[0:00] All right, we'll be in order. We have the attendance. Yes. Any changes or additions in the agenda? Nope. I didn't know that we didn't. The NEC right of way permit did not make it on the agenda, because it was received after. Everyone knows about it, but that's, that's the one addition.

[0:28] Well, for a motion to approve the minutes, I'm on this point, so we meet on the motion.

[0:35] On the paper.

[0:37] Wait, did I get a sign?

[0:38] It wasn't you, there's a second, I can't approve it, second, it's on the paper.

[0:43] I am.

[0:44] Oh, it's kind of it.

[0:45] I wonder what you get.

[0:46] You're right.

[0:47] You're right.

[0:48] You're right.

[0:49] You're right.

[0:54] You're right.

[0:56] public comment, there is none, or report, went a little, or is not here, so we're good.

[1:05] We did, do you have some stuff on?

[1:08] I just wanted to pass along thanks from Chad McGann of the Municipal Rose General Permit.

[1:17] The town acted very quickly to do some work on East Echo Lake Road.

[1:25] The photos look great. He doesn't see any compliance issues. Just thanks to the town for the speedy work.

[1:32] So on that, it actually reminded me of something. If there were, there's no way that Jackson's like to update the agenda with an item that we can actually talk about right now, but it could possibly actually

[1:43] way that would be to sign on to the rental of the hydroceder that Derby town Derby owns.

[1:51] So the town Derby, we don't want to thank them, they let us borrow the hydroceder, we

[1:57] just bought the seed and the product we needed.

[2:00] And I had a conversation with the road foreman and apparently they do a little thing where

[2:06] towns can sign on to it. I think he said it was around $600 a year and then you pay a couple

[2:13] of dollars a year for maintenance or whatever. He said the way as it goes that our board

[2:19] needs to approve, basically take action on signing on to that deal, and then they accept

[2:27] it and they approve it too. So I don't know if it's something that you guys wanted. We can

[2:31] push it down the road and we got time, right? We can get through the winter and have the conversation

[2:36] But I think it's something that we should look at.

[2:38] It was a good idea.

[2:39] There's a cut westmore.

[2:40] Actually, we thought westmore had a hydrocedure

[2:42] than they're part of the hydrocedure.

[2:44] Okay.

[2:44] The hydrocedure was great.

[2:46] And he said, the coverture was getting ready to sign on right now.

[2:50] The hydrocedure, which I mean, for everybody's information,

[2:53] which I think everybody knows,

[2:54] is it's just like a product of like a sticky product

[2:57] that has grass seed mixed into it,

[3:00] that you spray on to any open surface.

[3:02] And to your point,

[3:03] on the guy from the state that made a comment that the other requirement is that when we

[3:08] do work that there's no open dirt service, so that grass grows quickly, you know, let's

[3:15] put that on.

[3:16] So, I guess what I'd like to do is because he told me, I would like to make a motion and

[3:23] I'm going to go off what he told me that the price was and if something changes then we'll

[3:28] get time.

[3:29] We'll come back.

[3:30] How much use of it do we get?

[3:32] that we can use it, I think we can use it whenever we want

[3:34] through the year, we just have to schedule with Derby.

[3:37] And then he said it was a $200 fee.

[3:40] I don't know if it was like a maintenance fee

[3:41] when it uses it each time, you know what I mean?

[3:43] But I think that what we would do is we would,

[3:48] and I can wait, we can get a little more information on what

[3:51] what we would do is we would do big projects

[3:53] or whatever, and then we would rent that way.

[3:55] And go back to the old one.

[3:57] Yeah, great.

[3:58] I don't know if we would do it all the time,

[4:00] I can basically, I tried to, I wanted to get more information from you guys, you guys

[4:06] got to take action and then you want to sign in on the deal and then Derby takes it.

[4:11] So ready to sit right now.

[4:11] They're waiting for commentary to get back to them with that.

[4:15] I think we should go ahead with it before there's no spaces.

