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Okay. Um,
we'll do the roll call for us, please.
[1:14]
» Fish
>> here.
[1:15]
» Johnson.
>> Cole.
[1:20]
» He's not here.
>> Okay. Uh, Lawrence.
[1:23]
» Uh, Maro
>> here.
[1:25]
» Mayor Buck
>> here. So, we have a quorum.
[1:30]
Uh you have the agenda. Any additions or
corrections on the agenda?
[1:34]
» Then I'll look for a motion to approve.
>> Motion and a second to approve the
[1:38]
agenda. All in favor say I.
>> Both same sign. Motion carries. We have
[1:44]
the minutes from the February 17
uh meeting.
[1:50]
Um so we'll look for
a motion on the minutes.
[1:56]
» Second. Motion on a second to approve
the minutes. All in favor say I.
[2:00]
» Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries.
Uh we've got the claims on pages 10 and
[2:06]
11. Had a chance to look them over. Um
any questions,
[2:14]
comments? Otherwise, I'll look for a
motion.
[2:17]
» Second.
>> Motion a second to approve the claims.
[2:20]
All in favor say I.
>> Post same sign. Motion carries. got the
[2:26]
consent calendar in front of you. We had
uh wage adjustments, a couple of them
[2:31]
for Richard and and Bower, and we've got
a tax abatement.
[2:36]
» One change, we can we can pull the one
for Anderson offend.
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» Okay.
[2:49]
» Just make a motion to approve the
consent with
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Anderson's weight.
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Motion a second. All in favor say I.
>> Post same sign. Motion carries.
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And visitors and timed items. This is an
opportunity for anyone that would like
[3:18]
to visit with the council on any
particular issue whether it's on the
[3:21]
agenda or not on the agenda. We ask that
you come up and give us your name and
[3:26]
address. If it's something that's on the
agenda, you might want to wait until
[3:28]
then, but you're welcome to come now and
uh let us know what your thoughts are.
[3:34]
If you have some
Tim, you look like you're you're good.
[3:39]
Okay. Save.
All right. Seeing none, then we'll move
[3:44]
on.
[3:47]
Public hearing. Uh it's the first
reading of ordinance 749
[3:53]
um establishing interstate signage
overlay district.
[3:58]
» So this is something planning and zoning
has worked on for quite a while. It
[4:02]
started back in our talk of when Le
Schwab and Quickstar were looking for
[4:06]
variances.
That got them thinking that's kind of
[4:11]
the situation for a lot of the
properties down in Brandon 90 Plaza.
[4:14]
It's about 30 feet below kind of the
other side of the road. So, do they all
[4:19]
have a problem? If so, there's it's a
broader problem. Maybe we should address
[4:23]
it directly. So,
>> this is So, they propose an overlay
[4:27]
district. Rather than adding a new
zoning district, it just adds new or
[4:31]
different regulations on top of our
existing general business. It also
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recognizes that Sunshine and Holly
Boulevard and other places in town are
[4:41]
different than Brandon 90, so treat them
differently. So, this allows a sign up
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to 90 ft in height. Once you
you get there,
[4:55]
you zero to 50, you can have a 200
square foot sign. If you can go above
[5:01]
that, you can have one above that, but
half of it has to be above 50 feet in
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height if you go up to 90. So then they
also have some things in there about
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separation not only from other signs but
from residential districts to try to
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protect those neighbors. So it exists
conceptually within 1400 ft on each side
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of I90 to stretch it out. So not just 90
butch
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to account for the interate traffic.
>> This was a do pass recommendation for
[5:29]
planning and zoning.
>> Good work on the part of planning and
[5:31]
zoning. I think this is what we need to
do.
[5:33]
And remind me real quick, is this
similar to what we already passed for
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Quickstars? They're they're going to be
in compliance with this, right? Is that
[5:41]
» the Quickstar sign will be a little bit
larger, but it I think theirs was 500ish
[5:48]
something. This allows up to 400. So
they'll be a little larger, but it it's
[5:54]
better than what we have
moving in the right direction, allowing
[5:58]
more signs.
So Patrick, I think this is a great
[6:03]
plan, but the question is with that
residential that is kind of over there
[6:06]
and these signs are going to be taller,
right? Are there any light restrictions
[6:10]
that might impact or is that already
built into the ordinance?
[6:14]
» So we did not directly address lights,
but kind of our general landscaping
[6:20]
light policy is don't be a jerk. Don't
point them directly at your neighbor.
