[0:09] >> Kate Sullivan after 10, the

[0:09] call

[0:10] to order ccpd Board of

[0:13] directors meeting for Friday.

[0:18] AUGUST 20.

[0:19] First item of business is a

[0:21] consideration of Fy 27

[0:24] recommended ccpd budget.

[0:24] Keith Morris.

[0:27] Keith Moore system, director

[0:29] of police.

[0:30] >> a few follow-up slides that

[0:31] I sent through base and some of

[0:33] the conversation that we had.

[0:33] I think we do have queued up

[0:36] behind that. The other slides

[0:38] for me to get into them.

[0:39] So I'll just share a little bit

[0:39] this morning and then here for

[0:42] any questions that you MAY

[0:46] have.

[0:50] So this is a simplified version

[0:50] other so much and ccpd 50 over

[0:51] 50 programs. They each have a

[0:52] very unique identity. And so

[0:57] it's always a challenge how to.

[0:58] Divide it out. And so we try to

[1:01] go simple on this. Just show

[1:04] you the overall changes between

[1:05] 26 and 27.

[1:08] With the the total increased

[1:10] expenses of 8.1 million.

[1:11] The increase in revenue of

[1:11] 6 Million. And then we have

[1:14] a plan to use of fund balance

[1:17] of 2.1 And so that's kind of

[1:18] how all the numbers shake out.

[1:20] What we presented on Tuesday

[1:23] between all the programs.

[1:27] Also in here.

[1:30] Is kind of a simplified.

[1:30] The tale of the staffing

[1:32] changes. Those are just the

[1:34] the affected programs. And and

[1:35] the 26 numbers in the 27

[1:38] numbers and kind of how they

[1:39] change. We had some some

[1:41] changing between programs to

[1:46] staff up programs like bike

[1:46] Patrol. And

[1:49] and move some positions over

[1:53] from. General fund for the big.

[1:54] Community alliance commands,

[1:55] the mugger expiry Graham

[1:58] positions. That kind of thing.

[1:59] And this tunnel positions that

[2:02] are listed in there as well.

[2:06] The other slides that I

[2:08] provided sent through

[2:09] yesterday. Hopefully you got

[2:13] them provides a summary of the

[2:14] changes for each program.

[2:16] And so with that, I'll open

[2:16] up to any questions because

[2:19] lots of different programs and

[2:20] maybe a lot of different

[2:21] questions.

[2:23] >> I just question Liz, with

[2:24] could we get one question about

[2:25] the decrease in the one percent

[2:27] decrease in that see it team.

[2:30] >> Yes, that's a sergeant that

[2:30] we

[2:34] moved over to the Stockyards

[2:38] Bike Patrol team. Okay.

[2:42] Just a point of clarification.

[2:43] Keith cover for us with what

[2:46] reductions you as it impacts a

[2:48] crime prevention specials.

[2:50] >> So the crime prevention

[2:51] specialist program. So we went

[2:52] through the reductions, the one

[2:52] of the 3% reductions across the

[2:56] board. We didn't ccpd as well.

[2:56] So all of

[2:56] >> the department was going

[3:00] through the same reductions.

[3:00] And so we identified some

[3:01] reductions in each program.

[3:02] i believe in the crime

[3:05] prevention specialist program.

[3:06] We had some reductions in

[3:07] operating supplies and some

[3:09] of the signs we look, there's

[3:11] still left some in there, but

[3:13] the deputy chiefs reviewed each

[3:15] of the units underneath their

[3:16] command to look at reductions

[3:19] in the individual program.

[3:20] So rather than cutting large

[3:20] programs, that was a little

[3:22] bit of cut the individual

[3:26] programs. Right? Because it's a

[3:29] court members. Thank you, Keith

[3:33] >> no, she car seen. I we've

[3:34] we've had conversations

[3:35] regarding the constitutional

[3:37] policing and I think the really

[3:37] good things do come from that

[3:41] specially driven from data, not

[3:42] just the motion and part of

[3:44] that conversation was regarding

[3:45] a part of the shared mission as

[3:46] well and really evaluating

[3:47] those partners and make sure

[3:48] that we have the right ones in

[3:50] place. So I don't know if

[3:52] you've got to just be on the

[3:52] spot just so others can hear

[3:53] isn't it was great information.

[3:54] Just talk about what you're

[3:57] your plan. Is there in your

[3:58] outlook?

