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[1:35]
meeting for planning matters for the
[1:37]
corporation of mun municipality of
[1:39]
central Elgen March 9th.
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And first up, appointment of committee
[1:44]
of adjustment secretary treasurer.
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Any questions?
[1:52]
Get a mover and secondary for that
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motion. Oh, I'll let Delaney read it.
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» Uh, Mr. Deputy mayor through you to
[2:00]
councel. Uh this would be a housekeeping
[2:02]
item to formally appoint Emerald
[2:05]
Austerberry as the secretary treasurer
[2:06]
for the committee of adjustment given
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that she's now our planning coordinator.
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Um if there are any questions I'm happy
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to respond.
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>> Any questions?
[2:18]
Mover and seconder. Councelor Griffin.
[2:20]
Councelor Bachmann.
[2:25]
All in favor?
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Motion carries.
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And next, this is a public meeting as
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required by the planning act to provide
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an opportunity to provide input with
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respect to a proposed minor variance at
[2:41]
510 Lower Spring Street, Port Stanley
[2:44]
and 43850
[2:48]
Sparta Line, Municipality of Central
[2:50]
Elgen. Uh, does any member of the
[2:52]
committee have a disclosure of pecunary
[2:55]
interest?
[2:57]
Seeing none,
[2:59]
uh, what method of notice and when was
[3:01]
the notice given for the public meeting?
[3:05]
>> Mr. Deputy Mayor, through you to the
[3:07]
committee. As per requirements of the
[3:08]
planning act, notice was mailed by
[3:10]
regular post to every owner of land
[3:11]
within 60 meters of the subject land at
[3:14]
510 Lower Spring Street and applicable
[3:16]
agencies on April or February 27th,
[3:19]
2026. Notice was physically posted to
[3:21]
the property by municipal staff and also
[3:23]
posted to the website.
[3:26]
>> Okay. If the applicant or agent is in
[3:28]
attendance, please come forward to
[3:30]
explain the application.
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» Just a small
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>> I'll get you to just tap the mic there.
[3:41]
>> Hi, James Mlan, owner of 510. Um, it's a
[3:45]
1920s building. It's been there before
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any of us were around. And uh we're
[3:51]
trying to make it a threeseason take it
[3:54]
from being a threeseason cottage that I
[3:56]
purchased in 2013 and have virtually
[3:58]
done nothing to it. So it's very vintage
[4:01]
and uh we wanted to renovate it to be
[4:04]
able to use it throughout the winter. Um
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it's uh basically um grandfathered
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footprint we're we're trying to respect
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and uh we're adding um hoping to add a
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uh turn the attic square it off and be
[4:20]
able to add a few rooms in where the
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attic was and uh we've actually
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shortened the building from the west
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side by 6 ft. Um and uh we were just
[4:31]
trying to square off a corner. So the
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actual only addition on the footprint is
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54 square ft. So it's just a little
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corner. We've been obviously well
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consult consulted with the pre-conult
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with uh the planning committee who've
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been very helpful and we've had
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obviously Kettle Creek involved. We've
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done geotechnical surveys. Uh we've had
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a geotechnical engineer sign off on the
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uh uh the footings that were being done
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and any other adjustments we've done
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obviously and we have uh all the other
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requirements from structural engineer
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reports and so on.
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>> Okay. Thank you James.
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>> Okay.
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>> Have any uh have have we received any
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submissions regarding the proposal?
[5:19]
>> Mr. Mr. Chair, correspondence was
[5:21]
received from the Kettle Creek
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Conservation Authority confirming no
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objection to its approval and that the
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subject lands are affected by natural
[5:27]
hazard regulations under the
[5:28]
Conservation Authorities Act whereby
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written permission is required of KCCA
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prior to any development.
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Okay, the floor is now open for
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questions from members of the committee.
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Does committee have any questions?
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Okay, the floor is now open for
[5:46]
questions from members of the public.
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» Hi.
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Uh Joe [clears throat] Delosa, 508
[5:59]
Lower Spring. Uh we're on the east side.
[6:02]
So, uh just a couple of questions,
[6:04]
James. Um so, um I noticed that there is
[6:08]
a firewall going up. Um could you could
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you provide some more um information
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around that firewall? Will there be any
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um you know digging or or excavation on
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that side of the the building um to
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support that? Um and then also have just
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a question about uh second question
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about drainage um where where um you're
[6:33]
planning on u putting the downspouts
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as well as um if you're planning on any
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mechanical at that side of the building.
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So for context for the committee there's
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uh 4T between the buildings. Um so it's
[6:47]
very very narrow space and just want to
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get an understanding of what's going on
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the east side of the buildings. Thank
[6:52]
you.
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>> Okay.
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>> Yep. Sure. James, if you're able to come
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up and answer some questions.
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>> Okay. Do I look at you?
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>> Um, with respect to the firewall, it's
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obviously up to whatever the code is.
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There'll be no windows, no mechanical,
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nothing that will jut to the east. And
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uh the footings uh have been replaced
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already with with the cement post
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pierce. And um so
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>> those were done on the inside.
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>> Yeah, inside. Nothing's gone outside. So
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it'll actually the wall will come in in
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just a little bit because the LDL will
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run and then everything will be centered
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over that. So we're just having to make
[7:32]
slight adjustments because nothing was
[7:33]
square or centered. Um and uh the
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mechanical room actually uh there's no
[7:39]
uh furnace. It'll be just uh
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>> is there air like I'm air conditioning
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or I know it's
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>> nothing have gas.
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>> I have I don't even have a gas line so
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it's all electric. So there's no gas. It
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will be uh
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>> but you're not going to be installing
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like propane tanks or anything.
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>> No, it's a electric heat pump.
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>> So, and they're all inside wall units.
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You know how they And um yeah, there you
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won't hear a thing on your side uh at
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all. So, sorry. Did I answer what was
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the other question?
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>> Just drainage. Where would
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be?
[8:09]
>> Well, right now the existing downspouts
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all are, as you know, go into the
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corrugated uh plastic piping. So, we're
[8:17]
going to actually clean that up and they
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won't be corrugated. they'll be
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straight. So, we're running that. We're
[8:22]
also creating a swell on the west side.
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That's why we took the building back a
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bit. So, yes, we're we're absolutely
[8:28]
respecting all the drainage that goes
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under the building and and creating uh
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enough um we're not changing any of the
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you know uh what what do you call the uh
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orientation of the hill or anything to
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that effect. So, the way we have it
[8:43]
right now, it'll be exactly the same.
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>> Yeah. So there's u yeah I could if there
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is a fellow on council that's looked at
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our drainage plan and approved it but if
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you want if you have any more questions
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for him I'm happy to pass on that.
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>> That would be that would be great.
[9:00]
>> Okay.
[9:01]
Thank you James.
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>> Good.
[9:04]
>> Is there any further questions?
[9:10]
» Okay. Seeing none. Everyone has been
[9:13]
given a fair opportunity to be heard. Is
[9:15]
the committee prepared to make a
[9:16]
decision or reserve its decision?
[9:21]
I feel the committee is ready to make a
[9:22]
decision. All in favor?
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Opposed?
[9:29]
And motion's carried.
[9:32]
Okay. Anyone wanting to be notified of
[9:34]
the committee's decision should be
[9:36]
should contact the municipality.
[9:39]
Thank you everyone.
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Okay.
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And
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moving on to 43850
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Sparta line and what method and notice
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and when was the notice given to the
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public for this meeting?
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>> Mr. Chair, as per requirements of the
[10:00]
planning act, notice was mailed by
[10:01]
regular post to every owner of land
[10:02]
within 60 meters of the subject land and
[10:04]
applicable agencies on February 27th,
[10:07]
2026. Notice was physically posted to
[10:09]
the property by municipal staff and also
[10:11]
posted to the municipal website.
[10:15]
Thank you. If the applicant or agent is
[10:17]
in attendance, please come forward and
[10:18]
explain the application.
[10:27]
» Okay. Um, my name is Jeff. Um, it's my
[10:30]
daughter's place. We're just going to
[10:31]
build a an ADU unit out there to help
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her support family and stuff like that.
