[0:00] We'd like to call to order the Planning Commission meeting for the villager Beverly Hills for Wednesday, June 24th, 2026.

[0:07] But do we call roll please?

[0:09] Of course. Mr. Westreland.

[0:12] Here. Mr. Lord Russo. Mr. Copland.

[0:16] Mr. Erickson. Mr. Lucas.

[0:20] Mr. Harper. Mr. Trust.

[0:23] Here.

[0:23] Mr. Campbell.

[0:25] Perfect. We will call him.

[0:27] Thank you.

[0:27] And we have, I'm looking for a motion because we've seen, we've heard from both Rob and Elizabeth about a excuse, the absence.

[0:36] Absence, absences, absences, absences.

[0:37] She's speak today.

[0:39] We have a motion.

[0:39] So we're looking for a motion.

[0:41] I'll make a motion to excuse the absences of Ms. Erickson and Ms. Delard Russel.

[0:45] Yeah, second.

[0:47] Second.

[0:47] On the favor say aye.

[0:48] Aye.

[0:49] Opposed?

[0:49] Motion carries.

[0:50] Fantastic.

[0:52] We have a agenda in front of us.

[0:53] I'm looking for, for things in order and approval of the agenda as it's

[1:02] I have an option to have a second.

[1:05] All in favor say aye.

[1:07] Opposed.

[1:08] Motion carries.

[1:09] Minutes.

[1:10] We have minutes from the May 27th,

[1:14] 26th.

[1:15] Plank commission meeting.

[1:18] Before we make a motion.

[1:20] I had a couple items on here that I wanted to confer about the

[1:26] square footage of the sign or the scoreboard for Detroit country day.

[1:34] So the confirming with Susie, the original sign was 589 feet.

[1:47] So in the first paragraph,

[1:51] 589.5 square feet.

[1:55] So the reducing its size from 509 square point five square feet to 560. We confirmed that was correct.

[2:04] Yeah. And then that then that aligns with the motion then was for 560.09 square feet.

[2:12] So I'd like to make that as a correction.

[2:16] And if anybody else has any other corrections, please let me know.

[2:20] Or we can include that in a motion.

[2:28] I'm in the minutes, except the amended minutes with the 569 point, or 560 point nice,

[2:35] where a foot amendment proposed by the chair.

[2:42] The 580, I was a original.

[2:44] By the 89.

[2:50] And motion.

[2:52] Second.

[2:54] On the favor say aye.

[2:57] Those opposed.

[2:58] Motion carries.

[3:01] All right.

[3:01] You can move when you're right along.

[3:04] Public comments and the items that are not on the public agenda,

[3:06] by here from the public, which to be heard, seen none when we were right along. Old business,

[3:11] we have none. New business. Sign permit. My big fat Schwarma. Three one two four three,

[3:19] Southfield Road. Suzie.

[3:24] I'm actually going to let Brian take Brian. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[3:29] Yeah, we decided that I would take the easy ones from now on. Make sure Suzie handles all the

[3:33] difficult ones. Now, yeah, thank you. Well, what you have before you this evening is a proposed

[3:38] wall sign for a new business going in the market fresh plaza just a little bit east and north

[3:44] of us here. I do have a review letter prepared for you. It should be in your gender packets.

[3:48] Our copies were also passed out. In short, everything that I had to review it for based on your

[3:55] ordinance standards was compliant. The only item I was seeking additional information was the

[4:02] spacing between signs, so in your ordinance, you have a requirement on multi-tenant buildings

[4:08] that there are at least 20 feet between wall signs of different tenants.

[4:14] However, if that is not met, planning commission does have the discretion to reduce that

[4:19] standard in instances where it cannot be met.

[4:22] This plaza in particular, I can't recall a single sign in here that has not received the use

[4:30] discretion for spacing. So, so part of that is a question and part of that is a statement. So,

[4:35] what I was hoping for was the petitioner as part of their presentation tonight to be able to

[4:40] inform you what spacing is from either side, one to the north, one to the south, and if it is

[4:46] deficient of the 20-foot standard, then the commission would have the ability to still grant that

[4:52] if you so choose if it meets the 20-foot on either or both sides, then it's compliant and you don't

[4:58] I have to worry about it.

