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[0:05] All right, everyone. Let's uh start the regular city council meeting.
[0:20] So, the hour of 6 p.m. having come and gone, we'd like to call the regular
[0:24] meeting to order at 6:20 p.m. Madame Clerk, can you please call the
[0:30] role?
[0:36] » Williams, >> here.
[0:40] » Here, here. Here >> with seven members answering the call,
[0:46] we do have a quorum to conduct business. Will everyone please rise for the pledge
[0:51] of allegiance
[0:55] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
[0:59] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
[1:04] for all.
[1:12] Before we begin, I would like to uh announce that former alderman
[1:18] uh from the seventh ward, Mr. Sam Bullock passed away.
[1:25] Uh we're preparing a resolution, but at this time I would ask for a
[1:31] moment of silence and then I will go to the colleagues if they have any
[1:34] comments. So, at this time, can we have a moment of silence for the life and
[1:39] memory of former 7th W Alderman Sam Bulock?
[1:51] Thank you everyone. Alderwoman Phillips not only has been
[1:57] communicating with the family, uh, but Alderwoman Phillips, uh, if you have
[2:01] anything to to say regarding, uh, the services. I do have, uh, the date for
[2:09] Autooman Phillips. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, I did not receive
[2:14] that information from his granddaughter.
[2:19] [screaming]
[2:27] Okay. Thank you um mayor for this information. So the information is as
[2:33] follows. Can you guys hear me? >> Yeah.
[2:36] » Okay. Thank you. So, his funeral services will be Thursday, September
[2:40] 10th, 2016 at Wallace Broadview Funeral Home, and that's located at 2020 West
[2:48] Roosevelt Road in Broadview, Illinois, 60155.
[2:53] The wake will begin at 10:00 a.m. and the funeral service will follow at 10:30
[2:58] a.m. Intermittent will be at Oak Ridge Cemetery in Hillside, Illinois. Thank
[3:05] you. I personally would just like to offer my condolences to the family and
[3:10] um offering that for myself as well as other members of the seventh ward. I
[3:16] didn't have the pleasure of meeting Mr. Bulocks, but I've heard nothing but
[3:19] great things about him. So again, I just like to offer my condolences to the
[3:23] family. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you, Alderoman.
[3:29] » Any other colleagues? If not, we can wait till the the family
[3:34] I'm sorry, Alderman Garden. >> Thank you, mayor. I share those same
[3:37] sentiments. Uh we're just extending our prayers and condolences to his family. I
[3:41] do remember him serving for a short period of time. So, we're just thankful
[3:45] for his service and we uh to the residents of Cal City. Um we're
[3:50] definitely praying for his family. Thank you. Thank you, Alderman.
[3:56] Again, we will the city is preparing a resolution for Alderman Bulock and his
[4:00] wife and his family. Uh so we will have that at the next meeting uh to present
[4:06] to the city council.
[4:09] The next item uh before we go to roll uh before we go to public comment. So just
[4:15] want to announce that today uh we started negotiations with two unions.
[4:21] Um, in those negotiations, uh, were Clerk Figs, um, Alderwoman
[4:27] Phillips, Alderwoman Nelson, Alderwoman Wilson. Uh, we also had city
[4:34] administrator Deianne Jeffrey, we had Cleo Jones in the meeting. We had u
[4:39] » Jericho Thomas >> Jericho Thomas in the meeting. So, we're
[4:42] going to report back u at the next meeting when we have uh more to report
[4:47] on for the union negotiations. the union negotiations with was with local 700 and
[4:53] with local 150. So, uh we we started the process and hopefully we can uh get to
[4:59] some agreement with these two unions uh to have uh some semblance of what the
[5:05] unions want and some semblance of what the city council wants.
[5:09] » Yes. >> So, we'll report back to that. But I I
[5:11] think we had we had a great start today and we're going to keep it going.
[5:16] Uh the next item I'd like to report on is uh for Michigan City Road. Uh I think
[5:23] Matt reported on Michigan City Road, our city engineer, a while ago, but Michigan
[5:27] City Road has been completely resurfaced and redone. So it's from uh M Torrance
[5:35] Avenue all the way to Stateline Road. Is that correct, Matt?