[10:36]
Just to, you know, create another house
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availability for somebody else in
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Central Logan. Um, I think all the
[10:42]
permits and everything was sent in. MP
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Jesse from MP sent all the permits and
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or uh paperwork I should say for all the
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uh um surveys um Kettle Creek um all
[10:55]
that stuff, drainage, all that stuff was
[10:56]
sent in through them, I believe.
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>> Okay. Thank you, Jeff. Uh have we
[11:02]
received a written submission regarding
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the proposal?
[11:06]
>> Mr. Chair correspondence was was
[11:08]
received from the Kettle Creek
[11:09]
Conservation Authority confirming no
[11:11]
objection to its approval.
[11:13]
>> Okay. The floor is now open for
[11:16]
questions from members of the committee.
[11:19]
>> Seeing none, the floor is open for
[11:22]
questions from members of the public.
[11:27]
Okay. And seeing none, um, everyone has
[11:30]
been given a fair opportunity to be
[11:31]
heard. Is committee prepared to make a
[11:33]
decision or reserve its decision?
[11:36]
I trust that the committee's ready to
[11:37]
make a decision. All those in favor.
[11:42]
Motion carries. Those wanting to be
[11:44]
notified of the committee's decision
[11:46]
should contact the municipality. This
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meeting of the committee of adjustment
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is adjourned at 6:10.
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Okay. Zoning.
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to afford any person an opportunity to
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make representation with respect to a
[12:11]
proposed zoning bylaw amendment for 460
[12:14]
West Edith Cabell Boulevard in the
[12:16]
municipality of central Algen. Does any
[12:19]
member of the committee have a
[12:20]
disclosure of peunery interest?
[12:24]
Seeing none, what method of notice and
[12:26]
when was the notice given for this
[12:27]
public meeting?
[12:28]
>> Mr. Deputy mayor, as per requirements of
[12:30]
the planning act, notice was mailed by
[12:32]
regular post to every owner of land
[12:33]
within 120 meters of the subject land
[12:35]
and applicable agencies on February
[12:37]
17th, 2026. Notice was physically posted
[12:40]
to the property by municipal staff and
[12:42]
also posted to the municipal website.
[12:45]
Thank you. Mark Andrews, planner, is
[12:48]
present to explain the proposed zoning
[12:51]
bylaw amendment.
[12:56]
Welcome, Mark.
[13:00]
Thank you.
[13:02]
So through the chair and members of uh
[13:05]
council. So the application tonight, the
[13:07]
public meeting is to um reszone a
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portion of the subject lands in order to
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permit the removal of the existing
[13:13]
dwelling and to facilitate the
[13:15]
construction of a new single detached
[13:17]
dwelling. Um specifically a yearround
[13:19]
dwelling. Uh right now it's uh it's an
[13:21]
older seasonal cottage. Uh so the effect
[13:25]
of the proposed zoning amendment would
[13:26]
allow the subject lands to um contain a
[13:29]
year-round uh single detached dwelling
[13:32]
and a holding provision uh is also being
[13:34]
recommended to demonstrate that uh the
[13:36]
municipality is a satisfied with uh lot
[13:39]
grading and drainage um upon the final
[13:41]
approvals.
[13:43]
>> Okay. Thank you. Have uh have you
[13:46]
received any written submissions on the
[13:49]
proposal?
[13:50]
>> Mr. Deputy mayor, correspondence was
[13:52]
received from the Kettle Creek
[13:53]
Conservation Authority confirming no
[13:55]
objection to the approval and that the
[13:57]
subject lands are affected by
[13:59]
regulations under the Conservation
[14:00]
Authorities Act whereby written
[14:02]
permission is required of KCCA prior to
[14:04]
any development. KCCIA staff
[14:07]
participated in a prior consultation
[14:09]
meeting regarding the subject uh
[14:12]
amendment and can confirm that staff
[14:14]
have no concerns with what is proposed
[14:16]
to support the existing development on
[14:18]
the subject lands.
[14:19]
Okay, the floor is now open for members
[14:21]
of council if they have any questions.
[14:26]
Seeing none, the floor is open to
[14:28]
members of the public if they have
[14:29]
questions.
[14:33]
And seeing none, everyone has been given
[14:36]
a fair opportunity to be heard. Any
[14:38]
person wishing further information on
[14:40]
the action of council regarding the
[14:43]
passing of the bylaw on the proposed
[14:46]
amendment should contact the
[14:47]
municipality.
[14:49]
Any amendment to the bylaw will be
[14:51]
considered at a future meeting of
[14:54]
council. This public meeting is
[14:56]
adjourned at
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613.
[31:32]
Welcome. This is a public meeting as
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required under the section 2.7 of the
[31:37]
bylaw
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uh 0465
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dangerous dog bylaw respecting the
[31:43]
designation of Zoey, a female dog, as
[31:46]
potentially dangerous by the
[31:48]
municipality
[31:50]
uh the municipal law enforcement
[31:51]
officer. Does any member of the council
[31:54]
have a disclosure of pecunary interest?
[31:58]
Seeing none, what method of notice and
[32:01]
when was the notice given for this
[32:02]
public hearing?
[32:05]
>> Mr. Deputy mayor, notice was sent by
[32:07]
mail to interested parties and the
[32:08]
appellent and also emailed to the
[32:10]
appellent on February 17th, 2026.
[32:13]
>> Have you received any written
[32:15]
submissions on the designation?
[32:18]
>> Uh, Mr. Chair, I have not.
[32:21]
>> Okay.
[32:22]
If the appellant or representative is
[32:24]
present, please come forward to provide
[32:27]
testimony or introduce evidence.
[32:34]
Uh, seeing none, I will now ask the
[32:37]
manager of bylaw enforcement to provide
[32:39]
testimony or introduce evidence.
[32:48]
» Thank you. Um, I won't take too much of
[32:50]
your time. I think the information
[32:53]
provided in uh the package provided
[32:55]
tonight pretty much covers everything.
[32:57]
I'll just give a little bit of quick
[32:58]
background uh on the process we
[33:00]
undertook before getting to this point.
[33:02]
So, the first complaint was received in
[33:04]
July of 2025. Since that point, the
[33:06]
municipality has received four
[33:07]
additional complaints of similar nature.
[33:09]
These complaints were investigated with
[33:11]
various levels of enforcement being
[33:12]
conducted uh ranging from the step one
[33:15]
of education reminding the owner of the
[33:18]
rules regarding uh dogs at large uh and
[33:22]
then ultimately culminating in a
[33:24]
designation here tonight following
[33:26]
charges being laid for [snorts]
[33:27]
um failing to comply uh with those
[33:30]
rules. So, um, we've taken each, uh,
[33:34]
complaint seriously and kind of, uh,
[33:37]
started with an educational approach and
[33:38]
moved forward up until we got to this
[33:40]
point. I will note, uh, as I did in my
[33:42]
report, that each individual event, um,
[33:45]
may not have been enough to warrant a
[33:47]
designation on its own. Uh, the reason
[33:49]
we got to this point here tonight is
[33:51]
because of the accumulation uh, of
[33:53]
similar events um, with little to no um,
[33:58]
corrective action being taken by the
[33:59]
owner. So, uh, apart from that, uh, I'm
[34:02]
happy to answer any questions that
[34:03]
council may have.
[34:05]
>> Okay. Thank you, Curtis. Does council
[34:07]
have any questions,
[34:09]
councilor Watson?
[34:10]
>> Yeah, through you, uh, chair to Curtis.
[34:12]
So, that the first time was July 25th
[34:15]
and then there was four more. So, is
[34:16]
that a total of five occurrences?
[34:19]
>> Yes, that's correct.
[34:24]
>> Any other questions? Councelor Connors.
[34:28]
through your chair to uh Curtis. Curtis,
[34:30]
[clears throat] during the process, have
[34:32]
you noticed any difference in the
[34:36]
dog's behavior? Obviously, you know, the
[34:39]
obvious answer is no, but I'm wondering
[34:41]
if um if the owner paid any heed to what
[34:45]
you were talking to him about and with
[34:47]
the fines, etc., and did the situation
[34:50]
improve in your mind at all?
