Agenda
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Roadway Safety and Traffic Enforcement in the City of Encinitas. Environmental Considerations: The action being considered by the City Council is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) because it is not a "project" under Section 15061(b)(3) of the CEQA Guidelines because it can be seen with certainty that there is no possibility that the activity in question may have a significant effect on the environment. The action is also exempt from CEQA under Section 15378(b)(5) of the CEQA Guidelines because it involves an organizational or administrative activity of government that will not result in the direct or indirect physical change in the environment. Contact Person: Director of Engineering Nutter
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ok.
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We
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ll start momentarily.
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Give him one more minute.
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Jim was here and he just
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stepped out. He was coming
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right back.
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No.
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There we go.
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I think, did I hear Jim out
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there? I thought so. Ok.
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Peet, are we ready? Yes sir,
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we
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re good. Ok, we
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ll call this
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meeting to order. If the clerk
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will, uh, call the roll. Sure,
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council member lines council
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member San Antonio present
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council member Schaeffer.
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Deputy Mayor o
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Hara.
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Mayor Ehler record will show
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all members of the city council
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are present tonight.
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Ok, this is a special meeting
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of the Encinitas City Council.
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Uh, we have one item on
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tonight
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s meeting, and that is
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Roadway safety and traffic
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enforcement in the city of
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Encinitas and the contact
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person is director of
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engineering Nutter.
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With that, we
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ll start with a,
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uh, staff report. All right.
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Well, good afternoon, MR. Mayor
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and council members. My name is
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Dan Nutter. I
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m the director of
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engineering and city engineer
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for the city, uh, along with me
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this afternoon, I have Matt
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Widowski, Assistant Director of
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Engineering, uh, Abe Bandigan,
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the city traffic engineer, and
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Shane Watts, who is the captain
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of the sheriff
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s office for uh
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North Coast.
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Uh, today we
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ll be talking and
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discussing about roadway safety
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and traffic enforcement.
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So we
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re gonna be discussing
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the five e
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s of traffic safety.
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We
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re gonna highlight current
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city programs, projects, and
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initiatives regarding traffic
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safety.
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We
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re going to show the city
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s
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financial commitment to Traffic
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City, uh, traffic safety.
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Uh, and then we
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ll conclude
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with city council having
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discussion.
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So first I want to get into the
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5 e
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s of traffic safety.
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Now the 5 years of traffic
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safety are a comprehensive
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approach to improving roadway
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safety for everyone. Uh, now
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this is a framework that
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s
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evolved over time, uh, starting
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in the 1920s, this was actually
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the three e
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s of traffic safety.
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Uh, so over the years we
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ve,
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we
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ve evolved a bit and uh now
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it
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s, it
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s industry standard
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that we have these five e
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s.
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Oh,
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Is that a little better? Am I
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not talking in the mic? I
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apologize. Well, thank you guys.
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Uh, so the five e
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s of traffic
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safety are comprised of
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engineering, education,
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enforcement, encouragement and
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evaluation, uh, now really do
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want to make it clear that
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these 5 e
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s, uh, this is really
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a community comprehensive
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approach, so it
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s not just the
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city, it
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s also really engaging
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the public as well.
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Uh, so engineering is designing
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and maintaining roadway
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infrastructure to reduce risk
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and protect
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Uh, Education is teaching
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people safe behaviors and
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building awareness for all road
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users, enforcement is promoting
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safe behaviors and deterring
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deterring dangerous choices
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through fair and consistent
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enforcement.
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Encouragement is creating a
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culture that supports and
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reinforces reinforces positive,
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safe choices, and evaluation is
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making database decisions to
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analyze risks and implement
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countermeasures to to
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continuously improve our
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programs and projects.
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So engineering safer streets by
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design. Uh, so the city has
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over 45, uh, current and in
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progress.
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Projects, programs, and
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initiatives regarding
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engineering and infrastructure,
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um.
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Don
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t have all day to talk
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about all of them. I wish I did,
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but this is, is a, uh, only a 2
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hour meeting, so I
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m gonna just
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highlight some of the more
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important of the bunch.
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All right, is that any better?
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Ok, I
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m trying not to eat the
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microphone.
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Uh, so the first of which is
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our citywide lowering of speed
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limits, that
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s per ab 43 and ab
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382, uh, so we did our first
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cut at lowering speed limits,
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uh, in 2022 and back in MAY of
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this year, council approved uh
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for staff to lower, uh, um.
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Roadway speeds on 13 different
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roadways, and this is really
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something that I wanted to be
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clear, is creating real results,
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uh, our traffic engineering
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team completed a traffic, uh,
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speed survey back in the summer
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of 2025, and that showed that
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we
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ve lowered speeds across the
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city and averaged 2.2 mph. Uh,
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so really it that showing that
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we are doing the right things,
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we
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re going in the right
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direction, a great results.
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Uh, we have an initiative where
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we are red curbing within
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school zones, uh, per the
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state
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s daylighting law to make
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sure that pedestrians, uh,
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specifically students and
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parents, uh, there are more
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visibility, uh, for. Oh,
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perfect. Ok, um.
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For more visibility for those
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students and and uh parents as
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they
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re walking through
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crosswalks, we
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re enhancing
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visibility at pedestrian
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crossings where improving
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bicycle and pedestrian
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facilities were optimizing
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traffic signal performance, and
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we are initiating an adaptive
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signal timing pilot program, uh,
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those two last ones, the
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traffic signal related items
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are really important for our
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corridors to help reduce
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queuing, um, that helps reduce
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the number of crashes, um, red
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light running.
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Things of that nature.
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We have a safe routes to school
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program, um, every year our
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traffic engineering team works
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with the various school
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districts, and we come up with
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important pedestrian and
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bicycle improvements, uh, this
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is a snippet of some of the
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improvements that we
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ve done
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with our fiscal year 26 program
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that ended uh just a couple of
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months back on the top left, we
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have a new signalized uh
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crosswalk along El Camino Real,
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that
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s at Crest Street.
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Uh, bottom left is a new
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rectangular rapid flashing
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beacon at Requasia and then on
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the right is a new rrfb at
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Vulcan and Glaucus.
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Not only do we care about
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having safe crossings for
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pedestrian and bicyclists along
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all of our roadways, but we
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also care about having safe
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crossings along the railroad
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tracks. Um.
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We have 3 distinct projects
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with 6 pedestrian and bicycle
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crossings, uh, that are in
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progress right now uh with the
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city, uh, now some really great
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news, if, if you have not heard,
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uh, the city was actually
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awarded a $33.6 million dollar
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grant by the Federal Railroad
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Administration. Uh, we heard
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about a week and a half ago, uh,
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that
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s gonna help make these 3
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projects a reality. Uh, two of
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the, uh, renderings that you
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see here, uh, those are related
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toward Leucadia at grade
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crossing projects. So again,
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really important safety
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infrastructure improvements.
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We
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ve been installing
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pedestrian refuge islands. So
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you
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re seeing more of these
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across the city. Uh, this
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really helps break long
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crossings into smaller, more
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manageable segments. Uh, this
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here is on Highway 101 at 8th
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Street. Uh, we recently
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installed a new refuge island
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on Lucadia Boulevard at Hygia.
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We have a new one planned for
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Saxony at the ymca, uh, and
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then we also have one, plan per
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council direction at the
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Village Parkway at Parkdale
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Lane.
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We
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re installing rectangular
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rapid flashing beacons or RRFBs,
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you
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re, you
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re seeing these
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around town. Uh, this would be
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something that we would be
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installing at uncontrolled
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intersections to help provide a
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higher visibility for our
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pedestrians that are crossing
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the roadway. Uh, it
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s also an
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active measure to improve
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driver awareness for pedestrian
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activity, and one of the really
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important aspects here is it
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s
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cost effective solution that we
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can deploy very quickly.
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Uh, leading pedestrian interval,
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uh, or lpi, that
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s a recent
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project that we
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ve installed at
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uh nearly all of our signalized
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intersections, and what that
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does is that allows pedestrians
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to start crossing in the
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crosswalk before vehicles are
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able to go, um, and that really
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helps reduce conflicts between
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pedestrians and vehicles.
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We
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re improving visibility with
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our signal upgrades, so over
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the last couple months, you
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ve
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likely seen our initiative, uh,
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where we are starting to, uh,
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install a high visibility
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reflective traffic signal
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backplates uh on our traffic
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signals. So this really helps
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reduce red light running and
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certain types of intersection
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crashes.
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As an example, uh, this is
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Highway 101 at Lucadia
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Boulevard. Uh, you see the, the
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before on the left and the
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after on the right, and you see
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Leuccadia Roadside Park in the
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background, uh, really a nice
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heightened, uh, ability for us
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to, uh, show our uh traffic
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signals.
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Ok, onto e number 2, education.
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We
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re reaching residents,
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students and visitors.
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Uh, the sheriff
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s office does a
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know your limits campaign to
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help educate, uh, limits of
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intoxication for drivers. They
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go out to the community a
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couple of times a year, uh,
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really, really great event.
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i
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ve been out before, um, and
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it helps individuals that are
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out on the town, understand
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what that level of intoxication
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truly feels like.
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You have bicycle education and
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safety courses, so our parks
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and rec department, um, twice a
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month they offer a 2 hour
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bicycle skills and education
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safety course, uh, this is
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always packed. Uh, it
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s a great
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event, highly recommend you
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attend it if you have not, uh,
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especially if you have a
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younger bike riders.
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And then we do e-bike safety
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training and public outreach.
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So on AUGUST 4th, uh, we had a
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joint city and Sheriff e-bike
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safety workshop.
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And on AUGUST 19th, city
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council held an e-bike safety
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public meeting.
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Ok, onto e number 3,
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enforcement. We
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re deterring
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dangerous behaviors.
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In fiscal year 26, uh, city
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council funded 2 new traffic
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enforcement deputies.
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Uh, the sheriff
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s office does
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monthly traffic blitzes with
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targeted enforcement.
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Uh, they do e-bike enforcement,
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including seizures of e-bikes.
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And want to make a special note
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that city council is gonna hold
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a public meeting to discuss and
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explore the applicability of
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red light camera detection for
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sb 720 on SEPTEMBER 9th of this
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year.
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Now with that, I
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m gonna hand
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it over to Captain Watts to
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talk a little bit more about
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enforcement.
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Thank you, Dan, um, Captain
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Watts with the sheriff
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s office
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out of the North Coastal
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Station, um, you know.
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Where I fit in and in this
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conversation, I think is very
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important, um, and, you know,
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enforcement in itself is
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obviously important and we have
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done more we have really
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maximized our resources we have
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looked at how we can really
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change driver behavior with, um,
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maximizing enforcement, but.
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For me, more of the
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conversation, you know,
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education plays a huge piece in
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this as well, and that
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s why we
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have done a lot of education,
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um, one of the slides I
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ll show
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here in a second, you know, it
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captures how we
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ve maximize our
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enforcement, how we are doing
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more out on our roadways, uh,
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to change driver behavior, but
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what it doesn
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t capture is the
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countless contacts that we have
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with the community that um you
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know, results in the, uh, in a
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warning or that it
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s a.
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Chance for education. It
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s a
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chance to have that
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communication and, you know, I,
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I, I do believe that, uh, yes,
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enforcement is necessary, but a
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lot of times the person that
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leaves with a warning comes
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away with just as much as
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somebody that leaves with a
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ticket. So I think it
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s, uh,
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appropriate, um, that we
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balance that and we make sure
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that uh for one that we are
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doing that enforcement. We are
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maximizing it, but when there
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is room for education that we,
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uh, give some education. Um,
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another part of that that.
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Um,
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I think is equally important is
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the community and working with
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our community partners to
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address some of these, um,
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concerned areas on our roadways
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that need more focused
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enforcement or just need us to
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go out there and see what the
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community
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s seeing, um, I, I
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mean recently we went out on a
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bike ride, um, and we actually
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rode with community members. We
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rode around the city and we
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looked at areas from their
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perspective on.
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Uh, where we could, we could do
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more enforcement and even other
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areas that we can improve as a
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whole with the city, um, so, uh,
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working with our community, um,
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and bringing them in has been
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such a reward working with Safe
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Streets and uh hearing the
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ideas and uh our our mts
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commission has been wonderful.
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They have really been a huge
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help, um, but I think that that
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is important is really engaging
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with the community.
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Doing the enforcement and also
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that education and I will say
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you know as a whole, as we go
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into the slides, I think that
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that whole um circle approach
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is where and how we have gotten
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to where we are now. So next
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slide, please. So if you look,
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um, once again, uh, I have
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always said that I am always
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looking to maximize our
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resources. I
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m always looking
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for those, uh, deputy initiated
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activities, those proactive
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contacts to
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Improve. So improving off of,
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uh, 2025, you can see that we
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are continuing to approve this
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year. We are, we are ahead of
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where we were last year, and we
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continue that upward trend, um,
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and this is the momentum that
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we continue to strive for and
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and build upon, um, but you
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know.
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It
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s only meaningful if the
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results are meaningful, um, and
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so when I look at, ok, we are
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maximizing our enforcement, but
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the real goal is to change
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driver behavior so that our
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roadways are safer. So next
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slide please.
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So that
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s when this comes, you
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know, I, I constantly am
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looking at this to see monthly
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where we are as far as
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collisions throughout the city
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and as you can see, um, we are.
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We have less collisions this
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year so far than we did last
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year. Um, those are, uh, the
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results of everything I
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mentioned before and with the
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enforcement, but I really think,
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and I
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m optimistic to think
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that we are changing that
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driver behavior. People are
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slowing down with some of the
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measures that we
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ve done with
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the city, um, some of the
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infrastructure change, um, I
[15:26]
think people are paying more
[15:27]
attention. Um, they
[15:27]
re not on
[15:28]
their cell phones like they
[15:29]
were.
[15:29]
They
[15:30]
re not speeding as much as
[15:31]
they were, um, we
[15:31]
re, we
[15:32]
re
[15:33]
really putting that message out
[15:35]
to stop at stop signs, stop at
[15:36]
red lights. Um, it
[15:37]
s not worth.
[15:39]
Running a red light or a stop
[15:41]
sign, putting everybody else on
[15:44]
the roadway, um, in danger. So,
[15:45]
uh, I am happy we
[15:45]
re with where
[15:46]
we are. I think that, um, you
[15:48]
know, the summertime, we get so
[15:51]
many people that come into our,
[15:53]
um, city to enjoy our beaches
[15:56]
and our establishments, um, and
[15:56]
that
[15:58]
s when traditionally we
[16:00]
have seen a rise in collisions,
[16:01]
but I really think that because
[16:03]
the word has gotten out, we
[16:03]
ve
[16:06]
placed, um, even our, uh,
[16:07]
digital signs as you come into
[16:08]
our community.
[16:09]
To let people know, to slow
[16:10]
down, um, we
[16:11]
re paying
[16:12]
attention. There
[16:13]
s more of us
[16:14]
out there and we are doing more
[16:15]
enforcement, so I
[16:16]
m happy with
[16:17]
where we are. There
[16:17]
s still
[16:18]
room for improvement. We will
[16:19]
continue to improve.
[16:20]
Next slide.
[16:22]
Um, this was one of the areas
[16:24]
that when I was looking at our,
[16:26]
uh, DUIs.
[16:30]
You know, um, I wanted, and we,
[16:32]
I think, needed at the time and,
[16:34]
um, when we presented it to the
[16:36]
city and to the council and
[16:38]
mayor that we really needed
[16:41]
that extra enforcement for our
[16:44]
DUIs and when we were able to
[16:46]
add those two dui, uh, deputies
[16:47]
that are solely out there
[16:49]
looking to take these impaired
[16:50]
drivers off our roadways to
[16:54]
make them safer. Um, we saw our
[16:56]
arrests go up, but we also
[16:56]
started to.
[16:58]
See that there were more ride
[16:59]
shares at some of our
[17:01]
establishments at the end of
[17:02]
the, at the end of the night,
[17:03]
which is a positive thing
[17:04]
that
[17:05]
s what we want. We want
[17:06]
people to make those smart
[17:08]
decisions, not get in their car,
[17:09]
um, while they, while they
[17:10]
re
[17:10]
intoxicated, and that
[17:12]
s where
[17:13]
uh the know your limits. I
[17:14]
think that was huge. We went
[17:15]
out there with the community
[17:16]
and there were so many people
[17:20]
that came up to our booth as an
[17:21]
educational piece and they blew
[17:22]
in our breathalyzer and they
[17:24]
were astonished that they were
[17:26]
over the legal limit, um, and
[17:27]
they.
[17:29]
Many of them said, I thought I
[17:30]
probably was ok to drive and
[17:32]
they made smarter choices that
[17:32]
night, and it
[17:33]
s that ripple
[17:34]
effect that we
[17:34]
re looking for.
[17:35]
So we
[17:35]
ve done it twice, we
[17:36]
ll
[17:40]
continue to do those, um.
[17:42]
And getting ahead of those DUIs
[17:43]
is so important because if we
[17:45]
can take them off the roadway
[17:48]
before a collision, before they
[17:50]
crash into our infrastructure,
[17:52]
um, then we are all safer, and
[17:54]
that is the commitment that, uh,
[17:54]
I make. That
[17:55]
s the commitment
[17:56]
that our deputies are out there
[17:57]
making.
[17:59]
Next slide.
[18:01]
And then once again, when we
[18:03]
look at the results, um, yes,
[18:03]
we
[18:03]
re doing more enforcement,
[18:05]
but what does that look like?
[18:07]
And what it looks like is we
[18:08]
re
[18:11]
having less dui collisions. So,
[18:14]
our infrastructure is not being,
[18:17]
um, constantly, uh, hit, um, or
[18:19]
roundabouts or are being
[18:22]
navigated appropriately and, um,
[18:22]
we
[18:23]
re not seeing those
[18:25]
collisions as a result of
[18:26]
impaired driving, um, so I
[18:27]
think that, you know, as long
[18:28]
as we keep those.
[18:30]
Um,
[18:30]
And we
[18:32]
re, we continue to focus
[18:34]
on, yes, the enforcement, but
[18:36]
we should see some positive
[18:38]
results as well. And I think we
[18:39]
are seeing that. I think I
[18:39]
m
[18:41]
happy on the road that we are
[18:42]
going. Like I said, there
[18:43]
s
[18:46]
always room for improvement, um,
[18:48]
and I have committed many times
[18:50]
that that will be my commitment
[18:52]
is that we are consistently and
[18:54]
constantly looking for outside
[18:57]
of the box ideas, um, the
[18:58]
traffic safety monthly, uh,
[19:00]
enforcement, you know, that
[19:00]
that
[19:00]
s something that.
[19:02]
It now has gotten to other
[19:03]
cities. I
[19:04]
ve had phone calls
[19:05]
from other cities. I
[19:06]
ve had, uh,
[19:08]
phone calls from other station
[19:10]
captains asking like, what are
[19:11]
you guys doing over there? What,
[19:13]
what, tell me more about these,
[19:14]
um, enforcement days because
[19:15]
it
[19:16]
s not often that a captain
[19:18]
and a lieutenants and all the
[19:20]
sergeants and your detectives
[19:22]
are all in uniform in a patrol
[19:23]
car out making stops. And I
[19:24]
m
[19:25]
out there making stops and I
[19:26]
m
[19:28]
talking to the community, um,
[19:28]
but that
[19:29]
s important because it
[19:31]
takes all of us.
[19:33]
To make those changes. Um, so
[19:33]
I
[19:34]
m proud of the efforts that
[19:37]
we have, uh, made, um, and we
[19:39]
will continue to, to push
[19:41]
forward, uh, roadway safety
[19:42]
will be my priority. Vision
[19:45]
Zero, I do not want to lose one
[19:47]
life on our roadways, um.
[19:48]
And so anything and everything
[19:50]
that I can do to prevent that
[19:54]
and to educate our drivers, our,
[19:55]
uh, bicyclists, our
[19:55]
e-bicyclists, I
[19:56]
m gonna
[20:00]
continue to do that.
[20:02]
And working with our uh with
[20:04]
the uh traffic mobility
[20:06]
commission, um, you know, when
[20:08]
I started really looking at the,
[20:10]
the information that we were
[20:14]
providing them, um, it, it.
[20:15]
It wasn
[20:17]
t what, um, it needed
[20:20]
to be. Um, if we truly want to
[20:22]
give them the tools to, um,
[20:24]
look at some of these areas or
[20:25]
make some change, then we have
[20:27]
to provide them with the
[20:28]
information that they need to
[20:30]
do that. Um, and, you know, the,
[20:31]
the, the, well, that
[20:31]
s how
[20:32]
we
[20:33]
ve always done it. That
[20:33]
s
[20:34]
not good enough. If we can make
[20:35]
it better, we
[20:36]
ll make it better.
[20:40]
And I was so happy and, and, um,
[20:41]
appreciative to be able to sit
[20:43]
down with, uh, some of the
[20:44]
commissioners to really
[20:46]
make this report something that
[20:48]
was tangible and something that
[20:51]
they could act upon, um, and we
[20:52]
have gotten it to a point where
[20:53]
I really think there
[20:54]
s a lot
[20:56]
there, um, next slide, please.
[20:59]
One of the examples is we are
[21:01]
now showing as the year
[21:04]
progresses, what are traffic
[21:05]
accidents where they
[21:05]
re
[21:07]
occurring and you can start to
[21:10]
see on the map where our, you
[21:13]
know, problematic or concerns
[21:14]
are, and we need to
[21:17]
start looking at those areas to
[21:18]
see is, is it an enforcement
[21:20]
issue? Do we need to do more
[21:23]
enforcement? Is it, um, a
[21:25]
result of infrastructure. What
[21:27]
is that? And I think that by
[21:29]
providing them with this
[21:29]
information, it
[21:31]
s giving us
[21:33]
that perspective and allowing
[21:35]
us to start focusing in where
[21:36]
we can make some positive
[21:37]
change.
