[0:07] are we good to go? Yeah. All

[0:08] right. Um.

[0:10] >> I will call to order the

[0:12] regular planning commission

[0:13] meeting of thursday, AUGUST

[0:16] 20th, 2026 and we will start

[0:22] with the pledge. Salute and

[0:22] pledge.

[0:26] >> I'd like. To the. United

[0:28] states of america and to the

[0:28] public.

[0:30] >> for which it stands one

[0:33] nation under GOD, indivisible

[0:40] with liberty and justice. And

[0:45] roll call please. Commissioner

[0:46] wolfe. Here.

[0:49] >> commissioner wahl. Here.

[0:51] >> commissioner sharp here.

[0:52] Commissioner laffins.

[0:54] >> here..

[0:55] >> commissioner bykerk kaufman

[0:58] here. Vice chair. Scarpa here.

[1:02] Chair scott here. All right.

[1:03] Seven people here. Um.

[1:04] >> just a speaker card

[1:06] announcement. Anyone wishing.

[1:07] >> to address the commission on

[1:09] any item um, listed on the

[1:12] agenda needs to, um, complete a

[1:13] speaker card that are in the

[1:15] back. Um, once those are

[1:17] completed, they can be turned

[1:19] in over here to the clerk and

[1:20] they're taken in the order that

[1:23] they are received. Um consent

[1:26] agenda. Um, nicole, do we have

[1:27] any speakers for consent? No.

[1:29] All right, so we just have one

[1:32] item uh, 2.1 approval of the

[1:36] meeting minutes. Wow. FEBRUARY

[1:37] 2026. Is there a motion to

[1:42] approve? I move to approve. All

[1:46] right. And a second. So all

[1:48] right, so we have a motion by

[1:50] commissioner sharpe, a second

[1:53] by commissioner wall and uh,

[1:56] vote please. Commissioner

[1:58] wolff. Yes.

[2:00] >> commissioner wall.

[2:03] commissioner sharpe. Uh.

[2:07] >> commissioner laffins. Yes.

[2:08] Commissioner bykerk kauffman.

[2:09] Yes.

[2:11] >> vice chair.

[2:12] >> scarpa. Yes.

[2:13] >> chair.

[2:16] >> scott. Yes. So that passes.

[2:19] Seven zero. Um, we'll move on

[2:22] to uh public comments. Uh,

[2:24] members of the public MAY

[2:25] address the commission at this

[2:27] time on any matter not already

[2:29] listed on the agenda with

[2:31] comments being limited to three

[2:32] minutes. Nicole, do we have any

[2:35] public comment? No. Okay. Do we

[2:36] have any public comment from

[2:40] the audience? Great. And then

[2:43] we will move to item 4.1 a

[2:47] public hearing on use permit 20

[2:49] 5-06 and architectural. Review

[2:54] ah. 20 508. Garrett you're. Up.

[3:07] >> oh it's pretty. I can't.

[3:09] All right. Good evening chair

[3:11] scott and members of the

[3:12] planning commission. My name is

[3:14] garrett norman and I am here

[3:16] this evening to present on the

[3:17] skyway travel center project

[3:19] located at the northeast corner

[3:21] of east park avenue and

[3:25] carmichael drive. The subject.

[3:27] Uh site is shown on the screen

[3:30] and outlined in yellow um and

[3:32] is just shy of one acre in

[3:34] size. The site formerly

[3:36] contained a restaurant and has

[3:39] since been vacant. The parcel

[3:41] is adjoined with the butte

[3:42] county office of education,

[3:43] which houses their

[3:45] administrative offices and

[3:46] provides technical instruction

[3:50] to students. The request before

[3:52] the commission is for a use

[3:53] permit and architectural review

[3:55] to construct and operate a new

[3:57] six pump gas station and

[3:59] convenient store and

[4:01] self-service car wash in the

[4:03] regional commercial zone. An

[4:05] iteration of this project was

[4:06] first presented to the

[4:08] commission in JULY of 2024, and

[4:10] the commission passed a motion

[4:12] to approve the project. The

[4:13] butte county office of

[4:15] education filed an appeal of

[4:17] that decision to city council.

[4:19] The applicant ultimately

[4:21] withdrew the application before

[4:22] going to council after

[4:24] discovering improvements were

[4:26] proposed within an access

[4:29] easement that's granted to bco,

[4:31] the applicant submitted a new

[4:34] application last year that

[4:36] reoriented the site plan,

[4:38] eliminated a coffee kiosk from

[4:39] the proposal and removed

[4:42] obstructions that were within

[4:47] the access easement. Shown on

[4:49] the screen is the proposed site

[4:51] plan the access easement that

[4:52] benefits the bco property that

[4:54] I was referring to is in this

[4:55] diagonal hatch mark right here.

[4:59] As you can see um circulate

[5:02] around the parcel so that is to

[5:04] remain um. Unobstructed and

[5:08] access for bco uh the fuel

[5:10] canopy is right here which

[5:12] fronts towards um carmichael.

[5:14] The convenience store is

[5:16] adjacent to that and then the,

[5:17] uh, proposed car wash is

[5:19] attached to the convenience

[5:22] store and the entrance to the

[5:24] car wash comes in from the

[5:25] north side and exit to the

[5:32] south. Shown on the screen is

[5:33] the proposed landscape plan.

[5:36] This landscape plan is updated

[5:37] from the one that was included

[5:39] in the staff report and has

[5:41] been provided to the commission

[5:43] earlier today by email. A paper

[5:45] copy of the plan has also been

[5:47] provided to each of you and is

[5:48] also available up at the front

[5:50] for the public. This revised

[5:52] plan eliminates two landscape

[5:54] planners that were um down here

[5:57] on the south end um and that

[5:59] were in conflict with the

[6:01] proposed underground storage

[6:06] tanks. The project still meets

[6:08] the tree shading and

[6:09] landscaping requirements of the

[6:13] municipal code 13 trees are

[6:15] proposed for removal as they

[6:16] conflicted with proposed

[6:18] improvements or were um in poor

[6:20] condition. New trees and

[6:22] replacement trees will be

[6:23] provided, improving overall

[6:24] shading and landscape coverage

[6:27] of the site as well as a

[6:31] variety of shrubs and bushes.

[6:33] Here are the proposed

[6:34] elevations of the convenience

[6:36] store and attached car wash.

[6:38] The building uses a variety of

[6:40] materials such as stone, vinyl

[6:41] siding and board and batten.

[6:43] The facade incorporates planar

[6:45] changes with push and pull

[6:47] elements as well as varied as

[6:49] well as a varied parapet

[6:51] creating articulation to the

[6:57] roof plane. Butte county office

[6:59] of education has reviewed the

[7:01] proposed plan and provided

[7:02] several letters of

[7:02] correspondence expressing

[7:04] concerns to the proposal. These

[7:06] letters have been included in

[7:08] the attached staff report and

[7:10] has also been provided to you

[7:13] as supplemental material. Um

[7:14] the applicant has addressed

[7:17] many of their concerns such as

[7:18] relocating the venting stacks

[7:20] for the underground storage

[7:22] tanks away from the bco

[7:24] property, ensuring that the

[7:25] fuel truck delivery will

[7:27] maneuver entirely within the

[7:29] gas stations property and

[7:31] relocating the trash enclosure

[7:32] away from the gazebo where

[7:33] students often congregate

[7:36] during breaks. Pco remains

[7:38] opposed to the proposed project

[7:40] citing concerns related to air

[7:42] quality, emergency response and

[7:48] site security. Staff finds the

[7:50] project is consistent with the

[7:52] general plan by activating an

[7:54] underutilized site, enhances

[7:55] architectural design and

[7:57] landscaping has been designed

[7:59] to reduce impacts to adjacent

[8:01] operations of the butte county

[8:04] office of education is um and

[8:06] is located in close proximity

[8:08] to highway 99 and the on and

[8:09] off ramps along east park

[8:12] avenue. Staff recommends the

[8:14] commission approve the project

[8:16] based on the findings of fact

[8:17] and subject to the conditions

[8:18] of approval contained in the

[8:23] staff report. This concludes my

[8:24] presentation and both staff and

[8:26] the applicant are available for

[8:26] questions. Thank you.

[8:29] >> okay um so we'll start with

[8:31] uh questions for staff and I'll

[8:33] start to my left. Uh yeah just

[8:35] uh one question and it has to

[8:38] do with um um the easement on

[8:39] the property and circulation.

[8:42] Uh, we saw the circulation

[8:43] going around this building. Is

[8:45] there a mutual easement in

[8:47] place? It seems like there was

[8:49] some disagreement about that.

[8:49] Yeah.

[8:51] >> so there there was an

[8:53] easement that was on the bco

[8:55] drive aisles that benefited

[8:58] both properties. Um, but that

[8:59] easement had an expiration date

[9:02] which had expired in 2020 so.

[9:04] It no longer benefits the

[9:08] subject parcel. All right. And

[9:10] and now that I'm sorry I didn't

[9:11] bring this up to you earlier

[9:12] but now that I'm looking at the

[9:13] at the site line, does that

[9:17] mean that um uh, this property

[9:21] does not have access to the uh,

[9:22] driveway that. Uh.

[9:28] >> exits on to east park? Uh,

[9:30] the subject property will have

[9:32] ingress and egress access right

[9:34] here. Um, off of carmichael.

[9:36] There is no driveway access off

[9:38] of east park. Right. And this

[9:39] driveway access just for

[9:44] clarity is, um. Will be closed

[9:46] and, um, improved with, uh,

[9:47] landscaping. All right.

[9:50] >> thank you. Any other

[9:53] questions to my left? Uh,

[9:55] question on procedures. Um.

[9:56] >> so we're going to do a

[9:58] health risk assessment. From

[9:59] the air quality board.

[10:00] >> so happen before or after a

[10:01] after a. Maintenance so that

[10:03] typically that practice happens

[10:06] after um it's standard for

[10:07] entitlements for an applicant

[10:09] to secure their land use

[10:10] entitlements from the local

[10:11] agencies first and then.

[10:12] >> go. Through the subsequent.

[10:13] Permitting that occurs after

[10:14] and.

[10:15] >> one. Of. Those is going

[10:17] through the the local air

[10:17] district. Okay.

[10:20] >> thank you. Um and one more

[10:21] um do we have any guidance from

[10:24] the uh I know the general plan

[10:25] doesn't discuss it. Um, so the

[10:27] pine dogwoods doing guidance

[10:28] from the egg clinic committee,

[10:31] the chico clinic clipboard

[10:31] about.

[10:33] >> uh. Emissions from gas

[10:34] stations. This project

[10:36] specifically did not go before

[10:38] the climate action committee. I

[10:39] think for like any general

[10:42] guidance. Um, to my knowledge,

[10:43] uh. About gas stations, we do

[10:45] not have any policy, um, for

[10:47] use permits in gas. Stations

[10:50] due. To issue no. Okay.

[10:53] >> am I right? Yeah.

[10:56] >> I have. A couple questions.