[34:54]
>> Uh through chair to councelor Connors.
[34:57]
Um, based on my interactions with the
[34:59]
dog owner, um, I didn't personally see
[35:02]
any improvement, um, from the owner from
[35:05]
the beginning of the education process
[35:08]
to the point where we issued a
[35:09]
designation. Um, I think that's clear
[35:12]
through just the number of complaints
[35:14]
that we've received throughout the
[35:15]
process where after each step,
[35:18]
nothing really appeared to change.
[35:22]
>> Councilor Bachmann. Uh, thank you,
[35:24]
Curtis. um reading through you've you've
[35:27]
definitely illustrated the issue. I'm
[35:28]
just wondering what the corrective
[35:30]
actions are going to be moving forward
[35:33]
>> through chair to councelor Bachmann. Uh
[35:36]
as per the bylaw, um
[35:40]
if the designation is upheld, uh the
[35:42]
requirements would be the dog would have
[35:44]
to be muzzled anytime it's off property.
[35:47]
Um it needs to be in a contained fenced
[35:50]
in yard anytime it is outside the
[35:52]
residence. and then a $1 million
[35:54]
insurance policy would need to be
[35:55]
obtained by the owner um going forward.
[35:59]
Uh the difficulty with that is those
[36:02]
things should have already been being
[36:03]
followed and as stated in the report we
[36:06]
have had another uh complaint since the
[36:08]
issue of the designation where the owner
[36:10]
was subsequently charged with failing to
[36:12]
comply with a control order. So um I
[36:16]
can't guarantee that those things will
[36:18]
happen immediately. Ultimately, we could
[36:20]
end up with um bigger charges and
[36:23]
potentially in a court hearing down the
[36:26]
street if um those requirements aren't
[36:29]
followed.
[36:31]
>> Councelor Bachman.
[36:32]
>> So, if the owner continues to ignore
[36:35]
your recommendations, uh it's going to
[36:38]
escalate to
[36:40]
a more serious what what would the next
[36:43]
serious step be?
[36:46]
So, with the designation, if uh the
[36:48]
requirements aren't followed, we can
[36:50]
charge them again with failing to comply
[36:52]
with a control order, uh which we've
[36:53]
done once already. Um the next step
[36:56]
after that, if we continue to have
[36:59]
issues, is we would have to end up
[37:00]
summoning them to provincial court.
[37:07]
Any other questions?
[37:11]
Appreciate your diligence on this one,
[37:13]
Curtis. Um, now that all evidence has
[37:16]
been heard, any parties may provide
[37:18]
closing statements, submissions
[37:21]
that are limited to five minutes. I
[37:23]
don't think we have to do that part.
[37:27]
And uh,
[37:34]
» hi.
[37:35]
>> Um,
[37:40]
» we can't. Okay.
[37:42]
>> Okay. Hi. Sorry, I wrote to um David
[37:45]
Connor's today.
[37:46]
>> Can I interrupt for a sec? We're we're
[37:48]
limited just to uh Curtis speaking and the owner of the dog.
[37:53]
>> Oh, not parties um affected.
[37:56]
>> Not parties.
[37:57]
>> Okay. Curtis told us before we were
[37:59]
allowed to speak today
[38:01]
>> in writing.
[38:02]
>> Yeah. The notice specifies no. It's just
[38:05]
for the for the owner of the dog and and
[38:08]
for Curtis.
[38:10]
>> That's that's our procedure for today.
[38:12]
I'm I'm sorry.
[38:13]
>> No, that's okay.
[38:19]
» Is council prepared to make his
[38:21]
decision?
[38:25]
» Council Griffin,
[38:27]
>> thank you. Through you, before we do
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make a decision, was the communication
[38:30]
that was received today anything that's
[38:32]
not in this report that the rest of us
[38:33]
should be aware of?
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» I don't have an answer for that.
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Dave,
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councelor Connors
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>> through you, chair to councelor Griffin.
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Um it was another incident that had
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happened um last year and um the lady
[38:55]
had described an incident that uh where
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the dog was uncontrolled again and uh
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unfortunately u you know not too many
[39:03]
good things happen because of it. Um,
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I've spoken to four different
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individuals on this on this particular
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uh dog. And you know, uh, as a dog
[39:13]
owner, um, there's really no bad dogs.
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Uh, there's owners that don't train and
[39:19]
owners that don't take care of their
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dogs. And, um,
[39:24]
you know, it's unfortunate what has to
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happen or what's going to happen to the
[39:27]
dog. But, uh, um, I don't know that
[39:30]
there's any other choice.
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>> Councelor Griffin. through you then, Mr.
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Chair. Um, counselors do have an
[39:38]
obligation to informed decision-making.
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If none of this is on paper, could we
[39:42]
ask that the incident be described to
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us?
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» What's your
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I'll just speak to that. At this time,
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the committee is making a a decision on
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the information that's been provided up to this point.
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Councelor Watson
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>> through you chair. If the uh owner of
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the dog's not been here to defend its
[40:31]
dog, I think we could move forward with
[40:33]
the first motion to designate the dog as
[40:35]
a dangerous dog. I'm fine with that
[40:37]
right now.
[40:38]
>> Council prepared to make a decision.
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» Seconder, Council Griffin.
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And all those in favor?
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That motion is carried.
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Everyone has been given a fair
[40:58]
opportunity to be heard. If there are no
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further questions, council Oh, sorry. We
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did that part. Um,
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and
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uh,
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okay, we're done. Thank you.
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Welcome to the regular meeting of
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municipality of central Algen. Today is
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March 9th. Please join me in the singing
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of our national anthem.
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» [music]
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» Oh [singing] Canada,
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our home [music] and native land
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true
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[singing]
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love
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in [music]
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So
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what
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see [music]
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the true
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from [singing]
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[music]
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Our
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[music]
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whole world native
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true
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is love [singing]
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in all
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[singing]
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with glory.
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hearts we [singing] see thee rise the
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drone are strong and free
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from far and wide oh Canada
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we stand on guard for thee
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[music]
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give our land
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glor Glorious
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and free.
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Oh [singing]
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Canada
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we stand [music]
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on God
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for thee.
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Oh, [music]
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can
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be standard.
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[music and singing]
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Thank you. Municipality of central Elgen
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acknowledges that it's located on the
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lands of the McKe treaty that were
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signed by the wand dot and anabi nations
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including ancestors of Chipoa of the
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temps first nations. It is also the
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traditional territory of the hodnoni
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adawan and missaga nations. These first
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nations continue to provide ongoing
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stewardship of the land and waters in
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the municipality of central Elgen. At
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this time, we'll remind council of
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disclosures of kunery interest.
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And seeing none, uh, move to the
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adoption of the previous meeting's
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minutes.
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Councelor Watson. Councelor Bachmann.
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>> Deputy Mayor Noble. The motion reads.
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Moved by councelor Watson, seconded by
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councelor Bachmann. that the minutes for
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the regular meeting of council dated
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February 9th, 2026 and special meeting
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of council dated February 23rd, 2026 be
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adopted.
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>> Any comments or emissions or
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seeing none? All in favor?
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Motion carries.
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And next we have delegations asset
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management plan presentation by Andrea.
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Welcome
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Thank you.
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Good evening, Deputy Mayor, members of
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council, staff. Um, my name is Andrea.
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I'm here from Municipal View Consulting.
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I'm joined by my colleague, Zach
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Francisco. Um, not the first time we've
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met. We did a workshop way back in
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September, and we're here with the final
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asset management plan to bring forward
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to council um and present uh some of the
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highlights of that plan today. That's
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also in your um agenda package. Next
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slide, please.
