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I would like to call this meeting of the
Camrio City Council and Camaro Sanitary
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District of April 8th, 2026 to order.
Would our city clerk please call the
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role?
>> Council member Santangelo
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» here.
>> Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo
[0:35]
» here.
>> Council member Kildy
[0:37]
» here. Council member Trembley
>> here.
[0:40]
» Mayor Tennyson
>> here. We have a close session item and
[0:44]
if the city attorney would read the
item,
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» I would be appreciative.
>> Uh, thank you, mayor and council. We
[0:49]
have one item on close session, the OPV
Coalition versus Fox Canyon Groundwater
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Management, pursuant to Government Code
section 54956.9D1.
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And if there's any reportable action,
I'll make that report.
[1:03]
» Thank you. And with that, we will we we
will recess to close session and be back
[1:07]
at 5:00 him.
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We will reconvene the Camrio City
Council meeting, Camrio Sanitary
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District meeting of April 8th, 2026.
And I would like the record to reflect
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that all council members are still
present. None of them ran away.
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Um, I'm going to ask Mr. Trembley to
lead us in the pledge.
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» Would you please join me in the
>> Pledge of Allegiance to the flag?
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» I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» Thank you, Mr. Mr. Trembley,
are there any changes to this evening's
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agenda?
Seeing none, we will move on. We have a
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presentation tonight from the CEO of the
Museum of Ventura County, Elena Brokaw.
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But before she steps up and talks, I'd
also like to recognize board members
[33:27]
from the Museum of Ventura County, Mr.
Jim Scanland. Welcome. Uh, Mr. David
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Fukatomi, a member of a longtime
Fukatomi family here in Camrio and his
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eminence, the president ameritus of
California State University, Channel
[33:45]
Islands, Dr. Richard Rush. So, welcome
Elena. Please come forward. The time is
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yours.
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» Thank you so much, Mayor, Vice Mayor,
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» uh,
>> No, there it is. Mayor, Vice Mayor, all
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council members, city manager, city
staff, everybody at home. Thank you so
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much for allowing us to come here to
present tonight. As the mayor said, my
[34:10]
name is Elena Broka. I'm the Barbara
Barnard Smith CEO of the Museum of
[34:14]
Ventura County, and I'm here to share a
little bit of uh what we do with you.
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So, for those of you who don't know, we
are an art, history, and culture museum.
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We were founded over a hundred years
ago. We have uh four sites, two in
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downtown Ventura, one in Santa Paula,
and newly an office suite here in Camaro
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about a mile, mile and a half from here.
We are guided by the wisdom of our
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incredible board of directors. Thank
you, mayor, for introducing the three
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Camaro Rio residents who are here
tonight. Uh Dr. Rush, uh David Fukatomi,
[34:49]
and Jim Scanlin. We also have over a
hundred voluntary adviserss. These
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people are from all over the county and
they are the ones who guide the museum
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and all that it does. So that's who we
are. Here's what we do. We collect our
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artifacts
and archives in order to guard the
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unique identity of our region, the
region of Ventura County.
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Um for uh our goal here is to make
everything as available as possible. I
[35:19]
just want to point out this. This is a
site on our library and archives where
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you can go and look up digitized files.
Seven years ago, we had zero things
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digitized. Now we have over 8,000. We
use those collections to create exhibits
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in our six galleries that we have across
the county. We have rotating exhibits
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there. Um we our goal is to bring as
many people as possible and to that end
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we have made the museum entirely free.
We're able to do that through
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sponsorships, which is almost quadrupled
our attendance at all of our sites. And
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this is who comes to the museum. We have
about twothirds of our attendance from
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Ventura County and then about 25% from
other places in the state and 8% from
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outside of the state, including
international visitors. We're an
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educational institution. Education is
very important to what we do. We provide
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school tours free for all Title One
schools for second and third graders. We
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have bus subsidies. We've realized that
that is one of the biggest barriers to
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getting kids to our site. So, with a
recent grant, we are now able to provide
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free busing for every Title One school
who wants to come. Um, we're very, very
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thankful to a grant that we got a few
years ago, which created a paid
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internship program starting with
students here from Cal State University,
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Channel Islands. Many thanks to the
president, Emmeritus, for helping us
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with that. All of those interns are paid
a living wage, which right now is $204
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an hour. Our goal is to get students who
have to work in to do something that's
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going to be a career pathway for them.
And this is where we are doing our
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education and engagement. This
represents where we have tours, where we
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have interns coming from, where we have
scholarships, and as you can see, it's
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all over the county. So these
collections uh exhibits programs and
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education all serve the museum's
foundational principles which are these.
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Our mission is to engage participants in
meaningful experiences and our vision is
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to build community and connection.
And one of the ways that we build that
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connection is to highlight our shared
history. And to that end, tonight I
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would like to use our collections to
help all of us understand the city of
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Camaro, how who it was, and why it came
to be the way that it is today. So
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before we begin with my little history
lesson, I'd like to say that everything
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that I'm sharing with you comes from the
museum's archives, the library, and the
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publications. All the photos are from
our collection. So I'm going to start
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with a little short history. This will
be really quick. Um, we all learned this
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like in fourth grade, but I don't know
about you, that was a while ago for me,
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so I think we need a refresher. Since
pre-recorded history, this has been the
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home to indigenous uh people. Here it's
the Chumash. There were at least three
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Chumash villages here in what is now
Camaro. In 1542, a sailor named Cababrio
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came here, visited the coastline,
coastline. Yeah. coastline and took this
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whole region including Mexico and all of
California up into Oregon and further
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east as a part a new colony of Spain. In
1769
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the missions began to be erected here in
California and Spain began to colonize
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this area. In 1824,
the Mexican people revolted against
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Spain and miraculously they won just
like the revolution over on the other
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side of the country. It was incredible.
So from 1824 until 1848 where we are
[38:55]
standing right now, we were in the
country of Mexico. In 1848 there was
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another war with the United States. The
United States won that time. We became
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part of the United States which we
remain today. And in 1850, we became a
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state. Okay, no test on that, but that's
a little bit of history to kind of There
[39:13]
you go. Mayor's got it. To kind of
establish where we are in time.
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So when Mexico had governance of this
area, they were very e eager to populate
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the region because they didn't want it
to be taken from them. There were
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English, there were French, there were
Russians, all who wanted this territory.
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And one of the ways that they did that,
they lured people to come here is they
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provided ranchos, these large land
grants. So the Mexican governor,
[39:40]
California governor rather, who was uh
appointed by the president of Mexico,
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would award land grants to people. They
could be soldiers who'd done something
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great. They could be, you know, somebody
who had married their nephew, whatever,
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or niece rather it. Yeah. Because there
were no women who were rancheros. Sorry,
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there was one. Uh so 19 ranchos were
established in Ventura County and they
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roughly correspond to the cities that we
have today. Can you all see that on your
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screens? You can probably see it a
little bit better, but you can see it
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there. And most of the Here's the
ranchos, the 19 ranchos. They're huge.
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Most of the cities are much smaller than
the original ranchos were. And part of
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the reason for that is that in the
1860s7s and 80s almost all of the
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ranchos were sold and almost all of the
new owners subdivided them and sold them
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off into small lots. So you had one
ranchera who owned let's say 50,000
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acres that was all turned into little
100 acre lots and then you had first
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tens and then scores and then hundreds
and then thousands of owners in a spot
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that had been owned by one person. But
that is not the case in one rancho and
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that rancho is Rancho Kayagus and we're
standing right now on what was Rancho
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Kayagus. In 1837 the California governor
granted 10,000 acres to Jose Pedro Ruiz
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and that was Rancho Cayas and now mo
most of that rancho is the city of
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Camaro as you can see. So what happened
here? Why is Camaro actually larger?
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It's 50% larger than it was when it was
Rancho Cayas as opposed to all the other
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cities. There are a lot of things that
led to that, but one critical factor is
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who bought Rancho Cayas from Jose Pedro
Ruiz. And that person was a Mexican
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immigrant named Juan Camaro. So Juan
Camaro had come up from Mexico City in
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1834. He was on a specific expedition
filled with teachers to educate the new
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kids that were being born in this newly
populated area. When he came up here, he
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became very wealthy because he did not
become a teacher. Spoiler alert. Uh he
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became a merchant. He had stores in
Santa Barbara and in Ventura. And by
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1875, he was ready to expand his
holdings. And he purchased Rancho Gyas
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from the family of Don of Jose Pedro
Ruiz. That family had used the rancho to
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raise livestock as almost all the
ranchos did. But extreme weather events
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in the 1860s ended the livestock
industry in Ventura County and the
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rancheros had to sell their property. So
in 1875, the Ruiz family sold 10,000
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acres to Juan Ramirez for $3,000, which
by the way is worth about $81,000
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now. And that was pretty much the going
rate that they were going for. Juan Crio
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did not have long to appreciate his new
purchase. He bought it in 1875. He died
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in 1880, leaving the management to his
16-year-old son, Adulo Camaro.
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Adulo co-owned, managed, and lived on
the rancho from 1880 until his death in
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1958, which is almost 80 years. He used
it to grow dry crops. He grew wheat,
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barley, limema beans. Here he is in the
middle finding a new artisian well on
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his property. Uh by 1909, the LA Times
wrote that Rancho Kayagus was the
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largest bean ranch in the world. It was
very successful. In 1892, he was able to
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build what came what has come to be
known as the Camrio Ranch House for his
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growing family. By all accounts, Adulo
and his brother Juan were extremely
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generous and benevolent employers, land
owners, etc. They donated hundreds of
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acres of property, for roads, for
schools, for churches, uh for the
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railroad, and for much more.
And their solo ownership of this huge
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piece of property, 10,000 piece acre
piece of property, meant that they
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controlled who moved there. So people
were moving into the land right around
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it. Like Springville was not part of
Rancho Cayas and so homesteaders were
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moving in there and there were some
people around the edges but nobody was
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moving on to the rancho unless they were
employers or family members of Adulo
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Juan and his family. And you can see
they managed all the growth and they
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liked it like that. So you can see that
from this postcard that we have. This is
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a postcard from Camaro spelled karmo. I
just noticed that in 1927.
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This is downtown Camaro. Now, let's
compare this to this photo downtown in
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1905.
Over 20 years earlier, anybody want to
[44:38]
guess what city this is? This teeming
metropolis.
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» Sopa.
>> Santa.
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» Santa Paula.
>> Santa Paula.
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» Santa Paula. There you go.
Uh so it was not until Adulo Camaro died
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in 1958 that the community really grew.
Two years after his death, the chamber
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of commerce formed an incorporation
committee and in 19 Well, you know, it's
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all over, right? In 1964,
Camaro was incorporated and then it
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starts taking off. So I'm going to skip
through. I hope to talk a little bit
[45:08]
more, but I'm not going to be able to
talk about this. This is a population
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chart starts in 1910 before we have any
census data for Camaro, but it shows how
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the cities grow. And I want you to sort
of watch Camaro, which is right here now
[45:22]
cuz we're talking to you. See how it
goes up and down. And you'll start you
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see the numbers start to get there in
about the mid60s.
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So Ventura's largest, Oxnard, and then
whoop, Santa Paula overtakes Oxnard,
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which always blows everybody's mind.
Oxnard goes up there to the top and
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stays there. Here we go. Camaro starts
growing.
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Now it goes really fast. I'm going to
share this power. You already have the
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PowerPoint so you can actually watch it
on your own. But if you go back and look
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at it between 1970 and 1980, Camaro
grows by 350% that decade. And uh
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relatively Oxnard less than doubles. So
that 1970 1980 just been incorporated.
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It had not grown at all. That is when
everything happens and that is what
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creates the type of city that you have
today. So I want to be very clear that
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this is only one piece of the puzzle
that went into creating this city that
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you call Camaro. There are other people
that established Camaro. I talked about
[46:21]
the homesteaders around the country that
around the borders of the Rancho
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Kayagas. There are other events that
happen. You're very lucky here in this
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town. You have other historical
associations. They have also collected
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history. the Pleasant Valley Historical
Society, the Camrio Ranch House
[46:36]
Foundation, they also have source
materials that can tell even more of
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this story and tell other aspects of
this story. Um, I do want to say that we
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share their goal to protect and preserve
these records, these artifacts, um,
[46:51]
these uh, archives, and our hope is to
complement what they have with what we
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have. I'm really happy and proud to be
able to share that the Camrio Ranch
[47:00]
House Foundation and the Museum of
Ventura County are in conversations to
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accession some of their archives in
order to protect them and get them into
[47:09]
climate controlled environment in order
to make sure that they are here in the
[47:13]
future. So, in closing, I want to thank
you for letting me tell this story, talk
[47:18]
about who the museum is, and I do want
to say I have an ask.
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So, I've talked about, you know, the
history over a past 175 years. One thing
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I hope we take away is that it wasn't
always this way, and it won't always be
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this way. It's going to look very
different. You were incorporated 60
[47:35]
years ago. And our goal is to collect
our history now so that 60 years from
[47:39]
now, none of us is going to be here. But
somebody will be wondering what happened
[47:43]
to create the community that we know
then. And our goal is to gather that and
[47:48]
protect it. So I have a few requests
that I would like to make of you which
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is to help us identify oral history
participants to help us identify
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partners who can both share their
history with us and help us expand the
[48:03]
storytelling that we are able to do. So
this is our ask to you to help us
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connect the past, present and future. We
would love to partner with you formally,
[48:12]
informally, whatever it might be to help
share the story of our of this city and
[48:18]
of our entire region. And that's it.
Thank you.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you, Elena. Before I open it up to
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council, I just want to congratulate you
on being named woman of the year by
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Senator Monnique Leone. Congratulations.
Welld deserved. Now, any council
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members?
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Vice Mayor,
>> I actually have a question and a
[48:44]
comment. The first question is, oh,
actually, I'll start with a comment. Uh,
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thank you so much for you said community
and connection. You are building that.
[48:53]
That is you as the leader, but also your
board and the fact that you're just
[48:59]
doing such amazing work. I'm personally
so proud of that. And the mayor kind of
[49:03]
took the words out of my mouth, too. But
I, you know, I'm so proud that you were
[49:08]
also uh selected as one of the five
women of the year by Senator Prom
[49:13]
Monique Leone. And I mentioned that at
last at our last council meeting, but
[49:17]
I'm glad to share that with you in
person as well. Yes. Um the question
[49:21]
that I have is have you formed any
partnerships with Kitstream Emerging
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Children's Museum and also with the
Pleasant Valley Historical Society? We I
[49:32]
meet with Michael fairly reg Michael
Shanklin uh the ED of the of Kids
[49:37]
Stream. So we are we've taken tours.
He's taken tours of ours. We are very
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» we're very much like whenever you're
ready for a partnership let's have a
[49:45]
partnership. So and he knows that our
resources are there to help him in
[49:48]
whatever way and vice versa. So we don't
have a specific partnership yet.
[49:53]
Pleasant Valley Historical Society. I
have gone and done a tour of the program
[49:57]
before of the museum before they closed
it and I've been in touch with Joy Todd
[50:03]
recently just to say let's get together
and let's see how we can work together.
[50:08]
So nothing specific yet but
conversations are open.
[50:11]
» Okay. Well, thank you so much and thank
you for everything that you do. Truly
[50:14]
appreciate it.
>> Go ahead Mr. Kildy. Speaking of history
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» quickly, Mr. K.
>> Oh, thank you. Thanks for being here.
[50:24]
look forward to working with you really
closely. Um, I was able to go, I think
[50:29]
it was a major funders you had last year
and I had a really good time and I was
[50:33]
able to tour the museum and you've done
some pretty incredible work there and
[50:38]
you have a great board of directors and
a lot of support. So, uh, any way we can
[50:43]
help you, you know, achieve your goals,
of course, we're we're always here to to
[50:47]
help in any way, shape, or form. So, and
congratulations on your award. Happy for
[50:51]
you.
>> Thank you.
