[0:11] He is going to give us our

[0:12] invocation and commissioner ball

[0:14] will lead us in the pledge of

[0:14] allegiance.

[0:17] If you would, please all stands.

[0:19] >> it's an honedder and

[0:20] privilege to be here ith you

[0:21] all this morning.

[0:23] It is good to give thanks to our

[0:24] lord.

[0:25] Let us pray.

[0:28] Good morning, dear lord.

[0:30] It's gratitude we gather this

[0:33] morning in your presence seeking

[0:34] your wisdom, seeking your

[0:36] understanding and your patients

[0:38] as deliberations are held and

[0:39] choices are made.

[0:42] And we reminded that we hold the

[0:43] unique position of leadership

[0:45] for which we do not take for

[0:47] granted but in all humility use

[0:49] and service o lift up all

[0:49] people.

[0:51] We ask you to guide us this day

[0:53] and May we find comfort and

[0:54] strength to your steadfast love

[0:56] and commitment to us and we ask

[0:58] you to bless all present here

[0:59] this morning.

[1:02] In your son's heavenly name,

[1:03] amen.

[1:04] >> please join me for the pledge

[1:05] of allegiance.

[1:07] >> I pledge the allegiance to

[1:10] the flag of the united states of

[1:11] america and to the republic for

[1:14] which it stands, one nation,

[1:16] under God, indivisible with

[1:21] liberty and justice for all.

[1:23] >> thank you.

[1:48] >> the first is the adoption of

[1:50] the minutes from the regular

[1:50] meeting.

[1:52] >> I make a motion.

[1:53] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[1:54] many

[1:57] motion, is there a second.

[2:01] Hearing none, all a

[2:02] approved by

[2:02] saying aye.

[2:04] >> next are the administration

[2:04] items.

[2:07] We have ba-1 through ba-3.

[2:09] Staff recommends approval of

[2:09] those items.

[2:10] >> so moved.

[2:11] >> second.

[2:11] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[2:15] and a second for items ba-1

[2:15] through 3.

[2:17] Any discussion or comments?

[2:18] Hearing none.

[2:21] I'll approve by saying aye.

[2:21] Aye.

[2:23] It's unanimous.

[2:26] >> next is archives and history.

[2:28] Bc-1 and bc-2.

[2:29] >> so moved.

[2:30] >> Chair Davis: we have a

[2:30] motion.

[2:31] >> second.

[2:32] >> motion and a second.

[2:34] Any discussion on these items?

[2:35] Hearing none.

[2:37] All in favor signify by saying

[2:38] aye.

[2:38] Aye.

[2:39] It's unanimous.

[2:42] >> next we have the baldwin

[2:43] regional area transit system.

[2:46] Two items, bb-1 and bb-2.

[2:48] Staff recommends approval of

[2:49] those two items.

[2:51] >> I'm trying to give

[2:53] commissioner gruber a chance.

[2:54] So moved.

[2:56] >> Chair Davis: we got a motion.

[2:59] Skip is going to second it.

[3:00] >> I'll second it.

[3:06] All in favor ay aye.

[3:07] Aye.

[3:08] Next is budget and purchasing.

[3:11] We have seven items, be-1

[3:14] through be7.

[3:15] Staff recommends approval.

[3:17] >> I make a motion e approve.

[3:18] >> Chair Davis: we have a

[3:18] motion.

[3:19] >> second.

[3:22] >> Chair Davis: and a second.

[3:23] Any discussion?

[3:24] About what we're laughing about

[3:25] is the chair cannot make a

[3:27] motion or a second.

[3:30] Everybody gets to try to jump in

[3:31] and y'all heard and please

[3:33] understand for our audience here

[3:37] particularly our young people,

[3:38] they have been vetted by our

[3:39] department heads and we've been

[3:42] brought in on various points of

[3:42] those.

[3:45] We're not rubber stamping

[3:46] anything, we're just moving

[3:47] things that are outine.

[3:48] Any discussion further on these

[3:50] if not, all in favor signify by

[3:52] saying aye.

[3:53] Aye.

[3:56] It's unanimous.

[4:02] >> we have bl-1.

[4:03] Staff recommends approval.

[4:04] >> Chair Davis: I got a motion

[4:06] and a second on environmental

[4:06] items.

[4:10] All in favor say aye.

[4:12] Aye.

[4:14] >> next we have 16 items for our

[4:15] how department.

[4:18] Staff recommends approval of

[4:19] those 16 items.

[4:21] >> I make a motion we approve.

[4:22] >> 2:00.

[4:23] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[4:24] and a second dealing with our

[4:25] highway item.

[4:27] Any further discussion?

[4:27] Hearing none.

[4:30] All in favor signify by saying

[4:31] aye.

[4:32] Aye.

[4:33] Unanimous.

[4:34] >> next we have seven items

[4:36] in-person he will.

[4:40] Bq-1 to bq-7, staff ecommends

[4:41] approval.

[4:43] >> I make a motion we approve

[4:46] be-1 through be-7.

[4:49] >> all right.

[4:52] >> that's bq-1 through q7.

[4:53] >> do we have a motion and a

[4:54] second.

[4:54] >> second.

[4:55] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[4:56] and a second.

[4:57] Any discussion?

[4:58] Hearing none, all in favor

[5:01] signify by saying aye.

[5:03] Aye.

[5:04] >> we have one tem that we

[5:05] discussed in the ork session

[5:07] and we'll bring it back to the

[5:09] regular eetings so no action is

[5:11] necessary on br-1.

[5:12] >> Chair Davis: all right.

[5:13] >> it brings us to presentation

[5:15] and we have a presentation under

[5:16] ca-1 which is the highway

[5:19] department fiscal year 2020

[5:21] year-end progress report.

[5:22] I believe Mr. Nunley is in the

[5:24] audience to present this

[5:27] presentation to he commission.

[5:29] >> thank you.

[5:30] >> thank you.

[5:31] So, obviously this is going to

[5:33] be our year-end presentation and

[5:36] of course, when we say year-end

[5:36] we're talking about up through

[5:39] the end of September of 2020

[5:40] because our ears run on

[5:42] physical years, which mean our

[5:43] budget years.

[5:47] So, we'll go ahead and get

[5:48] started.

[5:52] Our major goals in 2020 was to

[5:53] plan, construct, maintain roads,

[6:00] bridges and parks for the safe,

[6:02] efficient

[6:07] parks for the safetyand efficiently.

[6:08] It's shown the difference of

[6:15] what this county has gone from

[6:15] 2005 to 2020.

[6:18] Our miles of roads have

[6:20] increased and our bridges have

[6:24] increased dramatically.

[6:26] So this slide basically shows

[6:28] how our budget is formed and

[6:30] where the different funds come

[6:30] from.

[6:33] You can see 46% of our funds

[6:36] comes from gas-tax and 47% comes

[6:37] from intergovernmental which is

[6:41] the majority of that will be an

[6:42] ad valorem tax.

[6:44] The 5% is coming from fund

[6:45] balance which is basically just

[6:47] under runs of different projects

[6:49] from the previous year and other

[6:50] revenues going to be things like

[6:52] taxes and fees and stuff so it's

[6:56] a very small percentage.

[6:59] This slide shows a little bit of

[7:01] what the effect of covid had on

[7:03] us in 2020.

[7:08] Obviously we work off budgeted

[7:10] and when we schedule all our

[7:12] projects we're working budgeted

[7:13] funds and the actual funds

[7:15] collected throughout the year is

[7:16] what we have to actually spend

[7:19] and you can say the gas-tax that

[7:21] came n about seven cents below

[7:29] what was projected, the add va

[7:32] lorum was lower and the vehicle

[7:34] registration or gas-tax, six

[7:37] cents gas-tax and it came, the

[7:39] four cents came in low and the

[7:44] others came in about right.

[7:47] The six cents gas-tax is that

[7:49] rebuild alabama gas-tax act.

[7:50] We have a lot of discussion in

[7:52] the work session about grants.

[7:54] We're hopefully fixing to hire a

[7:56] grants coordinator.

[7:57] These are the different grants

[7:58] the highway department works

[7:58] with.

[8:01] There's quite a few of them.

[8:05] We got our eyes open for the

[8:06] different funding avenues.

[8:09] The first one is going to be

[8:10] restore, the second one is our

[8:12] federal aid or federal aid

[8:14] exchange fund and all these are

[8:15] going by acronyms.

[8:17] We have a tap or transportation

[8:20] alternative, the aid is

[8:23] accelerated innovative

[8:24] development.

[8:28] The a-trip project, go mesa,

[8:34] hsip, ewp, and we have the

[8:38] alabama-florida M.P.O., the

[8:39] craft fund, emergency repairs

[8:41] which are E.R. Funds and of

[8:43] course we have fema.

[8:45] How do grants work?

[8:48] If a project cost a million

[8:49] dollars, the grand that

[8:50] particular grants is going to

[8:53] fund about 80% and it will fund

[8:55] 800,000 and the county has to

[8:58] pitch in the other 20% which

[9:00] would be about 200,000 for a

[9:04] total of the 1 million-dollar

[9:04] grant.

[9:07] So this shows how we divide

[9:10] those funds up and 41% and the

[9:13] projects not taking maintenance

[9:14] and 15 in engineering and admin

[9:17] and 25% in the capital

[9:18] expenditures.

[9:20] First we'll breakdown what our

[9:20] projects are.

[9:22] Just from a management

[9:24] standpoint, we breakdown our

[9:25] projects into the six or eight

[9:28] different types, resurfacing,

[9:29] dirt road paving projects,

[9:31] bridge projects, new road,

[9:35] safety improvements, and park

[9:37] improvements, drainage

[9:37] improvements.

[9:39] We set goals at the beginning of

[9:42] the year and we do our best to

[9:43] stay on those goals and meet

[9:44] what our goals were.

[9:49] At the beginning of 2020, we set

[9:53] our goal to resurface and we

[9:58] completed with that and

[10:00] 8.69 miles and it was 90%

[10:00] complete.

[10:02] This is just a map of showing

[10:07] where those resurfacing projects

[10:07] were.

[10:12] Just a few pictures of what

[10:22] we've done and this is ferry

[10:23] road.

[10:26] if if you notice in the

[10:26] top-left.

[10:28] The rebuild alabama was up there

[10:30] and it was any time the projects

[10:33] were funded by a grant, that we

[10:37] applied for and got.

[10:38] There's a tab showing you what

[10:42] grant that was and it was reboot

[10:45] and and got.

[10:49] The next goal was our dirt road

[10:49] paving projects.

[10:53] Our goal was to pave 13.55 miles

[10:57] and we had a few things going on

[11:00] with covid and hurricane sally

[11:08] so we were only able to complete

[11:09] 28 of our goals.

[11:13] There's a few rojects gap

[11:26] weekly and north county road 27

[11:29] juniper street north.

[11:33] Miller lane.

[11:36] Poser road.

[11:37] Brewer road.

[11:42] And this is just a schedule of

[11:44] roads that were either -- that

[11:45] we've start that haven't been

[11:46] completed.

[11:49] You could see ben der, royal,

[11:55] they were all started as of

[11:55] 10-1-20.

[11:56] A couple of those have been

[12:00] completed since that day and

[12:02] specifically hug bee and the

[12:03] others, kings landing have not

[12:08] been started yet.

[12:10] As far as bring projects go.

[12:12] It was to complete four bridge

[12:13] projects and to begin

[12:14] construction on two and we were

[12:17] able to complete three and begin

[12:19] construction on two so we're

[12:22] about 83% on that goal.

[12:23] Couple of pictures of the

[12:27] bridges is going to be county

[12:40] road 9.

[12:43] >> this is county road 9.

[12:44] This is fred douger road.

[12:48] That bridge is in progress right

[12:49] now and should be completed

[12:52] within another month, month and

[12:52] a half.

[12:56] and this one is he whole prior

[12:57] is over bushy creek east and

[12:58] this one is also under

[13:03] construction as we speak.

[13:06] Len home road was in progress at

[13:08] the end of 2020's physical year

[13:15] but it actually is complete now.

[13:24] The next two are going to be.

[13:26] This is county road 65 bridge

[13:30] over turkey branch.

[13:32] And dock mack duffy road bridge

[13:33] over wolf creek.

[13:34] Both of those bridges are

[13:36] included in this grant and we

[13:37] let them both, the projects have

[13:40] been awarded and the contractor

[13:44] should be started soon.

[13:45] New road construction.

[13:47] Our goal was to secure funding

[13:51] begin right away and the beach

[13:53] express 2, that was all part of

[13:55] the bill that ended up not

[13:57] passing the vote.

[14:00] We are now looking for different

[14:00] avs

[14:03] avenues for sources since the

[14:05] vote did not pass.

[14:07] Our safety improvement projects.

[14:10] Our goal was to complete three

[14:11] projects and complete

[14:14] construction on tonight we were two.

[14:15] One project was under

[14:29] construction and one in design.

[14:30] This was a guardrail project and

[14:32] this again was another grant

[14:36] that we put in for high-risk,

[14:37] rural roads.

[14:40] We call it the hrrr grant.

[14:42] We were successful in getting

[14:44] those funds and updated our

[14:44] guardrails.

[14:48] This was martin lane, we widened

[14:50] it out.

[14:53] County road 65 we put up a

[14:54] four-way stop.

[14:55] We are able to put up a signal

[14:57] at county road 28.

[15:02] This was a joint effort with

[15:03] multi agencies.

[15:11] Between us and ummerdale and

[15:11] aldot.

[15:13] This is a signal south side of

[15:14] fairhope and this was funded

[15:18] through the eastern shore M.P.O.

[15:20] As far as capacity improvements,

[15:22] the goal was to begin design on

[15:24] one project and we have one in

[15:28] design and it's county road 64

[15:29] widening projects and it's one

[15:32] we have in design and it's

[15:33] widening 64 to three lanes all

[15:40] the way from 181 down to

[15:46] monalucia way.

[15:49] We had one site complete and one

[15:50] site under construction and one

[15:56] site got postponed.

[15:57] Drainage improvement was this

[15:59] one on county road 1.

[16:01] The pond on fernwood drive,

[16:04] which was a huge regional

[16:05] detention pond that as of the

[16:06] end of the physical year, it was

[16:10] not omplete but it actually is

[16:13] complete now.

[16:15] Park improvement projects, the

[16:16] goal was to complete

[16:18] construction on four projects.

[16:21] And we did all four of those.

[16:23] Those projects included the

[16:26] property acquisition of the

[16:30] inter coastal waterway boast

[16:32] launch under design and should

[16:35] let out to construction.

[16:40] We replaced the boardwalk at

[16:42] morgan town.

[16:46] We put some bathrooms at the

[16:48] bicentennial park.

[16:50] And these bridges, these

[16:52] pedestrian bridges on the

[16:55] on the scenic

[16:56] 98, four or five were in bad

[17:00] need of repair and we ere able

[17:03] to repair fly creek, red gully,

[17:08] rock creek and this is over an

[17:09] unmarked bridge.

[17:12] So from the maintenance acility

[17:13] standpoint, again, this makes up

[17:16] about 19% of our budgets and our

[17:17] maintenance facilities are

[17:20] broken down into three years.

[17:20] 100 in the.

[17:26] >> heather: and 200 in thenorth and 200 in the

[17:27] south and traffic covers the

[17:31] whole county.

[17:33] Our goals are processed timely

[17:37] and to ensure annual by annual

[17:39] inspections are performed on all

[17:39] roadways.

[17:41] You can see it was a busy year.

[17:44] We received 2,839 work orders

[17:49] and we were able to complete

[17:50] 2,648 of those.

[17:58] We inspected 176 dirt roads and

[17:58] 1,381 paved roads.

[17:59] Our nighttime inspections are

[18:01] done every year so we did not do

[18:05] those this year.

[18:08] This is just a breakdown of the

[18:09] areas and how many paved and

[18:12] dirt miles are in each one of

[18:17] the areas.

[18:20] This is a graph showing all 161

[18:21] maintained bridges we have in

[18:22] the county.

[18:25] We have 15 of those 161 that are

[18:27] posted and only one of them

[18:34] closed on trail 17.

[18:36] As far as a summary of what we

[18:38] do in maintenance, this is

[18:40] good summary of the maintenance

[18:40] projects.

[18:42] We completed 38 in 2020.

