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and.
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>>
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good afternoon everyone.
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My name is ed flynn.
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District city council.
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I am the chair of the boston
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city council committee on city
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services.
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Today is AUGUST 31st 2026.
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The exact time is 203.
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This hearing is being recorded.
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It is also being live streamed
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at boston.Gov/city council dash
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tv broadcast on xfinity channel
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eight rcn 82 fios channel 964.
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Written comments MAY be sent to
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the committee email at sk dot
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csv city@boston.Gov.
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And will be made part of the
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record and available to all
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city councilors.
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Public testimony will be taken
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at the end of the hearing.
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Individuals will be called on
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in order in which they sign up
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and will have two minutes to
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testify.
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If you are interested in
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testifying in person, please
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add your name to the sign up
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sheet near the entrance of the
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chamber.
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When you walk in if you are
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looking to testify virtually,
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please email our central staff
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liaison shane pack and shane
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and dot pack@boston.Gov.
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For the link and your name will
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be added to the list.
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Before I begin I do want to say
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thank you to shane and ethan
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for being here.
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They're our city
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council central staff and we
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want to thank them for their
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for their work and
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professionalism.
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Today's hearing is on docket
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0335.
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in order for a hearing to
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discuss accessibility issues in
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boston city hall.
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This matter is sponsored by
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myself and city council erin
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murphy who was referred to the
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committee on FEBRUARY 11th,
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2026.
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Today I am and I am joined by
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city councilors in order
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of arrival.
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Councilor fitzgerald, city
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council PRESIDENT Breadon, city
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councilor louijeune.
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At this time I do want to
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acknowledge a letter of absence
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I did receive from one of my
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colleagues.
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I'll read it into the record,
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dear chair flynn.
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MR. Clerk, city
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council colleagues, I regret to
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inform you that I'm unable to
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attend this morning's committee
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on city services on docket
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033135 order for a hearing to
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discuss accessibility issues in
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boston city hall.
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I will follow up with
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additional questions upon
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reviewing my staff's notes and
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watching the recording.
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Please do not hesitate hesitate
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to contact my staff with any
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questions.
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Sincerely, enrique pepen boston
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city council district five.
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I have the honor of introducing
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two exceptionally um well
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qualified advocates in the
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disability community and worked
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with both of them for a number
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of years on accessibility
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issues.
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But before I ask both casandra
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xavier and bill todd before I
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ask them to give an opening
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statement um, I do want to give
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an opportunity to my city
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council colleagues to provide
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an opening statement.
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I do want to give my colleagues
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as much time as necessary, um,
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for their opening statement.
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I'm going to give I'm going to
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give five minutes if if you go
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over five minutes that's okay.
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Continue going.
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And I will not cut you off.
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Let me start with
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councilor fitzgerald.
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Councilor fitzgerald you have
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the floor.
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Thank you very much chair.
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I do appreciate it and I am
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happy to be here for this
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important hearing.
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Uh, regarding accessibility,
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uh, in and around boston city
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hall but also just the wider
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city in general.
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Uh, and I think how we, uh,
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show up, uh, for accessibility
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in and around the property that
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we manage here at city hall uh
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should certainly be the
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forefront and the leader of how
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we, uh, provide accessibility
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to the rest of the city if we
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can't do it in our own
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backyard.
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Uh, it's going to be pretty
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difficult for people to think
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we can do it elsewhere in their
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homes and in their
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neighborhood.
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So, um, I look forward to
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learning a lot, uh, from both
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cassandra and bill.
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Uh, thank you for being here
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today.
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Uh, and for educating us on
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what the problems that persist
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uh, what some of the new
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problems are, uh, and how we
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can best learn and, uh, react
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to what we're seeing out there
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and, um, from you guys who are
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living it every day, uh,
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putting us in your shoes and
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telling us what you need and
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how best we can support you.
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Uh, I think it's very
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important.
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So I thank you for taking the
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time to be here.
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Uh, and chair and I look
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forward to both working with
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the administration, uh, the
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advocates and my colleagues,
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uh, to make sure that we can
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see sure that some of these
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things are followed through on
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to make life a little bit
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easier for our residents.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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>> council fitzgerald city
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council PRESIDENT And
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council PRESIDENT.
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PRESIDENT.
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You have the floor.
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Thank you.
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>> uh, councilor flynn,
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mr chair.
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Good afternoon, bill and
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cassandra.
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So nice to have you here.
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Um, I'm this is an important
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discussion just to evaluate
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where we're at in terms
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of accessibility, uh, in and
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around boston city hall.
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I know we've made incremental
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improvements over the years and
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it's an ongoing project.
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We're not there yet.
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Uh, so I'd love to hear your,
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um, impressions, your
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suggestions and hopefully we
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can, uh, actualize, uh, some
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of your suggestions and make
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our city hall until the city
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hall plaza on the environment
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around, uh, here in government
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center, uh, more accessible to
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everyone and across the city.
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So thank you for being here.
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Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
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Councilor louijeune, you have
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the floor.
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Good afternoon everyone.
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I'm happy to be here.
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Thank you to my colleague, uh,
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councilor flynn for hosting
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this hearing.
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And I want to thank cassandra
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and bill for being here.
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We need to make sure.
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Yes, cassandra are our policy
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queen.
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Thank you for being here and
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our advocacy queen.
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Um, it's important that we make
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sure that the doors of city
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hall are open to everyone and
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that it's accessible.
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We don't have a city for
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everyone if we're not, uh,
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remembering to bring the
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margins and making sure that
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those who have been
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historically excluded from our
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spaces and places that they are
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centered.
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And so I want to continue to
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learn from all of you to think
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about what we can do better
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here in the city of boston and
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work alongside the
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administration and my
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colleagues to make that
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possible.
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I think that was only 40s so
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I'll I'll yield all my time
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back.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, councilor louijeune.
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I believe the americans with
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disabilities act is arguably
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one of the most important
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pieces of federal legislation
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on the books.
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I filed this hearing order
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because it is critical that we
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make accessibility a top
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priority for all in our city,
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especially our seniors persons
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with disabilities.
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We know that over the years
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boston city hall has made
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improvements to ensure
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compliance with the ada
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american disability act and
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improve accessibility for
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persons with disabilities.
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Some of these examples include
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a new accessible entrance on
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the second floor and a sloping
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promenade in the city hall
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plaza renovation in 2022, which
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began under the leadership
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of mayor marty walsh throughout
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mayor janey's time and
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completed a the mayor will.
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There was also the installation
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of a vertical lift at city
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hall's third floor entrance to
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the mezzanine area.
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However, there is more work to
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be done to improve
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accessibility inside the
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building.
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Aging infrastructure continues
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to limit accessibility in
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certain areas such as the
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broken escalators connecting
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the second and third floor as
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well as the halfway between the
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second and third floor and city
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hall labeled the third floor on
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the north elevator.
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As we all know, these elevators
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have been down for quite some
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time and it is important to
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review access within other
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parts of the building to ensure
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those with disabilities can
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fully access access all floors
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departments meeting rooms when
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they are in city hall.
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Residents and neighbors tell
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me it MAY be difficult and
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confusing for them sometimes to
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navigate city hall when they
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are trying to obtain city
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services, especially when they
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have to reach multiple
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departments.
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They MAY come in from the city
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hall plaza or congress street
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from the garage area.
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They MAY use the south
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elevators to go to to go and
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pay a ticket or get a birth
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certificate on the second floor
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while visiting a assessing on
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third floor but with the
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escalator down they have to
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take the stairs to navigate
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their way to find the north
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elevator to get up to the tax
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collection division or a
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taxpayer assistance center in
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that kind of half between the
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mezzanine area on the third
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floor and second floor.
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It does sound confusing if
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you're not familiar with the
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building.
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Last NOVEMBER I reached out to
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commissioner shelton who
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mentioned that the existing
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escalators have been fully
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decommissioned as they are
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beyond repair, not
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code compliant and no longer
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considered to meet
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accessibility standards.
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He also mentioned that the city
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is working to replace these
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escalators with new stairs in a
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fully accessible four stop
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elevator.
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And while the design phase is
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ongoing.
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But the.
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>> timeline for construction
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and completion remains unclear.
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I also highlighted the safety
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of the main staircase on the
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third floor.
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In my hearing order, the short
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length of the bricks in the
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reflective shine make it
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difficult to see, especially
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when you're walking down from
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the fifth floor to the third
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floor.
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And while the current
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guardrails help, I believe the
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safety of these stairs need to
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be enhanced to prevent people
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from tripping and getting
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serious hurt seriously hurt.
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Many people know exactly where
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I'm talking about where they
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have um the podium for speakers
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and the mezzanine level.
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But right next to it is the
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lift for the um for people that
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are in a wheelchair so that
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they can get up.
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But I believe those stairs are
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pretty dangerous if you fall
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um, you'll literally fall the
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whole flight off the stairs.
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Um, I look forward to this
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hearing to discuss these issues
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.
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Improving accessibility on the
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second and third floor must be
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a top priority.
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And for nine years this is
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probably been my number one
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issue is how we ensure persons
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with disabilities are treated
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with respect and dignity and
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that's something I'm going to
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continue to work on.
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Um we're honored to have
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cassandra and bill and I do
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want to give cassandra and bill
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an opportunity to introduce
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themselves, give an opening
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statement and after that we
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will go to questions from my
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colleagues.
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But I don't want to rush you so
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I'm going to probably give each
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person maybe maybe 12 minutes
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and then and then after that
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we'll go to questions.
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So bill or cassandra who would
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like to go first?
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Uh I'm going first.
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Okay bill, you're going first.
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Just give me an opportunity, um
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,to set the timer.
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Um, so bill, you have 12
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minutes.
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Introduce yourself.
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Give us a give us your
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background.
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What's important to you in
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terms of a person with
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disability?
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Um, any recommendations that
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you might have and, um, want to
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say thank you to you, bill, for
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your commitment to, um, civil
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rights bill, you have the
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floor.
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Good afternoon.
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Um, thank you for inviting
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me to this hearing.
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I have a long journey becoming
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blind.
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I was declared blind APRIL
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22nd, 2025.
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I used to live in boston and I
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recently moved to cambridge
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because it's a brand new
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building and an accessible
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apartment.
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And I want to thank the mass
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commission for the blind for
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helping me have this wonderful
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place to live.
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There are many issues facing
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the city of boston.
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They go beyond city hall.
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I'm going to talk about one
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of them that has become quite
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frankly one of the most
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important issues for me as a
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person who is blind with low
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vision and a senior citizen.
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The lack of public bathrooms in
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the city of boston.
