[0:59] evening.

[1:03] >> meeting.

[1:13] We.

[1:30] We.

[1:41] We.

[1:44] We.

[2:11] We.

[2:14] We.

[2:29] We.

[2:32] Each.

[2:53] Now call the.

[2:54] Meeting to order.

[2:55] Good evening and thank you all

[2:57] for joining us in person here

[2:59] and those watching online for

[3:01] our AUGUST 24th business

[3:01] meeting.

[3:04] Now we'll begin with

[3:05] introductions around the dais

[3:06] uh, starting with our city

[3:08] clerk to my right.

[3:09] Billy town's deputy.

[3:11] City clerk andrea leslie by

[3:12] city attorney.

[3:13] Who do.

[3:14] >> you mean mayor at large?

[3:15] Good evening.

[3:16] I'm victoria watlington.

[3:17] >> and I have.

[3:17] >> the pleasure of serving.

[3:18] You as a member at large.

[3:20] Good evening.

[3:21] Joy mayo representing district

[3:21] three.

[3:24] Marcus jones, city manager rob

[3:25] harrington mayor.

[3:26] Good evening everyone james

[3:28] mitchell mayor pro tem.

[3:29] Good evening kimberly.

[3:30] Owens representing.

[3:31] >> district.

[3:32] Six malcolm graham district

[3:32] two.

[3:34] And driggs district seven.

[3:36] Good evening luana mateo,

[3:36] councilmember.

[3:37] At large.

[3:39] Good evening jd my sweater adds

[3:40] proudly representing the east

[3:40] side district.

[3:42] five good evening I'm renee

[3:44] johnson and I'm honored to.

[3:45] Represent district four.

[3:47] Thank you.

[3:49] We begin our meeting with an

[3:51] invocation expression or

[3:52] inspiration followed by the

[3:53] pledge of allegiance.

[3:55] The invocation is intended to

[3:57] solemnized our proceedings.

[3:58] We celebrate the religious

[4:00] diversity of our community

[4:01] including those without a

[4:02] religious faith.

[4:04] Tonight council member doctor

[4:05] watlington will give our

[4:05] invocation.

[4:07] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[4:08] Uh.

[4:08] >> for those of.

[4:08] >> you.

[4:09] That would like to please.

[4:11] Join us and bow our heads.

[4:13] Heavenly father.

[4:14] We come before you.

[4:15] Tonight grateful for.

[4:16] >> this city.

[4:17] And for the trust placed.

[4:18] In us to serve it well.

[4:20] Lord give us wisdom beyond our

[4:22] own understanding as we

[4:22] deliberate.

[4:23] Tonight and as we hear from the

[4:24] community.

[4:25] Give us humility to.

[4:26] Listen to.

[4:28] >> each other and to the

[4:28] neighbors who.

[4:30] Aren't in this room but whose

[4:31] lives are shaped by what.

[4:33] We decide here lord, where

[4:34] there is disagreement among us,

[4:37] let it be rooted in respect.

[4:38] Where there is doubt, grant us

[4:41] clarity where there is division

[4:41] in our city.

[4:43] Use us as instruments of

[4:44] healing.

[4:45] Rather than discord.

[4:46] Lord, we ask that you guide

[4:48] every vote cast tonight.

[4:49] Toward justice.

[4:52] Toward mercy and toward the

[4:53] well-being of every person who

[4:54] calls charlotte home.

[4:57] We ask this in your name amen.

[4:58] Amen.

[5:00] >> please stand and join us in

[5:01] the pledge of allegiance.

[5:05] I pledge allegiance to.

[5:05] >> the flag.

[5:06] Of the.

[5:08] United states.

[5:08] >> of.

[5:09] America and to.

[5:09] >> the.

[5:11] Republic for which it stands

[5:13] one nation under GOD,

[5:15] indivisible, with liberty and

[5:16] justice for all.

[5:21] Before we move to voting on

[5:22] consent items, I want to take a

[5:24] quick moment because we have a

[5:25] representative from anderson

[5:27] county who I think has a

[5:29] special message and recognition

[5:30] for some of our city staff.

[5:32] I'll now recognize CHAIRMAN

[5:34] Cordle of anson county.

[5:37] Take your time.

[5:38] >> uh.

[5:45] Right here.

[5:46] >> be great.

[5:46] Like to thank.

[5:49] We.

[5:49] >> be.

[5:50] Right behind you.

[5:55] Uh, this was much better.

[5:56] >> so it's, uh, taller.

[5:58] So good evening council.

[5:59] Good evening mayor staff.

[6:00] Thank you.

[6:01] >> for the opportunity to

[6:01] address you tonight.

[6:04] Um, my name is jamie colter.

[6:05] I'm the CHAIRMAN Of the anson

[6:06] county board of commissioners.

[6:08] Um, I call it a neighboring

[6:09] county.

[6:10] we're just a few miles east of

[6:10] here.

[6:12] But, uh, again, I appreciate

[6:13] you letting me, uh, speak

[6:13] tonight.

[6:16] I just want to address a, um,

[6:17] situation that we had in nancy

[6:19] county back on JULY the 7th.

[6:22] Uh, ac county experienced a

[6:24] countywide water system loss.

[6:25] So we had a complete

[6:26] depressurization of our water

[6:28] system across the entire county

[6:28] .

[6:30] 95% of our citizens were

[6:31] without drinkable water at that

[6:31] time.

[6:34] Um, the next couple days after

[6:36] that line break, our focus was

[6:38] to restore water service for

[6:39] the basic principle of fire

[6:40] protection to all residents and

[6:41] businesses.

[6:43] Once that was achieved, our

[6:45] focus then became on restoring

[6:46] quality drinking water to all

[6:47] the citizens of our district or

[6:48] our county.

[6:50] Um during that time it became

[6:53] apparent that our utility staff

[6:54] was going to need some help and

[6:55] getting that restored.

[6:56] So we began to reach out to our

[6:58] neighboring municipalities,

[6:59] neighboring counties and the

[7:00] city of charlotte being one of

[7:00] those.

[7:03] Um, I'm here tonight to tell

[7:04] you thank you for the

[7:05] assistance that you provided to

[7:07] our county during that time.

[7:11] Um, I want to thank the elected

[7:11] officials.

[7:13] I want to thank the city staff

[7:13] .

[7:14] And most importantly, I want to

[7:16] thank the men and women who had

[7:17] boots on the ground who helped

[7:18] us restore that service to all

[7:19] of our citizens in our county.

[7:21] uh, we are all north

[7:22] carolinians and that's what

[7:23] makes this the greatest state

[7:24] in the country to live in north

[7:25] carolina.

[7:28] Um, when we need help we always

[7:29] lend a hand to our neighbors.

[7:30] And that's exactly what you did

[7:32] for our county and anson county

[7:32] .

[7:34] Uh, your willingness to lend a

[7:35] hand or in this case several

[7:37] hands, um, just shows the type

[7:38] of character that.

[7:38] >> you.

[7:40] As leaders, uh, exhibit and

[7:41] also your staff.

[7:43] Um, you sent 9 to 10 highly

[7:44] skilled and trained crew

[7:46] members each day for 2 or 3

[7:47] long days.

[7:50] And I want to specify long days

[7:53] ,um, to help us that worked

[7:54] diligently to help us restore

[7:55] the water service.

[7:58] I can't name them all but I do

[7:59] want to especially thank MR.

[8:01] Marion sanders and I know he's

[8:02] in the audience behind me here

[8:02] .

[8:03] Um.

[8:05] He is truly a remarkable person

[8:07] and a true leader in that

[8:07] department.

[8:09] And so he was on site with us

[8:10] in our eoc operations center

[8:12] and MR. Sanders was there every

[8:14] day and I just want to thank

[8:15] him personally.

[8:16] But also, you know, the staff

[8:18] and also I have not met this

[8:19] person yet.

[8:21] We I did not physically talk to

[8:22] you on the phone but I was on

[8:23] the phone conversations with

[8:23] her.

[8:26] Um, MISS Angela charles at your

[8:26] water lab.

[8:28] Um, and she might be here

[8:29] tonight.

[8:29] i would know.

[8:30] Yeah.

[8:32] >> nice to meet you.

[8:37] So?

[8:39] >> so MISS Charles, she did

[8:42] whatever was necessary to get

[8:44] our water samples, uh, fixed

[8:45] and tested.

[8:47] She offered.

[8:48] Extended hours on dropping off

[8:49] water samples.

[8:51] Accommodated us our county in

[8:53] whatever way she could do.

[8:55] Um, she provided technical

[8:57] support on obtaining the water

[8:57] samples.

[8:58] That way we could lift our boil

[8:59] water advisory and our citizens

[9:01] could go back to consuming the

[9:01] water.

[9:04] Most importantly, she give our

[9:05] citizens a trusted.

[9:06] Resource that they could

[9:07] believe in.

[9:09] The water sample was, uh,

[9:11] passing and was able to be

[9:11] consumed.

[9:13] So I want to say thank you to

[9:14] MISS Charles, MR. Sanders and

[9:16] all of the staff I can't like I

[9:16] said, I can't name all the

[9:17] staff members.

[9:18] They were way too many people

[9:19] coming in in that building that

[9:19] day.

[9:22] Um, so tonight I just want to

[9:23] present you with this plaque.

[9:25] Um, and grateful recognition of

[9:27] your invaluable assistance,

[9:29] extraordinary partnership and

[9:30] unwavering support provided to

[9:32] anson county during the JULY

[9:33] 2026 water emergency.

[9:34] Your dedication to public

[9:36] service and commitment to

[9:37] helping our community during a

[9:40] time of need exemplify the

[9:41] highest ideals of local

[9:42] government and emergency

[9:42] response.

[9:45] so it's a sincere appreciation

[9:47] and gratitude on behalf of

[9:48] anson county commissioners,

[9:50] anson county staff and most

[9:51] importantly the anc county

[9:51] citizens.

[9:52] We say thank you for your.

[9:54] Partnership.

[10:24] >>

[10:26] uh.

[10:30] >> we.

[10:40] >> are credit to the city.

[10:40] Thank you.

[10:41] Thank.

[10:41] You.

[10:42] Thank you.

[10:43] You good job.

[10:44] You know.

[10:47] Thank you.

[10:48] Thank you very.

[10:49] Jason.

[10:50] Thank you, MISS.

[10:51] Appreciate it.

[10:54] We just going.

[10:57] Through excruciating.

[11:02] Didn't jim didn't.

[11:11] All all right.

[11:13] Yeah.

[11:15] No.

[11:17] Oh, wait.

[11:18] Good evening.

[11:19] Yeah.

[11:20] See?

[11:21] All time.

[11:23] To ask.

[11:37] Thank you, CHAIRMAN Carl.

[11:39] And thanks to all the staff at

[11:39] charlotte.

[11:40] Water for.

[11:41] >> your hard work.

[11:42] Helping our neighbor community.

[11:42] Uh.

[11:45] I'm sure do it again.

[11:47] Just likes to say thank you.

[11:47] Thank you.

[11:48] >> so appreciate that.

[11:49] Thank you.

[11:50] >> thanks for coming through.

[11:51] >> I think you get there.

[11:52] thank you sir.

[11:52] Thank you thank you.

[11:53] Thank you.

[11:55] Thank you.

[11:55] CHAIRMAN.

[11:56] Always good to have good news.

[11:57] Oh, yeah.

[11:58] All right.

[11:59] We'll start that again.

[12:00] Thank you, CHAIRMAN Carl.

[12:02] And thank you to all the staff

[12:03] of charlotte water for your

[12:05] hard work on helping our

[12:06] neighboring community in their

[12:07] time of need.

[12:09] That's a wonderful way to start

[12:09] the meeting.

[12:11] So thanks again to everyone

[12:12] that is involved from charlotte

[12:13] water and to the CHAIRMAN.

[12:16] Um I'd like to thank again all

[12:18] of you for joining us on behalf

[12:19] of the entire city council.

[12:21] I ask that audience members be

[12:22] civil and courteous while in

[12:23] the chamber.

[12:25] We want to ensure that everyone

[12:26] has a positive experience while

[12:27] attending this meeting.

[12:29] We will start our meeting items

[12:32] with consideration of consent

[12:34] agenda items before we take the

[12:34] vote.

[12:36] Are there any for comment or

[12:37] for a separate vote?

[12:38] We will vote on the items not

[12:40] pulled first and then address

[12:41] any item pulled for.

[12:42] A separate vote later.

[12:43] Council member wish mayor.

[12:45] Item number 20 just for

[12:45] comment.

[12:48] The any others?

[12:51] Okay.

[12:53] MAY I have a motion to approve

[12:56] the consent agenda items 13

[12:59] through 32 with the exception

[13:00] of item 26.

[13:00] Is there.

[13:03] >> any further discussions or

[13:04] comments as to the bulk of the

[13:05] items?

[13:07] All in favor please raise your

[13:07] hand.

[13:08] Any opposed?

[13:09] All right.

[13:10] That passes.

[13:12] Um, since we have comments just

[13:14] on one let's go ahead and take

[13:14] that now.

[13:15] Council members.

[13:15] Mayor.

[13:17] So first I'll make a motion to

[13:19] approve item number 20 and then

[13:20] I'll make a comment.

[13:20] Second.

[13:23] Okay I'll speaking of charlotte

[13:23] water.

[13:24] Um I.

[13:25] >> just want to highlight

[13:25] charlotte.

[13:26] Water again.

[13:28] They are a champion.

[13:29] Of the circular.

[13:32] Economy and angela charles and

[13:35] her team does an excellent job

[13:36] of meeting our cap goals.

[13:39] We have seen that when they

[13:39] unveiled.

[13:40] A renew rule.

[13:43] And this is item number 20 is

[13:45] just another example of how.

[13:45] >> we.

[13:46] Recover our.

[13:49] Valuable resources like

[13:51] phosphorus and nitrogen from

[13:51] wastewater to.

[13:52] Support a circular.

[13:54] Sustainable economy.

[13:57] And this is going to result in

[13:58] almost $2 million.

[14:00] So let me say that again

[14:02] sustainable sustainability and

[14:03] economic development and cost

[14:04] saving goes hand in hand.

[14:06] So angela, thank you.

[14:07] >> for your leadership.

[14:10] In helping us meet our goals as

[14:12] well as our sustainability

[14:12] department.

[14:14] Thank you for your leadership.

[14:19] Thank you.

[14:20] >> council member ash mayor we

[14:22] have a motion and a second.

[14:23] Um.

[14:24] ,to.

[14:26] Approve item number 20.

[14:27] The motion.

[14:29] Uh, now we're ready for a vote.

[14:30] All in favor raise your right

[14:30] hand.

[14:31] Any opposed?

[14:32] All right.

[14:34] The passes and we're complete

[14:36] with the, uh, consent agenda.

[14:38] And now we move to open forum.

[14:39] Uh, public forum.

[14:41] I'd like to thank you all for

[14:43] joining us and behalf of the

[14:43] entire city council.

[14:45] I ask that all speakers and

[14:47] audience members be civil and

[14:48] courteous in their use of

[14:48] language.

[14:50] Speakers are encouraged to

[14:52] address council and should

[14:53] refrain from responding to

[14:54] audience members.

[14:55] Likewise, audience members

[14:57] should be courteous of each

[14:59] speaker and not yell out or

[14:59] interrupt speakers.

[15:01] We want to ensure that everyone

[15:03] has the chance to be heard

[15:03] tonight.

[15:05] Since there are more than ten

[15:06] speakers, each speaker will

[15:08] have two minutes to address

[15:08] council.

[15:10] Thank you.

[15:11] And now I'd like to call the

[15:13] first speaker and that will

[15:14] require me to get my list.

[15:16] To the first speaker.

[15:18] Um I apologies if I

[15:20] mispronounced name but he is on

[15:20] holiday.

[15:26] MR. Day.

[15:27] Here.

[15:29] >> all right.

[15:31] Second speaker is mike homan.

[15:36] Right?

[15:38] >> next speaker is jim berry.

[15:40] Jim.

[15:45] >> I'm going to stop striking

[15:45] out here.

[15:48] The next speaker is manolo

[15:48] betancourt.

[15:49] That's a manila.

[15:57] You know we have three marinas

[15:57] now without them.

[15:58] Uh.

[16:02] Unfortunately there's a waiting

[16:02] list but we look.

[16:03] >> forward to hearing from.

[16:06] Uh, good evening, MR. Mayor.

[16:07] Doing it.

[16:08] And they are.

[16:09] Friends of, uh, our city

[16:10] council.

[16:13] I had a very nice speech 24

[16:13] hours ago.

[16:15] They wrote for all of you.

[16:19] But everything changed 24, 24

[16:21] hours ago when greg marino.

[16:23] Show up.

[16:25] Uh, my parking lot at the

[16:25] bakery.

[16:31] Uh, and he's the person who

[16:32] brought sonny's darkness and

[16:34] hate to our city this past

[16:34] NOVEMBER.

[16:37] And and the baker.

[16:40] I should be back selling cakes

[16:41] and bread.

[16:42] I shouldn't be condemned.

[16:45] And this person to show up in

[16:45] our city.

[16:50] I'm here to ask you to be a

[16:53] third people as ordinary people

[16:55] are the people who create a

[16:57] positive upset, a good change

[16:58] in our society.

[17:02] And ordinary people are the

[17:03] ones who live our daily lives.

[17:06] Our city is full of

[17:07] extraordinary people.

[17:10] I saw the this past NOVEMBER

[17:11] when everybody show up in my

[17:13] bakery when everybody show up

[17:14] in central avenue on a broad

[17:18] low to us but ice is still in

[17:20] charlotte every single day they

[17:22] are taking people away from our

[17:25] street, our business going

[17:25] down.

[17:27] Our children are going back to

[17:28] school tomorrow.

[17:32] They are they are in trauma.

[17:33] They are shut.

[17:36] They are worried and nobody is

[17:37] raising their voice.

[17:40] I've been baking for 29 years

[17:42] and this is worse than covid.

[17:44] This is worse than 2000 a

[17:44] recession.

[17:47] We all can combine and create

[17:50] solutions if we feel proud to

[17:52] bring back ceos, another

[17:53] company from another estate and

[17:57] we feel so proud and all 500

[17:59] million fortune company to

[18:00] charlotte which will feel proud

[18:01] for them.

[18:03] We take care of our two small

[18:04] businesses now where minorities

[18:04] .

[18:07] So I'm here to invite you to

[18:08] create solutions.

[18:10] Thank you so much.

[18:11] Thank you.

[18:24] >> next speaker our next

[18:24] speaker.

[18:32] Our next speaker is.

[18:33] Doctor.

[18:36] >> yes.

[18:37] >> I'm going to mispronounce

[18:40] your name but pietro zick is he

[18:40] here?

[18:43] With it's great.

[18:45] Next speaker is daniel araya.

[18:55] Here here.

[18:55] Yeah okay.

[18:55] Mhm.

[18:56] Yes.

[18:58] >> uh hello council my name is.

[18:59] Daniel warrior I live in

[19:00] district two.

[19:01] During a recent.

[19:03] conversation that this council

[19:03] .

[19:04] >> was having about the.

[19:05] Model cities initiative there.

[19:06] Are concerns.

[19:06] >> brought.

[19:06] Up about.

[19:08] >> flock cameras and similar

[19:08] technologies and.

[19:10] Potential expansion of use of

[19:11] that technology.

[19:12] And during that conversation.

[19:13] Another council member

[19:14] commented about that and said

[19:15] the following.

[19:16] The last.

[19:17] Portion of what I'll say is

[19:19] connected to this technology

[19:19] piece that.

[19:21] We've talked about because just

[19:21] a short while.

[19:22] Ago we approved red.

[19:23] Light cameras that are going to

[19:25] track vehicles and other things

[19:26] that come within its purview.

[19:29] And we have 621 cameras on

[19:29] intersections all throughout

[19:30] the city of charlotte.

[19:32] The reason this was concerning

[19:33] to me is because it made me

[19:34] realize that some members of

[19:37] this council MAY be

[19:39] catastrophically misinformed

[19:42] about the issue of surveillance

[19:42] technology.

[19:44] This is hugely concerning to

[19:45] me.

[19:48] The aclu described what was

[19:49] going on with flock this way

[19:50] recently the.

[19:52] Cloud automatic license plate

[19:54] reader company flock is

[19:58] building a dangerous nationwide

[20:00] mass surveillance

[20:00] infrastructure.

[20:02] They go on to say if your

[20:03] community adopts this

[20:05] technology you need to know

[20:06] it's doing more than just

[20:07] recording what car is driving

[20:09] where and at what time.

[20:11] I also would like to follow up

[20:13] and say that axon is another

[20:15] company that is doing a similar

[20:15] thing.

[20:17] Their technologies are

[20:19] developing and growing at

[20:20] breakneck pace.

[20:22] If this council waits another

[20:23] year to confront this issue.

[20:25] It will be too late.

[20:28] I call upon the council to do

[20:30] three things ask cmpd about

[20:31] their current use and planned

[20:33] use of technologies from flock

[20:35] ,axon and other surveillance

[20:35] companies.

[20:37] Gather information about this

[20:39] topic to ensure you are

[20:39] educated.

[20:40] And three.

[20:40] >> have an.

[20:42] Open discussion and make

[20:43] deliberate decisions about

[20:45] where charlotte is going to

[20:46] draw the line to protect our

[20:47] rights.

[20:50] This is a critical issue and I

[20:52] urge the council to please

[20:53] address this issue as soon as

[20:54] you can.

[20:56] Thank you very much for your

[20:57] service to the city and I look

[20:59] forward to action on this.

[20:59] >> thank you.

[20:59] MR..

[21:02] Wright.

[21:04] >> our next speaker.

[21:06] The next speaker is martha

[21:06] carney.

[21:10] Okay.

[21:13] >> next speaker is ashanti

[21:13] williams.

[21:30] Good evening mayor herrington.

[21:30] >> and city.

[21:31] Council members.

[21:32] My name is ashanti.

[21:34] Williams and I am an.

[21:35] Unaccompanied minor escort at

[21:36] the charlotte.

[21:37] douglass international.

[21:38] Airport servicing.

[21:41] American airlines passengers.

[21:42] While I'm.

[21:43] >> trusted to.

[21:45] Help keep the airport's most

[21:45] vulnerable passengers safe.

[21:47] I was recently put.

[21:48] Into a.

[21:49] >> situation where I was given

[21:50] the training.

[21:51] I wasn't given the training I

[21:52] needed.

[21:53] To do the job safely.

[21:55] I stepped in as a wheelchair

[21:57] attendant during a staffing

[21:57] shortage.

[21:58] And was expected to push two.

[22:00] Passengers at the same time.

[22:02] I had no help.

[22:03] No guidance.

[22:04] Or any idea how I was.

[22:05] >> going to push them both

[22:05] through.

[22:06] >> a.

[22:06] Crowded airport.

[22:08] I made one.

[22:08] Mistake that was a.

[22:10] Security violation.

[22:11] Because of that.

[22:13] Mistake I paid a hefty price.

[22:13] I didn't.

[22:15] >> know I had to do security

[22:15] too.

[22:17] Nobody told us these things.

[22:19] My airport badge was suspended

[22:21] for 67 days and it's because I

[22:22] had poor training.

[22:25] When charlotte airport security

[22:25] reinstated.

[22:26] >> my badge.

[22:29] They said that my employer

[22:30] prospect gave me insufficient

[22:32] training for nearly 70 days.

[22:33] I went without pay.

[22:35] My bills powder.

[22:37] Food was limited and I had to

[22:38] fight for my life to survive.

[22:40] Stories like mine happen when

[22:40] workers.

[22:41] >> are overworked.

[22:43] Understaffed and being asked to

[22:45] fill gaps without proper

[22:46] training and the support that

[22:47] we actually need.

[22:49] And when you add bottom of the

[22:51] barrel benefits and low pay

[22:52] that doesn't allow us to

[22:53] support our families.

[22:55] You have a recipe for disaster

[22:55] .

[22:57] I love my job and helping

[22:58] people travel safely.

[23:01] But the airport workers at clt

[23:01] deserve better.

[23:04] Mayor herrington charlotte city

[23:06] council the new airport lease

[23:09] at clt can change things for

[23:10] the better.

[23:12] Give the public 45 days to

[23:13] review the lease and require

[23:16] airlines and their contractors

[23:17] to publicly report their

[23:19] training and staffing data so

[23:20] we can improve airport

[23:21] services.

[23:22] And stories like mine don't.

[23:23] Happen again.

[23:24] Thank you.

[23:25] Because we've.

[23:33] Our next speaker is averil fong

[23:34] .

[23:36] Iva will fong.

[23:40] Next is leslie brown.

[23:46] Next is alisha brown.

[23:51] Nobody came to chicago for the

[23:51] short.

[24:14] MR. Brown if you could since I

[24:14] was going so fast.

[24:15] Two names if you could state

[24:16] your names just so we have them

[24:17] clearly.

[24:19] I'm sorry.

[24:19] Oh, if you could just.

[24:20] >> state your names because I

[24:21] was calling it a bunch of

[24:21] names.

[24:22] I want to make sure everybody

[24:23] knows who's talking.

[24:23] Very well.

[24:25] >> um, good evening, mayor and

[24:25] .

[24:26] Members of the charlotte.

[24:27] City council.

[24:27] I am.

[24:28] Alicia brown.

[24:30] I'm the founder and executive.

[24:31] Director of for the struggle.

[24:32] And the managing partner.

[24:33] Of justice and action law

[24:34] center.

[24:36] Um, I'm speaking tonight

[24:37] because what we've heard from

[24:38] the community.

[24:39] With respect to this.

[24:41] Curfew is that criminalization

[24:42] is not the answer.

[24:43] Resources is in fact.

[24:44] >> the answer.

[24:46] And the fact that investing in

[24:48] resources to alleviate this

[24:49] problem was not the initial

[24:51] response is concerning at

[24:51] least.

[24:54] Let's be honest.

[24:56] You all have heard.

[24:57] And we've already acknowledged

[24:59] that this ordinance will have a

[25:00] disproportionate impact on

[25:01] black and brown children.

[25:03] That is something that we

[25:03] already know.

[25:05] We know what's happened in the

[25:06] past and we know will continue

[25:07] to happen even.

[25:08] With this.

[25:09] Particular ordinance.

[25:13] What's even more concerning is

[25:13] criminalizing parents for.

[25:16] Children engaging in children

[25:17] activities and.

[25:19] Children behavior.

[25:20] We work with parents.

[25:22] Every single day.

[25:23] Low income parents.

[25:25] Struggling every.

[25:26] Single day.

[25:29] And the idea of criminalizing a

[25:31] parent for a child's activity

[25:33] is not only concerning, but it

[25:34] shows me that whoever wrote

[25:35] this ordinance is completely

[25:35] out of touch.

[25:38] We do not support a blanket 9

[25:40] P.M. Curfew as proposed if an

[25:41] immediate measure is necessary

[25:41] .

[25:42] It should be.

[25:44] Temporary and the attorney in

[25:46] me needs to say it needs to be.

[25:46] Narrowly tailored.

[25:50] And evaluated alongside

[25:51] non-criminal alternatives.

[25:52] After speaking.

[25:53] With our youth.

[25:56] Um again, criminalization under

[25:58] these circumstances is

[25:59] unrealistic and it's not the

[26:00] answer.

[26:01] You've been offered

[26:01] alternatives.

[26:03] We've seen the city pay

[26:04] astronomical amounts for

[26:05] studies to come.

[26:06] Up with solutions.

[26:08] Well this is the time to employ

[26:10] your community experts in

[26:11] impacted communities to come.

[26:13] Up with a real solution.

[26:16] The scope is far too broad.

[26:18] This in practice again will

[26:19] criminalize children who are

[26:21] not engaging in any criminal

[26:21] activity.

[26:23] My problem even further is that

[26:25] again it will have a

[26:26] disproportionate impact on

[26:26] black.

[26:27] >> and brown children.

[26:29] Thank you, MISS Brown.

[26:35] Next speaker is abraham.

[26:37] Smith.

[26:38] >> I believe the person after

[26:39] me is one.

[26:39] >> of.

[26:40] Our students to.

[26:41] Maya jama.

[26:41] Let's see.

[26:43] That I.

[26:45] Oh so it says on a she's

[26:46] speaking in the place of zone

[26:46] out.

[26:48] I know okay.

[26:50] Good evening.

[26:50] Sorry.

[26:51] If you're if we're not signed

[26:52] up we can't allow it.

[26:53] Um.

[26:53] Apologize.

[26:54] Okay.

[26:55] >> thank you.

[26:57] All right.

[27:00] >> the next speaker is doctor

[27:03] reverend doctor janet garner

[27:03] mullins.

[27:21] Good evening, MR..

[27:23] Mayor and council members.

[27:25] I'm here tonight to

[27:25] respectfully.

[27:26] Ask you.

[27:27] >> to stand firm.

[27:29] And maintain.

[27:29] >> the six.

[27:31] Vote position opposing the

[27:35] current I-77 south toll lane

[27:35] proposal.

[27:38] This issue is about more than

[27:38] transportation.

[27:40] It's about public trust.

[27:42] Residents attended.

[27:44] Meetings, submitted comments,

[27:46] contact elected officials and.

[27:47] >> made their views known.

[27:49] After hearing.

[27:50] >> those concerns.

[27:52] This council voted to oppose

[27:52] the project.

[27:55] The question before you is

[27:56] simple what.

[27:57] Is change?

[28:00] The transportation needs have

[28:01] not changed.

[28:03] The concerns raised by

[28:05] residents have not changed and

[28:06] the burdens that.

[28:07] Toll rose.

[28:08] Place on working families has

[28:09] not changed.

[28:12] What appears to have changed is

[28:13] the pressure on local

[28:16] government to revisit decisions

[28:16] that already.

[28:17] Reach through.

[28:19] Public engagement and.

[28:20] Careful deliberation.

[28:21] Let me be clear.

[28:24] We all want transportation

[28:24] improvements.

[28:27] We want safer roads, reduce

[28:28] congestion and better.

[28:30] Mobility throughout our region

[28:30] .

[28:32] But working families should not

[28:33] be.

[28:34] Asked to pay twice.

[28:37] Once through their taxes and

[28:39] again through tolls used on

[28:40] roads they've already.

[28:41] Paid for in the beginning.

[28:44] And for some residents.

[28:44] >> and neighborhoods.

[28:46] This proposal is.

[28:48] >> not merely about traffic

[28:48] patterns.

[28:50] It's about the potential

[28:51] disruption that will.

[28:53] Stablish communities families

[28:54] losing their homes they've

[28:55] worked for.

[28:56] >> for many years.

[28:58] And sometimes generations to

[28:58] below.

[29:01] Charlotte residents deserve

[29:02] transportation solutions that.

[29:02] >> are affordable.

[29:04] Transparent.

[29:05] >> accountable to.

[29:06] >> the public.

[29:08] So tonight I urge you to hold

[29:09] your position.

[29:11] Continue advocating for

[29:12] transportation solutions that.

[29:13] Reflect the needs.

[29:14] Values and.

[29:15] Voices of our people.

[29:18] Because roads can't be rebuilt.

[29:19] Budgets can be revised.

[29:21] But once public trust is.

[29:23] Lost you.

[29:24] Can't get it back.

[29:25] thank you.

[29:26] Thank you doctor.

[29:31] >> our next speaker is riki

[29:31] singh.

[29:34] Riki singh.

[29:36] All right.

[29:38] Next speaker is nathan hoffman.

[29:58] Good evening.

[29:59] >> mayor and members of the

[30:00] city council.

[30:02] My name is nathan hoffman.

[30:04] I'm an uptown resident,

[30:05] PRESIDENT Of friends of fourth

[30:07] ward and a member of the center

[30:09] city safety task force.

