[0:18] That's a thumbs up. All right, proceeding. Good evening, everyone. We

[0:23] are here for our first of two budget hearings uh to pass the 2627 fiscal

[0:30] budget. So, we'll call to order the first meeting. I see 6:03 p.m. on

[0:35] September 8, 20, 2026. Uh, madame clerk, would you please call the role for us?

[0:40] » Mayor Grove >> here.

[0:41] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez here. >> Commissioner Ansler, Commissioner

[0:45] Hunington here. >> Commissioner Sam

[0:47] » here. >> Mr. Mayor, you have a quum.

[0:49] » Thank you, Madam Clerk. Let's do the pledge of allegiance, please.

[1:09] All right. With this chair

[1:14] here,

[1:17] your budget for new chairs, Mr. Manager. I'm just kidding. Okay. So, let's uh go

[1:22] ahead and move into our public comment. We will start with public comment folks

[1:25] here in the log cabin and then we'll move on to Zoom. Uh just as a reminder,

[1:30] public comment is uh three minutes per speaker and please provide us with your

[1:32] name and address. Thank you very much.

[1:37] » I hate being short. Jamie Anderson, 11905 Northeast 11th place. I came

[1:43] tonight fully expecting to have to pitch the 300,000 for the rec center uh

[1:48] playground equipment and then I looked at the budget. I am so glad to see that

[1:56] in there. I mean, as few amenities as we have, you have one that is so well used,

[2:01] such a focal point for the community to have thought that it would have to be

[2:05] shut down when you had a shovel ready project and you knew where the monies

[2:10] were from. Yes, it would have been wonderful if we got the allocation.

[2:13] Well, life happens. Anyway, I hope that stays in there and I hope we see that

[2:17] new equipment soon. Thanks.

[2:22] » Thank you. Any others? Going once, going twice, up

[2:26] to Zoom. Do we have any on Zoom? Any with Madam Clerk? See none. See none.

[2:31] Okay. All right. Very good. So, we'll go ahead and close public comment at this

[2:34] time. Uh, any commission reply to public comment before we move on?

[2:39] None. Hearing none. Okay. All right. Very good. So, uh, let's go ahead and

[2:44] move into our ordinances as our resolutions are empty for this evening.

[2:47] So, uh, John, just as a point of order, uh, as a reminder for myself, I think I

[2:51] ask this every year. We the first we will we will do the the we'll open the

[2:58] first ordinance item t did you expect that I was going to ask this question?

[3:03] Yeah. Okay. So then yes one of you >> under applicable Florida law um you must

[3:10] adopt the millage rate first before you can adopt your final budget. However, as

[3:17] part of the mandatory consideration for your millage rate is the budget. You

[3:23] know, without talking about the budget, how do you decide how you're eventually

[3:27] going to get to your millage rate? Unless, you know, you're you're pretty

[3:31] um as a group, you're pretty much okay with your uh with the budget as it is

[3:37] being proposed that translates into your existing millillage. Yes, the first

[3:42] order of business is to take up the millillage. Um so what a lot of

[3:46] jurisdictions do and what this uh village has historically done is you

[3:50] will read into um the record the ordinance for uh the final millillage uh

[3:56] on first reading um t talk about it um table it then read into the record the

[4:06] title of the ordinance uh on first reading adopting the final budget

[4:11] discuss the budget and how it impacts the millage rate. If there's anything

[4:15] that you may end up uh modifying in the budget that would then again affect that

[4:20] millage rate, uh table the ordinance uh uh for the adoption of the final

[4:27] ordinance, I mean, sorry, the final budget

[4:29] » back to >> and then go back and and uh take up and

[4:32] and uh vote on first reading of the millillage ordinance and then

[4:38] » then go back to Got it. Okay, I I remember. Thank you, John. One

[4:42] additional uh item uh recent adoption of state statute by

[4:50] the Florida legislature because you are proposing a uh increase in your

[4:55] millillage uh above roll back rate there. It would have to be adopted by a

[4:59] four fifths um uh >> right

[5:03] » oops >> right

[5:05] » you don't need a a 40 because you're not going above the 110% staying below it.

[5:11] So you need that purpose vote adopt both uh items.

[5:17] » Understood. All right, John. Thank you very much. So in that case, John, would

[5:20] you please read the or the first ordinance uh on the record for us?

[5:23] » Yes, sir. The first ordinance is ordinance number 2026-05

[5:27] entitled an ordinance to the village commission of the village of Biscane

[5:30] Park, Florida, establishing and adopting a final final millage rate and levy of

[5:34] advorum taxes for fiscal year 2026 2027 in the amount of 9.2 two mills for each

[5:40] $1,000 of assessed valuation upon real and personal property within the village

[5:45] limits of the village of Biscane Park which is 5.97%

[5:49] higher than the roll back rate of 8.6820 mills providing for an effective date.

[5:55] » Okay, thanks John. Do I have a motion and a second to move the ordinance into

[5:58] discussion? Yeah, I I make a motion to approve the orders 20265

[6:03] adopted final merit rate 2026 27 first reading.