[18:46] We did 264 traffic studies and

[18:48] processed 27afm petitions.

[18:50] Our herbicide truck, do you to

[18:51] losing our certified herbicide

[18:53] sprayer and problems with the

[18:54] truck we weren't able to spray

[18:56] roads but we're actively working

[18:59] on getting those corrected.

[19:02] We maintain traffic signals, 77

[19:04] traffic signals.

[19:09] And we were able to strap

[19:13] 606 miles of lanes and maintain

[19:13] 17,000 signs.

[19:18] So when a work order comes in,

[19:20] our administrative ssistance

[19:22] log it in as a problem reported.

[19:23] They generate work orders.

[19:26] And they track that work order

[19:27] all the way through its

[19:31] completion and we can report on

[19:32] that and send e-mails out to

[19:35] those following that particular

[19:36] work order.

[19:40] We had 2,309 and in area 100,

[19:42] they completed 102% of those

[19:44] work orders called in.

[19:45] Basically it means that they had

[19:47] a few leftover from last year.

[19:52] They were able to complete those

[19:54] this year.

[19:56] Area 200 completed 91-point 9%

[20:03] of those and then area 300 was

[20:05] 87 and a half.

[20:07] We have do have special

[20:08] projects, maintenance special

[20:09] projects.

[20:10] These are our sidewalks, our

[20:14] parking lots, our

[20:17] emergency-related activities and

[20:20] we do other municipalities and

[20:21] we report on those and this is a

[20:23] graph showing that what we did

[20:26] through out the county, these

[20:27] things just pop up all through

[20:29] the year depending on our

[20:29] different needs.

[20:32] Bay minette airport resurfacing,

[20:38] we helped them with that.

[20:42] We helped an elementary school.

[20:44] We did a sidewalk on county road

[20:45] 1 through a grant that was

[20:47] called the transportation

[20:47] alternative program or called

[20:52] the tap grant.

[20:53] And we're also helping the town

[20:59] of alberta out with brain age drainage

[21:02] improvement and we maintained

[21:04] 24.4 acres of wetlands at our

[21:08] wetland mitigation bank in gulf

[21:08] shores.

[21:11] We had a couple of ada projects

[21:13] we did a lot of ada improvements

[21:17] on our sidewalks.

[21:20] And obviously from an emergency

[21:21] standpoint we had hurricane

[21:24] sally so I ust want to run

[21:25] through a couple of slides.

[21:28] How hurricane sal see effected

[21:29] us.

[21:31] This map right here is very

[21:31] interesting.

[21:32] This shows the amount of

[21:34] rainfall that happened in

[21:37] hurricane sally.

[21:40] Obviously, the top-left was

[21:41] lighter rain and when you move

[21:44] to the bottom right, it gets

[21:44] heavier.

[21:46] The heaviest rain will be in the

[21:50] white and light purple areas and

[21:54] if can you see these areas here,

[21:57] this area received up to

[21:59] 200-year storm event but then

[22:04] this rea right in there,

[22:06] received a 500 year storm.

[22:10] It was quite rain event.

[22:15] From a cost standpoint and what

[22:18] kind of work does sally generate

[22:19] from us.

[22:21] This is different category a.

[22:24] It's our debris clean up and the

[22:26] total cost -- all these that I'm

[22:30] fix to go run off here are all

[22:31] still in the works, they're not

[22:33] set in stone and these are

[22:35] estimated prices and it's

[22:39] $60 million worth of vegetative

[22:41] cnd picked up on the

[22:42] right-of-way.

[22:43] The highway department didn't

[22:47] take that and it was our solid

[22:50] waste department and and

[22:51] preventative measures basically

[22:53] just what we do in the front end

[23:04] to protect our citizens and we

[23:05] spent 685,000.

[23:07] The cat-6, there's four or five

[23:08] of those.

[23:11] We've broken those into paved

[23:12] road damage.

[23:13] Sidewalk and guardrails.

[23:17] We had one project at fernwood

[23:17] drive under construction that

[23:18] received a lot of damage in the

[23:21] amount of $201,000 of damage.

[23:23] Our signs got ravaged throughout

[23:24] the county.

[23:27] About $300,000 worth of damage

[23:29] on those.

[23:31] Our unpaved gravel roads got

[23:34] washed out and so we're asking

[23:36] fema to help us fund those in

[23:40] the amount of $530,000.

[23:40] Our cross drains got washed out

[23:42] in the amount of $6 million and

[23:45] again all these projects were

[23:47] working through fema to help us

[23:49] reimburse those -- these

[23:50] projects will be going on for

[23:54] over the next year.

[23:56] And then fema covers some

[23:58] roadways but they don't cover

[23:59] all roadways.

[24:00] Our ajor roadways are actually

[24:02] covered through he federal

[24:03] highway administration and we

[24:05] have to go through their process

[24:06] as well and we had about a

[24:07] million dollars worth of damage

[24:10] on those and we'll work through

[24:12] fswa to get that money refunded

[24:13] as well.

[24:15] Our parks received about

[24:16] $864,000 worth of damage for a

[24:19] total of $96.6 million of

[24:25] estimated cost that hurricane

[24:26] sally destowed upon us.

[24:33] It was quite the storm.

[24:35] From a budget standpoint, we'll

[24:37] go down to engineering and

[24:38] administration activities.

[24:40] Again, we break this down into

[24:41] different departments.

[24:45] We have our pre-construction

[24:45] department.

[24:47] Our construction engineering

[24:48] which does all of our inspection

[24:51] and construction projects and

[24:54] our bridges and they actually

[24:57] also help inspect and permit

[24:59] subdivisions.

[25:00] Our geo-spacial operations and

[25:03] our admins.

[25:05] So, from a design standpoint,

[25:08] the goal was to resurface and

[25:10] complete design on four groups.

[25:13] We actually did five.

[25:15] And if you remember the

[25:16] commission gave me another

[25:18] million ollars because asphalt

[25:20] prices were dropping due to

[25:23] covid and we took advantage of

[25:24] that and get a few more roads

[25:27] paved at a better price.

[25:30] The bridge projects our goal was

[25:31] to complete design on three

[25:37] projects and we did that.

[25:39] Our goal was to complete design

[25:40] on four and we were able to do

[25:42] three with one n the progress

[25:45] and our drainage improvement

[25:46] projects was to complete design

[25:50] on one project and we did that.

[25:54] In design, we also have the park

[25:55] improvement projects.

[25:56] Our goal was to complete design

[26:02] on three and we accomplished

[26:02] that.

[26:04] We were able to introduce three

[26:05] special design projects and

[26:08] throw are in progress.

[26:11] The biggest part of all that I

[26:13] just was going over in our

[26:16] design section, the biggest

[26:17] hurdle we have to jump is

[26:19] actually to acquire the

[26:22] right-of-way for those projects.

[26:22] It takes a lot of time, it takes

[26:26] a lot of effort and man hour and

[26:27] one-on-one conversations and

[26:29] meetings and obviously covid has

[26:31] hurt that a lot.

[26:34] So, this slide is very important

[26:35] because all those funded

[26:37] projects that y'all funded and

[26:41] asked me to do required us to

[26:43] acquire about 59 right-of-way

[26:43] tracks.

[26:45] 50 of those right-of-way tracks

[26:46] were acquired and

[26:49] acquired and my department

[26:52] got 43 of those 50 donated,

[26:57] which was huge.

[26:58] So, our right-of-way department

[26:59] also works on projects that are

[27:01] not funded.

[27:01] Projects that we're scheduling

[27:03] for next year.

[27:05] and those projects, obviously

[27:10] we're trying to get right-of-way

[27:11] there and they've been

[27:12] identified and we're working on

[27:15] and that goal was to acquire 46

[27:16] right-of-way tracks.

[27:18] They were able to get 29 of

[27:21] those and all 29 of those were

[27:23] donated.

[27:27] Pre construction engineering.

[27:29] This is a summary.

[27:31] Projects that were in design and

[27:34] environmental permits were

[27:36] seven, special requests was 69.

[27:40] The right-of-way department

[27:40] continuously receives requests

[27:42] for research on what

[27:44] right-of-way we own.

[27:48] They received 852 requests this

[27:50] past year.

[27:52] The tracks were 79 in total.

[27:53] Right-of-way vacations processed

[27:56] were six and the deeds prepared

[27:58] were 102.

[28:01] From a construction engineering

[28:03] standpoint, again, this is our

[28:04] guides that inspect the

[28:06] construction projects are going

[28:07] on.

[28:11] They were able to inspect 61

[28:12] projects.

[28:14] Inspect 86 different

[28:17] subdivisions and I'm sorry,

[28:19] permit 86 different subdivision

[28:22] and process 46 commercial

[28:24] turnouts and 29 license

[28:27] agreements and 320 utility

[28:27] permits.

[28:29] We have a geo special operations

[28:33] which includes our surveyor.

[28:36] This is been a vision of mine

[28:37] with the department is to try to

[28:39] get a good data and inventory of

[28:40] everything we have on the road

[28:43] from a geo special standpoint.

[28:48] As you can see, we have 100%

[28:51] complete on our survey to G.I.S.

[28:54] Except for maintenance and 100%

[28:55] complete on our functional

[28:56] assessment and the others are

[29:02] still in progress.

[29:06] As far as apital expend

[29:07] expenditures,

[29:09] these are the funds that y'all

[29:12] have allocated to buy equipment

[29:15] and other things like equipment

[29:15] barns.

[29:19] You can see we've bought motor

[29:21] graders, bulldozers, sweepers,

[29:24] flat bed trucks, regular

[29:25] vehicles.

[29:26] We were able to construct an

[29:31] area of 200 equipment barn.

[29:32] Area 300 equipment barn.

[29:34] Traffic operations equipment

[29:34] barn.

[29:37] Couple of message boards.

[29:40] And that is some of our G.I.S.

[29:41] Equipment survey.

[29:45] From a budget standpoint, we

[29:49] budgeted right at a less less

[29:51] than 5.7 mill.

[29:52] Our actual spent on that was

[29:54] just a little over 5.6 for an

[29:58] under run of $76,000.

[30:00] For our motor vehicles, which is

[30:03] our smaller vehicles, we

[30:05] budgeted 552,000 and we spent

[30:07] 553,000 for an under run of

[30:07] about 18,000.

[30:11] From a building standpoint, this

[30:12] looks a lip lopsided because our

[30:13] buildings are not started yet.

[30:15] Y'all have actually helped fund

[30:17] two new maintenance facilities,

[30:19] one in area 100 and one in 200.

[30:20] These were under designed at

[30:23] this time and they're fixing to

[30:26] be let out -- one of them is

[30:27] advertising now and the other

[30:28] soon.

[30:29] The money sitting there and we

[30:30] just haven't spent it yet

[30:36] because we're fixing to start

[30:37] construction.

[30:38] On the other small items, we

[30:40] were under run those a little

[30:42] over a thousand dollars.

[30:46] So the challenge that's we faced

[30:48] for '20, was obviously hurricane

[30:52] sally and covid.

[30:56] Our work hours, our lost

[30:58] productivity from our work

[31:00] hours, I just went become and

[31:03] compared from '19 to fiscal year

[31:04] '20 and it's shocking because I

[31:06] thought it would be a bigger

[31:08] number but it was only 4.4% less

[31:11] when you looked at just the man

[31:12] hours that we're actually

[31:12] working.

[31:14] But, it doesn't tell the whole

[31:14] story.

[31:16] And the reason it doesn't it

[31:17] because we have the on the job

[31:19] loss of productivity.

[31:22] The time loss cleaning and

[31:24] disinfecting always and

[31:25] equipment.

[31:26] We can only put one person in a

[31:28] vehicle at a time for a long

[31:28] time.

[31:30] The huge thing was we had no

[31:31] inmate labor.

[31:33] If inmates were not there

[31:34] working, someone has to be doing

[31:36] what they weren't doing.

[31:38] Our guys that normally were

[31:39] doing other things had to be

[31:41] doing what they were doing.

[31:42] There was no really good way for

[31:44] me to calculate that.

[31:48] The loss of productivity was the

[31:50] biggest one.

[31:52] Looking ahead, goals and

[31:54] challenges for 2021, obviously

[31:57] we had a strategic plan now that

[31:59] y'all have directed us and

[31:59] adopted.

[32:00] Some of those strategic plans

[32:02] which you have directed the

[32:03] highway department to do is

[32:04] 2022.

[32:06] The residents will expect a

[32:07] well-plan set of new and

[32:09] improved roads for local travel

[32:15] that will alleviate traffic.

[32:17] By 2025-2027 they will

[32:20] experience reduced congestion

[32:22] and by 2022 the community will

[32:23] experience the reduction and run

[32:25] off and flooding through the

[32:28] implementation of regional

[32:31] retention systems for

[32:31] stormwater.

[32:33] Again, we have the same projects

[32:34] types we broken down.

[32:38] Our goal this year was to

[32:47] resurface 63.24 miles, pave 5.19 miles, with go mesa funds

[32:49] and pave another 1.8 with county

[32:52] funds and that 1.8 of county

[32:55] funds was hugby road and we

[32:58] finished that one up so that is

[33:05] completed.

[33:10] We begin onstruction on four

[33:11] bridge replacement projects.

[33:12] Safety improvements.

[33:14] We have three improvement

[33:16] projects complete and begin

[33:17] construction on three.

[33:19] These are goals that we're going

[33:22] to report on this time next

[33:23] year.

[33:25] Capacity improvements was one

[33:26] capacity mprovement project and

[33:28] design and it's our county road

[33:29] 64.

[33:30] We don't hink it will be let

[33:31] the to construction but it

[33:34] should be getting close.

[33:35] Drainage improvement was to

[33:38] complete construction of two

[33:41] drainage improvement projects

[33:42] and begin on one park

[33:43] improvement project and it's

[33:47] going to be what we are calling

[33:51] the icw boat launch.

[33:53] We also have the lillian boat

[33:56] launch projects that was funded

[33:57] through a restore council that

[33:58] was another grant we were

[34:01] successful in getting.

[34:07] This project is the study is

[34:07] underway.

[34:09] We're orking through dcnr to

[34:13] get that scope approved.

[34:15] This one got a little

[34:16] complicated because it got

[34:18] damage from hurricane sally and

[34:20] we have a restore grant

[34:21] repairing some of the stuff and

[34:23] fema repairing other stuff so

[34:25] it's going to get a little

[34:26] complicated on us.

[34:29] But there's nothing we can't

[34:32] handle.

[34:32] Maintenance activities.

[34:34] It was to ensure all citizen

[34:36] request and work orders are

[34:38] processed timely and ensure by

[34:42] annual inspections on ll

[34:43] roadways.

[34:45] Our geo-spacial uy set new

[34:48] goals to complete the cross

[34:48] inventory.

[34:50] The road sign inventory and

[34:51] develop and complete damage

[34:52] assessment database that will be

[34:54] huge for the next storm event

[34:55] that comes.

[34:56] And to continue improvement in

[35:01] training for G.I.S. Staff and

[35:03] integrate develop existing

[35:04] datasets and munis.

[35:06] Special rojects, was to

[35:09] complete four and have two in

[35:10] design.

[35:13] From a design standpoint, we're

[35:16] going to complete design on

[35:19] three groups of resurfacing

[35:21] projects, six bridges and one in

[35:23] design.

[35:24] New road construction was to

[35:26] complete design on two projects

[35:28] and to complete design on four.

[35:29] Park projects was to complete

[35:32] design on one project and begin

[35:33] design on two.

[35:34] Special projects was to complete

[35:38] design on six projects.

[35:40] This is one of the safety

[35:42] improvement projects in design

[35:42] already.

[35:44] This is county road 13

[35:55] roundabout at 44.

[35:57] Acquired 132 right-of-way

[35:57] tracks.

[36:00] You can see we've broken down

[36:03] for project type.

[36:04] And then the challenges for

[36:07] physical year 2021, obviously

[36:08] we're a growing county.

[36:09] This is 50% population growth

[36:13] just for the state of alabama.

[36:15] From 1960 to 2019.

[36:17] And if you compare that to what

[36:18] we've seen in baldwin county, we

[36:23] have seen a 354% growth rate.

[36:25] So that's obviously challenges.

[36:27] What are those challenges

[36:28] creating?

[36:30] This is just a graph of our

[36:31] annual resurfacing cost.

