Agenda
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Non-Agenda Item Public Statements
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Agenda Item Public Statements
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CONSENT CALENDAR
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Various Ordinances (Clean-Ups 08.26)
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CONSENT CALENDAR PUBLIC HEARINGS
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Public hearing to consider the Planning Commission’s approval of General Plan Amendment and Zone Change No. 23-0560 and its proposed Mitigated Negative Declaration.
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Public Appeal Hearing of Planning Commission’s Approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 7451 (Phased)
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Interfund loan to complete the acquisition of 1430 and 1440 Truxtun Avenue pursuant to Council- approved Purchase agreement
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Contingency Funds for Clean Cities Special Project, $500,000 for cleanup of a major illegal dumping site
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COUNCIL AND MAYOR STATEMENTS
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ADJOURNMENT
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You can download the agenda for this meeting at www.
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bakersfield City. us. Preceding over this evening's meeting, the Honorable
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Mayor Karen K. go. Good evening. It's my pleasure to
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call it to order the 515 Regular City Council meeting
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of August 26, 2026. Madam Clerk, please call the role.
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Here. Council Member Arias. Here. Council Member Gonzalez. Here. Council
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Member Weir. Council Member Smith. I'm here. Council Member Coeman.
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Here. Council Member back here, Tash. Here. Thank you and
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welcome to all of you. Thank you, the Civic Pro.
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To not interpreter, time elects the interpreter come forward and
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very quickly let the audience know that equipment is available
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in Spanish.
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Hola, muy buenas tardes a todos. Bienvenidos a esta reunión
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el día de hoy. El día de hoy vamos a
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tener interpretación simultánea a través de la reunión para acceder
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a la interpretación si tenemos el equipo justo atrás de
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la sala para quien aún no ha recibido equipo. Cuando
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usted tenga venir a acompañarle. Thank you. Statements portion of
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the meeting you'll need to pre - register at the
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kiosks in the backstaff is there ready to assist you
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if needed. And before we begin, I'd like to acknowledge
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that PurSTAF's recommendation, Public Hearing Item 8A. That's the vesting
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tentative track map appeal. We'll be open and continue to
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the September 16th. While the today we inheld September 16th
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meeting. Tonight we have the pleasure of having
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Father Jimmy Milan, who's Vicker at St. Joseph Catholic Church
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to offer the invocation. Thank you, Father, so much for
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your service to our community. I know your church is
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actively involved in food drives and outreach. And you just
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recently performed the Westfield Beauty Money. Jen Michelle Antonio Donnie,
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who is a senior at Garthus Memorial High School will
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lead us in the pledge. Michelle is a Ford Dimension
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Dream Builder and she's here with her mentor and advisor
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Peggy. Michelle has a 4. 8 GPA.
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Wow. She's National Honor His Country Trust Soccer and Tennis.
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She's founder and president of the on - campus club
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got the dot. She's president of C. S. F. President
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of Helping Hands. Student Council President and Vice President of
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the Bass Club. She's the leader of the Healthy Committee
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and the Inrect Club. Link Glut Cancer Money Sampas Leadership
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Program. Michelle, what an incredible person you are and we're
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just so proud to have you in our community. Father,
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would you all please stand now. Let us gather for
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prayer.
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Almighty God. We give you thanks for the blessing of
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the wrist of the gifts them and there is and
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bless them as they work for the common good.
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Bless the people of Bakers Field, especially our families, our
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children. Those who are most struggling at this time may
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our city of Bakersfield continue to grow in prosperity, peace,
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and goodwill. Guide all who participate in this meeting today
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at their deliberations may bear good fruit for our community.
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Pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
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States of America. And to the Republic for which it
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stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice
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for all. Thank you. And Michelle, would you like to
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officially introduce your advisor.
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And you all make you. And Director of the Ford
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Dream Builders and Dimension Program, which I'm very excited to
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be a part of. And yeah, I look forward to
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getting to know her more throughout the course of the
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year. Thank you so much. Thank you, Michelle. Father, thank
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you so much.
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Here a few guidelines to help our meeting run smoothly.
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We request that you turn up. Applause is allowed during
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the presentations portion of the meeting only, but not during
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other portions of the meeting. Everyone in attendance or by
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phone is expected to adhere to the rules of decorum
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established by Resolution of the City Council. Failure to abide
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by the city's rules of decorum, including any disruptive behavior
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that INT meeting business first warning to everyone participating that
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conduct, that disrupts this meeting may result in expulsion and
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or the chambers being cleared. Behavior that disrupts the meeting
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includes repetitive statements, shouting, hate speech, interrupting staff or presenters
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during the meeting, speaking out of turn outbursts, or exposed
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attending Madam Clext item, please.
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Presentations item 4A, proclamation to Leslie Bloomquist and Mary Stanley
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of Baby Cafe, Monica De Los Santos of Clinica Serra
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Vista, WIC, Marissa Reyanoso Ortiz, and Katie Reynoldso of the
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Corn Breastfeeding Month August 2026.
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Thank you. Strengthening breastfeeding support and Resources promotes healthier beginnings
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for Children and families and contributes to the health and
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well - being of our community. It's my honor to
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read this proclamation. Whereas August is recognized nationally as national
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breastfeeding meeting, mother, families, and communities. And whereas breastfeeding provides
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infants with essential nutrition and protection contributing to healthy growth
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and development while also benefiting the health of mothers. And
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whereas organizations and professionals throughout Bakersfield and Kern County, including
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baby Cafe Bakersville, Gradidiac on Ebres, families with breastfeeding education,
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support, resources, and services. And whereas the city of Bakersfield
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is committed to supporting children and families within our community.
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Now therefore I, Karen Gomir, the city of Bakersfield. Do
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you hereby proclaim August 2026 as National Presidents to Rest
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Beating Education, support, and Resources. It's data this 26 -
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day of August. It's my honor to build a present
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this proclamation.
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Good evening, Mayor Council members and staff. My name is
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Marissa Reynoso and I'm the original breastfeeding community. National Breastfeeding
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Month reminds us of the important role breastfeeding plays in
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supporting the health and well - being of both mothers
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and babies.
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The American Academy of Pediatric recommends breastfeeding exclusively for the
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first six months and continuing breastfeeding alongside solid foods through
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age two and beyond. It is also a time to
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recognize the often fishing life. Their dedication, perseverance, and love
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to be celebrated and supported. Today I'm honored to stand
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alongside our partners from Clinica Sierra Vista. Baby Cafe and
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the Corneet County Breastfeeding Coalition as we work together to
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support and power and advocate for breastfeeding families throughout Bakersfield.
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Thank you again for your recognition.
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Oh, my name is Reva. I'm an IBCLC and the
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co - chair for the current county breastfeeding coalition. Our
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coalition brings together Community Partners to provide breastfeeding education, lactation
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support, resources, outreach events, and advocacy through compassionate support and
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collaboration, re - enreast feeding world breastfeed theme is rise,
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strengthen with works. So together we're strengthening families, educating and
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creating healthier beginnings for all of Kern County. And I'm
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going to pass it over to Mary.
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Good evening, everybody. My name is Mary's. My name is
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a baby Cafe. We are a nonprofit 501C organization providing
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cost - free, professional breastfeeding support to our community and
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beyond. It is imperative that we recognize breastfeeding as a
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biological norm. And create an environmental culture
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that makes it easier for others to breastfeed in public
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breastfeedings to multiple, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, who,
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which is the World Health Organization, recommend exclusive breastfeeding for
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six months and continued breastfeeding for two years as complementary
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foods are added. And you just heard that. Increasing breastfeeding
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rates is a Public Health issue.
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The more babe communists have recognizing August, 2026 is world
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breastfeeding month. And improving this proclamation. And I'm going to
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introduce, I think it's Monica. Is that right? There we
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go. Thank you. You're welcome.
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My name is Monica DeLosandra. The first thing you breastfeeding
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is healthier Future by improving outcomes for babies and parents
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alike. When we promote, protect and support breastfeeding, we strengthen
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not only individual families, but our entire community. Together, we
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are investing in the health, well - being and success
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of future generations. Thank you.
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Thank. You so much.
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Madam Clerk, next item, please. Preset 4B2
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- Jason Guerrero, President and Claudia Guerrero, Vice President of
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Gigi, the Warrior, declaring Childhood Cancer Awareness Month in Bakersfield
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during September 2026. Colleagues Childhood Cancer is one of the
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leading causes of death for children in the United States.
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Each year nearly 16, 000 children between birth and 19
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years of eight are diets, sir. No cancer cancer. It's
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my honor to read this proclamation.
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Whereas cancer knows no boundaries affecting all ethnic and socioeconomic
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groups. And whereas increase awareness and research will help educate
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the Public on early diagnosis and provide readily accessible clinical
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care to patients in need. And whereas dedicated health professional
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agent cancer, but there's children deserve the chance to dream
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big, discover new interests and live to their absolute potential
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while fighting the disease. Now therefore, I, Karen Gomer, the
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City of Bakersfield, do hereby proclaim September, 2026 as childhood
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cancer awareness month in our city and urge all residents
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of fighting to August. Been through some, sorry, you've been
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through some challenging times with Gigi and all. And so
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inviting you now to offer some. Thank you so much
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for your support.
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Good evening, Mayor Go, members of the city, Community Leader,
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Fronts, and everyone else who's here at her cancer. And
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to every your justice cancer. For our family childhood cancer
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isn't just a cause. It's our story. On February 14th
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of 2019, our world changed when our daughter, Gio, was
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diagnosed with leukemia.
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Gigi spent two and a half years going through intense
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treatment. There were difficult days, scary days, and days where
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we simply had to take things one day at a
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time. But the words like her can to watch her
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move forward. I also know that her story. Is only
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one. Their children currently fight in cancer, family sitting in
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a hospital room and parents praying for the same outcome
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that we were blessed to receive. That is why
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our awareness matters. September gives us an opportunity to make
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Chagart cancer visible to wear gold to talk about it
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to some appointments childhood candidate also represent. GG is leaving
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is living proof that there can be a life after
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Chahedher diagnosis.
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Her journey has inspired our family to turn experience into
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a purpose and to continue advocating for the Children and
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Families affected by cancer. So this September, I ask everyone
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to go gold with this, not just for Juju, but
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for every child fighting and every.
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There's a period for items listed on the meeting agenda
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and items not on the meeting agenda. Additionally, pursuant to
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changes in state law. The City Council will now accept
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Public Statements via phone and in person.
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Statements for items listed on tonight's agenda are given a
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two - minute time limit, 10 minutes for participants by
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phone. The consent calendar as a whole constitutes one agenda
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item. Statements regarding items not listed on the agenda are
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given a two - minute time limit.
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10 minutes for participants by phone and 10 minutes for
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in - person participants 20 minutes total. If you have
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written comments that are longer than your verbal statement, give
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them to the clerk who will give copies to the
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council. Kia available to select whether you're here to speak
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on an item listed on tonight's agenda or in a
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matter not on the agenda. Speakers who do not identify
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specific agenda item will be presumed speakers for the non
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- agenda portion and will be called during the non
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- agenda portion of the meeting.
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If you're here on consent calendar public hearing item 7A8A
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now is not the time to speak. You will be
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given an opportunity to speak when those items are called
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later in the meeting. Madam Clerk, do we have any
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public speakers for items not listed on the agenda. Marigo.
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We have received. Four requests. To speak by. Phone.
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And 21 requests to speak currently connected. We Alejandra Sia.
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And as you can tell by that number of speakers,
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uh, we're going to run out of time. So I
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would ask that you make your comments succinctly and we'll
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try to get in as many people as possible. Also,
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this is only our third time using this new system.
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And so if we have a few challenges, we're just
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going to give each other grace. And I hope you'll
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do that also. First speaker.
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Member. My name is Ali Hadrath with building healthy community.
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S current. We've spent years working alongside residents to cause
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biggest fields, including any spaker field to build healthier, senior
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neighborhood. We're here semantic that it was the city succeed
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in creating a general plan that for every part of
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making so not just the fear. We agree with the
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data and partners that leadership council share. The city map
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shows a nice expensive gap of up to 20 years.
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Between east and. West basics. That's how those exactly why
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this general PN update is our best chance to get
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legal strike. With them. So base this process takes success.
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We support the standalone environmental justice. Elements. We believe putting
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these goals in a dedicated aging element gift to city,
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a better path. To address these long study health camp.
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And finally, we also agree on the need for BILEGO
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DD works. Breaking technical documents into real Spanish language. Conversations
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help us continue building trust and gain real feedback. Thank
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you for your time. Thank you, Ms. Garcia. Next speaker.
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Ariel. Dyer. Ms Dyer.
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Hi. Everyone. My name is Ariel. Dyer. I am a
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li. And co - founder of. Anti - capitalist. Pearclub.
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When I attended June City Council meetings to address concern
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about the lack of transparency, oversight and Public Input regarding
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the city's contract, the surveillance technology that cities have by
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the debt of space and healthy neighborhoods committee meeting. Since
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then, that committee has been twice. But has yet approached
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the topic of flock. Meanwhile, we've been addressing it. We
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hosted a town hall last Wednesday and over 50 people
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showed up to learn more about this technology and to
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share their own concerns. City Council members mayor, vice mayor
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staff and civic chill police department were notably absent from
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this generative and informative discussion. In fact, instead of engaging
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in direct dialogue with us, BPD has been busy at
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our community. And in some cases has given them information
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that directly contradicts that they have told us. BPD allegedly
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has a policy requiring officers to include case numbers and
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FOC database queries. And yet, the laws we received show
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many entries that lack supposedly required information. According to Lieutenant
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Backbeat, the Department regularly ought to state a big churches.
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But when we submitted a CPRA request, we were told
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this is. The Public deserves transparency, a chality, and a
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voice as to what the Bakersfield Police Department and the
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city uses to monitor us. In our town hall last
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week, screws that constituents want their voices heard. Will you
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listen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dyer. Next Speaker, please.
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Just a reminder. Applause is not allowed other than during
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the presentations portion. We know that you're passionate, but we
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just ask that you be respectful. Thank you. Madam Clerk,
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next speaker, please. Council Member Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor. Uh,
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Mr. Clegg, if I can, I'm going to make a
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referral tonight that we reach out to Miss Dyer and
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have a conversation. I believe I made a referral. Over
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a year ago regarding the use of lock systems and
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the protocols. That should be established. Um, I think it's
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important that we address this concern with our community members
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and have this conversation with them. I am sorry, Mr.
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I wasn't aware of this community meeting. Um, and, uh,
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I'm sorry, I missed it. But, uh, would hope that
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the city manager can have a conversation with, uh, these
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community members. Thanks. Thank you, Councillor Memphis. Madam City Attorney
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Next Speaker, please. Marigo, we're moving on to the in
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- person speaker's next. The first speaker is Denise Gary
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Pandal. Very, Pandal, thank you
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very much. Um, I appreciate the opportunity to be here.
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Thank you. And I want to raise the issue of
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the rule of law resolution. I'm asking tonight that it
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be brought before you on the agenda. And there be
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an up and down vote. What is it concern. The
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Resolution, the rule of law Resolution for the Public who
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doesn't know.
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Has to do with the issue of sanctuary city state.
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Very concerned that you're hiding behind, I believe, political considerations
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as opposed to not putting it on the agenda and
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having an up and down vote. I remind all of
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you that you are elected to be representatives within a
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constitutional republic. And therefore have a duty under the supremacy
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clause. The supremacy clause makes clear. That federal law and
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constitutional law Trump or take precedent under local or state
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law.
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Therefore, since you all took an oath to uphold the
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Constitution, you're holding a constitutional trust as an office holder.
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Futection and safety of every individual in the community and
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their property, first enforced most. It's part of our declaration
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of independence. It's part of what our founding fathers said
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in the Declaration of Independence when he wrote that we
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are all given an alienable rights and among these are
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the right to, this is two, our Constitution. And it's
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a critical. That you put the rule of law. Thank
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you, Ms. Garrett Penny, of the agenda and have an
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up or down vote. Thank you. If not, you should
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design. Next speaker, please. Natalie Santa Maria.
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Welcome, listen to these yourself. Good afternoon. Um, my name
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is Nathalie Santamaría. I am a promotora and I'm here.
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I'm representation of my organization visioni compromiso.
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I'm here to talk about the general plan and to
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make, uh, two requests of and create with to do
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Community Forums so that we can allow Community members, especially
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those that are monolingual in Spanish to understand what the
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general plan is. The draft was being proposed and have
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an opportunity to have some input. Um, again, we're willing
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to work with the city. I know we've been very
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successful in the past. So I hope that this leads
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to speakers evocated. I know it's included some environmental justices
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included in the quality of life. However, um, link to
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SB, Senate Bill 1000, we are asking that environmental justice
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chapter standalone be created. There's a lot of this advantages
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as you've read between the east and the West average
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to the decisions that have been made. So again, we
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look forward to continuing the conversation and that collaboration with
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the cities so that we can create this forums. And
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we can also look to a way of having an
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environmental justice chapter standalone for this general plan. Thank you.
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Thank you Mr. Maria. Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.
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Welcome, please turn to dish yourself.
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Thank you. Good evening Mayor and City Council members. My
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name is Abby Power. I work with leadership council for
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justice and accountability. And the comments I'm sharing tonight reflect
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feedback from Community members. All of your support. What I
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wanted to show is a map of disadvantaged communities in
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Bakersfield. If you look at that map, you'll see that
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almost all of e - speakers - field communities are
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designated as disadvantage. According to Colin Virus Green, many of
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these Communities also face a pollution burden that is higher
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than 90 percent of all census tracks in the state.
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You'll also see that there are very few disadvantaged communities
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on the West side of the city. This map displays
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what many of you already know pollution. This health outcomes
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and lower life expectancy. According to a map in the
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city's existing conditions report, the majority of residents of e
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- speakers field have a life expectancy that's between 57
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to 78 years, which compares to a life expectancy for
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residents of West Bakersfield that is on average between 78
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to 97 years, which is a huge difference. SB 1000
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requires that the general plan consolicy plan which states maintains
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many of the plans EJ policies, but this is not
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a dedicated EJ element. And EJ policies are not woven
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throughout all other chapters. It did. The general plan also
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does not take enough meaningful action to reduce the unique
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and compounded health risks faced by disadvantaged communities, which SB
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1000 requires. So we're asking the city to show a
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commitment to reversing the harm of previous playing decisions CISES
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LEM also language workshops as participation and feedback is crucial
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to creating policies that address the needs of disadvantaged communities,
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which is a requirement of SB 1000. Soley publishing a
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technical document on the website does not do enough to
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facilitate resident input and it has not been published in
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any language other than English. Thank you. Thank you, Ms.
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Powell. Madam Clerkneck, speaker, please.
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Rod. Geiss. Oh, thank you. Uh, good evening City Council.
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Um, after July 15th, my name is Rod Geiss, G
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- U - I - C - E - Made
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call and back forum. In response at the August 5th
[44:02]
meeting, I was proud to submit a resolution by Dr.
[44:04]
Angelo Frazier to designate Bakersfield a rule of lost city.
[44:08]
And I urge the council to act on it. Unfortunately,
[44:12]
there's been no action. And this is, uh, this is
[44:15]
a little disappointing. And
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I don't know where sanctuary city policies stand or proposals
[44:29]
to answer is your opportunity to produce something tangible. It
[44:34]
avoids the waste of time, money, and resources that a
[44:37]
truth act for them would incur. It mitigates the accelerating
[44:40]
cost of sustaining a growing population of foreign nationals.
