[0:09] Everybody stand alone

[0:28] for all.

[0:40] better.

[1:06] Um we are we are approving this review um meeting minutes from May 26, June 1st

[1:16] and June 8th that will be posted. Um I vote proof select word minutes for those

[1:22] dates. >> Second.

[1:23] » Any questions? >> None. All in favor

[1:35] » state of Sar W. Rabbit. >> Yeah.

[1:48] » I the only one signing this or they signing this or

[1:51] » I think you're the only >> I think one area for signature.

[1:57] So we did review this. We have talked to

[2:03] we should be okay

[2:11] as well as the library. We check with them

[2:21] estate.

[2:25] All in favor?

[2:46] All

[2:59] right.

[3:21] I don't know. I don't

[3:28] » know. Asking for closed captions to be on

[3:33] talking about. >> Okay.

[3:35] » Do you >> Oh, yeah. You can turn them on. See up

[3:39] top >> little

[3:42] » Did you see it though? >> Nope.

[3:44] » You go over to >> me.

[3:51] » Go to more. >> There it is.

[3:54] There. That's it. >> That's it.

[4:02] » 385. No.

[4:05] » What? What's the main phone number? A484279

[4:11] extension 206

[4:18] 42

[4:23] » 206

[4:28] I sent you um so it's it's at the top box the correspondence with legal in

[4:35] regards to

[4:49] We will now appoint uh we're looking to appoint Kathy Sneltzer to the cultural

[4:54] council for the term September 8th, 2026 through June 30th, 2029. Is there

[5:00] anybody here from the cultural council? I think Kathy might I don't know that

[5:06] » it might be.

[5:11] » Well, she can unmute. >> She can unmute. I think

[5:21] » I could be wrong. Maybe it's not her. >> Yes.

[5:31] » No. They're not

[5:36] » approve

[5:40] to to the um cultural council. >> She's the only one that has different

[5:45] dates than the rest of them. >> She does three years. The rest of them

[5:50] are one year. >> The cultural counts are set up for three

[5:55] years.

[6:00] » Second.

[6:09] The only one don't bundle would be Karina. I think she has to abstain from

[6:13] hers.

[6:28] planning the community development coordination

[6:32] group.

[6:38] I think we can turn

[6:43] folks feel it's a real benefit. I got a feeling they're

[6:49] extend

[6:59] Everyone's

[7:03] James Bland Raymond Jennifer Gerard

[7:08] Adam Dolby Gates

[7:13] Community.

[7:25] because you still have to um appoint her in

[7:30] » you have to appoint her. She just has to

[7:40] chart to as the chair of the select as the

[7:46] community development coordination group. Second

[7:56] » and I have Thank you.

[8:02] » Yeah.

[8:46] Okay.

[8:52] » Will these folks have to uh Yep.

[8:56] » Yes. Everybody has

[9:05] um Doris does that once these are signed. I keep it as a

[9:11] tool for me, but I give Doris and that's her tool through on the rest of what

[9:16] they're

[10:08] We'll come up with a fancy signature.

[10:21] you approve for payments with the payroll is

[10:29] that correct? >> Yes. Um I don't have it yet. So I'll

[10:33] have you guys come in and sign tomorrow maybe

[10:37] and then we'll just make a motion next week, next meeting.

[10:47] That's it for those types of action items. The rest is new business. Um so

[10:52] first on the

[10:58] » um I talked to Adam earlier join us.

[11:12] All right. So, let's talk about cell phon.

[11:40] » I know. speaking. They was talking his personal

[11:46] jam-packed with messages and

[11:54] » I don't

[12:11] Yeah, >> people that have

[12:16] » n the problem I'm having right now is Mary said she can't hear anything.

[12:21] » I tested the speakers when I started it and it said

[12:27] » I don't know. Mary says she can't hear.

[12:31] » Mary, can you hear me?

[12:35] » Is connecting to audio. It might be a Mary thing.

[12:38] » Okay. Hold on.

[12:42] » How about whoever see us? >> I don't know.

[12:46] » Enough.

[12:52] » She said she could hear us just then. I'm asking her. Was it enough?

[13:04] » Well, she can read the captions, right? >> Yeah. She said she's good. Okay.

[13:09] Um so let's you know so from the feedback I heard was

[13:28] » um well can I just it's not about I don't mind either right but I think that

[13:34] if you're going to do it we shouldn't do it for the person we should do it for

[13:38] the position. So, if you know, if it makes sense that select board members

[13:42] have phones, which I kind of think it does, you know, you guys should have

[13:46] your personal phones and then your phones for business. Um, if you guys

[13:51] think that makes sense, I think you should probably make a list of the

[13:55] positions that make no sense. I mean, I'll be the first one to tell you. I

[13:58] don't mind, right? But moving forward, the next county administrator might want

[14:04] their own. Yeah, that would just be my only and funding

[14:10] wise, we could write an article for special town meeting that we're going to

[14:14] inevitably have in the spring um for funding. So,

[14:18] » right, >> it's up to you guys to decide who to

[14:20] identify. >> Who else? I mean, that's

[14:26] think Nicole. >> Um I think anybody who uh you know is in

[14:31] is is handling any sort of maintenance with the town, right? Like so perhaps

[14:36] you know if we get that position filled for maintenance

[14:45] » fire department has

[14:50] » just 911 and >> okay

[14:53] » inspections it's through Adam >> so

[15:01] comes in through get dispatched.

[15:06] » So over the radio. >> Over the radio, but we also get it on

[15:10] our phones. Have a tap in place.

[15:18] » It would make sense to have a department head phone,

[15:21] » right? The fire chief would have a phone. Um, you know, I know police

[15:26] chief, she has a phone, but we pay through that through our half of what we

[15:32] pay to Chester. highway water. Um, you know, like I

[15:38] said, a maintenance

[15:44] » building maintenance. You definitely do that.

[15:47] » Right. Right. >> I know. I mean some folks don't like to

[15:51] carry two phones but there's others that do

[15:57] their personal phone

[16:01] because what would happen like

[16:06] one of them would

[16:12] » they already do yeah handles that that >> for them but we pay you know half

[16:19] » so Okay.

[16:26] » Well, >> I mean,

[16:30] » no.

[16:36] » Maybe >> you know, highway, water, building, and

[16:41] fire.

[16:45] » Oh, Christina, how did I forget her? >> Everyone does. It's okay. Um, [laughter]

[16:54] » board member feels they would like to have one and we have it in the budget.

[16:58] » So again, I would I would h I would suggest that the board, you know, decide

[17:03] what roles could make sense for it. Whoever says they want one, that's fine.

[17:09] There's it's there. If you want it, we can sign you up for it. If they don't

[17:12] want it, that's fine, too. But the next person may. So, let's not do it, you

[17:16] know, over again. The only thing that concerns me about

[17:22] Dana is getting >> there should be a lot of things that

[17:25] concern you about me.

[17:30] » Oh, yeah. >> All right.

