[0:08] >>> all right, good evening everyone.

[0:13] I would

[0:16] like to call the buda city council

[0:17] to

[0:19] order at 6:31. We have

[0:22] an invocation from cole phillips

[0:24] from the connection church. If you

[0:25] would

[0:27] please rise for the invocation and

[0:30] remain standing for the pledges.

[0:31] >>

[0:32] I

[0:34] just want to mention jeremiah

[0:37] 29/7 tells us to seek the

[0:39] peace and prosperity of the city. Pray

[0:40] to

[0:43] the lord for it. If it prospers, you, too, will

[0:45] prosper, so we want to pray for our

[0:46] peace and

[0:47] prosperity tonight. Let's do that. Dear

[0:49] heavenly father, thank you that we

[0:50] can

[0:52] come

[0:54] before you today recognizing you,

[0:55] who you are,

[0:58] that you bless the meeting and guide

[0:59] our leaders with

[1:00] wisdom as they make decisions that

[1:01] will impact

[1:04] so

[1:07] many lives in our community. We ask

[1:08] that you

[1:09] give them understanding to seek the

[1:10] good with

[1:11] integrity and fairness. Help them

[1:13] to work together in unity for the

[1:16] betterment of our city. I pray for

[1:18] their families as well. As they are

[1:20] given their time tonight

[1:22] to serve in this way. And each day

[1:23] that they give,

[1:26] help their decision to be

[1:28] marked with understanding, with empathy,

[1:29] with

[1:30] a true desire to serve our community and

[1:32] we lift up our city to you

[1:35] and all of our residents. We ask

[1:38] for your

[1:43] protection over our city. That you

[1:44] provide

[1:47] with prosperity. Bless

[1:50] us with peace and

[1:53] we ask

[1:55] that buda is well known for its compassion

[1:56] and love. We ask

[1:59] all

[2:02] this in jesus' name. Amen.

[2:53] >> all

[2:54] right, please be seated. Ms. Ramirez,

[2:59] can

[3:02] we have a roll

[3:05] call? The mayor

[3:08] is

[3:10] here, ture, smith, davidson, horne-williams.

[3:11] >>

[3:12] we are

[3:13] all present and a quorum. This brings

[3:17] us

[3:20] to items

[3:22] of community interest. School is back

[3:23] in

[3:24] session and still hot. But things

[3:26] are happening.

[3:27] >> city hall

[3:29] will be closed on

[3:32] labor day,

[3:35] monday, september 1st. There are the

[3:36] upcoming

[3:38] public meetings, remainder

[3:41] of august and

[3:43] going into september. Of note, our

[3:44] next

[3:46] city council meeting will be september

[3:47] 2nd and september

[3:49] 16th and september 17th we will host

[3:50] a joint

[3:53] meeting between the parks and recreation

[3:54] commission

[3:55] and buda bond oversight committee. Bboc.

[3:58] here are some remaining programs for

[4:02] the month of

[4:05] august hosted by our

[4:08] awesome buda public library. As you

[4:11] heard earlier, the buda edc is hosting

[4:12] in partnership

[4:14] with a number

[4:16] of agencies in the area. The future

[4:17] career

[4:20] expo is this thursday, august

[4:23] 31st here

[4:26] at

[4:29] city

[4:35] hall. We are looking for

[4:41] opinions. Help us to identify how

[4:44] we will move

[4:47] forward with our historic guidelines. And then, on

[4:53] friday,

[4:56] august 22nd, we are a, a sun

[4:59] radio southbound series

[5:01] will take place at meridian. On september

[5:02] 13th,

[5:04] this saturday, we are going to be

[5:05] participating in the preparedness

[5:06] fair. I

[5:08] believe this is

[5:11] going to be hosted in kyle. Wendy

[5:12] smith will

[5:14] be at that hosting

[5:17] that. And

[5:20] is

[5:23] currently

[5:24] planning for our presence. September

[5:29] 10th we will be, the buda chamber

[5:30] of commerce

[5:31] will be eaching our honorable mayor

[5:32] who will be

[5:35] given

[5:38] the

[5:41] state of the community. This will

[5:44] be at the ctx center. You are

[5:47] large and in charge there

[5:50] sir. We have a couple

[5:53] of remaining

[5:56] summer concert series. September

[5:59] 20th

[6:02] at

[6:05] the buda amphitheater. The buda

[6:08] arts festival october. Coming up a

[6:11] couple of months. And

[6:14] get ready for buda

[6:17] halloween,

[6:20] the vendor

[6:23] applications are open. We

[6:27] have

[6:30] rail

[6:36] car revival coming back.

[6:39] >> any

[6:45] questions for con sill? Thank

[6:48] you.

[6:51] >>>

[6:54] this

[6:55] is emergency preparedness month. Wendy smith.

[7:24] as the mayor mentioned

[7:27] this

[7:30] is recognizing august as capcog.

[7:33] where

[7:36] it is a political subdivision

[7:39] of the state

[7:42] of texas serving caldwell,

[7:43] fayette. Hays, lee, travis, williamson

[7:45] counties. The state of

[7:48] texas historically leads

[7:51] the nation

[7:54] in

[7:57] federally

[8:02] declared disasters. Where local agency. School. Dedicate

[8:04] countless hours to preparedness. Response,

[8:06] mitigation, to protect the

[8:08] lives, businesses, property, and the

[8:09] environment in

[8:11] their communities. And whereas the

[8:12] efforts of

[8:15] the region's emergency managers

[8:17] have assisted communities to repair,

[8:18] recover, rebuild, and become more

[8:20] resilient in the face of continuing

[8:21] threats,

[8:24] emergencies and

[8:25] disasters. The region's local agency,

[8:27] school, university, previous

[8:30] avenue

[8:33] private sector emergency

[8:35] managers are greatly appreciated by

[8:36] the

[8:38] counties they deserve. We declare

[8:42] the

[8:45] month

[8:48] of august,

[8:51] 2025 as capcog emergency appreciation

[8:53] month. Commitment, dedication, of

[8:57] local agency school,

[8:59] university, private sector manager

[9:01] managers in the capcog region.

[9:02] >> just

[9:03] an observation, we

[9:06] do

[9:09] this

[9:12] every

[9:15] year

[9:18] in

[9:21] august. Leading

[9:24] up to hurricane month. A lot of

[9:27] things. I'm very proud

[9:30] of our

[9:33] county. How we can

[9:35] come together. But, it is impressive

[9:36] how different

[9:39] organizations

[9:42] do work together, come together. For the

[9:43] record

[9:45] I have a cool little badge.

[9:57] we pause in

[10:00] august to look back.

[10:03] am I ready

[10:06] for.

[10:09] >> our focus

[10:12] in texas.

[10:30] all of our

[10:36] [ inaudible ]

[10:42] and then we

[10:48] also have .

[10:54] we feel like it

[10:57] is

[11:00] part

[11:06] of, we look ahead

[11:09] , there,

[11:12] and

[11:15] that will be held.

[11:45] >> all right, that

[11:48] brings us to our public

[11:50] comment and public testimony portion. So,

[11:51] members of the public who

[11:54] wish to participate during public

[11:55] comment must

[11:56] complete a forum and turn that forum

[11:58] into city clerk before this

[12:01] time is called

[12:03] and members of the public who wish

[12:04] to

[12:05] participate must complete a form. And

[12:07] turn that in before that agenda

[12:10] item is called this evening. I

[12:13] do

[12:14] have one public comment form. Only

[12:16] one. So

[12:19] if I could have brandon clark

[12:22] please

[12:24] come to the podium? If you would state

[12:27] your name and address. You have your

[12:28] three

[12:30] minutes, sir.

[12:31] >> hi, good evening. My

[12:32] name

[12:33] is brandon clark. I have been a buda

[12:37] resident since

[12:39] august 23rd, 2019 at 2230 intrepid

[12:40] drive

[12:43] in the meadow

[12:46] park subdivision. Good evening

[12:47] councilmembers, mayor. Brandon clark,

[12:49] I'm proud buda

[12:51] resident and we have been here since

[12:52] I

[12:54] was just before I turned 30. Purchased our

[12:55] home,

[12:58] august 23rd, two days before

[13:00] my 30th birthday which is a proud

[13:01] moment for myself, I was

[13:04] able to move out and

[13:06] own my own home without being 30 living

[13:07] with my parents

[13:10] which was pretty great for me. It

[13:12] is a great quiet neighborhood and

[13:14] we have great neighbors. It is nice

[13:16] to have a place to

[13:19] call my own. But that time was

[13:22] pretty short

[13:25] lived. August 23rd, 2023,

[13:26] at the address 750 f.m. 2001 which

[13:28] is right behind

[13:31] my backyard. We had

[13:32] progress coffee open. And, progress

[13:34] coffee was initially

[13:36] offered as a cafe and coffee shop

[13:40] which was short lived. About

[13:42] a month after they opened, they had

[13:43] switched

[13:46] to a bar. And, within that first

[13:47] day of opening, they celebrated their

[13:49] opening which is great

[13:52] with a five

[13:53] piece band. And, that band was about

[13:55] as loud as you would

[13:58] imagine it

[14:01] being at buck's backyard. So with

[14:02] that band

[14:03] playing very loud, it was something,

[14:04] where

[14:06] doing what we could. Tried calling

[14:07] the business. Got

[14:10] no response from the business. They

[14:13] we ended up

[14:16] calling the deputies for

[14:17] assistance with sound complaints. We

[14:18] initially thought we reached out to

[14:19] the

[14:22] buda police but the deputies

[14:25] which we quickly learned

[14:27] that the buda sound ordinance we had

[14:28] followed up

[14:31] with did not

[14:34] apply to progress. Apparently

[14:37] to the address, they

[14:38] fall in county. The surrounding neighbors

[14:40] all are within the city limits. Not

[14:43] sure if the council

[14:46] is aware, but for county, there is

[14:48] no sound ordinance. Buda sound ordinance,

[14:49] the ordinance for

[14:52] residential is 63 during

[14:55] the day. There is nighttime and

[14:58] die time stipulated

[15:00] for the county. There is an 85-decibel

[15:03] limit any time, any day, no matter

[15:06] what. So with no sound ordinance in

[15:10] place, there is no nighttime, no daytime

[15:12] established. For progress, they are

[15:13] able to

[15:15] come through and play music as loud

[15:16] as they

[15:19] want. It started out on

[15:22] a friday, saturday, sunday. That quickly

[15:25] turned into live music and d.j.s

[15:28] so I'm not

[15:30] sure what bars really have ded.j.s

[15:31] that play outside of a

[15:34] six street

[15:36] bar. But that's what we experienced. I

[15:37] guess

[15:39] we are looking for assistance with

[15:40] annexation to

[15:43] be

[15:45] able to bring their little bubble

[15:46] into buda city

[15:49] limit to

[15:52] abide by

[15:55] the taxes. Thank you.

[15:56] >> thank

[16:01] you. All right, the next section is

[16:03] consent agenda. They are considered routine

[16:04] by the city council

[16:07] and will be enacted by

[16:10] one motion unless

[16:11] separate discussion is required. We

[16:13] have two items on

[16:14] consent agenda. The approval of august

[16:16] 5, 2025 special and

[16:19] regular city council

[16:22] meeting minutes and h2, the

[16:25] approval of the final fiscal year,

[16:26] the

[16:28] budget for the economic development

[16:31] corporation. We had a prior meeting

[16:34] about h2

[16:36] before this meeting in the public. Anyone

[16:37] on council want

[16:40] to pull one of these

[16:43] items or approve them

[16:45] as slate?

[16:46] >> mayor, can we pull h2

[16:47] real quick? But I will

[16:49] make a motion

[16:51] we approve h1.

[16:52] >> second. >> all right,

[16:53] a motion

[16:55] and a second for h1. All

[16:58] in favor say aye. Any

[17:01] opposed? Motion carries on

[17:04] h1. That brings h2

[17:07] as the fiscal year budget

[17:10] for the buda edc. Ms. Storm.

[17:11] >>

[17:13] this will be very quick.

[17:14] >> okay. >>

[17:16] just want the

[17:19] rest of our community to hear

[17:21] the amazing work our edc has done

[17:22] in my experience the last

[17:25] six years

[17:28] alone under the leadership of jennifer

[17:31] storm. Many of her board members are

[17:32] incredible. And the

[17:33] things that they have brought to the

[17:34] community and continue

[17:37] to bring are absolutely

[17:40] astounding. And it will change

[17:43] buda forever. We are

[17:45] still a small town. But we do sit

[17:47] next to austin

[17:48] on the 35 corridor. So this group

[17:50] is charged with

[17:51] ringing right development here in

[17:52] terms of industry, business, so I just

[17:56] want to go on

[17:58] the record saying I appreciate y'all. And

[18:01] thank you for everything you have

[18:02] done for buda.

[18:03] >> thank you very

[18:04] much. But five of you sitting up there

[18:05] have served on

[18:07] the edc and without that guidance and

[18:10] relationship these last few years we would not

[18:11] be

[18:12] where we are today. So thank all of you

[18:14] for your support and our

[18:17] staff. And board and everything

[18:20] they do every day. So thank you

[18:21] with the recognition.

[18:22] >> with that

[18:23] I will make the motion to approve.

[18:24] >>

[18:26] we have a motion and

[18:29] a second. All in favor,

[18:30] aye. Any opposed? Page two carries. That

[18:32] brings us to our first

[18:34] and only workshop this evening so

[18:35] I

[18:38] i1 is west

[18:43] oak public improvement district. Workshop. This

[18:44] is from

[18:47] our city engineer

[18:50] and development service

[18:51] director.

[18:52] >> good evening mayor and

[18:53] council. I

[18:56] want to introduce the

[18:58] west oak development proposed off

[18:59] fm1626. They

[19:02] are here to present a public

[19:05] improvement district concept for the

[19:06] west coke development. And I will

[19:08] pass off

[19:11] the presentation

[19:12] to the development team to bruise

[19:17] themselves and

[19:20] give the workshop.

[19:21] >> good

[19:22] evening. Mr. Mayor, council members. For

[19:23] the record, my

[19:26] name is steven simsick with

[19:29] the west oak development. Our

[19:30] team is here as ms. Kennedy stated

[19:32] to give a pit workshop, but

[19:35] also to give you an update on

[19:36] where the project stands. Since we

[19:37] saw you last in december, we have

[19:38] been

[19:41] working on a lot

[19:42] of details on the project and we think

[19:44] we solved a lot of key

[19:45] elements of the project and we want

[19:47] your feedback on

[19:50] that today. And

[19:51] the public improvement district is

[19:53] a key element of

[19:56] that. We have our full

[19:57] team here. And particularly patrick

[19:59] bourn to wac you through

[20:02] what we

[20:05] are looking at

[20:08] there. So to introduce our team,

[20:09] we are the developers. , derook couldn't

[20:11] be here this evening but

[20:13] he passes on his regards. We added

[20:14] a

[20:15] few members. Corresponding with the

[20:17] pid and some other

[20:20] features of

[20:23] the project. Jeff howard, of mcclain

[20:26] and howard is

[20:28] our development counsel. I mentioned

[20:29] patrick

[20:32] bourn of sun dance analytics. He

[20:35] is our pid

[20:36] financial consultant. Elliot jones

[20:38] is on the

[20:41] residential portion of our

[20:42] project. And bryan grace remains our

[20:43] engineer but he is not available tonight.

[20:53] before

[20:55] we get to the pid, just a few update

[20:59] slides to

[21:02] let you know where

[21:03] the project stands today. West oak

[21:05] was always intended to

[21:08] be a

[21:09] key development, a walkable missioned

[21:11] use development to

[21:12] meet the comprehensive plan. 250 for

[21:14] sale town hole units

[21:17] which will increase the median

[21:20] density housing options in the area. Along

[21:23] with that, 40,000 square foot

[21:25] of retail amenities. We are protecting

[21:26] a large grove of trees,

[21:29] 70 plus trees in

[21:31] the protected signature heritage categories. That

[21:32] is kind of

[21:35] embedded in a two acre park with

[21:37] 5,000 feet of trails weaving through

[21:38] the project. And $19

[21:39] million of infrastructure investment

[21:41] are part of the project. We

[21:44] have other details we will

[21:47] show you, but those

[21:50] are the the key elements. I also wanted

[21:53] to state tonight, we

[21:56] listen to

[21:59] the community. To

[22:02] go back

[22:05] about 16 months march march 26 of

[22:06] 2024. We

[22:08] kind

[22:11] of

[22:14] took the feedback and

[22:17] listens to the reasons

[22:20] why it wasn't

[22:22] approved. We drop it down to 2019. Folks

[22:26] said it

[22:28] was too tall, the four stories would block

[22:29] view

[22:32] of the hill country. We

[22:35] heard that for sale

[22:37] was preferable to rental. Folks also

[22:38] said

[22:40] it was too dense at 20.7 units an

[22:44] acre so we dropped that down to

[22:47] nine units

[22:50] an acre. We heard the impervious

[22:53] cover was too high. We heard that four

[22:54] drive

[22:55] throughs was too many. So we dropped

[22:56] that down to two. And plus the possibility

[22:59] of a drive through

[23:01] attach today the inline building. We

[23:02] did all of

[23:05] this by maintaining the

[23:08] amenities. Open space drops because

[23:11] open

[23:14] space is con figured

[23:17] per the

[23:20] number of residential units. We have

[23:22] a lot of enhanced landscaping along

[23:23] the

[23:26] right

[23:29] of way,

[23:31] coal springs road. Retail did drop

[23:32] from 97,000 square

[23:35] feet down to 40. And I have another

[23:38] slide I will cover

[23:41] the reasons for that. So maybe

[23:44] I'll hold on that topic for

[23:47] now. But we

[23:50] did

[23:53] that maintaining the curb. Keeping

[23:54] a

[23:56] signature restaurant building in

[23:59] the plan. As well as the inline for

[24:00] smaller shops

[24:02] and

[24:05] restaurants that

[24:08] served the community. So the details on

[24:09] the

[24:11] retail program, 40,000 square foot. 9,500

[24:12] square

[24:14] foot family concept. That's the picture

[24:15] on the

[24:18] top. 7,500

[24:19] square foot signature restaurant. That

[24:21] is the picture on the

[24:24] lower left. And we also have

[24:26] 16,000 square foot inline shops. And

[24:27] two

[24:30] 3,500

[24:33] square foot individual buildings.

[24:36] so one of

[24:37] the things asked of us was to look

[24:39] at some of the

[24:40] other successful projects in buda. So

[24:42] we did that and did a bit of

[24:44] a comparison to show where we stack

[24:45] up. And I think

[24:48] when you look at

[24:51] it, we

[24:53] have a really contextual project. We

[24:54] looked at the

[24:56] bend, the corner on main, and compared

[24:57] that with west oak. So if

[25:00] you look at land

[25:02] area for example devoted to commercial. We

[25:03] are at

[25:04] 13 acres in the middle of the pack

[25:06] with others

[25:09] ranging from nine

[25:12] to 14

[25:14] acres. In terms of building area for

[25:15] commercial, we

[25:17] are at 40,000 feet. Right at the middle

[25:21] of the sed, the others

[25:24] are at 50,000,

[25:26] 48,000 or 15,000 square feet. We have

[25:30] a nice anchor. A family concept,

[25:33] the moon water saloon, tap

[25:35] in golf. Same thing with tenants. Food

[25:36] and

[25:38] beverage related. Service for the

[25:39] local

[25:40] community. And then, amenities, some

[25:42] folks have a little bit

[25:44] of amenities. The bend has a nice

[25:48] set. We have a nice

[25:51] set. With parks, trails,

[25:54] outdoor

[25:57] uses like pickle ball. And

[25:59] rural heritage. We will have the 40-foot landscape

[26:00] buffer in the front

[26:03] of our project which helps

[26:05] a lot with curb appeal. And we have

[26:06] a

[26:08] lot of infrastructure we have to bring. A

[26:09] new traffic

[26:12] light. New collector road. Which other

[26:18] projects don't have to do. So those

[26:19] are the metrics, curb appeal is something that

[26:21] we

[26:23] are, that is very important. It is

[26:27] to

[26:29] us, the city, to tenants. This image

[26:33] shows what you

[26:36] can

[26:39] do with landscaping, signage. The

[26:42] highway. This image shows the outdoor

[26:43] family concept. Kind

[26:45] of embedded in the

[26:48] trees and

[26:50] the park to create a sense of place. This

[26:51] shows

[26:53] the restaurant building with outdoor

[26:54] space around it to

[26:57] kind

[27:00] of activate the area. Along coal

[27:02] springs road with a multiuse pass

[27:03] to create

[27:05] a nice boulevard effect. This shows

[27:06] how the

[27:09] whole plan comes together

[27:11] with the two signature buildings framing

[27:12] the

[27:15] pond and coal springs road in

[27:21] a park like setting. So in terms

[27:24] of the

[27:27] residential, the program is

[27:29] 215 town home units for sale. This

[27:30] help it is retail to

[27:33] have this residential

[27:35] behind it. We dropped it down to two

[27:36] stories. Adds to the development

[27:39] of housing options in

[27:45] west buda. And

[27:47] more importantly, it is compatible

[27:48] with commercial. The corridor studied

[27:49] to

[27:50] have commercial along the frontage. And

[27:51] some kind

[27:54] of

[27:57] medium density use behind it. And

[28:00] we

[28:03] are

[28:09] basing the town homes

[28:12] off of harvest meadows but

[28:15] we have

[28:18] made some improvements. One of them

[28:21] being

[28:23] sure we have a 50-foot. A lot of times

[28:24] you don't

[28:26] have the right space for streetscape. And

[28:27] the other thing we are

[28:29] doing is increaseing the setback of the

[28:30] buildings of

[28:33] 25 feet from 20. To ensure that cars

[28:34] and

[28:36] trucks when they park in the

[28:39] driveway

[28:42] don't

[28:48] encroach on the sidewalk.

[28:51] the traffic is

[28:54] reduced by 45%. We are able to

[28:57] maintain all of the

[29:03] traffic improvements that

[29:06] total $6 million. One of each entrance

[29:08] of safety. The new extension of coal

[29:09] springs

[29:11] road. These are public roads we build

[29:12] and dedicate to the

[29:15] city. These

[29:18] all kind of go along, we

[29:21] are

[29:24] building a portion of

[29:25] that. Parks trails and open space,

[29:27] 5,000 feet,

[29:29] trails through the projects. Two acres of

[29:30] open space will be

[29:33] accessible to the public. And

[29:36] a

[29:39] one acre

[29:42] private amenity. So now to infrastructure. This

[29:45] slide shows how west okay kind

[29:47] of fulfills the puzzle. The colony

[29:48] and the reserve

[29:52] are

[29:54] bringing roads, traffic, infrastructure,

[29:55] as well

[29:56] as water and waste water utilities

[29:58] all

[30:01] the way to

[30:03] the f.m. 1626 corridor and west oak

[30:04] completes

[30:05] that. The last piece of the puzzle.

[30:13] so there is a

[30:16] lot of detail on

[30:18] this slide that got cut off. And I

[30:19] didn't intend to

[30:21] go through every number on this page anyway. But,

[30:22] the idea was

[30:24] to show you all the categories of

[30:27] infrastructure that we are bringing. Right? So,

[30:31] we

[30:34] are bringing

[30:36] what utility lines east of f.m. 1626. That is the blue and

[30:39] orange on the page. We are also up

[30:41] sizing utilities through west oak. And

[30:43] that's going

[30:44] west, south, and north. So above and

[30:46] beyond what we are bringing

[30:49] to serve our project. We are up

[30:51] sizing to kind of connect to future

[30:52] development around

[30:54] us. We are also creating a water loop. So

[30:57] that again, other developments can

[30:58] tie

[31:00] in fairly easily. Then we have road

[31:01] and traffic

[31:04] infrastructure

[31:05] we have talked about already. Then

[31:07] there are some categories of

[31:08] other including, you know, the water

[31:10] quality pond and

[31:11] water treatment. And then, a number

[31:13] of items are

[31:15] going to the residential infrastructure. Some

[31:16] of which is public.

[31:24] those become public infrastructure. It's

[31:27] a little unfortunate this slide didn't come through and we

[31:31] had some of this

[31:34] information

[31:40] we provided to staff.

[31:49] some of

[31:51] these categories we are proposing

[31:54] impact fee credits for. These items

[31:58] are for the cip. These

[32:01] projects

[32:04] you would have built otherwise. We

[32:06] have a number that is applied for

[32:07] the pid

[32:10] that patrick is going

[32:11] to explain. And I thought I could

[32:13] read that off the

[32:16] screen

[32:19] but

[32:22] social security not there.

[32:23] >> and

[32:24] steven, I see what you see on the

[32:25] screen. But the link on

[32:26] the website, it shows the full picture.

