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uh 605.
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But
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>> have the minutes recognized that
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Kerianne was duly elected appropriately
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by the voters at the time and that
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subsequent acts have created this
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incompatibility with office and then you
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can accept her. It's
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>> taking attendance. We have Brian. No.
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John, yes. Dane Collins, no. Dlinsky
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is remote.
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S is here.
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No, Stone. Yes. Yes. And Harry
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Sandel is a yes.
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One, two, three, four, five.
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Six.
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» Who's that?
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>> This is Jim Swift.
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>> Yeah. Tell him to uh give us call back
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and five minutes.
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>> We'll call him. Hello, Jim.
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All right. So, we have a call.
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>> We're just getting we're just getting
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started with the meeting. We got a few
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things to take care of and then when
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it's your when we get to the candidates,
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I'll give you a call right back.
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>> Okay. Yeah, sure. Thank you.
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>> Um,
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first order of business is to approve
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the minutes from January 31.
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I'm going to take you under other
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business.
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Okay.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Hey, approve minutes. January 31.
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Got a motion to accept minutes.
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>> Second.
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>> Any comments?
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All those in favor?
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>> Do a roll call.
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>> Oh, I got Oh, we got Mr. Duplinsky.
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Sorry. Remote. So,
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>> if you agree that um we're going to have
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uh remote to u
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allow remote members to vote.
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» Well, they they can vote anyway. You
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just have to do a roll call vote,
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>> right?
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>> All right. So, then we're going to do
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we're just going to do a roll call on
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all of our votes tonight.
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay.
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>> All right. This is on the minutes. Mr.
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Berseron.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Duplinsky.
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>> Yes.
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>> Thank you. Sal. Yes. Mr. Reese.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Stone.
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>> Yes.
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>> Sand Del.
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>> Yes.
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>> Thank you. Okay. Next door to
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businesses. Uh, election of officers. We
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have three officers. We have a
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president.
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We have a vice or we have a chair.
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Excuse me. We have a vice chair.
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And we have a secretary.
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First we'll replace the current version
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of that which is Persia
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Reese
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Persia. Sorry
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>> and Reese.
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Okay. Accept any motions for the chair.
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Anybody want to
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>> I move the existing slate.
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>> You move the entire slate.
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>> Right.
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>> Do I have a second on that?
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>> Yes. Okay. Any discussion on that?
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All those in favor
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roll call. Excuse me. Okay. John,
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>> yes.
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Tom,
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>> yes.
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>> Percy, yes. Reese,
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>> yes.
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Stone,
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>> yes.
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>> Dandel,
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>> yes.
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>> Thank you very much. We have a new set
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of
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next order of business. Representative
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to the CIP committee last year was
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Persia. have any
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nominations for that? Anybody?
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>> I nominate Percy.
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» All right. Any discussion about that?
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>> Great job. Thank you. Keep it up.
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[clears throat]
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>> Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that, Billy.
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I do have um All right. Roll call on
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that. Mr. Berseron,
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>> yes.
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>> Mr. Duplinsky,
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>> yes.
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>> Percy abstains. Reese?
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>> Yes.
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>> Stone?
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>> Yes.
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>> Sandell?
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>> Yep.
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Okay.
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Uh, just generally can meeting our
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meeting schedules. Can we all do
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Wednesdays again? That okay? I I Well,
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>> Shane, it's not a
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>> I have a conflict on this.
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>> Well, no, we finished the year on
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Wednesdays.
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>> Did you?
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>> Yes, we did.
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>> Not in my world. [laughter]
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>> First Wednesday of the month, I have a
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conflict.
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>> Okay. So, let's do the second and the
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fourth.
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How's that? That works for you. That
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works for me.
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>> Anybody have any problems with the
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second and fourth Wednesday of the month
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when we get around to starting them
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sometime in God knows when? [laughter]
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>> September, right?
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>> Way probably, you know, August at least.
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Maybe September. Aren't you going to be
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living in town by now?
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[laughter]
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>> I already bought all the vacant land
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around the lake. So,
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>> he knows that there's an influx of
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people. All right. So
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all right that is okay. Is that okay
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everybody with that everybody? All
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right.
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» So same as the board.
