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can you hear me? Yes, we can, thank you.
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Hi Michelle, can we test your audio please? Can you
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hear me? Yes we can, thank you.
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Good evening. And welcome to the accessibility advisory committee meeting.
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We'll begin today's meeting with the approval of Agenda. Oh,
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sorry. Apologise like to get a roll call. Finesse tantello.
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Present. No, no piscioto, I'm President Paul Anderson. Prends it
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Thank you Camilla Belleth, I apologise if I said that
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wrong. Michelle Buckland. I can see I'm here. Sherry Hopkins.
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Kathia Thank you. Kathia Johnson. Sends regrets. Frank who spadafora.
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President. Sukpir Tank sends regrets I believe. And city council
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right power. Sends regrets as well. We like to start
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with approval of the agenda Do any members have any
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changes to the agenda. See none may I have a
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motion to approve the agenda as published and circulated. Franco's
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padafora here I will send motion through. Any opposed. Thank
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you the motion carries. Members in the Council chambers Please
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remember to turn off your mic in front of you.
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Uh When you speak so everyone can hear you. Declarations
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under the municipal conflict of interest Act. Are there any
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members that have a conflict. Seeing none. Cleric will sew
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note for the meeting minutes. Item number four previous minutes.
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Minutes for accessibility advisory committee from May 26 2026. The
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minutes were considered by committee of council on June 17
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2026 and approved by council on June 26 2026. The
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minutes are provided for committee's information. Are there any comments
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or questions. May I have a motion.
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So this is only for information no motion is required.
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We'll move into five Presentations and delegations. Members online Uh
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welcome I just want to remind you that we have
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quorum for this meeting. Um, if you decide to drop
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off online Um, for those attending online We would lose
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Corham and I will have to adjourn the meeting So
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please be aware of that. Thank you. Thank you. So
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we're moving to Presentations and delegations First Presentation 5. 1
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Delegation by Kate Riccimini Program lead Advocacy in Accessibly Community
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Engagement CINB regarding misuse of tactile walking surface indicators TWSIs
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South side of Queen Street between Main Street and Theatre
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Lane. Kate Please go ahead. Thank you Sure everyone hear
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me Yes And you have five minutes to present Thank
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you. Of course Thank you Uh Thank you all for
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the opportunity to let me speak to you And thank
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you to Vanessa for inviting me Next slide please. I
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Wanted to start with a definition Uh for tactile locking
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surface indicators or twistees TWSIs Uh... They are a special
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kind of paver that conveys Information about what's going on
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on the ground in front of you via texture indicationally
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sound And there are two types Um or warning twisties
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Which are truncated domes Um, that you find often that
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For example The corners of intersections Um, and then directional
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disease Which give you a path to follow These are
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kind of three or four parallel lines That you can
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follow to get from point A to point B Next
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slide please. This slide gives Um... Two examples from Ottawa
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Where I live Uh The first shows a training platform
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And you can see the truncated domes The attention twisties
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along the platform Edge to warn you that you are
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at the edge And then a line of directional twisties
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going down the platform Um They lead you from the
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elevator Which is behind me along the platform To get
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on the train on my other Uh picture It is
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an intersection And I have Um, there are truncated dome
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Attention Tweezies at the edge of the bike path and
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travel Um traffic And then there is a line of
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direction of Twizzies Leaving you through this intersection This is
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a little bit of a complicated one Uh Next slide
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please. Um So my next slide Um is a picture
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that was sent to me about of Queen Street in
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Brampton. Um, on this slide Um we have Um... The
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sidewalk and the bike path And there has been used
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to demarcate between the sidewalk and the bike path A
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line of directional twisties I can tell you as a
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white Kane user I would follow this line And clip
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The garbage can that is right beside the twisties I
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would hit Um... The lamp posts, all of which have
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been planted Right in the middle of this line Uh...
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Rather than being a useful way to demarcate between Where
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the fliedwalk is and where the bike path is... Um...
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This This tells me there's a line to follow And
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it's going to walk me into all of the Street
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furniture Uh... Which obviously is not very good for safety
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Next slide Please. Um On this slide I have a
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picture Um... Highlighting a pilot project Which the city of
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Ottawa Um... Has done And normally you would have a
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half height curb between a bike path and a sidewalk
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Um... On this slide I have a picture of Uh
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This is Mackenzie King Bridge And due to the way
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The bridge is built If they can't do that that
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way So they have... Bypass and the sidewalk are the
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same level Uh... And but between them They have this
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line of tactile walking circuits indicators that are this crosshatch
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pattern So they're different from the Attention Tweezies Which are
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the truncated dome And from the directional Twizies Which are
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You know The going in a straight line So if
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I feel these with my cane I know it's not
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The warning that there's a drop - off or a
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traffic Um... On the other side And I know it's
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not Aligned to follow I know it's something else And
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so in this case It's The other side is The
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bike path Be careful I wanted to show you this
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Because this could be a potential solution for what's going
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on Um... In Brampton... On Queen Street Uh... And I
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would encourage you to Your City Council and staff to
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reach out to staff at the City of Ottawa This
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was a project that we did in conjunction The city
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of Ottawa Consulted with members of the Blind Community Not
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just myself at CNIB But others who use white canes
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and guide dogs Um to make sure that they had
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come up with something That would be distinct Uh in
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cane detectable and wouldn't get confused Uh, uh, one of
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the other types of walking Surf - fit indicators Next
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slide Please. Uh My final slide is One final example
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Uh... This shows... Um... Where I work Uh... The Property
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Manager used The Directional Twizies to build A to do
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a path along the sidewalk So you could follow The
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path along sidewalk And nowhere You're going Then COVID happened
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And this restaurant built a patio right over top of
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The directional walking surface indicators Um, and so I have
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two pictures The first picture is from Before They before
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they fixed it of me Uh, walking into The Pattier
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Wall with my white cane Um... Following that path Uh...
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In this case What the property management did was They
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took out the directional Twittes and put a square of
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truncated domes Um... As a sort of Attention This path
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is ending Um... So when I follow it with my
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white cane And that's what Shown in this second picture
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on the slide Um... I know that's where The path
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ends and that I can no longer keep going in
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that straight line In this case I have to walk
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around The patio to find The path on the other
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side Uh... This could be something... Um... Was relatively easy
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It seems for land The property manager to fix this
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by simply replacing the Theresies with pavers Um... And putting
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a new one in. They didn't have to do a
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whole bunch of digging up or anything Um, pretty easy
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Fix to make it a little more safer Um, next
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slide Please. Um. This is Just My final slide to
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say Thank you once again for inviting me I hope
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you will Uh Pursue Uh Like I said and he
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fired with the City of Ottawa On there What they've
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been doing I would also encourage you to check out
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Uh... Clearing Our path Which is CNIBs built environment guidelines
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Um... For city planners Engineers Architecture Um... Architects When building
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Uh... Infrastructure Like bus stops And you know bike lanes
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and sidewalks And doors and all kinds of things Um...