[32:28] >> so you guys are able to see

[32:31] it.

[32:32] >> I'm looking at both all

[32:34] the time. But, we do see that is

[32:37] $19

[32:40] million. 2.6

[32:43] is impact fees. Funded

[32:44] by pid, 7.8 million. It is on the

[32:46] bottom of

[32:48] the screen you can't see, what the developer

[32:49] pays. If you really

[32:52] want to, we can

[32:54] kind of switch it and go and make

[32:55] it. I think this is

[32:58] an important page

[33:01] is what I'm getting to.

[33:02] >> if you are

[33:03] able to

[33:04] do

[33:07] that,

[33:10] that would be great.

[33:11] >> but

[33:12] as we work on that, you can keep moving

[33:13] forward. We will find

[33:16] it on the city's website. It is on

[33:17] the presentation for us. So

[33:19] we have it.

[33:20] >> I

[33:22] think it

[33:25] is a different slide actually.

[33:26] >>

[33:27] is

[33:28] there a different file we can call

[33:29] up

[33:31] up? , is that what you

[33:33] are saying?

[33:34] >> she actually went back to the

[33:35] power point

[33:37] slide.

[33:38] >>

[33:40] these don't line

[33:43] up.

[33:44] >> okay. >> there you

[33:45] go, that's the full picture. We entered

[33:46] comments

[33:49] like the developers

[33:52] posted to

[33:53] build this infrastructure. We also heard

[33:55] comments like be

[33:58] careful about asking for

[34:01] incentives. So this was our plan to drag

[34:02] it ourselves. The

[34:03] city doesn't have the contract to

[34:04] do it. They don't have to manage the

[34:05] construction

[34:06] of any of these items. And again,

[34:07] we are doing this

[34:09] without asking y'all to write any

[34:10] kind

[34:12] of checks for these things. The way

[34:13] we do

[34:16] that again,

[34:19] to cover that 19.3, there's 2.6

[34:22] that

[34:25] come from impact fees. 7.8

[34:28] come from the pid. Patrick and jeff

[34:29] and

[34:31] else yont can

[34:33] explain this better than I. That is

[34:34] like a lower

[34:36] cost of debt for us. That is paid

[34:37] for by the

[34:39] project or paid for by residence. We

[34:40] are actually going

[34:43] to

[34:46] attach that

[34:49] to the retail. Administrative cost,

[34:52] all of that is

[34:54] paid for out of the pid funding and we pay

[34:55] the rest out

[34:57] of our project finance. This is our

[34:58] way to

[35:01] bring all of this

[35:04] infrastructure. And all the benefits. Basically

[35:05] having

[35:07] us drag it

[35:10] and run the project.

[35:16] we can come

[35:18] back to this. But the other thing

[35:19] that we could

[35:21] ask is you know, why should buda do

[35:22] this. We thought it would be

[35:25] good to lay out all of the benefits

[35:26] of

[35:27] west oak on one page. And, go through

[35:28] that before we

[35:31] get into the pid. So, the benefits

[35:34] of west oak again,

[35:37] the $19 million of

[35:40] infrastructure question just mentioned. 8.6

[35:43] of these

[35:45] are public utilities. Traffic improvements. 3.3 of these

[35:46] are already on

[35:50] the

[35:53] cip or the

[35:56] transportation master plan which

[35:58] would lower your cost. They generate

[36:01] fiscal and economic benefits. $88million

[36:03] investment in the corridor. This generates

[36:05] $10

[36:06] million of positive fiscal impacts

[36:08] over 20 years to buda. This is

[36:10] to the city of buda. There's also

[36:11] benefit to the

[36:12] county and the school district. This

[36:14] is 10 million

[36:17] directly to buda. It will

[36:20] generate 40 plus permanent

[36:21] jobs. And the zoning benefits. We

[36:23] designed this to be

[36:26] the realization of the

[36:29] corridor as we mentioned. And we are

[36:32] bringing 40,000 square foot

[36:35] of retail. And

[36:37] diversifying the housing stock. And

[36:38] I think

[36:41] in some,

[36:43] we are trying to just ask for as little

[36:44] as

[36:45] possible and deliver as much as possible

[36:46] so we really trimmed down our ask. We

[36:50] worked with staff to

[36:52] eliminate as many zoning modifications

[36:53] as possible. The old

[36:56] plan had a request of

[36:59] $5 million of incentives with

[37:02] edc. We

[37:04] have taken that out. So we have tried today lower

[37:05] the ask and keep

[37:06] all the benefits and we are asking

[37:08] y'all

[37:11] to

[37:13] look at this comprehensively. Hopefully, you look

[37:14] at it like we do as a good deal for all.

[37:20] so I think I will turn

[37:22] it over to patrick to go over the

[37:23] pid. Unless you

[37:26] want to

[37:28] stop to talk about the infrastructure

[37:29] now.

[37:30] >>

[37:32] let's go ahead and do the

[37:35] pid. We have

[37:37] a couple now. So we do understand

[37:39] the terminology manufacture than we

[37:40] did. Let's put the whole package together

[37:41] and

[37:44] we will

[37:47] circle

[37:48] back with questions.

[37:49] >> mayor, member

[37:50] of council, I appreciate your

[37:52] time. This evening to allow us to

[37:53] go through this

[37:56] presentation

[37:59] with you. My name

[38:00] is patrick horne. I want to reintroduce

[38:02] myself to you and thank

[38:03] you for your time. I know that you

[38:05] have been through the pid process

[38:06] before so I don't want to go through

[38:08] this in a

[38:09] super amount of details. But I did

[38:11] think it would be beneficial to at

[38:14] least

[38:17] touch iten from an

[38:19] overall view as to the way public

[38:20] improvement districts

[38:23] work. As

[38:26] we

[38:29] look at

[38:30] the public improvement district, the

[38:32] way it works putting it in a nutshell

[38:34] is that the developer requests the city

[38:35] to

[38:38] place a lien on their property. That

[38:40] lien is then repaid over a period

[38:44] of time, typically

[38:45] 30 years. The city using those repayment

[38:47] that's are coming

[38:49] over, coming back over that 30 year

[38:50] period is able

[38:53] to issue tax exempt bonds. Which

[38:56] provide a lower interest rate, a lower

[38:58] cost of financing, those bonds are

[38:59] then

[39:01] repaid by the property owners, repaid

[39:02] by those

[39:03] 30 years of payments. Those payments

[39:05] are only made by

[39:07] property owners within the district of

[39:10] this pid which would be coterminous

[39:11] with the boundaries

[39:13] of the project itself. No payments

[39:14] would be placed on

[39:17] any property outside

[39:20] the boundaries of this project to

[39:21] repay

[39:22] the tax exempt bonds being issued

[39:23] by the city. As we

[39:25] look at this, just one of the things

[39:26] I like

[39:29] to remind councils and members

[39:31] of the public is that this lien, these

[39:32] pids have no impact

[39:34] on property outside the boundaries

[39:35] of the pid

[39:37] itself at the project. That lower

[39:38] interest rate, that

[39:40] lower cost of financing is what provides

[39:41] the ability to

[39:43] put in the amount of infrastructure

[39:44] that was

[39:47] being

[39:49] discussed through this presentation.

[39:50] that infrastructure is the

[39:51] lardest hurdle to get any development moving

[39:53] forward particularly when you are

[39:54] looking

[39:56] at a smaller development with large

[39:59] amounts of off

[40:02] side

[40:03] infrastructure. Bringing in regional

[40:04] infrastructure. It is critical to

[40:05] maintain

[40:08] the lowest cost financing

[40:10] as possible. The pid proceeds can't

[40:11] be used for

[40:14] private improvements. They can't be

[40:17] used for vertical. They can only be

[40:18] used

[40:19] for public infrastructure dedicated,

[40:20] conveyed or leased

[40:23] for the benefit of

[40:26] the city. We talked about the

[40:29] type of bonds, not rated. These bonds

[40:30] are in no way

[40:32] on able grace by the city. They

[40:35] are only secured by the property that

[40:36] is within

[40:37] the boundaries of the pid. Though

[40:38] the ponds are issued

[40:40] by tax exempt bonds by the city, the

[40:41] city

[40:44] and its

[40:46] residents have no responsibility whatsoever. It was

[40:47] only secured by

[40:50] the property within

[40:53] the boundaries of the pid.

[41:01] we insist the city create a you said

[41:02] p lick improvement district to help

[41:05] fund the cost for a

[41:08] portion

[41:11] of that public infrastructure.

[41:20] did that move forward? The way we

[41:22] are looking to propose this public

[41:23] improvement district, is that

[41:25] first of all, all costs associated

[41:26] by the pid will be

[41:28] paid by the pid. The city would not

[41:29] come out of pocket for

[41:32] any

[41:35] of the creation costs, or out of pocket

[41:36] for any

[41:37] of the bond issuance cost. It would

[41:38] be paid for by the pid and

[41:41] not be paid by

[41:46] any residents of the city. I know

[41:47] you had experience

[41:50] with other pids in the past. We anticipate

[41:51] that this

[41:54] would be

[41:57] a

[42:03] single pid bond issue.

[42:06] to help

[42:09] assist with the construction

[42:12] financing for

[42:13] the public improvements only. We are

[42:15] currently looking at a

[42:18] tax rate of 299 per $100 of

[42:21] assessed

[42:27] values on the project.

[42:30] one of

[42:33] the things we are looking

[42:35] at, this pid would be a level structure. It

[42:36] would remain

[42:38] approximately level the entire term

[42:41] of that third year period. No escalation. Though

[42:42] home

[42:45] values and values make increase over

[42:46] time, the payments would remain essentially

[42:48] level and not

[42:51] inflate or escalate with the

[42:53] value of the homes. One of the other

[42:54] things

[42:57] we

[43:00] wanted

[43:06] to point out here,

[43:09] annexing in the city

[43:11] boundaries. They are voluntarily taking

[43:15] on the

[43:18] city tax break. In an effort

[43:24] to keep them competitive.

[43:27] we are

[43:28] not requesting this. As mentioned

[43:30] by steven, we are not requesting

[43:33] the benefits

[43:36] from the city. The pid installments

[43:37] would

[43:39] be paid

[43:42] by the

[43:44] property owners. As we move through

[43:45] process, the

[43:47] request would be to work, continue

[43:48] working

[43:51] with

[43:54] the

[43:57] city and their staff.

[44:00] as

[44:02] we go through each one of those steps,

[44:03] approve will

[44:06] be required by city council. As

[44:09] we provide a pid petition. As we

[44:11] go forward with hopefully the creation

[44:12] of the pid. And ultimately,

[44:14] the issuance of the bonds. All of

[44:15] those are different steps where

[44:18] we would be working with

[44:21] staff. The whole time. And continually

[44:23] providing feedback and receiving approval

[44:24] from the

[44:26] city council prior to moving forward

[44:27] with

[44:30] any

[44:33] of those those steps. That

[44:36] kind

[44:39] of

[44:42] wraps up the overview.

[44:54] >> thank you. Thank you patrick. We

[44:55] will,

[44:57] questions

[45:00] from council? We have a few.

[45:01] >> thank

[45:02] you

[45:03] very much for the presentation. I

[45:04] have a couple of

[45:05] questions about the infrastructure. So,

[45:06] if we could go back to the slide where

[45:07] I think you

[45:09] outlined

[45:15] some of the items.

[45:18] so we are talking about

[45:21] a pid to cover the

[45:24] utility

[45:26] lines. The regional water loop. Roads. What

[45:30] else is in here? Residential infrastructure. So,

[45:32] on a typical bill, those are things

[45:36] that

[45:39] you would

[45:42] normally cover half.

[45:43] >> it is

[45:44] common for residential projects when

[45:45] you have this much infrastructure,

[45:47] that you do something with a pid or

[45:48] a mud. We were trying

[45:51] to

[45:54] keep this presentation a little we

[45:55] didn't

[45:57] want to pound you with a lot of detail

[45:58] but we

[45:59] have something we can provide where

[46:00] we

[46:02] looked at west oak versus the other

[46:03] pids and muds that

[46:06] had been done in buda. So

[46:09] like although

[46:12] we

[46:15] are a little smaller. That is

[46:18] similar

[46:21] to projects like

[46:24] persimmon

[46:26] that had done something similar. If

[46:27] there is a

[46:29] lower amount of investment, you might

[46:30] not need

[46:33] a pid or a mud. We were

[46:36] able to spread the

[46:41] infrastructure across the project. But when

[46:42] question drop the

[46:45] number of units, the project

[46:48] doesn't work without a pid or

[46:49] a mud structure.

[46:50] >> okay. So then,

[46:51] my follow-up question would be

[46:54] is if you weren't

[46:56] granted a pid, how would you finance

[46:57] this?

[46:58] >> I don't

[47:00] think we can. I don't know

[47:02] how we would do it. Maybe a further answer to

[47:03] your question is there

[47:06] are some

[47:09] project that's

[47:12] don't have to build the extension

[47:13] of

[47:14] a public road. Maybe they have water

[47:15] and sewer to their property

[47:18] and don't have

[47:21] as many off site. It is really on

[47:22] a site by

[47:24] site basis, whether you have

[47:28] all of those

[47:29] infrastructure items. And how much

[47:31] you spend

[47:35] over your total project. Did I get

[47:37] that right as

[47:38] to why the residential projects need

[47:40] the

[47:46] pids and the

[47:49] muds?

[47:50] >> good

[47:51] evening council. Elliot jones. I heard his

[47:55] answer. I guess if I were to

[47:58] add anything,

[48:01] how would

[48:03] you finance it? The reason behind

[48:04] the

[48:07] request is really what he

[48:09] had described that it provides low

[48:10] cost financing alternative that allows

[48:13] you

[48:16] to put more infrastructure

[48:19] in because of the access to

[48:20] the tax exempt debt. Basically it

[48:21] is lower interest rate. The effect

[48:22] of

[48:25] the pid, it is money that

[48:30] has to be paid back. It is borne by

[48:31] taxpayers to the extent

[48:33] that someone will buy and pay a town

[48:34] home. What they can

[48:36] pay for it, it has to be offset by selling

[48:37] the town

[48:40] home for less for example. To

[48:42] make the same payment. So, but since it

[48:43] is a cost of debt

[48:46] that is lower than what

[48:49] you get, just raising debt

[48:51] or, traditional debt financing through

[48:52] a

[48:53] bank. And equity, it improves the

[48:55] project economics to the

[48:58] extent to allow you to fit more infrastructure

[49:01] in. So

[49:04] sorry

[49:05] for that explanation. But, that's

[49:07] all I got.

[49:08] >> no worries. I have a

[49:09] couple more real quick questions. So,

[49:10] what's

[49:13] the average square foot you

[49:16] are looking as for these 219

[49:19] town homes?

[49:20] >> they

[49:22] are

[49:25] about 2,000 square feet.

[49:26] >> what

[49:28] what is

[49:29] your average price?

[49:30] >> right around 400,000.

[49:36] >> do you think that is viable in the

[49:40] market right

[49:43] now?

[49:44] >> we do. This is

[49:46] an

[49:47] attractive sub market. There's been

[49:49] successful town home project ins the

[49:50] area

[49:51] and they have resold well. When they

[49:52] go back on

[49:55] the market,

[49:56] they are selling very well and there

[49:58] is not a lot of that product here so

[50:01] I think it will be attractive.

[50:07] >> okay. I'm going to trust that

[50:10] you are good with that. Because I'm thinking

[50:11] at 2,000

[50:12] square feet, we have homes right now

[50:13] in neighborhoods

[50:16] that are pretty well established that

[50:17] are 2600

[50:18] square feet and they are not selling

[50:19] for

[50:20] 400,000. I get these are new. I get

[50:22] that you will sell it

[50:25] as a

[50:28] new

[50:29] development. But just keeping in mind

[50:31] once we have this workshop, we

[50:32] have having these conversations, coming

[50:34] back to us will be a whole other

[50:37] conversation if we have

[50:39] to revisit this because that will

[50:40] be your gap. Can you sell

[50:42] it for the price you are selling it

[50:43] for. If we approve a pid,

[50:45] how high can you go on the amount

[50:46] you can charge

[50:49] on that

[50:50] in order to recoop something. And

[50:51] whether or not financially it will

[50:52] work

[50:55] for you guys to build

[50:57] this. So I am going to trust that

[50:58] you are good with

[51:00] that.

[51:01] >> we are good with it. And

[51:02] the

[51:04] project moves

[51:07] forward

[51:10] along with the pid the

[51:11] other financing decisions are made at

[51:13] the same

[51:16] time we initiate the

[51:17] pid funding. We wouldn't go forward

[51:19] with the pid if we weren't going to

[51:20] sell

[51:22] the units. It wasn't as

[51:25] easy

[51:27] as it was in 2020. In 2021. It is

[51:28] a little harder

[51:31] in the housing market. But

[51:34] that is why we need

[51:37] this. We have engineered this as

[51:40] far

[51:46] as we could go.

[51:52] >> affordability is an

[51:54] issue. They are looking for communities

[51:55] south of

[51:57] boston and affordability. If we build 219

[51:58] town

[52:01] homes

[52:04] at 200 square foot each. Maybe two

[52:05] or three

[52:07] or four could squeeze in there and

[52:08] $400,000 is

[52:10] a lot of

[52:13] money for 2,000 square feet. I don't

[52:14] want

[52:15] this to be performative. I want to

[52:16] make

[52:18] sure you guys have buttenned your

[52:19] belts and are coming at

[52:22] us

[52:25] with

[52:28] what's going to be. No bait and switch.

[52:29] >>

[52:30] no, we

[52:31] are not bait and

[52:34] switching. We believe

[52:36] this project works.

[52:37] >> questions? Comments? Mr.

[52:38] smith?

[52:39] >> probably more comments

[52:40] than questions. Thank you for being

[52:41] here tonight. And

[52:43] all the presents for providing an

[52:44] update. This project

[52:46] has

[52:49] been going around and around. Trust

[52:50] has

[52:51] been mentioned. Trust will verify. When

[52:55] I hear words like project doesn't

[52:59] work, we have a developer

[53:02] in front of us. I can

[53:03] respect that. I absolutely can. We all

[53:05] work to make money to

[53:07] support our families. I totally get

[53:08] that. We

[53:09] have no idea. We are working blindly

[53:11] here on what

[53:13] that number truly is. We start talking

[53:15] about public financing, like pids,

[53:20] to change what's out

[53:22] there now, into a medium density residential

[53:26] development, and we are

[53:28] in a year right now where tax rates

[53:29] are going

[53:31] up. Home values are going down. Revenues

[53:35] are tight on the city

[53:38] side. And we look at a $400,000

[53:41] town

[53:44] home and a

[53:46] potential 353500 annual additional

[53:47] cost. If this trend

[53:48] continues that will squeeze the homeowners

[53:50] in the future. It will squeeze them,

[53:52] it will squeeze us as far as what

[53:53] we can expect a

[53:56] homeowner to pay in the form

[53:58] of all kinds of taxes. Whether it

[54:01] is school bonds, city boppeds, property

[54:05] taxes. It just

[54:08] need to

[54:11] be perfect. And the 17

[54:13] months I believe you referenced earlier. A

[54:14] bait

[54:15] and switch was mentioned. That is

[54:17] what we are treading here

[54:18] on this development. We saw something

[54:20] when times were, looked

[54:21] like it was workable and every time

[54:23] it came back, it was

[54:25] a little bit different. And this one,

[54:26] the

[54:27] financial piece of it is already a

[54:29] challenge. It

[54:32] is a

[54:35] challenge for you guys

[54:36] to make the project work. We see the challenge

[54:38] it will be on the homeowners.

[54:41] that is something we will

[54:44] collectively

[54:49] have to work out. I would like to

[54:50] make

[54:52] a recommendation side by side. This

[54:56] speak to

[54:57] that trust factor. At the beginning

[54:59] of the presentation it was

[55:02] a side by side comparison

[55:05] that favored

[55:08] okay let's do this. But then, when

[55:09] councilmember williams was asking

[55:10] about infrastructure, it gets tough

[55:14] to compare

[55:17] side by side

[55:20] right? So setting a precedent comparing

[55:23] the sites,

[55:26] just not a good look. So back to

[55:32] the

[55:35] slide I mentioned. The bend. No residential

[55:40] component whatsoever. The shops at

[55:41] garlic creek. Quarter and

[55:44] main. You

[55:47] have this mixed model

[55:48] okay? My interpretation of you can't

[55:50] compare side by side. Those

[55:53] are not good comparisons. They

[55:59] are sales tax generating

[56:00] commercial retail development. If

[56:02] we are going to compare, I want to

[56:05] compare

[56:07] something apples to apples which you

[56:08] guys are willing to

[56:11] do it. Buda

[56:14] is in a position where

[56:16] every project is unique. Every project should

[56:17] bring something to the

[56:18] community especially when we are going to

[56:19] roll out a pid program when we know

[56:20] the resident ins

[56:21] the future will be wedged between

[56:23] paying what they are

[56:26] required to pay and watching

[56:29] their

[56:30] other tax rates fluctuate. That will

[56:32] be a challenge

[56:35] so we have to nail this. It will be

[56:38] amazing. We said this

[56:40] in our previous pids. They are not

[56:41] just

[56:42] there for regular infrastructure. They

[56:44] are there for amazing

[56:46] blow us away. Which we saw from the

[56:47] very first

[56:48] presentation. I was sitting right

[56:50] here. The drone

[56:53] flying over,

[56:55] the whole thing. It was amazing. On

[56:56] board. Then

[56:59] things changed and we were not on

[57:00] board. I

[57:02] love the workshop environment

[57:05] because it allow

[57:07] this feedback. I'm nowhere near making

[57:08] a commitment

[57:10] on anything. Is there is nowhere you

[57:11] cannot squeeze the homeowners,

[57:13] take on responsibility for the development

[57:14] itself and I'm not

[57:16] talking about the oversized public

[57:17] infrastructure, I understand the impact

[57:18] for

[57:19] your credit. Not talking about that. We

[57:20] are asking you

[57:22] guys to oversize. Where you wouldn't

[57:23] need

[57:26] to. Not even worried about that. That's

[57:27] on

[57:28] us. But if you guys can lessen the

[57:29] future burden

[57:31] on these future home buyers, our future

[57:32] citizens that

[57:35] will come here, you can

[57:37] increase your sales tax generators.

[57:38] you can very much further down on

[57:41] the list behind

[57:44] those two. But, make

[57:47] it unique. I

[57:50] love the buildings further to

[57:53] the south, southeast, the

[57:56] buildings on the south. When you creep

[57:57] back toward the

[57:58] north. I didn't see any elevation

[57:59] on those so I don't know what

[58:02] it looks like from

[58:04] the road. It was all aerial on those

[58:05] but we got

[58:07] nice elevation on those other buildings

[58:08] and they look

[58:11] amazing. If we

[58:14] can match the north side

[58:17] I think we are getting closer to a wow factor,

[58:18] I will leave

[58:20] that up to you guys. But

[58:23] feel

[58:24] free. It is a workshop. There wasn't

[58:26] really a question in there. These

[58:29] were

[58:31] more observations and comments.

