[0:00] Relations,

[0:02] players, we just do the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands for the Nation of Nicaragd, Newdiceville, liberty and justice are all.

[0:17] Thank you for everyone coming, today. Kind of first call on purpose, the public floor if anyone might be building it before the form of the UNO learned.

[0:26] I don't know.

[0:27] We're

[0:31] all looking at you, Jay.

[0:34] You wait a minute.

[0:37] I'm good.

[0:40] All right.

[0:41] Now we go to approval minutes.

[0:45] Some move.

[0:49] Sector.

[0:49] Were there any changes?

[0:51] Yes.

[0:51] We can't quit with that one.

[0:56] Yeah.

[0:57] Yeah.

[0:57] I kind of quit with that one.

[1:00] All right.

[1:01] So let's move on to new topics for discussion.

[1:03] All right.

[1:03] We have to go to the second and the vote.

[1:05] Oh, didn't my set?

[1:06] What do you say?

[1:09] So one of you guys.

[1:10] The second.

[1:10] because you're part of a committee.

[1:12] I'll second it.

[1:13] You're now in the official register.

[1:15] You're nice.

[1:19] All in favor?

[1:21] Aye.

[1:23] All calls?

[1:25] So move.

[1:27] All right.

[1:27] Now we move on to new topics for discussion and party.

[1:31] This is my first bet.

[1:34] There's the talent of candidate with comprehensive housing,

[1:37] economic profile for my favorite kind of housing assessments.

[1:40] All right, so if it's for the committee, I did upload some of our last meeting,

[1:47] the housing report, and I updated the question.

[1:52] John, can these guys get on the London's Valuencing Civic Plus members that are...

[1:59] Yes.

[2:00] Yeah, the public floor, or what?

[2:02] Send the directions.

[2:03] Okay, so I don't help you guys just because he's a test of that you're not going to be

[2:08] able to see.

[2:14] so it's easy to go on and just click on it so yeah the access to all the stuff

[2:21] that was saying I just didn't read the 278 pages yeah so I mean maybe like

[2:28] three yeah you're seeing a time right anyway I'm sorry yeah so what I did was I took the

[2:36] housing assessments, final report, their presentation that they did to the Supervisors

[2:46] or Supervisors.

[2:48] I did it somewhere near that and that's the report I printed for you guys.

[2:54] Just shows that we're still in the growth area.

[2:59] Some of this stuff is a little outdated.

[3:02] Here's it's from between 2010-2001.

[3:08] So obviously we're a little bit past that, but that's when this housing report was done from.

[3:15] The last time we talked about the needs for housing,

[3:19] there's a report that justifies the competition that we were having.

[3:23] being the economic development group, part of our cats among the comprehensive plan is

[3:30] that it's a housing, and this report goes over some of the needs and where we're short

[3:37] and almost never category where short, so is there any question on that or any further

[3:47] discussion?

[3:55] I guess the only thing I would be not saying concerned because it's not a huge concern.

[4:06] We talked about what are we going to do to try to bring incentivize the builders, the

[4:12] contractors to kind of make the opportunity to build, bring in more housing because obviously

[4:19] that's the problem I think we have that none of the housing and then we get into the conversation

[4:24] about what is considered affordable housing.

[4:27] So, how do we bring in the right builders

[4:32] that will be willing to make those efforts

[4:36] to make the vision come to life

[4:39] that we can actually build some housing that,

[4:42] could it entice people to say,

[4:44] I mean, looking at pharmaceuticals,

[4:46] almost has a third more residence growth than what we have.

[4:51] And since I came from Birmingham, I can start to speak to that.

[4:55] I mean, they had subdivisions that were just starting out.

[4:59] And they were very large ones.

[5:02] But there are in the same boat that I think we are here now with the power issues.

[5:09] We look at our growth note of the uptown area.

[5:12] I don't even like it since the housing bill there.

[5:15] Sarah, I'll talk to you too.

[5:16] I mean, you have a project that you're trying to move forward with

[5:19] lawmakers, which I think would help with our situation, but I would be

[5:24] curious to hear from your FASC at what your challenges are moving forward as

[5:30] well. Getting things approved, the process. Through the town, the state, with like...

[5:36] Through the town. I mean, we would have had our project build 10 years ago.

[5:44] So it's kind of, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, what is your project down,

[5:48] but it could lose that?

[5:49] So we own quite a bit of property behind the fellas from Farmington, Townline, North

[5:54] River, and we for the past probably 10 to 12 years have been working with the town to

[6:00] try to get that plan approved, and it just, we'd move five steps forward and go back, but

[6:08] but I think we're looking at a positive direction now

[6:11] and getting closer,

[6:13] but I think the town could do a better job,

[6:15] not just enticing the right developers,

[6:18] but working with the developers

[6:20] to speed up the process of getting things done.

[6:23] There's a lot of money that goes in on the development side

[6:25] before we even break through out.

[6:28] There's not a lot of upfront costs

[6:30] that myself and my partners have put in

[6:33] that nobody sees on the outside.

[6:37] and you know we're continuing to do it because we want to see it but a lot of

[6:40] people you know they might not have that and if you can't speed it up to the

[6:45] sense to where it makes sense you're gonna lose people you're gonna go in spots

[6:49] where you do kind of develop faster and I think Farmington is a great show of

[6:54] that. Sometimes I would do my property. You wouldn't do Farmington. Well you are in

[6:59] the town of Kevin. We are in the town. So when you bought the property was it

[7:03] zone, right? Or did you have to rezone it? No, it was so it's considered a mixed-use overlay, I believe.

[7:11] So yeah.

[7:14] And her project right now is going to be going to front the town board,

[7:18] or the consideration of being rezone to the project. Yeah. So I'll plan it on.

[7:25] Which I think is, I do agree with her, but I think things are moving more efficiently.

[7:31] I think we're hoping that that moves forward, but, again, I think there's one issue.

[7:39] I think utilities are another, and you've been working on, you haven't seen some trying

[7:46] to make things happen to bring power to our area.

[7:51] I think those are some hurdles.

[7:54] I know that we've changed form base code to try to make things a little bit easier for developers

[8:00] because the comments that we were hearing just like Sarah just mentioned, is there more

[8:06] that we could do? That's what this group is with. And that's what we need to figure out of

[8:11] what can we do. Because ultimately we need housing. And housing will help us with our businesses.

[8:18] Yes. Because people need places to live. Yes. Sarah, you do it on a microcontainer.

[8:25] That's going to be an issue. Yeah. Is it a nice bag or are you mean?

[8:32] They're kind of one thing, but it isn't it isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more power and

[8:37] night sag when they're large and angry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm doing a development of wells

[8:42] or night sag. Okay. We don't have any power issues with that. I think they both got operational

[8:52] issues but different between the two and two, even though it's the same. It's very strange

[8:58] how that whole thing works.

[9:00] Do they upgrade there?

[9:02] I mean, because it usually comes down

[9:03] with some kind of various mission line

[9:04] that they need to have for power.

[9:06] That seems to be the limiting or substations limiting factor.

[9:12] So that they, nice, there must be a head of the curve

[9:14] with updating their grid versus RGN, if you think that's it,

[9:18] or maybe there's just, they have the extra power

[9:20] because there's not enough development

[9:23] where the RGN is stepped out.

[9:25] Yeah.

[9:26] I'm not sure.

[9:27] Right. That's more private.

[9:29] Well, and it may be premature, but I'll just tease it out a little bit. I was in a meeting last week where there's an opportunity that may pop up.

[9:39] Talk to Kristen and Dan and John about this.

[9:43] Where there's new technology that's being considered by this county that will convert our waste and energy.

[9:50] one of the sites they're looking at is right in the area of where we want to

[9:56] develop our housing units and they can actually provide power off the off of

[10:03] the main grid in their own sub-stage. And so there's more to follow on that as

[10:10] far as you know what's getting traffic impact and environmental impact, although they

[10:15] say that the technology bit has been in existence and

[10:20] been being refined in Europe for 50 years. And so the bugs that are all been worked out supposedly,

[10:27] but the county is interested in this as possible that we could get the site because we're on

[10:32] a real spur or that that helps could get it because either on a real spur and be either an economic

[10:40] developed for the county and the chairman of the board, both themselves, but I don't get

[10:45] that. So ultimately that from the power side of things, can you tell us about it like

[10:53] a nutshell?

[10:53] Yeah, the nutshell is the waste comes in, they take all the recycling and they resell recycling

[10:59] and the parts that aren't recycled, they have the technology and I'm so far from the

[11:06] that it's a limited oxygen that's in there, but somehow there's steam and limited oxygen

[11:13] somehow allow this stuff to be not insigrated with smoking a butt, but burn and generate energy.

[11:22] And it's so it will be a landfill essentially.

[11:25] We'll be a landfill, but waste will come in recycling will go be separated and go out and then

[11:33] energy will be this stuff. Burn is not the right term, but it will be converted to energy and steam.

[11:42] It's household waste though. It's not like sewage treatment.

[11:46] They will also be able to handle the sewage treatment stuff that can't go anywhere.

[11:51] The dirty village, whatever.

[11:54] So if the tent county goes forward doing this and if we're lucky enough to

[12:00] We'll do some, this group will do some analysis of whether or not we think it makes sense.

[12:06] I'm looking at all those factors including an intersect with the city about the other day because, you know,

[12:12] if rail cars, because they would, they'd also be able to bring in waste from the outside.

[12:16] So if we go from one rail car on crossing 332 every couple days to 3 or 4 a day,

[12:22] would that be a problem with the city? They're like, it would not be a problem to see.

