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[3:19] >> Councilmember Harris: all
[3:21] right, we'll begin. Welcome to
[3:23] budget and finance, I'm your
[3:24] committee chair reggie harris.
[3:25] Joined today with with the
[3:27] commit vice chair, councilmember
[3:28] cramerding, we have
[3:30] councilmember anna albi and
[3:31] councilmember jeffreys,
[3:32] councilmember owens,
[3:35] councilmember johnson,
[3:37] councilmember walsh. I believe
[3:39] the vice mayor will be in
[3:41] shortly, so is PRESIDENT Pro tem
[3:43] parks. We have from the
[3:44] administration DR. Dudas from
[3:46] budget, monica morton from
[3:48] finances, and DR. Brandenburg
[3:50] from law. Robert neely is our
[3:53] clerk. We have one public
[3:58] comment stephan pryor the floor
[4:08] is yours.
[4:10] >> don't look at me like that's
[4:11] correct man. Good afternoon,
[4:13] good afternoon. As a matter of
[4:15] fact off will looks what's up
[4:16] DR. Andrew over there, I see you
[4:22] over there too. Off that look,
[4:22] $197,000 for the red bikes just
[4:23] to get fixed?
[4:25] You need to get some brand new
[4:29] bikes. Those bikes are so old.
[4:31] You got news ones coming in, I
[4:32] hope so. Those bikes are so old
[4:35] I don't want to get on it. I
[4:38] talked to the couple council
[4:40] members meeka owens, and scotty
[4:42] johnson, and I talked about that
[4:43] aggregation program. I keep
[4:46] talking about it, DR. Andrew,
[4:48] and they keep sending letters in
[4:50] the mail to my family members
[4:52] and saying we're going to
[4:54] automatically opt you back in if
[4:55] you don't respond to this
[4:57] letter. It feels like a threat.
[4:59] it feels like the energy company
[5:00] is threatening people and they
[5:02] need to stop them letters. If
[5:03] you opt out one time, you
[5:05] shouldn't have to keep operating
[5:07] back in and they automatically
[5:09] operating you back in and that's
[5:11] kind of wrong, that's real
[5:13] wrong, that's extortion it feels
[5:14] likes extortion and they
[5:15] threatening you. So we have to
[5:17] figure that out. I'm here today
[5:19] to talk about this five million
[5:21] dollars, DR. Andrew, we need to
[5:23] find out where it is going and
[5:26] what project it is going to
[5:28] toward. So people can be
[5:29] accounted for and transparent
[5:31] about money that's move around
[5:33] in the pot. You are the
[5:35] DR. Doctor you got to will he
[5:36] people know sometimes. Please
[5:40] maine know what's going on,
[5:42] DR. Andrew. And seth walsh,
[5:44] quit playing that video game on
[5:46] that phone and pay attention
[5:47] when I'm talking it is important
[5:50] today. I see you too cramerding
[5:51] you are looking on the glasses
[5:53] on your knows, put them on your
[5:54] face so they won't fall off.
[5:56] Make sure you do that you need
[5:58] to be more paying attentions
[6:00] what's going on, I feel good
[6:02] today. I'm in my good mood
[6:04] today. DR. Andrew, and the
[6:06] crew, I don't want to leave you
[6:07] out city solicitor's, police in
[6:08] the back. I love you guys, I
[6:11] can't do nothing about it. All
[6:12] right.
[6:14] >> Councilmember Harris: thank
[6:16] you. All right. DR. Dudas,
[6:19] let's jump into our agenda.
[6:21] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[6:23] number 1 is a grant ordinance.
[6:26] This is from councilmember
[6:28] jeffreys. It would authorizes a
[6:35] grant of $3,765 from the william9
[6:36] william.
[6:37] >> Councilmember Albi: pom row
[6:38] foundation. These are to
[6:42] partially offset a orcal marker
[6:44] for cincinnati historic dunbar
[6:46] community previously known as
[6:49] corsica hollow a
[6:50] african-american community on
[6:51] the western edge of
[6:51] madisonville.
