[19:58] >> Good afternoon, everyone.

[20:00] >> Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for attending

[20:01] >> Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for attending the special meeting that we

[20:02] And thank you for attending the special meeting that we are having today. It’s 1

[20:03] the special meeting that we are having today. It’s 1 o’clock and we’re going to get

[20:03] are having today. It’s 1 o’clock and we’re going to get started with the invocation

[20:06] o’clock and we’re going to get started with the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance

[20:07] started with the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Jeff Canard.

[20:08] and the Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Jeff Canard. So if you’re willing able

[20:09] by Commissioner Jeff Canard. So if you’re willing able please stand.

[20:17] So if you’re willing able please stand. >> Generally father, we come

[20:18] please stand. >> Generally father, we come to him for today. So thankful

[20:18] >> Generally father, we come to him for today. So thankful for the many blessings in our

[20:20] to him for today. So thankful for the many blessings in our lives. We thank you for this

[20:22] for the many blessings in our lives. We thank you for this opportunity to come together

[20:24] lives. We thank you for this opportunity to come together as a community and discuss

[20:24] opportunity to come together as a community and discuss issues facing us. We pray that

[20:29] as a community and discuss issues facing us. We pray that you would give the years mind

[20:30] issues facing us. We pray that you would give the years mind and heart to to listen to each

[20:33] you would give the years mind and heart to to listen to each other and ultimately to make

[20:35] and heart to to listen to each other and ultimately to make the right decisions for

[20:35] other and ultimately to make the right decisions for community going forward. Lord

[20:39] the right decisions for community going forward. Lord or hurts and prayers. Our

[20:41] community going forward. Lord or hurts and prayers. Our thoughts go out to our first

[20:41] or hurts and prayers. Our thoughts go out to our first responders, both here at home

[20:42] thoughts go out to our first responders, both here at home and around the world. We pray

[20:44] responders, both here at home and around the world. We pray that you would protect them

[20:45] and around the world. We pray that you would protect them and bring them home ultimately

[20:46] that you would protect them and bring them home ultimately to their families safe and

[20:49] and bring them home ultimately to their families safe and sound with. Thank you again

[20:50] to their families safe and sound with. Thank you again for blessing this community,

[20:52] sound with. Thank you again for blessing this community, this poor Lord in Jesus name.

[20:53] for blessing this community, this poor Lord in Jesus name. We pray. Amen. Amen. to the

[21:00] this poor Lord in Jesus name. We pray. Amen. Amen. to the flag. United States of America

[21:03] We pray. Amen. Amen. to the flag. United States of America to the Republic for which

[21:05] flag. United States of America to the Republic for which stands. nation under God.

[21:08] to the Republic for which stands. nation under God. Indivisible, with liberty and

[21:09] stands. nation under God. Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

[21:11] Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. May be seated.

[21:19] justice for all. Thank you. May be seated. >> We’re gathered here for a

[21:21] May be seated. >> We’re gathered here for a special business of the Pine

[21:22] >> We’re gathered here for a special business of the Pine Ridge Circuit Court order.

[21:25] special business of the Pine Ridge Circuit Court order. Looks like we are making a

[21:27] Ridge Circuit Court order. Looks like we are making a motion we were gathered here

[21:31] Looks like we are making a motion we were gathered here together today to decide if we

[21:32] motion we were gathered here together today to decide if we will accept the.

[21:35] together today to decide if we will accept the. >> With the judge has ruled in

[21:37] will accept the. >> With the judge has ruled in the lawsuit or if the county

[21:37] >> With the judge has ruled in the lawsuit or if the county wants to take part in that I

[21:40] the lawsuit or if the county wants to take part in that I will tell chair, sorry if you

[21:42] wants to take part in that I will tell chair, sorry if you want me to do the roll call.

[21:48] will tell chair, sorry if you want me to do the roll call. >> OK, let us know who’s here.

[21:55] want me to do the roll call. >> OK, let us know who’s here. >> I’m going along the agenda

[21:55] >> OK, let us know who’s here. >> I’m going along the agenda here here this is a special

[21:59] >> I’m going along the agenda here here this is a special meeting of the Citrus County

[22:00] here here this is a special meeting of the Citrus County Board of County commissioners

[22:01] meeting of the Citrus County Board of County commissioners on the second day of September

[22:05] Board of County commissioners on the second day of September 2026 and attendance. Our chair

[22:06] on the second day of September 2026 and attendance. Our chair Dianne offend again. First

[22:07] 2026 and attendance. Our chair Dianne offend again. First Vice Chair Janet Bear Second

[22:09] Dianne offend again. First Vice Chair Janet Bear Second Vice Chair Jeff Canard

[22:13] Vice Chair Janet Bear Second Vice Chair Jeff Canard Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s

[22:13] Vice Chair Jeff Canard Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s Commissioner Holly Davis,

[22:16] Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s Commissioner Holly Davis, County Administrator Steve

[22:18] Commissioner Holly Davis, County Administrator Steve Howard and county attorney too

[22:18] County Administrator Steve Howard and county attorney too nice. A time inland.

[22:25] Howard and county attorney too nice. A time inland. >> Well, looks like we have

[22:26] nice. A time inland. >> Well, looks like we have Mr. Scott here also and our

[22:28] >> Well, looks like we have Mr. Scott here also and our own attorney that will

[22:28] Mr. Scott here also and our own attorney that will probably want to say

[22:30] own attorney that will probably want to say something. But, you know, the

[22:31] probably want to say something. But, you know, the sport has had many discussions

[22:33] something. But, you know, the sport has had many discussions about lawsuits and we don’t

[22:33] sport has had many discussions about lawsuits and we don’t need to engage in lawsuits

[22:36] about lawsuits and we don’t need to engage in lawsuits >> I know I read, you know

[22:39] need to engage in lawsuits >> I know I read, you know what came out and what was

[22:41] >> I know I read, you know what came out and what was said. I just don’t understand.

[22:43] what came out and what was said. I just don’t understand. They need.

[22:47] said. I just don’t understand. They need. >> For Citrus County taxpayers

[22:50] They need. >> For Citrus County taxpayers to further spend money

[22:53] >> For Citrus County taxpayers to further spend money engaging ongoing against other

[22:53] to further spend money engaging ongoing against other Citrus County taxpayers. I

[22:57] engaging ongoing against other Citrus County taxpayers. I know. And I hate that there’s

[22:58] Citrus County taxpayers. I know. And I hate that there’s some division and Pine Ridge.

[23:00] know. And I hate that there’s some division and Pine Ridge. But like I had said months

[23:01] some division and Pine Ridge. But like I had said months ago, some of those issues, our

[23:05] But like I had said months ago, some of those issues, our H.O.A. issues and

[23:07] ago, some of those issues, our H.O.A. issues and unfortunately, it’s not for

[23:09] H.O.A. issues and unfortunately, it’s not for this board to figure those

[23:10] unfortunately, it’s not for this board to figure those issues out that is for your

[23:11] this board to figure those issues out that is for your community to figure those out.

[23:14] issues out that is for your community to figure those out. So for that reason, I’m going

[23:15] community to figure those out. So for that reason, I’m going to go ahead and make a motion

[23:19] So for that reason, I’m going to go ahead and make a motion 2 not engage in any further

[23:22] to go ahead and make a motion 2 not engage in any further legal practice, not spend any

[23:24] 2 not engage in any further legal practice, not spend any more taxpayer money on this.

[23:25] legal practice, not spend any more taxpayer money on this. Obviously, the other parties

[23:25] more taxpayer money on this. Obviously, the other parties may engage in whatever. A

[23:28] Obviously, the other parties may engage in whatever. A legal battles they wanted to.

[23:32] may engage in whatever. A legal battles they wanted to. But my my motion is leave it

[23:34] legal battles they wanted to. But my my motion is leave it as it stands. Second. Motion

[23:38] But my my motion is leave it as it stands. Second. Motion by Commissioner Finnegan

[23:39] as it stands. Second. Motion by Commissioner Finnegan second by. Commissioner Kerik.

[23:42] by Commissioner Finnegan second by. Commissioner Kerik. Any public comment. Welcome,

[23:53] second by. Commissioner Kerik. Any public comment. Welcome, Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my

[24:01] Any public comment. Welcome, Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my my I’m still a little bit on

[24:02] Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my my I’m still a little bit on vacation brain.

[24:05] my I’m still a little bit on vacation brain. >> So you have 3 minutes at

[24:06] vacation brain. >> So you have 3 minutes at the podium to speak unless you

[24:07] >> So you have 3 minutes at the podium to speak unless you have a letter and filed, then

[24:09] the podium to speak unless you have a letter and filed, then you will get 5 minutes. I will

[24:10] have a letter and filed, then you will get 5 minutes. I will look at the clerk and she will

[24:11] you will get 5 minutes. I will look at the clerk and she will let me know if you actually

[24:14] look at the clerk and she will let me know if you actually have the letter and file with

[24:15] let me know if you actually have the letter and file with the clerk’s office, she will

[24:15] have the letter and file with the clerk’s office, she will give me an odd Orono. Her word

[24:20] the clerk’s office, she will give me an odd Orono. Her word is gold. Please keep all your

[24:21] give me an odd Orono. Her word is gold. Please keep all your comments. Respectful directed

[24:24] is gold. Please keep all your comments. Respectful directed as me the chair and please at

[24:25] comments. Respectful directed as me the chair and please at this point, keep it relevant

[24:26] as me the chair and please at this point, keep it relevant to the motion that’s on the

[24:27] this point, keep it relevant to the motion that’s on the table. Thank you and welcome.

[24:28] to the motion that’s on the table. Thank you and welcome. Thank you.

[24:31] table. Thank you and welcome. Thank you. >> Yeah, my name is I live in

[24:32] Thank you. >> Yeah, my name is I live in Pine Ridge. The states and I

[24:35] >> Yeah, my name is I live in Pine Ridge. The states and I wanted to bring up this issue

[24:36] Pine Ridge. The states and I wanted to bring up this issue because I kinda doesn’t make

[24:38] wanted to bring up this issue because I kinda doesn’t make any sense to me. At the

[24:42] because I kinda doesn’t make any sense to me. At the hearing when we actually had

[24:42] any sense to me. At the hearing when we actually had the board of County Commission

[24:43] hearing when we actually had the board of County Commission hearing on this issue. We’re

[24:47] the board of County Commission hearing on this issue. We’re the Pine Ridge attorney and

[24:51] hearing on this issue. We’re the Pine Ridge attorney and attorney Lin both stated that

[24:52] the Pine Ridge attorney and attorney Lin both stated that it was illegal. You can change

[24:55] attorney Lin both stated that it was illegal. You can change a dri with the PDC. And I’m

[24:58] it was illegal. You can change a dri with the PDC. And I’m like, wow. So that’s what our

[25:00] a dri with the PDC. And I’m like, wow. So that’s what our attorney said. And then it

[25:01] like, wow. So that’s what our attorney said. And then it went before we had to take it

[25:02] attorney said. And then it went before we had to take it before. A judge even know the

[25:04] went before we had to take it before. A judge even know the commissioners voted. To do to

[25:11] before. A judge even know the commissioners voted. To do to pass that. And that was told

[25:12] commissioners voted. To do to pass that. And that was told that they were told it was

[25:13] pass that. And that was told that they were told it was illegal and they still did it.

[25:15] that they were told it was illegal and they still did it. And my concern is we the

[25:18] illegal and they still did it. And my concern is we the taxpayers pay for an attorney

[25:20] And my concern is we the taxpayers pay for an attorney to sit in this room to give

[25:22] taxpayers pay for an attorney to sit in this room to give you legal advice and then the

[25:25] to sit in this room to give you legal advice and then the commissioners ignored. Why

[25:28] you legal advice and then the commissioners ignored. Why should we the taxpayer? Pay?

[25:34] commissioners ignored. Why should we the taxpayer? Pay? For these legal fees when our

[25:36] should we the taxpayer? Pay? For these legal fees when our attorney, the county attorney

[25:37] For these legal fees when our attorney, the county attorney that we already pay for said

[25:38] attorney, the county attorney that we already pay for said no, it’s illegal. And yet the

[25:41] that we already pay for said no, it’s illegal. And yet the county commissioners violate

[25:43] no, it’s illegal. And yet the county commissioners violate that. I’m like, well,

[25:44] county commissioners violate that. I’m like, well, shouldn’t they be on the hook

[25:45] that. I’m like, well, shouldn’t they be on the hook for that Bill? Not us. Thank

[25:50] shouldn’t they be on the hook for that Bill? Not us. Thank you for your comments next.

[25:50] for that Bill? Not us. Thank you for your comments next. Speaker.

[25:54] you for your comments next. Speaker. >> Anyone else would like to

[25:55] Speaker. >> Anyone else would like to speak on this matter. This is

[25:58] >> Anyone else would like to speak on this matter. This is your chance to speak before a

[25:58] speak on this matter. This is your chance to speak before a motion is Mame.

[26:03] your chance to speak before a motion is Mame. >> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The

[26:04] motion is Mame. >> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The motion’s already been made. I

[26:05] >> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The motion’s already been made. I mean, voted Thank you.

[26:11] motion’s already been made. I mean, voted Thank you. >> My name is John Doerr 1927

[26:12] mean, voted Thank you. >> My name is John Doerr 1927 west about a circle. Pine

[26:13] >> My name is John Doerr 1927 west about a circle. Pine Ridge. I thank you for all the

[26:17] west about a circle. Pine Ridge. I thank you for all the hard work you’ve done. It’s a

[26:17] Ridge. I thank you for all the hard work you’ve done. It’s a tough job and thank you for

[26:18] hard work you’ve done. It’s a tough job and thank you for having this meeting. I am the

[26:21] tough job and thank you for having this meeting. I am the environment, Environmental

[26:22] having this meeting. I am the environment, Environmental Committee chair at Pine Ridge.

[26:24] environment, Environmental Committee chair at Pine Ridge. And I want to let you know

[26:26] Committee chair at Pine Ridge. And I want to let you know that Pine Ridge recently

[26:28] And I want to let you know that Pine Ridge recently passed new tree preservation

[26:29] that Pine Ridge recently passed new tree preservation restriction to stop clear

[26:31] passed new tree preservation restriction to stop clear cutting and preserve mature

[26:32] restriction to stop clear cutting and preserve mature tree buffer zone. All odds. It

[26:34] cutting and preserve mature tree buffer zone. All odds. It passed with a two-thirds

[26:36] tree buffer zone. All odds. It passed with a two-thirds majority vote and that was a

[26:37] passed with a two-thirds majority vote and that was a real clear declaration of what

[26:38] majority vote and that was a real clear declaration of what Pine Ridge once and

[26:41] real clear declaration of what Pine Ridge once and additionally in the board

[26:42] Pine Ridge once and additionally in the board elections. None of the

[26:43] additionally in the board elections. None of the candidates who stood with

[26:45] elections. None of the candidates who stood with Dick’s developers were elected

[26:46] candidates who stood with Dick’s developers were elected and there were 4. So I worked

[26:51] Dick’s developers were elected and there were 4. So I worked in my Butler County, Ohio

[26:53] and there were 4. So I worked in my Butler County, Ohio Township for 20 years in as a

[26:56] in my Butler County, Ohio Township for 20 years in as a volunteer for land use and

[26:56] Township for 20 years in as a volunteer for land use and zoning Committee. Most

[27:00] volunteer for land use and zoning Committee. Most important thing I learned

[27:00] zoning Committee. Most important thing I learned there was that the zoning

[27:01] important thing I learned there was that the zoning rules and land use plan must

[27:02] there was that the zoning rules and land use plan must be can grow. It. Otherwise the

[27:04] rules and land use plan must be can grow. It. Otherwise the rules become effective and

[27:06] be can grow. It. Otherwise the rules become effective and have little value for managing

[27:08] rules become effective and have little value for managing growth. developers, plenty of

[27:09] have little value for managing growth. developers, plenty of loopholes. We had a similar

[27:14] growth. developers, plenty of loopholes. We had a similar situation where development

[27:15] loopholes. We had a similar situation where development was proposed by the

[27:16] situation where development was proposed by the commissioners who typically

[27:16] was proposed by the commissioners who typically past whatever the developers

[27:18] commissioners who typically past whatever the developers presented. But in this case,

[27:19] past whatever the developers presented. But in this case, 400 people showed up. With

[27:22] presented. But in this case, 400 people showed up. With major concern to that was

[27:23] 400 people showed up. With major concern to that was turned down for evaluation.

[27:26] major concern to that was turned down for evaluation. The developer came back with a

[27:28] turned down for evaluation. The developer came back with a slightly modified plan that

[27:29] The developer came back with a slightly modified plan that did not address any of the

[27:29] slightly modified plan that did not address any of the major legal issues and

[27:31] did not address any of the major legal issues and appropriately it did not pass.

[27:32] major legal issues and appropriately it did not pass. Today’s meeting is being held

[27:36] appropriately it did not pass. Today’s meeting is being held because, quote, the court has

[27:38] Today’s meeting is being held because, quote, the court has determined that the board

[27:38] because, quote, the court has determined that the board failed to observe the

[27:39] determined that the board failed to observe the essential requirements of law.

[27:44] failed to observe the essential requirements of law. The court also emphasized the

[27:44] essential requirements of law. The court also emphasized the need to update both the Ldc

[27:45] The court also emphasized the need to update both the Ldc and the comprehensive plan. So

[27:48] need to update both the Ldc and the comprehensive plan. So here’s cheerleading section

[27:51] and the comprehensive plan. So here’s cheerleading section here. Citrus County cannot

[27:52] here’s cheerleading section here. Citrus County cannot live up to its motto where

[27:53] here. Citrus County cannot live up to its motto where nature and community thrive

[27:56] live up to its motto where nature and community thrive unless our ldc and our

[27:57] nature and community thrive unless our ldc and our comprehensive plan matchup,

[27:59] unless our ldc and our comprehensive plan matchup, then our leaders must direct

[28:00] comprehensive plan matchup, then our leaders must direct the developer to comply and

[28:01] then our leaders must direct the developer to comply and they can obey the law. I

[28:05] the developer to comply and they can obey the law. I appreciate that. You all have

[28:06] they can obey the law. I appreciate that. You all have already recognized the need to

[28:07] appreciate that. You all have already recognized the need to modernize both the Ldc and the

[28:08] already recognized the need to modernize both the Ldc and the comprehensive plan. And thank

[28:08] modernize both the Ldc and the comprehensive plan. And thank you for that. So as a designer

[28:12] comprehensive plan. And thank you for that. So as a designer myself, the 2 primary

[28:14] you for that. So as a designer myself, the 2 primary questions I always ask and

[28:14] myself, the 2 primary questions I always ask and must be addressed up front in

[28:15] questions I always ask and must be addressed up front in any plan are what do you want

[28:18] must be addressed up front in any plan are what do you want to keep and what do you want

[28:20] any plan are what do you want to keep and what do you want to change? And according to I

[28:21] to keep and what do you want to change? And according to I do. What we want to keep is

[28:24] to change? And according to I do. What we want to keep is the nature coast. We want

[28:28] do. What we want to keep is the nature coast. We want communities to thrive. And

[28:29] the nature coast. We want communities to thrive. And that is the change that we

[28:29] communities to thrive. And that is the change that we should support. So around the

[28:33] that is the change that we should support. So around the world, communities that

[28:34] should support. So around the world, communities that support environmental

[28:36] world, communities that support environmental preservation and cultural

[28:38] support environmental preservation and cultural development thrive. They

[28:38] preservation and cultural development thrive. They developed a reputation as a

[28:41] development thrive. They developed a reputation as a desirable destination for

[28:42] developed a reputation as a desirable destination for business and for residents.

[28:45] desirable destination for business and for residents. Our motto will not be attained

[28:47] business and for residents. Our motto will not be attained by practicing the status quo

[28:48] Our motto will not be attained by practicing the status quo for development. That only

[28:49] by practicing the status quo for development. That only comes from vision. Good

[28:51] for development. That only comes from vision. Good planning and not compromising

[28:52] comes from vision. Good planning and not compromising on what’s important. The

[28:54] planning and not compromising on what’s important. The developers will be just fine

[28:55] on what’s important. The developers will be just fine no matter what. By not

[28:59] developers will be just fine no matter what. By not appealing the judge’s

[29:00] no matter what. By not appealing the judge’s decision. You show good

[29:01] appealing the judge’s decision. You show good leadership and integrity. I

[29:04] decision. You show good leadership and integrity. I believe you’ll find much

[29:05] leadership and integrity. I believe you’ll find much support from Citrus County

[29:06] believe you’ll find much support from Citrus County citizens if you lead us

[29:07] support from Citrus County citizens if you lead us towards our motto, with your

[29:10] citizens if you lead us towards our motto, with your proactive leadership, we can

[29:11] towards our motto, with your proactive leadership, we can keep the nature coast. The

[29:12] proactive leadership, we can keep the nature coast. The nature coast, and we could

[29:13] keep the nature coast. The nature coast, and we could keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge.

[29:15] nature coast, and we could keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge. >> Thank you for comments. I

[29:25] keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge. >> Thank you for comments. I love the enthusiasm, but we’re

[29:26] >> Thank you for comments. I love the enthusiasm, but we’re going to need to get through

[29:27] love the enthusiasm, but we’re going to need to get through everyone that wants to speak.

[29:28] going to need to get through everyone that wants to speak. So I failed to say at the

[29:29] everyone that wants to speak. So I failed to say at the beginning, please keep your

[29:31] So I failed to say at the beginning, please keep your applause.

[29:34] beginning, please keep your applause. >> On hold. And then when the

[29:36] applause. >> On hold. And then when the hold meetings over, you can

[29:38] >> On hold. And then when the hold meetings over, you can applaud or do whatever you

[29:38] hold meetings over, you can applaud or do whatever you want to OK, we’ll just going

[29:39] applaud or do whatever you want to OK, we’ll just going to get through the meeting

[29:40] want to OK, we’ll just going to get through the meeting right now. Next. Speaker

[29:40] to get through the meeting right now. Next. Speaker place. And I should have to

[29:44] right now. Next. Speaker place. And I should have to say no booing, chairing,

[29:45] place. And I should have to say no booing, chairing, cetera, role, respectful.

[29:50] say no booing, chairing, cetera, role, respectful. >> Did you all take the in

[29:53] cetera, role, respectful. >> Did you all take the in ordering number all start with

[29:54] >> Did you all take the in ordering number all start with one in case I messed up one.

[30:12] >> Good morning or afternoon.

[30:13] >> Good morning or afternoon. I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m

[30:15] >> Good morning or afternoon. I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m with you. Thank commissioner

[30:16] I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m with you. Thank commissioner and just briefly, I want to

[30:21] with you. Thank commissioner and just briefly, I want to say. Thank you for your

[30:24] and just briefly, I want to say. Thank you for your service to the county. for

[30:27] say. Thank you for your service to the county. for those exiting. Thank you,

[30:31] service to the county. for those exiting. Thank you, especially for your service

[30:31] those exiting. Thank you, especially for your service and just. Emphasizing the fact

[30:36] especially for your service and just. Emphasizing the fact that this decision made today

[30:38] and just. Emphasizing the fact that this decision made today is going to impact the next

[30:39] that this decision made today is going to impact the next board and going forward and

[30:40] is going to impact the next board and going forward and going forward. So.

[30:43] board and going forward and going forward. So. >> Not to be I’m not

[30:44] going forward. So. >> Not to be I’m not advocating one way or another

[30:46] >> Not to be I’m not advocating one way or another on your decision. I think

[30:47] advocating one way or another on your decision. I think you’ve got to follow your

[30:48] on your decision. I think you’ve got to follow your lawyers opinion.

[30:50] you’ve got to follow your lawyers opinion. >> But there’s no penny wise

[30:50] lawyers opinion. >> But there’s no penny wise and pound for show. As far as

[30:53] >> But there’s no penny wise and pound for show. As far as Pine Ridge is concerned. I

[30:54] and pound for show. As far as Pine Ridge is concerned. I just want to quote the

[30:57] Pine Ridge is concerned. I just want to quote the philosopher, Kermit the Frog.

[30:58] just want to quote the philosopher, Kermit the Frog. It’s not easy being green the

[31:02] philosopher, Kermit the Frog. It’s not easy being green the green people here represent.

[31:03] It’s not easy being green the green people here represent. won’t speak for all of them

[31:04] green people here represent. won’t speak for all of them but represent. A majority of

[31:07] won’t speak for all of them but represent. A majority of believe in the neighborhood.

[31:08] but represent. A majority of believe in the neighborhood. But unfortunately, as the

[31:11] believe in the neighborhood. But unfortunately, as the previous speaker said, they

[31:13] But unfortunately, as the previous speaker said, they want to at the other. The

[31:15] previous speaker said, they want to at the other. The other side wants to say that

[31:16] want to at the other. The other side wants to say that they got the great support of

[31:18] other side wants to say that they got the great support of the community, but they were

[31:19] they got the great support of the community, but they were actually elected and are in

[31:21] the community, but they were actually elected and are in office would much less than

[31:22] actually elected and are in office would much less than 20% of the community voting

[31:25] office would much less than 20% of the community voting that they don’t really

[31:28] 20% of the community voting that they don’t really represent everybody and Piney

[31:30] that they don’t really represent everybody and Piney Ridge, obviously. So again, I

[31:31] represent everybody and Piney Ridge, obviously. So again, I want to thank you. I want you

[31:34] Ridge, obviously. So again, I want to thank you. I want you to seriously consider your

[31:36] want to thank you. I want you to seriously consider your next move. And again, I’m not

[31:37] to seriously consider your next move. And again, I’m not I’m not for spending taxpayer

[31:39] next move. And again, I’m not I’m not for spending taxpayer money, but the green church in

[31:42] I’m not for spending taxpayer money, but the green church in this room would not have

[31:43] money, but the green church in this room would not have supported. The appeal to the

[31:46] this room would not have supported. The appeal to the circuit court on your decision

[31:47] supported. The appeal to the circuit court on your decision that you made previously, they

[31:49] circuit court on your decision that you made previously, they would have said let that

[31:50] that you made previously, they would have said let that stand. really I fall, though,

[31:53] would have said let that stand. really I fall, though, I alt those people for putting

[31:57] stand. really I fall, though, I alt those people for putting you in this position to make a

[31:59] I alt those people for putting you in this position to make a decision about spending money.

[32:00] you in this position to make a decision about spending money. really them that are. The this

[32:06] decision about spending money. really them that are. The this is the catalyst that is

[32:07] really them that are. The this is the catalyst that is putting you in this position

[32:08] is the catalyst that is putting you in this position is spending more money are not

[32:08] putting you in this position is spending more money are not spending more money at the end

[32:09] is spending more money are not spending more money at the end of the day, we’ll see what

[32:13] spending more money at the end of the day, we’ll see what happens. But I appreciate the

[32:14] of the day, we’ll see what happens. But I appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you.

[32:15] happens. But I appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you. Did you give us your name?

[32:16] time. Thank you. Thank you. Did you give us your name? People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1,

[32:19] Did you give us your name? People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1, 2 north that would drive.

[32:21] People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1, 2 north that would drive. Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge.

[32:23] 2 north that would drive. Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge. Thank you. Number 5. Number 6.

[32:28] Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge. Thank you. Number 5. Number 6. Number 7. Does anyone have

[32:32] Thank you. Number 5. Number 6. Number 7. Does anyone have numbers left to speak?

[32:38] Number 7. Does anyone have numbers left to speak? >> What number you missed

[32:39] numbers left to speak? >> What number you missed South?

[32:49] >> What number you missed South? >> I’m getting on getting

[32:49] South? >> I’m getting on getting pumped to today. I think. Is

[32:53] >> I’m getting on getting pumped to today. I think. Is there any people in the

[32:53] pumped to today. I think. Is there any people in the different room? Okay. Only

[32:58] there any people in the different room? Okay. Only going to be wild today. I see

[33:00] different room? Okay. Only going to be wild today. I see this. Okay. Fine will be wild

[33:14] going to be wild today. I see this. Okay. Fine will be wild >> Good afternoon. My name is

[33:15] this. Okay. Fine will be wild >> Good afternoon. My name is Diane South and I live on Elk

[33:16] >> Good afternoon. My name is Diane South and I live on Elk and Boulevard in Pine Ridge.

[33:19] Diane South and I live on Elk and Boulevard in Pine Ridge. And I am the secretary of the

[33:20] and Boulevard in Pine Ridge. And I am the secretary of the Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam

[33:24] And I am the secretary of the Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam Chair Commissioners, once

[33:25] Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam Chair Commissioners, once again, we are asking our

[33:26] Chair Commissioners, once again, we are asking our county commissioners to

[33:27] again, we are asking our county commissioners to acknowledge what residents

[33:28] county commissioners to acknowledge what residents have been saying since 2023.

[33:31] acknowledge what residents have been saying since 2023. It shouldn’t have taken a

[33:32] have been saying since 2023. It shouldn’t have taken a court order. Our attorney was

[33:33] It shouldn’t have taken a court order. Our attorney was belittled when he advised that

[33:36] court order. Our attorney was belittled when he advised that the citrus staff had been off

[33:37] belittled when he advised that the citrus staff had been off the mark for years. But on

[33:40] the citrus staff had been off the mark for years. But on August 14th, the 5th Judicial

[33:42] the mark for years. But on August 14th, the 5th Judicial Circuit court vindicated him

[33:44] August 14th, the 5th Judicial Circuit court vindicated him and us today you’re hearing

[33:46] Circuit court vindicated him and us today you’re hearing from the P o a board and

[33:49] and us today you’re hearing from the P o a board and committee members who are

[33:50] from the P o a board and committee members who are elected and appointed to

[33:50] committee members who are elected and appointed to represent the official

[33:51] elected and appointed to represent the official position of the peel away and

[33:54] represent the official position of the peel away and the residents we were elected

[33:56] position of the peel away and the residents we were elected to serve. We tune out the

[33:58] the residents we were elected to serve. We tune out the noise and fulfill our

[33:59] to serve. We tune out the noise and fulfill our fiduciary duty. PUA elections

[34:03] noise and fulfill our fiduciary duty. PUA elections have also occurred during this

[34:05] fiduciary duty. PUA elections have also occurred during this time. The message from our

[34:06] have also occurred during this time. The message from our residents was clear and make

[34:08] time. The message from our residents was clear and make no mistake, the majority of

[34:10] residents was clear and make no mistake, the majority of Pine Ridge residents don’t

[34:11] no mistake, the majority of Pine Ridge residents don’t live on the golf course. We

[34:14] Pine Ridge residents don’t live on the golf course. We certainly remember you hearing

[34:15] live on the golf course. We certainly remember you hearing us in January of 24 with the

[34:18] certainly remember you hearing us in January of 24 with the unanimous vote. And so what

[34:21] us in January of 24 with the unanimous vote. And so what happened? We rewarded those

[34:22] unanimous vote. And so what happened? We rewarded those running in August 2024. With

[34:23] happened? We rewarded those running in August 2024. With our vote. Why? Because you

[34:26] running in August 2024. With our vote. Why? Because you advised you understood the

[34:28] our vote. Why? Because you advised you understood the issues and you would protect

[34:30] advised you understood the issues and you would protect Pine Ridge. The master plan

[34:31] issues and you would protect Pine Ridge. The master plan and the golf course. For our

[34:33] Pine Ridge. The master plan and the golf course. For our part, we stated that you

[34:35] and the golf course. For our part, we stated that you should be paying attention to

[34:37] part, we stated that you should be paying attention to the processes of the land

[34:38] should be paying attention to the processes of the land growth management. And so did

[34:38] the processes of the land growth management. And so did our attorney. We believed in

[34:42] growth management. And so did our attorney. We believed in your conviction being

[34:42] our attorney. We believed in your conviction being principled and your integrity

[34:44] your conviction being principled and your integrity and then comes August. 25, we

[34:48] principled and your integrity and then comes August. 25, we were stunned at your failure

[34:48] and then comes August. 25, we were stunned at your failure to support those who supported

[34:51] were stunned at your failure to support those who supported you. It went against

[34:52] to support those who supported you. It went against everything we preach to our

[34:54] you. It went against everything we preach to our residents. We learned after

[34:55] everything we preach to our residents. We learned after the fact that it was Pine

[34:57] residents. We learned after the fact that it was Pine Ridge swinging a close

[35:00] the fact that it was Pine Ridge swinging a close election district, 3 in

[35:01] Ridge swinging a close election district, 3 in support of Commissioner

[35:01] election district, 3 in support of Commissioner Barrick. We got visibly behind

[35:05] support of Commissioner Barrick. We got visibly behind 3 candidates because of their

[35:06] Barrick. We got visibly behind 3 candidates because of their stated understandings. It

[35:09] 3 candidates because of their stated understandings. It should also be noted that we

[35:12] stated understandings. It should also be noted that we supported Commissioner base

[35:12] should also be noted that we supported Commissioner base when she ran in 2022, why?

[35:16] supported Commissioner base when she ran in 2022, why? Because she had stated her

[35:18] when she ran in 2022, why? Because she had stated her commitment to residents in the

[35:19] Because she had stated her commitment to residents in the 2022 Pine Ridge candidates the

[35:23] commitment to residents in the 2022 Pine Ridge candidates the citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters

[35:24] 2022 Pine Ridge candidates the citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters have spoken in 2026. and there

[35:27] citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters have spoken in 2026. and there should be no doubt there will

[35:28] have spoken in 2026. and there should be no doubt there will be a close watch in the lead

[35:29] should be no doubt there will be a close watch in the lead up to 2028, another notable

[35:32] be a close watch in the lead up to 2028, another notable and trackable fact people in

[35:36] up to 2028, another notable and trackable fact people in Citrus County have been paying

[35:36] and trackable fact people in Citrus County have been paying attention to what Pine Ridge

[35:37] Citrus County have been paying attention to what Pine Ridge says and does much to the

[35:39] attention to what Pine Ridge says and does much to the regret of Pine Ridge. We lost

[35:43] says and does much to the regret of Pine Ridge. We lost a champion of the people in

[35:44] regret of Pine Ridge. We lost a champion of the people in commissioner and again, we

[35:47] a champion of the people in commissioner and again, we clearly did our part as Pine

[35:48] commissioner and again, we clearly did our part as Pine Ridge up citrus in supporting

[35:50] clearly did our part as Pine Ridge up citrus in supporting Finnegan over Worthington,

[35:51] Ridge up citrus in supporting Finnegan over Worthington, Herndon, over bays. So we will

[35:55] Finnegan over Worthington, Herndon, over bays. So we will be closely monitoring

[35:56] Herndon, over bays. So we will be closely monitoring commissioners elect Herndon

[35:58] be closely monitoring commissioners elect Herndon and Worthington and based on

[36:00] commissioners elect Herndon and Worthington and based on their Pine Ridge candidate

[36:02] and Worthington and based on their Pine Ridge candidate responses. We have every

[36:04] their Pine Ridge candidate responses. We have every reason to be very optimistic.

[36:07] responses. We have every reason to be very optimistic. So today we want to put

[36:08] reason to be very optimistic. So today we want to put something formally into the

[36:09] So today we want to put something formally into the record that we have already

[36:10] something formally into the record that we have already brought to your attention. The

[36:13] record that we have already brought to your attention. The bocc should order a deep

[36:15] brought to your attention. The bocc should order a deep independent review of how land

[36:16] bocc should order a deep independent review of how land growth management is doing

[36:18] independent review of how land growth management is doing business. Perhaps a blue

[36:20] growth management is doing business. Perhaps a blue ribbon panel of citizens

[36:21] business. Perhaps a blue ribbon panel of citizens disconnected from the current

[36:23] ribbon panel of citizens disconnected from the current ongoing flawed process. It’s

[36:27] disconnected from the current ongoing flawed process. It’s long overdue. And the 5th

[36:28] ongoing flawed process. It’s long overdue. And the 5th judicial court weighed in loud

[36:31] long overdue. And the 5th judicial court weighed in loud and clear in an extraordinary

[36:33] judicial court weighed in loud and clear in an extraordinary 21 page decision. But whatever

[36:34] and clear in an extraordinary 21 page decision. But whatever it takes, it must be

[36:36] 21 page decision. But whatever it takes, it must be objective. The current process

[36:40] it takes, it must be objective. The current process fundamentally flawed.

[36:41] objective. The current process fundamentally flawed. Unbalanced when developers can

[36:42] fundamentally flawed. Unbalanced when developers can work with staff for months

[36:44] Unbalanced when developers can work with staff for months before a matter, reaches the

[36:46] work with staff for months before a matter, reaches the planning and developed mission

[36:47] before a matter, reaches the planning and developed mission or the bocc while affected

[36:51] planning and developed mission or the bocc while affected citizens are left with an

[36:52] or the bocc while affected citizens are left with an after the fact 3 minute

[36:54] citizens are left with an after the fact 3 minute speech. This is not

[36:55] after the fact 3 minute speech. This is not meaningful. Public

[36:57] speech. This is not meaningful. Public participation. The 2026 bocc

[37:00] meaningful. Public participation. The 2026 bocc has an opportunity to get it

[37:02] participation. The 2026 bocc has an opportunity to get it done right? We respectfully

[37:05] has an opportunity to get it done right? We respectfully suggest the bocc support

[37:06] done right? We respectfully suggest the bocc support there. Constituents. There is

[37:09] suggest the bocc support there. Constituents. There is still time to rebuild the

[37:10] there. Constituents. There is still time to rebuild the trust that was lost and

[37:12] still time to rebuild the trust that was lost and perhaps somewhat ironically,

[37:14] trust that was lost and perhaps somewhat ironically, you can thank the courts for

[37:15] perhaps somewhat ironically, you can thank the courts for providing the reason and the

[37:18] you can thank the courts for providing the reason and the opportunity to do it. Please

[37:21] providing the reason and the opportunity to do it. Please vote against the appeal. And I

[37:22] opportunity to do it. Please vote against the appeal. And I thank you for your time and

[37:23] vote against the appeal. And I thank you for your time and your service. Thank you very

[37:24] thank you for your time and your service. Thank you very much. Thank you for your

[37:25] your service. Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments next. Speaker.

[37:33] much. Thank you for your comments next. Speaker. >> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North

[37:34] comments next. Speaker. >> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good

[37:37] >> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good afternoon. Commissioners. I’m

[37:41] Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good afternoon. Commissioners. I’m the president of the Pine

[37:41] afternoon. Commissioners. I’m the president of the Pine Ridge Property Owners

[37:43] the president of the Pine Ridge Property Owners Association. And just to

[37:45] Ridge Property Owners Association. And just to correct the one speaker before

[37:47] Association. And just to correct the one speaker before we had a 33% on our last

[37:48] correct the one speaker before we had a 33% on our last election. 33% of our voters

[37:49] we had a 33% on our last election. 33% of our voters voted. Like you, the

[37:52] election. 33% of our voters voted. Like you, the directors. Thank Directors. Of

[37:56] voted. Like you, the directors. Thank Directors. Of Pine Ridge Poe are elected by

[37:57] directors. Thank Directors. Of Pine Ridge Poe are elected by the residents. We represent.

[38:02] Pine Ridge Poe are elected by the residents. We represent. Our records are commitments in

[38:02] the residents. We represent. Our records are commitments in the issues that matter to our

[38:03] Our records are commitments in the issues that matter to our community. For the past 5

[38:05] the issues that matter to our community. For the past 5 election. The fund, the

[38:08] community. For the past 5 election. The fund, the future, the golf course.

