City Council Meeting 08/05/2024

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[0:28] e e
[5:07] it's 5:45 and we'll begin our work
[5:10] session at this
[5:12] time have our 6:30 council meeting
[5:15] following
[5:18] this we'll start with Grace and work
[5:21] your
[5:23] around okay Alison sir Stacy
[5:29] K we've got our second of five budget
[5:32] work sessions after this meeting and I
[5:34] just kind of wanted to let the public
[5:36] know where we are in the budgeting
[5:38] process um it's a $41 million budget
[5:41] that we're looking at and in the general
[5:43] fund we budgeted a projected revenue of
[5:46] 27.9 million budgeted operating expenses
[5:51] are 22.7 million which that has a
[5:54] surplus of 5.2 million Revenue over
[5:57] expense but do you would you get the mic
[6:01] please we can't hear you come we
[6:09] get so just to kind of go over the
[6:12] budget that was initially given to the
[6:13] council it's a 41 million budget 27.9
[6:18] million is what is budgeted and
[6:19] projected in revenues for the general
[6:21] fund
[6:23] 22.7 is budgeted and operating expenses
[6:26] and that leavs a revenue over expense of
[6:29] 5 2 million so after the projected
[6:32] revenues minus the operating expenses
[6:34] including Personnel costs there's 5.2
[6:37] left over but that does not include new
[6:40] employee request of
[6:42] 74,000 and the main thing is it does not
[6:45] include Capital request of 7.5 million
[6:49] so there's 5.2 remaining Revenue over
[6:52] expends but there's 7.5 million in
[6:55] capital request so that leaves there's 3
[6:58] million in capital request more than
[7:01] what we have the funding to do so this
[7:02] council is charged with and you guys
[7:05] have a hard task of determining of the
[7:07] 7.5 million in request what to cut so
[7:11] that just kind of want to let everybody
[7:12] know where we are in the buing process
[7:15] and so we'll start our second budget
[7:16] work session
[7:19] M thank you K Chief uh not a whole lot
[7:23] um one thing I want to invite you to do
[7:26] is come by the department if you hadn't
[7:27] been in a while the uh staff has taken
[7:30] it upon themselves to do some clean up
[7:33] and a little bit of informal Remodeling
[7:37] on their own just because they're taking
[7:39] pride in in the place and that's
[7:41] something that we needed I think uh
[7:43] morale has gotten better here recently
[7:45] and if you notice in the lobby they've
[7:47] put some shelves out there and they got
[7:49] kind of a display of some of the old
[7:51] memorabilia that from kera's police pass
[7:54] that they found stored out of Station 3
[7:57] and uh what we're wanting to do is put a couple of uh monitors out there
[8:01] for the public when they're sitting out
[8:02] there with information that will roll
[8:05] and we've if you go in our training room
[8:07] they've cleaned it up I saw it for the
[8:08] first time I was out of town last week I
[8:10] saw it for the first time this morning
[8:12] the training room looks awesome they got
[8:13] it all straightened up all the junk out
[8:15] of there but on the monitor in there
[8:17] when our shifts are coming in for shift
[8:19] change and they have roll call well all
[8:22] of the pertinent announcements are on
[8:24] that screen and it just rolls through
[8:26] one announcement after another after
[8:28] another and they did it all themselves
[8:30] didn't know they were doing it if I had
[8:32] have been involved it would have turned
[8:33] out nearly as good but right now U we've
[8:37] got help I think some of the Seth's
[8:39] folks are coming over to help us
[8:41] pressure wash we want to pressure wash
[8:42] the building side the building looks bad
[8:44] sidewalks look bad the whole parking lot
[8:46] you know looks bad but we've moved a lot
[8:48] of those junk cars out we're trying to
[8:49] Surplus stuff got an old broke Speed
[8:51] trailer out there that's on the agenda
[8:53] tonight we want to get rid of the junk
[8:55] and we want the place to look
[8:56] professional so they're doing that
[8:58] themselves and like I said I had had
[8:59] nothing to do with it but I'm proud of
[9:01] and that shows that they're motivated
[9:03] and they have pride in their city and
[9:05] where they work that's
[9:07] all sir uh just at the the back at work
[9:11] on the uh pickle ball court at ring
[9:13] Hills um they're hoping tomorrow to be
[9:15] able to put the overlay on it they were
[9:17] kind of prepping today for it so uh
[9:20] hopefully that'll that'll get back going
[9:22] they were a little behind it's only one
[9:23] guy that really doesn't he a little
[9:24] behind due all the range so hopefully
[9:27] that project will get moving forward to
[9:28] be finished up
[9:30] do you have any estimation on that uh
[9:33] open date I
[9:36] don't all they all they have left though
[9:38] they they redid the the parking lot
[9:40] again put the final on that um they just
[9:42] got to after they do that pretty much
[9:44] come back and finish the fence
[9:47] around not
[9:51] much I don't have
[9:53] anything no
[9:57] sir start with the councel
[10:03] okay good evening everyone thank you
[10:06] just um starting with Chief H could you
[10:10] give us an update on the case program
[10:13] for the new school year sure yeah we're
[10:15] going to do all of the uh training
[10:18] initiatives that we did in the previous
[10:20] year but what we're really going to try
[10:21] to do is increase at some of the schools
[10:24] with the younger kids I I think we had
[10:27] much more involvement at the middle of
[10:29] the high High School which is kind of
[10:30] natural but we're really working hard on
[10:32] getting some additional programs I don't
[10:34] know if y'all have seen the nine square
[10:36] game that we brought but I had no idea
[10:39] it's this frame with you know you got
[10:40] nine sections in it and the kids hit the
[10:42] ball good grief they love that thing so
[10:44] that's a great way it's been a great way
[10:46] to attract kids uh when we go out to
[10:49] first Friday or we're also planning to
[10:52] do an event at uh the 9911 challenge we
[10:55] always do the stair challenge in commem
[10:58] commemoration of 911 with our fire
[10:59] department we're do it a little
[11:00] different this year we want to have kids
[11:02] involved and I really want to have kids