[12:26] And we need to solve this waste problem that we have as a county, and if we can turn it in energy and

[12:34] houses they can they can actually have a substations would just you know have energy for residential

[12:39] They ideal for them is they would have a factory right next to this waste treatment plant and they were just

[12:45] Directly put the energy into the factory, but we've got housing. So you're not burning it. You know incinerating it

[12:53] There's got to be sort of like a digest or what happens to the root I mean there's got to be part there's got to be some waste and correct

[13:02] Yeah, there's there's three percent waste that residual something

[13:08] Call it yeah, that has to go to something just three percent of which is if you're getting three

[13:14] Rails coming in one by day

[13:19] If you get 100 real cars coming in, go three goes up, maybe three goes up, three goes up.

[13:28] So I'll tell you, if people want to follow up on this, in advance, then I'm just teasing

[13:32] you now because I just been teasing my, but if anybody wants to look up, it's called,

[13:38] because I did a little bit of research and controlled hydrolysis is the name of the process

[13:48] I thought if something that happens to me, I have to ask you to set it up.

[13:54] I realize this is PYRO, LYS.

[14:04] So anyway, could it be an opportunity for us to solve some of our energy aids?

[14:11] and it could be an option for the county to solve its waste and eventually energy needs as well.

[14:20] So this happens, does this cut out nice act or are any bypasses are genuine?

[14:27] They have the opportunity to feed it into the line which does really help or they would build

[14:32] their own power station and evidently there's government funds to build this stuff so they've got money

[14:39] coming up. Is that partially an answer to the Casela situation to longer-term?

[14:45] Yeah I mean you know that's that's part of the reason why this is being pursued. The energy

[14:49] production part of it is just that's oh my god is this too good to be true because they've been

[14:55] I'm looking at all kinds of things, and I'm not being next.

[15:00] Thursday, to review all the options. But it really came out of, what are we going to do with this waste? And then these guys say, well, we can get rid of waste and produce energy, right? Which is what's got it almost seems like it's going to be true to this. But it's been going on here for a year. So anyways, that could be, I couldn't solve our energy part of it. On your question, I'd like to take you back on that. I'm going to look at you as our PR person.

[15:44] So, as we go down this path, I'd like to think of a way for us to be able to communicate

[15:51] the public.

[15:52] if indeed we're able to provide, you know, affordable housing that isn't twisted into people's brains,

[15:59] some people want to jump to, you know, terms like low-income housing or maybe house to go ever.

[16:05] You know, if we go down those paths, we go down this path, but affordable housing does not mean

[16:11] that all of a sudden we've got, you know, those kind of people moving into our neighbor.

[16:16] All right, that we just have a place for people like my daughter who's, you know,

[16:20] It had to go to Rochester by house, I suppose we'd be able to buy else, but, but I think part of it is the communication that we do on

[16:30] She's 31. Using the term work for ourselves. Yeah, I think that's what helps with it. Yeah, and so

[16:39] We're looking at saving for a house and everything like that. So there could be like

[16:43] Started home, but it's expensive. You can word it into it. I think that's it. I think the PR side of it because I just think

[16:50] somebody of the day and the term came up. They immediately jumped to the end. We don't want, you know,

[16:56] like Nimbi, Nimbiria guys. This to the numbers, is he ever saying that's that is primarily through 2020

[17:02] with the numbers? How is this stuff on 46th, both found a candidate go ahead and hope well?

[17:10] That's because I think most of that's in the range that's on the right. It is, and it does help,

[17:15] But it's a small project. Yeah, it really were so far in the mean and I looked at

[17:25] Sarah's project because it's where we've been built. Again, it will only be a small

[17:29] percentage of what we really need. How many units do you guys take?

[17:38] Is that the one

[17:39] that's like 800 units? When that ballpark. No, I think you're thinking of Jeff

[17:44] a place to go to play.

[17:45] I'll put the phone and put the phone in.

[17:46] Yeah.

[17:47] There's a big six.

[17:49] Where's that property?

[17:50] Where's the...

[17:51] I've always wanted to put it, it's...

[17:52] Behind where Blue Gerranas, that's just on the next door to over, kind of, kind of,

[17:56] a stretcher over on there.

[17:57] I'm, I'm...

[17:58] I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm...

[17:59] Click for the pond and then...

[18:00] I'll pop out.

[18:01] I'll pop out.

[18:01] Yeah, I'll pop out.

[18:01] I'll pop out.

[18:02] I'll pop out.

[18:04] I'll pop out.

[18:15] They still seem very big, they might have built 600 units on 100 acres, well it's a mix of

[18:25] apartments, households and, you know, families, right, they should be able to base up to the

[18:34] planners for that, so the no power showed up.

[18:38] But they have been trying to develop that for a lot of years too, that kind of like coincides

[18:44] with ours that this isn't the first time that project's been brought up.

[18:51] If the control, let's just call control here, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, we've built

[19:00] next to Sarah's property, would that be able to come all the way over to Jeff's project

[19:06] or is it isolated for Brad?

[19:08] No, two, two mile rate is, so I don't know how far.

[19:13] Okay.

[19:13] So that's what I was asked to my to my right to say that they would put in the infrastructure within a two

[19:18] mile raise and that would be on the developer. No, that would be on the the company that's

[19:25] doing the control. Yeah, it would have to be on the rails for that would be the only doubt

[19:31] probably the winners that couldn't put it anywhere. Yeah, well, you could put it anywhere except

[19:36] that the rails for would allow waste to come from other places.

[19:43] Trucks would be probably what we

[19:44] would all do in the county, but then every decided, okay, well, we'll also allow, you know,

[19:50] ways to come in from Syracuse, and that would come to the real.

[20:04] Do you have thoughts on the study?

[20:06] Yeah.

[20:08] Any other questions?

[20:10] I was in lines.

[20:13] I mean, I think they're a range of a good point.

[20:16] I mean, the town's got to start being a little more lenient on, you know, redeveloping areas

[20:24] It's so that it can be bested.

[20:27] Where my graduate didn't hope was,

[20:29] we're going over four and a half years on.

[20:31] We're just starting to get to changing

[20:34] and to high-density residential.

[20:37] And I don't, and it's just the snail space

[20:41] and the developers have times of holding costs.

[20:45] I agree with that because there's a lot of

[20:47] right to get through to live or how it's actually.

[20:50] So here in Canada, I think that we're going

[20:53] well at changing our code and allowing some more administrative approvals of

[21:00] self, compared to sending everything to your planning board. But when we're talking

[21:06] these large projects that have to go to town board, have to go to planning board,

[21:11] how do we do that? I've been working with First and First Business and we've been

[21:16] coming up with some strategy. But again, this is where this group is going to be

[21:20] official products to allow us to talk more about, okay, how do we fix these big projects because

[21:28] these big housing projects? How do we allow those for a little faster? At a state level,

[21:36] honestly, you hear the governor talk about, you know, we're doing the swept approvals for a

[21:43] environmental. That's always been a big hold up over the years. And so there's small steps

[21:51] that have been done. Obviously, it doesn't change anything that you guys have dealt with over

[21:55] the last decade. But moving forward, I think that there's a push to try to make these more

[22:01] streamlined. Do you like codify more? So there's less kind of discretionary and like manual review

[22:09] you stuff, because I feel like it's gone the other direction with smaller residential projects

[22:16] and some of the bigger stuff the last few years where the process has gotten longer and

[22:21] shorter.

[22:23] I wonder how much of it can be, like, established structural process and that I have to go

[22:28] through all over here.

[22:29] Yeah, I agree with that comment.

[22:31] And I mean, Chris, did you want to talk about that?

[22:33] Sure.

[22:33] So in the, well probably past three months, we have shortened the time frame between the applications outline and the board meeting you attend approval. So we've taken two weeks to four weeks off that time.

[22:49] So it's speeded up process. The way we've done that is to allow ourselves a little bit more time up front for our internal review and the review of the outside agency.

[23:02] this is some project too, and that's an

[23:05] effort to get paperly buttoned up complete

[23:08] project to present to the board so there's no

[23:11] continuation, most likely about that has

[23:13] really spent things up and we're really

[23:15] not seeing, I mean there's extenuating

[23:19] certain stances but it's very limited, we

[23:22] aren't seeing applications that continue

[23:24] that you know the planning board model and

[23:27] download like these. So I think that's helped a lot with Sarah's projects a little different because

[23:34] really so and so that unfortunately was after. So the town's already to the point of Gordon

[23:39] that's the town board. That tells us to be a pretty much process. I don't know how that's the

[23:47] void of all. Do you read I mean could some of that be accounted for and like does the next use overlay

[23:54] structure and what it accounts for, get revisited as part of the comprehensive plan to refresh stuff, because when we review the

[24:02] grant plan, we will look at all zoning districts and make sure that that's all kind of compliant. Overlay districts also get looked at.

[24:13] But again, some of that comes back from the meetings that the open houses of people that show up and say hey, you want to do these things in this area as a loud.

[24:24] And that's when we started really looking at this zoning districts and making sure we're not going to move any boundaries, but because that's a time board action.

[24:32] but we can definitely want to look at what's a lot of infrastructure because I'm an

[24:37] over-enthusiastic person, but I think that's been a lot of movement trying to make processes

[24:53] more efficient.

[24:54] It is already clarified, so it takes so processing of itself to then change the codes, run

[25:01] through Oregon's committee then from the town for change or local laws but there's been a lot

[25:07] of recognizing the struggles and the need to make things more efficient to a certain point.

[25:16] I mean we obviously can't just open up for a free for all but I mean out town but a 650 unit

[25:24] development. I mean, we got that through the start of, so they brought it, they first

[25:30] brought those plans to the, uh, or September 24th, and it was, we were ready to, uh, well,

[25:39] we're ready to, what's the shovel in the dirt by summer or last year, um, until it was

[25:46] less than a year. Yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was

[25:54] So that there, you know, with the housing needs,

[25:57] there's been a recognition of change in the process.

[26:01] A lot of the processes are having

[26:04] to be notified for years and years and years,

[26:05] so it's no matter just kind of finding those areas

[26:09] figure out what we need to do to change.

