[0:02] Whoever had dreams. Oh, yikes. Hope he's okay. I have

[0:09] dreams that I'm in this building, that stairs are collapsing

[0:13] at some clients. Can you hear me now?

[0:24] Which I have had ever since 2013. Yeah, that was

[0:27] a little. Can you hear me out there? We do?

[0:34] Louder, okay? Sure enough. Check one shooting.

[0:45] More louder. Cutting surgery. How about now? Welcome, everyone, to

[0:50] today's Boulder County Parks and open space advisory committee meeting.

[0:54] We've reached our start time. These meetings are held hybrid

[0:58] via in a hybrid format via zoom webinar in just

[1:02] a moment, I will start the webinar. Please note that

[1:05] it takes typically about 30 seconds for zoom to bring.

[1:10] Members of the public into this session as attendees. Just

[1:14] a friendly reminder to all PosTC members, presenters and public

[1:18] speakers, please make sure within two inches of the microphone

[1:21] when speaking. This helps us ensure, when we maintain an

[1:24] accurate public record. Members of the committee. Are you ready?

[1:31] Yes. Recording in progress. All right, we are recording. And

[1:36] you could start whenever. All right. Welcome, everybody, to the

[1:42] Thursday, January 26, Parks and open Space advisory committee meeting.

[1:48] My name is Janet George and I'll be chairing tonight.

[1:51] Our past chairman. Is pretty happy. But with that, I

[1:58] will start by saying I want to give a big

[2:02] thank. You to our past chairman, Tony Lewis, who actually

[2:06] did more than a year. For a variety of reasons.

[2:09] And covered for me at the last meeting, too, so

[2:12] thanks a bunch. Tony, you can be a hard act

[2:14] to follow. All right. Yeah, let's do a round of

[2:19] applause. All right, so that was our call to order.

[2:23] The next thing is our roll call. So trace baker.

[2:31] Excused, Carol Byerly. Excused, Janet. George, I'm present. Christine Johnson.

[2:39] Present. Vicky Lawrence, present. Tony lewis here. Joan lutz here.

[2:47] And John White here. All right. Derek Turner. Oh, Derek

[2:51] Turner. How does that. Thanks to her. All right, next

[2:58] agenda item is approval of the monthly minutes from last

[3:01] month. Did everybody read them? Do I have a motion?

[3:07] Christine johnson. I did not. Get the mentioned organization chart?

[3:15] Did anyone else. Joan. Lots. Pose, act. No. First got

[3:22] done. I think Vicky Lawrence Posak, I think some of

[3:27] us got it in our notebook because we're new. All

[3:31] right. Renata, can we get that? Okay. I have a

[3:37] question. Hi, this is Vivian. Parks and open space. Are

[3:40] you talking about the new. Organization. I sent that during

[3:45] the last meeting in an email. But I can resend

[3:49] it. Christine. So you didn't get it. Okay, I'll. Get

[3:51] it to you. Thank you. It's still in its rough

[3:54] form of just the big block. Yeah, and I searched

[3:57] for your name, and I didn't see it. Yeah, it

[3:59] doesn't. Have an EMC. No, I mean from you. Oh,

[4:03] okay. I searched my trash, okay? Is that different than

[4:07] this one? Yeah, it's blue. It's a real rough draft.

[4:10] Kind of sketch down. Yeah, I got a blue one

[4:13] in. This one. Yeah. Okay. All right, so it's in

[4:21] our email or about to be in christine's case. Thank

[4:24] you. In that case, I don't have a problem with

[4:26] the minutes. All right. Do we have anyone want to

[4:30] make a motion to approve them? So moved. So moved.

[4:34] Second. All right, let's do a vote on approving the

[4:39] minutes as they are written. All in favor? Aye. Now

[4:44] that I said I sent a correction to Renata, there

[4:49] is a grammatical error. But nothing of substance. Okay. All

[4:56] right. But otherwise. I. I'm sure Renata will make that

[5:01] change. She's got it. Thank you. For that, John. All

[5:06] right. Minutes are approved with the correction that John has

[5:11] asked for. Presentations. Our first presentation will be the Cliffside

[5:18] property acquisition. And Tina Burkhart will be doing that. And

[5:23] just an interesting note on this is that even though

[5:26] it's a property acquisition, it's information only. It's not one

[5:29] that we are making a recommendation on because of the

[5:33] funding source. Because of the funding source, and I suspect

[5:35] we'll hear some more about that? Yes. Okay. Good evening.

[5:42] My name is tina burker. Land officer supervisor. So I'm

[5:47] excited to talk to you about this Cliffside acquisition, but

[5:49] first, I'd like to read our land acknowledgment for much

[5:53] longer than parks and open space's history of stewarding open

[5:55] space, the land in this community has been important. To

[5:58] american indian, urban, native, indigenous and other cultural communities that

[6:02] continue to live here. We are making meaningful changes to

[6:05] how we do our work that includ. Include them, incorporate

[6:07] the perspectives, and honor their land stewardship. Legacy parks and

[6:11] open space operates within modern legal constructs of landownership to

[6:15] Stuart Boulder county open space and accomplish these efforts on

[6:18] behalf of our community. As I mentioned, I'm here to

[6:22] provide you the details of our proposal to acquire fee.

[6:25] Title property to approximately 53 acres of vacant land for

[6:29] its appraised value of $1.16. Million. The Cliffside property is

[6:36] located northeast of Lions. That red circle is the general

[6:40] area of the property. It is located on Stone Canyon

[6:44] Road and adjacent to the county south down Indian Mountain

[6:48] open space property. And it is bordered on two sides

[6:53] by county open space. The Neil property to the north

[6:56] and as I mentioned, the southbound indian mountain property to

[6:59] the east and BLM land is to the south. Acquisition

[7:04] of this property would complete open space acquisition efforts on

[7:07] the west side of dow flat. What are you seeing?

[7:11] You're seeing that one? Okay. Here is a closer view

[7:18] of the parcel. That road. On the east side there

[7:23] is Stone Canyon Road. The property has an address of

[7:28] 1810 Stone Canyon road and is located about one and

[7:31] three quarter miles north of Highway 36. It is owned

[7:36] by Cindy and David Johnson. The property did have a

[7:39] residence, but it was burned. In the stone canyon fire

[7:42] and has since been cleaned up and is now vacant.

[7:46] This acquisition will be paid for with conservation trust fund

[7:49] or state lottery dollars, and that purchase price of one

[7:53] point. $16 million for the 53 acre proceed. Includes one

[7:59] development. Right. And all minerals. The photo that you're looking

[8:03] at here is looking mostly south. And the road you

[8:06] see. There is Stone Canyon Road. Here. Is an aerial

[8:13] of the property. It looks very brown. But you can

[8:18] see the driveway and where the residence was sort of

[8:21] right below. The red pin there. And that's where the

[8:25] residents once stood. And you can see the burn scars.

[8:30] Kind of above that, which is actually to the east

[8:32] because it's north is to the left and then further

[8:36] east. Is a whole row of relatively steep cliffs, hence

[8:41] the name. Here's a nice winter shot. I think this

[8:45] is looking northwest from the property. And then this view

[8:50] is from the property, looking uphill and east, and you

[8:53] can see the edge of the residence that used to

[8:55] be. There prior to closing. A phase one environmental assessment

[9:00] report will be completed to confirm that no environmental hazards

[9:03] exist on the property. And I'm going to go through

[9:06] our comp plan designations next. But there's. A nice photo.

[9:13] So the Cliffside property has several comp plan designations. The

[9:18] first is it's entirely in the Rabbit Mountain. Rabbit Mountain

[9:22] Environmental conservation area. And the entire property is in a

[9:26] high biodiversity area with a b one score of outstanding

[9:30] significance. In the northwest portion of the property lies in

[9:35] an agriculturally, archaeologically sensitive area. And we have a few

[9:41] more designations. The property is entirely in the rabbit mountain

[9:44] natural area, and most of the property on the west

[9:48] side contains significant agricultural lands of local importance. So this

[9:55] property is currently used for private passive recreation. As I

[9:58] mentioned, there used to be residence. On there. As for

[10:01] future uses, the property could be managed as part of

[10:03] the rabbit mountain complex. But since it lies on the

[10:06] west side of indian mountain, it could also be managed

[10:08] as a separate property if the county were to decide

[10:11] to use it as part of its land restoration. Efforts

[10:15] with a native tribal nation like the adjacent south town

[10:19] indian mountain property. This property will be closed to the

[10:22] public. Is it? And I'm happy to answer any questions

[10:25] that you might have. All right. John, go ahead. John

[10:34] white. Is there an open space map online? Because I

[10:41] went up to the site today and looking around. And

[10:45] all I have is the big county open space map

[10:48] and. I was trying to figure out where it fits.

[10:55] Here are awesome. They're perfect. But when I try to

[11:00] zoom in on. Is there a way to zoom in?

[11:04] Yes. This might be out of my knowledge base, but

[11:07] there isn't. A public, online, web based county open space

[11:13] map where you can, I believe, put in different open

[11:17] space parcels, and it's a gis map, and we have

[11:21] our whole gis team. Here. Go ahead. Good evening. Janice

[11:26] Wisman, real estate division manager. I'll just chime in and

[11:29] add. That properties that we bring to you are not

[11:31] going to be on the public map until after we

[11:34] go. To this meeting and then also to the hearing,

[11:37] and then close on the property, and then they'll be

[11:40] added to the map, so you will never be able

[11:41] to find them on the county's website until we've closed,

[11:45] yeah. But. It said in your description. It said it's

[11:50] between this open space property and this BLM. I was

[11:54] just trying to figure out where it fits. Right. And

[11:56] so the maps that Tina is referencing that are online.

[11:59] You can zoom in on those. There's an interactive map

[12:01] that you can do probably best. On from a computer

[12:04] to get a more easy description of what you're looking

[12:08] at, but you could do it on a phone. As

[12:10] well. I'll do it on the computer. Thanks. Okay. Thank

[12:14] you. I'll get Christine next. Christine johnson poseack I'm wondering.

[12:23] About the severity of the fire. And any possible impacts

[12:27] to the plant community. And the rest of the site.

[12:36] Well, next week we'll be out there for the phase

[12:39] one environmental assessment and presumably. We'll discover anything that might

[12:44] have happened. It's my understanding, though, that. The residents and

[12:48] where the fire was. That's been cleaned. And cleaned up

[12:54] as much as it can be. And I don't know

[12:57] how far. What it did to the rest of the

[12:59] property, but again, We'll hopefully find that out next week.

[13:03] Thanks. Vicky. Vicky Lawrence Posek. My question is, why is

[13:10] this being paid for by lottery funds? What's the difference

[13:14] what has made the payment method for this? So this

[13:17] is just my curiosity. Different. It's to preserve the flexibility

[13:22] of future use of the property. If this property were

[13:26] to be part of the county's new efforts of land

[13:31] restoration. To give it to a native tribal nation that

[13:36] is not an open space use. And so if we

[13:41] use conservation trust fund dollars, Then we can keep it

[13:45] in open space, but we have more flexibility down the

[13:47] road as to what to do with the property. Thank

[13:50] you. All right. Tony. Tony lewis. Thanks, Tina, for the

[13:56] presentation. The total amount is. 1.16, right? I'm just

[14:06] trying to understand. So the acre fee is 20,121, which

[14:11] gets you to 1000. And 60,000. The mineral rights are

[14:16] 100,000. So that all adds up. It says. One building,

[14:19] right? At a million 60. But the billing, right, is

[14:24] just contained within the acreage, correct? It is. It's just

[14:27] two ways of looking at how to value a property.

[14:32] We tend to look at properties from a per acre

[14:35] value, but also per building right value. And iterate somewhere

[14:41] close. In this case, there was an appraisal done, and

[14:43] that was. A number. Okay, so it's one in the

[14:47] same, in essence. I'm curious. And this may be a

[14:53] Janice question. With the building, right? Does that just remain

[14:58] intact? For as long as it's conservation land, trust land,

[15:02] and now pos land. Once this deal is done. There

[15:06] it goes. Hi. Janice Wisman again. I think I'm understanding

[15:11] your question, but if I don't. Get it. Refine it

[15:14] for me. Okay. So the county does acquire the building

[15:19] right with the property. It doesn't sit on the property

[15:23] anymore because it's no longer usable there, but. The county

[15:26] still holds that building, right? We do not give that

[15:30] building right back to any other land. We don't move

[15:34] it somewhere else. So it's not technically there and usable

[15:37] anymore because it's now open space and. It's not usable

[15:41] elsewhere because it's open space, but the county owns and

[15:45] buys. That interest from the private landowner, which removes it

[15:49] from the possibility of having a house on it. Also

[15:52] because the county has purchased the property itself. Tell me,

[15:56] Louis Posek, is that always the case, Dan? But.

[16:07] It's no longer officially attached to that property and usable.

[16:09] Why? Because. We don't put houses on open space, but

[16:14] we do. Put residences. Times. Whole other conversation about the

[16:20] caretaker residents that we've done once. That was a property

[16:25] that was acquired with the idea of putting a residence

[16:28] on it. This is about open space. And buying property

[16:33] and removing the building rights from them. They're still in

[16:36] the county's. Asset. And the value of the asset is

[16:40] still there, but. It's not dedicated to that property anymore.

