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Good evening and welcome to the council
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meeting of Tuesday, August 25th, 2026.
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We will begin with our land
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acknowledgement statement. We would like
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to acknowledge the land on which we meet
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today. For thousands of years, it has
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been the traditional land of the
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Alangquin nation. Today, this meeting
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place is still the home to many
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indigenous people, and we are grateful
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to have the opportunity to live and work
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on this land. Thank you.
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» Uh good evening everyone and welcome to
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our council meeting. Uh I'm I'm uh
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sitting in this evening for uh um uh his
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worship. Uh as you're all aware, a
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couple of weeks ago um our mayor had a
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mild uh stroke. Uh he's uh recovering
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very well at home. I spoke with him at
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length this afternoon about um uh the
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agenda uh tonight and also um he wanted
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me to convey uh uh to you as a council
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but also to the citizens uh his
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gratitude for how kind everyone's been,
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the various supportive messages that
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he's received and and all the kindness
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and certainly again to reiterate um how
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grateful uh he is to the staff at the
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Brockl General hospital and to the
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emergency responders who um were so uh
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important in making sure he's um come
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out of this and going to uh have a full
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recovery. So um he sounds uh really
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good. He said a little bit fatigued, but
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other than that uh very upbeat and very
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interested in what we're um doing here
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and wanted to um make sure that a few of
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the things that are coming through
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tonight that he could have his um input
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into that. So, um, anyway, wanted to say
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just, you know, thank you so much and
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we're all, uh, you know, so grateful
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that he's had such a, um, marvelous
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outcome to, um, to the incident that
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he's encountered. And it speaks to the
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support that a few years ago we gave to
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the Brockville General Hospital. And I
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remember when we when we were talking
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about that, you know, I was saying that
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at any time any citizen in this city
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could need the services of the Broville
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General Hospital. So I think it really
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is important that when they when they
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need help from their municipality that
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we do step up and this council uh did
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and I'm proud that we did. But this is
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um this just sort of shows you when it
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hits very close to home as part of our
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team that these services are very needed
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and um you know uh just uh wonderful
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that we have the the facility that we do
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and the excellent care that we're able
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to receive um right here in Brockville.
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So uh it's it's excellent.
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Um
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he wanted me to mention a few things but
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I'm going to mention it later under uh
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the item about the um uh the crosswalk
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because he was very instrumental in
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bringing that initiative uh forward. So
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he had just had a little bit of
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background um on that that he wanted to
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make sure that was uh shared in um at
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the at the council meeting. Uh so the
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other thing that's happened this week of
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course is that the nomination period
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closed for the upcoming election
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and because um we're going to be in a
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minority in terms of returning officers
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100% for um for sure um I mean it could
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be a full turnover of uh of council. the
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electors of course will decide but uh we
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will be going into lame duck and I've
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asked the city manager if she'd just
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take a minute and explain um uh to
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everyone what the impact of lame duck
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is.
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» Thank you through you madame chair. Uh
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so lame duck situation is encountered in
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a municipality when less than 75% of the
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current council may be returning. So in
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our case it's seven. So we know we have
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far less than seven incumbents running
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in this next election. So that does put
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us in a lame duck or restricted acts uh
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period. So under the restricted acts in
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the municipal act there's a couple of
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things that are four things actually the
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there means that the appointment or
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removal from office of any officer of
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the municipality. So meaning the the
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clerk, the uh treasurer, the chief
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building official, uh myself as city
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manager, those things cannot happen, but
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I'll talk about how it can happen or may
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need to happen. the hiring or dismissal
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of any employee of the municipality.
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The disposition of any real uh or
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personal property and uh
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yes, the disposition of property which
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has a value exceeding $50,000
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and making any expenditure or incurring
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any liability greater than $50,000. So,
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of those four things, I'll just fill you
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in on how each of them can be handled
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during this lame duck period. With
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regard to the appointment or removal
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from office of any officer of the
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municipality in our case in the city of
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Brockville, the only officer that is
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hired or fired through council is the
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city manager's position. So, everything
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else including all the other employees
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are under my authority to hire and or
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fire. So that has been delegated
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previously through my job description
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and other means. So that will continue
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as it needs to happen in the next few
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months. With regard to the disposition
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of property, uh we don't foresee any
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property needing to be uh disposed of in
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the next peri next little period of
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time. But if something should happen
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that it becomes necessary, then I have
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been delegated authority in order to be
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able to manage that process. And that's
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the same with any other experience uh
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expenditures or incurring liability
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greater than $50,000 that is not in the
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budget. So, for example, if we had an
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emergency and we had to to expend
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greater than $50,000, I have that within
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my authority to make those uh purchases
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or incur those liabilities. So,
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in other words, we're going to continue
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pretty much as normal for the next few
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months. And when the new council is
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installed on November 15th, there will
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be will be little to no changes uh other
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than the the people that will be in this
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room. So hope if I'd be happy to answer
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any questions if there are any.
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Otherwise uh that's the explanation.
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» Yeah. Very very good. If the media has
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any questions um please um uh we'll we
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would handle that at the end of the
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meeting. But is there anybody on the
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council floor that has a question for
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the city manager about the lame duck
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period? Seeing none, we'll move on. Uh
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disclosure of uh pecuniary interest.
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Seeing none. Uh adoption of council
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minutes. Uh, councelor Calivas, would
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you move those and councelor Severson,
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would you second?
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» Thank you. Uh, it's moved that the
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minutes of the council meeting of July
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28, 2026 be adopted.
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» Uh, thank you. And I see councelor Earl
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has also just uh joined us um via Zoom.
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Uh,
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any questions or comments? Seeing none,
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uh, by show of hands, all those in
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favor? That's carried. Thank you.
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Correspondence and communications.
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Councelor Wales, I wonder if you would
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put the first appointments to boards and
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committees uh motion on and councelor
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Hobbes, would you second?
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» Thank you, Madam Chair. So, uh this is
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appointments to boards and committees
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regarding the aquitarium that the
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resignation of Barry Moss and Larry
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Journal from the aquitarium board be
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accepted and that councelor Fullerton
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and councelor Deiri be appointed to the
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aquitarium board and that the necessary
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bylaw be enacted. And I just wonder if I
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could say a few words of sincere uh
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thanks and appreciation uh to both Barry
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Moss and Larry Journal uh for their long
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service uh on the Aquitarium board. Um I
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have always appreciated their insights
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at the table and and Barry certainly his
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leadership uh in the chair's position.
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So they're both deeply missed but uh
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wished well after a a deserved
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retirement from the board. Uh and of
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course my thanks to uh you for stepping
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into the board at this time and also uh
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Phil for for stepping in as well. Thank
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you.
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» Yeah, great. Um yeah, happy to help and
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uh yeah, I would echo those sentiments.
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Certainly both those uh gentlemen have
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served on the aquitarium for quite some
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time and have done some things that are
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um have been u very instrumental in
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making the equatorium a success. So well
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yes, they have our our thanks for sure.
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Um, any other questions, comments?
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Seeing none, by a show of hands, all
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those in favor? Carried. Thank you. Um,
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item number two, councelor Deiri, would
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you put that on the floor? And councelor
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Hobbs, would you second? Thank you.
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» Will, Madam Chair, uh, item number two
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is a downtown Brockville photo op trail
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and full hearts and full shelves
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initiative, the downtown Brockville
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business improvement area. uh that the
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letter of intention related to the
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downtown Brockville photo op trail and
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full hearts and full shells initiative
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be received and that the letter of
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support be provided by city council for
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inclusion in the grant funding
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application.
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» Yes. Uh do you want to add anything to
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that? Um councelor Jerry I know you sit
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on
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» D. Yeah. I al I think it's one of these
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uh situations where people often forget
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um that many of us are very fortunate
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and uh to be able to provide some
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necessary meals for a lot of people in
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the community who are or may be
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struggling. Um I always like to remind
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people that we generally do this over
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the Christmas holidays, but it it you
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know the the food insecure food security
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issues that we have don't just happen at
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Christmas, they happen all year round.
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And so if you want to um if you're
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thinking of ways to give, this is a
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great way to do it. We have food drives
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that go on as well. So this is just one
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other tool we have that we can help very
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vulnerable part of our community. So I'm
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happy to put this on the
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» Yeah. Yeah.
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» I think both these things are wonderful
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initiatives. I like the idea of the um
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of the um um photo op um locations as
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well. Um my daughter and her family have
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just been on an extended uh tour and uh
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so many uh countries and cities have
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different um specifically set up um
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places in their towns to go to uh to
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have a picture taken so you know exactly
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where you've been and uh I think this is
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a great idea for our our downtown core
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and I'm sure we'll bring people down to
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um uh yeah to visit us so that'll be a
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good thing. Any other questions or
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comments related to the motion? Seeing
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none, um, by show of hands, all those in
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favor?
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Carried. Thank you. Uh, item number
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three, uh, Councelor Wales, would you
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put that on the floor? And councelor
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Sepherson, would you second? Thank you.
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» Thank you, Madam Chair. Integrity
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Commissioner's annual report, July 2025
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to July 2026 from the Office of the
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Integrity Commissioner that Council of
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the Corporation of the City of Brock
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receive the Integrity Commissioner's
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annual report for information.
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» Great. Thank you. Um, as the report
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states, this is a uh um an annual thing
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that um every year we have to have a a
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report. It isn't that there's any
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unusual activity. It's that um every
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year the integrity commissioner um makes
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the report um about um what the
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complaints were and what the activity
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was in that particular file. Are there
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any questions or comments?
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Seeing Seeing none, we'll call a
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question. All those in favor?
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That's carried. Thank you. Um, moving on
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to staff reports. Councelor Calivas,
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would you put the first item on and
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councelor Deiri, would you second?
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» Thank you. who would uh move that the
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fire protection grant, fire hall, bunker
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gear separation and contamination
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control, that the fire chief be
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authorized to prepare and submit an
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application to the province of Ontario
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for the fire protection grant to support
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the renovation of a section of the main
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floor of fire station number one.
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» Um, thank you. Are there any questions
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or comments related to the report?