[5:01] Okay, really all I have, but I'm happy to take any questions.

[5:03] Sure, thank you.

[5:05] Applicant I presume is here where you come up and give us your name

[5:08] and provide us maybe some information on the spacing of the sign

[5:11] to the adjacent businesses.

[5:19] There's Jonathan Rawls from LeBanway, sign company,

[5:22] on behalf of Big Peshwarra.

[5:26] Going out there measuring what's existing between the signs.

[5:31] This is a very late last 11-17 page of the packet, essentially to the self of the proposed new sign here.

[5:40] It's going to be 17.5, linear feet, which is less than the 20 feet ordinance, and to the north of the sign is 15.5 feet.

[5:50] That's the proposed measurements, and you'll see that the existing measurements between the existing sign of some other tenants in the positive is 8.8.

[6:00] feet, and to the north, between the Canine Couture and the Bev Tap House, you got 22 and 24 feet.

[6:10] We did try some alternate designs and shapes and the way that there's a pole on the back wall that splits the property.

[6:21] If we were to make it smaller, and we'd have to fit that 20 feet, it would significantly push the sign to one side of the unit.

[6:29] property, and whereas they have that, the whole suite for each of the both window coverage,

[6:36] appears to be the best layout for what we can do with our logo.

[6:44] Good.

[6:44] Thank you.

[6:45] Thanks for doing that.

[6:49] Any questions for the petitioner of Ryan from the Commission?

[6:56] I will add that in, I know I don't know if everybody's been here, but we have gone through various sign applications

[7:03] and as Brian stated, we have, in the past, this commission has approved signings closest

[7:10] into one foot primarily because of the width of the tenant spaces, there are about

[7:16] 20 foot on center if I recall correctly, so it just they fall out. But in the past, the commission

[7:25] is looked at kind of the fact that they're centered on the least space.

[7:30] It seemed to make sense. So that's a little history over the commission has done in the past.

[7:39] And I appreciate Jonathan of providing some dimensions for clarity.

[8:10] Brian, I'm assuming that your hard copy information is consistent with what was written in the packet electronically.

[8:21] It should be, yeah, it did not change.

[8:23] Yeah, it was an update.

[8:25] That's an update.

[8:26] I just do a quick review of it, but yeah, it definitely looks to be.

[8:29] This is the same one.

[8:30] The numbers match that yeah, we're good, Jay.

[8:34] All right.

[8:39] Questions?

[8:40] Questions for anybody?

[8:41] Or am I being interested in emotion?

[8:50] I moved to approve the post sign ordinance with the sign dimensions,

[8:56] not being 20 or with the exception including the exception that the sign is not 20 feet on each

[9:03] or does not meet the 20 foot dimension on each side and approve the permit as submitted.

[9:13] I have a motion. Do I have a second?

[9:15] I'll second.

[9:21] I don't know, I do, I don't know, I don't favor here.

[9:23] I don't favor here.

[9:24] I post motion carries.

[9:27] Thank you very much.

[9:28] Good luck.

[9:28] Looking forward to some sandwiches.

[9:30] Thank you, guys.

[9:31] I had a great deal of one question.

[9:32] Yes.

[9:33] There are two questions.

[9:35] One.

[9:36] What are the opening?

[9:36] Yes, there was a thing that was one.

[9:38] Do you know?

[9:39] Okay, Sam.

[9:40] I feel like before Fourth of July.

[9:42] All right.

[9:43] Wow.

[9:44] Oh, man, you're going to be in Busters?

[9:47] You know, one thing we should have brought up is, so this is actually the current state of

[9:52] things.

[9:52] It's the big red shawl part, but the window signage does exceed that standard in the ordinance

[10:01] for Windowsign Courage.

[10:07] So, tomorrow I'll give you a minute.

[10:09] Yeah, the ordinance does allow windows signs.

[10:13] It is exempt.

[10:14] It does not need a permit, so you don't need a formal approval.

[10:16] but it is limited to the lesser of 10 square feet total or 25% of window areas.

[10:26] So we don't have action. We didn't get dimensions, but eyeballing it.

[10:30] I'm pretty sure there's more than 10 square feet of.