[16:45] It's been lifted as a possibility. And is that always

[16:50] the case with every open space purchase? And. Is that

[16:55] department policy or. Is that superseded by some other. Regulation

[17:02] or statute or, like, why? Because it relates to. All

[17:08] of the properties that we purchased with sales tax and.

[17:12] So that's the law, that when we buy something for

[17:14] sales tax, it has to be. Set aside for an

[17:17] open space use. And then the policy and practice part

[17:21] of it is applied. If we buy something with CTF,

[17:23] money, Conservation trust fund money or general fund money, which

[17:27] is very, both of those are very rare. So is

[17:30] it possible to purchase those properties? With Conservation Trust fund.

[17:36] Or general op money and keep the building permit intact.

[17:40] So general fund money, yes. General ops money, no. Ops

[17:43] and capital are different. This is capital. Okay? If we

[17:47] had general funding allocation from the board to acquire a

[17:50] piece of property, then, yes, we could do something different

[17:53] if we programmatically in department policy wise decided to do

[17:57] that. But our internal policy and our practice to keep

[18:01] our open space program intact is to treat every property

[18:05] essentially as open space, regardless of whether we're using those

[18:09] other sources and we've only done those other sources a

[18:12] handful of times over the county's 50 years of having

[18:16] a department. Okay? Not to go too far down. This

[18:19] rabbit hole. Sorry. Trying to understand. On an ag purchase.

[18:24] Let's say this was an ag property, 53 acres. And

[18:28] it had one building. Right. Does that automatically also expire

[18:31] on that property but is still held by the county.

[18:34] It could be usable if we felt that we needed.

[18:39] But that's where you get into the nuance that we've

[18:41] talked about over months and months with the lawyers about

[18:44] how you need to actually have the house on the

[18:46] property. Rather than just the building. Right. In order to

[18:49] use that building. Right. So. You have to then rehab

[18:52] the house and make it into what's livable for a

[18:54] tenant. Because we're not in the business of buying houses

[18:57] or providing housing. We're in the business of acquiring open

[19:01] space and acquiring housing that goes with a piece of

[19:05] property that we have to buy can be used for

[19:08] open space purposes, or it can be carved off and

[19:11] sold. Which we've done many, many times, where we felt

[19:13] like we didn't need the house. Okay. Thank you very

[19:17] much. It helps. Yeah. I think I still have questions

[19:21] that we can talk. About later still about policy versus

[19:24] sales tax language versus. Trying to figure the bottom line

[19:29] to think about is if we use sales tax for

[19:30] it, it's legally not going to be usable there. And

[19:35] then if we use these other funds, which I say

[19:37] we've only done a small handful of times. That's a

[19:39] possibility that's where the bright line is. Great. Thank you.

[19:43] Thanks. All right. Derek. Derek Turner. I guess I'm curious

[19:51] about the funding as well. Is there a pool of

[19:56] trust fund money that. Was allocated to the county. Is

[20:01] this a grant that's been applied for? This. Janice whiskeman

[20:07] again. I'll just stay up here. So the Colorado lottery.

[20:14] Has obviously proceeds from the lottery program. 50% of that

[20:17] goes to great outdoors Colorado and gets allocated out on

[20:21] a grant making basis for all the things that great

[20:23] outdoors Colorado. Goko does if you're familiar with that. The

[20:27] other 50%? Is allocated. Around the state. By municipality and

[20:34] county, so all the governments get a share of that

[20:37] money based on a per capita basis, so that gets

[20:40] divvied up that way. The county's allocation is around $515,000

[20:44] a year, and we typically have saved that for things

[20:49] we can't use sales tax money for, so it builds

[20:51] up over time. At the end of last year, the

[20:55] balance was just under $4.7 million. And then each year,

[21:01] The Office of Financial Management budgets that $515,000 for us

[21:05] to use if we want to. And then when we

[21:08] need more, we just ask for a budget amendment, which

[21:10] is what? We're doing in this case. Thanks. Because we

[21:12] have the fund balance. Okay. I am curious a little

[21:19] bit about the. I understand it's information only because of

[21:23] the funding source. I wasn't aware that that's kind of.

[21:26] If that's in. The bylaws or otherwise. Just a policy.

[21:30] It feels like this is an open space use. And

[21:33] is certainly relevant. To the program. But maybe just a

[21:40] knit to pick. That. We only actually give recommendations if

[21:46] it's open space dollars. Is that Janice Wisman again? That's

[21:49] correct, because that's in the sales tax language that it

[21:52] set up the relationship. For the advisory committee to do

[21:56] is give recommendations for use of sales tax funding. It's

[22:00] particularly important, as you know, when we. Have a disposition

[22:04] which is a carve off for road widening or utility

[22:07] taking or something like that. There's a specific section that

[22:10] requires. That. So we do that, and that's why we

[22:15] bring you everything that we're going. To spend sales tax

[22:17] money on. And then we're here now because we want

[22:19] you to. Know about these other things. We do something

[22:23] similar when we get a donation? And we did get

[22:26] a donation of a conservation easement interest this month, and

[22:29] Heidi is going to tell you about it because she's

[22:30] our acting director tonight, so we want to tell you

[22:33] about those as well. But it streamlines the process significantly.

[22:38] For us to be able to work quickly on these

[22:41] real estate timings. To do the deals and get those

[22:45] things done quickly. Without having to time it so that

[22:50] we can wait for the next POSAc meeting. This particular

[22:53] one. We haven't closed one yet, but sometimes we might

[22:56] have to do that really fast and. So that's why

[22:58] we have. A practice of bringing these to you as

[23:02] information items. Thanks. Final evaluation. Well, I guess maybe a

[23:10] change of subject, because. I remember, I think. At either

[23:15] a previous meeting. Wanting to know a little more about

[23:19] the preamble and the Boulder county's commitment. To working. With.

[23:25] Native, indigenous and other cultural communities. And you mentioned the

[23:29] potential future possibilities for list land. I remember hearing the

[23:32] same thing about haystack. Mountain. I would love sometime maybe

[23:37] later this year, this winter, to have a presentation on

[23:41] that subject information. Only. Just to tell us a little

[23:45] more about maybe what you're thinking about. As an aside,

[23:49] I've heard through some folks that I know that work.

[23:53] In this field that Boulder county recently hired somebody who

[23:55] I hear is really fantastic at tribal consultations. And I

[24:00] don't know. If we could hear from her, that would

[24:02] be great. Janice whispering again, I'll give you a nutshell

[24:05] today and say that absolutely at some point, we could

[24:08] give you an update. It is on a slow roll,

[24:10] though, because it took the county quite a while to

[24:13] find this. Person. Her name is Karen Wilde, and she's

[24:16] been on the job for maybe just a few weeks.

[24:19] She works directly. In the office of county administrator. And

[24:24] very closely for the board. And the board is just

[24:26] starting to. Consider how it might do land restoration, which

[24:32] is the phrase that we're using right now. Because. It's

[24:35] not land reparations. Reparations usually is about cash, so we're.

[24:39] Trying to differentiate that, and we are starting to do

[24:44] things like this where this property happens. To be adjacent

[24:47] to what's technically called south down because that's the precursor

[24:51] to CMax, which was the owner at the time. That

[24:55] we got the property, but it's known as indian mountain,

[24:58] and it is very important. To all of the tribes

[25:02] that used to be here, and so there are some

[25:04] restrictions on use. For that. We can't have the public

[25:07] there, but we can allow the tribes. And native american

[25:11] use to happen. So the board right now, our commissioners.

[25:16] They're just getting started on what does this look like

[25:19] and how would we do this? And so what you've

[25:21] heard about. I know Derek is the Haystack Mountain property.

[25:24] Because that's an iconic landmark, not just for those of

[25:27] us who are here now, but to those who were

[25:30] here for eons before us. And so the question. Has

[25:35] percolated to the point where. Not only has Karen been

[25:39] hired to work on tribal relations in general, but one

[25:43] of her projects and it's only one of her projects

[25:45] is going to be helping the county develop a strategy

[25:48] for this land restoration process. And I'm going to be

[25:51] involved in that to the extent that. They need. Our

[25:55] real estate assistance. Tina's already helped me so far because

[25:58] she went to a meeting. When I was on vacation.

[26:00] So the two of us are going to be involved

[26:02] in that? We have barely gotten started working on that.

[26:06] We have no idea what the commissioners might want to

[26:08] do for direction on that. There's been no conversation yet

[26:12] with the full board. So whether we be ready to

[26:15] do something this fall or maybe, perhaps by. Your next

[26:19] retreat or sometime next year. I just don't know it's

[26:23] going to. Take a long time because Karen is wonderful

[26:25] as she is. There's only one person and she's got

[26:27] all kinds of other things. She's doing for the travel

[26:31] relations effort that the county is making. Thank you for

[26:34] that update. That's really helpful. All right, Posac. Any more

[26:39] questions? Vicky, did you have one? Pretty much. What? Okay.

[26:45] Very good. All right. Thank you. Do we have anybody

[26:50] in house that wants to make a public comment? See

[26:54] no one. Do we have anybody online that wants to

[26:57] make a comment? Yeah. Those on the zoom call. If

[27:00] you would like to make comments on the current agenda

[27:02] item. Please use the raised hand feature so we can

[27:05] call on you. I don't see any raised hands. All

[27:11] right. Postac any more discussion? Last chance or questions? All

[27:16] right. Thank you. Thank you very much, Tina, great presentation.

[27:20] And, Janice, thanks for all the extra. Information. All right.

[27:25] Agenda item 4.2 is Asset Management System implementation progress report.

[27:35] And we'll have Christy given us the lowdown on this.

[27:39] And this is another information only item.

[27:48] Hi. My name is Christy Spielman. I am here to

[27:56] give you an asset management system update. I've been with

[28:00] Boulder county for a little over 18 months, and I'm

[28:03] here. Joined by both several other members of my team

[28:07] from the data solutions. So. I have an intern, Nolan,

[28:10] who's in the room here, and Meredith Williams, my supervisor.

[28:15] The manager for the data solutions team. We are part

[28:17] of the Strategics foundations team on the planning side. Of

[28:23] the organization. So I started my career as a GIS

[28:28] analyst. So, again, geographic information system. So you saw. The

[28:32] maps. It's all data. That is maps based. And now,

[28:39] over the years, I've pivoted to become an asset management

[28:43] system coordinator. And for an organization like Boulder county parks

[28:46] and open space, of course, it's necessary to show where.

[28:52] The stuff is that we manage. So it is a

[28:55] map based. So this journey began well before I was

[29:01] hired. In fact, I was hired. When it was realized

[29:05] that we needed an asset management system. There were many

[29:09] strategic planning efforts that happened starting around 2019. And then

[29:15] a needs assessment, and then in 2023, Was realized or

[29:21] end of 2022, that Public Works was also looking to

[29:25] acquire an asset management system. And so we joined efforts.

[29:30] And so the system that we are implementing now, we're

[29:33] doing it alongside our public works. Counterparts and with some

[29:37] help from it. But I am housed in parks and

[29:40] open space, and then I was hired at the end

[29:43] of 2023. To start the implementation process, identifying what assets

[29:48] we have. Starting to talk about asset management system kind

[29:54] of asset management principles. And starting the change management. And

[29:59] now we're in 2020. And so we spent all of

[30:02] last year unsiloing data, our geographic information system data classifying

[30:08] and configuring and starting the training, and then really 2025,

[30:12] we started training and using and tweaking and so this

[30:15] is going to be. A long journey, and we're going

[30:18] to grow with this system. So you'll see this. Bear

[30:25] section of the slide. You've probably seen it before of

[30:28] the strategic lenses that the department developed in 2021 as

[30:33] part of. Some strategic planning. And one of those. There's

[30:39] four. And you'll hear more about them from Tina in

[30:42] the next presentation. But one of the key ones was

[30:46] the maintenance backlog. And trying to focus on taking care

[30:49] of what we have. And part of that you'll see

[30:52] in the strategies here. Identify or inventorying what our assets

[30:58] are again, out there on the landscape, our fences, our

[31:02] gates. Our drive, our access roads and vegetation management areas.

[31:06] So an asset management system is very useful for that

[31:10] and then identifying standards and level of service, which is

[31:15] part of the outcomes, addressing gaps between existing and desired

[31:19] conditions. So having conversations about what our desired cond? Conditions

[31:24] are. How do we assess conditions and things like that?

[31:28] Are all supported by implementing this asset management system. So

[31:34] just to go back a step. And give the sort

[31:39] of global standard definitions of an asset is a thing

[31:43] or entity that has potential or actual value to an

[31:47] organization. And asset management. I love this definition, but it's

[31:51] the coordinated activity of an organization to realize value from

[31:55] assets. So it's everything that we do, really. Is a

[32:00] form of asset management. And, of course, the department has

[32:04] been coordinating our activities to realize value from assets since

[32:08] we began, but it's much harder to coordinate a department

[32:12] of 200. People than it is one of ten people.