[30:11] I'm here tonight in support of

[30:11] the.

[30:12] Youth protection.

[30:12] Ordinance.

[30:15] >> I understand some of the

[30:16] concerns surrounding the

[30:16] ordinance.

[30:18] A curfew.

[30:19] Alone will not solve the

[30:21] challenges facing our young

[30:21] people.

[30:23] We absolutely need greater

[30:25] investment in youth programing

[30:27] ,mentorship, safe places for

[30:28] teens.

[30:30] To gather mental health.

[30:32] Resources and opportunities for

[30:34] young people to thrive.

[30:36] But I don't believe we have to

[30:36] choose.

[30:37] Between these investments.

[30:39] And giving cmpd a.

[30:41] Reasonable tool to protect

[30:41] young.

[30:43] People and our community.

[30:45] This ordinance creates clear.

[30:47] Expectations and importantly.

[30:50] Allows officers to intervene

[30:50] before.

[30:52] >> a situation escalates.

[30:55] Not simply after a crime has.

[30:57] Occurred or someone has become

[30:57] a victim.

[31:00] Use properly this should.

[31:02] >> not be about criminalizing

[31:02] young people.

[31:04] It should be an.

[31:06] Opportunity to engage them,

[31:08] reconnect them with parents and

[31:08] guardians.

[31:10] Identifies those who MAY need

[31:12] additional help and connect

[31:12] families with.

[31:14] Resources.

[31:16] >> as an uptown resident.

[31:17] I've seen.

[31:18] >> how quickly large

[31:19] unsupervised.

[31:20] Gatherings can change the

[31:21] environment for residents.

[31:22] Businesses.

[31:24] >> visitors and the.

[31:25] Young people themselves.

[31:26] This is.

[31:28] >> why implementation matters.

[31:30] It must be fair.

[31:33] Consistent, compassionate and

[31:33] accountable.

[31:35] Pair this ordinance.

[31:36] >> with.

[31:37] The visible policing, youth.

[31:39] Engagement, community.

[31:40] Partnerships.

[31:41] >> safe youth.

[31:43] Spaces and meaningful

[31:43] resources.

[31:44] And I believe we create

[31:47] something much more powerful

[31:47] than a curfew.

[31:49] We create a proactive.

[31:52] Preventive strategy on behalf

[31:54] of the residents of uptown and

[31:54] all those across.

[31:55] >> the city.

[31:57] I respectfully ask council to

[31:59] support the youth protection

[31:59] ordinance.

[32:00] Thank you.

[32:01] Thank you, MR. Hoffman.

[32:04] We will move on to the waiting

[32:06] list since we've got several

[32:07] spots still open.

[32:09] And next first on the waiting

[32:09] list.

[32:11] Next speaker is michael

[32:11] mcbride.

[32:15] And even more space on the

[32:16] waiting list now.

[32:18] Uh, nancy cook.

[32:26] Bishop omari MAY.

[32:30] Jamal snow.

[32:35] Queen.

[32:41] >> yes.

[32:48] Um.

[32:49] >> I think he's still coming.

[32:50] Because he.

[32:56] Mayor council.

[32:58] We need to be honest about what

[32:59] this ordinance actually will

[32:59] do.

[33:01] If we already know black and

[33:02] brown.

[33:03] Youth face disproportionate

[33:04] harm during police encounters.

[33:06] Why would we pass a policy that

[33:08] guarantees even more encounters

[33:08] ?

[33:09] And why criminalize parents

[33:10] when the system is already

[33:11] stacked against them?

[33:11] First.

[33:13] >> the curfew increases police

[33:15] youth contact especially for

[33:16] black and brown teens.

[33:19] Charlotte's own data shows 1503

[33:21] 32 juvenile related incidents

[33:22] this year.

[33:25] Only 30% happened after 8 P.M..

[33:26] So why create a policy that

[33:28] affects 100% of teens for 30%

[33:29] of the problem?

[33:31] Cities like baltimore, chicago

[33:33] ,minneapolis, nashville,

[33:34] raleigh and my hometown of

[33:35] fayetteville have already

[33:37] learned this lesson curfews

[33:38] don't reduce youth crime but

[33:40] they do increase police

[33:41] interaction and communities of

[33:42] color.

[33:43] Charlotte cannot afford to

[33:44] repeat those mistakes.

[33:46] Second, criminalizing parents

[33:48] will hit families underneath

[33:48] already under strain.

[33:50] under the current ordinance,

[33:51] parents can already be charged

[33:52] with contributing to a

[33:54] delinquency of a minor a class

[33:55] one misdemeanor.

[33:56] We know exactly who will bear

[33:56] the brunt.

[33:58] Black and brown parents.

[34:00] Single parents families already

[34:01] struggling economically and

[34:03] misdemeanor means fines, courts

[34:05] fees MISS Work even jail time

[34:07] that destabilizes housing

[34:08] employment and family

[34:08] structure.

[34:10] Criminalizing parents doesn't

[34:11] solve root causes.

[34:13] It deepens generational harm.

[34:15] I urge the council to remove

[34:15] revise this section.

[34:16] Third.

[34:17] >> we need alternatives that

[34:18] actually work.

[34:19] If the goal is safety and

[34:20] protection then investment

[34:21] strategies with proven impact.

[34:24] For example hotspot analysts so

[34:25] we know where youth academies

[34:26] are happening and can target

[34:28] solutions instead of blanket

[34:30] curfews from community

[34:30] organizations already trusted

[34:31] by youth.

[34:35] Credible messengers violence

[34:36] interrupters neighborhood peace

[34:37] teams.

[34:39] These models work in baltimore

[34:39] in new york chicago.

[34:41] Create a youth hotline.

[34:44] Replace criminal

[34:45] criminalization with support

[34:46] and provide safety technology

[34:49] such as door doorbells motion

[34:50] alert sensors for families in

[34:52] hotspot areas who need help

[34:53] keeping their kids safe in

[34:53] light.T.T.

[34:54] Charlotte has the talent and

[34:56] the organizations in the

[34:57] leadership to build something

[34:59] real, sustainable and rooted in

[34:59] trust.

[35:00] >> thank you.

[35:00] MR. Snow.

[35:03] Next speaker.

[35:04] Is brandy williams.

[35:06] Thank you for the name.

[35:08] Wendy williams.

[35:10] Not here.

[35:11] Okay.

[35:14] >> next speaker is jamia

[35:14] pittman.

[35:16] Okay.

[35:19] >> good evening, mayor.

[35:21] And members of city council.

[35:22] >> my name is DR..

[35:23] My opinion I'm a little used

[35:25] student and a young person

[35:25] connected to the charlotte

[35:26] community.

[35:27] I do not believe an earlier

[35:29] curfew is the best solution.

[35:30] Young people gather together

[35:31] does not audibly mean we are

[35:32] causing trouble.

[35:33] Sometimes we are simply

[35:35] spending time together after

[35:36] school work or an event.

[35:38] A curfew could also affect

[35:40] jobs, transportation, family

[35:40] responsibilities, school

[35:41] activities and social lives.

[35:43] Young people who are not

[35:44] causing trouble should not be

[35:46] punished for the actions of

[35:46] someone else.

[35:48] Instead of focusing mainly on

[35:49] enforcement, I am asking the

[35:50] city to invest safe places for

[35:52] us to go reliable

[35:54] transportation mentors pass

[35:55] positive activities and a

[35:56] trusted adults who will help

[35:57] conflict when this begins.

[35:59] Having someone who will listen

[36:01] to who are listening in a calm

[36:02] situation can stop a problem

[36:03] before it becomes worse.

[36:05] Before making a decision,

[36:06] please listen directly to young

[36:07] people who will be.

[36:08] Affected if.

[36:09] >> the curfew is changed.

[36:10] Make it temporarily and

[36:11] publicly review where they

[36:12] actually MAY start with safer

[36:13] and whether it is being

[36:14] applied.

[36:14] >> for use.

[36:16] Young people are part of this

[36:17] community to our experience.

[36:20] Opinions should be included in

[36:21] decisions about our safety and

[36:21] freedom.

[36:22] Thank you for listening.

[36:24] >> to our police.

[36:33] Our next speaker is robert

[36:33] mccutcheon.

[36:40] I'm so many things to hear.

[36:43] You have to repeat the name

[36:43] made in.

[36:46] Music to me.

[36:47] >> robert mccutcheon.

[36:51] Good evening mayor.

[36:52] Herrington and.

[36:54] >> fellow city council members

[36:54] .

[36:55] >> my name is robert

[36:55] mccutcheon.

[36:55] I have the.

[36:56] Privilege of.

[36:57] Leading the charlotte.

[36:58] Regional business alliance.

[36:59] Over the past.

[37:00] Several months.

[37:01] >> you've heard.

[37:01] Many passionate.

[37:03] Voices about.

[37:04] I-77 south.

[37:06] But I want to speak tonight for

[37:08] some of the people you.

[37:08] >> haven't heard from.

[37:10] Because while they MAY not be

[37:12] in this room, many of them are

[37:14] sitting on I-77 south right now

[37:14] .

[37:16] They're coming home from work

[37:18] picking up their kids, heading

[37:19] to an evening shift.

[37:22] They wear suits and scrubs and

[37:23] steel toed boots.

[37:26] They teach our children, stock

[37:27] ourselves, build our homes.

[37:28] Drive our.

[37:29] Trucks and serve our meals.

[37:32] And they share two hopes spend

[37:34] less time in traffic and make

[37:36] sure every neighborhood in

[37:37] charlotte has the opportunity

[37:38] to succeed.

[37:41] These are not competing values

[37:41] .

[37:43] They're charlotte values.

[37:45] The debate over I-77 south has

[37:47] too often become about winners

[37:48] and losers.

[37:50] But what if charlotte can do

[37:51] something bigger?

[37:53] What if we can reduce

[37:54] congestion for hundreds of

[37:56] thousands of people and

[37:57] reconnect communities divided

[37:59] for generations?

[38:00] What if we can improve mobility

[38:02] and bring a meaningful

[38:03] investment and opportunity to

[38:04] neighborhoods that have waited

[38:06] for decades for it?

[38:08] This isn't choosing one

[38:09] charlotte over another.

[38:11] That's choosing all of

[38:11] charlotte.

[38:14] Council you represent the

[38:15] people in this room but you

[38:17] also represent the parent

[38:18] trying to teach daycare before

[38:19] it closes.

[38:21] The nurse driving home after a

[38:22] 12 hour shift and the worker

[38:25] losing an hour every evening to

[38:25] traffic.

[38:27] And you represent communities

[38:29] that deserve investment

[38:30] opportunity and reconnection.

[38:32] Their voices matter too.

[38:33] History rarely.

[38:35] Remembers whether leaders

[38:37] choose the safest path.

[38:38] History remembers whether

[38:40] leaders choose the future.

[38:41] let's choose a charlotte that

[38:43] moves a charlotte that connects

[38:46] a charlotte that invests a

[38:47] charlotte that leaves no

[38:48] neighborhood behind.

[38:50] Thank you very much.

[38:50] >> thank you.

[38:52] MR. Mccutchen.

[38:55] Quiet.

[38:56] Please try.

[38:57] >> to.

[38:59] Next speaker.

[39:00] >> is cigar dorothy.

[39:02] Soccer.

[39:03] >> soccer.

[39:04] >> soccer.

[39:05] Rafi.

[39:06] Thank you.

[39:07] >> thank you.

[39:30] Good evening.

[39:30] Mayor.

[39:32] Members of council.

[39:33] My name is sagar rossi.

[39:34] I'm here in.

[39:35] Support of regional growth and

[39:37] as a resident of district

[39:37] seven.

[39:39] I'm here in support of moving.

[39:39] I-77 forward.

[39:41] Three key.

[39:42] Things I want to reiterate.

[39:44] First, I drive this.

[39:45] Corridor every.

[39:46] Day to the.

[39:47] Airport to south.

[39:49] Charlotte into uptown.

[39:49] It is.

[39:51] Unreliable now and it's not

[39:52] getting better.

[39:53] I don't think anyone here what

[39:55] other would argue otherwise.

[39:55] And it's not just.

[39:56] My experience.

[39:57] This is.

[39:58] Honestly one of the most travel

[40:00] corridors we've seen in any

[40:02] major metro in the in the us.

[40:03] It's not meeting the needs

[40:05] today and it's not changing

[40:05] anytime soon.

[40:08] our region is growing and this

[40:09] problem only gets worse the

[40:09] longer we wait.

[40:11] Second.

[40:12] >> I know there's been a lot of

[40:13] discussion regarding tolls and

[40:14] whether they're useful,

[40:16] beneficial or helpful and in

[40:16] this instance.

[40:17] I think.

[40:18] >> there's something pretty

[40:19] unique about how we're funding

[40:19] this.

[40:20] >> or.

[40:20] How we're funding the

[40:21] structure.

[40:21] .

[40:22] Right now.

[40:23] The way tolls are set up, we

[40:25] actually get the benefit of

[40:26] over 40% of the people paying

[40:27] for it coming from out of

[40:27] state.

[40:29] That's not a tax necessarily on

[40:30] our community.

[40:31] That means everyone.

[40:32] Pays their fair share.

[40:34] If this.

[40:34] Worked, if.

[40:35] >> this were to change to some

[40:36] sort of tax funded alternative

[40:38] ,that means everyone else here

[40:38] in this room.

[40:39] >> is.

[40:40] Paying for it.

[40:41] That's a challenge.

[40:42] And third.

[40:43] I want to.

[40:45] >> be clear this vote today or

[40:46] this vote coming up doesn't

[40:48] really what it does do and what

[40:48] it doesn't do.

[40:50] It doesn't finalize anything.

[40:52] It only keeps our progress

[40:52] moving forward.

[40:54] We have been talking about

[40:56] trying to advance and improve

[40:57] 77 for over 20 years.

[41:00] Now is the time to try to make

[41:01] a stand and make something

[41:01] happen.

[41:04] The work that's been done over

[41:05] that time period has been.

[41:05] >> really.

[41:06] To drive the growth that we're

[41:07] living and seeing every single

[41:07] day.

[41:09] And it's not slowing down so

[41:10] let's not stall it.

[41:11] Let's advance it and keep

[41:11] working.

[41:12] Towards it.

[41:12] Thank you.

[41:14] >> thank you, MR. Rafi.

[41:19] Next speaker is jake freeman.

[41:21] Jake freeman.

[41:31] Good evening, MR. Mayor and.

[41:31] Council members.

[41:33] My name is jake freeman.

[41:34] >> I was born and raised in

[41:35] charlotte and I'm a.

[41:36] Proud graduate.

[41:37] Of west charlotte high school.

[41:39] You'll see.

[41:40] I'm here to speak about the

[41:42] proposed 77 toll lane

[41:42] improvements that are currently

[41:43] on hold.

[41:44] I own a property that's being

[41:46] directly impacted by the

[41:47] proposed improvements being

[41:47] made.

[41:49] At 77 south.

[41:50] We all know that 77 is

[41:51] currently broken.

[41:53] It's getting worse every day

[41:54] and it must be improved.

[41:56] However, council's rescinding

[41:59] support for this project has

[42:00] effectively wiped out the

[42:01] marketability of every property

[42:03] that will be impacted by 77.

[42:05] Improvements because the

[42:05] project's now on hold.

[42:08] No one is willing to purchase

[42:09] property that could be subject

[42:11] to condemnation by ncdot in the

[42:11] future.

[42:14] Furthermore, I have a loan on

[42:15] my property and I'm sure many

[42:16] other property owners in the

[42:19] same situations MAY have loans

[42:21] on their property with a

[42:22] looming condemnation in front

[42:22] of us.

[42:24] Banks are unwilling to

[42:25] refinance properties.

[42:27] We are suffering under this

[42:29] cloud of condemnation because

[42:30] the project was announced then

[42:32] the project was approved and

[42:34] then the improvement plans and

[42:34] subsequent.

[42:36] Property condemnations were

[42:38] initiated with people like me

[42:39] and city council members own

[42:40] words you don't want to kill

[42:42] the project, you just want to

[42:43] change the proposed design.

[42:45] But the design is only 10 to

[42:46] 15% complete.

[42:49] The concerns raised about this

[42:51] project can be addressed as the

[42:53] design progresses through the

[42:54] same public process that

[42:56] produce caps and stitches and

[42:57] community benefits already on

[42:57] the table.

[43:01] By putting this project on

[43:01] hold.

[43:03] City council members are

[43:04] hurting the very communities

[43:05] and residents they hope to

[43:06] protect.

[43:07] There are many property owners

[43:10] and homeowners like me who are

[43:11] now living and working under

[43:13] this cloud of condemnation

[43:14] causing us more and more

[43:16] financial damage every day

[43:18] while we wait for the eventual

[43:18] conclusion.

[43:22] While you delay, we suffer the

[43:24] public with you if you vote to

[43:24] move forward.

[43:26] A JULY poll of charlottes

[43:28] registered voters found that

[43:29] 52% support.

[43:30] Moving ahead with the I-77

[43:31] south expansion.

[43:33] thank you, MR. Freeman.

[43:35] Going into.

[43:35] >> the.

[43:39] Next speaker is damian smith

[43:41] followed by robin and felt just

[43:43] to be prepared.

[43:46] We have socialist.

[43:52] Is a constituent.

[44:01] Good evening council.

[44:03] Many of you already know how I

[44:04] feel about this.

[44:05] You've heard from me plenty

[44:06] over the last year.

[44:09] Now the fact of the matter is

[44:10] is that many of us on the west

[44:12] side we share the concerns

[44:14] about wanting people to be able

[44:15] to get to their homes.

[44:17] We share concerns about

[44:17] congestion.

[44:20] What we've said the entire time

[44:22] is is that the solution that

[44:25] has been proposed does not work

[44:27] and that is supported by the

[44:31] data both economic engineering

[44:33] and it's been shown for the 80

[44:36] plus years that toll lanes and

[44:37] highway expansions don't work.

[44:40] And conservative publications

[44:43] like the economist say that

[44:45] they don't work and that they

[44:48] are a bad use of public dollars

[44:50] even if they are public private

[44:52] partnerships that you should

[44:54] invest in mass transit and

[44:56] alternative transit and

[44:59] providing people freedom and

[45:02] options of how they get to and

[45:04] from their jobs to see their

[45:06] friends, to see their family,

[45:08] to pick up their children from

[45:08] school.

[45:10] And maybe here's a brilliant

[45:11] thought.

[45:14] Allow your kids to be able to

[45:16] walk and bike home from school

[45:19] or take the bus because we

[45:22] provided safe infrastructure

[45:24] because that's how most

[45:26] children got to and from school

[45:27] until the last 30 years.

[45:32] So and those investments for

[45:33] biking infrastructure and

[45:36] things like that have a 10 to

[45:36] 25% tax.

[45:39] Return and by providing

[45:41] residents of rock hill and

[45:43] providing residents from

[45:45] mooresville and from gastonia

[45:47] and from the region other

[45:51] options than getting into a car

[45:52] is what we need.

[45:55] It's what's going to actually

[45:57] address the needs of the

[45:57] region.

[46:00] And as a west.

[46:01] Side resident.

[46:02] >> you MR. Smith?

[46:02] Yes thank you.

[46:03] I.

[46:04] Mean as a west.

[46:05] >> side.

[46:07] We do need investment.

[46:08] MR. Manville.

[46:11] Well.

[46:19] >> in his constituency.

[46:21] Good evening mayor.

[46:23] Uh, members of council, I'm rob

[46:24] denfeld.

[46:24] I'm the.

[46:25] Executive director of the real

[46:25] estate and.

[46:26] Building industry coalition

[46:27] also known as rick.

[46:28] Uh, I'm here.

[46:30] To ask you to reconsider your.

[46:31] Retention of.

[46:32] The.

[46:32] I-77.

[46:34] >> uh, project.

[46:37] Um, I was actually on I-77 on

[46:38] saturday night 6:00 going to

[46:39] visit our.

[46:40] >> our in-laws.

[46:42] And hit two backups on the way

[46:43] south and those the poor folks

[46:44] coming north.

[46:45] Were were.

[46:46] >> in a in a huge back up as

[46:48] you as you reach the south

[46:51] carolina um state line and I

[46:52] will tell you that's a saturday

[46:53] night there.

[46:54] Clearly I.

[46:55] >> think everybody knows

[46:55] something.

[46:56] Has to be done.

[46:58] My request to you is to is to.

[46:59] Reconsider your vote.

[47:00] Because if.

[47:02] >> we do keep this on track, it

[47:03] gives an opportunity for a lot

[47:03] .

[47:03] >> of.

[47:04] The concerns that have been

[47:05] raised during the course of

[47:06] this to be addressed.

[47:08] Uh, there's new money

[47:09] apparently that uh, could be

[47:10] used for benefits.

[47:12] There's also mistakes.

[47:12] >> that.

[47:13] Were made on the northern

[47:14] section that that can be.

[47:15] Reconsidered for the southern

[47:15] section.

[47:17] There is there's caps on tolls

[47:19] and other other benefits that

[47:20] can also be associated with

[47:20] that.

[47:23] So I ask you to to reconsider

[47:24] and and consider moving this

[47:25] forward because in the next

[47:27] month or so if that if a change

[47:28] is.

[47:28] Not made.

[47:30] Then this will eventually come

[47:33] off the state the state uh list

[47:35] of plans for projects and if

[47:37] that once that happens it could

[47:39] be a decade or more before we

[47:40] can we can go forward with this

[47:42] project however it looks.

[47:44] So I'm asking you to get folks

[47:45] back to the table so that we

[47:46] continue to have these.

[47:47] >> discussions.

[47:48] Uh, because if we don't it will

[47:49] be many, many years before this

[47:50] can be this.

[47:50] can be.

[47:52] >> put back on the table so

[47:53] it's obvious a problem.

[47:54] We've got different ideas on

[47:55] how to get to that solution.

[47:57] Get back to the table so you

[47:58] can get to a solution because

[48:00] right now uh that's that's

[48:01] going to be a long ways.

[48:01] >> off if we don't.

[48:03] So thank you for your time.

[48:04] Thank you MR. Pilch.

[48:09] Next speaker is joseph williams

[48:09] .

[48:10] Joseph williams.

[48:12] Is.

[48:13] >> here.

[48:17] And who will be followed by

[48:18] connie proctor.

[48:21] Take your time.

[48:24] Okay.

[48:27] >> I'm so excited.

[48:28] All right.

[48:29] I was.

[48:31] Not expected to get off.

[48:34] The waitlist, so let's.

[48:35] See what's um.

[48:35] After you.

[48:37] Says um.

[48:38] .

[48:39] >> I love your switch.

[48:40] >> really curious about.

[48:41] >> yeah.

[48:41] So I.

[48:43] >> it's not not known I live in

[48:44] the wilmore neighborhood.

[48:44] Um.

[48:45] >> wilmore is.

[48:46] Uh, neighborhood that would.

[48:47] Be drastically.

[48:50] Impacted by the I-77 south

[48:51] project.

[48:52] Um.

[48:53] >> I think some things to

[48:53] consider.

[48:54] >> is.

[48:55] There's 35 plus homes.

[48:55] Um.

[48:57] >> that's 35 neighbors.

[48:58] Who live in charlotte who.

[48:59] aren't sitting.

[48:59] >> on.

[49:00] I-70 seven every day.

[49:01] To get to uptown to get to

[49:02] work.

[49:03] Um.

[49:04] One more is an.

[49:06] Overburdened, uh, neighborhood

[49:06] .

[49:07] Uh, we've been living.

[49:08] Next to the pipe boundary and

[49:09] we've been living next to this.

[49:10] Wonderful thing.

[49:14] I 77 um, north carolina widened

[49:16] it in 1994.

[49:17] Didn't put a nice sound.

[49:19] >> wall in for us even though,

[49:20] uh, it was required.

[49:21] Law says that they.

[49:22] Should have.

[49:24] As a temporary project.

[49:25] We're going to come back to

[49:25] this thing soon.

[49:27] Um, here we are 30 years later.

[49:28] As you guys know, we are still

[49:30] talking about this project.

[49:31] So, um.

[49:33] Really, you know, I think that

[49:33] .

[49:35] Keeping this project rescinded

[49:35] .

[49:35] Uh, no.

[49:37] MR. Hall was going to disagree

[49:38] with me on this one.

[49:39] Um, well, this is a great

[49:40] opportunity to reconnect the

[49:42] corridor and I think we should.

[49:42] >> take advantage of that.

[49:43] And let's.

[49:44] >> pull this thing off the

[49:44] strip.

[49:46] Let's go back to the state with

[49:48] our priorities known.

[49:48] Understand?

[49:50] Uh, council member watlington I

[49:51] love your idea about

[49:52] independent study.

[49:53] Well it's really go back and

[49:55] relook at this project.

[49:56] What makes this successful for

[49:57] charlotte?

[49:58] How do we set up our corridor

[50:00] to be successful for the next

[50:01] 50 years?

[50:03] Not something that just solves

[50:04] a short term problem.

[50:06] Let's make this a long term fix

[50:07] and let's protect our inner

[50:10] city neighborhoods and not

[50:10] bulldoze them.

[50:11] It's not the 60s.

[50:12] It's in the 70s.

[50:15] We can we should do better.

[50:16] We need a better project.

[50:17] We need a better partner, uh,

[50:18] with the state.

[50:21] And I appreciate it.

[50:22] Thank you for the time.

[50:23] Thank you.

[50:25] >> thank you, MR. William.

[50:32] I believe our final speaker

[50:33] will be connie proctor.

[50:34] Uh.

[50:36] >> good evening, mayor and

[50:36] council.

[50:37] My name is connie proctor.

[50:39] I have spoken to you before and

[50:40] asked you to.

[50:41] Envision a better city.

[50:42] A city where people of all ages

[50:43] .

[50:43] >> and.

[50:45] Abilities have mobility

[50:45] choices.

[50:47] A city where children and older

[50:47] adults.

[50:49] Have the autonomous.

[50:50] Mobility they.

[50:51] Need and deserve.

[50:53] Expanding an urban highway is

[50:55] not a way to achieve that

[50:55] vision.

[50:57] Expansion will divert precious

[50:58] resources from achieving it.

[51:00] We like to talk about how we do

[51:02] not want to become atlanta.

[51:04] If we add just ten more acres

[51:05] of highway right of way within

[51:08] a mile of uptown, we will

[51:09] overtake atlanta.

[51:11] we have been chasing quicker.

[51:13] Commutes since the 1950s.

[51:14] We have thrown trillions of

[51:15] dollars at that problem.

[51:17] What do we have to show for it?

[51:19] The same average daily commute

[51:20] time.

[51:22] We live for literally haven't

[51:23] saved a second.

[51:26] I asked you to envision what

[51:27] the general assembly is trying

[51:28] to force us to build.

[51:30] The year is 2086.

[51:32] You were standing in frazier

[51:34] park below the I-77 flyover.

[51:36] The elevated toll lanes are

[51:38] crumbling and they will soon be

[51:40] handed back to by the private

[51:41] toll company to the public for

[51:42] maintenance.

[51:44] Doing nothing is literally not

[51:45] an option because pieces of the

[51:47] lanes are in danger of falling

[51:47] off.

[51:49] Now the choice must be made

[51:50] whether to dismantle or repair

[51:50] them.

[51:54] You are 10 in 2026 you are now

[51:54] 70.

[51:57] You wonder why anyone thought

[51:58] building them was a good idea.

[52:00] They never did reduce traffic.

[52:03] This is not the future I want

[52:04] for either of my children.

[52:06] I urge you to stand firm in

[52:07] your rejection of this plan

[52:09] because not even the full 300

[52:11] million in community benefits

[52:12] can make up for the damage

[52:13] already done to our community.

[52:15] I have said it before.

[52:17] The only way to solve traffic.

[52:18] Is by providing viable

[52:20] alternatives to driving.

[52:22] Let's work to make those viable

[52:24] alternatives possible so we can

[52:26] actually reduce traffic.

[52:26] >> thank you for.

[52:32] Thank you, MISS Proctor.

[52:36] That brings to an end our.

[52:37] public forum.

[52:38] I thank everyone who.

[52:41] Participated including those

[52:42] who had no idea that they would

[52:43] actually make it 12 bucks off.

[52:45] The waiting list.

[52:46] But thanks everyone for

[52:48] participating and thanks for

[52:49] the audience's attention.

[52:51] We're now going to open the

[52:52] public hearing on a resolution

[52:54] to close a portion of brown

[52:55] road.

[52:56] MADAM Clerk, do we have any

[52:57] speakers?

[53:00] Do we have a motion to close

[53:02] the public hearing and to adopt

[53:03] a resolution and closed a

[53:05] portion of brown road?

[53:06] Symbol.

[53:07] >> is there a second?

[53:09] Are there any questions or

[53:10] discussion?

[53:12] Council member mayfield.

[53:14] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[53:15] I have.

[53:17] Said it once before but since

[53:18] our manager is joining.

[53:19] >> us tonight.

[53:20] I am.

[53:21] >> sharing again.

[53:21] That I.

[53:23] Have a.

[53:24] Concern while.

[53:25] >> we.

[53:25] Have both.

[53:26] A public.

[53:28] Hearing opening.

[53:30] As well as an adoption.

[53:32] >> of a resolution to close.

[53:34] Whatever the public hearing.

[53:34] >> is.

[53:35] On on the same.

[53:36] Evening as.

[53:37] >> a, a and b action.

[53:39] If we're open in a public

[53:41] hearing this like a number of

[53:41] other.

[53:42] Items should.

[53:43] Be us.

[53:44] identifying a public.

[53:45] Hearing date.

[53:48] Not for us to open a public

[53:49] hearing and because no one's

[53:52] showed up tonight to have.

[53:56] Action be made to adopt the

[53:58] closing of a portion of brown

[53:58] road.

[53:59] So I.

[54:00] >> want to make sure.

[54:03] That I share the.

[54:03] Concerns that.

[54:04] >> I have.

[54:05] What it seems.

[54:07] Like we're trying to fast track

[54:07] .

[54:08] Certain conversations.

[54:09] Versus going through the.

[54:10] Process of setting.

[54:11] >> a.

[54:11] Public hearing.

[54:12] Date to like.

[54:14] Thank you council member

[54:14] mayfield.

[54:16] I want to defer to the manager

[54:18] and also to the city attorney

[54:19] to the extent there any

[54:21] responses about the process of

[54:22] this particular item?

[54:23] I don't want around it because

[54:24] we might not know.

[54:26] Thank you.

[54:26] >> mayor.

[54:27] Um, council member mayfield,

[54:28] thank you.

[54:28] >> for.

[54:29] The comments.

[54:31] Just as a reminder for the

[54:33] public this item was referred

[54:34] to by our committee and it was

[54:36] taken up today during a special

[54:37] call meeting under the

[54:39] leadership um, of that

[54:40] committee uh chair graham.

[54:42] And at this point the committee

[54:44] will continue to explore the

[54:45] concept and make

[54:46] recommendations back to

[54:46] council.

[54:47] The other thing that.

[54:48] >> I would note about um.

[54:50] The the specific statute that

[54:51] governs this.

[54:52] Uh.

[54:53] >> road closure.

[54:56] There is notice by publication

[54:57] for four consecutive.

[54:58] Weeks ahead.

[55:01] Of the item being placed on the

[55:01] agenda.

[55:03] Uh, and it's by publication and

[55:03] .

[55:04] In the local newspaper.

[55:06] And so just for transparency to

[55:08] the public, uh, those notices

[55:09] are made available so that

[55:11] people can be aware of the

[55:12] public hearings that are being

[55:13] scheduled for consecutive weeks

[55:13] in advance.