[11:05] against sro's and our explorers involved
[11:07] and make it a a big fun issue and also
[11:09] have a table and invite people to
[11:11] participate with case now one thing
[11:13] we've discussed and if my SRO are
[11:15] listening they'll probably be mad at me
[11:16] for this but we're talking about you
[11:19] know the case uh Camp was so successful
[11:22] this past year if you came out you saw
[11:24] those kids had a great time and I think
[11:26] our staff had a great time too we're
[11:28] thinking about doing that with more age
[11:30] groups next year and U if we get closer
[11:33] to fully staffed we can allow our SRO to
[11:37] work with the kids all summer long which
[11:39] I think would be a great thing to do uh
[11:41] we're not to that point yet and uh we we were spread kind of thin because you
[11:46] know we use our sro's for patrol as well
[11:49] in the summertime but uh Patrol stepped
[11:51] up and helped us out and we were able to
[11:53] get case Camp done but for next year in
[11:56] addition to the same programs that we
[11:58] were doing
[12:00] over the school year we want to add more
[12:02] for the younger kids and then next
[12:03] summer we really want to add additional
[12:06] camps for other age groups other than
[12:08] just the rising sixth
[12:10] graders well we appreciate it very much
[12:14] because it's it's positive for the
[12:17] children and and they really need that
[12:19] Cu uh I can see the difference they
[12:22] they're getting involved and and they
[12:24] seem to uh completely enjoy it we
[12:27] appreciate your your uh offices for all
[12:31] they do they do a great job and I do a
[12:33] great job of staying out of their way
[12:34] and taking credit for what they do
[12:36] that's what I do but no they are
[12:38] absolutely fantastic and you know what
[12:40] they we've attracted a lot of talent to
[12:42] come here and that's something to be
[12:44] said for Kera to be able to attract that
[12:46] I mean if you guys have met those if
[12:49] you've seen them interact with the kids
[12:51] we we have got some talent and we've got
[12:53] some dedicated people who love our
[12:55] schools and love the kids so we're very
[12:57] lucky I'm very lucky we're all ly to
[12:59] have those people thank you for bringing
[13:01] that up right we appreciate the the
[13:03] dedication of the officers we see it it
[13:05] is it is
[13:08] fantastic um next thing I have is uh for
[13:13] Public Works bill would you give us an
[13:16] update on the signal at 31 and6 and also
[13:21] 70 and
[13:23] 42 70 742 is approved and you'll see
[13:27] that request for the engineering and
[13:29] Construction in the capital
[13:32] budget um 31-6 I he still owes me
[13:36] a confirmed yes but I'm about 99% sure
[13:41] that they don't have a problem with it
[13:43] so it's also in the Capal budget so
[13:46] that's Al that youting on the cation
[13:49] yeah he gave
[13:51] us pretty much approval but he he said
[13:54] let me get back to my office and double
[13:56] check a few things and I'll give you a
[13:57] written approval but I know they been in
[13:59] plan review on much larger projects for
[14:01] the last couple weeks so um we actually
[14:05] got a sync up on a couple of the
[14:07] meetings but I would be shocked if it's
[14:09] not approved but I feel like I'm about
[14:11] 99% sure it' be approved as well so
[14:13] possibly we have some information
[14:16] September oh yeah oh yeah by by oh yeah okay all right then that's all I
[14:23] have thank
[14:26] you I just want to E what Miss K said
[14:30] the SRO the camp case was great I was
[14:35] had the opportunity to come over a
[14:37] couple of days and those kids thoroughly
[14:40] loved it SRO officers loved it and I
[14:43] loved it as well and I also want to say
[14:45] a shout out to the police officers they
[14:47] did active shooter training that is some
[14:51] intense training if you have not
[14:52] witnessed it of Taken part of it you
[14:55] will see what these officers go through
[14:59] again I appreciate them allowing me to
[15:01] participate in that um will the pedest
[15:06] right there at the the intermediate
[15:09] school do we have an update on it still
[15:11] working yeah no it's
[15:14] um I think parts are ordered so
[15:19] probably last ones last things came in
[15:22] took about six weeks to get all the
[15:23] material for some reason and that's
[15:25] another thing to think about too is on
[15:27] the 70 40 all that work
[15:29] a lot of that stuff is back ordered so
[15:31] if we place orders in October or
[15:33] November or
[15:34] whatever but a lot of that stuff is back
[15:36] ordered so probably a minimum 6 weeks
[15:38] maybe nine weeks to get the material to
[15:40] fix it so we we we're on target I mean
[15:44] you ordered the parts order parts okay
[15:47] the sun's order and then the there are a
[15:50] large number of street lights and I know
[15:52] we've had this conversation a couple
[15:53] times there are a large number of street
[15:55] lights out I count I personally counted
[15:57] 10 from the Napa to lestone do we know
[16:00] when those will be fixed I don't no I
[16:03] know I assume Miss Tracy reported them
[16:06] tone power but no I don't know I don't
[16:09] know that usually give them 14 days from
[16:12] the day we reported I think that's what
[16:14] they asked for 14 days okay that's all I
[16:17] thank
[16:20] you
[16:22] yes Main Street this might be a question
[16:27] forra we any any
[16:30] other to complete the one
[16:34] Pap for the electrical work y'all been
[16:36] talking about if you approve it we do
[16:38] need to expand that easement that we did
[16:40] previously to include specifically
[16:42] electrical work I believe that
[16:44] discussion also included some drainage I
[16:46] don't know what the council's decision
[16:47] is about actually funding that work but
[16:50] if you're going to do it we would need
[16:51] an easement as a first step to include
[16:53] those specific things
[17:00] K yes sir thank you um m is also
[17:03] director to you Miss Grayson I we talked
[17:06] about our same subject over a couple of
[17:08] months now but um what I wanted to know
[17:12] is when when do we need to have this
[17:16] public hearing for the change of
[17:21] government
[17:23] um well if you it depends on have y all
[17:27] decided what you want to do