[26:11] Still staying within the constraints of other laws

[26:13] that we have to buy by your state law,

[26:16] EEC, seat your requirements, all that.

[26:19] And then trying to do what we can on our end

[26:22] and make process more efficient.

[26:24] The Ministry of Recruals, one thing that we recognize

[26:29] is a way to keep the minor things out of the planning board

[26:32] because it also got to recognize the planning board.

[26:35] This is its own entity, the board appoints the members,

[26:38] but they can't, what the town board can do

[26:40] to fear with plan for activities.

[26:43] Planning board can hold things up

[26:47] and based on how they want to review stuff

[26:50] separate from what the town board are developing off this one so they're

[26:55] the one entity that we can interfere with. I think they also have kind of

[27:00] recognized needs to move things a little quicker through our town project and so

[27:08] so it's getting there it's not going to be a snap and fingers change overnight but

[27:12] where we are you know bringing a directed development in has certainly what they

[27:19] They may go for me to be able to start on a daily basis working in these areas to look

[27:25] at what we need to change, making more efficient and working on every day with the developers

[27:31] and getting their thoughts and then this committee as well is part of that plan, too, that

[27:39] they get thoughts and get ideas and see what we can do to make this better because we can't

[27:45] just, you know, stick with kind of the old thought process of, you know,

[27:52] what houses we want green space because if you don't develop it,

[27:56] your account starts to die and that's housing is a priority for us.

[28:01] It's a town board in hatred recent houses is a priority, but I don't want to lose

[28:07] side of smaller stuff though to like a friend of mine built a turf facility

[28:11] over and right and you know I think to Sarah's point the expense and process ahead of time for

[28:17] people doing smaller scale stuff that are self-funding is cool you know he was explaining the process

[28:25] and he I think it took him two years between rezoning and permitting and stuff and you know he's

[28:30] said I haven't talked to anybody through the process that's opposed to this and everybody seems to

[28:34] want facility like that for benefit of kids in the area but it still takes a lot of money and a lot of

[28:39] I don't understand how things are priority, but I think in terms of other stuff too.

[28:47] It's a good idea for this committee to bring that guy in.

[28:51] What did you face that we might be able to change?

[28:55] Because he's a real world problem, I mean, you guys all got something going on, so we

[29:02] as a Tom Bourd definitely want to hear that.

[29:04] We want to hear problems, you know what I mean?

[29:06] I mean, the good things always get pushed back.

[29:08] I mean, these guys do a great job,

[29:10] but if there's problems, I think we need to know a lot

[29:12] because that's the only way you can change it.

[29:14] I agree because they is awesome

[29:16] that Bob is, and they've set up a committee

[29:19] that with three people have a real experience

[29:22] in this area that are on the committee,

[29:24] but there's other people out there as well.

[29:26] So, what some of the thing about maybe is is there,

[29:29] is there a place for,

[29:31] and I just even have one person come on,

[29:32] but have a, you know, an open session for people that are experiencing real-world stuff now.

[29:39] And where it's, once again, controlled civil dialogue and discussion, no y'all in the

[29:44] screen that about my product are, you know, but just being able to do what you guys have done already

[29:49] and other people have done saying, hey, it's too slow because of this. I'm not being communicated

[29:55] regularly on this, you know, the Cloud Permit.

[30:00] You know, you know, the average joke, you know, whatever the series of things are, that we will all heard, but bringing in even a broader percentage. It's a great idea, but maybe even a broader group of people to represent small projects, housing projects, small business projects, large developments, to kind of have a just around table discussion comment, you know, not a town hall meeting company, but just a, you know, think through and have around this table a dozen people who all are in that, in the throws that are right now.

[30:30] I think that'd be a good idea to get.

[30:32] I remember we've had a change.

[30:33] We've gone so long, you've been in two years, two years.

[30:37] So we had another person in that position

[30:39] that some people had problems with.

[30:43] So we want to get over that, and we are over that.

[30:46] So we're going forward.

[30:47] We brought Dan on board to trust some of these problems

[30:50] and try to expedite and make the process easier on you guys.

[30:54] And certainly less expensive.

[30:56] I mean, that's a big thing for me.

[30:58] We shouldn't be causing you guys out of pocket money for no reason.

[31:02] So even taking this committee back into place again is because we want economic development.

[31:08] Right.

[31:08] And how is the best way to do that?

[31:10] Yeah.

[31:10] And I like the codifying and streamline process of stuff too, because there's always going

[31:14] to be expense with it.

[31:15] But I think the challenge that I've run into these guys have to is if you know how the time

[31:22] what you're getting into makes it a little bit more palatable versus the surprise stuff

[31:27] is, you know, kind of giving us from actual dollars. It's

[31:31] presciting or just the timeline that they see at these. Yeah.

[31:35] I was just with the energy. A surprise for you guys. No, my current

[31:40] surprise is my beautiful trailer sitting in front of Stella's tap.

[31:44] Everybody wants to buy and it's not for sale that I've been trying.

[31:49] And everything keeps changing. With that at one point, you know, we have to

[31:54] widen the road that was never said, you know, I think what you said there about the

[31:59] surprises is just why would we put in a brand new road when that's the road

[32:05] that's going to be used for the future development. It's like the town isn't

[32:08] looking at properties in a hole and you know working what makes best. You put

[32:15] you, yes we understand we have to widen it for the emergency vehicles but there's

[32:20] Some things, it's one thing to widen it,

[32:22] and then do the road after.

[32:25] We're not gonna put down a full million dollar road

[32:28] to have production dealers come and turn it off.

[32:32] We're just trying to put a single family home there

[32:35] that we have a group of people for.

[32:37] So I have the DOT or is that stuff?

[32:40] The town has given us pushback on that.

[32:45] So I agree to your point of bringing people in

[32:48] to see where collectively we can move forward

[32:51] certain things like I agree that you have to have structure and you know approval processes.

[32:58] I all means we don't want just anything going up and happening but there's some things if you want

[33:03] action to actually take place you have to work with the developer you know we're going to put the

[33:09] road and we want I mean I bought half the trailers on that road mobile road because I'm there 24-7

[33:15] that sells, I want good neighbors next to me. I want to clean that area up. So I think

[33:22] that working together really needs to be the ones from with developers personally.

[33:29] Yeah, I've always felt that I need development that I've done is the person's type.

[33:34] Correct. It's not a partnership. It has a serve. It's just a strange feeling when I'm

[33:41] bringing in tax revenue every every step of the way it's a challenge.

[33:48] And that's that's the goal of the world since I'm trying to work at is changing

[33:53] more. I want the partnership. Yeah. I don't want you to deal with the counter

[33:58] bench you know. And it's all tops. Yeah. Hold on. No, and I know it. Yeah. It's a

[34:04] problem everywhere but that's one that I do recognize. Sure. And the goal is be

[34:10] going to work forever. To be able to explain what the town needs and then what you guys need

[34:15] and hopefully meet someone, but there shouldn't be surprised. There shouldn't be to try

[34:21] and have to be like, oh, by the way. Can I, I don't know what the right timing is but I,

[34:29] I think I might have mentioned cloud permit.

[34:34] I'm curious. Do you guys have an option or plan

[34:38] Because I think we're going to see more of it.

[34:41] I think it came up with our, the barmy, put up last fall with the men and

[34:45] nights.

[34:45] And one of the, the code enforcement guys is like, you know, your contractor

[34:49] hasn't logged into cloud for men.

[34:50] I'm like, well, they, they don't, they don't have to, they're like an

[34:57] alternative, some sort of, mediation option, I think for some of those guys.

[35:03] So, Dan, we're doing the way with cloud for men, we're getting a news.

[35:06] uses no, no.

[35:08] So cloud comment, if we're doing an overhaul of the cloud,

[35:11] a bunch of very numbers and other softwares

[35:16] being much more expensive.

[35:17] So we did sit through a bunch of demos of other softwares

[35:22] and we do have one that we like if we truly need to go away

[35:25] from it, but what we've tried to do

[35:27] in the code guys that have been working very diligently

[35:30] at this, it's changing the whole look of cloud comment,

[35:33] trying to make it more user friendly,

[35:35] trying to look at those options of,

[35:37] Okay, for those people that don't have a computer or a hand,

[35:40] what do we do?

[35:42] And a owner sign-off seems to be a big one.

[35:45] So we form now that the owner has been signed,

[35:49] and then we can just upload it into the system.

[35:52] So we're trying to take all those comments,

[35:54] and again, the more comments that we get,

[35:57] the more that we're going to try to do.

[36:00] I have an experience of one with code format.

[36:03] I had to come in here and have Sarah do it.

[36:08] So I really have to be aware of that.

[36:10] But I'm not a dummy, but it just wouldn't accept it.

[36:14] So we're, and that's the big thing that we're trying to do.

[36:16] There's, before it was all, you couldn't do it.

[36:20] We would send you a message.

[36:21] And if you have any issues on the computer sending a message,

[36:25] the text box is not quite the answer we want to give you.

[36:30] So, I've been working with staff that, you know, if they, if they're messaging us, they're calling us to, you know, we're going to stay on the phone and we're going to offer as many options as we've been to walk through it.

[36:42] I've had this conversation with Hayden and Chiefs that had the person up there when people walk in that we, we have the computer in the lobby, we're supposed to be helping them through the process.

[36:54] We don't want it difficult, and that's why we also look at more options in cloud format

[37:00] that uses AI.

[37:02] Basically, we aren't available after hours or something like that.

[37:05] They will help try to get you through step-by-step.

[37:08] There's some guides on there that also show a lot of pictures of step-by-step.

[37:13] We're trying to provide as much information out there.

[37:16] But still, we're going to have those people that just came through.

[37:19] So, and we live in an area where men and nights, I mean, I've used men and nights any number of

[37:24] months.