[10:59] So, um, the permit. Findings

[11:01] what the staff report says is

[11:05] that, um, this use would. Not

[11:07] be detrimental to the health,

[11:09] safety and. General welfare of

[11:09] persons residing.

[11:11] >> or working in the.

[11:12] Neighborhood of the proposed

[11:17] use. Um, there are. Children

[11:20] going to school. At the.

[11:22] >> county office. Of education.

[11:23] Building.

[11:26] >> um and that wasn't

[11:29] mentioned. In um any of the

[11:31] documents. Uh, it's hard for me

[11:33] to imagine that um a

[11:35] convenience store that sells

[11:38] alcohol and uh, tobacco would

[11:41] be a good thing to have right

[11:42] next to a school. Apparently

[11:44] there's children as young as

[11:47] ten that, um, attend classes

[11:49] there. So I'm just wondering

[11:51] did you take that into

[11:51] consideration? Yeah.

[11:54] >> the proposed, uh, request

[11:56] before us this evening is a

[11:57] land use entitlement to

[11:58] establish a gas station. It

[12:00] does not take into

[12:01] consideration the items that

[12:03] MAY be sold as part of the

[12:04] convenience store. There's no

[12:06] use permit requirement to sell

[12:07] alcohol or to sell tobacco

[12:09] products within the convenience

[12:12] store. So, um, let's say this

[12:13] gas station wasn't here and it

[12:15] was just a um, retail store.

[12:17] That retail store could go in

[12:19] by right without any use permit

[12:20] requirement and they could

[12:21] still. Choose to.

[12:23] >> sell alcohol or tobacco. Um,

[12:24] because it would be allowed.

[12:26] within that zone they would

[12:27] still have to get their

[12:28] permitting of course through

[12:30] abc and what other state

[12:31] requirements. But there's

[12:35] that's coming to us merely

[12:37] because it's it's a gas

[12:38] station.

[12:42] >> correct. Garrett, could you

[12:45] just repeat maybe and help us

[12:48] the current zoning that's there

[12:50] and then what would be allowed

[12:51] by right there? Yeah.

[12:54] >> so the the current zoning is

[12:55] regional commercial. So it

[12:57] actually allows a variety of

[12:58] land uses usually commercial

[13:01] serving type land uses. So as I

[13:02] mentioned like a retail store

[13:04] maybe a grocery store or

[13:06] pharmacy um or even a small

[13:07] retail store would be permitted

[13:10] by right. Um they would come in

[13:11] for like a staff level

[13:12] administrative review for the

[13:16] architecture of the site. Um

[13:18] gas stations within the city

[13:21] require use permits in most

[13:22] zones and this is one of the

[13:23] zones that requires a use

[13:25] permit. So that's why it's

[13:26] before the commission this

[13:32] evening. Other questions? Um.

[13:34] >> I you know, I've learned a

[13:36] little. Bit about what. Vent

[13:37] stacks. Are and I've. Never

[13:37] heard.

[13:39] >> of them before. I'm sure

[13:40] I'll be looking for them in

[13:40] every.

[13:42] >> gas. Station now but. It has

[13:44] there. Been any I didn't really

[13:46] understand what I was reading

[13:48] when I was researching was that

[13:51] it's. Going to vent. Gases and

[13:53] is there any requirement for

[13:55] that? I mean I know we are also

[13:57] right next to a highway so I'm

[13:59] sure there's plenty of gases

[14:00] being emitted there. But is

[14:02] there any requirements that

[14:03] we've. Overlooked regarding

[14:05] those vent stacks? We don't

[14:07] have any policy or code

[14:09] requirements within the city

[14:12] code that would um regulate the

[14:14] placement or location event

[14:17] pipes. Um a lot of that is

[14:18] handled through the.

[14:19] >> the local. Air district um

[14:21] to manage that placement. What

[14:23] we were concerned a more about

[14:25] was the esthetics of that and

[14:27] how it MAY be screened. Um so

[14:28] they are including some

[14:30] landscaping to help with the

[14:31] screening because it is at that

[14:33] corner. Um, but we don't have

[14:34] any sort of environmental

[14:36] regulations about where. That's

[14:37] located and they are required

[14:40] for all gas stations and um, as

[14:41] you learned as designed to do a

[14:43] little bit that you will find

[14:45] them when you approach a gas

[14:45] station. Okay.

[14:48] >> thank you. Um I have another

[14:50] question. Um, which is

[14:53] carmichael is a dead end

[14:56] street. Um, and so I'm just

[14:58] wondering about the emergency

[15:01] access if if there's something

[15:02] going on at this gas station,

[15:06] let's say there's a fire. Um,

[15:08] anybody needing to get out of

[15:10] the area would have to go right

[15:12] past the gas station on

[15:17] carmichael to get out. Um, what

[15:21] ,um, was that something that

[15:23] was looked at? Yeah, our our

[15:24] fire department did review

[15:26] these plans. Um, and they will

[15:28] review it again. Um, if it's

[15:29] approved and moves forward to

[15:31] building permit. Um, and there

[15:33] are two points of ingress and

[15:35] egress here that are on

[15:36] carmichael. Um.

[15:39] >> uh, department of public

[15:40] works could maybe clarify more,

[15:42] but having access on. The east.

[15:45] Park is, um, not a good idea

[15:47] because it's a a heavy arterial

[15:48] roadway. So that's why there's

[15:50] no, um, access that is there.

[15:51] But my general understanding

[15:54] about, um, the fire code and

[15:55] the requirements is that you at

[15:57] least maintain like two points

[15:59] of access in and out of a site.

[16:01] Um, and. More importantly that

[16:04] the maneuvering on site is

[16:05] adequate enough for a fire

[16:07] truck to be able to get in

[16:08] there and circulate around the

[16:10] entire building and be able to

[16:12] pull their hose to all. Corners

[16:14] of the building as well. So

[16:15] that was already preliminary

[16:17] looked at by the fire

[16:18] department and there were no

[16:20] access, circulation or concerns

[16:22] flagged by the fire department.

[16:24] Yes, I guess what I was asking

[16:26] about though was people having

[16:30] to use the carmichael to get

[16:33] away from the area in general.

[16:35] So if carmichael is blocked

[16:39] then anybody who is working in

[16:42] that area or just is in that

[16:44] area that they won't be able to

[16:49] get out. I don't know if that

[16:53] has any ideas on that. Um, it

[16:55] is signalized. I can't speak

[16:58] to. What it would be in the

[16:59] event of a fire emergency and

[17:00] it depends on how many people

[17:01] are there and how many people

[17:03] need to get out at that

[17:04] specific time and what those

[17:05] conditions are at the time that

[17:06] the fire is occurring.

[17:09] Obviously emergency personnel

[17:11] would show up and if there is

[17:13] threat to the lives, I'm sure

[17:15] they have some protocol to

[17:17] expeditiously get people out of

[17:18] carmichael and make a quick

[17:20] right probably on the east

[17:20] park.

[17:22] >> and get them out of the

[17:24] location. The neighboring

[17:27] property. Does have egress. Off

[17:32] of. East park as well though.

[17:33] Yeah that's correct. There's

[17:33] there's.

[17:39] >> two driveway points. Yeah

[17:41] additional questions. Uh well.

[17:44] >> yes and.

[17:45] >> I didn't see signage was

[17:47] discussed in any of the um uh

[17:49] any of the materials. Can you

[17:50] speak a little bit about what

[17:51] signs will be on the property

[17:52] or is proposed. For the

[17:52] property? Yeah.

[17:54] >> so there has not been a

[17:56] tenant identified um for this

[17:59] so the the staff report vaguely

[18:00] speaks to that they have

[18:02] locational ideas of where some

[18:04] of that signage would be and

[18:06] you can see them here on the

[18:07] elevations. We also have a

[18:09] condition of approval that um,

[18:11] all signage is subject to a

[18:12] separate review and approval

[18:13] process and to be consistent

[18:15] with the municipal code. So uh,

[18:17] when that comes in staff will

[18:18] evaluate that against the code

[18:23] and make sure it's complies.

[18:24] Great.

[18:26] >> are we ready to open the

[18:29] public hearing? Okay. So we

[18:31] will open the public hearing

[18:33] and we will begin with the

[18:43] applicant julio tanjiro. Good

[18:46] evening. Hi my name is aaron

[18:48] from milestone associates from

[18:50] yuba city. Uh, we're the design

[18:52] firm for the project. Um, we're

[18:54] glad to be before you this

[18:56] evening. I want to thank you

[18:57] for taking the time for your

[18:59] package. I also want to thank

[19:01] staff garrett for all his help

[19:02] during this process. As you

[19:04] mentioned earlier, you know we

[19:05] originally started this project

[19:07] back in 24. So it's been kind

[19:10] of a lengthy process. But uh

[19:12] the good thing about it is that

[19:14] the the owner of the project is

[19:16] been totally um, wanting to

[19:19] work with um, you county and

[19:20] we've done everything pretty

[19:22] much at the last by still

[19:23] making the project viable

[19:26] because we need you know, there

[19:28] are some things that we just

[19:29] can't do based on the type of

[19:30] project that it is. But we did

[19:32] take all their concerns into

[19:34] consideration and actually

[19:36] consult with experts in those

[19:38] specific concerns that they

[19:40] had. And we actually had a

[19:41] letter addressed or included in

[19:42] your package that you you were

[19:45] able to refer to you um the

[19:46] easement. Yeah. That was just

[19:48] kind of like a surprise for us.

[19:50] But um again, that didn't kill

[19:52] the project. We still had

[19:54] access off of carmichael. So

[19:55] although it would have been

[19:56] easier to be able to have more

[19:58] access off of the adjacent

[20:00] property like originally was

[20:02] designed um it didn't affect

[20:05] the project. We have uh,

[20:06] circulation throughout the

[20:09] project and avoided all the

[20:11] conflicts. It was reviewed by

[20:13] traffic um and again all the

[20:14] departments reviewed it and um

[20:16] the comments that were

[20:17] presented were addressed so

[20:18] there wasn't anything regarding

[20:20] that one access off of

[20:24] carmichael. Um the seed uh

[20:26] again it we meet all the zoning

[20:28] requirements so they're not

[20:29] we're not asking for an

[20:31] exception or a uh, variance or

[20:33] we've met everything that the

[20:37] city required and so um, when

[20:39] quite a couple of questions

[20:41] were brought up the mean stacks

[20:43] i mean, it's kind of like it's

[20:44] kind of funny because every gas

[20:46] station has them and you really

[20:47] don't see them. We try to

[20:49] screen them but state

[20:50] requirement that we have those

[20:52] tanks uh vented and so we

[20:54] usually do it somewhere where

[20:55] it's not visible. Um you

[20:57] obviously don't smell them

[20:58] because a lot of people are

[20:59] like oh I'm going to be

[21:00] smelling fumes but if you go to

[21:02] any gas station I mean usually

[21:03] it's at the pump or you might

[21:04] smell something but they have

[21:07] the vacuum pump so it's very

[21:09] minimal if anything in the way

[21:10] they're designed is high enough

[21:13] that it's going to disperse any

[21:15] kind of fuel. If there was um,

[21:17] it's not going to be down at

[21:18] the ground level where it would

[21:21] affect pedestrians. So that's a

[21:23] common design that's been

[21:25] around for since gas stations

[21:26] have been around. So it's not

[21:28] uh that really isn't a concern.