[38:09] election. The fund, the future, the golf course. Property Pine Ridge Master

[38:11] future, the golf course. Property Pine Ridge Master plan and the proposed rezoning

[38:13] Property Pine Ridge Master plan and the proposed rezoning and development have been

[38:14] plan and the proposed rezoning and development have been major issues before voters. In

[38:17] and development have been major issues before voters. In each of those elections. A

[38:18] major issues before voters. In each of those elections. A majority of Pine Ridge voters

[38:19] each of those elections. A majority of Pine Ridge voters have elected candidates who

[38:22] majority of Pine Ridge voters have elected candidates who supported continuity of

[38:22] have elected candidates who supported continuity of purpose in action and

[38:25] supported continuity of purpose in action and maintaining the character

[38:26] purpose in action and maintaining the character integrity and long established

[38:28] maintaining the character integrity and long established print planning principles of

[38:29] integrity and long established print planning principles of Pine Ridge. We’re here today

[38:32] print planning principles of Pine Ridge. We’re here today because we because of Pine

[38:34] Pine Ridge. We’re here today because we because of Pine Ridge was put in a position

[38:36] because we because of Pine Ridge was put in a position that no community should have

[38:38] Ridge was put in a position that no community should have to face going to court to

[38:39] that no community should have to face going to court to ensure that its county

[38:40] to face going to court to ensure that its county government follows its own

[38:42] ensure that its county government follows its own adopted laws and planning

[38:44] government follows its own adopted laws and planning requirements. We filed a

[38:44] adopted laws and planning requirements. We filed a petition with the court. And

[38:46] requirements. We filed a petition with the court. And the court agreed with us. The

[38:50] petition with the court. And the court agreed with us. The court did not simply disagree

[38:51] the court agreed with us. The court did not simply disagree with the board’s decision on a

[38:52] court did not simply disagree with the board’s decision on a matter of policy. The court

[38:54] with the board’s decision on a matter of policy. The court found that the county failed

[38:56] matter of policy. The court found that the county failed to observe essential

[38:56] found that the county failed to observe essential requirements of the law. The

[39:00] to observe essential requirements of the law. The court then granted Pine

[39:01] requirements of the law. The court then granted Pine Ridge’s petition quash the

[39:03] court then granted Pine Ridge’s petition quash the county’s approval, an

[39:04] Ridge’s petition quash the county’s approval, an ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us

[39:06] county’s approval, an ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us here today. You’re now being

[39:11] ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us here today. You’re now being asked to decide whether Citrus

[39:12] here today. You’re now being asked to decide whether Citrus County should spend additional

[39:14] asked to decide whether Citrus County should spend additional public resources seeking

[39:15] County should spend additional public resources seeking repellent, appellate review of

[39:16] public resources seeking repellent, appellate review of that decision. Or expect

[39:19] repellent, appellate review of that decision. Or expect really ask you to consider.

[39:22] that decision. Or expect really ask you to consider. What decision would say to

[39:22] really ask you to consider. What decision would say to people you represent. Pine

[39:26] What decision would say to people you represent. Pine Ridge has spent years coming

[39:27] people you represent. Pine Ridge has spent years coming before the county

[39:28] Ridge has spent years coming before the county participating in its

[39:29] before the county participating in its processes. Presenting

[39:29] participating in its processes. Presenting evidence. Asking that the

[39:33] processes. Presenting evidence. Asking that the integrity of our communities

[39:34] evidence. Asking that the integrity of our communities long established masterplan

[39:35] integrity of our communities long established masterplan respected. The circuit court

[39:39] long established masterplan respected. The circuit court has spoken. They ruled that

[39:40] respected. The circuit court has spoken. They ruled that the process used to approve

[39:41] has spoken. They ruled that the process used to approve this particular application

[39:44] the process used to approve this particular application did not satisfy the essential

[39:44] this particular application did not satisfy the essential requirements of the law. This

[39:46] did not satisfy the essential requirements of the law. This distinction matters. I

[39:50] requirements of the law. This distinction matters. I respectfully asked you to vote

[39:51] distinction matters. I respectfully asked you to vote not to appeal. Thank you.

[39:53] respectfully asked you to vote not to appeal. Thank you. >> Next, speaker. Mr. Hyde.

[40:12] >> Good afternoon.

[40:12] >> Good afternoon. Commissioners. My name is

[40:16] >> Good afternoon. Commissioners. My name is Kerry D-ma relatively new

[40:17] Commissioners. My name is Kerry D-ma relatively new resident in Pine Ridge. I want

[40:20] Kerry D-ma relatively new resident in Pine Ridge. I want to speak briefly about

[40:21] resident in Pine Ridge. I want to speak briefly about something that goes beyond

[40:21] to speak briefly about something that goes beyond this one application and this

[40:22] something that goes beyond this one application and this one property. Pine Ridge is an

[40:26] this one application and this one property. Pine Ridge is an established community

[40:26] one property. Pine Ridge is an established community developed under a

[40:28] established community developed under a long-standing dri and master

[40:30] developed under a long-standing dri and master plan. But what makes Pine

[40:31] long-standing dri and master plan. But what makes Pine Ridge special is not simply

[40:32] plan. But what makes Pine Ridge special is not simply its age. It is it’s character.

[40:36] Ridge special is not simply its age. It is it’s character. The way the community was

[40:38] its age. It is it’s character. The way the community was planned. The open spaces, the

[40:40] The way the community was planned. The open spaces, the recreation areas, the

[40:41] planned. The open spaces, the recreation areas, the equestrian character, the golf

[40:42] recreation areas, the equestrian character, the golf course, property. The larger

[40:43] equestrian character, the golf course, property. The larger lots. Together. Those things

[40:46] course, property. The larger lots. Together. Those things created a place that thousands

[40:47] lots. Together. Those things created a place that thousands of people. Deliberately chose

[40:50] created a place that thousands of people. Deliberately chose to call home. They didn’t

[40:51] of people. Deliberately chose to call home. They didn’t simply buy houses. They

[40:53] to call home. They didn’t simply buy houses. They invested in the community.

[40:57] simply buy houses. They invested in the community. When a community has existed

[40:58] invested in the community. When a community has existed for decades under of Vesta

[41:01] When a community has existed for decades under of Vesta Dri. Masterplan, I believe the

[41:01] for decades under of Vesta Dri. Masterplan, I believe the standard for fundamentally

[41:03] Dri. Masterplan, I believe the standard for fundamentally changing that plan should not

[41:04] standard for fundamentally changing that plan should not be higher. And not lower. It

[41:07] changing that plan should not be higher. And not lower. It should be higher and lower.

[41:12] be higher. And not lower. It should be higher and lower. Please don’t make it easier to

[41:13] should be higher and lower. Please don’t make it easier to dismantle the very features

[41:14] Please don’t make it easier to dismantle the very features that made these communities

[41:15] dismantle the very features that made these communities desirable in the first place.

[41:18] that made these communities desirable in the first place. If someone wants to make a

[41:19] desirable in the first place. If someone wants to make a major change to along that

[41:21] If someone wants to make a major change to along that standing dri community, there

[41:22] major change to along that standing dri community, there should be a compelling reason.

[41:26] standing dri community, there should be a compelling reason. There should be a clearly

[41:28] should be a compelling reason. There should be a clearly demonstrated benefit to the

[41:29] There should be a clearly demonstrated benefit to the community being affected. Not

[41:33] demonstrated benefit to the community being affected. Not simply more density, not

[41:33] community being affected. Not simply more density, not simply greater financial

[41:36] simply more density, not simply greater financial return and not simply because

[41:37] simply greater financial return and not simply because a new owner believes another

[41:38] return and not simply because a new owner believes another use would be more profitable.

[41:44] a new owner believes another use would be more profitable. The question should be, what

[41:44] use would be more profitable. The question should be, what does this change give back to

[41:45] The question should be, what does this change give back to the community? Does it improve

[41:49] does this change give back to the community? Does it improve our quality of life? Doesn’t

[41:50] the community? Does it improve our quality of life? Doesn’t preserve the character.

[41:51] our quality of life? Doesn’t preserve the character. Residents relied on. Doesn’t

[41:54] preserve the character. Residents relied on. Doesn’t preserve the character.

[41:54] Residents relied on. Doesn’t preserve the character. Residents. Relied. Does it

[41:59] preserve the character. Residents. Relied. Does it provide recreation open

[41:59] Residents. Relied. Does it provide recreation open meaningful community benefit

[42:02] provide recreation open meaningful community benefit or does it simply remove

[42:02] meaningful community benefit or does it simply remove something that serves the

[42:04] or does it simply remove something that serves the community for decades and

[42:06] something that serves the community for decades and replace it with something more

[42:06] community for decades and replace it with something more profitable? Because once these

[42:10] replace it with something more profitable? Because once these communities assets are gone,

[42:12] profitable? Because once these communities assets are gone, they can never be brought

[42:13] communities assets are gone, they can never be brought back. The Pine Ridge Golf

[42:16] they can never be brought back. The Pine Ridge Golf Course. Property a perfect

[42:17] back. The Pine Ridge Golf Course. Property a perfect example for approximately 50

[42:20] Course. Property a perfect example for approximately 50 years. It has been part of the

[42:21] example for approximately 50 years. It has been part of the community and the planning of

[42:23] years. It has been part of the community and the planning of this community that is stored

[42:24] community and the planning of this community that is stored should matter. The master plan

[42:26] this community that is stored should matter. The master plan should matter. And thousands

[42:29] should matter. The master plan should matter. And thousands of people who invested here

[42:31] should matter. And thousands of people who invested here rely on that community should

[42:32] of people who invested here rely on that community should matter. Commissioners growth

[42:34] rely on that community should matter. Commissioners growth is important. Property rights

[42:37] matter. Commissioners growth is important. Property rights are important. But stewardship

[42:40] is important. Property rights are important. But stewardship is the most important. Your

[42:45] are important. But stewardship is the most important. Your responsibility is not only to

[42:45] is the most important. Your responsibility is not only to decide what can be changed.

[42:49] responsibility is not only to decide what can be changed. Sometimes your responsibility

[42:49] decide what can be changed. Sometimes your responsibility is to recognize with deserves

[42:50] Sometimes your responsibility is to recognize with deserves to be protected. Please do not

[42:53] is to recognize with deserves to be protected. Please do not lower the standard for

[42:55] to be protected. Please do not lower the standard for changing the established dri

[42:57] lower the standard for changing the established dri communities raise the standard

[43:00] changing the established dri communities raise the standard require a meaningful benefit

[43:01] communities raise the standard require a meaningful benefit to the community for

[43:03] require a meaningful benefit to the community for fundamentally changing that

[43:04] to the community for fundamentally changing that community was built upon.

[43:06] fundamentally changing that community was built upon. Protect the community, protect

[43:08] community was built upon. Protect the community, protect the character and protect the

[43:09] Protect the community, protect the character and protect the people who trusted the plan

[43:10] the character and protect the people who trusted the plan that was put in place for

[43:11] people who trusted the plan that was put in place for them. Thank you. Thank you.

[43:15] that was put in place for them. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker.

[43:27] them. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker. >> To state that and the

[43:28] Next, Speaker. >> To state that and the microphone and then we’ll talk

[43:29] >> To state that and the microphone and then we’ll talk with the clerk, your name and

[43:31] microphone and then we’ll talk with the clerk, your name and who you’re Technicolor.

[43:35] with the clerk, your name and who you’re Technicolor. >> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on

[43:36] who you’re Technicolor. >> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on record as a speaker for the P

[43:36] >> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on record as a speaker for the P l a. Good afternoon.

[43:40] record as a speaker for the P l a. Good afternoon. Commissioners again, Jim

[43:42] l a. Good afternoon. Commissioners again, Jim Reynolds, I live in Pine

[43:43] Commissioners again, Jim Reynolds, I live in Pine Ridge, not on the golf course.

[43:46] Reynolds, I live in Pine Ridge, not on the golf course. I want to address what can

[43:48] Ridge, not on the golf course. I want to address what can easily get lost when this

[43:49] I want to address what can easily get lost when this issue was reduced to a courage

[43:51] easily get lost when this issue was reduced to a courage density calculations and and

[43:55] issue was reduced to a courage density calculations and and development procedures. Pine

[43:55] density calculations and and development procedures. Pine Ridge is not simply property

[43:57] development procedures. Pine Ridge is not simply property on a zoning map. It’s a

[43:59] Ridge is not simply property on a zoning map. It’s a community of 12,000 residents

[44:02] on a zoning map. It’s a community of 12,000 residents that has been developing for

[44:03] community of 12,000 residents that has been developing for nearly 50 years. Thousands of

[44:05] that has been developing for nearly 50 years. Thousands of families have invested their

[44:06] nearly 50 years. Thousands of families have invested their savings, purchased homes, pay

[44:09] families have invested their savings, purchased homes, pay taxes and built their lives.

[44:11] savings, purchased homes, pay taxes and built their lives. Here based on the established

[44:13] taxes and built their lives. Here based on the established character and planning

[44:14] Here based on the established character and planning framework of this community.

[44:15] character and planning framework of this community. The golf course. Has

[44:19] framework of this community. The golf course. Has historically been part of that

[44:20] The golf course. Has historically been part of that framework. The court’s order

[44:25] historically been part of that framework. The court’s order recognizes that this 221 acre

[44:26] framework. The court’s order recognizes that this 221 acre property was historically

[44:28] recognizes that this 221 acre property was historically developed as a golf course.

[44:30] property was historically developed as a golf course. And as part of a previously

[44:31] developed as a golf course. And as part of a previously previously approved.

[44:33] And as part of a previously previously approved. Development regional impact.

[44:36] previously approved. Development regional impact. The application approved by

[44:38] Development regional impact. The application approved by this board sought to change

[44:40] The application approved by this board sought to change that property from a planned

[44:42] this board sought to change that property from a planned development overlay for golf

[44:45] that property from a planned development overlay for golf course. Use to residential use

[44:45] development overlay for golf course. Use to residential use permitting up to 80 new homes.

[44:49] course. Use to residential use permitting up to 80 new homes. That is not an ordinary zoning

[44:51] permitting up to 80 new homes. That is not an ordinary zoning change. It’s a significant

[44:54] That is not an ordinary zoning change. It’s a significant land use change within an

[44:55] change. It’s a significant land use change within an established community. Pine

[44:59] land use change within an established community. Pine Ridge was planned with

[45:00] established community. Pine Ridge was planned with residential neighborhoods and

[45:02] Ridge was planned with residential neighborhoods and community amenities, including

[45:05] residential neighborhoods and community amenities, including equestrian facilities,

[45:06] community amenities, including equestrian facilities, recreation, open space and the

[45:07] equestrian facilities, recreation, open space and the golf course. People relied

[45:09] recreation, open space and the golf course. People relied upon that character when they

[45:11] golf course. People relied upon that character when they chose to invest it live here,

[45:13] upon that character when they chose to invest it live here, including me. So when

[45:17] chose to invest it live here, including me. So when residents say protect the Pine

[45:18] including me. So when residents say protect the Pine Ridge master plan. We are

[45:21] residents say protect the Pine Ridge master plan. We are saying established communities

[45:23] Ridge master plan. We are saying established communities deserve reasonable certainty

[45:26] saying established communities deserve reasonable certainty that their adopted planning

[45:27] deserve reasonable certainty that their adopted planning framework will be respected.

[45:29] that their adopted planning framework will be respected. Otherwise. What does a master

[45:35] framework will be respected. Otherwise. What does a master plan, meaning those owning

[45:35] Otherwise. What does a master plan, meaning those owning designation? ADR? I what do

[45:38] plan, meaning those owning designation? ADR? I what do they really me? If we can’t

[45:40] designation? ADR? I what do they really me? If we can’t rely on them? There’s another

[45:45] they really me? If we can’t rely on them? There’s another important consideration. I

[45:46] rely on them? There’s another important consideration. I like to mention. We’re not

[45:50] important consideration. I like to mention. We’re not asking Citrus County taxpayers

[45:52] like to mention. We’re not asking Citrus County taxpayers to purchase or operate this

[45:52] asking Citrus County taxpayers to purchase or operate this golf course. Private parties

[45:56] to purchase or operate this golf course. Private parties have expressed interest and

[45:59] golf course. Private parties have expressed interest and restoring and operating the

[46:00] have expressed interest and restoring and operating the property. Alternatives exist

[46:06] restoring and operating the property. Alternatives exist that preserve the recreation,

[46:07] property. Alternatives exist that preserve the recreation, the green space and the

[46:08] that preserve the recreation, the green space and the historic character of Pine

[46:10] the green space and the historic character of Pine Ridge without placing any

[46:13] historic character of Pine Ridge without placing any burden on county taxpayers. We

[46:17] Ridge without placing any burden on county taxpayers. We understand Citrus County is

[46:18] burden on county taxpayers. We understand Citrus County is growing but responsible

[46:19] understand Citrus County is growing but responsible growth. Requires balancing new

[46:23] growing but responsible growth. Requires balancing new development with the

[46:25] growth. Requires balancing new development with the legitimate expectations of

[46:26] development with the legitimate expectations of people who are already here.

[46:29] legitimate expectations of people who are already here. We homeowners are investors

[46:29] people who are already here. We homeowners are investors too. Our property values

[46:34] We homeowners are investors too. Our property values matter our quality of life

[46:36] too. Our property values matter our quality of life matters. Our reliance upon

[46:37] matter our quality of life matters. Our reliance upon county planning, decisions

[46:38] matters. Our reliance upon county planning, decisions matter. And our voices should

[46:40] county planning, decisions matter. And our voices should matter, too. The circuit court

[46:44] matter. And our voices should matter, too. The circuit court has quashed this approval. We

[46:48] matter, too. The circuit court has quashed this approval. We feel rather than spending

[46:49] has quashed this approval. We feel rather than spending additional taxpayer funds

[46:50] feel rather than spending additional taxpayer funds appealing that decision, allow

[46:54] additional taxpayer funds appealing that decision, allow Pine Ridge to pursue solutions

[46:57] appealing that decision, allow Pine Ridge to pursue solutions that require any and require

[47:01] Pine Ridge to pursue solutions that require any and require any future proposal to follow

[47:03] that require any and require any future proposal to follow the legally authorized process

[47:04] any future proposal to follow the legally authorized process from the beginning. Please

[47:06] the legally authorized process from the beginning. Please vote not to appeal. And thank

[47:09] from the beginning. Please vote not to appeal. And thank you all. Thank you.

[47:11] vote not to appeal. And thank you all. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker.

[47:24] you all. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. >> Good afternoon.

[47:24] >> Next, Speaker. >> Good afternoon. Commissioners. My name is Ron

[47:28] >> Good afternoon. Commissioners. My name is Ron Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge

[47:29] Commissioners. My name is Ron Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge on North now. Circle and I

[47:31] Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge on North now. Circle and I serve as a committee chair.

[47:34] on North now. Circle and I serve as a committee chair. For nearly 4 years now. 100

[47:38] serve as a committee chair. For nearly 4 years now. 100 residents have been burned in

[47:39] For nearly 4 years now. 100 residents have been burned in this process. Weve attended

[47:43] residents have been burned in this process. Weve attended meetings and hearings. We’ve

[47:45] this process. Weve attended meetings and hearings. We’ve submitted evidence. We spoke

[47:48] meetings and hearings. We’ve submitted evidence. We spoke before this board. Even had to

[47:52] submitted evidence. We spoke before this board. Even had to hire experts and attorneys.

[47:55] before this board. Even had to hire experts and attorneys. And we have followed all the

[47:55] hire experts and attorneys. And we have followed all the rules. And when our concerns

[48:00] And we have followed all the rules. And when our concerns were not heard, we were forced

[48:00] rules. And when our concerns were not heard, we were forced to go to circuit court. We did

[48:04] were not heard, we were forced to go to circuit court. We did not ask for this. And we did

[48:06] to go to circuit court. We did not ask for this. And we did not start this. This is not

[48:10] not ask for this. And we did not start this. This is not something our community wanted

[48:11] not start this. This is not something our community wanted to do. But we had to do it

[48:15] something our community wanted to do. But we had to do it because we believe the laws.

[48:17] to do. But we had to do it because we believe the laws. The land development code and

[48:20] because we believe the laws. The land development code and the protections surrounding

[48:21] The land development code and the protections surrounding our community matters and

[48:22] the protections surrounding our community matters and should be protected. And court

[48:25] our community matters and should be protected. And court agreed. The result was not

[48:28] should be protected. And court agreed. The result was not ambiguous. The court found

[48:32] agreed. The result was not ambiguous. The court found that the board failed to

[48:33] ambiguous. The court found that the board failed to observe the essential

[48:33] that the board failed to observe the essential requirements of law. The court

[48:37] observe the essential requirements of law. The court granted our petition of Reddit

[48:40] requirements of law. The court granted our petition of Reddit of certiorari and the court

[48:41] granted our petition of Reddit of certiorari and the court quashed the ordinance. It said

[48:45] of certiorari and the court quashed the ordinance. It said judgment not to be recorded.

[48:49] quashed the ordinance. It said judgment not to be recorded. Were I believe this board

[48:51] judgment not to be recorded. Were I believe this board should stop and consider what

[48:52] Were I believe this board should stop and consider what has happened here. Pine Ridge

[48:56] should stop and consider what has happened here. Pine Ridge residents have spent hundreds

[48:57] has happened here. Pine Ridge residents have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of our

[49:00] residents have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of our own money simply to obtain a

[49:02] of thousands of dollars of our own money simply to obtain a court ruling requiring that

[49:04] own money simply to obtain a court ruling requiring that the lawful process be

[49:04] court ruling requiring that the lawful process be followed. Now we face the

[49:08] the lawful process be followed. Now we face the possibility that our own tax

[49:10] followed. Now we face the possibility that our own tax dollars will be used against

[49:11] possibility that our own tax dollars will be used against us to challenge the very

[49:13] dollars will be used against us to challenge the very decision we had to pay

[49:14] us to challenge the very decision we had to pay privately to obtain. At some

[49:19] decision we had to pay privately to obtain. At some point commissioners, the

[49:19] privately to obtain. At some point commissioners, the people who live in this

[49:20] point commissioners, the people who live in this community. Have to be heard.

[49:26] people who live in this community. Have to be heard. Residents who raise legitimate

[49:27] community. Have to be heard. Residents who raise legitimate concerns about their

[49:28] Residents who raise legitimate concerns about their neighborhoods should not

[49:29] concerns about their neighborhoods should not simply be dismissed as and

[49:32] neighborhoods should not simply be dismissed as and then be standing in the way of

[49:32] simply be dismissed as and then be standing in the way of development. We are

[49:35] then be standing in the way of development. We are homeowners, we’re taxpayers.

[49:37] development. We are homeowners, we’re taxpayers. We are voters and we are

[49:40] homeowners, we’re taxpayers. We are voters and we are investors in Citrus County. We

[49:43] We are voters and we are investors in Citrus County. We built our lives here. We

[49:44] investors in Citrus County. We built our lives here. We invested our savings here. Our

[49:47] built our lives here. We invested our savings here. Our homes are often our largest

[49:48] invested our savings here. Our homes are often our largest financial asset. When

[49:50] homes are often our largest financial asset. When decisions are made that

[49:53] financial asset. When decisions are made that fundamentally alter or our

[49:55] decisions are made that fundamentally alter or our stab wish community. The

[49:57] fundamentally alter or our stab wish community. The people who already live here

[49:58] stab wish community. The people who already live here deserve a meaningful seat at

[49:59] people who already live here deserve a meaningful seat at the table. We’re like county

[50:02] deserve a meaningful seat at the table. We’re like county commissioners to represent us

[50:06] the table. We’re like county commissioners to represent us and to safeguard the laws and

[50:06] commissioners to represent us and to safeguard the laws and planning framework upon which

[50:09] and to safeguard the laws and planning framework upon which our communities rely on. We

[50:11] planning framework upon which our communities rely on. We should not have to hire

[50:13] our communities rely on. We should not have to hire attorneys and spend hundreds

[50:14] should not have to hire attorneys and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just

[50:16] attorneys and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just to make our voices matter and

[50:18] of thousands of dollars just to make our voices matter and to protect our community. We

[50:20] to make our voices matter and to protect our community. We know growth will happen.

[50:22] to protect our community. We know growth will happen. Property rights matter.

[50:24] know growth will happen. Property rights matter. Development matters. think

[50:28] Property rights matter. Development matters. think minutes But the people who are

[50:33] Development matters. think minutes But the people who are already called Citrus hold on

[50:35] minutes But the people who are already called Citrus hold on one to you. Have you have to

[50:36] already called Citrus hold on one to you. Have you have to state that that you have a

[50:38] one to you. Have you have to state that that you have a letter on file so I can check

[50:39] state that that you have a letter on file so I can check with I did it on my.

[50:42] letter on file so I can check with I did it on my. >> given minutes. So if you

[50:44] with I did it on my. >> given minutes. So if you have a letter and file, please

[50:47] >> given minutes. So if you have a letter and file, please state that so I can always

[50:48] have a letter and file, please state that so I can always check her. If not, I don’t

[50:48] state that so I can always check her. If not, I don’t know if you’re speaking it for

[50:49] check her. If not, I don’t know if you’re speaking it for yourself or for. An

[50:51] know if you’re speaking it for yourself or for. An organization for it. Tumor

[50:53] yourself or for. An organization for it. Tumor Thank you. But the people who

[50:58] organization for it. Tumor Thank you. But the people who already call Citrus County

[50:59] Thank you. But the people who already call Citrus County home should matter too. Our

[51:01] already call Citrus County home should matter too. Our property values matter. Our

[51:05] home should matter too. Our property values matter. Our communities matter our way of

[51:07] property values matter. Our communities matter our way of life matters in our voices to

[51:10] communities matter our way of life matters in our voices to serve respect.

[51:10] life matters in our voices to serve respect. >> The court has now spoken

[51:11] serve respect. >> The court has now spoken clearly. Do not spend

[51:15] >> The court has now spoken clearly. Do not spend additional taxpayer money

[51:17] clearly. Do not spend additional taxpayer money continuing this fight except

[51:19] additional taxpayer money continuing this fight except the ruling do not appeal.

[51:22] continuing this fight except the ruling do not appeal. Allow the parties involved an

[51:24] the ruling do not appeal. Allow the parties involved an opportunity to find a lawful

[51:26] Allow the parties involved an opportunity to find a lawful and lasting solution. And show

[51:29] opportunity to find a lawful and lasting solution. And show the residents of Citrus County

[51:30] and lasting solution. And show the residents of Citrus County that when we speak. Our

[51:32] the residents of Citrus County that when we speak. Our elected officials are willing

[51:33] that when we speak. Our elected officials are willing to listen. Thank you. Thank

[51:35] elected officials are willing to listen. Thank you. Thank you.

[51:36] to listen. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker.

[51:50] you. >> Next, Speaker. >> when I was calling all

[51:51] >> Next, Speaker. >> when I was calling all those numbers, you know what I

[51:53] >> when I was calling all those numbers, you know what I heard? 95.

[51:58] those numbers, you know what I heard? 95. >> Afternoon, my name’s

[51:59] heard? 95. >> Afternoon, my name’s Clipper Taos ski. Here we are

[52:01] >> Afternoon, my name’s Clipper Taos ski. Here we are again, in hindsight. We could

[52:05] Clipper Taos ski. Here we are again, in hindsight. We could have wondered what was there

[52:07] again, in hindsight. We could have wondered what was there another path? Pine Ridge

[52:09] have wondered what was there another path? Pine Ridge developers, Pine Ridge United.

[52:11] another path? Pine Ridge developers, Pine Ridge United. None of them seem to want to

[52:12] developers, Pine Ridge United. None of them seem to want to work together. We have a

[52:15] None of them seem to want to work together. We have a situation left over from the

[52:19] work together. We have a situation left over from the Deltona bankruptcy. The

[52:20] situation left over from the Deltona bankruptcy. The property zoned residential,

[52:20] Deltona bankruptcy. The property zoned residential, but a judge says that you

[52:21] property zoned residential, but a judge says that you can’t have residential homes.

[52:23] but a judge says that you can’t have residential homes. >> Maybe not in so many words,

[52:23] can’t have residential homes. >> Maybe not in so many words, but he did overturn your

[52:24] >> Maybe not in so many words, but he did overturn your approval. We have a

[52:29] but he did overturn your approval. We have a recreational overlay, aka, a

[52:30] approval. We have a recreational overlay, aka, a site plan that allows for golf

[52:30] recreational overlay, aka, a site plan that allows for golf course. Even though it has

[52:34] site plan that allows for golf course. Even though it has been stated here that the golf

[52:35] course. Even though it has been stated here that the golf course was the main intent. It

[52:39] been stated here that the golf course was the main intent. It was not a recreational

[52:41] course was the main intent. It was not a recreational overlay. Ironically, we could

[52:43] was not a recreational overlay. Ironically, we could have a go-cart track there as

[52:46] overlay. Ironically, we could have a go-cart track there as recreation or campground. I

[52:47] have a go-cart track there as recreation or campground. I don’t think any of these

[52:48] recreation or campground. I don’t think any of these people living on a golf course

[52:49] don’t think any of these people living on a golf course would like that version of it.

[52:51] people living on a golf course would like that version of it. Pine Ridge P always say they

[52:53] would like that version of it. Pine Ridge P always say they want to call golf course, but

[52:53] Pine Ridge P always say they want to call golf course, but they don’t want to buy a golf

[52:54] want to call golf course, but they don’t want to buy a golf course. The golf course

[52:58] they don’t want to buy a golf course. The golf course businesses can survive and

[53:00] course. The golf course businesses can survive and have failed 8 times. The

[53:01] businesses can survive and have failed 8 times. The developer wants to change the

[53:02] have failed 8 times. The developer wants to change the site plan, aka the overlay to

[53:03] developer wants to change the site plan, aka the overlay to homes on residential property.

[53:08] site plan, aka the overlay to homes on residential property. Pine Ridge P O and the Dell

[53:08] homes on residential property. Pine Ridge P O and the Dell available developer can seem

[53:09] Pine Ridge P O and the Dell available developer can seem to agree. We can’t make

[53:10] available developer can seem to agree. We can’t make everybody happy. So what to

[53:12] to agree. We can’t make everybody happy. So what to do? They’re making you the

[53:14] everybody happy. So what to do? They’re making you the board of county commissioners

[53:15] do? They’re making you the board of county commissioners be the parents trying to rein

[53:16] board of county commissioners be the parents trying to rein in the children. My thoughts

[53:17] be the parents trying to rein in the children. My thoughts on this. As a consultant and

[53:22] in the children. My thoughts on this. As a consultant and procedures and passed and

[53:22] on this. As a consultant and procedures and passed and other things. I see I read the

[53:29] procedures and passed and other things. I see I read the judge’s decision and I agree

[53:29] other things. I see I read the judge’s decision and I agree with everything except the

[53:31] judge’s decision and I agree with everything except the cautious part of that. It

[53:32] with everything except the cautious part of that. It didn’t seem to make sense. You

[53:33] cautious part of that. It didn’t seem to make sense. You have a dri. Have you really

[53:37] didn’t seem to make sense. You have a dri. Have you really looked into what that means?

[53:40] have a dri. Have you really looked into what that means? Residential zoning,

[53:43] looked into what that means? Residential zoning, residential homes. How is

[53:44] Residential zoning, residential homes. How is there a conflict? The only

[53:44] residential homes. How is there a conflict? The only conflict is in the overlay,

[53:47] there a conflict? The only conflict is in the overlay, aka a site plan. Pine Ridge

[53:50] conflict is in the overlay, aka a site plan. Pine Ridge itself has an overlay, a site

[53:52] aka a site plan. Pine Ridge itself has an overlay, a site plan that allows for homes.

[53:54] itself has an overlay, a site plan that allows for homes. Holmes Holmes. Where’s the

[53:57] plan that allows for homes. Holmes Holmes. Where’s the discrepancy? So my only I

[54:01] Holmes Holmes. Where’s the discrepancy? So my only I don’t really. I’m not really

[54:05] discrepancy? So my only I don’t really. I’m not really for either side. And those of

[54:06] don’t really. I’m not really for either side. And those of you who know me well, know

[54:08] for either side. And those of you who know me well, know that I’m person of common

[54:11] you who know me well, know that I’m person of common sense and I address things in

[54:11] that I’m person of common sense and I address things in a common sense way. But I

[54:16] sense and I address things in a common sense way. But I really caution you to do your

[54:17] a common sense way. But I really caution you to do your due diligence when you’re

[54:18] really caution you to do your due diligence when you’re trying to look at this. Is it

[54:19] due diligence when you’re trying to look at this. Is it really? And air? Because the

[54:24] trying to look at this. Is it really? And air? Because the way I see is it’s a

[54:26] really? And air? Because the way I see is it’s a discrepancy. You need to

[54:27] way I see is it’s a discrepancy. You need to satisfy just Griffin. See

[54:28] discrepancy. You need to satisfy just Griffin. See that. The judge pointed out

[54:28] satisfy just Griffin. See that. The judge pointed out and then resubmit it. This may

[54:32] that. The judge pointed out and then resubmit it. This may simply be regarded as a

[54:33] and then resubmit it. This may simply be regarded as a clerical error. Because the

[54:36] simply be regarded as a clerical error. Because the overlay on a residential zoned

[54:39] clerical error. Because the overlay on a residential zoned property. 4 homes. I don’t see

[54:42] overlay on a residential zoned property. 4 homes. I don’t see where it happened. So I’m just

[54:43] property. 4 homes. I don’t see where it happened. So I’m just a cautionary. Do your due

[54:47] where it happened. So I’m just a cautionary. Do your due diligence. Make sure you’re

[54:48] a cautionary. Do your due diligence. Make sure you’re not just going along with that

[54:51] diligence. Make sure you’re not just going along with that because there is a lot of

[54:52] not just going along with that because there is a lot of division here. We need to kind

[54:53] because there is a lot of division here. We need to kind and this division in Pine

[54:56] division here. We need to kind and this division in Pine Ridge. We need us as a

[54:57] and this division in Pine Ridge. We need us as a satisfactory solution that

[54:58] Ridge. We need us as a satisfactory solution that everybody can agree with.

[55:00] satisfactory solution that everybody can agree with. Thank you. Thank comments.

[55:04] everybody can agree with. Thank you. Thank comments. We’re getting a little

[55:05] Thank you. Thank comments. We’re getting a little restless. And when the speaker

[55:08] We’re getting a little restless. And when the speaker speaking, if you all are

[55:08] restless. And when the speaker speaking, if you all are talking back there, it’s

[55:09] speaking, if you all are talking back there, it’s difficult for us to

[55:10] talking back there, it’s difficult for us to concentrate on the speaker.

[55:11] difficult for us to concentrate on the speaker. So.

[55:11] concentrate on the speaker. So. >> Please remember to they’re

[55:16] So. >> Please remember to they’re very quietly whisperer. Just

[55:17] >> Please remember to they’re very quietly whisperer. Just please keep silent. Okay.

[55:17] very quietly whisperer. Just please keep silent. Okay. Next, speaker. Anyone else

[55:21] please keep silent. Okay. Next, speaker. Anyone else would like to speak on this

[55:22] Next, speaker. Anyone else would like to speak on this matter. person you could it

[55:35] would like to speak on this matter. person you could it out afterwards. Just state

[55:36] matter. person you could it out afterwards. Just state your name and where you’re

[55:37] out afterwards. Just state your name and where you’re from. 3 minute Yes, perfect.

[55:40] your name and where you’re from. 3 minute Yes, perfect. >> Good afternoon. My name is

[55:42] from. 3 minute Yes, perfect. >> Good afternoon. My name is Mario. Leon. I moved to the

[55:43] >> Good afternoon. My name is Mario. Leon. I moved to the Pine Ridge area about 10 years

[55:44] Mario. Leon. I moved to the Pine Ridge area about 10 years ago. I owned property here. My

[55:47] Pine Ridge area about 10 years ago. I owned property here. My parents also moved. He retired

[55:48] ago. I owned property here. My parents also moved. He retired here. So now I call Citrus

[55:50] parents also moved. He retired here. So now I call Citrus County my home. I’ve seen a

[55:51] here. So now I call Citrus County my home. I’ve seen a lot of you involved in the

[55:56] County my home. I’ve seen a lot of you involved in the community looking to continue

[55:58] lot of you involved in the community looking to continue seats. I recognize this venue

[56:01] community looking to continue seats. I recognize this venue the last time that I was here

[56:02] seats. I recognize this venue the last time that I was here was about 2 years ago that

[56:05] the last time that I was here was about 2 years ago that there was a tornado warning.

[56:07] was about 2 years ago that there was a tornado warning. Schools were let out pretty

[56:08] there was a tornado warning. Schools were let out pretty early we had what 3 floors,

[56:11] Schools were let out pretty early we had what 3 floors, additional. Court rooms filled

[56:15] early we had what 3 floors, additional. Court rooms filled with residents adamant about.

[56:17] additional. Court rooms filled with residents adamant about. How to proceed with this with

[56:21] with residents adamant about. How to proceed with this with this decision. I’m surprised

[56:22] How to proceed with this with this decision. I’m surprised to find myself here again, 2

[56:23] this decision. I’m surprised to find myself here again, 2 and a half years later after

[56:26] to find myself here again, 2 and a half years later after the population spoke pretty

[56:27] and a half years later after the population spoke pretty nicely. We elected. You, folks

[56:31] the population spoke pretty nicely. We elected. You, folks as our voices and

[56:31] nicely. We elected. You, folks as our voices and representatives in terms of

[56:33] as our voices and representatives in terms of how we wanted everything to

[56:34] representatives in terms of how we wanted everything to be. I guess to be stuart’s of

[56:38] how we wanted everything to be. I guess to be stuart’s of our community. And frankly,

[56:39] be. I guess to be stuart’s of our community. And frankly, I’m disappointed. That we have

[56:41] our community. And frankly, I’m disappointed. That we have to be here again today. It’s

[56:43] I’m disappointed. That we have to be here again today. It’s difficult for a lot of us to

[56:44] to be here again today. It’s difficult for a lot of us to attend during a weekday. A lot

[56:49] difficult for a lot of us to attend during a weekday. A lot of people work. Some of us are

[56:49] attend during a weekday. A lot of people work. Some of us are retired. Those the king here.

[56:51] of people work. Some of us are retired. Those the king here. Thank you for attending. But I

[56:54] retired. Those the king here. Thank you for attending. But I think the question is very,

[56:55] Thank you for attending. But I think the question is very, very simple. There are

[56:56] think the question is very, very simple. There are alternatives to this property.

[56:59] very simple. There are alternatives to this property. It doesn’t have to be from 85

[57:00] alternatives to this property. It doesn’t have to be from 85 to 80. I’m not sure how 5

[57:01] It doesn’t have to be from 85 to 80. I’m not sure how 5 houses in offense switches.

[57:05] to 80. I’m not sure how 5 houses in offense switches. Very much. You folks know the

[57:07] houses in offense switches. Very much. You folks know the exact details as the residents

[57:09] Very much. You folks know the exact details as the residents in terms of what the

[57:10] exact details as the residents in terms of what the negotiations have been back

[57:11] in terms of what the negotiations have been back and forth. But to me, it’s

[57:13] negotiations have been back and forth. But to me, it’s very simple. This is about

[57:13] and forth. But to me, it’s very simple. This is about money. And influence. We’ve

[57:18] very simple. This is about money. And influence. We’ve elected you to represent us.