[6:09] » Can I make an um I'm sorry an intervening motion to table it so we can

[6:14] move into discussion for the budget first.

[6:16] » Well, so

[6:21] » is that >> that's what I meant to table it so that

[6:23] we can >> we don't we motion do we have to approve

[6:25] it before we table it? No, you >> Okay. So, we can motion to table it

[6:29] » discussion and you can take the public comment on the

[6:32] » Well, that's what I was I was just going to get to the public comment portion of

[6:34] it. Yeah. >> Okay, cool. Got it. All right. Thank

[6:36] you. So, we had a motion on the floor for to approve the ordinance or move to

[6:40] discussion. Is there a second? >> Second.

[6:41] » Okay. Uh is there any public comment on the ordinance before we discuss and or

[6:46] table here or in Zoom? Going once, going

[6:50] twice. Seeing none. Okay. Now, I think now I think you're good. Sure.

[6:59] » Make a motion to table ordinance 202605 adopt by Mr.

[7:05] » Second. >> Okay. All in favor of tableabling the

[7:07] ordinance to move on to the second ordinance.

[7:08] » I >> I Okay, great. All right. So, John,

[7:12] would you please read the second ordinance for us?

[7:15] The second ordinance uh is ordinance number 2026

[7:20] on first reading entitled an ordinance the village commission of the village of

[7:22] Miscane Park Florida adopting a budget for fiscal year 2026 2027 for the

[7:28] village of Main Park Florida providing for conflict scrimmers errors

[7:31] severability and providing for an effective date.

[7:33] » John thank you. Do I have a motion and a second to approve the ordinance?

[7:37] » I make a motion to approve ordinance adopting FY 2627 final budget meeting.

[7:43] Second. >> Okay. Is there any public comment on

[7:46] this ordinance either here or on Zoom? Going once, going twice, hearing none.

[7:51] Okay. So, uh we'll talk about the second ordinance first before we move back in.

[7:56] Um so, uh Mr. Manager, before we move into it, and Paul, I don't know if you

[8:00] have any anything to add on it, but are there any changes? Uh you handed out um

[8:06] uh the summary beforehand. >> Um Mr. Mayor, if I could. Sure. So, um,

[8:13] just to give you a brief introduction and then I'll turn it over to Paul and

[8:17] he'll he'll talk about both ordinances tonight. You're you're going to make two

[8:21] decisions. What our millage rate should be and then the first reading our of our

[8:26] budget. So, uh, we're asking you to set the millage of 9.2.

[8:31] Uh, we have consistently lowered the millillage each year. We're lowering it

[8:35] this year from 9.3 to 9.2. That's our suggestion. Also they um are we're

[8:43] asking we had two budget workshops already. Each department made a

[8:47] presentation of their budget. During those two uh two days of uh budget

[8:53] workshops each of the directors came forward uh presented their budgets. Uh

[8:58] you had back back and forth questions. Um and as a result uh if you look at the

[9:06] budget summary I know it's it's very small to look at but on the screen if

[9:10] you look at it so in 20 20 uh 2021 uh the uh the village uh had in in

[9:21] revenues we had an increase from 2020 2022 to 2027 we had an increase in

[9:28] revenues of of approximately 1 million $570,296

[9:34] increase in revenue. And in the expan expenditures,

[9:39] uh actually uh there's a difference in 2022 to 2027 and expenditure is a

[9:45] difference of 1,24,669

[9:50] uh from 2022 to 2027. So there's a we're we're actually going to have a

[9:57] surplus next year of $59,661

[10:02] as the uh uh difference. Now Paul's going to talk to you a little bit about

[10:07] our where we are with our reserves now u and our emergency reserves and also on

[10:14] our our um operating reserves and what our recommendations for those two uh

[10:20] reserves are. But financially, I think you're really in a good shape and for I

[10:27] haven't in and the village I haven't seen this in a in a a long time and I

[10:32] think it's a a testament to this board and what your um your direction has been

[10:39] to to the administration and keeping our our our budget down. So with that, I'll

[10:44] turn it over to Paul to make a a brief introduction, a brief presentation about

[10:50] both the uh illustrate in our first reading of the budget.

[10:54] » Thanks, Al. >> You're up, Paul.

[10:57] » Thank you. Yeah, these uh these sheets go a little

[11:01] small uh when you try to put a lot of information and you may remember the uh

[11:06] state changed the law where you have to have uh 5 years comparative budget up

[11:11] there at all times. So, that's one of the reasons why the the budget looks the

[11:14] way it does is because of the statute uh that they they added. Uh so like the

[11:20] village manager said uh this is again and I I hate to be so positive because

[11:25] nobody believes me but uh this is an exceptional uh beginning of a year end

[11:29] of a year uh type of budget meeting. Uh, all good news. When if you can see on

[11:35] the the chart that's on the screen now, if you go to the projected endofear

[11:40] balance, I believe it should be right right around 1.3 million, and that's

[11:44] expecting about $230,000 for the next uh two months of bill paying. Uh that

[11:51] that's a little complicated, but it's a very large uh balance, and it has to do

[11:56] with a lot of funds uh through your CIP, through everything. But the point is

[12:01] that that's really money that you have available to you to transfer into the

[12:06] future. Moving over the 2027 budget that the manager has and his staff have

[12:12] developed for you. Uh it has a built-in $500,000 surplus.