[21:31] Um fire department did review

[21:33] the project and again they

[21:35] reviewed the driveways. Um we

[21:36] originally wanted to keep the

[21:38] existing driveway on the south

[21:39] because again we have more

[21:41] access better for us. But um,

[21:43] traffic came back and said that

[21:44] it was too close to the corner

[21:46] and might cause conflicts and

[21:47] peer reviewed it and they said

[21:49] the site still was viable with

[21:51] the one driveway. So that

[21:52] worked out really well. So you

[21:56] kind of met with the city and

[21:57] agreed to close that south

[22:01] driveway. Um the cul de sac

[22:03] question that's that's

[22:05] interesting because I mean

[22:06] right now it's a classic,

[22:08] right? So I mean any building

[22:10] that's on that street that gets

[22:12] has a fire or emergency

[22:13] regardless of at the gas

[22:15] station or anything else

[22:16] they're going to have that

[22:19] conflict or evacuation concern

[22:20] like was mentioned on this

[22:22] project is that on our specific

[22:24] parcel and the you county's

[22:25] parcel they actually have

[22:26] another exit. So if something

[22:29] happened on our site it should

[22:31] be able to get around our

[22:33] property and but it was to come

[22:34] down carmichael back to park.

[22:36] So regardless of people's lives

[22:38] or somebody else that concern

[22:41] already exists and we are

[22:42] already by allowing the

[22:43] multiple access points or

[22:46] egress um it was deemed that it

[22:47] would not come create a

[22:50] conflict and then uh the

[22:52] signage question uh yeah we're

[22:54] required by state to have price

[22:56] signing. So we have these

[22:58] monument signs that we have to

[22:59] provide the prices those are

[23:01] requirement but we also have

[23:04] tenant signage so it all meets

[23:05] uh it all has to be designed

[23:07] per the city sign ordinance.

[23:08] And as garrett mentioned it

[23:11] comes back to before you for

[23:12] approval under a separate

[23:13] submittal so you guys will have

[23:15] a chance to review it. And we

[23:17] also design those to match the

[23:18] building decor so they don't

[23:21] they match the overall building

[23:23] architectural theme and works

[23:25] together. So that will be

[23:27] definitely encouraged with our

[23:28] sign vendor when we present

[23:31] that to you. Um with that um

[23:32] again we're really excited

[23:34] about the project. This is a

[23:35] unique project. It's not a

[23:37] prototype like you see multiple

[23:39] times is a unique design for

[23:41] chico. So you guys are going to

[23:42] have this you're never going to

[23:43] see this design anywhere else.

[23:45] So we made it specifically for

[23:46] this location so we're excited

[23:48] about that. And again we've

[23:50] been doing these projects up

[23:53] and down the state for 30 years

[23:55] and we know the concerns about

[23:57] traffic um you know the

[24:00] concerns about safety all those

[24:01] are always our number one

[24:03] concern when we design these.

[24:05] And so I want to just express

[24:07] that we did really do our due

[24:08] diligence to make sure what we

[24:10] provide would be something to

[24:12] the benefit to the city and the

[24:13] citizens of chico. So with

[24:16] that, um is there any questions

[24:19] I can answer? Any questions to

[24:20] my left commissioner. Yes.

[24:25] >> um um, first I'd like to say

[24:27] thanks for taking the time to

[24:29] work with um um, the county

[24:31] folks and in resolving it seems

[24:33] like a lot of the issues that

[24:35] came up I know that's um, took

[24:36] a lot of time, a lot of work.

[24:38] So that's that's appreciated.

[24:40] Um, I had a question for you

[24:43] about the, um, the car wash and

[24:45] the need for any additional

[24:46] stacking leading into that car

[24:49] wash and like this is a fairly

[24:50] small gas station so maybe

[24:51] that's not going to be an issue

[24:52] but I know in some other

[24:54] settings it can and how does

[24:55] that work in. Terms.

[24:57] >> so most of the variance is

[24:59] considered an in bay automatic.

[25:01] So usually they have a one car

[25:03] stack because it's a quick um

[25:06] in and out. Um it's not like

[25:08] you don't want to compare it to

[25:09] like an express car wash that

[25:10] you see these popping up all

[25:12] over the place like quick

[25:13] quicker surf through those are

[25:15] these are just mostly for gas

[25:16] customers who might get a

[25:17] discount on a car wash. Right.

[25:19] Getting pump is not going to be

[25:21] uh high traffic. So our

[25:23] experience using these it's

[25:24] usually you know one uh two

[25:26] stack in this case we designed

[25:28] it where the site was kind of

[25:29] tight but we did provide the

[25:30] one stack and then we had the

[25:31] overflow that even if it did

[25:34] back up into the aisle it would

[25:36] still provide um it would be a

[25:37] minimal time for it because

[25:39] these car washed as you guys

[25:40] know they go pretty quick. So

[25:41] if there was any kind of

[25:44] stacking it would be um it

[25:46] wouldn't impact that dry bill.

[25:47] All right. And we haven't had

[25:49] the problem with stacking but

[25:50] if it was I know the applicant

[25:52] or the owner has had staff

[25:53] where they go out there and

[25:55] they might you know close it

[25:56] off kind of like driving

[25:58] queuing for starbucks or one of

[25:59] these coffee places we do the

[26:00] kind of the same thing we

[26:01] haven't had to do it for these

[26:02] types of car washes again

[26:04] because they're small okay. But

[26:06] that's one of the options if it

[26:07] it become a you know. I got

[26:08] some questions for you too

[26:10] about the um some of the design

[26:12] aspects of the project. I

[26:14] noticed the uh the canopy has a

[26:17] minimum um, height of uh, 16ft

[26:20] above the pavement and I'm

[26:22] wondering about um, some of our

[26:23] design guidelines that talk

[26:24] about trying to maintain a

[26:26] human scale, pedestrian scale

[26:28] and whatnot. Is it possible to,

[26:30] um, to lower that a bit and

[26:31] still comply with the building

[26:33] code? I I think the answer is

[26:35] yes but from your. Yeah we we

[26:36] try to do it we design it. Uh

[26:38] you know the minimum height on

[26:40] highways is 14ft and we try to

[26:42] keep it um a little bit higher

[26:44] just for the unknown safety

[26:47] factor and throughout uh,

[26:49] almost every petroleum company

[26:51] has a 16 foot minimum for in

[26:53] this case it would be more like

[26:54] rvs or mobile homes that are

[26:57] coming down the 99 they're a

[26:58] lot higher but they might stack

[27:00] something on top so it's more

[27:02] of a safety concern. You could

[27:04] drop it down but um overall I

[27:08] think we usually don't go lower

[27:09] than I haven't done a gas

[27:10] station where I've gone lower

[27:12] than like ten 15ft but usually

[27:14] 14 would be that's the minimum

[27:15] for state highway. So if you're

[27:17] driving down the highway you're

[27:18] going to be less than that. So

[27:19] you're right you know we just

[27:21] want to make sure there's no

[27:22] they don't need the canopy

[27:24] because that's pretty expensive

[27:25] and then structure. Thank you.

[27:27] >> and then about the the

[27:30] lighting under the canopy um

[27:32] some parts of it are it looks

[27:34] like the lighting comes in at

[27:35] around 30 foot candles and

[27:36] other parts it kind of

[27:40] disperses a little bit. Um and

[27:41] we don't have some we don't we

[27:42] don't know much about that

[27:44] really as a panel but it seemed

[27:46] like you know, just looking at

[27:47] what other cities have the

[27:48] standards and whatnot that that

[27:51] was a little on the bright side

[27:53] is this something that is um

[27:54] from your perspective an

[27:56] absolute necessity uh, for the

[27:57] so.

[27:59] >> we we have the uh design

[28:00] guidelines um, by the

[28:03] corporation plus just the

[28:06] industry in general and we hire

[28:08] uh lighting consultant who are

[28:10] experts in lighting and so they

[28:12] have the criteria to make sure

[28:14] it's lit well for operation for

[28:16] safety security. But also we

[28:18] got to consider that we don't

[28:20] want to bleed off the site and

[28:21] become a nuisance to the

[28:24] adjacent. So if you look at the

[28:25] photometric plan they do show

[28:27] like you said it is bright

[28:29] under the the canopy. We want

[28:30] to make sure that you can see

[28:32] what you're doing but it does

[28:34] taper off as it goes out. So in

[28:36] general it is an industry

[28:37] standard to keep them brighter

[28:40] under the canopy and then and a

[28:43] phase it out as you go. As is

[28:45] the um uh the surface on the

[28:46] underside of the canopy

[28:47] reflective or is it going to be

[28:48] a matte finish? How is that

[28:49] going to be treated? It's kind

[28:53] of like a white um uh surface

[28:54] on it. Okay.

[28:56] >> I don't know what it's like.

[28:59] They call it a like an acm type

[29:01] material. Um metal cladding.

[29:01] Yeah.

[29:03] >> I'm just trying to get an

[29:04] idea of if it's, you know,

[29:05] matter highly reflective in

[29:06] terms of the the actual

[29:09] surface. Uh or. Mhm.

[29:11] >> that's a good question again

[29:12] okay. I don't think.

[29:14] >> it's I probably be gloss I

[29:18] guess maybe for weather um

[29:22] purposes I don't. Okay thank

[29:24] you that's all I had. Any other

[29:25] questions left.

[29:28] >> yeah uh thank you um can you

[29:29] walk me through the thinking

[29:31] for the crosswalk to the to the

[29:33] gazebo area? Okay, so that's a

[29:37] really there was a a walkway.

[29:38] There's an existing, uh,

[29:40] planter from the gazebo going

[29:42] south and there's a sidewalk

[29:44] there. So we added that

[29:45] crosswalk to we figured if

[29:48] somebody is going to be at the

[29:49] school and they want to be at

[29:49] the gazebo, they probably want

[29:50] to go to the convenience store

[29:52] and buy a sandwich or pop or

[29:53] something. So we just wanted to

[29:55] make sure that was a delineated

[29:57] walkway just so that it's a

[29:59] little bit more safety factor.

[30:00] And just to make it clear that

[30:02] they could actually have access

[30:04] to that existing walk in

[30:15] gazebo. Anything else? I have a

[30:18] question. Um, what's your

[30:21] anticipated life of this

[30:23] business mean? We're kind of

[30:25] switching from gas powered

[30:27] vehicles to electric vehicles

[30:29] and there's already three gas

[30:32] stations within a mile of the

[30:35] site. Um, seems like this place

[30:36] won't be in business all that

[30:38] long. Either that or the other

[30:40] places will go out of business.

[30:41] What is your anticipated

[30:44] business life of this project?

