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I got seven. You guys all got seven.
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Okay.
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>> Good evening everyone and uh welcome and
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thank you for coming out on such a hot
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steamy evening. I'm going to break with
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tradition here just a little bit because
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I would like to uh make an introduction.
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Uh, Chief, can you come forward? And
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Officer Fontana,
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uh, this is our police chief, as you all
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know, but this lovely little lady
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walking with her is our newest police
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officer, uh, fresh out of the academy
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and
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here to uh, serve Brandon. I had the
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opportunity to meet her and and visit
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with her the other day, and I'm very, happy to have her on board.
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Um, I'll let the chief say anything
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else, but we're This is the first step
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of our rebuild. You are
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>> it
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to us from um
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and she is presently going through field
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training right now. She's attended the
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part-time academy of the police academy
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in Pittsford. And our hope is as soon as
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she's done with field training, she'll
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be on the road in a solo capacity. Um,
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and you'll be out seeing her patrolling
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the streets.
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» Thank you.
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>> Welcome.
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>> Very excited to be here.
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>> Very excited to have you.
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>> We're very excited to have you. Welcome.
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>> You want to get a picture, Steve?
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>> No. No. Steve is our uh owner and editor
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of our Brandon newspaper, and we would
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like to feature a picture of the two of
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you as our
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Good news that we get things rolling.
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Yeah, you don't want us in the history.
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>> You want to break the camera.
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» You know what? Stand just like that. We
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can see the
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All right.
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Awesome.
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>> Thank you.
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beautiful
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» and we really are happy to have you and
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I'm sure some of the other board members
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will stop in and visit with you at the
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uh office when you're around. So great.
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U now moving on. We are going to do the
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uh we've got full list of meetings here.
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So we're going to start with cannabis
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control.
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I move that we adopt the uh agenda
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first as
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» we have a motion and a second on the
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agenda. Reoccurring matter is to approve
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the minute from the May 26 cannabis
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meeting.
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>> Make a motion we approve those minutes.
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>> I'll second that.
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>> Motion and a second to approve cannabis
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minutes. All in favor?
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>> I opposed. No one. Item three, it's
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three applications for
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uh tier 2 and tier one. Uh they're all
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renewals.
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» That we consider items 3, A, B, and C
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under consent agenda.
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>> Second.
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>> Okay. Motion in a second to approve all
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three under consent. All in favor,
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please say I.
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>> I.
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Opposed. No one.
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>> Public comment or participation on
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cannabis.
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There's never any hurt on that.
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>> Motion to adjurnn cannabis.
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All in
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favor?
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>> I'll second that.
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>> Motion a second. All in favor?
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>> I. Okay.
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>> And we move on to liquor. cover all the
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sins in life this evening. Um the agenda
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>> I move to adopt the agenda for the
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liquor control commissioners as warned.
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>> I'll second
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>> motion in a second on the um agenda. All
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in favor say I.
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>> I.
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>> Opposed? No one. Reoccurring matters
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would be approval of the liquor minutes
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from June 23rd.
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Make a motion we approve those minutes.
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>> Second that.
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>> Motion in a second. On the minutes, all
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in favor say I.
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>> I. Oppos? No one.
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>> I move that we uh adopt a consent agenda
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for items three and four.
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» Go ahead. I'll second. We have a motion
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and a second for item three and four.
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Any discussion? None heard. All in
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favor? I
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>> I opposed. No one public comment on
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liquor.
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None.
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>> Motion to adjurnn liquor.
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>> Motion to adjurnn. Second.
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>> Second that.
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>> All in favor of joining liquor say I.
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>> I. I.
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>> Okay.
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And
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sewer commissioners report
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agenda.
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>> Come on. Someone else.
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>> I'll make a motion to adopt the agenda.
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I'll second it.
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>> Here we go. We have a motion and a
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second to adopt the agenda. All in favor
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say I.
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>> I.
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>> Reoccurring matters is the sewer
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commissioner's minutes from June 23rd.
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>> Make a motion to approve those minutes.
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>> Second.
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>> Roman.
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>> Okay. Motion and seconds to approve the
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minutes. All in favor of the minutes,
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please say I. I.
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>> I.
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And what we are here for is to consider
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purchase order for more root x root
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killer which is above the town manager's
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uh spending option and the price is
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right so we're buying it early.
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>> And this is last time too isn't it?
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Yeah.
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>> Is this a year supply?
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>> So with what we got in the previous
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fiscal year and this he believes it will
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be about about the year.
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Pleasure of the board.
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>> I move that we approve the purchase
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order uh 12405 for Routtex in the amount
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of $12,600.
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>> Second.
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>> Motion in a second. Any additional
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discussion?
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None at all. In favor of the motion to
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purchase $12,600
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of Rudex, please say I.
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No one. Public comment on sewer.
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None heard.
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>> Motion to adjurnn. Sewer. Second.
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>> Motion to adjurnn. All in favor?
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>> I I
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now we are up to the select board the
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agenda. First
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» I move to adopt the meeting agenda as
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» any addition.
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All in favor move adopt of the agenda as
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presented say I I
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>> I oppose no one collect board remarks. I
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would just remind everyone that we are
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here to do the business of the town. Um
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when speaking we need you to come
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forward and speak into the microphone so
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it can be heard and state your name and
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treat everyone with respect please and
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we will have a very happy meeting. It's
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a lengthy agenda, but I think mostly
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fairly straightforward items.
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So,
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>> anyone else have any other select board?
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>> One one quick one for me. Um,
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>> summer school's out. I've seen a ton and
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of kids riding without helmets,
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especially on the sidewalk, but all over
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the place. I've had brain surgery. You
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don't want it. Please, if you have kids,
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or if you are a kid who happens to be
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watching this, put on a helmet. Might
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save your life.
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I'll get off my soap box now.
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>> And it really doesn't take much of a to
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cause a traumatic brain injur.
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» Very good point. Uh reoccurring m um
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matters. We have select boards from June
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23rd, select July 7th and 11th.
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I hear the board.
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Um,
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I would ask a question. How is this new
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system working? Because I'm realizing we
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haven't identified ourselves at all this
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evening.
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>> So, it's okay. Um, I think that what
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we're going to end up with will be okay.
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I think as long as you're comfortable
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with um say the July 7th minutes, if you
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look at that, you have um at number one,
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you have who called the meeting to order
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and things of that nature. But when it
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gets into the discussion, it doesn't
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always attribute an individual statement
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to an individual speaker, but then when
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we get down to the motions, those were
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jotted down and so you know who made
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motions and seconds and the outcomes.
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So, if that's satisfactory to the board,
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I think it accomplishes what the open
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meeting law requires. Now,
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>> so you're jotting it down. We don't need
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to say should should we state our name
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when we're making a motion?
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>> No. Uh, I'm I'm jotting down who's
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making motions and seconds and vote
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outcomes and the machine is basically
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trying to capture the content of the
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discussion.
