[4:44] Pledge allegiance to the flag

[4:46] of United States of America and

[4:47] to the republic for which it

[4:51] stands. One nation under GOD,

[4:52] indivisible, with liberty and

[5:01] justice for all.

[5:02] I want to welcome everybody to

[5:04] the MAY 5th Cinco de Mayo

[5:05] regular meeting of the Eagan

[5:07] City Council. It is our first

[5:10] meeting of the month of MAY. We

[5:13] have a fairly light agenda in

[5:16] terms of topics. But I don

[5:17] t

[5:18] think we

[5:19] re going to be getting

[5:20] out of here in time for puck

[5:21] drop tonight. So we

[5:22] ll be

[5:23] getting into the meeting here

[5:26] really quickly. And hopefully,

[5:27] maybe if anything happens,

[5:28] we

[5:29] ll give a few subtle updates

[5:31] on the game. I know on the

[5:33] front row your your concern and

[5:34] following. So we

[5:35] ll make sure

[5:37] to do that. I will say that I

[5:38] we have a meeting. We have an

[5:39] item on the agenda tonight that

[5:42] was on the agenda for the apc

[5:45] on Thursday. And I watched that

[5:47] meeting live. I know many of

[5:48] you were in the room for that

[5:50] meeting on Thursday. When the

[5:53] wild played and won. So

[5:54] hopefully if we missed a good

[5:55] portion of the game, we

[5:56] ll get

[5:57] the same result tonight. All

[5:58] right. So that

[5:59] s that doesn

[6:00] t

[6:01] mean we have to spend the whole

[6:02] time here. Like if we can get

[6:03] home by mid second period,

[6:06] maybe, you know. Anyway, with

[6:08] that, MISS Miller, any changes

[6:09] agenda tonight? No, MR. Mayor.

[6:10] Council. Any changes? Agenda?

[6:11] No motion.

[6:12] Councilmember Hanson.

[6:13] To adopt.

[6:14] The agenda is presented second.

[6:15] That

[6:16] s moved and seconded. Any

[6:16] further discussion on the

[6:17] agenda? Seeing none. All in

[6:19] favor saying aye. And opposed?

[6:20] Nay. That motion carries and we

[6:22] have an agenda. We have no

[6:24] recognitions and presentations

[6:24] tonight, so I

[6:25] ll go right to

[6:27] our consent agenda. Are there

[6:28] any members of the public who

[6:29] are here on an item that

[6:32] appears in the consent agenda

[6:33] and had questions on that item

[6:34] and wanted to see item acted on

[6:37] separately? Seeing none, I

[6:38] ll

[6:39] bring it back to the council

[6:40] counsel. Same question.

[6:41] For a motion.

[6:42] Councilmember bacon.

[6:43] Move to approve the balance of

[6:45] the consent agenda. Second.

[6:46] That

[6:47] s moved and seconded. Is

[6:48] there any further discussion on

[6:49] the consent agenda? Seeing

[6:51] none. All in favor signify

[6:52] saying I and opposed. Nay. That

[6:54] motion carries. And we will

[6:55] move on to public hearing. We

[6:57] have just one public hearing

[6:59] tonight. It should be a fairly

[7:03] efficient item, I think is a a

[7:05] to vacate a utility easement at

[7:07] lot one, block one. United

[7:10] Stationers Edition at 1720

[7:12] Alexander Road. Owner.

[7:13] Thank you, MISTER Mayor.

[7:14] Members of the council. This

[7:16] request is actually coming from

[7:17] city staff for consideration of

[7:18] the vacation of the utility

[7:20] easement. The purpose is to

[7:21] vacate the utility easement

[7:22] along the south side of the

[7:24] existing building. Public

[7:25] easements are not required to

[7:27] address the existing private

[7:28] utilities within the easement

[7:29] on this property. So I will

[7:31] turn it over to Public Works

[7:32] Director Mathis.

[7:33] Thank you, MRS. Miller. MR.

[7:34] Mayor, members of the council

[7:35] and audience. This property is

[7:37] located in northwest Eagan, and

[7:40] it MAY look really familiar. In

[7:43] fact, the topic MAY be really

[7:44] seem familiar for the same

[7:46] property because it wasn

[7:47] t that

[7:48] long ago where we had an

[7:49] easement vacation on this

[7:51] property as well. Now, at that

[7:52] time, it was requested by the

[7:53] previous property owner. The

[7:54] property has been sold. Now we

[7:56] have a new property owner, and

[7:58] as MRS. Miller indicated, the

[7:59] request is actually coming from

[8:01] staff in this case. So it

[8:02] s

[8:03] kind of unusual. In fact, I

[8:04] don

[8:05] t remember. It

[8:06] s been a

[8:08] long time since staff came to

[8:09] council suggesting or

[8:11] requesting that the council

[8:12] consider an easement vacation,

[8:15] but in this case, the easement

[8:20] is addressing a water main and

[8:21] a storm sewer. So it

[8:22] s the

[8:24] darker shaded easement area

[8:26] that actually the sole purpose

[8:27] of it is to address the needs

[8:30] of the property owner, both for

[8:31] the building and the drainage

[8:32] of the site. So there

[8:33] s no

[8:35] public purpose for the

[8:36] utilities that exist within

[8:39] that easement. And so the

[8:41] thought is, is to make it. And

[8:42] we

[8:43] ve had discussions with the

[8:44] current property owner, both

[8:45] the former and the current

[8:47] property owner. But the thought

[8:51] is, is to take the easement

[8:54] away and let the property owner

[8:55] do what they want with their

[8:56] property, because there

[8:57] s no

[9:00] need for city staff to address

[9:01] any of the utilities that are

[9:03] located within these easements.

[9:06] So with that, we have sent out

[9:08] notices to all the regular

[9:10] interested parties, private

[9:12] utility representatives and

[9:13] such, and there

[9:14] s been no

[9:15] responses from anyone that they

[9:17] have any interest in the

[9:19] vacation of this easement. So

[9:20] with that, I

[9:21] m available for

[9:22] any other questions that the

[9:24] council MAY have.

[9:26] Cindy is the applicant. So what

[9:27] do you hear more from the City

[9:31] Council? Any questions of staff

[9:33] before I open up to the throngs

[9:34] of public comments? And I

[9:35] m

[9:38] sure soon to come seeing none,

[9:39] are there any members of the

[9:40] public who want to comment on

[9:46] the proposed? Vacation to the

[9:47] utility easement at United

[9:50] Stationers Edition at 1720

[9:54] Alexander Road. None. I

[9:55] ll

[9:56] bring him back to Council for

[9:57] additional conversations and or

[9:58] motion.

[9:59] For motion. Councilmember

[10:01] fields to close the public

[10:02] hearing and approve the

[10:03] vacation of the utility

[10:05] easement on lot one, block one

[10:07] United Stationers Edition, 1720

[10:08] Alexander.

[10:09] Road. Second.

[10:10] That

[10:11] s moved and seconded. Any

[10:13] additional comment? Seeing

[10:14] none. All in favor say aye.

[10:16] Aye. And opposed. Nay. That

[10:18] motion carries. If only this

[10:19] next item. We

[10:20] re going to be

[10:22] that brief. That concludes our

[10:24] work on public hearings

[10:26] tonight. We have no old

[10:27] business, so I

[10:28] ll go into new

[10:29] business. We have one item of

[10:32] new business. It is an interim

[10:34] use permit for Iron Gate data

[10:37] center. And Michael Margulies,

[10:39] apologies for the pronunciation

[10:40] there. It

[10:42] s an interim use

[10:44] permit to allow outdoor storage

[10:47] of four trailer chillers for

[10:49] operation of a data center

[10:52] located at 3199 Pilot Knob

[10:54] Road. MISS Miller, I

[10:54] ll let you

[10:55] get us started off.

[10:56] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Members

[10:57] of the council, the subject

[10:58] property was originally part of

[11:00] the 212 acre spare Univac

[11:02] campus. As a reminder, Sperry

[11:04] Univac campus was primarily

[11:05] involved in semiconductor

[11:07] research and manufacturing. The

[11:08] property is guided major office

[11:09] and zoned research and

[11:11] development. As the mayor

[11:12] indicated, the applicant is

[11:14] seeking a six month interim use

[11:15] permit to allow outdoor storage

[11:18] of four trailer chiller units.

[11:19] The Planning Commission held a

[11:20] public hearing on the interim

[11:22] use permit on APRIL 28th, and

[11:24] recommended denial of the aup.

[11:25] i

[11:26] m going to turn it over to

[11:27] City Planner Schultz for a

[11:27] location map and additional

[11:28] information.

[11:30] Thank you, MR. Miller. Good

[11:32] evening. Mayor Council. I do

[11:33] have a little bit, maybe

[11:34] lengthier presentation than the

[11:37] normal for an iup, so bear with

[11:39] me. So before you here, the

[11:43] map, the subject property

[11:44] consists of a 312,000 square

[11:47] foot building. As MRS. Miller

[11:49] indicated, that was part of the

[11:52] Sperry Univac campus. The

[11:54] property abuts Pilot Knob Road

[11:55] to the east and Tower View

[11:57] Road, which is a public street.

[12:00] To the north. Residential. Both

[12:02] single family and townhomes are

[12:04] located to the north of the

[12:05] property. Townhomes here.

[12:07] Single family to the north and

[12:11] to the west. And single family

[12:13] homes as well. On the east side

[12:15] of Pilot Knob Road. Central

[12:17] Park is located abuts the

[12:18] property to the south and the

[12:21] south west of the property.

[12:22] There

[12:23] s a change in grade. The

[12:24] park sits approximately 30 to

[12:26] 40ft below. The subject

[12:31] property. And then the City

[12:33] Spirit Tower is located just

[12:35] inside, almost surrounded on

[12:36] three sides of the property

[12:41] located right here. Back around

[12:42] the property is guided major

[12:44] office in zoned for research

[12:46] and development. The subject

[12:47] property was originally part of

[12:50] the 212 acre Sperry Univac

[12:51] campus, which comprised of

[12:54] three buildings. That 212 acre

[12:56] campus was approximately from

[12:57] Tower View Road down to Yankee

[13:00] Doodle. And Pilot Knob Road on

[13:01] the east side. The third

[13:03] building, which was located

[13:05] basically where Central Park

[13:07] Commons currently is at,

[13:09] comprised basically of that

[13:11] three building campus. As

[13:13] indicated, the campus was

[13:14] primarily involved in

[13:15] semiconductor research and

[13:18] manufacturing. 1987. The third

[13:20] building on the subject

[13:22] building was constructed to

[13:24] make up that campus. Building

[13:25] permits. At the time of the

[13:26] original construction

[13:28] identified a computer center on

[13:29] two floors of the north half of

[13:32] the building. On the north half

[13:33] of the building, which is

[13:34] basically this portion of the

[13:36] building. Later building

[13:38] permits identified the use of

[13:39] data center within the

[13:41] building. The south half of the

[13:43] building. Essentially, this

[13:45] portion just under the glass

[13:49] roof here. South building is

[13:51] comprised largely of offices

[13:52] supporting administrative uses

[13:53] within the building. When it

[13:55] was fully occupied by Unisys

[13:58] employees. In 2007, a portion

[13:59] of the lower level was

[14:01] repurposed. Approximately in

[14:03] this area for data center use,

[14:04] which included additional

[14:06] mechanical and generator

[14:08] plazas. Shown on this aerial in

[14:10] the south portion of the

[14:13] building in NOVEMBER 2025, was

[14:14] announced that Swivel

[14:15] Development Corporation

[14:18] purchased the property.

[14:18] Suburban Development

[14:20] Corporation owns a subsidiary

[14:22] company, Iron Gate Data

[14:24] Centers, which also owns

[14:26] Woodbury Capital llc, which is

[14:28] the registered agent of Eagan

[14:30] Capital llc, which is the

[14:31] identified property owner

[14:33] within Dakota County. Property

[14:36] records. In 2002, City Council

[14:39] directed staff to initiate a

[14:42] land use study of three parcels

[14:44] around Eagan Central Park in

[14:47] the sec. Two of those parcels

[14:49] were included as the Unisys

[14:51] property and the former Delta

[14:53] Airlines property. As well as

[14:56] the former Argosy University

[14:58] property. What resulted in that

[15:01] was the Northwest Central

[15:03] Common Small Area Plan. That

[15:05] basically envisioned envisioned

[15:07] redevelopment primarily for the

[15:09] two properties located north of

[15:11] Central Park. The Delta

[15:13] property or Central Park West,

[15:14] as it was later called in the

[15:16] study, primarily identified a

[15:17] mix of residential land use

[15:20] types. The Unisys property, or

[15:22] later termed the Central Park

[15:24] East, within the plan,

[15:25] identified a mix of both

[15:26] residential and commercial land

[15:28] uses. Given the proximity and

[15:32] access to Pilot Knob Road. So

[15:33] as part of the proposal in

[15:35] FEBRUARY, staff inspected the

[15:36] property after receiving

[15:37] numerous noise complaints and

[15:39] noted that there were three

[15:41] trailer chillers on the west

[15:44] northwest side of the property.

[15:46] Staff informed the owner that

[15:47] an interim use permit was

[15:49] needed for any outdoor storage

[15:51] occurring on the property. The

[15:53] initial iup application

[15:55] included three portable

[15:55] chillers. However, the

[15:57] applicant modified the request

[15:59] to add a fourth chiller,

[16:00] delaying the initial scheduled

[16:02] public hearing that was

[16:04] scheduled in MARCH. The four

[16:06] temporary chillers are located

[16:07] on the northwest corner of the

[16:09] building, and comprise of

[16:11] trained 500 ton air cooled

[16:13] attack units. As you can see on

[16:15] the larger site plan, they

[16:16] re

[16:18] located here on this kind of

[16:20] west northwest portion of the

[16:21] site. I

[16:22] m just going to zoom in

[16:24] here. According to the

[16:25] applicant

[16:25] s narrative, the

[16:26] existing chillers on the roof

[16:28] of the building quote had

[16:30] reached their end of their

[16:32] useful life and need to be

[16:34] replaced in order to ensure

[16:36] continuous cooling of to the

[16:38] facility and interruption and

[16:39] cooling service would

[16:41] materially affect the operation

[16:43] of the facility. The use of the

[16:44] temporary chillers would

[16:46] provide required chilling for

[16:48] the use of the data center. The

[16:50] applicant notes three of the

[16:51] four chillers could run

[16:52] simultaneously for up to 24

[16:54] hours per day, depending on

[16:55] weather and the number of

[16:57] servers in use. The fourth

[16:59] chiller is intended for backup

[17:00] only, and would operate in the

[17:02] event of one of the three.

[17:04] Chillers were to fail. The

[17:06] chiller set, a, a standard 53

[17:09] foot flatbed trailer with

[17:11] mechanical operations exposed

[17:12] to the open. Here

[17:14] s a diagram

[17:15] that was included both within

[17:18] the narrative and within the

[17:20] noise study that was provided

[17:21] to Council as part of the

[17:24] packet. Here are some

[17:26] photographs taken on the

[17:29] property. Back in MARCH that

[17:30] show the chillers parked on

[17:33] their current locations. Prior

[17:35] to construction of the Noise

[17:37] Wall. As you can see in these

[17:39] photos, a lot of the mechanical

[17:41] machinery as part of these

[17:44] chillers are basically open.

[17:44] There isn

[17:45] t maybe a standard

[17:46] housing that

[17:48] s maybe covering

[17:49] basically the the operation of

[17:51] the mechanical machinery. As

[17:52] part of the chilling operation.

[17:55] So all of this is exposed. And

[17:56] these pictures were taken when

[17:58] there was only three chillers

[18:00] on the site. And not the fourth

[18:03] chiller. According to the

[18:04] narrative, the applicant

[18:06] anticipates new permanent

[18:07] chillers will be installed

[18:10] within 4 to 6 months. On APRIL

[18:11] 20th, the city received

[18:12] mechanical plans to install

[18:15] eight permanent chillers to be

[18:17] located slightly south of the

[18:20] temporary chiller location.

[18:21] That would be approximately in

[18:23] this location. Right now, as

[18:25] part of the building permit

[18:26] that

[18:26] s been submitted to the

[18:29] city. They show the chillers in

[18:30] a new courtyard or mechanical

[18:32] yard. Basically, within this

[18:37] area of the of the property.

[18:38] From the end of FEBRUARY

[18:40] through the beginning, it was

[18:41] part of the noise mitigation

[18:42] and code enforcement. City

[18:44] staff requested. The applicant

[18:45] provide a noise study. After

[18:47] receiving numerous complaints

[18:48] to evaluate the use of the

[18:51] temporary chillers. From the

[18:52] end of FEBRUARY through the

[18:53] beginning of APRIL, city staff

[18:55] received about a dozen noise

[18:56] complaints received relating to

[18:57] the noise generated from the

[18:59] site, primarily due to the

[19:02] operation of the chillers. City

[19:03] has adopted Minnesota Pollution

[19:05] Control Agency noise level

[19:06] standards as called out in

[19:10] state statutes. The initial esi

[19:11] engineering noise study that

[19:14] was provided to staff. And

[19:15] here

[19:16] s the Minnesota Pollution

[19:17] Control noise standards that

[19:21] are basically adopted in code.

[19:24] As part of state statutes. So

[19:26] the esi engineering noise study

[19:28] that was provided in MARCH did

[19:31] demonstrate upon their analysis

[19:33] that noise generated from the

[19:36] chillers would exceed basically,

[19:38] those shown in red would

[19:39] exceed. Basically the noise

[19:42] standards both within the l ten

[19:45] and the l 50 levels. As noted

[19:50] within the MPCa requirements.

[19:52] So all of those numbers that

[19:53] are shown in red, that

[19:55] basically shows that there is

[19:56] those chillers would basically

[19:58] be violating those MPCa

[19:59] standards. So it was their

[20:02] recommendation that a 20 foot

[20:04] temporary noise wall should be

[20:05] constructed on the property to

[20:08] provide that noise mitigation

[20:09] or attenuation of that noise in

[20:11] order to reach those reach

[20:16] those standards. So city staff

[20:18] received an updated noise study

[20:19] conducted the weekend before

[20:23] the apec meeting last week. And

[20:23] here

[20:25] s the basically the noise

[20:27] wall. So the basically

[20:29] scaffolding was built around

[20:32] the three fourths of the

[20:33] perimeter. Basically that north

[20:36] side facing the residential

[20:38] land uses. And here

[20:40] s a 3d

[20:41] rendering showing that

[20:43] scaffolding. This shows

[20:45] basically those panels being

[20:47] applied or basically affixed to

[20:49] that scaffolding to provide

[20:53] that attenuation to the north.

[20:54] And here

[20:54] s just a different

[20:57] angle. So that scaffolding what

[20:59] did mt city standards. And

[21:00] they did provide additional

[21:02] information basically to meet

[21:04] when load requirements. And so

[21:06] so the state did issue a

[21:08] building permit basically to

[21:09] address a lot of the noise in

[21:11] the complaints that were

[21:12] received from some of the

[21:15] residents. And then these are

[21:17] the panels that basically are

[21:17] affixed to that, that

[21:21] scaffolding. So following the

[21:25] construction of t noise wall,

[21:26] Issi engineering did go out and

[21:29] complete a follow up noise

[21:32] udy. Basically indating

[21:35] that now the numbers basically

[21:38] taken during one point in tim

[21:41] on Ail 25th, in the mide of

[21:42] morning. I do wan to note that

[21:44] it was from 3 a.M to abo 4

[21:46] m.,hich is the more

[21:48] stringent noi standar from

[21:50] the MPCa tt basically the

[21:53] noise mitigation haseen

[21:56] achiedor the site. With the

[21:57] plication of that, that noise

[22:00] wall, a couple of other things

[22:02] that staff jus want to point

[22:03] out with this report again,

[22:05] that this was just a single

[22:08] point in time. On Apr 25th,

[22:09] between the hours of

[22:12] essentially 3 a.M and A.M.

[22:13] And the tperature a that

[22:14] me was 48 degrees, a noted

[22:17] within the whin the noise

[22:19] study itself.He evaluation

[22:20] did not iicate indicate how

[22:22] many chillers wer in operati

[22:24] at the time of the noise

[22:26] reading. And staff doe note

[22:27] that operation of the chiers

[22:29] is partly dependent on the

[22:31] ily temperature,umidity

[22:32] levels, and the number of

[22:33] serversn operationt the

[22:37] ti. To name a few facto.

[22:38] Included in the conditions of

[22:40] the ipi does allow for flow

[22:41] up nse monoring and

[22:44] evaluation by esa esi

[22:46] engineing, as detmined by

[22:51] city staff. City has issued

[22:54] viation lettersnd received

[22:57] an issued citation. To the

[22:59] applicant. And theepresenting

[23:02] agent, Eagan Capit llc

[23:03] citing violaon of the Noise

[23:05] Pollution regulations and work

[23:07] thout a pert. That cition

[23:09] is crentlyending at Dota

[23:16] County Crt. S as part of the

[23:17] zong analysis, there are two

[23:19] land use consideration before

[23:23] council One,he iep request

[23:25] self. And then whatas come

[23:28] up durin staff review and ap

[23:30] consideration is the land use

[23:32] and complnce with city. City

[23:35] zoning. So as indicated, the

[23:38] opertys zoned Ad reseah

[23:39] and development, wch t

[23:41] intent of that zon distrt is

[23:42] for professnalesearch and

[23:44] developmen and lited

[23:45] industrial structure and

[23:47] operatio, which wl be

[23:48] compatib wit the

[23:50] prominantly residential

[23:51] aracter ofhe surrounding

[23:53] areas so as to preserve for the

[23:55] residentsf the city the full

[23:56] use, benit and enjoyment of

[23:59] their homesnd property. Tt

[24:01] is a description taken from

[24:02] city ce ofhe zon

[24:06] distct. Lited iustrial

[24:07] structures are allowed in the d

[24:09] zone onl I conjunction with

[24:10] research and development

[24:12] laboratories and agriculral

[24:14] tivitiesssociated with

[24:16] resear a development,

[24:17] neither o which is currently

[24:19] ocrring within withi the

[24:22] building. Dataenters are n

[24:24] explicit listed asermitted.

[24:26] Accessory use, nor are they

[24:28] listed as permitted primaryse

[24:30] or principal use. Pt of the

[24:33] reason why the city ultimately

[24:35] implemented the moratorm. The

[24:37] primar u a the

[24:38] predominantly and predomint

[24:40] occupancy of the building has

[24:42] been as anffice. The Unisys

[24:44] data center, or comter center

[24:46] was consided as an accesso

[24:48] to the priry use o the

[24:50] office. Based on zoning

[24:53] definition,s neither the

[24:54] evious nor current property

[24:56] owne has requested a changen

[24:58] land use or zonin The primary

[25:00] use of t site rains. Office.

[25:03] Accessory uses must occupy no

[25:05] more than 4 of the building

[25:06] s

[25:07] squa footage.Er zong

[25:11] code. And thatccessory uses

[25:13] st be rsonably necessary

[25:14] and incidtal to t conduct

[25:17] the prima or mn use of

[25:20] the buiing. Staff did

[25:22] estimate basally the amot

[25:23] of sque footage within t

[25:23] building. That

[25:24] s basical

[25:27] dedicated f data centers or

[25:28] the mechanical rooms supportg

[25:30] the dataenters. At

[25:31] apoximately 46% of t

[25:34] overall squareootagef the

[25:36] building. That does include the

[25:37] raed floor area for the

[25:39] server Also, the mechacal

[25:41] roomhat help operate the

[25:44] ta center. However the

[25:45] office portion o the building,

[25:47] on fullyccupied by Usys

[25:49] employee is nowntirely

[25:51] vacant. Save for a small area

[25:53] for dedicated staff responsle

[25:54] forhe operation of the data

[25:56] center Additiolly, the

[25:57] property owner hasiven no

[25:59] indication totaff of Re

[26:01] occupying t offic portion of

[26:02] theuilding, thus making t

[26:04] data cenr therincipal use

[26:07] the property. The IEPust

[26:09] meet the perfoance standards

[26:12] for outdoor storage. But also

[26:14] the revw critea for the iep

[26:15] and additiona standar for

[26:18] granting a conditional use. The

[26:21] p standds can generally are

[26:23] generally he been met, say,

[26:24] for criteria number five that

[26:28] references the c standards

[26:30] which rd the use meets the

[26:32] stdards set forth in t

[26:33] zoningegulations here in

[26:34] verningonditional use

[26:37] permits. A part ofhat Cop

[26:39] review criria. Nber one

[26:40] states that itill not b

[26:42] detrimenta to or endanger the

[26:46] public healt. Rea in part.

[26:48] Also, the cp riew critea

[26:51] ates that the use will also

[26:53] use not involvectivities,

[26:54] press merials, equipnt,

[26:57] and condition of operation.

[26:59] Thatill be detrimental to t

[27:01] general welfare bause of

[27:02] excessive production ofraffic,

[27:05] noise, smoke fumes, glare or

[27:07] odors.O those are cerinly

[27:09] two criteria that cou be

[27:11] nsidered as part o t

[27:14] consideratn of the iep

[27:18] Tonight, partlyhe noise wall

[27:20] does help mitigate some of the

[27:22] noise attenuaon. Meeting the

[27:24] MPCa standards However, it

[27:25] s

[27:27] been notic tha ooing noise

[27:29] and vibration that maybe meet

[27:31] mpa standards MAY still

[27:33] continue toasically impac or

[27:35] afct srounding residents,

[27:36] even thoug thathose

[27:38] stanrds, those are meeting

[27:41] the mpc standards So at the

[27:42] Advisory Planningommission o

[27:44] Apri 28th, during the public

[27:47] hearing, the public comment,

[27:48] there were publi comments from

[27:50] 14 of the appximately 50

[27:51] residents in aendance at

[27:54] nit.He primary concern

[27:55] we the continuous nse

[27:57] levels and impact ofuality o

[27:59] life, constant vibration and

[28:01] hum of equipnt, future gwth

[28:02] of the data center along wh

[28:05] future site improvements.

