[2:03] it's

[2:04] our

[6:12] Harry Bergman

[6:15] is now joining

[6:18] ... Mr Deputy Mayor we are live streaming and recording

[6:23] the Mayor is currently at a Roman delegation but will

[6:26] be joining the meeting a little bit later grasses councillor

[6:30] Sampson

[6:31] thank you Madame clerk with that this is the specialty

[6:34] of council of public meeting for January twenty fourth it's

[6:38] one PM so this is the call to order with

[6:41] that I will turn it back to the clerk for

[6:42] the traditional territory acknowledgement on work

[6:48] we would like to begin our meeting by recognizing the

[6:50] First Nations matey and in what peoples of Canada there's

[6:54] traditional stewards of the land the municipality is located within

[6:57] the boundary of treaty eighteen region of eighteen eighteen which

[7:01] is the traditional land of the honest and I'll be

[7:04] honest only and when that wind up people's

[7:09] thank you Madame clerk will not take a moment of

[7:11] reflection

[7:24] thank you with that ... and quickly take the council

[7:27] member tenets place

[7:30] certainly Mr Deputy Mayor each member could please respond present

[7:33] when their name is called councillor hope

[7:37] councillor mattress tops

[7:46] councillor mattress tops

[7:57] I see that she's join the meeting maybe having technical

[8:02] issues yes we do need councillor Metso's for corneal we

[8:06] ...

[8:08] all I want I'll go down the list and come

[8:11] back thank you okay councillor Sampson as I mentioned is

[8:15] that a delegation will be joining a bit later

[8:18] as as mayor so whatever else you're your own

[8:22] I'm present thank you

[8:25] councillor mattress sauce

[8:31] you muted Andrea

[8:39] councillor mattress tops

[8:41] can you hear can you hear us

[8:49] councillor mattress tops

[8:56] councillor matter stops

[8:59] your muted

[9:04] I'll use I'm just said I'm speakers not working

[9:07] okay so let me just a moment here you see

[9:10] I can

[9:11] so perhaps

[9:14] in the bottom right corner Andrea if you're able to

[9:17] go down

[9:20] to the sound fair and and turn the sound on

[9:31] okay M. councillor matched up is going to restart the

[9:33] computer so just wait a moment Mr Deputy Mayor

[9:37] thank you create I will just ... woods because for

[9:39] a moment before we continue okay great thank you and

[9:43] I will watch for her to to me trying

[9:59] Mr book when I see the join the meeting now

[10:02] three to the comments by telephone

[10:04] and on the computer

[10:07] right now here on the computer

[10:11] okay so you can hang up the telephone

[10:14] can you hear me the okay

[10:18] can you hear me through the computer Lancaster

[10:22] is now exiting

[10:27] Berkman

[10:28] can you hear me through the computer

[10:35] Mr workmen

[10:37] can you hear me through the computer now

[10:48] your mics open Mr Bergman I've just tested just saying

[10:51] hello

[11:00] you had joined the meeting

[11:02] three times I just removed the one connection Mr Deputy

[11:06] Mayor thank you Mr Brookman

[11:11] can you hear me Mr recommends it's not your hand

[11:13] if you can hear me

[11:19] I'm going to send an email thank you

[11:22] and we're just waiting for council match subsystem for the

[11:25] public from where to catch myself restarted technical issues ...

[11:32] we do have a tendency councillors hope your arm and

[11:34] myself and we're just waiting on that councillor not a

[11:37] substitute for

[12:13] councillor matter subs can you hear us now

[12:18] yes thank you now I can hear you okay that's

[12:21] great thanks so much Andrea okay Mr Deputy Mayor I

[12:24] will do another role to ensure of ... just another

[12:27] world right from the start thank you councillor whole present

[12:32] councillor mattress tops present

[12:35] councillor Sampson the Mayor so wherever are absent they will

[12:38] join the meeting a little bit later councillor your own

[12:41] present and and Deputy Mayor boarding L.

[12:45] present thank you in this my apologies for the delay

[12:49] and ... we're ready to start

[12:52] thank you ... we now will want to the approval

[12:54] of the agenda it's recommended the agenda of January twenty

[12:57] fourth twenty twenty to be approved as circulated including any

[13:01] items and added to this agenda ... can I remove

[13:05] and second for that motion to get on the floor

[13:06] placed

[13:09] some of them thank you zero thank you moved by

[13:13] councillor your M. second recount circle ... medlar keep make

[13:16] all that will

[13:20] could you please vote for affirmative for me man clerk

[13:23] will they re open he scrapped thank you I will

[13:26] thank you

[13:31] that was closed

[13:34] motions cared for nothing with all attendance favorite boarding affirmative

[13:37] thank you counsel with that we moved to a for

[13:41] declaration of pecuniary interest and generate for their up

[13:44] no in accordance with misspoke conflict of interest act and

[13:47] the temperature bylaw twenty one dash seventy six sorry twenty

[13:50] twenty one dash seventy six council members must pirate statement

[13:53] of the interest and its general nature with the clerk

[13:56] for inclusion on the registry are there any declarations for

[13:58] this agenda today

[14:01] seeing none of any do arise from the conversation please

[14:04] alert the clerk with that is one away PM we're

[14:08] gonna move into the public meetings

[14:11] under the authority of the missile Oct twenty twenty one

[14:14] in accordance with materials municipal freedom of information and protection

[14:17] of privacy act the corporation the town of blue mounds

[14:20] wishes to inform the public that all information including opinions

[14:24] presentations reports and documentation provided for about a public meeting

[14:29] for public consultation or the public process are considered part

[14:32] of the public record this information may be posted to

[14:35] the town's website and or made available to the public

[14:38] on its request note not pertinent shall be granted for

[14:42] members of the public to provide verbal comments in response

[14:45] to the subject nature of the public meeting is commentator

[14:48] must be limited and speaking to no more than ten

[14:50] minutes at the public meeting a specialist time shall be

[14:54] permitted at the direction of the chair comments will address

[14:57] only those matters that are directly related to the matters

[14:59] for which the public meetings are being held

[15:03] note written submissions received written submissions received by the clerk