[17:29] yet well I
[17:32] mean I guess that's a question to ask
[17:34] the counsel right now I mean if you if
[17:37] you go with that first option it just
[17:39] happens automatically so you you don't
[17:41] really need to have a public hearing
[17:43] there's no real public hearing required
[17:46] I think the citizen participation is due
[17:48] when you want to try to go to a city
[17:49] manager form of government it's really a
[17:52] decision of the council to make
[17:54] decisions in that timeline I believe the
[17:56] last memo I don't have it FR me that
[17:58] Connie sent around had had a timeline at
[18:00] the end like by which you need to act I
[18:03] mean obviously if the council thought
[18:05] Something's Happened to the Mone if the
[18:07] council thought that you know they
[18:08] needed input in a public way then
[18:11] obviously you'd want to have some kind
[18:13] of forum or something for people weigh
[18:15] in on what they they want and that would
[18:17] be totally within your discussion
[18:21] so so so basically it's based on which
[18:25] option the council I mean the options
[18:28] really require the only one that
[18:30] requires citizen action is the city
[18:31] manager former government the other
[18:33] one's requir yall to act as a body you
[18:35] know either to make some decisions about
[18:38] whether we going to places make some
[18:39] decisions about when you going to S
[18:41] other districts and of course that would
[18:42] require that somebody would come in help
[18:44] you with
[18:45] districting um you need to make some
[18:48] decisions if you want to maintain the
[18:49] way it is right now but all that's
[18:51] Council action so I mean that would just
[18:54] be the way you normally act you can have
[18:56] a public portion of your hearing to hear
[18:58] from people and you would pass an
[19:00] ordinance a resolution a permanent
[19:02] operation to you know to make those
[19:05] decisions so but if you want to have
[19:07] something special like I you know the
[19:10] budget meetings that yall are happening
[19:12] that y'all are having or something like
[19:13] that you could do that and arrange for
[19:14] some sort of
[19:15] help but the only one that requires just
[19:18] is that last one
[19:22] for the only other thing but as far as
[19:25] to the council we've been kicking can
[19:29] down the road um month after month
[19:32] council meeting after council
[19:34] meeting and I'm asking the council and
[19:38] mayor what action are we planning on
[19:42] taking are we ready to vote are we ready
[19:46] to make a
[19:47] decision each Council I mean I'm asking
[19:51] each one of us are we ready to make a
[19:54] decision on which direction we're
[19:57] planning on going
[20:01] okay starting with me you you normally
[20:05] start with me um yes I'm ready to make a
[20:09] decision I don't see why we would delay
[20:11] we need to uh move forward with this
[20:14] with in whatever direction we want to go
[20:18] in so we can move to other issues so I'm
[20:22] in favor of making a decision on the
[20:25] form of government do we want to have a
[20:28] president and and we the council members
[20:32] that we have it can remain at large we
[20:35] can keep the same
[20:39] six that's my take on
[20:42] it we can vote to have have it change to
[20:45] where we have a president and and we
[20:48] continue it at at large instead of
[20:50] having to go through all of this the the
[20:53] um as far as I understood it the
[20:56] discussion was did we want to to change
[20:59] the order of government and that's that
[21:02] the mayor is no longer presiding over
[21:06] the council that we have a president and
[21:10] the uh mayor is no longer responsible to
[21:14] um the city to vote with the council or
[21:18] you know preside over the council so I'm
[21:20] ready to move forward with
[21:25] that ready
[21:29] I've got one question for you m
[21:33] gra can we have seven council members
[21:38] you can if you go to single member
[21:39] districts and that will require
[21:41] districting out and everybody will have
[21:43] to live in that District uh so if
[21:46] there's two of you who live well I guess
[21:48] near each other then you may be you may
[21:51] be running against each other if you
[21:53] want to to do it that way so uh is
[21:56] what's on the table to talk about six
[21:58] council members and running at
[22:02] colge um I mean that's certainly one of
[22:05] the options if you if you do nothing and
[22:07] take no action because you had a
[22:09] population increase at the next election
[22:12] in 2025 it would be six of you elected
[22:16] at large and the mayor would then be
[22:18] down here and you all would organize
[22:20] yourselves and elect among the six of
[22:22] you a president of the council who
[22:24] preside over the meetings the mayor
[22:26] would no longer be a voting member of
[22:28] the C counsel that's if you do if you
[22:30] take no action the other options require
[22:33] you to take some
[22:34] action I'm ready to
[22:44] vote I I'm not ready to vote um I need
[22:48] to look at some more of this and look at
[22:50] it some more I
[22:52] me
[22:54] um but I'm making notes of what
[22:58] individuals are saying so I can
[23:02] um I'm not ready to vote
[23:05] tonight I can vote next meeting but I
[23:07] don't want to vote tonight we didn't
[23:09] discuss it previously to vote tonight so
[23:12] I've applied most of my energy for
[23:14] Budget
[23:15] information the question wasn't that we
[23:18] was planning on voting tonight the
[23:20] question were are we ready to vote on it doesn't have to be tonight nobody
[23:26] said anything about tonight
[23:30] the psh seem to be there for the vote
[23:31] tonight so that's why I make that
[23:33] comment but
[23:35] U yeah I'd consider being ready to
[23:39] vote um in the near
[23:42] future you want an
[23:52] answer that's a yes for me as well we
[23:54] can whenever we ready to vote I'm ready
[23:56] to go for it's a yes for me also so I
[24:01] guess as Alan
[24:03] stated um can we have this put on the
[24:06] agenda for our next council meeting that
[24:09] we be prepared to make that
[24:13] decision if yall are going to make a
[24:15] change there needs to be a draft
[24:17] ordinance and there needs to be
[24:18] something that that that you all can
[24:20] review and that you're actually voting