[12:18] Again, those are very positive things. The the basic, you've heard me say this

[12:23] and I say it every time, the service level for the village has not been

[12:27] impacted. yet you're able to produce this budget with with a substantial

[12:32] surplus. And because of that and and dialogues we've with staff, we brought

[12:38] back to you a 9.2 based millage budget, not the 93 that we had worked through

[12:45] because it was very obvious that that was, you know, $40,000

[12:49] difference. It it just it would we we understood and and the manager directed

[12:54] us that uh is very likely you would want to lower the the rate. We're prepared to

[13:01] go back to the 93 which is your maximum that you can consider tonight. Uh but

[13:05] the 92 still produces uh excellent uh surplus. With that surplus

[13:12] uh and no changes to the service level, everything that you've spent during the

[13:16] workshops is is intact. uh our one of our most prominent residents that comes

[13:22] to all of our budget meetings made a comment uh that she was very happy that

[13:26] the playground made it in there. I had no doubts that that was the direction

[13:30] either. So I I don't know if people were other people were worried about it, but

[13:35] the good news is it it is in your CIP. This is a tricky picture to give you,

[13:41] but I so I'm keeping it simple. Just saying, look, you're you're rolling over

[13:45] over a million dollars like we talked about into your reserve components.

[13:50] You're keeping your CIP money uh that wasn't spent, moving that over. You're

[13:55] you're adding 300,000 to it. I will note that it's a little confusing because we

[14:00] only spent 300,000 and that's no one's fault and we added in 300. So, it's it

[14:06] looks like the same number, but it is not. We did expend uh we expect to

[14:11] expend a total of about 300,000 this fiscal year, and that's not unusual with

[14:15] a CIP budget. And you can see the roofs going on. You can see the other projects

[14:19] are moving, but the payments lag quite a bit behind um contractually. So, with

[14:24] that said, uh I don't have a component of your financial condition uh to

[14:31] complain about or criticize or to beg for. Uh, so I'm going to be very boring

[14:36] in my my presentation. Uh, and that's good news. The the the last piece of the

[14:41] puzzle for you uh today is to determine how you want to handle the the reserves.

[14:47] Uh, no matter what millage rate you pick, you're going to have a little over

[14:51] $5 million uh to to allocate at your discretion. Historically, you've been

[14:58] looking at a 7030 splits uh 7525. you've had kind of that range 30% being in an

[15:05] unassigned reserves meaning money that the manager

[15:09] could come back to you and say hey we need to buy this here's where I want

[15:13] it's not in the budget this is where we're taking it from and that's it's

[15:16] like excuse the term it's a very large contingency basically uh for e not not

[15:23] emergencies but more urgent unexpected expenses emergencies are defined in your

[15:28] emergency reserve uh ordinance I believe It's an ordinance and in that ordinance

[15:34] it identifies the emergencies that would qualify using it. So there's there's

[15:38] really not a lot of risk in loading up your emergency reserves. The the optics

[15:43] of it are fantastic. Uh should you be in the

[15:47] bonding world one day, these are the financial numbers that you're going to

[15:51] require to get a good bond rating and and to be successful with a low interest

[15:56] rate. That's what a bond rating does for you. It keeps your cost down. So, all

[15:59] that said, uh I think in a in consultation with the manager that

[16:04] there's a really nice number sitting in front of you uh that looks would look

[16:09] fantastic and be very healthy of of putting your emergency reserves at a $5

[16:13] million even and let the b the balance fall uh it's about $540,000 would fall

[16:20] into your unassigned reserves. Here's why. Your budget is proposed with a

[16:25] surplus of about 500,000. So that's going to be barring any operational

[16:31] changes that come to light through the year, you're going to have a million

[16:34] dollars to at your discretion through the manager to to handle. And that's

[16:38] that's kind of what I talked about the last meeting or at the last workshop.

[16:42] That that's a very healthy number for this village. It's it's uh it's 20 Yeah,

[16:47] it's 20% of your operating budget ready cash. That's excellent. and and the the

[16:53] optics and the the philosophy, if you will, of having a an emergency reserve

[16:59] of 5 million uh has tangible benefits. Uh all of the money will be all of your

[17:05] extra cash uh is always in a in the highest interest earning account that we

[17:10] that we're allowed to use. You have two options now. One that have been

[17:14] authorized. One of them is the state board account which is traditionally

[17:17] what everyone uses be but because of the economy uh in saving or the rates are

[17:24] high enough now that the banks are offering a qualified government savings

[17:29] account which you opened up and have been operating in for four or five

[17:33] months. I believe you authorized that at a meeting earlier this year. So all that

[17:37] said I I think the picture is pretty clear to you. Uh 9.2 to millillage is

[17:44] what I'm anticipating and I'm also anticipating the uh split be 5 million

[17:50] in the balance uh between emergency reserves and unassigned and uh you know

[17:55] the balloon should fall right now and the band should start playing when when

[17:59] you get to give a speech like that in this business. So thank you for for

[18:03] working together. No balloons. I get it.