[4:18] All right.

[4:18] So I'm going to make a motion that we move forward with signing on with Derby's $600 a

[4:28] rental process for the hydro-seater with the expectation that there's a fee when we eat after

[4:37] that each time we use it or a rental fee. I think it was like $200 and I was like, yeah, I just can't

[4:41] remember when I was every time we used it or once a year on top of that, but the machine's very expensive.

[4:47] Yeah, and you know, like we're gonna have to purchase one, but I'll make that motion.

[4:54] Okay, is that clear enough where you call it? Is it like clear smudger?

[4:57] No, that's lost.

[4:58] Second.

[4:59] All right, all in favor.

[5:01] Hi.

[5:01] I close.

[5:02] Nice to have you.

[5:04] If you could just shoot me an email when you give a second call,

[5:07] and you want to hear your notes of that about that approval,

[5:10] so I'll reach out to him and let him know to put...

[5:13] Or I'll talk to Steve John girl there on the Slack board about...

[5:16] Okay.

[5:17] If anything changes from what we talk about,

[5:20] we'll come back to the board.

[5:26] I do, I will say we did a site visit on Mill Street for a complaint that came in, came

[5:34] in over with me, never been looked good there, everybody that's looked at it always said

[5:40] it was good.

[5:41] I think the issue is that there's been a bunch of work and there's some change in the

[5:45] look.

[5:45] and I think the resident was going to get some gravel to raise their driveway or whatever.

[5:51] And then we also have a ride up town farm road.

[5:57] We didn't want to do a lot of work up there with nothing.

[6:00] We just pulling in the sides of the ditches and he held it up a bunch of material

[6:04] that we had sitting in the pit on the 10 miles square road.

[6:07] That seems to be holding the whole area really well.

[6:11] Changed a few culverts and stuff.

[6:12] you think they'll get to the end of the room but they recommend they want to take a ride up and take a ride up it

[6:20] does bring me to a question I'd like to know and maybe I don't know if Colin you could help me

[6:24] research this or see if there's anything on it how did we come to own town farm and why do we own town farm

[6:32] I don't know but I can look into it I know why we own gravel pits right I know why do we own

[6:39] and would lot that we have to meet here.

[6:42] Yeah, that preceded me, so I can-

[6:44] I'll put you to the name of the road, right?

[6:47] I think maybe we'll find out we're just always on to it.

[6:49] Just question why we are in a chunk of land up there

[6:53] that is just-

[6:54] Right.

[6:55] Right.

[6:56] I'm not-

[6:57] I'm not-

[6:58] I'm just saying why do we only have wind up with it?

[7:00] What's the-

[7:01] I kind of think about-

[7:02] Well, many towns had town farms, and that's-

[7:09] Charleston has been in possession of it continuously.

[7:13] I know it's been ever since I've been so long as I've never thought about it.

[7:17] So maybe it was just our town farm, which was a social agency, basically, right?

[7:26] It wouldn't change us maintaining the road, right, but is there a benefit or a negative

[7:30] film in that?

[7:32] I don't know.

[7:33] And I'm not employing.

[7:35] I'm just curious.

[7:36] I kind of think about the conversations we've had in Biden.

[7:39] in the pit and trying to make sure the public understands

[7:42] why and how we ended up with it and what it's for,

[7:45] what it used to be for, even going to the point

[7:48] of like talking about all that,

[7:50] all the way up to the point we don't need it.

[7:53] I don't know.

[7:54] Yeah.

[7:57] Maybe the Plane Commission might be able to research

[7:59] that and figure out how we ended up with it's

[8:02] in our pound playing right now, obviously.