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Yes.
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» I just wonder if we could get a brief
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overview from
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» Certainly. Thank you.
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» Through you. Um the Ministry of Labor
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had put forth cancer prevention
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guidelines for uh firefighters because
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they are very at very high risk for
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cancer. Generally, they're about I think
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it's 25 to 30% more likely to die of
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cancer than general uh population. So,
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these Ministry of uh labor guidelines
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are what we're supposed to be having in
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the fire halls that will give the basic
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minimum protection to control
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contaminants. Uh every time they're in a
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fire or even at a a car fire, some of
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that that stuff comes back to the hall
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and it's on their gear. So, that's why
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they have to have two sets of gear so
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they can wash one and still have another
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to respond. The problem is if it comes
[14:12]
back to the hall and it's just sitting
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in the back bay without being contained,
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then those contaminants are coming off
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and infecting anybody that comes into
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its path. So, as you know, our newest
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hall is over 30 years old and our oldest
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one's 116
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years old. So, the uh the modern uh flow
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of contamin decontamination is not
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there. So, this is a small step, but
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it's a fairly important one to be able
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to provide a barrier and negative
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pressure so that the the gear can go in
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there, the contaminants can be taken out
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and not exposed to the rest of the
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firefighters.
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» Yeah. Thank you. Yes, Councelor Wells.
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» Thanks very much. Thanks, Chief. And um
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glad to hear that there's a a a grant uh
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program available uh for us to uh to
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take advantage of hopefully. So, uh we
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appreciate you bringing this forward. I
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I certainly uh would say and um I think
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you know as obviously the the history of
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the fire service has progressed we've
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learned more about how to keep members
[15:09]
safe and what the risks are and how we
[15:11]
have to respond differently to keep
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members safe. Uh so I appreciate the the
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work that you're doing to make sure that
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happens. Thank you.
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» Chief Jones, as I read the report, I
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wondered is this a fixed dollar um grant
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or is it a proportion uh grant? And I
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wondered what the city's um share would
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be.
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» So this is year three of the grant. The
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first year it was 10 million divided
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amongst over 400 fire departments. Next
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year it's 20 and we our portion was
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approximately I think it was 37 and
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change and we use that for bunker gear
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last year
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» And this year is 20 million as well. So
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I would expect we would get the same
[15:47]
amount. So it's a fixed amount based on
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fire stations.
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» Yeah. Yeah. And and what was the city's
[15:53]
share of that? Is that a 50/50
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contribution or it doesn't say or it
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just depends on what the price is on
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what you decide um is needed.
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» It's on what we propose. So the city
[16:04]
share of this one would end up if we get
[16:06]
the 36 or 37 the total amount is 43.
[16:11]
» Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
[16:14]
Uh any other questions or comments?
[16:17]
Seeing none, we'll call the question.
[16:19]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
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before you, Councelor Deir, how do you
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vote?
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» Yes. Councelor Earl,
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» Sorry, you're on mute. Mute. Yes. Okay.
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Councelor Hobbs.
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» Yes.
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» Councelor Calvass.
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» Yes.
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» Councelor Severson.
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» Yes.
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» Councelor Wales.
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» Yes.
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» Chair Fullerton.
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» Yes.
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» That's Carrie. Thank you.
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» And just indicate for our audience that
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um councelor Earl is online and he
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indicated by raised hand that he was uh
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uh voting in favor. Uh moving on to the
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next item, the um item number two.
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Councelor Hobbs, would you put that on
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the floor? And Councelor Severson, would
[16:54]
you second, please?
[16:57]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, item
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2026-128,
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the Veterans Memorial Crosswalk, that
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council received the report for
[17:07]
information.
[17:09]
» Thank you. This is one of the items that
[17:11]
uh his worship and I um discussed at
[17:14]
length this afternoon. And uh this has
[17:16]
been something a pro a project that the
[17:18]
mayor has been working on with the uh
[17:20]
Brockville uh Legion. Uh this year is um
[17:25]
the Legion in Canada's uh centennial. So
[17:28]
it's 100red years old. And what's
[17:30]
heartening about that is that in
[17:32]
Brockville, it was the very next year.
[17:34]
So Le Legion can Canada formed 100 years
[17:37]
ago. Legion Brockville uh formed 99
[17:41]
years ago. So next year will be their
[17:42]
centennial. So certainly they were
[17:45]
looking for um something to mark that
[17:47]
particular uh occasion and uh they came
[17:51]
up with this um uh with this idea and
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the pictures in the uh package uh
[17:57]
capture this very well. But also if
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you're on Instagram, you're starting to
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see this because other cities are doing
[18:02]
the same thing. And so this will start
[18:04]
to become a national identity type of
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thing that in most cities they'll they
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will have a veterans um commemorative uh
[18:13]
walk which is uh excellent. um uh his
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worship wanted you to know that um he's
[18:19]
been working with the Legion and
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certainly they visited the site and a
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number of things had to be considered in
[18:25]
terms of the location for this and um
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one of the reasons of course that they
[18:28]
picked uh courthouse uh um square is
[18:32]
that uh it has the beautiful war
[18:34]
memorial. But one of the first things
[18:36]
that they considered was perhaps the uh
[18:39]
the walkway right below the um the
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memorial and um in in um in consultation
[18:47]
with uh public works, what they realized
[18:49]
is that because there's so much traffic
[18:51]
coming down the hill and making the turn
[18:54]
that the painting on that sidewalk was
[18:56]
not likely to hold up um very well that
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they would be constantly having to uh to
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touch that up or replace um or or
[19:06]
replace the painting. And also they felt
[19:08]
that it might be a little bit
[19:10]
distracting in terms of it is a
[19:12]
beautiful um view and certainly when
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we're down there for the um Remembrance
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Day services you the whole uh city sort
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of stands around the base and in the and
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in the street. So um where this is going
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will be behind um uh between
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basically going across Broad Street. So,
[19:34]
it will actually create somewhat of a
[19:36]
little corral uh a framework, a backdrop
[19:40]
for that whole uh area. And I think
[19:42]
it'll look beautiful. But I think the uh
[19:44]
the thought was because it's narrower,
[19:47]
the street uh there was less of it uh to
[19:51]
do, so less less cost because it will
[19:54]
need to be replaced and refreshed on a
[19:56]
regular um basis that this was um a good
[19:59]
place to put it. um they consulted with
[20:02]
the DBIA and were um uh pleasantly
[20:06]
surprised that when they contacted them,
[20:08]
the DBIA actually had been in the
[20:10]
process. I assume in relation to the
[20:13]
other two initiatives that they were
[20:15]
already undertaking, they were already
[20:17]
had this idea and wanted to do it as
[20:19]
well. So they were in full support of
[20:21]
this um project uh going forward. So
[20:24]
this is um this is a project that has uh
[20:27]
a lot of support. has had a lot of
[20:29]
consultation and I think is something
[20:31]
that um the list of municipalities that
[20:34]
have one of these veteran walks in their
[20:37]
community uh is growing uh um very
[20:40]
quickly and I think um this will really
[20:43]
look great in our downtown Brockville
[20:45]
and is a wonderful way to mark the
[20:47]
centennial of uh the Legion's uh Canada.
[20:50]
Yes, councelor Sverson.
[20:53]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. I was just
[20:54]
interested if Mr. Wood would give a an
[20:56]
update as well. uh to uh to the design
[20:59]
and I'm kind of interested I saw the
[21:01]
municipalities that have this design of
[21:04]
how it's withtood winters and that and I
[21:07]
saw you had upkeep costs but I'm more
[21:11]
interested probably in the red like is
[21:13]
the red will the red be faded more
[21:15]
quickly than the rest of the design.
[21:17]
Thank you.
[21:18]
» So thank you and uh thank you madam
[21:20]
chair. Um it's a great question. Uh we
[21:23]
are somewhat sort of going to learn a
[21:25]
lot about this as we go. Uh as as uh
[21:28]
councelor Fullerton had mentioned that
[21:30]
we we did for this location because it
[21:32]
had less turning motions. We know that
[21:34]
regular crosswalks in the city um we can
[21:36]
do an application per year. It tends to
[21:38]
fade. We topped them up uh just before
[21:41]
kind of the school year. So that's been
[21:42]
how we do things. But we know that this
[21:44]
is a commemorative area and we want it
[21:46]
to have the distinction that of the
[21:47]
detail that it has. So, um, we're sort
[21:50]
of banking on having to touch it up
[21:51]
several times a year. I think in terms
[21:52]
of the colors, that's maybe a little
[21:54]
outside of my expertise in terms of
[21:56]
which will fade faster, but, um, but
[21:59]
nonetheless, we we did spend the time to
[22:01]
figure out that our equipment will do
[22:03]
this. We can get stencils to make it
[22:04]
happen nicely. We're going to plan to
[22:06]
try and hit it at least three times a
[22:08]
year, and maybe after the first year,
[22:10]
we'll say two is fine. But we are going
[22:12]
to certainly give this an elevated level
[22:14]
of service that um that hopefully
[22:16]
warrants the care that uh that we wanted
[22:18]
to present. So
[22:22]
» Yes,
[22:23]
» Oh uh councelor Earl
[22:25]
» Thank you uh madam chairman um this idea
[22:29]
it came forward a couple years ago and I
[22:32]
certainly 100% support it supported it
[22:35]
then but it never got off the ground.
[22:37]
Now the uh two items for it. One was uh
[22:42]
I noticed the background is white with
[22:45]
the red poppies and I I saw numerous of
[22:49]
the uh when we looked at this a couple
[22:51]
years ago where the the background was
[22:54]
red uh and had much more red in it. And
[22:59]
I was wondering because it is a road and
[23:02]
there are tires and there are dirt.