[17:34] » You know, like >> it happens now. It's okay.

[17:37] » You know, you don't know.

[17:40] » That's okay. >> That's okay. That's what I'm here for,

[17:43] right? Like that's, you know, >> No.

[17:47] Well, >> yeah, true. It's okay. That's not a

[17:50] conversation we need to have right now. I think that the board should just

[17:53] decide it makes sense that certain positions have cell phones. And if you

[17:58] would like, I can draft an article for the upcoming town special town meeting

[18:02] that would reflect that. >> Yeah.

[18:03] » And you guys can take a look at it how it's worded. And I my suggestion would

[18:08] be to word it as, you know, we want this fund for these positions. Whether

[18:12] somebody wants the phone or not, that's up to them. Um but we would also have a

[18:17] policy that would have to go along with it.

[18:19] » Oh, absolutely. >> To Steve because in business there's

[18:24] normally it organization manag

[18:45] All right. So, I agree. You know, let's go ahead and

[18:49] um

[18:52] » do it.

[18:56] Okay. I vote

[19:04] » to to

[19:10] Christina to draft an article for special town meeting to fund phones for

[19:15] identified department heads.

[19:27] Second question

[19:33] on that.

[19:36] » Okay. So, let's discuss um big heated discussion in town around the

[19:45] timing of this meeting our meetings. Um, I would say that, you know, I received

[19:52] feedback,

[19:56] you've received feedback, folks that feel that the timing of this

[20:01] is not good for them because if they work, they

[20:05] can't get here any

[20:15] decision that this was going to cause this level

[20:18] concern never even in my mind that it would or probably would not have changed

[20:24] it frankly because disrupting the town is not

[20:32] the rightver

[20:46] Where are we at?

[20:50] » Where folks are complaining about coming in at six.

[20:56] » You've got feedback you said, right? >> Yeah, I I've gotten feedback and

[21:08] I don't know four, five, six. I mean, we used to have

[21:13] them at seven that became way too late, you know, especially things we have on

[21:20] our show. I don't know. I six

[21:28] years. >> I just know that as you can tell right

[21:31] now, not too many show up because most of them are working. That's the

[21:35] feedback. And I know that we are concerned about, you know, when we do

[21:40] have them at 6, we don't have people show up. But if it's on the agenda and

[21:44] there's something that they want to >> want to look at, then we should give

[21:48] them the opportunity to come here >> and and not ask them to take a day off

[21:52] of work so that they can attend a 4:00 meeting.

[21:56] » So I I I think think we should go back to circle

[21:59] » and we can also like have our executive, >> right?

[22:07] to keep the peace and to >> it's some kind of normality event.

[22:11] » I'm not catching this. Sorry. >> 6 o'clock. Yeah.

[22:14] » Yeah. But what did you say about executive sessions?

[22:19] » Instead of, you know, attaching that which seems to keep us a lot later. We

[22:23] just pick a different day for executive. >> Is there any reason you couldn't do

[22:26] executive session first so that you can meet earlier?

[22:30] Well, >> any day. We can do it any

[22:36] » I mean two days you'd have to come in but if you had your meeting at 4 and did

[22:40] executive session just a suggestion >> we could

[22:44] home at 9:00 at night >> right

[22:48] » but I think six you know unless it's like we had our department meeting of

[22:52] course that was longer we had everybody here

[22:57] that was three hours but I mean a normal one usually lasts an hour

[23:02] So >> yeah

[23:07] and an executive

[23:14] » are we going to get feedback we vote to change now get people calling

[23:20] and saying it's a better >> I have not heard anything about legging

[23:24] at four >> once you change it you will

[23:27] » well of course but I mean the majority want want it back at six so they can

[23:32] have the opportunity to come up or visit us.

[23:34] » Yeah. >> Instead of taking time off of work.

[23:38] » I I make a motion to the meeting back to six o'clock.

[23:42] » Okay. >> And the executive meetings will be at

[23:46] our discretion. >> That way there you don't have to tie it

[23:49] in at 4:00 on Monday. You can have it on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[24:02] Okay, perfect.

[24:18] » What about the 700,000? Adam's supposed to be joining.

[24:27] All right, we're gonna discuss uh the firehouse

[24:32] building. Let's just talk about it for a second.

[24:40] » So, has been doing some work on this. I've been doing some work.

[24:48] Um, and to get back to the residents and give

[24:55] them an update as to what occurred with the last project team that did a lot of

[25:01] work to get us to where we are right now. We didn't get it over the finish

[25:06] line of what was needed to be done, but we at least got to the point where

[25:10] they've done a lot of reviews of different locations.

[25:15] » So, there is something that we can

[25:20] The next step is to get to

[25:28] » you select the space and then we need

[25:39] this as to when we're gonna get back where we are.

[25:47] I personally feel and I know there's some negative feedback on this but I

[25:52] think

[25:55] voted for

[25:59] towns people about when did we change it from the highway firehouse to just the

[26:04] firehouse

[26:09] at one point but it never got

[26:13] changed by town vote. So I think that we have to present it in

[26:19] such a way that it's still the highway and the firehouse and let town people

[26:22] kind of >> but um both sites that we've kind of

[26:28] landed on as possible and accommodate both

[26:34] should we go down that um so I'm willing to work on

[26:41] the engineering

[26:48] What do you guys think to have a really it's anformational

[26:54] meeting? We're not going to be on >> I no I would

[27:02] need to have in order to form an opinion on what they how they want to

[27:10] move forward.

[27:13] just

[27:16] on meeting we're going to talk about having both

[27:23] or one or the other. I mean when it comes comes right down

[27:31] bigger project the more expensive it's going to be the longer wait

[27:37] it's going to be so >> [snorts]

[27:43] » this. It's going to have to be either firehouse

[27:47] department. If we do both then everyone

[27:53] knows

[27:57] you know and you're not

[28:02] » 8 to 10

[28:14] » that's what it was >> tent type things And what's the story on

[28:21] that? >> The tent themselves.

[28:25] » Yeah, you can cover all the equipment. >> So you're talking anywhere from 250,000

[28:33] » but you can't that's not heated, no electric.

[28:37] » I understand that. >> There was no foundation,

[28:39] » right? >> But you your concern is protecting the

[28:43] equipment. So that would that would help us out in

[28:50] such a way that uh we could push for just the firehouse for now or

[28:56] » that would just be storing equipment. >> Yeah.

[28:58] » You know, everything we have in town is sitting outside and it's all getting

[29:03] weathered.

[29:09] » That would solve that. But then again, we have a building at the highway

[29:13] department. Having Jason come in two years ago now when Jen came in when we

[29:19] had the the building inspector check it out.

[29:23] » We have cracks on the wall. The the actual cinder blocks are crumbling on

[29:27] the foundation. It it's it is in disarray. We already

[29:32] replaced the whole front of the building uh before I started. So that must have

[29:36] been six or seven years ago. Am I right on the

[29:39] » 2015 >> 2015 we had to take the front of the

[29:44] building apart and put the new structure on it.