[36:33] As you can see, the background

[36:36] if you would, the one in gray,

[36:38] is represents what we should be

[36:39] recycling about every 12 years.

[36:45] If we maintain 100 -- if we

[36:48] maintain 1,381 miles of paved

[36:49] roads and that number stays

[36:51] consist apartment we should be

[36:54] doing 115 miles a year to

[37:04] recycle every one of those roads we're

[37:16] not doing that, this little area

[37:17] scheer what we did not get

[37:20] accomplished due to covid and

[37:23] salary and this is what we're

[37:28] project today do in 2021.

[37:34] We still maintain 176 miles of

[37:35] dirt roads.

[37:41] It takes $150,000 per mile to

[37:41] pave a dirt road.

[37:43] The commission funded

[37:45] $2.2 million in 2020, which was

[37:47] huge, if e did it, if we wanted

[37:49] to get rid of ll of them in 10

[37:52] years, we would be need to be

[37:53] doing $2.6 million a year for a

[37:54] total of $26 million total to

[37:56] get rid of all the dirt roads

[38:02] that we maintained in 10 years.

[38:05] So one of goals for our

[38:06] strategic plan was about

[38:08] capacity improvement.

[38:09] I've identified just a few of

[38:12] the big projects that we need to

[38:13] concentrate on.

[38:16] One was obviously the extend the

[38:17] baldwin beach express from 10 to

[38:18] 65.

[38:19] we're rying to find funding

[38:20] sources for that.

[38:23] Extend county road 68 from

[38:25] bohemian call to county road 48

[38:27] and industrial drive, up here

[38:29] near the mega site.

[38:31] Additional lane from 64 from

[38:34] state route 181 o 54 which is

[38:35] actually in design right now so

[38:37] that one is on going.

[38:40] Extend county road 65 from 28 to

[38:44] 32, which was partially funded

[38:44] in 2020.

[38:46] We're working on that.

[38:48] Extend county road 20 to 65

[38:49] which was partially funded in 20

[38:51] so we're working on that one and

[38:54] of course widen 95 from ish

[38:56] trap road to U.S. 98.

[38:59] It's quite a bit of money there,

[39:01] $226 million total for capacity

[39:04] improvements.

[39:06] This slide rit here is probably

[39:07] one of the better slides of the

[39:09] whole presentation.

[39:11] So this is 9 bridges under

[39:14] construction or funded and this

[39:15] was huge.

[39:20] Just going from top, I mean,

[39:33] you've got fred douger road and

[39:35] and we have both bridges on

[39:36] country road 34 being designed

[39:38] now.

[39:38] That's $7.9 million that the

[39:40] commission is actually funded

[39:41] for construction and that is

[39:42] huge.

[39:43] I don't know that we've ever had

[39:45] that much bridge activity going

[39:48] on in my tenure.

[39:53] So that's kudos to y'all.

[39:55] We still have eight bridges that

[39:56] are posted.

[39:59] And you can see some of them get

[39:59] pricy.

[40:02] This one is over 32 at fish

[40:08] river is around 10 million.

[40:10] That is my presentation.

[40:11] If y'all have any questions,

[40:13] I'll be happy to answer.

[40:15] >> on the, I know you got some

[40:19] looking into the future, what is

[40:24] going on with the green energy,

[40:28] the fossil fuel, trying cut back

[40:32] on them.

[40:34] We're seeing gas prices up and

[40:36] we're going to see asphalt go

[40:37] up.

[40:38] It's going to add a big cost to

[40:38] us.

[40:41] >> when the asphalt index goes

[40:42] up, which is what you are

[40:44] referring to, it effecting

[40:46] everything we do from buying

[40:49] fuel for our equipment to buying

[40:52] asphalt, because obviously it's

[40:56] made -- the asphalt index takes

[40:58] it to make asphalt so the price

[40:59] of everything can go up.

[41:01] Which is why we went ahead and

[41:03] the commission felt the need to

[41:04] go ahead and do that million

[41:06] dollars worth of resurfacing

[41:08] last year to take advantage of

[41:10] the low asphalt index price.

[41:12] >> I think it's going to be

[41:16] something we'll have to put up

[41:16] with.

[41:19] >> so, you said we had 15 posted

[41:21] bridges but we still have eight

[41:23] more that haven't been budgeted

[41:23] yet.

[41:27] So the ones that are funded and

[41:30] under construction, those ther

[41:33] seven are included in that?

[41:35] >> you said we have 15 posted

[41:36] bridges, now that means that

[41:38] there's a sign on there that

[41:39] says only o much weight can go

[41:40] over that bridge.

[41:41] That's what a posted means,

[41:42] correct.

[41:43] >> that's correct.

[41:45] >> you said we have eight more

[41:46] that need improvement.

[41:50] All those all posted those eight

[41:55] and then the others are under

[41:55] construction.

[41:58] We are addressing a big majority

[41:59] or alf of the posted bridges

[42:00] with what is under construction

[42:02] and what is funded now, right?

[42:06] >> absolutely.

[42:09] I should have explained.

[42:12] The as

[42:22] as --

[42:25] >> do you want the 32 bridges

[42:29] are (Inaudible).

[42:30] >> it is.

[42:32] It's the biggest bridge in the

[42:34] county and the one of the haller

[42:36] bridges in the county and right

[42:38] away is confined and it's going

[42:40] to be a task to replace that.

[42:43] >> there's no place to acquire

[42:44] anymore right-of-way because of

[42:45] the house that's are built

[42:46] there?

[42:47] >> on the west-end, yes.

[42:49] >> how much longer do you think

[42:51] that bridge, just a ballpark,

[42:53] before we really have to do

[42:54] something to that bridge?

[42:57] >> we've actually -- it's a

[42:57] steel gerder bridge.

[43:00] We painted that bridge probably

[43:03] about eight or 10 years ago to

[43:04] extend the life of it.

[43:08] I mean, I don't see us replacing

[43:08] it.

[43:11] I mean, if I felt a funding

[43:12] opportunity or a grant

[43:13] opportunity was there for me to

[43:17] get the 10 or 12 million-dollar

[43:18] that will be needed to have that

[43:19] thing and it only cost us a

[43:22] million or two, I

[43:24] I would replace

[43:24] it tomorrow.

[43:26] If the county had to come up

[43:28] with the $10 million to replace

[43:31] it, 10 years down the road.

[43:32] >> kick the can down the road

[43:35] and hopefully some type of grant

[43:36] opportunity will present itself.

[43:37] >> ok.

[43:39] >> I've submitted that projects

[43:40] for a couple of grants but I'm

[43:41] not successful.

[43:42] >> keep asking.

[43:44] >> that's right.

[43:46] >> one thing about the drainage.

[43:49] The project that we had on

[43:51] fernwood, I just want to commend

[43:52] those folks.

[43:55] You know, I don't know exactly

[43:58] the yards they moved but they

[44:02] dug 11 acres of ground and I

[44:03] think I was talking to rex and

[44:07] he has put over 1,000 and

[44:10] 1,000 hours on

[44:11] his machine just digging for the

[44:13] track itself.

[44:15] That's a lot of hours.

[44:18] You know, they did a fantastic

[44:18] job.

[44:19] >> they did.

[44:21] >> they did a great job.

[44:23] And that's going to be a really

[44:24] big help to that whole region

[44:26] down there, especially the

[44:27] sunrise subdivision.

[44:32] >> I just want to commend them.

[44:35] That was a her tech

[44:39] hectic project.

[44:40] They didn't have a place to go

[44:42] so they had to get rid of the

[44:42] water, first.

[44:49] To continue on.

[44:49] >> thank you for putting this

[44:51] together for us.

[44:52] It's an honor and privilege to

[44:54] be part of such a good part of

[44:57] this program here that shows our

[44:57] progress.

[44:58] Even in the midst of the storm

[44:59] and all that stuff.

[45:02] I mean, we still covered a lot

[45:02] of ground.

[45:04] I'm very proud of you and your

[45:05] staff.

[45:07] Everything that y'all

[45:08] accomplished.

[45:09] Like joe says, sometimes we're

[45:11] just a small part of this.

[45:15] Y'all do all the work and I

[45:17] can't express gratitude for

[45:17] this.

[45:18] Thank you so much.

[45:23] >> I can't do it without you

[45:24] guys.

[45:25] >> Chair Davis: I've told you

[45:26] this before and I'm going to say

[45:27] it in front these young people

[45:28] and anyone watch particular

[45:31] later on, we're

[45:37] ing it later on.We're blessed to have team

[45:38] members.

[45:39] You have people at the top, in

[45:40] the middle and down on the

[45:41] ground.

[45:42] I'm telling you, he is a rock

[45:44] star and he akes things happen

[45:46] and he makes us look good.

[45:48] If things were going ideways,

[45:50] he gets in our ear right away so

[45:52] we can elp him figure out an

[45:52] answer.

[45:54] Things rarely go sideways

[45:55] because he has, remember, all

[45:56] the big things happen because

[45:58] all the little things come into

[45:58] play.

[46:00] And if there's ever a

[46:01] department, that has to have it

[46:04] just right, it is your highway

[46:05] department.

[46:07] Building new roads are easy.

[46:08] Repairing an existing road with

[46:10] traffic on it and all the things

[46:13] that it involves, and s skip

[46:14] mentioned stormwater run off,

[46:15] just because you get it off of

[46:17] this spot, you've got to know

[46:18] where it's going.

[46:20] And joey, I want to tell you

[46:21] again how much I personally

[46:24] appreciate being a small part of

[46:26] this team.

[46:29] >> thank you,.

[46:29] >> Chair Davis: thank you.

[46:31] >> the picture that y'all see on

[46:32] that screen right there is from

[46:34] joey's picture he has hanging in

[46:39] his office and I'm jealous of.

[46:40] That's a roundabout.

[46:42] It's not a city far off.

[46:43] It's a roundabout.

[46:46] That's one in fairhope, right?

[46:47] >> yes.

[46:49] that's fairhope avenue and 13

[46:52] and actually, matthew brown

[46:53] actually took that picture at

[46:56] night with a drawing.

[46:57] Kudos to atthew.

[46:59] >> there you go.

[47:00] Like I told you, it's a team.

[47:01] And we all jump in.

[47:04] Thank you, matthew for that as

[47:04] well.

[47:06] Let's move on to the next topic,

[47:07] please.

[47:09] >> Mr. Chairman, next are the

[47:09] public hearings.

[47:10] We have three of those.

[47:13] And the first public hearing is

[47:17] a rezoning case, case z-21003.

[47:22] The garlet property rezoning.

[47:23] >> Chair Davis: we need to open

[47:24] this public hearing at this

[47:24] point.

[47:25] >> yes, sir.

[47:26] >> Chair Davis: very good.

[47:27] We're open to the public hearing

[47:29] on the case just described.

[47:30] Yes, ma'am.

[47:31] >> all right, this is a request

[47:33] to rezone a little over half an

[47:37] acre from rsf-1, single family.

[47:40] And rsf-2 to ra to allow for a

[47:42] home occupation.

[47:46] The subject property is located

[47:49] on boykin boulevard in planning

[47:49] district 22.

[47:51] As you can see, there's two

[47:53] single family zonings on the

[47:54] subject property but the

[47:57] applicant is requesting ra in

[47:59] order to have a home occupation

[48:02] to run a small deer processing

[48:06] business out of the home.

[48:09] This is an aerial photographer

[48:10] the subject property.

[48:12] There's a home on the property.

[48:15] And that is where the applicant

[48:17] plans to do his deer processing

[48:22] in his home.

[48:23] Here is a picture of the subject

[48:25] property in his home, where he

[48:26] plans to do it.

[48:30] this is a survey.

[48:32] The applicant, if the property

[48:34] is rezoned to ra, he will have

[48:39] to apply for a home occupation.

[48:41] The home occupation requirements

[48:43] for rural areas is confined to

[48:46] the principle building are an

[48:47] accessory structure located on

[48:49] the same lot at principle

[48:49] building.

[48:53] No display of products shall e

[48:54] visible from the street and only

[48:57] articles on the premises May be

[48:58] sold.

[48:59] The role of home occupation must

[49:01] be carried on solely by family

[49:03] members and no person outside

[49:04] the family May be employed on

[49:08] the premises.

[49:09] Staff has recommended approval.

[49:12] The planning commission also

[49:16] recommended approval at heir

[49:16] meeting.

[49:19] It was 6-0.

[49:23] We did receive quite a few

[49:24] letters and e-mails in

[49:26] opposition of this.

[49:27] We did eceive a couple from

[49:30] nearby that were in favor of it.

[49:35] The planning ommission didn't

[49:35] recommend approval.

[49:39] >> Chair Davis: thank you,

[49:40] ma'am, wayne, do we have anyone

[49:41] to signed up to speak.

[49:42] >> we have several.

[49:43] The first person et to speak on

[49:50] this item is sherry scarborough.

[49:52] >> wayne, can I ask you a

[49:57] question, is the applicant here?

[49:58] >> yes.

[50:01] The applicant can go first.

[50:02] >> Chair Davis: come to the

[50:03] podium and state your name and

[50:09] the topic, please.

[50:12] >> how y'all, I'm josh, this is

[50:15] my property.

[50:17] And pretty much what she

[50:18] explained is correct.

[50:20] We're locking to start a small

[50:23] deer processing business in our

[50:25] home which, like she also said,

[50:27] with it being the home

[50:30] occupation, there will be no

[50:32] signs of there even being a

[50:34] business there from the street,

[50:35] whatsoever.

[50:37] Just so y'all understand what

[50:39] deer processing is, in our mind,

[50:41] because apparently a lot of

[50:44] people think otherwise.

[50:48] This is turning pre cut deer

[50:51] meet into burgers, steaks,

[50:51] sausages.

[50:54] This is not dragging whole deer

[50:56] in, gutting them, leaving

[50:56] carcasses around.

[50:58] Nothing like that.

[51:02] So it's just a small family,

[51:04] friends who will be processing

[51:07] for and it will just be me and

[51:08] my wife.

[51:09] >> so people are going to bring

[51:12] you a cooler full of pre cut

[51:13] meat and you are going to turn

[51:14] it into what they want.

[51:15] >> that's correct.

[51:17] >> no one is going to bring you

[51:19] a deer to skin or clean.

[51:19] >> that's correct.

[51:20] Also, I'm sure it will get

[51:23] brought up, because the game

[51:26] warden has been set out to my

[51:28] house once and reported doing

[51:30] illegal deer processing

[51:31] operation.

[51:33] Which he found there's not true.

[51:36] He actually gave me his number

[51:38] and card nd told me if I needed

[51:40] anything from him, to call him

[51:44] and let him know.

[51:45] Also, what I was going to say

[51:47] about the illegal stuff, if the

[51:50] meat comes from florida, or any

[51:53] other state, it has to be only

[51:53] meat.

[51:56] There's no bone, no skull, no

[51:59] type of carcasses whatsoever is

[52:00] allowed into the state of

[52:05] alabama from any other state.

[52:06] Because of the C.W.D.

[52:07] you have to keep records of all

[52:08] of this.

[52:09] There's a public hunting

[52:11] property just down from my house

[52:13] where you have access to hunt on

[52:17] forever wild land.

[52:18] The game warden is there all the

[52:18] time.

[52:20] When he stopped by, he checked

[52:22] and let us know what we have to

[52:22] have.

[52:24] You have to have a confirmation

[52:27] number for each deer that's

[52:27] brought into you.

[52:28] It shows who killed the deer,

[52:31] where it was killed at and all

[52:34] that paperwork has to be with

[52:37] the meat the entire time.

[52:38] So there's no real way of

[52:40] getting around that.

[52:41] And also, something else that

[52:45] would be brought up is that me

[52:47] changing to rural agriculture,

[52:49] there's going to bring down

[52:54] other people's property values.

[52:56] I don't see that can happen.

[52:57] The map out there just shows my

[53:00] property and a couple besides

[53:01] us.

[53:04] My property is this lot right

[53:04] here.

[53:06] Every bit of this on our street

[53:08] is rural agriculture.

[53:11] Everything that is green -- how

[53:13] could my one ittle piece right

[53:17] here change any difference from

[53:19] all that?

[53:20] Pretty much that's all we have.

[53:24] I mean, I won't go into all the

[53:24] negatives.