[55:16] Council member.

[55:17] MAY I can.

[55:17] >> she.

[55:18] Repeat that?

[55:19] I was just going to.

[55:21] Say yes.

[55:22] You said would.

[55:23] >> you.

[55:23] Say.

[55:23] About four weeks.

[55:25] The door is still open so we're

[55:26] not able to hear you as clear.

[55:28] Sure.

[55:29] >> this particular.

[55:31] Section this particular.

[55:33] Statute requires.

[55:34] Publication in the newspaper.

[55:35] For consecutive.

[55:37] Weeks ahead of it being placed

[55:38] on the agenda.

[55:40] And so that is another

[55:41] opportunity for the public to

[55:44] be made aware of the matter

[55:45] being on council's.

[55:46] Agenda ahead of time.

[55:46] So that.

[55:48] Council member mayor.

[55:50] Oh I was just going to

[55:52] acknowledge what the attorney

[55:54] said before she said that that.

[55:55] >> is something.

[55:55] That um.

[55:57] The bigger committee chatted

[56:00] about today in our meeting and

[56:01] will be talking more about in

[56:01] SEPTEMBER.

[56:03] So thank you for continuing to

[56:04] raise that concern so that we

[56:05] can address that.

[56:06] .

[56:07] Council member mayfield.

[56:10] Thank you, mayor for a follow

[56:12] up and I appreciate the fact

[56:12] that.

[56:13] Bgr are had.

[56:14] >> an additional meeting to

[56:15] have this discussion.

[56:19] I wanted to be very clear that

[56:20] what I am suggesting.

[56:21] Is that we have a.

[56:24] Hearing date separate from the

[56:24] decision.

[56:26] I don't even know how many

[56:28] people actually report actually

[56:29] has a subscription to a

[56:31] newspaper today.

[56:31] So to.

[56:34] Say that we.

[56:36] Have the information posted in

[56:37] the paper is the equivalent of

[56:39] someone getting a divorce today

[56:41] and putting it into the paper

[56:42] they have got to worry about

[56:43] that person challenging it.

[56:45] So we use social media for

[56:46] other things.

[56:48] I'm asking for a clear just

[56:50] like we have other items where.

[56:51] >> we are setting a.

[56:52] Hearing date to.

[56:53] Just be.

[56:56] Consistent, set a hearing date.

[56:57] And not just.

[57:01] Say well we have listed it in

[57:03] newspaper when newspaper is not

[57:06] the main form of communication

[57:08] for a lot of residents today.

[57:10] And we can see that by the.

[57:12] Fact that unfortunately we just

[57:13] had another one of our local.

[57:15] channels closed down.

[57:19] So I would just like for us to

[57:20] be clear that what I'm asking

[57:22] for is a separation of a

[57:25] hearing day and then later I

[57:27] actual decision on that so that

[57:29] those who are able to watch us

[57:31] online or attend the process

[57:32] also know that this information

[57:33] is happening in their

[57:34] neighborhoods.

[57:35] Council member graham.

[57:37] Uh thank you, MR. Mayor.

[57:40] Um, again um we had that

[57:40] conversation today.

[57:41] I chair the committee.

[57:43] Uh, we look at the wide variety

[57:46] of options not wanting to

[57:47] debate the committee meeting

[57:48] right now.

[57:50] Um, but your point has been

[57:52] taken and is under

[57:54] consideration in terms of how

[57:54] we move forward.

[57:57] Uh, or if we move forward.

[57:58] So it's still up for debate.

[57:59] Council member johnson.

[58:01] Thank you.

[58:03] >> MR. Mayor.

[58:05] So this item.

[58:06] Went to the committee to

[58:08] discuss potential.

[58:09] Improvement or.

[58:10] Change to the policy.

[58:11] >> is that correct?

[58:13] So just just to be clear, I

[58:15] think the item that went to the

[58:17] committee is an overall item,

[58:18] not the particular motion

[58:20] that's on the table for tonight

[58:20] .

[58:20] Right.

[58:22] There is a it sounds like

[58:23] there's a discussion to be had

[58:26] in committee about process but

[58:28] that's not in the motion that's

[58:28] for tonight.

[58:30] Just make that clarification.

[58:32] So council.

[58:32] >> member.

[58:33] mayfield you.

[58:34] >> brought this up at least.

[58:35] 2 or.

[58:36] >> 3 meetings.

[58:36] I would.

[58:38] >> think that we would hold.

[58:39] Off on.

[58:41] Moving forward with that

[58:42] current process if we're

[58:43] debating potential.

[58:44] Improvement.

[58:48] >> any other discussion?

[58:51] I, I again we are looking at

[58:53] the process question and

[58:53] committee.

[58:56] Um one council member brought

[58:57] it forward.

[58:59] The committee is discussing it

[59:01] to see if it's appropriate if

[59:03] any changes will will be made

[59:04] at all.

[59:06] The committee is still

[59:07] discussing it so it's still on

[59:07] the table.

[59:08] >> all right.

[59:09] Any council members who have

[59:10] not been hurt I just want to

[59:11] make sure that there are other

[59:13] council members that have been

[59:14] heard because I think we're

[59:16] sort of debating process

[59:17] instead of this.

[59:18] Particular motion.

[59:18] My question.

[59:20] But let me let me come to

[59:21] council member mirror and I'll

[59:22] come back if there are other

[59:23] council members who have not

[59:23] been heard.

[59:24] Don't to speak.

[59:24] Yes.

[59:25] >> thank you.

[59:25] Mayor.

[59:27] Mayor harrington so council

[59:29] member johnson, just so that I

[59:30] understand your question, why

[59:33] are we sticking with the

[59:35] existing process if the

[59:36] conversation is in the bigger

[59:36] committee?

[59:38] so from what I understood.

[59:41] From the attorney is that until

[59:42] the new process is adopted we

[59:44] have to continue with the

[59:44] existing process.

[59:45] Am I correct?

[59:46] That's correct.

[59:51] So I know that this is going to

[59:52] be coming in front of the

[59:54] bigger committee for a follow

[59:57] up next month and this month

[59:58] the bpr committee had two

[1:00:00] meetings to and this was number

[1:00:00] .

[1:00:02] Second item on our agenda

[1:00:04] tonight to today earlier today.

[1:00:07] They're being prioritized to

[1:00:07] your question.

[1:00:10] Any other council members who

[1:00:12] would like to be heard who have

[1:00:12] not been heard?

[1:00:14] Okay.

[1:00:16] There is a motion and a second

[1:00:19] we've had discussion all in

[1:00:20] favor of the.

[1:00:21] >> point of order.

[1:00:22] That was a follow.

[1:00:22] >> up.

[1:00:23] .

[1:00:23] >> point of order.

[1:00:24] Are we.

[1:00:26] >> not able to seek

[1:00:27] clarification or follow up.

[1:00:28] On our question?

[1:00:29] You can.

[1:00:31] >> seek clarification follow up

[1:00:32] on the question but we're still

[1:00:33] going to at some point call the

[1:00:34] question on this particular

[1:00:35] motion.

[1:00:37] So one more round of questions

[1:00:39] on your question about process

[1:00:41] and then we should move on with

[1:00:41] the believe with the motion.

[1:00:43] But if there's a question.

[1:00:44] Thank you.

[1:00:46] >> so the last couple last.

[1:00:47] >> month if.

[1:00:49] I'm correct we deferred.

[1:00:51] Didn't we deferred because we

[1:00:52] there was more than just one

[1:00:53] council member who.

[1:00:53] >> was.

[1:00:54] Concerned about it.

[1:00:56] So is this some process that we

[1:00:57] have to move forward on or was

[1:00:59] this a choice to put this on

[1:01:00] the agenda because if it's if

[1:01:03] it's in the committee and we're

[1:01:05] looking at improving a process

[1:01:05] or.

[1:01:05] Changing a.

[1:01:06] Process.

[1:01:06] .

[1:01:09] I would ask or hope that we

[1:01:10] kind of hold off.

[1:01:12] Until then because.

[1:01:14] >> all we're doing is just

[1:01:14] taking a deeper.

[1:01:16] Hole or doing things opposite

[1:01:18] of what the council is desiring

[1:01:19] to do.

[1:01:21] Is there a motion to defer this

[1:01:23] motion or any other ancillary

[1:01:23] motion to this motion?

[1:01:24] >> I mean I can.

[1:01:25] Make a motion to defer this.

[1:01:29] There motion.

[1:01:29] Yes.

[1:01:30] >> thank you.

[1:01:31] >> okay.

[1:01:31] >> so there's.

[1:01:32] >> a motion on.

[1:01:32] >> the.

[1:01:34] Floor I believe the youth

[1:01:35] commission to close the public

[1:01:36] hearing.

[1:01:39] But close the public hearing on

[1:01:40] this and then move to the

[1:01:40] discussion.

[1:01:40] Yes.

[1:01:42] >> is there a motion to close

[1:01:42] the public hearing?

[1:01:43] So you.

[1:01:44] >> have a motion.

[1:01:45] >> you have a second.

[1:01:47] Second we're going to come back

[1:01:47] to have.

[1:01:48] >> a question of clarification

[1:01:48] .

[1:01:50] the way this is presented it is

[1:01:54] presented as a and b as a close

[1:01:58] b is a is to close the public

[1:02:02] hearing b is to adopt the

[1:02:02] resolution.

[1:02:05] I do not understand how we are

[1:02:06] attempting to close the public

[1:02:08] hearing when you still have b

[1:02:10] on this item, which is what

[1:02:12] triggered the entire my

[1:02:14] original question because the

[1:02:16] close the public hearing is by

[1:02:20] default adopting a and b a to

[1:02:22] close the public hearing and b

[1:02:24] to adopt the resolution to

[1:02:26] close the actual portion of the

[1:02:26] street.

[1:02:27] So please clarify.

[1:02:29] >> so we could entertain a

[1:02:31] substitute motion simply to

[1:02:32] approve a to close the public

[1:02:34] hearing and move on from there

[1:02:35] and then have the discussion on

[1:02:35] the substantive motion.

[1:02:38] Is there a motion to close the

[1:02:38] public hearing?

[1:02:41] Close?

[1:02:43] >> I make a motion to close the

[1:02:45] public hearing just the second

[1:02:45] .

[1:02:46] A second.

[1:02:46] Is there.

[1:02:47] >> a second.

[1:02:48] Kimberly.

[1:02:49] >> any further discussion on

[1:02:50] closing the public hearing so

[1:02:52] we can go on to the discussion

[1:02:53] of b okay.

[1:02:54] All in favor?

[1:02:55] Any opposed?

[1:02:57] Okay.

[1:02:59] Now is there a separate motion

[1:03:02] to adopt to uh approve the

[1:03:02] motion itself.

[1:03:04] To defer.

[1:03:06] Is there is there a separate.

[1:03:09] We do not we do not have a

[1:03:09] motion yet.

[1:03:11] So is so there is a motion and

[1:03:12] a second to adopt the

[1:03:13] resolution deferral.

[1:03:16] >> to defer to debate adopt the

[1:03:17] resolution to close a portion

[1:03:19] moved to defer the adoption

[1:03:20] which is b okay.

[1:03:21] All in favor.

[1:03:22] Any discussion of that?

[1:03:26] Council member.

[1:03:27] >> elliott if I MAY.

[1:03:27] >> thank you mayor.

[1:03:28] Um, if I could ask.

[1:03:29] >> the.

[1:03:29] City attorney.

[1:03:30] >> the way.

[1:03:32] I had understood um, in our

[1:03:33] conversations earlier today.

[1:03:33] This was.

[1:03:34] Something that.

[1:03:36] >> was brought by a resident.

[1:03:36] Is that.

[1:03:37] >> correct how.

[1:03:38] >> this particular motion.

[1:03:39] >> came forward?

[1:03:39] >> can you describe.

[1:03:40] >> that to.

[1:03:40] Council, how we.

[1:03:42] >> got where we are and what.

[1:03:43] This particular motion is?

[1:03:43] Sure.

[1:03:44] >> so the property.

[1:03:47] Owner has requested.

[1:03:48] To close.

[1:03:49] >> a.

[1:03:50] Portion of the of the driveway

[1:03:50] .

[1:03:53] And or the we on a drive.

[1:03:53] We we.

[1:03:55] >> on a avenue excuse me.

[1:03:56] And notified.

[1:03:58] The adjacent property.

[1:03:59] Owners to see if.

[1:03:59] >> there.

[1:04:00] Was opposition.

[1:04:01] Apparently there was no

[1:04:01] opposition and.

[1:04:03] So this is the property owners.

[1:04:05] Request and it has not been

[1:04:05] challenged.

[1:04:07] So mayor, if I MAY.

[1:04:09] I will not be supporting.

[1:04:10] a motion to defer.

[1:04:11] >> because I find it

[1:04:11] inefficient to do.

[1:04:12] So in.

[1:04:13] >> circumstances such.

[1:04:14] >> as have.

[1:04:14] >> been.

[1:04:15] Described as I understand this

[1:04:15] motion.

[1:04:17] It is ripe for determination on

[1:04:18] this evening even.

[1:04:19] Though we.

[1:04:19] >> have.

[1:04:20] Had the public.

[1:04:21] Hearing in the.

[1:04:22] Same context.

[1:04:22] >> of the.

[1:04:23] Meeting, I think that this is

[1:04:23] a.

[1:04:25] Is ripe situation.

[1:04:26] Council member.

[1:04:26] As mayor.

[1:04:27] Yes.

[1:04:29] >> so MADAM.

[1:04:32] Attorney gave us legal guidance

[1:04:34] earlier today at the committee

[1:04:34] meeting.

[1:04:36] So what I'm concerned about is

[1:04:38] if we impose a.

[1:04:40] Different process and take it

[1:04:42] out when we have not adopted a

[1:04:44] new process, I'm concerned

[1:04:45] about the legal challenge.

[1:04:47] So MADAM Attorney, if you could

[1:04:49] speak to that and.

[1:04:53] Certainly has council member

[1:04:55] engineer at 168 to.

[1:04:56] >> 99 does provide.

[1:04:57] An appeal.

[1:05:00] Mechanism to superior court.

[1:05:01] For the decision.

[1:05:02] Any decision is made by.

[1:05:03] Council concerning.

[1:05:06] Concerning one of these public

[1:05:07] hearings and.

[1:05:08] Uh at this point without.

[1:05:09] Opposition there could be.

[1:05:11] >> it could be opposition to

[1:05:11] that.

[1:05:14] Be appeal to the court.

[1:05:16] that's all I have.

[1:05:16] Okay.

[1:05:18] >> is there any further council

[1:05:19] member graham on the motion to.

[1:05:21] Defer and I'll be I'll be

[1:05:23] voting against that as well.

[1:05:25] And I think councilor, if you

[1:05:27] would allow the committee to

[1:05:28] process the request that you

[1:05:29] made.

[1:05:31] And we don't know what the

[1:05:32] committee is going to recommend

[1:05:32] .

[1:05:34] We don't know what the council

[1:05:36] will eventually vote on what we

[1:05:38] have done to start a discussion

[1:05:39] and we have to keep the rules

[1:05:42] as they are today and they MAY

[1:05:43] or MAY not change tomorrow.

[1:05:45] So I think we need to.

[1:05:46] Plow forward.

[1:05:48] And allow the council and the

[1:05:49] committee the process to work

[1:05:50] with you.

[1:05:51] Access to do it is not ready.

[1:05:53] It's been prioritized.

[1:05:55] We'll be talking about it again

[1:05:56] in two weeks.

[1:05:56] I think.

[1:05:57] >> we need to move on.

[1:05:59] We're having a debate about

[1:06:00] having a debate.

[1:06:02] And we have a motion on the

[1:06:05] floor to defer the motion to uh

[1:06:06] uh, adopt the resolution and

[1:06:08] close a portion of pete brown

[1:06:08] road.

[1:06:10] That's item four in the agenda

[1:06:10] .

[1:06:13] All in favor of the motion to

[1:06:13] defer?

[1:06:15] Please raise your hand.

[1:06:17] All opposed?

[1:06:21] MR. Mayor, I move to approve.

[1:06:22] B second.

[1:06:23] Just just for the record, the.

[1:06:25] Motion to defer failed.

[1:06:28] Uh, the motion to approve adopt

[1:06:29] the resolution now.

[1:06:30] >> is there a second?

[1:06:30] second.

[1:06:31] >> okay.

[1:06:32] >> uh, it's.

[1:06:33] Further discussion.

[1:06:35] All right, all in favor raise

[1:06:35] your hand.

[1:06:40] All against.

[1:06:41] All right.

[1:06:44] >> the motion, uh, be to

[1:06:46] approve the, um, resolution

[1:06:48] regarding a closing of a

[1:06:49] portion of pete brown road has

[1:06:49] .

[1:06:50] Passed.

[1:06:53] >> okay, that brings us to

[1:06:54] public hearing and decision on

[1:06:56] resolution to close a portion

[1:06:57] of we honore avenue.

[1:06:59] We're now going to open the

[1:07:01] public hearing on a resolution

[1:07:03] to close a portion of we honor

[1:07:03] avenue.

[1:07:04] MADAM Clerk, do we have any

[1:07:05] speakers on this public

[1:07:06] hearing?

[1:07:08] Is there a motion to close the

[1:07:08] public hearing?

[1:07:09] >> I'm to do that separately

[1:07:10] this time.

[1:07:11] Is there a motion to close the

[1:07:11] public hearing?

[1:07:11] So move.

[1:07:12] >> there a second.

[1:07:14] Any discussion?

[1:07:15] All in favor raise your hand.

[1:07:19] Any opposed to closing the

[1:07:21] public hearing, please raise

[1:07:21] your hand.

[1:07:22] All right.

[1:07:23] That passes unanimously.

[1:07:24] No.

[1:07:26] No one's.

[1:07:26] Not unanimous.

[1:07:27] Maybe mayfield.

[1:07:28] >> was again.

[1:07:28] Was that just a or all of it?

[1:07:28] No.

[1:07:30] >> this was just to close the

[1:07:30] public hearing.

[1:07:31] Um.

[1:07:31] .

[1:07:32] So.

[1:07:33] Councilmember johnson, your

[1:07:33] vote is in favor.

[1:07:35] Yes we can.

[1:07:36] So unanimous to close the

[1:07:36] public hearing.

[1:07:37] Is there now?

[1:07:40] Is there now a motion to adopt

[1:07:41] the resolution to close a.

[1:07:42] Portion of we on.

[1:07:44] >> a road as described in

[1:07:44] paragraph five?

[1:07:46] Moved to adopt.

[1:07:47] >> is there a second?

[1:07:47] Okay.

[1:07:49] >> uh, any further discussion

[1:07:50] there?

[1:07:51] Okay.

[1:07:54] >> all in favor of adopting the

[1:07:54] resolution and closed a

[1:07:55] portion.

[1:07:56] >> of we on a road as.

[1:07:59] Described further in item five

[1:08:00] on the agenda.

[1:08:00] Please raise your hand.

[1:08:02] Any opposed?

[1:08:04] All right.

[1:08:06] The ayes have it and that has

[1:08:06] passed.

[1:08:09] And that brings us to the city

[1:08:10] manager's report.

[1:08:11] So policy.

[1:08:13] Thank you.

[1:08:13] >> uh.

[1:08:14] Mayor members of.

[1:08:15] Council as.

[1:08:16] We, um.

[1:08:18] Discussed previously.

[1:08:21] We have, uh, the police chief

[1:08:24] here today to utilize the time

[1:08:25] for the manager's report to

[1:08:27] give you an update on the youth

[1:08:27] protection ordinance.

[1:08:31] Um, with no action, just more

[1:08:31] information.

[1:08:32] Um, answering.

[1:08:33] Some of the questions.

[1:08:34] That you provided.

[1:08:37] And, mayor, before I turn it

[1:08:38] over to, um.

[1:08:40] Our police chief, um.

[1:08:42] There is something that the

[1:08:44] mayor pro tem would like to

[1:08:45] provide.

[1:08:46] For yours.

[1:08:47] Okay.

[1:08:48] >> uh.

[1:08:49] Thank you, city manager.

[1:08:50] Thank you, mayor and council.

[1:08:51] Uh.

[1:08:54] >> we have one of our deputy

[1:08:56] city managers who after so many

[1:08:58] years has finally decide she's

[1:08:59] going to start another career.

[1:09:01] Uh, this young lady has made.

[1:09:04] Me a better public servant over

[1:09:05] the years.

[1:09:06] And in.

[1:09:07] >> particularly, uh.

[1:09:09] >> council we had to stand up,

[1:09:09] attempt.

[1:09:12] To process uh, with COUNCILMAN

[1:09:14] Mayfield, councilmember driggs

[1:09:15] and this young lady worked.

[1:09:17] Bristly to make sure that we

[1:09:19] had a process in place that we

[1:09:20] can select that candidates.

[1:09:22] And so I would like to have us

[1:09:25] give a special recognition to

[1:09:26] deputy city manager liz bass

[1:09:27] and for your outstanding.

[1:09:31] Leadership dedication to make

[1:09:32] charlotte a better city.

[1:09:33] Liz.

[1:09:56] I.

[1:09:59] >> is some of the time you

[1:10:00] disappear.

[1:10:01] Johnson and probably.

[1:10:07] How are we.

[1:10:07] Going to MISS You?

[1:10:11] I'm going to MISS You come down

[1:10:12] the hall singing.

[1:10:29] Some jokes we.

[1:10:38] Might.

[1:10:41] Uh.

[1:10:43] Okay okay.

[1:10:50] Oh oh.

[1:10:52] She's.

[1:10:57] Asking me.

[1:11:02] i'm.

[1:11:06] Good evening, mayor.

[1:11:07] And members of.

[1:11:07] Council as.

[1:11:08] >> we.

[1:11:09] Continue this.

[1:11:10] >> conversation concerning the.

[1:11:11] Youth protection ordinance.

[1:11:12] I wanted.

[1:11:13] To be sure to.

[1:11:14] Address the.

[1:11:15] Questions you.

[1:11:15] >> raised.

[1:11:16] At our.

[1:11:16] Lives council.

[1:11:17] Meeting on AUGUST.

[1:11:18] >> 10th and also to.

[1:11:20] Highlight a few points and

[1:11:20] provide some.

[1:11:22] Updates concerning this

[1:11:22] ordinance.

[1:11:23] I have been listening

[1:11:24] tentatively.

[1:11:25] To the comments.

[1:11:27] Today and even those.

[1:11:27] >> that have.

[1:11:27] Been.

[1:11:28] Brought to me by.

[1:11:29] >> other community members and

[1:11:29] we want to be.

[1:11:30] Sensitive to.

[1:11:31] That because we.

[1:11:31] >> know.

[1:11:32] That there is concern.

[1:11:32] >> on.

[1:11:33] Both sides.

[1:11:34] And so in.

[1:11:35] >> our last meeting since our

[1:11:36] last.

[1:11:37] Meeting I should say I had a.

[1:11:39] Meeting with seven civic.

[1:11:40] And community leaders along

[1:11:41] with a number of residents who.

[1:11:43] >> have had general questions.

[1:11:43] >> as well.

[1:11:44] So I'd.

[1:11:45] >> like to share some of them

[1:11:45] with you.

[1:11:46] >> I'd like to start.

[1:11:46] >> off by.

[1:11:47] saying first and foremost we

[1:11:49] have gotten the question

[1:11:49] repeatedly.

[1:11:50] What are we.

[1:11:50] >> trying.

[1:11:51] To solve or.

[1:11:51] >> what.

[1:11:51] Are we.

[1:11:52] >> were trying to do with this

[1:11:52] ordinance?

[1:11:53] >> I will tell you very.

[1:11:54] Plainly that we are.

[1:11:55] Trying to reduce.

[1:11:56] The number of teen takeover

[1:11:59] events where there is crime,

[1:12:00] where there is property damage

[1:12:02] and where we have seen harm to

[1:12:02] the community.

[1:12:04] We want to make sure that we

[1:12:06] are also being cognizant of

[1:12:07] victimization of our young

[1:12:07] people.

[1:12:09] We want to minimize that as

[1:12:10] much as possible.

[1:12:12] Now we know that an ordinance

[1:12:15] is not the save all be all in

[1:12:16] doing that we know that there

[1:12:16] still is.

[1:12:17] >> going to.

[1:12:17] Be victimization.

[1:12:18] We know they're still going to

[1:12:20] be victimizing but we want to

[1:12:21] mitigate it as much as

[1:12:21] possible.

[1:12:24] And so this ordinance gives us

[1:12:25] or this modification to the

[1:12:26] ordinance gives us one more

[1:12:27] tool.

[1:12:29] For law enforcement to be able

[1:12:31] to create safe spaces for our

[1:12:33] youth and also prevent or

[1:12:35] reduce victimization.

[1:12:37] I want to reiterate what I've

[1:12:38] heard repeatedly and even

[1:12:40] tonight that this ordinance

[1:12:42] change or modification is not

[1:12:43] intended.

[1:12:44] To criminalize our youth.

[1:12:46] We do not want to create

[1:12:48] pipelines to prisons or where

[1:12:49] our youth are just doing things

[1:12:52] that youth do and be subject to

[1:12:54] the criminal justice system.

[1:12:55] In fact, in a little bit I'm

[1:12:56] going to ask attorney battle if

[1:12:58] she will talk about the process

[1:13:01] if someone is in um if cited

[1:13:04] for youth violation under this

[1:13:05] ordinance.

[1:13:06] Also too.

[1:13:08] With the implementation of this

[1:13:10] ordinance if passed one of the

[1:13:11] things we want to do is make

[1:13:12] sure that we're working very

[1:13:12] closely with.

[1:13:13] Community partners.

[1:13:14] I've already.

[1:13:15] Started those conversations.

[1:13:17] Cmpd has always been.

[1:13:18] >> good about working.

[1:13:19] With the community and

[1:13:20] different groups in that regard

[1:13:21] .

[1:13:23] Next slide please.

[1:13:26] So there are a couple things

[1:13:27] or.

[1:13:27] >> do.

[1:13:27] I have.

[1:13:28] >> it here?

[1:13:28] I'm sorry.

[1:13:30] Here we go.

[1:13:32] So a couple things.

[1:13:32] >> I.

[1:13:32] Just.

[1:13:32] Want to.

[1:13:34] >> reiterate and highlight to

[1:13:35] you is first the recommendation

[1:13:37] the overall recommendation is

[1:13:37] that we.

[1:13:38] Modify the curfew.

[1:13:40] Curfew age to include all

[1:13:43] minors 17 and younger and also

[1:13:45] to that the time will be 9 P.M.

[1:13:46] Every day of the week.

[1:13:48] Also to.

[1:13:49] >> a lot of conversation has

[1:13:51] been had about the exceptions

[1:13:52] or the exceptions.

[1:13:53] Many people have stated that

[1:13:55] this is a blanket curfew, that

[1:13:57] there are no exceptions.

[1:13:58] We want to be clear that they

[1:13:59] are.

[1:14:00] We spoke of this last time but

[1:14:02] I think it's worth mentioning

[1:14:03] again especially with cms

[1:14:05] schools starting on tomorrow.

[1:14:06] It is important that we

[1:14:08] understand that youth who are

[1:14:09] going to and from football

[1:14:11] games or other sanctioned youth

[1:14:14] events by schools, religious or

[1:14:15] recreational events that are

[1:14:16] accompanied by an adult or that

[1:14:18] are supervised by an adult.

[1:14:20] Those individuals will be okay.

[1:14:22] They will not be subject to the

[1:14:23] curfew.

[1:14:24] Um additionally, those who are

[1:14:26] running errands by their

[1:14:28] parents or their guardians at

[1:14:29] their direction they will not

[1:14:31] be subject to the curfew.

[1:14:32] Will this mean that an officer

[1:14:34] MAY not stop this person or

[1:14:35] talk to him?

[1:14:36] >> of course not.

[1:14:36] >> what?

[1:14:37] We want to make sure that the

[1:14:37] youth is safe.

[1:14:39] However we will not be taking

[1:14:41] that youth into custody or such

[1:14:43] or doing a juvenile arrest.

[1:14:45] Additionally exceptions exist

[1:14:47] if there is an emergency also

[1:14:49] too if that youth is traveling

[1:14:50] to and from work.

[1:14:53] One of the things that we

[1:14:54] really I have got conversations

[1:14:55] about.

[1:14:55] >> or I've gotten.

[1:14:57] Questions about is concerning a

[1:14:59] 17 year old who is in college.

[1:15:01] I want to reiterate again we

[1:15:02] understand that individuals

[1:15:04] like that are in school.

[1:15:05] They're doing the right thing.

[1:15:06] We are not.

[1:15:08] Going to have a curfew police

[1:15:09] we're not going to have our

[1:15:10] officers patrolling the streets

[1:15:13] of charlotte looking for

[1:15:14] individuals and trying to

[1:15:15] determine their ages so that we

[1:15:16] can do a juvenile arrest or

[1:15:18] that we can take them into

[1:15:18] custody.

[1:15:20] That is not the intent of this.

[1:15:22] Again, we are trying to have a

[1:15:24] tool that when we have teen

[1:15:25] takeovers we have these mass.

[1:15:26] Gatherings.

[1:15:27] >> we're able to address them

[1:15:29] effectively and in a way that

[1:15:31] prevents harm to our youth.

[1:15:34] One other question I wanted to

[1:15:35] make sure that we were

[1:15:37] addressing and to update you is

[1:15:38] concerning some of the studies

[1:15:40] related to curfew.

[1:15:43] In the document that you should

[1:15:44] have received we outlined some

[1:15:46] studies in there we found where

[1:15:47] there were three studies in

[1:15:49] support of positive impacts.

[1:15:50] For curfews.

[1:15:52] There were four that were.

[1:15:53] Mixed impacts.

[1:15:55] And certainly I know that

[1:15:57] people have found studies that

[1:15:59] suggest that curfews are not

[1:16:00] effective.

[1:16:02] What I would say is that many

[1:16:04] of the studies that have been

[1:16:05] used or we have looked at.

[1:16:06] Are not.

[1:16:07] >> current studies.

[1:16:08] They they.

[1:16:10] >> do not address the issue of

[1:16:11] teen takeovers which we have

[1:16:13] seen is a phenomenon that's new

[1:16:14] that we have seen probably in

[1:16:15] the last year year and a.

[1:16:16] Half um.

[1:16:17] Mainly this.

[1:16:18] >> year that we have seen in

[1:16:19] charlotte.

[1:16:20] So because of.

[1:16:22] That I will suggest that we

[1:16:23] look very closely at our data

[1:16:25] that we would move forward with

[1:16:26] this so that we can.

[1:16:27] Gain data, we can.

[1:16:29] Work with some of our local

[1:16:31] universities to be able to

[1:16:33] capture the proper data for our

[1:16:35] community and then we can know

[1:16:36] whether or not this is

[1:16:36] something that is effective,

[1:16:38] that is meaningful for.

[1:16:39] Our community.

[1:16:44] One other area that we wanted

[1:16:46] to address and one of the main

[1:16:47] reasons for the modification

[1:16:48] that we're looking at.

[1:16:50] Is because we want to reduce or

[1:16:52] prevent the victimization of

[1:16:52] our youth.

[1:16:54] I believe that was doctor

[1:16:55] watlington in the last meeting

[1:16:56] asked us if we could break out

[1:16:58] the youth victimization numbers

[1:17:00] to show the different time

[1:17:01] frames and so we were able to

[1:17:03] do that so that you can see

[1:17:06] that particularly at nighttime

[1:17:07] out outdoor juvenile

[1:17:09] victimization is still driven

[1:17:11] primarily by firearm and

[1:17:12] aggravated assaults.

[1:17:13] When we look at the charts you

[1:17:15] can see in the different time

[1:17:15] frames.