[6:53] These funds would come through
[6:55] ohio history connection. There
[6:59] is a additional $380 required
[7:01] for the historical marker, which
[7:04] there are existing funds in the
[7:07] city manager's office budget to
[7:08] cover.
[7:08] >> Councilmember Harris:
[7:09] councilmember jeffreys?
[7:10] >> Councilmember Jeffreys:
[7:12] awesome, thank you. This is
[7:14] about a year plus in the
[7:16] makerring, so for those of you
[7:19] who are not familiar dunbar is a
[7:21] neighborhood that used to be in
[7:22] madisonville.
[7:24] It was dissected
[7:27] by red bank expressway anchor
[7:29] circa the main street is still
[7:31] there, but it has been
[7:32] completely redeveloped. And so
[7:34] the back story on this is the
[7:36] community as I say over a year
[7:37] and a half, two years ago
[7:39] reached out and said, hey, they
[7:41] want some acknowledgment of the
[7:44] history. And so over the course
[7:45] of several months we
[7:47] collaborated with them, went out
[7:49] to talk about the sign and the
[7:50] words on the sign as well as
[7:52] where the right location is,
[7:54] including going on-site. And we
[7:55] have identified that location
[7:59] right on corsica and bank
[8:01] express way. And we have
[8:03] aligned the sign wording with
[8:05] the community way with folks in
[8:07] the community and so this is
[8:08] really meaningful for people in
[8:10] the community. There used to be
[8:11] what they called dunbar days
[8:12] where the community got
[8:14] together. They want to use this
[8:17] as an anchor for bringing those
[8:19] back. And so what we're
[8:21] authorizing here today is it is
[8:22] national foundation that helps
[8:24] support some of these historic
[8:26] markers. They are paying over
[8:28] 90% of it and then as DR. Dudas
[8:30] said there is about $300 that
[8:33] the city will pay, so city
[8:34] manager thank her for her
[8:36] support on that. So, once we
[8:38] approve this, then they will
[8:41] actually make the marker and
[8:43] then we'll do a unveiling and
[8:45] invite everyone to the
[8:46] unveiling, the community will do
[8:48] an unveiling of the marker. I
[8:50] have thed withing here of the
[8:53] two sides of the marker if folks
[8:55] are interested. But it is a
[8:56] huge support from the community
[8:59] for this. And thank you.
[9:00] >> Councilmember Harris:
[9:02] absolutely, it's wonderful.
[9:05] Absolutely. Great, without --
[9:07] >> Councilmember Albi: I wanted
[9:08] to thank councilmember jeffreys
[9:09] for leading this over the past
[9:10] year and a half, two years. As
[9:12] you mentioned he did come to the
[9:13] community council I watts there
[9:15] that night and this means a lot
[9:17] of we had members of our
[9:19] community who grew up in den bar
[9:21] when you presented the community
[9:22] council I want to highlight how
[9:24] much this means to the folks who
[9:26] grew up in that community and
[9:29] sadly saw it torn down to make
[9:31] way for red bank. So, thank you
[9:34] for all your hard work on this.
[9:34] >> Councilmember Jeffreys: to
[9:36] add on that, I would say that
[9:38] evening was probably one of the
[9:39] most meaningful and powerful
[9:41] that I have had on council. I
[9:43] mean I had a roomful of people,
[9:45] maybe a hundred plus, very
[9:47] diverse old, young, black,
[9:49] white, it was very cathartic for
[9:51] the community. You had members
[9:53] of the community who talked
[9:55] being displaced and folks
[9:56] sitting next to them who in the
[10:00] end sad I had no idea, I thought
[10:02] it was incredibly powerful this
[10:04] just going through this exercise
[10:08] with the community.
