[1:52] Good afternoon and welcome to the

[1:54] council meeting of Tuesday, July 22nd,

[1:56] 2025. We will begin with our land

[1:58] acknowledgement statement. We would like

[2:00] to acknowledge the land on which we meet

[2:02] today. For thousands of years, it has

[2:03] been the traditional land of the

[2:04] Alangquin nation. Today, this meeting

[2:07] place is still the home to many

[2:08] indigenous people, and we are grateful

[2:10] to have the opportunity to live and work

[2:12] on this land. Thank you, Chair

[2:14] Bullerton.

[2:17] » Uh, thank you. Um, his worship, U Mayor

[2:20] Ren, is on vacation this week, so I'm um

[2:24] uh taking his uh his place, his chair,

[2:27] his chair duties tonight. Um we hope

[2:30] he's having a wonderful time and

[2:31] understood that uh was a very uh happy

[2:34] family occasion for the wedding of his

[2:36] daughter on the weekend. So um uh he has

[2:39] all of our good wishes for that. Um uh

[2:43] tonight I wanted to uh extend council's

[2:46] uh condolences to uh the family of Mayor

[2:51] Jim Pickard who um who passed away and

[2:55] um just to say that uh Jim Pickard was a

[2:58] colleague of all of ours. So I think we

[2:59] all knew him well and knew his his ready

[3:02] smile. Um uh Jim uh as I say was the

[3:06] mayor of um Elizabeth Town Kitley. Uh he

[3:10] was a lifelong volunteer. When you look

[3:12] at the the resume, it's amazing. Uh

[3:15] involved with the theater guild with

[3:17] numerous service clubs, um coaching um

[3:21] ball, just doing so many things. He was

[3:25] a former uh citizen of the year in the

[3:27] village of uh Lynn where he was very

[3:29] very active. Uh he was a pilot, he was a

[3:33] boater. um he just lived a very full uh

[3:36] life and he'll be missed by all those

[3:39] who um who knew him and we extend our

[3:42] condolences not just to his family and

[3:45] to his three children uh and and the

[3:47] grandchildren but to the community

[3:49] because we know that um when you uh lose

[3:52] someone like who has been active like

[3:54] Jim um they're really sorely missed. So,

[3:57] our condolences. The arrangements are

[4:00] entrusted with Iran and there is um a

[4:02] visitation on Thursday. So, for those

[4:05] that are um interested in in attending

[4:09] um so residents will not have been able

[4:12] to miss the construction going on at the

[4:15] water tower. And something that, you

[4:17] know, we don't often worry too much

[4:19] about in Brockville because of the large

[4:21] water source that we have in the St.

[4:23] Lawrence River is conservation. but we

[4:25] still have to put it through our

[4:26] distribution center system. So, um we're

[4:29] certainly calling on residents during

[4:31] the time where the water uh towers out

[4:34] of commission to exercise water

[4:36] conservation. So, in everything that you

[4:38] do, that means turning the tap off when

[4:40] you're brushing the teeth. It means um

[4:42] delaying uh uh lawn watering and pool

[4:46] filling certainly until um off uh peak

[4:49] hours. and um you know things like

[4:52] running the dishwasher and that uh if

[4:54] you would do that in the evening when

[4:56] there's less demand for water that will

[4:58] help us get through and make sure that

[5:00] there's a stable source of water um

[5:02] during this during this time that the um

[5:05] tower is being worked on. We heard um at

[5:08] our uh general committee about the

[5:11] brothel art center being in need of

[5:13] volunteers uh in the last week. So, I

[5:16] just wanted to make that appeal from the

[5:17] chair to say that um you know, it's fun

[5:21] to be involved at the Brockville Arts

[5:23] Center and they're um they are actively

[5:26] in need of um of new new volunteers and

[5:30] there's lots of different roles there.

[5:32] So, please contact them if you have an

[5:34] interest.

[5:35] It is uh construction season. And I've

[5:38] certainly um you know had some calls

[5:40] about the disruption to um traffic on

[5:42] Hartley Street because of the work going

[5:45] on the west end of uh King Street. Uh

[5:48] there's not a lot that we can do about

[5:50] that. I mean people have to get where

[5:52] they're going and they have to get there

[5:54] in one way or another. If you're going

[5:55] downtown, that's probably the natural

[5:57] route. But um uh just wanted to say that

[6:01] the work is scheduled to be completed um

[6:04] uh in by the end of September. And

[6:06] that's uh good news. Other good news on

[6:09] the construction front is that the work

[6:11] on the William Street overpass is um

[6:14] ahead of schedule and that uh we

[6:17] anticipate that that bridge may be open

[6:20] for traffic by Labor Day weekend. So

[6:22] fingers crossed that things keep going

[6:24] well, but um that's uh that's

[6:27] considerably ahead of what they thought

[6:29] it would be and I think we're all

[6:31] looking forward to when we can start um

[6:34] using that bridge again. So, um, thank

[6:37] you for that. Um, adoption of council or

[6:42] I'm sorry, uh, disclosure of interest.

[6:45] Anybody got anything?

[6:48] » Seeing none,

[6:49] » Madam chair.

[6:51] » Yes,

[6:51] » Sir. I just wanted to just mention one

[6:53] thing. I know this is a little off the

[6:54] offline, but this past weekend there was

[6:57] also the DEFA festival that took place

[6:59] at the Rotary Park. It was the 8th

[7:01] annual um festival for do it for Aaron

[7:05] and the funding for that went towards

[7:07] the musical institute and lending

[7:09] library that provides musical

[7:11] instruments and lessons for children in

[7:13] the community and uh it was the eighth

[7:15] event. They had four great local bands

[7:17] and I it was a good event. I just didn't

[7:19] want to let this go by without you know

[7:21] congratulating them again for the

[7:23] efforts that are put in and for the

[7:25] services that they provide in the in the

[7:27] city as well. So, I just wanted to uh I

[7:29] wanted to thank the Stevenson family for

[7:31] continuing on with this event. It's a

[7:33] great part of our community.

[7:35] » Absolutely. Um that's I really

[7:37] appreciate you u raising that, councelor

[7:39] Derry. Um you know, these festivals that

[7:42] start with grassroots um uh groups are

[7:45] so important to the vibrancy of our

[7:48] community during the summer. So, yes,

[7:50] congratulations to Willie and his

[7:52] family. And um again, thank you for

[7:54] bringing it up. And while we're on the

[7:56] uh the subject, then we should also

[7:58] mention that we don't think we have a

[8:00] council meeting before um Ribfest and

[8:03] that's coming up the weekend after the

[8:04] civic holiday. So mark your um mark your

[8:08] calendars. It's a three-day event um

[8:11] this year in Hardy Park. Always uh a

[8:14] wonderful time and you'll be able to

[8:16] smell that it's uh that it's here in

[8:18] town and uh it's a great event for a

[8:21] great cause. So, um please uh mark your

[8:24] calendars for that as well. And again,

[8:26] councelor Deiri, thanks for um thanks

[8:29] for jumping in there.

[8:30] » Um

[8:32] adoption of uh council minutes.

[8:34] Councelor Calivas, uh would you move

[8:36] those and councelor Hobbs, would you

[8:38] second? Thank you.

[8:40] » Thank you. Uh it's moved that the

[8:41] minutes of the council meeting of June

[8:43] 24th, 2025 be adopted and circulated as

[8:46] read. And by a show of hands, all those

[8:49] in favor?

[8:52] Thank you. That's carried. Um

[8:54] correspondence. Councelor Earl, will you

[8:57] move the appointments to boards and

[8:58] committees? And councelor Deiri, would

[9:00] you second?

[9:03] » Yes, I will. Yes.

[9:04] » Thank you.

[9:06] » Okay. Do you want me to read them or you

[9:07] just Okay.

[9:08] » Yes. the appointments of boards and

[9:09] committees which would be the heritage

[9:11] committee that Lucas Michaels

[9:14] resignation from the municipal heritage

[9:16] committee be accepted and the necessary

[9:18] bylaw be enacted.

[9:20] » Thank you. All those in favor

[9:23] and that's carried. Thank you. Um

[9:26] delegations uh we have with us um uh

[9:28] this evening guests from uh our

[9:31] neighboring municipality of Prescott and

[9:34] uh they're representing the St. Lawrence

[9:36] Shakespeare Festival. We have uh Jay

[9:38] Wallace and we have uh um Jay Nish

[9:42] Lepedus uh with us tonight to talk about

[9:45] the Shakespeare Festival and welcome to

[9:47] our chambers.

[9:49] » Thank you. Um uh yes, hi everybody. Um

[9:54] uh thank you for having me. My name is

[9:56] James Wallace. I'm one of the co-artic

[9:58] directors of the St. Lawrence

[9:59] Shakespeare Festival in Prescott,

[10:00] Ontario. I'm here representing the

[10:02] festival, although there are great many

[10:04] of people who make the festival happen,

[10:06] including um my partner and co-artic

[10:08] director, Julia Nishlapus, who is not

[10:10] here tonight because she's currently

[10:11] taking care of our three-year-old

[10:13] daughter. Um so, uh also our general

[10:16] manager, Ingred Borgensson, our

[10:17] volunteers, including our wonderful

[10:19] board of directors. There is a wonderful

[10:21] board of director uh here, Peter Martin,

[10:23] former board of director, Judy Martin.