[57:21] money. And influence. We’ve elected you to represent us. We’ve spoken in terms of

[57:24] elected you to represent us. We’ve spoken in terms of United Community, we spend our

[57:25] We’ve spoken in terms of United Community, we spend our own money from our association

[57:28] United Community, we spend our own money from our association to stand up for what we think

[57:28] own money from our association to stand up for what we think is right. I see some of you

[57:32] to stand up for what we think is right. I see some of you campaigning and pushing issues

[57:33] is right. I see some of you campaigning and pushing issues forward and we take notice of

[57:34] campaigning and pushing issues forward and we take notice of the ones that do things that

[57:36] forward and we take notice of the ones that do things that make sense to us and don’t. So

[57:38] the ones that do things that make sense to us and don’t. So to me, this is more than well.

[57:40] make sense to us and don’t. So to me, this is more than well. This might be a clerical error

[57:43] to me, this is more than well. This might be a clerical error or, you know, be careful what

[57:43] This might be a clerical error or, you know, be careful what your decisions are property in

[57:47] or, you know, be careful what your decisions are property in the area is at a price because

[57:49] your decisions are property in the area is at a price because of the community. You can’t

[57:53] the area is at a price because of the community. You can’t buy an acre for $5,000 build a

[57:54] of the community. You can’t buy an acre for $5,000 build a house that you want. Ad

[57:55] buy an acre for $5,000 build a house that you want. Ad additional house is going to

[57:56] house that you want. Ad additional house is going to appreciate values for

[57:56] additional house is going to appreciate values for everybody. I’m not that’s a

[58:00] appreciate values for everybody. I’m not that’s a fact. A finance major, I

[58:02] everybody. I’m not that’s a fact. A finance major, I studied at a top university

[58:03] fact. A finance major, I studied at a top university and that’s what it For

[58:06] studied at a top university and that’s what it For everybody that’s moved here

[58:07] and that’s what it For everybody that’s moved here and counts on you to look for

[58:08] everybody that’s moved here and counts on you to look for our best interests up. We’re

[58:10] and counts on you to look for our best interests up. We’re counting on you. And we were

[58:14] our best interests up. We’re counting on you. And we were taking notice. So please,

[58:14] counting on you. And we were taking notice. So please, respectfully, I asked that the

[58:18] taking notice. So please, respectfully, I asked that the original decision of 5,

[58:19] respectfully, I asked that the original decision of 5, nothing. 5 county

[58:20] original decision of 5, nothing. 5 county commissioners for end Roe for

[58:22] nothing. 5 county commissioners for end Roe for that plan to move forward with

[58:23] commissioners for end Roe for that plan to move forward with the construction be upheld.

[58:24] that plan to move forward with the construction be upheld. I’m not sure how the master

[58:27] the construction be upheld. I’m not sure how the master plan or how the new proposal

[58:28] I’m not sure how the master plan or how the new proposal switched. But I respectfully

[58:30] plan or how the new proposal switched. But I respectfully ask that on behalf of myself,

[58:32] switched. But I respectfully ask that on behalf of myself, my parents and all of our

[58:33] ask that on behalf of myself, my parents and all of our residents. Thank you. Thank

[58:34] my parents and all of our residents. Thank you. Thank you.

[58:34] residents. Thank you. Thank you. >> Remember to fill out that

[58:35] you. >> Remember to fill out that card next? Speaker?

[58:54] >> Good afternoon. My my name

[58:57] >> Good afternoon. My my name is Mark we live pink popping

[58:58] >> Good afternoon. My my name is Mark we live pink popping driving. I’m rich. With great

[59:01] is Mark we live pink popping driving. I’m rich. With great power comes great.

[59:02] driving. I’m rich. With great power comes great. Responsibility. We all know

[59:07] power comes great. Responsibility. We all know the super story. The superhero

[59:07] Responsibility. We all know the super story. The superhero stories. Someone is given

[59:09] the super story. The superhero stories. Someone is given extraordinary power and

[59:11] stories. Someone is given extraordinary power and suddenly that person has the

[59:12] extraordinary power and suddenly that person has the ability to change the course

[59:13] suddenly that person has the ability to change the course of events, not just for

[59:14] ability to change the course of events, not just for themselves, but for everyone

[59:15] of events, not just for themselves, but for everyone around them. But there’s

[59:16] themselves, but for everyone around them. But there’s always a catch with great

[59:19] around them. But there’s always a catch with great power comes great.

[59:19] always a catch with great power comes great. Responsibility. In our county.

[59:22] power comes great. Responsibility. In our county. We don’t have 5 superheroes

[59:24] Responsibility. In our county. We don’t have 5 superheroes flying around and cakes. We

[59:26] We don’t have 5 superheroes flying around and cakes. We have something much more real

[59:29] flying around and cakes. We have something much more real and in many ways, much more

[59:30] have something much more real and in many ways, much more powerful. We have 5 county

[59:31] and in many ways, much more powerful. We have 5 county commissioners. 5 individuals

[59:35] powerful. We have 5 county commissioners. 5 individuals who are given the incredible

[59:36] commissioners. 5 individuals who are given the incredible amount of power and influence

[59:36] who are given the incredible amount of power and influence over the future of our county.

[59:40] amount of power and influence over the future of our county. 5 people who can make

[59:41] over the future of our county. 5 people who can make decisions that affect our

[59:42] 5 people who can make decisions that affect our taxes or property values. Our

[59:44] decisions that affect our taxes or property values. Our roads, our neighborhoods, our

[59:46] taxes or property values. Our roads, our neighborhoods, our growth, our quality of life

[59:48] roads, our neighborhoods, our growth, our quality of life and ultimately the direction

[59:49] growth, our quality of life and ultimately the direction our county takes for years to

[59:49] and ultimately the direction our county takes for years to come. And here’s the important

[59:52] our county takes for years to come. And here’s the important part. We give them that power.

[59:58] come. And here’s the important part. We give them that power. We vote them into the position

[59:59] part. We give them that power. We vote them into the position into those positions. We don’t

[1:00:01] We vote them into the position into those positions. We don’t elect them to represent

[1:00:02] into those positions. We don’t elect them to represent developers. We don’t elect

[1:00:05] elect them to represent developers. We don’t elect them to represent outside

[1:00:05] developers. We don’t elect them to represent outside interests. We like to

[1:00:09] them to represent outside interests. We like to represent the taxpayers and

[1:00:10] interests. We like to represent the taxpayers and the residents of this county.

[1:00:13] represent the taxpayers and the residents of this county. We trust them with our voices.

[1:00:14] the residents of this county. We trust them with our voices. We trust them with our

[1:00:15] We trust them with our voices. We trust them with our concerns. We trust them with

[1:00:16] We trust them with our concerns. We trust them with our property values. We trust

[1:00:18] concerns. We trust them with our property values. We trust them with our communities. And

[1:00:20] our property values. We trust them with our communities. And we trust them to listen. To

[1:00:22] them with our communities. And we trust them to listen. To what their constituents want

[1:00:24] we trust them to listen. To what their constituents want and need to make decisions

[1:00:26] what their constituents want and need to make decisions based on the best interests of

[1:00:27] and need to make decisions based on the best interests of the people. They were elected

[1:00:28] based on the best interests of the people. They were elected to serve. Now here’s where the

[1:00:31] the people. They were elected to serve. Now here’s where the super euro analogy really

[1:00:34] to serve. Now here’s where the super euro analogy really matters. Having power doesn’t

[1:00:35] super euro analogy really matters. Having power doesn’t make someone a hero. How you

[1:00:38] matters. Having power doesn’t make someone a hero. How you use the power does a superhero

[1:00:41] make someone a hero. How you use the power does a superhero can use abilities to protect

[1:00:43] use the power does a superhero can use abilities to protect people or they can use those

[1:00:44] can use abilities to protect people or they can use those abilities for themselves. The

[1:00:47] people or they can use those abilities for themselves. The same is true of anyone sitting

[1:00:48] abilities for themselves. The same is true of anyone sitting on the county commission. They

[1:00:50] same is true of anyone sitting on the county commission. They can use their position to

[1:00:51] on the county commission. They can use their position to listen to their constituents,

[1:00:53] can use their position to listen to their constituents, protect the interest of the

[1:00:55] listen to their constituents, protect the interest of the taxpayers and make decisions

[1:00:57] protect the interest of the taxpayers and make decisions with the long-term well-being

[1:00:58] taxpayers and make decisions with the long-term well-being of the county in mind. Or they

[1:01:01] with the long-term well-being of the county in mind. Or they can use the power in ways that

[1:01:03] of the county in mind. Or they can use the power in ways that leave the constituents

[1:01:04] can use the power in ways that leave the constituents wondering. You really

[1:01:08] leave the constituents wondering. You really representing because every

[1:01:10] wondering. You really representing because every vote has consequences. Every

[1:01:12] representing because every vote has consequences. Every decision can change the

[1:01:12] vote has consequences. Every decision can change the direction of our Kentucky

[1:01:13] decision can change the direction of our Kentucky County. every commissioner has

[1:01:16] direction of our Kentucky County. every commissioner has the opportunity to show us

[1:01:18] County. every commissioner has the opportunity to show us what kind of public servant

[1:01:18] the opportunity to show us what kind of public servant they intend to be. When we

[1:01:22] what kind of public servant they intend to be. When we walk into that voting booth

[1:01:23] they intend to be. When we walk into that voting booth where not simply choosing a

[1:01:23] walk into that voting booth where not simply choosing a name, we’re choosing who we

[1:01:25] where not simply choosing a name, we’re choosing who we trust with the power. And once

[1:01:28] name, we’re choosing who we trust with the power. And once again, we give that power. We

[1:01:30] trust with the power. And once again, we give that power. We have every right to expect

[1:01:32] again, we give that power. We have every right to expect them to use it responsibly to

[1:01:34] have every right to expect them to use it responsibly to remember who put them there to

[1:01:35] them to use it responsibly to remember who put them there to remember who they work for.

[1:01:38] remember who put them there to remember who they work for. And to remember that public

[1:01:38] remember who they work for. And to remember that public offices and about what you can

[1:01:40] And to remember that public offices and about what you can do because you have the power.

[1:01:43] offices and about what you can do because you have the power. It’s about what you choose to

[1:01:45] do because you have the power. It’s about what you choose to do with the power people have

[1:01:45] It’s about what you choose to do with the power people have entrusted you with. So perhaps

[1:01:48] do with the power people have entrusted you with. So perhaps the question is not who has

[1:01:50] entrusted you with. So perhaps the question is not who has the power? We already know the

[1:01:51] the question is not who has the power? We already know the answer. The question is how

[1:01:53] the power? We already know the answer. The question is how will they use it?

[1:01:56] answer. The question is how will they use it? >> Thank play. Thank you.

[1:01:59] will they use it? >> Thank play. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. Last call.

[1:02:06] >> Thank play. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. Last call. Okay. close the public

[1:02:07] >> Next, Speaker. Last call. Okay. close the public portion. For public comment.

[1:02:10] Okay. close the public portion. For public comment. Pay board.

[1:02:15] portion. For public comment. Pay board. >> I just want to remind

[1:02:16] Pay board. >> I just want to remind everyone here and the board

[1:02:17] >> I just want to remind everyone here and the board members, we’re not re trying

[1:02:20] everyone here and the board members, we’re not re trying application. We are deciding

[1:02:24] members, we’re not re trying application. We are deciding whether we’re going to put

[1:02:26] application. We are deciding whether we’re going to put money in pursuing lawsuit.

[1:02:30] whether we’re going to put money in pursuing lawsuit. Obviously, I’ve put the

[1:02:30] money in pursuing lawsuit. Obviously, I’ve put the motion. I do not feel like we

[1:02:31] Obviously, I’ve put the motion. I do not feel like we should pursue a lawsuit.

[1:02:35] motion. I do not feel like we should pursue a lawsuit. Whatever Pine Ridge on either

[1:02:36] should pursue a lawsuit. Whatever Pine Ridge on either side does from there. That is

[1:02:39] Whatever Pine Ridge on either side does from there. That is going to be Pine ridge is

[1:02:40] side does from there. That is going to be Pine ridge is responsibility. Commissioner

[1:02:44] going to be Pine ridge is responsibility. Commissioner tonight.

[1:02:45] responsibility. Commissioner tonight. >> Thank you all. Go ahead and

[1:02:46] tonight. >> Thank you all. Go ahead and chime I agree, actually, with

[1:02:49] >> Thank you all. Go ahead and chime I agree, actually, with most of the speakers and the

[1:02:50] chime I agree, actually, with most of the speakers and the we should not spend another

[1:02:50] most of the speakers and the we should not spend another dollar on this

[1:02:54] we should not spend another dollar on this >> I’m adamantly opposed to

[1:02:56] dollar on this >> I’m adamantly opposed to the county spending money on

[1:02:59] >> I’m adamantly opposed to the county spending money on on lawsuits. The seemed to

[1:03:01] the county spending money on on lawsuits. The seemed to just drag on and on and Been

[1:03:02] on lawsuits. The seemed to just drag on and on and Been very clear about that for many

[1:03:03] just drag on and on and Been very clear about that for many years sitting up here. And

[1:03:05] very clear about that for many years sitting up here. And that hasn’t changed for this

[1:03:06] years sitting up here. And that hasn’t changed for this or with this. However, I do

[1:03:09] that hasn’t changed for this or with this. However, I do think the judge got it wrong.

[1:03:13] or with this. However, I do think the judge got it wrong. I think we we do have a text

[1:03:15] think the judge got it wrong. I think we we do have a text amendment that we need to

[1:03:16] I think we we do have a text amendment that we need to address in our L D C and

[1:03:18] amendment that we need to address in our L D C and hopefully we will be doing

[1:03:20] address in our L D C and hopefully we will be doing that very quickly. I’m curious

[1:03:25] hopefully we will be doing that very quickly. I’m curious as how we’re going to go about

[1:03:30] that very quickly. I’m curious as how we’re going to go about curing previously modified ER

[1:03:34] as how we’re going to go about curing previously modified ER eyes without spending another

[1:03:37] curing previously modified ER eyes without spending another dollar on on attorneys fees. I

[1:03:39] eyes without spending another dollar on on attorneys fees. I would suggest that we the

[1:03:43] dollar on on attorneys fees. I would suggest that we the county join as a cold

[1:03:45] would suggest that we the county join as a cold petitioner should the

[1:03:47] county join as a cold petitioner should the applicant decided to appeal

[1:03:48] petitioner should the applicant decided to appeal this provided the county would

[1:03:52] applicant decided to appeal this provided the county would not be exposed to any legal

[1:03:56] this provided the county would not be exposed to any legal fees for the prevailing party

[1:03:58] not be exposed to any legal fees for the prevailing party or any additional fees, then I

[1:04:02] fees for the prevailing party or any additional fees, then I think I think if the applicant

[1:04:04] or any additional fees, then I think I think if the applicant decides to appeal, I would the

[1:04:06] think I think if the applicant decides to appeal, I would the county being a co petitioner.

[1:04:09] decides to appeal, I would the county being a co petitioner. So for that reason, I will be

[1:04:09] county being a co petitioner. So for that reason, I will be supporting your motion if it

[1:04:13] So for that reason, I will be supporting your motion if it passes. So be it. If it

[1:04:13] supporting your motion if it passes. So be it. If it doesn’t pass, the number

[1:04:14] passes. So be it. If it doesn’t pass, the number appeared to make a second

[1:04:14] doesn’t pass, the number appeared to make a second motion. Madam Chair.

[1:04:20] appeared to make a second motion. Madam Chair. >> Commissioner Davis, I

[1:04:21] motion. Madam Chair. >> Commissioner Davis, I concur with Commissioner

[1:04:22] >> Commissioner Davis, I concur with Commissioner Canard. I think that that is

[1:04:23] concur with Commissioner Canard. I think that that is the lies. This course of

[1:04:23] Canard. I think that that is the lies. This course of action. There is. A legal

[1:04:27] the lies. This course of action. There is. A legal precedent with the Dr with

[1:04:27] action. There is. A legal precedent with the Dr with oldie, our eyes. There are

[1:04:30] precedent with the Dr with oldie, our eyes. There are going to imperil home-rule. I

[1:04:32] oldie, our eyes. There are going to imperil home-rule. I believe and I’m adamantly

[1:04:34] going to imperil home-rule. I believe and I’m adamantly opposed to spending any

[1:04:35] believe and I’m adamantly opposed to spending any taxpayer dollars on this

[1:04:38] opposed to spending any taxpayer dollars on this again. And, you know, I

[1:04:40] taxpayer dollars on this again. And, you know, I appreciate you Mr. Scott here

[1:04:40] again. And, you know, I appreciate you Mr. Scott here service to the county don’t

[1:04:42] appreciate you Mr. Scott here service to the county don’t want to pay more bills that we

[1:04:43] service to the county don’t want to pay more bills that we don’t have to. Courts are not

[1:04:48] want to pay more bills that we don’t have to. Courts are not infallible. None of the 5 of

[1:04:49] don’t have to. Courts are not infallible. None of the 5 of us have a legal degree. you

[1:04:54] infallible. None of the 5 of us have a legal degree. you know, take that as a layman’s

[1:04:56] us have a legal degree. you know, take that as a layman’s opinion, but I I am with

[1:04:57] know, take that as a layman’s opinion, but I I am with commissioner Canard. I think

[1:04:57] opinion, but I I am with commissioner Canard. I think they got it wrong.

[1:05:01] commissioner Canard. I think they got it wrong. Commissioner base.

[1:05:06] they got it wrong. Commissioner base. >> I would like to hear from

[1:05:06] Commissioner base. >> I would like to hear from our county attorney apparently

[1:05:11] >> I would like to hear from our county attorney apparently were here today because we

[1:05:12] our county attorney apparently were here today because we have outside counsel here and

[1:05:13] were here today because we have outside counsel here and it appears that. There were

[1:05:19] have outside counsel here and it appears that. There were some concern. On this boat on

[1:05:24] it appears that. There were some concern. On this boat on how or where we’re going with

[1:05:25] some concern. On this boat on how or where we’re going with it. And that’s why you’re

[1:05:26] how or where we’re going with it. And that’s why you’re here. So it. Why are we here?

[1:05:28] it. And that’s why you’re here. So it. Why are we here? If if? We have outside counsel

[1:05:33] here. So it. Why are we here? If if? We have outside counsel here, did you feel that it’s

[1:05:34] If if? We have outside counsel here, did you feel that it’s necessary to pursue this? To

[1:05:37] here, did you feel that it’s necessary to pursue this? To cure any past votes.

[1:05:44] necessary to pursue this? To cure any past votes. >> Candle, I don’t know about.

[1:05:44] cure any past votes. >> Candle, I don’t know about. That’s the part you added at

[1:05:46] >> Candle, I don’t know about. That’s the part you added at the end in order to you only

[1:05:50] That’s the part you added at the end in order to you only have 30 days appeal a decision

[1:05:51] the end in order to you only have 30 days appeal a decision and there are in order to

[1:05:51] have 30 days appeal a decision and there are in order to appeal the decision. The board

[1:05:53] and there are in order to appeal the decision. The board has to give authority to

[1:05:57] appeal the decision. The board has to give authority to whichever lawyers representing

[1:05:58] has to give authority to whichever lawyers representing you on whether or not you want

[1:05:59] whichever lawyers representing you on whether or not you want to appeal it. So we had to

[1:06:00] you on whether or not you want to appeal it. So we had to come before you to ask you

[1:06:02] to appeal it. So we had to come before you to ask you what you wanted to do with the

[1:06:03] come before you to ask you what you wanted to do with the judge’s decision. I had no

[1:06:09] what you wanted to do with the judge’s decision. I had no conversation, no little

[1:06:12] judge’s decision. I had no conversation, no little perplexed by this because I

[1:06:17] conversation, no little perplexed by this because I raise the question about the

[1:06:18] perplexed by this because I raise the question about the dri versus the PD distinction

[1:06:20] raise the question about the dri versus the PD distinction on record and opposing counsel

[1:06:22] dri versus the PD distinction on record and opposing counsel answered and the court later

[1:06:25] on record and opposing counsel answered and the court later built. It’s really non that

[1:06:26] answered and the court later built. It’s really non that exact gap. And so when I

[1:06:27] built. It’s really non that exact gap. And so when I raised that question, was

[1:06:30] exact gap. And so when I raised that question, was there a section of the or the

[1:06:32] raised that question, was there a section of the or the comp plan that could have been

[1:06:33] there a section of the or the comp plan that could have been sighted at that time? If

[1:06:38] comp plan that could have been sighted at that time? If you’re asking I don’t know

[1:06:39] sighted at that time? If you’re asking I don’t know that this is the time or the

[1:06:41] you’re asking I don’t know that this is the time or the place to relitigate what

[1:06:42] that this is the time or the place to relitigate what happened at your meeting. You

[1:06:44] place to relitigate what happened at your meeting. You have a judge’s decision that

[1:06:45] happened at your meeting. You have a judge’s decision that says what you did was

[1:06:48] have a judge’s decision that says what you did was incorrect and now you guys

[1:06:49] says what you did was incorrect and now you guys have to decide whether you’re

[1:06:49] incorrect and now you guys have to decide whether you’re going to let that decision set

[1:06:51] have to decide whether you’re going to let that decision set or whether you’re going to

[1:06:52] going to let that decision set or whether you’re going to appeal that decision. I think

[1:06:55] or whether you’re going to appeal that decision. I think that if you hear from Mr,

[1:06:56] appeal that decision. I think that if you hear from Mr, Scott, he will tell you that

[1:06:57] that if you hear from Mr, Scott, he will tell you that he he does not agree with the

[1:06:58] Scott, he will tell you that he he does not agree with the judge’s decision either. He

[1:07:01] he he does not agree with the judge’s decision either. He can certainly correct me if

[1:07:04] judge’s decision either. He can certainly correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe

[1:07:04] can certainly correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that he agrees with the

[1:07:05] I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that he agrees with the judge’s decision. So whether

[1:07:07] that he agrees with the judge’s decision. So whether or not you guys decide to

[1:07:09] judge’s decision. So whether or not you guys decide to appeal it. Those arguments, I

[1:07:11] or not you guys decide to appeal it. Those arguments, I assume he’ll make in the brief

[1:07:14] appeal it. Those arguments, I assume he’ll make in the brief when you if you decide to

[1:07:14] assume he’ll make in the brief when you if you decide to appeal it or not. Could we

[1:07:17] when you if you decide to appeal it or not. Could we hear from Mr? Scott been, of

[1:07:18] appeal it or not. Could we hear from Mr? Scott been, of course, you can. It was and

[1:07:21] hear from Mr? Scott been, of course, you can. It was and good afternoon.

[1:07:24] course, you can. It was and good afternoon. >> One of the benefits of the

[1:07:24] good afternoon. >> One of the benefits of the position I’m in is I don’t.

[1:07:28] >> One of the benefits of the position I’m in is I don’t. Have to consider the political

[1:07:30] position I’m in is I don’t. Have to consider the political issues that you all consider

[1:07:31] Have to consider the political issues that you all consider that is up for you to decide.

[1:07:34] issues that you all consider that is up for you to decide. But I try to confine my review

[1:07:38] that is up for you to decide. But I try to confine my review of an opinion or an order like

[1:07:38] But I try to confine my review of an opinion or an order like this truly to the the legally

[1:07:41] of an opinion or an order like this truly to the the legally of the order weather my

[1:07:43] this truly to the the legally of the order weather my opinion. pinion upon an

[1:07:47] of the order weather my opinion. pinion upon an opinion. But it whether in my

[1:07:48] opinion. pinion upon an opinion. But it whether in my opinion, it is supportable and

[1:07:52] opinion. But it whether in my opinion, it is supportable and it is my opinion that it’s not

[1:07:53] opinion, it is supportable and it is my opinion that it’s not a support of a ruling that the

[1:07:53] it is my opinion that it’s not a support of a ruling that the court has reached mainly

[1:07:56] a support of a ruling that the court has reached mainly really get right to the of it

[1:07:58] court has reached mainly really get right to the of it in that the court found. In

[1:08:02] really get right to the of it in that the court found. In many ways accepting the

[1:08:04] in that the court found. In many ways accepting the argument that was offered by

[1:08:06] many ways accepting the argument that was offered by Pine Ridge in the so repealed

[1:08:09] argument that was offered by Pine Ridge in the so repealed or the search to proceeding

[1:08:10] Pine Ridge in the so repealed or the search to proceeding that there was no, you’ll see

[1:08:12] or the search to proceeding that there was no, you’ll see the word express. Express

[1:08:17] that there was no, you’ll see the word express. Express process provided in the ldc or

[1:08:18] the word express. Express process provided in the ldc or indie county regulations too.

[1:08:20] process provided in the ldc or indie county regulations too. Dri. That is in the first

[1:08:23] indie county regulations too. Dri. That is in the first instance itself, not terribly

[1:08:27] Dri. That is in the first instance itself, not terribly accurate in that the

[1:08:30] instance itself, not terribly accurate in that the comprehensive plan provides

[1:08:32] accurate in that the comprehensive plan provides that major modifications to

[1:08:34] comprehensive plan provides that major modifications to existing developments are

[1:08:37] that major modifications to existing developments are handled through the Atlas

[1:08:37] existing developments are handled through the Atlas Amendment process. But more

[1:08:40] handled through the Atlas Amendment process. But more importantly or more

[1:08:44] Amendment process. But more importantly or more fundamentally in terms of the

[1:08:44] importantly or more fundamentally in terms of the law that applies in a case

[1:08:45] fundamentally in terms of the law that applies in a case like this is the law does not

[1:08:50] law that applies in a case like this is the law does not require that the board that

[1:08:51] like this is the law does not require that the board that the county excuse me have a

[1:08:55] require that the board that the county excuse me have a directly express explicit

[1:08:57] the county excuse me have a directly express explicit process. This says something

[1:08:58] directly express explicit process. This says something to the effect of. Dr Eyes

[1:09:01] process. This says something to the effect of. Dr Eyes shall be amended by X, Y Z

[1:09:05] to the effect of. Dr Eyes shall be amended by X, Y Z process. That simply is not a

[1:09:06] shall be amended by X, Y Z process. That simply is not a requirement that exists under

[1:09:07] process. That simply is not a requirement that exists under the law. That is an argument

[1:09:11] requirement that exists under the law. That is an argument that was raised by the

[1:09:11] the law. That is an argument that was raised by the attorneys for Pine Ridge. That

[1:09:15] that was raised by the attorneys for Pine Ridge. That is an argument that was

[1:09:16] attorneys for Pine Ridge. That is an argument that was accepted by the judge who

[1:09:18] is an argument that was accepted by the judge who presided over the case that

[1:09:19] accepted by the judge who presided over the case that circuit court. But that is not

[1:09:23] presided over the case that circuit court. But that is not a supportable pretext or

[1:09:24] circuit court. But that is not a supportable pretext or precept. Excuse me. And that

[1:09:27] a supportable pretext or precept. Excuse me. And that is an argument that we would

[1:09:28] precept. Excuse me. And that is an argument that we would be offering on appeal that

[1:09:30] is an argument that we would be offering on appeal that that is a is an incorrect

[1:09:32] be offering on appeal that that is a is an incorrect ruling. In fact, under the

[1:09:35] that is a is an incorrect ruling. In fact, under the under the law in handling

[1:09:38] ruling. In fact, under the under the law in handling quasi judicial matters such as

[1:09:41] under the law in handling quasi judicial matters such as this and a board city council,

[1:09:42] quasi judicial matters such as this and a board city council, a county commission that

[1:09:44] this and a board city council, a county commission that handles a quasi judicial

[1:09:46] a county commission that handles a quasi judicial consideration of a request to

[1:09:49] handles a quasi judicial consideration of a request to change zoning more generally

[1:09:49] consideration of a request to change zoning more generally request. form of application

[1:09:54] change zoning more generally request. form of application or development. The law is

[1:09:59] request. form of application or development. The law is more lenient that I believe

[1:10:01] or development. The law is more lenient that I believe the court. I’ll tell you,

[1:10:03] more lenient that I believe the court. I’ll tell you, hesitant to in some ways to

[1:10:04] the court. I’ll tell you, hesitant to in some ways to get into these things because

[1:10:05] hesitant to in some ways to get into these things because they do get into attorney

[1:10:06] get into these things because they do get into attorney client work product, take

[1:10:07] they do get into attorney client work product, take consideration. But I think

[1:10:07] client work product, take consideration. But I think it’s important to you at some

[1:10:09] consideration. But I think it’s important to you at some level, discuss them. But the

[1:10:11] it’s important to you at some level, discuss them. But the law is a bit more. Forgiving.

[1:10:14] level, discuss them. But the law is a bit more. Forgiving. If I can use that term in

[1:10:16] law is a bit more. Forgiving. If I can use that term in terms of the process that the

[1:10:20] If I can use that term in terms of the process that the government, a board or council

[1:10:22] terms of the process that the government, a board or council goes through in considering an

[1:10:23] government, a board or council goes through in considering an application process. Now, I

[1:10:26] goes through in considering an application process. Now, I understand the argument that

[1:10:26] application process. Now, I understand the argument that was made in the pleadings and

[1:10:28] understand the argument that was made in the pleadings and in the process of saying,

[1:10:31] was made in the pleadings and in the process of saying, well, there wasn’t an explicit

[1:10:33] in the process of saying, well, there wasn’t an explicit express process that was

[1:10:34] well, there wasn’t an explicit express process that was provided for followed. And you

[1:10:36] express process that was provided for followed. And you almost get into a situation

[1:10:37] provided for followed. And you almost get into a situation where argument is repeated

[1:10:38] almost get into a situation where argument is repeated over and over and then it’s

[1:10:40] where argument is repeated over and over and then it’s accepted later by a court. And

[1:10:43] over and over and then it’s accepted later by a court. And then it’s repeated perhaps

[1:10:45] accepted later by a court. And then it’s repeated perhaps following the addition to the

[1:10:45] then it’s repeated perhaps following the addition to the ruling. What you’ll find. It’s

[1:10:48] following the addition to the ruling. What you’ll find. It’s interesting in the in the

[1:10:50] ruling. What you’ll find. It’s interesting in the in the court’s ruling you’ll find

[1:10:51] interesting in the in the court’s ruling you’ll find interesting in the petition

[1:10:51] court’s ruling you’ll find interesting in the petition has filed before the court is

[1:10:55] interesting in the petition has filed before the court is the lack of legal citation to

[1:10:55] has filed before the court is the lack of legal citation to authority to support that

[1:10:56] the lack of legal citation to authority to support that proposition. Now, why this is

[1:10:59] authority to support that proposition. Now, why this is important is not at least from

[1:11:00] proposition. Now, why this is important is not at least from my point of view. And I would

[1:11:02] important is not at least from my point of view. And I would suggest to you is not that I’m

[1:11:06] my point of view. And I would suggest to you is not that I’m supporting or against. I have

[1:11:07] suggest to you is not that I’m supporting or against. I have 0 stake in the political

[1:11:08] supporting or against. I have 0 stake in the political question of whether the Pine

[1:11:10] 0 stake in the political question of whether the Pine Ridge Amendment should be

[1:11:11] question of whether the Pine Ridge Amendment should be allowed at the golf course.

[1:11:13] Ridge Amendment should be allowed at the golf course. However, I would suggest there

[1:11:15] allowed at the golf course. However, I would suggest there is a fundamental governmental

[1:11:17] However, I would suggest there is a fundamental governmental interest from your point of

[1:11:18] is a fundamental governmental interest from your point of view and having the proper

[1:11:22] interest from your point of view and having the proper court versus government or

[1:11:24] view and having the proper court versus government or court versus County bocc

[1:11:25] court versus government or court versus County bocc balance being struck in terms

[1:11:27] court versus County bocc balance being struck in terms of weather, you all are

[1:11:30] balance being struck in terms of weather, you all are permitted to execute your

[1:11:31] of weather, you all are permitted to execute your duties without. Concern. A

[1:11:35] permitted to execute your duties without. Concern. A risk of judicial entanglement

[1:11:36] duties without. Concern. A risk of judicial entanglement in the decisions you make and

[1:11:39] risk of judicial entanglement in the decisions you make and whether you are being made to

[1:11:40] in the decisions you make and whether you are being made to take actions were not take

[1:11:41] whether you are being made to take actions were not take actions based on. Rulings that

[1:11:45] take actions were not take actions based on. Rulings that may not comport with what the

[1:11:47] actions based on. Rulings that may not comport with what the law specifically provides for.

[1:11:48] may not comport with what the law specifically provides for. So in terms of it would, from

[1:11:53] law specifically provides for. So in terms of it would, from my point of view, I would say

[1:11:54] So in terms of it would, from my point of view, I would say an appeal is supportable and

[1:11:56] my point of view, I would say an appeal is supportable and it’s not because of any

[1:11:56] an appeal is supportable and it’s not because of any consideration of what the

[1:11:57] it’s not because of any consideration of what the folks here said with the

[1:11:59] consideration of what the folks here said with the political considerations as to

[1:12:01] folks here said with the political considerations as to whether the development is

[1:12:02] political considerations as to whether the development is supportable. But it does

[1:12:04] whether the development is supportable. But it does appear to be an incorrect

[1:12:05] supportable. But it does appear to be an incorrect ruling. It does. Call into

[1:12:09] appear to be an incorrect ruling. It does. Call into question other activities that

[1:12:12] ruling. It does. Call into question other activities that the board has done or will do

[1:12:14] question other activities that the board has done or will do with regard to considering Dr

[1:12:16] the board has done or will do with regard to considering Dr Eyes, although I will state

[1:12:17] with regard to considering Dr Eyes, although I will state just to be clear for the

[1:12:19] Eyes, although I will state just to be clear for the record, this ruling simply

[1:12:21] just to be clear for the record, this ruling simply applies to this individual

[1:12:22] record, this ruling simply applies to this individual action of the board in this

[1:12:26] applies to this individual action of the board in this ruling cost solely that

[1:12:26] action of the board in this ruling cost solely that individual action no

[1:12:28] ruling cost solely that individual action no injunction, no territory

[1:12:30] individual action no injunction, no territory relief. No striking of those

[1:12:31] injunction, no territory relief. No striking of those provisions are any provisions

[1:12:32] relief. No striking of those provisions are any provisions of the code. That said it does

[1:12:38] provisions are any provisions of the code. That said it does inherently call into question

[1:12:39] of the code. That said it does inherently call into question or offer a bit of asked

[1:12:40] inherently call into question or offer a bit of asked Richter question Mark, as to

[1:12:44] or offer a bit of asked Richter question Mark, as to application of the county’s

[1:12:45] Richter question Mark, as to application of the county’s regulations in the future or

[1:12:45] application of the county’s regulations in the future or past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes.

[1:12:51] regulations in the future or past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes. And there you know, they’re

[1:12:52] past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes. And there you know, they’re that they’re also other

[1:12:52] And there you know, they’re that they’re also other considerations that 1, 1,

[1:12:53] that they’re also other considerations that 1, 1, might. Question when you read

[1:12:55] considerations that 1, 1, might. Question when you read an order like this. The order

[1:12:59] might. Question when you read an order like this. The order and also the the petition in

[1:13:02] an order like this. The order and also the the petition in it doesn’t answer the question

[1:13:03] and also the the petition in it doesn’t answer the question with someone in the county

[1:13:04] it doesn’t answer the question with someone in the county were to have dri. How do they

[1:13:06] with someone in the county were to have dri. How do they go about amending that dri

[1:13:10] were to have dri. How do they go about amending that dri bearing in mind that property

[1:13:11] go about amending that dri bearing in mind that property owners, including property

[1:13:13] bearing in mind that property owners, including property owners who own property with

[1:13:13] owners, including property owners who own property with with Dr Eyes. They do have a

[1:13:17] owners who own property with with Dr Eyes. They do have a right to consideration by a

[1:13:20] with Dr Eyes. They do have a right to consideration by a governing board of amendments

[1:13:20] right to consideration by a governing board of amendments or modifications of land use

[1:13:22] governing board of amendments or modifications of land use controls and those could

[1:13:26] or modifications of land use controls and those could implicate potential concerns

[1:13:26] controls and those could implicate potential concerns of other matters of litigation

[1:13:28] implicate potential concerns of other matters of litigation or liability down the road.

[1:13:31] of other matters of litigation or liability down the road. It’s not that I would suggest

[1:13:32] or liability down the road. It’s not that I would suggest there’s any of those

[1:13:33] It’s not that I would suggest there’s any of those considerations here. But these

[1:13:35] there’s any of those considerations here. But these kinds of rulings that art is

[1:13:38] considerations here. But these kinds of rulings that art is based on the law as they could

[1:13:40] kinds of rulings that art is based on the law as they could be bring those considerations

[1:13:44] based on the law as they could be bring those considerations to the forefront in cause

[1:13:45] be bring those considerations to the forefront in cause uncertainty from from your

[1:13:45] to the forefront in cause uncertainty from from your point of view, I apologize for

[1:13:47] uncertainty from from your point of view, I apologize for that. Perhaps somewhat

[1:13:49] point of view, I apologize for that. Perhaps somewhat long-winded response. But I

[1:13:53] that. Perhaps somewhat long-winded response. But I would I encapsulate my view of

[1:13:54] long-winded response. But I would I encapsulate my view of the ruling it as that.

[1:13:56] would I encapsulate my view of the ruling it as that. Commissioner base.

[1:13:59] the ruling it as that. Commissioner base. >> Is there an example of

[1:14:05] Commissioner base. >> Is there an example of potentially anytime in the

[1:14:05] >> Is there an example of potentially anytime in the past where we did not defend.

[1:14:06] potentially anytime in the past where we did not defend. >> vote. that. This is risen

[1:14:11] past where we did not defend. >> vote. that. This is risen and we did not defend herself.

[1:14:14] >> vote. that. This is risen and we did not defend herself. >> I’m personally not not

[1:14:14] and we did not defend herself. >> I’m personally not not aware of Of any situations

[1:14:17] >> I’m personally not not aware of Of any situations like this. Attorney Lynn,

[1:14:21] aware of Of any situations like this. Attorney Lynn, about you. I’m trying to think

[1:14:27] like this. Attorney Lynn, about you. I’m trying to think guy. I’ve been here 11 years.

[1:14:34] about you. I’m trying to think guy. I’ve been here 11 years. I don’t think we’ve had any. I

[1:14:41] guy. I’ve been here 11 years. I don’t think we’ve had any. I would hate to answer because I

[1:14:42] I don’t think we’ve had any. I would hate to answer because I I would want to look and make

[1:14:45] would hate to answer because I I would want to look and make sure before I I do want to

[1:14:46] I would want to look and make sure before I I do want to guess so. I I really can’t say

[1:14:47] sure before I I do want to guess so. I I really can’t say in the last 11 years, I know

[1:14:48] guess so. I I really can’t say in the last 11 years, I know we’ve had some appeals.