[23:04]
roads aren't necessarily the most
[23:06]
sanitary things. If maybe more red and
[23:10]
less white might be uh might be more
[23:13]
appropriate because uh as anybody knows
[23:17]
that know wears white or has a white uh
[23:20]
truck or something, the uh white is is a
[23:23]
pretty hard color to keep clean. So the
[23:26]
uh u just as a u as a suggestion or as a
[23:33]
something to look at before we do a
[23:35]
final on this. I would hope that we
[23:37]
could look at a red more more red in the
[23:42]
background than white just so that it
[23:44]
stays stays looking good. and and
[23:47]
certainly red poppies go with go with uh
[23:53]
remembrance day and the and the in the
[23:55]
senate half uh very well. So I I just
[23:59]
just ask that we look at that. I don't
[24:01]
know what the uh the answer is, but I
[24:04]
trust Mr. Wood to uh to find the right
[24:08]
answer for that. Uh
[24:11]
» The um the red in this is actually maple
[24:14]
leaf, not a not a poppy. uh in this
[24:17]
case. So I'll have uh counselor I'm
[24:20]
sorry
[24:22]
» I stand I stand corrected the original
[24:24]
design that when we look back then was
[24:26]
was poppies as opposed to maple leaf. So
[24:30]
um you know where where the final design
[24:33]
will end I don't know but
[24:36]
whether it's poppies or it's maple leafs
[24:39]
I just think red might stay cleaner on
[24:41]
the street than white. So,
[24:43]
» Well, I think the other thing that the
[24:44]
mayor wanted to um make sure that that I
[24:48]
um stressed with everyone is that the
[24:51]
design that we're looking at is a design
[24:53]
that's been approved by the Legion. The
[24:55]
Legion likes this design. They like the
[24:58]
wording. they like they've approved
[25:00]
everything about this and it's gone
[25:01]
through um them and um it you know it it
[25:05]
it's had their collaboration and they
[25:08]
are very much um part of this uh this uh
[25:11]
project and it's you know it's to
[25:14]
recognize their organization so I think
[25:16]
that's very important their preference
[25:18]
is extremely important but um director
[25:20]
Woods
[25:23]
» So so through you madam chair that's
[25:24]
that's precisely what I was going to add
[25:25]
as well is that we actually presented
[25:27]
maybe a dozen uh designs and asked the
[25:29]
Legion to say which one they like the
[25:31]
best. And so this was the one that they
[25:33]
liked the best. And one of the things
[25:34]
that's nice about it from I suppose the
[25:36]
staff the rigid staff point of view is
[25:38]
that all road applications are actually
[25:40]
very prescriptive. And one of the things
[25:42]
we've always shied away from is adding
[25:44]
any detail that isn't legislated. So the
[25:46]
nice thing about this is the white
[25:47]
ladder bars are actually what a standard
[25:49]
pedestrian crossover is mandated to look
[25:51]
like when you resurface. So our plan is
[25:54]
if is within the report is to resurface
[25:56]
this area. We've been slowly but surely
[25:57]
assimulating some of the brick downtown
[25:59]
into Asheva and where where it's been a
[26:01]
crossing and this will actually work
[26:03]
quite well for that to add the white
[26:06]
ladder bars that were required to and
[26:08]
the detail that the Legion wanted. So it
[26:10]
seemed to be quite suitable for them.
[26:13]
There was lots some that were red, some
[26:14]
that were quite a bit different and they
[26:16]
they selected this one as you mentioned.
[26:18]
» Yeah.
[26:18]
» Okay. The uh if I could follow up from
[26:22]
something that uh Mr. Wood just said um
[26:27]
we had the other thing we had talked
[26:28]
about when we these things and he just
[26:30]
mentioned that that we were motioning
[26:34]
transitioning from
[26:36]
uh the uh paving stones to asphalt in
[26:40]
some cases. And I'm sure everyone has
[26:43]
read the uh criticism of the uh of the
[26:48]
cement patch job. And and I and I wanted
[26:50]
to do two things. One is I wanted to to
[26:54]
let people know that that asphalt that's
[26:56]
a temporary measure for safety that and
[26:59]
and that's why it's done um and that
[27:02]
those things will be corrected. And one
[27:06]
of the corrections that we had looked at
[27:08]
a couple years ago and Mr. Wood and I
[27:10]
had talked about it is when we convert
[27:13]
them to asphalt is to take the crossings
[27:17]
and make them blue in honor of the of
[27:20]
the river. similar to what we do with
[27:23]
the green with bicycle paths. So, I was
[27:26]
uh I was hoping that when we do do that
[27:29]
consideration that that making our
[27:32]
crosswalks blue to make Brock stand out
[27:34]
among cities for for tourism and and you
[27:38]
know make each of the crosswalks I don't
[27:41]
think it'll ever look like a river but
[27:43]
uh but to signify the river and our
[27:46]
crosswalks when when we go asphalt uh or
[27:49]
if we go asphalt all the way. But
[27:51]
certainly uh I I did want to give his
[27:54]
staff a break uh because they've been
[27:56]
taking a lot of heat on on the cement in
[27:59]
the in the current uh paving stones and
[28:03]
and you know what you know that's not a
[28:05]
a that's not a permanent fix. That's
[28:09]
just to keep a safety fix. Uh many of us
[28:12]
have had knee problems uh uh
[28:17]
madame chairman included and myself and
[28:20]
uh you know that that those cement
[28:22]
patches are to keep us from catching and
[28:25]
and and falling down. So so u you know
[28:29]
it's it I didn't want the the citizens
[28:33]
to think that was a permanent fix.
[28:38]
» Uh thank you.
[28:41]
Uh I think um I I think we want to
[28:44]
stress um councelor Earl that we're not
[28:46]
being asked uh to make any changes to
[28:49]
this. We're asking we're being asked to
[28:52]
receive the report for information. So I
[28:55]
I don't know that there's any venue for
[28:58]
us to insert ourselves into the design
[29:00]
process um in this particular um thing.
[29:04]
Um,
[29:09]
» I I understand that they were talking
[29:11]
this, but I just wanted to get the the
[29:14]
blue crosswalks on the uh in the minutes
[29:18]
so that they were the so that we can
[29:22]
deal with them at at a later time.
[29:25]
» Thank you. Thank you. Uh, are there any
[29:28]
other questions or comments related to
[29:29]
the report?
[29:32]
Seeing none, we'll call the question.
[29:35]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[29:36]
before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you
[29:37]
vote?
[29:38]
» Yes.
[29:38]
» Councelor Earl,
[29:43]
» You voted yes. Councelor Hobbs,
[29:45]
» Yes.
[29:45]
» Councelor Calvash,
[29:46]
» Yes.
[29:47]
» Councelor Severson,
[29:48]
» Yes.
[29:48]
» Councelor Wales,
[29:49]
» Yes.
[29:50]
» Chair Ferton,
[29:50]
» Yes.
[29:51]
» That's carried. Thank you.
[29:52]
» Yes. Uh just for clarity, I want to uh
[29:55]
I'll record that councelor Earl uh
[29:57]
raised his hand in support of the
[29:59]
motion. Um, item number three. Uh, let's
[30:05]
see. Councelor Wales, would you put that
[30:06]
on the floor, please? Um,
[30:09]
and councelor Severson, would you
[30:11]
second?
[30:13]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. The item is
[30:14]
2026-126
[30:16]
adoption of zoning bylaw amendment
[30:18]
general update following council's
[30:20]
direction from a previous meeting that
[30:22]
zoning bylaw 050-204
[30:24]
be amended to implement the changes as
[30:26]
proposed and prepared by NPG solutions
[30:29]
with the exclusions of section 3.21k
[30:32]
home industries and 3.22 22. Oh, no.
[30:37]
12. Thank you. Uh, home home
[30:40]
occupations. And that zoning bylaw 050 I
[30:43]
it just took me a second. I I don't even
[30:46]
have the coffee excuse. Apologies. That
[30:48]
zoning bylaw 050-204
[30:50]
be further amended in relation to home
[30:52]
industries and home occupations remain,
[30:55]
but be further refined and read retail
[30:58]
except for the sale of goods in
[30:59]
accordance with section 3.21 21 for home
[31:02]
industries and retail except for the
[31:05]
sale of goods in accordance with section
[31:06]
3.22B
[31:08]
7 and 8 for home occupations.
[31:14]
» There we go.
[31:15]
» Thank you.
[31:16]
» It's not good.
[31:17]
» Mr. McGinness, uh I take it you can um
[31:20]
provide an update for us.
[31:23]
Uh three you madam chair and as you do
[31:25]
recall um in July or actually last
[31:29]
council meeting I believe it was uh the
[31:31]
general amendment did come forward to
[31:33]
the zoning byl and there were questions
[31:34]
regarding home occupations, home
[31:36]
industries, retailing from those
[31:38]
locations as well as landscaped areas
[31:41]
within parking areas. Uh so staff did
[31:45]
take a take it back and speak with MPG
[31:47]
our consultant and we have no problem
[31:50]
removing
[31:52]
uh the preparation of food provided it's
[31:54]
on a small scale. So councelor Wales is
[31:57]
brought had brought up at the last
[31:58]
meeting about cakes, cookies, brownies
[32:01]
etc.
[32:03]
We're still excluding restaurants. So
[32:05]
that gets the larger picture out of it.
[32:08]
And they're also limited on size.
[32:09]
They're only allowed 25% of the home or
[32:12]
28 square meters, whichever is lesser.
[32:15]
And that happens with both home industry
[32:17]
and home occupations, except home
[32:19]
industries could do their
[32:23]
industry within their detached structure
[32:25]
or garage. Um, we've also focused the
[32:29]
retail portion. So, back to councelor
[32:31]
Whale's comments at that meeting about
[32:33]
people coming uh in
[32:37]
multiple vehicles to pick things up. Uh
[32:40]
councelor also brought that up. We
[32:42]
already have a regulation that limits it
[32:44]
to two occupant or two visitors at a
[32:48]
time.
[32:49]
» So, all we did was limit it to not allow
[32:51]
a retail store,
[32:53]
but in accordance with section seven and
[32:57]
8 and 12.
[33:00]
So that references specifically to that
[33:03]
two clients per time at a time.
[33:05]
» Yeah, that seems like a good uh
[33:07]
compromise in terms of uh not not being
[33:10]
a nuisance to your neighbors because
[33:13]
you're tying the whole street up.