[30:46] >> I mean average is like a 20

[30:47] year life when they they

[30:49] estimate 20 years but we know

[30:50] what's happening in california

[30:52] and what's going on with the ev

[30:55] and um, those uh these stations

[30:57] have actually started a lot of

[30:58] these big petroleum companies

[30:59] are realizing that as well. So

[31:00] they're real they're starting

[31:02] to have us have the potential

[31:05] to possibly convert to eb or

[31:07] provide more ev spaces on site.

[31:09] So uh, you know, the california

[31:11] code requires us to add some

[31:12] spaces based on the number of

[31:15] parking. So as the mandates

[31:16] start coming down the

[31:18] requirements for eb the site

[31:19] would be able to provide

[31:24] additional ev chargers. But the

[31:25] they're expecting to be at

[31:27] least 20 years. So I I don't

[31:29] know how quickly the ev mandate

[31:32] will be down but it's um

[31:33] they're are projecting is it's

[31:39] going to be while still. And

[31:42] are there any provisions to um

[31:44] have money set aside to take.

[31:46] The so what the tanks.

[31:47] >> out when they're no longer

[31:50] needed. So they're. Leaking

[31:51] hazardous material into the

[31:52] ground? I don't know about that

[31:54] one because I know you guys are

[31:56] I don't even know. But back in

[31:57] the 80s they had a big state

[32:00] fund that paid um gas stations

[32:01] to replace their underground

[32:02] fuel tanks because they were

[32:04] leaking and so they came up

[32:05] with the uh you know, basically

[32:07] code is is hey, we're going to

[32:08] pay you guys a big chunk of

[32:10] money to just replace them. And

[32:12] so it was a oh, the state fund

[32:14] that actually it was a federal

[32:15] fund that actually helped the

[32:17] owners do that. So I'm pretty

[32:19] sure that you know, these gas

[32:20] station guys are big guys as

[32:22] you guys can imagine. Um, they

[32:24] they're going to want to do

[32:25] whatever they can to work with

[32:27] the local agencies but to make

[32:30] a local business owner replace

[32:33] them that's going to be a big

[32:35] expense and that would be I'm

[32:36] pretty sure they have to be

[32:37] offset somehow with some kind

[32:39] of and to from either state or

[32:41] federal funding again

[32:43] everybody's going to. We're all

[32:45] in the same boat. We all want

[32:46] the best for the community and

[32:49] for the citizens. But right now

[32:51] like I said earlier that this

[32:52] this project currently meets

[32:54] everything all the zoning and

[32:57] um the requirements. So kind of

[32:58] hypothetically you're trying to

[32:59] figure out what could happen in

[33:01] the future. I mean, it's you

[33:04] know, we'd just be guessing.

[33:04] Yeah.

[33:06] >> I'm just concerned that the

[33:08] city will then be stuck with a

[33:11] tank with hazardous material in

[33:13] it and there's no money to

[33:16] clean it up and I would think

[33:18] it would happen. I mean, we

[33:19] know it's going to happen but

[33:21] we're no we're going to switch

[33:24] to electric so. As you. Own

[33:25] yeah as part of the application

[33:27] uh and the building permit

[33:28] we're required to submit a uh

[33:29] stormwater pollution prevention

[33:31] plan that addresses any kind of

[33:33] spillage, any kind of

[33:34] contamination stuff that's

[33:36] handled. We have a plan that's

[33:38] required to be part of the

[33:40] project that we would train the

[33:42] staff at if there's an

[33:43] emergency, what they need to do

[33:45] to make sure is not affecting

[33:47] anybody downstream from that.

[33:48] And so that's a requirement

[33:49] that the state actually makes

[33:50] us do on every gas station,

[33:52] which will be part of this

[33:58] project as well. Any questions.

[34:01] I actually have one more um so

[34:03] my apologies. Um, uh with

[34:05] respect to uh solar panels uh I

[34:07] don't know what the

[34:08] requirements are and I don't

[34:09] are you going to be uh,

[34:10] including those as part of this

[34:11] project and where do you plan

[34:12] to.

[34:13] >> put yeah. So what we do on

[34:15] solar we try to put them on the

[34:16] canopy. Um, right now we're

[34:17] required to do so much but not

[34:19] not to be 100%. It's supposed

[34:21] to be a percentage of the

[34:23] overall used to get it down to

[34:27] uh acceptable leep requirements

[34:30] .So we typically in the in the

[34:31] historically have used the

[34:32] canopy itself put up up there

[34:34] there's nothing up there so it

[34:36] works perfectly for a solar

[34:37] panel on the building itself

[34:38] it's a little bit harder

[34:39] because there's rooftop units

[34:41] there's exhaust fans. There's

[34:43] you know other items that kind

[34:45] of restrict the space. We've

[34:48] also looked a bit um some of

[34:50] the owners have decided to put

[34:52] canopies over um the parking as

[34:54] you guys you know, sacramento

[34:56] and roseville I don't know if

[34:57] you guys have done it here but

[34:59] there's you can put canopies

[35:01] over uh the parking and use

[35:03] that a solar. So it all comes

[35:05] down to you know, the

[35:06] profitability you know, the

[35:09] cost benefit of adding these

[35:11] solar panels and right now

[35:14] based on what we're proposing

[35:16] is we're going to do the state

[35:18] requirement um per permitting

[35:21] but and most likely will be on

[35:23] the canopy. All right. And

[35:24] maybe a question for staff on

[35:26] on that point does the uh the

[35:28] commission have any authority

[35:31] over the design of those panels

[35:41] or not?

[35:49] I don't know I yeah. Um uh I

[35:51] think our our scope is limited

[35:52] when it comes to solar and I

[35:54] think the state has put in a

[35:55] lot of protections, uh, when it

[35:57] comes to photovoltaic panels.

[35:59] Where they can be placed. Um,

[36:01] so our overall discretion is

[36:03] limited, but um, and a lot of

[36:05] this is handled through the uh,

[36:07] building permit stage. And so

[36:08] when it comes back through

[36:09] planning we will take a careful

[36:11] look at it to see where it is

[36:11] placed and make.

[36:13] >> sure that it. Is in an

[36:14] appropriate location and not.

[36:16] Some kind of obscure. Location

[36:18] that will kind of interfere

[36:19] with the overall design and

[36:20] esthetic. All right.

[36:22] >> thanks can add to that

[36:24] really quick. So that's

[36:26] actually a good point also

[36:28] because being 16ft that's the

[36:30] bottom of it. The top is going

[36:32] to be like 19ft. So I mean

[36:33] you're not gonna even see the

[36:35] panels from the street. Um also

[36:38] it's the catch 22. You could

[36:39] you want to screen them you

[36:40] want to see them but you also

[36:42] can't screen them from the

[36:44] morning so it's worked out

[36:45] really well. We're they're on

[36:46] the the canopies are piling up.

[36:48] You don't see them but they

[36:52] still have maximum efficiency.

[36:54] Which you mind um and I just

[36:56] kind of want to orient us that

[36:58] um the planning commission

[37:00] we're dealing with the land use

[37:01] um, and that's the decision

[37:03] that we're making tonight is on

[37:04] the land use use permit. Can

[37:06] you walk us through, um, what

[37:08] the rest of your process. Looks

[37:13] like? Um. If there was. Uh, a.

[37:14] Decision tonight, where do you

[37:15] go from there?

[37:16] >> all right, so. MADAM Chair,

[37:18] if I if I MAY just to clarify,

[37:20] um, we also have before us the

[37:22] design review component. Of the

[37:23] correct. Yes.

[37:24] >> okay. Thank you. Want to

[37:25] make sure that was.

[37:26] >> under so bye bye. Right.

[37:29] It's a commercial use and zone.

[37:31] It's an approved use with use

[37:32] permit which means it's

[37:34] required to come before you by

[37:36] stopping use. So uh the process

[37:39] here is we presented to you and

[37:40] let's say you guys vote yes and

[37:42] you take their staff

[37:43] recommendation and approve it.

[37:44] Our next step would be we would

[37:46] get the conditions of approval

[37:47] those those would be part of

[37:49] the resolution and then we

[37:50] would take those conditions of

[37:51] approval and prepare

[37:52] construction documents that

[37:54] would be presented to the

[37:55] building department and then we

[37:56] would submit all that for

[37:57] building department. We'd also

[38:00] submit environmental up for the

[38:02] gas portion also the food

[38:04] portion all the departments are

[38:05] going to have to be submitted

[38:06] and we have to get approval

[38:08] from all different agencies and

[38:10] then once we get that building

[38:12] permit at that point then we're

[38:13] going to start construction and

[38:17] depending on on that. I am most

[38:18] interested in I.

[38:19] >> forgot. About the design

[38:20] side. So thank you for

[38:22] correcting me but um the

[38:23] environmental portion what does

[38:24] that look like for you guys

[38:26] where what what local entities

[38:27] are you working. So the

[38:30] environmental portion um and

[38:31] and I'm going to help review is

[38:33] both the food bomb food portion

[38:35] of this historic is selling

[38:37] food. So even though it's a lot

[38:39] of it is hidden serve or you

[38:40] know prepackaged food they

[38:41] still have to require for that

[38:43] the fuel itself has to be

[38:44] reviewed by the cooper

[38:46] department, which is also an

[38:48] environmental health uh agency

[38:50] that reviews all the pumps,

[38:51] tanks. Um.

[38:53] >> everything that has to do

[38:54] with fuel. So we have to submit

[38:56] petroleum drawings to their for

[38:58] their review as well. Um, as

[39:01] far as um you know, the sequel

[39:03] part of environmental that's as

[39:05] you saw in the report it's

[39:07] exempt because of the enfield

[39:09] category but also there was

[39:13] nothing that was, you know,

[39:14] environmentally concerned that

[39:16] other than that you think that

[39:17] the county brought up but

[39:19] overall the county or the city

[39:23] um staff and agency saw that it

[39:26] was categorically exempt of any

[39:30] environmental concerns. So

[39:31] great. Okay.

[39:34] >> before we let him sit down,

[39:35] any other questions because we

[39:39] will not call him back up.

[39:39] Okay.

[39:44] >> thank you thank you it. And

[39:46] then uh we'll go back to our

[39:47] public hearing. How many

[39:48] speakers do we have, nicole?

[39:50] Three. Three. Perfect. Okay.

[39:52] >> um, and who's our first.

[39:53] Speaker todd alexander,

[39:55] followed by michelle zavala.

[39:55] Okay.

[39:58] >> thank you, MR. Alexander.

[40:00] And you have three minutes.

[40:04] Good evening. Um, I. Am the.

[40:05] Deputy superintendent.

[40:07] >> with. Butte county. Office

[40:08] of education. First I.

[40:10] >> want to acknowledge the.

[40:11] City staff. Who have worked

[40:13] with us. Apc this.

[40:14] >> this year to help us. Better

[40:15] understand. Thank you gary.