[1:14:50] in the last 11 years, I know we’ve had some appeals. >> I can’t think of a

[1:14:51] we’ve had some appeals. >> I can’t think of a situation where we’ve had a

[1:14:53] >> I can’t think of a situation where we’ve had a court actually quash a profit

[1:14:54] situation where we’ve had a court actually quash a profit and action of the board. Since

[1:14:54] court actually quash a profit and action of the board. Since I’ve been.

[1:14:55] and action of the board. Since I’ve been. >> Working with you all.

[1:14:58] I’ve been. >> Working with you all. >> I don’t think we have at

[1:14:59] >> Working with you all. >> I don’t think we have at least not in the last 11

[1:15:01] >> I don’t think we have at least not in the last 11 years, but I would want

[1:15:02] least not in the last 11 years, but I would want preface that by just saying, I

[1:15:02] years, but I would want preface that by just saying, I want to look to be sure.

[1:15:08] preface that by just saying, I want to look to be sure. >> Commissioner. I see year, I

[1:15:12] want to look to be sure. >> Commissioner. I see year, I listen to it. Commissioner

[1:15:15] >> Commissioner. I see year, I listen to it. Commissioner rises and commissioner do

[1:15:15] listen to it. Commissioner rises and commissioner do says. And I got a letter from

[1:15:18] rises and commissioner do says. And I got a letter from an attorney. You know, the

[1:15:22] says. And I got a letter from an attorney. You know, the Dixon of people that want to

[1:15:22] an attorney. You know, the Dixon of people that want to do that houses. I don’t think

[1:15:27] Dixon of people that want to do that houses. I don’t think that that is right for us to

[1:15:29] do that houses. I don’t think that that is right for us to agree to. If we say we’re

[1:15:32] that that is right for us to agree to. If we say we’re going to say no, you’re gonna

[1:15:33] agree to. If we say we’re going to say no, you’re gonna come up with this other thing,

[1:15:33] going to say no, you’re gonna come up with this other thing, we’re going partner with a law

[1:15:35] come up with this other thing, we’re going partner with a law firm. And it’s the law firm

[1:15:39] we’re going partner with a law firm. And it’s the law firm that represents the people on

[1:15:41] firm. And it’s the law firm that represents the people on the other side in matter.

[1:15:46] that represents the people on the other side in matter. That’s wrong, OK? And that’s

[1:15:47] the other side in matter. That’s wrong, OK? And that’s 100% today I want to I think

[1:15:54] That’s wrong, OK? And that’s 100% today I want to I think we should vote on this. And if

[1:15:54] 100% today I want to I think we should vote on this. And if you don’t want to do, you

[1:15:56] we should vote on this. And if you don’t want to do, you know, we don’t I don’t want to

[1:15:57] you don’t want to do, you know, we don’t I don’t want to spend any more money. So I say

[1:16:01] know, we don’t I don’t want to spend any more money. So I say we should accept. That’s why I

[1:16:01] spend any more money. So I say we should accept. That’s why I seconded the motion. And if we

[1:16:04] we should accept. That’s why I seconded the motion. And if we accept it, that just ended

[1:16:06] seconded the motion. And if we accept it, that just ended this point. And if Mister

[1:16:08] accept it, that just ended this point. And if Mister Dixon just developer governing

[1:16:09] this point. And if Mister Dixon just developer governing it all the developers want to

[1:16:11] Dixon just developer governing it all the developers want to go back to attorneys. They can

[1:16:14] it all the developers want to go back to attorneys. They can go back with their big

[1:16:16] go back to attorneys. They can go back with their big package, which I could

[1:16:16] go back with their big package, which I could expenses in this county. Not

[1:16:18] package, which I could expenses in this county. Not as to the.

[1:16:21] expenses in this county. Not as to the. >> every time I turn around,

[1:16:21] as to the. >> every time I turn around, you know.

[1:16:23] >> every time I turn around, you know. >> We need to be for what is

[1:16:27] you know. >> We need to be for what is going on this county. What do

[1:16:28] >> We need to be for what is going on this county. What do the people want? I hear very

[1:16:30] going on this county. What do the people want? I hear very many people say what we want.

[1:16:35] the people want? I hear very many people say what we want. We want go with D*** says want

[1:16:39] many people say what we want. We want go with D*** says want everybody came up today.

[1:16:40] We want go with D*** says want everybody came up today. Almost every single one came

[1:16:40] everybody came up today. Almost every single one came up and said they were happy,

[1:16:43] Almost every single one came up and said they were happy, please, you know, don’t go any

[1:16:44] up and said they were happy, please, you know, don’t go any further. I think we should

[1:16:46] please, you know, don’t go any further. I think we should vote.

[1:16:50] further. I think we should vote. >> So for me, it’s not about

[1:16:51] vote. >> So for me, it’s not about how many people are for

[1:16:55] >> So for me, it’s not about how many people are for something. How many people are

[1:16:56] how many people are for something. How many people are against something. It’s just

[1:16:57] something. How many people are against something. It’s just the process that we all are

[1:16:57] against something. It’s just the process that we all are supposed to follow. I’m

[1:17:03] the process that we all are supposed to follow. I’m shocked to my dismay. 2 of you

[1:17:05] supposed to follow. I’m shocked to my dismay. 2 of you think that it’s OK to pursue a

[1:17:09] shocked to my dismay. 2 of you think that it’s OK to pursue a lawsuit and have the

[1:17:10] think that it’s OK to pursue a lawsuit and have the developer’s attorney pay for

[1:17:12] lawsuit and have the developer’s attorney pay for it.

[1:17:13] developer’s attorney pay for it. >> I think that is a very,

[1:17:14] it. >> I think that is a very, very bad, bad luck

[1:17:18] >> I think that is a very, very bad, bad luck >> don’t poke please.

[1:17:23] very bad, bad luck >> don’t poke please. >> I don’t. I don’t know how

[1:17:24] >> don’t poke please. >> I don’t. I don’t know how you defend that in the future.

[1:17:26] >> I don’t. I don’t know how you defend that in the future. I don’t know how you defend

[1:17:27] you defend that in the future. I don’t know how you defend that to the people that you

[1:17:28] I don’t know how you defend that to the people that you represent to me. It makes

[1:17:31] that to the people that you represent to me. It makes sense if we have an issue that

[1:17:32] represent to me. It makes sense if we have an issue that the judge has pointed out, we

[1:17:35] sense if we have an issue that the judge has pointed out, we don’t fight against the

[1:17:36] the judge has pointed out, we don’t fight against the judge’s ruling. We certainly

[1:17:39] don’t fight against the judge’s ruling. We certainly don’t say I will help you. You

[1:17:40] judge’s ruling. We certainly don’t say I will help you. You pay for it when when the

[1:17:43] don’t say I will help you. You pay for it when when the person has been an old friend

[1:17:47] pay for it when when the person has been an old friend of some.

[1:17:47] person has been an old friend of some. >> That’s about look, what we

[1:17:48] of some. >> That’s about look, what we do is fix the issue. And then,

[1:17:52] >> That’s about look, what we do is fix the issue. And then, you know, I don’t know where

[1:17:53] do is fix the issue. And then, you know, I don’t know where this ends up later. If the

[1:17:55] you know, I don’t know where this ends up later. If the developer comes back you under

[1:17:56] this ends up later. If the developer comes back you under a new process.

[1:18:00] developer comes back you under a new process. >> But again, for for Pine

[1:18:01] a new process. >> But again, for for Pine Ridge being divided, all that

[1:18:01] >> But again, for for Pine Ridge being divided, all that we all hated it. somebody put

[1:18:05] Ridge being divided, all that we all hated it. somebody put like being being the mom

[1:18:09] we all hated it. somebody put like being being the mom right? Where?

[1:18:10] like being being the mom right? Where? >> That’s not our role. We’re

[1:18:11] right? Where? >> That’s not our role. We’re just supposed to do what we’re

[1:18:11] >> That’s not our role. We’re just supposed to do what we’re supposed to do as a government

[1:18:15] just supposed to do what we’re supposed to do as a government body.

[1:18:15] supposed to do as a government body. >> Now and in the past, I

[1:18:16] body. >> Now and in the past, I voted against it again, not on

[1:18:18] >> Now and in the past, I voted against it again, not on being on one person side or

[1:18:21] voted against it again, not on being on one person side or the other because my believes

[1:18:25] being on one person side or the other because my believes government shouldn’t go into

[1:18:26] the other because my believes government shouldn’t go into people’s backyards and tell

[1:18:28] government shouldn’t go into people’s backyards and tell them, forget, forget your

[1:18:30] people’s backyards and tell them, forget, forget your research and what you’ve done

[1:18:31] them, forget, forget your research and what you’ve done and how you bought this

[1:18:32] research and what you’ve done and how you bought this property. We have the power to

[1:18:32] and how you bought this property. We have the power to change and we’re just going to

[1:18:33] property. We have the power to change and we’re just going to change it. I philosophically

[1:18:35] change and we’re just going to change it. I philosophically don’t believe. That’s right.

[1:18:36] change it. I philosophically don’t believe. That’s right. And I certainly don’t think

[1:18:39] don’t believe. That’s right. And I certainly don’t think it’s right that we pay or let

[1:18:42] And I certainly don’t think it’s right that we pay or let somebody.

[1:18:42] it’s right that we pay or let somebody. >> That’s on the opposing side

[1:18:44] somebody. >> That’s on the opposing side against any of our people to

[1:18:48] >> That’s on the opposing side against any of our people to pursue a lawsuit that is

[1:18:49] against any of our people to pursue a lawsuit that is that’s wrong on. So so many

[1:18:51] pursue a lawsuit that is that’s wrong on. So so many levels. So I hope, although I

[1:18:54] that’s wrong on. So so many levels. So I hope, although I feel like this is fairly

[1:18:57] levels. So I hope, although I feel like this is fairly predictable that somebody up

[1:19:00] feel like this is fairly predictable that somebody up here also would realize that

[1:19:02] predictable that somebody up here also would realize that and let them pursue this in

[1:19:04] here also would realize that and let them pursue this in the correct way. Not in a way

[1:19:07] and let them pursue this in the correct way. Not in a way where we’re on behalf of all

[1:19:08] the correct way. Not in a way where we’re on behalf of all taxpayers, not just anybody

[1:19:09] where we’re on behalf of all taxpayers, not just anybody living high ridge pursuing a

[1:19:13] taxpayers, not just anybody living high ridge pursuing a lawsuit because we don’t like

[1:19:13] living high ridge pursuing a lawsuit because we don’t like a judge’s decision. Madam

[1:19:17] lawsuit because we don’t like a judge’s decision. Madam Commissioner, can I do?

[1:19:20] a judge’s decision. Madam Commissioner, can I do? >> Deal? First of all, thank

[1:19:22] Commissioner, can I do? >> Deal? First of all, thank An excellent. Discussion about

[1:19:29] >> Deal? First of all, thank An excellent. Discussion about where we’re at and you what

[1:19:31] An excellent. Discussion about where we’re at and you what your position is on the

[1:19:33] where we’re at and you what your position is on the judges. judge’s order. So it

[1:19:36] your position is on the judges. judge’s order. So it led me to to believe that

[1:19:39] judges. judge’s order. So it led me to to believe that rather than suggesting that we

[1:19:42] led me to to believe that rather than suggesting that we need to a cure previously

[1:19:44] rather than suggesting that we need to a cure previously modified eyes that we need to

[1:19:47] need to a cure previously modified eyes that we need to protect past decisions on

[1:19:48] modified eyes that we need to protect past decisions on modifying Dr Eyes. And if that

[1:19:53] protect past decisions on modifying Dr Eyes. And if that means board action on a text

[1:19:54] modifying Dr Eyes. And if that means board action on a text amendment the sea to do that

[1:19:58] means board action on a text amendment the sea to do that so that we don’t end up

[1:19:59] amendment the sea to do that so that we don’t end up having. Another decision like

[1:20:07] so that we don’t end up having. Another decision like this. The holy disagree with

[1:20:08] having. Another decision like this. The holy disagree with this. Not about picking sides.

[1:20:09] this. The holy disagree with this. Not about picking sides. One where the other symbol. I

[1:20:10] this. Not about picking sides. One where the other symbol. I disagree with the judge

[1:20:11] One where the other symbol. I disagree with the judge decided and I unbiased legal

[1:20:18] disagree with the judge decided and I unbiased legal opinions would would arrive at

[1:20:18] decided and I unbiased legal opinions would would arrive at the same decision. But I do

[1:20:22] opinions would would arrive at the same decision. But I do believe that Muslim got it

[1:20:23] the same decision. But I do believe that Muslim got it wrong. We have we have one of

[1:20:25] believe that Muslim got it wrong. We have we have one of 3 options, not just to accept

[1:20:28] wrong. We have we have one of 3 options, not just to accept or appeal. I disagree with his

[1:20:31] 3 options, not just to accept or appeal. I disagree with his decision and I think that we

[1:20:33] or appeal. I disagree with his decision and I think that we can appeal as Ako petitioner,

[1:20:34] decision and I think that we can appeal as Ako petitioner, as I said before, I don’t know

[1:20:38] can appeal as Ako petitioner, as I said before, I don’t know been single dollar on this,

[1:20:40] as I said before, I don’t know been single dollar on this, but I disagree with that. I

[1:20:42] been single dollar on this, but I disagree with that. I think the a judge and

[1:20:45] but I disagree with that. I think the a judge and appellate judge has the

[1:20:46] think the a judge and appellate judge has the opportunity should get the

[1:20:48] appellate judge has the opportunity should get the opportunity to demonstrate

[1:20:49] opportunity should get the opportunity to demonstrate that that opinion was wrong.

[1:20:52] opportunity to demonstrate that that opinion was wrong. So again, I appreciate where

[1:20:53] that that opinion was wrong. So again, I appreciate where you’re but I won’t be

[1:20:54] So again, I appreciate where you’re but I won’t be supporting your motion. And if

[1:20:56] you’re but I won’t be supporting your motion. And if it fails, I will be making a

[1:20:57] supporting your motion. And if it fails, I will be making a motion enter as a as a co

[1:21:02] it fails, I will be making a motion enter as a as a co petitioner.

[1:21:06] motion enter as a as a co petitioner. >> Anyone have comments before

[1:21:07] petitioner. >> Anyone have comments before I call the vote. Italy’s?

[1:21:11] >> Anyone have comments before I call the vote. Italy’s? quiet quiet. Please. We don’t

[1:21:14] I call the vote. Italy’s? quiet quiet. Please. We don’t have anyone in this room

[1:21:15] quiet quiet. Please. We don’t have anyone in this room again. Is that? Law

[1:21:22] have anyone in this room again. Is that? Law enforcement’s not in this room

[1:21:24] again. Is that? Law enforcement’s not in this room hit.

[1:21:24] enforcement’s not in this room hit. >> Here we here we are again.

[1:21:29] hit. >> Here we here we are again. >> Board. Any other comments.

[1:21:36] >> Here we here we are again. >> Board. Any other comments. All those in favor. Aye, any

[1:21:37] >> Board. Any other comments. All those in favor. Aye, any opposed nay motion fails. 3,

[1:21:38] All those in favor. Aye, any opposed nay motion fails. 3, 2, Madam Chair.

[1:21:43] opposed nay motion fails. 3, 2, Madam Chair. >> I would make a motion that

[1:21:46] 2, Madam Chair. >> I would make a motion that that the county participated

[1:21:47] >> I would make a motion that that the county participated in an appeal is a co

[1:21:50] that the county participated in an appeal is a co petitioner provided that we

[1:21:51] in an appeal is a co petitioner provided that we would not be exposed to any

[1:21:55] petitioner provided that we would not be exposed to any fees of prevailing party.

[1:21:56] would not be exposed to any fees of prevailing party. Second.

[1:22:00] fees of prevailing party. Second. >> I have a motion by

[1:22:01] Second. >> I have a motion by commissioner Canard and the

[1:22:02] >> I have a motion by commissioner Canard and the second by Commissioner Davis.

[1:22:04] commissioner Canard and the second by Commissioner Davis. Any public comment. We are not

[1:22:08] second by Commissioner Davis. Any public comment. We are not in number orders. So if you’ve

[1:22:11] Any public comment. We are not in number orders. So if you’ve already submitted a green card

[1:22:12] in number orders. So if you’ve already submitted a green card and you’ve spoken on the last

[1:22:13] already submitted a green card and you’ve spoken on the last motion, you do not have to

[1:22:16] and you’ve spoken on the last motion, you do not have to submit another green card. And

[1:22:28] motion, you do not have to submit another green card. And you that my motion picks,

[1:22:30] submit another green card. And you that my motion picks, they’re not going to respect

[1:22:33] you that my motion picks, they’re not going to respect you so I’m gonna need a deputy

[1:22:35] they’re not going to respect you so I’m gonna need a deputy in this room. I don’t I you’re

[1:22:37] you so I’m gonna need a deputy in this room. I don’t I you’re supposed to be listening and

[1:22:37] in this room. I don’t I you’re supposed to be listening and you’re supposed to be in this

[1:22:39] supposed to be listening and you’re supposed to be in this room. So

[1:22:39] you’re supposed to be in this room. So >> it would help me keep

[1:22:40] room. So >> it would help me keep order. Hopefully they’re

[1:22:42] >> it would help me keep order. Hopefully they’re listening. And for those that

[1:22:49] order. Hopefully they’re listening. And for those that weren’t paying attention, I

[1:22:50] listening. And for those that weren’t paying attention, I made a motion and it failed.

[1:22:54] weren’t paying attention, I made a motion and it failed. So now there’s a new motion

[1:22:54] made a motion and it failed. So now there’s a new motion and now we are opening backup

[1:22:56] So now there’s a new motion and now we are opening backup to public comment. It’s I’m

[1:23:01] and now we are opening backup to public comment. It’s I’m able high ridge estates.

[1:23:04] to public comment. It’s I’m able high ridge estates. >> OK, in this particular

[1:23:05] able high ridge estates. >> OK, in this particular instance. You’re telling me

[1:23:07] >> OK, in this particular instance. You’re telling me that the county board of

[1:23:09] instance. You’re telling me that the county board of Commissioners. Would be. Co

[1:23:13] that the county board of Commissioners. Would be. Co applicants with Dick’s. To

[1:23:16] Commissioners. Would be. Co applicants with Dick’s. To appeal this. Now. What kind of

[1:23:21] applicants with Dick’s. To appeal this. Now. What kind of liability does the county

[1:23:23] appeal this. Now. What kind of liability does the county face? Okay. So. What if This

[1:23:28] liability does the county face? Okay. So. What if This could go seriously wrong when

[1:23:29] face? Okay. So. What if This could go seriously wrong when your favor. Because remember

[1:23:33] could go seriously wrong when your favor. Because remember anything stated in the court?

[1:23:35] your favor. Because remember anything stated in the court? It’s illegal. Is legal can be

[1:23:40] anything stated in the court? It’s illegal. Is legal can be challenged and could if they

[1:23:41] It’s illegal. Is legal can be challenged and could if they say something. On your behalf,

[1:23:46] challenged and could if they say something. On your behalf, that’s absolutely wrong.

[1:23:47] say something. On your behalf, that’s absolutely wrong. Defamation, whatever, whatever

[1:23:50] that’s absolutely wrong. Defamation, whatever, whatever you could end of big suit

[1:23:51] Defamation, whatever, whatever you could end of big suit extensively. I think you all

[1:23:55] you could end of big suit extensively. I think you all to really think about that

[1:23:56] extensively. I think you all to really think about that because what kind of exposure

[1:24:00] to really think about that because what kind of exposure are you leaving us? The county

[1:24:02] because what kind of exposure are you leaving us? The county residents? I mean, this is

[1:24:05] are you leaving us? The county residents? I mean, this is going to be serious if it goes

[1:24:07] residents? I mean, this is going to be serious if it goes to her. Thank Thank you for

[1:24:10] going to be serious if it goes to her. Thank Thank you for your comments next. Speaker.

[1:24:16] to her. Thank Thank you for your comments next. Speaker. >> Kind of see people behind

[1:24:16] your comments next. Speaker. >> Kind of see people behind the wall? 3 minutes. Yes,

[1:24:24] >> Kind of see people behind the wall? 3 minutes. Yes, State your name and where

[1:24:25] the wall? 3 minutes. Yes, State your name and where you’re from. A good afternoon,

[1:24:28] State your name and where you’re from. A good afternoon, Mario Leon, I moved here 10

[1:24:29] you’re from. A good afternoon, Mario Leon, I moved here 10 years The property owner, my

[1:24:30] Mario Leon, I moved here 10 years The property owner, my parents live here. I different

[1:24:31] years The property owner, my parents live here. I different properties in Pine Ridge.

[1:24:33] parents live here. I different properties in Pine Ridge. Also.

[1:24:34] properties in Pine Ridge. Also. >> Volunteer coach soccer club

[1:24:36] Also. >> Volunteer coach soccer club Citrus assessor, but involved

[1:24:39] >> Volunteer coach soccer club Citrus assessor, but involved with kids for an extended

[1:24:39] Citrus assessor, but involved with kids for an extended period of time. My son

[1:24:40] with kids for an extended period of time. My son graduated high school lecanto.

[1:24:43] period of time. My son graduated high school lecanto. He’s at freshman on a college

[1:24:45] graduated high school lecanto. He’s at freshman on a college scholarship playing soccer. I

[1:24:48] He’s at freshman on a college scholarship playing soccer. I the extent of ties to the

[1:24:49] scholarship playing soccer. I the extent of ties to the community. I know everybody

[1:24:52] the extent of ties to the community. I know everybody that to he’s passionate about.

[1:24:53] community. I know everybody that to he’s passionate about. This is not here today because

[1:24:54] that to he’s passionate about. This is not here today because it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday.

[1:24:58] This is not here today because it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday. >> I’m I’m sorry. I just

[1:24:59] it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday. >> I’m I’m sorry. I just needed to stop your time.

[1:24:59] >> I’m I’m sorry. I just needed to stop your time. Permanent attorneys. I don’t

[1:25:02] needed to stop your time. Permanent attorneys. I don’t know if you need to walk out,

[1:25:03] Permanent attorneys. I don’t know if you need to walk out, but very distracting politics

[1:25:06] know if you need to walk out, but very distracting politics Okay. Thank you. So we’re on

[1:25:08] but very distracting politics Okay. Thank you. So we’re on the same page. I have

[1:25:11] Okay. Thank you. So we’re on the same page. I have extensive ties. The community

[1:25:11] the same page. I have extensive ties. The community volunteering at local club, a

[1:25:12] extensive ties. The community volunteering at local club, a local soccer club.

[1:25:14] volunteering at local club, a local soccer club. >> My son is also recent

[1:25:15] local soccer club. >> My son is also recent graduate high school. So this

[1:25:18] >> My son is also recent graduate high school. So this is to me dieron passionate.

[1:25:22] graduate high school. So this is to me dieron passionate. I’m confused, extremely

[1:25:23] is to me dieron passionate. I’m confused, extremely confused with a lot of our

[1:25:24] I’m confused, extremely confused with a lot of our residents there in the area.

[1:25:28] confused with a lot of our residents there in the area. to understand that this board

[1:25:30] residents there in the area. to understand that this board after originally voting 5, 0,

[1:25:32] to understand that this board after originally voting 5, 0, We’ve gotten to a point now

[1:25:33] after originally voting 5, 0, We’ve gotten to a point now where we’re 3, 2, in favor of

[1:25:35] We’ve gotten to a point now where we’re 3, 2, in favor of selling 220 acres. Off market

[1:25:39] where we’re 3, 2, in favor of selling 220 acres. Off market property. That’s a common

[1:25:41] selling 220 acres. Off market property. That’s a common space privately to a

[1:25:44] property. That’s a common space privately to a developer. Pennies on the

[1:25:45] space privately to a developer. Pennies on the dollar at less than $5,000. An

[1:25:47] developer. Pennies on the dollar at less than $5,000. An acre and then they’re going to

[1:25:48] dollar at less than $5,000. An acre and then they’re going to bring that petition to board.

[1:25:51] acre and then they’re going to bring that petition to board. To develop 220 acres into a

[1:25:54] bring that petition to board. To develop 220 acres into a tea houses. You can do the

[1:25:55] To develop 220 acres into a tea houses. You can do the math in terms of what the

[1:25:56] tea houses. You can do the math in terms of what the sales are and you’re

[1:25:57] math in terms of what the sales are and you’re supporting. But that’s okay.

[1:26:00] sales are and you’re supporting. But that’s okay. Is that correct? Is that what

[1:26:01] supporting. But that’s okay. Is that correct? Is that what this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people

[1:26:03] Is that correct? Is that what this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people say no, I don’t want to do

[1:26:04] this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people say no, I don’t want to do that. 3 people say yes, your

[1:26:05] say no, I don’t want to do that. 3 people say yes, your elected officials. We elect a

[1:26:09] that. 3 people say yes, your elected officials. We elect a summer getting re-elected

[1:26:09] elected officials. We elect a summer getting re-elected summer. Not when you’re Jones.

[1:26:10] summer getting re-elected summer. Not when you’re Jones. Turns come up. to understand

[1:26:13] summer. Not when you’re Jones. Turns come up. to understand that you’re gonna support. Now

[1:26:13] Turns come up. to understand that you’re gonna support. Now the opponent of this. And say,

[1:26:16] that you’re gonna support. Now the opponent of this. And say, you know what, we can finance

[1:26:18] the opponent of this. And say, you know what, we can finance it, but we’re going to let him

[1:26:20] you know what, we can finance it, but we’re going to let him finances because, yes, the

[1:26:20] it, but we’re going to let him finances because, yes, the pockets. But you know what? I

[1:26:21] finances because, yes, the pockets. But you know what? I agree with that. That decision

[1:26:22] pockets. But you know what? I agree with that. That decision was wrong. The people spoken.

[1:26:24] agree with that. That decision was wrong. The people spoken. We were here 502, years ago.

[1:26:26] was wrong. The people spoken. We were here 502, years ago. What changed a gate. 3 houses,

[1:26:29] We were here 502, years ago. What changed a gate. 3 houses, 5 houses. What changed? How

[1:26:33] What changed a gate. 3 houses, 5 houses. What changed? How much more do we need to go

[1:26:33] 5 houses. What changed? How much more do we need to go through? We’ve spent tons of

[1:26:34] much more do we need to go through? We’ve spent tons of money. Where we could have

[1:26:36] through? We’ve spent tons of money. Where we could have been beautifying our

[1:26:37] money. Where we could have been beautifying our community. The people that are

[1:26:39] been beautifying our community. The people that are here that are speaking against

[1:26:40] community. The people that are here that are speaking against the understand. I don’t

[1:26:44] here that are speaking against the understand. I don’t understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t

[1:26:45] the understand. I don’t understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t understand. I don’t I don’t

[1:26:46] understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t understand. I don’t I don’t get for the price of one

[1:26:47] understand. I don’t I don’t get for the price of one house. With 7.50, that the

[1:26:52] get for the price of one house. With 7.50, that the lots sold for the 22250,000.

[1:26:53] house. With 7.50, that the lots sold for the 22250,000. Is that right? That’s what

[1:26:56] lots sold for the 22250,000. Is that right? That’s what that’s I think. That’s what

[1:26:57] Is that right? That’s what that’s I think. That’s what the public record is. Right.

[1:26:58] that’s I think. That’s what the public record is. Right. 150,000 for 220 acres. And

[1:27:01] the public record is. Right. 150,000 for 220 acres. And we’re going to let this guy

[1:27:02] 150,000 for 220 acres. And we’re going to let this guy come in and buy them. What, 3,

[1:27:03] we’re going to let this guy come in and buy them. What, 3, $4,000, an acre. And then

[1:27:06] come in and buy them. What, 3, $4,000, an acre. And then build houses and bring all the

[1:27:08] $4,000, an acre. And then build houses and bring all the infrastructure and mind. You

[1:27:09] build houses and bring all the infrastructure and mind. You were talking about residents

[1:27:10] infrastructure and mind. You were talking about residents that are in their final

[1:27:12] were talking about residents that are in their final stages, right? The last part

[1:27:13] that are in their final stages, right? The last part of their life. They worked

[1:27:13] stages, right? The last part of their life. They worked their whole life. They want to

[1:27:14] of their life. They worked their whole life. They want to retire peace and not with

[1:27:18] their whole life. They want to retire peace and not with construction trucks for 80

[1:27:18] retire peace and not with construction trucks for 80 houses. For 80 houses on a

[1:27:22] construction trucks for 80 houses. For 80 houses on a one-lane road that goes each

[1:27:23] houses. For 80 houses on a one-lane road that goes each way who’s been on Pine Ridge

[1:27:24] one-lane road that goes each way who’s been on Pine Ridge Boulevard. One lane each way

[1:27:26] way who’s been on Pine Ridge Boulevard. One lane each way Lk one lane each way you’re

[1:27:29] Boulevard. One lane each way Lk one lane each way you’re going to introduce 80 houses,

[1:27:30] Lk one lane each way you’re going to introduce 80 houses, infrastructure. Take out

[1:27:32] going to introduce 80 houses, infrastructure. Take out trees, take out really. We’re

[1:27:36] infrastructure. Take out trees, take out really. We’re at the point now with this

[1:27:38] trees, take out really. We’re at the point now with this board says, yes, we’re not

[1:27:39] at the point now with this board says, yes, we’re not gonna put our money there

[1:27:39] board says, yes, we’re not gonna put our money there because, you know, my guys

[1:27:40] gonna put our money there because, you know, my guys might get upset, but I’m going

[1:27:43] because, you know, my guys might get upset, but I’m going to sit down and go on the same

[1:27:43] might get upset, but I’m going to sit down and go on the same side. I’m really at a loss.

[1:27:48] to sit down and go on the same side. I’m really at a loss. I’m really at a loss, but I’m

[1:27:48] side. I’m really at a loss. I’m really at a loss, but I’m not sure house to frame this.

[1:27:50] I’m really at a loss, but I’m not sure house to frame this. I think we’ve spoken from as a

[1:27:51] not sure house to frame this. I think we’ve spoken from as a community and I think going

[1:27:53] I think we’ve spoken from as a community and I think going forward. You’ll have your

[1:27:55] community and I think going forward. You’ll have your conscience to do with thank

[1:27:56] forward. You’ll have your conscience to do with thank you. Thank U next speaker.

[1:28:02] conscience to do with thank you. Thank U next speaker. I’ve heard smoke.

[1:28:04] you. Thank U next speaker. I’ve heard smoke. >> Kevin Thank you listening.

[1:28:12] I’ve heard smoke. >> Kevin Thank you listening. But I do have to make a couple

[1:28:13] >> Kevin Thank you listening. But I do have to make a couple quick points. The president of

[1:28:17] But I do have to make a couple quick points. The president of our current president of our

[1:28:17] quick points. The president of our current president of our board got up here and and

[1:28:21] our current president of our board got up here and and contradicted what I said or

[1:28:21] board got up here and and contradicted what I said or challenge what I said about

[1:28:23] contradicted what I said or challenge what I said about 20%. Less than 20% of the

[1:28:25] challenge what I said about 20%. Less than 20% of the vote. He said 33% of that may

[1:28:29] 20%. Less than 20% of the vote. He said 33% of that may have voted in our community,

[1:28:30] vote. He said 33% of that may have voted in our community, but they only one slightly

[1:28:32] have voted in our community, but they only one slightly over half of that. That’s why

[1:28:33] but they only one slightly over half of that. That’s why I say, well, south of 20% of

[1:28:34] over half of that. That’s why I say, well, south of 20% of our population have this board

[1:28:39] I say, well, south of 20% of our population have this board in places. It is today and

[1:28:39] our population have this board in places. It is today and making all this fuss. I find

[1:28:43] in places. It is today and making all this fuss. I find it. On your behalf. Utterly

[1:28:47] making all this fuss. I find it. On your behalf. Utterly offensive. That. People want

[1:28:50] it. On your behalf. Utterly offensive. That. People want to get up here and say. Almost

[1:28:58] offensive. That. People want to get up here and say. Almost threatening comments about

[1:29:01] to get up here and say. Almost threatening comments about your elections going forward

[1:29:01] threatening comments about your elections going forward and who’s going to support you

[1:29:02] your elections going forward and who’s going to support you and how much of a

[1:29:04] and who’s going to support you and how much of a >> community support we have.

[1:29:07] and how much of a >> community support we have. And I just I just find that

[1:29:08] >> community support we have. And I just I just find that totally offensive. And I’m

[1:29:10] And I just I just find that totally offensive. And I’m sorry that you have to hear

[1:29:11] totally offensive. And I’m sorry that you have to hear those kind of comments from

[1:29:12] sorry that you have to hear those kind of comments from our community quiet. people

[1:29:17] those kind of comments from our community quiet. people can vote the way their they

[1:29:17] our community quiet. people can vote the way their they want to vote again. It’s not

[1:29:22] can vote the way their they want to vote again. It’s not for me to ask you questions.

[1:29:25] want to vote again. It’s not for me to ask you questions. But one of the things that

[1:29:25] for me to ask you questions. But one of the things that keeps popping in my mind is

[1:29:26] But one of the things that keeps popping in my mind is that this judge is decision

[1:29:28] keeps popping in my mind is that this judge is decision was based on dri. And my

[1:29:33] that this judge is decision was based on dri. And my understanding from talking Joe

[1:29:34] was based on dri. And my understanding from talking Joe and several times of your

[1:29:36] understanding from talking Joe and several times of your staff that this property is

[1:29:37] and several times of your staff that this property is not at the R I a little

[1:29:41] staff that this property is not at the R I a little confused by that. Again, I’m

[1:29:42] not at the R I a little confused by that. Again, I’m not ask you a question, but

[1:29:42] confused by that. Again, I’m not ask you a question, but that might be some fuel for a

[1:29:47] not ask you a question, but that might be some fuel for a repeal of this decision

[1:29:50] that might be some fuel for a repeal of this decision because of the foundation of

[1:29:52] repeal of this decision because of the foundation of the decision might be loose

[1:29:52] because of the foundation of the decision might be loose ground I do want to say that

[1:29:57] the decision might be loose ground I do want to say that Green church here, not pro

[1:29:58] ground I do want to say that Green church here, not pro development. Smart

[1:30:03] Green church here, not pro development. Smart development. This golf courses

[1:30:04] development. Smart development. This golf courses failed 8 times. People keep

[1:30:05] development. This golf courses failed 8 times. People keep saying we got to have a golf

[1:30:06] failed 8 times. People keep saying we got to have a golf course. this is part of the

[1:30:07] saying we got to have a golf course. this is part of the community and all this stuff.

[1:30:08] course. this is part of the community and all this stuff. It’s failed. 8 times and our

[1:30:12] community and all this stuff. It’s failed. 8 times and our our board and their supporters

[1:30:13] It’s failed. 8 times and our our board and their supporters have been saying for over a

[1:30:16] our board and their supporters have been saying for over a year and a half, were we don’t

[1:30:18] have been saying for over a year and a half, were we don’t want to buy a golf course. We

[1:30:19] year and a half, were we don’t want to buy a golf course. We don’t want to ownership and a

[1:30:20] want to buy a golf course. We don’t want to ownership and a golf course. Weve got

[1:30:22] don’t want to ownership and a golf course. Weve got investors that want to own and

[1:30:23] golf course. Weve got investors that want to own and operate a golf course. Well,

[1:30:25] investors that want to own and operate a golf course. Well, come to find out at the last

[1:30:27] operate a golf course. Well, come to find out at the last meeting we now we got to have

[1:30:28] come to find out at the last meeting we now we got to have a majority interest in this

[1:30:29] meeting we now we got to have a majority interest in this golf course is a community

[1:30:31] a majority interest in this golf course is a community because this great golf

[1:30:32] golf course is a community because this great golf course, it’s going to be so

[1:30:33] because this great golf course, it’s going to be so successful may fail. And then

[1:30:35] course, it’s going to be so successful may fail. And then we got to hold the property.

[1:30:38] successful may fail. And then we got to hold the property. Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And

[1:30:40] we got to hold the property. Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And I just hope that you vote in

[1:30:44] Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And I just hope that you vote in conjunction with your legal

[1:30:45] I just hope that you vote in conjunction with your legal advice on this. Thank you.

[1:30:46] conjunction with your legal advice on this. Thank you. Thank you. Next, speaker.

[1:30:52] advice on this. Thank you. Thank you. Next, speaker. >> Excuse me, sir.

[1:30:54] Thank you. Next, speaker. >> Excuse me, sir. >> So their own eyes somehow

[1:30:55] >> Excuse me, sir. >> So their own eyes somehow we

[1:30:59] >> So their own eyes somehow we >> PJ off-camera, Citrus

[1:31:02] we >> PJ off-camera, Citrus County. I really, truly do not

[1:31:03] >> PJ off-camera, Citrus County. I really, truly do not want to be standing at this

[1:31:03] County. I really, truly do not want to be standing at this podium right now. I didn’t

[1:31:06] want to be standing at this podium right now. I didn’t come here to speak. I came

[1:31:07] podium right now. I didn’t come here to speak. I came here to support we fellow

[1:31:10] come here to speak. I came here to support we fellow community members and Pine

[1:31:11] here to support we fellow community members and Pine Ridge who I respect greatly

[1:31:11] community members and Pine Ridge who I respect greatly for the most part. And very

[1:31:15] Ridge who I respect greatly for the most part. And very much saddened that you all

[1:31:16] for the most part. And very much saddened that you all have chosen. To partner up

[1:31:19] much saddened that you all have chosen. To partner up with an out of town developer.

[1:31:24] have chosen. To partner up with an out of town developer. Who has proven already that he

[1:31:25] with an out of town developer. Who has proven already that he is not working in the

[1:31:27] Who has proven already that he is not working in the community’s best interest. We

[1:31:28] is not working in the community’s best interest. We can look at Crystal Oaks. We

[1:31:29] community’s best interest. We can look at Crystal Oaks. We can look at what he’s done

[1:31:31] can look at Crystal Oaks. We can look at what he’s done with that property that you

[1:31:31] can look at what he’s done with that property that you have approved for development.

[1:31:35] with that property that you have approved for development. His attorney has done things

[1:31:37] have approved for development. His attorney has done things that shouldn’t have been done.

[1:31:38] His attorney has done things that shouldn’t have been done. One of you actually tried to

[1:31:39] that shouldn’t have been done. One of you actually tried to shake him down last week. I’m

[1:31:41] One of you actually tried to shake him down last week. I’m not sure that you should be

[1:31:42] shake him down last week. I’m not sure that you should be allowed to vote because of

[1:31:45] not sure that you should be allowed to vote because of your comments about NIMBYism

[1:31:46] allowed to vote because of your comments about NIMBYism and your happiness to support

[1:31:48] your comments about NIMBYism and your happiness to support everything that Dixon Mr. Bats

[1:31:48] and your happiness to support everything that Dixon Mr. Bats will do. I think it’s

[1:31:52] everything that Dixon Mr. Bats will do. I think it’s inappropriate and I think you

[1:31:52] will do. I think it’s inappropriate and I think you are very wrong. I have heard

[1:31:58] inappropriate and I think you are very wrong. I have heard numerous numerous comments

[1:32:01] are very wrong. I have heard numerous numerous comments that Mr. Canard is spent an

[1:32:02] numerous numerous comments that Mr. Canard is spent an awful lot of private time with

[1:32:03] that Mr. Canard is spent an awful lot of private time with Mister Dix and he’s very

[1:32:04] awful lot of private time with Mister Dix and he’s very friendly. And I’ve also heard.