[3:58] Oh, yes, councilmember, thanks

[4:01] for the question. I think I

[4:03] learned to it on Tuesday when

[4:03] we look at our partners

[4:04] partnerships of really taking a

[4:06] look through a criminal to

[4:07] cleanse of the programs are

[4:08] provided.

[4:09] >> Obviously, as we said

[4:10] before, as we've talked about

[4:11] with budgets to meet a

[4:12] particular in these times as

[4:14] well, being good stewards of

[4:15] our ccpd dollars. We have to

[4:17] ensure that we have programs

[4:18] that are just nice to have but

[4:19] actually have shown that

[4:21] they're they do have an impact

[4:21] and what we're trying to

[4:23] accomplish with ccpd, which is

[4:26] a reduction of crime prevention

[4:27] of crime and better public

[4:28] safety. And so by looking

[4:30] through a chronological lands,

[4:31] we're gonna be able to see what

[4:33] programs actually have shown.

[4:34] There's literature of their

[4:34] sons around the country,

[4:35] working with criminologist to

[4:39] show that they have worked.

[4:40] In addition to that, what

[4:42] programs what metrics do when

[4:44] you do? We need to grade these

[4:44] programs. Are they offering a

[4:46] year year basis? What you

[4:48] promised that you would offer.

[4:49] So if you're going to we're

[4:49] going to fund you and we hope

[4:51] that what you promise we're

[4:55] going to have that is showing

[4:57] it's worth. And so I think it's

[4:58] something that I'm looking

[4:58] through and through coming, a

[5:00] logical lenses were being data

[5:01] driven in looking at the

[5:02] programs that we have really,

[5:03] truly just looking at it and

[5:04] say, look at what programs are

[5:06] nice and what program have

[5:08] shown evidence that they work.

[5:09] And obviously that's gonna help

[5:11] in our selection process in the

[5:14] sand. As we go to you know, to

[5:18] that program.

[5:18] Any other questions?

[5:24] I have one general when Keith.

[5:26] As far as you know, we we start

[5:28] off, you know, and ccpd

[5:29] funding. You know, some pilot

[5:30] programs, then, you know, times

[5:34] are shift over to grant, you

[5:35] know, funding all they can you

[5:36] cover what what programs have

[5:39] shifted from pilots to Graham.

[5:45] From pilot to grant Planning

[5:46] Theresa. So.

[5:48] Our goal is always to maximize

[5:48] the resources that are

[5:49] available to us and bringing

[5:51] grandson cops. Hiring is a is

[5:53] a.

[5:55] >> Certainly an example of

[5:57] that. So whether you're talking

[6:00] about police programs or

[6:01] nonprofit programs, we're

[6:02] structured really to be looking

[6:05] for effective programs that

[6:06] we can formalize. And so some

[6:08] programs are coming to ccpd

[6:09] Partners, for example. Pilot

[6:12] programs that are getting off

[6:14] the ground. That they're

[6:15] evaluating themselves were

[6:15] evaluating them to move

[6:19] towards, you know, potentially

[6:20] more

[6:20] permanent funding.

[6:23] >> Yeah, I see Chief Garcia

[6:23] general you back there. I don't

[6:24] know if he has something to

[6:24] spell. I was just going to say

[6:25] also as we go through this

[6:26] process, would nothing's going

[6:28] to be a surprise any of you?

[6:29] I mean, I plan on meeting with

[6:30] each one of the one on one

[6:30] individual. It us know where

[6:33] we're at in the process when it

[6:34] as it pertains to those

[6:34] programming. Some of the other

[6:36] programs we talked about as

[6:38] well to the right. I guess my

[6:39] point is that they were not

[6:41] necessarily, you know, loading

[6:41] the ccpd budget, their

[6:42] opportunities where we can

[6:45] shift over to grant funding

[6:47] that.

[6:51] Where we can without doing any

[6:52] supplanting. So it the unique

[6:53] circumstances, something that

[6:54] we work through. But we do try

[6:54] to maximize funding.

[6:55] >> And all the different

[6:59] resources that we have a

[7:02] >> Got to say. Thank you.

[7:02] Michael. We have one question

[7:06] for you. This MAY be for the

[7:08] chief. We received.

[7:09] MR. Had are here. Sounds like

[7:09] he wanted to submit comments.