[21:39]
Next slide. Same with our dui,
[21:41]
uh, enforcement. This is, uh,
[21:42]
one of the things that we
[21:44]
started doing to show where
[21:47]
these dui arrests are occurring
[21:48]
and what wasn
[21:50]
t captured in the
[21:51]
previous slide that showed the
[21:54]
total amount is a lot of these
[21:56]
DUIs, um, they either are, by
[21:57]
the time that we get behind
[21:59]
them, we observed the impaired
[22:00]
driving, and we are ready to
[22:02]
make that traffic stop. They
[22:02]
d
[22:04]
be exited our city, so the
[22:05]
contact happens in another
[22:07]
jurisdiction.
[22:10]
Or they have, uh, gone onto the
[22:12]
freeway, the on-ramp, um, so
[22:13]
that when we actually do make
[22:15]
that arrest, it doesn
[22:16]
t count
[22:18]
in our statistics. It counts in
[22:21]
the city of the arrest. Um, so
[22:21]
there
[22:22]
s actually more than what
[22:25]
is, uh, being shown, but, um, I
[22:25]
think it
[22:27]
s interesting to see
[22:28]
where these arrests are
[22:29]
occurring.
[22:30]
And I think with that I
[22:30]
ll turn
[22:33]
it back over.
[22:36]
Ok.
[22:38]
Uh, 4 encouragement, where we
[22:40]
are developing positive habits.
[22:42]
So, uh, here at the city, we
[22:44]
have a culture built around
[22:47]
safety where we are encouraging
[22:48]
residents to consistently
[22:50]
practice and promote safe
[22:53]
transportation habits daily.
[22:54]
We have our school crossing
[22:58]
guard program. Uh, this is a
[23:00]
fifty-fifty cost share between
[23:01]
the city and the school
[23:02]
districts, and it
[23:03]
s a
[23:05]
cost-effective and safe program
[23:07]
that helps uh keep our kids and
[23:08]
parents safe while they
[23:09]
re
[23:11]
walking to and from school, uh,
[23:13]
city council added a 15th
[23:15]
crossing guard for fiscal year
[23:17]
27, so really an awesome and
[23:18]
important program for us here
[23:19]
at the city, um, and the
[23:22]
community.
[23:22]
You
[23:24]
ve likely seen our
[23:25]
changeable message signs uh
[23:27]
deployed throughout the city.
[23:30]
This was a city council
[23:31]
initiated request by the deputy
[23:32]
mayor, um, and it
[23:33]
s really been
[23:35]
a, a great tool where we, we
[23:39]
are able to give um awareness
[23:41]
and behavior feedback, uh,
[23:42]
immediately, and that helps
[23:44]
disrupt and interrupt a routine
[23:46]
driving habits, so that way the
[23:48]
hope and thought is while
[23:48]
you
[23:49]
re driving along, you are
[23:51]
seeing some of these signs and.
[23:53]
Creating good habits, uh,
[23:56]
regularly.
[23:58]
Our speed radar feedback signs.
[24:00]
Uh, so these are, are wonderful
[24:02]
to help give you an immediate
[24:03]
um.
[24:04]
Idea of what your speed is. I,
[24:05]
I know you
[24:06]
re not always
[24:08]
looking at your speedometer. So
[24:10]
the speed radar feedback signs
[24:12]
do a great job of giving you
[24:14]
that immediate feedback that
[24:16]
really hopes to uh encourage
[24:17]
drivers to slow down when
[24:19]
needed.
[24:21]
And number 5 is evaluation
[24:23]
where we are making data-driven
[24:26]
decisions. So, Encinitas uses
[24:28]
data analysis to direct
[24:30]
resources in the appropriate
[24:32]
location to increase roadway
[24:33]
safety. Uh, an example of this
[24:35]
is our local roadway safety
[24:39]
plan, or lrsp, um, the lrsp is
[24:42]
an has analyzed collision
[24:44]
patterns and prioritize
[24:46]
evidence-based countermeasures
[24:47]
like leading pedestrian
[24:48]
interval and speed management
[24:50]
to enhance safety. So that is a
[24:50]
document.
[24:52]
That we have compiled and that
[24:53]
has been approved by council
[24:55]
and it has projects uh that are
[24:57]
uh based on priority that the
[24:58]
city is currently moving
[25:00]
forward with implementing.
[25:02]
Uh, I also wanted to touch base
[25:04]
and, and uh speak briefly on
[25:06]
our draft comprehensive safety
[25:08]
action plan. Uh, so our
[25:09]
comprehensive safety Action
[25:12]
Plan or cisap, um, that is a
[25:14]
document that similarly is data
[25:15]
driven, um.
[25:17]
And on that.
[25:19]
We do have to make an update to
[25:21]
the circulation element, which
[25:23]
is currently underway. Uh, that
[25:24]
includes the safe system
[25:26]
approach. Uh, once our
[25:27]
circulation element is
[25:28]
finalized, uh, we will move
[25:32]
forward with, uh, that draft
[25:33]
csap to finalize the csap, uh,
[25:35]
but did want to make clear that
[25:37]
even though this is supposed to
[25:38]
be a comprehensive safety
[25:39]
action plan. It
[25:39]
s actually not
[25:42]
comprehensive. Um, it only
[25:43]
discusses incis Boulevard and
[25:45]
El Camino Real, uh, so that is
[25:47]
another adjustment that we need
[25:48]
to look at.
[25:50]
Uh, potentially for, uh, the
[25:51]
finalization of our csap, uh,
[25:52]
but the real important thing
[25:54]
here is not the document or
[25:54]
whether it
[25:55]
s in draft or final
[25:56]
form.
[25:58]
Is the reality that we
[25:58]
ve
[26:00]
already as a city implemented
[26:02]
40 of the near term projects.
[26:03]
So, um, whether it
[26:03]
s been
[26:05]
finalized or not, we still
[26:07]
utilize that document to
[26:08]
determine important projects to
[26:10]
move forward on.
[26:11]
Uh, here
[26:12]
s an example of our
[26:14]
lrsp. On the left is a little
[26:16]
bit of a heat map, uh, that
[26:16]
s
[26:17]
collision, uh, based
[26:18]
information, and then on the
[26:22]
right, uh, that is one of the
[26:24]
tables within the document that
[26:27]
gives you a, an analyzed
[26:30]
determination of uh based on
[26:33]
cost of what are most um or
[26:34]
highest intersection collision
[26:36]
area um and prioritization
[26:38]
would be.
[26:41]
Now
[26:42]
Even though there are a lot of
[26:43]
great things that we
[26:43]
ve been
[26:45]
talking about, um.
[26:46]
What have, what
[26:47]
s the city
[26:49]
really committed to these, uh,
[26:51]
so the financial commitment has
[26:53]
been extraordinary. Uh, when I
[26:54]
started putting these numbers
[26:56]
together, I, I was really,
[26:58]
really actually amazed by uh by
[27:01]
all the, the money that we are,
[27:02]
uh, putting towards the five
[27:03]
e
[27:06]
s, uh, so over the last two
[27:09]
fiscal years, our expenditures
[27:11]
plus the the estimated
[27:13]
expenditures for this fiscal
[27:13]
year.
[27:16]
Or over $60 million. Uh, so
[27:16]
that
[27:19]
s $1.6 million for the two
[27:22]
new traffic deputies.
[27:22]
That
[27:25]
s over $560,000 for a
[27:28]
school crossing guard program,
[27:31]
$58 million for roadway safety
[27:33]
infrastructure improvements.
[27:35]
$160,000 for a bike safety
[27:37]
education, uh, so it
[27:37]
s not just
[27:39]
talk here at the city, really,
[27:40]
it is a huge investment and
[27:42]
extremely important to us.
[27:43]
Uh, so, ultimately, to conclude,
[27:46]
uh, the city has an integrated
[27:47]
safety program.
[27:49]
We utilize the Five e
[27:49]
s
[27:51]
framework, we have a sustained
[27:52]
investment.
[27:55]
And we have a community
[27:56]
collaborative approach to
[27:57]
roadway safety and traffic
[28:00]
enforcement.
[28:03]
Thank you.
[28:05]
So for, I guess.
[28:08]
First of all, any questions of
[28:10]
clarification from city council.
[28:10]
If not, we
[28:12]
ll go to public. How
[28:14]
many speakers? 20 speakers, so
[28:16]
I mean we want to do public
[28:16]
input tonight. So we
[28:17]
re gonna
[28:18]
do the full 3 minutes and
[28:19]
that
[28:21]
s gonna take us an hour,
[28:23]
hopefully, people can be prompt
[28:25]
if you could, uh, the next stop
[28:26]
and the next, next up, if you
[28:28]
can move to the front row, just,
[28:29]
uh, keep it moving quickly. We
[28:30]
want to get through this an
[28:32]
hour, in an hour, so we have
[28:34]
time to, to discuss up here too.
[28:38]
So, with that, 1st 3 speakers,
[28:39]
Paul Chester, followed by Patty
[29:01]
Stoudemire, and then Ron Medek.
[29:03]
Hello.
[29:06]
Hello.
[29:08]
I had 2
[29:11]
I submitted two visual aids.
[29:13]
Uh, one, first one.
[29:16]
No.
[29:18]
The first one that
[29:19]
That
[29:21]
s the 2nd 1, but the 1st 1
[29:23]
that I presented, uh, I had
[29:28]
submitted on the 14th to the uh
[29:29]
engineering department.
[29:32]
Uh, the second one was, uh, I,
[29:34]
I wrote to the.
[29:36]
Author of an article which was
[29:38]
in the Encinitas Advocate.
[29:41]
On the
[29:43]
7th of AUGUST after she wrote
[29:45]
an article about.
[29:48]
Uh, the deaths of children over
[29:49]
the last couple of years, let
[29:49]
s
[29:51]
hold the, uh, time for a minute
[29:53]
here. Um um, do we have both
[29:55]
and uh, you do? Ok.
[29:57]
Just wanted to check, ok go
[30:00]
ahead the first one.
[30:02]
If I could
[30:08]
Go to the other one first.
[30:10]
Ok, has to do, this is the one
[30:13]
I had submitted to the engineer
[30:15]
department. The crosswalk,
[30:18]
which is an equestrian,
[30:20]
pedestrian crosswalk in on uh
[30:21]
El Camino.
[30:23]
Um, El Norte.
[30:25]
Uh, where there was fatality a
[30:28]
month ago.
[30:29]
The problem there and I
[30:30]
ve been
[30:32]
walking and running this area,
[30:34]
jogging this area for over 40
[30:35]
years.
[30:37]
Is that
[30:38]
When during the summer when the
[30:39]
sun.
[30:42]
Comes up from the east right
[30:46]
down the road, it is blinding
[30:49]
to cars headed eastward and,
[30:51]
and around 5 or 67 o
[30:51]
clock at
[30:52]
this time of year, it
[30:53]
s
[30:54]
blinding to those going
[30:56]
westward, and that was involved,
[30:58]
that involved in that accident
[30:58]
or the driver didn
[31:00]
t see the
[31:02]
person and so what I
[31:03]
m think,
[31:05]
while they have blink, the
[31:08]
blinking blinking lights at the
[31:10]
crosswalk since the cars are
[31:10]
speeding.
[31:13]
like 40, 50 miles an hour.
[31:15]
It would be better to have
[31:17]
another one.
[31:20]
That blinks 300 ft to the east.
[31:22]
On the west coast right at the
[31:26]
end of the uh Escondido Bridge.
[31:27]
Escondido Creek Bridge and also.
[31:31]
One
[31:33]
On the westbound, excuse me, on
[31:36]
the eastbound, west of the
[31:38]
crossing at the rise. There is
[31:40]
a, there is a diamond sign
[31:41]
there.
[31:43]
That says
[31:45]
Uh, trail crossing ahead, but
[31:48]
the drivers in those cars
[31:50]
cannot see that crosswalk until
[31:52]
7 seconds before they get to
[31:54]
that crosswalk.
[31:56]
The drivers on the going the
[31:58]
other direction.
[32:00]
Um, going westbound, it
[32:01]
s 4 to
[32:02]
5 seconds from the time they
[32:04]
get to the end of the bridge,
[32:04]
but they can
[32:06]
t really see that
[32:07]
blinking light because there
[32:08]
s
[32:10]
bushes that have overgrown and
[32:12]
block it. So that was our short
[32:14]
periods of time for somebody
[32:14]
who
[32:16]
s looking into the bright
[32:18]
sunshine, and that
[32:18]
s for
[32:20]
probably at least a couple of
[32:22]
months of the year. So I, by
[32:24]
putting the uh when the person
[32:26]
pushes a button to cross the
[32:29]
crosswalk. If those blink.
[32:33]
3 400 ft prior, I think the
[32:36]
speeding drivers would have a
[32:38]
better chance of being alerted
[32:40]
and slowing down.
[32:40]
So that
[32:41]
s, that
[32:42]
s involves that
[32:47]
one, the 2nd, 2nd, um.
[32:49]
Yeah, sorry, 3 minutes goes by
[32:52]
quickly. Oh, ok. Well, second
[32:52]
one, yeah, I
[32:54]
m sorry, yeah, you
[32:55]
have to, we, we have to limit
[32:57]
it to 3, so.
[32:58]
We, and we have the written,
[33:00]
written version you gave us.
[33:15]
Patty.
[33:18]
Wow.
[33:22]
Ok, um, mayor council road
[33:23]
safety, um, I
[33:24]
d like to thank
[33:27]
you, uh, the staff, the
[33:29]
mobility and traffic commission
[33:30]
and the council for all you
[33:33]
have done in the last 2 years
[33:36]
to improve road safety for all
[33:38]
modes of mobility.
[33:38]
Oh, here
[33:40]
s a clicker.
[33:42]
Uh, and I do believe you
[33:42]
re
[33:45]
willing to continue with these
[33:47]
efforts and more, some some in
[33:49]
our community are saying
[33:51]
efforts are not being made to
[33:53]
ensure safety and are
[33:55]
advocating for a complete
[33:59]
adaptation of this vision Zero
[34:01]
program citing success with
[34:03]
this program in Hoboken, New
[34:05]
Jersey, 9 years with no
[34:08]
fatalities, um, now I looked on
[34:11]
the Vision Zero website and it.
[34:13]
Looks like much of what they
[34:13]
re
[34:14]
doing, you
[34:14]
ve already done,
[34:16]
maybe not all of it, but a lot
[34:17]
of it.
[34:21]
Now Hoboken, New Jersey,
[34:25]
population 60,000 in a 1.2
[34:28]
square mile area.
[34:31]
Encinitas population 60,000, 20
[34:34]
square miles, um, so Hoboken,
[34:34]
let
[34:35]
s see where it is. It
[34:35]
s
[34:36]
like a stone
[34:39]
s throw across the
[34:42]
Hudson River from midtown
[34:44]
Manhattan and that dark blue
[34:47]
line there is like their uh
[34:49]
mobile transport like a subway
[34:50]
going over, um, according to
[34:53]
Brave ai 75% of residents in
[34:55]
Hoboken, New Jersey do not own
[34:57]
a car attributed to the.
[34:57]
City
[34:59]
s high walkability, public
[35:02]
transport, and parking
[35:04]
difficulties and 80% of the
[35:06]
commuters travel to work
[35:08]
without a personal vehicle.
[35:08]
So they
[35:09]
re not really like
[35:12]
Encinitas, but his vision zero
[35:15]
foolproof of zero fatalities
[35:17]
for 2 consecutive years or more
[35:21]
in all cities it is implemented
[35:21]
in.
[35:24]
According to Chat gbt, cities
[35:26]
with two consecutive years of
[35:28]
zero fatalities. Well, they
[35:28]
didn
[35:31]
t have any, u, other than
[35:35]
Hoboken, New Jersey City had
[35:39]
one. Alexandria 10 year Alameda
[35:41]
one San Francisco, San Jose,
[35:43]
Fremont, Los Angeles, New York,
[35:44]
none.
[35:45]
So, uh, thank you, City of
[35:47]
Encinitas for all you have done
[35:50]
and will continue to do for
[35:52]
improving our road safety for
[36:01]
all in Encinitas.
[36:02]
Martin, I have a couple of
[36:03]
things that have come up, right?
[36:10]
Yes you did.
[36:11]
Do you want to uh work with him
[36:12]
and we
[36:13]
ll go to the next one
[36:17]
and insert you in later so.
[36:19]
Next 3 speakers, Peter Tobias,
[36:21]
followed by Johnny Durbin and
[36:32]
then John Eldon.
[36:33]
Good afternoon. My name is
[36:35]
Peter Tobias. I
[36:37]
ve lived at 564
[36:39]
Arden Drive just east of here,
[36:41]
about 3 blocks since 1980.
[36:43]
I strongly believe that we do
[36:44]
not have enough traffic
[36:45]
enforcement.
[36:47]
Whether that means more
[36:49]
deputies or more electronic
[36:51]
enforcement, we need it.
[36:51]
I don
[36:53]
t know whether the two
[36:54]
new traffic enforcement, I
[36:55]
don
[36:57]
t know where the two new
[36:58]
traffic enforcement deputies
[36:59]
mentioned in today
[37:00]
s paperwork,
[37:02]
but I have not seen them or
[37:04]
virtually any deputies in my
[37:06]
part of Encinitas.
[37:06]
Let
[37:07]
s talk about speed limits.
[37:10]
As you know, the city lowered
[37:11]
many speed limits a year or two
[37:14]
ago, but without enforcement of
[37:16]
those limits, all they do is
[37:17]
teach people that there are no
[37:20]
consequences to speeding.
[37:22]
Where do people speed in my
[37:23]
neighborhood, they speed on
[37:26]
Requeza between Walk West Lake,
[37:27]
and the freeway. The speed
[37:29]
limit there is 20 miles an hour.
[37:31]
But even the kids on their
[37:34]
e-bikes break that record.
[37:36]
If I try to observe it.
[37:38]
The traffic behind me honks
[37:40]
their horns.
[37:41]
Earlier this afternoon, I was
[37:43]
driving west on La Costa
[37:45]
between El Camino Real and the
[37:47]
freeway. I was passed by a car
[37:48]
going just under 70 miles an
[37:49]
hour.
[37:52]
I know that because briefly I
[37:53]
matched his speed and checked
[37:56]
my speedometer.
[37:57]
Another place they speed is on
[37:59]
the Coast Highway, coming north
[38:01]
out of Solana Beach. The 30
[38:03]
minute mile per hour speed
[38:05]
limit there is routinely
[38:07]
flouted despite
[38:09]
Informational science that we
[38:10]
saw earlier.
[38:10]
Let
[38:12]
s talk about red lights.
[38:13]
Most of the problems I
[38:13]
ve seen
[38:15]
are at the Ramble crossings at
[38:18]
d and e Streets on 101 downtown
[38:20]
because I spent a lot of time
[38:22]
in that part of the city.
[38:24]
A few weeks ago, I was trying
[38:25]
to back out of the single
[38:28]
parking space in front of
[38:28]
Mauricio
[38:30]
s Italian restaurant.
[38:32]
A truck horn blared as I was
[38:33]
backing up, and when I looked
[38:35]
to see what was going on, the
[38:37]
truck sped through the Ramble
[38:38]
Crossing as the light turned
[38:40]
red.
[38:42]
At that same intersection of d
[38:45]
and 101, 2 weeks ago, I started
[38:47]
to cross going west just after
[38:49]
the red lights came on and a
[38:51]
truck came out of d Street
[38:52]
headed east and turned left,
[38:53]
right in front of me.
[38:55]
When I tried to signal the
[38:57]
driver to stop, he certainly
[39:00]
saw me well enough because he
[39:02]
gave me the finger.
[39:03]
We haven
[39:03]
t talked about stop
[39:04]
signs.
[39:05]
I haven
[39:06]
t talked about stop
[39:08]
signs. If you want to see how
[39:09]
people use stop signs in this
[39:12]
city. Go up here 100 yards to
[39:13]
the corner of Cornish and d
[39:14]
Street.
[39:17]
By the dog park across from the
[39:19]
library as I was walking down
[39:21]
here, I saw 4 cars go through
[39:23]
that stop sign without stopping.
[39:27]
Three of them slowed slightly,
[39:28]
and one of them simply sped
[39:29]
through.
[39:31]
Now I imagine that these things
[39:33]
happen all over town, and we
[39:34]
certainly need deputies and
[39:36]
hopefully more to enforce the
[39:40]
laws we need speed cameras, so.
[39:42]
Yeah, well, I, I, I, if I do it
[39:45]
for you, I have to do it.
[39:47]
Peter, Peter, I gotta cut you
[39:48]
off. I
[39:49]
m sorry. Yeah, we, we
[39:50]
get the message and.
[39:58]
We understand.
[40:00]
Good evening. Uh, my name is
[40:01]
Johnny Durbin. I
[40:02]
m an Encinitas
[40:03]
resident.
[40:03]
I
[40:05]
d like to talk to you today
[40:07]
about Vision Zero.
[40:09]
From coast to coast, more than
[40:11]
100 towns and cities have
[40:13]
embraced Vision Zero or aspects
[40:13]
of it.
[40:16]
Places like Columbus, Ohio and
[40:18]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where
[40:19]
traffic injuries have dropped
[40:20]
sharply.
[40:22]
We see it in mid-size towns
[40:24]
like our neighbors in Vista.
[40:26]
To guard Oregon.
[40:28]
And Hoboken, New Jersey, which
[40:28]
we
[40:31]
ve already heard about.
[40:33]
With 9 consecutive years
[40:34]
without a single traffic
[40:36]
fatality.
[40:38]
For masses of massive hubs like
[40:40]
New York, Los Angeles, and
[40:42]
Austin to suburban communities
[40:43]
like Deerfield, Florida.
[40:45]
In Oak Park, Illinois.
[40:47]
This is an incredibly diverse
[40:49]
list of cities with the same
[40:50]
commitment.
[40:51]
Safe streets are not a
[40:53]
political issue, but a shared
[40:55]
American priority.
[40:56]
Leaders in communities across
[40:58]
the United States are treating
[41:00]
road design as a core principle
[41:03]
of their duty to ensure public
[41:04]
safety.