[29:51] » I was going to say is that I think you should do theformational session if you

[29:55] decide to do anything other than joint fire and highway. My suggestion would be

[29:59] and I think legal would agree that you have to do another vote.

[30:02] » Yes. >> Because the original vote was for both.

[30:05] So to move forward at all You need to know what the how the town wants the

[30:09] money spent. >> I could we could do could do like a

[30:14] presentation of it combined and then separate.

[30:18] » We'd have to have >> we do

[30:32] » we never really got to final because we never got to the design phase. Well,

[30:38] that's thing is we we have to have something to present people and they're

[30:44] gonna they're want to know

[30:54] the people to get us to where we need to go.

[30:58] » Yeah.

[31:02] » And we're either going to have to and I I'm looking at, you know, possible

[31:07] part of that. But what the project was supposed to get to

[31:12] the point of here's what we found to be your options for putting this thing and

[31:18] the second part of the project that town has already paid for and here's what

[31:23] that's going to cost based on the design that we have created and then there was

[31:27] going to be a vote. We got to the point of

[31:31] determined these are the spots that it could go to and we took out the highway

[31:38] without informing them all that we did that. That's at least that's what I'm

[31:43] hearing. That's what people are saying. Some people, you know, it's like it's I

[31:48] can't say it's everybody, >> but but the thing is is that the

[31:52] firehouse is going to be far more injured than the highway garage. Okay.

[31:58] So, what what we need to do is uh if we're

[32:04] we're going to do a presentation, we have we have to have a location for

[32:09] both putting it out where the salt ship that

[32:14] would work fine for the highway department.

[32:18] But in the center of town, you want the fire department because everything's

[32:24] spread out. Okay, we got a fire up by Otis. We got a fire over on Eagle

[32:32] Hill Road. >> I didn't mean to interrupt you, but Ray

[32:34] and I were actually just talking about this. If you want to

[32:39] » That was a concern about the center of town and

[32:42] » having it up at the salt shed. That's where the plans I seen I seen design

[32:47] plans. I dug the pits for the engineer so they could end up putting a building

[32:53] up there for the share joint fire highway.

[32:56] » What? Yes, that was the last I heard at that point. I seen plans for it. It

[33:00] looked good. We could end up having the station also

[33:06] in town. That was a big thing. I remember everyone saying the the

[33:11] highway, the fire department's going to be way too far out there. You go to

[33:15] Russell, they got multiple stations. You go to Chester, they got multiple

[33:18] stations. We can keep the majority of our apparatus in town and have storage

[33:24] for let's say tanker that you don't use every single time there's a call

[33:29] » in the facility. Let's say if we did put a salt yard, we can still go with those

[33:34] plans and still have a building that would be jointly shared between the

[33:39] highway and fire. >> And didn't you you were talking about

[33:42] response times? >> Yes. So on top of that, no one ever said

[33:47] to the town, "Hey, hop on a bus and let's show you something and actually

[33:53] show them, okay, the response time from CH from 58 Chester Road to the center of

[33:58] town versus coming here to this station, having to squeeze less than 2 feet in

[34:04] between two trucks, put your boots on, put your gear on, open up the doors

[34:09] manually, and creep out the door. Otherwise, you're taking the mirrors off

[34:13] the truck and one of the trucks, not just the mirrors, but you can rip the

[34:17] whole side of the truck and take the front of the the, you know,

[34:20] » the whole pump. Yeah. >> Which has happened before. And to prove

[34:25] it to the people so they can end up seeing, wait, this does make sense.

[34:29] We've had two open

[34:35] fire department. I don't

[34:39] people actually went All right. So, to get their a bus like

[34:46] you said and bring them to the different locations,

[34:50] I don't know. Yeah. I I I don't know if that would work or not to get them to

[34:55] come look. >> When you have that town meeting and you

[34:58] have all those people that are there to say yay or nay for what they're voting

[35:03] for, that's the crowd that you need to end upating on. The point is the leaders

[35:09] of the the people who are doing the work, right? The people who are there,

[35:12] right? You have right, he's on the fire department and he's the highway

[35:16] superintendent. He's saying that he thinks and he's a resident. He's saying

[35:20] that he thinks that that's a positive thing. I think that's that's what people

[35:25] need to hear to make their own decisions. Not something they think you

[35:29] want to hear, but >> he does both jobs, right? And he's

[35:33] saying >> it's doable. It's feasible. I think they

[35:36] that people need to hear it from the people in leadership in the community

[35:43] » because if we start throwing numbers out and they hear different numbers that

[35:47] we're saying it might scare them when we have the facts right out right that's

[35:53] when we end up saying okay these are the solid numbers that we have here's the

[35:56] designs yeah

[36:05] have to put the numbers together real

[36:21] is it's been so long talked about it's like beating a dead horse. The horse is

[36:25] dead already from 2016 all the way up to 23. the residents

[36:32] don't want to hear it anymore because yes, you have some that want to go for

[36:36] it, some that don't, and then obviously people in between that just create

[36:41] chaos. So, having someone that's can speak to the residents and actually show

[36:48] them the differences and have something set up. I know you're saying open houses

[36:52] cuz I remember when Dave had an open house at the highway garage when he was

[36:55] here. Very few, maybe a handful of people showed up, but I didn't see him

[37:01] talking to the residents. I didn't see him actually interacting with him and

[37:05] saying, "Come up to check out the garage." You know, that that is one

[37:09] thing that myself I could say I could probably pull

[37:13] in a good crowd in this town to have them come up and check out. No,

[37:17] honestly, and the department >> I never even heard about the open

[37:20] houses. >> I didn't

[37:24] mean >> Mary putting in the paper like we could

[37:27] definitely have a a barbecue up there and we could probably pull most of the

[37:31] taxpayers in town there.

[37:38] » Yeah.

[37:46] Not everybody get right out there saying open house.

[37:52] » I'm out of >> Can I call you back?

[37:56] » You know people when they go by the firehouse they see the number one in the

[38:01] bay or out front. [snorts] Maybe if you took videos and watch it coming out with

[38:05] inches of spare. Same thing. go around, take pictures inside and put it on the

[38:10] YouTube so the town residents have no reason why they say they can't see it.

[38:14] » Yes.

[38:21] » So, I understand that you're you're getting all of this information and then

[38:25] you're going to take it to the town and everything like that. Could you just do

[38:28] like anformational session? >> Okay.

[38:32] » Yeah. >> Oh, no. Absolutely. No, but you know

[38:36] what I mean? And then that way people can bring up their grievances and all of

[38:41] their points of well, you know, and if they want to, they be like, "Okay, next

[38:47] week we're going to have an open house. If you have any questions or if you have

[38:52] any anything, come down and take a look for yourself. See how little bit of

[38:57] space you've got to squeak these trucks out of, you know? Come and see the walls

[39:02] that are literally falling down. Obviously people who are coming to

[39:06] thatformational session are interested and then they will come to the following

[39:14] open house and you know get to see it firsthand.