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>> Yeah. Yes.
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>> Not that it matters but it's okay with
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me by the way. [laughter]
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» Come. You're paid.
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>> No conflict. You be
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>> you are invaluable.
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>> I'm a scrier. We are nothing.
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>> Exactly. [laughter] Before we do that,
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do we know if Sadi is doing anything
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whiteboard wise on second important?
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>> That's Tuesday. I don't know if there's
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other stuff. The meetings are Tuesdays.
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>> The people who are absent, they tell us
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we got a problem. In which case, we got
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to reconsider.
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>> Yeah, we can reconsider. Get a answer.
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But for now, let's just put that down,
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not hard stone.
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>> Exactly. Yeah.
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>> Okay.
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>> Everything we do, we can do.
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>> Okay. The uh next order of business is
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uh try to fill the open
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position that we have coming up.
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>> Maybe we should first have an open
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position. I guess
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do you have something to say to us?
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>> I need to resign from the budget
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committee.
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>> Oh,
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okay. And the reason for that would be
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personal
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>> personal
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Well, she's incompatible with ser as a
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function of statute.
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>> She's she now has a job as the finance
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director of the town. So, I get that
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she's ineligible in that context.
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All right. So, we will have to
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gracefully accept your resignation.
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Sorry to hear that out. Jack.
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Yes. Next, we have
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candidates. Any are there any candidates
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to be uh considered here? We have one uh
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Mr. Swift.
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Ellie, are you going to be in the
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>> Yeah, but I was just wondering, do you
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need to do your redo your quorum thing
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first?
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» No. No. Okay. All right.
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>> We open the meeting with the quorum and
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>> Okay. All right. That's fine. Okay.
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>> Walked out.
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>> No. A couple people asked me to put my
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name in. So, I don't know if you want me
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or not. But,
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>> well, I think
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>> if you if you don't want me to tell you
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what to do, then you don't want me
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because I have a knowit all, you know,
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and I do know the law. So, but nobody
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else here has any training but me as far
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as I know except for Jack.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, if you want me to go through, I can
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tell you my whole life story. My
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>> You don't need your life story. I think
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we you you've already given us a really
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good reason why we would want you on the
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committee.
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>> Thank you. Is there anything else you
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would like to say?
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>> I'll just say I'm a I'm a nonpracticing
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CPA. I have a doctorate in finance,
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economics, and math. I have 21 years of
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experience on the budget committee of
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the town budget committee. I have eight
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years experience on the school budget
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committee and more than eight years as
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cemetery trustee.
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So,
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>> I've worked as a college professor and a
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bunch of other things.
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>> Impressive. Anybody have any questions
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for Miss Davis?
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All right. We do have one other
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candidate. Um, but before we get him,
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let me uh read his uh [clears throat]
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who he is.
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Got a blur for him.
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name is James Smith. He lives on N
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Swift. He lives on 94 Peninsula Road.
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And
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he's a he's been an attorney with the
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law firm of Langro Berry Wool
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of Mberry in Burlington, Vermont for the
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last 44 years. His practice includes
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litigation, estate planning, real
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estate, and business transactions.
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He served as managing partner of the
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firm for 20 years. He's served on
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numerous boards of charitable
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organizations including Henry S Museum,
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middlebury Amateur Hockey Association,
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Mbury Cemetery Association, Addison
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County United Way, Arrow Streets Arts
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LLC, Milbury Middlebury Community House,
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Congregation Church of Mbury, North
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Chapel Universalist Society, and various
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others. He's been a permanent resident
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of can since April of 25 and is retiring
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from his firm this summer.
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So that's gentleman.
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>> What's his name again, please?
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>> James W. Swift and the firm of Langrock
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Berry and Middlebury
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>> and the position
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that we're talking about here.
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>> Oh, this is the uh to replace the
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recently resigned uh position position.
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>> Pleasure committee member. budget
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committee memb
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we have the existing budget committee
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has is has the authority to appoint
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somebody and then they serve until the
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next town meeting they just serve until
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the balance of the year till the next
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meeting
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>> and then they would have to have
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[clears throat] to be elected
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>> do any of us know this gentleman
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>> yes
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>> I think Tom knows. I I know him a little
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bit, but Tom knows him the most.