[32:15] So we have reached a maturity level in a size

[32:19] where this. System of record. Is helpful. And so the

[32:24] goal is that this will help us achieve. Our departmental

[32:29] mission and goals by strategically and proactively prioritizing and coordinating

[32:34] the work we do to assets that are efficient in

[32:36] ways that are efficient, cost effective, and minimally disruptive. To

[32:41] both the environment and the community. So that's just kind

[32:45] of the foundation of what we're trying to do with

[32:48] this asset management system. And. We're also building it to

[32:54] be a system of record for the long term. So

[32:59] that means we're setting up, we hope, future employees of

[33:02] Boulder county parks and open space with information that will

[33:06] help them understand when roofs of our barns were last

[33:10] replaced and when garage doors may be in extra need.

[33:16] Of being replaced so that we can try to move

[33:19] to a more proactive approach to managing these things as

[33:24] opposed to reactive. As you know, reactive work can be

[33:28] extremely disruptive to everybody. Staff you. And so that's the

[33:34] goal too, is to try. To build a system that

[33:37] is transparent across the organization. So that everybody has more

[33:43] information and can start planning. And then this is just

[33:48] a quick slide showing the key components of every asset

[33:53] management system that I've ever worked with. I've now implemented

[33:56] four different ones. I've never gotten to choose the actual

[34:00] system. I've always been hired after it was chosen, but

[34:03] that's okay. It's all kind of the same. So one

[34:09] is identifying the assets, such as the Delonde barn, one

[34:13] of our favorite assets. Out there and then also identifying

[34:16] what are the activities that we do. Our tasks, our

[34:20] work, our activities. And then the other work orders. Everybody

[34:25] talks in terms of work orders, really, what work orders

[34:29] are? Collection of activities, right? Like, I'm going to this

[34:32] barn and I'm going to. Replace the roof and fix

[34:36] some boards here or whatever. It's a list of activities,

[34:39] and then requests are things that can be either internal

[34:44] or. External requests, and I'll talk about that a little

[34:47] bit in a second. And where we can gather input

[34:52] from others on work. That maybe we should try to

[34:57] work into our work plan. So Boulder county selected. A

[35:03] company when they were going through the selection process, they

[35:06] were looking at cartograph. You'll see the name there. Cardigraph

[35:10] has been around. Was established in 1994. It's. Been an

[35:14] industry standard leader. In geographically based asset management systems for

[35:19] local governments for 30 years. Over 30 years, they were

[35:23] purchased by Opengov, which provides. Whose mission is to provide.

[35:29] Software systems for local governments that are directly tailored for

[35:33] our unique challenges. So it's kind of confusing. And here.

[35:40] Is. A little sneak peek of some of the things

[35:44] that we have in our asset management system today. So

[35:47] this was just taken today. So kind of cool to

[35:51] see it all on a map there and then. The

[35:56] next few slides sort of give an overview of some

[35:59] of the assets that we have started. To identify and

[36:03] implement into the system. And. There's kind of, in geographic

[36:08] sense, we think of points, lines and polygons. So points.

[36:12] Are anything. Like our water structures or signs or an

[36:16] obvious or tree sites, culverts. Things that are mapped using

[36:20] a point, lines, fences, access roads, dams and spillways. Actually,

[36:26] technically, culverts are lined. And then polygons or our container

[36:33] assets. And one of the beautiful things about this particular

[36:36] asset management system is as we mature, we will be

[36:40] able to. Give great reports on what are all of

[36:44] the assets at a farm lease and what eventually will

[36:47] have costs and condition. And really start to dig in

[36:52] and plan the work that we need to do to

[36:55] take care. Of what we have. Layer. On top of

[36:58] that are requests and work tasks that are also geographic

[37:03] in nature. So we can start to tell stories about

[37:06] where are we having to respond to graffiti more frequently?

[37:10] Are there. Anything that we can do to help mitigate

[37:15] that concern. And it's also geographic in nature and tied

[37:20] to the asset. And then finally, underneath all of that

[37:25] because. This is associated with our GIS data. We can

[37:30] see all of these things in relation to other geographic

[37:34] information. So, for example. Here's another map that is showing

[37:40] our cast projects. You'll see and hear more. About. This

[37:45] in Tina's presentation. And the red circles behind those are

[37:51] raptor nesting areas and. So now staff who are doing

[37:54] these projects can see them and plan accordingly to when.

[38:00] Their least. Disruptive to the natural environment as well. So

[38:07] very exciting to have this business intelligence in a tool

[38:11] that's used every day. The other really cool thing. For

[38:16] this system in particular. Especially compared to those I've implemented

[38:20] in the past, is that it is now being designed

[38:23] to be mobile first. So all of this information is

[38:27] available to field staff wherever they are, even. If they

[38:31] don't have cell service. They can take information offline. They

[38:35] can complete tasks and add photos and. I'm really. Actually.

[38:43] The first one is the raptor nest, the middle one.

[38:48] Is kind of hard to read it, but it was

[38:50] very useful to our ag team because it's showing oil

[38:54] and gas. Structures that are often in the middle of

[38:59] some of our properties. And so it's very helpful. We

[39:02] don't manage that data, but it's helpful to see where

[39:06] they are. And then the third one is showing the

[39:09] burn fire perimeter. The final fire perimeter for the stone.

[39:12] Mountain fire, so you can imagine. If we have a

[39:17] fire and there's an active fire and we start to

[39:19] get the information about the fire perimeters. We can display

[39:24] that in the map that's available to staff immediately and

[39:27] start to see right away what assets. Are in the

[39:33] path of that or that we need to start preparing

[39:36] for. So very important. For safety. Potentially too. Here's just

[39:43] to dig in a little bit deeper. So this is

[39:48] on our Barrett farm lease, one of the barns there.

[39:51] And so I just show this slide to show. How

[39:56] this team in particular had many spreadsheets. They knew their

[40:01] assets. It was all in their heads. They knew where

[40:03] they were. But we're trying to download all that information

[40:07] and. Again set up the future uses for success. And

[40:13] they really liked that they could start to put everything

[40:16] in one place. So again, this is a system of

[40:19] record. We're keeping track of building structure information and the

[40:24] details about it. Who maintains. It and construction information. Access.

[40:30] And occupant information helpful to know where there are animal

[40:34] or pieces of equipment. Again, in times of emergency. And

[40:38] also helpful, we have some structures that aren't safe for

[40:41] staff. To enter for asbestos reasons. Or whatever it may

[40:46] be. And so we can put that here, too. Another

[40:50] example is here. You can see in the notes they

[40:54] posted a couple of links. This team uses drones to

[40:59] take kind of really detailed aerial imagery. And here is

[41:04] an example, one of those links takes you to this

[41:07] detailed aerial imag. Imagery, and this actually is very interactive.

[41:11] It's three d, and you can zoom in and. Fly

[41:14] around and see. So they use this to help figure

[41:18] out what kind of work needs to be done. And

[41:23] then this is an example. Where the team assessed this

[41:28] entire property, identified tasks or activities that needed to happen

[41:33] on several of these structures, bundled them together in a

[41:36] work order. Efficiently. They're taking care of all of the

[41:40] problems all at once, and we're keeping track of. When.

[41:45] One of the example was damaged roofing, and so we're

[41:48] keeping track of. Those things. So again. Just in

[41:57] 2025, we're in this training using, we're in the middle

[42:01] of the heavy youth season right now, the field season,

[42:05] and in particular our signs and our weeds team. Are

[42:09] using this almost every day. We're going to learn a

[42:12] lot over the next several months. And our buildings and

[42:16] historic preservation are using it. Our trailhead operations team and

[42:21] agricultural infrastructure teams are harder because. They take care of

[42:26] many different types of assets, but they're starting to figure

[42:30] out how. To work this into theirs, and then. We're

[42:34] welcoming other work groups also, and eventually. We'll also have

[42:39] lots more reports and information coming out. So in the

[42:44] next twelve months. We hope. We expect to implement our

[42:50] trails and trail features. We have very good data about

[42:54] that in our GIS system, and we just need to

[42:57] implement this carefully into the asset management and do it

[43:00] right. We're hoping to inventory the fairgrounds assets. In coordination

[43:08] with Boulder county building Services, who are also implementing this.

[43:11] So it's great that we're building this knowledge base across

[43:15] the county of how to use this. And then we're

[43:19] exploring material management for our very innovative native seed collection

[43:25] and usage. I hope you get to hear about that

[43:28] someday. And then we will continue the journey. In identifying

[43:35] and building much more robust condition assessments and more monitoring.

[43:40] Activities. Adding replacement costs. So we've started to do that

[43:46] with our fencing. One key step is inventorying all your

[43:51] assets and knowing where they are. And so we're working

[43:53] through our fencing data. And then the work request workflows.

[43:59] So for those of you who. Management plan. Part of

[44:03] that was a request workflow. Even for external, that team

[44:08] already takes many requests, and so we're building that into

[44:12] our asset management system as well. And internal requests, too.

[44:19] Where one team asks for work from another team again,

[44:22] often happens with the weeds team. So we're learning about

[44:27] that and then trying to build out more dashboards and

[44:30] reports. This slide right before I close for questions. Is.

[44:38] It's actually a slide that comes from cardigraph to just

[44:42] kind of illustrate. The stages. Of asset management system maturity.

[44:49] You see the initial stage? Is the scenario where work

[44:53] orders are paper based and handled manually. There's no central

[44:57] repository. Of assets. Maintenance is reactive and decisions rely on

[45:02] the experience of the staff. We certainly were in that

[45:06] kind of environment, and. We are now working through most

[45:11] of the things. In stage two. I would like to

[45:15] highlight. That star in stage three, where we are aligned

[45:19] with the organization's strategic initiatives and goals. Thank goodness. I've

[45:25] done this in the past where those didn't exist, and

[45:28] it's. Very hard to implement an asset management system. But

[45:31] here we have clear goals. We have a clear mission.

[45:35] And. We are keeping us grounded as we go down

[45:38] this journey to ensure that we are doing what is

[45:42] outlined in that. So here's another example of a GIS

[45:49] dashboard of our 2026 cast projects. Just to get ready.

[45:56] And I have any question. All right. Thanks, Christy. That

[46:00] was really informative. It looks like a pretty cool program.

[46:07] To work on. So with that postac, we got any

[46:12] questions? It looks like Vicky's got one, right? Away. Vic

[46:16] Lord's posac. Christy, thank you so much. And I especially

[46:19] appreciated being a raptor nest monitor for many years. That

[46:23] you're marking raptor nest sites. And will you continue with

[46:28] maybe other wildlife like. I can think of where the

[46:32] elk migrate to and wander around. Maybe burrowing owls, which

[46:36] maybe you consider those in the raptor sites? And the

[46:40] other thing would be. I guess you talked about weeds.

[46:44] Anyway, I just appreciate that you're doing that, I think,

[46:47] because I know we've had problems in the past with

[46:49] people go in to work on an irrigation ditch or

[46:51] something, not realizing that they're within a boundary of a

[46:54] raptor nest, things like that. Yeah, to respond to that.

[47:02] As I stated at the beginning, asset management is really

[47:05] everything. And can be anything. And so the answer. Is

[47:10] absolutely. We can consider showing where our assets are in

[47:14] relation to. These other natural systems or animals. Movement corridors.

[47:22] We haven't done that yet, but we're going to be.

[47:25] Maturing every year on this. And especially as we make

[47:30] more teams across the department aware of how this can

[47:33] be helpful and create that transparency. We have data on

[47:37] that for sure. It's just built into this yet. Thank

[47:43] you. More questions. Tony Christy. Thank you. What a great

[47:47] presentation. It's really exciting for those of us who like

[47:51] to manage assets. I'm curious, and you may not know

[47:56] the answer to this, but it feels like you've. Latched

[47:59] onto this Opengov system or. I'm sorry, the name cardigraph.

[48:04] Cardigraph. It feels like there should be some synergy or

[48:09] efficiencies. Of the county doing this. Am I wrong in

[48:14] thinking like you all are moving forward, but. Like our

[48:18] other entities within the county. Totally. So public works and

[48:21] parks and open space. When I started here at Boulder

[48:26] County. It was a siloed organization. And this is the

[48:34] first time I've worked for a county, and so maybe

[48:36] it's. The nature of counties? I don't know. And Covid

[48:41] didn't help that, right? Collaboration has been challenging for the

[48:45] last several years. So I think that all points to

[48:49] there was a desire to implement the system to help

[48:52] solve some of those problems. So I came in and

[48:56] did a lot of listening. And for example, I forgot

[49:00] to mention, but we have unsiloed a couple of data

[49:03] sets. They're simple little data sets. But the impact of

[49:07] doing this. Is going to be kind of a big,

[49:10] it's kind of a big deal. One of them is

[49:13] gates and passages. Seems. Oh, that's so simple. Why do

[49:17] you even. Map gates and passages. Well, in times of

[49:20] emergency. Actually, everybody cares about gates and passages. And when

[49:26] I started to explore, well, should we put public works.