[7:10] And then when it makes peak of

[7:14] the public, but doesn't look

[7:15] like it's here, he raised some

[7:18] questions here, chief, just

[7:22] about some of alpr license

[7:24] plate readers. As part of that,

[7:24] I wonder and I know the flock

[7:27] has come out with some

[7:27] suggestions and things you've

[7:28] been speaking about what we're

[7:29] doing. I know you're going to

[7:32] get the full presentation at

[7:33] some point, but I think since

[7:33] this is raising the in the

[7:35] context of our budget and what

[7:37] we're spending on this

[7:37] technology, a fair chance to

[7:41] answer what we're doing already

[7:44] here in Fort Worth.

[7:48] Councilmember. And thank you

[7:48] for the question.

[7:48] >> You know, as his

[7:50] conversations come up,

[7:52] obviously we've been working

[7:52] diligently with our

[7:55] constitutional policing unit

[7:56] obviously wouldn't start.

[7:56] I want to finish as we didn't

[7:59] start thinking about this on

[8:00] Tuesday.

[8:02] Obviously one of the things the

[8:03] constitutional policing that

[8:04] unit doesn't particularly with

[8:04] the help of our real time crime

[8:07] center and the hard-working

[8:09] individual that work there that

[8:11] really rely on this technology

[8:11] and starting their one of the

[8:14] jobs that they do is not look

[8:14] at only internal things that

[8:15] are going on with the

[8:15] department with national

[8:17] issues. Are we going to have to

[8:19] deal with and sure enough case

[8:22] in point here where? You know,

[8:22] before I start, one of the

[8:24] things that I'd like to say

[8:24] from a technology perspective

[8:25] is you have to be responsible

[8:27] with it. There's no question

[8:30] about it. You know, back when

[8:32] I started in the early 90's

[8:34] was really within the last few

[8:35] years of that was the advent of

[8:38] having what's called in the

[8:40] tease. Your patrol car. And

[8:40] with an empty teen, your patrol

[8:42] car, your act, you have access

[8:43] to all see just information,

[8:46] right? That's very regulated.

[8:47] You have to get certified, et

[8:48] cetera, et cetera. There's

[8:48] criminal culpability for its

[8:51] misuse as well as

[8:51] administrative. But with that

[8:54] tool that I had in the early

[8:54] 90's.

[8:56] Obviously can run license

[8:58] plates, which cars are stolen.

[8:59] You know, who has warrants who

[9:01] have suspended driver's

[9:04] license. Where's the gun?

[9:05] Registered to? Does someone

[9:06] have an emergency protective

[9:10] order against them, et cetera?

[9:11] Arguably, to me, that's the

[9:13] most valuable tool that I think

[9:14] one of the most valuable tools

[9:15] law enforcement has is the

[9:17] ability or officers to do that

[9:19] at their fingertips. Now, if an

[9:22] officer does. Something wrong

[9:24] and inappropriate.

[9:26] My opinion, you certainly don't

[9:28] throw the system a way that is

[9:28] the most beneficial system for

[9:29] a lot to law enforcement.

[9:33] That time you deal with that

[9:33] particular officer and you also

[9:37] set things in stone to make

[9:38] sure that you respect that tool

[9:38] and make sure that we're

[9:41] operating in a way that has

[9:44] guardrails. Now, when I look

[9:45] at flocking Lpr, listen, I've

[9:48] been doing this job for over

[9:50] 3 decades and I remember life

[9:50] is a police officer without

[9:54] technology. And oftentimes I

[9:56] marvel. With a with a smile

[9:58] as to the benefits that this

[10:00] generation of police officer

[10:01] has with the technology to

[10:02] deliver the services that our

[10:05] residents and our victims want

[10:07] as quickly as possible.

[10:07] You know, you saw the reduction

[10:08] in violent crime that we had.

[10:11] We done this presentation on

[10:12] Tuesday. Not only is that

[10:12] because of the hard work of the

[10:14] men and women of this police

[10:15] department. But in fact,

[10:16] because of the technology that

[10:17] we have that does include

[10:21] flocking that does include

[10:21] alpr. Now I've seen a lot of

[10:25] conversations she's about

[10:25] around the country about the

[10:28] arguments about keeping flock

[10:30] and how flux Creighton.

[10:31] There's not a chief in this

[10:32] country, myself included.

[10:33] That's not going to tell you

[10:35] how invaluable it is to have

[10:37] this technology with us.

