[0:27] Good afternoon, we are going to go ahead and start our steady session and we're here at 5.15.

[0:34] First start with public comments. Are there any requests to speak?

[0:40] We have several requests to speak. Would you like to call them first or have the presentation and then public comments?

[0:48] Maybe we do the presentation first and then bring up, okay, okay.

[0:53] So I'll ask our public works director Scott Smith,

[0:57] you could start off the presentation.

[1:05] Mayor Council members, we have OCP staff with us today in this slide.

[1:09] The study session item gives us an opportunity to receive an update

[1:12] and also an offer some discussion.

[1:14] So with that, if we can get the presentation up,

[1:19] and reduce or invite OCPA staff to provide the presentation.

[1:26] Welcome.

[1:28] Thank you very much, Mayor.

[1:30] Mayor and members of the city council and city staff.

[1:34] My name is Joe Moskin, the CEO of Orange County Power Authority,

[1:37] and very happy to be here with you once again.

[1:40] And to my left here is Jackie Henderson.

[1:42] She is the Director of Communications and External Affairs

[1:44] for Orange County Power Authority.

[1:46] And she's going to share in some of the presentation with me tonight.

[1:49] And we'll try to be brief as possible, really talk a little bit about the change in launch date from October of this year to April of 2027.

[2:00] And then provide you with enough time to kind of answer any questions that you have.

[2:04] And of course, if there's public comment, we'll endeavor to answer as many of those questions as possible.

[2:10] So where is the quicker?

[2:15] The care.

[2:16] All right.

[2:16] All right, so so I know that you guys know a lot of this right, but what I want to do is just a couple of slides of some basic information

[2:23] I'll go through it really quickly, but just so if there are people that are kind of tuning in for the first time that we're just starting at chapter one

[2:31] So that they understand who we are what we're about. So Orange County Power Authority is a community choice aggregator

[2:36] There are 25 aggregators in the state of California. We're not for profit public agency a joint power's authority

[2:42] not unlike a lot of the other joint powers authority that you may belong to that you're

[2:47] basically working with other cities on certain services that you believe that you can do

[2:51] together collaboratively. We provide energy choice for the first time ever. Clean energy

[2:56] choices and we're also very much community focused. OCPA purchases energy from renewable and

[3:02] carbon-free resources. We don't have any shareholders. You can kind of think of us as the

[3:08] community are our shareholders.

[3:10] And so we're not for profit, that doesn't mean that we can't make a profit.

[3:13] But it means that our profit is in reinvest in our member agencies.

[3:17] So it's for purpose, and it's for benefit of our member agencies.

[3:21] Currently we have about 188,000 customer accounts for our territory.

[3:26] When Fountain Valley is launched in April, 2027, we'll have just shy of 200,000.

[3:31] So really a nice size CCA that is able to tailor its programs to its member agencies.

[3:39] We have over a collective 12 years of decades of experience with OCPA and this is just continuing to grow.

[3:48] We have some folks that are amazing intelligence smart creative folks that are working on your behalf.

[3:54] And here are some of the folks that that will be helping with with with thought and valley.

[3:59] We have CCA experience investor own utility experience municipal utility experience and also working for agencies over the years.

[4:09] So this is I know this is really simple slide, but we can always dive deeper if anybody has any questions.

[4:15] But this is really a very high level of what we do as a CCA, what OCPA does.

[4:21] So, we're purchasing energy on behalf of our customers, our customers, tell us what types of energy

[4:26] they want, when geothermal, solar, battery storage, biomass, what is it that they want?

[4:32] We're going from one option to many options.

[4:35] And so, we're procuring that energy on behalf of, or purchasing that energy on behalf of

[4:40] our customers, and then we deliver that energy to the electric grid, right?

[4:45] And then, Southern California Edison, which is our partner here, they are the utility.

[4:48] They maintain all the polls, they maintain all the wires, and then that energy is delivered to the homes and businesses in Fountain Valley.

[4:55] Let me also say that setting health on your eyes and also does all the billing.

[5:02] They also have a customer call line.

[5:05] We also have a customer call line.

[5:07] So our customers have double the customer customer help.

[5:13] There are 200 communities throughout the State of California.

[5:15] you know, there's 475 cities like yours throughout the city of California, 40 million, 40 million people throughout the state.

[5:21] 200 of those cities are within a CCA. So while OCPA is fairly new as about four years, CCA's are not new in the state of California.

[5:33] 15 million Californians are living within an area that is served by a CCA.

[5:38] And, in fact, we are CCAs collectively,

[5:41] are now the engine of purchasing energy

[5:45] and specifically clean renewable energy

[5:47] in the state of California.

[5:48] I have a statistic there that 21, 21,000 megawatts

[5:53] of clean energy purchased by collectively

[5:57] by CCA throughout the state of California.

[5:59] So that is a very large amount

[6:01] and is what's moving the energy transition right now.