[28:06] Questionsf appropriateoning

[28:08] for data centers and the

[28:09] environmental impacts relat

[28:12] to the operation o the dat

[28:15] ceer. So the apc ultimately

[28:17] voted to recommend denial on a

[28:19] six yr old ve of the iep.

[28:21] After an initial vote to

[28:23] approv the iep fled and a

[28:26] one five vote. They cited the

[28:27] followin findings.

[28:28] Insuicient information

[28:30] regarding future plans for the

[28:32] site. Noise impaco

[28:33] surroundg residents and

[28:35] pact touality of life.

[28:36] Imcts and surroding

[28:38] residential areas are

[28:39] inconsistent wh the

[28:41] Coitional u Permit

[28:42] requirement that the pposal

[28:44] will quote, will not be

[28:46] trimental to or endanger the

[28:47] public health, safetyr

[28:49] genera welfare of the

[28:51] neighborhood ority. And

[28:52] finally, tha the use does not

[28:54] pear to be consistent wit

[28:55] the r d zonin and therefore

[28:57] doesot meet the cup

[28:59] requirement that the proposal

[29:00] will bearmonious wit the

[29:03] general and applicable specific

[29:05] objectives of t Comprehensive

[29:06] Plan in the city code

[29:08] provision. So wit that, will

[29:10] conclude. I doant to not

[29:14] at that the date, action date

[29:16] deadline, which wasot part of

[29:20] thour memo is JUNE 17th of

[29:22] this year. So noticed that

[29:23] that did not make theover

[29:25] memo, but that is the action

[29:26] deadline for tonight

[29:32] s iep.

[29:34] Judging by the volum of

[29:36] docuntation tt the

[29:39] apicantubmitted yesteay

[29:40] afternoon, assume you want t

[30:12] add to tha presentation.

[30:14] MR. MAY,embersf the

[30:15] counl. My nam is Micha

[30:16] Maulies. I

[30:17] m with Newton Rez

[30:18] ll and I

[30:21] m here on behalf of

[30:23] Aeon Cital, whichs the

[30:26] owner o the property. There

[30:27] s

[30:29] been a lot of infortion

[30:31] presend t theo the to the

[30:35] ci, bot from staff and from

[30:37] Ian Cital. And there

[30:39] s goi

[30:40] to be lot ofiscussion.

[30:42] Presumably on a on a numr of

[30:43] topics tight. But

[30:44] d like to

[30:45] I

[30:46] d like to focus on several

[30:49] issues. The first issue is that

[30:53] this propert has bn and has

[30:55] always been a data center. It

[30:58] was opened as a data center. It

[31:00] was orated as aata center.

[31:01] If you loo at the cerficates

[31:03] of occupancyor this prorty,

[31:04] theirst thing that you see on

[31:06] them is a computer center or

[31:11] dataenter. We seriously and

[31:13] strongly disagree with the

[31:15] suggestion that this I an

[31:17] accessory u ton office. We

[31:19] think that theccessoryse

[31:22] designation has been grafted on

[31:27] to the. To the tohe

[31:29] situatn. And think tt if

[31:31] yo look at the hisry o the

[31:32] wa that this prorty has been

[31:34] used, it has consistently and

[31:39] and andlways been use as a,

[31:43] as a dataenter. That said,

[31:44] even if you were to u an

[31:47] accessory applicaon, iteets

[31:49] it meets that, it meets tha

[31:52] test. The second thinghat I

[31:53] d

[31:56] like to focus on is tt the

[31:59] considerion tonight isor an

[32:01] interim use pmit. You

[32:02] reave

[32:03] a number of pple here who are

[32:05] ing to talk to you about

[32:07] eir concerns. And, and w

[32:09] sharehe concerns thathey

[32:12] have about how the impacts of

[32:14] dataentersnd,nd a

[32:15] sinesses on the community.

[32:17] And I know that t city has

[32:20] city council, h passed a

[32:21] moratorium. And the next year

[32:22] u

[32:23] re going toearn a lot

[32:24] about data centers and how the

[32:28] operat Tonight,hough, I

[32:29] want to underscehat the

[32:30] on issue that we

[32:31] re really

[32:32] talking abouts whethern

[32:35] interim ierim use permit

[32:37] shou be granted Now, there

[32:39] e a lot ofopics about the

[32:40] goods a the bads and the

[32:42] pluses andinuses of data

[32:44] centers.Nd that

[32:45] s not really

[32:47] the the topic for the

[32:49] diussion tonight. Beyond

[32:50] that, which applies to the

[32:56] interim useermit. Whe w

[32:58] wa to talk a ltle bit abo

[33:00] thehillers for aecond, the

[33:04] chlers are water bed

[33:05] chillers on top of the

[33:08] ilding,nd they hav end

[33:10] their the useful life. Wn

[33:13] we applied for an pertor

[33:17] th for the mechanical permit

[33:19] at the end of DECEMBER for the

[33:21] interior of the building to

[33:23] reace somef the chiller

[33:24] lines there, we recognid that

[33:27] the chillerines going up to

[33:28] the rftop chierseren

[33:29] t

[33:30] going to work,nd the rooft

[33:31] chillers had had rched the

[33:32] end of their usel life.

[33:34] Sorry. Can you rept that?

[33:37] Realid that the rooftop

[33:39] chillers had reach the end of

[33:40] their life. As we were srting

[33:46] to work on the the. Interior

[33:47] improvemen.

[33:48] Okay.

[33:49] When was that?

[33:50] I apologize.

[33:51] As weere as we were working

[33:52] on the interior improvements.

[33:53] Thank you.

[33:55] N you can you speak up?

[33:56] Okay.

[33:57] M sorry.

[33:58] Than you.

[34:02] The Chiller that were

[34:04] installed in the on the on the

[34:05] rotop of the building are old

[34:07] styl chillers. Been thereor

[34:09] a lg time. Theyse

[34:12] approximatel.4 million

[34:15] gallons of water a year. 2.4

[34:19] million gallo of water.

[34:20] The

[34:21] s much more. Better

[34:23] modern technolognd t

[34:25] decision was made to rlace

[34:27] those chiller y had had to

[34:28] reace them. And what the

[34:29] questi was, what weere

[34:30] going t place them with, going

[34:31] to replacehem with a closed

[34:32] system that doesn

[34:33] t use water,

[34:35] it use refrigerant. And

[34:36] basically, oe the

[34:37] re filled,

[34:39] us no water at all. We

[34:40] ve

[34:43] bmitted into theecord a

[34:45] report from council or from a

[34:48] fr appropriate engineer that

[34:50] certifies tt instead of using

[34:52] 4 o 2.7 million galns o

[34:54] water year, this will

[34:55] bacally use no water here.

[34:57] It

[34:58] s a good and smart

[35:00] environmenta choice to make.

[35:02] When w instaed those

[35:04] chillers, we didn

[35:05] t belve we

[35:06] needed a pert. Thereasn

[35:07] t

[35:08] an electrical permit. There

[35:09] wasn

[35:11] t a mechacal permit to

[35:13] be had Staff tolds that we

[35:18] needed an iup. We dagree to

[35:20] so extent. Not toome

[35:23] extente disage tha aup

[35:26] isctually called for her

[35:29] en we looke at the statutory

[35:31] language that it permits the

[35:32] overnight stora of

[35:35] rchandise, splies,

[35:37] mateals, fished goods or

[35:39] inventory, o other movable

[35:42] propty o motor vehicles

[35:43] doesn

[35:45] t really fit that

[35:46] definition. These are

[35:49] mechanical stems tha serve

[35:50] the building. The

[35:52] re not

[35:53] finished goods on a pallet.

[35:54] Th

[35:55] re not truck being parked

[35:57] overnit.Nd Ihink weave

[35:58] the right and the ality to

[35:59] matain the electrical and

[36:01] mechanical systems of the

[36:04] building. Nonheless, within

[36:06] days after receiving aotice

[36:09] from the planng deptment

[36:11] that theyhought an iup was

[36:13] necessary. Wepplied for one

[36:15] an w provided the cit all

[36:16] the informaon tt the city

[36:18] aske for,ncluding

[36:20] eliminary noise studies. And

[36:22] when the noi studies came

[36:23] back as pnner, Sultz sai

[36:26] th the initial noise studies

[36:27] were bas upon the tecical

[36:30] specificatio of t train

[36:32] illers thatere goingo be

[36:34] that were goi to be inslled

[36:35] evenefore the chiers run

[36:38] on.N place, andhose

[36:40] suested that we would excd

[36:42] least the nighttime

[36:46] standards imposed by the Ma.

[36:50] As a rult,e desned a

[36:52] und barrier, a to support

[36:54] the sound barrier, we

[36:57] established scaffolding. Sff

[36:58] asd for us to get a

[36:59] mechanical eineer, a

[37:01] structur enginr, toeport

[37:03] on the strucral nature of the

[37:05] scaffolding. We did that. W

[37:08] installed the we install the

[37:10] chillers, we installed the

[37:11] scaffolding, we installed the

[37:14] sound barrier a then we had

[37:16] si, the snd eineer, go

[37:18] out and do actlesting. As

[37:22] planner, Schtz said. And the

[37:23] report that

[37:25] s in you file

[37:30] indicates that that the noise

[37:33] standards are being met. We

[37:34] don

[37:36] have anyther evidence

[37:37] that the noise standards are

[37:40] not beingdhered to. We have

[37:42] prided the city the evince

[37:47] and the and the expertnalysis

[37:48] at they

[37:50] ve asked for. If the

[37:51] city has other tesng that

[37:52] they

[37:54] ve asked us to want u to

[37:55] do, we wld certainly comply

[37:56] with tha But w believe that

[37:58] the testi in good faith shows

[38:00] at the that the nse

[38:02] standards standards are bei

[38:06] sasfied. The other thing I

[38:07] nt to emphasize I the report

[38:12] that the sff provided. Lis

[38:14] all the standards tt needo

[38:18] be satisfied in oer for the

[38:20] interim use pmit to be to be

[38:22] issued. And you

[38:23] notice that

[38:25] onach one o them,taff

[38:26] indicated that the standard had

[38:30] been met,nd we still take the

[38:31] posion that the standards

[38:32] have been met a we hav

[38:33] t

[38:35] en anything to the conary.

[38:38] And we belie that. On t

[38:39] basis of the ft that this

[38:41] operty is being operated

[38:44] within the zoning code,

[38:46] regaless of whether or not

[38:47] you call it an aessory, use

[38:49] or acknowledge that it

[38:50] s been

[38:51] used f mor than 40 years as

[38:53] a data cente and tha allhe

[38:55] technil requirements with

[38:57] respecto the chiller hav

[38:59] been met We ask that this

[39:02] permit be issd. What we

[39:03] re

[39:05] going to doith the future

[39:06] with respect to a permanent

[39:07] chillers which are uer

[39:09] consideration for pmit, I

[39:10] ink is a discussion for a

[39:13] diffent day.Hether these

[39:16] whethe thisataenter, which

[39:18] probably conforms to the or

[39:19] which does conform to the

[39:21] moratorium exctions, is going

[39:25] to be part of your ovell data

[39:26] nter construct. Tt

[39:28] s

[39:29] somethingor the Cityouncil

[39:31] to take ups part as par of

[39:32] its discussion, alysisf

[39:34] da centers generally. So we

[39:36] d

[39:37] like to foc tonig onhe

[39:39] iup and believe that we

[39:40] ve

[39:41] satisfied the in good faith,

[39:43] the cit

[39:44] s standards for the

[39:46] issuce ofhat permit. I

[39:47] m

[39:48] happy to stand for any

[39:50] questions. And also with me

[39:51] tonight, I should add, is

[39:53] Howard Ralston from

[39:54] Fredickson, who was actings

[39:56] legal counsel f usonight.

[39:57] Both he and I will be happy to

[39:58] answer any questionshat you

[40:00] ve.

[40:02] Ank you. Michael Council.

[40:03] I

[40:05] ll have some. I

[40:06] m sure that

[40:07] yo will alsoave som as

[40:09] well. But queions of the

[40:12] applicant or sta and if it

[40:14] s

[40:15] okay, Micha, I

[40:17] ll, I

[40:18] ll srt

[40:20] withou. I

[40:21] ll tryo refer to

[40:22] you as Mhael and to him as

[40:24] Miker MR. Schtz. We

[40:30] figure it o. But. MAY I

[40:32] kind ofant to go bk and

[40:33] stt at the beginning Perps

[40:37] I. Sufficeo say, w

[40:38] re at a

[40:40] irly ntraditional pho

[40:43] th meeting tonig. Fairmont

[40:47] of confuon in details. In the

[40:49] preding mths. And that was

[40:51] evident in my viewing of thef

[40:54] th apec meeting as well. And

[40:56] partularly challenging is

[40:57] piecing togetherome of the

[41:01] timelines of events. So I

[41:03] m

[41:04] going to ask youo maybeust

[41:06] start at the beginning. And how

[41:11] does. Egan capital llc guess

[41:16] it is come to the purchase of

[41:19] this blding. And and to

[41:22] purchase theuilding and and

[41:25] it closed in Novber. I assume

[41:26] there was some ierest

[41:27] previous t that. Can you tell

[41:28] me abo that,bout jus that

[41:29] process ofcquiring the

[41:32] propty? And what whathelc

[41:34] was interesdn acquiring a

[41:36] what was the business being

[41:37] transferred fromomewhere els?

[41:40] Or if you can kin of start

[41:41] there, guess, ande

[41:43] ll try

[41:44] to sort this out a littl bit.

[41:45] MR. Mayor, I

[41:47] ll try and answer

[41:48] the questns as best I can

[41:52] Egan capital and its affiltes

[41:54] have an intest I iron gate

[41:56] data centers, which areata

[41:57] nters that operate elsewhere

[42:02] inhe Twinities. Okay. Egan

[42:05] catal was aware thathis was

[42:07] beingperated as a data

[42:14] center. Unisysad it for sale.

[42:16] Unisys was operatedrimarily

[42:17] as a data center. Wn we

[42:19] bought I there were very few

[42:20] employees, ver few office

[42:26] functions. W met the offer and

[42:28] closed o it in Novber. Okay.

[42:30] And and intend to use I as a

[42:32] data center going forwa.

[42:34] Than you.

[42:37] And I assume that.

[42:38] And MAY.

[42:40] I.

[42:41] MAY I interrupt one time? I

[42:43] apologize.Ot onlyo we

[42:44] tend to opete it. Wee are

[42:46] operatg it, and we hav a

[42:49] tent who h occupied the

[42:50] propertynd who has invted a

[42:52] significant amount of money in

[42:54] the servers that go into the

[42:56] preparatn of a data cenr.

[42:59] As has as has Egan Capital. So.

[43:01] Okay.

[43:04] An so you have one tenant.

[43:05] One tenant.

[43:06] Okay.

[43:08] Thank you.

[43:09] And whi isot unusual for

[43:11] data centers.

[43:14] Understandle. And a you as

[43:15] as you can capital I don

[43:17] t mean

[43:18] to say y, but you

[43:21] representing them. So a as

[43:22] you conside the purase. I

[43:23] assume you d the usuue

[43:24] ligence behd the purase.

[43:26] Ke this.

[43:27] I yes, I think tha

[43:28] s a correct

[43:30] assumpon.

[43:31] Okay. So.

[43:32] Sowo lels ofue diligence

[43:38] I guess. Well, maybe three.

[43:40] It

[43:41] s par of the the confusion

[43:44] r me is that this project

[43:47] cos through a couple of

[43:50] different pathways thare

[43:53] fairly nontraditiona from wt

[43:58] we ordinary would see. A the

[43:59] the and I

[44:01] ll get to it. B

[44:03] th the back a forth about

[44:05] putting outdoor storage

[44:07] chillers in place a operating

[44:10] them befe havg the permit

[44:13] is non-traditional to be my

[44:18] kindest. And and the fact and

[44:20] usually with a with a a

[44:21] buildi purpose auilding

[44:24] purchase this lar and a

[44:26] building that has some fairly

[44:27] high profi in the communi.

[44:28] I mean, it was a focus o a

[44:31] fairly focused publi vioning

[44:35] process. I was caut up in

[44:36] our city

[44:38] s general conces

[44:41] about the officearket. It was

[44:44] in all the papers.Ute would

[44:46] uslly with a building that a

[44:48] a a an investment tha large,

[44:49] usually deal woun

[44:51] t close

[44:56] until the Until the pchaser

[44:58] t the legal entitlements that

[44:59] they needed.Ou

[45:01] d do a

[45:02] contingent purpose or

[45:04] contingent purchase.Nd most

[45:07] projects in Ean come that

[45:09] way. And this is the first time

[45:10] that yr client is aually

[45:12] talking wh the city council

[45:14] or putting in applicatis wit

[45:16] the city.Orrect.

[45:17] Ielieveo. Well, tre MAY

[45:19] have been, other thanhe

[45:21] mechanal pmits that were

[45:22] requested after welosed.

[45:24] Righ

[45:26] But I mea you haven

[45:27] t

[45:29] bmitted anyand use

[45:30] applicatns or any plan

[45:32] developmen or anything le

[45:33] that tohis council to

[45:35] consider and toass on to

[45:37] ensure that you would hav the

[45:39] entlements to u the

[45:41] property the way that you

[45:43] wanted to.Orrect.

[45:45] MR. Mayor, respectfully, we

[45:47] believe thathe property is

[45:48] zoned.

[45:50] I

[45:52] m not

[45:54] m not askg what you

[45:55] believ I

[45:57] m askg what

[45:58] s

[46:00] happened.

[46:02] Did n.

[46:04] Okay.

[46:06] Forhat reason, we d not.

[46:07] I appreciat that, so. So you

[46:09] purchased the building.Ithout

[46:10] any contingt. Contient on

[46:11] on. On on entlements.

[46:13] Corrt.

[46:14] i can

[46:16] t speak to what the

[46:17] contingencies in the purchase

[46:19] agreemt were.

[46:20] Ca you.

[46:21] Te me theeal has closed?

[46:23] Correct. It I

[46:25] Okay.

[46:26] You didn

[46:28] t pureny

[46:29] additionalntitlementso the

[46:30] to the property? Correct

[46:32] That is correct.

[46:34] Okay.

[46:35] D your side, inhe due

[46:36] diligence. Your client. I

[46:37] assume, having been having had

[46:39] this propert involve inome

[46:40] fair largeommunity

[46:41] conversatis. You did the due

[46:42] diligenc to loo at what the

[46:44] guiding a t zoning was on

[46:45] the propertyhat you were

[46:47] purchasing.

[46:48] I tnk you can make that

[46:50] assumption. Yeah.

[46:51] Okay. I

[46:53] m not. I

[46:54] m asking you

[46:55] not if you think I can make

[46:57] that assumptio Did you look

[46:58] into the entlements?

[46:59] I

[47:01] I

[47:02] m cerinhat that Eden

[47:04] Capital looked at how the

[47:05] operty was zoned and how it

[47:06] was being used.

[47:07] I

[47:09] m sor. How was how my

[47:10] qution was guided and zoned.

[47:11] Did y look into that?

[47:12] How was guided and how it was

[47:14] zoned? And as it affected the

[47:15] intended use o the property?

[47:16] Allight. So you cite the

[47:17] certificate of occupcy as the

[47:18] the leading indicator that it

[47:19] s

[47:20] a data center,orrect?

[47:22] s. From 1987 and 198

[47:24] And I. Jus for tho in the

[47:26] room who who don

[47:27] t follow these

[47:28] kis of things, what is thi

[47:30] certifice of oupancy.

[47:32] Certify. What is it? What is it

[47:33] entitle.?

[47:35] The certificaf occupancy

[47:38] indicated that the standards

[47:40] for oration,or openi and

[47:42] conductingusiness ashey

[47:46] exted in 1987, 1988, were

[47:47] met.

[47:49] From aut from a from a but

[47:50] it

[47:52] s from building code is a

[47:53] ceificate of occupancy. It

[47:54] ceifies that the space can be

[47:56] safely occupie Well it peopl

[47:58] correct.

[48:00] Yes. But the relevance please.

[48:01] I

[48:03] llsk the question to your

[48:05] mind. So in real estate terms

[48:07] or landse terms, is a

[48:09] certifate of occancy a

[48:10] certicate of occupancy. The

[48:11] ntrollingocument on ld

[48:14] useesignations.

[48:15] Don

[48:17] t kw the answe to

[48:18] that. I know how theity

[48:19] referred to it. The city called

[48:21] it a dat cente City cald

[48:22] it computer center.

[48:24] And I

[48:25] m not. I

[48:26] mot asking you

[48:27] what it was called in the

[48:28] cuments. I

[48:30] m askingou, does

[48:31] a cerficate ofccupancy? Is

[48:32] that the controlli document

[48:35] to allable or d allowab

[48:37] land uses?

[48:38] It maye part o the record of

[48:40] it.

[48:41] Okay,

[48:43] ll pause here.R. City

[48:45] attorn, what

[48:46] s the

[48:47] controlling document on land

[48:49] use entitlements?

[48:50] MR. MAY, the lan use

[48:51] entitlements would be the

[48:53] corehensive gde plannd

[48:54] the uerlying zing.

[48:56] And with the certificate

[48:57] docunts, do youave anything

[48:59] to do wh entitling ld use?

[49:00] No, MR. Mayor.

[49:01] Thankou, I appreate tha

[49:04] So we have a disagreent.

[49:05] Understandle.Hat

[49:07] s fine. In

[49:08] term of the d diligence o

[49:12] theroperty. A one of the

[49:14] question I had was your your

[49:16] your tent I currentoing

[49:18] business. Yes As a data

[49:21] center And and was that

[49:23] business transfeed in ors

[49:25] thatew business fromhen you

[49:27] acquired theuilding?

[49:29] Well, Unisys owned the

[49:30] building

[49:32] I uerstand

[49:33] That.

[49:34] Unisys is no longer operating

[49:36] there. I don

[49:37] t I

[49:38] m not sure I

[49:40] understa the questio MR.

[49:41] Mayor.

[49:42] Did your your operating a

[49:44] business So yououou you

[49:45] cled on the busins and

[49:46] starte to be able to use it in

[49:47] NOVEMBER?

[49:49] We we csedn the propey

[49:50] and have leased it to a to a

[49:51] new operator.

[49:52] Okay.

[49:54] Soefore that tre was no use

[49:58] going on in there. Aside from

[50:00] what whathe entled uses

[50:02] were. But ts is a new start

[50:03] up busins. You bght it with

[50:04] the intention of starting to

[50:05] erate it a a data center.

[50:07] Starting in when.

[50:09] I disagree with theay you

[50:12] posed t question. T data

[50:15] center was a operation Da

[50:18] center is still in operation.

[50:20] Okay Is the client the same?

[50:22] The the parties opeting it

[50:23] are not theame because the

[50:25] ownershiphanged.

[50:26] Okay. I

[50:27] .

[50:28] Ll leave this off

[50:29] to the side. Good idea. In the.

[50:30] In the in the way of due

[50:34] diligence. What? What level of

[50:36] spection did y do on the

[50:37] existing coors in the

[50:39] builng?

[50:40] I don

[50:41] t know the answer to

[50:42] that.

[50:43] Okay, I

[50:44] m.

[50:45] I

[50:46] m assuming tha. I

[50:47] m assuming

[50:50] at the that Eag was aware

[50:52] of t condition ofhe

[50:52] builng generally.

[50:54] And whoas that?

[50:56] Eagan capital.

[50:57] Thank you.

[50:58] Was aware o theeneral

[51:00] condition of the propey and

[51:01] at needed to be done.

[51:02] Okay.

[51:04] So a we auminghat whene

[51:06] came in, there was a plan to

[51:08] bring coolers in, oras the

[51:09] a disvery or that of t

[51:11] desireo replace the cooling

[51:14] syem different from tim of

[51:15] operationo time of purchase?

[51:16] I

[51:17] m not sure I know the answer

[51:18] to that queion.Y

[51:19] undetanding is me the

[51:21] latter tt I wasperating

[51:25] fine unt w started to make

[51:26] repas and improvents

[51:27] interior, and then the

[51:29] recognition that the cllers

[51:31] re n goingo beave as

[51:32] long a le as as oginally

[51:33] anticipad.

[51:34] So going into this purchase,

[51:35] ther wasn

[51:36] t any inspection of

[51:37] e system beforand or any

[51:39] vision off what we

[51:40] ll do with

[51:41] this outdated, outmoded.

[51:42] System.

[51:44] That

[51:45] sot a corct statement

[51:46] think there w discussn

[51:47] about what thatystem looked

[51:48] like. I don

[51:49] think tt we

[51:50] were ultimatelorrectn how

[51:51] longhat system was goi to

[51:54] be funionally operable.

[51:58] Okay. So.

[51:59] I

[52:00] ll fast forward to that. To

[52:01] the introduction, I

[52:02] trying to

[52:03] figure out t timeline here

[52:05] between thecquisition of the

[52:08] building and the decision to

[52:12] put in what at the time were,

[52:13] let

[52:14] s say, new cllers,

[52:16] correct.

[52:18] Ne pmanent chillersere on

[52:19] order.

[52:21] An when was the decisn? Whe

[52:23] was I so new pmanent

[52:25] chillers weren ord.

[52:27] Correct. And is tt the the

[52:28] th chillers that are the

[52:30] subjt now of a separate

[52:31] application?

[52:33] Yes, sir. Okay.

[52:34] When was theecision. Wn

[52:35] were ty put on ord?

[52:36] I don

[52:37] tnow the ansr to

[52:38] that. Okay. We can certainly

[52:39] find thator you if.

[52:40] You

[52:41] d like.O. Tha

[52:42] s fine.

[52:47] So before. Before t temrary

[52:49] chille were put in. Because

[52:50] that was the first tng that

[52:51] th was the first decision

[52:52] that w made, whichas we

[52:54] needed new w needed new

[52:56] chillers andhere to put them.