[24:22] on some specific language I mean again
[24:25] if if you're if you're going to take no
[24:27] action then this this move to the mayor
[24:30] coming down here and you all would
[24:32] remain up there and vote on the
[24:34] president that'll happen automatically
[24:36] you don't have to take any action but if
[24:38] you want to do any of those other
[24:39] options that outlined in Lio that would
[24:41] require action on your part and I think
[24:42] you need to get a draft together and
[24:44] that needs to be done thoughtfully and
[24:46] deliberately with the right language and
[24:48] then you would vote on some actual text
[24:50] right in front of you okay so let me ask
[24:52] this so based on that then that's one
[24:57] portion of of what is taking place
[25:00] because the other part the other part to
[25:03] that
[25:04] is the if we wanted to look into the
[25:07] form of a government with a manager that
[25:11] does that have anything to do with this
[25:14] first part that we just talked about
[25:16] tonight because you if I'm not mistaken
[25:18] you said we take no action you mean if
[25:21] you want to hire a c manager Mo to a
[25:23] manager Council form of
[25:25] government there's two two two of those
[25:27] things manager Council form government
[25:29] that's that requires the people to to
[25:31] weigh out and you've got to get an
[25:33] election you got to get some of many
[25:35] signatures got to file the pro that
[25:37] Court there's a lot of steps to that
[25:39] that's what this Council wants to do um
[25:42] if you want to hire a city manager
[25:44] that's sort of something you could also
[25:45] do but the issue about whether it's
[25:48] going to be six or seven is it at large
[25:50] places is it single member district
[25:53] those are decisions that have to be made
[25:55] by the council and I would formalize
[25:57] those in a written
[25:58] document that everybody can read and
[26:00] understand and deliberate on and then
[26:03] vote on eventually that would be my
[26:04] recommendation anyway that wouldn't just
[26:07] be done with some kind of you know
[26:08] verbal Motion in a second I I think you
[26:12] know you need to lay out exactly what
[26:14] you want to do unless what you want to
[26:16] do is just what happens automatically by
[26:19] operation law that's the mayor comes
[26:21] down here there'll be six of yall left
[26:22] voted at large just like you are now and
[26:25] then one of you will be the presiding
[26:26] officer of the counil
[26:29] so I guess that that question would be
[26:31] come to that question would come before
[26:34] the council to make that decision but
[26:37] that's separate because we to hire a
[26:39] city manager is that what your name yes
[26:42] ma'am yes you could do that separately
[26:44] yeah yeah I think the first question for
[26:46] yall is how you want to organize
[26:47] yourselves that would be my opinion
[26:49] about it and there's several options for
[26:52] that on the table again from do nothing
[26:55] to go to single member districts
[26:57] everything and that up to including
[27:00] manager counsil for of government which
[27:01] is what C people to L in but you can
[27:05] hire a city manager separate and apart
[27:07] from that process if that's what y'all
[27:09] wanted to do
[27:11] so explain to me what you're saying that
[27:15] um the mayor uh sitting down and we
[27:18] having the president as the former
[27:20] government how that would happen
[27:21] automatically is it due to the
[27:23] population what are you saying yes ma'am
[27:25] okay yes so once y'all reach so much in
[27:27] pop it happens by operation of law in
[27:30] the next election which for yall is
[27:32] 2025 so if you do if you do nothing
[27:35] what's going to happen is you'll be
[27:37] elected just as before it'll be at large
[27:40] there's six spots and the mayor then
[27:42] will be seated down here and y'all
[27:45] amongst yourselves will decide who you
[27:47] want to be the presiding officer that'll
[27:49] be a decision of the council okay and
[27:51] then the mayor will be a non voting
[27:52] member and uh there's some things he can
[27:54] beo but he can't vote on anything and so
[27:57] that's just going to happen if yall take
[27:59] no action at all the other options
[28:01] require some kind of action so that's
[28:03] why I'm saying if y'all want to do the
[28:05] ones that require action I certainly
[28:08] would would ask Connie to to draft up a
[28:10] some sort of thing in writing that would
[28:13] lay out what y'all want to do that would
[28:15] be in front of you all with the actual
[28:17] text and y'all would have an opportunity
[28:19] to deliberate on that text the actual
[28:22] words and make sure that's what
[28:24] everybody wants to do before or there's
[28:26] disagreement at least that will you know
[28:28] raise the disagreement like which
[28:30] direction you want to go in that's
[28:32] option one
[28:33] correct option one is doing is doing
[28:36] nothing that's ation taking no action
[28:38] not doing nothing and that question yeah
[28:42] I think it would be appropriate to have
[28:43] that on the agenda and the council to
[28:47] you know acknowledge that at this point
[28:49] I guess would yeah I think you should
[28:51] definitely add it to your agenda I think
[28:53] you should definitely give people notice
[28:55] of it I I I would not recommend doing
[28:57] this one as an amendment to the agenda
[28:59] because it's obviously such a weighty
[29:01] topic I get the people plenty of time to
[29:03] know it's going to be your agenda and
[29:05] get on the the the to do some public
[29:07] comments if that's what they want to do
[29:09] and I would give y'all an opportunity to
[29:10] see something in writing that would lay
[29:13] out kind what the council's vision is
[29:15] for for the future that's if you want if
[29:17] you want to do something that requires
[29:18] your
[29:20] action so Connie if we we ask you to do
[29:24] this um but then the next
[29:29] month would that give you enough time to
[29:32] talk to each council member so that you
[29:35] can get a consent to which direction
[29:39] y'all can give me a direction
[29:42] tonight if we're not
[29:44] changing to places we're going to keep
[29:48] the same voting elect your top six then
[29:51] you do nothing so it just be something