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The city should be ashamed
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of itself.
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The city it thinks that
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bathrooms and fire departments
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and police stations are public
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bathrooms.
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Firemen have told me they're
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concerned because they don't
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want people out digging in the
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bathrooms when they have to
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respond.
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To a911 call.
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The boston I spend most of my
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time in the city now between
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city hall and back bay.
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The bathroom at the souvenir
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concession store at the park
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street closes at 4:45 P.M..
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If you don't know where the
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other bathrooms are.
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Good luck!
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There is a temporary bathroom
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just before you cross the
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street to go to public gardens
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.
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I attended jaylen brown's
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magnificent event yesterday.
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Those bathrooms were closed for
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regular maintenance per a
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boston police officer.
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Fortunately there were potter
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parties there.
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What happens if it's not
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bathrooms closed walk down the
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hill.
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You just go to but you want to
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go to the red line kind of go
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back up the hill.
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The city says that hotels are
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considered public bathrooms to
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all the hotels in the city know
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that.
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I also received information
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that the city has a website.
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For bathrooms.
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Great.
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But what if.
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>> you are one of the more 2
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million international visitors
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that come to the city and you
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have a five year old child.
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That needs a bathroom?
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You're really going to look for
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that website?
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No.
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This is a big concern.
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Additionally, there are many
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resources available.
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Uh.
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>> we'll briefly talk about.
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a couple of them.
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One is the carroll center for
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the blind in newton.
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I'm an alumnus.
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That school transforms.
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People's lives.
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The other.
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One is achilles international.
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It's for.
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>> athletes with disabilities.
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Offices around newbury street.
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You can find out more
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information on the website.
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City guides.
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There are.
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Many resources.
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Available to people who um any
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citizen anybody.
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With sign any have a
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disability.
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But there's a.
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Huge problem in the city
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of boston.
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There is.
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No way for any person to find
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out all the most magnificent
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resources the city has.
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Because every.
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Department, every commission.
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Has its own silo.
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The question is.
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>> what's the city going to do
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about it?
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A little background.
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About me.
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I am serving now my sixth year
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on the city's eight strong
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commission senior advisory
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council.
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So some of them.
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>> are warmness of the.
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Council, some for the blind.
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Thank you to the school.
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I am also a community
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accessible monitor certified by
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the state office.
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On disability.
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I don't.
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>> have political power.
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But I can tell you about.
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things you need to improve.
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The sandra.
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>> is going to talk.
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About city hall.
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And the.
[20:23]
Infrastructure of the city.
[20:27]
We both know it's yeoman's
[20:27]
work.
[20:31]
Last thing couple.
[20:31]
Last things.
[20:36]
Anybody want any city
[20:37]
council staff wants to come to
[20:38]
the council on.
[20:40]
You can reach me.
[20:41]
Through council.
[20:42]
Funds office.
[20:46]
Happy to take you on a.
[20:47]
>> tour of this incredible
[20:48]
place.
[20:50]
The second.
[20:51]
Thing and the last thing.
[20:53]
>> is I've made.
[20:55]
This offer and no city
[20:56]
council has taken me up on
[20:56]
that.
[20:57]
It's all repeated again.
[20:59]
You want me to.
[21:01]
Come to your district walk with
[21:02]
you citywide?
[21:03]
Any place.
[21:04]
Any time.
[21:07]
Happy to be your tour guide.
[21:08]
We will both.
[21:09]
Learn from each other.
[21:11]
Once again.
[21:13]
Thank you for the opportunity.
[21:16]
To speak at this important
[21:16]
hearing.
[21:19]
Thank you bill.
[21:20]
Thank you for your testimony
[21:21]
for the important work you were
[21:22]
doing.
[21:25]
We're also joined by city
[21:26]
councilor brian were all city
[21:28]
council ben weber as well.
[21:33]
Um, cassandra and same with
[21:33]
you.
[21:36]
Um, I'm going to give you I'm
[21:38]
going to give you 12 minutes
[21:41]
but um, if you feel like you
[21:43]
need more time um, please take
[21:43]
it.
[21:45]
I will not cut you off.
[21:47]
Okay, but you have the floor.
[21:50]
Hello, everyone.
[21:53]
My name is cassandra xavier and
[21:55]
I'm a resident of the north
[21:55]
end.
[21:59]
I am a disability advocate and
[22:01]
I'm here once again to continue
[22:05]
the advocacy efforts for
[22:08]
residents of all backgrounds in
[22:08]
boston.
[22:11]
Um, my the thing I would like
[22:16]
to bring forward is the most
[22:18]
difficult part in that is the
[22:20]
concurrent street crossings.
[22:25]
That is incredibly important
[22:28]
that we address the issue
[22:31]
of concurrent street crossings
[22:34]
along with the already
[22:37]
concerning infrastructure of a
[22:39]
huge portion of the city the
[22:41]
street the concurrent street
[22:42]
crossings are incredibly
[22:43]
dangerous.
[22:45]
Now some of you MAY be
[22:46]
wondering what a concurrent
[22:49]
street crossing is and in the
[22:52]
most simplest terms concurrent
[22:55]
street crossings are is when
[22:58]
the vehicle and a pedestrian
[23:00]
can cross and drive at the same
[23:00]
time.
[23:04]
For some strange reason.
[23:08]
The overseers of this does not
[23:10]
believe it is a concern that
[23:12]
needs to be fixed.
[23:17]
Now imagine your child or
[23:19]
yourself or someone you know
[23:21]
who's elderly or with a
[23:23]
disability trying to cross the
[23:25]
street and as they have the
[23:29]
right to cross a large vehicle
[23:31]
of any kind is also turning in
[23:36]
towards them thus leading to a
[23:40]
preventable serious accident or
[23:40]
tragic incident.
[23:45]
I was on the radio gbh talking
[23:47]
about this not too long ago and
[23:49]
how dangerous it is.
[23:51]
I really really believe that
[23:54]
needs to be fixed and along
[23:56]
with the concurrent street
[23:58]
crossings which I hope to have
[24:00]
some of you come see with
[24:03]
me one day would be the city's
[24:04]
infrastructure.
[24:10]
There are there's a lot of uh,
[24:15]
street curbs and sidewalks that
[24:17]
really need to be addressed.
[24:21]
Um, it's a lot of accidents
[24:22]
waiting to happen or have
[24:25]
already happened to a lot
[24:26]
of pedestrians and I've been
[24:28]
talking about this relentlessly
[24:29]
over and over.
[24:31]
Every time I come here.
[24:33]
Every person I've been
[24:35]
interviewed with by
[24:36]
news reporters it's been the
[24:40]
same exact concern
[24:41]
infrastructure of boston and
[24:43]
many other places need to be
[24:45]
corrected and addressed.
[24:47]
The concurrent street crossings
[24:49]
need to be addressed in
[24:51]
truncated domes need to be
[24:52]
corrected.
[24:54]
And if you're also wondering
[24:56]
what an in truncated dome is,
[24:58]
it is the little strips on the
[25:00]
ground at the end of the curb
[25:02]
that you could cross and there
[25:03]
are bumps on the ground.
[25:05]
It's not just for decoration.
[25:07]
It's for someone with a
[25:08]
wheelchair.
[25:09]
Someone who uses a white cane.
[25:13]
Uh rollerbladers and strollers
[25:14]
to know that they're on the
[25:16]
edge of the sidewalk so that
[25:18]
they are able to stand at the
[25:20]
end of the street safely.
[25:22]
Some of those in truncated
[25:25]
domes are broken and those need
[25:25]
to be corrected.
[25:30]
Um, and once again, my name is
[25:31]
cassandra xavier.
[25:33]
I am a disability advocate and
[25:36]
i live in the north end and.
[25:39]
Thank you for your time and
[25:41]
I'll hand the floor back.
[25:45]
Thank you.
[25:46]
>> cassandra.
[25:49]
Thank you for your testimony.
[25:52]
Thank you for your leadership
[25:54]
in advocating for persons with
[25:56]
disabilities here in boston but
[25:58]
also across the commonwealth as
[26:00]
a commonwealth of massachusetts
[26:00]
and we.
[26:03]
Have tremendous respect, um,
[26:04]
tremendous respect for you.
[26:08]
Um, I'm going to start with
[26:09]
councilor fitzgerald.
[26:12]
I'm going to give each city
[26:14]
councilor six minutes and if a
[26:16]
city council needs more time,
[26:17]
I'm not going to cut them off
[26:19]
and they can they can take the
[26:19]
time that they need.
[26:21]
But I'll give everyone six
[26:22]
minutes and then start with
[26:23]
council fitzgerald and
[26:24]
council breadon
[26:26]
council louijeune council we're
[26:27]
all councilor weber.
[26:30]
Um council fitzgerald you have.
[26:31]
>> the floor.
[26:32]
Thank you very much chair and
[26:34]
again thank you cassandra and
[26:35]
bill for your advocacy and
[26:36]
testimony today.
[26:37]
Um.
[26:39]
So just sort of going over what
[26:40]
what we just.
[26:41]
Heard I heard truncated domes,
[26:44]
concurrent signals, uh,
[26:45]
bathrooms around the city.
[26:46]
Um.
[26:49]
What else would you add to that
[26:52]
list that we think is and
[26:53]
without having to delve too
[26:54]
deep into any of that, I see
[26:56]
the look on on bill.
[26:56]
But if.
[26:58]
We really want to know right.
[26:59]
Like what are some of the
[26:59]
things that.
[27:03]
persist uh, that affect uh many
[27:04]
with disabilities?
[27:04]
Bill, why don't you go ahead
[27:06]
you could just start maybe you
[27:06]
can just rattle.
[27:06]
Some off.
[27:07]
I'm just.
[27:08]
Wondering what some of the
[27:09]
other ones that are pertinent
[27:11]
to what you think are you know,
[27:11]
what.
[27:12]
>> would you would prioritize?
[27:15]
I would oh my gosh I would
[27:16]
prioritize the concurrent
[27:18]
street crossings.
[27:18]
Yep.
[27:19]
Not just for myself.
[27:21]
There are many of us with all
[27:24]
kinds of backgrounds invisible
[27:25]
disabilities and very visible
[27:25]
disabilities.
[27:28]
Um we're outside.
[27:32]
We are active people or trying
[27:33]
to become more active out and
[27:37]
about and we should not have to
[27:40]
be in fear of our safety just
[27:41]
across the street.
[27:43]
You know, it is the most
[27:45]
disconcerting experience to be
[27:47]
someone who went through
[27:49]
numerous years of mobility
[27:51]
training for their white cane
[27:54]
and to have the right of way to
[27:55]
cross the street properly and
[27:57]
to still almost get hit by a
[27:59]
motorcyclist or a car.