[18:07] » Sorry, didn't anticipate it. It's not Paul. Thank you very much. Um, are there

[18:12] any questions for for Paul uh on the presentation you just provided to us?

[18:17] » No, I just wanted to thank you for what you did on the budget. It was pretty

[18:20] good. You know, with the work that you did, I'm very satisfied with it.

[18:24] » The the duck in the pond understand duck in the pond analogy. We we look calm on

[18:29] the surface, but we're kicking like hell underneath the water. And so staff has

[18:34] really worked hard. The manager's expertise is shining thankfully for all

[18:38] of us. And you got what you need. You got what? This this village is is

[18:43] clicking the way it should be. >> Thank you.

[18:47] » I would ask one question, Paul. This handout we got this is the 9. This would

[18:52] represent 9.2. >> That's the 92. I apologize. There's a

[18:55] there's the 93 lingering in the title was not edited. That's some my

[18:59] accountants are the best in the world, but they don't look at that line uh in a

[19:03] when I ask them to send me something in in 10 minutes, that kind of thing. So,

[19:07] my apologies, but yeah, that's the 92. I checked it.

[19:09] » That's what I figured. I just wanted to clarify that.

[19:11] » I already sent them a note that by the way, when the budget's finished, fix

[19:14] that.

[19:17] » This way. >> Yeah, it probably could have been

[19:20] printed. >> I think if we would put it this way,

[19:22] you'll be able to see it much better. >> Yeah, in in landscape would have been a

[19:25] little better. Uh I just turned my phone to the side so I can see it.

[19:32] » So, but where's the difference coming from from the 9.2 to 9.3? So, as you as

[19:38] you go down to the bottom three or four lines on that sheet, you'll see the uh

[19:44] excess, which shows excess uh there's that's

[19:50] where it comes from. So, you had a surplus in your budget and the 9 the

[19:54] only difference is the 92 and the 93 there's about $44,000 difference between

[19:58] them in the surplus. So, you just subtract it from there.

[20:03] So that's this is not in the agenda. The woodwork the 9.2.

[20:07] » No, that was emailed out prior.

[20:14] » I don't know if your mic's on, Commissioner. I'm having

[20:16] » It's on. Sorry, it's better far away. >> Um,

[20:21] » which one is this again? If I wanted to pick up,

[20:24] » that one is not labeled, but it is the 92. The one today's handout at

[20:28] » No, but I'm saying from the agenda. If I wanted to pick

[20:30] » one of the agendas 93 >> and what's the name of it? Is it a

[20:34] summary budget summary? >> Yes, that's the summary schedule.

[20:38] » Thank you. >> Which is helpful because of the bottom

[20:41] right corner gives you what you're dealing with.

[20:45] » Okay, I see it. So instead of the 558 550 on excess, you have um 509.

[20:56] » Correct. >> 66.

[20:57] » Yeah. So about 50,000. And which item, which line is being touched to get here?

[21:03] » That excess line. That's the only one. >> Okay. So, you're basically

[21:09] » the budget's unchanged. Just the surplus that you have at your discretion as I

[21:14] was >> go into that saving.

[21:16] » So, then you have a choice of how much of that you keep in an unassigned

[21:20] category, which means it's not budgeted for anything, but it's readily available

[21:23] without restrictions. >> Yeah. Then what you put into the

[21:27] emergency roof emergency fund has restrictions.

[21:31] » Yeah. >> As you've adopted.

[21:33] » Yeah. >> And staff's recommending that you take

[21:38] that allocation as 5 million and the balance

[21:41] » respective. Say it again. >> That you take that those allocations as

[21:44] 5 million in emergency reserve and the balance in an unassigned C category.

[21:51] » What percentage did we do last year? I believe it was 7030.

[21:58] » You can see on the bottom >> like third or fourth column. Yeah,

[22:02] » you'll see the two numbers there that >> those are the that's the balance. I

[22:08] don't have the math right in front of me. And it changes a little bit because

[22:12] as we actually finish the year, there's a new number. It it's never to the

[22:16] penny. It can't be. We're projecting. Uh, so we force that percentage that's

[22:22] in your ordinance or that when you adopt your final budget ordinance, you force

[22:25] that percentage and that's what we will fit it to. You could this year if you

[22:30] wanted to say like I said it in the resolution or the ordinance, excuse me,

[22:35] 5 million in emergency reserve and the balance in unassigned that we would

[22:39] accomplish that exactly that way. If you say percentage, we'll do a percentage.

[22:45] But I I like the this the optics of the clean five.

[22:52] » Okay, great. >> A lot easier to remember, too.