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In the built environment Uh... It gives a bunch of
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guidelines And... sort of... Things to keep in mind So
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that you can make them as accessible for people Who
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are blind to death blinder have low vision as possible?
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Again Thank you very much for your time. Thank you
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for that Presentation Kate Thank you so much Uh do
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any members have any questions or comments regarding The Presentation
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And members Online You can use The Chat Function to
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indicate You wish to speak Thank you. Hi Kate I
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just wanted to thank you so much for coming out
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to the meeting tonight And delegating I know You were
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on the road today So it's I know It's been
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a bit of a long day But I really appreciate
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Um... You joining us tonight And sharing this really important
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information. Thank you. And this is Franco speaking I'm actually
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a member of the CNIB So I'm glad to see
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that Uh... The CNIB is getting involved in this I
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think It's an important issue that needs to be looked
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into Thanks. Thank you Um and I guess if you're
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a White King user Uh be careful along Green Street
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So you don't crash in Denny Lampposts. Michelle Go ahead.
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Thank you so much for your presentation Kate Appreciate it
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Um I was gonna ask you based on locations and
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having to use your cane How has the experience been
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with transit in relation to that. And relation to transit.
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I Have to admit So I am... I am in
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Ottawa Um So I haven't actually used transit and Brampton
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yet Um Vanessa reached out to The CNIB Entemi Cause
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like I said In Ottawa They use these directional Tweezies
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And has spent a lot of time figuring out Especially
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the demarcation between sidewalks and bike paths In a way
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that is going to keep cyclists safe and keep pedestrian
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safe and keep Those of us who are white Kane
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users from wandering into the cycle path by accident. Okay
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I was wondering if there was a requirement Or if
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it would be Value - wide of then those same
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pathways in the marks for people who may have to
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get on and off the bus So yeah. I do
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know that Um in clearing our path There is a
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section on bus stops and bustations Um, and so it
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does give some recommendations there I don't remember if it
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talks about tactile We're walking surface indicators with regards to
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breast Aspecifically But that would be a good place to
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start. Okay. Alright does anybody have any other questions Uh
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for Kate before she leaves us. No C non -
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I may have a motion to receive the item 5.
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1 O motion to receive the item 5. 1 Vanessa
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Tantalo. Thank you The motion Um your post. Seeing none
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motion is carried Kate Thank you so much for your
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time. Thank you very much for having me. We'll move
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to 5. 2 Presentation. By Rowa Debt Sorry apologise for
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that Uh Chowdry Transportation Policy Planner regarding Complete Street Standards
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Upgrade. Provided You have the floor An apologised for the
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name I'm really sorry. So it's Rowe The Cha -
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3 But nice to meet everyone Um Thank you. And
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I guess I'll get started then Yes Um So I'm
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a transportation planner at the city And my group Transportation
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planning is part of Integrated City Planning under planning building
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and growth management as Transportation Planners We are responsible for
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guiding the development of transportation infrastructure services And policies to
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meet Brampton's Transportation and mobility needs. Next slide please.
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And to guide that development We have been working on
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the city's transportation Master Plan also known as the Brampton
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Mobility Plan or the BMP The BMPs The City's long
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- term strategy for transportation infrastructure and initiatives That will
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guide future investments to support growth in the city The
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mobility plan was endorsed by counseling September 2025 along with
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some more chair targets and a number of infrastructure projects
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There is a list of action Items in the BMP
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to support the physical infrastructure One of these items speaks
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to updating the city's design standards to reflect complete streets
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guidance. Next slide please. So what does that all mean.
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Design standards are used by planners and engineers to essentially
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plan and build roadways They set out The physical dimensions
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and arrangement of the roadway travelings and boulevard space When
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undertaking Municipal road construction and development projects within Brampton Contractors
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and developers are required to adhere to city of Brampton
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Standard drawings So what's currently shown on screen is our
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existing roadway standard And I've taken the more technical engineering
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drawing in the background and shown it in the figure
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The best way to visualize this would be to think
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of it as a slice of the roadway And we
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can see left to right There's the tree that's shown
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in the technical drawing in the figure Lamp post sidewalk
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through travel lanes and median And then the same mirrored
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on the other side And this is what we would
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use as a starting point for any major road project
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Um... And this is just an example But the roadway
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with would change depending on what kind of road it
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is If it's a main road or if it's a
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local road Our current standards are outdated and have a
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vehicle focus can tell by the pavement with allocated in
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our existing standards And with this standard update What we
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hope to do is update the technical guidance to ensure
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that all modes of transportation Special vulnerable users such as
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pedestrians and cyclists are given adequate Dedicated space that is
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safe in the roadway alongside the vehicles. Next slide please.
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And that's where the complete streets piece comes in The
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project has focused on complete streets and complete streets are
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essentially Streets that are designed to be safe for all
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users and should accommodate for all people of all ages
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and abilities by balancing the competing demands for corridor space
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Complete streets include dedicated space for pedestrian cyclists and transit
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vehicles and focus on placemaking through inclusion of green space
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Streetscaping and other urban design features to make Uh, uh,
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make the street feel more like a place rather than
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just a convait for a movement. And they are typically
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context - sensitive and support the land use around them
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So not every street would look the same For instance,
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a neighbourhood street would single - family homes would look
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very different than a downtown street with retail frontage in
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an intensification area And are updated design standards would reflect
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the context of the different land uses in Brampton. Next
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slide please. So this is a list of standards that
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we're operating through this project I'm gonna go through all
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of them But what I want to highlight is that
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in addition to the cross - section standard as I
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showed earlier We are also updating intersection standards. Next slide
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please. So this is an example of one of our
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proposed standards It's still in draft But in comparison to
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the existing standard There is wider sidewalk space, a dedicated
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planting and furnishing zone dedicated cycle tracks with buffers from
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The travel lane And this exempt particularly would be applied
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to Jason to a commercial or industrial land use such
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as torboom road or kennedied road through commercial areas And
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we received feedback from our accessibility office That we need
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to review the guidance on how to approach a separation
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between cycle tracks and sidewalks through this exercise. For all
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new standards that we are proposing We do have the
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planting and furnishing zone situated between the pedestrian and cycling
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facilities However we understand that these are the ideal scenarios
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And we may not always be able to achieve the
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required with to include a full planting and furnishing zone
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Especially during retrofit projects or projects with constrained space So
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we have been reviewing what Other jurisdictions are doing and
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what to include for guidance in the situation where the
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cycle tech is right adjacent to the sidewalk and a
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planting information zone cannot be accommodated. Next slide please. So
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we have research commonly used tactile walking surface indicators Including
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the direction indicators which are the flat topped elongated bars
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The tactile warning delineators Uh that are the trapezoidal race
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services and the tractile Attention indicators which are the tyrannocated
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domes We've also have some samples back there if anyone
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is interested in taking a look after We can pass
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them around Next slide please. So the preferred approach at
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City of Ottawa is to have the half height barrier
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curve between the possession and cycling facility The barrier curb
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would be cane detectable due to the difference in elevation
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But also won't be a pedal strike hazard for cyclists
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may not be a parent visually at first But as
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you can see in the diagram on the top right
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There is an elevation difference Um, however the elevation difference
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could also cause adrenainage issues depending on existing conditions and
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the way the grade and drainage flow currently operates. Um,
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next slide please. So in areas where drainage or the
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other issues and the half - height curb cannot be
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implemented Ottawa has an alternative approach in areas Um, where
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that's not feasible to have the dropped curb This tech
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Which is the tactile delineator plates. The tactile deny or
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paint was piloted by the city of Ottawa on Mixed
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King Bridge and was deemed successful and is now The
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recommended alternative to wherever the half - height curb cannot
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be a comma dated. Next slide peace. The city of
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Toronto's approach similar Ottawa is a height difference between the
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cycle track and the sidewalk as well They - this
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could be a cheap through either a barrier curb, a
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beveled curb or a fully mountable curb as shown in
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the slide Again The elevation difference may cause drainage issues
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if existing conditions are not favorable And their alternative approach
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is doing cents all a band of visually contrasted king
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detectable unit pavers. Um... And you can see that image
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in the bottom left And I believe I've seen a
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similar application in Mississauga as well. Next slide please. So
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the slide says Metrolinks But that's incorrect This is actually
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a federal recommendations from accessibility standards Canada It was just
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shared by a colleague from Metro Lynx. Is king detectable
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Um... The trapzoidal tactile warning didn't delineater And signals are
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no crossing point But it's still transversible by strollers and
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mobility AIDS It could be used to identify the edge
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of the pedestrian path in a shared or adjacent to
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a cycle tracks Um... I've not been able to find
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an application of this Insider, Ontario But it is research
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- backed and becoming an emerging Practice in North America.