[1:32:09] Mister Dix and he’s very friendly. And I’ve also heard. They miss base who’s trying to

[1:32:10] friendly. And I’ve also heard. They miss base who’s trying to burn down the whole county on

[1:32:11] They miss base who’s trying to burn down the whole county on her way out because she’s

[1:32:12] burn down the whole county on her way out because she’s angry that the judge went

[1:32:14] her way out because she’s angry that the judge went against arrested the voters

[1:32:15] angry that the judge went against arrested the voters that she’s family to Mr.

[1:32:15] against arrested the voters that she’s family to Mr. Decks. I think she must be

[1:32:21] that she’s family to Mr. Decks. I think she must be recused from voting on this

[1:32:23] Decks. I think she must be recused from voting on this issue. She has very evident

[1:32:24] recused from voting on this issue. She has very evident that just fire full were not

[1:32:26] issue. She has very evident that just fire full were not saying rumors that we don’t

[1:32:29] that just fire full were not saying rumors that we don’t for sure issue not related to

[1:32:31] saying rumors that we don’t for sure issue not related to Mister Dix through the Lamb

[1:32:31] for sure issue not related to Mister Dix through the Lamb family. Well, I can ask that

[1:32:38] Mister Dix through the Lamb family. Well, I can ask that place. Okay. So I would

[1:32:41] family. Well, I can ask that place. Okay. So I would request that she recused

[1:32:42] place. Okay. So I would request that she recused herself from voting on this

[1:32:43] request that she recused herself from voting on this today. Thank you for your

[1:32:47] herself from voting on this today. Thank you for your comments next. Speaker. Just

[1:32:59] today. Thank you for your comments next. Speaker. Just state your name again, drew

[1:33:00] comments next. Speaker. Just state your name again, drew from clip Taos Ski. I do live

[1:33:01] state your name again, drew from clip Taos Ski. I do live in Pine Ridge just hearing a

[1:33:04] from clip Taos Ski. I do live in Pine Ridge just hearing a lot of emotions here, hearing

[1:33:06] in Pine Ridge just hearing a lot of emotions here, hearing a lot of parading hearing a

[1:33:09] lot of emotions here, hearing a lot of parading hearing a lot of Arab anger and a lot of

[1:33:10] a lot of parading hearing a lot of Arab anger and a lot of disrespect. Kind of just

[1:33:13] lot of Arab anger and a lot of disrespect. Kind of just wanted to give a little bit of

[1:33:13] disrespect. Kind of just wanted to give a little bit of respect to you all because you

[1:33:15] wanted to give a little bit of respect to you all because you do serve the community. We are

[1:33:18] respect to you all because you do serve the community. We are a republic. Some people forget

[1:33:20] do serve the community. We are a republic. Some people forget that we are a nation of laws.

[1:33:23] a republic. Some people forget that we are a nation of laws. Most people forget that

[1:33:23] that we are a nation of laws. Most people forget that especially on the road. I just

[1:33:28] Most people forget that especially on the road. I just want to remind you, as I said

[1:33:31] especially on the road. I just want to remind you, as I said before, dude, to do your due

[1:33:32] want to remind you, as I said before, dude, to do your due diligence, which you are. And

[1:33:34] before, dude, to do your due diligence, which you are. And you asked a lawyer, you got

[1:33:35] diligence, which you are. And you asked a lawyer, you got the legal opinion. I already

[1:33:39] you asked a lawyer, you got the legal opinion. I already told you I’m not for one way

[1:33:40] the legal opinion. I already told you I’m not for one way or the for trying to bring out

[1:33:44] told you I’m not for one way or the for trying to bring out bring about some type of

[1:33:44] or the for trying to bring out bring about some type of resolution, some type of

[1:33:48] bring about some type of resolution, some type of finality to this nonsense that

[1:33:50] resolution, some type of finality to this nonsense that has been going on for over 5

[1:33:51] finality to this nonsense that has been going on for over 5 years. I’ve been there during

[1:33:53] has been going on for over 5 years. I’ve been there during the process, not living there,

[1:33:54] years. I’ve been there during the process, not living there, but building a home. And I

[1:33:55] the process, not living there, but building a home. And I have watched this nonsense

[1:33:56] but building a home. And I have watched this nonsense going on.

[1:34:00] have watched this nonsense going on. >> I realize there’s a process

[1:34:01] going on. >> I realize there’s a process you’re following it. You must

[1:34:02] >> I realize there’s a process you’re following it. You must follow that process. That’s

[1:34:05] you’re following it. You must follow that process. That’s your job.

[1:34:05] follow that process. That’s your job. >> You will follow it legally.

[1:34:06] your job. >> You will follow it legally. You will follow the law. You

[1:34:07] >> You will follow it legally. You will follow the law. You would do what the law states

[1:34:08] You will follow the law. You would do what the law states you’ll do your due diligence

[1:34:11] would do what the law states you’ll do your due diligence and I agree with Mr. Canard

[1:34:12] you’ll do your due diligence and I agree with Mr. Canard that I don’t believe the judge

[1:34:15] and I agree with Mr. Canard that I don’t believe the judge got it right. And you say that

[1:34:18] that I don’t believe the judge got it right. And you say that the majority people here seem

[1:34:21] got it right. And you say that the majority people here seem agree with the judge, but you

[1:34:23] the majority people here seem agree with the judge, but you have the noisy majority here.

[1:34:27] agree with the judge, but you have the noisy majority here. And that you can tell that and

[1:34:29] have the noisy majority here. And that you can tell that and the disrespectful majority and

[1:34:30] And that you can tell that and the disrespectful majority and a lot of ways when they don’t

[1:34:30] the disrespectful majority and a lot of ways when they don’t seem to get their way. Again.

[1:34:33] a lot of ways when they don’t seem to get their way. Again. I don’t care which way it

[1:34:34] seem to get their way. Again. I don’t care which way it goes. I just want to see the

[1:34:36] I don’t care which way it goes. I just want to see the law followed. Do your due

[1:34:38] goes. I just want to see the law followed. Do your due diligence, make sure this was

[1:34:39] law followed. Do your due diligence, make sure this was right. I don’t believe it was

[1:34:41] diligence, make sure this was right. I don’t believe it was quashed as Mr. Canard said in

[1:34:45] right. I don’t believe it was quashed as Mr. Canard said in the legal sense of the way and

[1:34:46] quashed as Mr. Canard said in the legal sense of the way and it could cause problems from

[1:34:47] the legal sense of the way and it could cause problems from the past and in the future.

[1:34:49] it could cause problems from the past and in the future. And as I said, it’s just

[1:34:51] the past and in the future. And as I said, it’s just something that needs to be

[1:34:55] And as I said, it’s just something that needs to be restated rerun. You should be

[1:34:56] something that needs to be restated rerun. You should be able to do this without legal

[1:35:00] restated rerun. You should be able to do this without legal cost. If it’s a procedural

[1:35:00] able to do this without legal cost. If it’s a procedural problem. And you just correct

[1:35:04] cost. If it’s a procedural problem. And you just correct rectify the procedural

[1:35:07] problem. And you just correct rectify the procedural problem. You resubmit it or

[1:35:09] rectify the procedural problem. You resubmit it or you correct legal jargon. You

[1:35:11] problem. You resubmit it or you correct legal jargon. You probably heard they had to

[1:35:12] you correct legal jargon. You probably heard they had to restate the. What’s going to

[1:35:17] probably heard they had to restate the. What’s going to the voting for the the

[1:35:18] restate the. What’s going to the voting for the the property taxes. They had to

[1:35:19] the voting for the the property taxes. They had to rewrite that because the judge

[1:35:20] property taxes. They had to rewrite that because the judge said it was misleading. So

[1:35:24] rewrite that because the judge said it was misleading. So lets rewrite this. So it’s not

[1:35:25] said it was misleading. So lets rewrite this. So it’s not misleading one way or the

[1:35:26] lets rewrite this. So it’s not misleading one way or the other satisfy the law

[1:35:26] misleading one way or the other satisfy the law satisfied the people so that

[1:35:28] other satisfy the law satisfied the people so that there isn’t this

[1:35:29] satisfied the people so that there isn’t this argumentative. I commanded

[1:35:33] there isn’t this argumentative. I commanded process here that’s going on

[1:35:35] argumentative. I commanded process here that’s going on behind me that you have to

[1:35:36] process here that’s going on behind me that you have to listen to and B accused and

[1:35:40] behind me that you have to listen to and B accused and fingers pointed at. That’s not

[1:35:40] listen to and B accused and fingers pointed at. That’s not the way we do things. We’re

[1:35:44] fingers pointed at. That’s not the way we do things. We’re nation of laws. We respect

[1:35:45] the way we do things. We’re nation of laws. We respect that. We follow that. We

[1:35:46] nation of laws. We respect that. We follow that. We respect you.

[1:35:48] that. We follow that. We respect you. >> Next, speaker.

[1:35:58] respect you. >> Next, speaker. >> Iran was I spoke earlier.

[1:35:59] >> Next, speaker. >> Iran was I spoke earlier. You 3 or 5.

[1:36:04] >> Iran was I spoke earlier. You 3 or 5. >> We can say 5, but I

[1:36:04] You 3 or 5. >> We can say 5, but I probably use it all. I just

[1:36:06] >> We can say 5, but I probably use it all. I just wanted to talk about the

[1:36:08] probably use it all. I just wanted to talk about the motion that’s currently on on

[1:36:11] wanted to talk about the motion that’s currently on on the table was completely

[1:36:12] motion that’s currently on on the table was completely unexpected. Coming into this.

[1:36:16] the table was completely unexpected. Coming into this. >> Meeting here today, Andrews

[1:36:18] unexpected. Coming into this. >> Meeting here today, Andrews never talked about it was

[1:36:20] >> Meeting here today, Andrews never talked about it was French. I’m getting the

[1:36:23] never talked about it was French. I’m getting the understanding that there was

[1:36:24] French. I’m getting the understanding that there was some type of correspondents.

[1:36:27] understanding that there was some type of correspondents. That was given to the county

[1:36:29] some type of correspondents. That was given to the county from the applicants attorney.

[1:36:32] That was given to the county from the applicants attorney. If that’s correct. before

[1:36:35] from the applicants attorney. If that’s correct. before things are voted on, the

[1:36:38] If that’s correct. before things are voted on, the community has a chance to

[1:36:38] things are voted on, the community has a chance to voice an opinion and I think

[1:36:43] community has a chance to voice an opinion and I think we should in that letter. I

[1:36:44] voice an opinion and I think we should in that letter. I think we should know exactly

[1:36:45] we should in that letter. I think we should know exactly what the details of what Mr

[1:36:50] think we should know exactly what the details of what Mr Canard a commissioner can arch

[1:36:51] what the details of what Mr Canard a commissioner can arch about spoke about. We have no

[1:36:51] Canard a commissioner can arch about spoke about. We have no idea. What the deal you’re

[1:36:56] about spoke about. We have no idea. What the deal you’re voting on with the applicants

[1:36:59] idea. What the deal you’re voting on with the applicants attorney. To me that seems

[1:37:00] voting on with the applicants attorney. To me that seems like a conflict of interest

[1:37:03] attorney. To me that seems like a conflict of interest right across the top. Okay. We

[1:37:07] like a conflict of interest right across the top. Okay. We elected you to represent We

[1:37:09] right across the top. Okay. We elected you to represent We don’t elect you to Join in

[1:37:13] elected you to represent We don’t elect you to Join in hitch up with the developer on

[1:37:15] don’t elect you to Join in hitch up with the developer on an application that was found

[1:37:18] hitch up with the developer on an application that was found judgment not ordered you’re

[1:37:22] an application that was found judgment not ordered you’re not you’re not treating us

[1:37:23] judgment not ordered you’re not you’re not treating us fairly. Were here responding

[1:37:24] not you’re not treating us fairly. Were here responding to something that we haven’t

[1:37:26] fairly. Were here responding to something that we haven’t been given any knowledge of. I

[1:37:28] to something that we haven’t been given any knowledge of. I think that before this vote

[1:37:32] been given any knowledge of. I think that before this vote goes through. I think that

[1:37:34] think that before this vote goes through. I think that whatever that correspondence

[1:37:35] goes through. I think that whatever that correspondence was should be entered into the

[1:37:37] whatever that correspondence was should be entered into the record. I think the public

[1:37:38] was should be entered into the record. I think the public should have full knowledge of

[1:37:39] record. I think the public should have full knowledge of what it is. You’re voting on

[1:37:41] should have full knowledge of what it is. You’re voting on before you voting right now.

[1:37:42] what it is. You’re voting on before you voting right now. This is a a last-minute thing

[1:37:45] before you voting right now. This is a a last-minute thing that none of us have been made

[1:37:48] This is a a last-minute thing that none of us have been made aware of. And I don’t think

[1:37:49] that none of us have been made aware of. And I don’t think you’re being fair to the

[1:37:52] aware of. And I don’t think you’re being fair to the people elected you to

[1:37:52] you’re being fair to the people elected you to represent us. Thank you. Thank

[1:37:54] people elected you to represent us. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:37:57] represent us. Thank you. Thank you. >> So before forget to say, if

[1:37:58] you. >> So before forget to say, if the board all got an e-mail

[1:38:00] >> So before forget to say, if the board all got an e-mail that commissioner said, I

[1:38:01] the board all got an e-mail that commissioner said, I never got it. I’m sure I would

[1:38:06] that commissioner said, I never got it. I’m sure I would be left off of that. But I

[1:38:07] never got it. I’m sure I would be left off of that. But I would also be interested

[1:38:10] be left off of that. But I would also be interested someone could for that to

[1:38:12] would also be interested someone could for that to mean, I’d like to see what

[1:38:12] someone could for that to mean, I’d like to see what that says. And with many of

[1:38:15] mean, I’d like to see what that says. And with many of you, I don’t know what it

[1:38:16] that says. And with many of you, I don’t know what it says.

[1:38:23] you, I don’t know what it says. >> I’m ready if you’re ready.

[1:38:24] says. >> I’m ready if you’re ready. All right. Tavares rage. Well,

[1:38:27] >> I’m ready if you’re ready. All right. Tavares rage. Well, this is a surprise. oppose

[1:38:31] All right. Tavares rage. Well, this is a surprise. oppose Kuraly curious if there is a

[1:38:32] this is a surprise. oppose Kuraly curious if there is a precedent for anything like

[1:38:32] Kuraly curious if there is a precedent for anything like this. Anywhere before where

[1:38:38] precedent for anything like this. Anywhere before where board County commissioners

[1:38:42] this. Anywhere before where board County commissioners Wood working tandem with a

[1:38:43] board County commissioners Wood working tandem with a developer. 2. I mean, I so

[1:38:47] Wood working tandem with a developer. 2. I mean, I so appreciate your surprise. And

[1:38:51] developer. 2. I mean, I so appreciate your surprise. And confusion. Also, I would just

[1:38:51] appreciate your surprise. And confusion. Also, I would just say that and it’s been a lot

[1:38:54] confusion. Also, I would just say that and it’s been a lot of hearsay expressed here and

[1:38:55] say that and it’s been a lot of hearsay expressed here and I hate that stuff. One of the

[1:38:58] of hearsay expressed here and I hate that stuff. One of the reasons in my previous

[1:38:59] I hate that stuff. One of the reasons in my previous comments. The Ldc, the

[1:39:04] reasons in my previous comments. The Ldc, the comprehensive plan need to

[1:39:05] comments. The Ldc, the comprehensive plan need to line up because that’s where

[1:39:06] comprehensive plan need to line up because that’s where all this c*** comes from. It’s

[1:39:09] line up because that’s where all this c*** comes from. It’s not clear it’s not well

[1:39:10] all this c*** comes from. It’s not clear it’s not well defined and therefore

[1:39:14] not clear it’s not well defined and therefore developers have wiggle room

[1:39:14] defined and therefore developers have wiggle room around the laws. And that’s

[1:39:15] developers have wiggle room around the laws. And that’s what’s happening here. I’m I

[1:39:23] around the laws. And that’s what’s happening here. I’m I do know. Yeah. See, this would

[1:39:24] what’s happening here. I’m I do know. Yeah. See, this would be hearsay. I won’t say it.

[1:39:26] do know. Yeah. See, this would be hearsay. I won’t say it. But I know that the developers

[1:39:28] be hearsay. I won’t say it. But I know that the developers are confident that this is

[1:39:29] But I know that the developers are confident that this is going was going to be voted

[1:39:30] are confident that this is going was going to be voted down. I know that knew that

[1:39:34] going was going to be voted down. I know that knew that coming in here because that

[1:39:34] down. I know that knew that coming in here because that they were confident. I was

[1:39:35] coming in here because that they were confident. I was hoping it wasn’t true. I would

[1:39:37] they were confident. I was hoping it wasn’t true. I would be interested how Commissioner

[1:39:44] hoping it wasn’t true. I would be interested how Commissioner Canard and and I can’t ask you

[1:39:45] be interested how Commissioner Canard and and I can’t ask you a question, do expect answer.

[1:39:47] Canard and and I can’t ask you a question, do expect answer. But you were really well

[1:39:50] a question, do expect answer. But you were really well prepared for direct comments

[1:39:53] But you were really well prepared for direct comments to me. this wasn’t very well

[1:39:54] prepared for direct comments to me. this wasn’t very well prepared statement about how

[1:39:55] to me. this wasn’t very well prepared statement about how he would counter this and that

[1:40:00] prepared statement about how he would counter this and that you don’t want to be

[1:40:00] he would counter this and that you don’t want to be suspicious, but it was really

[1:40:02] you don’t want to be suspicious, but it was really well prepared. it just it

[1:40:06] suspicious, but it was really well prepared. it just it makes me nervous. I hope that

[1:40:11] well prepared. it just it makes me nervous. I hope that If you follow through with

[1:40:13] makes me nervous. I hope that If you follow through with this that you’re you are

[1:40:13] If you follow through with this that you’re you are prepared for the consequences

[1:40:14] this that you’re you are prepared for the consequences because this is a big deal.

[1:40:17] prepared for the consequences because this is a big deal. This this will this will hit

[1:40:18] because this is a big deal. This this will this will hit the news more than more than

[1:40:19] This this will this will hit the news more than more than the Chronicle. I would think.

[1:40:21] the news more than more than the Chronicle. I would think. It’s a big deal. So anyway,

[1:40:23] the Chronicle. I would think. It’s a big deal. So anyway, thank you.

[1:40:32] It’s a big deal. So anyway, thank you. >> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One

[1:40:34] thank you. >> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One sector.

[1:40:35] >> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One sector. >> Can you respond? Can

[1:40:37] sector. >> Can you respond? Can photos? You can’t?

[1:40:48] >> Can you respond? Can photos? You can’t? >> emails. So Commissioner

[1:40:50] photos? You can’t? >> emails. So Commissioner Kerik has in the email that

[1:40:50] >> emails. So Commissioner Kerik has in the email that she feels it may be apartment.

[1:40:54] Kerik has in the email that she feels it may be apartment. I mean, that would be

[1:40:54] she feels it may be apartment. I mean, that would be information that I don’t have

[1:40:58] I mean, that would be information that I don’t have I don’t see resettled if he’s

[1:40:58] information that I don’t have I don’t see resettled if he’s in the back, but is Reese able

[1:41:02] I don’t see resettled if he’s in the back, but is Reese able to pull that from her email

[1:41:02] in the back, but is Reese able to pull that from her email and then? Give us companies

[1:41:05] to pull that from her email and then? Give us companies families. It came from Mister

[1:41:12] and then? Give us companies families. It came from Mister Battle today.

[1:41:15] families. It came from Mister Battle today. >> I understand it was copied

[1:41:16] Battle today. >> I understand it was copied to all of you.

[1:41:20] >> I understand it was copied to all of you. >> Maybe a came. I checked all

[1:41:21] to all of you. >> Maybe a came. I checked all my e-mails this morning, maybe

[1:41:21] >> Maybe a came. I checked all my e-mails this morning, maybe 11. 0, 7, would never say to

[1:41:24] my e-mails this morning, maybe 11. 0, 7, would never say to OK? great. Thank you.

[1:41:34] 11. 0, 7, would never say to OK? great. Thank you. >> It did everyone read this

[1:41:34] OK? great. Thank you. >> It did everyone read this e-mail.

[1:41:47] >> It did everyone read this e-mail. >> Forget the one taken. If

[1:41:48] e-mail. >> Forget the one taken. If you want to settle, have you

[1:41:49] >> Forget the one taken. If you want to settle, have you right back. Muslim. Maybe you

[1:42:01] you want to settle, have you right back. Muslim. Maybe you should read it. Quiet, please.

[1:42:20] right back. Muslim. Maybe you should read it. Quiet, please. Publisher that a copy gets to

[1:42:20] should read it. Quiet, please. Publisher that a copy gets to the clerk’s office. Make sure

[1:42:24] Publisher that a copy gets to the clerk’s office. Make sure copy gets to you. just you

[1:42:27] the clerk’s office. Make sure copy gets to you. just you want me to read this. Please.

[1:42:32] copy gets to you. just you want me to read this. Please. Muslim, Mr. Scott and all

[1:42:34] want me to read this. Please. Muslim, Mr. Scott and all following our recent

[1:42:35] Muslim, Mr. Scott and all following our recent discussions. And prior to

[1:42:35] following our recent discussions. And prior to today’s special meeting.

[1:42:37] discussions. And prior to today’s special meeting. >> I am writing on behalf of

[1:42:38] today’s special meeting. >> I am writing on behalf of Southern Oaks Property Group

[1:42:39] >> I am writing on behalf of Southern Oaks Property Group LLC to request the county

[1:42:42] Southern Oaks Property Group LLC to request the county commissions support of an

[1:42:44] LLC to request the county commissions support of an appeal of the recent order

[1:42:44] commissions support of an appeal of the recent order issued in the case referenced

[1:42:46] appeal of the recent order issued in the case referenced above because I’m unable to

[1:42:48] issued in the case referenced above because I’m unable to attend today’s special meeting

[1:42:49] above because I’m unable to attend today’s special meeting due to a prior engagement. I

[1:42:51] attend today’s special meeting due to a prior engagement. I have blind copy to each county

[1:42:52] due to a prior engagement. I have blind copy to each county commissioner on this email.

[1:42:55] have blind copy to each county commissioner on this email. With all due respect to our

[1:42:56] commissioner on this email. With all due respect to our circuit court, we

[1:42:58] With all due respect to our circuit court, we wholeheartedly disagree with

[1:42:58] circuit court, we wholeheartedly disagree with the outcome of the appeal and

[1:43:00] wholeheartedly disagree with the outcome of the appeal and the reasoning upon which it

[1:43:01] the outcome of the appeal and the reasoning upon which it was based. Which disregarded

[1:43:04] the reasoning upon which it was based. Which disregarded the plain text of the statute

[1:43:06] was based. Which disregarded the plain text of the statute and ignored the county’s

[1:43:07] the plain text of the statute and ignored the county’s constitutional and statutory

[1:43:08] and ignored the county’s constitutional and statutory authority to make was a

[1:43:09] constitutional and statutory authority to make was a judicial decisions based upon

[1:43:11] authority to make was a judicial decisions based upon its comprehensive plan and

[1:43:12] judicial decisions based upon its comprehensive plan and land development code. I will

[1:43:15] its comprehensive plan and land development code. I will leave it to Mr. Scott, to

[1:43:16] land development code. I will leave it to Mr. Scott, to further explain any

[1:43:18] leave it to Mr. Scott, to further explain any substantive issues. But on

[1:43:19] further explain any substantive issues. But on behalf of my client, I will

[1:43:20] substantive issues. But on behalf of my client, I will convey that we are proceeding

[1:43:21] behalf of my client, I will convey that we are proceeding with an appeal. We hope you

[1:43:24] convey that we are proceeding with an appeal. We hope you will join us in this. Excuse

[1:43:24] with an appeal. We hope you will join us in this. Excuse me. We hope you will join in

[1:43:27] will join us in this. Excuse me. We hope you will join in this effort. You are very well

[1:43:30] me. We hope you will join in this effort. You are very well represented by Mister Scott

[1:43:33] this effort. You are very well represented by Mister Scott and I encourage the county to

[1:43:35] represented by Mister Scott and I encourage the county to defendant’s position through a

[1:43:37] and I encourage the county to defendant’s position through a direct petition if, however,

[1:43:38] defendant’s position through a direct petition if, however, the cost of an appeal is a

[1:43:40] direct petition if, however, the cost of an appeal is a concern, then we welcome the

[1:43:42] the cost of an appeal is a concern, then we welcome the county to participate in our

[1:43:43] concern, then we welcome the county to participate in our appeal as a co petitioner. We

[1:43:48] county to participate in our appeal as a co petitioner. We are some we quiet, please.

[1:43:51] appeal as a co petitioner. We are some we quiet, please. >> Quiet, please.

[1:43:56] are some we quiet, please. >> Quiet, please. >> I really don’t want to

[1:43:57] >> Quiet, please. >> I really don’t want to remove anyone. I’ve never had

[1:43:58] >> I really don’t want to remove anyone. I’ve never had to do that, sir. Please just

[1:43:59] remove anyone. I’ve never had to do that, sir. Please just let Muslim read the rest of

[1:44:00] to do that, sir. Please just let Muslim read the rest of the EMA.

[1:44:03] let Muslim read the rest of the EMA. >> We are similarly situated

[1:44:04] the EMA. >> We are similarly situated in defending the validity of

[1:44:06] >> We are similarly situated in defending the validity of the commission’s actions and

[1:44:07] in defending the validity of the commission’s actions and more broadly the authority of

[1:44:08] the commission’s actions and more broadly the authority of the commission. In applying

[1:44:12] more broadly the authority of the commission. In applying its comprehensive plan and

[1:44:13] the commission. In applying its comprehensive plan and code and the rezoning of

[1:44:14] its comprehensive plan and code and the rezoning of certain properties through the

[1:44:16] code and the rezoning of certain properties through the put process. That’s if you

[1:44:18] certain properties through the put process. That’s if you deem it best. If if you deem

[1:44:19] put process. That’s if you deem it best. If if you deem it the best course of action

[1:44:22] deem it best. If if you deem it the best course of action than we believe it would be

[1:44:22] it the best course of action than we believe it would be appropriate for the county to

[1:44:23] than we believe it would be appropriate for the county to join in our petition to be

[1:44:27] appropriate for the county to join in our petition to be prepared by our council at my

[1:44:29] join in our petition to be prepared by our council at my clients expense. We are very

[1:44:31] prepared by our council at my clients expense. We are very excited to be working with

[1:44:31] clients expense. We are very excited to be working with palace and ridge of Buchanan

[1:44:33] excited to be working with palace and ridge of Buchanan Ingersoll and Rooney who is

[1:44:37] palace and ridge of Buchanan Ingersoll and Rooney who is board certified in appellate

[1:44:37] Ingersoll and Rooney who is board certified in appellate practice and whose resume

[1:44:39] board certified in appellate practice and whose resume experience and reputation

[1:44:40] practice and whose resume experience and reputation speak for themselves. You can

[1:44:44] experience and reputation speak for themselves. You can find more information about MS

[1:44:45] speak for themselves. You can find more information about MS and ridge here and he’s got a

[1:44:46] find more information about MS and ridge here and he’s got a link. Thank you in advance for

[1:44:48] and ridge here and he’s got a link. Thank you in advance for your consideration. Sincerely

[1:44:49] link. Thank you in advance for your consideration. Sincerely raw battle. Thank you.

[1:44:52] your consideration. Sincerely raw battle. Thank you. >> I not realize that that. I

[1:44:57] raw battle. Thank you. >> I not realize that that. I stand even further on my

[1:44:58] >> I not realize that that. I stand even further on my position that seems wrong on

[1:44:59] stand even further on my position that seems wrong on every level. When it’s time

[1:45:03] position that seems wrong on every level. When it’s time for the board members to talk,

[1:45:03] every level. When it’s time for the board members to talk, maybe we can get another

[1:45:05] for the board members to talk, maybe we can get another attorneys opinion on that.

[1:45:09] maybe we can get another attorneys opinion on that. >> me. Maybe that was just up

[1:45:13] attorneys opinion on that. >> me. Maybe that was just up >> Sorry about that. Thank you

[1:45:16] >> me. Maybe that was just up >> Sorry about that. Thank you for your nation. Answer that

[1:45:17] >> Sorry about that. Thank you for your nation. Answer that are with someone say anything.

[1:45:19] for your nation. Answer that are with someone say anything. But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8,

[1:45:20] are with someone say anything. But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8, 6 West Mustang Boulevard,

[1:45:21] But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8, 6 West Mustang Boulevard, Beverly Hills. And I just want

[1:45:22] 6 West Mustang Boulevard, Beverly Hills. And I just want to make a comment. If I

[1:45:26] Beverly Hills. And I just want to make a comment. If I understand correctly that

[1:45:26] to make a comment. If I understand correctly that offered that you just read,

[1:45:29] understand correctly that offered that you just read, does that mean that he’s doing

[1:45:30] offered that you just read, does that mean that he’s doing the cost of legal? And that

[1:45:34] does that mean that he’s doing the cost of legal? And that the county would not be paying

[1:45:34] the cost of legal? And that the county would not be paying legal fees. And if I

[1:45:39] the county would not be paying legal fees. And if I understand correctly date,

[1:45:40] legal fees. And if I understand correctly date, your legal counsel suggested

[1:45:41] understand correctly date, your legal counsel suggested that you appeal and now we

[1:45:43] your legal counsel suggested that you appeal and now we just thank to consider that

[1:45:46] that you appeal and now we just thank to consider that you both were sold on both

[1:45:47] just thank to consider that you both were sold on both sides from our our Pine Ridge.

[1:45:52] you both were sold on both sides from our our Pine Ridge. Equally. So that’s just how I

[1:45:54] sides from our our Pine Ridge. Equally. So that’s just how I see I would like you to

[1:45:55] Equally. So that’s just how I see I would like you to consider. Thank you. Thank

[1:45:55] see I would like you to consider. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker.

[1:46:06] consider. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker. >> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for

[1:46:08] you. Next, Speaker. >> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for 4, 1, 2 North deck would drive

[1:46:09] >> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for 4, 1, 2 North deck would drive Beverly Hills Pine Ridge.

[1:46:14] 4, 1, 2 North deck would drive Beverly Hills Pine Ridge. >> So I

[1:46:14] Beverly Hills Pine Ridge. >> So I >> would like to say that I’m

[1:46:15] >> So I >> would like to say that I’m not coming up here, too. Rally

[1:46:19] >> would like to say that I’m not coming up here, too. Rally votes for anyone here on the

[1:46:20] not coming up here, too. Rally votes for anyone here on the board nor rally against votes

[1:46:23] votes for anyone here on the board nor rally against votes for anyone here on the board.

[1:46:23] board nor rally against votes for anyone here on the board. I just think that that is. To

[1:46:26] for anyone here on the board. I just think that that is. To me that was threatening and

[1:46:28] I just think that that is. To me that was threatening and that’s just wrong. Anyway,

[1:46:31] me that was threatening and that’s just wrong. Anyway, that’s all I’m going to say

[1:46:33] that’s just wrong. Anyway, that’s all I’m going to say about that. It is also we have

[1:46:34] that’s all I’m going to say about that. It is also we have to keep focus on why we’re

[1:46:36] about that. It is also we have to keep focus on why we’re here and what the what you

[1:46:38] to keep focus on why we’re here and what the what you guys are actually ruling. The

[1:46:41] here and what the what you guys are actually ruling. The decision is whether the Citrus

[1:46:45] guys are actually ruling. The decision is whether the Citrus Court, circuit court has made

[1:46:46] decision is whether the Citrus Court, circuit court has made the wrong decision their vote.

[1:46:50] Court, circuit court has made the wrong decision their vote. And it is my understanding and

[1:46:51] the wrong decision their vote. And it is my understanding and we listened to Joanna could

[1:46:55] And it is my understanding and we listened to Joanna could tow at the last bocc meeting

[1:46:57] we listened to Joanna could tow at the last bocc meeting when we were here talking on

[1:46:58] tow at the last bocc meeting when we were here talking on this same topic, she had said

[1:47:01] when we were here talking on this same topic, she had said that this property, this golf

[1:47:03] this same topic, she had said that this property, this golf course property is not a dri

[1:47:07] that this property, this golf course property is not a dri and it was designated before

[1:47:11] course property is not a dri and it was designated before the dri I understand even was

[1:47:12] and it was designated before the dri I understand even was a thing. So. This ruling.

[1:47:17] the dri I understand even was a thing. So. This ruling. We’re talking about not

[1:47:18] a thing. So. This ruling. We’re talking about not spending more money from the

[1:47:21] We’re talking about not spending more money from the county. This ruling is going

[1:47:23] spending more money from the county. This ruling is going to have all of you spending

[1:47:24] county. This ruling is going to have all of you spending more of our county taxpayer

[1:47:26] to have all of you spending more of our county taxpayer dollars because you have to go

[1:47:27] more of our county taxpayer dollars because you have to go back in history and look at

[1:47:29] dollars because you have to go back in history and look at the decisions that have been

[1:47:31] back in history and look at the decisions that have been made. So any which way with

[1:47:35] the decisions that have been made. So any which way with their decision is nay favor or

[1:47:37] made. So any which way with their decision is nay favor or against there’s more money

[1:47:38] their decision is nay favor or against there’s more money that’s going to be spent in

[1:47:40] against there’s more money that’s going to be spent in the county as a result of this

[1:47:41] that’s going to be spent in the county as a result of this decision in the circuit court.

[1:47:46] the county as a result of this decision in the circuit court. in my opinion, I think we have

[1:47:48] decision in the circuit court. in my opinion, I think we have to continue and go forward

[1:47:50] in my opinion, I think we have to continue and go forward because it’s going to affect

[1:47:55] to continue and go forward because it’s going to affect future decisions. The Dri

[1:47:56] because it’s going to affect future decisions. The Dri decision, too, was taken

[1:47:57] future decisions. The Dri decision, too, was taken outside of the county in the

[1:48:00] decision, too, was taken outside of the county in the circuit court. It wasn’t made

[1:48:01] outside of the county in the circuit court. It wasn’t made in this county. So I don’t

[1:48:04] circuit court. It wasn’t made in this county. So I don’t know what happened there in

[1:48:05] in this county. So I don’t know what happened there in all due respect, manage I’m

[1:48:06] know what happened there in all due respect, manage I’m not a lawyer. Or a judge, they

[1:48:12] all due respect, manage I’m not a lawyer. Or a judge, they made a decision that’s going

[1:48:12] not a lawyer. Or a judge, they made a decision that’s going to affect everybody, including

[1:48:17] made a decision that’s going to affect everybody, including a residence and it’s not

[1:48:18] to affect everybody, including a residence and it’s not accurate as the attorney here

[1:48:18] a residence and it’s not accurate as the attorney here mentioning. Thank you.

[1:48:22] accurate as the attorney here mentioning. Thank you. >> Just next speaker, just to

[1:48:25] mentioning. Thank you. >> Just next speaker, just to reiterate that Madam Attorney,

[1:48:27] >> Just next speaker, just to reiterate that Madam Attorney, this doesn’t affect any past

[1:48:27] reiterate that Madam Attorney, this doesn’t affect any past decisions because they don’t

[1:48:29] this doesn’t affect any past decisions because they don’t be past their 30 Correct? We

[1:48:32] decisions because they don’t be past their 30 Correct? We don’t believe it’ll affect any

[1:48:33] be past their 30 Correct? We don’t believe it’ll affect any past decisions, but it is.

[1:48:36] don’t believe it’ll affect any past decisions, but it is. Within your purview to take

[1:48:37] past decisions, but it is. Within your purview to take remedial action, too. Make

[1:48:38] Within your purview to take remedial action, too. Make sure that it doesn’t affect

[1:48:39] remedial action, too. Make sure that it doesn’t affect any. Dale Well, a circle in

[1:48:50] sure that it doesn’t affect any. Dale Well, a circle in Pine Ridge. This just strikes

[1:48:51] any. Dale Well, a circle in Pine Ridge. This just strikes me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I

[1:48:52] Pine Ridge. This just strikes me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I disagree with you that.

[1:48:55] me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I disagree with you that. >> I feel like.

[1:49:00] disagree with you that. >> I feel like. >> Your.

[1:49:01] >> I feel like. >> Your. >> Using developer money to

[1:49:02] >> Your. >> Using developer money to fight your own. Constituents.

[1:49:05] >> Using developer money to fight your own. Constituents. This just strikes me as That’s

[1:49:06] fight your own. Constituents. This just strikes me as That’s just plain fun.

[1:49:09] This just strikes me as That’s just plain fun. >> Thank u next speaker. Last

[1:49:13] just plain fun. >> Thank u next speaker. Last chance for Speaker.

[1:49:31] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am

[1:49:32] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am more upset than they’ve ever

[1:49:34] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am more upset than they’ve ever been. And your name Robyn or

[1:49:36] more upset than they’ve ever been. And your name Robyn or Landy. And I’m speaking for

[1:49:36] been. And your name Robyn or Landy. And I’m speaking for myself 3 minutes. I’m going to

[1:49:39] Landy. And I’m speaking for myself 3 minutes. I’m going to read because it’s inexcusable

[1:49:45] myself 3 minutes. I’m going to read because it’s inexcusable that a last-minute email

[1:49:47] read because it’s inexcusable that a last-minute email documents submitted by a

[1:49:48] that a last-minute email documents submitted by a developer’s attorney is again

[1:49:48] documents submitted by a developer’s attorney is again attempting to drive the

[1:49:50] developer’s attorney is again attempting to drive the outcome. The Citrus County

[1:49:52] attempting to drive the outcome. The Citrus County public meeting and

[1:49:54] outcome. The Citrus County public meeting and disenfranchise the public at

[1:49:55] public meeting and disenfranchise the public at residential investment in both

[1:49:56] disenfranchise the public at residential investment in both property and our local

[1:49:57] residential investment in both property and our local government. Find a different

[1:50:00] property and our local government. Find a different way to cure the implications

[1:50:01] government. Find a different way to cure the implications of the circuit court decision.