[10:09] >> Councilmember Harris: for me,
[10:12] one of the most powerful
[10:14] madisonville experiences was
[10:15] with you, PRESIDENT Pro tem
[10:19] parks, we were out and you
[10:21] walked me through we were just
[10:23] like going around the
[10:24] neighborhood you were like let
[10:26] me tell you about this street
[10:28] corner, this family, and
[10:31] connecting it to present things
[10:32] that happen on the council. One
[10:34] thing I never forget, you sort
[10:37] of connect it had to how
[10:40] neighbors migrate between in
[10:41] neighborhoods. And so I just
[10:43] think, yeah, I appreciate you
[10:45] doing that and just like the
[10:47] deep history, mean there are a
[10:48] lot of communities that have a
[10:50] lot of deep history I got the
[10:51] insight through being able to
[10:54] like learn about it from your
[10:56] family. PRESIDENT Pro tem
[10:58] parks?
[10:59] >> Councilmember Parks: good.
[11:03] I'm happy about that. My aunts
[11:05] lived in madisonville, my
[11:07] mother's sisters, one in
[11:09] silverton one in madisonville.
[11:11] And so as a kid, you know, we
[11:13] went to birthday parties and
[11:15] sleep overs. My cousins were
[11:19] there. They are like sister
[11:23] cousins. And so I know about
[11:25] dunbar neighborhood and the
[11:28] cemetery and just all of the
[11:30] history, the richness of
[11:35] madisonville. So, this -- what?
[11:36] >> [Indiscernible].
[11:37] >> Councilmember Parks: the
[11:39] creamy whip, other the creamy
[11:42] whip in madisonville, that's
[11:48] right. So thank you. Thank you
[11:49] councilmember, this is
[11:52] wonderful. Thank you. I
[11:53] appreciate your time and
[11:56] attention to it.
[11:57] >> Councilmember Harris: agreed.
[11:58] All right, without objection
[12:00] we'll move item number 1 for
[12:01] passage.
[12:02] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[12:04] number 2 is a grant ordinance
[12:06] for the cincinnati health
[12:07] department, this would be a
[12:14] grant of up to $349,000 from
[12:16] ohio department of health,
[12:19] community and faith based infant
[12:21] and maternal health support
[12:23] services program grant. The
[12:27] goal here is to focus on
[12:28] improving maternal health and
[12:30] birth outcomes through the
[12:33] increase of prenatal and post
[12:35] pardon doctors visits and
[12:38] supporting nutrition of mothers.
[12:39] >> Councilmember Harris: yeah,
[12:40] I'm glad to see this grant. I
[12:42] know in our city and region the
[12:46] past decade or so we have been
[12:50] really making huge strides and
[12:52] investments in maternal health
[12:54] and over come some of toes
[12:57] disparities. Kudos to the
[12:58] health department.
[12:59] >> Councilmember Albi: I want to
[13:00] highlight we're in the middle of
[13:02] nation at black maternal health
[13:05] week, it is APRIL 11-17. This
[13:06] is important week to recognize
[13:09] there are some very stark
[13:12] statistics and facts about how
[13:14] maternal health so pull a couple
[13:15] data from 36 states finds that
[13:17] more than 80% of pregnancy
[13:19] related deaths were preventable.
[13:21] And black women are
[13:22] approximately 3 times more
[13:24] likely to die from a pregnancy
[13:26] related cause than white women.
[13:28] So I am really glad to see this
[13:29] grant come through. It is such
[13:32] an important thing and it is
[13:34] important to the making sure
[13:37] that our city continues to grow,
[13:41] thrive, and people are healthy,
[13:42] especially expect and mothers,
[13:43] I'm excited to have this before
[13:44] us.
[13:44] >> Councilmember Harris: all
[13:45] right, without objection we'll
[13:51] move item number 2 for passage.