[44:54]
A rule of law city, Resolution would also show that
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we honor our veterans who fought to provide citizens, California
[45:02]
opposed sanctuary city policies such as Santa Clarita, Corona, Huntington
[45:06]
Beach, and more, as well as cities in Texas, Florida,
[45:10]
and Iowa. America is a nation of law, and most
[45:13]
citizens agree to support, defend, and abbail. This is your
[45:18]
opportunity to show the citizens that you stand with us.
[45:31]
President Ages, one more of you to please stand and
[45:35]
champion the rule of law city resolution. We the people
[45:38]
are not going away. Thank you for your service to
[45:41]
our community. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Geiss. Next speaker,
[45:44]
please. Reverend Dr. Angel Frazier.
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My name is Reverend Frazier. Thank you, council member Zach,
[46:06]
for your previous actions regarding the Pudding or Tabling of
[46:11]
the Sanctuary Policy. We are the same when I play
[46:15]
basketball in Germany. It was a GNU, that's the GNU.
[46:18]
And it means enough is enough. Current and former city
[46:28]
and state elected officials have confirmed to me or resume
[46:33]
law Resolution can help prevent that sanctuary city proposal from
[46:37]
ever returning. Have we moved so far away from the
[46:42]
fundamental principles of our Constitution that we can no longer
[46:46]
stomach the idea of the rule of law.
[46:58]
The Constitution and your oath of offers must guide less.
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I am the agenda for an up and down vote.
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Thank you for your consideration. Thank you, Reverend Frazier. Next
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speaker, please. Andrade Capolino.
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When us, my name, I'm a resident of Southwest Bakersfield
[47:36]
Ward VIN with Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability, among
[47:41]
other organizations. Social Advocate and Proud Daughter and Granddaughter of
[47:45]
Immigrants. I'm here tonight to speak to you about the
[47:48]
Bakersville General Plan. Something I love about this city is
[47:51]
the joy we have in coming together in community.
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The countless, the way we have full cities, view things
[48:05]
that instantly come to mind, trees, fresh air, walkable areas,
[48:10]
and places together in community. That is the vision I
[48:13]
have for Bakersfield.
[48:24]
Clean air is a right, not something earned. The disproportioned
[48:27]
rates of pollution and the disadvantaged areas of Bakersfield is
[48:31]
a deep concern. And to be taken seriously. Environment Concernant,
[48:36]
heart lung cancer, and more.
[48:47]
The general plan must include actions to appropriately zone the
[48:51]
city and reduce harmful pollutants as outlined in SB 1000.
[48:56]
As B - 1000 is the law requiring that the
[48:58]
general plan in cities with disadvantaged communities aimed to reduce
[49:01]
harmful pollutants associated with health risks. I ask the city
[49:05]
to commit Justice LM's opponent in the way to reverse
[49:07]
the harm in disadvantaged communities.
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I was here a few weeks ago with the ask
[49:43]
to actively engage with the Community. I thank you for
[49:45]
extending the date for Community Comment. However, at this time
[49:48]
we are still waiting for Spanish and Pujambee translations and
[49:51]
active Community Workshops and Engagement. It is also a requirement
[49:55]
of the plan to be transparent and include Community Feedback
[49:58]
or Health and the Ends can. Thank you. Thank you,
[50:00]
Ms. Andrade Capolino. Council Member Gonzalez. Thank you Mayor. Thank
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you so much for your comments tonight. And I just
[50:06]
want to thank all of the Community members who have
[50:09]
joined us this evening to talk about the general plan
[50:12]
and to offer up some of your ideas. I need
[50:15]
to do some research on some of this. But I
[50:18]
do want to say a couple of things tonight so
[50:22]
that they may make copies. I think we do have
[50:24]
copies. Perfect. Uh, because I would like to review that
[50:28]
map and respect the fact that you prepared that for
[50:31]
us. And I think the Full Council should be able
[50:33]
to review that. Thank you so much. The other thing
[50:35]
is, um, I do think that, uh, we ought to
[50:40]
prepare documents in multiple languages. We can ensure bilingual or
[50:46]
in some cases trilingual so that we can reach out
[50:49]
and have meaningful conversations with many of our stakeholders. But
[50:53]
as somebody who's been working in East Bakersfield and trying
[50:56]
to revitalize the east side for 20 years now, uh,
[50:59]
you know, this is a big passion of mine and
[51:03]
something that's dear to my heart and would like to
[51:04]
see many more in this process. Speaker, please. Klaus Valenti.
[51:26]
Welcome, please interduce yourself.
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You guys address concern all over the city. I'm not
[51:44]
necessarily anti - please, but with my experience growing up
[51:46]
in Bakersfield, I do not trust the information and mass
[51:49]
surveillance will be used ethically by our law enforcement and
[51:52]
officials. We're already seeing examples of nationwide of law enforcement
[51:55]
using Inflation recorded by flock cameras to track and stock
[51:58]
personal contacts.
[52:08]
And I don't know how I can attention of their
[52:11]
books right for privacy. Statements such as you're fine if
[52:13]
you have nothing to hide or as long as you
[52:15]
aren't doing anything wrong, you'll be fine. Are not encouraging
[52:17]
when our government is actively changing what is considered wrong
[52:20]
and unacceptable.
[52:30]
And in regard to our officials and law enforcement saying
[52:34]
flock cameras have helped them solve vehicle related crimes. Hearing
[52:37]
this is not encouraging. They can't do this of AI.
[52:40]
I'm not necessarily anti - police. I do appreciate seeing
[52:43]
if our officials and law enforcement could develop a spine
[52:45]
against float cameras moving forward. Thank you. Thank you Mr.
[52:49]
Filanti. Next speaker please. Maria Stahlcup.
[53:39]
Welcome, please turn to Deduce Yourself. Good evening. My name
[53:42]
is Maria Stalkup. I'm here to talk about flock cameras.
[53:45]
I have lived in Bakerfield for almost 20 years as
[53:48]
a private citizen. And I believe that still means something.
[53:51]
I am a private person. I raise both of my
[53:53]
sons here, worked here and kept to myself for these
[53:55]
20 years. This is the first time I've ever been
[53:58]
to a city council meeting, but I felt compelled to
[54:00]
be here issue. I've ever been arrested in Grounds. Be
[54:02]
surveilled by flock cameras. When I drive around, I see
[54:05]
endless amounts of Cyber Junk cluttering our street corners and
[54:08]
parking lots until recently I thought that I was the
[54:10]
only one who didn't understand why these were here. That
[54:13]
is until I started reading about flock. It turns out
[54:15]
that people all over the country are wondering the same
[54:18]
things that I am. Where did these cameras come from
[54:20]
and why? And growing numbers, members of the Public are
[54:23]
rejecting this technology come to City Council. Other and many
[54:26]
now neighborhood of Northwest Bakersfield from our neighborhood app. My
[54:30]
truck was stolen 41 days ago from the parking lot
[54:32]
at Home Depot on Rosedal Highway. I failed a report
[54:34]
immediately and my truck still has not been located just
[54:37]
saying these flock cameras are not all that great. The
[54:39]
flock cameras aren't really going to help normal people. They're
[54:42]
to protect businesses and sell your location data. These flock
[54:45]
cameras are BS at the lawsuit benefit stand for makes
[54:49]
me think we are a bunch of sheep that need
[54:50]
to be herded. These are the quotes that I've received
[54:53]
from this app. Overall our community members do not seem
[54:56]
to understand what flock cameras are for. Why would they?
[55:00]
They were put into place without prior approval and no
[55:02]
oversight or voting on the matter. At the very least,
[55:05]
why is the search data not being audited by the
[55:07]
city? How are we to trust our most core until
[55:10]
this surveillance like this. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Stoker.
[55:16]
Madam Clerk. Next speaker, please. Brandon Bane.
[55:40]
Talk about fluff. Since 2024 1550 cases of Misuse of
[55:47]
Flock cameras have been noted state countrywide by law enforcement
[55:52]
and on law enforcement visuals mainly used to stock X
[55:55]
- Partners, current partners and just random individuals.
[56:08]
In 2025, Johnson Howling shares roughly 6, 000 networks. To
[56:15]
locate a woman who is trying to get legal health
[56:18]
care and an abortion and another state world health that
[56:22]
is illegal. But that is legal. These cameras are invasions
[56:27]
of privacies. They are down their harassment.
[56:40]
Many of us feel like we are being constantly harassed.
[56:42]
Like we're being German Franklin of their safety either. And
[56:44]
I ask you, please do review. And honestly end our
[56:48]
contract with flock and to remove these cameras. As soon
[56:51]
as possible. Please and thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bain.
[56:57]
And Madam City clerk. Our final speaker.
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Well, please introduce yourself. Good evening. My name is Jason
[57:16]
Cipriano. Yesterday, August 25th at Norris Middle School Dismissal, Officer
[57:21]
Chrisman ID 119 cited me for parking behind a line
[57:25]
of other parents while picking up my son.
[57:41]
Before she even spoke to me, drivers who saw parking
[57:44]
enforcement arrived began erratically accelerating through the parking lot full
[57:47]
of fairs complaining the ticket, but that's not what her
[57:50]
about. I'm asking for written answer from the city manager
[57:53]
and the police chief on whether BakerShield Police Department has
[57:56]
a policy governing parking enforcement during active school dismissal while
[58:00]
children are walking between vehicles. Because yesterday, the way that
[58:04]
enforcement was being conducted didn't make dismissal any safer. It
[58:07]
caused panic drivers to accelerate through what should have been,
[58:11]
what it should. Damn it. Thank you. Thank you Mr.
[58:13]
Chapurano.
[58:32]
And so this ends this portion of our meeting. This
[58:36]
is the allotted time. You're welcome. For those of you
[58:38]
who didn't get a chance to speak to come back
[58:41]
at other meetings, to write to us, but thank you
[58:44]
for being here to participate. Metal clerk, do we have
[58:47]
any public speakers regarding items that listed consent KINIS item
[58:52]
10A? That's the Interfund Loan or New Business Item 11A
[58:57]
Clean City Special Project Funds. Now is the time to
[59:00]
speak. And the clerk will call for Speakers, but we're
[59:02]
going to, it was 11A and I didn't tell them
[59:07]
it was 11A. Okay, thank you. So go ahead and
[59:09]
sit down. We're going to let, for those of you
[59:11]
who'd like to write just for the City cleric, if
[59:15]
you heard Mr. Ologas, it's for 11A. Margot, we have
[59:24]
received. 12 requests to speak on the Consent Calendar one
[59:31]
by phone and 11 in person. And then we've received
[59:35]
four requests to speak. I apologize. Five requests to speak.
[59:43]
On new business I at 11 person. The first, it
[59:47]
looks like the individual who signed up to speak by
[59:49]
phone has not connected. We will start with the in
[59:53]
- person speakers. For the consent calendar. The first speaker
[59:59]
is Karina. Funez.
[1:00:18]
Welcome, please introduce yourself. Good evening, honorable members of the
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Bakershield City Council. My name is Karina Funes and I
[1:00:25]
am the policy manager at Blues Zone's Project Bakers Field.
[1:00:28]
On behalf of Blue Zone's Project BakerSield, I want to
[1:00:30]
express our sincere appreciation to the city of Bakersfield for
[1:00:33]
taking this important step. Towards creating healthier, safer, and more
[1:00:40]
welcoming parks for our community by moving towards Smoke Free
[1:00:43]
Parks. We are great friendship and for the collaboration with
[1:00:45]
manager's office office and our city council members.
[1:00:56]
Creating smokery parks is an important investment in the health
[1:00:59]
and well - being of Bakersfield residents. Families and visitors,
[1:01:03]
and we are excited to see our city take this
[1:01:05]
step. In 2024, Blues Zone's Project Bakersfield began conducting tobacco
[1:01:09]
letter cleanups at Parks throughout Bakersfield. Unfortunately, we found tobacco
[1:01:13]
litter at every park we visit adult park around the
[1:01:16]
most litter around benches, picnic tables, and in parking lots.
[1:01:39]
Because of what we have seen firsthand through these cleanups,
[1:01:41]
we do have one small recommendation that we believe could
[1:01:44]
help strengthen the policy and insurance intent is clear. We
[1:01:48]
respectfully ask that parking lotsby explicitly included in the language
[1:01:51]
or that including BeChange to Intections Open to however we
[1:01:56]
want to emphasize that this recommendation comes from a place
[1:01:59]
of support for the policy and appreciation for the Worth
[1:02:02]
the City has already done. We are very excited about
[1:02:05]
the direction the city is taking and are grateful to
[1:02:07]
see Bakers - Living towards healthier, smoke - free public
[1:02:09]
places. We look forward to continuing to work alongside the
[1:02:13]
city to make bakery a healthier, safer Community where we
[1:02:15]
can all Burgess.
[1:02:52]
Mayor Gus Crystal. I work into backup - prevention education.
[1:02:55]
I advise a youth coalition that advocates against tobacco and
[1:02:58]
serve as a member of the tobacco - free coalition
[1:03:00]
of Kern County. I want to be transparent about that
[1:03:03]
connection, but tonight I also want to speak from personal
[1:03:06]
experience as a mom and as a family who spends
[1:03:09]
a lot of time in Bakersfield Parks. I've been a
[1:03:12]
mom for over 10 years and our family uses part
[1:03:14]
of spending at Bakersfield Parks. I don't smoke, but my
[1:03:18]
children can still encounter second - hand smoke and tobacco
[1:03:22]
product waste when we are enjoying these spaces. Um, the
[1:03:25]
issue is especially personal to me because a few years
[1:03:28]
ago my daughter stood here in this very room as
[1:03:31]
an underage young person who purchased a vape.
[1:03:42]
She came here and advocated for stronger tobacco retail retail.
[1:03:46]
It would be proud that worked by making sidewalks athletic
[1:03:48]
fields, playgrounds, recreational areas and Public Buildings within Park's Smoke
[1:03:53]
Free. I also
[1:04:03]
asked the council to consider including parking lots and other
[1:04:06]
areas associated with these facilities to not leave the policy
[1:04:08]
open for interpretation. We see a lot of smoking and
[1:04:11]
tobacco litter in those areas as well. Please also consider
[1:04:14]
ClearSignage and cessation range and people that meet your families
[1:04:18]
can enjoy public spaces without exposure to smoke. And tobacco
[1:04:22]
was, if we can spend hours at a restaurant or
[1:04:24]
sports arena without smoking, I believe we can do the
[1:04:25]
same at our parks. Thank you for taking this important
[1:04:28]
step towards healthier cleaner parks for Bakersful Families and Future
[1:04:31]
Generations. Thank you. Thank you Ms. Burgess and all the
[1:04:34]
best to you as you go to UC Davis, young
[1:04:36]
lady. Next secret place.
[1:04:58]
Welcome, police introduce yourself. Perfect. Uh, good evening Marico and
[1:05:03]
City Council and City staff. My name is Bernardo
[1:05:12]
Ochoa and Ph. I'm here tonight as a chair of
[1:05:15]
the tobacco - free coalition of Kerrn County. I think
[1:05:18]
the basilism, which could prohibit smoking in all areas of
[1:05:21]
Public Parks. This has surely been a collaborative effort involving
[1:05:25]
our community, multiple agencies across current County. And our coalition
[1:05:29]
partners who care deeply about the places, our families gather
[1:05:32]
in play. Some of our first conversations regarding the need
[1:05:36]
for Smoke Free Parks took place with Council Member Eric
[1:05:40]
Arius. And thus safe and healthy
[1:05:50]
network. We sincerely, we encourage to see our community voices
[1:05:55]
reflected in today's propose amendments and reflecting cities ongoing commitment
[1:06:01]
creating a healthier, safer, and clear Bakersfield. So our children's
[1:06:06]
seniors and families are free from exposure to secondhand smoke.
[1:06:18]
We strongly support this proposed amendment. Changes our community.
[1:06:30]
We are proud to stand alongside the city of Bakersfield
[1:06:33]
as a longstanding partner in this worked. Did theback go
[1:06:36]
- free coalition of Kern County is committed to supporting
[1:06:39]
the Public Education, social media outreach and Community Awareness efforts.
[1:06:44]
Thank you for your leadership, your partnership, and your commitment
[1:06:48]
to making Bakersfield a healthy. Thank you, Mr. Careful. Get
[1:06:52]
it out to the council. Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.
[1:06:56]
The TCA. Levano.
[1:07:23]
This is for our council. Welcome. Buenas
[1:07:33]
tardes, mayor, consult. Mi nombre es Leticia Loevano, tengo un
[1:07:38]
negocio en el 601 Avenue Avenue. Ah, estoy aquí.
[1:07:53]
Por su unión a ser lunes hubo disparos en nuestra
[1:07:56]
cuadra. Mi oficina en el 600 Junior Avenue fue impactado
[1:08:02]
el caso, se le llamó a la policía el caso
[1:08:06]
de la Policía de Deckers, y es el 26168, 760.
[1:08:22]
Se llamó a la policía, van a entre las 10
[1:08:26]
pies del 901 Junior Avenue en la histórica union Avenue,
[1:08:32]
una ruta 99. Los
[1:08:41]
miembros, los mismos 300 pies que caminan, clientes, niños, a
[1:08:48]
diario. No estamos en contra de ayudar, estamos para proteger
[1:08:52]
nuestra cuadra. SolicitoNNONCIA horas, los siete días de la semana.
[1:09:00]
Dos, el protocolo de respuesta rápida. Tres, no acampar, merodear
[1:09:06]
a 500 pies.
[1:09:17]
Cuatro, una junta de seguridad antes aprobada. Por favor, aquí
[1:09:22]
está el expediente que yo sometí el día de ayer,
[1:09:26]
se agregue. Es todo. Muchas gracias. Thank you. And now
[1:09:31]
interpreter, please. Y puede ponerse los audífonos para escuchar.
[1:09:47]
Good evening, council. My name is Leticia Lovano, and I
[1:09:51]
have a business on 600 union Avenue. I am Heat
[1:09:54]
because of the Punitch 90 union. On Sunday, evening, heading
[1:09:59]
into Monday, there were gunfires on our blog. My office
[1:10:03]
at 600UN Avenue was HIIT. It was impacted. And we
[1:10:09]
did call Bakersfield Police Department. The case number is 26
[1:10:13]
- 168760.
[1:10:24]
Department. IEM and Fidel. This I am here to state
[1:10:33]
that this was at 300 feet from 901 Avenue. The
[1:10:37]
Historic Union Avenue on Route 99.
[1:10:48]
The same 300 feet that customers and Children walk every
[1:10:53]
day, we are not against helping Avenue 24 - 7.
[1:11:01]
24 hours a day, seven days a week. Two, I
[1:11:05]
asked for rapid response protocol. Three, no camping or loitering
[1:11:11]
within 500 feet.
[1:11:21]
And for a Public Safety Meeting before approval. That I
[1:11:26]
did PM, you also add annex E to the file
[1:11:31]
that I did submit yesterday. Thank you. Thank you, Ms.
[1:11:35]
LaVano.
[1:12:20]
Council Republic Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you Ms.
[1:12:23]
LeMo for coming today and speaking to us. Thank you
[1:12:26]
for your phone call also a few days ago foundations,
[1:12:30]
guys. Definitely think there needs to be a zero tolerance
[1:12:32]
on union Avenue. Um, we were heading the right direction.