[53:27] I know there's a petition and

[53:28] there's stuff that's been said

[53:30] that isn't true.

[53:33] In first in the letter that was

[53:35] sent to you all, stating that

[53:40] the first meeting we had that I

[53:42] spoke and it says Mr. Garlock

[53:45] spoke at the meeting legally

[53:46] after his question and answer

[53:47] session it should have never

[53:50] been approved to even present to

[53:53] the commissioners.

[53:58] Mr. Garlock admitted he

[54:01] discarded the deer meat in a

[54:02] garbage can provided by baldwin

[54:04] county solid waste on tuesday's.

[54:07] Which this is illegal.

[54:08] Completely untrue.

[54:10] I don't know if y'all watch the

[54:11] meeting that we had last one

[54:13] where I got up and spoke and

[54:13] everything.

[54:16] I've watched it five or six

[54:17] times.

[54:18] Nowhere in there -- there was

[54:20] only one person that mentioned

[54:22] garbage pick up and that was one

[54:25] of the people that was opposed

[54:26] that spoke.

[54:32] So I had not said anything about

[54:32] that.

[54:33] That's about it.

[54:34] If you have any questions or

[54:37] what not, I can answer them.

[54:43] >> I have a question for you.

[54:44] So, I understand a little bit

[54:46] about deer processing.

[54:48] I didn't have those

[54:48] misconceptions.

[54:50] I do have a question, you are

[54:52] allowed to do your own personal

[54:53] deer processing in your house if

[54:54] you want to.

[54:56] It's just that you are seeking

[54:59] this because you want to form a

[55:00] business or were you already

[55:01] doing this as a business and

[55:03] then found that you were not in

[55:04] compliance?

[55:05] That's my question.

[55:06] >> I haven't done it as a

[55:07] business.

[55:09] I have done it for friends and

[55:09] family.

[55:10] I do process my own deer meat.

[55:12] I've been doing it my entire

[55:12] life.

[55:14] >> and that's perfectly legal.

[55:17] >> if I wanted to process say 15

[55:19] of my friends, they all had deer

[55:23] that were taken up to big-name

[55:27] places paying $400 to get them

[55:28] processed when can I do it for

[55:30] half price or what not, there in

[55:34] the house, why not.

[55:35] No, I haven't been operating as

[55:36] a business.

[55:37] What I'm doing right now is

[55:43] trying to do the legal, right,

[55:43] process.

[55:44] >> that was a question and I'm

[55:48] trying to figure out how you got

[55:51] to this point of want to go

[55:54] rezone because if you want to

[55:56] rezone to a rural agriculture,

[55:58] even though I realize rural

[55:59] agriculture is surrounding you

[56:04] on one side, or a big portion, a

[56:06] half acre is not generally

[56:07] considered rural agriculture so

[56:11] it just sparked me that, you

[56:14] know, this was the measure that

[56:16] was suggested or that you

[56:18] requested in order to do this.

[56:21] I think of rural agriculture is

[56:22] bigger parcels of property.

[56:24] Even though you might be

[56:26] connected, I mean, do you own

[56:27] any of the other --

[56:28] >> I don't own any of that.

[56:30] There are smaller lots on the

[56:34] road here that are smaller than

[56:36] mine hat are rural agriculture.

[56:40] The rural agriculture bill was

[56:41] suggested to me.

[56:43] When I went to zoning, we called

[56:45] around trying to find out ex low

[56:46] what

[56:50] exactly what we needed to do.

[56:53] I don't want to keep giving you

[56:53] your opportunity.

[56:55] What I'm saying, is probably the

[56:57] ones that are smaller lots,

[56:59] those were probably when the

[57:01] zoning came no

[57:03] came into place, that was

[57:05] the exiting use so they didn't

[57:06] rezone it to residential.

[57:08] I'm just trying to get this in

[57:09] my mind.

[57:17] i don't really have in anymore

[57:18] questions.

[57:18] The Chairman Can control the

[57:20] number of minutes that llow

[57:22] people to peak I don't to get

[57:25] the public hearing too lengthy.

[57:26] >> yes, ma'am.

[57:27] That was recommended to me by

[57:28] the planning and zoning.

[57:30] When we alled around trying to

[57:31] ask hat we need today do to

[57:33] make everything legal, we sat

[57:34] down and they really didn't know

[57:35] what to do.

[57:36] They went through the books and

[57:38] we sat there for an hour or so

[57:40] and they said they didn't have

[57:41] any real request so what they

[57:44] came up with was to rezone to

[57:45] rural agriculture to have the

[57:50] home occupation.

[57:51] >> skip, do you have any

[57:52] questions or comments?

[57:52] >> no.

[57:54] >> all right.

[57:54] >> jeb.

[57:57] >> o, sir.

[57:58] Jurisdiction let me ask you

[57:58] something, I'm from

[58:04] >> Chair Davis: let me ask you,I'm from the country and we've

[58:05] killed a couple of eer and we

[58:07] have them on the back of a

[58:07] truck.

[58:09] We don't have them ready and we

[58:10] pull up to your house.

[58:12] What would you tell us?

[58:13] Where would you send us so we

[58:18] wouldn't get you in trouble with

[58:18] what you are proposing?

[58:18] >> I would probably recommend

[58:21] that you took it back to the

[58:24] property that it came from.

[58:27] Normally, when deer hunters have

[58:29] property, they have hat you

[58:30] call a gut pile.

[58:31] They clean their deer at the

[58:33] camp and they discard of the

[58:34] bones.

[58:36] The carcass and guts in the

[58:38] woods and nature takes care of

[58:38] that.

[58:40] And you bring out the meat.

[58:42] If you will check around, most

[58:45] other places, there's too much

[58:47] so lose for having -- you really

[58:48] can't do the whole carcass.

[58:50] It's not worth it to make a few

[58:52] extra bucks to have that -- like

[58:53] you say, I would have to take

[58:55] care of it and do something with

[58:57] it and if I don't own property,

[58:59] I'm taking that carcass to a

[59:00] different piece of property

[59:01] where it came from.

[59:04] That's what I would recommend.

[59:05] >> Chair Davis: so you have a

[59:07] system or a protocol that would

[59:08] address that should it happen?

[59:09] >> yes, sir.

[59:11] I mean, I wouldn't --

[59:13] >> I think people will know

[59:15] before they came to you, because

[59:16] these places around here, they

[59:21] can only bring the meat.

[59:26] He is not going to advertise it

[59:27] jurisdiction someone would have

[59:28] to told

[59:32] advertising.

[59:33] >> Chair Davis: one last

[59:34] question.

[59:35] From this process.

[59:37] Based on what you will receive,

[59:39] what sort of disposal, what

[59:42] would be involved in the garbage

[59:45] or he refuge that would be

[59:48] leftover and that you would

[59:50] encloud in your garbage pick up.

[59:51] >> the garbage, we talked to

[59:53] baldwin county solid waste and

[59:56] there is a special container

[59:57] that they will bring to you for

[59:58] having this.

[59:59] If there is, which it was

[1:00:01] brought up in the other meeting

[1:00:04] also, about being meat disposed,

[1:00:07] there's going to be a few

[1:00:09] pieces, we've contacted the zoo

[1:00:11] and the zoo takes stuff like

[1:00:11] that.

[1:00:13] You can bag it, freeze it and

[1:00:16] put it in the cooler and keep

[1:00:16] it.

[1:00:19] Take it and donate to the zoo.

[1:00:19] >> Chair Davis: very good.

[1:00:22] Those were things that were

[1:00:24] expressed to me and things that

[1:00:25] I wanted to give you an

[1:00:26] opportunity to share with

[1:00:27] everyone.

[1:00:27] I appreciate that.

[1:00:28] >> yes, sir.

[1:00:29] Thank you.

[1:00:30] >> Chair Davis: thank you.

[1:00:32] >> the next speaker signed up is

[1:00:44] lauren garlock.

[1:00:53] >> next speaker is gale beach.

[1:00:55] >> as a community, we are very

[1:00:56] opposed to this.

[1:00:57] Y'all have received numerous

[1:00:58] e-mails from the community and

[1:01:02] we also did a petition and

[1:01:04] you've gotten over 85 signatures

[1:01:06] that we are definitely opposed

[1:01:06] to this.

[1:01:07] And the reason why we feel like

[1:01:12] it will bring our property

[1:01:13] values down.

[1:01:14] You know, it just opens

[1:01:14] pandora's box.

[1:01:16] If we allow this to happen, then

[1:01:18] maybe two months down the road,

[1:01:19] someone is going to come to you

[1:01:23] and say hey, I want to open up a

[1:01:25] business and I want to work on

[1:01:26] used cars.

[1:01:27] And so then we're going to have

[1:01:28] that.

[1:01:29] Would you want that in your

[1:01:30] community or your neighborhood?

[1:01:34] I don't think so.

[1:01:36] Regarding josh, and I'm going to

[1:01:38] call him josh instead of

[1:01:39] Mr. Garlock, it has nothing to

[1:01:40] do with him.

[1:01:41] He is a great guy.

[1:01:42] We love him.

[1:01:46] We just want him to do it in a

[1:01:47] business.

[1:01:49] He can go up on 98 and open up a

[1:01:50] business there and do it.

[1:01:53] i'm sure everyone would support

[1:01:53] him.

[1:01:55] Regarding, I think it was

[1:01:57] suzanne wells, when she spoke at

[1:02:00] the last meeting, she did ask

[1:02:02] josh and I could have swore I

[1:02:05] heard him say, I put it in the

[1:02:07] garbage can with the waste

[1:02:10] products.

[1:02:10] Well, then we called Mr. Ed fox,

[1:02:13] he is the director with the

[1:02:14] solid waste, and he said you

[1:02:16] know, you can absolutely not do

[1:02:17] that.

[1:02:20] He has to have a commercial bin

[1:02:23] out there to dispose of the

[1:02:24] waste.

[1:02:26] And then we went ahead and we

[1:02:29] have no hronic wasting disease

[1:02:31] in the state of alabama.

[1:02:34] That's what a deer gets in a

[1:02:37] human terms that's kind of like

[1:02:38] mad cow disease.

[1:02:40] And so, the deer, in the state

[1:02:44] of alabama, we do not have that

[1:02:45] yet.

[1:02:47] It's guarded and protected and

[1:02:51] the deer are tagged and

[1:02:51] everything.

[1:02:53] However, they have been noted to

[1:02:55] be 25 miles outside of alabama

[1:02:56] in mississippi.

[1:02:58] And so, f I'm not mistaken, at

[1:03:02] the last meeting, josh said that

[1:03:05] he and his buddies go over to

[1:03:06] florida, they take the deer

[1:03:08] apart and they bring back the

[1:03:11] parts and clean it.

[1:03:12] Well, it is against the rules, I

[1:03:15] mean, you cannot transport a

[1:03:18] deer from one state to another

[1:03:19] state.

[1:03:19] That's illegal.

[1:03:21] And maybe we'll do it all from

[1:03:23] clark county or whatever, we

[1:03:27] cannot do it from florida or any

[1:03:28] other state.

[1:03:30] >> you can transport the meat.

[1:03:32] You just can't transport the

[1:03:37] skeleton and bone marrow.

[1:03:38] meat can be transported back.

[1:03:40] >> well, this information came,

[1:03:42] I mean, we did a lot of

[1:03:43] research.

[1:03:44] >> meat doesn't have chronic

[1:03:47] waste and disease, it's within

[1:03:48] the bone marrow and that's why

[1:03:49] people that kill these deer, and

[1:03:53] they want to bring back the big

[1:03:54] head mounts and all that stuff,

[1:03:57] they can't do it.

[1:03:58] It has to be dried out.

[1:04:00] Just cutting the meat off, I

[1:04:01] don't know if there's anybody

[1:04:02] here that can speak to that.

[1:04:04] >> well, let me just tell you,

[1:04:07] with chronic wasting disease, a

[1:04:10] deer appears normal and they do

[1:04:13] not show any sign of disease for

[1:04:16] two months to two years.

[1:04:17] So, the only way you are going

[1:04:19] to know if it has chronic

[1:04:21] wasting disease, is to

[1:04:23] to

[1:04:25] to biopsy

[1:04:26] that brain.

[1:04:27] You don't know if this is an

[1:04:29] infected deer or not.

[1:04:32] That is the reason why I will

[1:04:34] find and give it to you where we

[1:04:37] found that information about

[1:04:38] crossing state lines.

[1:04:42] And it says, any part of the

[1:04:44] deer.

[1:04:48] And then, let's see.

[1:04:50] It was referencing the

[1:04:52] guidelines posted in outdoor

[1:04:53] alabama, that's where we got

[1:04:55] this information.

[1:04:57] I had that at the house but I

[1:04:58] didn't bring t I

[1:05:01] it, but I will get

[1:05:02] it to you.

[1:05:03] We would just like he request in

[1:05:06] do this in a more suitable area.

[1:05:08] My question to you, would you

[1:05:11] like it in your neighborhood?

[1:05:14] That's all I have.

[1:05:15] We're worried about it bringing

[1:05:17] down the property value.

[1:05:21] he said that he was not growing

[1:05:22] with the poem

[1:05:25] people moving in and

[1:05:26] building million dollar homes.

[1:05:26] It's coming.

[1:05:30] Like at 98 and all the

[1:05:30] subdivisions they're plan to go

[1:05:31] build on 98.

[1:05:33] We're going to talk about four

[1:05:34] laning 98.

[1:05:36] I mean, lillian say little bitty

[1:05:39] area down there that is out of

[1:05:41] the way no one in baldwin county

[1:05:45] thinks about it but the ones

[1:05:46] that live there we want to be a

[1:05:50] part of that community.

[1:05:53] Where very opposed and there's

[1:05:55] 85 signatures, they came from 99

[1:05:55] north.

[1:05:58] Which is our side of --

[1:06:00] everybody thinks bout lillian,

[1:06:02] the cove, well, there's another

[1:06:06] section over there also.

[1:06:09] You've got to have a solid waste

[1:06:10] container to put that residual

[1:06:16] of the deer in and it's

[1:06:16] .53 acres.

[1:06:20] How is that going to look in the

[1:06:21] neighborhood?

[1:06:23] We're very opposed to this.

[1:06:23] >> Chair Davis: ok.

[1:06:27] We need to adhere where we can.

[1:06:29] Are you ready to wrap-up your

[1:06:29] comments?

[1:06:30] >> yes, sir.

[1:06:31] Unless anyone has any questions.

[1:06:33] >> Chair Davis: are there any

[1:06:33] questions or comments?

[1:06:35] If not we appreciate you coming

[1:06:37] forward and providing us with

[1:06:38] this information.

[1:06:38] Thank you, ma'am.

[1:06:40] >> thank you, sir.

[1:06:42] >> are there others to speak.

[1:06:52] >> next Mrs. Sherry scarborough.

[1:06:54] >> Chair Davis: let the record

[1:06:57] reflect, she was not first, ok.

[1:06:58] >> I don't like to go first.

[1:07:02] Good morning, everyone.

[1:07:08] I also live on boykin boulevard.

[1:07:11] josh, I know exactly where your

[1:07:14] house is.

[1:07:15] I normally would not have any

[1:07:17] problem with this whatsoever,

[1:07:19] except for your concern.

[1:07:22] I don't think you have enough

[1:07:22] property.

[1:07:24] If you had an acre, a full acre,

[1:07:26] two acres, I would say go for it

[1:07:29] and I would tell people about

[1:07:31] your processing place and send

[1:07:32] business to you.

[1:07:35] You don't have enough room.

[1:07:37] You are wedged in there between

[1:07:38] your mom's property and your

[1:07:42] house that you grew up in and

[1:07:42] that's just it.

[1:07:44] You did

[1:07:46] don't have enough place.

[1:07:47] If this is allowed, there's

[1:08:07] going to be other businesses --

[1:08:09] if you bring a deer that's been

[1:08:16] shot in clark county, you would

[1:08:17] tell them to take it back where

[1:08:20] they shot it and field dress it

[1:08:21] out.

[1:08:21] No, they're not going to do

[1:08:22] that.

[1:08:25] They're going to go on

[1:08:26] on he

[1:08:28] avenue where there's deer dumped

[1:08:30] this year and my property is

[1:08:34] right in front of forever wide,

[1:08:37] which goes down oak street and

[1:08:38] opens up into forever wild.