[1:17:19] So from 9 P.M. To 5:59 A.M. We

[1:17:21] saw an overall 431 victims.

[1:17:24] Of crime in our community.

[1:17:26] This is youth that are outside

[1:17:28] or in those open spaces.

[1:17:29] If you look at that also too,

[1:17:31] we see that the age of 16 to 17

[1:17:34] was roughly 30% and the

[1:17:36] majority were 80 or assault

[1:17:38] with gun cases or victims.

[1:17:39] Um.

[1:17:40] >> also to looking at the

[1:17:44] demographics 91% were youth of

[1:17:44] color.

[1:17:47] We broke it out between 10.

[1:17:47] >> and 5.

[1:17:50] 5:59 P.M. Or 6 A.M. And you can

[1:17:51] look at the numbers there they

[1:17:53] go down slightly but we still

[1:17:54] see victimization happening

[1:17:55] throughout those hours and

[1:17:57] throughout the early mornings.

[1:18:00] The percentage of our brown and

[1:18:02] black youth that are victimized

[1:18:05] is still in the 90s, which is

[1:18:06] concerning to all of us.

[1:18:08] Having raised two

[1:18:09] african-american males in my

[1:18:10] household, that was always a

[1:18:12] concern that they would be a

[1:18:14] victim of crime or that they

[1:18:15] would be out doing something

[1:18:16] innocently and end up hurt.

[1:18:19] So it is a concern not only for

[1:18:20] me but I know it is for many

[1:18:21] parents and.

[1:18:24] Those in our community.

[1:18:29] One other area an update I want

[1:18:30] to provide is speaking to

[1:18:31] community members.

[1:18:34] The question arose repeatedly

[1:18:35] concerning juvenile arrests.

[1:18:38] What does it mean if we enforce

[1:18:40] this ordinance?

[1:18:42] What does it mean for our youth

[1:18:43] particularly?

[1:18:44] Does it mean that they are

[1:18:45] going to be arrested?

[1:18:46] They're going to be placed in

[1:18:46] handcuffs.

[1:18:47] Do they go through the criminal

[1:18:49] justice system?

[1:18:50] There's a lot of conversation

[1:18:51] even tonight that we're

[1:18:52] criminalizing our young people

[1:18:52] .

[1:18:52] We want.

[1:18:53] >> to.

[1:18:54] Be very clear that that.

[1:18:54] >> is.

[1:18:56] Not what happens necessarily.

[1:18:57] And I'm going to ask attorney

[1:18:59] jessica battle to come forward

[1:19:00] to talk a little bit more.

[1:19:01] But I do want to emphasize the

[1:19:04] point that with a juvenile

[1:19:05] arrest most of the times those

[1:19:06] youth are.

[1:19:08] Returned to their families.

[1:19:09] We call their parents their

[1:19:10] guardians.

[1:19:11] They come and they take

[1:19:12] possession of that youth.

[1:19:14] At no time are they going

[1:19:15] through the sheriff department

[1:19:16] or going to the jail or

[1:19:18] anything like that and there's

[1:19:20] instances in which there are

[1:19:22] criminal activity that occurs

[1:19:23] that necessitate necessitates

[1:19:25] them being in the criminal

[1:19:26] justice system.

[1:19:27] But the majority of these

[1:19:30] juvenile cases of curfew are.

[1:19:30] Not what.

[1:19:31] We're finding.

[1:19:32] So when I'm.

[1:19:33] Asked just.

[1:19:34] >> gives you a come forward to

[1:19:34] talk about just a.

[1:19:34] >> little.

[1:19:35] Bit more.

[1:19:35] >> about the.

[1:19:37] Process so that we can

[1:19:38] understand that a.

[1:19:38] >> little bit better.

[1:19:41] Thank you ma'am.

[1:19:43] Good evening jessica battle

[1:19:44] with the city.

[1:19:45] Attorney's office.

[1:19:46] As chief.

[1:19:48] Stated, if there is probable.

[1:19:49] Cause to charge a juvenile

[1:19:50] with.

[1:19:51] A violation.

[1:19:52] >> of a.

[1:19:52] Curfew or any.

[1:19:53] Particular charge.

[1:19:54] Officers would have to.

[1:19:56] Make an on-scene.

[1:19:56] Decision about.

[1:19:57] Whether or not they were.

[1:19:58] Going to.

[1:20:00] >> charge that juvenile.

[1:20:01] They look at.

[1:20:01] >> many.

[1:20:02] Different factors including.

[1:20:03] >> the severity of the.

[1:20:04] Crime.

[1:20:06] >> the juveniles behavior on

[1:20:06] that.

[1:20:07] Particular encounter.

[1:20:08] And also their.

[1:20:10] Full juvenile history of any

[1:20:12] charges, investigations or

[1:20:12] arrests.

[1:20:13] One of.

[1:20:15] >> the first factors that.

[1:20:16] Officers will.

[1:20:18] Consider after they look into

[1:20:18] the.

[1:20:19] Juveniles history.

[1:20:19] Is whether or.

[1:20:21] Not diversion.

[1:20:21] >> is an option.

[1:20:22] Diversion would.

[1:20:24] Mean sending that juvenile to.

[1:20:25] Some sort of.

[1:20:26] Youth program in.

[1:20:29] Charlotte to look at their

[1:20:29] behavior and look at the sort.

[1:20:30] Of overall.

[1:20:31] Holistic view of that.

[1:20:32] Juvenile to make.

[1:20:34] >> sure that they stay on the.

[1:20:34] >> right.

[1:20:34] Track and.

[1:20:36] Complete that program in order

[1:20:38] to avoid any juvenile charges.

[1:20:40] And so they will review their

[1:20:41] arrest history and.

[1:20:42] Especially for six.

[1:20:42] Six for.

[1:20:43] Six years old.

[1:20:45] Through 17 year olds.

[1:20:47] Those are the ages that are

[1:20:47] subject to.

[1:20:48] Juvenile law.

[1:20:48] And they.

[1:20:49] >> will look.

[1:20:49] >> at those.

[1:20:50] Prior arrests.

[1:20:52] Per cmpd policy.

[1:20:52] If the.

[1:20:53] >> juvenile has a history of

[1:20:55] any prior arrest, they would

[1:20:57] not be subject to.

[1:20:58] seeking a.

[1:20:59] >> diversion program based on

[1:21:00] that policy.

[1:21:02] However.

[1:21:03] >> whether or not cmpd.

[1:21:05] Officers were to divert the

[1:21:06] juvenile to a youth.

[1:21:07] Program.

[1:21:08] >> the department.

[1:21:09] Of juvenile justice and the

[1:21:11] juvenile court counselors in

[1:21:13] the court system could still

[1:21:15] send that juvenile to a

[1:21:16] diversion program prior to it

[1:21:18] getting to the courthouse.

[1:21:19] And let's say that the juvenile

[1:21:21] court counselor chooses not to

[1:21:23] send the youth to a diversion

[1:21:23] program.

[1:21:26] The district court judge in

[1:21:27] juvenile court still has the.

[1:21:29] Final decision to decide.

[1:21:31] Whether or not they will send

[1:21:33] that particular youth to a

[1:21:33] diversion.

[1:21:34] Program as well, and that

[1:21:36] applies for curfew violations

[1:21:38] or any third sort of violation

[1:21:41] that is not diverting.

[1:21:42] Because that barrier.

[1:21:43] When we.

[1:21:45] >> talk about the particular

[1:21:46] juvenile arrest process and

[1:21:47] again this is a general

[1:21:49] overview not just related to

[1:21:49] curfew.

[1:21:51] One of the decisions or things

[1:21:52] that an officer will.

[1:21:53] Have to determine is whether or

[1:21:55] not they need a secure custody

[1:21:56] order.

[1:21:57] You will see that abbreviated

[1:21:58] as esco.

[1:21:59] And that means that the

[1:22:00] juvenile would.

[1:22:03] Be taken to a secured facility

[1:22:04] like a juvenile detention

[1:22:04] facility.

[1:22:07] Um juveniles will have to or

[1:22:07] excuse.

[1:22:08] >> me officers.

[1:22:10] Would need to seek a referral

[1:22:11] from the juvenile court

[1:22:12] counselor to get that secure

[1:22:15] custody order if the crime is a

[1:22:17] felony, if it involves gang

[1:22:19] activity or weapons or if it

[1:22:20] involves an aggravated assault

[1:22:20] .

[1:22:22] So if any juvenile committed

[1:22:22] one.

[1:22:23] >> of those particular.

[1:22:25] Types of crimes, they could.

[1:22:27] >> not be sent by the officer

[1:22:29] through a diversion program and

[1:22:30] the officer was seek that

[1:22:32] secure custody order with the

[1:22:32] juvenile.

[1:22:33] Court counselors.

[1:22:34] Um, let's.

[1:22:37] Say that it is an option for

[1:22:38] officers to divert.

[1:22:39] They would do the police report

[1:22:41] to enter the facts and

[1:22:42] information of what occurred

[1:22:44] and then students in that

[1:22:45] juvenile through the diversion

[1:22:48] program or else if it's a crime

[1:22:50] that is it can be diverted but

[1:22:51] based on that particular

[1:22:53] juvenile history the officer

[1:22:55] does not divert them that

[1:22:56] juvenile within enter the

[1:22:58] juvenile court process by way

[1:22:59] of a petition.

[1:23:01] Um this is governed by chapter

[1:23:03] seven b of our north carolina

[1:23:04] general statutes.

[1:23:05] And would.

[1:23:06] >> involve that child going to

[1:23:07] the eighth floor of the

[1:23:09] courthouse where a juvenile

[1:23:10] district court judge would hear

[1:23:11] that particular matter.

[1:23:14] Um, it's important to state

[1:23:15] here that these charges would

[1:23:18] not automatically initiate a

[1:23:20] neglect case against that

[1:23:21] juvenile or their parent.

[1:23:24] However, I will say that the

[1:23:25] juvenile court system takes a

[1:23:27] very global and holistic look

[1:23:29] at each juvenile and there

[1:23:31] could be any sort of crime

[1:23:32] before a juvenile court judge

[1:23:34] where that matter could end up

[1:23:36] in a case where the family has

[1:23:39] an open dss investigation for

[1:23:40] abuse, neglect or any sort of

[1:23:42] thing but it does not

[1:23:44] automatically flow from a

[1:23:47] curfew charge or any particular

[1:23:47] charge.

[1:23:49] Um, our officers, our juvenile

[1:23:50] court counselors, our district

[1:23:53] court judges all have a duty to

[1:23:54] report and if there were to be

[1:23:56] something in the factual

[1:23:58] circumstances uh, for example,

[1:23:59] a curfew charge that required

[1:24:01] reporting to dss, then that

[1:24:02] would open a file.

[1:24:04] But it is not an automatic part

[1:24:05] of the juvenile arrest process.

[1:24:07] Um, a big thing.

[1:24:08] People think that when

[1:24:10] juveniles are arrested it means

[1:24:11] automatic handcuffs as the

[1:24:13] chief said that they are taken

[1:24:14] to the sheriff's office.

[1:24:16] They are not generally speaking

[1:24:17] with a juvenile arrest.

[1:24:19] The parent or guardian of that

[1:24:21] juvenile is called to come and

[1:24:23] get them and from there

[1:24:24] diversion and petition

[1:24:25] decisions are made about

[1:24:27] whether that case will go to

[1:24:28] court or be diverted.

[1:24:30] Now sometimes when detained

[1:24:32] officers do have a legal

[1:24:34] authority to use handcuffs on

[1:24:35] juveniles depending on the

[1:24:37] particular act committed on

[1:24:39] that date in other factual

[1:24:39] circumstances.

[1:24:40] But the juvenile arrests

[1:24:42] generally involves um the

[1:24:43] juveniles parent or guardian

[1:24:44] being called to pick them up

[1:24:45] and if there's a secure.

[1:24:47] Custody order then that

[1:24:48] juvenile would be transported

[1:24:50] to the secure facility after.

[1:24:51] >> that.

[1:24:51] Juvenile arrest.

[1:24:53] And with that I will turn it

[1:24:55] over to doctor stewart to talk

[1:24:58] about our spaces for youth

[1:24:59] opportunities.

[1:25:03] And evening mayor.

[1:25:05] Manager members of council

[1:25:07] ricky stuart office of youth

[1:25:07] opportunities.

[1:25:08] I wanted to take.

[1:25:09] >> a moment.

[1:25:10] To share.

[1:25:11] Some things that I shared.

[1:25:12] In our previous meeting.

[1:25:13] On AUGUST 10th.

[1:25:14] As it.

[1:25:16] >> relates to what the office.

[1:25:17] >> of youth opportunities.

[1:25:17] Has been doing.

[1:25:19] As it relates to third spaces.

[1:25:20] So we.

[1:25:21] Were a little bit ahead.

[1:25:22] >> of.

[1:25:22] The.

[1:25:23] Game as we have been.

[1:25:24] Working with third spaces for

[1:25:25] over a year.

[1:25:26] We've had.

[1:25:26] >> a great.

[1:25:28] >> partnership with the ymca.

[1:25:29] Where from uh.

[1:25:32] JUNE to DECEMBER we were able

[1:25:34] to provide 200 passes to all of

[1:25:35] the.

[1:25:35] Y's across.

[1:25:37] Charlotte and then.

[1:25:38] This year we were able to

[1:25:39] create a great partnership.

[1:25:40] With mecklenburg county.

[1:25:41] Parks and recreation.

[1:25:44] Where we were able to provide

[1:25:45] 250 passes.

[1:25:46] To the rec.

[1:25:48] Center and we're working.

[1:25:48] >> on.

[1:25:49] expanding that.

[1:25:49] Uh.

[1:25:50] >> I also want to.

[1:25:51] Share that.

[1:25:52] >> chief patterson.

[1:25:52] And I on.

[1:25:54] Last tuesday.

[1:25:55] Had a.

[1:25:56] Great meeting with the ceo of

[1:25:56] the.

[1:25:57] Y and her.

[1:25:59] >> team to discuss what we can

[1:26:00] do to partner.

[1:26:02] To reimagine.

[1:26:03] Third spaces for our youth.

[1:26:04] So we.

[1:26:06] Left out of the meeting, um.

[1:26:08] Feeling very good.

[1:26:09] About some opportunities.

[1:26:10] And my.

[1:26:11] Team and I are now.

[1:26:12] Working on.

[1:26:14] Ideating a pilot with.

[1:26:16] The ymca to offer third spaces.

[1:26:18] Over the next ten months.

[1:26:20] Um, some of the additional

[1:26:21] things.

[1:26:21] >> that we're.

[1:26:23] Doing as a relates to third

[1:26:23] spaces.

[1:26:24] Is I did mention we have.

[1:26:25] >> a.

[1:26:26] Partnership grant that.

[1:26:27] >> we are.

[1:26:28] Working on finalizing.

[1:26:29] So once I have an.

[1:26:29] Opportunity to.

[1:26:30] >> get.

[1:26:31] That to my leadership, the goal

[1:26:32] is.

[1:26:32] >> to.

[1:26:33] Have that out before the.

[1:26:34] End of SEPTEMBER.

[1:26:36] This will give us an

[1:26:37] opportunity to work with other

[1:26:39] partners across the city to

[1:26:41] create additional third spaces

[1:26:41] for youth.

[1:26:43] And lastly, we have.

[1:26:45] Already started working with

[1:26:45] cmf.

[1:26:45] And other.

[1:26:47] Partners as it relates.

[1:26:48] To teacher workdays because we.

[1:26:50] Understand it's not.

[1:26:51] >> just the weekends that the

[1:26:52] youth need something to do.

[1:26:53] It's not just after.

[1:26:54] Is any time.

[1:26:55] That they are left alone.

[1:26:57] So the great thing about the

[1:26:57] office.

[1:26:59] >> of youth opportunity.

[1:26:59] >> since.

[1:27:00] Its inception is we have.

[1:27:02] Looked at the child.

[1:27:02] As a whole.

[1:27:05] So we're not just looking to

[1:27:05] give them somewhere to.

[1:27:06] Go and play.

[1:27:09] We're looking to give them

[1:27:09] programing.

[1:27:11] We're looking to give them

[1:27:11] exposure.

[1:27:12] We make.

[1:27:13] Sure that our partners do.

[1:27:15] Provide wraparound services and

[1:27:16] provide mentorship.

[1:27:17] So we will definitely.

[1:27:18] Keep you posted on.

[1:27:19] Our pilot.

[1:27:21] And we will uh, let everyone

[1:27:23] know when the grant.

[1:27:24] Opportunity becomes available.

[1:27:26] So I will turn it back over to.

[1:27:26] Chief patterson.

[1:27:31] Stewart.

[1:27:32] >> and one final.

[1:27:33] >> thing I would note is that

[1:27:36] um, with the implementation of

[1:27:38] this youth ordinance, if you so

[1:27:40] desire, we will make sure that

[1:27:41] we do a full.

[1:27:42] Scale education.

[1:27:43] Campaign regarding this.

[1:27:45] Uh, we would want to make sure

[1:27:47] that first foremost all our

[1:27:47] officers will be.

[1:27:49] Informed that again this is

[1:27:50] just a tool to help.

[1:27:51] us to.

[1:27:53] Ensure that our young people

[1:27:53] are safe and they're.

[1:27:54] In safe spaces.

[1:27:57] Additionally, any interaction

[1:27:59] that our officers would have

[1:28:00] with any member of the youth as

[1:28:01] is our policy right now.

[1:28:02] They have to wear their.

[1:28:04] Body worn cameras so we would

[1:28:05] be able to track information.

[1:28:07] To ensure that this is.

[1:28:10] Applied fairly equitably across

[1:28:12] the city and again that those

[1:28:14] exceptions that are in place

[1:28:15] would be considered and would

[1:28:17] be part of this ordinance.

[1:28:19] So with that I will open.

[1:28:19] >> it up.

[1:28:20] For any.

[1:28:20] >> questions that you.

[1:28:21] >> MAY have of us.

[1:28:23] Concerning any of this.

[1:28:25] Thank you chief patterson and

[1:28:27] team uh, no we have let's see

[1:28:29] we have at least three

[1:28:31] questions starting with doctor

[1:28:31] watlington.

[1:28:32] Thurman out here.

[1:28:33] Okay.

[1:28:34] Got watlington.

[1:28:36] All right I've got four quick.

[1:28:38] Um, if we could go.

[1:28:39] To yes.

[1:28:40] Uh, chief, perhaps a we could

[1:28:40] go to slide three.

[1:28:43] I want to make sure that I

[1:28:43] understand.

[1:28:45] What the numbers are telling.

[1:28:45] >> us here.

[1:28:49] Can you walk me through what.

[1:28:50] Is the story that the data.

[1:28:51] Is telling here?

[1:28:52] What is what.

[1:28:53] >> is the.

[1:28:54] Hypothesis?

[1:28:55] >> yes, ma'am.

[1:28:57] So the story that's.

[1:28:59] Telling us is that we have

[1:29:01] youth victimization happening

[1:29:03] from 9 P.M. To 6:00 in the

[1:29:03] morning.

[1:29:05] And when we look at the

[1:29:06] percentages one I think it's

[1:29:06] just.

[1:29:07] We should.

[1:29:09] >> note that 91%.

[1:29:12] Throughout the night and into

[1:29:15] the early morning are people of

[1:29:15] youth or of color.

[1:29:16] I'm sorry.

[1:29:18] Um, are black and brown

[1:29:20] children I think which is from

[1:29:22] what we hear is a concern.

[1:29:24] So how do we get this number

[1:29:24] down?

[1:29:25] How do we work to get it down?

[1:29:26] >> so I'm sorry.

[1:29:26] >> I just.

[1:29:27] >> want to make sure I'm.

[1:29:27] Clear.

[1:29:29] >> this light this dark blue is

[1:29:30] total victims.

[1:29:31] This light blue that says age

[1:29:33] of 16 to 17 is that victims or

[1:29:33] offenders?

[1:29:34] These are.

[1:29:35] Victims okay?

[1:29:37] This is all victimization okay

[1:29:37] ?

[1:29:38] Yes ma'am.

[1:29:40] And so and if I could just

[1:29:43] break it down for you so from 9

[1:29:45] P.M. To 5:59 A.M. We had 431

[1:29:45] victims.

[1:29:47] These are actual victims of

[1:29:50] crimes during that time period

[1:29:53] from 10 P.M. To 6 A.M. The

[1:29:54] number shrinks a little bit but

[1:29:59] we had 300 and then from 11

[1:29:59] P.M..

[1:29:59] >> to.

[1:29:59] 6.

[1:30:00] A.M..

[1:30:01] 266 victims.

[1:30:04] And so at 9 P.M. From 9 P.M. To

[1:30:06] 6 A.M., 127.

[1:30:07] Of these total.

[1:30:10] Victims are aged 16 and 17.

[1:30:11] Yes, ma'am.

[1:30:11] >> and then.

[1:30:13] At 11.

[1:30:13] >> P.M..

[1:30:15] That number is 77.

[1:30:15] So basically the.

[1:30:18] Difference between 122.

[1:30:18] >> and 77 is.

[1:30:19] What you're.

[1:30:19] >> saying we.

[1:30:21] Will you're hoping to reduce.

[1:30:21] Yes ma'am.

[1:30:22] Victimization and.

[1:30:24] >> then that percentage as well

[1:30:25] trying to get that number down

[1:30:27] as low as possible to protect

[1:30:27] our youth.

[1:30:29] And can you just a quick follow

[1:30:31] up can you then help me

[1:30:31] understand.

[1:30:34] Uh the reason I'm asking this

[1:30:35] question because I think about

[1:30:36] the alternatives to violence

[1:30:37] work that we're doing.

[1:30:38] >> and so.

[1:30:38] My immediate question

[1:30:41] especially as I see 81 gun here

[1:30:44] is how many of those are

[1:30:45] addressed through that

[1:30:47] retaliatory violence piece

[1:30:49] versus through the curfew.

[1:30:50] I'm still not quite clear on

[1:30:51] the mechanism.

[1:30:52] That's changing.

[1:30:55] So our desire our goal is that

[1:30:56] we get that number down.

[1:30:59] The number of victims of crime

[1:30:59] .

[1:31:00] As well.

[1:31:00] >> as.

[1:31:01] Offenders of crime that are

[1:31:01] youth.

[1:31:03] And so I think for us is just

[1:31:04] being able to.

[1:31:06] You know, knowing that when you

[1:31:06] throw out.

[1:31:07] >> a.

[1:31:09] Theory is when they are out

[1:31:10] then they're being victimized

[1:31:13] and some are also causing um

[1:31:13] victimization.

[1:31:15] so we would like to reduce both

[1:31:17] of those the curfew we believe

[1:31:18] would help us to do that

[1:31:19] because when youth are out

[1:31:19] then.

[1:31:21] They're getting in trouble but

[1:31:22] when they're not out they're

[1:31:23] not um victimizing.

[1:31:26] And then just too quickly we

[1:31:28] and I asked this last time but

[1:31:28] I'm.

[1:31:30] Hoping that maybe we can dig

[1:31:30] into.

[1:31:31] >> a little bit deeper here

[1:31:32] right now the sun sets

[1:31:34] somewhere between 8 and 9.

[1:31:35] We know in the winter time it's

[1:31:37] going to be somewhere between 4

[1:31:37] and 5:00.

[1:31:41] What is the what is the thought

[1:31:42] process during the winter time

[1:31:43] of how this applies?

[1:31:43] >> do we.

[1:31:45] Are there tell me what your

[1:31:45] thoughts are.

[1:31:48] Yeah so you know we want to be

[1:31:50] reasonable with the time that

[1:31:51] we set this curfew right based

[1:31:53] on what our data shows us.

[1:31:56] Um, you know, at 9 P.M. You

[1:31:57] have more victims.

[1:31:59] So we certainly felt like 8

[1:32:00] P.M. Was unreasonable.

[1:32:01] We looked at other cities what

[1:32:03] they're doing just to benchmark

[1:32:05] um, I believe firmly that.

[1:32:09] If we go with a 9 P.M. Curfew

[1:32:11] that is enough time that if you

[1:32:13] start to gather they start to,

[1:32:15] um, congregate we can dismantle

[1:32:15] it.

[1:32:18] We can prevent them from having

[1:32:19] um, harmful events or being

[1:32:21] engaged in something that could

[1:32:21] where they victimize.

[1:32:22] Or they.

[1:32:23] >> can be victimize.

[1:32:25] I don't know if I'm answering

[1:32:25] your question fully.

[1:32:27] Well for the summertime.

[1:32:29] sure in the winter time that's

[1:32:31] 4 or 5 hours where youth would

[1:32:32] still be permitted to be out

[1:32:34] but it is also dark and people

[1:32:34] .

[1:32:35] Are likely inside.

[1:32:37] So I'm just curious as to how

[1:32:39] we're thinking about how this

[1:32:41] applies during the winter

[1:32:41] months.

[1:32:42] Sure.

[1:32:43] >> I think in the winter months

[1:32:44] as you stated people tend to be

[1:32:45] inside more.

[1:32:46] I think there's more

[1:32:47] opportunities for happy to have

[1:32:48] events for our youth,

[1:32:50] meaningful events, things that

[1:32:51] they can do so they they are

[1:32:52] not outside.

[1:32:53] They're not out during that.

[1:32:54] Time.

[1:32:54] Okay.

[1:32:56] And then just finally are you

[1:32:56] suggesting.

[1:32:58] As part of your proposal.

[1:33:00] >> a pilot to gather data?

[1:33:02] Are you suggesting full on

[1:33:03] implementation at the start.

[1:33:05] We would like an implementation

[1:33:05] .

[1:33:06] I think a pilot is something

[1:33:07] that could be.

[1:33:08] Considered especially if we

[1:33:09] want to get substantive data.

[1:33:11] I think that's an opportunity

[1:33:12] for us to do that.

[1:33:14] Thank you thank you.

[1:33:14] Great.

[1:33:15] >> and uh next is council

[1:33:16] member mayo.

[1:33:18] Um thank you doctor watlington

[1:33:18] .

[1:33:20] And that was sort of thinking

[1:33:22] time that was 3 or 4 minutes.

[1:33:25] Um if we could try to keep our

[1:33:26] comments and try not to be too

[1:33:28] repetitive redundant um, but

[1:33:29] also keep our comments

[1:33:30] somewhere in that range I think

[1:33:32] we can um, have a.

[1:33:33] Good discussion of an important

[1:33:33] issue so.

[1:33:34] You know, for me.

[1:33:35] Thank you.

[1:33:35] Um.

[1:33:36] >> I've asked.

[1:33:37] That the map be.

[1:33:38] Shown for.

[1:33:39] >> district three.

[1:33:39] Um.

[1:33:40] >> and I'm sure some of my.

[1:33:42] Colleagues MAY want their

[1:33:43] district map shown as well but.

[1:33:45] I thought this is really good

[1:33:45] data.

[1:33:46] Um, this is something I've.

[1:33:47] >> been.

[1:33:47] Talking about.

[1:33:50] Probably almost ten years.

[1:33:52] Since I first moved to orleans

[1:33:53] forward.

[1:33:54] Um, and I know this is an all

[1:33:55] city.

[1:33:56] Investment, but I just want us

[1:33:56] to be thoughtful.

[1:33:57] Holistically.

[1:33:58] >> particularly when we're

[1:33:59] talking about young people.

[1:34:01] You know, we want to equip.

[1:34:01] You with with.

[1:34:02] Everything that you need.

[1:34:04] >> in order to decrease.

[1:34:06] Victimization, uh, for our.

[1:34:06] >> young people.

[1:34:07] But how.

[1:34:08] >> can.

[1:34:08] We also.

[1:34:09] Encourage our.

[1:34:11] County counterparts to help do

[1:34:11] their part?

[1:34:13] MISTER Manager be able to get

[1:34:13] that up there?

[1:34:15] Sorry we talked about it

[1:34:16] earlier so okay.

[1:34:18] Should I come back?

[1:34:19] >> y'all come back to me.

[1:34:19] Okay.

[1:34:20] >> we'll do that.

[1:34:20] Okay.

[1:34:22] uh, council member edgemere.

[1:34:22] Will come back.

[1:34:24] And thank you.

[1:34:24] Mayor harrington.

[1:34:26] You're doing an excellent job.

[1:34:28] Keeping track of all the hands

[1:34:29] that's been raised.

[1:34:30] Y'all are helping.

[1:34:31] Um.

[1:34:34] First chief, thank you for your

[1:34:34] leadership.

[1:34:36] I understand that you are

[1:34:37] asking for.

[1:34:37] A tool.

[1:34:40] In the case where there is a

[1:34:42] teen takeover that could turn

[1:34:43] violent.

[1:34:48] Um, I certainly appreciate and

[1:34:49] respect your leadership.

[1:34:54] I would like to see if we can

[1:34:58] do a pilot to gather data and

[1:34:59] then based on the data it will

[1:35:01] tell us whether this is

[1:35:03] something that will work in our

[1:35:03] region or not.

[1:35:04] Right.

[1:35:05] Because your.

[1:35:08] Department and alongside doctor

[1:35:10] stewart's office gave us.

[1:35:13] Studies and I appreciate that

[1:35:14] he was objective right.

[1:35:16] It was an all pro curfew wasn't

[1:35:17] all the entire curfew was

[1:35:19] somewhere in the middle right.

[1:35:20] We had some.

[1:35:21] Studies that shows mixed

[1:35:21] results.

[1:35:23] There were.

[1:35:24] >> some studies that shows it

[1:35:25] works.

[1:35:26] So for us.

[1:35:27] >> to really.

[1:35:32] Not have an objective study

[1:35:34] done, I think.

[1:35:36] Our data can tell us whether

[1:35:37] this will work or not.

[1:35:38] So my question.

[1:35:40] >> to you is would you be

[1:35:41] willing to do a pilot.

[1:35:44] Program and see whether we are

[1:35:49] able to see improvement in teen

[1:35:51] takeovers that turn violent?

[1:35:53] Yes ma'am and thank you for

[1:35:53] that.

[1:35:54] I will be willing to do

[1:35:55] something like that.

[1:35:55] I think it is.

[1:35:56] Reasonable and it.

[1:35:58] Allows us in real time to be

[1:35:59] able to see is this something

[1:36:00] that would be effective here in

[1:36:02] charlotte especially based on

[1:36:03] what we're seeing?

[1:36:04] I don't think that we can as I

[1:36:06] stated before, just rely on the

[1:36:06] studies.

[1:36:06] Um.

[1:36:08] >> they're in different parts

[1:36:09] of the nation.

[1:36:10] They are 2030 years old.

[1:36:13] I think we can get real data if

[1:36:14] we look here in.

[1:36:15] Charlotte and.

[1:36:15] >> and do.

[1:36:16] A pilot.

[1:36:18] I appreciate that.

[1:36:20] I would like us to explore that

[1:36:22] alternative uh, so that we are

[1:36:24] looking at real data that is

[1:36:25] local.

[1:36:28] Uh, also doctor stewart, I

[1:36:28] appreciate.

[1:36:28] >> the.

[1:36:30] Report that your team put

[1:36:30] together.

[1:36:34] Uh, I appreciate have office of

[1:36:36] youth opportunities have.

[1:36:39] Touched over 5000 lives and I

[1:36:41] know that we are not going to

[1:36:41] stop here.

[1:36:42] We are going to continue to

[1:36:43] increase our investments.

[1:36:45] But I just want to give kudos

[1:36:46] to you and your team because I

[1:36:49] know this is relatively a new

[1:36:52] team that was uh that was part

[1:36:53] of our last year's budget.

[1:36:55] So I appreciate the work that

[1:36:56] you do.