[10:38] The one part that I think I I

[10:38] MAY differ is the fact that

[10:40] that's not with the

[10:44] discussions. You know, to take

[10:44] the line from Spiderman.

[10:47] But with great power comes

[10:50] great responsibility and I do

[10:51] think and I do.

[10:52] As being in this job for a very

[10:53] long time and police chief

[10:55] since 2016, I will tell you

[10:55] that we need more guardrails

[10:58] when these type of with these

[10:59] type of instruments, even

[11:02] though again, we do not want to

[11:02] go back to the dark ages, a law

[11:04] enforcement without these 2

[11:08] teams. And so as we look at

[11:09] these things, we started

[11:10] working on a on a work plan.

[11:11] And if you think you MAY

[11:13] recall, actually, when Doctor

[11:14] Del Carmen actually first gave

[11:15] us our constitute constitute a

[11:16] policing unit. He did mention

[11:21] flock in those conversations.

[11:22] And so right now we're

[11:23] developing a scope right where

[11:25] we're going to develop a

[11:25] structured process for its

[11:29] overall use. The inventory in

[11:31] the deployment document

[11:31] evaluating the hit to dispatch

[11:33] decision. And what that means

[11:36] is when our tcc gets a hit,

[11:37] you know how that is

[11:40] communicated in vetted for

[11:40] officers to take action.

[11:41] We're drafting and implementing

[11:43] a misuse detection audit system

[11:46] in mechanism. We're going sure

[11:46] that the governing policy is

[11:50] precise regarding authorize and

[11:50] prohibited. Use. We're going

[11:51] to analyze historical data to

[11:54] help determine the program's

[11:55] efficiency. You know, the

[11:58] overall use will be composed of

[12:00] who has access to flock Lpr in

[12:02] the reasons for those requests

[12:04] standardizing the query

[12:07] standards case number offense,

[12:09] type documented, justification,

[12:10] etc. The training in the annual

[12:12] recertification for continued

[12:12] access. And this was

[12:13] interesting to me because the

[12:14] other day I had to recertify

[12:15] my sieges. All right, that we

[12:17] have to do every single year.

[12:18] And I'll get into the penalties

[12:21] of misuse of see just in a

[12:23] little it. But as I was going

[12:23] through that I thought to

[12:26] myself, always policy, always

[12:27] lags behind technology. It

[12:28] always does. It has for the

[12:30] entire time I've been a cop.

[12:31] It was I looked through that

[12:33] with the conversations we're

[12:34] having. I'm like, why doesn't

[12:37] this type of recertification

[12:37] work for a tool such as

[12:38] flocking Lpr so that we are

[12:41] recertify officers every single

[12:43] year. So we're going to be

[12:44] starting to do that and

[12:45] obviously training data,

[12:48] retention preservation in

[12:49] sharing guidelines. We're going

[12:50] sure the current camera

[12:52] inventory in the footprint is

[12:54] continually updated and

[12:55] accurate. One of the value, a

[12:57] deployment decision strategies

[12:58] and the overall process looking

[12:59] at crime rates looking a crime

[13:00] type. As I mentioned before,

[13:01] if you look at our crime is

[13:03] here in the city in the room,

[13:04] massive reductions that we're

[13:04] having is is due in part

[13:07] because of this technology.

[13:09] Classifier deployments. What

[13:11] areas are redeploying that

[13:12] their high crime placement.

[13:14] What areas are we to point for

[13:15] quarter perimeter placement?

[13:18] What areas replacement based on

[13:19] support of crime? Gotta.

[13:20] You know, our hit to dispatch

[13:22] decision. As I mentioned

[13:22] earlier, we want to examine

[13:25] the process and the steps of

[13:26] the events from the hit to

[13:29] determining the appropriate

[13:30] response. We want to set

[13:31] protocols are per user hits and

[13:33] dispatch its meaning when

[13:37] officer. Uses a system to get

[13:40] a hit as opposed to when they

[13:42] are tcc gets a hit.

[13:42] When examined data to measure

[13:45] the response in the outcome

[13:48] results. When we look about

[13:50] misuse detection audit with

[13:51] automated and continue a system

[13:53] that alert a system

[13:54] administrator potential misuse

[13:56] flock currently has a system

[13:56] based on algorithms and search

[13:58] criteria. They provide daily

[14:02] feedback. We want to develop

[14:05] a manual. A process for random

[14:06] sampling as well. Not too

[14:06] dissimilar. Random sampling of

[14:07] body-worn camera footage with a

[14:10] lot of myriad of other things

[14:11] that we use.