[41:05]
Vision Zero operates on the
[41:07]
core principle that human
[41:09]
nature or humans naturally make
[41:10]
mistakes.
[41:12]
And to account for this
[41:13]
physical to account for these
[41:15]
mistakes, physical road
[41:17]
environment should be designed
[41:19]
to absorb these mistakes
[41:21]
without them resulting in death
[41:23]
or severe injury.
[41:25]
Vision Zero does this by
[41:27]
leveraging physics, engineering,
[41:30]
and common sense.
[41:31]
It prioritizes roundabouts,
[41:33]
fixing crosswalks, and
[41:34]
utilizing smart technology to
[41:36]
manage speed and red light
[41:37]
running.
[41:39]
Towns across our country are
[41:40]
making meaning meaningful
[41:43]
changes to reduce and possibly
[41:44]
eliminate traffic deaths and
[41:46]
Encinitas scan too.
[41:48]
The future of American
[41:49]
infrastructure is one that
[41:51]
stops treating traffic deaths
[41:52]
as inevitable and starts
[41:54]
treating them as preventable.
[41:56]
Protecting our neighborhoods is
[41:57]
our collective responsibility.
[41:58]
Thank you.
[42:04]
Thank you.
[42:05]
John Eldon and following John
[42:07]
Eldon will be Ron Maddak.
[42:09]
And then Mike Doranski.
[42:11]
Hi, uh, John Eldon, just real
[42:13]
quick, I want to give credit
[42:15]
where credit is due. We
[42:17]
ve had
[42:18]
some resurfacing incis
[42:20]
Boulevard, uh, Lucadia
[42:22]
Boulevard and re-striping along
[42:25]
with opportunistic and the
[42:25]
results.
[42:26]
Are
[42:27]
near perfect.
[42:28]
So that
[42:29]
s been excellent as far
[42:30]
as Vision Zero, it sounds like
[42:30]
we
[42:31]
re already doing a lot of
[42:34]
that, as was mentioned earlier,
[42:34]
so I think that
[42:35]
s great. Uh,
[42:37]
the other one I wanna mention,
[42:37]
I think you
[42:40]
ll hear it from Ron
[42:43]
too, is that on Vulcan, for
[42:46]
instance, the crosswalk at
[42:49]
Orpheus is raised, and so we
[42:51]
have a slow as well as then you
[42:53]
also have the flashers and the
[42:55]
rest of it, and yeah, that
[42:56]
might be worth exploring. I
[42:57]
know we have to balance.
[42:58]
With what the fire department
[43:00]
needs. I get that.
[43:03]
Right, the first responders
[43:04]
have legitimate arguments as
[43:06]
far as traffic calming and road
[43:08]
design, but if we can work with
[43:09]
them, get them happy, and at
[43:11]
the same time slow down traffic
[43:12]
in general. I think we
[43:13]
re way
[43:14]
ahead.
[43:17]
And then finally there are
[43:17]
places I
[43:19]
m not 100% against
[43:20]
Ballards because, for instance,
[43:23]
at both ends of Sunset Drive,
[43:23]
we
[43:25]
ve squared the intersections
[43:27]
which are otherwise diverges
[43:28]
and merges, and I think that
[43:28]
s
[43:30]
been helpful on calming traffic
[43:32]
of those two. So anyway, thanks
[43:47]
a lot and keep up good work.
[43:51]
Um, Ron Matdoch Leenheim, um, I
[43:52]
wanna begin by thanking, uh, MR.
[43:54]
Nutter for a very good
[43:56]
presentation detailing
[43:56]
everything the city
[43:57]
s been
[43:57]
working on.
[43:58]
And although a lot has been
[44:00]
done, I think there is much
[44:02]
that needs to be done to
[44:03]
improve traffic safety in
[44:04]
Encinitas.
[44:06]
Um, for many reasons, among
[44:08]
them the force build out
[44:09]
throughout San Diego County.
[44:10]
It
[44:11]
s definitely an increase in
[44:13]
traffic throughout town and
[44:14]
with it an increase in
[44:15]
irresponsible driving.
[44:17]
There are a number of roads
[44:19]
that lend themselves to this
[44:21]
dangerous behavior, and among
[44:22]
them is El Camino del Norte.
[44:24]
And I know it well. I bicycle
[44:25]
it every week and I still
[44:26]
didn
[44:27]
t realize it was a speed
[44:28]
corridor.
[44:31]
A few days after the crash, the
[44:31]
Tuch Fin Faddock
[44:32]
s life, my son
[44:34]
and I went to the trail
[44:35]
crossing and tape measured with
[44:36]
a 50 ft tape measure what
[44:38]
appears to be the physical
[44:40]
evidence.
[44:43]
And um,
[44:45]
We did not have, um, thank you
[44:47]
for that, uh, admittedly we did
[44:48]
not have access to the vehicle
[44:50]
in order to be able to verify
[44:53]
that the fresh black skid marks
[44:55]
came from the Nissan z and we
[44:55]
didn
[44:57]
t have the electronic data
[44:59]
recorder, the sheriff
[45:00]
s
[45:01]
investigation committee team
[45:02]
does.
[45:04]
And um if one just looks at the
[45:08]
skid marks alone, 71 ft. It
[45:08]
s
[45:10]
clear this was the conditions
[45:12]
that this driver saw as he went
[45:14]
up the road 100 yards from that
[45:15]
crossing.
[45:17]
Very clear that he was well in
[45:19]
excess of what was a safe speed,
[45:20]
which was less, I
[45:21]
m sure, than
[45:22]
the 35 miles an hour that was
[45:24]
posted.
[45:25]
Unfortunately, there
[45:26]
s a subset
[45:28]
of drivers that are
[45:30]
incorrigible and dangerous to
[45:32]
all of us, and we can
[45:33]
t stop
[45:34]
them alone by trying to stop
[45:36]
their behavior. We need to
[45:38]
actually physically slow those
[45:40]
vehicles, and I think the
[45:42]
committee should be formed to
[45:43]
use traffic devices that slow
[45:45]
vehicles on the roads that are
[45:48]
found to be the prime roads and
[45:49]
begin with us, we can look at
[45:51]
the whole city, but we can run
[45:53]
the most dangerous the devices
[45:55]
used to be such as.
[45:56]
Speed cushions raised
[45:57]
crosswalks, raised
[45:58]
intersections, speed tables,
[46:00]
rumble strips, roundabouts, as
[46:02]
well as all other manner of
[46:03]
devices. We have people here
[46:04]
that are perfectly capable of
[46:05]
doing that, and I suggest to
[46:07]
the committee in my public
[46:07]
comment, and I
[46:08]
m gonna include
[46:10]
a close first responders, that
[46:12]
would be Chief Gordon and the
[46:14]
Captain Watts.
[46:16]
Um,
[46:17]
The second thing is
[46:19]
unfortunately we have some
[46:20]
infrastructure that
[46:21]
s been put
[46:22]
in place, which is also
[46:23]
dangerous. It
[46:24]
s cost 2 lives of
[46:26]
cyclists unnecessarily, uh,
[46:27]
which is a scandal. It
[46:28]
s also
[46:30]
caused multiple injuries, um,
[46:31]
especially on the South Beach
[46:34]
area, uh, we have a committee
[46:37]
now formed on the mtsc with
[46:38]
John Eldon and myself and we
[46:39]
re
[46:40]
looking forward to cooperation
[46:41]
and support from the city
[46:44]
council, uh, in a subcommittee
[46:45]
to evaluate, uh, with the
[46:47]
purpose of removing.
[46:48]
Dangerous and unnecessary bull.
[46:49]
Thank you.
[47:00]
Thank you.
[47:03]
Right, thanks for that, um.
[47:03]
I
[47:04]
d like to start by thanking
[47:06]
the council for hosting this.
[47:06]
It
[47:08]
s great to see the, um, the
[47:09]
turnout. Clearly a lot of
[47:10]
people are caring about street
[47:11]
safety, which is awesome.
[47:14]
Um, and to put it on a special
[47:15]
meeting. I appreciate it. You
[47:15]
guys spent a lot of time
[47:17]
working and coming and staying
[47:19]
up late and um I appreciate it.
[47:20]
Also, thank you for the staff
[47:21]
for the report and all the hard
[47:24]
work. I think we can all agree
[47:25]
that um staff has been
[47:27]
fantastic.
[47:29]
And it requires us to hold some
[47:30]
of this nuance in our minds as
[47:32]
we think through the current
[47:33]
situation because we can have
[47:35]
an amazing staff, a strong
[47:36]
council, a wonderful sheriff,
[47:38]
be working on a really
[47:39]
important projects, spending
[47:40]
tons of money doing it. It
[47:40]
s
[47:41]
still not getting the result
[47:43]
that we want.
[47:43]
We
[47:45]
ve had 17 fatalities since
[47:47]
2016 for pedestrians and
[47:48]
cyclists.
[47:48]
That
[47:49]
s a lot.
[47:49]
So it
[47:50]
s gonna take some
[47:52]
leadership to admit that even
[47:52]
though we
[47:53]
re working hard, that
[47:53]
there
[47:54]
s a gap between where we
[47:56]
are now and where we want to be.
[47:57]
And we need to figure out how
[47:59]
to bridge that gap.
[48:01]
Our community Safe Streets
[48:02]
Enitas came together after
[48:03]
Emery
[48:04]
s death last year. It
[48:05]
really hit Parkdale Lane hard.
[48:07]
We watched John and Bridget go
[48:08]
through what they
[48:08]
ve had to go
[48:09]
through, and we
[48:10]
ve just seen so
[48:12]
much pain across the community.
[48:14]
Our advocacy has always been
[48:16]
about
[48:17]
Stopping fatalities on the
[48:18]
streets, and it continues to be.
[48:20]
The Hoboken cases study is
[48:22]
actually just about process.
[48:22]
It
[48:24]
s not about what they did.
[48:25]
This goes into the 5th e
[48:26]
evaluation, I guess is gonna be
[48:28]
my request.
[48:30]
How do we draw a direct line
[48:32]
from the risks that are causing
[48:34]
the fatalities to the projects
[48:34]
that we
[48:35]
re spending money on
[48:35]
and make sure that we
[48:36]
re
[48:37]
getting the results that we
[48:37]
need. We
[48:38]
ve already had
[48:39]
multiple people come up here
[48:40]
and talk about what happened on
[48:42]
El Camino del Norte.
[48:44]
The community needs a place
[48:46]
after fatality to show up and
[48:46]
speak about what they
[48:47]
re
[48:47]
feeling, what they
[48:48]
ve seen,
[48:50]
share ideas, and we need to
[48:52]
address it. There
[48:52]
s been 6
[48:54]
fatalities since Brodie got,
[48:55]
got hit.
[48:55]
She
[49:00]
s just been 3 years.
[49:00]
I haven
[49:02]
t seen a single one of
[49:03]
those locations reviewed
[49:07]
publicly.
[49:08]
We might be doing some of this
[49:09]
already and that
[49:10]
s the request
[49:11]
for more transparency around
[49:12]
the 5th e. If we
[49:12]
re doing some
[49:13]
of this, let
[49:13]
s please make it
[49:14]
public. I think there
[49:15]
s a home
[49:17]
for it at mtsfc maybe somewhere
[49:17]
else.
[49:19]
Um
[49:19]
I don
[49:20]
t care if we call it
[49:21]
Vision Zero.
[49:22]
I don
[49:23]
t care if we take
[49:25]
inspiration from Hoboken.
[49:25]
Or we just don
[49:26]
t want to see
[49:27]
any more kids get run over and
[49:30]
crosswalks.
[49:32]
So the request is that we have
[49:35]
some kind of fatality review.
[49:37]
Let the community come together.
[49:37]
Let
[49:39]
s get our crack stuff
[49:40]
working on it. I think we can
[50:00]
do this, you guys. Thank you.
[50:02]
Next 3 speakers Laura Russell,
[50:03]
followed by Travis Newhouse,
[50:10]
and then Chris Giles.
[50:10]
Hi, I
[50:11]
m Laura Russell, and I
[50:14]
want to thank the previous
[50:16]
speakers, uh, especially Ron
[50:17]
Medd, um, whos always been a,
[50:19]
if you could address us.
[50:21]
Yeah, thank you, helps.
[50:24]
That way we can hear you but
[50:26]
that was a somewhat heroic
[50:28]
testimony, and I want to thank
[50:30]
him for it. Um, I
[50:30]
m Laura
[50:32]
Russell. I live at the
[50:34]
intersection of Windmill Ranch
[50:36]
Road and El Camino del Norte.
[50:40]
And I think it bears repeating
[50:40]
what we
[50:42]
re actually talking
[50:45]
about today and that is
[50:47]
pedestrian fatalities. 6 weeks
[50:48]
ago, on JULY 10th.
[50:51]
I was sitting in my family room.
[50:53]
And with apologies to any
[50:54]
family or friends of the
[50:56]
deceased who MAY be here. I
[50:59]
heard a thud.
[51:03]
I heard a screech of tires.
[51:06]
I heard voices yelling.
[51:08]
By the time I got my shoes on
[51:10]
and myself down to right where
[51:13]
the accident took place, a 17
[51:14]
year old girl had been
[51:18]
pronounced dead in one of the
[51:21]
enhanced crosswalks that people
[51:22]
in our area take as maybe as a
[51:24]
suggestion. They never stopped
[51:25]
there.
[51:27]
So,
[51:31]
I think one of my main concerns
[51:34]
is despite some.
[51:36]
Modest tributes that friends
[51:37]
and family have left for that
[51:40]
teenage girl at the site of the
[51:43]
accident, there is no other
[51:45]
acknowledgement that that
[51:47]
teenage girl died there.
[51:50]
Drivers can drive by with no
[51:52]
knowledge that someone just
[51:54]
died there.
[51:57]
So my request is that.
[51:59]
To dovetail on the previous
[52:02]
speaker, we need more public
[52:03]
acknowledgement of these
[52:06]
fatalities. Someone lost their
[52:08]
beautiful teenage daughter. And
[52:12]
I think the drivers who are
[52:15]
using our corridor to um
[52:16]
commute from Escondido to the
[52:18]
coast and back every day at
[52:20]
high speeds. I need to borrow
[52:21]
Bruce
[52:23]
s speed gun if I can. I
[52:24]
think the
[52:26]
Speed limit there is 35. It
[52:27]
s
[52:30]
people are going 40, 50, 60. I
[52:31]
stopped at the sheriff
[52:31]
s office
[52:33]
just before the meeting tonight.
[52:33]
They
[52:34]
re always so nice and
[52:35]
helpful, but they wanted to
[52:37]
know, well, when do you want us
[52:39]
to conduct a speed trap there
[52:39]
because that
[52:40]
s one of my
[52:44]
solutions. And I said, uh,
[52:46]
practically 24/7, uh, we hear
[52:46]
as we
[52:48]
re sleeping at night, we
[52:49]
hear people racing during
[52:51]
commute hours, people are
[52:51]
racing.
[52:53]
Um
[52:54]
And frankly, I
[52:56]
m not picky.
[52:56]
I
[52:58]
ll take stop signs. I
[52:59]
ll take
[53:00]
speed bumps, whatever you
[53:00]
re
[53:04]
willing to give us. We need
[53:06]
physical impediments to
[53:08]
speeders on that road, and I do
[53:09]
thank you for all of your work
[53:21]
on that issue.
[53:21]
Hello, I
[53:23]
m Travis Newhouse, uh,
[53:24]
resident of District 2 and
[53:26]
member of Ensigns Bike Walk. I
[53:27]
just wanna start, uh, say thank
[53:28]
you to City council and staff
[53:30]
for the new bike rides at
[53:30]
Swami
[53:31]
s, uh, the upgrade from
[53:33]
the old wave style rack has
[53:34]
more capacity and much more
[53:35]
room for bikes with surf racks.
[53:37]
So thank you. Um, now on the
[53:39]
topic of safe streets. Uh, I
[53:42]
moved to Encinitas in 2011
[53:43]
because I found a neighborhood
[53:44]
where my kids could walk and
[53:46]
bike to school.
[53:47]
And back then, few bikes were
[53:49]
on the road. Adults or kids.
[53:51]
Parents that I knew at school
[53:51]
told me they didn
[53:52]
t feel safe
[53:53]
letting their kids ride, and
[53:53]
that
[53:54]
s why I got involved with
[53:56]
Encious Bike Walk.
[53:58]
This morning, I rode past
[53:59]
Oceannolano Crest on the way to
[54:01]
the barber. I saw dozens of
[54:02]
families on cargo bikes, kids
[54:03]
riding their own bikes, and
[54:05]
even more students walking.
[54:06]
When my own kids were young, I
[54:08]
only saw those numbers when we
[54:09]
organized a bike and walk to
[54:11]
school day. I was very happy to
[54:12]
see the improvement.
[54:14]
And that tells you something.
[54:15]
Demand for safe streets isn
[54:16]
t
[54:17]
hypothetical. It
[54:18]
s already here
[54:18]
every morning.
[54:19]
And I appreciate what I
[54:20]
ve seen
[54:22]
in the city do in the 15 years
[54:22]
that I
[54:22]
ve lived here, but I
[54:24]
think we can do more.
[54:26]
When I hear people talking
[54:27]
about e-bikes as a problem, I
[54:28]
cringe.
[54:31]
I see it as an opportunity.
[54:32]
Every person on a bike or
[54:34]
e-bike is one less car on our
[54:35]
streets.
[54:38]
We should be encouraging that
[54:39]
transportation choice by
[54:40]
providing safe streets that
[54:42]
give people of all ages the
[54:43]
freedom to get around.
[54:45]
While cutting traffic for
[54:47]
everyone.
[54:48]
Council members o
[54:48]
Hara and
[54:49]
Schaeffer, uh, you have talked
[54:51]
about routing bikes and
[54:52]
pedestrians onto calmer, safer
[54:54]
streets. I love that idea. And
[54:55]
I
[54:58]
m asking the city to build a
[54:59]
comprehensive calm street
[55:00]
network connecting our
[55:01]
neighborhoods to the places we
[55:02]
want to go.
[55:04]
So that we can get there safely.
[55:05]
Lowering the speed limits is a
[55:06]
good first step that we
[55:07]
ve
[55:09]
tried, but I still see drivers
[55:10]
speeding on streets in my
[55:11]
neighborhood like Gardena,
[55:13]
Melba, and Nardo Road.
[55:15]
Signs alone are not enough.
[55:17]
We need physical infrastructure.
[55:19]
We need streets to be built to
[55:20]
keep speeds low.
[55:22]
There are great examples in
[55:23]
Cardiff on Rubenstein Avenue
[55:25]
and Summit Avenue, where they
[55:26]
have chicanes that slow down
[55:27]
the speed of cars.
[55:29]
More of that is necessary in
[55:31]
Encinitas.
[55:32]
Safer streets are an
[55:34]
opportunity.
[55:35]
To give people transportation
[55:36]
choices.
[55:38]
Prevent deaths and injuries.
[55:39]
And to make every neighborhood
[55:53]
in Encinitas better. Thank you.
[55:54]
Hello, my name
[55:55]
s Chris Giles,
[55:57]
uh, district 2 and a member of
[55:59]
Encinitas Bike Walk. Uh, I want
[56:00]
to start off thanking all of
[56:02]
you and city staff for all the
[56:02]
work that
[56:03]
s been done because
[56:04]
there has been a lot of stuff
[56:05]
done.
[56:07]
Um, during the oral
[56:09]
communications at the last
[56:10]
mobility traffic Safety
[56:11]
commission meeting, a woman who
[56:12]
lives in the neighborhood west
[56:15]
of the 5 near Roquesa expressed
[56:17]
her concern that increased
[56:18]
traffic on Encs Boulevard was
[56:20]
leading to more, more motorists
[56:21]
using Riqueza and surrounding
[56:23]
neighborhood streets as a cut
[56:25]
through to cross the freeway.
[56:26]
She
[56:27]
s visibly frustrated by the
[56:28]
number of motorists and how
[56:28]
fast they
[56:29]
re driving. These
[56:31]
neighborhoods are where people
[56:33]
live. Children play, and people
[56:34]
walk their dogs, and these are
[56:36]
quiet city streets that
[56:39]
should not be used, uh, as
[56:40]
expressways for motorists
[56:42]
convenience. Riqueza is one of
[56:44]
the two routes where people
[56:46]
walking or biking can cross the
[56:47]
freeway without conflicting
[56:48]
with motorists entering or
[56:51]
exiting the 5. It is a key
[56:53]
route for kids riding their
[56:54]
bikes between several schools
[56:56]
downtown in the uh surrounding
[56:58]
neighborhoods. Unfortunately I
[56:59]
commonly see motorists driving
[57:02]
35 to 40 miles an hour across
[57:03]
the narrow freeway bridge where
[57:06]
kids share the lane. Crest.
[57:08]
And Melva are uh primary
[57:10]
connection for kids traveling
[57:12]
between East Encinitas and
[57:13]
schools, the park and the
[57:15]
community center, yet both of
[57:17]
these streets force kids on
[57:19]
bikes to share the same road
[57:21]
with motorists who often drive
[57:23]
above the speed limit.
[57:24]
This next part might sound like
[57:25]
it was rehearsed because it
[57:26]
s.
[57:28]
Kind of the same thing that
[57:29]
Travis just said, um, council
[57:32]
member Schaeffer, you have on
[57:34]
numerous occasions said that.
[57:37]
A solution to our motorists,
[57:39]
cyclist conflicts is for
[57:41]
cyclists to avoid arterial
[57:43]
streets and residential streets,
[57:44]
honestly, I agree with you. I
[57:47]
personally ride my bike and for
[57:49]
utility and transportation all
[57:51]
over Encinitas on a daily basis.
[57:53]
I primarily ride on residential
[57:54]
streets because it
[57:55]
s safer,
[57:57]
quieter and simply more
[57:59]
enjoyable to ride, but when
[57:59]
we
[58:01]
re trying to encourage
[58:02]
cyclists of all ages and
[58:04]
abilities to ride on
[58:05]
residential.