[10:25] Wonderful supporters. Uh, and finally,

[10:26] the world-class artists who come to the

[10:28] festival every summer who are currently

[10:29] ready to preview Sherlock Holmes and The

[10:31] Vanishing Hour tonight at the

[10:33] amphitheater. The final group that is

[10:35] essential to the sustainability and

[10:36] longevity of our company is our patrons

[10:38] uh, who come for the festival every year

[10:40] to see plays in our majestic

[10:41] amphitheater right on the St. Lawrence

[10:43] River. Our patrons come from all across

[10:45] Eastern Ontario, including Ottawa,

[10:47] Kingston, and the surrounding area,

[10:49] including many from Brockville. The St.

[10:51] Staint Lauren Shakespeare Festival is

[10:52] entering its 23rd season and we see this

[10:55] as an opportunity to reach out to new

[10:57] patrons with an exciting chance to

[10:58] discover our wonderful festival as well

[11:00] as to continue to serve our existing

[11:02] audience base. This is why I'm here

[11:05] today to represent the company to

[11:07] introduce myself on behalf of the

[11:08] artistic team uh with Julia as well and

[11:12] to implore you to lend your voice to

[11:13] support the festival as a regional

[11:15] tourist destination. I want to be clear

[11:18] that the support we are looking for

[11:19] today is not monetary. Our hope is to

[11:22] have the region take at large take

[11:23] ownership of this festival as we work to

[11:26] shift the perspective of it from a

[11:28] Prescott festival to a regional tourist

[11:30] attraction. Uh we believe we have a

[11:33] mutually beneficial opportunity between

[11:34] Brockville and our festival to support

[11:36] enhance and maintain both of our growths

[11:38] as we weather everchanging landscape of

[11:41] tourist trends, funding and audience

[11:43] interest. And this is going to be fun to

[11:45] do. Here we go. Nice.

[11:48] The St. Lawren Shakespeare Festival is a

[11:50] leader in culture and an ongoing source

[11:51] of pride within Eastern Ontario. We, as

[11:54] a cultural institution, are a beacon of

[11:56] professional performing arts, community

[11:57] engagement, and a driver of economic

[11:59] development and tourism in the region.

[12:01] We endeavor for excellence in all areas

[12:03] of impact, striving to bring joy,

[12:05] enrichment, and thoughtprovoking

[12:07] experiences to patrons, volunteers, and

[12:09] participants from all across the region,

[12:11] province, and beyond. Last year,

[12:14] approximately 49% of our audience were

[12:16] from Brockville and the surrounding

[12:17] area. We hope to beginning a new

[12:20] partnership between our festival in this

[12:21] town in this town will continue to grow

[12:23] that number and inspire new visitors

[12:24] from all over this region.

[12:28] As an evening at theater, uh an evening

[12:31] at the theater, pardon me, is one of

[12:33] possibility. It's an opportunity to let

[12:35] your imagination explore new ideas,

[12:37] worlds, and situations and learn

[12:39] something about yourself or the world

[12:41] around you. When people talk about what

[12:43] they value most in their lives, the arts

[12:45] is always at the top of the list. Music,

[12:46] literature, film, TV, and theater. Yet,

[12:49] the arts are severely underfunded and

[12:51] often only accessible for a people of

[12:53] certain means. It is imperative that the

[12:56] patrons of the theater and and the

[12:58] surrounding community feel welcome and

[12:59] encouraged to engage with this festival

[13:01] and to know the arts are for everyone.

[13:04] We do this through a variety of

[13:05] programs, including our TD Kidsgree

[13:08] program, which allows youth aged 14 and

[13:10] under to attend the productions at no

[13:12] cost, making it accessible for families

[13:14] who may be not otherwise be able to

[13:16] expose their children to the theater. We

[13:18] also offer a pay what you can

[13:20] performances and in general, no one is

[13:22] turned away. If someone wants to join us

[13:23] and experience what we have to offer,

[13:25] they are invited to the fold.

[13:27] All of these programs geared to bringing

[13:30] more families of all kinds to our

[13:32] theater are available to people within

[13:33] the region, including those who are

[13:34] located in Brockville.

[13:38] The St. Lauren Shakespeare Festival is a

[13:40] place where the highest possible

[13:41] standards of artistic excellence are

[13:42] achieved by producing professional

[13:44] productions in magnificent natural

[13:46] surroundings while encouraging the

[13:47] greatest possible level of in community

[13:49] involvement. Our mission is to inspire

[13:52] Eastern Ontario communities through

[13:53] unforgettable and uplifting professional

[13:54] theatrical experiences. We are one of

[13:57] the only classical theaters in the

[13:59] region. Therefore, it is upon us to

[14:00] build exciting worlds with old plays,

[14:04] especially through the work of

[14:05] Shakespeare, but we are always thinking

[14:07] beyond the bard, finding other

[14:09] electrifying words to worlds to explore

[14:11] through the themes and ideas that his

[14:12] work brought to the fold. We have a

[14:15] vision to be the foremost outdoor

[14:16] theater destination in Eastern Ontario,

[14:18] known for artistic excellence,

[14:20] educational outreach, and commitment to

[14:21] inclusivity. We aspire to create a

[14:23] cultural landmark that attracts

[14:25] audiences from near and far, fostering a

[14:27] deep appreciation of the performing arts

[14:29] and enriching the cultural and economic

[14:30] fabric of our region.

[14:33] We have recently completed a strategic

[14:35] planning session working to specify our

[14:37] goals and structures in planning for the

[14:39] present and future. We created some

[14:41] concrete strategies going forward as

[14:43] well as compete uh completing our

[14:44] mission vision values for our festival.

[14:46] I wanted to share the core values we

[14:48] identified during this session so that

[14:49] you have a clear understanding of the

[14:51] values guiding our work. Artistic

[14:53] excellence to deliver highquality

[14:55] captivating productions to ensure each

[14:56] performance is a testament to the

[14:58] enduring power of theater. Community

[15:00] engagement to actively involve and

[15:02] connect our community to foster strong

[15:04] lasting relationships and shared

[15:06] experiences. Collaboration to work with

[15:08] local artists, organizations, and

[15:10] businesses to create a vibrant creative

[15:11] force. Education to provide educational

[15:14] opportunities that deepen the

[15:15] understanding of our theater through

[15:16] public programs. Inclusivity to welcome

[15:19] to create a welcoming environment for

[15:21] all ensuring diverse voices and

[15:23] perspectives are represented and

[15:24] celebrated both on stage and off.

[15:26] Innovation to embrace fresh ideas and

[15:29] approaches to push the boundaries of

[15:30] what theater can be. Sustainability to

[15:33] ensure the long-term viability of the

[15:35] festival by managing resources

[15:36] effectively and responsibly.

[15:41] As artists, we are always striving for

[15:43] an ideal, something that people can

[15:45] connect to and motivate them to per to

[15:47] find purpose, passion, and joy within

[15:50] their day-to-day world. Our ideal for

[15:52] our ideal is for an enjoyable,

[15:54] stimulating, and surprising adventure,

[15:56] one that can only be experienced with

[15:58] live theater. As Shakespeare wrote, we

[16:00] ask our patrons and audience to awake

[16:03] their faith. By which we mean, we

[16:05] encourage you to unleash your

[16:06] imagination to its fullest reach. We

[16:09] know that your a partnership between

[16:11] Brockville and the festival will help

[16:13] make us the valued and ubiquitous

[16:14] component of summer that we need to be

[16:16] in this region. We know that we can all

[16:18] benefit from the permanence and

[16:19] amplification of a healthy, openhearted

[16:21] and vigorous artistic institution like

[16:23] the St. Lawrence Shakespeare Festival.

[16:26] I'm very excited uh to be here to let

[16:28] you know as well what we're doing this

[16:29] summer. Uh, our 2025 mainstay season

[16:32] begins actually on Saturday and we'll

[16:34] open another show on tomorrow. Uh, with

[16:36] Much to Do About Nothing by William

[16:38] Shakespeare. This hilarious story of

[16:39] gossip, love, betrayal, and mistakes

[16:41] will be set in the 1980s. It's a really,

[16:43] really great soundtrack. Uh, and it's

[16:45] set in a small town like many in this

[16:47] region with lots of fun to keep the

[16:49] audiences laughing all night. And

[16:51] repertoire with much ado is Sherlock

[16:52] Holmes and the Vanishing Hour, a new

[16:54] play based on the classic Sherlock

[16:55] Holmes character set along the St.

[16:57] Lawrence River. Holmes comes to Canada

[16:59] to solve a case where he meets a nurse

[17:01] named Joan Watson. The two go on an

[17:03] adventure that is both thrilling that is

[17:05] thrilling, surprising, and entertaining.