[5:40] » That's correct. >> And what was Can you step to the mic,
[5:43] Matt? the total cost of the project and uh
[5:47] it's done now but the total cost of the project
[5:51] » um I don't have that a sorry >> sorry um I don't have that uh
[5:57] information available but I can get it to you but the project was from Torrance
[6:00] Avenue all the way down to Stateline Road uh it was a Cook County uh
[6:05] partnership project Cook County led the uh leading the the project it's a smart
[6:10] overlay uh should provide the road a serviceable life for at least the next
[6:16] 10 to 15 years easily and uh we're very happy that uh to have that partnership
[6:21] with the county on that.
[6:25] » Thank you. Any questions of Matt? If not uh let us do uh our public
[6:31] comment, Matt, and then we may have to bring you back up during the meeting.
[6:36] At this time, let's move on to item four on the agenda, which is public comment.
[6:40] Is there anyone from the public who would like to comment on any item on
[6:43] this agenda?
[6:48] Is there anyone from the public who would like to comment on any item on
[6:51] this agenda?
[6:55] Seeing none, just for the record, we have not received uh as of 10:00 a.m.
[7:00] today any electronic requests for public comments to be added to the agenda. Uh
[7:06] so that is always an option to anyone who uh cannot attend or wants to attend
[7:11] but is watching uh via TV. We want to make sure that you know that you can
[7:16] submit any questions, any public comments via email uh as long as it's by
[7:22] 10:00 a.m. the day of the meeting. Moving on to item five on the agenda,
[7:28] approval of minutes. Um
[7:32] there are no minutes on the agenda to be accepted and voted on tonight.
[7:39] Item six on the agenda isformational items.
[7:43] Uh this is regarding the regular city council meeting of August 27th.
[7:53] I have no idea what that matter is. So can we
[8:00] move on from this matter. Item number six is which isformational items. Uh so
[8:05] we can't place on file something for August 27th which is August 27th.
[8:13] » Yeah. So the next item is new business action items uh action items uh 71
[8:21] through six. Does anyone have any questions around items 71 through six as
[8:28] submitted? >> I don't, but I have new business if if I
[8:32] um it's nothing uh to vote on. I just wanted to know if after the meeting I
[8:38] could take a look at the uh office uh the city owned property down the street.
[8:44] I think it would make a good uh automatic hub um where we would have a
[8:50] place to talk to our constituents, maybe set up some computers. Um that way we're
[8:55] not on the street or in someone's house or, you know, after hours being here. Um
[9:03] if if you don't mind us doing that, >> we'll definitely make sure you guys get
[9:07] in it and get keys to it. >> And take it by office.
[9:16] The clerk just offered her office up down.
[9:18] » No, she don't like us down there. But >> you guys can take the clerk's office
[9:22] space. >> Yeah. But it helps prevent some of us
[9:24] are sitting in the car trying to send emails and stuff just so we won't go
[9:28] home. Then also too a reminder, we were supposed to take a tour of the building
[9:33] across the street to get information so we could can we get that going? We'll
[9:37] put that on the upcoming agenda that we're we're going to call and uh make
[9:42] sure we do that because we have the plans that were submitted uh that have
[9:45] to be submitted to the clerk. Um I think we have those plans via email. They were
[9:50] just sent to us um two weeks ago, but I'll make sure I send them to everyone.
[9:55] » Okay.
[9:58] » Item seven on the agenda 7 1-6. If there is no question about these, is there a
[10:02] motion to uh approve action items 71- 6? So move.
[10:07] » Motion made by Alderman Williams and second by Alderwoman
[10:13] Phillips. >> Nelson.
[10:15] » Was that Nelson or Phillips? >> It was Nelson.
[10:17] » Nelson.
[10:23] » No, I wasn't. >> So Alderwoman Phillips Nelson Nelson
[10:29] second the motion. >> Madame clerk, for the record, can you
[10:33] call the role on items 71 through six? I don't know.
[10:39] » Wilson. >> Yes.
[10:42] » Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
[10:45] » I think >> yes.
[10:49] » Yes. >> Yes.
[10:52] » Yes. On the roll call. Vote to seven voting
[10:56] yes. Zero voting no. Zero voting present. Item number 71 through six is
[11:00] passed as presented. Item number eight, are new business action items, building
[11:05] permits, new fence. Are there any questions regarding items 8 1 through
[11:10] two?
