[0:04] All right, it is now 7-03. I'm going to call this general meeting for August 17th, 2026 to order. Please stand for the pledge to, please pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:29] All right, thank you everyone.

[0:32] We didn't have an executive session that started at 6 p.m. to discuss matters of personnel

[0:37] and potential litigation.

[0:41] All right, Darling, please perform roll call.

[0:45] Hi, I'm Arden from sacred act Natalie Young, Jonathan Muller, St. Peter Pettel, our

[0:51] for a couple of years.

[0:59] Thank you, darling.

[1:02] All right, moving on to public comment.

[1:05] For once we have nobody.

[1:07] Seeing none.

[1:09] That's a great overweigh up, but she's not with it.

[1:12] Of the way to the end.

[1:13] So, so the report, moving on to on a nut, I'm going to

[1:15] before Mr. Vol.

[1:18] Yeah.

[1:18] So, well, again, I mean,

[1:21] You think I get people doing big going on obviously is that we got your data

[1:28] send ordinance submitted to you. He's got the planning commissions. I think I

[1:33] I'm assuming most of you read it but it's dense and it's long but I figure I

[1:37] give you kind of a 10,000 foot overview of what it's doing so

[1:46] obviously you guys

[1:50] As I run the gun, you have to get this amended with regulations by the end of October.

[1:55] So it's going to go now, you're planning commission, and then it's going to go to the county as well for the review, so we're on track with it.

[2:02] It puts your data center allowance, if one were to be attempted to be constructed in the limited industrial district zone, which we felt was the most appropriate, right?

[2:14] Largest parcels, farthest from residents is businesses, schools, playgrounds, etc.

[2:20] And the bulk standards to use the terminology that are in that district already are pretty

[2:27] big, right?

[2:28] You have a minimum of four acres that you can construct anything on.

[2:32] The setbacks from other properties is 110 feet, I think, on the rear and the side and

[2:39] then the front yard's like a hundred and thirty, if I remember correctly, yeah, off the top

[2:44] of my head.

[2:45] So, you know, this being placed on this property is also going to be significantly far from other properties within the limited industrial district itself.

[2:54] The most restrictive part of this, and this is why we wrote it in this manner, is to really discourage applications to come in as that.

[3:02] You need 10 acres of land in that district in order to build 100,000 square foot data center or larger.

[3:08] If you do want to have something less than a hundred thousand square feet as far as your building footprint goes

[3:14] Then you're going to default again to the industrial district's regulations, which again is for acres

[3:20] And then the setbacks and all the other things that go along with it

[3:23] You can't have more than 75% of that lot also covered in building or in pervious coverage as well, so

[3:31] It's very restrictive in that sense and I think I've said in a couple of meetings prior that right now the trend is bigger

[3:38] bigger, bigger data centers, right? 100,000 square feet for them is like a small data center,

[3:45] right? Because of the amount of servers and technology they have to pack in in order to put

[3:50] the output that they need to sell to the end user of the world. So you're on good ground there.

[3:57] Again, we looked at your map, we looked at properties, and quite frankly, there's not even 10 acres

[4:02] available in that district right now so yeah so yeah it's in here so the next

[4:17] point is of course that this isn't used by right this isn't used by a special

[4:21] exception the zoning gear board if they do happen to cobble together 10 acres

[4:25] of land to build their facility or something smaller with on four acres then

[4:30] it's conditional use approval only which means you as the board get to run through the application

[4:36] and ultimately give approval for them to have a data center at that property. Until your point

[4:41] Albert there are a series of engineered plans and energy use and water renewal, light,

[4:51] odors, noise, vibration reports, and other environmental electricity use. All of these reports

[4:59] that you wouldn't even have to usually provide until the land development phase.

[5:03] They're all required as part of that condition to use application too.

[5:08] So why that's so restrictive is that is forcing them to fully engineer

[5:12] a building, a plan, and prove essentially that they have the right utilities.

[5:17] They have the right water resources.

[5:20] They have everything basically done and ready to go shovel ready

[5:24] before they come to you for a conditional use application.