[39:18] » I think that um my my take is that most people that I've

[39:25] spoken with agree with having a new firehouse. Okay, they do.

[39:30] » There's no doubt about it. People are concerned with how much money it's going

[39:35] to cost. What's it going to do to their taxes?

[39:37] » It's only going to go up. >> Is what it is.

[39:39] » But the thing is is that if we don't take care of it now, eventually it's not

[39:43] going to be a question. >> I understand.

[39:45] » But I know. So it's like it's either you spend the money now

[39:49] » or you wait till yours until it's even more of a problem. possibly an emergency

[39:54] problem because we have no apparatus because the building has literally

[39:57] crumbled and then you have to replace all that apparatus.

[40:01] » Like a firehouse isn't a regular house. Like it's a whole different kind of

[40:06] building and unfortunately it comes with a price tag.

[40:11] » True. But in a town, you need a fire department. And I get that like most of

[40:16] the time, we kind of get put to the back of your mind like you don't think about

[40:20] us necessarily until you need us. And then when you need us, you need us,

[40:26] » you know, >> questions about it.

[40:28] » So it there's no way around the price tag.

[40:32] » I'm opening this up to the >> I also think that um people still don't

[40:36] know what the location options are. >> No, I know we haven't, right? That's

[40:40] part of the communication that I mean assault threat is one of them. Then was

[40:44] it behind the highway garage? Is it down here on Russell Road? That is a lot of

[40:48] what people were concerned about partly from what Ray was saying about the

[40:52] response time, but also where is it going to be and what's what would the

[40:56] the price difference be once we get there? But I think lots of people just

[41:00] say we don't even know what the options are.

[41:04] feedback because remember the only time this board gets to talk together is in

[41:09] this room in this meeting and you know >> it's hard to do things like this. This

[41:14] is our only opportunity, right? Um, I'm hearing a whole bunch of things that I

[41:20] take into put this presentation together and

[41:26] probably October sometime

[41:31] to have a session informational session or even beginning in November

[41:40] and we would have to come back and have sessions on, you know, we may have other

[41:47] information.

[41:54] I would like

[41:57] it's hard. So we're going to have I think we have

[42:13] people are wearing the dog. People are doing stuff they can't do during the

[42:16] week. What about a I know you you earlier. What about 7 o'clock when

[42:21] people are back? They >> easily

[42:26] have a session.

[42:35] » I challenged how

[42:40] execute

[42:45] what you just said, right? Where is that space going to come from? How are they,

[42:49] you know, are they going to be open to discussion? They feel like we dropped

[42:54] the ball. >> We did

[42:56] » dropped the ball. >> Multiple multiple generations of people.

[43:00] It wasn't just one board. It was many, many, many. Right. If it's 2016, first

[43:05] time we start talking about it, that's years.

[43:08] » Decisions were made. You just kept beating around the bush. Not you.

[43:12] » I said no decisions were made. You guys just kept beating around the bush. And I

[43:15] know it wasn't this board. I'm just >> Yeah. Well, I I was on four different

[43:21] committees to to discuss this. And the second committee, we actually came up

[43:28] with [snorts] plans because Steve Zak was on it. He's an architect

[43:32] » and he drew up the building and everything. We presented it to the board

[43:38] and the chair of the board accepted the plans and put them in the basket.

[43:44] That was it. So, you know, it gets very discourage

[43:48] discouraging. And I was on four of them. I was on this last one, but I conceded

[43:53] my chair to another uh selectman because I was out of town a lot

[43:59] » and uh it went to hell. Well, and if you don't, you have to have

[44:06] the number one thing on a big project like this is you have to have a leader

[44:11] that has passion for making sure that the project comes to an end.

[44:16] » You can hire a project manager, which we have to legally. You can hire an

[44:21] engineering team, >> but you really need a leader that they

[44:25] are just constantly pounding people to get things done on the project every

[44:30] way. looking at budget, looking at, you know, everything. And that's something

[44:35] that we're going to have to figure out who is that leader.

[44:39] And it can't be somebody, you know, I mean, Adam is a great guy, but Adam is

[44:44] working full time. >> This is a full-time

[44:49] focused person. So, that would be something that we as a board should be

[44:54] looking figuring out who that should be. >> It ain't going to be me. I'm too old.

[44:59] » It [clears throat] could be me. should also be somebody that has construction

[45:02] experience. >> Correct.

[45:04] » Correct. Right. Because they could be looking out for the town in different

[45:08] ways. So, okay. So, but we're all game to have anformational session.

[45:15] » Here's something that we haven't considered.

[45:18] you have these um like the Butler buildings and and that and

[45:26] I remember talking with the uh OPM column way back when and after they

[45:34] built the building and that and they actually used the architect at the steel

[45:39] building that they went with and they they gave you know the shell. what do

[45:47] you want in the shelf and everything? They came up with a price like that just

[45:51] just to get, you know, people at, okay, this is what it's going to cost us. What

[45:58] do we add? What do we subtract? to get a number for the

[46:01] » to get a number [clears throat]

[46:04] » and they're all licensed architects and engineers

[46:09] » and then you add on

[46:15] » at the very latest the second week of November.

[46:19] » Second [clears throat] got a number on that date.

[46:32] Friday the 13th. Oh god. [laughter]

[46:42] » No. Election was Tuesday the 3.

[46:48] [clears throat]

[46:52] » Friday.

[47:00] I'm good.

[47:08] » There are so many options that it's it's insane that so many options

[47:15] building like TJ was saying that these these companies will in you buy the

[47:20] building and they will construct it for you. They'll put the plans out,

[47:24] everything, right? And they'll deliver it.

[47:27] » Yeah. >> I deliver it right to you. I remember

[47:30] and you were going to go. >> Yeah.

[47:33] » But I Yeah.

[47:36] » When when the project was going

[47:41] » I asked him I said, "How did you know

[47:46] and stuff like that?" He goes, "Well, budget was out of control."

[47:49] » Yeah. So they >> Oh, absolutely.

[47:54] » But we can learn from there.

[47:59] » I mean, they even have, believe it or not, firehouses that you

[48:09] » Yeah.

[48:16] All right. Last thing.

[48:21] is that

[48:30] we are going to have

[48:33] school administration.

[48:40] Um

[48:43] TJ and I

[48:48] um she represents the western dark side of the state. Um and she's coming in

[48:56] here with a team from a climate climate background I think from the

[49:02] state level and she's coming to hear about how our residents it's a talk it's

[49:07] a feedback session on best >> and solar

[49:12] » and solar so it's to get feedback from the residents about their feeling about

[49:19] best um it's on the 19th

[49:24] Yeah. At 5:00. Um

[49:33] this will be

[49:43] for the res.

[49:48] Um we may want to actually talk to Adam to see

[49:54] fire department side as well as Jen Gerard from Florida.

[50:01] Anybody else that we would want to definitely have

[50:05] water department

[50:14] » should be there.