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>> Yeah. [clears throat]
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>> Hey, Ellie, I have a question for you.
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After the uh we interview this
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gentleman, would you be willing to leave
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the room so we can discuss it without
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you in the room?
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>> No, we have to do it in public.
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>> Well, I don't have to. Um I believe that
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uh
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I believe you can help me out with this
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because you know all the rules.
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>> Yeah. There's something called 91-8.3
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non-public sessions and it applies to
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all public bodies.
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Um says you shall not meet except for
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one of the purposes in p in non-public
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session except for one of the purposes
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set out in paragraph two. One of those items is item C. matters
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which if discussed in public would
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likely affect adversely the reputation
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of any person other than member of the
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public body itself unless such person
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requests an open meeting.
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>> I'm requesting an open meeting.
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>> Okay, that's fine. We can do that.
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>> But I'm already an elected official. So
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>> I'm sorry.
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>> I said I'm already an elected official.
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So I think whatever I do should be
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public.
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>> That's fine. That's why I'm asking. We
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can't do it. We have the authority.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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>> Okay. I guess I've never had it done
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that way.
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>> I know, but I did my homework.
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>> Okay.
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All right. So, let's get uh Mr.
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Swift on the phone and see what he's got
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to say.
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» Here is do the best. I got it out as
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loud as I can. Okay. I'll put on
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speaker. Yeah. Good idea.
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Hi, this is Jim.
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>> Hi, Jim. It's Michael Reese here.
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>> Hey, Michael.
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>> Okay, so um I guess we're gonna have You
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can't get on team, so we're gonna we'll
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do it this way as best we can. Uh S, our
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chairperson, just read uh your bio for
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everybody.
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>> Yep.
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>> And we have uh five members. We have a
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few absentes absences to today, but we
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have five members of the board here and
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one other candidate also in the room who
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has been on the budget committee before,
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Kelly Davis. She's in the room also
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along with the town the town
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administrator and the finance man.
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>> Y
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>> I don't know. Can everybody hear?
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>> Oh, you're right. And of course our
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minist
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I'm just going to put the phone down and
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I guess we'll invite him to
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>> Yeah. Just if you just like to address
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the group and and you know tell us a
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little about a little bit more about
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yourself and why you're interested in
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the position. All right. Thank you.
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>> Sure. Sure. Well, uh, Chip Swift. Um,
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I'm a lawyer. Uh, been practicing in
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Vermont for 42 years and, uh, retiring
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at, uh, the end of June. Uh, but, uh,
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Diane and I, uh, my wife moved to, uh,
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Kanan about a year ago in April. And um
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uh you know I'm interested in doing my
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civic duty of of uh trying to
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participate in local government and uh
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bring whatever knowledge I have from all
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the various things that I've done um to to help the town. um you know
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[snorts] the things that I've done is
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basically uh managing a 24 attorney
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uh 60 employee um law firm for 20 years
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and u you know fortunately have handed
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off the torch on that been involved in
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lots of uh various boards
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um Madison County United Way etc etc so
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I I'm thinking that uh this be a good
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fit for me as I eased my retirement. So
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that's basically my thoughts.
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>> Okay. Anybody have any questions for Mr.
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Swift?
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» So you went you went through the list of
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his experience items. Yeah.
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>> And there were several municipal things
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there. Could you repeat the municipal
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items or maybe maybe Jim can
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» government? But I have been um involved
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in municipal light things including the
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uh Addison County United Way which uh
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you know for 15 years I was on their
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board uh dealing with uh you know how the money is raised and then
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dispersed and uh evaluating uh proposals
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for dispersement and uh so so I think
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that's valuable for the budget
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committee. Um, I also have been
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I god forbid but but uh sort of the
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chief financial officer for the Mbury
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Cemetery Association where we have a um
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you know endemic of over $750,000
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dealing with the u expenses and and uh
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proposals [snorts] for that. Um so
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things like that is is what I've I've
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been involved in as well as um of course
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uh being managing partner of a firm of
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you know multi-million dollar budget
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know having to deal with contractors and
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it and all that stuff. [snorts] Um, so
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you know, I've been involved in
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budgeting over over uh many of the
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facets of of my career.