[15:06] prior to one PM noon the Friday before the schedule

[15:09] public meeting will be circulated and included in the record

[15:13] of the out of the public meeting all written submissions

[15:16] received in response to a public meeting notice

[15:19] whether received before or after public meeting will be circulated

[15:22] to council for their information in accordance with the town

[15:26] it in accordance with the public meeting comments policy PLLC

[15:30] Ward fifteen dash Europe you will be considered prior to

[15:33] decisions on this matter to which the public meeting is

[15:36] being held

[15:38] we have for today

[15:40] B. one this is a public meeting regarding a site

[15:43] specific zoning bylaw amendment for the property located at one

[15:47] oh seven Hoover late

[15:49] the application process the applicant the application proposes to rezone

[15:54] the subject lands from the open space ... S. own

[15:57] into the residential zone R. one one to prevent single

[16:01] detached residential uses

[16:04] the public meeting is an opportunity for members of the

[16:06] public to learn more about the proposed development the moderate

[16:10] the moderator will keep the meeting in order and allow

[16:12] the applicant the public and members of council to speak

[16:15] and ask questions

[16:16] remember no decisions are being made at this meeting is

[16:19] simply an opportunity to learn and provide feedback please be

[16:22] advised that you must

[16:24] make in writing request if you wish to receive a

[16:26] notice of the decision of council on this proposal

[16:30] person or public body would otherwise have an ability to

[16:34] appeal the decision of council in the blue mountains to

[16:37] the Ontario land tribunal

[16:40] but the person public body does not make oral submissions

[16:42] the public meetings or make written submissions to council before

[16:45] the bylaw is passed the person public body is not

[16:47] entitled to appeal this decision

[16:49] they also may not be added as a party to

[16:52] the hearing of an appeal before the tribunal and less

[16:55] in the opinion of the tribunal there are reasonable grounds

[16:58] to do so

[17:00] so with that Madame clerk I. S. return to you

[17:03] for public comments received ... into your office

[17:08] thank you Mr Deputy Mayor I confirm that notice of

[17:11] this public meeting was given in accordance with the planning

[17:13] act and in response comments have been received

[17:17] council has received the comments in their entirety and what

[17:19] I'm reading right now is just a summary of those

[17:22] thing comments from the county of great given that the

[17:25] uses existing and all new development or change of use

[17:28] is proposed county staff have no significant concerns with the

[17:32] subject application it is recommended that further comments be received

[17:36] from the conservation authority regarding the proximity to to Georgian

[17:39] bay from Kerry Eagleson I am writing to you to

[17:43] support the rezoning application I do have several questions that

[17:46] I would like answered how did the zoning get changed

[17:50] in two thousand eighteen why is it taking so long

[17:52] to correct this problem this is clearly an error and

[17:55] should be corrected immediately the machine of the zoning amendment

[17:59] in the first place from don rate over the years

[18:03] construction of new built around our property and the associated

[18:06] grading changes that was recommend

[18:09] the surrounding lots have significantly raise the ground level and

[18:12] has resulted in an increase in stormwater runoff through our

[18:15] property increased lot ... run walk run up is now

[18:20] joining

[18:22] in an increasing groundwater level the current zoning of the

[18:25] applicant's property being open space does indicate some thoughtful planning

[18:29] for stormwater control my rezoning back to residential the township

[18:34] will in effect removal planning opportunity for stormwater controls in

[18:38] this area and continue to ignore the effects on our

[18:40] property we respectfully request that the township insurers that in

[18:45] rezoning this land the effects of storm water and increased

[18:48] groundwater on our property ... adequate adequately mitigated and that

[18:52] there will be no negative impact where property due to

[18:55] this application and that's it ... Mr chair

[19:00] thank you ... with that I will take it to

[19:03] ... staff to start and then and into council

[19:12] our presentations are planning service development one of seven who

[19:16] were lane ... who's gonna walk us through this

[19:21] ... ... ... I'm going to walk through ... Walker

[19:25] this presentation ... throughout the

[19:28] you wanna call it dawned on me my name's Alexander

[19:30] Graham planner to for the for the town

[19:34] ... so as with that the ball is that this

[19:36] is a public meeting for site specific zoning bylaw amendment

[19:40] for one oh seven moved away

[19:43] our next slide please clean up

[19:46] ... this is that in general information that the application

[19:49] ... the property is owned by Gordon felt heavy and

[19:52] then she did consent ... the town of the blue

[19:55] mountains is actually the applicant missed eight on the order

[19:58] detail will be ... provided on that aspect a little

[20:01] later on the presentation

[20:04] the property is located walk Devin Booker lane which is

[20:06] in the general secretary of AMPA down area ... and

[20:11] the property in question is about twelve hundred square meters

[20:13] in size

[20:15] and next slide please

[20:18] I'm in terms of the application to protest ... there's

[20:22] a few major milestones ... at this point we are

[20:24] at the public meeting stage ... and before there's a

[20:28] decision made by council and there's any bylaw considered by

[20:31] council ... following today's staff are going to complete a

[20:34] more detailed review of the application including the comments received

[20:38] ... as well as throughout the planning documents

[20:43] I think I just

[20:46] they have lost the presentation that

[20:50] critically ill go back to the tournament yeah something's up

[20:53] here there we go thank you thank you

[20:56]

[20:59] staff more than ... prepare reports council ... at this

[21:03] at this point that specific date is undetermined ... but

[21:06] just to highlight there's no decision being made today today

[21:09] is ... the intent of today's is that the pain

[21:12] comments from the public and and council at this application

[21:18] next slide please

[21:21] aerial photo of the subject lands um provide a little

[21:24] bit of contacts of where where the property is that

[21:27] you can tell ... the areas yeah I know the

[21:31] ... generally consider that low density residential uses characterized a

[21:36] single detached dwelling units there has been some ...

[21:41] some redevelopment of this area where number these properties have

[21:45] have undergone a new constructed ... with single detached dwelling

[21:50] units

[21:52] next slide please

[21:56] by the subject property is located within the residential recreational

[22:00] area designation of the town's official plan ... B. R.

[22:03] A. designation is a settlement area ... is generally comports

[22:08] residential uses ... thought of their to you just for

[22:12] a recreational amenity in the area

[22:16] next slide please

[22:20] um so the current zoning on the subject property as

[22:23] open space or the ... Aspell ... and not zone

[22:27] category I'm no buildings or structures that permitted and no

[22:31] residential uses are permitted hence the work pants are the

[22:35] purpose for the zoning in on that

[22:38] our next slide which will provide more detail on that

[22:42] aspect

[22:44] so formally this part of this property was zoned R.

[22:49] street with a small portrait of open space along need

[22:52] this provides both David garden bay there is an amending

[22:55] bylaw is in that and nineteen ninety two ... which

[23:00] rezoned

[23:02] property in order to increase the size are result of

[23:05] the land ... and I was under the former colony

[23:08] bylaw bylaw eighty three forty of the township of calling

[23:12] with ... and not ours rezone permitted a single detached

[23:16] residential dwelling unit ... and it was under those zoning

[23:20] provisions that the existing structure was built ... and and

[23:25] and that at that time did conform with those that

[23:28] those previous felony provisions

[23:31]