[11:13] » I'll make a motion that >> I'll second.
[11:18] » Okay. Motion to approve by Alderman Williams,
[11:22] second by Alderman Nelson. Madam clerk, can you please call a role on items 8,
[11:26] one, and two? One, and two.
[11:30] » Yes.
[11:32] Tilman, >> yes.
[11:35] » William, >> yes.
[11:37] » Gar, >> yes.
[11:39] » Nelson, >> yes.
[11:41] » Phillips, >> yes. Harvey,
[11:43] » yes. Wilson, >> yes.
[11:47] » Item number nine, the new business uh building [clears throat] permits fence
[11:50] variance. Um, item 91 is, uh, the first ward.
[11:55] » Yeah. >> Are there any questions regarding this
[11:57] matter? >> I have no questions. by motion.
[12:00] » Motion made by Alderwoman Harvey. Is there a second?
[12:05] » Second. >> Second.
[12:06] » Second by Alderwoman >> I am looking
[12:08] » Phillips to approve item number 91. Madam clerk, can you please call the
[12:12] role on item 91?
[12:17] » Yes. >> Gardner,
[12:19] » yes. >> Nelson,
[12:20] » yes. >> Phillips,
[12:22] » yes. >> Harvey,
[12:24] » yes. >> Wilson,
[12:26] » yes. >> Yes. with seven members vote yes, zero
[12:30] vote no, zero vote present. Items number uh 91 is approved. Uh items 10 is
[12:38] building permits, new garage uh alman.
[12:49] I'd like to make a motion to approve item items 91 as presented.
[12:53] » Second. Motion made by Alderman Tilman, second by Alderwoman Wilson.
[12:59] » 91 or 101? It's 101. >> 101.
[13:02] » 101. 101. I'm sorry. I'm 101 to approve. Uh, so motion was made by Alderman
[13:09] Tilman for the record and second by Alderwoman Wilson for approval of 101.
[13:15] Madam clerk, can you please call a roll on item 101?
[13:19] » Gar. >> Yes.
[13:22] » Nelson. Yes. >> Phillips.
[13:24] » Yes. >> Harvey.
[13:26] » Yes. >> Wilson.
[13:27] » Yes. >> Till.
[13:29] » Yes. >> Williams.
[13:30] » Yes. >> With seven members voting yes. Zero
[13:33] world no. Zero world present. Items 101 is approved as presented. Item 11. Our
[13:38] resolution and ordinances. >> So move. Second.
[13:42] » Motion made by Alder Alderwoman Wilson. Second by Alderwoman Harvey.
[13:47] Madame clerk can you please call a role on items 11.
[13:51] » Nelson. Yes. >> Phillips.
[13:54] » Yes. >> Harvey.
[13:55] » Yes. >> Wilson.
[13:56] » Yes. >> Yes.
[13:58] » Williams. >> Yes.
[13:59] » Yes. All about voting. Zero. Seven voting
[14:04] yes. Zero voting no. Zero vote present. Items 11 1 is approved.
[14:12] We're on item 12 1 through 31. Are there any questions regarding items
[14:19] 1 through 31? I don't know what that >> uh I just have one um
[14:26] in the bill length I would like to table uh in item 30 it is payment to first
[14:32] work media >> uh which one
[14:37] » uh it's listed in alphabetical order so first work media in the bill listing
[14:47] » yes line 31 >> no just that item Okay.
[14:54] » Is there a motion to amend item number 31 as presented to remove
[15:02] uh first work? >> Yes.
[15:05] » Motion motion made by Alderwoman Wilson, second by Alderman Gardner. Madam clerk,
[15:10] can you please call the role to amend item number 31 uh to reflect the removal
[15:15] of first workers? >> Phillips.
[15:18] » Yes. H. >> Yeah. Yes.
[15:22] » Wilson. >> Yes.
[15:23] » Tony. >> Yes.
[15:26] » Williams. >> Yes.
[15:28] » Yes.
[15:32] » Are there any more questions on items 121 through 31?
[15:36] » No. But I I would like to thank everybody for sending me their answers
[15:40] to the questions today. That is very helpful.
[15:43] » Thank you. All the women. >> Uh number nine is a duplicate.