[33:15]
» Now just sorry just to re or to add to
[33:18]
that it does not apply to home
[33:20]
industries only to home occupations but
[33:23]
home industries are only allowed in the
[33:25]
rural zone.
[33:27]
So you're not going to get a home
[33:28]
industry on Perth Street or Charles
[33:31]
Street or Duke Street. They're basically
[33:34]
out on Victoria Road.
[33:35]
» Yeah.
[33:36]
» And Centennial.
[33:37]
» Yeah.
[33:37]
» Which have larger lots. So we didn't
[33:39]
believe it would become an issue. Uh if
[33:41]
it does though, we do issue certificates
[33:43]
of zoning compliance which we could
[33:44]
revoke.
[33:45]
» Yeah.
[33:46]
» If complaints do arise.
[33:49]
» Good. Uh councelor Derry.
[33:51]
» Thank you. Uh thank you Mr. McInness.
[33:53]
Just my question was related to the 15%
[33:56]
aotment for the landscaping. Was there
[33:58]
any specific requirement that it has to
[34:00]
be within the interior of the or can it
[34:02]
be along the exterior or perimeter of
[34:04]
the property? Does it specify anything
[34:06]
along that or does it matter where they
[34:08]
make that landscaping?
[34:10]
» Uh through you madam chair to couns
[34:12]
councelor Derry and the rest of council.
[34:13]
Um so it would be within the parking
[34:16]
area delineated by the building. So if
[34:18]
the parking area is in the front yard
[34:20]
» It would need to be within the front
[34:21]
yard. Uh for an example
[34:24]
um we already I'm going to use Walmart
[34:26]
as an example. We require say Walmart
[34:29]
came tomorrow and wanted to build a new
[34:32]
complex. We require minimum 15%
[34:35]
landscaped open space. When you look at
[34:37]
Walmart now where would their
[34:39]
landscaping be? It's in the back. No one
[34:41]
sees it.
[34:43]
» So we've we're trying to implement it
[34:45]
within the parking area to beautify the
[34:47]
area, make it more attractive. Um, it is
[34:50]
already a requirement.
[34:52]
We're just dictating it has to be within
[34:54]
that parking area if it's over 50
[34:56]
parking spaces.
[35:00]
» So hope so the desire is that hopefully
[35:03]
it would lead to a few trees uh being
[35:07]
» Hopefully it doesn't have to be trees
[35:09]
that could be shrubs or something that's
[35:11]
easily maintained.
[35:12]
» Yeah,
[35:13]
» As councelor Earl did bring up trees are
[35:14]
hard to maintain in those islands.
[35:16]
» Yeah,
[35:16]
» They don't get enough water. No,
[35:19]
» Not saying the owners couldn't water
[35:21]
them, but there are other options.
[35:23]
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. Are there any
[35:26]
other questions or comments? Yes.
[35:30]
» Uh, thanks very much, Madam Chair. I
[35:32]
just want to thank uh Mr. McGinness for
[35:34]
uh the revisions. I I think that they've
[35:35]
captured council's de uh debate and
[35:38]
deliberation very well. Uh and also the
[35:42]
um the memo uh from uh Mr. opits uh and
[35:46]
NPG I have found quite helpful in
[35:48]
explaining uh the many different reasons
[35:51]
why they've considered this and the
[35:53]
whole heat island effect and it was very
[35:54]
informative. So appreciate their work as
[35:56]
well.
[35:57]
» Thank you.
[35:58]
» Absolutely. as you're aware, I certainly
[36:00]
had some concerns about it, but I'm not
[36:02]
the expert and I um I I believe, you
[36:06]
know, you've had a good look at it um uh
[36:08]
now specifically and I do see that it,
[36:11]
you know, on uh 50 uh car parking area,
[36:15]
it means five spaces. So, to me, it's
[36:18]
still not insignificant. And I know
[36:20]
we're going to have some um some
[36:22]
properties that are challenged to meet
[36:24]
uh what they need to do, but I also know
[36:26]
that um yeah, we we work things out
[36:29]
somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Uh any other
[36:32]
questions or comments? Seeing none,
[36:35]
we'll call the question.
[36:37]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[36:38]
before you, Councelor Jerry, how do you
[36:39]
vote?
[36:40]
» Yes.
[36:40]
» Councelor Earl?
[36:42]
» Yes.
[36:44]
» Councelor Hog,
[36:45]
» Yes.
[36:46]
» Councelor Calvas,
[36:47]
» Yes.
[36:47]
» Councelor Severson,
[36:48]
» Yes. Councelor Wales.
[36:50]
» Yes.
[36:51]
» Chair Fullerton.
[36:52]
» Yes.
[36:52]
» That's carried. Thank you.
[36:53]
» Great. U moving on to the general
[36:55]
committee. I wonder councelor Deiri,
[36:58]
would you take this agenda, please?
[36:59]
» I will, Madam Chair. All matters listed
[37:02]
under consent agenda considered to be
[37:03]
routine and will be enacted by one
[37:05]
motion. Should a council member wish an
[37:08]
alternative action from the proposed
[37:09]
recommendation, the council member shall
[37:11]
request that this matter be be moved to
[37:14]
separate the item uh and that the
[37:16]
following items as listed on the general
[37:18]
committee agenda are recommended by the
[37:20]
committee to be passed by consent
[37:22]
agenda. Was anyone asking for separation
[37:24]
from the agenda?
[37:26]
» Okay, seeing none, I'd ask.
[37:28]
» Councelor Hobbs, um do you mind
[37:29]
seconding?
[37:30]
» Oh, yes. Thank you.
[37:31]
» Thank you.
[37:32]
» Yeah, thank you. Um, councelor Severson,
[37:35]
if you could take one and two, and
[37:37]
councelor Hobbs, if you take three,
[37:38]
four, and five.
[37:42]
» Thank you, Councelor Deir. Um 2027
[37:46]
Ontario 55 summer games 55 plus ad hoc
[37:50]
games organizing committee that an ad
[37:52]
hoc games organizing committee be
[37:54]
established to develop and implement a
[37:56]
comprehensive strategy that aims to
[37:58]
manage the Ontario 55 plus summer games
[38:01]
in 2027 along with associated
[38:04]
subcommittees and that the draft terms
[38:06]
of reference for the ad hoc games
[38:08]
organizing committee be adopted and the
[38:10]
necessary bylaw be adopted.
[38:13]
2026
[38:15]
118 museum collection policy that the
[38:18]
brothel museum collection policy be
[38:20]
adopted as amended to reflect a review
[38:23]
period of four years rather than three.
[38:27]
Item number 3 2026-19
[38:30]
the museum exhibition policy that the
[38:32]
Brockville Museum exhibition policy be
[38:35]
adopted as amended to reflect a review
[38:37]
period of four years rather than three.
[38:40]
Item 4, 2026-120.
[38:43]
The museum membership program new user
[38:45]
fee. That the new user fee for museum
[38:48]
membership offered by the broughtful
[38:50]
museum be approved and that the
[38:52]
necessarily necessary bylaw be amended.
[38:56]
Item 5, 2026-121,
[38:59]
the June 2026 capital status report that
[39:02]
report 2026-121
[39:06]
June 2026 capital status report be
[39:09]
received.
[39:11]
» Thank you. Um, so by uh roll call, I
[39:15]
will call the question.
[39:17]
» Thank you, Chair Fullerton. On the
[39:19]
matter before you, Councelor Deir, how
[39:20]
do you vote?
[39:21]
» Yes.
[39:22]
» Councelor Earl?
[39:24]
» Yes.
[39:25]
Councelor Hobbs,
[39:26]
» Yes.
[39:27]
» Councelor Calvas,
[39:28]
» Yes.
[39:28]
» Councelor Severson,
[39:29]
» Yes.
[39:30]
» Councelor Wales,
[39:31]
» Yes.
[39:31]
» Chair Fullerton,
[39:32]
» Yes. Thank you. That's carried.
[39:38]
» Uh, councelor Calivas, will you take the
[39:40]
next item, please? And councelor
[39:41]
Severson, will you second?
[39:44]
» Okay. It's moved that uh project 260036
[39:49]
Murf Ball Diamonds and Pickle Ball
[39:51]
Excavation Tender that the report
[39:53]
2026124
[39:55]
project 260036
[39:57]
Murf Ball Diamonds and Pickle Ball
[40:00]
Excavation Tender be received.
[40:03]
» Uh thank you. Um, one of the things that
[40:06]
was noted at our general uh, committee
[40:09]
meeting is that there were uh, a few
[40:12]
things on this um, on this uh, agenda
[40:16]
that related to the multi-use recreation
[40:18]
facility and the fact that it's moving
[40:20]
forward. And um at the time we had uh
[40:23]
the fundraiser for the new um uh project
[40:26]
was in the room and certainly spoke to
[40:28]
um uh you know the fundraising efforts
[40:31]
that are going to um begin to happen.
[40:34]
And um this is again part of the project
[40:38]
that we are um you know taken off so
[40:41]
that we have a little bit of it done and
[40:44]
we're working toward it. And it was
[40:46]
certainly noted that u the city has
[40:48]
already acquired and paid for the land.
[40:50]
We've already uh contracted and paid for
[40:54]
the uh design. So, we have a shovel
[40:57]
ready project that's um that's ready to
[41:00]
go. We've got a fundraiser uh in place
[41:03]
and uh we're waiting for our upper level
[41:06]
um government announcements for funding
[41:09]
and uh we have a very strong uh project
[41:12]
to put forward. So, um so this was very
[41:16]
exciting. Um, yes, Councelor Severson.
[41:21]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I might ask
[41:23]
Mr. Wood to speak. Uh, again, um, I I
[41:27]
ask that these the item one and two be
[41:29]
pulled from our consent agenda because I
[41:32]
think it's a very big project within the
[41:34]
city and also a very exciting time
[41:37]
hopefully uh, within the next year. and
[41:41]
um and councelor Wales and myself went
[41:44]
on a tour to check out the new roof that
[41:46]
was uh being finished and hopefully this
[41:50]
week will be finished. So maybe Mr. Wood
[41:52]
could give us an update on that.