[17:07] Our mainstage season runs currently is

[17:09] currently running from July 18th to

[17:10] August 9th. Finally, our summer festival

[17:13] ends with a remount of our hugely

[17:14] successful production of PlayOn, a

[17:16] Shakespeare inspired mixtape originally

[17:18] created for and receiving a soldout run

[17:20] at the Stratford Festival of Canada.

[17:22] This cabaret charts Shakespeare's

[17:23] influence on pop music through history.

[17:25] This fun and exciting evening of music

[17:27] features songs by Elton John, Taylor

[17:29] Swift, the Beatles, and many more.

[17:31] PlayOn runs one week from August 12th to

[17:33] the 16th. And at the end of this summer,

[17:36] we will be doing our annual community

[17:38] show, which I think some people know

[17:40] many participants in today, uh, which

[17:42] this year is a musical comedy called

[17:44] Songs on the River, which will use songs

[17:45] and a heartwarming story to celebrate

[17:47] the vitality, fun, and joy of living on

[17:49] the mighty St. Lawrence. Uh this year we

[17:51] have over 40 participants from age 6 to

[17:54] 70 from all over the region including

[17:56] Brockville. Our community show runs for

[17:58] three shows August 22nd and 23rd. All

[18:01] tickets for our shows can be purchased

[18:02] online at the St. Lawren Shakespeare

[18:03] festival.ca or pardon me I should say

[18:05] staint lord Shakespeare shape

[18:07] lordshakespeare.ca.

[18:10] We hope that you will join us this

[18:11] summer in order to see firsthand what

[18:12] we're talking about in regards to the

[18:14] magnetic thrill of the amphitheater, the

[18:15] artists and the community coming

[18:17] together to support.

[18:19] In closing, I would like to thank you

[18:21] for having me again here tonight. Julie

[18:23] and I both cherish the opportunities to

[18:24] get to know people of this region. We

[18:26] are from Toronto. Uh so coming here

[18:28] every summer with our daughter is a huge

[18:30] lift and we are always uh incredibly

[18:33] glad to do that by meeting people in

[18:35] this gorgeous settings and amazing

[18:37] stories that happen here. We feel very

[18:39] lucky to produce theater in this region.

[18:41] We hope that you will join us in our

[18:43] continued work to enrich the lives of

[18:45] wonderful residents in our region and

[18:46] take ownership of this festival as a

[18:48] truly regional beacon of tourism

[18:49] opportunities and cultural distinction.

[18:52] We can't wait to see you at the theater.

[18:54] Thank you very much.

[19:01] » Well, thank you so much for coming uh

[19:03] this evening. I think that you know uh

[19:06] we've been talking about tourism uh in

[19:08] in the city for you know ever

[19:12] » And we've been talking about campus

[19:14] approach and certainly Prescott is part

[19:16] of our campus. When you succeed, we

[19:18] succeed. So I I think you know uh it's

[19:21] it's a great idea for you to be here

[19:23] tonight to talk to us and uh and

[19:25] hopefully uh garner some um publicity

[19:28] for what you're doing and also some

[19:30] support from uh those of us that are

[19:32] here to hear you. um to hear you speak

[19:34] about it. Um your presentation certainly

[19:37] reminds me of my days attending G

[19:40] University and we got to go to um

[19:42] Stratford and the a number of

[19:44] productions and uh it's a wonderful

[19:46] experience, but I can't think of any

[19:48] nicer stage than what you have in

[19:50] Prescott with the river as your

[19:51] backdrop. It's just uh absolutely

[19:54] gorgeous.

[19:54] » It's by far the most beautiful place to

[19:56] watch theater in the country. So when we

[19:58] got the job last year, that was one of

[19:59] our pitches like we just want to be here

[20:01] to do theater here. So yeah, it's yeah,

[20:03] it's it's so pretty and I can just

[20:04] imagine even on the warmest uh summer

[20:06] night uh with the breeze off the river,

[20:09] I'm sure that it's very comfortable and

[20:11] uh it it looks like a it will be a very

[20:14] wonderful experience. Um have we got uh

[20:17] questions, comments? Yes, Councelor

[20:19] Hobbes. Thanks, Madam Chair. Um and

[20:22] thanks so much uh Mr. Wallace for being

[20:24] here. That's fantastic. I'm just

[20:26] wondering if you have been interfacing

[20:28] with our tourism team in the city or if

[20:32] that's planned.

[20:33] » Uh I would love to. I've had certain

[20:35] talks with some within the Thousand

[20:36] Islands region about that. Um on our

[20:38] board is Diana Clark who worked um

[20:40] within many different facets of of of

[20:43] this city and many other ones. Um her

[20:45] husband Steve Clark is very supportive

[20:48] of our uh of our festival. Um, I would

[20:50] like to have as many opportunities as I

[20:52] can um to speak to anybody because I

[20:54] think this is what we're hoping to do is

[20:56] push into the idea that tourism is for

[20:58] us all. That Prescott will benefit just

[21:00] as much as Brockville will. Uh, so my

[21:03] hope is to talk to more people. We're a

[21:04] small team. It's basically me, Jules,

[21:06] and uh our our our general manager

[21:09] Ingred. So there's opportunities to talk

[21:12] in the offseason, too, because we are

[21:13] kind of going this year, but this to me

[21:15] is a great opportunity thinking forward

[21:17] to next year and beyond. Um, as of 2027,

[21:20] it's our 25th anniversary, which is I I

[21:22] can't tell you enough, like for a

[21:23] theater to last 25 years is pretty

[21:25] amazing. So, uh, the fact that we're

[21:28] getting here, getting through a

[21:29] pandemic, coming out of that, and being

[21:31] able to, uh, to still put on the best

[21:34] professional theater in my opinion, in

[21:35] the region is a very big thing. But yes,

[21:37] more more talking with those people

[21:39] would be lovely because they're much

[21:40] more bigger experts at this than I am. I

[21:42] can tell you a lot about Shakespeare,

[21:43] but not so much in tourism development.

[21:45] So,

[21:46] » Thanks. That's great. and

[21:47] congratulations on the number of years

[21:49] you've been operating.

[21:50] » Thank you very much. Sorry, it looked

[21:52] like somebody that was weird. Thank you

[21:54] very much, Councelor Hobs. I apologize.

[21:56] Oh, that was just I got a little

[21:57] » Weird. Did

[21:59] » I just Thank you very much uh for the um

[22:02] for the presentation tonight. I've uh

[22:05] enjoyed going to the Shakespeare

[22:07] Festival uh for as long as I've been a a

[22:10] theatergoer. And uh it's neat to have

[22:13] such high quality highc caliber theater

[22:15] uh in the region. and people from Ottawa

[22:18] talk about it as well because that's

[22:20] that's very common. Like I've been in

[22:22] Shakespeare festival audiences before

[22:24] where you'll be sitting next to someone,

[22:26] oh yeah, we drove down from from Ottawa

[22:28] uh for for the night. So um it's uh it's

[22:31] known and I I hope that it'll only

[22:33] become more known and you're taking the

[22:35] right approach by uh by trying to go

[22:37] with the the regional uh regional campus

[22:40] uh efforts to to draw more people to the

[22:42] area.

[22:43] » Absolutely. And just uh be careful

[22:44] because sometimes people who visit from

[22:46] Toronto stick around.

[22:47] » Well, yeah. I mean it's it's beautiful.

[22:50] Like we don't got anything like this in

[22:51] Toronto. So uh I always go down the two

[22:53] and it's like everybody's like, "Oh,

[22:54] it's so slow in the two." And I'm like,

[22:56] "But it takes 25 minutes to get anywhere

[22:58] in Toronto." So like it's all good. But

[23:00] yeah, like we have audiences from

[23:01] Ottawa, Kingston, from Ogdensburg, the

[23:03] United States all the time. We have lots

[23:05] of audiences from Toronto, um throughout

[23:07] the province. what we're trying to do is

[23:09] guide that towards telling the region

[23:11] that that benefits them as well. Um and

[23:14] not just make it a Prescott thing. So

[23:15] yeah, I agree and um the Ottawa

[23:17] connection is fantastic. So yeah.

[23:20] » Yeah. Councelor Lebert,

[23:24] » Thank you so much. Uh, Chair Bullerton,

[23:28] um, it it really speaks that you're

[23:30] someone from like coming out from

[23:32] theater because you're one of the person

[23:34] that has doing a presentation that could

[23:36] not use a microphone. It would be

[23:39] perfect. You know, you have like the

[23:40] vocal for it. So, thank you so much. Um,

[23:44] just an idea and a thought, maybe

[23:46] contacting the downtown BIA as well. Um,

[23:50] they have uh some shop the street event.

[23:53] » Yes,

[23:53] » People are welcome. groups are welcome

[23:56] to set up a tent and do some promotion.