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Next slide please. So we've shared some of our initial
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thoughts and research with our operations on maintenance team regarding
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the long - term impacts of the half - height
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curb and the trapezoidal delineator as those are not currently
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installed anywhere in Brampton We're still discussing with the preferred
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solution would look like And we're quite in the early
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stages We'll work closely with both our Accessibility team and
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Opera instants and maintenance team to create a solution for
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Brampton Projects moving forward That works for everyone. Next slide
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please. So in the interim We're looking for feedback from
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the committee If the other jurisdictions we should consider in
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our review Even outside of Ontario or North America Again
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We're in the early phases and nothing has been finalised
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or tested If there are applications in the vicinity We
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could possibly coordinate site visits as well to better understand
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and inform the design for a Brampton specific solution. Next
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slide please. Thank you and let me know if you
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have any questions. Yes I have some questions. Uh Thank
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you for your presentation Um I'll let Vanessa go. She's
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already ready to rock and roll Um Thank you for
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this Roveda However I feel like this is too little
[58:24]
too late. Um, where was this when The Brampton Downtown
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Revitalization Project was being done? So this project is separate
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from The Downtown Revitalization Project and it's to inform future
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standards. But the current product as we saw in the
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CNAB Presentation The products were used incorrectly. So that was
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not my team You would have to defer any questions
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related to that to the demo Okay Can we defer
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the questions to whoever is responsible for it please Um
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Because this is a huge... This is a huge issue
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with that And it just seems very coincidental that everything
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that was in my email is a recommendation To the
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Accessibility team is now coming up in some sort of
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update in this And it's not to be honest This
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is not a standard Like I don't know if you
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have more documents But this just looks like a bunch
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of pictures on a presentation So I just I feel
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like this is a lot of saving face to be
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honest And I'm incredibly frustrated after being gas lit by
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the accessibility team since the end of May When I
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flagged this issue. It's a incredibly high risk safety issue
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It's a financial issue Because now the city is going
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to have to pay taxpayer dollars to repair these Um
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And it exposes the city to an incredible amount of
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liability Someone can issue a complaint to the human rights
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Tribunal. I'm just I'm absolutely I don't even have words
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for how frustrated I am. With this committee. And what
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I'm seeing Um... Be installed in Brampton. Large projects that
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have big impact from an accessibility perspective And also high
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financial price tag to it are not being brought to
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the council's attention I've been on the council for the
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last two and a half years And I have not
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seen any plans for The Downtown Revitalization Project This is
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not The first time that even code minimum requirements haven't
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been met Um... And I would just like The Minutes
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to show my complete frustration. And at this point This
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is a mandated committee. Required by the ministry of Accessibility
[1:01:02]
and seniors It's not a committee because Um... Brampton likes
[1:01:08]
to have it They're required to have it And if
[1:01:11]
information is being kept from the accessibility committee on purpose
[1:01:15]
So that certain accessibility features Don't need to be installed.
[1:01:20]
Or I really don't know the reason behind this to
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be honest Um. I'm just... I'm incredibly frustrated and disappointed
[1:01:31]
Um... I realise that I'm a volunteer on this committee
[1:01:35]
But I am also a building code and accessibility consultant
[1:01:39]
So I am knowledgeable in this realm I can read
[1:01:43]
drawings So if you put something in front of me
[1:01:45]
that is not correct I'm gonna call you out on
[1:01:47]
it. So and we appreciate that. But just to clarify
[1:01:56]
The downtown vitalization Project is being done by a separate
[1:01:59]
team And is completely separate Project This is a complete
[1:02:03]
street standard update To be fair This should have been
[1:02:06]
done long before the revitalization Project We have tactile direction
[1:02:11]
indicators use properly at peel Memorial hospital. So the excuse
[1:02:17]
for them to be used incorrectly In addition to that
[1:02:20]
It's not just the tactile direction indicators that were used
[1:02:23]
incorrectly You don't have any contrast on the tactile Um...
[1:02:29]
Attention indicators The clear width of the sidewalk does not
[1:02:32]
meet city of Brampton Minimum standards There's trees in the
[1:02:36]
way There are... Planters garbages in the way Um... And
[1:02:42]
again I reiterate that this is a huge liability for
[1:02:46]
the city of Brampton Um It's a huge safety issue
[1:02:50]
for citizens And this You know Do we not want
[1:02:55]
to be leaders in the accessibility realm rather than trying
[1:02:58]
to cut corners? And slip things by the accessibility Advisory
[1:03:03]
Committee. And I recognise that this is not a question
[1:03:07]
to you This is a question to city of Brampton.
[1:03:13]
Transit team or the Rhodes team as well as The
[1:03:16]
Accessibility Team What's going on here? So we're gonna try
[1:03:22]
our best to keep the Accessibility Team at the Sear
[1:03:26]
Brampton and The Accessibility Committee has involved as they would
[1:03:29]
like in the Complete Street Standard Project Um, we can...