[1:12:36]
Uh, we had BPD code enforcement. Um, and many others
[1:12:41]
out on union. And we did some proactive work to
[1:12:46]
address some of those issues. Um, but I think that
[1:12:49]
was over a year ago. And I think we need
[1:12:50]
to do, he is a shoe for, it's taken us
[1:12:54]
a long time to get to this state. It's going
[1:12:56]
to take us a while to get out of it.
[1:12:57]
But we need to start this work. Um, and I'm
[1:13:01]
encouraged by some of the investment. Uh, I know it's
[1:13:04]
a little solace to you right now given the immediate
[1:13:07]
issues. Um, but there is some private investment also in
[1:13:10]
the area. We're working with some, um, private developers, resources
[1:13:15]
of a PODO overstate the possibilities here. But we have
[1:13:19]
been working on things on the, in the background to
[1:13:21]
try to improve the condition of union avenue. Um, but
[1:13:26]
I, a hundred percent agree with you. We ought to
[1:13:29]
get, um, aggressive in this area. And I want to
[1:13:33]
make a referral tonight to the City Manager that we
[1:13:35]
bring together safety for Smevius, maybe even the Park Rangers
[1:13:40]
in some respects. Uh, that we bring them together so
[1:13:43]
that we can develop a proactive and consistent strategy to
[1:13:47]
address these issues on union Avenue. And then the last
[1:13:49]
thing is there are residents. There are business owners. There
[1:13:52]
are people in the community who really care about union.
[1:13:55]
There are families who live in and around union avenue.
[1:13:59]
Billy Avenue somewhat, uh, you know, second tier to the
[1:14:03]
rest of the city. We have to reject that notion.
[1:14:07]
And we ought to bring our community members together, business
[1:14:10]
owners, property owners, family members, residents. Let's come together and
[1:14:15]
have that safety meeting that Ms. LeBuno has recommended.
[1:14:25]
And let's have a conversation about what we can do
[1:14:28]
this. All, so thank you for being here tonight. Thank
[1:14:31]
you Madam Clerk. Next speaker, please. Denis. Gary Pandal.
[1:14:58]
Came up. It's been a mistake made by the City
[1:15:01]
clerk's office with respect to. The minutes. And it clearly
[1:15:05]
pointed out that I supported a sanctuary city status. And
[1:15:09]
that was brought to my attention the other day. And
[1:15:12]
I just wanted to make sure that the record was
[1:15:14]
corrected.
[1:15:24]
And I wanted to make it clear to the public
[1:15:27]
as I've stated before that it's a section, it's a
[1:15:32]
violation of the supremacy clause in article six of the
[1:15:35]
Constitution. And basically in light of the fact that there's
[1:15:39]
been over tens of thousands of murders, just murders alone,
[1:15:43]
not counting human trafficking. Fentanyl, uh, drugs being brought into
[1:15:48]
the country cartels.
[1:15:59]
Fraud, really integration based on the law. Um, aside from
[1:16:04]
that, I pointed out for the record during that last
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meeting we had on August 5th.
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That the good people in Washington, D. C. had made
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an effort to provide everyone who broke the law and
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entered the country illegally to have 2, 000 back to
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their... This will make justice and the Department of Transportation
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that those federal grants would be withheld and that other
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monies would be withheld from those cities in any state
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in the union that embraced a sanctuary city. I also
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made clear that it was disrespectful to the people of
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this country who came here lawfully. In the record city,
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Clarence, thank you City Clerk. Next speaker, please.
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Margo, I just want to note that we're allowing the
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additional 10 minutes since we had no phone speakers connected.
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And just encourage all of you to be a succinct
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as possible. Hello again.
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Um, Natalie Santamaría with Visión y Compromiso. And this amendment
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to prohibit smoking in part. I am here also as
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part of the tobacco - free coalition, which you all
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know that most of you know that we've been working
[1:18:28]
for many years, along with other organizations to pass several
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Resolutions. So I'm here to thank you. I know we
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presented and also on behalf of the promotors that they
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couldn't continue in that forward to looking at how enforcement
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is going to look. Um, some signage too. And the
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parts will be very helpful. And, um, some education and
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also including parking lots. Again, we're looking forward to collaborating
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on that education when something new arises right in our
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community. And we want to be as proactive as possible
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with green education in the parts, as you all know,
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she has a passion for that. So again, thank you.
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And looking forward to working with you all. Thank you,
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Ms. Central Mario. Medal clerk, we have additional speakers. Ricardo
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Del Hoyo.
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I'm a proud resident of Ward One. Shout out to
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Councilwoman Arias. Um, good afternoon to Mayor Go and Council
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members. Before I get into agenda item 6D point two,
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I'd like to take a moment and think the city
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council for extending the Public Remarks period for the 2045
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general Plan Update.
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However, after on the general, that's measurable change and action
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plans. I too hope all communities can rise together, especially
[1:20:16]
underserved communities. You see, I grew up in Bakersfield. I
[1:20:19]
attended local schools. I graduated from Cal State Bakersfield. And
[1:20:23]
although much has changed, some areas and some statistics have
[1:20:29]
not changed. Nathan, one period with lack of infrastructure. This
[1:20:34]
has been the case since I grew up. And continues
[1:20:36]
to be true today. I
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applaud the Resolution on approving the Application for the Climate
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Bond grants fund. Yes, we need more trees in downtown,
[1:20:55]
but we also need more trees outside the downtown corridor
[1:20:59]
of Ward 2. And you passed Brendage Avenue past 58,
[1:21:05]
pass Bill Terrace to truly amplify and beautify the Chester
[1:21:11]
to South Chest Recorridor with trees, greenery, and green pedestrian
[1:21:16]
corridors. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Mr. Del
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Hoyo. Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.
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Welcome. Please, Center introduce yourself. Hi, hello. My name is
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Lawrence Lacido Jr. I am a proud member of the
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Cholon Indian Nation. And I'm also here representing with tobacco
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- free current and my place of occupancy, Beckers Little
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American Health Project. Uh, we are here in support of
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the Spokebree Parks and the Ordinance that is going out.
[1:22:08]
Uh, we do... Area's a Native American tobacco is a
[1:22:14]
very spiritual and traditional medicine for us. So we do
[1:22:18]
want to make the distinction between traditional tobacco and commercial
[1:22:21]
tobacco commercialized tobacco, which is the heavily processed industrialized version
[1:22:26]
of it versus traditional spiritual tobacco, which we use in
[1:22:31]
medicine, which we use as gift. So next speakers. Josie
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Sarulo.
[1:22:52]
Please for to douce yourself. Councilmember
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Jose 600. And Letitia has run a successful business there
[1:23:08]
for over seven years. She pays taxes. Employees locals, and
[1:23:14]
wants to stay. But the constant business interruption. From the
[1:23:19]
chronic offenders is forcing her at other tenants to close
[1:23:24]
their doors. Sight
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neighborhoods. Our areas already hurting from high crime, open drug
[1:23:39]
use, vandalism, fights, threats to store workers, open sex, threats
[1:23:45]
to customers, loitering, constant storefront trouble. The list goes on
[1:23:51]
and on.
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The city cannot just fix housing for one group. Natural
[1:24:06]
job, or they will leave. And this will cause more
[1:24:09]
empty buildings in the area where half of the stores
[1:24:12]
are already shut down. True compassion requires balance. If you
[1:24:19]
move a high risk group here, you must protect us.
[1:24:32]
We demand that the conditional use permit for the 24
[1:24:37]
- 7 security guard looping our streets and alleys within
[1:24:41]
a four block radius. Second. Install high definition cameras that
[1:24:47]
link right to the police. Third,
[1:24:58]
gift security and police immediate power to remove trouble bankers.
[1:25:02]
Fourth, get businesses, owners, fast. You spring your competence without
[1:25:07]
securing our businesses first. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rivel.
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Next speaker, please, Madam Clerk. Guadalupe Silva.
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The next person, please. Magnus, lightborn.
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Well, completion to do yourself. Thank you. Good evening, Marigold
[1:25:49]
City Council members. My name is Magnus Lightborn, representing
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Ripple Fiber, California. I'm here with our chief legal officer,
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Josh Lauren. I just wanted to miss heist to the,
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uh, we'd like to do it in the most innovasive
[1:26:08]
manner as most non - invasive manner as possible. And
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I look forward to working with you guys. And thank
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you for your cooperation. Thank you, Mr. Thiper. Madam Clerknick,
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Speaker, please.
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Mayor, the next four speakers are in person. Regarding item
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11A. The first speaker is Abby Power.
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So this is on the Clean City special. I'd like
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to give my. Clerk, could you call the next speaker,
[1:27:09]
please? Thank you. Neuras, Torres.
[1:27:45]
Gracias por escuchar nuestras inquietudes y tomar en cuenta las
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necesidades de nuestra comunidad. Valoramos su atención y esperamos seguir
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trabajando juntos para mejorar nuestra ciudad. También queremos solicitar su
[1:28:03]
apoyo para que los ayude a realizar una investigación sobre
[1:28:08]
unas personas que inquietan, que vive abandona una arma. Me
[1:28:13]
gustaría programar una cita para discutir los detalles. Muchas gracias.
[1:28:18]
Thank you and interpret your police.
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Good afternoon. My name is Nodis Torres. Thank you to
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our council member Arias for listening to our concerns. We
[1:28:45]
want to talk about communa in our better our community.
[1:28:49]
We also want to ask for your support to be
[1:28:52]
able to do an investigation regarding some people who are
[1:28:57]
concerning our communities. There is a man who lives in
[1:29:00]
a lot that has been abandoned by the Community who
[1:29:03]
has a weapon. And I would like to establish a
[1:29:06]
meeting so that we can go over the. Miss. Thank
[1:29:11]
you, Noodis, for everything that you do for your community.
[1:29:14]
It was a pleasure just a little bit more than
[1:29:16]
a week ago. Being
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out there in your neck of the woods, getting to
[1:29:29]
walk the community and see all of the many challenges
[1:29:32]
that you all are navigating. And so my heart goes
[1:29:35]
out to you and I just want you to know
[1:29:36]
that we certainly hear you. And we want to do
[1:29:40]
right where your advocate for help to reconvene, I'll call
[1:29:46]
it a task force address. Addressing some of the neighborhood
[1:29:49]
level challenges in Southeast Bakersfield that we get some police
[1:29:53]
department, the city attorney's office together to meet with Nuries
[1:29:58]
to talk about some of the safety challenges there. Thank
[1:30:01]
you. Thank you, Ken Speaker, please.
[1:30:16]
Welcome, please introduce yourself. Hello, my name is Johnny Olagas.
[1:30:21]
Check the timer. I was here for something else. Actually,
[1:30:26]
flock and 11A.
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One of the issues with the dump site out there
[1:30:41]
were to find these individuals that were dumping the trash.
[1:30:45]
I am now trying to be solution - based. And
[1:30:49]
one of my proposals is instead of finding these individuals
[1:30:53]
that dump the trash, how about we open the wood
[1:30:56]
site for accepting trash. So the wood site, they open,
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I believe it's Tuesday through Saturday. From 8 a. m.
[1:31:05]
to 3. 30. My brother actually called me on Monday.
[1:31:09]
He was going to take some wood from his house,
[1:31:12]
some tree trimmings or whatever. And he couldn't get to
[1:31:14]
the wood side. He called me. He's like on Monday.
[1:31:16]
He goes, hey, is the woodside open? I said, no,
[1:31:19]
it's not. And so he's like, I don't want to
[1:31:22]
go to Beena, the linefill, right? Which you guys, I
[1:31:25]
don't know if you know Orbina is. And so what
[1:31:27]
ended up happening was my brother turned around, went back
[1:31:29]
home. Right? And he wasted his gas. And as we
[1:31:33]
know, gas is really expensive right now. So my account,
[1:31:36]
you know, I'm going to ask Zach. If you can
[1:31:38]
please look into this because we have a lot of
[1:31:42]
trees in our area, a ton of trees, uh, we're
[1:31:45]
about to go into that season where I will probably
[1:31:47]
take two trailers full of trees. Of just my art
[1:31:50]
is just a ton. So I was Zach to look
[1:31:53]
into that. Um, but I will ask, you know, I
[1:31:56]
will tell Eric, you know, as far as the, uh,
[1:31:59]
when. The camera suggests, I think that's just a terrible
[1:32:02]
idea. I think we should provide solutions and look at
[1:32:04]
why people can't take the trash or their tree trimmings.
[1:32:08]
Let's be more proactive about it. And as a community
[1:32:11]
members, um, I work in the trash industry. So that's
[1:32:14]
how, you know, so anyway, the other thing is sanctuary
[1:32:18]
city. Let's do it. You guys suck. Thank you Mr.
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Lagus and next speaker, please. Go. That was our final
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speaker. Thank you. Next item, please. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we
[1:32:38]
need a break at this point, I think. So let's
[1:32:40]
take a break for 10 minutes. And we'll be back
[1:32:45]
for more City Business.
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Let's start gathering together and if we could have staff
[1:41:27]
in the back just help to close the doors please.
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It's close enough to 10 minutes.
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Council Member Common. We're ready to start.
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Let's all sit down please so we can continue the
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meeting at 647. And Madam Clerk Would you please read
[1:42:04]
the next item. Consent calendar. A staff memorandum was provided
[1:42:12]
transmitting correct admits for item 6A1. Item 6F3 transmitting correspondence
[1:42:20]
item 6F 15 correcting the item title and also pleased
[1:42:25]
that it one contains a staff recommendation to adopt resolutions
[1:42:29]
approving salaries and benefits for specified units. Thank you and
[1:42:33]
we've had a request by Council Member Smith to poll
[1:42:38]
6C4. Is that just number two Councilmember. Okay. Thank you.
[1:42:45]
And I don't see any other requests for items to
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be poll Council Member Gonzalez. Motion to approve consent calendar
[1:42:53]
with the exception of 6C4. You have a motion please
[1:42:59]
cast your votes.
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With council member We're voting no and vice mayor corps
[1:43:29]
absent Thank you and Council Member Smith now 6C4. Thank
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you mayor this is the item that addresses the smoking
[1:43:43]
in Public Parks and I think that's a good thing
[1:43:47]
to move away from smoking in Public Parks, but reading
[1:43:50]
the original Ordinance I also noticed that it also prohibits
[1:43:55]
bicycles and unicycles and I think that all of our
[1:43:58]
children have ridden bicycles and parks and that we should
[1:44:02]
since we are kind of cleaning this ordinance up that
[1:44:05]
we can go ahead and allow bicycle unit hike hearts
[1:44:08]
So make that change to this cleanup ordinance. Thank you.
[1:44:13]
Thank you. You have a motion please catch you. Oh
[1:44:15]
Councilmember Arias. Thanks Mayor really quickly
[1:44:25]
just wanted to thank the advocates for their work on
[1:44:27]
this item They brought it back to safe and healthy
[1:44:29]
neighborhoods not too long ago made a wonderful presentation And
[1:44:34]
I just think this signifies the continued work to make
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sure Thank you so much. We explicitly call out that
[1:44:41]
our parks are also smoke - free zones I have
[1:44:45]
not had a chance to look through the entire document
[1:44:48]
itself But I would like to make that ask that
[1:44:50]
we make that explicit. Thank you. So you have a
[1:44:54]
motion to approve six C4. You have emotionally sketch your
[1:44:59]
votes.
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The motion is approved with council member We're voting no
[1:45:23]
and vice mayor corps absent. Thank you next item, please.
[1:45:37]
Consent calendar Public hearings Item 7A Public hearing to consider
[1:45:42]
the Planning Commission's approval of General Plan Amendment and zone
[1:45:45]
change number 23 - 0560 And it's proposed mitigated negative
[1:45:52]
declaration. Item 7B Public hearing to consider planning commission's approval
[1:46:01]
of General Plan Amendment Zone Change number 25 - 0
[1:46:07]
negative declaration. Thank you. It's time for the consent calendar
[1:46:11]
Public hearings as the clerk said the purpose of this
[1:46:14]
section is to vote on all the items listed under
[1:46:17]
consent calendar hearings in one motion without further comment If
[1:46:21]
anyone would like to speak on any of the hearing
[1:46:23]
items Listed the item must be removed from the portion
[1:46:27]
of this agenda If an item is removed it will
[1:46:30]
be placed at the end of the regular Public hearings
[1:46:34]
portion of the agenda. So at this time I will
[1:46:38]
open consent calendar public hearing item 7A B is there
[1:46:44]
any one of the audience who would like to request
[1:46:46]
that a hearing item be removed from the consent calendar
[1:46:49]
If so, please come forward This isn't the time to
[1:46:51]
take testimony only remove the matter from the consent calendar
[1:46:54]
hearing. Mayor Go we did receive a request to remove
[1:47:01]
item 7A. From the consent calendar Public hearings. Thank you.
[1:47:07]
And then does any council member wish to remove any
[1:47:10]
other item.
[1:47:24]
Right so at this time consent calendar Public hearing items.
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Mayor I'll make a motion to adopt Consent calendar Public
[1:47:37]
hearing item 7b. You have a motion. Please cast your
[1:47:43]
votes.
[1:48:03]
Council Member Thank. Hearings item 8A Public Hearing Public Appeal
[1:48:12]
hearing of Planning Commission's approval of vesting tentative tract map
[1:48:16]
number 7451 phased. MAntosh and associates representing Diamond Farming Company
[1:48:25]
is proposing to subdivide 40. 77 acres into 313 single
[1:48:32]
- family residential lots 1 Multi - use trail lot
[1:48:35]
and 1 Park lot R2. single located Generally southeast of
[1:48:39]
En Santa Fe way. Sierra Club appealed the Planning Commission
[1:48:42]
decision Developer Tom D. from RFG Properties Inc. requested the
[1:48:48]
Public Appeal hearing Be Opened and continued to September 16
[1:48:52]
2026 since they are negotiating a settlement with the appellate
[1:48:56]
Sierra Club. I'm sorry did we skip 7A. We'll come
[1:49:01]
back to that at the end of the hearings. So
[1:49:07]
for the Public hearings each side will be allowed 20
[1:49:10]
minutes It's 20 minutes for all speakers per side 10
[1:49:13]
minutes for in - person speakers 10 minutes for Speakers
[1:49:16]
by phone It's important that you identify yourself Make your
[1:49:19]
statements succinctly so others may speak If there's testimony on
[1:49:23]
both sides Each side will be allowed to 10 -
[1:49:25]
minute rebuttal There's clock on the TV screens behind me
[1:49:28]
which indicates 20 minutes When you're called on please identify
[1:49:31]
yourself You may ask questions during your statement But they
[1:49:34]
won't be addressed until the Public hearing is closed If
[1:49:38]
you written Comets that are longer than your verbal statement
[1:49:40]
Give them to the clerk and she'll provide copies to
[1:49:43]
the council Please be courteous to others who wish to
[1:49:45]
speak. So at this time Public hearing item 8A is
[1:49:51]
open Before we begin I'd like to acknowledge that staff
[1:49:54]
recommends that we open and continue this Public hearing to
[1:49:58]
the September 16 2026 City Council meeting pending negotiations of
[1:50:03]
the settlement while the Public can still make Public comments
[1:50:06]
today We encourage you to wait until the item is
[1:50:09]
heard on September 16 Madam Clerk Do we have any
[1:50:13]
speakers in opposition or in favor of this item? Mayor
[1:50:19]
Go we have not received any request to speak in
[1:50:21]
opposition or in favor of this item either by phone
[1:50:26]
or in person. Thank you Next item please. Don't we
[1:50:32]
need a motion to continue? Oh yes We do need
[1:50:34]
a motion to continue I would like to make that
[1:50:37]
Council Member Smith made a motion to continue this item
[1:50:41]
You have a motion Please cast your votes.