[53:00] Okay. Sourchased the buildin

[53:01] at some point. Come to t

[53:02] conclusion that the the t

[53:03] chilng systems going to

[53:05] need to be rlaced. So we

[53:06] re

[53:10] going to order. A set of new

[53:12] permanent chillers.Ut in the

[53:15] antime, instead of just

[53:15] waiting f those permane

[53:18] chillers to aive and totart

[53:19] upusiness, we

[53:20] reoing to go

[53:23] forward and put in tempora

[53:25] illers to replace aystem

[53:27] that has failed, as has has the

[53:29] old stem now ceased to be

[53:31] workingr ceased operation?

[53:34] It has been, yes. It

[53:35] sot

[53:36] operatingecause it

[53:37] s been

[53:38] converted over t the

[53:39] temporary.

[53:40] Okay. Okay. So in ord to so

[53:41] in order to replace that

[53:43] stem, you bring in four

[53:45] chille. You he more on back

[53:48] order, but you bring in four.

[53:50] And you startperatinghem.

[53:51] That

[53:53] s corct. Okay. And at

[53:54] the tim that you started

[53:56] operating them, did you did you

[53:57] think that you

[53:58] d ordered some

[54:01] sort of a superuiet chiller?

[54:02] That wasn

[54:03] toing to make a

[54:04] noisend wasn

[54:05] t gng to be of

[54:06] any concern?

[54:07] I don

[54:08] t know t answer to that.

[54:11] Why not come into theity and

[54:13] and checkhead of te? I

[54:14] would seem to me tt youeem

[54:15] like an intelligent person. If

[54:16] you

[54:17] re going tout a chiller

[54:18] on the outside, it

[54:19] s going to

[54:20] make som noise.Ou wouldn

[54:21] t.

[54:22] You wouldn

[54:23] think that maybe

[54:23] you should check I with the

[54:24] city to see if there

[54:25] s some

[54:26] so of standards that you need

[54:27] to go through, o some process

[54:28] you need too through.

[54:29] You know, I think, m Mayor,

[54:30] respectfully w were not aware

[54:31] th we needed thi permit.

[54:32] Once we were are of ts

[54:34] permit and all the city was

[54:36] aski. We jped on it

[54:38] imdiately and did evething

[54:40] the citysked u to do,

[54:42] includin pticularlyome

[54:43] ve significant andxtensive

[54:46] noise stues.

[54:50] Do I, y and I can

[54:53] digree on t on t o

[54:54] coort levels with that

[55:00] statement. Fr enough. Whyot

[55:04] act on the permanent chiers

[55:05] in advance If you knew tt?

[55:06] That

[55:07] s where we

[55:08] reoing the

[55:10] ole time. I, I

[55:11] m kin of

[55:12] baffled by this. Usually in the

[55:14] ornary cours you

[55:15] reoing

[55:16] to purche a property. You

[55:17] d

[55:18] purchase it on ctingency,

[55:19] you

[55:20] d go tohe city, y

[55:21] d

[55:22] say,e

[55:23] re going toave this

[55:24] iling cooling system. We

[55:24] re

[55:25] going toeed to add permanent

[55:26] coolero t system. And and

[55:28] you kw, we

[55:29] ll want t know

[55:30] whathe process is f adding

[55:32] that. Ande bui it all into

[55:35] the same process y insad

[55:37] are and by the w, y don

[55:39] t

[55:40] make the city awa ofhe

[55:41] permanen chillers a the

[55:43] permanent cller plans unt

[55:46] the mdle of Mch. Right.

[55:47] Think that

[55:50] s correct. Our our

[55:51] understanding was that the

[55:53] perment chillers a simply

[55:54] rt of theechanical sysm

[55:56] of the building. And at most,

[55:57] what w needed w a buiing

[55:59] permit. At most, what we need

[56:01] was a building permit too

[56:03] stall andonnect these. The

[56:05] replacemt chiers. We kept

[56:07] building pmitsll theime.

[56:09] The cy issues building

[56:10] permits all the time. It

[56:11] s not

[56:13] a land use permit. It

[56:14] s not a

[56:14] ning pert. It

[56:16] s auilding

[56:17] permit. It

[56:17] s an objective

[56:21] andard that the city city.

[56:22] Youon

[56:23] t look athe zoning,

[56:24] you don

[56:25] look at t zoning

[56:26] indications and realize, oh,

[56:27] shoot, there

[56:28] s something out o

[56:29] whack here because outdoor

[56:30] store isot allowedn major

[56:31] office resrch and

[56:32] development.

[56:33] Well we disagehat thiss

[56:36] outdr storage MR. Mayor.

[56:37] Okay.

[56:39] And the permant cllers are

[56:40] going to have wall around

[56:45] them. And if.

[56:47] I really, really quick

[56:48] question

[56:49] Yeah, yea I

[56:50] ll, I

[56:51] ll let.

[56:52] You take itn a dovetail on

[56:53] that. There was a building

[56:54] permit granted for the

[56:56] teorary wall in order to

[56:57] mitiga the temporary pblem.

[57:00] Correct. Was there a buiing

[57:02] permit graed for the outdoor

[57:05] chillers? Okay, s if what I

[57:06] m

[57:07] having a proem with isf the

[57:09] argunt I ts is a outdoor

[57:10] storagt

[57:10] s an improvement to

[57:12] e building. How could that

[57:13] haveccurred without a

[57:15] buding permit? I it

[57:16] s not

[57:17] outdoor storage a it

[57:18] s an

[57:19] expansion or an aertinence to

[57:21] the blding itself, that would

[57:22] reque a building permit,

[57:23] because tt

[57:24] s a substantial

[57:24] change of t use and t

[57:26] footprint.

[57:27] We

[57:28] re not changing the

[57:29] footprint. Cncilember

[57:31] kken not changin the

[57:32] otprint of the blding.

[57:35] Well, the the I, Iuess I

[57:35] m

[57:36] saying I

[57:37] m having aard time

[57:39] understanding how you can he

[57:39] it bot ways. It

[57:40] either

[57:42] outdoor storage of eipment or

[57:44] s an expansi of o the

[57:45] equipment that

[57:46] s pertinent to

[57:47] the building, in which case

[57:48] you

[57:49] d need some type of oer

[57:50] perm.

[57:51] MR. Mor.

[57:54] Councian.He the. Tempory

[57:55] chillers requid.

[57:56] A mechanical.

[57:58] Permit to connect them.

[58:00] To connect them to the

[58:05] building. Andtaffctually

[58:07] found out b accident. Tse

[58:09] we there theyre. In terms

[58:10] ofhether they

[58:11] reutdoor

[58:12] storage, they are they are

[58:13] mobile. They

[58:14] on Flatbeds.

[58:15] They are not pernently

[58:16] connecte to the building.

[58:17] They

[58:18] reonnected b you know,

[58:19] you saw the ptures sort of

[58:22] orangeoses. Theytaff. We

[58:23] interpret o zoningrdinance.

[58:24] The city ierprets. This I

[58:27] outdoor storage. They did

[58:29] require a mechanical permit to

[58:32] coect thato the buildg.

[58:33] They did fileor that

[58:36] chanicalermit. Hower,

[58:37] whene started recving nse

[58:38] colaints the e of FEBRUARY,

[58:40] we we went out to theite,

[58:42] reized that thohose

[58:44] temporary chillers we

[58:46] operational prior toeceiving

[58:48] that mechanical pert, which

[58:53] isnusual. At tt point, w

[58:55] we had aeady with the I,

[58:58] said they need some provi a

[58:59] noise study. We saw this

[59:01] equipment there, realized tha

[59:02] we

[59:03] ll probably mak noise. It

[59:04] s

[59:06] not srounded by wls like a

[59:09] rmanent system would be. We

[59:11] required a noisetudy wh

[59:13] thei iup. Once we saw their

[59:14] operational, weaturally

[59:16] formed themo the building

[59:16] official that you can

[59:18] t be

[59:19] operating these without a

[59:21] mechanical permit.Kay. They

[59:24] chose not to cease operations.

[59:25] Did strongly recommend they

[59:26] submit a noise study prior to

[59:28] th apec meeti, whichas at

[59:29] that point wascheduled f

[59:33] Marc 19th.E continue to

[59:34] ceive complaints from the

[59:38] public We g the results of

[59:39] th noise study back, wch

[59:41] said that, in fact, the

[59:44] chlers exceed.

[59:47] Yep. So I mean, I guess thiss

[59:48] soy. I

[59:49] m gng.

[59:51] To keep gng. No, no.

[59:51] Please go. This is a question

[59:53] for our city attorney. I mn,

[59:53] there

[59:56] s diffence between

[59:58] portable property and items

[1:00:00] at are an attack, an

[1:00:01] attachme to the blt. Those

[1:00:04] rooftop units are considered an

[1:00:05] improvemen and an attachment

[1:00:09] to the building stuffhat

[1:00:11] plug in and can be haud away

[1:00:12] is not considered permanent

[1:00:15] imovemento the buildin

[1:00:17] MR. Mayor, COUNCILMAN, my lal

[1:00:18] opion would be thi is.

[1:00:20] Outside storagend they wou

[1:00:21] need an iup. This I what they

[1:00:23] applied for Theup, that

[1:00:24] s

[1:00:25] the actionefore youonight.

[1:00:26] Okay. That was the

[1:00:27] clarification I nded. Tha

[1:00:30] you.

[1:00:31] Iuess what I

[1:00:32] m trying to get

[1:00:39] to is I They were on Flatbeds.

[1:00:40] It

[1:00:41] secause they

[1:00:43] re tporary

[1:00:44] But you

[1:00:45] re saying you thought

[1:00:46] that theyere permanent, are

[1:00:48] in your world. Does does

[1:00:50] permanent constructio arrive

[1:00:51] onlatbeds and stayn

[1:00:52] Flatbeds

[1:00:53] I

[1:00:54] noture what you

[1:00:55] re. Wha

[1:00:57] wh? Your question is, MR.

[1:00:58] Mayor.

[1:00:59] I

[1:01:00] m trying t understand the

[1:01:03] timing between t perception

[1:01:09] ofhese four chillerss

[1:01:12] structural mhanics and the

[1:01:16] decisi instead to go outnd

[1:01:20] look for 8 or 9 chillers and

[1:01:21] ame those as somehow

[1:01:24] perment, and tn comeack

[1:01:25] on t back side and say, n

[1:01:27] no,o, these these are

[1:01:29] tually temporary

[1:01:31] ah. You MAY there MAY be a

[1:01:33] MISS. You MAY not clearly

[1:01:35] understand the facts

[1:01:36] Well, I

[1:01:37] m if Ion

[1:01:38] t clearly

[1:01:39] understand the facts I think

[1:01:40] I

[1:01:41] m, I have help in that..

[1:01:42] The goal w to provide

[1:01:44] rmanent cllers. Weidn

[1:01:45] t

[1:01:47] have thebility to obtn

[1:01:49] permanent chillers in the time

[1:01:51] necessary to sercehe

[1:01:54] property So on a interim

[1:01:59] basis, we cated a system for

[1:02:01] temporary chiers. They

[1:02:02] re

[1:02:03] going to behere until they

[1:02:04] re

[1:02:05] not needed anymore, at which

[1:02:06] point they

[1:02:07] ll be replad by

[1:02:10] permanent chillers in a in a in

[1:02:14] a masonry sucture tha will

[1:02:18] bo hide them from view and

[1:02:19] and deal with any noise

[1:02:23] concerns. It was I was an

[1:02:26] interim. Itas an ierim need

[1:02:27] that we filled. I

[1:02:28] m not.

[1:02:29] That

[1:02:30] not the way. That

[1:02:31] s not

[1:02:32] e way that you prented it.

[1:02:33] You presented it a thisas a

[1:02:34] mechanal pt of the

[1:02:37] building,nd I was t replace

[1:02:39] the existing cooli structure

[1:02:40] ich we thought we h taken

[1:02:43] care of by these fr chiller

[1:02:44] No, I don

[1:02:45] t think I don

[1:02:46] t think

[1:02:47] that

[1:02:47] s correct

[1:02:48] characterizaon. Our rooftop

[1:02:50] illers are rooop chillers.

[1:02:51] We

[1:02:52] re not going to work.

[1:02:54] And assume that Issume that

[1:02:55] you knew that at some point

[1:02:56] early on inhe process.

[1:02:57] Well, at some point,e knew

[1:02:58] that they were n going to

[1:02:59] work, wheth they had ather

[1:03:01] useful lif of two years, three

[1:03:02] ars, five yrs, ten years. I

[1:03:03] don

[1:03:04] t kw the answer to that,

[1:03:07] t those chierseeded toe

[1:03:08] replac. Now we hadome

[1:03:09] chces. We could have replace

[1:03:12] them with on theoof with

[1:03:14] exact same chillers.

[1:03:15] So why didn

[1:03:16] t you let me ask

[1:03:17] you that? Whyidn

[1:03:18] t you do

[1:03:19] th? Why do we go thiay?

[1:03:20] Because we had roundabout

[1:03:21] route.

[1:03:22] We thoug the cit would

[1:03:23] prefers not to be using 2.7

[1:03:24] llion gallons of water a

[1:03:25] year.

[1:03:26] Thes are. Did y ask the

[1:03:27] city?

[1:03:29] Would the question be. Would

[1:03:30] the answere different?

[1:03:31] I

[1:03:32] m notsking wha the answer

[1:03:33] would haveeen. Did yousk

[1:03:34] the city aut this?Ou

[1:03:35] re

[1:03:36] clearly in aonundrum. And you

[1:03:37] didn

[1:03:38] t think to reach o to

[1:03:39] theity and say what are you

[1:03:40] guys think abo this? You jt

[1:03:41] assud what their answe would

[1:03:42] be.

[1:03:43] I don

[1:03:44] t think that was an iss

[1:03:45] th we needed to tal to t

[1:03:46] citybout. I think the answe

[1:03:47] pretty obvus, which is

[1:03:48] ey

[1:03:49] re environmeally safe,

[1:03:50] they

[1:03:51] re environntally

[1:03:52] friend. Theyeplace an

[1:03:53] outmoded, environmental

[1:03:55] unfriendly system. I

[1:03:56] m n sure

[1:03:57] who at ts table woulduggest

[1:03:59] thate ought totay wit it,

[1:04:00] but I

[1:04:02] ll if, if, if, if it is

[1:04:06] your pference that that we

[1:04:10] abandon thislan and itall

[1:04:13] traditional oime chillers

[1:04:15] back onhe roof, we could

[1:04:16] certainly look.

[1:04:17] At it. I

[1:04:18] s not I don

[1:04:19] my

[1:04:21] concern is, I think, quite

[1:04:22] frankly, it

[1:04:23] s feeling to me

[1:04:24] like you did

[1:04:25] t ask qstions

[1:04:25] because you didn

[1:04:26] t want the

[1:04:28] answers. And, and andhat I

[1:04:29] m

[1:04:30] feeling le is tt different

[1:04:31] things emerge at difrent

[1:04:33] tis in this timele. And

[1:04:34] that

[1:04:34] s a lot of wha

[1:04:35] s

[1:04:36] confing it. And it

[1:04:36] s

[1:04:38] decisions to make assptions

[1:04:39] based on the idea that it

[1:04:40] s

[1:04:41] your opion thatou don

[1:04:42] t

[1:04:42] need something a opposed to

[1:04:43] aski the city and followi

[1:04:45] th legal pross, or at least

[1:04:50] a tradional process And so,

[1:04:52] MR. Mayor allhat aside. So

[1:04:53] let

[1:04:54] s.

[1:04:55] Le me just mak an analogy

[1:04:56] MR. Mayor, if if I buy a singl

[1:04:58] milyot fromennar Homes,

[1:05:00] correct. And it

[1:05:01] zed as

[1:05:03] single familt

[1:05:04] s all the

[1:05:06] areas around it are singl

[1:05:08] family. A I look at your

[1:05:09] zoning map and it

[1:05:10] s r, I

[1:05:11] m

[1:05:12] probably not going to come I

[1:05:15] andsk t city for permission

[1:05:17] or its onion as to wheth or

[1:05:19] not I am allowed to use that

[1:05:20] property for residential

[1:05:23] purposes.Nd in this case, w

[1:05:24] had a building tt had been

[1:05:26] used as a data center.

[1:05:27] No no no n no no no. Y just

[1:05:28] talked aboutou justalked to

[1:05:29] me about and I

[1:05:30] ll get to you in

[1:05:31] one sond. Yes. Yeah. The

[1:05:32] vetails. You just you just

[1:05:34] aske me.Ou just sd that

[1:05:35] yo would check the zoning and

[1:05:40] guing right? And that you

[1:05:41] wouldn

[1:05:42] come in and a for a

[1:05:43] difference I the zoning

[1:05:44] guiding was wha you looked at.

[1:05:45] T you

[1:05:46] re telli me that you

[1:05:48] ca into you bough a property

[1:05:53] at I r&d, that is not data

[1:05:56] only pririly, and that you

[1:05:57] didn

[1:05:57] t a the questn.

[1:05:59] Your factsre wrong. Itas

[1:06:01] data primarily. It was not da.

[1:06:02] Another.

[1:06:03] Service counselor, spin, I let

[1:06:04] you take Mr.Ayor of this.

[1:06:05] Actually a question of.

[1:06:09] Aff and it actually you did a

[1:06:11] great segue for me oningle

[1:06:13] family homes inn r-1 district.

[1:06:15] Most inur are hav a

[1:06:17] detached gager detached

[1:06:18] gage tt you park your car

[1:06:20] in. That

[1:06:21] s an accessory use to

[1:06:25] the home, crect. So if I were

[1:06:27] to buy atheringle fily

[1:06:29] home in my nghborhood and

[1:06:30] say, you knowhat,

[1:06:31] m jt

[1:06:33] goingo parkarsn this lot.

[1:06:34] No o

[1:06:35] s going to live there.

[1:06:36] It

[1:06:37] s goi to just be my

[1:06:38] fries myself. I

[1:06:39] rent it

[1:06:40] out a just park cars there

[1:06:41] because it

[1:06:42] s bn useds a

[1:06:46] gage everince itas built.

[1:06:49] Would that be a permitted use

[1:06:52] for that pperty so no one

[1:06:54] lives there? It

[1:06:55] snly being

[1:06:56] usedor storing cars.

[1:06:58] MR. Mor, council members

[1:06:58] subpoena. Tha

[1:06:59] s aost an

[1:07:01] exac analogy that I talked

[1:07:02] out with community

[1:07:04] developmt Hutmacher a few

[1:07:05] days agohat similarly, if

[1:07:07] soone owned a hou with a

[1:07:09] garagend they deced t rent

[1:07:11] out the space in their garage

[1:07:13] and then move from the property

[1:07:14] with tt be vlating the

[1:07:16] code and I would say, yes,

[1:07:16] that they

[1:07:17] re just basically

[1:07:19] usg it f stora off

[1:07:20] personal.

[1:07:21] Property.

[1:07:21] Even though tha garage eve

[1:07:22] bein used for years ago.

[1:07:23] But if they

[1:07:24] not occupying it

[1:07:25] emselves, I would I would

[1:07:26] milarly see it similar.

[1:07:28] Got it. Okay. Thank you.

[1:07:29] Council membe I

[1:07:30] morry.

[1:07:32] Just just gohead.

[1:07:33] Ju to build on that a ltle

[1:07:34] bi You said during your

[1:07:38] esentation that t accessory

[1:07:40] use or seconry use,ou know,

[1:07:41] e trational use is that

[1:07:42] ther was a data center or

[1:07:45] mputing cenr.T was a

[1:07:48] enterprise data center

[1:07:50] supptive of the main use o

[1:07:52] the prorty, whichas

[1:07:54] search and development.Nd

[1:07:55] one point, thought you

[1:07:56] heard you say that. Wel up t

[1:07:59] 49% of the usef the building

[1:08:02] could be the accsory use. But

[1:08:04] itegs the qstion, that

[1:08:05] s

[1:08:05] only I there

[1:08:06] sn existing

[1:08:07] imary use. That

[1:08:08] a use

[1:08:09] that

[1:08:10] s within the guiding and

[1:08:12] zong for the purpose. So if

[1:08:14] more than 49% of it I being

[1:08:16] usedor wt was supposed to

[1:08:18] be the sondary use, or if a

[1:08:19] ceain portion o it

[1:08:20] s being

[1:08:21] used,ut the rest of the

[1:08:22] building is emptynd

[1:08:22] undetilized, that doesn

[1:08:24] t

[1:08:25] seem to fit our standards. Or

[1:08:27] am Iistaken on that?

[1:08:28] MR.. Mter mayor, Council

[1:08:30] member backing that? That

[1:08:31] s

[1:08:32] correct. I mn, that is really

[1:08:34] the zoning question of policy

[1:08:35] beforeou. If there

[1:08:36] s not an

[1:08:37] occupant occupying the offic

[1:08:39] building, is there reall then

[1:08:41] a principal u that

[1:08:42] s takg

[1:08:43] place withi the pperty?Nd

[1:08:44] is it just only the data

[1:08:45] center?

[1:08:46] At some point, the the

[1:08:48] accessory use,ou know, the

[1:08:50] tail srts toag the d and

[1:08:51] it becomes the pmary use.

[1:08:53] Yeah. Okay. So the other

[1:08:55] question Iad related to iep

[1:08:57] is and I already know the

[1:08:58] answer t the question, but

[1:08:59] hypothetically, wld we

[1:09:02] entertain an iep in an

[1:09:04] industrial zone to introduce

[1:09:06] resideial houng? Or does

[1:09:08] that cngehe naturef the

[1:09:10] guiding and the underlying

[1:09:11] guidg and zong of the

[1:09:13] property so muc that it

[1:09:14] s not

[1:09:15] reallyppropriate for an iep?

[1:09:17] Because b granting the iup,

[1:09:18] you would fundantally change

[1:09:19] the nature of the u of the

[1:09:21] property.

[1:09:22] Mr.Ayor, Councilmber back

[1:09:23] and correct, we wou not

[1:09:26] entertain an iep to introduce a

[1:09:27] permanent useike single

[1:09:28] familyousing andndustrial

[1:09:29] ea.

[1:09:30] But if sebody instedn

[1:09:31] aski the question, we

[1:09:32] det

[1:09:34] th file f the iep. But the

[1:09:36] answer would be what? What

[1:09:36] logically be no.

[1:09:38] Yeah And the proper

[1:09:39] applicatn wld be t regard

[1:09:41] a reze theroperty.

[1:09:43] Okay. Iight have mor

[1:09:44] questions later, b that

[1:09:45] s

[1:09:46] good for now

[1:09:47] I

[1:09:50] ll l meet aside the

[1:09:51] ning issues. W

[1:09:51] re going to

[1:09:52] have some disagementsnd

[1:09:53] we

[1:09:54] just have to agr to

[1:09:56] disaee. I gue on the on the

[1:09:58] noise migation. I mean, I

[1:09:58] m

[1:09:59] I

[1:10:00] troubledy the

[1:10:03] inallation of the We

[1:10:04] ll just

[1:10:05] call them the four chiers.

[1:10:06] Don

[1:10:07] t know if there were

[1:10:09] envisioned asermanent time or

[1:10:10] temporary, a I don

[1:10:10] t wt to

[1:10:12] getack on that argent. But

[1:10:14] at the time ofhe installatio.

[1:10:22] What was the the the the

[1:10:24] reasong behind installing

[1:10:26] them andot having concern

[1:10:29] about about noise in the

[1:10:32] surrounding area? I mea help

[1:10:34] me out with tha

[1:10:35] i think the assumion w that

[1:10:36] they would mee theoise

[1:10:39] standards.

[1:10:47] Okay.Mpressive I wt to

[1:10:52] talk about the noise. Studi

[1:10:54] th were don, my

[1:11:00] understandg thumbnail is.

[1:11:05] Installed t. The the fr

[1:11:10] chlers and the timelinoes

[1:11:12] for chillers on site. Not yet

[1:11:17] operational.Ity informs iron

[1:11:23] gate Need for a iup.Ron

[1:11:26] gate in beten that

[1:11:28] notification and actual

[1:11:31] applationor the I starts

[1:11:33] to operate thehillers without

[1:11:38] the permit and ands a resul

[1:11:41] of conces expressed o passed

[1:11:43] onrom the city to your

[1:11:45] applican the noise issue

[1:11:47] comesp only after you

[1:11:48] ve

[1:11:50] started Opetionorrect.

[1:11:53] I all I recl is tha the

[1:11:56] noise issue was part of the iup

[1:11:58] plication that we were

[1:12:02] requeste to make.

[1:12:06] MR.. Schultz Mike. Wl, when

[1:12:08] we when y informed, you

[1:12:10] informed thepplicant.

[1:12:12] Informed the sta. Informed

[1:12:13] I can

[1:12:13] t rememr for mysf,

[1:12:14] r one of my staff informed

[1:12:15] the.

[1:12:16] Applicant andas that was that

[1:12:18] was w that as result of

[1:12:20] noise complaints from the

[1:12:22] operation or from observati

[1:12:24] the cooleeing on site?

[1:12:25] The initial contact w

[1:12:27] obrvation of the chiers on

[1:12:28] site.

[1:12:29] Ay. And at that pnt, we

[1:12:30] don

[1:12:30] tnow. That opetion

[1:12:31] started.

[1:12:32] At thatoint. Wead notnown

[1:12:33] operations staed.

[1:12:34] And had weeceived any noise

[1:12:35] complaints.

[1:12:36] Not up until that point.

[1:12:39] No Okay. Wn did t know

[1:12:41] when did the chills become

[1:12:42] operant?

[1:12:43] I don

[1:12:43] t kno the I don

[1:12:44] t know

[1:12:47] the date. Sometime aftere had

[1:12:48] be informed that weeeded an

[1:12:51] iup.

[1:12:54] Okay. So noise wasn

[1:12:54] t part of

[1:12:57] the conversatn of the I

[1:12:59] untilhe cllersctually

[1:13:01] started operang, corre?

[1:13:02] Correct. And the receiving

[1:13:04] complaints,oise cplaints

[1:13:05] over the weend fro fm

[1:13:06] the chillers.

[1:13:09] Okay. So the resnse to noi

[1:13:10] colaints is to do a noise

[1:13:12] study. Correct.

[1:13:13] Y that again please.

[1:13:15] Th the the response to the

[1:13:19] noise cplaints was to do a

[1:13:21] noise sdy.