[37:24] Well, their population is growing right, and they wanted to, and they wanted to work, they

[37:28] wanted to come here to work, they get their insurance and all that so, I mean, we're probably

[37:32] need to have some face to face for those people because they're not going to come into the,

[37:38] at least some of the ones I've had are not going to come in and click and plaque on our computer.

[37:42] They're going to be like, where's the pencil?

[37:44] If you give them a ride, they might go mad.

[37:46] I guess the guys on the line are glad.

[37:48] Yeah, the guys on the top run on my product.

[37:49] They're just swelling.

[37:50] They might like to do that on their own.

[37:52] Well, there's like 40 or something.

[37:54] Yeah.

[37:54] Right.

[37:56] It's getting...

[37:57] I had a crew of men and I had to do all my first moving.

[38:01] And first time they're getting dropped off using wheels.

[38:04] You know, not rubber wheels.

[38:07] Now they're driving.

[38:08] They have cell phones.

[38:09] They're bringing their own equipment.

[38:22] Yeah, and there was first few projects I went through there was that big you guys said the wall of like the plastic holders of packets that would walk through like what each project was and I know there's

[38:36] some digital versions of that, but it was really nice to say, like, oh, hey, you're looking to do this, here's like a three-page back at those names of it.

[38:43] There's a whole name.

[38:44] They all put up, so it's just redid a bunch of guides, so there's a lot for shoes.

[38:49] Oh, nice.

[38:49] There's a bunch of sides.

[38:50] So those are also available for every single project.

[38:57] I think you'd want to go, but I think going through every topic that you can pick on cloud format,

[39:04] and there's a guy. What's needed, what we're looking for, because again, we've listened

[39:10] to the comments of old folks moving. So we put a guy there saying, this is everything.

[39:19] This is everything that we're going to ask for. And if you complete these, you should have

[39:25] no issues. And I actually just reached out to the Rochester building association, I think.

[39:33] to have them review organized, because you have to remember it's code folk and playing folk.

[39:40] We read them and we think, oh, this is great, but we have the knowledge.

[39:44] So I want to get those guides out to some of the builders out there and say, these make sense.

[39:50] Does this walk you through the process? So I'm waiting to hear back on their review of it.

[39:56] But this our goal is we want the commenters in this never-schlocking McLeoderman.

[40:01] to be able to get through it without, without help.

[40:06] But if they do need help,

[40:08] we've also are here for it.

[40:12] Question for you guys, what we're still in the housing stuff.

[40:15] Curious,

[40:18] I think you're going to talk more about

[40:19] the four terminal stuff, but is the housing seasonal

[40:23] vacancy rate thing of concern, or is that typical

[40:26] or do we know, like, that seems like a lot of houses

[40:30] is getting a big challenge, but I mean,

[40:37] I don't think we have any issues with this.

[40:41] Hi, I don't think so, I mean, we'll talk about the short-term rentals here.

[40:47] Well, you might have if we've jumped to that, but I'll go for it.

[40:50] All right, so let's jump to short-term rentals because I think that they can see right

[40:55] impact the housing staff. We talked about short-term rentals. How much is it taking from our staff?

[41:01] available. How many, how many houses are there in the town. So there's on this one hundred

[41:07] and six. It's a total of five houses. Yeah, there's something like five, oh, it's a total

[41:16] house. Yeah, not short from. So it's like a 10%.

[41:21] Yeah, that question. Actually, so many, I'm

[41:25] on some of the day about the number.

[41:28] Do we feel like we totally captured everything?

[41:31] Like somebody's saying, oh no, I go through some,

[41:34] kind of like,

[41:35] short-term rental, kind of gray.

[41:38] I'm very calm.

[41:39] Gray, so it's not just Airbnb, VRBO,

[41:41] but some of these ancillary,

[41:44] I can't remember the new one,

[41:45] but the new ones coming up,

[41:46] where people are doing the thing.

[41:49] I think that those compliance software can be used

[41:53] Those are time for websites and then they're always updating to see what's new.

[41:59] There could be some that we miss that are private websites, like personal private websites.

[42:05] Yeah, that's not a long time. I'm kind of businesses, but they're suddenly brought up a name to me the other day that I'd never even heard of before.

[42:12] I'm fortunate right now, but I'll find out with that name as well.

[42:15] So I'm wondering if there's, because once again, as with a business, if you've got two businesses are successful, there's more businesses that are gonna offer.

[42:22] Well, like our neighbors are just sure, but they use the site that's like the it was only a house. That's a locally owned thing.

[42:29] So we submitted to the board for a different software for post-compliance that looks at more than just the meter 10 that we do like not do.

[42:43] Even when we demoed with them they searched and the numbers were only a little bit higher.

[42:48] I want to say to get up to maybe 110 something like that, but that software also if we find out about the local

[42:59] The local site or something you can tell them and they will add it into their search

[43:06] Yeah, so when we look at our short-term run post and person the one that

[43:11] Talk about this a lot more than I can she ran that program for a long time. So

[43:18] So right now there's 93 listings, a lot of choice between, you know, the old 90s and, like, 150, 150 sets.

[43:27] Out of all of those, there are only five that are not compliant.

[43:33] And it will make one of those, because I don't have that application in there.

[43:40] So we have a very high compliance rate, that's one of the true alternatives.

[43:45] to this. It's something we're constantly monitoring.

[43:50] How much time do you spend on short-term

[43:54] rentals? It depends. I mean I look at probably myself spend maybe an hour a week just looking

[44:03] at our goals and goals software just saying if there's anything new, any complaints that have

[44:09] to come in, which is pretty limited, as far as I may.

[44:14] One of our staff members is now responsible

[44:17] for renewing new applications that come in.

[44:22] Checking to see when current permits are going to expire,

[44:26] working with the applicants to make sure

[44:28] where to go out, see if they're still renting

[44:30] and get moving forward with the application.

[44:32] So these have a little bit more time,

[44:34] but it is a pretty business-wise streamline.

[44:37] How much is it for a permit?

[44:40] It's $300 for a one year permit.

[44:43] Good.

[44:44] When they have to renew, is there an inspection?

[44:47] We do an inspection for every rent level.

[44:49] We didn't use to.

[44:52] But we only used to inspect the larger houses,

[44:55] so if they can have an occupancy greater than 12,

[44:58] then they have to get a special permit.

[45:01] And that's just a way for the town to make sure these larger rentals aren't going to have a negative impact on the neighbors. Those are the only ones that we wouldn't expect. Which didn't really make sense to me. I felt like I'm a fire safety standpoint. I should get into all of it. So we don't expect all of them, but it's usually a pretty quick 15 minute inspection. We're just checking for, you know, fire signatures and some sales.

[45:29] Other than the $300 per minute, is there any other revenue generated for the town?

[45:35] No.

[45:35] We'd like to finish that.

[45:37] I don't know.

[45:38] I'm through and spending all this time.

[45:39] So I say, yes, full time job.

[45:42] Yeah, I'll jump in on this.

[45:43] So we're the only county in the state that is not allowed currently to charge an occupancy tax for

[45:53] children on the county level or on the town level.

[45:56] So if something that we've had discussions about internally here, I had discussions with

[46:03] Pam Helming, our State Senator and Bill Womens, who's the chairman of the Forest Supervisors

[46:14] and Tuesday, one of the committees that I don't sit on, but I attended the meeting because

[46:22] this is not public for me, they approved through committee, which will then get voted on next Thursday, a resolution asking our state senator to go to, it all has to be approved in all of the, for her to carry forward, which is not yet been willing to do, but hopefully this year she is more motivated to do so.

[46:50] carried forward a resolution allowing the county to charge up to a 6% tax. My

[46:59] handshake agreement with Mr. Wilman is that if the county gets 6% we get

[47:05] the cap of that that is generated by R2. Is that sales tax? There should be an

[47:11] occupancy. Same as the hotel's charts. So the folks that we're talking about here

[47:16] where they're doing short-term root posts.

[47:19] You know, Chris and I sat down, Dan and I sat down,

[47:21] had lengthy discussions about it.

[47:23] So, of the 100, the time I was 103, so it's like 106 now.

[47:26] So, I don't know about the other three,

[47:28] but of those 103, two months ago,

[47:32] only three of them were over-occupied.

[47:35] So, those three is like, I used to do out of my house.

[47:39] I ran it up my basement,

[47:40] where I ran it up my room or whatever,

[47:41] but I'm living in the house.

[47:43] The other 100 are second homes.

[47:45] These are people that have enough money that they've got to say to them, there's a business

[47:48] that they're running.

[47:50] But we are not receiving any revenue from this business outside of $300 a year fee.

[47:56] Right?

[47:56] We're not getting an occupancy tax.

[47:58] Nobody is because we've been precluded at the state level.

[48:05] And so everyone's getting, you stay in a hotel anywhere, you stay to Ben Breakfast or

[48:10] there'll be anywhere else in the world you're paying an occupancy tax.

[48:13] So, I see the number I've ran, the numbers I've done, so go back to those hundred, under

[48:20] their second home, second homes, 50 of which are owned by people outside of the state.

[48:26] Because the Zargma is like, oh, we're actually our homeowners.

[48:30] Well, these are not homeowners because they're second homeowners and businesses that are

[48:33] running.

[48:34] And half the people aren't even living in our community.

[48:37] They're owned by people that live in some other state, and it's a business that they're

[48:41] running in our town that we are receiving no outside of our $300, you know what I'm saying?