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A [clears throat] brief reminder, this
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is really your first full comprehensive
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asset management plan. You've had uh
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some versions in the past. This new plan
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is a full scope asset management plan
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includes all of the municipal assets and
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covers um the levels of service that you
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are proposing to achieve in the next 10
[1:07:28]
years. So this would bring you with its
[1:07:31]
approval today in full compliance with
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the regulation and uh give you a plan
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that you can use for the next 10 years
[1:07:38]
in alignment with your fiscal plans and
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uh your growth and service improvement
[1:07:44]
plans uh to bring you forward for the
[1:07:47]
next 10 years.
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Next slide, please.
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Just a quick reminder, we're talking
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here about assets, but we're really the
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focus of the plan that you'll see in
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your package is about services. That's
[1:08:00]
really why we're here, why we exist,
[1:08:02]
what the community cares about. So, the
[1:08:04]
focus is about tying the services you're
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striving to achieve, the assets you need
[1:08:10]
to u own and uh manage to provide those
[1:08:14]
services, and then what that forecast of
[1:08:17]
those asset needs in the next 10 years
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looks like.
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Next slide please.
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Approval of the AMP today short form
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sorry the asset management plan today is
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uh is a a important point for council
[1:08:34]
but um it it's more than just checking a
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compliance box. We want to make sure
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that it's understood by the members of
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council that uh really maybe most
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importantly it keeps you eligible for
[1:08:47]
additional provincial and federal
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funding. So both Canada and Ontario have
[1:08:52]
adjusted some of their funding
[1:08:54]
applications to request that either you
[1:08:57]
attach a compliant asset management plan
[1:09:00]
or you confirm that you have one that
[1:09:02]
complies with the regulation. So with
[1:09:04]
the approval um tonight you will uh have
[1:09:07]
that in compliance and be able to
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continue to be eligible for that
[1:09:10]
funding.
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Um it's a way of showing how you're
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taking care of this very large asset
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portfolio you have. It is not uh
[1:09:20]
prescriptive. It's not a plan that staff
[1:09:23]
will open and say, "Okay, this will tell
[1:09:25]
me how to care for our roads and our
[1:09:28]
street lights and our fleet and so on."
[1:09:30]
It's the reverse. Staff have spent much
[1:09:32]
time with David and Jeff and the
[1:09:34]
additional staff, bringing that input
[1:09:37]
from staff into the plan. So it's a
[1:09:39]
showcase for the public and for you and
[1:09:42]
all to use to see how that caretaking
[1:09:44]
works and how this translates into a a
[1:09:47]
plan forward.
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It's a an important document to open and
[1:09:52]
keep open when you are thinking about
[1:09:56]
budget coming budget capital budget
[1:09:59]
operating and um into future years. So,
[1:10:02]
you want to have it. Ideally, I love it
[1:10:05]
when I see clients have sticky notes and
[1:10:08]
dogeared pages on their asset management
[1:10:10]
plan because some of the concepts
[1:10:12]
connect. You want to see master
[1:10:14]
planning, budget planning, and asset
[1:10:16]
management planning sync up. You want to
[1:10:18]
see that you're you're reading from the
[1:10:20]
same song sheet, if you will. So,
[1:10:23]
approval today isn't approving anything
[1:10:25]
fiscally. It's approving the concepts
[1:10:28]
and the strategies that then staff can
[1:10:30]
take forward and embed those into uh
[1:10:33]
future master planning exercises and
[1:10:36]
into the the coming budgets.
[1:10:39]
Um it keeps you accountable to the
[1:10:41]
public of course and uh shows the good
[1:10:44]
work that you're already doing and the work that is still to be done. And
[1:10:49]
uh yeah, the compliance box is a is a
[1:10:51]
really important one for the county or
[1:10:53]
for the municipality tonight.
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Next slide, please.
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It is a lot of pages. So, we just gave
[1:11:00]
you a highlight of some of the key
[1:11:02]
chapters. The executive summary, I hope,
[1:11:05]
is worth the read. That really takes you
[1:11:07]
highlights uh through the highlights of
[1:11:09]
the whole thing. It has some
[1:11:12]
introduction in chapters 1 to three,
[1:11:14]
telling you about some of the
[1:11:15]
methodology and assumptions that went
[1:11:17]
into it. And then you have a good
[1:11:20]
current state in section four. It's a
[1:11:22]
great pull out chapter to see where are
[1:11:24]
we right now. What do we own? What state
[1:11:26]
is this in? What kind of service levels
[1:11:28]
are we providing? There's a financial
[1:11:31]
outlook, which is probably what David's
[1:11:33]
most interested in, section five, that
[1:11:36]
really talks about the the numbers and
[1:11:38]
uh the dollars and cents and the way
[1:11:40]
forward, the options that council might
[1:11:43]
have going forward in terms of um how to
[1:11:46]
address the infrastructure needs. Some
[1:11:48]
really important recommendations in
[1:11:50]
section six. we don't want you to lose
[1:11:52]
sight of because the work begins now.
[1:11:54]
It's not done. We don't want the plan to
[1:11:57]
be finished. We'd like you to open it,
[1:11:58]
use it, and uh keep working on some of
[1:12:00]
those recommendations. And then the rest
[1:12:03]
is uh your chapter 7 to 16 or all the
[1:12:06]
deep dives on all of the asset service
[1:12:09]
areas that you've got. Lots of good
[1:12:10]
stuff to read in there.
[1:12:13]
Next slide, please.
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Quick snapshot right from the plan. You
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own $753 million worth of very important
[1:12:24]
assets. And you can see in the pie chart
[1:12:27]
there how they're divided up. This is
[1:12:29]
replacement value. So this is if you
[1:12:32]
were to um need to replace today uh a
[1:12:37]
one of a unit in fleet or a building um
[1:12:41]
or a storm pipe or a section of road.
[1:12:44]
This would be the cost to replace these
[1:12:47]
items. And it's helpful to see where
[1:12:49]
you've got the the biggest value. Um but
[1:12:52]
sometimes even the smaller value um
[1:12:55]
service areas are have needs as well.
[1:12:58]
You don't want to forget them. So it's a
[1:12:59]
great snapshot.
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Next slide please.
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Similarly, there is a a summary in the
[1:13:07]
asset management plan about condition.
[1:13:10]
Asset condition is one very important
[1:13:13]
indicator but not the only one. So we do
[1:13:16]
tend to spend a lot of time on condition
[1:13:19]
[clears throat] in a large part
[1:13:20]
indicated by age. Although as you mature
[1:13:24]
and uh develop your asset practices,
[1:13:27]
condition can be measured. Condition can
[1:13:30]
be from inspections. Condition can be
[1:13:32]
from calculation or condition can relate
[1:13:35]
or um you can also start looking at
[1:13:37]
performance. So, for now, we started
[1:13:40]
with what you knew and what you had the
[1:13:41]
best data for and your condition
[1:13:43]
profiles shown in the the pie chart
[1:13:45]
there. Um, so there's a fair amount of
[1:13:48]
homework to do on unknown, meaning you
[1:13:50]
don't really know how old the asset is
[1:13:52]
or you don't have a a measure of
[1:13:54]
condition. This is not unusual. It's a
[1:13:57]
reasonably small pie chart or pie slice
[1:14:00]
compared to what we've seen. And you
[1:14:02]
have a great amount, 211, $212 million
[1:14:05]
in very good condition. um and so on.
[1:14:08]
And the condition categories are
[1:14:11]
described down below. So you can see
[1:14:13]
it's really about uh loosely describing
[1:14:16]
is it is it newer and ready to go versus
[1:14:20]
uh aging all the way down to being in
[1:14:22]
poor condition meaning it is exceeded
[1:14:25]
its service life to very poor meaning it
[1:14:28]
is well beyond its service life. Those
[1:14:31]
are more technically defined within the
[1:14:33]
asset management plan. But for
[1:14:35]
understanding today, you're really
[1:14:37]
shooting for the dark green, the light
[1:14:39]
green, and the yellow. That's really the ideal state. Totally acceptable to
[1:14:44]
have lots of assets in the yellow and
[1:14:46]
green. You want to avoid having too many
[1:14:49]
starting to cross into the orange and
[1:14:51]
red category.
[1:14:53]
Next slide, please.