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It's kind of our broad policy on that.
This does not specifically address
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Okay.
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» Motion a second to approve uh the first
reading of 749.
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Any other discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
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» I.
>> Oppos. Same sign. Motion carries.
[6:50]
Thanks. Good job.
Uh, the Brandon Development Foundation
[6:55]
wetland bank update.
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» What would you like to know?
[7:16]
» Tell us where we're at. Tell us where
we're at.
[7:19]
» Okay. So, first of all, do you know what
we're doing with the Wetland Bank?
[7:22]
» Okay. So, we have recently also um
acquired some more land to expand our
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offering a little bit more uh to the
north. Um I do believe when it's all
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said and done, initially we have a trail
planned for about two miles or so that
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could be up there. Probably what four or
five acres left for a park of some sort.
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So,
Yep. We have to go to them next. But
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yes,
that is what we've been working on.
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» So, one of the questions um will be
saving wetland for our local
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» Yep.
>> people.
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» That's our plan.
>> Yeah. In fact, there is a development
[8:07]
currently in Brandon that is being
redesigned because they didn't have
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wetland bankrupt. So, yes, it's
necessary. Tim, are we going to specify
[8:18]
in theouou how many credits we're going
to save back for our area? Have we
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talked about that?
>> No.
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» Okay.
>> Uh, not specific.
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» Okay.
>> Okay.
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» Yeah. Go ahead. This is This is our I'm
the one that is helping with designing
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of the bank. I'm an environmental
specialist that I make. So I am helping
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them approve this through the core of
engineers and state agencies. The
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credits question is we know that it's
credits will be available for the entire
[8:54]
service area which is the lower rivered
but the board has alreadyated
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that there will be a percentage of the
credits that will be set back for local
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brand. We don't know how many credits
that will be because we don't have the
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design yet. We don't know how many
credits that will be. So that will be
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set once we know details of exact
credits that are
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at that time.
>> Okay.
[9:21]
» The idea is to support
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and how often how fast
ide.
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» So, Anthony, um, so this this property
if if we didn't develop this wetland
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bank, [clears throat] my understanding
is it would need to be mitigated anyway,
[10:03]
Carrie or Anthony,
>> because it's got on the map there
[10:10]
already.
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If you go to that northwest corner,
that's
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» So Carrie, we'd have to spend money as a
city to mitigate this if we don't do
[11:01]
something. Yes, I've done the site work
and we've done the site and the channel
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is
so attra
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to make sure that you know portions of
that in the south
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have been dug out for additional water
coming from
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both sides of it and with future
development coming into that area the
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size of that channel probably increase
so it'll flush through the system faster
[11:35]
what that's
going to cut through and it's going to
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flush the system and not hold the water
like it's supposed to in that area and
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with the addition
future res.
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So this would
otherwise there would have to be some
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sort of plan put in place to improve
that.
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» So we'd have to spend some money on it.
So, uh, I understand that there's going
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to be some like a neighborhood meeting
for the residents in that area. I think
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that's something important to note for
them that, you know, we're trying to
[12:19]
improve this area, not so they don't
have flooding issues.
[12:22]
» Yep. We already had health meeting and
received some of their comments and
[12:25]
inputs and are going to when we get to
the design phase of this complet
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so that they can see
that everybody
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» and the the benefit by having the
development foundation do it is they are
[13:04]
not tied to the bid process. So when
they sell those wet line credits, they
[13:08]
don't have to follow necessarily our
rules. So I it's a win-win in my mind. I
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don't see any downside.
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You had a public meeting. Was there
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» what was what was the push back if any?
Bottom line
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» in the southern portion
>> looking.
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So, I appreciate you guys taking this
on. So, thank you.
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» Yeah, good job.
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» We believe so.
>> I believe so, too.
[14:34]
» Okay. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for
Thanks for your work.
[14:39]
All right. That's want to
>> do. So, do we need to do anything? So,
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you just wanted confirmation that we
support you.
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» Yeah.
>> Before you buy land,
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» they're looking at buying some land. So,
I thought bring them in. Let's get an
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update and then I'll have Lisa start
working on
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the development foundation.
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Okay,
we don't have any old business, so we'll
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move to standing committee reports.
>> Uh the golf course, we have uh some more
[15:21]
seasonal hires.
>> Yep. Got some more.
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» What do you have a life?
[laughter]
[15:32]
» What's up with that?
