[0:22] Good afternoon. Before we get started

[0:24] tonight, uh could I have your attention,

[0:26] please,

[0:27] in the room? Thank you. Before we get

[0:30] started tonight, I've got a little

[0:31] certificate of recognition I want to

[0:33] present to a young lady that um stepped

[0:36] up and done a lot of things for our city

[0:38] uh over the past couple of years that

[0:40] I've been involved. So, I asked Victoria

[0:42] to come forward.

[0:45] I put together a certificate of

[0:47] recognition

[0:48] uh presented to Victoria Wilkinson on

[0:51] behalf of the city of Beaver Creek. The

[0:53] mayor proudly recognizes Victoria

[0:55] Wilkinson, a seventh grade student and

[0:58] life scout, serving as a senior patrol

[1:00] leader of troop 269 for her exemplary

[1:04] leadership, service, and dedication to

[1:06] her school, her troop, and her

[1:09] community. Within troop 269, Victoria

[1:12] proudly serves as a bugler, historian,

[1:14] and librarian. She is president of the

[1:17] hearts of and hands 4 club and a girl

[1:20] scout ambassador and she has maintained

[1:22] a place on the academic honor role for

[1:24] four consecutive years. She also

[1:26] volunteers her time in support of the

[1:28] Beaver Creek wetlands. As Troop 269's

[1:31] bugler, Victoria has generously shared

[1:34] her talent with our community, sounding

[1:36] taps and calls of remembrance at the

[1:38] city of Beaver Creek September 11th

[1:40] memorial ceremony, the Green County Flag

[1:43] Retirement Celebration, and the

[1:45] community's Veterans Day and Memorial

[1:47] Day observances. And in recognition of

[1:49] her outstanding service, leadership, and

[1:51] talent, and spirit of giving back, I

[1:53] present you with this certificate.

[1:57] » [applause]

[2:28] » We'll call this meeting to order. Can I

[2:30] have a roll call, please?

[2:31] >> Council member Bales

[2:32] >> here.

[2:33] >> Council member Bills

[2:34] >> here.

[2:34] >> Council member Kern

[2:35] >> here.

[2:36] >> Council member Derer

[2:37] >> here.

[2:37] >> Council member Lit

[2:38] >> here.

[2:39] >> Vice Mayor Upton

[2:40] >> here.

[2:40] >> Mayor Adams

[2:41] >> here. And I'll turn it over to Council

[2:44] Member Der.

[2:46] >> Please join me in standing for the

[2:47] pledge.

[2:51] Victoria, Victoria, would you like to

[2:54] lead us, please?

[2:58] To the flag of the United States of

[3:00] America, and to the republic for which

[3:03] it stands, one nation under God,

[3:07] indivisible, with liberty and justice

[3:09] for all.

[3:13] » It's hard to imagine because it's still

[3:15] some time away. Uh but this is our last

[3:18] uh regular council meeting uh before the

[3:21] 25th anniversary of 911. Uh a fateful

[3:25] day in our nation's history

[3:28] uh and the deaths of 2,977

[3:32] Americans and others uh working across

[3:35] New York and Washington DC and on United

[3:39] Flight 93.

[3:42] Uh it was a day of dastardly terrorism

[3:46] that cut to the heart of civilization.

[3:49] Uh I promised that day that I would

[3:51] never forget and 25 years later uh it is

[3:55] still in my remembrance.

[4:01] I also want to think about and to pray

[4:04] for um the first responders

[4:07] uh several thousand of whom have died

[4:10] from cancer and other uh related uh

[4:13] ailments and injuries uh due to their

[4:16] heroic actions on that day.

[4:19] Please take a moment of silent prayer

[4:21] with me.

[4:30] Thank you.

[4:37] » Thank you. We have an agenda before us.

[4:40] Any changes, corrections?

[4:42] >> Move we approve the agenda for tonight,

[4:44] your honor.

[4:45] >> Second.

[4:46] >> I have a motion and a second to approve

[4:48] the agenda. All those in favor signify

[4:50] by saying I.

[4:51] >> I. I.

[4:51] >> Opposed.

[4:53] >> We have a set of minutes before us as

[4:54] well. August 10th, 2026 regular meeting.

[4:57] Any changes, corrections, updates?

[5:02] » Move to approve.

[5:03] >> Second.

[5:04] >> I have a motion and a second to approve

[5:05] the August 10th meeting minutes. All

[5:07] those in favor signify by saying I.

[5:09] >> I.

[5:10] >> Opposed.

[5:12] First thing up, PUD 8004

[5:21] PD08-4.

[5:23] Amendment, an application filed by Haye

[5:26] Howard and Elizabeth Han, 2084 Prudence

[5:28] Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio 45434. The

[5:32] applicant requests approval to amend

[5:34] PUD08-4.

[5:37] The applicant requests approval to to

[5:40] place

[5:42] to add a place of religious assembly as

[5:44] permitted use within the PUD. The

[5:46] property is located at 3044 Dayton Xenu

[5:49] Road, further described as book five,

[5:51] page six, partial five and six and book

[5:55] five, page 8, partial 90 on the Green

[5:58] County Property Tax Atlas.

[6:02] Ordinance

[6:05] 2620.

[6:07] An ordinance amending Ordinance 08-46

[6:11] PU08-4

[6:13] comfort keepers to add places of

[6:15] religious assembly as a permitted use.

[6:19] >> Do we have an applicant or nope?

[6:24] » Good evening, Mayor. The um applicant

[6:26] actually reached out to us late this

[6:27] afternoon. Um there's a illness in the

[6:30] family so they weren't able to make the

[6:31] meeting and their their representative

[6:33] had a conflict. Um so I was going to do

[6:37] the presentation for staff. This is an

[6:39] ordinance. So there's the second reading

[6:41] for this. So if there's questions that come up from tonight, um the

[6:44] applicant will make sure that there's

[6:46] someone at the next hearing if this

[6:49] moves on to the second reading to answer

[6:50] any specific questions. But I I'll do my

[6:52] best to answer some of the questions um

[6:55] related to the business. Um, again, this

[6:58] is PUD08-4,

[7:00] um, an amendment from July of this year.

[7:03] Uh, again, as the clerk stated, they're

[7:05] looking to amend the PED to add, uh,

[7:07] places of religious assembly as one of

[7:09] the permitted uses within the PED.

[7:14] Uh, the property is located uh, just off

[7:16] of Dayton Xia Road about 250 ft west of

[7:19] the intersection of Dayton and Hannes.

[7:21] Um it's it's a long

[7:25] very long elongated parcel. Um it's

[7:28] about 1.9 acres. Um it has 120 ft of

[7:33] frontage on Dayton Xiai Road. Um but it

[7:37] sits back the the the principal

[7:40] structure which is the former house of

[7:41] the property uh sits back about 300 380

[7:46] ft or 370 ft from the uh Dayton Xenior

[7:48] Road. Um, the property currently has a

[7:51] 2,000 square foot. It was a former

[7:53] house, but now it's an office because

[7:55] this was reszoned in 2008 from

[7:58] residential to CPU so that a

[8:02] professional office could be run out of

[8:03] the existing house. Um, so it has the

[8:06] 2,000 foot house. It has a a 2100 square

[8:10] foot detached uh barn uh on the property

[8:15] that sits about 530 ft back from Dayton

[8:18] Xia Road and about 13 feet off of the

[8:21] eastern property line.

[8:24] Um these are kind of photos of the

[8:26] structures, the existing structure. The

[8:29] one on the bottom left is the existing

[8:31] office building former house. Uh the top

[8:34] left is exterior of the barn and then

[8:37] the the photo on the right is the

[8:39] interior of the barn. Um the intent

[8:42] would be to uh renovate the the barn so

[8:44] that they could have uh religious

[8:47] assembly events in the barn as well as

[8:49] in the uh the existing office building.

[8:54] Um again the the area highlighted in

[8:57] pink is the the PUD as a whole. Um to

[9:01] the west is an RO1 residential office

[9:03] and that's a professional office

[9:05] building. To the north is a vacant R1A

[9:08] lot owned by the same owners um as the current owners of the of the PED

[9:15] property. And the intent is to sell that

[9:18] from my understanding is to sell that

[9:19] along with the the PUD property all to

[9:22] the uh the applicants. Uh to the east is

[9:27] uh a series of R1A properties. Um many

[9:30] of the houses are set several hundred

[9:33] feet back. These the ones along Hannes

[9:35] Road are also equally

[9:37] elongated, narrow, but very deep

[9:39] properties and the houses are pushed

[9:41] closer to Hannes Road. I believe in the

[9:42] staff report I have a diagram in there

[9:44] showing that distances back from many of

[9:46] the houses.

[9:52] the the the recently approved land use

[9:56] plan um has the property um within the

[9:59] Dayton Zenia uh Dayton Zenia Center uh

[10:03] corridor planning area and that's really

[10:06] a redevelopment plan so that uh uh in

[10:09] this specific area it would be for

[10:11] neighborhood um mixed uses um which a

[10:15] place of religious assembly is very uh

[10:18] especially one of this proposed size is

[10:20] very is compatible with the land use

[10:22] plan. Uh the the slide here is just the

[10:25] site as it exists today. Uh just to show

[10:28] where the parking lot is. And on this

[10:30] particular slide, north is to the right.

[10:32] Um you see the parking lot is south of

[10:34] the uh former house existing office

[10:37] building. There's asphalt in front of

[10:39] the uh the barn area and the intent is

[10:44] to convert that also to parking. um so

[10:48] that they could uh basically what

[10:49] they're they they're looking to do is

[10:51] have about 30 seats in the barn area and

[10:55] um they needed to take that to planning

[10:57] commission and and did that as a minor

[10:59] mod at the meeting two weeks ago and uh

[11:03] planning commission approved that but

[11:05] it's also contingent on this uh zoning

[11:08] amendment case being put forward. So if

[11:09] the if the zoning amendment does not

[11:11] pass, then that minor modification is

[11:15] considered null and void.

[11:21] That's getting challenging.

[11:24] >> That's all right.

[11:28] Okay. Um in terms of proposed

[11:32] conditions, one is uh everything in uh

[11:34] ordinance input 08-4 remain except as

[11:38] modified. Uh one of the conditions is

[11:41] adding the place of religious assembly.

[11:43] One is that it is uh just stating that

[11:45] the their proposed use is compatible

[11:47] with the land use plan. And then in

[11:50] ordinance 0846 condition number eight

[11:53] stated that the only structure that can

[11:56] have a principal use is the existing

[11:58] main structure. So it it um precluded

[12:01] them from doing any principal uses in

[12:03] the existing barn. Um and so in order

[12:06] for them to be able to convert that barn

[12:08] into a place of religious assembly,

[12:11] um condition number eight of that

[12:12] original ordinance needs to be repealed.

[12:14] So that's why it's proposed as condition

[12:16] four in the uh ordinance before you. Um

[12:19] planning commission uh recommended

[12:21] approval of the affle request. Staff has

[12:23] recommended approval of the applicants

[12:25] request. And I'll be happy to answer any

[12:27] questions following the public hearing.

[12:29] Thank you very much. This is a

[12:31] ordinance, so there is public input. If

[12:33] anyone would like to speak to this,

[12:34] please come forward. State your name and

[12:36] address, and you'll have three minutes.

[12:45] My name is Janice Jacobs. I live at 3040

[12:47] Dayton Xenior Road, right next door. I

[12:50] have several questions and

[12:52] unfortunately, they're not here to

[12:53] answer.

[12:55] I am wondering why they wanted to move

[12:58] there where there are so many churches

[13:02] and other places of religious bases that

[13:05] are standing empty everywhere.

[13:08] Why did they want there?

[13:12] And that's not a barn, by the way.

[13:14] That's a garage.

[13:16] When Taylor Plumbing was operating out

[13:20] of there and Ma and her husband were

[13:22] still alive, they built that barn to or

[13:26] that garage, excuse me, to house their

[13:30] heavy equipment. So, it is not a barn.

[13:32] It is a garage.

[13:37] Getting back to the religious assembly

[13:41] part of that,

[13:43] I I I

[13:46] am I'm still baffled by why the why. Who

[13:50] are they? Why do they want to move

[13:52] there? What do they want to do there?

[13:56] Now, religious assembly is such a broad

[14:01] bunch of words.

[14:04] What is their intent there?

[14:07] Are they going to re

[14:11] on the religious part of it? Anyone

[14:13] coming in?

[14:16] I don't see your Muslims coming in

[14:18] there. I don't see Islamic coming in

[14:21] there. Um maybe you're Baptist, maybe

[14:25] you're Methodist, maybe not necessarily

[14:28] you're Jewish. I don't see a broad use

[14:31] for this.

[14:33] Sounds like what they're wanting to do

[14:35] is turn this into a church.

[14:39] It's just a fancy way of saying a

[14:42] church.

[14:46] » That's all I have to say.

[14:47] >> Thank you very much.

[14:59] Anyone else?

[15:02] >> [clears throat]

[15:10] » Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. I like the

[15:14] idea of a religious facility, but I do

[15:16] have concerns

[15:18] with the types of uh worship that might

[15:22] go on and also note the close proximity

[15:25] to

[15:26] school here in Beaver Creek. Uh so that

[15:30] would just be an issue that we need to

[15:33] at least be aware of so we can make sure

[15:36] that we

[15:38] choose wisely and do things like that.

[15:40] So that's all I have to say. Thank you.

[15:43] >> Thank you.

[15:59] Anyone else?

[16:06] Did we have any? Uh,

[16:11] » oh, sure.

[16:15] Denny Crouch,

[16:17] 36 to9 Ranchfield Drive, Beaver Creek,

[16:20] Ohio.

[16:22] Uh, just a comment. I had not planned to

[16:25] say anything, but I kind of listened to

[16:28] what was being said here about

[16:31] who are these folks that want to

[16:33] establish a church?

[16:36] What kind of church is that going to be?

[16:39] We have a lot of things going on in our

[16:41] country right now.

[16:44] many attempts

[16:46] to employ Sharia law as part of the

[16:50] Muslim faith.

[16:53] It has been turned down in the state of

[16:55] Texas. Thank God for the the governor

[16:59] stepping forward there about 400 acres.

[17:03] This is quite a bit different than that.

[17:06] But it's something I think that we need

[17:08] to start being considering

[17:11] because I don't think we want that kind

[17:14] of law established within Beaver Creek,

[17:18] Ohio, Ohio or our country. And I just

[17:21] think it's necessary that perhaps we

[17:23] need to understand a little bit more

[17:25] about it before we say, "Yay, verily,

[17:28] let's have a church at this address."

[17:32] It doesn't seem to be very uh evident to

[17:36] me that that we understand where they

[17:39] are trying to head. I'm very amazed that

[17:42] they're not here today to to talk to it.

[17:45] That's quite unusual, I think. So, I

[17:48] think I just want

[17:50] you and the board to consider

[17:53] the possibility of what kind of church

[17:55] we're going to be allowing if we approve

[17:57] PUD 0804. Thank you.

[18:00] >> Thank you.

[18:15] Loren Kip, 3075 Ranchfield Drive next to

[18:18] Denny. Um, my questions have to do with

[18:21] that additional piece of property that

[18:23] they're looking to buy. You know, the

[18:25] Lshape there that's currently zone R1A.

[18:29] Not quite sure what allowed there. But

[18:32] if they're going to buy that, are they

[18:34] going to put like a parking lot in there

[18:36] like other buildings for their church?

[18:38] That was our, you know, in our

[18:39] neighborhood. That's all vacant right

[18:41] now. There is a lot of standing water

[18:43] back there. It hasn't been at Queen

[18:45] Motor. There's a lot of, you know,

[18:47] fallen trees down there, but I was just

[18:49] curious what the applicants their

[18:51] intentions are with the other piece of

[18:53] property once they buy that.

[18:57] >> Thank you.

[19:03] Andrea Oscaly, 3077 Kemp Road. I would

[19:07] like to kind of piggyback on that and

[19:09] just say as an example as to what can

[19:12] happen with a very small little church

[19:14] as University Baptist started as they

[19:17] were just a little corner church and now

[19:19] they're expanding into this. Now they're

[19:21] double the size and their parking lots

[19:22] have grown. They're going to put another

[19:24] building on that property supposedly

[19:26] sometime in the future. So it doesn't

[19:27] just stop with the little building guys.