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Susan,
>> thank you so much for being here
[50:57]
tonight. Um, you know, you shared that
um you shared your mission with with us
[51:02]
and what stood out to me was that um you
want to engage in meaningful experiences
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and so I wanted to thank you for
bringing your mission here tonight. um
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because that was pretty meaningful for
me to have a a short little history
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lesson to go back in time and relive my
fourth grade um memories about the
[51:21]
missions and and um you know the land
that we live in today. So, thank you for
[51:25]
the work you do and congratulations on
your award.
[51:28]
» Thank you,
>> Mr. Trembley.
[51:31]
» Oh, boy. We have a kind of a tradition
on the council that if if uh our
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colleagues have already said what we
were going to say, we don't extend our
[51:39]
remarks. we just simply say ditto. Um I
that would be uncharacteristic
[51:43]
uncharacteristically succinct for me
though. I'm going to say one or two
[51:46]
things and then say ditto. First of all,
I'm really delighted that the museum has
[51:51]
offices now in Camaro. Um I am thankful
to the museum and to the board of
[51:56]
directors for the foresight uh and the
work and the efforts uh that you've made
[52:01]
in preserving our our local history. Um
I think we all know what the importance
[52:07]
of the museum is. So whatever we can do
I see let's see 1 2 3 4 five six seven I
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think there are eight bullets here so we
should we should talk about all those
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asks and
>> thank you
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» thank you
>> and just to bring it back to Camrio you
[52:22]
have office space what do you envision
for that just office space or do you
[52:28]
guys as a organization and a board have
a greater vision for your presence in
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Camaro
>> we have lot this board has lots of
[52:35]
vision as you can imagine
>> realistic big dreams. Um, our goal, so
[52:39]
we are out of space to collect, which is
one of the reasons we're focusing on
[52:43]
oral histories because they are digital,
right? They don't need physical space.
[52:47]
They need cloud space. Um, and we have
to expand our collections. So, right
[52:52]
now, we are exploring expanding our
entire collections here into Camaro and
[52:59]
moving what we would call our research
center. So, all of our collections, our
[53:03]
reading room, our archives, everything
is centrally located. We're really close
[53:08]
to two institution, three if you can
Oxard College institutions of higher
[53:12]
learning. Um we feel like we can really
expand our mission if we are located
[53:16]
here. So that's our big dream.
>> And what's the size of your footprint
[53:20]
right now in Camrio?
>> Right now we're in 45 4,000 square feet
[53:24]
of office space and we are looking at
18,000 square feet of office space.
[53:28]
» Great.
>> Or space, excuse me, space.
[53:31]
» Space. Yeah. Well, thank you very much,
Elena, and thank you to your board
[53:35]
members that took out of their busy
schedule instead of going to Ralph
[53:40]
shopping. Uh, Dr. Rush is here. Um, I
appreciate that. Have a wonderful
[53:45]
evening.
>> Thank you.
[53:47]
» Thank you, Elena.
[53:54]
» You're allowed to leave now, Dr. Rush,
if you'd like.
[54:00]
» Thank you, Mr.
[54:05]
Madame clerk, do we have any speakers on
any items not on the agenda?
[54:12]
» Yes, there are six requests to speak
under general comments. If you'd like to
[54:16]
speak but haven't submitted your name,
please see clerk staff in the foyer.
[54:20]
Each speaker is limited to three
minutes. The city council will receive
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general public comment for an initial
period of 20 minutes. Speakers who sign
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up during the initial 20 minute public
comment period but are not heard within
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that time will be given an opportunity
to speak following the completion of
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action on all other agenda items. Your
time will be displayed with the video on
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the displays. When your time is up, the
microphone will be muted and we will
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move on to the next speaker. When I call
your name, please come up to the podium.
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The first speaker is Spencer Richie
followed by Diana Bradley.
[55:14]
Welcome, Spencer.
>> Hello.
[55:18]
All right. Fine. Hi, I am Spencer
Richie. Um good evening to you all. Um
[55:30]
few few different things. Um one tiny
little correction to the the
[55:36]
presentation. Um as lovely as it was.
Um, so in reality,
[55:44]
um, Ranchic Kayagus' western border
was actually
[55:50]
basically just west of what of an of
what is now um, Lewis.
[56:00]
Um,
what we are standing in now is actually
[56:07]
um, it's called the Gore. it it's often
called the gore after like a cut of
[56:11]
fabric, but basically where Springville
and was and where most of Camrio is now,
[56:17]
including us, that was in the um
basically that triangle just to Rancho
[56:23]
Cayas's west that ended up the the
reason that was open to homesteaders was
[56:30]
because that ended up not making it into
um any of the land grants that were
[56:38]
registered by first the Mexican
government and then the US government.
[56:43]
Um anyway, so on to the the meat and
potatoes of
[56:49]
but again, thank you for the Ventura
County Museum and I could not be happier
[56:54]
that it plans to one day move its
research center to Cam Rio because
[56:58]
getting to downtown Ventures is hard for
me as someone who can't drive especially
[57:02]
because our public transit is lacking.
All right, now to my main concern. So,
[57:08]
as of 9:20 a.m. on April 6th, so 2 days
ago, Monday, um, ICE has so far, again,
[57:17]
as of 9:20 a.m. on Monday, April 6th, 2
days ago, ICE has kidnapped
[57:24]
from the 805 area code
1,824
[57:29]
people. ICE has kidnapped 889 people
from Ventura County so far. And from
[57:37]
Camaro alone, it has kidnapped 471
people. Um, again, these are neighbors,
[57:46]
these are students, these are workers
and these are our tax base. Um,
[57:55]
you know, since you know, you like
people paying taxes and stuff. Um, so
[58:01]
again, you know, not even scolding VCSO
for picking up people who have just been
[58:08]
released from our jails, like no,
letting ICE do that. And also, like not
[58:16]
even tolerating people just observing
ICE, that's not great. Please do better.
[58:21]
Thank you. Have a nice day.
>> Thank you, Spencer.
[58:25]
» Welcome.
The next speaker is Diana Bradley,
[58:29]
followed by Jordan Blake.
[58:34]
» Welcome, Diana.
>> Thank you. Which one do I use? This one.
[58:39]
» Either one.
>> Okay. Hello. Oh, good. Um, hi. Um, I
[58:46]
attended your council meeting
uh two weeks ago, March 25th, hoping to
[58:53]
see the Camaro mobile home rent
stabilization ordinance passed. That did
[58:59]
not happen. Council members Santangelo
and Martinez Bravo are the committee
[59:06]
members pursuing this ordinance to help
us mobile home mobile home owners who
[59:13]
are subject to unfair land lease raises
by park owners.
[59:20]
Their committee has done extensive
research over the last year. They
[59:25]
provided verified statistics that IPG is
gouging their tenants.
[59:32]
The land rent chart that was displayed
by the committee. Really all you need to
[59:38]
know about the park owner IPG. They
raise their land rents without a care
[59:44]
about their senior tenants, which I am
one, and their lower income and family
[59:50]
tenants. I personally know of two senior
tenants in the past three years who had
[59:56]
to just walk away from their homes. One
is now living in his car.
[1:00:02]
Uh the two female council members voted
in favor and all three of the male
[1:00:06]
members opposed, noting that they wanted
changes to the draft ordinance,
[1:00:12]
primarily, it's my understanding, to the
vacancy control, which is the ability
[1:00:17]
for park owners to raise land leases
substantially to potential buyers.
[1:00:24]
Ventura County Parks limit vacancy
increases to 15%
[1:00:30]
once every four years and Ventura city
parks do not allow increases to a new
[1:00:36]
tenant.
The mobile homeowners want to protect
[1:00:40]
their home equity. This ordinance can
protect the equity of 500 homeowners
[1:00:47]
that have built in Camaro's mobile home
parks. The loss of our home equity, I
[1:00:53]
think, is directly tied to the vacancy
control. We're asking you to pass this
[1:00:59]
ordinance, protect our equity by
limiting park owners raising land rents
[1:01:05]
exorbitantly to potential buyers during
sales and transitions.
[1:01:10]
Controlling vacancy increases is a
priority for mobile home owners.
[1:01:17]
Homeowners need monthly rent
stabilization as well to protect our
[1:01:22]
seniors living on fixed income.
We mobile homeowners and tenants
[1:01:27]
respectfully ask the city council to
pass this rent stabilization ordinance.
[1:01:34]
Thank you.
>> Thank you,
[1:01:42]
» Jordan Blake followed by Shirley
Edwards.
[1:01:51]
Welcome, Jordan.
>> Oh, thank you. Hello. Thank you very
[1:01:54]
much for taking the time to listen to
the issue regarding the rent control and
[1:01:59]
vacancy rate. Um, I guess I'll read a
little and speak a little. Um, Camaro
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prides itself on taking care of the
senior community. However,
[1:02:08]
unfortunately, without ordinances, the
rent control and vacancy rates uh has
[1:02:14]
directly affected the senior community
and mobile home parks are traditionally
[1:02:20]
fixed income communities. They are
crucial for affordable housing and
[1:02:24]
should be a lowerc cost path to home
ownership for lowincome residents and
[1:02:28]
seniors. So, the lack of ordinance in
the city's law has allowed landlords to
[1:02:33]
take advantage of the v vulnerable
lowincome and senior communities because
[1:02:38]
there's no rent control or vacancy
measures in place. The rents have
[1:02:41]
skyrocketed as you know.
And uh if the city adopts uh like a 6 or
[1:02:50]
10% uh vacancy rate like you were
talking about at the last meeting, the
[1:02:55]
new new rents, the landlords will most
certainly increase to the maximum. Um
[1:03:00]
because the rents are already higher
than the LA City and Thousand Oaks
[1:03:05]
areas, adding six or 10% to the vacancy
rate would be ultimately a much higher
[1:03:10]
rent than the other 55 and older senior
parks. and also just other mobile home
[1:03:15]
parks in general of all ages. Um, so I
propose that we do some type of sliding
[1:03:22]
scale where maybe the first or second
year is at 0% and then you go years two
[1:03:29]
and three to 2% and then 4% ultimately
ending up around 7%. And I think that
[1:03:36]
this graduated increase, you know, would
no longer allow the rents to be
[1:03:41]
increased 20 to 50% when a home sells,
which is what's happening now. You know,
[1:03:46]
you you're paying a,000 and then the
rent is 260 to the new prospective buyer
[1:03:52]
plus three times, you know, income for a
senior. Uh, and I think that's it. What
[1:03:59]
I want to say to what the prior um
person had spoken about is that the
[1:04:05]
vacancy rate is directly affecting the
sales. um the comparables if you pull
[1:04:11]
for the last five years in like Camaro
Mobile Estates versus Casadel Norte
[1:04:16]
which is far less and also uh Rancho
Adulo which has 11 landown uh I mean our
[1:04:23]
park-owned spaces that they rent and
their rent there is only $15.95 in
[1:04:28]
Rancho Adulo including the homeowners
and all of those sell for much higher uh
[1:04:34]
the average for Camaro Mobile estates I
think was like 97,000 000. Kasa del
[1:04:39]
Norte was like 137,000. Lamp lighter was
like 237. But I think that's because
[1:04:46]
it's, you know, all ages and uh, you
know, they have two incomes versus
[1:04:50]
Camaro Mobile Home Estates, which is
for, you know, seniors and elderly.
[1:04:55]
Thank you so much.
>> Thank you, Jordan.
[1:05:00]
» Shirley Edwards, followed by Sid Hearth
Medra.
[1:05:08]
Welcome, ma'am.
>> Hello. I'm Shirley Edwards. I live in
[1:05:10]
the Mobile Home Park here in Camaro. And
I rise in support of the rent ordinance,
[1:05:16]
stabilization ordinance, including
vacancy control. And I urge all council
[1:05:21]
members to vote positive on this when it
comes up for the next uh voting process.
[1:05:26]
I say ditto to the last two speakers
because I agree with everything they
[1:05:31]
said.
um an an owner in a mobile home park
[1:05:36]
like me for instance on a fixed income.
If I wanted to sell my home, I uh may
[1:05:42]
have to devalue it in order to be able
to sell because new owners are very
[1:05:46]
turned off by the high land rent. My
place will probably go very much higher
[1:05:52]
a month than it is now. My lease expires
at the end of the month and I'm at the
[1:05:57]
end of this year, I'm sorry. And I'm
very concerned about what the price is
[1:06:01]
going to be. Am I going to be able to
pay it? What are my options going to be?
[1:06:06]
Sell hopefully or walk away. Those are
the options. So, I strongly request that
[1:06:11]
you vote for the rent stabilization
ordinance with vacancy control to help
[1:06:17]
protect those of us who live in the city
and devote a lot of volunteer time to
[1:06:21]
the city of Camaro. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
[1:06:28]
Sidarth Medroa followed by DVO Brown.
[1:06:41]
» Welcome,
[1:06:44]
» council. Fellow citizens,
I believe the speakers before me have
[1:06:50]
spoken most wisely of all. I add my
voice to theirs to all their remarks and
[1:06:56]
I add this also. Council, we are coming
to you for protection.
[1:07:01]
Protection from being turned out of
house and home in some cases.
[1:07:06]
Protection from being attacked,
abducted, bullied, beaten, carried away
[1:07:12]
to a face it worse than death in the
other. Protection in a third case from
[1:07:19]
pollution and the excessive heat. it is
imposing on this city as well.
[1:07:25]
These things
these things are the largest troubles
[1:07:29]
our nation faces and our city as well.
We come to you asking for your aid in
[1:07:36]
putting an end to them.
Above all, perhaps most urgently, all
[1:07:42]
three of these must be done. But most
urgently,
[1:07:46]
ICE, Immigration and Customs
Enforcement, as they call themselves,
[1:07:50]
the occupying force invading and
threatening us.
[1:07:55]
The invading force imprisoning people
merely for looking at them, as Spencer
[1:07:59]
pointed out,
why they must stop and they must go.
[1:08:04]
They must stop all they are doing and
they must go from this city, from this
[1:08:09]
county, from this state never to return.
[1:08:14]
That is the bare minimum.
The bare minimum any city must offer its
[1:08:20]
people
the safety
[1:08:24]
and the confidence of a place to call
home. If these threats of high rent
[1:08:29]
occupying armies and and pollution
continue, we shall have none of these.
[1:08:34]
We shall not even have a city,
the the borders of this land have been,
[1:08:39]
as our executive of the museum pointed
out, been drawn and redrawn many times
[1:08:44]
over the years,
and they may be redrawn again. But
[1:08:48]
there's no cause to mistreat our own
people on those grounds. whether those
[1:08:52]
borders are drawn by nations or
landlords.
[1:08:58]
When I have said that, I have said
everything.
[1:09:03]
Pollution
and and high rent and and customs
[1:09:09]
enforcement as they call it must stop
and must go. That is all.
[1:09:14]
» Thank you,
>> DVO Brown.
[1:09:26]
Welcome, sir.
>> Thank you, sir, very much. Uh, Mr.
[1:09:29]
Mayor, I appreciate it. Vice Mayor,
council members,
[1:09:34]
Mr. Ramirez, city manager, and all the
amazing city staff. Um, I don't say
[1:09:39]
those terms lightly. It's not uh just a
gentle colloquialism. It's a truly an
[1:09:43]
expression of my opinion of everyone on
this das. I appreciate it. Um, I'm of
[1:09:49]
course talking to you what I always talk
to you about. So far the last several
[1:09:52]
times we've spoken. Um, but I have a
couple of new thoughts. I'm not going to
[1:09:55]
beat you with uh
figures and and those sorts of things.
[1:10:01]
It's just Well, I'm going to give you a
couple just a couple. Um, the main
[1:10:06]
figure that I was thinking of is um
[1:10:11]
well, it really has to do with
with vacancy control. And I think that's
[1:10:17]
what we were discussing. The three non
uh ad hoc members of the council were
[1:10:22]
really really drilling down on last time
at the last meeting.
