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To order, Council meeting today
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January 9th, 2026.
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Like to recognize the absence of our
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Council Chair, Goodlander. She is absent today
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and
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uh
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Councilman
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Keegan Garrity is not is not with us.
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Um
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We have the opening remarks will be
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provided by Council Member Mark Hurd.
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>> Right.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Just briefly
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I've just been on my mind so I wanted to
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phrase it hopefully simple
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but
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uh
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community of terms that uh
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I'm grateful for the freedoms we enjoy
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in this land
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and I would just encourage each
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one in attendance or listening to
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uh take the time. If you know a veteran,
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give them a handshake, tell them thanks.
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If you can still hug your mother, do so.
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And with that, I'd like to uh continue
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with the prayer.
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>> Thank you.
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» Our Father in heaven, we ask thee
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for thy presence to abide here with us
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this evening as we begin our County Council meeting.
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We're grateful, Father, for the
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opportunity we have as
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citizens of our community to be able to
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participate in the government that uh
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prevails in this land. We're grateful,
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Father, for the means and opportunities
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that thou has blessed
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our community with and we pray for
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thy hand to continually be
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in the lives of of our friends and
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family around us.
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We pray for protection of thy spirit to
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be
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with our law enforcement
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and our
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military service members. We ask thee to
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continually watch over and protect them.
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We pray, Father, for
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preservation of this land and for the
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protection of the freedoms
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that are
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enshrined in the Constitution. We pray
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for
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the clarity of thought to fulfill our
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oath of office to protect and defend
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this Constitution.
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We pray, Father, for
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>> [cough and clears throat]
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>> We pray We offer a prayer of gratitude
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for the
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opportunities we have to know of thy
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love for us and the opportunity we have
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to serve one another.
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We say this in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Amen.
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>> Amen.
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>> And last, please rise and join me in the
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Pledge of Allegiance.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America,
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and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
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>> Thank you, Madam Chair.
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» Thank you.
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I will accept a motion to approve this
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evening's agenda.
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> We have a motion by council member
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>> Gunnell.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Nolan. And And seconded by Dave. Um all
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those in favor say aye.
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>> Aye.
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And I will accept a motion to
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approve that both of the minutes for the
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workshop on the 26th as well as the
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council meeting minutes.
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>> Move to approve.
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>> And second.
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>> And a second. Okay, any further
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discussion?
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Okay, all those in favor say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> I will abstain. I was not in attendance
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at that meeting.
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Um now we'll move on to the report from
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our county executive.
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>> I I have no appointment, Madam Chair. I
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would tell you that most of our time is
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spent working with fire board issues and
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trying to get um
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progress in that area.
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>> Okay, thank you.
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Um we will move on to
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um the items of special interest. Um
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we have the um 2026 Cache County Royalty
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um that is joining us, as you can see
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here on the front row, and we have Trish
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Gibbs, who is here um on that's going to
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be introducing them. Uh I'm sorry, I
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don't know which one Trish Trish Gibbs.
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Would you please come and to the
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microphone and um
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present each of them is is that no? Yes?
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>> I'm going to interview them.
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>> Okay, we'll have them introduce
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themselves. But, thank you for joining
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us tonight. So, if you'll take turns
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coming to the microphone, and it looks
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like you're prepared. So, please.
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>> Now, this is being broadcast through the
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whole world.
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So,
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smile.
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» Hello, everyone. My name is Reese Page,
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and I'm your 2026 Cache County Fair and
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Rodeo Queen.
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My roots are in deep here in Cache
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County. My parents are Derek and Jamie
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Page, and you might even know my
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grandparents, Daris and Dixie Page.
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Um our fair and rodeo is being talked
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about all over the country. I've had the
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chance to talk with professional rodeo
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athletes, and even world champions, and
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they always have good things to say
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about our event. More often than not,
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they bring up our beautiful fairgrounds.
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It's got lush trees, a wonderful river
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flowing through it, and lots of shade,
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while also still being in a convenient
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location near town.
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As well as they often bring up our
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wonderful payout. We are one of the
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highest paying out rodeos in per rodeo,
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and because of this, we qualify to be in
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the CINCH Governor's Cup circuit, which
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attracts the best competition around,
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and more times than not, world
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champions. So, because Cache County Fair
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and Rodeo is such a unique um
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event due to its location and tough
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competition. We would love for you guys
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to come because it's truly something
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that you won't want to miss out on.
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>> Thank you.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> Hello everyone. I'm Hadley Thompson. I'm
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the Cache County First Attendant Queen.
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I am so excited to be here.
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Cache County Rodeo is one event you
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won't want to miss.
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Last year we welcomed more than 81,000
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people.
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Filled every seat and sold out all four
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nights. If we had more bleachers, we're
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confident they would be filled, too.
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We also had over 700 contestants entries
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last year.
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Bringing top talent and exciting
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competition to the arena.
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Join us August 5th through the 7th for
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an unforgettable experience.
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Tickets range from $15 to $27 depending
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on the night seating.
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Depending on the night and whether you
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choose covered seating.
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We'd love to see you there. Get your
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tickets early. They tend to go fast.
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Thank you.
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» I'm Breanna Bassett and I am the Cache
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County Fair and Rodeo Second Attendant
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Queen and I love the Cache County Fair
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and Rodeo. I grew up showing goats at
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the fair and going to the night every
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rodeo with my parents Justin and Carly
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Bassett.
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And let me tell you, not only is the
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rodeo athletes one of my favorite parts,
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but also the entertainment we have. We
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have Parker Haviland coming this year
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bringing his beautiful big black horses
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and they all hitch together and they
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pull a wagon. And they work hard all
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year long to bring us something
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different each year. Thank you.
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» Hi, I My name is Dixie Christiansen. I'm
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the Cache County Junior Queen.
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I'm from Richmond, Utah. My parents are
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Timothy and Denise Christiansen.
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Because of our outstanding rodeo,
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livestock, vendors, and carnival, we
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were voted best of Northern Utah's
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annual event this year, which will be
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the sixth time in a row.
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So, you should come and enjoy the best
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week of the summer at the Cache County
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Fair and Rodeo. Thank you.
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» Hello everyone. I'm Marley Hall, your
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Cache County 2026 Princess.
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Being Being part of a royalty looks like
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res- representing our rodeo at rodeos
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and events in lots of areas, including
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Preston, Lewiston, and Hyrum.
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It means waving to the crowd
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from Lewiston and Hyrum. It means
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Sorry. It means waving to the crowd from
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horseback in 4th of July parades,
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participating in buzz runs, being on the
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radio,
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thanking sponsors, and taking part in
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fun royalty photoshoots. Royalty members also help put on Cache
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County Fair and Rodeo itself. From
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carrying flags and moving cows to
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helping with the mutton bustin',
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throwing prizes from the truck, and even
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signing autographs for little kids.
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It's It's a summer full of service,
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friendships, confidence, and a
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unforgettable memories.
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We would love for you to come to our
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Sorry. For you to come and experience
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our queen contest this next year on May
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29th. Thank you.
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» My name's Indiana Earl, and I'm the
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junior the Cache County Junior Princess.
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My parents are Clayton and Katelyn Earl.
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If you come to the Cache County Rodeo
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this year, you will see our special
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specialty act, Jessica Blair folks,
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riding her beautiful white horses,
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showing off her Roman riding her trick
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riding skills. Thank you.
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>> Thank you. Um as a council, we have a
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proclamation. If it's okay, we'll read
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it to you right now.
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Um this is a proclamation recognizing
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and honoring the 2026 Cash County Rodeo
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Royalty.
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Whereas, the Cash County Rodeo Rodeo
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Royalty serve as the official public
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faces of Cash County promoting our rich
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Western heritage and agricultural
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traditions throughout the community and
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the state of Utah. And whereas, the
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members of the royalty court demonstrate
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outstanding leadership, exceptional
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poise, and elite horsemanship serving as
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excellent role models for the youth of
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Cash Valley. And whereas, their
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dedication and hard work significantly
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support the success and promotion of the
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annual Cash County Fair and Rodeo
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bringing our community together.
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Now, therefore, be it resolved that the
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Cash County Council does hereby
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recognize and honor the members of the
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2026 Cash County Rodeo Royalty Court.
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Reese Page, Cash County Rodeo Queen.
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Hadley Thompson, first attendant.
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Breanna Bassett, second attendant. Dixie
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Christensen, junior queen. Marley Hall,
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princess. Indiana Earl, junior princess.
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And thank them for their dedicated
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service, leadership, and excellent
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representation of Cash County throughout
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their tenure.
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I will accept a motion to approve the
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proclamation.
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>> So moved.
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>> Second.
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>> We've got jumping at the bit.
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All those in favor say I.
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>> I.
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>> Thank you so much for representing Cash
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County and for everything that you do
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with such poise. And what are you Would
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you rather do, ride a horse or come and
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talk to the county council?
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>> [laughter]
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» Thank Thank much. Uh would you
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>> [applause]
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>> Round OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE.
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» [applause]
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>> ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW WE WOULD
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LIKE TO GIVE THE opportunity to have a
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photo op for the royalty and and
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2-minute recess for them to come and get
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a a picture. Um so, if everyone could
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just
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breathe easy for a minute and they can
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come up and take a picture here.
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With the council?
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>> We'll settle that on the way.
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>> Yeah, you guys can come up here. We
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don't need to be in it.
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>> Can I get a small picture with you guys
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there, too?
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>> You can get a picture with us here if
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you'd like.
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>> [laughter]
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>> I was going to put them in the chairs.
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» Okay.
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>> Go all the way over.
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>> Well, we don't want to be blocking
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>> You're
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>> No, we do want you blocking the sign.
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» What's the average weight of those hats?
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They look like they got a lot of prom moms out there.
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>> Could you guys see?
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» Thank you so much for coming to see us.
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Thank you for all you
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Um we give it to you and we have copies
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Oh, we have multiple copies. So, we'll
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go ahead and distribute. Well, you can
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take that one and we'll provide copies.
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>> Well, thank you so much.
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>> Thank you.
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Thank you for coming to see
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us.
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» [clears throat]
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» You're welcome to stay for the remainder
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of our meeting.
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>> You'll just love it.
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» Thank you.
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so much.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Good luck. We'll see you guys at the
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rodeo on August 5th and
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>> through the 8th.
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>> Thank you.
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>> It'll be great again.
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>> Thank you.
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Thanks for all you do.
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Aw, this
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meeting got a lot less sparkly.
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We will
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>> they're good people, okay?
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They're nice. You're doing good.
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>> It's not sparkly.
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Um continuing with our
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agenda,
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we will have a presentation for VAWA,
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VOCA, and
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presented by County Attorney Dane
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Murray, as well as the Cache County
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Deputy Attorney Andrew Crane, Sarah
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Owen, Cache County Victim Advocate
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Supervisor, Scott Bodily, Cache County
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Children's Justice Center Coordinator.
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Andrew, thank you.
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» Andrew Crane with the County Attorney's
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Office. We'll give it a moment to decide
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to pull that. Part of the as you're well
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aware, one of the requirements for the
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VAWA grant is to do a presentation to
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the council uh twice a year basically,
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so this is part of that grant
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requirement.
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Most of what I'm going to go over today
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you've already seen, so if you have any
[14:53]
questions, feel free to jump in, but
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really here's uh the mission of the County Attorney's
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Office. I'm not going to read that.
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You're well aware of that. There's been
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no change. Basically, we're here to
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uphold and defend the Constitution
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as best we can to make sure rights of
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all are protected.
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Um going over the VAWA over overview,
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essentially what we have um again,
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there's been no change to what we have
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going on. Um there are three SVEU
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prosecutors. You have one in each
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district court, and myself, Josh Cohn,
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Mark Winkel, spread out among the judges
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there. They're also two of our
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investigators are on the ground as well,
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Nick and Nate. And so, give a shout out
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to them. They've been very helpful for
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us in helping us get and follow up on
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cases. I've used them often, and they
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are an indispensable resource in getting
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follow up done on the cases.
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Um as far as the uh current grant year
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award that we are in, 2024-2025, it's a
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2-year cycle. Again, there hasn't been
[15:46]
any changes to this. These are some of
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the requirements we have to do. Again,
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talk about the We do semi-annual and
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annual reporting to UOVC, and we have to
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track our time and hours what we
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with what we spend on the VAWA cases.
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Um
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that
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Just I guess just a note for
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Coming up next year, we'll be in the
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grant cycle again. I'm not sure what the
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funding will look like when it comes to
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going through this process again next
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year. I'm sure we'll have more
[16:12]
discussions as that comes up, but given
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the track record with what's happening
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on the federal side of things, I
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wouldn't I would not be shocked if what
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is available if we are granted anything
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would be lower again as well. So, just
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to give you a heads up on that.
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Uh just want to throw out some
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information on what uh we've have
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reported. Uh you'll see what we reported
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back in 2024 with the number of cases
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that were investigated by our
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investigators and cases received and
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reviewed by the prosecutors. Kind of see
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the differences there between 2024 and
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2025. For the most part, everything has
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gone up.
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Um so, it has been a busy uh time for us
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in the office
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um with handling everything that uh we
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handle. So, unless there are any
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questions, that is what I have, and I'll
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be followed by Sarah.
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>> Is there any reason to account for the
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domestic violence to be
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to have that dramatic of an increase?
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>> It is. That was a big increase. Um
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I honestly don't know. It's just really
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ebbs and flows. I don't know if Dana I
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don't know if you have anything you want
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to share on that as well, but
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>> I'm going to speak a little bit, and I
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think what I'm going to talk about will
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probably be I I I'd answer for right
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now, but
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>> Okay, I will hold that.
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» Thank you,
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any other questions?
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» Thank you.
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All right, so this is a little bit
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overview of the Cash County Victim
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Services. Um, these are our three
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different funding sources. Um, so my
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reporting will be about the Voca, the
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Victims of Crime Act and the UVSP, the
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Utah Victim Services Provider. So we are
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funded by federal grants, state grants
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and then our county [snorts]
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county funds.
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Um, same with Andrew, as he said, uh, we
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haven't had a we haven't been provided a
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lot of information about what the grants
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uh, financial side is going to look
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like, um, but I think that is the
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continual trend that we've heard for
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last many, many years. Um, and so we
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will report to you um, as soon as we
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hear that information, um, but I think
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that is to be expected, um, of a
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decrease in in our at least federal
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funding at this time.
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Um, just again, our personnel overview,
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uh, we have six full-time victim
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coordinators. Uh, together we cover the
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district, juvenile and specialty courts
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in the first district. Uh, our district
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court, uh, Sarah, Tonya, Jenny and
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Caitlin, uh, we are all on the Voca
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grant. Uh, the juvenile court is Candace
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and that is our UVSP grant. District and
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juvenile court is Linda, um, she is our
[18:38]
bilingual Spanish speaking advocate. Um,
[18:41]
Caitlin covers our specialty courts,
[18:42]
that is mental health and and drug
[18:44]
court. And all of our
[18:45]
coordinators cover our on-scene
[18:47]
response. Um, and we have an executive
[18:48]
assistant, Jennifer, um, who is critical
[18:50]
to our team.
[18:53]
I know there's a lot of numbers, you're
[18:54]
provided a lot of numbers, um,
[18:57]
but this is our quarter two numbers, um,
[18:59]
of this grant cycle. So from October
[19:01]
25th to December 25th, um, our federal
[19:04]
reporting, these are all the categories
[19:06]
that we have to report. Um, so we track
[19:09]
all of this information on a quarter
[19:11]
daily, but on a quarterly basis that we
[19:13]
turn over um, for our reporting. Um some
[19:16]
of the numbers at the very top um that I
[19:17]
think are helpful to just get a tiny perspective. Um our total new
[19:22]
victims, you know, every quarter we've
[19:23]
got new victims, but every quarter we
[19:26]
also serve
[19:27]
all of our victims at the same time. And
[19:30]
so in this quarter uh we had 301 new
[19:32]
victims, but over our overall our
[19:34]
victims we served were 654.
[19:37]
What's really hard is this is also how
[19:39]
the federal guidelines want us tracking
[19:41]
these cases. Um I have a personal
[19:44]
opinion um that I think this doesn't
[19:47]
equate for the true number of victims
[19:48]
that we work with during these quarters.
[19:51]
Um I think they are a lot larger. And so
[19:52]
I just wanted to to offer that
[19:54]
perspective on it. Um but as you can
[19:55]
see, you know, we go through what we
[19:57]
call persons and property crimes um and
[19:59]
we serve victims of all across the
[20:01]
board.
[20:03]
Um same for quarter three. This is
[20:05]
January um 25 to Oh, shoot. 26. I I'm messed up. I'm so sorry. January 26
[20:11]
to March 26. Um same thing we've had 275
[20:15]
new victims and our overall victims are
[20:16]
688.
[20:18]
Um
[20:19]
and every category ebbs and flows every
[20:21]
quarter, um but that's our numbers for
[20:24]
quarter three. We're just finishing up
[20:26]
quarter four, which will end um at the
[20:28]
end of June, and then we start our year
[20:30]
two cycle um of these grants. Okay.
[20:35]
So I just provided you guys with a lot
[20:36]
of numbers, um but I think numbers don't
[20:39]
equate to every single person. So I
[20:41]
wanted to give you an example of a
[20:43]
person in our community and what her
[20:46]
story was like. Um so this is a case of
[20:48]
walking in their shoes. Um this is a
[20:50]
defendant Jerry Rice.
[20:53]
I want to walk you through the many many
[20:55]
years that this young girl, as you can
[20:57]
see, this case started out when she was
[20:58]
6 to 7 years old.
[21:00]
Um
[21:01]
an incident happened um where she was a
[21:03]
victim uh that she was sexually
[21:05]
assaulted. Um it was a person that was
[21:07]
in the home. It was a family member. Um,
[21:10]
and she was really, really young. That
[21:12]
really shapes a young person. Um, and
[21:14]
when it's somebody that's living in the
[21:15]
home, that also brings a lot of fear of
[21:18]
how can I report what happened to me?