[48:45] In talking to like a friend that I talked to you about before once the hotel 1892 on Main Street

[48:53] which is really, really short to our rentals and they use saying that they don't want the people

[48:58] wanting the property of aren't paying it, which is so they don't care. Right. And he said generally

[49:03] for them, like people aren't in town for vacation or weddings and you pay it in every hotel you stay at

[49:08] It's like nobody ever objects that at all exactly and the quick numbers I ran and something else with the real numbers

[49:15] I think it's a couple hundred thousand dollars right now the the highest rate

[49:18] I think that we looked at the lowest rate was $100 like for room the highest rate was $3,600 at night

[49:25] And and that's just

[49:29] Somebody's paying $3,600 a night to stay at a to rent a house on the lake

[49:35] They can pay another 3% and it could be like 6% so it should be 5% that we get 3%

[49:40] So in a quarter to 300 grand a year for the town probably, right?

[49:43] This shows the mean daily rate up here and they're recording up there.

[49:46] Mine are 30.

[49:47] Oh yeah, it's honors.

[49:48] Right.

[49:50] And so their direct competition with our hotels, that's what people don't understand.

[49:55] Right, and they're paying the occupancy tag where they're going to tell, and that's that

[49:59] point.

[50:00] Yeah, it is.

[50:02] Yeah.

[50:02] And so we believe that there is momentum currently within the county, but the county has asked us before, and it's not happened, but it's on our radar because once we're, we're, why are we?

[50:18] But it's not far from getting a situation where there's no need.

[50:21] But I think it was very probably, you know,

[50:24] to when people write, or some value, whatever that's there.

[50:27] But for whatever reason, and for whatever reason,

[50:29] our local legislators have not been willing

[50:33] to carry this forward up until this point.

[50:36] And so we're hoping at this point that they're

[50:38] in a different mindset.

[50:40] And so I'm more of falling at, but it's your question

[50:44] was right on, I mean, are we getting any other

[50:48] The answer currently is no, the answer hopefully a year from now will be yes and once again, this is money and the party argument of, well, this is taxing our people whatever new.

[50:59] No, it's taxing our people not to be charging this because we're going to, because generally that the money in other areas is gone towards tourism, whatever drugs, whatever.

[51:10] but we're spending at my own parts.

[51:13] So if we don't have to spend the 200,000,

[51:16] we could actually reduce the tax burden.

[51:19] So we're actually taxing our people,

[51:21] because we're doing this stuff anyway.

[51:23] By not giving us this revenue source,

[51:25] we're actually taxing our people versus taxing our people

[51:28] by putting the tax in place.

[51:29] So I think you just heard what our costs are

[51:32] that we get $300.

[51:33] Do you think we cost us more than $300?

[51:36] So well, once a year, the software to administer all that.

[51:39] So we're negative on this. We're actually cost us money. How much money is up the county? It's got to be a lot

[51:47] Yeah, but some of the word I think it's not every black talk is actually kind of it

[51:51] It's pounds or sound cities can plug in Ontario County

[51:55] Cockpit's attack. It's towns that are not I don't have the ability to play

[51:59] It's crazy, right? Yeah, that makes it even crazier to be so yeah, it's so crazy part of the reason why I

[52:05] We're plus another zone officer, twenty-five-seven buttons, so we're going to have to call

[52:10] out the town more or mine, so everybody's getting passed more for our new position versus

[52:18] allowing the oxygen tax for the person who's actually paying to stay at that location.

[52:22] People like you, it's not a good resume.

[52:25] Right.

[52:26] Well, and like you say, they're running a business in a neighborhood.

[52:28] Yeah, they really are.

[52:30] Yeah, I mean, you've found a warrant and they said they are your second.

[52:34] going for it, because all the short and hard turns are going to be done.

[52:39] You know, if definitely a lot of work that goes into firm rentals,

[52:44] we pay a lot in software too to help us be more efficient.

[52:49] But we're in the negative, because it's a bit of a set.

[52:52] I'm also curious to see how many police calls are called in to short-term rent rates.

[52:59] Is there another difference there?

[53:01] And I would argue if we're not able to pass this, where we're actually able to benefit

[53:07] from the short-term rentals, then we should actually consider, I don't know whether it's

[53:12] everybody considered to pass a moratorium, because if more and more houses are being taken

[53:18] up for this, which, once again, means that we have less inventory, which means the houses

[53:23] are driven up, which means that our employees can't live in our town, and my daughter has

[53:29] live in Rochester then you know we have to look at something else because if we're not getting

[53:34] anything out of it but we're actually having a burden and a penalty to the rest of our community

[53:41] and that's something to be concerned. It's a big big topic and big discussion but you know frankly

[53:48] it's something that a year from now if we don't have success in Albany it's something that

[53:53] that would suit us.

[53:56] That would be absolutely.

[53:58] There are any other questions about the report that we sent out, or whatever, do we answer

[54:01] your question, too?

[54:02] Yeah.

[54:02] Okay.

[54:04] All right.

[54:05] Go back up.

[54:05] We'll skip back up to the comprehensive plan video.

[54:09] All right.

[54:10] So, in the attachments that's out, comprehensive plan, that's another very, very large document.

[54:16] Let's take away the other document.

[54:18] I did plan it to you guys.

[54:20] of what the comprehensive plan says this committee should be focused on.

[54:27] So, I give you the 4-page document.

[54:33] So, just looking at the priorities of this group,

[54:38] supporting development, supporting affordable housing for local workforce.

[54:45] I mean, I didn't really talk about that one enough today, but it's a priority for this group.

[54:55] Then some secondary stuff on page two that is a lead for this group.

[55:01] It is working with the schools and partnerships or skilled trades.

[55:08] as you think that that's a thing that we could probably be looking at, and you look at

[55:14] it at partnering with somebody else at both of these, and when they're having them come

[55:19] in and talk about what they do, and maybe what the talent can help make a good option.

[55:27] This strong out there for the group to think about, and this is really just for the group

[55:33] to think about what directions that you want to go and then you can come in and I can try to

[55:39] facilitate those further coming meetings. The bottom three of page two and you can see those are

[55:48] all led by this group redeveloping of the vacant buildings. What's our plan there? What does that

[55:58] looked like. Because some of the avenue with Baker buildings is

[56:02] saying you should already have power or had power at one point. So

[56:06] power isn't usually when we redevelop a vacant building. A lot

[56:10] of discussion has been. We're big last used to be.

[56:16] Then Plaza. What do we do there? How can we help that? If you have

[56:21] that sense on our.

[56:24] And if we had meetings with them,

[56:26] you know, that they can see.

[56:27] We have not yet.

[56:29] I had some short conversations with them.

[56:34] Obviously, when you have sports in Lano,

[56:36] it's going from that, okay.

[56:38] We, from a code point of view,

[56:40] we've had some issues like,

[56:41] we have a sphere Halloween there

[56:43] and that flies the right now,

[56:44] there's a temporary there.

[56:46] Well, there's some sprinkler issues in there.

[56:49] I mean, the building isn't in the rated shade.

[56:52] That's part of the whole.

[56:54] What do we do?

[56:56] I mean, some of their tenants aren't big tenants.

[57:00] And did you look for a big kind of that could come in there and maybe house a bit.

[57:04] So his is a line line out of town very well.

[57:10] Yeah, it's not.

[57:13] So have we ever done a study or is it pertinent to a study?

[57:17] I picture different places that I've been to in other areas,

[57:21] but I'll just pick on, so Victor on the opposite side of the street of Mull,

[57:26] whereas there's, you know, where Walmart is and where there's like little neighborhood of

[57:31] storage, right? It's been built in in that fashion, where it's like a few nip-a-box, right? And

[57:40] certainly that mini-mull, if you want to call it that, but it's attractive and it's got some good

[57:48] so whatever is busy, right?

[57:52] The mall is busy, that's really busy.

[57:54] That space seems big enough that we could,

[57:57] you know, the developer could do a mini mall right there

[58:01] and totally level the place and build a different place.

[58:05] Right?

[58:06] Sure.

[58:07] Well, maybe we can light it on fires.

[58:11] I think we should do the most common fire out there.

[58:16] But it seems like if I'm a landlord and I own this property, you don't pay taxes on it.

[58:22] And I've got, you know, Rainmore, Flanagan, and I've got Smoke Shop and I've got, you

[58:27] know, to reduction.

[58:29] You can't re-reduction.

[58:30] You can't re-reduction.

[58:30] Well, it's in two months of the year.

[58:31] I've got a spirit of the Halloween or whatever.

[58:33] I'm not making a lot of money on this.

[58:35] So, and I, once again, I know that I'm no developer.

[58:38] I know it's cost a lot of money, I've talked to whatever, spelled me things.

[58:40] But if we had, if we were part of an economic analysis, it could prove that there is enough

[58:48] business within Canada, where the Canada, well, I don't want to become any victor, right?

[58:54] The same token, it's an eye-saur, it's not generating money for the landlord, it's not

[58:59] generating money for a lot of money for the town, if all of a sudden that could be a well-designed

[59:05] a beautiful little neighborhood store complex, whatever.

[59:11] Is that upon us?

[59:12] Is that upon the committee to say, let's spend $10,000 and do a study on behalf of the

[59:18] developer to sell them on the idea that if you invest $10 million, $100 million, I don't

[59:25] have no idea what these things are on us, because our area is driving in our community, it gets

[59:34] all these chores coming in and right now they have to drive to Victor to go to these little

[59:38] boutique restaurants.

[59:41] So I think the first step is maybe we can try to see if we can hit the end of the video

[59:48] with us with our group here.

[59:49] Ask him what was on-term plans and vision over whatever.

[59:52] Especially if we've never had a conversation with him or if he would see if he'd come in

[59:57] And I think it would be this group.

[1:00:00] For those kind of questions. Well, I also think, but if he's an entrepreneur, he made the decision. It's not our place to get involved in business. I know I just talked about race, getting taxes, but there's a direct effect on the community with those specific taxes. This guy made an investment. It should be on him to do that. It shouldn't be the government come in and say, you know, we want to give you money to do it.

[1:00:29] But in my opinion, he should have made that decision when he bought the property.

[1:00:34] It's not on us to tell him what to do with this property.

[1:00:38] If he wants to develop, he should develop.