[1:36:59] I was myself alongside council

[1:37:01] member watlington and council

[1:37:03] member graham were at civic

[1:37:05] engagement event last weekend

[1:37:09] and this topic had come up and

[1:37:11] I met two youth members who had

[1:37:13] participated in some of our

[1:37:14] programs and they had great

[1:37:15] things to say.

[1:37:16] So thank you for all the work

[1:37:17] that you are doing.

[1:37:18] That's all I have.

[1:37:19] Thank you.

[1:37:20] >> council members mayor,

[1:37:20] council.

[1:37:22] Member mayor.

[1:37:22] Are you said yes or.

[1:37:24] I don't know okay.

[1:37:25] We'll go to council member.

[1:37:25] Oakland and.

[1:37:25] Come back.

[1:37:27] >> to you.

[1:37:28] He's working on pulling it up.

[1:37:30] Thank you.

[1:37:31] >> chief patterson.

[1:37:32] >> and I appreciate the

[1:37:32] presentation.

[1:37:32] I.

[1:37:34] >> um, had a conversation over

[1:37:35] the.

[1:37:36] Weekend with a constituent.

[1:37:36] Who MAY or MAY.

[1:37:38] Not be one of my three children

[1:37:38] .

[1:37:39] Um.

[1:37:41] >> about the curfew.

[1:37:42] >> and his.

[1:37:43] Question to me was one I could

[1:37:43] not.

[1:37:46] Answer and he said to me why.

[1:37:48] Don't you do what they do?

[1:37:49] Would we go on?

[1:37:50] Um.

[1:37:50] >> you.

[1:37:51] Know.

[1:37:51] .

[1:37:52] Spring break.

[1:37:52] And they've.

[1:37:53] Got rules.

[1:37:54] >> that are.

[1:37:55] Focused on the size of a

[1:37:55] congregation.

[1:37:57] They're focused on a gathering.

[1:37:57] They are focused.

[1:37:59] >> on enforcing curfew.

[1:38:02] Against a mass and you know,

[1:38:02] depending.

[1:38:02] >> on.

[1:38:03] What number.

[1:38:04] Perhaps we settle.

[1:38:06] >> on so that we're.

[1:38:08] Not potentially putting at

[1:38:08] risk.

[1:38:10] Kids who are out on a date.

[1:38:11] And kids who are coming.

[1:38:12] To and from events.

[1:38:14] Can you address that?

[1:38:15] I haven't had an opportunity.

[1:38:15] >> to.

[1:38:15] Do.

[1:38:15] My own.

[1:38:17] >> research on whether some of

[1:38:18] these things that.

[1:38:18] You see.

[1:38:20] In destin or some of the the

[1:38:21] destinations.

[1:38:22] Where people do congregate,

[1:38:22] where they.

[1:38:24] Are effectively able to break.

[1:38:26] >> up large masses of

[1:38:26] unaccompanied.

[1:38:27] Minors can you.

[1:38:28] Speak to that?

[1:38:29] >> and I will.

[1:38:29] Try um.

[1:38:31] >> I'm not sure totally that

[1:38:32] I'm understanding.

[1:38:32] .

[1:38:34] >> the question would be that

[1:38:35] it would be a.

[1:38:37] Curfew that was tailored more

[1:38:37] against.

[1:38:39] A congregation.

[1:38:41] I've heard you use the phrase

[1:38:41] congregation gathering.

[1:38:42] It feels.

[1:38:44] Like to narrowly tailor this.

[1:38:46] So that we're not just not.

[1:38:47] Enforcing it against kids.

[1:38:50] The face of this would enforce

[1:38:50] it against a.

[1:38:51] people on a.

[1:38:52] >> date and.

[1:38:52] >> a movie.

[1:38:53] Goes long.

[1:38:55] Okay, you're saying to me that

[1:38:56] you would not expect your.

[1:38:57] Officers nor.

[1:38:57] >> do.

[1:38:59] You have adequate officers to

[1:38:59] enforce that.

[1:39:00] >> is a.

[1:39:00] Curfew police.

[1:39:03] Can we more narrowly tailored

[1:39:03] the.

[1:39:04] Curfew such that it.

[1:39:05] Wouldn't apply to two.

[1:39:07] Couples who are out on a date

[1:39:09] versus a group of.

[1:39:11] Ten individuals who are under

[1:39:11] age?

[1:39:13] So you're really targeting more

[1:39:13] of the.

[1:39:15] Congregation aspect than just

[1:39:16] the age.

[1:39:16] Sure.

[1:39:18] >> so if I understand you

[1:39:19] correctly so we're saying that

[1:39:20] if you have youth that are

[1:39:21] gathered in a particular area

[1:39:22] of the uptown.

[1:39:25] Perhaps um just focus in just

[1:39:26] in that area is what you're

[1:39:27] saying.

[1:39:27] Look.

[1:39:28] >> it was just.

[1:39:29] Specifically speaking of that.

[1:39:29] Area although that's.

[1:39:31] Another way of narrowly

[1:39:31] tailoring.

[1:39:32] >> it if.

[1:39:32] You wanted.

[1:39:33] >> to have it on certain areas

[1:39:35] of the city where are more

[1:39:36] frequently occupied.

[1:39:37] I was.

[1:39:38] >> speaking more.

[1:39:39] >> to say you've got.

[1:39:40] Ten youth are together.

[1:39:42] Your officers are going to.

[1:39:43] Ask them what's up and enforce

[1:39:45] the curfew versus.

[1:39:47] A couple kids on a date and go

[1:39:48] see a movie that last past

[1:39:49] nine.

[1:39:52] I mean I just I personally.

[1:39:52] >> couldn't.

[1:39:53] Answer the question that was.

[1:39:54] Raised of me as to.

[1:39:55] >> are.

[1:39:56] We exploring all ways.

[1:39:57] >> that we could more narrowly

[1:39:58] tailor this.

[1:39:59] And have it.

[1:40:00] Address what we're really

[1:40:01] trying to get at.

[1:40:02] >> which is gatherings?

[1:40:03] Sure, yes.

[1:40:04] And I would say that you know,

[1:40:06] we thought as the beginning

[1:40:08] stages of this we thought about

[1:40:09] locations where we have tend to

[1:40:10] see the teen takeovers.

[1:40:11] The problem with that is

[1:40:13] they're all over they're

[1:40:14] everywhere and if you try to

[1:40:15] just narrow it to one location

[1:40:17] ,if we put all our resources

[1:40:19] say in the uptown area then

[1:40:20] we've seen where they would go

[1:40:21] to the university area.

[1:40:22] ,northlake.

[1:40:24] >> area, um huntersville

[1:40:26] frankie's all these various

[1:40:27] locations where these youth

[1:40:29] like to hang out and so we want

[1:40:30] to be able to have a tool that

[1:40:32] wherever they go we're able to

[1:40:33] go there and start to break

[1:40:35] that up and um, make sure that

[1:40:36] we don't have incidents as a

[1:40:38] result of it.

[1:40:40] So I, I don't know that.

[1:40:41] Narrowing it.

[1:40:43] >> down to just one particular

[1:40:45] area would be effective in

[1:40:47] trying to prevent them in the

[1:40:48] first place, um, kind of thing

[1:40:49] .

[1:40:51] Um, the other part that you

[1:40:52] said, you know, looking at

[1:40:54] congregations or areas I think

[1:40:54] I.

[1:40:55] Understand you're saying.

[1:40:56] That if we were to just focus

[1:40:57] on.

[1:40:57] >> a.

[1:40:59] Group particular group.

[1:41:02] Are you saying to give those.

[1:41:04] To violate those individuals

[1:41:04] for.

[1:41:06] So I'm saying that I've asked

[1:41:07] our staff to.

[1:41:08] Look into.

[1:41:10] And I would ask you to also

[1:41:10] have.

[1:41:11] Folks look.

[1:41:14] Into what destinations that

[1:41:14] frequently.

[1:41:15] Are able to.

[1:41:17] Disperse large gatherings of

[1:41:17] unaccompanied.

[1:41:19] Minors are.

[1:41:20] Doing that is not.

[1:41:21] Putting at risk.

[1:41:23] Folks who.

[1:41:25] Are otherwise.

[1:41:26] Just doing the things that kids

[1:41:26] .

[1:41:28] Do in couples or.

[1:41:29] >> in.

[1:41:30] Small groups of kids.

[1:41:30] There is.

[1:41:31] >> a big.

[1:41:31] Difference in my.

[1:41:33] Mind between someone.

[1:41:34] Going to see a movie.

[1:41:36] Or coming back from.

[1:41:36] ,you know.

[1:41:38] Whatever they're coming back

[1:41:38] from at night.

[1:41:39] And they happen to.

[1:41:40] >> be alone.

[1:41:41] I would like to not have.

[1:41:43] Them have an interaction with

[1:41:44] the police for no reason.

[1:41:46] And I appreciate that you've.

[1:41:47] Told us that that is highly.

[1:41:48] Unlikely to.

[1:41:49] Happen because you just.

[1:41:50] >> don't have the officers.

[1:41:50] >> to.

[1:41:50] Do it.

[1:41:51] >> I'm asking.

[1:41:52] Instead could.

[1:41:54] We look at tailoring.

[1:41:55] This curfew.

[1:41:56] So that that isn't even an

[1:41:57] issue so that.

[1:41:58] Unless you're in a group of.

[1:41:59] Ten people.

[1:42:01] Sure is a minor.

[1:42:02] You're not going to have that

[1:42:03] interaction with.

[1:42:03] >> the.

[1:42:04] Police officer?

[1:42:04] Sure.

[1:42:05] That is something to consider.

[1:42:07] Now I'm understanding what

[1:42:07] you're asking.

[1:42:09] My apologies for not

[1:42:09] articulating.

[1:42:09] It well.

[1:42:10] Yes.

[1:42:12] >> no I think I understand what

[1:42:12] you're saying.

[1:42:14] I mean and certainly if they're

[1:42:15] in a group together they're in

[1:42:17] a safe space together then we

[1:42:19] would not want to enforce it

[1:42:19] necessarily.

[1:42:20] That is something that we can

[1:42:20] consider.

[1:42:21] Thank you.

[1:42:23] .

[1:42:23] >> thank you, councilmember

[1:42:24] owens.

[1:42:24] Councilmember.

[1:42:25] >> yeah I'm ready.

[1:42:25] Yeah.

[1:42:27] >> um I just.

[1:42:28] Really wanted to highlight the

[1:42:29] map.

[1:42:29] Um, and.

[1:42:31] >> actually having.

[1:42:33] The entire charlotte region.

[1:42:35] Is really helpful I think.

[1:42:35] Um.

[1:42:38] >> to see gaps not only in

[1:42:38] district three.

[1:42:39] But in district.

[1:42:41] six in.

[1:42:42] District seven.

[1:42:43] Um in five.

[1:42:44] Um.

[1:42:46] >> when I think of when you

[1:42:46] all.

[1:42:46] Mentioned partnering.

[1:42:47] With the.

[1:42:49] Ymca, I know that still creek

[1:42:50] lost its.

[1:42:52] Ymca maybe like three years

[1:42:52] ago.

[1:42:54] So I mean I don't know.

[1:42:55] >> who you would necessarily.

[1:42:55] Partner with.

[1:42:56] When there's no y there.

[1:42:57] Um, and.

[1:42:59] >> even when.

[1:42:59] >> you.

[1:42:59] Look at.

[1:43:00] >> more closer.

[1:43:02] Can you tell us more about what

[1:43:03] you would do with the high

[1:43:03] schools?

[1:43:05] Because I saw your dots in the

[1:43:06] high schools.

[1:43:07] Are you doing programing in the

[1:43:08] high schools?

[1:43:10] Just curious what that looks

[1:43:10] like.

[1:43:11] >> so with the high schools

[1:43:12] it's more of the teacher.

[1:43:13] >> work.

[1:43:14] Days but when you speak about

[1:43:15] the.

[1:43:15] Gaps those are.

[1:43:16] >> the.

[1:43:17] Things that we're looking at.

[1:43:17] So that's why it's.

[1:43:18] Taken us a.

[1:43:18] >> little bit.

[1:43:19] >> of time to put the grant

[1:43:20] application.

[1:43:22] Together because we want to

[1:43:22] make sure we're.

[1:43:23] Leveraging not.

[1:43:24] Only where there.

[1:43:25] Is a lack.

[1:43:26] But that we're.

[1:43:28] Leveraging cmpd, cmpd data.

[1:43:29] >> so we want we're really

[1:43:30] wanting to be intentional.

[1:43:31] And I really.

[1:43:32] Appreciate that.

[1:43:33] >> as a former teacher.

[1:43:34] I love data.

[1:43:35] Uh, always one.

[1:43:36] >> of my favorite things look

[1:43:37] at teaching math.

[1:43:40] Um but I just want to encourage

[1:43:42] all of our various partners um

[1:43:43] ,particularly the county.

[1:43:44] Um.

[1:43:45] >> and they know I get on them

[1:43:46] quite a bit but.

[1:43:48] I see some gaps and I.

[1:43:50] Hope that our.

[1:43:50] Residents will.

[1:43:53] >> have some conversations with

[1:43:54] their county commissioners

[1:43:55] about investment and I'm just

[1:43:55] I'm.

[1:43:55] Be very.

[1:43:56] Frank with.

[1:43:57] >> that because it's not.

[1:43:57] Something that.

[1:43:58] You all can do by yourselves.

[1:44:00] Um, that investment needs to

[1:44:01] occur.

[1:44:03] Everywhere so that our young

[1:44:03] people have.

[1:44:06] Things to do and you know, not

[1:44:07] getting in mischief.

[1:44:08] >> so just want to.

[1:44:09] Put that out there.

[1:44:10] Um, excited.

[1:44:11] >> to see the work that y'all

[1:44:12] are doing.

[1:44:13] Um I think that y'all are doing

[1:44:15] great work and very

[1:44:15] appreciative of it.

[1:44:16] I guess.

[1:44:17] >> my only concern is when we

[1:44:19] talk about giving passes to.

[1:44:19] Young people.

[1:44:21] There's nowhere for young

[1:44:22] people to go in some of these

[1:44:25] districts for those passes and

[1:44:26] that's why we really have to

[1:44:28] get to the root of the issue

[1:44:29] which are the gaps.

[1:44:31] So I just want to say so that's

[1:44:31] the difference.

[1:44:32] >> with.

[1:44:32] The partnerships we're not

[1:44:33] looking.

[1:44:33] >> at just handing.

[1:44:34] >> out passes.

[1:44:35] We're looking at being.

[1:44:36] Intentional and we.

[1:44:37] >> met.

[1:44:37] With.

[1:44:38] The why we looked at every.

[1:44:38] Load we.

[1:44:38] Looked at.

[1:44:40] >> we looked at their map to

[1:44:41] see where they had locations.

[1:44:42] We bounce.

[1:44:42] >> that.

[1:44:43] Off chief.

[1:44:44] >> to talk about.

[1:44:45] Different things that were

[1:44:46] happening in those communities.

[1:44:47] So just know that we.

[1:44:48] >> are being more intentional.

[1:44:49] We're not.

[1:44:50] Just passing out passes.

[1:44:51] And we.

[1:44:52] >> definitely want to make sure

[1:44:52] that.

[1:44:53] >> we're addressing the need.

[1:44:54] Thank you.

[1:44:56] And I just add to that we've

[1:44:58] had a number of nonprofits.

[1:44:59] We've had business community

[1:45:00] members coming to us saying we

[1:45:01] want to be a part of the

[1:45:03] solution finding those third

[1:45:04] spaces for our youth.

[1:45:06] So I think that is all the

[1:45:06] conversation we've been having

[1:45:07] about this has really garnered

[1:45:09] some good responses.

[1:45:11] Very excited I know ricky

[1:45:11] seeing.

[1:45:12] Was supposed.

[1:45:12] >> to.

[1:45:13] Talk today.

[1:45:14] Unfortunately he was not here

[1:45:16] but he had some great maps to

[1:45:17] show as well and excited.

[1:45:18] >> for.

[1:45:19] Him to share those.

[1:45:20] So that we can see the

[1:45:21] solutions.

[1:45:22] >> that you are working with

[1:45:24] with your various partners.

[1:45:24] So I'll stop talking.

[1:45:25] And also.

[1:45:27] Member mayo council member

[1:45:27] mayfield.

[1:45:31] Thank you mayor 17.

[1:45:33] Thank you for the information.

[1:45:35] I um a number.

[1:45:36] Of questions.

[1:45:41] One I'm going to encourage a

[1:45:43] pilot where we actually talk to

[1:45:44] our youth.

[1:45:46] Before versus adults coming up

[1:45:48] with what you think is the

[1:45:49] option.

[1:45:49] Last week.

[1:45:54] I had the opportunity to uh to

[1:45:54] .

[1:45:56] An event uh.

[1:45:57] Spark house.

[1:45:59] Where they basically had.

[1:45:59] >> a.

[1:46:01] Teen take over and one of our.

[1:46:04] Cmpd law enforcement officers

[1:46:05] with their youth came up with

[1:46:05] a.

[1:46:09] Basically a mini shark tank

[1:46:10] where they came up with

[1:46:11] different opportunities.

[1:46:14] I have concerns with the

[1:46:15] possibilities because what I'm

[1:46:16] not going.

[1:46:17] What I cannot.

[1:46:21] Discount is that it was one.

[1:46:22] Of our.

[1:46:29] Youth officers who was an adult

[1:46:29] .

[1:46:32] That while on school property

[1:46:33] interacting with a youth

[1:46:35] slammed a child on the ground.

[1:46:38] It has been our officers that

[1:46:40] we have had multiple

[1:46:41] conversations with over the

[1:46:44] years with interactions with

[1:46:46] adults that has resulted in a

[1:46:47] number of lawsuits.

[1:46:49] So I'm definitely concerned

[1:46:49] about how you interact with.

[1:46:51] Children without.

[1:46:52] Hearing a number.

[1:46:54] I personally don't think that

[1:46:56] number is ten of we're seeing

[1:46:57] hundreds of children are coming

[1:47:00] uh, gathering together out of

[1:47:02] those hundreds of kids we have

[1:47:04] 12 to 15 that unfortunately

[1:47:05] cause a challenge.

[1:47:07] What is that number?

[1:47:10] Is it 25 young people together

[1:47:10] ?

[1:47:11] Is it 50 young people together

[1:47:13] that's going to trigger someone

[1:47:14] to interact?

[1:47:17] I'm concerned as far as these

[1:47:18] exceptions.

[1:47:19] So what do we say when they

[1:47:21] have to walk around with a pass

[1:47:21] that.

[1:47:25] Gives me quite.

[1:47:25] >> a bit.

[1:47:27] Of concern I think about

[1:47:29] unfortunately since both of my

[1:47:30] parents had passed when I was

[1:47:30] young.

[1:47:30] I was working.

[1:47:34] At a young age now the court

[1:47:35] wouldn't have worked for me to

[1:47:35] get home.

[1:47:37] So what type of information are

[1:47:40] we asking them to provide

[1:47:42] moving forward with a 9:00 time

[1:47:45] versus actually working with

[1:47:47] spark house, working with some

[1:47:49] of our other groups that

[1:47:50] already have successful

[1:47:53] programs where they are

[1:47:54] engaging with 3 to 500 youth.

[1:48:00] First is concerning not having

[1:48:02] the youth at the table to help

[1:48:03] identify.

[1:48:06] Which I learned evidently young

[1:48:06] people like pickleball.

[1:48:08] I thought that was for all

[1:48:08] people but evidently.

[1:48:09] as a.

[1:48:11] >> young people like as well

[1:48:12] and there's a whole.

[1:48:15] Group that's out there, I agree

[1:48:15] that we need to.

[1:48:16] Be working with the county

[1:48:16] with.

[1:48:17] Park and.

[1:48:17] >> rec.

[1:48:19] >> with access.

[1:48:21] You mentioned some of the

[1:48:23] locations where young people

[1:48:24] have gathered and they gathered

[1:48:24] at frankie's.

[1:48:27] What was the last conversation

[1:48:28] at all?

[1:48:29] If we had worked for any case

[1:48:32] as far as those passes being

[1:48:33] available, we it was mentioned

[1:48:35] that we passed out 200 passes

[1:48:37] here, 250 passes there.

[1:48:40] We said we have 3 to 500 youth

[1:48:41] that's gathering.

[1:48:43] So exactly who are those passes

[1:48:45] going to an hour to pass is

[1:48:46] going to the same you because

[1:48:47] if they're going to the youth

[1:48:49] that's through a generation

[1:48:50] nation or through our current.

[1:48:52] Program that's not the youth

[1:48:53] that's out in the community.

[1:48:56] So what is the real.

[1:48:59] Connection and interaction?

[1:49:01] I am.

[1:49:06] Really hoping that versus say

[1:49:08] that 9:00 pm is the number that

[1:49:12] we really look at expanding the

[1:49:15] programs that are led by teens

[1:49:15] .

[1:49:18] Authorities and we already have

[1:49:19] the partnerships that are doing

[1:49:19] that.

[1:49:20] Work and that.

[1:49:23] Goes beyond the ymca because as

[1:49:25] was mentioned unfortunately

[1:49:26] have closed a number of their

[1:49:27] offices.

[1:49:27] But also.

[1:49:30] >> that's a certain that's a

[1:49:32] targeted group of young people

[1:49:33] that go into the ymca.

[1:49:37] There are other groups out

[1:49:38] there that are doing amazing

[1:49:39] work on the ground.

[1:49:40] There's a two week program that

[1:49:42] happens at john smith every

[1:49:45] year that directly invites

[1:49:46] young men.

[1:49:48] Into the space.

[1:49:51] Young people should be the

[1:49:52] ones.

[1:49:52] >> that lead in this.

[1:49:53] Versus adults thinking.

[1:49:55] >> what we need young.

[1:49:56] People to have.

[1:49:58] Access to by the 9:00.

[1:49:59] Time period.

[1:50:01] To punish the majority.

[1:50:04] For the incidences.

[1:50:08] Which are real and the loss of

[1:50:08] life is very real.

[1:50:12] I don't.

[1:50:14] More enforcement.

[1:50:16] And trust the.

[1:50:19] Cameras when we have had.

[1:50:20] To have.

[1:50:22] Arrest of our own law

[1:50:22] enforcement.

[1:50:23] >> is the answer.

[1:50:25] I think it's more communication

[1:50:26] with the.

[1:50:27] Community that's being impacted

[1:50:27] .

[1:50:30] To say what.

[1:50:30] >> they.

[1:50:30] Would support.

[1:50:31] >> and what they would like to

[1:50:31] see.

[1:50:32] Thank you.

[1:50:34] Thank you.

[1:50:34] >> council member mayfield.

[1:50:36] Uh.

[1:50:37] >> mayor, I was wondering if I

[1:50:38] could just say one thing.

[1:50:39] Um, to the council member, I

[1:50:40] agree wholeheartedly with you

[1:50:41] that we should not be making

[1:50:43] these decisions alone, that we

[1:50:44] include our youth.

[1:50:45] I will share with you that

[1:50:47] earlier this year in MARCH

[1:50:47] after the incidents in birkdale

[1:50:50] ,our members of our team, our

[1:50:52] community services bureau met

[1:50:53] with teens under the safe

[1:50:55] summer charlotte initiative

[1:50:57] where we heard from youth what

[1:50:59] they wanted to get some ideas

[1:50:59] from them.

[1:51:01] They had about 15 meetings um

[1:51:02] the last one.

[1:51:03] Being in MAY.

[1:51:04] So we are trying to seek the

[1:51:05] voices of the young people.

[1:51:06] I was very impressed with a

[1:51:08] young lady who spoke tonight.

[1:51:10] I believe that that is a

[1:51:10] critical component.

[1:51:12] We do need to hear from our

[1:51:13] young people.

[1:51:14] So that would be part of what

[1:51:15] we would do with this um

[1:51:16] ordinance as well.

[1:51:17] Thank you.

[1:51:18] >> thank you.

[1:51:19] >> council member mayfield

[1:51:20] council member MR..

[1:51:21] Aries thank you.

[1:51:23] >> mayor thank you chief thank

[1:51:23] you staff.

[1:51:24] Really appreciate.

[1:51:28] Uh the effort and always the

[1:51:30] the broader goal at hand which

[1:51:32] is to keep our residents safe

[1:51:33] and to keep our are you safe?

[1:51:35] And chief, I appreciate our

[1:51:37] candid conversations.

[1:51:38] Uh, although.

[1:51:39] Different perspectives.

[1:51:40] Right.

[1:51:41] But that that is what is.

[1:51:42] This is all about to make sure

[1:51:44] we come to a comprehensive

[1:51:46] solution that works for

[1:51:47] everyone.

[1:51:47] Um.

[1:51:50] >> I had a few questions.

[1:51:52] So I noted and I did.

[1:51:53] I looked at the.

[1:51:55] Memo before the council meeting

[1:51:56] uh, tonight.

[1:51:57] I noted.

[1:51:59] Data indicating that across the

[1:52:01] different times 9 P.M. 10 P.M.

[1:52:03] 11 P.M. There is little to no

[1:52:04] net change in overall criminal

[1:52:05] .

[1:52:06] Activity involving 1617.

[1:52:07] >> year olds.

[1:52:10] If anything trending slightly

[1:52:11] lower as the night progresses,

[1:52:14] how would you expect the 9 P.M.

[1:52:14] Curfew.

[1:52:16] To change that data?

[1:52:16] >> right?

[1:52:17] We saw 30%.

[1:52:18] For 9.

[1:52:21] >> P.M., 30% for 10 P.M. And

[1:52:23] 29% for 11 P.M..

[1:52:24] What what.

[1:52:25] >> do you expect would change.

[1:52:25] With the curfew?

[1:52:26] Yes.

[1:52:27] >> I think as we educate people

[1:52:29] more as we talk about it we

[1:52:31] will see that number go down um

[1:52:33] to below what it is now 29%.

[1:52:35] It's still I feel significant

[1:52:36] because if it's my child and

[1:52:38] they're part of that 29% I

[1:52:39] would not want them victimize.

[1:52:41] So our desire our hope is the

[1:52:42] more we.

[1:52:42] Educate the.

[1:52:44] >> more we're out the more

[1:52:44] officers are.

[1:52:45] Talking to people about this

[1:52:47] curfew that that number would

[1:52:49] go down, victimization would be

[1:52:49] reduced.

[1:52:50] Thank you.

[1:52:52] Um so.

[1:52:53] When I was.

[1:52:54] Looking at the memos looking at

[1:52:55] the.

[1:52:56] Studies and I did.

[1:52:58] Just a quick chatgpt.

[1:52:59] I and.

[1:53:00] Those were the same studies.

[1:53:03] Uh, reiterated to me to but.

[1:53:05] i would love to see if there's

[1:53:05] any.

[1:53:06] More comprehensive studies out

[1:53:07] there.

[1:53:08] And particularly.

[1:53:10] Not just positive and mixed but

[1:53:11] also the negative studies.

[1:53:12] I want to get a whole picture

[1:53:13] right.

[1:53:16] I think I want to.

[1:53:18] >> I'm a data driven person.

[1:53:19] I want to see what works and I

[1:53:20] understand your concern.

[1:53:22] This is specific I.

[1:53:24] Uh um agree with my colleagues

[1:53:26] that perhaps we look at local

[1:53:27] data and see what works and

[1:53:28] what doesn't work, but.

[1:53:28] >> I.

[1:53:30] Really would like to see more

[1:53:32] studies, um, that are available

[1:53:34] out there uh, rather than those

[1:53:35] that are popular with other

[1:53:36] cities.

[1:53:37] Um.

[1:53:38] >> but while.

[1:53:39] On that topic.

[1:53:40] Well, studies suggest that

[1:53:40] curfews.

[1:53:42] Often lead to an increase in

[1:53:43] arrests.

[1:53:45] Overall crime rates largely

[1:53:47] have remained static throughout

[1:53:47] .

[1:53:49] So if overall crime doesn't

[1:53:49] drop.

[1:53:50] But juvenile.

[1:53:51] Arrests go up.

[1:53:54] Do do we think this is going to

[1:53:55] be effective.

[1:53:56] >> or proactive uh, public

[1:53:57] safety strategy?

[1:53:57] >> well, I think.

[1:53:59] When you're.

[1:54:01] Measuring success let's.

[1:54:01] Say if.

[1:54:03] >> there a pilot.

[1:54:04] Program does happen or the

[1:54:06] curfew is uh, voted upon, this

[1:54:09] council would use uh.

[1:54:11] what do you think is.

[1:54:12] The indicator of success there

[1:54:14] arrest or a drop down in crime.

[1:54:16] ?

[1:54:17] >> success for us looks in two

[1:54:19] ways one a reduction in

[1:54:19] victimization.

[1:54:22] Less juveniles being victimized

[1:54:22] .

[1:54:23] And yes less.

[1:54:24] Crime period.

[1:54:25] Um that are juveniles are

[1:54:27] creating or anybody across the

[1:54:29] city I think I've spoken

[1:54:30] repeatedly that we want to make

[1:54:31] charlotte one of the safest

[1:54:32] large cities.

[1:54:34] We want to reduce crime

[1:54:35] whatever that looks like is

[1:54:36] getting the crime numbers down.

[1:54:37] So I think it's twofold

[1:54:38] victimization and crime.

[1:54:39] Thank you.

[1:54:40] And um.

[1:54:42] To two more sorry mayor I know

[1:54:44] you said 2 or 3 minutes.

[1:54:44] Uh.

[1:54:45] >> but.

[1:54:45] You're close.

[1:54:46] Greg got it.

[1:54:47] Thank you.

[1:54:47] >> with the current.

[1:54:49] Proposal creating uniform

[1:54:49] rules.

[1:54:51] I saw, uh.

[1:54:52] And the statues.

[1:54:53] Our ordinance, our current

[1:54:54] ordinances with when it comes

[1:54:55] to the.

[1:54:57] Exception groups.

[1:54:59] There is still h tier

[1:54:59] interpretations there.

[1:55:01] So I think.

[1:55:03] We might have to revise that if

[1:55:05] this council so decides to.

[1:55:06] Do this curfew.

[1:55:08] Because right now one of them

[1:55:10] was like the errands running

[1:55:10] errands.

[1:55:10] Yes.

[1:55:12] >> yeah there's a certain.

[1:55:12] Curfew for a.

[1:55:14] 13 year olds for running

[1:55:15] errands and then there's a

[1:55:17] certain curfew for 17 under.

[1:55:19] So if if um.

[1:55:20] I just want.

[1:55:21] >> to make sure that we're

[1:55:21] consistent.

[1:55:21] Right.

[1:55:23] If it's, uh, blanket curfew for

[1:55:23] .

[1:55:25] 17 under completely.

[1:55:27] >> that it also would apply to

[1:55:27] those.

[1:55:28] Exceptions as well.

[1:55:29] Sure.

[1:55:30] >> um and then my.

[1:55:31] Last question would be.

[1:55:33] Uh.

[1:55:33] >> how much.

[1:55:35] Conversation has been had with

[1:55:37] center city partners as we've.

[1:55:38] Seen they've they've taken.

[1:55:39] Um, an approach when it.

[1:55:40] Comes to food.

[1:55:41] Trucks.

[1:55:42] >> uh, which I certainly

[1:55:43] disagree with.

[1:55:44] But given.

[1:55:46] That a lot of this activity is

[1:55:48] happening and their footprint

[1:55:49] according to the memo that we

[1:55:49] just.

[1:55:50] Write not to say.

[1:55:51] That it's.

[1:55:52] >> not immune.

[1:55:53] To just that area.

[1:55:54] Um.

[1:55:56] >> I would like to see what

[1:55:56] what.

