BUTLER COUNTY SALARY BOARD MEETING 12 30 2015 120 08

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[0:00] I think it didn't look good for a good run I want to say three percent writers
[0:28] the tiny voice is too much western union
[0:33] management put it to federal government employees got a 1.3 remember age this
[0:40] year 1.3 if you get social security and I bleed to me do you get a raise at all
[0:46] in Texas no worries at all so I don't know how we can look at our seniors and
[0:51] say hey you're not getting a raise or give the county of loyal service at it's
[0:56] just too much money as you know I I gotta pay with years okay I go when I
[1:01] can't take it to a decent price 90 or too expensive so am I going ok I just
[1:06] think this raised to time thank you mark your bonus what can you think that that
[1:13] federal what's the federal one apology one-point-three percent they asked for
[1:17] 3.9 federal government does not have to give there's no arbitration with them my
[1:23] federal government would say what they want maybe like 1130
[1:28] well mark I'm Carrie here though most of our races are determined by an
[1:33] arbitrator we have done I know I don't think it's writing a big anybody else or
[1:40] a mr. camp all right let's move on then a little bit from number 16 on line I
[1:58] online by the month fence it says chief clerk Wilson requested adoption of
[2:04] resolution 2015 20 show is going one day all right we have a motion and a second
[2:16] improvement salary for of temperature feet don't favor say aye he has under
[2:27] soil conservation and creation of a soil conservation manager maximum five
[2:31] hundred hours from January boards to December 31st of 2016 and 3114 no
[2:38] benefits and their retirement is your approval is very much I'll make that
[2:42] motion for a second I'll second discussion ever say I Maris and I did
[2:50] say I on that show I could be buried under public defender the creation of
[2:56] one investigator at maximum of thousand hours per year twenty dollars an hour
[3:01] fits in every time I'll make the motion I'll second that discussion I'd like to
[3:07] say this the public defender came up this about two years ago and he didn't
[3:12] get this last year I completely agree before he's going with this he had
[3:16] thirteen thousand in a budget for a line currently for hiring subcontractors into
[3:21] a private detective work I could grieve with them that that isn't that friendly
[3:27] it doesn't give enough flexibility in that office so I think the change since
[3:33] he already had some of the money in there this is an important change giving
[3:37] them flexibility to protect to give a good defense to people that a lot of
[3:44] people almost all of us could not afford that defense paid for by themselves so I
[3:51] think this is real fair and reasonable request I'm sorry we didn't do a gap
[3:56] left last year but this year is better than nothing so I'll have a motor
[4:01] vehicle okay those in favor of the motion say aye aye following our rate
[4:09] adjustments for prison 55 ship commanders at 25 from 25 6 48 to 20 616
[4:18] one and one freaking supervisor 25 6 8 and 22 to 26 1
[4:26] oh my gosh all second discussion on the motion I'd like to say this I believe
[4:35] this is a step forward we can stop a problem with this a few times the Union
[4:43] the union contracts are getting too close to our ship commanders and our
[4:48] truck treatment supervisor and we should addressed this earlier I think it maybe
[4:52] even needs addressed again of the new morgue look at that I'm very pleased you
[4:58] know we have to keep and attract good commanders of prison you can't have them
[5:04] lots to have some separation for that you know it doesn't bring respect its it
[5:09] doesn't show it doesn't attract the people or keep them so we need to do
[5:13] this it's overdone I hope they look at this again next year but rome wasn't
[5:17] built one day so I am for this also I was compared with emotion say hi I
[5:23] suppose now motion passes property in revenue one cheese Assessor on $30 10
[5:31] weeks to 31 6 13 I their motion unless I'm not the table I think what we
[5:42] firstly I passed with his motion or minus know Candace your motion to
[5:46] approve that I like too much is there a second I will segregate discussion
[5:55] yeah unlike the table this a lot of this time I respect from the new board I
[6:02] believe this change should be revenue-neutral and apparently it's not
[6:08] going to be revenue-neutral in arena chains that sinner this needs to be
[6:13] changed but just you know more krasinski got up and said earlier the federal
[6:19] government one-point-two percent the Social Security 0% and they want to give
[6:26] a 3 ml at a tax increase I mean that this stuff it has to be made revenue
[6:31] neutral we have to address this but I don't want to strap a board on the new
[6:37] board without it being revenue neutral
[6:44] yeah lemurs blog like I might be you allow for this you can withdraw your
[6:52] motion that's what your process it was your suggestion I think to fly I ok I'd
[6:59] rather table and have it addressed about and write direct us at the table that's
[7:03] correct is there a second to that motion conflict in do they have awaited the