[19:29] As soon as you start opening the

[19:31] floodgates, they just keep on doing

[19:33] whatever they want to do then. So that's

[19:35] all I have to say on this matter.

[19:37] >> Thank you.

[19:46] Anyone

[19:55] else?

[19:58] Did we have any written input? Debbie,

[20:03] we did get a letter from the physician's

[20:06] office next door that does not want

[20:09] their parking lot used in any way,

[20:11] shape, or form by these people.

[20:14] That was their worry and concern.

[20:22] » Nothing further from the citizens. I

[20:24] will close the uh public input and

[20:26] council.

[20:28] I have a couple of questions for Randy.

[20:37] Uh, one, maybe you can just clarify one

[20:39] of the comments we just heard about

[20:41] buying another parcel or selling

[20:43] another. I thought I heard you say they

[20:45] were going to sell another.

[20:46] >> Uh, well, the the current owners that

[20:48] own the the the narrow strip also own a

[20:51] couple acre property to the north and

[20:54] the intent was just to sell both of

[20:55] those to the uh this current applicant.

[20:58] >> I see.

[20:59] >> That uh that property is zone R1A. it's

[21:02] not being reszoned or it's not part of

[21:04] this PUD. If they wanted to do any kind

[21:07] of religious assembly growth there, they

[21:10] would have to at a minimum go through

[21:12] the conditional use process through

[21:13] planning commission where it would be a

[21:14] public hearing and site plan,

[21:16] >> including a parking lot,

[21:17] >> anything like that. Anything other than

[21:20] putting a single family residential

[21:21] house back there would

[21:22] >> Can you point that out on the map?

[21:24] >> Um, see if I have it on the map. Uh, I

[21:29] zoomed in way too close to get the full

[21:31] property. Um, and that's way too far

[21:34] away. Um,

[21:37] it's basically just north of the end of

[21:40] the the PED, the north side of the PED.

[21:43] It's

[21:45] basically a rectangular uh parcel closer

[21:48] to this one.

[21:53] » I'm sorry. You can see it in your in

[21:54] your

[21:55] >> uh it it probably close to an acre and a

[21:57] half. Yeah.

[22:02] » Okay. Yeah. I didn't

[22:08] » or on Yeah. On the first page of the

[22:11] staff report, you can see the R1A lot

[22:12] just north of the

[22:15] >> Sorry.

[22:16] >> Oh, yeah. That's that's a good

[22:19] Okay. Sorry.

[22:21] So, um I know this is kind of a zoning

[22:25] amendment related to that, but

[22:28] how do they do you know how they plan to

[22:30] address parking?

[22:33] >> Right now, their intent is to only have

[22:35] 30 spaces or 30 30 uh seats in the main

[22:39] auditorium. And that uh the way the

[22:42] parking calculation works out is that

[22:43] they only have to have 10 parking spaces

[22:45] for that. It's like one for every three

[22:46] seats. So they could utilize their

[22:48] existing parking. Um if they want to

[22:51] expand, they're going to expand into the

[22:53] existing asphalt, just stripe in some

[22:55] new parking spaces. There's no intent

[22:57] right now to um change the layout of the

[23:02] site. If they did, it would need to go

[23:04] through the PED modification process,

[23:06] either minor mod, incidental mod, or

[23:07] major mod depending on the scope. Um, so

[23:11] right now there's no no plans to expand

[23:14] the pavement or the building other than

[23:16] re renovate the the U garage barn.

[23:21] And did they provide you any details on

[23:24] their um church?

[23:28] Um, in the in the letter of intent

[23:31] there's they address that they're wanting to run a place of

[23:34] religious assembly, but we have in our

[23:36] zoning code,

[23:38] place of religious assembly is a

[23:41] catchall for any

[23:44] similar I mean any of the the

[23:47] denominations, any of the the religions

[23:50] out there. We don't make a distinction

[23:51] between any of those from a zoning code

[23:54] standpoint.

[23:55] >> Okay, that's all there.

[23:58] Hi, Mr. K.

[23:59] >> Yeah, this is I guess I'm following up

[24:01] on council members. What's the maximum

[24:05] number of parking spaces right now? What are they allowed right now?

[24:11] >> Um that I mean they have 10 parking

[24:13] spaces.

[24:13] >> 10. I saw that.

[24:16] >> And so that would that would allow up to

[24:18] 30 uh seats in the main

[24:20] >> I see

[24:20] >> auditorium. Um or a combination thereof

[24:24] if there's several small ones in the

[24:26] house. Um, if they want to do any more

[24:28] than 30 as a conglomerate, then they'd

[24:31] have to expand parking, create more

[24:33] parking, one for every three seats.

[24:35] >> What What kind of is he angled in

[24:37] parking? What kind of parking?

[24:38] >> Right now, they're they're 90 degree

[24:40] parking right off. They're uh you pull

[24:43] straight in. I mean, there's no it's not

[24:45] angled because there's no loop for them

[24:47] to turn around.

[24:49] >> So, there's there's no ingress and

[24:51] egress lanes. Just one lane.

[24:54] >> It's one lane. Yeah.

[25:04] Thank you.

[25:06] >> I think Councilman Bales has a follow-up

[25:08] question.

[25:08] >> Yeah, excuse me. Um,

[25:11] at what point, if any, would the city,

[25:14] if if this were to be approved, would

[25:16] the city see the building plan and

[25:19] modification plan, or does that go to

[25:22] Green County building?

[25:25] >> In order for them to actually move their

[25:26] business in, they'll have to do a

[25:28] certificate of use compliance. Um,

[25:30] they'd have to do one for the main

[25:31] structure right now. And if they wanted

[25:33] to convert the exist the barn the garage

[25:36] into a new new primary structure, they'd

[25:38] have to do a separate certificate of use

[25:39] compliance for that. And we would

[25:41] require with that to have a minimal

[25:44] construction drawings, but really the

[25:46] construction drawings are approved by

[25:48] the county and the building department.

[25:50] >> But we'll still require it um just to

[25:53] make sure that you know that they're

[25:55] following the uh requirements for added

[25:59] insulation to help dampen sound.

[26:03] Yeah. And then the number of seats I

[26:05] mean it

[26:07] >> yeah that that'd be part of the

[26:08] certificate of use compliance is how

[26:09] many what use how many if it's a

[26:12] particular like place of religious how

[26:15] many seats so we can make sure that they

[26:17] have enough parking to make sure that

[26:18] they they're compliant. Thank you.

[26:21] >> I have a couple questions.

[26:23] >> Sure.

[26:23] >> Um it's unfortunate the applicant's not

[26:26] here. I do have a question regarding the

[26:29] letter of intent that they had sent in

[26:32] regards to that they they make this the assertation that they have no

[26:37] intention to change existing buildings

[26:40] on site um layouts positional other uh I

[26:46] do have concern

[26:48] specifically with utilation the

[26:51] utilization of the garage or barn or

[26:53] whatever we want to call it back there.

[26:55] I don't I don't think that it's

[26:57] adequate. I don't think that it makes

[27:00] sense. Um I would be

[27:05] [snorts]

[27:06] for

[27:07] striking uh in section one uh condition

[27:12] four

[27:15] of the uh that says to strike requesting

[27:18] to strike section eight from the

[27:21] ordinance. to where that structure back

[27:23] there can't be used. Um

[27:28] the the issue of whether or not the

[27:31] property is large enough to hold an

[27:33] entire church services. I mean I

[27:35] understand if it's a small congregation,

[27:37] they're talking 30 people. I but I am

[27:41] concerned and I wish the applicant was

[27:42] here to kind of walk us through what

[27:44] they mean by not changing anything and

[27:46] but they want uh approval. Um, and I

[27:51] want to walk people through what I was

[27:53] saying in uh, section one of the

[27:59] ordinance.

[28:01] Under bullet four, it says condition

[28:05] eight of section two of the ordinance

[28:08] shall hereby be re

[28:11] repealed. I do not want to repeal that.

[28:14] I don't believe that the and if you go

[28:16] down to eight, it says that eight is the

[28:22] it is the uh that would be on page

[28:28] I guess it's page 30 of our or 29. It

[28:32] says the principal principal structure

[28:34] currently on the site in its current

[28:36] location shall be the only main

[28:38] structure allowed. The accessory

[28:41] buildings on the proposed uh property

[28:44] shall be for accessory use to the main

[28:48] business and shall not be converted to

[28:50] allow for another use on the property. I

[28:55] want that to stay in. I don't think we

[28:58] should repeal that.

[29:02] And again, if the applicant was here to

[29:04] kind of walk us through what their

[29:06] intent was, but because of the way that

[29:08] their letter reads, it states that they

[29:10] have no plans to really do anything to

[29:12] that property.

[29:14] Um, I don't think that the garage should

[29:16] be used for the church services or it's

[29:18] close to the back of the people's

[29:21] backyards. Um, and we don't know what

[29:24] kind of services they're going to hold

[29:26] in the in the property.

[29:29] So, I'll let everybody else speak before

[29:31] I make a motion, but that's my two

[29:34] cents. Thanks, Mayor.

[29:37] >> Councilwoman Bills.

[29:39] >> Uh, Randy, I have a question. Um, what's

[29:41] the intent behind only allowing one

[29:43] primary structure and I understand we

[29:45] have some exceptions throughout the

[29:46] city. So, if you could just kind of give

[29:48] me an overview.

[29:49] >> Um, well, then when this was done in

[29:51] 2008, I think that there was concern it

[29:54] was reszoned so that uh they I think it

[29:58] was a

[30:00] elderly care or dementia care facility

[30:02] or or it was senior solutions is what

[30:04] they resent it for. And there was

[30:06] concern that there'd be additional

[30:08] activities in the in the the detached

[30:12] garage. And so when we took it through

[30:14] in 2008, it was that was added so that

[30:17] only the house could be used and and the

[30:19] applicants at the time had no problem

[30:20] with that. So it wasn't really

[30:22] questioned. Um it wasn't it wasn't an

[30:25] issue.

[30:26] >> Okay. And so

[30:29] I think that solved a problem or a

[30:31] question mark back in 2008.

[30:34] Um, and it's still a question mark now.

[30:38] >> So is this something that's allowed

[30:39] widely throughout the city or is this

[30:41] would this be an exception?

[30:42] >> Well, there is I mean there's

[30:45] innumerable number of commercial

[30:47] properties in the city that have more

[30:48] than one business on them. Anywhere in

[30:50] the mall, anywhere any of the strip

[30:51] centers. Um, I know this is a different

[30:54] >> something comparable to this. Um,

[30:59] well, any I'm trying to think of a

[31:01] specific

[31:06] I'm drawing a blank right now, but

[31:08] >> sorry to put you on the

[31:10] >> I mean like um

[31:13] there are a few properties down on date

[31:15] Xia West. I'm trying to think

[31:18] >> and Patterson that have church

[31:21] >> that have Yeah. more than one business

[31:24] operating or or multiple buildings for a

[31:27] church um

[31:29] that operate, you know, out of more than

[31:31] one facility. And I also saw in the um

[31:34] planning commission meeting um that

[31:37] there were there was a discussion around

[31:39] kind of ingress and egress and that kind

[31:42] of situ does you said I think that you

[31:45] had to run that by fire marshall or

[31:47] >> when the fire marshall is going to be

[31:49] more uh when they go through the

[31:51] building if if they're renovating this

[31:53] building this detached garage into a now

[31:57] building that's going to have people in

[31:58] it mass several people they're going to

[32:01] have to go through the fire uh get

[32:03] approval from the fire marshal as part

[32:05] of their building permit approval.

[32:07] >> And also um but was there any concern

[32:09] about like emergency vehicles in and out

[32:12] since it is kind of like a narrow not

[32:14] two lanes limited space to

[32:17] >> it's something we can certainly forward

[32:18] on to the uh fire department to see what

[32:20] their concerns are. there's not really a

[32:23] major change to the site um in terms of

[32:27] the way the ingress egress is being

[32:31] proposed. I mean there it's staying as

[32:34] is. So it's one of those things where

[32:36] fire department didn't say anything

[32:37] about it

[32:38] >> over the last several years. It's it's a

[32:40] more intense use though. So I I get

[32:42] that.

[32:42] >> Well, yeah. Yeah. If they're going to

[32:43] have assemblies of people there, it's

[32:45] different than customers coming I feel

[32:47] like in and out individually. Um,

[32:50] another question was about um ADA

[32:53] compliance because if they're going to

[32:55] be holding services in the church and I

[32:57] know there's I mean are they prepared to

[33:01] comply

[33:03] >> the the existing office house it was

[33:06] when it was converted in 2008 they had

[33:08] to go through a whole bunch of ADA stuff

[33:09] to make the restrooms and indoor

[33:11] facilities ADA compliant. And there's an

[33:14] ADA um parking space out there by the uh

[33:17] existing house. they'll have to do as

[33:19] part of that building permit, they'll

[33:21] have to make sure anything that's in

[33:24] that garage would be ADA compliant. Um,

[33:28] they'll be obligated to follow that.

[33:31] That's more of a function of the county

[33:33] than the city. We we tell how many

[33:34] parking spaces you might need, but

[33:37] >> bathroom sizes, handles, heights, and

[33:39] everything like that is really more of a

[33:41] building department function.

[33:42] >> Yeah. Um I also uh on a side note would

[33:46] like to I had some questions I also

[33:48] wanted to ask um from the applicants and

[33:52] so kind of disappointed that we can't do

[33:54] that. Um I was even considering possibly

[34:00] not moving this forward maybe

[34:02] tableabling it. Is that possible? So

[34:04] that we can allow them to come in and

[34:06] maybe have some of our questions

[34:07] answered.

[34:08] >> I've been listening to this and that was going to be my statement. I'm

[34:11] not comfortable moving forward right now

[34:14] without an applicant here because

[34:15] there's too many unanswered questions

[34:17] and um I would uh I would entertain a

[34:21] motion to table it until we can get the

[34:23] applicant here.

[34:27] » Yeah, perfectly logical.

[34:32] » You're asking whether you can do that.

[34:33] The answer is yes.

[34:37] So, should I

[34:39] >> should I make a motion to table?

[34:41] >> Um,

[34:42] >> I guess it's been done.

[34:44] >> Okay.

[34:44] >> I have a motion and a second to table

[34:46] this until we can have an applicant

[34:48] present. All those in favor signify by

[34:50] saying I

[34:51] >> opposed.

[34:52] >> I

[34:59] » Okay, Randy, if you could contact them

[35:01] and work work out a time that they can

[35:04] be here. Uh, I understand family issues

[35:08] and things like that, but you know, they

[35:10] should have someone else to be able to

[35:11] step up.

[35:15] Ordinances, resolutions, and PUDs.

[35:17] Ordinance 26-9.

[35:20] an ordinance to levy

[35:23] assessments for the improvement of

[35:25] certain streets in the city of Beaver

[35:27] Creek by maintaining currently erected

[35:29] poles and providing electricity for

[35:31] lighting same certain streets and

[35:33] declaring an emergency upon second

[35:35] reading.

[35:37] >> This is a second reading. Anything else

[35:39] from staff

[35:47] council?

[35:55] » Oh, your honor. I'd uh make the motion

[35:58] to approve ordinance uh 2619 as an

[36:02] emergency roll call vote.

[36:04] >> Second.

[36:06] I have a motion and a second to approve

[36:08] uh ordinance 26-9

[36:11] as an emergency. Uh I have a roll call,

[36:14] please.

[36:14] >> Council member Kern,

[36:16] >> yes.

[36:16] >> Council member Lit,

[36:17] >> yes.

[36:18] >> Council member Veos,

[36:19] >> yes.

[36:20] >> Vice Mayor Upton,

[36:21] >> yes.

[36:22] >> Council member Bills,

[36:23] >> yes.

[36:24] >> Council member Derer,

[36:25] >> yes.

[36:25] >> And Mayor Adams,

[36:26] >> yes.

[36:29] >> Resolution 26-38.

[36:36] authorizing the police department to

[36:38] accept the Ohio Attorney General's drug

[36:40] use prevention DARE grants program

[36:43] funding.