[23:33] at the end of the passing of the new comprehensive

[23:35] zoning bylaw and twenty eighteen ... being brought down about

[23:39] twenty eighteen fifty five on this property was rezoned into

[23:43] the open space ... completely into the open space owned

[23:47] allegory ... and at that point the single detached dwelling

[23:51] unit on the lands ... became a legal non conforming

[23:54] use

[23:56] ... at the at this time ... it's proposed that

[24:00] the entirety of the land be rezoned back to the

[24:04] R. one dash one zone in order to recognize the

[24:07] existing dwelling unit and use of the land ... and

[24:11] which is constructed with all the neighboring properties have basically

[24:15] just to put it back into that that residential zone

[24:17] category and I should note that no new developments is

[24:21] proposed that the part of this application it simply to

[24:25] put it back into the original phone category under bylaw

[24:28] eighty three forty ... in doing so would that take

[24:31] away that legal nonconforming use that it would just become

[24:34] a legal conforming yes

[24:39] and that's the ... the summary of a staff presentation

[24:43] hopefully that provides ... some appropriate context so it's it's

[24:47] from the fact that

[24:49] thanks Travis ... with that I will open up to

[24:52] my council colleagues for questions or comments ... doesn't have

[24:56] any questions or comments for Travis at this time

[25:02] that way of thinking ... they're out Travis I'm just

[25:05] gonna ask one so I hate use what housekeeping issue

[25:08] because this is only as the anything but housekeeping but

[25:10] is this

[25:12] is this really more administration than it is change

[25:18] our

[25:19] ... ... I I would jobs the fact that it

[25:22] is exactly that it's more of an administrative ... attraction

[25:26] of that of that building map ... rather than than

[25:30] any actual physical change on the property

[25:33] thank you ... with that there's ... make colleagues have

[25:38] any other questions for Travis

[25:42] and Madame clerk you have ... you have gone through

[25:44] all the ... public comments correct

[25:48] that's correct Mister chair and I confirm that and no

[25:50] one has registered to speak at today's public meeting

[25:55] thank you ... with that I believe we can close

[25:58] off B. one Madame clerk

[26:01] that's correct Mister chair thank you thank you with that

[26:04] we ... we have three more on the agenda today

[26:06] ... B. two which is a public meeting revisions to

[26:11] the sale or other deposit deposition of land policy that's

[26:15] P. O. L. C. or zero seven zero two

[26:19] what is being proposed staff are recommending repealing replacing the

[26:22] current sailing deposition of land policy P. O. L. C.

[26:26] O. R. zero seven zero two two include revisions that

[26:29] will make the process clearer and more efficient the revised

[26:33] draft policy and supporting process supports council's direction not to

[26:37] consider any request to sell town owned waterfront property staff

[26:41] are suggesting there were land as been identified as road

[26:44] allowance street lane way fairly or is of the sizes

[26:50] deemed not to be building lot actually registered on title

[26:54] and there shall be no future requests for building permits

[26:56] or vacancies considered for subject lands because it because of

[27:00] it being acquired from the town to protect the overall

[27:04] feel and character of the local area the current policy

[27:07] allows for exclusions for land formerly used for railway lines

[27:12] staff suggested that this reference to be removed and the

[27:14] land that was formerly a railway line in most cases

[27:18] is currently with alignment of the Georgian trail

[27:21] for the exception of the sections of the trail that

[27:23] have an existing realignment staff recommend that no sale of

[27:27] these lands that be part of the former railway line

[27:30] shall be considered for potential disposition or surpluses for the

[27:33] foreseeable future town staff recommend a process where twice a

[27:38] year consideration may be brought forward to consider land surplus

[27:42] with the purpose

[27:44] being to dispose of land from the town's current land

[27:47] inventory

[27:54] we cannot start by about employers as a without interacting

[27:58] with the clerk

[28:00] thank you ... I just wanted to make mention that

[28:03] notice of this public meeting has been given in accordance

[28:06] with our notice policy in response comments have been received

[28:10] I confirm that all the comments received were circulated to

[28:13] council in their entirety and what it I'm reading right

[28:15] now is just a summary of those seen comments

[28:19] I'm Paul Graham and Sally leopard we are in support

[28:22] of the provision to prohibit the sale of publicly owned

[28:25] let owned waterfront lands being road allowances etcetera the town

[28:29] has a scarcity of publicly accessible waterfront lands considering the

[28:33] extent of our shore line thus protecting the what the

[28:36] lands we have is vital the town is encouraged not

[28:40] only to protect the lands we all but to develop

[28:42] a water front acquisition policy in order to take advantage

[28:45] of extending public access to the waterfront when opportunities arise

[28:50] thank you for the opportunity to provide our comments from

[28:53] John roar with respect to the public meeting to be

[28:56] held on January twenty fourth at one PM I have

[28:59] two questions with two parts as they relate to adjoining

[29:02] owners that have joined town owned lands described as a

[29:06] stopped up non traveled road allowance that may be deemed

[29:10] surplus these may have been stopped up and close but

[29:13] it joined both residential and employment lands currently my driveway

[29:18] and garage is at the end of a stocked up

[29:21] non traveled road allowance stopped up stopped up post op

[29:26] motion is also stopped off close our motion to in

[29:31] two in a row allowance on the other side the

[29:34] services access to employment lands the full length of my

[29:37] property adjoins a non traveled road allowance my driveway has

[29:41] utilized this non travel road allowance since the nineteen fifties

[29:45] as a provides access to my garage which is at

[29:48] the end of the non travel grow allowance question number

[29:52] one eight with the surplus lands be considered a joining

[29:57] to commercial lands where the residential I'm traveled road loan

[30:00] stoppage is located where employment or I see I land

[30:03] begins and B. what guidelines are are being discussed that

[30:08] prevented commercial purchaser from acquiring surplus lands in a residential

[30:13] zone and

[30:14] using them as an access road to the employment lands

[30:17] question number two

[30:19] eight I have been steward of the land since I

[30:22] moved to the area in two thousand fifteen what liabilities

[30:26] what I face if the appraised value of this land

[30:28] is deemed unaffordable and another purchases that being if another

[30:33] purchases this property when I lose my access to my

[30:36] driveway and garage thank you for taking the time to

[30:38] respond to my questions from Allison mackenzie as an adjoining

[30:43] landowner to a possible disposition of a road allowance I'm

[30:47] wondering about the possibility of a first right of refusal

[30:49] to purchase this land I would also like to ask

[30:52] whether the flow chart included in this file is representative

[30:56] of how things are going to proceed in the future

[30:58] alright this is the past flowchart and Mister chair ...

[31:01] Heery Burkman also provided comments Mr Bergman is on the

[31:05] line so I will leave it to Mr Bergman to

[31:08] provide those comments you may be having some technical ...

[31:11] difficulties with the sound that we'll see if you can

[31:13] provide those comments or questions thank you Karina Mr Bergman

[31:17] can you hear us

[31:20] you can you hear me now go to your telephone

[31:23] it's just big through the phone there you go

[31:27] no that's that's worse

[31:30] maybe in your microphone on the computer Mr Bergman

[31:40] while he's doing that Mister chair ... if you wanted

[31:44] to go to the town presentation Shawn Everett CA ...

[31:47] he has a presentation

[31:49] to provide where we owe to the public actually all

[31:51] right ... thank you so with that ... Mr Brookman

[31:55] well your figure that out where to go to R.

[31:58] C. A. O. Sean Everitt Sean Doherty

[32:03] thank you at Deputy Mayor aboard you know

[32:08] if you can go to the next slide yeah

[32:11] so just a bit of an overview of how we

[32:14] got here ... we broader brought forward a ... ...

[32:18] report in November first of twenty twenty one I would

[32:21] line ... the ability for us to move for with

[32:24] this public meeting ... which shall over the Christmas break

[32:28] identified the January the twenty fourth is being ... today

[32:32] being that the date for the public meeting next light

[32:37] as you can see the

[32:42] public notice in the approval process ... we've all the

[32:44] required public notice ... ... process ... with some additional

[32:50] time being provide it and ... looking towards ... report

[32:55] coming back to council ... with follow up to this

[32:59] public meeting ... that would be at anticipating February the

[33:02] fifteenth and if all goes well and we're able to

[33:06] provide the information for council we would see the ...