[1:10:27]
The thing that I didn't hear any of you
mention, I heard all of you mention
[1:10:31]
return on investment for the park owner
many times and I noticed in the uh
[1:10:37]
agenda report it's mentioned 17 times
return on investment. I also understand
[1:10:41]
that it's a state law that it has to be
there and I find that your due diligence
[1:10:46]
is refreshing because that tells me your
due diligence on things that we don't
[1:10:49]
discuss is probably just as high and I
appreciate that. So when I say thank you
[1:10:52]
for your service, I'm thanking you for
that attention to detail as well. The
[1:10:56]
one detail that wasn't attended to that
I haven't heard yet, it's not in the
[1:11:01]
it's not in the the ordinance itself,
which by the way does mention return on
[1:11:04]
investment for the park owner 12 times
was return on investment for the
[1:11:09]
homeowners.
In this particular place, in this
[1:11:12]
particular situation, there are two
owners for every every parcel, if you
[1:11:18]
will. There's the land owner and then
there's the homeowner. Now, a standard
[1:11:22]
stick and mortar home, it's one owner.
the one owner owns both the home and the
[1:11:28]
land. In this instance, there's two.
Now, I don't know if you know this or
[1:11:31]
not, but I I like to I don't know if you
know any American Sign Language, but
[1:11:35]
there's a symbol for fair because fair
return is the the term that's used quite
[1:11:40]
a bit. The term fair in American Sign
Language is this.
[1:11:44]
Okay, it's um sign language is kind of a
visual anamapia, anamanopia, but um what
[1:11:50]
that means is there's two entities and
they meet at a level ground. And so far
[1:11:55]
what I've noticed is the uh the
particular inside of this that has the
[1:12:01]
most money gets the most fair. They get
the most mention of the term fair. And
[1:12:06]
the ones that have the least amount of
money, the individual homeowners aren't
[1:12:10]
getting the term fair toward our return
at all. It hasn't been mentioned. I'm
[1:12:15]
hoping it's being considered after I
speak to you today. That's the least I
[1:12:20]
can tell you. Um, that's really all I
wanted to mention is that I feel like
[1:12:24]
we're being left out. Um, collectively
the homeowners in the city.
[1:12:30]
I'm out of time. Thanks for letting me
share.
[1:12:32]
» Thank you very much.
[1:12:38]
» There are no more speakers.
>> Thank you very much. We will move on to
[1:12:42]
council staff and intergovernmental
reports.
[1:12:45]
And I would like to write um welcome Mr.
Gerardo Gonzalez
[1:12:51]
with
Interface 211. Welcome.
[1:12:56]
» Uh, good evening, mayor, vice mayor,
council members, and city manager. Thank
[1:13:00]
you for excuse me, having me here today.
I'm Hero Gonzalez, community information
[1:13:06]
associate director with interface 211.
And I'm here to share how uh 211 has
[1:13:12]
been supporting Camrio residents
throughout this past year.
[1:13:17]
For those who may be unfamiliar with our
services, uh 211 Ventura County operates
[1:13:23]
under interface children and family
services based out of uh Camaro. Uh we
[1:13:27]
serve as a countywide information and
referral hub linking residents to more
[1:13:33]
than 2,000 health and human service
resources uh throughout the region. Uh
[1:13:38]
last year in 2025, we received over
18,000 calls and texts, and our website
[1:13:44]
welcomed more than 25,000 visitors. Uh
each of these interactions represents
[1:13:48]
someone funding their way to the
services and the help that they need. Uh
[1:13:52]
in 2026, we celebrate over 20 years of
providing uh 21 services to the
[1:13:58]
community.
Uh 211 represents just one part of
[1:14:02]
Interface's broader mission. Interface
runs 30 distinct programs across six
[1:14:07]
core departments. Uh domestic violence
and child abuse prevention, human
[1:14:12]
trafficking prevention and intervention,
uh justice services, mental health and
[1:14:16]
trauma treatment, and youth crisis and
homeless uh services.
[1:14:23]
This broader network allows us to be
able to direct refer to our interface
[1:14:29]
programs for uh individuals who uh can
benefit from our services.
[1:14:37]
Uh 211 stands as the county's most
extensive and comprehensive information
[1:14:43]
and referral resource for residents
seeking help. Our team assists callers
[1:14:48]
in locating and accessing uh the service
that the services that they require from
[1:14:54]
housing to food programs, mental health
support to legal aid. We're available
[1:14:59]
247 every day of the year, understanding
that urgent needs don't wait for
[1:15:04]
convenient hours.
[1:15:07]
Accessibility is central to our mission.
Residents can connect with us in three
[1:15:12]
simple methods, and that's by dialing
211, texting. their zip code 2898211
[1:15:18]
or visiting our website at
211ventura.org.
[1:15:22]
Regardless of how someone uh connects
with us, they'll be connected to a
[1:15:26]
trained community information navigator.
Uh now I'd like to share some specific
[1:15:31]
data about how we served uh Camrio
residents in 2025. So we took 1,59
[1:15:39]
calls uh from Camrio residents
throughout the year. Uh let me give you
[1:15:43]
some context around this figure. uh a
significant number of our Camaro callers
[1:15:48]
reach out to us more than once. So the
actual count of unique individuals is
[1:15:53]
lower than the 1,59.
Uh what this shows us is that residents
[1:15:59]
trust 211 enough to come back when they
need additional uh support. Someone
[1:16:04]
might contact us initially about finding
housing and then give us a call back a
[1:16:09]
few weeks later when they need mental
health services or perhaps give us a
[1:16:12]
call a third time when they need uh food
assistance. Uh we collect demographic
[1:16:18]
information from every caller to help us
understand community needs and trends
[1:16:23]
which is why you're seeing the total
call volume rather than a count of
[1:16:27]
unique individuals.
[1:16:35]
Uh looking at the demographics of those
that we served, uh 457 were first-time
[1:16:40]
callers to 211. 105 were families with
children under 5 years old. 22 callers
[1:16:46]
indicated the person in need was
pregnant. 100 calls pertained to someone
[1:16:51]
who reported they were at risk of
becoming homeless. And 142 calls pertain
[1:16:56]
to someone who reported that they were
currently homeless. Uh you know these
[1:17:00]
numbers give us a snapshot of some of
the challenges facing some of our Camaro
[1:17:04]
neighbors within the context of 211 um
particularly around housing stability
[1:17:09]
and the need for comprehensive family
support.
[1:17:14]
Behind each of these calls is a real
person uh navigating a difficult
[1:17:18]
situation. Uh let me share an example
with you. A few months ago, we received
[1:17:23]
a call from a Camaro resident, uh, let's
call her Sarah, uh, facing a crisis that
[1:17:28]
was affecting her entire family. Her
15-year-old son had been refusing to go
[1:17:33]
to to go to school, uh, becoming
verbally abusive at home and showing
[1:17:37]
signs of serious uh, mental health
struggles. Sarah had contacted the
[1:17:42]
school and they referred her to a mental
health provider. but she was overwhelmed
[1:17:46]
trying to navigate the mental health
system while also managing her own
[1:17:50]
stress and anxiety about her son's
well-being.
[1:17:56]
Uh when Sarah called 211, our navigator
recognized that this wasn't just about
[1:18:02]
finding a mental health provider. It was
also about supporting an entire family
[1:18:07]
in need. Uh we connected her to mental
health services that accept medical uh
[1:18:11]
for her son, linked her to family
therapy resources so the whole family
[1:18:16]
could work through this together and
provided information about support
[1:18:20]
groups for uh parents dealing with
similar challenges. Uh when one family
[1:18:26]
member struggles with mental health, uh
the entire family often needs support as
[1:18:31]
well, not just the individual in crisis.
211 is here to help uh families access
[1:18:37]
the comprehensive services they need to
be able to heal together.
[1:18:43]
Uh when we look at the top categories of
needs expressed by Camrio callers in
[1:18:47]
2025, housing ranked number one uh no
surprise there. Second was individual
[1:18:52]
family and community support
encompassing services like the area
[1:18:56]
agency on aging case management and
programs like holiday gifts and toys. Uh
[1:19:02]
third was mental health and substance
use services. Uh ref reflecting the
[1:19:07]
significant need for uh behavioral
health support.
[1:19:12]
Uh this slide here shows how Camrio
compares to other cities in the county.
[1:19:17]
As you can see, housing is the top need
across every community. This is a
[1:19:22]
countywide challenge, not unique uh to
Camaro. What we see in Camaro is that
[1:19:27]
mental health and substance use services
rank as the third highest need. Uh this
[1:19:32]
reflects a pattern we're seeing in
several communities across the county
[1:19:36]
where uh behavioral health support is
becoming an increasingly prominent need
[1:19:40]
alongside housing and family services.
And lastly uh to wrap up, in addition to
[1:19:49]
uh linking residents to existing
resources, we operate uh several
[1:19:52]
specialized programs delivering direct
services over the phone uh to residents
[1:19:58]
through VITA, our volunteer income tax
assistance program. Uh we offer
[1:20:01]
appointments for no cost tax preparation
uh to qualifying community members,
[1:20:06]
helping them claim maximum refunds and
access tax credits that they're entitled
[1:20:11]
to. Our PSPS initiative supports the
access and functional needs population
[1:20:17]
in advance of public safety power shut
offs via case management and delivers
[1:20:22]
real time help during actual uh shut
offs uh covering things like lodging,
[1:20:27]
meals, transportation, portable backup
batteries, all at no cost to residents
[1:20:32]
for the duration of the PSPS events. And
this is made possible through our
[1:20:37]
partnership with Southern California
Edison. Ventura versus Hate uh assists
[1:20:42]
those who've experienced hate incidents
in filing reports and accessing
[1:20:47]
appropriate uh support services through
ECM, our enhanced care management
[1:20:52]
program. Our team delivers comprehensive
case management to eligible Gold Coast
[1:20:57]
Health Plan members, helping them
address both their health needs and
[1:21:01]
basic needs through coordinated care. Uh
these initiatives allow us to offer
[1:21:06]
hands-on assistance to some of our most
vulnerable residents in our communities.
[1:21:12]
I appreciate your time this evening and
thank you uh so much for your continued
[1:21:16]
support of the work that we do here in
21 I'm sorry in Camaro through 211. Uh
[1:21:22]
if you or anyone you know ever needs
assistance, please remember that we're
[1:21:25]
here uh 247. Again, you can reach us by
calling 211, texting your zip code
[1:21:30]
2898211,
or visiting our website at 21venter.org.
[1:21:34]
Thank you so much.
>> Thank you, Herardo. Herardo,
[1:21:38]
I said it right this time. You said it
right. Yes. Any comments or questions? I
[1:21:42]
know the vice mayor will have something.
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor uh, Herardo. Thank
[1:21:47]
you so much for your presentation and
more than anything, thank you to 211 for
[1:21:52]
the critical work that is being offered
to our community members. Um, I know you
[1:21:58]
mentioned that housing is the top need
and mental health is, I believe, number
[1:22:04]
three. Um, and I would probably assume
that when people are asking for mental
[1:22:11]
health support is when they're already
acknowledging that they need that
[1:22:14]
support. But unfortunately, if people
are facing housing insecurity, they're
[1:22:19]
probably already in need of some mental
health services. Um, when people are
[1:22:24]
seeking housing services, are you able
to make that connection to any mental
[1:22:29]
health support as well?
>> Yeah. Yeah, we are. So, um, our approach
[1:22:34]
is to be as comprehens comprehensive as
possible. So, when someone calls, um, we
[1:22:39]
make sure to assess their situation.
What we want to do is of course
[1:22:43]
acknowledge the stated need but also
look out for unstated needs, right? So
[1:22:49]
often times we're able to provide
additional resources to try to uh again
[1:22:55]
uh
kind of make sure that they're they're
[1:22:59]
taken care of in every aspect. And
depending um you know depending if
[1:23:04]
they're able to take all of that
information at the time uh we're able to
[1:23:08]
share uh the resources that they that
they need and if not then we'll follow
[1:23:13]
up with them or they'll know that we're
here 24/7 so they can they can connect
[1:23:17]
with us again.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. And other than
[1:23:21]
that, my comment is just that I'm very
proud that the city of Camaro is a
[1:23:25]
partner and supporter, financial
supporter of 211 because it is through
[1:23:30]
that work that we're able to offer these
services to our community members who
[1:23:35]
need it right then and there. So, thank
you.
[1:23:38]
» Thank you.
>> Any other comments, Susan?
[1:23:43]
» Oh, you're leaving.
>> Herardo, we're not done.
[1:23:47]
» Apologize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
>> Thank you for being No, that you're
[1:23:50]
fine. I'm just teasing you. I'm really
happy you're here tonight. Um, you know,
[1:23:55]
my day job is a psychiatric nurse and so
I have patients that um use 211 and in
[1:24:02]
the same sense that I refer them to. So,
I'm really happy that we have that
[1:24:06]
resource and I am um not happy but it's
really um rewarding that I get to see it
[1:24:12]
in use daily. So, thank you.
>> Thank you,
[1:24:16]
» gentlemen. Mr. KD Jardo just kind of uh
quickly if you would um housing are most
[1:24:23]
of the calls with the housing related
are they in a financial
[1:24:28]
rent assistance what what's the number
one would you say with the housing call
[1:24:33]
» so the composition of that top need is
about 50% uh affordable subsidized
[1:24:39]
housing so individuals that are looking
for low-income subsidized housing and
[1:24:43]
about 20% of that is individuals who are
seeking emergency housing because
[1:24:47]
they're either homeless or uh they're at
risk. And then the remainder of that is
[1:24:52]
individuals who yes are uh going through
some type of financial hardship and
[1:24:57]
they're looking for rent payment
assistance or help with their with their
[1:25:00]
bills. So oftent times what we what we
want to do is uh assess their situation
[1:25:05]
and um make sure you know are they
taking advantage of any entitlement
[1:25:10]
benefits. You know are you enrolled in
Calresh, Cal Works? Um if they're
[1:25:14]
disabled, you know, do you have social
security income? So, we try to explore
[1:25:18]
those avenues uh combined with the
actual resources for rent payment
[1:25:22]
assistance or low-income subsidized
housing. Uh right now, uh there's a
[1:25:27]
variety of weight lists that are
available uh through many mansions and
[1:25:31]
other low-income housing providers. So,
we're excited that on daily we're able
[1:25:36]
to connect individuals to those uh
housing weight lists. And there's even a
[1:25:40]
couple lists that are actually open
right now where they're accepting
[1:25:43]
applications for consideration of
housing. So that's kind of a relief
[1:25:47]
there that over these last few months
there's actually some good viable
[1:25:51]
options for for people to consider.
Oftent time people are frustrated
[1:25:54]
because they need they need a they need
housing in a month or two but you know
[1:25:59]
time will pass. We still encourage them
to get on the wait list because the time
[1:26:02]
will come eventually. Um so that's kind
of like a
[1:26:06]
like you know kind of what that looks
like.
[1:26:10]
» Thank you. That's helpful.
>> Mr. Trembley.
[1:26:13]
» Thanks Mr. Mayor Hera. Thank you for
being here. um the the depth and the
[1:26:17]
breadth of 211's expertise in all these
different areas is is instrumental for
[1:26:21]
our community. So, I really appreciate
you being here. Ditto to what my uh
[1:26:25]
colleagues have already said and I want
to especially note and compliment um you
[1:26:30]
on the power uh shut off safety services
uh and that partnership I guess
[1:26:36]
partnership with with Edison because I
know it's of value uh during those
[1:26:41]
times. So, thanks for being here.
>> Thank you.
[1:26:44]
Thank you very much, Ditto, what my
colleagues have said and now you are
[1:26:48]
free to leave.
>> Thank you so much for your time. I
[1:26:50]
appreciate it.
>> Have a good evening.
[1:26:52]
» Good evening.
[1:26:57]
» Next up, we will have a presentation
from Commander Tennyson on the uniform
[1:27:02]
crime statistics for the city of Camaro.
>> Good evening, mayor, council, and staff.