[1:13:23] We did a noise study because

[1:13:27] the IUPequired it..

[1:13:28] Does t IUPequire it Mic or

[1:13:29] did we pas along the concern

[1:13:30] about noise.

[1:13:33] Ah Mary. Yeah we we we did

[1:13:34] ask for the noise study

[1:13:36] followg theubmittal of the

[1:13:39] iup applicaon becau of the

[1:13:40] ar or concerns for noise

[1:13:42] generated from that. Those

[1:13:43] compints receid from

[1:13:46] resident certain supported

[1:13:47] the nd for aoise study as

[1:13:48] rt of the applicati.

[1:13:50] Okay Soe do a noise stu

[1:13:53] without strucral migation

[1:13:55] of noise t t to to lev

[1:13:56] set,orrect?

[1:13:58] Yes. In fact, I thinkhe noise

[1:14:00] study wompleted prior to

[1:14:02] e time tt the installation

[1:14:04] operation began because it was

[1:14:05] done based on the

[1:14:08] specifications that tra gives

[1:14:12] and notot o not on theasis

[1:14:14] of, of actl oration that

[1:14:17] came lat.

[1:14:18] That doe

[1:14:19] t.

[1:14:19] An can you explain that

[1:14:22] little me? Sure.

[1:14:25] The. More science than I

[1:14:28] understand, but but noise

[1:14:30] studs are oftenmes based on

[1:14:35] a model of wha what noiill

[1:14:37] come out of these machines.

[1:14:38] That dsn

[1:14:39] t en depend on the

[1:14:40] machines being operative. They

[1:14:42] take the specificaonshe

[1:14:44] ain pvides, and it says

[1:14:47] they hav the, the the noise

[1:14:49] engineers have these mels and

[1:14:51] they say bedn this day

[1:14:52] time,t should b this

[1:14:53] nightte, it.

[1:14:54] Should be this tnel. This

[1:14:54] sty wasn

[1:14:55] todeled. There

[1:14:56] were monits, the were noise

[1:14:58] monitors moniting decibel

[1:14:58] levels.

[1:15:00] The the first study the fir

[1:15:03] port did not w based solely

[1:15:07] uponhe specifications monitor

[1:15:11] then. And they indicated tha

[1:15:12] we were goingo need some

[1:15:14] noise migation just based on

[1:15:15] the specs. A tha

[1:15:16] s when w

[1:15:19] arted t process toesign

[1:15:21] and install the sound barriers

[1:15:23] d the scaffolng.

[1:15:25] Th material that you submitt

[1:15:29] talked aboutour locations

[1:15:31] arnd the buildg. Onene of

[1:15:32] them, I belve it wasocation

[1:15:34] two that was on the east side

[1:15:34] the building, rig next to

[1:15:37] Pilot Knob. Ather one was up

[1:15:39] closer o the north. Thatas,

[1:15:40] I belve, two. There were

[1:15:42] three and four tha were o the

[1:15:43] west and the south side of the

[1:15:45] budings. Tho were actual

[1:15:46] monitors. They weren

[1:15:47] t, as far

[1:15:48] as I understand. They weren

[1:15:49] t

[1:15:49] models. They were actual

[1:15:53] monitors picking up noise.

[1:15:55] Ther were two noise studies

[1:15:56] ne.

[1:15:56] I underand tha

[1:15:58] Firstne wasone on a model,

[1:16:00] and that model required based

[1:16:03] on the city standards. And and

[1:16:04] . Schultz can tell m if I

[1:16:05] m

[1:16:06] wrong.Ity standards says you

[1:16:08] ve to. D you have to model

[1:16:09] this You have to pvide a

[1:16:13] noise sdy within 500 o

[1:16:14] 1000ft of every boundary of the

[1:16:17] property. So the model then

[1:16:19] take those pointsromhe

[1:16:21] boundaes of theroperty into

[1:16:23] consideration andreates the

[1:16:24] nois study basedn that

[1:16:28] model. Tn on the secon noise

[1:16:31] udy, actua monitors were

[1:16:32] put..

[1:16:35] .O tell me then, how is it

[1:16:37] that I read a document today

[1:16:38] that talked about that, tt

[1:16:41] thatalked about before the

[1:16:43] insulated walls, noise

[1:16:46] asurements being taken

[1:16:48] throughout a 24 hour, ateast

[1:16:50] 124 houeriod, if not two

[1:16:53] The model requires the nse

[1:16:54] measurements ofhat? Of what

[1:16:57] th existing noise is bore

[1:17:01] thenstallation. S without

[1:17:03] they they they get a basele.

[1:17:04] If I understand the technogy

[1:17:06] correctly of what the noise is,

[1:17:08] where the noi isoming fro

[1:17:11] th they use that a the, as

[1:17:13] the sort of control for

[1:17:15] applying the market.

[1:17:18] I. I thi we

[1:17:19] re tking about

[1:17:20] the same thi. I don

[1:17:21] t I d

[1:17:21] t

[1:17:22] the moding language to me is

[1:17:24] no appropriate here. There was

[1:17:26] actually a sdy don befor

[1:17:29] the wal were put up that

[1:17:31] incated thatas tak.

[1:17:34] Mples over a 24 hr perio

[1:17:36] ateast one.Orrect.

[1:17:39] Not samples of the genator.

[1:17:41] Noise sampl of the.

[1:17:42] What is thi document up here?

[1:17:44] What is tt? Wha whatoes

[1:17:44] at tell me?

[1:17:45] That

[1:17:46] s that

[1:17:46] s his. That

[1:17:47] s that

[1:17:50] was baspon the baseline

[1:17:53] noise monitoring, but not bed

[1:17:57] on the theoise fro the

[1:17:59] nerator, though that first

[1:18:01] studyas simplased un t

[1:18:05] specificionss apped.

[1:18:07] When washis? When was thi

[1:18:08] study done? What was the date

[1:18:14] the study was done on?

[1:18:16] I think the first study was

[1:18:20] done onarch 6th.

[1:18:21] Okay.

[1:18:23] MR. MAY.

[1:18:25] Issued a report on Marchth.

[1:18:26] They issued a report on MARCH

[1:18:29] 6th. Wn were the when? So are

[1:18:30] you suggestin that we

[1:18:30] re not

[1:18:31] measuremen doner thereere

[1:18:33] measurents donet this time?

[1:18:35] M suggestin tre were there

[1:18:37] were baseline msurements of

[1:18:39] the sound of the neighborhd

[1:18:41] at tt time. And it is against

[1:18:43] thos measurements that the

[1:18:45] modeli occs..

[1:18:46] Were the chillers operational

[1:18:47] at the time?

[1:18:48] I d

[1:18:49] t believe so, my lor

[1:18:50] Mr. MAY.

[1:18:52] Wellet me.O I

[1:18:53] m goi to

[1:18:53] I

[1:18:54] m going to I

[1:18:54] m going t fp

[1:18:56] om this stu and

[1:18:57] ll just

[1:19:00] be clear. The way this document

[1:19:02] res to me doesot je wit

[1:19:03] what y

[1:19:07] re suggestin.Nd I

[1:19:07] think it

[1:19:07] s an important

[1:19:10] comparison. This offers

[1:19:13] specific tes and weather

[1:19:15] condions, resulting I what

[1:19:17] appears to be a msurement,

[1:19:19] not a theoreticodeling, but

[1:19:22] an actual measurement. And this

[1:19:23] appears toe to tak place

[1:19:29] over4ours a hou long

[1:19:30] intervals. I

[1:19:30] m not se what

[1:19:31] happens in the in the

[1:19:34] inteeningour. On Febary

[1:19:37] 26th. When do we start

[1:19:39] receivg noise complaints?

[1:19:40] The fir.

[1:19:40] One.

[1:19:43] MR. MAY, tirstomplaint

[1:19:44] was sent to us onebruary

[1:19:45] th.

[1:19:51] Ok so, so so the fir time

[1:19:52] we got a noise complaint was

[1:19:53] e 28th corre? We don

[1:19:54] t kw

[1:19:56] for support You, you you can

[1:19:56] t

[1:19:57] say when these went

[1:19:57] operationa

[1:19:58] Ion

[1:19:59] t don

[1:19:59] t have that

[1:20:00] informationkay.

[1:20:02] Suffe suffice to s that

[1:20:05] FEBRUARY 26th and Februar 28th

[1:20:06] aren somewt clo

[1:20:09] proxity.Omewhere in the,

[1:20:11] maybe in between the 26th and

[1:20:12] the 28th, the chiller went

[1:20:15] operatnal or they wer

[1:20:16] operatiol before. We don

[1:20:17] t

[1:20:17] know. That

[1:20:23] sine. Now, with

[1:20:26] this level o detailed data,

[1:20:27] can youelp me? Can youelp

[1:20:29] explain? When I go to the APRIL

[1:20:34] thound sdy, ws that

[1:20:41] sound study limited? To the

[1:20:45] ur o to 4 in the morning

[1:20:48] instead of 24 hour period.

[1:20:50] Firsy.

[1:20:50] I

[1:20:51] m not I

[1:20:52] m not technical

[1:20:54] qualified to answer that

[1:20:56] qution. My speculaon is

[1:20:59] at because theesting f

[1:21:02] the oth hours ofhe day met

[1:21:05] the require standards,hat

[1:21:07] what we were focusing on were

[1:21:09] therea at times of the day

[1:21:10] en the sndardsere not

[1:21:11] being met.

[1:21:13] Okay. If you

[1:21:14] ll nice, beten

[1:21:15] this document and the one we

[1:21:18] d up before, the fir one

[1:21:22] showed 24 hours also showed

[1:21:26] weather conditions very, very

[1:21:29] specifico the times. This o

[1:21:30] incles no reference to

[1:21:33] weher conditions at the time.

[1:21:34] Why is that?

[1:21:35] I c

[1:21:36] t awer those specific

[1:21:38] chnical queions. I

[1:21:39] m not.

[1:21:40] I

[1:21:42] m not a sound engineer

[1:21:44] Okay, Couilor Bakken o

[1:21:45] somebo else here.

[1:21:47] I he some related questns

[1:21:49] abt noise and MAY for staff

[1:21:52] on ts chart, the locations

[1:21:55] one through s, were they on

[1:21:57] the subject propertyr I the

[1:22:00] surroundg neighborhoo?

[1:22:01] Mr. Mor, Councilmeer Bh,

[1:22:02] andy understanding is that

[1:22:04] noise studi have to be done

[1:22:06] at the receiving property lin

[1:22:08] at theearest point, not not

[1:22:09] on the subject propey, but at

[1:22:10] e receiver, rig at the

[1:22:10] prerty line.

[1:22:12] Ay. And can can you elain

[1:22:14] to me the diffence betwe a

[1:22:15] nac one and an act three

[1:22:16] receiver?

[1:22:17] Sohere

[1:22:18] s classificatn land

[1:22:19] use classificionshat fall

[1:22:22] into the nac one, nac two, nac

[1:22:25] ree, NACne is resential,

[1:22:25] and so that

[1:22:27] s where can

[1:22:28] certainly bng up aap that

[1:22:29] showsp. But tha

[1:22:29] s

[1:22:30] resideial. The nac three I

[1:22:32] believe, is institutialnd

[1:22:35] pa related land us. So that

[1:22:36] nac three, where the Srry

[1:22:38] Tower is at I tnk ishe nac

[1:22:38] thre

[1:22:44] Ok. A thehehe noise

[1:22:48] mits promulged by the p

[1:22:50] are certainly good guidance,

[1:22:53] but is the city allow to

[1:22:55] exerci common sense whent

[1:22:57] comeso sound, a

[1:22:58] particularly sinceound is

[1:23:01] very compl and dending o

[1:23:02] the frequcy andow it

[1:23:03] s

[1:23:04] being reflected and different

[1:23:06] soces emittin theame sound

[1:23:07] wavean create interferometr

[1:23:08] So you

[1:23:09] ve got peaks and troughs

[1:23:11] ere the waves cancel.Ou can

[1:23:12] have locations in a certain

[1:23:13] spot, o it

[1:23:14] sctually muc

[1:23:16] loud I terms o decibel tha

[1:23:18] what you measure even0ft to

[1:23:21] side. How muc leeway doe the

[1:23:24] ty have to be mor stringe,

[1:23:25] or try to apply common sense

[1:23:27] standards beyond what the pca

[1:23:29] mightequire through a vy

[1:23:32] mimal samplin?

[1:23:33] Llet the cityttorney

[1:23:34] addresshat.

[1:23:35] MR. Mayor. Couilmember

[1:23:36] Bachman, sta statutes does

[1:23:38] not permit you to b more

[1:23:40] stringent than the MPCa

[1:23:43] andards. Hing said that,

[1:23:45] the stu, you know, youave

[1:23:47] toompare ales to apples.

[1:23:47] At what you

[1:23:48] re doing.O, I

[1:23:48] mean that

[1:23:49] s it

[1:23:49] s a point in

[1:23:52] time at:00 I the morningn

[1:23:57] a 48 degree day. So it. You

[1:23:58] have residts that were athe

[1:23:59] planningommission tha spoke

[1:24:00] their home and o the

[1:24:02] vibrion, and tha

[1:24:03] s some

[1:24:05] compelli testimony. But

[1:24:06] agn, we

[1:24:06] re notn the

[1:24:07] busiss of going out and

[1:24:10] measuring noi. We

[1:24:10] d probably

[1:24:11] have t hire someone

[1:24:13] indepeent. Yeah.

[1:24:14] Iuess what I

[1:24:15] m getting at,

[1:24:16] though,s that t whole

[1:24:18] reason w have nse staards

[1:24:21] is becau of t impact on

[1:24:21] everydayeople

[1:24:23] s lives, and

[1:24:24] the noisetudies a certain

[1:24:27] an attempt to get to that. But

[1:24:28] cause of the complexityf

[1:24:30] sound waves and I

[1:24:30] ve

[1:24:31] exrienced it myself. I mean,

[1:24:32] ere

[1:24:32] s this thi called the

[1:24:34] Eagan hume think w kind of

[1:24:36] figured outhere it was, but

[1:24:37] my house just happens to be a

[1:24:39] a conveence point whe we

[1:24:41] ge the troughs ony side of

[1:24:42] th bed. You can heart. I

[1:24:43] s

[1:24:44] sur loud on my wife

[1:24:45] s se of

[1:24:45] the bed. You can

[1:24:46] t hea a

[1:24:47] thing. It

[1:24:48] s like what?

[1:24:49] You know.

[1:24:53] Foureet of differee. So

[1:24:54] it

[1:24:55] s it

[1:24:55] s a big bed.

[1:24:56] It

[1:24:58] s like sheet

[1:25:01] Nuff sd.

[1:25:03] King size bed California king.

[1:25:03] Don

[1:25:05] t think about I too much.

[1:25:06] Trying not to.

[1:25:08] T.

[1:25:08] I.

[1:25:09] I guess wt I

[1:25:10] m sing is

[1:25:12] that,ou know, thereas to b

[1:25:14] someype of bk end method

[1:25:16] forelief. Because I you

[1:25:16] ve

[1:25:19] got folks who, you know, again,

[1:25:21] sounds comex, it combines, it

[1:25:24] propagates in certain ways.

[1:25:25] They

[1:25:25] re against the side of the

[1:25:27] building. So the sound

[1:25:28] s not

[1:25:30] radiating inll directions.

[1:25:31] E sound that would normally

[1:25:33] go one way I beingeflected

[1:25:34] and comned with t sound

[1:25:36] going to the north, and it can

[1:25:38] do funny things. So when when

[1:25:40] people he acdotal stoes

[1:25:42] about the houseibrating.

[1:25:44] Yeah, ifou get jus the rig

[1:25:45] sonance frequency, I don

[1:25:46] know if the things are

[1:25:48] operating at, at 60Hz or, or

[1:25:49] whater, like a regular

[1:25:52] compreor, but y can get

[1:25:54] stctural resance and it c

[1:25:55] be a big issue forhe person

[1:25:56] who

[1:25:56] on the receiving end of

[1:25:57] it.

[1:25:58] Can youpen the wdows in

[1:25:59] your car just a littl bit, and

[1:26:01] suenly you get that the whole

[1:26:02] car starts rattling?

[1:26:03] Ye, it

[1:26:03] s the se kindf

[1:26:05] thing. Yeah.

[1:26:06] It

[1:26:06] s balanced.

[1:26:10] So I, I feel like more needso

[1:26:13] be don in terms o of if we

[1:26:15] even get there, mitigatinghe

[1:26:17] real impacts on peoe who are

[1:26:19] fected b the sound emitted

[1:26:21] from tse chillers. And MAY

[1:26:22] have more questions later about

[1:26:24] how we can get theref

[1:26:25] additionalonditions or

[1:26:26] something lik that.

[1:26:29] But I.

[1:26:31] At the end of the day, you you

[1:26:33] ke measurents at six

[1:26:35] differentpots. It

[1:26:36] s hpful,

[1:26:36] but it doesn

[1:26:38] t tl you how

[1:26:39] affected residents are actually

[1:26:41] experiencinghe noise.

[1:26:43] And I just had one more

[1:26:44] queson. Then I

[1:26:45] .

[1:26:45] Ge

[1:26:46] Back to you Councilmember But

[1:26:48] one more. Short line of

[1:26:52] questioning. I think. Misr

[1:26:54] Schultz reference the I

[1:26:54] ll

[1:26:55] refer to a the APRIL 27th

[1:26:57] study, ande agreed that

[1:26:58] s

[1:27:00] actuly atudy,lbeitn

[1:27:01] hour lg, b itas actual it

[1:27:02] sn

[1:27:02] t modeled. Corct?

[1:27:05] Correct. Okay. A coupl of

[1:27:12] questis abouthat. What w

[1:27:14] how many o the four chillers

[1:27:16] re in operaonnd at what

[1:27:17] level of opetion?

[1:27:19] My undstandinghat there

[1:27:20] were three chillers in

[1:27:21] operation, because that

[1:27:22] s t

[1:27:23] design. T fourth is oy for

[1:27:26] redundancy If one breaks down.

[1:27:27] My assumption is tt they were

[1:27:32] opering. They we operating.

[1:27:33] I c

[1:27:34] t tell you a what level

[1:27:36] Okay, so earlier, Ihink

[1:27:37] ring your preseation, you

[1:27:41] suested tt t the esting

[1:27:44] system had reaed t end o

[1:27:53] its life and that. That. In t

[1:27:57] in the for chiller approach.

[1:27:59] That three of the frhillers

[1:28:01] would need to be opeted

[1:28:03] dependent oneather

[1:28:05] conditions. Is that rht?

[1:28:05] That

[1:28:06] s corre.

[1:28:09] Ay. But you so y don

[1:28:10] t you

[1:28:12] ow that that thatou assume

[1:28:13] th three ofhe four were

[1:28:15] operational athe time on

[1:28:16] ril 27th, or y know, that.

[1:28:16] Three I don

[1:28:17] t know the awer

[1:28:17] to that question. I

[1:28:19] oy if.

[1:28:19] If so, you don

[1:28:20] . I just want

[1:28:21] to be cle. You don

[1:28:22] t knowor

[1:28:23] sure which ones were

[1:28:25] erational. And beyond that,

[1:28:26] you don

[1:28:27] t know at what level

[1:28:27] they wereperating.

[1:28:28] Correct. I c

[1:28:28] t tell y the

[1:28:30] opational spefics. We cld

[1:28:32] certainly ifft

[1:28:33] s theesire

[1:28:34] of the council to have

[1:28:36] additial noise studies have

[1:28:38] the tech o the engineer ce

[1:28:40] in, provide you additional

[1:28:41] informatio and you want to

[1:28:42] coinue this hearing forhat

[1:28:46] purpe. We think we think

[1:28:47] at

[1:28:49] d be just fine. Now, these

[1:28:50] temporary chillers are goi to

[1:28:52] there f a very tporary

[1:28:53] period of time, oy until the

[1:28:55] peanent come, and in wch

[1:28:56] case w have too the whole

[1:28:57] thing over with resct.

[1:28:59] And and when d the permanent

[1:29:01] commment?

[1:29:02] Rightow, we know tha they

[1:29:03] ll

[1:29:05] be in before the end of the six

[1:29:05] month perio that w

[1:29:06] re asking

[1:29:09] for the for the council to

[1:29:09] permit.

[1:29:10] And that

[1:29:11] all we canank on.

[1:29:11] Pardon me. Andhat

[1:29:12] s all w

[1:29:13] can bank on.

[1:29:13] I don

[1:29:15] t know thexact date

[1:29:16] that we put I operation.

[1:29:17] All rig. So so if awaed

[1:29:23] tonight. MR. Attorney, one

[1:29:24] would t if weward the

[1:29:25] interim permit tonight, one

[1:29:27] would it be effective to.

[1:29:29] X months, MR. Mor, six

[1:29:31] months fm tonight we would

[1:29:32] have approve

[1:29:34] The would woulde OCTOBER,

[1:29:35] vember,oughlyovember.

[1:29:38] Yeah Okay. Public schoolath.

[1:29:43] Sorry.Kay.

[1:29:44] Counciember speaking. Thank

[1:29:46] you. Actuall two questions,

[1:29:47] stly clarication. One

[1:29:49] actually is on aomment tha

[1:29:51] MR. Margolis just just said. So

[1:29:54] the second noi study, it

[1:29:55] sounds like the

[1:29:56] s unctainty

[1:29:57] of how my chiller are

[1:29:57] operating. Wldn

[1:29:58] t that be

[1:30:00] kind of essenti to a noise

[1:30:02] study?Ou know, howany of

[1:30:02] what

[1:30:03] operating when you

[1:30:03] re

[1:30:04] doing theoise study I mn,

[1:30:06] is is tha part o the study?

[1:30:07] Andt juste just doe

[1:30:07] t

[1:30:08] haen to have that iormation

[1:30:09] at his fingerts right now? Or

[1:30:10] was that never part of the

[1:30:12] study.

[1:30:14] MR. Mayor, Council memr

[1:30:16] subpoe I, I did point tt

[1:30:17] out inhe presentatio that

[1:30:18] that is auestion of this

[1:30:20] studyas, y know, therere

[1:30:21] some aects that come I

[1:30:23] question I mean,he 48 degree

[1:30:24] temperatur how my chiller

[1:30:25] does it reference, how many

[1:30:26] chillers wer actually I

[1:30:27] operatn athe time? So

[1:30:28] there

[1:30:28] s tre

[1:30:29] s a number of

[1:30:30] qutions. Still even with this

[1:30:30] study.

[1:30:32] Thank you.Nd then and I

[1:30:33] ll

[1:30:34] point of clafication onhe

[1:30:37] fit noise study, there was a

[1:30:38] t of discussion and I was

[1:30:39] ybe getting a little muddled.

[1:30:40] I just want t make sure I

[1:30:41] understand the first noise

[1:30:44] study. I soundsike it was a

[1:30:46] initial initi readings of

[1:30:47] what the neighboood is like

[1:30:48] when there

[1:30:50] no cllers in

[1:30:52] operation, justhe normal

[1:30:54] neighborhood that is the

[1:30:56] baseline. And thenou take the

[1:30:58] mol of these chillers and

[1:31:00] basilly orlay what com

[1:31:02] ou of the chillers spe over

[1:31:04] that baseline. And tt

[1:31:04] s that

[1:31:06] was wt compose t initial

[1:31:08] noise study. I that corre?

[1:31:11] Ye sir.Nd council member

[1:31:13] lookingt the report, the

[1:31:14] port does say that there were

[1:31:17] three operaonal chillers.

[1:31:18] I at.

[1:31:19] Ich time I

[1:31:21] d hazard a guess

[1:31:25] what level. B t tesng

[1:31:28] wasone based on what the cy

[1:31:30] asked the testing to be. So

[1:31:31] m

[1:31:33] my my guess is thathey were

[1:31:34] they were they were fired up

[1:31:37] and and were designed so tt

[1:31:38] we couldet an aurate tt

[1:31:39] of.

[1:31:39] What

[1:31:40] s goi on. Thank you.

[1:31:40] Thank you, Mr.Ayor.

[1:31:42] Just trying tonderstandhe

[1:31:43] technogy a ltle bit. These

[1:31:47] chillers are are they dledr

[1:31:49] ar they either 100 on and

[1:31:52] 100% off? C, younow, can

[1:31:54] they operateach individl

[1:31:56] chiller like half capacity and

[1:31:58] then dial up as the deman for

[1:31:59] cooling increases? Or are they

[1:32:01] litelly just on or on?

[1:32:01] Ihink they

[1:32:02] re on or off, b

[1:32:03] I don

[1:32:03] t I again, I

[1:32:04] m hazard a

[1:32:05] guess. I d

[1:32:05] t know the science

[1:32:06] behind I

[1:32:10] Okay.

[1:32:11] I, i

[1:32:14] m sure I have plenty more

[1:32:15] questions. I

[1:32:15] m not surehat

[1:32:16] s

[1:32:16] gog to get us anywhe right

[1:32:19] now. Maybe I

[1:32:19] ll, I

[1:32:19] ll Yeah.

[1:32:21] Councilmember bk and you can

[1:32:21] I

[1:32:25] m gna maybe headoo

[1:32:26] taking a rest hearing fm the

[1:32:28] fos who showedp tonight and

[1:32:30] then cing back and and

[1:32:31] workin this outore. But by

[1:32:32] all means, Cncilmember

[1:32:33] Canfield.

[1:32:34] Had a couple moreuestions

[1:32:35] about the chillersnd the

[1:32:37] chnology. You mentioned

[1:32:38] earlier that these chillersre

[1:32:39] more eicient than theld

[1:32:40] ones

[1:32:41] s.

[1:32:45] Okay. And in terms ofach

[1:32:47] dividual unit offer more

[1:32:50] therma displacement than the

[1:32:50] es they

[1:32:51] re replang or that

[1:32:53] th just use less electcity

[1:32:54] and.

[1:32:55] Water across the board. They

[1:32:56] arehey are more efficient.

[1:33:01] They work betr, and the

[1:33:04] require less maintenance.Kay.

[1:33:07] D most importantly they

[1:33:07] don

[1:33:08] tse water.