[33:10] of the March twenty eighth ... council are considering the

[33:12] recommendations from the March fifteenth committee of the whole next

[33:16] slide

[33:19] the key things that ... we want to identify through

[33:22] this ... public meeting is first that we already have

[33:25] an existing land disposition of Policy but thought it would

[33:29] be appropriate time to have of some ... ... revisions

[33:34] review completed ... we're seeing over the last number of

[33:38] years a definite intake ... opted to the number of

[33:41] requests for ... potential disposition of lands from a residence

[33:46] ... council had made it very clear ... decision and

[33:50] recommendation ... for us not to for staff not to

[33:54] consider town water front properties as being surplus this ...

[34:00] ... staff is moving forward with that same understanding that

[34:04] ... water front access that would not be considered for

[34:07] ... disposition of lands I think one of the key

[34:10] areas and and some of the comments received thus far

[34:13] to the public in regards to the road allowance in

[34:16] the streets and laneways and fire lanes ... there is

[34:19] a lot of work and I think some additional explanation

[34:21] that we're happy to provide through the follow up to

[34:24] the public meeting these are actually the areas that you

[34:27] know we're very interested in and having further discussions with

[34:30] council just to consider ... on our on a regular

[34:34] and very consistent basis how we deal with these ...

[34:38] ... these types of properties where they may be a

[34:40] stopped up in close around on open road allowance or

[34:43] fire lane ... we feel that the municipality is in

[34:46] a position where we would like to get the clarity

[34:48] and consistency of how we deal with these on a

[34:51] regular basis ... and one of the key things in

[34:55] this goes back a number of years ago the protection

[34:57] of the Jordan trail is as critical and one of

[35:00] one of the things that we believe that should be

[35:02] in the disposition of land policy very clearly is that

[35:05] no areas within the Georgian trail will be considered a

[35:09] surplus in the future ... just for the clarity in

[35:12] and again the consistency for individuals who may wish to

[35:16] ... make that request

[35:18] it would be ... very ... very handy for staff

[35:21] to be able to just clearly state that the lands

[35:24] that ... affect the Jordan trail would not be considered

[35:28] ... the other key thing which is that we thought

[35:31] it was was a good idea was to be able

[35:34] to bring the council twice per year there the request

[35:37] for this positions of land so ... that way we

[35:41] could be doing in a very consistent and transparent ...

[35:44] method where ... council would be considering any disposition of

[35:49] land are as a group as opposed to one office

[35:52] the other one of us are very you know

[35:56] they're fine but for council to be able to take

[35:59] a look on a regular basis of any request in

[36:02] a very ... consistent manner I think would be very

[36:05] beneficial ... just when you start consideration are considering where

[36:09] potential lands could be declared surplus

[36:14] the next slide thank you grant ... the appraisals for

[36:17] specific types of land and we're very very clear that

[36:20] not these would not be for building a redevelopment properties

[36:24] we believe that there is the ... a benefit to

[36:28] getting appraisals done for our ... certain types of lands

[36:32] whether or not there be per per meter per square

[36:36] meter per ... that could be wrong allowances or we

[36:39] could just simply say this is this these these appraisals

[36:43] would actually create the minimum bets um so we were

[36:46] to go out and say you know this road allowance

[36:49] I don't run allowance that's been stopped up in close

[36:52] that it meets all the requirements as we went through

[36:55] a public process public consultation process we could just simply

[36:59] say based on the appraised value this is the minimum

[37:02] bid ... ... we have seen in the past where

[37:06] you know trying to do the appraisals as we go

[37:10] ...

[37:12] it it it becomes very very ... time ... time

[37:17] management sort of gets thrown out the window because it

[37:19] is it is sometimes very hard from a timeliness to

[37:23] get appraisals done so this would just allow us to

[37:25] move the process through from appraisal process the one key

[37:29] thing that I do want to make very clear through

[37:30] this disposition of land policy is that this is only

[37:34] the process for council to be brought forward a recommendation

[37:39] to consider lands surplus this does not replace the public

[37:45] consultation process so that's still process staff could come forward

[37:49] to council and suggest three or four different piece of

[37:53] the property is being concise being able to be considered

[37:57] for this position

[37:59] if council so where's the would still require ... staff

[38:03] would still require council approval to initiate the actual public

[38:06] consultation process so I know that there is a there

[38:10] is a fear that this would ... maybe replace that

[38:13] does not replace it all this just to simply allows

[38:16] us to get the subject matter in front of council

[38:19] if council wished to for most for staff to initiate

[38:22] the public process to then consider lands surplus dot public

[38:27] process would still take place and council with that and

[38:31] with the benefit of hearing from the public and local

[38:33] residents of whether or not they believe it's a good

[38:36] idea to sell land that process is still in place

[38:41] the next slide

[38:44] so next steps is ... we we plan on on

[38:47] receiving ... reviewing the public comments that have been received

[38:51] ... and then provide a follow up report we've identified

[38:55] February the fifteenth ... to bring up a follow up

[38:58] report back to committee the hall ... and some of

[39:02] the ... the comments that we've received to date R.

[39:05] one R. wanna thank the public for providing those ...

[39:08] they acted they have provided some good additional insight for

[39:11] staff to be able to go back and ... and

[39:15] review ... those comments and also provide the clarity that

[39:18] ... the cap and that the public can council's looking

[39:21] for thank you for that

[39:25] thank you shot

[39:27] ... with that before I go to the council and

[39:30] see if Mr Bergman is ...

[39:35] it is available for his comment

[39:38] can you run with you your

[39:42] Mr back when are you able to hear style yes

[39:46] on the tele yes we can are you through the

[39:49] telephone that's great okay with apologies sorry ... I bought

[39:53] a new computer a week ago and I'm having trouble

[39:56] connecting to teams ... might sound ... I can see

[40:01] that ... I'm there ... video Weiss ...

[40:05] I have no substantial ... issues with that what is

[40:10] proposed ... what I do note and I've sent a

[40:14] letter is that the official policy only does half of

[40:21] what the province intense and the province by the Municipal

[40:26] actors established that the municipality shall have an official policy

[40:32] that deals with sales and other dispositions of land

[40:38] and if one looks through the existing policy

[40:42] dating back to two thousand and eight it only deals

[40:46] with sales it doesn't deal with other dispositions of land

[40:51] although which entitles sale and other dispositions of land ...

[40:57] I provided a ... a copy of the existing policy

[41:03] and ... I'm uncertain effect can be showing online and

[41:08] I will ... to show ... by color highlighting exactly

[41:13] what I'm referring to is is that possible

[41:18] Mr it

[41:20] thank you so the comments that that Mr Bergman's sent

[41:23] and they were circulated to council in their entirety we

[41:27] don't we have the policy here in front of us

[41:28] but we don't have is highlighted document in front of

[41:31] us oh okay well alright then then we'll proceed so

[41:36] you can see the subject title on page one of

[41:38] sailing of the disposition of land ... the policy direction

[41:42] is the sale another disposition of land the application of

[41:47] the bottom line refers to the sale and other disposition

[41:50] of land but then when we had two pages to

[41:54] through the conclusion there are no more references to other

[41:58] dispositions of laughter it's all sales that's what happens if

[42:02] you sell ... the same with the current with the

[42:07] proposed new policy ... it is called the policy for

[42:11] the sale of and disposition of land but it only

[42:15] deals with sales and so one would ask for what

[42:19] is other disposition of land well it would include at

[42:23] least it would include a ... a license it would

[42:27] include a right of way it would include a permit

[42:31] so there are so many ways that one can actually

[42:36] ... have a transaction with respect to lamb that is

[42:39] not a sales so what is happening here is the

[42:43] town ... and I believe this happened sort of inadvertently

[42:47] dating back to prior to two thousand and eight ...