[23:58] So maybe there's people in Brockville

[24:01] that don't know about the festival and

[24:04] it could be a good opportunity for you

[24:07] and some volunteers to be there. I know

[24:09] that their next event is August 12th.

[24:12] » Okay.

[24:12] » And from a promoter to another promoter,

[24:15] I'm also hosting the Twilight Tuesday

[24:17] Makers Market. It's going to be at the

[24:19] end of your season because it's uh

[24:21] August 19.

[24:22] » Okay. But if it's a Tuesday night, if

[24:26] you wants to come between in between

[24:28] like 4 and 7 PM and maybe distribute

[24:32] flyers,

[24:33] » I would love that. Yes.

[24:34] » Well, you're more than welcome.

[24:35] » Thank you very much. I I'll find out

[24:37] contact for that. That's great. Yeah,

[24:38] these are all great things going

[24:40] forward, right? Like we're talking about

[24:41] this season and beyond. Uh we have been

[24:43] at markets uh the farmers market a

[24:45] number of times last summer. We were at

[24:46] the Tall Ships Festival with a booth

[24:48] this year speaking to people from

[24:49] Brockville. Um, yeah, and we did find a

[24:52] lot of people go, "Yeah, I know all

[24:53] about this." And some people are like,

[24:54] "I've been here for 20 years and I don't

[24:56] know what you're talking about." So, uh,

[24:58] letting people know and that's always a

[25:00] good thing. So, absolutely, we'll take

[25:01] you up on that that night night,

[25:05] » Not the nightmare on Christmas.

[25:06] » Oh, no, no, it's okay.

[25:07] » Twilight Tuesday.

[25:08] » Twilight Tuesdays. That was close,

[25:10] right? So, absolutely. That's great.

[25:11] Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[25:14] » Well, that's wonderful. Uh, yes, Cathol.

[25:18] Well, actually last Tuesday night or was

[25:21] that Tuesday night? Saturday night I

[25:23] under false pretenses I thought I was

[25:25] going to a political meeting called

[25:27] bunch of do about nothing and and I

[25:29] ended up at your your your theater.

[25:32] » Yeah, it's great.

[25:33] » Where at uh and uh everything people

[25:36] have said is it's a lovely venue on the

[25:38] St. Lawrence. They uh is uh always a

[25:42] nice cool breeze off of there and

[25:44] there's always somebody like your board

[25:46] of director Peter selling losing 5050

[25:49] tickets. Uh but uh the the the time was

[25:53] lovely down there and the uh the the

[25:56] play was most interesting. Shakespeare

[25:58] always is.

[25:59] Whether you're in the uh Shakespeare

[26:02] part of the of the Stratford or whether

[26:06] you're in Prescott or whether you're in

[26:07] the the Shakespeare Theater at the

[26:09] National Arts Center.

[26:10] » Absolutely.

[26:11] » And uh um I certainly enjoyed it and uh

[26:15] I obviously can't make your performance

[26:16] tonight.

[26:17] » That's okay.

[26:19] » But uh I will try and catch uh catch up

[26:22] to that at some point in time here. And

[26:24] uh and you know, it's not just your

[26:26] theater. It's theater all over Eastern

[26:29] Ontario. The um the uh Playhouse in

[26:33] Morrisburg, the for Canada Playhouse,

[26:36] and the the uh again Playhouse are, you

[26:40] know, there there's, you know, if you're

[26:41] a theatergoer in this area, there's an

[26:44] immense number of opportunities to to go

[26:46] to catch good theater and good

[26:48] entertainment and and usually good

[26:51] dining out before or after. So quite

[26:54] enjoyable and and thank you for what you

[26:57] do putting that that uh those those

[26:59] plays on down there. They were most

[27:02] entertaining.

[27:02] » Thank you for being with us. Yeah. And

[27:04] to speak to the theater thing, not only

[27:06] Thousand Islands Playhouse, which is not

[27:07] far in Ganon, Morrisburg, but also

[27:09] there's an immense amount of community

[27:11] theater that goes on in this in this

[27:12] region and not only the Brockville

[27:14] Operatic Society, which we now have

[27:16] connections with many times, but it's uh

[27:18] the theater is is ubiquitous in

[27:20] communities like this and that's what's

[27:21] very important to us. uh whether it be

[27:23] outside at the amphitheater doing

[27:24] Shakespeare or doing Matilda, it doesn't

[27:26] matter. Like I I'll take anybody going

[27:27] to the theater. That's great. Um because

[27:30] it is a collaboration. It's a community

[27:31] collaboration between the people on

[27:33] stage and the patrons who are watching

[27:34] the show. So thanks for being there.

[27:36] Yeah, theater can be political

[27:37] sometimes. Much to do is you could take

[27:40] it to be political, but yeah,

[27:41] absolutely.

[27:43] » Yeah, exactly. Well, that's what it is,

[27:44] right? Absolutely. Absolutely.

[27:48] Well, thank you so much for coming uh

[27:50] this evening and we hope that you get

[27:52] some some spin from absolutely from from

[27:55] uh being here. You know, I certainly

[27:57] noticed uh we were driving down Highway

[27:59] 2 on the weekend and we noticed uh uh

[28:02] how full uh the the uh motel just

[28:06] outside of town was. And um you know,

[28:09] we've always sort of talked about this

[28:11] is that we have to publicize what there

[28:13] is for people to do once we get them

[28:15] here. And um you know the uh certainly

[28:18] the Shakespeare festival is part of what

[28:20] um is is what make is going to um make

[28:23] people come back and absolutely it's

[28:25] great if we work together.

[28:27] » Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah. It's

[28:28] it's all just for us about not only the

[28:29] practical like whatever whatever support

[28:31] comes in that practical way but also

[28:33] about the philosophical approach of that

[28:35] this is all of our festival. It's not

[28:37] just Prescott's festival. It's

[28:38] everyone's festival to do just that.

[28:40] It's like go to stay at that hotel, go

[28:42] to that restaurant, see the play. So, I

[28:44] think we're all on the same page with

[28:45] that. Absolutely.

[28:46] » Absolutely. Well, thank you and we wish

[28:48] you uh the best of luck with your season

[28:50] and we hope it's um it's very uh

[28:53] successful and that your um your troop

[28:57] uh continues. 25 years, that's a lot. I

[28:59] know it's a it's a great great uh

[29:01] landmark. Yeah.

[29:02] » Thank you for having me. I am going to

[29:03] jet out because I've got to get to the

[29:04] show at 7, but thank you so much for

[29:06] having me everybody. I very much

[29:07] appreciate it. Nice meeting you all.

[29:09] » Good night.

[29:12] We have um a uh consent agenda and we

[29:16] have a regular agenda for the um um

[29:20] planning uh committee. Councelor

[29:21] Calivas, would you take the uh consent

[29:23] agenda and councelor Leverne, would you

[29:26] um uh second, please?

[29:28] » Yes. Thank you.

[29:30] » Uh thank you. Um so we've got two items

[29:34] on the uh consent. Uh so all matters

[29:37] listed under consent agenda are

[29:38] considered to be routine and will be

[29:40] enacted by one motion should a council

[29:42] member wished an alternative action. The

[29:45] proposed recommendation the council

[29:46] member should Relle request that it be

[29:48] removed. So is there any councelor

[29:50] wishing the first and second items to be

[29:54] removed? Not hearing or seeing.

[29:56] » None. Um it's that the uh report uh

[30:00] 2025119

[30:02] King Street West water main

[30:04] reconstruction phase 2 be received for

[30:05] information and that the um main pumping

[30:09] station designed that the increase of

[30:11] $132,863.96

[30:14] including HSD to the engineering

[30:17] services contract with consultant JL JL

[30:21] Richards for the main pumping station

[30:23] design due to changes in project scope

[30:26] and requirements as outlined below be

[30:28] approved.

[30:33] » I think that's it.

[30:34] » Okay. So, uh we'll call the question.

[30:38] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter

[30:40] before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you

[30:41] vote?

[30:42] » Yes.

[30:43] » Councelor Earl?

[30:44] » Yes.

[30:45] » Councelor Hobbs?

[30:46] » Yes.

[30:46] » Councelor Calvas?

[30:48] » Yes.

[30:48] » Councelor Leverne?

[30:52] Oh,

[30:54] yes. Thank you. Councelor

[30:56] Wales.

[30:57] » Yes.

[30:57] » And Chair Person.

[30:59] » Yes.

[30:59] » That's carried. Thank you.

[31:01] » Um moving on to the regular um agenda.

[31:06] Uh

[31:06] » I'll Yeah. So um we can u Madam Chair,

[31:10] we're just going to switch the names a

[31:12] little bit and I'll have um it does it

[31:14] does say consent agenda, but we're

[31:16] obviously just going to call it what it

[31:17] is and just uh read it off. Uh but I

[31:20] will have councelor Wales move it and I

[31:22] will second it. U as there is a a minor

[31:25] amendment that's going to be put on by

[31:27] councelor Wales as well and so and so

[31:30] forth. So very good with that I'll

[31:32] second it.

[31:33] » Okay. Thank you.