[1:00:41] That's how I feel.

[1:00:42] I think I know where exactly you're coming from, because I'm not a government guy, right?

[1:00:48] You're not talking about 10 million.

[1:00:50] You're not talking about 10 million.

[1:00:52] That's what you just said.

[1:00:55] And there might be something in between.

[1:00:57] but it's in the process. So does it from the whole closet? No, it's a

[1:01:03] toggle valve and the other thing it's out of front, right? But it isn't

[1:01:07] there in an auto parts in one of those things, so it goes down and down. So no

[1:01:10] shine, you're not getting it. Yeah, drive me not to put it on your

[1:01:13] side. Right now. I want it to be made. Let's look at the

[1:01:28] right now. Right now to build two more stores out front. So, I think, yeah. So, yeah.

[1:01:37] Tom has to do that by their landlord. Well, that's why I want to have the discussion right

[1:01:44] because these are passively sitting here and let the thing just sit there being I start

[1:01:48] to the town and not generate all or do we, is there a place in government? That's a question.

[1:01:53] Is there a place within government and within this committee to somehow at least at a very minimum have a conversation and a very maximum be involved in being part of the solution process?

[1:02:05] Sure.

[1:02:06] Because otherwise, I mean, again, you know, I'm Wilma Wright and you're the town is now.

[1:02:14] The town of Canada, everyone now is building a development directly competing against me.

[1:02:20] I'm not so good with that.

[1:02:22] Right, and I know we're about to be partners

[1:02:24] with Elmer, right?

[1:02:25] We're about to own them all.

[1:02:26] So I mean, there's probably a conflict there.

[1:02:29] So I would just say, hey, you can't pick and choose.

[1:02:33] Like, my biggest competitor is New York State, right?

[1:02:36] When you guys put a show on, a firework show,

[1:02:40] you're directly competitive.

[1:02:41] Can't do anything about that.

[1:02:43] But when the city of Rochester puts a free music show on,

[1:02:46] it's directly convening against me.

[1:02:48] It's coming from the state.

[1:02:49] And now we got to just choose and pick and choose like is the government

[1:02:54] Picking and choosing what business is to succeed and as an entrepreneur who's biggest competitors here state kind of sucks

[1:03:00] And so my thing is like among Wilmer and I'm pissed off. You're really you're literally going to steal my

[1:03:08] Potential, you know, customers. I think the first step which is a game

[1:03:12] especially the day I had when I first came and I had

[1:03:16] great miscommunities really just figure out where we cover

[1:03:20] vacant locations and bring in the owners in and figure

[1:03:25] find out what their challenges are.

[1:03:28] You know, fill in that.

[1:03:29] And if it has, if any of the challenges are

[1:03:31] given to town procedures or processes, then that's

[1:03:36] where we would be involved.

[1:03:39] There.

[1:03:39] We're trying to clear any curve around there are any if town is the cause for these areas not to go war if it's

[1:03:47] And if it ties into the house and the shoot this

[1:03:50] This is won't come in if there's no housing for their

[1:03:54] Bullies or are they they're not going to get this whole that whole area is a whole

[1:03:59] At all the required that think that a partner here could cope well

[1:04:03] Because think it would also be difficult. I'm not a business person or a business

[1:04:07] But I'm looking for a location and I see an area with a ton of empty buildings probably not where I'm choosing for my business

[1:04:16] You know, because that whole old Walmart plaza. I think the huge ice work. I was soon running for running on the end

[1:04:24] Yeah, they're driving down their own like empty empty empty empty empty. No, I'll go to victory

[1:04:30] No, that's the town. That's that's us with the whole ready what running to us

[1:04:37] 10 is the only thing east of it is so water becomes kind of nice, so no new town home

[1:04:47] behind.

[1:04:50] Well, that's what I was saying earlier, so it's a creek boat or a creek site or whatever

[1:04:53] the little section is down in Canada, and then we're about to stream our farm stone sub

[1:04:59] about it all, stuff over there is so well, but they're building it's a few hundred, you

[1:05:03] know, it's epic.

[1:05:05] I personally do think though to Don's point is important to look into all that I own some property on that side of town and in the past five years I've seen some big changes of things that I'm not happy about.

[1:05:20] Just yesterday I was walking out of my property and was welcomed by a homeless person asking me for money and I'll be honest with you that's not the first time I've heard that.

[1:05:30] I've heard that from other people and that's not a great thing to be having in our community.

[1:05:38] People aren't going to want to continue to go to that business as they're landlord.

[1:05:42] I'm taking care of it with them, but it's concerning because if people are coming to our area

[1:05:49] or living our area and want to go to these establishments, I don't really want to go back there.

[1:06:09] I don't get it all the time in the city, I think that's a bigger issue.

[1:06:21] What I was told behind the Bolero area, that's where they're all the way.

[1:06:27] homeless people are living, right?

[1:06:28] It's just where in the woods being in the ballroom,

[1:06:35] or the ballroom, bowling, you know.

[1:06:37] Yeah, well, I really, by Walmart

[1:06:38] and then what, a little community at homeless people.

[1:06:43] Oh, wow.

[1:06:43] And by little, I think it's what I was told

[1:06:47] that I've never been like that.

[1:06:48] Wow.

[1:06:51] I think it's a bigger issue for sure.

[1:06:53] I don't, I don't think the issue is the way

[1:06:59] the buildings look.

[1:07:00] I think the issue is more society, it's the worst.

[1:07:02] I think what we can tell with this committee, the time being starts small with getting

[1:07:09] a meeting with this, with the owner potentially parting with Hope Well and the owners of the

[1:07:17] Walmart and seeing what are the issues with getting tenants and what is the problem.

[1:07:24] My guess is he's got some issues with tenants because he owns some property and Victor 96

[1:07:30] and he redid it all and it was a doctor's office and a salon and so my

[1:07:38] guess is he said issues getting tenants I can't speak for him but and when you

[1:07:44] start to get one type of tenant you're not going to get other times like I know

[1:07:48] my flower shop isn't going to go next to a cannon bottle store and you know

[1:07:55] you're not gonna get those ones that

[1:07:59] there's so many over the bush

[1:08:02] don't eat sore my flower shop

[1:08:04] you know just insert

[1:08:07] you would think it would go together

[1:08:08] in the planet but

[1:08:10] it's been a day

[1:08:12] and you say absolutely

[1:08:14] one word is still on that

[1:08:15] property

[1:08:17] so the whole world

[1:08:18] or you should know

[1:08:20] no I think the

[1:08:23] that gentleman that owns big glasses, let's say, start to the pee.

[1:08:28] The other one.

[1:08:29] I don't know what that is.

[1:08:30] I don't know what that is.

[1:08:30] The running's bad.

[1:08:31] You think you also got, anytime finished, too, we've got to address.

[1:08:35] Yeah.

[1:08:35] That's the model.

[1:08:36] No, they're getting off the line.

[1:08:38] No front.

[1:08:38] That's the pee's not front, too.

[1:08:42] No, good.

[1:08:43] I think those conversations, yeah, I think that's a great starting point to say

[1:08:47] the conversations and find out what's in our readestumbin block is the economy

[1:08:53] of what is stomach block and if once can, if it's stuff that's within our real house of its

[1:08:59] code issues, it's whatever, that'll be easy for us to work on. If it's other stuff, I'm not big,

[1:09:05] you know, you know, the government getting involved and it's rising people, but if we can,

[1:09:11] and once again, it's because then I have to turn off my private sector brain. Yeah.

[1:09:16] You know, if we've, if we can help facilitate it somehow to make it more attractive,

[1:09:23] And more revenue, you know, coming in and that seems like it's a good thing for the town.

[1:09:27] Well, it's an encouraging that it seems to be thriving across the street there too.

[1:09:31] Sure. Yeah.

[1:09:32] It sounds like the landlord doesn't want to bring money into his building.

[1:09:35] Right.

[1:09:36] I mean,

[1:09:38] Well, it's a problem.

[1:09:40] Sure.

[1:09:41] Well, that's, again,

[1:09:42] I mean, there's such a lot of stuff.

[1:09:43] And that's, and that's where then we look at, you know, if it's a landlord problem,

[1:09:47] then what do we do on town side?

[1:09:49] Starts.

[1:09:50] Start hitting.

[1:09:51] Yeah.

[1:09:51] things happen right. We're gonna start heading in. Where have they taught you about

[1:09:54] putting new, new, new spawns in there. We're out of the blue. Right right right this

[1:10:00] Halloween like the post so far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Teaching acts. Yeah.

[1:10:07] I'm saying like what happened. There was like an interesting thing. Right. Right up. Right.

[1:10:12] Obviously it took five. We're gonna hurry back. Yeah. We're like it's coming. I'm sure

[1:10:18] So I think that she's late three probably died when they put one in victim back.

[1:10:26] So to circle back to the answer.

[1:10:30] She's playing against.

[1:10:33] We are doing it.

[1:10:37] The last two on age two, I think it's exactly what we're just going to talk about.

[1:10:44] Not working opportunities.

[1:10:46] We love the businesses and stakeholders.

[1:10:48] And that's exactly what we're going to try to do, and ensuring local regulations and programs support the businesses,

[1:10:56] bringing businesses in to make sure that we support what they're doing.

[1:11:01] I think that that's exactly, again, from the comprehensive plan I feel that we're on the right direction,

[1:11:08] just having two meetings of what we've gone over.

[1:11:11] And it's just terms in my head that I think is appropriate.

[1:11:17] So you know, it's these chapel, the chapel, the chapel.

[1:11:21] So her job in running the bid, she doesn't own the businesses, but she, her job is to

[1:11:29] encourage businesses to come in and fill up downtown.

[1:11:33] She has a fantastic job.

[1:11:35] And so it wouldn't be a bad idea for her to come in.

[1:11:38] She owns a couple of them.