[21:20]
So, as you can see, the disclosure
[21:21]
happened when she was 14 years old. Um,
[21:23]
she disclosed to law enforcement that
[21:25]
she had been sexually assaulted. Um, she
[21:27]
was interviewed at the Children's
[21:28]
Justice Center. Law enforcement did
[21:30]
extensive interviewing um, to be able to
[21:32]
gather evidence for this case. Case was
[21:35]
then turned over to the County
[21:36]
Attorney's Office, and it was filed when
[21:38]
she was 15 years old in 2019.
[21:41]
He was charged with five counts of rape
[21:42]
of a child and five counts of sodomy on
[21:44]
a child.
[21:45]
We went through then through the court
[21:46]
process. So, that was ranging from 15
[21:49]
years old to 17 years old from 2019 to
[21:51]
2022.
[21:53]
We had 36 pre-trial hearings. We had a
[21:55]
four-day jury trial. Um, and this girl's
[21:58]
testimony will be a vivid memory in my
[22:00]
life probably forever.
[22:03]
Um,
[22:04]
the moment she got on that stand,
[22:06]
I think it impacted the jury instantly.
[22:08]
You could tell the fear and the the
[22:12]
anxiousness that she had to go through
[22:14]
in telling her story to these random
[22:17]
people that she doesn't know who they
[22:18]
are. She's got Jerry Rice right in front
[22:20]
of her in the courtroom. Um, it was a
[22:22]
terrifying an experience for a young, person.
[22:26]
So, at 17 years old in 2022, um, he was
[22:29]
found guilty um, of all 10 counts. He
[22:32]
was then sentenced to 50 years to life
[22:35]
in the Utah State Prison.
[22:37]
He then appealed his conviction um, and
[22:39]
went through the appeals process. And
[22:41]
then, you know, he went to prison as
[22:42]
well. Um, and then at 19 years old in
[22:45]
2024, um, the appeals the Utah Court of
[22:48]
Appeals denied that appeal. Um, now she
[22:52]
faces continuation
[22:54]
uh, with any potential uh, parole
[22:56]
hearings. She will then have an
[22:58]
opportunity to speak at the Board of
[22:59]
Pardons and Parole.
[23:01]
>> [laughter]
[23:01]
>> I hope this is a helpful perspective of
[23:03]
just unfortunately one person's story
[23:06]
out of those as you can see 600 plus
[23:08]
people that we deal with on a daily
[23:09]
basis here in our community.
[23:11]
Um but I I hope this can help you just
[23:13]
know
[23:15]
um how important this work is to be able
[23:17]
to help every single one of these
[23:18]
people.
[23:19]
So, that's my report. If anybody has any
[23:21]
questions or anything?
[23:25]
» Thank you.
[23:26]
>> These are this is an example of one that
[23:28]
did
[23:30]
>> Go all the way.
[23:31]
>> They came through and was strong and and
[23:34]
uh there's a but there's a lot of fear
[23:36]
out there. The the quiet ones that we
[23:39]
I guess just don't go through that
[23:41]
process.
[23:42]
>> Absolutely. And there's a there's
[23:43]
>> There's a lot of there's a lot of pain
[23:45]
that goes with it.
[23:45]
>> lot of pain to come forward. There's a
[23:46]
lot of pain to not come forward. Um and
[23:49]
we meet victims where they're at um
[23:51]
because it's still pain no matter what
[23:52]
it is. Mhm.
[23:55]
>> Thank you, Sarah.
[23:55]
>> Yeah, absolutely. Okay, thank you all.
[23:59]
» [clears throat] and cough]
[24:15]
» Uh my name is Scott Bodily. I'm the
[24:17]
director at the
[24:18]
Cache [snorts] Rich Children's Justice
[24:20]
Center.
[24:20]
I don't have a fancy
[24:23]
um media package to put up but I've got
[24:25]
some information I wanted to be able to
[24:27]
provide
[24:28]
uh for everybody here. Uh just as a
[24:30]
matter of clarification for those who
[24:32]
are unfamiliar with the Children's
[24:34]
Justice Center,
[24:35]
uh we are the evidence collection point
[24:37]
for a child abuse investigation
[24:40]
for
[24:41]
um Cache County, Rich County, and then
[24:44]
we work also cooperatively with Box
[24:46]
Elder County to provide medical
[24:48]
services. Medical services
[24:50]
are provided by contract through the
[24:52]
Primary Children's Medical Center.
[24:54]
Um
[24:56]
so they work at the CJC but they do not
[24:58]
work for the CJC.
[25:00]
Uh specifically with the idea of
[25:02]
creating a child-friendly environment um
[25:06]
where a child abuse victim can come and
[25:09]
talk about their experience
[25:11]
in a way that can be introduced into
[25:12]
court
[25:13]
for a criminal investigation.
[25:16]
Um
[25:18]
wanted to talk quickly about some
[25:19]
numbers.
[25:21]
Um
[25:24]
We talk about the number of interviews
[25:26]
that we do.
[25:27]
Um
[25:28]
And a lot of times I last year I
[25:30]
determined that that doesn't catch
[25:32]
everything that happens at the
[25:33]
Children's Justice Center.
[25:35]
So, for example,
[25:36]
in 2025 we had 222 interviews.
[25:40]
But I started looking at all the people
[25:42]
that come in to support that child.
[25:45]
Um and we started tracking those numbers
[25:47]
to to see who is coming in and receiving
[25:50]
services or referrals or just helping
[25:53]
that. That's law enforcement. That's our
[25:55]
multi-disciplinary team.
[25:57]
Um we started tracking that in March of
[25:59]
last year, and by the time the year was
[26:01]
over we had had 1,848 people come
[26:03]
through the Children's Justice Center.
[26:06]
Um using that metric our metrics for
[26:09]
this year,
[26:12]
um we already have 1,216
[26:15]
that have come through the Children's
[26:16]
Justice Center for 2026. Okay?
[26:20]
Uh we've seen a significant increase in
[26:23]
our caseload.
[26:25]
Um Working cooperatively with the County
[26:27]
Attorney's Office, we identified
[26:30]
a potential issue as far as
[26:32]
understanding with the turnover that law
[26:34]
enforcement has experienced, that DCFS
[26:35]
has experienced in how to bring cases or
[26:39]
when it's appropriate to bring cases to
[26:41]
the Children's Justice Center.
[26:43]
Um so, we did a training in January with
[26:45]
our multi-disciplinary team.
[26:49]
Immediately after that training, we saw
[26:50]
a huge increase in numbers. I'm not
[26:52]
going to say that the training was all
[26:54]
of it,
[26:55]
um but just as an example,
[26:57]
>> [snorts]
[26:58]
>> in 2025, we were averaging 20 interviews
[27:01]
a month.
[27:03]
So far in 2026, we're averaging 27 a
[27:06]
month.
[27:07]
Um
[27:10]
in 2025, we averaged 190 people coming
[27:13]
through the center. In 2026, we're
[27:15]
averaging 243 people per month
[27:19]
through the center.
[27:20]
Um
[27:23]
That That all represents
[27:26]
the work that we are doing with our
[27:28]
community to be able to help
[27:31]
um attorneys prosecute cases, to help
[27:34]
our multidisciplinary team investigate
[27:36]
cases,
[27:37]
and to be able to help
[27:39]
um kids heal through terrible
[27:42]
experiences.
[27:43]
Um
[27:48]
There's a lot of other numbers that we
[27:50]
could talk about, but I don't want to
[27:51]
take up all of the time, and and I know
[27:53]
that Dane has some things to present as
[27:55]
well.
[27:56]
Um so with that as a backdrop, I will
[27:59]
entertain any questions
[28:01]
if uh if anybody has some.
[28:07]
» Thank you, Scott.
[28:12]
» I I do have something, but we are at
[28:14]
time for our public hearings. So
[28:16]
>> Um I think we can go ahead and finish this,
[28:20]
and then we'll move on to the public
[28:21]
hearing. Thank you.
[28:29]
» Dane Murray, Cache County Attorney.
[28:31]
And the reason um
[28:34]
I decided to present and have Scott
[28:36]
present because we're required twice a
[28:37]
year to have a presentation on VOCA and
[28:39]
VAWA, but I thought this that's a good
[28:42]
time to just
[28:43]
update the council, the executive on
[28:46]
what our office is is working on, where
[28:49]
we're at for the year. And in
[28:51]
June just so happens to coincide with
[28:54]
our our number tracking cycle ending for
[28:57]
the previous year. That's kind of an
[28:59]
archaic um
[29:01]
goes back to the how we had rotated um
[29:04]
our special victims prosecutors in the
[29:06]
past on the 3-year cycle. So, we've
[29:07]
tracked cases on a 3-year cycle. We had
[29:10]
grant reporting that was that was due at
[29:13]
the end of June. And so, that's where
[29:15]
we've tracked. So, from June 1st of each
[29:17]
year to the next year on May 31st. And
[29:20]
so, um
[29:22]
up here we can you can see the the total
[29:24]
number of cases for 3-year periods
[29:27]
beginning in 2014 and the average number
[29:29]
of cases per year.
[29:31]
Um
[29:33]
And then you see what we had for that
[29:35]
same period in just 1 year in 2025-2026.
[29:39]
So, we had 643 cases, which is
[29:42]
um
[29:43]
our our 3-year average from 2022 to 2025
[29:46]
was 410. Last year we were about um 530.
[29:50]
So, we had a a little more than 100
[29:53]
additional cases year over year.
[29:56]
Um but over our 3-year average, we're almost at half in
[29:59]
um
[30:00]
more than half in 1 year of what our
[30:03]
3-year average our 3-year total was.
[30:05]
Um I think that
[30:07]
I I guess that there's some good news in
[30:08]
this. Our total number of cases
[30:10]
submitted by law enforcement went down
[30:13]
um a pretty significant amount from 300
[30:15]
3,029
[30:17]
in 2024 to 2025 to 200 2,000
[30:22]
659.
[30:24]
Um so, there is a de- decrease there,
[30:26]
but there's an increase in our special
[30:29]
victims cases. Um and that that includes
[30:32]
what's what's part of VAWA, but also
[30:34]
includes our internet crimes against
[30:37]
children. It includes our sex offender
[30:39]
registry violations, elder abuse, um
[30:42]
all all of those other person crimes
[30:44]
that we categorize as special victims.
[30:47]
Um
[30:49]
And so,
[30:50]
I I
[30:51]
Before I move on to to this um
[30:55]
this next thing that we're working on, I
[30:56]
just wanted to address the question that
[30:57]
the the co-chair asked. I think one of
[31:00]
the the reasons you're seeing our
[31:01]
investigators numbers go up is because
[31:04]
we have that resource and law
[31:06]
enforcement, when we're receiving that
[31:08]
many cases, it means law enforcement's
[31:10]
receiving that many and having to
[31:12]
investigate prior to sending for
[31:13]
prosecution.
[31:15]
And you hear from our local agencies,
[31:17]
from their their victim special victims
[31:19]
investigators, and they are carrying
[31:22]
case loads that are about at their the
[31:24]
maximum that a investigator can handle.
[31:27]
Um you talk to guys that were working 15
[31:30]
years ago who are now supervisors and
[31:31]
just saying that was everyone is at the
[31:34]
maximum I ever had, and that's just how
[31:35]
they're living their lives. And
[31:38]
um when you get to that point, you're
[31:40]
Luckily, the county attorney's office
[31:42]
has those
[31:43]
VAWA investigators that's able to to
[31:46]
assist. And I think that's what we're seeing is our year-over-year case
[31:49]
loads went up, and we've had a lot of
[31:50]
turnover in law enforcement. Um there's
[31:53]
a lot of younger investigators, and so
[31:55]
we have two really experienced
[31:56]
investigators in-house who are able to
[31:58]
help be a force multiplier for our local
[32:00]
law enforcement agencies. And I I think
[32:02]
that's a a really good benefit that
[32:05]
we're able to to fund through the VAWA
[32:07]
grant to have those resources for all of our agencies, cuz that's that's
[32:11]
something that touches every single
[32:13]
citizen here potentially.
[32:15]
Um
[32:16]
they work with every agency in the
[32:17]
county, from the sheriff's office to
[32:19]
North Park and
[32:21]
Smithfield and Logan City.
[32:23]
Um
[32:25]
And then I just wanted to to give an
[32:27]
update um
[32:29]
on on something that
[32:30]
our office is working on with CAPSA and
[32:33]
our local law enforcement. Um we have
[32:36]
what's called the domestic violence
[32:37]
response team in in Cache Valley and
[32:39]
it's a multi-disciplinary team made up
[32:41]
of law enforcement, prosecution, victim
[32:43]
services, and our community-based
[32:44]
organizations. We meet monthly um,
[32:48]
and and work on those relationships and
[32:50]
how we respond to domestic violence.
[32:52]
For the last year, um,
[32:55]
Michaela Hansey from from CAPSA and
[32:57]
myself have been working on implementing
[32:59]
what's called a domestic violence
[33:00]
high-risk team. That's become the
[33:03]
national standard for responding to
[33:05]
domestic violence and it's it's an
[33:07]
evidence-based
[33:08]
um,
[33:09]
program developed by the the Geiger
[33:11]
Institute, which is a a national
[33:14]
nationally recognized organization that started as a domestic violence
[33:17]
shelter similar to CAPSA and it expanded
[33:19]
into research and
[33:21]
um,
[33:22]
it's to identify the most dangerous
[33:24]
cases of intimate partner violence in a
[33:26]
community and then come up with a
[33:27]
coordinated response.
[33:29]
Um,
[33:30]
and
[33:31]
it's it's been shown by research um,
[33:34]
that domestic violence homicides, not
[33:37]
all of them, but a very good portion of
[33:39]
them are predictable and preventable
[33:41]
using lethality assessment. Um,
[33:45]
in Utah we have we use what's called the
[33:47]
LAP. It's the um,
[33:50]
just a lethality assessment protocol.
[33:52]
Um,
[33:53]
Cache County has going back many years
[33:56]
because of the work CAPSA's done and
[33:58]
because of the buy-in from our law
[33:59]
enforcement agencies, we've been using
[34:01]
that here. Um, just recently it was
[34:04]
mandated by the state that all law
[34:06]
enforcement agencies in the state use
[34:08]
that. But that's something that we've
[34:09]
been on the forefront of long prior to
[34:11]
being mandated.
[34:13]
So, we're we're working on on
[34:15]
implementing this. There's going to be
[34:16]
some memorandums of understanding
[34:18]
between the different agencies and
[34:19]
CAPSA. We're going to use those
[34:22]
um, lethality assessments to identify
[34:24]
which cases of intimate partner violence
[34:26]
that are coming to law enforcement have
[34:28]
the most potential for lethality in the
[34:30]
future and then use the resources we
[34:33]
have between our our different agencies
[34:36]
and our community organizations to help
[34:39]
get resources to those victims to try to
[34:42]
facilitate
[34:44]
better cooperation
[34:46]
because a lot of times it's just not
[34:48]
knowing what's out there for help to get
[34:50]
out of those situations
[34:52]
to help identify further investigation
[34:55]
and to help inform both the prosecutor
[34:58]
and people other people in the court
[35:00]
process of the danger this individual
[35:02]
poses to the public and so that's
[35:04]
something we're working on hopefully
[35:06]
within the next few months we'll we'll
[35:09]
we've had meetings we have a MOU that's
[35:14]
almost ready to to go out to the
[35:15]
different agencies for their their
[35:17]
review but I I really think that's going
[35:19]
to be a have a big impact on how we
[35:21]
respond to domestic violence in the
[35:22]
community and I I think it's a testament
[35:25]
to the relationships that we have um
[35:28]
just today we had the northern Utah
[35:30]
conference to end violence which is
[35:32]
co-sponsored by Utah State University
[35:34]
and CAPSA and that was a really great
[35:35]
opportunity to see all those different
[35:37]
groups come together
[35:39]
Sarah and I had an opportunity to speak
[35:41]
on the uh
[35:43]
a panel at the end with
[35:46]
Jill Anderson who's the CEO of CAPSA
[35:48]
with
[35:49]
Assistant Chief Houli and with the head
[35:51]
of New Hope who does the the sexual
[35:53]
assault nurse exams in in Cache County
[35:57]
now
[35:58]
and we were able to talk about the the
[36:00]
relationships that have been built over
[36:01]
years here and how that's benefiting
[36:04]
victims in our community and and really
[36:07]
that benefits our entire community
[36:09]
because at any given time someone could
[36:11]
end up
[36:12]
this this doesn't um
[36:17]
just limit itself to certain groups of
[36:18]
individuals anyone could end up being a
[36:20]
victim or knowing someone who's been
[36:22]
victimized and needs the help of CAPSA
[36:24]
or needs the help of law enforcement or
[36:26]
the county attorney's office, or any of
[36:28]
those other organizations. And I I think
[36:30]
we all should be proud that our
[36:31]
community has come together over the
[36:32]
years and built such a effective um
[36:36]
program here in the valley.
[36:39]
Any questions for me about our
[36:40]
department in general?
[36:42]
>> I uh
[36:44]
as the
[36:46]
it was alluded that as the deep possible
[36:48]
decrease in federal funding
[36:51]
>> [clears throat]
[36:53]
>> how are we going to make that up to be
[36:54]
able to keep up with
[36:55]
uh
[36:56]
this case?
[36:58]
>> And I I I hope that we don't lose that
[37:00]
federal funding, but I think that's the
[37:01]
reality that that we're in and there's
[37:03]
going to have to be
[37:05]
tough decisions to be made, whether it's
[37:08]
what what level of service can we
[37:09]
continue offering the public or
[37:12]
um
[37:12]
it it
[37:14]
Yeah, I think that's that's something
[37:15]
that's going to all throughout the
[37:17]
country um that's it's been a real
[37:19]
benefit to have some of those federal
[37:21]
grants to help victim services and
[37:23]
prosecution, cuz those are
[37:25]
um and law enforcement, law enforcement
[37:27]
agencies also receive those funds. And
[37:28]
so, as those federal funds dry up, it's
[37:31]
it really pushes burdens back onto the
[37:33]
communities.