[13:53] >> DR. Dudas: item 3 is a grant
[13:55] nor the police department. This
[13:59] is the drive to succeed 2024
[14:00] grant. The administration would
[14:03] ask that this item be held for
[14:06] one week. Police was just
[14:08] notified of a slight increase in
[14:12] the grant award amount and given
[14:14] that, we would like to hold this
[14:16] for a week and come back with a
[14:19] b version with the increased
[14:23] grant amount.
[14:24] >> Councilmember Harris: without
[14:26] objection we'll hold item number 3.
[14:29] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[14:29] number 3 is a grant ordinance
[14:31] for the cincinnati recreation
[14:36] commission. This is a grant up
[14:41] to $191,000 from the hamilton
[14:43] county digital divide public
[14:44] wi-fi grant program. These
[14:47] funds would enable crc to
[14:49] install public wi-fi
[14:52] infrastructure at various crc
[14:54] park locations.
[14:57] >> Councilmember Harris:
[14:59] fantastic.
[15:00] >> Councilmember Jeffreys: do we
[15:02] know the locations, DR. Dudas,
[15:04] where these are going?
[15:05] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, to
[15:07] the councilmember, I have not
[15:09] seen the final list of
[15:11] locations, but we can coordinate
[15:14] with crc to identify where those
[15:15] are.
[15:16] >> Councilmember Jeffreys: I ask
[15:18] the in part I was out at winton
[15:22] hill recently and this is a big
[15:22] issue not just at the crc but in
[15:24] the community is wi-fi access,
[15:27] that was the genesis of my
[15:27] question.
[15:30] >> Councilmember Harris:
[15:31] absolutely. All right. Without
[15:36] objection we'll move item number 4 for passage.
[15:37] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair item
[15:40] number 5 is a donation for the
[15:41] cincinnati police department.
[15:45] This is an in-kind donation of a
[15:46] therapy dog related equipment
[15:49] and supplies and training
[15:53] services. This value is $8,000.
[15:57] The dog is coming from the k-9s
[16:00] for warriors group. And the
[16:03] therapy dog will be utilized by
[16:06] the police department's peer
[16:11] support team.
[16:12] >> Councilmember Harris: without
[16:14] objection we'll move item number 5 for passage.
[16:16] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[16:19] number 6 is a donation ordinance
[16:20] for the department of
[16:22] transportation and engineering.
[16:25] This is a scholarship that is
[16:28] being donated valued at $3,300.
[16:34] This is from the north carolina
[16:38] toto, nacto, the will send one
[16:43] dote employee to the nacto
[16:45] designing cities 2024 conference
[16:48] next month in miami, florida.
[16:50] >> Councilmember Harris: I mean
[16:51] they could have picked a better
[16:52] location.
[16:54] >> they should have picked miami
[16:57] in JANUARY, that would have been
[16:59] nice. The only comment is
[17:01] similar to the training that
[17:01] councilmember cramerding talks
[17:03] about. I think this is great
[17:06] the continuing to make sure our
[17:07] employees are trained on the
[17:09] latest and greatest, thank them
[17:10] for this.
[17:12] >> that's right. All right.
[17:13] Without objection we'll move
[17:17] item number 6 for passage.
[17:19] >> DR. Dudas: item number 7 is a
[17:22] mid year adjustment ordinance
[17:27] for the dced, there are two
[17:29] items included here in this
[17:31] ordinance. The first is the
[17:35] transfer of $5 million from the
[17:37] general fund balance sheet
[17:37] reserve a down affordable
[17:39] housing. This is the five
[17:41] million dollars that was set
[17:46] aside as part of the fiscal year
[17:47] 2023 close out process. The
[17:49] department is now transferring
[17:52] and we are appropriating those
[17:54] funds department of community
[17:56] and economic development non
[17:58] person operating budget which
[18:01] will facilitate providing those
[18:03] resources to the cincinnati
[18:04] development fund for affordable
[18:06] housing projects. The second
[18:10] part of the ordinance is
[18:12] transferring $280,000 from a
[18:15] balance sheet reserve account
[18:17] hampton in reserve account for
[18:18] capital projects. This is
[18:21] funding that easies in parking
[18:23] system facilities fund 102. It
[18:26] is being transferred and
[18:28] appropriated to the operating
[18:30] budget for parking, division of
[18:33] parking facilities. Those funds
[18:37] will be utilized for satisfying
[18:40] the terms of a garage finances
[18:43] agreement which is with 3,000
[18:46] vine llc. In both cases
[18:47] existing funds are being
[18:50] utilized and transferred in this
[18:51] ordinance.