[1:50:52]
The item is approved with Vice Mayor Corps absent. Thank
[1:50:56]
you. Madam Clerk next item please.
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Item 7A. Public hearing to consider the Planning Commission's Approval
[1:51:13]
of General Plan Amendment and Zone Change Number 23 -
[1:51:17]
0560 and its proposed Mitigated negative declaration. And Clerk What
[1:51:25]
about 8B. Oh Somebody made a mistake. Alright there is
[1:51:33]
no AP. Alright we're on to 7A Council members Smith.
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Are you the one who pulled it initially? Nobody else
[1:51:43]
did. City Manager colleg. Uh Mayor and Council our Development
[1:51:48]
Services Director Phil Burns can just give a quick summary
[1:51:50]
of this Um pending any questions Um... In response to
[1:51:55]
those that wanted to have this item and discuss separately.
[1:52:01]
Council Members Uh we have in front of us is
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General Plan Amendment 230560. Property owner HEG Investments LLC Project
[1:52:09]
description is the General Plan Amendment Zone Change for 24.
[1:52:13]
86 Acres The Project intends to develop 6. 36 acres
[1:52:18]
commercial LAN on the northern person of the property and
[1:52:20]
a project intends to develop 18. 5 acres as multifamily
[1:52:24]
residential on the southern portion of the parcel. Conceptual plans
[1:52:33]
have been submitted for commercial portion But no development planted
[1:52:37]
slowing ash Revenge CECO document is an MND. Planning Commission
[1:52:47]
approved this project until I 16th No speakers in favor
[1:52:51]
or opposition at that hearing stack recommends the project has
[1:52:55]
been found consistent with your general plan policies and city
[1:52:57]
zoning ordinances requirements for these reasons city staff recommends approval
[1:53:01]
of the General Plan Amendment and zone change for Project
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23.
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So at this time Public item 7A is open. Madam
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Clerk Do we have any requests to speak on this
[1:54:01]
item. Mayor Go we've received one request to speak in
[1:54:06]
opposition to staff's recommendation. And go ahead and call that
[1:54:11]
speaker. You said draw Osby. Is that person in person
[1:54:20]
or was that supposed to be on the phone. May
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I go with the request was for in - person.
[1:54:26]
Thank you and I don't see that she is present
[1:54:28]
here. My assumption Mary GoFame is that it may have
[1:54:33]
been another item Uh... Besides this item that was made
[1:54:38]
perhaps Mislabeled. Okay Thank you. So. Does anybody want to
[1:54:45]
make a motion on this item Council Member Smith I'll
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make the motion to approve. You have a motion on
[1:54:52]
7A Please catch your votes. The hearing is closed now
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You have a motion.
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Coming from somewhere steps So if you tend to that.
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S a. Game. Yes Did you already vote.
[1:55:35]
The item is approved with Vice Mayor Corps absent. Thank
[1:55:40]
you. Next item please.
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Item 10A. Interfund loan to complete the acquisition of 1430
[1:56:01]
and 1440 Truxton Avenue pursuant to council approved purchase agreement.
[1:56:07]
Thank you Sorry Margo There was a blue memo prepared
[1:56:11]
for this item. Uh transmitting data mission.
[1:56:22]
As we jump into this item I will remind your
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council that this was before you in March of this
[1:56:27]
year earlier. Your City Council approved a purchase and a
[1:56:33]
lease and purchase and sale agreement Uh... Contingent on a
[1:56:38]
due diligence period Uh... For this site. Um... We'll walk
[1:56:43]
through the background again on this because it is a
[1:56:46]
large decision A large item. Uh... But in quick summary
[1:56:50]
Uh this project really was initiated out of an effort
[1:56:54]
to save our operating dollars to gain efficiencies. And to
[1:57:00]
Focus on a long - term solution. Uh... Aed that
[1:57:04]
we had that was Uh... Our operations.
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I'm. Having Ike in this advance.
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Thank you Mr. Marcus. So again This goes all the
[1:57:35]
way back to 2021 We did we were in a
[1:57:38]
mode where we were in the process of hiring 100
[1:57:41]
police officers as well as some support staff and the
[1:57:44]
police Department We had significant space challenges Did a space
[1:57:49]
at identified Space needs But also we did not have
[1:57:53]
the capacity at the time to address those with expensive
[1:57:58]
new build projects. And so we were in a position
[1:58:02]
where we needed to lease office space to house our
[1:58:05]
growing police Department. We also did citywide office - based
[1:58:11]
assessments in 23 and 24 Uh... But we have been
[1:58:14]
leasing space in a building that is outside of our
[1:58:18]
downtown core since 20 to 1 Those lease payments Uh
[1:58:22]
have been escalating up towards last year It was 900,
[1:58:25]
000 dollars And next year we anticipated would be over
[1:58:27]
a million dollars. For those lease payments. At the time
[1:58:32]
there was limited suitable office space in the downtown core
[1:58:35]
But yeah the council at the time approved that move
[1:58:39]
Uh out of the urgency that we had But gave
[1:58:42]
direction to try and look for long - term space
[1:58:44]
back in the downtown core at some point in the
[1:58:47]
future. So there were multiple properties test 24 5 to
[1:58:54]
think about those long - term needs. Uhm we found
[1:58:59]
that the truckston tower became a realistic option in 2025
[1:59:03]
and started Uh, the process of doing the analysis and
[1:59:07]
approaching the property owners And again There's a unique opportunity
[1:59:12]
that this move will offer us significant savings. While addressing
[1:59:16]
that long - term space needs into the future Uh,
[1:59:20]
just in summary There is an immediate savings of 350,
[1:59:24]
000 dollars a year of our operating dollars. Uh after
[1:59:28]
the payment for our internal Umd loan That would represent
[1:59:35]
a savings of more than a million dollars a year
[1:59:37]
Uh... After the 12 - year term of that loan.
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This is just to orient again Uh, council and Community
[1:59:44]
to where this location is It is the taller tower
[1:59:48]
portion as well is that Uh... Orange color They're labeled
[1:59:51]
11, and the parking garage behind it Significant parking space
[1:59:56]
Uh... To the advantage of the tenets of the building,
[1:59:59]
the city And ultimately our parking enterprise Uh... That will
[2:00:03]
make that parking available in the evenings to customers downtown
[2:00:07]
to expand our enterprise beyond our current parking garage.
[2:00:18]
Uh, this is mostly for the Public Record to just
[2:00:21]
reflect the space and where we're going to initi space
[2:00:25]
for moving into floors of office space and one floor
[2:00:29]
Uh the ground floor for some training space Uh... And
[2:00:32]
that is already subject to the least agreement as approved
[2:00:35]
by council But as we move forward with purchase Uh,
[2:00:39]
then we would still occupy that space But it is
[2:00:42]
122, 000 square foot Um... building... That allows us to
[2:00:47]
have many other tenants that help to pay for the
[2:00:49]
net operating costs of that building. And that gets us
[2:00:55]
to the rationale again It gives us the opportunity.
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Um... Manage our timing costs on our space needs... While
[2:01:15]
getting a long - term solution We don't need to
[2:01:17]
occupy the entire space Uh... We can slowly over time
[2:01:21]
as our Community grows And we have additional Um... Needs
[2:01:26]
to serve our community to potentially occupy additional space But
[2:01:30]
we don't have to... And having those... Uh... Revenues come
[2:01:35]
in to help again with our net operating cost is
[2:01:38]
a huge advantage Uh... And in particular it was the
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very expensive least Uh... Payments... Uh... That we're able to
[2:01:45]
eliminate Consolidate staffional efficiencies Uh... Again, and it is in
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the heart of downtown and positioned very close to City
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Hall Uh... That allows us to continue Uh... Move forward
[2:02:02]
in working closely together as City team And would just
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note lastly that... We were able to... Have a favorable
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Uh... Purchase price... Given some of our market purchasing the
[2:02:15]
praise and long - term tenants.
[2:02:28]
We completed our due diligence period at the end of
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July We saw no red flags There are not any
[2:02:36]
facility issues that aren't beyond what we would consider regular
[2:02:39]
maintenance Uh... We did through the process identify some of
[2:02:42]
those maintenance needs that are gonna come up in the
[2:02:45]
next 5 to 10 years And that's important Small 4
[2:02:48]
Consideration for our maintenance costs in the first year Because
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we do anticipate needing to do some maintenance in year
[2:02:55]
1 The we already had a 425, 000 dollar deposit
[2:03:01]
on this property that would go towards the purchase price.
[2:03:11]
Um... And... We were underway in the planning process that
[2:03:16]
we had the choice that we were just moving to
[2:03:19]
other least costs that were facing at the other location.
[2:03:22]
So again in short summary Uh after our due diligence
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Staff is recommending that we move forward Because there are
[2:03:29]
no issues that suggest that we shouldn't acquire the building.
[2:03:43]
A few more... I think just valuable Reflections on why
[2:03:47]
we move for the same tenants You see that there
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on the screen Uh... There are a variety of different
[2:03:54]
tenants and varying lease agreements But several of those are
[2:03:58]
also long - term tenants We do have about 21
[2:04:01]
percent vacancy The average vacancy for office space in downtown
[2:04:06]
is closer to 6 percent City - wide It's closer
[2:04:08]
to 8 percent And so we think there's work we
[2:04:11]
can go due to acquire additional tenants Uh... That would
[2:04:14]
help us continue to offset our operating costs The performer
[2:04:19]
that's before your council does not include assumptions of additional
[2:04:23]
Revenues from those leases Where he took a conservative approach
[2:04:26]
And it's based on current plus 1 That's based on
[2:04:30]
a notable letter of interest that has been... Issued Uh...
[2:04:36]
Occupy that space And so any additional space that gets
[2:04:40]
leased Only helps improve RENET Operating... Again, achieves 1, 000
[2:04:45]
dollars EVs are year. But also very importantly It preserves
[2:04:49]
a very important Uh, building in the core corridor for
[2:04:54]
trucks and... And... Preserves our economic activity downtown. Uh... And
[2:05:01]
again that phased City expansion as needed. These are numbers
[2:05:09]
that were provided in the administrative report And these are
[2:05:11]
the numbers where I'm giving you again our least pain
[2:05:14]
Ever in this coming YON Our total payments Uh... Against
[2:05:21]
this Enrefund loan would be 636, 000 dollars Which is
[2:05:26]
why I'm saying the million minus the 366 That's your
[2:05:31]
350 I rounded down 350, 000 dollars in savings every
[2:05:35]
year And those payments that were making from our capital
[2:05:41]
Um... Improvement Program each year... Free up the operating dollars
[2:05:45]
on the police side And they go towards the acquisition
[2:05:49]
of this long - term asset And so instead of
[2:05:52]
throwing money away to a lease that didn't result in
[2:05:54]
any long - term asset ThisNOW does. Um... Put us
[2:06:00]
in a position. To have acquired this long - term
[2:06:03]
asset. Lastly I noted earlier Um... That we had space
[2:06:10]
that we could continue to lease These are just some
[2:06:14]
square foot estimates And some conservative... Uh... Estimated least revenues
[2:06:20]
that could come from those additional spaces And as you'll
[2:06:23]
know that would significantly again Increase that revenue And notably
[2:06:29]
decrease the amount of capital dollars that would need to
[2:06:32]
go towards debt service each year And we feel that.
[2:06:37]
Several years into this... Um... Our Inner Fund loan That
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we're likely to be in a position Where the full
[2:06:44]
debt service is being paid by the net operating revenues
[2:06:48]
from the building. There are act front of us Uh,
[2:06:56]
there is the option to move Uh... With purpose and
[2:07:00]
to close by the end of this month. And that
[2:07:03]
would represent a significant savings 800, 000 dollars And I
[2:07:06]
don't see any reason not to move now Um... If
[2:07:08]
we chose to... Exercise our purchase option at a later
[2:07:13]
date. Uh... The price would change notably. And our deposit
[2:07:18]
again has... Uh... Already... Uh... Where passed our due diligence
[2:07:23]
period Deposit has gone hard And we would not get
[2:07:25]
that deposit back if we don't move forward Um... And
[2:07:29]
again Significant savings with the early exercise option That's... That
[2:07:34]
we're recommending in front of you. This is a lot
[2:07:38]
of numbers But we wanted to be transparent and demonstrate
[2:07:42]
What our debt service payments look like. Again This is
[2:07:46]
a 2. 5 percent interest loan over 12 years. At
[2:07:52]
this time We're using some of our Capitol Facility about
[2:07:55]
2. 5 million dollars in total And we're gonna pay
[2:07:57]
that back Uh... over the next five years to make
[2:08:00]
sure that that is restored. Um... And I probably should
[2:08:04]
have done this at the Out set I apologize I
[2:08:06]
did not. As a recommendation to use an inner Fund
[2:08:10]
loan What this means What we're doing is we have
[2:08:12]
reserves in our equipment Fund. That we're gonna borrow against
[2:08:16]
or borrowing against our own reserved dollars. But it's at
[2:08:19]
a 2. 5 percent interest rate because we don't want
[2:08:22]
to lose value that our reserves would have gained Had
[2:08:26]
they been invested in the market And so we always
[2:08:29]
invest our reserves And... This represents a five - year
[2:08:35]
average Of what our reserve interest income has been. And
[2:08:41]
that 2. 5 percent is a fair way to make
[2:08:43]
sure that we're not losing money in our reserves By
[2:08:46]
making this enterfund loan. Uh, some might question Why do
[2:08:53]
we choose this particular way of financing? Um... It's far
[2:08:57]
more cost - effective than going out and trying to
[2:09:02]
loan or bond in the private markets Because you have
[2:09:04]
to pay higher interest rates You also have to pay
[2:09:08]
transactional costs. Um... And it's endoscope. Uh... At 12 million
[2:09:13]
dollars It's in the scope that our interfund reserves can
[2:09:17]
handle Uh... We can't do larger projects that might be...
[2:09:21]
Tens of millions or 100 million dollars. But we have
[2:09:24]
a reserve Uh... That is over 100 million dollars in
[2:09:27]
our equipment Fund And we have a 54 million dollar
[2:09:31]
unrestricted reserve in the equipment Fund And so this is
[2:09:34]
about the right size for us to do A very
[2:09:37]
meaningful project That's gonna save us a lot of money
[2:09:41]
And a short timeframe Still make that... Equipment Fund whole
[2:09:45]
again. So that is our recommendation For review The City
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Council A 12. 1 Million Dollar Interfund loan. That we
[2:09:54]
were appropriate those to our Capitol Outlet Fund and appropriate
[2:09:56]
the remaining 2 million from the Capitol Facility Reserve to
[2:10:00]
our capital Outlawe Fund Uh... It's a total of 2.
[2:10:03]
5 towards this Project from the Capitol LA Fund The
[2:10:06]
other 425 is the Deposit that we already made. And
[2:10:10]
with that I'm happy to answer any questions.
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General fund and several of our other funds, but they
[2:11:33]
have to be protected only for the use of purchase
[2:11:35]
of equipment. But again, as a healthy reserve sits over
[2:11:40]
there, it's an opportunity to borrow against that from ourselves.
[2:11:44]
But because it is dedicated to a specific purpose, it
[2:11:47]
does have to be paid back with interest. So when
[2:11:50]
we say that we're saving money, we are saving money
[2:11:53]
because today we are spending money on a current lease
[2:11:58]
agreement for space that we need for big so police
[2:12:01]
department. And we pay a million dollars annually. And where
[2:12:05]
did those funds come from? Thank you, Council Member. That
[2:12:07]
is coming out of the general fund. The savings that
[2:12:10]
we're achieving is going to be to the general fund.
[2:12:12]
So we will, because we have to pay ourselves back
[2:12:17]
in these additional, these other funds, we will be saving
[2:12:21]
350, 000 dollars a year. And then in the 13th
[2:12:25]
year, then, we will be saving a million dollars at
[2:12:27]
least because these lease agreements, they don't get cheaper over
[2:12:32]
time. You know, just like my rent. It's only gotten
[2:12:36]
more expensive. You know, the lease agreement will likely be
[2:12:40]
even more expensive in the future. Is that right? That
[2:12:44]
is correct. It's a conservative savings of a million dollars
[2:12:46]
a year. It will only increase over the life of
[2:12:49]
this loan payback. So over the next 12 years, we'll
[2:12:55]
be paying 12 million dollars if we choose not to
[2:12:57]
pursue this correct. The other thing is the thing I
[2:13:01]
really like about this project is that it occupies a
[2:13:06]
building that currently has a 21 percent vacancy rate. You
[2:13:11]
mentioned the current 21 percent vacancy rate. Is that including
[2:13:15]
the anticipated use from basal police department and city. Yes.
[2:13:22]
When police occupies it, there will still be 21 percent
[2:13:26]
vacancy. Got it. But we are already having conversations with
[2:13:31]
potential tenants in anticipation of the city's purchase. Is that
[2:13:35]
right? Absolutely. And it has been actively marketed. I think
[2:13:39]
it's fair to know that. But also we feel that
[2:13:42]
as the city enters the building as the owner and
[2:13:47]
as an attendant, who look at that and make some
[2:13:52]
considerations, but we also think some potential tenants would see
[2:13:55]
that as an attractive relationship. We'll leverage all of our
[2:14:00]
relationships that we have as well to make sure that
[2:14:03]
we can fill that space as much as possible. Great.
[2:14:06]
Second to last point. Parking is a huge benefit because
[2:14:10]
parking is limited in downtown. And it is one of
[2:14:12]
the most controversial issues in downtown Bakers given its scarcity.
[2:14:19]
How much does it cost to build a parking structure.
[2:14:25]
I think Council Member Mayor and Council to build a
[2:14:27]
parking structure depends a little bit on the size, of
[2:14:29]
course. But a parking structure that would be 300 plus
[2:14:34]
stalls is a 323 stall parking garage. Could be easily
[2:14:38]
50 million dollars. 50 million dollars to build a new
[2:14:42]
structure. Correct. Yeah. That's not going to happen anytime soon.
[2:14:46]
At least with the city of Bakersville, given our current
[2:14:48]
condition. So I think this is a good move even
[2:14:51]
for that. And then my last point is. Tonight we're
[2:14:53]
also considering an item related to a vacant property that
[2:14:57]
is seen many code violations. And we know all too
[2:15:03]
well in this city what happens when buildings remain underutilized
[2:15:07]
or even vacant. And it becomes a huge liability to
[2:15:11]
the city because we have to expend resources by way
[2:15:15]
of code enforcement, police department, fire department, uh, and also
[2:15:20]
becomes just a nuisance to the surrounding community. There are
[2:15:24]
a lot of negative externalities related to some of these
[2:15:27]
buildings. Uh, then unfortunately are in the urban corps. There's
[2:15:31]
just a higher concentration. Um, and the thing that I've
[2:15:36]
always worried about is to see this building, um, fall,
[2:15:41]
uh, fall into disrepair and to see many of the
[2:15:44]
tenants leave as a result. And, um, and then the
[2:15:49]
whoever the future owner is seeing them not really caring
[2:15:53]
for this property, um, and it becoming a major liability
[2:15:57]
for all of us in this community. And so I
[2:16:00]
think this is a really big win for not only
[2:16:06]
the city of Bakersfield from a business perspective, but also
[2:16:08]
for downtown and for the future of downtown Bakersfield. So,
[2:16:14]
uh, I'm going to make a motion tonight that we
[2:16:15]
prove this. Thanks. Thank you. Council Member Bashir Tash.
