[0:00] ? ? Thank you very much, ladies

[0:14] and gentlemen, thank you for being with us this morning. I we do have some guests here

[0:21] today. I would like to call this meeting of the Broward Housing Council to order. It

[0:25] is 10, 0, 7, Sue, if you would, please, to the role. Good morning, everyone. Just

[0:31] full of Allegan here. Marcia Barry Smith. Mora Bowman. Michelle Callie. That daily.

[0:40] Kerrigan. Arnold choice here. can or cannot join us today. Chris Chrisman here. Pearson.

[0:53] Nathan Perlmutter here. Commissioner Rogers. Stone here. Taylor. I know she's

[1:03] here. Mission is here. She is here right now. And we do have a quorum. Thank you. Thank you

[1:08] very much. >> we are going to jump right into our agenda and get this

[1:15] moving right along. I apologize for starting a few minutes late. I did tell you

[1:20] to is here. And yes, she absolutely is. Sandra Vz Einhorn, the one and only

[1:26] please enlighten us. Arnott and lightning. But >> good morning, everyone.

[1:36] >> Nice to see friendly longtime faces and for those of you that I'm just meeting

[1:41] for the first time, Sandra Jessee Einhorn. So nice to meet you. I believe in

[1:44] technically on the agenda twice. But for now, I just wanted to introduce myself and

[1:48] the Coordinating Council of Broward. think the easiest thing to do is introduce

[1:55] myself as Ralph Stone's longtime sidekick. Perhaps the one that causes the troubles

[2:00] that he can come in and then diplomatically smooth things out. But the coordinating

[2:05] Council of Broward is a local nonprofit. The mission of the Ccb is to unite Business

[2:12] Government and nonprofit in advocacy and coordination of Health and Human Services.

[2:17] It's really sort done flowed since the 90's. And I took over in 2016 2016 was after

[2:26] the Great Recession. But long before COVID it was the first time that the Alice report was

[2:32] published as everyone familiar with the Alice report. We are around the table. Yes, okay.

[2:38] So out the Alice report came out and lo and behold, it health and human service

[2:44] stakeholders. That housing was really the biggest issues. So if we weren't addressing

[2:49] housing affordability whether you worked in health care or education or child welfare,

[2:54] you weren't going to be able to be successful if housing affordability was and being

[2:58] addressed. I had known Mr. Stone from my previous role in it nonprofit called Rebuilding

[3:04] Together. And I marched into outs office in 2016 and I said, guess what? I have brand

[3:09] new people at the table that all recognize the importance of housing. We're going to

[3:14] move. We're going to move that needle. We're going to get something done. And I I joke

[3:18] that he perhaps respected me too much to tap me on the head and say sure. But he did say.

[3:27] Getting half getting half getting a not really. And I say that I really say that to

[3:32] say because back in 2016, the landscape around housing, affordability looked a lot

[3:36] different. You know, the the macroeconomics of housing affordability certainly does

[3:41] preclude local government from making the kind of investments that they need to make with

[3:45] amendment 3 looming. I think we can all appreciate and many of you have served on this

[3:49] board for a long time or have your own city budgets to contend with that. You know,

[3:53] it's hard to make those lots of 0 investments into housing. Nonetheless, then Senator Nan

[4:01] Rich, now county commissioner in and Rich was running for office on the County

[4:06] commission and really believed in really bought into the recognition that without

[4:10] addressing housing affordability, everything else is sort of stalling. And both

[4:14] resilience of our community, the sustainability, the ability for residents and

[4:17] business owners to thrive. Israeli inhibited by the lack of affordable options in

[4:22] Broward County. And so in 2018, the court anyhow led the effort on the November 2018

[4:30] ballot to create the Broward County Affordable Housing Trust Fund. We were pleased

[4:36] that that passed with 74% of the vote. I know that politics is toxic. Now. It really

[4:41] wasn't any different in 2018. And so I think that 74% of voters again showed that

[4:47] overwhelmingly 3 out of 4 household in Broward County recognized in some way, shape

[4:51] or form that housing affordability was an issue that we all need take

[4:55] seriously. I am so pleased to share that over the last near decade, we have made

[5:02] tremendous strides in housing, affordability, efforts and the court meeting Council, quite

[5:07] frankly, works off of your plans. So your work plan is sort of our on official guide.

[5:12] And so all the things that you have in your your work plan are the things that year to

[5:15] year. We do. We focus on engaging with elected officials and the business

[5:21] leaders and certainly during budget season with members of the board of County

[5:25] commissioners to ensure that housing affordability really stays top of mind. The court

[5:31] Dayton Council works on all issues at a system level with housing, affordability and

[5:34] homelessness being the most critical. But obviously, over the last decade, we've worked

[5:37] on census and COVID the MSD shooting Behavioral Health. Really all the issues that

[5:46] come up that are recognized to be county wide and need to come out of a specific system

[5:52] silo. I also serve on the county's homeless continue of care board. And I am super

[5:57] honored to be a gubernatorial appointee to the Florida Housing Finance Corporation

[6:02] board of directors. I've served there since 2019 and since 2025 has served as their

[6:08] chair. So housing affordability is something that I'm really passionate

[6:11] about. While I don't show up to these meetings, I read all of the agendas and I read all

[6:14] of the minutes and certainly communicate with many of you. And quite frankly, one of the

[6:20] reasons why I never served on the Broward Housing Council was because I felt like I

[6:25] could do more, not serving on the board and just being able to communicate with different

[6:29] members and work to try and convene. And so I believe that the proposed convening is on

[6:34] the agenda for later. So I don't know if anyone has any questions or if anyone has

[6:41] anything else. But views an overview. Thank you any questions for Senator?

[6:53] >> Seeing none. I know that we are live streaming and made a bit of a foe. Part of just say

[6:56] everybody around the table knows what Alice says, but just for the people that are

[7:03] tuned in, can you just give a quick explanation? Absolutely. So the United Way publishes a

[7:05] report. Alice is an acronym that stands for Asset, Limited Income, constrained and

[7:12] employed. >> You can go to United Way Broward's website and read the

[7:14] most recent updated Alice report. It is now national. But Broward was one of the

[7:21] early adoptees. And Alice is a a great way to really better understand the community.

[7:28] Nearly half of Broward County households are Alice or below meaning that nearly half of

[7:31] Broward County households could not withstand a $500 financial emergency.

[7:41] >> Thank you very much, Sandra. You're welcome stay where you're at because we are

[7:43] definitely going to bring you back in the discussion of the Broward Housing Council Fall

[7:47] Workshop. When we get to new business, that being said, I would to accept a motion to

[7:52] approve the minutes from the June. 26 meeting. Thanks very much. Moved and seconded. Are

[7:59] there any corrections or discussion regarding the minutes? Seeing none. All

[8:04] those in favor. Please say Any opposed. Thank you very much. The meetings minutes are

[8:12] approved. Moving into chair's report being that we are coming out of summer. I know

[8:17] that 2 nation and Beth do have reports to give. So I'm going to defer my time to them and

[8:22] start with Tunisia with our continuum of care advisory board report.