[5:27] It's not normally the case, right, because use, when we're talking about, is it appropriate

[5:32] use of a land?

[5:33] And then you go to the second phase, land development, where you're hiring all that

[5:38] stuff out, right?

[5:38] The stormwater, the utilities, the landscaping, the buffering, the construction of the building,

[5:44] the architectural resorts, all of that stuff.

[5:46] But we're putting that all up front.

[5:49] It's another means of discouraging someone because there is a tremendous sunk cost in preparing

[5:53] all of those reports, engineering all those plans, designing the buildings all up front.

[5:59] Especially if you see in a lot of the land use that, most larger properties by the

[6:03] industrial or big residential tracks are commercial. They are acquired with those properties

[6:08] and they're acquiring them generally under equitable grounds so they don't own

[6:12] titles of the property at that point but they put in the application and their purchase

[6:17] of that property is generally contingent upon them getting the zoning approvals that they need.

[6:22] So, you know, you can't essentially do that in this case either if you want to come in with a data center

[6:27] Because like you have to own the property because you're going to spend $100, 200,000 engineering a complete project, right?

[6:35] And you're not going to do that if you haven't even bought the property at this point, right?

[6:39] So it's not a quick turnaround either. They have to go before the planning commission

[6:43] Typically, right before they would come to us and so there could be additional conditions required

[6:53] You could. Your grounds are narrow. Like you have to stick within the corners of your ordinance that they're supplying what you requested, and there's no really pertinent public self health safety and danger aspects to it or something that's a glaringly wrong with the project. Right. Like it's going to require a new road to be constructed and they don't propose to build a new road. Then your grounds deny the use are.

[7:18] are thinner. Let's put it that way. But then again, they still have to come back for

[7:24] land development approval. Land development is a little bit different because they are

[7:29] presumed and required to 100% comply with all the regulations in the land development

[7:34] ordinance. If they don't comply with a single regulation, they can ask for a wafer from

[7:39] that provision, but you as a board are under no legal obligation to grant it. So I say

[7:43] all that because it's a lot easier to then turn down a land development if they don't have

[7:47] other docs in the rep, so to speak. But conditional use, again, we're making it financially

[7:53] very difficult for them to sink the cost in the upfront, in order to do that, and you're

[8:00] severely restricting the potential parcels that are even available in some purchase in order

[8:05] to launch this concept. To Natalie's point, too, this provision as soon as they put in an

[8:10] application, if the money would ever come in, that they're actually going to have to have

[8:14] a series of public meetings to explain the project and walk through the details even before

[8:19] it goes to the Planning Commission, which is an extra thing, right?

[8:26] If you have a bunch of residents that are upset about this and the location that they

[8:30] get to have their say immediately in the process as well, even before we start going through

[8:35] our formal process, again as another means to dissuade anybody that's coming in to say there's

[8:40] a huge public outcry for not having this thing here.

[8:44] Let's just walk away from this and find a different location.

[8:48] So some of the stuff is highly technical.

[8:50] I mean, to be honest, I'm not an engineer.

[8:52] I'm sure Mike understands some of the nuts

[8:54] and bolts more than I would on, like,

[8:55] how to dispose of wastewater properly

[8:57] and why we're only allowing closed-loop systems.

[9:00] But I will say that this was largely

[9:02] modeled on the model ordinance that

[9:05] was drafted by Chester County and Montgomery County

[9:08] in coordination with each other. They have team of engineers and land planners and experts

[9:13] on this thing for two years before they produced that report. They are looking at all

[9:18] of the regulations across the nation as well and saying, okay, here are the ways to make

[9:21] this as restrictive as possible as we know right now. So, it does represent one of the toughest

[9:27] possible ordinances that you can put out on data centers. Other than that, I mean, there's

[9:33] violations, there's continual reporting obligations and inspections that have to occur.

[9:38] They have to give you energy, use, they have to give you water, they have to give you electricity,

[9:42] use reports like on an annual basis and allow you for inspection too, and if any of those

[9:47] things are not in a line with the ordinance, you actually have some enforcement possibilities

[9:51] too.