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>> Perfect.
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>> And
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excuse me. And if anyone needs further
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elaboration on the discussions, those
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are on volume.
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>> We have the recording. at the recording
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somewhat.
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>> Yep. Okay. So, we do have a motion and a
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second to approve the two select board
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um minutes.
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All in favor of those minutes, please
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say I.
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>> I.
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abstain on the seventh.
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>> You abstain on the seventh. You weren't
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there. Correct.
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>> Now, we get into the warrant. The reason
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there's two warrants is some are bills
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from the prior year, some are bills for
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this year.
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pleasure of the board.
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» So, I move to approve um warrant report
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63873 in the amount of $168,911.88.
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» I'll second that one. Okay.
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Uh questions?
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None. We have a motion and a second to
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approve the first warrant. All in favor,
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please say I.
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>> I.
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>> Opposed? No one.
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Second warrant.
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>> I move that we approve warrant report
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number 6387.
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Check. Any questions on
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all of
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you please say I
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» item four, town manager report.
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>> Thank you, Mr. chair, members of the
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board, members of the public. Um, my
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report was part of the packet. I do want
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to add a couple of things to it. Uh,
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one, about twothirds of the way down the
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front page, I I submitted the report
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without finishing the sentence about the
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town clock. Apologies for that. So, the
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clock works themselves are still an open
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issue with a knowledgeable local person.
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That's the person um who with his family
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has been taking care of the clock for a
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number of years. and that person's
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working with um an outside contractor
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that is able to perhaps fabricate the
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new gear or identify a source for the
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new gear. There's a broken gear up
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there. Um I do want to call attention to
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the near completion of the town hall
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roof reslating. That project is going
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very well. They did elect, as many of
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you will have noticed, they elected not
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to put slate over the eaves at the edges
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uh because of the Boeing and so they've
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put copper there. It won't be an extra
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cost to the town and it will act like as
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a snow pan would act on on your house
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roof.
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And the work on the Sanderson covered
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bridge did start today. Uh that repair
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work should go this week. And so Pearl
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Street will not be a through street from
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7:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. daily for the
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rest of the week while they're working
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on the bridge. Um there are three
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announcements to make about vacancies on
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town boards. If you're interested on
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serving, please submit a cover sheet and
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letter of interest to me. There's a a
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voting position on the energy committee
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that generally meets the first Monday at
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4:30 p.m. And then there's two alternate
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positions. Alternates sit on the boards,
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they attend the meetings, they discuss,
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they contribute, they can be on
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subcommittees and working groups. They
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just only vote if one of the voting
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members is absent. So that's the only
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difference. There is an al an alternate
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position on the planning commission that
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meets the first Monday at six o'clock
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and there's an alternate on the
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development review board that meets the
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fourth Thursday at 7:00.
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Um
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you've met with officer Fontana tonight
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which is great. And I guess the other
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thing I would call a little bit of
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attention to um is
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whether you would like to consider
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exploring um combining these four
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meetings into one meeting. So the select
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board every year at reorganization
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designates itself as the board of
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cannabis control commissioners, the
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board of liquor commissioners, and the
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board of sewer commissioners. It's
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possible to just have one meeting with
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one agenda and one batch of minutes if
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you're not um opposed to that for a
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reason.
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I can investigate it some more.
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>> I mean I don't know if there would be
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any reason
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uh administratively that we would want
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to keep them.
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>> It's largely been separate so that the
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minutes could be searched separately.
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But I think now that minutes can be
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searched by computer and not just, you
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know, by opening a binder and looking
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from date to date to date, it's it's
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potentially going to streamline your
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operation.
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You don't have to decide anything. Just
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offering it out there.
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>> It's about all we have.
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I would like to add to your report as
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you printed it and I know it will be in
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the newspaper but we did introduce
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officer uh Fontana and u the we we are
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finally getting some activity on some
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additional interviews at the police
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department and have two other
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>> yes
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>> potential candidates in the works.
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Not going to say any more than that, but
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so that's that's good that we're working
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towards getting our police department
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back in order.
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>> U questions for the town manager from
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the board.
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Questions for the town manager on his
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report from the public? Barry.
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» Um Barry Varian. Um I live up off
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seminary. So
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» so so I get an opportunity to see the
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town hall for a bird's eye view as I
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come down at least once or twice a day.
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And I remember when we we set funds
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aside ARPA money for that roof. It was
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like a staggering amount of money.
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>> But I've been watching what those guys
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are doing and it's amazing to me they
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could even get done what they got done
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for that amount of money. I mean,
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there's a tremendous amount of labor and
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equipment and and time that goes into
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that roof. They're doing a hell of a
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job. They really are. And it looks
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great. So, um, feel good about it,
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really.
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>> Thanks.
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>> They actually put some uh some
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additional plywood down for some wood
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that was rotten and whatever. So, I
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mean, this was a big job. Ken Kulage.
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>> Ken Kulage on the roof. Thank you.
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>> Um, I did have a question. So, I know in
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the quote when it was presented, there
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was the option of doing the plywood,
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which when they did that one quarter, we
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knew that it was going to be pretty
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rotten, which
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kind of turned out to be. What other
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damage was there? How bad was it up
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there? So, um I did not see it
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firsthand, but the uh
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>> pictures online fact
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>> pictures Yeah. the pictures that were
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taken by Carl Spardella, who's the owner
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of the slate company, um he indicated it
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was it was predominantly at the eaves
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where the most rot was. Um I don't think
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they had to replace any of the joists or
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anything, but there were then spots
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around chimneys and so forth where
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natural spots where water would collect.
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They they didn't end up redecking the
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whole roof, both sides. They ended up
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redecking sections of it in plywood.
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It's
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>> good. Put all that work into it. Might
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as well make sure the
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>> underllayment is
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>> right.
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>> Good. So, where does that put us
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budgetwise for the estimate?
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>> I think it's going to fully obligate all
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that was set aside. Um the amount set
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aside was the amount that the select
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board set aside from the ARPA award.
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Then there was part of the insurance um
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claim for the chimney that was blown and
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we got the new boiler down here with
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part of that and the rest was to put
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toward rebuilding that chimney. There
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was a third source uh not getting me
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right now. So we don't have the final
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bill. We've made the initial payment
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which was about a third of the quote a
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progress payment when they switched from
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the east side to the west side of the
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roof. They got another third and so at
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this point this is when he's going to
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start. He has a little bit to do I think
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on the south facing. Um there's a small
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little roof at the base of the triangle
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that I don't know whether they're going
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to do copper or slate there. And then
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once that's all done, we'll get the
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final bill and it it's likely to be a
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third plus the add-ons.
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So, I would just make a suggestion if
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you it is over and with all those funds
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you'd already set aside to take it out
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of the um the not the grand
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>> the the 1% fund.