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Some key takeaways that are also
[1:14:59]
repeated. Um there's much more in there,
[1:15:02]
but uh important to note, transportation
[1:15:04]
assets are your biggest uh piece of the
[1:15:07]
portfolio at almost $300 million. Most
[1:15:10]
uh mostly in fair to good condition. And
[1:15:12]
remember, these are averages. So for
[1:15:14]
every road that is full of potholes and
[1:15:17]
in rough shape and one out of town, if
[1:15:20]
there's a new stretch of road, then that
[1:15:22]
average brings you to the middle. So
[1:15:24]
it's something to keep mind of. Um, but
[1:15:27]
you've got uh mostly in fair to good
[1:15:30]
condition. Average road age is about 18
[1:15:33]
years. We use a generally a 60-year
[1:15:36]
service life for roads, but the details
[1:15:38]
are are in the plan as well. And uh
[1:15:41]
you'll see some of the other key points
[1:15:44]
about facilities,
[1:15:46]
um about water. You've got some mixed
[1:15:48]
age profiles there, some renewal that's
[1:15:50]
been happening. You start to see over
[1:15:52]
time that the continued investment that
[1:15:54]
the municipality makes starts to show
[1:15:57]
these numbers start to reflect that that
[1:15:59]
pie chart and that condition information
[1:16:01]
is uh is on an upward trend looking
[1:16:04]
good.
[1:16:05]
Next slide please.
[1:16:09]
So a very quick summary of some of the
[1:16:12]
financials here in the table summarizes
[1:16:16]
the need. The need being taking all of
[1:16:19]
these assets as they are in the
[1:16:21]
condition they are today and aging them
[1:16:26]
or forecasting how their condition might
[1:16:28]
decline in the next 10 years. What
[1:16:31]
investment is needed to either replace
[1:16:34]
those assets when needed um or
[1:16:37]
rehabilitate those assets and on top of
[1:16:40]
that what is needed for growth and on
[1:16:42]
top of that what is needed for service
[1:16:44]
improvements. things like additional
[1:16:47]
trails or um new ex new sidewalk in
[1:16:51]
areas that doesn't have sidewalks. So,
[1:16:53]
those we call service improvements. So,
[1:16:55]
lumping all of those asset needs
[1:16:57]
together, we came out with um a
[1:17:02]
breakdown for both your tax and rate
[1:17:04]
assets. In total, it's about $16.7
[1:17:08]
million per year in capital investment
[1:17:11]
to um reach the proposed levels of
[1:17:14]
service that are described in the plan.
[1:17:16]
And those are to hold your state of good
[1:17:18]
repair steady where it is now, not let
[1:17:21]
things get worse, and continue with all
[1:17:24]
of the planned investments in growth and
[1:17:27]
in your service improvements from your
[1:17:28]
master plans. So taking that into
[1:17:31]
account it roughly for the next 10 years
[1:17:33]
on average um annualizes to about 16.7
[1:17:37]
million.
[1:17:39]
So naturally the next question is how
[1:17:42]
are we doing against that need?
[1:17:43]
Everybody has those fresh budget numbers
[1:17:46]
in their heads. Um 2026 is about 12
[1:17:50]
million. So you're just a few million
[1:17:53]
short on the the average annual need. We
[1:17:56]
put in the slide that if we tend to look
[1:17:59]
a little further back just because
[1:18:01]
budgets change, if we go by your average
[1:18:05]
um spend since 2020, then your average
[1:18:08]
has been about nine almost $10 million a
[1:18:10]
year. So, it's a little bit less, but
[1:18:12]
you're trending in the right direction.
[1:18:14]
The $12 million from 2026 is is showing
[1:18:18]
a a trend in the positive direction. and
[1:18:21]
that shortfall or gap between what's
[1:18:24]
needed and what you have um hopefully
[1:18:26]
will continue to get smaller.
[1:18:32]
Next slide, please.
[1:18:35]
The recommendation section, it's uh
[1:18:38]
worth a read. Staff will spend some time
[1:18:40]
in there. There's really six core
[1:18:43]
recommendations of what to do going
[1:18:46]
forward until your next asset management
[1:18:48]
plan comes due, which would be in five
[1:18:50]
years. Um, but looking at uh making sure
[1:18:53]
you're keeping up with uh connecting
[1:18:56]
these dots. That's probably what the
[1:18:58]
most important one is, the asset
[1:19:00]
management plan to budget to master
[1:19:02]
planning that it's always top of mind.
[1:19:05]
Um, we talk a little bit about levels of
[1:19:07]
service, being um, cognizant of those
[1:19:10]
when master plans are being improved.
[1:19:13]
Uh, financial recommendations,
[1:19:15]
improving some of your asset data,
[1:19:17]
continuing to mature that so that you
[1:19:20]
have access to the data and the data
[1:19:21]
itself is is maturing. You're getting
[1:19:24]
more condition information and
[1:19:25]
performance information. um and uh some
[1:19:28]
recommendations about your people about
[1:19:31]
developing the skills and uh the staff
[1:19:34]
to keep this information current and
[1:19:36]
keep it going forward.
[1:19:40]
And that concludes my presentation.
[1:19:41]
Thank you.
[1:19:43]
>> Thank you, Andrea.
[1:19:46]
Open [clears throat] to questions. Is
[1:19:47]
there any questions for Andrea?
[1:19:50]
>> Councilor Griffin.
[1:19:51]
>> Thank you through you. Just a couple.
[1:19:53]
Um, this first one, um, is about a tiny
[1:19:57]
inaccuracy that I noticed and I think
[1:20:00]
that it's probably negligible in the
[1:20:02]
long run. Like, we're looking at $750
[1:20:04]
million in assets. And I noticed that
[1:20:07]
there was something that was listed in
[1:20:09]
section 2.5 through public consultation
[1:20:11]
as an asset of ours, but it was an
[1:20:13]
error. It was because the public assumed
[1:20:14]
it to belong to us and it does not. And
[1:20:18]
uh, that was the Edward Street staircase
[1:20:20]
situation. And that had me wondering um
[1:20:23]
are there any sort of fail safes that
[1:20:25]
you use to try and differentiate between
[1:20:28]
the things assumed by the public to be
[1:20:30]
assets and the things that are true
[1:20:31]
assets of the municipality? Um and
[1:20:34]
especially for larger assets because
[1:20:35]
obviously this would be a drop in the
[1:20:36]
bucket but others might not be.
[1:20:41]
» Thank you through you deputy mayor. um
[1:20:44]
the data that we use we rely on the uh
[1:20:49]
asset data that is maintained by staff.
[1:20:53]
So we do also in asset in the asset
[1:20:55]
management plan consider the sta the um
[1:20:59]
public input that has been gathered
[1:21:02]
through other engagement exercises. We
[1:21:04]
didn't have time to do public engagement
[1:21:06]
this time. So, I'm not certain if maybe
[1:21:08]
we were quoting there was some public
[1:21:10]
input about concern with that asset, but
[1:21:13]
you can rest assured that really what's
[1:21:15]
on the municipal books is strictly what
[1:21:18]
is considered in this asset management
[1:21:20]
plan.
[1:21:21]
>> Thank you,
[1:21:23]
Councelor Griffin.
[1:21:24]
>> Thank you so much. I do appreciate that.
[1:21:26]
And the next question is about the
[1:21:28]
ongoing asset management planning. So I
[1:21:30]
know that we have to do an update every
[1:21:33]
five years and that you've recommended
[1:21:35]
that there should be yearly adjustments
[1:21:37]
based on any changes that are coming in.
[1:21:39]
Uh right now our upper tier is
[1:21:41]
anticipating road rationalization and
[1:21:44]
it's likely that we are going to be
[1:21:46]
taking on over the course of a number of
[1:21:48]
years several county roads for our own
[1:21:51]
management. Um, obviously they'll have
[1:21:54]
an asset management plan of their own,
[1:21:56]
but is there at this point a recommended
[1:21:59]
protocol for how we adopt the part of
[1:22:02]
their asset manage plan asset management
[1:22:05]
plan into ours and how we figure out
[1:22:07]
what needs to come with that for us for
[1:22:09]
its care.