[1:27:08]
Thank you so much for giving me the
opportunity to talk about crime in
[1:27:11]
Camaro last year. I can tell you as a
resident who lives here and as someone
[1:27:17]
who is very familiar with the crimes
that happen, Camaro remains a very safe
[1:27:22]
place to live and to work and to raise
families. Uh the first couple of slides
[1:27:27]
are going to be things that you've all
heard before, but it's worth reminding
[1:27:30]
for those who are watching or listening
for the first time. The sheriff's office
[1:27:34]
fully transitioned away from uniform
crime reporting uh in 2024 and we went
[1:27:39]
over to the new national incidentbased
reporting system. So we now have two
[1:27:44]
years worth of data so we can look and
compare apples to apples from 24 and 25
[1:27:50]
to get an idea of how we're doing from
crime. There's a lot of different things
[1:27:53]
that came through neighbors but the
bottom line is we have a lot more data
[1:27:58]
that we now are required to collect and
report to the FBI. But that extra data
[1:28:03]
also gives us more data points to
analyze and to help us develop good
[1:28:07]
strategies in fighting crime.
Our categories within NYERS are crimes
[1:28:13]
against persons, crimes against
property, and crimes against society.
[1:28:17]
And I'll talk a little bit about each of
those and what they look like
[1:28:21]
year-over-year from 24 to 25.
Before I talk about that though, I do
[1:28:26]
want to remind uh everybody watching and
remind council here that crime rates are
[1:28:31]
affected by many many things and we have
a tendency to want to look at our city
[1:28:36]
and compare them to our neighboring
cities, but there are so many factors
[1:28:39]
that make Camaro different from our
neighboring cities that we have to be
[1:28:44]
really careful when we do that. Uh we do
report on a per 1,000 resident basis,
[1:28:49]
but what we also understand is that our
daytime population isn't just based on
[1:28:54]
our 70,700
residents. We have a lot of businesses
[1:28:58]
here that employ people that bring them
in. We have the outlets that bring in a
[1:29:02]
lot of people. So, our population is
very different during the day than it is
[1:29:06]
at night. And there are many, many
factors that influence crime. We did see
[1:29:11]
a few uh positive and negative crime
trends this year. Uh this last year,
[1:29:16]
they include increases in assaults, and
I'll talk about those a little bit
[1:29:19]
later. We saw a significant decrease in
motor vehicle thefts, and as you might
[1:29:24]
imagine, we see continued organized
retail theft activities, primarily along
[1:29:28]
the theft corridor of Ventura Boulevard.
One of the first things I want to talk
[1:29:32]
about is looking at a six-year snapshot
of our calls for service. We did have an
[1:29:38]
uptick last year from 14,000 up to
14,500,
[1:29:43]
but we still remain lower than we have
in the last six years. These calls for
[1:29:47]
service are not just when somebody calls
for a deputy. It also includes um
[1:29:53]
traffic collisions. What it doesn't
include though is self-initiated,
[1:29:57]
proactive policing and self-initiated
activity. And our deputies do a lot of
[1:30:01]
that because that proactive policing is
really what goes a long way to making us
[1:30:05]
safe. So these here are just the calls
for service where somebody calls needing
[1:30:10]
a police officer to respond.
Now the first category I want to look at
[1:30:16]
is crimes against persons. And a couple
of things stand out to me is that are,
[1:30:21]
you know, we had the same amount of
homicides we had last year. I'm grateful
[1:30:25]
that we only had one, but one is one too
many. um in in Camaro in 2025 on New
[1:30:32]
Year's uh I think it was the day after
New Year's was a murder suicide between
[1:30:36]
an elderly couple where there had been a
terminal illness diagnosis
[1:30:40]
uh and it was tragic and we work to
ensure that we don't have any in Camaro
[1:30:46]
but sometimes we can't control all of
those things that happen behind closed
[1:30:50]
doors. We did have 20 consensual sex
offenses down from 35 the year before.
[1:30:56]
Nine of those consensual sex offenses
were rapes. I reviewed each one of those
[1:31:00]
rapes. Uh they were all uh not that it
makes it any better, but just some of
[1:31:04]
the demographics on it was known
offenders uh to victims. So we didn't
[1:31:08]
have stranger rapes. Those are something
that would uh really cause us a lot of
[1:31:12]
concern if we had something like that.
Uh we did not have that and we didn't
[1:31:16]
discover any trends with the ones that
we did have or with any of the sex
[1:31:19]
offenses that we did have. The assaults
are where we saw a significant increase.
[1:31:25]
We went from 452 assaults in 2024 up to
496 assaults last year. They were driven
[1:31:33]
primarily in assaults related to
domestic violence cases, but we also saw
[1:31:39]
assaults related to child abuse go up.
Those are not primary arrests. What we
[1:31:43]
saw is secondary arrests. So, for
example, if our deputies are out
[1:31:47]
conducting proactive policing and we
arrest a drunk driver, if they have a
[1:31:51]
child in the car, we are moving
aggressively to add an arrest charge to
[1:31:56]
whoever is driving the car if there's a
child in the car. And we did see those
[1:32:00]
numbers go up quite a bit last year. Uh
we also saw an increase in resisting,
[1:32:04]
obstructing, and delaying peace
officers. And pretty much those three
[1:32:08]
categories, the domestic violence, the
child abuse, and resisting police
[1:32:12]
officers, uh, made up the majority of
the increases that we see in crimes
[1:32:16]
against persons.
I want to highlight for you really quick
[1:32:21]
a case involving crimes against persons.
Uh, this investigation happened at the
[1:32:25]
beginning of last year and our
detectives started investigating a an
[1:32:29]
assault with a deadly weapon. This was
between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Uh
[1:32:34]
when they learned of that domestic
violence case, they came to understand
[1:32:38]
that the girlfriend pointed what the
victim believed to be an AR-15 rifle at
[1:32:43]
the victim. Our special enforcement unit
team, which is our plane closed unit,
[1:32:48]
got involved and they were able to
author a search warrant and get that
[1:32:51]
search warrant approved by a local
judge. They ended up serving that search
[1:32:56]
warrant at a residence and they followed
up at a storage facility. They located
[1:33:01]
42 firearms, including a 50 caliber
rifle and thousands of rounds of
[1:33:06]
ammunition. Uh, the girlfriend was
arrested, but it turns out that the
[1:33:09]
boyfriend, who was initially the victim
of the assault with a deadly weapon, was
[1:33:12]
a convicted felon, and he was not
allowed to be in possession of or around
[1:33:17]
ammunition or weapons, and he was
knowingly, so he got arrested as well.
[1:33:21]
But this picture shows those 42 uh
firearms and thousands of rounds of
[1:33:27]
ammunition. and it was a great case um
by our detectives and by our special
[1:33:32]
enforcement unit.
The next category we look at is crimes
[1:33:36]
against property. And you can see we're
pretty static across the board in all of
[1:33:41]
our crimes against property. Um this is
an area crimes against property where
[1:33:45]
proactive policing really can have a
positive impact and I'll talk about that
[1:33:49]
in a moment. The most the most notable
improvement was in the area of thefts of
[1:33:54]
motor vehicles. You can see we had 72
vehicles stolen in 2024 and 45 stolen in
[1:34:01]
2025. And much of that decline we
attribute to identifying the right
[1:34:06]
crooks who we know have backgrounds in
stealing vehicles and targeting them
[1:34:11]
aggressively for probation searches and
targeting them for stays in custody
[1:34:16]
because when they are in jail, they're
not able to be out on the streets
[1:34:19]
stealing cars and victimizing residents.
You can also notice on here that one
[1:34:23]
area um you know when we have 800 crimes
or 700 crimes that we're measuring, it
[1:34:28]
looks like just a little blip on the
radar, but it is one worth talking
[1:34:30]
about. Arson, we had four arson in 2025.
We had none in 2024. Uh in three of
[1:34:38]
those arsonants, we discovered that
transients were using fires either to
[1:34:42]
cook or to keep warm. And they were
inser observed by passerbys who reported
[1:34:47]
it to us. And we were able to go out and
make contact. And we did make some
[1:34:50]
arrests. One of the arson was a person
who was suffering from a serious mental
[1:34:55]
breakdown and who burned uh started a
fire in the home where she was living.
[1:34:59]
Arrests were made in all four cases of
the arson that happened.
[1:35:05]
Organized retail theft. This is one that
we always talk about in Camaro because
[1:35:08]
we have the Camrio Premium Outlets. We
have the Camrio Town Center with um
[1:35:12]
Target and with Home Depot. um they are
still and likely always will be the most
[1:35:18]
prominent crime in Camaro and a lot of
that does revolve around organized
[1:35:23]
retail theft. It's not just shoplifts.
In 2025, we did have 370 shoplifts
[1:35:29]
between just between the Cameo Premium
Outlets and the Cameo Town Center, which
[1:35:33]
is Target and Home Depot.
177 of those shoplifts were organized
[1:35:37]
retail theft in nature. What does that
mean to you? When we talk about ORT,
[1:35:42]
we're talking about groups working in
concert to commit the thefts. They move
[1:35:46]
from store to store. They even move from
city to city or region to region. We've
[1:35:50]
had people from Northern California who
make their way down the coast committing
[1:35:54]
organized retail theft. Some of these
groups create distractions in order to
[1:36:00]
commit their thefts, while others are
less strategic uh about their thefts and
[1:36:04]
more bold. They just go in and they uh
take armfuls of property. Um, some of
[1:36:08]
them take advantage of their knowledge
that a lot of loss prevention uh
[1:36:13]
employees from some of these
corporations, they have to call their
[1:36:18]
headquarters before they can report it
to police. And so, a lot of the crooks
[1:36:21]
know that and they take advantage of
that. It also gives us a disadvantage at
[1:36:25]
times when we're trying to identify and
take people into custody. Our community
[1:36:30]
resource unit works uh handinhand though
with the outlet mall security and are
[1:36:35]
constantly building good relationships
with the loss prevention to try and
[1:36:38]
minimize that time delay between the
crime occurring and the crime being
[1:36:42]
reported to us. And we've seen a lot of
success in that area. Uh most often in
[1:36:46]
organized retail theft, the crooks are
looking for specific merchandise like
[1:36:51]
laundry detergent or beauty supplies.
Other items they look for are cell
[1:36:55]
phones, clothing, purses, and even
high-end alcohol.
[1:37:00]
We still do have the organized retail
theft task force that's operating on a
[1:37:04]
grant run by the sheriff's office and we
do see them operating in Camaro
[1:37:09]
proactively at our outlets. Um when I
talked about proactive policing having
[1:37:14]
an impact on property crimes, this is
that one area that I'm talking about.
[1:37:19]
Uh, our two-person directed enforcement
unit also works proactively at the
[1:37:23]
outlets and within the community to
build relationships and with outlet
[1:37:28]
security and individual stores loss
prevention again to help reduce that
[1:37:32]
time delay between crimes occurring and
us coming unseen. Uh, the organized
[1:37:37]
retail theft task force, they're
instrumental in helping us fight crime.
[1:37:42]
Um, we also are looking to build a
reputation at the outlets. We want it to
[1:37:46]
be known throughout this region that the
Camrio Police Department doesn't mess
[1:37:49]
around and that the Ventura County
Sheriff's Office doesn't mess around.
[1:37:52]
That word gets out when crews come up
from Los Angeles. And when they think
[1:37:57]
they're going to get off with a ticket
because they've kept their theft under
[1:38:01]
felony levels, but we use other crimes
like conspiracy when people work in
[1:38:06]
concert together to say, "No, that's a
felony in Ventura County and you're all
[1:38:09]
going to jail over that. You're not
going to get the ticket that you get
[1:38:11]
elsewhere." So, our organized retail
theft, our directed enforcement unit
[1:38:15]
really help us to develop that
reputation and I do know that that
[1:38:18]
reputation makes its way out into the
public. Um, from the OT task force last
[1:38:23]
year, they conducted a number of
proactive blitz operations uh at the
[1:38:27]
outlets working with our team and outlet
security. They've done proactive patrol
[1:38:31]
on a random basis and they conduct
investigations into some of the crews
[1:38:34]
that come into our area. And their
efforts last year resulted in 54 uh
[1:38:39]
separate arrests out at the outlets.
I also want to highlight a cargo theft
[1:38:45]
investigation that our detectives did.
We had a spree of stolen vehicles last
[1:38:49]
year. Happened around the end of uh 2024
and up to New Year's Eve where several
[1:38:55]
vehicles were stolen um from various
locations in Camaro, but also even in
[1:39:02]
neighboring cities. Uh they broke into
businesses at some locations with box
[1:39:07]
trucks and stole some of the
merchandise. In one instance, they stole
[1:39:10]
a big rig here in Camaro, and they drove
over to one of our large uh warehouse
[1:39:15]
stores, hooked up to one of their
trailers, their tractor trailers full of
[1:39:20]
merchandise, and made off with that
tractor trailer full of merchandise. In
[1:39:24]
those few days, the total losses that we
saw here was over $500,000 in
[1:39:29]
merchandise. Our detectives started
investigating and through the use of
[1:39:32]
quite a few investigative techniques,
including license plate readers, we
[1:39:37]
identified where the suspects were
dropping the merchandise off. We did
[1:39:41]
some other search warrants and they
identified several suspects who were
[1:39:44]
involved uh and we were able to track
them from the various locations that
[1:39:49]
they operated in in Southern California.
We worked with our organized retail
[1:39:52]
theft task force, the California Highway
Patrol, and the Drug Enforcement
[1:39:56]
Administration uh agency, and we exited
executed search warrants at several
[1:40:00]
locations throughout Southern
California. Uh we made arrests and we
[1:40:05]
seized approximately $1.5 million in
stolen property. So, not just the
[1:40:09]
property from our thefts up here, but we
discovered that there were stolen
[1:40:14]
property from other nationwide
organizations like Amazon, Samsung, TJ
[1:40:18]
Maxx, Converse, and others. and we
intercepted these goods as they were
[1:40:23]
being sent uh to Tijana for resale. The
picture you see here is one of our
[1:40:28]
trucks, our stake bed truck, and all of
those boxes are Samsung TVs that were
[1:40:32]
stolen off of a trailer, not here in
Camaro, but but other uh other
[1:40:36]
locations. And this case is just a
testament to the tenacity and skill
[1:40:40]
level of our detectives and to the great
relationships that they build with our
[1:40:44]
local, state, and federal partners uh
that allow us to bring these crooks to
[1:40:48]
justice.
[1:40:51]
Crimes against society is an interesting
category. In all of our other crime
[1:40:55]
rate, our crime uh categories, we look
for crime rates to be going down. Um
[1:41:00]
that's a sign of a safe community.
Crimes against society actually is
[1:41:05]
different because this is really a
measure of proactive policing. This is a
[1:41:09]
new category that we never did before
underi uh uniform crime reporting. And
[1:41:13]
so this is drug and narcotics violations
that our deputies makes, equipment
[1:41:16]
violations and weapon law violations.
And so again, this is a measure of
[1:41:21]
proactive policing. And as I mentioned
at the beginning of this presentation,
[1:41:25]
we've got some areas where we're we've
identified some really good trends and
[1:41:28]
some areas where we've identified some
negative trends. And this is an area
[1:41:33]
where for me um because of one thing
I've learned in 27 years of of policing
[1:41:38]
tells me about the impact that drugs and
drug use has on crime in our
[1:41:43]
communities. Our biggest crime category
is lararseny theft and over the years I
[1:41:49]
have personally experienced that drug
users commit a disproportionate amount
[1:41:53]
of theft related crime in our community.
So for me this is a category where I
[1:41:58]
want to see the numbers go up not down.
I want our deputies out making proactive
[1:42:03]
uh traffic enforcement stops, looking
for those drug users who would be intent
[1:42:08]
on stealing from our community members
and for folks who have went out and
[1:42:13]
earned their property on their own. So,
this is an area we're going to focus on
[1:42:17]
this year. Uh I'm I'm already seeing an
increase so far in the first three
[1:42:22]
months of this year. We're up about 8%
in arrests and I want to see that trend
[1:42:25]
continue as we move forward. So, what
does a crime against uh society look
[1:42:30]
like? This photograph right here in this
description is what it looks like. We
[1:42:35]
received a tip uh from a uh an anonymous
person, Cam Rio, that there was an uh an
[1:42:41]
Oxnard resident who was selling drugs in
our city. We did enough investigative
[1:42:45]
words work to obtain a search warrant, a
residential search warrant u signed by a
[1:42:49]
superior court judge. Our Camrio police
uh detectives, our sheriff's office
[1:42:54]
narcotics unit conducted a search
warrant at uh the residence. They loaded
[1:42:58]
located 236 grams of cocaine, 35 grams
of methamphetamine, psilocybin
[1:43:03]
mushrooms, and nearly $75,000 in cash
proceeds from the narcotic sales. So,
[1:43:09]
this is the kind of thing that proactive
policing gets you. It prevents drugs
[1:43:13]
from getting on the street and getting
in the hands of people who shouldn't
[1:43:16]
have it. uh and it sends a message to
people that we won't tolerate this in
[1:43:20]
Camaro.