[29:54] drafted that says we will remain the
[29:56] same but if you're going to number your
[29:59] places go to
[30:01] five or if you like kille ask seven to
[30:05] go to seven we have to get someone in
[30:07] here to divide up the city into
[30:10] districts equal districts and that will
[30:13] require hiring someone to do that so I
[30:16] need some direction as to Which Way yall
[30:19] want to go depending on what I draft
[30:22] okay well and I'm in favor of doing
[30:24] nothing go with the the nothing w I
[30:28] think okay would you mind telling me you
[30:31] to do option one you know which option
[30:33] you want the option I want is the one I
[30:36] stated in the first place do right said
[30:40] we have the former government that we
[30:42] elect the president and
[30:58] okay
[31:00] Ernest okay and this would mean that
[31:04] still your citizens when they come to
[31:05] the call they would get one vote for
[31:08] mayor and only one vote for council
[31:10] member okay so make sure we all
[31:12] understood
[31:16] that thank
[31:18] you and then
[31:21] Council that gets elected would then
[31:24] elect a president of that group yes just
[31:28] like and that's going to happen because
[31:30] of the census population change yeah if
[31:33] you if you if you take no action that
[31:35] will
[31:37] happen organization meeting at first one
[31:40] in November instead electing a mayor Pro
[31:43] you would elect a council president and
[31:45] a council president
[32:04] I think we have up until February the 26
[32:07] which is the latest date to have all
[32:08] that in place is that correct yeah I
[32:11] don't have the m in front of me but I I
[32:13] can
[32:14] lookl yeah at the end of that the last
[32:17] versent that time but it's around
[32:21] there late feary if I remember right but
[32:23] anyway we could uh even if it's
[32:28] to be the consensus but if if if that's
[32:30] a little time you like Adam saying
[32:32] things he want to look over there's
[32:34] still plenty of time that we do want
[32:36] to yeah I mean that's right I mean if
[32:40] y'all want to do the I think the most
[32:42] complicated would be the manage or
[32:45] counsel for the government that's going
[32:47] to require a long time okay and those
[32:50] people the next one's probably single
[32:52] member districts because You' got to get
[32:54] some expert to come in and make sure
[32:56] we're not violating the Civil Rights
[32:58] Acts and all that in terms of the way
[33:00] people are provided and then you kind of
[33:02] move down in difficulty from there I
[33:04] don't think places are that difficult if
[33:06] I wanted to do that I don't do nothing
[33:08] obviously it's not we're going
[33:10] memorialize that you know in t um so
[33:15] yeah I mean the the more complicated you
[33:17] get you probably need to back up that
[33:19] time on you
[33:23] know and just one other thing just for
[33:26] information
[33:27] uh the uh the project that's going
[33:31] on is doing on Highway
[33:35] 31 they just leave town or
[33:39] something I've been watching the
[33:42] equipment park next door I thought they
[33:44] were going to crack up last night and go
[33:45] somewhere but I think they're I think
[33:47] they're Milling first and then come back
[33:50] and and do the overlays so I think
[33:53] they're north of here
[33:54] Milling but no they hadn't left they called today
[33:58] about an issue so no they hadn't left
[34:02] they'll be
[34:05] back yeah I just I just wondered about I
[34:08] think I think they think the r since
[34:10] they got prep to do the pav now with the
[34:14] heavy truck and all it's really big as
[34:17] you going up say close up tomorrow you
[34:21] can probably see it really get pretty
[34:23] bad yeah I didn't think to ask him he
[34:25] was he had asked us not to take out the grade Stakes when we cut
[34:31] grass so I didn't think to ask you when
[34:33] they were coming when they were going to
[34:34] finish
[34:35] up I can ask you see what their schedule
[34:43] is yes on the the bridge M where they
[34:47] where the the concrete meets the PVE it
[34:51] is so rough I mean it's it's almost at a
[34:54] point you almost can burst your tire
[34:57] when you I mean going at a 20 miles hour
[35:02] 15 miles hour to hit that that is there
[35:05] any way possible that they can smooth
[35:08] that just a little bit you talking about
[35:10] 31 31 up at the bridge which which
[35:14] Bridge W yeah yeah I can I'll talk to
[35:17] Andrew tomorrow and see what it's see
[35:19] what they're coming back just a probably
[35:22] an inch and a half bump it's bump I'll
[35:26] ask you tomorrow I don't Mill so much of
[35:28] it I used to Mill one lane and a it
[35:32] and they got a different way of doing it
[35:34] every time I do it yeah yeah but I'll
[35:37] ask you one this rough be careful on a
[35:40] motorcycle if you're not in a motorcycle
[35:42] it's
[35:46] bad we got a few minutes and I see a
[35:50] real distinguished guest that showed up
[35:52] in our
[35:54] room I I don't I don't mind on the spot
[35:58] Miss
[35:59] Jennifer come up and talk to us for a
[36:01] second
[36:04] absolutely look I'm tired I'm just going
[36:06] to be honest with you I'm tired I can
[36:08] hardly think straight
[36:11] um so I just wanted to come just on
[36:15] behalf of a clear high school and just
[36:17] thank you guys um for the
[36:20] $10,000 um we appreciate it very much um
[36:25] I think there's some other schools that
[36:26] were going to meet me here tonight but I
[36:27] just have going to get here earlier um
[36:29] the other thing that I really want to
[36:31] thank you guys for um is the second
[36:34] thing besides that is um the sro's that
[36:40] you guys have in our school um Chief and
[36:43] them do an amazing job and the third
[36:46] thing is for Seth Gandy over here and
[36:49] his guys and what they do for our
[36:51] facilities in our Fields um we are
[36:54] spoiled beyond measure um and and we
[36:57] appreciate apprciate that so just
[36:58] brought a little something for you guys
[37:01] um from the high school these are the
[37:03] shirts that were're given our teachers
[37:05] um this year and just wanted to share
[37:07] one um some with y'all so I will bring
[37:09] them up to you if that's okay can I
[37:12] approach all
[37:16] [Applause]
[37:18] right right