[41:56]
» Certainly.
[41:56]
» Thank you.
[41:58]
» Thank you. And through you, Madam Chair.
[41:59]
Um well, I'm going to start with just a
[42:01]
quick update on the roof. Um, so despite
[42:04]
the fact that I understand this to be
[42:06]
the wetest July in history and possibly
[42:09]
I'm assuming the wetest August in
[42:10]
history, um, our roof project has
[42:12]
proceeded and is planned to be complete
[42:15]
on budget and on time. Uh, the, uh, as I
[42:19]
understand, our first ice booking is
[42:21]
actually the 31st of August, and we are
[42:24]
planning to have ice built for then. So,
[42:26]
I know there's a lot of moving parts and
[42:28]
there's a lot of uh maybe a little
[42:30]
excitable folk in our in our barn at the
[42:33]
moment, but uh the uh the contractor's
[42:36]
been excellent to deal with and uh been
[42:38]
very forward when we found issues. We
[42:39]
worked them through and um and they've
[42:41]
done a very good job at completing the
[42:43]
job as we've asked. So, um, right now
[42:46]
we're in a position where provided
[42:48]
there's no enormous surprises between
[42:50]
now and the end of the week, we should
[42:51]
have, uh, we should have all of that,
[42:54]
uh, ready to go to start building ice.
[42:56]
So, again, um, those who have been
[42:58]
inside, I I think will be impressed.
[43:00]
It's an enormous facelift on the inside,
[43:02]
even though we haven't made any
[43:03]
structural changes. Um, you know, it's a
[43:05]
much brighter, renew, rejuvenated
[43:08]
building when you're inside. And I must
[43:10]
admit, it's sort of um an interesting
[43:12]
feeling when you're standing at Center
[43:13]
Ice and looking up at the sky. So, it's
[43:15]
it's been impressive. So, yes, the
[43:17]
memorial center is is uh on its way.
[43:20]
We're, like I said, planning to build
[43:22]
ice in the very near future. I think
[43:23]
it'll probably be some allnighters by
[43:24]
staff to get it done on time, but we are
[43:26]
hitting our marks. So, that's positive.
[43:28]
» Yeah.
[43:29]
» We have a doors open uh project coming
[43:32]
uh day coming on uh September the 18th,
[43:36]
I believe. Uh, is the memorial center
[43:38]
going to be one of those doors that that
[43:40]
is open?
[43:42]
» Well, the uh, you know, manager of
[43:44]
tourism would have been probably an
[43:45]
excellent person to answer that question
[43:46]
because I'm not specifically sure. I
[43:48]
know that the Gourd Watts building is
[43:49]
and so forth, but there will certainly
[43:52]
be people skating on it by the time the
[43:54]
doors open happens. So, hopefully we'll
[43:57]
we'll all be, you know, in very pleased
[43:59]
mood when we see that. But,
[44:01]
» Yeah. Um so yeah, if uh you'll indulge
[44:04]
me, I'll I can speak to the the outside
[44:06]
project which is sort of the matter of
[44:07]
the report. Um so uh maybe I'll start
[44:11]
quickly that um this this project and
[44:14]
what we're discussing constitutes
[44:16]
probably a third or more of the
[44:18]
component of the greater MURF project in
[44:22]
terms of the outside facility. So when
[44:25]
we if if you recall and I'll paraphrase
[44:27]
but the uh the report of the costs of
[44:29]
the project actually was approximately
[44:30]
20 million for the new build
[44:32]
approximately $5 million for the outside
[44:34]
work and approximately $5 million for
[44:36]
the inside work plus then you have
[44:37]
contractor markups and some
[44:39]
contingencies and these sort of things
[44:40]
and that is how the cost estimate was
[44:42]
presented by the the consultant. So um
[44:46]
of the of the renovation I'll start with
[44:48]
that of the renovation approximately $2
[44:50]
million of that was to do the roof. So,
[44:52]
we've checked that box. Now, we have
[44:54]
approximately $3 million worth of
[44:55]
renovations in the inside. When we get
[44:57]
to that point in terms of the outside
[44:58]
facilities, uh again, it was
[45:00]
approximately $5 million worth of work.
[45:02]
Um if we built if we intended to proceed
[45:05]
with the ball fields and pickle ball the
[45:07]
way that it was designed, it's probably
[45:10]
$2 million or more worth of work. Um
[45:12]
that would include landscaping the
[45:14]
entire property. And to be perfectly
[45:16]
honest and that would be the perfect
[45:18]
world for how to build it according to
[45:19]
the way the designers did it but it
[45:20]
would actually result in a gap in our
[45:22]
ability to deliver services to our user
[45:24]
groups. So for instance the co-ed men's
[45:27]
and and ladies ball uh leagues would
[45:29]
have to pause while grass group for
[45:31]
instance while we did this. Um the way
[45:34]
this is done um is actually going to be
[45:37]
staff managing this in terms of the
[45:39]
landscapes that we have. the end product
[45:41]
will be just as good, but it won't be as
[45:44]
I suppose complete as as the way it was
[45:47]
designed where the whole landscape would
[45:48]
be leveled to one level and that sort of
[45:50]
thing. Um, not I suppose ironically the
[45:53]
um the budget for this as I mentioned uh
[45:56]
was probably two more than $2 million to
[45:59]
do it the way it was designed. um staff
[46:00]
will be doing this in-house using um our
[46:03]
own contract administration capabilities
[46:05]
and our own I suppose landscape the way
[46:08]
it is and we'll be approximately 954,000
[46:12]
in terms of the budget that was set out
[46:13]
that was roughly equivalent not
[46:15]
ironically to the amount that the
[46:17]
Ontario government gave us to do the
[46:18]
roof. Um so we've had to set this up in
[46:22]
a way that was strategic for both the
[46:23]
city and for staff uh ability to manage
[46:26]
this. So it was broken up into four
[46:28]
smaller projects. one being the
[46:29]
excavation. That's the meat and potatoes
[46:31]
of what this report is. So, it's talking
[46:32]
about how we we carved out the
[46:35]
components that were just machine work
[46:36]
on site, land, earth moving and all that
[46:38]
good stuff. Um, that's the part that
[46:40]
we've completed. Now, part of what the
[46:42]
report says is that the amount that we
[46:44]
had we had estimated that to be the cost
[46:46]
came in more than that. Um, the second
[46:50]
part of that is lighting which we are
[46:51]
tendering at the moment, the fencing and
[46:53]
then also the sports material. This is
[46:55]
the clay and things going on the
[46:56]
infield. By managing them independently
[46:58]
and in house gives us the ability to do
[47:01]
two things. We can be strategic about it
[47:02]
as I mentioned and by strategic I mean
[47:04]
that we're not actually going to
[47:06]
interrupt any any services we provide.
[47:08]
Our plan is to phase in things so that
[47:10]
the ball diamond that needs to be
[47:11]
complete will be complete on time for
[47:13]
use in 2027. Provided that goes well, we
[47:16]
can use one of the existing ball fields,
[47:18]
that's the way the landscaping is, to
[47:19]
build the pickle ball. And then the
[47:21]
third component is the second diamond
[47:24]
and that uh can be finished by 2028. So
[47:27]
this phasing the the way that we're
[47:30]
we're doing it in partition allows us to
[47:32]
be strategic to manage it within ideally
[47:35]
a smaller budget more contained project
[47:37]
just as good as a final product and uh
[47:40]
something that we've been able actually
[47:42]
to procure inhouse and and deliver
[47:44]
ideally to the public in a in a in a
[47:47]
very good way. This is actually very
[47:49]
similar to how we did the um the um
[47:52]
docks at the Ernie Fox key and the
[47:54]
tunnel. This was something that was
[47:56]
designed in cooperation with an a
[47:57]
designer, delivered using a local uh
[48:01]
contractor to fabricate them being Kho
[48:03]
and then actually contract administrated
[48:05]
by staff. What it means is as staff get
[48:08]
to these different milestones, we may
[48:10]
come back to council and say, you know,
[48:11]
we were a little good on this one. We we
[48:12]
were under our budget expectations or
[48:14]
this one was a little a little beyond.
[48:17]
The other thing with the phasing is that
[48:18]
we can actually bring this back to a
[48:19]
future capital project or capital
[48:21]
budget. So council can actually
[48:23]
interpret the cost as we've tendered
[48:24]
them and make you know decisions on the
[48:27]
budget implications through the budget
[48:29]
process as opposed to me coming in the
[48:31]
middle of a budget year saying this is
[48:33]
ahead or behind. So apologize it for
[48:35]
being a little more complicated than
[48:36]
normal but this is kind of the way that
[48:38]
we'll do it that uh that allows us to
[48:40]
have our finger on the pulse, manage it
[48:42]
inhouse and deliver those answers to
[48:44]
council as we go. there's uh lots of
[48:46]
moving parts and uh I think uh you know
[48:49]
the usual if you hire a general
[48:51]
contractor to do all these things
[48:52]
doesn't it add 20% of um to the project
[48:56]
cost. So I think this is a an excellent
[48:58]
uh approach and as you say um you know
[49:01]
our citizens are worried about losing um
[49:04]
access to uh um to certain of their uh
[49:08]
facilities. So, um, being able to keep
[49:10]
those diamonds, uh, going when people
[49:12]
want to play play ball is, uh, a really
[49:15]
important, uh, feature of the way that
[49:17]
you're, uh, uh, taking this job on. So,
[49:20]
it's good. It's good. Other questions or
[49:23]
comments?
[49:25]
» Seeing none, we'll call the question.
[49:26]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[49:28]
before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you
[49:29]
vote?
[49:30]
» Yes.
[49:30]
» Councelor Earl,
[49:34]
» Yes.
[49:35]
» Councelor Hobbs,
[49:36]
» Yes. Councelor Calvas,
[49:38]
» Yes.
[49:38]
» Councelor Severson,
[49:39]
» Yes.
[49:40]
» Councelor Wales,
[49:40]
» Yes.
[49:41]
» Chair Fullerton,
[49:42]
» Yes.
[49:42]
» That's carried. Thank you.