[1:03:37]
Right now again As I mentioned We're still in the
[1:03:39]
early stages And nothing has been finalised for this update
[1:03:43]
And we are looking for your feedback Moving forward for
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any future projects Currently we don't have My understanding is
[1:03:51]
we don't have a standard For that delete Nation between
[1:03:54]
sidewalks and cycle tracks So that's something we're trying to
[1:03:58]
address through this standard update project. Um I would like
[1:04:04]
to ask whoever is responsible for the Providealization Project that
[1:04:10]
Um... They... I mean I don't know what we can
[1:04:13]
ask Because I feel like my hands are tied But...
[1:04:16]
I would like to ask them to come to The
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next meeting to speak to this I thought they were
[1:04:21]
supposed to come to this meeting In fact. I Wouldn't
[1:04:25]
have information on that Sorry. Uh I would
[1:04:35]
like to second Vanessa's point of view I think the
[1:04:37]
city has been substantial amount of money The River Tization
[1:04:41]
Uh... The Downtown Corps Uh... Obviously The tiles came They
[1:04:45]
were ordered for a reason I think that... With consulting
[1:04:48]
And we have a team of professionals that are supposed
[1:04:51]
to look after these jobs And obviously I believe one
[1:04:54]
of the slides shows that he came out in 2021
[1:04:57]
Way before that We really got it down to the
[1:04:59]
brass tack So the finishing of the product So I
[1:05:02]
think... I would like to second the Wenesis set in
[1:05:06]
terms of having somebody come to the next one and
[1:05:09]
explain What is going to be done going forward? Obviously
[1:05:13]
there is a product that People that use a white
[1:05:15]
cane Are going to assume that it is a good
[1:05:18]
An install properly product And if they're going to be
[1:05:21]
bumping into garbage cans going into the bicycle lanes Possibly
[1:05:25]
end up on the street hitting a light pole All
[1:05:27]
of those things I think I think we owe it
[1:05:29]
to the citizens of this great city That needs to
[1:05:32]
be looked at That needs to be addressed So just
[1:05:36]
like Vanessa said we are an accessibly advisory team So
[1:05:39]
we're not adhered to request But we would like to
[1:05:42]
see a proper fix to this I mean just leaving
[1:05:46]
it the way It is I don't think it's correct
[1:05:48]
Um sorry Ninja I was just going to add to
[1:05:51]
that Um... The additional items It's not just The tactile
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direction indicators It's the tactile Tension indicators It's the clear
[1:05:59]
width of the path It's the interruptions in the path
[1:06:02]
Um... Also if you look at the corner of Queen
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and Theatre Lane or. Queen and Theatre Lane Where the
[1:06:13]
tactile direction indicators were added Um, they actually Because of
[1:06:16]
where they're located And because the... Width of the sidewalk
[1:06:20]
is so narrow It almost takes up the whole sidewalk
[1:06:23]
itself And I'm delegating later on in this... Um... In
[1:06:28]
this meeting And we have some photos to share. Thank
[1:06:32]
you for this Vanessa What I was going to suggest
[1:06:34]
If you believe your item on the discussion about the
[1:06:37]
revitalization Project is tied to this Item You can ask
[1:06:42]
the habit brought up to be discussed this time Okay
[1:06:45]
I would like to end of the discussion We'll have
[1:06:48]
a motion The motion will be to receive this Presentation
[1:06:51]
Okay and to receive your discussion item. Yes please That
[1:06:55]
would be great. So I would like to ask. For
[1:07:00]
Ocean. Or we can. Not to get to see viewers
[1:07:05]
now I need to ask for a motion or no.
[1:07:09]
This. Is kind of part of the. But before we
[1:07:19]
do that Um... We have a couple People Online Let's
[1:07:22]
see what they want to discuss If it's tied to
[1:07:25]
Um... What Vanessa has to... Is item on the agenda
[1:07:29]
Then we'll wait until we bring the item forward. Before
[1:07:34]
our discussion happens So the two people online Would you
[1:07:38]
be... Do you want to ask the questions now Or
[1:07:40]
get Vanessa's Presentation And then ask the questions For both
[1:07:44]
Presentations at that point. Um I think Mina's best with
[1:07:48]
Vanessa Because I was going to bring it up as
[1:07:50]
well from The Downtown Core I do take Transit In
[1:07:54]
some place I had to go from the From getting
[1:07:56]
off to walking. I had Like a horrible experience. And
[1:08:02]
it's unfortunate of it being an afterthought But I have
[1:08:05]
to reiterate Many times when these things are discussed They're
[1:08:09]
only thinking of the mobility. And people who may have
[1:08:13]
You know partially blind or blind And there's many invisible
[1:08:16]
disabilities that are just as impacted For myself having seizures
[1:08:21]
So it's totally Inaccessible. Uh Thanks Michelle I was I
[1:08:28]
was merely asking if you would like to hold your
[1:08:30]
questions Both you and Sherry I see your hander up
[1:08:33]
And we can have Michelle Presenter Presentation at this moment
[1:08:36]
ahead of schedule And then all questions could be referred
[1:08:39]
to both of those Presentations If you guys are okay
[1:08:43]
with that Maybe put your hands down We'll go through
[1:08:46]
Vanessa's Presentation And then You'll be one and two Uh...
[1:08:49]
To go ahead and ask questions to either Presentation. Sherry
[1:08:55]
Is that okay with you as well? Um I just
[1:08:57]
wanted to say that I'm in supporting Uh and Vanessa
[1:09:00]
and having somebody come to discuss this further That's all
[1:09:03]
Thanks Sherry. Alright So at this point We're going to
[1:09:07]
allow Vanessa to go ahead and do our Presentation And
[1:09:09]
we'll take questions. Which is item 7. 1 And then
[1:09:15]
at that point we can have questions for both Presentations
[1:09:18]
And we'll go from there Thank you very much Vanessa
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Um. 7. 1 Discussion by Vanessa Tantelo Co - chair
[1:09:27]
Regarding Accessibility issues identified for the downtown Rivalization Project. Vanessa
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You have the floor. Great Thank you Nuno Um So
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as I previously discussed Um we have some serious issues
[1:09:41]
with the city of Brampton Downtown Revitalization Project Um... Where
[1:09:46]
the sidewalk was Um... I guess I guess not really
[1:09:51]
extended Um... But it was replaced with the new granite
[1:09:55]
stone Um... And in addition to that The parking lanes
[1:10:00]
were converted into What I'm been told are bike lanes
[1:10:04]
But then... On them to really identify them as such
[1:10:08]
Um... Or does it align to the city of Brampton
[1:10:13]
Bike path standards? Um... Possibly the reason for this Um...