[1:33:09] Okay.O if if you wer to take

[1:33:11] one ofhose rooftopnits, the

[1:33:13] old ones and one of the new

[1:33:18] ones 1o 1he new one would

[1:33:20] provide morhermal

[1:33:22] displacement or me chilling

[1:33:23] capaci than one of the old

[1:33:24] ones.

[1:33:24] M assuming they

[1:33:25] more

[1:33:26] efficient, is what I

[1:33:27] undersnd.

[1:33:31] Okay I had a cple other

[1:33:32] Ye, I don

[1:33:32] t mean to hur.

[1:33:33] Yeah.

[1:33:33] I

[1:33:35] m just. Yea I, kind of

[1:33:36] having a hard time

[1:33:37] understandg who exactly is in

[1:33:37] charge of wt

[1:33:38] s goingn over

[1:33:38] there.

[1:33:40] Except I said it again.

[1:33:40] I

[1:33:41] m having aard time

[1:33:42] understanding w exact I in

[1:33:43] charge of wha

[1:33:44] s goingn over

[1:33:47] there. Eagan capital llc, they

[1:33:50] own theroperty. Yes. And Iron

[1:33:51] Gates the tenantho

[1:33:51] s

[1:33:55] operating their. Operating data

[1:33:56] nter.

[1:34:00] The Iron Gate is a subsiary

[1:34:06] of an affilte of Eagan

[1:34:08] Catal.

[1:34:12] Ich affilia I I Woodbury

[1:34:14] Capital, l. Ist Swivel

[1:34:16] Managementivision, llc? Is it

[1:34:19] ivelonsulting, llc?St

[1:34:21] Swivel Developntorporation,

[1:34:22] which used t be known as Baby

[1:34:23] Honeyntertainment

[1:34:25] corporated? Which which

[1:34:28] organization is in chae?

[1:34:28] It is it

[1:34:29] s an affiliate and

[1:34:29] it

[1:34:30] s owned by the it

[1:34:30] s under

[1:34:32] commonontrol of of thewners

[1:34:34] of swivel development.

[1:34:36] Okay. S swivel devopment

[1:34:37] sort of where thingsnd and

[1:34:41] iron gate tha pticular chu

[1:34:44] is it iron gate. One word llc

[1:34:46] is that the actualusiness.

[1:34:46] It

[1:34:47] s not a it

[1:34:48] s not an llc.

[1:34:49] It

[1:34:50] s an operatingivision.

[1:34:51] Okay. S it

[1:34:52] s it

[1:34:53] s not a

[1:34:53] separate biness that

[1:34:54] s bn

[1:34:55] fid with the sectary.

[1:34:56] Of state. Ion

[1:34:56] t believeo.

[1:34:57] Well, tha

[1:34:58] s why I coun

[1:34:59] t.

[1:34:59] Findt.

[1:35:00] Dba no, it

[1:35:01] s not even in there

[1:35:01] as a diva.

[1:35:02] Oh okay.

[1:35:04] Ok. So okay. Well, I thi

[1:35:05] that

[1:35:06] s enough on that. The I

[1:35:08] gues the the last questns I

[1:35:08] had is it

[1:35:11] sy under the

[1:35:11] s

[1:35:12] diffent types ofata

[1:35:13] cents. You knowack inhe

[1:35:17] day data center was storage.

[1:35:18] Typically t supportnterprise

[1:35:20] use whereeople wou store

[1:35:21] files and they

[1:35:22] d be accessed

[1:35:24] from time t time, maybe pulled

[1:35:25] off. And if ty were

[1:35:26] manipulated anyway, itas done

[1:35:28] on a mainframer something

[1:35:31] else. These days,ata cenrs

[1:35:32] can be sometng otherhan

[1:35:33] orage. There

[1:35:34] s also da

[1:35:35] ceers that are compute. Those

[1:35:36] arehe ones tha are, you

[1:35:39] know, mining Bitcoin or making,

[1:35:43] you know,I videos of cats

[1:35:45] dog things orhatever is,

[1:35:48] is, is the u here stoge or

[1:35:49] compute?

[1:35:49] Belie it

[1:35:50] a computer.

[1:35:51] It

[1:35:52] st

[1:35:53] s computaon, n

[1:35:53] stage.

[1:35:55] I believe so but I, I again I

[1:35:56] don

[1:35:56] t I can

[1:35:57] t tl you the

[1:35:58] answer t that if y want if

[1:35:59] u want me to ask t questn

[1:36:00] I will get it for you.

[1:36:01] Okay.

[1:36:02] De interested in the

[1:36:03] answer to that questio

[1:36:05] etherhe the t usage of

[1:36:08] th data center is fused on

[1:36:10] storage and retrieval o I

[1:36:10] it

[1:36:12] sn compute.

[1:36:13] I

[1:36:14] m I

[1:36:15] m certain it

[1:36:16] s some of

[1:36:17] some of the lter.

[1:36:17] You

[1:36:18] re ctain that it

[1:36:19] s some

[1:36:22] comput Okay. I think.

[1:36:24] And byirtue some storage.

[1:36:25] Pard me.

[1:36:26] And by virtue of that some

[1:36:28] storage.

[1:36:30] I again athing more than I

[1:36:31] say is going toe based on

[1:36:32] speculatioo I

[1:36:33] m happyo

[1:36:34] try and answer your questio.

[1:36:36] But by someby who kno the

[1:36:36] answer, sure.

[1:36:37] Iuess I

[1:36:38] m interted in what

[1:36:39] the pmary use is. Iean,

[1:36:42] even with a pure compute data

[1:36:42] center, there

[1:36:43] s always going to

[1:36:44] be a ltle bit of stora

[1:36:45] beuse tngs need to be

[1:36:46] stored temporily locally.

[1:36:47] Well the compute worksn it,

[1:36:48] but.

[1:36:49] I c tell y that the oer

[1:36:51] da centers that ion g uses

[1:36:54] is one of of compung as

[1:36:55] opposed to storage.

[1:37:00] Okay, computing. Okay. Tt

[1:37:01] answs my questio Thank you.

[1:37:06] Thank you.

[1:37:08] Mi I, Mikechultz

[1:37:11] apologe, but you mentioned

[1:37:15] iteria five. Can you unpack

[1:37:18] that a lite bit more for me

[1:37:19] in termsf non presentatio

[1:37:24] modend explain it like we

[1:37:24] re

[1:37:26] talking

[1:37:29] Yeah yeah. L meind the code

[1:37:49] here again. So under the iup

[1:37:51] under theup therere a

[1:37:52] number o criteria tt are

[1:37:56] that are listed andnder five.

[1:37:57] Still trying to get to that up

[1:37:58] here.

[1:37:59] Th is the cteria for

[1:38:00] awarding of an iup.

[1:38:01] Ye. Sohere

[1:38:01] s there

[1:38:02] s

[1:38:03] basicay sixriteria. That

[1:38:03] s

[1:38:04] that

[1:38:05] part of it. Wha was

[1:38:05] actually prode in the staff

[1:38:08] reportas the odoor storage

[1:38:10] review criteria, as part part

[1:38:12] of the ruest. So withi

[1:38:14] sically t evaluation

[1:38:16] criteria forust the iup, one

[1:38:18] of the sndards is thathe

[1:38:20] us meets thetandards set

[1:38:22] foh in the zoning regulations

[1:38:23] here in govning cditional

[1:38:25] us permit. So really there

[1:38:27] another layer of the review

[1:38:29] process tt also then gerns

[1:38:31] the iup which I also then the

[1:38:34] Cup review criteria as well. S

[1:38:34] it

[1:38:37] s basal two standards in

[1:38:38] one.

[1:38:39] I think. I

[1:38:40] m not shaking you

[1:38:42] off. Yeah. No, no I.

[1:38:43] I think it

[1:38:44] s because IEPs are

[1:38:46] are few.Hey should be few and

[1:38:48] far between. I thi it

[1:38:48] s

[1:38:50] because we want IEPs to mee a

[1:38:52] highertandard in oer to be

[1:38:55] allowed witn the cit

[1:39:00] Okay. So so this an iup. How

[1:39:03] does it relate to the Cup

[1:39:04] crerion in five? I

[1:39:05] m I

[1:39:06] apologe I

[1:39:07] m sor.

[1:39:08] So basically aft. S you have

[1:39:10] to go up t the end to the cup

[1:39:11] reew criteriahich then

[1:39:15] there are the are then t

[1:39:17] eight criteriaitn the cup.

[1:39:19] Th evaluation witnhat

[1:39:20] they

[1:39:21] basically me general

[1:39:23] publealth and welfare

[1:39:25] bacally stipulations as as

[1:39:26] pa of the condition use

[1:39:28] permit process. SEPs

[1:39:29] tended basically toe

[1:39:31] temporar inature. Yeah,

[1:39:32] certaiy he a sghtly lower

[1:39:35] threshd to meet. But with

[1:39:36] at provisionhathey have

[1:39:38] to be kke up to cup,

[1:39:39] they wanto make surehat

[1:39:40] ev o a tempo manne

[1:39:42] beca you gs have seeep

[1:39:44] can be oner or three years,

[1:39:45] sometime a little bit longer.

[1:39:47] So temrary natures

[1:39:50] subjective a lit bit. So

[1:39:51] basicallyhey areked upo

[1:39:53] that c.He higher cteria.

[1:39:54] One o them, you kw, some o

[1:39:56] the standards being, you know,

[1:39:57] basicallympacts toubc

[1:39:58] are okay.

[1:40:03] Soka

[1:40:03] Just.

[1:40:05] One mor. Yeah.

[1:40:06] Sorry to sll be onhis, but

[1:40:08] Iave more queions authe

[1:40:15] mpute the. Is it tt third

[1:40:18] parties smit a requestor a

[1:40:19] certain typ o computation

[1:40:22] mputation to in Gate? It

[1:40:25] es its thing. And then tho

[1:40:26] third pares get theendered

[1:40:28] sult. Or I a of t

[1:40:31] compe being consumed by iro

[1:40:32] gate itself?

[1:40:32] No, it

[1:40:34] s done third

[1:40:34] party.

[1:40:36] Okay.O third pties mak a

[1:40:39] reestor, y know, tell me

[1:40:41] theest rece for a

[1:40:42] bouiabaisse sce or

[1:40:42] whatever.

[1:40:46] At thirdarties aenants.

[1:40:48] Is aenant o the pperty,

[1:40:50] operes a datenter within

[1:40:52] e pperty.

[1:40:54] Okay, s Iron Gate has mulple

[1:40:57] clienthoolds a svers

[1:41:02] that render compute And d we

[1:41:03] kn whether.

[1:41:04] The tenan MAY bri in

[1:41:06] servers? We MAY bng inhe

[1:41:08] power. We mayring in some of

[1:41:09] infrastructure.

[1:41:12] Okay. And is itwnoho

[1:41:15] tenants o Ironate? A t

[1:41:16] strictly using compute

[1:41:19] capacity for their own internal

[1:41:21] company purs, or do s of

[1:41:23] em receive reqs from the

[1:41:24] general public third

[1:41:26] parties, d the compu and

[1:41:27] en turn over t results?

[1:41:28] I can

[1:41:28] speako that.

[1:41:31] There anybody who could

[1:41:32] I could find out.

[1:41:33] I

[1:41:39] d like you to please. Okay.

[1:41:41] So I

[1:41:41] sure have more

[1:41:42] questions. I d

[1:41:43] t kno i

[1:41:44] that

[1:41:44] going to leado

[1:41:45] answers, s I

[1:41:46] ll. Won

[1:41:47] tsk

[1:41:49] ny o them right now. I

[1:41:50] wouldn

[1:41:50] t md gettingn to at

[1:41:51] least hring fromhe

[1:41:53] neighborsf that wks for

[1:41:54] folks, andhen we canome

[1:41:56] backnd t to unpkome of

[1:41:58] the slls lat on. S

[1:41:59] u

[1:41:59] ll be available aerwards.

[1:42:02] Mike. Absutel Thank you

[1:42:05] an you, thank you. Apologies

[1:42:08] for the eende qstion and

[1:42:10] answer perio I tnk man of

[1:42:11] u we probably I t room

[1:42:14] la week at the apc, and there

[1:42:15] e a lot of movg parts he.

[1:42:16] I thi we

[1:42:17] re we

[1:42:17] re all tryin

[1:42:18] to get I nailedown a lite

[1:42:21] more effecvely So aga, my

[1:42:22] apologies for that. Should

[1:42:25] mentionvalanche two one after

[1:42:28] th fir. Sor, maybe tt

[1:42:28] ll

[1:42:31] chge in t nt 20 minut,

[1:42:32] t. So

[1:42:33] m going to on up

[1:42:34] publ comments, pubc

[1:42:37] commentsn the cncil meeti

[1:42:38] will wkrettyuch the same

[1:42:40] as I did in the apc. We ask

[1:42:42] people tome up. Ifou have

[1:42:44] qutions, fee free t share

[1:42:45] them. W won

[1:42:45] dl with

[1:42:48] questions individuay. We

[1:42:49] ll

[1:42:52] instead keep nes of tm.

[1:42:53] MISS Mler will te notes on

[1:42:56] l t questionseing asked.

[1:42:57] Andhen aer we

[1:42:57] ve ten all

[1:42:58] the commentsnd all the

[1:42:59] questions, we

[1:43:00] ll goack and

[1:43:01] deal with theuestns one at

[1:43:03] a time. T to combine them and

[1:43:05] unck t areas in which ty

[1:43:08] overlap. We ask tha you fee

[1:43:08] free toomep and make

[1:43:10] whatever comnts youo. If

[1:43:12] mebody hasade the same

[1:43:14] commts as y, simple I

[1:43:15] age wh so-and-so would

[1:43:17] suffice And we can maybe g

[1:43:18] out of he I time f t

[1:43:21] thir perdr the. Ove time

[1:43:21] we

[1:43:23] ll fdut. So with tha

[1:43:24] I

[1:43:25] llpen up theic. A, you

[1:43:27] ow, generally speaking, four

[1:43:29] minute m ifou come in at

[1:43:32] two, I c MAY look for se

[1:43:35] gold sta tive you.Ut

[1:43:36] there

[1:43:37] so sinn goinghort

[1:43:38] We askhat you really d

[1:43:39] t go

[1:43:39] along bause we

[1:43:40] goi to be

[1:43:40] in he for long enoh

[1:43:42] tonight,st is. So with

[1:43:43] that, I

[1:43:44] ll on up tic. Any

[1:43:45] members of theubli who wan

[1:43:48] to comme on the propose

[1:43:50] terim u permit rarding

[1:43:53] the former Unisys building?

[1:43:53] I

[1:43:55] ll jt shorten uphatay.

[1:43:56] All rig. I

[1:43:59] ll do it Oka

[1:43:59] I

[1:44:01] gett done. W

[1:44:01] t be f

[1:44:06] mineithe.

[1:44:06] As long ast

[1:44:07] s not eig.

[1:44:17] Decracs sometim slo and

[1:44:18] painful, but I am grateful for

[1:44:19] . Mr.Ayor Eaganity

[1:44:20] uncil members.Y name i

[1:44:20] John Gtin. During the nearl

[1:44:21] yea weived at061

[1:44:22] Woodlark Lane,y wife a I

[1:44:23] ha bee privileged to s our

[1:44:25] beautil cityrow and proer

[1:44:26] dor the good our

[1:44:29] communy. Mos of us. Tnk

[1:44:30] you, COUNCILMAN Subenaor

[1:44:32] viting with my next door

[1:44:34] nehbor, Peteailm, lt

[1:44:36] Thuraynd walking with h

[1:44:38] ronate Dataenter.

[1:44:39] Numberfears ago. I was

[1:44:41] involvedith timbeine

[1:44:44] Civissociation, and we

[1:44:45] fought toeep a propey on

[1:44:47] the cornerfilot Kb and

[1:44:48] Lonokeoads fro becoming a

[1:44:50] g artmentouse, and n w

[1:44:52] havehe beautif Timberle

[1:44:53] Village, wch is a senior

[1:44:54] community that

[1:44:55] s tiving. I

[1:44:56] was als on the airrt noi

[1:45:00] commtee f a while aft

[1:45:01] ma of us cplaid abo

[1:45:04] this. The noise we h he

[1:45:06] th In Gate, whie found

[1:45:10] out was Iro Ge. The wl w

[1:45:12] built and the secd study

[1:45:14] shs acceptabl noi lels.

[1:45:15] Trank, Ion

[1:45:16] t knowhat

[1:45:18] to belve at ts point.

[1:45:19] Nest, n disreect

[1:45:22] intend to anybody here today.

[1:45:22] I d

[1:45:23] t know exalyhat to

[1:45:25] believe. I don

[1:45:26] t kw ifear

[1:45:28] th noise allhe time. I don

[1:45:28] t

[1:45:33] ink do. But anywa, iron

[1:45:35] ga dat Cente like all of

[1:45:38] them is a pasite. Now.

[1:45:38] Ey

[1:45:39] re everywhere a at oe,

[1:45:40] ande

[1:45:41] ve g one und

[1:45:42] consuctionver here in

[1:45:43] Eagan, rig next tomes I

[1:45:45] Inverrove Heits. And I

[1:45:47] applaudour decision t at

[1:45:48] least temporaly pau new

[1:45:50] delopmts pending further

[1:45:52] reviewnd study. These data

[1:45:54] centers cate an additional

[1:45:55] laye o constant nse and

[1:45:57] vibration, wch we cizen

[1:45:59] must conte wh. They

[1:46:00] ot

[1:46:02] on fewermanent jobs, and

[1:46:04] yes,hey bring I tax dollars,

[1:46:05] buthey all suckn

[1:46:06] unbelievabmoun of

[1:46:09] elecicity. Rea tapers.

[1:46:10] Lo, tre are plenty of

[1:46:12] udie I indated MISS

[1:46:14] Hutmacher with a bch of sff

[1:46:15] forhich I

[1:46:15] m aamed becau

[1:46:16] it

[1:46:17] sustay toouch da o

[1:46:18] thistuff They

[1:46:18] reoing to

[1:46:21] deple our oy close system.

[1:46:22] Sods good. That

[1:46:22] s good. Me

[1:46:23] effient? That

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[1:46:27] and water bil are goi to go

[1:46:29] up.Ur property values willo

[1:46:31] down So what

[1:46:32] gd for

[1:46:33] businesss not aays good for

[1:46:35] e community. These people

[1:46:37] have got nkin in t ge.

[1:46:38] They don

[1:46:38] tiveere.Hey

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[1:46:40] t send tirhildren t

[1:46:41] scolere o shop her Ty

[1:46:43] answer the bses and

[1:46:45] shareholders. Sewhe outside

[1:46:47] Minnesota. Thinkaybe

[1:46:49] mewherep a cha of

[1:46:50] bsidiaries, spin os,

[1:46:54] ltip Ls,ron gates not

[1:46:56] a gd neighbor. The

[1:46:57] fired

[1:46:58] up their cller iniolation

[1:47:00] of theonin ordinces. N

[1:47:01] they b forgiveness It

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[1:47:03] zone r&d.Hey sayt is.

[1:47:06] Well, wteve Anyway,ll the

[1:47:08] constrtion perts they

[1:47:10] submit should be ceful

[1:47:11] reviewed to ensure they meet

[1:47:13] all ces.Verying mt be

[1:47:14] enrcedtricy b the book

[1:47:15] they

[1:47:16] already swn. It

[1:47:17] nnot be trued. I was he

[1:47:18] rst a I

[1:47:18] mot going to

[1:47:23] move.O I implore you toet

[1:47:24] do what you need to d not to

[1:47:27] lethings go any furer.

[1:47:28] Thank youery much.

[1:47:31] Than you

[1:47:33] Thanks.

[1:47:36] Additional cment. W

[1:47:37] ll ask

[1:47:39] what we refin fromutbursts.

[1:47:41] Good evening.Ayorouncil.

[1:47:44] Kath Peterson Iive at77

[1:47:45] Tier Wood Tra, fairly new

[1:47:48] Eagan. I was ae to aend

[1:47:50] th planning mting lt week

[1:47:50] and

[1:47:52] m learning aot. I

[1:47:53] m

[1:47:55] here to encourage the cncil

[1:47:57] toccept the 6 to 0

[1:47:59] recoendaon ohe

[1:48:01] Commsion to deny the intim

[1:48:05] us permit. I als wante to

[1:48:09] askfy memory o that

[1:48:12] sessio last week was is

[1:48:15] coect, tha t alica was

[1:48:19] told tt any expen engaged

[1:48:22] in offor toeal wit the

[1:48:25] sound issue the the noise

[1:48:28] pollion were t be undertake

[1:48:29] at the appcant

[1:48:31] s risk. Rht.

[1:48:31] E cy didn

[1:48:33] tell the tt

[1:48:34] ey h too that, or they

[1:48:36] should do tt. Ty we told,

[1:48:38] asnderstand I thatt

[1:48:39] woul be at theireril and

[1:48:41] thatt d not necessaly

[1:48:43] an that any interse

[1:48:44] rmitould in fact be

[1:48:47] appred. I tnkhathere

[1:48:47] s

[1:48:49] be a l of gd queion a

[1:48:50] aner here tay to kd of

[1:48:55] point out how this haseen

[1:48:56] non-tradiona I gss that

[1:48:57] s

[1:48:57] the word we

[1:48:58] llettln

[1:49:00] non-traditiol. A I

[1:49:01] meeply

[1:49:03] concerned. There

[1:49:03] s the

[1:49:05] tempary iss. A then we

[1:49:05] do

[1:49:07] even necessarily tk

[1:49:10] toght about the the pernent

[1:49:11] ise, where t times the

[1:49:13] nuers of cller it sous

[1:49:17] li, a going to be. If the

[1:49:20] applicant mov forwa.

[1:49:23] Instald in a masonry

[1:49:26] clos.As loong at the

[1:49:28] infoatio Was a mechani

[1:49:31] yard, mechanical yar right

[1:49:35] anyway, thi

[1:49:35] m I

[1:49:36] m

[1:49:40] encouraging us t say no ao

[1:49:43] uphohe curnt zong which

[1:49:45] is for r&d. As we

[1:49:47] ve hit o

[1:49:49] data cter mea aery

[1:49:51] dieren thing. A disssed

[1:49:54] as part of Unisys. Is tt

[1:49:56] really t corct way? Anyy,

[1:49:57] as part o that company

[1:49:59] s

[1:50:02] resech andevelment? And

[1:50:03] cleay we can

[1:50:03] haven

[1:50:06] cessy uhenheres no

[1:50:07] prary use otherhan being a

[1:50:09] data cenr. I mean, a I

[1:50:10] ked the analogy wever

[1:50:13] somee he made abo the

[1:50:15] prive home withhe cars

[1:50:19] parked. Sonow youll know

[1:50:22] the stuto code in the law.

[1:50:25] An thenterim use pmit MAY

[1:50:26] issued.T cerinly doesn

[1:50:29] have to be issued. I rlly

[1:50:31] ta issue with myuick rd

[1:50:34] the attorney

[1:50:35] sette fm

[1:50:39] MAY 3, which somehow creates

[1:50:40] someense of entitmentr

[1:50:42] right or a vgehat they

[1:50:44] ther you know, that this

[1:50:45] wod be arbitra and

[1:50:48] capricious it were died

[1:50:49] and notng coue furth

[1:50:54] fr the case. This is not wt

[1:50:57] thiseighrhood wants,ot

[1:50:59] what this nghborhood needs.

[1:50:59] It

[1:51:01] sot consient with the

[1:51:03] an of t cit cncil It

[1:51:05] abs our cmuni center and

[1:51:07] ou nature trails. This would

[1:51:11] ben abomination. And I, I am

[1:51:11] happy tha the

[1:51:12] s bee better

[1:51:15] clarificion here today aut

[1:51:17] the secon lay onalysis,

[1:51:21] which says that t pmit, the

[1:51:24] condionase perts can

[1:51:26] ly bessuedf it finhe

[1:51:29] use at the prosed location

[1:51:31] consisnt with eht sepate

[1:51:32] factors, wch I wl not

[1:51:33] reci bause I kw you a

[1:51:36] know the fm subvisi fou

[1:51:39] c. Br. Sultz hhliged

[1:51:41] on only twof the eht. He

[1:51:43] hitn wheer it

[1:51:44] d b

[1:51:46] detrimenl to o endanger

[1:51:47] public heah, safy or

[1:51:48] general welref the

[1:51:50] neigorho or city. And then

[1:51:54] the involvement and use of

[1:51:55] marial that wou be

[1:51:59] zardous.T cetera, e.. But

[1:52:01] I think itertalyill not

[1:52:03] be harniou with t general

[1:52:04] d alicable spefic

[1:52:07] objeives ohe cy pla and

[1:52:08] e cess currently

[1:52:09] esblisd. Thi I

[1:52:10] t an

[1:52:12] effort b this organizion to

[1:52:14] come in a g a alternati

[1:52:17] land use permi and just

[1:52:20] nnot implore you eugh to

[1:52:23] sayo, thank you. Okay.

[1:52:24] Addional comnts plee. I

[1:52:25] askhat we refra from

[1:52:31] applause orutbut. If the

[1:52:33] wild score goal y c plot.

[1:52:34] Andhey haven

[1:52:36] t.

[1:52:40] Thk you,ayor andounc.

[1:52:41] Just goi to help y out a

[1:52:42] little bit. Iot about 30

[1:52:44] yearsf industrial

[1:52:47] intence. The old system,

[1:52:49] d m humble opinion w it

[1:52:51] s water cooled. S the

[1:52:52] refrigeran gs out

[1:52:53] It gs a nameeal quick.

[1:52:56] Oh, Joe Krueger, t water,he

[1:52:58] coolan refrigentoes o,

[1:52:58] drop it

[1:52:59] s

[1:52:59] d.