[31:35] » Thanks. All right everybody settle in.

[31:38] Uh so this is 2025-127

[31:40] proposed amendments to the official plan

[31:42] and zoning bylaw for 107 to19 King

[31:44] Street West. that official plan

[31:46] amendment number 35 respecting lands

[31:48] described as lots 87 to 89 90 part of

[31:51] lots 82 to 84 86 and 91 to 93 together

[31:55] with an unnumbered lot 30 plan 67 being

[31:59] parts 1 2 and part of lot 3 on 28R 5445

[32:03] together with part three on 28R13791

[32:07] city of Rockville known municipally as

[32:09] 107 to19 King Street West be amended to

[32:12] redesate the property from downtown and

[32:14] central waterfront area within the

[32:16] mixeduse node. Subject to main street

[32:18] area policies, continuous street

[32:20] frontage policies, and source water

[32:22] protection considerations to downtown

[32:24] and central waterfront sight specific

[32:26] policy area within the mixeduse node

[32:29] subject to main street area policies,

[32:31] potential intensification site policies,

[32:33] and source water protection

[32:34] considerations. Identify a maximum of

[32:37] six stories within the skyline

[32:38] development area and permit a maximum

[32:40] angular plane of 59 degrees on Home

[32:42] Street. that zoning bylaw 050 2014 be

[32:46] amended to reszone lands described as

[32:48] lots 87 to 89 90 part of lots 82 to 84

[32:51] 86 and 91 to 93 together with an

[32:54] unnumbered lot 30 plan 67 being parts 1

[32:58] 2 and part of lot 3 on 28R5445

[33:02] together with part three on 28R13791

[33:05] city of Brockville known municipally as

[33:07] 107 to19 King Street West from mixed uh

[33:11] MD mixeduse downtown zone in part and MW

[33:14] mixeduse waterfront zone in part subject

[33:16] to minimum twostory building height at

[33:18] street edge policies maximum building

[33:20] height six-story policies in part

[33:23] maximum building height four-story

[33:24] policies in part continuous street

[33:26] frontage policies minimum ground floor

[33:28] height policies for King Street

[33:30] intermittent street frontage policies at

[33:32] home street and source water protection

[33:34] considerations to H6 MD mixeduse

[33:37] downtown special exception zone subject

[33:39] to minimum two-story building height at

[33:41] street edge policies

[33:42] continuous street frontage policies,

[33:44] intermittent street frontage policies,

[33:46] and source water protection

[33:47] considerations to allow development of

[33:49] the property for a mixeduse building

[33:51] containing 128 apartment dwellings and

[33:54] to establish sight specific development

[33:56] standards. That the mayor and clerk be

[33:58] authorized to enter into a cash in lie

[33:59] of parking agreement with the owner to

[34:01] require cash in lee of parking for 39

[34:03] parking spaces in the amount of $6,000

[34:06] per space for a total of $234,000.

[34:09] that a vacant land appraisal be

[34:11] submitted for the property prepared by

[34:12] an accredited appraiser and that 2% cash

[34:15] in lie of parkland be paid to the city

[34:17] based on the appraised value provided

[34:19] prior to the execution of a site plan

[34:20] control agreement and that the chief

[34:22] planning officer be authorized to remove

[34:24] the H6 holding zone provision upon

[34:26] execution and receipt of any funds

[34:28] required under the cash in le of parking

[34:30] agreement and that the necessary bylaws

[34:32] be enacted. So I wonder if before the

[34:34] amendment we could just get a very brief

[34:36] overview of what this is. I know not

[34:38] everybody uh can make it to the the

[34:40] planning meetings and be good just to

[34:42] get a brief overview of the project.

[34:44] » Yes.

[34:44] » Yeah. Good.

[34:46] » Uh through you, Madam Chair. So um about

[34:51] a month and a half ago, we had a public

[34:52] meeting concerning proposed amendment to

[34:54] zoning bylaw and the official plan for

[34:56] 107 to 119 King Street West for a new

[35:00] mixeduse

[35:02] proposal. Um the original proposal did

[35:06] receive amendments between the public

[35:08] meeting and the recommendation meeting.

[35:10] So what I'll do is I'll go through what

[35:12] was originally requested and then what

[35:14] was proposed at the recommendation

[35:16] meeting and then ultimately accepted by

[35:18] planning and development to move forward

[35:20] to this floor. Um we won't go through

[35:23] the official plan itself because it it

[35:26] remained the same except for the angular

[35:28] plane um which the details itself

[35:32] I'll get into with the zoning part. So,

[35:35] the original zoning request that did go

[35:38] through to the public meeting uh was to

[35:41] reszone the property to allow a

[35:43] six-story building containing

[35:46] approximately 140 residential units with

[35:49] commercial on the ground floor. Uh the

[35:51] reason why we required a zoning

[35:53] amendment is we don't allow residential

[35:55] on the main floor. Uh that was one of

[35:58] the amendments specific. Uh there was

[36:00] parking, angular plane requirements,

[36:03] um children's play area reductions that

[36:06] were being being requested. Uh so

[36:08] specifically the special exceptions

[36:10] requested at the public meeting was to

[36:12] increase the continuous street frontage

[36:14] setback from 0ero to 1.2. So what that

[36:17] is is we require all the buildings,

[36:20] sorry, our official plan and zoning

[36:22] require all the buildings along King

[36:24] Street to be built at a zero setback.

[36:28] They actually requested to increase that

[36:30] to 1.2

[36:32] to match the building next door. So two

[36:35] for one and manpower

[36:37] uh which actually increases the public

[36:39] realm. We'll deal with the applicant. I

[36:41] explained it last week at uh planning

[36:43] and development that we deal with the

[36:45] applicant on who would maintain that

[36:46] portion because it's actually going to

[36:48] increase the size of the sidewalk, who's

[36:50] going to look after that, etc. But we'll

[36:52] deal with the applicant or the owner at

[36:54] that time regarding that. Uh increase to

[36:58] the maximum intermittent street

[36:59] frontage. So this is along home street.

[37:01] They're looking to increase it from 1.2

[37:04] to three to set the building back a

[37:06] little more which did provide

[37:12] more height allowance in the angular

[37:14] plane even though they still came

[37:16] forward for a request

[37:18] uh reduction of the minimum rear yard.

[37:20] The original request was from 6 mters to

[37:22] 1.8. I explained that that was a staff

[37:26] error last week. Uh it should have been

[37:29] 6 m or 50% of the height of the building

[37:32] which was 10.5. So it should have

[37:34] originally been 10.5 down to 1.8.

[37:38] Through negotiations, however, um with

[37:42] the applicant,

[37:43] we actually uh the applicant agreed to

[37:46] remove the last two units and associated

[37:49] underground parking off of each floor

[37:52] and increase the reard setback to 9.8

[37:54] mters. So, the request is actually 9.8

[37:58] from 10.8 or 10.2, sorry, rather than

[38:02] down to 1.8. So, the increase to the

[38:05] rear yard is from Water Street.

[38:10] Uh the increase to the angular plane was

[38:12] 45 degrees to 53 degrees at Home Street.

[38:16] Uh as explained last week and through

[38:18] the report under the recommendation, it

[38:20] was actually taken at the wrong spot. So

[38:23] our angular plane requirement is the

[38:25] entire facade of the building. The

[38:28] angular plane number was taken at King

[38:30] and Home and should have been taken at

[38:32] the south end of home. the number

[38:36] changed from 53 to 59 degrees.

[38:40] Um staff did explain though that we

[38:42] don't believe a recirculation's

[38:43] required. The concept that was seen at

[38:45] the public meeting did not change other

[38:48] than actually increasing the rear yard.

[38:50] So the angular plane actually is a

[38:52] little less than 59. Uh we didn't

[38:55] require a new number to be supplied

[38:56] though because of that

[38:59] increase to the rear yard.

[39:02] uh they're looking for a reduction in

[39:03] the minimum loading space required from

[39:05] one to zero. Uh that's just due to our

[39:09] requirements based on size. We require a

[39:12] minimum of 3.5 m wide by 9 m deep with a

[39:18] vertical clearance of 4.5 and they're

[39:21] not sure if they can accommodate that

[39:24] within the building. They will be

[39:26] supplying or looking to supply, sorry,

[39:29] not saying will, looking to supply

[39:31] loading, just not at our size

[39:33] requirements. So, they won't be putting

[39:35] transports in there. They'll be using

[39:37] more cube bands or things that won't

[39:40] meet our size. So, they asked for that

[39:41] reduction.

[39:43] Uh they're looking the original request

[39:44] was for a reduction in parking from 153

[39:47] to 113

[39:50] due to the loss of units or reduction in

[39:55] units. Uh the minimum parking required

[39:57] is now 142. They're looking at supplying

[40:00] 103.

[40:02] They're also looking to decrease the

[40:04] minimum ground floor height from 4.5 m

[40:06] to 3.35.