[40:17] >> for. The help there and

[40:18] addressing many of our concerns

[40:20] and uh we appreciate that

[40:22] coordination. Um, at the same

[40:24] time we maintain several

[40:27] significant concerns because of

[40:29] how uh how close this project

[40:31] is and sits to a growing

[40:34] educational campus. Um, so we

[40:36] serve students here through

[40:38] career technical education,

[40:40] regional occupational programs

[40:42] and courses as well as foster

[40:46] youth services. Our cte and our

[40:48] ap programs are actively

[40:50] recruiting and filling seats in

[40:51] a high demand career pathways

[40:54] and including health care

[40:56] dentistry. And so this campus

[40:58] is going to continue to grow

[40:59] and continue to see substantial

[41:02] student use. One of our main

[41:03] concerns has been touched on

[41:05] already is the safety issue um,

[41:07] due to a fire or a potential

[41:10] spill once that uh driveway is

[41:11] removed to the south well

[41:13] they're only going to have one

[41:16] um driveway out. And in the

[41:18] event that something happens at

[41:19] the front end of carmichael,

[41:20] it's a dead end at the other

[41:22] end. So we would have to see

[41:23] about getting all our staff and

[41:26] all of our students down to the

[41:27] other end and we have to go

[41:29] past whatever that spill or

[41:34] that fire is at that point. Um.

[41:38] There are a number of other

[41:39] concerns that we've put into

[41:44] our letter. Um, and uh,

[41:46] including the the concerns with

[41:47] tanker truck access, uh,

[41:49] different security issues and

[41:52] different emergency response.

[41:54] Um, again, we do appreciate the

[41:56] work the city has done with us.

[41:58] Um, our responsibility is

[42:00] always to butte county

[42:02] students. So we want to make

[42:03] sure that the commissioners

[42:04] fully understands that this is

[42:07] is not a lightly used property.

[42:08] Um, the proposed development

[42:10] will negatively impact students

[42:13] and educators and it is an

[42:14] active educational site serving

[42:16] a growing number of students

[42:17] and preparing for important

[42:19] careers within our local

[42:21] economy. For those reasons, bsu

[42:23] continues to have serious

[42:25] concerns with this project and

[42:27] as proposed um and I'm here to

[42:30] go on record so that um in the

[42:31] event that something does

[42:32] happen and there is an

[42:33] emergency or there isn't a

[42:36] fire, we brought it to your

[42:38] attention. And so um, we've

[42:40] done our job for the students

[42:42] so thank you. Thank you.

[42:44] >> uh, any questions for MR.

[42:46] Alexander? Okay.

[42:51] >> thank you. Next speaker is

[42:53] michelle zeppelin followed by

[42:55] amanda simmons. Good evening

[42:57] commissioners, thank you for,

[42:58] um, allowing. Us to.

[43:02] >> speak and want to first.

[43:03] Start off with saying. We want

[43:05] to make sure that you know that

[43:06] we are pro-business. There have

[43:08] been multiple businesses in

[43:11] this area um, and in this at

[43:13] this site restaurants mostly

[43:16] but also a wick grocery store

[43:18] public health. So we have been

[43:20] a good steward and we want to

[43:21] be a good neighbor but our

[43:24] concerns rest with a lot of the

[43:27] congestion that this, uh, new

[43:30] proposed business will bring.

[43:32] If you can picture the area

[43:33] there's dutch brothers there.

[43:36] Um and yes, there is uh, access

[43:39] out to east park but that has

[43:41] been closed off for a long

[43:43] time. So right now there is

[43:46] really no access out that way.

[43:49] So at the other end is chico

[43:50] unified school district bus

[43:52] barn. So we have school busses

[43:54] .This is our main bus barn and

[43:56] only bus barn so we have school

[43:58] busses coming out that way

[44:01] morning noon in and out in the

[44:03] afternoon added to the dutch

[44:05] brothers and then added to our

[44:06] own traffic. So it's going to

[44:08] be a very congested area. So

[44:10] that's our main concern because

[44:13] if there is an incident of

[44:15] safety um it's going to be a

[44:19] congested area. So just want to

[44:21] share that we do have career

[44:22] technical education programs

[44:23] there and our next speaker is

[44:25] going to speak to that. But we

[44:28] also serve county wide uh we're

[44:29] technical assistance and

[44:31] support for our districts, um,

[44:32] with homeless youth, foster

[44:35] youth and also students who are

[44:37] having um troubles with um

[44:39] tobacco and vaping. So we have

[44:40] prevention services there. So

[44:42] every week we have minimum of

[44:46] 40 students age 16 to 25 of

[44:48] that population coming to the

[44:51] site to see staff and have

[44:52] services and supports. These

[44:55] are students that can have

[44:58] alcohol and tobacco um

[44:59] challenges. And so that is one

[45:01] of our concerns is having a

[45:03] convenience store um with those

[45:06] products. So it's important

[45:08] that um we highlight those

[45:10] students and that this proposed

[45:12] business will add additional

[45:15] traffic and and flow that will

[45:18] be a detriment to us. So thank

[45:19] you again for listening to our

[45:22] concerns. Thank you.

[45:24] >> there's any questions. Any

[45:29] questions for the speaker. And

[45:29] then amanda simmons.

[45:35] >> good evening. Amanda simmons

[45:36] senior director of workforce

[45:37] development and business

[45:38] partnerships I work at the

[45:40] carmichael location every day I

[45:41] have the great honor and

[45:43] pleasure to oversee our rop

[45:46] programs. So there are some

[45:47] significant concerns, as you've

[45:48] heard earlier for our students

[45:49] and our employees. Safety with

[45:51] a specific business. Um,

[45:52] including the traffic

[45:54] congestion and east park avenue

[45:56] is a well known emergency

[45:58] thoroughfare daily I sit in my

[46:00] office and I hear the sirens

[46:01] running up and down that road,

[46:04] so I fear what congestion added

[46:05] to that area does for our

[46:07] ability to get in or out of the

[46:09] site to paint a picture for you

[46:11] of what this site looks like on

[46:13] a regular basis or daily basis,

[46:14] we have approximately 100

[46:16] students that move through our

[46:18] rop programs on any given day.

[46:20] Uh a quarter of those are high

[46:21] school age students that are

[46:23] exploring career pathways. The

[46:25] remainder are 18 and older and

[46:26] they are completing skilled

[46:27] workforce training programs to

[46:29] enter high need, high wage

[46:32] careers in our community. If

[46:34] you have been to a local dental

[46:36] office, a veterinary office, a

[46:38] doctor's office recently or any

[46:40] time you most likely have run

[46:42] into one of the graduates of

[46:43] our programs or uh, that are

[46:44] offered at this site that we

[46:46] train. So we have certified

[46:47] veterinary assistants,

[46:48] registered dental assistants

[46:49] through a variety of programs

[46:50] including our comprehensive

[46:52] program, an apprenticeship

[46:54] program and dental specialty

[46:56] courses that we offer. We train

[46:57] medical assistance. We train

[46:59] phlebotomy for our high school

[47:00] students. They're on our

[47:01] campus. They're exploring

[47:04] careers in the medical and the

[47:05] medical field as well as early

[47:07] childhood education. All of

[47:08] these are needs within our

[47:11] community. Many of our students

[47:13] have demonstrated an incredible

[47:14] resilience in overcoming

[47:16] addiction and other life

[47:18] challenges. Uh they use these

[47:19] training programs as a pathway

[47:21] to a fresh start, meaningful

[47:22] employment and a more stable

[47:24] future for themselves and their

[47:27] families serving our community.

[47:28] So as you consider this

[47:30] decision, I respectfully ask

[47:31] that you consider not only the

[47:33] use of the property but the

[47:34] people whose futures are being

[47:36] shaped here. Please prioritize

[47:38] an environment that supports

[47:39] the health, safety and success

[47:43] of our students. Thank you.

[47:45] Thank you and any questions for

[47:48] the speaker? Um yeah I have a

[47:50] question. So there have been

[47:51] businesses there before and

[47:53] there's been traffic in and out

[47:57] of that property before. Um,

[48:00] did that cause a problem? Um,

[48:01] there was parking congestion

[48:03] and and most of that occurred

[48:05] before I was in this role. So

[48:06] to my knowledge the businesses

[48:08] that were there before worked

[48:10] fairly well with our population

[48:12] of students as well. But we had

[48:14] three points of access into the

[48:19] site to. Any further questions.

[48:24] Thank you. Uh any other public

[48:27] speakers? No. Okay. And then uh

[48:29] we'll bring the applicant back

[48:34] up to um. To speak as someone

[48:37] uh. Yes, I it's the applicant

[48:38] you you're allowed to come back

[48:39] up and we're about anything

[48:42] that you heard. Uh.

[48:44] >> my name is I'm the old and

[48:46] I'm the owner and developer of,

[48:49] uh, skyway travel center. Uh,

[48:51] 2495 carmichael drive. I want

[48:52] to thank the city staff, the,

[48:54] uh, reviewing departments and

[48:55] all the community members who

[48:58] have evaluated this project. I

[48:59] would first like to acknowledge

[49:01] the concerns raised by butte

[49:02] county office of education.

[49:05] Bcso is important neighbor and

[49:07] we take our responsibility to

[49:08] protect its students, employees

[49:10] ,visitors and property

[49:13] seriously in response to those

[49:14] concerns regarding the previous

[49:16] approved version of this

[49:18] project, we withdrew that

[49:19] application, reconsidered the

[49:21] design and have returned with

[49:24] the substantial downsized and

[49:26] revised proposal. We took time

[49:28] to have additional

[49:30] environmental reports done. I

[49:32] think it's in your staff review

[49:36] from base camp. And it

[49:38] disproves a lot of the concerns

[49:40] the bco additionally, both

[49:43] parties are now aware that the

[49:45] previous easement regarding the

[49:46] shared parking and mutual

[49:48] traffic use between the two

[49:50] parcels has expired. The new

[49:52] proposal removes the drive thru

[49:54] coffee kiosks, relocates the

[49:56] fuel pumps and convenience

[49:58] store, moves the trash

[49:59] enclosure away from the

[50:01] students areas and positions

[50:02] the fuel system ventilation

[50:06] stacks further from bcos

[50:08] operation. The project has

[50:10] undergone review by the city's

[50:12] public works, engineering,

[50:14] planning and fire departments.

[50:17] According to the staff review

[50:19] review report, the layout meets

[50:21] the city's circulation and

[50:23] safety requirements, provides

[50:25] adequate emergency vehicle

[50:28] access and turnaround and can

[50:30] accommodate the anticipated

[50:32] traffic volumes. Security and

[50:34] site impacts have also been

[50:37] carefully addressed because the

[50:39] convenience store will operate

[50:40] 24 hours a day, an employee

[50:42] will always be present to

[50:44] monitor the property. The

[50:46] project features downward

[50:48] directed lighting to illuminate

[50:49] the site. We're minimizing

[50:51] spill over into the

[50:52] neighborhoods the neighbors

[50:54] properties drawing with drawing

[50:56] from experience with there are

[50:58] other developments we have also

[51:00] prepared to maintain ongoing

[51:02] communication with bco

[51:04] regarding security and incident

[51:08] response procedures. The the

[51:10] 1.93 acre commercial property

[51:13] near highway 99 is designated

[51:15] regional commercial and zoned

[51:17] for regional commercial uses.