[9:52] So it's not like once it's approved, the land development is also gained and then they've

[9:58] constructed the thing that essentially you guys don't have any teeth to stop something that

[10:01] potentially causing harm. A lot of that will go into the noise levels because they do as a matter

[10:10] of fact, this use creates a low-level hum, right? That is like lower than you would say your ordinary

[10:17] decibel measurements for like a nuisance, but nonetheless it can be extremely irritating and annoying

[10:24] and it runs constantly for neighbors and other property owners too. So again, strict decibel

[10:31] levels, it's been accounted for, but if something is a functioning right or something is going wrong,

[10:36] you guys don't have, in the normal sense, you don't have like anything after a land

[10:41] about this but approved, but in under this ordinance, you have the ability to go back and force

[10:44] them to make changes in order to correct these things as well. So, again, this is just the start of the

[10:51] process. It goes to the Planning Commission, it goes to the County for lots of comments, potentially

[10:55] edits, but we wanted to get in front of you with enough time so that if you do have questions,

[11:00] read through and we can happily answer anything as the process goes, but I don't

[11:06] really expect that it will change. For the most part I think this is it, but you

[11:10] know there could be some minor alterations along the way they're suggested.

[11:15] That's what was being.

[11:16] What do you mean benefit would they be to chase the height of our road if there is a

[11:22] within all this restrictive small one but it's the yeah so so to put back I

[11:31] guess I don't put an American football reference on it Albert right like you

[11:36] can't legally stop data centers because it's a lawful use it's not a

[11:41] facility that manufactures cocaine right or something that's illegal right a

[11:45] data center generates information electronically on servers and that's a

[11:50] thing that is a lawful use that you can do on a property provided you have

[11:54] the zoning. So the only thing that all ordinances can do is contain it as much

[12:00] as possible. So if a data center does want to come in and cobble together, you

[12:05] know, the land that's necessary and follow all the regulations to a T, we've made

[12:09] it as difficult for them as possible to get their approval, but if at the end of

[12:13] the day they comply with everything. The benefit of course is that you have a

[12:17] productive use of a property, you have some jobs created, you have some

[12:20] construction that's happening so you've got fees and all kinds of contributions

[12:24] open space funds and you have another property that's on the tax rolls, right?

[12:30] So again we can't stop them, it's illegal to prohibit them but we can make it

[12:36] prohibitive for them to attempt to and if they do go through the process then it will

[12:40] be beneficial for the town or sorry the borough in that regard too.

[12:44] So to jump in on that, the two biggest arguments that I see being made in favor of them

[12:50] by the people trying to develop them are the job creation which is debatable and the

[12:55] taxes which depends upon your boroughs tax structure.

[12:59] It's the post job creation is like none, right, because essentially one or two guys can

[13:04] come in and check on these things, but for the construction industry, for the unions obviously,

[13:10] they are very pro data center because these are massive construction projects, right?

[13:13] So you do have that ability the taxes is the biggest benefit for you

[13:17] But it's just like any other industrial use right if we're talking about somebody that wanted to come in and

[13:21] Manufacture paint or fiberglass or something like that. Is there a community benefit or what they're actually doing on the property?

[13:28] No, but the creates jobs and it puts a property on the tax rolls

[13:33] Is there anything in the ordinance that would protect us if the county or the state worked

[13:42] and act some sort of rule or legislation on this issue that would have essentially an unfunded mandate that would affect us?

[13:52] So for example, if the county or the state decide that, you know, a fire company servicing the burrow

[14:00] needed certain equipment? Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves?

[14:05] Like super seed? In this area, is that what you're saying?

[14:09] Well, I mean, unfortunately, like any of the clean streams act or anything like that.

[14:14] Like we're at the bottom of the chain as far as, you know, government goes.

[14:17] So, like we would be super seeded by any state regulation or federal regulation that's passed.

[14:22] But in your very specific example, with fire equipment, right, every insurance company pays

[14:28] into a fund at the state level each year. It's been like a tax on insurance

[14:33] companies, right? And those monies go to the state buyer fund, and that money

[14:37] then is distributed for equipment and the things that they need. So if that

[14:42] would ever occur, right? And there's some kind of new pack or something that they

[14:46] need to have like on themselves in the case of a fire, right? Like they would have

[14:51] the monies pulled from the state in order to purchase that equipment. Just like

[14:55] body, one of the cameras with police officers, right?