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>> No, I would leave that alone. I would
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take it off of the reserve if you have
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anything extra because as the reserve
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goes up,
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you want to use it. We used it a couple
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years ago to offset the tax increase,
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forgot about it the next year, that that
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increase needs to be accounted for the
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following year in the budget. So, if you
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use the reserve for some an overrun,
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it doesn't affect your taxes. It doesn't
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affect you the next year. Um, it's just
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a way to use up some of those funds for
[19:54]
unplanned items while you're still
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staying above your limit.
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>> That's good advice. I think, you know,
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when it's when we get the final bill,
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I'll certainly come back to the select
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board and give them the final accounting
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of what's been laid out and what they've
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already kind of set aside and we'll see
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what's left and what what might the
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options be. just to suggest.
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>> Yes,
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>> a lot of that would depend if if I
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reserve
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is above the 15% bottom threshold. So, I
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mean, we're right at it, but I don't
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know. We haven't got last year's results
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yet.
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>> Yeah, it's 569
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report.
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» Any final questions for the town manager
[20:33]
on his report?
[20:37]
» None seen. Moving on to
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Hey, Doug. Uh, community development
[20:44]
report for today the 14th. Uh, after
[20:47]
what I assume was a tremendously
[20:48]
successful chamber auction with our
[20:51]
Friday. The town hall upstairs is back
[20:53]
open for entertainment. July 19th, the
[20:55]
town hall's wildly popular silent movie
[20:57]
series resumed for Jeff's
[21:00]
company screening of the 1922 comedy
[21:03]
Grandma's Boy. Free donations are there
[21:06]
to support the 2026 series. Um, July
[21:09]
26th, LC Jazz returns with Big Van
[21:12]
Sound. A 6 PM start time with a $5
[21:15]
admission gains you access to swing
[21:16]
dancing fun. Proceeds are to benefit
[21:19]
music theater scholarship funds.
[21:22]
July the 27th, we're partnering with the
[21:24]
Brandy Museum to host Howard Coffin from
[21:26]
1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. upstairs. This is
[21:29]
a free wall offering uh renowned
[21:32]
historian's presentation of the Great
[21:34]
Bennington Battle in Vermont. It's a
[21:36]
great way to get geared up for Vermont's
[21:37]
250th celebration, which is next year.
[21:40]
Youth dance, cheer, field hockey, and
[21:43]
outdoor camps have some limited
[21:44]
registration space and start this week.
[21:47]
Visit brandonere.com.
[21:50]
I have an error in my report. The town
[21:52]
has not picked up its grantfunded BWID
[21:56]
buzz on Friday. It was delivered to us
[21:58]
today uh by the dealership. U we have a
[22:01]
phase, again, a reminder, grant funded.
[22:04]
This costs us nothing. The phase plan
[22:07]
will have it as a rec support vehicle
[22:09]
with some volunteer scheduled ride share
[22:12]
public transit connections coming online
[22:14]
in the next two months be structured
[22:16]
with that site. We started with the
[22:18]
right-of-way easement acquisition for
[22:20]
the Union Street sidewalk project. The
[22:22]
next this is the next phase to be
[22:24]
completed. Um these are all temporary
[22:26]
easements. We're not taking any land to
[22:28]
make these to um to have the sidewalk be
[22:30]
reconstructed, but it does require some
[22:32]
disruption in people's lives.
[22:35]
We started uh let's see, Youth Works is
[22:37]
back in town. Uh they were this church
[22:40]
youth group that was really ramped up
[22:42]
prior to COVID and then CO put a dent in
[22:46]
their camping uh camping missions, but
[22:49]
now they're back. Um for the next three
[22:51]
weeks, we'll be working with this
[22:53]
organization to complete many projects
[22:54]
all over town. groups of 10 to 15 youth
[22:57]
with counselors. We'll be helping to
[22:58]
beautify public parks and other spaces
[23:01]
three days a week. You'll see them
[23:02]
around a couple projects that they're
[23:04]
going to be working on
[23:06]
decking to be painted at the gazebo
[23:09]
park. Mother is clean up downtown.
[23:12]
They'll soon be constants
[23:15]
pay at the end.
[23:19]
Um uh fall planning is underway. Uh next
[23:22]
report will have the follow youth
[23:23]
offerings. The reminder that the great
[23:25]
Brandon Carnival is coming July 24th to
[23:28]
27th. This former collaboration is now
[23:30]
exclusively a field rental following
[23:32]
right events. Fun activities on tap with
[23:35]
Miller music rides state trivia
[23:37]
championship over open night and more.
[23:39]
Um I just want to say we had successful
[23:41]
I thought Independence Day celebration
[23:44]
last weekend.
[23:47]
I earned some coverage lease. Um I've
[23:51]
been the chair on that committee for
[23:52]
nine years. of stepping down as chair. I
[23:55]
encourage any young pupils that are
[23:57]
around in the audience. I guess
[24:01]
anybody that would like to volunteer to
[24:03]
help make 2026 celebration even better.
[24:06]
Um cool thing about um volunteerism in a
[24:09]
small town is you have the opportunity
[24:10]
to make the changes you want to see by
[24:13]
simply showing up at meetings and
[24:14]
expressing your opinions and then
[24:16]
working to make that happen. uh when I
[24:22]
» like to add to Bill Moy's report that
[24:24]
last year I was able to see some of the
[24:26]
youth works doing some of their jobs and
[24:28]
stopped to talk to them and thank them
[24:30]
for being here. So if you run into a
[24:32]
bunch of kids working in our parks or
[24:33]
around town, it's great to thank them
[24:35]
for what they're doing because they're
[24:37]
coming here and they're saving us money.
[24:38]
So it's really a that's certainly a a
[24:41]
really nice thing. Questions for Mr.
[24:44]
Moore from the board?
[24:46]
questions of Mr. Moore from the public.
[24:51]
Mr. Moore is off the hot seat.
[24:54]
>> We'll get back on
[24:55]
>> uh
[24:58]
temporarily.
[25:00]
>> Okay. Item six on our agenda is to award
[25:03]
the uh bid for demolition of a femur
[25:07]
buyout property. Um
[25:11]
Mr. Hopkins, Mr. Moore, I don't know
[25:12]
who's doing that. Me again.
[25:14]
>> There you go. We're back on.
[25:15]
>> So, I'll read the letter. I submitted as
[25:17]
a part of the uh select word packet. Uh
[25:20]
the town hosted a bid opening on June
[25:21]
27th 125 of demolition services of an F
[25:25]
FRCF FEMA hazard mitigation program
[25:28]
acquired property located at 317 North
[25:30]
Street. Um there were results. We had
[25:33]
quite a few biders. Um the low bid is
[25:36]
current low bidder is Richard Reedson.