[7:07] table all those in favor say aye aye aye opposed the high table carries and this
[7:15] will be table until Ward has time to aggressive Thanks go
[7:20] alright go ahead Barney tax planning the tax director for 122 4 for 22 23 five
[7:28] sites for too much thank you for attacks play and especially my talking to both
[7:56] of them no we won't okay sorry these are depression than this week what I'd like
[8:04] to table that also for the same reason that you don't have a motion yet do you
[8:07] well yeah are you making a motive motives are made the motion mr. x times
[8:15] second end okay okay we have a motion and a second and now we have a bunch of
[8:20] the table is second evolution and we have a second table on money you accuse
[8:27] me of not do I get a year ago and today your table in Floyd gym on Friday you
[8:34] wanted an ad revenue men hear something okay we have a motion to table world in
[8:40] favor say aye carries
[8:48] excellent performing our ratifications when falling action district attorney's
[8:55] office Victim Witness date on November first from 64% mojo 36 process to sixty
[9:02] percent rata 40 percentage I'll make the motion is there a second I'll second it
[9:10] those in favor say aye I know I suppose also replication and information
[9:16] technology the elimination support specialist three at 24 449 benefits and
[9:22] retirement creation of us support specialist 119 993 with benefits and
[9:27] retirement after completion of 81 supposition regards to how much Area
[9:42] Agency on Aging the annual increases effective January first for example I
[9:56] say whatever love that it's bold but we always give him okay for we ever broke
[10:00] with that she's not she's hot acting on me on the ground wants to change yeah
[10:08] she doesn't want to change okay
[10:19] ok so from round robin the self-employed yes Rob Rob is not a thing until you
[10:24] prove it okay thanks for clarifying our lawyers on the annual interest increases
[10:32] for january first for exempt and non-exempt positions including a three
[10:37] percent certain i will sentence of discussion favorite later middle and
[10:48] discussion out of respect for the new board look not really believe what mark
[10:55] krusinski said I'm very having people come and speak out of these you know I
[11:00] had a lot of my plate today you reminded senior citizens are get zero percent
[11:05] increase and the federal employees to get one three percent we have just we
[11:09] have to somehow we had a salary study done there's people being treated
[11:14] unfairly but we can't solve the problem you know your history years episode much
[11:19] more fun about sixteen thousand dollars in trash you know we didn't act or darn
[11:24] thing and I think it was loaded on your hands you know we did that I know
[11:28] jacquard melon did it Korea wats did it you know I mean so it's not being acted
[11:34] on that shouldn't it be revenue-neutral I think it should be it's not that that
[11:40] Chris haven't you gonna tell Dom several ways we're going to do something to make
[11:45] it revenue neutral you know and I don't think you know I don't think it's not
[11:51] fair for me to strap it down the lane job I hopefully I respect for the new
[11:56] boards you know they kind of respect for the new board they will make the hard
[12:04] decisions here after all on their campaigns they said on the Rope 15
[12:09] campaigns Kevin boozle said no to tax increase keep the money in your pocket
[12:14] Leslie oh she said hold the line on property taxes and Kim guy ran on low
[12:19] taxes so out of respect for those three to solve this problem I don't want to
[12:24] something to hurt their their viewpoint I mean that's one thing i liked it on so
[12:28] out of respect what I don't get about developments today okay out of respect
[12:33] for not even employees I'm going to but yes the union employer I'll received
[12:38] figures that increased some more than that cause the arbitration that was
[12:44] taking place on their behalf of this contracts is it fair Gardocki employees
[12:51] to ask them to work side by side with union employees we've got a three
[12:55] percent increase is it fair to our non-union employees to penalize them
[13:00] because it helped belong to a union I don't think so crickets that might be
[13:05] too much but the union arbitrator said that's what the union employees done so
[13:10] I think it's only fair that all our employees you get the same thing I'd
[13:14] like to benefit the lives you know on a celery study being a problem you know
[13:19] some people that have not that many years here there's no entry at all
[13:23] somewhere at the top or over the top we're think is banging off the top and
[13:28] they haven't been here that long because they I guess there were somebody's
[13:31] friend or something you know there's no end but there's no equity at all so just
[13:36] attempt to keep cloth you know time after time putting more weight with and
[13:42] leaving the people at the bottom what through the salary study you know two
[13:46] people were below the bottom and not acted on that it's just not it's not
[13:51] even common sense you know so I look it's not that we don't have you know you
[13:57] have to deal with it sometime when are you going to deal with it we didn't do