[10:33] With those numbers smaller of 10.

[10:34] The lesser of the two, yeah.

[10:37] So that will need to be reduced.

[10:39] And I apologize, Mr. Chair and Commission,

[10:40] because we just talked about it before the meeting,

[10:42] and I completely blanked on that one.

[10:44] So that would be something that you will need to bring that into compliance with your client.

[10:49] I'm going to make sure that they adjust that accordingly.

[10:52] So I haven't seen the final ones yet, but I believe it's just going to be a row of the yellow text on top.

[10:58] Well, the villager on the bulls, the massive salids, that.

[11:02] Something like that.

[11:04] Something very similar to just text across top windows as far as I know how to see the final argument.

[11:10] I'll bring it up to them and let them know.

[11:12] Excellent.

[11:13] So, who keep getting?

[11:15] Awesome.

[11:16] Thank you.

[11:16] I guess it was in being an enforcement officer.

[11:18] Issues that.

[11:19] And then also I assume this was temporary.

[11:22] Yeah.

[11:22] That's because it's coming soon.

[11:23] I wanted to make sure we brought it.

[11:25] I appreciate that.

[11:26] Thank you.

[11:29] All right.

[11:29] Thank you, brought that up, Susan.

[11:32] Okay.

[11:33] See, I can't even handle the simple ones.

[11:35] Brian.

[11:36] You're going to the bottom of the way.

[11:37] And you're not fired.

[11:39] I'm sorry.

[11:39] Thank you.

[11:43] Okay.

[11:43] I don't remember eight public comments seen that we had a link away from the public.

[11:49] We'll move on to Liaison comments in our Liaison's here.

[11:53] Mr. Gorman? Anything?

[12:05] Staff comments, Susie.

[12:07] You're welcome.

[12:09] So, as Mr. Gorman just mentioned, we are work go for a joint master plan kick off meeting

[12:17] with Village Council at our next meeting, July 22nd, so please join us.

[12:27] I think you said you're going to be traveling, unfortunately.

[12:30] I'll be here. Leave it to the next day.

[12:32] Yeah.

[12:33] All right. So much time.

[12:35] So exciting. That'll be our official kickoff to this.

[12:40] They already, the Giffleswebster, Joe and the team have already begun doing a review of the ordinance for that portion of it.

[12:51] I know they've already, you know, severely started diving into the documents that they're, that they're, that we're going to be updating.

[12:59] I have let them know that if they're going to have homework for you all to get it to me as soon as possible.

[13:05] But really, I guess I put your best creative thinking caps on and what you would like to see

[13:13] how you'd like the village to be.

[13:16] I've spent 15, 20 years into the future.

[13:19] Bring your best ideas.

[13:20] I have to bring bad ideas.

[13:22] Bring your ideas.

[13:26] There is a speaking of public meetings.

[13:29] We will also have a opening open house for the Beverly Road, Beverly Southfield Road intersection study.

[13:39] We did receive funding back at the end of 2020

[13:45] to conduct the study at that intersection.

[13:50] And how can we improve safety?

[13:53] Slow speeds down is our way we can improve ridership for the smart line that runs down Southfield Road.

[14:02] So the first part of the study, or at least the public engagement portion of the study, was an online survey, that was done at the beginning of the year.

[14:12] This is the second component of that study.

[14:19] So, open house on Tuesday, July 14th, from 6.30 to 8.

[14:28] There won't be a formal presentation, but we will have staff and consultants here with boards with the data that we've collected so far, as well as four different design concepts that they've put together.

[14:44] Really, I think you guys should have all received an email for me, maybe even two.

[14:49] I was having some technical difficulties, so if you got multiples for me, sorry.

[14:54] But please share widely with everyone you know in Beverly Hills or even...

[15:00] Travelers of Southfield Road in the intersection. We want to get a lot of feedback on these designs.

[15:09] And really the information we gather at the open house will be used to further refine the report that then goes to council and a formal presentation will be made to council that a date to be determined at this point.

[15:22] So, and we're really hoping to narrow down with the comments what will be our preferred alternative for the redesign of that intersection.

[15:36] So, road commission is where we've been keeping them well informed of the process and like what we've been talking about.