[36:44] >> Chief,

[36:45] >> good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of

[36:46] council. So, [clears throat] the

[36:49] department applied for the annual drug

[36:50] use prevention grant to be used towards

[36:53] the DARE officer salary for conducting

[36:56] the drug abuse resistance education

[36:58] program in the schools. The Ohio

[37:01] Attorney General's office reported there

[37:03] was 1.8 million available for all the

[37:06] drug use prevention applicants and

[37:09] requests totaled 2.93 million for the

[37:12] year. On August 4th, we received

[37:15] notification that we were awarded

[37:17] $23,76.73

[37:21] for the 2627 academic school year.

[37:25] staff recommends council approval for

[37:27] the police department to accept the drug

[37:30] use prevention grant.

[37:35] » I'd just like to say I appreciate you

[37:37] presenting this chief. Uh back when I

[37:40] used to teach DARE, my chief and sheriff

[37:43] made me go over and do it myself

[37:46] [laughter]

[37:47] and

[37:47] >> I hate I hated it.

[37:50] >> But I I I really appreciate I know this

[37:52] grant does a lot of good and

[37:55] I'm 100% behind it.

[37:58] >> Chief, my son recently went through the

[38:00] program. Uh, hats off to Officer Pley

[38:03] for an outstanding job and I'm very

[38:06] grateful for this this grant and

[38:08] opportunity. Thank you.

[38:09] >> Thank you.

[38:15] Yeah, I know we've uh had DARE program

[38:18] for a long time and I know there's

[38:19] several adults out there right now that

[38:21] had Sergeant Hmel

[38:22] >> and they still remember that his DARE

[38:24] officer

[38:30] » there's no further comment. I would move

[38:32] for approval of resolution 2638.

[38:34] >> Second.

[38:35] >> I have a motion and a second to approve

[38:36] resolution 26-38. All those in favor

[38:39] signify by saying I. I. I. opposed.

[38:44] Nice to be able to get that.

[38:46] Resolution 26-40.

[38:50] » Resolution 26-40. A resolution

[38:53] authorizing the city manager to enter

[38:55] into an agreement with the Ohio

[38:57] Emergency Management Agency for state

[38:59] funding assistance due to the impacts of

[39:02] the disaster declaration from the

[39:04] January 2026 winter storm event.

[39:07] >> Yes. Uh good evening, mayor, members of

[39:09] city council. As you might remember, the

[39:11] Dayton region experienced a record

[39:13] setting snowfall event in late January

[39:16] 2026. Uh according to the National

[39:19] Weather Service, the uh January 24th

[39:22] through 26 storm, uh the city received

[39:25] uh over 14 inches of snowfall during

[39:27] that that snow event. Uh following the

[39:30] event, the uh governor authorized the uh

[39:32] state disaster relief program to accept

[39:34] applications for reimbursement from

[39:36] local jurisdictions. Uh when that became

[39:38] available, the uh city we gathered all

[39:40] of our costs from the snow event

[39:42] together and submitted those. Uh they

[39:44] have since approved our uh our cost

[39:46] submitt of $149,473.

[39:50] Uh of that amount, a total of 75% is

[39:53] reimburseable back to the city, which

[39:54] equates to $112,15.17.

[39:59] Uh the approval of this resolution will

[40:01] allow for us to formally submit the

[40:03] application and submit and start the uh

[40:05] reimbursement process to the city.

[40:07] With that, be happy to answer any

[40:08] questions.

[40:11] >> Any questions?

[40:13] >> I just want to say nice job keeping all

[40:15] of the data so that we were able to

[40:18] submit the reimbursement grant and uh

[40:21] that'll buy a little bit of salt.

[40:23] >> Absolutely.

[40:25] >> Well, not as much as it would last year.

[40:27] >> That's true.

[40:32] and thank you for uh your team being

[40:34] able to keep up with that large

[40:36] snowfall. I think we had a really good

[40:39] success here in Beaver Creek but with

[40:40] that. So,

[40:41] >> right, it was a tremendous team effort.

[40:42] The guys in the garage [clears throat]

[40:43] are awesome at these kind of events.

[40:46] >> Yeah, thank you.

[40:48] >> I'll move to approve resolution 26-40.

[40:51] Second.

[40:52] >> I have a motion and a second to approve

[40:54] resolution 26-40. All those in favor

[40:57] signify by saying I.

[40:58] >> I. opposed

[41:01] liquor license.

[41:03] Chief, you're back.

[41:05] >> Thank you. All right. The Ohio

[41:07] Department of Commerce, Division of

[41:09] Liquor Control, sent notification of a

[41:11] request for a new liquor permit for Ohio

[41:13] CVS stores LLC, CVS Pharmacy, store 3458

[41:20] at 1331 North Fairfield Road.

[41:23] There were no required record checks on

[41:25] this request and staff does not have any

[41:27] objections or concerns with this permit.

[41:30] Staff is recommending this application

[41:32] request move forward without comment.

[41:38] » Motion motion to motion to accept

[41:41] without comment.

[41:43] >> Second.

[41:44] >> I have a motion and a second to accept

[41:46] without comment. All those in favor

[41:47] signify by saying I.

[41:48] >> I.

[41:49] >> Opposed.

[41:51] And that brings us to citizen comments.

[41:53] If you'd like to come and address

[41:54] council on any issue, please come to the

[41:57] podium, state your name and address, and

[41:59] you'll have three minutes. It can be

[42:00] donated up to six more minutes from

[42:02] other people in the audience.

[42:22] Hello, I'm Summer Shaw. I'd like to

[42:24] donate my time to Kelly Campbell,

[42:26] please.

[42:28] >> What's your address?

[42:29] >> 4229 Ridgcliffe Drive, Beaver Creek,

[42:32] Ohio, 45 440.

[42:37] » Hi, my name is Laura Keller. I live at

[42:39] 3140 Shaker Town Road and I would like

[42:42] to donate my three minutes to Kelly Camp

[42:44] Falls.

[42:50] Hi, I'm Kelly Campbell, 4229 Ridge Cliff

[42:54] Drive. I'm the one that they're speaking

[42:55] about. Um, good evening. I'll be honest,

[42:59] I am a little exhausted standing up here

[43:02] tonight. Um, and I think a lot of the

[43:04] people who have been coming to these

[43:06] meetings are exhausted, too. You guys

[43:08] also might be. We've spent months trying

[43:11] to explain why we oppose this project

[43:13] and I'm not sure that the city

[43:15] understands what we're actually saying.

[43:17] After the last meeting, the message I

[43:19] took away was at this point our efforts

[43:21] are essentially feudal. And I think

[43:23] that's a pretty remarkable message to

[43:25] hear from the people that we are coming

[43:27] to speak to. If the public process is

[43:30] supposed to give residents an

[43:31] opportunity to influence decisions,

[43:33] telling them that their efforts are

[43:35] futile is a pretty discouraging way to

[43:38] conduct the process.

[43:40] I've also been thinking a lot about a

[43:41] conversation I had with C council member

[43:43] Bills at a recent meeting we were both

[43:45] at. She pulled me aside and said

[43:47] somewhat sternly, "Kelly, come here. I

[43:49] want to talk to you." And I asked her,

[43:50] maybe not that harshly, um I asked her,

[43:53] "Hey, why are you giving me the stink

[43:55] eye? Is what's that for?" She admitted

[43:58] she was, but then she asked me

[43:59] essentially, "What do these people even

[44:01] want?"

[44:03] And I thought about I thought the answer

[44:04] was pretty simple. In fact, I was a

[44:06] little surprised that it even still

[44:08] needs to be asked. They've been very

[44:09] clear what they want. They want the city

[44:12] to stop the project. In short of that, I

[44:15] think the biggest problem is that the

[44:16] city and the residents are talking past

[44:18] each other. The city says, "We've

[44:20] reduced the width of the shared use

[44:22] paths. We've scaled back parts of the

[44:24] project. We talked to property owners

[44:26] and we've offered to replace or

[44:28] compensate even for for some of the

[44:30] trees." And I understand that those are

[44:32] changes, but the residents aren't

[44:34] saying, "Hey, we really like the

[44:36] project, but could you make the path a

[44:37] few feet narrower?" They're saying, "We

[44:40] don't believe this project at this scale

[44:42] is necessary." And those are two very

[44:45] different conversations.

[44:47] I don't want to minimize the changes

[44:48] that the city's made. The city has

[44:51] reduced impacts. They've narrowed paths.

[44:53] They've tried to work with individual

[44:55] property owners, and those things

[44:56] matter. I understand why the city would

[44:59] view those as meaningful efforts to

[45:00] respond to public concerns, but those

[45:03] concessions don't answer the central

[45:05] question. They assume that the project

[45:07] is going forward and they ask uh

[45:09] residents how to make it less

[45:10] objectionable. The residents are asking

[45:13] a different question. Why are we doing

[45:15] this project at all? And why does this

[45:17] need to be done so large? When residents

[45:19] get three minutes to speak and then they

[45:22] have to wait two weeks to come back and

[45:23] speak again, that really isn't dialogue.

[45:27] They make their case, council listens,

[45:29] maybe there's a brief response and then

[45:31] everybody goes home and then we rinse

[45:32] and repeat.

[45:34] So when the response becomes, what more

[45:36] do these people want? I think the answer

[45:37] is they want to know that their

[45:39] fundamental objection is actually being

[45:41] considered. And I still haven't heard a

[45:44] compelling explanation for why

[45:45] Shakertown needs to become a three-lane

[45:47] roadway. We keep hearing about grant

[45:49] funding, but I haven't heard enough

[45:51] about the underlying need. What current

[45:53] traffic problem are we solving? What

[45:56] projected demand requires three lanes

[45:58] and what's changed since the original

[46:00] studies that supported the funding? Have

[46:02] we looked at whether the assumptions

[46:04] behind those studies still reflect the

[46:06] re reality of Beaver Creek today? I

[46:08] understand that grant money is available

[46:10] but or or been already made available,

[46:13] but we can get someone else to pay for

[46:15] it isn't the same thing as we need to

[46:17] build it. A grant explains why the city

[46:19] can build the project. It doesn't

[46:21] explain why the city needs to build it.

[46:23] And I think we should be asking a bigger

[46:25] fiscal question. What does the road cost

[46:27] Beaver Creek over its entire useful

[46:29] life? If we build substantially more

[46:32] pavement and infrastructure than we

[46:34] actually need today, we're not

[46:35] eliminating that cost. We're creating a

[46:38] larger maintenance obligation for the

[46:40] future. 30 years from now, someone is

[46:42] going to have to repave this road. And

[46:44] at that point, it won't matter whether

[46:46] the original construction was heavily

[46:48] subsidized by ODOT. Beaver Creek

[46:50] taxpayers will be responsible for

[46:52] maintaining what we build. And a grant

[46:54] that that can make the upfront cost look

[46:57] inexpensive now

[46:59] won't make the infrastructure

[47:01] inexpensive uh inexpensive over its

[47:03] lifetime. If we're building

[47:05] substantially more roadway than we need,

[47:07] we're potentially trading a short-term

[47:09] financial benefit for a long-term

[47:10] maintenance obligation. So, I would ask

[47:13] council to step back from the question

[47:14] of how much money can we save by using

[47:16] this grant and ask the more important

[47:18] question. Does this project at this

[47:20] scale represent the infrastructure that

[47:22] Beaver Creek and that Shaker Town

[47:23] actually needs?

[47:26] There's another cost that doesn't show

[47:27] up neatly on the project spreadsheet.

[47:30] The cost to the people who live along

[47:32] this road. And I'm sorry if I'm boring

[47:34] you.

[47:38] The the project the property is

[47:40] affected. Their trees are affected.

[47:42] Their daily lives are affected. Their

[47:45] peace and quiet is affected. those

[47:48] aren't abstract costs to the people who

[47:50] have been coming here and speaking about

[47:51] them. And I also have to say something

[47:54] about the tone of this process because

[47:55] at this point some of us are feeling not

[47:58] simply unheard but treated with disdain.

[48:00] I don't say that lightly and I don't

[48:02] mean that every council member has

[48:03] treated residents this way. But when

[48:05] residents are repeatedly interrupted,

[48:07] when they're told their efforts are

[48:08] feutal, when the response of months of

[48:11] public opposition is essentially, what

[48:13] do more do these people want? It's

[48:15] difficult not to come away feeling that

[48:17] our participation is being viewed as

[48:18] annoyance rather than as a legitimate

[48:20] part of the public process. And that's

[48:22] particularly frustrating because the

[48:24] people standing at this microphone

[48:26] aren't asking for special treatment.

[48:28] They're asking to be taken seriously

[48:30] when they raise questions about a major

[48:31] expenditure of public resources and a

[48:34] project that will permanently change

[48:35] their neighborhood. Finally, I would ask

[48:39] the city to recognize something that

[48:41] residents opposing this project aren't

[48:43] confused about what the city has

[48:46] changed. They understand the

[48:47] concessions. They just don't believe

[48:49] that those concessions solve the

[48:51] fundamental problem. They don't want a

[48:53] slightly smaller version of a product

[48:55] project that they don't believe is

[48:56] necessary. And I don't think that a

[48:59] appropriate response to that is what

[49:01] more do you want? I think the

[49:03] appropriate response is what are they

[49:04] telling us that we haven't adequately

[49:07] answered because I don't think that

[49:09] residents are failing to understand the

[49:11] city's position. I think the city may be

[49:14] failing to understand the resident's

[49:15] position. There's a difference between

[49:17] saying, "We heard you. We made some

[49:19] changes and being able to explain in

[49:21] concrete terms why this particular

[49:22] project is necessary beyond just the

[49:25] fact that funding is available for it.

[49:28] If the road needs to be repaid, let's

[49:29] talk about the condition of the road. If

[49:31] there's safety problems, let's talk

[49:33] about safety problems. If the current

[49:35] traffic volumes require three lanes,

[49:37] let's talk about current traffic data

[49:38] that demonstrates that need. And if

[49:40] there's future demands that we're

[49:41] playing uh planning for, let's talk

[49:43] about those projections.

[49:46] We have a grant that will pay for this

[49:47] project is a funding explanation. It's

[49:49] not a needs assessment. And honestly, I

[49:52] think we need a different kind of

[49:53] conversation at this point. These

[49:55] council meetings don't seem to be

[49:57] serving anybody particularly well.

[49:59] Residents come here and get a few

[50:01] minutes to speak. Council responds

[50:03] briefly if at all. And then we all come

[50:05] back two weeks later to do it again. And

[50:07] I don't think anybody walks away feeling

[50:09] particularly satisfied. Probably not you

[50:11] guys either. So I'd like to make a

[50:14] simple request. Let's sit down and

[50:15] actually talk to each other. An actual

[50:18] conversation where residents can explain

[50:20] their concern and council can explain

[50:22] the city's reasoning and we can ask

[50:24] questions and response respond to the

[50:25] answers in real time. not asking for a

[50:28] guarantee that we'll get the outcome

[50:29] that we want, but I'm asking for an

[50:30] opportunity to understand each other and

[50:33] to have the kind of dialogue that should

[50:35] have happened in the first place. If

[50:36] there's questions that the residents are

[50:38] raising that haven't been adequately

[50:40] answered, maybe we can address those,

[50:41] too. Because ultimately, I think that's

[50:43] what the public process is supposed to

[50:44] be about, not just giving people a

[50:46] microphone, but actually listening what

[50:48] they have to say. Thank you.

[50:51] >> Thank you very much.

[51:03] Hi, my name is Kimberly Jackson. I live

[51:05] at 427 Green Mount in Oakwood.

[51:09] I come at it from a little different

[51:10] point of view because I'm not a

[51:12] resident, but I was always taught that

[51:14] elected officials should as best they

[51:16] can and within reason govern their area

[51:19] while respecting the wishes of the

[51:20] constituents who elected them. I do not

[51:23] live in Beaver Creek, so I didn't elect

[51:25] to. But I'm sitting amongst people who

[51:27] did elect to, and they are hurting. They

[51:29] live in a beautiful area of Beaver Creek

[51:31] lined with mature trees and green grass.

[51:34] I drive this stretch of road nearly

[51:35] every day, and it's one of my favorite

[51:37] parts. It's very tranquil. It's easy to

[51:40] navigate. Once a week, I walk a dog that

[51:42] lives on this stretch of Shaker Town.