[58:32] >> councilmember

[58:33] smith,

[58:35] I appreciate the

[58:38] feedback. That

[58:41] is what this is for. There is a lot

[58:44] in what you

[58:47] said. So I want to

[58:50] respond. Maybe first on

[58:52] the trust thing. We just can't do

[58:54] what we showed you

[58:57] back then. We have been trying

[59:00] to put this

[59:03] together. It ends up being,

[59:06] I'll call it a contextual

[59:07] project. Something that is similar

[59:08] to the other retail projects and I

[59:09] will

[59:12] get to the side by side

[59:15] thing in a minute. I asked

[59:17] the staff some questions on this. Like

[59:18] what

[59:20] should this look like. We went back

[59:21] on

[59:22] forth on rural heritage. And they

[59:26] talked about some examples, circle

[59:30] c onslaughter lane was one. That

[59:32] is mentioned in the comprehensive plan. So

[59:33] I took

[59:34] a look at that. You have setbacks

[59:36] for trees

[59:39] which

[59:41] I have. We said okay. We were resisting a

[59:42] bit

[59:45] on rural

[59:48] tore damage. It is very

[59:51] specific. It is

[59:53] very specific about design criteria. We

[59:54] have

[59:55] a few tweaks for rural heritage. But

[59:57] we said okay, is it

[1:00:00] okay if

[1:00:03] we do

[1:00:06] that? Kind of yeah. So, I get it

[1:00:07] on the wow factor. It is just that

[1:00:09] is

[1:00:12] not something that we can do so

[1:00:15] we are trying to

[1:00:16] do something that is contextual. And

[1:00:21] when you drive around, you see

[1:00:24] a

[1:00:27] lot

[1:00:30] of stone. You see that

[1:00:36] rule character. And we have, we are

[1:00:38] trying to manage how much detail we

[1:00:39] gave you all. But we have

[1:00:40] elevations of the other buildings. They

[1:00:42] match up with the

[1:00:45] udc. They match up

[1:00:47] with rural heritage. So, we are happy

[1:00:48] to do

[1:00:50] that. And, we wanted a mix. An inline

[1:00:51] building

[1:00:53] looks like an inline building but

[1:00:54] if you

[1:00:57] look at circle c, they are like inline

[1:00:58] buildings. They are inline buildings

[1:01:00] with stone. With a lot

[1:01:03] of landscaping around them. So

[1:01:05] we can do that. And when you mentioned

[1:01:06] the side by

[1:01:09] side,

[1:01:10] the infrastructure thing is kind of

[1:01:15] a tricky thing to look

[1:01:16] at. Someone said how much infrastructure

[1:01:18] went into those? And

[1:01:20] we just didn't know. We put the presentation

[1:01:21] together and we have to do it

[1:01:24] like a week out to give it to

[1:01:25] you all. So we can look at that and

[1:01:27] see how much did they

[1:01:30] have to put in for that? Did they

[1:01:31] do

[1:01:33] a traffic

[1:01:34] light or new roads? So, it is kind

[1:01:36] of case by case. You

[1:01:42] know. We have another analysis

[1:01:45] and looked at projects and

[1:01:46] why they needed pid. So we can go

[1:01:48] through that with staff and you all. But

[1:01:51] we are trying to

[1:01:54] get over that hurdle of where we

[1:01:57] were. I have to do some

[1:02:00] math. Two

[1:02:03] years

[1:02:06] ago, something like that. We are trying

[1:02:07] to

[1:02:08] put the pieces together. Responding

[1:02:09] to staff

[1:02:11] comment. And to the zoning and then,

[1:02:12] putting together

[1:02:14] the financing of it. Right? So, we

[1:02:15] are happy

[1:02:16] to kind of walk staff through that

[1:02:18] a little bit more if that's

[1:02:21] the best way to

[1:02:24] do it. So, we hear you. I think we

[1:02:25] have

[1:02:26] addressed it. It is just sometimes,

[1:02:27] we haven't had a chance to talk about

[1:02:28] it. And you know, we have gone through

[1:02:30] a lot of detail

[1:02:33] in the past nine months with this. And

[1:02:34] it

[1:02:35] is hard to get it all in here. Maybe

[1:02:36] after

[1:02:38] this session, we'll talk with staff

[1:02:39] about what's the best

[1:02:42] way to get you folks that information to

[1:02:45] get the

[1:02:51] answers to those questions.

[1:02:53] >> more questions? >> one more question

[1:02:57] on the

[1:03:00] financial side. And

[1:03:03] I appreciate

[1:03:06] that most of what I was going

[1:03:08] to ask was by smith and horne-williams.

[1:03:09] >>

[1:03:10] : would

[1:03:11] they be charged the same $3,500 that

[1:03:12] would be attach

[1:03:15] today the retail units or

[1:03:18] is that split

[1:03:21] up differently? Would that make it

[1:03:22] lower for

[1:03:23] homeowners?

[1:03:24] >> the way we take a look

[1:03:27] at that. By law, payments have to

[1:03:28] be allocated in equitable

[1:03:30] fashion based on the benefit they

[1:03:32] receive from the public infrastructure. When

[1:03:36] we were looking at the $3,500 on average we

[1:03:39] thought just so you guys

[1:03:42] could get an idea. When we

[1:03:45] say

[1:03:47] 88 cents per assessed value, so the way

[1:03:48] you look at

[1:03:50] it from the retail, the retailers

[1:03:51] would be paying

[1:03:54] their fair share based on

[1:03:57] their estimated value as

[1:04:00] well. Of 88 cents per

[1:04:03] assessed value. That way it

[1:04:04] is being equitable. Consistent with

[1:04:06] the legal requirements that we have

[1:04:07] to

[1:04:09] pursue when

[1:04:12] creating a public improvement district.

[1:04:13] >> okay. >>

[1:04:16] we just don't have that

[1:04:18] on a per unit basis.

[1:04:19] >> just a couple of

[1:04:20] other comments and stuff. I was remembering

[1:04:25] back

[1:04:27] to the last workshop. This is, you have the

[1:04:28] last piece

[1:04:31] of the puzzle

[1:04:34] for this whole corridor. To

[1:04:37] me this is really setting

[1:04:40] a

[1:04:42] precedent for that corridor. I want

[1:04:43] this to have that

[1:04:46] wow factor, we want

[1:04:49] to get it right. I know there is that

[1:04:50] presentation to the community at the

[1:04:52] garlic creek

[1:04:55] center tomorrow. I

[1:04:56] was hoping that would happen before

[1:04:57] this workshop. I was interested in

[1:04:58] the

[1:05:03] feedback from the community. I will

[1:05:04] be

[1:05:06] following up on that. And things that I

[1:05:07] think

[1:05:10] this was very

[1:05:11] financially based, this workshop. But

[1:05:13] concerns I had from the

[1:05:14] last one, you know, turning out or

[1:05:16] not having a way to get

[1:05:19] to that light from the brewery,

[1:05:22] I still see

[1:05:25] that as

[1:05:31] a problem for me. And

[1:05:34] then, I saw

[1:05:36] you did an extra five feet of setback

[1:05:37] on the

[1:05:40] driveway to accommodate large

[1:05:41] trucks for parking in the front. I

[1:05:43] know parking in the street, parking

[1:05:46] in stuff is a problem

[1:05:49] in

[1:05:52] a lot

[1:05:55] of communities. 2,000 square

[1:05:58] foot. Family of four. I see

[1:06:01] two vehicles in the driveway

[1:06:03] and that quickly becomes more. I saw a thing

[1:06:04] there there was

[1:06:06] parking in the back to keep the parking

[1:06:07] in the streets better

[1:06:10] and a cleaner look up front. That

[1:06:12] is something that I know has been

[1:06:13] talked

[1:06:16] about. But something that I would

[1:06:17] look

[1:06:19] at.

[1:06:20] >> so, we have

[1:06:21] extra parking kind of dispersed through

[1:06:25] the

[1:06:28] project

[1:06:30] about 30 spaces. Throughout the project

[1:06:31] each unit will

[1:06:34] have a garage. Even if folks put

[1:06:37] things in the garage,

[1:06:38] they'll have two. Space for two car

[1:06:40] ins the driveway. And

[1:06:43] some spaces kind

[1:06:45] of integrated into the project.

[1:06:46] >>

[1:06:47] okay, thank

[1:06:49] you.

[1:06:50] >> and, let's talk also about the, you

[1:06:52] said getting in and

[1:06:55] out

[1:06:58] of the brewery location?

[1:07:04] do you mean turning left into

[1:07:06] the project?

[1:07:07] >> it is a busy road

[1:07:08] and it is getting

[1:07:10] busier and busier. So whereas

[1:07:12] all the other commercial, they can

[1:07:13] go up. I don't know what the

[1:07:15] name of that street will be. But they

[1:07:16] can come out and go

[1:07:19] to the light. If they are turning

[1:07:20] left

[1:07:21] going northbound, they are protected. But,

[1:07:22] coming out of there, there is no

[1:07:25] way to get to that

[1:07:28] main road. So, folks that are going

[1:07:29] north,

[1:07:31] they will cut across a pretty

[1:07:34] busy intersection

[1:07:36] there.

[1:07:37] >> yeah. You know, we don't

[1:07:38] have our

[1:07:39] traffic here today. We went through

[1:07:40] all

[1:07:43] of this with tex

[1:07:45] dot and hayes county. Let me get a

[1:07:46] little more

[1:07:49] detail

[1:07:52] on how

[1:07:54] that works.

[1:07:55] >> mr. Ture, go ahead. >>

[1:07:58] thank y'all for the presentation. Some

[1:08:01] things have

[1:08:02] already been said, including your

[1:08:04] question just there, I

[1:08:07] was

[1:08:10] going to check on that split so thank

[1:08:13] you for

[1:08:16] that walk through. Is it 30-year is

[1:08:17] expected on the installments? Like,

[1:08:19] basically, the pid would be

[1:08:22] paid down in 30

[1:08:25] years?

[1:08:26] >> yes. >> based

[1:08:28] on this current

[1:08:30] preliminary but 3500? Per unit? Estimated?

[1:08:31] >>

[1:08:32] that is correct. And that

[1:08:33] is consistent with most of the pids that

[1:08:34] you see throughout the

[1:08:37] state

[1:08:40] of texas. That 30 year term.

[1:08:41] >> that question

[1:08:42] and that question

[1:08:43] for my key to finalizing my understanding

[1:08:44] of the pid. You

[1:08:46] have gotten a lot of feedback already. I

[1:08:49] will sum mine up by saying

[1:08:51] some agreement and just caution. But

[1:08:55] broadly, I

[1:08:58] think what really is key is what y'all came

[1:09:00] back with based on the feedback you

[1:09:02] got. So, you know, you had

[1:09:05] it on I think the

[1:09:08] second

[1:09:09] slide. Reduction in units. Reduction

[1:09:11] in height. Going to

[1:09:14] for sale

[1:09:17] from rental. The

[1:09:20] density. Impervious

[1:09:22] cover. Drive throughs, open space. While

[1:09:25] keeping some of the signature buildings. It

[1:09:26] is so obviously

[1:09:28] key or we made it key is keeping some

[1:09:29] of

[1:09:32] these signature trees in

[1:09:33] the environment? Terms of just the

[1:09:35] heritage aspect of

[1:09:37] that project. And what's around that

[1:09:40] house that is there today. The point

[1:09:41] is that

[1:09:43] grove, if you will. Just a lot of

[1:09:47] things I think y'all came

[1:09:48] back with. Which is good. I want to

[1:09:50] see the retail number

[1:09:52] go up. I understand the pressures. But

[1:09:53] if it is workshop and

[1:09:56] you are looking

[1:09:57] for that feedback, that is one that

[1:09:59] is I think you have made

[1:10:02] a lot of good moves. That

[1:10:05] retail portion is important

[1:10:08] to us. To see it go down

[1:10:10] that much is tough. But I understand

[1:10:14] where you are at. The pid, I

[1:10:17] can generally see and get

[1:10:20] behind. It is

[1:10:23] super tight

[1:10:29] on that three cents.

[1:10:32] just being at 299 is right

[1:10:34] up against and y'all are aware of

[1:10:35] that. I'm not telling

[1:10:38] you anything you don't know. It is

[1:10:41] tight. And our pid policy is

[1:10:44] a

[1:10:46] pretty bright line there. So, I think

[1:10:50] some

[1:10:51] of the cautioner you heard. That makes

[1:10:53] it sound like motions are happening

[1:10:54] when

[1:10:56] I second

[1:10:59] it. I will

[1:11:01] echo. Some of the caution. We are

[1:11:02] not interested in

[1:11:03] moving that policy number. Just know

[1:11:05] that is where we

[1:11:06] are at. And so, y'all are up against

[1:11:08] it but came back with

[1:11:11] a lot of the changes that

[1:11:14] you heard feedback on. So, as far

[1:11:16] as workshop, I think that those are

[1:11:17] some of

[1:11:18] my notes. I would appreciate a bunch

[1:11:20] of those moves working

[1:11:23] to make something

[1:11:25] that still matches our tmnp. And,

[1:11:26] our master plan. And a

[1:11:29] lot of the responses you got in

[1:11:30] the original design. While coming

[1:11:32] back

[1:11:33] with something. So yeah. Thanks.

[1:11:34] >>

[1:11:35] all right. I appreciate that. And

[1:11:36] to that,

[1:11:38] we wanted to keep a close eye on that

[1:11:41] line. And I think as you

[1:11:43] mentioned, the pid rate overall as

[1:11:44] a line,

[1:11:47] we are looking at that $3,500 as well

[1:11:50] as the pid rate and looking at communities

[1:11:53] in and around buda as well to make

[1:11:54] sure

[1:11:56] that we are not boxing ourselves

[1:11:59] out from a competitive standpoint. We

[1:12:01] wanted to make sure we were competitive

[1:12:02] with other

[1:12:03] project ins the area. The other thing

[1:12:05] we wanted to look at as we

[1:12:07] are doing this and coming back. I

[1:12:08] would like

[1:12:10] to just kind of reiterate item is

[1:12:11] we are voluntarily

[1:12:14] annexing the property

[1:12:17] into the

[1:12:20] city to bring property tax revenues

[1:12:22] into the city of buda. We wanted to

[1:12:23] keep that rate where

[1:12:26] it is without having to request

[1:12:27] any tax increment reinvestment zones. We

[1:12:29] didn't want the city to have to

[1:12:32] participate to

[1:12:34] buy that down further. So we were

[1:12:35] trying to hit a

[1:12:38] spot

[1:12:41] we thought was competitive

[1:12:44] in the mark without

[1:12:47] requesting any city assistance. We

[1:12:49] are trying to juggle all of those

[1:12:50] while having

[1:12:51] a project we can produce. It doesn't

[1:12:53] do to set a rate where we can't

[1:12:56] sell the units so we are being very

[1:12:57] careful with

[1:12:58] that as well. So thank you for bringing

[1:12:59] that up and

[1:13:02] I appreciate your comments. Thank

[1:13:04] you.

[1:13:05] >> certainly. And got notes.

[1:13:06] there is not just our cap

[1:13:08] but

[1:13:13] the markets.

[1:13:14] >> exactly. >> acceptability. Good notes. Very helpful. Thanks.

[1:13:17] >>

[1:13:21] looking left and

[1:13:24] right. Anyone else? Ms.

[1:13:25] davis?

[1:13:26] >> I will just add being on

[1:13:27] here when

[1:13:29] we saw the original plans, very much

[1:13:33] what everyone has said. It is

[1:13:36] a very

[1:13:39] different look

[1:13:41] from original. Pictures we saw while

[1:13:42] I

[1:13:45] appreciate the

[1:13:46] reduction and density. Not excited

[1:13:51] about the

[1:13:52] retail space. And while the market

[1:13:54] will do

[1:13:57] what

[1:14:00] it

[1:14:02] is going to do, we didn't quite understand

[1:14:03] what

[1:14:05] they bought into. They got approved. And,

[1:14:06] they

[1:14:09] started

[1:14:12] seeing

[1:14:15] the bills come in. Similar

[1:14:18] to what the councilwoman stated, being

[1:14:21] careful about the

[1:14:24] product

[1:14:27] we put out there. From a pit

[1:14:29] standpoint, it has already been said. I

[1:14:30] don't know what the

[1:14:33] wow factor is for us to go

[1:14:34] down this path. The infrastructure

[1:14:36] is

[1:14:39] fantastic. That

[1:14:41] would come anyway eventually. I'm

[1:14:42] just real

[1:14:44] neutral on this right now. I just

[1:14:48] wanted to get that feedback

[1:14:51] to you. Thank you.

[1:14:52] >> well, this is

[1:14:53] a workshop so there will be no action

[1:14:54] taken this evening but

[1:14:57] we bounced around a bunch of

[1:15:00] feedback and concepts back

[1:15:03] with you. This item is heavy

[1:15:06] on the pid piece of it. Most of

[1:15:08] my questions are on the planned development

[1:15:09] side

[1:15:12] as well as the details of what are

[1:15:13] you

[1:15:15] asking for as far as

[1:15:21] mitigation on other things?

[1:15:23] that comes with more vetting out the

[1:15:24] process. As far as

[1:15:26] the pid, we talked about that one

[1:15:27] quite a bit. We

[1:15:30] have

[1:15:33] been through a few now. But we did

[1:15:35] voice our concerns about the viability. And

[1:15:36] that is

[1:15:39] the developers, that's your problem

[1:15:40] to sell them. But we are just doing

[1:15:42] the math and trying to

[1:15:45] figure out it is going to

[1:15:48] be a big murder

[1:15:49] on that individual homeowner. And

[1:15:51] fast forward

[1:15:52] a couple of years, they come and find

[1:15:54] us and ask why their

[1:15:56] taxes are so high. Because you bought

[1:15:57] into a

[1:16:00] pid. What's a pid? We have those conversations. And

[1:16:03] those are real conversations

[1:16:06] I

[1:16:09] am expecting to happen. I do appreciate

[1:16:12] the

[1:16:15] changes

[1:16:20] that have been made. There has been

[1:16:21] some

[1:16:24] significant movement

[1:16:27] toward what you listened. We listened

[1:16:29] to the complaints and the input from

[1:16:30] us

[1:16:33] and the public. And you put yourself

[1:16:34] out

[1:16:36] there. I'm looking to see

[1:16:39] how

[1:16:41] the neighborhood meetings go. Because

[1:16:42] I will get feedback from those as

[1:16:43] well. I appreciate you guys putting

[1:16:45] yourself out there and getting

[1:16:47] in front of the tomatoes in some cases and taking it.

[1:16:54] more of

[1:16:57] my

[1:16:59] questions are that financial page. If

[1:17:00] you would flip back to the

[1:17:03] one we are trying to expand. I hate

[1:17:04] to use

[1:17:06] the

[1:17:08] word color of money. But, in this

[1:17:09] role together,

[1:17:12] so I can see that the wet utility

[1:17:15] line, you are pulling the water

[1:17:17] and the sewer from where elliot had stopped

[1:17:18] on

[1:17:21] the west

[1:17:24] side. Pulling

[1:17:26] it under the freeway. That is absolutely something

[1:17:27] that we should help you

[1:17:30] with. I

[1:17:36] get that is infrastructure.

[1:17:42] it is the bottom

[1:17:45] section of that that gets fuzzy. What

[1:17:47] is funded by the pid and what is funded

[1:17:48] by you as a

[1:17:51] developer. And so when we

[1:17:54] have this conversation, going forward,

[1:17:55] it

[1:17:56] would be beneficial to look at where

[1:17:58] that is being funded at

[1:18:00] least in your mind for conversations. I

[1:18:01] understand

[1:18:02] that it is all dollars and accounts

[1:18:04] and all

[1:18:07] of those things. But I don't

[1:18:10] think

[1:18:13] that

[1:18:16] pid should pay

[1:18:19] for

[1:18:20] excavation and grating. There are

[1:18:21] details in that bottom section I would

[1:18:22] like to see

[1:18:24] what part of our seven is going into

[1:18:25] that

[1:18:27] and what part of your eight goes into

[1:18:28] that. That is not clear the

[1:18:29] way that is presented right now.

[1:18:30] >>

[1:18:31] mr.

[1:18:33] mayor, we have that. And, weed ad

[1:18:37] that to the presentation

[1:18:38] after we submitted the slides. It

[1:18:40] just

[1:18:43] didn't make it

[1:18:46] into tonight. I have it right here.

[1:18:47] >>

[1:18:49] this was a workshop. I

[1:18:52] am

[1:18:55] glad

[1:18:58] you have that answer. I

[1:19:01] said this from

[1:19:02] the very beginning. Through the projects

[1:19:04] we have on coal springs. The

[1:19:07] bridge on coal springs. All

[1:19:10] of those

[1:19:13] things are creating the avenue

[1:19:16] to pull it

[1:19:19] across 1626 which

[1:19:20] would rejuvenate, accelerate this whole

[1:19:22] area. And the

[1:19:25] water loop

[1:19:28] doing the same thing. What you are

[1:19:31] offering I don't take lightly, I appreciate the

[1:19:32] infrastructure you are bringing to

[1:19:34] the area. It is not four stories,

[1:19:37] 600 units

[1:19:40] that

[1:19:46] we were looking at. The

[1:19:49] first time

[1:19:51] around. It seemed heavy. I would like

[1:19:52] to understand

[1:19:53] it a little more. As to what goes

[1:19:55] in the pid and

[1:19:58] you

[1:20:01] guys. In

[1:20:07] your mind at least.

[1:20:10] what is impact fee items that could

[1:20:13] be

[1:20:19] and should be used. You came

[1:20:22] to this

[1:20:25] meeting with a list of list

[1:20:28] of wishes and goals. Do you

[1:20:31] need something

[1:20:33] else from us?

[1:20:34] >> I think there is

[1:20:35] just rolling your sleeves up

[1:20:37] to work on it. And we had a

[1:20:40] call with y'all, you have a pid consultant. We

[1:20:43] had patrick. A call last week to start

[1:20:44] that

[1:20:46] dialogue. There is probably

[1:20:49] a little more

[1:20:52] financial

[1:20:55] engineering to get that

[1:20:57] right. There will be a little more

[1:20:58] work for you all to tease that

[1:21:01] out to optimize that and

[1:21:04] get it

[1:21:06] where it should be. So one request,

[1:21:07] we will get

[1:21:10] the pid right. The other one will

[1:21:12] be, we understand the comments about

[1:21:13] what we had showed y'all

[1:21:16] a few years ago right? And I think

[1:21:18] we have had this cross to bear since

[1:21:19] then. And we are

[1:21:22] trying to do good work

[1:21:25] to bring

[1:21:28] back a good

[1:21:31] project. Nobody can tell

[1:21:34] us

[1:21:40] what it will be.

[1:21:49] nobody is elsing us if you do it

[1:21:51] in this buildings, it will work. Even

[1:21:52] if we are following the

[1:21:54] corridor study and the comprehensive

[1:21:55] plan. So

[1:21:58] it would

[1:22:00] be good to get, and I'm not asking

[1:22:01] y'all to do that here. I would

[1:22:03] be good to get a little more guidance

[1:22:04] on okay, we

[1:22:07] like this. If you

[1:22:10] guys can change

[1:22:12] that. It will work. We do have some

[1:22:13] modifications but we

[1:22:16] have cut the modifications. We had over

[1:22:17] 30

[1:22:18] modifications in the other project. Because

[1:22:20] it was

[1:22:23] apartments

[1:22:24] and more complicated project. If question

[1:22:26] can look at it and live

[1:22:29] with it, we cut

[1:22:32] it

[1:22:35] out as a

[1:22:36] modification. What you want the buildings to

[1:22:38] look

[1:22:44] like and what works.

[1:22:45] >> that's

[1:22:46] what I was talking about. This is

[1:22:47] more of

[1:22:49] a financial discussion. But that is

[1:22:50] a

[1:22:52] question that I have is exactly that. If

[1:22:53] it

[1:22:56] is a planned development,

[1:22:59] it has a list of the wants and tweaks. If

[1:23:00] you walked in and said I will build

[1:23:02] everything according

[1:23:05] to your zoning book and

[1:23:07] everything is fine, I think the road

[1:23:08] sizes and

[1:23:09] the density and the driveway sizes

[1:23:11] and some of

[1:23:13] that other stuff plays into a little

[1:23:14] bit. But that is further

[1:23:17] in this conversation than

[1:23:20] this

[1:23:23] evening is planned for.

[1:23:24] >> we have

[1:23:26] a couple of tweak to

[1:23:32] the town home roads.

[1:23:41] it

[1:23:43] is 100% stone. And you will see this

[1:23:44] building for example. As

[1:23:46] stone, but also some wood. And some

[1:23:47] metal

[1:23:48] panels. So we ask for some flexibility

[1:23:50] in design

[1:23:53] on that. But it is really

[1:23:54] not a dramatic modification we were

[1:23:56] looking for before.

[1:23:57] >>

[1:23:58] that is good to know. This is all

[1:23:59] a workshop. I'm looking

[1:24:02] left

[1:24:05] and

[1:24:10] right. See if anyone else.

[1:24:11] >> the

[1:24:12] applicant will be going

[1:24:14] back and forth through zoning commission

[1:24:15] for their pid. That would be coming

[1:24:17] back at some point in

[1:24:20] the next few months. They have

[1:24:22] not officially applied for a pid yet. So

[1:24:26] we have had a

[1:24:28] few conversations with them with our

[1:24:29] pid consultant who has not been

[1:24:31] engaged to start a pid review with

[1:24:32] them. I believe that is

[1:24:33] happening very soon. They want him

[1:24:35] to get the pulse and temperature

[1:24:38] from

[1:24:41] city council before doing that. If

[1:24:43] city council is open to the idea of

[1:24:44] exploring pid more, it will be

[1:24:47] to

[1:24:49] make the pid application. We partner

[1:24:53] or contract with

[1:24:55] p3 works. P3 works will come in along

[1:24:56] with our financial

[1:24:58] advisers and that entire team. And

[1:24:59] they will do

[1:25:02] a

[1:25:04] really deep analysis of this pid and make

[1:25:05] sure

[1:25:08] it

[1:25:09] will pay for itself. And, that built

[1:25:11] in look

[1:25:12] at the bonds themselves, and start

[1:25:14] setting that

[1:25:17] up for success. So that

[1:25:20] if council if and when the

[1:25:23] pid comes to city council,

[1:25:26] you'll have all that information

[1:25:29] to make an informed decision. The concepts

[1:25:32] of the public

[1:25:34] cost and infrastructure presented

[1:25:35] and get the temperature check on whether

[1:25:38] a pid would be supported. That

[1:25:41] would

[1:25:44] be the next steps.