[28:01]
That takes all of your skills
[28:03]
and training and it flushes it
[28:04]
right down the drain.
[28:05]
Concurrent street crossings
[28:07]
need to be addressed
[28:08]
immediately please.
[28:08]
Yep.
[28:10]
Understood.
[28:11]
>> so the truncated domes
[28:12]
concurrent signals?
[28:13]
Yes.
[28:15]
Uh, and anything else that.
[28:16]
>> you would.
[28:18]
Sort of that you come into, you
[28:19]
know, on a daily basis where
[28:20]
you say this is lacking in
[28:22]
terms of accessibility and
[28:22]
could be better.
[28:24]
Sidewalk infrastructure.
[28:25]
Yep.
[28:27]
>> you get your canes or your
[28:29]
mobility aid caught in the
[28:31]
crack of a ground or you twist
[28:33]
your ankle on a sidewalk where
[28:36]
there are missing bricks, you
[28:38]
know and that's just not cool.
[28:40]
Yeah I agree and this this is
[28:42]
not something again not for
[28:42]
anyone.
[28:44]
Not even an accessibility issue
[28:46]
uh, necessarily for those that
[28:46]
have any impairments.
[28:48]
But I mean this is for
[28:48]
everybody.
[28:49]
My guess.
[28:49]
It's everybody.
[28:50]
Right, mike?
[28:51]
>> I turn my ankle in a loose
[28:53]
brick all the time walking the
[28:53]
streets.
[28:55]
I completely I get it and I
[28:55]
should seek.
[28:58]
Someone deserves access to a
[28:59]
sidewalk without rolling their
[29:00]
ankle.
[29:00]
Yes.
[29:01]
>> understood.
[29:03]
>> it hurts.
[29:04]
I believe we built anything
[29:04]
then.
[29:05]
Yes.
[29:08]
>> to follow up on consensus
[29:09]
priority.
[29:12]
When I lived on west foxboro I
[29:14]
took a city employee for road
[29:15]
tire.
[29:17]
To walk center street.
[29:19]
And here's.
[29:22]
>> what you face on one side is
[29:25]
the latest equipment to cross
[29:25]
the street.
[29:26]
Some talk.
[29:28]
Some don't.
[29:29]
On the.
[29:30]
other side there's nothing.
[29:34]
On one side is a yellow tone
[29:34]
path.
[29:36]
On the other side there's
[29:37]
nothing.
[29:39]
You also have brown.
[29:42]
Well, folks, there's a reason
[29:44]
why I wear this yellow cap in
[29:45]
the city hall.
[29:48]
It's a reminder yellow is a
[29:52]
better color than brown or.
[29:52]
>> black.
[29:53]
For those tone pants.
[29:53]
Okay.
[29:56]
>> why does the city have
[29:57]
sewers?
[29:58]
But the curb cut outs.
[29:59]
?
[30:03]
Blind people I know can lose
[30:06]
their came if they don't have
[30:07]
this ball.
[30:09]
If they have a regular stick
[30:10]
and it comes into the sewer.
[30:13]
No.
[30:15]
>> what are you going to do
[30:16]
about it?
[30:17]
When I was here in MARCH
[30:18]
talking about accessibility and
[30:21]
snow, the question for the
[30:23]
city's administration what are
[30:26]
your plans to make sure
[30:28]
sidewalks are more accessible
[30:31]
to everyone next winter storms
[30:32]
are coming.
[30:33]
Are you ready?
[30:35]
I offered a suggestion that not
[30:39]
one city council took me up on
[30:40]
create what I called the snow
[30:43]
upgrade briefly pay the kids.
[30:47]
The money goes not.
[30:49]
>> in an amazon card into a
[30:49]
bank account.
[30:51]
Now one.
[30:53]
City councilor approached
[30:54]
me afterwards.
[30:56]
That's embarrassing for the
[30:56]
city.
[30:58]
Council because it's.
[30:59]
>> going to happen again.
[31:01]
Snow doesn't go away.
[31:03]
cassandra's priority.
[31:05]
It's also my priority.
[31:09]
I walk all over back bay
[31:11]
downtown crossing city hall
[31:11]
class.
[31:13]
>> of the city.
[31:14]
Did a great job with copley
[31:15]
square park.
[31:17]
Much more accessible.
[31:19]
I'm usually there.
[31:20]
>> every tuesday and friday for
[31:21]
the farmers market.
[31:24]
It's a great place, it's more
[31:25]
accessible and I feel.
[31:27]
Safe from right.
[31:29]
So what's the city.
[31:30]
Going to do about snow removal?
[31:32]
It's coming just a few months
[31:33]
away.
[31:34]
What's the plan?
[31:37]
I asked the question and then
[31:39]
lastly mayor wolf, I've been
[31:41]
trying to speak to you for two
[31:42]
years in person about this.
[31:44]
And your.
[31:45]
>> staff has never responded.
[31:49]
Thank you.
[31:50]
Thanks, bill.
[31:52]
I'm sure you're not alone there
[31:52]
.
[31:53]
The truncated domes.
[31:55]
Uh.
[31:56]
They are going around and.
[31:57]
Repairing them now.
[31:57]
Right there is.
[31:58]
>> a federal lot to.
[32:00]
What I believe that was taking
[32:01]
place and so I know it's a
[32:01]
long.
[32:03]
Process but is it not?
[32:03]
Uh.
[32:04]
They're going around to try and
[32:06]
make them even on both sides.
[32:07]
>> of the road and.
[32:08]
Taking it piece by piece from
[32:09]
what I understand.
[32:12]
Uh, and as for the uh, the the
[32:13]
snow brigade.
[32:14]
Um, I think as.
[32:16]
Many councilors do here in our
[32:16]
own districts.
[32:18]
Uh, we do have a typical we try
[32:20]
to buy the kids ice cream if
[32:21]
they shovel out, uh, a
[32:23]
neighbor's sidewalk or a
[32:24]
hydrant, uh, or an elderly
[32:26]
neighbor or things of that
[32:26]
nature.
[32:26]
So.
[32:28]
Uh, we do what we can with.
[32:29]
>> what we've got, bill.
[32:31]
But I agree it could be more
[32:32]
organized and substantial.
[32:34]
But again, uh, that is my time.
[32:35]
Thank you, uh, to both.
[32:37]
>> of you for your suggestions.
[32:38]
>> look forward to, uh, talking
[32:39]
in the future.
[32:40]
Thank you chair.
[32:42]
Thank you,
[32:42]
councilor fitzgerald.
[32:47]
Um, I do want to, um I do want
[32:50]
to acknowledge my city
[32:51]
council colleagues.
[32:54]
They did go on record in
[32:57]
support of my proposal on to
[32:59]
eliminate basically concurrent
[33:02]
street lighting several times I
[33:02]
believe.
[33:05]
But I do want to acknowledge my
[33:06]
colleagues for the important
[33:08]
work and leadership they have
[33:09]
provided on that issue.
[33:11]
Certainly we have more work to
[33:13]
do to try to convince the
[33:14]
administration that we need to
[33:16]
make a complete change.
[33:18]
I also want to acknowledge and
[33:20]
the council fitzgerald
[33:22]
mentioned it but um I do know
[33:24]
councilor worrell was active
[33:28]
and is active on trying to uh
[33:30]
continue to work with the city
[33:33]
administration on the street um
[33:35]
snow removal and we had a
[33:37]
hearing several months ago but
[33:38]
I think council all wants to
[33:40]
have another one over the next
[33:41]
month or two months.
[33:44]
Um, but let me go to the city
[33:46]
council PRESIDENT For six
[33:47]
minutes.
[33:49]
Um, council PRESIDENT Breadon,
[33:49]
you have.
[33:50]
>> the floor.
[33:51]
Thank you very much.
[33:52]
And, um.
[33:57]
I really the I share your
[33:59]
concerns about the concurrent
[34:00]
street crossings.
[34:04]
Um in and I feel that there's a
[34:07]
level of lack of enforcement
[34:10]
and safety challenges with
[34:11]
crosswalks in general.
[34:12]
Like I was talking to someone
[34:14]
recently in the last few weeks
[34:16]
about just the sheer number
[34:18]
of incidents like we've had
[34:19]
fatalities on crosswalks in
[34:21]
allston, brighton.
[34:24]
We have had near-misses and
[34:28]
injuries were uh drivers don't
[34:28]
stop.
[34:29]
They stop, they slow down.
[34:31]
They stop and and the person's
[34:32]
like three quarters of the way
[34:34]
across but they run the drive
[34:35]
on and then they clipped them
[34:38]
on the shoulder with the wing
[34:39]
mirror and breaker on.
[34:41]
That has happened in our
[34:42]
district.
[34:45]
So I think and the other aspect
[34:47]
just the demography the
[34:48]
demographics of our of our city
[34:50]
is we have an we have an aging
[34:51]
population.
[34:53]
Uh, as we get older we have
[34:54]
more mobility problems.
[34:56]
We have vision and hearing and
[34:57]
sensory issues that new folks
[34:59]
can speak to very well.
[35:06]
Um and it it seems to be that
[35:10]
our um, streets are not safe
[35:13]
for all road users and I think
[35:17]
it's really challenging like
[35:19]
how do we in terms of your
[35:22]
knowledge, bill and cassandra
[35:24]
of other municipalities maybe
[35:26]
either globally, nationally or
[35:29]
locally the people places where
[35:30]
they do things differently that
[35:31]
we might learn from.
[35:33]
Have you any any any thoughts
[35:34]
on that matter?
[35:35]
Yes.
[35:37]
>> the city.
[35:40]
Belongs as a member of the open
[35:41]
mobility foundation.
[35:44]
It has had.
[35:47]
Staff lead that organization.
[35:50]
The question.
[35:51]
>> is and I don't know the
[35:52]
answer.
[35:53]
.
[35:54]
What is the.
[35:55]
City doing to.
[35:57]
Use the technology.
[35:58]
That's open source.
[36:01]
To improve monitoring of.
[36:05]
Transportation and vehicles.
[36:06]
?
[36:09]
>> for example, minneapolis has
[36:10]
been a pilot.
[36:12]
Program with.
[36:15]
Major companies like pps to
[36:17]
make sure the curb cut outs and
[36:17]
up.
[36:21]
Walked along times as far as.
[36:23]
What city councilor fitzgerald.
[36:24]
Said.
[36:25]
>> that class.
[36:26]
Action lawsuit said the city
[36:28]
had 23,000.