[8:30] >> Thank you. Chair. Good morning, everyone. So my report for to seize really

[8:41] brief this morning there, the discussion of the as well. First, to see the homeless

[8:46] continuum of care meets monthly. So where this report covers July and August as

[8:55] well. The discussion for the last 2, 2, meetings, 2 months has primarily centered on the

[9:01] HUD notice of funding, which is about half of the funding source for the homeless

[9:10] activities that we see in Broward County. And the conversations has really

[9:18] centered conversation has really centered around. That. The funding has been

[9:25] litigated. 4 different know, know folks have been released and they have been challenged

[9:29] in court. So that's been the primary discussion. And as of yesterday, the decision as to

[9:35] whether the funding that existing know for that went out in the summer would be

[9:39] funded. It's still pending a decision. So. What I want to percent also to the board

[9:47] that. I came out of this month's meeting was the Broward Public Schools. report

[9:57] and Hart stands for Homeless Education Assistance Resource Team. I learned about this

[10:03] initiative on the H 2, 0, seaboard. And one that one of the data that was reported by

[10:12] by the Heart team which focuses on identifying it's a team that identifies. Students

[10:18] that are affected by homeless that are either homeless at risk. The numbers were quite

[10:25] astonishing where we have. 67 student center currently living in a shelter. 995 that

[10:32] are doubled up. Living or 8 have doubled up living arrangement. 57 in living in a

[10:41] car. And 100. And 49 students, of course, with their families living in a hotel. So. I had

[10:53] to sit with that, too, for a moment. So I just wanted to bring those stat. I know where

[11:01] planning our workshop. And I think affordability takes on a has taken on a new dimension.

[11:08] With. Given, you know, incomes, rising prices, inventory. So I I present

[11:19] this. We've talked about seniors, but we also talk about the rippling effects to

[11:21] families. As homelessness, right? Going being a student going to school, doubled up,

[11:28] living in a car. So I think it's something, you know, I'm bringing this stat so that we

[11:36] include in our conversations, we plan workshops and information that are that

[11:40] that's going to be given at our workshop this this November, October. And that

[11:47] concludes my report. Thank you very much. To nation. Yes, sir. That make to start again.

[11:56] 67. 67. Students in a shelter. 995. In a double dip living arrangement. 57 in a living in

[12:11] a car and 149 living in a hotel. I also shared the report with sue so she can

[12:16] share to the chair. Thank you to nation. What does doubled up. You basically. Double for

[12:37] 2 families living together. So, for example, let's say, right? Like a time when I move

[12:40] in with family or friends, I do want to call it couch surfing. But that's part of

[12:43] it. Yeah, us or if they live in family, does that count MS? That's a good question. What

[12:55] I've learned Being on the board is that there is a definition for differ for

[13:03] homelessness. There's a McKinney, Vento definition. So unhoused being displaced.

[13:13] There's segment Haitians of of homelessness. >> So in this case. You

[13:19] wouldn't consider that as being unhoused. Again shared living. That is I would say

[13:30] involuntary. It's something to be considered that, you know, you have 2 families that are.

[13:34] Compelled to live together. That's something that. What I would if I had to define into

[13:43] buckets, I would put that at risk. chomping at the bit to give us a.

[13:50] >> little more thank you for jumping in here. So 2 things, one, it came for hours. But

[13:57] the appellate court yesterday denied the motion to stay. It means that the lower court

[14:03] order vacating know fo remains in effect and there's no funding opportunities at this

[14:05] time for local SEO seas. We will see what happens in the courts, but that is huge. But

[14:12] to what Taneisha said, she's right. So there's 2 definitions. There's the high

[14:15] definition of homelessness, which is a very narrow definition of homelessness.

[14:20] And then there's the Federal act, which is the McKinney Vento Act, which is geared

[14:24] towards families and children and has a much broader definition of homelessness. So

[14:29] part of the challenge and serving families in across the country, not just in Broward

[14:35] is you might be homeless by definition of the McKinney Vento Act. But you still might

[14:39] not qualify for any of the HUD programs because you do not meet the high definition of

[14:45] homelessness. So it's why sometimes the data around homeless children, homeless

[14:48] families is not. Entirely accurate because it depends on which definition you're using

[14:54] and then who's engaging it as another example of McKinney Vento Act. If you live in a

[15:01] trailer home that meets the definition of doubling up living in a hotel and living

[15:10] in a mobile home or 3 examples that would qualify for homelessness under the

[15:15] MCKINNEY-VENTO Act but would not qualify for homelessness under HUD. Michelle, did you

[15:19] have a question? >> But I just wanted to comment based on time that

[15:27] I've set on committee when my son was in elementary school, in addition to these numbers,

[15:32] are those that are not reported, meaning that those students, I just want us to

[15:37] really understand that this is these are the ones that filled out the documentation. With

[15:41] the truthful information. We found that there are several others and the majority of the

[15:47] families did not complete it that way. So we definitely we already knew we were in a

[15:52] crisis. I feel like when a tsunami where it's jus overwhelming. And so just to

[15:58] hear those numbers, I am. >> Yeah, I agree. It is quite sobering. And when we hear

[16:08] those numbers, those are statistics that we talk about. But that part of what I was

[16:13] going to to my report before I chose to it sort just to give that time to nation. Beth, I

[16:20] had a quick story that I want to tell because I did experience one of these

[16:24] families just a few weeks ago at a customer's home. When I went to visit them and they

[16:32] had said, you know, we've seen on the ring camera that this car has just been parked out

[16:37] front and it's been there day after day after day. It never moves. And I think that

[16:39] there's people living in that vehicle. And hearing that I get to get a peek outside and

[16:46] sure enough there was whole family that was inside of that car and I approached them

[16:53] whole purpose was really introduce to Joseph Kanter and the whole program and to let

[16:59] them know that there were resources available and what he was doing for the community

[17:03] and people in and their situation. And what was surprising was how defensive

[17:08] they became in saying that word or dashing. You know, I don't understand why are why

[17:15] are bothering me and that they had a little girl in the backseat. And I just wanted to

[17:18] say, I'm here as an advocate for you. I'm here as a friend. you don't have to, you know,

[17:23] tell me about the door dash ing thing, your car as it moved in in days. And I

[17:27] understand that. I just want you to know the resources that are available and it took them

[17:32] a very long time. And it was a very long discussion before they finally warmed up. But

[17:37] these are not just numbers. These are real people that we're advocating for and that

[17:40] we're hoping so I just want to let you know appreciated the work is that we're all doing

[17:47] here. It it whenever we can. We really need to get that word out and make sure that

[17:51] people understand that there is hope and that there are avenues that they can that

[17:55] they can follow in order to receive the assistance that they need. That being Beth, we

[18:03] will move on to what Florida Realtors has been doing. >> Chris and are back from the

[18:12] Florida Realtor Summer Convention. Where we introduced a new slate of

[18:17] leadership for 2027 and went over a lot of they're not put motion talking points I

[18:27] brought home some great information. I'd like to know Could we have someone come

[18:36] here and talk about amendment 3? I thought how you explained at.

[18:44] >> We certainly could. The next meeting's going to be on October 23rd. So that is going

[18:46] to before. Election time. But as far as our well, that's going to be for the work. That

[18:56] is the workshop on October 23rd right? On many others has been proposed as a date for

[19:08] our workshop. On another note, as far the parameters of this. Council wouldn't be proper

[19:13] for. The county body to be having a discussion pre-election on amendment 3

[19:19] from. Certain organization that may have a stance one way or another.

[19:27] >> answer would be no. I mean, my understanding is, you know, we are allowed to present

[19:34] basic facts, but we're we're prohibited from taking any particular position. are

[19:40] sponsoring and they did take a stance so that we wouldn't be able to that path.

[19:46] >> All right. So a few things that I found to be very exciting I am on the

[19:56] affordable housing. Attainable workforce. Housing think tank. And we talked about how many

[20:07] families were helped by the hometown heroes. And that. Program has been incredibly

[20:13] successful they were saying that 58,000 first-time homebuyers were assisted with

[20:22] 1.6 billion dollars in mortgage assistance. So that was great the list of

[20:33] eligible. People now has been shrunk at one point, it included only first

[20:43] responders, health care workers, then kind of opened up to everybody in the world.