[50:22] Yeah, absolutely.

[50:28] » All right.

[50:31] » What's the date on that?

[50:37] » It is. So, I suspect we will not have a select

[50:42] meeting. >> Well, um I was trying to schedule it. I

[50:47] thought the select board meeting would be at 4. This would be from 5 to 6

[50:51] because it was before it was changed back. So

[50:58] » would you be willing to do on Tuesday on Monday?

[51:02] » Yeah. Okay.

[51:09] » I will not be here for that. Not that I need to be. I'm just letting you know.

[51:13] » Yeah.

[51:22] Sorry, Jackie. What time did you say?

[51:32] Monday morning at 5.

[51:43] » Yes, that is for anything that Yeah.

[51:51] I'm good.

[51:56] » So, I have um we've been working a while on getting

[52:02] contracts for the post office chimney repair

[52:09] » and we were talking to we were talking to Greenwood. They are

[52:15] on state contract. Um here are two contracts signed off by accounting and

[52:22] by legal. One is for the um repairs to the roof for this building and the other

[52:29] is for the chimney flashing repair at the town at the post office. Both have

[52:36] their age sheets attached there and they're good

[52:40] to go. um funding is there and so once we get these signed I can send them back

[52:45] over to our contact at Greenwood and hopefully get that all squared away

[52:50] before winter. >> Adam's here.

[52:57] » Hey guys. Yeah, I can hear you perfectly.

[53:02] » All right. So, this is for the roof and the chimney.

[53:05] » Yes. Right.

[53:17] How much is uh shoot? Yeah, go ahead and review them and then we'll vote.

[53:23] » I was looking for right here. 6,500 >> and that's for

[53:30] » that's for the post office >> and 9,500 for the repairs to the town

[53:36] hall. That thing that's been leaking forever.

[53:53] » Yeah.

[54:13] Yes, this is just a repair. >> Yes, it's on a full new roof. I wish.

[54:18] » What's the date today? >> Today is the 8th. September 8th.

[54:26] » The drainage. >> It was quite expensive. Yeah. It was um

[54:31] but they but that they were supposed to these are the things that they do that

[54:36] are covered under state contract. Their services that allow them to do the

[54:41] drainage work is not covered under state contract.

[54:46] » Yes. Senator, right?

[54:50] » They they would bid on the project.

[54:54] » What we're talking about here is that if you go back

[55:02] in the room and the guy showed me, you know,

[55:10] one um and the cement back there is all cracked and unsafe.

[55:16] Um It smells bad.

[55:46] two. Where's the other one? Where's the other one?

[55:49] » This copy.

[55:56] Yeah. Okay.

[56:25] Second >> questions. All in favor?

[56:28] » I

[56:32] » we will scan those and give him a notice to proceed.

[56:43] » Okay. >> Received an email from Paul Dersk. Just

[56:48] a note to say the highway department dressed Bula Land Road. Seems like it

[56:54] must have been done Wednesday and eliminated the Oh, I think he meant

[56:57] addressed Bula Land Road and eliminated the growing array of potholes that has

[57:03] developed in the last few months. It's been well over a year since the road

[57:06] circus was last addressed and has held up very nicely since then. Please convey

[57:10] our appreciation to the highway department for their proactive efforts.

[57:15] Thank you. Um

[57:20] [clears throat] just we had discussed that something had

[57:23] come up last meetings um in relation some questions about um voter

[57:30] registration. Um we had looked into it. I put together

[57:34] just some information regarding what you know filling out our strength

[57:40] census what that does you know where certain notifications come from and what

[57:46] means what >> um I think that it's important that we

[57:51] obviously address it looked into it there was no ballot cast in the names of

[57:57] the people who were concerned um that there may have been what it was was they

[58:01] were on the voter um they've since been taken off the

[58:06] voter list because they verbally requested to be taken off the voter

[58:09] list. Um and that's sort of where we're at. I think um maybe Doris could pen a

[58:16] letter perhaps documenting that this was our findings. Um

[58:22] and I do think that it deserves, you know, a response to um Mr. and Mrs. I

[58:27] agree on some level um just to let them know that that's not not the case.

[58:33] Definitely did look into it. Cath clerk has not done

[58:38] anything >> done a lot over

[58:40] » Well, I mean, you haven't done anything wrong is what I'm saying. Not that you

[58:43] haven't done anything that it wasn't um an error in

[58:51] um

[58:55] » Mr. Mrs. The only

[59:00] was the information about the local election.

[59:07] Actually, we didn't even send that to her. We sent that

[59:14] as

[59:20] I contacted right. We were when she said something I contacted her and said

[59:30] you feel

[59:41] com

[59:52] So this clarifies that what you have here, Christina. Do you think I should

[59:56] read this or do you think this is something that

[1:00:00] » So um I don't know. So I I haven't spoken with um Miss Gregory, but I I

[1:00:07] believe what she may have gotten was the mailin vote thing that people get. Those

[1:00:11] don't come from town hall. They come [clears throat] from the state. Um it

[1:00:16] doesn't, you know, and I can understand why you would see that. And you know, if

[1:00:19] you're if you're registered somewhere else, you have a question. I I

[1:00:22] completely understand. I do just don't I I don't want it to go unanswered or

[1:00:26] unressed. I don't want the question lingering in anybody's mind. You know,

[1:00:30] was there an issue? >> Right.

[1:00:32] » Um so I appreciate and welcome any questions, but I, you know, there was no

[1:00:37] issue on our end and I want to make that make sure that that's clear. I don't

[1:00:41] want to step on any toes. I have no problem putting a letter together for

[1:00:45] them. Um, I just wasn't sure what the board wanted to do, what the town

[1:00:48] clerk's office wanted to do. >> There was just a little bit of misp,

[1:00:54] » right?

[1:01:05] comction.

[1:01:16] Yeah.

[1:01:29] and said, "Okay, the list

[1:01:49] » [laughter]

[1:01:53] » We can talk about it, but sure that she gets an answer back.

[1:02:00] » So, where did we land on that? Should I I don't mind. I just want to know for

[1:02:05] sure because I don't >> Yeah,

[1:02:14] » are you I can send it to town clerk first.

[1:02:19] » Sure. I would if you want some extra information, we'd be happy to provide

[1:02:23] it. >> Thank you, M.

[1:02:29] » Oh, I'm sorry. if I can still make. >> So, we had uh Paige Dolinsky has reached

[1:02:37] out to us a few times from um Senator Paul's office uh after receiving a

[1:02:44] constituent inquiry about swimming at Blair Pond. Um our master plan, our 2021

[1:02:50] open space and recreation plan recognizes that there was residential

[1:02:54] interest and calls for continued discussion with Springfield. uh it did

[1:02:59] not establish, you know, a process or funding or anything. It's just that the

[1:03:03] conversation needs it interested in having the conversation take place. Um

[1:03:09] I've been in correspondence with Paige and Paige is saying that she is going to

[1:03:15] reach out to uh Springfield Water Sewer Commission to see um if they're

[1:03:20] interested in having conversations about this moving forward.