[1:11:40] She owns a couple of them.

[1:11:40] right. So many people in this one as well have, you know, vested interest, but we also have

[1:11:46] global interest. And so she has invested and especially also as a global interest of her job.

[1:11:52] Her job is to make sure that those storefronts are full and identifying, okay, do we have too many

[1:11:58] read shops, okay? But we don't have, or whatever, you know, I'm involved in the farmer's market,

[1:12:03] we're like identifying, okay, we don't have a kombucha guy, but we'd be good for the farmer's

[1:12:07] So we go out there and try to find it, can't boot you guys.

[1:12:11] And so it might be worthwhile to sit down with her

[1:12:14] whatever and find out what her strategy is,

[1:12:15] even though it may be competitive with her,

[1:12:17] because she's trying to fill up downtown.

[1:12:19] We're trying to help.

[1:12:20] But once you have it having the conversation with her,

[1:12:24] maybe we identify this person owns the property

[1:12:27] and we're not trying to get too involved,

[1:12:29] but we like to help if we can without

[1:12:32] financially incentivizing or whatever.

[1:12:34] Hey, you know, it appears that you need the community needs on, you know,

[1:12:39] another ex-throwing place, right? So, let's find an ex-throwing place, right?

[1:12:44] So anyway, just since she's got a lot of experience in that world of trying to fill up empty spaces,

[1:12:52] but it might be a good idea to sit down.

[1:12:53] Where is that? I just saw Facebook. There's a plain land coming.

[1:12:58] It's here. That's the actual, that's the extra one.

[1:13:01] It's like an arcade too, right?

[1:13:04] Well, it's been my dad's building where full sun is moving

[1:13:07] after it has moved out.

[1:13:09] No, they're in our arcade and next to like

[1:13:11] Mark's feeds the rear or something like that.

[1:13:13] Over there?

[1:13:14] I don't know, but there's a new plate.

[1:13:16] A new plate.

[1:13:16] How can I make a plate?

[1:13:17] Yeah.

[1:13:18] Playground, playland and some kids.

[1:13:21] It's like an indoor activity thing for people

[1:13:25] to come in and do say, where are that our children?

[1:13:28] It's gonna be where full sun.

[1:13:29] Oh right, I'm close to you.

[1:13:30] So it's not there. Okay. No, they're going through the approval process city right now. Okay.

[1:13:36] All right. Yeah. That's a big space.

[1:13:39] 66. It's gonna be go where it will send us.

[1:13:42] Yeah. That'd be awesome.

[1:13:44] We have a lot of those places like Invictor at the mall where people can bring their children and play inside.

[1:13:50] Indoor, indoor bounce houses and stuff like that. Yeah.

[1:13:53] Arcade games and stuff like that. Yep.

[1:13:55] But I'm not opposed to obviously helping the landlord, and I definitely think incentives

[1:14:02] are great.

[1:14:03] As the developer, if I'm developing piece of property, I've always thought like I'm making

[1:14:08] this piece of property better than putting all this investment in, give me a cut on taxes

[1:14:13] or give me a cut on something.

[1:14:15] I'm cool with that, but just to push money out with nothing happening, I just don't think

[1:14:21] that.

[1:14:21] I don't know, that should just, yeah, that's not the right vote.

[1:14:24] But instead of I was a landlord to invest money into our community, it makes all the sense

[1:14:28] of the world.

[1:14:30] But not until it's done.

[1:14:31] Yeah.

[1:14:33] So try not to go first.

[1:14:34] Oh, sorry.

[1:14:37] What would I, just a side note, we keep talking about the city of Canada or Hopewell.

[1:14:45] Have we ever thought about expanding this committee to bringing in Hopewell in the city of Canada

[1:14:51] day one, I'm born just because I feel like yes this is a candidate, but it's also maybe

[1:14:58] important because these are our neighbors.

[1:15:00] If we can all get on the same track, and we should be competitors with our neighbors, we ever thought about them again or had to report on the county level. Orion Davis and his team are in charge of basic business development for the county. So at the county level, it exists. We're just now with this committee two weeks and two months in, restarting it at our level. And then there is in between.

[1:15:29] there is a thing called the Candega Local Development Committee or

[1:15:37] Corporate Corporation and we just had discussion about them yesterday because

[1:15:41] within Candega, the goal of that was to fill that role a little bit to broaden the

[1:15:50] geography because Candega was Candega, but people they don't know where the

[1:15:54] the line is, the general line is wherever, right?

[1:15:57] And so, and they have not been that successful

[1:16:01] at having these discussions.

[1:16:03] And so, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be ruled out,

[1:16:05] but it's definitely happening at the county level.

[1:16:07] It's now happening at the town level.

[1:16:10] I think that the jury is out,

[1:16:14] well, now there's a middle ground somewhere

[1:16:16] that it makes sense right now that middle ground

[1:16:19] doesn't seem to be.

[1:16:20] But we could get Ryan Davis into the justice group.

[1:16:23] he's very willing to come in and talk about stuff and he might he definitely wants to hear from

[1:16:27] from the three percent of the table because that's his job that's what he does I call Ryan every other

[1:16:32] month yeah he's he's not off of it yeah he goes a nice job yeah and so um but I think it's a good

[1:16:39] question but I don't know there's some middle point county definitely town definitely

[1:16:45] where you draw the line on the middle ground do you invite hope well do you invite

[1:16:51] I'm not saying every meeting, I'm just saying, we talked about the needs, we talked about

[1:16:55] that as well.

[1:16:56] Maybe it's a wonderful discussion.

[1:16:58] Do we know whether Hopewell or Gorm or anybody like that around us has anything like this?

[1:17:04] I know Gorm.

[1:17:06] My name is on the Gorm.

[1:17:09] I know Gorm does not have everything.

[1:17:13] Yeah, Brian's got a good point, though, because I feel like, you know, between home

[1:17:19] well in the city of Canada, you know, in particular, there's a lot overlap with commercial

[1:17:22] stuff.

[1:17:22] I mean, I have a big time.

[1:17:23] You know, I think, like, there was some discussion when we were building a storage facility

[1:17:27] with more Torians in the town on commercial solar and storage, which we have both.

[1:17:32] You know, I think we've got a lot of some of the businesses that Sarah mentioned earlier

[1:17:37] in the area now.

[1:17:38] there weren't any before just curious like the pit of threshold or saturation point for

[1:17:43] dispensaries and smoke shops and that kind of stuff for

[1:17:46] we get to talk to the city and hope all about what they've got going on for

[1:17:50] Right, so maybe maybe as part of this every quarter

[1:17:54] You know that we invite somebody from from each of those municipalities to come in

[1:17:59] Just definitely see as a business person

[1:18:01] Maybe we put our kidneys a bit

[1:18:04] Yeah

[1:18:05] You have her just come in that she's going for it. I think she would be she's done in the city and see if there is a

[1:18:14] Hi, it's amazing. That's amazing. I choose highly enough. She's ambitious like they're standing out now over on post-Street

[1:18:21] There was like farmers and that's what I didn't realize and told buddy mine bought a building over there. He's like,

[1:18:28] Yes, she asked me what my plans are and I didn't know it was part of like some master points

[1:18:35] So it's because though it's a, I mean, if you hold well or it tells how economic development

[1:18:40] is, they're not quite sure they may be, but we'll surround in towns have standard committees.

[1:18:47] You certainly, you combined meetings with those previously, like, whistle, or law districts and stuff,

[1:18:54] so you should matter, fine, or even have going on on a state, having somebody,

[1:19:07] Yeah, I'm actually with the code officer, I hope that was for my next meeting today, so I can talk to him and see

[1:19:18] That's a fun many loved ones.

[1:19:22] If I can get a word in with them?

[1:19:24] I will ask him about, yeah, I mean it goes back to saying like, you know, my project lies

[1:19:33] heavily in Hopewell on Canada, but we've talked about, we've had how many meetings here.

[1:19:38] I need sewer to come from Canada to get to my property.

[1:19:43] So I mean, it seems like there's still a lot of energy there.

[1:19:48] that you should be talking about as more than just the time.

[1:19:53] There's still some work that's the issue there's some time there.

[1:19:57] We think about like this, the residents, they send their kids from whole

[1:20:02] world, don't they go to Canada? It depends on where you're from.

[1:20:05] Yeah, they're either with a jacket or...

[1:20:09] Oh, so this place, it's split up. Depends on where you're at.

[1:20:13] Yeah.

[1:20:14] So really, this one that I printed out for you,

[1:20:18] you can look at for the economic development.

[1:20:21] What our responsibilities are,

[1:20:23] but I hit on the top one street guys,

[1:20:26] which I feel that just from the discussion today,

[1:20:29] we're covering a lot of them.

[1:20:32] Yeah.

[1:20:33] And once again, we're going into a plan review

[1:20:36] for the next 10 years.

[1:20:37] So a chance for this group to play a role

[1:20:41] and say the direction for the next ten years.

[1:20:45] Absolutely. So, is there any questions in regards to the

[1:20:48] God's plan for the exhibition I sent out?

[1:20:55] All right, move on to the last one, the development of activity.

[1:20:58] Yeah, so, my smart PR code office has been available,

[1:21:03] babies has been out for training.

[1:21:06] We put together this report, and then Kristen and I added

[1:21:11] a little bit, but it's just the major projects underway for in planning. Just a real high overview

[1:21:23] here because we're going to a little one. Active Evergreen, they're doing a bunch of activities

[1:21:31] over there over the next year to two years. They're doing a lot of upgrades. You can see the project's

[1:21:40] federal and anticipated permits, a few sets there.

[1:21:49] They're doing a clean run project inside their current building.

[1:21:53] This is a very large project inside.

[1:21:58] It just allows them to do additional work there.

[1:22:02] We also had Jake's landscaping and art state.