[14:57] It's the same thing.

[14:58] It was a fun down there.

[14:59] And it's like, you're a real...

[15:00] Spout again, afford them on their own, like you just applied to the state and the state gives you the money through those funds, so. But we can't do anything preemptively in here to say, like, you're going to, you know, pay us X amount of money, you know, to cover any kind of these contingencies. Because again, it's zoning, it's a lawful use, and they're just saying like, you know, we have to allow it somewhere, and that's tough up with this concept, right? If it's a legal use, you can't prevent it anywhere in your burrow.

[15:29] So, you know, they're going to say, like, we have a lawful right to construct this.

[15:33] Like, we'll play by your rules, but, you know, you can't then, like, retroactively after we've built,

[15:39] essentially, like, change the rules of the game, so to speak, if that makes sense.

[15:45] But, again, up front when you're asking for conditions of approval, if that were to come, you could ask for a contribution, right?

[15:52] they can agree to it. So if you concern that it asks you need firefighting equipment or

[15:58] EMS services or something like that, you could say like we also need you know a contribution

[16:02] of $300,000 or a $30,000 your contribution to the fire company or the ambulance

[16:08] or in order to cover any kind of contingencies and costs that they have. So they don't have to

[16:15] agree to it, but they can always of course if they want their approval they can agree to it

[16:22] and they

[16:25] I know it's dense, and I know it's pretty warm, right?

[16:29] But like again, we wanted to get in front of you,

[16:31] but if we have any other specific questions,

[16:33] I guess the other other thing to hit on

[16:35] that I didn't mention, right, is that if this thing,

[16:38] if one of these things ever gets constructed,

[16:40] and then for some reason it gets decommissioned

[16:42] and they stop using it for,

[16:44] there are permissions in there essentially says

[16:46] you're remediating everything back to as it was

[16:49] before the property contained a data center.

[16:52] And during that process, you actually have to pay

[16:54] a escrow fund or a bond to the to the borough to secure all of the reviews and inspections

[17:02] that would go into that as well. So I say that because it's not like a data center

[17:07] comes in and then five years from now, which I'm assuming which will happen, you know,

[17:11] they're very large right now because of what they need as far as like servers go, but as

[17:16] everyone knows technology always gets smaller and more efficient. So, you know, they might

[17:20] say like, we only need 20,000 square feet to accomplish what we used to in a hundred

[17:23] So if they abandoned something like this, it won't just run to the ground and you know cause potential environmental contamination or anything like that.

[17:32] That was the piece I was going to ask that they required to like bring it back up to usability or whatever.

[17:38] I mean they'll got it, right?

[17:39] Like they'll still be a building constructed and landscaping and storm water, but anything...

[17:44] But like if they pump stuff into the ground or whatever, like they're required to...

[17:47] Okay, right and everything gets disconnected from the utilities and all and the waste water and all that stuff gets

[17:53] Remediated as well and they have to post a bond until it's proven that we've met all the standards that are necessary too, so

[18:00] That's a quirk. I mean, that's not something that's would narrowly required in any commercial and industrial use, but

[18:11] That's that

[18:11] Like I said, that's the bulk of what we're working on this week for you guys. So thank you. Thanks out

[18:20] All right, moving on to the engineers report.

[18:28] Mr. Kissinger, do you have any other projects?

[18:31] Yeah, so I think five A's going to be covered under all business, so we'll skip over that one.

[18:36] And then the open project report, I think the only thing we've really got done is the JB Squared project.

[18:42] They have requested another extension by remember correctly, right?

[18:47] So they're not coming to the planning commission this week.

[18:49] They can't make it in August, but they want to make it

[18:55] once a time in the film.

[18:57] Yeah, Mr. Hoopman, son is getting married at that time.

[19:02] Not Junior?

[19:03] Yes.

[19:04] He used to work at the community.

[19:05] That's all the recording.