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>> Um, I do have another question for you,
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Jim. Um, we uh we will be meeting on
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Wednesdays, the second and fourth
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Wednesdays of the month at 6:00 PM here
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in town. Um,
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>> starting
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end of June is my official retirement
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date.
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>> Yeah. Um but uh we we will start meeting
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somewhere around the middle of September
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official, you know, meetings and that
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will run um all the way through the end
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of January.
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Um so will you be available at those
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times and dates that we're going to be
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meeting efficiently enough to be able to
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participate effectively?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yes. Like I said, um I'll be retiring
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and you know, right now I'm in Mbury. I
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work three days a week in Middbury and
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uh Mondays and Fridays remotely from Kanan. Uh but at the end of June, I
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will be uh stepping down from the firm
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and uh full-time in Kanan. So yeah,
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that's good.
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>> Okay. All right.
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Any other
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question? Sure. For us, I guess are are
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we able to increase the number from 10
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to something else? Not without you know
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some other kind of
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>> why would birth would you want to do
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that
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>> just if we wanted 11 or 12 on the budget
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that's
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>> you have nine now
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>> nice to have an odd number but I think
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nine's quite
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>> well the town statute calls for 10 is
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that correct Ellie
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>> really
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>> no it well nine it calls for nine at
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large number selected numbers and then
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the selectment choose a representative
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>> it's just the
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>> state doesn't count
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>> just like all the other public bodies to
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pick a person that they can't serve then
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they can pick somebody else to take
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their place.
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>> Was that a warrant article?
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>> No, that's in the law.
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>> Stat
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reads 32 again, John.
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>> Okay. [laughter]
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>> Because some towns have less, but it's
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usually a multiple of three. So like
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some towns have three, some towns have
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six. Some towns have only an advisory
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committee. In that case, I think you can
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do whatever you want.
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>> But
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all right. Anything else?
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Uh, okay. So, Jim, you're welcome to
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stay on the line if you like. We're
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going to be discussing voting on this in
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a few seconds here.
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>> Okay.
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>> So, anybody have any thoughts?
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We kind of have a Sophie's choice here
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because we [laughter] we have I would
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say very capable candidate on the phone
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and we have a very capable candidate
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that has served in the past in
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>> and that's why I was asking about 11
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because it would be nice to have them
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both
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>> because I don't think there's a bad
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choice here at all. Yeah.
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[clears throat]
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» Nope.
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>> Um,
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I liked Jim's resume and I liked what he
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had to say and I think
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fresh face would be advantageous. Fresh
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first participant
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sort of expanding the the universe of of
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uh activist
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uh residents in town.
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Tom, you got something you want to say?
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Anything?
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>> Yeah. Uh, so I I basically support uh
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Jim. I've known him actually for more
[19:58]
over three years and interacting with
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him with our community over on Goosebond
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and I, you know, uh, have we've
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interacted and I know his credentials.
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So I I'm supporting I would support Jim.
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Yeah. Can I say one other thing is I
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think
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this is too male dominated. You have no
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elected female members.
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» Okay. We had one she had one. She
[20:32]
resigned.
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Doesn't want to hang out with us. You
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don't know why you do, but that's
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[laughter]
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» But John, you had something
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>> want to say something?
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>> Yeah. Uh just reading the laws RSA 3215.
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Yep.
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>> Budget committee committee cons shall
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consist of three to 12 members at large
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who may be elected or appointed by the
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moderator.
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>> Oh,
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>> as a town or district uh adopting the
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provision of this subdivision shall by
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vote determined. So it says it can be
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greater than what we have now, but the
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town meeting has to do it.
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>> Oh, the town meeting. So it said it says
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the uh
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as the town or district adopting the the
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provision of this subdivision shall vote
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to
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shall vote determined.
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» Can you have an alternate?
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>> You have an alternate John? You know
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>> I'm reading.
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» We did that. We've done that on the
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cemetery trust building.
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I' I've never seen that. Means we should
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have had a warrant article to pick the
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number.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I've never seen that.
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>> You mean the budget committee had to
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have a warrant article to pick the
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number?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Well, that would have been a 1948.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Were you around in 1948?