[1:25:50] it was june of

[1:25:53] last year, when count till previous

[1:25:55] took action on this project. And the

[1:25:56] developer

[1:25:59] is hoping and anticipateing to

[1:26:02] have direction to

[1:26:05] move forward with the

[1:26:08] development.

[1:26:09] >> thank you for

[1:26:13] the clarification. More questions, comments? Workshop? Anything

[1:26:17] else? Steven, thank

[1:26:19] you.

[1:26:20] >> thanks everybody. Appreciate it.

[1:26:23] >> that

[1:26:26] was

[1:26:29] our workshop. One

[1:26:31] presentation. J1. Presentation on

[1:26:32] state

[1:26:34] highway 45 gap study findings. Ms.

[1:26:35] kennedy again.

[1:26:36] >> this item

[1:26:39] is an update on the findings

[1:26:42] of the 45

[1:26:45] gap study. That the city

[1:26:46] supported. With bond dollars. I am

[1:26:48] here to introduce aaron

[1:26:51] gonzalez

[1:26:54] to give the

[1:26:56] presentation.

[1:26:57] >> thank you very much. Good

[1:26:58] evening. My name is erin gonzalez,

[1:27:00] I'm with bge. I

[1:27:03] serve as the gec

[1:27:04] project manager representing both

[1:27:06] hayes county and the city

[1:27:07] of buda.

[1:27:08] >> : overseeing the works

[1:27:11] being done by the design team. We

[1:27:12] were here

[1:27:15] to give you an update to

[1:27:18] the

[1:27:21] work we were doing. We

[1:27:23] have try today come back, at this

[1:27:25] time, I will hand it over to paul who

[1:27:27] will give you

[1:27:28] an update on those items. Ly come

[1:27:30] back and we will talk through

[1:27:33] next steps at the end. And open

[1:27:39] it up for questions.

[1:27:40] >>

[1:27:42] thank you erin. I

[1:27:45] was part

[1:27:48] of the study team. We

[1:27:51] did

[1:27:54] want the

[1:27:55] presentation last january. The purpose of

[1:27:57] the

[1:28:00] study

[1:28:03] began

[1:28:06] in

[1:28:12] fall of 2022. Local partners,

[1:28:14] we are working in collaboration to

[1:28:15] develop a solution that

[1:28:17] works well for the area and considers

[1:28:18] the

[1:28:21] interesting concerns of all

[1:28:24] involved. The goals of the

[1:28:26] study, do things in a productive and

[1:28:27] clear way. We

[1:28:30] collected input from wide range

[1:28:32] of stake holders that identify conceptual

[1:28:33] route

[1:28:35] options and work to minimize impacts

[1:28:36] on current and

[1:28:38] future development. We also wanted

[1:28:39] to identify strategies to

[1:28:41] protect the environment and follow

[1:28:42] best practices for doing so.

[1:28:48] consistent with that, the study we

[1:28:50] met with staff from several cities

[1:28:51] and surrounding agencies,

[1:28:54] we

[1:28:57] had

[1:29:00] three meetings with staff. We had

[1:29:02] met with various property owners. Had

[1:29:03] a total

[1:29:06] of 26 of those meetings. We

[1:29:08] conducted three open houses, june

[1:29:09] and december of

[1:29:12] 2023. And

[1:29:15] then in

[1:29:18] august of 2024. What we

[1:29:19] learned from that, this was about

[1:29:21] a year on this

[1:29:23] map. It is not 100% up to date. What

[1:29:24] we learned during

[1:29:27] that process from the landowners

[1:29:29] is that the yellow hatched areas are

[1:29:30] areas

[1:29:33] that are planned

[1:29:36] to be developed. That included nearly

[1:29:37] 900

[1:29:38] acres. 27% of the study area was planned

[1:29:39] for development

[1:29:42] as of that

[1:29:43] time. So, that underscores the need

[1:29:44] to develop what the infrastuckture

[1:29:45] needs

[1:29:48] will be for this

[1:29:50] area as that development continues. The

[1:29:51] first open

[1:29:54] house is conducted june of 2023 at

[1:29:56] sunfield station. We had both an in-person

[1:29:57] open

[1:30:00] house and a virtual online one. We

[1:30:01] had

[1:30:03] more than 60

[1:30:06] people

[1:30:09] in the in-person one. We had 615

[1:30:12] unique views

[1:30:14] on the website. We responded to all

[1:30:15] the

[1:30:16] comments received and summarized that

[1:30:18] in a pronounced summary report that

[1:30:21] included a matrix of all those comment

[1:30:22] responses. That

[1:30:24] was posted on

[1:30:27] the website. In addition to that,

[1:30:28] we have

[1:30:30] large maps we put input on

[1:30:33] the public. I

[1:30:36] will

[1:30:39] show

[1:30:41] you those here. The in-person open

[1:30:42] house. They

[1:30:45] are kind of magenta shading. What

[1:30:48] we

[1:30:51] got from the

[1:30:53] in-person. We took all the comments,

[1:30:54] we put

[1:30:57] them together. Created one, all inclusive

[1:30:58] map

[1:31:03] of all the

[1:31:05] suggestions. What you see, aggregated

[1:31:06] those. Almost all of

[1:31:07] them reflected similar concept. You

[1:31:09] see in the light blue. One exception

[1:31:12] was in the red. We got one

[1:31:15] suggestion for a more northerly route. All

[1:31:16] other

[1:31:18] suggestions were kind of

[1:31:21] had a similar concept there toward

[1:31:22] the southern

[1:31:24] or central part of the study

[1:31:27] area. After that, we worked to apply

[1:31:30] engineering standards to these suggestions

[1:31:31] and develop

[1:31:34] actual routes that we

[1:31:37] could apply our analysis

[1:31:39] to. So what you see here is those

[1:31:40] route

[1:31:43] suggestions with

[1:31:47] the engineering criteria applied.

[1:31:55] would

[1:31:57] have had three residential displacements. Also

[1:31:58] the

[1:31:59] engineering technical side of that

[1:32:01] was less desirable mainly

[1:32:02] because it crossed, as you can see

[1:32:04] there,

[1:32:07] toward the

[1:32:10] middle of the large bend. And

[1:32:11] crossed large floodplain areas in

[1:32:13] onion and garlic creeks. As

[1:32:16] an effort to minimize the

[1:32:17] impacts, we modified that red alignment to

[1:32:19] what

[1:32:22] you see in the yellow. That

[1:32:25] removed

[1:32:28] the crossing of the

[1:32:30] bend. The crossing of the floodplains

[1:32:31] for

[1:32:33] the eastern side there. The blue route

[1:32:35] represented all the other suggestions. That

[1:32:37] route had no displacements as of

[1:32:40] the

[1:32:46] time of the study.

[1:32:49] avoided that

[1:32:52] bend in little bear creek.

[1:32:55] from that

[1:32:58] analysis, we recommended

[1:33:01] for

[1:33:04] further study, in the blue. That was presented

[1:33:07] at the second open house

[1:33:10] in december. As of that time, had

[1:33:13] no displacements. Had

[1:33:14] that more desirable engineering perspective

[1:33:19] and less

[1:33:20] of that floodplain impact. And then

[1:33:22] for those reasons

[1:33:23] we eliminated from further consideration

[1:33:28] in

[1:33:31] black those northern routes.

[1:33:33] the preliminary recommendation, it was

[1:33:34] not

[1:33:37] finalized at this time. And

[1:33:38] subject to further retirement assumeing

[1:33:40] the project

[1:33:42] would continue into future phases. Along that

[1:33:43] line, you see

[1:33:46] we looked at a couple of

[1:33:49] different options, what that

[1:33:52] configuration

[1:33:55] would look like. Consistent with

[1:33:57] what it looks like. We assume the

[1:33:58] gap project

[1:34:00] would be controlled access. Which

[1:34:01] means no

[1:34:04] direct driveways or cross

[1:34:07] streets

[1:34:10] crossing the lanes. And we looked

[1:34:11] at

[1:34:12] two options. One with and one without

[1:34:13] frontage roads and

[1:34:16] the

[1:34:18] final concept could include some frontage

[1:34:19] roads

[1:34:22] or not. Also

[1:34:25] note,

[1:34:28] the shared use path

[1:34:29] which would accommodate the users

[1:34:31] along the route. So, with these

[1:34:34] concept, we created two right away

[1:34:36] footprints. One would be about 250

[1:34:37] feet ride. At the

[1:34:38] top there. Without frontage roads. And

[1:34:40] if you had the frontage

[1:34:43] roads that

[1:34:46] was about a 400-foot wide. So,

[1:34:48] we took those footprints. Applied

[1:34:49] some

[1:34:51] criteria to those. And then looked

[1:34:55] at what the evaluation of those would

[1:34:58] be. The table here shows impacts

[1:35:01] from the two scenarios. Would

[1:35:04] result again in no

[1:35:07] residential or commercial

[1:35:09] displacements. Also, no impacts were

[1:35:10] being anticipated

[1:35:12] to facilities like schools, hospitals,

[1:35:13] emergency services,

[1:35:16] dedicated parkland cemeteries, short

[1:35:19] properties, oil gas wells

[1:35:22] or other

[1:35:28] hazardous material site sites.

[1:35:33] we had an in-person component there. We

[1:35:34] had the

[1:35:37] online option as well. We

[1:35:40] had a few

[1:35:43] more

[1:35:46] attendees to that one. 797 unique

[1:35:48] views on the website. It is as with

[1:35:49] the first open house,

[1:35:52] we

[1:35:55] got all

[1:35:58] those

[1:36:01] comments responded no those. Coming

[1:36:04] out of

[1:36:07] that second open house,

[1:36:08] we provided refinements. What you

[1:36:10] see in

[1:36:13] blue there

[1:36:16] is the preliminary route. We refine

[1:36:19] that to the

[1:36:22] pink shading. One was to avoid utilities

[1:36:24] out there. The transmission line more

[1:36:25] toward the western side

[1:36:28] of the study area. And then, we also

[1:36:29] aligned the route with the right of

[1:36:31] way that was being used for the

[1:36:34] per year

[1:36:37] road extension

[1:36:40] on the

[1:36:43] east end. With no anticipated

[1:36:46] displacementss

[1:36:49] a

[1:36:52] of that time. We took

[1:36:55] that corridor. Applied more engineering

[1:36:57] to that. Created an access assessment

[1:36:58] to look at how

[1:37:01] would users access that facility. First,

[1:37:02] we

[1:37:04] started with the changes at each end of

[1:37:05] the route

[1:37:08] one on the

[1:37:11] west you see there. Sh45

[1:37:13] southwest ends at f.m. 1626. That would

[1:37:14] be an interchange

[1:37:17] and access to the new route. And

[1:37:20] then on the east

[1:37:23] side would align with where sh45

[1:37:24] comes in at I-35. Between those, we

[1:37:26] assessed

[1:37:29] and saw that you could

[1:37:30] have two additional inner changes

[1:37:32] in the middle of the route

[1:37:35] essentially dividing up

[1:37:41] the corridor into one-third.

[1:37:44] full access to

[1:37:46] and from the route. We looked at where

[1:37:50] frontage

[1:37:53] roads could

[1:37:54] be located. Basically, the main lanes

[1:37:58] would connect to existing sh45 on

[1:37:59] the west. And

[1:38:02] sh45

[1:38:05] southeast on

[1:38:08] the east side. At each

[1:38:11] one

[1:38:13] of those intermediate interchanges. Proposed

[1:38:14] development, would be

[1:38:16] needed for the eastern third from

[1:38:17] the interchange just

[1:38:20] east of

[1:38:22] the railroad there. Over to I-35. And

[1:38:23] again,

[1:38:24] that note, these are preliminary subject

[1:38:26] to

[1:38:29] change

[1:38:30] based on future development. As well. Once

[1:38:32] we have

[1:38:35] had that access assessment,

[1:38:38] we

[1:38:41] conducted a traffic study. In

[1:38:43] an origin destination study. We share

[1:38:47] the

[1:38:50] traffic study, they reviewed

[1:38:53] that. The destination

[1:38:56] study what you

[1:38:58] see here, we took data from origin

[1:38:59] and destination

[1:39:02] of trips along

[1:39:05] the sh45 existing corridor. We

[1:39:08] looked at both directions. Where trips

[1:39:09] would begin and end. The origin of

[1:39:11] each trip is shown

[1:39:14] there in blue. And,

[1:39:17] the

[1:39:18] destination is shown in orange. It

[1:39:20] represents a

[1:39:22] higher number of trips. Looked at

[1:39:23] a.m. And p.m. Peaks

[1:39:26] as well as both directions

[1:39:28] along sh45. And, what you may expect,

[1:39:29] the main take away

[1:39:32] there is that there is

[1:39:35] heavy movement in

[1:39:37] the a.m. Period from northern hayes

[1:39:38] county

[1:39:41] and the southern

[1:39:44] mopak area. From south austin

[1:39:47] back into northern hays county. Second

[1:39:50] part of the

[1:39:53] traffic study was conducted. Looked

[1:39:56] at the travel demand model. And evaluated

[1:39:59] that with the

[1:40:02] access

[1:40:05] points

[1:40:08] that you saw before.

[1:40:11] the traffic would

[1:40:13] increase regardless. Improvements

[1:40:14] we

[1:40:16] saw along the road network that would

[1:40:17] result

[1:40:20] in

[1:40:23] building the gap network. In the study

[1:40:25] network. We see reduction in traffic

[1:40:26] volumes

[1:40:29] and increase in speeds on

[1:40:32] most

[1:40:35] of the arterial streets.

[1:40:38] would

[1:40:41] be increased by up to five miles per

[1:40:44] hour by f.m. 967 and robert s

[1:40:46] light boulevard and we see a reduction

[1:40:47] of traffic

[1:40:50] volumes depending on the time

[1:40:53] of day. About a 20 to

[1:40:56] 30% in volumes on robert. Then,

[1:40:59] if you go to f.m. 1626, we

[1:41:01] would see reduction volumes there. Depending

[1:41:02] on time

[1:41:04] of day. 10 and 15% reduction and you

[1:41:05] can see speed

[1:41:06] increases up to 10 miles per hour

[1:41:08] on average during those

[1:41:11] peaks. And then, finally

[1:41:14] on I-35, we saw an increase from the

[1:41:15] model results of travel speeds up to

[1:41:17] about four miles per

[1:41:19] hour. Once you got 45 where you saw

[1:41:20] that traffic

[1:41:23] coming off. 35 and going over

[1:41:26] to what

[1:41:29] would be sh45. So those are the improvements

[1:41:30] we

[1:41:31] saw. A couple of the impacts. Sh45

[1:41:32] the existing route

[1:41:34] to the west would stay at or near

[1:41:38] capacity

[1:41:41] for most

[1:41:44] of the day. And start to

[1:41:47] exceed

[1:41:49] capacity in the p.m. Peak. We see that

[1:41:50] begin to

[1:41:53] use

[1:41:59] all of its compass capacity. Once

[1:42:01] you got north of slaughter we saw

[1:42:02] the effects of the gap

[1:42:04] project go away and not have much notable

[1:42:08] effect of the travel

[1:42:09] speeds. And then, mopac as expected

[1:42:11] already would remain at

[1:42:14] or

[1:42:17] near its design capacity. And

[1:42:19] the other effect we saw, it would

[1:42:20] still have

[1:42:23] some sections

[1:42:26] that are over

[1:42:29] capacity even with

[1:42:31] the project. Between 45 southwest. With

[1:42:35] all that information, we presented

[1:42:36] that at the

[1:42:38] open house about a year ago. Like

[1:42:39] the

[1:42:41] first two we had both the

[1:42:44] in-person meeting and a virtual online,

[1:42:47] we had 70 attendees at

[1:42:50] that in-person open house. 95 comments. And

[1:42:51] 655

[1:42:53] unique

[1:42:56] views on the website. And

[1:42:59] then,

[1:43:02] responded to

[1:43:05] all the comments. The overall findings

[1:43:06] we

[1:43:08] had from the study, a few of those

[1:43:09] included

[1:43:11] the

[1:43:14] project assuming

[1:43:17] that full 400-foot wide right of way foot

[1:43:20] present would require 190

[1:43:23] acres. It would be generally

[1:43:25] supported by the affected property owners. Based

[1:43:26] on our discussions

[1:43:29] with them. And the project would not

[1:43:30] displace

[1:43:32] any existing homes or bids or impact

[1:43:38] parks, recreation areas. And

[1:43:41] incorporate environmental

[1:43:44] best practices and controls. Now I

[1:43:45] will,

[1:43:47] bear with me, I will go back

[1:43:50] to

[1:43:53] one of the maps. I will

[1:43:56] read through

[1:43:59] the bullet

[1:44:02] point. We created a preliminary scheme

[1:44:03] attic design. We are not display tag quite yet. But

[1:44:06] I will show

[1:44:09] you

[1:44:13] on the map here. So you get a visual. But

[1:44:15] a few

[1:44:18] of the things

[1:44:20] included, the connection to the main

[1:44:21] lanes. Great

[1:44:24] separations at that

[1:44:27] intersection

[1:44:30] as well

[1:44:33] as

[1:44:36] across over f.m. 1626. The two

[1:44:37] intermediate interchanges with the

[1:44:39] buda city

[1:44:41] of transportation plan. We had future

[1:44:45] arterial locations again in

[1:44:47] line with master plan. One of those

[1:44:48] arterials would

[1:44:51] remain west

[1:44:54] of the union

[1:44:55] pacific railroad. And one of those would connect

[1:44:57] to

[1:45:00] the

[1:45:02] east of the railroad. Between cullen

[1:45:05] boulevard and hailey's way. The other

[1:45:06] future

[1:45:09] arterial

[1:45:12] that was

[1:45:15] east of the

[1:45:18] railroad the

[1:45:21] connection was for

[1:45:23] that western arterial near cabella's drive. The

[1:45:24] frontage roads

[1:45:27] as I mentioned would

[1:45:30] extend from that

[1:45:33] eastern interchange

[1:45:36] to I-35 to address

[1:45:39] access

[1:45:42] needs for

[1:45:44] the existing development. Then we

[1:45:45] would have the

[1:45:48] sh45 southeast

[1:45:51] connect to the

[1:45:54] main lanes. Finally, we would

[1:45:57] have flyover ramps from

[1:46:00] I-35. We

[1:46:03] developed

[1:46:06] consensual designs allowing

[1:46:09] them in all

[1:46:11] directions between that footprint. With

[1:46:12] that, I will let

[1:46:15] erin

[1:46:21] go through next steps.

[1:46:22] >> so

[1:46:24] currently, what paul mentioned,

[1:46:27] the study

[1:46:30] is complete. The

[1:46:33] reports are complete and

[1:46:36] schematic is final review ready

[1:46:42] to be published. The process

[1:46:44] doesn't stop. We continue to provide

[1:46:46] them information on our lay-outs and

[1:46:48] trying

[1:46:51] to work with them

[1:46:52] on their developments. We are looking to identify

[1:46:57] the

[1:47:00] right of

[1:47:02] way needed. And create documents moving forward but

[1:47:03] that's

[1:47:05] where the scope of our work on this contract ends

[1:47:06] so we

[1:47:08] will be looking for hays county and

[1:47:09] the city overby

[1:47:12] da for any next steps

[1:47:15] on how to

[1:47:18] move forward. But our

[1:47:21] project

[1:47:23] concludes here with the feasibility I

[1:47:24] will open it up for

[1:47:27] questions.

[1:47:28] >>

[1:47:29] you want to go first?

[1:47:30] >> sure. Thank

[1:47:31] you

[1:47:33] very

[1:47:36] much for

[1:47:37] the study. Help me understand if you

[1:47:39] would go

[1:47:41] back to that preliminary access map

[1:47:42] that

[1:47:45] was just up. Okay. So, we are

[1:47:48] at 1327 and 35. And, it looks

[1:47:51] like the roadway is being

[1:47:53] proposed to extend out past 1327. So

[1:47:57] I'm thinking about all

[1:48:00] of the new apartments and homes being built off of

[1:48:03] old san antonio road. There will

[1:48:06] be

[1:48:09] additional

[1:48:12] stuff put back there. That whole makeup

[1:48:15] of the way it looks now in five

[1:48:18] years will

[1:48:24] not be there.

[1:48:25] >> yeah.

[1:48:27] subject to

[1:48:30] change but as the preliminary design, there

[1:48:33] would be no direct

[1:48:35] access to that. So, does it necessarily

[1:48:36] take its consideration. Some

[1:48:39] of the development. But I guess it

[1:48:42] doesn't preclude it or

[1:48:48] doesn't

[1:48:50] do anything negative toward difficult.

[1:48:51] >>

[1:48:52] is

[1:48:54] plan is to go

[1:48:57] up correct?

[1:48:58] >> we had a couple of

[1:49:00] concepts going up above or below without

[1:49:01] showing it to

[1:49:03] you. Probably not going to make

[1:49:06] a lot of sense. It would not cross

[1:49:07] directly

[1:49:09] with old san antonio. The sh45

[1:49:12] lanes would

[1:49:18] be either above or

[1:49:24] below.

[1:49:25] >>

[1:49:26] okay. That would affect the slide

[1:49:27] that you had

[1:49:30] that talked

[1:49:33] about having access roads. You

[1:49:35] are going to stick to the concept

[1:49:36] of it

[1:49:39] being maybe elevated roadway that

[1:49:40] goes above that

[1:49:42] area,

[1:49:45] I could probably get there. If

[1:49:48] you

[1:49:51] are talking in access roads. There's

[1:49:54] a lot in that space. It is super dense

[1:49:55] back

[1:49:57] there right now and it is

[1:50:00] just continuing

[1:50:02] to be built. These feasibility studies

[1:50:03] are

[1:50:06] done

[1:50:07] with current conditions. Hopefully,

[1:50:09] there has been some thought in what

[1:50:10] the

[1:50:12] city of austin is doing. Because,

[1:50:13] they

[1:50:15] are building on every piece of property that

[1:50:16] is back there

[1:50:18] this they can get their hands on. And

[1:50:19] then

[1:50:22] of course, the city of

[1:50:25] buda, we have our school

[1:50:28] down there with buda

[1:50:30] elementary. And you will have potentially heb or some

[1:50:33] other business built off that road. So I

[1:50:36] think when we start thinking about

[1:50:37] going up,

[1:50:40] up

[1:50:41] would be a better choice. Then trying

[1:50:43] to put everybody

[1:50:46] in that same compacted space.

[1:50:49] what we will create

[1:50:51] is another 162-6967.

[1:50:52] >> I'll also

[1:50:55] just

[1:50:57] mention on, we talked about what the

[1:50:58] city

[1:51:01] is doing. The per

[1:51:04] year

[1:51:07] road right of way. This

[1:51:13] fits within that width

[1:51:14] . That will fit in the space that

[1:51:16] is already reserved.

[1:51:17] >> I get

[1:51:19] that it

[1:51:22] will fit. But if you

[1:51:25] drive it, it doesn't fit. They have

[1:51:26] done some improvements. They put a

[1:51:28] bunch of apartments back

[1:51:29] there. They created a light signal

[1:51:31] there but

[1:51:32] again, we are talking about a windy

[1:51:34] two lane road that people

[1:51:37] are used to

[1:51:38] not having large volumes of traffic. And

[1:51:42] anything that happens on 35 pushes everybody

[1:51:43] off

[1:51:46] of old

[1:51:49] san antonio road.

[1:51:50] >> we coordinated

[1:51:52] with some

[1:51:53] of the regional partners. Travis county,

[1:51:55] if

[1:51:58] the

[1:52:01] project were to continue,

[1:52:04] there

[1:52:05] would be additional coordination. What

[1:52:07] is

[1:52:10] the

[1:52:11] impact from traffic being added and

[1:52:13] just working with them

[1:52:15] on how to best facilitate.

[1:52:16] >> great

[1:52:17] idea. We need to make sure

[1:52:18] they are on board with this. Because

[1:52:19] if

[1:52:22] they have a lot of impact

[1:52:25] on what

[1:52:28] moves forward because of what

[1:52:31] they are already doing to

[1:52:34] date. I appreciate it.

[1:52:35] >> ms.

[1:52:37] davidson.

[1:52:38] >> a lot

[1:52:39] of information. I know you guys have

[1:52:40] spent a lot of time on

[1:52:43] this. Could you go

[1:52:46] to the a.m. P.m. Flow? I

[1:52:49] want to make sure

[1:52:52] I'm understanding.

[1:52:53] >> the

[1:52:55] origin destination study?