[51:19] The surrounding area is

[51:20] similarly zoned for commercial

[51:23] use. Bco e, however has

[51:25] received exemption from the

[51:27] county and is operating in a

[51:29] commercial office space. The

[51:31] property was on the market for

[51:33] over a year before we purchased

[51:35] it, and bc bco could have

[51:37] easily purchased the parcel

[51:38] adjacent adjacent to their

[51:40] operations during the time as

[51:43] the property owners, we should

[51:44] be permitted to develop the

[51:46] parcel in compliance with the

[51:48] established zoning regulations.

[51:50] The project exceeds several

[51:53] city requirements providing 34

[51:55] parking spaces where 17 are

[51:57] required nearly 20% of

[51:59] landscaping and over 50%

[52:02] shading in the parking areas.

[52:03] Furthermore, the pump fuel

[52:05] pumps will be positioned 34ft

[52:08] from the nearest property line

[52:09] exceeding the required 15 foot

[52:11] separation. New landscaping,

[52:13] trees control lighting and

[52:15] contemporary art architecture

[52:17] will significantly improve the

[52:20] site's the site's appearance

[52:23] and function. We recognize our

[52:24] responsibility to the

[52:26] considerate neighbor we and the

[52:28] city have been in communication

[52:31] with bco since SEPTEMBER of

[52:34] 2022 I think I we started this

[52:36] process with tina and then we

[52:38] had bruce and I've been here a

[52:39] couple times. We got it

[52:42] approved and we have redesigned

[52:44] the project several times and i

[52:45] don't think I had all these

[52:47] gray hairs when we started in

[52:49] 2022. So and we have ensured

[52:51] that our delivery vehicles can

[52:53] operate entirely on their own

[52:56] property as courtesy to our

[52:57] neighbors. Fuel delivery

[52:59] vehicles will only operate

[53:02] during hours when bco is not in

[53:03] session so all the fuel

[53:05] deliveries we would do three m

[53:07] for him on the weekends when

[53:08] they are not in operations so

[53:10] it does not affect the

[53:11] students. City staff has

[53:13] concluded that this project is

[53:14] consistent with the general

[53:17] plan complies with the code is

[53:19] compatible with the surrounding

[53:22] commercial areas and will not

[53:24] significantly impact related to

[53:26] traffic noise, air quality or

[53:29] water quality and we have the

[53:30] studies to show that proves

[53:32] that ultimately this project

[53:35] will provide vital jobs and tax

[53:37] revenue to the city while

[53:39] replacing an outdated building

[53:41] with state of the art facility.

[53:43] And I receive calls from the

[53:45] city about the landscaping,

[53:46] about their being homeless and

[53:48] we solve it, we go out there,

[53:50] he said. We're very responsive.

[53:52] I have his phone, he has my

[53:54] cell number saved and we make

[53:56] sure this property is clean as

[53:58] much as we possibly can. We

[53:59] also respectfully ask the

[54:01] commission to consider the

[54:03] revised project based on

[54:05] evidence before you and to

[54:08] adopt resolution number 20 6-02

[54:10] approving the use permit and

[54:12] architectural review subject to

[54:14] the recommended conditions, we

[54:16] remain committed to complying

[54:18] with all the applicable

[54:20] requirements and working with

[54:23] the city and bco you and to

[54:26] note today is uh it's my wife's

[54:28] birthday so I dragged her out

[54:30] here for planning commission

[54:32] hearings so it'd be a good gift

[54:34] so we can get this one approved

[54:36] and so we can it's been about 4

[54:38] or 5 years since has been stuck

[54:39] for so we can get this one

[54:41] going and really enjoy our

[54:43] night. So thank you guys. Thank

[54:47] you. Um okay with that we will

[54:48] close the public hearing. Um

[54:49] sir, if we could just get you

[54:51] to follow the speaker card so

[54:52] we have your name in the record

[54:54] too. That would be great. Um

[54:56] and I will bring it back to the

[54:58] commission for any questions or

[55:00] comments. I've got a question

[55:02] for for staff about the the

[55:04] scope of our authority here

[55:07] tonight. Um, on the uh the use

[55:09] permit it's understood that

[55:11] the, uh, convenience market as

[55:14] you explained is a use this

[55:16] permitted by right. There's no

[55:17] use permit necessary for that

[55:19] to be established in this

[55:20] location. Is that correct? That

[55:23] is correct. So, um, that could

[55:25] go in without any kind of

[55:26] special use permit. Correct?

[55:29] >> right. Um, the gas station

[55:31] is the use that requires the

[55:33] use permit. How about the

[55:35] carwash? Is that part of it as

[55:36] well? Is that part is that a

[55:38] I'm sorry two out of the blue

[55:40] question yeah. The carwash is

[55:42] also a permitted use in this

[55:43] specific zone for out all zones

[55:44] but in this one it is. Okay

[55:46] right. Thank you.

[55:50] >> any other questions?

[55:55] >> I don't.

[55:56] >> have a question. But I.

[56:00] >> have a comment. Um, MR.

[56:01] Alexander you got me with the

[56:04] danger part and that is you

[56:04] know. Obviously something.

[56:06] >> that. We all want to take

[56:09] into. Consideration is safety.

[56:12] Um, and also the traffic. Yeah

[56:15] ,that's very obvious to

[56:16] someone that's lived in chico

[56:17] their. Entire lives and driving

[56:18] by there. But at.

[56:21] >> the end of the day. I'm not

[56:22] an expert on that. I haven't.

[56:24] >> done the traffic studies or.

[56:26] You know, we. Have to take.

[56:27] >> the fire.

[56:27] >> and safety.

[56:29] >> and all of those things and

[56:30] listen to what. They say and if

[56:32] they give their stamp of

[56:35] approval then. They're the

[56:36] experts, not us. But certainly

[56:36] I.

[56:37] >> think everybody. Would agree

[56:39] we would all have concerns

[56:41] about especially the safety

[56:43] issues. So I just wanted to

[56:44] make that clear because. Um.

[56:46] >> nobody wants to put anybody

[56:49] in harm. That would be awful.

[56:55] Thank you. Yeah. Anybody else?

[56:58] I have a uh maybe a procedural

[57:00] question for staff. Um, and

[57:03] that's on the uh the actions

[57:04] before us there's two different

[57:06] actions covered in one

[57:09] resolution. Um, how would we or

[57:11] could we proceed if we wanted

[57:13] to take one action on one

[57:14] component of that resolution

[57:16] and a different action on

[57:18] another component of it? You

[57:20] can take both together or

[57:22] however you want to present it

[57:23] as long as they are, you know,

[57:25] both either approved or denied

[57:28] to me. But my question I think

[57:31] I'm sorry is that um uh say for

[57:33] example the the the commission

[57:36] uh wanted to uh support the use

[57:38] permit for the gas station but

[57:40] did not want to support the the

[57:42] the design of the project. Um

[57:43] how would that how would we

[57:45] proceed? You would amend

[57:47] whatever design choices you

[57:49] would you would want to see

[57:51] reflected and so we would adopt

[57:52] the resolution with the

[57:55] amendments kind of suggested on

[57:56] the dies. Okay.

[58:01] >> thank you. Of course. Any

[58:06] further discussion? Do you have

[58:09] proposed amendments? No I just

[58:12] um um I just for commission

[58:15] discussion right at this point

[58:18] um, I think that the. Uh I

[58:19] don't have a concern at all

[58:21] with uh, the environmental

[58:22] review component of this. I

[58:23] think the right call was made.

[58:25] It's an infill project. That's

[58:27] pretty clear. Um, I think that

[58:29] that all the permitting that's

[58:30] necessary these days for

[58:32] projects are going to cover all

[58:36] that very well. Um, and the the

[58:39] gas station use um and the car

[58:42] wash their uh any use of this

[58:44] property is going to have some

[58:46] impacts. It's going to have uh

[58:48] traffic generating impacts and

[58:50] other impacts that might be a

[58:51] concern for adjoining

[58:53] properties. So I um I don't

[58:55] have a great concern really

[58:57] with with the use uh my

[58:59] concerns lie more with the

[59:01] design of the project and some

[59:04] of the details and um um. I

[59:07] it's uh it's challenging

[59:09] because I think that with a few

[59:10] changes that could be made into

[59:12] a a much better project in

[59:13] terms of the design. But I

[59:14] don't think that we should try

[59:16] to design a project up here.

[59:17] Um.

[59:19] >> you know, ad hoc and just

[59:21] kind of make stuff up on the

[59:24] fly but um, I I I would support

[59:26] the use permit but I do have

[59:28] some concerns about the design

[59:31] and the the reason for that is

[59:33] that the reason for those

[59:35] concerns is as the commission

[59:36] knows. You know.

[59:37] >> when we approve design

[59:39] reviews, um, we have to make

[59:41] findings that are complies with

[59:42] the design guidelines of the

[59:45] city. And so by making that

[59:46] action we're confirming that

[59:48] yes, it's consistent with

[59:49] certain policies in the design

[59:51] guidelines and I've gone

[59:53] through that and looked at it

[59:54] and listed a few here and you

[59:57] know. I, I. I see us kind of

[59:59] missing the mark and I would I

[1:00:00] would find it challenging to

[1:00:02] make those findings for for

[1:00:04] design review on this project

[1:00:06] for example um some of the

[1:00:08] materials used and on the

[1:00:10] building you know the vinyl uh

[1:00:13] siding I'm I'm concerned that

[1:00:17] that maybe you know, it doesn't

[1:00:18] really advance uh design

[1:00:21] guideline 1.2.32 that says use

[1:00:22] building materials that

[1:00:24] reinforce a sense of permanence

[1:00:26] or place and I don't think that

[1:00:28] vinyl does that. Um I think

[1:00:31] that the um the lighting might

[1:00:32] be a little a little much might

[1:00:35] be more than uh is is really

[1:00:38] uh, necessary here. Um and

[1:00:39] there are some. Um.

[1:00:42] >> uh, design guidelines about

[1:00:43] that. Uh.