[36:34]
Miles sidewalks to fix those.
[36:37]
Curb cut outs, according to.
[36:39]
The settlement, the city only
[36:44]
has to fix 1600 a year in 2024
[36:48]
to meet the goal 2025 the city
[36:51]
was proud it fixed over 1700
[36:52]
folks.
[36:53]
Do the math.
[36:55]
How long is it going to fix
[36:56]
those 23,000.
[36:58]
And they'll.
[36:58]
Never all get.
[37:01]
Fixed because it's just going
[37:03]
to start over again.
[37:04]
The law changes.
[37:07]
I know city government moves
[37:08]
slower than.
[37:09]
Turtles.
[37:10]
>> but the city needs to move.
[37:11]
Faster because the.
[37:13]
>> world moves faster.
[37:17]
Getting feedback.
[37:19]
Hold on.
[37:23]
That feedback is coming.
[37:24]
Okay.
[37:26]
>> feedback on way.
[37:28]
Sort of question.
[37:30]
Is what are you going to do
[37:31]
about these sidewalks and
[37:32]
streets?
[37:34]
What are you going to do about
[37:34]
the trees and the roots?
[37:38]
Roots don't go down they go
[37:38]
out.
[37:40]
Like I.
[37:42]
Said happy to.
[37:44]
>> come any time any place to a
[37:46]
city council district and city
[37:47]
wide walk with.
[37:48]
>> me.
[37:51]
And also cassandra on MARCH 9th
[37:53]
hearing she saw the very
[37:55]
impactful video she made.
[37:58]
Anybody looked at it since it
[37:59]
was shown.
[38:01]
MARCH 9th 2026.
[38:04]
There's a lot the.
[38:06]
City can do but the problem is
[38:07]
it's all in silos.
[38:11]
I don't know how well city
[38:12]
agencies work together.
[38:14]
I'm an.
[38:15]
>> outsider, not an insider.
[38:17]
Thank you.
[38:20]
>> um.
[38:24]
>> in terms.
[38:24]
Of the.
[38:28]
The tactile pads or the the
[38:29]
truncated domes as they're
[38:32]
called, um it seems that some
[38:34]
of the the yellow ones which
[38:38]
are more visually on the um.
[38:43]
Yes accessible that very often
[38:44]
the materials are made in is
[38:45]
degrades very quickly
[38:47]
especially if it's been
[38:47]
exposed.
[38:49]
Is that something that you
[38:50]
folks are observing in your
[38:53]
travels like uh just the
[38:56]
comments that the the truncated
[39:00]
um pads deteriorate and
[39:02]
basically need replacement in
[39:02]
very.
[39:03]
>> short order?
[39:04]
Yes.
[39:07]
>> uh, speaking of in truncated
[39:09]
domes that need to be replaced
[39:11]
by the edward brooke
[39:11]
courthouse.
[39:16]
Um, there is a there is an inch
[39:17]
truncated dome that is
[39:21]
completely ripped off and it's
[39:21]
missing.
[39:23]
I don't know if they plan on
[39:25]
fixing it any time soon or if
[39:27]
it was taken off intentionally
[39:27]
.
[39:30]
Um, but.
[39:33]
That's a concern and I believe
[39:34]
that they should all be a
[39:37]
standard color like yellow for
[39:40]
easy visibility, for low vision
[39:42]
and for anyone that you know
[39:46]
needs to be able to see it at a
[39:47]
distance or up close to know
[39:49]
where to stand properly.
[39:51]
Um yeah.
[39:53]
Thank you.
[39:55]
>> that's that's my time.
[39:57]
I have a place to talk.
[39:58]
Two places to talk.
[39:58]
About the.
[39:59]
Follow up.
[40:00]
At the.
[40:02]
Corner of charles and beacon
[40:03]
street.
[40:06]
There's a fire hydrant right
[40:08]
where the curb cut out should.
[40:09]
Be as.
[40:10]
>> you cross the street from
[40:12]
charles to go to the public
[40:13]
gardens next.
[40:15]
And I saw this when I had
[40:15]
better.
[40:17]
Eyesight walk out the.
[40:19]
back bay commuter rail station.
[40:21]
Turn right to go down dartmouth
[40:21]
.
[40:24]
Street at the intersection.
[40:25]
>> of dartmouth and.
[40:25]
Stewart street.
[40:27]
Couple of years.
[40:29]
Ago there was no curb cut out.
[40:31]
I saw.
[40:32]
>> a mother.
[40:33]
Push a.
[40:35]
>> child in a wheelchair and
[40:36]
had to go up.
[40:37]
Stewart street.
[40:39]
In the street.
[40:41]
I actually got a phone call
[40:42]
from some consultants.
[40:43]
>> I couldn't figure.
[40:45]
Out who owns that curb cut off
[40:45]
.
[40:48]
I was told it was the mass
[40:48]
turnpike.
[40:49]
It still.
[40:52]
>> hasn't been fixed as of last
[40:52]
friday.
[40:56]
I hope no other mother has to
[40:59]
push a child in a wheelchair up
[41:02]
stewart street to wherever she
[41:02]
was going.
[41:04]
I think it.
[41:05]
>> was a doctor's.
[41:05]
Appointment because I.
[41:05]
Asked her.
[41:09]
>> that's just 1.
[41:10]
>> or 2 simple examples.
[41:10]
A fire.
[41:15]
Hydrant at a curb cut off and a
[41:16]
mother having.
[41:16]
>> to walk.
[41:18]
>> up stewart street because
[41:19]
there's no curb cut out there.
[41:24]
Make a thank you, bill.
[41:25]
Thank you, MISTER Chair.
[41:28]
Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
[41:31]
Um, councilor louijeune, you
[41:31]
have the floor.
[41:32]
Thank you.
[41:34]
>> and I want to thank you both
[41:35]
for your for your testimony,
[41:36]
bill.
[41:37]
i do want to take you up on
[41:37]
your offer.
[41:39]
Um, to walk through the
[41:40]
neighborhood.
[41:42]
Um, for me, I live on the
[41:44]
street and I want to thank the
[41:46]
council and they're not here or
[41:47]
they're not coming right to the
[41:47]
disability commission.
[41:48]
I know their staff.
[41:49]
Okay?
[41:50]
But I have been there.
[41:51]
They have been really gracious
[41:53]
and the administration has come
[41:55]
out to my street to really look
[41:56]
at the disability and
[41:56]
accessibility issues.
[41:58]
And so I think that we do need
[41:59]
to do more of that.
[42:01]
Um, I wonder and because
[42:02]
they're not here it's a
[42:03]
difficult question to ask.
[42:06]
Uh, we there are so many silos
[42:09]
where like regardless of the.
[42:09]
Issue.
[42:11]
>> especially when it comes to
[42:12]
the needs of folks who are too
[42:13]
often marginalized.
[42:15]
I'm wondering if anyone knows
[42:17]
whether the disability
[42:18]
commission right now has
[42:19]
meetings where they try to
[42:20]
bring everyone together where
[42:23]
the top where the issue is just
[42:24]
on accessibility and
[42:24]
disability.
[42:27]
Um, I'd.
[42:28]
>> like to speak about
[42:29]
commissioner councilor t.
[42:30]
>> uh.
[42:32]
They do yeoman's work.
[42:33]
They need to.
[42:33]
>> be.
[42:35]
Trained put up for.
[42:36]
>> major projects.
[42:40]
They have to evaluate 217 city
[42:41]
buildings for accessibility.
[42:45]
Thousands of miles of sidewalks
[42:45]
.
[42:46]
And you got to figure out.
[42:49]
she told me who owns the
[42:49]
sidewalk?
[42:51]
>> who owns the bridge?
[42:53]
I think it's really complicated
[42:53]
.
[42:56]
And when you're looking at road
[43:00]
diet I was told you have
[43:01]
federal, state and city laws.
[43:04]
They conflict with each other
[43:04]
on many.
[43:06]
Levels and that.
[43:08]
>> was from the project manager
[43:10]
who managed the road diet
[43:12]
program and a project from west
[43:13]
roxbury.
[43:17]
Thank you.
[43:19]
>> I'm happy to speak to
[43:19]
afterwards.
[43:20]
Thank you.
[43:22]
Thank you for taking me up on
[43:23]
my offer for the commissioners
[43:23]
team.
[43:24]
That's great work.
[43:27]
They need more people and they
[43:28]
need better budget, more money.
[43:31]
Thank you.
[43:32]
>> thank you bill.
[43:35]
Um, either casandra or bill on
[43:36]
the issue of general
[43:37]
accessibility on the issue
[43:39]
of uh, concurrent street
[43:39]
crossings.
[43:40]
Are there examples of cities
[43:41]
who are doing it?
[43:43]
Um or doing.
[43:45]
Uh.
[43:47]
>> accessibility in ways that
[43:47]
we need to.
[43:50]
Copy or model or examples that
[43:51]
you've seen in other places
[43:52]
because you don't have to raise
[43:53]
a hand the light source.
[43:56]
So accessibility concerns
[43:58]
should always be.
[44:01]
It should be prioritized.
[44:05]
Oftentimes whenever an
[44:06]
accessibility need is brought
[44:08]
up to the forefront.
[44:10]
Um or is at least attempt to it
[44:12]
is always an afterthought.
[44:15]
you know, I always remind
[44:16]
everybody at some point you're
[44:19]
going to many of us will become
[44:22]
older and we will develop
[44:23]
disabilities by age.
[44:26]
So right now many of us can
[44:26]
avoid.
[44:29]
Those cracks in the road if
[44:31]
we're walking in a really fast
[44:32]
speed.
[44:34]
But sooner or later maybe 20 to
[44:36]
30 years you MAY not have the
[44:38]
same agility or quickness that
[44:40]
you once did in the past and or
[44:43]
at some point anyone can become
[44:45]
a part of the disability
[44:45]
community.
[44:47]
Uh no one is exempt from
[44:50]
acquiring a disability not even
[44:50]
20 minutes from now.
[44:54]
So whenever these things are
[44:57]
being whenever construction and
[44:58]
reconstruction of certain
[44:58]
places.
[45:00]
Are is is happening.
[45:04]
Accessibility should always be
[45:06]
woven into these things.
[45:09]
You know it's a compliance
[45:12]
thing and I'm going to keep
[45:13]
repeating it over and over and
[45:15]
over until we see it happening
[45:15]
.
[45:17]
And I'm also.
[45:18]
Open to.
[45:19]
Some further discussion after
[45:21]
this hearing as well with
[45:22]
anyone.
[45:23]
Thank you cassandra.