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>> No.
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You probably didn't see it
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>> before I started the minutes.
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>> We've always had that many. All right.
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>> You can't fix that now.
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>> We can't fix that now. Right.
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[clears throat]
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So,
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>> I don't see any mention of all things.
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>> Okay.
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All right. Any other comments, thoughts,
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quips, or quotes?
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» Well, I hope whatever happens that the
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other candidate would attend continue to
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attend budget committee meetings and you
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know, I mean, in this particular case,
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Ellie comes to the meetings and she's
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been a big help.
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>> In a way, it's almost a a way to expand
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the body without expanding the body.
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>> Well, I haven't been. I only went to one
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this year or two.
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I went to the public hearing.
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>> Move the question.
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>> Okay, let's move the question. Jack
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wants to go home. Go ahead. You have
[22:54]
something else you want to say?
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>> Just let's go.
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» Let's go. Says Mr. Stone. He's not
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dealing well. All right. Let's take a
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vote on this. Uh Mr. Berseron,
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>> vote for Ellie. Ellie,
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Mr. Duplinsky,
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>> Jim Swift,
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» Mr. Reese, I'm gonna say Jim Swift, but
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I don't want Ellie to be mad at me, but
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» Jim Swift.
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>> I can't state how important you are to
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the group. I'm gonna vote for Ellie, but
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that's a three to two for Mr. Swift.
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Well, when I talked to Gold Sale, Mr.
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Swift,
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>> you're now a member of uh I'm sorry.
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Just give me one second. Mr. You've been
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appointed to the budget committee
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training, Mr. Swift.
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>> Okay, that's great.
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>> All right. And uh what I need you to do
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is I need you to send me your email.
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>> I can I will
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>> um And my email is S Perc
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go
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» spelled like it sounds.
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>> Yeah. s p
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i aat.net.
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» But Mike Reese will send it to you.
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>> Mike,
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[laughter]
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>> he's on my email.
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>> Ellie, thank you so much.
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>> I forgot what I was going to say now.
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Oh, I because I for both you and Mike.
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It's nobody else, so I couldn't probably
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wouldn't have bogged it, but um that's
[24:30]
it. That's all I wanted to say. Thank
[24:32]
you.
[24:34]
Okay. [clears throat] Um, okay. Any
[24:38]
other business?
[24:40]
We have any other business?
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>> I I just wanted to ask um we did last
[24:44]
year start on September 18th was so
[24:48]
probably that same uh you're thinking
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we'll be
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>> Well, I need to sit with Jack. Uh we we
[24:53]
don't know whether we will have a
[24:54]
permanent town man town administrator in
[24:57]
place by then. We don't know what's
[24:58]
going to go on.
[24:59]
>> Okay. uh act, you know, uh but I will be
[25:02]
sitting down with Jack and uh we'll
[25:04]
start to work out a schedule of when
[25:06]
people can show up and carry in as well
[25:08]
and figure out what she'll be ready to,
[25:10]
you know, do other little parts and
[25:12]
pieces,
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>> but you know, because
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>> I I might suggest you you you um we can
[25:19]
talk about it.
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>> [clears throat]
[25:22]
>> It might be good to start earlier in the year and and give enough time for
[25:27]
the department heads to come in and and
[25:30]
expend my my recollection from a few
[25:33]
years ago got pretty crowded
[25:35]
schedulewise wise.
[25:39]
>> Well, we did pretty well last year. We
[25:41]
got through it pretty well. I think the
[25:43]
CIP committee wants to get going
[25:45]
earlier.
[25:46]
>> Okay, that's fine, too.
[25:47]
>> Right. And that'll bring the department
[25:48]
heads in for their capital requirements.
[25:51]
Right.
[25:51]
>> Right.
[25:52]
>> And then, you know, whenever you guys
[25:54]
are ready, we can
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>> I mean, we're ready to start. It's
[25:57]
really a question of when the department
[25:59]
heads have all their
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>> focus on perhaps getting information out
[26:03]
to you sooner.
[26:06]
>> I like the
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>> I'm happy to make it less crowded. Yeah.
[26:09]
>> So, we can do shorter meetings,
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>> right?