[1:53:01] And it comes bk h.Nd I

[1:53:03] would kindfike your car

[1:53:04] diator. There

[1:53:05] s fan and

[1:53:06] en it

[1:53:08] ll droater across

[1:53:09] e pes.Hat

[1:53:11] s where t

[1:53:13] however man thoand galns a

[1:53:14] y gets eporated off. Tt

[1:53:16] ols it bk down, cires

[1:53:19] back t your compresr to me

[1:53:25] it cd again,nd send it out

[1:53:26] tha was yourld water

[1:53:27] base, a no one

[1:53:27] s got

[1:53:30] refrigerant. Pbably better

[1:53:31] athosere. They

[1:53:32] reot up

[1:53:32] the n. Tt isn

[1:53:33] terious

[1:53:38] machiny for 53 foot trailers.

[1:53:38] It

[1:53:39] s more tha ever ho

[1:53:42] work o I oy had m biggest

[1:53:44] portable was o onerailers

[1:53:47] and 6000 horse,ut it was a

[1:53:51] air comesso. So onhe on

[1:53:52] th noise, when you

[1:53:52] hearing

[1:53:54] a different noise levels and

[1:53:54] th

[1:53:55] re saying three chillers

[1:53:57] are rning ty run o what

[1:53:58] s

[1:54:05] called.Ontious load.O or

[1:54:06] just a continuous runo the

[1:54:08] tors not mad to tn off

[1:54:10] and on. If y want to desoy

[1:54:11] an electri motor turnt off

[1:54:14] and on aot. That iushf

[1:54:15] pera when y turnt on it

[1:54:17] stts breakg down. Yr the

[1:54:19] installation and t windings.

[1:54:21] An you can s byeye t your

[1:54:24] electricotor lot soone So

[1:54:25] at the theyun as

[1:54:28] contuous use mot a it

[1:54:29] ll

[1:54:30] shut o eventually.Ike if

[1:54:31] it

[1:54:31] s a the

[1:54:32] ll be a timer if

[1:54:32] you, ift dsn

[1:54:33] t g a load

[1:54:35] for 1 mines, a half hr,

[1:54:35] then it

[1:54:36] ll tel it t te

[1:54:39] self offline That

[1:54:40] sf they

[1:54:42] will havet setp that w.

[1:54:43] Bu generalhey

[1:54:43] re notade

[1:54:45] toome off and on.O yes you

[1:54:46] cod have had teehills

[1:54:47] running.Hat doesn

[1:54:48] t mean

[1:54:48] th

[1:54:49] re under ld. If ty

[1:54:50] re

[1:54:50] der load ty

[1:54:51] re working. And

[1:54:51] if it

[1:54:52] shiller they make a

[1:54:54] lot me noise. Ifou

[1:54:55] ve got

[1:54:58] an elericotor withnd I

[1:54:59] not worki, it

[1:55:00] s just sitng

[1:55:01] spiing.Our vacm

[1:55:02] eane canake more nse

[1:55:07] th tha So. And I

[1:55:08] d echo

[1:55:09] some of thether folks

[1:55:11] ntimts aut the data

[1:55:13] ceer. Tnk y f your te.

[1:55:18] Adtional cmenteah.

[1:55:19] Thankou,r. Mor. Andity

[1:55:21] Cocil reallyppreate the

[1:55:22] line of queioningonig. It

[1:55:24] was very enlhteng. I would

[1:55:25] say we he toay.

[1:55:26] Iopet was enlighting to

[1:55:27] somedy, but.

[1:55:29] Still got aot of questns.

[1:55:30] Ght? Yeah, I woulday you

[1:55:31] have to say no uil you kw

[1:55:32] what t e games. We

[1:55:34] talking aemporary permit. I

[1:55:35] ge thatight But entually

[1:55:36] ere

[1:55:37] s going toe eht

[1:55:39] llersf y belie theo

[1:55:40] far, what I

[1:55:40] seen in two

[1:55:42] sepate meetings is I can

[1:55:43] t

[1:55:44] tell whathe realruth is. I

[1:55:44] ca

[1:55:45] t tell wre you

[1:55:45] re goi

[1:55:46] to end up. Have no ideahat

[1:55:46] they

[1:55:47] reoing to do, and

[1:55:49] neither do we.O does ds

[1:55:52] alwinghe temporary pmit

[1:55:55] anyay iratiate us to the

[1:55:56] nextevelermihich w

[1:55:57] ha no idea what it

[1:55:58] sor y.

[1:55:59] And even I they told u we

[1:55:59] woul

[1:56:00] t believehem. So

[1:56:01] that

[1:56:02] sne comment The oth

[1:56:04] things, was it two yrs ago

[1:56:05] weut our yea ago, weut

[1:56:07] togeer the three poplar plans

[1:56:09] fo theorthwestommonsrea.

[1:56:11] Right. I tnk the smallt

[1:56:12] plann termsf the number of

[1:56:14] ne residents your nex door

[1:56:16] nehborsas 250 new

[1:56:18] residents, up to 1000 new

[1:56:19] residents. Weeed a bger

[1:56:21] room.F that happe, you

[1:56:21] re

[1:56:22] gonna have a l of complaints.

[1:56:24] Thank you. Oh,y the way

[1:56:26] liven MacArthur roadnd my

[1:56:27] daughterives inhe same

[1:56:28] nehborhoodn Red Ced Roa

[1:56:30] n Sprigg, m wife, m Spa.

[1:56:31] Thank y.

[1:56:37] Thk y. Additiol comment.

[1:56:39] Od evening.

[1:56:41] Myame is Mariaorowi a

[1:56:43] we live at three 106 Pilot Knob

[1:56:45] Road My famil and I hav

[1:56:46] live in Eagan f about eht

[1:56:48] yes,o I thi this mting

[1:56:50] today was really helul. It

[1:56:52] anered some qstio and I

[1:56:54] think right now what Iave I

[1:56:56] ybe some clafyinuestions

[1:56:58] that wean address follong

[1:57:01] is session. But fromhepc

[1:57:03] meetg thatappenedast

[1:57:05] week,t was alled to tha if

[1:57:10] the iup was approved and the

[1:57:11] ir gateas given, tt the

[1:57:13] sixonth permit, tt tt

[1:57:16] would automatically then all

[1:57:18] them t srt buildgnd

[1:57:20] instlatif the mhanil

[1:57:22] yard whi from the rort

[1:57:23] liev includesight

[1:57:25] peanenthills, eht dry

[1:57:27] cools and someome other

[1:57:30] machiner tt the pubc wld

[1:57:31] theno longe be ae to

[1:57:33] comment on. And Ion

[1:57:33] t I don

[1:57:33] t

[1:57:34] nessarily kwf there

[1:57:34] s a

[1:57:36] separateermit for iut it

[1:57:38] would be condere operations

[1:57:40] as ual.O I just wt to

[1:57:41] clarify,ounow what this

[1:57:43] decisiononighteall mea

[1:57:45] in terms of that fureor the

[1:57:48] mechicalard. Then also

[1:57:49] toda we heardbout the

[1:57:51] baseline mitoring. And what I

[1:57:52] thout Ieard is thathe the

[1:57:54] modeling tha was don really

[1:57:56] kes intoccou allhat

[1:57:58] ambit noise coming from Pilot

[1:58:00] Knoboad airplanes, anythg

[1:58:02] kehat. S I jus wan to

[1:58:04] tternderstand how was the

[1:58:06] actualoiserom thehillers

[1:58:07] asur? And I wean get a

[1:58:09] ext measurement onhat,

[1:58:11] taking asidehe aient nse,

[1:58:13] given that there I dinity

[1:58:15] a diffent frequencyhat y

[1:58:16] know, ronathrough our

[1:58:16] house, we

[1:58:17] re directly across

[1:58:18] the strt.

[1:58:19] Ve been sepin

[1:58:20] in t basement for the past

[1:58:22] three mons now,o defitel

[1:58:27] feelt. And then se of t

[1:58:30] other queions we h. So I

[1:58:32] think jt some o t actions

[1:58:34] to be condere I one of the

[1:58:36] rerts tt was giv to you

[1:58:38] was som sortfontrol system

[1:58:40] ccks aalances. So I

[1:58:41] just want toee clari on

[1:58:42] that. Whahat would loo

[1:58:44] li,nd if it wld include

[1:58:46] noe studies and at wha

[1:58:48] pointsn time. And how do we

[1:58:49] ashe public, ensure that

[1:58:51] there I aually a process in

[1:58:53] placend, and tha we hav

[1:58:55] availabity tome of tha

[1:58:59] communicion. And thenlso

[1:59:00] just want tommentust from

[1:59:02] ou personal eerience, we

[1:59:05] notice thathe noise is muc

[1:59:07] gher o wknigs, lik

[1:59:09] righ arod tt 10 P.M. T2

[1:59:12] a. Range and theneekes as

[1:59:13] ll,hich I belve ishen

[1:59:14] somef t firstomplnts

[1:59:16] from residents weressue s

[1:59:17] thinkt

[1:59:17] s important to

[1:59:20] consider thatny sortf

[1:59:22] ture process as the

[1:59:22] not

[1:59:23] ju storing, the

[1:59:23] re operating

[1:59:25] th chiers. So I wt to

[1:59:27] clary tha that I would

[1:59:29] include moniting,ou know,

[1:59:30] constantly including t

[1:59:31] weeken, because that

[1:59:31] s whe

[1:59:32] we

[1:59:32] reome. We

[1:59:33] renjoying o

[1:59:33] hos, we

[1:59:35] reardening. All

[1:59:38] those tngs. And then Iould

[1:59:40] say mbe last questions if

[1:59:41] there

[1:59:42] s a delineaon in tho

[1:59:46] MPCa standards about wha how,

[1:59:47] you know, constt noi tt

[1:59:47] s

[1:59:50] 24 over sen I measure And

[1:59:52] those decibel levelsersu

[1:59:52] nois that

[1:59:53] s o and o,

[1:59:54] becaus w know tha this is

[1:59:57] this I cstant. And so I

[1:59:57] think tha

[2:00:00] quite difrent

[2:00:03] Andhen as far as shepec

[2:00:04] etin thereere some

[2:00:06] coents fro memrshat

[2:00:08] aldedo pottialezoning

[2:00:09] to an iustrl area. A I

[2:00:11] wod just agreeith my fellow

[2:00:13] member that w areot in

[2:00:15] agreement that o area should

[2:00:19] beezoned and that placing the

[2:00:21] uipmentutsi versus, you

[2:00:23] kn, chaingome of the

[2:00:24] officepace sortf a

[2:00:26] ophole arod somefhe

[2:00:28] perctage required for office

[2:00:30] space. Sot wld definitely

[2:00:31] ju want mor information on

[2:00:45] that as wel So thank you.

[2:00:46] Than you, MR. Mayor. And City

[2:00:48] Cocil, I appciat all your

[2:00:48] hard.

[2:00:49] Rk and.

[2:00:51] E my questio tt were

[2:00:54] raised tonight My name I Tim

[2:00:57] Stead. Le at 3045

[2:00:58] Timberwolf Trail I

[2:00:59] veeen a

[2:01:04] sidentfagan for 25 years.

[2:01:07] I do appciat mhf the

[2:01:08] information tt the attney

[2:01:11] gave in his letr. Andven

[2:01:13] he tonight, I think hes

[2:01:15] really trygard to explain

[2:01:17] us what w going o But

[2:01:18] unfounaty, I don

[2:01:18] t agree

[2:01:21] with him because I can

[2:01:25] undetandhis argumenhat

[2:01:26] sohowhewner dn

[2:01:27] tnow

[2:01:30] that aermiould be neede

[2:01:30] That

[2:01:30] shat

[2:01:31] ve been heang

[2:01:33] st week. And now ain

[2:01:37] toght jus week agoe

[2:01:38] had aery unfortunate

[2:01:42] expeencen our house o

[2:01:45] war softer bw upnd tt

[2:01:47] was a really qte a chaenge

[2:01:49] i had to get plumber and the

[2:01:51] umber was vy qck to get a

[2:01:54] building or a pert from the

[2:01:57] ci, a I paidhe $75or

[2:01:59] that permi It wasll well

[2:02:01] and good. And I

[2:02:01] ll tl y

[2:02:02] what, was s thankful for

[2:02:04] that inspector w came t our

[2:02:08] hoe right away and glad

[2:02:11] beuse I knew tn I thoht

[2:02:12] e plumber was doi a great

[2:02:15] job. Ande did. But it ge me

[2:02:16] e assurance thathis wasll

[2:02:21] doneorrectly. Now, tha

[2:02:21] a

[2:02:24] mple thing At ourrevious

[2:02:27] houseown a bea path tra,

[2:02:29] hado replace the furnace a

[2:02:33] the ac unit outside, and I h

[2:02:35] to pay pmits f that. I was

[2:02:36] just understd that tha

[2:02:36] s

[2:02:38] methg we he to do.

[2:02:39] Ythinghat

[2:02:40] s inse or

[2:02:42] outside of our house. We have

[2:02:43] to go thrgh theity

[2:02:46] regutions and codes. S what

[2:02:46] I

[2:02:48] m tryin t sayere is tha

[2:02:49] Iave concern about the lk

[2:02:51] ofransrency.

[2:02:52] Mot reall

[2:02:55] re I agreeith the oer

[2:02:56] peophat have sken he

[2:02:59] tonighonig, thathis

[2:03:02] confusion that w expienc

[2:03:03] least in our neiborhd

[2:03:04] d the srounng

[2:03:07] neighborhoods wha els is

[2:03:09] ing to happe and what

[2:03:09] s

[2:03:11] gog to happen to our property

[2:03:14] vaes in our nghboood? Now

[2:03:14] we

[2:03:16] veot the safety concerns

[2:03:19] with nse migatn and all

[2:03:21] that.Nd wou really hop

[2:03:24] th I this business conties

[2:03:26] dhey do install eig more

[2:03:28] coolers andhey have a big

[2:03:29] wallroun it, tha that

[2:03:31] going to sol the issueut I

[2:03:33] wonder I there hav been oth

[2:03:36] udie that hav been de

[2:03:37] where tho kind o situaons

[2:03:41] have ested where they

[2:03:41] ve put

[2:03:45] in a wal with that many

[2:03:47] cools, doe it solvehe

[2:03:49] issu for noise? I mean, that

[2:03:50] should be a splehing to

[2:03:53] diover somehow. And I wld I

[2:03:54] would hope tt theompa

[2:03:57] wouldome acrosnd help

[2:03:58] produc thatype of

[2:03:59] information. S tt

[2:04:00] s jt my

[2:04:02] $02 on it, really.Hank you

[2:04:04] for that. A Io agr with

[2:04:06] the others about not giving

[2:04:09] th a pmit. Thankou.

[2:04:16] Ank you.

[2:04:18] Od evening mayor. M name is

[2:04:20] ug Dexter. I livet060

[2:04:21] Woodlark Lane, rht across the

[2:04:24] strerom MR. Gustin there.

[2:04:27] So my bacard is pitching

[2:04:29] wedgeway fro the chillers.

[2:04:32] An Igree with erythg my

[2:04:33] neighbor have.

[2:04:34] Pitcng wedge I a varble

[2:04:35] meurement. Younow.

[2:04:37] And a kckedown into t

[2:04:42] wind Lot of great pois wer

[2:04:44] made. I, agreeith all of

[2:04:45] that. And it

[2:04:47] sard to loo at

[2:04:49] the studies and and trust

[2:04:50] them at a. Ihink they

[2:04:50] re

[2:04:52] questionable at best.O I

[2:04:54] would ue the to bore

[2:04:55] udies a Butore than tt,

[2:04:58] plea just s n to this and

[2:05:00] do n approve this. O pnt

[2:05:01] I

[2:05:01] d le to rai, and i

[2:05:02] keep thisrief tha hn

[2:05:03] t

[2:05:04] en brought up yet is t

[2:05:06] poteial impact of this l

[2:05:08] fruenc nse on cldre

[2:05:09] There are aot of young

[2:05:11] familiesnhe neighborhoo

[2:05:11] The

[2:05:12] s a schoo pilot Knob

[2:05:15] Elementary, rht aosshe

[2:05:17] marsh fm from tse chills.

[2:05:20] Andhere are long tm impac

[2:05:20] onhildren

[2:05:21] searings fro

[2:05:23] th perstent l fquen

[2:05:25] noise. Joh Hkins did a

[2:05:27] sty on ts, a it olines

[2:05:28] the negativ long tm impacts

[2:05:31] th these l freency,

[2:05:33] persistent nses from mhine

[2:05:34] su as thesehills c hav

[2:05:37] onhildren.O withhat said,

[2:05:39] Irge theounc t deny

[2:05:44] th. Thieque. So tnk

[2:05:51] u vy much.

[2:05:53] Od ening. My nes Bill

[2:05:55] Jacko. I live iagan. I don

[2:05:55] t

[2:05:58] live adjacentohis, t this

[2:05:59] facility, but I have an

[2:06:01] interestnhe proliferaon

[2:06:03] of data centers arod the

[2:06:06] cotry. Anyhow, fir of all,

[2:06:08] thank y, MAY, for the

[2:06:10] rigous queion. I thinkhat

[2:06:11] wasreat I reallppreciate

[2:06:13] that Several things I wt to

[2:06:17] y one believe that the

[2:06:18] with the conptf data center,

[2:06:20] when back I987as totally

[2:06:22] different than h it is

[2:06:23] perceid today, the

[2:06:23] so way

[2:06:26] u can say that how aata

[2:06:27] cent w use back then. You

[2:06:29] know, 40 years a orhater

[2:06:31] iss inny wayonsistent

[2:06:32] withhat theirlan is for the

[2:06:35] us ofhat facility today.

[2:06:38] mber two in vw ofow

[2:06:38] they

[2:06:39] ve aeady kind of bken

[2:06:41] the lawn the in inslling

[2:06:44] those tporahillers and

[2:06:45] not havg a pn for wt the

[2:06:47] tent t do with that. T

[2:06:48] ultimatelan for that

[2:06:51] cility. It sms like ts I

[2:06:52] is being de aroundhe

[2:06:53] countr where you kinf break

[2:06:54] things fst andsk for

[2:06:56] forgivenes o ask for

[2:06:57] forgenes ler. Ielie

[2:06:58] it

[2:06:59] s a baday to d things.

[2:07:01] You shod in, first of all go

[2:07:03] inhere with a dinite plan,

[2:07:05] get appval for that pn, a

[2:07:07] then proceed wit an appved

[2:07:10] an. And justastl I

[2:07:12] believhat ts their

[2:07:15] propedses ionsient

[2:07:17] with both the landse pla for

[2:07:21] the area and als for the data

[2:07:24] center restrictis tt we

[2:07:27] ha in thi in ts city.

[2:07:30] Thank you.

[2:07:39] Additial comments.

[2:07:41] My ne is Jun a this isy

[2:07:43] sister alm w

[2:07:43] liv in

[2:07:46] Ean for s years. We le at

[2:07:49] 3060oon Lane, wch is really

[2:07:53] cle t t subject site.

[2:07:53] We

[2:07:54] re worried aut the conrt

[2:07:57] sod because eve a lik the

[2:08:00] acptable levels of2 to

[2:08:03] 51db.

[2:08:05] Can aectleep and stress

[2:08:07] vels Whe you eeriee

[2:08:08] cotantly, it dsn

[2:08:09] t seem

[2:08:12] right to havet closeo hom

[2:08:14] and the schl.

[2:08:16] So w wouldrge yuys to

[2:08:19] deine this ruest Thank

[2:08:20] yo

[2:08:22] Thk you.

[2:08:35] Adtional comnts.

[2:08:36] It

[2:08:36] s goingo b hard to bea

[2:08:39] thos two for aold star. My

[2:08:41] name is anattis and I live a

[2:08:43] 3083 Timberwolf Trail, and I

[2:08:45] belie that our home,ur

[2:08:46] wnho, we

[2:08:46] re part of t

[2:08:47] Timberwolfillage townhome

[2:08:49] communy. Believe tt our

[2:08:50] partularownhes les

[2:08:53] than00ft fm those cller

[2:08:54] And a question haves, is

[2:08:57] that anpproiate distance?

[2:08:59] That seemsretty cse to m

[2:09:00] and we have the add pleure

[2:09:02] ofooking athem o of all

[2:09:04] of our windows I

[2:09:05] m goingo be

[2:09:06] ve bef. I agree wit many

[2:09:08] of the commes. I appciate

[2:09:10] all ofhe extra information. I

[2:09:11] too am lrnin an incdible

[2:09:12] amount of infmatibout

[2:09:12] ings reallyidn

[2:09:13] t want t

[2:09:18] know, but toour cret,agan

[2:09:20] got aot of media attention

[2:09:22] forutti a pau onata

[2:09:24] nter expansions, going from

[2:09:25] four chiller to eht chiller

[2:09:26] whenhey already hhat

[2:09:27] anne Sous le an

[2:09:31] expaion t me. Hopehat

[2:09:33] u decline ando notppro

[2:09:36] thr reque. Thanks.

[2:09:42] Adtion comments.

[2:09:43] Good eveng. Tha you for

[2:09:44] being he, and thank you for

[2:09:46] steng. And thank y f

[2:09:48] e lef questioning. I was

[2:09:49] at the council ohe planning

[2:09:51] meeting las week,nd between

[2:09:52] last weekndhis week, I

[2:09:52] ve

[2:09:53] leard aot. I

[2:09:53] ll goack to

[2:09:55] my ne. M ne isegan

[2:09:57] McAnews. Those are som of my

[2:09:59] babysitters back there. I live

[2:10:03] at06 on Loonane. I am not

[2:10:05] an attorney. I

[2:10:05] m n a zonin

[2:10:06] pert I

[2:10:07] veearn so muc

[2:10:08] from Mik I thankedim aer

[2:10:10] last Thursy becau I was

[2:10:10] ally blownway with the

[2:10:13] presentation. B I doake a

[2:10:14] common sen approach toost

[2:10:15] thgs inife, and that

[2:10:16] s wha

[2:10:16] I

[2:10:17] m aing youo doonig.

[2:10:18] D I

[2:10:19] m asking you t use

[2:10:24] mmon sse asou vote. A

[2:10:25] uple of things that stand o

[2:10:27] me. You firstine of

[2:10:28] estiing, MAY, I thought,

[2:10:31] was spot on. When y make a

[2:10:32] investment thisarge I wld

[2:10:33] image theery firsthing

[2:10:35] at y would looknto is the

[2:10:36] zoni for theroperty. And as

[2:10:38] otrsave alluded to,ata

[2:10:40] centers in 17 are n what

[2:10:42] da centersreoday MR.

[2:10:43] Bakk, you ao asked se

[2:10:46] grt qstions and got se

[2:10:48] informion from t applicant

[2:10:50] on the type of chiers. Do

[2:10:53] wa to belear las wee we

[2:10:56] lened tha t te ofermi

[2:10:57] chillers tha are being alied

[2:10:57] fo theon

[2:10:59] t use wat,

[2:10:59] th

[2:11:00] re not tatersing

[2:11:02] ones, but the do use lik an

[2:11:03] inedible aunt of

[2:11:04] ectrity. There

[2:11:04] s tde

[2:11:06] off with data cterooli

[2:11:08] systems.Ou either the use

[2:11:09] use a ton ofater or a ton o

[2:11:10] electrity. So thenes that

[2:11:10] they

[2:11:12] veppli forse a ton

[2:11:15] of electricity I think the

[2:11:16] wonho justpoke before me

[2:11:17] al took cmonsense

[2:11:19] apoach to math, which isf

[2:11:20] we

[2:11:22] ret 4 ofccesries now

[2:11:24] with the da center,ith

[2:11:27] thre tin flatbed temrary

[2:11:29] chillers, I imagi that eight

[2:11:32] seems le aost double that.

[2:11:33] Iss also alignedith

[2:11:33] marking.

[2:11:34] M a milleial, s

[2:11:36] ofourse Iust got on the

[2:11:37] internet a looked up

[2:11:39] everhing I could on Iro Gate,

[2:11:40] and y can find rendering o

[2:11:42] theropodataente It

[2:11:42] s

[2:11:44] out there Lks lik a nn

[2:11:46] blue spaship and I

[2:11:49] wrapped in aarbe wire fence.

[2:11:51] Very welming, I tnk. View

[2:11:51] whenou

[2:11:52] re driving dow Pilot

[2:11:55] Knob io oonderful city.

[2:11:55] That

[2:11:57] s sarstic comment.

[2:11:59] There.

[2:12:00] Thanks for poiing itut.

[2:12:02] Yes,es, yesor tho that

[2:12:02] don

[2:12:04] t know me, ao o the

[2:12:05] maetin materials, I is

[2:12:06] clearly stated it

[2:12:07] a

[2:12:08] co-locion cter. S as I

[2:12:09] arnbout data centers,he

[2:12:12] colo center is whe they lse

[2:12:15] itut t various tenan a

[2:12:17] it is mketed up to a capacity

[2:12:21] of 30mw.O n at nin at

[2:12:25] 46%, the Unisys se was at

[2:12:27] ne megatts. Mik shad

[2:12:28] some gre information about

[2:12:30] other Eagan dataente ses

[2:12:32] thatre a well under ten. I

[2:12:34] lieve ne ofhose are zoned

[2:12:38] for r. Commo sensepproach.

[2:12:40] This is zon for r.T

[2:12:41] s

[2:12:42] surrnded by our beautiful

[2:12:45] park, beautiful greenpace.

[2:12:46] The bluff is one o my favorite

[2:12:48] placeso walk. I walk pt the

[2:12:50] si and in thi nghborhood

[2:12:52] androunowno theohe

[2:12:53] communy center, t the

[2:12:54] playound t the farme

[2:12:57] rket Preyuch every day.

[2:13:00] And lt my tra of tught

[2:13:03] There I

[2:13:05] m asking you tose

[2:13:09] mmon sense, lookit them

[2:13:10] as a nghbond how ty

[2:13:11] enteredhe nghborhood.

[2:13:12] They

[2:13:13] re n enting withny

[2:13:15] rt of tstwohy or

[2:13:18] transparent behavior. W are a

[2:13:20] really tig knitommutyn

[2:13:22] the neighborhoo behd. I kno

[2:13:23] theimbe wood Fol Villa

[2:13:27] fos are as well. I have no

[2:13:28] nfidce thathis woulde a

[2:13:29] goodddition to our

[2:13:31] neighborhood and to o

[2:13:33] communy. It would n add

[2:13:35] jobs, itould add nsend

[2:13:38] ligh pollution on scalehat

[2:13:38] I d

[2:13:40] t think any os want.