[14:12] Right now. We look at the

[14:13] governing policies. This is

[14:15] something that, again, I MAY

[14:15] differ. There is no

[14:19] comprehensive Texas Alpr slash

[14:21] fought flock statute.

[14:23] Department policy is there for

[14:24] the only consistent access to

[14:27] its use and how you hold

[14:29] individuals accountable.

[14:32] All say that the use of flock,

[14:33] the misuse of flock or lpr

[14:34] should carry similar penalties

[14:35] both administratively and

[14:39] criminally as to see just

[14:40] violations. And I know I've

[14:42] spoken to the city attorney's

[14:43] office regards to the we're

[14:44] going to need a I'll be the

[14:45] first chief to testify in

[14:47] Austin to say that that is

[14:50] necessary. I see no reason why

[14:50] misuse of flock in pr is not in

[14:52] the same category view of

[14:56] misusing sieges. We're going

[14:57] to rework our current Fort

[14:58] Worth pd. Opr general order to

[15:00] ensure policies and procedures

[15:01] are appropriate.

[15:02] And will utilize crime data to

[15:03] evaluate the effectiveness and

[15:04] productivity. Each device

[15:06] related to the deployment

[15:09] location. You know, working

[15:10] through this. And I know we're

[15:12] going to MARCH broader

[15:13] presentation to council.

[15:14] I hope we can all stipulate

[15:17] the fact of the amount of lives

[15:19] and how.

[15:20] Our victims have had have

[15:22] gotten justice by the use of

[15:23] techno this technology. But we

[15:27] will have many, many examples

[15:31] as to how. This system has

[15:31] given victims, justice and how

[15:35] these systems have reduced

[15:36] violent crime in our city while

[15:37] at the same time, understanding

[15:38] the responsibilities of a

[15:39] professional police department

[15:41] to ensure that we have

[15:42] guardrails. So again, I know

[15:44] this is not the presentation.

[15:45] We will have a much more robust

[15:47] presentation. But I thank you

[15:48] for the question because I

[15:48] don't want council to think

[15:51] that we just began thinking of

[15:53] these issues Tuesday. We've

[15:55] been thinking of them for a

[15:56] while, simply as a tool that

[15:59] no police department, this

[16:01] country has the luxury of

[16:01] losing. We have to us similar

[16:03] to tell my rank and file with

[16:05] regards to the trust and the

[16:07] support we get from the city.

[16:08] We need to treat that as a

[16:10] precious gift in a system such

[16:11] as this is powerful, such as

[16:12] this that can help us and has

[16:13] helped assault numerous amount

[16:16] of crimes. We treat the same

[16:19] thing.

[16:22] Thank you.

[16:22] I think thanks for that many

[16:25] presentation and the bigger

[16:26] presentation that we

[16:26] >> might have. I think we can

[16:29] all probably find examples of

[16:30] the district where the

[16:32] technology has, as you said,

[16:32] serve justice in some way,

[16:36] shape or form. I can think of

[16:37] Las Vegas trail going to but

[16:39] I'm sure we all can come of the

[16:41] examples as part of that, too.

[16:42] I'm glad to hear you're already

[16:43] thinking about how this

[16:46] technology keep it safe and

[16:47] keep we hear horror stories.

[16:49] What's happening that MAY be

[16:49] officers might be accessing it

[16:51] to find girlfriends,

[16:53] ex-girlfriends, things like

[16:53] that. And so I'm glad you're

[16:54] already looking at that to make

[16:56] sure that's not happening here

[16:58] in Fort Worth and also being

[16:59] willing to speak up to it and a

[17:01] legislative sense to make sure

[17:01] it's not happening statewide.

[17:04] I'll say this councilmember.

[17:08] >> The reality of it is is,

[17:11] you know, if there's systems.

[17:12] >> We need to do with

[17:14] them harshly purging the system

[17:14] such as this and ensure our

[17:17] city's the wrong word probably

[17:19] was severely.