[18:52] >> Councilmember Harris: thank
[18:57] you, DR. Dudas. I also wanted
[18:59] to say we often have these mid
[19:02] year adjustment orders or second
[19:06] orders odds because allocation
[19:08] of dollars at the budget, at the
[19:10] conclusion of the budget process
[19:11] doesn't then get those dollars
[19:14] to projects. And so, for people
[19:17] who track it closely you will
[19:19] likely see allocations come
[19:21] before us multiple times based
[19:23] on the expenditures these
[19:25] dollars are not new. Second
[19:26] thing I want to highlight I want
[19:29] to bring back the $5 million
[19:33] that we're transferring to cdf,
[19:34] those dollars are in our motion
[19:40] that we passed I think MARCH 23
[19:43] or 22, 23, it is fine. When we
[19:46] passed it, we essentially said
[19:48] that those dollars had to be
[19:49] highly learned and those dollars
[19:53] had to go to projects affordable
[19:54] to 80% ami or lower. And so
[19:57] want toking just highlight that
[19:59] those city dollars that we set
[20:02] aside have a specific earmark in
[20:07] use in cdf. All right. Without
[20:10] objection we'll move item number 7 for passage.
[20:12] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[20:16] number 8 is a ordinance, this is
[20:18] related to the urban forestry
[20:19] assessment. This ordinance from
[20:24] parks will establish the 2025
[20:25] urban forestry program
[20:27] assessment equalization board.
[20:29] This is a requirement under the
[20:32] ohio revised code when there are
[20:35] objections to the urban forestry
[20:37] assessment there are current
[20:38] objections, so this ordinance
[20:41] would appoint three
[20:43] disinterested free holders,
[20:44] hamilton county residents but
[20:48] not city residents to the
[20:49] scalings board and they
[20:50] equalization
[20:52] board and they will meet on
[20:54] APRIL 30 at 12:30 P.M. To hear
[20:58] the objections to the
[21:00] assessment.
[21:00] >> Councilmember Harris: great.
[21:02] Without objection we'll move
[21:04] item number 8 for passage.
[21:06] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[21:08] number 9 is a ordinance that
[21:09] would authorizes the city
[21:11] manager to take all necessary
[21:14] and proper actions to cooperate
[21:20] with the director of the owe dot
[21:24] this is related to odot's
[21:25] planned replacement of
[21:27] pedestrian bridges with a shared
[21:31] use path bridge over interstate
[21:34] 71, interstate 471 and route 22
[21:37] from van meter street in mt.
[21:40] Adams to east court street.
[21:43] This work is being done by odot
[21:45] but the agreement is necessary
[21:47] for the city to make right of
[21:49] way and city property available
[21:54] for odot to use as part of the
[21:56] project.
[21:57] >> Councilmember Jeffreys: this
[21:58] is a great project. There is a
[22:00] bridge there now as people know
[22:02] it is narrow and a little run
[22:04] down. If you look at the new
[22:05] designs that odot which they did
[22:07] a fair amount of engagement and
[22:11] surveys of folks, a lot wider
[22:13] bridge for both pedestrians and
[22:15] cyclists and easier to get up.
[22:18] It connects downtown and mt.
[22:20] Adams in the a lot better more
[22:23] efficient way.