[25:38]
They have performed this type of work in
[25:41]
the past. most recently for properties
[25:42]
located at 17 Burke Park and 301 Newton
[25:45]
Road. Their work was excellent and met
[25:47]
the requirements uh of FEMA FRCF. It's
[25:51]
my recommendation the select board
[25:52]
consider that to be a valid bid and
[25:53]
award the demolition board Richard Reed
[25:56]
and son I listed all the bids there
[26:02]
of the board
[26:05]
that
[26:08]
second motion and a second
[26:12]
the vid Mr. Ree and son I've known them
[26:16]
for many many years and they have done
[26:18]
other jobs very good so I agree but any
[26:22]
other discussions I will
[26:51]
second. All in favor? So morning to
[26:55]
Richard Reed and son say I I
[26:58]
>> I
[27:06]
um item seven considering a revolving
[27:11]
loan to Pit Factory Fitness LLC.
[27:17]
>> Hey, it's me again
[27:19]
LLC. So I have a letter that I uh
[27:22]
prepared for the select board. Um on
[27:24]
July the 10th, the Brandon revolving
[27:25]
loan fund committee met with Andy Donor
[27:28]
consider a loan request for Fit Factory
[27:30]
Fitness LLC. Board was impressed by the
[27:33]
presentation and his plan to establish a
[27:35]
fitness gym facility in the building
[27:37]
that was the former home of Upscale
[27:39]
Resale. fitness craze that has emerged
[27:41]
since Brandon's last gym closed around
[27:43]
15 years ago demonstrates that Brandon
[27:46]
can support this type of business,
[27:48]
addressing the retail leakage that
[27:49]
occurs with the many people that live in
[27:51]
our community that travel to either
[27:52]
Rutland or Mbury to work out. Andy
[27:55]
Donor's proven track record as an owner
[27:57]
principal of multiple successful
[27:59]
businesses along with his wife coupled
[28:01]
with a comprehensive plan made for
[28:03]
unanimous endorsement from the board
[28:05]
members present and terms are listed in
[28:08]
the letter. uh loan amount will be
[28:10]
$59,989.
[28:12]
Turns be 5.5% interest rate enterprise
[28:15]
is a 120month loan. The balloon payment
[28:17]
at 60 months and collateral will be
[28:19]
security interest and business assets
[28:21]
factory versus loan guarantee
[28:27]
the board.
[28:31]
Motion we approve that second.
[28:35]
We have a motion and second.
[28:40]
None heard. All in favor of approving
[28:43]
the uh loan
[28:46]
>> say
[28:48]
>> I
[28:51]
say I
[28:51]
>> I
[28:57]
found
[28:59]
I can't wait for it.
[29:11]
and it it really been the reason that
[29:15]
we're able to do the thing in town that
[29:18]
we do. So, um thank you for honoring
[29:21]
that again. Um but I think it's an
[29:24]
awesome opportunity for uh people that
[29:26]
are trying to get going in town. So,
[29:29]
thank you for having that.
[29:32]
Can you say roughly when you might be
[29:34]
opening and when memberships will
[29:38]
» I was looking at him
[29:41]
>> but in typical fashion my wife always
[29:43]
answers for me too
[29:44]
>> Andy when when might you open and
[29:47]
memberships would be available. So,
[29:50]
right now we're dealing with the the
[29:51]
septic design um which we're going back
[29:54]
and forth, but we're hoping to have the
[29:55]
design completed for the end of next
[29:58]
month and then submitted to the state
[30:00]
for the permit to complete. So, we're
[30:03]
hoping for like fall um late fall
[30:06]
opening. And when we get everything
[30:09]
ready to go, there's a big sign out
[30:11]
front with the QR code you can scan
[30:14]
before we're open, bring you to the
[30:15]
website, memberships will be available
[30:18]
and all that stuff. So
[30:20]
>> fantastic.
[30:21]
>> Look for the big banner.
[30:24]
>> Okay. Thank you very much.
[30:26]
>> Thank you guys.
[30:26]
>> Happy to have another good business in
[30:28]
town.
[30:33]
» Moving on.
[30:36]
Uh set terms for Bravo's door.
[30:40]
>> Is that is that you?
[30:42]
>> So Mr. Chair, there's a short memo in
[30:44]
the packet. Uh the Bravo board uh is the
[30:47]
restorative justice program in Brandon
[30:49]
and the Bravo um the Bravo panelists are
[30:54]
different from the Bravo board. So the
[30:55]
panelists are the ones where they
[30:57]
actually get a group together to meet
[30:58]
with uh the victim and the offender and
[31:00]
kind of sort through what the process
[31:02]
would be to come to restorative justice.
[31:04]
This is kind of the supervisory board,
[31:07]
the advisory group. uh they're supposed
[31:09]
to recruit some volunteers to sit on
[31:10]
those panels, link them up with the
[31:12]
police chief and the town manager, make
[31:14]
sure that uh we're moving restorative
[31:16]
justice along in Brandon, get them some
[31:18]
training, that kind of thing. So, the
[31:19]
names are of the current members are
[31:22]
Mitch Pearl, he's currently the chair.
[31:25]
Paula Ashley is currently the
[31:27]
coordinator. Sue Gage uh has expressed
[31:30]
that she will be the incoming
[31:31]
coordinator. She's willing to do that.
[31:33]
Paula is ready to step out of that role.
[31:36]
Debbie Boyce who is a founding member.
[31:38]
She started this with Art Dodie and
[31:45]
can't remember right now Dick Kirby or
[31:47]
somebody and then Erin Kilpek. So, uh
[31:50]
they're asking for one-year terms to run
[31:52]
from July 1st to June 30th. this has
[31:55]
kind of been an indefinite informal
[31:57]
thing and they're trying to formalize it
[31:59]
just a little bit, but they don't want
[32:00]
to have um what might be the customary
[32:04]
rotating staggered three-year terms.
[32:06]
They really all prefer to have a
[32:08]
one-year appointment.
[32:11]
>> Pleasure of the board.
[32:15]
» Um that's what they want. Uh I will move
[32:18]
that we adopt the uh term limits uh as
[32:22]
set out in the memo you sent for Bravo.
[32:25]
>> I'll second that.
[32:27]
>> Now will they come forth with the names
[32:29]
of the people on an annual basis to us
[32:32]
like when we appoint everybody else or
[32:34]
>> it would it would be added to the list
[32:36]
um that Elaine generally calls to see if
[32:39]
someone is still interested in
[32:41]
continuing or not. It would be on that
[32:42]
list.
[32:43]
>> Okay.
[32:45]
Motion and a second. Any additional
[32:47]
discussion?
[32:51]
None heard. All in favor of adopting the
[32:54]
motion to
[32:56]
uh give them one-year terms, please say
[32:58]
I.
[32:59]
>> I.
[33:00]
>> Opposed? No one.
[33:04]
Very agreeable group this evening.
[33:08]
Uh board driven ordinance and repeal of
[33:13]
the pool hall regulation. Okay.