[42:51] has only concerned itself with sales but you no one

[42:55] can the end and by the way I I don't

[42:58] know offhand where to locate the registry of town owned

[43:04] lands according to this document it's supposed to be a

[43:07] public document but when I go to the ... the

[43:10] website I I can't locate it but the town owns

[43:14] land and road allowances and rapes and throughout the ...

[43:19] is

[43:20] its geographic boundaries and ... there are future developments ...

[43:28] both for the infrastructure and ... you know residential ...

[43:34] in the prospect and the town can basically circumvent all

[43:39] these policies are for sale by simply leasing the lands

[43:45] giving a right away over the lands giving a right

[43:48] to occupy the lands giving a license for the lands

[43:52] so in that regard ... this policy is is basically

[43:57] half good it doesn't cover half of what the municipal

[44:01] act says that it's supposed to cover and ... ...

[44:06] it's an easy oversight but there are too many transactions

[44:10] that can possibly happen going forward ... for ... you

[44:15] know such an oversight to be allowed to continue it

[44:18] also is

[44:20] strictly speaking in violation of the municipal act requirements I'm

[44:25] at a few comments that I did make ... in

[44:28] my letter with respect to what is proposed ... the

[44:33] ... number one was the word ... best use ...

[44:39] as a modifier of fair market value ... I I

[44:44] I I I realize this is the thorny issue and

[44:47] it's very difficult ... but ... in one place the

[44:50] proposed new policy says that they will be ... ...

[44:54] potentially requesting a best use fair market value appraisal well

[45:03] we'll be ... ... that that that will be an

[45:06] interesting challenge ... you know to obtain exactly that appraisal

[45:12] I understand the the the complexity ... is there there

[45:17] is we're doing and the ... ... you know that

[45:22] the public benefit may be considered ... but in my

[45:25] letter I basically ask what is the best use for

[45:29] a piece of property that could potentially be a park

[45:33] or a beach is at a park or a beach

[45:36] or is it a ... commercial subdivision

[45:40] and ... recently I was ... ... in ... southern

[45:45] Ontario town driving along and I noticed all these beautiful

[45:48] beach fronts and very expensive ... you know subdivision country

[45:53] and ... and that thought that came to my mind

[45:57] ... there is an out clause one G. of the

[46:01] procedures of the ... sorry clause one a of the

[46:06] procedures ... and that deals with requests and I believe

[46:11] it's just the sort of garbled for lack of a

[46:15] better description request may be received and considered twice per

[46:18] year and that it goes on to say formal requests

[46:22] will be submitted to the town via a formal request

[46:25] for consideration

[46:27] by individuals groups and our corporations or number company now

[46:35] ... I I don't know what's meant by that does

[46:38] the town have corporations and a number company that can

[46:42] be making requests or is it just basically a a

[46:45] clause that needs to be ... ... we worked hard

[46:50] because as it stands it sounds like the town's corporations

[46:54] maybe making requests to buy town owned land but that

[46:58] doesn't make sense so ... just to a tiny issue

[47:03] and then the final thought I had was ... in

[47:06] the timing clause under proposed call us proposed policy clause

[47:11] one G. it refers depending council direction to to clear

[47:16] the town owned lands surplus staff may proceed with the

[47:21] disposition of town owned land and follow the process outlined

[47:25] and I I do believe that the intention is that

[47:30] ... council would direct before staff proceeds with the any

[47:37] disposition ... so other than that ... might be ...

[47:42] a better comments are in my letter and if you

[47:46] can turn your attention when you have a chance to

[47:49] the color highlighted versions of the existing policy on the

[47:53] current policy you'll notice thank thanks means sale and you'll

[47:59] notice in those pages where they're at the highlighting is

[48:01] just paying there is no green meaning for other dispositions

[48:07] so ... I'm available to my attorney questions you may

[48:10] wish to ask

[48:12] thank you Mr Bergman ... during during the the public

[48:16] section ... we'll take that take the notes in from

[48:18] from yourself and ... there's normally not back forth on

[48:22] the on the on the public comments section but I

[48:25] know I saw our CEO us writing notes as you're

[48:28] going along ... for that process most definitely ... so

[48:32] Sean if you wanna comment on that

[48:34] thank you W. more Deputy Mayor working out I wanna

[48:37] thank ... misprint for forced comments I will ensure that

[48:41] those comments and the review of his document ... are

[48:45] part of the ... report follow up report to the

[48:49] public being great points ... you know very helpful ...

[48:53] from from the perspective of of this sale as compared

[48:57] to the lease ... and the license in the right

[49:01] way comments so those ... those points will be ...

[49:04] included in the next ... follow up report and ...

[49:08] ... I would suggest that we may I may actually

[49:11] retired at some point during the drafting of that report

[49:13] to ... Mr Bergman just to make sure that we're

[49:16] on the right page so ... very very very helpful

[49:19] comments are being received thank you

[49:24] yes thank you Mr Bergman the very very clear and

[49:25] concise comments and ... you know if if that's okay

[49:28] with you than I do the sale may reach out

[49:31] to you well is drafting its report if that's alright

[49:33] with you

[49:35] yes it is thank you

[49:37] thank you very much for your comments Mr Bergman boy

[49:39] were received ... with that man clerk I see councillor

[49:43] Sampson has joined the meeting if you want to reflect

[49:45] that in the minutes

[49:46] and

[49:48] and with that ... I will go to the counsel

[49:52] table for questions for Mister Everett ... before we go

[49:56] back to the other comments so with that ...

[50:00] council colleagues of my questions for

[50:03] for Sean press CEO

[50:06] archer has presentation

[50:11] any comments relating to the the policy

[50:15] that we have in front of this

[50:19] all right ... seeing none madam clerk of any public

[50:21] I'm sorry R. all comments have been received and read

[50:26] that's right ... Mr chair all comments have been read

[50:29] Mr Brookman provided his comments ... verbally so I did

[50:33] not read his his correspondence thank you

[50:37] thank you and Mister Berger that has been distributed to

[50:39] all staff as well as anybody's in writing

[50:42] so what that meant clerk I can close off ...

[50:45] B. two thank you to all the people that have

[50:49] responded and I just wanna make sure that ...

[50:52] M. weather's questions and comments to come in that staff

[50:56] and I know that is this ... just want to

[50:57] say that they will be they will be addressed and

[50:59] sent back out to ... when when people did ask

[51:01] questions part as part of their correspondence to the proper

[51:04] department will reach out a business six years ago greetings

[51:08] it's good is one but the comment there think you

[51:10] ... with that amount of parking not sure if that

[51:14] matters here yet so I can continue on to be

[51:16] three ... with the addition of our councillor Sampson

[51:20] ... B. three is revisions to the corporate hiring of

[51:23] employees policy peel L. C. O. R. zero seven zero

[51:28] six what is being proposed staff recommended repealing replacing the

[51:33] current hiring of employees policy P. O. L. C. O.