[1:03:37] the resilient master plan. It it was for 2021 to 2027,

[1:03:46] that whole thing. And so what it is typically um all cities and

[1:03:51] municipalities have them and it's like a a wish list but it also has priorities

[1:03:56] in it. It also has you know if we could do everything it's right here but also

[1:04:01] here's like where we should be paying attention to this is what residents want

[1:04:04] this is what you know so it's a good road map when board or whomever you know

[1:04:09] isn't sure what direction the town was headed in four or five years ago. it's a

[1:04:15] good road mapap to go back and look at it. Um, and when I did, yep, there was

[1:04:19] definitely information in on the open space and recreation part of it and it

[1:04:24] was about, you know, there's interest in having the conversation. So, somebody I

[1:04:29] don't know who reached out to uh Senator Paul Mark's office and so they been in

[1:04:34] touch with me about it and so I've followed up with them and that's kind of

[1:04:38] where we're at. >> Absolutely.

[1:04:42] And there was a tradeoff and uh the conservation

[1:04:49] board and the recreation committee we're talking about putting a beach up on

[1:04:55] Blair Pond. [clears throat] And uh then the offer came for uh Springfield Water

[1:05:02] to turn over um Shepherd Farm to the town and uh

[1:05:11] conservation at the time thought that was a better deal than beach at Blair

[1:05:16] Pond. So we bought Shepherd Pond and when all said was done is all we got was

[1:05:22] all sprinkled water got was relief from tax burden and uh can't really use the

[1:05:29] property because they put so many uh conservation restrictions on it and that

[1:05:35] was uh I think Rosemary Arnold was uh chair of the conservation committee at

[1:05:42] the time. >> Oh.

[1:05:48] That that was a long time ago. [laughter]

[1:05:49] » Okay. Well, maybe they would be open to I don't know. But uh Paige uh Dolinsky

[1:05:55] from Senator Mark's office said that she will reach out to see if they're open

[1:05:59] for consultation about it. We don't own it. So there's you know we can only do

[1:06:03] so much.

[1:06:07] long time ago

[1:06:14] about because do we feel that the towns the residents still feel strongly about

[1:06:19] it get very involved in it or not and

[1:06:24] there's an expense associated with it I'm sure it's not free

[1:06:28] » there going to be a big expense >> so what would be the next logical step

[1:06:35] with

[1:06:37] I'm going to wait to hear back from Paige. She said the current status on

[1:06:41] public swimming act um >> she's going to clarify the current

[1:06:44] status on public swimming access and if there is interest to continue the

[1:06:48] conversation with the town. So she's going to reach out to the water

[1:06:52] commission. She said more to come. Enjoy your read. So I'm waiting for a response

[1:06:56] from >> coach.

[1:07:03] Well, I mean, I don't think they I think they I think I made it clear. I know we

[1:07:08] don't have a plan, >> but the convers for us to have a plan,

[1:07:13] you have to have the conversation.

[1:07:21] » Let's see what she says. >> What else?

[1:07:27] » Greenwood. Oh, was there seems to be an issue with

[1:07:31] uh gateway farm and pet the way the invoicing had been submitted. They were

[1:07:37] putting all departments on one invoice. It's getting cleared up, but I just

[1:07:41] wanted anybody to know. I think it affects highway, COA,

[1:07:46] » cemetery, board of health, maybe not COA, I can't it was it was

[1:07:52] um >> because they're not

[1:07:53] » because they're not billing separately. So there will be I believe we'll we will

[1:07:57] have either two or three bills of prior year

[1:08:01] that we'll have on the special town meeting from gateway and then two on the

[1:08:04] upcoming warrant that are of this fiscal year.

[1:08:09] Um,

[1:08:14] there was an AFLAC payroll deduction issue with a

[1:08:20] former employee, but um I believe there's corrective action that was on

[1:08:26] the warrant through Kelly. Kelly cleaned it up. So, um, Matt Perry from Highway,

[1:08:34] it looks like there was a year-end reconciliation identified by Affleck

[1:08:38] payroll deduction that remained an outstanding variance. So, I believe

[1:08:42] Kelly's got that all taken care of and

[1:08:50] that was it. there were I know that we're going to re try and review the um

[1:08:55] Burkhog versus Encore, but we need a little bit more information on that. But

[1:08:59] Adam's here, maybe he can >> chime in. And I know that I don't want

[1:09:02] to take up too much time, so if Adam wants to

[1:09:07] » we'll do here

[1:09:16] on that. So, let's talk about the fire engine

[1:09:20] because we talked about it before, but we never really got to any kind of

[1:09:23] resolution. What are we going to do? >> Um, and it's really,000

[1:09:34] just to keep it going until we get the new one. Is that right?

[1:09:39] » Yeah. Um, by the way, the audio, oddly from the select board cuts in and out

[1:09:46] really, really bad, but I could hear Mary and Christina uh, unbelievably

[1:09:53] clearly. So, um, I'm not exactly sure what that is. I don't know if that's the

[1:09:57] speaker in the middle picking it up or if your mics aren't on or whatever. Uh

[1:10:01] anyway, um yes, the the sort of uh uh cognitive uh load for us is

[1:10:11] we have to I I believe we should fix engine one uh because it's going to be a

[1:10:16] minimum of two about two years before we can get a new truck and get it in

[1:10:21] service. Um, so it's about 15 grand to fix uh

[1:10:27] engine one's transmission uh to have it completely rebuilt. Um, and then we that

[1:10:34] would give us some time to not have to scramble and make uh a a rushed decision

[1:10:42] in terms of which type of truck manufacturer

[1:10:46] options uh for a new one. uh as well as potentially buy us a little bit of time

[1:10:52] if we have some clarity on direction for station that kind of stuff. Uh so my

[1:10:59] suggestion at this point is we should probably spend the money now to have the

[1:11:04] transmission rebuilt and then you know with the assumption of we could take a

[1:11:09] few months maybe six or so to evaluate options on the truck, figure out a

[1:11:16] long-term replacement strategy or overall appar apparatus in the

[1:11:21] department in general. uh and then you know give us some time to to move

[1:11:25] forward more diligently than quick scramble make a $700,000 purchase and

[1:11:31] wait a year and a half for it to show up.

[1:11:35] » You know the reason I want to bring it up is I think you discussed that new

[1:11:40] engine

[1:11:43] capital. >> Yep.

[1:11:47] So

[1:11:51] in the capital plan for next year make sure that we're

[1:11:59] never got in there.