[37:22] I all right so
[37:29] and then Calvin also had a
[37:35] Fati thank you
[37:39] Allan little bitty petite over
[37:43] here
[37:46] Ernest let's see right
[37:52] here Connie just CU she's amazing and
[37:55] answering
[37:56] emails um got a I got a triple X yes
[38:00] absolutely and
[38:03] [Music]
[38:07] then Mr
[38:09] cost what size this
[38:18] is
[38:23] misses Turner thank you
[38:30] anyway just wanted to thank you guys um
[38:33] so much let you know um we are hoping by the end of the month um the
[38:39] new uh Wing to be open hopefully end of
[38:43] August beginning of September we've got
[38:46] our teachers we've been doing a lot of
[38:47] moving um getting them ready to go and
[38:50] that's going to be our freshman Wing um
[38:53] we're calling it The Landing um from
[38:56] actually got this idea from a parent at
[38:58] a baseball game um because the Eagles
[39:01] has landed so this is where our freshmen
[39:03] are going to be um at the school and
[39:05] then we're going to call The Landing for
[39:07] them so we're really excited about it
[39:09] and looking looking forward to working
[39:10] with you guys um this year so thank you may I ask one question please
[39:16] sure um I'm sorry but uh the uh the new
[39:22] building that the addition to the school
[39:25] did everything finish inside of that
[39:27] well um almost so the inside it is very close um we're going to be there
[39:33] tomorrow um and Wednesday if you guys
[39:35] want to come by and just take a scroll
[39:37] through it just let us know um the
[39:40] office tomorrow will be open on
[39:43] Wednesday just ring the buzzer and we'll
[39:46] get you in we'll be getting ready for
[39:47] our freshman orientation that afternoon
[39:49] but we would love for you guys to come
[39:50] see it um if you want to come take a
[39:52] stroll through it and see it's close
[39:53] it's really really close so we're we're
[39:56] excited it looks really good good and
[39:57] our teachers are excited and our
[39:59] students are excited as well so can't
[40:01] wait for y'all to see it I took a walk
[40:03] through two weeks ago and it was near
[40:08] comption I'm very impressed with the the
[40:10] building the way they built the building
[40:12] they have metal storm doors on the
[40:15] inside of the doors and then the windows
[40:18] have fold down so it is a tornado safety
[40:23] shelter there's windows that close there
[40:25] is a um generator a button to press um
[40:30] for a generator if we ever get into that
[40:32] situation in case electricity goes out
[40:35] um but it's it's looking really really
[40:37] good just hope that hope that never
[40:40] happens but we are safer in that
[40:42] building than we or any other building
[40:44] in your facilities correct so it's it's
[40:47] nice it looks really good thank you for
[40:50] coming to speak to us you're welcome
[40:51] thank you guys so much we we really
[40:54] appreciate um the the the support
[40:57] um and the the extra money that's going
[41:00] to be put to good use for our students
[41:02] thank you thank
[41:12] you Jackie we have you on here I don't
[41:15] know if you want to speak to us now
[41:16] we've got about N9 minutes I can just
[41:19] share a little bit um I know a lot of
[41:21] you have been downtown recently but for
[41:23] those of you that haven't it is looking
[41:25] so great I could not be more proud of
[41:29] this playground everybody is loving it
[41:32] um huge shout out to Seth and his team
[41:34] they got the fence up and it was
[41:36] beautiful and of course numerous I can't
[41:39] name enough people in public works and Engineering to get everything safe
[41:43] and secure for First Friday and we had
[41:46] first Friday we hated that it rained but
[41:49] what happened was we could enjoy this
[41:51] gigantic Pavilion and the playground
[41:54] except for the ttimes that it was
[41:55] lightning so the kids kids had a blast
[41:58] and even though we had some rain and
[42:00] vendors had to leave early people were
[42:03] still able to um go to the food truck or
[42:06] visit some of our uh downtown merchants
[42:08] and sit under the Pavilion listen to the
[42:10] DJ and and still have a good time even
[42:12] though it was spring so that's really
[42:14] awesome and what it did was kind of
[42:16] prove to us how many things can still go
[42:18] on we're not going to be so weather
[42:19] dependent certain things can happen all
[42:21] the time just because of this amazing
[42:22] Pavilion so it's gorgeous people love it
[42:25] and I I looked out several times today
[42:29] and i' I've not seen a time that there
[42:30] wasn't a child with the mama watching U
[42:33] playing on the playground so I think
[42:34] it's going to really bring us a lot of
[42:36] foot traffic and a lot of excitement
[42:38] downtown so huge thank you there also
[42:41] they're getting ready to complete the
[42:43] alley activation that is almost done the
[42:46] arch is set to be or the the date that
[42:49] they gave me is a 20th I hope that is
[42:52] still um happening uh in a couple weeks
[42:54] the arch will be up and they going
[42:56] concrete later this week and that's
[42:58] going to be just about done so it's my
[43:00] uh goal to have something in the middle
[43:02] of September where we can celebrate all
[43:04] of that the alley activation being
[43:07] finally totally complete you know we
[43:08] started with just lights and then the mural but all these other things
[43:12] will completed oh and I didn't mention
[43:15] the benches so that $7500 Grant bought
[43:19] the most gorgeous benches and Seth was
[43:21] able to get those put together and
[43:23] delivered um on Friday or Thursday
[43:24] Friday something like that and they
[43:26] stand out they're so pretty so excited
[43:28] about that and it's just all coming
[43:30] together so I know you guys will be
[43:32] ready to see it all completed and and
[43:35] none more than me it's it's good though
[43:38] so lots it was the last first Friday of
[43:40] the season and it went unfortunately wet
[43:43] but um went well still and uh just
[43:47] because that's over there's a lot of
[43:48] other new things on the horizon with this new uh addition to the
[43:53] Courtyard we have a car show coming up
[43:55] in September uh I may mentioned this
[43:57] already but we're planning a lot more