[1:50:04] way to cure the implications of the circuit court decision. Joining with the developer’s

[1:50:05] of the circuit court decision. Joining with the developer’s attorney to save county money

[1:50:08] Joining with the developer’s attorney to save county money against the majority request

[1:50:09] attorney to save county money against the majority request of the citizens present today

[1:50:11] against the majority request of the citizens present today and outstanding. Listening to

[1:50:12] of the citizens present today and outstanding. Listening to this meeting, we’ll put a

[1:50:14] and outstanding. Listening to this meeting, we’ll put a stink on public trust to this

[1:50:15] this meeting, we’ll put a stink on public trust to this poor. That’s not going to go

[1:50:15] stink on public trust to this poor. That’s not going to go away. Taking the time to

[1:50:19] poor. That’s not going to go away. Taking the time to decide the legality and cures

[1:50:21] away. Taking the time to decide the legality and cures for the dri to put language

[1:50:22] decide the legality and cures for the dri to put language will delay pending, made away

[1:50:26] for the dri to put language will delay pending, made away pending developments. But

[1:50:27] will delay pending, made away pending developments. But there has to be a better

[1:50:28] pending developments. But there has to be a better approach and one that will

[1:50:29] there has to be a better approach and one that will allow you to create additional

[1:50:32] approach and one that will allow you to create additional guardrails to amend outdated,

[1:50:33] allow you to create additional guardrails to amend outdated, 40 year-old process is to

[1:50:34] guardrails to amend outdated, 40 year-old process is to better serve our communities

[1:50:36] 40 year-old process is to better serve our communities in the contemporary era. And

[1:50:40] better serve our communities in the contemporary era. And better service instead of

[1:50:41] in the contemporary era. And better service instead of passively following a major

[1:50:44] better service instead of passively following a major developers, attorneys lead

[1:50:47] passively following a major developers, attorneys lead take the lead, our yourselves

[1:50:49] developers, attorneys lead take the lead, our yourselves to protect the nature coast

[1:50:51] take the lead, our yourselves to protect the nature coast against unwise, rapid

[1:50:52] to protect the nature coast against unwise, rapid development that fails to

[1:50:54] against unwise, rapid development that fails to represent the stated interests

[1:50:55] development that fails to represent the stated interests of the residents before you

[1:50:56] represent the stated interests of the residents before you today. And the long term

[1:50:59] of the residents before you today. And the long term conservation in quality of

[1:51:00] today. And the long term conservation in quality of life, interest of Citrus

[1:51:02] conservation in quality of life, interest of Citrus County. I know you guys know a

[1:51:04] life, interest of Citrus County. I know you guys know a lot more about this and the

[1:51:04] County. I know you guys know a lot more about this and the majority of us too. But please

[1:51:09] lot more about this and the majority of us too. But please represent us and what’s best.

[1:51:11] majority of us too. But please represent us and what’s best. You’ve got other alternatives,

[1:51:12] represent us and what’s best. You’ve got other alternatives, unsure to address this. And as

[1:51:15] You’ve got other alternatives, unsure to address this. And as a taxpayer, I don’t mind

[1:51:15] unsure to address this. And as a taxpayer, I don’t mind paying for separate counsel. I

[1:51:17] a taxpayer, I don’t mind paying for separate counsel. I know that that’s a big issue.

[1:51:19] paying for separate counsel. I know that that’s a big issue. An amendment 3 is out there

[1:51:20] know that that’s a big issue. An amendment 3 is out there terrorizing everyone. But

[1:51:23] An amendment 3 is out there terrorizing everyone. But there’s got to be a better way

[1:51:24] terrorizing everyone. But there’s got to be a better way working with the developer,

[1:51:26] there’s got to be a better way working with the developer, especially someone that’s in

[1:51:26] working with the developer, especially someone that’s in such a huge impact in this

[1:51:27] especially someone that’s in such a huge impact in this county unless. Unless they

[1:51:31] such a huge impact in this county unless. Unless they change their tune 180 degrees.

[1:51:35] county unless. Unless they change their tune 180 degrees. That’s not the way to go

[1:51:35] change their tune 180 degrees. That’s not the way to go dollars. So thank you very

[1:51:36] That’s not the way to go dollars. So thank you very much. glad I’m not in your

[1:51:36] dollars. So thank you very much. glad I’m not in your seat. Thank you.

[1:51:39] much. glad I’m not in your seat. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. Last chance

[1:51:43] seat. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. Last chance for Speaker.

[1:51:48] >> Next, Speaker. Last chance for Speaker. >> Closing the open to the

[1:51:49] for Speaker. >> Closing the open to the public portion know. I I want

[1:51:56] >> Closing the open to the public portion know. I I want to ask you to what kind legal

[1:52:00] public portion know. I I want to ask you to what kind legal ramifications comes against

[1:52:01] to ask you to what kind legal ramifications comes against the county, if where citing? I

[1:52:06] ramifications comes against the county, if where citing? I mean, obviously, even if

[1:52:07] the county, if where citing? I mean, obviously, even if there’s no legal

[1:52:08] mean, obviously, even if there’s no legal ramifications, I agree Mr or

[1:52:11] there’s no legal ramifications, I agree Mr or landed. There will be a stink

[1:52:12] ramifications, I agree Mr or landed. There will be a stink on this board that that they

[1:52:13] landed. There will be a stink on this board that that they will not get off. But legally,

[1:52:15] on this board that that they will not get off. But legally, what issues to see. Having the

[1:52:24] will not get off. But legally, what issues to see. Having the developer, the other party pay

[1:52:26] what issues to see. Having the developer, the other party pay for the legal fees for the

[1:52:27] developer, the other party pay for the legal fees for the county? I think what? I think

[1:52:32] for the legal fees for the county? I think what? I think what is being suggested by way

[1:52:33] county? I think what? I think what is being suggested by way of that e-mail, if I can offer

[1:52:35] what is being suggested by way of that e-mail, if I can offer my.

[1:52:36] of that e-mail, if I can offer my. >> My interpretation because

[1:52:36] my. >> My interpretation because it’s not uncommon. Picture

[1:52:39] >> My interpretation because it’s not uncommon. Picture that you may see in cases like

[1:52:40] it’s not uncommon. Picture that you may see in cases like this. It’s it’s not in the

[1:52:45] that you may see in cases like this. It’s it’s not in the vein of let us handle and

[1:52:48] this. It’s it’s not in the vein of let us handle and control the county’s actions

[1:52:48] vein of let us handle and control the county’s actions with regard to this appeal.

[1:52:51] control the county’s actions with regard to this appeal. The the overture in the offer

[1:52:52] with regard to this appeal. The the overture in the offer is that. Southern Oaks is

[1:52:55] The the overture in the offer is that. Southern Oaks is saying they are pursuing an

[1:52:57] is that. Southern Oaks is saying they are pursuing an appeal and they will file

[1:52:58] saying they are pursuing an appeal and they will file there. Their brief, their

[1:53:01] appeal and they will file there. Their brief, their petition. What they are

[1:53:04] there. Their brief, their petition. What they are suggesting or inviting is for

[1:53:05] petition. What they are suggesting or inviting is for the county to file what we

[1:53:08] suggesting or inviting is for the county to file what we call notice of joined are or

[1:53:11] the county to file what we call notice of joined are or some kind of document and uses

[1:53:13] call notice of joined are or some kind of document and uses that word. It’s a term of art.

[1:53:15] some kind of document and uses that word. It’s a term of art. Joined are which we see a lot

[1:53:17] that word. It’s a term of art. Joined are which we see a lot in litigation where one party

[1:53:19] Joined are which we see a lot in litigation where one party will file a document with the

[1:53:21] in litigation where one party will file a document with the court and will say we are

[1:53:24] will file a document with the court and will say we are adopting the same arguments.

[1:53:25] court and will say we are adopting the same arguments. Is this other party? We’re

[1:53:26] adopting the same arguments. Is this other party? We’re just not going to. Prepare an

[1:53:29] Is this other party? We’re just not going to. Prepare an entire document that basically

[1:53:30] just not going to. Prepare an entire document that basically says the exact same argument.

[1:53:33] entire document that basically says the exact same argument. We’re just going to file this

[1:53:34] says the exact same argument. We’re just going to file this one-page joined or it’s it’s

[1:53:38] We’re just going to file this one-page joined or it’s it’s in the vein of a document that

[1:53:39] one-page joined or it’s it’s in the vein of a document that says we agree with the legal

[1:53:39] in the vein of a document that says we agree with the legal position and we submit we

[1:53:42] says we agree with the legal position and we submit we submit that position as our

[1:53:44] position and we submit we submit that position as our own position. So I think

[1:53:45] submit that position as our own position. So I think that’s probably not now the

[1:53:48] own position. So I think that’s probably not now the question is yours as to

[1:53:49] that’s probably not now the question is yours as to whether to do that. But I do

[1:53:52] question is yours as to whether to do that. But I do think it’s fair to frame the

[1:53:53] whether to do that. But I do think it’s fair to frame the offer that’s made in the

[1:53:55] think it’s fair to frame the offer that’s made in the email. To the extent it might

[1:53:56] offer that’s made in the email. To the extent it might be red one way or the other.

[1:54:00] email. To the extent it might be red one way or the other. But I think it’s it’s

[1:54:02] be red one way or the other. But I think it’s it’s suggesting a a classic notice

[1:54:03] But I think it’s it’s suggesting a a classic notice of joined in their brief if

[1:54:04] suggesting a a classic notice of joined in their brief if and when filed. Thank you.

[1:54:08] of joined in their brief if and when filed. Thank you. >> Commissioner yeah.

[1:54:12] and when filed. Thank you. >> Commissioner yeah. >> I was its peak. But since

[1:54:13] >> Commissioner yeah. >> I was its peak. But since Mister landed that I I feel

[1:54:15] >> I was its peak. But since Mister landed that I I feel like I need to respond. Thank

[1:54:18] Mister landed that I I feel like I need to respond. Thank you for understanding how

[1:54:21] like I need to respond. Thank you for understanding how complex the job this job is

[1:54:22] you for understanding how complex the job this job is about, how many different

[1:54:24] complex the job this job is about, how many different things and Mr. Scott, perhaps

[1:54:26] about, how many different things and Mr. Scott, perhaps the one sentence Lehman

[1:54:29] things and Mr. Scott, perhaps the one sentence Lehman version of what you said

[1:54:31] the one sentence Lehman version of what you said earlier was legal precedent

[1:54:32] version of what you said earlier was legal precedent that imperils home rule

[1:54:33] earlier was legal precedent that imperils home rule because the the state keeps

[1:54:37] that imperils home rule because the the state keeps telling us what we can do and

[1:54:38] because the the state keeps telling us what we can do and can’t do and they don’t have

[1:54:39] telling us what we can do and can’t do and they don’t have boots on the ground. For all

[1:54:44] can’t do and they don’t have boots on the ground. For all those who cited the tag line

[1:54:46] boots on the ground. For all those who cited the tag line nature in community Thrive.

[1:54:47] those who cited the tag line nature in community Thrive. Thank you. I actually wrote

[1:54:47] nature in community Thrive. Thank you. I actually wrote that. And I do live by that. I

[1:54:53] Thank you. I actually wrote that. And I do live by that. I lived in Pine Ridge for over 4

[1:54:53] that. And I do live by that. I lived in Pine Ridge for over 4 years. And those of you who

[1:54:57] lived in Pine Ridge for over 4 years. And those of you who feel betrayed by me. I’m

[1:54:59] years. And those of you who feel betrayed by me. I’m pretty disappointed in you,

[1:55:00] feel betrayed by me. I’m pretty disappointed in you, too. Because you had 80 homes

[1:55:04] pretty disappointed in you, too. Because you had 80 homes on a golf course. And I

[1:55:05] too. Because you had 80 homes on a golf course. And I believe my math said you could

[1:55:06] on a golf course. And I believe my math said you could bought it for about 10,000

[1:55:09] believe my math said you could bought it for about 10,000 acre and then have a nature

[1:55:11] bought it for about 10,000 acre and then have a nature preserve in your backyard.

[1:55:11] acre and then have a nature preserve in your backyard. That’s what I really wanted

[1:55:12] preserve in your backyard. That’s what I really wanted for. Pine Ridge. And so at the

[1:55:15] That’s what I really wanted for. Pine Ridge. And so at the end of that court, okay. 501.

[1:55:19] for. Pine Ridge. And so at the end of that court, okay. 501. I said you got your chance go

[1:55:19] end of that court, okay. 501. I said you got your chance go do it. And you didn’t do it.

[1:55:24] I said you got your chance go do it. And you didn’t do it. And we can’t just let that sit

[1:55:25] do it. And you didn’t do it. And we can’t just let that sit and sit and sit and sit and

[1:55:27] And we can’t just let that sit and sit and sit and sit and set. So I’ve said enough, I’m

[1:55:31] and sit and sit and sit and set. So I’ve said enough, I’m I’m sorry that I disappointed

[1:55:31] set. So I’ve said enough, I’m I’m sorry that I disappointed some of you and doesn’t really

[1:55:35] I’m sorry that I disappointed some of you and doesn’t really matter. I may or may not run

[1:55:36] some of you and doesn’t really matter. I may or may not run again. And I’m not taking any

[1:55:36] matter. I may or may not run again. And I’m not taking any debts money. I’ve already said

[1:55:38] again. And I’m not taking any debts money. I’ve already said that over and over again. So

[1:55:40] debts money. I’ve already said that over and over again. So thank you. I appreciate the

[1:55:41] that over and over again. So thank you. I appreciate the honor of serving has a look at

[1:55:48] thank you. I appreciate the honor of serving has a look at this.

[1:55:49] honor of serving has a look at this. >> If the rest of you want to

[1:55:49] this. >> If the rest of you want to do an appeal. We do it for the

[1:55:52] >> If the rest of you want to do an appeal. We do it for the county on our own because that

[1:55:54] do an appeal. We do it for the county on our own because that we are the county. Okay. And

[1:55:58] county on our own because that we are the county. Okay. And that that’s how I feel, OK, we

[1:56:00] we are the county. Okay. And that that’s how I feel, OK, we pay as a county and we move

[1:56:02] that that’s how I feel, OK, we pay as a county and we move forward as a county. We need

[1:56:06] pay as a county and we move forward as a county. We need to, in the meantime decide to

[1:56:09] forward as a county. We need to, in the meantime decide to draw up new Dri amendment

[1:56:10] to, in the meantime decide to draw up new Dri amendment procedures. For amending Dr

[1:56:13] draw up new Dri amendment procedures. For amending Dr Eyes in the future. And that’s

[1:56:15] procedures. For amending Dr Eyes in the future. And that’s one of the biggest things we

[1:56:16] Eyes in the future. And that’s one of the biggest things we need to do. We have say yet we

[1:56:21] one of the biggest things we need to do. We have say yet we are going to write a new dri

[1:56:22] need to do. We have say yet we are going to write a new dri amendment procedure. For

[1:56:26] are going to write a new dri amendment procedure. For future. Now, I know it doesn’t

[1:56:27] amendment procedure. For future. Now, I know it doesn’t affect just one year because

[1:56:28] future. Now, I know it doesn’t affect just one year because it doesn’t grandfathered in,

[1:56:30] affect just one year because it doesn’t grandfathered in, but I think that’s what we

[1:56:32] it doesn’t grandfathered in, but I think that’s what we should be doing today. And I

[1:56:36] but I think that’s what we should be doing today. And I really think that this is a

[1:56:36] should be doing today. And I really think that this is a conflict of interest from

[1:56:38] really think that this is a conflict of interest from bunch of reasons. But at this

[1:56:41] conflict of interest from bunch of reasons. But at this point, I’m just going to sit

[1:56:42] bunch of reasons. But at this point, I’m just going to sit back and wait for the vote.

[1:56:44] point, I’m just going to sit back and wait for the vote. And humans.

[1:56:50] back and wait for the vote. And humans. >> Over the past, I would say

[1:56:51] And humans. >> Over the past, I would say probably week or so. There

[1:56:52] >> Over the past, I would say probably week or so. There have been. Not a lot of few

[1:56:56] probably week or so. There have been. Not a lot of few conversations with our

[1:56:58] have been. Not a lot of few conversations with our attorney as those considering

[1:57:01] conversations with our attorney as those considering what to do here. An appeal on

[1:57:03] attorney as those considering what to do here. An appeal on our own. Was costly. I totally

[1:57:10] what to do here. An appeal on our own. Was costly. I totally disagree with the ruling of

[1:57:10] our own. Was costly. I totally disagree with the ruling of the judge. But did not want

[1:57:15] disagree with the ruling of the judge. But did not want county taxpayers to bear the

[1:57:16] the judge. But did not want county taxpayers to bear the burden of that. And so. As

[1:57:20] county taxpayers to bear the burden of that. And so. As Muslim and I talked about it

[1:57:22] burden of that. And so. As Muslim and I talked about it at the, you know, the options

[1:57:26] Muslim and I talked about it at the, you know, the options presented were you can accept

[1:57:27] at the, you know, the options presented were you can accept the ruling and disagree with

[1:57:29] presented were you can accept the ruling and disagree with that but accept it. You can

[1:57:32] the ruling and disagree with that but accept it. You can appeal it or if the applicant

[1:57:34] that but accept it. You can appeal it or if the applicant does file an appeal, we could

[1:57:38] appeal it or if the applicant does file an appeal, we could do, you know, go as a co

[1:57:41] does file an appeal, we could do, you know, go as a co petitioner or she also

[1:57:43] do, you know, go as a co petitioner or she also expressed, though, some of the

[1:57:44] petitioner or she also expressed, though, some of the Dale also used essentially

[1:57:46] expressed, though, some of the Dale also used essentially saying. We agree with their

[1:57:49] Dale also used essentially saying. We agree with their position, whatever that paper

[1:57:50] saying. We agree with their position, whatever that paper in legally XYZ. And so coming

[1:57:55] position, whatever that paper in legally XYZ. And so coming into today, those were the

[1:57:56] in legally XYZ. And so coming into today, those were the things that I was considering

[1:57:59] into today, those were the things that I was considering disagreeing with the with the

[1:58:01] things that I was considering disagreeing with the with the decision. I would like to see

[1:58:03] disagreeing with the with the decision. I would like to see an appeal. I don’t want to pay

[1:58:03] decision. I would like to see an appeal. I don’t want to pay a dollar fort, but if the

[1:58:06] an appeal. I don’t want to pay a dollar fort, but if the applicant is going appeal,

[1:58:08] a dollar fort, but if the applicant is going appeal, then I would agree with their

[1:58:08] applicant is going appeal, then I would agree with their position. Anyone

[1:58:13] then I would agree with their position. Anyone >> Commissioner Ms.

[1:58:19] position. Anyone >> Commissioner Ms. >> I’m probably the outlier. I

[1:58:20] >> Commissioner Ms. >> I’m probably the outlier. I disagree with the the ruling,

[1:58:24] >> I’m probably the outlier. I disagree with the the ruling, but I do believe that we

[1:58:25] disagree with the the ruling, but I do believe that we should defend our own

[1:58:26] but I do believe that we should defend our own ordinance and our own process.

[1:58:30] should defend our own ordinance and our own process. Standing independent. I don’t

[1:58:31] ordinance and our own process. Standing independent. I don’t really want to spend the

[1:58:31] Standing independent. I don’t really want to spend the money. Can you tell us

[1:58:32] really want to spend the money. Can you tell us approximately what you think

[1:58:33] money. Can you tell us approximately what you think this would cost? We have ask

[1:58:37] approximately what you think this would cost? We have ask Mr. Scott. If I just

[1:58:42] this would cost? We have ask Mr. Scott. If I just >> off the top of my head 15

[1:58:42] Mr. Scott. If I just >> off the top of my head 15 to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe

[1:58:46] >> off the top of my head 15 to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe more. Part of it will be

[1:58:46] to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe more. Part of it will be dependent upon the various

[1:58:50] more. Part of it will be dependent upon the various arguments made by the parties.

[1:58:51] dependent upon the various arguments made by the parties. Any motions filed, whether we

[1:58:51] arguments made by the parties. Any motions filed, whether we have oral argument. But if I

[1:58:54] Any motions filed, whether we have oral argument. But if I truly back of the talk my head

[1:58:56] have oral argument. But if I truly back of the talk my head 15 to 20.

[1:58:59] truly back of the talk my head 15 to 20. >> I feel like we’re in a

[1:59:02] 15 to 20. >> I feel like we’re in a no-win situation. If we stand

[1:59:05] >> I feel like we’re in a no-win situation. If we stand alone and we just say we

[1:59:06] no-win situation. If we stand alone and we just say we disagree with it and we do

[1:59:06] alone and we just say we disagree with it and we do nothing. Dick’s Development or

[1:59:16] disagree with it and we do nothing. Dick’s Development or whoever they are southern.

[1:59:17] nothing. Dick’s Development or whoever they are southern. They go ahead and they file

[1:59:17] whoever they are southern. They go ahead and they file their motion. And we do

[1:59:21] They go ahead and they file their motion. And we do nothing. We’re going to be

[1:59:22] their motion. And we do nothing. We’re going to be criticized for that. And if

[1:59:23] nothing. We’re going to be criticized for that. And if they went because we didn’t

[1:59:25] criticized for that. And if they went because we didn’t defend our position, if we

[1:59:26] they went because we didn’t defend our position, if we spend the money, we’re going

[1:59:27] defend our position, if we spend the money, we’re going to be criticized because we’re

[1:59:28] spend the money, we’re going to be criticized because we’re defending our position. I have

[1:59:29] to be criticized because we’re defending our position. I have no interest in.

[1:59:32] defending our position. I have no interest in. >> Being party. To their suit.

[1:59:36] no interest in. >> Being party. To their suit. I want to stay and stand

[1:59:37] >> Being party. To their suit. I want to stay and stand independent So that would that

[1:59:39] I want to stay and stand independent So that would that would be where I would land.

[1:59:44] independent So that would that would be where I would land. Well, that’s not the motion at

[1:59:45] would be where I would land. Well, that’s not the motion at hand. So we’ll see what

[1:59:45] Well, that’s not the motion at hand. So we’ll see what happens with this one.

[1:59:47] hand. So we’ll see what happens with this one. >> Anyone else. But I call it.

[1:59:50] happens with this one. >> Anyone else. But I call it. >> All those in favor. Aye.

[1:59:53] >> Anyone else. But I call it. >> All those in favor. Aye. Any opposed motion fails 3, 2,

[2:00:02] >> All those in favor. Aye. Any opposed motion fails 3, 2, >> I’d like to make a motion

[2:00:03] Any opposed motion fails 3, 2, >> I’d like to make a motion that we do the appeal on our

[2:00:05] >> I’d like to make a motion that we do the appeal on our own and not spend more than

[2:00:06] that we do the appeal on our own and not spend more than $30,000.

[2:00:14] own and not spend more than $30,000. >> Motion by Commissioner

[2:00:16] $30,000. >> Motion by Commissioner Kerik second by commissioner

[2:00:16] >> Motion by Commissioner Kerik second by commissioner pays any public comment.

[2:00:28] Kerik second by commissioner pays any public comment. >> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge.

[2:00:31] pays any public comment. >> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge. Okay. Just so understand what

[2:00:32] >> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge. Okay. Just so understand what you’re talking about. I’m a

[2:00:35] Okay. Just so understand what you’re talking about. I’m a taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I

[2:00:38] you’re talking about. I’m a taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I have to pay for both sides of

[2:00:39] taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I have to pay for both sides of this argument. Which is pretty

[2:00:43] have to pay for both sides of this argument. Which is pretty darn ridiculous. Because you

[2:00:47] this argument. Which is pretty darn ridiculous. Because you won’t go back and fix whatever

[2:00:51] darn ridiculous. Because you won’t go back and fix whatever law or rulli ordinances. You

[2:00:52] won’t go back and fix whatever law or rulli ordinances. You all have. Why don’t you do

[2:00:54] law or rulli ordinances. You all have. Why don’t you do that? First? Then all of this

[2:00:58] all have. Why don’t you do that? First? Then all of this will be okay. It doesn’t make

[2:01:02] that? First? Then all of this will be okay. It doesn’t make any sense people really back

[2:01:03] will be okay. It doesn’t make any sense people really back and forth, OK? So we go to the

[2:01:06] any sense people really back and forth, OK? So we go to the appellate court, then what do

[2:01:07] and forth, OK? So we go to the appellate court, then what do we do? Go to the state Supreme

[2:01:08] appellate court, then what do we do? Go to the state Supreme Court? I mean, really how far

[2:01:09] we do? Go to the state Supreme Court? I mean, really how far we’re going to take it? Pine

[2:01:12] Court? I mean, really how far we’re going to take it? Pine Ridge is already showing you

[2:01:13] we’re going to take it? Pine Ridge is already showing you that we’re not backing down.

[2:01:17] Ridge is already showing you that we’re not backing down. OK, we the people, the

[2:01:17] that we’re not backing down. OK, we the people, the majority of us are not backing

[2:01:21] OK, we the people, the majority of us are not backing down. We will take this all

[2:01:22] majority of us are not backing down. We will take this all the way through or if we have

[2:01:22] down. We will take this all the way through or if we have to. Okay. But you need to

[2:01:29] the way through or if we have to. Okay. But you need to understand that me the

[2:01:30] to. Okay. But you need to understand that me the taxpayer has foot the bill

[2:01:31] understand that me the taxpayer has foot the bill both sides. Thank you. Thank

[2:01:32] taxpayer has foot the bill both sides. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:01:34] both sides. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. Last chance

[2:01:39] you. >> Next, Speaker. Last chance for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d

[2:01:50] >> Next, Speaker. Last chance for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d like to offer 3rd choice.

[2:01:55] for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d like to offer 3rd choice. >> Giving You have already

[2:01:59] like to offer 3rd choice. >> Giving You have already said that you’d like to reject

[2:02:00] >> Giving You have already said that you’d like to reject it. And then. Instead of

[2:02:03] said that you’d like to reject it. And then. Instead of fighting it. Rectify it. I

[2:02:06] it. And then. Instead of fighting it. Rectify it. I keep saying that if you would

[2:02:09] fighting it. Rectify it. I keep saying that if you would correct the deficiency rectify

[2:02:10] keep saying that if you would correct the deficiency rectify for any future. Already said

[2:02:13] correct the deficiency rectify for any future. Already said you’re don’t think it’ll

[2:02:14] for any future. Already said you’re don’t think it’ll affect the past ones wrecked

[2:02:15] you’re don’t think it’ll affect the past ones wrecked the fight for the future. Make

[2:02:18] affect the past ones wrecked the fight for the future. Make that your stand.

[2:02:21] the fight for the future. Make that your stand. >> You already know that the

[2:02:24] that your stand. >> You already know that the the one who proposed all this

[2:02:26] >> You already know that the the one who proposed all this is going to fight it. Let them

[2:02:27] the one who proposed all this is going to fight it. Let them go ahead and do that. If they

[2:02:29] is going to fight it. Let them go ahead and do that. If they come up with a positive

[2:02:30] go ahead and do that. If they come up with a positive ruling, you can go with that

[2:02:31] come up with a positive ruling, you can go with that and he can refile. It may take

[2:02:35] ruling, you can go with that and he can refile. It may take a little longer for him, but

[2:02:37] and he can refile. It may take a little longer for him, but you can save face that way, at

[2:02:38] a little longer for him, but you can save face that way, at least just rectify the dri

[2:02:41] you can save face that way, at least just rectify the dri process. If that’s what it

[2:02:42] least just rectify the dri process. If that’s what it needs it, I can hear that.

[2:02:44] process. If that’s what it needs it, I can hear that. There isn’t really a process.

[2:02:47] needs it, I can hear that. There isn’t really a process. That this was moved. heard all

[2:02:51] There isn’t really a process. That this was moved. heard all of that. You may even go into

[2:02:52] That this was moved. heard all of that. You may even go into it and find the dri process

[2:02:54] of that. You may even go into it and find the dri process was moved all as well. But how

[2:02:56] it and find the dri process was moved all as well. But how do you get rid of a judge’s

[2:02:56] was moved all as well. But how do you get rid of a judge’s squash? That would be done by

[2:02:59] do you get rid of a judge’s squash? That would be done by the person who proposed. And

[2:03:02] squash? That would be done by the person who proposed. And you don’t have to spend any

[2:03:02] the person who proposed. And you don’t have to spend any money. As I keep saying

[2:03:05] you don’t have to spend any money. As I keep saying procedure, rectify it and move

[2:03:07] money. As I keep saying procedure, rectify it and move on. That should just be your

[2:03:10] procedure, rectify it and move on. That should just be your internal stuff. You don’t

[2:03:11] on. That should just be your internal stuff. You don’t always have to use legal. You

[2:03:12] internal stuff. You don’t always have to use legal. You may have to Usually go to file

[2:03:13] always have to use legal. You may have to Usually go to file the new paperwork. But that’s

[2:03:14] may have to Usually go to file the new paperwork. But that’s typical. Just my opinion of

[2:03:17] the new paperwork. But that’s typical. Just my opinion of and another possibility. Thank

[2:03:21] typical. Just my opinion of and another possibility. Thank you.

[2:03:21] and another possibility. Thank you. >> It was my first

[2:03:22] you. >> It was my first possibility. Remember, it

[2:03:23] >> It was my first possibility. Remember, it failed. started. Next.

[2:03:25] possibility. Remember, it failed. started. Next. Speaker. Last chance for

[2:03:28] failed. started. Next. Speaker. Last chance for Speaker.

[2:03:43] >> Greetings once again. Kerry

[2:03:44] >> Greetings once again. Kerry Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve

[2:03:48] >> Greetings once again. Kerry Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve heard this correctly. There’s

[2:03:49] Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve heard this correctly. There’s no exposure to past cases. So

[2:03:54] heard this correctly. There’s no exposure to past cases. So no one can come back

[2:03:58] no exposure to past cases. So no one can come back >> litigate against past

[2:03:58] no one can come back >> litigate against past approvals and developments

[2:03:59] >> litigate against past approvals and developments that are complete because 30

[2:04:01] approvals and developments that are complete because 30 days has passed. What we’re

[2:04:06] that are complete because 30 days has passed. What we’re facing here is soon as you put

[2:04:07] days has passed. What we’re facing here is soon as you put Citrus County commissioners or

[2:04:07] facing here is soon as you put Citrus County commissioners or the the county and a lawsuit

[2:04:12] Citrus County commissioners or the the county and a lawsuit with Dick’s. What have you

[2:04:12] the the county and a lawsuit with Dick’s. What have you done? You’ve created a bond

[2:04:16] with Dick’s. What have you done? You’ve created a bond that says absolutely all the

[2:04:18] done? You’ve created a bond that says absolutely all the jargon out there is we have a

[2:04:21] that says absolutely all the jargon out there is we have a board that works for decks.

[2:04:23] jargon out there is we have a board that works for decks. What for? It’s over. Let it

[2:04:27] board that works for decks. What for? It’s over. Let it go. Let picks to us things

[2:04:27] What for? It’s over. Let it go. Let picks to us things are. He said he’s going to do

[2:04:28] go. Let picks to us things are. He said he’s going to do it. But keep us clean. Keep

[2:04:32] are. He said he’s going to do it. But keep us clean. Keep your reputations intact. Don’t

[2:04:35] it. But keep us clean. Keep your reputations intact. Don’t join this because it’s a

[2:04:36] your reputations intact. Don’t join this because it’s a failed attempt and it will

[2:04:38] join this because it’s a failed attempt and it will ruin the reputation of our

[2:04:40] failed attempt and it will ruin the reputation of our county and our board.

[2:04:49] ruin the reputation of our county and our board. >> Happening next, speaker

[2:04:50] county and our board. >> Happening next, speaker last chance for Speaker.

[2:04:53] >> Happening next, speaker last chance for Speaker. >> closing the public portion

[2:04:56] last chance for Speaker. >> closing the public portion Commissioner Kerik, I hope you

[2:04:58] >> closing the public portion Commissioner Kerik, I hope you do. You vote against your own

[2:05:00] Commissioner Kerik, I hope you do. You vote against your own motion. There’s no way I’m

[2:05:02] do. You vote against your own motion. There’s no way I’m voting for spending $30,000 or

[2:05:02] motion. There’s no way I’m voting for spending $30,000 or less. Taxpayer money to fight

[2:05:08] voting for spending $30,000 or less. Taxpayer money to fight the people. So I hope he would

[2:05:09] less. Taxpayer money to fight the people. So I hope he would reconsider that. Commissioner

[2:05:12] the people. So I hope he would reconsider that. Commissioner mayor, I okay.

[2:05:14] reconsider that. Commissioner mayor, I okay. >> The only reason I came up

[2:05:15] mayor, I okay. >> The only reason I came up with this is because we need

[2:05:18] >> The only reason I came up with this is because we need to do something. I want to go

[2:05:18] with this is because we need to do something. I want to go back to the original that we

[2:05:20] to do something. I want to go back to the original that we don’t do anything. But it

[2:05:24] back to the original that we don’t do anything. But it didn’t pass. I really do not

[2:05:26] don’t do anything. But it didn’t pass. I really do not want to tied with developer.

[2:05:32] didn’t pass. I really do not want to tied with developer. And if our attorney over

[2:05:32] want to tied with developer. And if our attorney over numbers Dale says it, it’s

[2:05:35] And if our attorney over numbers Dale says it, it’s going to be around 15 to

[2:05:35] numbers Dale says it, it’s going to be around 15 to $20,000. It’s a lot of money,

[2:05:38] going to be around 15 to $20,000. It’s a lot of money, but it’s not a lot of money.

[2:05:40] $20,000. It’s a lot of money, but it’s not a lot of money. Most people have a car. car

[2:05:45] but it’s not a lot of money. Most people have a car. car question a lot more than 15 to

[2:05:47] Most people have a car. car question a lot more than 15 to $20,000. So the thing is

[2:05:50] question a lot more than 15 to $20,000. So the thing is that’s where I’m coming from

[2:05:51] $20,000. So the thing is that’s where I’m coming from on looking. I want to spend

[2:05:51] that’s where I’m coming from on looking. I want to spend any money. If I have to. I

[2:05:56] on looking. I want to spend any money. If I have to. I withdraw my motion. Go back to

[2:05:57] any money. If I have to. I withdraw my motion. Go back to our first motion to begin

[2:05:58] withdraw my motion. Go back to our first motion to begin with, which was do nothing as

[2:06:01] our first motion to begin with, which was do nothing as get a 3 to vote. Because it’s

[2:06:05] with, which was do nothing as get a 3 to vote. Because it’s still the same meeting and I’m

[2:06:06] get a 3 to vote. Because it’s still the same meeting and I’m allowed to do that at this

[2:06:07] still the same meeting and I’m allowed to do that at this point. As far as I know,

[2:06:08] allowed to do that at this point. As far as I know, correct. gym and a journey. It

[2:06:11] point. As far as I know, correct. gym and a journey. It hasn’t been voted on yet. So

[2:06:13] correct. gym and a journey. It hasn’t been voted on yet. So you all can. Yeah, I could

[2:06:17] hasn’t been voted on yet. So you all can. Yeah, I could take this one back and then we

[2:06:19] you all can. Yeah, I could take this one back and then we be yours. As long as your

[2:06:19] take this one back and then we be yours. As long as your second takes or second back.

[2:06:20] be yours. As long as your second takes or second back. Okay. Because it at this

[2:06:25] second takes or second back. Okay. Because it at this point, I really don’t want to

[2:06:27] Okay. Because it at this point, I really don’t want to spend any money. And I really

[2:06:28] point, I really don’t want to spend any money. And I really don’t want to do this. But if

[2:06:30] spend any money. And I really don’t want to do this. But if that’s the only way we’re

[2:06:30] don’t want to do this. But if that’s the only way we’re going to do it. Commissioner,

[2:06:35] that’s the only way we’re going to do it. Commissioner, do you want to take back your

[2:06:36] going to do it. Commissioner, do you want to take back your second? I’ll take back. My

[2:06:36] do you want to take back your second? I’ll take back. My first go back to the first

[2:06:38] second? I’ll take back. My first go back to the first motion to not do anything at

[2:06:38] first go back to the first motion to not do anything at this point. And let the

[2:06:43] motion to not do anything at this point. And let the developer spend all his money

[2:06:43] this point. And let the developer spend all his money and we don’t spend anything. I

[2:06:47] developer spend all his money and we don’t spend anything. I want one clarification.

[2:06:49] and we don’t spend anything. I want one clarification. >> I

[2:06:54] want one clarification. >> I >> completely. Dismayed at the

[2:06:59] >> I >> completely. Dismayed at the fact that we’re said they were

[2:07:00] >> completely. Dismayed at the fact that we’re said they were having a special meeting. And

[2:07:06] fact that we’re said they were having a special meeting. And if councils things that we

[2:07:07] having a special meeting. And if councils things that we can. They disagree with this.

[2:07:11] if councils things that we can. They disagree with this. But if we just fix or code or

[2:07:13] can. They disagree with this. But if we just fix or code or ordinance that fixes

[2:07:14] But if we just fix or code or ordinance that fixes everything and we don’t have

[2:07:16] ordinance that fixes everything and we don’t have to participate. So why weren’t

[2:07:18] everything and we don’t have to participate. So why weren’t we communicated that before we

[2:07:19] to participate. So why weren’t we communicated that before we ever got into this special

[2:07:19] we communicated that before we ever got into this special meeting? Where I’m perplexed?

[2:07:28] ever got into this special meeting? Where I’m perplexed? Outrageous that we haven’t had

[2:07:31] meeting? Where I’m perplexed? Outrageous that we haven’t had those conversations and why we

[2:07:32] Outrageous that we haven’t had those conversations and why we ended up having a special

[2:07:33] those conversations and why we ended up having a special meeting. If this is where

[2:07:33] ended up having a special meeting. If this is where we’re at. So what you’re

[2:07:42] meeting. If this is where we’re at. So what you’re telling me from council is

[2:07:43] we’re at. So what you’re telling me from council is that. If we don’t join this or

[2:07:48] telling me from council is that. If we don’t join this or if we don’t file our own KSAT

[2:07:52] that. If we don’t join this or if we don’t file our own KSAT me, it doesn’t really mean

[2:07:53] if we don’t file our own KSAT me, it doesn’t really mean anything. It’s just that we’re

[2:07:53] me, it doesn’t really mean anything. It’s just that we’re doing it for the sake of

[2:07:54] anything. It’s just that we’re doing it for the sake of saying that we disagree with

[2:07:55] doing it for the sake of saying that we disagree with the judge’s order and all we

[2:07:58] saying that we disagree with the judge’s order and all we need to do is go back and fix

[2:08:00] the judge’s order and all we need to do is go back and fix our ordinance. Well, the

[2:08:03] need to do is go back and fix our ordinance. Well, the question of whether to

[2:08:06] our ordinance. Well, the question of whether to >> pursue an appeal and

[2:08:08] question of whether to >> pursue an appeal and whether take any action to

[2:08:08] >> pursue an appeal and whether take any action to modify or amend the ordinance.

[2:08:09] whether take any action to modify or amend the ordinance. There are separate questions

[2:08:12] modify or amend the ordinance. There are separate questions legally. You can you can do

[2:08:12] There are separate questions legally. You can you can do one. You can Both of you can

[2:08:15] legally. You can you can do one. You can Both of you can do neither. It is not uncommon

[2:08:16] one. You can Both of you can do neither. It is not uncommon in litigation situations. Even

[2:08:20] do neither. It is not uncommon in litigation situations. Even if let’s say we have prevailed

[2:08:20] in litigation situations. Even if let’s say we have prevailed with the circuit court in the

[2:08:21] if let’s say we have prevailed with the circuit court in the case were over, that you could

[2:08:24] with the circuit court in the case were over, that you could take a second look at any up

[2:08:25] case were over, that you could take a second look at any up like regulations and decide.

[2:08:28] take a second look at any up like regulations and decide. We want to tighten these up.

[2:08:30] like regulations and decide. We want to tighten these up. We want to change them up and

[2:08:30] We want to tighten these up. We want to change them up and make them bulletproof. We want

[2:08:31] We want to change them up and make them bulletproof. We want to make them read a different

[2:08:32] make them bulletproof. We want to make them read a different way. So that’s an option that

[2:08:36] to make them read a different way. So that’s an option that exists independent of moving

[2:08:37] way. So that’s an option that exists independent of moving through the litigation. So

[2:08:39] exists independent of moving through the litigation. So it’s not an either either or

[2:08:43] through the litigation. So it’s not an either either or situation. You can end. And

[2:08:44] it’s not an either either or situation. You can end. And you can see the appeal.