Seasonal hires.
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» Got all the help you need now.
>> Okay.
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» Move to approve.
>> Second.
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» Motion a second to approve the seasonal
hires for the golf course. Any
[15:49]
discussion?
All in favor say I.
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» Both same sign. Motion carries. Uh parks
and wreck. You got the work report on
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page 25. Uh nothing there tonight to uh
to discuss
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uh public safety.
You've got the excuse [clears throat]
[16:06]
me, the fire department report
and we have first reading of ordinance
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750 amending
uh the plumbing code on pages 27 through
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54.
>> It was some nice read. It was great
[16:21]
reading.
>> So we last adopted the 2018 uniform
[16:26]
plumbing code without amendments in
2019. So what we kind of do is we wait
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for Sou Falls to do all the heavy
lifting. We take all the regional
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amendments they make just because the
contractors learn one thing, we want to
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keep it relatively consistent for them.
So, they've adopted the 2024 uniform
[16:43]
plumbing code with a couple of
amendments. So, we're looking to follow
[16:47]
suit. We looked at it that we didn't
make a lot of changes. The one we did is
[16:51]
we don't really have a board of plumbing
appeals just because I know I wouldn't
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feel qualified to say anything about
that. So, basically, if they have an
[17:00]
issue with it, take us to court.
Um, we don't really do plan review fees.
[17:06]
We have plumbing inspection fees, but we
don't charge for plan review. So, that
[17:10]
was a big chunk of Sou Falls and stuff
taken out. As well as we don't use the
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city of Sou Falls cross connection
control manual. So, we defaulted to the
[17:20]
default text rather than
reference something we don't have. So,
[17:25]
th those are kind of the big changes. So
Dale, our plumbing inspector, would like
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us to be up to date with Z Falls. And so
this allows us to do that.
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» All right.
>> Is there anything controversial?
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» I I probably wouldn't really know it if
I saw it.
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» But other probably similar towns around
Sou Falls are kind of following suit. I
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would I would imagine
>> it does. You take the soup ball stuff,
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you look at it and you make your minor
changes like we did because we don't
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have certain things and but for the most
part it's designed to keep it level for
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all the contractors. So you can do work
in Sou Falls, you can do work here, you
[18:00]
can do work in Hartford, you can do work
in Harrisburg and roughly know kind of
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everything.
>> That's kind of what we did with our fees
[18:06]
a few months ago. So I would move to
approve.
[18:11]
» Motion a second to approve the first
reading of uh ordinance 750.
[18:16]
All in favor say I. I.
>> Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Now
[18:21]
we have quotes to install uh and
relocate
[18:25]
warning sirens.
[18:32]
» Yeah, we have seven sirens right now.
[18:39]
» Okay.
>> All right.
[18:44]
» Okay. Okay, I'll look for a motion on
that.
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» Move to approve.
>> Motion a second.
[18:50]
» Second.
>> Okay, a motion, a second to approve the
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quote.
>> All in favor say I.
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» I.
>> Post the same sign.
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» Motion carries. And we have an intern.
>> Yes. The I can't remember if it was last
[19:03]
meeting or the meeting before that when
we had our high school intern. Um and so
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we do have a college intern for the
spring semester.
[19:12]
» Have that in front of you.
We have any questions?
[19:18]
» USF individuals going to school for law
enforcement.
[19:21]
» How long do these internships usually
last?
[19:23]
» It depends if they're doing it for
credit or if they're just doing it for
[19:28]
experience. This one for colleges I
believe for credit. So it'sund
[19:34]
I I can't remember. I have it written
down is how I can't remember though. But
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there's so many hours they have to
fulfill for the college. So they get
[19:40]
credit for it.
We're not going to start calling you
[19:42]
professor, are we?
>> You could.
[19:46]
» I don't know of what, but you could.
[laughter]
[19:51]
» I'm glad. It's It's a good thing. It's a
It's a good thing that they're want to
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come out here.
>> Perfect.
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» So, we need a motion on that.
>> Second.
[20:03]
» Motion second to approve. All in favor
say I.
[20:05]
» I.
>> Motion carries. Good job, Jamie.