[49:44]
» Councelor Hobbs, will you put the next
[49:45]
item on? And councelor Wales, would you
[49:47]
second?
[49:48]
» Thank you.
[49:49]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. Item number two,
[49:51]
2026-122
[49:54]
inind fundraising policy for the MURF
[49:56]
fundraising campaign.
[50:00]
that report 2026-122
[50:03]
inind fundraising policy for the MURF
[50:06]
fundraising campaign be received and
[50:08]
approved and that the inind fundraising
[50:11]
policy be implemented accordingly and
[50:14]
that authorization of inind donations in
[50:17]
accordance with the policy be accepted.
[50:21]
Are there questions or comments? Yes,
[50:23]
Councelor Severson.
[50:24]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I got this
[50:27]
one confused at committee. I was
[50:28]
thinking because we had Joan Simon here
[50:30]
that that's what we were talking about
[50:32]
and I did read it but I just got you
[50:34]
know all excited about raising money but
[50:37]
um Emily Wood prepared for us a great
[50:40]
inind fundraising policy and uh while
[50:43]
Joan was here she gave us an update and
[50:45]
she said it's much easier to uh have
[50:48]
this in place when she's starting to
[50:50]
raise money because anybody that wants
[50:52]
to donate money in the community needs
[50:54]
to have it in front of them that it's
[50:57]
factual and that we uh or ducks in a
[50:59]
row, so to speak. I wouldn't mind if
[51:01]
Miss Wood would give us a little bit of
[51:03]
an update on how she put this together
[51:06]
um and uh how she sees it proceeding.
[51:08]
» Yeah.
[51:09]
» Thank you.
[51:10]
» Thank you.
[51:11]
» Thank you. And through you, Madam Chair.
[51:12]
Uh so yes, this policy was developed uh
[51:15]
from the request of the immensely
[51:17]
talented Joan Simon. Uh so she's asked
[51:20]
us to consider inkind donations. In our
[51:22]
current policy, it's limited at $5,000
[51:24]
and uh for a project of this size, uh
[51:27]
she was hoping uh that there would be
[51:30]
interested parties that would maybe give
[51:33]
more. So, um we've developed a formal
[51:37]
process for engaging local companies uh
[51:40]
that may wish to support the project
[51:42]
through things other than a cash
[51:43]
donation. This policy is uh going to
[51:47]
provide us with an accountable framework
[51:49]
uh to accept these contributions while
[51:51]
protecting our procurement integrity uh
[51:54]
ensuring that there's fair access to um
[51:57]
for potential donors and establishing
[52:01]
appropriate safeguards for quality
[52:02]
workmanship and it allow us to recognize
[52:05]
new and existing community partners with
[52:07]
the intent of offsetting those costs
[52:10]
associated with this project. Uh and so
[52:12]
in terms of roll out uh there was a
[52:14]
question uh a general committee of how
[52:17]
we are uh going to proceed with this and
[52:20]
um uh in the beginning uh we'll probably
[52:24]
do an expression of interest uh getting
[52:26]
some information from folks who
[52:28]
businesses that are interested in um
[52:33]
contributing in this way. Uh in kind
[52:36]
again is you know free uh items for the
[52:39]
city. So, not all businesses will be
[52:41]
doing that. Um, but we will put out the
[52:44]
expression of interest through our
[52:45]
social media channels, through the
[52:46]
city's website. We will allow that to be
[52:48]
open for a while. And once we get an
[52:50]
idea of who is interested in donating,
[52:53]
we will pull from our design and we will
[52:58]
pull uh the design information and
[53:01]
specifications for the items that we're
[53:03]
looking for and see if it matches what
[53:05]
those folks that have expressed interest
[53:08]
uh are willing to donate. Uh and then
[53:10]
from there we would quantify um you know
[53:13]
numbers, values, timelines and we would
[53:16]
set out an agreement with those parties
[53:18]
um so that they we all understand the
[53:21]
same thing. So, um that they would need
[53:24]
to keep things until we're ready for
[53:26]
them. That um you know, their names
[53:30]
would be written into the tender with a
[53:33]
uh contact information for the potential
[53:36]
biders or the future biders hopefully uh
[53:38]
to reach out to them and understand what
[53:41]
product they're providing and um just to
[53:44]
be very clear during that process so
[53:46]
nothing falls between the cracks. So um
[53:49]
uh we hope in the next uh couple of
[53:52]
months to be issuing uh a post for
[53:54]
expression of interest and then we would
[53:57]
go from there. For other items, we
[53:59]
talked about the fundraising campaign
[54:01]
needing some potential uh folks that
[54:04]
might want to provide food services to
[54:07]
any events. um we would specifically
[54:09]
post what we were looking for in the in
[54:11]
that regard, saying we're looking for um
[54:15]
businesses that might be interested in
[54:16]
providing inind services. We're seeking
[54:19]
quantities of sandwiches or whatever
[54:22]
that might look like. But uh that's
[54:24]
essentially the mechanism and the
[54:26]
process that we're hoping to use if this
[54:28]
policy is approved.
[54:30]
» Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, please. If I
[54:34]
may, Madam Chair, I just wanted to add
[54:36]
that this is uh the first time that city
[54:39]
of brothel has attempted this type of
[54:41]
inind policy and it's not uh Mr. Wood
[54:44]
and I were at the Association of
[54:46]
Municipalities of Ontario conference
[54:48]
last week and it's not something that
[54:50]
happens very often. So, this is a trial.
[54:53]
We're really quite excited about it. We
[54:55]
think it could provide some great
[54:57]
opportunities for the city moving
[54:59]
forward on on larger capital projects
[55:02]
especially, but uh let's treat this as a
[55:06]
test case and uh we're hoping that we'll
[55:09]
see good results from it and we'll be
[55:10]
able to implement it for future projects
[55:12]
as well.
[55:14]
I can certainly remember um when I was a
[55:16]
counselor in Augusta, we had a large
[55:18]
fundraiser for the uh library and uh so
[55:22]
the library board had uh an auction and
[55:26]
um we had things donated like um you
[55:29]
know 10 yards of top soil and we had a
[55:32]
lot of that that sort of donation is
[55:35]
dirt there. There are a lot of pits and
[55:37]
things in Augusta. And uh when I first
[55:40]
saw the list, I was a little bit I
[55:42]
thought this not very interesting. I was
[55:45]
shocked at how we got full price for all
[55:48]
of um for all of the you know the
[55:51]
aggregate and we had you know different
[55:53]
kinds of things um uh donated. And you
[55:56]
have people too that have seasons
[55:58]
tickets for um you know sens games and
[56:00]
that kind of thing that are willing to
[56:02]
uh to donate um uh uh tickets and um you
[56:07]
know they have a value they have a set
[56:08]
value printed right on them and often um
[56:11]
you know they'll donate their parking
[56:12]
pass with it and um it's really
[56:15]
something that you can monetize uh very
[56:17]
well and that is marketable but it but
[56:20]
it's a little harder for them to just
[56:21]
reach in the pocket sometimes and say
[56:23]
I'm going to give cash for this. Um, but
[56:25]
to say, "Yeah, I'm not going to use all
[56:28]
of these tickets anyway. I'm quite happy
[56:30]
to give a couple away." So, it's
[56:31]
surprising the different applications.
[56:34]
And on the Brock Trail, too. We've had
[56:36]
trees donated and rocks uh donated to
[56:39]
put our plaques on and uh uh we've had
[56:43]
uh engineering services uh donated.
[56:45]
We've had design services uh donated. So
[56:49]
um when uh when it's the citizens group
[56:52]
um working like a lot of times yeah
[56:55]
people can give you u what they do but
[56:58]
you know it's it's a little harder for
[57:00]
them to just to write a check for it. So
[57:03]
uh I think this is a great step forward.
[57:05]
It's a big project so I I think there's
[57:08]
lots of opportunities and I'm glad that
[57:10]
it'll be another tool that u Miss uh
[57:13]
Simon has uh in order to reach her uh
[57:16]
fundraising goal for us. So very
[57:18]
exciting. Are there questions, comments?
[57:21]
Uh yes, councelor Earl.
[57:24]
» Yeah, I just wanted to uh to say that,
[57:28]
you know, you're looking at it from the
[57:30]
city side, but I I wanted to, you know,
[57:33]
give you a view from the contractor
[57:35]
side. Many contractors are reluctant to
[57:39]
donate money
[57:41]
so that so that the the city can hire
[57:44]
their competitor.
[57:46]
So like uh you know like so if you are
[57:50]
say you wanted to donate
[57:53]
you mention aggregate uh aggregate for a
[57:56]
project and so you donated strictly as a
[58:00]
cash basis let's say $5,000 in aggregate
[58:05]
and then they went and bought it from
[58:07]
another contractor that kind of leaves
[58:09]
you with a sour taste. So, so this way
[58:12]
it, you know, this this type of
[58:14]
donation, you know, allows uh allows the
[58:19]
uh contractor to actually physically
[58:21]
donate something and it goes directly to
[58:24]
the project and not directly to to his
[58:27]
com competitors. And you know, I guess
[58:30]
you you used a a sandwich analysis. I
[58:33]
think this would end a sandwich. Well,
[58:38]
if you were a
[58:41]
sandwich emporium. Uh I think you would
[58:45]
be reluctant to uh to to go and buy all
[58:48]
your sandwiches from the competitor to
[58:51]
donate to the city. You'd want to do it
[58:53]
yourself. So, so I I think this
[58:55]
recognizes uh you know the uh the the
[58:58]
the ability of local contractors or
[59:02]
local businesses to have an impact but
[59:06]
uh you know to to put more of their
[59:09]
their signature their face on the on the
[59:11]
donation.
[59:14]
» I think Mrs. uh Miss Simon's um remark
[59:17]
was that giving should be easy and this
[59:20]
makes it easier. So it's a good thing.
[59:22]
Councelor Deiri.