[1:22:05] They got playing board approval for a new facility on brickyard road right across from the airport

[1:22:12] Actually right across some mercy place

[1:22:19] Uh, a nail salon

[1:22:21] On room 332 that Mike's been working on this work without permits

[1:22:32] So he's working through that the fairgrounds is promoting another building

[1:22:37] Which is great to see that they're continuing to update the interior of county fairgrounds.

[1:22:43] Self-power on county road age.

[1:22:48] Mobile road improvements there that's, I think what we were talking about,

[1:22:56] that trying to do something temporary there until Daimaneker hopefully gets approved,

[1:23:01] and that all around can be updated.

[1:23:04] And I'm going to get more involved with that, sir, to try to get to where you need to be.

[1:23:10] The airport, we did an imminent slow agreement with the Ontario County.

[1:23:15] The County and the IDA run the airport.

[1:23:18] We were doing instructions out there, but the new agreement is that Ontario County will be doing all instructions out there.

[1:23:26] sell as a vet center, that just got re-approved at the planning board. Hopefully we'll see that moving forward at some point. Let's say no live night.

[1:23:39] Like my building that I have just a space for commercial use.

[1:23:45] I'm not saying.

[1:23:47] Oh, so listen to this.

[1:23:49] I want to talk to you about this.

[1:23:51] Yes.

[1:23:52] Anybody that wants to have me?

[1:23:54] This is like a DIY spot.

[1:23:56] You're going to have to be there.

[1:23:57] So facilitate the, you know, or, you know, stand like,

[1:24:00] or they run into the space and say, here, here you go.

[1:24:02] I'll be back.

[1:24:03] Yeah.

[1:24:04] You know, at the end of the event.

[1:24:05] Cut out.

[1:24:06] Cut out.

[1:24:07] Okay.

[1:24:09] You know, we're excited to see that.

[1:24:11] and that's the space. I think that's another fair that we can have for

[1:24:16] the bringing weddings, weddings bringing tourists. Absolutely. And have a good spend

[1:24:23] money. That's right. You can see a walk around town all the time.

[1:24:27] On your planning boards we review, we have wide-water classes that we talk about

[1:24:36] building and commercial building. That's under review.

[1:24:40] Gerber shoveled a lot as looking to you a

[1:24:47] audition that will be coming in front of the

[1:24:49] planning board.

[1:24:51] Next one.

[1:24:55] Gerber Honda is looking to do a parking lot

[1:24:59] and a new building.

[1:25:00] on Route 332 and those out of their current building.

[1:25:05] So that private bus came to us.

[1:25:08] I would imagine in about two months

[1:25:10] that will be in front of the planning board.

[1:25:14] County Road 4, sewer lift station.

[1:25:17] This is a small area, if you know where the baseball fields

[1:25:22] are out there in their backyard.

[1:25:25] It's a small little area that they're

[1:25:27] looking to do.

[1:25:27] to the counties looking to do a lift station with the VA.

[1:25:31] This will provide sewer for people out there

[1:25:34] that are on topic, also for the Congress next,

[1:25:37] but it also helps the VA with their sewer.

[1:25:42] The Paul facility, they just got an extension

[1:25:47] and we've had a long conversation with that

[1:25:50] and they are working to start building next year.

[1:25:53] I'm the next Paul next year.

[1:25:56] So we're excited to hear their schedule, what they're doing and they have another building

[1:26:00] not in our area that is going to be the sister building this one, they're getting all

[1:26:05] the kinks worked out and that one burns, and then they're going to build the one here.

[1:26:10] So, and then we have diamond acres which will be going back in front of Tom Moore to start

[1:26:19] that process of the reads only.

[1:26:21] So as we talked about that was 239 pound home units, 9 single family homes, many storage and seven commercial lots.

[1:26:31] So there's a good mix of everything there.

[1:26:35] Country estates, phase one continues for mandatory homes.

[1:26:41] We have 50 papers in the next year, more to come.

[1:26:45] And uptown landing.

[1:26:48] again and to talk about that already with the R and G has our issues.

[1:26:55] Questions? Map report.

[1:26:58] Like I thought this is a really high level but I think it's important for this group to know

[1:27:02] some of the big projects that are coming true. But we will continue to do that report.

[1:27:09] Does these guys have it?

[1:27:12] There's a great report, and I'd like to ask, I mean, this is already part of the

[1:27:18] Addendum items for the floor meeting.

[1:27:21] But this is, there's be great information for the board to have as well.

[1:27:25] Yeah.

[1:27:25] Why do you develop report?

[1:27:29] Yeah.

[1:27:29] Because I pop in and out of planning board meetings, and obviously, I'm involved here with a lot of our board members

[1:27:35] and the most of them in the United States.

[1:27:38] So this is great for me.

[1:27:40] I was just asked that is added to this,

[1:27:43] like especially where some of these are.

[1:27:48] Some of them have addresses, but then some of them don't.

[1:27:52] And so they can't just be added.

[1:27:54] So I know exactly where they would be.

[1:27:57] That would be great.

[1:27:58] My other thought is a question.

[1:28:01] We talked about with the two big guys

[1:28:02] that are investing in tribal money and their facilities to build their businesses in our town and their employees.

[1:28:13] You know, you know, high paid jobs in their town that we were going to have some sort of a visit with them to thank them to do whatever to build greater relationship between what they're doing.

[1:28:33] and those buss you within the committee

[1:28:35] or at board level or at the senior staff level.

[1:28:40] I don't know if we're doing anything.

[1:28:42] My thought was, and it's obviously something you might do,

[1:28:46] but I was gonna see if they would be willing

[1:28:48] to come in and get a presentation to this group

[1:28:51] so that everybody in economics knows what they're doing

[1:28:53] and then maybe we could figure out,

[1:28:55] maybe at a top board level,

[1:28:57] from sort of a way to recognize them, you know.

[1:28:59] is that secret? One of the two big guys I guess attacks us first, but it's secret, the few big guys aren't.

[1:29:08] Acoustic is effective.

[1:29:11] Oh, cool.

[1:29:11] Yeah.

[1:29:12] I'm sorry.

[1:29:12] Excessive businesses, mallacoustic is taking over.

[1:29:16] It's still cold.

[1:29:17] I'm supposed to blow over the acoustic.

[1:29:19] It's done the last year without paying any pilots or taxes or anything.

[1:29:24] But it's a current owner or it's acoustic.

[1:29:26] It's face acts but they're keeping the art keeping glitches.

[1:29:33] And they're changing over to acoustics.

[1:29:36] No, no, no, no, no.

[1:29:37] This is every set of stuff.

[1:29:38] No, all the bouncing all around.

[1:29:41] No, the space acts, the space acts, the acoustics, the travel.

[1:29:46] They're like 18 months.

[1:29:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:29:49] It has the cardinillas on the left.

[1:29:52] The crib.

[1:29:52] They're bankrupt.

[1:29:53] Yeah.

[1:29:53] They're bought out by SpaceX and the bankruptcy, the pilot.

[1:30:00] I got resolved. They owe all the coostists. We have a claim in for about 10 grand for the pilot payments they've never made. We'll probably never see for the bankruptcy for it. And the IDA, found they haven't closed on on a pilot agreement with new acoustic space X company yet. Me time, they've been zero in taxes. And so I want to go to. Yeah.

[1:30:29] or you have to celebrate them until we actually

[1:30:31] have to demolish the smallest component

[1:30:33] manufacturer acquisition of SpaceX instead.

[1:30:37] That's a silly thing, I agree.

[1:30:39] But I will reach out to Pacto

[1:30:41] and see if they can increase.

[1:30:43] I mean, reach out to Accusa for sure,

[1:30:45] and plus maybe find out where they're going on there.

[1:30:48] I'll let you go.

[1:30:52] Unfortunately, we don't have any control right in County.

[1:30:55] The idea to manage those.

[1:30:57] and there's been little communication with us in regards to that process and so we didn't

[1:31:06] have to tax it on the role and so that's why we're, I don't know, but yeah, fine, some very

[1:31:16] men certainly, maybe have that discussion too.

[1:31:21] So the only question that you guys are learning out of questions about projects is what would

[1:31:27] you like to see on the next minutes.

[1:31:35] Again, like that, that's my

[1:31:36] gosh, I definitely like to see any updates on you to do

[1:31:40] development, businesses coming in, that would be great.

[1:31:45] The diesel, I would be great for passive people. The next

[1:31:50] meeting, the next meeting, the next meeting, the kind of

[1:31:51] community feedback people have had a recent experience of

[1:31:54] the good, I hope you and my yeah, probably should bring in

[1:31:57] the. Yes, I think that now, don't mention somebody, you, you

[1:32:01] were probably going to be here for a week. Yeah, the

[1:32:04] from here and come. Just going to put a leisure.

[1:32:09] They're mostly, well, the next

[1:32:19] meeting should

[1:32:20] be 10-7. I call it 7th, 1st Wednesday of month, 4th, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

[1:32:28] 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

[1:32:40] 3rd,

[1:32:47] I'd like to move from motion forward in Germany.

[1:32:50] Actually, before you do that, just,

[1:32:51] I'd like to thank the three of you.

[1:32:53] I was in here for the first meeting.

[1:32:55] I really would like to thank the three of you

[1:32:56] for being willing to do this because,

[1:32:59] you know, it's critical for the growth of our town

[1:33:03] to be growing the right way

[1:33:04] and to have people that are seasoned in various areas.

[1:33:10] You know, it's really, really great.

[1:33:13] And, you know, it's a lot of time on your day.

[1:33:15] so I just personally want to say thank you so much thank you very much

[1:33:29] motion if you want anyone opposed anyone it was uh first yeah that's the

[1:33:36] is it's favorite? It's favorite. It's not out of it.

[1:33:40] And we want to vote.

[1:33:42] We'll see you in the chart.

[1:33:44] Thank you, everybody.

[1:33:46] Thank you, Dan.

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