[37:35]
Um
[37:35]
I I I hope that they don't es-
[37:38]
especially I'll I'll speak to VOCA
[37:41]
specifically, the funds are victim
[37:43]
services. That that's one that I really
[37:45]
hate to see dry up because it's not
[37:47]
coming from taxpayer dollars, it's
[37:48]
coming from fines from
[37:51]
federal defendants and from seizures.
[37:54]
And so, that that's one that it it just
[37:56]
really is unfortunate that that's drying up and it's just the nature of how sentences and things
[38:03]
are going these days.
[38:06]
But, but those those are going to be
[38:08]
tough dis- discussions that are going to
[38:10]
have to be had because that's the reality. You look at
[38:15]
statewide, our
[38:17]
domestic violence numbers across the
[38:18]
state have been increasing consistently
[38:21]
at about a 3% rate um
[38:23]
on top of just the natural gain from
[38:25]
population growth and Cache Valley
[38:28]
hasn't been immune to that.
[38:31]
» I appreciate you bringing that
[38:33]
information up right now that we can
[38:35]
keep talking about it.
[38:37]
>> And that's something that
[38:39]
unfortunately with how the federal
[38:42]
fiscal years line up and where the state
[38:44]
lines up, it puts the county in tough
[38:45]
position sometimes to not know what
[38:48]
we're we're going to have as far as
[38:49]
funding until partway through a year.
[38:51]
>> Yeah.
[38:54]
Anything
[38:56]
additional for the attorney?
[38:58]
Thank you. Thank you for all the
[39:00]
departments that spoke today for
[39:02]
all you do to bring justice and advocate
[39:05]
for the victims that we have here in our
[39:06]
community.
[39:07]
Thank you very much.
[39:10]
Heavy stuff that you would deal with.
[39:12]
Um
[39:15]
We're past the hour for the
[39:18]
um
[39:18]
public hearing, so we'll move on to the
[39:20]
item number seven
[39:22]
on our agenda and that is the public
[39:25]
hearings that we have for uh
[39:27]
three different public hearings. We'll
[39:29]
start with the Wellsville safe storage
[39:31]
two rezone.
[39:34]
We'll get some background.
[39:38]
Thank you.
[39:40]
Brian.
[39:41]
>> Good evening.
[39:42]
Brian Abbott with Development Services.
[39:45]
Uh tonight we've got the Wellsville safe
[39:47]
storage rezone.
[39:50]
Um
[39:52]
This is located off Highway 89 91.
[39:57]
Sorry, next one.
[40:00]
Um it's north of the American West
[40:01]
Heritage Center, east of two Cache
[40:04]
County owned parcels
[40:06]
meant for future outdoor recreation use.
[40:09]
It's in a view corridor identified by
[40:11]
COG SAC. The south is the Wellsville
[40:14]
city boundary, but the is off of the
[40:16]
county road.
[40:18]
As you can see on this map here, the
[40:20]
yellow represents agricultural A10.
[40:22]
That's the vast majority of the
[40:24]
surrounding property.
[40:26]
There's a little square of purple and
[40:27]
that's an industrial zone near Hyrum
[40:30]
JBS. That was rezoned in 2018.
[40:33]
There's just a sliver of red on that
[40:36]
end there.
[40:38]
That's some commercial storage units
[40:40]
near
[40:41]
Nibley and then all of the green lines
[40:43]
represent a future annexation area for
[40:45]
Wellsville, Nibley, and Hyrum.
[40:48]
Just a brief overview, this rezone
[40:50]
request is for 8 acres.
[40:53]
This came up for a rezone request
[40:57]
in the industrial zone. That was denied.
[41:01]
The planning commission recommended
[41:03]
denial 4-2 and the county council denied
[41:06]
it 5-1. That was on March 24th.
[41:09]
The current request to rezone to the is
[41:11]
for a commercial zone. This would allow
[41:14]
for commercial business, commercial
[41:15]
kennel and animal shelter, self-service
[41:17]
storage facilities,
[41:19]
general vehicle repair, recreation
[41:21]
facility, campground,
[41:23]
medical services and facilities, and
[41:26]
additional uses.
[41:28]
This came before planning commission May
[41:29]
21st of this year. Planning commission
[41:32]
recommended denial of the rezone to the
[41:34]
county council on a 5-2 vote.
[41:37]
Public comments received against the
[41:39]
proposed rezone were received by Utah
[41:42]
State University and the American West
[41:44]
Heritage Center.
[41:46]
Some conclusions is that the commercial
[41:48]
uses are not consistent with surrounding
[41:50]
land uses, which are agriculture.
[41:53]
And the nearest commercial zone is 1.74
[41:56]
miles to the southeast.
[41:59]
Any questions for me on this?
[42:05]
» After the public hearing is closed.
[42:08]
>> Thank you.
[42:10]
Okay, we will now open the public
[42:12]
hearing for ordinance 2026 - Thursday 30
[42:16]
Wellsville Safe Storage to rezone.
[42:19]
Um
[42:20]
we will keep the comments to 2 minutes.
[42:23]
Andrew um will have
[42:25]
uh
[42:26]
running stopwatch there and I we ask
[42:29]
that
[42:30]
uh you bring
[42:32]
new uh comments if if something you were
[42:34]
going to say has already been stated
[42:36]
um
[42:38]
just bring new comments with with each
[42:40]
comment, please, and be civil in your
[42:42]
comments, please.
[42:43]
And and it is now open and come and
[42:46]
state your name and your address at the
[42:50]
microphone.
[42:51]
Or city you live in.
[42:53]
excuse me.
[43:05]
» Uh Travis Baldwin.
[43:07]
Um
[43:08]
you want my address, too?
[43:09]
>> Just the city you live in.
[43:10]
>> Paradise.
[43:11]
>> Thanks.
[43:12]
>> Um
[43:14]
I did send some emails. I don't know if
[43:16]
you guys forwarded them to the county
[43:18]
council. I sent them to Connor
[43:19]
yesterday.
[43:22]
Um I had some AI models mock-ups that
[43:26]
you guys could see how we could I know
[43:28]
one of the big things is this FedEx
[43:30]
going along there. Um we did some berms
[43:33]
with some bushes on top so you could
[43:35]
hide them aesthetically. Um you could
[43:37]
put some river rock in there with the
[43:39]
berm and then put some trees on it so
[43:41]
that way you can
[43:43]
uh match that surrounding landscape and
[43:45]
then we can color the storage units a
[43:47]
light brown or whatever
[43:49]
um or a cream color to match the wheat
[43:52]
fields or the alfalfa fields. We could
[43:54]
do green and light green um to match
[43:57]
those surrounding areas.
[43:59]
Um again, we're we're good neighbors.
[44:01]
We've
[44:02]
um
[44:04]
we're We're there to to put a big
[44:07]
um eyesore
[44:09]
uh coming into Cache Valley. We'd like
[44:11]
it aesthetic
[44:13]
for the last 15 years I've donated to
[44:15]
the American West Heritage Center of my
[44:16]
business has. That's something we plan
[44:18]
on doing and supporting and helping them out.
[44:22]
Um
[44:23]
and I did not bring any of those
[44:24]
pictures, but I am sorry. I sent them to
[44:27]
Connor. He said he'd forward them to you
[44:28]
guys.
[44:30]
Did you guys get them?
[44:33]
>> That is at the start of the year.
[44:35]
>> Yeah, we got them in the packet. We did.
[44:37]
receive the pictures.
[44:38]
>> Okay. As I I gave you guys three of them
[44:40]
so you guys could look.
[44:42]
>> They were received 6 6 9 of 2026 is when
[44:45]
they were received I guess for us.
[44:48]
>> Okay.
[44:48]
>> Sent to us.
[44:50]
So it's yeah, it's in the packet.
[44:51]
>> Okay. But it has one has a berm, one
[44:54]
just has some large trees. I mean, I had
[44:57]
bushes out in Paradise, some shrubs that
[44:59]
were 10 ft tall that you couldn't see in
[45:01]
my backyard. So that's why I said,
[45:03]
there's different things we can do to
[45:05]
help alleviate and
[45:07]
uh do that. The other thing is I know
[45:09]
you guys didn't want it in the
[45:10]
industrial zone and so we came back in
[45:12]
the commercial and that was some of your
[45:13]
guys's biggest um
[45:16]
hold-ups against it. So
[45:18]
we came back with the commercial.
[45:20]
Do you guys have any questions for me?
[45:28]
Okay.
[45:29]
Thank you guys.
[45:41]
» Margaret Bosworth and I'm part owner of
[45:43]
the Christensen 8 acres, myself and my
[45:46]
brother.
[45:47]
And I do appreciate [clears throat] you
[45:49]
letting us come back and and talk to you
[45:51]
again. And just in the meetings that
[45:53]
I've been to and that
[45:55]
in the last meeting there was a
[45:57]
gentleman from the American West says
[45:59]
that it was never approached
[46:02]
to buy it. And I mean if if that's what
[46:04]
he if that's what he found, that's fine.
[46:07]
They've never approached us on buying it
[46:09]
when they did buy the the two prior
[46:12]
uh west pieces that uh borders ours. At
[46:15]
that time, Utah State, as far as I know
[46:17]
talking to my brother, have not
[46:19]
approached him on buying it.
[46:22]
And it really wouldn't be any difference
[46:24]
if either one of them did.
[46:26]
We would want We would want to know what
[46:28]
would go on that property as we are
[46:30]
concerned just what it looks like, what
[46:33]
it benefits, and the looks of it that we
[46:36]
would want it to be nice depending on
[46:38]
who whoever bought it. Uh
[46:41]
the only thing my big concern is I think
[46:45]
you need to really consider property
[46:47]
right owners right property owners
[46:49]
rights.
[46:50]
And when you are a land owner, I mean, I
[46:53]
know I mean, I love Wellsville and and
[46:56]
everything, too, and coming into the
[46:58]
valley and everything, also.
[47:01]
But I think you need to look at property
[47:04]
right owners the rights and uh lost
[47:08]
revenue for our family in what we want
[47:10]
to do with that piece of ground, whether
[47:13]
now or down the road.
[47:16]
And I guess that's all I've got to say.
[47:18]
Is there any questions for me?
[47:22]
» Thank you.
[47:23]
>> Okay.
[47:32]
» Move to close the public hearing.
[47:34]
>> [cough]
[47:35]
>> Second.
[47:36]
>> Unless there's others.
[47:37]
>> Can I just say something really quick?
[47:39]
>> Uh yes.
[47:41]
Follow protocol. Thank you.
[47:46]
» My name is Deborah Van Noy, and I just
[47:48]
wanted to comment on the topic of these smaller parcels of land. There would be an opportunity for
[47:57]
generating
[47:58]
uh very attractive revenue for these
[48:00]
property owners by considering
[48:02]
protecting the land
[48:04]
with a conservation easement because it
[48:06]
is part of the gateway into Cache
[48:07]
Valley.
[48:08]
And I don't know if these owners have
[48:10]
thought about that as an option, but it
[48:12]
certainly is a valuable one. I know that
[48:15]
these acreages are in the 8 to 10 acre
[48:18]
level, not large, but because they are
[48:20]
in that view corridor, they would be
[48:22]
very valuable. I just wanted to add that
[48:24]
comment.
[48:25]
>> Thank you.
[48:36]
» Mike Baldwin, I'm from Wellsville. There
[48:38]
I just live a couple miles from that spot.
[48:42]
And
[48:43]
yeah, I we did put it
[48:45]
back to you guys. I appreciate you re-
[48:48]
taking another look at this.
[48:50]
And I do appreciate the the open space
[48:52]
and I've worked with some conservation
[48:54]
easements in the past with my father's
[48:56]
land.
[48:57]
And it it has worked out.
[49:00]
But this is a smaller one. The amount of
[49:02]
revenue you can generate with that is
[49:04]
limited
[49:05]
compared to what
[49:07]
you can do for
[49:08]
the Bosworth and Christensen family.
[49:10]
They're the ones that came to us cuz we
[49:12]
had another project that's that they
[49:14]
were working on, their their son.
[49:17]
And said, "Hey, we'd love to have that
[49:19]
on our property here." I said, "Let's
[49:20]
let's take a look and see if we can make
[49:22]
this work for you." So, that's how it
[49:25]
came together.
[49:27]
For me, it's just and residents of
[49:29]
Wellsville, just like me,
[49:32]
that are around there, there's nowhere
[49:34]
to go that isn't already full near us.
[49:38]
We went through the planning and zoning
[49:40]
and again,
[49:41]
the gentleman that we might compete with
[49:43]
out in Mendon on that corridor coming
[49:45]
in, this is another open space corridor
[49:48]
coming in on the west side of the valley
[49:50]
Uh,
[49:51]
has storage sheds Again, voted and
[49:53]
didn't recuse himself of that, either.
[49:56]
Uh, which was unfortunate, uh, where
[49:58]
it's a conflict of interest on that. So,
[50:01]
uh, but they did speak out, several of
[50:03]
them, uh, about the property rights, uh,
[50:05]
on the planning zoning commission, as
[50:07]
well, that voted for it.
[50:09]
So, that that's, uh,
[50:11]
something to consider, uh,
[50:14]
the her family has is being able to, uh,
[50:17]
generate that income. They have a farm
[50:19]
down below there. This is a piece that
[50:21]
they can't farm without leasing it out
[50:23]
to somebody else to try to do that. So,
[50:25]
it limits the income uh, they can get
[50:27]
just just off the leasing rights, not
[50:29]
generating it with their own. So,
[50:32]
any questions?
[50:34]
>> So, I have a question. So, you're the
[50:36]
developer.
[50:38]
You're not the owner of the property,
[50:40]
right? She's the owner, and you're the
[50:42]
developer, right?
[50:44]
>> Yes, I'm they they came to us, and we
[50:46]
had a project there
[50:48]
and where I was in Wellsville, as well,
[50:50]
and have another business in Wellsville,
[50:53]
uh, there that, uh, we just built. She wanted some help in in being able to
[50:56]
put something together where they didn't
[50:58]
know how to do it on their own. And so,
[51:00]
that's why we said, instead of us just
[51:01]
buying the piece from you, let's invest
[51:04]
together, uh, on that, so it doesn't
[51:06]
just
[51:07]
you know, profit me or another partner
[51:10]
that it that it helps their their
[51:11]
family, as well, long term. And that's a
[51:14]
fit that worked for them.
[51:15]
>> Thank you.
[51:16]
>> You're welcome.
[51:34]
» Move to close the public hearing.
[51:35]
>> Second.
[51:36]
>> I'll second.
[51:37]
>> Is there's others?
[51:39]
>> Any further discussion? No? All those in
[51:41]
favor say aye.
[51:41]
>> Aye.
[51:43]
Okay, moving on to
[51:45]
the ordinance 2026-31,
[51:48]
Richmond City Creek Rezone.
[51:53]
» [clears throat]
[51:54]
>> All right. So, the Richmond City Creek
[51:57]
Rezone
[51:58]
is just south of Richmond on Highway 91,
[52:02]
uh 9000 North. It's current use right now is
[52:07]
agriculture, and all of the surrounding
[52:08]
areas are agriculture with a few houses
[52:11]
uh located around there.
[52:14]
A brief overview, this rezone request is
[52:17]
for 7.58 acres on two parcels
[52:20]
from agriculture to industrial.
[52:23]
The nearest industrial zone is uh the is
[52:26]
to the north
[52:27]
uh 0.38 acres. Uh it was Lower Foods
[52:30]
that rezone
[52:32]
um was approved uh earlier this year.
[52:36]
The industrial zone would allow for
[52:38]
storage and warehousing, self-storage
[52:40]
facilities, transport services, general
[52:42]
vehicle repair, crematorium, and and
[52:44]
some other uses.
[52:46]
This came before the planning commission
[52:47]
also on May 21st of this year. Planning
[52:50]
commission recommended approval of the
[52:52]
rezone to the county council 7 to 0.
[52:55]
Their conclusions, the property is
[52:56]
consistent with the industrial zone.
[52:59]
The nearest parcel zoned industrial is
[53:01]
just north of the subject property.
[53:04]
Richmond City provided comment that they
[53:06]
have no issues with this rezone.
[53:09]
>> Thank you, Brian. And
[53:11]
same guidelines as the previous
[53:15]
public hearing.
[53:16]
Please step to the podium and state your
[53:18]
name and and the city you reside and
[53:21]
keep your comments to about 2 minutes,
[53:22]
please.
[53:32]
» Hello, I'm Judson Eads. Um I'm the one
[53:35]
that's
[53:36]
uh under contract to buy that if it can
[53:38]
be rezoned, and
[53:40]
I probably need to be coached cuz I've
[53:41]
never done this before, so I don't know
[53:42]
if there's questions or anything I
[53:44]
should be
[53:45]
uh telling you that I haven't thought of
[53:47]
or go if you got any recommendations
[53:48]
ready to or questions you might have,
[53:49]
let me know.
[53:53]
» I've heard it, so I'm good, so.
[53:56]
>> I was in the planning and zoning
[53:57]
>> Public hearing goes, no no questions.
[54:00]
Public hearing, so.
[54:01]
>> Yeah.
[54:02]
I
[54:04]
>> Not not a data center.
[54:05]
>> Not a data center.
[54:06]
>> say what I want to do with not a data
[54:07]
center.
[54:08]
>> Ah.
[54:09]
I I don't know. I don't have any
[54:11]
questions.
[54:12]
>> You have questions of what to do with
[54:13]
it, but I
[54:14]
Is that something I should answer?
[54:16]
>> You can.
[54:17]
>> do with it?
[54:18]
>> Uh I own Adrenaline Industries, and we
[54:20]
build um expedition trucks, which are
[54:22]
like off-road motor homes.
[54:24]
>> Cool.
[54:27]
Any other questions for proponent?