[1:22:11]
Andrea,
[1:22:17]
» not the first time that um we've uh
[1:22:19]
assisted with clients that are going
[1:22:21]
through that transition. Um there is a a reliable sequence to first of all
[1:22:28]
start with the understanding the scope
[1:22:31]
of their asset management plan and the
[1:22:32]
assumptions that went behind it and then
[1:22:35]
pulling what is of the most value and
[1:22:38]
the assumptions that make sense into
[1:22:40]
your umbrella. So yes, that has to be
[1:22:42]
done as that becomes official and
[1:22:45]
there's a lot of prep work that can be
[1:22:47]
done in advance. Um but these are
[1:22:49]
long-term plans. So if you assume those
[1:22:52]
responsibilities, but the plan takes a
[1:22:54]
little bit to catch up, it's most
[1:22:56]
important about the baton pass, getting
[1:22:58]
the people um communicating about what
[1:23:01]
went into the assumptions of one to the
[1:23:03]
other. Um and then that would fold into
[1:23:05]
your asset management plan for sure.
[1:23:09]
>> Thank you. Councelor Graham, you had a
[1:23:11]
question.
[1:23:12]
>> I did. Uh so just looking at the 83%
[1:23:17]
uh SOGR and if we have uh 753 million
[1:23:22]
worth of assets and we have an unknown
[1:23:26]
value of 93.7
[1:23:28]
million of those assets was that I think
[1:23:32]
it's like 12% maybe 12 and a half%
[1:23:34]
somewhere around there if my brain gets
[1:23:36]
that right now. um did you remove that
[1:23:40]
to come up with the 83%
[1:23:42]
that are in a state of good repair or
[1:23:45]
was it on one side or the other side or
[1:23:48]
how how did that calculation work
[1:23:52]
through you deputy mayor? Uh yes. So I
[1:23:54]
looked over to Zach because he's uh he
[1:23:57]
knows the numbers inside and out rather
[1:23:59]
than portray an inflated number. We
[1:24:01]
don't know what the state of those um
[1:24:04]
unknown assets is, but of the assets
[1:24:06]
that you have the data for and you're
[1:24:08]
familiar with, it was 83% by value of
[1:24:12]
those assets that are in a state of good
[1:24:14]
repair.
[1:24:16]
Okay. So that $93.7 million of assets
[1:24:19]
were removed from any calculations. Then
[1:24:22]
when we're looking at your calculations,
[1:24:26]
>> you deputy mayor. not removed entirely
[1:24:29]
just really in that picture of uh
[1:24:31]
showing you condition. So we do because
[1:24:34]
we know the value of those assets
[1:24:36]
they're they continue to be included.
[1:24:38]
It's just that condition profile. It's
[1:24:40]
not
[1:24:42]
>> okay. Thank you.
[1:24:44]
>> Any other questions?
[1:24:48]
done.
[1:24:50]
>> Do you find many municipalities now are
[1:24:52]
providing links on their staff reports
[1:24:54]
back to the asset management plan so
[1:24:55]
that everything ties together?
[1:25:00]
» Yes.
[1:25:01]
Also on the um on staff reports talking
[1:25:05]
about uh how this particular request in
[1:25:09]
the report links back or aligns with or
[1:25:12]
doesn't align with also the policy. So,
[1:25:15]
the asset management policy, the asset
[1:25:18]
management plan, but it's a great
[1:25:19]
practice to link uh budget, business
[1:25:21]
cases, staff reports, the the more
[1:25:24]
vocabulary uh that's used in the asset
[1:25:27]
management plan, the better.
[1:25:31]
Any other questions?
[1:25:33]
[cough and clears throat]
[1:25:35]
Seeing none, well, thank you, Andrea.
[1:25:36]
Appreciate the report.
[1:25:43]
Moving on to correspondence requiring
[1:25:45]
action. County of Elgen joint
[1:25:47]
accessibility
[1:25:48]
status report for 2025.
[1:25:51]
[clears throat]
[1:25:52]
Any questions or comments on that?
[1:25:56]
Can I get a mover and second to approve?
[1:25:59]
Councelor Connors. Councelor Bachmann.
[1:26:04]
» Mr. Deputy Mayor, the motion reads,
[1:26:05]
moved by councelor Connors, a seconded
[1:26:07]
by councelor Bachmann, the 2025 joint
[1:26:09]
annual accessibility status report be
[1:26:11]
received for information.
[1:26:14]
>> All in favor?
[1:26:17]
Motion carries.
[1:26:19]
And Ministry of Transportation notice of
[1:26:21]
study commencement for number three
[1:26:23]
highway.
[1:26:26]
Uh move and second. Councelor Graham or
[1:26:29]
councelor Griffin. Councelor Watson.
[1:26:32]
Questions or comments? Seeing
[1:26:35]
none,
[1:26:37]
>> Deputy Mayor Noble, the motion reads,
[1:26:39]
moved by councelor Griffin, seconded by
[1:26:40]
councelor Watson, that correspondence
[1:26:42]
item number one be received for
[1:26:43]
information.
[1:26:45]
>> All in favor?
[1:26:48]
Motion carries
[1:26:50]
and reports. Director of Planning and
[1:26:52]
Engineering Services DPE 1226
[1:26:56]
application for zoning bylaw amendment.
[1:27:02]
Is somebody speaking to this one or
[1:27:06]
no? Okay. Oh,
[1:27:14]
thank you. This is just a quick um this
[1:27:16]
is a decision report and followup to the
[1:27:18]
public meeting that was held for the
[1:27:20]
same uh application on the February 9th.
[1:27:22]
So, this report has the recommendations
[1:27:24]
for council for a decision on the zoning
[1:27:27]
bylaw amendment itself.
[1:27:28]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:27:31]
Mover and seconder.
[1:27:33]
Councelor Connors, councelor Bachmann.
[1:27:36]
Any questions or comments?
[1:27:39]
All in favor?
[1:27:41]
Motion carries.
[1:27:44]
And DPE 1526, building department fees
[1:27:49]
public meeting.
[1:27:51]
Uh mover and seconder.
[1:27:54]
Councelor Griffin. Councelor Watson.
[1:27:57]
Any questions or comments on this?
[1:28:01]
Mayor Sloan.
[1:28:04]
>> Thank you through the deputy mayor. I
[1:28:06]
realize there's 21 days notice. My
[1:28:08]
question is um at what point we go to
[1:28:12]
the public and we tell them already um
[1:28:14]
what fees we're looking at increasing
[1:28:17]
and then we come back to council. I just
[1:28:18]
want some more information, please.
[1:28:22]
>> Mr. Brooks.
[1:28:24]
>> Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Um the intent
[1:28:27]
would be to hold the public meeting uh
[1:28:30]
prior to the council meeting in April.
[1:28:33]
So that public meeting would take place
[1:28:35]
and then uh uh staff anticipate bringing
[1:28:39]
a report forward recommending uh those
[1:28:42]
fees. So, uh, council would be able to,
[1:28:46]
um, either approve the fees at that, uh,
[1:28:48]
meeting in April or defer, uh, that
[1:28:51]
report to a future meeting if there are
[1:28:54]
any changes that, uh, council would like
[1:28:56]
to see addressed through that building
[1:28:58]
fee report.
[1:29:00]
>> Okay. Thank you. Followup, Mayor Sloan.
[1:29:04]
» Thank you. Uh, through the deputy mayor
[1:29:06]
to Mr. Brooks. So, at the open house per
[1:29:09]
se, we're going to be telling the people
[1:29:11]
we're going to be increasing fees and
[1:29:13]
asking just for feedback. We're not
[1:29:14]
going to be giving um set fees at that
[1:29:16]
point. Thank you,
[1:29:19]
Mr.