[33:19]
» Well, we can have a pool. It's got to
[33:21]
meet these requirements.
[33:24]
>> So, um I have in my in your packet, I do
[33:27]
have a little letter about uh I just
[33:29]
want to read a little piece of it. Um
[33:30]
which is that the select board's
[33:32]
influence in leading the community is
[33:34]
through shaping policy, right, in this
[33:36]
form of government. It's one of the
[33:38]
statutory roles that the select board
[33:40]
has as the elected legislative body of
[33:42]
the town. So, I did bring um at Jeff's
[33:46]
left hand there is the binder. So,
[33:48]
that's basically about six dozen
[33:51]
ordinances that the town knows that the
[33:54]
select board has passed at some point
[33:56]
and has been keeping track of. Many of
[33:59]
them have not been reviewed in a number
[34:00]
of years. Um uh Mr. Dr. Bailey as board
[34:04]
chair has talked about the board's role,
[34:06]
you know, kind of it would be good to
[34:07]
keep refreshing these and we should make
[34:09]
sure that whatever ordinances we have in
[34:12]
effect actually reflect the wishes of
[34:15]
the select board in terms of what
[34:16]
they're trying to regulate. So, um
[34:19]
there's some possibilities to have an
[34:21]
outside firm do this for you. A ballpark
[34:24]
figure would be like $15,000.
[34:28]
it would be you'd end up with something
[34:29]
like called the Brandon Municipal Code
[34:32]
or something to that effect. They made
[34:34]
reference uh the group that I was
[34:36]
speaking with about this, they made
[34:38]
reference to Rutland City. They've just
[34:39]
done this for Rutland City at some point
[34:41]
in the past. There's an online version
[34:43]
that's kind of interactive so people can
[34:45]
search around if they want it. And then
[34:47]
there's a formal code book that's
[34:50]
produced that can be distributed or
[34:52]
whatever.
[34:53]
Um, if you don't want to go that route,
[34:56]
um, there's other options. I thought I
[34:58]
could just bring you one or two every
[35:00]
time and you could look at it, lay it
[35:02]
over a meeting. If you want to consider
[35:04]
altering it or whatever, you could
[35:06]
appoint a working group to meet before
[35:08]
the next select board meeting and report
[35:10]
back to the full board. Um, others have
[35:13]
thought maybe a working group could look
[35:15]
at the whole thing holistically rather
[35:17]
than doing it um, one at a time. So,
[35:20]
there's some options before you. And I
[35:22]
did pick out the pool hall ordinance
[35:24]
because that for a long time has been
[35:26]
kind of the the one that seems the most
[35:30]
irrelevant to the way we live today.
[35:33]
So if you wanted to do anything with
[35:35]
that or with any of the ordinances, um
[35:38]
the process is written down at the
[35:40]
bottom half of my page there talks about
[35:43]
um the notices that have to be posted
[35:45]
and what the process is for advertising
[35:48]
and entertaining public objection.
[35:51]
Thank you. Um, today Cecil and I met to
[35:55]
go over this whole agenda with Seth and
[35:59]
I voiced my concerns that I personally
[36:01]
would rather have us do this and not
[36:03]
spend $15,000.
[36:06]
um whether we do it peacemeal or one
[36:09]
giant thing and and Cecil offered to
[36:15]
kind of lead this along which I totally
[36:19]
satisfied with.
[36:21]
Um but what would the board what's the
[36:24]
board's feelings? I mean, I I figure
[36:27]
that what we could start doing, and I'm
[36:30]
happy to do it, is start going through
[36:33]
that binder and just looking at, oh,
[36:38]
it's fairly easy to tell by looking at
[36:41]
an ordinance whether, okay, there's
[36:43]
something that definitely needs to be
[36:44]
fixed about this or repealed or
[36:46]
whatever. Um, others it may be that we
[36:49]
may want to look at them in more detail
[36:52]
to see whether we need to make
[36:54]
amendments to them or not. But I'm, you
[36:56]
know, I'm more than happy to
[36:58]
make a first run through it and tag
[37:01]
stuff that we can deal with in short
[37:04]
order or is order and then go back to
[37:07]
the stuff that may need to be dealt with
[37:10]
in more depth. Um, we have no deadline.
[37:14]
This isn't like the town plan where we
[37:17]
have to have it done every five years or
[37:18]
every years. It's it's more like, you
[37:22]
know, it's better not to have
[37:24]
like ordinance, which is actually pretty
[37:27]
amusing. Um, you know, to just go
[37:29]
through and see if there's something
[37:30]
that's like really out ofd or archaic or
[37:34]
um and pull those out. And so, and then
[37:39]
my thought was after that, then we could
[37:41]
have a working group to really kind of
[37:44]
drill down into the ones that need to be
[37:46]
dealt with in more detail and hopefully
[37:49]
come up with something that, you know,
[37:52]
may take longer than the professional
[37:55]
codification would, but um I'm free and
[38:01]
that's better than $15,000.
[38:05]
>> Mr. hand.
[38:06]
>> So, one one of my goals um with this
[38:09]
even coming up is something that I had
[38:10]
as a goal even when I was on the select
[38:12]
board. It was basically to organize them
[38:15]
that I'm not saying that they are
[38:17]
disheveled in any way like they're kept,
[38:19]
they're careful, but there's no theme
[38:22]
like this is public safety, this is
[38:24]
public works. There's there's no
[38:25]
compartments or departments of the of
[38:28]
Brandon's book. It's more or less
[38:29]
alphabetical order, which is not how you
[38:32]
store chemicals and not how you plow
[38:34]
streets in the winter, right? Um, it
[38:36]
should be organized in some way. So, if
[38:38]
while we're organizing it, we decide
[38:41]
some stuff should be kind of called out
[38:43]
of it, that's probably the right time to
[38:44]
do it.
[38:46]
My feelings are if you know our one of
[38:50]
the the major thing for a brand or for a
[38:52]
Vermont select board is to set policy
[38:54]
and procedure which this is right up the
[38:57]
line. If we fail, we can always go back
[39:00]
to hiring someone in a year from now.
[39:02]
If we are successful, we save $15,000
[39:07]
and
[39:09]
always with our eye on the budget, I
[39:11]
think it would be move us to uh give it
[39:14]
a serious look and work our way through
[39:16]
it slowly.
[39:19]
>> Am I correct that many of these are not
[39:21]
digitized? I would say the vast majority
[39:24]
are not digitized
[39:25]
>> because that's something else we could
[39:27]
probably take a swing at or we can get
[39:28]
some volunteers to take a swing at that
[39:30]
would at least get a rudimentary
[39:32]
>> list of them online or something.
[39:34]
>> Okay.
[39:37]
Yep. I saw you walking. I assumed you
[39:40]
were going to raise your hand.
[39:45]
Vicki Disorda,
[39:47]
I think I just heard you say that it's
[39:49]
the select board's responsibility to set
[39:53]
policies.