[8:05] Yeah, I mean, my guess is that it was,

[8:11] put aside by the town as a way to help people who've had no land to grow food,

[8:17] and that there's no way to disperse it that ever came up, so the town owns it by default,

[8:22] but I'll be glad to try to find out. Is it landlocked? I mean, I don't know nothing about the

[8:29] property. I mean, I don't know what to do with. I think most many of those lands have just converted

[8:36] to public recreational use you know it's it's available to because we we do use it for the

[8:44] scooter trail right would you be able to try those through it if hunting is permitting they do

[8:50] some logging up there well we have to know it through do some clearing or something so it it spans

[8:56] the the land spans the town line and the westmore acreage is in current use for tax savings and so that

[9:05] Yeah, it's the part that has.

[9:07] I don't like it, I'll ask more too over there.

[9:11] I think it was probably always part of the same.

[9:14] Interesting.

[9:15] Yeah, I just didn't know.

[9:16] Maybe it'd be good to know.

[9:17] Why the town farm would be in another town

[9:19] is confusing, though.

[9:20] Hey, Vassa, who knows?

[9:22] You know, you may join them.

[9:23] That's where it could have been donated.

[9:25] Yeah, somebody probably just donated it.

[9:27] And it's just always been kept up and maintained.

[9:30] But I know a lot of people use it, like,

[9:32] take a point for hunting, screwing things like that.

[9:34] I'm not buying it about, I just made me think the other day over.

[9:37] No, it doesn't have a new forest turn.

[9:40] Yes, yeah.

[9:41] Jenny, a really nice woman.

[9:43] Great.

[9:43] I had a meeting with her this morning, so.

[9:45] Oh, good.

[9:46] Yeah, well, then, yeah, that's.

[9:47] Not about this, but.

[9:48] But that's going to come up, because we have to check in on maintenance on that person.

[9:57] Okay, I don't have anything else on the road reporting, but I also, all right,

[10:01] there's a receipt proposed to 1026 town plan from the planning commissioner.

[10:06] So we produced our first town plan in 2013 and second

[10:20] in 2018, this is now a third.

[10:27] In those years, the role of the town plan seems to have changed.

[10:37] Historically, the town plan has been a way for a town to express its views about where

[10:44] it wants to go.

[10:47] And I think that that has changed, most importantly, changed by Act 181, which was passed

[10:58] a couple of years ago.

[10:59] The structure, the way it used to operate, you had state government.

[11:09] And then you had all of the 250 apparatus and you had regional planning commissions throughout

[11:19] the state, I think is 11 of them, or something like that.

[11:22] But they faced it down to the towns and cities and gave them expertise in areas they couldn't

[11:32] afford to keep expertise in so that they could come up with a robust town plan.

[11:39] They were working with the towns.

[11:45] In my observation, that is altered because the Land Use Review Board, LURB, a new creature

[11:59] in state government created by Act 181,

[12:05] has with the enabling legislation converted

[12:09] the role of the Regional Commission to becoming an enforcement mechanism.

[12:15] They now, rather than facing the towns to help them, they're facing the state government

[12:22] to support its work.

[12:25] That's a fundamental change in role.

[12:29] And it has created a great deal of friction between the cities and towns and the regional

[12:41] planning commissions because they're now agents of the Land Use Review Board.

[12:52] That body is, I think it's a six-member body, it's still coming into existence, it's still

[12:57] inventing itself.

[12:59] Reason I raised this is because I think the town plan is going to morph into one of the

[13:06] most important documents that the town has to produce. This might take five years, this

[13:13] might take three years, this might never happen. But it seems to me that the town plan has

[13:23] become a mechanism for the state to reach into the towns and to have direct control over their

[13:34] The biggest change from Act 181 is the change from a size-based process to a land-based process.

[13:46] The entire state has been mapped every acre.

[13:49] And those maps, even though they've repealed sections of 181, they still exist and they're waiting to be used.

[14:00] I believe that the powers that brought 181 into being are going to continue their effort

[14:11] to implement it, and someday try to implement it in its original fullness.

[14:17] I don't know if they'll be successful or not, but I

[14:24] have requested to be placed on the

[14:27] in VDA board as the representative for this town on that regional planning commissions board.