[1:10:18]
Maybe they haven't... Put in the signage yet But... This
[1:10:24]
is how it looks today Um... Some of the photos
[1:10:28]
that we included were prior to the tactile Attention indicators
[1:10:34]
being installed Which are The truncated domes That you see
[1:10:36]
here Um... And as you can see The tactile tension
[1:10:41]
indicator comes right into the sidewalk Um... These are also
[1:10:45]
required to have a contrast As per the city of
[1:10:48]
Brampton Um... Accessibility Technical guidelines Um... And this is something
[1:10:54]
that we see It's... It's not anything new Um... You
[1:11:00]
know The sidewalk intersections throughout The neighbourhoods You see sort
[1:11:03]
of that... Um... Sort of rusted iron Um... Tactile Attention
[1:11:11]
indicators before you get to The intersection Um... But in
[1:11:14]
this case I guess I had an effort to keep
[1:11:18]
the material consistent There was no colour contrast So first
[1:11:22]
of all These were installed. Late Um... Without any sort
[1:11:27]
of Additional signage or safety Um... Until they were installed
[1:11:33]
Now that they have been installed It's clear that the
[1:11:36]
contrast is not there Um... You can also see in
[1:11:39]
this photo The tactile direction indicator That leads right into
[1:11:43]
the lamp post And as per Kate's Um... Presentation earlier
[1:11:50]
Um... She did indicate that these are to guide someone
[1:11:54]
Um... Who has... A vision disability Down a safe path
[1:11:59]
using their white cane Um This is a standard that
[1:12:02]
has been adopted by a whole community And... And to
[1:12:06]
use it for another use Um... Is quite frankly dangerous
[1:12:11]
Um... When I... Inquired with the Accessibility Team about this
[1:12:17]
Um... I was constantly put off Um... And it just...
[1:12:23]
It very much felt like you wanted me to go
[1:12:25]
away And I'm I'm not gonna go away Because I
[1:12:28]
feel very strongly about The safety of our citizens Um...
[1:12:34]
The last communication that I had from the city of
[1:12:37]
Brampton team Was that the consultant who designed it indicated
[1:12:41]
There was nothing telling them But they couldn't use it
[1:12:43]
for that purpose And That in my opinion That's a
[1:12:47]
very ignorant statement Um... Especially when we're dealing with something
[1:12:51]
as sensitive As accessibility Um... Again This is... This tactile
[1:12:59]
Uh... Direction indicator has been adopted by The Disability Community
[1:13:03]
to lead them down a safe path And I don't
[1:13:06]
know if anybody in this room could tell me that
[1:13:08]
this is a safe path When you're going right into
[1:13:11]
a lamppost. In addition to that Um... The sidewalks downtown
[1:13:18]
We're already narrow Um... And adding... I mean adding the
[1:13:24]
bike Lane didn't really improve the width of this Um...
[1:13:28]
It's definitely again Not meeting The width at certain points
[1:13:33]
to meet the city of Brampton Accessibility guidelines Um... In
[1:13:38]
addition to that Um... Just make it up Here. If
[1:13:48]
we could just scroll down The photos Please. So this
[1:13:52]
was before The Tactile Direction Decaters were installed Um... You
[1:13:56]
can see here that... There's almost no path. Um... Someone
[1:14:04]
who's walking on a sidewalk So someone using a mobility
[1:14:07]
device Would fall into the dirt Um... If they have
[1:14:11]
a guide dog with them They're not enough room There
[1:14:14]
Um... Possibly You are gonna put The Greats there But
[1:14:18]
as. As of The last time I visited They were
[1:14:21]
not installed If we could scroll down a bit more
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Please. Um This is also an incredibly dangerous situation I'm
[1:14:30]
not sure exactly what happened here Um... But it looks
[1:14:33]
like there was some artificial ramping done to bring The
[1:14:38]
sidewalk up to the existing Um... Business entrance And probably
[1:14:45]
was done with good intention But there's no tactile attention
[1:14:48]
indicator The drop - off Um... It's not You know
[1:14:52]
properly ramp to the width is incredibly narrow Um... This
[1:14:56]
is not Um... The proper way to install accessibility Especially
[1:15:02]
when this is a Multi - million dollar Project. Um...
[1:15:10]
What I had shared with The City of Brampton Accessibility
[1:15:13]
Team... Was tactile The description of tactile Direction indicators in
[1:15:19]
the Toronto Accessibility Design Guidelines And I also connected them
[1:15:22]
with the city of Ottawa Um... Accessibility team who are
[1:15:26]
piloting those tactile Um... Indicators to separate a bike path.
[1:15:34]
And a walking path. Scroll down please. And again just
[1:15:42]
reiterating So the image on the bottom Um the tactile
[1:15:48]
direction indicators are leading you right into the intersection Not
[1:15:51]
even on to the pedestrian path Um So this is
[1:15:55]
This is a significant issue As I mentioned When I
[1:15:58]
reached out The day after our last meeting That this
[1:16:02]
is a huge liability issue for the city... It's a
[1:16:06]
huge financial issue Because it needs to be resolved sooner
[1:16:09]
than later Um... Because more people are just gonna get
[1:16:12]
hurt Um... You know Thank you Michelle for sharing your
[1:16:16]
experience of walking downtown with the new sidewalks Um but
[1:16:21]
this is incredibly disappointing And this is not how a
[1:16:26]
leader and accessibility should be Um... You know putting their
[1:16:30]
best foot forward And I'm very disappointed that... Um... As
[1:16:34]
far as I understand And I've been on this committee
[1:16:36]
for the last two and a half years We were
[1:16:38]
not consulted Um... We're always very happy to review things
[1:16:44]
I have always been very supportive of The Accessibility Team
[1:16:48]
to review things One asked And I just... I Feel
[1:16:54]
like it's a bit of a farce to be honest
[1:16:57]
And... It's very disappointing That... Instead of working together Um...
[1:17:05]
Improve accessibility in Brampton It feels like things are Um...
[1:17:11]
Not being brought to the committee for specific reasons That
[1:17:15]
I'm unclear of. Um... And... At this point I will
[1:17:21]
be Contacting the ministry about The frustration that I've been
[1:17:25]
facing on this committee over the last two and a
[1:17:28]
half years Because this is not The first time Accessibility
[1:17:31]
features have been... Not installed correctly And... Frankly I'm very
[1:17:39]
frustrated to sit on this committee and have my hands
[1:17:43]
completely tied. Because I'm a volunteer. Thank you. Thank you
[1:17:52]
for your presentation Uh... At this point will allow questions
[1:17:58]
for both Presentations of 5. 1 and 7 Sorry And
[1:18:04]
7. 1 Uh They're close together And so if anybody
[1:18:08]
has a question Uh... For either Presentation Uh... You can
[1:18:12]
raise your hand up now And ask those questions Thank
[1:18:14]
you. Frank will go ahead. Thank you Um... That's a
[1:18:22]
very disturbing Uh... Sion going on I'm just wondering if
[1:18:26]
maybe Perhaps. Uh... The accessibility team could explain Um... A
[1:18:34]
little bit more detail about Um... What the standards are.