[1:29:20]
>> Uh the report will be released prior to
[1:29:22]
the meeting. Um it won't be an openhouse
[1:29:25]
style meeting. The consultant will
[1:29:26]
actually um come in and do a
[1:29:29]
presentation to council. The public will
[1:29:31]
be invited uh to that public meeting and
[1:29:34]
be able to provide uh comment. um at the meeting for um council's
[1:29:39]
consideration.
[1:29:41]
>> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?
[1:29:51]
» Typobyl. The motion for that is moved by
[1:29:53]
councelor Griffin, seconded by councelor
[1:29:55]
Watson that staff be directed to issue
[1:29:57]
21 days notice of a building fees public
[1:30:00]
meeting to be held on April 13, 2026.
[1:30:03]
>> All in favor?
[1:30:06]
Motion carries.
[1:30:08]
DPE1626
[1:30:10]
Powers drain petition for drainage
[1:30:12]
works. Mover and seconder.
[1:30:15]
Council Watson, Councelor Connors.
[1:30:18]
Any questions or comments?
[1:30:26]
» Mr. Deputy Mayor, the motion reads,
[1:30:28]
moved by councelor Watson, seconded by
[1:30:29]
councelor Connors, that the drainage
[1:30:31]
works proceed as described in the
[1:30:32]
petitions received from KN&R Davis Farm
[1:30:35]
Limited, the Foster Matthews Farm, Sarah
[1:30:37]
Hughes and Alan Taylor, and that Brandon
[1:30:39]
Whitner Penge of Spreed Associates
[1:30:41]
Limited be appointed to prepare a report
[1:30:43]
under section 4 in addition to the
[1:30:45]
previous appointment under section 7811
[1:30:49]
of the drainage act for the power drain.
[1:30:52]
>> All in favor?
[1:30:55]
Motion carries.
[1:30:58]
DPE1 1726 award for proposal C 202630
[1:31:04]
breakwater extension municipal class
[1:31:08]
environmental assessment.
[1:31:10]
Mover and seconder.
[1:31:13]
Councelor Bachmann
[1:31:15]
Councelor Griffin questions
[1:31:19]
Sloan.
[1:31:23]
Thank you through the deputy mayor to
[1:31:25]
Mr. Brooks. Couple of questions. One, um
[1:31:28]
it looks like when it talks about the
[1:31:31]
three engineering consulting firms,
[1:31:33]
Rigs, Delta, and uh Shore Plan with whom
[1:31:36]
we've all dealt, um couple of things.
[1:31:39]
Sometimes when we get a a proposal like
[1:31:42]
this, it will have what the other bids
[1:31:44]
were. Um so it's a two-fold question.
[1:31:46]
One, is that information available? and
[1:31:49]
B, when it comes to the matrix of how
[1:31:52]
the submissions worked, I just want to
[1:31:54]
be comfortable in understanding it looks
[1:31:56]
like there were more um pieces to this
[1:31:59]
than just uh the financial. So, could
[1:32:02]
you give me a little bit of an
[1:32:03]
understanding of how this uh um the
[1:32:06]
cumulative score was was found? Thank
[1:32:09]
you,
[1:32:11]
>> Mr. Brooks.
[1:32:12]
>> Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, there's
[1:32:14]
uh these proposals are are scored
[1:32:17]
utilizing a two envelope process. So
[1:32:20]
what that means is staff will open um
[1:32:24]
the technical uh envelope first and
[1:32:27]
provide a score based on the technical
[1:32:29]
aspects of the proposal. So it will look
[1:32:31]
at things like the project team, the
[1:32:33]
project manager, project experience, the
[1:32:37]
technical proposal of
[1:32:39]
um the proposal itself. It'll staff will
[1:32:43]
then pro so for each consultant that
[1:32:46]
makes a submission a score is provided
[1:32:48]
for each consultant. Once that that
[1:32:51]
technical information is scored the
[1:32:53]
second envelope uh is opened with um uh
[1:32:58]
the the cost of the project. So you
[1:33:02]
combine the cost of the project with the
[1:33:04]
technical evaluation to um score a
[1:33:07]
winner on this one. um my understanding
[1:33:10]
of the scoring of the technical
[1:33:12]
proposals uh the technical proposals
[1:33:15]
were all fairly close and it ultimately
[1:33:18]
it was the cost that uh dictated uh the
[1:33:22]
winning score on this one. Uh now
[1:33:25]
typically the municipality does not make
[1:33:28]
public all of the costs only makes
[1:33:30]
public the uh winning um proposal.
[1:33:36]
>> Thank you. Followup. M Mayor Sloan,
[1:33:38]
>> thanks very much to the deputy mayor.
[1:33:39]
Thanks very much, Mr. Brooks, for the
[1:33:41]
clarification. When we first came into
[1:33:43]
office, uh there was the infamous Front
[1:33:46]
Street project which laid out three
[1:33:48]
different prices. When we're doing a uh
[1:33:51]
what's called a two envelope system, is
[1:33:53]
that a change in policy? Is that
[1:33:54]
something new or is that just pertaining
[1:33:56]
to this file? That's my question. Thank
[1:33:58]
you,
[1:34:00]
>> Mr. Brooks.
[1:34:01]
Uh there are two typical processes that
[1:34:04]
the municipality utilizes to procure um
[1:34:07]
services. Uh one being a tender process
[1:34:10]
and that's the process that uh the front
[1:34:14]
street process followed. We have a
[1:34:16]
detailed scope of work that we have
[1:34:19]
contractors price and we go strictly by
[1:34:23]
price in a tendering situation. With a
[1:34:26]
project such as this, it's a fairly
[1:34:28]
complex project and the intent of the uh
[1:34:32]
municipal class EA is determined to
[1:34:35]
determine the best solution uh for the
[1:34:38]
problem that's been identified. In this
[1:34:40]
case, when we're talking about the
[1:34:41]
breakwater extension, we're talking
[1:34:44]
about solving the problem of the flood
[1:34:45]
upbrush through the harbor. So, we don't
[1:34:48]
have a detailed set of specifications in
[1:34:50]
this instance. That's where we try and
[1:34:53]
define what the problem is and we have
[1:34:55]
proposals submitted to um identify what
[1:34:58]
the problems are and potential
[1:35:00]
solutions. So that's when we go to this
[1:35:02]
kind of twostep uh proposal process.
[1:35:06]
>> Okay. Thank you. Any further questions?
[1:35:09]
Councelor Connors.
[1:35:11]
>> Uh you deputy mayor to Mr. Brooks. Um,
[1:35:15]
so in a tender situation, we would
[1:35:17]
publish the amounts of the other biders,
[1:35:22]
but this is more RFP. Is that why we're
[1:35:25]
not publishing? Because we might want to
[1:35:28]
know what the other consultants bid on
[1:35:30]
it. I mean, is it because of the This is
[1:35:33]
an RFP. Is that why?
[1:35:37]
>> Uh, and typically just with these RFPs,
[1:35:40]
we don't uh uh release those other
[1:35:42]
prices. we only release the um price of
[1:35:45]
the um winning bid. Now, that might be a
[1:35:49]
question better geared toward our
[1:35:51]
procurement coordinator uh rather than
[1:35:53]
myself, but just typical past practice.
[1:35:56]
We only release um the winning bid on a
[1:35:58]
proposal. Tenders um a tender is done
[1:36:02]
through a public process. All the
[1:36:03]
tendering, all the final costs of a
[1:36:06]
tender are posted on uh what we would
[1:36:09]
use as bids and tenders. So all the
[1:36:11]
contractors can see what each individual
[1:36:13]
bid were on on a tendering project.
[1:36:17]
>> John, you have some information.
[1:36:19]
>> Just generally uh RFPs will have some
[1:36:21]
protections built into them for any
[1:36:23]
proprietary information. So and I'm not
[1:36:26]
sure if that was the case here, but I've
[1:36:27]
seen where RFPs are protected from
[1:36:29]
releasing some information uh just for
[1:36:32]
that specific reason.
[1:36:37]
Is some of this too because it was like
[1:36:38]
a design build where they they were
[1:36:41]
giving information on how that project
[1:36:44]
was going to unfold. Mr. Brooks? No.
[1:36:46]
Yes.