[45:25]
Other areas in the city that
[45:27]
you think are like the most
[45:28]
problematic, the most difficult
[45:31]
,the most inaccessible for our
[45:31]
residents here.
[45:35]
Oh my gosh I can list one
[45:35]
of the many of them.
[45:40]
Um along common ave in the area
[45:41]
by the area where they have the
[45:45]
elephant standing those streets
[45:48]
or those blocks on the uh,
[45:49]
commonwealth area.
[45:52]
a lot of them do not have apps
[45:54]
buttons and that's shortened
[45:56]
for audible pedestrian signals.
[45:59]
Those are incredibly dangerous
[46:00]
street corners.
[46:03]
Um, and I believe that is where
[46:05]
someone had unfortunately
[46:09]
passed away because of lack of,
[46:10]
you know, the audible
[46:11]
pedestrian signals and the
[46:12]
street crossing signals.
[46:15]
And that is also where the
[46:17]
concurrent street crossing
[46:19]
issue is also heavily noticed
[46:20]
as well.
[46:21]
Okay.
[46:23]
>> um.
[46:25]
I'm not qualified to talk about
[46:25]
other.
[46:27]
Cities but the problem.
[46:28]
With cassandra said.
[46:30]
I don't know who said it.
[46:31]
But everybody.
[46:33]
>> in the world has a
[46:33]
disability in waiting.
[46:36]
Just of don't know when it's.
[46:36]
>> going to show up.
[46:39]
I do not know.
[46:43]
Till 2015 that I had an
[46:45]
isolated disease called my kill
[46:48]
generation of any of the city
[46:48]
councilors.
[46:50]
Talk to all the doctors at
[46:52]
mount sinai or doing research.
[46:54]
For doctors.
[46:55]
Who are teaching.
[46:57]
Students that the college of.
[46:59]
Optometry you want to.
[47:00]
>> meet them.
[47:02]
Come and see me.
[47:03]
I'll introduce you to talk to
[47:04]
ross at the normal.
[47:05]
College of optometry.
[47:07]
Amazing woman.
[47:08]
Amazing doctor.
[47:10]
Amazing research is still here.
[47:11]
That's just.
[47:13]
One example.
[47:14]
>> of my journey.
[47:18]
Thank you.
[47:20]
um, I wanted to follow up on
[47:21]
something that you stated
[47:22]
earlier.
[47:23]
Bill and I want to read it just
[47:26]
to make sure that I, um.
[47:29]
Uh, just to make sure that I
[47:29]
got it right.
[47:30]
I think when you were talking
[47:33]
about the issue of public
[47:35]
bathrooms, you were stating you
[47:39]
stated that hotels in the city
[47:40]
of boston or is it in the
[47:41]
commonwealth of massachusetts
[47:44]
that they are by right by law?
[47:45]
Public?
[47:45]
No.
[47:45]
Okay.
[47:47]
I just wanted to clarify what
[47:48]
the what you stated.
[47:48]
Okay.
[47:51]
>> I filed the complaint with
[47:53]
311 about the lack
[47:54]
of bathrooms.
[47:55]
I received.
[47:56]
The form letter from crystal
[47:58]
with cautions office.
[47:59]
It stated.
[48:03]
It to the.
[48:05]
City considers public bathrooms
[48:06]
and hotels.
[48:08]
What are you going to do.
[48:10]
Parts for public bathroom?
[48:11]
Yeah.
[48:13]
>> I use the bathrooms, said
[48:15]
the company fairmont hotel a
[48:17]
lot because it's a shorter walk
[48:19]
than going to the library.
[48:20]
And what happens if the library
[48:22]
is close at 5:00 and you got a
[48:24]
five year old kid who needs to
[48:25]
use the bathroom?
[48:26]
They're not going to look at
[48:27]
the websites.
[48:29]
They're not going.
[48:29]
>> to look at wayfair.
[48:31]
That's in the letter that I
[48:33]
perform whenever I receive.
[48:36]
I recognize the person across
[48:38]
the commission team has human
[48:38]
work.
[48:42]
i can't talk about what other
[48:43]
cities do.
[48:43]
I only know.
[48:44]
About boston.
[48:46]
I'm just beginning to learn
[48:46]
cambridge.
[48:48]
It's a.
[48:49]
>> fascinating journey.
[48:50]
Come on.
[48:51]
Come and join me.
[48:55]
You'll find out what it's like
[48:57]
to become blind in the city
[48:57]
of boston.
[49:00]
Sometimes it's amazing,
[49:01]
sometimes it's hilarious.
[49:02]
And some.
[49:04]
Times this christian just says
[49:05]
it's tight.
[49:07]
Rome dangerous to navigate
[49:08]
these streets.
[49:10]
And we're.
[49:11]
>> in better shape than some
[49:12]
other cities.
[49:15]
My mobility husband's from
[49:15]
mexico.
[49:16]
Jesus christ.
[49:18]
Is where he lives.
[49:18]
Oh my GOD.
[49:21]
Good thing she has sights.
[49:23]
.
[49:25]
>> so is the city.
[49:28]
Going to move slow or is it
[49:30]
going to move fast and be
[49:30]
careful.
[49:34]
You've got over 200 million to
[49:35]
2 million visitors that come
[49:37]
here every year from across the
[49:37]
world.
[49:40]
We've got a great example for
[49:40]
world cup.
[49:42]
They're coming.
[49:43]
Back folks.
[49:44]
What are you going to do to
[49:46]
make sure they know about
[49:46]
accessibility in in this
[49:47]
wonderful city?
[49:49]
That's the question.
[49:51]
I don't have the answers.
[49:54]
Well thank you.
[49:56]
Thank you for your, uh for your
[49:57]
time and your testimony.
[49:59]
I started my day today at the
[50:00]
national braille press.
[50:03]
Um, and I just know that it's
[50:04]
important that we do everything
[50:06]
that we can for, um.
[50:09]
Uh uh, all of our communities
[50:10]
here especially those.
[50:13]
Who are living and trying to
[50:14]
thrive with disabilities.
[50:15]
So thank you for your
[50:16]
testimony, bill.
[50:17]
Um.
[50:19]
>> and to you, cassandra and
[50:20]
for everyone at the national
[50:20]
braille.
[50:21]
>> press for.
[50:22]
The work that they do to make
[50:23]
sure accessibility is a real
[50:24]
thing for everyone.
[50:25]
Later I'd like to hear about
[50:25]
it.
[50:28]
And by the way, if any city
[50:30]
city councilor my go to find
[50:32]
links to come and see it talk
[50:33]
to me.
[50:35]
Brian the ceo will welcome you
[50:36]
with open arms.
[50:38]
Thank you.
[50:40]
Thank you.
[50:42]
>> thank you,
[50:46]
councilor louijeune and, um,
[50:48]
next up is councilor.
[50:50]
We're all just stepped out.
[50:53]
Um, one thing I do want to
[50:53]
mention I'll go.
[50:56]
I'll go to council whether I
[50:57]
visited the carroll center for
[50:59]
the blind several years ago.
[51:02]
Uh, serving all ages in all
[51:04]
stages of vision loss.
[51:07]
But talking to bill and
[51:07]
cassandra.
[51:10]
Um, I plan to do a visit
[51:12]
sometime in OCTOBER and would
[51:13]
like to invite all of my
[51:15]
colleagues if they are able to
[51:15]
join us.
[51:16]
I'll give.
[51:18]
And I'll give people plenty
[51:18]
of notice.
[51:21]
Um, but I think cassandra
[51:22]
cassandra is going to join
[51:23]
me and ride over with me.
[51:24]
Yeah.
[51:25]
>> over to newton.
[51:26]
Then we're going to go to one
[51:28]
of those ice cream places after
[51:29]
I think so, yeah.
[51:30]
Oh, my.
[51:32]
>> uh my colleagues are, um,
[51:33]
welcome to join us.
[51:35]
Um, next up is council weber.
[51:36]
Council weber.
[51:37]
You have the floor.
[51:39]
Okay.
[51:40]
>> thank you very much.
[51:40]
Uh.
[51:42]
Nice to see the panelists.
[51:45]
Um, uh, and I see bill.
[51:47]
But cassandra, like bill was
[51:49]
talking about, you know, he,
[51:51]
uh, other cities and you know,
[51:52]
he knows what's going on here.
[51:55]
Uh, is there is there another
[51:57]
city you know, in the country
[51:58]
somewhere else that we should
[52:01]
be looking to for, you know,
[52:03]
how to approach these issues as
[52:03]
somebody?
[52:07]
Uh, other cities that we
[52:07]
should.
[52:11]
Look into for like I would say
[52:17]
minneapolis minneapolis has uh
[52:20]
,very how do I say?
[52:26]
They can be an example of how
[52:26]
to.
[52:27]
Make sure.
[52:32]
A city can be as accessible as
[52:34]
possible, especially the
[52:36]
southeast minneapolis area.
[52:39]
Uh, audible pedestrian signals.
[52:46]
Um, a lot of infrastructure
[52:47]
accessibility in many ways.
[52:50]
But it has been a while since I
[52:51]
had last visited minneapolis.
[52:56]
Um, but when I went there I
[52:57]
found it to be pretty cool.
[52:58]
Like well.
[52:59]
>> not.
[52:59]
cool but.
[53:00]
>> like.
[53:01]
Be accessible because I was
[53:04]
there at a training center for
[53:07]
the blind at the time and.
[53:08]
It was.
[53:11]
Pretty easy to navigate.
[53:15]
And though every city is not
[53:18]
perfect but I kind of was
[53:21]
wishing that minneapolis and
[53:21]
massachusetts could trade.
[53:24]
Resources in a way.
[53:26]
Mhm.
[53:27]
>> if that answers.
[53:28]
>> your yeah yeah.
[53:29]
No that's that's good.
[53:31]
Uh I have the I don't know if
[53:31]
the.
[53:35]
Current former the city
[53:36]
councilor for minneapolis on on
[53:36]
speed dial uh we.
[53:37]
Were in.
[53:39]
>> touch during this.
[53:42]
Tour so uh I can I can give him
[53:43]
a call and and see what they're
[53:44]
doing there.
[53:45]
Great.
[53:45]
Uh, yeah.
[53:45]
Bill.
[53:47]
City council member to
[53:48]
interrupt you since you're
[53:49]
going to make that phone call.
[53:52]
Minneapolis is one of the
[53:54]
cities that runs pilot projects
[53:56]
for the open mobility
[53:57]
foundation that I mentioned
[53:57]
earlier.
[53:58]
I want.
[53:59]
>> to ask.
[54:00]
>> him or.