[1:12:15] I think I have enough but I my assump nod your head because I won't be able to

[1:12:19] hear it particularly well. I'm assuming you asked if I have the 15 in the

[1:12:23] budget. >> Good nod. Okay. Um yes. Uh I I have it

[1:12:28] in budget but it's going to put me right at the uh absolute threshold for the

[1:12:34] year. So, we'll have to either, you know, do something with special town

[1:12:39] meeting whenever we do it or I just want you guys aware that I'll obviously

[1:12:43] overrun the budget, uh, which I don't normally do. So,

[1:12:50] » couple things. One is when are we planning special meeting

[1:13:04] unless there's a pressing issue that needs to take place before free cash is

[1:13:08] certified but I believe the assessors are working to set the tax rate as early

[1:13:13] as possible. So, she's got to

[1:13:18] » I think she already set the meeting date for the tax rate. I think it was I don't

[1:13:22] remember. >> I thought Yeah, I think she mentioned it

[1:13:24] last time, right? Yep. Last week. >> Yeah.

[1:13:27] » Wow. >> Um Michaela.

[1:13:30] » Michaela. >> Yep. That's who would do it. The

[1:13:32] assessors have a meeting to set the proposed tax rate.

[1:13:36] » Don't they have to wait for a lot of other things to occur before they can

[1:13:39] set that tax rate? >> No, it's preliminary taxes.

[1:13:43] » It's preliminary tax rate. And she had mentioned trying to get it out so that

[1:13:46] it was in people's hands before Christmas, I believe, was her line of

[1:13:51] thinking, but I might be remembering incorrectly. Yeah.

[1:14:01] » Yes, correct.

[1:14:08] » Yeah, we hope that it's not. That's always the the hope, but

[1:14:17] It was last year.

[1:14:25] » Um well, so those were different things we were scrambling with at the end of

[1:14:28] the year last year.

[1:14:33] » It would have impacted the tax rate. Yes.

[1:14:41] Um, >> just to close out on on mine, sorry. Um,

[1:14:45] are we is are you guys in agreement that we should spend the 15 and we're okay

[1:14:51] with me bumping up against the threshold there or what do you want me to do?

[1:14:58] » I'm not getting you at all. >> Talk about right now, Adam.

[1:15:02] » Perfect. Okay, thanks. Yeah, you don't have to yell. I hear you perfectly

[1:15:05] clear, actually. So, >> okay.

[1:15:17] » Uh, well, Adam said he has it in his budget, although it would put him right

[1:15:21] up like, you know, there goes the rest of his budget. So, where are you going

[1:15:26] to get it? That is a decision that needs to be Well,

[1:15:30] » would this qualify? >> Uh, that's that's up to the finance

[1:15:34] committee. You can absolutely ask, but it's ultimately their decision.

[1:15:53] Oh. Uh, Jackie made a motion to approve the repair of engine one.

[1:15:59] » Second. >> Sorry, I couldn't hear it.

[1:16:02] » Yeah.

[1:16:05] » Is she voting? >> Did you?

[1:16:07] » Yeah. >> Did you vote?

[1:16:09] » Oh, she just asked if we had any questions.

[1:16:11] » Oh, sorry. >> That's okay. We

[1:16:13] » agree. I >> They're all in favor.

[1:16:17] » Lovely. Thank you. I will keep the cost as low as humanly possible while making

[1:16:24] sure we get the correct work done. >> Procurement law.

[1:16:28] » What's that? >> And you'll follow procurement law.

[1:16:31] » Do we have to for repairs? Does that mean I have to go out and get multiple

[1:16:34] quotes? >> Anything? Oh, yes. Adam, you know the

[1:16:38] answer to that. >> Okay.

[1:16:43] » Now he can't hear me. [laughter] >> Yeah. Sorry, you broke up. You were

[1:16:47] driving through a tunnel. Yeah. Okay. I'll make sure I get multiple quotes.

[1:16:52] » You could just use a contract on state. Never mind. Yep. Thank you.

[1:16:57] » Got it. Yeah, I got you. >> Let folks know that we'll address this

[1:17:03] again. We're have to do

[1:17:07] » uh the audio. >> Jackie just wants everybody to listening

[1:17:10] at home to know that if you cannot if you are one of the ones who are unable

[1:17:15] to hear her or hear any member of the select board, we are aware of it. and we

[1:17:20] will continue to address it. We apologize.

[1:17:27] » I can't dissect it. >> Okay.

[1:17:30] » It actually works great if everything you say Christina just relays. So, it

[1:17:35] might not speed up the meeting at all, but you know, she can just keep doing

[1:17:39] all the talking. [clears throat] >> Sign language works fine though.

[1:17:45] » [laughter] >> You want to try moving the turtle

[1:17:48] closer? >> Not the turtle.

[1:17:50] » Not the turtle. >> Okay.

[1:17:53] » The turtle. >> I wouldn't mess with it during a

[1:17:54] meeting. I would try it afterwards. And do you guys need me for anything

[1:17:59] else other than tech support?

[1:18:05] » Oh, Jackie said she's You're in big trouble. [laughter]

[1:18:10] » That's always implied actually. Yeah. We're going to reach out regarding the

[1:18:15] difference between Encore and this uh for COG bid for the Boston fire

[1:18:20] inspection thing >> during the meeting today or you

[1:18:24] » No, I we'll reach out. >> Okay. Well, all right. Perfect. Okay.

[1:18:28] » Thanks. >> Thanks everyone.

[1:18:30] » Yeah.

[1:18:33] » Okay. >> How you doing?

[1:18:36] » Uh short thing. I don't have much to go over. Uh we had a holiday uh yesterday.

[1:18:42] So today I got all the uh accepted all the bid tribulations for coco for our

[1:18:49] winter salt and or the winter sand and horse sand. So we're all set on

[1:18:55] basically our winter materials that we need for uh this coming winter.

[1:19:02] » We have much left from last year. I'm just curious.

[1:19:04] » What do you mean? >> Any sand left? You always stockpile it

[1:19:08] before the end of the year because material goes up. You always have your

[1:19:13] your shed full. >> So you're starting the year with a full

[1:19:19] sh. >> Yeah. Start a year with a full shed.

[1:19:22] » Okay.

[1:19:27] » And it's already like purchase it. Yep. >> It's all taken care of for last year.

[1:19:33] Okay.

[1:19:37] I ended up having a conversation following up with our roller

[1:19:43] to see where the notice proceeded is from the state so that we can end up

[1:19:50] issuing that to Woods so we can end up getting the ball rolling on that.

[1:19:55] There's still nothing yet, but she said by the end of the week or next week we

[1:20:00] should hear something. So, our roller that we're renting went back to CN Wood.

[1:20:07] I ended up having a conversation with them today. They're trying to charge us

[1:20:10] for a full month. Got that straightened out because we turned it back in on the

[1:20:15] third. So, >> the price should reflect what we

[1:20:19] actually used, you know, our time having it, not

[1:20:23] » the excess. So, she was good with me on that. Uh, the next thing that I ended up

[1:20:29] speaking with Kristen on Friday was about this warp

[1:20:35] program. >> Um, program

[1:20:38] » rap. >> No, no, but I was talking with her about

[1:20:41] that. >> What program?

[1:20:42] » Rap. W >> W R A.

[1:20:45] » Yep. >> Yes.