[1:36:47]
>> Uh this one isn't uh a design build.
[1:36:50]
It's really just a class environmental
[1:36:53]
assessment. So what it'll do is, like I
[1:36:55]
said, consider what the problem is and
[1:36:59]
it'll provide a number of different
[1:37:00]
alternatives that the municipality can
[1:37:02]
consider and provide a preferred
[1:37:04]
alternative. uh taking into account a
[1:37:07]
number of different factors such as
[1:37:10]
cost, environmental impacts, social
[1:37:12]
impacts, that sort of thing.
[1:37:14]
>> Okay, thank you.
[1:37:16]
Any other questions?
[1:37:20]
Right.
[1:37:22]
Are we ready for the question?
[1:37:24]
>> Deputy Mayor Noble through you to
[1:37:26]
council. The motion for that would be
[1:37:27]
moved by councelor Bachmann, seconded by
[1:37:29]
councelor Griffin that the proposal
[1:37:31]
submitted by Delta Science and
[1:37:32]
Engineering, Inc. for the Breakwater
[1:37:34]
Extension Municipal Class Environmental
[1:37:36]
Assessment Project be accepted for the
[1:37:39]
total cost of $249,993
[1:37:43]
excluding HST. That the director of
[1:37:45]
corporate services and treasurer be
[1:37:46]
authorized to redistribute $500 from the
[1:37:49]
taxf funded portion of capital project
[1:37:51]
number 202629
[1:37:53]
to project number 202630
[1:37:56]
to provide additional funding for the
[1:37:57]
over overspend to budget and that the
[1:37:59]
mayor and clerk be authorized to execute
[1:38:01]
the contract.
[1:38:03]
All in favor?
[1:38:06]
Motion carries.
[1:38:09]
Director of Financial Services,
[1:38:11]
Treasurer DCS0226,
[1:38:16]
Municipality of Central Elgen Asset
[1:38:17]
Management Plan.
[1:38:21]
Over and second for this. Councelor
[1:38:24]
Griffin. Councelor Bachmann.
[1:38:27]
Questions?
[1:38:30]
Nope. No questions.
[1:38:33]
All right,
[1:38:35]
Deputy Mayor Noble. The motion for that
[1:38:37]
is moved by councelor Griffin, seconded
[1:38:38]
by councelor Bogman that the
[1:38:40]
municipality of central Elgen asset
[1:38:42]
management plan dated November 2025 be
[1:38:44]
adopted.
[1:38:46]
>> All in favor.
[1:38:50]
Motion carries.
[1:38:52]
And
[1:38:54]
DCS 0326
[1:38:57]
statement of council renumeration and
[1:38:59]
expense. Mover and seconder.
[1:39:02]
Councelor Connors, Councelor Watson.
[1:39:06]
Questions?
[1:39:10]
Seeing none,
[1:39:13]
Deputy Mayor Noble, the motion reads,
[1:39:14]
moved by Councelor Connor, seconded by
[1:39:16]
Councelor Watson that report DFS 226
[1:39:19]
2025, statement of remuneration and
[1:39:21]
expenses for council members be received
[1:39:23]
for information.
[1:39:25]
>> All in favor?
[1:39:30]
Motion carries. Director of fire rescue
[1:39:32]
service fire chief FS0126
[1:39:37]
open air burn bylaw. Mover and seconder.
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Councelor Connors. Councelor Griffin.
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Questions or comments?
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Mayor Sloan.
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Thank you through the deputy mayor to
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the chief. Chief, um we've been doing
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these for some time and you know people
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call in and um ask for their um say that
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they're having a fire. Tell me a little
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bit about what's going to be needed now
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with respect to will there be any extra
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staffing required or diligence required.
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I just want to give an as we're changing
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something I don't think that's been
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changed in a while. I just want to get
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an understanding for the end user how it
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will affect them and what the effect to
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the council will be or the municipality
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with respect to any potential costs.
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Thank you.
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>> Uh through you deputy mayor. Um so with
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the new process um there is we have
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included an inspection uh with every
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open air burn permit. So in the past
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people would just call it in. we would
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instantly issue a permit um without any
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real uh eyes on the property on where
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the burn's happening uh location in
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comparison to buildings other
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structures. So we have included an
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inspection process in the uh in the burn
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permit application process for
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agricultural burns and for special
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burns. This is fairly customary in uh in
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burn permits especially now in the
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liability age that we are in. Um the
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other component that is in there is um
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they used to be where we would have
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permits that were approved for um two to
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three months. We now allow a burn to be
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open for one year. We inspect it. Um
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most of these are agricultural farming
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properties. We've been approved an area
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where they can do that burn where that
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burn is approved. So that burn permit is
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uh open and available for one-year
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period. Um, and then [clears throat]
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there has been a $50 uh burn permit
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application fee that's been put on uh
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with that that was added in the fees uh
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bylaw this year, the the rates and fees
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bylaw this year um to account for some
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of that staff time that it takes to to
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process these permits, issue the permits
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and do the inspection. So from a
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corporate risk perspective, the
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inspection piece is the biggest change,
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but it does protect us in quite a bit uh
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in that that sense.
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followup. Mayor Sloan,
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>> thanks uh through the deputy mayor. Two
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questions. When it comes to protecting
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us, have have we had an issue in the
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past and that we needed protection on
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and B, if a agricultural person is going
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to phone and they're going to say
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they've got some leaves to burn, they
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have to have a permit for $50. They have
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to have someone from Central Elgen come
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out. Um, and what do we offer for timing
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for that? Because right now we have
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people that are calling looking for it
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within a certain amount of time. I I
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don't understand how this is going to
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affect the end user with respect to
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timing if you could clarify please.
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Thank you.
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>> Yeah. So right now we don't have a set
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time parameter on our uh burn permits.
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So um we have some that you know based
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on staff availability that we can turn
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around fairly quickly. We have some that
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take uh that that you know do take some
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time. We have put timing parameters
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within the bylaw um that within 7 days
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we'll make sure that that permit is
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approved and that it's inspected. Uh
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right now we're running about a 2-day uh
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turnaround on all of our inspections
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because we now have the the fire
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prevention officer uh contract in place.
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So that's helping with that workload.
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» Okay.
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Um any other questions?
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Seeing none,
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>> the motion for that is moved by
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councelor Connors, seconded by councelor
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Griffin, that bylaw number 202621 being
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a bylaw to regulate and control the
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setting of fires in the open air and to
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provide for the prevention of fire open
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air burn bylaw be adopted and the staff
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be directed to implement the updated
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open air burning bylaw, including public
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communication, website updates, and
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administrative adjustments necessary to
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support enforcement and compliance.
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All those in favor?
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Motion carries.
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Okay. Next. FS0226
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Fire Rescue Service annual report. Mover
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and seconder.
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Council Connors. Councelor Bachmann.
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Questions?
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Is the chief
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Seeing none,
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>> Deputy Mayor Noble, the motion for that
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is moved by councelor Connors, seconded
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by councelor Bogman that report FS226
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regarding the 2025 Central Log and Fire
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Rescue Services annual report be
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received for information.
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>> All in favor?
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Motion carries.
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Director of Public Works and Community
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Services, PWCS0326,
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request for municipal letter of support
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accessible kayak launcher.
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Mover and seconder. Councelor Griffin.
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Second. Councelor Graham.
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And anybody speaking to this? No. Okay.
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Uh
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any questions?
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Seeing none, ask question. All in favor?
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Motion carries
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and PWCS0426
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water system annual reports.
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Hoover and seconder.
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Councelor Griffin, Councelor Connors.
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Any questions?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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Motion carries.
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On to bylaws.
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Are we doing these together? Okay. So,
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bylaw 2026 019,
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bylaw 2026
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021,
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and bylaw 202560.
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Mover and seconder.
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Councelor Bachmann, councelor, I'll get
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Mayor Sloan on there.
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All in favor?
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And they carry.
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and motion to move into closed.
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Councelor Connors, Councelor Bachmann.
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All in favor?
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And we are moving to close. Thank you.