[40:09] permission to locate residential on the

[40:10] ground floor as I had mentioned and

[40:12] relief to not require the children's

[40:14] play area due to the proximity to Hardy

[40:16] Park. Uh staff however did put forward a

[40:19] recommendation for both the parking cash

[40:21] andloo and also cash inlark land uh to

[40:25] maybe look at other locations for

[40:27] parkland space or increasing what's

[40:30] available at Hardy Park and also

[40:33] increasing our funds to look for parking

[40:35] elsewhere. Um, we know that parking is

[40:38] in demand downtown and a lot of places

[40:41] are asking for reductions, but uh, we

[40:43] need to build that fund to look for

[40:45] parking elsewhere.

[40:47] » And I understand through discussions

[40:50] that some neighbors on Apple Street were

[40:52] concerned with the sideyard setback. Um,

[40:55] the sideyard setback itself. So that's

[40:57] I'll I'll explain the yards. So I'll

[41:00] start with King and home because that's

[41:03] where the confusion lies under

[41:04] definitions. When you have two street uh

[41:07] two street frontages that have bought a

[41:08] property, the shortest frontage of the

[41:11] two becomes your front yard.

[41:14] The opposite is the exterior sideyard

[41:17] and then based on definition, the

[41:19] opposite of your front yard is your rear

[41:21] yard. The other on this property would

[41:24] be an interior sideyard.

[41:27] So when the amendment did come forward,

[41:29] I understand some residents were cons or

[41:32] were confused. They believed that that

[41:35] was the rear yard increase from 1.8 to

[41:37] 9.8

[41:41] when actually the interior sideyard

[41:43] remained the same. It was proposed at

[41:45] 1.8. It remains at 1.8. Yes, it abuts

[41:49] their rear yards,

[41:51] but based on our definition, it's an

[41:53] interior sideyard, which our requirement

[41:55] is actually zero. We want all the

[41:57] buildings along King to abut each other.

[42:01] Um the applicant is actually proposing

[42:02] 1.8 eight all along the property line.

[42:06] So even at King um to gain access to

[42:09] interior courtyard that they have so

[42:11] people could come off King or residents

[42:13] of the building could come off King to

[42:16] access that interior courtyard.

[42:18] Um if anyone has questions about the

[42:21] specific amendments, I'd be happy to

[42:23] answer them.

[42:25] » Any anyone questions?

[42:29] I understand councelor

[42:32] um Wales that you have a small

[42:34] amendment.

[42:36] » I do. So thanks very much uh Mr.

[42:38] McInness for the for the overview. Um I

[42:41] had also heard uh some some of those

[42:42] concerns from uh from residents and

[42:44] obviously were uh were limited with um

[42:47] uh the the exceptions that um uh sorry

[42:50] not the exceptions uh but with the the

[42:53] requirements uh that we can impose on a

[42:55] on a developer. um there's not much that

[42:57] we can impose that's beyond uh what's

[42:59] already on the property. However, uh in

[43:02] the zoning for the property, however,

[43:04] what's been proposed in the project uh

[43:07] maintains that um minimum setback of 1.8

[43:10] m for the interior sideyard. Uh as of

[43:12] right now, it's only 0 m uh in the

[43:16] zoning bylaw. So my proposed amendment

[43:19] uh would read that uh uh there be an

[43:22] increase to the minimum interior

[43:24] sideyard setback from 0.0 meters to 1.8

[43:28] m which is what's called for in the

[43:30] plan. This is just about making sure

[43:32] that what's proposed is matching what's

[43:34] going to be included uh in the the

[43:36] zoning bylaw. Uh so I hope I would have

[43:39] the support of uh of council on that

[43:41] amendment. I'll write it up and bring it

[43:43] over to the clerk. Uh, but if there's

[43:45] any questions, um, uh, Mr. McInness

[43:48] might be able to type.

[43:52] » Um, I'm sorry.

[43:54] » Yes. Can we have a seconder on the

[43:56] amendment?

[43:57] » Got councelor Hobbs.

[43:58] » Councelor Hobbs. Yeah.

[44:01] Um, Councelor Earl, did you comment?

[44:05] » Yeah. Um, I was speaking with councelor

[44:09] Wales uh prior to the meeting and

[44:12] although I don't have any specific

[44:15] um objections to making the the sideyard

[44:20] wider, but I understand that it's a on

[44:24] the side that would abut the rear of the

[44:27] houses on on Apple Street.

[44:31] So my question is is is not an aesthetic

[44:34] or a political question

[44:38] at 1.8 8 m is about 6 feet give or take

[44:42] a little bit for some of the metric and

[44:44] some of us are not the so in a sixft

[44:48] thing down there and if it's a sidewalk

[44:50] that means there's going to be an old

[44:52] foundation of the building

[44:55] to the rear of it on Apple Street

[44:58] and a new foundation of the new building

[45:02] on that encompasses the rest of the

[45:05] block

[45:06] and so it doesn't come down to an to a

[45:10] aesthetic question or a political

[45:12] question. I I guess what I was wondering

[45:14] was is when I'm starting to put two

[45:17] foundations 6 feet apart and having to

[45:20] drain the water out of that because uh

[45:22] you know even city council can't make

[45:24] water flow uphill.

[45:26] um

[45:29] you know uh just what that meant

[45:31] engineering wise to to the project as

[45:33] opposed to you know the setbacks and

[45:36] stuff because that would you know if we

[45:39] look at King Street all the buildings

[45:41] are right up against each other so

[45:43] there's you know they don't erode each

[45:45] other's foundation the building the of

[45:49] some many of the buildings that are

[45:51] along

[45:52] uh home street or or Apple street are

[45:55] they're not new buildings. They're old,

[45:57] old buildings. And I just want to make

[45:59] sure that, you know, when we're

[46:02] opening up sideyards and we're opening

[46:04] up access for moisture to go in those,

[46:06] that we aren't indeed eroding some of

[46:08] the old foundations, you know, we think

[46:11] we're doing a good thing making space in

[46:12] there, but would we be doing a bad thing

[46:15] eroding their foundations and and then

[46:18] leaving only six feet for someone to go

[46:20] in and try and put a new foundation in?

[46:22] So, so it's not a it's not an aesthetic

[46:25] question. I don't have a problem with

[46:26] having the six feet in there, but I I I

[46:29] think before we pass this, we should ask

[46:31] an engineering question whether it's a

[46:33] good idea, have six feet of open space

[46:36] in there and where the water from that's

[46:38] going to go and it won't go in the

[46:40] foundations of the the buildings on

[46:42] Apple Street and stuff. So, I I think

[46:44] there, you know, aesthetic wise, I don't

[46:47] have any issues with it, but I' I'd like

[46:49] to make sure I'm not building in an

[46:51] engineering problem.

[46:55] Mr. McGinness, do you have

[46:57] » Uh three, Madam Chair, I'm not an

[46:59] engineer, so I can't specifically

[47:01] address that. Um I believe what

[47:03] councelor Wales is looking to propose is

[47:07] a minimum setback. That may increase

[47:10] once the final design does come forward.

[47:13] Um,

[47:16] one thing they could do, there's

[47:18] swailes, there's drainage they could run

[47:20] along that. They could possibly go

[47:23] through the foundation and tie into

[47:24] their existing system in the parking

[47:26] lot. Um, I can't answer. I'm not an

[47:29] engineer.

[47:30] » Yeah.

[47:30] » Um,

[47:30] » We're not there yet.

[47:32] » There's It'll be done at the site plan

[47:34] design stage where our engineers will

[47:36] look at it. Um, but in today's age, you

[47:40] can engineer anything.

[47:42] » Yeah. Yeah. So

[47:45] » I I mentioned it because I know of at

[47:46] least one problem on King Street where

[47:49] new building an old building a butt and

[47:51] water going into the old building's

[47:53] basement and and you know the the person

[47:56] going to gain the biggest advantage over

[47:58] that it's going to be the lawyers to

[47:59] settle it. So um I was hoping that

[48:03] getting the engineering before we do

[48:05] this would prevent the uh legal action

[48:09] in the future. So that that that's the

[48:11] that's the intent of of the question and

[48:14] and why I would like not to, you know,

[48:17] » Run off willy-nilly without uh without

[48:20] » You'll bring it up again when we're at

[48:22] site plan approval.

[48:24] » Yeah. Well, I think it, you know, if

[48:27] there's six feet in between, I think it

[48:29] might might be a good thing for building

[48:31] maintenance, but if it causes the water

[48:34] to to stay in there and go into

[48:36] somebody's basement, then well, that

[48:37] could be a bad thing.

[48:38] » Yeah. Understood. Yes.

[48:40] » May I? So, just the um the uh I just

[48:44] wanted to note the applicant is in the

[48:46] gallery. Uh and I wonder if we could

[48:48] hear from them because my intent here is

[48:50] just to recognize what's called for in

[48:52] the plan that's been proposed in the

[48:54] zoning bile. There's no change. Uh so, I

[48:57] just wonder if if with the consent of of

[48:59] council, we could hear confirmation uh

[49:01] from from the applicant that you know

[49:03] what's uh what's being proposed that 1.8

[49:06] back is okay.