[22:56] » Certainly. Uh so I guess then uh really what's being proposed in front of

[23:02] us is is what Paul's saying and what the manager is proposing. if we want to uh

[23:06] if we want to put the 5 million into the emergency and put the rem the remainder

[23:10] into the unassigned um I guess outside of I mean outside of you know wholesale

[23:15] changes to the budget that we have in front of us uh which I I don't

[23:19] necessarily think we we we're dealing with this evening I think that's kind of

[23:23] the critical decision if that this commission uh should be making right

[23:26] now. >> Correct. In the in the net effect, if if

[23:29] should you have an item that you decide to change between now and final reading,

[23:33] it would just subtract the allocation to unassigned.

[23:36] » Right. Right. Of course. And remind me the what's the approximate number of

[23:41] that would be a >> little over 500 560,000.

[23:44] » Okay. Got it. >> Okay. Um if there's uh if there's no

[23:48] other questions from the commission, uh >> question.

[23:51] » Oh, sorry, >> Paul. This unassigned versus assigned,

[23:55] we set that every year. So it's a pot of 5 million in excess. If we say we're

[23:59] overzealous this year and we put 5 million flat and next year we decide

[24:03] there's going to be a big expenditure, do we reset?

[24:05] » You can adjust it each year. Yes. >> So it's lock it's only locked in

[24:08] reserves for one fiscal annually. Correct.

[24:10] » And then so if we if we're overzealous this year, we could always re come back

[24:15] next year. And that was a very conscious strategy

[24:19] of this commission to to not have a handcuff uh especially in the nature of

[24:24] this village where you had lots of construction projects aspirationally set

[24:30] a set set in front of you. You have lots of grants that come or go. You know, you

[24:34] had a lot of moving parts where and you you don't have $80 million in reserves.

[24:38] So, that was a very agile uh intentional thing to do and and I I wouldn't change

[24:44] it either. I I like that it gives you that annual uh element. It gives you the

[24:49] restriction of what's in the emergency ordinance, which is decent. You know,

[24:53] it's you picked it. Uh but you the the flip of it is your operating budget is

[25:00] not very agile because if you had to move a sign and you're not it's a small

[25:05] budget so it's not likely, but if you had to move significant money from admin

[25:08] to public works or vice versa, that's an ordinance. And so that's less, you know,

[25:15] agility and flexibility. So your flexibility really lies in having an

[25:20] unassigned category at the bottom of your budget. It's just how you're

[25:24] structured. And it makes sense. You you have a lot of pieces. And your CIP kind

[25:27] of picked a lot of that up also historically that that's gotten a lot

[25:32] cleaner and clearer to present that. Okay, we have, you know, you're telling

[25:36] everybody what your projects are in the CIP. You're not telling it because you

[25:41] don't know what they are in the unassigned and that's healthy. I like I

[25:45] like that approach that has all the parameters. It's got good separation of

[25:49] context in terms of use of funds. So that it it this all this this checks

[25:54] every box in the finance director world. >> Very good. Thank you very much, Paul.

[26:00] » Uh all right. So if there are uh no additional questions on uh this part of

[26:04] the ordinance at this time, now we move to table this one. Sean, sorry. You're

[26:09] going to butt in and stop me. >> No, actually.

[26:11] » Okay. >> The only the the significance of the

[26:14] discussion that that just took place is with regard to uh or how it impacts and

[26:20] and is in section three of the ordinance adopting the final budget. Uh

[26:25] historically or certainly last year, you specifically put forward

[26:29] » percentages of of the the percentage, right? So, you know, we just need to

[26:34] know between, you know, first and second reading um whether or not that

[26:40] percentage changes or if you're going to stay at the 70%

[26:44] um for purposes of of making sure that the uh ordinance properly reflects your

[26:50] decision moving forward. So then so based on the recommendation then

[26:53] wouldn't we be amending that language if we if we are adopting what Paul and the

[26:58] manager are presenting to us. Wouldn't we be amending that language to say 5

[27:00] million into emergency and remainder into unassigned?

[27:05] » It's in the ordinance it's set forth in in a percentage number.

[27:09] » Okay. So you can just give us the percentage.

[27:11] » I'll work backwards for the percentage. Yeah.

[27:13] » Okay. >> Okay. I was going to suggest I feel more

[27:16] comfortable with just moving along how we've been sustained a year over year

[27:20] because then whoever comes next can have the history as to why we've done it and

[27:25] I think that would keep it clean. That's my preference.

[27:28] » That sounds good. >> Very good. I

[27:30] » have questions. So are we are we done? Are you planning to jump into the next

[27:33] ordinance for approval? Is that the plan or

[27:36] » So if there's visiting >> Well, if there's no other questions on

[27:38] this one, then we would table this one. We go back to the first one for 92.

[27:41] » Okay. So, I do have questions on the CIP if we can um open that one. So, last

[27:47] budget workshop we talked about putting money into the CIP for the

[27:53] » renovation,000 for the playground. Correct.

[27:56] » So, that we're basically dipping into our pockets and taking out 300,000 to

[28:01] use for this. Is that my correct reading?