[15:51] Matt, can you uh Item number nine was already passed on at the Tuesday
[15:55] meeting. >> Do Do you want us to We got to remove
[15:59] this one because it was passed already. Is it the same motion or
[16:05] » Yes, Mayor. That is the same one that was on the 8:25 agenda
[16:09] » and that was >> So, we can just remove this.
[16:12] » That would be correct. Is there a motion to remove item nine
[16:15] from the agenda? >> So move.
[16:17] » Second. >> Second. Uh motion made by Alderwoman
[16:21] Phillips. Second by Alderwoman Wilson to remove item nine from the agenda.
[16:27] » Uh Madame Clerk, can you please call the role?
[16:32] » Nelson. Phillips. >> Yes. Harvey.
[16:35] » Yes. >> Yes.
[16:37] » Tilman. >> Yes.
[16:39] » Williams. >> Yes.
[16:40] » Gardner, >> yes.
[16:44] Roll call voters. Seven voting yes, zero voting no, zero voting present. Uh the
[16:48] item number nine is removed. So if uh action to be taken will be on item 1
[16:54] through 8 and 10 through 31 as amended. >> You know, I'm sorry, mayor. I never I
[17:00] don't recall receiving a response for 10 items 10 and 11.
[17:06] » You want to remove those? If we can table 10 and 11 until Ansel and Glint
[17:11] responds. >> Motion made by Alderwoman Wilson to
[17:15] table items 10 and 11. Is there a second?
[17:19] » Second. >> Second made by Alderwoman Phillips.
[17:23] Madame clerk, can you please call a role on the removal of item or tableabling of
[17:28] items 10 and 11? >> Phillips.
[17:31] » Yes. >> Yes.
[17:34] » Wilson, >> yes. Yes.
[17:37] » Williams. >> Yes.
[17:38] » Garner. >> Yes.
[17:44] » Thank you everyone. The motion uh passes 7 Z voting present. Uh items. So the
[17:50] council will take actions on items 1 through 8 and 12 through 31 as amended.
[17:56] Alman Williams. Do you have a motion for those items?
[17:59] » So move. >> Alman Williams motions to approve items
[18:03] 1 through 8. >> Second. and then 12 through 31. Second
[18:06] by Alderwoman Harvey. >> Madam clerk, can you please call a role
[18:11] on items 1 through 8 and then 12 through 31?
[18:16] » Harvey, >> yes.
[18:17] » Wilson, >> yes.
[18:20] » Yes. >> Williams,
[18:22] » yes. >> Yes.
[18:24] » Phillips, >> yes. Roll call. Vot seven voting yes.
[18:28] Zero voting no. Zero voting present. Uh items 1 through 8 and then 12 through 31
[18:34] as passed as presented. Item 13 on the agenda are reports of
[18:39] standing committees. Um finance Alderman Williams.
[18:44] » No reports this. >> Thank you. Alman public safety alderman
[18:48] Gardner. Uh
[18:51] I just want to just give a kudos to uh our fire department. on last week I had
[18:56] a chance to uh attend their training that was offered through the University
[19:01] of Chicago for the helicopter training. Um it was a really nice training and uh
[19:06] I just want to commend our men and women of our fire department for furthering
[19:10] their uh expertise and profession. Thank you for inviting me.
[19:16] » Thank you alderman. And now we also have uh in the audience we have our deputy
[19:23] chief uh Vega. We have our water superintendent Jerry Ruffa. We have our
[19:29] police chief Kevin Kage. And we have our just recently mentioned fire chief Glenn
[19:35] Bcker. Uh we also have in the back uh who am I missing?
[19:42] We have our city administrator. We also have Cleo Jones here. We have Scott
[19:46] Nema, our deputy commissioner and and our director building and zoning
[19:53] director Cheryl Tman. You're hiding in the back. Director, I couldn't see you
[19:57] with the line of sight. Josh Brown, >> Commissioner Brown.
[20:03] » In the back with the fluorescent uh sweatshirt is Josh Brown, our deputy
[20:10] commissioner. Uh public utilities, Alderwoman
[20:13] Phillips. Thank you, mayor. Excuse me. With the recent storms that we have been
[20:20] having, um comment would just like to remind the residents that when reporting
[20:26] outages, please call 1-800 Edison and that's 1 8003347661.