[20:48] Even a massage therapist. Now has been reduced again back to police fire. First responders,

[20:54] medical like that. It is a fabulous program. If you know of anyone who's buying a home.

[21:02] Please make sure that you explain or tell them to look up. Hometown heroes. It's it's

[21:07] a great program. I found that Gainesville. Has the neediest. I send everything to Suzanne

[21:20] this morning. They have free accessory dwelling unit plans on their website. And they're

[21:28] fantastic. So that matters because it eliminates that cost. Somebody who wants to

[21:37] add a to use. So check out the city of Gainesville website and you could just. At ad used

[21:45] to search are. St. Petersburg also has an incredibly successful ad. You program.

[21:56] Also on their website. So same, go visit St. Petersburg and look up to use and one

[22:02] they're doing. It looks like it's really success. What else do I have? The road to Housing

[22:12] Act was signed into law on July. 11th. And this was effort to address a major

[22:21] driver of housing affordability. So please. As as members of the council read

[22:28] about the 21st Century rode the Housing Act. It's going to be very helpful to all And it

[22:36] does also to use. Appraisal changes. We have been able to get to Fannie Mae and they are

[22:50] now teaching appraisers how to value up to 3 ad use on a single family property. Which

[22:57] is fantastic.

[23:13] And on kind of us. A more serious note, rather than cheerful news. Is

[23:21] that condominiums reserve requirements are now moving again from 10% to 15%. So this

[23:34] again effect a lot of our seniors who are in on, you know, Social Security and

[23:40] limited income families on limited income certainly the value. Of the condominiums. it

[23:51] a robust meeting. It was a I've been up there. Here's I didn't go this year. I had to

[24:00] attend remotely. Chris, was there but ice for me, it was one of the most exciting

[24:07] educational meetings we've ever had. Thank you, Beth. Any questions for breath? It's a

[24:17] Yes, sir. >> It just wanted to announce on amendment 3, 1, to find

[24:19] information and amendment 3 broadly, city's posted released on Wednesday, educate

[24:26] on 3, just typing broadly. city's educate on 3. You find information fights about on

[24:33] news. Each municipality. Thank you, sir.

[24:52] Okay. That being said, we will move on to our directors report with Darby.

[24:56] Good morning, everyone. So we have a few things going on yesterday. Unfortunate had to

[25:00] jump off part of that. >> We did have a meeting with many of the city's was lead in

[25:07] large part by Mr. Stone. Regarding our >> Municipal 4 car dashboard

[25:16] to try to keep track of some of the affordable housing projects that are going on to

[25:18] that was. could use a believe it or not. We had was pretty good at. But if you didn't

[25:28] hear about 30 to 31 individuals from the very stuff of cities tend this is a

[25:34] dashboard that basically we're maintaining with inside. Our division. My GIS staff will

[25:38] maintain it. And we've given them a the deadline is September 3rd to start getting

[25:46] that information in the initial upload of projects that they have. And then

[25:49] they'll be just sort of an ongoing. Item that we just continue to maintain. if you

[25:55] all recall, this was part of the part Housing Council 2026 work. Program. The division

[26:04] itself as a couple of requests for applications that are coming up. We have. Some lands

[26:13] that the county currently owns. And we're looking to have them redeveloped or

[26:21] affordable housing. One of them was site that was acquired some time ago to

[26:24] about 7.3 1 acres. It actually within the city of Fort Lauderdale and its. Within a

[26:32] neighborhood of Fort Lauderdale. A lot of the underlying plat have the name

[26:34] Rock Island. So were branding this thing as the Rock Island homes. All right. Just off of

[26:40] I believe 19th. We've been working closely with the surveyors at Highway

[26:46] Construction Engineering Division. And we believe that we have a layout that would

[26:54] accommodate somewhere between 35 and 36. Single-family homes. With average lot sizes

[27:00] with about frontage of roughly 60 feet in depth of anywhere from 100 to 120 feet and

[27:05] death. To be able to pull it off. So the idea with this particular RFA is we would put

[27:12] it out there on the street. Developers would on it. And then they would be awarded.

[27:17] That land was with certain. Milestones that they have to achieve or that development,

[27:27] including a rezoning. And what have you it is necessary. We have worked out with Fort

[27:31] Lauderdale. What that path would look like for the redevelopment. So that.

[27:36] Whoever acquires property understands exactly what they're doing for lower

[27:38] understands and anticipates getting this. So that's that's one of the projects that will

[27:42] be a good one because that'll actually lend itself to actual home ownership. And I think I

[27:49] think we were talking about doing the traditional 15 year, the fort ability on on this

[27:52] type of product. The other one that we're looking at, we internally called to Wheeler

[28:02] partially because those were the 2 pre prior owners of these properties. This one is

[28:07] actually within Broward Municipal Services District. This one is on the northwest

[28:15] corner of 27th Avenue insist trunk is. This was roughly about 2 acres. It actually was

[28:25] initially a little bit smaller. But one of the things we were able to do is working

[28:32] again through Highway Construction engineering division in Britain, highways

[28:37] require additional lots that fronted along 20th Avenue, which were originally

[28:41] purchased. When they were doing the improvements to says Trump Boulevard, it was

[28:49] initially anticipated that those lots are going to use for drainage. Will we

[28:51] discovered they weren't. We were able to loop this whole thing into one larger

[28:55] property. Like I said about too 0, 0, 8, acres. And so this one, again, we're going

[29:01] to do the request for applications. It'll be a good deal where we give the land.

[29:05] That will be part of gap financing, if you will. And on this one, what we would be

[29:12] looking for sort of a combination development. So for the corner piece, the

[29:18] original Wheeler Arsal a few. Well. We would look to 2 some type of a mixed use

[29:24] development right? So that you have a modest commercial footprint. think we're

[29:32] estimating somewhere around 3 to 4,000 Square feet and then units above that, whether new

[29:39] 3, 4, 5, You know, that's really going to become of a function of architecture. I

[29:44] penciled it out. And I'm anticipating we could probably get somewhere in the range of

[29:50] about 30 40 units, depending on how you count that. And then for those lots that line

[29:55] on. Systrom Boulevard portion which would be more narrow. We would then contemplate a

[30:05] purchase product of a townhome construction. So in the Bm St we actually have coach called

[30:10] Garden Park, which is granted after the names of the 4 neighborhoods in that area.

[30:17] Which would then allow for this town home tech construction, which would look

[30:19] almost like a stoop construction, meaning that you have, you know, a nice

[30:25] fronting on the 27th Avenue with porches, you know, elevated above 3 or 4 feet

[30:30] above the height of the sidewalk. And then all of your parking would be towards 2 or

[30:34] so would really present a nice sort of face to that. That particular street. We were I

[30:40] know. There's a lot of moving parts with this. Our original hope was trying to get these.

[30:48] These 2 are phased out. In September. We're working through just ESP, the Office

[30:56] of Economic and small businesses issues have to go in there and then

[30:59] particularly with Parsley project. We're going to incorporate a sort of

[31:05] applause, a site plan review when he's applications come in to make sure that whatever

[31:10] they're presenting, that it's something that the zoning code would actually accommodate.