[22:24] >> Councilmember Harris: agreed
[22:27] greed. Without objection we'll
[22:28] put item number 9 on for
[22:28] passage.
[22:31] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[22:33] number 10 is a motion submitted
[22:33] by --
[22:34] >> Vice Mayor Kearney: excuse
[22:36] me, I'm sorry, excuse me for
[22:38] interrupting I was going to say
[22:39] this is our motion and we're
[22:42] indefinite postponing it.
[22:43] >> Councilmember Harris: great.
[22:44] >> Vice Mayor Kearney: sorry to
[22:45] interrupt.
[22:46] >> Councilmember Harris: item 10
[22:49] we'll indefinite postpone.
[22:51] We'll move to item number 11.
[22:52] >> DR. Dudas: to the chair, item
[22:54] number 11 this is at budget
[22:57] policy motion. This is from
[22:59] councilmember harris, anna albi,
[23:01] walsh, parks, cramerding,
[23:03] jeffreys, johnson and the vice
[23:06] mayor. It provides council's
[23:07] budget policy direction to the
[23:09] city administration for the
[23:14] fiscal year 2025 budget update.
[23:14] >> Councilmember Harris: great,
[23:16] thank you. First I want to
[23:18] extend a hard I thank you to all
[23:21] my colleagues for your work on
[23:22] this.
[23:24] Some folks have asked why are we
[23:26] doing this this way and we're
[23:27] being more broad at the
[23:29] beginning. One of the things
[23:30] that the administration had a
[23:30] conversation with our office
[23:33] about that, I actually really
[23:35] precious that in the budget
[23:36] process having a broader sense
[23:38] of what our values are and our
[23:40] goals can also help with sort of
[23:42] the allocation of existing
[23:43] revenue, so it is not always
[23:46] about what is the new spend but
[23:48] like that we might be spending
[23:49] dollars in areas that are a
[23:51] priority for us so they have a
[23:53] larger understanding of what's
[23:54] important. When the city
[23:55] manager comes back she can
[23:57] address some of these things and
[23:59] n a more comprehensive way I
[24:00] thought that made sense. We
[24:01] will get back to the process
[24:03] where we're starting to get down
[24:08] a little bit more into the weeds
[24:09] but this broader sense will be
[24:10] helpful and hopefully see more
[24:17] of our values reflected. Yeah?
[24:21] >> I want to thank you your job
[24:23] a good job of organizing this.
[24:26] It can be really unwieldy and so
[24:28] many things we want to do and
[24:29] accomplish, and this helps us a
[24:33] lot of thank you for the
[24:34] process.
[24:34] >> Councilmember Harris: credit
[24:37] to my chief of staff, gus, he's
[24:39] incredibly organized, very good
[24:44] handle on this. And I think,
[24:46] you know, they meet weekly and
[24:49] all in touch. Yeah.
[24:52] Absolutely. All right.
[24:53] >> Councilmember Owens: thank
[24:54] you, I will add the same echos,
[24:56] thank you so much for creating a
[24:58] great process. I do think this
[25:00] was a more efficient way to talk
[25:03] about in a comprehensive manner
[25:04] our priorities. And so it was
[25:08] good to see that we are largely
[25:10] aligned. And so being proactive
[25:12] in what community safety means
[25:15] for cincinnati, identifying
[25:16] growth at the neighborhood
[25:18] level, certainly important.
[25:19] Service delivery, all of those
[25:21] pieces that keep a city
[25:23] functioning and growing and
[25:26] recognize that's we know our tax
[25:26] dollars are not treatment as it
[25:28] relates to non-profits and
[25:30] competitive processes,
[25:32] extremely, extremely important.
[25:33] Twenty-two to your office and
[25:37] all of my colleagues.
[25:38] >> Councilmember Harris: all
[25:38] right. So without objection
[25:42] we'll move item number 11 for
[25:44] passage. And with that, this
[25:45] meeting is adjourned.
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