[1:55:58] Prevents business districts or

[1:55:59] private public partnerships

[1:56:01] from sharing that load or

[1:56:02] enforcing localized safety in

[1:56:03] that way.

[1:56:04] I think we had that interest

[1:56:06] there already have been spoken

[1:56:07] to center city partners

[1:56:08] specifically about it, but

[1:56:08] we've had.

[1:56:09] Conversations with other.

[1:56:10] Partners like bank.

[1:56:10] >> of.

[1:56:12] America fifth third bank.

[1:56:12] Who want.

[1:56:14] To who have asked me

[1:56:15] specifically how can they help

[1:56:16] and what kind of youth programs

[1:56:18] can they provide or.

[1:56:19] Support towards?

[1:56:20] We have it in the.

[1:56:21] Private sector.

[1:56:22] Thank you chief.

[1:56:24] And the last thing is I mean I.

[1:56:25] >> have my 18 year old sister

[1:56:26] here who wanted me to.

[1:56:26] >> ask.

[1:56:26] The.

[1:56:27] Question but.

[1:56:28] If she gets stopped by an

[1:56:29] officer.

[1:56:30] How are they going to.

[1:56:31] Believe that.

[1:56:31] >> she was at work?

[1:56:32] Right?

[1:56:32] She works at a tennis.

[1:56:33] Court.

[1:56:34] >> not volleyball courts at 9

[1:56:37] P.M. Until nine 930 10 P.M. Um

[1:56:38] kids are getting misjudged.

[1:56:40] For being part of these teen.

[1:56:42] Teen um takeovers.

[1:56:43] How are.

[1:56:44] How is.

[1:56:45] Cmpd going to.

[1:56:46] Promise that they're not

[1:56:47] misjudged for being on the road

[1:56:47] after work?

[1:56:50] So I think we approach it the

[1:56:51] same way we do with any other

[1:56:52] interaction we have with the

[1:56:53] public.

[1:56:54] We can do a voluntary contact

[1:56:55] where we go up to the person,

[1:56:58] talk to them um and then just

[1:56:59] try to determine ascertain what

[1:57:01] their age is and also to you

[1:57:02] know, call their parents

[1:57:03] whatever the case MAY be.

[1:57:05] um, if we cannot determine the

[1:57:06] person's age then we can't

[1:57:07] violate them, right?

[1:57:08] We cannot say that they're in

[1:57:09] violation of the youth

[1:57:09] ordinance.

[1:57:10] We do our best to try to.

[1:57:12] Determine that information and

[1:57:14] quite naturally if a youth is

[1:57:15] telling us they just got off

[1:57:17] work and we look in the car, we

[1:57:18] see that they have an apron

[1:57:20] maybe come in from work and

[1:57:21] they say I'm going home.

[1:57:22] Our officers are very

[1:57:23] reasonable.

[1:57:24] We have that discretion to be

[1:57:25] able to say okay, this person

[1:57:27] is doing something meaningful.

[1:57:28] They're not out getting in

[1:57:30] trouble and that they're headed

[1:57:30] home.

[1:57:32] We're not again, I don't think

[1:57:33] I can say it enough that we are

[1:57:36] not going after.

[1:57:38] Youth who are doing the right

[1:57:38] thing.

[1:57:39] We are trying.

[1:57:40] >> to reduce victimization.

[1:57:40] We are.

[1:57:41] >> trying to reduce crime

[1:57:42] across.

[1:57:43] The board.

[1:57:44] >> so we will take every

[1:57:45] measure we can do.

[1:57:46] To do.

[1:57:46] >> that and.

[1:57:48] >> educating um our team I

[1:57:49] think is really important to

[1:57:49] make sure.

[1:57:50] >> that that happens.

[1:57:51] Thank you chief.

[1:57:52] And last thing manager I saw

[1:57:54] that map of youth opportunities

[1:57:55] COUNCILMAN Gap in district.

[1:57:57] Five so we should talk about

[1:57:57] that.

[1:57:57] Thank you.

[1:57:58] And I think obviously if there

[1:57:59] were additional.

[1:58:00] questions chief I assume you

[1:58:02] would take questions that are

[1:58:03] made offline.

[1:58:05] Um, to just go in, you know,

[1:58:05] in.

[1:58:06] Writing or not.

[1:58:08] Council member johnson.

[1:58:09] Thank you.

[1:58:11] >> um, MR. Jones.

[1:58:11] >> or.

[1:58:12] Council member MAY I'd like to

[1:58:14] get a hard copy of that math.

[1:58:14] >> that.

[1:58:15] We great.

[1:58:15] Thank you.

[1:58:17] Um.

[1:58:18] >> chief, thank you for your.

[1:58:19] Presentation and thank you for

[1:58:22] the intent to reduce violence

[1:58:24] and and stop the teen takeovers

[1:58:24] .

[1:58:25] .

[1:58:25] >> since we've.

[1:58:27] >> been talking about this, has

[1:58:29] there been any reduction in the

[1:58:30] teen takeovers?

[1:58:31] Yes, ma'am.

[1:58:34] We have had a reported 40 teen

[1:58:35] takeovers.

[1:58:37] Um, and seven of those were I'm

[1:58:38] sorry, three of them we were

[1:58:40] able to prevent to get ahead of

[1:58:42] and so we are starting to see

[1:58:43] where that number is going

[1:58:43] down.

[1:58:44] I think the word is getting

[1:58:44] out.

[1:58:47] I think parents are hearing

[1:58:48] what we are talking about and

[1:58:49] they are encouraging their

[1:58:50] young people not to be in.

[1:58:51] >> those.

[1:58:52] Places or they're making sure

[1:58:53] that they're not part of teen

[1:58:54] takeovers.

[1:58:55] Okay.

[1:58:56] >> so there has been a

[1:58:58] reduction in the point of this

[1:59:01] curfew is to reduce those teen

[1:59:02] takeovers, right?

[1:59:03] yes, ma'am.

[1:59:04] It's been a reduction since we

[1:59:05] have been talking.

[1:59:05] >> about it.

[1:59:06] >> right.

[1:59:06] Thank you.

[1:59:07] >> um.

[1:59:08] >> is curfew.

[1:59:10] Violation probable.

[1:59:12] Cause for a traffic stop?

[1:59:13] Um.

[1:59:17] >> thank you.

[1:59:18] >> councilmember johnson.

[1:59:19] And so in order for an officer.

[1:59:20] >> to.

[1:59:21] Conduct a traffic stop, they

[1:59:22] would have to have reasonable

[1:59:22] suspicion.

[1:59:24] Um, that means reasonable,

[1:59:26] articulable and specific facts

[1:59:27] along with the inferences from

[1:59:29] those facts that a crime has or

[1:59:31] is about to be committed.

[1:59:33] And so in order to determine

[1:59:34] whether or not they are facts

[1:59:35] that the curfew is about to be

[1:59:37] violated, the officers, for

[1:59:39] example, would have to see a

[1:59:43] juvenile out and try to make a

[1:59:45] visible um assessment of their

[1:59:47] age and if that child were to

[1:59:48] appear to be less than for

[1:59:51] example the change to 17 if

[1:59:52] they appear to be a minor, that

[1:59:54] would be reasonable suspicion

[1:59:55] for an officer to pull that car

[1:59:56] over.

[1:59:59] Okay.

[2:00:00] Thank you.

[2:00:02] Um.

[2:00:08] Kind of off topic and is the.

[2:00:09] Smell of.

[2:00:10] Marijuana.

[2:00:11] >> still probable.

[2:00:13] Cause there's for, uh, even if

[2:00:16] it's legal, cbd is still

[2:00:16] probable cause to search the

[2:00:17] car.

[2:00:18] Yes.

[2:00:19] >> okay.

[2:00:19] >> the sight.

[2:00:20] And order of marijuana is still

[2:00:22] probable cause to search and

[2:00:23] there was new case law.

[2:00:25] Forgive me for not recalling

[2:00:26] that name right now, but there

[2:00:28] was a case as recently as last

[2:00:30] winter that.

[2:00:30] >> the north carolina.

[2:00:31] Court of appeals affirmed that

[2:00:33] sight or odor of marijuana is

[2:00:33] probable cause.

[2:00:34] >> to.

[2:00:35] Search even with the existing

[2:00:36] is existence.

[2:00:40] Excuse me of legal cbd and hemp

[2:00:40] products.

[2:00:40] Okay.

[2:00:41] All right.

[2:00:41] That's a hope.

[2:00:42] You all know.

[2:00:42] >> okay.

[2:00:43] All right.

[2:00:45] Um, next.

[2:00:45] Um.

[2:00:47] >> we.

[2:00:51] >> um I.

[2:00:52] >> would agree with the pilot.

[2:00:55] I'd like to see us taking more

[2:00:56] action.

[2:00:57] I spoke to someone today.

[2:00:58] Thank you, doctor stewart.

[2:00:59] >> for the work you're doing.

[2:01:00] I thought I spoke to a

[2:01:01] community.

[2:01:02] Partner.

[2:01:03] >> um, who's.

[2:01:03] >> going to.

[2:01:05] I think be running the schools

[2:01:07] out charlotte program.

[2:01:10] And so I think we need more

[2:01:10] programs.

[2:01:11] Like that.

[2:01:12] >> I'd like to see this going

[2:01:14] to the intergovernmental

[2:01:15] committee so we can bring

[2:01:18] county partners cms, uh

[2:01:19] partners to the table perhaps

[2:01:21] putting a date of birth on this

[2:01:21] .

[2:01:21] uh.

[2:01:24] >> children's id and then we

[2:01:26] can look at um, more graduated

[2:01:29] uh, curfew if we needed to um,

[2:01:31] another thing a youth summit

[2:01:31] council.

[2:01:32] >> member.

[2:01:33] Brown we know that she had a

[2:01:34] great youth summit.

[2:01:35] I think this would be a great

[2:01:36] time for us to bring youth.

[2:01:37] Together and.

[2:01:40] Maybe, uh, doctor stewart's

[2:01:41] department manage something

[2:01:42] like.

[2:01:42] >> that or.

[2:01:43] Okay, good.

[2:01:45] Already in the works.

[2:01:45] Good.

[2:01:46] Yeah.

[2:01:46] We need some.

[2:01:47] We need that right now.

[2:01:48] Thank you.

[2:01:49] It was a youth who spoke today.

[2:01:51] She she'd be great as well.

[2:01:55] Um, yeah, I'd like to see a a

[2:01:57] pilot program.

[2:02:00] Before we implement the curfew

[2:02:00] .

[2:02:02] Um, let's look at partnership.

[2:02:03] More partnership grants.

[2:02:04] Um.

[2:02:06] Intergovernmental committee.

[2:02:07] Um more.

[2:02:08] Opportunities.

[2:02:08] >> um.

[2:02:11] For third spaces, a youth

[2:02:14] summit and bringing youth on.

[2:02:15] Board perhaps.

[2:02:18] To volunteer to to uh look at

[2:02:20] social media because we know we

[2:02:22] don't want this to impact the

[2:02:23] students who are trying to work

[2:02:25] and date and do normal.

[2:02:25] Teenage stuff.

[2:02:26] I think that.

[2:02:27] They would be on.

[2:02:28] Board in helping.

[2:02:29] >> us.

[2:02:29] So they.

[2:02:30] >> could.

[2:02:30] Get involved.

[2:02:31] >> through that youth summit

[2:02:33] through volunteering and

[2:02:35] reporting where these teen

[2:02:36] takeovers are being held.

[2:02:37] You know, they could we could

[2:02:37] have a.

[2:02:41] Hip hop hotline or tip website

[2:02:42] or something.

[2:02:42] >> like that.

[2:02:42] I think.

[2:02:44] This is the time to engage the

[2:02:45] youth.

[2:02:46] And really help us.

[2:02:47] We have.

[2:02:49] Heard that just talking about

[2:02:50] this and addressing this the

[2:02:53] teen takeovers are already

[2:02:53] reduced.

[2:02:55] So I think more.

[2:02:57] Outreach and engagement with

[2:02:59] the community um is our

[2:02:59] solution.

[2:03:02] Um uh through a pilot program

[2:03:03] and then let's revisit after

[2:03:06] there's been some uh we

[2:03:06] established baseline data.

[2:03:07] Before the.

[2:03:10] Pilot and perhaps report back

[2:03:11] after six months on.

[2:03:14] Juvenile violent incidents,

[2:03:16] arrest teen takeover events.

[2:03:19] Repeat offenses and um, just

[2:03:20] overall activity.

[2:03:20] Thank you.

[2:03:22] That's all I have.

[2:03:22] >> thank you.

[2:03:23] Council member johnson, council

[2:03:23] .

[2:03:24] >> member graham.

[2:03:25] And then council member driggs.

[2:03:27] Uh, thank you, MR. Mayor.

[2:03:29] Uh, I didn't have a 9 P.M.

[2:03:29] Curfew.

[2:03:30] I had two street.

[2:03:31] >> lights.

[2:03:31] .

[2:03:32] >> right.

[2:03:33] Um.

[2:03:34] >> I will be on the tennis

[2:03:36] court and I'll be riding that

[2:03:37] bike as fast as I can.

[2:03:40] To get home because I know if I

[2:03:41] didn't make it there was

[2:03:43] accountability at the end of

[2:03:44] that ride.

[2:03:46] And so I want to thank you for

[2:03:48] your leadership in bringing

[2:03:49] this forward.

[2:03:52] Uh, this is a part of a crime

[2:03:54] reduction strategy.

[2:03:56] Big picture going back council

[2:03:58] member wally tim and you met

[2:04:00] two years ago in my basement

[2:04:03] and there was a shooting on new

[2:04:03] year's eve.

[2:04:03] Right.

[2:04:06] And we've been looking at a

[2:04:08] wide variety of ordinance to

[2:04:11] update, to enhance, to ensure

[2:04:13] that we are doing everything

[2:04:15] possible to curb crime.

[2:04:17] And this is yet just another

[2:04:19] example for the record there's

[2:04:20] already the youth or um

[2:04:21] ordinance.

[2:04:21] Right?

[2:04:22] I think we should say that this

[2:04:23] is nothing new.

[2:04:26] We're just amending it to

[2:04:26] reflect current environment.

[2:04:28] Uh what's happening on the

[2:04:30] ground I think um I agree with

[2:04:32] my colleagues that it should be

[2:04:35] a pilot program narrowly

[2:04:38] tailored youth led.

[2:04:38] Right.

[2:04:39] Uh, and then secondly, there

[2:04:42] are a wide variety of

[2:04:43] organizations in the community

[2:04:44] that see shine kennedy up there

[2:04:47] does a great job bringing 300

[2:04:48] kids together.

[2:04:51] Um, cambridge is doing this

[2:04:53] charlotte so 1st SEPTEMBER

[2:04:54] fifth family oriented for the

[2:04:57] youth mothers fathers grandma

[2:04:59] moms grandfather all coming

[2:05:01] together a safe environment

[2:05:02] great activity.

[2:05:04] Uh, I'm doing the tennis camp

[2:05:07] for 80 kids SEPTEMBER 12th.

[2:05:09] So there's a lot of people in

[2:05:11] this community love to work.

[2:05:11] With you.

[2:05:12] >> doctor stewart, to ensure

[2:05:15] that there's balance between

[2:05:18] the ordinance narrowly tailored

[2:05:18] uh.

[2:05:20] Youth led.

[2:05:23] Um pilot program which is again

[2:05:27] pilot your work is ongoing and

[2:05:29] it can't be done when there's

[2:05:31] an issue on the table it has to

[2:05:33] be done when no one's looking

[2:05:35] in terms of being very

[2:05:36] intentional about working with

[2:05:38] our youth, we solve the problem

[2:05:39] about proximity.

[2:05:42] We have a school in every

[2:05:44] district in the city and the

[2:05:46] county middle schools, high

[2:05:48] schools on weekends when the

[2:05:49] football season is over the

[2:05:51] gyms are empty, the fields are

[2:05:53] empty, the track is empty year

[2:05:53] round.

[2:05:56] There has to be a way for us to

[2:05:59] rally around this community.

[2:06:01] Getting the resources necessary

[2:06:03] to do proper program throughout

[2:06:05] the year for our.

[2:06:07] Kids, right?

[2:06:09] >> and so we can't do it when

[2:06:11] there's a shooting or a

[2:06:11] stabbing.

[2:06:13] We can't do it when there's a

[2:06:13] teen take over.

[2:06:15] We got to do it because it's

[2:06:16] the right thing to do.

[2:06:19] And so I just encourage us to

[2:06:19] move.

[2:06:19] Forward.

[2:06:22] >> uh, parallel with working

[2:06:25] with doctor steward to ensure

[2:06:26] that we're doing everything

[2:06:29] that we can to include others

[2:06:30] churches, nonprofits, to

[2:06:32] schools, uh, mecklenburg county

[2:06:33] because they have parking.

[2:06:34] Rec we have.

[2:06:35] Rec centers.

[2:06:35] Right.

[2:06:37] But more importantly, boy,

[2:06:38] there's schools throughout the

[2:06:40] county high school, middle

[2:06:40] school.

[2:06:42] That's on weekends.

[2:06:43] Are you know.

[2:06:45] Thank you.

[2:06:46] >> thank you.

[2:06:47] >> council member graham

[2:06:48] council member driggs.

[2:06:49] You're the final.

[2:06:51] Discussant.

[2:06:52] Caboose.

[2:06:55] Uh, chief, um, takeovers.

[2:06:56] Are a problem.

[2:06:57] >> we asked you to do something

[2:06:58] about it.

[2:06:59] You're proposing this?

[2:07:01] I think our strong inclination

[2:07:02] should be to back you up.

[2:07:03] You're the expert in these

[2:07:04] matters.

[2:07:04] Uh.

[2:07:06] >> we are making you

[2:07:07] responsible for success.

[2:07:08] So, uh.

[2:07:11] I will certainly, uh, want to

[2:07:13] see us proceed with a curfew.

[2:07:14] Um.

[2:07:18] >> I will say that, uh, some of

[2:07:18] this comes down to how you

[2:07:19] imagine it's going to.

[2:07:20] Work and.

[2:07:23] I believe that some people are

[2:07:25] painting a criminal eyes and

[2:07:26] they're they're painting.

[2:07:27] >> uh, a really.

[2:07:30] Difficult picture in practice.

[2:07:32] What I imagine happens here is

[2:07:33] that young people.

[2:07:34] Kind of go.

[2:07:35] >> about their business.

[2:07:37] They probably fall under said

[2:07:38] these exceptions, uh, they're

[2:07:41] not going to be accosted and

[2:07:42] stopped on the street because

[2:07:44] they will be kind of presumed

[2:07:46] to be out, uh, legitimately.

[2:07:48] You can't judge a person's age

[2:07:49] just by looking at them.

[2:07:51] And so not only do you not have

[2:07:52] the resources, I just don't

[2:07:54] think it's your intent to go

[2:07:55] around and challenge.

[2:07:56] >> every individual.

[2:07:58] And I'm willing personally.

[2:07:59] >> to trust that.

[2:08:00] So uh.

[2:08:03] That means that uh on.

[2:08:05] The other hand, when you see

[2:08:07] something that your officers

[2:08:08] recognize as being something

[2:08:10] dangerous that could be taking

[2:08:11] shape and they want to go up

[2:08:13] and do something about it,

[2:08:14] they've got they can't just

[2:08:16] walk up to those kids and say

[2:08:18] guys, you know, please go home

[2:08:20] and the kids just stick their

[2:08:20] tongue out right?

[2:08:23] And so I envision this as a way

[2:08:25] of the officers if necessary.

[2:08:26] Uh.

[2:08:29] >> requiring somebody who isn't

[2:08:31] cooperative uh, versus the

[2:08:32] ordinance to go home.

[2:08:33] Or to leave.

[2:08:37] And then uh, so that's kind of

[2:08:39] a question of how you expect

[2:08:39] that.

[2:08:40] Will work.

[2:08:42] And uh, I have thought also

[2:08:43] about the pilot idea.

[2:08:45] Uh.

[2:08:46] >> and I agree that something

[2:08:47] like that needs to happen.

[2:08:50] My only issue about a pilot as

[2:08:51] you think about this is how

[2:08:52] long right?

[2:08:54] So if you realize that over the

[2:08:56] span of a year there's a cycle,

[2:08:58] right, that there are different

[2:08:59] conditions in the different

[2:08:59] seasons.

[2:09:02] Uh, so do you do a pilot for a

[2:09:04] year that sounds like a long

[2:09:06] time or do you do a pilot for

[2:09:06] six months?

[2:09:07] Not sure.

[2:09:10] So uh, one possibility I

[2:09:11] thought of is we go ahead.

[2:09:13] We implement.

[2:09:16] This curfew and then we just

[2:09:20] get ongoing reports ongoing.

[2:09:22] We we listen for complaints or

[2:09:25] for for feedback from the

[2:09:27] community at any time we can

[2:09:27] change it.

[2:09:29] This council has the authority

[2:09:30] at any time if.

[2:09:31] >> we don't like the way.

[2:09:32] It's going to just change it.

[2:09:35] So it MAY not be that the pilot

[2:09:35] is busy.

[2:09:37] I'm not at all opposed to it.

[2:09:38] I'm just saying in practice I

[2:09:40] wonder if we should just start

[2:09:42] down this road and uh and sort

[2:09:44] of see how we go.

[2:09:47] Uh, and I do think that we can

[2:09:48] get the kind of information

[2:09:49] that is suggested from you.

[2:09:51] We can hear about how many

[2:09:53] instances there have been uh or

[2:09:55] uh how many of these takeovers

[2:09:55] were averted.

[2:09:56] Is it working?

[2:09:58] Uh, the problem with data is

[2:10:00] this is not very scientific.

[2:10:02] I think the data from another

[2:10:02] community is a.

[2:10:04] Different mix, uh, and

[2:10:05] different circumstances and at

[2:10:07] a different time before

[2:10:10] takeovers became vogue uh, is

[2:10:11] is not going to be a good

[2:10:13] guidepost was the best

[2:10:14] guidepost for us is what

[2:10:17] happens uh, as we start here

[2:10:18] uh, and you know, if there's a

[2:10:20] backlash immediately and we get

[2:10:21] a whole lot of reports of kids

[2:10:22] saying oh my GOD, you know, uh

[2:10:24] ,I was I was in handcuffs

[2:10:26] because I'm 16, you know, I'm

[2:10:27] sure that would cause a lot of

[2:10:28] us to think again.

[2:10:32] So, uh, please keep working on

[2:10:32] this.

[2:10:33] I look forward to how you

[2:10:34] process what you heard tonight

[2:10:34] .

[2:10:36] Uh, I just want you to know

[2:10:37] that I do support, uh, what

[2:10:38] you're doing and the idea of a

[2:10:39] curfew.

[2:10:39] Thank you.

[2:10:40] Thank you, council member

[2:10:41] driggs.

[2:10:42] Chief patterson, do you have

[2:10:43] any other comments?

[2:10:44] And then I don't want to invite

[2:10:45] any other discussion because I

[2:10:46] think everyone who has asked to

[2:10:47] be heard has been heard.

[2:10:48] We want to make sure there's no

[2:10:50] other business from council but

[2:10:51] chief, do you have any other

[2:10:51] comments?

[2:10:51] >> I would.

[2:10:52] Just close by saying that.

[2:10:53] >> I've.

[2:10:54] Listened to everything that

[2:10:55] council members have stated.

[2:10:57] Um thank you so much for your

[2:10:57] input.

[2:10:59] Um, at this time if if it's

[2:11:00] agreeable to you we'd like to

[2:11:02] explore the specific provisions

[2:11:02] of.

[2:11:02] >> a.

[2:11:03] Pilot and.

[2:11:04] Also talk.

[2:11:04] >> about.

[2:11:05] The partnerships that would

[2:11:07] become as a result of it.

[2:11:09] So if that is okay with the

[2:11:10] council to proceed in that

[2:11:11] manner we would like to do

[2:11:11] that.

[2:11:11] Yes.

[2:11:14] >> anything from council okay.

[2:11:15] Thank you.

[2:11:17] >> yeah fine.

[2:11:20] Question whether you want to

[2:11:21] move forward with the pilot is

[2:11:22] that moving forward with this

[2:11:24] 9:00 time or we're saying

[2:11:25] separate we're moving forward

[2:11:28] with the pilot first to start

[2:11:29] that conversation.

[2:11:31] Are you interpreting the yes

[2:11:33] from this council as changing

[2:11:36] the current 11 P.M. Curfew time

[2:11:38] down to 9 P.M.?

[2:11:38] Yes.

[2:11:40] >> I'm interpreting that we

[2:11:42] move forward with a 9 P.M. So

[2:11:44] that we can gather data on a 9

[2:11:44] P.M. Curfew.

[2:11:45] Then I am a no.

[2:11:47] I am fine with us moving with

[2:11:49] the pilot I am not supporting

[2:11:52] under any circumstance us

[2:11:54] moving that time down to 9 P.M.

[2:11:56] As we're going back into the

[2:11:57] school time because a lot of

[2:11:58] what we have seen.

[2:12:00] Has happened over the summer

[2:12:03] not during the school period.

[2:12:05] So to even move forward with it

[2:12:06] it is concerning.

[2:12:07] So we do.

[2:12:08] Not have an action.

[2:12:10] Item tonight as I understand

[2:12:10] it.

[2:12:12] Chief, you will make the.

[2:12:13] Suggestions that you've made

[2:12:14] just now.

[2:12:15] You'll make those proposed

[2:12:15] changes.

[2:12:18] It will come back to us for an

[2:12:20] action item at that point

[2:12:20] there.

[2:12:21] >> will presumably be a vote on

[2:12:22] a motion.

[2:12:22] So I.

[2:12:25] Think we are finished in chief

[2:12:25] .

[2:12:26] Um, is there anything new?

[2:12:27] Thank you.

[2:12:28] >> just would you like to.

[2:12:29] >> I don't think she's alone in

[2:12:30] her interpretation.

[2:12:32] But I think we've got a time

[2:12:33] for a motion on that.

[2:12:34] >> and a.

[2:12:36] >> time for an action item

[2:12:36] there.

[2:12:36] With mayor.

[2:12:37] >> we're not talking about a

[2:12:38] motion.

[2:12:40] What the chief just asked for

[2:12:41] is a nod from this council for

[2:12:43] her to continue down this path

[2:12:44] that she started on.

[2:12:47] What I am sharing is the

[2:12:48] concern that I have is the path

[2:12:49] that she has.

[2:12:52] Chosen is a dual path of both

[2:12:54] adding to 9 P.M..

[2:12:56] And looking at a pallet that

[2:12:56] is.

[2:12:59] We've heard multiple variations

[2:13:00] of that conversation.

[2:13:02] So in order to be clear since

[2:13:04] it is the manager's

[2:13:06] responsibility to implement.

[2:13:07] Council's.

[2:13:11] >> objective through staff.

[2:13:13] I am not saying.

[2:13:13] >> that.

[2:13:14] I am signing off of this staff

[2:13:14] .

[2:13:17] Member to institute a 9.

[2:13:18] >> P.M..

[2:13:19] She can't she she's.

[2:13:22] One that is what I I just ask

[2:13:23] for the clarification of if

[2:13:23] your.

[2:13:26] Interpretation is to move

[2:13:26] forward with both.

[2:13:28] 9:00 and a pallet.

[2:13:29] .

[2:13:29] >> there is no.

[2:13:31] Action from this council

[2:13:32] tonight based on what's before

[2:13:32] us.

[2:13:33] Now there.

[2:13:35] Presumably will be.

[2:13:36] Something further that's

[2:13:37] presented to us.

[2:13:38] Perhaps at that point.

[2:13:39] >> there will be a motion and

[2:13:40] then there'll be a discussion.

[2:13:41] Of that if there's.

[2:13:42] a second.

[2:13:43] So I think for tonight what

[2:13:44] we've had is an information.

[2:13:47] Session and I presume the

[2:13:48] chief.

[2:13:48] >> will come.

[2:13:49] Back to us.

[2:13:50] Uh, and.

[2:13:51] Propose some type.

[2:13:52] >> of motion that will take up

[2:13:53] at that point and we'll have a

[2:13:55] full discussion of the merits

[2:13:56] of that item.

[2:13:57] Yes, sir.

[2:14:00] Okay with that thank you chief,

[2:14:01] I appreciate we.

[2:14:03] Appreciate your presentation

[2:14:05] and that takes us to uh

[2:14:05] anything else.

[2:14:06] >> from the manager.

[2:14:07] All right.

[2:14:09] Our next policy item is

[2:14:10] amendments to the charlotte

[2:14:11] streets map and charlotte

[2:14:13] streets manual for item seven.

[2:14:14] Is there a motion for.

[2:14:15] Approval a and.

[2:14:16] B second.

[2:14:18] Is there any discussion.

[2:14:18] ?

[2:14:19] All right.

[2:14:21] All in favor of approving the

[2:14:23] motion for a and b and item

[2:14:25] seven which is amendments to

[2:14:26] the charlotte streets map and

[2:14:28] charlotte streets manual as

[2:14:30] described in that item seven

[2:14:32] please raise your hand any

[2:14:33] opposed.

[2:14:34] All right.

[2:14:35] >> there's one opposed.

[2:14:38] Oh all right that takes us to

[2:14:41] the other policy item which is

[2:14:43] um our next item is parking on

[2:14:43] sidewalk ordinance.

[2:14:45] Amendment for item eight.

[2:14:47] Do I have a motion to adopt an

[2:14:48] ordinance approving an

[2:14:51] amendment to chapter 14 article

[2:14:54] four, section 14 dash 130 of

[2:14:56] the city code as recommended by

[2:14:58] the budget, governance and

[2:14:59] intergovernmental relations

[2:14:59] committee.

[2:15:01] Is there a.

[2:15:02] >> motion so moved?

[2:15:02] Second.

[2:15:05] >> any discussion council

[2:15:06] member mayfield and then

[2:15:06] council.

[2:15:06] Member johnson.

[2:15:08] Thank you MR. Mayor.

[2:15:08] >> I have.

[2:15:08] >> a.

[2:15:09] Question for staff.

[2:15:10] I want to get.

[2:15:11] Clarification on.

[2:15:12] This sidewalk as.

[2:15:13] Far is.

[2:15:16] Where does the policy language

[2:15:19] land when it comes to these

[2:15:21] scooters and these other forms

[2:15:23] of transportation that are

[2:15:25] currently blocking sidewalks?

[2:15:27] And if there is a bike lane

[2:15:28] you're starting to see them

[2:15:30] show up in the bike lanes as

[2:15:30] well.

[2:15:34] So exactly how does this know

[2:15:37] parking on sidewalks help in

[2:15:38] area and in community.

[2:15:40] Where sidewalks are now?

[2:15:44] See other forms of mobile

[2:15:44] transportation.

[2:15:46] Uh thank you.

[2:15:47] Council member mayfield lisa.

[2:15:48] Flowers with.

[2:15:48] >> the city.

[2:15:49] >> attorney's office.

[2:15:52] So scooters and.

[2:15:55] E-bikes and uh, regular

[2:15:56] bicycles are.

[2:15:57] Allowed to park on the

[2:15:58] sidewalks.

[2:15:59] There are.

[2:16:00] Uh.

[2:16:01] >> permit requirements.

[2:16:02] For our.

[2:16:03] >> e-bike and.

[2:16:04] E-scooter providers.

[2:16:07] that require them to educate

[2:16:09] riders of where to park.

[2:16:11] Um, they're supposed to leave

[2:16:11] four.

[2:16:12] >> feet.

[2:16:14] Space for pedestrians.

[2:16:15] Um.

[2:16:18] >> we they're supposed to they

[2:16:18] get a complaint.