[1:08:41] That's where they get deer

[1:08:42] carcasses have been this year.

[1:08:44] I'm not saying they came and did

[1:08:47] that and brought it to josh, I'm

[1:08:48] just saying that we've already

[1:08:52] had people dumping illegally

[1:08:56] deer carcasses right there on

[1:08:58] rester off, in my backyard

[1:08:59] practically.

[1:09:00] I'm just saying there's a

[1:09:04] possibility that this would

[1:09:05] increase the illegal deer

[1:09:06] carcasses.

[1:09:08] This is not the place for this

[1:09:08] business.

[1:09:14] it really is not.

[1:09:16] I wish whoa find a larger place.

[1:09:19] This looks like rester back

[1:09:19] there.

[1:09:20] I don't know.

[1:09:21] I don't know what the zoning it

[1:09:23] on the street behind us but this

[1:09:26] where josh is now, it's not the

[1:09:26] place.

[1:09:28] I don't think because he is just

[1:09:31] doesn't have enough area.

[1:09:32] I just don't think this is where

[1:09:34] it needs to be and this is all I

[1:09:35] have to say.

[1:09:35] >> Chair Davis: all right.

[1:09:36] Any questions or comments?

[1:09:40] Thank you.

[1:09:41] Ma'am.

[1:09:44] Next speaker is carl.

[1:09:48] He is coming from the outside.

[1:09:53] >> Chair Davis: here he comes.

[1:09:56] >> if you would, carl, confine

[1:09:58] your comments to three minutes

[1:10:02] and I'll give you thumbs up when --

[1:10:04] >> I'm not a big speaker.

[1:10:05] >> Chair Davis: go ahead we need

[1:10:07] to hear your message.

[1:10:13] >> I live on boykin boulevard

[1:10:15] and I'm appalled him in this

[1:10:15] position.

[1:10:20] I didn't think we would get this

[1:10:20] far.

[1:10:22] As far as I'm concerned, call it

[1:10:25] what you will, you know.

[1:10:28] You want to call it deer

[1:10:31] processing or call it

[1:10:32] slaughterhouse?

[1:10:33] I don't know.

[1:10:35] I can't corral the deer to get

[1:10:39] them over to his place so he can

[1:10:39] process them.

[1:10:42] Just short of that, we got a

[1:10:43] problem here finding where this

[1:10:46] is going to be one.

[1:10:47] The whole process.

[1:10:48] The whole process.

[1:10:50] Not the processing house.

[1:10:51] The whole process.

[1:10:57] Other people brought that up.

[1:10:59] I don't know, messing around

[1:11:03] with virtually wet markets, I

[1:11:04] mean, that's why we're all

[1:11:07] wearing masks, right.

[1:11:10] We believe that somehow this

[1:11:13] animal thing and people, you

[1:11:13] know.

[1:11:15] You get what ou have.

[1:11:21] Swine flu and now some kind of

[1:11:23] mad cow disease or mad deer

[1:11:23] disease.

[1:11:23] I don't know.

[1:11:30] I don't know about that.

[1:11:37] >> Ches Crosbie: opposed to thisi am

[1:11:37] opposed.

[1:11:54] It will drop the property value,

[1:11:56] .

[1:11:57] I'm not going to use your time

[1:11:59] but thank you.

[1:12:00] >> Chair Davis: got any

[1:12:01] questions?

[1:12:02] We appreciate your input.

[1:12:05] Thank you, sir.

[1:12:07] >> the last speaker we have

[1:12:12] signed up is jerry key.

[1:12:19] >> Chair Davis: Mr. Key.

[1:12:22] >> I'm jerry key from lillian.

[1:12:24] I live right next door to josh

[1:12:27] and I'm his stepfather.

[1:12:29] I am a commercial fisherman by

[1:12:30] trade.

[1:12:32] I have a small business right

[1:12:33] there out of my house.

[1:12:35] Which is the same thing that my

[1:12:37] dad did and his dad and his dad

[1:12:41] for over 200 years in lillian.

[1:12:44] Lillian is named after my great

[1:12:45] aunt.

[1:12:46] My family has run just a small

[1:12:48] family business like that.

[1:12:51] Like I said, for over 200 years.

[1:12:56] I don't see a problem at all.

[1:12:57] I'm sure with the waste and

[1:12:59] smell it can't be worse than the

[1:13:03] fisherman, whatever he does

[1:13:06] there.

[1:13:07] I just don't know why he can't

[1:13:09] have a little business when all

[1:13:15] the people now that are

[1:13:16] complaining is they're worried

[1:13:17] about money.

[1:13:18] they're worried about property

[1:13:18] values.

[1:13:22] Some have eight and 10 locks

[1:13:26] down there and and that's an

[1:13:26] at-home business.

[1:13:28] They you are working out of

[1:13:30] their houses and buying property

[1:13:31] and selling it.

[1:13:32] They're making money.

[1:13:37] Good, I'm glad for them.

[1:13:39] I did have a problem when people

[1:13:41] would tell omeone, especially a

[1:13:43] young man, he can't try to

[1:13:45] better himself and do something.

[1:13:47] It's the same thing that's been

[1:13:48] going on for generations.

[1:13:50] Over 10 generations of my

[1:13:50] family.

[1:13:52] They have saw any kind of work

[1:13:54] there around lillian, they

[1:13:56] guided fishing, hunting, they

[1:13:58] did farming and whatever they

[1:14:02] could do to make a dollar.

[1:14:04] As far as processes, my

[1:14:05] grandfather always talked about

[1:14:08] when they would go out and catch

[1:14:09] mullet and salt them and put

[1:14:11] them on a train and send them to

[1:14:12] new york many of that was a

[1:14:16] little at-home business.

[1:14:17] That's what yan is

[1:14:21] lillian is really

[1:14:22] about.

[1:14:23] >> your property is o the right

[1:14:26] or to the left of the subject

[1:14:26] property?

[1:14:28] >> to the right.

[1:14:31] >> so, that property is rsf-2,

[1:14:35] is that correct?

[1:14:37] It says rsf-1.

[1:14:39] >> were you operating this

[1:14:40] business prior to zoning?

[1:14:42] So your grandfathered in under

[1:14:44] that so that if you were to just

[1:14:47] now start your business, it

[1:14:50] would not e not in compliance?

[1:14:51] As long as you continue that

[1:14:54] business, you can continue it on

[1:14:55] and on.

[1:14:57] If you were to cease doing what

[1:14:58] you are doing, you wouldn't

[1:15:00] be -- am I speaking correctly

[1:15:06] from zoning perspective.

[1:15:07] You asked the question, why

[1:15:08] can't he start a business

[1:15:09] because he is not grandfathered

[1:15:11] in and he is in a residential

[1:15:12] area.

[1:15:13] That's the only comment that I

[1:15:17] wanted to make sure that it was

[1:15:17] understood.

[1:15:19] Really and truly, the use of the

[1:15:21] property is not the main concern

[1:15:22] right now.

[1:15:24] It's the question is, you are

[1:15:26] asking to rezone.

[1:15:28] So that's a erious issue when

[1:15:29] you got other areas in that.

[1:15:32] I mean, I understand concerns

[1:15:33] but there's any number of things

[1:15:35] that you can do at a home

[1:15:37] business besides deer processing

[1:15:39] that might not be agreeable or

[1:15:40] disagree able so I don't want to

[1:15:41] continue the public hearing on

[1:15:41] and on.

[1:15:44] I just wanted ask if you were

[1:15:54] doing that prior to zoning.

[1:15:57] >> I didn't know about zoning, I

[1:15:57] just learned about it.

[1:16:02] >> Chair Davis: thank you, sir.

[1:16:03] >> do you have a letter that was

[1:16:10] in your addendum packet for this

[1:16:11] item.

[1:16:12] >> I want today clarify

[1:16:13] something.

[1:16:14] Reading from the same article

[1:16:19] which part of it is cited in the

[1:16:55] letter.

[1:16:58] >> deer meat that is dezoned,

[1:17:00] clean skull plates with attached

[1:17:02] antler if no brain or spinal

[1:17:04] cord tissue present, raw capes

[1:17:07] if no visible or spinal cord

[1:17:10] present, upper canine teeth in

[1:17:12] no root structure or other soft

[1:17:13] tissue is present and finished

[1:17:15] tax a

[1:17:20] taxi and they are illegal in

[1:17:22] alabama unless they're part of

[1:17:26] the is finished taxidermi.

[1:17:28] The statement it's illegal to

[1:17:32] transport deer meat into the

[1:17:36] state of alabama is false.

[1:17:36] >> Chair Davis: ok.

[1:17:37] Anything else we need to do.

[1:17:38] >> there's no one else signed up

[1:17:40] to speak.

[1:17:41] I don't know if anyone didn't

[1:17:42] sign up.

[1:17:44] That's all official speaker

[1:17:45] we've had signed up.

[1:17:49] >> I didn't sign up.

[1:17:49] >> Chair Davis: come to the

[1:17:51] podium and give us your name,

[1:17:52] please.

[1:17:54] So we can have it on the

[1:17:56] official records.

[1:17:59] >> my name is mary joe conlee

[1:18:02] and I live on boykin boulevard.

[1:18:03] I'm are not concerned about he

[1:18:05] meat processing in his kitchen,

[1:18:07] which he said he was going to

[1:18:07] do.

[1:18:09] I'm concerned about the

[1:18:10] rezoning.

[1:18:12] He built that house a little

[1:18:14] less than a -- around a year

[1:18:15] ago.

[1:18:16] Knowing if he was already doing

[1:18:18] this meat processing, that he

[1:18:21] would be building in a

[1:18:22] residential lot.

[1:18:23] Why didn't he go out and build

[1:18:26] in the country where

[1:18:30] where -- in a

[1:18:31] rural area already.

[1:18:36] His step dad, I'm sorry,

[1:18:37] Mr. Key, he has been doing that

[1:18:38] business and it's been

[1:18:40] profitable, I'm sure, and it's

[1:18:43] very non noticeable.

[1:18:45] He doesn't have people coming

[1:18:46] there all the time.

[1:18:51] I'm just curious, I've never

[1:18:52] been able to cut all the meat

[1:18:55] off of a bone at my farm and

[1:18:59] take it to loxley to get

[1:18:59] process.

[1:19:01] Those bones are coming to your

[1:19:03] kitchen and it's not bout the

[1:19:05] meat, it's about the rezoning.

[1:19:08] He knew he was building a house

[1:19:09] there, and it was residential

[1:19:11] when he built.

[1:19:13] And he stated ast month that he

[1:19:18] had been doing this for years.

[1:19:20] Go somewhere where you can

[1:19:21] legally do it.

[1:19:23] If you wanted to be a business.

[1:19:24] Thank you.

[1:19:32] >> thank you, ma'am.

[1:19:34] >> Chair Davis: you are a team.

[1:19:37] Do you both need to speak?

[1:19:43] >> I just wanted to --

[1:19:44] >> I just want to address this

[1:19:46] comment that was made bout me

[1:19:47] building a house.

[1:20:04] It's been there for two years.

[1:20:05] Most of the people that spoke to

[1:20:07] you haven't lived in lillian for

[1:20:09] 40 years, their whole life.

[1:20:12] They're coming rom other

[1:20:12] places.

[1:20:15] And also on the pet

[1:20:16] petition, a lot

[1:20:19] of those are south of 98.

[1:20:20] It's not even in our

[1:20:22] neighborhood and there's one on

[1:20:23] there for daphne.

[1:20:24] >> Chair Davis: thank you.

[1:20:26] >> I have one quick question.

[1:20:28] What's the time period that you

[1:20:30] do the processing?

[1:20:34] Is it from the beginning of deer

[1:20:36] season to the end of deer

[1:20:36] season.

[1:20:43] >> it would be for three months.

[1:20:45] >> how do you rent a place for

[1:20:47] $2,000 month when you make

[1:20:49] $2,000 over a three-month

[1:20:50] period.

[1:20:51] It's not a big commercial

[1:20:51] business.

[1:20:53] If it does do good, if it ends

[1:20:55] up a lot of people like it and

[1:20:57] they come, I will move.

[1:21:00] I will move out to 98.

[1:21:02] You've got to be realistic with

[1:21:03] it.

[1:21:03] >> Chair Davis: any other

[1:21:04] questions or comments.

[1:21:14] Thank you, sir.

[1:21:15] Identify yourself, please.

[1:21:18] >> I'm lauren, josh's wife.

[1:21:21] And just one other thing, we

[1:21:23] finally it donned on us why it's

[1:21:26] going to be rezoned because when

[1:21:29] we went through this home

[1:21:30] occupation conditions, which

[1:21:33] like josh said, we talked to the

[1:21:33] zoning people for a while, they

[1:21:35] had to go through the books to

[1:21:38] find out, I made him call around

[1:21:40] to see how to do it legally to

[1:21:41] take money for it.

[1:21:43] We got to every department in

[1:21:49] alabama and with the zoning.

[1:21:51] If it's in a residential

[1:21:52] district, then, it says the area

[1:21:54] used for the home occupation

[1:21:58] shall not exceed 20% of the

[1:21:58] gross floor area.

[1:21:59] Of the principle building and

[1:22:02] then if it's a home occupation

[1:22:06] in rural district, there's no

[1:22:09] 20% so I guess if he told the

[1:22:11] zoning people that we were going

[1:22:12] to do it in a building, if we're

[1:22:14] going to build garage or

[1:22:15] whatever.

[1:22:16] He was taken in account the size

[1:22:17] of the building maybe and I

[1:22:19] think that's the only reason

[1:22:25] that this came up.

[1:22:30] So, to get it rezoned, it's a

[1:22:31] special condition.

[1:22:32] It's under the three acres.

[1:22:35] It says in the papers September

[1:22:36] to us from

[1:22:41] sent fromrezoning, if approved, the

[1:22:42] applicant must apply for home

[1:22:44] occupation application and so

[1:22:47] all those rules would apply to

[1:22:47] us.

[1:22:49] It's not opening a whole bunch

[1:22:50] of other people trying to rezone

[1:22:52] to rural agriculture is what I

[1:22:53] would think.

[1:22:58] I just wanted to answer those

[1:22:59] questions.

[1:23:03] >> the length of time, is that

[1:23:04] considered in the thing as being

[1:23:09] an occupational thing for three

[1:23:12] months?

[1:23:12] That's the question.

[1:23:14] >> the home occupations you have

[1:23:15] two types.

[1:23:18] You have the ones for

[1:23:18] residential and someone does

[1:23:20] taxes out of their house but you

[1:23:21] can't have people coming and

[1:23:23] going to your premises, that's

[1:23:24] one of the criteria.

[1:23:29] When you get to the ra-type home

[1:23:31] occupations it's more expanded

[1:23:33] and you do more things because

[1:23:42] you've got property that is less

[1:23:43] developed.

[1:23:45] >> does three months constitute

[1:23:48] a home occupation?

[1:23:51] >> so, from my opinion, as a

[1:23:54] former lanner, home occupation

[1:23:55] is home occupation whether it's

[1:23:57] one or 12 months.

[1:23:59] The use exist, when it exists.

[1:24:01] >> it's the comings and goings

[1:24:03] of people and different things

[1:24:04] like that.

[1:24:06] Like you are saying, can you

[1:24:07] literally never ever see clients

[1:24:10] and just be in your house.

[1:24:13] You could take a home

[1:24:14] occupation, you know.

[1:24:15] You've got cottage

[1:24:18] cottage kitchens.

[1:24:19] Big issue is you are requesting

[1:24:21] rezoning more than anything and

[1:24:26] that's what I wanted to stress.

[1:24:28] To me, this is an anti deer

[1:24:29] processing thing.

[1:24:37] I eat deer meat.

[1:24:40] My husband goes out of the state

[1:24:42] and kill an elk.

[1:24:45] He had to bring it home and just

[1:24:49] the meat.

[1:24:50] It's the fact you are asking us

[1:24:52] to rezone a piece of property

[1:24:53] that's only half of what you

[1:24:55] need to even be rule

[1:24:56] agriculture.

[1:24:58] So, I'm looking at the rezoning

[1:25:00] more than I am -- it's not about

[1:25:01] what you are doing.

[1:25:04] Some of things that have been

[1:25:05] said, some are not nice, maybe

[1:25:07] not kind or any of that kind of

[1:25:07] stuff.