[14:34] Because I think it is now the site of trouble.

[14:40] My intention is to keep a very close eye on them, to attend every single meeting and to

[14:45] report to you when I need to.

[14:49] You may not be aware, but we voted against passing the regional plan as a town.

[14:56] And it ended up that of the...

[15:00] Towns that voted on that, and I think there might have been 15 that were in attendance.

[15:08] Three other towns, total of four towns voted not to send the regional plans, planning commission up to the land review board. That surprised me. And when a guy, two people, eloquently talked about process and how it's changed.

[15:31] changed. I said, I'm going to vote against this, too. And I did it and I'm sure it's in

[15:37] support. This would not violate any views that anyone here has because I do think I'm pretty

[15:44] well attuned to the general feeling in the middle of the town, which is we'd like to run our own

[15:50] lives. Thank you. This is going to be a tremendous source of tension. And it's only going to grow

[16:01] So, the source of these legislative moves to control the towns is coming directly from

[16:10] the state legislature, it's coming directly from individual legislators who are trying

[16:17] to impose an environmental scheme

[16:23] in Vermont.

[16:26] I'm not going to characterize that, I'll leave it up to you and will certainly help you learn

[16:32] and more about it, but tonight, just as I give you this draft plan, I want to sound

[16:39] in a long, that things have changed, and that the town planning commission, the town

[16:47] plan, the regional commission, and the land use review board are going to become powerful

[16:56] and more important than they used to be.

[16:58] The

[17:02] attitude that we took as we drafted this version was that the town has a clear view

[17:08] of how it wants to conduct itself.

[17:11] It is not always in accordance with some of the state's desires and that our job is to

[17:19] try to hold to the values of our town and see how we fare in the process.

[17:27] It could be that this will be rejected.

[17:31] And it won't be, it'll be a lot to go into play, but it will not have the extra

[17:38] panache of being able to stop an energy project in court. Because in order to

[17:46] stop or even have the hope of stopping a large energy project or a large project,

[17:54] Your plan has to be blessed by the Land Use Review Board and it gets an extra special

[18:02] decision that gives it standing in front of the public utility board.

[18:07] My aim is that this draft allows us to do that.

[18:11] I don't know if it's going to succeed.

[18:13] That's up to our regional commission and to the Land Use Review Board.

[18:17] If there are changes that they want us to make in order to qualify for that, extra special

[18:28] capacity, I'll review them with this select board.

[18:33] I don't know how long it will take for them to say these things.

[18:39] They're under tremendous pressure and their own staffs are stressed because they're caught

[18:46] in the middle. They're now being transformed into an enforcement agency, and it's nothing

[18:54] they've ever done before. So this is pretty rocky, pretty bumpy, and when the state legislative

[19:01] comes back into session, this will continue to be debated and reviewed. It's still a hot

[19:07] topic, land use.

[19:11] But that's sort of the state of the yard at the moment.

[19:18] If issues come

[19:20] up to this board that are connected to this plan or connected to the new system that's

[19:29] into place. Let me know how I can clarify or help. The steps here are for you to have your hearing

[19:41] and for you to take a look at the draft, see if it seems to you and and our residents to

[19:50] properly express the desires and vision of the town. And then if that's the case, you adopt it,

[19:59] But then it goes to the regional planning commission for their review and

[20:05] That's when the land board steps in they are in no mood to negotiate

[20:14] They're trying to put their

[20:16] Process into place and they're going to do it in a very strong man

[20:28] Well,

[20:33] no, I mean I

[20:36] It's a

[20:38] It's an enjoyable task. I can't say that it isn't.

[20:42] And we're happy to do this.

[20:45] But I do think its

[20:49] reality is changing.

[20:54] I hope I spoke between the lines but I hope I could be understood.

[21:00] I heard it.

[21:01] Okay.

[21:02] Anybody have any questions for them?

[21:06] I didn't think so now right now anyway.

[21:10] Okay.