[54:29]
>> No, I've got some for Brian, but
[54:31]
>> Okay.
[54:33]
>> Good.
[54:33]
>> All right, thanks.
[54:41]
Any other public comment?
[54:44]
» Move to close the public hearing.
[54:46]
>> Second.
[54:47]
>> All those in favor, say aye. Aye.
[54:49]
>> Aye.
[54:50]
>> Okay, moving on to resolution 2026-17,
[54:54]
opening and amending the Cache County
[54:56]
2026 budget,
[54:58]
third amendment.
[55:00]
Mr. Funk.
[55:07]
» Matthew Funk, Cache County auditor.
[55:09]
This um
[55:11]
budget opening is for the second
[55:13]
quarter. We have um
[55:15]
each quarter. Um this budget amendment
[55:18]
would allow us to uh proceed with uh
[55:21]
booking about a million dollars of
[55:24]
revenue. Most of that would be inner or
[55:26]
inner governmental revenue or the grants
[55:28]
and what have you.
[55:30]
Um expenditures uh in this opening would
[55:33]
be 6.3 million dollars.
[55:36]
At least 4 million of that uh would be funded by wraps.
[55:41]
So,
[55:42]
um
[55:43]
and would uh adjust fund balances down
[55:45]
by 5.2 million. Again, that's mostly
[55:48]
wraps. It would actually increase the
[55:49]
fund balance in the general fund by
[55:51]
177,000
[55:53]
dollars.
[55:55]
>> Thank you.
[56:01]
Any uh public comment concerning the
[56:03]
resolution 2026-17?
[56:06]
Um following the same protocol, we know.
[56:12]
Okay, seeing there is none.
[56:13]
>> Move to close public hearing.
[56:15]
>> Second.
[56:16]
>> All those in favor say aye.
[56:17]
>> Aye.
[56:18]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[56:21]
Um item number eight, we'll move on to
[56:23]
initial proposals for consideration of
[56:25]
action. And 8A is ordinance 2026-30
[56:29]
Wells Bell Safe Storage 2 rezone. And
[56:33]
Brian, if we could have you I think
[56:35]
there's there's some additional
[56:37]
questions for you, if you don't mind.
[56:49]
Sorry, trying to pull it up.
[56:58]
» The road
[56:59]
that passes this
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it is a minor
[57:03]
local road.
[57:04]
>> Yeah.
[57:05]
>> And the the county owns that right now.
[57:07]
>> And industrial and commercial are not
[57:08]
allowed?
[57:09]
>> Uh
[57:10]
I have one of their conditions, if
[57:12]
approved, would be to upgrade that road.
[57:17]
» At the cost That'd be their cost.
[57:18]
>> Developer's cost, yes.
[57:28]
» What's the distance to the The from the
[57:31]
highway to there.
[57:33]
Uh access.
[57:35]
>> It's the very first parcel right as you
[57:37]
turn. So.
[57:39]
Not very far at all.
[57:41]
>> But there is no they have no frontage
[57:42]
themselves to
[57:44]
US 89, right?
[57:45]
>> Correct.
[57:47]
>> But they have to improve it the entire
[57:48]
length of the property?
[57:49]
>> Of their property.
[58:03]
» Uh there's quite a
[58:05]
there is quite a distance between there
[58:08]
and other commercial properties.
[58:10]
I know it's the uh
[58:11]
>> Um in the county, yeah. About a
[58:14]
just under 2 mi to the next one.
[58:16]
>> 1.67.
[58:18]
>> Yeah.
[58:22]
» And those those prop all those
[58:23]
properties
[58:25]
do they have frontage to US 89 that are
[58:28]
zoned commercial?
[58:30]
>> Um
[58:33]
I don't think they're on the US 89.
[58:39]
» But that one they
[58:40]
>> understand your question correctly.
[58:41]
>> No, all the other commercial properties
[58:44]
that are in that area there that are do
[58:47]
they have frontage to US 89?
[58:50]
That are
[58:51]
within that 1.67 mi?
[58:55]
>> I I feel I don't know if I should speak.
[58:57]
I think some of the ones they they turn
[58:59]
off of the road and kind of have
[59:00]
frontage roads of their own to them.
[59:02]
>> Come back, yeah.
[59:04]
>> The the one I'm thinking about, that's
[59:05]
what they do.
[59:06]
>> Are there any in Wellsville city limits?
[59:10]
>> Yeah, pallets of I don't know what their
[59:12]
name is. There's a pallet company that
[59:13]
just got put in. That's the one that
[59:14]
kind of
[59:14]
>> That's the big one.
[59:15]
>> comes in and and then kind of has their
[59:17]
own frontage
[59:18]
>> And that's in that's incorporated?
[59:20]
>> Yeah.
[59:21]
>> And how how far away is that?
[59:23]
>> It's close.
[59:24]
>> Just cross the highway?
[59:25]
>> Yep. About, yeah.
[59:28]
>> And that's Is that industrial or is that
[59:29]
commercial in there?
[59:31]
So it's different. They're They have
[59:33]
different zoning. Okay. It's pretty big.
[59:36]
>> Has there been any reported safety
[59:38]
issues? I know with
[59:40]
the I know when there's events that come
[59:42]
out of and utilize that road to get out
[59:44]
of the events that are at the American
[59:45]
West
[59:46]
Heritage.
[59:48]
Uh
[59:49]
it's quite a safety concern. There's a
[59:51]
lot of them that refuse to turn left
[59:53]
there.
[59:53]
>> Yeah, they make most people turn right
[59:55]
and then they go down the road a ways
[59:57]
and do a U-turn.
[59:58]
>> [laughter]
[59:59]
>> I've seen that quite happen quite a bit
[1:00:01]
and
[1:00:02]
>> Hopefully they go to the light.
[1:00:05]
How far is it to the light?
[1:00:08]
2 miles?
[1:00:13]
I don't know. Everyone goes so fast,
[1:00:15]
it's all relative. I mean other people
[1:00:17]
do, not me.
[1:00:18]
>> If you're walking, it's a long ways. If
[1:00:19]
you're driving, it's just a little ways.
[1:00:20]
>> Yeah.
[1:00:27]
And And I should have asked you while
[1:00:28]
you were up here, did you try to
[1:00:29]
incorporate into Wellsville where you
[1:00:32]
are adjacent to Wellsville?
[1:00:34]
>> We have not yet.
[1:00:36]
>> Okay.
[1:00:37]
Cuz it is adjacent to Wellsville City,
[1:00:39]
correct?
[1:00:40]
>> Correct.
[1:00:43]
Uh
[1:00:44]
We were within the county, we
[1:00:46]
>> Just wanted to
[1:00:47]
Okay.
[1:00:51]
» But what's the distance between that
[1:00:53]
property and Wellsville City though?
[1:00:55]
>> The next
[1:00:57]
>> It's right against the across the
[1:00:58]
street.
[1:00:59]
>> American West Heritage Center is in
[1:01:01]
Wellsville City.
[1:01:04]
» Oh, across the small road. The front of
[1:01:05]
Oh, across the little road. Not the high
[1:01:07]
Not the highway.
[1:01:08]
>> Yeah, and then across the highway.
[1:01:10]
Anything south Like you said, you can
[1:01:12]
see it up there. That's Wellsville City.
[1:01:14]
>> Oh, yeah. Okay.
[1:01:16]
>> Just right across the street.
[1:01:18]
>> Got you.
[1:01:18]
>> We do not have frontage on 8991.
[1:01:23]
Um
[1:01:23]
but you can buy it.
[1:01:25]
We have to go back
[1:01:26]
>> off on that, whatever that road is
[1:01:29]
called.
[1:01:29]
>> Yeah, we don't have frontage on anything
[1:01:30]
now.
[1:01:32]
>> Okay.
[1:01:33]
>> So, the entryway would be on that minor
[1:01:36]
road. And as you pointed out, it wasn't
[1:01:38]
It is a minor road, but
[1:01:40]
it did take on 8 to 10,000 people
[1:01:44]
in the last month.
[1:01:46]
That's the minor road there. So,
[1:01:47]
arguably the minor road is
[1:01:49]
definitely
[1:01:50]
the most traveled minor road in the
[1:01:51]
county.
[1:02:02]
» I guess I'll I'll state my concern
[1:02:04]
previously when we reviewed this.
[1:02:06]
I didn't think that industrial would be
[1:02:09]
the proper zoning
[1:02:11]
for this. And And so, I think bringing
[1:02:14]
it in with a commercial application for
[1:02:17]
zoning
[1:02:18]
um
[1:02:20]
is is more appropriate. Um I I ideally
[1:02:23]
would love to see it be in a gateway and
[1:02:25]
to be open space, but also
[1:02:27]
we deal with willing landowners. And
[1:02:29]
that's right in what we state with our
[1:02:32]
COZAC and and other things. And And that
[1:02:34]
means that it has to be something that
[1:02:36]
they would
[1:02:38]
propose themselves
[1:02:40]
and not be compelled to do. And so,
[1:02:43]
believing in their right to develop
[1:02:45]
their property
[1:02:46]
um
[1:02:47]
I I don't see why I how I would deny
[1:02:50]
this.
[1:02:59]
» I kind of like the idea that they did
[1:03:02]
switch from industrial to commercial.
[1:03:05]
And they're so close to commercial in
[1:03:08]
Wellsville City, too.
[1:03:11]
That
[1:03:13]
makes it a lot better to me cuz I think
[1:03:16]
I know probably America West Heritage is that zoned agriculture?
[1:03:23]
Or
[1:03:24]
But it's very commercial.
[1:03:26]
Even if it is agriculture.
[1:03:28]
>> out of the year it is, huh?
[1:03:29]
>> Yeah.
[1:03:31]
Well, they do it
[1:03:33]
they have a year round program.
[1:03:34]
>> They do. They do.
[1:03:40]
» It just seems so
[1:03:41]
It really does seem so different right
[1:03:44]
in the middle of all that agriculture
[1:03:46]
area.
[1:03:47]
Uh
[1:03:48]
I I know it would have an effect
[1:03:52]
you know, no matter how
[1:03:53]
much you tried to hide it. It would
[1:03:56]
stand out
[1:03:58]
in uh
[1:04:00]
just
[1:04:01]
you know, just appro- approaching that
[1:04:03]
whole area right there is they're trying to make that a heritage a
[1:04:06]
heritage area.
[1:04:08]
And I uh
[1:04:10]
I I worry that uh
[1:04:14]
it would be to me it'd be somewhat
[1:04:16]
blighted bringing in a a business
[1:04:18]
right next to all of that.
[1:04:21]
>> Well, what I noticed coming through
[1:04:22]
there is all the buildings from Utah
[1:04:25]
State, all their agriculture things.
[1:04:28]
There's a lot of buildings. I mean
[1:04:30]
>> A lot of agriculture buildings, not just
[1:04:32]
that.
[1:04:33]
>> classed agriculture, but they're still
[1:04:35]
buildings. You know, with big
[1:04:37]
agriculture
[1:04:38]
>> Well, 25 pallets of Utah's like 20,000
[1:04:41]
square foot building across the street.
[1:04:42]
>> Yeah.
[1:04:43]
>> I mean, it's massive.
[1:04:45]
>> So, I think the view is really
[1:04:49]
kind of
[1:04:50]
already taken up
[1:04:52]
with buildings. That's what I noticed
[1:04:54]
coming through there.
[1:04:59]
» Well, it's an issue, so it's up to
[1:05:03]
>> Yeah, we can continue.
[1:05:06]
>> No motion. I can't make a motion.
[1:05:11]
» Continue?
[1:05:11]
>> Do you have to change the rules or of
[1:05:13]
that?
[1:05:13]
>> Uh we can continue it and and
[1:05:16]
take action on next
[1:05:19]
meeting or we can take most take an
[1:05:22]
action today. Either way.
[1:05:25]
It's the first time that we're seeing it
[1:05:27]
so we can just
[1:05:29]
>> Go straight.
[1:05:30]
>> We can do it next meeting as well.
[1:05:32]
>> The rules would need to be suspended.
[1:05:33]
>> Yeah.
[1:05:34]
>> If we were to take action today we'd
[1:05:35]
suspend the rules.
[1:05:35]
>> Oh
[1:05:41]
» Well, it seems like they've been coming.
[1:05:43]
We've continued and continued
[1:05:46]
already, but if you think you need more
[1:05:49]
information or shall I make a motion
[1:05:52]
suspend the rules and make a motion that
[1:05:54]
we accept the rezone
[1:05:57]
of Wellsville 2. That's how I feel about
[1:05:59]
it.
[1:06:00]
>> Of ordinance 2026-3?
[1:06:02]
>> Yeah, mhm.
[1:06:03]
>> Okay, we have a motion made by Joanne.
[1:06:06]
Is there a second?
[1:06:08]
>> I'll second.
[1:06:09]
>> Okay.
[1:06:10]
We have any further discussion on the
[1:06:11]
motion on the floor?
[1:06:14]
» This is a tough one. Um
[1:06:18]
just north of there there is property
[1:06:21]
for sale on both sides of the highway.
[1:06:24]
Um I love the idea of open space and I
[1:06:27]
love the idea of
[1:06:29]
vistas and corridors, but at the same
[1:06:31]
time I love the idea of property rights.
[1:06:35]
Um
[1:06:37]
I've wrestled with this, but um
[1:06:42]
I I have a problem and I've we've got a
[1:06:46]
letter here. I got emails
[1:06:49]
during the week of not wanting it there.
[1:06:53]
But um
[1:06:58]
I have a hard time saying that we're
[1:07:00]
putting this
[1:07:01]
coverage on this property and not giving
[1:07:03]
property owners say so what goes on this
[1:07:05]
coverage as far as an open vista and
[1:07:07]
everything else. I love the open vistas.
[1:07:09]
I have ground of my own I want to keep
[1:07:10]
open, but
[1:07:12]
um we got growth, so
[1:07:17]
And I want to support the planning and
[1:07:20]
zoning, but there was a great debate in
[1:07:22]
planning and zoning.
[1:07:24]
And um
[1:07:25]
I'm going to side with the two of the
[1:07:27]
planning and zoning who
[1:07:29]
denied this and I'm going to agree with
[1:07:32]
what um
[1:07:34]
Joanna's proposed
[1:07:35]
>> here.
[1:07:37]
» The executive, yes.
[1:07:38]
>> Um
[1:07:40]
you're just bending your rules to vote
[1:07:42]
on it.
[1:07:43]
It's a major issue. I wonder if you
[1:07:45]
shouldn't have a full quorum
[1:07:47]
to dispose of this issue.
[1:07:51]
>> Noted, thank you.
[1:07:52]
>> had question for you.
[1:07:54]
>> Thank you.
[1:07:58]
» It's a good point.
[1:08:02]
Commissioner or council members, what
[1:08:04]
your thoughts of what the executive
[1:08:05]
said?
[1:08:08]
There is a motion on the floor, but
[1:08:09]
>> a motion on the floor.
[1:08:12]
So
[1:08:17]
We need to vote on the motion on the
[1:08:19]
floor.
[1:08:21]
Um all those in favor say I.
[1:08:24]
>> I.
[1:08:24]
Any opposed?
[1:08:26]
>> Nay.
[1:08:27]
>> Motion prevails.
[1:08:29]
Okay, moving on. We will go to
[1:08:34]
ordinance 2026-31
[1:08:37]
Richmond City Creek rezone. Thanks,
[1:08:40]
Brian. You just are planted there for a
[1:08:42]
minute.
[1:08:43]
>> It's all right.
[1:08:47]
Questions?
[1:08:47]
>> Questions?
[1:08:50]
It's adjacent to industrial.
[1:08:52]
>> Yeah, Lowers is just to the north of it
[1:08:55]
a couple of fields. Yeah.
[1:08:56]
>> Oh, a couple of fields. So it's not
[1:08:58]
>> Yeah.
[1:08:58]
>> 1.38 miles. So it would be a similar
[1:09:00]
>> .38
[1:09:01]
>> Oh, .38. Oh.
[1:09:02]
>> Uh
[1:09:03]
is there only one point of access?
[1:09:06]
>> It'll be on I think that's 9000 North. I
[1:09:08]
call it Whiskey Lane my whole life.
[1:09:10]
>> There there it I just looking at the
[1:09:12]
maps it didn't look like it came over
[1:09:14]
>> It won't come off of the highway the
[1:09:15]
access to this property.
[1:09:16]
>> going to say UDOT will have a
[1:09:19]
I don't think they want to take on UDOT.
[1:09:20]
>> 9000 North
[1:09:24]
>> So that's where their access then will
[1:09:26]
be.
[1:09:26]
>> Yep.
[1:09:31]
» Whiskey Lane?
[1:09:32]
>> Yeah.
[1:09:33]
>> Is that what You got You got to be from
[1:09:34]
the north You got to be from the north
[1:09:36]
to call it that?
[1:09:37]
>> But he didn't name it.
[1:09:38]
>> Oh, okay.
[1:09:40]
>> I don't think so.
[1:09:41]
>> No. No.
[1:09:45]
» It was named that when we learned to
[1:09:46]
drive on there.
[1:09:47]
>> highways but you're saying the access
[1:09:48]
will be from from
[1:09:49]
this lane.
[1:09:50]
>> 9000 North
[1:09:52]
>> Matt lives on
[1:09:54]
Matt Funk
[1:09:54]
>> Oh, Matt Funk lives on that. Oh, okay.
[1:09:57]
He might have named it.
[1:09:58]
>> How it's coming together. back in the
[1:10:00]
>> [laughter]
[1:10:02]
>> Okay, is there any further questions
[1:10:04]
that we have?
[1:10:05]
Or any action that we want to take this
[1:10:07]
evening?
[1:10:09]
>> I would move to suspend the rules and
[1:10:11]
pass ordinance 2026-31.
[1:10:14]
>> Second.
[1:10:15]
>> We'll take Nolan. Second by Nolan.
[1:10:18]
Uh any further discussion?
[1:10:20]
Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote.
[1:10:21]
All those in favor say aye.