[1:25:08] It's not about that.

[1:25:11] It's about should this piece of

[1:25:12] property remain what it is or

[1:25:14] should it be rezoned to what you

[1:25:20] are asking it to be.

[1:25:20] >> thank you.

[1:25:22] >> let me pose reference here.

[1:25:25] You came up with a rezoning, or

[1:25:27] you were advise today do this

[1:25:28] way?

[1:25:29] >> we were advised by the

[1:25:31] planing and zoning comment to do

[1:25:31] this.

[1:25:33] >> that's my point.

[1:25:35] >> thank you.

[1:25:37] >> people that work for us.

[1:25:38] >> ok.

[1:25:39] Anyone else?

[1:25:40] >> no, sir.

[1:25:42] >> anyone else in the audience

[1:25:44] that feels compelled to reach

[1:25:45] out and say something.

[1:25:49] >> we're back.

[1:25:58] Come on.

[1:25:59] >> please address the chair.

[1:26:02] >> it has nothing to do with

[1:26:03] income.

[1:26:05] Wealthy people versus anyone

[1:26:05] else.

[1:26:07] It has nothing to do with that.

[1:26:14] It is simply the only problem is

[1:26:15] the place is not big enough.

[1:26:21] It is not.

[1:26:22] >> Chair Davis: this is the

[1:26:23] point you made earlier.

[1:26:24] If you have new information,

[1:26:25] please share it.

[1:26:26] Otherwise we need to move on.

[1:26:27] >> let's move on.

[1:26:28] >> we have a question.

[1:26:34] >> I got a uestion for you.

[1:26:36] Tell me, in your thought

[1:26:39] process, what does not big

[1:26:42] enough mean?

[1:26:45] >> this property, at point

[1:26:46] 53 acres.

[1:26:47] >> all he has to have is a shed.

[1:26:49] You got a shed, right.

[1:26:51] Or a facility?

[1:26:52] >> he had said he is doing it in

[1:26:53] his house.

[1:26:54] >> he is doing in his house.

[1:26:57] >> he planned on doing this in

[1:26:57] his house.

[1:27:00] He is been doing this by his own

[1:27:02] admission for several years or

[1:27:06] prior to building on this lot.

[1:27:08] >> I'm talking about in his new

[1:27:09] house right now.

[1:27:10] He is going to be doing

[1:27:14] processing inside his new house.

[1:27:14] I don't understand how come

[1:27:16] that's not ig enough?

[1:27:18] He is performing a business

[1:27:19] inside is house.

[1:27:23] He has got to get this done so

[1:27:24] the planning department

[1:27:26] recommended he get it so he

[1:27:27] doesn't get in trouble by

[1:27:29] selling and taking goods and

[1:27:30] services and I don't see it

[1:27:38] being a huge business.

[1:27:40] >> where we're getting crossed a

[1:27:43] little bit and it's just a

[1:27:43] misunderstanding.

[1:27:45] The request to rezone to rule

[1:27:47] agriculture and there's a

[1:27:50] minimum size which is 40,000

[1:27:55] square feet.53 would on be

[1:27:58] about 20,000 square feet.

[1:28:02] That was that was the reference.

[1:28:04] >> they got bad advice from our

[1:28:05] employers to go forward with

[1:28:06] this?

[1:28:07] Is that what you are saying?

[1:28:07] >> yes.

[1:28:09] >> I did not say that.

[1:28:10] >> Chair Davis: well, that's

[1:28:10] what it sounded like.

[1:28:12] >> so when people come into the

[1:28:13] planning department, I've been

[1:28:14] doing this for 27 years, they

[1:28:16] say I want to do this and how do

[1:28:16] I do it.

[1:28:18] I don't think the staff will

[1:28:19] say, go out there and

[1:28:21] aggressively tell people, can

[1:28:24] you do it this way and that way.

[1:28:26] Let us help you understand what

[1:28:27] the rules are and if you want to

[1:28:29] do this, this is how you are

[1:28:31] going to need to do it.

[1:28:32] I don't think we're out there

[1:28:34] telling people what to do.

[1:28:36] >> I feel like we've got a good

[1:28:37] planning department in place,

[1:28:39] not only did our staff approve

[1:28:42] this, it went for board of a

[1:28:45] commission where it was a

[1:28:47] unanimous decision for the

[1:28:48] applicant.

[1:28:49] At any time, the people that

[1:28:50] we're speak north opposition of

[1:28:52] this at that planning zones I

[1:28:54] watched it.

[1:29:00] It didn't sway the minds of the

[1:29:02] it didn't change the minds.

[1:29:04] Both have recommended approval.

[1:29:05] Usually you would see a planning

[1:29:07] commission vote one or two vote

[1:29:09] no and you can go back and ask,

[1:29:11] why did you vote o on this and

[1:29:12] just explain.

[1:29:13] I do it with all of them.

[1:29:14] If I see someone that votes no,

[1:29:17] I say why did you vote no on

[1:29:18] this, just to get their side of

[1:29:18] the story.

[1:29:22] In this case, usually with a 6-0

[1:29:26] vote down the middle of for the

[1:29:27] applicant, our planning

[1:29:29] department said it's good to go.

[1:29:30] I don't know why.

[1:29:32] We still center to vote on it.

[1:29:34] I don't know why we're

[1:29:36] questioning it.

[1:29:41] >> Chair Davis: are we ray' to ready to

[1:29:41] close.

[1:29:43] >> of a comment.

[1:29:45] When they stayed with us for a

[1:29:46] while we recommended ra because

[1:29:48] the deer processing we felt was

[1:29:52] more like an agricultural than a

[1:29:53] residential use.

[1:30:02] Being a smaller lot, we hadn't

[1:30:04] had an issue with asking for a

[1:30:07] restoning because it's a lot of

[1:30:08] work.

[1:30:09] It's been that way for a while.

[1:30:10] That's were we recommended the

[1:30:14] ra and the home object

[1:30:14] precipitation.

[1:30:15] We can close the public hearing.

[1:30:16] We can ask her questions in our

[1:30:17] regular meeting.

[1:30:18] >> is there anyone else that

[1:30:22] needs to speak under the public

[1:30:22] hearing?

[1:30:24] Seeing or hearing none.

[1:30:26] Public hearing is closed.

[1:30:27] We'll have discussion leading up

[1:30:30] to a vote relative to this

[1:30:30] project.

[1:30:33] >> I have a question for selena.

[1:30:35] This is not in any effort

[1:30:39] whatsoever to make you guys look

[1:30:40] bad or anything.

[1:30:42] When it's a lot of record I

[1:30:43] understand they will not always

[1:30:47] be in the same specifications

[1:30:50] but when we're asking for a

[1:30:54] rezoning, it's something that I

[1:30:58] look for.

[1:31:00] To say there was a mistake made,

[1:31:02] it was not my intentions at all.

[1:31:03] Because I did not say that. I

[1:31:06] was just saying that I don't

[1:31:07] feel like when you are asked to

[1:31:09] rezone something, versus it

[1:31:12] being a lot of record, that you

[1:31:14] need to steer from the

[1:31:17] requirements as much.

[1:31:20] So, it's just from years of

[1:31:24] dealing with these situations

[1:31:26] and being on, not as a

[1:31:27] commission but as a planning

[1:31:30] commissioner for 22 years.

[1:31:33] It's something that I've learned

[1:31:34] and looked at.

[1:31:37] So, I understand the pressure

[1:31:39] that an happen from someone

[1:31:40] wanting to do something.

[1:31:42] i want to make it clear, to

[1:31:44] anyone that is here about this

[1:31:46] particular case, whether it's

[1:31:48] the owner that's requesting this

[1:31:51] or it's the neighbors that are

[1:31:54] making the comments, to me, it's

[1:31:56] not about what he is asking to

[1:32:01] do here, it's about the rezoning

[1:32:03] rezoning.

[1:32:17] And it meets, does it not meet

[1:32:18] the requirements of what it is?

[1:32:22] Even if it is, it's

[1:32:24] grandfathered in as a lot of

[1:32:25] record, I guess you could say.

[1:32:25] That's all.

[1:32:27] I don't want it to o say that I

[1:32:30] said the planning epartment

[1:32:32] made a mistake or made an error

[1:32:33] or anything like that?

[1:32:35] >> what you said could be taken

[1:32:36] that way.

[1:32:37] Whether I took it correctly or

[1:32:39] not, really doesn't matter.

[1:32:41] We're at a point where lobbying

[1:32:44] for a particular position is not

[1:32:45] our job.

[1:32:46] We have a recommendation in

[1:32:49] front of us that was unanimously

[1:32:50] approved by our planning

[1:32:51] commission and would recommend

[1:32:52] by ur staff.

[1:32:54] So we're in a point, unless

[1:32:58] there's other discussions, for a

[1:33:07] motion, a second and a vote.

[1:33:09] >> I make the motion we accept

[1:33:12] staff recommendation and approve

[1:33:16] this place.

[1:33:21] This case.

[1:33:22] >> Chair Davis: as I expressed

[1:33:24] earlier, the chair cannot make a

[1:33:26] motion or a second.

[1:33:29] We have a motion n the floor.

[1:33:31] Is there a second to approving

[1:33:35] this particular case unanimously

[1:33:36] approved by our planning

[1:33:44] commission and our staff?

[1:33:45] >> I'll second for discussion.

[1:33:48] >> we have a motion and a

[1:33:48] second.

[1:33:50] Does anyone have any new points

[1:33:54] to bring up relative to

[1:34:00] discussion?

[1:34:03] Hearing none, call for a vote.

[1:34:05] All in favor of moving this

[1:34:07] forward and a proving the

[1:34:10] recommendation signify by saying

[1:34:11] aye.

[1:34:11] Aye.

[1:34:15] Those opposed signify by saying

[1:34:15] aye.

[1:34:15] Aye.

[1:34:18] So we have a 2-2 vote which in

[1:34:22] effect is a no vote.

[1:34:25] Now, tell the public what

[1:34:27] happens to this process when

[1:34:30] we've had a no-vote.

[1:34:32] Can you share is that with us

[1:34:32] from your knowledge.

[1:34:34] >> it will stay the current

[1:34:37] zoning, the rsf-1 and rsf-2.

[1:34:39] The applicant will have to wait

[1:34:41] a year before he can come back

[1:34:45] and ask for another rezoning

[1:34:45] request.

[1:34:46] The home occupation won't be

[1:34:48] able to be approved.

[1:34:49] >> Chair Davis: does that mean

[1:34:52] that he can't do this home

[1:34:55] occupation under the current

[1:34:56] zoning?

[1:34:57] >> no, sir.

[1:35:00] We determined it was more of an

[1:35:00] agriculture

[1:35:01] al use so he would

[1:35:06] need the ra zoning.

[1:35:07] >> Chair Davis: back to my

[1:35:07] question.

[1:35:12] Whether he be able to use his

[1:35:14] property for the processing that

[1:35:16] he described s its currently

[1:35:17] zoned?

[1:35:19] >> he can do it for himself and

[1:35:30] not as a business.

[1:35:31] >> Chair Davis: thank you,

[1:35:32] ma'am.

[1:35:35] >> next case is case re zoning

[1:35:38] case z-21006.

[1:35:41] >> wayne, can I make a

[1:35:42] statement.

[1:35:43] >> the junior embassadors have

[1:35:45] got to leave and I was going to

[1:35:46] recognize them real quick and

[1:35:47] let ashley come up and talk

[1:35:49] about them real quick.

[1:35:50] >> Chair Davis: sure, let's do

[1:35:50] that.

[1:35:51] If that's ok.

[1:35:52] Come on, ashley.

[1:36:00] Come on up.

[1:36:00] >> I'm sorry, we have to leave

[1:36:01] early.

[1:36:03] We do have lunch with district

[1:36:04] attorney wilters and we don't

[1:36:05] want to keep him waiting.

[1:36:08] I want to make sure he is fed.

[1:36:11] Thank you for allowing us for

[1:36:14] taking time to spent with our

[1:36:16] junior am bass doors and it's a

[1:36:18] group of juniors and seniors

[1:36:19] here in bay minette and they

[1:36:21] participate in local government

[1:36:23] meetings to learn more about how

[1:36:23] local government runs here at

[1:36:27] the county level and the city

[1:36:27] level.

[1:36:28] In a typical year, they also

[1:36:30] participate in all of our events

[1:36:31] and other programs throughout

[1:36:32] the community to network with

[1:36:33] business leaders, learn about

[1:36:36] local businesses, learn about

[1:36:38] local events and community

[1:36:55] development.

[1:36:58] >> my name is hamilton

[1:36:58] weatherford.

[1:36:59] I'm a senior and this is my

[1:37:01] second year in the program.

[1:37:02] >> Chair Davis: very good.

[1:37:06] >> my name is kenneth and this

[1:37:07] is my second year in the

[1:37:07] program.

[1:37:08] I want to thank y'all for

[1:37:11] allowing us to come to this

[1:37:11] today.

[1:37:16] It's been very eventful and fun.

[1:37:19] >> my name is brady and I'm a

[1:37:20] senior at baldwin county high

[1:37:21] school and this is my second

[1:37:23] year in the program.

[1:37:25] >> my name is blakely norris

[1:37:28] this is my first year as a

[1:37:30] junior ambassador and I'm a

[1:37:30] senior.

[1:37:32] >> I'm emma johnson a junior and

[1:37:34] this is my first year of doing

[1:37:36] junior am bars doors and thank

[1:37:37] you for letting us come.

[1:37:39] >> my name is tyler and I'm a

[1:37:40] senior and this is my second

[1:37:42] year in the program and I want

[1:37:43] to thank y'all for letting us

[1:37:45] see this part of county

[1:37:46] government, I know up until now

[1:37:48] I haven't seen this

[1:37:49] interaction-type place.

[1:37:49] Thank you all.

[1:37:50] >> thank you.

[1:37:52] >> my name is lindsey stewart

[1:37:53] I'm a senior and this is my

[1:37:55] second year in the program and

[1:37:57] that was interesting.

[1:38:00] >> hi, I'm emily scar brow and

[1:38:01] I'm a junior and this is my

[1:38:02] first year in the program.

[1:38:04] Thank you.

[1:38:07] >> my name is andrew guy and I'm

[1:38:10] a junior and this is my irst

[1:39:18] year of junior ambassador.

[1:39:19] >> planning district 12.

[1:39:22] As you can see, to the north,

[1:39:24] the property is on zone b-3 to

[1:39:29] the east and south there is b4

[1:39:38] and it's rsf-3.

[1:39:44] Their plans is to combine that

[1:39:46] parcel with the b-4 for many

[1:39:47] storage.

[1:39:48] You have to have a minute pum of

[1:39:50] three acres for mini storage and

[1:40:01] that parcel only consists of 2.1 acres so they're requiring

[1:40:01] it.

[1:40:06] Here is the crist plan for the

[1:40:07] previous storage unit approved

[1:40:09] to the south and east of the

[1:40:10] subject property.

[1:40:13] They do have access off of

[1:40:18] highway 59 and also off of rolls

[1:40:18] road.

[1:40:20] They did receive a permit from

[1:40:23] the state and county highway

[1:40:25] department.

[1:40:26] prior to today, we only received

[1:40:29] one phone call in opposition.

[1:40:32] I do believe today we received a

[1:40:36] couple of e-mails against and we

[1:40:39] had the lady here during work

[1:40:42] session that was against it.

[1:40:43] Staff recommended approval and

[1:40:46] the planning commission also

[1:40:47] recommended approval at their

[1:40:53] January meeting.

[1:40:54] >> Chair Davis: all right.

[1:40:55] Do we have anyone signed up to

[1:40:56] speak on this topic?

[1:40:58] >> yes, sir.

[1:41:02] We have the applicant.

[1:41:03] >> Chair Davis: if you could

[1:41:03] come forward.

[1:41:05] We limit it to throw

[1:41:11] hree minutes.

[1:41:13] >> tom grain ger.

[1:41:14] I really don't ave a lot to

[1:41:14] add.

[1:41:17] The intent is to combine this

[1:41:18] property with the property to

[1:41:19] the east and the south and it's

[1:41:25] currently b-4 and just expand

[1:41:26] the development we're going to

[1:41:26] do.

[1:41:27] >> Chair Davis: do we have any

[1:41:31] questions or concerns from

[1:41:32] commission?