[51:36] R. zero seven zero six to include revisions that will

[51:39] provide efficiencies to the current recruitment and selection process recommendations

[51:43] and revisions will include updates to employee status definition to

[51:47] provide more clarity on permanent temporary and seasonal employment types

[51:52] additional statement on legislative requirements under the human Ontario merry

[51:56] parkland

[51:58] is now exiting and accessibility for Ontarians with disabilities act

[52:03] twenty oh five and how the town complies with the

[52:07] integrated standards regulation removing barriers Director current process upon hire

[52:12] additional statement the unionized positions we posted in accordance with

[52:15] the collective agreement

[52:18] and for updates job posting and advertising timelines requirements that

[52:22] incorporate new strategies and flexibility to allow staff to be

[52:24] more responsive staffing needs they can in that consistently changing

[52:29] and competitive labor market

[52:32] so with that man clerk ... I will have any

[52:36] comments been around with that bit been received from the

[52:38] public thank you Mr chair I can permit notice of

[52:42] this public meeting was given in accordance with the town's

[52:44] notice policy in response no comments have been received and

[52:49] Serra trainer of the manager of HR is here to

[52:52] provide a presentation

[52:54] welcome Sir and thank you all turn the Mike over

[52:56] to you for your presentation

[52:58] thank you and good afternoon and so you can go

[53:01] to next slide please greener thank you so ... in

[53:06] terms of where we are today following direction from council

[53:09] at the twenty nine November twenty ninth meeting and stuff

[53:12] about the draft hiring employees policy to this public meeting

[53:16] to receive comments as required under the town's noticed policy

[53:20] and next slide

[53:23] thank you so this just gives an overview of the

[53:26] process we've taken today to ensuring adequate notice of the

[53:29] public meeting has been provided and from this meeting that

[53:33] timeline by which will report back to committee and council

[53:36] the recommendations and implied that we received next please

[53:43] all right so I'm next couple slices give ... overview

[53:47] of the prize River I'm sorry revised revisions to the

[53:52] policy and we'll go through all that is it a

[53:54] provisions but I'll just highlight it use the staff are

[53:58] recommending strength strengthening the language regarding legislative requirements on the

[54:03] Ontario human rights code in accommodating employees and accessibility through

[54:07] the recruitment process as well as updating some definitions to

[54:11] provide a bit more clarity regarding employment status ... we've

[54:15] also enhanced our internal process for hiring managers to initiate

[54:19] the recruitment process uniforms ... we've also added some language

[54:23] ... just around the improper influencing our permanent selection decisions

[54:28] and that's with just within the consequences for non compliance

[54:30] section

[54:32] in the next slide please all right so most of

[54:35] the recommended revisions are around job posting and advertising of

[54:40] positions and really the intent is to incorporate new strategy

[54:44] and the bucs ability to allow staff to be more

[54:46] responsive and nimble to developing conditions while ensuring ... a

[54:51] fair consistent and transparent hiring process and what is very

[54:55] much at competitive labor market

[54:58] the some of those suggest revisions include reducing the number

[55:01] of

[55:02] business days a position would be posted for so from

[55:05] ten to five business days ... and there would be

[55:09] still that option or if the hiring manager to extend

[55:13] our that post hosting if they felt it was necessary

[55:16] ... allowing for temporary contract contracts of any duration to

[55:21] be posted internally first and that would just give her

[55:25] employees priority consideration for these opportunities so to promote career

[55:29] development cross training assists with succession planning and provide opportunity

[55:33] for employees to take on some special work assignment

[55:37] and another suggest revision and again in an effort to

[55:40] promote employees from within and retain our greats

[55:44] yeah if a temporary position becomes permanent so whether that

[55:47] be through the budget process or ... incumbent not returning

[55:50] from a leave of absence an employee in a temporary

[55:53] role would be placed in a permanent position with out

[55:56] of competition subject to acceptable performance ... and the director's

[56:01] approval

[56:03] and next slide please

[56:07] so those there again just some overview an overview of

[56:10] some of the proposed revisions and in terms of next

[56:13] steps ... doppler view public comment that we received I

[56:18] had to date ... and any suggestion that we received

[56:22] from council during this public meeting hi as well including

[56:26] some of the comments that we did receive at the

[56:28] November twenty third street home meeting as well and then

[56:31] the report will be brought forward February fifteenth committee of

[56:35] the whole meeting

[56:37] addicts thank you and all of minutes any comments or

[56:40] questions that

[56:41] council may have

[56:43] thank you Sir ... for the presentation with that ...

[56:46] the floor is open to the council colleagues for questions

[56:50] for our human resources department in relation to this new

[56:53] policy change

[56:56] are there any questions for Sir

[57:02] not seeing any site just of it jabber quick when

[57:04] ... I assume that ... because there the tighter competitive

[57:08] market and a lot of these changes are being made

[57:10] and ... I assume that ... from people you compete

[57:13] against are making similar changes

[57:18] but it hasn't been a discussion within the HR network

[57:22] but again we are trying to really justify their own

[57:25] process then and where we can be more competitive responsive

[57:29] ... at was really ... weren't an internal process soliciting

[57:33] feedback from hiring interested to make these recommended changes

[57:37] good to know thank you ... without announcing any other

[57:40] questions ... Madame clerk over you any that would close

[57:45] the public comments correct that's correct Mister chair no additional

[57:49] public comments regarding agenda item be three

[57:52] thank you with that we can close off the three

[57:55] and ...

[57:57] as I have not seen the merit believe still a

[58:01] conference I will continue on with B. for madam clerk

[58:05] ...

[58:07] with regard to your vision substantial bylaw at twenty twenty

[58:11] one seventy six as it relates to timelines associate with

[58:13] the release of agendas what is being proposed the blue

[58:18] mountains council will be holding a public meeting to receive

[58:20] comments on the proposed changes of the procedure bylaw twenty

[58:23] twenty one dash seventy six as it relates to timelines

[58:26] associated with the release of objectives number one move the

[58:31] timeline for the release of agendas to Monday at three

[58:33] PM one week in advance of the meeting from the

[58:36] current Wednesday at three PM five days in advance of

[58:39] the meeting

[58:41] to move the deadline for submission of correspondence or a

[58:44] deputation request to Friday at nine AM ten days in

[58:48] advance of the meeting from the current Monday at nine

[58:51] AM one week in advance of the meeting

[58:54] and number three is move the deadline for submission of

[58:57] correspondence or deputations following the release of an agenda to

[59:01] Wednesday at twelve noon five days in advance of the

[59:04] meeting my current Friday twelve noon three days in advance

[59:07] of the meeting

[59:09] doesn't close changes ... without Madame clerk will turn it

[59:11] over to you for public comments received

[59:15] thank you Mr chair notice of this public meeting was

[59:18] given in accordance with the town's notice policy in response

[59:21] to comments have been received the first being a from

[59:25] the ... communications advisory committee ... their motion is as

[59:30] follows where's the committees what supports the earlier release of

[59:34] gender and agenda items and where's the public has been

[59:37] following the existing agenda released process for the last ten

[59:40] years the communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline to

[59:45] provide deputations any correspondence from the public remain the same

[59:49] being Monday at nine AM

[59:51] and from Blue Mountain ratepayers association this is from Terry

[59:55] Keller I read the comments now I'm Terry Keller in

[1:00:00] my comments on behalf of myself and the Blue Mountain

[1:00:02] ratepayers association I am currently on that board we support

[1:00:06] the proposal to move the release of the agenda as

[1:00:09] from Wednesday to the Monday being seven days before the

[1:00:12] meetings this move will give ratepayers who may have an

[1:00:15] interest or concern with an item on and that any

[1:00:18] agenda and earlier opportunity to research research and prepare however