[31:15] And so hopefully we can get these out in September. But we may be pushed to October for

[31:19] the advertising of some of these items. The desirability would be that some time when

[31:25] rolling into the new year 2027, we'll be at or near the awarding phase for these

[31:31] phase. Outside of that. Of course, we are. in the funding cycle for the next round of

[31:42] ship dollars which were issued in July. And forgive me with the coming budget. Not

[31:48] everyone. We're looking at another allocation. Or cdbg home and the esg The grants

[31:58] that we just got on. Chip side, which, you know, keep in mind that. You know, we only

[32:05] do a portion of the county. Is around 2 and a half million dollars. And then the

[32:11] allocation that we're anticipating. Or the other 3 grant funded programs. Is at

[32:18] about 8.1 million dollars. So. And a half going into the till to be able to use principally

[32:28] for purchase assistance and homeownership repair. Some of those, you know, based on the

[32:33] city's that we work with, some of that might be infrastructure as well Tuesday

[32:37] to support those neighborhoods that are in need. And then, of course, you've heard me say

[32:42] before I think we recently got our some of our comments back are on the cusp of getting

[32:48] your comments back on the community development block. Grant disaster relief. One

[32:52] that was based back on the 23 storm. And that one's about. 29 Million. 29 Million. routes

[33:02] going to get a big chunk of that about 12 and half million to apply. Projects that are

[33:09] going to have 70 unit or more. We're going to take some housing finance trust money

[33:14] about a million dollars combined 5 and a half million of this cdbg, DR money, which

[33:20] projects that 70 units or fewer. And then I think we're doing we still have about I

[33:26] think 6 million in infrastructure in there and those are probably some of the

[33:30] biggest pots of money that we're looking coming from that ad. Here's it's doing more

[33:35] than that. But that some of the big stuff that we're looking at. The the catch with

[33:38] the cdbg, Dr. Just so, you know, it really has to have some kind of tied back to the

[33:44] 23 storm. And with that, that is the director's report. Questions. Thank you, thank

[33:55] you. Darby. >> About zoning hurdles for the one project you are

[34:01] talking about. Can we not use live local? Just understand that.

[34:07] >> Live local in and of itself is vehicle too enable? Development to sort of avoid a

[34:18] rezoning process. It it doesn't in and of itself. Eliminate the need to rely

[34:24] upon a zoning provision, right? So when we contemplate, for instance, the first

[34:31] project, the Rock Island homes, wouldn't be eligible because it it's not really

[34:35] commercially so late. It's not going to have a commercial type of footprint. Now someone

[34:40] could come in, let's say, do an unsolicited and proposal live local project. And at the

[34:47] end of the day, what would what would happen is we would look at with their proposal is

[34:52] and then we would scour across what is within a half-mile of what zoning provision would be

[34:57] the most likely to apply and then they would use the very same Joni provision. I just

[35:02] mention to you, we would we would do that. What I believe a lot of governments are doing

[35:08] and some of the developers are well, they may be coming forth with live local and developing

[35:13] these things because of the expeditious manner in which they can get these approved.

[35:16] And sometimes zoning codes are already aligned with what they want. But a lot of cities are

[35:21] saying, okay, that's great. But understand, you know, live local comes with a 30 year,

[35:25] whatever ending date, why didn't we just go ahead and rezone anyway? So that? You

[35:31] know, go ahead with the live local. Go ahead with your project. But let's do the

[35:35] rezoning anyways. Just so that we know we have a predictable set of development guidelines

[35:39] that, you know, 4 years out when we are, you know, looking at okay of businesses coming

[35:46] into businesses going out. There is a redevelopment effort. There's of this.

[35:48] There's a that was a code enforcement action so that there's something that you

[35:50] can. Measurably manage that property by And I think it serves in my humble opinion.

[35:56] Everybody better in that regard. Okay. answer. For Nobody on I the 2 acre to 70

[36:07] cup property you contemplate and nonprofit for-profit developer or does it matter?

[36:16] All that matters because it's a it'll go through the RFA process. It there's not I

[36:22] don't believe that there's a value in whether it's a nonprofit for-profit for us.

[36:26] Its an affordable housing project in. That's what that developers going to have to

[36:30] deliver. That's what it would be written into that declaration of restrictive

[36:33] covenants. And then, you know, all the milestones that they're going to have to

[36:39] achieve in order to deliver that product or else that gets, you know, clawed back,

[36:42] OK, so then sit a follow-up question. I heard you saying given the property

[36:52] >> in other words will be in any kind market value, anything involving the that

[36:54] deal without pain. Whatever else would that be a case? It does doesn't have to right,

[37:02] OK? >> Right. the concept here is, but the land becomes the gap

[37:06] deal. Reichard and then you know it because in case of the Rock island homes, it then it

[37:13] may be incumbent upon Fort Lauderdale if they want step. In addition, Ali, to apply

[37:19] their own purchase assistance to individual owners, which would just be sort of like a

[37:21] bonus. We did that. I should really kind of throw this back at route because he did this.

[37:29] In the Bm St where we had in our last go around and he's done total around 100 of

[37:35] these. But the last go around. It was 12 where we had 12 lot. And we in this particular

[37:41] case, we did it with with not profits where we gave them the land. That was to get finance

[37:49] t I think we actually through another 50 grand for article and prep and then we came back

[37:55] on the buyer side with purchase assistance. But again, because this is for or

[38:01] they get significant allocation, you know, it'll be incumbent upon them to follow

[38:05] up on that other side. Great to 10. >> So that exactly the reason

[38:13] why I asked the question because I remember the requirement back forward was

[38:18] for nonprofit that which ends goes to Mike next recommendation of private.

[38:22] Some to think about. We talked earlier about dashboard for many spots is too low things

[38:29] in. I think it's it will be something to think about to start working with

[38:34] municipalities. Justice he said would put a lot can do something, puts U.S.

[38:38] assistance where we can do the same thing. That was by just going do the same thing.

[38:40] properties like that getting some and will use getting some des agreement that well, but

[38:49] just distance will be available if you do these. And I think that's something to

[38:52] think about and start working with MS policies Of course, as you know, my city did similar.

[38:57] So, you know, that will make the dashboard more robust, hopefully in the future. start

[39:04] having this collaboration. So strongly encourage that. Was thinking about that? Because

[39:10] responses do have land that they can do the same exact thing. they're short, that

[39:15] they will be assistance. >> I've determine so yeah. one of the things that we've done

[39:21] because we you know, we also have our division, we have real estate so for instance.

[39:29] You know, we have every 3 years we have to put up the list of properties available

[39:32] for before housing. So there we had a few lots that were in Oakland Park. So we're, you

[39:37] know, basically often those over to that they can do for housing with that, we're about

[39:44] to put up a new list. We're going to a bunch. Lots of Fort Lauderdale. Florida has a

[39:49] punch. A lot to be a mistake. So one of my desires that we get involved, a land swap with

[39:53] them, give us to be a nasty ones. Give you the full are the ones and lets lets you

[39:57] this. When you have more control over those properties, do the affordable housing

[40:01] piece and we know will be in the bms team. We have an interest in doing more

[40:06] affordable housing in mst, single-family home purchase type, which know, a big

[40:12] portion of the properties that we actually have in surplus. >> It's quick question. I have

[40:18] if we discuss Affordability crisis, these project. When competition, the finish. What

[40:30] will be the criteria would be based on buying or rent to. How would it work?

[40:34] >> Well, for the Rock Island home, that will be that will be a buyer program, right? So

[40:36] that will be. Yeah. The single-family homes. That will be a buyer scenario. With the

[40:46] Wheeler Aracely the one in the unincorporated neighborhood that's going to be a

[40:52] combination. right now with contemplated is that the town home portion of the

[40:56] development would a purchase. In probably some kind of H.O.A. or something set up

[41:03] manage that. And then the mixed use peas would likely be a rental just because of the

[41:09] complications associated with. A mixed use type development. You know It's a lot to sort of

[41:17] straddle on just a run of the Mill H.O.A. to also all of the now become a commercial.