[6:04] There are many benefits of community choice, and so I just put a few there, but choice.

[6:11] Choice for the first time ever.

[6:13] Currently you have one choice with your Southern California Edison and they have one basic product.

[6:17] With Orange County power authority, we have three different choices.

[6:21] And you still have the choice of staying with Southern California Edison.

[6:24] If you so choose, competition, competition is good.

[6:28] It's not only good for affordability purposes, but also customer experience.

[6:32] SC has five million customer accounts.

[6:36] Over a population of 15 million, we have 200,000 customer accounts

[6:40] over a very smaller, much smaller population.

[6:43] We can tailor our programs.

[6:45] We can tailor our offerings to our customers,

[6:47] and we can compete in a very good way.

[6:50] Local control.

[6:51] We aim to empower our residents.

[6:54] We are your representatives, sit on our board of directors.

[6:57] And they are setting the policies.

[6:59] They're setting the strategic direction.

[7:01] We hope to invest in our local communities and local generation.

[7:06] Of course, we have utility-scale generation because we're purchased a whole lot of generation.

[7:10] But we also are hopeful in investing in our local communities with local generations.

[7:15] So therefore we need a workforce not only of today, but of tomorrow.

[7:18] So we're all about investing and helping to create a workforce right here in Orange County,

[7:23] right here in Fountain Valley, as a not-for-profit model, we're not focused on profit.

[7:29] We're focused on affordability, we're focused on trust, we're focused on transparency.

[7:33] We are born of a city's goal to reduce greenhouse gases locally and to give our residents

[7:40] more and customers more options.

[7:44] We also endeavor to support our customers with customer programs that are tailored to their needs.

[7:52] We don't see our customer programs as a one-stop shop.

[7:54] We don't see it like, okay, here's the battery we're done with you.

[7:58] It's a relationship that we're building.

[8:00] We not only want to basically provide you with the latest

[8:03] and technology and innovation, right?

[8:05] But we also want to help you drive down your energy usage,

[8:09] drive down your cost.

[8:11] There's a lot of ways that you can do that.

[8:13] Customers don't know that there's now time of use.

[8:16] So there are different times that your energy is more costly.

[8:20] We want to make sure our commercial customers

[8:21] and our residential customers and our municipal customers know that.

[8:24] We want to work with them.

[8:25] We want to give white glove service to them

[8:27] to make sure that we're helping them.

[8:29] Of course, this whole thing was born out of an effort

[8:32] to reduce greenhouse gases, and there is no better strategy

[8:35] in the state of California than a community choice aggregator

[8:38] to reduce greenhouse gases locally

[8:40] that are associated with the generation of electricity.

[8:44] Recent achievements, again, there have been a lot in the last four

[8:47] years, and so I couldn't put it all on one side,

[8:49] and I know we have a limited amount of time.

[8:52] So not only are we experiencing a lot of innovation

[8:54] and technology advancements on the energy side of things.

[8:58] But also on the financial side.

[9:00] This is something I wanted to really talk about,

[9:03] which is the fact as a public agency,

[9:05] which is different than the investor owned utility,

[9:08] we basically have access to non-tax-free bonds.

[9:12] And so one of the things that other CCAs have done

[9:14] that we tried and we are very successful in our first go

[9:17] is pre-payment green bonds.

[9:20] So we're taking our long-term contracts

[9:23] and pre-paying them.

[9:24] So we went to the market just before all of the other conflict that's happening in the world.

[9:29] We went to the market with about a billion dollars, just shy of the billion dollars in long-term contracts.

[9:35] And we got one of the highest savings of any CCA in the last several years, 12.45%.

[9:42] So over five years, that's $25 million, reducing our energy costs.

[9:47] energy cost for, I mean, like any other JPA, the services are the primary, and so for OCPA,

[9:54] the primary is energy. Ninety-three percent of our costs are related to energy. Our organization

[10:00] is extraordinarily lean. So, ninety-three percent only for the cost of energy. So, driving down

[10:06] that largest IDOT line item allows us to be as competitive and as affordable in the future as possible.

[10:13] I also wanted to add that will end this fiscal year. So, our fiscal year goes from the end of

[10:17] to July. And so we'll be ending our 25, 26 fiscal year of very soon. We'll end with a positive

[10:23] result and also contributing to our reserves. We've been named the last over the last several

[10:30] years. We've consistently been named as one of the top providers of green energy in the United

[10:35] States, not just in California, but in the United States by the Department of an agency within

[10:39] the Department of Energy. Another item that I'm really proud of is the community power plan.

[10:44] This is our roadmap for designing and deploying relevant customer programs.

[10:50] So not only are we giving more choices affordable rates, competitive rates, but also we're reinvesting

[10:55] by way of customer programs.

[10:57] We're listening to our customers.

[10:58] We're listening to our memorabilia agencies.

[11:00] What do you want us to do?