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So we have to borrow, we have to be interested
[2:16:33]
on the money that we borrow from one account, Randy.
[2:16:36]
That's like a, that's a mandatory thing. Good evening. Council
[2:16:46]
member, that is really a best practice. So what we
[2:16:48]
did is we built this inner fund loan policy based
[2:16:52]
on other comparable cities. And it really is because it's
[2:16:56]
an enterprise fund. It really is the property approach. Those
[2:17:01]
funds are really belonging to the equipment fund. And so
[2:17:04]
we want to really return those dollars with what they
[2:17:09]
would have earned if they would have had to remain
[2:17:10]
in an investment fund. So that's really a best practice.
[2:17:14]
Cool. Thank you. That's, I promise you, Rayni, I want
[2:17:16]
to ask you any more questions. That was the only
[2:17:17]
one. So the, the freezing in vocabulary behind the conversation
[2:17:26]
that I just listened to was a little bit bothersome
[2:17:29]
to me because it's not our money. It's taxpayer money.
[2:17:32]
We're going to, we're going to pay interest. On tax.
[2:17:37]
We're going to pay interest with taxpayer money on taxpayer
[2:17:40]
money. For something, uh, just that just, I mean, that
[2:17:46]
makes me sick to my stomach. We're going to pay
[2:17:48]
interest on taxpayer money because we're not making money by
[2:17:52]
investing it. That just sounds so backwards to me. We're
[2:17:55]
going to take more money from the people. To pay
[2:17:58]
for the money we already took from the people. That
[2:18:02]
doesn't make sense to me. Um, this is going to
[2:18:05]
be so much more costly. It's a 1974 building. Every
[2:18:09]
year that goes by in my life and I'm not
[2:18:11]
even a building. I break down and cost more. I
[2:18:13]
can only imagine what the floor space of this, that
[2:18:16]
parking structure looks like. I think it would be very
[2:18:19]
cheap to have parking. If we twe it all down
[2:18:21]
and had a gravel a lot with striped lines, like,
[2:18:24]
you know, the current county fair would cost maybe half
[2:18:26]
a million dollars. But this is going to cost so
[2:18:28]
much money. And in a time when we're listening to
[2:18:33]
people that have businesses on union that are getting shot
[2:18:36]
up and we can't do anything to help with that.
[2:18:38]
Or we're trying to create jailbed space, but we're moving
[2:18:42]
real slow. I don't understand how we can allocate money
[2:18:45]
to anything outside of fixing the problem that is plugging
[2:18:48]
business owners that are coming here on a Wednesday night
[2:18:51]
to speak and begging for help. Uh, I just, I
[2:18:55]
don't support this. I think it's going to cost us
[2:18:58]
so much more money. I don't understand how we're going
[2:18:59]
to pay interest on taxpayer money by taking more money
[2:19:02]
from the taxpayers. Um, but those are my comments. Council
[2:19:10]
Member Coleman. Thank you, Mayor. So I wanted to
[2:19:20]
address two things. I wanted first address this inner fun
[2:19:26]
transfer. Because there's, there's people been out there talking about,
[2:19:31]
uh, how it's some kind of accounting trick or we're
[2:19:35]
doing something shady. The inner fund, first of all, that
[2:19:42]
inner fund that we're going to borrow the money for,
[2:19:46]
that's the equipment fund. Can you please tell me where
[2:19:51]
that money in the equipment fund. Comes from. Yeah, I
[2:19:56]
think you council remember. Coleman. The equipment fund, by the
[2:19:59]
way, is principally vehicles, although there are a few other
[2:20:03]
large value pieces of equipment that we include in the
[2:20:06]
equipment fund, but we're not talking about equipment like shovels
[2:20:09]
and rakes. This is high dollar value equipment. And so
[2:20:14]
that equipment, um, fund is funded by almost all of
[2:20:19]
our funds. So some of it comes from the general
[2:20:22]
fund. Some of it comes from our other enterprise funds.
[2:20:26]
But because they're coming from other enterprise funds, let's say
[2:20:28]
it comes from the water fund. Those are protected dollars,
[2:20:33]
rate payers may, you know, paid those dollars. And so,
[2:20:36]
uh, that's why we feel it is appropriate to pay
[2:20:38]
back the interest on that loan because it is a
[2:20:42]
best accounting practice to account for each of these funds.
[2:20:46]
Distinctly and openly. And I think I'll read a little
[2:20:49]
bit into your question as well, Councillor McCominay, which I
[2:20:51]
think is a good question. In our annual financial reporting
[2:20:56]
documents, we report on each of these funds independently. They
[2:21:00]
are accounted for separately independently. And those dollars are collected
[2:21:06]
from each of the other funds to buy all the
[2:21:08]
equipment we need across all of the funds. Um, but
[2:21:11]
again, uh, that is one of our funds that, of
[2:21:16]
course, it represents the value of all of that equipment.
[2:21:19]
And so we, if we had multiple large pieces of
[2:21:21]
equipment that went, you know, out. And we had to
[2:21:25]
replace those. That's where our reserves come in. But we
[2:21:28]
have a fairly healthy reserve by comparison there. And so
[2:21:32]
it is available for the inner fund loan, but it
[2:21:35]
needs to all be a documented and accounted for very
[2:21:39]
clearly that these are separate dollars. Okay. So, uh, so
[2:21:48]
first of all, this is not new to the city
[2:21:50]
of Bakersfield. That is. We've done it before. That is
[2:21:55]
correct. We have, cause I remember in the, uh, redevelopment
[2:22:01]
days, we did that. From time to time to make
[2:22:05]
some of the mill creek projects and that kind of
[2:22:08]
thing work. Uh, has all that bad money been repaid,
[2:22:12]
you know. It has, I think, as it relates to
[2:22:17]
the redevelopment fund, of course, there's, you know, when the
[2:22:20]
state shut that down, the lots of complications, uh, but,
[2:22:24]
but of the city's interfund loans, yes. All of that
[2:22:27]
has been repayback. Okay. So this is something that's, uh,
[2:22:34]
recognized, and I did a little bit of my own
[2:22:37]
research on this. I just kind of wanted to make
[2:22:40]
a comment about this because, uh, there have been people
[2:22:44]
out there saying that this is, this are accounting tricks.
[2:22:48]
And this is recognized by the California state controllers office.
[2:22:53]
And they have very strict rules on, on this, uh.
[2:23:00]
It is common for municipalities to use inner fund borrowing.
[2:23:06]
That is correct. It is very common. And also the
[2:23:08]
government finance officers association has a set of guidelines that
[2:23:12]
govern this as well as the state of California. Okay.
[2:23:15]
And then can you tell me what the balance is
[2:23:17]
and the equipment fund right now? The equipment fund balance.
[2:23:21]
Let me pull it up. Plus reminder. It's about 120
[2:23:27]
million dollars and unrestricted is about 54 million dollars. So
[2:23:33]
we're going to be taking you out of the unrestricted
[2:23:35]
amount, correct? Correct. And so what will the balance be
[2:23:38]
after we borrow the money. Sorry, Councilmember. We'll have to
[2:23:44]
Mr. McKegan, you have it off the top of your
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head, feel free. I do have it. 50, you say
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it's 54 million. We're going to borrow 12. So 42.
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Simple man. I could have done that other look at
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my notes. Oh, there's somebody to call an account. I
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guess my, my, my question then becomes, uh, we're still
[2:24:04]
going to have 40 million dollars in an account. Are
[2:24:09]
we going to need this 12 million dollars that were
[2:24:11]
borrowed any time soon? We do not believe we do.
[2:24:15]
In fact, we did some analysis and we have, uh,
[2:24:18]
have a very high level of confidence that we'll be
[2:24:21]
able to back any equipment purchases that we need to
[2:24:24]
over the full 12 years of this loan repayment with
[2:24:29]
the unrestricted balance that remains. Okay. Uh, I think I
[2:24:34]
made my point about the inner fund loan in our
[2:24:38]
fun borrowing. It's been done. We've cities of Bakersfield has
[2:24:43]
done it. Frequently in the past. Other communities, uh, California.
[2:24:51]
And outside of California, uh, use this practice to finance
[2:24:55]
deals. Um, it's a good way to do it because
[2:24:58]
you don't have to go out in the market. And
[2:25:01]
you mentioned that you would have to pay broker fees
[2:25:05]
for somebody to put a bond out and that kind
[2:25:07]
of thing. And then you would probably have a higher
[2:25:09]
interest rate. So I like the inner fund borrowing as
[2:25:14]
a tool. I like the fact that we're not talking,
[2:25:18]
putting it out there for 30 years. We're going to
[2:25:20]
pay it back in 12 years. And frankly, if you're
[2:25:24]
going to have some operating gains, then you might be
[2:25:28]
able to pay that down sooner. Uh, but I did
[2:25:31]
want to talk about the deal itself. Because in my
[2:25:36]
history of things, I've done, I've done these kind of
[2:25:39]
real estate analysis for, uh, for investment groups. And we've
[2:25:44]
gone and assessed a property to make a buyer, no
[2:25:49]
buy recommendation. And so, uh, to me, this is not
[2:25:54]
a spectacular real estate deal. You know, yeah, we'd like
[2:25:59]
to be buying it for less. But it's a solid
[2:26:03]
deal. And it's a defendable deal. And, uh, it pencils.
[2:26:11]
Uh, even without making any assumptions about being able to
[2:26:16]
knock that 21 percent big C factor down. Uh, in
[2:26:22]
the bank. And we have an appraisal. That supports a
[2:26:26]
value above the purchase price. Correct. That is correct. Okay.
[2:26:33]
There was some concern about the, uh, the high cost
[2:26:37]
of utilities, but there's been some progress on that, correct?
[2:26:40]
Yeah, I think accounts, member. That's a good question. That
[2:26:42]
is also correct. There have been some energy efficiency measures
[2:26:46]
to switch to LED lights throughout the building. But we,
[2:26:50]
there are a couple additional energy efficiency projects that we
[2:26:54]
think we could invest into further lower the energy costs.
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And I guess I wanted to make a point. We're
[2:27:03]
not buying a vacant building for us to use all
[2:27:06]
the space. So it has some preset income coming in.
[2:27:11]
From these rentals. You correct? That's correct. One point of
[2:27:15]
now rental beliesing. Yeah. 1. 4 million dollars in annual
[2:27:20]
lease income. It's significant. Which is not, is that include
[2:27:25]
the money worst bending for the lease or not? It
[2:27:27]
does not. All right. So, so this, uh, repayment can
[2:27:32]
be largely paid out of either the R least savings
[2:27:35]
or the money we earned from the billing. It can
[2:27:38]
council member for just for a sake of clarity and
[2:27:40]
transparency. There's, the other building operating expenses as you noted
[2:27:45]
the utilities and some of the maintenance and the management.
[2:27:49]
But the, the total net operating costs, um, plus the
[2:27:55]
savings from our lease, uh, elimination at the other building
[2:27:59]
is that 350, 000 dollars net savings that does come
[2:28:04]
to the city and that net operating savings helps to
[2:28:08]
pay down our, our debt service. All right. Thank you.
[2:28:11]
Um. The other point I wanted to make about is
[2:28:15]
that, uh, a lot is made about, you know, the
[2:28:20]
cost of the building. But. Municipalities typically hold these things
[2:28:28]
for 50 years or more. And when you start to
[2:28:31]
do, you know, time value and money calculations, which brand,
[2:28:35]
you can probably figure out it's a little beyond me,
[2:28:37]
but, uh, it makes that those investments a lot more
[2:28:42]
reasonable. But then we get down to, so for me,
[2:28:48]
when I, when I analyze it, I analyze first, does
[2:28:51]
it make financial sense? And to me, uh, the purchase
[2:28:56]
price, uh, the money we're going to save from lease
[2:29:01]
payments that we're currently paying other people, uh, the money
[2:29:04]
that we're going to potentially earn from, uh, rents and
[2:29:09]
parking and whatever else is there to take advantage of.
[2:29:18]
Makes that a good, a good deal for me. It's
[2:29:21]
a pencil. It pencils. It's like a good financial deal.
[2:29:24]
Then the question becomes, why should you buy it? And
[2:29:27]
then the strategic intrinsic issues that I think are real
[2:29:34]
important. And, uh, that is the location of this property
[2:29:39]
being, uh, in the, I mean, that's. The key one
[2:29:44]
there. It's on a very critical corner in our downtowns
[2:29:47]
across from the superior court. It's catty corner from City
[2:29:50]
Hall. It's in a strategic, excellent location. It gives, uh,
[2:29:57]
the city control not only that corner. Uh, but it
[2:30:01]
also gives us control 300 and some parking spaces, which
[2:30:05]
we desperately need in the downtown. It gives us a
[2:30:13]
little bit of flexibility for the city. Um, I don't
[2:30:19]
think it's our intention to take it all for us.
[2:30:23]
But it gives us the ability to scale up and
[2:30:26]
down as we have other needs. This building we're in
[2:30:29]
right now is getting pretty close to the end of
[2:30:32]
its useful life. At some point, it's going to need
[2:30:34]
to be remodeled or rebuilt or something. And it would
[2:30:40]
give us an opportunity to relocate functions that we do
[2:30:44]
here during that period of time, something for future city
[2:30:47]
councils to worry about, but it'll be a resource that
[2:30:51]
they can use. At that time. And the other thing
[2:30:56]
I was encouraged by was that in my research, I
[2:31:00]
learned that other governmental and public entities have been purchasing
[2:31:05]
property downtown. It is downtown Billy. Rather than leasing them.
[2:31:10]
And that's a critical distinction is that businesses just being
[2:31:15]
in the downtown is great. But are they leasing or
[2:31:18]
are they only these buildings? And these government agencies, uh,
[2:31:23]
the current county, superintendent schools has 1675 Chester Avenue 1200
[2:31:29]
truckston avenue, which is the old church. And the county
[2:31:33]
occurring in CAPK have 1318th street. So, uh, that's encouraging
[2:31:39]
to me when this, when these agencies are buying property
[2:31:42]
downtown, it signals, uh, faith, uh, in those neighborhoods. So,
[2:31:50]
um. So anyway, I'll get back to my point. I
[2:31:55]
think it's a fair financial deal. And it's a good
[2:31:59]
overall purchase for the city. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember
[2:32:03]
Common. Council Member Weir.
[2:32:16]
I'm a little confused here. On page nine that you
[2:32:20]
have here. It shows that.
[2:32:30]
On page nine, can you explain to me what in
[2:32:34]
the world leave savings from California Avenue space a million
[2:32:39]
dollars. That's a savings that we're achieving by not leasing
[2:32:45]
the other space or the police department has had office
[2:32:48]
space on California Avenue. Okay. So that. You're seeing we're
[2:32:56]
getting more money now. We're not having that million dollar
[2:33:02]
expense any longer. But those folks have to go somewhere.
[2:33:09]
We're going to have an expense. I mean, that building's
[2:33:12]
going to cost money. If I may, Councilmember, we're just
[2:33:16]
to clarify. That is not the training academy. I'm not.
[2:33:23]
A training account. To me. I'm just trying to figure
[2:33:25]
out. If a million dollars in here is money a
[2:33:31]
one - time deal. We're not, we're not going to
[2:33:33]
get that every 12 months. We're not going to get
[2:33:37]
savings from, from, um, California avenue space. So Council Mayor,
[2:33:44]
we're the police department is leasing on an annual basis
[2:33:49]
numerous office spaces in an office building on California Avenue.
[2:33:53]
So that is an annual expense that we're going to
[2:33:56]
get that savings every year going forward. But I thought
[2:34:00]
you were stopping that. Correct. By stopping that lease and
[2:34:06]
moving them instead into this building, we moved that million
[2:34:10]
dollars to those lease payments that are just gone each
[2:34:15]
year and into the value of acquiring this building, the
[2:34:21]
Bank of America building. Because those same dollars are paying
[2:34:25]
into repayment of that loan essentially to acquire that building.
[2:34:31]
Okay. But the way this reads is, you know, it's
[2:34:36]
projected net operating income is the minus 206, 000. Right.
[2:34:42]
Correct. Then there's a savings. So we don't have to
[2:34:47]
pay them lease anymore. So as many dollars there. Correct.
[2:34:53]
Okay. And then it comes down. And then the next
[2:34:55]
year, we're not going to have savings from that. We
[2:35:00]
will. How will we. Because it's an annual payment to
[2:35:08]
the other building. We'll have to pay a million every
[2:35:11]
year. Every year it's another million dollars to that other
[2:35:14]
building. Okay.
[2:35:25]
Okay. Maybe I'm confused. We're buying a building and we
[2:35:29]
already have a building. We don't own the other building.
[2:35:33]
We're just leasing it. I know. And that's what's confusing
[2:35:36]
me. We were releasing it. Boom. The lease is over.
[2:35:43]
Now we're on our own. It's a million dollars. Okay.
[2:35:48]
So we have that savings. But that doesn't continue on.
[2:35:54]
We don't get a mean, 12 million dollars for 12
[2:35:58]
years. I suppose if I could put it a different
[2:36:02]
way, Councilmember, we're, if we stayed at the other building,
[2:36:06]
we would pay a million dollars every year. What I'm
[2:36:14]
trying to say is. For one, the first year you're
[2:36:17]
going to get a million dollars because you're not paying
[2:36:19]
that. You're not paying that at all. Correct. The next
[2:36:23]
year you're going to say that you're going to pay
[2:36:26]
that. You're not going to pay it again. Or you're
[2:36:28]
going to bed again. We're not going to pay it.
[2:36:32]
Okay. So. We're not going to have a million dollars
[2:36:37]
in here as income. We're not going to have that
[2:36:40]
the next year. I'm doing my best council member, but,
[2:36:48]
uh, I would just reiterate that is an ongoing savings
[2:36:51]
every year.
[2:37:02]
It's ongoing same. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make
[2:37:12]
any sense whatsoever we're going to pay this off and
[2:37:15]
pay a million box. We're not going to, we're not
[2:37:17]
going to get that money on million dollars every year.
[2:37:23]
So and then we're going to take that money. Do
[2:37:27]
whatever we want to, but it's not going to be
[2:37:29]
a savings of a million dollars every year. It's a
[2:37:33]
one shot deal. One year deal.
[2:37:44]
Again, I feel like I've answered this question best I
[2:37:46]
can. It isn't annual savings. Okay. Well, maybe in yours,
[2:37:53]
but in the real world. You get one million dollars.
[2:37:57]
The next year you don't get a million dollars. You
[2:38:00]
have to pay it. In the whole thing is just
[2:38:05]
ridiculous. Council membersmith. Thank you
[2:38:15]
Mayor. I think the city beggars field has been fiscally
[2:38:24]
responsible over the years. With various city councils. And I
[2:38:30]
think that this purchase is very similar to what past
[2:38:36]
city councils have done. Our existing planning building department are
[2:38:42]
in a building that we purchased. That was already built.