[1:41:34] >> the lady that was here

[1:41:35] earlier said she was just

[1:41:37] worried about people driving in

[1:41:38] and off of the road.

[1:41:41] That's not your intention to use

[1:41:44] that road primarily, is it?

[1:41:45] >> no.

[1:41:47] We have a turnout permit on

[1:41:50] rolls for the b-4 property

[1:41:50] already in place.

[1:41:52] The intent would be to try to

[1:41:54] use it, we're going to tie in

[1:41:56] the highway 59 through that

[1:41:57] property as well.

[1:41:58] We ould reduce cost.

[1:42:00] The owner would reduce cost if

[1:42:01] he just uses the ccess he

[1:42:02] already has.

[1:42:04] >> thank you.

[1:42:05] >> Chair Davis: any other

[1:42:08] questions or comments from the

[1:42:08] commission?

[1:42:10] >> wayne, o we have anyone

[1:42:10] signed up.

[1:42:12] >> I just wanted to mention we

[1:42:14] did get an e-mail from the

[1:42:15] person who spoke this morning at

[1:42:17] the work session and that is in

[1:42:22] the record as well of her e-mail

[1:42:30] pressing her concerns.

[1:42:31] >> Chair Davis: anybody in the

[1:42:31] audience feel compelled.

[1:42:36] If not, we'll close the public

[1:42:36] hearing.

[1:42:38] >> I make the motion that we

[1:42:40] approve this case number

[1:42:41] recommended by staff.

[1:42:42] >> I'll second the motion.

[1:42:43] >> Chair Davis: we've got a

[1:42:44] motion and a second.

[1:42:47] Any other discussion?

[1:42:49] If not, all in favor signify by

[1:42:51] saying aye.

[1:42:51] Aye.

[1:42:53] Opposed like sign.

[1:42:54] It's unanimous.

[1:42:58] >> the last rezoning is case

[1:43:00] number z-21007.

[1:43:02] This is the ent enterprises

[1:43:05] property rezoning and

[1:43:06] Mrs. Boykin is here

[1:43:08] is here to present

[1:43:09] this case.

[1:43:14] >> to rezone 76 acres from ra to

[1:43:15] rsf-2 single family in order to

[1:43:18] develop a residential

[1:43:18] subdivision.

[1:43:21] The property is located on

[1:43:24] county road 12 south in planning

[1:43:25] district 21.

[1:43:26] As you can see, there's a

[1:43:27] subdivision to the west.

[1:43:31] Which is owned rsf-2.

[1:43:32] The remaining adjacent property

[1:43:36] is zoned ra into the east.

[1:43:40] The subject property is unzoned.

[1:43:42] This property is located in

[1:43:44] foley's etj.

[1:43:47] So, if the rezoning is approved,

[1:43:50] the county would review the

[1:43:51] subdivision in-house and they

[1:43:54] would go to go to oley's

[1:43:57] planning commission for approval

[1:43:58] approval.

[1:44:03] The lots for r sf-2 is a minimum

[1:44:06] of 15,000 square feet with

[1:44:08] 80-foot wide lots.

[1:44:09] The staff recommended approval

[1:44:10] and the planning commission

[1:44:11] recommended approval at their

[1:44:15] February meeting.

[1:44:16] >> we have no one signed up to

[1:44:21] speak on this topic.

[1:44:25] Tom is here as the applicant on

[1:44:28] this case.

[1:44:30] Any questions?

[1:44:30] >> Chair Davis: ok.

[1:44:31] No one else signed up.

[1:44:32] No one has asked or raised their

[1:44:34] hand to speak.

[1:44:37] So at this point, we'll close

[1:44:38] this hearing.

[1:44:40] And now have this particular

[1:44:47] case z-21007 before the ounty

[1:44:47] commission.

[1:44:50] >> I make a motion we approve

[1:44:52] this case z-21007.

[1:44:53] >> 'll second.

[1:44:54] >> Chair Davis: we've got a

[1:44:55] motion and a second.

[1:44:59] Dealing with the case z-21007.

[1:45:01] Any other discussion or

[1:45:03] comments?

[1:45:04] Hearing none, all in favor

[1:45:06] signify by saying aye.

[1:45:07] Aye.

[1:45:08] Opposed like sign.

[1:45:09] It is unanimous.

[1:45:10] Thank you, sir.

[1:45:10] Thank you.

[1:45:11] >> thank you.

[1:45:13] >> next is the committee reports

[1:45:15] and the first one is payment of

[1:45:18] the bills.

[1:45:19] >> yes, sir.

[1:45:22] I make a motion that we pay

[1:45:27] bills totaling

[1:45:28] $13,938,214.30 with the

[1:45:32] exception of those vendors

[1:45:33] requested to be pulled, which

[1:45:35] there are none listed today.

[1:45:41] Of this amount,

[1:45:43] $9,783,658.25 was paid to the

[1:45:46] baldwin county board of

[1:45:50] education and $611,663.74 was

[1:45:53] paid to the gulf shores board of

[1:45:54] education for their portion of

[1:45:56] the county sales and use tax.

[1:45:58] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[1:45:59] from commissioner ball, do I

[1:46:00] hear a second.

[1:46:01] >> I'll second the motion.

[1:46:02] >> we have a second.

[1:46:04] Any other discussions or

[1:46:05] comments.

[1:46:06] Hearing none, all in favor

[1:46:08] signify by saying aye.

[1:46:08] Aye.

[1:46:09] It's unanimous.

[1:46:10] Thank you, jeb.

[1:46:12] >> next item is ea-2.

[1:46:15] Notification of interim payments

[1:46:17] approved by the clerk treasurer

[1:46:17] and staff recommendation is to

[1:46:19] make the attached payments made

[1:46:26] by the clerk treasurer totaling

[1:46:28] 2,240,697.76 and make it for the

[1:46:28] record.

[1:46:29] >> Chair Davis: do we have a

[1:46:39] motion to pprove.

[1:46:41] >> we about those and fa-1 will

[1:46:43] be brought back at a subsequent

[1:46:45] meeting and the plaque and

[1:46:47] courthouse and we'll get that

[1:46:51] done with your consent and also,

[1:46:52] efe-1 regarding the grants that

[1:46:54] will be coming back as an item

[1:46:57] at a subsequent meeting.

[1:46:59] >> o we need a motion?

[1:47:02] >> I'll make a motion that we

[1:47:06] approve staff recommendations

[1:47:18] for item number.

[1:47:19] >> it's unanimous.

[1:47:26] >> it brings down to commission

[1:47:26] questions.

[1:47:27] >> I do have any questions?

[1:47:28] >> no.

[1:47:29] >> nor do I.

[1:47:32] >> next are the addendum.

[1:47:35] we have ha-1 regarding the fire

[1:47:37] department, I believe laura has

[1:47:38] looked into this matter and

[1:47:42] laura, do you want to speak to

[1:47:43] that?

[1:47:46] >> I think it's arguable this

[1:47:50] use mayen be allowed under the

[1:47:52] subsection c-1 of the local act

[1:47:54] that creates this tax.

[1:47:58] And even if it doesn't, he

[1:48:01] commission is still can allow it

[1:48:03] as an exception under subsection

[1:48:04] 2.

[1:48:05] Provided that they've gotten the

[1:48:10] fire chief's approval and I

[1:48:11] think they have.

[1:48:13] >> thank you so much.

[1:48:14] Does that mean that we need to

[1:48:15] act on this?

[1:48:17] >> I make a motion we approve

[1:48:19] item ha-1.

[1:48:21] >> I'll second the motion.

[1:48:22] >> so we've got a motion and a

[1:48:24] second on item ha-1.

[1:48:26] Any further discussion?

[1:48:27] Hearing none.

[1:48:30] All in favor signify by saying

[1:48:31] aye.

[1:48:32] Aye.

[1:48:32] Unanimous.

[1:48:35] >> regarding ha-2.

[1:48:37] The federal staff recommended

[1:48:37] approval.

[1:48:39] >> so moved Mr. Chairman.

[1:48:39] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[1:48:40] do we have a second.

[1:48:40] >> second.

[1:48:42] >> we have a motion and a second

[1:48:44] on ha-2, all in favor saying

[1:48:45] aye.

[1:48:46] Aye.

[1:48:47] >> unanimous.

[1:48:51] >> next is the add straight

[1:48:51] report.

[1:48:53] I would like to recognize two

[1:48:54] groups of people for the county

[1:48:56] employees if you don't mind.

[1:48:58] First come to the podium.

[1:49:00] Shannon, as you now is the

[1:49:03] director of our citizens service

[1:49:03] center.

[1:49:04] And they take in a lot of calls

[1:49:05] and I want to make everyone

[1:49:07] aware of the work they do.

[1:49:15] In 2020, they received 245,245

[1:49:17] calls all handled and they did a

[1:49:19] great job many of the true story

[1:49:22] regarding those calls is 27% of

[1:49:26] those calls end with them.

[1:49:27] They do get passed around.

[1:49:29] They've done a great job of

[1:49:30] developing this knowledge base

[1:49:32] where when someone calls and ask

[1:49:33] a question, they record the

[1:49:34] question and the answers so

[1:49:36] they're not having to recreate

[1:49:36] answers again.

[1:49:39] I just want to recognize shannon

[1:49:40] and her team for doing an

[1:49:42] incredible job and doing a great

[1:49:44] deal of work and a huge workload

[1:49:47] during the storm, they assisted

[1:49:49] ima with phone calls and did a

[1:49:50] wonderful job and they take

[1:49:52] their job seriously and trying

[1:49:54] to provide great service to

[1:49:55] those people who are calling and

[1:49:57] calling the county that is their

[1:49:58] first impression of the county

[1:49:59] when they call someone.

[1:50:01] If they're getting answers

[1:50:02] quickly and accurately, which

[1:50:05] they do very well, it looks very

[1:50:07] good on the county's behalf.

[1:50:09] I want to recognize her

[1:50:09] publicly.

[1:50:10] And her staff.

[1:50:11] I want to thing them

[1:50:15] thank them very much.

[1:50:16] >> Chair Davis: would you like

[1:50:17] to say something?

[1:50:19] >> I want to tell y'all how much

[1:50:21] I appreciate the focus this

[1:50:24] commission has and this

[1:50:27] administration has on customer

[1:50:28] service and knowing how

[1:50:30] important it is to serve our

[1:50:30] citizens.

[1:50:33] Obviously I did not answer

[1:50:36] 250,000 phone calls in the past

[1:50:36] year.

[1:50:40] I mean, what I do is -- the hard

[1:50:43] work is done by my team in the

[1:50:46] service center or cis helping

[1:50:49] get us the equipment that we

[1:50:49] need.

[1:50:51] Just so many people that

[1:50:54] actually do the really hard

[1:50:54] work.

[1:50:55] It's always nice to be

[1:50:56] recognized.

[1:50:58] I really appreciate it.

[1:51:00] I will say that there has never

[1:51:02] been a ime in my 15 years here

[1:51:05] that I've been more excited to

[1:51:06] come to work everyday and see

[1:51:09] what is going to happen next and

[1:51:13] what we're going to do for our

[1:51:13] customers.

[1:51:14] Thank you.

[1:51:15] >> I was going to thank you so

[1:51:16] much for what you do.

[1:51:18] I want to thank you for llowing

[1:51:20] me to get a taste of your life

[1:51:22] and it's me sitting in that

[1:51:24] chair with the headset on for

[1:51:26] about a good two or three hours.

[1:51:28] I took two or three hundred

[1:51:31] calls for you and it's quite

[1:51:31] entertaining.

[1:51:33] I deal with phone calls all

[1:51:34] daylong.

[1:51:35] You've ot some real nice people

[1:51:36] that call and you've got some

[1:51:38] real not so nice people that

[1:51:38] call.

[1:51:40] One thing that I taught shannon

[1:51:42] and them, I wish we could talk

[1:51:45] to them like you talk to them.

[1:51:47] Sometimes you have to get a

[1:51:49] good, stern voice and they

[1:51:51] always are very nice group of

[1:51:52] people to work with down there

[1:51:54] and that was a humbling

[1:51:56] experience and it made me

[1:51:57] realize exactly what you do now

[1:52:00] many of and I just need to get

[1:52:01] to the other departments.

[1:52:03] Get on a motor grader and do

[1:52:03] some other things.

[1:52:07] try it all-out.

[1:52:07] Garbage trucks.

[1:52:08] Thank you for everything.

[1:52:15] It's been a pleasure.

[1:52:17] >> absolutely.

[1:52:19] I grow with everything he said.

[1:52:20] I didn't answer calls but I

[1:52:21] appreciate the small amount of

[1:52:25] time I did and I think that this

[1:52:27] past year has given us a lot of

[1:52:30] new challenges and you guys did

[1:52:36] an awesome job of tackling those

[1:52:36] head on.

[1:52:40] Not only did we have the

[1:52:41] pandemic, which we're still

[1:52:43] dealing with and we're still

[1:52:44] dealing with clean up.

[1:52:45] We had four states of emergency

[1:52:48] in three of them were valid.

[1:52:49] So, got to know you guys a

[1:52:50] little bit better during all

[1:52:51] that so thank you so much.

[1:52:54] I appreciate you.

[1:52:56] >> thank you.

[1:52:58] >> thank you all very much.

[1:53:00] I don't know people don't

[1:53:05] realize how many calls you take

[1:53:08] and

[1:53:11] move of them are handled and I

[1:53:13] appreciate all the hard work

[1:53:17] staff does.

[1:53:19] Setting back and answering 200

[1:53:23] calls a day or whatever, this is

[1:53:25] a big county and there's a lot

[1:53:26] of people that call.

[1:53:28] Thank you all for doing what do

[1:53:28] you.

[1:53:29] >> thank you.

[1:53:31] And I just realized during your

[1:53:33] four-year term, I guess we

[1:53:35] answered a million hone calls.

[1:53:38] >> you are right.

[1:53:39] >> Chair Davis: there is 229,000

[1:53:41] more that will want to call

[1:53:44] having had somewhat a similar

[1:53:45] experience, I had a guy tell me

[1:53:49] when someone ot a little ut of

[1:53:51] sorts, to ask them, particularly

[1:53:53] if it was a guy talking to a

[1:53:53] guy.

[1:53:54] do you kiss your mother with

[1:53:55] that mouth?

[1:53:58] And t's amazing thousand

[1:54:00] how it might

[1:54:02] change their tone or attitude.

[1:54:03] We appreciate it.

[1:54:07] As I've said before and I'll

[1:54:09] keep saying it, it honors me to

[1:54:11] be a part f a small team that

[1:54:13] gets things done, not just now

[1:54:14] but going forward.

[1:54:15] Convey that to all your people.

[1:54:17] >> I will, I wish they could all

[1:54:19] be here.

[1:54:21] They're busy the day after a

[1:54:21] holiday.

[1:54:24] They all take their jobs very

[1:54:25] seriously and nothing that we

[1:54:29] have thrown at them this year

[1:54:31] has made any of them question

[1:54:32] what they're doing and how much

[1:54:37] they love their job.

[1:54:39] >> I wanted to say out of

[1:54:43] 254,000 calls, only 27% get

[1:54:48] forwarded to someone else.

[1:54:49] >> Chair Davis: I was impressed

[1:54:50] the other way.

[1:54:51] >> we're working on being able

[1:54:54] to end more and more and I plan

[1:54:56] on giving a presentation

[1:55:00] probably at a next work session

[1:55:03] about ome of the things we're

[1:55:07] working on with the building

[1:55:09] department and planning and

[1:55:10] zoning those through my next

[1:55:12] target so we'll sit down and

[1:55:13] spend time together and get to

[1:55:17] know their processes so we can

[1:55:19] end even more calls in our

[1:55:19] center.

[1:55:21] >> Chair Davis: that's getting

[1:55:23] better as we get bigger.

[1:55:24] Thank you.

[1:55:28] >> those alls ending with

[1:55:30] shannon's staff means more

[1:55:30] productivity.

[1:55:31] >> exactly.

[1:55:32] >> the last group I want to

[1:55:33] recognize, I'm sorry it's taking

[1:55:35] so long but these are very

[1:55:38] important is the cis department

[1:55:41] primarily brian peacock, susan

[1:55:42] kilby, kish and grace, they're

[1:55:44] outside, first I want to mention

[1:55:45] kish and grace, they're

[1:55:51] programmers with us, we took

[1:55:52] over the rv park.