[2:16:20] They're supposed to, uh, remove

[2:16:22] that scooter or move it within

[2:16:23] an hour.

[2:16:23] Uh.

[2:16:26] >> we also have provisions that

[2:16:26] allows the.

[2:16:30] Director of transportation to

[2:16:31] revoke a permit if we get lots

[2:16:33] of complaints or reduce the

[2:16:35] number of bikes and e-bikes, uh

[2:16:36] ,e-scooters that they can.

[2:16:37] Have.

[2:16:42] >> um, in the right of way the

[2:16:44] there is that so the scooters

[2:16:47] and bikes can park and can ride

[2:16:47] on the sidewalks.

[2:16:52] This just addresses the

[2:16:54] driveways and and impeding the

[2:16:56] sidewalk at driveways where

[2:16:58] vehicles cannot block the the

[2:16:59] drive the sidewalk.

[2:17:01] So we're really looking at

[2:17:04] mainly residential area and I

[2:17:07] had mentioned previously that

[2:17:11] we are building smaller units

[2:17:13] and also shorter driveways but

[2:17:15] we're also allowing development

[2:17:17] happening on much more narrow

[2:17:18] streets.

[2:17:21] So there's no on street parking

[2:17:21] .

[2:17:24] The driveway itself is a short

[2:17:26] driveway so part of the vehicle

[2:17:29] MAY be blocking the sidewalk.

[2:17:33] So I want I'm thinking of the

[2:17:35] individual that's in the

[2:17:35] motorized wheelchair.

[2:17:39] Uh and when they're trying to

[2:17:42] get exercise go out to the um

[2:17:45] community how that's actually

[2:17:47] going to be enforced with the

[2:17:48] number of neighborhoods that we

[2:17:50] have and the number of

[2:17:50] neighborhoods that we keep.

[2:17:51] And pullback.

[2:17:55] How effective this is going to

[2:17:57] be when our policy language has

[2:18:00] created shorter driveways and

[2:18:03] vehicles are blocking the

[2:18:03] driveway.

[2:18:07] I just want to understand how.

[2:18:08] Enforcement would.

[2:18:09] >> look on that.

[2:18:12] We did look into uh driveway

[2:18:14] length so we have a minimum in

[2:18:16] the youdo for driveways.

[2:18:19] They have to be a minimum of

[2:18:22] ten feet ten feet wide and 20ft

[2:18:23] long.

[2:18:25] Um and that was done

[2:18:27] specifically to avoid the issue

[2:18:27] of of.

[2:18:32] Vehicles impeding sidewalks.

[2:18:34] Cars of course have gotten

[2:18:37] larger and so but it still will

[2:18:39] cover a full sized vehicle.

[2:18:41] Um smaller vehicles you MAY.

[2:18:42] >> be.

[2:18:46] Able to fit to most to two car

[2:18:47] garages are going to be at

[2:18:48] least.

[2:18:49] 20ft wide and the driveway is

[2:18:49] going to also.

[2:18:50] Be that.

[2:18:53] Wide so that that uh provides

[2:18:53] some more.

[2:18:56] But the bottom line is that

[2:18:58] it's an ada violation to block

[2:18:59] the sidewalk.

[2:19:00] The the issue.

[2:19:02] With the scooters and things

[2:19:03] like that it would be a

[2:19:06] separate type ordinance that if

[2:19:06] we.

[2:19:07] >> you know, we can certainly

[2:19:07] look.

[2:19:09] At making it an ordinance

[2:19:10] instead of in our permits.

[2:19:14] But right now our ordinance um

[2:19:16] provides an exception for bikes

[2:19:18] and e-scooters and e-bikes.

[2:19:20] thank you, council.

[2:19:20] Member johnson.

[2:19:22] Thank you.

[2:19:24] >> if it's an thank you for

[2:19:25] that information, if it's an

[2:19:27] ada violation that's the

[2:19:30] exception in the ordinance.

[2:19:31] Excuse the violation.

[2:19:32] .

[2:19:36] >> no no again our our permit

[2:19:39] requirements are that um they

[2:19:41] should be educating their

[2:19:42] riders.

[2:19:44] Uh, we can we can look at what

[2:19:47] they're providing on their, uh

[2:19:49] ,app to make sure that they're

[2:19:49] doing that.

[2:19:50] Uh.

[2:19:53] >> they also are to provide 24

[2:19:55] seven support.

[2:19:59] So anybody rider non rider the

[2:20:00] city can contact them when

[2:20:02] they're when they see something

[2:20:04] that's not right um either

[2:20:06] parking or somebody speeding

[2:20:08] driving recklessly that that

[2:20:09] sort of thing they can report

[2:20:09] that.

[2:20:10] Who is to the right to report.

[2:20:11] To whom.

[2:20:12] .

[2:20:14] >> well they can call 311 um

[2:20:17] but they can also call the

[2:20:19] there's provisions on the app

[2:20:22] on the I forget who it is that

[2:20:23] here who we have um.

[2:20:27] It's uh line like for instance

[2:20:28] lime they should have something

[2:20:30] on their website that provides

[2:20:34] a number for a rider or non

[2:20:36] rider to report and then in the

[2:20:38] app they also have those those

[2:20:39] provisions to.

[2:20:41] Where you can report a problem

[2:20:42] .

[2:20:42] Are you.

[2:20:43] >> talking about.

[2:20:45] >> scooters scooters and

[2:20:45] e-bikes.

[2:20:46] >> or e-bikes.

[2:20:47] no okay so.

[2:20:50] No my concern you talked about

[2:20:52] residential driveways needing

[2:20:53] to be 20ft.

[2:20:56] Um the same information from

[2:20:59] sarah hazel uh, the full size

[2:21:00] car is 16 to 18ft.

[2:21:03] So only one if the driveway is

[2:21:04] closed or if they don't um

[2:21:05] excuse me garage where they.

[2:21:06] >> don't.

[2:21:06] Have a garage.

[2:21:08] Only one full sized car can fit

[2:21:09] in that driveway.

[2:21:10] That's correct.

[2:21:13] So we just can't.

[2:21:14] >> have it both ways.

[2:21:15] We just don't get to have it

[2:21:17] both ways where we're building

[2:21:18] so much density.

[2:21:19] Shorter driveways.

[2:21:21] No parking on the street.

[2:21:25] Uh, density and then not

[2:21:25] allowing.

[2:21:27] Residents to be able.

[2:21:28] >> to park in their driveway.

[2:21:32] Without a code violation.

[2:21:33] So I won't.

[2:21:33] >> be.

[2:21:33] Supporting this for.

[2:21:34] >> that reason.

[2:21:36] You know, this is a very

[2:21:36] expensive city.

[2:21:39] Um, more than sometimes more

[2:21:41] than one person or one family

[2:21:42] live in a home.

[2:21:43] And they have cars.

[2:21:45] So I think.

[2:21:46] That I think we.

[2:21:47] Should be more focused on

[2:21:47] scooters.

[2:21:49] On the sidewalk.

[2:21:50] Um, my husband almost got hit

[2:21:51] by someone riding.

[2:21:52] >> a scooter.

[2:21:54] On the sidewalk so I think

[2:21:56] that's a priority and I get the

[2:21:57] .

[2:21:57] >> whole.

[2:21:57] Ada violation.

[2:21:59] i don't know what the solution

[2:22:00] is but I won't support.

[2:22:01] Um.

[2:22:03] >> fining individuals who.

[2:22:04] >> are.

[2:22:04] Parking in their.

[2:22:06] Driveways when we know our.

[2:22:07] >> ordinance.

[2:22:10] Uh only allows for a minimum or

[2:22:11] is.

[2:22:11] >> it maximum.

[2:22:12] Is this.

[2:22:14] >> max is a minimum minimum.

[2:22:14] And some.

[2:22:15] >> developers are only building

[2:22:16] .

[2:22:17] Minimum standards.

[2:22:17] Uh.

[2:22:18] One car.

[2:22:19] >> in the driveway.

[2:22:22] So that's my comment.

[2:22:22] Thank you.

[2:22:23] Will there.

[2:22:25] >> any other comments or

[2:22:26] questions and I would ask you

[2:22:27] to clarify one thing.

[2:22:29] You referenced the ada in there

[2:22:30] and just how does the.

[2:22:31] Americans with disabilities.

[2:22:34] Act fit into this discussion?

[2:22:34] >> because I don't know if that

[2:22:35] was clear.

[2:22:35] Right.

[2:22:37] >> so sidewalks are one of our

[2:22:38] programs, services and

[2:22:39] activities that we provide.

[2:22:40] Um.

[2:22:41] >> if we.

[2:22:41] Provide a sidewalk.

[2:22:44] We should be making sure that

[2:22:45] those sidewalks are not.

[2:22:49] Uh obstructed.

[2:22:50] And the current ordinance gave

[2:22:51] a.

[2:22:54] Uh exception for parking and

[2:22:54] driveways.

[2:22:58] So we had to to we had a

[2:23:00] disconnect between the two

[2:23:04] between 14 dash 130 and 14 dash

[2:23:08] 2016 um 14 dash 2016 deals with

[2:23:09] illegal parking.

[2:23:12] 14 dash 130 is more about

[2:23:14] operation um but it also says

[2:23:14] parking.

[2:23:19] Um so vehicles could not drive

[2:23:22] on the sidewalks or park on the

[2:23:24] sidewalks under 14 dash 130

[2:23:25] unless they were in a.

[2:23:27] Driveway which made it

[2:23:28] difficult for cmpd to.

[2:23:30] Enforce.

[2:23:32] >> council member mia yes.

[2:23:34] Uh thank you, mayor harrington

[2:23:34] .

[2:23:35] Thank you for that

[2:23:35] clarification.

[2:23:39] In terms of why this amendment

[2:23:42] I mean this ordinance needs to

[2:23:42] be amended.

[2:23:47] Um, because I have received

[2:23:49] some complaints from residents

[2:23:50] there.

[2:23:50] Um.

[2:23:52] >> either they.

[2:23:55] >> are pushing a wheelchair or

[2:23:57] are on a wheelchair or.

[2:23:58] Trying to.

[2:23:58] >> push a.

[2:24:01] Stroller but they don't have an

[2:24:02] access to safe sidewalks even.

[2:24:04] Though sidewalks are built.

[2:24:04] But they are.

[2:24:07] Obstructed by a vehicle so this

[2:24:07] .

[2:24:09] Helps us address those.

[2:24:11] Concerns, especially those with

[2:24:14] special needs and families like

[2:24:16] mine who are trying to.

[2:24:21] Not trying to make sure that we

[2:24:22] are using the infrastructure

[2:24:24] that is there without having to

[2:24:27] get outside where there might

[2:24:29] be traffic moving traffic.

[2:24:31] So I'll be supporting this.

[2:24:32] Here there.

[2:24:34] Any other questions or comments

[2:24:35] from council members who have

[2:24:35] not been hurt?

[2:24:37] All right.

[2:24:38] >> there has been a motion and

[2:24:41] a second and discussion on the

[2:24:42] uh motion to adopt an ordinance

[2:24:43] .

[2:24:43] Approving an amendment.

[2:24:44] >> to.

[2:24:45] Chapter 14.

[2:24:46] >> article four, section 14

[2:24:48] when 30 city code is

[2:24:49] recommended by the budget.

[2:24:50] Governance and.

[2:24:52] >> intergovernmental relations

[2:24:52] committee.

[2:24:53] Uh, all in favor.

[2:24:54] Please raise.

[2:24:54] >> your hand.

[2:24:56] All opposed?

[2:24:58] Okay.

[2:24:59] >> the ayes have it.

[2:24:59] It passes.

[2:25:00] Okay.

[2:25:02] We move to our business agenda.

[2:25:05] And our first business item is

[2:25:07] for the youth diversion program

[2:25:09] interlocal agreement for item

[2:25:11] nine is there a motion

[2:25:13] reflected in our um agenda a

[2:25:15] motion to adopt a resolution

[2:25:17] authorizing the city manager.

[2:25:17] Or his.

[2:25:19] >> designee to negotiate and

[2:25:22] execute a revenue inter local

[2:25:23] agreement with mecklenburg

[2:25:24] county through which the city

[2:25:26] will receive funding to support

[2:25:26] the.

[2:25:27] Youth diversion program?

[2:25:28] So moved.

[2:25:30] Again is there a discussion?

[2:25:31] Yes I do.

[2:25:32] Council member mia.

[2:25:34] Yeah this is a no brainer.

[2:25:36] Uh, the youth diversion program

[2:25:38] I mean we talked about the

[2:25:39] opportunities for our youth.

[2:25:42] Uh, what I wanted to highlight

[2:25:43] with the youth diversion

[2:25:45] program that this program has

[2:25:47] served more than 5000 young

[2:25:50] people and more than 90% have

[2:25:52] stayed out of trouble in the

[2:25:52] following year.

[2:25:54] And this is great.

[2:25:55] Uh.

[2:25:57] >> and this tells me that

[2:25:59] prevention can work.

[2:26:01] So I will be supporting this

[2:26:02] and I appreciate the work

[2:26:03] that's gone into this.

[2:26:05] Is there.

[2:26:07] >> any other discussion thank

[2:26:07] you council member.

[2:26:10] Hachimura all right we have a

[2:26:11] motion and a second we have

[2:26:12] discussion all in favor of the

[2:26:13] item the motion please raise.

[2:26:14] >> your.

[2:26:16] Hand any opposed.

[2:26:19] Alrighty councilmember johnson

[2:26:19] .

[2:26:20] >> did uh.

[2:26:20] I'm in favor in favor.

[2:26:22] Okay great.

[2:26:23] That takes us through our

[2:26:24] business agenda.

[2:26:26] Our um next item is.

[2:26:28] Appointments and tonight city

[2:26:29] council will make an

[2:26:31] appointment to the make

[2:26:32] appointments to the community

[2:26:33] relations committee.

[2:26:35] Council members voted by ballot

[2:26:36] and have submitted their

[2:26:37] ballots to the clerk.

[2:26:39] Any nominee receiving six or

[2:26:40] more votes is automatically

[2:26:42] appointed if no nominee

[2:26:44] received at least six votes, a

[2:26:45] runoff will be necessary and

[2:26:47] council will be asked to vote

[2:26:48] tonight to determine who will

[2:26:50] be appointed to the board.

[2:26:51] All appointments.

[2:26:51] Will be.

[2:26:52] Recorded in the official

[2:26:53] minutes of this meeting.

[2:26:55] MADAM Clerk, could you please

[2:26:56] announce the results of the

[2:26:56] ballot?

[2:26:57] Yes.

[2:26:58] >> so the appointments for.

[2:27:00] >> the community relations

[2:27:03] committee, um zachary clay well

[2:27:03] received uh.

[2:27:06] Six votes and alexis healing.

[2:27:08] Received eight votes.

[2:27:08] Alexis.

[2:27:09] >> good.

[2:27:10] So is there.

[2:27:13] Any further.

[2:27:14] Um.

[2:27:16] >> action required by this?

[2:27:17] >> you know.

[2:27:17] Just that.

[2:27:17] Okay.

[2:27:18] Alexis.

[2:27:20] We're all right.

[2:27:21] We had the board.

[2:27:22] Happy to.

[2:27:22] >> have us vote.

[2:27:23] Is there a motion by

[2:27:25] acclamation or otherwise?

[2:27:26] >> she made a motion.

[2:27:28] And jenny made the second.

[2:27:28] Okay.

[2:27:30] >> any further discussion?

[2:27:30] All in favor.

[2:27:31] Raise your hand.

[2:27:31] >> excuse me.

[2:27:32] I have something.

[2:27:33] Oh, yeah?

[2:27:34] Yep.

[2:27:35] >> I just wanted to bring up,

[2:27:36] um, congratulations to, uh,

[2:27:37] doctor healing.

[2:27:38] >> for her.

[2:27:39] Pending appointment.

[2:27:40] I do want.

[2:27:42] >> us to look at what it takes

[2:27:44] for city staff to be on board

[2:27:45] and commission.

[2:27:46] Certainly their residents.

[2:27:47] We want them to participate.

[2:27:48] I would not.

[2:27:49] >> want to discourage any staff

[2:27:51] member from simply.

[2:27:52] Attending these.

[2:27:53] Meetings at any time.

[2:27:55] So MR. Manager, I would love to

[2:27:56] kind of just talk about what we

[2:27:57] can do to.

[2:27:59] um to make sure that we're

[2:28:00] encouraging and enabling.

[2:28:01] That uh, certainly.

[2:28:03] Understanding that we want to

[2:28:04] create equal access with

[2:28:05] everyone.

[2:28:06] In the community.

[2:28:08] But I love.

[2:28:08] >> to see.

[2:28:09] Staff wanting.

[2:28:09] >> to.

[2:28:10] Be um.

[2:28:10] >> a part of.

[2:28:11] >> these boards, but I think

[2:28:12] there's a way that we MAY be

[2:28:12] able.

[2:28:13] >> can beef it.

[2:28:14] Up and enhance how that works.

[2:28:15] So thank you.

[2:28:16] >> sorry for inadvertently

[2:28:16] putting you on.

[2:28:17] .

[2:28:17] Any other.

[2:28:19] >> council member johnson.

[2:28:20] I agree and I sent an.

[2:28:22] Email in writing is that.

[2:28:25] Appropriate or.

[2:28:27] I think we should have a.

[2:28:29] Policy on city staff on.

[2:28:30] Uh boards.

[2:28:31] >> and commissions.

[2:28:34] Also I think that there's um

[2:28:35] opportunity for influence.

[2:28:37] And impact.

[2:28:39] So I that's just my uh and it's

[2:28:41] nothing against alexis I think

[2:28:42] she does a phenomenal job.

[2:28:43] .

[2:28:44] But the fact that she is an

[2:28:46] executive level employee I

[2:28:47] think there could be some

[2:28:49] concern from the public.

[2:28:50] So I'd like to see a policy on

[2:28:51] that as well.

[2:28:51] Thank you.

[2:28:53] Any further comments?

[2:28:54] All right.

[2:28:54] All in.

[2:28:56] >> favor of the motion.

[2:28:57] Please raise.

[2:28:57] >> your hand.

[2:28:59] Any opposed?

[2:29:00] Yeah.

[2:29:01] >> opposed or.

[2:29:02] Councilmember johnson opposed.

[2:29:05] Are you oppose opposed okay.

[2:29:07] All right that takes us.

[2:29:09] Through the appointments and

[2:29:11] that takes us to mayor and

[2:29:13] council topics um, in order to

[2:29:15] ensure that all council.

[2:29:16] Has the opportunity to speak,

[2:29:18] we will go around the dais

[2:29:18] once.

[2:29:23] We'll go around the dias once

[2:29:25] uh, one by one I ask that each

[2:29:26] council member try to keep

[2:29:28] their comments to our end for

[2:29:29] questions to three.

[2:29:30] >> minutes.

[2:29:31] But also note that we have a

[2:29:31] closed session.

[2:29:33] Scheduled for tonight so it MAY

[2:29:34] be all the more important that.

[2:29:36] We try to keep our comments to

[2:29:37] three minutes.

[2:29:39] Staff will respond to questions

[2:29:41] or topics with a written report

[2:29:43] to council prior to the next

[2:29:44] business meeting.

[2:29:46] If that report is sufficient to

[2:29:47] address the question or issue.

[2:29:48] That would ensure that our

[2:29:50] meeting time and agenda items

[2:29:52] are focused on upcoming

[2:29:53] decisions rather than just

[2:29:54] report outs.

[2:29:55] This will help ensure effective

[2:29:57] meetings and discussions should

[2:29:58] a council member feel that an

[2:30:00] action is needed or further

[2:30:01] discussion is required with the

[2:30:03] entire council, the council

[2:30:04] member would then make a

[2:30:04] request.

[2:30:05] >> to.

[2:30:05] Add the item.

[2:30:06] To a.

[2:30:07] Future strategy.

[2:30:09] Session agenda I will ask if

[2:30:10] there is any objection.

[2:30:10] >> if there are no.

[2:30:12] Objections staff.

[2:30:14] Would schedule the item for the

[2:30:15] future meeting.

[2:30:16] This approach will create a.

[2:30:17] Framework to.

[2:30:18] >> help keep meetings running

[2:30:19] smoothly.

[2:30:23] As a reminder um rule four d of

[2:30:25] the mayor and council rules and

[2:30:26] procedures provides for adding

[2:30:28] items to council meetings and

[2:30:30] not council and not committee

[2:30:31] meetings unless there are other

[2:30:32] questions.

[2:30:34] Please let's uh, get started

[2:30:35] and I'm going to go in some

[2:30:36] order and I think I'm going to

[2:30:38] go from the inside out uh, this

[2:30:40] time I'll start on this side

[2:30:42] and come to uh, mayor pro tem.

[2:30:42] Okay.

[2:30:43] Uh thank.

[2:30:44] >> you mayor and council I just

[2:30:46] have two quick and one is a

[2:30:47] thank you to.

[2:30:49] Cdot and to the city manager.

[2:30:50] We just had a very successful

[2:30:52] ribbon cutting with uh, kiosks

[2:30:54] ,digital kiosk, pilot program

[2:30:54] .

[2:30:55] We start off in district two

[2:30:58] with COUNCILMAN Graham and I

[2:30:59] would like to thank, uh, staff

[2:31:01] for working so hard.

[2:31:02] Make sure we put them in the

[2:31:02] right away.

[2:31:03] We're going to roll out a total

[2:31:06] 30 and they've been a six

[2:31:06] doors.

[2:31:08] Six corridors opportunity as

[2:31:09] well as a msd.

[2:31:12] So kudos to to you city manager

[2:31:14] and to see that secondly uh my

[2:31:16] next town hall meeting will be

[2:31:18] saturday SEPTEMBER 26th.

[2:31:20] The title of it will be forward

[2:31:22] together as we talking about

[2:31:24] how we going to empower uh sb

[2:31:26] uh businesses and city

[2:31:27] charlotte let them know we

[2:31:28] still behind them and we're

[2:31:29] going to make sure they can

[2:31:32] still be successful uh in our

[2:31:34] community starts at 11 uh 11

[2:31:36] and 12 of course is my favorite

[2:31:37] luncheon networking and we

[2:31:38] should wrap up around.

[2:31:40] 230 here at the government.

[2:31:43] Center on saturday, SEPTEMBER

[2:31:43] 26th.

[2:31:44] Thank you mayor.

[2:31:46] Thank you mayor pro tem council

[2:31:46] member owens.

[2:31:47] Thank you.

[2:31:48] >> mayor appreciate the

[2:31:49] opportunity.

[2:31:51] I have two comments one a

[2:31:52] comment of.

[2:31:52] Gratitude and.

[2:31:54] >> second of somber recognition

[2:31:54] .

[2:31:56] First the gratitude I.

[2:31:57] Want to.

[2:31:57] Um.

[2:31:59] >> lift up the city staff and

[2:31:59] community.

[2:32:00] >> partners.

[2:32:01] Um and.

[2:32:02] First responders all of.

[2:32:03] Whom have.

[2:32:05] Worked tirelessly and quickly

[2:32:06] to support cleanup efforts

[2:32:07] after the.

[2:32:08] Storms from.

[2:32:08] >> this.

[2:32:09] Past weekend.

[2:32:09] Oh.

[2:32:11] >> we had multiple trees down.

[2:32:11] >> in district six and.

[2:32:12] I'm sure that was.

[2:32:12] >> the.

[2:32:14] Story across our districts.

[2:32:16] We had uh, no fewer than 23,000

[2:32:17] outages of.

[2:32:18] Power recorded in.

[2:32:19] Mecklenburg county.

[2:32:19] We had.

[2:32:22] 88 requests for trees impacting

[2:32:22] roads.

[2:32:22] Uh.

[2:32:23] >> over the weekend.

[2:32:24] .

[2:32:25] >> uh, james burr.

[2:32:25] >> ricky.

[2:32:27] Gaither, uh michael.

[2:32:28] Cruz and director rodney

[2:32:29] jamison are all.

[2:32:30] To be commended.

[2:32:32] Uh, this is work that will be

[2:32:33] ongoing over the next several

[2:32:34] weeks to clean up the trees.

[2:32:36] I'm particularly, uh,

[2:32:37] appreciative.

[2:32:37] Uh, there.

[2:32:40] >> were many, many diversions

[2:32:42] of routes coming from uptown

[2:32:43] and I heard from a.

[2:32:44] Lot of my constituents who

[2:32:45] were.

[2:32:45] Concerned but very.

[2:32:46] Grateful to.

[2:32:48] Have immediate um, storm

[2:32:49] cleanup efforts.

[2:32:50] I'll pivot then to.

[2:32:52] A somber recognition.

[2:32:52] >> I'd like.

[2:32:53] >> to lift.

[2:32:56] Up the fact that doctor gina

[2:32:56] navarette was.

[2:32:57] Um.

[2:32:59] >> was unfortunately a victim

[2:33:01] of a fall in chile uh, last

[2:33:03] week and, uh, lost her life.

[2:33:06] Um, gina navarette ran for.

[2:33:07] District six.

[2:33:09] Back in 2019 and I lift her up

[2:33:11] in large part because I think

[2:33:12] any of us who serve the.

[2:33:13] Community deserve.

[2:33:15] Recognition but particularly

[2:33:18] folks who serve so tirelessly.

[2:33:19] Um.

[2:33:21] >> and really advocate for so

[2:33:22] much.

[2:33:23] >> of what makes charlotte.

[2:33:26] Charlotte um doctor navarette

[2:33:28] was an advocate for racial

[2:33:28] justice for.

[2:33:30] women's rights, advocated.

[2:33:32] Consistently for the underdog

[2:33:33] during covid.

[2:33:35] Was a real force of nature.

[2:33:37] And a presence out in the

[2:33:38] community letting people.

[2:33:40] Understand our mask mandate and

[2:33:41] helping hand out masks.

[2:33:44] Um, she more than just.

[2:33:45] >> running for the city.

[2:33:48] She she showed up for people

[2:33:49] um, and.

[2:33:50] Uh, was part.

[2:33:51] >> of.

[2:33:52] A small group of folks who did

[2:33:54] the first women's MARCH here.

[2:33:54] >> in charlotte.

[2:33:56] I reached out to several of her

[2:33:57] friends.

[2:33:58] I had the opportunity to see

[2:34:00] her speak on occasions.

[2:34:00] >> and then also.

[2:34:03] I had the great, um, foresight

[2:34:04] to have voted for her myself.

[2:34:05] But I.

[2:34:07] Mentioned her because I think

[2:34:07] that.

[2:34:08] Those of us.

[2:34:08] Who do.

[2:34:10] >> serve in these capacities we

[2:34:10] stand.

[2:34:11] >> on the shoulders of those

[2:34:12] who came before.

[2:34:14] Us and um, particularly in my.

[2:34:15] District where.

[2:34:17] There was a change of.

[2:34:19] Leadership um, she was one of

[2:34:19] those first.

[2:34:20] People who.

[2:34:21] >> made it feel.

[2:34:22] Possible that uh.

[2:34:23] Particularly a latina.

[2:34:25] Could could run in charlotte

[2:34:26] and I believe she MAY have.

[2:34:28] Made a path for councilmember

[2:34:28] moss.

[2:34:30] Where arias who we enjoy so

[2:34:30] much up.

[2:34:33] Here um, her friend wrote to me

[2:34:35] that, uh, gina was an

[2:34:36] inspiration and an activist

[2:34:36] community.

[2:34:38] She loved and cared for her

[2:34:40] friends and pushed for a better

[2:34:40] world.

[2:34:42] All are struggling to process.

[2:34:43] >> the sudden and

[2:34:43] heartbreaking.

[2:34:45] Loss and to accept a world

[2:34:46] without her in it.

[2:34:47] Um we.

[2:34:49] Hold her son alex.

[2:34:50] Especially close in our hearts

[2:34:50] .

[2:34:53] Uh, gina's husband died a year

[2:34:54] ago and now with gina's passing

[2:34:55] ,alex is.

[2:34:55] >> is alone.

[2:34:57] And I just would suggest that

[2:34:57] this.

[2:34:59] Community continue to love and

[2:34:59] support him.

[2:35:02] And I do, uh, I just wish.

[2:35:03] To just have a quick moment of

[2:35:03] silence.

[2:35:05] In recognition of the

[2:35:05] contributions.

[2:35:06] >> of.

[2:35:07] Doctor gina navarette.

[2:35:16] Thank you, councilmember.

[2:35:16] Owens.

[2:35:18] >> councilmember graham.

[2:35:19] >> thank you, MR. Mayor.

[2:35:21] I'd like to take this

[2:35:22] opportunity to give a shout out

[2:35:23] and and make an announcement.

[2:35:25] Uh, the shout out to steve

[2:35:27] bagwell and the men and women

[2:35:29] of the charlotte regional

[2:35:31] visitors authority for doing an

[2:35:33] outstanding job last week in

[2:35:35] hosting the um 41st annual

[2:35:35] stellar award.

[2:35:36] Um.

[2:35:42] >> the community really came

[2:35:45] out and show that out of over

[2:35:47] 14,000 tickets were sold, uh

[2:35:49] was a sellout for the event.

[2:35:52] Um, I want to thank the host

[2:35:53] committee who did a tremendous

[2:35:53] job.

[2:35:56] Each had very, uh, difficult

[2:35:59] task to do as relates to

[2:36:01] performance and talent and

[2:36:02] working with churches are

[2:36:04] getting folks there certainly

[2:36:06] want to thank all the local

[2:36:07] sponsors, mecklenburg county

[2:36:09] and others who kind of invested

[2:36:10] in the show.

[2:36:12] Um, a lot of people are asking

[2:36:13] how can I see it?

[2:36:16] Well uh it will air um AUGUST

[2:36:19] 30th at 8 P.M. On wbz-tv.

[2:36:21] They'll be doing a one hour

[2:36:23] preview show uh, of the red

[2:36:23] carpet.

[2:36:25] I think MR. Mayor, you MAY have

[2:36:26] walked that carpet.

[2:36:27] Pretty quick.

[2:36:28] Pretty quick?

[2:36:28] Yeah.

[2:36:29] Uh.

[2:36:29] >> yeah.

[2:36:31] >> I'm was quick to uh so so

[2:36:33] they'll do a pre-show at 8:00.

[2:36:35] Uh, and then the 9:00 will be

[2:36:38] the performance as well as this

[2:36:40] airing nationally on bet the

[2:36:43] same night sunday um uh the

[2:36:44] 30th at 10 P.M..

[2:36:46] So if you didn't get a chance

[2:36:48] to go to it, uh, you can watch

[2:36:49] it, um, from the comfort of

[2:36:51] your living room on AUGUST

[2:36:53] 30th, uh, on wb tv as well as

[2:36:55] bet networks.

[2:36:56] Uh, and pivoting to that uh

[2:36:58] also will be hosting a town

[2:37:00] hall meeting um, to kind of

[2:37:02] talk about the um the economic

[2:37:03] impact of travel tourism.

[2:37:05] Sports and entertainment.

[2:37:08] Uh, tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd uh,

[2:37:10] is called destination charlotte

[2:37:12] and we'll talk all things like

[2:37:14] I said earlier travel tourism,

[2:37:16] sports and entertainment a lot

[2:37:16] of great.

[2:37:18] Interest from our partners in

[2:37:19] the community.

[2:37:22] Uh crb yeah for sure.

[2:37:26] Panthers hornets um the uh

[2:37:28] atrium the politics of um uh

[2:37:31] medical tourism right with the

[2:37:32] pearl all these doctors coming

[2:37:35] for visits and uh and training

[2:37:37] all uh to charlotte's economy

[2:37:38] as it relates to travel and

[2:37:39] tourism.