[43:59] for Christmas we're going to do our
[44:01] first um Festival of trees and um you
[44:05] know In The Heat Of Summer I've been
[44:07] talking to North Carolina trying to get
[44:09] some
[44:09] trees so just a lot of great stuff um I
[44:13] don't know if anybody had any questions
[44:14] for me but it's just a just a brief
[44:18] update thank you we appreciate what
[44:20] you're doing D there thank you so much
[44:22] looks good
[44:48] so
[44:51] quiet James I didn't ask you about what
[44:54] you may have I'm sorry
[44:58] I don't have anything new okay just keep
[45:01] making this look good right we're trying
[45:05] sharing all our post on social media
[45:54] how Surplus items you mention you're
[45:58] taking some of those Vehicles down to
[46:01] the storage lot shop I think we got them
[46:05] all of them finally we had one that we
[46:07] had a lot of trouble getting moved but
[46:10] uh yes sir and um we're going to have
[46:13] another round Surplus stuff we're going
[46:15] to bring you probably next city council
[46:18] meeting we're working through it it's a lot we station three if you
[46:22] haven't been out there and looked at
[46:24] what all had been accumulating there for
[46:26] the last from know 20 plus
[46:29] years that's quite a bit we had the
[46:32] bicycles on here didn't we I believe we
[46:35] did this
[46:39] time we're going to give the bicycles to
[46:43] kids we're working with h new Mount
[46:45] Mariah and also
[46:49] um uh Brandon Allen's mentorship program
[46:53] to find kids to donate those bicycles to
[46:57] if it's not on these in these it'll be
[46:59] in the next one at about I guess it's
[47:02] not in there is it kind it'll be in the
[47:05] next
[47:06] group 30 to 40 bicycles that have been
[47:09] recovered from thefts and never claim
[47:12] some of them you know been there forever
[47:14] and there's no sense in them just
[47:15] sitting there so we're going to try to
[47:17] the ones that need repair repair them
[47:19] and give them to kids
[47:28] quickly I think it may be going on all
[47:31] the schools
[48:20] is going to be at the middle
[48:24] school what day did you
[48:27] Thurs
[48:36] th a lot of changes in traffic patterns
[48:40] a lot of lot of things changed at this
[48:43] time of the year Saturday was rough on
[48:45] the
[48:46] interstate well we have a lot of local
[48:50] traffic with the buses
[48:53] running hope everybody's safe
[48:58] know the elementary
[49:00] school nearly everybody stops and walks
[49:03] their children
[49:05] in on those first few days of school I
[49:09] know it's congested in that area I guess
[49:11] you've got police ready to assist that's
[49:16] another reason we we're so grateful to
[49:18] have seven SRO and uh they they can
[49:21] handle the traffic is you know we just
[49:23] don't have the patrol staff to do it so
[49:26] I know there's still problems it's
[49:28] there's always going to be problems with
[49:29] traffic but a lot of them we can't solve
[49:32] but at least we've got enough staff to
[49:34] keep the schools safe and to help with
[49:36] the traffic as well we haven't always
[49:38] had
[49:48] that father God we come to you and just
[49:50] thank you so much for what you did for
[49:52] us father we know that there's a lot of
[49:54] moving Parts going on in City now and we
[49:57] know that uh you're aware of every one
[50:00] of them Father we uh would like for you
[50:02] to um touch each child and and uh School
[50:07] administrator and teacher staff as the
[50:10] year begins father give them a good
[50:12] start to the year and confidence to to
[50:16] do their best father we ask that you be
[50:18] with us as we make decisions for the
[50:20] city and we ask these things in your
[50:22] son's name amen amen
[50:27] to the flag of the United States of
[50:30] America to
[50:32] the stand
[50:35] na
[50:37] indivisible
[50:54] andice all right the first item I have
[50:56] only on the agenda is the approval on
[50:59] our agenda as
[51:03] presented a
[51:05] motion got a
[51:07] motion second Motion in a
[51:11] second I want to amend the agenda is
[51:14] this is this part
[51:19] that um if the agenda is approved
[51:22] amending it takes a 23
[51:29] if the agenda you just moveed to to vote
[51:31] and adopt the agenda so you can amend it just takes a greater number of people
[51:36] to amend I i' would like to bring it to their attention to to amend
[51:44] agenda I got a I got a motion and a
[51:47] second on the table all in favor for the
[51:50] agenda soar
[52:00] oppos
[52:03] likewise so I'm not going so I'm not
[52:06] going to get
[52:07] to amend the agenda yeah now you can you
[52:10] can make a motion to amend i' like to
[52:13] make a most of agenda need to tell you
[52:16] about what the what the agenda is is to
[52:19] vote to declare a clear Courtyard and
[52:23] the adjacent properties as a public
[52:27] purpose that's one of
[52:30] them then the vote to move forward with
[52:33] connecting the electrical the conduit
[52:36] for communications and gutter
[52:40] drains Main Street is willing to pay
[52:44] $50,000 toward the
[52:48] supplies and asking the city to pay the
[52:51] remaining materials and the
[52:54] L that's that's what
[52:57] so i
[53:03] j i there's a motion on the floor so it
[53:07] would be a second and then you're going
[53:08] to have to have like a super majority to
[53:11] approve I mean I would just say this if
[53:14] you want to make because public purpose
[53:16] is something that's required by our
[53:19] constitution I I would urge you to put
[53:21] that in writing and let Connie come up
[53:23] with something that that y'all could
[53:24] deliberate on and vote on and then of
[53:27] course it still requires at least for
[53:29] the electrical work that that we have an
[53:32] easement that includes that as I said
[53:34] earlier anything else that you think you
[53:36] know is the public purpose because you
[53:38] can't otherwise you're not going to be
[53:40] able to do the work you've got to have a
[53:41] eent it's unconstitutional to act
[53:43] without the easement and the public
[53:48] okay can put the easement this be a part
[53:52] of it is for
[53:53] easement um I mean I need to I need to
[53:56] amend the eement and I need to get it
[53:58] back to City officials and take a look
[54:00] at it um and to include whatever I know the electrical but