[1:52:56] >> yes. Thank

[1:52:59] you. So explain this to me please. Specifically

[1:53:01] I want

[1:53:03] to know how this affects buda. Our

[1:53:07] traffic coming

[1:53:08] through the downtown.

[1:53:09] >> it is not

[1:53:10] so much showing what the effect of

[1:53:13] the project will be. But

[1:53:16] what the current trips, how

[1:53:19] they are organized

[1:53:22] I should say. The

[1:53:24] darker shades in blue are where trips are coming

[1:53:25] from. You can see

[1:53:27] in the a.m. Peak. You can see a lot

[1:53:28] of trips coming

[1:53:30] from areas just north of buda. You

[1:53:31] can

[1:53:33] see the dark blue there. And then

[1:53:34] those trips, a

[1:53:37] lot of them end up in south austin

[1:53:38] there along

[1:53:40] mopac and oak hill area. That is

[1:53:43] really

[1:53:46] what this

[1:53:49] is

[1:53:51] showing is how people are currently

[1:53:52] moving about the area. Eastbound,

[1:53:54] you don't see quite as many of the

[1:53:55] heavy shades because there

[1:53:57] are not quite as many trips going

[1:53:58] on. You flip it on

[1:54:01] the p.m., you see more

[1:54:04] of that heavy trips originating from

[1:54:07] that

[1:54:08] oak hill area. South austin. Coming

[1:54:10] back in

[1:54:13] orange

[1:54:16] on the

[1:54:19] right there. The

[1:54:22] orange darker shades

[1:54:25] is where they

[1:54:27] are getting into buda. You see light

[1:54:28] central shadeing

[1:54:30] in buda in the p.m. It is less in

[1:54:31] other areas. So what

[1:54:34] we are seeing is maybe not quite

[1:54:37] as

[1:54:40] many

[1:54:43] people in the sh45,

[1:54:45] it is central to the study area. It

[1:54:46] is a

[1:54:49] road that as

[1:54:52] proposed, the

[1:54:53] gap would connect to we thought it was

[1:54:55] a good way to look at

[1:54:58] who may use this facility and

[1:55:01] how it could

[1:55:02] benefit the community.

[1:55:03] >> just to

[1:55:04] add to that, origin destination is

[1:55:05] important to understand

[1:55:06] where people are coming from and going. All

[1:55:07] of

[1:55:10] you probably have a

[1:55:13] pretty good idea because

[1:55:16] they

[1:55:18] are your constituents. But when a road doesn't

[1:55:19] exist like this one today

[1:55:22] it is harder to model the

[1:55:23] traffic without completely understanding

[1:55:25] where everyone is comeing from and

[1:55:26] going to. The origin destination helps

[1:55:28] us to understand

[1:55:31] that and the next

[1:55:34] steps

[1:55:36] are the traffic results. Which you

[1:55:37] might be asking how

[1:55:40] will this impact. Why don't

[1:55:43] we

[1:55:46] go to that results?

[1:55:47] >> we

[1:55:49] have

[1:55:52] the

[1:55:54] bullets here. The traffic report. The

[1:55:55] full tables

[1:55:58] and maps and everything. It

[1:56:01] may be hard to fathom it more

[1:56:03] without seeing some visuals. But I

[1:56:04] guess, you

[1:56:06] have a question specifically on it?

[1:56:07] >>

[1:56:08] I guess to summarize here, we

[1:56:10] are seeing a lot of the

[1:56:12] traffic reduction in the arterial

[1:56:13] roads

[1:56:16] and the smaller neighborhood roads

[1:56:19] by making this connection. We'll see

[1:56:22] more folks that are

[1:56:25] making the

[1:56:28] trip in the

[1:56:31] morning or the

[1:56:32] evening. Using smaller roads, arterials

[1:56:34] and local roads.

[1:56:35] >> I guess that is kind

[1:56:37] of where I'm getting at

[1:56:40] understanding

[1:56:42] the east west traveling. The way it

[1:56:43] looks, we talk

[1:56:46] about okay, the

[1:56:49] south

[1:56:53] traffic

[1:56:54] is pushing through. It is east buda. And

[1:56:56] sun field

[1:56:58] area pushing through our downtown

[1:56:59] and get to

[1:57:00] pilpac in the mornings. Same thing

[1:57:01] coming home. There is no other alternative

[1:57:02] unless

[1:57:04] you are going to try to come down

[1:57:05] 35,

[1:57:06] cut through any of those things. Whatever

[1:57:11] you

[1:57:14] want

[1:57:17] to do with

[1:57:18] that. This study reflects that east

[1:57:20] west

[1:57:23] main street traffic

[1:57:26] being

[1:57:29] moved faster. Not just the 1626

[1:57:32] to robert

[1:57:35] s. Light. While still a

[1:57:37] big problem.

[1:57:38] >> maybe. >> is east

[1:57:41] buda the problem

[1:57:44] also? Moving

[1:57:47] west? And west back to east?

[1:57:48] >>

[1:57:49] make sure I understand the question. Talking

[1:57:53] about buda east of

[1:57:55] 35. Is that an issue and is this addressing that

[1:57:56] issue?

[1:57:57] >>

[1:57:59] could it?

[1:58:00] >>

[1:58:01] could it address that issue?

[1:58:02] >> a

[1:58:03] lot of reasons

[1:58:05] we look at that destination. Are

[1:58:07] there currently people using sh-45

[1:58:08] southwest

[1:58:11] from the areas? You can see

[1:58:13] some light shading there. East of

[1:58:14] buda. Not

[1:58:17] as much as west. Sorry, east of

[1:58:19] 35. Not as much west of 35. You can

[1:58:23] see

[1:58:26] a

[1:58:28] little bit more there. In those peak.

[1:58:29] >>

[1:58:32] if you look

[1:58:35] at

[1:58:38] the left top figure.

[1:58:44] there are a number of vehicles that

[1:58:46] are traveling from that area over

[1:58:47] to the orange

[1:58:48] area. That is where they are headed. And

[1:58:50] that's

[1:58:53] the traffic that you are seeing

[1:58:54] through downtown and other connections

[1:58:56] to get them

[1:58:58] to that orange area. And so, by making

[1:59:00] this connection with state highway

[1:59:02] 45

[1:59:05] at the gap, it aleves that

[1:59:07] traffic. Some of that traffic. It

[1:59:09] reduces the capacity on those existing

[1:59:12] roads and increases the speeds on

[1:59:13] those existing roads.

[1:59:14] >> the first

[1:59:15] part

[1:59:16] is there a need. I think the second

[1:59:17] part

[1:59:20] is

[1:59:21] could this project help that? The

[1:59:26] key to that

[1:59:29] is the 35 interchange. People

[1:59:31] coming on 35 could take directly to

[1:59:32] the gap project without

[1:59:35] having to get on the local access

[1:59:36] roads.

[1:59:37] >>

[1:59:38] right. And if they are willing to pay

[1:59:39] a toll fee.

[1:59:40] >> thank you

[1:59:41] very

[1:59:47] much. That was very helpful.

[1:59:49] >> more questions? Mr. Bowles? >>

[1:59:51] similar question. I drive that corridor. I

[1:59:53] drive very frequently and it

[1:59:55] currently backs up on the 45 now at

[1:59:56] peak

[1:59:59] times

[2:00:05] in the mornings specifically.

[2:00:11] where is that in bullet two

[2:00:12] on the bottom paragraph there where

[2:00:14] you will see a slight increase

[2:00:16] in traffic where there need to be

[2:00:17] south of slaughter? Is

[2:00:20] that what that is

[2:00:23] saying? By

[2:00:29] having the new gap?

[2:00:35] >>

[2:00:38] the new bridges where the

[2:00:41] new mopac lanes go. The lanes that

[2:00:44] are two lanes each direction.

[2:00:50] giving up, mostly to

[2:00:52] slaughter. That is where they are

[2:00:53] destined for

[2:00:56] some of those areas. You see

[2:00:59] folks traveling on

[2:01:02] there. Taking exits

[2:01:05] to slaughter and to win

[2:01:06] cannon. People are getting to, folks

[2:01:08] that

[2:01:10] have beened added to the network are

[2:01:11] starting to exit and

[2:01:13] get where they are going to go.

[2:01:14] >>

[2:01:15] I guess,

[2:01:16] by tying in the 35, I imagine there

[2:01:17] is some amount of traffic

[2:01:20] that is

[2:01:23] not currently coming through from

[2:01:25] sun field or other places. I believe we

[2:01:29] would get some

[2:01:31] 18 wheelers which would make mopac

[2:01:32] more fun but I imagine that

[2:01:34] would back up. If it is already backing

[2:01:38] up where

[2:01:41] the valor school is. The

[2:01:44] 45 turning into the mopac section. By

[2:01:45] adding more

[2:01:47] capacity off of 35 and everything,

[2:01:48] I imagine that section there would

[2:01:50] back up as well. I guess

[2:01:53] I

[2:01:55] didn't see that specifically here. Maybe

[2:01:56] I'm missing

[2:01:58] it.

[2:01:59] >> getting a little more to the

[2:02:00] nuance

[2:02:02] on the travel demand model, that

[2:02:04] is what is the basis for these results. One

[2:02:05] thing we

[2:02:08] didn't note is that does

[2:02:11] assume certain other projects

[2:02:14] will happen by the study year which

[2:02:15] was

[2:02:16] 2045. Study year we were working under

[2:02:20] when

[2:02:23] this study was done. So that does assume

[2:02:24] the

[2:02:26] additional lanes would be

[2:02:28] added by that time. That handle traffic,

[2:02:29] that will

[2:02:30] increase regardless of whether the

[2:02:32] 45 gap were built or

[2:02:35] not. But

[2:02:38] also increases the capacity to

[2:02:39] accommodate some additional demand

[2:02:41] there.

[2:02:42] >> thanks. >> mr.

[2:02:43] ture.

[2:02:44] >> thank y'all throughout. I

[2:02:45] will try to be quick with my questions

[2:02:47] and feel free to be quick

[2:02:49] with your answers. And I can have

[2:02:50] some more questions

[2:02:53] to follow

[2:02:56] up. Just

[2:02:59] real quick, stv?

[2:03:00] >> the

[2:03:01] company name. The consultant working

[2:03:02] for

[2:03:05] hays county.

[2:03:06] >>

[2:03:08] sub to bge?

[2:03:09] >> it

[2:03:10] is a separate contract. They have

[2:03:14] individual

[2:03:17] contacts with hays county. Overseeing

[2:03:18] the design

[2:03:20] work being performed by

[2:03:23] stv.

[2:03:24] >>

[2:03:26] got you. Great. This

[2:03:28] is helpful throughout. The adjustment

[2:03:32] on the transmission lines. And,

[2:03:35] I think, there

[2:03:38] is

[2:03:40] adjustment per your lift station. To

[2:03:41] fly a little further south on the

[2:03:43] east end of the project. Am I tracking

[2:03:44] what some of the feedback

[2:03:47] you got in the coordination

[2:03:52] study?

[2:03:53] >> some of it was feedback. Some of

[2:03:54] it looking at

[2:03:55] the quarter a little closer. What

[2:03:57] we saw kind

[2:04:00] of

[2:04:02] in that intermediate period was that plat

[2:04:06] was

[2:04:09] approved

[2:04:15] for the road extension.

[2:04:27] that footprint

[2:04:30] was

[2:04:36] reserved for a roadway.

[2:04:39] it

[2:04:42] doesn't

[2:04:45] go past the

[2:04:47] creek there. What we were planning

[2:04:48] for was compatible for

[2:04:49] that. And when we shifted there. What

[2:04:51] you see

[2:04:52] on that curve, that curve that is

[2:04:53] going further south is more just to

[2:04:54] meet the

[2:04:57] design speed of the

[2:04:58] facility. Can't make quite as sharp

[2:05:00] of a curve if we have already

[2:05:01] kind of turned to the south. So it

[2:05:03] was kind of

[2:05:06] a domino

[2:05:07] effect there. And then, the transmission

[2:05:09] towers was looking at

[2:05:12] where those existing

[2:05:13] facilities are at. And just trying

[2:05:15] to impact

[2:05:18] those as little

[2:05:21] as possible.

[2:05:22] >>

[2:05:23] it's helpful. It's good. The tie ins are

[2:05:24] key so

[2:05:27] thank you for those. Good

[2:05:28] comments previously from the councilmembers

[2:05:30] on the east portion of the

[2:05:33] project and just awareness

[2:05:36] there. So

[2:05:39] I appreciate those

[2:05:42] notes. Is the per similar

[2:05:48] monoproject aware and planning

[2:05:50] simmon project working on the purple

[2:05:51] or the

[2:05:53] blue? There is a road being built

[2:05:54] there

[2:05:56] that presumably becomes the frontage

[2:06:00] road of 45.

[2:06:01] >> correct. We

[2:06:03] have

[2:06:05] been working on persimmon. Facilitating

[2:06:06] that. So we are

[2:06:07] aware of their latest plan and have

[2:06:09] shared the latest line

[2:06:12] with them so

[2:06:14] they can preserve the correct footprint

[2:06:15] assuming

[2:06:17] the project were to move forward.

[2:06:18] >>

[2:06:19] is that just footprint

[2:06:21] or am

[2:06:23] I correct that east west road they

[2:06:24] are putting

[2:06:27] in their project.

[2:06:28] >>

[2:06:29] it would be compatible now. Still

[2:06:33] based on the

[2:06:34] final details. It would generally

[2:06:36] be compatible with a future

[2:06:39] 45

[2:06:42] gap.

[2:06:43] >> that is

[2:06:44] helpful. Did the traffic study, I

[2:06:45] appreciate councilmember davidson's

[2:06:46] questions and notes

[2:06:48] on the traffic study. Did you

[2:06:49] kind of isolate the north south traffic

[2:06:51] and it

[2:06:54] is

[2:06:57] primarily

[2:06:59] looking alternative east west?

[2:07:00] >>

[2:07:01] it

[2:07:02] is very much a network based. It is

[2:07:03] a

[2:07:06] demand model. It is not

[2:07:09] really looking at

[2:07:10] say, individual vehicles. Like a micro

[2:07:12] simulation more. It is

[2:07:15] more of a

[2:07:18] macro simulation. It is

[2:07:20] a macro level assessment of what the network

[2:07:24] looks like. What

[2:07:27] could

[2:07:30] be

[2:07:32] added to it. Kind of running where

[2:07:33] vehicles shift

[2:07:35] around to based on purely looking at

[2:07:36] what the demand would be.

[2:07:37] >> one

[2:07:39] thing just to add to that, we look

[2:07:40] at

[2:07:42] a study area for that. Not necessarily

[2:07:43] isolating

[2:07:45] east west or north south. Connections. Or,

[2:07:46] movement. It

[2:07:47] is really the study area. And the

[2:07:48] movement

[2:07:51] that happens

[2:07:54] within that study. Area.

[2:07:55] >>

[2:07:56] helpful notes throughout. Yeah. Okay. That helps

[2:07:57] me to understand

[2:07:58] and interpret it. Is new apartments

[2:08:00] on the

[2:08:02] west side of the project. Talk to

[2:08:03] me about that interchange

[2:08:05] on the west side with those apartments

[2:08:08] where they are being built.

[2:08:09] >> what

[2:08:10] you see there,

[2:08:12] mentioned there would be the 45 main

[2:08:13] lanes, the

[2:08:15] controlled access would go over the top

[2:08:16] of six and

[2:08:18] 26

[2:08:21] and connect into

[2:08:23] the existing 45 facility. And then,

[2:08:24] we would

[2:08:27] have some ramps

[2:08:29] that would also go. The name of that

[2:08:30] area is big

[2:08:33] valley. It is for a reason. It

[2:08:36] sits pretty low. So, even with

[2:08:39] ramps would

[2:08:42] kind

[2:08:45] of fly over that quote unquote valley

[2:08:46] and be

[2:08:48] at a level above that terrain. As

[2:08:49] far as

[2:08:51] the apartments, that is an

[2:08:54] active thing going on

[2:08:57] now. Again, yeah.

[2:08:58] >> I can

[2:09:00] touch on that. So, the need for preserving

[2:09:03] the right of way, this is one

[2:09:06] example of that. And so,

[2:09:09] in this case,

[2:09:12] that

[2:09:13] development did not exist. We could

[2:09:15] not stop them from continuing their

[2:09:17] development. We have had multiple

[2:09:18] coordination meetings with them. Ensuring

[2:09:19] that we

[2:09:21] are able to maintain access

[2:09:24] for them. In the final footprint of

[2:09:28] the project. While you won't see

[2:09:30] that on the schematic because we don't identify

[2:09:31] connections

[2:09:33] for thing that's don't exist at the

[2:09:34] time. We have

[2:09:37] worked through the

[2:09:39] design effort to ensure that they

[2:09:40] can access their

[2:09:43] property from

[2:09:46] this

[2:09:48] roadway in the future. There is a portion

[2:09:49] of their

[2:09:50] property that has been displaced. Because

[2:09:52] we are not ready

[2:09:55] to purchase at the time of their

[2:09:57] development. We were not able to avoid

[2:09:58] that. And so,

[2:09:59] the purpose of the preservation of

[2:10:01] right of

[2:10:04] way as you all know. But, so

[2:10:06] at the end of the schematic phase,

[2:10:07] there were no displacements. That

[2:10:10] is in fact a displacement that

[2:10:12] will occur in the future if right, it

[2:10:13] will occur in the

[2:10:16] future if and when the

[2:10:19] project moves

[2:10:22] forward.

[2:10:23] >>

[2:10:24] helpful throughout I guess. How bad? How

[2:10:25] much is

[2:10:26] the displacement or unclear? Unclear is

[2:10:28] okay if

[2:10:31] you don't have an answer.

[2:10:32] >> it is, I don't

[2:10:33] have a clear number. It is a portion

[2:10:34] of

[2:10:37] a building and

[2:10:40] some of the parking lot. We have

[2:10:41] identified where their water quality

[2:10:43] is. It would

[2:10:44] not put them into non-compliance when

[2:10:49] and if that would happen. So it

[2:10:52] is a portion of the property and a

[2:10:55] structure and some of

[2:10:58] the parking

[2:10:59] lot. But I don't have a number or

[2:11:01] a value for that.

[2:11:02] >>

[2:11:04] even

[2:11:05] that is helpful. Thank you. Yeah. Well

[2:11:07] let's talk about the project not

[2:11:10] if but when. No more use of the

[2:11:13] word if. When on

[2:11:16] this project. Even if it is

[2:11:19] 2045 or when ever. Ultimately, what

[2:11:22] it shows for the traffic

[2:11:24] counts and from the traffic study

[2:11:25] is

[2:11:28] what is so

[2:11:31] key. That

[2:11:32] massive reduction on 1626 through

[2:11:34] downtown, reducing it to

[2:11:36] those that want to go downtown. Key

[2:11:40] aspects of this project. Thank

[2:11:42] you for your work. I guess, just one

[2:11:43] last high level

[2:11:46] question. If there is one thing that

[2:11:49] would change that

[2:11:52] would make travis county look

[2:11:55] more

[2:11:57] favorably on this project. Any takes

[2:11:58] more

[2:12:00] from a technical study standpoint? Are there

[2:12:01] any particular

[2:12:03] things that travis county brings directly

[2:12:04] to the

[2:12:07] table from a technical and study standpoint that

[2:12:08] is

[2:12:10] the

[2:12:13] number one

[2:12:15] thing to change?

[2:12:16] >> the biggest thing

[2:12:17] is having additional open communication

[2:12:19] with them so we can

[2:12:25] explain to them the

[2:12:31] edwards

[2:12:34] edwards aquifur zone. This

[2:12:37] portion of the project is in the

[2:12:40] transition zone. It is in the

[2:12:42] least environmentally sensitive and

[2:12:43] very

[2:12:46] much less

[2:12:48] environmentally sensitive than the

[2:12:49] prior

[2:12:51] state highway 45 project. Conversations

[2:12:52] like that are important

[2:12:54] to help them understand we are doing

[2:12:55] everything to make

[2:12:58] this a sensitive project to

[2:13:01] the environment. And,

[2:13:04] to any edwards aquifer

[2:13:06] regulated areas or non-regulated areas. It

[2:13:07] is really just that communication. Beyond that,

[2:13:10] I don't have an answer for

[2:13:13] you.

[2:13:14] >> that was a

[2:13:16] great answer. Do

[2:13:23] you want my mic? Thank

[2:13:29] you.

[2:13:30] >> any

[2:13:31] questions? Comments? Most of my questions asked. I'm

[2:13:32] trying to

[2:13:35] stay with the study

[2:13:36] scenario going on. I have 190 acres

[2:13:38] of land required

[2:13:41] for the new right of way. You

[2:13:42] have one of your meetings. I think

[2:13:44] I went to

[2:13:47] two of the three. And,

[2:13:50] the

[2:13:51] build no build scenarios. What it

[2:13:53] does to main

[2:13:56] street and 967 and

[2:13:59] robert

[2:14:02] s. Light. By the numbers, that

[2:14:05] is how

[2:14:08] it works. If you live in

[2:14:11] kyle. If

[2:14:14] you are south of 1626, check

[2:14:16] near the google apps and try to figure out,

[2:14:17] do

[2:14:19] I go 35 and work my way over to south

[2:14:20] austin

[2:14:23] or up 1626 and work

[2:14:24] my way to south austin? And that is

[2:14:26] I, don't know how you

[2:14:29] guys did it. I don't know. It's challenging

[2:14:30] to

[2:14:32] know those people

[2:14:34] that make that decision. There are multiple

[2:14:35] different

[2:14:38] ways and we

[2:14:41] are

[2:14:42] creating another meandering third

[2:14:44] way. If you can say east kyle,

[2:14:47] they make

[2:14:48] that choice every day. They take 1626

[2:14:50] or where this thing is

[2:14:51] built. They will take 35 further. And

[2:14:53] then cut across to the west

[2:14:56] to

[2:14:59] get

[2:15:05] to the same place. The

[2:15:07] political side of the conversation, it may

[2:15:08] be in

[2:15:10] the bond and may not be in the bond

[2:15:11] for the

[2:15:14] county side and

[2:15:17] I'm

[2:15:20] trying to

[2:15:22] understand why. That's not the study. It

[2:15:23] is

[2:15:26] all fascinating at

[2:15:29] this point. Funding,

[2:15:32] is there any funding

[2:15:33] available conceptual? Is there any

[2:15:35] funding identified through your

[2:15:37] conversations that would push this

[2:15:38] thing

[2:15:41] into a

[2:15:43] construction? Into next steps?

[2:15:44] >>

[2:15:45] there is currently no

[2:15:46] construction funding for this project. We

[2:15:47] have identified that

[2:15:49] a project of this nature would likely

[2:15:50] need a

[2:15:53] larger partnership with

[2:15:55] regional partners. The funding that

[2:15:56] was

[2:15:58] identified in the hays county bond

[2:15:59] was

[2:16:02] for design and right of way

[2:16:05] preservation. And that as

[2:16:08] you are aware has

[2:16:10] been removed. How they are moving

[2:16:11] forward with

[2:16:14] their

[2:16:17] bond. From the co process. The information

[2:16:18] we

[2:16:20] are receiving from hays county, specifically from

[2:16:21] commissioner smith

[2:16:22] who was here and apologizes for having

[2:16:23] to leave is that this

[2:16:25] is still a priority for him and they

[2:16:26] are looking for

[2:16:29] ways

[2:16:32] to continue

[2:16:34] to advance. The right of way preservation. It is

[2:16:35] so important to

[2:16:38] preserve this right of way. It becomes

[2:16:39] more challenging to purchase that

[2:16:41] right of

[2:16:44] way with

[2:16:46] the funding identified.

[2:16:47] >> nothing

[2:16:48] is getting cheaper. It is

[2:16:50] all going up in reality now. And

[2:16:53] being one of the items,

[2:16:56] it is

[2:17:01] not getting cheaper. Further questions?

[2:17:05] it is certainly fascinating and I

[2:17:06] hope there

[2:17:08] is some way to

[2:17:10] make this a reality. Because I think

[2:17:11] it helps a

[2:17:14] lot of our roads

[2:17:15] within buda and the transportation

[2:17:19] hurdles we are dealing with now. I

[2:17:20] want to see how the

[2:17:23] conversation keeps going

[2:17:25] from this point. Seeing no more comments or questions

[2:17:27] I will say thank

[2:17:30] you. I appreciate your time and

[2:17:33] the

[2:17:39] work in the study.

[2:17:42] >>

[2:17:45] all right that moves us into

[2:17:48] our regular agenda items. K1 is

[2:17:50] deliberation and possible action to

[2:17:54] approve the austin

[2:17:56] street reconstruction 30% schematic

[2:18:02] design.