[59:23]
» Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. I also
[59:25]
wanted to point out too that what we've
[59:27]
Miss Woods put together here also
[59:29]
ensures the integrity portion, which is
[59:31]
if we did receive an inind donation that
[59:34]
doesn't in any way uh make preferential
[59:38]
purchasing as well. So, we are still
[59:40]
going to maintain that integrity. We're
[59:42]
going to make sure that we're getting
[59:43]
the best possible service or product for
[59:47]
our uh taxpayers. So, yeah. Yeah.
[59:50]
Exactly.
[59:52]
Are there any other questions or
[59:53]
comments?
[59:55]
Seeing none, we'll call the question.
[59:57]
» Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[59:58]
matter before you, councelor Deiri, how
[1:00:00]
do you wish to vote?
[1:00:00]
» Yes.
[1:00:01]
» Councelor Earl,
[1:00:02]
» Yes.
[1:00:03]
» Councelor Hobbs,
[1:00:04]
» Yes.
[1:00:05]
» Councelor Calvass,
[1:00:06]
» Yes.
[1:00:06]
» Councelor Severson,
[1:00:07]
» Yes.
[1:00:08]
» Councelor Wales,
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» Yes.
[1:00:09]
» Chair Fullerton,
[1:00:10]
» Yes.
[1:00:10]
» That is carried. Thank you.
[1:00:13]
» So, um, moving on to new business, we
[1:00:15]
have reports from, uh, members of
[1:00:17]
council, the recreation committee. Um,
[1:00:19]
is there anything new to report?
[1:00:20]
Councelor Severson,
[1:00:22]
» No report. I think we've kind of
[1:00:24]
exhausted uh recreation uh for now. So,
[1:00:28]
most of what was discussed at our
[1:00:29]
meeting has been talked about tonight.
[1:00:31]
So, thank you.
[1:00:32]
» Uh thank you. Um Brock Trail, I don't
[1:00:35]
believe we've had a a meeting uh since
[1:00:38]
uh we we talked last, but certainly um
[1:00:41]
there's lots of activity going on at
[1:00:43]
John Taylor Park and um there's uh the
[1:00:47]
committee members are extremely excited.
[1:00:49]
They're sharing pictures of the footings
[1:00:52]
going in for the different um uh park
[1:00:55]
benches that are going to be part of
[1:00:57]
that project and also for the uh C10
[1:01:00]
figures which are going to be there's
[1:01:01]
the metal sculpture that's going to be
[1:01:03]
part of that park. So, we're uh excited.
[1:01:06]
The U footings have gone in for the um
[1:01:09]
uh there's going to be a rod iron uh
[1:01:11]
decorative uh fence. So, uh, uh, those
[1:01:14]
are starting to be poured and, um, yeah,
[1:01:17]
very, very excited to see that project
[1:01:20]
coming to fruition. So, uh, yeah.
[1:01:24]
Um, councelor Calabas or councelor Oh.
[1:01:28]
Oh, sorry, I've skipped. Um, Katarok Way
[1:01:31]
Conservation Authority. Councelor Hobbs
[1:01:33]
or Councelor Earl? I need to report.
[1:01:34]
» The meeting's tomorrow night, so you
[1:01:37]
could skip us.
[1:01:37]
» Great. Next month, we'll hear we'll
[1:01:39]
we'll hear about that. Uh, councelor
[1:01:41]
Calivas or councelor Severson on St.
[1:01:43]
Lawrence Lodge.
[1:01:44]
» Nothing to report. It'll be next month.
[1:01:46]
» Okay. Thank you. Uh, councelor Wales uh,
[1:01:50]
Aquitarium.
[1:01:51]
» Uh, just the update we had at the
[1:01:53]
beginning of the meeting. So, we're
[1:01:54]
welcoming new members, but also uh, the
[1:01:56]
Aquitarium members. So, that's the city
[1:01:58]
of Brockville and Btown Brigantine had
[1:02:00]
their AGM uh, this week as well, which
[1:02:03]
went well. Um, and uh, we're looking
[1:02:06]
forward to uh, the board meeting I think
[1:02:08]
again for a regular meeting in
[1:02:09]
September.
[1:02:10]
» Yes. Yes.
[1:02:11]
» And uh on to the library board. Uh we
[1:02:13]
don't have a meeting in August, so
[1:02:15]
September.
[1:02:16]
» Okay. DBIA councelor Derry.
[1:02:19]
» Uh not a lot to report, just that we're
[1:02:21]
four weeks away from our September shop
[1:02:23]
the street culture days. So I'll just
[1:02:25]
keep reminding everybody every time we
[1:02:27]
have these announcements.
[1:02:29]
» Excellent. Excellent. So we have no
[1:02:32]
unfinished business uh bylaws.
[1:02:42]
Okay.
[1:02:44]
» Yes. Okay. So I So I read this or
[1:02:48]
councelor Deir read.
[1:02:49]
» Yes. Okay. So uh the reading of the
[1:02:52]
bylaws. Councelor Deir, would you read
[1:02:54]
those? And councelor Wes, would you
[1:02:56]
second that? I will.
[1:02:56]
» Yes. Thank you.
[1:02:58]
» Okay. Hey, that bylaws numbered 056206
[1:03:02]
and 6 060 2026 to 063 2026
[1:03:07]
be introduced and the same be now read a
[1:03:09]
first, second, and third time signed by
[1:03:11]
the mayor and the clerk sealed with the
[1:03:12]
seal of the corporation and be recorded.
[1:03:16]
Thank you. Um
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all those in favor
[1:03:22]
carried. Thank you. Um I have no
[1:03:25]
announcements. Uh
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media question period.
[1:03:30]
» Thank you. Um John Lawless with the
[1:03:34]
Recorder and Times. I had a few
[1:03:35]
questions about the uh MURF project and
[1:03:37]
as well as a couple about the crosswalk.
[1:03:39]
So
[1:03:40]
» Um I'll try not to take up too much of
[1:03:41]
your time, but uh I was trying to
[1:03:43]
visualize the project based on the
[1:03:46]
design and I was wondering are any it
[1:03:48]
might be for Mr. Wood. Are there any
[1:03:50]
baseball diamonds being removed at uh at
[1:03:52]
the Murf project? I'm just wondering how
[1:03:54]
the total will stack up, I guess.
[1:03:56]
» Yes, Director Woods.
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» Uh thank you. So, in reality, when the
[1:04:02]
project is fully underway, when the new
[1:04:04]
expansion is going, um two diamonds will
[1:04:06]
have to be relocated. So, part of what
[1:04:09]
we're doing today actually establishes
[1:04:11]
two new diamonds to make way for that
[1:04:13]
expansion when it happens. And again,
[1:04:15]
part of the the key to the way we're
[1:04:17]
doing it actually is that uh we'll have
[1:04:19]
one of the new ones ready to go for
[1:04:21]
spring 27 and then the next one ready
[1:04:23]
for 2028. So conceivably we will have
[1:04:26]
one extra diamond by the spring,
[1:04:28]
» Right?
[1:04:29]
» Then one will be removed and made into
[1:04:30]
pickle ball. So it is a bit of a domino
[1:04:32]
effect, but the reason we're phasing it
[1:04:34]
as you kind of identified is that um was
[1:04:37]
that we don't lose any capacity. Nobody
[1:04:39]
has to be put out to play somewhere
[1:04:40]
else.
[1:04:40]
» Right. And are the Ball diamonds are
[1:04:42]
they softball or hard ball or little
[1:04:44]
league or any mix of the the three or
[1:04:46]
» An excellent question. It's almost been
[1:04:48]
at one of our meetings.
[1:04:50]
» I'm just a big baseball fan.
[1:04:51]
» Yeah. Yeah. So So the reality is is that
[1:04:53]
the diamonds are being built to baseball
[1:04:55]
standards, but we know that
[1:04:57]
predominantly it's softball that's
[1:04:59]
played there. Now by bailing them to to
[1:05:01]
baseball standards with clay and and a
[1:05:03]
larger infield, both can happen. So,
[1:05:05]
we're really hoping that that any
[1:05:08]
changes we make with the MURF in general
[1:05:10]
allows a venue so that more can happen.
[1:05:13]
We want we really want to maximize any
[1:05:14]
of these kind of elements that we're
[1:05:16]
installing. So, um we know that softball
[1:05:18]
is on the rise and we know that that
[1:05:20]
that adult softball has been doing very
[1:05:23]
well. So, sorry, little league is on the
[1:05:24]
rise and adult softball has always been
[1:05:26]
very good. We don't have youth softball
[1:05:28]
in the city and we don't have adult
[1:05:30]
baseball in the city. So hopefully by
[1:05:32]
arranging these things the way we're
[1:05:33]
doing, we can allow all of those things
[1:05:35]
to happen.
[1:05:35]
» Absolutely. And um my other question was
[1:05:38]
about the pickle ball. Um so is it being
[1:05:40]
built on the current ball diamond that's
[1:05:42]
right in behind the memorial center? Is
[1:05:44]
that
[1:05:45]
» So So again, for reference, the the one
[1:05:46]
directly behind is the Goldie
[1:05:48]
Christopher. That's typically been where
[1:05:49]
the co-ed teams will play. Um the one
[1:05:51]
that's going to be available in 2028
[1:05:53]
will be the new Goldie, so to speak. Um,
[1:05:56]
so basically create that capacity for
[1:05:58]
when the goalie has to be demolished for
[1:06:00]
the expansion, which again we don't have
[1:06:02]
a date for necessarily, but we're going
[1:06:04]
to be be prepared for. Um, the Kinsman
[1:06:07]
uh, one diamond will be the location of
[1:06:09]
the pickle ball, the one that's the
[1:06:11]
southmost of the Kinsman diamonds. So
[1:06:13]
that's going to be the location of the
[1:06:14]
pickle ball and the location of a good
[1:06:16]
deal of the new parking lot when the
[1:06:18]
expansion happens. So again, the new the
[1:06:20]
the ball diamond that'll be ready in
[1:06:22]
2027 will be the new Kinsman Diamond and
[1:06:24]
the one that's ready in 2028 will be the
[1:06:26]
new Goldie and then the existing one
[1:06:29]
Kinsman diamond can become pickle ball
[1:06:31]
and the existing Goldie can operate
[1:06:33]
until we're ready to expand.