[54:02]
Her what their involvement is
[54:05]
with the military foundation.
[54:06]
It's a nonprofit.
[54:08]
In cities.
[54:10]
Across the world belong.
[54:12]
To it and that includes.
[54:13]
Boston, massachusetts.
[54:16]
Good question to ask them.
[54:18]
Thanks for bringing.
[54:19]
>> up minneapolis.
[54:20]
oh yeah.
[54:21]
Minneapolis is one of those
[54:22]
special cities for me.
[54:23]
Mhm.
[54:24]
>> okay yeah I've been there.
[54:26]
Uh I went to law school in iowa
[54:27]
so took some trips up to
[54:29]
minneapolis is really
[54:31]
interesting city and uh yeah I
[54:32]
can't wait to reach out.
[54:35]
Um uh so I guess cassandra, you
[54:37]
also mentioned uh, concurrent
[54:40]
lighting and as the chair
[54:41]
mentioned, you know, we filed
[54:42]
uh resolution I think at least
[54:44]
one that you know, we we voted
[54:46]
in favor of of getting rid
[54:48]
of them in the city and the
[54:50]
reason why one of the reasons
[54:52]
why I support it is because
[54:53]
right in my district on hyde
[54:55]
park ave uh, where I think you
[54:57]
you made your video this winter
[54:59]
and tower uh, glen ingram was
[55:01]
killed by a bus on a concurrent
[55:03]
light and and so he was
[55:04]
crossing in a green a couple
[55:05]
of years ago.
[55:07]
Um, I mean, we heard from the
[55:08]
chief of streets we asked him
[55:10]
the I think I think the chair
[55:12]
asked him about concurrent
[55:13]
lights and I think the response
[55:16]
was if we if we did a blanket
[55:17]
concurrent light ban across the
[55:19]
whole city, it would cause a
[55:21]
lot of a lot more traffic, a
[55:23]
lot more, you know, a lot
[55:24]
of some insurmountable issues.
[55:25]
Is there I guess my question
[55:28]
for you is is there a way to do
[55:30]
it in a targeted way where we
[55:32]
create zones where there's no
[55:34]
concurrent lights or are you
[55:36]
just thinking would you just
[55:38]
want you know, the entire city
[55:40]
just to ban them from one side
[55:40]
to the other?
[55:43]
My thing is I would ask this
[55:45]
person what do they think is
[55:48]
more important the safety of a
[55:48]
person.
[55:50]
On the street.
[55:55]
Walking around or a car stuck
[55:55]
in traffic?
[56:00]
You know the person they just
[56:02]
need a couple of seconds extra
[56:03]
to cross the road.
[56:05]
The car could always get to
[56:08]
their destination a lot faster
[56:08]
than a person.
[56:12]
So it's like I mean I've never
[56:14]
I've never driven in my life
[56:14]
before.
[56:16]
I've always been living with
[56:17]
blindness and deafness together
[56:18]
.
[56:21]
So I don't know what the
[56:23]
urgency is to be behind the
[56:27]
wheel and want to rush through
[56:28]
even with someone trying to
[56:29]
cross.
[56:31]
I've always been the pedestrian
[56:35]
but maybe some of the most
[56:39]
active or highly um trafficked
[56:41]
spots in the city could have no
[56:45]
concurrent street crossings and
[56:47]
as it might just get rid of it.
[56:48]
>> just get rid of it.
[56:48]
Okay?
[56:49]
>> just just take it out.
[56:50]
Yeah.
[56:50]
Take it out.
[56:51]
Okay.
[56:51]
It's okay.
[56:52]
They can stand in the traffic
[56:54]
light a little bit longer.
[56:55]
They have air conditioning in
[56:55]
their car.
[56:57]
They have a heater in their
[56:57]
car.
[56:59]
The pedestrians are exposed to
[57:00]
the heat and the cold.
[57:00]
They'll be fine.
[57:02]
So sounds good.
[57:03]
Uh.
[57:04]
And I just take.
[57:04]
>> it off.
[57:04]
Yeah.
[57:05]
>> okay.
[57:06]
>> bill, you got your hand up.
[57:07]
You know.
[57:09]
>> as a person who used to be
[57:10]
able to drive.
[57:13]
And I.
[57:14]
Lived on one spot street and
[57:15]
now I'm.
[57:17]
Just watching center street, I
[57:19]
think to myself I used to drive
[57:20]
on that road.
[57:20]
What am I.
[57:22]
>> what am I crazy?
[57:23]
Okay.
[57:25]
And that's that's before and
[57:26]
after the road diet.
[57:29]
So since you brought it up, how
[57:31]
about doing a pilot project in
[57:31]
west roxbury?
[57:33]
You've already got road diet.
[57:34]
You still got problems.
[57:38]
I know it's still a big issue
[57:39]
for you as a city councilor,
[57:41]
but you got the bike riders who
[57:43]
are here in full force and then
[57:44]
.
[57:44]
>> MARCH.
[57:47]
Pick a neighborhood, pick a
[57:48]
street.
[57:49]
What they're don't.
[57:52]
Pick the street he wants to do
[57:52]
the pilot.
[57:52]
Project is.
[57:55]
It's dangerous out there.
[57:57]
You know.
[58:01]
The question is how many
[58:02]
fathers are going to get killed
[58:04]
with a stroller with a three
[58:07]
year old and I'm and I know I'm
[58:08]
being very blunt and very
[58:08]
direct.
[58:09]
How long.
[58:11]
>> is it going to take for
[58:12]
another adult to get killed on
[58:14]
the streets of summer street in
[58:14]
west roxbury?
[58:16]
That happened a few years ago.
[58:18]
I almost got killed crossing.
[58:19]
Center street.
[58:21]
A few years ago when I still
[58:22]
had I was not legally blind.
[58:26]
how many deaths?
[58:28]
It's a kind of take for that
[58:31]
person to wake up and have a
[58:32]
pilot project.
[58:34]
And I know I'm in your face and
[58:37]
I'm being direct I don't care I
[58:38]
don't want another person to
[58:39]
get killed on the streets
[58:42]
of boston because you got
[58:43]
concurrent things.
[58:45]
You got drones that don't work
[58:47]
about lighting on one side
[58:48]
there's a button on the other
[58:49]
side there's nothing.
[58:52]
I've walked center street from
[58:53]
roach brothers all the way to
[58:55]
the fight in the hospital more
[58:56]
than once.
[58:58]
I live about a mile away.
[59:00]
You want to come on a walk with
[59:02]
me to center street anytime,
[59:02]
anyplace?
[59:05]
Okay, I think thanks, but I see
[59:06]
my time is up.
[59:08]
I just have one quick follow up
[59:09]
bill.
[59:10]
This is free for you.
[59:12]
Uh, and I waited till my time
[59:14]
was up, so we just a short and
[59:15]
I'll try not to.
[59:16]
Be long.
[59:18]
Well, no, not yet, but just I
[59:20]
know you'd be advocated for
[59:21]
accessibility at the libraries
[59:21]
.
[59:22]
I can.
[59:23]
Answer that question more.
[59:24]
Okay.
[59:25]
>> but what.
[59:26]
>> I will tell you is ask
[59:27]
kristen mccosh that question.
[59:29]
Okay.
[59:31]
>> so it's something we need to
[59:32]
follow up on.
[59:32]
Yeah.
[59:33]
>> you want to have a
[59:34]
conversation with me later?
[59:34]
Absolutely.
[59:36]
>> let's go to the west roxbury
[59:37]
library someday.
[59:39]
and let's go to the.
[59:42]
Central library and read all
[59:44]
you city councilors read what's
[59:46]
on the library's website today
[59:46]
about accessibility.
[59:50]
You might be surprised what it
[59:52]
says good and bad.
[59:55]
That's an issue.
[59:57]
I will tell you this.
[59:59]
The library's trying to improve
[59:59]
it.
[1:00:02]
I'm really working hard at it
[1:00:03]
but they've had pitfalls.
[1:00:05]
You're going to spend the
[1:00:05]
money.
[1:00:07]
It always comes down to the
[1:00:07]
money.
[1:00:10]
Is the city going to give the
[1:00:12]
boston public library the money
[1:00:14]
to be the best library in the
[1:00:15]
world too?
[1:00:17]
Well, I suggest you take a look
[1:00:18]
at what seattle does.
[1:00:21]
Seattle has approximately the
[1:00:23]
same size population as the
[1:00:23]
city of boston.
[1:00:26]
Both cities are under 700,000
[1:00:27]
and residents.
[1:00:33]
Okay.
[1:00:34]
>> okay.
[1:00:34]
Yeah.
[1:00:34]
Thanks, bill.
[1:00:35]
You're welcome.
[1:00:37]
Look forward to seeing you in
[1:00:38]
west roxbury and, uh.
[1:00:38]
Um.
[1:00:40]
I still cruise the streets
[1:00:41]
of center street at least once
[1:00:42]
a month.
[1:00:44]
Yeah, well, uh, send me a text
[1:00:46]
message when you're there on
[1:00:47]
me on the street.
[1:00:47]
Um, okay.
[1:00:49]
Uh, thanks a lot, chair.
[1:00:51]
Thank you.
[1:00:52]
Council member.
[1:00:54]
I'll also take take six
[1:00:55]
minutes.
[1:00:55]
Um.
[1:00:59]
I'll set the clock now for
[1:01:00]
myself as well.
[1:01:05]
Thank you, bill and thank you.
[1:01:08]
Uh, cassandra for again for
[1:01:09]
being here for the important
[1:01:11]
testimony you are providing but
[1:01:14]
also your incredible leadership
[1:01:17]
on civil rights issues.
[1:01:19]
Supporting persons with
[1:01:21]
disabilities and supporting our
[1:01:22]
seniors.
[1:01:25]
Ensuring our open spaces spaces
[1:01:26]
throughout the city
[1:01:28]
commonwealth are accessible.
[1:01:32]
Disability rights are civil
[1:01:32]
rights.
[1:01:34]
Um.
[1:01:41]
Cassandra, I know you spoke
[1:01:42]
eloquently at the beginning
[1:01:45]
about concurrent street
[1:01:47]
crossing lighting and we
[1:01:50]
continue the conversation and I
[1:01:53]
agree with everything you said
[1:01:55]
both with both the pedestrian
[1:01:57]
and the vehicle can't have the
[1:01:59]
right of way at the same time.
[1:02:03]
It's it's really to me it's
[1:02:06]
really about respect for the
[1:02:07]
pedestrian respect for the
[1:02:09]
person with disability, respect
[1:02:12]
for our senior citizens or a
[1:02:13]
parent taking their little kid
[1:02:16]
across the street in the in the
[1:02:16]
crosswalk.