One of the other important things for me
[1:43:25]
to share with this council was our
response times. You can see that late uh
[1:43:32]
2018 1920 we were looking really good
and then we saw a very noticeable
[1:43:38]
increase in response times. Well, last
year we saw a very significant decrease.
[1:43:43]
And the reason why I wanted to share
this and and point it out to this
[1:43:46]
council was because 2025 in in fall of
2024, you all approved the addition of a
[1:43:53]
cover sergeant car and of a cover car
for our patrol deputies, particularly to
[1:43:58]
provide coverage out on the east end of
town. And you did that because um the
[1:44:03]
data showed us that our deputies
workload was not balanced. And we
[1:44:07]
believe that if we had additional
resources, we could bring down the
[1:44:11]
response times. So 2025 was the first
year that we had both of those cars
[1:44:16]
fully staffed for the entire year. And
you see the results. It's a significant
[1:44:20]
decline. Now, these 20 seconds to some
people might not seem to a lot. might
[1:44:26]
not seem to be a lot, but when you're
that person and you're on the phone with
[1:44:30]
911 and you need a police officer at
your house immediately because something
[1:44:34]
is happening, that 22nd makes a big
difference. And so I I thank council for
[1:44:39]
listening to us and for supporting us in
this because it is having an impact on
[1:44:44]
safety in our community.
Uh, one of the uh getting near the end,
[1:44:49]
one of the topics I want to talk to you
about, again, an area where we need to
[1:44:52]
see improvement is in traffic
collisions. You can see we've got four
[1:44:56]
years in a row of increases in traffic
collisions. Uh significantly actually
[1:45:02]
over the four years we're up to 754
traffic collisions. So what we've done
[1:45:06]
is we know that our traffic collisions
primarily happen at our intersections.
[1:45:10]
And so we looked at our top five
intersections. We assigned a traffic
[1:45:14]
investigator to look at each one of
those intersections. They go out
[1:45:17]
personally, make observations to see
what kind of violations they're seeing
[1:45:21]
out there, to look at the engineering
around it, to look at the environment,
[1:45:25]
to see if there's anything we can do.
They look at the data. Each traffic
[1:45:29]
collision that we investigate in Camaro,
we determine what the primary collision
[1:45:33]
factor is. So, we look at that primary
collision factor from the perspective of
[1:45:37]
that intersection. Um, we make calls to
our traffic engineers, our partners over
[1:45:41]
here in Cam Rio at the city, and if we
have suggestions, maybe we need to
[1:45:46]
lengthen the time that a light stays
yellow because we're seeing some issues
[1:45:49]
with that. Um, maybe we need to have
signage there because we have a lot of
[1:45:53]
pedestrians walking and we need to
highlight that we have crosswalks. We're
[1:45:56]
working on all five of those
intersections and we've come up with
[1:45:59]
some suggestions. We've come up with
some enforcement uh changes that we're
[1:46:03]
making to address those to bring those
traffic collisions down. One of those
[1:46:07]
things is quite frankly we need to write
more tickets. We have our third year in
[1:46:11]
a row where our ticket writing for
hazardous violations is down
[1:46:15]
significantly. I don't think it's an
accident that our traffic collisions are
[1:46:19]
up significantly. Study after study
after study shows the direct correlation
[1:46:23]
between those two. So, we are looking to
write more traffic citations. Um it
[1:46:28]
doesn't necessarily make our residents
happy, but safety is something that's of
[1:46:32]
paramount important. Roadway safety is
of paramount importance. So, we're going
[1:46:35]
to be looking to do that. Uh, we will be
looking to transition two of our four
[1:46:41]
traffic cars. They drive around in
patrol Taho
[1:46:44]
motorcycles. We already have two
motorcycle units in Cam Rio. We're
[1:46:48]
looking to add two more. Um, we've we've
made the purchase of those bikes
[1:46:53]
already. And we know that being on
motorcycles allows them to be more
[1:46:58]
nimble. It allows them to catch up to
violators much quicker than those patrol
[1:47:02]
Taho. It allows them to sit in places
where they're not quite as noticeable.
[1:47:06]
Um, you've heard of the saying black and
white fever. A lot of times when people
[1:47:10]
see a police car, those Taho are giant.
They're marked. People are on their best
[1:47:15]
behavior. We like that, but we can't be
in every place all the time. And so, we
[1:47:19]
will be transitioning two of our patrol
Taho into patrol motorcycles to help us
[1:47:24]
uh write additional hazardous violation
citation and help bring these collision
[1:47:28]
numbers down once and for all.
Uh just a snapshot, we did issue 3,700
[1:47:35]
total uh citations last year for speed,
distracted driving, and other hazardous
[1:47:40]
be behavior. We did three grant-f funed
DUI checkpoints. I'm happy to say that
[1:47:44]
we only made three arrests for DUI and
15 citations. We would love for our
[1:47:51]
community to stop driving drunk so that
we saw zero arrests at those DUI
[1:47:54]
checkpoints. Uh I'm not unhappy when I
see no arrests after uh you know a
[1:47:59]
Friday night with five or six hours. I'm
really happy because we screen thousands
[1:48:04]
of call cars coming through those and if
we can get those cars coming through
[1:48:07]
there and people are not driving drunk
that's a win for us. That's a positive.
[1:48:12]
Uh we did focus on DUI collisions and
arrests last year and we made 206 DUI
[1:48:16]
arrests. One area you um may have
already heard that we're focusing on and
[1:48:21]
that you will see us continue to focus
on is ebike safety. We did presentations
[1:48:26]
to over 1500 students. We have started a
very aggressive enforcement campaign the
[1:48:31]
last three weeks uh four weeks uh where
we are targeting certain schools, the
[1:48:36]
high schools in particular and the
middle schools where we're seeing the
[1:48:39]
most egregious activity and we are
taking a zero tolerance approach to any
[1:48:43]
violations with kids on bicycles. Um,
the information has been put out to
[1:48:48]
parents over and over and over through
press releases through our school
[1:48:51]
district, both Pleasant Valley and
Oxnard Union. They've been great
[1:48:54]
partners in getting information out and
we still haven't seen a correction in
[1:48:57]
behavior. And so over the last few
weeks, we have towed some unlawful
[1:49:02]
ebikes. We will continue to do that. We
will continue to issue citations uh
[1:49:07]
because we need to change the behavior
to make this uh our kids ride those
[1:49:11]
bicycles much more safely throughout our
community.
[1:49:16]
I'll give you some time to read this
while I talk. Uh, but this is one area
[1:49:20]
where I am most proud of the work that
our deputy sheriffs do. Uh, community
[1:49:25]
engagement is critical for us to
continue to maintain trust in our
[1:49:30]
community, to continue to maintain the
positive relationships that we have, and
[1:49:35]
to continue to build upon those
relationships. This list is not
[1:49:38]
comprehensive, but it's a snapshot of
just some of the things that we could
[1:49:42]
do. And it's all I could honestly fit in
two columns on one slide. Um, but I
[1:49:47]
could add a whole another slide with two
more columns of things that we do. Uh,
[1:49:52]
it doesn't matter who you are in this
community community, what your status
[1:49:56]
is, whether you live here, whether you
go to school here, whether you work
[1:50:00]
here, or whether you're just visiting.
Our deputies are everywhere in this
[1:50:03]
community engaging people in a positive
way. And I'm telling you because I've
[1:50:08]
personally been out doing it. I've been
at schools. I've been at churches. I
[1:50:12]
coach youth sports. And I've I've been
able to do that in uniform. And I think
[1:50:16]
it's a great way to build relationships
between parents and kids. Uh the
[1:50:21]
positive relationships that we build uh
and the diversity of our outreach is
[1:50:26]
second to none. I don't think anybody
does it the way Camrio Police Department
[1:50:30]
does. And I think it pays off every
single day when we continue to be
[1:50:34]
deliberate about building positive
relationships and providing
[1:50:37]
opportunities for people to come and
meet us and for us to be meeting people
[1:50:41]
as well.
And this is just a little picture of
[1:50:45]
some of the things we've done. Uh we
really focus heavily on engaging with
[1:50:50]
kids. We adults sometimes have our minds
made up and it's hard to change our
[1:50:55]
minds, but kids uh kids are they're
open-minded and we have a great time
[1:51:03]
reading to kids, going to coffee with
the cops at their schools, letting them
[1:51:07]
jump on our motorcycles, play with our
canines, and just overall building great
[1:51:11]
relationships with the kids.
So, moving forward, what are some of the
[1:51:15]
challenges for law enforcement?
Obviously, recruitment, retention, and
[1:51:18]
wellness is is going to be a a problem
for us. It's going to be a challenge for
[1:51:23]
us all the time. Um, we do work hard to
recruit only the best at the Ventura
[1:51:29]
County Sheriff's Office. We've got a
great track record of that. The process
[1:51:32]
is rigorous. It's incredibly difficult
to become a deputy sheriff. Only one out
[1:51:37]
of every hundred applicant ever becomes
a deputy sheriff, and those numbers are
[1:51:41]
pretty incredible. Um, wellness is a new
focus for our agency. Uh let's be
[1:51:47]
honest, this is a difficult job. There's
a tremendous amount of stress that goes
[1:51:51]
along with it. It's not just stress on
the deputy sheriff's, it's stress on our
[1:51:55]
professional staff members and perhaps
more importantly, it's stress on our
[1:51:58]
family members at home. And so we've
made a big push focusing on wellness,
[1:52:03]
offering up opportunities to hear other
people who have made mistakes and hear
[1:52:08]
how they've dug out from under those
mistakes that they've made. we make
[1:52:11]
those opportunities available for family
members as well and I think we've done a
[1:52:15]
great job on that and we will continue
to focus on that moving forward. Uh
[1:52:19]
technology AI and their ethical and
transparent use are critical to
[1:52:22]
providing enhanced public safety here.
We've talked about LPRs in the last few
[1:52:26]
months and we continue to see uh
incredible benefit they provide. I'm I I
[1:52:32]
think I would be remiss in not reporting
to this council that last week we had a
[1:52:36]
homicide uh in Oldtown Camaro.
And within a very short time, our
[1:52:42]
license plate reader is what identified
the suspect in that homicide. That guy
[1:52:47]
was in custody before we all woke up and
went to work the next morning. They're
[1:52:51]
an incredible tool. They're a valuable
tool when used ethically and when used
[1:52:55]
transparently. And we do that at the
Ventura County Sheriff's Office.
[1:52:59]
Um all of uh all of the things we talked
about here today go towards public trust
[1:53:04]
and transparency. Uh the police
throughout our country operate in highly
[1:53:09]
polarized environments and us ensuring
transparency is critical for us to
[1:53:14]
maintain and build trust. We communicate
to the c to the public in as close to
[1:53:18]
real time as possible to ensure they
have up-to-date information on critical
[1:53:23]
incidents as they happen in Camaro. We
are voluntarily cooperative and
[1:53:28]
transparent when things don't go right,
as evidenced by our previous discussion
[1:53:31]
on license plate reader data. The work
we do is available for all to see
[1:53:36]
through our public transparency
dashboards on the sheriff's website,
[1:53:39]
capturing data on arrests, contacts, use
of force incidents, and much much more.
[1:53:45]
Uh we have cameras that capture every
single one of our interactions with the
[1:53:48]
public, both worn on our deputies chest
and in our patrol cars. Nearly every
[1:53:54]
single move our deputy sheriffs make is
recorded on camera. We open our doors to
[1:53:59]
members of the public through two two
citizenmies every year. I think we
[1:54:03]
graduated about 50 plus people in our
citizens academy last year. And we have
[1:54:08]
we open up to ride alongs. We have
dozens of ride alongs by members of the
[1:54:12]
public as long as you can pass the small
background check that we do. Uh all of
[1:54:16]
this pays off with a community that's
incredibly supportive of the work our
[1:54:20]
women and men do. and we will not take
that support for granted. We will
[1:54:25]
continue to be present for the public in
very meaningful ways that continues to
[1:54:29]
build trust and legitimacy in our
community. Uh with that, I want to
[1:54:34]
reiterate that we have some of the most
compassionate, hardworking, and
[1:54:38]
professional women and men working at
the Camrial Police Department. From our
[1:54:42]
professional staff working behind the
scenes to keep the PD running to our
[1:54:45]
uniform deputies on the streets
operating as the face of law
[1:54:48]
enforcement, our team is committed to
the high level of service that our
[1:54:52]
community has come to expect from us. I
thank the council. I thank the city
[1:54:56]
manager and assistant city manager and
the rest of the staff at city hall uh
[1:55:00]
for the support they've shown the
sheriff's office and the Camero Police
[1:55:03]
Department over the years. And I'd be
very happy to answer any questions you
[1:55:07]
all might have.
>> Thank you. I'm going to call on Mr.
[1:55:11]
killed D first because I saw him writing
nonstop.
[1:55:16]
» Um, just briefly, um, Eric, I have to
say that, well, first of all, laundry
[1:55:24]
detergent, that was kind of interesting.
I I would have never guessed that.
[1:55:28]
That's kind of kind of interesting. Um,
I was here when we approved the funding
[1:55:33]
for the cover car. I'm pleased to see
that um, it's effective. I thought it
[1:55:39]
would be and I was uh uh you know very
pleased that uh we look at this an
[1:55:45]
investment in public safety and I think
that's uh that's worked out as as such.
[1:55:51]
Um I also um our way of giving back to
our uh police department here. We try to
[1:55:58]
give way give back in many separate ways
but not the least of it and one of the
[1:56:04]
things that I'm so so happy that we've
been able to do is the L day dinner and
[1:56:09]
I believe we're one if not the only city
that still uh provides this and it's uh
[1:56:18]
um a thankfulness and a thank thanking
our
[1:56:22]
officers and all of the folks that work
at the police department sworn sworn or
[1:56:28]
nonsworn
uh to let them know that they matter,
[1:56:33]
that they care. We care for them. We
look at them as family even though it's
[1:56:39]
a contract from the Ventura County. We
look at them as our own born and bred
[1:56:46]
public servants of Camaro. And I'm
really happy that uh this council and
[1:56:51]
previous councils are able to afford
that that honor and privilege to those
[1:56:56]
folks that are able to uh to attend
that. So um always look forward to this.
[1:57:01]
Thank you for your stellar performance
here and your eloquence. Uh you make a
[1:57:07]
very complicated subject for me
relatively easy and I commend you that.
[1:57:12]
And if you would commend all your staff
there at the uh Cambria Police
[1:57:16]
Department that uh they matter, they
care and we're going to do our best to
[1:57:21]
support them to the best of our ability.
>> Thank you, Council Member Kildy. And I I
[1:57:26]
would like to add that um one of our uh
most expectant days is the law law night
[1:57:32]
dinner. Our people look forward to it
all year long. We've been planning it
[1:57:36]
now for the last month and a half. We're
uh very excited about it. I also like to
[1:57:40]
add that a lot of the deputy sheriffs
who work out of Camrio uh police
[1:57:43]
department live here in Cam Rio and when
they leave for promotion or other
[1:57:47]
assignments, they all want to come back
here. Um they feel the support that we
[1:57:52]
have from city hall and they feel the
support that we have
[1:57:56]
» uh from our residents in this city. It's
I've worked in every contract city. It's
[1:58:00]
unlike uh what we have here and we
appreciate that.
[1:58:04]
» Thank you,
>> Council Member Santangelo.