[17:20] To understand how important

[17:21] this is to our community, how

[17:24] important this is to the rank

[17:26] and file for every misuse that

[17:28] there is you're putting in

[17:28] jeopardy. The amazing work that

[17:30] men and women are using with

[17:31] this technology. Every single

[17:33] day to reduce violent crime in

[17:34] our city and to protect

[17:37] victims. It's simply a tool we

[17:37] cannot lose.

[17:41] You know, I will say this just

[17:42] to kind of, you know.

[17:43] Wrap this up a little bit

[17:44] increase on khon. You hear that

[17:45] the U.S. Law does not recognize

[17:48] an absolute right to privacy in

[17:48] public spaces.

[17:49] >> And as baseline 4th

[17:52] Amendment, you know, governance

[17:53] at Christiana question.

[17:54] No, I don't have a question.

[17:54] I just want to add to what you

[17:56] and bring back is a

[17:57] presentation.

[17:59] >> I listen to the things that

[18:01] put in place and he talked

[18:03] about the success is a flop.

[18:04] i also want to see him at the

[18:04] recommendation on that

[18:08] recommendation. That

[18:10] presentation is where we have

[18:11] had missteps in the flock

[18:15] camera. If there's any where

[18:16] we have abuse and forward

[18:18] police department as well as

[18:18] nationally. So we can actually

[18:19] look at both sides and we

[18:23] actually have a conversation.

[18:25] Also, he's got a ride, won't be

[18:26] able to speak nationally

[18:28] without speaking specifically

[18:29] to individual chief. So that in

[18:30] reading media, but I can

[18:30] certainly go into what we what

[18:32] we've seen since we've been

[18:35] using that tool.

[18:36] >> Okay. Well,

[18:36] maybe legal that study is

[18:39] what's happened around the

[18:42] world. Maybe your quest who

[18:43] says he's coming back. I've had

[18:43] the opportunity several times

[18:46] to see a real time crime center

[18:47] in person. And if that has not

[18:49] been of offered to every

[18:50] council member, please do that

[18:52] and let them see if their own

[18:53] schedule to see in person asked

[18:53] the questions prior to a

[18:56] presentation is I think it

[18:58] would help a bit.

[18:59] >> And also I have a more

[18:59] informed and question answer

[19:01] session with with chief and

[19:01] command staff. So thank you.

[19:06] Have the team reading there.

[19:09] Some thank you. Chief.

[19:13] Do we have pending action on

[19:14] this? But do we have any

[19:15] speakers present that we

[19:15] needed? Lee weavers have

[19:16] registered speakers had like to

[19:18] call them. I don't believe

[19:19] either one is present.

[19:21] >> Our first registered speaker

[19:24] is and Joseph, a Dari. MR.

[19:27] Had already here.

[19:27] And then the other individual

[19:28] who wrapped who signed up to

[19:31] speak is Ryan on this. Ali.

[19:35] And then also just for the

[19:36] record, there were written

[19:37] comments that were submitted

[19:38] that were distributed to the

[19:38] board and also handed out this

[19:39] morning. They'll be on file, as

[19:42] I believe, the board members to

[19:42] see that.

[19:43] Elsewhere. Flores, yet to

[19:46] comment before we vote on the

[19:46] budget. I just want to

[19:47] compliment keys and your team.

[19:48] You work very hard behind the

[19:49] scenes and some as we ask the

[19:51] tough questions on the fly.

[19:52] And so I just

[19:52] >> I thought it was necessary

[19:53] for us to thank you all for

[19:56] your hard work working with

[19:56] pd and the rest of the team.

[19:57] >> Thank you, mayor. They've

[19:57] been doing some deep diving on

[20:02] those numbers. It is

[20:04] appreciated. All right.

[20:05] Chris, I know that you had I

[20:07] think you have some questions

[20:08] and follow-up questions.

[20:09] Mayor suggested maybe we do

[20:09] some things avail ourselves

[20:11] of, you know, some information

[20:14] prior to that. But are there

[20:18] any future agenda items?

[20:20] >> We do need action upon the

[20:21] right revive a first on the

[20:22] budget. Okay. First and second

[20:25] all in favor indicate by saying

[20:27] Aye. All right. Nas seeing none

[20:31] that passes. Now future agenda

[20:32] items. Anybody.

[20:34] Guess what I asked was if usage

[20:38] and I yeah. It's been noted

[20:40] staff. We clear on that.

[20:42] And I request okay, good.

[20:42] All right. There's no other

[20:45] business. We're adjourned at

[20:48] 10. 32.

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