[28:04] » Uh in a in a manner absolutely. uh you're using unassigned funds, you know,

[28:10] whether they were prior year or this year or current, you know, what it

[28:13] doesn't matter. Yes, you're moving that in, but you also expended about the same

[28:18] amount of the CIP. So, you're you're basically reallocating the same level of

[28:23] investment in your CIP consecutive years. That's one way to put

[28:28] to look at it. And then if I go into the specific projects, I want to look into

[28:34] page number four of the budget. There is a line

[28:39] items of capital improvement plans. So the comparison is FY26 and then 20 uh

[28:46] 2027. So I I want to understand I uh the comparison. So, for example, the log

[28:51] cabin roof ADA has FY2026 $78,000 and it's proposed at $70,000.

[29:01] What What does that mean? Do we need double the investment? What What are we

[29:05] repeating this?

[29:09] » I wouldn't be able to speak to how the budget allocation went like what how the

[29:13] expenses are going. Maybe the manager knows off the top. I don't So again, I'm

[29:17] comparing FY2026 to FY 2027 for capital improvement plan.

[29:23] » Some of some of those expenses we've already um we've already made in this

[29:28] fiscal year. >> No. So that's not what I asked. So

[29:32] adopted budget fiscal year 2026 for the log cabin. We had assigned $78,000. That

[29:40] project is ongoing and ready to go. Right.

[29:42] » Yeah. that you have not financially been hit with all

[29:45] » I got a quick look at it off the commissioner's tablet and and you've

[29:49] only spent 5,000. >> Yes.

[29:51] » So the rollover to be exact could have been maybe a thousand or so more.

[29:56] » So it's just the difference between what's already hit the the accounting

[30:00] system versus what's projected to be spent on the project. Okay,

[30:05] » got it. So for example, the log cabin lightning here was $9,000.

[30:12] so far spent. It was approved $50,000 in 2026,

[30:17] » right? >> The difference will be $41,000, but we

[30:21] have $50,000 allocated for 2027, >> right?

[30:25] » So why are we having more? This is a question for the manager then.

[30:31] » Yeah, I wouldn't know without looking. >> I didn't I didn't get that. Commission,

[30:37] » is there a way you can uh put on screen the budget so we can all be looking at

[30:41] the same stuff? >> That's the IP PDF.

[30:44] » I'm looking at the it's called the capital project Fund FY27. That's the

[30:50] the agenda today. >> Okay. So, what was your question again,

[30:54] Commissioner? >> So, if you go to page four, you're going

[30:56] to see there's three columns. Year to date, which is what we've spent on that

[31:01] project. Then you have fiscal year 2026 which is what we've approved and then

[31:08] proposed is fiscal year 2027. So if we are we had already approved for

[31:16] this fiscal 50 grand for the cabin lighting why are we proposing what looks

[31:23] to be additional 50 here you understand what I'm saying anybody

[31:27] » not yet I I >> okay just I'll take

[31:31] we go I'm good yeah >> because I think the the rest applies to

[31:36] all of them um to your point I think it's more what has hit the books versus

[31:42] uh what hasn't. But it looks like it's a duplicate. Like we haven't done

[31:46] anything.

[31:49] » And you're on the lighting. Yeah. So you have a 50,000. So

[31:54] the allocation isn't as critical as the total amount.

[31:59] » Okay. >> You follow me?

[32:00] » Right. Yes. >> So you're asking 30 grand extra to put

[32:04] into this project somehow. >> Not necessarily. uh the the allocations

[32:09] can will change as the bills start coming in and the accounting person who

[32:15] would pick the amount of money just smoothed it out a little bit because the

[32:20] invoicing isn't really clear when we get it. So the at the the point of it is

[32:24] that it doesn't matter as much as we're not saying we're shorting or or giving

[32:28] more money to one of these line items. It's the total amount of money that will

[32:32] be move that will move over into CIP. >> No, that's what I'm saying. So you 30

[32:37] about 30. >> It's not a smooth It's not an exact

[32:39] number if that makes sense. In the invoicing how much of it was designed,

[32:43] how much of it is pre-order? We didn't pull it apart.

[32:48] » Okay. My my bottom line was that we're asking 20 for 2027. You're asking

[32:54] $30,000 extra based on the just the bottom line more or less. that that that

[32:59] 30,000 the only re the only difference in that is how much of an invoice was

[33:05] paid or not paid. So it's it's slightly higher. Yeah. I think the playground

[33:10] might have been was only 300.

[33:15] I don't I don't think we're actually asking for 30,000 more. Um I think the

[33:20] projects got became more clear if that makes sense. it. I guess on paper it's

[33:25] 30,000 more compared to prior year, but it has to do with how much was spent.

[33:28] » That helps with my second question, which is we've we've talked about all

[33:32] these projects besides the um the rec center uh specifically. So, Issa, I know

[33:38] it's ready to go. For what I've heard, it's like ready to go into um bidding

[33:43] process, right? The the whole park. What are we getting for 330?

[33:48] What's the village going to get? What's the what's included in there?