[39:54]
>> Yes.
[39:55]
>> And uh my question tonight that I came
[39:59]
here for is uh I guess now is a good
[40:02]
time as any to ask about the select
[40:04]
board's responsibility as far as
[40:06]
following policy
[40:08]
>> for which policy
[40:10]
>> for following policies.
[40:15]
I would think that we
[40:17]
>> Is there a particular policy in mind?
[40:20]
>> Yes, there is. Uh I think it was the
[40:22]
June 23rd
[40:25]
select board meeting.
[40:27]
There were eight seats
[40:30]
presented to the board all three-year
[40:33]
terms for vacancies on different
[40:37]
volunteer boards.
[40:39]
And our town policy states that when a
[40:43]
vacancy occurs in an office, board or
[40:45]
commission, which the select board is
[40:48]
the appointing authority, one, the board
[40:50]
will announce the vacancy at the first
[40:52]
regular select board meeting following
[40:54]
notification of the vacancy
[40:57]
and um require letters of interest from
[41:02]
those wishing to serve. And that the
[41:04]
town will post the vacancies in the town
[41:07]
clerk's office. two bulletin boards,
[41:09]
front porch forum and the newspaper, and
[41:12]
that the board will make appointments no
[41:14]
earlier than the second regular board
[41:16]
meeting after the announcements of the
[41:18]
vacancy, none of which occurred prior to
[41:22]
those appointments. And as I watched
[41:25]
what was happening, all I could think of
[41:28]
is a nominating committee on a church in
[41:32]
a church.
[41:34]
And that's the way I feel those
[41:36]
vacancies were handled.
[41:38]
um uh equal opportunity begins with
[41:42]
opportunity and so it is going to be 3
[41:45]
years before anyone else in town has an
[41:48]
opportunity to serve in those positions.
[41:52]
So, I'm wondering if you can explain to me
[41:58]
how this entire panel is not was not in
[42:02]
violation of the town policy. And please
[42:05]
explain to me how this failure to follow
[42:08]
a documented policy is any different
[42:10]
than the trouble we just had with the
[42:12]
former elected board of public trustees.
[42:17]
>> Okay.
[42:18]
>> And this is not a new problem. I just
[42:20]
want to say because in May of 2023,
[42:26]
I expressed an interest on being on a
[42:28]
committee in town and um to the town
[42:32]
manager. I again expressed an interest
[42:34]
on July 26. I emailed the entire select
[42:38]
board and no one responded to me until
[42:42]
April of 2024. That's 11 months later
[42:46]
when it was to let me know that someone
[42:50]
else was being appointed to a position
[42:52]
that was never posted. And then um just
[42:57]
last week on a one commission I finally
[43:01]
got on to because no one else applied
[43:03]
for it for months. Um a gentleman showed
[43:07]
up and said that the town manager had
[43:09]
asked him to be on the board. So again,
[43:12]
explain to me how this municipal body is
[43:15]
functioning any different than uh 501c3
[43:20]
religious organization. Thank you.
[43:23]
>> Um I'm happy to take a stab at answering
[43:25]
that. Um I I think that um I can
[43:30]
understand your concern
[43:33]
but
[43:35]
uh from the point of view of the board
[43:38]
and this has been in the past there were
[43:40]
not vacancies on any of those boards.
[43:43]
All those boards had filled seats and
[43:47]
the procedure has always been that they
[43:51]
first look to see if the people in those
[43:53]
seats want to continue on. And so the
[43:58]
policy regarding vacancies is if within
[44:00]
a term a seat becomes vacant because
[44:03]
someone decides not to do it anymore or
[44:06]
has a conflict or moves or any number of
[44:11]
reasons that seats have become open. And
[44:14]
for example, when I was on the planning
[44:16]
commission, we had openings. One, two,
[44:19]
there were three different seats that
[44:22]
became vacant in the two years that I
[44:24]
was on the planning committee commission
[44:27]
that were filled. Um, I think the same
[44:30]
has happened with a lot of others. And
[44:32]
so I understand your concern. I think I
[44:36]
respectfully disagree with your
[44:38]
interpretation of the select board's
[44:40]
actions. Can you explain to me what the
[44:43]
purpose of term limits is then if
[44:45]
whoever's serving on a board can stay on
[44:48]
it indefinitely as long as they want to
[44:51]
once they're in the position. We have a
[44:53]
town of 4,000 people
[44:57]
and the same individuals serve on
[45:00]
multiple boards.
[45:03]
How does that give any other residents,
[45:06]
registered voters, taxpaying citizens an
[45:09]
opportunity to do their civic duty?
[45:13]
So, we don't have term limit. We have
[45:17]
terms that can be reuped. And so,
[45:20]
someone gets appointed for a set term,
[45:23]
they can choose to re-up or they can
[45:26]
resign at the end of that term. but it's
[45:28]
not term limited in the sense of that
[45:31]
legal term of art. Um, I would also say
[45:35]
that we've had openings on some boards
[45:38]
that we've been begging people to apply
[45:40]
for. So, it's not so much that there is
[45:46]
a ground I I would love it if we had a
[45:48]
ground swell of volunteers wanting to be
[45:50]
on these boards,
[45:52]
but to be honest, that hasn't really
[45:54]
happened. Well, what you're telling me
[45:57]
may be technically and legally correct,
[46:00]
but I feel like it's a spiritual
[46:03]
violation of the purpose of having
[46:07]
terms.
[46:16]
» Yes. I do want to clarify that um just
[46:19]
because somebody has been on a
[46:21]
commission or a board, filled a term,
[46:24]
and been asked if they want to be
[46:25]
considered to continue, that doesn't
[46:27]
mean that they get to stay on that
[46:28]
committee as long as they want, as was
[46:30]
just said, right? The select board still
[46:33]
chooses whether to appoint, reappoint,
[46:36]
or not every member of the commission
[46:39]
when the terms come due.
[46:42]
So, it's not like you get appointed once
[46:44]
and you're you're in for good behavior.
[46:45]
like you get appointed once and then if
[46:47]
the select board determines that that
[46:49]
board needs to be rebalanced or there
[46:51]
needs to be other voices represented
[46:53]
they they can thank you for serving and
[46:55]
they can choose someone else.
[46:58]
>> I could let me I want to add to that and
[47:00]
then I'll let you talk again. I I know
[47:02]
last year when we did the budget
[47:03]
committee, we had everyone reapply and
[47:05]
we did actually make changes and we did
[47:09]
have
[47:11]
people who had been on the budget
[47:12]
committee who
[47:15]
had agreed that they would stay on. We
[47:20]
wanted to add a different voices and we
[47:23]
added new and different people last year
[47:25]
and and did not renew everyone. So, it's I guess each time it might be a
[47:30]
little different, but
[47:30]
>> Mr. chair, the reason you were able to
[47:34]
create a more diverse board is because
[47:37]
that was posted and you had a bigger
[47:39]
group. But if positions are never
[47:42]
posted, how can you ever see if there's
[47:44]
an opportunity for more diversity,
[47:47]
equity, or inclusivity?