[1:18:39]
Been developed over the years Because Uh... As I look
[1:18:43]
at this I'm thinking This is a strange Situation. Um...
[1:18:49]
And even though I don't necessarily have him Brenton anymore
[1:18:53]
Uh... It's very concerning So I just want to double
[1:18:55]
check With what's been done And how... How it's been
[1:18:59]
implemented Thank you. Uh... Go ahead Sorry Legends Late of
[1:19:08]
services You have the floor Thank you Chair And through
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you My name's Genevieve I'm the city clerk. And uh...
[1:19:17]
This is an issue very important to all of us.
[1:19:20]
So thank you for your questions Before we get into...
[1:19:24]
Sorry Could you just speak to the mic that we
[1:19:25]
have for people online They might not be able to
[1:19:27]
hear you Thank you So I just want to thank
[1:19:30]
you all for your questions Good questions Very important concerns
[1:19:34]
We all understand The importance of having complete information And
[1:19:38]
you don't have it. And we don't either. Unfortunately we
[1:19:43]
don't have the project team members here today. I can't
[1:19:46]
speculate I can't answer for them I'm not the project
[1:19:49]
expert. There's very little about it outside of the accessibility
[1:19:54]
teams work that I could speak to It's not their
[1:19:57]
project. They comment on drawings as they're provided them. I
[1:20:02]
am here though to support this committee and the committee's
[1:20:05]
work. And our accessibility team. As you know this team
[1:20:13]
They work day in and day out with accessibility It
[1:20:15]
is the focus of their work every single day They're
[1:20:19]
deeply committed. As individuals and as a team. To identifying
[1:20:24]
barriers Removing barriers raising awareness and advancing accessibility across our
[1:20:30]
city For everybody. And I want to assure you that
[1:20:33]
this commitment remains unwavering. It is unwavering from this team.
[1:20:41]
Um... And I'm proud to be part of this team.
[1:20:44]
I don't have all of the answers. I don't have
[1:20:48]
The answers you're looking for today at all. But what
[1:20:51]
I can do is ensure you that your questions Your
[1:20:54]
concerns are brought back to the appropriate project team We
[1:20:57]
are committed as a team to obtaining The Information that
[1:21:00]
you need to work through these questions. Both thoughtfully and
[1:21:05]
thoroughly. Don't know what the answer is going to be
[1:21:09]
I don't know what the fixes can be We all
[1:21:11]
see the pictures. Um... There needs to be a great
[1:21:16]
deal more conversation. And that's what we can commit to
[1:21:22]
today That's what I can commit to And I appreciate
[1:21:24]
your advocacy I appreciate the persistence on these matters It
[1:21:28]
is important But I want you to know we share
[1:21:30]
the same goal. We share the same goal of making
[1:21:33]
our community Accessible and inclusive And I will do my
[1:21:37]
best. To ensure that your feedback That feedback is received
[1:21:42]
And considered by the project team. And unfortunately That's all
[1:21:47]
I can promise for today Jenevieve With all due respect
[1:21:51]
Um I don't believe that The best has been done
[1:21:54]
Because I've been flagging this since the end of May
[1:21:57]
And every response I've gotten back when I followed up
[1:21:59]
I've either been ghosted Or I've been told Oh we're
[1:22:04]
trying to get a hold of the project team Oh
[1:22:07]
The consultant said this If you were that committed to
[1:22:11]
accessibility You would not pass along Um... The staff has
[1:22:17]
answered The issue to the best of the ability. Um...
[1:22:21]
Anything you say here now There was we have no
[1:22:24]
response Well Chandra You were copied on the email as
[1:22:26]
well And Suel has the city clerk And the accessibility
[1:22:29]
stuff So they are aware Alright so But everything has
[1:22:31]
been seven already So at this point There's no reason
[1:22:35]
for you to I disagree Chandra Because their last Genovieves
[1:22:39]
last response Was that the consultant said there was nothing
[1:22:44]
Saying that they couldn't use those for that. Sorry. We
[1:22:49]
are going to turn off the. Mic. If. You exist.
[1:22:54]
Je. We are. They stop by this one. That's why
[1:22:58]
the city Club. Is here. To. Clarify Corruptions been. Happening.
[1:23:03]
This. Has been brought. The issues have been brought to
[1:23:08]
the planning department And I believe to the project team
[1:23:12]
as well. Chandra I would like to be noted in
[1:23:17]
a minute I would just like to disagree with that
[1:23:20]
Because I was told in that correspondence that you were
[1:23:23]
going to have somebody come to the meeting tonight. From
[1:23:28]
the Project Team. So through your chair. We were expecting
[1:23:33]
somebody from the Project Team to join us tonight They
[1:23:35]
were not able to attend I can't speak for them.
[1:23:38]
Okay I can't speak to the project itself Or why
[1:23:42]
it is at the position it's out I appreciate this
[1:23:46]
is frustrating Particularly when the outstanding questions. I didn't put
[1:23:51]
together a response from the consultant That came directly from
[1:23:54]
the Project Team. And... I believe they felt they responded.
[1:24:02]
The best they could with the information they had But
[1:24:05]
at this point really I'm unable to provide any further
[1:24:09]
answers I can't answer on their behalf And unless there's
[1:24:13]
a new question I can assist with Um... I've responded
[1:24:16]
as much as I'm able So I would just like
[1:24:18]
the minutes to reflect that I've spent the last three
[1:24:20]
months trying to get information from This team. It's not
[1:24:26]
a last - minute item that was added to the
[1:24:28]
agenda I've been flagging it since The day before The
[1:24:32]
day after the last meeting And that's all I'll say
[1:24:35]
about it Um, moving forward Um... I would like to
[1:24:37]
ask that Um... The revitalization team is at The next
[1:24:41]
meeting And that... I would recommend that The Accessibility Team
[1:24:46]
Conduct a full audit of what's been installed. Not just
[1:24:51]
the tactile Direction indicators But the clear widths The contrast
[1:24:55]
of the tactile Um... Attention indicators... And the placement of...
[1:25:04]
Planters. Other streetscape items. If I may. Uh Frank Just...
[1:25:12]
You think you mean Maybe what I would like to
[1:25:15]
just add to this point I mean I understand what
[1:25:17]
Chandra is saying I understand But finesse is saying Uh
[1:25:20]
My point of view to this is Whatever The Oversight
[1:25:23]
Whatever happened And I believe There is something here that
[1:25:26]
needs to be addressed Uh I don't believe that... The
[1:25:29]
people in the room are the right people to address
[1:25:31]
it I think that's become quite clear Um again We
[1:25:35]
want to people from an accessibility point of view to
[1:25:38]
be able to enjoy What has been put down and
[1:25:41]
make sure that it is put down properly so people
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are safe Um. Again From a chair's point of view
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I would love to see if we could have somebody
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come in from the team Uh, I think it's been
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well noted Um I know we have a couple of
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hands for questions on either one of these Presentations But
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yeah I really like going backwards I'm not trying to
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do that Uh... I know that The Accessible team Uh...