[49:30] Gates and passages with parks and open space. Gates and

[49:34] passages. I mean, that's a gate. Like, how hard can

[49:36] it be to define what it is? When I talk

[49:40] to the Rangers about this, they were thrilled because having

[49:44] one authoritative data set countywide for the gates and passages

[49:48] is a really big deal for emergency response. And so

[49:53] we're doing that countywide. I have a counterpart in public

[49:57] works who also was hired, just like I was, so.

[50:03] We're coming at this with. A very collaborative spirit. We

[50:06] don't know any better. And then another example that I

[50:10] heard from trailhead maintenance staff in particular is culverts. We

[50:16] don't know who maintains these coverts that are right in

[50:19] the road. But then they wash out. We're the ones

[50:21] who see the problems all the time, and we don't.

[50:23] Know if we're supposed to fix them. Who's supposed to

[50:26] fix them? We don't know who maintains culverts. So we've

[50:30] unsiloed coverts with transportation. And the goal is that we

[50:35] can clearly identify who's responsible for which assets. Not a

[50:41] big deal until it is a big deal. Thanks. That's

[50:45] super helpful. Second question, and then I have one more.

[50:52] Can you pull up a piece of. Can you pull

[50:56] up. A specific property. Let's say it's an ag property,

[51:02] and look at the ag infrastructure on that. Property and

[51:05] the condition. Maybe in the future. The condition of the

[51:09] fields or of the crops. Yes. So this is going.

[51:13] To be a journey. And this system. I don't have

[51:18] a slide showing that yet. Maybe if I come back

[51:21] regularly. I'll make that a goal. But cardigraph. Is designed

[51:27] to do exactly that. The value of all those assets.

[51:31] And we're starting to explore integrating this. Through our lease

[51:37] auditing process. And kind of developing a process where before

[51:42] a leaseholder signs a new lease, we assess the condition

[51:45] of the assets. We clarify maintenance responsibilities because it gets

[51:49] complicated for agricultural properties in particular. And have that transparent

[51:55] and documented here so that we're all in agreement about

[51:59] that. And then do a post lease assessment. That's awesome.

[52:05] That's really great. Last question. Is this data and are

[52:12] these GIS layers available to the public? So the system

[52:17] itself, the asset management system, No. That's kind of by

[52:23] design because there are some sensitive things in here. Our

[52:27] cultural resource. Things. It's good that. There's certain sensitive information.

[52:37] Yes, absolutely. But we can take pieces of that and.

[52:43] Some of our GS data can be shared publicly, and

[52:46] so we're starting to do that. Amenities are. A bench.

[52:53] We can. Trails. And I think as we get the

[52:56] trail infrastructure migrated, Into here, then we'll see more and

[53:03] more of that. And more maps. That's great. I guess

[53:06] I'd put a plug in for trying. To put as

[53:09] much of this into the public realm as possible, understanding

[53:13] there's some sensitive data that you don't want to do

[53:15] that way for sure. But some of it would be

[53:17] really helpful. Yeah. Part of this is a modernization of

[53:21] some of these information systems, including our GIS system. We're

[53:27] just going through a modernization period and then the goal

[53:30] is definitely to provide more resources to everybody. This one's

[53:35] for staff. But a light version of something like this

[53:39] for the public, too. Thank you very much. Any other

[53:42] questions? Pose act members. See none. I have a question.

[53:49] So going back to the raptor nest, and this might

[53:51] be an example of some other things. Too. But what

[53:54] I'd like to know is look and just glancing at

[53:57] it there's. The raptor nest, and they're buffered. And not

[54:00] all buffers are equal. Right. So there's a bit of

[54:03] technical knowledge in there. And so how does that get

[54:07] in. Is there a layer, a Gis layer somewhere that

[54:11] gets pulled in and then the other. Part of that

[54:13] question. Is. Is there frequent review from the wildlife staff

[54:19] to make sure that it's current and kept up to

[54:22] date. So none of this data that I've shown you

[54:26] today is mine. Right. It all comes from the wildlife

[54:30] staff. This is their data that they have requested creating.

[54:36] They wanted to create this base map so that staff

[54:39] who were doing work could see if. That they were

[54:44] close to or potentially planning to do this work during.

[54:48] And, of course, these raptor nesting areas. They have windows

[54:52] of time to stay away, and then. They open up

[54:56] again. Right? Like it's not all year. And so part

[54:59] of it is. Just to help in scheduling the work.

[55:02] And if I had zoomed in there, you would have.

[55:04] Seen labels that would have said. They're not all created

[55:09] equal, for sure. And some of them have different windows

[55:12] of time. When they're kind of off limits for different

[55:16] types of uses, and that is all identified. In the

[55:19] data and. That is all designed by the wildlife team.

[55:25] We are just messengers of their information. That's really cool.

[55:29] That somebody that wants to plan a project can look

[55:31] in there and zoom in and see the dates and

[55:33] everything. Yeah. Thank you. Good deal. John's got a question.

[55:39] Vicky and I both work with City of Lewisville for

[55:43] raptor monitoring. Is this something? That you're exchanging data with

[55:49] them, or is it just county? Sorry about rolling the

[55:53] eyes. I would presume so, but now. I'm not on

[55:58] the wildlife team. Okay, but I would presume so, yes.

[56:02] I mean. We work hard across all of Boulder county

[56:05] parks and open space to work with our partners. Thank

[56:09] you. Any more questions? No more questions. All right. Do

[56:16] we have any public comment? Anyone in the room? I

[56:19] don't see anyone. Do we have anybody online? Nick? I

[56:24] don't see any hands raised. All right, last chance for

[56:28] discussion or questions. Posak no. All right. Thank you. Christy.

[56:32] Great presentation. Great program. All right, next Agenda item 4.3

[56:39] is the 2026 capital and stewardship project. And we're going

[56:45] to see Tina Nielsen. Tina's back to give us the

[56:49] lowdown. On this one. And this is one where we

[56:52] need to make a recommendation to the Boulder county commissioners.

[56:57] I have no idea what that.

[57:08] Exactly. They come, they go. I might need a nick

[57:13] assist. Unplug that HDMI and plug it in again. Let's

[57:18] see what happens. A voice behind the curtain. That's right.

[57:25] Looks like maybe. I saw something different.

[57:35] Any other tricks, Nick? Yeah. I think you just got

[57:41] your displays set. To extend rather than mirror. Display settings.

[57:50] Okay? Very cool creator, though. Okay. How many of the

[58:00] space staff does it take to make it? Like the

[58:05] creator. I'll be fine. If I wanted to look at

[58:08] them. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. Good evening, Tina

[58:14] Nielsen. And. I am special projects coordinator. I work in

[58:20] the strategic foundations group. And I'm here tonight to talk

[58:25] to you about our 2026 capital and stewardship. Projects as

[58:29] I have been doing for very many years, annually. And

[58:33] as I always say, this is one of the favorite

[58:36] things I get to do when I come in front

[58:38] of you. Because. I get to show you all the

[58:41] cool things that are happening, many of them behind the

[58:44] scenes. That aren't necessarily visible. To. Our standard visitor. And

[58:51] it just makes me feel so proud and happy. That.

[58:55] I get to help show off what we do. And

[58:58] I will also add to that a small caveat, and

[59:01] that is that. I'm like a big picture person. I

[59:03] know a lot, a little bit about a lot. Of

[59:05] things, but some of the projects I may not be

[59:08] able to answer deeper questions about and we do have

[59:11] other staff in the room. If you have questions I

[59:14] can't answer, I'll. Lean on those folks. And if there's

[59:17] a question that none of us can answer, we'll get

[59:19] back. To you, so just make sure. You don't feel

[59:22] like you can't ask questions. And this is very informal

[59:25] even. Though. We're looking for a recommendation tonight, but if

[59:28] you have questions as I go through, don't. Hesitate to

[59:31] just pipe up. So I want to start off with

[59:35] definitions. Just some of you are newer to this, and.

[59:40] Our processes have evolved quite a bit over the years.

[59:43] So, Catherine Stewardship. Or we call it cast. We're the

[59:47] land of acronyms. So what are they? Capital projects are

[59:52] large, discrete projects. Some examples from what we're looking at

[59:56] next year are. Accessibility improvements under. The Ada laws. Dam

[1:00:03] rehabilitation. New center pivots. They're large, they have discrete. They.

[1:00:07] Have a beginning. And stewardship, on the other hand. Are

[1:00:13] often maintenance and. Their maintenance that are projects that. They're

[1:00:20] big enough that they don't get covered by operational budgets.

[1:00:25] So working with the asset management program. We are over

[1:00:29] time working to right size. Our operational budget so that.

[1:00:35] The regular programmatic kind of maintenance can be covered on

[1:00:38] an annual operating budget, but I think there will always

[1:00:41] be some things that pop up that are just outside

[1:00:43] of those budgets, so. There'll probably always be a need

[1:00:47] for something like that in the cast budget. So, examples

[1:00:50] that I'll be showing you tonight are trail resurfacing, fence

[1:00:55] repair. And then sometimes we have some equipment, like new

[1:00:59] trail counters. And then another example of a maintenance project

[1:01:03] is a barn reboot, but that's. A big cost item.

[1:01:09] Those are the kinds of things that you'll see tonight.

[1:01:14] And then just a summary of the projects or the

[1:01:18] budget that we are proposing for next year. The county's

[1:01:22] share is a little over $9.8 million. We're able to

[1:01:28] leverage that with some grants and partnerships to a little

[1:01:31] over a million. Dollars, for a total of $11 million

[1:01:34] invested in these projects. And you can see. How these

[1:01:38] breakdown between the different work groups who are out in

[1:01:41] the field doing that work. Another way to look at

[1:01:46] them. Is the number of projects in each work group.

[1:01:51] So this is shown on this graph, and you can

[1:01:54] see that resource management and resource planning each have ten

[1:01:56] projects. Eight for recreation of facilities and five in the

[1:02:00] agricultural division, and I've also included those. Dollar amounts there

[1:02:04] again. So, again, you just heard from Christie about asset

[1:02:09] management. I'm so excited. To have. This new tool to

[1:02:14] help. Integrate us better. And you were asking questions about

[1:02:19] Silos and so on. And I'm so excited because one

[1:02:22] of the requirements we have. When we get to approving

[1:02:26] these projects is that the staff who are proposing them

[1:02:29] are required. To consult other disciplines. So, for example, if

[1:02:34] you're planning a trail maintenance project, you have to check

[1:02:37] in with wildlife and various others to see if there

[1:02:39] are any impacts that you need. To know about and

[1:02:42] having this visual in a much more of a powerful

[1:02:45] real. Time way. Is really going to just make that

[1:02:47] so much more impactful. And those consultations will be much

[1:02:52] easier. To have happen. So again, this just shows, kind

[1:02:59] of gives you, I don't expect you to read the

[1:03:00] labels on the right side of the screen, but I

[1:03:03] just wanted to give you that feel for. How these

[1:03:06] projects are distributed all over the county in our landscape.

[1:03:12] So how do we decide what projects are going to

[1:03:15] be on the next year? So we go through a

[1:03:18] process. And a lot of factors are considered, including readiness

[1:03:23] and funding. And management plan commitments and things like that,

[1:03:29] but we also filter them through our strategic lenses. You

[1:03:33] saw a little bit from Christy about our maintenance backlog.

[1:03:36] Strategic lenses. But we've got these four lenses, which are

[1:03:39] cultural responsiveness and inclusion. Which. Are very intentional attempt to

[1:03:47] make sure that all of our visitors feel welcome and

[1:03:49] included. The resilience lens is really about sustainability. A lot

[1:03:54] of it has having to do with preparing for climate

[1:03:57] change and things related to that maintenance backlog is a

[1:04:01] big one because just. In the organizational evolution of our

[1:04:07] program. Early years, we bought bot bot, and then we

[1:04:10] built, built, built, and now we have a lot. Of

[1:04:12] stuff to take care of and. We're an asset management

[1:04:15] is helping us kind of figure out how to do

[1:04:17] that in a very cost effective way. And then last

[1:04:20] but not least at all, is safety. We want to

[1:04:23] make sure that our staff our visitors, our volunteers, and

[1:04:25] everyone is safe. And again, as we've evolved, we realize

[1:04:30] we have to be very intentional about that, so. That's

[1:04:35] always a filter. And you may notice that these are

[1:04:37] called 2025 strategic focus. Areas. This graphic was developed at

[1:04:44] an all staff meeting we had back in April of

[1:04:46] 2021. The next five year period will be 2026, starting

[1:04:53] in 2026. So we will be updating this next year.

[1:04:57] These are very solid, but things may get tweaked a

[1:04:59] little bit. But because this is what we have now,

[1:05:02] this is what we use to plan our next year's.

[1:05:05] Projects. And here again, I just wanted to show you.

[1:05:11] Obviously, these numbers add up to more than the 33

[1:05:13] projects that are on the list because there's a lot

[1:05:15] of overlap. One project may tick more than one box,

[1:05:18] and as you can see, there's a huge overlap between

[1:05:20] maintenance backlog and safety, I think. That's pretty intuitive. Why?

[1:05:24] That might be. Resilience also has a pretty big overlap.