[54:05] there's other things that Main Street
[54:06] mentioned in that last meeting I don't
[54:08] know what everybody feels about that um
[54:10] but of course I'm happy with the mayor's
[54:12] permission to to amend that and put it
[54:14] back for heal you know for
[54:17] consideration
[54:19] um that I would I would recommend making
[54:22] something in writing about the public
[54:23] purpose and how you want to move forward
[54:25] and what that public purpose this is and
[54:27] what you intend to what what the benefit
[54:30] is to be DED to the public by making
[54:33] this expenditure and I would definitely
[54:35] put that in writing because you've got
[54:37] to have that to be constitutional and to
[54:39] spend this money so I I mean that would
[54:42] be my recommendation do we have to do
[54:45] that before we can can vote on whether
[54:47] we can order nect materials yes sir
[54:51] you've got you've got to have the
[54:53] easement in place you've got to have the
[54:56] stated public purpose whatever the
[54:58] council thinks that is and then you can
[55:01] move forward if the council intends to
[55:02] do so and allocating the money of course
[55:05] you know
[55:06] that's if we
[55:08] have and I'm assuming this would be in
[55:10] the 2025 budget right this isn't
[55:12] something you're talking about getting
[55:13] done before the end of SE this budget so
[55:17] it would be done now we got the money in
[55:19] the budget and talking to Robert it's
[55:21] like I think he said a 8 to 12 week lead
[55:23] on the stuff coming in if it doesn't
[55:26] come in in for 8 to 12 weeks that's a
[55:28] next year expenditure not a this year
[55:31] expenditure okay well I guess we they to
[55:34] get the paperwork road for the easements
[55:36] and everything together then bring it
[55:38] back to V yeah I would recommend putting
[55:41] something writing about the council
[55:42] state public purpose just so that all of
[55:44] you are covered in terms of what what
[55:46] you stated as a legislative body would
[55:48] satisfy that constition I think too
[55:50] we're getting ahead of ourselves at the
[55:52] AT&T cuz I don't know that we've been
[55:55] told exactly what they W yeah I don't
[55:58] have the cost
[55:59] no I don't have as far as the conduit
[56:02] putting a conduit in yeah they they talk
[56:05] with you I guess we y'all probably know
[56:07] what conduit but I don't know their cost
[56:09] for relocation they haven't sent me
[56:11] their cost estimate for
[56:13] relocate we had to pay them to do that
[56:15] we had to pay them to do a cost estim okay so we got some things
[56:20] that the E need to involve uh
[56:24] Telecommunications
[56:27] other just electrical it's
[56:30] telecommunications and uh drainage yeah
[56:34] I I mean
[56:35] whatever whatever y'all are agreeing to spend public money on the easement
[56:40] needs to include all of those things and
[56:43] once that's in place you still need your
[56:45] public purpose you have to state that
[56:47] and get it on the record and then you
[56:50] have to allocate the money for it so
[56:53] that's kind of the steps that need to
[56:54] happen I'm happy to help anybody to to
[56:57] get some IIs the mayor authorize that
[56:59] work but y'all have to tell me what you
[57:01] want to include and all that I know we
[57:03] talked about electrical but I know there
[57:04] were other things that were mentioned at
[57:06] that last meeting the main Street's
[57:08] presentation if the council wants to go
[57:10] forward with that you know just let
[57:12] me thank
[57:16] you
[57:18] the so excuse me so we BR to to move
[57:21] forward with it you will do the um the
[57:26] mentation or whatever it
[57:28] is yeah I mean I'm happy to do to revise
[57:30] the easement we already have one
[57:32] easement but when I read back it does
[57:33] not include electrical specifically it
[57:35] deals with other utilities so we will
[57:37] have to be modified and mayor with your
[57:40] permission I'm happy to help with that
[57:41] language we'll have to get those owners
[57:43] of the property to to sign that again
[57:45] and grant us permission give us am
[57:47] easement on things that y'all intend to
[57:51] do I think that's the appropriate way to
[57:53] do it
[57:59] on the agenda we have the approval of
[58:00] the minutes from last meeting in the
[58:02] budget work session and the regular work
[58:05] session on July
[58:07] 15 may make a motion to
[58:10] dispense make a motion second Motion in
[58:14] a second all in favor say
[58:17] I budget work session dates everybody
[58:20] has those dates we got a meeting
[58:24] following
[58:25] this council meeting in the
[58:29] uh room in the back and then we have a
[58:32] Wednesday meeting as well so everybody's
[58:35] got those dates
[58:38] direct resolution 202
[58:41] 24-38 is the Grant Management LLC
[58:44] renewal with
[58:47] Cara I have I have a question about this
[58:50] I'm all for renewing this but I did
[58:53] notice that there was some pricing that
[58:55] was broken out
[58:56] into increments so will we be able to
[59:00] get the discount will be able to to pay
[59:02] for this up front all yes we we can pay
[59:04] for it it's a significant savings if we
[59:06] pay her all at once up front and so
[59:08] we'll pay for it in September book it as
[59:11] a prepaid so we'll pay it in September
[59:13] but the expense won't hit to next year
[59:14] so that allows us to get the reduced
[59:16] cost and have the expense hit next
[59:21] year I think K has done a fabulous job
[59:24] so far
[59:26] [Music]
[59:27] it's just really good she was in
[59:29] Washington last week talking to the
[59:31] Federal Railroad on our
[59:33] behalf she goes and goes
[59:37] so anybody want to make that motion yeah
[59:40] mayor I'd like to make it but I'd like
[59:42] to make it to pay in
[59:46] full got a motion I'll
[59:49] second Motion in couple of seconds all
[59:52] in favor say
[59:54] I with
[59:57] resolution 20
[1:00:00] 24-39 is
[1:00:02] the first kind of round of some of your
[1:00:06] police Surplus items Chief mentioned to
[1:00:11] you motion
[1:00:14] we cose those items you got yeah I
[1:00:17] motion we approve that I second a motion
[1:00:20] in a second all in favor say I I Mo
[1:00:25] likewise
[1:00:27] we covered your time do Jackie I think
[1:00:30] so okay