[51:44] So, although I didn't elect you, I'm

[51:46] very invested in the area. As long as

[51:49] I've followed this saga, I've yet to

[51:51] hear any citizens speak in favor of the

[51:53] road widening a or the sidewalk

[51:55] installation project. What I have heard

[51:58] is lots of people opposed to it. They've

[52:00] gathered facts, respectfully come to

[52:02] meeting after meeting to state their

[52:04] case, and they continue to be met with

[52:06] opposition from council to reconsider

[52:08] the project. At the last meeting, one

[52:11] member somewhat sarcastically said

[52:12] something like, "I think we all know the

[52:14] process by now." I found that comment

[52:17] incredibly disrespectful to those who

[52:19] are doing their best to help you

[52:20] understand their concerns. Why do you

[52:23] insist on spending money on a project

[52:25] that doesn't fix an identified problem?

[52:27] Yeah, it's great when the state pays for

[52:29] a portion of a project, but you're still

[52:31] spending a million dollars of your own

[52:33] money to solve a problem that doesn't

[52:35] even exist. I encourage you to spend

[52:37] some time on this stretch of road. Park

[52:39] on one of the side streets. Watch the

[52:41] traffic patterns. Look at how much

[52:43] you're taking from citizens who trusted

[52:44] you to keep their best interest in mind.

[52:47] Once you see the effects of a pro of a

[52:49] proposed project that no one wants, I

[52:51] pray you change your collective minds

[52:53] and cancel this project. Thank you.

[52:55] >> Thank you.

[52:59] [applause]

[53:08] » Bill Keller, 3140 Shaker Town Road.

[53:12] I'm asking you to look at Shaker Town

[53:14] Road based on the traffic and safety

[53:15] problems that actually exist today, not

[53:18] an assumption about what might happen

[53:19] years from now. Before the city takes

[53:22] people's property and spends millions of

[53:24] dollars, I believe residents deserve

[53:26] clear evidence that this project is

[53:28] necessary.

[53:29] Where is the documented traffic problem

[53:31] on the particular section of Shakertown

[53:33] Road that requires widening it from two

[53:35] lanes to three? Where is the congestion

[53:37] that requires a sitter turn line? or is

[53:40] the crash history demonstrating that

[53:42] this turn lane even is necessary? I'm

[53:44] not asking the city to ignore legitimate

[53:46] safety or maintenance problems. If there

[53:49] are specific drainage problems, fix the

[53:51] drainage. If there are specific

[53:52] dangerous locations, fix those

[53:54] locations. If the pavement needs repair, the pavement. But that is very

[53:58] different from reconstructioning the

[54:00] entire corridor with curbs, gutters,

[54:02] storm sewers, and a center turn lane

[54:04] when the existing traffic does not

[54:06] justify that scale of project. And I

[54:08] want to be very clear about the center

[54:10] turning. I don't believe residents

[54:12] should lose property and have their

[54:13] neighborhood changed for a lane that

[54:15] hasn't been demonstrated to be

[54:18] necessarily demonstrated to be

[54:22] necessary by current traffic conditions.

[54:24] If the justification is future

[54:26] development, then show us the

[54:27] development. Show us the traffic

[54:29] projection. Show us the assumptions and

[54:32] show us why residents today should bear

[54:34] the permanent impacts.

[54:36] The same applies to curbs and gutters.

[54:38] If there's an actual drains problem,

[54:40] demonstrate it and address it. But

[54:41] please don't tell residents that an

[54:43] expensive urban style reconstruction is

[54:45] necessary simply because it's part of

[54:47] preferred design. We are asking for

[54:50] smaller, more appropriate solutions.

[54:52] Maintain the existing roadway. Address

[54:54] documented drainage or safety issues

[54:57] where they actually occur. Do not add a

[54:59] center lane unless the traffic and crash

[55:02] data demonstrate that it's needed. and

[55:04] do not install curbs and gutters simply

[55:06] because they included in the current

[55:07] design. Please don't build a road for

[55:09] traffic we don't have. Spend the

[55:11] taxpayers money on problems that

[55:12] actually exist. And before this project

[55:15] moves forward, I respectfully ask

[55:17] councelor to require the city to

[55:19] publicly provide the traffic counts,

[55:21] crash data, traffic projections, cost

[55:23] benefit analysis and analyses and

[55:25] alternative analysis supporting every

[55:28] major component of this project. If the

[55:31] city removes the sitter turnling, curbs,

[55:33] gutters, and unnecessary widening, what

[55:35] documented existing problem would remain

[55:38] unsolved? And what evidence proves that

[55:40] problem requires a larger project?

[55:44] >> That's all I have.

[55:45] >> Thank you.

[55:57] Thank God for God.

[56:00] Mr. Mayor, Council Member Clary Hill,

[56:04] 658 Waverly Drive,

[56:07] I'm against this project. I guess you're

[56:09] getting tired of looking at me, but I'll

[56:13] be here long till we decided on

[56:15] something.

[56:17] But I think we should cancel this.

[56:22] All we're doing is going to make it more

[56:24] dangerous. I've got to go across another

[56:27] lane to go one way or the other.

[56:33] And I think Beaver Creek's beautiful

[56:36] right now.

[56:40] And it seemed to me like it buckers want

[56:44] to steal Beaver Creek and you want to

[56:47] steal my land

[56:50] and I'm against it.

[56:54] You looking good tonight, hun.

[56:57] But I would you take in consideration to

[57:01] disregard this

[57:04] strip of Checker Town Road.

[57:08] I think you're taking my life

[57:12] and putting it in danger.

[57:19] You just don't say nothing to me. It's

[57:22] your comment time.

[57:23] >> Huh?

[57:24] >> This is your time to comment. It's not

[57:25] our time to go back and forth.

[57:26] >> I'd like to hear a little comment. Shut

[57:29] my mouth and sit down or something.

[57:32] >> I'm not asking you to do that. Ask you

[57:34] to.

[57:35] >> But I would I would appreciate the

[57:37] council member, the new mayor that you

[57:40] table this job. We don't need it. All

[57:43] we're doing is creating and going to

[57:45] make

[57:47] they'll change the name if they put that

[57:49] through from Bieber Creek to concrete

[57:53] because they want to put two sidewalks,

[57:56] one on each side of the road

[57:59] and we don't need them. I've lived there

[58:02] 58 years and I see one person maybe once

[58:06] every month or two walk up Checker Town

[58:09] Road. [clears throat]

[58:13] But I wish you would take consideration

[58:16] and cancel this project.

[58:19] I think it's a waste of money.

[58:35] Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. And I've

[58:39] been up here many times to talk about

[58:40] this thing, but I'm going to point out a

[58:43] couple of different things. Very

[58:45] disappointed with the way you're

[58:46] handling the city residents money.

[58:50] There's a lack of accountability.

[58:53] And I'm going to talk to some of the

[58:55] residents that we have here and I'm

[58:56] going to recommend that we change the charter to where all levies will go

[59:02] back to a finite period of time defined

[59:05] rather than a open-end perpetual levy.

[59:09] That way we're going to take control

[59:11] back from that. I'm also going to urge

[59:14] and I know I've talked to a lot of folks

[59:16] and a lot of folks have talked to me

[59:18] that they are not in favor of the s the

[59:20] income tax primarily because of what you

[59:23] folks are doing think why are we going

[59:25] to give them more money to do more stuff

[59:27] that we don't want so you need to take

[59:30] heed of that and the other thing I'm

[59:32] going to be talking with some of these

[59:33] folks over here there's a 1-800 number

[59:35] that is available and we can notify the

[59:39] federal government because they can come

[59:42] and do an investigation on the state

[59:45] which gets the federal money and the

[59:47] state will come back and look at you

[59:49] folks and make sure that you are uh

[59:52] looking at everything and listening to

[59:54] the residents. You folks have gone

[59:57] beyond acceptable to this city and I'm

[1:00:01] calling you on it as is everybody else

[1:00:04] that's here and there's a lot of other

[1:00:05] folks that are not here that that are

[1:00:08] not happy with you. There's a lot of

[1:00:10] folks that see this video that goes up

[1:00:12] there and they they said, "We saw you

[1:00:15] talking. We saw everybody up there

[1:00:16] talking. It's getting people's attention

[1:00:19] and it's not getting yours. So, what is

[1:00:21] wrong with you folks?" Mr. Mayor, you're

[1:00:24] sitting in the big chair over there. You

[1:00:26] need to let the folks that go out there

[1:00:29] and look at the projects and everything

[1:00:31] else like that or expect projects to go

[1:00:33] in there and make darn sure that they

[1:00:36] cover everything honestly and accurately

[1:00:38] and go back and talk to the residents in

[1:00:41] there. So, I've said my piece with you

[1:00:44] folks, but I thinking that it's going to

[1:00:47] get a little bit ugly. And oh, by the

[1:00:49] way, this is the first time all of you

[1:00:50] have been looking at me because usually

[1:00:52] you're looking down and not. So that's a

[1:00:55] big improvement. Thank you very much.

[1:00:58] THANK YOU

[1:01:09] after after hearing Oh, wait. First, my

[1:01:12] name is Kathy Bower. 3497 Shaker Town

[1:01:16] Road. um on the the other side of

[1:01:20] Fairfield that's being affected.

[1:01:23] After hearing everybody, I start feeling

[1:01:26] a little bit silly about the things that

[1:01:28] I wrote because I wrote more from a

[1:01:32] let's try to all get along

[1:01:35] kind of thing and I'm going to go ahead

[1:01:36] and read it. Um, but I do agree that if

[1:01:41] the project is not truly needed, which I

[1:01:45] don't feel it is, it shouldn't it should

[1:01:49] be able to be tabled. Um,

[1:01:53] I'm kind of a rule follower

[1:01:56] and as soon as I heard, well, we've

[1:01:59] already invested money, we've already

[1:02:01] got the, you know, everything in

[1:02:04] process, we can't go back. Then I just

[1:02:08] kind of accepted that uh maybe too

[1:02:12] easily. But I'm going to go ahead and

[1:02:15] read my speech.

[1:02:17] It feels like everyone in this room is

[1:02:20] tired of stating their concerns

[1:02:23] and you all must be tired of hearing

[1:02:25] them.

[1:02:27] I hope you have really heard our

[1:02:30] complaints and are working on ways to

[1:02:33] compromise.

[1:02:34] In fact, I believe that you have to some

[1:02:36] degree. I'll be interested to hear your

[1:02:40] suggestions.

[1:02:41] All of us have bought our homes with

[1:02:43] high hopes of creating our homesteads

[1:02:47] and possibly raising our kids on this

[1:02:50] quiet street.

[1:02:52] And for many years, that's just what it

[1:02:54] has been.

[1:02:56] We all signed those papers when we

[1:02:58] bought our properties accepting the fact

[1:03:01] that there's easements and city can come

[1:03:05] in and take a certain amount

[1:03:09] uh of your property. Sometimes it's only

[1:03:13] temporary. We're going to dig here,

[1:03:17] cover it back up, and then go away. Um

[1:03:24] we understood

[1:03:27] Oh, I went off topic. Um, we understood

[1:03:32] that there may be a need for

[1:03:33] right-of-way easements, some of which

[1:03:36] would be just a temporary disruption.

[1:03:41] But this this feels like the city is

[1:03:43] overstepping.

[1:03:45] Some of these houses have are already

[1:03:48] very very close to the road and now

[1:03:51] they're facing the fact that the road

[1:03:52] will be that much closer to their front

[1:03:56] doors.

[1:03:57] It's certainly understandable that this

[1:03:59] situation would offend the sensibilities

[1:04:02] of these families.

[1:04:05] My husband and I have lived on Shaker

[1:04:07] Town Road since 1982.

[1:04:10] We raised our daughters here and always

[1:04:13] reminded them of the dangers of the

[1:04:16] road. More than once, we've had cars

[1:04:19] lose control and end up in our front

[1:04:22] yard.

[1:04:25] Now, imagine how we feel about having

[1:04:27] the road that much closer to our front

[1:04:30] steps.

[1:04:32] Not to mention the road sounds from the

[1:04:34] traffic that much closer,

[1:04:37] that much louder. Of course there will

[1:04:40] be push back.

[1:04:42] >> Do you have much more? I'm I don't want

[1:04:44] to interrupt but

[1:04:45] >> don't donate.

[1:04:46] >> Okay. Come to the

[1:04:49] >> Sorry.

[1:04:51] 97 Shaker Town Road. I donate my time.

[1:04:54] >> Thank you.

[1:04:56] >> Um

[1:04:59] >> Okay.

[1:05:05] My husband and I have lived on Shaker

[1:05:07] Town since 1982. We raised our daughters

[1:05:09] here and always reminded them of the

[1:05:11] dangers of the road. More than once,

[1:05:13] we've had cars lose control and end up

[1:05:16] in our front yard. Now, imagine how we

[1:05:20] feel about having the road that much

[1:05:21] closer to our front steps. Not to

[1:05:24] mention the road sounds from the traffic

[1:05:26] that much closer, that much louder. Of

[1:05:30] course there'll there will be push back

[1:05:33] but we signed those papers

[1:05:37] that we

[1:05:41] not that we had a choice.

[1:05:43] We are just requesting that you limit

[1:05:46] the amount. We understand that

[1:05:48] occasionally we may need to accept these

[1:05:51] changes, but I don't think that this

[1:05:54] plan took into consideration

[1:05:56] just how many beautiful mature trees

[1:05:59] would be destroyed, changing the face of

[1:06:03] our properties.

[1:06:05] Some of us have planted trees and hedges

[1:06:07] in order to better protect our children

[1:06:09] and ourselves.

[1:06:12] I know that you have already invested

[1:06:14] time and money in this program and that

[1:06:16] you can't just back out. I get that.

[1:06:21] All I'm asking is that you adjust your

[1:06:23] plans back a bit. I would like I would

[1:06:27] also like before and after drawings of

[1:06:30] what this would look like. I would love

[1:06:33] to see you allowing

[1:06:35] roundt talks where we can sit and chat

[1:06:40] and brainstorm together.

[1:06:43] Giving people a more intimate setting,

[1:06:47] not like the meetings here where

[1:06:52] you all sit up there and listen and we

[1:06:54] all take our turn standing at the

[1:06:56] microphone. It creates an us and them

[1:07:00] atmosphere.

[1:07:02] You are not our enemy. In the long run,

[1:07:05] change will happen. It's inevitable.

[1:07:08] Some people will be pleased. Some people

[1:07:11] will be appeased.

[1:07:13] And some people will be unhappy.

[1:07:16] But at least people will know that they

[1:07:18] feel or feel that they are truly heard.

[1:07:22] They'll know that they tried. It would

[1:07:25] bring them some sense of control.

[1:07:28] This would go a long way to settling the

[1:07:31] minds and hearts of those affected.

[1:07:34] Thank you.

[1:07:36] >> Thank you.

[1:07:46] » I promise not to take more than three

[1:07:48] minutes.

[1:07:49] My name is Barbara Massie and I live at

[1:07:52] 743 Timberwood Drive in Beaver Creek.

[1:07:56] um

[1:07:58] to leave my home. I take Greer to

[1:08:02] Fairfield.

[1:08:04] More than likely, I take Shaker I take

[1:08:07] Timberwood to Shaker Town and turn left

[1:08:11] or right there because there's less

[1:08:13] traffic.

[1:08:15] Fairfield. And I realize a lot of it is

[1:08:19] because of congestion and backup from

[1:08:21] the ever ongoing construction on

[1:08:25] Fairfield, but there is more traffic on

[1:08:30] Fairfield. I never have a problem

[1:08:32] getting out on Shaker Town. To say we

[1:08:36] need to increase

[1:08:38] the size of Shaker Town, I don't see it.

[1:08:43] to say we need sidewalks.

[1:08:48] I dare you to go out there and count the

[1:08:50] people walking on Shaker Town. You're

[1:08:53] going to be sitting there all day not

[1:08:54] seeing anyone.

[1:08:57] They don't need sidewalks. They don't

[1:08:59] need sidewalks on both sides of the

[1:09:01] street for people who aren't going to

[1:09:03] walk. There's no businesses.

[1:09:07] Yeah, there's a church there

[1:09:09] operating on Sunday mornings, but there

[1:09:12] are not people walking.

[1:09:15] They don't need all of this extra stuff

[1:09:18] going on.