[1:05:29] With maintenance, backlog and safety. This year, we have eight

[1:05:32] projects that tick the inclusion box, which is a big

[1:05:36] jump over last year. There were two. A lot of

[1:05:38] our. Cultural relevance and inclusion projects show up on the

[1:05:42] programmatic side of the things that we do. Like the

[1:05:45] hikes that we lead, the events that we host and

[1:05:48] things like that, they're. Now starting to show up. More

[1:05:52] in our capital project, so I'm going to talk a

[1:05:54] little bit about that more. As we get into it.

[1:05:58] So. I'm not going to talk about every single project.

[1:06:03] You've got the details in your packet. I'm just going

[1:06:06] to kind of do some high level overview and highlights,

[1:06:09] and then I'm going to talk a little bit more

[1:06:10] about those. Cultural relevance and inclusive projects, so. In agriculture

[1:06:16] and water division. Most of those projects address maintenance, backlog

[1:06:21] and resilience. So a lot of water projects. We're always

[1:06:25] trying to manage our water in a more sustainable way,

[1:06:28] a more efficient way. And so the new center pivots

[1:06:32] the dam rehabilitation. And the well development, which is also

[1:06:38] crossing over into wildlife management. But really, do. That continuing

[1:06:43] on fence repairs. We started doing a multimillion dollar fence

[1:06:47] repair project last year. And that's continuing this year, and

[1:06:52] that's really. About. Management of cattle and grazing and so

[1:06:57] on to make sure that the animals are where they're

[1:07:01] supposed to be and not where they're not supposed to

[1:07:02] be. And then you can see in that upper right

[1:07:06] hand photo, the Cushman property. And also the one below

[1:07:09] it. We have challenges on some properties with things like

[1:07:15] prairie dogs. Or properties that haven't been well maintained over

[1:07:19] time. So the Cushman is one. That is taking a

[1:07:22] rest this year and we're doing the work so that

[1:07:24] when we lease it out again, it'll be fully productive.

[1:07:29] 737. Then resource management division. Again, very heavily focused on

[1:07:35] resilience and maintenance backlog. So we have a couple of

[1:07:40] different wildlife fencing projects. One on the Mayhoffer property out

[1:07:45] East Lufthal Lafayette area. And that is to fence animals

[1:07:49] out of the riparian corridors. You can see in that

[1:07:51] upper right. Photo there and then one up at. Caribou

[1:07:54] ranch, which is to protect. Riparian area and what area

[1:07:58] from the moose, which population is really expanding up there

[1:08:03] and. They're big animals and they can really trample the

[1:08:07] area. We're continuing to do russian olive removal along Boulder

[1:08:11] Creek, and that's on the wheeler property on the eastern

[1:08:13] end of the county. And then, as you can see

[1:08:17] in the lower photo there of elk crossing us 36

[1:08:21] between bowler and lions. I think you've heard about this,

[1:08:25] but. We are continuing to plan for and hopefully implement

[1:08:29] a wildlife crossing on us. 36 at some point doing

[1:08:32] that closely in conjunction with CPW CDOT and the bikeway

[1:08:36] planning process. That's going on there. And then we have

[1:08:39] a couple of forestry projects for fuel reduction. And this

[1:08:45] is every year the forestry folks. Are out there planning

[1:08:49] and getting grant money. And the forest projects are almost

[1:08:53] always supported by grant money. They're almost always. Regional collaborations,

[1:08:59] and the idea is that with all the fire suppression

[1:09:02] that's happened since white settlement. We have. Very fire prone

[1:09:07] areas, and we're trying to get a handle on that.

[1:09:11] Recreation of facilities. Very intuitive here. They're focused a lot

[1:09:18] on maintenance, backlog and safety. And so there are trailhead

[1:09:24] upgrades this year happening at Rabbit Mountain runs through a

[1:09:27] preserve of rabbit mountain. We have some accessibility improvements also

[1:09:32] happening at the Rabbit Mountain trailhead, as well as at

[1:09:35] the good hue house which is at the Carolyn Homeburg

[1:09:37] preserve near Broomfield in the southeast corner. Of the county.

[1:09:43] The Macintosh barn, which is at the Agricultural Heritage center,

[1:09:46] will be rerouted this year. We've got some smaller projects,

[1:09:51] including. Upgrading the fencing at the Kerr Community garden. That's

[1:09:55] at the Harney Listoka property. Which is jointly owned with

[1:09:58] Louisville and Lafayette right at that area. Where South Boulder

[1:10:04] Road intersects with 95th street, and there's the community ballpark

[1:10:09] there. And there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.

[1:10:10] One of the things that's cool is there's community garden

[1:10:14] right there. We're doing a whole series of restroom updates,

[1:10:19] and I know that Emily was here, not. Long ago.

[1:10:22] Giving you a big update on that. Servicing the flooring

[1:10:27] and the insides. And all this toward the goal of

[1:10:31] making the maintenance more sustainable. And long lasting. There's some

[1:10:37] bridge rejecting on the Nywat trails and then we do

[1:10:41] have one playground, in case you didn't know, in Nywat

[1:10:45] at the left hand valley. Grange. And this year they're

[1:10:49] doing a resurfacing project out there, and next year, they're

[1:10:52] going to put a new playground equipment. And then the

[1:10:56] last thing is handheld lidar, which is a piece of

[1:10:59] equipment used to take some of those pictures, like what

[1:11:03] Christie showed you. Then. The fourth and last division that

[1:11:09] does field work is resource planning. And many of those

[1:11:14] projects are really focused on resilience. So planning. For disasters,

[1:11:20] or recovering from disasters, or thinking about how do we

[1:11:23] become more resilient to climate change and those kinds of

[1:11:26] things. So I know you've had a field trip to

[1:11:32] the hall to property to see the south St. Brien

[1:11:34] Creek restoration project. That's the photo that you see there

[1:11:37] and that's. An ongoing project, so there's more happening this

[1:11:40] year. Another ongoing project. Is adaptive management. For St. Brain

[1:11:48] stream restoration and fish Passage project. So there were two

[1:11:52] projects that were done, several years ago, but there's a

[1:11:54] lot of ongoing monitoring. And responding to any water events

[1:12:00] that may happen so that we don't let things get

[1:12:02] out of hand again. So we have a budget set

[1:12:05] aside for that. Then the Howl Ditch diversion, which is

[1:12:10] along Boulder Creek, and we're doing that in partnership. With

[1:12:13] the city of Boulder utilities division. Is also. For Creek

[1:12:20] health. There's also a fish passage element to that project.

[1:12:26] And the city. Boulder is a funding partner as well,

[1:12:28] in that the Prince Lake number one, Dan rehabilitation is.

[1:12:36] A dam that is on a lake just upstream from

[1:12:38] Erie, and this is another ongoing project, so. You're hearing

[1:12:41] a familiar thing here. These are big, kind of multi

[1:12:44] agency, multi year, complicated. Projects that involve engineering, a lot

[1:12:48] of permitting, so they take time. The state engineer. Decided,

[1:12:56] well, the safety standards change. And as a result of

[1:12:59] that change, This dam is no longer. Meeting those requirements,

[1:13:04] and it's a safety thing in case there's a big

[1:13:07] water event, and the city of Erie is now downstream.

[1:13:10] We wouldn't want. Some flooding event to affect those homeowners.

[1:13:16] So that is in progress. And then, of course, Prairie

[1:13:19] run at East Boulder Creek. Is in year three next

[1:13:24] year with phase two design and permitting, and so that

[1:13:27] is just ongoing. And it takes a chunk of money.

[1:13:31] And it's again another big, complicated, multi year project. I

[1:13:35] wanted to highlight this one project because this is by

[1:13:40] far the most expensive project on the whole list and

[1:13:42] figured you might have questions about it. I'm guessing you've

[1:13:49] had the opportunity to have a field trip up there

[1:13:52] and. You've heard a lot about it, but for those

[1:13:54] of you who weren't around, for that. The cardinal mill

[1:13:58] is a property that. Well, it was a mill that

[1:14:01] was begun in the early 19 hundreds. Process mining from

[1:14:08] a nearby mine until the early 40s. And then it

[1:14:15] sat on vacant and unused, and has been unused since

[1:14:20] that time. A neighbor purchased it. I believe in the

[1:14:26] held it for a while. She did not have the

[1:14:29] resources to do any rehabilitation, and ultimately we bought it

[1:14:33] from her in 2003. We put over a million dollars

[1:14:37] into the rehabilitation of this, including. Those various retaining rules

[1:14:41] that you said everything was sliding down the hill. We've

[1:14:45] had a water discharge permit there over the years, but

[1:14:48] here again. The standards have changed. They've become stricter, and

[1:14:53] we're now out of compliance. With the discharge permit. So

[1:14:58] it's a quite complicated situation up there. I don't pretend

[1:15:02] to understand it. All. I'm not working on this project.

[1:15:05] But I do know that we are working with a

[1:15:08] consultant to figure out the solution, and so. That's the

[1:15:13] $4 million price tag for this year, and it will

[1:15:14] be ongoing. That is our biggest capital project so far.

[1:15:20] I do want to mention that when we did all

[1:15:23] the rehabilitation work that we spent over a million dollars

[1:15:25] on. More than half of that money came from the

[1:15:28] state Historic Preservation fund. So we worked really hard on

[1:15:33] that, and. It's on the. Mine tour. Haven't been up

[1:15:37] there. It's a really cool facility to see and. A

[1:15:41] great example. Of a kind of mine that used to

[1:15:43] be common. In the western part of the county that

[1:15:48] we still have. I want to step back and talk

[1:15:51] a little bit more about those cultural resource. Resources projects

[1:15:58] that we have eight of. In this upcoming. Budget. And

[1:16:04] just to remind everybody, What is this cultural responsiveness and

[1:16:08] inclusion lens? The goal being that we co create welcoming,

[1:16:13] inclusive and responsive opportunities for marginalized and undisturbed populations especially.

[1:16:18] But for everybody. Honestly, it's everybody. But the moment that

[1:16:23] we are in today, With opportunity to reflect back on

[1:16:27] the history. Of white settlement and of land being stolen

[1:16:34] and all those things, and addressing the fact that. Our

[1:16:38] visitors don't reflect the demographic. Of our population, especially the

[1:16:42] hispanic latino population, so. It's been a very intentional effort

[1:16:47] on our part to start to. Build those relationships. And

[1:16:51] now, as I said earlier, Show up in our capital

[1:16:54] budget. See some of the strategies have been called out

[1:16:59] there. And so I want to just highlight a few

[1:17:02] of those things before I do. I'll show you how,

[1:17:05] again, how these projects are distributed across the landscape. These

[1:17:10] are just those projects that tick that box of cultural

[1:17:14] responsiveness and inclusion. So one of them that is super

[1:17:19] exciting is the Resilient Roots project, and this is a

[1:17:23] project that our new cultural history specialist, Elisa Bethrios Brooks,

[1:17:28] is leading, and it's really started. Actually in a collaborative

[1:17:33] project with community planning and permitting department where they're. Doing?

[1:17:40] A survey. Of what is out there on the landscape

[1:17:43] that relates to latino populations and indigenous populations, and then

[1:17:47] she's going to take a next step next year. In

[1:17:53] a process that will facilitate a community led. Conversation and

[1:17:58] research develop. Histories and ultimately. Recommendations that will guide. Future

[1:18:06] acquisitions and stewardship and interpretation of these sites. So the

[1:18:09] photo that you see here on the bottom. Is barracks

[1:18:14] property. A little bit on the southeast lim. And the

[1:18:23] photo above that is a newspaper clipping from the 80s.

[1:18:28] When some work was done to document some of the

[1:18:31] migrant labors and some of the issues. And things that

[1:18:34] they were going through at the time. So Lisa Beth

[1:18:37] is really digging into this. And it's going to be

[1:18:40] fun to see where it goes. And then I did

[1:18:45] mention this already, but just highlight again. The EDA, the

[1:18:51] federal law for accessibility. We had an audit done. And

[1:18:59] so we're in year three of a four year process.

[1:19:02] To do updates every year to address all the various

[1:19:05] things from very minor to bigger things on our property.