[15:43] And I think that there equally is interested to see what has been crafted thus far.

[15:51] So we've got some good buy-in from them, and let's say I think that may be it, but let's open up my reports.

[16:02] Big Fashmama, as you know, opening very, very soon.

[16:07] Oh, since we had some questions at the last meeting about some other goings on.

[16:11] So the Beverly Park place structure is underway that what was there is go along or there.

[16:16] Under construction, so it's approximately an eight-week timeline to get that all

[16:23] buttoned up. I know it's been alone a long time coming, but

[16:28] Should be really fantastic outcome when we're done. I've already started pestering the director

[16:34] Public works to

[16:37] And how we're gonna have a ribbon cutting if you will or an initial play. So we'll find more details on that one

[16:44] Paving work is expected on Pierce, Kirkshire, and Burwood for the duration of the summer.

[16:52] There's also going to be some additional sidewalk work that's going to be starting.

[16:58] Probably late until I really August, and that will also run through the remainder of the construction season.

[17:05] We're making a pretty good effort to keep that the construction page on a village's website up to date.

[17:10] So check that out.

[17:13] And then the other major project that's happening

[17:15] is actually not ours.

[17:17] And that is an closure.

[17:19] The repaying of 13 miles, a South field

[17:22] to evergreen that's a South field, a city of Southfield

[17:25] projects.

[17:27] So I know we've met with this week.

[17:32] I'm hoping that that means that Southfield

[17:34] is going to put some information on their website.

[17:37] And I do know that they're intending to send out physical

[17:42] maillers to the affected residents.

[17:45] I'm not entirely sure what their timeline is for that, but I would

[17:50] expect for that project to, again, last further remainder of the

[17:55] construction season.

[17:56] So that's, I think, is all that I have at this moment, please,

[18:00] like I said, sure, widely on that open house for us.

[18:05] Okay, great.

[18:06] Thank you.

[18:07] It brings us to commissioner comments.

[18:09] Charlie, would you?

[18:11] And how the dear thing go?

[18:13] So I was not present at that meeting.

[18:16] Apparently we had about 200, about 200 residents and other interested individuals show up.

[18:26] I believe that there's going to be at least some additional discussion at Council coming up.

[18:31] You know, there was some discussion at the last meeting, I didn't, yes, please.

[20:20] This is crazy.

[20:38] I have three funds in my back yard right now.

[20:40] We had one here, we had one here.

[20:42] I don't know if it was two mothers and one gave up the funds.

[20:54] I think

[20:58] it's just up.

[20:59] We went and picked in with

[21:21] more properties.

[21:23] We went with like permitting, we were going to collect.

[21:25] We had a few hundreds of properties during the year season.

[21:30] I've got a day in our

[21:34] name.

[21:35] Yeah.

[21:35] Two days.

[21:35] I think we used to go to police and we wanted to start shooting.

[21:39] We didn't hire them.

[21:40] They came in and they joined us out to the way they were last year.

[21:43] It's a couple of years ago that there's a lot of danger in communities.

[21:49] So, the most rational place is to use a guy in the winter.

[21:53] They do make them, they make them here, so they come, so it's

[22:00] hopefully something like

[22:01] double sevens that we

[22:28] need to be on top of it, understand what we're saying.

[25:04] Mr. Garden and then the next day of disappears

[25:20] weren't my eye at that, everybody for a long time. They weren't affected in this year.

[25:25] Am I everybody's affected?

[26:00] That's what I found as my house as well as that. It seems like they come back here after a year now, and they feel it's a safe place to birth and then have fun.

[26:10] And now they're always in my yard.

[26:12] And I'm in the middle of this subdivision, right?

[26:14] It's just a small, do some chasing,

[26:50] I think that was Charlie?

[26:52] Here,

[26:58] we used it to me.

[26:59] I do have, I don't know if anybody had seen the news item this past week and about

[27:04] Birmingham.

[27:05] That's the party.

[27:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[27:07] So I know that, you know, that was just different taken again.

[27:12] You know, that's our kind of, you know, our goal on our side is we've got to

[27:17] think about the unknowns, and I never imagined that renting a pool was a potential revenue source

[27:25] for somebody, but, you know, just to think about it, and I did, I was looking for a place

[27:31] to meet up with some friends, a local establishment, I stumbled across somebody who rents

[27:37] out their backyard as a bar area. So, and that was over, and I think I live on your plymet.