[1:02:17]
Um.
[1:02:25]
So on that note I, I was at a
[1:02:27]
location and there was a there
[1:02:29]
was a guy that was driving a
[1:02:32]
car and he had on new york
[1:02:35]
license plate and he was making
[1:02:37]
the turn at the same time when
[1:02:38]
people were trying to cross.
[1:02:40]
Him and.
[1:02:44]
He he almost missed them.
[1:02:47]
He was about 1ft or 2ft away
[1:02:48]
from the person in the
[1:02:49]
crosswalk.
[1:02:52]
And I said to him, um, you
[1:02:53]
know, you have to let the
[1:02:54]
people by cross.
[1:02:57]
He said he said to me he didn't
[1:02:58]
know me.
[1:02:58]
I didn't know him.
[1:03:00]
He said, well why do you have
[1:03:02]
but the light he had the right
[1:03:04]
of way which he does have the
[1:03:04]
right of way.
[1:03:07]
Um he said I have the right.
[1:03:09]
And I said, well, you do have
[1:03:11]
the right of way but so does
[1:03:12]
not the pedestrian.
[1:03:15]
And he said, well this is my
[1:03:16]
first time here.
[1:03:17]
How do I how do I know that.
[1:03:17]
Mhm.
[1:03:19]
>> well now he knows but.
[1:03:21]
But now he knows that's that's
[1:03:22]
right but what about someone
[1:03:25]
else that doesn't know the city
[1:03:26]
that doesn't know that
[1:03:30]
particular intersection and
[1:03:32]
they're they're they're making
[1:03:34]
the right turn at the same time
[1:03:35]
pedestrians are crossing.
[1:03:38]
Um but it's really not that
[1:03:40]
person's fault because they
[1:03:41]
really don't know the
[1:03:42]
neighborhood.
[1:03:44]
They don't know the lighting
[1:03:45]
and I'm not I'm not here to
[1:03:46]
blame anybody.
[1:03:49]
But why can't we come together
[1:03:53]
Acknowledge that it is a public
[1:03:55]
safety problem that we have in
[1:03:56]
the city.
[1:04:00]
And if the if they're not going
[1:04:02]
to make change here at city
[1:04:04]
hall, I do believe we might
[1:04:06]
have to make change in the
[1:04:07]
court system.
[1:04:09]
Absolutely because I don't
[1:04:11]
think I don't think the chief
[1:04:12]
of streets is going to make the
[1:04:12]
change for us.
[1:04:14]
I've asked them a bunch
[1:04:14]
of times.
[1:04:16]
My city council colleagues have
[1:04:17]
asked them as well.
[1:04:18]
They're not going to make the
[1:04:19]
change.
[1:04:20]
um.
[1:04:23]
>> but but do you think we can
[1:04:23]
bring this to court?
[1:04:25]
That's my question.
[1:04:27]
Um, I would like to ask one
[1:04:28]
question first.
[1:04:28]
Sure.
[1:04:29]
Go ahead.
[1:04:30]
Is the chief of street even
[1:04:31]
from boston?
[1:04:35]
Like do they live in the
[1:04:36]
perimeters of the area to even
[1:04:38]
see this themselves?
[1:04:40]
I think I think every
[1:04:42]
department head is required to
[1:04:43]
live in the city.
[1:04:43]
Okay, good.
[1:04:49]
And then the other part is yes
[1:04:51]
it needs to be escalated to a
[1:04:51]
higher level.
[1:04:54]
We've already tried everything
[1:04:55]
we could to reason with them.
[1:04:58]
We've done the best we could to
[1:05:00]
reason to make sure the
[1:05:02]
pedestrians are safe, but they
[1:05:06]
don't want to, you know, make
[1:05:09]
that simple gesture to be like
[1:05:09]
okay, cool.
[1:05:11]
Pedestrians are important too.
[1:05:13]
And not just the drivers.
[1:05:14]
Yes.
[1:05:18]
So without any further just
[1:05:19]
just let's just go to the next
[1:05:20]
level with it.
[1:05:23]
Yeah I am concerned the longer
[1:05:25]
we wait the likelihood that
[1:05:27]
there could be another accident
[1:05:29]
We want to stop that.
[1:05:30]
That's exactly right.
[1:05:31]
You're exactly right.
[1:05:33]
We want to stop it before it
[1:05:33]
gets worse.
[1:05:36]
And what happens if it's a
[1:05:38]
child in the crosswalk?
[1:05:40]
Um, what happens if it's a
[1:05:41]
senior citizen?
[1:05:43]
What happens if it's a person
[1:05:44]
in a wheelchair?
[1:05:46]
What happens if it's anybody?
[1:05:48]
it's a preventable situation
[1:05:51]
that could have been avoided
[1:05:53]
and that needs to be addressed
[1:05:54]
immediately.
[1:05:55]
Like as soon as possible
[1:05:56]
hopefully before the end
[1:05:59]
of this year to take them to
[1:06:01]
court for it if if it's even
[1:06:02]
possible.
[1:06:06]
And if possible me and bob can
[1:06:08]
go along and certainly well to
[1:06:08]
the court.
[1:06:09]
Yeah.
[1:06:11]
Yeah.
[1:06:13]
Let's go to court and make sure
[1:06:15]
you know pedestrians lives
[1:06:16]
matter to.
[1:06:18]
Yeah I agree I don't I don't
[1:06:20]
think anyone really wants to go
[1:06:20]
to court.
[1:06:22]
I think that's our last option
[1:06:24]
But I don't like you cassandra
[1:06:28]
I don't want to wait until an
[1:06:29]
accident happens again.
[1:06:33]
Um, I know there have been
[1:06:34]
several deaths in the city
[1:06:35]
of boston because of this.
[1:06:36]
Yeah.
[1:06:37]
Um.
[1:06:39]
>> concurrent jurisdiction,
[1:06:40]
street lighting related issue.
[1:06:45]
Um, but my time is almost up.
[1:06:50]
Um, let me let me just ask one
[1:06:51]
final question.
[1:06:52]
I'm going to I'm going to shut
[1:06:54]
off the, um, the clock in one
[1:06:54]
second.
[1:06:55]
It's about two.
[1:06:56]
It's about one.
[1:06:56]
Um.
[1:07:00]
So one issue that I've I've
[1:07:04]
focused on along for a while is
[1:07:07]
the lift for peop for people in
[1:07:10]
wheelchairs on the on the third
[1:07:12]
floor the entrance to the third
[1:07:14]
floor on city council.
[1:07:17]
Um the plaza area when you're
[1:07:20]
going in where the bricks and
[1:07:21]
you go through the security and
[1:07:24]
you kind of go around uh past
[1:07:25]
the elevators in there's the
[1:07:27]
lift that will bring you up to
[1:07:29]
the mezzanine with it's a lot
[1:07:31]
of kind of civic events.
[1:07:34]
I don't believe that area is
[1:07:37]
necessarily accessible to
[1:07:38]
persons with disabilities.
[1:07:39]
Yes, we do have a lift.
[1:07:45]
Um, but it can be challenging.
[1:07:48]
I know, I know many people have
[1:07:51]
not used the lift um, for for
[1:07:55]
various reasons but I am
[1:07:56]
uncomfortable at that
[1:07:58]
particular area of city hall
[1:07:59]
and I love I love this building
[1:08:01]
but I am uncomfortable with
[1:08:04]
that part of the building
[1:08:06]
because I feel it is not
[1:08:08]
accessible to persons with
[1:08:10]
disabilities and seniors.
[1:08:10]
Mhm.
[1:08:13]
Seniors also trying to walk up
[1:08:16]
the stairs coming from the
[1:08:17]
third floor senate plaza.
[1:08:18]
Very challenging.
[1:08:21]
Very very difficult.
[1:08:23]
Also the hand railings if you
[1:08:25]
notice the hand railings are
[1:08:27]
kind of awkward and they're
[1:08:30]
almost in the center the center
[1:08:33]
of the of the brick stairs.
[1:08:34]
They're not laid out properly
[1:08:35]
and in my opinion.
[1:08:37]
I do want us to.
[1:08:42]
Study on how we can make it
[1:08:42]
more accessible.
[1:08:45]
But bill I think you wanted to
[1:08:46]
speak and want to give you the
[1:08:47]
opportunity because I'm I'm out
[1:08:48]
of time.
[1:08:49]
But bill, you have the floor.
[1:08:53]
I actually visited the third
[1:08:54]
floor last friday.
[1:08:57]
There's a wonderful volunteer
[1:08:58]
is only there on fridays.
[1:09:00]
His name is jerry.
[1:09:02]
He probably knows the building
[1:09:03]
better than all of us.
[1:09:05]
according to one of the
[1:09:07]
volunteers that was there
[1:09:07]
today.
[1:09:10]
He did bring me to the lift.
[1:09:13]
He said you just have to have
[1:09:15]
security or volunteer help you
[1:09:16]
to open it to go on.
[1:09:18]
I didn't do it.
[1:09:20]
So I can't address them.
[1:09:21]
I will talk about the railings
[1:09:22]
across the city hall.
[1:09:25]
I brought that up when we did
[1:09:26]
the walkthrough earlier this
[1:09:26]
year.
[1:09:29]
A lot of the rail, all the
[1:09:30]
railings, a rectangle.
[1:09:34]
Why not have a round look?
[1:09:37]
Are canes easy to handle?
[1:09:40]
Now there is a problem with
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city hall and it looks
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beautiful.
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The stairs are nice and shiny
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foyer.
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I think they are dangerous now
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that I'm legally blind but to
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my side people dangerous from
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the beginning even more so I
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think I walk very slowly up and
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down those stairs and I can
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demonstrate to you folks how I
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was taught at the college
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center for the blind by a
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wonderful mobility trainer
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named augustine.
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Yeah, I'm giving him a plug.
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He saved my life a number
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of times recently through his
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training and I can demonstrate
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to you after this how I was
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taught to navigate crosswalks
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that don't have these systems.
[1:10:28]
It's very interesting to watch
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the traffic stop because
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of what I was taught.
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All the railings in this
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building need to be changed
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very expensive but they'll be
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safer for the seniors who come
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to this building actually
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anybody.
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mhm.
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Because they're not rectangle
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round you know round.
[1:10:51]
I will in closing thank
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commissioner mccosh because she
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and I she addressed a very
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serious question I had about
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the new elevator.
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There were buildings in the
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city commercial buildings.
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They don't have the button
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panel anymore on the elevator.
[1:11:07]
Everything is video monitored.