[14:01] it yeah we couldn't deal with it at all okay thank you very much I would like to
[14:06] say we have tried very diligently to install
[14:11] the salary study and every time we do mr. X 9 has his own thoughts and so does
[14:18] been hobbling that we we can't do it that way because it gives some people
[14:24] more of an increase than others and you know people work at their jobs and the
[14:31] longer they stay they should think for money and when we have our non-union
[14:36] employees most of them who can't receive over time they come in early they go
[14:42] home late they do all the right things and they're the people that we depend on
[14:47] for the decisions of this Connie and we two years or whatever was it go we gave
[14:53] them two percent instead of three that the union's up it's wrong what these two
[14:58] were trying to do to the two hour non-union people and uh I just don't
[15:06] understand that that we didn't take the salary study I voted for the salary
[15:12] study I would like to have done it but every time we went into some kind of
[15:16] conversation mr. Eckstine had his own ideas and consequently moved on against
[15:23] it and today on Monday he wanted both these people to get those increases now
[15:30] he wants to put it on the new board and he says talk about kicking the can down
[15:34] the road he's kicking the can down the road not going on thank you those in
[15:41] favor of the motion say aye aye opposed not now the motion path of emotion
[15:46] failures I'd like to say one more thing mr. on I do not expect you to take the
[15:54] increase in your pay that you were going to
[15:58] at the beginning of this year and I not expect you to take it next year I don't
[16:03] plan on it oh that's good i'm freezing evening like male that's our exact time
[16:08] I just fall into that lying although we have we even we solved that problem with
[16:14] all the brittle officers I came to Penn hall and should take is one percent ok
[16:19] we're going are you learn our country percent about him taking 17 I think it's
[16:23] BS I think then olive and all the rest of the row office paper one percent you
[16:28] know you misleading the public here arrest we change coming the recipe is
[16:32] there so forth building look we change that I'm proud of that you know its way
[16:40] on the line with the other counties what you can just make 10 officers will make
[16:44] they got a four percent of race for 25 years in a row we solved that problem
[16:49] for Dallas in here and say that row officer shouldn't take a one percent
[16:54] increase one we're talking about three is four ch ok that is forged you know
[17:01] it's been supposed to be or any other row ops they're supposed to be
[17:05] embarrassed if I get a one-percent race I don't think so I'm not talking about
[17:10] the rest of the row officers I think they do dessert I think that everybody
[17:14] else we're not in discussion here okay look why don't I decided to make my
[17:19] comment so you got your comments that we operate it with an unbalanced but
[17:24] thousands 15 there's many concerns budget was notably a free meal tax
[17:33] increase there is a say the probability that the incoming word commissioners
[17:38] will open the budget with those things in mind at this time inglewood table
[17:46] cannot support it nothing personal I'm just doing my job as the watchdog for
[17:53] the people's mind okay fail will suspend the notes on question time you're
[18:06] talking like the five percent increases for a property under the cats play and
[18:11] you magic eight that on Monday they decided to a motionmaker motion to table
[18:16] 1 was them good night which I thought they were they when they also did that
[18:21] but you were there when I gave you this sheet you were there when I gave you
[18:25] this sheet that said we're going to do a two percent raise and I'd have money to
[18:30] solve some of these problems I mean you got that sheet when I found out they
[18:35] weren't going to do it you know we can spend money real easy but they can't
[18:39] think of any way to save money I tried my best Aaron said Jim x9 is playing
[18:44] super psycho love nobody said what I get two percent and they said they wanted to
[18:48] represent so there's no money to make the adjustments i want to tell you took
[18:53] my money away to make it revenue new pro okay i think it's playable question a
[19:01] question for the controller is your reasoning the same why he voted against
[19:07] be two percent raise for the ship commanders in the treatment supervisor I
[19:11] just don't think we should be making decisions in the eleventh hour and
[19:14] cherry Ted King because Figgis raises in the investment I don't want to be in the
[19:20] position how could I include content with many of these other folks come into
[19:28] my office too late you are arguably hey how can I do conscience justify one
[19:38] person I think they look at holistically on another note I actually mentioned
[19:44] this to the warden this never went through president board a prison board
[19:49] runs the person on salary or not for commissioners prison board not discussed
[19:54] with them I think it should be thank you all for now thank you you're welcome to
[20:01] join the shower or meeting so I am in favor say hi