[1:19:09] So at the good few house and at Rabbit Mountain,

[1:19:12] we're doing a better job of connecting our Ada parking

[1:19:17] spots to restrooms. There's no elevation changes, there's no sharp

[1:19:24] drop offs, so people can navigate more. Safely between. Our

[1:19:29] facilities. And then there will be some other minor updates

[1:19:33] to the restrooms and trailheads at the roadstroke consumer rabbit

[1:19:36] bone. This photo just is an example of some of

[1:19:41] the work that has been done in the first couple

[1:19:44] of years. And then another one that's ongoing is sign

[1:19:50] standards implementation. Those of you who have been around for

[1:19:55] a while, you may remember. We had. A consultant hired

[1:20:00] to help us rethink our whole sign plan. And they

[1:20:05] came up with a manual. We shared that manual freely

[1:20:08] with any other agency who. Wants to take advantage of

[1:20:12] it. And we are implementing. About 500 new signs a

[1:20:18] year. These are void finding regulatory warning and accolades. And

[1:20:24] most of them are bilingual. And they use universal. Technology

[1:20:28] so that it's very easy to understand. And you see

[1:20:32] that list of properties that are on the up for

[1:20:36] next year. Another really fun project. Is demonstration garden at

[1:20:43] Walden Ponds. And photo is actually one that was just

[1:20:49] installed last weekend. At the CSU extension office. They have

[1:20:54] a demonstration garden out there at the fairground, and. This

[1:20:58] is. An accessible raised bed so that somebody who's in

[1:21:00] a wheelchair can navigate and do some planting and weeding

[1:21:03] and maintenance and so on. So we're doing something similar

[1:21:06] at Walden. I'm not sure how many of these, or

[1:21:11] even if any of them will be accessible. They're still

[1:21:13] working on figuring that out, but they're hoping that they

[1:21:15] can find an Eagle scout will be willing to do

[1:21:18] that. And that's what happened at CSU extension. I got

[1:21:24] these photos just today from our dear friend Poria, who's

[1:21:27] in the audience. Tonight, and he wanted me to mention

[1:21:30] that he's developing. A video about this particular project, so

[1:21:35] keep your eyes open for that. It'll be a fun

[1:21:37] little story and. This will be right next to the

[1:21:42] volunteer Naturals building out of Walt Punk, and it will

[1:21:45] include a little trail that winds through it and some

[1:21:48] interpretive signing. Bilingual. So inclusive in that way, and maybe

[1:21:53] even inclusive on the accessibility metric as well. Okay, so

[1:21:59] the same brain greenway planning. This is a kickstart, a

[1:22:06] restart of a project. That was started many years ago

[1:22:10] and then went on the back burner because the properties

[1:22:13] weren't all acquired yet. It's St. Brand Greenway between. And

[1:22:20] the intention is to restart. This with a very. Intentional

[1:22:27] engagement effort. So we'll be bringing. In partners ideas and

[1:22:33] perspectives that are maybe outside of the box. That is

[1:22:37] a difficult planner's. Box. Which means going to communities. And

[1:22:43] starting to create a field of ownership. And then helping

[1:22:47] them feel like they really belong here and understanding what

[1:22:50] they're looking for. Out of trail experience that would be

[1:22:53] in that area. So this is just getting started next

[1:22:57] year. And the funding is set aside for help with

[1:23:00] facilitation. The care and link outlets. So Karen Lake

[1:23:09] is at Pella Crossing. I'm in the hygiene area. And

[1:23:14] there is an inclusive element to this project as well.

[1:23:17] There's a clog outlet. And so. It's really mainly a

[1:23:21] maintenance backlog issue. However, there are people who use what

[1:23:26] we call OPDMD, which is other power driven mobility devices.

[1:23:31] I learned that when I worked on the bike policy.

[1:23:33] I learned to say it really quick. With that kind

[1:23:37] of. Hack that our staff came up with. It's a

[1:23:45] bunch of stones crossing. It's not very friendly. For users

[1:23:50] of. Open. So the intention is to go in there

[1:23:54] and do a right fix. Fixed debris problem. Lots of

[1:24:00] fixed trail fluids, again accessible to all users. So that

[1:24:05] brings me to the end of my presentation. Again. This

[1:24:11] depiction of how these projects play on the landscape. As

[1:24:16] you know, we are looking for a recommendation to the

[1:24:19] county commissioners. Request later this year, I'd be happy to

[1:24:25] transfer questions. All right. Thanks, Tina. Great presentation. You covered

[1:24:30] a lot of ground. Very concisely, too. All right, Posac,

[1:24:37] we got some questions. Jones. Joan, let's pose. AK and

[1:24:42] I have a few questions. One was what your thoughts

[1:24:46] are about funding from the federal government and FEMA that

[1:24:50] may be contributing, given the uncertainty of some of that

[1:24:54] funding. Yeah, thank you for asking. That's a really great

[1:24:58] question. We do have some fema funding. Let me just

[1:25:05] step back for a minute. We have an application in

[1:25:09] for one of our projects. It hasn't been awarded yet.

[1:25:13] So. This is one of those things. I'm not directly

[1:25:16] involved in that project, so I'm not sure how well

[1:25:19] I can answer it, but I know we're all aware.

[1:25:22] Of. Yeah, please come up. We're all aware of. The

[1:25:26] situation at the federal government? Yes, thank you. Good question.

[1:25:29] Heidi Wagner, strategic foundation's deputy director. And yes, one of

[1:25:35] our projects, the Prince Lake Dam project, is FEMA funded.

[1:25:40] And. We were concerned about that funding being withdrawn, but

[1:25:46] after lots of emails and conversations with the state, We

[1:25:51] believe we will still be reimbursed as promised. We did

[1:25:56] have a very thoughtful conversation and decided to go ahead

[1:26:00] and proceed. That project. Has actually already been awarded and

[1:26:06] is going to kick off in August. So the funding

[1:26:09] that you're seeing for 26 is just to finish the

[1:26:13] project. So once. We're done with the project, we will

[1:26:17] file for that reimbursement. It actually. Comes from the state,

[1:26:21] who then gets it from FEMA. So the hope is

[1:26:25] that process will still continue, but if not, we understand

[1:26:29] that. We might be holding the bill. Does that help?

[1:26:36] Yes. It was Joan. Sorry, Joan. You'd ask the question?

[1:26:41] Yes, that's very helpful. And then I was also going

[1:26:46] to just have a comment on the Walden demonstration garden,

[1:26:49] which I've already passed on to Amanda Hanfield. In that.

[1:26:55] With native Zurich and firewise plants. I think they should

[1:26:59] all be native. I was a registered landscape architect, and

[1:27:03] I can tell you, just in my lifetime, plants from

[1:27:06] other countries or areas that we thought would be compatible.

[1:27:10] Nature finds a way to reproduce, and so I just

[1:27:14] think there's lots of native zoo. Plants. There's lots of

[1:27:18] native firewise plants too. And then the only other question

[1:27:26] was if you could explain more about. The amount required

[1:27:31] for the wildlife crossing planning, it seems like the 600,000.

[1:27:37] Is just for planning. It just seems like a large

[1:27:41] figure, and maybe you could explain that more. Yeah. Again,

[1:27:45] this is going to be one where I'm going to

[1:27:46] have to defer. Heidi Wagner. So it's large because. It's

[1:27:53] planning, but it's also conceptual design work. So right now

[1:27:57] there is a bikeway being planned along 36. In the

[1:28:01] same corridor that we're looking for the wildlife crossing to

[1:28:04] be placed so between boulder. And lions. And that effort

[1:28:10] is well underway. And so in order for us to

[1:28:14] integrate with that effort in a timely manner. We need

[1:28:17] to get on board. With a conceptual design for the

[1:28:20] wildlife crossing, and so that funding is not just to

[1:28:25] plan and talk about it, but it's also actually for

[1:28:28] the design consultant and all the associated work. And potentially

[1:28:32] start on, hopefully, on what we'll need for our permits.

[1:28:37] Thank you. Vicky. Vicky Lawrence Posek. First of all, I

[1:28:42] had two questions, but now I want to follow. Up

[1:28:44] on what you just were telling us, Heidi. So, just

[1:28:50] out of curiosity, this is an overpath for wildlife. That's

[1:28:55] correct. Okay. And would that be an overpass over the

[1:29:01] bike path as well? That's what we're trying to consider

[1:29:05] design. And I have to caveat my previous answer. Yes.

[1:29:08] We are hoping it will be an overpass. That is

[1:29:12] our preferred design, but we might need to go with

[1:29:14] an underpass, just depending on how all the design. Work

[1:29:19] shakes out. Thank you. So I have two other comments

[1:29:22] from earlier on. As far as the cardinal mill and

[1:29:26] the water discharge, that is not meeting standards there. I

[1:29:32] assume, but I'm just asking that the county has sought

[1:29:36] out other funds from. I don't know EPA or boulder

[1:29:40] water is impacted by that at Barca Reservoir. Are there

[1:29:46] other sources of funding that are looking, that you're looking

[1:29:49] at for helping with that payment? Yes. Thanks for that

[1:29:52] question. Funding is tight right now. The federal government is

[1:29:57] usually who we would go to for something of this

[1:29:59] magnitude. We are applying for a brown filled grant. That

[1:30:05] is really the only thing, as of now that we

[1:30:08] have identified. As potentially being a funding source for us

[1:30:13] as a support source. We are continuing our conversations with

[1:30:16] the state, and we're also hoping that they might give

[1:30:19] us additional guidance or heads up. On any funding they

[1:30:22] might be providing. But if you know the state picture

[1:30:24] as well, It is pretty dry there, but we're hopeful

[1:30:29] for brownfield. So are we under some kind of restriction

[1:30:34] or alert or red flagging or something from the EPA

[1:30:37] or something about this. Or are we just being sort

[1:30:39] of proactive in saying we know that this isn't. Great.

[1:30:41] So let's try and clean it up now. Or is

[1:30:43] it something that should be. Put off when perhaps. Federal

[1:30:47] funding might be available again. Yes. So it's not the

[1:30:49] EPA. It's actually the state of Colorado. Who updated their

[1:30:54] standards. And when they did the update, we were out

[1:30:59] of compliance, and so. They gave us a deadline to

[1:31:03] become compliant. Which, after some preliminary work and analysis on

[1:31:09] our part, we realized we were not going to make.

[1:31:12] That deadline due to the complexity of the site. And

[1:31:15] the conditions and all of the infrastructure work required to

[1:31:19] become compliant and ask them for an extension which they

[1:31:23] granted, which is right now, march of 27. Okay. Thank

[1:31:27] you. And I have one further sort of more of

[1:31:30] a comment. I'm out. Of Carolyn Holmberg all the time

[1:31:33] on a regular basis. And I bike out there and

[1:31:36] I had to laugh when you showed that picture of

[1:31:38] the infrastructure improvement there, which was really awesome for handicapped

[1:31:42] people. There's a lot great about it. And they put

[1:31:45] up one hoop. To lock bikes to. I bike out

[1:31:51] there now, I don't stop there. And admittedly, maybe their

[1:31:53] thinking is that nobody's going to stop and lock their

[1:31:55] bike there, which may be the case, but. I can

[1:31:58] envision that people would come there to meet other people

[1:32:01] and go walking or to come and stop and go

[1:32:03] birding and they might want to lock their bike up,

[1:32:06] and I brought. That attendant to the attention of Michelle

[1:32:10] Durant, who brought it when she was out there with

[1:32:12] me one time, and she brought it to the attention

[1:32:14] of somebody else, and so they've now put up two.

[1:32:17] But just in the future, I think we need to

[1:32:20] consider that biking as ebikes become more and more available

[1:32:24] and popular, that biking is going to really become a

[1:32:26] substitute for a lot of automobile travel. And that we

[1:32:29] really needed to provide infrastructure for that as we're doing

[1:32:32] new building. All right, John, do you have a question?

[1:32:35] When you had John White poseack. When you showed the

[1:32:44] map. Of. The casp map. Of inclusivity projects. It looked

[1:32:52] like almost nothing. In east longmont, east lafayette. Places. Where?

[1:33:00] I would imagine that's where most Latino. Residents are going

[1:33:05] to live, it looks like. There's nothing. So what this

[1:33:13] map is showing? Is where the Ada projects are, the

[1:33:19] signage that's being installed next year, so it doesn't show

[1:33:22] everything we're doing, okay, but it's showing those things that

[1:33:25] are happening that we're proposing to do next year, but

[1:33:29] there's going to be something with. Inclusivity in the east

[1:33:33] part of the county. Well, to the extent we have

[1:33:35] properties out there. Most of the properties that we own

[1:33:38] in the eastern part of the county are agricultural. They're

[1:33:42] not so much the recreational. I'm thinking. What would our

[1:33:46] most eastern park be? I think it's Carolyn Homeberg. Preserved.

[1:33:49] Well, maybe the Harnestoka property, which is right at the

[1:33:53] intersection of. Rabbit Mountain is fairly far east, but it's

[1:33:59] kind of getting into the foothills there's. Nothing right around

[1:34:03] long. Crossing is pretty close. East wise.

[1:34:13] Long one has a fair amount of infrastructure. In Lucille,

[1:34:18] Lafayette, obviously as well. And we do have some jointly

[1:34:21] owned properties. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, Tony?

[1:34:32] Tony. Louis. Thanks, tina. For the detailed presentation. I have

[1:34:38] a couple of questions. One is. When this is submitted.

[1:34:44] If post recommends to the board of commissioners that it

[1:34:49] be approved. Do the commissioners go line by line do

[1:34:52] they look at question? General buckets or do they go

[1:34:57] line by line? Okay, so here's how it's. Organized in

[1:35:00] the budget request. We have a $2 million line item.

[1:35:04] So the projects that are $250,000 or less are lumped

[1:35:09] together in that $2 million line item. Anything that's over

[1:35:13] $250,000 gets its own light item, so. They are looking

[1:35:18] more closely at the larger, more complicated projects, the multi

[1:35:22] year projects and that's. The way it's been designed. In

[1:35:27] the past, we've always brought a similar presentation to this,

[1:35:29] to them so they could see everything, but they have

[1:35:32] a lot on their plates. And just starting last year,

[1:35:38] That. Is not happening anymore. So of course, if they

[1:35:41] want it, we'll go and talk to them. But. They

[1:35:45] don't necessarily see as much detail as you all are

[1:35:47] seeing. Okay. Thank you. That's super helpful. The Cushman reveg.