[1:09:22] Consider if you lived on Shaker Town or

[1:09:24] just off Shaker Town. How would you feel

[1:09:28] about all of this land being taken to

[1:09:32] increase the side of a road that

[1:09:36] doesn't have the traffic to support it

[1:09:40] and sidewalks with nobody to walk on

[1:09:42] them?

[1:09:44] They're losing their property

[1:09:48] because of something that I myself

[1:09:51] cannot see

[1:09:54] being needed. Um

[1:09:58] I worked under a government agent for

[1:10:00] many years here. I understand the

[1:10:04] protocol

[1:10:05] and the

[1:10:08] right of dominant domain and stuff but

[1:10:14] you have to consider the lives that are

[1:10:16] being affected at the same time and is

[1:10:20] it worth it? I personally do not feel it

[1:10:23] is and I'm hoping I'll be able to

[1:10:26] continue to go to Shaker Town and get

[1:10:30] out of my development. Thank you.

[1:10:33] >> Thank you.

[1:10:42] » Please come to the microphone if you

[1:10:45] don't mind.

[1:10:48] Joe Volani, 710 Carlsbrook Drive, and

[1:10:51] I'm going to donate my time to Heather.

[1:10:53] Thank you.

[1:10:57] I'll let you

[1:11:03] » Heather Harvey, 3180, Shaker Town. It's

[1:11:06] ironic that I opened up my last comments

[1:11:07] to you all with a line about your

[1:11:09] complete lack of respect for us. Because

[1:11:11] as I'm sure you all remember, just the

[1:11:13] before I spoke, the mayor asked me if I

[1:11:15] received your letter and then proceeded

[1:11:17] to basically tell me, my neighbors, this

[1:11:19] city, and the media that none of this

[1:11:21] mattered. The message was loud and

[1:11:23] clear. Let me let me remind you that we

[1:11:25] are just as tired of coming here as you

[1:11:27] are of listening to us. We all have

[1:11:29] families, too. I could list a thousand

[1:11:31] things I'd rather be doing than standing

[1:11:33] here. But someone has to stick up for

[1:11:35] what it's right. It's a shame it's none

[1:11:36] of you. Aren't several of you at risk of

[1:11:39] losing your seat next year? I heard

[1:11:41] there's an election coming up. Is that

[1:11:43] why none of you are brave enough to

[1:11:45] speak up? Trust me, doing the right

[1:11:47] thing will prove to this city that their

[1:11:48] vote should be for you and not somebody

[1:11:50] new. I would be ashamed to have my name

[1:11:53] associated with approving projects based

[1:11:55] on lies, outdated facts, and just going

[1:11:58] with the flow so as to not rock the

[1:12:00] boat. The only problem is that this boat

[1:12:02] is sinking. Word gets around and people

[1:12:04] are starting to ask more questions. When

[1:12:06] this room continues to fill up week

[1:12:09] after week. Don't say I told you so.

[1:12:12] What would you do if you were in our

[1:12:13] shoes? I'll tell you something that's

[1:12:15] really bothered me. Since I stood right

[1:12:17] there in this room in the PI meeting in

[1:12:19] August of 2025, I stood in a room

[1:12:22] surrounded by tons of i8 people. All but

[1:12:25] one person was in opposition. Anybody

[1:12:27] want to take a stab who that person was?

[1:12:30] She just so happens to be sitting up

[1:12:31] there with you. You can imagine my

[1:12:34] surprise when a few weeks later I found

[1:12:35] out she was elected to council. It's no

[1:12:38] wonder she was cheerleading this

[1:12:39] project. Huh. Something else that didn't

[1:12:42] sit well with me was that there was a

[1:12:43] man from ODOT there who just argued with

[1:12:45] us. He told us that our facts were

[1:12:47] opinions. I guess quoting traffic counts

[1:12:50] from ODOT's very own website and crash

[1:12:53] data obtained from our chief of police.

[1:12:55] Him right there. Those are just matters

[1:12:58] of opinions and not straight facts. Nah,

[1:13:01] it's the cold, hard truth, and it's time

[1:13:03] you guys admit it. Stop perpetuating

[1:13:05] these lies. This is only getting worse

[1:13:07] as time goes on. You're making

[1:13:09] yourselves look even more ridiculous by

[1:13:11] sending us letters with more lies. We

[1:13:13] all know this project won't be done in

[1:13:14] 12 months. So, for every day over a

[1:13:16] year, are we allowed to bill you? Or how

[1:13:19] about the BS statement regarding needing

[1:13:21] to quote support the growing city? Who

[1:13:23] proofread that letter? You do realize

[1:13:25] how stupid it sounds to claim this

[1:13:27] project is needed, right? Because

[1:13:28] despite the fact that this population

[1:13:30] has increased, traffic data doesn't

[1:13:32] support that. Shaker Town has

[1:13:34] maintained. Sounds like you all are the

[1:13:36] ones with the opinions. This project

[1:13:38] isn't built on facts. It's driven by

[1:13:41] opinions. This is a classic version of a

[1:13:43] want and not a need. I'd like to

[1:13:46] publicly acknowledge that one of you

[1:13:48] made a point uh excuse me, to confront

[1:13:51] one of us in a very uncomfortable

[1:13:53] manner. Not only did you abuse your

[1:13:55] quote position of power by humiliating

[1:13:57] my friend, but you dropped my name and

[1:14:00] called me a liar. Let's be real clear

[1:14:02] here. Everything I've said here has been

[1:14:04] factual. It's hilarious that you said

[1:14:06] you were offended we've been calling you

[1:14:07] liars when you literally stood there and

[1:14:09] called me one. Are we in kindergarten?

[1:14:11] How about you come say those words to my

[1:14:13] face and let's have a real conversation.

[1:14:15] How about all of you get your acts

[1:14:16] together and start behaving yourselves

[1:14:18] in public gatherings? Approaching

[1:14:20] someone in public doing what you did is

[1:14:23] not very becoming of a publicly

[1:14:24] appointed official. This city deserves

[1:14:26] better. Shame on you and shame on all of

[1:14:29] you. This is playing out exactly like

[1:14:31] you see on TV. The crooked politicians

[1:14:33] go around town paying people off,

[1:14:35] bullying them to give up and join their

[1:14:37] side. I'm here to tell you, we are not

[1:14:40] giving up or giving in. You can continue

[1:14:42] going around insulting my character and

[1:14:44] my integrity all you want, but if you

[1:14:46] expect I won't be here on Monday nights

[1:14:48] to give it right back, you're mistaken.

[1:14:50] What's clear is you aren't listening.

[1:14:52] And your public humiliation event, you

[1:14:54] had the nerve to ask, quote, "What do

[1:14:56] they want?" As a concerned nurse, I mean

[1:14:58] this with all due respect, are any of

[1:15:00] you deaf? Did you black out during these

[1:15:03] meetings? Have we not been perfectly

[1:15:05] clear? Facts are not lies or opinions.

[1:15:08] This stupid project was created to fix

[1:15:11] two problems that we have time and time

[1:15:13] again proven do not exist. So call it

[1:15:15] what you want. A lie, an oversight, a

[1:15:18] mistake, fraud, irresponsible. It isn't

[1:15:21] too late to stop this project. Quit

[1:15:23] gaslighting us with the penalty you will

[1:15:25] face and accept responsibility for what

[1:15:27] you've done. Start pursuing projects

[1:15:30] that this city actually needs instead of

[1:15:32] what you want. Everyone at home need

[1:15:36] listening needs to hear this. These

[1:15:37] people sitting up here do not care what

[1:15:39] we want. They take credit for one minor

[1:15:42] change in a project that I personally

[1:15:45] spent hours fighting for. I made all the

[1:15:47] calls. I did all the research. I sent

[1:15:50] all the emails. If this bothers you as

[1:15:52] much as it does me, please contact me.

[1:15:55] Show up here next meeting and join us in

[1:15:56] our fight for what's right because

[1:15:58] Beaver Creek deserves better. Oh, and

[1:16:00] PS. Nice try claiming the reduction in

[1:16:02] the shared use path was driven by your

[1:16:04] efforts. You didn't have the money to

[1:16:07] pay m Mr. Whiteiser for the depreciation

[1:16:09] of his property. So you had to tuck your

[1:16:11] tails and find another solution. Backing

[1:16:14] off his land meant you didn't owe him.

[1:16:16] And thus the 8oot path was born. Yeah, I

[1:16:18] get you bet you didn't know that. Bet

[1:16:20] they didn't tell you that. That's what

[1:16:23] happened. You were supposed to pay him

[1:16:25] and you didn't have the money to do it.

[1:16:26] So that's why you had to back off his

[1:16:28] land and that's where you got to the

[1:16:29] eight foot path. Funny you forgot to

[1:16:32] mention that in your letter of lies. I

[1:16:34] guess telling the truth is too hard. I

[1:16:35] guess sitting in those seats give you

[1:16:37] some kind of immunity. And I guess

[1:16:39] Beaver Creek isn't the city I thought it

[1:16:40] was. Yesterday I saw a poster that I

[1:16:43] thought was applies to the situation.

[1:16:45] You can't change the cards you're dealt

[1:16:46] just the way you play the hands. In

[1:16:49] closing, you asked me if I got your

[1:16:51] letter last time. Well, I got a second

[1:16:53] letter from you guys, and I

[1:16:55] wholeheartedly appreciate your efforts

[1:16:56] to silent me. Game on.

[1:17:15] Uh my name is Ian Crow. I live on 2121

[1:17:19] Prudence Drive, Bever Creek, Ohio.

[1:17:22] Uh my um complaint is that these new

[1:17:26] ebikes that are riding around that kids

[1:17:28] love and stuff and I understand because

[1:17:30] I'm a kid at heart, but technically it's

[1:17:33] kind of causing a nuisance. For one, I'm

[1:17:36] afraid that I'm going to get run over by these and get seriously hurt. And

[1:17:41] I've read reports that some of these

[1:17:43] bikes malfunction and blow up and stuff.

[1:17:47] But the re reason why I say this, like

[1:17:50] shouldn't, seeing how these bikes have

[1:17:52] motors, shouldn't you have a license for

[1:17:54] this? Because a moped has a motor, you

[1:17:57] have to ride it on the street with a

[1:18:00] license, but the kids are riding on the

[1:18:03] walk path, which I understand,

[1:18:06] but basically saying is like I see these

[1:18:09] I see kids riding their bike on the

[1:18:11] special needs park that I uh practice

[1:18:14] softball on and there are marks on the

[1:18:16] turf and I'm g and and I'm trying to

[1:18:20] save the taxpayers money by saying, "Why

[1:18:23] are you destroying And these and these

[1:18:25] bikes are kind of made like dirt bikes.

[1:18:28] I mean, you see kids wearing dirt bike

[1:18:31] helmets because then you know that these

[1:18:32] bikes go 20 miles to 28 miles per hour.

[1:18:36] Someone can get seriously hurt.

[1:18:40] And I understand Councilman Upton said

[1:18:43] to me that they they are looking into

[1:18:45] it, but I for one am worried about my

[1:18:48] safety. I mean, I understand I can't

[1:18:50] drive myself because of my um learning

[1:18:54] challenges, but there has to be

[1:18:57] responsibility. I understand kids want

[1:18:58] to have fun. It's like riding a

[1:19:00] motorcycle and stuff, but with great

[1:19:02] power comes great responsibility.

[1:19:05] And like I said, if kids want to ride

[1:19:07] it, then get a license. If the

[1:19:10] insurance, if you need insurance, well,

[1:19:12] that's up to the parents. And that's Oh,

[1:19:15] and one other thing that um When I walk

[1:19:19] on the walk path to my job at Lowe's or

[1:19:22] when I'm walking from there, there are a

[1:19:24] lot of cracks like sideway cracks all

[1:19:27] the way up close to Speedway and I can

[1:19:29] put my whole foot in there. And I would

[1:19:32] ask that uh money would be used to fill

[1:19:35] up those cracks because if I ride my

[1:19:37] regular bike, I'm afraid that I'm going

[1:19:38] to get hurt and seriously hurt and I

[1:19:41] don't want to cause the taxpayers money

[1:19:43] and stuff. I'm looking out for myself

[1:19:46] and others. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:19:57] » Hello, Lori Volani, 710 Carlbrook.

[1:20:02] Um, of course, about Shaker Town. We've

[1:20:05] come before you now repeatedly to ask

[1:20:07] for this project to be cancelled because

[1:20:09] you all are elected, our elected

[1:20:12] representatives. You were elected to

[1:20:14] represent us, not people who might be

[1:20:17] driving on Shaker Town 10 years from

[1:20:19] now, but to represent those who live

[1:20:21] along there now, not drivers in the

[1:20:24] future, um, but us, the current

[1:20:26] residents who have chosen to live on

[1:20:28] Shaker Town or just off the road and

[1:20:30] drive it every day. Um, we see the

[1:20:33] number of vehicles that drive on this

[1:20:35] road. We know that we have little

[1:20:37] difficulty getting on and off of

[1:20:38] Carl'sbrook, on and off of Merrick. We

[1:20:41] see there's a nominal amount of

[1:20:42] driveways and roads which require a left

[1:20:45] turn to enter. On the south side of

[1:20:47] Shaker Town, there's three roads and I

[1:20:49] believe approximately eight driveways.

[1:20:51] Um on the north side of Shaker Town

[1:20:53] where we are, there's only two roads and

[1:20:56] seven driveways.

[1:20:58] In your letter that you sent to us, you

[1:21:00] stated about the growth of Beaver Creek.

[1:21:02] I know Beaver Creek has grown. The

[1:21:04] subdivision on the north side of Shaker

[1:21:06] Town, uh where we live, has has room for

[1:21:08] no more houses. It's built out. The

[1:21:10] housing area on the south side of Shaker

[1:21:13] Town also can't have any more building

[1:21:15] unless there's something that you all

[1:21:16] aren't telling us. So along this route,

[1:21:18] the number of left turns, there really

[1:21:20] can't be any more left turns than there

[1:21:22] already are. Um, we turn left frequently

[1:21:25] off of Shaker Town and it is a rare

[1:21:27] occurrence that there is a car behind us

[1:21:29] that is being delayed because we had to

[1:21:32] slow down to make our turn. So just

[1:21:34] because Beaver Creek is growing and and

[1:21:36] I I grew up in Beaver Creek, it is

[1:21:38] growing, but that doesn't mean it's

[1:21:40] growing around by us because it has not

[1:21:42] been not anymore. Um my understanding is

[1:21:45] that you apply for this grant with uh

[1:21:47] numbers that were based on the

[1:21:49] pre-reconfiguration of Shakertown um and

[1:21:52] 35. If this is not the case, please show

[1:21:54] us that my mother has lived on Shaker

[1:21:57] Town for 55 years. We've lived just off

[1:22:00] Shaker Town for six and we just do not

[1:22:02] see the traffic volume whether we're

[1:22:03] driving or just sitting in our backyard.

[1:22:07] Also, in your letter, you noted that you

[1:22:08] had spent almost a million dollars. But

[1:22:10] if you would have come to us first

[1:22:12] before you spent anything and had a

[1:22:15] meeting with the affected citizens and

[1:22:16] listen to what our concerns were as our

[1:22:19] elected representatives, you could have

[1:22:21] saved that money. Um, I can personally

[1:22:23] tell you that if my husband and I felt

[1:22:25] this project was necessary, we would

[1:22:27] support it. So, I just wonder, I mean,

[1:22:29] do you not hold a meeting because you

[1:22:31] knew we would be against it, and so you

[1:22:33] might not have gotten what you all

[1:22:35] wanted, which was a nice wider road. Um,

[1:22:38] if that's the case, then you're just

[1:22:40] pushing your desires on us.

[1:22:43] The last time the city income tax was on

[1:22:45] the ballot, I voted for it, even though

[1:22:47] it would have negatively affected me

[1:22:49] because at that time, I worked in the

[1:22:51] city. And of course, I live in the city,

[1:22:53] but I'm not going to vote for it this

[1:22:54] time because you're using our money

[1:22:57] against us on pushing this road project

[1:22:59] onto us that we do not want. So my hope

[1:23:02] is um if you go through one little two

[1:23:06] lines, my hope is that if you go through

[1:23:08] with this project, those of you on

[1:23:09] council will drive this project in this

[1:23:12] road a lot because you can then enjoy

[1:23:14] the sterile sterile roadway, the

[1:23:17] wonderful three lanes, curbs, and no

[1:23:19] trees because those of us who live there

[1:23:21] will not be enjoying it. Thank you.