[1:10:23]
>> Aye.
[1:10:24]
>> Any opposed?
[1:10:26]
The motion prevails. Okay, thank you.
[1:10:29]
Now we'll move to the resolution
[1:10:30]
providing round one approval of 2026-19,
[1:10:34]
excuse me, providing round one approval
[1:10:37]
to the Birch Canyon Weed and Seed Co-op
[1:10:41]
open space application.
[1:10:43]
That one was a tongue twister.
[1:10:45]
Oh, Brian.
[1:10:47]
Sorry, you sat down. Oh, no, Chris.
[1:10:49]
Excuse me, Chris is here.
[1:10:51]
Chris was
[1:10:52]
on a couch.
[1:10:56]
Thanks, Chris.
[1:10:57]
>> Thank you. Thanks for having us. We're
[1:10:59]
excited again
[1:11:01]
to bring another couple of CO sec
[1:11:05]
recommendations of approval to the
[1:11:08]
council
[1:11:09]
tonight.
[1:11:11]
And so the first project and and for
[1:11:14]
both projects
[1:11:15]
I believe we have land owner
[1:11:16]
representation
[1:11:18]
here tonight. So if you have questions
[1:11:20]
feel free to ask them if any questions
[1:11:24]
you may have. So the first one is called
[1:11:27]
the Birch Canyon weed and seed co-op
[1:11:30]
project. This is a small relatively
[1:11:34]
small property
[1:11:37]
but it's uh
[1:11:40]
size
[1:11:42]
is significantly I'm sorry the
[1:11:45]
significance of it is is much larger
[1:11:48]
than just the size of the property.
[1:11:50]
Um
[1:11:51]
it happens to border the north end of
[1:11:54]
the recently acquired Cash County
[1:11:58]
parcel
[1:12:00]
project known as the shoot property and
[1:12:02]
so this project would abut um
[1:12:06]
bond funded open space that the county
[1:12:08]
council
[1:12:09]
utilized
[1:12:11]
um
[1:12:11]
>> Can you point which direction that bond
[1:12:13]
funded
[1:12:14]
>> south.
[1:12:15]
>> On that.
[1:12:17]
map yep.
[1:12:19]
>> Go down.
[1:12:20]
>> It's down there.
[1:12:20]
>> Yeah.
[1:12:21]
>> It's straight at the bottom.
[1:12:22]
>> Oh I know which side it's on.
[1:12:23]
>> Straight bottom I'm sorry. We need
[1:12:24]
>> Yeah.
[1:12:25]
>> I know which side it's
[1:12:27]
I know on that which way is it?
[1:12:28]
>> So it'd be at the top end of the county
[1:12:29]
parcel.
[1:12:30]
>> Okay got you.
[1:12:32]
>> And it happens to um
[1:12:34]
involve
[1:12:36]
Birch Canyon Road for those of you
[1:12:38]
familiar with that area. It's very
[1:12:40]
popular access for
[1:12:43]
hikers, bikers and other recreationists
[1:12:46]
in addition to a handful of land owners
[1:12:48]
up in this area.
[1:12:51]
Um so as mentioned Birch Canyon Road and
[1:12:55]
Birch Creek both run through the
[1:12:57]
property as well as the a water
[1:13:00]
pipeline.
[1:13:01]
And
[1:13:02]
the landowners here are very interested
[1:13:05]
in in protecting the
[1:13:07]
native habitat that exists on the
[1:13:09]
property.
[1:13:13]
Um,
[1:13:14]
just a reminder we're we're in this
[1:13:16]
first round
[1:13:17]
of our application process
[1:13:20]
um, for this project.
[1:13:23]
And
[1:13:24]
this was is a summary of the categories
[1:13:28]
that were evaluated for the property. So
[1:13:32]
in terms of scoring for COSACH funding,
[1:13:36]
we looked at scenic vistas,
[1:13:39]
valley gateways, agricultural waterways,
[1:13:41]
wildlife habitat, public access access
[1:13:44]
and any other distinguishing factors to
[1:13:47]
come up with
[1:13:49]
the score out of a total of 100 points.
[1:13:54]
This project received 49,
[1:13:57]
which is still a pretty good scoring.
[1:14:00]
Just for reference, we haven't had a
[1:14:03]
of the 20 projects that have come before
[1:14:06]
you, I don't think we've had one score
[1:14:08]
more than 76
[1:14:10]
to give you an idea.
[1:14:13]
So it's not
[1:14:15]
a below a certain grade fails or
[1:14:17]
anything like that.
[1:14:19]
This just shows that there is broad
[1:14:21]
benefits
[1:14:23]
for for the project overall.
[1:14:29]
Um, in terms of protecting scenic
[1:14:32]
vistas, the COSACH scored it a 5.7 out
[1:14:35]
of 15.
[1:14:36]
It is a very scenic property. However,
[1:14:38]
it's not along
[1:14:40]
a highway major highway that sort of
[1:14:42]
thing.
[1:14:43]
Um, and can't really be seen from the
[1:14:46]
valley floor.
[1:14:48]
So, really those who are going to
[1:14:50]
experience are going to be
[1:14:52]
up Birch Canyon or perhaps on some of
[1:14:56]
the adjacent properties.
[1:15:00]
Uh it's not near a Valley Gateway, so
[1:15:02]
got a fairly low score for for that.
[1:15:08]
Um it's not farmland, so again a low
[1:15:11]
score for farmland. However,
[1:15:15]
where it tends to stand out is in for
[1:15:19]
maintaining waterways. As mentioned,
[1:15:21]
Birch Creek flows through the property
[1:15:24]
and um the landowners have worked for
[1:15:26]
many years to
[1:15:28]
um remove invasive species on the on the
[1:15:31]
property and out of the riparian area.
[1:15:35]
It's also really good wildlife habitat,
[1:15:38]
so it got nearly 12 out of 15 points for
[1:15:41]
that. Um there's fair amount of nesting
[1:15:43]
that that goes on in some of the larger
[1:15:45]
trees on the property, and of course,
[1:15:48]
the usual wildlife that we would see up
[1:15:50]
in the canyons frequent this um parcel.
[1:15:56]
And um
[1:15:58]
the existing
[1:16:01]
uh Birch Canyon Road is a very popular
[1:16:03]
trail
[1:16:05]
uh access leading to a trailhead um
[1:16:09]
or former trailhead, I suppose, uh that
[1:16:12]
accesses Forest Service property or
[1:16:14]
public land
[1:16:15]
um up the road from this property.
[1:16:18]
Um so, folks are already
[1:16:20]
traveling through the property on the
[1:16:22]
county road and are able to benefit from the view um of the property and and
[1:16:29]
the other um resources that come with
[1:16:32]
the property.
[1:16:34]
Yes, sir. George.
[1:16:35]
>> Chris, I I just want to make
[1:16:37]
uh
[1:16:38]
have a little understanding of what the
[1:16:39]
situation is up there. I'm I'm familiar
[1:16:42]
with the roadway. I've been up there. Is the roadway now
[1:16:49]
in some way restricted from bikes?
[1:16:53]
>> It's not.
[1:16:54]
So,
[1:16:55]
>> um
[1:16:56]
and I guess there's motorcycles, trail
[1:16:59]
bikes, there's electric bikes, and so
[1:17:02]
on.
[1:17:03]
>> Yeah. And vehicles, cars, trucks.
[1:17:05]
>> Right.
[1:17:06]
>> Yes.
[1:17:06]
>> Um
[1:17:07]
as I understood it, the owners of the
[1:17:10]
property are proposing
[1:17:13]
to close it? They
[1:17:15]
>> No, no, no. Not to close it. So, um
[1:17:17]
yeah, sorry if that there's a
[1:17:19]
misunderstanding there.
[1:17:20]
>> They say there for bikers would be a
[1:17:23]
disturbance. What what
[1:17:24]
>> Correct. For
[1:17:26]
uh
[1:17:27]
if you were to ask them for developing
[1:17:30]
trails, other trails through the
[1:17:32]
property, not the county road, but other
[1:17:35]
trails through the property. Say to
[1:17:36]
connect to the county roads.
[1:17:39]
Um and the landowners are here, and they
[1:17:41]
can speak to it, but they just recognize
[1:17:44]
that
[1:17:44]
um bicycles bring a level of disturbance
[1:17:47]
that they would prefer to avoid.
[1:17:49]
>> Yeah, and I think frankly the
[1:17:53]
area would be better non-motorized.
[1:17:56]
>> Yes.
[1:17:56]
>> If we're something, but I want to make
[1:17:59]
it clear if we're making that decision
[1:18:01]
or not. By by approving this, we're
[1:18:03]
really not changing whatever the road
[1:18:06]
rights are now. Is that correct?
[1:18:08]
>> That is correct.
[1:18:09]
>> Okay.
[1:18:10]
>> That is correct. And I think
[1:18:12]
>> I don't want them changed. I just say
[1:18:14]
that we're this isn't changing at this
[1:18:16]
point.
[1:18:17]
>> That's correct. And um and and of course
[1:18:19]
all of that would be worked out at a
[1:18:21]
later time, but at least as far as the
[1:18:23]
landowner has explained to us,
[1:18:26]
um they're open to public access. They
[1:18:28]
want people to see the property and view
[1:18:32]
the property,
[1:18:33]
um but would prefer that it's by foot,
[1:18:36]
for
[1:18:38]
Sure. Yeah.
[1:18:40]
Okay.
[1:18:42]
You'll have to come You'll have to
[1:18:43]
>> Sir, do you mind coming and speaking in
[1:18:45]
the microphone and stating your name?
[1:18:47]
No, you're
[1:18:49]
>> Uh the main road is a county road and
[1:18:53]
right now it supports about 19 different
[1:18:56]
sets of users. Some go slow, horses,
[1:19:00]
families, walkers. Some go fast.
[1:19:03]
Um it will get more congested, but I
[1:19:07]
because the road goes through my our
[1:19:09]
land, we weren't talking about that road at
[1:19:12]
all.
[1:19:13]
>> Okay. That's all I wanted.
[1:19:15]
>> And sir, will you state your name just
[1:19:17]
for the record? No, you're fine.
[1:19:19]
>> K.O. Robertson and this is Beth
[1:19:20]
Callender, my wife.
[1:19:21]
>> Thank you.
[1:19:25]
K.O.
[1:19:26]
Um
[1:19:28]
Okay.
[1:19:30]
And then some of the distinguishing
[1:19:32]
factors, primarily, you know, just
[1:19:35]
recognizing that it's adjacent to an
[1:19:38]
existing bond purchase
[1:19:40]
land and
[1:19:43]
with that provides potentially a
[1:19:45]
connection
[1:19:47]
um
[1:19:47]
to Birch Canyon from the county land.
[1:19:51]
So,
[1:19:51]
think about that and and opportunities
[1:19:53]
there. We see We see an opportunity.
[1:19:57]
Um
[1:19:58]
So, next steps would be to
[1:20:02]
um
[1:20:03]
request your uh approval for round one
[1:20:08]
um so we can move on to to round two and
[1:20:13]
uh get more specifics as far as what the
[1:20:16]
landowner would like to see in terms of
[1:20:19]
a project and project funding.
[1:20:22]
Other questions we can answer on this
[1:20:24]
one for now?
[1:20:26]
>> Another question.
[1:20:27]
This one's a little bit different than
[1:20:29]
what we've seen on the other open space
[1:20:30]
ones. So, who would be a partner in
[1:20:33]
funding on this? Give me example.
[1:20:36]
>> Um
[1:20:39]
it's going to be limited. Because it's a
[1:20:41]
small parcel, you know, just from our
[1:20:43]
work with you on the workshop,
[1:20:45]
um
[1:20:46]
there it's not going to attract in our
[1:20:49]
CS funding necessarily or Lee Ray
[1:20:52]
McAllister. They want to emphasize
[1:20:54]
agricultural land. So,
[1:20:56]
um potential
[1:20:58]
funding sources as one thing, a
[1:21:00]
potential funding source and or
[1:21:03]
um easement holder in this case could
[1:21:06]
be, for example, like the Division of
[1:21:08]
Wildlife Resources. Or as we talked, you
[1:21:11]
know, is this one of the projects that
[1:21:14]
the county could potentially be the
[1:21:16]
easement holder. Um
[1:21:19]
if if
[1:21:20]
you agree that that would be a good
[1:21:22]
thing. So.
[1:21:23]
>> Is that potentially a
[1:21:25]
municipality?
[1:21:26]
>> Could be a municipality, could be a
[1:21:28]
nonprofit organization, also. So, there
[1:21:31]
are other options. It's just not likely
[1:21:33]
to attract much in the way of funding.
[1:21:36]
And And so, I think
[1:21:39]
um
[1:21:40]
that's really
[1:21:41]
the kinds of things that we'll get in
[1:21:43]
dig into detail on in round two.
[1:21:45]
Get those things figured out.
[1:21:46]
>> I would
[1:21:47]
tell you that I think there's
[1:21:49]
significant support in Smithfield City
[1:21:53]
for this project. This is This is a
[1:21:55]
really beautiful canyon.
[1:21:59]
I recognize, you know, if the landowner
[1:22:01]
is not putting a restriction on the
[1:22:02]
county road, but we may choose to do
[1:22:04]
that. And And how to enhance this area.
[1:22:09]
But it in connection with our shoot
[1:22:12]
property, this is This is a real
[1:22:14]
important parcel.
[1:22:17]
And I would think that we would want to
[1:22:19]
do everything to encourage this
[1:22:22]
um
[1:22:23]
project.
[1:22:25]
Does the I recognize years ago when we
[1:22:28]
were working on this is establishing a
[1:22:32]
county road. Smithfield City was vitally
[1:22:35]
interested, but it wasn't
[1:22:38]
it was there was still an open
[1:22:40]
discussion about what kind of use ought
[1:22:42]
to be, but citizens enjoy walking up
[1:22:46]
Birch Canyon.
[1:22:49]
Just a lovely place.
[1:22:53]
» Yeah.
[1:22:54]
I think this is one of those unique
[1:22:55]
projects, right? That we were talking
[1:22:57]
about earlier. It's not going to fit the
[1:22:59]
mold of most of the other projects that
[1:23:01]
we're going to bring to you. So,
[1:23:03]
uh we may we may need to be creative. I know that the landowners have
[1:23:07]
expressed, you know, that the the financials of it is not the driving
[1:23:13]
factor for them. They just really want
[1:23:15]
to see this
[1:23:17]
project conserved or this land
[1:23:19]
conserved.
[1:23:21]
>> Yeah. It mentions that the Bonneville
[1:23:23]
Shoreline
[1:23:25]
Trail. Does it Does it actually put it
[1:23:29]
propose it? Is it going to traverse
[1:23:31]
this property or is it near this
[1:23:33]
property?
[1:23:34]
>> Nearby. I think there's potential
[1:23:36]
connections in the that could be made in
[1:23:38]
the future to the Bonneville Shoreline
[1:23:41]
Trail, but it's not not necessarily on
[1:23:43]
this property.
[1:23:44]
>> does not restrict
[1:23:45]
>> That's right.
[1:23:46]
>> That you know, bicycles are allowed on
[1:23:48]
that.
[1:23:49]
>> True.
[1:23:49]
>> So.
[1:23:50]
>> That's right.
[1:23:50]
>> That That might be an issue then.
[1:23:53]
>> Yeah. But, you know, you can as the landowner on your
[1:23:58]
property, you can
[1:24:01]
allocate uh
[1:24:03]
an easement or a trail for Bonneville
[1:24:06]
Shoreline Trail for all the uses. You
[1:24:07]
could also have a trail that tiers off
[1:24:10]
of that that maybe comes into this
[1:24:13]
canyon that is more restrictive.
[1:24:16]
So, I think that is possible.
[1:24:24]
Other questions I can help answer or
[1:24:26]
>> Thank you.
[1:24:27]
>> Do you want to hear from the landowners?
[1:24:29]
>> I I would I would move that we go ahead
[1:24:32]
and
[1:24:33]
allow this to move on and we we pass I
[1:24:37]
guess phase one.
[1:24:38]
>> Is this an ordinance?
[1:24:39]
>> We have to spend this ordinance?
[1:24:41]
>> I don't know.
[1:24:42]
>> It's resolution we don't have
[1:24:43]
>> Sorry.
[1:24:44]
>> And so
[1:24:46]
we go ahead and pass this and send it on
[1:24:48]
to continue this process and
[1:24:53]
think it's going to it's going to be a
[1:24:55]
evolution as we go because it is
[1:24:58]
a unique
[1:24:59]
five and a half acre smaller parcel.
[1:25:01]
We'll have to learn as we go.
[1:25:03]
>> I second that motion.
[1:25:05]
>> Okay, thank you. We have a motion on the floor. Any further
[1:25:09]
discussion?
[1:25:11]
Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in
[1:25:12]
favor say I.
[1:25:13]
>> I.
[1:25:14]
>> Thank you. It passes.
[1:25:16]
Um Council, I ask for your forgiveness.
[1:25:19]
I inadvertently skipped
[1:25:22]
on our 8C.
[1:25:25]
Um so while Chris is here, we'll go
[1:25:28]
ahead if if you'll allow we'll go ahead
[1:25:29]
and move on with E and circle back to C
[1:25:32]
if that's okay.
[1:25:34]
While Chris is at the podium, is that
[1:25:35]
okay?
[1:25:36]
>> Matt's thinking about Whiskey Lane
[1:25:37]
anyhow.
[1:25:38]
>> I know. So excuse me, we will get back
[1:25:40]
to C but let's go ahead and let Chris if
[1:25:43]
that's okay with the Council.
[1:25:44]
>> Okay.
[1:25:45]
Thank you, Chris.
[1:25:47]
>> Thank you. Okay.
[1:25:48]
>> I was feeling sorry for Matt. I was
[1:25:49]
thinking
[1:25:51]
>> Here's a Here's another great project
[1:25:55]
for
[1:25:57]
your consideration that we're bringing
[1:25:58]
to you. This is called the Willow Ranch
[1:26:01]
project and again we have the landowners
[1:26:04]
are here this evening
[1:26:06]
should we have any questions.