[49:08] No. Yeah, please.

[49:12] » Thank you. I'm I am an engineer. Uh so

[49:15] this will be dealt with at site plan

[49:16] control. Uh this is just a storm water

[49:19] management issue for uh any water that

[49:21] uh isn't uh captured already inside the

[49:23] building. Uh so all the rain runoff is

[49:26] what your your concern is. Uh those six

[49:28] feet uh will likely have storm water

[49:31] management control systems that will

[49:32] direct the water instead of down. it'll

[49:35] go around and into a uh either the

[49:38] municipal, you know, already storm water

[49:40] system or our systems and then pump it

[49:42] back out. Uh this will be dealt with uh

[49:45] at that point. We don't want to erode

[49:46] our own foundation

[49:48] » Uh and uh and andor our underground

[49:51] parking

[49:52] » Uh which will likely already have some

[49:53] type of way to control water runoff. So

[49:56] the act the space actually allows us to

[49:58] better deal with it quite frankly.

[50:00] » Yeah.

[50:01] » Thank you. Perfect. Then yeah, it's just

[50:02] again it's residents said, you know,

[50:04] they've got walls, they've got rears of

[50:06] their own buildings. I think it would

[50:08] provide some some comfort that, you

[50:10] know, this is in the zoning bylaw moving

[50:12] forward.

[50:12] » Yes. Yes.

[50:15] » Yes. So, um I I wonder if we can get Mr.

[50:19] um McGinness to comment on the

[50:21] amendment.

[50:26] » Sure. Through you, Madam Chair. Um

[50:29] increasing the sideyard setback

[50:32] no concern from us. Um the only

[50:37] thing that I can see is

[50:40] by imposing that it takes away the

[50:43] applicant's ability if they wanted to

[50:47] to build it directly abuing the manpower

[50:51] building at the front. So you will see a

[50:54] gap along King Street if you do impose

[50:57] that.

[50:58] » Yes. And in in terms of our city

[51:01] aesthetics, we just assume not have

[51:04] alleyways if we had our DRS.

[51:08] » That that is why we do have a zero

[51:11] minimum sideyard. We don't we don't make

[51:13] them build it at zero. Otherwise, it

[51:15] would be maximum of zero.

[51:17] » Yeah,

[51:17] » We have a minimum of zero. So, it would

[51:19] still be meeting it.

[51:21] » But if the applicant did decide at the

[51:23] design stage to move it over, that's no

[51:25] longer a possibility.

[51:27] » Yeah. So if the

[51:30] So if we get down the road and it's site

[51:33] plan like we'd have to come back here

[51:35] and change the rules if the applicant

[51:38] decided

[51:40] whereas the way it's written right now

[51:43] we wouldn't have to do anything. It's at

[51:46] his option because it's just simply says

[51:49] um uh minimum and we wouldn't have to

[51:54] there'd be no hurdles.

[51:56] Yes, please.

[51:57] » Uh, three, Madam Chair. I do know that

[51:59] the applicant though does want a

[52:01] staircase, which we already see there go

[52:04] leading into the parking lot

[52:05] » Um for their residents to access the

[52:07] courtyard to get into their units rather

[52:10] than using the front of the building.

[52:11] » Yeah.

[52:11] » If they wish to.

[52:14] » Yes. You're you're pretty sure they're

[52:15] going to want it.

[52:16] » Yes.

[52:17] » Yes. Yes. All right.

[52:22] » Any Yes, please. Just I'll ask if if

[52:24] that is a concern, is there a way to

[52:26] word the amendment that we're just

[52:28] talking about the properties at the

[52:29] back? Because again, that is where the

[52:31] concern comes from, right? That there

[52:33] are stone walls in the lower half of of

[52:35] of Apple Street. Although again, I

[52:38] haven't specifically heard from uh the

[52:40] the owner of the building at the front

[52:41] of King Street. Maybe they don't want

[52:43] their buildings touching either. I'm not

[52:45] sure. So, I think this is just about

[52:47] codifying in the zoning bylaw. are we

[52:50] going to see built what we're getting uh

[52:52] in the proposal that we're seeing during

[52:54] the zoning uh review process which I

[52:56] think is important. I think a building

[52:58] of this size probably shouldn't move

[53:00] over um you know 2.4 meters and um again

[53:04] 1.8 is minimum right it is larger in

[53:06] some places and at the alley I think it

[53:08] is called to be larger it's 2 point uh

[53:11] people

[53:12] » So from your perspective your your

[53:14] amendment gives some comfort to some of

[53:17] the concerns that the residents have as

[53:19] well that there were residents that are

[53:21] concerned that they're going to have

[53:24] this new structure abuing their um their

[53:27] own property

[53:28] » That's been my reading of it and again

[53:30] it's just about making sure that what we

[53:32] have had proposed is what we're going to

[53:34] that if there were a new property owner

[53:36] down the road, somebody wanted to change

[53:38] that that they would have to come back.

[53:40] » Yeah. Thank you.

[53:41] » Okay. Okay. Any other uh questions or

[53:44] comments? Um yes, councelor Earl.

[53:46] » Yeah, I I just wanted to thank uh you

[53:49] for your for your answer because we

[53:51] already have one acquitarium in

[53:52] Brockful. I didn't want to start a new

[53:54] one. So

[53:58] So thank you for your answer.

[54:00] » Okay.

[54:03] Uh any other questions or comments

[54:05] related to the amendment?

[54:08] Okay, seeing none, we'll call the

[54:10] question on the amendment.

[54:11] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the amendment

[54:12] before you, councelor Deiri, how do you

[54:14] vote?

[54:15] » Yes.

[54:15] » Councelor Earl,

[54:19] » Yes.

[54:20] » Councelor Hops,

[54:21] » Yes.

[54:22] » Councelor Calvas,

[54:23] » Yes.

[54:23] » Councelor Leverne,

[54:24] » Yes.

[54:26] » Councelor Wales,

[54:27] » Yes.

[54:27] » And Chair Fullerton,

[54:28] » Yes.

[54:29] » That's carried. Thank you.

[54:30] » Okay. Thank you. So then moving on to

[54:32] the um uh to the motion. Uh questions or

[54:36] comments related to the motion as

[54:39] amended?

[54:41] Seeing none. Oh yes, councelor.

[54:46] Not another amendment. Uh but just to to

[54:49] thank uh all the residents who

[54:50] participated in the process. Again, uh I

[54:52] know that it's uh uh sometimes

[54:54] intimidating to come to council and uh

[54:56] speak your your voice and and put

[54:58] forward your concerns. Um, I hope that

[55:00] uh um you know, obviously uh some

[55:05] residents uh didn't get everything that

[55:07] they were looking for from the amended

[55:09] proposal, but I did appreciate that

[55:11] there was an amendment to the rear uh uh

[55:13] sideyard to make the building footprint

[55:15] a little bit smaller. Uh so, it's a

[55:18] potential compromise for for the

[55:20] neighborhood, but I'm excited about the

[55:22] project and I hope that it will go

[55:23] forward. Yeah, I think there's a quote

[55:25] to that effect that, you know, you got a

[55:27] good deal when, uh, everybody had to

[55:29] give a little bit, nobody's 100% happy.

[55:32] I will say though, um, in terms of the

[55:35] city, um, we're happy. That's a that's

[55:38] been a property that's been

[55:40] underutilized

[55:42] um for you know and it always was uh

[55:45] commercial and uh a vibrant corner and

[55:49] uh and then suddenly uh because of that

[55:52] catastrophic fire um empty and empty for

[55:55] decades and decades uh you know since

[55:58] since ' 65. So, um, this is an exciting,

[56:03] uh, project for us. 128, uh, living

[56:07] units for the city of Brockville. Very,

[56:09] very important. We need them. Um, you

[56:14] know, so, you know, we just wish we wish

[56:16] the applicant every success with getting

[56:19] it built and getting it built quickly

[56:21] because, um, I think it's going to be

[56:23] very good for our downtown uh, core to

[56:25] have that many people um, uh, additional

[56:28] people living there. That's great for

[56:30] business. That's that's really good for

[56:32] everything uh in Brockville. So, um uh I

[56:36] think it's a very exciting project and

[56:38] uh you know, thanks for um investing in

[56:41] Brockville. It's a great thing for us.

[56:43] Yeah. Um are there any other questions

[56:46] or comments before we call the question?

[56:49] Seeing none, we'll call them.

[56:51] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter

[56:52] before you, Councelor Deir, how do you

[56:53] vote?

[56:54] » Yes.

[56:55] » Councelor Earl?

[56:57] » Yes.

[56:57] » Councelor Hobbs? Yes.

[56:59] » Councelor Calvac.

[57:00] » Yes.

[57:01] » Councelor Leverne.

[57:02] » Yes.

[57:03] » Councelor Wales.

[57:04] » Yes.

[57:04] » Chair Fullerton.

[57:06] » Yes.