[19:07] He had another reason why I can't get all of it.

[19:13] But they got to still hold the planning commission meeting.

[19:16] Do you know?

[19:16] Yes, so they're still going to have the fighting, which you made, and they're still going to review everything in that way.

[19:22] They can organize the either moves prior to the next one and so on.

[19:27] Okay, perfect.

[19:28] Okay, so that's really the only thing that we're tracing on, tracking on that on the end of the game.

[19:34] All right, thanks Mike.

[19:37] Just a quick follow up.

[19:39] Darling, like their extension was already good until October, right?

[19:42] So did they give a second another extension that goes beyond that?

[19:49] Yeah, the timing of it is going to have to extend it again.

[19:55] All right, moving on to old business.

[19:58] We had an email poll go out on Friday, about one smith rich sewer.

[20:05] So I'm looking to ratify that motion.

[20:08] He was before Friday.

[20:10] Yeah, it was earlier.

[20:11] So I'll make a motion to ratify.

[20:16] the vote for the Smithford sewer project, which essentially forfeited agreed to

[20:24] forfeit the ARPA grant funds, which were previously awarded.

[20:33] Motion is in main seconded. Here he is. All right, you've already all voted.

[20:40] So the motion. No, no, we get a vote to ratify. So you need a vote. All in favor?

[20:45] Aye. Any opposed?

[20:49] Motion is ratified.

[20:50] All

[20:53] right, next on the agenda under old business is a motion to authorize solicitor to finalize legal documentation,

[21:00] notifying all parties involved in forfeiting the Arbor grant funds.

[21:04] I'll make that motion as stated.

[21:07] To have a second.

[21:08] Motion is made and seconded, hearing any discussion?

[21:14] Hearing none, all in favor?

[21:15] Aye.

[21:17] Any opposed?

[21:19] Motion passes.

[21:22] All right.

[21:22] All right, next item number C under Old Business is a motion to make an offer for the borough manager position pending a background check.

[21:31] So I'll make a motion to make an offer for the borough manager position to Jeff Smith pending a background check and a 90 day probation period.

[21:43] Do I have a second?

[21:49] Motion has been made and seconded, hearing any discussion,

[21:57] no discussion, all in favor?

[21:59] Hi. Hi. Any opposed?

[22:05] Motion passes.

[22:08] All right, thank you.

[22:11] Sterling, I'll catch up with you afterwards. We'll talk about a couple things.

[22:17] Moving on to new business. First item seven, A, the Historical Commission. I just

[22:22] wanted to announce to everybody that I did meet up at the Delaware County Planning Department.

[22:27] Again, they were big help in our subcommittee when we were drafting the ordinance.

[22:33] I met up with and had breakfast with one of them over the weekend.

[22:39] And we really are looking for an updated scope of work.

[22:44] So I'll be presenting an updated scope of work regarding the Historical Commission.

[22:49] So there are a couple things that are to be considered in the next budget meeting.

[22:52] I just wanted to make everyone aware that I am in contact with the plan department about this.

[22:57] We actually approved a motion, I think in like 2024

[23:01] To spend some money on this already, but what would we do a new motion once we have a new updated scope of work now that we've passed an

[23:08] historical preservation ordinance

[23:10] When that old scope of work was adopted, we had not yet passed the ordinance, but now that we have we have other things we can do so

[23:18] Just wanted to make that announcement

[23:20] And moving on to 7B, mayors updates, Mayor Rock, I'm right.

[23:31] Everybody want to go to the National Senior Citizen today on the 21st.

[23:36] And to all those at Celebrate and Delaware County will be on the 20th.

[23:40] Closing the round, I might be the only person celebrating.

[23:43] And I'll represent the Bureau at Redwood Senior Center.

[23:47] There's a couple other people.

[23:49] But my big thing, I really want to talk about some security issues that are pre-earned

[23:55] here and dear to everybody.

[23:57] First, the scan event is going to be on the first.

[24:00] It's going to be here.

[24:01] We're three quarters of a way to go.

[24:05] But I'm really concerned with all these scan things.