[1:23:23] >> Thank you.

[1:23:35] Hi there. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and

[1:23:37] Council members. Lisa Nybert, 2970

[1:23:39] Shakertown Road. Hi. I'm here again in

[1:23:43] opposition to the road winding project.

[1:23:47] Our city has a responsibility to

[1:23:48] maintain our streets. This area of

[1:23:51] Shaker Town, this 68 miles

[1:23:55] has been neglected for about nine years

[1:23:57] or more. I would like to know why

[1:24:00] officially from documentation.

[1:24:04] I would like to know why when it had

[1:24:07] previously been scheduled for

[1:24:08] reservicing, what the budget was and why

[1:24:11] it was not completed.

[1:24:14] We the residents have provided you

[1:24:16] factual data that you guys cannot

[1:24:19] refute. yet you repudate the data and

[1:24:22] have stated that you are proceeding with

[1:24:23] the project. I think that was

[1:24:26] blatantly clear in our letter we got a

[1:24:28] few weeks ago that it is going forward

[1:24:33] tonight where we are at actually

[1:24:38] this area of Shakertown does need

[1:24:39] maintenance resurfacing and storm sewer

[1:24:42] improvements.

[1:24:44] I believe these things are all covered

[1:24:46] slashfunded by our current street

[1:24:48] levies.

[1:24:50] Project 119964

[1:24:52] is not past the point of no build.

[1:24:57] Beaver Creek has not received the funds,

[1:24:58] the federal funds, so you don't have to

[1:25:00] give it back.

[1:25:03] Your current expenditures are already

[1:25:05] over budget.

[1:25:08] That won't be a total loss as you can

[1:25:10] still use much of the engineering design

[1:25:14] drawings that have been spent that $1

[1:25:16] million on so far towards the necessary

[1:25:19] storm drainage and resurfacing and

[1:25:23] overall traffic needs. Just not this

[1:25:26] particular project.

[1:25:29] The federal funds applied for sadly were

[1:25:32] the wrong funds.

[1:25:35] In my opinion, as a citizen and as a

[1:25:38] business owner who's done government

[1:25:39] contracting for my entire life, what you

[1:25:43] are faced with right now is you need to

[1:25:46] withdraw your application.

[1:25:52] With all the newer information, you can

[1:25:54] apply for a correct grant that will do

[1:25:57] what we need done and ease the burden of

[1:25:59] the taxpayers.

[1:26:02] When I do my job wrong, if I make

[1:26:04] choices for my business and my

[1:26:06] business's future without doing my due

[1:26:08] diligence, I have to accept and manage

[1:26:10] my way through the consequences. And

[1:26:13] that is what I'm expecting Beaver Creek.

[1:26:15] I say Beaver Creek, all parties, you is

[1:26:19] the whole of it. I'm expecting you guys

[1:26:22] to do that. It's not devastating. It

[1:26:25] won't be pleasant experience, but it's

[1:26:28] still good business. Be responsible and

[1:26:30] do what's best for our city. Thank you.

[1:26:52] Rex Turner, 1456 New Way Drive. I know

[1:26:55] you my time to

[1:26:58] >> Thank you.

[1:27:00] >> Um,

[1:27:02] good evening, Mr. Mayor and city council

[1:27:04] members. Uh, my name is Gary Dunl. I

[1:27:06] live at 340 Shakertown Road, and I stand

[1:27:08] before you in 100% opposition to the

[1:27:10] Shakertown Road improvements project ID

[1:27:13] number 119964.

[1:27:15] Uh our group opposes this waste of local

[1:27:17] taxpayer funds and federal funds. Uh and

[1:27:20] we've consistently brought to your all's

[1:27:22] attention multiple times facts that that

[1:27:26] don't support the project and and you've

[1:27:29] heard more of them tonight. So, uh,

[1:27:31] additionally, I'm going to give each of

[1:27:33] you some some hard copy of some stuff

[1:27:38] and

[1:27:42] give you some some something to look at

[1:27:45] and and and so it's just these facts are

[1:27:49] just overwhelmingly um I I don't know

[1:27:52] how you guys as a group can sit here and

[1:27:55] look at these facts and listen to the

[1:27:57] facts that your engineering department

[1:27:59] has given you and have any any clue of why you would even approve this

[1:28:04] thing. It's just absurd. Um so, uh

[1:28:08] number one, uh the MVRP funding

[1:28:11] application, first page of what I gave

[1:28:14] you all, um states on there that that

[1:28:18] the urban major collector, the the third

[1:28:21] highlighted area there is 5,300 vehicles

[1:28:24] per day. And that is not even correct.

[1:28:27] If you'll look on the data that I've

[1:28:28] supplied attached to that, there's no

[1:28:31] 5,300 vehicle per day count on there.

[1:28:35] So, your engineering department is just

[1:28:37] making up numbers and throwing them on

[1:28:38] there. Number one. Number two, that

[1:28:41] whole that whole thing was based on based on

[1:28:46] pre Shaker Town Road 35 access. Um, if

[1:28:51] you look at the counts today, um, our

[1:28:54] counts have gone from like our traffic

[1:28:57] counts have gone from like, you know,

[1:28:59] 6,300 cars a day. Um, back in back in

[1:29:03] 2016 to 2019, 2020, they dropped to

[1:29:07] like, you know, 3,300 uh, per day. So,

[1:29:11] why are we spending $5 million to put in

[1:29:13] a new twothirds of a mile roadway? I

[1:29:16] mean, what sense does that make? Can any

[1:29:19] of you tell me that? I don't think it

[1:29:20] can. Um the facts speak for themselves,

[1:29:24] you know. I mean, and it goes on. Um in

[1:29:28] the data that I have given you all, it

[1:29:30] gives you specific year by year by year

[1:29:33] from 25 all the way back to um

[1:29:38] [clears throat] all the way back to

[1:29:41] 2016.

[1:29:43] Um, this is ODOT information that gives

[1:29:46] you the daily traffic counts of

[1:29:48] Shakertown Road and it's measured right

[1:29:50] there at um um

[1:29:59] » Carthage. Yeah, right there at Carthage.

[1:30:01] That's where the That's where the counts

[1:30:02] are taken. And And it's just I just

[1:30:05] don't

[1:30:07] again half of what it was like six years

[1:30:10] ago. and you all want to spend $5

[1:30:12] million on a road expansion. I mean,

[1:30:15] what sense does that make?

[1:30:18] Can I mean, I'd love to hear an answer

[1:30:20] from you somehow someway. It makes no

[1:30:23] sense whatsoever.

[1:30:25] Um, number two, um, the same application

[1:30:28] is indicated has identified the fund

[1:30:31] source that this project is to be funded

[1:30:33] under is number one. It says again going

[1:30:37] back to the first page that I gave you,

[1:30:39] please identify the fund source you

[1:30:41] anticipate this project to be funded

[1:30:43] under. You're they're saying suggested

[1:30:45] congestion mitigation and air quality.

[1:30:49] What congestion do we have on Shakertown

[1:30:51] Road? And what air quality problems do

[1:30:54] we have on Shaker Town Road? Now, now

[1:30:56] you guys want to take 125 trees out of

[1:30:58] Shakertown Road. Yeah, we're going to

[1:30:59] have some air quality issues, but how

[1:31:02] can you how can you how can you as a

[1:31:04] city council and how can you as a mayor

[1:31:06] allow your engineering department to

[1:31:08] send this kind of crap in? It's false

[1:31:11] information.

[1:31:13] It's absolutely false information.

[1:31:16] I just I it just baffles me that that

[1:31:19] you as a you as a council that are

[1:31:22] responsible for the employees of this

[1:31:24] city can allow this kind of information

[1:31:27] to pass.

[1:31:29] It makes no sense whatsoever. Um

[1:31:33] number three um

[1:31:36] additionally the you know the MBRPC

[1:31:39] application states please or provide a

[1:31:42] short description um of the needs and

[1:31:46] benefits of the project uh and that's

[1:31:49] attached to you go back to like the

[1:31:51] after after the traffic uh reports um I

[1:31:55] think it's like the fifth six page back

[1:31:57] in the space prep below provide a short

[1:31:59] description of the need and benefits of

[1:32:02] this project. So they're saying, your

[1:32:04] engineering department is saying the

[1:32:05] project is needed to provide safe

[1:32:07] passage to the traveling public through

[1:32:10] the corridor of Shakertown Road by

[1:32:12] reducing accidents. We've already been

[1:32:14] through that 10 times. There are no

[1:32:16] accidents on Shakertown Road. There are

[1:32:18] deer strikes, but we don't have

[1:32:20] accidents on Shaker Town Road. But

[1:32:22] they're using that as a basis for $5

[1:32:24] million of expenditure. And what sense

[1:32:27] does that make? Um

[1:32:30] Additionally reading on by reducing

[1:32:32] accidents, reducing congestion. What

[1:32:35] congestion do we have on Shakertown Road

[1:32:38] and improving safety to the general

[1:32:40] public? There's no safety issues. So,

[1:32:42] this is just all being created by your

[1:32:44] engineering department for no reason

[1:32:47] whatsoever other than to spend taxpayers

[1:32:49] money. To spend a million and a half

[1:32:51] dollars of Beaver Creek taxpayer money

[1:32:53] and and $3 million of federal money.

[1:32:56] It's just crazy. How can you guys

[1:32:58] approve this stuff? There's no logic to

[1:33:01] it. There's no facts to it. Uh accidents

[1:33:05] will be reduced. We don't have

[1:33:06] accidents. And safety improved through a

[1:33:09] two two-way turn lane. We don't have

[1:33:12] those issues.

[1:33:14] Um

[1:33:16] number four, um it goes on the next

[1:33:19] page. If you look at project or project

[1:33:21] benefits and complete streets

[1:33:23] discussion, number one project benefits,

[1:33:26] improved traffic flow along Shakertown

[1:33:28] Road. We don't have problems with

[1:33:30] traffic flow. Number two, improved

[1:33:32] safety along Shaker Town Road. We don't

[1:33:34] have safety issues. Improved pedestrian

[1:33:36] access. We don't have pedestrians on

[1:33:38] Chakertown Road. Improved bicycle

[1:33:41] access. We don't have bicycles on Shaker

[1:33:43] Town Road. They are creating all this

[1:33:46] stuff and you guys approve it. How can

[1:33:48] you do that? It's all created. It It's

[1:33:51] just there's no facts to any of this

[1:33:53] stuff. No facts whatsoever. So, um so

[1:33:57] here we are in closing. Uh the facts are

[1:34:00] uh I presented you all again uh to

[1:34:03] reinforce the fact that your engineering

[1:34:04] department has been very very inaccurate

[1:34:07] in the facts that they have used um in

[1:34:10] this application process. And your

[1:34:13] choices are three. You Mr. mayor and you

[1:34:15] city council members do what is

[1:34:18] professionally and ethically correct and

[1:34:20] bring this project to a stop. It's all

[1:34:23] wrong. Number two, if not, you are

[1:34:26] failing in your roles as representatives

[1:34:28] of the citizens of Beaver Creek. We're

[1:34:31] travels fast and I and I suspect that

[1:34:34] many many more citizens of Beaver Creek

[1:34:37] are going to know about your handling of

[1:34:40] this project um if it's not stopped.

[1:34:43] Now, number three,

[1:34:45] you all are are moving us closer to seek

[1:34:48] out alternative means of bringing this

[1:34:50] awful project to anatomy.

[1:34:53] Uh, and I don't want to go there. So,

[1:34:56] uh, I thank you, Mr. Mayor and city

[1:34:58] council members for your time. U, please

[1:35:00] counsel this or cancel this member

[1:35:03] project immediately. It benefits nobody.

[1:35:06] Thank you.

[1:35:06] >> Thank you.

[1:35:19] She's already

[1:35:33] Anyone else?

[1:35:49] again. I am Janice Jacobs, 3040 Dayton

[1:35:52] Xenior Road.

[1:35:55] We've I have just lived through what

[1:35:58] these poor people you're going to make

[1:36:01] live through.

[1:36:04] I've lived through it since the 5th of

[1:36:07] July, 2025

[1:36:11] with the widening

[1:36:13] and the removal and replacement of the

[1:36:17] sidewalks.

[1:36:21] When it started, I believe that

[1:36:25] well, this nightmare is a wonderful

[1:36:26] thing to start going through every

[1:36:29] single day.

[1:36:34] I was paid for five feet of my frontage

[1:36:37] of my yard.

[1:36:40] Next thing I know,

[1:36:43] not only did they take five feet of that

[1:36:45] frontage, they turned around and came up

[1:36:49] my driveway 5T behind what they had paid

[1:36:53] and took out a retaining wall in the

[1:36:56] process.

[1:36:59] I now have water standing in places it

[1:37:03] never has stood before because that dog

[1:37:06] on sidewalk is above grade.

[1:37:10] Every yard just about through that area

[1:37:13] from

[1:37:15] where they started it from the log cabin

[1:37:18] dentistry down to main school all slopes

[1:37:22] down towards the south.

[1:37:25] They built that sidewalk above grade.

[1:37:30] We could at one time before this pull

[1:37:34] directly out onto Dayton Zena

[1:37:38] straight out every house through there

[1:37:40] except for the dentist or not dentist

[1:37:43] but the veterinarian on the hill next to

[1:37:46] me.

[1:37:48] Now we have to go up and over a hump to

[1:37:52] get out on Dayton Zena

[1:37:55] that is acting as a dam.

[1:37:59] On the right side, as I'm facing south,

[1:38:02] on the right side of my driveway, I had

[1:38:05] this lovely

[1:38:07] uh drainage culvert.

[1:38:12] It's now above where the water is

[1:38:15] supposed to be draining.

[1:38:17] Because of this lovely project that you

[1:38:20] guys just finished,

[1:38:22] I now have ponding water in the opposite

[1:38:26] side of the tree that's in my front

[1:38:29] yard,

[1:38:31] big enough that I can put fish in and go

[1:38:33] fishing.

[1:38:34] When it gets overflowing,

[1:38:37] it now runs down and it is cutting a

[1:38:40] gully in my front yard across all of

[1:38:43] that beautiful new black top you put on

[1:38:46] my driveway.

[1:38:48] So, yes, everyone,

[1:38:51] this is what you're going to be looking

[1:38:54] forward to if they pass this and go

[1:38:58] forward with this.

[1:39:01] I hope you don't

[1:39:03] because you've actually ruined Dayton

[1:39:05] Zena through there because of all the

[1:39:08] trees that you've cut down for this

[1:39:11] because of all the construction and the

[1:39:14] destruction of that construction.

[1:39:18] Don't do this. Don't do this to the

[1:39:20] Shaker Town neighborhoods.

[1:39:22] Don't do this to Shaker Town.

[1:39:24] >> Thank you.

[1:39:37] Anyone

[1:39:47] else?

[1:39:55] All right, seeing none, I will close the

[1:39:57] uh citiz comments. Uh council time.

[1:40:01] Councilman LL.

[1:40:03] >> Thank you, mayor.

[1:40:05] Again, thanks for everybody for coming

[1:40:07] out.

[1:40:09] There was uh

[1:40:12] a lot of comments, some new things we

[1:40:15] haven't heard before, but a lot of

[1:40:17] things we've that's been repeated. And I

[1:40:20] understand the desire to have a back and

[1:40:23] forth with us up here.

[1:40:28] This project here was a long-term

[1:40:31] planning goal with the city before I was

[1:40:34] even elected. these

[1:40:37] major throughfair areas.

[1:40:40] Um, we can pretend today that we feel

[1:40:45] the traffic isn't high in that area and

[1:40:49] like it'll never increase in the next

[1:40:53] year or two.

[1:40:55] The city does

[1:40:58] make

[1:41:02] choices and attempts to see into the

[1:41:06] future. We've tried to

[1:41:10] stop projects like the gas station that

[1:41:13] went in because we knew that the

[1:41:15] overpass down there, everybody wants it.

[1:41:20] If a project like that does happen, you

[1:41:23] will see increases in traffic on Shaker

[1:41:26] Town. Absolutely.