[2:18:03] >> yes, sir, howdy mayor,

[2:18:05] goodnight council. We are very excited

[2:18:08] as the bond team to come forward with

[2:18:09] the update. It has

[2:18:11] been quite a while since we brought

[2:18:14] it back toward council. Over the past

[2:18:18] year, staff has been meeting

[2:18:19] and improving the design. Meeting

[2:18:21] with property

[2:18:24] and

[2:18:26] business owners along the street. Encountering

[2:18:28] changes and more details. And they

[2:18:30] have gotten it

[2:18:33] to what we consider

[2:18:36] a good 30% schematic design

[2:18:39] and

[2:18:42] reach that

[2:18:43] milestone. There's still a lot more

[2:18:45] coordination needing to be

[2:18:47] done. However, staff believes that

[2:18:48] a higher

[2:18:50] level of detail in the plan sets moving

[2:18:51] forward with

[2:18:53] the design would help us better answer

[2:18:54] those unknowns and

[2:18:57] it is with

[2:18:59] that, that staff is recommending approval

[2:19:00] the

[2:19:02] design has presented and allowing

[2:19:03] the associates

[2:19:06] to proceed with

[2:19:07] the next design phase. This recommendation was

[2:19:09] taken to

[2:19:11] the bond oversight committee on the

[2:19:12] july 31st meeting

[2:19:15] and they

[2:19:19] concurred with that recommendation.

[2:19:21] rj

[2:19:23] will walk through the more technical

[2:19:24] bits. Walk

[2:19:26] through with what we encountered,

[2:19:27] public

[2:19:30] comments, what

[2:19:32] has been incorporated. Parts of the design

[2:19:33] aspects. I will give it

[2:19:35] over to rj.

[2:19:36] >> thank you. I want to

[2:19:37] appreciate it. Thank

[2:19:38] you mayor council. So yeah. A lot

[2:19:39] has happened since

[2:19:42] june was the last time of last year

[2:19:43] we presented and the effort since

[2:19:45] then has been a lot

[2:19:46] of public outreach. A lot of intentional

[2:19:48] engagement with the property owners

[2:19:50] as you all are aware. It is pretty

[2:19:51] difficult to convert back

[2:19:53] of house to front of house. There's

[2:19:54] a lot of challenging areas

[2:19:56] so we have progressed what we have

[2:19:59] been able to progress. And so, the

[2:20:00] next three

[2:20:01] slides will summarize what that looks

[2:20:03] like with blue being comments we

[2:20:05] have received from the engagement

[2:20:06] process that

[2:20:07] still unresolved gray that our items

[2:20:09] we have already

[2:20:11] been able to resolve. We have incorporated

[2:20:14] it into the design. And the red is

[2:20:15] items we have

[2:20:16] identified through owners meetings

[2:20:18] that are going

[2:20:21] to

[2:20:24] follow

[2:20:27] up with design changes. So

[2:20:30] we can kind of work 27, 72, to

[2:20:31] san antonio street here moving south

[2:20:33] to north. Where

[2:20:35] you can see some of the dumpsters

[2:20:36] we had intentionally thought were

[2:20:37] going

[2:20:38] to be outside of the right of way

[2:20:39] will have to remain in the

[2:20:41] right of way. And in other areas. We

[2:20:42] will

[2:20:45] have to

[2:20:46] rework and relocate some poles within it.

[2:20:54] similar space, the design hasn't changed

[2:20:57] a whole bunch but it starts to identify

[2:20:59] and solidify what is happening between

[2:21:00] peach and

[2:21:03] live oak there

[2:21:06] with some of the relocations there

[2:21:09] with the modify the design. Moving

[2:21:11] to some shared dumpsters at a couple

[2:21:12] of those places. Some of these

[2:21:14] properties are working through the

[2:21:15] redevelopment ha has been

[2:21:18] a piece that is an ongoing discussion,

[2:21:20] moving a property on the west side

[2:21:24] to the alley

[2:21:26] way and crossing live oak street. And

[2:21:27] at the end

[2:21:29] here on the last slide here, similar

[2:21:30] is just really showing and

[2:21:32] highlighting some of the areas that

[2:21:35] are slightly different. If you guys

[2:21:36] do

[2:21:39] recall in the schematic phase, what

[2:21:40] was

[2:21:42] presented, other

[2:21:47] areas that were combined dumpsters,

[2:21:48] they have gone into slight

[2:21:50] different lay outs or slight different

[2:21:51] designs. So that is where we

[2:21:53] are at in the process. And are able

[2:21:54] to be

[2:21:57] able to get

[2:21:59] to at this point. Looking back you

[2:22:00] know at

[2:22:01] the overall the design from where

[2:22:03] we are going to where we are trying

[2:22:04] to get and understand what is driving

[2:22:06] a lot of the decisions and the

[2:22:09] issues to get to the final

[2:22:10] design is this dumpster decision and

[2:22:12] how we work through with

[2:22:15] each

[2:22:18] of the property owners is the litmus

[2:22:19] for

[2:22:21] making

[2:22:27] sure it

[2:22:29] works effectively. We have a better

[2:22:30] handle on

[2:22:33] what is to be expected. And move through

[2:22:36] that relatively quickly. It

[2:22:39] is right back to

[2:22:41] you.

[2:22:42] >> thank you rj. To expand a

[2:22:43] bit, what rj was

[2:22:45] talking about with the pec bit, we

[2:22:47] have this very wordy slide here, there

[2:22:48] is

[2:22:50] a lot of information. And the staff

[2:22:51] is met

[2:22:54] with pec multiple times

[2:22:57] to discuss what

[2:23:00] options are

[2:23:03] possible

[2:23:06] with following

[2:23:09] our city

[2:23:11] code. Our waste water treatment plant

[2:23:12] needing that constant power and the

[2:23:13] texas childrens we

[2:23:15] are all aware of

[2:23:17] needing that dedicated double stack

[2:23:18] three-phase line. It

[2:23:21] limits where we can go underground. We

[2:23:24] have a most likely result that will

[2:23:27] happen is

[2:23:30] pec will install an upgrade, the overhead on

[2:23:33] market street which will

[2:23:36] allow them to install

[2:23:39] underground electric between peach

[2:23:40] and san antonio. Pec

[2:23:43] would reconnect all the

[2:23:44] services. We wouldn't leave anybody

[2:23:46] hanging and

[2:23:49] pec would remove

[2:23:50] the old overhead electric between

[2:23:51] peach and san antonio. To do this,

[2:23:53] we need an agreement with pec. Most of

[2:23:55] the funding would come from the

[2:23:58] bond program or

[2:24:00] this project. And we need additional

[2:24:01] easements for the

[2:24:04] new transformer pads that will

[2:24:07] be servicing

[2:24:10] the underground services. So,

[2:24:12] where we are going, there is still

[2:24:13] a

[2:24:16] lot to do. We believe a

[2:24:18] higher level of design will allow

[2:24:19] us to see

[2:24:20] these constraints more quickly. So that

[2:24:22] is chi we

[2:24:25] are asking we do

[2:24:28] proceed with the next design phase. When

[2:24:30] we get the 60% we will get a cost

[2:24:31] estimate

[2:24:32] of potential phasing of the project

[2:24:34] and look at

[2:24:37] additional funding sources for

[2:24:40] it. It will give a better detail

[2:24:43] for the reservation

[2:24:46] of

[2:24:50] improvements, along the alleys. We

[2:24:55] will

[2:24:57] keep the public engagement going. Working

[2:24:58] with the

[2:25:01] edc

[2:25:04] on the dumpster

[2:25:06] relocations. Once again, recommendation

[2:25:07] is to improve

[2:25:09] the design as presented. That conclude

[2:25:10] it

[2:25:13] is staff report. We are here to

[2:25:16] answer

[2:25:19] few questions y'all might

[2:25:21] have.

[2:25:22] >> questions from council? >>

[2:25:23] any chance I get

[2:25:24] talking to the business owners on

[2:25:25] austin street, I'm

[2:25:28] trying

[2:25:31] to

[2:25:37] talk them into this. In order

[2:25:40] to make the back an

[2:25:42] entrance to. And the back of house

[2:25:43] operations they

[2:25:45] have been doing for years. And not

[2:25:46] wanting to shake

[2:25:48] up their apple cart very much. Trying

[2:25:49] to

[2:25:52] encourage more people to access

[2:25:55] their businesses. It

[2:25:58] is

[2:26:01] a dual

[2:26:02] edged approach. I have been interested

[2:26:03] in austin street for another main street

[2:26:04] for as

[2:26:06] long as I have been sitting up here. This

[2:26:07] is a

[2:26:08] fascinating and great thing. I'm happy

[2:26:10] to see we are

[2:26:13] moving forward

[2:26:15] on the design side. We will discuss funding

[2:26:16] at some point in the future

[2:26:17] because we don't have the funding

[2:26:19] for

[2:26:21] the construction piece at this point. But

[2:26:22] we will,

[2:26:25] I will be encouraging

[2:26:28] folks to try to get that option

[2:26:31] on

[2:26:32] the table. Questions from council? Anyone? Everyone?

[2:26:34] everybody

[2:26:36] loves it?

[2:26:37] >> I don't really have any

[2:26:38] questions

[2:26:39] at this time. I just have a, the real

[2:26:40] question is keep

[2:26:43] the

[2:26:44] high level of engagement. Echoing

[2:26:46] some of what you said. It

[2:26:49] is only going to help the experience

[2:26:50] for

[2:26:51] everyone for us to keep our ears open

[2:26:52] and incorporate

[2:26:54] as much or mitigate as much of their

[2:26:55] concern as we possibly

[2:26:58] can of the existing folks. I

[2:27:00] am hesitant to phrase it this way. But

[2:27:01] short term

[2:27:03] pain, long term gain. Short term,

[2:27:04] it will be some

[2:27:07] painful months when we

[2:27:09] do kick it off. It is major overhaul. When

[2:27:10] we look back on it,

[2:27:13] it will be

[2:27:16] a

[2:27:19] years long process of pain. But

[2:27:21] in the large scheme of things when

[2:27:25] we look at

[2:27:26] the improvement that's will happen

[2:27:28] when we look at what is happening

[2:27:29] across the street between main street

[2:27:31] and the railroad tracks and the long

[2:27:33] term view there and you add in this

[2:27:34] element of austin street

[2:27:37] and what city park is

[2:27:40] continuing to bring. In

[2:27:43] that whole area long term. I believe

[2:27:46] in the project 100%. I

[2:27:48] just wanted, if nothing else, give

[2:27:49] you guys

[2:27:51] a little bit of motivation. Know you

[2:27:52] still have the support to

[2:27:54] continue to work. To the mayor's point,

[2:27:55] we are still

[2:27:58] away from funding and turning dirt

[2:28:01] out there. But,

[2:28:03] this is where we go. To me it is obvious

[2:28:04] this

[2:28:07] is the way to shape downtown into

[2:28:08] keeping

[2:28:09] the charm that we currently have. Which

[2:28:10] is creating a little

[2:28:13] bit more of it

[2:28:16] for everyone

[2:28:18] to enjoy. So, but I absolutely understand

[2:28:19] that the short term pain is real

[2:28:22] and it will be channeling. So just

[2:28:23] stay engaged and

[2:28:25] keep trying to mitigate

[2:28:27] where you can. Thank you guys.

[2:28:28] >>

[2:28:29] what's the

[2:28:31] plan for texas

[2:28:33] children's hospital at this point?

[2:28:34] >>

[2:28:35] micah might

[2:28:37] know more than me. But,

[2:28:39] the plan is currently delayed. They

[2:28:40] have not broken ground up there. I don't

[2:28:41] know

[2:28:42] if there is a given time line on when

[2:28:43] they will

[2:28:45] actually start initiating the improvement.

[2:28:46] >>

[2:28:47] do you have an

[2:28:48] idea about roughly where that would

[2:28:49] be?

[2:28:50] >> the

[2:28:52] hospital itself? Yes, ma'am. It

[2:28:54] is located near per year and old san

[2:28:55] antonio.

[2:28:56] >> okay. I just need

[2:28:58] to make sure I told somebody

[2:29:01] else

[2:29:04] that correct information already. Thank

[2:29:05] you.

[2:29:06] >> do

[2:29:07] you mind flipping back to the pec

[2:29:08] slide again? Thank

[2:29:10] you. And

[2:29:13] I caught most of it. I mess maybe

[2:29:15] a simple question. High level is just

[2:29:16] how much does this factor into the

[2:29:19] potential

[2:29:22] cost of the project?

[2:29:23] >> could be a

[2:29:24] good deal of it. Yes, sir.

[2:29:25] >> that

[2:29:26] is

[2:29:34] >> I'll say,

[2:29:36] most well-oriented downtown you could

[2:29:39] make it for the long-term future ,

[2:29:40] right? It's valuable. I appreciate

[2:29:41] these conversations as well as all

[2:29:43] the businesses.

[2:29:46] just like you have outlined,

[2:29:50] this is helpful. Thanks for watching

[2:29:52] these through.

[2:29:58] budget once we

[2:29:59] get a cost estimate we will get a

[2:30:01] better eye on what these

[2:30:02] improvements would likely mean. One

[2:30:04] thing I did not quite emphasize

[2:30:07] on here,

[2:30:08] we would use the texas children's

[2:30:10] aspect as much as we could to positively

[2:30:12] position some polls, that would be beneficial

[2:30:13] for

[2:30:16] the project

[2:30:18] with these other aspects.

[2:30:19] >> good notes.

[2:30:25] >> that's a good point.

[2:30:28] since

[2:30:31] the new

[2:30:32] transmission line is in the works

[2:30:34] to do this, we are not going to

[2:30:42] be excited about them coming into

[2:30:43] main street. So,

[2:30:44] if we can push -- I want to say this

[2:30:46] is a negotiating tool for

[2:30:49] us, but, stopping short

[2:30:50] of saying we don't want anything on

[2:30:52] main street. We spent a lot of money

[2:30:53] to

[2:30:54] clean up main street. It was kind

[2:30:55] of a sucker punch

[2:31:00] when they come in and say, let's put

[2:31:01] a big transmission

[2:31:02] line where you just spent millions

[2:31:03] of dollars to put it underground.

[2:31:04] all of that

[2:31:06] being said, if we can combine the effort

[2:31:07] ,

[2:31:10] and I would say a win-win,

[2:31:18] they could find a way to work the

[2:31:19] two projects together, and benefit

[2:31:21] both sides. I think that is an opportunity

[2:31:28] .

[2:31:32] >> any other questions or comments?

[2:31:34] public testimony on this item? Well,

[2:31:36] I will make the motion that we approve

[2:31:40] the reconstruction 30%

[2:31:41] schematic design for austin street,

[2:31:43] as presented. Emotion and a second?

[2:31:44] all

[2:31:46] in favor? Any opposed?

[2:31:49] motion carries. Thank you.

[2:31:52] all right, k 2.

[2:31:55] possible deliberation to avoid

[2:31:57] a master service agreement for general

[2:31:58] engineering services

[2:32:01] not to exceed

[2:32:04] $562,003.76 .

[2:32:07] to

[2:32:10] hdr engineering,

[2:32:13] executing

[2:32:14] task order number one for fm 2770

[2:32:16] wastewater improvements

[2:32:19] , not to exceed amount of $562,003.76,

[2:32:22] in conjunction with the

[2:32:24] interlocal agreement between the city of

[2:32:28] buda and buda

[2:32:29] economic development corporation to

[2:32:30] design and construct utilities along

[2:32:31] fm 2770.

[2:32:34] >> thank you, mayor. Didn't make it

[2:32:35] short

[2:32:37] on you. This is both

[2:32:40] a recommendation to award

[2:32:43] an msa, with

[2:32:46] hdr engineering

[2:32:49] , or master services agreement

[2:32:50] for general engineering services,

[2:32:52] and then, to also secure

[2:32:55] task order number one, which would

[2:32:57] be those fm 2770 wastewater improvements.

[2:32:58] y'all may recall

[2:33:00] that back in april, 2025, you executed

[2:33:04] and il-8 with the edc,

[2:33:13] and interlocal agreement

[2:33:15] and allowing the city and edc to enter

[2:33:16] into a cooperative purchasing program,

[2:33:17] to

[2:33:18] fund engineering design services related

[2:33:19] to construction of water and wastewater

[2:33:20] lines to save properties along

[2:33:22] fm 2770. This project, itself,

[2:33:25] the cip is focusing solely on the

[2:33:28] wastewater aspect

[2:33:31] . Blake and I

[2:33:33] are currently working on the water side

[2:33:34] and we will bring that to you, soon,

[2:33:37] as well. Hdr was

[2:33:40] selected using our prequalified

[2:33:43] consultants list, it is the same resolution

[2:33:48] , and it should be noted that the

[2:33:49] msa is a general

[2:33:50] engineering services contract. It

[2:33:52] includes all of the services that hdr

[2:33:55] offers within

[2:33:58] what they submitted for that rfq .

[2:34:01] and then

[2:34:04] this task order itself is

[2:34:07] the one focusing solely on the wastewater.

[2:34:09] the scope that they presented to us

[2:34:10] involves designing about

[2:34:13] 8200 linear feet

[2:34:16] of hopefully gravity wastewater

[2:34:19] maine, adjacent to

[2:34:22] 2770 and neighboring roads. The scope

[2:34:24] has been broken down into seven main tasks,

[2:34:28] with the main goal

[2:34:29] ending with a construction plan set

[2:34:31] at the end of it which is ready to

[2:34:32] go

[2:34:33] to bed, and hdr providing construction

[2:34:34] phase services with that,

[2:34:37] as well.

[2:34:40] total cost for the msa is $562 --

[2:34:47] $562,003.76,

[2:34:49] to match the amount proposed in task

[2:34:53] order 1.

[2:34:55] this is a time and materials contract

[2:34:56] with

[2:34:57] a not to exceed amount. No funding

[2:34:59] is requested right

[2:35:02] now, and

[2:35:05] any

[2:35:06] future additions to this msa will

[2:35:07] come as amendments to council. So,

[2:35:08] if

[2:35:09] we do want to engage another project

[2:35:10] with hdr to expand that msa, it would

[2:35:14] come as an amendment

[2:35:18] , because right now, we are asking

[2:35:19] that it just be included to the scope

[2:35:21] of task order 1. That is why those

[2:35:23] are the same amount. The buda adc

[2:35:24] has pledged 540,000 for this design

[2:35:26] project under the ila, and

[2:35:34] the pros and cons with this project,

[2:35:36] the city will continue its partnership

[2:35:37] with the edc, increasing the develop

[2:35:38] ability along

[2:35:41] the 2770 corridor.

[2:35:45] following along with the future conference

[2:35:47] of plan and land

[2:35:48] use map , so that the identified parcels

[2:35:50] along this roadway,

[2:35:55] most of which are light industrial

[2:35:56] in our land use map,

[2:35:57] but several large properties along

[2:36:04] fm 2770 and 1626 are identified as

[2:36:05] a corridor commercial,

[2:36:06] which could bring several different

[2:36:07] types of businesses to buda that we

[2:36:08] would potentially be

[2:36:11] able to offer city

[2:36:14] services, too.

[2:36:17] the cons being that

[2:36:20] $552,003.76 is

[2:36:22] more than the 540 we initially scoped

[2:36:23] for the

[2:36:26] cip. However,

[2:36:28] public works director blake nevin

[2:36:29] both and I thought it would

[2:36:30] be prudent to ask hdr to throw in

[2:36:32] a feasibility report for

[2:36:33] this project. There is potentially

[2:36:35] a few

[2:36:37] alignments we could take with this project,

[2:36:43] and some are constrained on capacity.

[2:36:44] they are different sizes,

[2:36:45] and if we are wanting to design this

[2:36:47] for the

[2:36:49] long term master planning of this area

[2:36:59] , to ensure that we do not have to

[2:37:00] go in and redesign it when it does

[2:37:02] get fully developed, we want that

[2:37:03] for

[2:37:04] the feasibility report to show us

[2:37:05] the ideal alignment which will benefit

[2:37:06] us in the

[2:37:07] future and the constructibility and

[2:37:08] mary those two.

[2:37:10] alternatives, if council would like,

[2:37:11] we can go

[2:37:14] back and renegotiate with

[2:37:17] the scope if it does not match counsel's desire.

[2:37:20] I will note that we

[2:37:23] have gotten this

[2:37:25] about three turns with the scope,

[2:37:26] blake and I,

[2:37:28] with hdr , there is a real good collaboration

[2:37:29] on

[2:37:30] talking through some of the parts that

[2:37:34] we thought may not be unnecessary,

[2:37:41] streamlining the scope and we

[2:37:42] believe we got it to a point that

[2:37:43] it meets all of our expectations and

[2:37:44] can deliver

[2:37:46] quality product. With that, staff

[2:37:47] recommends the approval of the msa

[2:37:48] which with hdr engineering inc. For

[2:37:53] services in an amount not to exceed

[2:37:56] 562,000

[2:37:59] dollars,

[2:38:02] approving task order 1

[2:38:05] for that same amount for 2770 wastewater

[2:38:06] improvements.

[2:38:07] >> thank you. Questions on this one?

[2:38:10] >> just one, thank you. The question

[2:38:11] is just,

[2:38:17] I guess

[2:38:18] they think it was around the whole presentation

[2:38:19] with the work here, but specifically

[2:38:20] including the

[2:38:22] feasibility, because there is a lot

[2:38:23] of

[2:38:26] different potential

[2:38:29] around that corner,

[2:38:30] and the end of this line, or along

[2:38:32] the line, I should say. The whole

[2:38:33] thing.

[2:38:35] what will that tell us

[2:38:37] that the original study would not?

[2:38:38] I think in the

[2:38:39] original study, there is some degree

[2:38:41] of incorporating some buildout, I think.

[2:38:44] the feasibility

[2:38:47] is just telling you about even

[2:38:48] more potentials on the buildout. What

[2:38:50] is the difference between that

[2:38:51] and the baseline?

[2:38:52] >> so, the buildout

[2:38:53] has, to my knowledge

[2:38:58] , stayed roughly the same it is just

[2:38:59] that we have

[2:39:00] more areas we could connect to, and

[2:39:01] they all offer varying degrees of

[2:39:02] capacity.

[2:39:05] some above

[2:39:08] railroad

[2:39:09] crossings, some involve potentially

[2:39:10] the need for another lift station.

[2:39:11] we would like to

[2:39:14] look through

[2:39:16] the feasibility, and see what makes sense

[2:39:17] now, and what can serve

[2:39:18] the city long-term.

[2:39:19] >> okay. And,

[2:39:20] is that with different degrees of

[2:39:23] potential lue

[2:39:26] at the

[2:39:28] south end of that line?

[2:39:29] >> we have

[2:39:30] asked hdr

[2:39:32] to do

[2:39:35] , is to take the future land

[2:39:37] use map and assume the most aggressive

[2:39:38] form of lue,

[2:39:41] that is

[2:39:44] where we would have the line itself

[2:39:45] to

[2:39:46] want to design to, and in the feasibility study

[2:39:47] it

[2:39:48] would execute which alignment would

[2:39:49] serve that purpose.

[2:39:50] >> cool, thanks.

[2:39:53] >> questions, comments?

[2:39:56] does

[2:39:58] anyone want to make a motion for this one?

[2:40:01] >> mayor, I will make a motion that we

[2:40:02] award the msa

[2:40:05] as presented.

[2:40:07] >> we have a mission and a second.

[2:40:08] all those in favor? No

[2:40:10] public testimony? A missionary second,

[2:40:11] all those in favor?

[2:40:14] any opposed? All right.

[2:40:17] motion carries.

[2:40:19] >> do we need to execute the task

[2:40:20] order, too?

[2:40:23] no? All right.

[2:40:26] >> it was as presented. >> awesome.

[2:40:27] thank you.

[2:40:29] >> good question, thank you. All right.

[2:40:32] k3.

[2:40:36] adopt resolution establishing a policy

[2:40:38] related to artificial intelligence systems

[2:40:47] used by or on behalf of the city

[2:40:49] of buda to guide the ethical and responsible

[2:40:50] use of artificial intelligence technologies,

[2:40:51] and providing

[2:40:52] for an effective date. Mr. Cameron?

[2:40:53] >> good evening, mayor

[2:40:56] and council. Recent state bills that

[2:40:57] were passed

[2:40:59] , house bill 150, 3512,

[2:41:02] 149,

[2:41:05] and the senate bill 1964, set

[2:41:08] the groundwork for a regulatory structure for

[2:41:11] local governments

[2:41:14] .

[2:41:20] sorry.

[2:41:23] groundwork for local governments in

[2:41:26] the regulation of a.I. Systems.

[2:41:29] outlined to the dir.