[20:35] Also, also, I'm sorry, our Spanish speaking customers may call 1-80095
[20:43] LUS
[20:46] and you can always visit commed.com. Thank you.
[20:50] » Thank you, Alderwoman. Uh, ordinance, ordinance and resolutions, Alderman
[20:56] Telman. >> Uh, no report.
[21:00] » Thank you, Alderman. Health, Education, and Welfare. Alderwoman Wilson.
[21:04] » Thank you. Um, on September 3rd, I will represent uh Ka
[21:11] City's Health Education and Welfare uh committee as well as the Cayman City
[21:16] Domestic Violence Task Force, the Tomorrow's Youth Foundation, and um in
[21:22] partnership with Allin uh domestic violence task force research
[21:28] group uh in and in presenting to the Illinois Supreme Court for the rules
[21:35] committee for changes to uh rule for section 2607 rule 9006. When it
[21:43] comes to how lawyers um are qualified
[21:49] uh and judges are qualified to uh make decisions for children uh of domestic
[21:57] violence uh households. um and for them to understand that
[22:04] parental disagreements are normal. However, domestic abuse is different
[22:09] from a parental disagreement and that that these lawyers have a tremendous
[22:14] responsibility to the safety of these children. Um so we will be there. If
[22:20] there are any organizations in Cay City that would also like to um be part or
[22:25] have uh a messaging in the presentation, please contact me at 7085864990.
[22:34] Thank you. >> Thank you all. Permits and licensing
[22:39] alwoman Harvey. >> Um thank you mayor. No report at this
[22:42] time. >> Thank you all public works. Alderwoman
[22:46] Nelson. >> Good evening everyone. Um, I just wanted
[22:50] to take the moment or a moment to talk about the previous storms that we've
[22:54] had. I want to thank building and zoning department. I would like to thank public
[23:00] works even though that we're short and the water department. We're short, but
[23:04] they're still out there trying to handle all of the uh issues and the concerns
[23:08] that are going on. I want to thank all of the residents for being patient,
[23:12] especially in the sixth ward. They will do their rounds to pick up the remaining
[23:17] debris and then we're going to address the alleys. After public work and works
[23:22] and myself along with the team, they put together address the alleys. We're going
[23:26] to have to begin to hold residents accountable because we're getting a lot
[23:30] of calls in regards to the sewers not being cleaned. That process has began
[23:35] again and um look forward to seeing them in your alley. But everybody has to have
[23:41] to be held accountable. We have certain individuals on some of the blocks that
[23:45] will not cut their uh own trees or take care of their own area. We can't just
[23:51] hold one side accountable. So, we're going to be knocking on doors. We're
[23:55] going to have a meeting so we can educate the residents on what the
[23:59] ordinance what the ordinances are and what it is that they need to be aware of
[24:05] on their property. We will also try to come up with a program to assist the
[24:10] senior residents. So, we just want to again just say thank you to public
[24:14] public works and thank you for residents being patient and thank you for
[24:18] everybody's hand being on deck. That's all I have.
[24:21] » Thank you, Alderwoman. City council reports
[24:26] all Phillips.
[24:32] » Good evening. Um, I would just like to say,
[24:38] sorry, I thought I had it on again. Good evening everyone again. And I would just
[24:44] like to say that if you have any concerns or issues within the seventh
[24:49] ward, please feel free to call me 7088918197
[24:55] or email me at m phillips@calcity.org. And please allow me time to get back to
[25:02] you. And being that we will not have another meeting before Labor Day, I
[25:09] would just like to wish everyone a safe and
[25:13] happy Labor Day. That's all. >> Thank you, Aldwoman. Sixth W council
[25:19] report, Alderwoman Nelson. >> No, that's it.
[25:24] » Thank you, Aldwoman. Fifth W report, Alderman Gardner.
[25:28] » Thank you, Mayor. Just want to continue to uh encourage the residents to contact
[25:32] my office with any issues or concerns. 7088918195.
[25:37] I would like to thank all of the volunteers that came out last week to
[25:41] Lincoln's back to school bash. Um I was there on the first day of school. School
[25:46] uh the first day of school was a success. Um I'm looking forward to an
[25:50] exciting school year. my son attends that school and so um I'm just hopeful
[25:55] and we're praying for all of our students that went back to school and
[25:57] returned to the classrooms uh on last week. Um lastly um again if you need any
[26:04] resources contact my office 708 uh 8918195.