[21:10] All right, so we received the plan and now our next step is to

[21:17] Right made to approve

[21:21] Planning hearing

[21:22] With a time of 5 p.m.

[21:37] I'm going to change that suggestion to 5.30 in the event it ran along the select board meeting directly after it could be adjusted.

[21:48] Yeah, 5.45.

[21:52] So we can always adjust. I'm going to go to 5.45 and adjust the select board here.

[21:56] Okay, let's do that.

[21:57] And I think we're all going to know if, you know, after this meeting,

[22:02] we're going to ask it out there, and people will have some info on it.

[22:05] Well, well, right, I think it's, yeah, a ton of people here are living here.

[22:10] Nobody was here.

[22:12] No, I don't think there will be.

[22:14] OK, this has become a real inside game now.

[22:18] Yeah, yeah.

[22:20] The problem is, people need to be involved when that's important.

[22:23] No, we get to the end of it, and you get to the end of it.

[22:25] Right.

[22:26] people's yeah okay anything else on that we good good than you need no I more

[22:33] set and thanks and no you don't need to take off yeah yeah I gotta go get our

[22:42] doubt all right we're gonna address current use needs for Westwood

[22:47] have a good night John yeah thank you very much so

[22:53] there's a mini

[22:56] Are current uses do in the Barton-Pet Zone is?

[23:00] Um, so the Barton, uh, the, uh, the land adjacent to it.

[23:07] The current use enrollment has, uh, it's actually almost completely transferred.

[23:15] The forester who had done the original plan, uh, you know, helped us with the forms,

[23:21] which the Board signed last meeting, the plan and the map have been updated showing the town as the owner, the county forester has accepted it.

[23:32] So there's just a letter from the State Department of Taxes that's coming, but it seems like that's all set within plenty of time.

[23:41] time what's come up on the Westmore acreage part of the town farm is that the county

[23:50] forester needs to inspect the property. I think they just monitor management activities

[24:01] and he will do the inspection regardless but he wanted to know if the town wanted to

[24:10] participate, ask any questions about what's required. It's possible that there

[24:14] is some activity that we might need to catch up on. And we also, we've lost

[24:23] our consulting forester, Sam Perrin, was at Northwoods, is no longer with

[24:29] Northwoods and they have a new forester. So I guess basically does the board want

[24:36] to participate in the site visit. Do you want to reach out to the Northwoods Forester?

[24:44] When do they want to do the site visit? He's currently looking for October, but there was

[24:50] no hurry on it. So, if the town wants to participate, he can schedule it around your schedule.

[24:58] The last forest that we had was from what was right in the end of it.

[25:02] They have all the paperwork still there.

[25:05] I think we need a portion of it.

[25:08] Do we have a copy of the original?

[25:12] Of the plant on file.

[25:16] I wouldn't mind taking a look at that to see.

[25:19] We can go over what maybe has been done or hasn't been done.

[25:24] It's pretty interesting that they're going to look at just

[25:27] part of the property and the one down. It's not under the same granite, this isn't two

[25:31] granite, this isn't two, we're counting this.

[25:35] The.

[25:36] Because that land is in Charleston and Westmore, right?

[25:39] Right, and the Charleston isn't in current use, because we don't pay taxes to ourselves.

[25:45] So it doesn't matter.

[25:47] Yeah.

[25:47] So let's just do that.

[25:49] Yeah, I'll do it.

[25:50] Okay, Denver.

[25:53] Makes sense.

[25:53] So whatever we're cutting or maintaining the land,

[25:56] it's only maintaining the westward portion.

[25:59] Right. Right.

[25:59] How big is that?

[26:01] 50 acres, I think?

[26:03] Wonder if westward must have bought it.

[26:05] Yeah, we keep the volume down from that.

[26:07] Yeah.

[26:08] And I don't think that there's been any,

[26:13] like, timber harvest in this current plan.

[26:17] It was 10 or 15 years ago.