[1:20:47] » Okay. Um, and in talks about that, how we had the funding for the 161,000 I

[1:20:54] believe that Kelly were all talking about, we got back.

[1:20:58] » So that's in our account right now on our chapter 90 account. We're going to

[1:21:02] utilize it for the next upcoming year. We're not going to chase going back

[1:21:07] previously. Let's just keep going forward and not stepping back. So

[1:21:12] » decided that was the best uh course of action for that. Then she asked if there

[1:21:17] was any projects or anything with um with a winter recovery if we were

[1:21:24] interested in submitting anything. And one thing that came to mind was the uh

[1:21:33] was that canopy. >> Mhm. [clears throat]

[1:21:37] because chapter 90 covers the canopy to end up having

[1:21:44] [clears throat] the span building.

[1:21:47] » Now, this wouldn't be a heated garage. Obviously, this isn't going to have a

[1:21:51] bathroom and running water or even electric.

[1:21:56] » Protect the equipment. >> This one's going to be a 67 by 80.

[1:22:01] » Okay. So I ended up speaking with her and she ended up saying that it actually

[1:22:06] qualifies for that program. So there's

[1:22:11] [clears throat] no commitment of the town. There's no money that we have to

[1:22:15] put up front. So I Friday I just answered the questionnaire and submitted

[1:22:22] the paperwork for this canopy. >> So I already had all the quotes from

[1:22:26] source well from the three quotes. I had all my paperwork sitting in this file

[1:22:32] ready to go as soon as I had time to end up submitting this for chapter 90.

[1:22:40] Um it's the total cost with the block

[1:22:44] foundation is going to be $259,90.

[1:22:50] When she heard that number, she said, "Go for it." Because all the

[1:22:54] applications that she's seeing that people are putting in for projects are

[1:22:59] close to a million or higher. Um, there's $20 million

[1:23:04] that's up for grabs. So, even if we get a slice of that pie, knowing that I can

[1:23:10] end up combining this with chapter 90 so that we can still have that funding in

[1:23:14] the chapter 90 instead of utilizing all of it, it would be good. So,

[1:23:21] we'll end up seeing what happens. What's your thoughts on I seen you?

[1:23:31] » Well, >> this this would be you mean using that

[1:23:37] for the highway. >> Okay.

[1:23:42] » When you said it, there's 20 million that's sitting there that people can

[1:23:46] possibly get. It has to be directly for like sand and salt

[1:23:54] stuff. Yeah. It cannot be >> to build us a highway department.

[1:23:58] » It wouldn't happen. Um so that's this is a sand and salt shed. That's what this

[1:24:04] is for cuz we had issues with ours. We had Jason go up there. The back wall is

[1:24:09] starting to fall. >> Yeah. Um, we put the blocks in there

[1:24:13] just so that we're not pushing on the building so it collapses on the guys

[1:24:17] from when we get our loads of sand and salt delivered. Right now, we have a

[1:24:21] buffer of about 15 ft on the back side of the building that we cleaned all the

[1:24:25] way back to the post and then set mafia blocks all the way. So, it's hollow

[1:24:30] behind it and we have the support so we're not kicking the building out on

[1:24:34] the back cuz right now we had a disconnect of what 4 in almost half a

[1:24:39] foot of the of the 12x 12s are rolling back right now.

[1:24:53] different spot. I left that that spot where they perk tested and where they

[1:24:59] did the site plans where the actual >> safety complex would be. I chose a

[1:25:05] different location that's not being utilized for anything on those plans.

[1:25:10] even the the fuel depot that they were planning to put in up there were

[1:25:14] completely out of the space where they ended up designating the fuel depot to

[1:25:18] be. So, okay, >> I got all the quotes in or the paperwork

[1:25:22] in they requested. I ended up doing the the uh 454 form that they requested and

[1:25:30] for some reason uh

[1:25:34] I don't know yet. She said, "No, no, she she said actually it's going to I don't

[1:25:39] know an exact date, but she said it's going to be towards the end of October."

[1:25:44] So, that's that's the turnaround, but there's no exact date when they're

[1:25:48] actually going to send a letter. Um,

[1:25:53] what's the other part of this?

[1:25:57] » Any clue on how long it takes them to something like that? Uh when I end up

[1:26:02] when I ended up uh having a conversation with Brad Williams from Clearband, which

[1:26:07] has been working with me on the design, they would come in with their crew. They

[1:26:12] build it once we end up setting up the block. So

[1:26:16] we would I would end up working with Jason. We' pull the proper permits that

[1:26:20] are needed. We would end up leveling the surface, compacting the ground, setting

[1:26:24] the uh the mafia blocks, the 2x twox blocks for the foundation. He comes up,

[1:26:32] okay it once he says that it's good to their specs. They have everything

[1:26:37] delivered. They come up, put it up. It takes two days for them to put the whole

[1:26:41] system up. I couldn't believe. >> So they they got a good crew and that's

[1:26:45] all with the prevailing wage uh pay already. All

[1:26:48] » included. All those blocks are all cemented together and

[1:26:53] » nope. They come as 2 by 2x6. Yeah. And then they lock in and then on the actual

[1:26:58] quote they have the uh

[1:27:02] this is the quote for the whole thing. They have the brackets for bracing each

[1:27:10] block together. So to lock it together, that's basically uh would be part of it.

[1:27:16] He did have an estimate number for the blocks, but at the same time, I called

[1:27:21] our local distributor that we end up getting the blocks through, and I got a

[1:27:26] pretty good price on the amount that we needed, and I add that into this packet

[1:27:31] that I submitted on Friday. So, we'll see if we can actually come out on top

[1:27:35] with that.

[1:27:40] It's pretty much a >> It's not really This week was a busy

[1:27:44] week. guys are working up on Shephard Road on Lloyd's cleaning out the

[1:27:48] drainage on that hill. Oh, and chap uh the Grand Central site.

[1:27:56] I had a conversation with Chester and um Chester's secretary at the fair and

[1:28:03] middlefield secretary and they are also having the same issue I'm having. So the

[1:28:09] packets that I end up putting together for mass dot with the 454 and the

[1:28:14] preliminary estimate sheets, I scan it, I put it, I try uploading it or dropping

[1:28:20] it on my computer and it doesn't upload. So just like conversation with Dave

[1:28:24] Stokes, I end up making sure that I submit it to him directly to his email

[1:28:29] » as the single PDF of everything. But it's not just us that are having the

[1:28:34] problem. It's on the state end that's actually having that issue. So Any

[1:28:42] questions for me?

[1:28:56] » Did you decide about the hours for the meeting?

[1:29:02] [clears throat] >> It's called Thank you.

[1:29:06] And we will have

[1:29:11] discussion.

[1:29:25] » Yes.

[1:29:29] » Do you want to do a roll call vote to enter into executive session under the

[1:29:34] description on there? So you have the description right

[1:29:55] yes not to reconvene

[1:30:02] trans says

[1:30:10] Thank you everybody.

Select Board Meeting September 08, 2026

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