[2:08:47] situation. You can end. And you can see the appeal. >> And pursuing the appeal do

[2:08:47] you can see the appeal. >> And pursuing the appeal do for us. There may be

[2:08:54] >> And pursuing the appeal do for us. There may be questions. It is true that

[2:08:56] for us. There may be questions. It is true that parties had 30 days in the

[2:08:57] questions. It is true that parties had 30 days in the past to pursue Ritson search

[2:08:58] parties had 30 days in the past to pursue Ritson search your E with regard to past.

[2:09:01] past to pursue Ritson search your E with regard to past. Approvals. But there may be.

[2:09:04] your E with regard to past. Approvals. But there may be. The maybe ancillary legal

[2:09:08] Approvals. But there may be. The maybe ancillary legal ramifications with regard to

[2:09:09] The maybe ancillary legal ramifications with regard to past actions and rulings that

[2:09:10] ramifications with regard to past actions and rulings that this current order could

[2:09:12] past actions and rulings that this current order could possibly effect. Now, that’s

[2:09:17] this current order could possibly effect. Now, that’s speculation depending on

[2:09:17] possibly effect. Now, that’s speculation depending on what’s happened in the past.

[2:09:18] speculation depending on what’s happened in the past. It is. That goes back to the

[2:09:22] what’s happened in the past. It is. That goes back to the point of ensuring the

[2:09:23] It is. That goes back to the point of ensuring the integrity of the current code

[2:09:27] point of ensuring the integrity of the current code as written and avoiding the

[2:09:28] integrity of the current code as written and avoiding the uncertainties and risks a

[2:09:30] as written and avoiding the uncertainties and risks a ruling which again, I would do

[2:09:31] uncertainties and risks a ruling which again, I would do us having certain infirmities.

[2:09:34] ruling which again, I would do us having certain infirmities. But again, that is even though

[2:09:37] us having certain infirmities. But again, that is even though we may disagree with the

[2:09:38] But again, that is even though we may disagree with the court’s ruling could be made

[2:09:40] we may disagree with the court’s ruling could be made seek to have a higher court

[2:09:43] court’s ruling could be made seek to have a higher court overturned the lower court and

[2:09:46] seek to have a higher court overturned the lower court and find that the county’s

[2:09:47] overturned the lower court and find that the county’s regulations and process

[2:09:48] find that the county’s regulations and process followed were in accordance to

[2:09:49] regulations and process followed were in accordance to the law. That is not to say

[2:09:51] followed were in accordance to the law. That is not to say there’s not always an

[2:09:51] the law. That is not to say there’s not always an opportunity for improvement

[2:09:53] there’s not always an opportunity for improvement for clarification or efforts

[2:09:54] opportunity for improvement for clarification or efforts to make to make better again,

[2:09:57] for clarification or efforts to make to make better again, I don’t think it’s an either

[2:09:59] to make to make better again, I don’t think it’s an either or and I don’t think it should

[2:10:01] I don’t think it’s an either or and I don’t think it should be frame like that because it

[2:10:01] or and I don’t think it should be frame like that because it is typical and often occurs in

[2:10:03] be frame like that because it is typical and often occurs in litigation that decisions are

[2:10:05] is typical and often occurs in litigation that decisions are made on the back end to change

[2:10:07] litigation that decisions are made on the back end to change things and then things correct

[2:10:09] made on the back end to change things and then things correct things. But that’s not to say

[2:10:11] things and then things correct things. But that’s not to say that that warrants or

[2:10:13] things. But that’s not to say that that warrants or justifies forgoing appeal as

[2:10:14] that that warrants or justifies forgoing appeal as to the current immediate

[2:10:14] justifies forgoing appeal as to the current immediate effects of the ruling.

[2:10:19] to the current immediate effects of the ruling. >> In what one thing that

[2:10:19] effects of the ruling. >> In what one thing that Adele didn’t mention was you

[2:10:20] >> In what one thing that Adele didn’t mention was you also have to look at the

[2:10:22] Adele didn’t mention was you also have to look at the underlying decision. If you

[2:10:24] also have to look at the underlying decision. If you don’t appeal that underline

[2:10:25] underlying decision. If you don’t appeal that underline decision of the court

[2:10:27] don’t appeal that underline decision of the court squashing your approval of the

[2:10:28] decision of the court squashing your approval of the development. Stan’s. The

[2:10:35] squashing your approval of the development. Stan’s. The applicant is going to appeal.

[2:10:37] development. Stan’s. The applicant is going to appeal. I mean, I’m sure they are

[2:10:38] applicant is going to appeal. I mean, I’m sure they are hopeful that they prevail and

[2:10:39] I mean, I’m sure they are hopeful that they prevail and that would reinstate the

[2:10:39] hopeful that they prevail and that would reinstate the underline decision. But that

[2:10:42] that would reinstate the underline decision. But that is one big thing about the

[2:10:44] underline decision. But that is one big thing about the appeal that Dale didn’t

[2:10:46] is one big thing about the appeal that Dale didn’t mention that. I wanted to make

[2:10:47] appeal that Dale didn’t mention that. I wanted to make sure you are thinking about

[2:10:47] mention that. I wanted to make sure you are thinking about because if you if you don’t

[2:10:50] sure you are thinking about because if you if you don’t appeal that decision is

[2:10:52] because if you if you don’t appeal that decision is squashed. So there is no

[2:10:53] appeal that decision is squashed. So there is no approval of the development

[2:10:53] squashed. So there is no approval of the development plan. That’s there. That’s not

[2:11:01] approval of the development plan. That’s there. That’s not for us to fight and some. No,

[2:11:02] plan. That’s there. That’s not for us to fight and some. No, but I’m trying to make sure

[2:11:03] for us to fight and some. No, but I’m trying to make sure that we get a complete answer

[2:11:04] but I’m trying to make sure that we get a complete answer to the commissioners

[2:11:04] that we get a complete answer to the commissioners questions. So you know, yes,

[2:11:08] to the commissioners questions. So you know, yes, you can absolutely change your

[2:11:10] questions. So you know, yes, you can absolutely change your coat to fix the underlying

[2:11:10] you can absolutely change your coat to fix the underlying problem. The excuse me, the

[2:11:13] coat to fix the underlying problem. The excuse me, the the wording that the court

[2:11:15] problem. The excuse me, the the wording that the court didn’t like. But that

[2:11:17] the wording that the court didn’t like. But that underlined decision, the

[2:11:17] didn’t like. But that underlined decision, the approval of the development

[2:11:19] underlined decision, the approval of the development that would be up in the air

[2:11:21] approval of the development that would be up in the air until the developer completes

[2:11:21] that would be up in the air until the developer completes their appeal. And then there

[2:11:24] until the developer completes their appeal. And then there still. A potential that.

[2:11:33] their appeal. And then there still. A potential that. Anything else that we’ve

[2:11:33] still. A potential that. Anything else that we’ve approved in the past are

[2:11:34] Anything else that we’ve approved in the past are saying it’s not that that that

[2:11:36] approved in the past are saying it’s not that that that but if somebody wanted to

[2:11:36] saying it’s not that that that but if somebody wanted to challenge that, that would

[2:11:37] but if somebody wanted to challenge that, that would make it easier for them to

[2:11:38] challenge that, that would make it easier for them to challenge.

[2:11:40] make it easier for them to challenge. >> there

[2:11:41] challenge. >> there >> are a lot of creative

[2:11:41] >> there >> are a lot of creative lawyers out there that can

[2:11:43] >> are a lot of creative lawyers out there that can come up with creative

[2:11:44] lawyers out there that can come up with creative arguments as to how ruling

[2:11:47] come up with creative arguments as to how ruling that’s issued by a circuit

[2:11:48] arguments as to how ruling that’s issued by a circuit court today may affect legal

[2:11:49] that’s issued by a circuit court today may affect legal consequences as the things in

[2:11:50] court today may affect legal consequences as the things in the past. A bit speculative.

[2:11:54] consequences as the things in the past. A bit speculative. But those kinds of arguments

[2:11:55] the past. A bit speculative. But those kinds of arguments are not unheard of.

[2:11:59] But those kinds of arguments are not unheard of. >> But it but the but the way

[2:12:00] are not unheard of. >> But it but the but the way the way that we do business

[2:12:01] >> But it but the but the way the way that we do business right now is. Pretty much

[2:12:04] the way that we do business right now is. Pretty much standard across the state

[2:12:04] right now is. Pretty much standard across the state with. Most counties.

[2:12:10] standard across the state with. Most counties. >> I generally speaking, yes,

[2:12:11] with. Most counties. >> I generally speaking, yes, it’s I would say every

[2:12:11] >> I generally speaking, yes, it’s I would say every county’s a little different.

[2:12:13] it’s I would say every county’s a little different. But yes, generally speaking.

[2:12:17] county’s a little different. But yes, generally speaking. >> I think that staff looked

[2:12:18] But yes, generally speaking. >> I think that staff looked at other communities to see.

[2:12:20] >> I think that staff looked at other communities to see. And I think the Lake County.

[2:12:24] at other communities to see. And I think the Lake County. Code was the only code that

[2:12:25] And I think the Lake County. Code was the only code that was found. And that was the

[2:12:29] Code was the only code that was found. And that was the one that Judson mental is from

[2:12:30] was found. And that was the one that Judson mental is from Lake County. That’s where he

[2:12:31] one that Judson mental is from Lake County. That’s where he retired. And that’s the code

[2:12:32] Lake County. That’s where he retired. And that’s the code that he used. I think we’re

[2:12:41] retired. And that’s the code that he used. I think we’re just on a slippery s****. I

[2:12:44] that he used. I think we’re just on a slippery s****. I mean, the legislature is.

[2:12:48] just on a slippery s****. I mean, the legislature is. Coming hard and fast for local

[2:12:49] mean, the legislature is. Coming hard and fast for local governments.

[2:12:53] Coming hard and fast for local governments. >> We see the eroding of home

[2:12:55] governments. >> We see the eroding of home rule at every turn. They’re

[2:12:57] >> We see the eroding of home rule at every turn. They’re coming in and overruling what

[2:12:59] rule at every turn. They’re coming in and overruling what and taking away our powers it

[2:13:00] coming in and overruling what and taking away our powers it at the local level. And I I

[2:13:03] and taking away our powers it at the local level. And I I just I personally feel like

[2:13:04] at the local level. And I I just I personally feel like this is one that.

[2:13:07] just I personally feel like this is one that. >> We need to understand

[2:13:09] this is one that. >> We need to understand because I I don’t think it

[2:13:10] >> We need to understand because I I don’t think it ends here. I think this is

[2:13:10] because I I don’t think it ends here. I think this is going to be if we don’t make a

[2:13:13] ends here. I think this is going to be if we don’t make a determination out of this an

[2:13:14] going to be if we don’t make a determination out of this an appeal, it. That this is going

[2:13:16] determination out of this an appeal, it. That this is going to have much. Far implications

[2:13:21] appeal, it. That this is going to have much. Far implications than just this case. So I’m

[2:13:27] to have much. Far implications than just this case. So I’m going to stand by what the

[2:13:27] than just this case. So I’m going to stand by what the motion that’s on the floor.

[2:13:30] going to stand by what the motion that’s on the floor. >> So what happened

[2:13:31] motion that’s on the floor. >> So what happened Commissioner Barrick pulls

[2:13:32] >> So what happened Commissioner Barrick pulls back her motion someone else

[2:13:33] Commissioner Barrick pulls back her motion someone else have to. Like. You don’t have

[2:13:37] back her motion someone else have to. Like. You don’t have an original motion maker.

[2:13:42] have to. Like. You don’t have an original motion maker. >> I think Commissioner Kerik

[2:13:43] an original motion maker. >> I think Commissioner Kerik would just vote against her

[2:13:43] >> I think Commissioner Kerik would just vote against her motion. Is she? Wanted to

[2:13:45] would just vote against her motion. Is she? Wanted to withdraw at this point because

[2:13:49] motion. Is she? Wanted to withdraw at this point because the body has the motion

[2:13:50] withdraw at this point because the body has the motion because it’s been moved and

[2:13:51] the body has the motion because it’s been moved and seconded.

[2:13:55] because it’s been moved and seconded. >> Anything else?

[2:13:59] seconded. >> Anything else? >> I would just say that I

[2:13:59] >> Anything else? >> I would just say that I would prefer to not okay.

[2:14:00] >> I would just say that I would prefer to not okay. However. I do believe that the

[2:14:05] would prefer to not okay. However. I do believe that the optics of even though it is a

[2:14:08] However. I do believe that the optics of even though it is a routine matter to join in with

[2:14:08] optics of even though it is a routine matter to join in with another appeal. I think that

[2:14:13] routine matter to join in with another appeal. I think that the optics are poor and it’s

[2:14:14] another appeal. I think that the optics are poor and it’s about $0.17 per resident at

[2:14:16] the optics are poor and it’s about $0.17 per resident at the maximum year. You may be

[2:14:18] about $0.17 per resident at the maximum year. You may be coming in at half that so. So

[2:14:22] the maximum year. You may be coming in at half that so. So I will support this motion and

[2:14:26] coming in at half that so. So I will support this motion and I think that we have to defend

[2:14:27] I will support this motion and I think that we have to defend our authority are home rule

[2:14:27] I think that we have to defend our authority are home rule authority. And if we let let a

[2:14:32] our authority are home rule authority. And if we let let a clash ruling stand. Then we

[2:14:33] authority. And if we let let a clash ruling stand. Then we are not defending. What we do

[2:14:37] clash ruling stand. Then we are not defending. What we do and whether you agree with

[2:14:38] are not defending. What we do and whether you agree with that or not agree with the

[2:14:39] and whether you agree with that or not agree with the decision or not, that we very

[2:14:42] that or not agree with the decision or not, that we very carefully consider this item

[2:14:43] decision or not, that we very carefully consider this item and we need to defend what how

[2:14:45] carefully consider this item and we need to defend what how we rolled. So. I’ll be in

[2:14:47] and we need to defend what how we rolled. So. I’ll be in favor of it.

[2:14:51] we rolled. So. I’ll be in favor of it. >> I don’t know the math is

[2:14:52] favor of it. >> I don’t know the math is right at $0.17, but I don’t

[2:14:53] >> I don’t know the math is right at $0.17, but I don’t think any taxpayer out there.

[2:14:57] right at $0.17, but I don’t think any taxpayer out there. should say any, but I think

[2:14:59] think any taxpayer out there. should say any, but I think they’re going to see $30,000

[2:15:00] should say any, but I think they’re going to see $30,000 is a lot of money for

[2:15:03] they’re going to see $30,000 is a lot of money for government to to go into into

[2:15:04] is a lot of money for government to to go into into their people inside with the

[2:15:04] government to to go into into their people inside with the developer. Commissioner, can

[2:15:11] their people inside with the developer. Commissioner, can >> Yeah, I said when when

[2:15:12] developer. Commissioner, can >> Yeah, I said when when proposed my motion that I

[2:15:13] >> Yeah, I said when when proposed my motion that I don’t want to spend the dollar

[2:15:15] proposed my motion that I don’t want to spend the dollar of taxpayer money on this and

[2:15:17] don’t want to spend the dollar of taxpayer money on this and I’m gonna stand by that vote

[2:15:17] of taxpayer money on this and I’m gonna stand by that vote against the motion whether its

[2:15:22] I’m gonna stand by that vote against the motion whether its dollars or $15. I’m not going

[2:15:25] against the motion whether its dollars or $15. I’m not going to support going to court to

[2:15:26] dollars or $15. I’m not going to support going to court to to appeal this. If there’s an

[2:15:31] to support going to court to to appeal this. If there’s an avenue to to appeal it again,

[2:15:33] to appeal this. If there’s an avenue to to appeal it again, because I believe the judge

[2:15:33] avenue to to appeal it again, because I believe the judge got it wrong. I would support

[2:15:38] because I believe the judge got it wrong. I would support that. if this again, all say

[2:15:40] got it wrong. I would support that. if this again, all say if this motion passes, so be

[2:15:43] that. if this again, all say if this motion passes, so be it, but if not, be prepared to

[2:15:46] if this motion passes, so be it, but if not, be prepared to make a different motion. would

[2:15:50] it, but if not, be prepared to make a different motion. would be very similar to where we

[2:15:52] make a different motion. would be very similar to where we started with, although I would

[2:15:53] be very similar to where we started with, although I would add to that I want to make

[2:15:57] started with, although I would add to that I want to make sure that we’re changing are

[2:15:57] add to that I want to make sure that we’re changing are making a text amendment so

[2:15:59] sure that we’re changing are making a text amendment so that we can protect past

[2:16:00] making a text amendment so that we can protect past decisions.

[2:16:05] that we can protect past decisions. >> Yes, just following

[2:16:06] decisions. >> Yes, just following commissioner Canard, we’re at

[2:16:07] >> Yes, just following commissioner Canard, we’re at a special meeting. So we would

[2:16:09] commissioner Canard, we’re at a special meeting. So we would have to make an agenda item

[2:16:10] a special meeting. So we would have to make an agenda item for you for the next meeting

[2:16:10] have to make an agenda item for you for the next meeting to get that done.

[2:16:13] for you for the next meeting to get that done. >> Perfect way do that. And

[2:16:16] to get that done. >> Perfect way do that. And things go,

[2:16:18] >> Perfect way do that. And things go, >> All those in favor. Any

[2:16:25] things go, >> All those in favor. Any opposed nay. Motion carries 3,

[2:16:28] >> All those in favor. Any opposed nay. Motion carries 3, 0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the

[2:16:36] opposed nay. Motion carries 3, 0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the right side.

[2:16:41] 0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the right side. >> Okay. excuse me. The

[2:16:43] right side. >> Okay. excuse me. The meetings not on theirs open to

[2:16:44] >> Okay. excuse me. The meetings not on theirs open to the public. And this could be

[2:16:47] meetings not on theirs open to the public. And this could be about anything. You want to

[2:16:48] the public. And this could be about anything. You want to talk about at this open to the

[2:16:50] about anything. You want to talk about at this open to the public. Just make sure that

[2:16:51] talk about at this open to the public. Just make sure that you have.

[2:16:53] public. Just make sure that you have. >> Or excuse me, commissioner

[2:16:58] you have. >> Or excuse me, commissioner people in the audience, I’m

[2:16:59] >> Or excuse me, commissioner people in the audience, I’m still conducting a meeting. So

[2:17:03] people in the audience, I’m still conducting a meeting. So 3 minutes unless you have a

[2:17:04] still conducting a meeting. So 3 minutes unless you have a letter and file. Let me know

[2:17:05] 3 minutes unless you have a letter and file. Let me know that you have a letter on file

[2:17:06] letter and file. Let me know that you have a letter on file and I will check with the

[2:17:09] that you have a letter on file and I will check with the clerk. Whatever she says is

[2:17:10] and I will check with the clerk. Whatever she says is gold. Please keep all your

[2:17:10] clerk. Whatever she says is gold. Please keep all your comments directed his me the

[2:17:12] gold. Please keep all your comments directed his me the chair and keep it appropriate

[2:17:15] comments directed his me the chair and keep it appropriate and to board business. But

[2:17:17] chair and keep it appropriate and to board business. But this is not about just one

[2:17:18] and to board business. But this is not about just one subject. Now, this can be any

[2:17:22] this is not about just one subject. Now, this can be any county business that you have.

[2:17:24] subject. Now, this can be any county business that you have. Welcome, Mr. Bryant first

[2:17:24] county business that you have. Welcome, Mr. Bryant first right answer.

[2:17:27] Welcome, Mr. Bryant first right answer. >> What is going on your dress

[2:17:28] right answer. >> What is going on your dress like this is absolutely crazy.

[2:17:31] >> What is going on your dress like this is absolutely crazy. We’re gonna spend taxpayer

[2:17:33] like this is absolutely crazy. We’re gonna spend taxpayer dollars after you guys just

[2:17:35] We’re gonna spend taxpayer dollars after you guys just fought for right rudder to be

[2:17:36] dollars after you guys just fought for right rudder to be dismissed because we’re

[2:17:37] fought for right rudder to be dismissed because we’re spending taxpayer dollars

[2:17:37] dismissed because we’re spending taxpayer dollars here. We are spending up to

[2:17:39] spending taxpayer dollars here. We are spending up to $30,000 to litigate something

[2:17:39] here. We are spending up to $30,000 to litigate something else for a developer. Body had

[2:17:41] $30,000 to litigate something else for a developer. Body had this been any other community

[2:17:42] else for a developer. Body had this been any other community in Citrus County. This

[2:17:43] this been any other community in Citrus County. This wouldn’t be happening. It’s

[2:17:46] in Citrus County. This wouldn’t be happening. It’s because one person is friends

[2:17:47] wouldn’t be happening. It’s because one person is friends with 3 guys on this board for

[2:17:48] because one person is friends with 3 guys on this board for guys in this whatever the

[2:17:51] with 3 guys on this board for guys in this whatever the number is, we’re here fighting

[2:17:51] guys in this whatever the number is, we’re here fighting that battle for him and help

[2:17:53] number is, we’re here fighting that battle for him and help him. But to do the fact that

[2:17:54] that battle for him and help him. But to do the fact that we’re getting e-mails from

[2:17:55] him. But to do the fact that we’re getting e-mails from their attorneys, the day of

[2:17:56] we’re getting e-mails from their attorneys, the day of meetings with these different

[2:17:58] their attorneys, the day of meetings with these different things in the in the email you

[2:18:00] meetings with these different things in the in the email you reference having

[2:18:02] things in the in the email you reference having conversations. I know you guys

[2:18:02] reference having conversations. I know you guys have a conversation with him.

[2:18:05] conversations. I know you guys have a conversation with him. I’ve records requests to speak

[2:18:06] have a conversation with him. I’ve records requests to speak in a records request and guys

[2:18:08] I’ve records requests to speak in a records request and guys aren’t giving records are

[2:18:08] in a records request and guys aren’t giving records are passed. So that’s a whole

[2:18:09] aren’t giving records are passed. So that’s a whole different issue that we’ll

[2:18:09] passed. So that’s a whole different issue that we’ll talk about later on. We need

[2:18:12] different issue that we’ll talk about later on. We need more transparency in this

[2:18:13] talk about later on. We need more transparency in this county. You guys are appeared

[2:18:14] more transparency in this county. You guys are appeared as w**** nilly. Do whatever

[2:18:15] county. You guys are appeared as w**** nilly. Do whatever guys want You know, I don’t

[2:18:16] as w**** nilly. Do whatever guys want You know, I don’t know what’s going on here. So

[2:18:21] guys want You know, I don’t know what’s going on here. So just going about that going

[2:18:22] know what’s going on here. So just going about that going forward, you know, we’ve got

[2:18:24] just going about that going forward, you know, we’ve got issues here is that county

[2:18:24] forward, you know, we’ve got issues here is that county transparency is one of them.

[2:18:25] issues here is that county transparency is one of them. People don’t trust government

[2:18:27] transparency is one of them. People don’t trust government decisions like this. Cause

[2:18:28] People don’t trust government decisions like this. Cause those issues. They’re not just

[2:18:30] decisions like this. Cause those issues. They’re not just government. When records

[2:18:32] those issues. They’re not just government. When records requests come in and yes, 60

[2:18:33] government. When records requests come in and yes, 60 days to get records. Request

[2:18:34] requests come in and yes, 60 days to get records. Request for a personal call because

[2:18:34] days to get records. Request for a personal call because guys having so many phone

[2:18:35] for a personal call because guys having so many phone conversations on your personal

[2:18:37] guys having so many phone conversations on your personal devices and you can’t

[2:18:39] conversations on your personal devices and you can’t differentiate which ones are

[2:18:40] devices and you can’t differentiate which ones are personal, which was a county

[2:18:40] differentiate which ones are personal, which was a county calls. That’s a problem. So I

[2:18:43] personal, which was a county calls. That’s a problem. So I ask you guys to consider those

[2:18:45] calls. That’s a problem. So I ask you guys to consider those things be more transparent.

[2:18:45] ask you guys to consider those things be more transparent. That’s what we want here.

[2:18:46] things be more transparent. That’s what we want here. Citrus County, thank you.

[2:18:47] That’s what we want here. Citrus County, thank you. >> Thank U next speaker.

[2:18:54] Citrus County, thank you. >> Thank U next speaker. >> marked a plea from poppy

[2:18:55] >> Thank U next speaker. >> marked a plea from poppy drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a

[2:18:58] >> marked a plea from poppy drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a little bit out of strengths

[2:18:59] drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a little bit out of strengths here. But I’m assuming that

[2:19:03] little bit out of strengths here. But I’m assuming that you all read every word of the

[2:19:06] here. But I’m assuming that you all read every word of the judge’s decision. Is that a

[2:19:08] you all read every word of the judge’s decision. Is that a fair assumption? Because what

[2:19:12] judge’s decision. Is that a fair assumption? Because what I recall is that. If you do

[2:19:15] fair assumption? Because what I recall is that. If you do appeal it. You can introduce

[2:19:17] I recall is that. If you do appeal it. You can introduce anything new. know, what I’m

[2:19:20] appeal it. You can introduce anything new. know, what I’m hearing is that you want

[2:19:23] anything new. know, what I’m hearing is that you want introduce something new. So I

[2:19:26] hearing is that you want introduce something new. So I think I think the best thing

[2:19:26] introduce something new. So I think I think the best thing for everyone. Include

[2:19:29] think I think the best thing for everyone. Include especially the board. Mr.

[2:19:31] for everyone. Include especially the board. Mr. Reconsider. To accept the

[2:19:34] especially the board. Mr. Reconsider. To accept the decision. Then make the

[2:19:37] Reconsider. To accept the decision. Then make the changes that you can make. And

[2:19:41] decision. Then make the changes that you can make. And go back read free.

[2:19:45] changes that you can make. And go back read free. >> Re redo it. I get them out

[2:19:46] go back read free. >> Re redo it. I get them out of Mike strength here. But I

[2:19:49] >> Re redo it. I get them out of Mike strength here. But I think you’re making a mistake

[2:19:52] of Mike strength here. But I think you’re making a mistake by considering introducing new

[2:19:53] think you’re making a mistake by considering introducing new information because the

[2:19:56] by considering introducing new information because the judge’s decision, I think.

[2:19:59] information because the judge’s decision, I think. Specifically said. You can’t

[2:20:02] judge’s decision, I think. Specifically said. You can’t bring in any new information.

[2:20:05] Specifically said. You can’t bring in any new information. Something to think about.

[2:20:07] bring in any new information. Something to think about. Thank you.

[2:20:08] Something to think about. Thank you. >> Thank U next speaker.

[2:20:11] Thank you. >> Thank U next speaker. >> While they’re coming up,

[2:20:11] >> Thank U next speaker. >> While they’re coming up, Madam Chair. Madam Attorney,

[2:20:16] >> While they’re coming up, Madam Chair. Madam Attorney, can you address that? Because

[2:20:17] Madam Chair. Madam Attorney, can you address that? Because we’re not introducing anything

[2:20:17] can you address that? Because we’re not introducing anything new.

[2:20:22] we’re not introducing anything new. >> I’m not sure what he was

[2:20:23] new. >> I’m not sure what he was talking about. I didn’t hear

[2:20:23] >> I’m not sure what he was talking about. I didn’t hear you all trying to introduce

[2:20:25] talking about. I didn’t hear you all trying to introduce anything new. What I

[2:20:27] you all trying to introduce anything new. What I understood. Commissioner cart

[2:20:28] anything new. What I understood. Commissioner cart canard is going to want a

[2:20:32] understood. Commissioner cart canard is going to want a agenda item at an upcoming

[2:20:33] canard is going to want a agenda item at an upcoming meeting to address the

[2:20:34] agenda item at an upcoming meeting to address the language of our code. I don’t

[2:20:35] meeting to address the language of our code. I don’t think that has anything to do

[2:20:35] language of our code. I don’t think that has anything to do with the appeal.

[2:20:40] think that has anything to do with the appeal. >> Thank you for your patience

[2:20:41] with the appeal. >> Thank you for your patience and even run where I live in

[2:20:42] >> Thank you for your patience and even run where I live in Pine I moved here to retire.

[2:20:45] and even run where I live in Pine I moved here to retire. Horses and goal. When I got

[2:20:48] Pine I moved here to retire. Horses and goal. When I got here, the golf course closed

[2:20:51] Horses and goal. When I got here, the golf course closed about previous year. But new

[2:20:52] here, the golf course closed about previous year. But new year to get moved. Couple

[2:20:56] about previous year. But new year to get moved. Couple things I’m seeing here that I

[2:20:57] year to get moved. Couple things I’m seeing here that I don’t really like one is he

[2:21:01] things I’m seeing here that I don’t really like one is he don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5

[2:21:02] don’t really like one is he don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5 minutes. He gets talk all he

[2:21:02] don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5 minutes. He gets talk all he wants. And for Dick’s to come

[2:21:05] minutes. He gets talk all he wants. And for Dick’s to come in with the e-mail the couple

[2:21:09] wants. And for Dick’s to come in with the e-mail the couple hours before this meeting as a

[2:21:09] in with the e-mail the couple hours before this meeting as a last minute. Hail Mary to

[2:21:12] hours before this meeting as a last minute. Hail Mary to change your guys. Ideas. Is

[2:21:14] last minute. Hail Mary to change your guys. Ideas. Is crazy. If I was going to be in

[2:21:18] change your guys. Ideas. Is crazy. If I was going to be in a courtroom and this is a

[2:21:19] crazy. If I was going to be in a courtroom and this is a courtroom, if I don’t show up.

[2:21:21] a courtroom and this is a courtroom, if I don’t show up. It’s my problem. He didn’t

[2:21:22] courtroom, if I don’t show up. It’s my problem. He didn’t show up. It’s not that

[2:21:26] It’s my problem. He didn’t show up. It’s not that important to him, but he can

[2:21:27] show up. It’s not that important to him, but he can e-mail all you guys to

[2:21:27] important to him, but he can e-mail all you guys to influence you. I don’t want to

[2:21:31] e-mail all you guys to influence you. I don’t want to cause a kangaroo. Court was

[2:21:32] influence you. I don’t want to cause a kangaroo. Court was looking more like that. This

[2:21:34] cause a kangaroo. Court was looking more like that. This is crazy. White. Our

[2:21:37] looking more like that. This is crazy. White. Our representatives would go

[2:21:38] is crazy. White. Our representatives would go against U.S. with the

[2:21:39] representatives would go against U.S. with the developer. Pine Ridge, very to

[2:21:45] against U.S. with the developer. Pine Ridge, very to the year and a half to find

[2:21:49] developer. Pine Ridge, very to the year and a half to find this location. The head golf

[2:21:49] the year and a half to find this location. The head golf in horses. Don’t ruin one of

[2:21:54] this location. The head golf in horses. Don’t ruin one of the very few places left in

[2:21:55] in horses. Don’t ruin one of the very few places left in the country. To have fees for

[2:21:58] the very few places left in the country. To have fees for people. If you take. Community

[2:22:04] the country. To have fees for people. If you take. Community and just rip it apart for a

[2:22:05] people. If you take. Community and just rip it apart for a few dollars is crazy. And you

[2:22:08] and just rip it apart for a few dollars is crazy. And you don’t vote. Resign, please. If

[2:22:13] few dollars is crazy. And you don’t vote. Resign, please. If you’re going to go against us.

[2:22:14] don’t vote. Resign, please. If you’re going to go against us. Remember? Everybody here, see

[2:22:18] you’re going to go against us. Remember? Everybody here, see what’s going on. And I’m not a

[2:22:23] Remember? Everybody here, see what’s going on. And I’m not a political act is about insurer

[2:22:24] what’s going on. And I’m not a political act is about insurer will be one. If you guys. Take

[2:22:29] political act is about insurer will be one. If you guys. Take the motion to go against what

[2:22:30] will be one. If you guys. Take the motion to go against what I’m paying your salary. Any

[2:22:33] the motion to go against what I’m paying your salary. Any one of my employees, they

[2:22:33] I’m paying your salary. Any one of my employees, they business for 30 years that

[2:22:35] one of my employees, they business for 30 years that went against me, got fired. we

[2:22:39] business for 30 years that went against me, got fired. we do this votes and I’ll be more

[2:22:41] went against me, got fired. we do this votes and I’ll be more than happy to do that. And,

[2:22:43] do this votes and I’ll be more than happy to do that. And, Howie, I give you a really

[2:22:45] than happy to do that. And, Howie, I give you a really good. Kick when you first

[2:22:48] Howie, I give you a really good. Kick when you first start out. But I’m surprised

[2:22:50] good. Kick when you first start out. But I’m surprised you living in. Cummins, high

[2:22:54] start out. But I’m surprised you living in. Cummins, high ridges, you changed. I’m not

[2:22:55] you living in. Cummins, high ridges, you changed. I’m not going to in-person that. But

[2:23:00] ridges, you changed. I’m not going to in-person that. But the only public you’re the

[2:23:01] going to in-person that. But the only public you’re the only one up. Here are the

[2:23:02] the only public you’re the only one up. Here are the common sense. Thank

[2:23:09] only one up. Here are the common sense. Thank >> Commissioner Bear just that

[2:23:10] common sense. Thank >> Commissioner Bear just that the motion, that workers to

[2:23:14] >> Commissioner Bear just that the motion, that workers to come. was going do. He was

[2:23:14] the motion, that workers to come. was going do. He was going to bring it back to like

[2:23:19] come. was going do. He was going to bring it back to like are very will. No, ma’am. He

[2:23:20] going to bring it back to like are very will. No, ma’am. He was going to bring it back the

[2:23:20] are very will. No, ma’am. He was going to bring it back the way we voted in the first

[2:23:21] was going to bring it back the way we voted in the first place. Did I hear you

[2:23:26] way we voted in the first place. Did I hear you incorrectly commission

[2:23:27] place. Did I hear you incorrectly commission involved? And yeah. I think I

[2:23:33] incorrectly commission involved? And yeah. I think I think you heard incorrectly,

[2:23:33] involved? And yeah. I think I think you heard incorrectly, commissioner. That’s why I was

[2:23:34] think you heard incorrectly, commissioner. That’s why I was shocked. Good afternoon, too.

[2:23:38] commissioner. That’s why I was shocked. Good afternoon, too. Can I have up to 5 minutes

[2:23:40] shocked. Good afternoon, too. Can I have up to 5 minutes yes. Thank you.

[2:23:42] Can I have up to 5 minutes yes. Thank you. >> I wanted to. Respond to

[2:23:46] yes. Thank you. >> I wanted to. Respond to something that’s been said. A

[2:23:47] >> I wanted to. Respond to something that’s been said. A couple of timeshare by. A

[2:23:49] something that’s been said. A couple of timeshare by. A member of the board County

[2:23:52] couple of timeshare by. A member of the board County Commission talking about. Pine

[2:23:54] member of the board County Commission talking about. Pine Ridge. And the fact that we

[2:23:57] Commission talking about. Pine Ridge. And the fact that we were given a chance. And that

[2:24:00] Ridge. And the fact that we were given a chance. And that we didn’t do anything with

[2:24:00] were given a chance. And that we didn’t do anything with that. And I just wanted to,

[2:24:04] we didn’t do anything with that. And I just wanted to, you know, every story has a

[2:24:05] that. And I just wanted to, you know, every story has a couple of sides to it. And in

[2:24:07] you know, every story has a couple of sides to it. And in our stories this. We won the

[2:24:11] couple of sides to it. And in our stories this. We won the first. Hearing 5 to 0. We

[2:24:16] our stories this. We won the first. Hearing 5 to 0. We tried to approach. Bear in

[2:24:21] first. Hearing 5 to 0. We tried to approach. Bear in mind in order negotiate some

[2:24:23] tried to approach. Bear in mind in order negotiate some of the text to willing parties

[2:24:23] mind in order negotiate some of the text to willing parties to negotiate an agreement?

[2:24:25] of the text to willing parties to negotiate an agreement? Well, first thing that

[2:24:27] to negotiate an agreement? Well, first thing that happened was the developer

[2:24:28] Well, first thing that happened was the developer filed a request for relief.

[2:24:32] happened was the developer filed a request for relief. Then he sued our president

[2:24:33] filed a request for relief. Then he sued our president with a civil lawsuit and then

[2:24:34] Then he sued our president with a civil lawsuit and then he sued the P o a homeowners

[2:24:37] with a civil lawsuit and then he sued the P o a homeowners associations. So we’re in the

[2:24:39] he sued the P o a homeowners associations. So we’re in the middle of litigation at that

[2:24:40] associations. So we’re in the middle of litigation at that time. It was kind of hard to

[2:24:42] middle of litigation at that time. It was kind of hard to negotiate our property issues

[2:24:47] time. It was kind of hard to negotiate our property issues when you’re in that a gay shun

[2:24:52] negotiate our property issues when you’re in that a gay shun towards towards the end before

[2:24:53] when you’re in that a gay shun towards towards the end before the second application was

[2:24:54] towards towards the end before the second application was filed, he made a public.

[2:24:59] the second application was filed, he made a public. Offering to Pine Ridge that

[2:25:00] filed, he made a public. Offering to Pine Ridge that involve the golf course

[2:25:03] Offering to Pine Ridge that involve the golf course average west and Black Diamond

[2:25:04] involve the golf course average west and Black Diamond Reserve. Being over our head.

[2:25:10] average west and Black Diamond Reserve. Being over our head. It took a while, but the board

[2:25:11] Reserve. Being over our head. It took a while, but the board finally agreed on hiring

[2:25:14] It took a while, but the board finally agreed on hiring somebody to negotiate the best

[2:25:15] finally agreed on hiring somebody to negotiate the best interest of Pine Ridge in this

[2:25:16] somebody to negotiate the best interest of Pine Ridge in this situation. Mr. Decks decided

[2:25:22] interest of Pine Ridge in this situation. Mr. Decks decided that he didn’t want to

[2:25:22] situation. Mr. Decks decided that he didn’t want to negotiate with Pine Ridge is

[2:25:24] that he didn’t want to negotiate with Pine Ridge is negotiator. So the chance that

[2:25:28] negotiate with Pine Ridge is negotiator. So the chance that you gave us is not fair to say

[2:25:29] negotiator. So the chance that you gave us is not fair to say that we didn’t do what we had

[2:25:31] you gave us is not fair to say that we didn’t do what we had to do to try and make that

[2:25:33] that we didn’t do what we had to do to try and make that negotiations were still open

[2:25:37] to do to try and make that negotiations were still open to negotiating. We think there

[2:25:37] negotiations were still open to negotiating. We think there is a way forward. We have

[2:25:39] to negotiating. We think there is a way forward. We have offer on his table. There

[2:25:42] is a way forward. We have offer on his table. There meetings with him initially

[2:25:45] offer on his table. There meetings with him initially but I don’t know why he

[2:25:46] meetings with him initially but I don’t know why he doesn’t want to try and work

[2:25:47] but I don’t know why he doesn’t want to try and work something out with us. We

[2:25:47] doesn’t want to try and work something out with us. We don’t want to continues to

[2:25:50] something out with us. We don’t want to continues to negotiate. I mean, to a gate

[2:25:55] don’t want to continues to negotiate. I mean, to a gate we don’t want you guys to have

[2:25:55] negotiate. I mean, to a gate we don’t want you guys to have to go through the We want to

[2:25:57] we don’t want you guys to have to go through the We want to solve the issue and we want to

[2:26:00] to go through the We want to solve the issue and we want to solve it. So everybody wins.