[2:38:46]
City hall north. Is a building that we purchased that
[2:38:51]
was. Already built. And it's been 20 some years since
[2:38:55]
we bought that building. Do you, I know you weren't
[2:38:57]
here, but do you know any details on that. Mr.
[2:39:02]
Helen has done some of that homework. I believe it
[2:39:04]
was purchased in 1993 for 13 million dollars. I thought
[2:39:08]
it was early 2000 or 2000s. Okay. How that compares.
[2:39:13]
Yeah, I did some research. So in 2005, it was
[2:39:17]
purchased for 13 million. 13. So 21 years ago 21
[2:39:21]
years ago, it's half the size. And we paid 13
[2:39:24]
million. And so we're getting 21 years later. We're getting
[2:39:30]
twice the building. For the same amount of money. Correct.
[2:39:34]
Seems like a good deal to me. Ownership to me
[2:39:39]
is always better than leasing. I mean, leasing. As was
[2:39:46]
stated goes on forever. In 12 years from now, we
[2:39:49]
would continue to pay that million, probably me and two,
[2:39:54]
million three by then. And instead of paying that out
[2:39:59]
as lease payments, we now own the building. And that
[2:40:04]
may and two, main three can go to hire more
[2:40:07]
police. So I think it's a great deal. And I
[2:40:12]
appreciate. Staff working on it. And I'm in favor of
[2:40:16]
it. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Arias. Thank you,
[2:40:20]
Mayor. Um, thank you to staff for all the work
[2:40:23]
that they've done on this, uh, I think it's a
[2:40:25]
great opportunity. I just have a couple of comments, but
[2:40:29]
I would like to ask whomever was a part of
[2:40:31]
the team who kind of did the walkthroughs and did
[2:40:34]
the due diligence work, taking the tours, uh, taking a
[2:40:40]
look at all of the deferred maintenance. If I could
[2:40:41]
ask you to come to the mic. Would love to,
[2:40:46]
to learn more about what that deferred maintenance, um, investigation
[2:40:51]
looked like, uh, what were the findings. Looks like it's
[2:40:56]
just me. So, uh, we actually received direction in closed
[2:41:01]
session to have, um, external vendors come in and look
[2:41:06]
at all of the, everything. Uh, and we did, we
[2:41:13]
used, um, we used several vendors to look at elevator's
[2:41:18]
roof, windows, all of our systems. Plumbing electrical. I believe
[2:41:25]
we had 11 different vendors come through and look through
[2:41:29]
the building between end of March, uh, all the way
[2:41:33]
up until July. There were some, some concerns that we
[2:41:39]
saw coming through the building, because as was stated, it's
[2:41:43]
a 50 year old building, right? So there's going to
[2:41:46]
be some things that do need to be fixed, but
[2:41:49]
nothing that wasn't, uh, that was a red flag as
[2:41:53]
city manager, Claire said nothing that couldn't be fixed over
[2:41:56]
the next, uh, five years, 10 years that we could
[2:42:00]
schedule in regular CIPs over time. So, um, some of
[2:42:05]
the things that, uh, we said, Hey, these, these are
[2:42:09]
really big fixes. Uh, we did go back to the
[2:42:12]
seller. Uh, during that period of time between, uh, July
[2:42:17]
and coming back to council. And we had some more
[2:42:20]
negotiations to say, Hey, these are some very large items.
[2:42:25]
We would like you to come down on price because
[2:42:27]
those are going to be heavy costs. Uh, for us,
[2:42:31]
uh, that we need to consider over the next five
[2:42:32]
years, 10 years. Uh, and so we did get a
[2:42:35]
deduct and we showed that in the presentation, um, today.
[2:42:39]
So partly we feel that those ongoing maintenance things we
[2:42:45]
can solve over the next, uh, five years. We have
[2:42:49]
an excellent property manager. So the property manager is mill
[2:42:54]
Atkinson's MD Atkinson's group. They had been property manager there
[2:42:58]
for, I don't know, as long as anyone can remember,
[2:43:02]
they know that building, uh, really well. And we've already
[2:43:06]
started to work with them to try to address some
[2:43:10]
of the immediate things that we can get done before
[2:43:12]
we move in. So, um, hopefully it answers your question.
[2:43:16]
I would just add two quick items as Mr. Helen
[2:43:19]
pointed out. It's been professionally managed over the years. And
[2:43:23]
so they've had a robust maintenance schedule. They've kept up
[2:43:25]
on the regular maintenance. They have about a half million
[2:43:29]
dollars a year in just maintenance costs. That's, you know,
[2:43:33]
typically, um, expended, you know, keeping up on things. And
[2:43:38]
when we talk about things that, you know, repairs we
[2:43:41]
know will need to happen in the next five to
[2:43:43]
10 years. There aren't deferred things that have fallen behind.
[2:43:46]
They're just the useful life of the elevators. We know
[2:43:50]
is going to be, you know, up at a certain
[2:43:51]
point. But that's, that's the price of owning and building
[2:43:54]
is you're going to have to, every once in a
[2:43:55]
while, replace a roof every once in a while, we're
[2:43:58]
replacing elevator. And nothing is beyond its regular life cycle.
[2:44:02]
We just know in the next five to 10, we're
[2:44:04]
going to have some of those replacements to make. And
[2:44:08]
I'll just point out that it was just last summer
[2:44:11]
that we had to replace, uh, several elevators in city
[2:44:14]
all north. This is standard practice for owning any asset
[2:44:18]
or building. Um, so I appreciate that. I know that
[2:44:22]
there were some out in the community that had questions
[2:44:23]
about due diligence and the deferred maintenance. So I appreciate
[2:44:28]
you stepping in, Gary, to share that with us. Um.
[2:44:32]
I would just like to make a comment that, you
[2:44:35]
know. We have a responsibility to a certain degree to
[2:44:39]
make sure that, uh, we are, uh, ensuring that these
[2:44:45]
properties, especially these larger buildings, uh, do not lay vacant
[2:44:50]
for very long. In 2009, I'm reminded that, uh, it
[2:44:55]
was, uh, previous council that stepped up, um, when the
[2:45:00]
Padre Hotel fell short by almost 2 million dollars, uh,
[2:45:04]
during their construction and renovation project, a multimillion dollar project,
[2:45:09]
uh, they had tapped out all other financing, uh, mechanisms.
[2:45:14]
And they had, nobody to look to other than the
[2:45:17]
city of Bakersfield. And the city Bakersfield and the council
[2:45:20]
at that time stepped up and, uh, borrowed money from
[2:45:24]
the federal government to actually make good on that shortfall
[2:45:28]
for the property owner. Um, and so I shared that
[2:45:31]
because this is not something new to this council. This
[2:45:34]
is not something new to this administration for the city
[2:45:37]
of Bakersville. This is something that, you know, previous councils
[2:45:39]
have done to get creative, to innovate, um, and to
[2:45:43]
continue to fight for downtown Bakersfield. So, uh, with that,
[2:45:47]
I'm happy to join my colleagues in supporting this item
[2:45:50]
tonight. Thank you, Council Member Aryas. I don't see any
[2:45:54]
additional request to speak. So you have a motion by
[2:45:57]
Council Member Gonzalez to support staff's recommendation. Please catch your
[2:46:01]
votes. The motion is approved with council
[2:46:10]
members. We're in Bashirtash voting no and vice marcor absent.
[2:46:15]
Thank you. And next item, please. New business item 11A
[2:46:22]
contingency funds for clean city special project, 500, 000 dollars
[2:46:26]
for cleanup of a major illegal dumping site consisting of
[2:46:29]
50 acres located in the southeast south of Brook Street,
[2:46:34]
east of Hail Street and adjacent to East Plans Avenue.
[2:46:38]
Mr. Clegg. Thank you, Mayor and Council, Mr. Gary Helen.
[2:46:41]
We'll present this item. All right. Um, so Council Arm
[2:46:47]
Gonzalez talked briefly about this. There are several very large
[2:46:52]
chronic nuisance properties in the city. Um, we have a
[2:46:56]
clean city's team that focuses on many of those chronic
[2:47:01]
nuisance properties. Clean cities. Not only focuses on properties that
[2:47:06]
are of major issue, but also, you know, in our
[2:47:09]
right away and other areas. But, uh, this has been
[2:47:13]
one that they are code enforcement, a rapid response, all
[2:47:17]
of the teams have been focusing on over the last
[2:47:21]
several years. In fact, um, to date, I don't know
[2:47:26]
the exact number, but I know we've had multiple rounds
[2:47:29]
of cleanup from our code enforcement team of this site.
[2:47:33]
And as you will see through the presentation, it's just
[2:47:37]
band - aids over at bowl hole. They're making small
[2:47:41]
dents and trying to do some cleanup here. But, uh,
[2:47:44]
the scale and the condition of the site is getting
[2:47:47]
to a point where it's becoming a real health and
[2:47:50]
safety risk. And so that's why we're before you, uh,
[2:47:53]
tonight. Um, the other thing I want to add is
[2:47:59]
there, the images you're seeing are because of our excellent
[2:48:03]
drones, uh, the talk about cameras and drones. I mean,
[2:48:07]
I'm a believer in technology. So I believe that let's
[2:48:10]
use it if we have it. Our water department has
[2:48:13]
some incredible drones because they need them, uh, to monitor
[2:48:16]
and manage our water facilities. So they've helped us out
[2:48:20]
taking some still shots of some of the most difficult
[2:48:24]
areas. I will say the majority of this, uh, debris
[2:48:30]
is probably construction debris is what I would call it,
[2:48:34]
whether it's, um, I don't think we'd have, we have
[2:48:37]
too much, uh, wood debris. There was a comment about
[2:48:40]
the wood debris out there. There are some wood debris
[2:48:44]
out there, but mostly construction. You'll see. Uh, chunks, massive
[2:48:49]
chunks of asphalt. Massive chunks of concrete. So instead of
[2:48:54]
going to the dump, they use the site. You'll see.
[2:48:58]
Palettes. You'll see drywall. You'll see a boat. You'll see,
[2:49:03]
uh, abandoned cars. You'll see abandoned trailers. So it's, um,
[2:49:08]
again, one of our, one of our largest efforts. And
[2:49:12]
it's been difficult for the private property to defend it.
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And we'll talk a little bit more about, um, our
[2:49:20]
work with the private property owner. And, uh, and he's
[2:49:23]
here tonight. Representatives are here tonight as well. I think
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another major issue on this site is there are a
[2:49:31]
large number of people living there. This is where they
[2:49:34]
call home some of these drone images you'll see where
[2:49:38]
they've created these, um, tents and shanties and, and villages,
[2:49:44]
uh, which that's a very unsafe place to, to call,
[2:49:49]
uh, a place of, of home there. So part of
[2:49:53]
this cleanup is a coordinated effort, uh, with making sure
[2:49:58]
that homeless resources are brought out there. So these people
[2:50:00]
can, can be moved off. On the appropriate way. Just
[2:50:09]
a little bit on clean cities. There's probably seven departments
[2:50:13]
that are hands - on in this effort. So I
[2:50:18]
think it's probably the largest multi - department effort that
[2:50:22]
we've got in the city. Uh, I'm proud of those
[2:50:25]
teams. I know we did a larger presentation to council
[2:50:28]
previously on what's going on there. But that image to
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the right, um, is, uh, really probably the most, um,
[2:50:39]
inhabited part of that area. And it's right in the
[2:50:42]
heart of, of, uh, some of the parcels. And we'll,
[2:50:45]
we'll zoom out to some of the, some of the
[2:50:47]
maps. But these teams work very well together. I will
[2:50:50]
say the coordination is excellent. Uh, impact team or BPD
[2:50:54]
team is working well with, uh, rapid response. They have
[2:50:58]
co - response teams that work hand in hand and
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solid waste, um, is right there with them. Again, we've
[2:51:03]
got a river water department that helps us park rangers
[2:51:10]
or helping. And then we've got our outside partners. With,
[2:51:13]
um, other vendors that come and help on private jobs.
[2:51:17]
And then obviously a property owners. So this is the
[2:51:22]
effort that we're asking to undertake with some of these
[2:51:28]
funds that we're asking to come out of contingencies. Obviously
[2:51:31]
we need to remove the debris and, and help remove
[2:51:34]
the homeless, um, we need to make sure that we're
[2:51:38]
continuing to take appropriate steps and appropriate measures. Obviously the,
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this is going to happen over time. This is not
[2:51:46]
going to happen tomorrow. We're not going to run out
[2:51:48]
there and do this. Um, if approved, but it'll take
[2:51:51]
some time to tee some of this stuff up. Um,
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and then lastly, uh, the biggest problem is people can
[2:51:59]
just drive in here and I'll show you some of
[2:52:01]
the, the sections of the maps where this is why
[2:52:05]
construction debris is on this site is because people just
[2:52:08]
drive their trucks in and, and unload here. And so
[2:52:11]
we've got to pinch those off and put barriers there
[2:52:14]
in some of these locations. And we've got kind of
[2:52:17]
a plan and a map that, that outlines. Up. So
[2:52:22]
this is that some of those maps. So to, to
[2:52:26]
share a little bit of where this is. So this
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is, we're calling it our East plan site because it's
[2:52:32]
basically as far east as you can go on plans
[2:52:34]
before you get to the, uh, treatment plant too, um,
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it's right next to hail. Hell street and brook street.
[2:52:44]
It's just east of cottonwood or South MLK. And some
[2:52:49]
of these barriers that we've been able to track down
[2:52:53]
is actually through our code through our public works department
[2:52:57]
has done a killer job of finding about a hundred
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sticks of KRO, which is about 2000 feet. We would
[2:53:04]
need to procure that with some of this money. That
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we're asking to be set aside, uh, we've worked with,
[2:53:11]
um, the property owner and they have agreed to put
[2:53:13]
in some gates. Um, at some of these difficult points,
[2:53:17]
uh, there's already some berms there. So if you're saying,
[2:53:20]
why aren't we just putting the whole thing with electrified
[2:53:23]
fence and K rail, we just don't have that much
[2:53:25]
money. But some of the berms provide a barrier. The
[2:53:32]
other site that's just south of this isn't really not
[2:53:35]
saying this is an area that needs to be cleaned
[2:53:37]
up, but it's an access almost like a highway to
[2:53:41]
get to this dumping site. And so this is a
[2:53:44]
little further south. It's south of Brooklyn. You can see
[2:53:50]
goes dead ends right into the middle of this site.
[2:53:52]
But we've identified K rail and barriers and gates. Part
[2:53:58]
of having gates there, you may be asking that question
[2:54:02]
because fire, uh, fire does need to get into this
[2:54:05]
site. And so it'll, they'll have knocks boxes on it.
[2:54:08]
So fires the only one can access it if they
[2:54:11]
need to put out fires. They're in the middle of
[2:54:12]
this site. Uh, they'll be able to, um, access it
[2:54:16]
again, fire was a part of this team to help
[2:54:18]
us identify appropriate, uh, locations. So this
[2:54:28]
is the funding and the plan. Um, we're asking for
[2:54:32]
500, 000 dollars. To make a really big dent in
[2:54:35]
this health and safety, um, area. This is a referral
[2:54:39]
from council member RAS to set aside some money and
[2:54:42]
contingency funds. And, um, really to partner with the property
[2:54:46]
owner, um, the key point as part of this is
[2:54:51]
whatever resources we're spending, we are going to lean the
[2:54:54]
property owner. Uh, we've told property under this, this is
[2:54:58]
part of what we do is ultimately, if there's a
[2:55:02]
transaction and they sell those lanes are paid off. And
[2:55:05]
so we do recoup our money when there's a transaction
[2:55:09]
that's a part of this. So, um, there's one piece
[2:55:14]
of property that's an outside area owner. And then the
[2:55:17]
rest of the, uh, property is, is owned by Mr.
[2:55:20]
Sarah. So, um, some of these liens, you know, if
[2:55:25]
transacted on, could be repaid, which is, which is a
[2:55:28]
good thing for us. To recoup some of this investment.
[2:55:32]
Uh, obviously there needs to be ongoing enforcement after this.
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And so that again is a part of the plan
[2:55:39]
for this, this major site. Able to answer any questions.
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Thank you, Mr. Helen. Mr. Clegg, do you have any
[2:55:46]
further comments? Thank you, Mayor. I do not. Thank you.
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And, uh, Madam City clerk for the record council member
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where has left, he loved it eight PM. Council Member
[2:55:58]
Aryas. Thank you, Mayor. Um, thank you, Gary, for the
[2:56:03]
presentation and thanks for, we call Gary, our quarterback or
[2:56:07]
our head coach, uh, for all of the major master
[2:56:09]
planning and development that's happening out in MLK Boulevard. And
[2:56:12]
he's just been amazing with every, uh, punch that has
[2:56:17]
thrown our way. Gary's ready for it. So, uh, definitely
[2:56:21]
appreciate you, Gary. Last Tuesday, uh, I was out at
[2:56:27]
this property. Went there around 730. Nuries, who was here
[2:56:33]
earlier today, uh, made comment about some other issues that
[2:56:35]
we're having in the neighborhood walked it with me and
[2:56:38]
actually organized a good group of about 12 different residents.
[2:56:44]
And imagine this, you walk behind your property into what
[2:56:48]
should be your backyard. And you've got mountains of debris,
[2:56:53]
uh, concrete, uh, just spread everywhere. You've got homeless encampments
[2:56:58]
all around. In fact, there was about, you know, six
[2:57:02]
or so dogs, uh, that were trying to chase the
[2:57:05]
softer property. Um, and as we walked deeper into, uh,
[2:57:09]
this, uh, essentially dump site, uh, we were actually getting
[2:57:14]
yelled at by some of the individuals who were homeless.
[2:57:19]
And requesting that we get off of their property. Can
[2:57:24]
you imagine that. As a property owner, if your house
[2:57:28]
is just a rocks throw away. From where you're at.
[2:57:33]
Uh, that was the reality, uh, for so many of
[2:57:35]
these individuals, uh, later that evening, uh, there was actually
[2:57:39]
a vehicle, uh, that drove up, right beside us. Uh,
[2:57:43]
they waived right past us. Um, and they, I thought
[2:57:46]
that they were going to pull into their backyard, uh,
[2:57:50]
instead they pulled into one of the homeless enchantments. So
[2:57:52]
there are vehicles in use. There are vehicles that are
[2:57:56]
out of use that have been dumped on this site,
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uh, it's, it's out of control. Um, and there are
[2:58:01]
certainly other hotspots in ward one and in Southeast Bakersfield.
[2:58:08]
Nothing quite like this. Um, and so I would just
[2:58:11]
ask that this, uh, council take this into serious consideration
[2:58:15]
that, you know, this is not just an investment on
[2:58:19]
this particular property, but actually I see this as an
[2:58:22]
opportunity for us to, uh, procure some of the materials
[2:58:26]
and equipment that we're going to be able to need
[2:58:28]
to prevent future dumping, because we know that as soon
[2:58:32]
as we block off this particular 40 acres, uh, folks
[2:58:36]
are going to go somewhere else. And so I hope
[2:58:39]
that we have our teams ready as soon as we
[2:58:42]
bait this. We're going to have to prepare for, um,
[2:58:46]
where folks are going to go next in order to
[2:58:48]
dump. I might also add, uh, that also towards the
[2:58:52]
end of last Tuesday as we were, um, getting ready
[2:58:56]
to finish the conversation. There was a, uh, clearly a
[2:59:00]
company vehicle who had just gotten done dumping. Just a
[2:59:05]
few moments before we were able to actually see them
[2:59:06]
do get caught in the act. So, um, it's an
[2:59:11]
ongoing problem. Um, I think that, uh, there are certainly
[2:59:14]
some things that we could do better on the enforcement
[2:59:17]
side of the problem. I'm grateful to chief Stradden. We
[2:59:24]
had a great conversation about some of the ways that
[2:59:26]
we can tackle from an enforcement standpoint, but certainly in
[2:59:31]
order to move projects forward, I'm going to see growth
[2:59:36]
out in Southeast Bakersfield. This is going to be one
[2:59:39]
of the essential steps in order to make that happen.