[41:25] Landlord, if you will. So so we're looking at that that model there so that we can we

[41:32] can provide 2 options for folks. Our neighborhood. Is there

[41:46] >> target audio. What? What am I would you anticipate might be the purchaser say the rock

[41:48] island. And I think the rock on we doing one 20 and that when are we going, we're doing

[41:54] one 20. And then the broader question is that's great. All the efforts are. Are

[42:02] wonderful. But if we hear from Sandy that some people, 50% of the population can't sustain a

[42:08] $500 set back. And we have people living in cars that are reported with some consistency

[42:17] should there be an overall arch for this group to says to suggest names of the county

[42:19] commission, a focus on? Fund allocations policies. The needs at 120% and 60%. But

[42:28] there's also obviously needs at the bottom tier. are we just going to be universal in

[42:31] trying to hit? Every category of income deed. The per income category. Or should we be more

[42:38] focused? Well, so it lends itself to a much broader conversation, one of which the

[42:47] county commission in Ruston in particular have have been engaged You know, so we when

[42:51] we look at. Our phase, it, discussing today that sharing with you. Obviously, many of

[42:59] these are probably gonna hit sort of that. >> But 80 2 to one 20 range

[43:03] right? But to your point, there are other people who, you know, is there not

[43:13] necessarily, you know, individuals who would qualify for. The homeless assistance

[43:18] center that we have on sunrise and and 7th. But can't necessarily get themselves

[43:25] into some type of subsidized market housing right? And so, you know, one of the things

[43:32] that the commission has asked us to explore. The idea of what other type housing can we

[43:42] secure? You know, pallet housing. Is it? You know, taking over in renovating the

[43:47] old, you know, motels or hotels that have come up for sale. That, you know, they

[43:53] become a manage project I think Dade County does something similar. They have a

[43:56] property where they've they've done this. Where, you know, you're not in crisis mode and

[44:02] you're not the appropriate population to go into the crisis mode. Housing. Can't go

[44:08] into the one where your rent going to be expected to be at around 1700. But you may be

[44:12] you can swing 8, 9, 100 a month or whatever the number might be. These are other

[44:18] items that that we're exploring. And we're we're taking a look at obviously,

[44:22] you know, some of these things. You are going to require significant capital

[44:27] outlay, not just simply in the purchase of the land and the building itself, but then also

[44:33] what kind of retro fit to we have to do with the property. And then, you know, how does

[44:38] management structure of these types facilities actually function? Because each it's

[44:45] one thing to think that, you know, you just going to telling news people in it,

[44:50] let's say, but you still have to maintain a still have operate You know, there are

[44:53] many other things that still have to kind of happened here. And I think you know that when

[44:59] we talk about the number November 3rd, you ballot initiative, we don't even know

[45:05] what our financial footing is going to be then. So we're actively exploring that

[45:08] question right? And I think ultimately. As we progress and we start seeing some of these

[45:17] properties come available and we start asking ourselves some of these questions. And then

[45:19] we get past November 3rd and we understand what our financial footing is. We'll

[45:22] then be able to the more thoughtful as we sort of approach these decisions

[45:28] because is the county commission has expressed on more than one occasion and

[45:32] advocated by Mr. Stone. There is a real need. Within that regard and that that

[45:40] particular target population that you've identified. Mr. just follow up real quickly

[45:46] that there is. >> Not coincidentally, pretty nice balance between. The

[45:54] funding that the board puts toward the homelessness program. Neighborhood, home

[46:03] ownership and home repair programs which are supported by the 3 grants block grant

[46:05] ship. And then the Gap program in the bond programs I'm involved in. So. General, you

[46:13] can say that there around 25 million dollars for each of those strategies. The the

[46:22] important part of the gap program in the bond programs is when you're doing the

[46:27] bonds, are you that asked for programs you're getting down to cohorts that are 30% below

[46:35] up to a person blow, but generally between 16, 30. So you're getting. That very low

[46:39] renter. At a level that can sustain their wages that no more than 30% of their income,

[46:47] which means they're not cause burn. You know, that's the program. Senator and I were

[46:54] involved in kicking off back in 2018. We're marching towards 6,000 units and

[46:59] 200 million dollars and get financing. Is leverage almost a billion dollars in capital

[47:05] investment programs like it's a nice balance. People. get involved in the strategies.

[47:14] They're there is the homelessness peas people transition into housing. The

[47:19] rental program. And then the homeownership stuff. balance between those 3. questions

[47:24] aren't. the coroner property of the sis trunk and 27th Ave. The the mixed use. Art. Could

[47:40] not be higher. And then accommodate more and there's an additional addition to that

[47:49] is on single-family home. Lots that we have. Could we think about building one single

[47:59] family home and 3 ad use on that property. >> So

[48:10] >> fun times ahead and make clear was the 9 years I've spent to says owning

[48:12] administrator for the city of Hollywood. >> And

[48:16] >> one of the things you learn really quickly and that the clear type of job. Everybody

[48:24] has a different idea as to what has to happen on a particular property. And one

[48:30] of the biggest voices in that conversation are the people who live nearby. And every

[48:35] politician or I should say almost every politician is very sensitive to that

[48:42] particular conversation. So when we think about, for instance, the Rock Island home

[48:48] right? Ralph and had kicker and a number of different ideas as to what we could are

[48:58] are couldn't accomplish there. But ultimately the where we landed. Was a reflection of

[49:10] what was expressed through the neighborhood through the political body as to what

[49:13] would be desirable and accepted. And if you look at that community and when we put

[49:19] together the lots. We put together the lot in such a way that is reflective of how the

[49:26] rest of that community is laid out. So, you know, the zoning is the is reflected in the

[49:32] expectations of the community. That same thing applies towards to be am St. So when

[49:40] when I created this Garden Park Autry Development Code. It was created in close

[49:48] communication with the community to understand what it was that they were willing

[49:54] to accept concept of redevelopment with in your neighborhood, right? So you

[49:59] could we force upon them hired an to use? Yes. And often times when you do that, what

[50:05] you find is a backlash. And then you end up with even less. And I will tell you, I

[50:10] saw that happen. And when I was there a term Palmetto Bay. You know, and I I warned the

[50:18] city manager. Then if you do this, there's going to be a backlash. And so we got some

[50:22] of the initial stuff built that I said that this is what the community's going to

[50:25] tolerate. And in the moment the one project came in that I told him that the community

[50:29] won't tolerate a completely eliminated the code. Now nothing there gets built.

[50:35] Zoning to reflection of what the community wants. I understand and that's

[50:37] respectful. Any further questions. >> Seeing none. I do have a

[50:46] couple in regards to the mixed use property. We're talking about townhomes were talking

[50:50] about commercial, a commercial portion. >> And the potential for the

[50:59] mix to rentals above. Is it possible too, Bill that has a condominium style project as

[51:05] opposed to an H.O.A.. You're talking about the mixed use. One up.

[51:11] >> I mean, the simple answer is yes, we could do that. It's it just becomes a. A much more

[51:17] complicated project. And in Mr. Stone that we had a conversation about just a

[51:23] couple months ago because Dade done something similar. You know, legally, you can find a

[51:28] path. But this is this is the one thing. You know, I want you to also take into

[51:35] consideration right now. The current market. We have as much as we like homeownership,

[51:40] the current work. We have really favors. It weighs pricing. The waste can sing.