[26:19] Right, I believe it was the previous

[26:23] plan and it gets renewed every 10 years but I'm also I don't know if there

[26:29] was anything that the town was committed to because that's always a

[26:33] possibility. I thought Jason had gone up there and did some harvest thing on

[26:37] years ago. Yes that was the previous so

[26:45] when the plan renewed it was Sam who did it

[26:48] and I don't think there's been any management activity but I also don't know

[26:53] that there was anything to do. So how much land is there in the whole parcel? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[26:59] 50 acres over there, but okay. I mean, I'm in favor of seeing it for us to give you the product. I mean, I don't mind going to the meeting.

[27:07] But I don't know that it would be wicked helpful if a forest could report back to us on what we need to do there.

[27:15] And, you know, yeah. Well, I can, yeah, you should have a lot there.

[27:18] I got dealings with Jared so over my out over our property so if I could look at the current use

[27:24] I could doctor Jared and see what and even reach out to Jenny. Yeah Jenny yeah that would be great because you yeah

[27:30] yeah I've got dealings with both of them so okay I will get that to you

[27:36] perfect appreciate it right there come first week in November I'm going to start cutting trees along

[27:44] both corners of the property that that's under current use and not cut okay from

[27:49] them to yeah I did it out a little bit because it's it's it's the road's not

[27:54] drying yeah so I can get some of those trees out of there oh I'll help with the drop

[27:58] yeah yep yep all right now I don't know if there's any cave right away that's the

[28:07] He wanted me to be in the front, but he'll at least like what they're proposing is the two

[28:13] eggs.

[28:16] Two of these.

[28:18] And being a ditch on that egg.

[28:20] I've got this indignation.

[28:21] It should probably be in the air.

[28:24] So we'll take it up.

[28:27] Remember that issue that I'm aware of, correct?

[28:30] I left him a copy on his desk, and I did not hear anything, but I haven't seen a lot

[28:36] of him.

[28:37] So I'm fine with that. I mean they're gonna get they're gonna get up through there and they just did that big build out and well, so

[28:47] They're looking for approval tonight. I wasn't

[28:53] yeah, I'm fine with it. Yeah, I don't have a problem. I think I'll make a portion of it

[28:59] Second

[29:01] All right, all business review

[29:08] status of gravel extraction

[29:12] We can know where we're at with this, but so he's working with it right now.

[29:19] Basically, we're just trying to kind of close that a little bit because we all know

[29:22] on the way down the road, that's trying to go back and figure out if we can get the

[29:28] rough as we move.

[29:31] You don't need any action, I don't want that on anything, correct?

[29:34] Correct.

[29:35] Yeah, the last we've heard is the attorney reaching out to the representative at UBM and

[29:41] Yep, we have not heard that

[29:52] Discuss process for grab with crossing RFP we want to pump this

[30:01] All should be quick, right? We don't have an RFP. I did. So yeah, one thing I think we need to know is we probably know for a couple of months what do we got budget for gravel, right? What do we budget last year? And then what we're at budget? I think it was around 60,000, wasn't it? I think so. We bumped it up for 50, 60,000.

[30:33] So I guess, you know, I mean, basically to put out an RFP, we need to know certain things

[30:37] at a time frame on when the RFP is completed, the volume's right, because it's going to be

[30:45] a lot of volume.

[30:46] People have been different less.

[30:48] And then the other thing I was thinking, which I don't even know how we do this if it's

[30:51] even doable, but do we try to offer a multi-year contract and try to get tricky because there's

[30:57] somebody's not in business or whatever, I don't know that we get a lot better of a price

[31:02] saying.

[31:03] We're going to crush 20,000 yards for next three years, just on in the bro.

[31:10] You know what I mean?

[31:10] Because nobody really knows where we're going to be next three years.

[31:13] So I think we probably better off just to come up with a good RFP that we can do for next

[31:17] year.

[31:19] And we can't put it out there saying, we need to prep a crush ground for $50,000 so that's

[31:29] what we're going to do.