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This is my second term Serving on this committee Um...
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And so... Thank you for your work Uh... I mean
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again It could be that we having an issue that
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needs to be Resolved And I think with time It
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can be done Um... But I would like to allow
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for Franco But before Franco Michelle You had you end
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up first for Question or comment Yeah. I guess like
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You know you mentioned Um There's no reason for me
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to really share everything Because I'm very grateful that Vanessa
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had this with even pictures Because I was taking notes
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while I was in that area Downtown Also even in
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other locations Where they seem to be doing construction within
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Brand I don't know if it's because of The water
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main or other things But I know for me When
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I had to take Transit The bus literally had to
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stop And then I had to literally stand in the
[1:26:59]
middle of the road For The bus to stop And
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I was so nervous because seizures can take place at
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any time And I could have fallen Ray into the
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road We have there being no signs at all Um.
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And since this project team has not been able to
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attend Um... I want to know We've been able to
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share the concerns As Vanessa has said from a while
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ago How would they be held accountable Like are there
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any audits taking place regarding legislation when these things are
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in fruition. Because that's partly what legislation is doing audits
[1:27:36]
And then therefore them being held accountable and actually Then
[1:27:40]
looking it afterthought. So I just want to put that
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forward It's kind of like a practical standard. Of actually
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doing audits. While it's in process Then wait until it's
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at the very end Or even at the beginning When
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they may send us Actually... They're proposals So I have
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to say. Thank you very much again Vanessa for what
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you shared. Thanks Michelle Thank you Michelle. Go ahead. Thank
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you Through you chair. Good questions as well. The audit
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process or anodit process is beyond the scope of this
[1:28:17]
team Beyond The Authority But it is something that I
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will definitely raise with The senior leadership team And see
[1:28:25]
what can be done about that I think that's Really
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valuable information to take back for their consideration. Thank you.
[1:28:33]
Thank you And one other question I have is Um...
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In the interim How are you going to ensure that
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residents are staying safe. Until this can be dealt with.
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Three Sorry Through you chair Thank you for NASA I
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appreciate everything you're saying Uh more than you know. And
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in the interim. Again this team isn't the team that's
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going to be putting the interim fixes in or this
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signage or the extra pathways or whatever it takes to
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keep people safe But it's serious concerns All I can
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do is take it back and stress the urgency. That
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long before the project is done Long before any final
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fixes are done We need something right now. Right now
[1:29:21]
to keep people safe. And I will stress it with
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it as much urgency as I possibly can That's all
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I can promise you tonight. Thank you Jenove I appreciate
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it. Frank Go ahead. So this being my third Uhm
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I know that the accessibility team has worked extremely hard
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over the years Um... So I'm going to suggest that
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maybe we have Some of us actually Uh... Do a
[1:29:54]
walking Uh... Audit with The City Staff so that we
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can point out the deficiencies or Things that have been
[1:30:06]
left behind for whatever the reason And try to find
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a more suitable calm approach to it That's just my
[1:30:17]
opinion Thanks. Thank you Franco Michelle Go ahead. Yeah I
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want to add to that when I was mentioning auditing
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Make sure people disabilities are part of that audit team.
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And I don't mean just one type of disability Both
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invisible and invisible Then just following some type of checklist.
[1:30:39]
I think it's important that the audit is done Inclusively
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with people with disabilities who can call them out of
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what the issues are. Thank You. Do we have any
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other questions from either Presentation Uh 5. 2 or 7.
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1. Seeing none do I have a motion. To receive
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items 5. 2 and 7. 1 at this time. Franka
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Spadafora here I will bring the motion forward Thank you.
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Thank you so much and you post. C. None motion
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carries both motions 5. 2 from a road at Chowdry
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Transportation Policy Planner regarding streets Complete Street start standards update
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Apologise And also from 7. 1 Discussion by Vanessa Tantalo
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co - chair regarding accessibility issues identified for the downtown
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Revitalization Project. Thank you Moving along. Uh Item number 6
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6. 1 Municipality Accessibility plan A report by Sylvia Hangham
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Accessibility coordinator Cities Clerk's Office regarding 2027 2031 Multi -
[1:31:56]
year Accessibility Plan Draft recommendations resulting for public consultation. Thank
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you Sylvia You have the floor. You the chair Um
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this report is draft recommendations for the upcoming Uh Multi
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- year accessibility plan Which is a four - year
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plan from 2027 to 2031 Um... Attached to the report
[1:32:27]
There is... A list of draft recommendations that we would
[1:32:32]
like this committee to review and to provide feedback on
[1:32:38]
and also to include any other Um... recommendations for the
[1:32:43]
next upcoming plan. So the current 2022 to 2026 Multi
[1:32:51]
- air Accessibility plan is done by the end of
[1:32:55]
this year. Um... The city is required to update and
[1:32:58]
review its Multi - year accessibility plan at least every
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five years So that's what we're doing Um... Since the
[1:33:07]
beginning of this year. Um... The plan identifies accessibility initiatives
[1:33:13]
and outlines the steps The city will take to continue
[1:33:17]
to prevent and remove barriers to accessibilities in our program
[1:33:21]
services and facilities. This report Uh... Outlines draft recommendations for
[1:33:29]
the next Multi - air accessibility plan And it's based
[1:33:33]
on a public consultation phase that was done Um... At...
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The spring and summer of this year. So the steps
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for developing this plan included Uh... Review of the existing
[1:33:50]
plan Um... Deciding what should be carried over Um... This
[1:33:55]
was done in consultation with... The... The internal stakeholders. And
[1:34:03]
Others that were... had involvement in those initiatives. Um... The
[1:34:10]
consultation with the community was mainly done through an online
[1:34:15]
survey. This was... Done on an online survey available as
[1:34:25]
an online survey The survey was also Um... shared with
[1:34:29]
AAC. And Accessibility staff also Uh... We're able to meet
[1:34:37]
with... Residents that the people that were interested in having
[1:34:43]
one - on - one conversation. About the survey questions.
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So the Public Engagement for the The plan was launched
[1:34:57]
in May and it concluded in June. It included a
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number of topics Relating to city services The design of
[1:35:08]
Public Spaces. The City Buildings. Recreation Programs Transportation. Parks and
[1:35:16]
trails and employment Practices. We received over 100 survey responses.