[1:41:28] All the projects that are currently

[1:41:30] happening in the township, Beaver Creek

[1:41:33] Township, when those are all completed

[1:41:35] and filled, you will see traffic

[1:41:38] increasing on Shakertown Road.

[1:41:42] The Shakertown Road project isn't

[1:41:47] this section of roadway that we're

[1:41:48] discussing isn't the only section of

[1:41:51] Shakertown Road that has been expanded

[1:41:53] over the years. This is a continuation

[1:41:56] of a project that's been moving forward.

[1:42:04] This roadway

[1:42:06] is in front of your homes and I get that

[1:42:10] and I understand how it directly impacts

[1:42:13] you because you're the residents that

[1:42:15] live there. However, you are not the

[1:42:18] only people that use that road.

[1:42:21] There are people all over the city and

[1:42:24] outside the city that use that road and

[1:42:26] that will continue using that roadway.

[1:42:29] The roadway is being developed by the

[1:42:32] city as a whole. Everybody's paying for

[1:42:35] it, not just the individuals that live

[1:42:38] in that in that area. The property take

[1:42:42] that people have made comments about is

[1:42:45] this project is an anomaly in the fact

[1:42:49] that it does not take

[1:42:53] a lot of people's private property. Most

[1:42:56] of this project is happening in the

[1:42:57] right of way.

[1:43:02] The

[1:43:14] comments that were made regarding

[1:43:17] not being a little 204, I don't know

[1:43:19] where those things came from. I will

[1:43:21] tell you that me personally, I went to

[1:43:24] MBRPC had discussions with with the uh

[1:43:28] grant writers, the approval pro the

[1:43:30] approval and the head of MBRPC in

[1:43:33] regards to this project.

[1:43:35] um calls were made to ODOT to see about

[1:43:39] reducing this sidewalk because that was

[1:43:41] what we were hearing and wanted to do

[1:43:43] something to

[1:43:46] say we understand that a 10-ft sidewalk

[1:43:49] didn't make sense to you. Um they agreed

[1:43:53] didn't have anything to do with payments

[1:43:56] not being able to be afforded. So I

[1:43:58] don't know where that comes from.

[1:44:00] Um, we all hear things and and sometimes

[1:44:04] we hear things that we want to hear. I

[1:44:10] like

[1:44:13] this project

[1:44:15] in the sense that I was on Shakertown

[1:44:18] Road today. I was west of Fairfield

[1:44:23] Road, though. I wasn't all the way down

[1:44:25] where you were today. Um, and cars were

[1:44:28] directly in front of me. Two of them

[1:44:30] moved over to the center lane to turn

[1:44:32] left into driveways, which allowed me to

[1:44:36] continue on in the roadway while they

[1:44:39] stayed in the middle lane and cars

[1:44:40] coming west while they waited. It does

[1:44:45] allow for safer traffic.

[1:44:49] Um, this is an improvement to storm

[1:44:52] water.

[1:44:54] I I hope the the lady from Dayton Zena

[1:44:58] has contacted the engineering

[1:44:59] department. I know you that's the first

[1:45:01] anybody up here has heard anything like

[1:45:03] that. I can promise you and I hope

[1:45:06] you've made contact with the engineering

[1:45:07] department to get something out there to

[1:45:09] get a a resolution to that immediately

[1:45:12] before it goes any further. I do know

[1:45:14] that we've had record rainfall in the in

[1:45:17] the month of August, which is crazy. Um,

[1:45:22] but I hope I hope that you do that the idea

[1:45:28] that this this develop this developing

[1:45:31] this roadway decreases decreases

[1:45:34] property value is unprecedented.

[1:45:38] If if you if if you ladies and gentlemen

[1:45:41] if you increase we

[1:45:44] >> if there was no property taken from an

[1:45:47] individual

[1:45:50] It can't decrease the property value for

[1:45:52] that individual.

[1:45:55] The

[1:46:02] I'm out came out of the line. I do want

[1:46:04] to to to um address Miss Harvey

[1:46:07] specifically.

[1:46:11] » Sir, you've had your time with council

[1:46:14] time. Miss Harvey, you stated when you were making your statements, I I

[1:46:18] thought you were looking at me. I'm I'm

[1:46:20] not sure if you've heard somebody state

[1:46:23] that I said something about you to

[1:46:25] somebody.

[1:46:29] » Okay. I just wanted to make sure you

[1:46:31] knew you knew that I had never

[1:46:33] >> So, I wanted to I wanted to I'm just

[1:46:36] trying to address the things that I

[1:46:38] heard because people say and this is how

[1:46:40] much people wanted to hear the back and

[1:46:43] forth by everybody walking out of the

[1:46:45] room.

[1:46:46] I'm just making statements, ma'am.

[1:46:50] the

[1:46:52] I've heard tonight that there's been no

[1:46:55] accidents and then I heard another

[1:46:56] individual say they've had cars in their

[1:46:58] front yard.

[1:47:00] >> Okay.

[1:47:10] I've heard I've heard

[1:47:13] >> that. That's fine. I I'm okay. I'm not

[1:47:15] mad about I'm not mad at anybody. I'm

[1:47:17] just I'm just making statements no

[1:47:19] different than what you were doing when

[1:47:20] you were standing here. Okay. The comment about

[1:47:28] wanting to go do away with all levies

[1:47:30] and make them in because you don't like

[1:47:32] roads being fixed. That right there

[1:47:35] makes no sense to me. I don't know why

[1:47:37] anybody would make comments like that.

[1:47:40] I I I don't I don't know why anybody

[1:47:41] would say something like that.

[1:47:45] Um and I do want to end by saying that

[1:47:48] and I wish I'd have said this last week

[1:47:49] and I should have said more. Um the

[1:47:53] letter that was sent to everybody was

[1:47:56] signed by the mayor and I did see this

[1:47:58] letter before it went out. I do endorse

[1:48:01] what Mayor Adams had to say in that

[1:48:03] letter. This project is moving forward

[1:48:07] in from my opinion because it is a

[1:48:10] project that we approved last year as

[1:48:13] part of the long-term plan for the city

[1:48:16] of Beaver Creek. Not only for traffic

[1:48:19] that day, but future traffic problems

[1:48:21] that are going to come in the future.

[1:48:23] And I know I've upset some people. It's

[1:48:26] not the first time I've upset people.

[1:48:27] I'm I'm retired law enforcement. I've

[1:48:29] made people mad every day. So, and and I apologize if I hurt feelings. I know

[1:48:36] people stormed out of the room, but

[1:48:39] that's that's just where I stand. And I thank you for my time. I yield my

[1:48:42] time. That's all I have to say.

[1:48:46] >> Thank you, Councilman Der.

[1:48:49] >> Appreciate it, Mayor. And I want to

[1:48:51] thank everyone uh in attendance today. I

[1:48:53] know it's exhausting to come out

[1:48:55] multiple times. Uh we do listen.

[1:48:59] It takes a while to think it through.

[1:49:04] And I want to make a statement to all of

[1:49:07] you today. Um, I don't anticipate that

[1:49:10] I'll change any minds and I don't

[1:49:12] anticipate that I'll assuage anyone. I

[1:49:16] know that there's significant cynicism

[1:49:18] of government and I understand that. Um,

[1:49:20] but I'm a neighbor. I'm a human being.

[1:49:23] Um, and I mean you no harm. I really

[1:49:26] don't. I'm trying to do what's best for

[1:49:27] the city as a whole. Um I'm one of seven

[1:49:31] members of council

[1:49:34] and I haven't discussed my statements

[1:49:36] with anyone. Um

[1:49:39] if we start on a macro level when the

[1:49:43] city started in 1980

[1:49:46] world population was 4.4 billion. Today

[1:49:49] it's 8.1.

[1:49:51] Nationally it was 230 sorry 226 million

[1:49:56] today it is 342

[1:49:58] in the city it was 31,000 it is now

[1:50:02] 47,000

[1:50:04] throughout the entire world we have seen

[1:50:07] growth

[1:50:08] uh the expansion of areas the need for

[1:50:12] upgrades things of that nature and so

[1:50:15] today I really just want to explain some

[1:50:17] of the tradeoffs in my thinking whether

[1:50:20] you agree or disagree here's Here's some

[1:50:22] of the backdrop.

[1:50:23] If we start with a really basic point on

[1:50:28] simply the need to repave, I know

[1:50:31] there's real concern over the amount of

[1:50:34] repaving that we've seen in Beaver

[1:50:36] Creek. Uh, and I've driven the

[1:50:38] congestion myself,

[1:50:41] but what I would like to note to you is

[1:50:43] that imagine the alternative. Imagine

[1:50:47] that your roads didn't get paved.

[1:50:51] Think about cities

[1:50:54] that don't take care or don't plan

[1:50:56] ahead.

[1:50:58] It is something where a city will

[1:51:02] degrade

[1:51:03] and fall in the minds of people quite

[1:51:07] quickly. And so our goal here is to

[1:51:10] upkeep the city.

[1:51:14] Should

[1:51:17] it be paved under the current

[1:51:19] configuration?

[1:51:20] Our tradeoff is that we have a

[1:51:23] thoroughare plan going back to 2019.

[1:51:27] There are similar examples on North

[1:51:30] Fairfield, on Kemp, on Graange Hall, on

[1:51:33] Indian Ripple. And I know that they

[1:51:35] cause upheaval to the residents that

[1:51:37] live there. I've gone through similar

[1:51:39] things in my own life. It's it's not fun

[1:51:42] for a season. Uh but at the same time,

[1:51:45] if we were to look at Shaker Town to its

[1:51:48] east and to its west, we have seen those

[1:51:51] infrastructure improvements. Imagine

[1:51:53] driving through seeing the improvements

[1:51:55] in one area, not in the 6 milesi and

[1:52:00] then seeing it again.

[1:52:04] We and a number of people have correctly

[1:52:06] pointed this out that the thorough play

[1:52:09] thoroughare plan should have been

[1:52:11] updated in 5 years that's 2024.

[1:52:14] Uh we initiated a land use plan and to

[1:52:17] update zoning and so this is something

[1:52:20] that is on our radar and as I noted in a

[1:52:24] previous council meeting our funding is

[1:52:27] peacemeal. We have to do it piece by

[1:52:29] piece. The equivalent is imagine having

[1:52:33] to pay your mortgage all in one payment.

[1:52:36] It's why it has to be this quote unquote

[1:52:38] Frankenstein road and why we have to

[1:52:41] plan it and do it appropriately.

[1:52:46] A great question was raised at a

[1:52:48] previous meeting that is do

[1:52:50] infrastructure changes lead to property

[1:52:52] value decreases?

[1:52:55] Um, I think it's a great question to ask

[1:52:57] and I've spent significant time trying

[1:53:00] to research it. It's one of the reasons

[1:53:01] we don't have a back and forth because

[1:53:03] we all need just time to go research and

[1:53:05] to understand.

[1:53:07] I'm an academic. The best I found in

[1:53:10] general is the answer is no.

[1:53:13] Real estate is almost always a good

[1:53:15] investment, but there are circumstances.

[1:53:20] the great recession of 2008, um subprime

[1:53:24] mortgage issues,

[1:53:26] um

[1:53:28] inflationary issues, uh localized

[1:53:31] concerns. And so what I ask you is this.

[1:53:35] If if there's something that we don't

[1:53:37] know as a council,

[1:53:40] please send me a peer-reviewed paper

[1:53:42] that has studied this. I will read it

[1:53:44] back and forth. uh please

[1:53:48] I I've been through many of these and I

[1:53:50] found

[1:53:55] can we do an econ economist a realtor is

[1:53:59] specialized in a certain way but an

[1:54:02] economist studies wider trends

[1:54:05] so

[1:54:08] » no no it it can be global it you just

[1:54:11] find something so I found two I found

[1:54:14] two I looked at multiple articles.

[1:54:17] There's one from the the Netherlands in

[1:54:19] 2016.

[1:54:24] But if you're looking at the way that

[1:54:25] infrastructure has changed, it's low its

[1:54:28] impact on local a local economy, that's

[1:54:31] what's giving us examples. It happens

[1:54:33] when there's infrastructure around major

[1:54:38] um you know there's a train station as

[1:54:40] one example where the infrastructure was

[1:54:42] upgraded the property values decreased.

[1:54:45] It's things like that that I I'm

[1:54:47] interested in studying and learning

[1:54:49] more.

[1:54:55] What about the traffic counts?

[1:54:58] There's a clear difference of position.

[1:55:02] Uh and let's for a moment take the the

[1:55:06] numbers that were given here. Uh I drive

[1:55:09] Shaker Town very regularly. My wife

[1:55:12] works on Shaker Town.

[1:55:15] You know, I I observed some of the same

[1:55:17] things that you observe. Here's what's

[1:55:19] on the other side of the ledger. And

[1:55:21] some here have rightly said, you know,

[1:55:23] what's happening here and now,

[1:55:26] but we do have to think through

[1:55:29] projections that we've been given.

[1:55:32] And I don't know the answer to these

[1:55:34] things because they're projections.

[1:55:38] One is that there is a proposed

[1:55:40] development of 1600 houses

[1:55:43] in the township. Can I guarantee you

[1:55:46] that there'll be 1,600 houses? I have no

[1:55:48] idea.

[1:55:51] What about a new high school? I have no

[1:55:54] idea.

[1:55:57] But we do need to at least think through

[1:55:59] the tradeoff of an additional several

[1:56:02] thousand cars potentially per day.

[1:56:06] Again, I don't know, but it's what goes

[1:56:07] through my mind in terms of thinking and

[1:56:10] in terms of making a decision.

[1:56:14] The argument was made on sunk costs.

[1:56:19] I thought that was a very good argument.

[1:56:22] It really appealed to me.

[1:56:24] Um, I thought it was very very

[1:56:27] thoughtful.

[1:56:30] The other side of the sunk costs

[1:56:32] argument is that the road still isn't

[1:56:34] paved.

[1:56:36] But on the other side of sunk cost is

[1:56:39] also opportunity cost.

[1:56:42] I don't know what happens

[1:56:46] if we turn this money back.

[1:56:52] How do MVRPCO O do look at us when we

[1:56:57] apply again?

[1:57:01] We don't know is the answer. That's the

[1:57:03] challenge to it because again we're at

[1:57:06] large members. We represent all of

[1:57:08] Beaver Creek. If we say no to this,

[1:57:13] what happens down the line? And we don't

[1:57:15] know. That's I'm explaining the

[1:57:17] tradeoffs that we have to think through.

[1:57:23] I'll leave it there, ma'am. Thank you.

[1:57:25] >> Thank you,

[1:57:27] Counciloman Bills.

[1:57:32] » So, I think out of all of us, I'm the

[1:57:35] only one that actually lives back in

[1:57:36] that neighborhood.

[1:57:40] I've sent my kids

[1:57:43] to go to our church, which is one of the

[1:57:44] churches on Shaker Town, and they have

[1:57:46] to cross from Koi over to the church

[1:57:49] across the street. There's a whole host

[1:57:52] of families back there that go to that

[1:57:54] church. And I can tell you in the almost

[1:57:58] 20 years of living back there that I've

[1:58:00] seen multiple young children almost get

[1:58:03] hit by people in Chakertown.

[1:58:06] And I and that was your first response

[1:58:09] to me when I said that the first time we

[1:58:12] talked about this. I was immediately

[1:58:14] shut down.

[1:58:16] But it's the truth. You want us to

[1:58:19] accept your truth and your feelings

[1:58:22] about things.

[1:58:24] But when there's other truths and other

[1:58:27] experiences, those somehow are not as

[1:58:30] valid.

[1:58:32] I understand Heather how I understand

[1:58:34] your frustration. And I am not trying to

[1:58:36] change your mind. I don't I'm not trying

[1:58:39] to make you like

[1:58:42] the church is fine with the sidewalk.

[1:58:45] Um but I don't have control over that.

[1:58:48] I'm not in that position. But my point

[1:58:52] is Heather is and and for for everybody

[1:58:55] for anybody who lives in a project, Pete

[1:58:57] lives in a project that he doesn't

[1:59:00] particularly enjoy all the time. I mean,

[1:59:02] it it happens to all of us at a point. I

[1:59:05] thought it sucked when the culvert had

[1:59:08] to be replaced. That was a nightmare.