[58:05]
Streets, it doesn
[58:07]
t just mean
[58:08]
pushing them onto side streets
[58:10]
and then problem solved. Mixing
[58:12]
a young child or an older
[58:14]
cyclist riding at 12 miles an
[58:17]
hour with an impatient motorist
[58:17]
who
[58:18]
s driving 30 miles an hour
[58:20]
trying to get across town
[58:23]
quickly means more conflict and
[58:25]
more collisions for your idea
[58:26]
to be successful, and I do
[58:28]
believe that it can be. Those
[58:30]
residential streets need to be
[58:32]
designated as slow streets.
[58:33]
This means 20 mile an hour
[58:35]
speed limits.
[58:37]
Actual infrastructure that
[58:38]
physically slows motorist
[58:40]
traffic, such as speed cushions,
[58:42]
increased enforcement, and
[58:43]
possibly speed cameras. Let
[58:43]
s
[58:45]
build a network of slow streets
[58:48]
all over Encinitas that give
[58:50]
riding bikes or walking, the
[58:52]
freedom to move around town
[58:52]
safely and let
[58:53]
s start with the
[58:55]
residential corridor from Crest
[58:56]
to the east to the library in
[58:58]
downtown to the west. Thank you.
[59:05]
Next 3 speakers, Judy Burlfein,
[59:06]
followed by Connie Leslie, and
[59:16]
then Dennis Caden.
[59:16]
Hi, I
[59:18]
m Judy Burlfin, and I
[59:18]
m
[59:19]
also a member of Antonina
[59:20]
s
[59:21]
Bike Walk.
[59:23]
So thank you to the staff for
[59:25]
putting together a great
[59:26]
presentation, which I
[59:27]
m
[59:29]
guessing was maybe unfairly
[59:31]
short notice.
[59:32]
The two previous speakers
[59:34]
discussed a neighborhood
[59:35]
network, something that we can
[59:37]
all agree on.
[59:39]
But we must recognize that no
[59:42]
matter how great that
[59:43]
neighborhood network is one
[59:46]
must cross a major street to
[59:48]
get anywhere in this city.
[59:48]
I can
[59:51]
t go to Paullecky school
[59:52]
without crossing Encinitas
[59:53]
Boulevard and Vulcan.
[59:54]
Unless I
[59:55]
m willing to go way
[59:56]
out of my way.
[59:56]
I can
[59:58]
t go to my weight
[59:59]
trainer
[1:00:00]
s house in Spyglass
[1:00:03]
without crossing El Camino Real.
[1:00:05]
And when I was at Fox Pointe
[1:00:05]
Farms and I
[1:00:06]
d driven there and
[1:00:08]
drove parked on the other side
[1:00:10]
of Lucadia Boulevard.
[1:00:12]
There were 3 cars ready to hit
[1:00:14]
me as I crossed Lucadia
[1:00:16]
Boulevard as they turn right or
[1:00:18]
turned left.
[1:00:19]
So intersections are major
[1:00:20]
hazards. They
[1:00:21]
re one of the
[1:00:22]
four focus areas of the Safe
[1:00:23]
Streets group. They
[1:00:24]
re high on
[1:00:26]
the list of the comprehensive
[1:00:28]
safety action plan, and they
[1:00:30]
are high on the list of
[1:00:32]
Encinitas bike Walk, so how can
[1:00:33]
we improve the safety of our
[1:00:35]
intersections.
[1:00:37]
Many of the measures we have
[1:00:38]
installed around the city can
[1:00:39]
help.
[1:00:43]
Refuge islands, bulb outs, LPIs,
[1:00:44]
pedestrian scrambles, speed
[1:00:47]
radar signs, bicycle signals,
[1:00:49]
and quick build roundabouts.
[1:00:51]
But before we take any action,
[1:00:54]
we need a method of evaluating
[1:00:55]
the measures we
[1:00:56]
ve installed,
[1:00:57]
and I learned today about some
[1:00:58]
of the evaluations you
[1:00:59]
ve done
[1:00:59]
already. I
[1:01:00]
d love to know if
[1:01:01]
there are more that we don
[1:01:03]
know about.
[1:01:04]
The real question is how do
[1:01:06]
speeds go down if we post lower
[1:01:09]
speed limits, so you said 2.2
[1:01:11]
miles. I think if we change
[1:01:12]
street design, we can bring
[1:01:14]
them down to what we
[1:01:14]
re
[1:01:16]
actually posting.
[1:01:20]
Do people stop at RRFBs and
[1:01:22]
what are the actual speeds on
[1:01:25]
roads with RFBs, not just the
[1:01:29]
posted speeds.
[1:01:31]
Do LPIs provide enough
[1:01:33]
protection, or do we need
[1:01:35]
pedestrian scrambles or no
[1:01:37]
turns when the walk button is
[1:01:39]
activated because the 3 seconds
[1:01:41]
that I get with the lpi gets me
[1:01:42]
right in the middle of the
[1:01:43]
intersection where they can hit
[1:01:46]
me from all directions.
[1:01:48]
Do flashing yellow light
[1:01:50]
signals help or only confuse
[1:01:51]
drivers.
[1:01:51]
There
[1:01:53]
s a lot of work to be
[1:01:55]
done. We have a plan with the
[1:01:57]
csap. We have the modal
[1:01:59]
alternatives project. I hope we
[1:02:02]
can be a little more methodical
[1:02:04]
and less arbitrary in our
[1:02:06]
approach. And lastly, I request
[1:02:08]
the next traffic engineer that
[1:02:10]
we hire, have it be someone who.
[1:02:12]
Knows about active
[1:02:14]
transportation and rides a bike.
[1:02:25]
Thank you.
[1:02:28]
m Connie Leslie and I live at
[1:02:30]
1892 Forestdale Drive, and I
[1:02:32]
here in reference to the
[1:02:35]
speeding cars on South Willow
[1:02:38]
Spring Road from Cyril Avenue
[1:02:40]
down to Encinitas Boulevard. I
[1:02:42]
do want to commend the
[1:02:42]
sheriff
[1:02:44]
s office. They did an
[1:02:46]
enormous effort to track
[1:02:48]
speeding cars last spring, and
[1:02:49]
there were a lot of people who
[1:02:51]
were very unhappy about the
[1:02:53]
tickets that they received. I
[1:02:55]
even have a sticker on my
[1:02:57]
Be on my speed dial that tells
[1:02:58]
me reminds me to drop down to
[1:03:00]
20 miles an hour, but people
[1:03:01]
forget.
[1:03:04]
And, um,
[1:03:06]
And I did speak with two of the
[1:03:08]
officers who were on the corner
[1:03:10]
of Orwell Avenue and Willow
[1:03:11]
Spring where they had set up
[1:03:13]
their stops, and I asked them,
[1:03:16]
why were they set up on Orwell,
[1:03:19]
because that was a flat surface
[1:03:20]
and cars coming in could
[1:03:22]
actually see the police
[1:03:23]
officers on the corner of the
[1:03:24]
road, and I said, the real
[1:03:27]
problem is over on Fairleigh
[1:03:30]
Avenue and down on Valleydale
[1:03:32]
Drive, where the road curves
[1:03:34]
and cars are speeding up, and
[1:03:34]
cars are.
[1:03:36]
Speeding going down, and the
[1:03:38]
officer said it was too
[1:03:40]
dangerous to set up a stop
[1:03:43]
there, so I think that speaks
[1:03:45]
for itself, um, so I
[1:03:46]
m here,
[1:03:48]
and, and I know the problem is
[1:03:50]
just going to get a lot worse
[1:03:52]
once the Goodson project goes
[1:03:54]
online, so, and that MAY be as
[1:03:56]
many as 300 more cars. So, uh,
[1:04:00]
I would like to see, and I know
[1:04:01]
that the emergency department
[1:04:04]
does not want speed tables or
[1:04:05]
speed bumps.
[1:04:05]
Uh,
[1:04:10]
They make over 200.
[1:04:11]
Uh drive-throughs every year
[1:04:13]
through that road, uh, many of
[1:04:15]
them come to my community
[1:04:15]
because we
[1:04:16]
re an elderly
[1:04:16]
community, so I don
[1:04:17]
t want them
[1:04:20]
to stop coming, but um, there
[1:04:22]
are other ways to deal with
[1:04:24]
this, and I would even consider
[1:04:27]
stop signs at Forestdale and at
[1:04:28]
Valleydale, I
[1:04:30]
d consider, uh,
[1:04:31]
speed tables, just anything
[1:04:33]
temporary for a while, and then
[1:04:34]
there
[1:04:35]
s just not enough signage,
[1:04:36]
they, there
[1:04:37]
s a sign saying 20
[1:04:39]
miles an hour when you
[1:04:40]
Turn on from Encinitas
[1:04:42]
Boulevard. And then there
[1:04:44]
another sign very close to 0,
[1:04:46]
but once you see that sign, you
[1:04:47]
forget, or maybe you don
[1:04:47]
t even
[1:04:49]
see it, and they just plow
[1:04:51]
right through, so, uh, I would
[1:04:54]
also like to see something with
[1:04:57]
a very large 20 mile an hour
[1:04:59]
painted on the hillside, coming
[1:05:00]
up that hill and going down
[1:05:02]
that hill, so people understand
[1:05:10]
that. So, thank you.
[1:05:12]
Good evening.
[1:05:14]
City council members. My name
[1:05:15]
is Dennis Caden in District one.
[1:05:19]
I want to, uh, take the time to
[1:05:21]
praise Encinitas here. I did
[1:05:23]
some comparisons on Hoboken, uh,
[1:05:24]
we already heard it
[1:05:26]
s a 1.3
[1:05:27]
square miles we
[1:05:28]
re 19.9 square
[1:05:30]
miles. Uh, Hoboken is called
[1:05:34]
the mile square City, um, they
[1:05:37]
have 28,000 units housing units
[1:05:40]
we have basically 24,000 of the
[1:05:43]
28,000. I found it interesting
[1:05:44]
they have less than 4.
[1:05:46]
400 single family.
[1:05:49]
Detached homes, so we have.
[1:05:51]
Just the opposite and we got
[1:05:53]
lots of neighborhoods with
[1:05:54]
people driving through and
[1:05:55]
stuff and that
[1:05:56]
s what makes it
[1:05:59]
such a special place, um, the
[1:06:01]
population per square mile is
[1:06:03]
45,000.
[1:06:03]
It
[1:06:04]
s the dense, it
[1:06:05]
s the most
[1:06:07]
densely, it
[1:06:09]
s the 4 densely
[1:06:14]
populated city in America where
[1:06:17]
3100 square miles, uh, persons
[1:06:20]
per household 2.02 versus r
[1:06:23]
2.54 and I noticed they have
[1:06:26]
persons over 65, we have almost
[1:06:28]
20% of our population loves
[1:06:29]
living here so much that they
[1:06:29]
don
[1:06:32]
t need to get out of a big
[1:06:34]
city and the number of streets.
[1:06:39]
Streets is 48 versus our 956.
[1:06:39]
That
[1:06:40]
s a lot of streets to try
[1:06:42]
to prevent, um, accidents and
[1:06:44]
things and I do believe most of
[1:06:45]
the accidents that we
[1:06:45]
ve had
[1:06:47]
right now is egregious as they
[1:06:49]
are, they were driver neglect
[1:06:51]
and, and that makes it even
[1:06:54]
worse.
[1:06:54]
We
[1:06:56]
re doing plenty like Vision
[1:06:57]
Zero here and I
[1:06:58]
m proud of what
[1:06:59]
the council has done. We have
[1:07:01]
something in Encinitas Hoboken
[1:07:03]
will never have.
[1:07:05]
On our circulation element and
[1:07:06]
John Eldon and I worked on it
[1:07:08]
when we first incorporated. We
[1:07:10]
have trails.
[1:07:11]
We have trails that have never
[1:07:13]
been prioritized on our
[1:07:15]
circulation element every time
[1:07:17]
we have a high density housing
[1:07:18]
element that there
[1:07:18]
s a trail to
[1:07:19]
go through. The trail gets
[1:07:20]
ignored.
[1:07:21]
And I think it
[1:07:23]
s time maybe we
[1:07:25]
could utilize the trails to get
[1:07:28]
bicycles off the main arterials
[1:07:28]
because they
[1:07:29]
re all gonna go to
[1:07:30]
the same place. Everybody wants
[1:07:33]
to get to the beach, so could
[1:07:35]
we please look into that.
[1:07:37]
Thank you very much. I love our
[1:07:38]
trails. I love our city. Thank
[1:07:43]
you.
[1:07:46]
Next 3 speakers, Karen Kan,
[1:07:47]
followed by Fabian Gannell, and
[1:08:03]
then Laura Grimmer.
[1:08:03]
Hi, I
[1:08:04]
m Karen Caden. I
[1:08:04]
m in
[1:08:06]
district one.
[1:08:11]
m the better half of Dennis I
[1:08:13]
wanna thank you guys for the
[1:08:14]
paving Lucchetti Boulevard. I
[1:08:17]
on there at least 6 times a day.
[1:08:21]
I also, um, and help improve
[1:08:23]
the uh Encinitas safe walk to
[1:08:27]
Capri for um.
[1:08:29]
From uh uh Urania uh and
[1:08:31]
throughout Carter Street, an
[1:08:32]
area to protect our children
[1:08:34]
from windy roads, and it has
[1:08:35]
been working.
[1:08:36]
And I know you guys are gonna
[1:08:38]
be working on that too in your
[1:08:40]
program. I wanna thank you,
[1:08:41]
council for time, having a
[1:08:43]
special meeting today.
[1:08:45]
I also thank the sheriff
[1:08:46]
department. I was thinking
[1:08:49]
about what other people were
[1:08:51]
saying regards to um problems
[1:08:52]
in their neighborhood and other
[1:08:53]
places they
[1:08:54]
ve seen.
[1:08:56]
I think, you know, more
[1:08:58]
notification of traffic risk,
[1:08:59]
you know, to the sheriff
[1:09:01]
department or maybe they can
[1:09:03]
have another department to uh
[1:09:04]
pick up what problems are in
[1:09:06]
the city of Encinitas that can
[1:09:08]
refer to the tra the uh
[1:09:10]
sheriffs. I wanna share. I was
[1:09:13]
standing at a stop sign near
[1:09:15]
Capri School and a lot of
[1:09:16]
people going through the step
[1:09:17]
sign, and then one day a
[1:09:19]
sheriff showed up and stood
[1:09:21]
next to me, and every time they
[1:09:23]
saw the sheriff, they slammed
[1:09:24]
on.
[1:09:26]
The brakes, so I was thinking
[1:09:29]
about maybe having a cardboard
[1:09:32]
sheriff and staying there with
[1:09:34]
it. Ok, so, um.
[1:09:37]
As, as a community we should
[1:09:39]
show support.
[1:09:41]
Our council and city staff on
[1:09:45]
safe choices. I res I totally
[1:09:46]
respect the city
[1:09:48]
s framework of
[1:09:49]
the five e
[1:09:52]
s engineering, my My
[1:09:53]
favorite is education,
[1:09:56]
enforcement.
[1:09:58]
Engagement and evaluation
[1:09:59]
informed the sheriffs were, you
[1:10:01]
know, better results. I wanna
[1:10:03]
thanks for adding safer
[1:10:04]
improvements for our school
[1:10:07]
zones, more crossing guards,
[1:10:10]
safe rail crossings, improved
[1:10:12]
visibility for pedestrian
[1:10:14]
crossing and lowering speed
[1:10:16]
limits near schools. I want to
[1:10:17]
thank you so kindly for all
[1:10:27]
your work.
[1:10:29]
Last year at this time, Council
[1:10:30]
member Lyons proposed a
[1:10:32]
resolution.
[1:10:33]
The operative part was so
[1:10:34]
simple.
[1:10:36]
That I can read it out.
[1:10:38]
Quote, and it was a resolved
[1:10:40]
that the city of Encinitas
[1:10:42]
acknowledges long-standing
[1:10:43]
community support for traffic
[1:10:45]
calming, ratifies continued
[1:10:46]
city support for traffic
[1:10:48]
calming in Encinitas and will
[1:10:49]
continue to strive to improve
[1:10:51]
and support traffic calming and
[1:10:53]
traffic calming policies in
[1:10:54]
Encinitas.
[1:10:55]
She moved to approve.
[1:10:56]
And it didn
[1:10:57]
t even get a vote.
[1:10:59]
Not one of the rest of you
[1:11:01]
would second the motion.
[1:11:04]
One of you was just vehemently
[1:11:06]
opposed. You chose to interpret
[1:11:07]
this general pro-calming
[1:11:09]
language as an attack on one or
[1:11:11]
more of your pet projects. One
[1:11:12]
of you tried to have it both
[1:11:13]
ways. You said you wouldn
[1:11:14]
oppose the motion. You didn
[1:11:16]
support it either.
[1:11:17]
One of you had nothing to say
[1:11:20]
on the issue at all. Pretty
[1:11:21]
remarkable considering a child
[1:11:22]
had just died.
[1:11:24]
One of you at least engaged
[1:11:27]
constructively with the problem.
[1:11:28]
Council member Schaeffer
[1:11:30]
proposed a citywide traffic
[1:11:32]
study to identify specific
[1:11:33]
problems.
[1:11:35]
He tried to move agendaizing it
[1:11:37]
for a future meeting. The chair
[1:11:39]
asked that he hold the motion,
[1:11:40]
but then the council never got
[1:11:42]
back to it after the original
[1:11:44]
motion failed.
[1:11:47]
I looked for any other mention
[1:11:48]
of COUNCILMAN Schaeffer
[1:11:49]
s ideas
[1:11:51]
at Futures meeting, and I found
[1:11:53]
a statement a few weeks later
[1:11:55]
that he was discussing it with
[1:11:57]
staff, but nothing else. No
[1:11:59]
such study is listed in
[1:11:59]
tonight
[1:12:01]
s staff report.
[1:12:03]
Everyone talks about safety,
[1:12:06]
especially after a tragedy, but
[1:12:08]
actions matter more than words.
[1:12:10]
When you put safety projects
[1:12:12]
with planned road diets on your
[1:12:13]
list of accomplishments, but
[1:12:15]
the record shows you took out
[1:12:16]
the road diets when you
[1:12:17]
approved them.
[1:12:18]
Your actions don
[1:12:18]
t match your
[1:12:19]
words.
[1:12:20]
When there
[1:12:21]
s a good idea for a
[1:12:22]
traffic study, but it can
[1:12:25]
even get agenda.
[1:12:26]
Your actions don
[1:12:27]
t match your
[1:12:29]
words. And when you task the
[1:12:32]
mtsc with reporting on ways to
[1:12:34]
eliminate or minimize traffic
[1:12:36]
deaths, unquote. And the mtsc
[1:12:38]
year-end report includes no
[1:12:40]
specific action under that work
[1:12:41]
item, and then they take it out
[1:12:42]
of the next year
[1:12:44]
s.
[1:12:46]
Work items. Your actions aren
[1:12:48]
matching your words.
[1:12:48]
It
[1:12:51]
s past time for real action
[1:12:53]
to slow traffic and actually
[1:12:54]
improve safety. We
[1:12:54]
re spending
[1:12:57]
$15 million a year or $15
[1:12:58]
million over the past 3 years
[1:13:01]
to repave roads. Great. Repaved
[1:13:03]
roads do not actually slow
[1:13:04]
traffic. If anything to the
[1:13:05]
contrary.
[1:13:07]
How about things that actually
[1:13:09]
slow traffic and actually
[1:13:10]
improve safety. I hope we hear
[1:13:11]
something about that tonight.
[1:13:22]
Thank you.
[1:13:24]
Good evening, Mayor Ehler, City
[1:13:26]
Council.
[1:13:27]
My name is Laura Grimmer. I
[1:13:28]
m a
[1:13:30]
founding member of Safe Streets
[1:13:32]
Encinitas, uh, first, a big
[1:13:33]
thank you to the sheriff
[1:13:35]
department, your presence in
[1:13:37]
our community is impactful and
[1:13:37]
based on the data you
[1:13:38]
ve shared,
[1:13:39]
it appears that things are
[1:13:41]
moving in the right direction.
[1:13:42]
We recognize the enormous
[1:13:43]
responsibility you
[1:13:44]
re carrying
[1:13:45]
right now.
[1:13:45]
And we
[1:13:46]
re encouraged that the
[1:13:48]
council will be discussing red
[1:13:50]
light cameras on SEPTEMBER 9th.
[1:13:52]
Additional tools can provide
[1:13:53]
much-needed support and
[1:13:55]
importantly, help keep our
[1:13:56]
deputies safer.
[1:13:58]
In the meantime, thank you for
[1:14:00]
continuing this difficult work.
[1:14:01]
And another big thank you to
[1:14:03]
staff. Your report was
[1:14:05]
informative, and we appreciate
[1:14:06]
the transparency in both the
[1:14:08]
process and execution.
[1:14:11]
We would love to ask to see
[1:14:13]
more regularly more regular
[1:14:15]
reports to continue to increase
[1:14:17]
transparency and accountability.
[1:14:18]
We hear what you
[1:14:18]
re saying and
[1:14:19]
we appreciate the progress that
[1:14:20]
is being made.
[1:14:22]
And we ask that you all hear us
[1:14:23]
too.
[1:14:25]
We know the city has projects
[1:14:26]
underway, but we need to ask an
[1:14:28]
important question.
[1:14:30]
Are these projects addressing
[1:14:31]
the places and conditions where
[1:14:34]
fatalities are occurring.
[1:14:36]
Repaving a road is important
[1:14:37]
maintenance, but by itself is
[1:14:39]
not a safety strategy.
[1:14:41]
If we have an opportunity to
[1:14:43]
improve safety as part of a
[1:14:45]
project, we should take it.
[1:14:47]
Every project that moves
[1:14:48]
forward without a meaningful
[1:14:50]
safety review.
[1:14:51]
Maybe a missed opportunity to
[1:14:53]
prevent the next serious crash
[1:14:55]
or the next fatality.