[1:58:08]
» Thank you. Just a couple comments. Um I
was really happy to see the decrease in
[1:58:13]
the response times because I know um we
had quite a few presentations on it from
[1:58:18]
you if I remember correctly. Um and I
think it was a really important addition
[1:58:24]
to the police force in our city and it
made sense and I'm um really glad to see
[1:58:29]
that it panned out the way we thought it
would and that it's really um brought
[1:58:33]
down those response times. Um, I also
just found it really interesting that
[1:58:38]
the more tickets you give, the less
collisions. So, that's just just found
[1:58:42]
that really interesting. Um, and my
question to you is, is there anything
[1:58:46]
that the city can do to better support
you and your efforts?
[1:58:49]
» Um, like I've said, Council Member
Santangelo, we do feel very well
[1:58:53]
supported. Um, but we are coming up on
budget season, so um, be careful what
[1:58:58]
you wish for because, you know, I may
have I may have a request for you all
[1:59:02]
coming up.
Thanks for that.
[1:59:06]
» Just so you know, Mr. City Manager,
that's your job to vet the requests. Mr.
[1:59:11]
Trembley.
Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Eric, wonderful
[1:59:16]
presentation. Um the three most
important things that hit home to me is
[1:59:20]
number one on the response times and
being able to take uh a 7.13
[1:59:27]
uh minute response time and bring it
down to 6.76 and have it equate to what
[1:59:32]
was occurring even precoid is a success.
um echo what Susan and Kevin said in
[1:59:39]
their eloquent comments about the
importance of the response times. And
[1:59:44]
you can actually see it in the
statistics because if I wrote this down
[1:59:47]
correctly, 370 shoplifts at the outlets
and the and the um target center um 177
[1:59:57]
OT related, the top 26 suspects arrested
responsible for 251 shoplifts. So what
[2:00:04]
happens when that occurs? deputies are
all going over to that area town and I'm
[2:00:08]
privileged to be elected from the area
town where there wasn't the east side
[2:00:12]
where there wasn't as good coverage. Uh
and I think that has been uh that has
[2:00:17]
been rectified and from a contextual
standpoint it also shows I think the
[2:00:22]
public the importance this city spends
in excess of $20 million per year in
[2:00:28]
public safety. It is the most it is it
is the the highest level of spending uh
[2:00:34]
in our general fund revenue on on any
matter. I think it uh makes a real
[2:00:39]
statement as to this council's and if
it's okay I'm going to be collective
[2:00:43]
collective commitment to public safety
because I know all of my colleagues are
[2:00:47]
really focused on our on our public
safety standings. So and that's about
[2:00:52]
onethird of our general fund revenues
each year. So that over that that that
[2:00:57]
states the importance uh on traffic
collisions. I like the fact that you're
[2:01:01]
transitioning two Taho
officers. And I do want to note I think
[2:01:06]
in 2024
um I know you had at least one
[2:01:09]
motorcycle officer who was out for an
extended period of time uh and you had
[2:01:14]
issues trying to fill that. So hopefully
2025 it just got a little bit better in
[2:01:19]
terms of coverage and and going from
there. And then finally on community
[2:01:23]
engagement,
um, you know, we had one PowerPoint
[2:01:27]
slide and I think Eric kind of cut it
short. I mean, he had both columns
[2:01:32]
filled.
I'm not aware of any other law
[2:01:35]
enforcement agency
and I know quite a few that has the
[2:01:40]
extent of outreach that VCSO has and
Camaro Police Department. So, I really
[2:01:46]
want to compliment you. Uh compliment uh
commend your deputies, all of your
[2:01:51]
staff, everybody uh at the sheriff's
office, everybody at Camaro PD. Uh thank
[2:01:56]
you because this council I know puts, if
it's okay to say it, collect know that I
[2:02:02]
know that this council puts a real
premium on public safety. It's like our
[2:02:06]
number one issue. So, thanks for a a
very interesting uh educational report.
[2:02:11]
Keep making progress.
>> Thank you, Council Member Treble. And if
[2:02:14]
I can add one thing, I did not talk
about it uh in the presentation, but I
[2:02:18]
know it is in there. Those 26 arrestes
who committed over who created over 250
[2:02:24]
victims uh at our outlets in Camrio Town
Center, all were from outside the city
[2:02:29]
of Camrio. Every one of them,
>> Madame Vice Mayor,
[2:02:34]
» uh thank you. Thank you, Chief Jennison,
for your very thorough presentation and
[2:02:39]
also for the very noble service that you
and your team provide to our
[2:02:45]
constituents here in the city of Camaro.
Um, I will share a personal story. When
[2:02:51]
I was a little girl, I would often spend
my summers out in Wilmington, San Pedro,
[2:02:59]
that area. And uh
it it was quite often sadly that we can
[2:03:07]
hear gunshots
um or that we could hear neighbors being
[2:03:12]
very violent.
And I remember experiencing some of that
[2:03:17]
and and as a little girl being like
seven or eight years old thinking, "Oh
[2:03:21]
my gosh, we need to call the police."
and family members,
[2:03:26]
grandparents and my theos who I lived
with, they would almost say like, "Well,
[2:03:30]
the police are not really going to come.
We can try calling, but they're not
[2:03:34]
going to come." And many times and and
actually now I do have um some family
[2:03:40]
members who went into policing um who
lived in in those areas. Um, and many
[2:03:45]
times I know that I will be criticized
for being quote too pro police. And my
[2:03:52]
answer is, what is the alternative?
Because I've seen the alternative
[2:03:58]
and I think Sheriff Fryhoff put it best
when I recently saw him and he said,
[2:04:03]
"Public safety is for everyone." And so
I think that is uh the continued goal. I
[2:04:10]
am very proud of the work that you're
doing um that your team is doing. Of
[2:04:15]
course, I think with everything there's
always room for for improvement and I'm
[2:04:18]
glad that you've always been open to
that.
[2:04:21]
A question that I do have is regard and
I think you answered a little bit of
[2:04:26]
that uh but in terms of the different
crimes.
[2:04:30]
Do we have any data on
who is from Camrio and who folks are not
[2:04:36]
regarding the crimes against property
people and society or are we able to
[2:04:42]
search for that data?
>> We can search for that data. I can tell
[2:04:45]
you um from the outlets and the theft
related perspective uh the the
[2:04:51]
overwhelming majority are coming from
outside the city. Uh even many from
[2:04:55]
outside the county. Los Angeles imports
a lot of crime here. I've said it
[2:05:00]
before, our outlets are a great
destination for shopping
[2:05:04]
» for good guys and bad guys. And so we do
import a lot of crime because of the
[2:05:08]
outlets. Um, but they've shown a a real
willingness to partner with us to try
[2:05:14]
and make it the best and safest
experience for people to come there uh
[2:05:18]
and shop. Um, I can tell you, you know,
I talked about the increase in domestic
[2:05:23]
violence related crimes and arrests. The
domestic violence are generally local.
[2:05:28]
There are people who are already living
here. Um, a lot of the DUI arrests are
[2:05:33]
people who are driving from a local
establishment home. So, it's kind of
[2:05:37]
crime dependent.
>> Okay. So some of those crimes we do see
[2:05:39]
a lot of people who are residents here
who live here who are the suspects in
[2:05:43]
those crimes and who are arrested and in
other crime categories we see people who
[2:05:47]
are from outside the city who are
arrested for those crimes. So we do we
[2:05:51]
do know and it kind of depends upon
crime.
[2:05:53]
» Okay. Thank you so much. And my other
question is I think I'm I'm trying to
[2:05:58]
understand this. So, at the Camaro
outlets, you said that if there is
[2:06:05]
um if if they're stealing um something,
they need to call the loss prevention
[2:06:10]
before calling the police. That sounds
really odd to me.
[2:06:12]
» Yeah, it is really odd. Sounds odd to
us, too. And we work with them all the
[2:06:15]
time uh on figuring out ways we can do
that better. But, you know, each one of
[2:06:18]
those stores is owned by the individual
corporation, and they all have their own
[2:06:23]
corporate policies. Uh some of the
corporations, they're really aggressive.
[2:06:27]
I will tell you, Target has incredible
loss prevention officers and they are
[2:06:32]
very quick to call us and that's why our
number one arrest location is Target.
[2:06:36]
Other ones have to call a corporation
wherever that might be, explain what the
[2:06:40]
problem is and then get permission
before they call us. We're working with
[2:06:44]
them with them on that to try and find
solutions and workarounds to that. But,
[2:06:48]
you know, it is uh at times a hindrance.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. That's all that
[2:06:53]
I have. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh, quick question,
[2:06:56]
Commander.
You're going to add two motor officers,
[2:07:00]
but it's not going to cost the city any
more money, right?
[2:07:03]
» That's correct. It's actually going to
save us money in the long run. Uh, a
[2:07:06]
patrol Tahoe is a more expensive vehicle
to purchase and to upfit. We get about
[2:07:12]
100,000 miles out of a patrol Tahoe. Our
motorcycles, we don't get as many miles
[2:07:17]
out of them, but it takes longer to to
mile them out, and they cost about half
[2:07:21]
the price of a patrol Tahoe. So, we'll
probably get four to six years driving a
[2:07:26]
motorcycle at about half the cost of a
of a Tahoe.
[2:07:30]
» And we're not adding any staffing.
You're just moving two traffic
[2:07:34]
enforcement officers out of the Tahoe
onto motorcycles.
[2:07:37]
» That's correct.
>> Hopefully, they get good training.
[2:07:40]
» They will.
>> Um, I appreciate the community outreach.
[2:07:43]
Um, I'm aware of it because I have a
daughter involved in the education field
[2:07:49]
in Camaro and I know the frequency of
your school resource officers and other
[2:07:55]
activities, the coffee with the cops
that you do at all the schools and it
[2:07:59]
mirrors something that I thought a long
long time ago is we can influence our
[2:08:05]
young people and create the
relationships instead of like if you see
[2:08:10]
that police officer over there and you
do that again, I'm going to tell him.
[2:08:14]
And I'm glad that's no longer a common
theme amongst most parents. It was a
[2:08:19]
common theme with my mother at one time,
but um you may have experienced that. Um
[2:08:25]
I also think that what my other council
members said, I don't think there's
[2:08:31]
another police department in this county
or probably just about anywhere that has
[2:08:36]
the community outreach efforts that the
Camrio Police Department does for this
[2:08:40]
city. And I know that it's a common
theme that we're a third of the cost of
[2:08:46]
the city's general fund, but if you went
to a fullervice city, it'd be 50% of
[2:08:51]
your cost of your general fund. So, I
think we're getting good bang for the
[2:08:56]
buck. And I do have to thank you
publicly for not sharing crime stats
[2:09:02]
from 1999 to 2004 to compare them to
today. And this is the first time you
[2:09:08]
haven't done that. And I appreciate it.
All of my council members I've had the
[2:09:12]
opportunity to serve with on the public
safety and emergency preparedness
[2:09:17]
committee and I am proud to say from
firsthand experience, there has been
[2:09:21]
nothing but whole who wholesale support
from this entire council when you've
[2:09:26]
brought requests to the council. There
has been no there's been a lot of
[2:09:29]
questions um and it dealt with educating
about what a 24-hour car was or an
[2:09:35]
overlap car, but there has never been
any hesitation on the part of any of my
[2:09:39]
colleagues up here in the last three
years to listen, to make the decision,
[2:09:44]
and to do what we could to support the
police department to provide a safe
[2:09:50]
community for the residents of Camaro.
And thank you for that.
[2:09:55]
» Thank you.
Next, we will move to the consent
[2:09:59]
calendar items E through G. Madame
clerk, are there any public comments on
[2:10:04]
consent?
>> There's one uh speaker Spencer Richie,
[2:10:10]
» I just noted the council comments. Did
we do those?
[2:10:13]
» Oh, I'm sorry.
>> You can get her, but she's got about 10
[2:10:17]
minutes. Um, council comments. I did I
checked it off. Maybe it was
[2:10:23]
wishful thinking. Um, Mr. Trembley, how
about you go first?
[2:10:28]
» Sure. Uh, meetings attended since March
25, uh, the March 26, uh, meeting of the
[2:10:34]
policy committee with council member
Santangelo on an April 3 VCTC. And
[2:10:39]
that's it for me, Mr. Kild.
>> Yes. Um, meetings attended April 2nd, we
[2:10:46]
had a VRSD uh, meeting. I'd like to
thank Eric Zets uh, for last council
[2:10:52]
meeting uh, being here. And if any
council members uh would like to take a
[2:10:57]
tour of our landfill, let me know. We
can certainly set it up. And that's all
[2:11:01]
I have.
>> Council member Santangelo.
[2:11:06]
» Thank you. On March 26th with Council
Member Trembley, I went to the policy
[2:11:11]
committee on April 2nd, I had Clean
Power Alliance board of directors. And
[2:11:16]
earlier today, April 8th, was the mobile
home rent stabilization ordinance ad hoc
[2:11:22]
committee with Dr. Martinez Bravo. And
that's all I have.
[2:11:25]
» Vice Mayor,
>> thank you. April 1st, I met with mobile
[2:11:29]
home constituents to hear their
concerns. And then April 8th, I today
[2:11:35]
was the mobile home ad hoc uh committee
or meeting with council member
[2:11:39]
Santangelo. And I just wanted to thank
all of the home residents who have
[2:11:44]
voiced their concerns either via email
or who were here earlier. Um, just
[2:11:49]
wanted to say that I hear you and please
know that I remain committed to uh
[2:11:53]
supporting our community and working in
the best interest of of our Camrio
[2:11:58]
residents. Um, and actually I would also
like to take this opportunity to proudly
[2:12:04]
congratulate Camrio's very own Gabriella
Hakis and the entire UCLA uh women's
[2:12:10]
basketball team on their incredible
championship victory. Super proud of
[2:12:14]
them. Thank you.
Thank you. On April 2nd, I had an RDP
[2:12:20]
meeting. I've had several meetings,
nonreportable. I do want to talk about a
[2:12:25]
business visit. One of the things that's
enjoyable this year is going out with
[2:12:30]
our manager of economic development, um
the city manager, and Bradley, our
[2:12:36]
director of community development, and
visiting some of the high- techch
[2:12:40]
companies that I wasn't always aware of.
I've lived here since 1979 and have
[2:12:46]
driven by a number of these buildings a
100 million times and never realized
[2:12:51]
what was there. And this past week along
with uh Mr. Ramirez and George Winkler
[2:12:56]
and Bradley, we visited a local company,
Lucix Corporation, which was founded by
[2:13:02]
a husband and wife in Camaro on their
dining room table or their kitchen
[2:13:08]
countertop. And it's a high-tech
communication industry that has their
[2:13:13]
devices on satellites, etc. And they
employ 105 people in Camaro. And they
[2:13:20]
expect to have fairly significant growth
over the next five years. And the people
[2:13:25]
they're employing are engineers. They're
highpaying
[2:13:30]
um jobs and they're trying to recruit
people. In fact, we met some young
[2:13:35]
people from was it Georgia Tech?
um which made our director of community
[2:13:41]
development happy. It's his alma mater.
But um another company we visited
[2:13:47]
recently has 300 employees and there are
again many engineers and high-paying
[2:13:52]
jobs. So we have a lot of opportunity in
Camaro and I look forward to opportunity
[2:13:58]
moving forward. Um I just have a
question for the city manager. Um, when
[2:14:04]
does the emergency ordinance on the rent
stabilization expire and when can we
[2:14:09]
expect to see this matter on the agenda
so we can address it?
[2:14:15]
Uh, we we are working on it diligently.
I think we're going to put the places on
[2:14:19]
the next next uh council meetings
agenda. As far as expiration, I'd have
[2:14:23]
to defer to the city clerk city attorney
on that.
[2:14:26]
» I believe it's April 20th or 21st. So,
right before the next meeting. Yeah,
[2:14:35]
» thank you.
And did Spencer come back? She did not.
[2:14:41]
So, we will
move on to item H. But before we take up
[2:14:47]
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's go back to the
consent calendar.