[1:26:08]
And they are partnering with the Utah
[1:26:10]
Agricultural Land Trust on this project.
[1:26:14]
And so we have a a over 100 acres,
[1:26:17]
um, on two parcels.
[1:26:20]
And one thing you may not be able to see
[1:26:22]
it there, but, um, the road along the
[1:26:25]
southeast portion of, uh, the parcel on
[1:26:29]
the east, there is called Center Street.
[1:26:33]
>> We got Whiskey Lane and Center Street.
[1:26:35]
>> That is the Center Street that comes all
[1:26:37]
the way to downtown Logging.
[1:26:39]
>> Oh, Center.
[1:26:40]
>> Center Street. I thought you said
[1:26:41]
Sinner.
[1:26:42]
>> [laughter]
[1:26:44]
» Don't tell her about Cannibal Road.
[1:26:47]
>> [laughter]
[1:26:49]
>> Yeah, then we have Cannibal Road.
[1:26:50]
>> Sinner Street.
[1:26:51]
>> So, Center Street,
[1:26:53]
um,
[1:26:54]
and so, one of the unique things I
[1:26:56]
discovered about this project, if you're
[1:26:59]
in downtown Logging and you're standing
[1:27:01]
under the arch on Center Street and you
[1:27:04]
look due west, this is part of the
[1:27:07]
landscape that is framed by
[1:27:09]
[clears throat] the tree-lined street
[1:27:11]
down Center Street that you see in the
[1:27:13]
background.
[1:27:14]
Um, so, it's pretty
[1:27:17]
important, you know, from a number of
[1:27:20]
vistas across the county, even though
[1:27:22]
it's not on a highway.
[1:27:24]
Um,
[1:27:26]
the farm's been in the family for over
[1:27:28]
150 years, has a intermittent stream
[1:27:32]
that flows through,
[1:27:34]
um, the property and, uh, the landowners
[1:27:37]
are actively working on restoring,
[1:27:40]
um,
[1:27:41]
the property there.
[1:27:44]
It's also, uh, that
[1:27:47]
southwest corner of the upper parcel
[1:27:51]
there
[1:27:52]
touches, uh, US Forest Service land.
[1:27:55]
And so, it does connect
[1:27:58]
to public land.
[1:28:02]
Um, similar to the previous projects
[1:28:03]
we've brought to you recently, we're in
[1:28:05]
the first round here and and looking for
[1:28:08]
round one approval from the council. Um,
[1:28:11]
I won't go over the scoring process, but
[1:28:14]
I'll just jump right cut right to the
[1:28:16]
chase.
[1:28:18]
Um,
[1:28:19]
this project scored 58 out of 100, uh,
[1:28:23]
which is a great score, um, scoring
[1:28:26]
similar to a couple of the other
[1:28:27]
projects we've brought to you recently
[1:28:29]
on that West Gateway area. Those prop-
[1:28:32]
properties and projects are north of of
[1:28:35]
this one, but not very far north. So,
[1:28:38]
um, they're all part of that same
[1:28:39]
landscape
[1:28:41]
if you're Highway heading, uh, west and
[1:28:45]
you're looking at the Wellsville
[1:28:47]
Mountain, this project, the Hat J Ranch
[1:28:49]
and the Poulsen family
[1:28:51]
uh, farm, they're all viewable from
[1:28:55]
um,
[1:28:56]
Valley View Highway.
[1:29:00]
Uh, protect scenic vistas, so this is,
[1:29:02]
as mentioned, a pretty scenic parcel,
[1:29:05]
um, got eight out of 15,
[1:29:07]
uh, score.
[1:29:10]
Uh, it is near a valley gateway, though
[1:29:13]
it's not along it, so it did garner some
[1:29:15]
points, um, because it can be viewed
[1:29:18]
from from the gateway and Highway 30,
[1:29:20]
which is only about a mile and a half
[1:29:23]
away.
[1:29:26]
It is primarily agricultural land, so it
[1:29:29]
got a high score for agriculture, 11 out
[1:29:32]
of 15.
[1:29:34]
Um, there are
[1:29:36]
intermittent uh, stream channels through
[1:29:38]
the property and active works
[1:29:40]
by the landowners and,
[1:29:43]
um, establishing some uh,
[1:29:46]
beaver dam analogs on the property.
[1:29:51]
Wildlife habitat is, uh,
[1:29:54]
similar to the other projects we've
[1:29:56]
looked at, so
[1:29:58]
it's 10 out of 15
[1:30:00]
in this area.
[1:30:02]
And then there's moose on that land?
[1:30:04]
>> What's that?
[1:30:04]
>> There's moose on the land?
[1:30:06]
>> Yeah, they down from the forest,
[1:30:08]
actually.
[1:30:09]
>> Wow.
[1:30:10]
>> So, they have
[1:30:11]
>> has been
[1:30:11]
mother and child there a couple of
[1:30:14]
years. Sometimes we might have
[1:30:16]
We have a pond.
[1:30:18]
>> Wow.
[1:30:19]
That's cool.
[1:30:22]
» Um
[1:30:23]
the landowners are willing to consider
[1:30:27]
public access, and one of the
[1:30:28]
interesting things about it is that that
[1:30:30]
western along the western boundary there
[1:30:32]
is a prescriptive easement to allow
[1:30:34]
access to the Forest Service. So,
[1:30:37]
there's um
[1:30:38]
ranchers that use that as an access if
[1:30:40]
they're bringing their livestock um
[1:30:43]
through the area to the adjacent parcels
[1:30:45]
or onto Forest Service property.
[1:30:47]
Um
[1:30:48]
and it doesn't have a great connection to to a public road,
[1:30:54]
necessarily, but in the future um as
[1:30:58]
this part of the valley continues to
[1:31:00]
grow and um
[1:31:03]
develop, then there could be an
[1:31:06]
opportunity to make that connection to
[1:31:08]
the property
[1:31:09]
via public access.
[1:31:13]
And then lastly, distinguishing factors,
[1:31:16]
um just just a few items,
[1:31:20]
uh the importance of the open space,
[1:31:22]
it's sort of the backdrop um to some
[1:31:24]
important views in the valley, and it's
[1:31:27]
near the valley gateway.
[1:31:32]
Okay, so similarly, um
[1:31:34]
we'd like to
[1:31:36]
seek your round one approval so that uh
[1:31:39]
we can work with the landowners and the
[1:31:41]
Agricultural Land Trust to um bring uh
[1:31:46]
the project specifics to round two and learn more about the project and its
[1:31:52]
potential.
[1:31:54]
Any questions I can help answer or
[1:31:58]
>> I would move
[1:32:00]
Pass resolution 2026-20
[1:32:03]
for the Willow Ranch open space
[1:32:05]
application and moving it on to
[1:32:07]
uh that providing round one approval.
[1:32:10]
>> Second.
[1:32:11]
>> Okay, thank you. Any discussion? All
[1:32:14]
those in favor say I.
[1:32:15]
>> I.
[1:32:16]
>> Okay, thank you Chris and thank you.
[1:32:19]
for coming.
[1:32:22]
Okay.
[1:32:24]
We're going to circle back
[1:32:26]
to item C.
[1:32:28]
Thank you Matt.
[1:32:31]
Resolution 2026-17.
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The opening and amending the
[1:32:39]
Cash County 2026 budget. May we
[1:32:41]
questions for our auditor?
[1:32:47]
» From our co-creations meeting it was
[1:32:49]
fun to see something that's
[1:32:51]
not taking money out.
[1:32:54]
>> Yeah.
[1:32:55]
>> So.
[1:32:56]
>> Thank you to all your work you've done.
[1:32:59]
>> This is considered a special
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>> And I just need to say
[1:33:02]
uh council chair that
[1:33:05]
my staff
[1:33:08]
» Please pass along our appreciation.
[1:33:11]
>> It So is this a special budget opening
[1:33:14]
then rather than our
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>> It is not. It is the
[1:33:16]
>> This is our quarterly and this is the
[1:33:17]
only item?
[1:33:19]
>> Yes.
[1:33:20]
>> Holy moly.
[1:33:21]
>> 40 items.
[1:33:22]
>> There's a lot of them. Did you see
[1:33:23]
>> 40 items in there.
[1:33:24]
>> I know.
[1:33:24]
>> 19 pages. 20
[1:33:26]
>> It the one big one that you talked about
[1:33:29]
with the wraps and everything.
[1:33:31]
>> Yes, uh the fact that the council
[1:33:33]
um to use the word I used in preparation
[1:33:35]
so adroitly addressed the wraps tax with
[1:33:38]
such um
[1:33:39]
alacrity allows us to
[1:33:42]
put the wraps funding into this so we
[1:33:43]
don't need to have a special wraps
[1:33:45]
opening here in a couple of weeks.
[1:33:58]
Uh while you're thinking uh I note
[1:34:00]
there's a big airport capital project in
[1:34:03]
this, but the FAA is paying for 95% of
[1:34:06]
it.
[1:34:07]
So, the airport already has the funds
[1:34:11]
for the remainder. So, there's no county money involved in that
[1:34:15]
particular
[1:34:16]
endeavor.
[1:34:19]
>> Is that project been solidified by FAA?
[1:34:22]
Is it a for sure? Okay.
[1:34:28]
» So, what's the total increase?
[1:34:31]
>> 170,000.
[1:34:32]
>> The total
[1:34:33]
>> line.
[1:34:34]
>> The total increase across every fund
[1:34:38]
is is $6.3 million.
[1:34:41]
Now, of that $6.3 million a million of
[1:34:44]
that is is revenue from other
[1:34:46]
governments, federal and state, and
[1:34:50]
pretty much the rest of it is coming
[1:34:51]
from RAP funding.
[1:34:54]
So, in fact, it's
[1:34:56]
because we have RAP funding now, we are
[1:34:59]
able to go back and decrease
[1:35:02]
the amount of of of funds that we were
[1:35:05]
going to expend from the general fund.
[1:35:07]
And so, we're actually putting
[1:35:09]
177,000
[1:35:12]
back into the general fund.
[1:35:15]
>> That's exciting.
[1:35:17]
>> So, the net amount
[1:35:20]
Do you have a Not just an estimate's
[1:35:22]
good.
[1:35:24]
>> Well, it it will increase the the the total
[1:35:27]
expenditures from $133 million
[1:35:31]
countywide to $140 million.
[1:35:37]
» Even taking into consideration all these
[1:35:40]
variables you mentioned.
[1:35:42]
>> Most of that is RAP funding. RAP funding
[1:35:45]
is $5.1 million. So, of the of the $6.3
[1:35:48]
million
[1:35:49]
in expenditures, RAP funding is is
[1:35:52]
roughly 5.1 million of that, and then
[1:35:55]
we've got federal government coming in
[1:35:57]
for
[1:35:58]
about a million.
[1:36:03]
» Okay.
[1:36:04]
They're posted?
[1:36:06]
>> I will make a motion on resolution
[1:36:07]
2026-20
[1:36:09]
providing round one approval. No.
[1:36:11]
>> That's 17.
[1:36:12]
>> 17.
[1:36:12]
>> Got me mixed up on the C.
[1:36:14]
>> It's C. I'm sorry.
[1:36:16]
>> I was all excited we down the page.
[1:36:18]
All right. Resolution 2026-17
[1:36:21]
opening and amending the Cache County
[1:36:23]
2026 budget third amendment. I say we
[1:36:25]
approve it.
[1:36:28]
» Second. Any second?
[1:36:31]
>> I'll second that.
[1:36:33]
>> Okay.
[1:36:33]
>> Don't leave me hanging.
[1:36:34]
>> Thank you. Thank you. Further
[1:36:36]
discussion.
[1:36:37]
All those in favor say I.
[1:36:39]
>> I.
[1:36:40]
>> Thank you.
[1:36:42]
Thanks, Matt.
[1:36:43]
Pending items.
[1:36:46]
A.
[1:36:48]
Mr. Executive.
[1:36:49]
>> Okay. Um
[1:36:50]
>> [clears throat]
[1:36:52]
>> We've worked on this uh
[1:36:54]
during the April 21st meeting you
[1:36:57]
approved to have that developer come to
[1:36:59]
our road.
[1:37:01]
Uh
[1:37:02]
the developer because of that was able
[1:37:04]
to submit a subdivision application to
[1:37:07]
River Heights.
[1:37:09]
Uh
[1:37:10]
we're we're providing you an update of
[1:37:12]
what the consequence of that is.
[1:37:15]
Uh
[1:37:17]
Matt Thillitson talked to the River
[1:37:19]
Heights City,
[1:37:21]
and the council member who is in charge
[1:37:24]
of the project, and they have received a
[1:37:27]
preliminary plat for that subdivision.
[1:37:31]
Uh
[1:37:33]
Copy of the comments in the planning
[1:37:36]
commission are with this packet that I'm
[1:37:39]
going to give Anne to and add allow you
[1:37:42]
to add that to the record of this
[1:37:44]
meeting so you can review it.
[1:37:47]
Uh based upon discussions with River
[1:37:49]
Heights City staff, the next staff the
[1:37:52]
next step will be to get their plans
[1:37:56]
for the connection to our highway. We
[1:38:00]
anticipate that'll be received in
[1:38:04]
two to three [clears throat] months.
[1:38:06]
And then at that point, we'll
[1:38:09]
uh, Matt will go over it and see whether
[1:38:11]
it it meets our necessary criteria.
[1:38:15]
And if it does, we will
[1:38:18]
formally approve it and the project is
[1:38:21]
underway.
[1:38:22]
>> They can take that long on a subdivision
[1:38:24]
approval?
[1:38:24]
>> It's their task.
[1:38:26]
>> Yes, but
[1:38:27]
>> It's I I think it's
[1:38:29]
>> We don't get that long on the county.
[1:38:30]
>> they're going to be doing at the same
[1:38:32]
time, but
[1:38:33]
we don't expect to see this until about
[1:38:36]
two or three months. Is that right,
[1:38:38]
Matt?
[1:38:40]
So, that's an update.
[1:38:42]
My suggestion is that you take this
[1:38:44]
thing that's on your agenda every
[1:38:48]
two weeks and put it out three months.
[1:38:53]
Now, that's one part of highway County
[1:38:57]
Road 238. There's a couple of other
[1:39:00]
parts that you need to be aware of.
[1:39:03]
Millville
[1:39:04]
has filled in cuts
[1:39:07]
and we're talking about trying to do a
[1:39:10]
chip and seal there. We're going to be
[1:39:13]
asking Millville
[1:39:15]
to correct those uh, trenches so that we
[1:39:20]
won't have the problem that's now
[1:39:21]
occurring where the ground is sinking.
[1:39:25]
Providence
[1:39:27]
has asked us to work with them in
[1:39:30]
getting school crossings done because
[1:39:33]
they're changing what was a middle
[1:39:35]
school to an elementary school, so they
[1:39:37]
want additional crossing. My
[1:39:40]
understanding is Providence
[1:39:42]
has ordered those and is prepared to pay
[1:39:45]
for them, but we're going to have to
[1:39:46]
have Matt review those to make sure they
[1:39:49]
meet our standards.
[1:39:51]
Okay, those are the things that are
[1:39:53]
happening with the highway.
[1:39:56]
Any questions?
[1:39:59]
>> This is job security for Matt, this
[1:40:01]
flipping thing here.
[1:40:03]
>> [laughter]
[1:40:04]
>> Yes, I think for two or three months
[1:40:06]
he's safe.
[1:40:11]
» We could give it to him tonight.
[1:40:12]
>> I would appreciate the report if you
[1:40:17]
Add that Excuse me, here's the better
[1:40:19]
copy. Let's add that one
[1:40:21]
>> And that one?
[1:40:22]
>> to the agenda so that you have it.
[1:40:26]
>> We got to give us a written statement
[1:40:28]
yes, will you?
[1:40:31]
» Yeah, I can do that.
[1:40:33]
>> Yeah, scan it into the minutes.
[1:40:35]
>> Yeah.
[1:40:36]
>> But it can be put into
[1:40:38]
this record that it was just received.
[1:40:41]
>> Mander?
[1:40:41]
>> Uh according to state law, one of the
[1:40:44]
members of the county legislative body
[1:40:45]
has to
[1:40:46]
>> Receive it.
[1:40:47]
>> has to
[1:40:48]
essentially tell me to put this in the
[1:40:49]
record. Though I appreciate it, it has
[1:40:52]
to be one of you all to
[1:40:53]
>> Will you put that in the record, please?
[1:40:55]
Thanks, Andrew.
[1:40:57]
Thank you.
[1:40:58]
And
[1:41:00]
that's everything for that?
[1:41:02]
>> Yes. Unless you have any questions.
[1:41:05]
>> I Matt, you want to
[1:41:07]
We make your life better?
[1:41:09]
>> Just give it to him tonight.
[1:41:10]
>> Give it to him tonight, be that.
[1:41:14]
And they get to do all that.
[1:41:15]
>> I know we're trying to We're trying to
[1:41:17]
help out, but sometimes helping out
[1:41:23]
it just keeps it can cost you a lot of
[1:41:25]
money and that rather than say, "Merry
[1:41:27]
Christmas."
[1:41:28]
>> this.
[1:41:29]
>> We got to get our executive group to
[1:41:30]
talk to Providence. I mean,
[1:41:32]
aren't they hailing from Providence
[1:41:34]
here?
[1:41:35]
>> Yeah.
[1:41:37]
>> I'm just, you know, rubbing your nose in
[1:41:39]
it for a bit.
[1:41:40]
>> Or maybe he could withhold his property
[1:41:42]
taxes from Maybe he could withhold his
[1:41:44]
property taxes from them.
[1:41:46]
>> Just maybe.
[1:41:47]
>> Okay, ordinance 2026-21
[1:41:49]
amending chapter 17.14 on the resort
[1:41:52]
recreation RR zone.
[1:41:56]
Brian Abbott
[1:41:57]
>> Our clerk.