[1:00:46] >> design guideline 1.5.14

[1:00:47] incorporate the minimum

[1:00:49] intensity of lighting necessary

[1:00:51] for safety and security to

[1:00:52] minimize glare impacts and

[1:00:54] energy consumption. So I'm just

[1:00:55] thinking maybe maybe this

[1:00:57] we've. We're pushing that limit

[1:01:02] here on this um the um. Uh I

[1:01:05] found the the elevations also

[1:01:08] MAY be in conflict with some of

[1:01:11] the design guidelines um the um

[1:01:14] .Uh I understand the you know,

[1:01:15] the modern design approaches on

[1:01:17] things but you know, there's

[1:01:18] one elevation, there's seven

[1:01:20] different materials on it and

[1:01:21] that's especially challenging

[1:01:23] to get that to kind of hold

[1:01:26] together. And we have uh um, a

[1:01:29] design guideline says uh uh we

[1:01:30] should articulate a clear

[1:01:32] design concept in a written

[1:01:33] narrative which I don't think

[1:01:35] we saw in this 128 decision

[1:01:36] makers and understanding

[1:01:38] fundamental design elements of

[1:01:40] a project. And I see we just

[1:01:42] have kind of a and I don't

[1:01:44] really mean this to to diminish

[1:01:45] the work that was done on this,

[1:01:46] but this seems kind of a kind

[1:01:48] of a jumbled elevation uh, in

[1:01:50] terms of the mixed mix of

[1:01:53] materials and I thought that

[1:01:56] the um. Um uh the parapet um,

[1:02:01] was also had kind of a um a um

[1:02:03] uh almost a stuck on appearance

[1:02:06] to get the sign up a little bit

[1:02:07] higher. Uh, and there was a

[1:02:09] design guideline that says uh

[1:02:11] uh void mansard torus which we

[1:02:12] don't have here necessarily or

[1:02:14] parapets which appear stuck on

[1:02:16] or not integrated into the roof

[1:02:17] with equal design treatment on

[1:02:19] all sides. Um, and just seems

[1:02:21] like that was just kind of

[1:02:23] stuck on there and it's I

[1:02:24] understand why that why that's

[1:02:26] done. But I look at this as a.

[1:02:28] Whole and it's like I'm not.

[1:02:30] Quite quite there with it. I

[1:02:32] think it could be there but I'm

[1:02:33] I'm hesitant to try to start

[1:02:36] tweaking the project and and

[1:02:38] making changes to it trying to

[1:02:39] design something up at the

[1:02:46] dais. So thank you. Um so what

[1:02:48] you were saying earlier you

[1:02:49] feel okay about the use? The

[1:02:52] use is a very intensive use for

[1:02:53] traffic and air quality and

[1:02:55] for. I understand it's.

[1:02:57] >> an infill project and for

[1:02:59] the categorical exemption for

[1:03:01] the infill project. It must.

[1:03:03] Not result in any significant

[1:03:04] effects relating to traffic

[1:03:05] noise, air quality.

[1:03:07] >> and water quality. For the

[1:03:08] air quality I'm feeling

[1:03:09] uncomfortable. Because there

[1:03:11] are sensitive. Receptors use

[1:03:12] our considering. Sensitive

[1:03:13] receptors per square and so

[1:03:15] it's like I feel uncomfortable

[1:03:17] approving the project and I

[1:03:18] know that there will be a there

[1:03:21] what that uh hra or the hsa but

[1:03:23] like I'm I'm feeling a little

[1:03:23] uncomfortable just approving.

[1:03:25] >> it and just saying it'll be

[1:03:29] okay so. And that's the the gas

[1:03:31] station component of the use

[1:03:32] and the emissions from that. I

[1:03:34] do think that is why we have as

[1:03:38] you. Know okay. Any other

[1:03:39] comments?

[1:03:46] >> um can we segment off the

[1:03:48] use permit and have the.

[1:03:50] Architectural review. Um

[1:03:55] perhaps. Go to. Yeah I think it

[1:03:55] fits.

[1:03:56] >> give me a solution here.

[1:03:58] >> so if. It's the commission's

[1:04:01] will you could. Choose to um.

[1:04:03] Approve and adopt the findings

[1:04:03] associated.

[1:04:05] >> with the use permit and then

[1:04:06] recommend that the.

[1:04:07] Architectural component come

[1:04:09] back maybe either to this.

[1:04:12] Commission or to the arb board.

[1:04:14] Um, if that's the case, I just

[1:04:16] ask as part of that motion that

[1:04:17] the commission. Provide some

[1:04:18] direction to. Staff on. What

[1:04:19] are some of those changes you'd

[1:04:22] like to see? Um modified so we

[1:04:24] would have clear direction um,

[1:04:27] bringing it back. And I guess

[1:04:29] before we do that. Um.

[1:04:31] >> I do want to see if there.

[1:04:33] Was a. Will.

[1:04:34] >> uh.

[1:04:35] >> we do.

[1:04:37] >> have the recommendation of

[1:04:39] the motion. In front of us to

[1:04:41] pass both the use permit and.

[1:04:42] >> the architectural review.

[1:04:47] Um, but with uh, out of. Yeah.

[1:04:50] Would we have the will to pass

[1:04:52] that collectively. Or maybe

[1:04:53] commissioner. Well can.

[1:04:56] >> make that motion. I'm sorry

[1:04:58] what. I said maybe another

[1:04:59] commissioner could make that

[1:05:00] motion.

[1:05:04] >> and we could see. He's not

[1:05:07] going to he wants. No I I I

[1:05:09] would say that I would I would

[1:05:10] support a resolution approving

[1:05:12] the the use permit but not the

[1:05:14] the design review this evening.

[1:05:14] But uh.

[1:05:16] >> I don't know what the other

[1:05:17] commissioners think about that.

[1:05:17] Um.

[1:05:20] >> and how that that follow up

[1:05:20] design review should take

[1:05:24] place. Order people's thoughts

[1:05:27] on that. Or staff do you have

[1:05:30] any further insight on. That if

[1:05:32] I MAY recommend let's take the

[1:05:35] first use uh use permit um

[1:05:37] resolution first and or motion

[1:05:40] and move through that and then

[1:05:40] that's. Great and.

[1:05:42] >> then make a motion on the on

[1:05:44] the design aspect and see if

[1:05:46] how the commission feels. Great

[1:05:50] okay well. How about this let's

[1:05:53] give this a try. Um I move

[1:05:56] approval of um use permit I'm

[1:05:58] sorry I don't have. 20 506.

[1:06:02] >> thank you. Um uh uh. And

[1:06:04] adoption of the resolution to

[1:06:06] the extent that it approves uh,

[1:06:08] that use permit with the

[1:06:10] necessary findings. All right.

[1:06:12] So we have a motion. Is that

[1:06:13] sufficient for your staff and

[1:06:15] nicole. And that would be a

[1:06:17] motion to approve the use

[1:06:18] permit component of the project

[1:06:19] only. Okay.

[1:06:20] >> and then do we have a.

[1:06:24] Second I'll second that. So we

[1:06:24] have.

[1:06:26] >> a motion and a second um

[1:06:30] nicole could you take the vote.

[1:06:30] One moment.

[1:06:40] >>

[1:06:41] commissioner wolff.

[1:06:44] >> I commissioner wall uh.

[1:06:47] Commissioner sharpe. Uh.

[1:06:50] >> commissioner laffins. I

[1:06:54] commissioner bykerk kaufman. I

[1:06:57] I. Thank you vice. Chair

[1:07:02] scarpa. I chair. Scott I that.

[1:07:09] Passes seven zero. And then um

[1:07:11] how do we go about then getting

[1:07:13] a resolution on on the the

[1:07:14] design review I would propose

[1:07:17] that we get it back before the

[1:07:20] rhp. To um take a look at some

[1:07:22] of the design details a

[1:07:23] compliance with uh design

[1:07:26] guidelines. Um, and. But I

[1:07:27] don't know if we need a

[1:07:28] separate resolution for that

[1:07:30] now. Separate motion. Or

[1:07:32] separate it. So can we do that

[1:07:33] simply with uh with a motion

[1:07:35] without a resolution then

[1:07:35] correct.

[1:07:36] >> because you're just

[1:07:38] recommending for irb to review

[1:07:40] with your edits if I MAY. So

[1:07:43] then just a simple motion to um

[1:07:48] .Um uh. What will we say refer

[1:07:49] the the design review component

[1:07:52] of this to the er hpb uh to

[1:07:54] address compliance. Uh with the

[1:07:57] design guidelines of the city.

[1:07:58] .

[1:08:01] >> um. Okay have that can you

[1:08:03] give a few points of the notes

[1:08:04] you made before.

[1:08:05] >> so we can. Capture that.

[1:08:06] >> in the motion? Sure.

[1:08:09] >> I would say the I.

[1:08:10] >> have stuck on. Appearance

[1:08:10] but.

[1:08:11] >> I think.

[1:08:12] >> there's a nicer way to.

[1:08:14] >> say that. I'm sorry I would.

[1:08:16] Have stuck on appearance, but I

[1:08:16] think.

[1:08:17] >> there's a nicer way to say

[1:08:18] that that material. Okay.

[1:08:21] >> well, I have a a whole list

[1:08:22] of design guidelines here. I

[1:08:24] don't want to get into all of

[1:08:25] them really. But um, maybe we

[1:08:28] could talk about um. Uh.

[1:08:30] >> using appropriate massing,

[1:08:31] fenestration articulation

[1:08:33] materials and buffering to

[1:08:34] provide a pedestrian level

[1:08:35] scale perhaps in particular

[1:08:37] with regard to the height of

[1:08:41] the uh the canopy um design

[1:08:44] guideline 1.5.1 to subdue and

[1:08:45] we'll integrate exterior

[1:08:46] lighting into the overall

[1:08:49] landscape plan um design

[1:08:51] guideline 1.2.3 to use building

[1:08:53] materials that reinforce a

[1:08:55] sense of permanence or place.

[1:09:02] Um let's see here. Um and then

[1:09:04] uh avoid mansard roofs is a

[1:09:07] design guideline 2.2.26 avoid

[1:09:09] mansard roofs or parapets which

[1:09:11] appear stuck on or not

[1:09:12] integrated to the roof. Etc.

[1:09:16] Um. I and I think it's not to

[1:09:18] necessarily limit it to to

[1:09:20] those but those are the things

[1:09:21] that I'm kind of picking up on

[1:09:23] as the areas in which I think

[1:09:25] just some really small changes

[1:09:27] can make a big change in how

[1:09:28] this project ends up looking at

[1:09:30] I think and I I kind of

[1:09:32] hesitate to do this stuff

[1:09:33] because people don't think that

[1:09:35] that design review is a big

[1:09:37] deal but it really is and uh,

[1:09:40] this is a um uh it's a actually

[1:09:41] it's a gateway into this part

[1:09:44] of town um, coming in on off of

[1:09:47] uh 99 and uh, the city is

[1:09:48] making a tremendous investment

[1:09:51] in park avenue there and.

[1:09:54] >> uh um. You know. Um, the um.

[1:09:57] That whole part of the city is

[1:09:58] getting a lot of attention from

[1:09:59] the city and a lot of money

[1:10:01] going into beautifying it. And

[1:10:03] I think that, uh, this is an

[1:10:05] opportunity to. To to, you

[1:10:06] know, make sure that we're

[1:10:07] really in compliance with our

[1:10:09] design guidelines here and get

[1:10:10] a a great project. I'm glad,

[1:10:12] uh, that it's moving forward. I

[1:10:13] think it's going to it's going

[1:10:15] to end up being a real fine

[1:10:16] addition but I think it just

[1:10:17] needs a little more attention.

[1:10:18] Okay.

[1:10:20] >> the staff feel like they

[1:10:22] have enough to go. Yes yes

[1:10:23] okay. And to um share.

[1:10:25] >> with the. Applicant as well.

[1:10:25] Great.

[1:10:28] >> okay. So uh the motion is

[1:10:30] to. Um refer.