[1:00:23] the proposed date for the submission of correspondence or deputation

[1:00:27] if the taxpayer is to respond to a concern remains

[1:00:30] at forty five hours after the agendas publication and our

[1:00:34] experience forty five hours is not adequate to research consult

[1:00:38] and to prepare proper response members of committees of the

[1:00:42] blue route repairs Association have always struggled with and sometimes

[1:00:45] fail to meet the short timeline would it be possible

[1:00:48] to have the deadline at nine AM on the Friday

[1:00:51] prior to the meeting

[1:00:53] as volunteers we have neither managers nor staff to handle

[1:00:56] the work and so we must budget our time many

[1:00:59] interested citizens have working families and often the research and

[1:01:02] preparation must be accomplished in the evenings we feel that

[1:01:06] this would encourage more more participation by taxpayers worth both

[1:01:11] working and retired the process can be intimidating and the

[1:01:15] average citizen it made it takes time to find out

[1:01:18] what the process is and to work through it participation

[1:01:21] in a democracy is everyone's right and this is just

[1:01:24] the role should allow that participation to be easy and

[1:01:27] achievable please consider this recommendation as it comes from the

[1:01:30] extensive experience of art association and that's it Mr chair

[1:01:36] thank you Madame clerk and thank you to the communications

[1:01:39] the treasury committee as well as ...

[1:01:42] Terry and ... the PMR A. for their comments without

[1:01:45] a water bacteriophage station Madame clerk thank you Mr chair

[1:01:51] so I have a small presentation just to go over

[1:01:54] the proposed changes

[1:01:56] I'm on the second slide you'll see um we received

[1:01:59] a direction from council to move forward with the public

[1:02:02] meeting at today to ... provide ... to allow the

[1:02:06] public an opportunity to provide their comments in response to

[1:02:09] the proposed changes

[1:02:12] the next slide shows of the public notice and approval

[1:02:15] process we received that ... council direction we advertised on

[1:02:20] in the newspaper and on the town's website we ...

[1:02:24] received correspondence interest in response being two comments

[1:02:29] ... if the depending on on how many comments are

[1:02:33] received to date I'm hoping to provide a follow up

[1:02:36] report to the public meeting ... to the committee of

[1:02:39] the whole meeting on February the first

[1:02:42] and recommendations from February first maybe the whole will be

[1:02:45] considered by council on February the fourteenth

[1:02:49] she was gonna do a short overview of the proposed

[1:02:52] revisions

[1:02:54] so

[1:02:55] the proposed revisions are the deputation requesting correspondences are to

[1:03:00] be included on the council committee the whole agenda must

[1:03:02] be received by the clerk's office by nine AM on

[1:03:05] the Friday being ten days in advance of the subject

[1:03:07] meeting

[1:03:09] council committee the whole agendas are released by three on

[1:03:12] the Monday prior to accounts or committee of the whole

[1:03:14] meeting this will be our one week in advance of

[1:03:17] the meeting

[1:03:19] following the recent release of the agenda as the public

[1:03:21] will have until noon on the Wednesday evening five days

[1:03:24] in advance just a minute Deputy shore Custer correspondence in

[1:03:28] response to any matter that's included on the agenda on

[1:03:30] an agenda at the in the council or committee of

[1:03:33] the whole

[1:03:35] the revised council committees will agenda is released by the

[1:03:38] end of the day Wednesday five days in advance of

[1:03:41] the kit councillor committee of the whole meeting

[1:03:45] and on the following the next page I've done a

[1:03:47] bit of a a summary just to show the current

[1:03:50] in the proposed deadlines

[1:03:53] what you'll see is an example of the deadlines as

[1:03:56] it relates to the January thirty first council and February

[1:03:59] first committee of the whole meeting so the first bulleted

[1:04:02] item ... the so anyone that wants to appear as

[1:04:06] a deputation earth provide comments or correspondence to council of

[1:04:11] the current deadline is Monday January twenty fourth at nine

[1:04:14] AM the proposed deadline would go to the Friday January

[1:04:17] twenty first at nine AM

[1:04:20] the council committee the whole package is released the current

[1:04:23] deadline is Wednesday January twenty six the proposed deadline would

[1:04:28] be Monday January twenty fourth

[1:04:32] once that packages released ... that often he also will

[1:04:36] be aware of the public will receive a package and

[1:04:40] they'll say ... I would like to submit deputation request

[1:04:43] or correspondence in response to an item that's included on

[1:04:46] the agenda so that deadline will move from the Friday

[1:04:49] immediately before the meeting to the Wednesday being five days

[1:04:53] in advance from the from the current three days in

[1:04:56] advance

[1:04:58] and then the revised agenda including all additional deputations and

[1:05:02] correspondence currently the deadline if it's released by end of

[1:05:06] day Friday now we'll go to Wednesday January twenty six

[1:05:10] days that

[1:05:13] I believe rob since

[1:05:16] is that question

[1:05:19] yeah really just just your summary amount parking then we'll

[1:05:21] go to council sense okay thank you ... and next

[1:05:25] steps counts ... staff will review the public comments and

[1:05:28] council's comments and bring forward at a follow up report

[1:05:31] for council consideration if it fits council's desire we will

[1:05:36] pass that a by law to amend the procedural

[1:05:40] I can answer any questions

[1:05:42] thank you Madame clerk ... I believe that should be

[1:05:45] February first twenty twenty two cal football sorry thank you

[1:05:50] no problem ... with that I will turn it over

[1:05:52] to the counsel table and I can sense and because

[1:05:55] it's virtual end up near ... Bravo at

[1:05:59] yes thank

[1:06:00] you're going up so what would be the fix them

[1:06:03] to the point that Terry raise I guess it would

[1:06:06] be going back to the Friday is that is that

[1:06:08] the fix it would fix the concerns done so and

[1:06:13] thank you through you Mr chair so concern raised by

[1:06:17] Keller implement ratepayers association was this the span of time

[1:06:21] between when the package goes out so currently the package

[1:06:25] goes out on the Wednesday and anyone wanting to submit

[1:06:28] a correspondence or deputation in response to an item on

[1:06:31] the agenda what would have until the Friday so that

[1:06:34] would be from Wednesday at potentially three and tell Friday

[1:06:39] at noon so what I'm proposing is is moving those

[1:06:42] dates back two days old the package what Monday they

[1:06:47] would have until Wednesday noon so ... Mr Keller is

[1:06:51] asking if we could continue the deadline being a Friday

[1:06:56] so they would have until from Monday when the package

[1:06:59] is released so the Friday at noon to provide that

[1:07:03] additional deputation there or correspondence to be added to ...