[2:41:35] the policy that we

[2:41:38] have created for you, is based

[2:41:41] on the template from

[2:41:44] geo vai

[2:41:46] , a coalition of city governments,

[2:41:50] some other cities within texas that

[2:41:53] have used them, this

[2:41:56] template specifically san antonio,

[2:41:59] austin, round rock

[2:42:01] and waco. With relevance to a.I.,

[2:42:02] it is important to get ahead

[2:42:06] of it.

[2:42:08] it is a rapidly changing and emerging

[2:42:09] technology, it is

[2:42:10] important to have some form of policy

[2:42:12] in place for how we treat it.

[2:42:15] the policy ensures social good

[2:42:18] , ethical,

[2:42:21] non-discriminant

[2:42:24] agent, and

[2:42:26] use in government services. The policy in

[2:42:27] front

[2:42:30] of you,

[2:42:33] a couple wave

[2:42:34] tops on it, it has some definitions

[2:42:35] to include what we consider artificial intelligence

[2:42:41] , the scope of who it applies to,

[2:42:42] staff, interns,

[2:42:43] consultants, contractors, basically

[2:42:44] anyone performing work on behalf of

[2:42:45] the city of

[2:42:47] buda. Outline responsibility of the

[2:42:48] users,

[2:42:49] and addresses what is considered pii

[2:42:51] , specifically on how not

[2:42:53] to use it within the a.I. Systems.

[2:43:00] identifies prevented and preapproved

[2:43:01] a.I. Platforms and creates a process

[2:43:03] for requesting new ones, and

[2:43:05] this will be incorporated into the

[2:43:09] employee handbook .

[2:43:12] any questions ?

[2:43:15] >> first of all, thank

[2:43:18] you for looking out for

[2:43:19] us, and making our changes as we need

[2:43:21] to, as the world changes

[2:43:24] around us. Weston from counsel?

[2:43:27] ms. Williams?

[2:43:33] >> good evening, cameron, thank you

[2:43:34] very

[2:43:35] much for sharing this information.

[2:43:36] I have a couple of really quick questions.

[2:43:38] in the analysis, you're saying that

[2:43:39] the policy is

[2:43:40] going to outline what constitutes

[2:43:42] an incident?

[2:43:44] and, in response to an incident that

[2:43:45] results from improper use?

[2:43:48] how do you control that

[2:43:50] with a consultant and contractor?

[2:43:51] >> that is something that we

[2:43:54] will have to work with

[2:43:56] purchasing on working into our contract

[2:43:57] language. It would

[2:43:59] be relatively the same process , isolating

[2:44:03] the offending device, whether

[2:44:04] that is a laptop, desktop server,

[2:44:09] isolating it and addressing it from there,

[2:44:14] seeing what has been affected, and

[2:44:15] how

[2:44:17] we need to rollback to get to a functional

[2:44:18] state.

[2:44:19] >> can you give me

[2:44:20] an example of what a negative incident

[2:44:21] would be?

[2:44:27] >> say that a contractor comes in

[2:44:30] with a

[2:44:32] platform that have developed to use

[2:44:33] for the city, and it

[2:44:36] goes out and

[2:44:43] gets access to our shared drives.

[2:44:44] we would want to isolate that, obviously,

[2:44:45] pull

[2:44:46] it off the network, see what it has

[2:44:48] gotten access to, see whether the

[2:44:49] data

[2:44:50] is stored or shared, make sure nothing

[2:44:51] has been deleted or

[2:44:54] copied down.

[2:44:56] and address it in that capacity.

[2:44:57] >>

[2:44:58] we are more concerned about

[2:44:59] whether or not they gain access to

[2:45:00] secured information that should not

[2:45:01] have

[2:45:03] access to?

[2:45:05] >> yes, ma'am, that is just one sample.

[2:45:06] >> okay. Thank you.

[2:45:09] >> questions, comments?

[2:45:15] >> I got the button

[2:45:18] to work. Thank you

[2:45:21] . Overall, I think it is a very responsible

[2:45:24] comprehensive policy. As we start

[2:45:27] to explore and mess around a

[2:45:30] little bit with a.I.

[2:45:33] ,

[2:45:36] when I first went through

[2:45:37] and read this I thought it was a bit

[2:45:39] too restrictive,

[2:45:42] I know there are a lot of capabilities we could

[2:45:43] potentially

[2:45:45] use for automation, but pii and automation

[2:45:46] has a

[2:45:47] bit of conflict there, so, I think

[2:45:48] I am good with

[2:45:53] it as written, but I think that when

[2:45:54] you start to get

[2:45:56] those exceptions and requests like

[2:45:57] a, we want to

[2:45:59] do this and it meets all these criteria,

[2:46:00] and state policies and everything

[2:46:01] else, we

[2:46:03] are protecting pii, which is

[2:46:10] super important, that is maybe when

[2:46:12] we come back and look to amend it

[2:46:14] and loosen it up a bit, we will have more

[2:46:15] experience with it as well. Other

[2:46:16] than that, just general comments,

[2:46:18] I think you are already doing this,

[2:46:19] but,

[2:46:20] make it easy for people to do the

[2:46:21] right thing ,

[2:46:24] sedlock devices,

[2:46:26] lock the network and do whatever you

[2:46:27] can to prevent people from doing the

[2:46:29] wrong thing on accident. And then

[2:46:30] training is critical. So, both

[2:46:33] from what not to do, but also from

[2:46:36] a, hey, here's how to prompt the best

[2:46:37] way, here

[2:46:39] is how to use these things.

[2:46:42] I think you can do a

[2:46:45] lot of good. And see where things

[2:46:46] evolve.

[2:46:48] thank you.

[2:46:49] >>

[2:46:50] any public testimony on this one?

[2:46:54] anyone want to make

[2:46:57] the motion?

[2:47:06] >> moved to approve k3

[2:47:09] as presented.

[2:47:12] >> we have a motion

[2:47:13] and a second. All those in favor?

[2:47:15] any opposed? Motion

[2:47:18] carries. Thank you.

[2:47:21] k for .

[2:47:24] deliberation and possible action to

[2:47:25] award

[2:47:27] rf p 25-255

[2:47:30] buda sportsplex softball and soccer

[2:47:31] field

[2:47:33] complex to g hyatt construction

[2:47:36] inc., and to authorize the city manager

[2:47:37] to

[2:47:38] negotiate and execute a contract. Tony?

[2:47:42] >> good

[2:47:44] evening, counsel. How y'all doing?

[2:47:48] I'll try to keep this as short as

[2:47:51] I can. For the project,

[2:47:54] obviously we went out to bid once

[2:47:57] , there was an issue, we had to do

[2:48:00] some things, the

[2:48:02] last few weeks we have been working

[2:48:03] on trying to get a contract

[2:48:05] done, thankfully with the help of dcs

[2:48:06] and staff, we got

[2:48:09] it done. These are

[2:48:11] some of the cost savings on the project

[2:48:13] that we negotiated

[2:48:15] with the contractor. Utility contractor

[2:48:16] is based

[2:48:19] in buda

[2:48:20] waves the mobilization fee which is

[2:48:22] nice. Have used them on

[2:48:23] several of our projects, so they gave

[2:48:25] us a big contract discount.

[2:48:28] we reduced

[2:48:31] --I reduced the contract,

[2:48:33] I allowed 50 more days because they

[2:48:37] had already liquidated built

[2:48:38] into the contract so extended that

[2:48:40] 50 days to get rid of the

[2:48:41] $100,000 they would bill us for, which

[2:48:43] does not cost me anything,

[2:48:45] it still gets me what I need to get

[2:48:47] completed, so I think that was a win

[2:48:49] for both of us.

[2:48:52] electrical's implications,

[2:48:59] clarification issued after bid, there

[2:49:00] were some things we were negotiating,

[2:49:01] and then on tuesday

[2:49:02] was the deadline, and then afterwards,

[2:49:06] he called to say hey, I got extra

[2:49:07] money from my

[2:49:08] electric engineer, my electrical companies,

[2:49:09] so he gave us a bit of a discount.

[2:49:13] we also sympathize the

[2:49:15] traffic control. It is not nearly as rigorous

[2:49:17] as what we had put, but it is definitely

[2:49:19] stupefied. We have eliminated

[2:49:22] masonry

[2:49:23] walls for the dugouts and replaced

[2:49:25] chain-link posts and fences .

[2:49:27] physically I got an interior that

[2:49:28] is brick

[2:49:31] and they concrete

[2:49:35] exterior, for the dugouts I went to

[2:49:37] one of his offense instead of a

[2:49:38] cmu wall which delivered a lot of

[2:49:40] cost savings on that aspect

[2:49:43] of it. I can get

[2:49:46] the markup through

[2:49:47] my board and contractors, we are taking

[2:49:49] that on.

[2:49:53] eliminated in its entirety which we

[2:49:55] did not need per our

[2:49:58] engineering staff.

[2:50:00] for the city of buda . We eliminated

[2:50:01] the

[2:50:04] masonry walls ,

[2:50:06] replaced with metal studs. We eliminated

[2:50:07] the stainless steel

[2:50:10] wall panels , replaced by frp,

[2:50:13] which is a huge savings, there.

[2:50:16] obviously, there working

[2:50:17] for the city so they will not pay

[2:50:21] any permanent fees, that's a nice

[2:50:22] little savings there

[2:50:25] as well put city of buda purchases

[2:50:27] the field tarps, hoses, dugout benches, helmets,

[2:50:31] racks and bats

[2:50:33] and fun stuff, we can buy that through

[2:50:34] our own

[2:50:37] catalog and that it's cheaper.

[2:50:43] rs three, reduced the root zone to

[2:50:45] medium depth, we cut it to 4 inches.

[2:50:49] hyatt cost savings received after the

[2:50:51] bid, so after we had some talks on

[2:50:52] the final

[2:50:55] day, tuesday, I needed to

[2:50:56] get this to micah so he could make

[2:50:58] a decision about what we are doing.

[2:50:59] he passed on more cost savings. I

[2:51:01] will tell you, and I have a

[2:51:04] couple of more,

[2:51:07] pre-engineered

[2:51:08] metal sightings and batting cages

[2:51:10] to match the roof,

[2:51:12] that's a small savings, and delete

[2:51:13] wet

[2:51:16] fire sprinkler

[2:51:17] through the concession stands, we

[2:51:19] just did it for the

[2:51:22] canceled system only. With

[2:51:23] all those savings there, that was

[2:51:25] quite a bit of savings, for us. The

[2:51:28] biggest ones, just to give

[2:51:31] you an example,

[2:51:40] is the --I

[2:51:41] don't know where I put it. Cost savings

[2:51:43] received after bid

[2:51:46] , that was $1 million. The electrical

[2:51:51] was 1 million. So, hyatt did a great

[2:51:52] job, they were

[2:51:54] very upfront, I don't feel like they

[2:51:58] were ripping us off

[2:51:59] or taking advantage of us or however

[2:52:01] you want to say it, I

[2:52:04] think they --justin has a lot of

[2:52:05] integrity, he talked to us straight

[2:52:06] up, we were straightforward with each

[2:52:07] other on what

[2:52:10] we needed to do, and it was a

[2:52:11] pleasure doing business with them

[2:52:13] and having conversations. There was probably

[2:52:19] some conversation on his part

[2:52:20] and our part because there is a number

[2:52:22] we need to get to, and we

[2:52:23] were having some difficult conversations,

[2:52:24] but, with darren's help and his team,

[2:52:25] who did a fantastic

[2:52:26] job, we started on thursday, having

[2:52:28] discussions if we were talk on friday,

[2:52:31] and

[2:52:33] we did not stop until tuesday, so

[2:52:34] that a saturday, sunday, all

[2:52:35] his team doing the electrical, doing

[2:52:37] the structural,

[2:52:41] doing whatever we needed on any of

[2:52:43] these things, to make sure we weren't giving up

[2:52:45] quality and we were getting what we

[2:52:46] were supposed to get that we wanted.

[2:52:49] and so,

[2:52:51] I think we have done that. I think

[2:52:52] we have done

[2:52:54] a heck of a job to keep the integrity

[2:52:55] of what our original vision is

[2:52:57] with some adjustments. And then, here

[2:52:58] is the proposal, the base bid

[2:53:01] and the being

[2:53:04] 12 million,

[2:53:07] and

[2:53:08] I missed the alternative earlier today,

[2:53:10] so I apologize for that.

[2:53:12] we did the maintenance building , 600,000,

[2:53:16] bleachers at 56,

[2:53:21] the additional parking lot is 751

[2:53:22] and the batting cages are

[2:53:23] 879, so that gave us a total proposal

[2:53:25] of 14,982,000

[2:53:28] 997.25.

[2:53:31] getting that

[2:53:32] charge taken care of, that's 572,000,

[2:53:34] and the total with lighting

[2:53:37] would be a

[2:53:40] 15,558,000.

[2:53:43] here is our funding sources.

[2:53:46] we have 2024 co bond,

[2:53:49] which is 5.15, the

[2:53:52] buda

[2:53:54] edc is 1.5, once you send this, opposed

[2:53:58] 2026 co bond is

[2:54:09] 11,250,000. And that can change if

[2:54:10] you choose to, the annual debt

[2:54:12] estimated is 814,000 per year for

[2:54:13] 25 years.

[2:54:19] for a total of 17.9 million. With

[2:54:20] all the work

[2:54:21] that we have had to do since the bid

[2:54:22] has ended, it is probably around

[2:54:25] 1.6, and we have 16.3 available for construction.

[2:54:28] >> thank you. Questions?

[2:54:31] accolades?

[2:54:37] >> just want to reiterate, this does

[2:54:38] not

[2:54:40] happen without

[2:54:43] darren's staff and his team, because

[2:54:44] we all put in

[2:54:46] long nights to make

[2:54:49] this

[2:54:51] happen. Answering emails and phone calls,

[2:54:52] that's all taken care of, I just want

[2:54:53] to

[2:54:54] make sure that it is us as a team

[2:54:55] getting this done. It was

[2:54:57] no individual, definitely a team effort

[2:54:58] to make this happen.

[2:55:02] >> mr. Smith? >> appreciate it.

[2:55:08] it feels good, it will feel even

[2:55:10] better when we see it. Right? See

[2:55:11] them out there

[2:55:13] playing ball. So, scaling back and

[2:55:17] going to --going from this

[2:55:20] concrete blocks

[2:55:23] into a plastic polymer

[2:55:26] finish, you mentioned quality ,

[2:55:29] I am thinking longevity.

[2:55:31] what is the lifespan on the material

[2:55:32] versus

[2:55:35] single block?

[2:55:36] >> center block

[2:55:40] is obviously 20 or 30 up to 50 years

[2:55:41] depending

[2:55:43] on how you take care of it. The way

[2:55:44] that we move, probably

[2:55:47] 25 years , if we take care

[2:55:49] of it, we don't beat the crap out

[2:55:51] of it, we take care of it and clean

[2:55:53] it, it is

[2:55:55] all about taking care of what you

[2:55:59] got, right?

[2:56:03] we are truly blessed in being able

[2:56:04] to do this. So, we will take care

[2:56:06] of it like it is supposed to be taken

[2:56:08] care of and like it is supposed

[2:56:09] to stay.

[2:56:10] >> appreciate that. What

[2:56:11] I was looking for is, the

[2:56:12] 25 year mark or beyond, if we take

[2:56:14] care of it is what

[2:56:15] I was looking for. Because we will

[2:56:17] have to do some things over

[2:56:18] time, right? But we can at least get

[2:56:20] paid off or

[2:56:23] improve later .

[2:56:29] I want it to last out there,

[2:56:31] because it is a huge investment we

[2:56:32] are putting in, we

[2:56:33] don't want to put in another 10,000,005

[2:56:35] years from now because it's

[2:56:38] falling apart.

[2:56:39] >>

[2:56:41] it's just us making

[2:56:42] sure we have a schedule and we are

[2:56:44] taking care of it. It is on

[2:56:45] me to make sure that we have maintenance

[2:56:47] schedules taken care of, we are replacing

[2:56:48] things when they're supposed to be

[2:56:50] replaced, retaining them the way they

[2:56:52] are supposed to be maintained. Checklists

[2:56:53] and

[2:56:54] recipes, those kinds of things will

[2:56:56] be reiterated

[2:57:02] , the stuff that

[2:57:03] micah and lindsay have been on the

[2:57:05] about, so we will have to work harder

[2:57:06] at getting them all done, right? But,

[2:57:08] it is treating it like it is

[2:57:09] supposed to be treated. We hope that

[2:57:11] it lasts for

[2:57:14] 100 years, but

[2:57:15] obviously we will have to take care

[2:57:17] of it at some point.

[2:57:18] >> perfect,

[2:57:19] thank you. Just to continue thinking

[2:57:20] about quality,

[2:57:23] with every aspect, two

[2:57:26] areas quick, the root zone depth

[2:57:30] ? Obviously they wouldn't do it if

[2:57:32] they were not comfortable. What do

[2:57:34] we do on the soccer field?

[2:57:35] >> the

[2:57:36] same. 6 inches

[2:57:37] on the soccer field.

[2:57:38] >> so we are

[2:57:39] pressing our

[2:57:41] luck?

[2:57:42] >>

[2:57:46] we went thick. We went 8 inches, and

[2:57:47] I wanted 8 inches

[2:57:48] just because I wanted more stability.

[2:57:49] it is not that afforded inches is

[2:57:50] bad, it

[2:57:51] is normal for what they do on normal

[2:57:53] fields, high school fields, but

[2:57:54] I was trying to go for that little

[2:57:56] extra, so

[2:57:58] a little more security and a better

[2:57:59] foundation for us.

[2:58:05] we hire it out as far as

[2:58:10] over seeding and fertilization, so

[2:58:11] it will

[2:58:13] be taken care of, we will have a good

[2:58:14] system to keep

[2:58:17] it watered.

[2:58:19] I am not worried about the 4 inches,

[2:58:20] I was hoping for more

[2:58:22] is all.

[2:58:23] >> okay. I imagine the high-traffic areas

[2:58:26] on the soccer field

[2:58:28] are different than high-traffic areas out

[2:58:29] here, and most highest traffic will

[2:58:30] be on

[2:58:32] the dirt ,

[2:58:34] the infield.

[2:58:35] >> I'm trying to get

[2:58:40] on the leads but the mention of the

[2:58:41] board, we're talking about the backstop?

[2:58:43] so, those will stay. It will be a

[2:58:44] pony wall backstop, it will just stop

[2:58:45] the dugouts and then chain-link will

[2:58:47] take over

[2:58:49] around? I don't find out as much because

[2:58:50] you start bridging

[2:58:52] those dugouts , it gets really steamy

[2:58:55] in their. You keep it open with chain-link

[2:58:58] and the air flows through and I think

[2:58:59] they are equally as safe.

[2:59:02] >> absolutely.

[2:59:07] cmu as a better foundation makes it

[2:59:08] look a little better but

[2:59:10] it is more aesthetics than functionality.

[2:59:16] chain-link fence, they do it everywhere. There's

[2:59:17] a bunch of colleges that have

[2:59:18] it. I was okay with changing that.

[2:59:20] >> very good. Appreciate all the work,

[2:59:21] team

[2:59:23] wide, and I'm excited to see it, now.

[2:59:26] thank you.

[2:59:32] >> any public testimony on this one?

[2:59:33] go ahead.

[2:59:34] >>

[2:59:35] thank you. Very much respecting that

[2:59:38] quick work, to get to --

[2:59:41] did you say

[2:59:46] win-win? I guess I will say it. Trying

[2:59:47] to find that spot.

[2:59:49] can you go back through the lists,

[2:59:50] and

[2:59:53] flip slowly? Of

[2:59:55] changes? I am trying to catch something,

[2:59:59] I think I happen to

[3:00:01] know here, is that the first one or is there

[3:00:02] one before

[3:00:05] it? There we go. And the

[3:00:08] next one? Okay. Thank you.

[3:00:13] it makes a lot of sense, and I appreciate

[3:00:14] you walking through it the

[3:00:17] irrigation pump is

[3:00:20] primarily for show

[3:00:23] and disturbing the

[3:00:25] water, so it is not so still of water

[3:00:26] or didn't have a bigger function?

[3:00:27] in other words, removing that, what

[3:00:29] will it change?

[3:00:30] >>

[3:00:32] so, what we did is

[3:00:35] the existing

[3:00:43] water quality pond, and proposed water quality pond, we

[3:00:44] wanted to make them wet bottom ponds

[3:00:46] for anesthetic feature but at the

[3:00:47] end of it

[3:00:49] , it was $1 million just on the pond.

[3:00:50] the irrigation system and so, reevaluating,

[3:00:52] we changed the method of treatment

[3:00:53] to meet water quality parameters for

[3:00:54] batch

[3:00:55] treatment, so we had fountains in

[3:00:57] their, future fountains,

[3:01:00] with the irrigation pumping station

[3:01:02] and that drove the cost. So, still

[3:01:03] gets

[3:01:06] water quality, but

[3:01:07] it is much lower cost.

[3:01:08] >> sounds good.

[3:01:14] tell me a bit more about batch treatment.

[3:01:15] I know

[3:01:16] what we do with some other ones, but

[3:01:18] I guess

[3:01:21] --yeah, talk a

[3:01:22] bit about that.'s budget is a must

[3:01:23] the same thing. So, if the original

[3:01:24] approach

[3:01:27] was a wet bottom pond,

[3:01:31] we would have four or five feet with fountains

[3:01:33] in it for more of anesthetic

[3:01:34] feature, what we did instead is take

[3:01:36] out the wet bottom, we raised

[3:01:38] the bottom by four or five feet, so we

[3:01:39] did not excavate

[3:01:41] quite as much, and then replant native

[3:01:42] grasses in there so we

[3:01:45] have to mow

[3:01:48] once per year, low maintenance.

[3:01:49] on batch treatment, what happens is

[3:01:50] that when the storm water comes through,

[3:01:51] it holds,

[3:01:54] in our case, about

[3:01:58] four feet to six feet of water. The

[3:01:59] irrigation system would have to commit

[3:02:00] water and

[3:02:02] spangled out on the grass. The batch treatment,

[3:02:05] a valve opens from the bottom of the

[3:02:06] pond after

[3:02:07] a set period of time and lets the

[3:02:09] water flow out into the creek.

[3:02:10] so, that is where we don't have to

[3:02:12] pump it. The same

[3:02:15] goal and time period with

[3:02:19] water running off the property before

[3:02:20] it goes to the creek.

[3:02:21] >> awesome,

[3:02:22] thank you.

[3:02:24] then, the electrical, tell me a

[3:02:25] bit more about how much of a downsized.

[3:02:31] is that the one transformer for the

[3:02:33] park?

[3:02:34] >>

[3:02:35] is a great question, I'm glad you

[3:02:36] asked.

[3:02:37] they had about 2.5 million on electrical

[3:02:39] , in

[3:02:42] totality, and that excluded

[3:02:45] the 1 million for the

[3:02:46] irrigation pump station. What we ended

[3:02:48] up doing is, when we took

[3:02:51] out the irrigation pumping

[3:02:52] station, that took out how we were routing

[3:02:54] the conduit around the site and running

[3:02:57] the wires , and that changed how we

[3:02:58] were

[3:02:59] setting up our transformers, because

[3:03:00] we had 14,000 volt power coming into

[3:03:03] the site ,

[3:03:04] and we were stepping it up and stepping

[3:03:06] down on voltage. So, that reduced

[3:03:08] transformers, which, they are generally

[3:03:09] 100 grand per pop,

[3:03:12] so that reduced how we are using power

[3:03:14] and we were able to simplify things.

[3:03:15] the phasing of the project

[3:03:18] that we broke it up into one, two, three,

[3:03:22] if you all saw our plans, there were

[3:03:24] hundreds, if not thousands of exes

[3:03:27] we were crossing out.

[3:03:32] in the interim period we went back

[3:03:33] and cleaned up all the

[3:03:35] plans, we took out all the letter exes,

[3:03:36] we took all

[3:03:37] the text under that out, and we basically

[3:03:39] clarified, tremendously,

[3:03:42] because the

[3:03:45] letter exes

[3:03:46] really confused the contractors. Once

[3:03:48] we clarified that,

[3:03:51] we

[3:03:52] could see the script much more clearly, and

[3:03:54] that allowed them to say, this is what

[3:03:57] you want, and then as tony mentioned,

[3:03:58] we started

[3:03:59] redesigning the electrical system

[3:04:00] at about noon on friday, and we finished

[3:04:03] around 2:00 on sunday, and

[3:04:06] send

[3:04:07] that to the contractor, you got it,

[3:04:09] they started praising it, and

[3:04:10] by monday, around 10:00 a.m., we had

[3:04:12] a price

[3:04:20] .

[3:04:21] >> and that was a reduction of how

[3:04:22] much?

[3:04:23] >> about 1.3

[3:04:24] million.

[3:04:25] >> those were the two big

[3:04:26] ones. Just looking at the list quickly,

[3:04:27] it seems

[3:04:28] like those are the two.