[33:53] commission. We'll we'll get you that information between first and second

[33:57] read. >> Okay, great. So because I think that was

[34:00] going to be the key question for me is like either we're increasing the total

[34:04] amount on capital improvement plan year on top of the 300 that we were

[34:08] allocating and then the commitment of what are we telling people that next

[34:12] year is going to happen in the rec center and I'm curious what about so but

[34:17] I'm okay with having that information again my two questions isa are going to

[34:21] be what are we buying and are we going to do them next year so because we know

[34:26] it didn't happen this year we didn't get the funing ing, you know, for it. We're

[34:30] pulling out from the pocket. We're going to make this happen. What are we

[34:33] promising? I'm not clear on that. Um, so hopefully for the second approval, we're

[34:39] good. Um, and then yeah, I guess just fine-tuning what that means on the

[34:44] bottom line. Yeah, I I we'll give you a a breakdown as when we pull together

[34:49] everything, but there's there's more information moving around because when

[34:53] you get the first bill for design, for instance, if you look the second to last

[34:57] line on there, the project support management, that shows all of the funds

[35:02] were spent and there's nothing budgeted for the rest of it. That isn't actually

[35:07] accurate because there's a percentage of the project management spent each time.

[35:10] So that to to divide that up to to anyone's like to a pure satisfaction is

[35:16] to take six projects and make them agree. It's not going to happen uh

[35:20] easily. The it's really the bottom line. Uh so you added $300,000 to this but you

[35:25] spent $358. The difference between them is the 30 or so you're looking at.

[35:30] » Got it. >> Yeah.

[35:32] » Understood. That was my main question and I think I'm clear now.

[35:37] » Righty. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Paul. And thank you, Isa. Um, okay.

[35:41] Um, if there are no other questions on the ordinance, uh, at this time, let's,

[35:45] uh, go ahead. >> I do have one question.

[35:47] » Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. >> Uh, just a comment that we can get fixed

[35:50] between first and second reading. If we open up the parks and wreck budget, uh,

[35:55] object code 49, I'll give you the page number in one second.

[35:59] » 49. >> Uh, page 14, it's the arts and culture

[36:03] board events. Those dates that we have there, just for transparency, those

[36:07] don't equate to Fridays. there. I think those were last year's dates that just

[36:10] got copied and pasted if for anybody who's looking at that.

[36:13] » Oh, I see. >> Just maybe fix those dates between first

[36:15] and second reading because that's Friday, October 10th is it's not a

[36:18] Friday and Sunday, December 14th is not >> I got that noted. Thank you.

[36:22] » So, just that's just little things I noticed that maybe we can just for

[36:24] transparency uh sake. >> All righty.

[36:30] All right. Thanks, Commissioner. Um anything else? I don't want to cut

[36:33] anybody off. Okay. Um All right. So then uh do I have

[36:37] a motion to table uh ordinance 2026-06? >> Make a motion to table.

[36:44] » Second. >> Okay. All in favor?

[36:46] » I >> I Okay. And do I have a motion to reopen

[36:49] ordinance 2026-05? >> Make a motion to reopen ordinance 265

[36:56] adopted by minutes. >> Second.

[36:58] » All right. All in favor? >> I I

[37:00] » I Okay. Are there any um Well, we didn't have a discussion on this. We tabled it,

[37:04] but are there any discussion points on the the millage the proposed millage

[37:07] rate before we um call for a role? >> Yeah, I just have a comment. Uh this is

[37:12] for you Paul. So when I was reading this or for John, I don't know who takes

[37:16] this. Uh it says whereas the village commissioner of the village risk and

[37:21] park received the certificate of taxable value on real and personal profit from

[37:26] the Miami day county property appraiser who certified the gross taxable value

[37:31] for operating purposes to be 4.7. Isn't that um the the the gross taxable value?

[37:40] Shouldn't that be the whole amount of like the 513 million

[37:44] and then what you actually are showing is the gross revenue that you're living

[37:49] at at 9.2. >> Okay. Uh I'm trying to figure out what

[37:56] you're describing here. >> Looking at the ordinance.

[37:58] » I don't have the ordinance in front of me, but go ahead.

[38:01] » Okay. >> I have I'm going to read it to you

[38:03] » detail in front of me. The wording says um John you have it with you. It says um

[38:09] whereas on the first paragraph, the village commission of the village of

[38:13] Biskin Park received the certificate of taxable value on real and pro and

[38:19] personal property from the Miami Day County property appraiser who certified

[38:22] the gross taxable value for operating purposes to be 4.734

[38:31] 629 which is the the budget that we have ultimately. But shouldn't there be

[38:36] because I think that this is actually the gross advalorum there will levy at

[38:42] 9.2. It's not the taxable value. I don't know what I read and I remember

[38:48] we passed in July that the talkable the the total taxable value was around 514

[38:54] million. >> It is 514. Correct.

[38:56] » Right. So it it shouldn't shouldn't this be the 514?

[39:01] » I can't see the ordinance so I'm not going to be able to answer you. I just I

[39:04] let John clarif the numbers get flipped out of the right slot.

[39:10] » I drafted the ordinance I left it blank for staff to insert the appropriate

[39:16] numbers. >> Okay.