[1:14:57]
We all know the number of
[1:14:59]
vehicles on our roads is
[1:15:01]
continuing to grow rapidly.
[1:15:03]
We need to get ahead of that
[1:15:04]
growth. We need to identify
[1:15:05]
risks.
[1:15:09]
And act on them before another
[1:15:10]
family experiences the
[1:15:13]
unimaginable loss of a loved
[1:15:14]
one.
[1:15:16]
Or before another child is
[1:15:17]
involved in a life changing
[1:15:20]
crash.
[1:15:20]
We
[1:15:22]
ve heard calls to return
[1:15:24]
teaching kids to stop, look and
[1:15:24]
listen.
[1:15:26]
Well,
[1:15:28]
I ask you, let
[1:15:29]
s stop blaming
[1:15:30]
the kids. Let
[1:15:31]
s look at the
[1:15:33]
infrastructure, look at the
[1:15:34]
intersections, look at the
[1:15:35]
conditions that MAY be
[1:15:37]
contributing to these crashes.
[1:15:38]
And most importantly, and I
[1:15:40]
thank you for tonight, Listen
[1:15:41]
to the people who live here and
[1:15:45]
use these roads every day.
[1:15:45]
We don
[1:15:46]
t have to agree on
[1:15:48]
everything, but we do need to
[1:15:50]
respect one another and work
[1:15:51]
together to do what is right
[1:15:53]
for our city.
[1:15:54]
The solutions we develop need
[1:15:56]
to be effective across all
[1:15:58]
viewpoints. They need to be
[1:16:00]
maintained across changes in
[1:16:01]
city leadership, and ultimately
[1:16:03]
needs to make, make our streets
[1:16:04]
safer for everyone. Um, I
[1:16:07]
running out of time, so I will
[1:16:08]
just say, um, as we
[1:16:08]
ve heard,
[1:16:10]
our kids are being struck and
[1:16:12]
killed in crosswalks.
[1:16:13]
This is ucceptable. We
[1:16:13]
re
[1:16:15]
asking, can the city
[1:16:16]
temporarily shift some
[1:16:18]
priorities and resources
[1:16:19]
towards the areas where the
[1:16:21]
greatest safety concerns exist.
[1:16:29]
Thank you.
[1:16:31]
Final Four speakers, Ellen Burr,
[1:16:33]
followed by Dave Dean, then
[1:16:34]
Sheila Cameron, and then
[1:16:50]
Caitlin Despain.
[1:16:52]
That was about the same
[1:16:53]
distance as a crosswalk that I
[1:16:55]
just walked down here.
[1:16:56]
I don
[1:16:59]
t use a cane yet or a
[1:17:01]
walker yet, but that
[1:17:01]
s pretty
[1:17:03]
fast.
[1:17:06]
And I just wanna make sure that
[1:17:09]
we are double checking that.
[1:17:09]
I don
[1:17:10]
t know whether it
[1:17:13]
pedestrian leading intervals or
[1:17:15]
leading pedestrian intervals
[1:17:17]
should be easy to do to make
[1:17:22]
sure that they are as long as
[1:17:23]
possible because.
[1:17:26]
People, 40% of our city
[1:17:28]
probably is under the 5 or
[1:17:30]
under or over the age of 60
[1:17:33]
plus a number who are
[1:17:34]
handicapped, not everybody
[1:17:35]
rides a bike, Judy, I wish I
[1:17:37]
could.
[1:17:40]
Uh, so I think we need to focus
[1:17:42]
more on pedestrians.
[1:17:44]
And make sure that the
[1:17:47]
crosswalks and the bike lanes
[1:17:49]
are safe, so that means if it
[1:17:51]
gonna be paved next week, don
[1:17:54]
do it now, but there shouldn
[1:17:58]
be any cracks, any divots, any
[1:18:00]
potholes, anything that a bike
[1:18:03]
tire is gonna hit or an old
[1:18:06]
person or a young person is
[1:18:08]
gonna stumble over just we
[1:18:09]
could do some really easy
[1:18:11]
things I think that might make
[1:18:12]
a difference.
[1:18:13]
And I don
[1:18:13]
t want to be
[1:18:15]
crucified again for stop look
[1:18:18]
and listen, but I do think we
[1:18:22]
need to emphasize.
[1:18:24]
Awareness on every level and uh
[1:18:27]
i can write a check for.
[1:18:29]
Something to be produced if you
[1:18:30]
want me to.
[1:18:31]
Um,
[1:18:32]
Yeah, that
[1:18:33]
s it thanks.
[1:18:41]
Thank you.
[1:18:43]
Council, Mayor, staff, good
[1:18:45]
evening, Dave Dean. First, I
[1:18:49]
like to start off by thanking
[1:18:52]
the staff last Wednesday when I
[1:18:53]
spoke at City council about a
[1:18:56]
dangerous sign on b and 3rd.
[1:18:56]
By 9 o
[1:18:57]
clock the next morning,
[1:18:59]
it was removed in the crosswalk
[1:19:01]
was safe, so thank you for
[1:19:02]
listening. Thank you for
[1:19:04]
responding.
[1:19:05]
Next thing I
[1:19:06]
d like to suggest
[1:19:09]
is a safety sign, um, down on
[1:19:11]
Coast Highway, similar to one
[1:19:14]
they have in Del Mar, saying
[1:19:16]
bicycle enforcement zone.
[1:19:17]
In the last two days I
[1:19:18]
ve
[1:19:20]
watched over 10 bicyclists
[1:19:21]
going down Coast Highway
[1:19:23]
running red lights.
[1:19:25]
Exceptionally dangerous. 2 days
[1:19:27]
in a row, multiple red lights
[1:19:28]
run.
[1:19:31]
Final suggestion.
[1:19:31]
Let
[1:19:34]
s up our game and go with
[1:19:36]
making Encinitas the safest
[1:19:39]
city in America.
[1:19:41]
Speed kills, lower the speed
[1:19:42]
limit. I
[1:19:43]
m in favor of a
[1:19:46]
maximum speed limit of 25 miles
[1:19:48]
an hour in the entire city.
[1:19:50]
If it takes 10 minutes longer
[1:19:52]
to get across the city and
[1:19:54]
saves a life, who
[1:19:55]
s 10 minutes
[1:19:56]
is more important than saving a
[1:19:58]
life.
[1:19:58]
Let
[1:19:59]
s make it safe. Let
[1:20:00]
s lower
[1:20:13]
the speed limits. Thank you.
[1:20:15]
Good evening, Mayor and council,
[1:20:18]
Sheila Cameron.
[1:20:20]
A few years years ago, a
[1:20:22]
national park at a national
[1:20:25]
park, 3 young people died after
[1:20:26]
having been swept over a
[1:20:28]
waterfall.
[1:20:30]
Although plenty of signs were
[1:20:31]
already posted nearby. Don
[1:20:31]
t go
[1:20:33]
near the water, etc. They went
[1:20:35]
in anyway.
[1:20:37]
When the ranger was interviewed
[1:20:39]
by a concerned citizens, his
[1:20:40]
reply.
[1:20:41]
One thing I
[1:20:42]
ve learned after
[1:20:44]
over 30 years here in the park
[1:20:47]
is that you can
[1:20:48]
t protect
[1:20:50]
people from themselves.
[1:20:53]
We can believe and demand.
[1:20:55]
The other fixed things for us.
[1:20:57]
The other in this case being
[1:20:59]
our city government, however,
[1:21:01]
maybe what we should be doing
[1:21:03]
is standing in front of the
[1:21:04]
mirror and asking ourselves
[1:21:06]
some questions.
[1:21:08]
Do we sometimes tend to drive
[1:21:10]
too fast, drive 10 to 20 miles
[1:21:12]
or more over the speed limit.
[1:21:14]
Have you pulled out from a
[1:21:16]
right-hand turn when we see
[1:21:18]
cars coming, but pull out
[1:21:19]
anyway.
[1:21:22]
Do we approach a yellow traffic
[1:21:24]
light and instead of slowing to
[1:21:27]
a stop, gun the gas and push
[1:21:28]
right through. Just saw that
[1:21:30]
two days ago.
[1:21:34]
Even when the light is red
[1:21:36]
This city government cannot
[1:21:38]
protect us from ourselves. It
[1:21:41]
is not their responsibility. We
[1:21:43]
are humans and individuals.
[1:21:43]
We
[1:21:44]
ve been given an abundance
[1:21:46]
of rules and physical
[1:21:48]
considerations to protect our
[1:21:49]
health and safety and the
[1:21:51]
safety of others when we
[1:21:51]
re
[1:21:54]
driving. What happens when we
[1:21:57]
get into these 2000 or 3000
[1:22:00]
pound automobiles are cocoons.
[1:22:01]
Their killing machines, while
[1:22:04]
in our cars, we have a sense of
[1:22:07]
entitlement only for ourselves.
[1:22:09]
Where and how did we learn to
[1:22:11]
drive? Was something missing in
[1:22:14]
our training, a moral compass
[1:22:16]
perhaps. Do we pass on bad
[1:22:18]
habits and indifference for
[1:22:20]
safety and rules of the road to
[1:22:21]
our children, so now we
[1:22:22]
re our
[1:22:24]
children. Our children are on
[1:22:26]
motorbikes and e-bikes, a
[1:22:28]
convenience for parents and
[1:22:31]
other concern and fearful
[1:22:32]
distraction from motorists
[1:22:34]
children are young, too
[1:22:36]
precious, too uninformed.
[1:22:39]
Uh, are the stats for accidents,
[1:22:41]
a generational phenomenon. They
[1:22:42]
are.
[1:22:43]
And I
[1:22:44]
ve put here, I
[1:22:45]
ve had 3
[1:22:47]
accidents the last 6 years, not
[1:22:52]
my fault, 1825, 26 year olds,
[1:22:53]
and the last guy said to me,
[1:22:54]
Well, I saw you coming, but I
[1:22:56]
pulled out because I thought I
[1:22:57]
had more time, so I
[1:22:58]
m asking
[1:23:00]
you time the culprit? Are we
[1:23:03]
too much in a hurry, too
[1:23:04]
stressed, running late, trying
[1:23:07]
to do too much. If we think and
[1:23:10]
slow down, can we save us from
[1:23:11]
ourselves. That
[1:23:12]
s a start.
[1:23:12]
Thank you.
[1:23:22]
Thank you.
[1:23:23]
Good evening. Uh, my name is
[1:23:27]
Caitlin De Spain. I am a local
[1:23:29]
parent to an elementary and
[1:23:30]
middle school student, and we
[1:23:32]
bought a home here 12 years ago,
[1:23:33]
strictly in the neighborhood
[1:23:35]
that we knew we could walk our
[1:23:37]
kids to, and I still enjoy
[1:23:38]
doing that every day.
[1:23:40]
Um,
[1:23:43]
One of the things that concerns
[1:23:44]
me and why I
[1:23:45]
ve gotten the
[1:23:47]
courage to speak here tonight
[1:23:47]
is that I
[1:23:48]
m really concerned
[1:23:49]
about the speed of our drivers
[1:23:51]
in the community throughout. I
[1:23:53]
travel up and down El Camino
[1:23:55]
Real, multiple times a day,
[1:23:57]
driving my kids around to their
[1:23:58]
activities. And if I
[1:23:59]
m driving,
[1:24:01]
the posted 30, 35 mile per hour
[1:24:04]
speed limit. Cars are whizzing
[1:24:05]
around me, frustrated at me
[1:24:06]
that I
[1:24:07]
m going so slow.
[1:24:09]
So
[1:24:09]
I don
[1:24:12]
t think that
[1:24:16]
Posting a lower speed limit.
[1:24:16]
Will change drivers
[1:24:17]
behavior.
[1:24:19]
I think we need to hear more as
[1:24:21]
a community, what the plans are
[1:24:22]
to
[1:24:24]
Do more than that.
[1:24:27]
I do think that.
[1:24:31]
We need to know more about how
[1:24:33]
you are going to save our
[1:24:33]
children
[1:24:34]
s lives and make the
[1:24:37]
city safe for them.
[1:24:39]
And I need to know, how can we
[1:24:41]
make not losing another life a
[1:24:42]
top priority here.
[1:24:46]
Thank you for your time.
[1:24:47]
That concludes speakers on this
[1:24:49]
item.
[1:24:50]
ok, we
[1:24:52]
ve got, uh, 30 minutes
[1:24:53]
left, so I just keep that in
[1:24:54]
mind. We got 5 of us to get in
[1:24:57]
here and the discussion. I, I,
[1:24:59]
uh, punched in first, um.
[1:25:00]
I actually heard a lot of new
[1:25:02]
ideas, good ideas, maybe not
[1:25:03]
new ideas, but, uh, heard them
[1:25:04]
again, I guess is the best way
[1:25:07]
to put it, uh.
[1:25:09]
Is there one thing I always
[1:25:10]
like to ask the uh rhetorical
[1:25:12]
question. Is there one thing we
[1:25:14]
can do that can perfectly fix
[1:25:15]
all the roads? No, it, it
[1:25:17]
doing a lot of things is what
[1:25:18]
we have to do, and I think
[1:25:18]
that
[1:25:21]
s what we have been doing,
[1:25:23]
um, do roadway modifications
[1:25:25]
make roads perfectly safe.
[1:25:27]
Unfortunately, no. It all comes
[1:25:28]
back to driver behavior as a
[1:25:31]
component here.
[1:25:32]
Roadway construction is
[1:25:34]
important or, or, uh, design is
[1:25:36]
important, but we ultimately
[1:25:38]
have to change all of our
[1:25:40]
driver behaviors, ours, we all
[1:25:41]
have to drive at the speed
[1:25:43]
limit or under. I find myself
[1:25:45]
driving 5 miles under now.
[1:25:45]
And I
[1:25:46]
m very conscious about it
[1:25:48]
and I hope more people will do
[1:25:49]
that and we actually have seen
[1:25:51]
the data and I, I won
[1:25:51]
t go
[1:25:53]
recap that, so.
[1:25:56]
Um, if you could bring up the
[1:25:57]
slide about how much money
[1:25:57]
we
[1:26:00]
ve spent on
[1:26:03]
On enforcement versus roadway.
[1:26:05]
Because if you go look at some
[1:26:06]
of the, the bikeway
[1:26:06]
improvements we
[1:26:08]
ve done $4
[1:26:09]
million a mile, roughly.
[1:26:10]
That
[1:26:10]
s what it
[1:26:11]
s costing. Yeah,
[1:26:12]
look at the left there.
[1:26:15]
By the way, I went back and
[1:26:16]
checked before we put it in the
[1:26:17]
budget. I don
[1:26:18]
t know, what, 2
[1:26:20]
years ago, uh, to add the two
[1:26:21]
deputies, I went back and
[1:26:24]
looked 15 years, we had not
[1:26:26]
added a single traffic deputy.
[1:26:28]
15 years and it MAY have gone
[1:26:29]
back further. I just, I think I
[1:26:31]
ran out of data.
[1:26:32]
So we were flat. And so we
[1:26:35]
added the two.
[1:26:36]
I quite frankly, out of what
[1:26:39]
been happening and still not
[1:26:40]
seeing enough reduction in
[1:26:41]
speed even though we
[1:26:41]
ve seen
[1:26:42]
some. I
[1:26:42]
m gonna propose in the
[1:26:44]
next budget that we add 2 more.
[1:26:46]
And, and I think we need to,
[1:26:47]
and I think we need to all
[1:26:49]
consider that and we MAY even
[1:26:50]
do that before the next budget
[1:26:53]
and do it in mid-year. So, uh,
[1:26:53]
but it
[1:26:53]
s it
[1:26:54]
s important, you
[1:26:55]
know, it takes, it takes a
[1:26:56]
while to get them on board, but
[1:26:58]
you can see the cost. It, it
[1:26:58]
s,
[1:27:00]
uh, the first year is just
[1:27:00]
under a million, that
[1:27:01]
s because
[1:27:03]
you gotta get a car for each
[1:27:04]
one, each one of them. And then
[1:27:07]
it, it goes down to about
[1:27:10]
700,000 a year ongoing for 2,
[1:27:12]
and why 2 that covers, uh, both
[1:27:13]
shifts, right?
[1:27:15]
Um, quick question for, uh,
[1:27:18]
Captain Watts, how many traffic
[1:27:19]
deputies do we have as a whole?
[1:27:21]
What, what is adding to is what
[1:27:22]
kind of percentage increase in
[1:27:25]
our enforcement, so currently,
[1:27:28]
um, we staff 4 motors, so 4 on
[1:27:30]
the motorcycles, and then after
[1:27:32]
adding those two dui cars,
[1:27:34]
which also do enforcement,
[1:27:35]
speed enforcement, and other
[1:27:38]
enforcement. Um, we are at 7
[1:27:39]
cars, so it
[1:27:40]
s a significant
[1:27:42]
increase and 2 more would be a
[1:27:43]
very significant. So, so that,
[1:27:43]
that.
[1:27:43]
That
[1:27:44]
s one proposal. I just
[1:27:45]
wanna make sure we
[1:27:45]
re, we
[1:27:46]
re
[1:27:48]
looking at how much money we
[1:27:50]
have spent on roadway safety
[1:27:51]
versus what we
[1:27:52]
re spending on
[1:27:53]
additional traffic deputies,
[1:27:54]
school crossing guards, I think
[1:27:56]
it was a really good use of
[1:27:58]
money too. And, and bicycle
[1:27:59]
safety.
[1:28:01]
They, they all pale in
[1:28:03]
comparison to what we spent on
[1:28:04]
infrastructure, but
[1:28:05]
infrastructure will protect
[1:28:07]
that half mile, that quarter
[1:28:09]
mile, that mile, whatever we do.
[1:28:10]
But even then we
[1:28:10]
ve had
[1:28:13]
accidents.
[1:28:16]
At Cardiff, uh, Cardiff, uh,
[1:28:19]
the, uh, cycle trail, the uh
[1:28:20]
what do you call it, bike trail.
[1:28:21]
Yeah, the, the, uh.
[1:28:22]
We
[1:28:23]
ve had accidents, deaths
[1:28:25]
there. We had another death on,
[1:28:27]
on, on 2020 on Lucadia
[1:28:29]
Boulevard at an improved
[1:28:30]
separated bike lane. They
[1:28:31]
re
[1:28:33]
not a panacea for perfect
[1:28:33]
safety. It
[1:28:34]
s all gonna come
[1:28:36]
down to driver behavior
[1:28:37]
ultimately. So we really need
[1:28:39]
to change that and I, every
[1:28:41]
time, every opportunity I have,
[1:28:42]
I call on everyone, slow down,
[1:28:43]
even if you
[1:28:44]
re going slightly
[1:28:45]
slower, and I, yes, I have
[1:28:46]
people behind me honking too,
[1:28:48]
and I, and, but
[1:28:50]
You know, we gotta do it.
[1:28:51]
So that that
[1:28:53]
s one point, um.
[1:28:54]
Second item that I would
[1:28:56]
propose to this council is I
[1:28:57]
wanna go back through the
[1:28:59]
history first.
[1:29:01]
Um, we adopted this council,
[1:29:04]
not this council, but a council
[1:29:06]
adopted Vision Zero back in
[1:29:09]
2019 or it was, it was proposed.
[1:29:13]
It had, we adopted it in 2021.
[1:29:16]
So we do have a vision zero
[1:29:18]
plan. It is there. Out of that
[1:29:20]
came the local roadway safety
[1:29:21]
plan, which was written in
[1:29:23]
FEBRUARY of 2022, and if you
[1:29:24]
haven
[1:29:25]
t read it, uh, I would
[1:29:26]
recommend it. It
[1:29:26]
s very good.
[1:29:27]
It
[1:29:27]
s very analytical. It
[1:29:28]
s a
[1:29:29]
day.
[1:29:30]
Data-driven document, and then
[1:29:35]
out of that came the uh the um.
[1:29:35]
What
[1:29:36]
s that now? Oh, the, uh,
[1:29:37]
um.
[1:29:40]
What is it? Csap. I can never
[1:29:42]
remember the uh, um.
[1:29:42]
What
[1:29:42]
s the, what
[1:29:45]
s the, uh,
[1:29:46]
comprehensive safety action
[1:29:48]
action plan, which is actually
[1:29:50]
less if you, you read it, it
[1:29:53]
actually less uh quantitative
[1:29:54]
and, and a little less data
[1:29:54]
analytics. It
[1:29:55]
s a little more
[1:29:56]
policy driven.
[1:29:58]
What I would propose is that we
[1:30:00]
bring that back in the not too
[1:30:02]
distant future and regenize it
[1:30:03]
because I think the only, only
[1:30:04]
person that was on council at
[1:30:07]
the time was, uh, uh, council
[1:30:08]
member lines. The rest of us
[1:30:10]
are, are new after this. And so
[1:30:13]
d like to have us regenize
[1:30:15]
and review those two, similar
[1:30:16]
to what we did in the case of
[1:30:18]
flooding when we brought back
[1:30:20]
the q3 report a couple of years
[1:30:20]
ago. It
[1:30:21]
s a chance for this
[1:30:23]
council to buy in and make
[1:30:24]
modifications to that very same
[1:30:26]
plan and then per potential.
[1:30:28]
Essentially direct updating it,
[1:30:31]
which I think is one of the,
[1:30:33]
one of the reoccurring themes I
[1:30:35]
hear is we want better data,
[1:30:36]
more appropriate data. Quite
[1:30:39]
frankly, I, I look at that and
[1:30:44]
both the csap and the lr lrsp
[1:30:46]
both basically look at
[1:30:48]
What problems or where most of
[1:30:50]
the crashes and fatalities and,
[1:30:51]
and serious injuries are coming
[1:30:52]
from. Guess what? They they
[1:30:52]
re
[1:30:54]
coming from speeding,
[1:30:55]
distracted driving, running
[1:30:57]
stop signs, running stoplights,
[1:30:58]
and drunken driving. That
[1:30:59]
s in
[1:31:00]
both of those reports if you go
[1:31:02]
back and read them tonight.