[1:59:10] You know, we all lived with that for

[1:59:11] ages. It seemed like it was unending,

[1:59:14] but it was necessary.

[1:59:16] There are no pedestrians on Shaker Town.

[1:59:19] You are absolutely right because it's

[1:59:21] dangerous.

[1:59:23] I wouldn't walk on Shaker Town as an

[1:59:25] adult and I would never send kids out on

[1:59:28] Shaker Town. I mean, I have pulled my

[1:59:31] car over and like put it in the road so

[1:59:34] kids waiting there can cross. It's

[1:59:36] scary. So, we ab I mean, I have to say I

[1:59:40] am in support of it will make this

[1:59:43] street safer.

[1:59:45] It scares me to even try to go around

[1:59:47] bicyclists. There are just ditches.

[1:59:49] There's not even a shoulder to the road.

[1:59:58] Yeah, there'll be there's two and

[1:59:59] there's one further down on the other.

[2:00:02] Yeah, which is better. But and I I do

[2:00:07] understand. I mean, when the tree oak

[2:00:10] tree issue came up, I was concerned. We

[2:00:13] reached out. We have all had so many

[2:00:15] discussions about your concerns and

[2:00:19] trying to find ways to make things

[2:00:22] better. We have tried to compromise and

[2:00:24] we have achieved some compromises.

[2:00:27] There have been efforts

[2:00:31] and I do look at some of the houses on

[2:00:33] Shaker Town and recognize that you guys

[2:00:35] are I would not be happy either. Your

[2:00:37] houses are closer than I'm sure you wish

[2:00:40] they were. Um

[2:00:43] I get it. But once again,

[2:00:47] we're and I don't want to say that, you

[2:00:49] know, 20 people or even 30 people or

[2:00:51] even 40 people, but compared to almost

[2:00:54] 48,000 people to a city, we have to look

[2:00:58] at the larger picture. We have to think

[2:01:02] about the future.

[2:01:04] And this potential development

[2:01:07] is an issue. There are going to be

[2:01:10] things changing. We are going to see

[2:01:12] more traffic.

[2:01:19] You're you're right. They don't. And

[2:01:21] unfortunately, we have to make

[2:01:26] » we Well, I didn't yell over you when you

[2:01:29] spoke. And I also don't need you to make

[2:01:32] comments about my appearance when you

[2:01:34] come up front either.

[2:01:36] Okay.

[2:01:40] When he came up and said, "Oh, you're

[2:01:41] looking fine today, honey.

[2:01:45] Yeah. Okay.

[2:01:49] Well, now that we've gotten past that,

[2:01:51] anyway,

[2:01:53] truly, no one is trying to hurt any of

[2:01:56] you. I do understand your frustration. I

[2:01:58] don't expect you to love this project. I

[2:02:01] don't expect you to love the experience

[2:02:04] of these repairs. I don't think any of

[2:02:06] us have enjoyed living through the

[2:02:08] things that have happened, you know, in

[2:02:10] our neighborhoods either. I just had a

[2:02:12] tree come through my creek and my yard

[2:02:14] got flooded and my basement's flooded

[2:02:16] and you know, I mean, but it's a moment.

[2:02:20] Things will get fixed. I can wait, you

[2:02:24] know, for the the crews to come to take

[2:02:26] care of my tree. Um, by the way, thank

[2:02:29] you. They came and took care of the

[2:02:30] tree. Um,

[2:02:34] I'm happy to sit down with any of you,

[2:02:37] but I do approve of this project. I also

[2:02:40] read the mayor's letter,

[2:02:42] and while you may not have liked what he

[2:02:46] had to say or perhaps the way it was

[2:02:48] worded,

[2:02:50] our mayor's intentions are endlessly

[2:02:54] kind and endlessly responsible and

[2:02:58] thoughtful.

[2:03:01] He thinks about everybody all the time.

[2:03:03] And I can say that about everybody up

[2:03:05] here.

[2:03:07] These are wonderful people. Our

[2:03:11] employees are wonderful people. No one

[2:03:14] is trying to pull the wool over your

[2:03:15] eyes. No one is lying to you. I'm not

[2:03:20] saying that there may not have been a

[2:03:21] mistake like a a road count that only

[2:03:24] counted one way and didn't count the

[2:03:26] other way or, you know,

[2:03:31] a stake that's a a foot away from where

[2:03:33] it should be or something like that.

[2:03:35] We're all human.

[2:03:37] Everyone is human. You guys are also

[2:03:40] human.

[2:03:41] And all representations from perhaps

[2:03:45] there have been errors on both sides. I

[2:03:49] mean, or maybe we're talking past each

[2:03:51] other, but no one's trying to hurt you.

[2:03:54] Everyone is doing their best. And I

[2:03:57] understand that you don't like the

[2:03:58] project. I'm not going to try to

[2:04:00] convince you to love the project. And

[2:04:01] I'm not going to convince you to stay

[2:04:03] home. You can come and complain about it

[2:04:05] every single meeting until the thing is

[2:04:07] over. And then you can keep coming after

[2:04:09] that. I'm never going to tell you that

[2:04:11] your voice isn't important and that you

[2:04:12] shouldn't come and be heard.

[2:04:15] So, thank you for coming out. I'm sorry

[2:04:18] that you're unhappy.

[2:04:20] And

[2:04:22] I'm happy to talk to any of you. Thanks.

[2:04:26] Oh, and on a happier note, I would like

[2:04:29] to welcome

[2:04:31] um Officer Hunsburgger to the city. Um

[2:04:35] it was great to go to his swearing in

[2:04:38] and I'm looking forward to his time with

[2:04:40] our city. Thank you.

[2:04:44] » Thank you very much, Councilman Bales.

[2:04:50] » Thank you.

[2:04:52] Uh, I too appreciate everyone coming out

[2:04:54] sharing your thoughts. I also appreciate

[2:04:57] listening to council's thoughts on on

[2:04:59] the issue. Um, and I don't think I'm

[2:05:03] going to expound any more than what

[2:05:05] we've already heard and and talked about

[2:05:07] on it. Um, because we've all shared a

[2:05:10] lot tonight and I took a lot of notes

[2:05:13] and and again, I appreciate that. But on

[2:05:16] a uh a happier note as well, like to

[2:05:19] congratulate the uh Beaver Creek Beaver

[2:05:22] football team for their big win over

[2:05:24] >> Zenia.

[2:05:26] Uh and I want

[2:05:29] >> I want to wish everybody a happy Labor

[2:05:31] Day and um look forward to seeing

[2:05:34] everyone at the popcorn festival. I

[2:05:37] yield.

[2:05:39] >> Councelor Kern.

[2:05:41] >> Thank you, your honor. Again, I'd like

[2:05:43] to uh thank the individuals who have

[2:05:46] come up week after week each meeting

[2:05:49] that we've had given your opinion.

[2:05:52] But on the other side, I support the

[2:05:55] wisdom that's been presented by council

[2:05:57] tonight. uh it takes a lot of guts many

[2:06:00] times for people to think long range and

[2:06:04] I think the uh evidence that's presented

[2:06:07] by uh the members of council tonight uh

[2:06:13] was very very very well presented and uh

[2:06:17] I certainly support moving ahead with

[2:06:20] the project realizing that people are

[2:06:23] not going to be totally happy uh as we

[2:06:27] move forward. forward.

[2:06:28] >> Thank you, your honor.

[2:06:30] >> Thank you, Vice Mayor Upton.

[2:06:33] >> Uh, thank you, Mayor Adams. Um, there's

[2:06:36] certainly been a lot of uh emotion and

[2:06:39] passion uh spoken about here tonight and

[2:06:41] I won't get into rehashing similar to

[2:06:44] Council Member Bales. Um, you know, a

[2:06:46] lot has been said and I think all of us

[2:06:48] took a lot of notes. You know, I heard

[2:06:50] tonight obviously a lot of discussion on

[2:06:52] Shakertown Road. Uh we talked a little

[2:06:55] bit about the religious facility that

[2:06:56] was presented tonight and ultimately

[2:06:58] tabled. Uh we heard from about ebikes

[2:07:00] and uh something I learned again tonight

[2:07:02] was about the uh drainage issue there in

[2:07:04] Dayton Zena. So I mean when you all come

[2:07:06] forward and speak about these things

[2:07:08] that does help us form our opinion. Um

[2:07:11] it helps us do our research. Um so you

[2:07:14] know with all sincerity thank you for

[2:07:16] coming out tonight. Um, and you know, I do look forward to hearing more

[2:07:22] because it does bring different points

[2:07:23] up. Um, you know, it was said new things

[2:07:26] were brought up tonight and some things

[2:07:28] were repeated. So, we will go to the

[2:07:30] drawing board and look at some of those

[2:07:31] new things. We will, uh, potentially

[2:07:34] talk about some of those things that

[2:07:35] have been repeated. Uh, but again, you

[2:07:38] know, having the citizen input is part

[2:07:40] of the process, right? None of us would

[2:07:42] be here if we didn't care. None of you

[2:07:45] out there would be here if you didn't

[2:07:47] care. None of us up here would be would

[2:07:49] be here if we didn't care. And that's

[2:07:50] just it. We all care for Beaver Creek in

[2:07:52] our community. Much more than just a a

[2:07:55] symbol of a beaver that we all

[2:07:56] celebrated at our last meeting. Uh so

[2:07:59] with that, I do look forward to more

[2:08:00] dialogue um with everybody um on on any

[2:08:04] of the topics. Um I was going to talk a

[2:08:07] little about the popcorn festival, but I

[2:08:08] see it's in the city manager report, so

[2:08:10] I will uh defer to him on that one. Um,

[2:08:13] I do want to express a quick thank you

[2:08:15] to the school district. Uh, with school

[2:08:17] coming back in session, uh, school buses

[2:08:20] have been running on time. Uh, my kids

[2:08:22] were not excited to go back to school.

[2:08:24] Uh, but, uh, it seems to be, uh,

[2:08:27] everything flowing smoothly with the

[2:08:30] schools and traffic, uh, throughout the

[2:08:31] city. So, I'm appreciative of that. Uh,

[2:08:34] and I appreciate the police department,

[2:08:36] um, everything they're doing to help

[2:08:37] keep everybody safe out there. That's

[2:08:39] all.

[2:08:40] >> Thank you very much. I too would like to

[2:08:42] thank everybody for coming. Um

[2:08:45] first of all and the young man left but

[2:08:48] uh the ebikes and the e-otos there's

[2:08:50] some work being done on ordinances

[2:08:52] throughout where several cities around

[2:08:53] the area are working on that because

[2:08:55] they are becoming very dangerous. Uh

[2:08:58] I've run into that same situation myself

[2:09:01] and uh you know we will do something

[2:09:03] about that and don't know what that'll

[2:09:04] be at this point. But uh something else

[2:09:06] that was brought up by Councilman Litel,

[2:09:09] I spoke with the U Township and there

[2:09:14] are projected 1,600 homes being built

[2:09:16] there at the uh Trabine overpass and

[2:09:20] they will be connected probably through

[2:09:22] Valley Springs Road to Yellow Brick

[2:09:24] Road. And where does that go?

[2:09:27] Right on Shaker Town. So I assume we

[2:09:30] these when we look at things,

[2:09:34] you know, I've been here 60 years. I I

[2:09:36] look back a lot of good things happened

[2:09:38] in the past, really good things. But a

[2:09:41] lot of things have changed in those 60

[2:09:43] years.

[2:09:44] In the next 60 years, we're going to see

[2:09:47] a lot more. Uh we're going to be build

[2:09:50] out in Beaver Creek one day down the

[2:09:51] road, but the township is still growing.

[2:09:53] There's a lot of things happening out

[2:09:55] here. So those are the things that we

[2:09:57] have to look at. We can't say, "Well,

[2:09:59] everything's fine right now." Because if

[2:10:01] we were to stop this project, turn all

[2:10:04] the money back, five years from now when

[2:10:06] all this stuff builds out, we have to do

[2:10:08] it again. It'll cost five times as much.

[2:10:11] Nothing stays the same. It's it's just

[2:10:13] the way it is. Uh and those are some of

[2:10:16] the things that we have to look at. Uh

[2:10:19] so with that, I do want to say thank you

[2:10:22] to uh Councilman Bales for bringing up

[2:10:26] the high school football team. Uh I was

[2:10:29] there Friday night and I was there

[2:10:31] Saturday and gladly accepted the trophy

[2:10:33] back from the mayor of Zenia so I could

[2:10:34] present it to the coach. That's the

[2:10:37] first time in five years that we've been

[2:10:38] able to do that. So that was a that was

[2:10:41] a really fun time. Uh, and I know that

[2:10:43] uh uh Mayor Reynolds was not happy about

[2:10:46] it. In fact, he and I had a little bit

[2:10:49] of a uh a bet going on that I will

[2:10:53] gladly

[2:10:55] accept when he gives me. So,

[2:10:58] with that, I'll turn over to city

[2:11:00] manager.

[2:11:02] >> Hey, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Quickly, the

[2:11:04] manager's report uh summer entertainment

[2:11:07] series will continue free event at a

[2:11:10] party on the patio with DJ

[2:11:14] August 29th. So that's next Saturday

[2:11:16] 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at the golf club. Next

[2:11:19] one after that, uh party on the golf

[2:11:21] range with Jukebox Apocalypse is

[2:11:24] Wednesday, September 23rd, 5 to 8:00

[2:11:27] p.m. Come and join these free concerts

[2:11:28] and have a good time.

[2:11:30] uh town halls. We have two of them

[2:11:32] coming up. Uh first will be September

[2:11:34] 15th at the Beaver Creek Senior Center.

[2:11:37] These are on finance. This is our third

[2:11:38] year uh doing these. So they've been

[2:11:41] informative. September 15th 6 to8 at the

[2:11:44] senior center and the second town hall

[2:11:46] will be a month later October 15th 6 to

[2:11:49] 8 at the uh golf club.

[2:11:53] Uh our mentioned earlier our offices

[2:11:55] will be closed on Labor Day of course

[2:11:58] and for emergencies uh not emergencies

[2:12:01] contact 911 but for non-emergencies

[2:12:04] something in the road or something of

[2:12:05] that nature uh contact the non-emergency

[2:12:08] number of Beaver Creek Police Dispatch

[2:12:10] 937-4261

[2:12:12] 1225.

[2:12:14] And yes, Beaver Creek Popcorn Festival

[2:12:16] is coming. The city has a tent right

[2:12:18] beside the police tent as well. Uh,

[2:12:21] Saturday, September 12th, 10:00 a.m. to

[2:12:23] 8:00 p.m. and Sunday, September 13th,

[2:12:25] 11:00 a.m. to 6 pm. Uh, usually staff

[2:12:28] and and various council members uh staff

[2:12:32] it. This is something that though the

[2:12:34] entire popcorn festival, if you haven't

[2:12:35] ever been there, you're missing a real

[2:12:37] treat. Uh, there's a 5K run, art, arts

[2:12:40] and crafts, whole bunch of things. So,

[2:12:42] please have a look at that. Uh, Dayton

[2:12:44] Xia Road, I do want to mention, will

[2:12:46] close at 4:00 a.m. September 12th and

[2:12:48] will reopen at midnight on Monday,

[2:12:52] September 14th. So, make be prepared for

[2:12:56] that. Uh, festival is not organized by

[2:12:59] the city. However, the city and police

[2:13:01] will have booths. So, please stop by.

[2:13:04] Shout Park uh fundraiser. Uh, again,

[2:13:07] just want to state this is a continuing

[2:13:09] ongoing so far. for 203 uh donors and

[2:13:12] $19,67

[2:13:14] in funds that have raised up to August

[2:13:17] 24th. So, please uh stop by. Uh you can

[2:13:20] ask about it at the popcorn festival if

[2:13:22] you'd like or online beaver creek.gov

[2:13:25] shout park slide. And that's all I have

[2:13:28] tonight.

[2:13:29] >> Thank you very much, Councilman Curran.

[2:13:32] Move to adjourn, your honor.

[2:13:35] >> Second.

[2:13:36] >> I have a motion and a second to adjurnn.

[2:13:37] And all those in favor signify by saying

[2:13:39] I.

[2:13:39] >> I.

[2:13:40] >> We are adjourned.

8/24/2026 Beavercreek City Council Meeting

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