[39:17] » So you to your point commissioner um the gross tax taxual value um certified by

[39:25] the property appraisers the number that we will put in there. That number is

[39:30] currently incorrect. >> I will get with um um staff uh certainly

[39:35] before um first and second reading to put in the correct number if this is not

[39:40] the correct number. >> Just check on that poll that the number

[39:43] at the end of a day is the taxable amount and not the leave at 2 point uh

[39:48] 9.2. That's my only comment. So it it to your point it should match

[39:55] up with whatever was the number that was inserted into the resolution ex uh

[40:03] establishing the tenative millage rate uh and we will double check that.

[40:07] » Okay. Thank you. That's it. >> Mr. Mayor.

[40:12] » Yes. >> What I would um

[40:14] » what I normally recommend uh I can't speak for my

[40:19] that uh the language in um section one of the ordinance

[40:27] just to read it verbatim into the record because that is what you know those are

[40:32] the magic words that uh need to be stated on the record in order to comply

[40:37] with statute is to roll back rate and that you are establishing ing the roll

[40:42] back rate u at the percentage rate that is higher than uh your I'm sorry

[40:49] proposed final millage rate uh is higher than the uh pullback rate in order to be

[40:56] able to fund the proposed final budget. >> Okay. So you're asking what you're

[41:01] asking me then to read section one >> um or I can read it for you all.

[41:06] » Sure. >> Okay.

[41:07] » Go ahead. So, you know, if for purposes of compliance with the um um statutory

[41:14] requirements um

[41:17] proposed um or final proposed millage rate um on first reading uh is as

[41:22] follows. The fiscal year 2026 2027 operating millage rate for the village

[41:27] of Biscane Park is set at 9.2 two mills per each 1,000 of assessed value as

[41:33] certified the Miami Miami Dade County property appraiser as shown on the real

[41:37] and personal property assessment roles for the 2026 calendar calendar year and

[41:41] which is 5.97% greater than the rolled back rate of

[41:46] 8.68.20 20 mills. And the reason for the

[41:51] proposed increase is in order to fund the um proposed uh final budget uh that

[41:58] you previously discussed um and to arrive at that um budget number.

[42:03] » Okay. Thank you very much, John. Um all right. So, if there is no further

[42:07] discussion on the ordinance, uh Madame Clerk, would you please call the role?

[42:11] » Mayor Gro, >> yes.

[42:13] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez, >> yes.

[42:15] » Commissioner Amsler, >> yes. Commissioner Huntington.

[42:18] » Yes. >> Commissioner Samra.

[42:20] » Yes. >> Mr. Mayor, the

[42:23] the ordinance is adopted on first reading. 5-0.

[42:27] » Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk. All right. Do I have a motion and a second

[42:30] to reopen the second ordinance 2026-06 first reading?

[42:33] » Make a motion to reopen. >> Okay. We have a second.

[42:36] » Second. >> Right. All in favor?

[42:37] » I >> I All right. If there is no further

[42:40] discussion on this ordinance, I will ask the clerk for a role on this ordinance.

[42:46] Oh, sorry. >> I believe that um as as amended because

[42:50] you all >> as amended. Yes. Thank you.

[42:52] » I have one one more question on that I forgot to ask. Sure.

[42:56] » Was anything established in relates uh in relation to the roads?

[43:01] » Was that touch as to how are we going to treat roads? What sort of uh uh projects

[43:07] going to start for that >> in this budget? No. Commissioner's

[43:11] house. >> So, we're not touching roads at all. Um,

[43:14] what was the money that was needed to do five roads that was command um addressed

[43:18] during the freebie uh contract? Was it like you said five rows for 150 or

[43:25] something like that? Is that what we're looking into to fix?

[43:30] All right. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Um, are

[43:35] there any other questions before we call the role?

[43:38] » No. >> None. Okay. Madam clerk, would you

[43:41] please call the role on the second ordinance, please?

[43:43] » Mayor Grub, >> as amended, sorry. Yes.

[43:47] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez, >> yes.

[43:50] » Commissioner Amsler, >> yes.

[43:52] » Commissioner Huntington, >> yes.

[43:54] » Commissioner Samra, >> yes.

[43:56] » The item passes is adopted on first reading as amended. 50.

[44:01] » Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. >> Uh, having no further business on this

[44:05] agenda, I will ask for a motion to adjurnn.

[44:07] » I make a motion to adjurnn. Second. Second.

[44:11] » All in favor? >> I

[44:13] » I. >> All right. Thanks very much, everyone.

[44:16] We'll see you back here in two weeks.

[44:20] » I I I found what you were talking about. It had LA It had last year's number in

[44:24] it. It wasn't when when you sent it to me, it wasn't blank. So, I didn't I

[44:27] missed it. I just sent him a corrected one.

[44:30] » No, it's right. You were right. It's 54

[44:37] hours.

[44:45] » Yeah. Well, I mean,

[45:01] » I remember

[45:16] One of them had

[45:35] us still with

[45:43] Okay.

[45:46] Commission meeting over

[45:52] this one.

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