[27:43] And it was just these kind of things and then I saw the story about the pool that people are being

[27:48] creative and how to maybe provide some income at their property.

[27:55] So just we have to, you know, we kind of fall into the things that we do and what we're accustomed

[28:00] to and what we really need to challenge ourselves to think outside of the box and what those potentials

[28:04] might be out there.

[28:10] theoretically. You know right and I we've talked about this the guest that I can see. I know

[28:16] I don't know what I'm trying to do with you. I don't know what I'm doing today's feeds on. Um, you know

[28:21] after talking with the ego council we've taken the stance that short terminals are not permitted within

[28:29] the existing zoning right you can't use your you can't use homes in the residential districts

[28:36] as a commercial artist, right?

[28:40] I'm using it as something other than a single-family poem,

[28:44] which is essentially when you're renting it as a short-term rental,

[28:48] you're not really using it as a home-reusing

[28:50] and as more of like a hotel motel kind of stay.

[28:55] And so after consulting with legal, you know,

[28:58] she felt it was, we were within our rights, I guess,

[29:04] to not allow short-term rentals, so we've already actually sent out

[29:08] communications several months ago, saying, hey, now get off to the short-term

[29:13] rentals that have been known to us. That seems to have stopped. Did that stop?

[29:24] Good.

[29:28] So that's, I mean, I think that as we go forward with the zoning

[29:33] amendments and updates that we're going to do. I mean, there's an opportunity, obviously, for us

[29:38] to strengthen what we have, make it abundantly clear that's a no-go. Cover ourselves for these very

[29:46] weird, odd circumstances of renting your pool, renting your backyard. I mean, we're not going

[29:51] to be able to capture all of those things, but I think paths on the right track when he says

[29:57] we have to think out of the box for these things.

[29:58] so

[30:00] We can certainly reconvene the short term rental subcommittee. We want it. It'll currently know if we need to

[30:10] based on the kind of activities that we're seeing or not, but I'm not opposed to it. If that's

[30:17] like to see it, you know, like to see that happen.

[30:54] All right.

[30:55] So not like a long term, like, because that was the, there's,

[31:01] basically 31 day threshold, right?

[31:21] I think everything else, right?

[31:22] It's the bad apples, then.

[31:24] Yeah.

[31:26] Destroyed.

[31:26] Yeah.

[31:27] Destroyed the harvest.

[31:28] One thing that's best to do is,

[31:30] I haven't even been able to, you know, be able to

[31:41] buy a set of house for themselves and call me back in the rest of the year.

[31:51] I'm just leaving the whole thing to

[31:58] do.

[31:58] When I think that, at least, you know, because we talk a little bit internally about, like, what would we do?

[32:05] This way, I had fun in Beverly Hills. I think we still would have considered this a short-term rental

[32:11] as because it's still that commercial activity.

[32:21] like renting your pool, like renting your, like what they did in Birmingham, renting your pool as a commercial activity.

[32:30] Right, like that to me is still a short term.

[32:32] Is it, like I said, is there maybe areas that we can, can,

[32:37] should strengthen our audience language? Absolutely.

[32:41] But I would still have interpreted that kind of instance to be a short term rental.

[33:10] I'm looking forward to the joint meeting, talk about the master plan, I'm going to take up

[33:16] the Jeff head provide its main information that was in our minutes from last month about

[33:20] document commissioner.

[33:23] So just trying to get prepared for that discussion.

[33:27] Um, with that, I would look for a, oh, any correspondences.

[33:35] Um, no, we have, although we have, then our, our, our initials are saying that we are

[33:40] attending the plan.

[33:43] So, we're on our way to being official and special.

[33:46] Fantastic.

[33:47] All right.

[33:47] Then I look for a motion to adjourn.

[33:50] Motion to adjourn.

[33:51] Second.

[33:52] Second.

[33:52] On favor?

[33:53] Hi.

[33:54] I'm opposed.

[33:55] We'll see you in the next video.

Village of Beverly Hills Planning Commission Meeting June 24, 2026

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