[24:08] I can't read the daily times without seeing somebody confess or do this or that or scan.

[24:15] We had a call, or you had an email, even an info, with somebody in one of the Belgian

[24:21] valley book, going around for roofing, or the words or something like that, and they

[24:26] were concerned.

[24:26] And they said, basically, that's the condom, and there's a notice around.

[24:31] But this is the same thing they like to see all the time.

[24:33] Somebody's taken advantage of, were about tied in, or pod deposit, where a room never comes

[24:40] back.

[24:40] So safety is all that thing, safety's not just a tree falling, not just a traffic light,

[24:47] but it's safety, and it's just a really big concern.

[24:51] Leading into the park trash that we had, I kind of became a little bit of a, I'm not

[24:58] about this trash, but I usually put something out and then even about, once a year, saying,

[25:04] don't forget, hey, if you're using the park, don't pack up your stuff and everything and take it with you.

[25:09] So two weeks ago, there was a goby on a Sunday, and there's a big trash gallon with jumbo size all nicely needed and tied up, so somebody cleaned up impeccably.

[25:23] But two days later, and it was party stuff, I've all imagined.

[25:28] Two days later, there was another party, Jasmine, Aladdin, and all kinds of stuff, all things all over the place.

[25:34] It's all like, oh, this is crazy.

[25:36] So it did get picked up on the following Friday.

[25:41] But we have to realize, one way to realize it,

[25:43] we don't have trash picked up on Monday morning.

[25:47] We pay for the trash.

[25:48] And when people call up and say, OK, we use your car.

[25:53] You know, I guess you're just playing up there for yourself.

[25:56] So I want, we're going to do something probably

[25:59] with the part committee to maybe make better signage

[26:03] to make people aware, because it's not everybody reads what I'm putting in the English.

[26:07] Maybe put some things in and down there temporarily, but it happened again after the trash

[26:13] was picked up on Friday, the very next day I was down, so Friday night there was another

[26:18] party and it was even more stuff and it wasn't as neat and everything, and I'm concerned

[26:23] because in our place too, we have other things, when the trash at a hundred degrees is lay

[26:31] open and broken apart, and there's diapers or this and that, and then it's all over.

[26:35] There's kids playing. So it is like another safety and health concern. So I just want to put

[26:41] that on the record. That's my little mission here in the future that everybody knows that we really do

[26:47] care. Everybody up here. Can I jump in on that? Because I'm having little kids. I've bought a permit

[26:54] to have like a gazebo rented to have parties. And maybe we don't have a gazebo or anything like that

[27:00] But if we're having people ask for permission to use the park for parties, maybe we should do some sort of nominal fee associated with having to potentially send somebody out there to clean this stuff up and having trash picked up because this has been an ongoing thing now and if people are going to have full on like Aladdin parties out there like and we're going to have to have unfortunately Eugene go down and clean everything up which is what it's been.

[27:26] It's like, there's like 10-teens of bucks if that's more than just like something.

[27:30] Our little trash bins don't really hold that much, we're not geared for that, but it's

[27:36] like we'll be an extra $100 to send a special thing to get the trash contractor to go

[27:42] down.

[27:43] So that's just more taxes for a hundred a week if we get an extra day, and I don't think

[27:49] we're fit for that.

[27:50] Would you mind connecting with Jeff, he's the park's right, to talk about, okay, to talk

[27:55] about maybe getting something like that in, like sort of way to control who's using it.

[28:01] So that's just making sure that everybody knows about it.

[28:04] I'm not saying because we saw the trash bags and my wife is like,

[28:11] we're just picking up the trash and I'm on council, I don't know.

[28:18] You're not saying you got a trash bag?

[28:29] But that's assuming it's in a bag, yeah.

[28:35] So, the point is really, as far from having an on-board feed, please care for service effects

[28:40] in things like that.

[28:41] But what you said is, I don't know about Friday, and the party happens over the weekend and those days I haven't been able to.

[28:49] Well, we have a party on Tuesday night too.

[28:52] So it's an issue, and we have to discuss it.

[28:55] But I want to make everybody aware of it.