[20:10]
In regards to the item that was stricken
earlier, um unfortunately our newest
[20:16]
officer, although he was doing extremely
well, has decided law enforcement in
[20:20]
general is probably not the uh career he
wants to stay in. So after having a
[20:25]
conversation with him this morning, it's
unfortunate. Um but I certainly
[20:29]
understand his uh his reasoning. So um
yeah, unfortunately we will be
[20:36]
advertising to fill that post. Well,
you've been getting a lot of applicants
[20:40]
the last time we had to do it. So,
>> yeah. Yeah. Applicants luckily for
[20:44]
hasn't been a concern. So, it is but it
is unfortunate.
[20:47]
» Um, is there an do we have an
eligibility list from the last hire that
[20:51]
we did?
>> Um, we typically every time we do we
[20:54]
have an eligibility list. It kind of
depends on the the time lapse that goes
[20:58]
and we usually confer with the city
attorney as to how long we should keep
[21:02]
that. So, um we are planning on posting
for this time. Sometimes a lot of times
[21:07]
you know of we might they might be
second or third in line for us but by
[21:10]
the time it comes back around they've
been hired by another agency. So a lot
[21:13]
of times they're not available even if
he wanted to. So they're they're usually
[21:17]
a a real shortterm kind of eligibility
list.
[21:20]
» So we did send him to the academy and he
decided after that that he was not
[21:25]
» yes
>> going to pursue this.
[21:28]
» He actually I mean because of the timing
with the academy he was actually he had
[21:31]
went through the entire field training
before he even went to the academy. So
[21:34]
he just had to do some ride outs after
the academy. But yeah, so it was
[21:37]
unexpected, but for personal reasons, he
has decided to
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step away.
>> It happens.
[21:45]
» All right. Do we need to approve a
resation or anything?
[21:49]
» Not yet.
>> Not yet. Okay.
[21:52]
» All right. We'll move on to streets.
We've got the uh public work report on
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page 84
and uh slurry field project bids. N
[22:03]
resolution yet?
>> Got a couple of things.
[22:08]
» Oh, I'm sorry.
>> Yes, the resolution
[22:13]
02-26.
>> Yeah, we have a resolution authorizing
[22:16]
certain staff members to sign plats.
We're adding the director of engineering
[22:22]
services as an authorized signature
agent for the city engineer and the road
[22:27]
authority.
Any
[22:31]
questions, comments?
>> Move to approve.
[22:34]
» Motion, second to approve. All in favor
say I.
[22:37]
» Post same sign. Motion carries. And
request for the council to support
[22:44]
commercial residential
formula page 73 to 82. What's that?
[22:50]
» There's there's a letter from Nick Van
Overshield. I think everybody's got it.
[22:54]
uh regarding the discretionary formula
for new commercial residential
[22:58]
construction which is anything over four
units. Uh a few years ago originally
[23:04]
this uh we have a discretionary formula
for commercial industrial was adopted
[23:10]
quite a while ago that used to include
commercial resided
[23:18]
split that up separate categories
no longer have for commercial
[23:24]
residential specific.
So Nick Ben Overshield, the the
[23:28]
developer
for Chestnut Ridge
[23:33]
found out from the county um that he's
already starting building some some town
[23:39]
homes that are not going to qualify for
the discretion.
[23:44]
I've spoken with Chris Li, the director
of equalization of Min County. Anything
[23:49]
that's in the process of being built or
built already would not qualify. We
[23:52]
can't retroactively go back and those
city council wants to adopt some type of
[24:00]
discretionary future
[24:06]
call and find out if the council adopts
it inif
[24:15]
our current discretionary formula it's
only 20% first year%
[24:23]
For commercial residential it is 25 25
50 7575
[24:30]
and then it goes to 100. So they don't
get a full zove
[24:45]
qualify for it. Second one is
affordable housing. So it's based upon
[24:54]
the state. So
[24:59]
that qualify for that.
And the other one is redevelopment
[25:04]
district.
[25:08]
So no action needed at this point in
time. I talked with Nick this morning.
[25:13]
He understands where we're at.
[25:17]
Okay.
>> Do you feel
[25:20]
» Brian, I'm sorry. Sorry. But Brian,
would this So, this is specifically
[25:24]
being asked for Nick's development over
there on the bridge, right? Would this
[25:29]
apply to any other existing
developments, say like over in Aspen
[25:33]
Ridge where they built those?
>> It would not already built.
[25:36]
» So, it's only new.
>> Only only new after the resolution.
[25:42]
» Thank you. So when it was all combined
before the state split it out, do you
[25:48]
think we ever did it
>> for residential? Who knows? Huh?