[57:06] » That's carried. Thank you.

[57:09] » Thank you. Um uh moving on. And u please

[57:13] don't feel don't feel that you're being

[57:15] rude if you leave the if you leave the

[57:17] the uh the meeting. We're not offended

[57:20] by that at all.

[57:21] » Thank you very much. Appreciate the

[57:22] support.

[57:23] » Thank you. Um, so moving on to the

[57:27] general committee. Uh, councelor Deiri,

[57:29] would you move the motion and councelor

[57:32] uh, Hops, would you second? Yes. Thank

[57:34] you.

[57:36] » Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. The general

[57:38] consent uh, sorry, general meeting

[57:40] consent agenda, all matters listed under

[57:42] consent agenda are considered to be

[57:43] routine, will be enacted by one motion.

[57:46] Should a council member wish to an

[57:48] alternative action from the proposed

[57:49] recommendation, the council member shall

[57:51] request that this matter be moved.

[57:53] separated the item uh that the following

[57:56] items as listed on the general committee

[57:57] are recommended by the committee to be

[58:00] passed by consent agenda. Was anything

[58:02] needed to be removed?

[58:06] » Seeing none.

[58:14] » Um I'm sorry, Madam Chair. Which ones

[58:16] did you want me to read through?

[58:18] » Um uh one through five, please.

[58:20] » 1 through five. 2025-124

[58:23] budgetary control policy amendments at

[58:25] policy PF uh20.181

[58:28] budgetary control policy be updated and

[58:31] outlined in report 2025-124.

[58:34] Number two is 2025125

[58:37] procurement policy amendment. The

[58:39] procurement policy uh PLF20139

[58:43] be updated as outlined in report

[58:45] 2025-125.

[58:47] 2025-132

[58:49] July 2025 variance report that report

[58:52] 2025132 July 2025 variance report be

[58:56] received. Item 2025133

[58:59] is the airport terminal design that

[59:01] additional project expenses in the

[59:02] amount of 4511 be approved and funded by

[59:06] reserves to complete the airport

[59:07] terminal engineering design capital

[59:09] project in accordance with the results

[59:11] of public tender 250054.

[59:14] And lastly number five information item

[59:17] 2025130 which is the Reynolds Park

[59:19] Pavilion tender update. This report is

[59:21] for information purposes only.

[59:25] bill and we'll call a question.

[59:28] » Thank you. On the matters before you,

[59:30] Councelor Jerry, how do you vote?

[59:31] » Yes.

[59:32] » Councelor Earl,

[59:33] » Yes.

[59:33] » Councelor Hobs,

[59:34] » Yes.

[59:35] » Councelor Calabas,

[59:36] » Yes.

[59:36] » Councelor Leverne,

[59:37] » Yes.

[59:38] » Councelor Wales,

[59:39] » Yes.

[59:40] » Chair Fullerton,

[59:41] » Yes.

[59:41] » Carrie, thank you.

[59:43] » Moving on to uh new business. Um th this

[59:47] is the part of the agenda where those um

[59:49] committee those council members that sit

[59:51] on committees have an opportunity to

[59:53] bring a report and if there's nothing

[59:56] new since our our last meeting that's

[59:59] completely fine. So we have um the BMAC.

[1:00:03] So uh councelor Hobbs anything new?

[1:00:05] » No nothing new on that.

[1:00:06] » No thank you. Uh uh Katarok Way

[1:00:10] Conservation Authority.

[1:00:14] The next meeting is in August. So, yeah.

[1:00:16] » Okay. Very good. Uh St. Lawrence Lodge,

[1:00:20] uh Councelor Calabas,

[1:00:22] » Nothing to report at this time.

[1:00:23] » Yep. Thank you. Uh the the library, I I

[1:00:28] can say that there's nothing um new

[1:00:31] since the last report, unless you want

[1:00:34] to highlight some more summer programs.

[1:00:35] Councelor Wales,

[1:00:36] » Everybody should get a library card and

[1:00:38] go take advantage of the summer

[1:00:39] programs. And uh we're meeting next

[1:00:41] week, so we might have something uh at

[1:00:43] the next council meeting. Thank you.

[1:00:45] » Oh, we should mention that now they do

[1:00:47] have their schedule out for renting of

[1:00:49] meeting rooms. So I think that's

[1:00:51] important if you're looking for meeting

[1:00:53] space. It's still a good deal.

[1:00:56] » Good catch. Thank you. Yes. Yes. I

[1:00:58] » I would add that there are other

[1:01:00] information sources than Facebook.

[1:01:05] » Absolutely. Um the uh the um DBIA

[1:01:12] councelor Derry, is there anything?

[1:01:14] » Just the u update again. I think it was

[1:01:16] mentioned earlier that Saturday, August

[1:01:17] 16th from 10 to 4 is the next shop the

[1:01:20] street event. It's called a fairy tale

[1:01:23] fantasy. So I hope that we can get a

[1:01:24] good turnout. We had a really good

[1:01:26] turnout at our last one in July. So hope

[1:01:28] for uh another one of those great great

[1:01:30] days and hopefully the weather will

[1:01:32] cooperate.

[1:01:33] » Thank you. Um, so moving on, there's no

[1:01:36] unfinished business. The bylaws are um

[1:01:40] are in the agenda and can be uh read

[1:01:42] there. So for the reading of the bylaws,

[1:01:45] councelor Calivas, um would you read

[1:01:47] them and read the motion and councelor

[1:01:50] Leverne, would you second?

[1:01:52] » Yes. Thank you.

[1:01:54] » Thank you. uh that bylaws numbered 058

[1:01:57] uh 2025 to 063 2025 be introduced and

[1:02:00] the same now be read a first second

[1:02:02] third time signed by the mayor and clerk

[1:02:04] sealed with the seal of the corporation

[1:02:05] and be recorded.

[1:02:06] » So uh all those in favor

[1:02:09] that's carried. Thank you. Media

[1:02:11] question period.

[1:02:14] » Uh thank you and through you madam

[1:02:15] chair. I just had one question about the

[1:02:17] next steps for the dailies lot. I was

[1:02:19] just wondering what's what's kind of

[1:02:20] coming next for um for that project.

[1:02:23] Great. Could you take that one?

[1:02:27] » Certainly. Through you, Madam Chair, to

[1:02:30] uh the press. Um, so now there's a 20 or

[1:02:34] sorry, after Friday, there will be a

[1:02:37] 20-day appeal period uh where specified

[1:02:40] persons, municipality, ourselves, the

[1:02:43] applicant could appeal to the Ontario

[1:02:45] Land Tribunal if they wish. Uh if

[1:02:47] there's no appeal after 20 days, then uh

[1:02:50] the applicant could apply for site plan

[1:02:52] control, which can take anywhere from 14

[1:02:56] days to

[1:02:58] however long because once they submit

[1:03:01] drawings, we may send them back for

[1:03:03] amendments. Then it's in their hands. So

[1:03:06] timing on that, we never know. um after

[1:03:09] site plans executed and cash and move

[1:03:12] parking, cash and move park land are

[1:03:14] executed, they could apply for a permit.

[1:03:18] So hopefully next spring, I'm sure they

[1:03:21] wouldn't start this fall. That's

[1:03:23] probably not not enough time for them,

[1:03:25] but next spring probably hopefully we'll

[1:03:27] see something.

[1:03:30] » Great. Councelor Wales,

[1:03:31] » I just wonder if Mr. Lawless could

[1:03:33] identify himself uh for the for all the

[1:03:35] folks at home and

[1:03:36] » Oh, yes, please. Oh yes, my first

[1:03:38] Brockville Council meeting. Uh, I'm

[1:03:39] filling in for Ron Zjac, who's on

[1:03:41] vacation. My name is John Lawless and

[1:03:43] I'm a reporter with the Recorder in

[1:03:44] Times.

[1:03:46] » Nice to meet you in person. We have

[1:03:48] spoken.

[1:03:50] Welcome.

[1:03:52] Um, confirmatory bylaw. Councelor Earl,

[1:03:55] would you read that? And councelor

[1:03:57] Wales, would you second?

[1:03:59] » I will.

[1:04:00] » Thank you.

[1:04:02] That bylaw number 064-2025

[1:04:05] to confirm the proceedings of council at

[1:04:08] its meeting held July 22nd 2025 be read

[1:04:11] a first a second and a third time signed

[1:04:15] by the mayor the clerk and seal will bal

[1:04:18] the corporation and be recordings.

[1:04:20] » All those in favor that's carried uh

[1:04:24] motion to adjurnn. Councelor Calivas

[1:04:26] will you move that and councelor Deiri

[1:04:28] would you second? I will.

[1:04:31] » Thank you.

[1:04:32] » Thank you. It's uh moved that council

[1:04:34] adjourn his proceedings until the next

[1:04:35] regular meeting scheduled for August

[1:04:37] 19th, 2025.

[1:04:41] » All those in favor?

[1:04:43] That's carried. Thank you everyone.

Council - 22 Jul 2025

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