[2:37:41] So if you're available uh,

[2:37:44] tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd, 6 to 8

[2:37:45] P.M. At bojangles complex.

[2:37:45] Thank you.

[2:37:46] >> thank you.

[2:37:47] Council member graham council

[2:37:48] member driggs.

[2:37:50] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[2:37:51] I just want to point out that,

[2:37:53] uh, south charlotte partners

[2:37:55] will be hosting the south

[2:37:57] charlotte transportation summit

[2:37:59] again this year and this is

[2:38:00] quite a significant event.

[2:38:04] It's attended by 150 to 200 uh

[2:38:06] elected officials, government

[2:38:08] and business leaders and

[2:38:09] members of the public.

[2:38:11] It goes far beyond just south

[2:38:11] charlotte.

[2:38:12] It's an interesting event to

[2:38:14] take stock of what's going on

[2:38:15] and what the views are of the

[2:38:17] business community on

[2:38:19] transportation that will take

[2:38:22] place uh starting at 730 on the

[2:38:23] 29th of SEPTEMBER at the piper

[2:38:25] glen country club in my

[2:38:25] district.

[2:38:25] Thank you.

[2:38:26] And thank you.

[2:38:27] >> I am.

[2:38:29] Thank you.

[2:38:30] >> council drakes.

[2:38:31] In the.

[2:38:32] >> morning council member

[2:38:32] mayfield.

[2:38:36] Yeah thank you mayor thank you.

[2:38:38] Manager I have.

[2:38:40] A question I believe a number

[2:38:43] of us have received emails

[2:38:46] regarding center city partners

[2:38:51] new food vendor, street vendor

[2:38:51] language.

[2:38:54] What I want to know is

[2:38:56] basically who gave them that

[2:38:58] authority without conversation

[2:38:59] comment though council I want

[2:39:01] to understand if that was part

[2:39:01] of.

[2:39:04] The msd and if so.

[2:39:07] Does that mean that all of.

[2:39:09] Our communities.

[2:39:10] That have.

[2:39:10] >> a msd.

[2:39:12] Whether that's university.

[2:39:13] >> or south park have they

[2:39:13] also.

[2:39:17] Have the same authority to

[2:39:21] identify cut off time because

[2:39:22] community members are reaching

[2:39:23] out to us?

[2:39:24] Um.

[2:39:26] >> I didn't necessarily have a

[2:39:27] response to it because I read

[2:39:28] about it in the news as well.

[2:39:31] So I would like to know whether

[2:39:33] any language we have signed off

[2:39:35] on that gives that authority

[2:39:35] and.

[2:39:36] If not, what.

[2:39:37] >> does that what should that

[2:39:38] process.

[2:39:39] Help look like?

[2:39:42] I also want to just check.

[2:39:43] In on.

[2:39:44] Referrals.

[2:39:44] >> I had.

[2:39:45] Asked for a referral.

[2:39:46] To uh.

[2:39:47] Housing and neighborhood

[2:39:47] services.

[2:39:49] Committee to.

[2:39:50] Add in.

[2:39:53] The conversation around

[2:39:55] co-living spaces based on a

[2:39:56] number of emails we've received

[2:39:56] from.

[2:39:57] Residents that's not.

[2:39:58] Something new in the.

[2:40:00] community is actually been.

[2:40:03] Happening for 20 plus years but

[2:40:03] it is.

[2:40:05] Starting to have.

[2:40:06] A different.

[2:40:08] Challenge as more corporate.

[2:40:11] Spaces are corporate entities

[2:40:11] are moving into.

[2:40:12] That space.

[2:40:15] As well as I think it will be

[2:40:18] helpful to in housing and

[2:40:19] neighborhood services along

[2:40:21] with transportation to

[2:40:21] continue.

[2:40:22] The sidewalk.

[2:40:26] Discussion meaning if we're

[2:40:29] shortening the driveways and we

[2:40:31] know that we have co-living

[2:40:33] spaces where we can have

[2:40:35] multiple vehicles at this one

[2:40:38] property, what is our policy

[2:40:42] language in our studio say to

[2:40:43] keep up with the growth that

[2:40:45] we're supporting and we're

[2:40:47] encouraging and how that growth

[2:40:48] is impacting new neighborhoods

[2:40:49] as well as current.

[2:40:50] Neighborhoods.

[2:40:52] >> and last.

[2:40:55] This is for all of our solid

[2:40:55] ground.

[2:40:58] So congratulations.

[2:40:59] >> to our upshot.

[2:40:59] League as.

[2:41:00] Barry on.

[2:41:02] >> solid ground one.

[2:41:02] >> out.

[2:41:03] Of the.

[2:41:03] >> league of.

[2:41:04] >> four teams.

[2:41:05] .

[2:41:06] >> it was your solid.

[2:41:07] Ground that had.

[2:41:09] Its first member to.

[2:41:09] Actually be.

[2:41:12] Tapped for the wnba going to

[2:41:13] indiana for indiana.

[2:41:14] Michelle but.

[2:41:16] Your charlotte crown will.

[2:41:17] >> be playing in.

[2:41:18] >> the championship.

[2:41:20] On saturday in jacksonville.

[2:41:21] So what does that mean for

[2:41:22] those of us at home?

[2:41:24] Bojangles thank you.

[2:41:25] Steve thank you sean.

[2:41:26] They are going.

[2:41:26] To be.

[2:41:28] >> hosting a watch.

[2:41:31] Night party here at the

[2:41:31] connector.

[2:41:31] So we.

[2:41:32] Want they're going to be

[2:41:33] sending out.

[2:41:34] Promotions starting tomorrow.

[2:41:36] But want to make sure.

[2:41:36] >> that.

[2:41:37] Everyone knows come.

[2:41:38] Out support.

[2:41:40] Your women's basketball team.

[2:41:42] They have a wonderful record.

[2:41:43] Already again.

[2:41:45] We made it to the championship.

[2:41:45] The game.

[2:41:46] Is saturday.

[2:41:47] Night at.

[2:41:49] Seven and there will be a watch

[2:41:49] night.

[2:41:50] Party that.

[2:41:51] Will be.

[2:41:52] Open to the.

[2:41:52] Community for.

[2:41:53] >> you.

[2:41:53] To come.

[2:41:54] >> out and.

[2:41:55] >> support your.

[2:41:55] Hometown team.

[2:41:57] Thank you mayor we'll crown.

[2:41:58] And glad you were.

[2:41:59] Able to get that.

[2:42:00] We were able to.

[2:42:00] >> get that.

[2:42:02] Connection worked with uh with

[2:42:02] bojangles.

[2:42:03] Thank you.

[2:42:03] Council member.

[2:42:06] Uh mayfield council member MR.

[2:42:06] Areas.

[2:42:06] Thank you.

[2:42:07] >> mayor.

[2:42:08] uh, I just want to.

[2:42:08] Take uh.

[2:42:09] 2 or.

[2:42:10] >> 3 minutes for quick.

[2:42:11] District five updates.

[2:42:13] Uh, and a broader thought.

[2:42:14] So we.

[2:42:16] Recently celebrated five

[2:42:18] completed and soon to be

[2:42:18] completed.

[2:42:18] Fully funded.

[2:42:20] >> strategic investment area

[2:42:22] projects in the far east uh.

[2:42:23] Delivering long.

[2:42:24] Overdue infrastructure,

[2:42:25] pedestrian connectivity and

[2:42:25] safety improvements.

[2:42:28] So thanks to this council and

[2:42:29] the previous council and my

[2:42:32] predecessor for really funding

[2:42:33] these needed investments in the

[2:42:35] far east of charlotte, we also

[2:42:37] celebrated project 65 h new

[2:42:38] community dental.

[2:42:39] Clinic in charlotte.

[2:42:41] Expanding access to care.

[2:42:41] For immigrant.

[2:42:42] Refugee.

[2:42:44] >> uninsured and underserved

[2:42:45] families.

[2:42:46] And I'm incredibly proud that

[2:42:48] district five went the entire

[2:42:50] month of JULY without a single

[2:42:51] traffic fatality.

[2:42:53] Um, which I think that's huge

[2:42:54] progress and we're going to

[2:42:56] keep working towards safer

[2:42:57] streets, uh, with the

[2:42:58] collaboration of my colleagues

[2:43:00] here and there's plenty more

[2:43:01] coming starting SEPTEMBER.

[2:43:03] Uh, thanks to some inspiration

[2:43:04] from my colleague in district

[2:43:07] six and in district seven, uh,

[2:43:09] I will be launching cafecito

[2:43:11] with jade every friday so

[2:43:13] informal opportunities to grab

[2:43:15] some coffee, sit down with

[2:43:16] myself and talk about what's

[2:43:17] happening in your neighborhood

[2:43:19] some more to come on that and

[2:43:20] uh to my constituents.

[2:43:24] For thursday, SEPTEMBER 24th at

[2:43:26] 6 P.M. I'll be hosting a joint

[2:43:27] town hall with state

[2:43:29] representative jordan lopez at

[2:43:31] the grove presbyterian church

[2:43:32] on W.T. Harris boulevard.

[2:43:34] Uh, we'll talk about what's

[2:43:35] happening at both the city and

[2:43:36] state level.

[2:43:39] Um, how we both interact when

[2:43:41] it comes to zoning, housing,

[2:43:41] public safety.

[2:43:43] And I also.

[2:43:44] Want to leave us with one

[2:43:45] thought.

[2:43:46] As we continue conversations

[2:43:48] around youth curfews,

[2:43:49] restrictions on street vendors

[2:43:51] and now restrictions on fruit

[2:43:52] trucks.

[2:43:54] Um, I think we need to tread

[2:43:57] lightly whenever we expand

[2:43:58] government control into our

[2:44:00] communities uh, food trucks,

[2:44:01] street vendors, young people

[2:44:02] gathering and the lively

[2:44:04] nightlife are not inherently

[2:44:05] problems to solve.

[2:44:06] I think they're a part of the

[2:44:08] culture and energy that make a

[2:44:10] big city feel alive, especially

[2:44:11] as we continue to grow as a

[2:44:12] city.

[2:44:13] And of course we have a

[2:44:14] responsibility to keep people

[2:44:14] safe.

[2:44:17] But we can make charlotte safer

[2:44:18] without shutting charlotte

[2:44:18] down.

[2:44:20] So I don't believe more

[2:44:21] restrictions should always be

[2:44:22] our first answer.

[2:44:23] And finally.

[2:44:27] Um, to to uh complement with my

[2:44:28] colleague and district six

[2:44:30] council member owens mentioned

[2:44:32] I do want to recognize the

[2:44:33] passing of doctor gina

[2:44:35] navarette, a latina leader who

[2:44:37] ran for city council in

[2:44:38] district six and was among

[2:44:40] those who helped pave the way

[2:44:41] for latino representation in

[2:44:42] the city.

[2:44:44] I MAY have had the privilege of

[2:44:46] ultimately making history as

[2:44:47] charlotte's first latino.

[2:44:49] Council member, but history is

[2:44:50] never made by one person.

[2:44:53] There are people like doctor

[2:44:54] navarette who open doors before

[2:44:56] we ever get the opportunity to

[2:44:56] walk through them.

[2:45:00] So tonight I honor her and her

[2:45:02] um, her son for being one.

[2:45:04] Of those people in the family.

[2:45:05] Uh, get this cancer passed.

[2:45:06] MAY she rest in peace.

[2:45:07] Thank you.

[2:45:07] Council.

[2:45:09] >> um thank you, councilmember

[2:45:10] arias.

[2:45:12] And also just thank you both

[2:45:13] for the recognition and

[2:45:14] remembrance of doctor navarette

[2:45:16] ,council member johnson.

[2:45:18] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[2:45:20] I want to thank council member

[2:45:22] graham for your leadership with

[2:45:23] this stellar award and you're

[2:45:24] being modest but I know there

[2:45:25] was a heavy lift in the city,

[2:45:26] so thank you.

[2:45:28] It was a fabulous event so

[2:45:28] thank you.

[2:45:28] Thank you.

[2:45:32] Um, I'd like to know MISTER

[2:45:32] Manager.

[2:45:33] Or mayor.

[2:45:36] With the market changes and the

[2:45:37] interest rates going up and

[2:45:39] development slowing down, does

[2:45:41] the city have a plan for

[2:45:42] projects that are halfway

[2:45:42] completed?

[2:45:45] There or there are some in my

[2:45:47] area that are blighted

[2:45:48] properties code enforcement.

[2:45:50] there's uh there's safety

[2:45:51] hazards where um where people

[2:45:52] can gather.

[2:45:52] There's some.

[2:45:54] >> pools that are half filled

[2:45:56] and you know, we're getting

[2:45:56] some.

[2:45:59] Complaints so there's several

[2:45:59] half finished.

[2:46:00] Developments.

[2:46:03] >> so I'd like to know if

[2:46:04] there's a plan or if there.

[2:46:06] Is a minimum time.

[2:46:08] Where before the city gets

[2:46:09] engaged or what is that plan if

[2:46:10] we if.

[2:46:11] >> we start.

[2:46:11] >> to see.

[2:46:12] More of.

[2:46:14] >> of this um.

[2:46:17] Because we.

[2:46:19] >> want to avoid blighted

[2:46:22] buildings and our um also

[2:46:23] referral tracker we talked.

[2:46:24] Before about a.

[2:46:26] Referral tracker I think I.

[2:46:26] Received the link.

[2:46:28] >> but is that open to the

[2:46:31] public and if not can it be

[2:46:32] open to the public and I'd like

[2:46:35] to see dates add it to that

[2:46:35] referral tracker.

[2:46:37] There is a referral.

[2:46:38] That I.

[2:46:40] Think that was sent regarding

[2:46:41] infill development that we

[2:46:44] talked about in 2023 and it's a

[2:46:45] gray area if that was actually

[2:46:47] addressed I think planning

[2:46:48] staff would say it was not.

[2:46:49] So I'd like to.

[2:46:51] See um that on.

[2:46:52] >> the tracker.

[2:46:53] Along with the date that it was

[2:46:55] referred and.

[2:46:57] Um, I will be.

[2:46:58] Holding a meeting.

[2:46:59] With in.

[2:47:00] >> the university city area.

[2:47:01] I want to thank the city

[2:47:02] attorney's office, uh.

[2:47:05] For that for being willing to

[2:47:08] come to talk about university

[2:47:10] city data centers specifically.

[2:47:12] I know they're they're, uh,

[2:47:13] outside of the moratorium,

[2:47:14] especially the large one.

[2:47:16] But I invited, uh, the.

[2:47:18] Current and future state

[2:47:20] representatives because we know

[2:47:21] that there are there are some

[2:47:22] things our state partners can

[2:47:23] do.

[2:47:25] So I want to recognize that,

[2:47:27] um, state representative elect

[2:47:29] valeria lavie was here today

[2:47:30] and jordan lopez.

[2:47:31] Was and.

[2:47:32] Was here also.

[2:47:34] So thank you.

[2:47:35] That's all I have.

[2:47:35] Thank you.

[2:47:36] >> council member johnson

[2:47:38] council member mayo.

[2:47:42] No.

[2:47:43] >> we are going.

[2:47:44] >> that way.

[2:47:44] Okay.

[2:47:44] Back to you.

[2:47:45] >> if you want me to.

[2:47:46] Know I'll just go.

[2:47:46] Yeah.

[2:47:47] >> um thank.

[2:47:48] You for the opportunity.

[2:47:49] >> to chat.

[2:47:51] Uh, I just want to invite

[2:47:53] everyone to attend my town hall

[2:47:53] on.

[2:47:54] SEPTEMBER 17th.

[2:47:55] >> uh, the ripple.

[2:47:58] Effect light rail housing and

[2:47:58] investment.

[2:47:59] Um, as.

[2:47:59] We've seen.

[2:48:00] With the blue line.

[2:48:02] It has had a tremendous.

[2:48:03] Positive and.

[2:48:03] Negative impact.

[2:48:06] On legacy residents.

[2:48:06] Um.

[2:48:08] >> you you know, been there

[2:48:09] five, ten years.

[2:48:10] You can see the change that

[2:48:12] south in um has had and how

[2:48:15] that continues to impact going

[2:48:16] further down with the blue line

[2:48:17] .

[2:48:17] Um so we'll be.

[2:48:19] Hearing from.

[2:48:20] Different community groups

[2:48:22] talking about um how are they

[2:48:23] working with.

[2:48:25] Development even along the blue

[2:48:25] line.

[2:48:28] >> we know uh right by yancey

[2:48:29] avenue or.

[2:48:30] Yancey road.

[2:48:31] There is a rezoning.

[2:48:34] For 15 acres that uh will be

[2:48:34] happening soon.

[2:48:35] This is part.

[2:48:36] Of a.

[2:48:36] >> larger issue.

[2:48:39] About continued investment.

[2:48:39] As a.

[2:48:41] Result of.

[2:48:43] Light rail expansion.

[2:48:44] Uh, we'll also be talking about

[2:48:45] the silver.

[2:48:45] Line, uh.

[2:48:45] Which is.

[2:48:47] >> another part.

[2:48:48] >> of my district.

[2:48:49] >> so there there are a lot of

[2:48:51] pros and cons and really just

[2:48:52] trying to help empower the

[2:48:53] community to get ahead.

[2:48:54] So how.

[2:48:55] >> do they have a seat at the

[2:48:56] table?

[2:48:56] We'll be.

[2:48:59] Hearing a case study um from.

[2:49:00] A project that.

[2:49:01] Transforming nations forward is

[2:49:02] doing.

[2:49:02] >> where.

[2:49:03] They are.

[2:49:06] Hoping fingers crossed to have

[2:49:07] an impact on the request.

[2:49:08] >> for proposal.

[2:49:09] um.

[2:49:09] .

[2:49:10] Regarding the project.

[2:49:11] So that's a five.

[2:49:11] Year in.

[2:49:12] >> the making.

[2:49:14] Um strategy which.

[2:49:15] I think is how.

[2:49:15] >> we're going to have.

[2:49:16] To handle.

[2:49:17] Things as a community if you

[2:49:18] want to sit at the table.

[2:49:19] We always.

[2:49:20] >> talk about build your own

[2:49:20] table.

[2:49:22] And uh be part of that

[2:49:23] conversation and that is

[2:49:24] something that they have.

[2:49:26] Done and excited to share about

[2:49:26] that.

[2:49:27] Uh, so.

[2:49:27] It will.

[2:49:30] >> be uh, SEPTEMBER 17th at cbi

[2:49:31] community.

[2:49:32] >> center.

[2:49:34] Uh, right off old pine viewing

[2:49:34] yancey road.

[2:49:35] Right.

[2:49:35] So right.

[2:49:36] After blue.

[2:49:38] Line people can get off at

[2:49:38] scaly.

[2:49:39] Bark and.

[2:49:40] Walk uh, it's about seven

[2:49:42] minute walk from.

[2:49:43] There but a great opportunity

[2:49:43] to really.

[2:49:45] Start thinking.

[2:49:46] Strategically about.

[2:49:47] >> how do.

[2:49:48] Transportation investments

[2:49:50] impact future.

[2:49:52] Residents and legacy residents

[2:49:53] and how do we work.

[2:49:53] Together.

[2:49:55] >> uh, to make some of these

[2:49:57] pain points not so painful.

[2:49:58] So hopefully uh, people will

[2:49:59] join.

[2:49:59] >> us and.

[2:50:00] >> I'm looking forward to chat

[2:50:01] more about that.

[2:50:01] Thank you.

[2:50:03] Thank you council member mayo

[2:50:03] doctor.

[2:50:04] Whiteland thank.

[2:50:05] You a.

[2:50:06] Couple of things for me.

[2:50:07] So firstly I just want to say

[2:50:10] thank you to staff and to all

[2:50:11] of the ac professionals that

[2:50:13] participated in my town hall a

[2:50:14] couple of weeks ago.

[2:50:16] Um, regarding health care and

[2:50:18] data centers and the impact

[2:50:19] that that infrastructure has on

[2:50:20] our labor.

[2:50:21] Has on.

[2:50:23] Our materials and the broader.

[2:50:24] Community needs.

[2:50:27] So we appreciate you bringing

[2:50:29] your your time your your talent

[2:50:30] to the room because that's what

[2:50:31] it's going to take as we

[2:50:33] deliver these policy solutions.

[2:50:35] Um, these public forums are

[2:50:36] always my favorite meetings

[2:50:38] because I love to hear from the

[2:50:39] residents because I truly.

[2:50:40] Believe that it.

[2:50:41] >> takes all of us.

[2:50:42] And I.

[2:50:44] Believe in personal agency to

[2:50:46] change your environment.

[2:50:47] Uh, one thing that struck me

[2:50:50] today is I think about 77 is

[2:50:52] it's clear that we agree on the

[2:50:53] problem.

[2:50:54] >> where.

[2:50:56] People want congestion relief,

[2:50:56] people.

[2:50:57] Want mobility, people.

[2:50:58] Want their neighborhoods

[2:51:00] preserved and connected to

[2:51:01] amenities.

[2:51:03] Those are things that we can

[2:51:03] agree on.

[2:51:06] I think where I hear.

[2:51:07] >> the voices diverge is on.

[2:51:07] >> what.

[2:51:09] the solution actually is.

[2:51:12] And so I am hopeful that we are

[2:51:12] able.

[2:51:15] To from all sides take a good

[2:51:17] faith effort at trying to back

[2:51:19] up and say who are we trying to

[2:51:19] be?

[2:51:21] We spent a great deal of time

[2:51:23] implementing our 2040 plan

[2:51:25] years ago, and I believe it's

[2:51:27] our northstar whether it's I-77

[2:51:29] or transportation investments,

[2:51:31] whether it's data centers,

[2:51:32] whether it's housing or whether

[2:51:34] it's public safety that.

[2:51:36] Has to be our grounding

[2:51:37] document.

[2:51:38] And we should be producing

[2:51:40] policy and a suite of policy

[2:51:41] that works together that's

[2:51:43] better than the sum of its

[2:51:44] parts to deliver that vision.

[2:51:47] And so I'm hopeful that we'll

[2:51:49] be able to take a step back and

[2:51:50] really understand where we're

[2:51:53] trying to go so that we can

[2:51:54] develop a solution that works

[2:51:55] for everyone.

[2:51:56] Uh.

[2:51:57] >> we've got to lean on our

[2:51:58] partners at the state.

[2:52:00] Uh, we know that to do the work

[2:52:02] correctly and to have the data

[2:52:05] um, and the ability to assess

[2:52:06] alternatives not just design

[2:52:07] alternatives but true

[2:52:09] alternatives to the approach

[2:52:10] that we're going to need more

[2:52:11] time.

[2:52:13] And so I would implore all of

[2:52:15] you who came out tonight to

[2:52:18] reach out to ncdot to reach out

[2:52:20] to governor stein, to reach out

[2:52:21] to your legislative

[2:52:23] representatives because what we

[2:52:24] know that we need is in order

[2:52:27] to make a quality product, we

[2:52:28] need to be able to invest the

[2:52:28] time.

[2:52:29] To do it.

[2:52:31] um, and so I look forward to

[2:52:32] continuing down the path on

[2:52:34] that one to actually deliver

[2:52:36] something that we all want to

[2:52:36] see.

[2:52:36] Um.

[2:52:38] >> and I hope that everyone

[2:52:39] recognizes that this is just

[2:52:42] one example of policy work

[2:52:43] that's going to require a shift

[2:52:43] from.

[2:52:45] Incremental improvements to

[2:52:47] truly revolutionizing how we

[2:52:50] view our community and how we

[2:52:51] view our policy that delivers

[2:52:52] our future.

[2:52:52] Um.

[2:52:54] That's it for me.

[2:52:55] Thank you, doctor watlington

[2:52:55] and.

[2:52:57] Finally, council member ajmera

[2:52:57] .

[2:52:59] Thank you, mayor harrington.

[2:53:00] I have four things.

[2:53:03] First, I also want to honor

[2:53:05] doctor gina and everett.

[2:53:07] Uh thank you councilmember lens

[2:53:10] for, um, honoring her.

[2:53:12] Uh, my heart goes out to alex

[2:53:14] and her extended family and

[2:53:15] friends.

[2:53:19] I've had an opportunity to work

[2:53:22] with her, uh, and I certainly

[2:53:24] appreciated her passion that

[2:53:26] she brought to the table.

[2:53:28] And I loved how she would go

[2:53:30] through trash cans and pick out

[2:53:31] all the cans out.

[2:53:34] Um, at almost every event that

[2:53:37] I and I have been to where she

[2:53:37] was there.

[2:53:41] So, uh, my heart goes out to

[2:53:43] her her friends and family.

[2:53:46] Uh, second, I just want to

[2:53:48] thank staff like councilmember

[2:53:49] watlington said about.

[2:53:50] Uh.

[2:53:51] >> town hall.

[2:53:53] I had my town hall last week.

[2:53:55] Councilmember watlington as

[2:53:57] well as councilmember massara

[2:53:57] arias were there.

[2:53:58] Thank you for coming.

[2:54:01] Uh, we had more than 150

[2:54:03] residents, uh, who joined us

[2:54:04] for my annual state of our

[2:54:06] environment town hall with the

[2:54:09] focus on data centers, water,

[2:54:10] energy and charlotte's future

[2:54:13] and we heard from the industry

[2:54:14] neighborhood advocates from

[2:54:17] city staff, environment

[2:54:18] advocates and I heard five

[2:54:20] things very clear.

[2:54:23] First, uh, protect our water.

[2:54:24] Protect our.

[2:54:26] >> water grid, protect our

[2:54:28] neighborhoods and make sure our

[2:54:32] growth pays its own way and

[2:54:34] give residents a voice before

[2:54:36] decisions are made, not after.

[2:54:39] So as we go through this

[2:54:40] process, I certainly look

[2:54:44] forward to ensuring that now oh

[2:54:48] we turn this feedback into

[2:54:50] action in coming months.

[2:54:55] Uh, next I want to talk about.

[2:54:59] Up down up down street vendors

[2:54:59] .

[2:55:01] I know some of my colleagues

[2:55:03] brought that up.

[2:55:05] >> um I.

[2:55:07] Support what cmpd is trying to

[2:55:09] do which is to keep our uptown

[2:55:09] safe.

[2:55:12] But I'm having a hard time

[2:55:15] understanding how limiting the

[2:55:18] hours of small businesses will

[2:55:20] result in reduction in violent

[2:55:20] crime.

[2:55:23] So, uh, I would like the

[2:55:25] manager and cmpd to come back

[2:55:28] to us with data behind this

[2:55:30] decisions and alternatives that

[2:55:33] allows us to protect public

[2:55:36] safety without unnecessarily

[2:55:37] hurting small businesses.

[2:55:38] Um.

[2:55:40] >> because if the problem is

[2:55:42] crime then let's target crime.

[2:55:45] i'm not convinced that a small

[2:55:46] business or a few small

[2:55:50] businesses should be a

[2:55:51] collateral damage and that's

[2:55:52] what's happening right now.

[2:55:56] Uh, last but not the least, I

[2:55:58] want to raise the issue of

[2:55:59] predatory towing.

[2:56:01] Andrea, thank you so much for

[2:56:02] your memo.

[2:56:04] Uh, I know we have had an

[2:56:04] opportunity.

[2:56:05] >> to chat.

[2:56:05] About this.

[2:56:07] I would like to refer our

[2:56:09] towing ordinance to our safety

[2:56:11] committee and our staff and the

[2:56:13] city attorney to bring this

[2:56:15] option to strengthen protection

[2:56:17] against predatory towing.

[2:56:19] What I have seen from our

[2:56:22] residents and even our

[2:56:22] communications.

[2:56:26] Sent us an email last week

[2:56:28] where residents are being

[2:56:30] charged an inconvenience fee

[2:56:33] for calling 911 and that should

[2:56:34] never be the case.

[2:56:36] People have a right to call 911

[2:56:38] and they should not be charged

[2:56:40] an inconvenience fee for

[2:56:42] calling law enforcement.

[2:56:46] That's unacceptable and I know

[2:56:49] based on andrea's memo there

[2:56:51] are other towns and

[2:56:53] municipalities that have taken

[2:56:55] stronger protections in place

[2:56:57] to protect our residents.

[2:57:01] Currently we have a $400 flat

[2:57:03] penalty that doesn't account

[2:57:04] for repeat offenders.

[2:57:09] So uh, I would like us to look

[2:57:11] into that to increase escalate

[2:57:13] it for repeat offenders,

[2:57:16] especially for bad actors and

[2:57:18] um so the my scope that I would

[2:57:20] like us to examine escalating

[2:57:22] penalties for repeat offenders

[2:57:24] protection for nighttime towing

[2:57:25] because I know we have

[2:57:25] different.

[2:57:26] Protections for.

[2:57:28] Daytime and not protections in

[2:57:29] place for nighttime.

[2:57:30] And that's where a lot of

[2:57:31] predatory towing happens.

[2:57:34] Um, prohibit or.

[2:57:37] Stronger disclosure.

[2:57:39] Requirements and and I know

[2:57:41] there are certain bad actors

[2:57:43] that the attorney's office is

[2:57:45] taking the attorney general's

[2:57:46] office is taking an action

[2:57:47] against them.

[2:57:49] If we can create a pathway for

[2:57:51] us to refer some of these bad

[2:57:52] actors to the attorney

[2:57:53] general's office.

[2:57:54] So that's all I have.

[2:57:54] Thank you.

[2:57:56] >> council member moura.

[2:57:57] And on the referral request

[2:58:00] let's let's um if necessary

[2:58:00] talk a little bit.

[2:58:00] >> more.

[2:58:02] On that just to make sure that

[2:58:03] we know exactly what's being

[2:58:03] requested and.

[2:58:05] I think I'm trying to frame

[2:58:05] something.

[2:58:05] Yeah I.

[2:58:07] >> think the attorney knows uh

[2:58:09] because it was in her memos she

[2:58:10] sent it out last week and then

[2:58:12] she also sent out an updated

[2:58:14] memo to my answers with the

[2:58:16] list of all the cities and

[2:58:17] alternatives and she provided

[2:58:18] to us with an options.

[2:58:20] Let's see if we can we can try

[2:58:21] to frame something.

[2:58:21] For that.

[2:58:21] >> see the.

[2:58:22] Mayor I think.

[2:58:24] That takes us through the.

[2:58:25] Mayor and council's.

[2:58:28] Comments and um I believe we

[2:58:30] have expectation of a closed

[2:58:33] session and I'd ask the city

[2:58:34] attorney if you could read the

[2:58:36] motion to go into closed

[2:58:37] session so someone can follow

[2:58:37] and make it.

[2:58:38] Thank you.

[2:58:40] >> mayor, MAY we have a motion.

[2:58:40] To go into.

[2:58:41] >> closed.

[2:58:41] Session pursuant.

[2:58:46] >> to in cgs 143, 318 2011 a

[2:58:46] three.

[2:58:47] To consult.

[2:58:48] >> with the city attorney in

[2:58:49] order to preserve the.

[2:58:49] Attorney client privilege.

[2:58:51] Between the attorney in the

[2:58:53] matter of melissa boland versus

[2:59:01] city of charlotte claim number

[2:59:01] w004095294.

[2:59:01] >> so my second.

[2:59:04] Is second second.

[2:59:05] Any questions otherwise.

[2:59:06] >> all.

[2:59:07] In favor raise your hand.

[2:59:08] All against.

[2:59:11] All right we will adjourn to

[2:59:11] the.

[2:59:12] Conference room.

[2:59:12] And thank.

[2:59:14] >> you to everyone for being.

[2:59:14] >> here.

[2:59:16] And staying with us throughout

[2:59:16] the evening.

[2:59:17] Appreciate it.

[2:59:19] Okay okay.

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