[51:44] really favors that could push that aside for one 0nd. Okay. Think about. Across the

[51:52] entire. Broad spectrum of Broward County, an H.O.A. Ys and how how they effectively

[51:59] manage. Getting the the community pool cleaned. The curbs fixed the grass cut. Now

[52:09] we're going to ask a very small community group become a commercial landlord. And it

[52:16] becomes a very partial landlord. You could sell those commercial units as commercial

[52:19] condominium units. I think you think complicated even further by doing that. I think it

[52:28] becomes a very challenging product. You can be done. Right? I mean, it certainly

[52:32] can be done, but just has a layer of complexity to the project. That could slow the

[52:40] whole thing down. You know, because as as it currently stands, you know, many of

[52:44] these developers may not have the incentive to move forward with it because they're trying

[52:47] to find a way to get this thing. The pencil out. And has a condo product that may not

[52:50] work. Another question is in regards >> The 15 year affordability

[53:01] component that would be in the restrictive covenants of Rock Island homes can you explain

[53:09] to the group why it would be a 15 year? Affordability component. Not something

[53:13] that's a longer term. I'm gonna I'm gonna put that one over Mr. mean, I've been part

[53:20] of the conversations, but >> he's been really in the weeds on this one. And I think

[53:25] it's important to hear from him on this. >> Yes, so he's historically

[53:29] we've been kind of around the world on the program, but about probably going on 15

[53:34] years ago. Now. Ford made a conscious decision that they wanted to balance

[53:43] >> the notion of the affordability period with wealth building. So on the

[53:51] rental side now were up around. We get a 99 year. Affordability periods a

[53:53] minimum of 50, but one in this last round of the RFA, the for projects that were funded all

[53:59] check to 99 Bucks as a one point. So. That's good. We're we're really extending on the

[54:07] rebel side on the home ownership side. The decision was to balance. Period of time

[54:09] that we would have it available to affordable family against the wealth building

[54:15] effect of that ownership. Strategy. makes sense. Thank you for that.

[54:23] >> And then just a comment mixed income of the. Of the leased property rentals that

[54:29] are going to be a 27 consist Rick, is there a? mixed income requirement for that I spent

[54:40] 17 years living Toronto where that became a wave worthy the city commission it's a scape

[54:48] in me now because they don't call them counties. The region but stress on there being

[54:54] mixed income just. Because of the effect that it had on the community to have people who

[55:01] are extremely low income living in the same building with people that were at, you

[55:06] know, various and Mize. Because it creates opportunity for many income classes that

[55:16] are in that building where your next door neighbor, maybe somebody who has, you know, a

[55:20] fantastic job that could you know, having that relationship with a neighbor, provide

[55:27] future opportunities for that takes a little bit of stress off of the government and

[55:31] government programs and really provides a pathway for that person, too. Know somebody

[55:36] that happens to be the next door neighbor in the same building and they can, you

[55:41] know, all boats rise with the Tide speak. So a couple thoughts on that. The the

[55:49] simple answer is this project is in onto plate. Okay. We're setting aside a certain number

[55:54] for 30, 60. important. It doesn't do Be frank on that part. In the in the planning

[56:03] parlance, when we talk about this concept of you know, not having just, you know, this

[56:09] enclave, a very wealthy enclave, very poor. When we look at this particular

[56:13] project. This one. It sounds like a dance project, but it really isn't. You know, when

[56:23] we putting this thing out to bid our anticipation. Or one of the criteria that we're

[56:30] putting into the RFA. We haven't kind of settled on the number yet. We're probably

[56:35] going to say something in the tune of maybe 40 45 units. I've penciled it out in my

[56:40] rudimentary architectural skills. That I learned in high school, not college.

[56:48] >> Got got me to it. Got me to about 50 units really sort of oppression. The threshold I

[56:52] think of an architect, got a hold of it. >> And really kind dug into

[56:55] the code. Maybe they'll get us more. Maybe look at its last were giving him bonus points

[56:59] for every additional you take. above that number but at the end of the day, it's not it's

[57:03] not. And credibly. Tension it's not a of units there. Where I think we would be

[57:12] effective in strata. Fine. You know, the sort of ranges that you might anticipate. So it

[57:19] takes. And I forget what the the total ranges on. don't know if we were a tier one, 20

[57:24] as the case may be. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's just too small to try to accomplish

[57:30] that. Not if I want to keep my job. >> No. Go ahead. And recruits

[57:44] have dropped or anybody. The top line a little bit. But by. Having mandatory make staying

[57:48] calm. Florida quantifiable benefits from that, right. So you hope that somebody

[57:56] assimilate and to a higher role of productivity from professionalism, too financial

[58:00] investment, whatever it might be in life's way I haven't seen any studies on that that

[58:06] that works and where I get a little bit perplexed by that is. housing authority

[58:12] perspective. We have to small area, fair market rent. So we have 23 have a one better move

[58:19] on and it could all have different reimbursements to landlord from our site subsidy

[58:22] from our side. We now have we have 6,000 people out there. Receiving subsidy. But we have

[58:31] 7 now that received over $7,000 a month and subsidy. Live in some of the western

[58:38] suburbs. That's a that's good or bad. At same 6 pensive and I haven't seen a greater level

[58:43] of assimilation access to social services, access to career, better health care,

[58:47] better education. I haven't seen the attainment goals achieved or at least

[58:51] quantified by having. Having this forest mixed income model where ICU or best is in

[59:00] communities Metro Lines. Anybody live next. Anybody if they can get to work easily to

[59:05] metro liner in Boston Philadelphia here in New York City. People live with

[59:08] anybody. In car communities. I find there's a greater hesitancy, but a lot of people

[59:15] to reside in communities already have that forest. Disparity of incomes. When a

[59:21] car community, if they lose the privilege of waking up in the morning. But the Metro

[59:25] South, that proximity to a metro will cause people to live with anybody. you had an

[59:30] option, get in your car to say I don't want to lose the right to drive an hour and Let's

[59:34] just I haven't seen studies that support. Next thing Com for social goals. But I'd be

[59:40] curious and read them. >> And full transparency that was years and years ago when I

[59:45] lived there don't know if there was anything quite a viable that they produced. was

[59:50] just and idea when those a building boom going on and they were trying to avoid

[59:58] building affordable housing communities that we're just going to end up becoming it.

[1:00:05] Yeah, for for lack of better word. The projects the way that the New York made a

[1:00:08] mistake in building some of those projects. >> Yes. And then my final

[1:00:14] comment on that because we're landlord is well. When spots ability to enforce Ali. So

[1:00:20] before you get the project owners have responsibility to enforce Lisa, people don't

[1:00:24] comply. You remove those tended to preserve your property. He served humanity

[1:00:28] of the place that you call home and all those sort of things. A lot of things.

[1:00:34] Simply because tend have a resident focus and say residents are on the property

[1:00:38] where I would say there's an equal management landlords, unfortunately says absolutely.

[1:00:46] >> Okay. Any other comments or questions for Darby seeing none. Thank you very much.

[1:00:51] Into new business. This is our task at hand for the day. You will see a second handout

[1:00:59] outside from your agenda. I know. Beth, thank you very much for running the June

[1:01:04] meeting as I was absent. But I know that she did pass on the message that this meeting was

[1:01:09] really going to be dialing down everything that we need to as far as FEMA location and

[1:01:15] then speakers as well and having that discussion for the fall workshop. So that is our

[1:01:22] task at hand. Sandra had put up. Thank you for putting that on the screen. Sandra had

[1:01:30] supplied us with an idea that she's come up with 4 the fall housing workshop and I would

[1:01:35] love it you'd like to go through this with us and let us know what your ideas were.