[1:35:26]
And we were asked asking people what they thought the
[1:35:29]
city was doing well. With regard to accessibility and what
[1:35:34]
improvements can be made. So almost half of the responses
[1:35:38]
that we received were from people with disabilities The other
[1:35:42]
responses were from caregivers family and friends. And people working
[1:35:47]
with people with disabilities. So the draft recommendations for the
[1:35:53]
The Multi - Year Accessibility plan are included Uh... In
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attachment 1. To this report Um... They are potential action
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items. Um... Based on the feedback that we received from
[1:36:08]
the survey. Um... So this is what the residents came
[1:36:14]
up with. Uh... Ongoing Accessibility Initiatives from the existing plan
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will be carried forward to the new plan And you'll
[1:36:23]
see those in the final Uh... Report that we present.
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So at this point Um... We would like you to
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have a look at the recommendations And let us know
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what your thoughts are and what should be included in
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the next Four - year plan. Are there any questions.
[1:36:48]
Thank you for your Presentation Um Michelle you have your
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hand up If you have questions Go ahead. Um So
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is this something that We will be able to provide
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feedback. Um after this is the draft. So are we
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gonna get this copy Print It you know How are
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we gonna be able to provide feedback to this. Or
[1:37:12]
offer assistance in any way. So it can. Through the
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chair Uh... Michelle This could be Could be through a
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phone call through a Teams meeting via email Whichever way
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you want to share your feedback. We're open to that.
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And what about actually. Participating... In any of these items.
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Is this specifically for city of Brenton staff? No To
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be responsible for? No this is This is for residents
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Um The consultation is with city staff to put the
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recommendations in motion Right But the recommendations are developed by
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or come from a city of Brampton Community. So business
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As I was just getting clarification Because I know a
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couple of them I actually do So I was just
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wondering Like is there someone selected to do them already?
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Or like number one and three. Specifically. Like Is it
[1:38:27]
something that the team any of us can be involved
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in or is it just the city of Brampton staff
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per se. City staff will be implementing The recommendations is
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I was that you want to be involved in the
[1:38:42]
implementation. Yeah I wouldn't mind that. Just to and yeah.
[1:38:51]
Okay we can Yeah Just because like I have that
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experience and that awareness from an invisible discipline visible Disability
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perspective. And this is part of what I do That's
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part of workshops and being able to carry on with
[1:39:08]
the advocacy throughout of You know being a voice to
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the voice Listen belonging to part of the community I
[1:39:14]
just find it very important when tasks are to be
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done through the plans of including people disabilities in it
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So yeah. Okay we can see how we can involve
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you and what we come up with. Thank you.
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Go ahead Vanessa. Thanks Nuno Um Just a quick question
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Sylvia in regards to these Um recommendations Um... Is there
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going to be a timeline for when they're implemented? I
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just It's quite a long list And I'm just concerned
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that it might be more than I don't know how
[1:40:01]
long the This is a four year period So it's
[1:40:07]
fairly significant. In terms of the amount of work So
[1:40:12]
I just want to make sure that whatever we're putting
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forth is manageable In the term. Right. Um Sorry So
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what was the question you want Well okay So these
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are draft recommendations Um... They can be prioritized. If you
[1:40:35]
think you feel strongly about Certain ones You can let
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us know. Do you think should be prioritized. Um... And
[1:40:48]
then I'm just wondering in terms of the final plan
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Um... Will there be There will be an action Uh...
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Action items Um... Asigned to city staff. And those will
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have like implementation dates. And do we have in your
[1:41:10]
opinion Sylvia Do we have enough staff to implement this.
[1:41:15]
Uh This is throughout the city So I'm sure there's.
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There's plenty of People that will be involved in it.
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Okay Thank you. Go ahead Sorry I forget your name
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I apologise That's okay Thank you through you Chair I
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just wanted to comment on the draft plan That... Over
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the next. It would be a five - year plan
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But when do you need feedback from the committee Before
[1:41:50]
the plan is finalised? Um By the end of the
[1:41:53]
year. I Think before that Like by the end of
[1:41:58]
October Maybe so that we can put the plan So
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that's what we're looking at is feedback And actually Prioritizing
[1:42:05]
these... recommended action items would be really valuable feedback. For
[1:42:11]
the team to implement Uh... Or to add timelines to
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the plan There is a lot of action items Some
[1:42:19]
of them are small tasks And some of them are
[1:42:21]
quite large undertaking So having the committee's input to the
[1:42:25]
prioritization will make a tremendous improvement to the implementation of
[1:42:31]
all of them We do expect to achieve all of
[1:42:34]
these action items. And this is what the team will
[1:42:38]
be putting forth to all of staff and to the
[1:42:41]
senior management Council for it to be approved When Council
[1:42:45]
approves the final plan Um... That means it's marching orders
[1:42:50]
for staff. To start implementing. So in what order? Definitely
[1:42:55]
looking for your feedback on that. And I think if
[1:43:00]
the at any point with any of the implementation pieces
[1:43:03]
An opportunity to engage the committee. Absolutely Uh... We will
[1:43:08]
be doing that And I think Lessons learned That would
[1:43:10]
be top priority. Uh Thank you You actually answered my
[1:43:14]
question But thank you very much Franco Go ahead. Um
[1:43:17]
So my question is in the implementation process I know
[1:43:21]
that Uh... The city cleric when they hire new hires
[1:43:26]
They go through a training session I'm just wondering if
[1:43:30]
maybe It would be a good idea to potentially Uh...
[1:43:34]
Make people Go through the training of these recommendations Once
[1:43:39]
they are implemented Because I think it will make it
[1:43:41]
easier for all staff Not just The accessibility team But
[1:43:45]
everyone involved To have that I know I've participated in
[1:43:51]
a... In a simulation... Of what it's like to be
[1:43:55]
in a wheelchair What it's like to have cognitive disabilities
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And I think that might be a good way to
[1:44:00]
implement these recommendation Thanks. Alright, thank you very much for
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everybody Seeing no other questions Can I have a motion
[1:44:12]
to accept The... Report by Sylvia Ingham Accessibility coordinator City
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Clerk's office regarding the 2027 2031 Multi - year Accessibility
[1:44:23]
Plan Draft recommendations resulting from public consultation be received. Renko
[1:44:32]
here I will set the motion through Thank You Franco
[1:44:36]
Any opposed. Seeing noun motion is carry 7. 1 has
[1:44:44]
already been Delt with. Do we have any correspondence. No
[1:44:51]
correspondence And I can see that there's no Information items
[1:44:55]
as well. Um Item number 10 Question period pertaining to
[1:45:00]
matters on the agenda only. Do we have anybody with
[1:45:05]
any questions regarding The Agenda. Seeing None We'll move on
[1:45:11]
to item 11 Which is the public question period. And
[1:45:17]
seeing none Uh We'll move to item number 12 Age
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Adjournment Can I have a motion to adjourn. Otion to
[1:45:28]
adjourn That's a tantalo. Thank you very much This meeting
[1:45:33]
is now journed.