[1:31:04]
And and so I think we
[1:31:04]
ve done a
[1:31:07]
lot of the work. We just need
[1:31:09]
to maybe familiarize not only
[1:31:10]
ourselves but probably the
[1:31:12]
public. So, I, I would propose
[1:31:14]
that, uh, we agendize that at a
[1:31:16]
future meeting, hopefully
[1:31:17]
OCTOBER, maybe, you know, it
[1:31:18]
depends on where it
[1:31:19]
ll fit in,
[1:31:20]
but sooner better.
[1:31:22]
Uh,
[1:31:24]
And, and then, I, I think I
[1:31:26]
will, uh,
[1:31:28]
Yield at that point because, uh.
[1:31:32]
We had 11 last point.
[1:31:32]
Um, and I
[1:31:34]
m going to quote
[1:31:35]
Fabian Gunnell, because you
[1:31:37]
said actions matter more than
[1:31:39]
words. That is so true.
[1:31:41]
Uh, when When I went back and I
[1:31:43]
looked at the emergency
[1:31:45]
declaration and, you know, we
[1:31:47]
could declare an emergency.
[1:31:48]
What happened the last time I
[1:31:49]
was on the council when we
[1:31:51]
declared an emergency, and
[1:31:51]
quite frankly, I didn
[1:31:52]
t know
[1:31:54]
what it, it had expired. But I
[1:31:57]
learned that later.
[1:31:59]
All the response was, what
[1:32:01]
additional powers does the
[1:32:02]
council get from declaring an
[1:32:03]
emergency, and it
[1:32:04]
s really
[1:32:05]
almost none. What, what that
[1:32:07]
council did back then with me
[1:32:11]
on it, is we put up the uh the
[1:32:12]
flashing road signs, right,
[1:32:14]
with the messaging signs. We
[1:32:16]
printed a whole bunch of, of.
[1:32:18]
Science, uh, yard signs that
[1:32:20]
went out.
[1:32:22]
But everything else, all the,
[1:32:25]
the actions as, as Fabian would
[1:32:27]
call it, those all came out of
[1:32:28]
council action that
[1:32:29]
s long term
[1:32:30]
and that we
[1:32:31]
ve been working on
[1:32:32]
and building on, building on
[1:32:35]
the local road safety plan,
[1:32:36]
building on the csap building
[1:32:38]
on all the work that staff
[1:32:39]
been doing, building on the
[1:32:41]
work that that the sheriff
[1:32:43]
captain has done to increase
[1:32:45]
enforcement and change driver
[1:32:46]
behavior. So, um,
[1:32:46]
I don
[1:32:48]
t, I don
[1:32:49]
t know that
[1:32:51]
words and declarations are the
[1:32:52]
most important thing here
[1:32:53]
tonight, I think, as Fabian
[1:32:56]
said, actions.
[1:32:59]
Actions very particular actions.
[1:32:59]
Let
[1:33:00]
s, let
[1:33:00]
s continue building
[1:33:03]
better roads, safer roads where
[1:33:04]
appropriate.
[1:33:05]
Uh, let Let
[1:33:06]
s continue the
[1:33:06]
enforcement. Let
[1:33:09]
s add to the
[1:33:10]
enforcement and there were some
[1:33:12]
great ideas, the cutout of the
[1:33:14]
sheriff is kind of similar to
[1:33:15]
having the car, uh, an unmanned
[1:33:18]
car parked, uh, there too. And,
[1:33:19]
and by the way, I
[1:33:20]
ve seen that
[1:33:22]
and watched that and people jam
[1:33:23]
on their brakes at the stop
[1:33:24]
sign when they come up to a
[1:33:26]
corner and see a police car. So
[1:33:26]
I don
[1:33:27]
t know if we buy a bunch
[1:33:28]
of used cars, paint them black
[1:33:29]
and white, and put them out
[1:33:30]
there. But their ideas like
[1:33:32]
that, but
[1:33:34]
My bottom line here.
[1:33:35]
What we
[1:33:37]
re doing is not one
[1:33:38]
action, it
[1:33:40]
s a complete breadth
[1:33:41]
of actions. There are many, and
[1:33:42]
I think you heard tonight that
[1:33:43]
that
[1:33:43]
s what we
[1:33:44]
ve been doing.
[1:33:46]
We will continue to do, uh, as
[1:33:47]
the council changes over this
[1:33:49]
next year, I hope future
[1:33:50]
councils will continue that.
[1:33:51]
So with that, I
[1:33:52]
ll yield.
[1:33:53]
COUNCILMAN Schaffer.
[1:33:55]
Thank you, Mayor. Um.
[1:33:58]
Uh, I do believe that this is
[1:33:59]
obviously a very important to
[1:34:02]
all of, of Encinitas and when
[1:34:03]
we look at the different models,
[1:34:03]
and I
[1:34:04]
m just gonna go through
[1:34:04]
the list I
[1:34:05]
ve written kind of
[1:34:07]
in order. The RRFBs, I think
[1:34:07]
that they
[1:34:08]
re great. I think
[1:34:09]
that they need, uh, a lead time
[1:34:10]
for the driver, cause it
[1:34:11]
s a,
[1:34:12]
it
[1:34:12]
s, an, it
[1:34:13]
s an, a push and
[1:34:15]
activated immediately when you
[1:34:16]
activate it, uh, I think
[1:34:16]
there
[1:34:17]
s a false confidence that
[1:34:18]
sometimes where people feel
[1:34:20]
like they can walk like a
[1:34:21]
normal stoplight where they
[1:34:21]
re
[1:34:22]
all the cars have the yellow,
[1:34:23]
they have time to slow down,
[1:34:25]
and then a red to come to that
[1:34:26]
stop, um.
[1:34:27]
On a number of occasions I
[1:34:27]
ve
[1:34:29]
seen myself in Cardiff and also
[1:34:31]
in Lucadia. People push the
[1:34:32]
button and walk, and it
[1:34:32]
s a
[1:34:33]
false confidence and I, I don
[1:34:35]
want to keep creating a false
[1:34:36]
confidence. I want stuff that
[1:34:37]
actually works, so if there
[1:34:37]
s a
[1:34:39]
way to do that, I know that
[1:34:41]
ve talked about this before,
[1:34:43]
Ensenada in, in a, a country
[1:34:44]
that supposedly is, is lesser
[1:34:45]
than us, has a countdown on
[1:34:46]
their yellow lights, their,
[1:34:48]
their, uh, the yellow on the
[1:34:49]
light signal. I
[1:34:49]
m not sure
[1:34:49]
that
[1:34:50]
s something that we could
[1:34:52]
look into, but having a the one
[1:34:53]
time that you can know that the
[1:34:55]
timing of the light is when the
[1:34:56]
crosswalk is.
[1:34:57]
Counting down and you see the
[1:34:59]
light go yellow, you know.
[1:35:00]
How much more time there is,
[1:35:02]
and it gives you that that
[1:35:02]
confidence and now the driver
[1:35:04]
from a distance, especially
[1:35:05]
with the speeds of the vehicles.
[1:35:07]
The distance you can be from a
[1:35:08]
light, uh, let
[1:35:09]
s say South El
[1:35:10]
El Camino Real, uh, down there
[1:35:11]
by the college. You could be
[1:35:13]
going at the 55 miles an hour
[1:35:15]
and that light changes, you
[1:35:16]
know, whatever the, the timing
[1:35:18]
is, so you, you have cars
[1:35:20]
driving at a, a greater speed
[1:35:21]
at different times.
[1:35:24]
Uh, I think, um, Fabian brought
[1:35:26]
up, you know, the actions, I
[1:35:27]
would say the, the slow is
[1:35:28]
important. I think that
[1:35:29]
separate is better.
[1:35:32]
So I think that, you know, Judy
[1:35:34]
Berlein brought up the idea of
[1:35:35]
the intersections that you do
[1:35:36]
have to cross the major
[1:35:38]
thoroughfares, that would be a
[1:35:38]
help.
[1:35:42]
For us to have these separate
[1:35:43]
um mobility locations where
[1:35:45]
that are safer streets, but
[1:35:46]
when we do have the points of
[1:35:48]
crossing, uh, that are most
[1:35:50]
used that we can hammer those
[1:35:51]
locations for enforcement. I
[1:35:52]
think that
[1:35:53]
s a comprehensive
[1:35:55]
approach to start separating as
[1:35:57]
much as possible bikes and um
[1:35:59]
and cars. There are gonna be
[1:36:00]
locations where they are gonna,
[1:36:01]
you know, meet up, but in those
[1:36:03]
locations, we, we hammer down
[1:36:04]
on, uh, again, Melba, I
[1:36:05]
m sorry,
[1:36:07]
uh, Blo and Nia Boulevard. It
[1:36:08]
been talked about. There
[1:36:08]
schools there. It
[1:36:09]
s a lot of.
[1:36:10]
Uh, issues. I actually had a
[1:36:12]
good friend, uh, older brother,
[1:36:13]
uh, get hit there, uh,
[1:36:15]
thankfully lived, but was 8
[1:36:17]
months in the hospital, so, uh,
[1:36:17]
that
[1:36:18]
s back in the, the mid 80s,
[1:36:20]
so this is not something new to
[1:36:22]
the city, um.
[1:36:24]
I think the traffic blitzes
[1:36:25]
have been working. I think
[1:36:25]
we
[1:36:26]
re at the point with the
[1:36:28]
omnipresence that uh.
[1:36:30]
The sheriff, you know,
[1:36:31]
represents, and the reason that
[1:36:32]
the omnipresence works is that
[1:36:33]
you see a sheriff, you know, on
[1:36:34]
this street and two streets
[1:36:35]
over, you
[1:36:35]
re not gonna speed
[1:36:36]
because you just saw a sheriff,
[1:36:36]
you
[1:36:37]
re not sure you
[1:36:37]
re gonna
[1:36:39]
see one again, uh, around the
[1:36:41]
corner, so something along the
[1:36:42]
lines of maybe announcing the
[1:36:44]
traffic, traffic blizzards. I
[1:36:45]
think people have been hammered
[1:36:47]
enough now where if we announce
[1:36:48]
the traffic blicits, it might
[1:36:50]
actually get the, the value
[1:36:51]
that we want before people even
[1:36:52]
get on the road that morning.
[1:36:54]
They MAY leave earlier, so
[1:36:55]
whether you do it that morning
[1:36:56]
or not, just announcing it
[1:36:58]
might be enough to.
[1:36:59]
To change the behavior and
[1:36:59]
we
[1:37:00]
re doing it enough where the
[1:37:02]
person MAY or MAY not know that
[1:37:02]
it
[1:37:03]
s happening that morning,
[1:37:04]
and it might give them the
[1:37:05]
value to just, uh, and if you
[1:37:06]
put it the night before or
[1:37:07]
something like that and it
[1:37:08]
starts to change that behavior
[1:37:09]
a little bit over time, you
[1:37:11]
know, week after week, um, it
[1:37:13]
starts to, uh, make that change.
[1:37:18]
Uh, I do believe that the
[1:37:20]
static displays, the, the using
[1:37:21]
the volunteer, uh, sheriff,
[1:37:22]
like, you know, just seeing the
[1:37:24]
black and white, it, it
[1:37:26]
automatically uh creates, uh,
[1:37:26]
that change.
[1:37:29]
So in areas where it might be
[1:37:31]
uh too dangerous or, uh, I
[1:37:32]
forget who it was that spoke
[1:37:33]
about it. It was this young
[1:37:34]
lady over here. I don
[1:37:34]
t, Laura,
[1:37:35]
no, no, it wasn
[1:37:38]
t Laura.
[1:37:39]
Connie, yeah Yeah, Connie,
[1:37:41]
Connie, yeah. So the idea is to
[1:37:43]
have, uh, maybe to be able to
[1:37:45]
put some static displays out in
[1:37:46]
the locations where it just
[1:37:47]
slows down the traffic before
[1:37:48]
we have the problem again I
[1:37:50]
know we wanna hammer people, we
[1:37:51]
wanna give them tickets, but
[1:37:53]
really we want to save lives.
[1:37:54]
So if, if it
[1:37:54]
s only about
[1:37:55]
tickets, then we MAY not be
[1:37:56]
saving the lives if we don
[1:37:58]
just get the behavior to change
[1:38:00]
over the course of time. Um,
[1:38:01]
and then I have talked about
[1:38:03]
this over, uh, there are
[1:38:05]
Parts of the world, uh, it
[1:38:07]
got to spend some, some time in
[1:38:08]
Australia last year for a
[1:38:10]
number of weeks, and the fact
[1:38:12]
is they use roundabouts
[1:38:13]
significantly better than we do.
[1:38:15]
I think in this city because of
[1:38:17]
our, um, the freeway that goes
[1:38:19]
through town and the uh the uh
[1:38:20]
railroad track that goes
[1:38:21]
through town, it changes our
[1:38:23]
lights so significantly that we
[1:38:23]
can
[1:38:26]
t get to the consistent
[1:38:28]
mobility of our traffic and so
[1:38:29]
we want to have a better
[1:38:30]
lighting system. We want to
[1:38:31]
have a better, uh, flow for the
[1:38:32]
thoroughfare, so people don
[1:38:34]
leave the thoroughfare.
[1:38:36]
That go through residential
[1:38:38]
streets where kids and
[1:38:39]
bicyclists and pedestrians
[1:38:40]
should be using those roads on
[1:38:41]
a more regular basis. Again,
[1:38:42]
m not telling people I
[1:38:42]
m not
[1:38:44]
going into this boulevard, but
[1:38:46]
it, it does, it has its, it
[1:38:48]
natural issues. So if we were
[1:38:49]
gonna do roundabouts instead of
[1:38:50]
doing one here, one there, you
[1:38:53]
know, uh, a grant here or there,
[1:38:54]
uh, have a comprehensive plan
[1:38:55]
of what it would look like. Do
[1:38:57]
we need 20? Do we need 50? Do
[1:38:59]
we need, you know, 100 in this
[1:39:00]
town to actually make the
[1:39:02]
traffic flow at, at a rate that
[1:39:03]
actually gets us from point a
[1:39:05]
to point b.
[1:39:06]
Consistent with the
[1:39:08]
availability of less.
[1:39:12]
Uh, direct, blunt crashes,
[1:39:12]
which we
[1:39:14]
ve shown in videos
[1:39:16]
here before that the
[1:39:17]
roundabouts lower the
[1:39:19]
fatalities in, uh, because of
[1:39:20]
the angle of the accident. It
[1:39:21]
an off kilter. It
[1:39:23]
s not in the
[1:39:24]
direct t-bone or head-on
[1:39:25]
collision model. So if we
[1:39:25]
re
[1:39:26]
going to do something of that
[1:39:27]
nature instead of just having
[1:39:30]
12 or 31 here, 1 there. What
[1:39:32]
would it look like to have a
[1:39:33]
comprehensive, uh, roundabout
[1:39:35]
plan in this city.
[1:39:37]
Um, and then something I don
[1:39:38]
think people are talking about
[1:39:40]
enough, but with what the onset
[1:39:42]
of the waymos and some of these
[1:39:43]
rideshare programs in the
[1:39:45]
bigger cities.
[1:39:47]
Uber started in, in dc, started
[1:39:49]
in la and San Francisco, and
[1:39:49]
now it
[1:39:50]
s all over the entire
[1:39:51]
world, so it
[1:39:51]
s only a matter of
[1:39:54]
time that we see rideshare in
[1:39:56]
the, uh, transportation as a
[1:39:57]
service coming our way and
[1:39:58]
seeing what that might look
[1:40:01]
like as at a greater capacity
[1:40:03]
of what it would, uh, how long
[1:40:06]
it looks like until we might
[1:40:09]
have 20%, 30%, uh.
[1:40:10]
Unmanned vehicles, you know,
[1:40:12]
driving and.
[1:40:13]
You know, taking people to
[1:40:14]
point a to point b, seeing what
[1:40:16]
that does for the safety
[1:40:18]
overall, um.
[1:40:19]
With regards to the, the
[1:40:20]
sensors and the ability for
[1:40:22]
those vehicles to drive the
[1:40:23]
exact speed limit, not going
[1:40:24]
over. There
[1:40:25]
s no human error in
[1:40:27]
that remodel. Obviously the
[1:40:28]
technology has to be there, but
[1:40:28]
it wouldn
[1:40:29]
t be a bad idea for
[1:40:30]
us to have an onset of what
[1:40:31]
that looks like in the city and
[1:40:31]
if that
[1:40:32]
s something that we
[1:40:33]
want to head towards, uh, as
[1:40:34]
those become more available.
[1:40:37]
Um, thank you, I rest.
[1:40:39]
Ok, and uh council member lines.
[1:40:45]
Thank you Mayor, um, I
[1:40:46]
m, I
[1:40:47]
m,
[1:40:48]
I wanna thank the public for
[1:40:49]
being here. I really feel like
[1:40:51]
this opportunity for everyone
[1:40:52]
to speak was really valuable,
[1:40:53]
and I appreciated all your
[1:40:56]
comments. Thank you. I always
[1:40:57]
learned a lot and, um, thank
[1:40:59]
you for putting the effort into
[1:41:00]
coming.
[1:41:05]
Um, so I, I do want to, uh,
[1:41:07]
start by saying I appreciate my
[1:41:07]
colleague
[1:41:08]
s comments so far. Um,
[1:41:11]
I will make it 3 so far that
[1:41:12]
are really, that, uh, I
[1:41:14]
really in support of some of
[1:41:15]
the things they
[1:41:15]
ve already
[1:41:17]
suggested, and, uh, so what I
[1:41:21]
wanted to, uh, to do is to
[1:41:24]
first just say that I share the
[1:41:25]
community
[1:41:26]
s concern about the
[1:41:29]
safety of our children, and I
[1:41:30]
feel where, where my
[1:41:32]
through line is on roadway
[1:41:33]
safety has to do with our
[1:41:34]
children, and we
[1:41:34]
re in the
[1:41:36]
position where we can lead as
[1:41:38]
the governing body, and I, I do
[1:41:40]
want to see us take some action
[1:41:41]
at this juncture.
[1:41:44]
Um, right now, also, staff is
[1:41:46]
bringing this forward to us to
[1:41:47]
say, oh, these are the things
[1:41:47]
we
[1:41:48]
ve done, and we
[1:41:48]
re hearing
[1:41:49]
from the public saying these
[1:41:50]
are the things we
[1:41:51]
d like you to
[1:41:52]
do. So we
[1:41:53]
re at a juncture
[1:41:54]
where we can give staff some
[1:41:56]
clear direction. So, I do want
[1:41:57]
to leave this meeting with
[1:41:59]
giving staff some clear
[1:42:01]
direction, um, on where I would
[1:42:04]
like to see us move forward and
[1:42:06]
also to compliment what my
[1:42:07]
colleagues are already saying
[1:42:10]
here from the dais. I feel like
[1:42:12]
our, uh, sheriff has done.
[1:42:15]
A really, really good job.
[1:42:18]
Kudos to Captain Watts. Um, I
[1:42:20]
like him and his team to
[1:42:22]
continue to do a great job and
[1:42:24]
be as well funded as we need,
[1:42:27]
and I look forward to future
[1:42:28]
discussion on that. If more
[1:42:30]
funding is valuable and how it
[1:42:32]
will be used, I will be open to
[1:42:34]
supporting it, but I do wanna
[1:42:36]
make sure I give a shout out on
[1:42:38]
that. What I would like us to
[1:42:40]
do here now then is to do as
[1:42:40]
well as he
[1:42:42]
s doing, um.
[1:42:44]
And that has to do more with
[1:42:46]
what action are we going to
[1:42:48]
take to have our roadways be
[1:42:50]
safer, not just the enforcement.
[1:42:53]
I want to start by saying,
[1:42:58]
I was at the um mts, uh,
[1:43:00]
commission meeting on AUGUST
[1:43:01]
10th, where a lot of the
[1:43:03]
community came forward to talk
[1:43:04]
about their concerns for
[1:43:05]
roadway safety, and the
[1:43:06]
commission was also talking
[1:43:07]
about their work plans. So it
[1:43:09]
was really good to hear the
[1:43:11]
community concerns. One of my
[1:43:13]
friends, Bill Shen, said,
[1:43:16]
Something that I think is
[1:43:18]
really poignant, and that is
[1:43:20]
vehicle drivers go the speed
[1:43:22]
the road invites them to go,
[1:43:24]
and I, I noted that at the time
[1:43:25]
and I thought, well, that
[1:43:28]
really another one of my
[1:43:30]
guiding principles when the
[1:43:31]
roadway allows a driver to go
[1:43:33]
fast, they will be invited to
[1:43:36]
go fast. And so I will, I will
[1:43:40]
place a lot of my emphasis more
[1:43:42]
on our roadway design and what
[1:43:43]
we can do to make our
[1:43:43]
pedestrians.
[1:43:46]
And our bicycles safer
[1:43:48]
Uh, I also support the fact
[1:43:48]
we
[1:43:49]
ve done a lot of research on
[1:43:51]
this already. We already have a
[1:43:53]
couple of data-driven documents.
[1:43:55]
The local road safety plan is
[1:43:57]
the one that was approved in
[1:44:00]
2022 and it has some really
[1:44:02]
outstanding, uh, data.
[1:44:03]
Uh, I just, I
[1:44:04]
ll just call to a
[1:44:07]
few things and then suggest
[1:44:09]
that we might consider these as
[1:44:11]
we go forward, looking at what
[1:44:13]
we do to make our pedestrian
[1:44:15]
and bicyclists safer on the
[1:44:17]
roadway and thus make everyone
[1:44:18]
safer on the roadway.
[1:44:21]
For example, in this
[1:44:23]
data-driven document, they have
[1:44:25]
safety measures or what they
[1:44:27]
call countermeasures, and they
[1:44:29]
recommend, uh, these, uh,
[1:44:31]
projects, specific projects for
[1:44:34]
funding. For example, they
[1:44:37]
articulate signal timing. They
[1:44:38]
articulate this document
[1:44:39]
articulates dilemma zones,
[1:44:41]
dilemma zones are where there
[1:44:42]
are a lot of an intersection
[1:44:43]
where there
[1:44:44]
s a lot happening.