[1:07:08] to the package the concern I have with that

[1:07:12] is that

[1:07:14] when we receive the follow up visit deputies request a

[1:07:17] follow up correspondence what happens is we receive that the

[1:07:21] package goes out Friday afternoon it includes it could include

[1:07:25] a number of deputations could include a number of number

[1:07:29] of additional correspondences then

[1:07:32] eight trigger sometimes others wishing to provide additional comments and

[1:07:36] when we meet on Monday morning at nine AM I

[1:07:40] monitor my my emails all weekend so that council has

[1:07:43] the most up to date information and comments in response

[1:07:47] so I do as council's aware I'm I'm often replying

[1:07:51] over the weekend to provide council with that information because

[1:07:54] there's no time on Monday morning before council meetings are

[1:07:57] meeting start at nine AM so that was something that

[1:08:01] that ... Terry Keller had asked that that deadline continue

[1:08:04] on the frock to the Friday

[1:08:06] I'm just so

[1:08:09] 10

[1:08:11] just relation that the time frame we are was what

[1:08:13] date is it still the same amount of time it's

[1:08:16] right for the public correct that's right okay ... follow

[1:08:20] up robin and ... accounts here

[1:08:23] it ... yes ... just wanting whether you did the

[1:08:28] old Canadian thing coming had yet made it Thursday

[1:08:33] yeah thank you very much the difference in the game

[1:08:36] make everybody happy noted that not but I'll getting inside

[1:08:39] it gives a little bit more time for the point

[1:08:43] that Mr Callum was raising which is you know I

[1:08:46] think people need the chance to do their research

[1:08:50] and yet gives you a bit of time to recover

[1:08:54] from that ... because there's some things to deal with

[1:08:57] on Friday on the business day not quite ...

[1:09:01] you know complete but I'm just gonna whether we might

[1:09:04] do a lot of the we've it to see if

[1:09:06] you could make that work if I can certainly include

[1:09:09] that in the fall of staff report most definitely thank

[1:09:11] you thanks Anderson thank you thanks Robert see I was

[1:09:14] going to suggest something you know ... if we allow

[1:09:17] the public little part time but you know so the

[1:09:19] nature not getting enough the emails from Karina well

[1:09:24] that's okay work part of the part of the job

[1:09:27] with that'll go to council your

[1:09:30] all those two things to keep in mind when we

[1:09:33] look talking about to access extending that particular time or

[1:09:37] giving it a little bit of flexibility ...

[1:09:42] one is most of the most important things that we

[1:09:45] do with me with the council have already been in

[1:09:48] front of the public for quite some time by the

[1:09:50] time they get to this stage

[1:09:53] so at that point I think

[1:09:56] particulate blue not rate payers may have had a head

[1:09:59] start on some of these things yes to boot the

[1:10:03] other party is there's always the day of the council

[1:10:07] meeting itself where they're allowed to add items to whatever

[1:10:12] their presentation would have normally being sold I'm not so

[1:10:16] sure that ...

[1:10:18] one it's as important

[1:10:22] to give them that much flexibility and I'm not saying

[1:10:26] not to I'm just saying that I'm not sure it's

[1:10:28] all that important because most of the really good stuff

[1:10:32] they we give them a lot more time

[1:10:35] to take a look at it then what does this

[1:10:39] kind of exercise really shelves

[1:10:45] thank you Jim your comments ... without over a concert

[1:10:48] hall the next in the queue ... counselor at yes

[1:10:52] thank you other P. Mayor I think that ... the

[1:10:55] ex so first of all I think would be ...

[1:10:58] suggestion of Thursday councillor Sampson suggestions sort of going down

[1:11:01] the middle it's a very good one because I do

[1:11:03] think the public is looking for more time so with

[1:11:07] forty five hours before forty five hours now we extend

[1:11:10] that on the proposal of weeks on that I think

[1:11:13] that that would be meaningful the public because ... there

[1:11:16] is a strategic time frame as well to make sure

[1:11:19] that your input is placed and and I do I

[1:11:21] do think it's important ... as part of the process

[1:11:26] that we that council here's what it needs to here's

[1:11:29] as soon as it can yeah ... so I think

[1:11:32] that that's the first thing second ... item for me

[1:11:36] ... Mr chair is for you to the clerk I

[1:11:39] believe that the community ... a communications advisory committee if

[1:11:43] you can bring forward their motion I believe that it

[1:11:46] does and that comes from citizens ... I am a

[1:11:49] member of that group and and so is our at

[1:11:52] the lake to Deputy Mayor our OP hotter ... so

[1:11:56] when that motion came forward ... I do believe that

[1:11:59] that's exactly the request as well would you want to

[1:12:01] just to ... confirm that ... madam chair I don't

[1:12:04] have the motion in front of me

[1:12:08] through you Mr chair I can read that again yes

[1:12:11] I read it verbatim where where is the committee supports

[1:12:15] the earlier release object of agenda and agenda items

[1:12:19] and where is the public has been following the existing

[1:12:22] agenda released process for the last ten years

[1:12:25] that the community communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline

[1:12:31] to provide deputations any correspondence for the public remain the

[1:12:35] same being Monday at nine AM

[1:12:41] oh okay all right so

[1:12:49] right so so the committee is looking for yes okay

[1:12:52] no I just wanted to confirm what the understanding was

[1:12:55] ... and as I said I do think that ...

[1:12:59] that that extra time is very meaningful to the public

[1:13:01] so and we are making a change when something is

[1:13:04] ten years ... establish we want to make sure that

[1:13:07] we give people time in and out to make a

[1:13:11] change and to be able to have more time to

[1:13:15] prepare their case so ... so great to hear all

[1:13:19] of the input and ... thank you Mr chair

[1:13:22] I think answer hope

[1:13:24] any other questions any other questions or comments from the

[1:13:27] floor

[1:13:29] no I'm I'm I'm

[1:13:32] I think the suggestions are are great and maybe Thursday's

[1:13:34] a great compromise that gives the public a little more

[1:13:36] time but also because the clerk time to do her

[1:13:38] job and then that it information and our ends as

[1:13:41] well ... so ... we'll leave that to Madame clerk

[1:13:44] because she will be bringing forth a staff report to

[1:13:46] ... cal first this only public meeting we have to

[1:13:49] go to cal and we still to go to council

[1:13:51] so the time for further discussion once we do that

[1:13:54] unplug settle public comments received during in relation to be

[1:13:57] for

[1:13:58] that said Mr chairman thank you for the comments she

[1:14:01] thank you with that we can close off our last

[1:14:03] public comment ... we move right into notice of meeting

[1:14:06] dates ... we have a council meeting January thirty first

[1:14:10] twenty twenty two town hall council chambers and virtual ...

[1:14:14] that we have a Cao meeting on February first twenty

[1:14:17] twenty two same ... virtual and online and council public

[1:14:22] meeting will be February seventh ... which will be virtual

[1:14:26] as well ... without that concludes our our for our

[1:14:30] four sections or public comments today thank you public for

[1:14:32] making all their comments and staff and counsel for the

[1:14:35] questions comments recommendations with that I will look for more

[1:14:39] that this council does not return at two eight PM

[1:14:43] to meet again February seventh twenty twenty two town hall

[1:14:46] council chambers or at the call of the chair cover

[1:14:48] mover to second place

[1:14:52] I will move Andrea councillor match such move that seconded

[1:14:56] by councillor local second councillor hope thank you moved across

[1:15:00] much of technical circle might clear to you for the

[1:15:02] vote

[1:15:08] thank you Mr chair the borders open

[1:15:11] that was closed

[1:15:16] that motion's carried five nothing thank everybody for your time

[1:15:18] today into the public and stuff very much appreciate it

[1:15:21] a good rest of the day

[1:15:24] thank you Mr Deputy Mayor

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