[1:41:59]
>> RR
[1:42:00]
>> We need to first one.
[1:42:07]
» We've gone over this before. Do you have
[1:42:09]
any questions? You want me to go through
[1:42:10]
the whole thing again?
[1:42:12]
>> Oh, please.
[1:42:13]
>> [laughter]
[1:42:15]
>> Please everything.
[1:42:15]
>> Um
[1:42:16]
Angie and I did meet with Sandy and
[1:42:18]
Andrews the other day.
[1:42:20]
Kind of went over any of concerns she
[1:42:23]
had. I thought that was a good meeting
[1:42:25]
and we came to a pretty good
[1:42:26]
understanding.
[1:42:27]
Um
[1:42:29]
I don't know if we want to wait till she
[1:42:30]
gets back or go for it.
[1:42:38]
» Was there anything in that meeting
[1:42:40]
different than what the planning and
[1:42:41]
zoning had done?
[1:42:42]
Talked about?
[1:42:43]
>> Uh we updated a few things. We revised
[1:42:46]
it a few things that they had concerns
[1:42:48]
about. Um we can go over those if you
[1:42:52]
would like.
[1:42:54]
Um
[1:42:57]
Which one are you on there? Yeah, right
[1:42:59]
there.
[1:42:59]
>> If you change it, has it got to go back
[1:43:01]
to planning and zoning?
[1:43:02]
>> Yeah.
[1:43:06]
» I would think it would have to if we're
[1:43:07]
changing it.
[1:43:08]
>> Yeah.
[1:43:08]
>> Yep.
[1:43:10]
>> They're the land use authority. They're the land use.
[1:43:12]
>> If we change it or it has been changes,
[1:43:15]
it's got to hit the P&Z again.
[1:43:16]
>> Um yeah, we just cleaned up the format a
[1:43:18]
little.
[1:43:20]
Um
[1:43:20]
it was ABCD, now it's A 1 2 B. So
[1:43:25]
>> Formatting?
[1:43:27]
>> If we need to take it back to the
[1:43:28]
>> Substantive changes are
[1:43:30]
>> Pardon?
[1:43:30]
>> Substantive substantive changes are
[1:43:33]
>> Yeah, we just kind of cleaned up the
[1:43:35]
format and added some numbers.
[1:43:40]
» So, did we have a question on the land
[1:43:42]
use authority, who that was? Did that
[1:43:45]
get clarified in there?
[1:43:46]
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:43:48]
>> Yeah, it got clarified that here and
[1:43:50]
there, so.
[1:43:55]
» What do you want to do? Do you want to
[1:43:56]
take action tonight?
[1:43:59]
Do you want to take action?
[1:44:00]
>> It's going to start feeling like the
[1:44:01]
road one if we don't.
[1:44:02]
>> It's perpetually beyond
[1:44:04]
>> [laughter]
[1:44:05]
>> We just
[1:44:06]
keep rolling forward.
[1:44:07]
>> So, you're saying there's there's no
[1:44:09]
wording or anything different, it's just
[1:44:11]
the layout?
[1:44:14]
» Still though.
[1:44:19]
» Dean, is P&Z the land use or what?
[1:44:21]
>> not substantive, but it's just
[1:44:23]
formatting, then it doesn't need to go
[1:44:25]
back to them.
[1:44:25]
>> Okay.
[1:44:27]
>> Yeah, the
[1:44:28]
uh the original the one from May is on
[1:44:31]
there.
[1:44:31]
Um all the same except the format of it.
[1:44:40]
» Then I
[1:44:41]
I'm ready to make a motion. I like to
[1:44:43]
follow the planning and zoning, so.
[1:44:47]
Um ordinance 2026-21
[1:44:50]
amending amending chapter 17.14 on the
[1:44:53]
resort recreation RR zone, I say we
[1:44:56]
approve.
[1:44:59]
» So, second the motion.
[1:45:03]
» I like people hanging me out this night,
[1:45:05]
so.
[1:45:09]
It's like I'm dying.
[1:45:11]
>> Yeah.
[1:45:15]
Three, two,
[1:45:16]
>> One, done.
[1:45:18]
>> I'll second that.
[1:45:19]
>> Okay.
[1:45:20]
Still alive. Okay, discussion. It seems
[1:45:23]
we need some discussion on the motion on
[1:45:25]
the
[1:45:25]
>> Yeah, know, as I it, it's there was
[1:45:28]
It isn't anything that's confusing, but
[1:45:30]
it's just
[1:45:33]
There's just some huge There's no
[1:45:35]
concept.
[1:45:36]
>> huge concept
[1:45:37]
>> Yeah, or uh
[1:45:38]
I don't know. Impacts that that could
[1:45:41]
that occur that Yeah, we just can't walk
[1:45:43]
away from everything up there.
[1:45:46]
>> It's a lot of
[1:45:48]
>> tax dollar lot. And and we are we're
[1:45:49]
covering the base, but it's I just don't
[1:45:51]
want to just
[1:45:52]
kind of just give up give the farm
[1:45:54]
because
[1:45:55]
They're the They're the red-headed
[1:45:56]
stepchild kind of thing.
[1:45:57]
>> We'll always know what's going on up
[1:45:59]
there.
[1:45:59]
>> Yeah, we've got to. It's a
[1:46:01]
So, anyway, I'm still still second that.
[1:46:06]
» My my concerns are just
[1:46:09]
as we're changing it from the
[1:46:11]
development agreement
[1:46:14]
to just abiding by the master plan.
[1:46:17]
I just operationally I just haven't been
[1:46:19]
able to wrap my head around it fully
[1:46:20]
about how we're going to make sure we do
[1:46:22]
that right.
[1:46:22]
>> There is an email that was sent to you
[1:46:24]
today that might give you some insight.
[1:46:27]
>> Yeah, and I haven't seen that yet today.
[1:46:28]
>> came, so.
[1:46:29]
>> Olga
[1:46:30]
Mariasina
[1:46:33]
>> Yeah.
[1:46:34]
Sorry.
[1:46:35]
And then also something from Mr. Webb
[1:46:37]
about what we're talking about up there,
[1:46:39]
too.
[1:46:43]
» And and their master plan
[1:46:45]
um
[1:46:46]
is way more involved than even our code.
[1:46:48]
>> Right, yeah. But
[1:46:49]
just ensuring we enforce or follow
[1:46:53]
you know
[1:46:54]
Yeah, but there's
[1:46:55]
>> master plan and all we have to ensure
[1:46:56]
that it's abided by.
[1:46:58]
>> Sure.
[1:47:00]
» Thank you, Kurt.
[1:47:02]
>> Questions?
[1:47:04]
Particular ones?
[1:47:07]
He and I had a discussion today on this
[1:47:10]
letter, and I went over and I encourage
[1:47:13]
you guys all to look at it and go over
[1:47:14]
it, too, but
[1:47:16]
from what Kurt's put into it, it seems
[1:47:19]
that
[1:47:21]
my concerns were is
[1:47:25]
everybody kept saying the county was
[1:47:26]
going to get all this money and
[1:47:27]
everything else. I don't think we are,
[1:47:30]
but I think we're not going to be
[1:47:31]
spending money and everything there,
[1:47:33]
too. So,
[1:47:35]
net net on revenue taking costs, right?
[1:47:38]
>> Yes, every service that we have to have them
[1:47:42]
do for us,
[1:47:43]
we have arranged for them to do it for
[1:47:45]
no more than we pay or to have them do
[1:47:47]
it
[1:47:49]
by expanding their fire district, for
[1:47:51]
example, and taking over sewer and water
[1:47:54]
by the expansion of the their district
[1:47:55]
up there that does that. And
[1:47:58]
fees, we've got
[1:48:01]
currently, there are
[1:48:03]
uh
[1:48:03]
interlocal agreements that are being
[1:48:05]
written for your approval
[1:48:07]
that that that talk about these
[1:48:09]
standards that you're that you're
[1:48:11]
passing now.
[1:48:12]
So, you've got
[1:48:15]
We rely heavily, of course, on our
[1:48:18]
development services people to review
[1:48:19]
this What is it? 1,300 pages,
[1:48:21]
approximately?
[1:48:23]
Those design standards are more strict
[1:48:26]
than either one of the county's codes.
[1:48:29]
And so, they've agreed to abide by them.
[1:48:31]
We've agreed to abide by them. And we
[1:48:34]
will keep updates as far as what they're
[1:48:35]
doing, but we don't have to approve
[1:48:37]
their approve them as long as they are
[1:48:39]
in compliance with what we've both
[1:48:41]
agreed to.
[1:48:44]
>> I think the other thing to point out is
[1:48:45]
the sewer and water, they take care of
[1:48:47]
it. The fire, they take care of it.
[1:48:51]
>> So, we're involved from the assessor and
[1:48:54]
>> Well, the assessor and the recorder.
[1:48:55]
>> Recorder.
[1:48:56]
>> And the
[1:48:58]
uh
[1:48:59]
the treasurer, of course.
[1:49:00]
>> When you say they take care of it,
[1:49:02]
that's by an- they're annexing into
[1:49:04]
their special services district. Yeah?
[1:49:06]
>> Okay.
[1:49:06]
>> Pardon me?
[1:49:07]
>> He said by them taking care of it, it's
[1:49:09]
they're annexing into their special
[1:49:10]
services districts.
[1:49:13]
>> Yes, fire is doing that and uh so is
[1:49:15]
sewer and water.
[1:49:16]
>> sewer and water?
[1:49:17]
has already done it. The
[1:49:18]
process for fire is in process.
[1:49:21]
It's happening.
[1:49:22]
>> Kurt, why don't you explain what our
[1:49:25]
arrangement is with respect to
[1:49:27]
education, recognizing that education is
[1:49:30]
about 60, 65%
[1:49:34]
of our tax bill?
[1:49:36]
>> So, Cache County School District will
[1:49:38]
get to keep the normal Cache County
[1:49:40]
School District
[1:49:41]
portion of the taxes.
[1:49:43]
And then
[1:49:44]
the
[1:49:46]
if there are school-age children that
[1:49:48]
are permanent residents that have to be
[1:49:50]
educated in the Weber County School
[1:49:52]
District, then that's done on a per
[1:49:54]
student by basis. And so, we would only
[1:49:56]
have to pay for the amount of students
[1:49:58]
that we actually have.
[1:49:59]
>> Isn't it enormously beneficial
[1:50:02]
>> to the school district? So, can we cut
[1:50:03]
their percentage of our tax base so
[1:50:06]
>> Yeah.
[1:50:06]
>> we get some back?
[1:50:07]
>> good idea.
[1:50:08]
>> Yeah.
[1:50:09]
Right. Cuz they're getting a freebie
[1:50:10]
here.
[1:50:13]
>> Only in the extent that you take
[1:50:15]
somebody
[1:50:16]
drop money from the sky. Uh
[1:50:19]
>> Well, that's what they kept telling me
[1:50:21]
when they came to planning zone.
[1:50:24]
» The total taxes we collect from this
[1:50:28]
property a year is how much, Kurt?
[1:50:31]
>> A hundred for us?
[1:50:32]
>> Yeah.
[1:50:33]
>> $25,000.
[1:50:35]
>> It's It's pretty hard to view that as
[1:50:38]
>> a windfall.
[1:50:39]
>> a significant
[1:50:41]
>> Yeah.
[1:50:41]
>> And then,
[1:50:42]
the the problem is all these services
[1:50:46]
that need to be rendered up there to
[1:50:49]
for the 25,000, if we had to provide
[1:50:52]
those services.
[1:50:55]
>> But, isn't there substantial
[1:50:57]
area that is to be developed? So, this
[1:51:00]
is set up a framework for when that
[1:51:01]
development occurs.
[1:51:03]
>> Yes. Yes, it it could be more
[1:51:05]
substantial over time, but
[1:51:08]
what what we've got here is a situation
[1:51:11]
in which
[1:51:12]
it will handle that.
[1:51:14]
>> Yeah.
[1:51:15]
>> Where
[1:51:16]
there may be some spare money at some
[1:51:18]
point there. But like it because the districts and things are not coming
[1:51:26]
through us. They're coming directly from
[1:51:28]
the homeowner.
[1:51:28]
>> Yeah.
[1:51:30]
>> The school will certainly benefit, but
[1:51:32]
the idea that there's a huge
[1:51:36]
value that's going to come to us
[1:51:37]
>> is
[1:51:39]
>> Maybe someday it will be larger than it
[1:51:41]
is now, but
[1:51:44]
>> Okay, are we going to give them taxing
[1:51:47]
authority
[1:51:48]
>> No.
[1:51:48]
>> in our county?
[1:51:50]
>> Are we going to give fire taxing
[1:51:52]
authority in our county
[1:51:53]
>> Give their fire district taxing
[1:51:55]
authority
[1:51:56]
over properties in our county.
[1:51:58]
>> That's Yes, they are.
[1:52:00]
They're allowed to expand their
[1:52:01]
boundaries.
[1:52:01]
>> Only by agreement
[1:52:04]
with the
[1:52:05]
>> with our fire district.
[1:52:06]
right? Okay.
[1:52:08]
>> Yeah. So, they don't get double taxed.
[1:52:09]
We move back and let them do that and
[1:52:11]
give the service.
[1:52:12]
>> So, that would be an approval by the
[1:52:14]
Cache County Fire District.
[1:52:16]
>> And that's those
[1:52:17]
>> So, that if they if they go to taxation
[1:52:19]
through through truth and taxation up
[1:52:21]
into this area
[1:52:22]
uh that would only bite that would have
[1:52:25]
to then go by the approval of the fire
[1:52:27]
district, the Cache County Fire
[1:52:28]
District.
[1:52:28]
>> No, once we get once we move out of
[1:52:30]
there
[1:52:31]
we see that that territory and they take
[1:52:34]
it over.
[1:52:35]
So, from then on the taxation, all of
[1:52:37]
that is done by Weber Fire as a separate
[1:52:41]
taxing entity.
[1:52:42]
>> So, it it's just a one-time
[1:52:44]
action for us.
[1:52:47]
» Let me a little background there.
[1:52:50]
>> And so does your water and sewer.
[1:52:53]
>> Yeah.
[1:52:54]
>> The reason that this is important
[1:52:56]
David is because
[1:52:58]
the original agreement was that they
[1:53:01]
would
[1:53:02]
that we would pay them what they charge
[1:53:05]
for fire.
[1:53:07]
Turns out they charge four times as much
[1:53:09]
for fire as we do.
[1:53:11]
So,
[1:53:12]
for example, of the $25,000
[1:53:15]
we collect, they wanted $19,000 of it
[1:53:18]
just to do fire.
[1:53:20]
So, in order to negotiate that, we had
[1:53:22]
to figure out could they could they
[1:53:24]
expand their territory on their for
[1:53:26]
fire?
[1:53:27]
And
[1:53:28]
went back and forth on that for a long
[1:53:30]
time and finally got good counsel from
[1:53:32]
the Utah Association of Special
[1:53:34]
Districts. They said yes, they could do
[1:53:36]
it. And
[1:53:38]
there's just been a lot of back and
[1:53:39]
forth with Weber County
[1:53:41]
uh on issues other than Development
[1:53:43]
Services. Development Services, I've
[1:53:45]
relied heavily on Development Services
[1:53:47]
to get to negotiate and to
[1:53:49]
uh
[1:53:51]
and to massage those
[1:53:53]
that uh
[1:53:54]
those design standards so that we were
[1:53:56]
protected.
[1:53:57]
So, I'll let them speak to that, but as
[1:54:00]
far as the other things,
[1:54:02]
it was my understanding that we
[1:54:04]
needed to provide these things we
[1:54:05]
couldn't provide them. Everything we can
[1:54:07]
provide, we're still providing.
[1:54:10]
Everything that we can't provide and had
[1:54:11]
to either
[1:54:13]
pay them to do
[1:54:16]
or that we had to have them expand
[1:54:18]
territory so that we didn't have to tax
[1:54:20]
it or do it,
[1:54:21]
in every one of those cases, it's not
[1:54:23]
going to cost us any more than we would
[1:54:25]
have paid ourselves.
[1:54:27]
And that was a concern all along. The
[1:54:29]
only thing that's up in the air, I'll
[1:54:30]
disclose this, is that the sheriff has
[1:54:33]
negotia- negotiated with their sheriff
[1:54:36]
to do it on an hourly basis.
[1:54:38]
Since there's hardly anybody over there
[1:54:40]
right now, he felt that that was the
[1:54:41]
most economical way to do it.
[1:54:44]
That is not quantifiable right now. So,
[1:54:49]
that that could change and we may have
[1:54:51]
to renegotiate that at some point.
[1:54:54]
But, that's the only one that that
[1:54:56]
doesn't have uh strict parameters.
[1:55:02]
» Okay.
[1:55:04]
>> I really compliment Kurt and development
[1:55:07]
services for dealing with a very complex
[1:55:09]
problem here.
[1:55:12]
» I would like to say thanks to the
[1:55:14]
executive group because this is far more
[1:55:16]
than we've got than what we had before
[1:55:18]
because we were being told we're going
[1:55:20]
to make so much money and I just kept
[1:55:22]
disagreeing with that. It just didn't work out. So, at least
[1:55:26]
we're
[1:55:27]
on a path.
[1:55:28]
>> Albeit crestfallen.
[1:55:32]
» But crestfallen that there's not as much
[1:55:34]
money as you thought.
[1:55:35]
>> a cash cow like we were told.
[1:55:37]
Thank you. If if we want to continue, I
[1:55:40]
know Sandy was was deeply
[1:55:42]
interested in this, but I don't
[1:55:45]
I think she'd be fine if we passed it
[1:55:46]
tonight, too.
[1:55:49]
» Motion and a second and we've had some
[1:55:51]
discussion. Any further
[1:55:53]
comment?
[1:55:56]
» I'd like to see it continued
[1:55:58]
personally.
[1:56:01]
» Question.
[1:56:04]
For vote.
[1:56:04]
>> Okay.