[2:59:42]
So with that, I would like to move approval of
[2:59:45]
this item. And looking forward to any questions or comments
[2:59:48]
for my colleague. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Aryas. Council
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Member Beshir Tash. Is this city property or is this
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owned by a private person slash company. It is private
[3:00:05]
property. And why is the city spending the rest of
[3:00:08]
the taxpayer money on to help one person in his
[3:00:11]
property. Council member, I think that's a good question. Typically
[3:00:16]
when we have large appetites like this that pose a
[3:00:19]
public health and safety risk will do code enforcement action
[3:00:24]
abate the property and then assess the costs to that
[3:00:29]
property that we're taxpayer costs to later be recovered. So
[3:00:33]
I have like 10 acres down by Cal State LA,
[3:00:37]
just vacant land. As soon as the grass gets over
[3:00:39]
like a certain height, I get a letter in the
[3:00:40]
mail threatening thousands of dollars that they're going to cut,
[3:00:43]
put a lean on my property and take my property
[3:00:45]
away. If you're just thinking about all the mom and
[3:00:48]
pops that are closing doors, just got notice of a
[3:00:50]
grocery circle is in my ward because of this, I
[3:00:53]
don't understand why we're spending. We're going to spend a
[3:00:54]
half a million dollars to clean up. Um, with all
[3:00:57]
due respect, I mean, if you buy a peace property,
[3:00:59]
you should take care of it. I would hate to
[3:01:01]
call the city if someone's dog pooped to my front
[3:01:04]
yard and made the city come pick it up. Am
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I, am I missing something? Was this, what are we
[3:01:12]
doing? Why are we on the hook for this? I
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don't understand. Again, council member three different thoughts. One, this
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is at the council discretion whether or not to allocate
[3:01:22]
additional dollars to go and, uh, pursue this abatement. We
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don't have the money in our budget to do an
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abatement of this size proactively to then assess it against
[3:01:33]
the property. And so, uh, this would front load that.
[3:01:38]
But that's subject to the purview of the council. Number
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two, uh, we have, to some of your points, we've
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done, um, much of the same things you mentioned. We've
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sent letters. We've done code enforcement, you know, actions on
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this property. But they're at a certain point there is
[3:01:58]
a public good need to do some of these large
[3:02:02]
abatements to ensure that, you know, these type of conditions
[3:02:04]
don't continue. But, and I've sort of already mentioned it.
[3:02:08]
But lastly, uh, ultimately it is the property owners responsibility.
[3:02:13]
We're stepping in for the public good to make that
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happen more quickly. And again, try to recover those costs
[3:02:19]
later. So this is a hundred percent. The owner's responsibility
[3:02:23]
to do. That is correct. Might I just add, I
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think there is an enforcement aspect that I think, uh,
[3:02:30]
that it is appropriate for us to, um, to aid
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in and assist in, but it is the property owner
[3:02:37]
responsibility. Yeah. I mean, I, I definitely feel because, you
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know, we deal with, I mean, they go out and
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if they arrest every homeless person there, they're going to
[3:02:44]
be in and out of laredo the same day. And
[3:02:46]
we're going to be dealing with the same problem. But
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that's despite, that's besides the point because every other business
[3:02:50]
owner that gets terrorized by these people that we seem
[3:02:53]
to not be able to deal with, uh, because we
[3:02:55]
don't have the money to deal with them, um, they
[3:02:57]
have to pay to fix their businesses. That lady who
[3:02:59]
got her business window shot out probably had to pay
[3:03:01]
for her window to be repaired. This sets such a
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dangerous. Precedence as a council for the rest of the
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city. I mean, that's, this scares me. I mean, I
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could only imagine what would come down the dupe when
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any other business. I mean, I spend 360, 000 dollars
[3:03:19]
a year in private security to deal with this kind
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of stuff. It would. I have nothing else to say.
[3:03:29]
I mean, I'm just, I'm kind of shocked.
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Membersmith. Thank you, Mayor. So I want to explore the
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lean idea a little bit. So you said there will
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be a lien on the property. Yeah. I mean. Mr.
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Burns can probably speak to it. Codenforce been on a
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regular basis brings their liens to council. And I think
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monthly. Yeah. That's what I was going to say every
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time we've got them 40 millions, thousand bucks a piece.
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That's every councilman significant. So it's very similar situation. We
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do it all the time. We go out and we
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clean up property and we put a lien on it.
[3:04:20]
That's correct. But I mean, this obviously is much more
[3:04:26]
substantial. We big one. So. This is future development property.
[3:04:33]
Yes. And so if they come in with a final
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map, I mean, I'm trying to visualize how this lean
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is paid back is that as you sell a house,
[3:04:45]
as you record maps, is it all one shot? But
[3:04:49]
how do we really visualize how it's getting paid off.
[3:05:02]
The liens get placed on the actual how it would
[3:05:07]
roll to some subdivision? I'm not sure how that would
[3:05:10]
play out. Um. You know. This is kind of a
[3:05:13]
typical process of a good enforcement case. If you think
[3:05:17]
about like our demo on Chester Avenue, same thing. Very,
[3:05:20]
very sizable wague seeds our budget funds to do an
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action. So, um, I guess I see this like similar
[3:05:31]
to others, large cleanups that we have. Um, not exactly
[3:05:37]
sure how a track map would impact funding or if
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that would, uh. Have to ask a title person how
[3:05:46]
that would work out. Well, I mean, do we, the
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question is, do we expect it to be paid back
[3:05:51]
all at once or as it's parceled out. We typically,
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uh, our liens are not paid back all at once.
[3:06:01]
And often they're part of a payback pool. That just
[3:06:05]
get, you know, that comes in in smaller increments over
[3:06:08]
time. Well, I mean, typically it's random lots here everywhere.
[3:06:13]
But if this is one, so then anyway, food thought,
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as, as it gets subdivided, how are we going to
[3:06:21]
work through that. Um, but the point is, is it
[3:06:25]
will get paid back. It's developed. And it's got a
[3:06:32]
lot better chance of being developed if it's cleaned up.
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The access, you mentioned there's berms. I mean, it looks
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like from the picture, yeah, I could just drive my
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dump truck on plans road, but there is, I didn't
[3:06:47]
see a picture. Yeah. We, we didn't show pictures. So
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there are berms all along those other access. Yeah. So
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you, uh, I think the significant berms on the very
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east side, you can see that there's that road. So
[3:07:05]
adjacent. If you, if we zoomed out a little bit,
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you'll see that we have our farm, one of our
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farm. Right to the east. Just to the east. So
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you see that, that road, that's it on that side.
[3:07:18]
And then on plans, there's also a burn. Oh, okay.
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So the K rail is so that. All along plans
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is difficult access because of the berm. It's just the
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roads that go through that we need to. The section
[3:07:36]
that's in that northwest corner is where people are entering
[3:07:40]
now. You can drive along the very western edge. Down
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and then loop down. Or you can just, uh, get
[3:07:48]
in immediately. And then head over on the east side.
[3:07:52]
So. Is there existing signings? I mean. That is part
[3:08:01]
of. What's going to be added in part of its
[3:08:04]
education. If it looks like a dump, it must be
[3:08:06]
a dump and I go take my stuff there. You
[3:08:09]
know, I mean. If there's no signing saying, you know,
[3:08:13]
the real dump is at this other location. We can
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certainly add that to the project that's easy to post
[3:08:22]
signs. Uh, we did just, um, a few weeks ago
[3:08:25]
got the no trespassing. And so we'll be installing those
[3:08:30]
trespass passing signs with this project as well. Great. Well,
[3:08:38]
I think it's a good investment. We're going to get
[3:08:39]
paid back and we clean up the neighborhood. And move
[3:08:44]
it forward just like we do. All the other property
[3:08:47]
abatements that we see. It's just a different scale. So.
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Good work. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Smith. And city
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clerk Councilmember where his returned and he returned at 809.
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Council Member Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor. Um, okay. So I
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appreciate in the presentation. You said the cleanup alone will
[3:09:08]
not solve the problem because that had been on my
[3:09:10]
mind for a few days now. Um, the last thing
[3:09:13]
I want us to do is try to bait the
[3:09:15]
property only to see this problem continue. Um, and, and
[3:09:19]
have us, you know, back here again, trying to resolve
[3:09:21]
this issue. Um, I just need to clarify. I thought
[3:09:24]
I heard there's two properties. That are problematic. Or. All
[3:09:30]
town go back. Between this map. And so there's actually
[3:09:35]
five parcels that are in between these two maps. So
[3:09:39]
there's two parcels on this map. There's the northern parcel
[3:09:44]
that is adjacent to each plans. And then if Brooke
[3:09:48]
kept going, you'd see that there's that parcel that's just,
[3:09:52]
um, above Brooke. And as we go to this, so
[3:09:57]
this is just south of that, uh, Brook Street. So
[3:10:01]
between Brooke and White and between white and it's the
[3:10:04]
end of that map. Um, those are, there are three
[3:10:08]
more parcels in that section there. Okay. So with all
[3:10:12]
those five parcels, how many unique different property owners are
[3:10:17]
there? I believe there's two owners. Yeah. Two unique owners.
[3:10:21]
Okay. And one owner has been responsive or have they
[3:10:25]
have both been responsible. So one owner is here tonight
[3:10:27]
at this meeting and a one owner is been very
[3:10:31]
difficult to, uh, be engaged with. And so this 500,
[3:10:37]
000 is to address all parcels. All five parcels. It's
[3:10:42]
to address. All five parcels related to being able to
[3:10:46]
get into this site more to make it impenetrable. And
[3:10:51]
then the majority of the cleanup is here on the,
[3:10:54]
on these two parcels. That's where the majority of where
[3:10:58]
the homeless are living where most of the dumping has
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occurred. There is some dumping on these two parcels, but
[3:11:06]
the lion's share of what the team has assessed and
[3:11:11]
some of the, uh, bids that we're starting, not bids,
[3:11:14]
uh, evaluation that we've gotten from some of the teams.
[3:11:18]
It's in this, these two parcels is the word most
[3:11:22]
of the dumping's medicuring. Okay. Got it. Okay. Because, you
[3:11:25]
know, typically when we have chronic nuisance properties, the reason
[3:11:28]
why they're chronic nuisance properties is because the property owner
[3:11:33]
has been unresponsive for extended period of time code enforcement
[3:11:39]
has done a great job trying to address the issue,
[3:11:43]
trying to cite the property owner much to Mr. Beshurtashi's
[3:11:47]
point with his experience and properties in LA. Code of
[3:11:51]
forcement does that, but still the property owner remains unresponsive
[3:11:55]
does not do anything with the property. And so it
[3:11:58]
leaves the city with no other choice, but to take
[3:12:01]
some sort of action. Because without that action, there's such
[3:12:07]
a negative impact to the surrounding neighborhood, to the poor
[3:12:11]
residents like Mr. Aryes'constituent. And they end up having to
[3:12:17]
pay that negative externality. By being impacted by all of
[3:12:21]
these things that happen on this property. So ultimately the
[3:12:25]
city has to respond through code enforcement. The issue here
[3:12:30]
is that the cost to mitigate, to address this problem,
[3:12:38]
far exceeds the code enforcement's budget to address these issues.
[3:12:42]
And that's why this item is coming today. This is
[3:12:45]
not unique to the city. I mean, city does this
[3:12:48]
stuff all the time. But what is unique is the
[3:12:52]
dollar amount for this particular property. And I think that's
[3:12:56]
the, that's the challenge that I'm trying to kind of
[3:12:59]
wrap around in my head because I'm not sure. Just
[3:13:04]
as a policy matter. I'm not quite sure
[3:13:14]
as a policy matter given the fact that we have
[3:13:16]
a responsive property owner, um, how we should best proceed.
[3:13:22]
You know, one of the ideas that we've initiated a
[3:13:28]
few years ago that I think is one of the
[3:13:30]
best ideas for the city of Bakersfield is this receivership
[3:13:33]
program is allowing for us to bring in the courts
[3:13:37]
to help us take, make some action on these properties.
[3:13:40]
And we've done some good work in my ward. And
[3:13:43]
actually throughout the city now, because of that tool, uh,
[3:13:46]
to address some of these chronic nuisance properties. But here,
[3:13:48]
um, that's not the case. Let me ask you a
[3:13:52]
couple more questions before I throw out some ideas. One
[3:13:55]
is, um, have we spent some time observing the rate
[3:14:00]
at which the construction debris has accumulated the property. Um,
[3:14:08]
I think, you know, code, code monitors this property. And
[3:14:16]
they would be the best, um, answer that. Um, I,
[3:14:21]
I know in the last four years that we've been
[3:14:24]
talking about this property, um, it has ebbed and flowed
[3:14:28]
because of code has taken certain actions to reduce some
[3:14:32]
of that construction debris. And then it just comes right
[3:14:35]
back. And I don't know the, how fast it comes
[3:14:38]
back and the frequency. And when are the peaks and
[3:14:43]
valleys of that? I'm not sure. But we can, we
[3:14:45]
can research that. It would be helpful to know because
[3:14:47]
I mean, pretty nasty photos. It's awful looking. But is
[3:14:53]
that after a year? Is it after a week? Is
[3:14:56]
it after a month? It would be helpful to know
[3:14:59]
really the severity of the issue. Because there are some
[3:15:03]
other steps that weren't listed here that I think we
[3:15:06]
ought to take. Number one is, you know, we invested
[3:15:09]
significantly. This council has invested in bulky waste cleanups. Uh,
[3:15:16]
in doing mobile cleanups and mobile pick are, what do
[3:15:19]
we call it? Mobile pickup mobile locations drop off. Thank
[3:15:22]
you. Thank you. Uh, but you know, again, part of
[3:15:26]
our clean city initiative, uh, we have more services now
[3:15:30]
available to residents than I think ever. We need to,
[3:15:36]
I like Mr. Logi's comment. We need to be more
[3:15:41]
proactive in our effort to do outreach to these, um,
[3:15:46]
construction companies. And also, um, I would like us to,
[3:15:52]
perhaps has already been done, but I would like us
[3:15:54]
to spend some more time. On site. Either through private
[3:16:01]
security, existing private security contract or by staff, uh, to,
[3:16:07]
to monitor those, uh, bad actors and to, in real
[3:16:12]
time, provide them some education of what the appropriate process
[3:16:17]
is that this, in fact, is not a dumping site
[3:16:20]
to Mr. Smith's comment earlier. But the last thing I
[3:16:28]
think is that. This really is about economic development. This
[3:16:33]
really ultimately, what we want to do here is not
[3:16:35]
just clean up the site. If we zoom out from
[3:16:39]
a city council perspective, what we really want to see.
[3:16:43]
And we really want to see with all of these
[3:16:46]
chronic nuisance properties. Is a better and higher use of
[3:16:49]
that property. What we want to see on this particular
[3:16:53]
property, all these parcels are new construction, new homes, housing
[3:17:00]
development. We want to see, um, families living on these
[3:17:03]
properties. Ultimately that is the solution. So the question now
[3:17:07]
in my mind is how do we get there. How
[3:17:09]
do we get to that development. Obviously this particular. Problem
[3:17:19]
is a real burden, a barrier to, uh, to see
[3:17:23]
that property developed. And so from my lens, I don't
[3:17:27]
see this as a response to a nuisance. In the
[3:17:31]
way of code forcement. I really see this as an
[3:17:33]
economic development tool. So similar to what we do with,
[3:17:38]
um, tax increment financing, for example. Where again, there is
[3:17:41]
a president set. Where we may offer a certain incentive
[3:17:49]
to a developer. Because we know that over the course
[3:17:55]
of the. Project that their revenue generated by a better
[3:18:01]
use through property tax increases will allow the city to
[3:18:06]
actually recoup those funds in the future. That's the way
[3:18:10]
I kind of take a look at this project. And
[3:18:12]
so I understand there may not be, you know, I
[3:18:16]
know that there may not be a TIFF mechanism for
[3:18:20]
this particular development, this particular use. I know that is
[3:18:25]
it, the EIFDs. Typically are related to. Public infrastructure investments
[3:18:32]
and specifically for affordable housing. Um, so I'm not sure
[3:18:35]
the good mechanism yet that the state has provided, uh,
[3:18:39]
four cities. But I think that through that lens, I
[3:18:43]
can see us pursuing this strategy. You know, again, for
[3:18:48]
the purposes of economic development. So yeah, I'll support it.
[3:18:56]
Thanks. Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez. Council Member Coleman. Thank
[3:19:06]
you, Mayor. So I have similar policy matter concerns about
[3:19:12]
this. First of all, is this the same property that
[3:19:23]
the more partners were here about last meeting where they
[3:19:26]
had spent money and then, you know what I'm talking
[3:19:32]
about. Yeah. Let me go there. That's, that's the property
[3:19:36]
that they. Okay. So they already spent money cleaning this
[3:19:40]
up. And then the offenders went and dumped more stuff
[3:19:45]
on there. Correct. All right. So is there a breakdown?
[3:19:51]
I don't, maybe you showed it to me. Maybe I
[3:19:53]
missed it. Is there a breakdown. Of, uh, how does
[3:19:57]
500, 000 dollars. Is going to be spent? Did I
[3:20:01]
see that in there? Did I miss that? No. Um,
[3:20:05]
I think there's, uh, kind of multi pronged approach. Uh,
[3:20:10]
we don't have like a line item budget in this
[3:20:13]
presentation. But based on the teams recommendation, obviously barriers will
[3:20:20]
be of a cost, um, it's we have an excess
[3:20:24]
of 200 trucks, truckloads of, uh, how, how many trucks
[3:20:29]
have to go to the dump to put this where
[3:20:31]
it, where it belongs. So that's really the majority of
[3:20:34]
the cost. I mean, the barriers are some cost. Uh,
[3:20:38]
getting the, the, uh, heavy machinery out there. To, to
[3:20:43]
move, you know, the massive piles around. But, uh, it's
[3:20:46]
equipment trucks and manpower to get stuff done. So, so
[3:20:52]
one of the things I struggle with here is that,
[3:20:56]
and I appreciate the more a partners and their diligence
[3:21:00]
on this part, this parcel, uh, and the things they're
[3:21:04]
doing on the east side of town. But, um, you
[3:21:09]
know, at a time when, you know, I get beat
[3:21:11]
up every time I see Richard Chapman from Economic Development
[3:21:15]
Corporation because he's on me about the call cut, uh,
[3:21:19]
buildings that have burnt over there are just piles of
[3:21:23]
rubble and we can't seem to get those cleaned up.
[3:21:26]
Uh, we don't have money in our budget for us
[3:21:29]
to do it. And so, you know, but now we're,
[3:21:32]
we're looking for half a million dollars to clean up.