[1:10:32] >> the. Architectural review to

[1:10:33] the architectural. Review and.

[1:10:34] >> historic preservation. Board

[1:10:37] um with the key highlights. On

[1:10:38] design guidelines um. Mentioned

[1:10:38] by.

[1:10:40] >> commissioner wolfe. So is

[1:10:43] there a. Second to that motion?

[1:10:44] I have a question.

[1:10:46] >> I'm so sorry. You know, go

[1:10:50] ahead. What determines. And I'm

[1:10:52] sure it's in that big. Binder I

[1:10:53] was given when I got on this

[1:10:56] commission. But whether. A

[1:10:57] project goes to the

[1:10:59] architectural review board. Or

[1:11:03] doesn't. Yeah.

[1:11:06] >> so um, typically major new

[1:11:07] construction projects that.

[1:11:09] >> are located like on an.

[1:11:10] Arterial roadway like such as

[1:11:12] this. One would go but. Since

[1:11:14] it was. Combined with the use.

[1:11:15] permit which necessitated

[1:11:17] coming to the planning

[1:11:19] commission, we lumped both of

[1:11:20] them together and brought them

[1:11:21] here to you because.

[1:11:22] >> there's. This commission can

[1:11:25] have purview over both of those

[1:11:30] items. It's we're intended to

[1:11:31] streamline um. But and.

[1:11:32] >> this but.

[1:11:34] >> sometimes it we need a

[1:11:39] little bit more right. So it

[1:11:40] could have all been done in.

[1:11:42] >> this one meeting. If we.

[1:11:45] >> had the will to all if there

[1:11:48] are a majority of us who say

[1:11:50] the design as it is right now

[1:11:51] so we have a motion we still

[1:11:52] don't have a second. Um.

[1:11:54] >> if there is a majority of

[1:11:55] the planning commission who

[1:11:57] says the design looks great,

[1:11:59] let's move forward. Then that

[1:12:02] would be passed tonight. If the

[1:12:03] majority. Of the commission

[1:12:07] says no, we want the design. To

[1:12:09] go back then that would go to

[1:12:10] the rhp and.

[1:12:12] >> if I'm if I MAY MADAM Chair

[1:12:14] just it's not um and to be

[1:12:15] clear to everybody it's not a

[1:12:17] matter of of just subjectively

[1:12:18] saying oh I like that or I

[1:12:20] don't like that it's a matter

[1:12:22] of looking at it in the context

[1:12:23] of uh the design guidelines

[1:12:25] that the city has and why we

[1:12:26] have them and then looking at

[1:12:28] the findings that we need to

[1:12:29] make to take that action by by

[1:12:30] approving it we're saying yeah,

[1:12:32] we we believe it it dances the

[1:12:33] design guidelines. It's it.

[1:12:34] >> makes. Perfect sense. I

[1:12:35] agree. With everything you're

[1:12:38] saying. I guess I just. Um

[1:12:40] questioning or. Wondering if

[1:12:42] this could have all. Been

[1:12:44] achieved and talked about.

[1:12:45] Tonight so. That it doesn't.

[1:12:47] have to go to the architectural

[1:12:49] review board. But I guess the

[1:12:51] way the process goes it does

[1:12:53] have to and that way they could

[1:12:56] be done. And I think that this

[1:12:57] is the kind of project and I

[1:12:59] think it's been handled

[1:13:01] correctly. Yeah ideally that

[1:13:02] would be happening here right

[1:13:05] now. Um uh and I would. I would

[1:13:07] you know. Kind of prefer that

[1:13:09] but I uh the thing is is that

[1:13:11] um. Uh you. Know, I just

[1:13:13] hesitate to as a panel try to

[1:13:16] tweak a project and this and

[1:13:17] that and then you end up. You

[1:13:18] know.

[1:13:19] >> it's just not that that

[1:13:22] process gets gets very

[1:13:23] cumbersome. So I think it's

[1:13:25] better if we have a just break

[1:13:26] it off, talk about it

[1:13:26] separately and.

[1:13:32] >> resolve it right. Okay. Do

[1:13:34] we have a second. I'll second.

[1:13:37] Okay so we have a motion and a

[1:13:39] second uh. To uh. Refer the

[1:13:41] design uh review.

[1:13:43] >> to the architectural review.

[1:13:43] Board.

[1:13:50] >> um nicole. Commissioner

[1:13:52] wolfe. I commissioner wall.

[1:13:53] Right.

[1:13:54] >> commissioner sharp. Yes.

[1:13:55] >> yes.

[1:13:58] >> commissioner laffins. Yes.

[1:14:00] Commissioner bykerk kauffman.

[1:14:01] Yes.

[1:14:02] >> vice chair.

[1:14:06] >> scarpa. Yes. Chair. Scott.

[1:14:08] >> yes. So that passes. Seven

[1:14:12] zero. Um all right. Thank you.

[1:14:15] Happy birthday. Happiness.

[1:14:18] >> would be.

[1:14:20] >> better if. You got this. I

[1:14:22] know. Yeah the use. Permit

[1:14:27] though. That's the big one.

[1:14:29] Okay. Uh, so we'll move to item

[1:14:32] 5.1 regular agenda. Um,

[1:14:33] garrett, do I turn this.

[1:14:38] >> over. To. You to okay. So

[1:14:40] this is a. Bit of an unusual

[1:14:41] request that we don't get very

[1:14:43] often. Um, but chico unified

[1:14:45] school district is requesting a

[1:14:47] finding of general plan

[1:14:49] consistency for a new, um,

[1:14:50] transitional kindergarten

[1:14:52] through eighth grade blue oak

[1:14:56] charter school located at 2485

[1:14:58] um apodaca place which is uh

[1:15:00] tis right off in the bruce

[1:15:03] road. The 2.47 acre site would

[1:15:06] relocate the blue oak charter

[1:15:07] school from the current

[1:15:08] location at 450 west east

[1:15:11] avenue and is expected to serve

[1:15:14] up to 3300 students. The site

[1:15:16] was previously planned for

[1:15:17] residential, commercial and

[1:15:19] parking under the miriam park

[1:15:22] master plan um the proposal

[1:15:25] would instead use the 2.47

[1:15:26] acres for the proposed school

[1:15:28] or the new school and the

[1:15:30] adjacent 5.2 acre park that's

[1:15:32] adjacent to the site will still

[1:15:33] um remains unchanged and will.

[1:15:36] Still be in place. So state law

[1:15:38] requires that local land use

[1:15:40] agency's planning commission

[1:15:41] transmit a letter determining

[1:15:43] that the school is consistent

[1:15:44] with the agency's adopted

[1:15:46] general plan or any other

[1:15:47] applicable comprehensive

[1:15:50] planning documents. Normally

[1:15:52] this letter would be completed

[1:15:53] prior to the district's

[1:15:55] acquisition of the property.

[1:15:57] However, in this case the

[1:15:59] district has already purchased

[1:16:00] the property and is moving

[1:16:02] forward with construction of

[1:16:03] the school site. In my

[1:16:05] conversation with the district

[1:16:06] representative, it was

[1:16:08] indicated that the california

[1:16:09] department of education still

[1:16:11] requires this consistency

[1:16:13] letter prior to them operating

[1:16:16] in to review the location of of

[1:16:17] the proposed school is

[1:16:20] supported on this side of the

[1:16:21] city and would help address

[1:16:22] increasing enrollment and

[1:16:25] growth in east chico, including

[1:16:26] development around marion park.

[1:16:28] The general plan supports the

[1:16:31] location of schools in new

[1:16:32] neighborhoods with incompatible

[1:16:33] land uses and planned

[1:16:35] circulation infrastructure.

[1:16:38] Staff is recommending that, uh

[1:16:40] this commission pass a motion

[1:16:41] directing staff to transmit a

[1:16:43] letter on behalf of the

[1:16:45] commission to the chico unified

[1:16:47] school district summarizing the

[1:16:48] consistency analysis analysis

[1:16:49] that was. Provided in.

[1:16:52] >> the staff report. Um, I'm

[1:16:53] available for any questions.

[1:16:57] >> thank you. Um, I don't mean

[1:16:59] this to sound snarky but I just

[1:17:01] wonder why does the state

[1:17:03] recognize our authority when it

[1:17:04] comes to the general plan but

[1:17:08] not. Design guidelines? Do we

[1:17:11] know because there is there a

[1:17:13] philosophy there. I do not have

[1:17:13] a.

[1:17:14] >> philosophy on. Okay

[1:17:17] operations. Okay.

[1:17:21] >> um is there um motion to

[1:17:23] direct staff to transmit a

[1:17:25] letter to chico unified school

[1:17:26] district stating that the

[1:17:27] proposed. School site is.

[1:17:28] Consistent with the chico

[1:17:30] general. Plan so moved. All

[1:17:31] right. And do we have a second.

[1:17:34] Second can we have. A motion by

[1:17:36] commissioner wolf, a second by.

[1:17:37] Commissioner wahl and.

[1:17:43] >> a vote please nicole. Excuse

[1:17:45] me chair yes. Forgive me.

[1:17:46] Procedurally you still have to

[1:17:47] open it up to public comment.

[1:17:49] Oh, sorry. Um, is there any

[1:17:52] public comment? Okay.

[1:17:53] >> seeing none and no one in

[1:17:55] the audience uh, we will close

[1:17:59] the public hearing redo. Yes,

[1:18:01] we have a motion and a second.

[1:18:03] So moved. Thank you. Uh. And

[1:18:03] nicole.

[1:18:05] >> commissioner wolff. Uh.

[1:18:07] >> commissioner wall.

[1:18:07] >> uh.

[1:18:10] >> commissioner sharpe. Yes.

[1:18:11] Commissioner laffins. Yes.

[1:18:13] >> commissioner bykerk kaufman.

[1:18:13] Yes.

[1:18:16] >> vice chair. Scarpa. Yes.

[1:18:17] Chair. Scott.

[1:18:20] >> yes. That passes seven zero.

[1:18:23] >> you guys. There are 709.

[1:18:23] Okay.

[1:18:27] >> so exciting. Um, reports and

[1:18:28] communications. I have reports

[1:18:30] and communications for the

[1:18:32] commission. So, uh, just a

[1:18:34] heads up, we have two uh, media

[1:18:35] items coming before the

[1:18:37] commission here. Um, the first

[1:18:39] one we have tentatively

[1:18:40] tentatively scheduled for

[1:18:42] SEPTEMBER 17th and the other

[1:18:44] for OCTOBER 1st. Uh, the first

[1:18:46] one would be our residential

[1:18:47] readiness phase three which.

[1:18:49] Consists of. Um a host of uh

[1:18:51] code amendments and general

[1:18:54] plan amendments and then the

[1:18:54] um. The other.

[1:18:57] >> one on OCTOBER 1st um

[1:18:57] tentatively is the barbara.

[1:18:59] Yard specific plan. So nicole

[1:19:01] will be reaching out to you,

[1:19:05] um, for um. Attendance and. It

[1:19:07] is much appreciated when you do

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Planning Commission

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