[26:09] Thank you and I wish you guys a happy Labor Day.
[26:12] » Thank you alderman fourth ward alderman. Thank you mayor. Very quickly first of
[26:19] God makes all things possible. Uh want to let the residents know that there is
[26:22] no meeting in September for the third and fourth ward. The next meeting will
[26:27] be October 5th at the Cal City Library at 6:30 p.m. Uh lastly, call for issues,
[26:35] concerns, 708212240 or 708918194.
[26:41] Thank you. >> Thank you, Alman. Third war, Alderman
[26:44] Tilman. Uh thank you, Mayor. I would just like to um publicly thank public
[26:49] works for addressing some of those cleanup issues that um you know I
[26:53] emailed to you and some other folks emailed to you. Um we know that it's a
[26:57] lot. We know that it's consistent, but uh we do appreciate that. And to the
[27:02] residents that are still asking, there's still some followup and some other
[27:06] things that has to be done and I assure you we are on top of it. Uh if you all
[27:10] have any questions for my office, just give me a call 708891-8193.
[27:15] Thank you. Thank you, Alderman. Second word, Alman Wilson.
[27:19] » Thank you. Uh, second W. Should you need me, call me or text me 708-5864990.
[27:26] You may email me at mwilson. No, at Monae M.
[27:33] Monae at alderwomanwilson.com. That's Monaewoman Wilwilson.com. I would
[27:39] like to uh piggyback off uh my colleagues by thanking public works um
[27:44] ESDA uh the fire department, police department for the work that has been
[27:50] done uh throughout uh the backto-back storms. Um thank you Director Tilman for
[27:57] always um treating our customers with courtesy and grace. Um it is appreciated
[28:05] uh for going above and beyond. Um that goes not that is noticed. Um so we we
[28:12] don't always um announce or say thank you out loud but I
[28:18] want to make sure that you understand we appreciate you. Um
[28:24] Came City Chargers this weekend is the home opener. Uh
[28:30] Hammond Indiana has once again opened up their doors to the Cal City Chargers. We
[28:36] are in talks with our own school district to find out why the children
[28:40] who live here, pay taxes here, cannot use the fields here.
[28:46] Um those who have contacted my office about walking on the track at TF North,
[28:53] um that is something that we will ask that school board, but we also encourage
[28:59] you to go to school board meetings because you elect those folks who
[29:03] utilize your tax dollars.
[29:08] I think that's all I have. It's so much going on in my head, but um I do want to
[29:15] say that Director Thomas gave me a list for sidewalks. So, we do have that. I'll
[29:20] be adding to that. Um I do see that some of the sidewalks that are on the list
[29:25] are from 2024. So, we are moving in a we're moving. I
[29:31] don't know if it's in fact if it's not rapidly, but we are moving. Um, if you
[29:36] have a sidewalk that needs to be reviewed or looked at for repair, please
[29:40] contact my office via cell phone, text, or email. Uh, thank you. That's all I
[29:46] have. >> Thank you, Alderoman. I think that was
[29:48] the shortest. It's been a long week.
[29:52] » Yeah. Don't remind before she come back with something.
[29:56] It's been a long week. >> First W all the women.
[29:59] » Good evening, First W residents. Um, I want to say continue to reach out to me
[30:05] at 7088918198
[30:08] or sarvey at caydcity.org as you all have been doing. I also would
[30:14] like to uh wish everyone a a happy Labor Day. But I too would like to give some
[30:20] kudos to our public works department. I see that they were out working hard this
[30:24] morning in the first board cutting down trees. So I want to thank you all for
[30:28] your continued hard work. Um, I know that there's a lot more that needs to be
[30:33] done, but like my colleague said, the residents, please just be patient. We
[30:38] are working as quickly and as fast, but most importantly, as safely as as they
[30:43] can. So, thank you. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Alderwoman.
[30:48] Well, there being no further business to come before the city council. Is that my
[30:53] motion to adjourn? Motion made by Alderwoman Harvey and second by
[30:58] Alderwoman Wilson to adjourn the meeting at 6:51 p.m. All in favor? Meeting
[31:04] adjourned at 6:51 p.m. >> Comes a great meeting, guys.