[28:57] I'm just going to say, could you make it like a take-in take-out?

[29:02] You know, bring it up, bring it home with you.

[29:05] That's where I started on the e-news, I said, hey, love it.

[29:09] And if you saw, I include the picture of the raccoon with the party hat and everything.

[29:14] So there's a whole thing you want to say and we love you to have a party.

[29:17] But I think that there needs to be a registration or maybe I don't know if we can associate a fee

[29:25] because if Jean is to go down or somebody is to go down and actually pick the stuff up and put it where

[29:29] of a debtor's going to get it, like it should be like that's, you know, maybe it's $25

[29:34] and a registration so we know who's one who's using the park. No, but like if they leave

[29:39] it trashed all over the place, we need to know who to contact and we need the efforts to

[29:45] like. A lot of my other missed values will provide you even if you're running about the million

[29:50] or you're just having permission to use some of the public park space, like they will

[29:54] There will be one page sheet and it will give you the rules and regulations of the park space.

[29:59] and then the...

[30:00] Ask for a deposit, you know, 50 bucks or whatever. And it's like, if you clean up after yourself, break anything, then you get all your money. Yeah, because we need to know who's doing it so that we can hold them accountable.

[30:11] And sometimes maybe it won't be anything to tell us, but I just wanted to give that, so I just say you can start recycling today, that's another, as far as fire, permission to be all over that, like, we want to be slaughter, we don't want to have orders and stuff like that, so recycle days in 19 September, there's a lot of buzz going around about what's going on, you know, discussing what we're hearing.

[30:41] So, I just want to pass that on.

[30:43] One mayors report and anybody have any questions?

[30:49] No, thank you, Jean.

[30:49] Thank you for being the Public Works Department.

[30:53] So, Public Works number, cleaning up the trash.

[30:57] Call me sometime, drag me with you.

[31:01] I'll go with you.

[31:03] All right.

[31:04] Thank you, Mayor Montgomery.

[31:05] Moving on.

[31:07] So here, I'm looking for a motion to approve two sign installations with concrete at $175 each for Burntown, USA.

[31:20] One at Community Park and one at DeSalvo Park, not to exceed $350.

[31:27] dollars. And is the Scotts Landscaping port of this? Is this a day the one's doing it?

[31:33] Okay. With the Scotts Landscaping. So am I correct that this falls under the threshold that we would

[31:40] need a motion for to authorize to begin with? All right, so I'm just going to say my little piece,

[31:44] which is there's a lot of different things that keep falling under that and this is a small nominal

[31:50] amount. So it's not a big deal, but it would be better in my mind to build these things into

[31:58] Each particular committee's agenda are like ask for the budget for next year because we've had an awful lot of things that have, you know, maybe small amounts here and there that continue to exceed the budget.

[32:12] And so I'm just pointing that out and I will probably die on this.

[32:17] But anyway, that was my little part of it.

[32:21] All right. So do I have a motion?

[32:31] Have a motion? Do I have a second?

[32:34] All right. Motion has been made in a second. Hearing any other discussion?

[32:38] I will bring this to discussion. There was an idea that we were having the sign, the verb sign, or another sign. Like I've seen another municipality, but it's a stop sign and then it's this.

[32:50] But I think where we want to put it, it might be too close to a road to do something.

[32:56] I love the fact we're bird town, but I think as people are turning on to Valley Brook

[33:01] from Route 1, they should really be paying attention to that, the signs that pertain to safety.

[33:07] So I think those are decent spots.

[33:12] All in favor?

[33:14] Aye.

[33:15] Any opposed?

[33:17] All right.

[33:17] Good.

[33:20] Darling, you can coordinate with Scott. Thank you. All righty, moving on to public

[33:26] comment. Anyone on the first row? Second row. Is there anyone on the first row? Third row.

[33:37] I'm just here because I didn't want our lane to waste putting out the chairs for you.

[33:42] Thank you for your service.

[33:47] All right. All right. Do I have a motion to adjourn?

[33:51] still moved. All in favor? I need to post.

[33:57] Yay.

[33:59] Not bad. Nice. Thank you for coming.

[34:02] Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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