[25:55]
» Trying to think. You know, there hasn't
been much any
[26:00]
built historically
last two or three or four years
[26:05]
» and nobody else picked up on it.
[26:09]
Do you believe this might help with, you
know, future development in Brandon
[26:15]
that, you know, if we adopted something
like this, this might help? I mean, I
[26:19]
know they're these style of homes are
becoming very, very popular, you know.
[26:23]
» Correct. And you know, like I said, up
until the last two or three years,
[26:34]
you know, if you go to falls, there's a
ton of them built all over.
[26:40]
You know, as a developer, it would
certainly help with cash flow.
[26:45]
It may spur additional towns or condo
development. I don't know. down.
[27:04]
So
I don't I don't have a real good answer.
[27:07]
I don't know.
[27:19]
» The only way it could hurt is if they
would have been built anyway,
[27:22]
» right?
>> So, I you know, I have a lot of
[27:25]
confidence in your judgment. So, why
don't you look into it for us?
[27:29]
» We'll take a look at
[27:34]
Okay.
All right.
[27:38]
We'll move on
uh resolution 03-26
[27:44]
compensating compensating compensation
levels for planning and zoning
[27:48]
commission.
>> I had some recent conversations with
[27:50]
council uh since zoning seems to be
doing a heck of a lot of work. There's
[27:56]
an opinion
feeling that they should currently get
[28:01]
$75 a meeting. Maybe bump that up
meeting
[28:08]
They do a lot of work. They really do.
And they they they have a lot of long
[28:12]
meetings. I know that. And so
>> they don't do it for the money, but I
[28:16]
think it's a good sign of goodwill.
Thank you from us. Yes.
[28:25]
» Exactly. I had not thought about that.
Had not thought about that.
[28:29]
» When was the last time they had an
increase in their per? We bumped we
[28:33]
bumped all the boards and commissions up
uh was it two years ago 75 from I think
[28:38]
it was 50. So a couple years ago we went
to 75
[28:42]
» but I look at park board and what zone
planning and zoning does and there's no
[28:47]
comparison. So they need to they need to
be more
[28:51]
» would if we pass this would this be
start right away this start
[28:56]
» next meeting. So, how about budget-wise?
We're
[28:58]
» I [clears throat] mean, this kind of
money is not going to be a
[29:01]
» No, I mean it's not a huge amount. It's
just per
[29:07]
when we do the budget, we figure $75 for
two meetings a month for everybody.
[29:13]
» It's not a big deal.
>> Financially, it's a Thank you.
[29:20]
» I would
motion a second to approve. All in favor
[29:25]
say I.
>> Both same sign. Motion carries.
[29:30]
Uh right now we can move on to page two.
Streets public works reports on page 84.
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We have a slurry seal bid. Tammy.
>> Yes. This is our annual slurry seal
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project. We participate in the city of
Sou Falls's project. Um they had over 20
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well they had 20 communities participate
this year and their total build bid was
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over $6 million. So our portion is just
under 329,000.
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The lowest bidder was Aztec which we've
had them before. They did a really good
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job for us last year. Um it is paid for
through the street maintenance fund and
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it is under budget.
All right.
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» A little less little less than that last
year then or were we kind of somewhat
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comparable you feel
>> as far as like the amount?
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» Yes.
>> Oh, we did less last year. So we did a
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little less than 200,000 I think.
>> Approve.
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» Motion a second to approve. All in favor
say I.
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» Same sign. Motion carries.
And back in the core area, 3B design
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contract,
Tammy.
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» Oh, it's actually 3A.
>> Excuse me. 3A. It says 3B here. 3A.
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» Okay.
>> This is the design contract with HDR.
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So, we designed this year and then built
next year
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» and this is on fourth street.
>> Yes. So, there is a map on page
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94.
So, you can see it's the south half of
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Fourth Avenue and Fifth Avenue, kind of
everything south of Elm Street all the
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way to Aspen.
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» Okay.
>> I move to approve Corey area phase 3A
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design contract with HDR Engineering.
>> Well, I want it on record to be
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straight. No.
>> Yep.
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» I'll second.
>> Motion a second to approve. All in favor
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say I.
>> Post same sign. Motion carries.
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» So we design it this year, build it next
year. Okay.
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» Okay. Any need for an executive session?
None that I know of. So
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take a motion to adjurnn and a second.
Second.
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» Motion a second to adjurnn. All in favor
say I. I. Both. Same sign. We are
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adjourned.