[2:26:03] solve the issue and we want to solve it. So everybody wins. But we have a settlement

[2:26:04] solve it. So everybody wins. But we have a settlement agreement on one of those

[2:26:04] But we have a settlement agreement on one of those properties. And it’s a

[2:26:07] agreement on one of those properties. And it’s a court-ordered binding

[2:26:10] properties. And it’s a court-ordered binding settlement agreement and we’re

[2:26:10] court-ordered binding settlement agreement and we’re willing to work so that they

[2:26:13] settlement agreement and we’re willing to work so that they can protect Pine Ridge and

[2:26:14] willing to work so that they can protect Pine Ridge and allow the developer to move

[2:26:15] can protect Pine Ridge and allow the developer to move forward himself. But if we

[2:26:19] allow the developer to move forward himself. But if we don’t, if you won’t talk to

[2:26:22] forward himself. But if we don’t, if you won’t talk to us, it’s not fair to say that

[2:26:23] don’t, if you won’t talk to us, it’s not fair to say that you gave us a chance because

[2:26:25] us, it’s not fair to say that you gave us a chance because nobody has given us a chance.

[2:26:26] you gave us a chance because nobody has given us a chance. And not even here today we’re

[2:26:28] nobody has given us a chance. And not even here today we’re seeing that, OK, the other

[2:26:30] And not even here today we’re seeing that, OK, the other issue is that we had

[2:26:32] seeing that, OK, the other issue is that we had homeowners so frustrated with

[2:26:32] issue is that we had homeowners so frustrated with what’s going on. They decided,

[2:26:35] homeowners so frustrated with what’s going on. They decided, well, let’s go to mister Decks

[2:26:37] what’s going on. They decided, well, let’s go to mister Decks and by the property, like you

[2:26:38] well, let’s go to mister Decks and by the property, like you suggested. James Sticks gave

[2:26:42] and by the property, like you suggested. James Sticks gave them an incredible. Price. And

[2:26:46] suggested. James Sticks gave them an incredible. Price. And then the only way he would

[2:26:47] them an incredible. Price. And then the only way he would approve selling it as if they

[2:26:51] then the only way he would approve selling it as if they could convince our our board

[2:26:53] approve selling it as if they could convince our our board of directors to allow him to

[2:26:54] could convince our our board of directors to allow him to do whatever he wanted. On the

[2:26:56] of directors to allow him to do whatever he wanted. On the average property. So it’s been

[2:27:01] do whatever he wanted. On the average property. So it’s been a nonstarter for a We’re

[2:27:04] average property. So it’s been a nonstarter for a We’re willing to work something out.

[2:27:05] a nonstarter for a We’re willing to work something out. So I just want to make that

[2:27:06] willing to work something out. So I just want to make that clear. not that we’re

[2:27:09] So I just want to make that clear. not that we’re stubborn. It’s not that we

[2:27:10] clear. not that we’re stubborn. It’s not that we don’t want help or or make a

[2:27:14] stubborn. It’s not that we don’t want help or or make a good viable solution to a very

[2:27:17] don’t want help or or make a good viable solution to a very difficult problem. We wanted

[2:27:18] good viable solution to a very difficult problem. We wanted to go away. I think that’s why

[2:27:20] difficult problem. We wanted to go away. I think that’s why we see so much. Animosity and

[2:27:25] to go away. I think that’s why we see so much. Animosity and the group that’s 4 in the

[2:27:28] we see so much. Animosity and the group that’s 4 in the group that’s against it. One

[2:27:29] the group that’s 4 in the group that’s against it. One route just wants it to go away

[2:27:30] group that’s against it. One route just wants it to go away and hopefully. Act like it’s

[2:27:33] route just wants it to go away and hopefully. Act like it’s not going impact the

[2:27:33] and hopefully. Act like it’s not going impact the community. The way were

[2:27:36] not going impact the community. The way were telling him that it will. And

[2:27:37] community. The way were telling him that it will. And the other side is

[2:27:38] telling him that it will. And the other side is understanding what the Land

[2:27:44] the other side is understanding what the Land Development code comprehensive

[2:27:45] understanding what the Land Development code comprehensive plan and the impact that that

[2:27:47] Development code comprehensive plan and the impact that that has on a vested dri. If we

[2:27:49] plan and the impact that that has on a vested dri. If we allow this change to take

[2:27:51] has on a vested dri. If we allow this change to take place where we lose the

[2:27:53] allow this change to take place where we lose the overlay and it is overlay and

[2:27:55] place where we lose the overlay and it is overlay and it’s it’s it’s a parks,

[2:27:57] overlay and it is overlay and it’s it’s it’s a parks, recreation. course, it can

[2:28:02] it’s it’s it’s a parks, recreation. course, it can only be used at this point as

[2:28:06] recreation. course, it can only be used at this point as a golf course that can’t be

[2:28:06] only be used at this point as a golf course that can’t be used for a go cart. Carter

[2:28:08] a golf course that can’t be used for a go cart. Carter Hart or anything like that.

[2:28:13] used for a go cart. Carter Hart or anything like that. It’s designated as golf

[2:28:14] Hart or anything like that. It’s designated as golf course. It’s always been part

[2:28:16] It’s designated as golf course. It’s always been part of Pine Ridge is one of the

[2:28:18] course. It’s always been part of Pine Ridge is one of the reasons that many have bought

[2:28:19] of Pine Ridge is one of the reasons that many have bought in there. We have the ability

[2:28:22] reasons that many have bought in there. We have the ability 2 try and resurrect. This golf

[2:28:25] in there. We have the ability 2 try and resurrect. This golf course is save our community

[2:28:26] 2 try and resurrect. This golf course is save our community as one of the unique gems and

[2:28:30] course is save our community as one of the unique gems and Citrus Michael Brothers always

[2:28:32] as one of the unique gems and Citrus Michael Brothers always develop their communities

[2:28:33] Citrus Michael Brothers always develop their communities where they had dual at major

[2:28:35] develop their communities where they had dual at major amenity uses where you had a

[2:28:36] where they had dual at major amenity uses where you had a golf course. And you had and

[2:28:39] amenity uses where you had a golf course. And you had and question senators, we’d like

[2:28:41] golf course. And you had and question senators, we’d like to keep it that way. And I

[2:28:43] question senators, we’d like to keep it that way. And I just, you know, I just wanted

[2:28:45] to keep it that way. And I just, you know, I just wanted you to understand we didn’t

[2:28:46] just, you know, I just wanted you to understand we didn’t have a chance.

[2:28:47] you to understand we didn’t have a chance. >> Next speaker.

[2:28:50] have a chance. >> Next speaker. >> General Open to the public.

[2:28:54] >> Next speaker. >> General Open to the public. >> Yep. And back again. This

[2:28:57] >> General Open to the public. >> Yep. And back again. This is want clarification, OK?

[2:28:59] >> Yep. And back again. This is want clarification, OK? Cause turn. sounds like things

[2:29:00] is want clarification, OK? Cause turn. sounds like things got muddled. That motion that

[2:29:05] Cause turn. sounds like things got muddled. That motion that you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t

[2:29:08] got muddled. That motion that you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t that by Janet Barrick. And

[2:29:09] you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t that by Janet Barrick. And then second by bays in order

[2:29:12] that by Janet Barrick. And then second by bays in order to pay the $30,000 for the

[2:29:15] then second by bays in order to pay the $30,000 for the appeal. Okay. And then there

[2:29:15] to pay the $30,000 for the appeal. Okay. And then there was a discussion with our

[2:29:18] appeal. Okay. And then there was a discussion with our commissioner from Pine Ridge

[2:29:20] was a discussion with our commissioner from Pine Ridge that she was going to vote no

[2:29:22] commissioner from Pine Ridge that she was going to vote no against that because she

[2:29:23] that she was going to vote no against that because she didn’t want to spend the

[2:29:24] against that because she didn’t want to spend the money. And this was a

[2:29:26] didn’t want to spend the money. And this was a discussion because we back and

[2:29:27] money. And this was a discussion because we back and forth and now when you had the

[2:29:31] discussion because we back and forth and now when you had the boat, she voted, yes, she

[2:29:33] forth and now when you had the boat, she voted, yes, she wants to spend the $30,000 to

[2:29:36] boat, she voted, yes, she wants to spend the $30,000 to appeal us. Okay, because I

[2:29:36] wants to spend the $30,000 to appeal us. Okay, because I just want to make sure that we

[2:29:37] appeal us. Okay, because I just want to make sure that we got I got that clear that it

[2:29:39] just want to make sure that we got I got that clear that it is our commissioner from Pine

[2:29:42] got I got that clear that it is our commissioner from Pine Ridge that voted to do this.

[2:29:45] is our commissioner from Pine Ridge that voted to do this. Okay. So that’s who I have to

[2:29:47] Ridge that voted to do this. Okay. So that’s who I have to play because I’ve my taxes. I

[2:29:50] Okay. So that’s who I have to play because I’ve my taxes. I have to pay $45,4500 this

[2:29:52] play because I’ve my taxes. I have to pay $45,4500 this year? Thank you.

[2:29:55] have to pay $45,4500 this year? Thank you. >> 6 Speaker.

[2:30:05] year? Thank you. >> 6 Speaker. >> My name is Theresa Boards

[2:30:07] >> 6 Speaker. >> My name is Theresa Boards to live how you drive on drive

[2:30:07] >> My name is Theresa Boards to live how you drive on drive in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard

[2:30:11] to live how you drive on drive in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard anyone discuss. The impact of

[2:30:16] in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard anyone discuss. The impact of all these new homes going and

[2:30:17] anyone discuss. The impact of all these new homes going and there’s homes gone. And

[2:30:18] all these new homes going and there’s homes gone. And there’s a brand new freeway.

[2:30:21] there’s homes gone. And there’s a brand new freeway. Wasn’t there. When I moved

[2:30:22] there’s a brand new freeway. Wasn’t there. When I moved here when I moved here, there

[2:30:24] Wasn’t there. When I moved here when I moved here, there was nothing. But Angus past

[2:30:26] here when I moved here, there was nothing. But Angus past years, that’s the only reason

[2:30:27] was nothing. But Angus past years, that’s the only reason I agreed to move year, but it

[2:30:29] years, that’s the only reason I agreed to move year, but it was because of the horses. And

[2:30:33] I agreed to move year, but it was because of the horses. And horseback, at least 5 days a

[2:30:34] was because of the horses. And horseback, at least 5 days a week. In Pine Ridge on the 28

[2:30:38] horseback, at least 5 days a week. In Pine Ridge on the 28 miles of trail. We cross

[2:30:40] week. In Pine Ridge on the 28 miles of trail. We cross there’s a couple trails across

[2:30:42] miles of trail. We cross there’s a couple trails across Pine Ridge Boulevard and

[2:30:43] there’s a couple trails across Pine Ridge Boulevard and Mustang and those 2 roads are

[2:30:45] Pine Ridge Boulevard and Mustang and those 2 roads are treacherous at. Dinner time

[2:30:49] Mustang and those 2 roads are treacherous at. Dinner time people moving and going home.

[2:30:52] treacherous at. Dinner time people moving and going home. I’m a good writer of got

[2:30:53] people moving and going home. I’m a good writer of got really good train horses. Some

[2:30:54] I’m a good writer of got really good train horses. Some of these people that are right

[2:30:54] really good train horses. Some of these people that are right with. You know, in their 70’s

[2:30:58] of these people that are right with. You know, in their 70’s 80’s. Many of them are just

[2:31:02] with. You know, in their 70’s 80’s. Many of them are just frightened. The traffic is

[2:31:04] 80’s. Many of them are just frightened. The traffic is something that needs to be

[2:31:06] frightened. The traffic is something that needs to be really considered. And, you

[2:31:09] something that needs to be really considered. And, you know, if this is a

[2:31:10] really considered. And, you know, if this is a recreational subdivision. You

[2:31:15] know, if this is a recreational subdivision. You know, forces have a mind of

[2:31:16] recreational subdivision. You know, forces have a mind of their own. They’re not like a

[2:31:17] know, forces have a mind of their own. They’re not like a mini bike. You can just turn

[2:31:18] their own. They’re not like a mini bike. You can just turn them off. And we’ve already

[2:31:19] mini bike. You can just turn them off. And we’ve already got 4 wheelers trying to get

[2:31:20] them off. And we’ve already got 4 wheelers trying to get on the trails and now a lot of

[2:31:23] got 4 wheelers trying to get on the trails and now a lot of people walk their dogs, which

[2:31:23] on the trails and now a lot of people walk their dogs, which don’t care about that. But the

[2:31:26] people walk their dogs, which don’t care about that. But the motorized stuff, the e-bikes,

[2:31:27] don’t care about that. But the motorized stuff, the e-bikes, you know, these people by

[2:31:31] motorized stuff, the e-bikes, you know, these people by house with big house and the

[2:31:32] you know, these people by house with big house and the goal be of acreage and, you

[2:31:34] house with big house and the goal be of acreage and, you know, there’s kids rollover

[2:31:34] goal be of acreage and, you know, there’s kids rollover with the e-bikes and I get

[2:31:36] know, there’s kids rollover with the e-bikes and I get that, too. But it’s not

[2:31:37] with the e-bikes and I get that, too. But it’s not allowed. And so the equestrian

[2:31:40] that, too. But it’s not allowed. And so the equestrian uses unique. Not. In extreme.

[2:31:49] allowed. And so the equestrian uses unique. Not. In extreme. Popular thing because not

[2:31:50] uses unique. Not. In extreme. Popular thing because not everybody. Puts horses in

[2:31:54] Popular thing because not everybody. Puts horses in their backyard like I have for

[2:31:55] everybody. Puts horses in their backyard like I have for 50 years. You know, it’s it’s

[2:31:56] their backyard like I have for 50 years. You know, it’s it’s a lifestyle. And that’s why I

[2:31:57] 50 years. You know, it’s it’s a lifestyle. And that’s why I came here. So. I don’t. And

[2:32:02] a lifestyle. And that’s why I came here. So. I don’t. And any of your jobs. I like to be

[2:32:04] came here. So. I don’t. And any of your jobs. I like to be retired. But thank you. Thank

[2:32:06] any of your jobs. I like to be retired. But thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker. Good

[2:32:19] retired. But thank you. Thank you. Next, Speaker. Good afternoon commissioners. My

[2:32:20] you. Next, Speaker. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is Alexis Wilkins. And

[2:32:22] afternoon commissioners. My name is Alexis Wilkins. And I’m a property owner and

[2:32:23] name is Alexis Wilkins. And I’m a property owner and taxpayer first. Thank you for

[2:32:24] I’m a property owner and taxpayer first. Thank you for your service and your decision

[2:32:25] taxpayer first. Thank you for your service and your decision today to seek appellate

[2:32:27] your service and your decision today to seek appellate review.

[2:32:27] today to seek appellate review. >> I want you to know that

[2:32:30] review. >> I want you to know that Pine Ridge Property Owners

[2:32:31] >> I want you to know that Pine Ridge Property Owners Association does not speak for

[2:32:33] Pine Ridge Property Owners Association does not speak for all of the Pine Ridge

[2:32:34] Association does not speak for all of the Pine Ridge residents. Many of us believe

[2:32:36] all of the Pine Ridge residents. Many of us believe that 80 homes on more than 200

[2:32:38] residents. Many of us believe that 80 homes on more than 200 acres is a sensible

[2:32:39] that 80 homes on more than 200 acres is a sensible low-density compromise. What

[2:32:41] acres is a sensible low-density compromise. What concerns me is that this fight

[2:32:42] low-density compromise. What concerns me is that this fight increasingly appears to be how

[2:32:43] concerns me is that this fight increasingly appears to be how much money or value our can

[2:32:45] increasingly appears to be how much money or value our can extract from the developer at

[2:32:48] much money or value our can extract from the developer at a P o a sanctioned meeting

[2:32:49] extract from the developer at a P o a sanctioned meeting just this past Saturday.

[2:32:50] a P o a sanctioned meeting just this past Saturday. Settlement discussions

[2:32:52] just this past Saturday. Settlement discussions included compensation from the

[2:32:54] Settlement discussions included compensation from the developer acquisition of the

[2:32:56] included compensation from the developer acquisition of the golf course property and other

[2:32:57] developer acquisition of the golf course property and other potential financial benefits

[2:32:58] golf course property and other potential financial benefits to the association. At some

[2:33:00] potential financial benefits to the association. At some point, we have to ask, are we

[2:33:03] to the association. At some point, we have to ask, are we protecting Pine Ridge or are

[2:33:05] point, we have to ask, are we protecting Pine Ridge or are we using opposition to

[2:33:05] protecting Pine Ridge or are we using opposition to development as leverage to

[2:33:08] we using opposition to development as leverage to extract more the deal. Please

[2:33:10] development as leverage to extract more the deal. Please remember that we are Pine

[2:33:13] extract more the deal. Please remember that we are Pine Ridge to we are homeowners. We

[2:33:14] remember that we are Pine Ridge to we are homeowners. We are voters and we are

[2:33:15] Ridge to we are homeowners. We are voters and we are taxpayers and our voices

[2:33:16] are voters and we are taxpayers and our voices deserve to be heard. Thank

[2:33:17] taxpayers and our voices deserve to be heard. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:33:17] deserve to be heard. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next, speaker.

[2:33:31] you. Thank you. >> Next, speaker. >> Good afternoon.

[2:33:31] >> Next, speaker. >> Good afternoon. Commissioners I’ve been up a

[2:33:32] >> Good afternoon. Commissioners I’ve been up a few times to my 3 minutes.

[2:33:39] Commissioners I’ve been up a few times to my 3 minutes. I’ll ask a question during my

[2:33:40] few times to my 3 minutes. I’ll ask a question during my name is Mario Leon. I live in

[2:33:42] I’ll ask a question during my name is Mario Leon. I live in Pine own multiple properties

[2:33:42] name is Mario Leon. I live in Pine own multiple properties my parents are residents. My

[2:33:45] Pine own multiple properties my parents are residents. My parents older. They’re retired

[2:33:49] my parents are residents. My parents older. They’re retired and I take it upon myself to

[2:33:49] parents older. They’re retired and I take it upon myself to move into the area to make

[2:33:50] and I take it upon myself to move into the area to make sure that there. Comfortable.

[2:33:54] move into the area to make sure that there. Comfortable. And as they get older, they

[2:33:55] sure that there. Comfortable. And as they get older, they don’t get taken advantage of.

[2:33:57] And as they get older, they don’t get taken advantage of. I see a lot of families in

[2:34:00] don’t get taken advantage of. I see a lot of families in similar situations that might

[2:34:00] I see a lot of families in similar situations that might not have. The kits close. I

[2:34:04] similar situations that might not have. The kits close. I just have one question. And as

[2:34:07] not have. The kits close. I just have one question. And as far as everything I’ve been

[2:34:08] just have one question. And as far as everything I’ve been able to look up, I haven’t

[2:34:09] far as everything I’ve been able to look up, I haven’t seen that Gulf state of that

[2:34:10] able to look up, I haven’t seen that Gulf state of that Gulf property up for sale. It

[2:34:12] seen that Gulf state of that Gulf property up for sale. It was opened one day. Was

[2:34:15] Gulf property up for sale. It was opened one day. Was closed. Nobody had noticed

[2:34:17] was opened one day. Was closed. Nobody had noticed that was up for sale and all

[2:34:17] closed. Nobody had noticed that was up for sale and all of a sudden property developer

[2:34:21] that was up for sale and all of a sudden property developer purchased it. That’s on

[2:34:21] of a sudden property developer purchased it. That’s on record. That’s what I found

[2:34:23] purchased it. That’s on record. That’s what I found confused with. We’ve had an

[2:34:26] record. That’s what I found confused with. We’ve had an opportunity to buy think

[2:34:27] confused with. We’ve had an opportunity to buy think somebody else spoke to that

[2:34:28] opportunity to buy think somebody else spoke to that are ready. But that property

[2:34:29] somebody else spoke to that are ready. But that property everyone up for sale. It was a

[2:34:31] are ready. But that property everyone up for sale. It was a deal that was done prior. So

[2:34:35] everyone up for sale. It was a deal that was done prior. So we did have the opportunity,

[2:34:35] deal that was done prior. So we did have the opportunity, know, get the opportunity. I

[2:34:36] we did have the opportunity, know, get the opportunity. I think individual investors had

[2:34:37] know, get the opportunity. I think individual investors had they known would be here.

[2:34:40] think individual investors had they known would be here. would have jumped. We can’t go

[2:34:40] they known would be here. would have jumped. We can’t go backwards, but we can go

[2:34:43] would have jumped. We can’t go backwards, but we can go forward. I’m concerned that

[2:34:43] backwards, but we can go forward. I’m concerned that we’re using taxpayer money. To

[2:34:49] forward. I’m concerned that we’re using taxpayer money. To litigate this. I don’t envy

[2:34:49] we’re using taxpayer money. To litigate this. I don’t envy your jobs for sure. I know

[2:34:50] litigate this. I don’t envy your jobs for sure. I know it’s not easy, but the only

[2:34:53] your jobs for sure. I know it’s not easy, but the only thing as I was a tease we

[2:34:55] it’s not easy, but the only thing as I was a tease we elect you. Stewarts and we

[2:34:59] thing as I was a tease we elect you. Stewarts and we hope that you do the best

[2:35:00] elect you. Stewarts and we hope that you do the best thing for everybody. I don’t

[2:35:01] hope that you do the best thing for everybody. I don’t think. I don’t think we’re

[2:35:04] thing for everybody. I don’t think. I don’t think we’re doing that right now. And I

[2:35:06] think. I don’t think we’re doing that right now. And I think that decision is wrong.

[2:35:10] doing that right now. And I think that decision is wrong. >> Next, speaker.

[2:35:23] think that decision is wrong. >> Next, speaker. >> Chris Pine Citrus Insider.

[2:35:25] >> Next, speaker. >> Chris Pine Citrus Insider. So 5 minutes for this one.

[2:35:29] >> Chris Pine Citrus Insider. So 5 minutes for this one. >> Not open to the public.

[2:35:36] So 5 minutes for this one. >> Not open to the public. >> So the ordinances that

[2:35:38] >> Not open to the public. >> So the ordinances that organizations 5 minutes and

[2:35:39] >> So the ordinances that organizations 5 minutes and images get 3 minutes does not

[2:35:40] organizations 5 minutes and images get 3 minutes does not say that individuals can

[2:35:45] images get 3 minutes does not say that individuals can organizations. And let’s go

[2:35:45] say that individuals can organizations. And let’s go ahead. so I heard Commissioner

[2:35:48] organizations. And let’s go ahead. so I heard Commissioner State earlier that she might

[2:35:51] ahead. so I heard Commissioner State earlier that she might misheard Commissioner when he

[2:35:51] State earlier that she might misheard Commissioner when he proposed the seconds

[2:35:52] misheard Commissioner when he proposed the seconds adjustment to his motion. and

[2:35:55] proposed the seconds adjustment to his motion. and then I heard somebody say that

[2:35:57] adjustment to his motion. and then I heard somebody say that you guys on the auction change

[2:35:58] then I heard somebody say that you guys on the auction change its. I’m gonna present to you

[2:35:59] you guys on the auction change its. I’m gonna present to you the option to change its

[2:35:59] its. I’m gonna present to you the option to change its shares have the option for a

[2:36:00] the option to change its shares have the option for a motion to reconsider. It takes

[2:36:03] shares have the option for a motion to reconsider. It takes one of us to do a second one

[2:36:04] motion to reconsider. It takes one of us to do a second one to second. It’s in the new

[2:36:05] one of us to do a second one to second. It’s in the new guys. Get to reconsider the

[2:36:06] to second. It’s in the new guys. Get to reconsider the previous motion. read this to

[2:36:07] guys. Get to reconsider the previous motion. read this to you guys. If you’re not

[2:36:09] previous motion. read this to you guys. If you’re not familiar, the motion to

[2:36:11] you guys. If you’re not familiar, the motion to reconsider allows the board

[2:36:12] familiar, the motion to reconsider allows the board debate whether or not to

[2:36:14] reconsider allows the board debate whether or not to overturn a decision made at

[2:36:14] debate whether or not to overturn a decision made at the meeting that’s currently

[2:36:16] overturn a decision made at the meeting that’s currently in progress. It allows the

[2:36:17] the meeting that’s currently in progress. It allows the board to consider new

[2:36:18] in progress. It allows the board to consider new information that may affect

[2:36:18] board to consider new information that may affect the decision that’s already

[2:36:19] information that may affect the decision that’s already been made. And the

[2:36:20] the decision that’s already been made. And the commissioner to make the

[2:36:21] been made. And the commissioner to make the motion to reconsider and any

[2:36:22] commissioner to make the motion to reconsider and any commissioner can second it.

[2:36:23] motion to reconsider and any commissioner can second it. The motion is debatable but

[2:36:24] commissioner can second it. The motion is debatable but cannot be amended. majority

[2:36:26] The motion is debatable but cannot be amended. majority ruled the vote is required to

[2:36:27] cannot be amended. majority ruled the vote is required to make the motion pets. So

[2:36:29] ruled the vote is required to make the motion pets. So therefore, if you guys want to

[2:36:32] make the motion pets. So therefore, if you guys want to reconsider that Commissioner

[2:36:33] therefore, if you guys want to reconsider that Commissioner Kerik of the new information,

[2:36:34] reconsider that Commissioner Kerik of the new information, she understand commissioner

[2:36:35] Kerik of the new information, she understand commissioner can are supposing and

[2:36:36] she understand commissioner can are supposing and secondary motion. If it was

[2:36:37] can are supposing and secondary motion. If it was the calm, you guys have the

[2:36:38] secondary motion. If it was the calm, you guys have the ability to go back to that and

[2:36:41] the calm, you guys have the ability to go back to that and that would remove the taxpayer

[2:36:42] ability to go back to that and that would remove the taxpayer liability on paying for this

[2:36:46] that would remove the taxpayer liability on paying for this Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides

[2:36:46] liability on paying for this Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides suggestions you guys do that.

[2:36:47] Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides suggestions you guys do that. They can end in the same votes

[2:36:49] suggestions you guys do that. They can end in the same votes for this option. But it gives

[2:36:50] They can end in the same votes for this option. But it gives you guys reconsideration for

[2:36:50] for this option. But it gives you guys reconsideration for that. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:36:52] you guys reconsideration for that. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker.

[2:37:06] that. Thank you. Thank you. >> Next, Speaker. >> PJ off-camera, Citrus

[2:37:08] >> Next, Speaker. >> PJ off-camera, Citrus County. So from that game,

[2:37:09] >> PJ off-camera, Citrus County. So from that game, beginning of this whole

[2:37:11] County. So from that game, beginning of this whole debacle with Dick’s

[2:37:12] beginning of this whole debacle with Dick’s development in Pine Ridge. My

[2:37:16] debacle with Dick’s development in Pine Ridge. My Theory has always been that we

[2:37:17] development in Pine Ridge. My Theory has always been that we had a dri that was granted

[2:37:19] Theory has always been that we had a dri that was granted with open spaces and

[2:37:21] had a dri that was granted with open spaces and recreational spaces that

[2:37:22] with open spaces and recreational spaces that allowed a certain number of

[2:37:23] recreational spaces that allowed a certain number of homes to be built. Your

[2:37:24] allowed a certain number of homes to be built. Your actions. Whether you think

[2:37:28] homes to be built. Your actions. Whether you think they are right or wrong, took

[2:37:30] actions. Whether you think they are right or wrong, took away that option to have the

[2:37:31] they are right or wrong, took away that option to have the recreational space. And in my

[2:37:33] away that option to have the recreational space. And in my thinking, that means that the

[2:37:35] recreational space. And in my thinking, that means that the dri for Pine Ridge is

[2:37:36] thinking, that means that the dri for Pine Ridge is nonconforming. It no longer

[2:37:39] dri for Pine Ridge is nonconforming. It no longer has what was required in the

[2:37:42] nonconforming. It no longer has what was required in the open spaces and recreation

[2:37:44] has what was required in the open spaces and recreation spaces to be it. A DRA

[2:37:46] open spaces and recreation spaces to be it. A DRA development. I think you’re

[2:37:47] spaces to be it. A DRA development. I think you’re wrong in that. And I think

[2:37:49] development. I think you’re wrong in that. And I think that you choosing to fight

[2:37:51] wrong in that. And I think that you choosing to fight this, whether you win or lose

[2:37:52] that you choosing to fight this, whether you win or lose could open up future lawsuits

[2:37:57] this, whether you win or lose could open up future lawsuits with other areas that want to

[2:37:59] could open up future lawsuits with other areas that want to take away from open space or

[2:38:01] with other areas that want to take away from open space or recreational space that he’s

[2:38:01] take away from open space or recreational space that he’s been granted to them. So that

[2:38:05] recreational space that he’s been granted to them. So that they could build only certain

[2:38:06] been granted to them. So that they could build only certain number of homes. You’re

[2:38:07] they could build only certain number of homes. You’re setting a precedent and

[2:38:08] number of homes. You’re setting a precedent and saying. That this is OK and

[2:38:12] setting a precedent and saying. That this is OK and its absolutely not OK, Prime

[2:38:15] saying. That this is OK and its absolutely not OK, Prime Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of

[2:38:20] its absolutely not OK, Prime Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of the premier communities in the

[2:38:21] Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of the premier communities in the state of Florida. There are

[2:38:23] the premier communities in the state of Florida. There are people who are leaving other a

[2:38:24] state of Florida. There are people who are leaving other a question of communities to

[2:38:27] people who are leaving other a question of communities to come here because of what Pine

[2:38:29] question of communities to come here because of what Pine Ridge stands for and is. We

[2:38:33] come here because of what Pine Ridge stands for and is. We shouldn’t be fighting them and

[2:38:36] Ridge stands for and is. We shouldn’t be fighting them and fighting them with the

[2:38:37] shouldn’t be fighting them and fighting them with the developer who doesn’t have the

[2:38:38] fighting them with the developer who doesn’t have the best interest of Citrus

[2:38:38] developer who doesn’t have the best interest of Citrus County. It at heart. I

[2:38:41] best interest of Citrus County. It at heart. I sincerely hope you will

[2:38:42] County. It at heart. I sincerely hope you will consider. Reconsidering your

[2:38:44] sincerely hope you will consider. Reconsidering your votes. And just stop this

[2:38:49] consider. Reconsidering your votes. And just stop this nonsense. better than this. We

[2:38:50] votes. And just stop this nonsense. better than this. We don’t need is we don’t need to

[2:38:54] nonsense. better than this. We don’t need is we don’t need to be siding with developers who

[2:38:55] don’t need is we don’t need to be siding with developers who don’t have her best interest

[2:38:56] be siding with developers who don’t have her best interest to the right thing. Please.

[2:39:00] don’t have her best interest to the right thing. Please. Thank Thank you. Next,

[2:39:00] to the right thing. Please. Thank Thank you. Next, Speaker.

[2:39:15] >> Board Landy ahead and plan

[2:39:16] >> Board Landy ahead and plan to come back up. But I just

[2:39:18] >> Board Landy ahead and plan to come back up. But I just want to echo the sentiment of

[2:39:18] to come back up. But I just want to echo the sentiment of the last several speakers and

[2:39:22] want to echo the sentiment of the last several speakers and say go back to your original

[2:39:23] the last several speakers and say go back to your original motion. No litigation just

[2:39:25] say go back to your original motion. No litigation just don’t get involved. Correct?

[2:39:28] motion. No litigation just don’t get involved. Correct? The Dri. The amendment and

[2:39:31] don’t get involved. Correct? The Dri. The amendment and move forward with that that

[2:39:32] The Dri. The amendment and move forward with that that the sage taxpayer money. And

[2:39:34] move forward with that that the sage taxpayer money. And it gets to the issue at heart,

[2:39:36] the sage taxpayer money. And it gets to the issue at heart, which is how do we had the

[2:39:39] it gets to the issue at heart, which is how do we had the legal language to the dri to

[2:39:41] which is how do we had the legal language to the dri to put conversion so that it

[2:39:42] legal language to the dri to put conversion so that it stands and is what it needs to

[2:39:44] put conversion so that it stands and is what it needs to be. Thank you very much. And

[2:39:45] stands and is what it needs to be. Thank you very much. And again, good Luck.

[2:39:47] be. Thank you very much. And again, good Luck. >> Thank next speakers. Last

[2:39:51] again, good Luck. >> Thank next speakers. Last chance for Speaker.

[2:39:57] >> Thank next speakers. Last chance for Speaker. >> Close the public commenter

[2:39:58] chance for Speaker. >> Close the public commenter the open to the public. Since

[2:40:02] >> Close the public commenter the open to the public. Since it was mentioned, the motion

[2:40:03] the open to the public. Since it was mentioned, the motion to reconsider Commissioner

[2:40:03] it was mentioned, the motion to reconsider Commissioner Barrick. You are mistaken.

[2:40:09] to reconsider Commissioner Barrick. You are mistaken. Commissioner can order any

[2:40:11] Barrick. You are mistaken. Commissioner can order any commissioner myself. He made a

[2:40:14] Commissioner can order any commissioner myself. He made a motion. You said he would go

[2:40:14] commissioner myself. He made a motion. You said he would go back to the original.

[2:40:17] motion. You said he would go back to the original. >> His motion failed. He

[2:40:19] back to the original. >> His motion failed. He cannot be the one he cannot

[2:40:20] >> His motion failed. He cannot be the one he cannot make the same. You can’t come

[2:40:20] cannot be the one he cannot make the same. You can’t come up here and just keep making

[2:40:21] make the same. You can’t come up here and just keep making the same ocean.

[2:40:22] up here and just keep making the same ocean. >> What it feels just like I

[2:40:25] the same ocean. >> What it feels just like I could not go back to the first

[2:40:27] >> What it feels just like I could not go back to the first motion and make it because I

[2:40:27] could not go back to the first motion and make it because I made the motion and it failed.

[2:40:30] motion and make it because I made the motion and it failed. He is allowed to make a motion

[2:40:34] made the motion and it failed. He is allowed to make a motion that I made because he voted

[2:40:35] He is allowed to make a motion that I made because he voted against it first time. So you

[2:40:42] that I made because he voted against it first time. So you are, we’re confused. So that

[2:40:44] against it first time. So you are, we’re confused. So that is why was brought up motion

[2:40:45] are, we’re confused. So that is why was brought up motion to reconsider. If that’s

[2:40:45] is why was brought up motion to reconsider. If that’s something you want to do. I

[2:40:47] to reconsider. If that’s something you want to do. I will second that and I say

[2:40:50] something you want to do. I will second that and I say that because I like motion to

[2:40:51] will second that and I say that because I like motion to reconsider.

[2:40:52] that because I like motion to reconsider. >> The motion to. Spend 30,000

[2:40:57] reconsider. >> The motion to. Spend 30,000 of second. Motion by

[2:41:02] >> The motion to. Spend 30,000 of second. Motion by Commissioner Barrick second by

[2:41:05] of second. Motion by Commissioner Barrick second by Commissioner Finnegan.

[2:41:05] Commissioner Barrick second by Commissioner Finnegan. >> This is not open to the

[2:41:07] Commissioner Finnegan. >> This is not open to the public. It’s not know. This is

[2:41:08] >> This is not open to the public. It’s not know. This is that this is within the board.

[2:41:10] public. It’s not know. This is that this is within the board. So now you would discuss it

[2:41:12] that this is within the board. So now you would discuss it and then you determine whether

[2:41:13] So now you would discuss it and then you determine whether or not you’re going to

[2:41:15] and then you determine whether or not you’re going to reconsider. Thank you. And you

[2:41:17] or not you’re going to reconsider. Thank you. And you vote on that. Then if you do

[2:41:18] reconsider. Thank you. And you vote on that. Then if you do vote to reconsider than that,

[2:41:19] vote on that. Then if you do vote to reconsider than that, original motion goes away. And

[2:41:22] vote to reconsider than that, original motion goes away. And you start from scratch. And

[2:41:24] original motion goes away. And you start from scratch. And then those motions that you

[2:41:25] you start from scratch. And then those motions that you make would be entitled to open

[2:41:26] then those motions that you make would be entitled to open to the public. Okay.

[2:41:30] make would be entitled to open to the public. Okay. >> there’s a motion. A second

[2:41:31] to the public. Okay. >> there’s a motion. A second to reconsider. The last

[2:41:31] >> there’s a motion. A second to reconsider. The last motion. No discussion.

[2:41:40] to reconsider. The last motion. No discussion. >> All those in favor. Aye

[2:41:41] motion. No discussion. >> All those in favor. Aye name. opposed. Okay. Motion

[2:41:44] >> All those in favor. Aye name. opposed. Okay. Motion carries 3, 2,

[2:41:47] name. opposed. Okay. Motion carries 3, 2, >> The last motion that was

[2:41:50] carries 3, 2, >> The last motion that was well, no longer be considered

[2:41:51] >> The last motion that was well, no longer be considered as a motion. We will start

[2:41:54] well, no longer be considered as a motion. We will start again.

[2:41:55] as a motion. We will start again. >> Madam Chair commissioner,

[2:41:56] again. >> Madam Chair commissioner, can restate my position that I

[2:41:59] >> Madam Chair commissioner, can restate my position that I totally disagree with the

[2:41:59] can restate my position that I totally disagree with the judge’s order? Believe that he

[2:42:00] totally disagree with the judge’s order? Believe that he got it wrong, but I am not

[2:42:03] judge’s order? Believe that he got it wrong, but I am not willing to spend any county

[2:42:06] got it wrong, but I am not willing to spend any county taxpayer money to appeal So I

[2:42:08] willing to spend any county taxpayer money to appeal So I would make a motion that we

[2:42:09] taxpayer money to appeal So I would make a motion that we accept the ruling and will

[2:42:11] would make a motion that we accept the ruling and will move forward. Hopefully the

[2:42:12] accept the ruling and will move forward. Hopefully the arena gendered item coming

[2:42:17] move forward. Hopefully the arena gendered item coming forward to make a text

[2:42:19] arena gendered item coming forward to make a text amendment to our ldc and

[2:42:22] forward to make a text amendment to our ldc and protect decisions that are

[2:42:22] amendment to our ldc and protect decisions that are made. previous arguments.

[2:42:29] protect decisions that are made. previous arguments. >> Motion by Commissioner

[2:42:30] made. previous arguments. >> Motion by Commissioner Canard second this second by

[2:42:30] >> Motion by Commissioner Canard second this second by Commissioner Kerik. Any public

[2:42:32] Canard second this second by Commissioner Kerik. Any public comment. chance for public

[2:42:36] Commissioner Kerik. Any public comment. chance for public comment? Any further board

[2:42:39] comment. chance for public comment? Any further board discussion? All those in

[2:42:43] comment? Any further board discussion? All those in favor. Aye, any opposed.

[2:42:46] discussion? All those in favor. Aye, any opposed. should raise 5, 0,

[2:43:01] >> To

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