[2:13:42] Near our beautiful park, near

[2:13:43] ourommunity cter,ear our

[2:13:45] irgrounds, and certainly not

[2:13:46] ne o homes, certain not

[2:13:48] near a schl. And I mht a

[2:13:50] that the Del site iseing

[2:13:51] pland for, I bieve,

[2:13:52] fordable hsing, accsible

[2:13:54] housinixed use development.

[2:13:55] Thi it

[2:13:55] s would b a very

[2:13:58] d lookor the city t have

[2:14:00] fordle houng devopment

[2:14:02] offered in the shadow,

[2:14:04] teray, o a 30 mawatt

[2:14:06] ta center.Hank yor

[2:14:08] heing me out a aga, I

[2:14:10] thank you a for yr time and

[2:14:11] your exptise

[2:14:13] Thankou.

[2:14:27] Ditional cment.

[2:14:30] Tom Lopez le her I Eagan. I

[2:14:32] woul like to proseo the

[2:14:35] counl that the actuallalk

[2:14:37] th neiborhood andeel the

[2:14:39] pain tha thesendivuals are

[2:14:41] having, that that

[2:14:42] s going 24

[2:14:46] hos a d and not alling

[2:14:49] th to u their bkyar.

[2:14:50] That

[2:14:51] s their ctle. Tt

[2:14:52] s

[2:14:53] their home. Now it

[2:14:54] bee

[2:14:56] vade byoise. But ang

[2:14:58] wi that,ust lik with the

[2:15:01] Airportoise Comssion,

[2:15:02] they

[2:15:03] re phingor quieter

[2:15:05] airplas a therere quier

[2:15:07] airplanes. And would kw

[2:15:09] th therehoul be qeter

[2:15:11] chillers. Don

[2:15:13] t see w

[2:15:13] meone isn

[2:15:15] working and

[2:15:19] loing into quier equipment

[2:15:20] So there

[2:15:23] some se give a

[2:15:26] ta. I think a lite bit, but

[2:15:30] theed to to b par of ts

[2:15:32] communit They needo take

[2:15:34] me action onhemsves and

[2:15:37] identify some betterquipment.

[2:15:39] Ank you.

[2:15:44] Additional comments. Onc

[2:15:46] twic sd. I

[2:15:47] ll bring I bac

[2:15:48] to couil fordditnal

[2:15:50] coersation and or motions,

[2:15:50] bute

[2:15:52] ll startithiss

[2:15:53] Mier identying questns

[2:15:56] that she was able to fromhat.

[2:15:57] And we

[2:15:58] ll go fm there.

[2:15:59] Okay Mr.Ayor, memrs of the

[2:16:00] cocil, I will srt dow the

[2:16:01] list understanngome MAY

[2:16:03] ve bn a bit mor rhetocal

[2:16:04] necessily tha requiring an

[2:16:05] aner,ut I will let y be

[2:16:06] theudge of those So the

[2:16:07] first questio I heard fro

[2:16:09] Kathy was t applicant told b

[2:16:10] the cityhat the eense

[2:16:12] relatedo soundtudies was at

[2:16:14] e rk of thepplint and

[2:16:15] did notean an iup would b

[2:16:19] approv.

[2:16:21] I should pbablefer tt,

[2:16:23] MR. MAY, to the city attorne

[2:16:24] wh hadonveations wh the

[2:16:28] apicant aut.

[2:16:30] MR. MAY, yh.

[2:16:31] The noi mitigionall

[2:16:33] bemehen itas became

[2:16:34] necessary, I became par of

[2:16:36] e mhanical pert. I was

[2:16:38] theity staffuilt. Itasn

[2:16:38] theesidt

[2:16:39] s best interest to

[2:16:41] gethatoise mitigatio wal

[2:16:43] up as soo as possie. Eve

[2:16:45] prr to the iup bei

[2:16:47] prov, becse clely ty

[2:16:52] were havg hvy impts,

[2:16:53] cause we wer then becau

[2:16:56] the noise mitigation wal was

[2:16:58] pa of the mechanical pert

[2:16:59] to aually connect the

[2:17:01] chilrs weere approving. We

[2:17:03] approved the mecnical permit

[2:17:04] to cnect the temporary

[2:17:06] ille. Por toow, the

[2:17:10] p, but there w conversation

[2:17:13] about the cditialature of

[2:17:14] are y, we

[2:17:14] repproving

[2:17:15] this mechanical permit prioro

[2:17:16] th iup but it

[2:17:17] sonditional

[2:17:19] at theity attorney finish

[2:17:20] that.

[2:17:21] S. Mr.Ayor the buildg

[2:17:23] offial made it clear that

[2:17:24] you

[2:17:24] re proedin at youwn

[2:17:25] sk.

[2:17:26] Thank y..

[2:17:28] At you own cost and ris

[2:17:28] I don

[2:17:29] tant to interpt the

[2:17:30] fl.

[2:17:30] Because kno we

[2:17:30] re getti to

[2:17:33] the residents questions, but

[2:17:37] the grantg of t the

[2:17:38] ilding permit for the

[2:17:39] mporaryall and everying

[2:17:40] el tha doesn

[2:17:41] tonstitute an

[2:17:43] endorsemen o a final

[2:17:44] permanent use o cree an

[2:17:48] entitlement to aermantse.

[2:17:50] MR..Ayor Councilma Bakken,

[2:17:53] no, whoug it was sce the

[2:17:55] applicant started the tempora

[2:17:56] chilrs whout the appval

[2:17:57] an wer receiving noise

[2:18:00] complaints.E indicat it

[2:18:01] might be inour bestntert

[2:18:04] to p thi sound barer u

[2:18:06] t doi so, remd h I

[2:18:08] at yourwnisk aour own

[2:18:09] expense.

[2:18:10] Okay?

[2:18:12] And t other optn waso

[2:18:13] cease oratisfhe

[2:18:15] chilleight?

[2:18:16] S.

[2:18:19] Okay. Okay.

[2:18:19] I

[2:18:20] m connuin on several

[2:18:21] quesons for Mia.Irst one

[2:18:23] being if the intim useermi

[2:18:24] ispprovednd Ironate is

[2:18:26] ven, the ierim use pert,

[2:18:27] will Iro Gate b alled to

[2:18:29] install theechacal yard,

[2:18:30] including the eightermant

[2:18:31] chillers,r as a new public

[2:18:34] process requiredithaid

[2:18:35] oces with theublic?E

[2:18:36] able toomme o t changes

[2:18:37] to theite or whouthat

[2:18:38] procs, with theublic.E

[2:18:41] able to comnt.

[2:18:44] MR. MAY, the the pernent

[2:18:45] chillers a is a mechacal

[2:18:47] permit in for the pernent

[2:18:48] chillers. Auilding pmit

[2:18:49] wi als be require for tha

[2:18:50] because the masry wl

[2:18:52] permsounow buildin

[2:18:53] permits, mhanicalermits a

[2:18:55] appred administrately. S

[2:18:57] there io public mting

[2:18:59] ocessn thepprol o a

[2:19:03] buildingr mechanical permit

[2:19:06] Next question. Doe the plic

[2:19:07] ve accesso communication

[2:19:08] twee the appcant a t

[2:19:13] city Ieard doeshe plic

[2:19:15] ve accesso communicati

[2:19:16] between t applicant and the

[2:19:17] city, iluding, I would say

[2:19:18] what we

[2:19:18] vencluded I our

[2:19:19] pack would b my aneotal

[2:19:23] comment.

[2:19:25] I mean,ccessasically we

[2:19:26] provided I think some o that

[2:19:27] infoation I part o t

[2:19:31] packet There mht be oer

[2:19:32] communicatns withhe

[2:19:34] apicant offli tt was

[2:19:36] communiced befe. Tt is

[2:19:37] not partf t packet tha

[2:19:37] wasn

[2:19:38] relevant to the

[2:19:40] communicatn wh wit

[2:19:40] counci

[2:19:41] consideration. Thi

[2:19:42] item

[2:19:43] Okay

[2:19:45] Willutur noi studies be

[2:19:46] do on wknights and

[2:19:47] ekends, wch is the tim of

[2:19:48] y and neighbors are

[2:19:53] pericinghe mt noi.

[2:19:59] MR. Mayor, the. Noi study was

[2:20:00] done which sai that if they

[2:20:02] implemen this wall,t shoul

[2:20:05] meet noisetandards. Nse

[2:20:08] evuati was completed that

[2:20:10] said tt a between 3 and 4

[2:20:12] m. On a ctain day itid

[2:20:16] notxcee nse standar

[2:20:17] There is a condition of

[2:20:20] apoval that ss that the

[2:20:23] ciay request addiona

[2:20:24] noe stues or noi

[2:20:27] evaluaons. I wld def to

[2:20:29] e city attney on. Under

[2:20:32] what critea could w require

[2:20:32] at?On

[2:20:33] t tnk that we

[2:20:34] uld requirehat everyay,

[2:20:36] but would derhat to the

[2:20:38] ci attorney. As far as how

[2:20:39] ofn or whe we cou require

[2:20:41] addional noise stues or

[2:20:45] noise evaluions.

[2:20:49] Mr.Ayor.T has toe

[2:20:50] raonal related to have a

[2:20:51] nexuso the wt you

[2:20:51] ve

[2:20:52] approv. So I you

[2:20:53] ve arove

[2:20:55] is subject to t noise wall,

[2:20:56] then city all of a sudn gets

[2:20:58] another doz complaintes,

[2:20:59] we could we cld have fol

[2:21:01] th condition and say we need

[2:21:04] other noise study.

[2:21:06] And to addn fai to say the

[2:21:07] we cou add a noi study

[2:21:08] would b need. Thatould

[2:21:09] includ weekend hours a

[2:21:12] eknight hours. Is ttrue?

[2:21:14] Yes. Oka

[2:21:16] the MPCatandds dineate

[2:21:17] cotant noise versus on and

[2:21:20] of noise?

[2:21:23] No. The MPCa, MPCa standds

[2:21:27] sicallyreubject to the

[2:21:31] hours specied here.O

[2:21:31] basillyt

[2:21:33] s bed on dibel

[2:21:36] vels beten 7nd 10 p.

[2:21:38] And the 10 P.M. To 7 a.. So

[2:21:41] it isot spefic to mbe

[2:21:43] the continuous basically

[2:21:44] lower freency nois tt

[2:21:46] migh be generated tha maye

[2:21:49] consider more of nsance

[2:21:51] than reay nse vlati.

[2:21:52] Okay.

[2:21:53] Hrd Timsked the questns

[2:21:54] what will hapn tohe

[2:21:55] property valsf t

[2:21:57] neighbhood if ts busines

[2:21:58] ves forwardndave other

[2:22:00] studieseen done on simil

[2:22:01] da cter busesseo know

[2:22:03] whether wallndmprovements

[2:22:04] asropod wl solve the

[2:22:06] ise issues, aone wts to

[2:22:08] ke, that one

[2:22:09] I.

[2:22:11] M surehere are pbabl

[2:22:12] sties that a out there,

[2:22:14] whethe what

[2:22:15] somplating to

[2:22:18] at is wt type of wha type

[2:22:19] of cooling system are they

[2:22:21] opating? Is it the se type

[2:22:23] of mhanical, younow,

[2:22:24] mponts a part of tha So

[2:22:24] there

[2:22:25] s som comications

[2:22:26] at, you know, it

[2:22:26] s not

[2:22:28] necessily apples to apples.

[2:22:30] And t last qstio I hrd,

[2:22:31] whic perps w rhetorical,

[2:22:33] but wts the iact o l

[2:22:33] fruenc noise on the

[2:22:35] children,artilarly tse

[2:22:37] atteing the neay sool?

[2:22:37] Don

[2:22:38] t kno tha we have that

[2:22:39] data at ts time.

[2:22:41] And.

[2:22:43] Mr.Ayor we don

[2:22:44] t have tha

[2:22:45] data. That reay is a health

[2:22:47] issue. Thaeally I the ste

[2:22:49] of Minsota gernance,ublic

[2:22:52] health. And we areust lik we

[2:22:55] need to ade bpa standards

[2:22:59] foroise The state sets wt

[2:23:02] thresholds are for health.

[2:23:03] Thos a the questions that I

[2:23:06] had written dn. MR. MAY.

[2:23:07] Thank you.

[2:23:08] Cocilmber Hann.

[2:23:09] D like

[2:23:11] toollow up with point tt

[2:23:15] waade in cments at lst

[2:23:16] thre separat times that I

[2:23:16] don

[2:23:17] t thi h been dirtly

[2:23:18] addressed. And I

[2:23:19] dike to ask

[2:23:24] . Margoliesf if.

[2:23:25] Three cllers.

[2:23:29] E suffient tporarily, why

[2:23:30] ishere a nee for eig

[2:23:31] chilrs permanely? Is thi

[2:23:33] an indicatn of pnnedrowt

[2:23:36] in the dat center?

[2:23:37] I don

[2:23:38] kno if I havehe

[2:23:41] answero that. Councilmemb.

[2:23:42] Th it MAY haveoo with the

[2:23:44] efficiency. I MAY he to do

[2:23:46] with how they opete. I has

[2:23:47] do with theemann the

[2:23:47] buding Ion

[2:23:48] t know the

[2:23:50] answer to tha There have been

[2:23:52] a number of questions tight

[2:23:52] which I c

[2:23:55] t answer, and it

[2:23:55] s

[2:23:57] not because I

[2:23:58] m evasive It

[2:23:58] s

[2:23:59] because I

[2:23:59] mtupid. D

[2:23:59] t

[2:24:00] ow wt thosehenswers,

[2:24:02] oseuestions a. We

[2:24:03] ve

[2:24:04] ied to not them. A if the

[2:24:07] council wou like, w would

[2:24:09] work hard to try and gethe

[2:24:10] swer to yourpecic

[2:24:11] questions.E

[2:24:12] ve tried t be

[2:24:14] respsive t erythg tt

[2:24:17] the cityas asked us too

[2:24:18] and thenowy sdies and the

[2:24:19] way yousked uso dohem. We

[2:24:20] provided the information you

[2:24:21] aske We

[2:24:22] llontie to do

[2:24:24] th. And if it

[2:24:24] s the council

[2:24:27] desi to hav us pvideore

[2:24:28] informion, the tha

[2:24:28] what

[2:24:29] we

[2:24:30] ll do. If it

[2:24:30] she council

[2:24:30] s

[2:24:32] desire f us toave a public

[2:24:33] meing and he more

[2:24:34] discussions and g more

[2:24:36] information fm the fro the

[2:24:38] fr the neighrhoo w

[2:24:38] re

[2:24:41] happ to do tha If you fee

[2:24:41] at tre

[2:24:43] s mornformation

[2:24:44] that you nd in ordero make

[2:24:45] is decision orhat hasn

[2:24:48] been put ohe record or whe.

[2:24:53] Hay andnd willingo do

[2:24:55] at.

[2:24:56] And we appreate tha would

[2:24:59] be interested in knowing why

[2:25:04] eit chillers areeede.

[2:25:05] MR. Mayor.

[2:25:09] Cocil.

[2:25:11] Just to comment on erythg

[2:25:12] that we

[2:25:12] ve hnd I

[2:25:13] keep it

[2:25:16] etty short he.Nd I look

[2:25:19] at this almt entirely throu

[2:25:22] the lenf lan use And I

[2:25:24] m

[2:25:24] I gss I

[2:25:27] say, incdulous

[2:25:29] As far a I canell, there

[2:25:29] s a

[2:25:31] numerous data cters around

[2:25:34] the Tn Cities that a that

[2:25:35] are developed by thisroup

[2:25:35] andnd I d

[2:25:36] t understd

[2:25:37] w they wldn

[2:25:39] t kno to do

[2:25:41] thr d diligence t see I

[2:25:42] thehills onhe building

[2:25:45] are working pperly, that it

[2:25:45] s

[2:25:47] aermiedse in thi area,

[2:25:48] that they

[2:25:48] re gting the pror

[2:25:50] peitso do theuildgnd,

[2:25:53] and, and mechacal perts.

[2:25:56] Ourules he in Eagan a not

[2:25:57] that arce. They

[2:25:58] re nothat

[2:26:00] diffent tha any otherity.

[2:26:00] And I

[2:26:04] m just cious how

[2:26:06] ca youome in here a not

[2:26:08] derstand the basic rulesf

[2:26:10] wou, you kw, put new

[2:26:15] usento a buildin? And my

[2:26:17] biggt concern, and I tnk

[2:26:19] Tim mentied it earer, I

[2:26:19] what

[2:26:23] sext? I mean. How many

[2:26:24] re times is somethi else

[2:26:26] gog to happen? For example

[2:26:27] mae an eansion? We don

[2:26:28] t

[2:26:30] kn. Ds it hpen fst and

[2:26:31] then weind outbout it

[2:26:33] ter? Think we need to me

[2:26:36] surehat theules we here

[2:26:39] beg respected. Tha

[2:26:39] all I

[2:26:39] have

[2:26:41] MR.

[2:26:43] Counciembe Fields.

[2:26:44] I

[2:26:45] m going to ppose.

[2:26:46] A motion.

[2:26:50] Gng to dirt, prepa

[2:26:51] d prepare. Finding the fac

[2:26:53] renial for theix mth

[2:26:55] interim use pert to aow

[2:26:57] ouoor stoge of fou tiler

[2:26:59] chillers units on t prorty,

[2:27:02] located at 319 Pot Kno

[2:27:04] Ro, legally described as lot

[2:27:06] block one. Unisys Pk.

[2:27:09] Send now. Tnk you. So here,

[2:27:09] here I

[2:27:11] m sting I

[2:27:11] been at

[2:27:14] isn this dt fver6

[2:27:17] years,nd I have never seen a

[2:27:20] deloperomen witho

[2:27:22] king to speako a couil

[2:27:25] meer askin to wor Youid

[2:27:27] rk wh our cit staff aft

[2:27:33] the fact,nd the dregardor

[2:27:37] the whole cy process. I mn,

[2:27:39] ve bee a comnity and a

[2:27:42] counlor a lg timehere

[2:27:43] We

[2:27:43] we

[2:27:46] re family. We hav

[2:27:49] builthis city for our pple.

[2:27:53] We p arocess togetr for

[2:27:56] an aa study We metith t

[2:27:58] elemenry schoo kids. W m

[2:28:00] with atarketest, with t

[2:28:02] peop of the cy ofagan

[2:28:03] Whatid they wan us t do

[2:28:06] th this aa? A w came up

[2:28:07] with a gre pla We

[2:28:07] oing

[2:28:09] to he new peoe I w

[2:28:11] going t hav homes, affordable

[2:28:14] usin MAY somusinesses.

[2:28:15] U dn

[2:28:15] t ask. You didn

[2:28:16] tome

[2:28:17] in a ask. Youidn

[2:28:18] t care.

[2:28:19] You just said, oka we

[2:28:19] re

[2:28:21] going to do thi But the one

[2:28:23] thinghataughte off guard

[2:28:26] is how my tim I heard, I d

[2:28:29] not kw. I d not kw. Have

[2:28:32] counted at least5. Io not

[2:28:36] knowhat tss why I d

[2:28:36] t

[2:28:38] ow I you bong I thi

[2:28:40] greatity. Sohat

[2:28:41] s my.

[2:28:42] At

[2:28:46] s my opinionnd abody

[2:28:48] else wants to add.

[2:28:50] Councilmemr Bucket.

[2:28:53] So well Iuppo theotio

[2:28:54] Yeah Motio is made a

[2:28:55] second. The motn on the

[2:28:57] tabl here.

[2:28:59] And I commend MR. Marlies for

[2:29:01] beg a very efftivend

[2:29:02] zeous advocate for you

[2:29:05] client. I, I aire the

[2:29:05] rratehat you

[2:29:06] ve p

[2:29:07] forwar Withll due resct,

[2:29:08] I

[2:29:10] m not quite buying I The

[2:29:12] main narrative I that this is

[2:29:13] thing more than a

[2:29:14] continuation of a

[2:29:15] wellstabshed historil

[2:29:18] use. Strony disree wit

[2:29:21] th characterizatio to t

[2:29:22] exte that

[2:29:24] mot comfortable

[2:29:24] granting t Ey

[2:29:26] p, because I

[2:29:27] thk it would repsent or

[2:29:31] able a fundantal change in

[2:29:34] the use of troperty. The

[2:29:36] histical use has been an

[2:29:38] acssory use, a sllerse

[2:29:40] methingeconry andn

[2:29:41] suppt of t mai u ofhe

[2:29:42] property, which is resrch a

[2:29:45] developmen I did ask a numr

[2:29:47] ofuestns. T to fd out

[2:29:49] wh exactly I goingn here.

[2:29:49] It

[2:29:53] not tt. Ts type of

[2:29:55] acon should more prorly be

[2:29:57] nsided in a plic pcess

[2:29:58] through a guide chaend or

[2:29:59] zong.

[2:30:00] Ange

[2:30:00] it

[2:30:03] s goi to happent all.

[2:30:04] D although we

[2:30:05] re not

[2:30:07] addressing tho questions

[2:30:08] tonight becse it I just an

[2:30:12] iep, tt pcess wouldlso

[2:30:14] mo properly aow the cncil

[2:30:17] t div into issues of

[2:30:20] electric and wat u, you

[2:30:22] ow, to the nghbo, the

[2:30:23] city doesn

[2:30:23] t do sff with

[2:30:25] ectrity. I mea it

[2:30:25] s

[2:30:26] thern this neck of the

[2:30:26] wood it

[2:30:27] s either Xl or

[2:30:28] kota Electric. I tnk ts

[2:30:31] property I served by Excel.

[2:30:32] Ther are ways that t power

[2:30:35] company can proct ratepayers

[2:30:36] om t impts ofata

[2:30:38] ceers through theower

[2:30:39] puhase agreent. I think

[2:30:39] it

[2:30:41] s Exc. I havo idea wha

[2:30:41] they

[2:30:41] doing. It

[2:30:42] s beyondhe

[2:30:42] purviewf what we

[2:30:43] reoing

[2:30:44] toght. But just so that, you

[2:30:47] know,hose tes of of

[2:30:50] mitigatis c be de. And I

[2:30:52] ink possibly ihe context

[2:30:54] of land u changhe city

[2:30:56] MAY haveome authorio

[2:30:59] reire actio tt mitigate

[2:31:01] tentialmpactsn residents.

[2:31:01] We c

[2:31:02] t dohat withinhe

[2:31:05] scope on iep. I alsoave

[2:31:07] some ccern abo t

[2:31:09] chilrs andhe pns. You

[2:31:11] kn, the eventual conceptf a

[2:31:14] pl ofxpanngo 8 or 9

[2:31:17] permit chiers.Ounow, the

[2:31:18] the applica has sted, wl,

[2:31:21] ere werehree old one or

[2:31:23] 9 new one whi are more

[2:31:26] efficient aoss the boa.

[2:31:27] Ceainly I ter of the btu

[2:31:30] of cooli tha the produce.

[2:31:31] And it to me,t begs t

[2:31:33] question,hiss not a

[2:31:36] replacemt o an exiing u.

[2:31:38] It is a veryroadxpanon. I

[2:31:39] me, ateast a thr times

[2:31:41] expansion in the terms of the

[2:31:42] amount of activity that

[2:31:44] takinglace bause w els

[2:31:46] wouldou nd at lst three

[2:31:48] times a much BTUs of coong

[2:31:51] capacity? So I he questions

[2:31:53] abou tt. I, I don

[2:31:53] t s this

[2:31:55] as jt aeplament o

[2:31:56] existing equipment. At thend

[2:31:58] of theay, it is aeryroad

[2:32:00] expansion of wha shoulden

[2:32:02] acssor use Itmoun to

[2:32:05] fundamental change ihe t

[2:32:08] peitted lan use,nd f

[2:32:10] the rsons, I, I suprt t

[2:32:17] motion. Yeah. And mea the

[2:32:18] last thing is.

[2:32:20] I

[2:32:20] Again,t

[2:32:21] s beyd the sco of

[2:32:23] e conversation tonht. B

[2:32:23] butnef the thing w

[2:32:24] ll

[2:32:26] ve t talk aut I t sdy

[2:32:28] about dat centers in geral

[2:32:30] is t difference between

[2:32:32] aditnal dat cters which

[2:32:34] for for srage, wch are sort

[2:32:36] of akin to a room fl of

[2:32:39] ling cabinets,ounow,his

[2:32:40] facility was built in the 80s,

[2:32:43] I think, younow, I spent

[2:32:44] couple of sumrs worng

[2:32:47] asmbly at ibm I Rochester,

[2:32:49] d I know whaype of srage

[2:32:50] ings they were ung bk

[2:32:52] th. Y know, the wer

[2:32:53] t

[2:32:53] what

[2:32:55] seing ud today.Ou

[2:32:56] know conmers. You h the

[2:32:59] biisk dris, and w

[2:33:01] stil usi the the big 5.25i

[2:33:03] oppies f entpris Those

[2:33:05] uns had platters tt I mean,

[2:33:06] these things we le the siz

[2:33:09] of a disashe And the amount

[2:33:11] data that they cou store

[2:33:12] wasn

[2:33:13] all that much in

[2:33:14] comparison to today

[2:33:15] s data

[2:33:16] storage. B the

[2:33:16] s a

[2:33:18] fference beten aoom full

[2:33:20] of electrocilin cabets

[2:33:21] th people can reque and

[2:33:23] retrievenfortionrom, and

[2:33:25] compute. I don

[2:33:25] t see tt as an

[2:33:27] accessory storage use. It

[2:33:27] s

[2:33:31] more of aanufacturingrocess,

[2:33:31] whh I

[2:33:33] m not sure a conrsio

[2:33:36] of use from r&d to that type o

[2:33:37] proces is appropria. B

[2:33:38] agn,hat

[2:33:39] s beyon the scope

[2:33:40] of t conversation tonht.