[1:01:38] Sure. Thank you so. >> The coordinating Council, Broward as a shared previously

[1:01:44] housing affordability is one of our top issues. So every year we either have an event

[1:01:48] or last year, we did a series of online workshops this year. Kind of got away from us. And

[1:01:53] we were looking at a fall day to do our workshop. And in speaking with Ralph, we

[1:01:57] discussed the fact that you all to help fall workshop in lieu of having 2 different

[1:02:03] workshops where we are probably going to be touching on similar things. I thought

[1:02:08] that it might be more beneficial if we just joined forces and had an event

[1:02:14] together. So I wanted to just kind of go through what we had proposed for all of you and

[1:02:19] the rationale behind it for discussion and for your approval. We we're going to

[1:02:26] have opening remarks from County Commissioner Hayes. All Rogers as she serves on this

[1:02:29] board, we thought that that would be nice, of course, by then the information from

[1:02:36] doctor Ned Murray and his team at EFI you for the updated affordable housing needs

[1:02:39] assessment will be available. So we wanted to start it off with Dr. Murray's presentation

[1:02:47] and the unveiling of the overdue heated municipal score card that we are really

[1:02:56] excited about. And then we wanted to really break it out into 2 panel presentations.

[1:03:02] 2026 really reflects a decade of sort of that shift in housing advocacy and really

[1:03:06] moving away from what used to be just kind of the usual suspects coming around half.

[1:03:12] Michelle remembers those days. There was a lot. Well, a lot less of a sitting around and

[1:03:15] talking about housing, affordability. And so 2016 in the Coordinating Council,

[1:03:20] really, I think sort of took that took that off-ramp of what had historically been

[1:03:26] housing, affordability, advocacy and really purposefully engage the

[1:03:32] business community and really purposefully engaged a broader group of stakeholders and

[1:03:36] cute, including again, health and human services and economic development. The

[1:03:41] Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance and the Broward Workshop, et cetera, et

[1:03:44] cetera. And so we thought that it would be great to really reflect on where we've come,

[1:03:50] what we've done and how we're doing it. So panel won the first or the second session

[1:03:55] was named from vision to reality. How affordable housing deals get done in

[1:04:01] Broward. We are long past having to explain what housing affordability means or why

[1:04:06] it's important and really want folks to be able to walk away with new valuable, relevant

[1:04:12] and timely information. The suggested panelists again, bring together a broad sector

[1:04:20] of both business and government. We put a little overview there and some

[1:04:27] discussion topics and then session 3 would be looking ahead. The next chapter for

[1:04:29] housing in Broward. Again, a group of both. Nonprofit for-profit and government

[1:04:39] partners. Chris, we would hope that we were hoping that you would go ahead and moderate

[1:04:42] that panel and and then we wanted to close it out. For those of you that are not

[1:04:48] familiar in Miami-Dade County, the University of Miami runs a program for the last decade.

[1:04:53] It's a community scholars and affordable housing program. They've been doing it for the

[1:04:58] last decade. Michelle is familiar with that. She's not in her head. We wanted to

[1:05:02] provide an opportunity for that for that team to have. You know, again, we gave them

[1:05:06] 15 minutes to share it in the hopes that we might be able to engage some folks from Broward

[1:05:11] County to participate in the next cohort. Each cohort is 12 people. Again, it's been

[1:05:16] around for decades of. They've graduated over 120 leaders. It is a much more in-depth

[1:05:22] program. Miami homes for all is one of their partners. It had previously funded by

[1:05:28] banks, including I know JP Morgan Chase. And so we wanted to see what the appetite was

[1:05:35] in Broward. I know I don't want to do this for ever and we want to make sure that we

[1:05:39] are continuing to provide opportunities for the next group of leaders. Again,

[1:05:46] business nonprofit faith-based, you know, you'd be will definitely be a part

[1:05:49] of conversations. 2, 3, but really just trying to open up and expand the umbrella of

[1:05:57] people that are really educated in the nuance of housing, affordability. And I

[1:06:03] really, you know, and nomenclature is important. And so I say housing

[1:06:07] affordability, not affordable housing because we really want people to understand that this

[1:06:12] is an economic concept and not end product. So Ford will housing could be an end

[1:06:17] product. Housing affordability is the economic concept that if you want to be a healthy

[1:06:20] consumer and the economy, you cannot be spending more than 30% of your household income

[1:06:25] on housing. Regardless on what that is. But we know that it's a lot more nuance than an

[1:06:30] article or a meme or a hashtag. And we really want to do the best that we can

[1:06:35] without having to replicate efforts. Right? So if we don't have to stand up this own

[1:06:41] effort in Broward and we can just play off of something that's already existing. We

[1:06:44] saw that there would be a benefit to that. And then, of course, closing it out from

[1:06:51] Senator Nan Rich who also serves on the board of county commissioners and certainly

[1:06:57] has been the ultimate champion of housing affordability over the last decade and Broward.

[1:07:03] >> Well, thank you so much for that. Quick question is in regards to the lineup.

[1:07:09] Fantastic speakers. I think the majority of us know every person who is on this list.

[1:07:12] I've worked with several of them and no of the rest. Have they approached and are they?

[1:07:22] >> Confirmed for the event that, you know, we wanted to make sure that we had buy-in

[1:07:24] from this group first. I mean, again, most of them are. If you approve it today by the

[1:07:30] end of the day come back and say of Hardy confirmed half of them many of them, we've

[1:07:34] already sort of spoken to and softball. Hey, it's coming up for discussion. But we wanted

[1:07:39] to wait until we had you're buying on the agenda and then certainly working with county

[1:07:42] staff to identify a date and location. But, you know, we could swap everyone

[1:07:49] replaceable. So anyone that can't make it, we could certainly bring someone else

[1:07:52] in. But I'm fairly confident that everyone would be pleased to be a part of this.

[1:07:57] >> Well, this is a late-summer birthday gift. I think that this is fantastic.

[1:08:03] >> do. I know, Beth, and as you guys in the June to come back with ideas. Does anybody

[1:08:09] have ideas that complement this or is is there something here that you think could be

[1:08:14] massaged her change her. Any ideas that you brought to the table today that you would

[1:08:18] like to discuss. Dig into details. What you present. >> rough

[1:08:31] >> I think Senator did a great job it. Putting a the program the center full Cross section

[1:08:36] and the the individuals are really community leaders, both on the nonprofit and

[1:08:43] government development side. I think it and rolling out the you just month that I just got

[1:08:50] the final copy of last week. Just some really interesting information. Some some

[1:08:56] heartening information. Some scary information. So that will they'll bring people out

[1:09:00] just a lone haven't. Doctor Murray, what if you if you wouldn't mind? just want to

[1:09:04] mention real quickly before of the housing Finance Authority this year funded the housing

[1:09:09] needs assessment. Got one of our board members. He's still here question still left. But

[1:09:18] one recognized him thanking them for their support. So yeah, I think this is this is

[1:09:22] a solid. >> I agree. I think this is very timely and hearing

[1:09:29] murmurings from staff over completely immigrants with us. go ahead.

[1:09:35] >> Yeah, I just want I wanted with us and sentiments that we should just beginning to this

[1:09:40] item and just move forward with I thought we dis caused date before. Have you

[1:09:44] considered the same date that we have before? My? Often we did not discuss the dates. We

[1:09:51] were potential data. Now. We we had. >> I we had had that they were

[1:09:58] supposed to be discussed in June and we did not discuss them

[1:10:04] >> I will tell you staff has been working diligently on a venue and a date for this

[1:10:10] workshop and would really look forward to working with on during the ccb. long

[1:10:13] partnership. >> You know, the park's I've been kind of directed away

[1:10:20] from. The and Cold Nature Center. Something they were hoping May hopefully a little

[1:10:27] more centrally located in the county. The issue with with the existing parks in Broward

[1:10:31] County is not the availability, but the the WiFi, audiovisual. For

[1:10:40] example, we looked at tree tops. Which we've spoken with Opc the gentleman that does

[1:10:46] our streamlines our workshop every year and the reliability, they're of the

[1:10:51] connectivity is just not there. I don't know that we would get a quality product.