[47:51]
» Okay, good point, Jan Kulage.
[47:56]
>> To me, it's like you change your mind
[47:58]
depending on the board.
[48:01]
One year it's this way, one year it's
[48:03]
this way. Where's your consistency?
[48:06]
Where some boards, like you said, you
[48:09]
see if they want to continue and you
[48:10]
leave them on. Like for the budget
[48:13]
committee for years, every once we were
[48:15]
elected, once you guys elected us, you
[48:19]
know, we had to submit our letter and
[48:20]
that we were on that every year we got
[48:23]
asked, do you want to continue? Yes. If
[48:26]
not, then they may post for one person
[48:28]
because they left. They posted for a
[48:31]
position. Then two years ago, just out
[48:33]
of the blue, you told us, "Oh, you have
[48:36]
to apply."
[48:38]
So, where's your consistency? So, now
[48:40]
we're hearing it on different boards.
[48:42]
Then I look back to how you did the
[48:45]
budget committee. So, where was your
[48:47]
consistency? all of a sudden you decided
[48:49]
you're going to follow the rules that policy says where it you didn't
[48:54]
follow it before that then. So I'm just
[48:57]
wondering what changed that we were
[49:01]
asked did we want to continue and then
[49:04]
the last two years we had to apply. So
[49:07]
I'm just wondering
[49:09]
what changed on that committee not just
[49:13]
on that committee you know other
[49:15]
committees you have different reasons
[49:17]
but it's like consistency so everyone
[49:20]
has the same expectation
[49:23]
you know townwide
[49:25]
>> Vicki one more time
[49:26]
>> I I would just like to make a
[49:29]
observation and answer to Miss Kulage's
[49:31]
question um that change occurred
[49:34]
following the very contentious
[49:38]
budget season where the previous board
[49:41]
stood up and said that the select board
[49:42]
did not listen to them and then the
[49:45]
positions were put on posted for people
[49:48]
to apply.
[49:49]
>> As part of the budget committee, I would
[49:51]
say that um like Jan, I was on the
[49:55]
budget committee prior and then when the
[49:58]
email came out and said we all had to
[50:00]
reapply, maybe like Jan, I was almost a
[50:02]
little offended saying, "I've been doing
[50:04]
this for a number of years. now I have
[50:05]
to apply for it. And I was on vacation
[50:07]
in Maine and I almost didn't want to
[50:09]
apply for it, but my wife talked me down
[50:11]
off the ceiling and said, "Don't be an
[50:13]
idiot. Apply." And last year
[50:17]
as the board chair, I wanted to open it
[50:19]
up for a whole, you know, relook. And
[50:22]
I'm sure that's what we're going to do
[50:23]
again this year is have every, you know,
[50:26]
let everyone know that's on the
[50:27]
committee that uh,
[50:29]
>> you know, we want to know their interest
[50:31]
and we're going to look at it. On some
[50:34]
boards certainly there's a learning
[50:36]
curve and um, sort of we'll say start
[50:40]
with a whole new board in some fields
[50:42]
would be probably a very difficult
[50:44]
thing. But I'd say that should be maybe
[50:46]
one of the first policies that we look
[50:48]
at is how we do that and and follow it.
[50:51]
So I think that would be a plus as far
[50:52]
as looking at what our policies.
[50:56]
>> Okay.
[50:59]
» Well, we will try to attack that.
[51:04]
>> Okay.
[51:11]
» Pardon?
[51:11]
>> I think we're still in the pool.
[51:12]
>> We're still in the pool. All
[51:14]
>> I would just
[51:18]
as uh Mr. Hopkins noted there are three
[51:22]
committee
[51:23]
uh seats that are open for people who
[51:27]
are interested. There's the voting
[51:29]
position on the energy committee and
[51:31]
then there's the alternate position on
[51:34]
the DRB and the planning commission. I
[51:36]
know from experience that uh at least on
[51:39]
the planning commission, people that
[51:41]
were originally appointed as alternates
[51:45]
uh ended up getting voting seats. um
[51:48]
when vacancies occurred, they put in
[51:50]
their names for the voting seats that
[51:52]
got them. So, you know, it's a way to
[51:54]
get your foot in the door. Even if you
[51:55]
don't have a voting seat for every
[51:57]
single meeting, you do have the
[51:59]
opportunity to participate and to vote
[52:02]
if they don't otherwise have a quorum.
[52:05]
There's that.
[52:08]
So, do we want to do anything on the
[52:10]
pool hall regulation or do we want to
[52:12]
have that that was just an example or do
[52:15]
we want to act on it tonight and we we
[52:18]
want to review it?
[52:22]
>> Pleasure to the board. Well, given that
[52:24]
we have no bowling alleys or footballs
[52:26]
in town at the moment,
[52:30]
um, and given that
[52:34]
um,
[52:36]
the
[52:37]
reasonable requirements for the
[52:39]
protection of the public morals are not
[52:42]
um, in keeping with today's standards. I
[52:45]
would move to repeal this particular
[52:48]
policy since it's in front of us.
[52:51]
>> I'll second that.
[52:53]
Okay, we have a motion and a second to
[52:58]
uh get rid of our pool hall and bowling
[53:01]
alley policy.
[53:04]
Any other dis discussion from the board?
[53:08]
Motion in a second. All in favor of
[53:11]
doing away with this policy say I.
[53:14]
>> I.
[53:15]
>> Opposed? No one.
[53:18]
Bools and bowling alleys.
[53:21]
And and any of you who manages to leave
[53:23]
this room without the music man stuff
[53:25]
like that?
[53:26]
>> I played the music man in middle school.
[53:29]
>> Okay.
[53:29]
>> I played for
[53:32]
>> uh right in line with the discussion the
[53:35]
uh FY27 budget process. Uh
[53:43]
» all right, Mr. Chair. I was hoping I I
[53:45]
>> I just noticed a question up here that
[53:47]
answer something I was
[53:49]
>> Okay.
[53:50]
20 minutes ago.
[53:51]
>> Zoe
[53:54]
saying, "No, late, but I know I'm late
[53:56]
on this, but why? Can someone comment on why they're
[53:59]
demolishing a property?" Just curious
[54:04]
mitigation.
[54:27]
Hello. Hello.
[54:31]
» We bought it because it's in the
[54:32]
floodway.
[54:34]
Reach out to me if you have any other
[54:36]
questions.
[54:40]
was a long uh mosquito district
[54:44]
>> and the batteries have been completely
[54:47]
recharged.
[54:52]
» Did you get that question answered?
[54:56]
>> LOL. Okay.