[1:06:34]
» Okay. And I know in the back part of the
[1:06:37]
memorial center there's an open field. I
[1:06:39]
believe there's some youth rugby that
[1:06:40]
takes place there, soccer. Is there
[1:06:42]
going to be any impact on those
[1:06:44]
organizations and that space as well or?
[1:06:46]
» So another great question. So that is
[1:06:47]
precisely why we built the new soccer
[1:06:49]
field uh on Laurier. So we spoke with
[1:06:53]
the local uh rugby and we spoke with the
[1:06:55]
local soccer uh groups and they
[1:06:57]
basically worked with us to say you know
[1:06:59]
we have this space if we build something
[1:07:01]
then you can maybe transplant a lot of
[1:07:03]
the youth soccer because it's about 90%
[1:07:06]
the size of a full pitch. Um from what
[1:07:08]
they said is that some of the gentlemans
[1:07:10]
will love the gentleman league will love
[1:07:11]
to play on a smaller pitch because you
[1:07:13]
know I certainly would play on a smaller
[1:07:14]
rank if I could. Um but uh but anyways
[1:07:17]
the idea was that that capacity then
[1:07:19]
allows transformation of that that
[1:07:22]
activity to move to the north side and
[1:07:24]
that the rugby uprights will be actually
[1:07:26]
transplanted to one of the full-size
[1:07:28]
pitches there so that rugby can continue
[1:07:30]
to play in cooperation with soccer and
[1:07:33]
they gain some more capacity with the
[1:07:35]
new pitches there. So all of these
[1:07:36]
things have been set up like dominoes
[1:07:38]
and they're starting to fall
[1:07:39]
» As we had planned and I think your
[1:07:41]
questions hit those nails on the head
[1:07:42]
for sure.
[1:07:42]
» Perfect. Thank you. And just one last
[1:07:44]
question about the um I think it was
[1:07:46]
about the roof. Just for clarification,
[1:07:47]
you said it will potentially it should
[1:07:49]
be done by the end of this week and then
[1:07:50]
ice will be in and people will be able
[1:07:52]
to use it soon, I guess.
[1:07:54]
» Yeah, actually. So So our staff are
[1:07:56]
planning to be building ice probably
[1:07:57]
around the clock for the next uh several
[1:07:59]
days leading up to the weekend. So Okay.
[1:08:01]
» Um I I haven't actually checked in with
[1:08:02]
that supervisor specifically because I
[1:08:04]
was out of the office today and
[1:08:05]
yesterday, but but when I had last
[1:08:07]
checked in with it, everything was going
[1:08:08]
to plan. All of the roof over the rink
[1:08:11]
is complete. Um then for I guess the
[1:08:13]
public's consumption um you will notice
[1:08:16]
that there will still be people working
[1:08:17]
on the outside. So the roof itself is
[1:08:19]
complete.
[1:08:20]
» The flashing will take a little while.
[1:08:21]
The flat roofs will then have some
[1:08:23]
ballast added to them. So there'll be
[1:08:24]
lots of activity always happening on the
[1:08:25]
outside probably right through till
[1:08:27]
maybe October. But the site itself is
[1:08:30]
currently a construction site. Will be
[1:08:32]
handed back over for the city's careman
[1:08:34]
care and control and then we'll be
[1:08:35]
building ice and have regular operations
[1:08:37]
on the inside.
[1:08:38]
» Perfect.
[1:08:39]
» That's the plan. And I might have a few
[1:08:41]
more for you if that's okay.
[1:08:42]
» This time about the crosswalk. Yeah,
[1:08:44]
sure. Um I I believe if I understood the
[1:08:46]
report correctly, there'll be a further
[1:08:48]
report coming to council for something a
[1:08:50]
little more definitive. I was just
[1:08:51]
wondering if there's might be a target
[1:08:53]
date uh on when the crosswalk might be
[1:08:56]
painted. I'm thinking like will it be
[1:08:57]
done for Remembrance Day kind of thing.
[1:08:59]
Is that
[1:08:59]
» So So again, we uh we were just looking
[1:09:00]
to coordinate kind of our own resources
[1:09:02]
in house because we're going to remove
[1:09:03]
all the uh interlock and paving stone
[1:09:05]
that makes up that current crosswalk.
[1:09:07]
And so that'll require us to close that
[1:09:09]
part of our street briefly just to pull
[1:09:11]
that out, prepare it, pave it, tamp it,
[1:09:14]
open it back up, and then uh in I think
[1:09:17]
it's the plan is uh midepptember to late
[1:09:19]
September. Then we're going to again
[1:09:21]
bring people in. We we have a a night
[1:09:23]
shift that does painting at like 2 a.m.
[1:09:25]
So we'll come in, close it again.
[1:09:27]
» There'll be a crew that takes it on and
[1:09:28]
then ideally is open it up for the next
[1:09:30]
day's worth of traffic. And if we need
[1:09:32]
to do a second night, then we'll go at
[1:09:33]
it. Again, that's part of what I tried
[1:09:35]
to convey in the in the um in the report
[1:09:38]
is that we're great at painting roads. I
[1:09:40]
don't know how artistic we can be with
[1:09:42]
machinery we have, but we're going to
[1:09:43]
figure it out. It's going to be very
[1:09:45]
presentable and and respective
[1:09:46]
respectable. So,
[1:09:48]
» We also don't know 100% how much upkeep
[1:09:50]
it'll take. So, we may have to repeat
[1:09:51]
that throughout the year. And the number
[1:09:52]
that you're referring to, um everything
[1:09:54]
we've got pretty much at this point, we
[1:09:56]
can handle within the established budget
[1:09:57]
and manpower that we have. But uh to
[1:10:01]
keep this in good condition, we'll
[1:10:02]
probably have to come back and budget
[1:10:04]
and say this is the increment that it
[1:10:05]
takes to do this sort of thing. So it's
[1:10:07]
not like a crosswalk that we do once a
[1:10:09]
year. We're going to have to come back
[1:10:10]
and have some folks on night shift to
[1:10:12]
touch it up and keep it clean and keep
[1:10:14]
it good.
[1:10:14]
» Yeah. And Yeah. Do you think it would be
[1:10:16]
done by remembrance day then? Is that
[1:10:18]
kind of a thing? I thought you mentioned
[1:10:20]
mid September.
[1:10:21]
» Mid September I think is when we'll plan
[1:10:22]
to do it. Um the other thing is for
[1:10:24]
paint has to be warm out. So we got to
[1:10:26]
work with the weather as well. So that's
[1:10:27]
that's the criteria we're working with
[1:10:29]
and it is a bit of discovery as we go as
[1:10:31]
every municipality I've sort of looked
[1:10:32]
into has kind of figured it out a little
[1:10:34]
bit but it has to be uh weather
[1:10:36]
conditions are favorable for all the
[1:10:38]
right reasons. So yeah should be
[1:10:39]
September that's that's done and um we
[1:10:42]
do have a project landing page at the
[1:10:44]
city that we're trying to keep up to
[1:10:45]
date with some information so that you
[1:10:47]
know folks don't have to wonder what's
[1:10:48]
going on. So ideally update that as we
[1:10:50]
go and it usually hits social media so
[1:10:52]
it should be something fairly
[1:10:53]
conspicuous I hope.
[1:10:54]
» Perfect. And I my final question was
[1:10:56]
just about the design. I know there were
[1:10:57]
some discussions about the design and
[1:10:59]
the photo that was included in the
[1:11:01]
report. So is that kind of the template
[1:11:03]
with maybe there might be some kind of
[1:11:06]
» Deviation depending on suggestion or
[1:11:08]
things like that or
[1:11:08]
» That's right. When we spoke to the
[1:11:10]
legion actually and I think councelor
[1:11:11]
pointed out as well is that there was
[1:11:13]
idea of poppies. Poppies are actually a
[1:11:15]
trademark of the legion. Um there was
[1:11:17]
lots of little things that we could do
[1:11:19]
figures and and and and nomenclature and
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all kinds of things. So when the legion
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looked at it, they actually selected the
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one that has been widely used in a lot
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of municipalities. So it uses the white
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ladder bars as I mentioned is required
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to include but also has you know a bit
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of memory a bit of messaging as a
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commemoration and also the maple leafs
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and these sort of things. So it's very
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similar to the ones I actually mentioned
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in the report and I can't name off the
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top of my head but yeah
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» This same one has been scaled up and
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down in many communities. So that seems
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to be maybe the the new standard so to
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speak but that's where it came from and
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that's what we're playing about. Yeah.
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» Right. Thanks for letting me grill you
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for a bit. Anyhow, that's it for me.
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Thank you,
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» Councelor Severson.
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» Not a media question, but uh we I think
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we missed on all the work going on at
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the Memorial Center. I've had some
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questions on the south side of the
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memorial center is the skateboard park.
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Can you just confirm that that's going
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to remain where where it is and yes,
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all's good for the skateboarders?
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» Yes. Yes, all is good for the
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skateboarders. Um yeah, so there's no uh
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plan to change that at all. Um, in fact,
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if I would love to actually share the
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designs with anybody who's interested,
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but uh the the actual MURF project will
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see a road come in between the existing
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moral center and the skate park and then
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enter a brand new parking lot at the
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back and then come back around on the
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west side. So, um, there's a lot of
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detail. Well, it's all you, of course,
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engineering plots and stuff like that.
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But I' be happy to share them to show
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people because it's actually quite
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exciting when you see pickle ball,
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skateboard park, ball diamonds, rock
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trail, play structures, rink facility,
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walking track, community halls, all in
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one spot. And that's kind of the essence
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that we've we've tried to actually
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characterize is not just a rink because
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it certainly isn't.
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» Yeah. Awesome. Uh that's good. Okay. Um
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we do have an in camera uh session. So
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uh why don't uh we'll take a couple
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minutes. Should we read the motion
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before or when we get back?
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» Read it now. Okay.
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» Oh, okay. So we'll take a two-minut
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break to allow our uh guests to vacate
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the room and then we'll have a um an in
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camera