[2:14:51]
» Madame Clerk, other than Spencer, any
speakers on the consent calendar?
[2:14:56]
» No other speakers.
>> Hearing none. Any questions from
[2:14:59]
council? Move.
>> I'll second.
[2:15:02]
» We have a motion in a second. Roll call,
please.
[2:15:05]
» Council member Santangelo,
>> yes.
[2:15:07]
» Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo,
>> yes.
[2:15:09]
» Council member Kildy,
>> yes.
[2:15:11]
» Council member Trembley,
>> yes.
[2:15:13]
» Mayor Tennyson,
>> yes.
[2:15:15]
» And with that, we will take Thank you.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[2:15:18]
» That passes unanimously.
>> I I got a note that asked for a break.
[2:15:21]
So, with that, we will take a 10-minute
recess before we go on to item H on the
[2:15:27]
agenda.
[2:15:31]
6:45 and 30 seconds.
[2:24:01]
I see all of my fellow council members
are back. So, we will reconvene the
[2:24:06]
meeting of the Camrio City Council and
the Camrio Sanitary District one minute
[2:24:11]
early. Next is item H, the Camrio
Sanitary District Water Reclamation
[2:24:17]
Plant Upgrades Program and Manager
Services. And I believe Mr. Clutzel,
[2:24:23]
this is yours.
>> Yes. Thank you. Thank you, mayor and
[2:24:27]
city council. Also acting as the Camrio
Sanitary District Board of Directors.
[2:24:32]
This item is to consider awarding an
agreement for professional owners
[2:24:36]
advisor services for the water
reclamation plant upgrades project.
[2:24:42]
First, we'll cover some brief background
information. The water reclamation plant
[2:24:47]
or WRP
treatment capacity is rated at 7.25
[2:24:52]
million gallons a day and the current
flow and treatment is at about 3.5
[2:24:58]
million gallons a day uh which is
treated to tertiary standards with the
[2:25:03]
effluent reused for agriculture and
landscape irrigation. Original
[2:25:08]
construction is nearly 70 years old with
various expansions and upgrades over the
[2:25:13]
years. The plant's been wellmaintained,
but now needs significant upgrades.
[2:25:20]
A wastewater master plan completed by
WSC in 2022 provided planning level
[2:25:24]
analysis and initial condition
assessment of the plant to focus more
[2:25:29]
specifically on what upgrades upgrades
are needed and develop alternatives to
[2:25:33]
accomplish those upgrades.
Hazen and Sawyer was then hired and
[2:25:38]
built further on the master plan
analysis, meeting on site with plan
[2:25:42]
operations staff and preparing numerous
detailed technical reports to develop
[2:25:46]
off-site and on-site alternatives for
the upgrades, including initial design
[2:25:50]
and budgetary considerations.
Additionally, Fuelman Rolap and
[2:25:56]
Associates has been hired to develop a
long range financial plan to determine
[2:26:00]
the district's funding capacity for the
project and to lay out a financial
[2:26:04]
roadmap to fund the needed upgrades.
[2:26:09]
As for the location, the WRP is at the
end of Howard Road on an approximately
[2:26:14]
20 acres along Kaneo Creek and there's
room on those 20 acres to accommodate
[2:26:21]
upgrades on site by rehabilitating
existing facilities and/or constructing
[2:26:26]
replacement facilities.
The district also owns 50 acres
[2:26:31]
immediately to the west, which allows
the opportunity to fully explore all
[2:26:35]
options for upgrading a plant, including
possible use of a portion of the 50 acre
[2:26:40]
site.
[2:26:44]
The WRP upgrades project is a
generational investment into critical
[2:26:48]
infrastructure, the largest capital
project in the city and district's
[2:26:52]
history. The sheer size and complexity
of the project along with significant
[2:26:56]
funding requirements call for an
independent owner's adviser to represent
[2:27:01]
the city's interest throughout the
entire project.
[2:27:06]
The key characteristics that an owner
adviser brings to the project include
[2:27:11]
technical expertise and overall project
management.
[2:27:16]
The owner advisor is an independent
element uh which is independent from uh
[2:27:22]
contractors and vendors involved in the
project
[2:27:26]
and it provides a bridging of the gap
between complex technical requirements
[2:27:32]
and decision milestones.
The owner's adviser also uh is acting in
[2:27:39]
the interest to of the city to protect
those interests many varied interests
[2:27:43]
and ensures the project success.
More specifically, an owner's adviser is
[2:27:50]
needed for this WRP upgrades project to
provide technical expert assistance to
[2:27:56]
navigate the very large complex
multi-year project through completion
[2:28:02]
and also to explore feasibility of
opportunities to maximize the WRP
[2:28:06]
effluent reuse
and also achieve affordability and
[2:28:10]
regulatory compliance throughout the
entire project.
[2:28:14]
The owner's adviserss needed to identify
and coordinate the preferred procurement
[2:28:19]
method for the upgrades
and then we'll provide continued
[2:28:24]
collaboration of all stakeholders
involved including WRP operations staff
[2:28:31]
to take the steps forward toward hiring
an owner's adviser. staff formed a
[2:28:36]
project governance team or gov team made
up of staff from multiple departments
[2:28:40]
including city manager's office,
finance, facilities, fleet and
[2:28:44]
technology, public communications,
public works, capital projects and
[2:28:49]
sanitary district operations.
The gov team has collaborated very
[2:28:54]
closely every step of the way thus far
and will continue to guide the project
[2:28:58]
through to completion.
The process to select and hire an
[2:29:03]
owner's adviser included the gov team
developing and advertising a request for
[2:29:07]
proposals to provide a specific scope of
services.
[2:29:11]
Five five proposals were received from
Jacobs, Corollo, Parsons, MKN, and M&S.
[2:29:21]
An ad hoc committee made up of the mayor
and council member Trembley and three
[2:29:25]
gov team members thoroughly reviewed all
five proposals, conducted interviews,
[2:29:31]
and selected Jacobs based on their
approach to the project, their
[2:29:35]
qualifications, and direct experience
providing the same services for similar
[2:29:40]
projects.
[2:29:44]
Staff worked very closely with Jacobs to
refine the scope of work, which provides
[2:29:48]
a holistic evaluation of the WRP
upgrades program sequenced in phases to
[2:29:54]
reduce risk and maintain rateayer
affordability.
[2:30:00]
Phase 1A is a onewater affordability and
technical analysis producing a
[2:30:06]
recommended WRP upgrades and procurement
method.
[2:30:11]
Then phase 1B will provide detailed
design and procurement documents for the
[2:30:17]
WRP upgrades
followed by phase 2 which will provide
[2:30:21]
technical support and construction
management of WRP upgrades.
[2:30:29]
Staff is recommending award of the phase
one scope of work to Jacobs which will
[2:30:34]
be will be performed over the next 20
months or so. The scope of work for
[2:30:39]
phases 1B and phase 2 will be finalized
as phase 1A is completed with award of
[2:30:45]
those phases at that later time.
Task one covers program management
[2:30:52]
including many things uh along in
including uh regular project meetings.
[2:30:58]
Task two is technical studies and
program definition.
[2:31:03]
Task three covers environmental and
regulatory compliance.
[2:31:07]
Task four is for financial and economic
support.
[2:31:12]
Task five is identifying and moving
towards a selection of the project
[2:31:17]
delivery method. And task six includes
targeted technical studies. Uh there's
[2:31:23]
very many details and and that make up
each of these tasks that are further
[2:31:28]
defined in the scope of work that's
attached to the uh proposed agreement.
[2:31:33]
Uh this task six includes numerous
in-depth technical studies targeted at
[2:31:38]
specific items including optimization of
plant operations, alternatives for
[2:31:42]
preliminary treatment, disinfection and
odor control, automation of process
[2:31:47]
controls, flooding impacts, energy use,
and exploring all potential
[2:31:52]
opportunities for cost-effective reuse
of the treated effluent.
[2:31:58]
Taken in total, the phase 1A scope of
work is structured to complete a
[2:32:02]
onewaterbased affordability and
technical analysis resulting in a
[2:32:07]
recommended WRP upgrade program and
procurement method for CSD board
[2:32:12]
consideration.
The one water approach is focused on
[2:32:16]
maximizing the use of all local water
supplies in the most cost-effective way
[2:32:21]
to secure a reliable portfolio of water
for the city well into the future while
[2:32:27]
minimizing impacts to water and
wastewater rate payers.
[2:32:32]
The initial next steps would be a
project kickoff workshop workshop with
[2:32:37]
the CSD board along with governance and
chartering efforts to get things moving
[2:32:44]
uh amongst the various tasks that are
listed here.
[2:32:49]
Another important element of this
project going forward is uh continuous
[2:32:54]
effort related to the funding for the
program. This effort will be coordinated
[2:32:59]
between Jacobs providing the technical
and cost estimated information um in
[2:33:04]
lockep with Felman looking at the
financing options and then our rate
[2:33:09]
consultant Rafelis
um uh folding in their rateayer impacts
[2:33:15]
to that uh funding u process.
So with that brings us to the
[2:33:23]
recommendation before you to authorize
the execution of a professional services
[2:33:27]
agreement with Jacob's project
management company for owners advisor
[2:33:31]
and program manager services for the WRP
upgrades project. That concludes my
[2:33:37]
report and be happy to answer questions.
>> Thank you Mr. Clatzel. I'm going to open
[2:33:41]
up with Council Member Trembley because
of his No,
[2:33:45]
» I have comments. I don't have questions.
>> Oh, no questions. Oh wow. Okay, Mr. Kild
[2:33:50]
questions.
>> Yeah. Um
[2:33:54]
David, um I I' I've been here a while
and I can remember when
[2:34:02]
we had um attempted to do an upgrade
there and the results were less than
[2:34:10]
favorable to what we had hoped
uh for. So my question here is
[2:34:19]
what if we don't do this? In other
words, if we don't do this, does it hold
[2:34:26]
us more
um in a situation where what we're
[2:34:31]
trying to do here, and keep in mind it's
the most expensive project the city's
[2:34:35]
ever attempted. And if we don't do this,
our
[2:34:42]
predictability of being successful in
what we're trying to do, does it go down
[2:34:46]
exponentially? And if it does,
um, how would that affect us and how
[2:34:54]
we're trying to do not only in a
quality,
[2:34:58]
uh, situation, but a coste effective,
uh, situation and providing, as we all
[2:35:04]
know, this necessary service to, um, our
rateayers,
[2:35:09]
» right? Um yeah, the the approach that is
is being proposed here with this
[2:35:15]
extensive scope is to do exactly that is
to is to reduce minimize if not remove
[2:35:21]
the risk that we end up with a similar
situation as the past. Um what this is
[2:35:27]
structured to do is uh very holistic
uh analysis of all elements that need to
[2:35:36]
be considered uh with the extensive uh
need for upgrading uh pretty well the
[2:35:42]
entire operations of our of our
reclamation plant. So, um that's where
[2:35:49]
uh the gov team and along with um
working through this scope to refine it
[2:35:54]
with Jacobs to um identify what really
does need to be done to reduce that risk
[2:36:01]
and and put us on a path towards success
for the for the best cost-effective
[2:36:07]
um solution for the upgrades that are
needed.
[2:36:11]
» Thank you. That's all I have, your
honor. Vice Mayor.
[2:36:15]
» Uh, Mr. Clottel, thank you very much for
the presentation. I have a a quick
[2:36:20]
question. Owner's advisor, is that the
same thing as an owner's representative?
[2:36:27]
» Uh, similar, right? Um, in in that we
use advisor in that um the technical
[2:36:34]
expertise element that is is needed um
is more than just a representative. Um
[2:36:40]
it it's uh it it's an adviser that
represents the city uh represents uh the
[2:36:46]
city's interests um in in all aspects of
of the uh project of the analysis that
[2:36:54]
we'll be looking at. So, um I guess
that's the best way to describe it is
[2:36:58]
it's uh and and Jacobs is a firm that
brings an incredible uh breadth and span
[2:37:05]
of technical expertise in uh all areas
uh that that will be needed here. Uh so
[2:37:12]
it's that it's that technical advisor uh
element to be that representative uh for
[2:37:18]
the for the city for the district moving
forward.
[2:37:21]
» Okay. Thank you. I was doing some
research on my own trying to figure that
[2:37:24]
out. Um, and also for clarification, the
recommendation from today's actions,
[2:37:32]
that would be just to uh focus on the
phase one, that first part.
[2:37:38]
» That's correct. The phase 1 A, correct?
>> 1 A. Okay.
[2:37:41]
» Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. I have no
[2:37:43]
further questions.
>> Council member Santangelo? None. Um, I
[2:37:47]
want to follow up on Mr. Kild's question
and and the way I understood it is in
[2:37:52]
the past we didn't have the results we
wanted when there were upgrades to the
[2:37:56]
WRP but I think part of it was a risk
side of things if we do nothing it's my
[2:38:02]
understanding that a lot of our
facilities and equipment are at or near
[2:38:07]
the end of their life cycle. So if we
did nothing
[2:38:11]
from this moment forward what would the
risks be to the city?
[2:38:15]
» Right. Uh the risk would be um
several items but um having failure of
[2:38:22]
our infrastructure out there then that
would not um treat our wastewater as it
[2:38:28]
needs to be treated on a continuous
basis 247 uh putting us in jeopardy of
[2:38:34]
um complying with the regulatory
requirements that we are under.
[2:38:40]
You also um said when you made the
recommendation of Jacobs in your
[2:38:44]
presentation that they had done similar
projects of this scope and scale for
[2:38:51]
other um entities. Do you have an idea
what some of those other entities are?
[2:38:56]
» That's correct.
>> Yes. Um and and specifically this owner
[2:39:00]
advisors uh um element of providing
those services. Uh most recently one
[2:39:06]
very very closely similar project is for
Los Virgin's water district and in their
[2:39:12]
um uh I'm not sure if I'm using the
exact right term one water um uh uh
[2:39:18]
project very extensive water treatment
um uh process that they're going through
[2:39:25]
multi-million dollar project and and
Jacobs has successfully led them through
[2:39:29]
that owners advisors uh process.
Thank you,
[2:39:35]
madame clerk. Any public comments?
>> Yes, I have two people that want to
[2:39:40]
speak. First, Doug Boyce, followed by
Spencer Richie.
[2:39:49]
» Welcome, Mr. Boyce.
[2:39:54]
» Good evening,
Mayor Tennyson and rest of the council
[2:39:59]
and staff. Um I real quickly uh before I
get started on this um you mentioned in
[2:40:07]
your report please Chief Eric that it
was a 20 second improvement in response
[2:40:12]
time. It's actually 36 seconds. That's
huge as several of the council members
[2:40:18]
also pointed out. So and uh as Dr.
Martinez Bravo mentioned, I think we
[2:40:25]
have a lot to celebrate with uh one of
our lady uh basketball players leading
[2:40:30]
the Bruins to their first national
championship. She was the top scorer in
[2:40:35]
that game. That's huge. I I'm not I'm
come here tonight not as a a a hater or
[2:40:40]
a complainer, but as somebody that wants
full transparency in this this is a
[2:40:45]
massive U project. And so my first
question that I jotted down was very
[2:40:51]
similar to Dr. Martinez Bravo. Is this
$4 million contract just for phase 1A?
[2:40:58]
And if that's true, then then I suspect
that there's going to be a lot more for
[2:41:03]
the rest of the phases. But I think that
is that true? Anyway, that's my question
[2:41:08]
um confirmation. And then the second
that I had real briefly is at this stage
[2:41:13]
I would think that there's already some
sort of an engineer's estimate for the
[2:41:17]
total cost of the project. Uh for full
transparency I would like the public to
[2:41:23]
be aware of that. Thank you.
>> Thank you
[2:41:31]
» Spencer Richie.
[2:41:43]
All right. Hello.