[31:29] right so we want to come up with that yeah I'm a here as a one are we done

[31:34] crushing for this year or uh we're in here and we'll see he told me the other day and he said

[31:41] that they found some other material he wanted to try to run through it but it was going to be another

[31:44] five to ten thousand I was like yeah we put down that this year yeah so I think the guy was leaving

[31:52] but that's why I thought maybe yeah unless somebody follows maybe we can talk about this the next

[31:59] meetings that, well, what do we, what do we, what do we crush her, I guess I haven't some

[32:04] information to like what we budgeted because we're probably going to budget off from that budget

[32:09] number. I'm not saying we're going to stay with the same one, but that's typically how it goes

[32:13] right in the last year. Well, hopefully by next year, we start crushing diesel prices will be down

[32:21] hopefully. Yeah, but in doing a long time, I have to be probably not going to, but so things to think

[32:26] about is when the bids are due, when the completion of the work is due, and the volume's right,

[32:34] and I don't think we can get a close number on the cost by what volume we're thinking right,

[32:40] but we don't know the exact until the number comes back, right? Because the way things you're

[32:44] sitting right now, it looks like diesel is going to go up even more. Yeah, it usually doesn't

[32:50] or experiment, and then it will come out and we're eating while it is coming out so it's

[32:55] going to be more demand on it than the last product so it's just going to try prices up so.

[33:01] So then what we're trying to come up with, we'll come up with an RFP and have it ready to be

[33:07] out in the public we've been on some time, you know, March. Yeah, April, right,

[33:17] you know,

[33:20] So could we put it on for next month, but with some of that information possibly for the available we can start working the budget next month.

[33:30] Speedy maybe October, so they usually tell me when it's a kick me right knee and say time start hanging about it now.

[33:38] Maybe run that by tarot see if she if she's available for the next meeting we could probably look at the just a quick look at the.

[33:45] And number one.

[33:46] And number one.

[33:46] We're thinking for next year.

[33:48] And then it might give us, you know, like where we're going to be.

[33:51] Looks like I think we're going to shake up pretty good this year.

[33:53] I don't think we're going to be too far over, but we get to know.

[33:56] And then having one little hero, make sure I reach out to him so he can have a...

[34:04] He can tell us how much gravel we have.

[34:05] I'm going to wear a hat, you know.

[34:08] Because you know, we've got a ton of gravel.

[34:10] We need to eat weight here.

[34:11] Right.

[34:11] But we're going to have to probably have the best time to put it.

[34:14] never seeing a cheaper fuel time, you know, fuel is always going to drive it up, right?

[34:18] It's just like the, and I know he was working on trying to get the top cope pavement on,

[34:22] um, way to hear back from, I think, Pike, I'm not here, I'm not here, I'm here, I'm just like,

[34:27] more ash cold. And everything has gone up, you know, because everything's oil,

[34:31] we play around, you know, we do, you know, we go ahead and do it if they could hold the same price,

[34:35] I think that's where they were at. Yeah, it's something. All right, and then,

[34:40] I don't know if any of you have any thoughts on that?

[34:42] No.

[34:43] RFP.

[34:44] All right.

[34:44] Any other old business?

[34:46] No.

[34:47] I don't know.

[34:47] I don't have any approved those in orders.

[34:49] Yep.

[34:49] Any of you have any thoughts on this information?

[34:52] Yep.

[34:53] No.

[34:54] Next reading is on September 24th.

[34:57] Yeah, we're ready.

[34:59] I do a big motion to it now.

[35:02] Oh, I didn't mean.

[35:03] Yeah.

[35:04] Okay.

[35:05] Okay.

[35:06] Second.

[35:06] How do you mean work the next month?

[35:08] The next week.

[35:09] I'm on to work. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Next week, next week, next month. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it. Julie was there.

[35:15] Very good. Yep. All right. It is 649 p.m.

Charleston, VT meeting

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