[3:21:35]
You know, some other plays. And so that's, that's what
[3:21:39]
I get into that policy, that policy question. If we
[3:21:43]
do it once, we got to do it everywhere. And,
[3:21:46]
you know, where do we draw the line? How do
[3:21:49]
we make that. How do we make that case. And
[3:21:53]
so I'm struggling a little bit. Uh, with this one.
[3:21:59]
Any of you talk about, uh, prevention besides these barriers
[3:22:04]
like, uh, you're going to start having the police helicopter
[3:22:07]
fly over it, you know, whenever they're around or whatever.
[3:22:11]
I don't know. Uh, to start trying to do some
[3:22:14]
enforcement. So in, in our, uh, secure column there, we
[3:22:19]
talk about bringing in some, before this develops bringing in
[3:22:24]
some temp lighting, uh, obviously what was talked about was
[3:22:29]
maybe some onsite surveillance having some extra security out there.
[3:22:33]
We, we would not be using any of our dollars
[3:22:36]
to do this. This would be, uh, private, uh, property
[3:22:41]
owner would need to need to do some of these
[3:22:43]
things. We, we would just want to make sure there's,
[3:22:47]
it's impenetrable from a barrier standpoint. Um, and then they
[3:22:50]
would need to do some investment of lighting on site
[3:22:56]
private, uh, surveillance. I think the one thing I would
[3:23:00]
add to what Gary had shared was that, um, we
[3:23:03]
have discussed, uh, the, you know, as the concept of
[3:23:10]
changing a little bit how we do a legal dumping
[3:23:12]
enforcement has come up. Can we put some cameras up?
[3:23:15]
Can we do some, some additional illegal dumping enforcement. That
[3:23:21]
has been contemplated for this site and just, you know,
[3:23:24]
I know you were saying it tongue in cheek council
[3:23:26]
member, but I have to clarify for the public record.
[3:23:29]
We do not have a police helicopter. All right. Um,
[3:23:37]
so yeah, so. You know, I see the need, but
[3:23:44]
I'm hesitant to support this. Not that I don't want
[3:23:49]
us to do this, but I'd like to have a
[3:23:51]
more comprehensive understanding of what are policies going to be
[3:23:55]
about these. And I, I know it's not just the
[3:23:59]
call cut. There's other ones around too. I mean, we
[3:24:02]
could dump a couple million bucks on these things. Pretty
[3:24:05]
quickly. And so two things. One is things like K
[3:24:09]
rail and those kinds of things. Uh, we ought to
[3:24:12]
have if we need to have it, is there some
[3:24:15]
other means by which we can buy those and have
[3:24:20]
them to where we use them on different projects. Uh,
[3:24:23]
but I'd like to have, uh, maybe more robust conversation
[3:24:31]
about what we're going to do about all these sites
[3:24:34]
around. And then, you know, we can all think of
[3:24:38]
two or three off the top of our head. And
[3:24:41]
what the city's approach is going to be to those.
[3:24:44]
Because I don't want to dump a 500, 000 dollar
[3:24:46]
lean on guys property, uh, that we may, you know,
[3:24:51]
we may see it. But, you know, if you have
[3:24:55]
it out of town investor, they don't land that he,
[3:24:58]
you know, his father bought him before him. I don't
[3:25:01]
know the case exactly, but he might not care. So
[3:25:05]
we might be, you know, uh, 10, 20 years before
[3:25:10]
that property's ever developed. So, uh, I don't know. I
[3:25:14]
just, I just, I'm struggling with this right now. If
[3:25:18]
I may, Council member, um, just as we developed our
[3:25:23]
economic development strategic plan, this council asked us to also
[3:25:28]
develop a rubric set of criteria for making decisions about
[3:25:32]
economic development incentives. There could be an opportunity to also,
[3:25:37]
we have a chronic nuisance program that the staff actually
[3:25:41]
spends a lot of time ranking properties that our chronic
[3:25:45]
nuisances under certain set of criteria. Uh, another, you know,
[3:25:50]
potential, you know, thought from the council going forward is
[3:25:54]
for staff to develop. A set of criteria. Um, that
[3:25:59]
could be used as a framework for making decisions about,
[3:26:02]
um, these very unique large chronic nuisance properties. It would
[3:26:05]
be, in my mind, it would actually be fairly similar
[3:26:07]
to the economic development, um, incentive criteria. And we have
[3:26:11]
a few different tools in the tool belt. You know,
[3:26:13]
we do have the abatement process. We're working on a
[3:26:16]
lien forgiveness policy that would be available in instances where
[3:26:23]
it's creating, uh, you've got a new ownership. And you're
[3:26:28]
going to generate, you know, new economic activity. Do you
[3:26:32]
look at those liens? And so, um, just food for
[3:26:35]
thought for the council that could be a future action
[3:26:37]
for staff is to develop a set of criteria that
[3:26:40]
council could use in making these kind of decisions. Because
[3:26:45]
there are rare number of times where we would suggest,
[3:26:48]
Hey, let's use, you know, additional dollars to address, you
[3:26:52]
know, a significant issue. But to some of the points
[3:26:57]
that have been noted tonight, there are times where you're
[3:26:58]
going to create opportunities, um, and address problems, um, that
[3:27:04]
come to the good of the community ultimately, um, and
[3:27:08]
there's probably ways that we could, um, measure that in
[3:27:12]
a reasonable framework. One other idea just to add to,
[3:27:18]
uh, C manager, KLEG is also in kind of the
[3:27:23]
economic development, uh, mindset, having the property owner have some
[3:27:29]
sort of commitment. And I, what I'm hearing you say
[3:27:32]
is maybe we want to see this developed in five
[3:27:36]
to 10 years. Maybe they have some sort of, well,
[3:27:39]
if we invest 500, 000 that there needs to be
[3:27:42]
some sort of additional commitment out of them that we
[3:27:46]
see this property develop. You know, and in some sort
[3:27:50]
of criteria that aligns to what city manager was talking
[3:27:54]
about with the economic development framework. Yeah. I don't know
[3:27:59]
if I know the answers to those questions. I think
[3:28:02]
I'm imposing the question more than answering them. So, uh,
[3:28:05]
you know, from my money, I'd like to see us
[3:28:07]
have a further discussion about that. Uh, I, in support
[3:28:14]
of it, I will make one comment, uh, the council
[3:28:18]
took a very, very conservative approach. To preparing this year's
[3:28:23]
budget. And we purposely didn't act on some CIP. We
[3:28:33]
decided to pull that. In and wait till mid -
[3:28:39]
year to see how our numbers are going to work
[3:28:41]
out before we committed any of that. So, you know,
[3:28:44]
we had made some reservations money set aside. For these
[3:28:54]
kind of project. I just like to know. I have
[3:28:57]
a better understanding of what our policy is. So we
[3:28:59]
don't have to have these to conversations when these things
[3:29:02]
come up that we know what we're going to do.
[3:29:04]
Uh, we know what we're capable of doing what we're
[3:29:06]
not going to do. So. I guess I'm going to
[3:29:12]
have to think about if I would make a motion
[3:29:14]
or anything. I don't know. That's all the questions I
[3:29:17]
have, Mary. Thank you, Councilmember Council Member Aryas. Thank you,
[3:29:21]
Mayor. I just, I just want to share that. I
[3:29:23]
appreciate the honest thinking and scrutiny of this allocation. I,
[3:29:30]
too, share some of those concerns, uh, because I agree,
[3:29:33]
you know, particularly in Council Member Gonzalez's district in mind,
[3:29:38]
we have numerous of these properties. Um, and so I
[3:29:42]
know that I can't come back for a second time,
[3:29:44]
uh, when the, uh, 40 acre lot with the similar
[3:29:48]
problem. Um, and so I think this is a unique
[3:29:51]
opportunity. But I also want to make sure that we're
[3:29:57]
also not losing side of the fact that this is
[3:29:59]
a compounding problem, not just for future economic development, but
[3:30:04]
it's, it's an immediate public safety issue. Um, that the
[3:30:09]
trash, it's not on the screen anymore, but the debris
[3:30:13]
stretches all the way back to our spreading fields and
[3:30:16]
connects and abuts immediately, you know, an entire section of
[3:30:22]
R1 residential homes. Uh, so there are many community members,
[3:30:26]
Nuries along with her neighbors who are very concerned that,
[3:30:30]
uh, when, not if, but when another fire breaks out,
[3:30:35]
that that fire may actually pose an immediate threat and
[3:30:37]
harm to their property. And so, um, as Council Member
[3:30:42]
Gonzalez mentioned, we just don't have the funds and the
[3:30:45]
budget today to abate this project. Um, and so we
[3:30:49]
need an additional allocation, uh, like the one tonight in
[3:30:52]
order to be able to, uh, abate this property. I'll
[3:30:57]
share that just a couple of weeks ago, um, from
[3:31:01]
my count, it was the fourth fire in the span
[3:31:04]
of, of about three months. Uh, that fourth fire, uh,
[3:31:08]
was the largest that I've seen on the property. But
[3:31:12]
it actually saddled, uh, two of the parcels. So, uh,
[3:31:19]
you know. Some of the investors had control and oversight
[3:31:23]
over part of it. But the larger part of it
[3:31:26]
in chunk was on the property of the property owner
[3:31:30]
who we cannot get in contact with. And so even
[3:31:33]
if we were to ask the investor to, uh, abate
[3:31:37]
their side, the more than 50 percent that we could
[3:31:41]
not, um, get under control. So just, just wanted to
[3:31:45]
share that and share that I appreciate the concerning actually
[3:31:50]
would like to ask what the appropriate committee would be
[3:31:53]
for us to make a referral that committee take a
[3:31:56]
look at, you know, what is that threshold for council
[3:32:00]
to consider, uh, a level of investment and attention, frankly,
[3:32:06]
like this. Council Mary. At first blush, but we could
[3:32:13]
also always come back and, and revisit that. But I
[3:32:17]
actually think probably safe and healthy neighborhoods makes the most
[3:32:20]
sense. Okay. Then with that, I'll make that referral tonight.
[3:32:25]
Thank you. Council Member Smith. Thank you, Mayor. The referral
[3:32:35]
does not apply to this. That's a separate referral. Is
[3:32:40]
that what I'm hearing. I'm just thinking that. I am
[3:32:49]
correct in the developer, the one of the landowners is
[3:32:53]
here. Is that correct? And that we've talked about. How
[3:33:00]
it gets paid back or if it gets paid back
[3:33:02]
over time or how we can. Work through that. And
[3:33:08]
perhaps it would be a good idea to continue and
[3:33:14]
have conversations. With the developer and come back at another
[3:33:21]
meeting. So I'm not going to make that motion because.
[3:33:27]
It's inward one. And so I'll let him think about
[3:33:32]
that. But that would be something that I think perhaps
[3:33:36]
we could address some of the concerns that other council
[3:33:40]
members are having fine solutions. If I may council member
[3:33:48]
Smith and the spirit of trying to help address some
[3:33:52]
of the questions and concerns as well. I think, uh,
[3:33:56]
if, if we were to take just a little bit
[3:33:59]
more time, we could potentially refine numbers for what are
[3:34:03]
the costs of the securing versus the abatement. And the
[3:34:08]
signage versus the abatement. And also what would be the
[3:34:12]
costs for the abatement of the northern portion. So just,
[3:34:15]
just for some additional clarity, what you see on the
[3:34:17]
page on the screen right now, there's a northern portion
[3:34:22]
that is the separate property owner in the southern portion.
[3:34:26]
Um, that has, you know, is I may be slightly
[3:34:31]
off on this either in the process of acquisition or
[3:34:35]
has been acquired by other, you know, property owners. They
[3:34:39]
have it. Okay. It has been acquired by other property
[3:34:41]
owners. We could potentially try and also, um. Separate out
[3:34:47]
what the costs may be for abatement of the non
[3:34:49]
- responsive versus the responsive. That might help look at
[3:34:53]
those dollars more specifically. And then I think it's also
[3:34:56]
worth noting. I'll just take a moment to clarify this,
[3:35:00]
that the ownership of the larger section to the south.
[3:35:04]
That's fairly recent ownership. They've come into that ownership in
[3:35:07]
more recent years. And cleaned it up. And then the
[3:35:10]
ownership, if you go back to the other one, Gary,
[3:35:13]
thank you. The southern portion of this property very recently
[3:35:18]
acquired. And so, you know, we're not, I would think
[3:35:20]
it's, it's worth noting that we're not talking about the
[3:35:23]
same actors over multiple years. This is a new owner
[3:35:27]
who's trying to be responsible. And, um, and in a
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spirit of, um, the long - term solution, we're looking
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at ways to help secure the site and force the
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site. But then also address the abatement costs to the
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cost of the property, if that helps. But there may
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be ways for us to, again, in summary, refine the
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numbers that would help give clarity and potentially options for
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how to spend those dollars and maybe work on some
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of the other, you know, questions that have been raised
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at the same time. Thank you. Council Member Gonzalez. Thank
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you, Mayor. I just wanted to make a referral that
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we pursue the receivership process for those parcels under the
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ownership of the Unresponsive owner. Um, because even if we
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do see development on these sites, um, those existing parcels,
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um, will remain a nuisance and a problem for the
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community moving forward. So if it makes sense, um, I
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would like us to at least consider or explore that
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option for that property. Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez. Council
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Member Aryes. Thank you, Mayor. Given the feedback from some
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of my colleagues and also given that we are approaching
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9 p. m. I would like to withdraw my motion.
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I'm going to introduce a new motion to bring this
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item back at the next council meeting. Thank you. Thank
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you any other request to speak. Seeing none, you have
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a motion. Please cast your votes.
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The motion is approved with council member Bashir Tash voting
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no. And vice marcor absent. Thank you. And now next
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item, please. Counsel and mayor statements. Can you clear the
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screen so I can see with there. Any comes to
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me or bash your tash. Can we get a presentation
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on municipal code and the standards that we are supposed
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to, I heard Councilman Gonzalez talking about some of the
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things that we can do. Um, I just, I'd like
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a presentation and then some, some thoughts on how we
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can put more teeth in it. Uh, to hold people
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accountable and taking properties that are just kind of destroying
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and not just commercial residential. I mean, we need to,
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just something. I want to know what our policy is
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and some ideas on how we can actually hold people
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accountable so that we're not, uh, wasting taxpayer money for
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clarity council merit. Needs chronic nuisance properties? Uh, yeah, I
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would even chronic newsome properties. I don't know what our
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standards are for, even front yards. If there's a grass
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levels and cars parked in, I'm sure they're just, I
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get constituent. We need something that's got teeth, real teeth,
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uh, that's that. For real. Second, um, can we begin
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to look at the adoption of the, um, best practices
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toolkit for homelessness and addiction. For treatment first policy that
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just came out and was published. I think I received
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a copy of it. Carlos, the director of the mission.
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It's just, it's fantastic. It's what, uh, all sides used
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to work on to actually get in front of this
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issue that we've gone away from the last two decades
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that is really created this, this problem, uh, and so
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I think that that would be incredible to get done.
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Um, we need to figure out how we can start
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rolling out the adoption of that instead of continuing to
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waste millions of dollars on, uh, what's not working. Uh,
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that's it. Thank you. Council member Gonzalez. Thank you, Mayor.
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Uh, you know, after the recent events, um, over the
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weekend and the tragedy, uh, there has been a lot
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of questions about youth violence and gain related shootings, uh,
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and homicides. And I think it would be worthwhile for
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this council within a council meeting to have a workshop
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related to some of our violence intervention work. Uh, so
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that the community can have a fuller understanding of some
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of the work that, uh, we're already engaged in because
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the ideas out there, um, a lot of great, um,
[3:39:55]
great conversations, um, but I think it would be helpful
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for us to at least establish a baseline of what,
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what's already taking place within the city of Bakersfield along
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with many other community partners. Thank you, Council Member Bringonzale.
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Let's Council Member Aryas. Thank you, Mayor. I'll just share
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that that's a wonderful idea given all of. Interest in
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this topic, but also, uh, just the communities outpouring of
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support and concern rather about, you know, safety in our
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community. I also just would love to add on some
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of the investments this council has made into the partnerships,
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uh, between BPD and our school resource officers, um, and
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placing those at particular sites of interest. There's so many
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different things that we have done to, you know, make
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our community safer, but also in partnership with some of
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our key partners, like our school districts. And so we'd
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love to make sure that we're taking full stock of
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all of that. Um, all of that worked. Mr. Claig,
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did you have some things? Thank you, Mayor. I just
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would appreciate the opportunity. Just reflect very briefly a couple
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of overarching thoughts on this topic because it is, um,
[3:41:14]
a large conversation that's going on in the community right
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now. I would first say that, you know, any act
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of violence, any tragedy, uh, loss of life is so
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unfortunate. Um, and we are very sad and by the
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incident that occurred last week. I think it's also important
[3:41:36]
to reflect. That Bakersfield from a gun violence perspective. Has
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not been as safe as it has been the last
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two years in more than a decade. The efforts that
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have been underway have made incredible progress. Every incident matters
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and we want to make sure that we stop every
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incident we can and that we respond to every incident.
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But because of the efforts of, uh, the Bakersville Police
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Department, our office of violence intervention and prevention, our community
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- based organizations. We saw more than a 70 percent
[3:42:10]
reduction and homicides and shootings from 2021 through 2024. We
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saw a very slight plateauing and uptick of last year.
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If you reflect in 2021, we had 60 homicides, 17
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of those were gang violence related. And in 2025, we
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had 33 homicides, three of those were gang violence related.
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In 2026, we've had only 10 homicides. One, the one
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last week was gang violence related. It is remarkable the
[3:42:44]
reduction in gang violence. I would argue that our community,
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I may gun violent standpoint has become very safe. And
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again, every incident that concerns our community that is different
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than that is important to us. Uh, but, uh, the
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gains have been significant and we're going to continue to
[3:43:05]
make those gains and work hard on this topic, but
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there's lots of work that's been happening. And, uh, I
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will express, you know, just some concern that as we
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were rallying partners in 2021 to do this work for
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many of the young people and our disadvantaged neighborhoods who
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were experiencing, um, these incidents at a too high of
[3:43:30]
a rate, we didn't have the same community impetus at
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the time. We were welcome any energy that is created
[3:43:37]
from these type of incidents. But we've rolled up our
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sleeves and been doing this work for a long time.
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And we've seen really big results and we'll take the
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opportunity to make that even bigger. I would note, uh,
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our overall crime also significantly down, but we're very frustrated
[3:43:54]
about the chronic low level quality of life crimes that
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continue to plague our community. That is issue number one
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for your counsel. You've made that issue number one for
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our staff to address. But our gun violence issues have
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been dramatically different. And it's fortunate that these are isolated
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instances today. Thank you, Mr. Clegg. Councilmember Coleman. Thank you,
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Mayor. I wanted to reach out to Angel of Fraser.
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You've been sitting here. Dr. Angelo Fraser. I've been sitting
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here all night. And I appreciate that. Unfortunately, Johnny Olaghi
[3:44:36]
made some remarks as he exited. Which were, for those
[3:44:42]
people that don't know, Mr. Logge, uh, that can be
[3:44:46]
offensive. Some of his comments. So. Uh, I apologize that
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we didn't react. I know you wanted to be able
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to respond to him. And we didn't give him an
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opportunity to do that. And so I apologize for not
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understand what you were telling me at that time. So.
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Thank you for sitting through this whole thing. I hope
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you learned something. And, uh. That's all I have to
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say about that. So thank you. I don't see any
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other requests. So we stand adjourn at 851.