[26:11]
>> You know, I'm happy to do that, Ellie.
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Well, I just look at the calendar
[26:15]
because of you switching to second and
[26:17]
fourth. You're actually like a week
[26:18]
ahead of
[26:19]
>> Yeah.
[26:19]
>> So, it's the 10th and the TW. You have
[26:21]
two meetings.
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>> The 10th and the 24th is enough.
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>> Yeah. We'll we'll we'll work it out.
[26:28]
>> Okay. Well, I have to come in because
[26:30]
I'm on the cemetery trustee. So, we'll
[26:32]
have to come in, too. So, I kind of I'm
[26:35]
sorry. It would be the 9th and the 23rd.
[26:37]
Sorry.
[26:37]
>> That's all right. Thank you. All right.
[26:40]
So, yeah, we'll do that. Any other
[26:42]
business? I do have one thing that I do
[26:45]
want to talk about quickly and then and
[26:46]
just so you can think start thinking
[26:48]
about it. Um last year at the um public
[26:52]
session of the budget committee, we had
[26:55]
one person show up. We had two um
[27:00]
warrants fail
[27:04]
requirement for the funding of police
[27:06]
cruisers and stuff [snorts] and uh the
[27:09]
town government buildings.
[27:11]
And I think part of that um was a lack
[27:15]
of information and education to you know
[27:18]
the town basically about what it's
[27:20]
about. So, I would like us to start to
[27:22]
think about whether or not I mean I'll
[27:24]
do it myself if I have to, but um I
[27:27]
would like to go out and go out and
[27:29]
after we've completed the uh budget have a proposed budget and
[27:34]
Lawrence, I would like to some of the
[27:37]
groups in town and the Lions Club and
[27:41]
any other ones that have, you know,
[27:43]
sufficient enough people that we can
[27:44]
visit with and talk to them about budget
[27:46]
because if we wait for them to come to
[27:48]
us, they're not going to come to us.
[27:50]
So, I would like to, you know, see if we
[27:52]
can start to go out and talk to people
[27:55]
about what the budget is and why it is
[27:58]
what it is and why we're recommending
[28:00]
what we're recommending. So, just put
[28:02]
that in the back of your heads.
[28:04]
I'll see if we can get somebody on. Um,
[28:07]
any other
[28:09]
>> the other thing is to consider moving
[28:12]
things from warrant articles into the
[28:14]
main budget if it's a critical item that
[28:16]
you really want.
[28:17]
>> Yeah. stick it in the main budget
[28:19]
because they may have a higher
[28:20]
probability of passing and this the
[28:23]
trouble with building account is you're
[28:25]
not really telling them what they what
[28:27]
you're going to use it for.
[28:28]
>> That's what I'm getting at.
[28:29]
>> Yeah. Great.
[28:30]
>> That's that is the the big give us a
[28:32]
slush fund. No, you can't have
[28:33]
>> we don't want a slush fund. We already
[28:35]
have a slush fund called the the
[28:36]
community center capital reserve which
[28:39]
by the way it's got about 270 grand in
[28:41]
it. Can't even get at it because it's
[28:44]
specific purpose thing. Well, it was
[28:46]
also set up improperly.
[28:47]
>> Yeah, of course.
[28:48]
>> The money the money didn't go where
[28:50]
supposed to.
[28:52]
>> All right. Well, that's good. So,
[28:53]
everybody wants to go home. Uh, I'll
[28:55]
entertain a motion to adjourn.
[28:57]
>> So, move.
[28:58]
>> Second.
[28:59]
>> All those in favor?
[29:00]
>> I thank you very much.
[29:02]
>> Roll call.
[29:03]
>> Oh, jeez. Sorry, Mr. Beron.
[29:06]
>> Yes.
[29:06]
>> Mr. Dlinsky,
[29:08]
>> yes.
[29:09]
>> Percy, yes. Reese,
[29:11]
>> yes. Stone,
[29:12]
>> yes.
[29:12]
>> Uh, that's it. Swift and Mr. Swift
[29:16]
>> actually need to say yes.
[29:18]
>> He has to get sworn in too.
[29:20]
>> Yeah, we'll get beauty.
[29:24]
>> [clears throat]