[1:44:46]
Uh, they articulate bite boxes.
[1:44:49]
They articulate, uh, bike.
[1:44:50]
Markings and maybe the one I
[1:44:55]
want to land on is they, um,
[1:44:57]
outlined pedestrian crossings
[1:44:58]
with enhancements, the safety
[1:45:00]
measures associated with
[1:45:01]
pedestrian crossings at
[1:45:03]
intersections or wherever
[1:45:05]
pedestrians are crossing, and
[1:45:06]
the projects that are
[1:45:08]
articulated in this document
[1:45:10]
that at that time were
[1:45:12]
suggested to move forward as
[1:45:15]
the highest priority locations
[1:45:20]
only cost $292,000. So, um, I
[1:45:20]
wanted to.
[1:45:22]
Show that as an example of if
[1:45:25]
we really focus on where get
[1:45:26]
get staff to come back as we
[1:45:27]
re
[1:45:27]
talking about, you know,
[1:45:29]
looking at this document, maybe
[1:45:29]
we don
[1:45:30]
t need a full update
[1:45:30]
that
[1:45:31]
s going to take 9 months,
[1:45:33]
but maybe what we do is look at
[1:45:35]
this document, identify where
[1:45:37]
those top priorities are and
[1:45:38]
then challenge ourselves to
[1:45:39]
find the funding right away.
[1:45:41]
Sometimes it might just be
[1:45:43]
signal timing. Sometimes it
[1:45:45]
might just be the advanced
[1:45:47]
timing on the pedestrian
[1:45:48]
activated lights. Let
[1:45:49]
s find
[1:45:49]
that.
[1:45:50]
Lowest hanging fruit, and let
[1:45:52]
go for it right away. Let
[1:45:56]
take action. Um, and so I would,
[1:45:59]
I would be in support of
[1:46:02]
focusing on um these pedestrian
[1:46:04]
crossings at intersections, and
[1:46:05]
d be happy to consider
[1:46:06]
additional funding and how we
[1:46:08]
can move this forward as soon
[1:46:08]
as possible. I
[1:46:09]
ll rest.
[1:46:15]
Cap.
[1:46:17]
Ok, uh, council member of San
[1:46:19]
Antonio, thank you. Uh, thank
[1:46:20]
you, Mayor. Um, I just wanna
[1:46:22]
say thank you, uh, thank you,
[1:46:24]
staff. Thank you, Dan, thank
[1:46:26]
you, Captain Watts for the
[1:46:27]
excellent report. Thank you for
[1:46:29]
what.
[1:46:31]
You guys do for the city, um,
[1:46:32]
obviously, the numbers show
[1:46:33]
that you guys are doing
[1:46:35]
wonderful, um, work for the
[1:46:37]
city. Dan, great job on getting
[1:46:38]
this report together. I know
[1:46:38]
that
[1:46:41]
s a lot of work and I.
[1:46:43]
I believe that we are doing a
[1:46:44]
lot.
[1:46:46]
But can we be doing more?
[1:46:47]
Of course, that is what we
[1:46:48]
re
[1:46:49]
here for. We
[1:46:49]
re here to
[1:46:50]
continue the work. We
[1:46:51]
re here
[1:46:52]
to continue to build on what
[1:46:53]
we
[1:46:54]
ve done now into the future,
[1:46:55]
um.
[1:46:57]
I think
[1:46:59]
Everyone here in this room.
[1:47:00]
Is here for the same thing.
[1:47:03]
Fewer injuries.
[1:47:05]
I, I believe in Vision Zero. I
[1:47:05]
believe it
[1:47:06]
s, I do, I think
[1:47:06]
it
[1:47:08]
s possible. I, I truly in my
[1:47:09]
heart, I, that
[1:47:10]
s the, that
[1:47:10]
the goal. That
[1:47:11]
s where we want
[1:47:12]
to shoot for. So we want to
[1:47:13]
shoot for that goal.
[1:47:15]
Um,
[1:47:15]
So I, I don
[1:47:17]
t, I don
[1:47:17]
t brush
[1:47:19]
vision zero off. I think it
[1:47:20]
an important goal. I think it
[1:47:22]
something we should be shooting
[1:47:23]
for, um,
[1:47:26]
is no road deaths. Nobody wants
[1:47:29]
My kids are 3 and 5. My 5 year
[1:47:29]
old thinks he
[1:47:30]
s, you know, he
[1:47:32]
a teenager now. He wants more
[1:47:33]
and more.
[1:47:33]
Uh,
[1:47:35]
Rope to go down the hill to go
[1:47:37]
over here to go, and I, I live
[1:47:39]
off El Caminolo Don Norte, so
[1:47:41]
my sister lives on Cole Ranch,
[1:47:43]
um, and Lone Jack, so.
[1:47:44]
That doesn
[1:47:45]
t seem that far when
[1:47:46]
we walk over there, but I know
[1:47:46]
it
[1:47:47]
s just a matter of time. He
[1:47:49]
already went too far.
[1:47:50]
Sorry to go on a tangent here,
[1:47:52]
but he already went too far and
[1:47:53]
we let that leash out a little
[1:47:55]
bit too, too much. He went
[1:47:56]
someplace he wasn
[1:47:57]
t supposed to
[1:47:58]
be. So that alone for me,
[1:47:58]
that
[1:47:59]
s like one of those things
[1:47:59]
that
[1:48:00]
s like, oh.
[1:48:02]
A tense moment like.
[1:48:03]
That that could easily happen.
[1:48:04]
And that
[1:48:05]
s what makes that.
[1:48:08]
You know, the, I think it was,
[1:48:10]
uh, some, somebody, a gentleman
[1:48:12]
brought up our first Paul, um,
[1:48:14]
that.
[1:48:16]
Signalize light coming up when
[1:48:16]
you push the button that it
[1:48:19]
actually, uh, ahead of that in,
[1:48:21]
um, that rfp.
[1:48:22]
Great idea. I mean, I thought
[1:48:25]
that was a wonderful idea.
[1:48:26]
Um, because you
[1:48:26]
re right,
[1:48:27]
people drive. I, when I leave
[1:48:28]
that our neighborhood and I
[1:48:30]
drive down that that road.
[1:48:32]
People, people do, I.
[1:48:35]
Go down that road pretty quick.
[1:48:37]
Um, I actually saw one of my
[1:48:39]
neighbors with Bruce
[1:48:40]
s um speed
[1:48:41]
gun at the corner, clocking
[1:48:42]
people when I left my
[1:48:43]
neighborhood one day, um, and
[1:48:45]
he stopped me. He was like,
[1:48:45]
Marco, look what I
[1:48:46]
m doing.
[1:48:49]
Um,
[1:48:50]
So everybody here, I know we
[1:48:50]
re,
[1:48:50]
we
[1:48:52]
re all here for the, for the,
[1:48:54]
for the same reason. I
[1:48:54]
m not
[1:48:55]
here to say I
[1:48:55]
m right, you
[1:48:56]
re
[1:48:56]
wrong, I
[1:48:57]
m here because I want
[1:49:00]
to continue the work that we.
[1:49:01]
We are here talking about
[1:49:04]
I think, uh,
[1:49:05]
When I think about what
[1:49:08]
happening right now, I love
[1:49:09]
hearing the community come
[1:49:11]
forward with your ideas and the
[1:49:12]
evaluation, Mike.
[1:49:14]
I always love talking to you.
[1:49:16]
Um, you have a lot of great
[1:49:17]
input and I love what, what you,
[1:49:20]
the, the passion you bring, um,
[1:49:21]
so I always welcome those talks.
[1:49:23]
I,, I, I love talking to Laura.
[1:49:25]
I, I can sit here and, and name
[1:49:28]
off people. I went on a bike
[1:49:30]
ride with another concerned
[1:49:36]
citizen, um, and I very spry,
[1:49:38]
took me from Santaguido up and
[1:49:39]
over the hill up to Riquesa. I
[1:49:40]
think she was trying to
[1:49:42]
actually kill me because she,
[1:49:42]
the amount.
[1:49:43]
Time she took me over this hill
[1:49:45]
was.
[1:49:47]
Insurmountable for me but I did
[1:49:50]
it and I lived. But I did see.
[1:49:52]
From her point of view and from
[1:49:52]
the biker
[1:49:53]
s point of view, what
[1:49:55]
that, what these roads do look
[1:49:58]
like, and it makes sense to me,
[1:50:00]
um, I, along with what, um,
[1:50:01]
Deputy Mayor o
[1:50:02]
Hara and um
[1:50:03]
council member Schaffer bring
[1:50:05]
up the safer routes off the
[1:50:06]
main roads. That
[1:50:06]
s exactly what
[1:50:07]
I think when I talked about
[1:50:08]
with.
[1:50:10]
Um, our concerned citizens are
[1:50:12]
concerned biker that it made so
[1:50:12]
much sense to me when I
[1:50:15]
actually wrote it that.
[1:50:15]
There are issues here that we
[1:50:17]
can fix.
[1:50:18]
Um, and I
[1:50:20]
ll take that with me
[1:50:21]
just from that first, firsthand,
[1:50:22]
that first person point of view.
[1:50:24]
Um,
[1:50:25]
Let
[1:50:26]
s see here.
[1:50:27]
Um, again, I
[1:50:29]
m not trying to
[1:50:29]
say we
[1:50:30]
re doing everything
[1:50:31]
possible, but
[1:50:33]
The amount of things that we
[1:50:33]
ve
[1:50:34]
listed off here, it, it
[1:50:34]
s, it
[1:50:36]
quite a bit, and I, you know, I
[1:50:38]
look at the 4 priorities of
[1:50:40]
safe streets, speeding
[1:50:42]
intersections, DUIs, distracted
[1:50:42]
driving. I know we
[1:50:43]
ve we
[1:50:43]
ve
[1:50:44]
listed all of these things on
[1:50:45]
here, of all the things we
[1:50:45]
ve
[1:50:47]
done to
[1:50:48]
To mitigate these things or
[1:50:51]
help them or try to fix them
[1:50:52]
and again, we
[1:50:53]
ve done a lot.
[1:50:54]
There
[1:50:55]
s more to be done, and I
[1:50:56]
think that
[1:50:57]
s where I, I keep
[1:50:59]
going back to is I know that it
[1:51:00]
keeps coming back to.
[1:51:00]
You
[1:51:01]
re not doing enough or we
[1:51:03]
need to do more, but our work
[1:51:06]
is never done here. We could
[1:51:07]
probably stop talking about
[1:51:08]
this, get something passed, and
[1:51:10]
stop talking about it, but
[1:51:11]
something else will happen or
[1:51:11]
we
[1:51:13]
ll need to continue this
[1:51:16]
conversation always, so.
[1:51:16]
Let
[1:51:17]
s see, um, I know red light
[1:51:19]
cameras is coming up. I know
[1:51:20]
this is a very kind of hot
[1:51:21]
button topic.
[1:51:21]
Um, for me, I
[1:51:23]
m.
[1:51:25]
You know, I am in support. I,
[1:51:27]
ll say it right now.
[1:51:27]
m, it
[1:51:29]
s campaign season. This
[1:51:31]
might kill me. But what it, it
[1:51:32]
does for me is it
[1:51:33]
s, it
[1:51:35]
helpful for the residents. I
[1:51:36]
want to see at least, you know,
[1:51:37]
if this is a pilot program,
[1:51:38]
let
[1:51:38]
s see. Let
[1:51:39]
s see what it
[1:51:40]
does, because it
[1:51:41]
s, it, it is
[1:51:42]
gonna make a difference and
[1:51:42]
we
[1:51:43]
ll see if it does. If it
[1:51:44]
doesn
[1:51:45]
t, you know, it was here
[1:51:45]
before, it
[1:51:47]
s gone now.
[1:51:49]
ve talked to you guys. Safe
[1:51:50]
streets, enough about it, and I
[1:51:51]
believe in it, so let
[1:51:51]
s just at
[1:51:53]
least.
[1:51:53]
Let
[1:51:53]
s, let
[1:51:53]
s look, let
[1:51:54]
s take a
[1:51:55]
real look at it.
[1:51:59]
Um,
[1:52:01]
I think we, I think.
[1:52:02]
Uh
[1:52:03]
Again, I, I
[1:52:04]
ll just say this
[1:52:04]
also as well, so I
[1:52:05]
ll, and then
[1:52:05]
ll, I
[1:52:07]
ll, uh, and we
[1:52:07]
re short
[1:52:09]
on time. Um, I would support,
[1:52:10]
you know, additional traffic
[1:52:12]
deputies. I, I know that
[1:52:13]
traffic the behavior when I see
[1:52:15]
a cop, I know I, I don
[1:52:15]
t drive
[1:52:17]
fast, but I mean, I, I want to
[1:52:19]
lead by example, so I, I try to
[1:52:21]
really try to slow myself down
[1:52:22]
in my van, even when i
[1:52:23]
m going
[1:52:24]
downhill on Riquesa, I can just
[1:52:25]
not press on the gas. I
[1:52:25]
m, I
[1:52:26]
already speeding.
[1:52:27]
So I try to lead by example
[1:52:29]
because just like Bruce.
[1:52:30]
I don
[1:52:30]
t want to be the one
[1:52:31]
going, hey, that was a mayor
[1:52:32]
driving by. That was a council
[1:52:33]
member driving by. He just sped
[1:52:36]
right by me.
[1:52:37]
So, um, I
[1:52:38]
ll rest there, but.
[1:52:40]
I really do think this, whether
[1:52:40]
we
[1:52:40]
re it
[1:52:41]
s like, it feels like
[1:52:42]
it
[1:52:42]
s this. I don
[1:52:43]
t, I don
[1:52:44]
feel that. What I feel is like
[1:52:46]
you guys are giving us what we
[1:52:48]
need to hear and that maybe
[1:52:51]
that bit of abrasion or whatnot
[1:52:52]
with the way, however you wanna
[1:52:53]
to word it, gives us the, the
[1:52:54]
impetus to be like, all right,
[1:52:55]
like,
[1:52:57]
We gotta do more.
[1:52:59]
So, uh, I
[1:53:00]
ll rest. Ok. And
[1:53:00]
Deputy Mayor o
[1:53:05]
Hara.
[1:53:06]
Um, I wanna thank everybody for
[1:53:07]
their input today. Thank the
[1:53:09]
public for showing up today and
[1:53:11]
really participating. Um, I
[1:53:11]
think we all, it
[1:53:12]
s clear we all,
[1:53:14]
we all share your, your
[1:53:15]
concerns. It
[1:53:16]
s never-ending
[1:53:18]
task for us up here, um.
[1:53:21]
I wanna
[1:53:23]
Cover a couple of quick things
[1:53:24]
that, that I think aren
[1:53:24]
t on
[1:53:26]
this report.
[1:53:28]
And, you know, one is, I think,
[1:53:29]
um,
[1:53:30]
You know,
[1:53:33]
Certainly
[1:53:34]
When I walked in the building,
[1:53:36]
um,
[1:53:38]
a couple of years ago, I felt
[1:53:40]
like staff looked at unique
[1:53:41]
situational approaches to
[1:53:43]
things and individual sites,
[1:53:44]
intersections, intersection
[1:53:45]
where piecemelling a city
[1:53:45]
together.
[1:53:47]
Um, and I look at the things
[1:53:49]
like the csap and the, the
[1:53:51]
local roadway projects and, uh,
[1:53:52]
the other products and I look
[1:53:53]
at the circulation element
[1:53:54]
coming back and with the
[1:53:56]
partnership of council member
[1:53:57]
Chief are really pushing that
[1:53:58]
circulation. I want to come
[1:54:00]
back. We see this more holistic
[1:54:01]
plan coming together and it
[1:54:02]
s a
[1:54:03]
compliment to staff on their
[1:54:06]
hard work on it. Um, and while
[1:54:08]
we do address situational
[1:54:10]
pieces in there. Um, the city
[1:54:11]
approach has become more
[1:54:12]
systemic and looking at the
[1:54:14]
whole picture and within that,
[1:54:15]
the goal is 0.
[1:54:17]
Death. The goal is always zero
[1:54:19]
deaths to our ability.
[1:54:19]
It
[1:54:20]
s a shared responsibility
[1:54:20]
between the government and the
[1:54:22]
public.
[1:54:24]
Um, I have an 11 year old
[1:54:26]
daughter, and just like anyone
[1:54:27]
else here, I don
[1:54:28]
t live on a
[1:54:29]
busy street in Maine Arterial
[1:54:30]
in the city because I don
[1:54:31]
want my daughter playing on a,
[1:54:32]
on a busy street. I want to be
[1:54:33]
able to go out and play in the
[1:54:34]
middle of the street like you
[1:54:35]
see in movies. Um, even within
[1:54:37]
that, I live on a quiet street.
[1:54:39]
She has to go 400 yards up the
[1:54:40]
street so that she can see any
[1:54:40]
car that comes around the
[1:54:42]
corner and they can say, game
[1:54:44]
on, and hop off. When she
[1:54:46]
crosses our street.
[1:54:47]
Yell out the kitchen window.
[1:54:50]
Look both ways.
[1:54:50]
It
[1:54:51]
s never ending. It
[1:54:52]
s a
[1:54:53]
shared responsibility between
[1:54:54]
everybody using the road. And
[1:54:55]
we all realize that up here,
[1:54:56]
and we
[1:54:56]
re all working to move
[1:54:57]
forward with that, with its
[1:54:59]
pedestrians.
[1:55:01]
Cyclist vehicles and how they
[1:55:03]
all interact together.
[1:55:04]
And, and that
[1:55:05]
s never messed up
[1:55:09]
here by anybody up here, um,
[1:55:10]
staff has really bought into
[1:55:10]
this idea and and done a
[1:55:12]
fantastic job with it. City
[1:55:12]
manager
[1:55:13]
s office has really
[1:55:14]
done a great job on it. Um, and
[1:55:17]
I want to touch on the, the
[1:55:18]
unique situations like that,
[1:55:20]
that is also the second piece
[1:55:20]
that isn
[1:55:24]
t in there is
[1:55:24]
We
[1:55:25]
re meeting on site more
[1:55:27]
often than ever before, whether
[1:55:27]
it
[1:55:28]
s a council member, whether
[1:55:28]
it
[1:55:29]
s a city manager, whether
[1:55:30]
it
[1:55:31]
s the staff, um, and I can
[1:55:33]
look at an example of a great
[1:55:34]
example of that is that the
[1:55:35]
ymca, where we
[1:55:36]
re replacing
[1:55:37]
those chicanes with stop signs.
[1:55:39]
We met with the ymca Seacrest,
[1:55:41]
a number of the neighbors.
[1:55:43]
Staff was out there. The city
[1:55:44]
manager was out there, myself,
[1:55:47]
and we watched.
[1:55:49]
A failed infrastructure piece.
[1:55:50]
The shakes, we watched cars, we
[1:55:51]
watched an nctd bus. I
[1:55:52]
ashamed I
[1:55:52]
m ashamed to say it,
[1:55:53]
drive right over it.
[1:55:54]
Like it wasn
[1:55:56]
t even there.
[1:55:58]
Um, so infrastructure is great.
[1:55:59]
But we want to go back and make
[1:56:00]
sure it works. And I
[1:56:01]
m really
[1:56:02]
Glad and you didn
[1:56:02]
t put, you
[1:56:02]
didn
[1:56:03]
t put it on the, on the,
[1:56:04]
on the report, but I think you
[1:56:05]
should have. Like, you
[1:56:05]
re out
[1:56:06]
there.
[1:56:07]
Checking in on the projects
[1:56:07]
that you
[1:56:08]
re doing, do they work
[1:56:09]
with us and listen to the
[1:56:11]
residents on that. And I think
[1:56:11]
that
[1:56:12]
s a huge step in the right
[1:56:13]
direction for all of the stuff
[1:56:14]
we
[1:56:15]
ve talked about today. Um,
[1:56:16]
so, you know, as a result,
[1:56:17]
we
[1:56:18]
re taking the chicanes out
[1:56:19]
with the help of the ymc. We
[1:56:20]
came together to put up a stop.
[1:56:20]
We
[1:56:21]
re going to be putting a
[1:56:22]
stop sign, um, and we
[1:56:22]
ll go
[1:56:23]
back and we
[1:56:23]
ll check and see
[1:56:24]
how that
[1:56:24]
s working. Pedestrian
[1:56:26]
island in there, everything. Um,
[1:56:26]
so I think that
[1:56:27]
s something,
[1:56:27]
you know, I, I
[1:56:28]
m sure you
[1:56:28]
didn
[1:56:28]
t want to toot your own
[1:56:29]
horn, but I
[1:56:29]
m gonna toot it for
[1:56:31]
you. I think I really
[1:56:32]
appreciate that.
[1:56:33]
The staff is going in that
[1:56:34]
direction with all these, these
[1:56:35]
safety measures and listening
[1:56:36]
to our residents and, and what
[1:56:37]
they
[1:56:37]
re having to say.
[1:56:44]
Um,
[1:56:46]
I think, you know, I, I think
[1:56:48]
those ideas, signal timing,
[1:56:50]
dilemma zones, bike boxes, bike
[1:56:51]
markings, ped crossing
[1:56:52]
enhancements. I think you
[1:56:53]
re
[1:56:54]
referring to the csap, which is
[1:56:55]
on here, and I
[1:56:55]
m, I
[1:56:55]
m really
[1:56:56]
happy that we
[1:56:56]
re doing it. I
[1:56:57]
know the staff will bring all
[1:56:59]
of those back to us.
[1:57:00]
As urgently as possible.
[1:57:00]
Obviously, that
[1:57:00]
s why we
[1:57:01]
re
[1:57:02]
here, because these things are
[1:57:04]
a top priority in the city, so.
[1:57:07]
As they come back, uh, I
[1:57:07]
ll
[1:57:08]
please keep bringing them back
[1:57:09]
as quickly as possible, but I
[1:57:09]
think you
[1:57:09]
re already doing that,
[1:57:11]
and I expect that to continue.