Um, first off, my apologies for um not
[2:41:53]
showing up the public comment earlier
when I was called. Um,
[2:41:58]
I had to use the restroom. Um two,
um
[2:42:05]
I you know whatever the the you know the
city goes with for
[2:42:10]
um for upgrading and
keeping in repair our um our reclamation
[2:42:20]
plant on Howard. Um
that is something that you don't want to
[2:42:26]
skimp on. Um definitely like make sure
you are getting just a good job of it in
[2:42:33]
general because that is that's literally
life-saving infrastructure. like, you
[2:42:39]
know, between
the fact that again, as climate chaos
[2:42:46]
ramps up, obviously
um
[2:42:51]
um we're going like because that's going
to cause our water income to be to grow
[2:42:58]
more and more inconsistent. And then
also especially in light of the whole
[2:43:03]
like Iran um started horm limiting you
know how much fertilizer can get out to
[2:43:09]
the world um that and like you know the
poop ponds at Caly Channel Islands those
[2:43:16]
will be more and more important sources
of local fertilizer as well. So in
[2:43:20]
general
yes we should absolutely you know like
[2:43:27]
make sure we are getting the best of the
best for our um
[2:43:33]
you know our facilities like our water
reclamromation plants and stuff. Um, I
[2:43:38]
think that is a very good use of our
taxpayer funds and what our taxpayer
[2:43:45]
funds should absolutely be spent on.
What and you know if there's any
[2:43:50]
questions about oh my gosh where are we
going to get the money for that because
[2:43:54]
you know like there often is you know
with this city because again fiscal
[2:43:59]
responsibility is like it's pretty much
always been a huge you know city
[2:44:04]
government value. Um
I don't
[2:44:11]
a you know a way you could probably free
up more money is by getting rid of the
[2:44:17]
contract with flock. Um again that is
that's blowing us a lot of city money.
[2:44:24]
Um, we never asked for it and again that
is just we know that ICE and outofstate
[2:44:32]
law enforcement has access to that
material. We again that is serving
[2:44:38]
Camearans to ICE on a silver platter. So
yeah that thank you. Have a nice day.
[2:44:45]
» Thank you Spencer.
Now we will
[2:44:51]
» Now we will go to council comments and
Mr. Trembley.
[2:44:58]
» Thanks uh Mr. Mayor. Um I I have several
comments but but in light of Mr. Boyce's
[2:45:04]
question, let me just pose it to Mr.
Clottel and then I've got a number of
[2:45:07]
comments. Dave, we've been looking at
estimates um for this project uh for the
[2:45:14]
last several years. How would you
describe where we are at at this point?
[2:45:18]
just in terms of general estimates,
>> right? The the work performance so far
[2:45:22]
has uh produced some uh a range uh
bookends if you will of of um options of
[2:45:30]
alternatives for upgrades and um
budgetary estimates for those. Um so uh
[2:45:37]
we don't have anything more certain than
that and that's this next step of
[2:45:43]
further refining and and identifying a
recommended um upgrade alternative uh
[2:45:49]
would would produce a more refined cost
estimate number.
[2:45:54]
» Well, when we were looking when we're
looking on the prior studies that have
[2:45:58]
been done, we were estimating somewhere
in the $200 million range overall.
[2:46:04]
Correct.
>> Correct. Yes. Um,
[2:46:06]
» and that was three years ago,
>> right?
[2:46:09]
» So, from a contextual standpoint, that's
where we are. I I think it's fair to
[2:46:15]
say, although it's very difficult to pin
that down, especially if we end up
[2:46:20]
incrementally approaching this project.
>> Correct.
[2:46:22]
» Okay. All right. Um,
my comments are as follows. Um, the the
[2:46:28]
ad hoc committee, uh, as Mr. Clausel
reported, uh, has been an integral part
[2:46:33]
of this process. The mayor and I have
spent many many hours uh in the drafting
[2:46:40]
of the requests for proposals, sitting
through the interviews, discussing the
[2:46:45]
proposals in depth to understand the
opportunities uh for us. Um the studies
[2:46:52]
that need to be done now in order to
assess our water resiliency.
[2:46:58]
um and the one water concept. Um there
has been a lot of back and forth
[2:47:03]
internally as well as with the
consultant. Um uh we're trying to put
[2:47:08]
ourselves in the best position possible
regarding the scope of work and the
[2:47:13]
cost.
Um
[2:47:17]
I have not I've I've practiced law and
represented wa public wastewater
[2:47:23]
agencies uh for many decades. And you
have we received proposals from very
[2:47:32]
high quality firms. Jacobs is one of
them. In fact, I haven't had the
[2:47:35]
privilege of working with Jacobs in the
past. Um but I will tell you that they
[2:47:41]
are a very high quality firm
reputationally and the proposals that we
[2:47:46]
received and the interviews that we
conducted uh showed a lot of forethought
[2:47:50]
in terms of of what consultants wanted
to provide to us. The reason that this
[2:47:56]
is the right approach and Martito
whether you characterize as owner's
[2:48:01]
advisor or owner's representative
owner's representative at least
[2:48:04]
traditionally has been more on the
construction project management side
[2:48:09]
when there's already been for example a
more traditional design bid build
[2:48:13]
process here by contrast as an owner's
advisor that we're bringing them in
[2:48:20]
right upfront
because ultimately we may end up doing
[2:48:24]
this project based on the decisions we
make as a board. We may end up doing
[2:48:29]
this project incrementally both from an
efficiency as well as a cost standpoint.
[2:48:34]
And we've we've got all kinds of work
ahead of us, the five of us, to make
[2:48:39]
some really difficult decisions about
what we do. Um, but some of that may be
[2:48:45]
from a procurement standpoint. We may be
going to very different procurement
[2:48:49]
methods. We may be going to a
progressive design build. We may be
[2:48:53]
doing in other words, we're doing
something here that is very different
[2:48:58]
than what entities did 20 years ago or
even 10 years ago. What we're doing here
[2:49:04]
with an owner's advisor is absolutely
the right way to go in these current
[2:49:14]
times, current circumstances with with
with now having the ability as a public
[2:49:19]
entity to do uh have different options
on the procurement side other than all
[2:49:24]
right, we're going to go out and and
hire a design engineering firm for a
[2:49:27]
couple million bucks. They're going to
design it. Then we're going to put it
[2:49:30]
out to bid. then we're going to hire a
construction project manager, etc. Those
[2:49:34]
all build up too, but we are able to at
this point bring in a firm that owes its
[2:49:41]
duty to us
and us alone.
[2:49:46]
It owes Jacobs will owe a duty to the
city, not to anybody else. And so that's
[2:49:53]
key.
There's a lot of money involved in phase
[2:49:57]
1A. Um, and um, uh, I it it's it's a lot
of money, but at the same time, it
[2:50:09]
stands us in goodstead as we're looking
at the options ahead of us. I think Dave
[2:50:14]
mentioned a workshop. I think there are
going to be multiple workshops and
[2:50:18]
multiple hours spent at this. Um,
uh, I think the the this is the right
[2:50:27]
way to do it. I'm very mindful that this
is a lot of money. The way I think of
[2:50:32]
this is it's a long, you know, 3.9
million on a phase 1A of a project that
[2:50:37]
I suspect is going to cost somewhere
well north of $200 million
[2:50:42]
to receive the kind of upfront services
that we're going to get
[2:50:47]
uh now is going to be worth it. And
people can make a different value
[2:50:51]
judgment on that, but I think the
approach that staff is recommending that
[2:50:56]
we take and the approach that we're
doing is the right way to do this. So,
[2:51:01]
it's a lot of money, but I think it's
money. I don't like spending
[2:51:08]
I don't like spending any money, but
anyway, I I don't like spending a lot of
[2:51:11]
money, but this is money that's well
spent, particularly when you consider
[2:51:14]
how important uh this project is. The
last speaker talked about the importance
[2:51:19]
of of uh the importance of a water
reclamation plan. We have to do this
[2:51:24]
right. We have to do it right from an
environmental standpoint. We have to
[2:51:27]
make sure that we comply with our
regulatory mandates and provide the best
[2:51:31]
services possible for folks. So, I'm in
support of the recommendation and happy
[2:51:35]
to make a motion when the appropriate
time comes. Thank you,
[2:51:39]
» Council Member Santangelo.
>> Thank you. I won't be too long. Um, I
[2:51:44]
really appreciate your comments and your
work on the committee. Um,
[2:51:51]
this is a big, expensive, important
project and so far I'm pleased with how
[2:51:56]
we're moving. I think that the owner's
advisor model is the right one. I think
[2:52:00]
it helps us reduce risk and it will help
analyze all elements of the project. Um,
[2:52:06]
like I said, I really appreciate the
work of staff and of the ad hoc
[2:52:10]
committee. I know it takes a lot of work
to
[2:52:15]
um have evaluated all of these um
different
[2:52:21]
um bidters.
Um
[2:52:26]
um and I agree with you, Tony. I think
there's a lot more work to come, but um
[2:52:30]
I think this this board is up for the
task. Um and I think that we've got um
[2:52:36]
strong staff behind us to lead us in in
the way. And I think that this is a good
[2:52:40]
I trust in the committee's choice to
choose Jacobs.
[2:52:45]
» Vice Mayor
>> uh ditto to uh what has been said thus
[2:52:51]
far. Uh thank you so much to the
committee to both the mayor and to
[2:52:56]
council member Trembley. I know there's
a lot of work that went on not only at
[2:53:01]
the committee but behind the scenes. I
think David you probably did some work
[2:53:05]
during the holidays. I remember that was
like your fun holiday reading. So to to
[2:53:10]
both of you and staff truly appreciate
all of that work. Uh there is a saying
[2:53:16]
in Spanish which is persona prepar
like a prepared person counts for two
[2:53:22]
and so I do think it is especially
important to get this right to have
[2:53:27]
planning in advance as that is critical.
Um,
[2:53:33]
we have said over and over how this is
going to probably be the most expensive
[2:53:38]
capital improvement project. And I will
add that it's probably going to be one
[2:53:43]
of the most important uh projects
because it is so critical that we are
[2:53:47]
all able to flush our toilets and and
have access to uh this water as well.
[2:53:54]
And so with that, um I know the mayor
and I, we've also done a lot of work in
[2:54:01]
going to Sacramento and going to
Washington DC and making sure that our
[2:54:06]
uh legislators are aware as to where we
are in this process and trying to get uh
[2:54:12]
funding um through that process as well.
And so there's a lot of moving parts, a
[2:54:17]
lot of work, but I think going through
uh an owner's advisor is the right
[2:54:23]
pathway. And I think uh we will get
there and I'm glad that we're taking
[2:54:29]
action now. I know it is expensive, but
at the same time it is important to
[2:54:33]
invest in our community in this way.
>> Thank you, Mr. Kild.
[2:54:39]
Yeah, I want to ditto uh what's been
said and I especially want to thank my
[2:54:45]
colleagues up here for all the hard
work, all of us, but particularly
[2:54:52]
Mayor Tennenness and and Council Member
Trembley. Um, I've been up here a while
[2:54:58]
like I said and uh I was here when we
were somewhat less successful with one
[2:55:04]
of our upgrades here
and as was said very eloquently that uh
[2:55:10]
this is a new time and a new era and the
owner's advisor is is the way to go
[2:55:16]
about this. Uh, it's also said that we
do not know exactly how much this is
[2:55:21]
going to cost, but we do know that it's
probably going to be in the hundreds of
[2:55:26]
millions of dollars. Um, I'm hoping
it'll be in the lesser hundreds of
[2:55:31]
millions of dollars, but until we go out
to bid, we don't know. So, we're talking
[2:55:36]
about $3.9 million here to try to get as
accurate information in a very, very
[2:55:44]
complex project.
When you do a project of this magnitude,
[2:55:50]
you're going to have some highs and lows
here. And you want to make sure as best
[2:55:54]
you can that what you approve works. I'm
one of these kind of different people. I
[2:56:01]
like to go up to landfills and I like to
go to sand plants and I'm really
[2:56:05]
enamored on on how they work. And I
think it's important for all of us to
[2:56:09]
remember too that this has been
operational since about 1957,
[2:56:15]
a long time ago. And if we can get
anywhere close to that on this new
[2:56:19]
upgrade, this um build um you know
situation, the owner's advisory, I think
[2:56:27]
will be money well spent. I look as it
as it is kind of too wordy here, a
[2:56:32]
three-legged stool here. You've got
Jacobs, you've got Feldman for the
[2:56:36]
financing, and you've got Rafelis to be
able to uh help, you know, our rateayers
[2:56:42]
on all that. So the three-legged stool
is really really important in this. So
[2:56:47]
um I can support this. This is the first
leg of a race that's going to be many
[2:56:53]
many it's going to be a long race here.
But uh we want to do it right and I
[2:56:58]
think this is a real step in the
direction. So I will support this.
[2:57:03]
Thank you. Uh I just want to commend
staff. Um, Council Member Trembley and I
[2:57:09]
were treated at Christmas time with
Christmas wrapped gifts and I thought,
[2:57:14]
"Oh, great. Staff's getting us
presents." And then when I opened it up
[2:57:18]
and saw five proposals about how high,
Mr. Trembley, yeah, five proposals and
[2:57:24]
one of the city manager staffers said,
"You know, you have maybe 10 days to
[2:57:29]
read this." And then he called back
later and said, "Hey, can we do it two
[2:57:32]
days early?" So my Christmas was spent
reading all these proposals. Very
[2:57:37]
informative. Uh staff did tremendous
work in putting together the RFP. Um we
[2:57:44]
met the ad hoc committee with the gov
team and winnowed it down from five
[2:57:49]
proposals to three and we did interviews
with those three proposers proposers and
[2:57:56]
uh I feel very confident that the gov
team and Mr. Trembley and I made the
[2:58:01]
correct decision in selecting Jacobs.
Um, as
[2:58:07]
Mr. Mr. Kild said, we do have a
three-legged stool with our rate study,
[2:58:14]
with Jacobs, and with our fieldman to
help us with the financing on this. As
[2:58:19]
Vice Mayor Bravo, Martinez Bravo said,
we've planted the seed in Sacramento.
[2:58:25]
We've planted the seed with our federal
legislators in Washington DC and also
[2:58:30]
with a couple of federal agencies in
Washington DC on the importance of this,
[2:58:35]
not just from the standpoint of being
able to have an effective and efficient
[2:58:40]
water reclamation plant, but focusing on
the environment and our potential reuse
[2:58:46]
of this water to give us a longer term,
more sustainable water source for the
[2:58:51]
residents of Camaro. Um, the thing to
keep in mind, this is phase 1A and it's
[2:58:58]
going to be 20 months. Uh, Mr. Clatzel
said we'll have a workshop. I'm sure we
[2:59:02]
will have multiple and typically when we
do workshops, they are publicly noticed
[2:59:07]
and the public will be invited to these
and you'll be able to see what we see
[2:59:13]
when we see it. Um, and as more and more
information comes out, then I'm sure we
[2:59:18]
will share that information on the
public portals for the city. We really
[2:59:22]
won't know the cost until Jacobs comes
back at the end of this initial phase 1A
[2:59:29]
on what they're recommended and what
this board is comfortable with. I see
[2:59:33]
this as a long-term phased approach. I
don't think we're I personally don't
[2:59:38]
think we're going to take one big bite
out of this and be done. Um I see it as
[2:59:42]
a phased approach. Um and that's what
I'm hoping to see going forward. But
[2:59:47]
stay tuned and obviously I will support
this and Mr. Trembly, I believe you had
[2:59:52]
something to say.
>> No, I'll happy to make the uh recommend
[2:59:57]
a motion.
>> I'm happy to second it.
[2:59:59]
» We have a motion in a second. Madame
clerk, roll call, please.
[3:00:03]
» Council member Santangelo,
>> yes.
[3:00:05]
» Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo,
>> yes.
[3:00:07]
» Council member Kildy,
>> yes.
[3:00:09]
» Council member Trembley,
>> yes.
[3:00:11]
» Mayor Tennyson,
>> yes.
[3:00:13]
» That passes unanimously.
And now I will ask our esteemable city
[3:00:18]
attorney if there's any report on our
closed session.
[3:00:22]
» Uh no, there was one item and there was
no reportable action.
[3:00:26]
» Thank you very much. Have a good
evening. We are adjourned.