[2:33:40] It

[2:33:41] something we

[2:33:41] re gng to

[2:33:45] ha toook into. A the

[2:33:47] rticular use you know, at

[2:33:48] some pointt

[2:33:49] s going toatte

[2:33:52] at exactly is bng renred.

[2:33:56] Causf the, the sversr

[2:33:58] the the comte cluers being

[2:33:59] hostedn site b whater

[2:34:01] compy are recving recving

[2:34:03] requests for cerin types of

[2:34:07] material a tn are served

[2:34:08] t to ping cusmers it

[2:34:09] s

[2:34:10] quite posble tt some of

[2:34:11] these facilits cld fall

[2:34:13] in the categor of a adult

[2:34:14] use facilit and.

[2:34:14] Ere

[2:34:15] s a.

[2:34:17] Whole saratet of

[2:34:20] rerictions that app to

[2:34:21] placeshat dohat sortf

[2:34:23] thing. So I don

[2:34:23] tave any

[2:34:25] answs for tha tight. But

[2:34:25] that

[2:34:26] s y another thi that

[2:34:28] ll need t lk at, because

[2:34:29] for tho tes ofacilies,

[2:34:31] therere scing ruirements

[2:34:32] om residential properties and

[2:34:33] aumbe of other, younow,

[2:34:35] rerictns oquareoota

[2:34:36] at c be dedicatedo it.

[2:34:38] They mayr MAY not apply in

[2:34:40] the future toata cenrs. But

[2:34:40] there

[2:34:41] s aifferenceetwe

[2:34:43] store and comte. So thank

[2:34:44] you for indulng me. He

[2:34:47] settled. B at the end of the

[2:34:48] y, Ion

[2:34:49] t sport theup

[2:34:50] cause.

[2:34:51] It it.

[2:34:53] Seems to me le a aackdr

[2:34:56] way of affecting a landse

[2:34:57] chge that

[2:34:57] s mor appropria

[2:35:02] fo a zoningr guidehang.

[2:35:02] Gue I

[2:35:03] ll I

[2:35:04] ll mak a few

[2:35:04] comments. I don

[2:35:05] t I don

[2:35:07] necearil meanorap it up,

[2:35:12] d I welcome all the cment,

[2:35:12] t I

[2:35:13] ll speak t a couplef

[2:35:15] differentssue Andnd I

[2:35:16] nt to say,irst off, MR.

[2:35:19] Rgol, I a lotf tngs I

[2:35:21] disagree with y on yr self

[2:35:23] characteritionstupid is

[2:35:24] onef tm. Don

[2:35:24] think

[2:35:25] you

[2:35:26] re stupid at a. I think

[2:35:27] you

[2:35:29] re qte ielligent and

[2:35:30] and I appreciate that. So I

[2:35:31] just want toorre the recd

[2:35:39] on thatne. The I thinkhere

[2:35:40] arewossues and the

[2:35:41] s one

[2:35:42] the table, buthere

[2:35:43] s a

[2:35:44] rger issue at hand that that

[2:35:45] it

[2:35:46] s n part of the motn

[2:35:46] ghtow. But I wld like t

[2:35:48] council to enttain the notion

[2:35:53] of ging se direction on the

[2:35:55] application for theermant

[2:35:56] aile thatre I frontf

[2:36:00] us. But on the iup, I

[2:36:01] ll start

[2:36:03] there, I gue, and then

[2:36:08] ogre on scifio the iup.

[2:36:14] Upportive of denl in

[2:36:20] part, I largeartecause.

[2:36:25] The Iind the presentatn of

[2:36:30] the nse stu to b confusing

[2:36:34] d incomplete, and the

[2:36:34] applicant

[2:36:35] s flure t be ae

[2:36:37] to asko awer questio

[2:36:39] abt howhat study was done

[2:36:42] on a technic lev,oes not

[2:36:47] see the iup and theix mon

[2:36:50] term. I know tt the

[2:36:50] s some

[2:36:52] disaeement on whatxactly

[2:36:54] was de in ter of the noi

[2:36:55] sties, and Ion

[2:36:56] t knowhat

[2:36:56] we

[2:36:58] ll get there.Ut fm

[2:36:59] what

[2:37:01] s bnresented and

[2:37:02] what

[2:37:04] able tomment on, I

[2:37:06] ha a baseline stu that

[2:37:08] takes int consideration a 24

[2:37:11] ur perd and docents or

[2:37:12] mols. I

[2:37:14] n sure which

[2:37:16] anticipated nse lels for

[2:37:19] th entire 24 hr period

[2:37:25] befohand. Ithenuts u,

[2:37:26] and for tse of you who

[2:37:26] ven

[2:37:27] t seent in t

[2:37:29] materials I prent, there

[2:37:29] s a

[2:37:30] wholeot of discussn witn

[2:37:32] the withinhe studiesnhe

[2:37:35] pact ofeather, o the

[2:37:36] movement of noise through t

[2:37:38] air. I

[2:37:39] a liberalrts major.

[2:37:39] I d

[2:37:41] t get mos of it,ut

[2:37:42] appantly weaer has

[2:37:49] somethin too withhis. The

[2:37:53] sty o the other side is

[2:37:56] designed to, in my estimatio

[2:37:59] cherry pic anour beten 3

[2:38:02] and in theorning when its

[2:38:08] 40 m 40s, up. And m ccern

[2:38:09] is, I don

[2:38:11] t know how that

[2:38:13] weather cditionpeaks tohe

[2:38:15] velf operationf t

[2:38:20] chille. Four mths fromow,

[2:38:22] in Jun oruly, whatever, four

[2:38:27] months from n is a

[2:38:32] mperures that aren the

[2:38:36] s overnight, maybe even in

[2:38:38] e 8, overnig, high

[2:38:41] humidity cditions. Aven

[2:38:44] though theeportpeak toow

[2:38:47] weatr can iact noise,

[2:38:48] sending, it doe

[2:38:49] t tal toow

[2:38:51] variance withinhe chillers

[2:38:53] uld afft t noise

[2:38:55] decibels. So I find theoise

[2:38:57] udy onhe backndo be

[2:38:58] inadequate for bei able to

[2:39:01] assuhathe public heah

[2:39:03] and sety a welref the

[2:39:05] nehborod would b protected

[2:39:08] within the tms o t iup. S

[2:39:09] fo me, that

[2:39:10] s theasic rson

[2:39:11] y I

[2:39:12] mere to deny that and

[2:39:18] why Iuppo denying it.

[2:39:25] Beyond tha. I jus Ion

[2:39:26] t

[2:39:29] find the appachf the

[2:39:30] applicant to b very

[2:39:33] forthcomg or infortive a

[2:39:35] I arecie tt folks learned

[2:39:37] om som of my questions

[2:39:37] tonit. Don

[2:39:38] teel like I

[2:39:39] learnedhole lot, because I

[2:39:40] di

[2:39:42] t feel like was getng

[2:39:44] very clear or forthcoming

[2:39:48] swer and, younow, I, I

[2:39:53] think tt the rhetocalrick

[2:39:57] trying to ce a.

[2:40:00] Certificate of occupancy as the

[2:40:05] contllingntitlement to land

[2:40:07] that is carly already guided

[2:40:10] an zoned for aurpose that

[2:40:12] allows a dataenter toe an

[2:40:15] accessorot a pmary use,

[2:40:18] specis.Nd I

[2:40:18] m not

[2:40:21] inrest in bei suprtive

[2:40:23] of that. I mean, I think it is

[2:40:25] clear to me at least, that

[2:40:27] there is a sigfica amount

[2:40:29] of due digen that the

[2:40:34] applicant could have deo

[2:40:35] follow u onhat theyanted

[2:40:38] to do I terms of addhillers

[2:40:41] and usehepace asata

[2:40:44] nterhief among tm wld

[2:40:45] o thrgh the ordiny

[2:40:47] press of hing the lan we

[2:40:50] guided and rezed. To do tt,

[2:40:52] u put anpplition in with

[2:40:55] the cit Weome up with

[2:40:56] th a approach to wheth or

[2:40:57] note

[2:40:58] re going to d that, and

[2:41:03] alanor the site. The

[2:41:07] emergenc of temporary cllers

[2:41:10] to replace a stem. But then a

[2:41:13] further o uetermined

[2:41:15] permanent structure to come

[2:41:17] And not knowing what the

[2:41:19] decisionakin is between

[2:41:25] thos two, to me,s jus. Not

[2:41:27] aood represeatio o the

[2:41:27] e digencehat

[2:41:30] s reqred.

[2:41:31] U know,he moratorm that

[2:41:34] apted is for a ver

[2:41:36] ecifype of dat center,

[2:41:38] which, und crent

[2:41:41] ciumstance, asn aesso,

[2:41:43] us, ts property wou fit

[2:41:46] in, would fit int The problem.

[2:41:48] Is ty

[2:41:50] reot using it as an

[2:41:51] cessyse. They

[2:41:52] making

[2:41:54] no bonbout the ft tha

[2:41:55] they think theyough a data

[2:41:56] center, that they

[2:41:57] orating

[2:41:58] it as a data center, that

[2:41:59] that

[2:42:00] s t priry use of the

[2:42:01] data cenr.Hey don

[2:42:01] tven

[2:42:02] pretend that there

[2:42:03] anyffic

[2:42:05] us to it. The jus say it

[2:42:05] s a

[2:42:07] data cter bause we say it

[2:42:07] s

[2:42:11] aata cente bas on ceo.

[2:42:11] It

[2:42:14] s n a data center.T w

[2:42:16] neve operateds a da

[2:42:19] nter. It was opetedith a

[2:42:20] data center int asn

[2:42:24] accessy, not primary use.

[2:42:25] The land that ty are on right

[2:42:28] no isot is notntitd t

[2:42:31] be a standale or primary u

[2:42:34] data cenr. S that exten

[2:42:36] I just fd the, the thehe,

[2:42:43] e, the applicants to be. N

[2:42:44] doing the due dilence

[2:42:45] because tir due digen

[2:42:46] would get tmnswers ty

[2:42:47] don

[2:42:51] tike. My suggestion is

[2:42:53] that in additn t voting

[2:42:54] agains the iup, which I plan

[2:42:56] to do, I

[2:42:57] d likeo talk aut

[2:43:01] givi direction to sff that

[2:43:04] at we notpprove the

[2:43:06] rmanent cllers on

[2:43:07] construction level unt and

[2:43:09] less it I part o an

[2:43:12] applicatn for chaen

[2:43:15] landse.Ndt that pnt,e

[2:43:16] can conside both the change in

[2:43:18] nd use and the permanent

[2:43:20] consuction of sce f

[2:43:22] chilrsn the same

[2:43:23] conversati. Andhat

[2:43:24] s the

[2:43:25] y it shoule, and tt

[2:43:26] s

[2:43:27] e w the process usually

[2:43:30] work I am not I

[2:43:30] going to

[2:43:30] I

[2:43:31] m gng t loop backow to

[2:43:33] e I. I amot interesd in

[2:43:36] taking upr. Margoli onhe

[2:43:38] ggeson tt we d more

[2:43:40] study, because w areere,

[2:43:42] beuse theyoveorwa with

[2:43:43] a plan that wasn

[2:43:43] t fully

[2:43:44] thought o, wn

[2:43:45] t fly

[2:43:46] clear, a I thi they did

[2:43:50] do I in good faith. And and to

[2:43:53] that exten extending o this

[2:43:55] convsation and further

[2:43:57] rdening t neighborhood s

[2:43:59] thatheyanontinue to ski

[2:44:01] and go around thedges of

[2:44:02] regulations is not something

[2:44:03] I

[2:44:04] m intertedn doing.E

[2:44:06] haveeenlaying ges on this

[2:44:07] si for upwards of tee

[2:44:09] mohs rht now. I

[2:44:09] m not

[2:44:11] intereed in another three

[2:44:13] months oflayi games and

[2:44:13] I

[2:44:14] m n interested in going

[2:44:16] throughhis discuion again

[2:44:17] unless I

[2:44:18] s in the ctextf

[2:44:20] being forthcoming and in gd

[2:44:21] faith abo wt thentend

[2:44:24] landse is. N. At some

[2:44:29] point, repcing t cooling

[2:44:31] syem on the blding require

[2:44:34] r cller Threef which

[2:44:35] were going to b orational,

[2:44:36] one of whichasn

[2:44:36] toing to be

[2:44:37] erational, I was going to

[2:44:39] serve as a bkup. Now, what

[2:44:40] I

[2:44:43] m told is we want to go to

[2:44:46] uble that.T tt point,

[2:44:47] you

[2:44:48] re no longereplacing a

[2:44:49] coolg system. Y are

[2:44:52] expanding a cooli systeow

[2:44:53] what the level of expansi I

[2:44:54] Ion

[2:44:55] t know,ecausehe

[2:44:55] applicant hn

[2:44:56] t fthcong o

[2:45:00] that. But uil we knownd we

[2:45:01] have clearer sense of that,

[2:45:02] I

[2:45:02] not intereste ineein

[2:45:04] thepprol on the pernent

[2:45:07] permit eitr. So Cncil, I,

[2:45:08] I

[2:45:10] d throw tt u for you as a,

[2:45:12] as a discuion pnt in

[2:45:13] dition to the mion onhe

[2:45:14] table. S Cncilmber

[2:45:15] Babbitt.

[2:45:16] Thank

[2:45:17] Mar thathat that wld lead

[2:45:18] a question for our cit

[2:45:21] attoey if weould want to

[2:45:23] give direction to sff to hold

[2:45:25] of on arovalf the the

[2:45:27] permanent pmit,nless it

[2:45:29] cos to us as a part of a lan

[2:45:32] use chae reque, would that

[2:45:33] a sarate mion?

[2:45:35] MR. MAY? COUNCILMAN?Es,

[2:45:37] that woulde we. Staffoes

[2:45:41] needirection on it is seems a

[2:45:43] little usual to when when

[2:45:45] three word to applyor for

[2:45:48] ght and we need decti

[2:45:50] from council as to wheere

[2:45:52] should we be processing this.

[2:45:54] Shoulde a forore data on.

[2:45:56] Ishisnly going to sve

[2:45:58] ur neegawatt, or is it

[2:46:01] conserve 3w? Thesere things

[2:46:02] weon

[2:46:03] t knond think in

[2:46:03] lit o what w

[2:46:04] re heari

[2:46:06] nighhat it it

[2:46:08] s seems the

[2:46:09] wi ofhe council that ts

[2:46:11] is a lan use change, not a

[2:46:13] interim u permit change or

[2:46:14] applicatn, evehough that

[2:46:15] what before you. Soes, we

[2:46:16] would likeome directi. It

[2:46:18] wod be a sepate actio

[2:46:19] item

[2:46:21] Okay.

[2:46:24] Io I hav to we haveo do

[2:46:25] weaveo clearhe table of

[2:46:27] e original motion. Yes MR.

[2:46:27] Yor.

[2:46:28] Sounds goo

[2:46:31] So MAY couil I w want t

[2:46:32] if we have aitiol commes

[2:46:35] he and thee

[2:46:35] ll come

[2:46:36] backnd I

[2:46:36] ll mak aotion on

[2:46:37] directionfterwards.

[2:46:38] Anr. Mayorust poi of

[2:46:40] arifation. Theotion me

[2:46:41] s t approvef.

[2:46:45] Wenow to dy. Doe.

[2:46:46] Do we nottart.

[2:46:48] With simar t me to dhat.

[2:46:49] Planning Comssior.

[2:46:50] We d

[2:46:50] t do tha here. N

[2:46:51] Okay. You he the oion

[2:46:53] eier to arove o to direct

[2:46:55] our offic to ppare finngs.

[2:46:56] Okay. Tt was t mion I to

[2:46:58] epar findings of denl tha

[2:46:59] would beonsired aour

[2:47:00] next meeng.

[2:47:02] And athis point, Bob, from

[2:47:04] the conversatio you hav the

[2:47:06] the basically Joe,ou needo

[2:47:08] to draft those fding

[2:47:09] Yes,r. Mayor, okay.

[2:47:13] Soundsood. Councmemb.

[2:47:14] And I

[2:47:16] aaysangeus to

[2:47:18] try t follow the mayor becse

[2:47:19] he saidverying thaeeds

[2:47:21] toe said.

[2:47:22] I w well, eveuall I he

[2:47:23] torite

[2:47:24] I wiligently taking notes

[2:47:25] all the w tough the

[2:47:27] scussion, ande stolell my

[2:47:28] under. S.

[2:47:28] Sorry.

[2:47:33] Oh, so wl just s that

[2:47:34] there

[2:47:34] s a fdamental

[2:47:36] differen in how t the

[2:47:38] plicant vws thi property

[2:47:39] as comred to hhe city

[2:47:43] does. You kno and so Ihink

[2:47:44] whate

[2:47:45] re lefith is some

[2:47:46] unss we c do som thingso

[2:47:48] help crify t future o this

[2:47:48] operty. We

[2:47:49] ve got some

[2:47:50] uncertainty tonight. S I hope

[2:47:53] wean workhose out. A so

[2:47:54] justay I appreciate all t

[2:47:55] comments tt wereade. We

[2:47:58] heard your ccern about t

[2:48:00] imct onn theeighrhood,

[2:48:01] the peopl in the area,

[2:48:03] tentl impacn pubc

[2:48:06] heal. And I just tnk that

[2:48:08] at we heard tonight is really

[2:48:10] no consisten with the vion

[2:48:12] th we have for that area. And

[2:48:14] I also will supporthe

[2:48:15] moti to deny.

[2:48:16] East.

[2:48:16] ing.

[2:48:17] That

[2:48:19] I jusant to me it

[2:48:20] abdantlearhat the

[2:48:21] coerns that raised abo a

[2:48:22] poteialdult use

[2:48:24] implicatio are ino way

[2:48:25] informing the way I

[2:48:25] votg

[2:48:27] nigh has nothing to do wh

[2:48:28] the iep request It

[2:48:29] sust

[2:48:30] most an interesting thought

[2:48:31] exercise to baken io

[2:48:33] conseratn in theonte of

[2:48:34] e thetudy that

[2:48:34] bng done

[2:48:37] on the moratoriu So, Bob,

[2:48:37] don

[2:48:40] t incde that.

[2:48:40] It doesn

[2:48:42] matr without.

[2:48:43] Y additiona comments

[2:48:46] specific to the iup.

[2:48:47] , oka

[2:48:50] otion is made for t direct

[2:48:51] findings oact forenial o

[2:48:53] theup motn is me and

[2:48:54] secoed. Tre are no

[2:48:55] ditional comnts on tha

[2:48:55] one.

[2:48:57] Please.Hat are you dng? No,

[2:48:59] . Wlhey.

[2:48:59] They went wh.

[2:49:00] On.

[2:49:02] Ur reque.

[2:49:07] The mion is toeny.

[2:49:09] Thought y w dirting I

[2:49:12] No no no no.O,

[2:49:13] m sorry.

[2:49:14] We

[2:49:15] re good. Sorry.

[2:49:17] Motion is madnd seconded on

[2:49:19] the I. Are tre any more

[2:49:20] comments on the iup?

[2:49:21] No.

[2:49:22] Eing non All in favor of

[2:49:24] the motionor denl. Indice

[2:49:26] by saying aye Aye a. And

[2:49:28] oppose nay. Thaotion

[2:49:31] carries. And, Bob we

[2:49:31] ll b

[2:49:32] lookin toou for fdings o

[2:49:34] fact.Ome back. Councilmber

[2:49:35] Hanson, if you

[2:49:36] d le to make a

[2:49:39] motion. Secondarily,

[2:49:39] ll how

[2:49:40] abouto that and not take

[2:49:41] aw your thunder.

[2:49:42] And

[2:49:43] ll second it.

[2:49:45] There y go.

[2:49:47] Ok. Sous gd. Motion is

[2:49:48] ma. Well,o. Why don

[2:49:49] t y

[2:49:50] make theotio Because I did.

[2:49:52] Al I sd was make aotio

[2:49:53] Do you want t me a motion in

[2:49:56] term of direction to staff.

[2:49:57] You he the wordi for

[2:49:58] thatr.

[2:49:59] . Mayor, Ian read bk what

[2:50:00] you said pviously.

[2:50:02] Ifhat, plee.

[2:50:04] The direconas direct staff

[2:50:05] not to appve theight

[2:50:06] chilrs until saidhillers

[2:50:08] are a par of aand use

[2:50:11] applicatn fm the appcant

[2:50:13] moved.

[2:50:14] Ok, so it

[2:50:14] soved and

[2:50:15] conded.

[2:50:15] You said you

[2:50:16] d sonde

[2:50:18] Ok, whatever. Iust wanto

[2:50:19] make sureou g some thund,

[2:50:19] th

[2:50:20] s all.Ounow.

[2:50:20] Ankou. You don

[2:50:22] t nd it.

[2:50:23] It MAY beechnal, but the

[2:50:23] wayhat

[2:50:25] s wordes don

[2:50:26] approve tm untilhey

[2:50:27] re a

[2:50:28] pa ofn application But

[2:50:28] they

[2:50:29] d oy b approved if the

[2:50:32] apicatn itsfs approved.

[2:50:33] Rhaps inhert in pt of it.

[2:50:34] S. Okay.

[2:50:35] Just ming sure.

[2:50:37] Ye

[2:50:39] And I gss I

[2:50:40] ll. I alrdy

[2:50:41] spok to this,ut I just,ou

[2:50:43] know athe end of theay,,

[2:50:45] I justave a hard time n

[2:50:48] seng this as, I mean. Wl

[2:50:52] two things. O ihe

[2:50:54] plicant is carlysinghe

[2:50:56] space pmaris a data

[2:50:57] center, dsn

[2:50:58] tlaim to b

[2:50:59] using t spa for anying

[2:51:02] t aata cente and has an

[2:51:03] interptati tt suggests

[2:51:05] th can that I vehemently

[2:51:07] disagr with and tnk is

[2:51:11] wrg. S to tha extt, my

[2:51:19] suggestion is to not. Awardhe

[2:51:21] the pert on the eig

[2:51:22] ille bause theyre

[2:51:26] constent whhe gded

[2:51:27] d zoned lan use ohe

[2:51:33] proper.Eyond that, my

[2:51:37] suggestion would bhat if a

[2:51:39] land use proposal ces

[2:51:41] forwd, tt wld makehe

[2:51:44] chilleonsistent with the

[2:51:46] prary uf a dat center,

[2:51:47] that thatan be incded

[2:51:49] thin anpplition t change

[2:51:50] the landse and all that to

[2:51:52] ppen. But two separate

[2:51:54] reason mak sense. Miste

[2:51:54] Mayor?

[2:51:55] Ay.

[2:51:56] That

[2:51:58] s wha my my backup is.

[2:51:59] I d

[2:51:59] t need t go through what

[2:52:00] I

[2:52:00] ve alrdy sd. I think at

[2:52:06] thend o the day, I just. The

[2:52:10] level o due digence that I

[2:52:12] think suld he and was not

[2:52:17] donen ts proposal toet t

[2:52:19] the notio of eig jus see

[2:52:22] spect enoh that m sse is

[2:52:23] they are ting to chae the

[2:52:24] la use whout going tough

[2:52:26] the lan use change, a that

[2:52:27] th

[2:52:28] s inapproiate and tt I

[2:52:29] n

[2:52:30] t be a pt o it.

[2:52:33] Than you. I agree.

[2:52:38] Additional comnts a we

[2:52:39] ne toote on that motn as

[2:52:39] well.

[2:52:40] Ye

[2:52:42] ay. Motn is made and

[2:52:43] secoed. If tre are no

[2:52:44] additionalommes.Ll in

[2:52:44] vor.He motionigna

[2:52:45] sang.

[2:52:46] I,.

[2:52:48] And oosed n, that mion

[2:52:51] caies and decti I so

[2:52:54] given t ttaff With that

[2:52:57] we a at the cclusnf.

[2:52:58] 3 to.

[2:52:59] 1 our.

[2:53:02] Game of our gam tonight

[2:53:03] 101 yeah,

[2:53:04] over.

[2:53:05] With.Ut thewins won 1 to

[2:53:06] 3.

[2:53:07] Yeah.

[2:53:09] And and we

[2:53:09] re donen thi

[2:53:12] it. W he no oth business

[2:53:13] tonight. No listive and

[2:53:14] rgovernmental affairs

[2:53:15] update. No economic development

[2:53:17] thorit Rig to our

[2:53:18] administrative agenda. MR..

[2:53:19] City attorney anything?

[2:53:19] I hav notng, MR..

[2:53:21] Yor.

[2:53:23] An councilments?

[2:53:24] No sir

[2:53:27] Sengone.R.. MR..

[2:53:28] Adnistrator nothing.

[2:53:30] MR.. Mayor, MR..

[2:53:31] Directorf pubc wor.

[2:53:31] i have.

[2:53:32] Nog, MR..

[2:53:32] Mayor.

[2:53:33] MISS Dirtor community

[2:53:34] devepmentothing.

[2:53:37] MR.

[2:53:38] Arere business to be heard

[2:53:38] ontems not on tonig

[2:53:42] agda sing none. We have n

[2:53:43] closed seson.

[2:53:44] To

[2:53:46] s g his hand up. O.

[2:53:47] Where a the chill goingo

[2:53:50] be turd off.

[2:53:53] The the iup haseenenied.

[2:53:55] So they hav close off.

[2:53:57] The iup has bn dend.Hat

[2:53:57] s

[2:53:58] all can say.

[2:54:01] Wh about the rie form

[2:54:03] now,or ts noise that

[2:54:04] s

[2:54:05] going o

[2:54:05] I tnk tt was.

[2:54:06] Wh theyer

[2:54:06] Yo can

[2:54:07] t. Wean

[2:54:07] t.

[2:54:08] Answer

[2:54:08] We

[2:54:09] re wai That

[2:54:10] s o the

[2:54:10] agda Tom. W

[2:54:14] re done. With

[2:54:15] that,

[2:54:16] openo aotion t

[2:54:16] adjon.

[2:54:17] Moon to adjou.

[2:54:18] Send moved and second. All

[2:54:19] in favor, say aye.Ye aye.

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