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Thank GOD for security when I
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was doing work two years ago
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when this he put area
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commissioners was the cautious
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response was wonderful.
[1:11:19]
She said I'm not going to quote
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to paraphrase.
[1:11:23]
There will be no video monitors
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in the elevators in this
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building.
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Thank you, commissioner mccosh
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for being that clear.
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Well thank you bill.
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Thank you cassandra.
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Um, my time is up.
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I do want to give my colleagues
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an opportunity if they want to
[1:11:44]
have a closing statement, but I
[1:11:46]
do want to give an opportunity
[1:11:47]
for cassandra and bill.
[1:11:50]
Um, give you the opportunity as
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well.
[1:11:52]
If you'd like to give a closing
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statement.
[1:11:54]
You're ready.
[1:11:55]
Um, first.
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Let okay.
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Let me ask, um, councilor weber
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No.
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I'm sorry.
[1:12:03]
I'm sorry.
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Council shouldn't.
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I'm going to give my colleagues
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two minutes for closing
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statement.
[1:12:10]
Um, and then and then I'm going
[1:12:12]
to give both of you, um, an
[1:12:13]
opportunity to give the closing
[1:12:14]
statement as well.
[1:12:17]
So council louijeune you have
[1:12:17]
the floor.
[1:12:18]
Thank you.
[1:12:18]
>> I'll be brief.
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>> I want to thank you, bill,
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for your advocacy and for being
[1:12:21]
here.
[1:12:23]
I want to thank you, of course,
[1:12:24]
cassandra, for all the work
[1:12:25]
that you do put your travel
[1:12:26]
fella to be the boss on.
[1:12:27]
Really appreciate it.
[1:12:29]
Um, and we obviously bill made
[1:12:31]
it clear cassandra made it
[1:12:32]
clear that the city has a lot
[1:12:33]
more work to do and look
[1:12:33]
forward to.
[1:12:35]
You know, it would be great to
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hear from the disability
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commission or from the
[1:12:38]
administration about their
[1:12:39]
efforts to see sort of where
[1:12:41]
they go down the street from
[1:12:42]
their perspective sort of why
[1:12:43]
we are lagging behind so much.
[1:12:47]
But um, I, I know like I stated
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that even in my neighborhood on
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my street there are
[1:12:50]
accessibility major
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accessibility issues that I
[1:12:53]
want uh, to help solve in the
[1:12:54]
city.
[1:12:55]
So thank you for your work.
[1:12:56]
Uh, I want to give another big
[1:12:58]
shout out to the workers at
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national bill press for all
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that they do.
[1:13:00]
For.
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>> uh, all of our communities
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and especially those who.
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Are blind.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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>> thank you,
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councilor louijeune.
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I want to give council weber
[1:13:14]
the opportunity to give a
[1:13:16]
closing closing statement as
[1:13:16]
well.
[1:13:17]
Um.
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Two minutes, consul weber.
[1:13:18]
Okay.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Uh, cassandra and bill, it
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just, uh it's it's great to see
[1:13:24]
you here.
[1:13:27]
Uh, and I, you know, hope you
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realize how much of a
[1:13:30]
difference your advocacy makes
[1:13:32]
for people in this city.
[1:13:35]
Uh, you know, it's like you you
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really elevate this issue and
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we talk about, you know, making
[1:13:40]
this a priority when we look at
[1:13:42]
all other kinds of issues.
[1:13:44]
I know you know myself and the
[1:13:46]
chair councilor louijeune my
[1:13:47]
other colleagues will be
[1:13:48]
thinking about you know, what
[1:13:50]
you have said today and what
[1:13:51]
you said in many other hearings
[1:13:53]
Uh, so I just you know.
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Your hard work.
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Is it's it's it's very valuable
[1:13:59]
in this city for people who
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maybe can't even make it here,
[1:14:02]
uh, to speak up.
[1:14:03]
So I just want to thank you.
[1:14:04]
For for.
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Being the folks who who.
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You know, highlight this and
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elevate this, uh, for us to
[1:14:10]
sort of taken.
[1:14:13]
To more with so, uh, I know we
[1:14:14]
have our marching orders and,
[1:14:16]
uh, just want to thank you for
[1:14:16]
being here.
[1:14:17]
Thanks, chair.
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Thank you.
[1:14:20]
>> council weber.
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I checked with, um, shayne.
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Uh, we do not have any public
[1:14:30]
testimony, but before I give a
[1:14:32]
closing statement, I do want to
[1:14:33]
say thank you to shane and to
[1:14:37]
ethan for, uh, conducting, um,
[1:14:39]
organizing a very helpful
[1:14:40]
hearing.
[1:14:44]
Um, well, I'm going to I'm
[1:14:45]
going to hold off on my closing
[1:14:46]
statement.
[1:14:48]
I want to give, um, cassandra
[1:14:52]
and bill the opportunity to you
[1:14:54]
to go first and then I'll and
[1:14:55]
I'll kind of briefly conclude
[1:14:56]
after the after.
[1:14:59]
So bill or who would like to go
[1:14:59]
first.
[1:15:00]
Because I was.
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>> in.
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First place.
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Okay.
[1:15:03]
Okay.
[1:15:04]
>> because cassandra, you have
[1:15:05]
the floor.
[1:15:05]
All right.
[1:15:08]
Um, I would like to say to
[1:15:10]
everyone thank you for taking
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the time to invite us into this
[1:15:18]
space to, uh, have our voices
[1:15:19]
be heard.
[1:15:19]
Um.
[1:15:22]
>> I consider these
[1:15:24]
opportunities pretty rare and,
[1:15:25]
you know, great opportunities
[1:15:29]
to be heard to be a part of the
[1:15:32]
progress and advocacy
[1:15:33]
throughout the commonwealth
[1:15:34]
of massachusetts.
[1:15:37]
And it's been a long time
[1:15:41]
coming for a lot of us to, um,
[1:15:44]
speak on really important
[1:15:45]
situations.
[1:15:47]
Happening and we hope to
[1:15:50]
continue coming back for more
[1:15:51]
discussions.
[1:15:53]
And I hope that what we talked
[1:15:56]
about today also makes more
[1:15:58]
progress and we get what we are
[1:15:59]
looking for so that everyone
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can navigate the commonwealth
[1:16:03]
of massachusetts safely and
[1:16:03]
comfortably.
[1:16:06]
Thank you cassandra.
[1:16:07]
Excellent testimony.
[1:16:09]
excellent closing statement.
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Um, bill, you have the floor.
[1:16:13]
Thank you.
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City council, for and for this
[1:16:19]
opportunity to come before the
[1:16:19]
council again.
[1:16:23]
And the most important thing
[1:16:25]
for me is I hope you listen.
[1:16:28]
I hope all the commission had
[1:16:30]
department heads also listen.
[1:16:32]
This is real time.
[1:16:34]
It's not facebook.
[1:16:36]
It's not instagram.
[1:16:39]
When I walk out this door and
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head for the streets I have no
[1:16:42]
idea.
[1:16:44]
But the two of us will be
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facing changes every minute.
[1:16:50]
I thank you for the opportunity
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once again.
[1:16:54]
Any time any place in the city
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the district.
[1:16:58]
Lastly mayor will you're also
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invited.
[1:17:00]
I've been trying for two years.
[1:17:02]
Hopefully one of your staff
[1:17:04]
members will respond this time.
[1:17:06]
Thank you all.
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Last thing I think to see is it
[1:17:10]
has a little secret.
[1:17:11]
It's a lot of fun.
[1:17:13]
I found incredible people over
[1:17:14]
the last six years.
[1:17:16]
Very lucky.
[1:17:18]
Wonderful support.
[1:17:19]
Thank you very much.
[1:17:20]
Thank you bill.
[1:17:25]
I'm going to give myself two
[1:17:26]
minutes as well.
[1:17:30]
First I want to say thank you
[1:17:31]
to my city council colleagues
[1:17:35]
for being here for their
[1:17:38]
important dialog and input that
[1:17:38]
they provided.
[1:17:41]
Excellent questions as well.
[1:17:42]
I want to say thank you to bill
[1:17:46]
and cassandra for your advocacy
[1:17:47]
and for being here as well.
[1:17:50]
And I think you testimony and
[1:17:52]
if testified before this
[1:17:56]
committee many times but it's
[1:17:57]
important for me it's important
[1:18:01]
for our colleagues to listen to
[1:18:05]
you, to hear from you, to
[1:18:07]
understand what you are going
[1:18:09]
through and through your life
[1:18:11]
experience, through your
[1:18:11]
testimony.
[1:18:14]
That makes us better count
[1:18:16]
better city councilors because
[1:18:19]
we can be more effective in
[1:18:21]
advocating for persons with
[1:18:21]
disabilities.
[1:18:23]
We know.
[1:18:27]
Disability rights uh, civil
[1:18:27]
rights.
[1:18:29]
There's more.
[1:18:30]
Work we need to do.
[1:18:35]
As a as a member of the
[1:18:36]
disability rights community,
[1:18:38]
I'm an active member of the
[1:18:39]
disabled american veterans.
[1:18:40]
Yeah.
[1:18:43]
>> I do want to say thank you
[1:18:45]
to you because what you are
[1:18:48]
advocating for is helping all
[1:18:49]
persons with disabilities
[1:18:51]
across the commonwealth, not
[1:18:52]
just yourself.
[1:18:55]
You are making life easier,
[1:18:58]
healthier and more accessible
[1:19:00]
to so many more people.
[1:19:02]
Whether they're older or
[1:19:03]
younger.
[1:19:04]
But you are setting the example
[1:19:08]
For a new generation of persons
[1:19:11]
with disabilities to advocate
[1:19:14]
on their behalf to ensure that
[1:19:15]
they are treated with respect.
[1:19:17]
They they are treated with
[1:19:20]
dignity because as we all know
[1:19:24]
,disability rights uh civil
[1:19:26]
rights absolutely.
[1:19:27]
And we can't do enough for
[1:19:29]
persons with disabilities in
[1:19:29]
this city.
[1:19:32]
We have a lot more work to do
[1:19:33]
and I'm honored to work with
[1:19:37]
you to call you friends and
[1:19:39]
let's keep up the conversation
[1:19:40]
in advocacy as well.
[1:19:42]
Absolutely.
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>> absolutely.
[1:19:43]
>> thank you.
[1:19:44]
>> thank you.
[1:19:45]
Thank you.
[1:19:50]
This this hearing on docket
[1:19:52]
0335 order for a hearing to
[1:19:54]
discuss accessibility issues in
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boston and boston is concluded.
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Marvelous san.