[1:55:54] Would you go out and buy that

[1:56:00] system from a vendor, grace and

[1:56:02] kish developed our own program

[1:56:05] where can you go online and book

[1:56:06] your site at the rv site.

[1:56:08] I want to recognize kish and

[1:56:10] grace for the great work on

[1:56:11] create tag site

[1:56:15] creating that site.

[1:56:15] It's been working well.

[1:56:16] Any time you take over something

[1:56:18] new there's bumps in the road

[1:56:20] from other issues but the work

[1:56:22] they did on the reservation

[1:56:23] system as worked flawlessly and

[1:56:25] been good and to have that kind

[1:56:27] of knowledge and ability on our

[1:56:28] staff, is phenomenal.

[1:56:31] We don't have to go ut and hire

[1:56:33] a vendor that will charge us

[1:56:34] double.

[1:56:35] I want to recognize them.

[1:56:38] Thank you very much.

[1:56:41] And also, brian and suzanne have

[1:56:42] been a huge help with the rv

[1:56:44] park because they've been

[1:56:45] assisting us in helping get that

[1:56:46] up and running.

[1:56:48] Susan has been great.

[1:56:49] She's new to brian's team and

[1:56:52] brian has been awesome as well

[1:56:53] and as a matter of fact we have

[1:56:56] trash cannes and brian came and

[1:56:57] got trash cans from his office

[1:56:58] and brought it out to the rv

[1:57:00] park and the bathrooms there.

[1:57:05] I want to publicly them for will

[1:57:07] them and getting it to be the

[1:57:08] best it can be.

[1:57:09] Wore fortunate the commission

[1:57:11] chose to move forward with some

[1:57:13] projects and we're excite beside

[1:57:13] that.

[1:57:15] with people like this on our

[1:57:16] team, I think there's nothing we

[1:57:17] can't accomplish out there or

[1:57:19] anywhere else in the county

[1:57:20] because they've cup a

[1:57:24] done a

[1:57:26] phenomenal job.

[1:57:28] >> Chair Davis: come up.

[1:57:31] Each of y'all, we welcome you to

[1:57:32] make a comment.

[1:57:33] You can jab at the boss and

[1:57:39] we'll be back up.

[1:57:41] >> I just female blessed

[1:57:44] feel blessed and

[1:57:45] thankful.

[1:57:47] I'm proud I'm part of the

[1:57:48] department and baldwin county

[1:57:48] commission.

[1:57:50] I believe that with great

[1:57:52] leadership, good camaraderie and

[1:57:54] all your peer and keeping high

[1:57:54] -

[1:57:57] moral within your team is the

[1:57:58] key to efficient and great

[1:57:59] workman ships.

[1:58:02] That's why we produce this great

[1:58:04] apps that help people.

[1:58:07] I'm just very grateful I'm given

[1:58:10] the opportunity to serve baldwin

[1:58:11] county.

[1:58:12] Under good leadership.

[1:58:14] You guys and brian.

[1:58:15] >> thank you.

[1:58:16] >> Chair Davis: well said.

[1:58:18] >> who is ext.

[1:58:26] >> I just want to say thank you.

[1:58:27] I'm thankful to be a part of

[1:58:28] team cis.

[1:58:31] >> thank you.

[1:58:35] >> I would like to thank

[1:58:35] everybody.

[1:58:36] Special will he my

[1:58:39] especially my director and

[1:58:41] manager for getting me on this

[1:58:41] project.

[1:58:46] I would like to thank you all.

[1:58:49] >> thank you.

[1:58:50] >> Chair Davis: all right, boss.

[1:58:50] Talk to us.

[1:58:53] >> what more is there to say.

[1:58:56] this epresents three of a

[1:58:57] fantastic team.

[1:58:58] They're all looking to make

[1:59:00] things better in everything they

[1:59:00] put their hands on.

[1:59:02] With every project we're

[1:59:06] assigned and every quarter that

[1:59:07] we have flowed through our

[1:59:08] department, they do their best.

[1:59:10] I couldn't be more proud to work

[1:59:12] side by side with them on

[1:59:14] everything we do.

[1:59:15] >> Chair Davis: I think it goes

[1:59:17] without saying too, if there's

[1:59:19] ever a department that is

[1:59:19] subject to things changing

[1:59:22] almost daily or weekly or

[1:59:25] monthly or certainly in annan an

[1:59:27] annual term, it's y'all's area

[1:59:28] and to jump in there and look

[1:59:30] for the best way to do it, I

[1:59:31] have two more phones that I know

[1:59:33] how to operate.

[1:59:35] Knowing that we have got y'all

[1:59:39] handling things for us, the

[1:59:42] citizens, know that handled

[1:59:42] well.

[1:59:44] You are a group of doers and I

[1:59:46] think baldwin county is made up

[1:59:49] of staff and volunteers that are

[1:59:50] doers, it's not about credit and

[1:59:52] all that kind of stuff, r

[1:59:54] blame, it's about being doer and

[1:59:56] we want to tell you how much we

[1:59:56] appreciate you.

[1:59:57] Thank you, ery much.

[2:00:02] >> thank you, all.

[2:00:04] >> I just want to extend off

[2:00:07] that and brian, when we were

[2:00:08] struggle ing where we were going

[2:00:10] to go next with live oak, you

[2:00:11] pretty much stepped up and said

[2:00:14] I can do it.

[2:00:17] With you and wayne's

[2:00:18] partnership, and doing some

[2:00:20] restaffing and ome row

[2:00:21] regrouping

[2:00:22] out there, I look forward to

[2:00:26] that being one of the biggest

[2:00:26] and greatest things for north

[2:00:28] baldwin county and this whole

[2:00:29] entire county.

[2:00:32] Based on the ease of services,

[2:00:34] and the convenience of what

[2:00:36] you've made this, we're going to

[2:00:39] be over booked.

[2:00:40] That's my hope.

[2:00:42] I'm looking forward to great

[2:00:45] things to come to live oak and

[2:00:46] thank you for your leadership

[2:00:48] and making this basically dream

[2:00:51] become a reality because it's

[2:00:54] been a long time coming for

[2:00:55] this.

[2:00:55] Thank ou.

[2:01:10] >> thank you, wayne.

[2:01:13] >> I visited your definitely,

[2:01:15] wore interested if you go this

[2:01:17] direction, with letting the

[2:01:20] county manage it, look what

[2:01:22] we've done.

[2:01:24] I was like, you are almost ready

[2:01:24] already.

[2:01:26] I take it that y'all really

[2:01:27] wanted to see and have the

[2:01:28] opportunity and I remember

[2:01:30] saying just give me a chance and

[2:01:32] we can o this and I was like

[2:01:33] well, I'm still doing research

[2:01:34] to determine what direction.

[2:01:37] It was like, you guys wanted to

[2:01:38] do this so much and it was like,

[2:01:40] it shows and how it's working so

[2:01:42] well and so I really appreciate

[2:01:43] that because it's not good to be

[2:01:45] given a task that you don't

[2:01:46] really believe in either so it's

[2:01:49] t sounds like you believe in

[2:01:50] this task and your work shows

[2:01:51] and thank you for the apps.

[2:01:53] I know when I first got elected,

[2:01:56] I really wanted an app and so

[2:01:58] did the rest of them.

[2:02:01] Not only have I got one I have a

[2:02:03] whole folder of baldwin county

[2:02:05] apps and it's just good.

[2:02:06] I don't get to see you guys as

[2:02:09] much as I do brian.

[2:02:11] You help us so uch.

[2:02:14] I know it's not just me.

[2:02:15] hopefully I'm not the only one

[2:02:17] that bugs y'all.

[2:02:17] If I am I am sorry.

[2:02:19] Thank you so much for

[2:02:21] everything.

[2:02:22] Shirley joe he has two phones he

[2:02:26] do know how to use he says.

[2:02:27] I'm not the only one.

[2:02:29] You've come to my rescue.

[2:02:30] Brian is our contact person.

[2:02:35] I know that you are the wind

[2:02:36] beneath his wings.

[2:02:39] >> thank you all very much.

[2:02:41] Creating an app as think it's

[2:02:46] put a lot of time and energy

[2:02:48] into uilding that app for the

[2:02:48] live oak.

[2:02:51] Not only that but several other

[2:02:55] ones that you have developed.

[2:02:58] It's great to have a team that

[2:03:02] can do that without us centering centering

[2:03:03] go

[2:03:05] centeringgo out

[2:03:10] -- it'shomegrown and it makes

[2:03:12] makes it

[2:03:13] special.

[2:03:16] Thank you for what you do.

[2:03:17] >> and I'm sure that you will

[2:03:21] have projects that we don't know

[2:03:22] about yet.

[2:03:23] We May have problems we node

[2:03:23] help with.

[2:03:25] Thank you for being a great part

[2:03:26] of the team.

[2:03:29] All of you.

[2:03:30] Thank you.

[2:03:32] >> that's all I have next is the

[2:03:33] county attorney's report.

[2:03:34] >> all right.

[2:03:37] >> there's no report.

[2:03:37] >>

[2:03:38] >> Chair Davis: all right.

[2:03:39] Public comments.

[2:03:40] Do we have anyone from the

[2:03:43] public that has been able to

[2:03:44] stay here until 12:10.

[2:03:45] We don't.

[2:03:46] What about the press?

[2:03:47] I don't believe I see anybody

[2:03:52] from the press here.

[2:03:52] commission comments.

[2:03:56] >> I'd like to start off with we

[2:04:02] have another one of ur people

[2:04:09] that served ur community, frank

[2:04:15] served on the baldwin county

[2:04:17] water district 4 and he passed

[2:04:19] away yesterday afternoon.

[2:04:21] He was also an educator for

[2:04:24] many, many years with the school

[2:04:24] system.

[2:04:27] He was a great mentor for a lot

[2:04:28] of kids.

[2:04:31] And he is definitely going to be

[2:04:31] missed.

[2:04:40] He is on several boards.

[2:04:41] He would do anything co and he

[2:04:45] will be missed on what to send

[2:04:46] my could be dollances to his

[2:04:57] family and loved ones.

[2:04:58] >> Chair Davis: billie joe.

[2:04:59] >> I want to thank everybody.

[2:05:01] Wore still struggling through

[2:05:02] all the things that's going on.

[2:05:05] I feel like that we're -- it's

[2:05:08] the beginning of the ending of

[2:05:08] all of this.

[2:05:11] When it comes to the covid and

[2:05:13] all that, I'm hoping we'll start

[2:05:14] seeing ome of that light at the

[2:05:14] end of the tunnel.

[2:05:16] Thank you, staff for all you do

[2:05:17] for us.

[2:05:20] Thank you my colleagues for what

[2:05:24] y'all do too.

[2:05:25] >> I'm just as well as another

[2:05:27] two, I'm thankful for hat the

[2:05:28] staff does.

[2:05:30] Everybody from the top to the

[2:05:30] bottom.

[2:05:32] I appreciate everything that

[2:05:32] they do.

[2:05:34] It's great to see that our

[2:05:37] highway and engineers back and

[2:05:37] in spite of

[2:05:40] in spite of all his tragedy and

[2:05:42] yet he is still going through

[2:05:44] them and shows up for work.

[2:05:47] It just goes to show you what we

[2:05:49] have working for us and the

[2:05:51] caliber of people who we get to

[2:05:54] work ith every single day.

[2:05:59] It's not that we get to work

[2:06:01] through these people and it's a

[2:06:02] humbling experience and great

[2:06:05] honor to be up here today.

[2:06:07] I just enjoy every inute of

[2:06:09] this job and working with each

[2:06:11] of y'all up here on this stage

[2:06:12] as well as all the people down

[2:06:13] there.

[2:06:20] I thank you.

[2:06:21] >> Chair Davis: obviously, thank

[2:06:23] you sounds hollow but it's not.

[2:06:24] We've all aid it and every one

[2:06:27] of you in this rom and those

[2:06:28] that aren't here that are part

[2:06:33] of the team, we are a good team

[2:06:35] and we don't want y'all to think

[2:06:39] when it's over we go prancing

[2:06:40] home and we have other meetings

[2:06:46] wore going to be meeting with

[2:06:48] members at 1:30 and talk about

[2:06:52] broadband at 3:00 so know while

[2:06:53] you are working hard to make

[2:06:54] sure things happen the way they

[2:06:56] need to happen in your

[2:06:57] department, wore also aggressive

[2:06:59] about getting bots on the ground

[2:07:00] and getting information and

[2:07:02] getting around the table to talk

[2:07:04] about things that will make a

[2:07:07] difference in all our lives.

[2:07:09] So, wayne, thank you to you and

[2:07:12] all the staff.

[2:07:14] Let's do, he stepped out but

[2:07:17] let's do keep joey nunnally in

[2:07:18] our minds and hearts because of

[2:07:20] sort of things this have

[2:07:22] happened in his personal family

[2:07:23] connections, are taxing.

[2:07:25] Wove all been through it.

[2:07:27] We'll all have it to do it at

[2:07:28] various times.

[2:07:30] We need to be mindful and not

[2:07:33] only is he handling that, as a

[2:07:35] good son, would handle it, but

[2:07:38] he is also handling his job.

[2:07:40] It takes all of us pulling

[2:07:41] together so when you get a

[2:07:42] chance, give him a little pat on

[2:07:45] the shoulder or a little at a

[2:07:48] boy or at a girl because it

[2:07:48] matters.

[2:07:49] And that's what makes us unique.

[2:07:53] This is eye county that is

[2:07:53] unique.

[2:07:55] We do have to apologize, we're

[2:07:56] not any better than anybody.

[2:08:00] We're as good as everybody.

[2:08:02] And it's because you people make

[2:08:04] things happen and I'm tickled

[2:08:08] and honors to be a small art of

[2:08:08] that.

[2:08:09] Let's get about our business and

[2:08:10] we'll meet again, is that right.

[2:08:13] >> I make a motion we adjourn.

[2:08:14] >> before that, is there anyway

[2:08:16] we can get a meeting set up with

[2:08:19] our legislate to

[2:08:19] to

[2:08:22] legislature to talk about

[2:08:25] bills up there in montgomery to

[2:08:26] discuss some of those things.

[2:08:27] If we can set that up somehow.

[2:08:29] >> we need to get with martin

[2:08:30] and he can probably et that up.

[2:08:31] >> yeah.

[2:08:32] >> martin christie would be able

[2:08:34] to set that up for us.

[2:08:36] >> martin christie would be a

[2:08:36] good one.

[2:08:37] >> like to set up some of these

[2:08:39] bills that are there up and I

[2:08:40] got some questions on them, you

[2:08:40] know.

[2:08:41] >> oh, sure,.

[2:08:43] >> if you are phone has been

[2:08:44] lighting up like mine and people

[2:08:46] on both sides of the topic as

[2:08:47] well.

[2:08:47] >> ok.

[2:08:48] >> if we can do that.

[2:08:50] >> we'll be glad to work on that

[2:08:51] and we'll do it as quickly as we

[2:08:51] can.

[2:08:54] >> I would suggest reaching out

[2:08:55] to cliff Mccullough as well

[2:08:58] because it's a matter of

[2:08:59] scheduling where we are and who

[2:09:00] we are and.

[2:09:02] >> they're in session now, so e.

[2:09:04] Yeah, it's going to be tough.

[2:09:05] It May have to be until the they

[2:09:06] get out of session but they're

[2:09:07] in session right now.

[2:09:09] >> but, again, thursday evening

[2:09:11] and friday, kind of meeting

[2:09:13] might be able to occur but, I

[2:09:14] grow with

[2:09:18] agree with skip, we have things

[2:09:21] we need a voice in and the

[2:09:22] sooner we can express our

[2:09:25] thoughts, the better we can move

[2:09:25] things forward.

[2:09:26] >> there's a motion on the table

[2:09:28] to adjourn.

[2:09:28] >> Chair Davis: yes, we have a

[2:09:30] motion, do we have a second.

[2:09:34] >> I'll second.

[2:09:34] >> Chair Davis: we have a motion

[2:09:34] and a second.

[2:09:35] All in favor signify by saying

[2:09:36] aye.

[2:09:36] Aye.

[2:09:37] >> we're out of here, thank you.

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