[1:10:56] Also in some of the other in the other. And that's part venues at and Co. We haven't

[1:11:01] seen it. But we've seen how much room the audio visual guys take up in that room and

[1:11:07] and it it gets to be a lot 2 men. Issues are ceding quite a bit. we've looked at

[1:11:13] everything from libraries to parks and what we're recommending if the funding.

[1:11:20] Can be made because this would cost money is at the Performing Arts center. And

[1:11:27] this was suggested by someone that River Room, which has the capacity is totally wired, has

[1:11:33] everything that we need. They are available on the dates that I wasn't originally given

[1:11:42] to look at where both on Fridays, which was October 23rd and October, 30th. Room

[1:11:47] would be available on Friday. The 23rd or we could look at a 3rd the day before the

[1:11:52] Thursday. We don't have to do it on a Friday Thursday. The 22nd of October. One concern

[1:12:00] that was brought to me has been parking. But I think we can find a way as far as the

[1:12:04] cost of parking to work with, you know, kind of figure that out. I did get an estimate

[1:12:13] from them. As far as the room rental and there's Beverage bar that it's a fixed

[1:12:21] expensive ever stations. So. Right now, I just wanted, you know, to secure a date

[1:12:27] location so we can tell these awesome panel us where and when they meet So even though

[1:12:34] we did meet in June, I do and let you know, we've been working diligently on this. I

[1:12:37] don't know if anyone has thoughts for the date location open suggestions The 23rd is

[1:12:43] fine. If that's okay with the Sanders. >> Absolutely. And sue, I'm

[1:12:47] unhappy the sidebar come up with. I think Ralph may have a conflict on the 23rd. Not for

[1:12:51] it. >> Yeah. That date. I do have a conflict

[1:12:59] 0nd. About a minute on that on the 22nd to. >> Everybody could check their

[1:13:08] calendars and make sure that that date works for you as I had on 23rd before 22nd fine

[1:13:10] as well. Running. But can work for you. >> Long as it works for out.

[1:13:18] That works for me. I take my orders from him. Looking on the 22nd round. And then yeah.

[1:13:27] So we can sidebar for location if everyone agrees on note account you are OK on the

[1:13:32] TWENTY-SECOND is everybody available on the 22nd? Tobin on. And it's a Thursday. Let's

[1:13:37] say the 22nd. And as far as location is concerned. So if you're comfortable working

[1:13:47] that out with the Sandra, I'm okay with that. Location. I think it's a it's gonna be in

[1:13:53] Broward County. That will be the least important to piece of this puzzle. OK? So

[1:14:03] everyone and so that in and chair mark that in whatever on your on your calendars, all

[1:14:05] work with Sandra >> The >> location to confirm that

[1:14:13] Kuz. >> Thank you. Thank him for as far as as far as this

[1:14:14] proposal. Everybody's good with this approach this proposal. Next. Would anybody

[1:14:18] like to move that forward for the 22nd? >> You just just a just a

[1:14:26] quick comment on that session. 2 that speaks to the word deals it done. You know, if

[1:14:36] think about that word, shake out in the city. companies to something to that The shove

[1:14:43] intent is to say deal, but just to think about this on that, it be. initiatives. Are

[1:14:51] companies do something to help a project. could. We could certainly words, man and week

[1:14:59] other than that, I will second show's moving so. >> Maybe if we. The venues

[1:15:21] where high schools have their graduation. Those would probably in big enough and

[1:15:27] have a lot of park. I I. wish that we didn't have to before. >> suit. Also the suggestion

[1:15:42] that we talked about off and before we started that brand new senator that's on Dixie

[1:15:47] Highway and enters its brand-new. I can't imagine that we would have, but why

[1:15:51] fire? And that is a county building. I just don't know what it's. What that what the

[1:15:54] purpose of that building is. It was just built just south of Oakland Park on Dixie. But

[1:16:08] it will work. And also city of Pompano Beach has a very large community center that is

[1:16:27] rarely used. It's the Pompano Beach Cultural Arts Center. I do not think that there is a

[1:16:38] large price tag for using facility. And I can certainly ask my commissioner of she

[1:16:42] can. Provide some guidance on who could speak to him. Nancy Cotterman. Yeah.

[1:17:14] And Beth had mention Parker play host. Yes. Only by Helen R.

[1:17:23] >> At Sunrise federal there's a playhouse thing in Hollywood to b*** out. We want to be

[1:17:33] centralized. All right. So that's part of it. We don't want him to. And we all spend

[1:17:38] any money from now. >> Did you find and names? Okay. So you know how my

[1:17:47] friend to Tina >> From vision to reality half for double housing

[1:17:53] developments come to life in Broward. I think that's perfect. Okay. It gave me

[1:17:58] another Stop right there. Okay. Because it was another. Let's have become

[1:18:03] communities in Broward. Yeah, come to life. You want that their full okay. And that's

[1:18:10] the one that it says was their favorite. By the way, she she agreed with you guys thank

[1:18:16] Tina. Labrie native and of Lloyd's the transactional connotation of deals. Love it.

[1:18:22] Yeah. Would you like to move that forward? Yes. I move that. We accept the proposal

[1:18:30] for a joint workshop. Just with that one name change under session. 2. Moving

[1:18:41] forward with October 22nd Thursday, October 22nd. Moved and seconded. Is there any

[1:18:45] discussion? Seeing none all those in favor, please say aye. I. Any opposed. Seeing

[1:18:54] none. We've got a workshop. going to have a >> We're going have to work.

[1:19:06] So to that being said, please, mark a change your calendars from October 23rd October 22nd

[1:19:12] the October 22nd Workshop does replace our October 23rd regularly scheduled meeting.

[1:19:19] So we will just delay the October 23rd from our calendar, moved to the 22nd.

[1:19:21] That will be our meeting. Is there any old business to address?

[1:19:26] >> Mr. Chair just like share couple of days for you. Yes, Last week we close on the run

[1:19:36] redevelopment. That's another development will be a demo, a new development of the federal

[1:19:38] permits, oath they are familiar with this project. But if you though, from here.

[1:19:44] Westen says truck and take a take a ride on 11th. There's project that's been around

[1:19:50] forever. That's on 15 scattered sites 164 units. Use the word worst, but it's the

[1:20:03] most challenging housing left in the county and a new developers going to one of the

[1:20:07] 15. Lots happens to be a full city block. They're going to raise the city block and build

[1:20:10] a brand new mid-rise to house all 164 units while and in the transition period. They're

[1:20:17] going to be re locating. All of the existing residents are one will have a place to live.

[1:20:22] And then when they're finished, there will be 14 properties left to do

[1:20:24] something with was a huge deal. Very hard, very expensive that was a great

[1:20:34] property close that they were closing on another 100 units with pinnacle, been Cyprus and

[1:20:41] then we have in the pipeline to close by the end of the calendar year for more deals,

[1:20:45] probably another around 600 units. Incredible. Thank you for that update. Great work

[1:20:49] growth. Awesome work anyone else. Seeing? None. >> On to public comment,

[1:20:58] Michelle, I know that you do have to run to catch a flight. We don't have any more

[1:21:02] business to go over today. So you are welcome. Excused. We will get into public comment.

[1:21:08] Are there any members of the public that wish to speak today? Seeing none. OK, our

[1:21:22] next Round Housing Council meeting will be what is at 08:00AM on October. 22nd. That

[1:21:27] being said, I will call for a German. Thank you all so very much.

[1:21:31] >> We are adjourned.

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