[54:57]
>> Okay. Um so next on the agenda is the uh
[55:02]
budget process. Um, I would like to
[55:06]
say that we're going to send an email to
[55:09]
the people who are on last year's budget
[55:12]
um committee, ask them for their
[55:15]
interest in retaining and to apply again
[55:20]
and anyone in the public have Mr.
[55:23]
Hopkins put an ad out or anyone else who
[55:25]
would like to join the budget committee
[55:28]
and then we will interview
[55:31]
um those people early in August.
[55:36]
>> I'm assuming only people that haven't
[55:39]
served before because we we know the
[55:40]
people
[55:41]
>> we know the people who have served. So
[55:44]
uh we will
[55:46]
uh test the waters there and come up
[55:48]
with it. It's our intent to start uh the
[55:52]
budget process once again very early
[55:55]
which would be um in the tail end of
[55:59]
August and we would have budget meetings
[56:01]
on opposite Monday nights of select
[56:04]
board meetings. So select board is the
[56:07]
second and fourth and the budget will be
[56:10]
first third Mondays. I hope that our
[56:14]
procedure may be a little easier now
[56:16]
that we've been through it once this
[56:18]
way. But um um clearly the time and the
[56:25]
effort we put in last year was important
[56:28]
and we want to do that again. Um
[56:32]
and I think we'll be prepared for it. So
[56:34]
is there more on that subject than my
[56:36]
announcing that?
[56:39]
So, watch for the announcement. And for
[56:41]
those who were on the committee, you
[56:43]
will be receiving a email from Elaine
[56:46]
asking if you're still interested in
[56:48]
being on. And for others, we will um be
[56:53]
taking applications.
[56:57]
No comments on that. Good. We are now up
[57:00]
to item 11, public comment and
[57:04]
participation. First, any comments from
[57:06]
any board members?
[57:09]
None. Any other? Yes, I see two hands.
[57:12]
Uh, we're going to go with Brent first.
[57:14]
Bear, you spoke once already.
[57:18]
>> Yes, Brent Buler. Um, I do like the idea
[57:21]
of you all combining the commission with
[57:24]
the select board meetings because I came
[57:27]
illprepared tonight for the sewer
[57:28]
commission meeting and the uh submitt by
[57:33]
the town manager Seth Hopkins for
[57:35]
Rootex. I think that's a perfect thing
[57:38]
once the board of trustees for the
[57:41]
Shirley Far fund get up and running.
[57:43]
That's a perfect expense to submit to
[57:46]
them for payment. $12,600.
[57:51]
So, thank you. That's it.
[57:54]
>> Thank you, Mr. Beer. Now, Barry,
[57:58]
>> just aformational question. I came down
[58:01]
for the Fourth of July fireworks um and
[58:05]
sat on the the town hall steps with a
[58:07]
gang of people. Thoroughly enjoyed it as
[58:10]
did everyone around me. But the the big
[58:13]
question that came up from any everyone
[58:14]
I had no answers for where exactly do
[58:18]
they shoot up from
[58:22]
» this secret location uh everyone was
[58:26]
trying to guess
[58:29]
uh at the end of Mill Lane uh just below
[58:33]
Hannerford and above the river a high
[58:36]
spot. It's an amazing spot and we have a
[58:39]
couple land owners that are really cool
[58:41]
about letting us set it off right there
[58:42]
because it's safe. Um, and it's awesome.
[58:45]
Yeah, it was awesome.
[58:49]
» Any other questions or comments
[58:52]
participation from the audience?
[58:59]
None heard.
[59:01]
Uh we will then take a 10-minute recess
[59:05]
before the board goes into executive
[59:07]
session.
[59:09]
Thank you very much for coming everyone.
[59:24]
» You guys all ready?
[59:26]
>> Yep.
[59:31]
Um, I move that we enter executive
[59:33]
session per 1BSA section 313A2
[59:37]
regarding negotiating or securing real
[59:38]
estate purchase or lease options uh to
[59:40]
include the town management team.
[59:42]
>> Second.
[59:44]
>> All in favor say I.
[59:46]
>> I. I.
[59:47]
>> Mike.
[59:52]
» I move to exit executive session. Second
[59:56]
motion
[59:57]
out of executive session. All in favor?
[1:00:00]
I close. No one.
[1:00:07]
» Oh, I was just going to move to come
[1:00:08]
out.
[1:00:10]
Um,
[1:00:12]
I move that we
[1:00:20]
refund to Julie Delelfi the $750 that
[1:00:23]
she paid to purchase swamp land from the
[1:00:28]
town that appears not to have been the
[1:00:31]
town's to sell.
[1:00:32]
>> I'll second that.
[1:00:35]
>> We have a motion in a second.
[1:00:38]
refund the 750. All in favor say I.
[1:00:42]
>> I
[1:00:44]
unanimous.
[1:00:45]
>> Maybe also a motion to accept her quick
[1:00:47]
deed.
[1:00:50]
>> Okay.
[1:00:52]
>> And
[1:00:56]
» so did she prepare this or our attorney?
[1:00:59]
>> Um
[1:01:01]
it hasn't been executed yet. So do we
[1:01:05]
accept it until it's executed?
[1:01:09]
I don't
[1:01:10]
>> to authorize me to accept it.
[1:01:12]
>> Yeah.
[1:01:14]
>> Um I move to authorize uh Seth Hopkins,
[1:01:19]
town manager, to accept a fully executed
[1:01:22]
quit claim deed from Barry and Julie
[1:01:24]
Delia in exchange for the payment of
[1:01:28]
$750
[1:01:30]
once that deed is fully executed.
[1:01:34]
>> Second. We have a motion, a second to
[1:01:37]
have Seth Hopkins
[1:01:39]
finish this after receiving the executed
[1:01:42]
deed. All in favor?
[1:01:47]
» No one
[1:01:52]
need a
[1:01:54]
item 13, executive session.
[1:02:02]
I move that we enter executive session
[1:02:04]
pursuant to 1BSA section 313 sub A sub3
[1:02:08]
regarding the appointment or employment
[1:02:10]
of a public officer or employee. Uh and
[1:02:14]
this is in regard to police department
[1:02:15]
applicant status to include the town
[1:02:18]
management team.
[1:02:19]
>> I will second.
[1:02:21]
>> All in favor of entering executive
[1:02:23]
session say I. I. I.
[1:02:28]
» No one but we're good.
[1:02:32]
I move to exit executive session.
[1:02:38]
» Second motion in a second to come out of
[1:02:39]
executive session. All in favor say I.
[1:02:41]
>> I.
[1:02:45]
» Um we are out of executive session at
[1:02:49]
8:31. No action taken. Moving on to the
[1:02:53]
last
[1:02:54]
>> motion to adjurnn.
[1:02:55]
>> Second. All
[1:02:56]
>> in favor of adjourning say I. I.
[1:02:58]
>> I.
[1:03:02]
So
[1:03:04]
same thing here we had
[1:03:07]
when we were at the board meeting way.