[1:56:06]
Um all those in favor, say I.
[1:56:08]
Any opposed?
[1:56:10]
>> I'll say nay.
[1:56:11]
>> We have one opposed.
[1:56:13]
Okay.
[1:56:14]
Thank you again.
[1:56:16]
Appreciation
[1:56:17]
to everyone involved.
[1:56:21]
Okay.
[1:56:22]
Other business.
[1:56:24]
Um
[1:56:25]
UIAC has their justice summit that is
[1:56:28]
on June 26th.
[1:56:31]
Do we have any council members that are
[1:56:32]
able to attend?
[1:56:34]
>> Where's that at?
[1:56:34]
>> be going and I will be going and I will
[1:56:36]
be going since we're part of the CJCC as
[1:56:38]
well and the county attorney and the
[1:56:39]
county sheriff.
[1:56:40]
>> Okay. So, we do it It is
[1:56:43]
in Salt Lake.
[1:56:46]
>> Technically Murray, but yes.
[1:56:47]
>> Murray.
[1:56:49]
So, we do have representation from the
[1:56:51]
county that will be attending and if
[1:56:54]
others are able to attend,
[1:56:56]
please communicate with Andrew.
[1:56:58]
Um
[1:57:00]
got a list of upcoming parades.
[1:57:04]
Uh we need to make sure that we are
[1:57:06]
registered for any of these parades if
[1:57:08]
we want to uh participate, so
[1:57:12]
uh
[1:57:13]
do you guys know your calendars or
[1:57:15]
I think we're planning for Do you have
[1:57:17]
us registered for Hiram
[1:57:19]
and Lewiston?
[1:57:20]
>> Lewiston.
[1:57:21]
Uh
[1:57:22]
the Lewiston organizer has not gotten
[1:57:24]
back to me, but the other ones I believe
[1:57:26]
I've registered you.
[1:57:27]
>> Cool. Thank you. And And is
[1:57:29]
>> all of these are registered?
[1:57:31]
>> Hiram, D-
[1:57:31]
>> No, no, just D- Hiram, so Newfield,
[1:57:33]
Hiram, and then Lewiston.
[1:57:35]
>> Okay.
[1:57:35]
>> Those are the ones I've done so far.
[1:57:37]
>> Okay.
[1:57:39]
Great. Is anyone able to attend Newfield
[1:57:41]
besides me?
[1:57:43]
>> I'll be out of town. Sorry.
[1:57:45]
>> What side?
[1:57:48]
>> Such a great parade.
[1:57:49]
>> We've We've talked a lot about this.
[1:57:52]
>> Oh.
[1:57:53]
Well,
[1:57:54]
let's see. It might be a intimate. Might
[1:57:56]
just be parade of one.
[1:57:59]
Uh
[1:58:00]
okay.
[1:58:01]
Um council member reports.
[1:58:03]
We'll start Joanne.
[1:58:05]
>> I don't have anything.
[1:58:06]
>> Okay. Nolan.
[1:58:08]
>> Um
[1:58:13]
we had a meeting with development
[1:58:14]
services back to um some things on for
[1:58:17]
planning and zoning, so we've asked
[1:58:19]
planning and zoning
[1:58:20]
Brian at development services offices to
[1:58:22]
work on our subdivision plan and water
[1:58:25]
that we had brought for us,
[1:58:28]
tweak it a little bit, get that out. Um
[1:58:31]
I think given
[1:58:33]
what we're seeing by Mother Nature, it's
[1:58:34]
very important to start considering what
[1:58:36]
we're looking at there from from that.
[1:58:38]
We also talked about
[1:58:40]
um rental units in the county, what
[1:58:43]
we're looking at at that, coming up with
[1:58:44]
some things, so we've asked the
[1:58:45]
development services office
[1:58:48]
now that Kirk can get out of their hair,
[1:58:49]
maybe, yeah?
[1:58:51]
Let them work on some things, so
[1:58:53]
Now they'll still be busy with uh Powder
[1:58:55]
Mountain, but hopefully they can give us
[1:58:57]
some things on that, too. So, we'll be
[1:58:59]
seeing more of that, hopefully, in let
[1:59:01]
Planning and Zoning
[1:59:03]
do that again and then bring it back to
[1:59:05]
us. I think that's an important thing we
[1:59:06]
need to work on.
[1:59:08]
That's all I have.
[1:59:08]
>> Thank you.
[1:59:10]
Um
[1:59:13]
uh was invited by Chief George, all of
[1:59:15]
us were invited by Chief George to uh
[1:59:18]
attended a multi
[1:59:21]
divisional
[1:59:22]
uh training that they had for the fire
[1:59:25]
up Blacksmith Fork Canyon and
[1:59:28]
2 weeks a week ago? I I don't know.
[1:59:30]
Time.
[1:59:31]
10 days ago, probably. And um
[1:59:35]
I went up there and it was
[1:59:37]
super interesting. They had um
[1:59:41]
he'll probably correct me, but I think
[1:59:43]
they had So, they had representatives
[1:59:45]
from the Forest um
[1:59:47]
like the US
[1:59:50]
Forest Department.
[1:59:51]
>> Forest Service.
[1:59:51]
Services, thank you. Um
[1:59:53]
Fire Division. And then they had um
[1:59:57]
like Weber and uh they had all the way
[2:00:00]
down to Alpine. So, many different
[2:00:03]
departments and then our department. And
[2:00:05]
then they had um state agencies that
[2:00:08]
were there, too. So, we had federal
[2:00:09]
agencies and our agencies and and state
[2:00:12]
agencies. They were all together and
[2:00:13]
they did training. And I thought what I
[2:00:16]
thought was really fascinating is they
[2:00:17]
don't All these different agencies don't
[2:00:21]
even use the same radio frequencies when
[2:00:24]
they are radioing each other. So, it's
[2:00:26]
like they have to learn, you know, if
[2:00:28]
you if we have a disaster and we're
[2:00:30]
calling in these different agencies they
[2:00:32]
don't want to have to learn day of how
[2:00:34]
to use each other's equipment or how to
[2:00:36]
even com- communicate with each other.
[2:00:38]
So, they are you know, having these
[2:00:41]
multi-departmental training so that they
[2:00:43]
can
[2:00:44]
have be prepared beforehand. Um and they
[2:00:47]
had videos of showing me how they were
[2:00:51]
um our our our department was guiding
[2:00:56]
the chopper with the bucket into the
[2:00:59]
like inflatable swimming pools to fill
[2:01:01]
it up with water and how they could
[2:01:02]
learn to do that. Um, now again before
[2:01:05]
disaster, um, there was they they showed
[2:01:09]
me all sorts of um
[2:01:11]
different drills that they had learned.
[2:01:13]
I had dinner with them. Um, it was a
[2:01:15]
really great experience and I enjoyed it
[2:01:17]
very much and um
[2:01:19]
that we have a great staff and I'm glad
[2:01:22]
that we were able to uh see the training
[2:01:24]
and that we were able to host that
[2:01:25]
training and they they really
[2:01:26]
appreciated and everyone um there
[2:01:28]
appreciates the county and I think that
[2:01:32]
all the different departments, I think
[2:01:33]
we won something or maybe it was Alpine,
[2:01:35]
I don't know. I'll say we won. Alpine
[2:01:37]
had such a fancy rig up there. It was
[2:01:40]
really fancy, but ours was humble and
[2:01:43]
but it was okay. We still were really
[2:01:45]
represented well. But, um, we really I
[2:01:47]
really enjoyed that. Going in the same
[2:01:49]
vein as fire, um
[2:01:51]
we had a meeting where we had a
[2:01:54]
an informal workshop to listen to those
[2:01:58]
that are employed um in the fire
[2:02:02]
uh
[2:02:03]
the different fire departments across
[2:02:04]
the county as they have expressed
[2:02:07]
concern for um not being able to give
[2:02:10]
voice and and to be heard and it was
[2:02:12]
just a two hours of listening to them and their concerns that they
[2:02:17]
have with uh the fire district and uh
[2:02:21]
hopefully they felt that that they had
[2:02:24]
an opportunity to to speak and and we
[2:02:27]
listened to them and that their uh their
[2:02:29]
concerns were were taken into account.
[2:02:32]
So, that was last week and we have
[2:02:34]
another meeting with the fire department
[2:02:36]
Thursday, fire district on Thursday.
[2:02:39]
So, lots going on with the fire
[2:02:41]
district. Um
[2:02:43]
Uh
[2:02:43]
other than that, I I don't have any
[2:02:45]
additional additional
[2:02:46]
>> other thing um if you want to mention
[2:02:48]
the UAC call yesterday.
[2:02:50]
>> Yes, UAC call yesterday. We had an um
[2:02:53]
uh
[2:02:54]
Brandy had called an emergency UAC
[2:02:56]
um call for
[2:02:58]
I mean, we'll call it what it is. I
[2:03:00]
think all of us U sacks. It was just the
[2:03:03]
Yes, just the councils and commissions
[2:03:06]
to talk about and get ahead of um
[2:03:10]
We know we've all witnessed what has
[2:03:11]
happened across mountain with um Box
[2:03:14]
Elder and how we can learn more about
[2:03:19]
uh data centers and and learn about the
[2:03:23]
what they've experienced but also um
[2:03:25]
messaging in our communities and um I
[2:03:29]
think it's it was really good. They're
[2:03:30]
going to put together um information and
[2:03:33]
have an informational session for us and
[2:03:36]
I look forward to that so we can all
[2:03:37]
learn um here within within uh the state
[2:03:41]
to see the impact that it has and and
[2:03:43]
the the need that we have for those but
[2:03:45]
also the need to learn about them and to
[2:03:48]
help with the messaging across the
[2:03:49]
state. Do you guys have anything else
[2:03:50]
you want to
[2:03:52]
share about that?
[2:03:53]
>> send that email today. So
[2:03:54]
>> Yeah, Brandy did.
[2:03:56]
>> Did she send it to everybody on the
[2:03:57]
council?
[2:03:58]
>> Uh
[2:03:59]
>> Or just those that was on the
[2:04:01]
>> I know I got it. I don't know.
[2:04:03]
>> It was sent on Friday morning.
[2:04:05]
>> GOED communication and survey link
[2:04:07]
below. So Have we had Has anybody
[2:04:09]
>> They sent
[2:04:10]
>> taken that from Have we just Have any
[2:04:12]
one of us
[2:04:13]
Are we all taking it or is it supposed
[2:04:14]
to
[2:04:14]
>> that to everybody.
[2:04:15]
>> Okay, so it doesn't it's not redundant
[2:04:17]
if we all take it on the council. Okay.
[2:04:19]
So yeah, the GOED
[2:04:21]
>> And they've given us another week to to
[2:04:23]
find to finish that.
[2:04:24]
>> Okay.
[2:04:25]
>> I got kicked out of it twice.
[2:04:27]
>> Oh, so it's
[2:04:28]
>> So we need a week then, right?
[2:04:29]
>> Mhm.
[2:04:31]
>> I started it twice but it
[2:04:33]
but I was in a bad place to
[2:04:36]
>> The service wasn't great.
[2:04:37]
>> No.
[2:04:37]
>> Or you were in a bad place.
[2:04:38]
>> No, I was bailing hay and it was bouncy.
[2:04:40]
>> Oh.
[2:04:41]
>> I must have kept hitting the wrong
[2:04:42]
button, I think.
[2:04:44]
I like your tractor head shock absorbers
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and comfort seat in it, so.
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>> So, yeah,
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we have a week we have until next
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Friday.
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Um this Friday, excuse me, this Friday
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to take that test that that survey, so
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um the opportunity zone survey.
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So, encourage everyone to hop on and
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take that survey.
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Dave.
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>> Uh it was interesting in that uh
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listening to that last uh Monday morning
[2:05:08]
or yesterday [snorts] morning,
[2:05:10]
it was really interesting.
[2:05:13]
It's just what uh ever what ever
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comes out,
[2:05:19]
an announcement of anything,
[2:05:22]
it's just really interesting how
[2:05:24]
certain
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factions grab it and try to just make it
[2:05:30]
like a bigger issue than really what it
[2:05:32]
is. And I'm not talking just DC, that
[2:05:35]
is. And I'm talking about anything that
[2:05:36]
comes out, it's just like
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you know, we got to blow it up before we really
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look at it and
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uh
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I felt bad of for a lot of the our
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fellow commissioners over there in uh Box Elder County as they're just trying to work through
[2:05:51]
things and they also have the same,
[2:05:55]
you know, respect for private property
[2:05:57]
rights as anybody else, but uh
[2:05:59]
anyway, it it it's tough. It's tough
[2:06:00]
right now, but uh
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>> I bumped with my [clears throat] desk.
[2:06:05]
>> You know, it's uh it's
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I think that I think if we go into a lot
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of these things and look at a lot of
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this stuff just a little more
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open-minded, I think that uh
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I think we'll get better results on
[2:06:17]
everything, whether it passes or not,
[2:06:19]
kind of thing.
[2:06:20]
We just need to
[2:06:22]
go through a little bit more open-minded
[2:06:23]
on everything that comes our way. But,
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let's
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I uh
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Anyway, as far as other reports,
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uh
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there's a lot of moving parts right now,
[2:06:35]
it seems like, going on in everything. I
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don't know if you guys feel the same
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way.
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Am I wrong? I mean, there's just a lot
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of
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you know, uh
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I feel like we're in a rubber room
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sometimes, cuz there's a lot of things
[2:06:48]
going on.
[2:06:49]
And uh
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and I I I wish we could
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kind of just methodically kind of pull
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some of those and maybe just
[2:06:59]
vegetate on those later and come up with
[2:07:01]
some,
[2:07:02]
you know,
[2:07:04]
not everything is as high priority as we
[2:07:06]
think it is sometimes, so
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that's it.
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» Mark.
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>> Um nothing to report on as far as
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actions
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that have occurred since our last
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meeting, but just by way of things
[2:07:20]
happening,
[2:07:21]
um coming up, we've got
[2:07:24]
uh O&P meeting on Friday,
[2:07:26]
where we'll be discussing the airport
[2:07:30]
um authority interlocal agreement.
[2:07:33]
And if time permits,
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one of the other
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10 items on the pending agenda.
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Um
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and then on
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uh Monday,
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15th, um
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the Northern Utah Outdoor Recreation
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Initiative will be holding a workshop,
[2:07:54]
um just by way of update. That's a state
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program that UAC appoints members of
[2:08:00]
counties to,
[2:08:01]
and I one of the county
[2:08:04]
representatives on that board. Ours is
[2:08:06]
five five counties in Northern Utah.
[2:08:10]
And so, just representing our county
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there.
[2:08:13]
Um and I'll bring back some information
[2:08:15]
from that as to what we can do with
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um what we
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maybe recommendation on what we ought to
[2:08:21]
do with the funding that could be
[2:08:22]
available to us for outdoor recreation
[2:08:26]
programs or projects.
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That's it.
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>> Thank you.
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>> I I have something after all.
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>> Okay, thank you. Go ahead.
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>> I I attended a a sort of a training with
[2:08:37]
CAPSA and the other
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um
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agencies with that and it was very
[2:08:43]
informative and
[2:08:46]
they need funds.
[2:08:47]
>> Was it USU?
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>> No, it was here at the CAPSA.
[2:08:51]
>> Oh, okay.
[2:08:52]
>> I and the brag there were several
[2:08:55]
agencies there but we met over there at
[2:08:58]
the
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What do they call that place anyway?
[2:09:02]
That gray building on 10th.
[2:09:05]
North where they the
[2:09:08]
um
[2:09:10]
the victims can go.
[2:09:12]
>> Mhm.
[2:09:13]
>> I don't know what it's called.
[2:09:16]
But he does but
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>> It's it's on 10th North there's CAPSA's
[2:09:19]
headquarters.
[2:09:20]
>> Right. Right. That was it I think. Yeah.
[2:09:23]
>> That's great.
[2:09:25]
Yeah.
[2:09:26]
>> Just invite Bryson to give them election
[2:09:27]
update.
[2:09:28]
>> For the primary election public and
[2:09:30]
primary make sure my office gets them by
[2:09:33]
8:00 p.m.
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Please vote. We only have about
[2:09:37]
3,000 people that already have already
[2:09:39]
voted.
[2:09:41]
So it's usually it's a lot less than we
[2:09:42]
thought.
[2:09:44]
>> Oh, that's it.
[2:09:45]
>> Do you have early voting some days?
[2:09:47]
>> have early voting next week here at the
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Cash County Administration Building. We
[2:09:50]
changed our hours to see if more people
[2:09:52]
can if they want to vote early.
[2:09:56]
Regular hours wouldn't have worked for
[2:09:58]
those that work so it's going to be
[2:09:59]
12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.
[2:10:00]
>> Oh, say that again.
[2:10:02]
>> 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.
[2:10:05]
Yeah, Monday through Thursday of next
[2:10:07]
week since Tuesday.
[2:10:09]
All right, two weeks.
[2:10:11]
>> Two weeks.
[2:10:12]
>> There you go.
[2:10:14]
>> Oh, great. Yeah, Bryson's been really
[2:10:16]
busy. They're ready to go. So yeah,
[2:10:18]
let's let's get a lot of votes. Drive
[2:10:21]
the turnout.
[2:10:24]
» Okay.
[2:10:26]
I'll accept a motion to adjourn.
[2:10:27]
>> So moved.
[2:10:29]
>> Second.
[2:10:30]
>> Okay. All those in favor say aye.
[2:10:31]
>> Aye.
[2:10:33]
>> I didn't want to
[2:10:34]
leave Nolan hanging out there to dry,
[2:10:37]
you know.
[2:10:37]
>> This This I wanted to take that survey
[2:10:39]
in the map to identify what area you're
[2:10:41]
in is broken.
[2:10:43]
>> Yeah, that's that's what I ran into.
[2:10:45]
>> I did, too.
[2:10:45]
>> Twice.
[2:10:46]
>> Yeah, so I mean
[2:10:47]
>> That's what I