[3:04:29] >> yeah. One

[3:04:30] thing the contractor did pass on

[3:04:31] is, when they were getting their fresh

[3:04:32] quotes from contractors, tony and

[3:04:33] I both

[3:04:35] said hey, we got to have this by 11:00

[3:04:36] a.m. 11:00 I am,

[3:04:38] you hear me? And so, he was getting

[3:04:39] quotes in and he sent his first

[3:04:40] quote from the illogical setups, on

[3:04:42] the west coast

[3:04:45] --pardon

[3:04:46] me, they were on the east coast and

[3:04:48] west coast hadn't woken up yet because

[3:04:49] they

[3:04:50] were two hours behind, so the first

[3:04:51] quote was like 700,000,

[3:04:54] but after two hours, he was saying,

[3:04:57] they had been talking to each

[3:04:59] other and saying they were bidding

[3:05:00] and that came

[3:05:03] down to 400. Nothing changed,

[3:05:08] they were just using tariffs and just

[3:05:09] doing business, trying

[3:05:10] to push the numbers as high as they

[3:05:12] can, but as soon as they find out

[3:05:13] that they have competition, that drives

[3:05:15] the price down. So, there was a lot

[3:05:16] of

[3:05:17] that going on. It is common for the

[3:05:18] speed of the project,

[3:05:20] and the fact we were able to work

[3:05:21] in an open

[3:05:24] dialogue with contractor, and we were

[3:05:27] able to

[3:05:31] project based on our personality we would

[3:05:33] be firm, but fair, we want quality

[3:05:34] and

[3:05:35] we will not compromise that. But,

[3:05:36] we need an open dialogue to have a

[3:05:37] successful

[3:05:38] project. So, there is a lot of nonverbal's

[3:05:39] with good teamwork

[3:05:41] and I believe we have a really good

[3:05:42] team

[3:05:45] and contractor.

[3:05:48] >> vilsack

[3:05:51] thank you.

[3:05:53] >> you all did an amazing amount of

[3:05:54] work. So, hats off,

[3:06:00] I know where

[3:06:01] that bid started and what you were

[3:06:03] able to get to, working for the weekend,

[3:06:04] that's awesome. I am struggling with

[3:06:06] the cost, just in general.

[3:06:09] so, we're looking

[3:06:12] at 800,000 in debt servicing.

[3:06:15] do you have some general projections on

[3:06:18] revenue from field

[3:06:19] rentals, from tournaments, from any

[3:06:21] of that,

[3:06:24] for phase

[3:06:27] one?

[3:06:28] >> phase one, I have

[3:06:30] done some preliminary,

[3:06:33] with a total of 24

[3:06:38] tenants per year. What I did from

[3:06:39] that is, you know, we

[3:06:42] have concessions

[3:06:44] , somebody is running I have us running

[3:06:45] concessions 100%. And then

[3:06:48] we get

[3:06:51] late fees at 20%, we get a parking,

[3:06:52] 20%.

[3:06:53] concession stands , if somebody else

[3:06:54] runs it, at

[3:06:56] 20%. I have run multiple numbers, and

[3:07:00] I appreciate the question, because

[3:07:01] I finally get to

[3:07:02] actually talk about these numbers. So,

[3:07:03] just on

[3:07:08] the eight fields for softball on a

[3:07:09] revenue basis, we have

[3:07:12] eight fields, per our fee

[3:07:14] schedules, $500 per day to rent, there's

[3:07:15] eight of them, times two

[3:07:18] days, that's

[3:07:21] a

[3:07:23] grand. We line the seals for two days

[3:07:24] is $480.

[3:07:30] this is where it gets kind of confusing

[3:07:31] in some

[3:07:32] aspects, because you have to understand

[3:07:33] where the numbers come from. So

[3:07:35] on the eight fields for softball you

[3:07:36] can run 56 teams in

[3:07:39] the weekend. So, saturday sunday tournament

[3:07:40] you could run 56

[3:07:42] teams. Well, there's different ways

[3:07:43] of doing it,

[3:07:44] so, the numbers I am using for this

[3:07:45] comes straight from

[3:07:50] the sports field management association.

[3:07:52] I did not want

[3:07:55] to use

[3:07:58] --obviously I'm not

[3:07:59] just pulling numbers out of my hat,

[3:08:00] I use the book that everybody uses

[3:08:02] two project where we are going. It's

[3:08:03] the sports field management association.

[3:08:04] they do it

[3:08:06] as this, the city shares the gate,

[3:08:07] so 56 teams

[3:08:10] on average with

[3:08:13] 15 spectators per team,

[3:08:16] so they times that out,

[3:08:17] 15 spectators and then the gate fee is

[3:08:19] $10, and then you have two days

[3:08:21] and we get 20% of that, so that is

[3:08:28] 3360 docs.

[3:08:32] 3360, and then the same thing with

[3:08:34] the parking lot.

[3:08:37] they say on average it is

[3:08:38] $10 per team for 56?10, times five

[3:08:40] dollars for cars

[3:08:43] to park, two days, we get 20%

[3:08:45] of that, that is 1120. And then we

[3:08:46] share

[3:08:48] the concession stand. Now, you take

[3:08:49] the same

[3:08:52] amount of spectators, 56?15, and then

[3:08:55] multiply that by five,

[3:08:57] because the average spent per person is

[3:09:00] five dollars, that is what they are using,

[3:09:04] over two days, times 20%, we

[3:09:07] will get $1680,

[3:09:10] if

[3:09:11] we split the concession stand. The

[3:09:12] total intake for attornment on a two

[3:09:13] day tournament

[3:09:16] is $16,240.

[3:09:20] that is somebody else running concession

[3:09:22] stands, doing the gate

[3:09:23] fees and all of that. And running

[3:09:24] the retirement. For the soccer fields,

[3:09:25] four rentals,

[3:09:28] 500 bucks,

[3:09:30] per field, times two, that's 4000.

[3:09:31] lights

[3:09:34] are 400.

[3:09:37] lining the field is 240. The

[3:09:38] same aspect, not changing from 56 teams,

[3:09:40] to when you have

[3:09:42] four fields, you can do 28 teams because

[3:09:43] of the hours

[3:09:46] of the day. 28

[3:09:47] teams you can handle with four fields, times

[3:09:48] the same 15 spectators, times 10,

[3:09:49] that

[3:09:52] is 1620

[3:09:54] , and then the same for the parking,

[3:09:55] it

[3:09:58] is $560.

[3:10:02] if we did the concession stand it's

[3:10:04] only 840. So, on the soccer side,

[3:10:07] we make $7660. So, if you take

[3:10:10] those and you do the

[3:10:13] 16,240?12,

[3:10:18] and sacraments, that's 194,008 80

[3:10:22] . And if you did the soccer,

[3:10:25] it is 91,920. A

[3:10:28] total of

[3:10:31] 286,800,

[3:10:33] running per year splitting concession

[3:10:37] stands with everyone else. That is not

[3:10:40] us running 100%.

[3:10:41] >>

[3:10:42] and that is just for tournaments?

[3:10:43] >>

[3:10:46] that is 12 weekends in a

[3:10:49] 52-week year.

[3:10:50] just 12 weekends. I was being conservative

[3:10:52] but I hope to run

[3:10:55] more.

[3:10:56] >>

[3:10:57] normal field rental, what is that

[3:10:58] for the softball

[3:10:59] field specifically?

[3:11:00] >> well, anything over

[3:11:04] six hours is a full day, so that's

[3:11:05] $500

[3:11:06] but if not it's $75 per hour. On average

[3:11:07] we get

[3:11:10] right now,

[3:11:16] it's almost all day

[3:11:18] on a saturday or sunday. It's almost the

[3:11:19] exact same amount of money that

[3:11:21] we are doing right now. The only difference

[3:11:22] is that we give a

[3:11:24] cost break for hyd essay to use it,

[3:11:25] and then capital city

[3:11:28] uses it

[3:11:31] .

[3:11:32] >>

[3:11:33] okay. I know we don't have it tonight,

[3:11:34] but not just for phase one, but

[3:11:35] phase two and three, because of the

[3:11:37] master plan,

[3:11:39] is fantastic, but understanding the

[3:11:43] revenue and expenses all the way

[3:11:46] down to the batting cages that

[3:11:48] we can rent, we have knuckleball courses

[3:11:49] we

[3:11:52] can rent.

[3:11:54] with what the revenue and expenses

[3:11:55] are,

[3:11:58] to put

[3:12:01] together a big picture,

[3:12:07] but I think I heard

[3:12:09] all in, we are looking at 286 dollars

[3:12:13] .

[3:12:15] >> if we split it. If we take 100%

[3:12:16] changes the numbers. So, if we don't

[3:12:17] split any concession stand, we don't

[3:12:19] split the gate with parking, it changes

[3:12:20] it.

[3:12:22] >> okay.

[3:12:28] we are still not

[3:12:29] half of what the overall debt service

[3:12:31] is projected to be?

[3:12:32] >> correct. >>

[3:12:33] okay.

[3:12:34] I am still struggling there. I

[3:12:37] am hoping , I would like

[3:12:40] to get the big picture,

[3:12:43] especially as we look towards

[3:12:45] future budgets and future phases,

[3:12:46] that kind of stuff. But

[3:12:47] I do appreciate all the hard work that

[3:12:49] you and the team have done to get

[3:12:50] us

[3:12:52] to a better place, but,

[3:12:54] I think that for me, it is still quite

[3:12:55] a bit

[3:12:58] more than

[3:13:00] what we were originally going into.

[3:13:01] thank you.

[3:13:02] >> you bet.

[3:13:04] >>

[3:13:07] , just ask a quick question. That is

[3:13:13] 16,000 on a

[3:13:15] two day, on the baseball side, with

[3:13:16] eight fields?

[3:13:17] >> yes,

[3:13:18] sir.

[3:13:19] >> thanks. And then a question

[3:13:20] to mike,

[3:13:22] I think, the

[3:13:25] item tonight , is it

[3:13:28] impacted

[3:13:36] --the funding sources in the presentation

[3:13:37] is the plan, but the item tonight

[3:13:38] is

[3:13:39] related to contract. So if we change

[3:13:40] funding sources or the

[3:13:43] amount --

[3:13:46] if we change funding sources that

[3:13:47] would not be

[3:13:48] impacted by our decision tonight,

[3:13:49] right?

[3:13:50] >> that is correct.

[3:13:52] tony, can you go to that

[3:13:55] slide?

[3:13:56] >> yes, sir. >> this is

[3:13:58] how we have put together the funding

[3:14:01] based on

[3:14:04] what we already had available for

[3:14:05] the project, and

[3:14:07] knowing what that gap was.

[3:14:10] counsel in july past a

[3:14:13] reimbursement resolution,

[3:14:18] so you have taken a step already to

[3:14:19] say that any expenses we incur are

[3:14:21] going to be reimbursed from this proposed

[3:14:22] seo, but you have not taken any

[3:14:25] actions to issue a proposed seo.

[3:14:31] it has been

[3:14:32] talked about with the budget process,

[3:14:34] you might remember it was originally

[3:14:35] 2025 seo and

[3:14:37] then a 2026 seo . Based on the timing

[3:14:38] of

[3:14:39] how this will work out we are just

[3:14:40] proposing to do one 2026 seo

[3:14:42] in the spring, and the number we have

[3:14:43] been telling you since the april presentation

[3:14:44] on

[3:14:46] the sports complex was about

[3:14:51] 8.25 million. That is the number we

[3:14:52] have been carrying. Does that answer

[3:14:54] your question?

[3:14:55] >> I just want to make

[3:14:56] sure that we understand,

[3:14:58] this number that I gave you, the 286 is

[3:15:01] just running tenants. This does not

[3:15:02] include

[3:15:05] weekly rentals ,

[3:15:06] for field rentals monday through friday.

[3:15:08] which I will

[3:15:11] have next.

[3:15:14] >>

[3:15:15] good point, and I am glad we had that

[3:15:17] conversation to break it down

[3:15:18] that way, but it also doesn't include

[3:15:20] hotel stays, restaurants,

[3:15:23] all the other things , the

[3:15:26] intangibles that ,

[3:15:28] there are ways to try to figure it

[3:15:31] out, but it is hard, even with the

[3:15:36] netting and self and tabulation to find

[3:15:38] out where people go and ask

[3:15:39] for hotels, who is staying where,

[3:15:40] it brings people to buda, and it is

[3:15:41] going

[3:15:44] to bring people to buda ,

[3:15:47] which has carry-on

[3:15:48] effects of retail sales tax across

[3:15:50] the board

[3:15:51] . Do we have any public testimony

[3:15:53] on this item?

[3:16:03] thank you. Working over the weekend

[3:16:05] doing your thing, I know you're

[3:16:06] passionate about this, and this is

[3:16:07] your project, but we appreciate the

[3:16:08] energy

[3:16:09] and the work that went into getting

[3:16:11] us here.

[3:16:14] because, we

[3:16:16] were a little defeated not too long ago

[3:16:17] , and now we

[3:16:19] have options in front of us. So I

[3:16:20] appreciate

[3:16:22] that energy and that effort. Does

[3:16:23] anyone

[3:16:25] want to make this motion?

[3:16:26] >> mayor,

[3:16:27] if

[3:16:29] I could, can you go to the slide that

[3:16:32] shows the costs.

[3:16:35] just as a reminder, there is

[3:16:37] a basement with alternatives, so you

[3:16:38] can award

[3:16:40] base bid with certain alternatives

[3:16:41] for all

[3:16:44] of them.

[3:16:47] we have a contingency built into

[3:16:48] this, so that is something counsel

[3:16:50] wants to authorize as well, a contingency of

[3:16:53] 3% or 5% or if you want

[3:16:54] to come back to city council, that

[3:16:56] is at your discretion, is 20 mentioned that

[3:16:59] this 14.98 million does not have a

[3:17:02] contingency built into it.

[3:17:05] >> there are

[3:17:08] two parts to the contingency,

[3:17:11] you are saying the funding is

[3:17:13] not there but you still have the authorization

[3:17:14] as manager to approve a number above

[3:17:16] the contract, but you are saying there

[3:17:17] is no

[3:17:19] funding available?

[3:17:20] >> there is proposed

[3:17:21] funding, based

[3:17:23] on the

[3:17:25] proposed issuance of 11.25 million,

[3:17:26] we

[3:17:28] have treated projects where counsel has

[3:17:32] issued a not to exceed amount, so

[3:17:33] unless

[3:17:34] counsel authorizes the city manager to

[3:17:38] approve some change orders,

[3:17:43] every change order would come back

[3:17:44] to council put a

[3:17:45] lot of our construction contract have

[3:17:47] a contingency of, depending on

[3:17:50] the amount, 3% or 5%, I can review

[3:17:53] those review those with staff

[3:17:58] , but if you just approve the base

[3:17:59] bid without any contingency, any change

[3:18:01] order would come back to counsel.

[3:18:02] >> good clarification.

[3:18:08] mr. Smith, were you ready

[3:18:09] for something?

[3:18:10] >> I was preparing

[3:18:11] a motion until that last comment.

[3:18:12] I understand the

[3:18:14] flux ability that allows, but given

[3:18:17] how far we have come and where we

[3:18:20] are today, I wouldn't mind authorizing

[3:18:23] what we have in front of us

[3:18:26] and fit with no change orders.

[3:18:29] maybe what we have to do is a

[3:18:32] number of them at a time.

[3:18:41] I think this is being engineered as

[3:18:43] far as it possibly can and be planned

[3:18:44] out as far as it possibly can.

[3:18:45] I know there will always be changes,

[3:18:47] there will be unknowns, there needs

[3:18:48] to

[3:18:49] be a contingency there, but I think

[3:18:50] that we

[3:18:52] address that as it comes in our primary

[3:18:53] goal is to

[3:18:55] get this straight on. So with that,

[3:18:59] I will motion to approve

[3:19:05] , to award rf p number

[3:19:11] 25-255 sportsplex as presented, up

[3:19:12] to the

[3:19:14] dollar amount in the item, which

[3:19:17] is the total proposal

[3:19:23] .

[3:19:24] >> I have

[3:19:25] a question.

[3:19:26] >> for the discussion.

[3:19:29] miss williams?

[3:19:30] >>

[3:19:31] on other things to keep in mind is

[3:19:32] the timeline

[3:19:35] . We only have so many

[3:19:37] days to get this done, and bring this

[3:19:38] back to counsel

[3:19:43] on the change order is not going to

[3:19:44] be efficient, that we will end up

[3:19:46] being behind schedule. So one of the

[3:19:47] things to think about is to

[3:19:48] authorize the city manager to hit

[3:19:49] change orders that do not exceed the

[3:19:50] state required a maximum

[3:19:53] of 25%. Then when we are done and they

[3:19:54] can move

[3:19:55] this project through as quickly as

[3:19:56] possible. Because time is money in

[3:19:59] this instance.

[3:20:00] >> I have a

[3:20:02] question, as well.

[3:20:05] do we need to include

[3:20:08] the lighting, so it needs to be 15

[3:20:14] --now?

[3:20:15] >> there will be a separate

[3:20:16] action, to counsel for the lighting

[3:20:17] in a future meeting.

[3:20:20] >> valid point.

[3:20:29] >> I am up

[3:20:32] for an amendment,

[3:20:35] on this one, I feel like if we are

[3:20:36] going to stand firm

[3:20:37] on any project, this is one. They

[3:20:38] give us a timeline,

[3:20:44] down to the dollar, and if they have

[3:20:45] to come

[3:20:46] back for a change they are making,

[3:20:51] --

[3:20:52] >>

[3:20:53] that is not the change order. Change

[3:20:54] order is a change that we are making,

[3:20:56] unless there is an unknown. If there

[3:20:57] is no contingency

[3:20:58] and they get out there and they start

[3:21:00] working and something happens

[3:21:06] , or there is something in the

[3:21:07] ground that they didn't know was there,

[3:21:08] then that means they have to stop

[3:21:10] work, wait to get on the agenda for

[3:21:11] counsel, comebacks, and he has already

[3:21:12] given away

[3:21:13] all of our ld days, 50 days, and how

[3:21:15] much per day

[3:21:18] was that?

[3:21:19] >> 2000. >> yeah. So,

[3:21:21] we don't want to

[3:21:22] give away more days, because they

[3:21:24] have to wait to come back to us,

[3:21:25] when the city manager can easily resolve

[3:21:27] the matter.

[3:21:36] now, if you want to set

[3:21:37] it and say, only 10%, I am cool with

[3:21:39] that, right? But we

[3:21:40] want to make sure that we are not paying

[3:21:42] for the inefficiency of waiting for it

[3:21:43] to come back for counsel, for us to

[3:21:44] have to make that decision on the

[3:21:46] change order.

[3:21:47] >> okay. I hear you.

[3:21:48] I didn't mention this earlier, but

[3:21:49] there is

[3:21:51] the design factor. 15%, we

[3:21:53] went to 16 and all of a sudden it

[3:21:54] 21.6. I am

[3:21:57] hoping the 1.6 is worth

[3:21:58] it and there aren't any unknowns.

[3:22:00] with other

[3:22:03] projects when there are

[3:22:04] lives at stake and buildings and that

[3:22:06] kind of stuff, I get it.

[3:22:08] this is pretty plain jane out there.

[3:22:12] 1.6 to design a field and

[3:22:15] softball field, you

[3:22:18] know, my patience for that

[3:22:21] --but I hear you, as far as not wanting

[3:22:22] to

[3:22:24] delay the project, as well. So,

[3:22:27] let me ask the city

[3:22:30] manager down there,

[3:22:32] how tight can we make that, to where

[3:22:33] you will not lose

[3:22:36] sleep over it

[3:22:39] ? 10%?

[3:22:40] >> if you make it

[3:22:41] 14.9, then it will be 14.9 , and we

[3:22:42] will work within

[3:22:45] the confines of that , and something

[3:22:46] comes

[3:22:47] up we will bring it to you and there

[3:22:48] will be some delays. If you

[3:22:51] do a 3%, I think that is about

[3:22:54] $500,000, that is a good amount to get

[3:22:56] started on. I would recommend 10%

[3:23:00] ,

[3:23:03] if we don't have the budget

[3:23:06] >> okay, so building and 3.5? Okay.

[3:23:09] I hear you completely and I

[3:23:10] don't want to slow down unnecessarily, but

[3:23:12] at some point in time, we have to

[3:23:15] hold these plans, and

[3:23:21] one of these days, we will

[3:23:22] hit what we plan on the money. That

[3:23:24] is why we spend the money to

[3:23:25] planet upfront, right? If we can do

[3:23:27] it I feel like this is the project

[3:23:29] to do it on. With that, I will amend

[3:23:30] the motion to include the 3%

[3:23:31] contingency. As well. And to confirm,

[3:23:33] it is the 14.98 and change. Thank

[3:23:35] you.

[3:23:36] >> all right, we have a motion

[3:23:37] and a second.

[3:23:39] are we good?

[3:23:42] all those in favor?

[3:23:45] any opposed? Motion carries.

[3:23:51] congratulations.

[3:23:56] >> thank you all very much. >> k5

[3:23:57] is deliberation of possible action

[3:23:58] to accept the resignation and appointed

[3:24:00] the 2025 members on the city's boards,

[3:24:03] commissions, and committees

[3:24:06] , arts commission, main street advisory

[3:24:07] board,

[3:24:09] and planning and zoning

[3:24:12] commission.

[3:24:14] miss ramirez?

[3:24:15] >> yes, mayor. The nominations committee

[3:24:16] met last week, and we have

[3:24:17] filled all the vacancies to date.

[3:24:18] we did have an additional

[3:24:21] one on the arts commission

[3:24:23] which opened up another vacancy. So,

[3:24:24] the nominations are as follows.

[3:24:27] for arts commission, yvette

[3:24:29] hurst. For main street advisory board,

[3:24:30] ellen cates and

[3:24:33] erika wasik goes.

[3:24:36] and for planning and zoning, valerie moya

[3:24:38] >> thank you. Anything from our committee

[3:24:42] ? Questions or comments?

[3:24:43] >> what was that last appointment?

[3:24:45] >> lori moya

[3:24:48] to planning and zoning.

[3:24:49] >> thank you.

[3:24:51] >> questions or comments?

[3:24:54] >> real quick, who rolled

[3:24:57] off arts , do you know? Whose term

[3:25:00] ended?

[3:25:01] >> it didn't end, he resigned.

[3:25:03] steve mccord.

[3:25:04] >> okay.

[3:25:06] thank you.

[3:25:09] >>

[3:25:12] just as a really quick note,

[3:25:15] the applications that we reviewed

[3:25:21] , the nominations

[3:25:23] committee had a lot of people that

[3:25:24] were interested in a lot of the same

[3:25:26] boards and commissions , and being

[3:25:27] able to balance

[3:25:30] out folks who live

[3:25:33] in the

[3:25:36] number that

[3:25:38] can be added to the board or commission

[3:25:39] was quite the process to get

[3:25:41] through, so, the final result that

[3:25:42] was presented tonight has really

[3:25:45] been thoughtfully selected

[3:25:48] . We did interviews last time, just

[3:25:51] to make sure that we had good fits

[3:25:53] , so we have done due diligence, and

[3:25:54] hope that you guys would

[3:25:57] be accepting of the candidates that

[3:25:58] we put forward.

[3:25:59] >>

[3:26:00] thank you.

[3:26:03] >> exactly

[3:26:05] what I was asking for. Comments from

[3:26:06] the committee. I appreciate the time

[3:26:09] --I know you

[3:26:11] did interviews, we are taking steps

[3:26:12] further than we did in the past, but,

[3:26:13] that

[3:26:15] is good. It is a good thing

[3:26:18] you do.

[3:26:21] public testimony on this item? I

[3:26:23] will make a motion that we accept the

[3:26:24] resignations and the appointments

[3:26:26] as presented in k5.

[3:26:27] >> second. >>

[3:26:28] motion and a second. All

[3:26:30] those in favor? Any opposed?

[3:26:33] motion carries. That brings

[3:26:36] us into l1. Council will recess

[3:26:40] regular session and convene into

[3:26:43] executive session

[3:26:44] to deliberate on agenda items pursuant

[3:26:45] to texas government code chapter 551,

[3:26:49] section 551.071, consultation

[3:26:50] with city attorney regarding her a,

[3:26:53] hayes commons proposed development,

[3:26:55] and b,

[3:27:01] section 551.087,

[3:27:02] deliberation regarding economic development

[3:27:03] negotiations regarding performance

[3:27:04] agreement negotiations, performance

[3:27:10] agreement

[3:27:11] obligations for project feathered

[3:27:12] flames, project san antonio, and project

[3:27:13] leather boots. With that, we

[3:27:15] will get into executive session at 9:57.

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