[1:35:54] Why is it in such poor shape? Well, great question,

[1:35:59] and I think the AG staff would probably be able

[1:36:02] to answer that much better. Than I could. It's partly

[1:36:05] because of the location and what the pressures are in

[1:36:09] that. Area. And we have long term. Well, we had

[1:36:13] a long term lessee there who just didn't. Keep up

[1:36:17] with his responsibilities despite. Every kind of encouragement. And whatever

[1:36:23] they could think of whether it was a characteristic. And

[1:36:25] so finally, he just didn't. Get renewed. And then we're

[1:36:29] left with what's there and we're trying to do. It

[1:36:32] differently and better going forward. I think that's my question

[1:36:34] because I've been out there. And it's devastated. And with

[1:36:39] a long term lessee like that, what is the stick?

[1:36:42] What stick do we have? Besides non renewal. That's it.

[1:36:46] The biggest one. Really? I mean, again. I know you're

[1:36:51] not egg staff. Yeah, I don't see anybody. I'm just

[1:36:55] curious if there. I mean, it seems. Like a very

[1:36:58] binary thing. And it's difficult at times to deciding that

[1:37:06] season whether somebody is managing that land well. Or not,

[1:37:09] and. It just seems to me that there should be

[1:37:12] more tools. For parks and open space staff to use

[1:37:16] with the lessee. Then, like, you're renewed. Or you're not

[1:37:19] renewed. If that land management. Isn't actually occurring. What I

[1:37:25] can say about that. Tony, I agree with you and.

[1:37:30] Partly it's a cultural issue, and so some farmers are

[1:37:33] more eager to adopt new and different practices. And we

[1:37:37] rely so heavily on our farmers. We call them our

[1:37:39] partners in conservation, because we certainly don't have the staff

[1:37:42] capacity to care for all those ag properties. So. It's

[1:37:48] a delicate balance, and you can imagine for the AG

[1:37:51] staff. Who? Have those relationships with the farmers. They want

[1:37:57] them to be trusted friends. So it's a little bit

[1:38:01] of a. I know it's hard. I get that. We're

[1:38:05] working really hard on that. I can tell you that

[1:38:06] much. But I don't. Know exactly where we are, but

[1:38:08] I know we're working on providing incentives and even grants

[1:38:12] for more soil health programs to take a little bit

[1:38:15] of the risk away and help farmers maybe try newer.

[1:38:22] Things that they haven't done before and so on. Okay.

[1:38:27] Doesn't make me happy, but okay. Since we're on farming.

[1:38:30] No, I will highlight that as something that. 'd be

[1:38:34] great. Maybe have a conversation with Mike or somebody around

[1:38:37] that, right, since we're. On the topic of egg. The

[1:38:42] cost of a center pivot, of putting a center pivot

[1:38:44] in is high, right? It's a lot of money, and

[1:38:47] I'm just curious. The lessees don't seem to share in

[1:38:51] that cost. So we're putting 250,000 into a center pivot

[1:38:57] or whatever. That's actually. Correct. You. The way it works.

[1:39:07] Is, the less he's actually by the center pivot and

[1:39:09] they get the funding from. The NRCS natural resource conservation

[1:39:13] service. There's a grant program where they get reimbursed for

[1:39:16] some of the cost of that. We put in the

[1:39:19] infrastructure. Yeah. The power. If there's a reservoir needed or

[1:39:24] whatever, and we bring power to power the center pivot.

[1:39:28] We are also in the process. Of looking at buying

[1:39:34] those centerpoints from the farmers, because since they have bought

[1:39:37] them, so that then it becomes our, as the landowner,

[1:39:41] our asset to take care of and maintain. But if

[1:39:45] a farmer buys the center pivot. And they end their

[1:39:49] lease and they leave. They can take that center pivot

[1:39:50] with them if. They so choose if they've bought it.

[1:39:53] So our cost is the infrastructure cost, which. Clearly remains

[1:39:58] of the land. That's really helpful. Thank you. That's really

[1:40:01] helpful. Last question. Maybe the last question. I mean, the

[1:40:06] cardinal mill chaps my ass, to be honest. $4 million

[1:40:14] out of our budget. That's crazy. This is not you,

[1:40:18] obviously. Yeah. It's just hard to imagine that we spent

[1:40:24] $90,000 buying Cardinal mill. We put in a million dollars

[1:40:28] to stabilize it, and now we have a $4 million

[1:40:31] and counting. Right. This is not the end. This is

[1:40:35] not even the beginning of the end. This is the

[1:40:37] end at the beginning for how? Much money is going

[1:40:39] to get popped into that property. And so it makes

[1:40:42] me wonder. How good our environmental review was. Yeah, I

[1:40:46] know. A CDPhe changed their standards. I get that. But

[1:40:51] clearly gold, silver tongues and were all mine there. This

[1:40:55] was not in. Oh, my goodness. Like, there's mine tailings

[1:40:58] kind of issue. Acting director Wagner. Heidi wagner. I don't

[1:41:07] know exactly the question in there, Tony, but not sure

[1:41:10] there is one. I'm with you. The decision to purchase

[1:41:15] Cardinal Mill. Was made by previous staff, and really what

[1:41:21] they were looking at was the structure. And they placed

[1:41:25] a high value on that historic structure. And. Asking them

[1:41:32] that they've retired. And, hey, why did you purchase? And

[1:41:38] there was also a combination of permits that happened at

[1:41:41] the time of purchase. So there was a couple of

[1:41:43] different permits and. We will have our project manager come

[1:41:48] and talk to you about Cardinal Mill at a future

[1:41:50] date. And give you some of these details. But let's

[1:41:54] just say the discharge permits were combined, and it's actually

[1:41:57] the combination. Of those permits that is coming back to

[1:42:00] bite us, as well as how the drainage operates in

[1:42:05] that watershed is incredibly complex. So we're handling more than

[1:42:10] just the discharge from Cardinal Mill. It's just the. Whole

[1:42:14] area has been mined. And you're right. We've already spent.

[1:42:21] This year. I think we're getting close to 3 million,

[1:42:24] and so. We are actively trying to work with the

[1:42:27] state right now. On alternatives to those costs. Yeah, I

[1:42:33] appreciate that. And I know this is a long issue.

[1:42:38] Decisions made by other people as well. Thank you. Thank

[1:42:42] you. It does lead to my last question. I'll stop.

[1:42:48] Second to the last question. So I look at that

[1:42:51] 4 million and 3 million this year going out the

[1:42:53] door. I don't see anything and I may have missed

[1:42:56] it, so please tell me if I did any. Spending

[1:42:59] on the fairgrounds. And there's two things around the fairgrounds

[1:43:02] that concern me. One is. It's not clear to me

[1:43:05] there's any plan. For the fairgrounds moving forward. There was

[1:43:12] a plan. It costs too much. Everybody shelved it. There

[1:43:15] is no plan that I'm aware of. And secondly, it's

[1:43:19] kind of hard to believe that in this budget there's

[1:43:22] nothing in the fairgrounds. Am I missing that? There's nothing.

[1:43:28] In this plan. Fairground is actually a facility that is

[1:43:30] maintained by the county, not by our department. It's maintained

[1:43:34] by the facility, the county facilities department, so there's plenty

[1:43:37] going on there that we don't even see. It doesn't

[1:43:41] get run through our budget. That's something we could probably

[1:43:44] find out more and bring back that information. There's not

[1:43:48] nothing going. Yeah, I'm sure there's something going on that's

[1:43:51] good to know that it's not actually our budget I'm

[1:43:54] curious around. The planning. Is that us or is that.

[1:43:57] That was led by somebody in the architects division, but.

[1:44:02] We were very closely involved in working with that. I

[1:44:04] mean, Joe was. And do we know where that's going.

[1:44:08] I haven't heard. Yeah, as far as I've heard, it's

[1:44:10] just paused. For now because it was so expensive and

[1:44:13] it wasn't a high priority for our decision. Makers. Yeah,

[1:44:17] if we could maybe request. Just update on that? I'm

[1:44:21] not sure it's Joe's update. It's probably somebody higher up

[1:44:27] in one of the. Or either the county or pos.

[1:44:30] But. He's done a great job managing it, but I'm

[1:44:34] just curious about what's. The future of the planning around

[1:44:38] the fairgrounds, given that it was too expensive. Got shelved.

[1:44:41] And. Now it's just crickets. Thanks. Thank you. All right.

[1:44:49] John, you got one? Yeah. John Wright. Pose, act. The

[1:44:54] projects you've proposed. It seems like they all make sense

[1:44:59] that are all required. But a $9 million price tag.

[1:45:05] Is this something? That county commissioners are expecting. Was this

[1:45:10] planned ahead of time? Or is this something where it's

[1:45:14] $9 million out of. The blue. Sure spending $9 million

[1:45:20] is one thing when it's within the planned context. If

[1:45:24] it's out of the blue. That's a different issue. Yeah,

[1:45:30] I think that's a pretty simple one to answer. Good.

[1:45:34] $2 million line item that I was explaining in response

[1:45:38] to Tony's earlier question. That's been in our budget for

[1:45:42] as long as I can remember. And I took this

[1:45:44] over more years ago than I care to admit. I

[1:45:47] would have to divulge my age to tell you that.

[1:45:51] But, yeah, they always expect that. The projects that are

[1:45:57] the larger dollar amounts, they are aware of those because

[1:46:01] they're all ongoing, and they're all continuing. I think, almost

[1:46:06] without exception, I could be wrong. There might be one

[1:46:09] or two. But I believe. They're all certainly the cardinal

[1:46:16] water quality. They're well aware of that. And the Prince

[1:46:19] Lake, the prairie run, the Howl ditch, the heron Lake.

[1:46:22] So a lot of these like, for example, prairie run.

[1:46:25] Had. A very thorough planning process. And then. A very

[1:46:31] thorough. Public input. And hearing and. Yeah, we don't have

[1:46:36] to go there. But they're well aware of that, and

[1:46:40] so they understand and agree with those priorities. So those

[1:46:44] things are, and they're also all funded. And I fail

[1:46:47] to mention this, I'm just realizing. They're all funded out

[1:46:51] of our sales tax, our open space sales tax. So

[1:46:54] it's. Not as though. They're having to take something out

[1:46:57] of the general fund and take it away from a

[1:47:00] different department within the county. This is all the money

[1:47:03] that has been dedicated for open space purposes. And so.

[1:47:09] We want to justify them and show why they're important

[1:47:12] and they're a high. Priority now, but it is the

[1:47:15] money that is voted on and approved for open space

[1:47:18] purchases, so. You're expecting. Our. Based on what we think.

[1:47:28] You're doing a good job, which I do. But what's

[1:47:32] the reason? If it's something that's expected, what's the reason

[1:47:36] for asking. We still have to go through the budget

[1:47:41] process and. They have to approve it so that it

[1:47:45] can be, the budgets can be set up and there's

[1:47:48] all this stuff that happens behind the scenes through the

[1:47:50] finance division, where all the tax money goes and so

[1:47:53] on. So they still have to appropriate it, and then

[1:47:56] we have to set up our budgets within oracle and

[1:47:59] all those things. So that's just how it goes. It's

[1:48:01] the way the county process works. Thank you. Derek, did

[1:48:07] you have a question? I did. Okay, well, then we'll

[1:48:15] go to Christine and we'll come back, okay? I appreciate

[1:48:18] Christine Johnson Poseack I appreciate. The questions about the federal

[1:48:22] and state grants and about the cardinal bill, but something

[1:48:25] that hasn't been asked. If we are fencing moose out.

[1:48:32] I don't quite understand. Where are they going? And are

[1:48:38] we pushing moose onto someone else? No. It's a smallish

[1:48:44] area. Near the delon barn on Caribou ranch. There's a

[1:48:49] big wet area there. The fen and so on. At

[1:48:53] least. What I understand is our plant ecologists have expected

[1:48:56] the cottonwoods to come back. That they're just not, because.

[1:49:00] They are getting decimated by the moose, so they want

[1:49:02] to give them a chance to get reestablished. Thank you.

[1:49:06] That makes sense. Okay. I would imagine it might be

[1:49:08] temporary fencing until they. Get out of reach of the

[1:49:11] moose. Probably. Derek. Derek Turner tagging out to John's question.

[1:49:20] And. We've had some long presentations about the budget process

[1:49:23] at our retreat, and I hope that those continued? No,

[1:49:26] I think that's great. As part of that, so. We're

[1:49:32] voting to recommend that your budget submittal includes this package.