[1:57:11]
So thank you.
[1:57:16]
Um,
[1:57:17]
Up here mentioned several times
[1:57:18]
was the city crossing guards
[1:57:21]
was on the site, um.
[1:57:22]
m gonna reach out to a few
[1:57:25]
people, you know, I, I, we, we
[1:57:27]
approved all 14, um,
[1:57:27]
And I
[1:57:28]
m gonna say all the
[1:57:29]
people here who are coming here
[1:57:31]
to talk about it. Join me at a
[1:57:32]
school board meeting and let
[1:57:34]
ask them.
[1:57:36]
If they can, instead of firing
[1:57:37]
Larry, move him to someplace
[1:57:39]
that we have open this year or
[1:57:39]
a site that
[1:57:40]
s on this map, like,
[1:57:42]
rather than get rid of.
[1:57:44]
3 or 4 good employees who are
[1:57:45]
doing a great job and great
[1:57:46]
service to the community. Let
[1:57:47]
go to the school board and say,
[1:57:48]
hey, city council
[1:57:48]
s gonna pay
[1:57:49]
for this.
[1:57:49]
We
[1:57:51]
ve already agreed to it.
[1:57:51]
Let
[1:57:52]
s reallocate these people.
[1:57:52]
Let
[1:57:54]
s not get rid of them.
[1:57:55]
Um, so if you want to join me
[1:57:56]
in that, please send me an
[1:57:57]
email. Let
[1:57:57]
s talk about it.
[1:57:57]
Let
[1:57:58]
s do it. Let
[1:57:58]
s go to the
[1:57:59]
school board, ask why that
[1:58:00]
happened, and let
[1:58:00]
s make sure
[1:58:00]
that
[1:58:01]
s still going forward
[1:58:02]
because we
[1:58:02]
re all working
[1:58:04]
together, the schools residents
[1:58:05]
and us, and we want to make
[1:58:06]
that happen. So, um, I think
[1:58:07]
that
[1:58:07]
s an important question.
[1:58:08]
It needs to, it
[1:58:08]
s worth
[1:58:10]
mentioning, um,
[1:58:11]
You know, it
[1:58:11]
s great that
[1:58:12]
there
[1:58:14]
s a, uh,
[1:58:15]
GoFundMe for Larry the crossing
[1:58:17]
guard. Uh, I hope they make it.
[1:58:19]
He seems to be a great guy, and
[1:58:20]
attribute to the community, um,
[1:58:20]
whether it
[1:58:21]
s political or not,
[1:58:21]
it doesn
[1:58:22]
t matter. He
[1:58:22]
s a great
[1:58:23]
guy. Um, but let
[1:58:23]
s get him his
[1:58:26]
job back.
[1:58:26]
Let
[1:58:29]
s do it. Um, so, I, I would
[1:58:32]
push for that. Um.
[1:58:33]
ll give you another quick
[1:58:35]
story. I visited my dad this
[1:58:36]
year, um.
[1:58:39]
In his town, which is a pretty
[1:58:44]
small town. Um, and, um,
[1:58:46]
Country roads, uh.
[1:58:48]
Not a pedestrian in sight,
[1:58:51]
probably not a cyclist in sight,
[1:58:52]
um.
[1:58:52]
Just the roads you want to have
[1:58:54]
like.
[1:58:56]
You know, fast rental car and
[1:58:58]
hit the gas and go down. Um,
[1:58:59]
speed limits are all 30 miles
[1:59:04]
an hour. Everyone goes 29.
[1:59:05]
And, and you won
[1:59:05]
t find anybody
[1:59:06]
speeding.
[1:59:08]
You know how the city pays its
[1:59:09]
taxes?
[1:59:12]
Tickets.
[1:59:14]
You go, you go 31 miles an hour
[1:59:15]
and you
[1:59:15]
re, we
[1:59:15]
re watching
[1:59:17]
sirens in the back window,
[1:59:19]
pulling you over, um, you know,
[1:59:20]
it, it as much as we don
[1:59:21]
t want
[1:59:23]
to become enforcement centric,
[1:59:25]
it, it, it makes a difference.
[1:59:25]
And it, it
[1:59:26]
s, we just have to,
[1:59:27]
the reality of it is it makes a
[1:59:30]
big difference. Um, I, I
[1:59:32]
absolutely support, uh, the,
[1:59:33]
the, and the two deputies are
[1:59:35]
looking for what the needs are,
[1:59:36]
what we can afford, when we can
[1:59:37]
afford them, um, and moving
[1:59:39]
forward and, and really, I know
[1:59:40]
that our, our sheriff
[1:59:41]
department is very responsible
[1:59:42]
in telling us what their needs
[1:59:43]
are.
[1:59:44]
And we
[1:59:45]
re dedicated to making
[1:59:46]
sure that those needs are there
[1:59:47]
so you can do your job
[1:59:48]
effectively. So I, I fully
[1:59:49]
support, uh, the mayor
[1:59:49]
s idea
[1:59:50]
on that. I think that
[1:59:51]
s really
[1:59:52]
great. Um,
[1:59:54]
I would like to add, I, I
[1:59:56]
like to see us approach other
[1:59:58]
cities and the county because I
[1:59:59]
think the county is a big part
[2:00:01]
of this, uh,
[2:00:03]
To have a a real healthy
[2:00:04]
discussion about entry points
[2:00:05]
within the city, because I,
[2:00:05]
what I
[2:00:06]
ve heard a lot of times
[2:00:07]
up here from our people who
[2:00:07]
ve
[2:00:09]
come up, um, Michael Durancy
[2:00:10]
mentioned it, you know, people
[2:00:11]
come up and they
[2:00:11]
re entering
[2:00:12]
the city quick.
[2:00:14]
And how do we, how do we
[2:00:15]
address that? And I think
[2:00:16]
that
[2:00:16]
s something we have to
[2:00:17]
partner with. And, and I don
[2:00:18]
know if that
[2:00:18]
ll happen
[2:00:19]
overnight, but we gotta start
[2:00:20]
the conversation. So let
[2:00:21]
start the conversation. Let
[2:00:22]
be the ones who start it.
[2:00:24]
Um, so I, I, I
[2:00:24]
m gonna look to,
[2:00:26]
to the mayor to help, you know,
[2:00:26]
let
[2:00:27]
s craft something together
[2:00:28]
to go to the other the other
[2:00:30]
mayors, the county supervisor,
[2:00:30]
and let
[2:00:30]
s, let
[2:00:31]
s write a letter
[2:00:31]
that says, hey, we want to get
[2:00:32]
going on this and see what they
[2:00:33]
wanna do.
[2:00:37]
Um,
[2:00:40]
Lastly, you know, I think.
[2:00:42]
We try to silo issues up here a
[2:00:43]
lot of times, and, and it
[2:00:45]
natural, it happens because
[2:00:45]
you
[2:00:46]
re talking about a very
[2:00:48]
specific project or a very
[2:00:49]
specific outcome.
[2:00:51]
And
[2:00:53]
I want to implore everybody up
[2:00:54]
here who
[2:00:55]
It
[2:00:55]
s here because they
[2:00:56]
re upset
[2:00:57]
about
[2:00:59]
Traffic and traffic measures
[2:01:01]
and traffic safety.
[2:01:01]
It
[2:01:03]
s not just traffic safety.
[2:01:03]
It
[2:01:05]
s a multitude of issues. I,
[2:01:08]
i urge you to.
[2:01:10]
Find out, ask the state, hey,
[2:01:11]
this, this housing mandate is
[2:01:13]
creating a dangerous situation
[2:01:13]
in our city.
[2:01:15]
Why?
[2:01:17]
What are we doing? What are we
[2:01:18]
trying to do? Get involved in
[2:01:19]
other issues. E-bikes, we just
[2:01:20]
spent
[2:01:22]
Hour and a half last time
[2:01:23]
talking about e-bikes and the
[2:01:24]
management of it and the
[2:01:26]
challenges of it, um, get
[2:01:27]
involved in the e-bike
[2:01:29]
conversation. Um, there are
[2:01:30]
multiple layers of any
[2:01:31]
discussion we have up here, and
[2:01:32]
m only hitting those because
[2:01:32]
we
[2:01:33]
re talking about traffic
[2:01:34]
today, um, but there
[2:01:34]
s multiple,
[2:01:36]
multiple areas we can go to
[2:01:36]
rather than silo over let
[2:01:38]
realize everything is
[2:01:39]
interconnected, um, and look at
[2:01:40]
it. That
[2:01:40]
s the way I know
[2:01:41]
council looks at it from every,
[2:01:42]
all 5 of us out there, city
[2:01:43]
manager office and our staff
[2:01:45]
are trying to work things every
[2:01:46]
interconnecting in that
[2:01:48]
holistic approach. Um um.
[2:01:49]
But I think that
[2:01:49]
s where part
[2:01:50]
of where we have to go and look
[2:01:52]
at those questions. Otherwise
[2:01:53]
they become too simple and they
[2:01:53]
become black and white, and
[2:01:54]
these are not black and white
[2:01:56]
issues. These are very gray
[2:01:57]
issues of how do we get the
[2:01:59]
best outcome. Some of it is the
[2:02:00]
responsibility, as you
[2:02:00]
re
[2:02:01]
hearing the responsibility of
[2:02:02]
the driver. Some of it is
[2:02:03]
responsibility of the, some of
[2:02:04]
it is the infrastructure, and
[2:02:06]
we want to address all that the
[2:02:07]
best we can. You know, I think,
[2:02:08]
um,
[2:02:10]
Just to reiterate the, the
[2:02:12]
e-bike discussion did include a
[2:02:13]
large portion of education. I
[2:02:14]
know the city, um, and this
[2:02:14]
elsewhere wasn
[2:02:15]
t in there. So
[2:02:15]
you
[2:02:16]
re gonna move forward with
[2:02:17]
some educational pieces and I
[2:02:19]
Sure that all traffic mode
[2:02:20]
modalities will be included in
[2:02:21]
that educational piece that
[2:02:23]
came out of the e-bike
[2:02:24]
conversation. So, um,
[2:02:29]
This job will never end, and we
[2:02:29]
won
[2:02:31]
t rest until we get
[2:02:33]
Safest sea as we can possibly
[2:02:34]
get.
[2:02:35]
And the safest city will be
[2:02:37]
with the least possible deaths
[2:02:38]
we can get across the way. If
[2:02:39]
if it
[2:02:40]
s 0, great. If it
[2:02:40]
s 1,
[2:02:41]
great, we want it to be as
[2:02:43]
close to 0 as we can get it
[2:02:43]
though, and we
[2:02:43]
re always going
[2:02:44]
to be moving forward. And even
[2:02:45]
when we think we
[2:02:45]
ve got it
[2:02:46]
right.
[2:02:46]
We
[2:02:48]
re all committed to moving
[2:02:48]
forward. That
[2:02:49]
s staff, city
[2:02:50]
manager
[2:02:50]
s department, uh, as
[2:02:52]
well as our, our council. I
[2:02:55]
sure any future council, um,
[2:02:55]
whether it
[2:02:56]
s 4 years from now,
[2:02:57]
10 years from now, 20 years
[2:02:58]
from now, it
[2:02:58]
s always gonna be,
[2:02:59]
you, you, you don
[2:03:00]
t, you don
[2:03:00]
sit in these seats and hear the
[2:03:02]
things we hear and talk to the
[2:03:04]
residents every day and not
[2:03:05]
prioritize this. So, um, I, I
[2:03:06]
really grateful everybody came
[2:03:07]
up here. Hopefully, you, you
[2:03:09]
feel all the shared concerns,
[2:03:10]
um.
[2:03:12]
That we have with all of you.
[2:03:14]
Um, I think I wanna compliment
[2:03:14]
staff, sheriff
[2:03:15]
s department,
[2:03:16]
and the city manager
[2:03:17]
s office
[2:03:19]
really acting. Obviously, um,
[2:03:22]
This is, this is.
[2:03:24]
Well, bad pun, a long road
[2:03:24]
ahead still, and we
[2:03:24]
re going to
[2:03:26]
keep going. So, um, thank you
[2:03:27]
to everybody for participating.
[2:03:27]
Thank you for coming out
[2:03:29]
tonight.
[2:03:31]
Ok. Um, so, uh, I think I
[2:03:32]
ve
[2:03:33]
got a couple of actions that
[2:03:35]
ve heard a specific actions.
[2:03:38]
Number one is to, uh, agendaize
[2:03:39]
the, uh, certainly within the
[2:03:41]
framework of the, uh, the
[2:03:43]
circulation element, goals and
[2:03:45]
policies, uh, coming back and
[2:03:46]
going through the
[2:03:47]
recommendations in the local
[2:03:50]
road safety plan and the
[2:03:52]
comprehensive safety action
[2:03:53]
plans, um, because they
[2:03:53]
re,
[2:03:53]
they
[2:03:53]
re, they
[2:03:54]
re slightly
[2:03:55]
different and, and one
[2:03:55]
s more
[2:03:57]
focused on a handful of streets,
[2:03:58]
uh, comprehensive plan really
[2:03:59]
only looks.
[2:04:01]
To the major streets and, um, I
[2:04:03]
did have one question for, uh,
[2:04:04]
council member Lyons. The
[2:04:06]
200,000, is that in the
[2:04:08]
comprehensive safety action
[2:04:08]
plan. I, I didn
[2:04:09]
t see that in
[2:04:09]
there. No, it
[2:04:10]
s, uh, it
[2:04:10]
s in
[2:04:13]
the local road safety plan. Um,
[2:04:15]
I did not, uh, yeah, it
[2:04:16]
s page
[2:04:18]
45. Ok, page 45.
[2:04:20]
And, and so I think there
[2:04:24]
gonna be more detailed
[2:04:25]
directives coming out of there,
[2:04:26]
you know, one thing that I
[2:04:27]
looking for, and I think it
[2:04:29]
came up tonight multiple times
[2:04:31]
is the RRFBs and how can we
[2:04:33]
make them safer because quite
[2:04:34]
frankly, I, I.
[2:04:35]
m not sure I
[2:04:36]
ve, I
[2:04:36]
ve seen
[2:04:37]
examples where I think we even
[2:04:38]
talked to the others talked
[2:04:40]
about it. Uh, the people don
[2:04:41]
necessarily stop for them.
[2:04:41]
They
[2:04:42]
re not sure what to do on
[2:04:44]
a flashing yellow. So, but, but
[2:04:46]
there is actually in the uh
[2:04:48]
comprehensive safety action
[2:04:51]
plan, there is a uh
[2:04:53]
implementation strategy 3.2.
[2:04:54]
m sorry, uh, there, there was
[2:04:55]
one in there that talks about
[2:04:56]
this, also talks about
[2:04:58]
increased use of uh.
[2:05:00]
Speed signs and so, so this is,
[2:05:02]
this is a I opened this up.
[2:05:03]
This is a multivariable. There
[2:05:05]
are quite a few different
[2:05:08]
moving objects or moving, uh,
[2:05:11]
Task tasks moving forward, uh,
[2:05:12]
and we
[2:05:13]
re not slowing any
[2:05:14]
others down. In other words,
[2:05:15]
red light cameras, that
[2:05:15]
ll be
[2:05:18]
agenda, uh, we, we have quite a
[2:05:20]
few others occurring. And, uh,
[2:05:21]
we, we will continue forward,
[2:05:26]
but, uh, so agendaizing the
[2:05:29]
lrsp and and and csap and then
[2:05:32]
uh also work with the, uh,
[2:05:34]
City manager and sheriff on,
[2:05:35]
ll say the need, the
[2:05:39]
logistics, and the funding for
[2:05:40]
additional this is a
[2:05:41]
multivariable. There are quite
[2:05:42]
a few different. What is going
[2:05:44]
on now.
[2:05:49]
Welcome to the new world of sb
[2:05:50]
707 where we
[2:05:52]
re broadcasting
[2:05:53]
red light cameras, that
[2:05:54]
ll be
[2:05:55]
agenda. Can we, uh.
[2:05:55]
You
[2:05:56]
re a robot. You you guys
[2:05:57]
had to hear me once. Now you
[2:06:00]
gotta hear me twice. So sorry.
[2:06:02]
Yeah.
[2:06:04]
I, I always tell people, you
[2:06:06]
know, the best it can hope for
[2:06:08]
is nobody complaining. That
[2:06:10]
the pinnacle of performance. So,
[2:06:12]
but hopefully, Warren, Warren
[2:06:15]
got me quieted down at my, my,
[2:06:17]
uh, ai, uh, agent over there
[2:06:18]
speaking for me.
[2:06:18]
Um, i
[2:06:19]
m gonna go back. Number 2
[2:06:22]
is, uh, work with, uh, city
[2:06:24]
manager and sheriff on the, uh,
[2:06:27]
need, logistics and funding and
[2:06:28]
funding for an and funding and
[2:06:28]
funding for an additional 2 and
[2:06:29]
funding and funding for an
[2:06:30]
additional 2 traffic deputies
[2:06:32]
likely at mid-year budget would
[2:06:34]
be my guess. So, and then the
[2:06:34]
thing we didn
[2:06:35]
t talk about much,
[2:06:36]
all those people mentioned it,
[2:06:38]
is continue pushing the
[2:06:41]
education, um, I, I went to the,
[2:06:42]
uh, sheriff
[2:06:43]
s, uh, meeting with
[2:06:45]
the, with the city, the session.
[2:06:46]
I thought it was excellent. I
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like to see it repeated. I
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like.
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To see it videotaped and, and
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add that as yet another
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education component, so I think
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those are the, the three
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actions out of this meeting,
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and I
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m sure there
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ll be more
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in short order I would add the
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for the circulation elephant
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separating the having a a safe
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travel lanes for the bikes.
[2:07:07]
Some, something of that nature,
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just a, a, a proposed so we can
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have something to start with
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and go or, or do you, I, I
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would do that right in with the,
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uh, lrsp, uh, um, comprehensive
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safety action plan at that
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meeting, and we
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ll bring it up
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there and if we need to
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separate it out as a
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circulation as long as it comes
[2:07:24]
back, but my plan was during
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that meeting to do everything
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within the framework and
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understand that we need to
[2:07:30]
update any policies in the
[2:07:32]
current circulation element. Ok.
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Yeah.
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With the, did you wanna? Ok
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ok, yes, thank you. All right,
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so I
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m just gonna recap, um, if
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that is the motion that goes
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forward. So, um, I will work
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with staff. Obviously, the
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local road safety plan was
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adopted back in AUGUST of 2022.
[2:07:50]
Um, the comprehensive safety
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action plan was completed. It
[2:07:54]
was brought to, I want to say
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the mobility and traffic Safety
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Commission in either APRIL or
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MAY of 2025. Ok, yep, I got my
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dates right. Dan is signaling
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me. Um, so obviously one has
[2:08:03]
been done and adopted, another
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one has not been adopted by
[2:08:06]
council but has been finished.
[2:08:07]
So we will definitely bring
[2:08:09]
those forward so council can
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see those and then depending on
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what comes out of that, we MAY
[2:08:13]
have different asks because we
[2:08:14]
did have consultants work on
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both of those to let you know.
[2:08:18]
I can definitely work with um
[2:08:18]
Captain.
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And my finance team to look at
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different financing and yes,
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Mayor, it would be mid-year
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cause because we need to get
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through our audit as we
[2:08:27]
normally do and end of the year,
[2:08:28]
um, so we can do that. And then
[2:08:29]
as far as education, absolutely.
[2:08:32]
And one of the things is we
[2:08:33]
have additional funding, um, to
[2:08:35]
work on bike education, um,
[2:08:37]
with the MOUs with the schools,
[2:08:40]
um, they did not, um, take the
[2:08:40]
money. They didn
[2:08:41]
t want to
[2:08:42]
pursue the mou, so we do have
[2:08:43]
additional funding. So we are
[2:08:45]
going to use that for whether
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it
[2:08:46]
s driver education, bike
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education, absolutely we
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re
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gonna use that.
[2:08:49]
For that good as well. So I
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just wanted to circle that up
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if you guys make that.
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Ok.
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So I
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ll make that in the form
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of a motion and, uh.
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Second, I got a 2nd.
[2:09:01]
You need to read it back, I
[2:09:04]
think.
[2:09:04]
So it
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s to agendaize at a
[2:09:08]
future meeting to be determined
[2:09:09]
as I thought I heard around
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OCTOBER if possible, yeah, as
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soon as possible, as soon as
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possible, uh, the lsrp and the
[2:09:16]
csap to look at where we
[2:09:17]
re at
[2:09:19]
in new opportunities with that,
[2:09:20]
um, also to work city manager
[2:09:21]
to work with the sheriff
[2:09:23]
department.
[2:09:24]
To explore the feasibility of
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adding two deputies at the
[2:09:28]
mid-year budget.
[2:09:31]
Yeah, the need, the need the,
[2:09:33]
uh, um, logistics and funding
[2:09:35]
and funding, ok, and then also
[2:09:37]
to include an educational
[2:09:39]
component to that at a minimum
[2:09:42]
the, uh, uh, repeating the, the
[2:09:45]
city.
[2:09:47]
And Sheriff co-sponsored event
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and maybe even videotaping it
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so it
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s available.
[2:09:53]
To be spread far and wide.
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Can I add, uh, Amendment 2, can
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we include, uh,
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Writing a letter to approach
[2:10:02]
other cities in the county to
[2:10:03]
discuss entry points.
[2:10:05]
Absolutely. Ok.
[2:10:05]
We
[2:10:07]
ll include that as well. Ok,
[2:10:09]
so those are the, that
[2:10:09]
s the
[2:10:11]
motion and the 2nd, call the
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question.
[2:10:19]
That motion carries unanimously.
[2:10:24]
And with that we are adjourned
[2:10:26]
until 2:25 after or do we wanna
[2:10:26]
go to?
[2:10:27]
I, I know you guys, we
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ll go
[2:10:29]
till 6:30, so we
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ll be, we
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ll.
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Uh, come back at 6:30.