[1:49:38] We're asking you to. Say that you approved. You've looked

[1:49:42] at and approved. This package of capital and stewardship projects

[1:49:46] and the broader parks and open space budget includes other

[1:49:51] packages. Are those also coming? For a similar presentation. There's

[1:49:57] various elements to the budget, and one of them is

[1:49:59] personnel. Those aren't really the kinds of things we bring

[1:50:05] to you. So. No, this is it. I'm sure we

[1:50:10] could come back and explain how all these pieces fit

[1:50:13] together and to create the puzzle. And I think we've

[1:50:17] had some of those presentations in the last year. Teresa

[1:50:22] is not here. I think she has mentioned bringing at

[1:50:25] least the information. Presentation to say. Here's what we're submitting,

[1:50:31] even if it's not. For a recommendation. I find that

[1:50:33] to be super interesting. Yeah, and Heidi just whispered in

[1:50:37] my ear. That Teresa is planning to do that. Great.

[1:50:41] And then I guess the other thing that I would

[1:50:42] find really interesting is. An update on here's last year's

[1:50:48] cast projects. Here's how much we've spent here's. How much?

[1:50:54] Did you? Stick. Typically, I would expect that you're coming

[1:50:59] under budget. Or pretty close, right? I mean, I guess.

[1:51:05] You don't ever want to have money left over, right?

[1:51:07] I guess it's different. Maybe. For your dedicated pool, but

[1:51:12] something that is also the look back at cast projects

[1:51:16] from last year. And how that. Yeah, absolutely. In the

[1:51:20] past, we used to do this more towards the end

[1:51:22] of the year, and I always included. Like an update

[1:51:26] on how the current year had gone. We kind of

[1:51:30] adjusted our timing with this to fit better with our

[1:51:35] division's budgeting. Planning, but at the end of the year,

[1:51:38] we always come and give an update for all the

[1:51:41] accomplishments of the year. It's kind of wrapped together, and

[1:51:45] so it doesn't necessarily pull out. The capital versus some

[1:51:49] of the programmatic things and the operational things and so

[1:51:51] on. But, yeah, we do do that. And if you

[1:51:54] would like to see a little bit more specifically on

[1:51:56] capital projects. We can certainly do that. Great. For my

[1:52:01] continued going on, but. I sometimes would love to hear.

[1:52:09] We're six months into the year. How is the sales

[1:52:11] tax collection going? With what you budgeted. Are we doing?

[1:52:15] Pretty well. And I know at least at a year

[1:52:19] end it would be nice to see, but I'm always

[1:52:21] interested in seeing where we're at, with what we anticipated,

[1:52:24] what we're collecting. I think that's kind of a pretty

[1:52:27] standard thing that governments have to do. We have to

[1:52:30] adjust. And finally. Project Pacific Prairie run year three, starting

[1:52:38] the design. For phase two. Any updates on. What we

[1:52:44] can expect to see for phase one this year. Heidi

[1:52:46] is a perfect person to tell you more about. Heidi

[1:52:50] wagner yes. So it's going well. I guess I can

[1:52:55] share good news, bad news regarding the southwest cluster of

[1:52:59] Prairie Run, which I think we had shared with you

[1:53:01] previously that we were hopeful to open that section of

[1:53:04] the property. By the end of the year. The bad

[1:53:08] news is we don't anticipate achieving that deadline. But the

[1:53:13] good news is. The reason that we are not going

[1:53:16] to achieve it is because the county has recently updated

[1:53:19] their procurement policies. And to be more inclusive, so. We

[1:53:27] can hire minority owned businesses and have a process to

[1:53:32] look for minority businesses in our contracting. Process. And prairie

[1:53:37] run. Was selected to be the first one out of

[1:53:40] the gate to use that process. So that's the good

[1:53:44] news. So the bad news. It did set us off

[1:53:49] of our timeline, but I can't think of a better

[1:53:51] reason. So we do hope to have that opened instead

[1:53:55] the first quarter of 26, and that would be the

[1:53:58] southwest piece. We are currently underway with design on the

[1:54:03] northeast cluster. It's actually headed towards 50%. Design already, and

[1:54:08] so next year's funding is not really about design. It's

[1:54:13] about the clomers and. All of the other permits that

[1:54:18] we'll have to obtain. To start construction in 27. Great.

[1:54:23] Thanks. Yeah. All right. Any more questions? Going? Gone. Actually,

[1:54:31] I do have a comment and a question. I think

[1:54:33] it's a pretty short question. And this is Janet. George

[1:54:36] Posek. I better set a good example. So my comment

[1:54:42] is as a frequent user of pella crossing, it's good

[1:54:46] to see I've been watching. For several years now, at

[1:54:50] least since the flood, and it reopened. So it's good

[1:54:53] to see that it's getting fixed, and I'll be encouraged

[1:54:56] to watch as that occurs in the next year or

[1:54:59] so. So my question is, going on to the perimeter

[1:55:03] fencing. I'm supportive. It's good. To see the perimeter fencing

[1:55:07] getting done. There's a big need for that. My question

[1:55:11] is. Is wildlife friendly fencing being used on the perimeter.

[1:55:16] Fencing Colorado Parks wildlife has a fencing with wildlife in

[1:55:20] mind, and I don't know if that's. What if that

[1:55:24] kind of fencing. Is being used, and I would encourage

[1:55:26] that that be considered. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure, but

[1:55:31] I'm pretty sure they use the one. With the more

[1:55:34] flexible wire on the top or on the bottom, like,

[1:55:37] no barbs on the yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah, exactly. That'd

[1:55:40] be great. I'm saying it's based on conversations I've overheard,

[1:55:44] so I can't. Guarantee that it may be different from

[1:55:48] perimeter versus interior. I'm not sure, but we can come

[1:55:51] back to you with that. It would be nice to

[1:55:53] know because the old fancy and there's a lot of

[1:55:55] old. Fencing. That's not that way. So it's great if

[1:55:58] the news can be that. Way. All right, so I

[1:56:02] don't see any public comment. Do we have nick? Do

[1:56:06] we have anybody online? We don't have any hands raised,

[1:56:11] all right? I don't think at this point we need

[1:56:15] more discussion. There will be a chance after a motion

[1:56:17] since we've got some new people here. So does anybody

[1:56:21] want to make a motion? What we're going to motion

[1:56:23] is recommendation to the Boulder county commissioners to prove the

[1:56:28] proposed parks and oatmeal space. 2026 capital and stewardship projects,

[1:56:34] as described in the memo. And as described by staff.

[1:56:39] Is anybody ready to make that motion? I'll make the

[1:56:43] motion. So moved. Anybody want to do a second? I'll

[1:56:48] second. Okay, so we got a motion, and we've. Got

[1:56:51] a second. Is there any more discussion? I don't see

[1:56:55] any discussion. All right, so we're going to go to

[1:57:01] a vote on what I just read all in favor.

[1:57:06] All right, motion passes. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank

[1:57:10] you, Tina. And again, thank you to our staff who

[1:57:13] do all the work behind the scenes and who don't

[1:57:15] get to stand up. Here and hear. Your positive comments,

[1:57:20] but I'll pass them on point. All right. Again, I

[1:57:26] don't see any public here, but the next agenda item

[1:57:28] is public comment, period. For items not on the agenda.

[1:57:32] No one's in the room. Do we have anybody online?

[1:57:36] I'll give a second for anybody on the zoom call

[1:57:39] to raise their hand if they would like to make

[1:57:41] comments. I don't see any hands raised. Okay. Thank you.

[1:57:51] Agenda. Item six is postac members comment period for items

[1:57:54] not on the agenda. Do you have anybody want to

[1:57:58] comment? Derek turner kozak. Popped into my head when I

[1:58:03] was driving. On. I always forget what number it is.

[1:58:09] Between Lookout and 52 on the road that goes north.

[1:58:12] And south, where we just bought. I assume the county

[1:58:15] commissioner is closed on that 79th. The property that we

[1:58:21] talked about last month and. I know, right, that it

[1:58:25] was going to be. Another facility. That county owns it.

[1:58:28] Surrounded by city. I just couldn't help. That's. One of

[1:58:31] the most spectacular views in our county. Traveled frequently. I

[1:58:36] would love for the county to consider. Some way to

[1:58:39] have a little stop there, like a rest stop with

[1:58:42] a little parking lot and. A place to enjoy the

[1:58:45] view and maybe be an opportunity for some interpretive. Sign.

[1:58:53] Boulder county parks and open space. Just strikes me as

[1:58:57] a place where I think it would be nice to

[1:59:00] have some way to enjoy that spot. And. There's no

[1:59:05] other with the city land being closed. I think it

[1:59:08] provides an opportunity. Sure. Janice Whistman again. Hi, Derek. Thank

[1:59:13] you for that suggestion. Just a reminder to all of

[1:59:16] you that when we come here with a recommendation and

[1:59:19] then we go to the board. Really? A couple of

[1:59:20] weeks later to get their approval on acquisitions. There's still

[1:59:24] a due diligence process and it takes a while to

[1:59:26] close, and we have not yet purchased that property. Just

[1:59:29] FYI. But it is going to happen this summer, we

[1:59:33] hope. And then I'm happy to pass. That suggestion along

[1:59:37] and we'll see. Where that might go, so thank you.

[1:59:41] Thanks. And I'd second his idea. That's a great idea.

[1:59:45] All right. Any more from Posec? I don't see anything,

[1:59:49] so, moving on. It's director's update time, Heidi. All right.

[1:59:56] Heidi Wagner, strategic foundation's deputy director. And I am not

[2:00:02] Terese. She is. Enjoying some well deserved time off, so

[2:00:05] I'm filling in for her tonight. Just a few. Updates

[2:00:08] to share with you. Back to the real estate world.

[2:00:13] Janice mentioned this earlier, but we received. A very generous

[2:00:18] donation of a conservation easement for 136 acres west of

[2:00:23] Gold Hill. It's valued about $1 million and. It is

[2:00:29] a part of that four mile. Creek area, Bald Mountain

[2:00:33] Environmental Conservation Area, if you're familiar with that. And it's

[2:00:36] also a rare plant community, so we were delighted to

[2:00:40] receive that very good news. Is that Easter west? Sorry.

[2:00:44] Vicky Lawrence with Posac. Is that east of Gold Hill

[2:00:46] or. West of gold. It's west. Bald Mountain is quite

[2:00:49] always east. So I'm just confused. It's like the environmental

[2:00:52] conservation area associated with Bald Mountain and four Mile Creek.

[2:00:58] It's all big zone. And then I don't know if

[2:01:03] anyone had a chance last weekend, but education and outreach.

[2:01:07] Hosted animals on the farm at the ag Heritage center.

[2:01:10] Did anyone get a chance to go. It was a

[2:01:13] really neat event. The pictures that were shared with staff.

[2:01:17] Were really meaningful. And there was a big crowd and

[2:01:21] lots of volunteers. Participated, and we're at that very successful

[2:01:26] event. And I believe they host it annually. Can I

[2:01:29] tell something about that? Of course. Sorry. Jump in. But

[2:01:34] trace was there. And trace, as you may know, Posec

[2:01:37] member is also on the foundation. Board and the foundation

[2:01:40] hosted a table. So Trace helped out to staff the

[2:01:43] table and helped us. Set up and everything, so. Yay,

[2:01:45] trace. We appreciate him representing all of you here. And

[2:01:51] other happy news. I think this is a first, which

[2:01:55] is why our agricultural division shared it. For an update

[2:01:58] tonight. But one of our tenants, Dan Lisco, he hired

[2:02:06] a drone company to seed Tef. And drones are becoming

[2:02:13] more of a thing in agriculture. And we got, again,

[2:02:17] some great pictures out there. And, of course, that permit

[2:02:20] had to go through. Parks to approve the drone. But

[2:02:26] it was quite successful, so. That was a story we

[2:02:30] wanted to share. Another application of drone on our agricultural

[2:02:34] lands. And then, as you just heard from Janet that

[2:02:39] the commissioners did approve. The purchase that Derek and John

[2:02:45] just mentioned, the range view property. They did approve it,

[2:02:48] but as she, to reiterate, it has not closed yet.

[2:02:52] And then, last but not least, have any of you

[2:02:55] had the opportunity. To enjoy our first three episodes of

[2:03:00] the Parks and open space podcast. Coria is no longer

[2:03:05] here. But I have to tell you, he has done

[2:03:11] an amazing job putting together. An incredibly professional podcast. And

[2:03:16] he has posted it to every podcast platform as well

[2:03:21] as uploaded a video to YouTube. So if you look

[2:03:24] at our parks and open space YouTube channel, it is

[2:03:26] there. Or you can look at Boulder county parks in

[2:03:30] open space. On any of. The apps that you get

[2:03:34] to your podcast on right now. Tina was our first

[2:03:38] guest, followed by Therese, followed by myself. And we're going

[2:03:43] to have future episodes to come. But the first three

[2:03:47] are out, and I would encourage you to check those

[2:03:50] out and share them with your networks. They're pretty neat.

[2:03:54] And those are my updates. All right. Thank you. Thank

[2:03:58] you, Heidi. Any questions, comments? Thank you for reminding us

[2:04:03] of the podcast. Yes. Thank you, Janet. Great job. Thank

[2:04:09] you, Derek. Great job. All right, well, we are adjourned.

[2:04:14] And I got to have this hammer and do something.

[2:04:16] With it. There we are. Good evening, everyone.

Parks and Open Space Advisory Committee

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