[11:01] The CPP, the community power plant, was that endeavor.

[11:04] It was an opportunity to really listen to our customers and come up with a plan.

[11:08] And so now it's done and we're proud of it and now we're implementing that plan.

[11:12] So let's talk a little bit about some of the customer programs that we've just implemented

[11:16] from some of this planning.

[11:18] Yes.

[11:18] Good evening.

[11:19] Council.

[11:20] Mayor.

[11:21] Thanks, Mayor.

[11:22] Great to be here.

[11:23] Thank you for having us.

[11:24] So I did want to talk about first for our programs.

[11:26] One that is not listed here, which is our solar program, our rooftop solar program.

[11:31] So we encourage residential solar on homes.

[11:34] So we offer enhanced benefits for people that have solar panels.

[11:38] So for starters, OCPA continues to offer solar benefits that mirror the NEM 2.0 program and that is a benefit structure that's provided to people who installed solar panels before April 2023 and those customers get increased value for the energy they send up to the electric grid.

[11:56] If you've gone after that time period or even start today, that value is decreased, but we continue to offer that higher value for the energy that goes back up to the grid.

[12:07] We also offer a higher net surplus compensation rate.

[12:11] And so that SEE will give you a total amount

[12:14] at the end of the year when they true you up.

[12:16] We give you 10% more if you are a solar customer

[12:19] through OCPA.

[12:21] So I just wanted to start with that,

[12:23] because I know that's very important for Fountain Valley.

[12:25] We've been out in the community a lot.

[12:26] And we also get asked a lot about our solar program.

[12:29] So I did want to start with that.

[12:31] So our community power plan took over 14 months to develop.

[12:34] and we wanted to make sure that the programs that we offer are a benefit to our customers that are

[12:40] in addition to what SEE is offering. So if you're an OCPA customer, you remain an SEE customer.

[12:47] We're not replacing SEE. We are certainly adding value on top of SEE. And so we've done a few

[12:54] programs before our community power plan launch. We got a lot of feedback from all of our

[13:00] community advisory community, our board, city staff, city council members, different businesses in our

[13:06] member cities to make sure that what we launch going into the future for years to come is something

[13:10] that's going to be applicable to our specific communities. So ahead of that, we've launched a few

[13:15] programs that I wanted to mention. We gave away over 200 no costs, level two EV chargers, two

[13:21] hour customers, simply for being a customer and wanting to take part in our program. We've given away

[13:27] and nearly 1,500 energy efficiency kits.

[13:30] And those are easy tools for your home

[13:32] to increase your energy efficiency.

[13:34] So that's LED light bulbs, a smart strip,

[13:37] weather stripping.

[13:38] We simply just want to make you more energy efficiency,

[13:41] you're using less energy and getting less of a cost

[13:44] in your energy bill overall.

[13:45] We've also given away $1,000 for battery storage

[13:48] in one of our programs.

[13:50] We also give away a number of grants

[13:52] to community-based organizations, including in Fountain Valley.

[13:55] We want to make sure that people that are doing programs that support renewable energy or sustainability throughout their communities and know how to speak directly to the members of their communities are getting that support.

[14:06] So we've supported a number of different programs including the Girl Scouts we've given a grant to be able to have an OCPA badge for kids that are doing a renewable energy and a box kit and learning how to use solar energy to roast marshmallows.

[14:21] We've been away a grant to inside the outdoors so that they have a traveling scientist program.

[14:27] They go into classrooms and give hands on learning experience to kids and they're going to do that with renewable energy through a grant that we've been able to provide.

[14:35] Through our community powerfully, we learn that people just have a barrier to knowing what's out there and how to make easy changes to their energy bill to save money.

[14:45] So we actually gave a free webinar, which is still available on our website, so anybody that's hearing this can go to our YouTube page and watch the webinar to learn how to save money and make adjustments to your energy bill or small little things you can do around.

[15:00] Underhouse, using your blinds, to close your blinds, hanging up your clothes, little things that you can do to save money.

[15:05] Because we want to encourage that as well. We also launched out of our community power plan, our first rent or focused program.

[15:12] And this overcame the barriers of cost and landlord approval that you need to make changes in a rented home.

[15:18] And that was giving away a free HVAC system and a portable battery so that you could use all of those pieces of equipment.

[15:24] and that was free. That's about $1,500 to our customers for free. We also have partnerships with statewide

[15:31] funded programs through the U.S. Green Business Council, California Energy Commission,

[15:36] SoCal and Bay Renewable Energy Networks. Those are dollars that would not come to Orange County

[15:42] were it not for Orange County power authority being able to take that and put it directly into our

[15:46] communities. So that's just touching on a few of our programs that we have right now.

[15:52] So, OCPA continues to be extraordinarily disciplined when it comes to financial finances.

[16:00] We're prudent, we're conservative, and we're constantly thinking about the future.

[16:04] So, we'll end our, as I said, we'll end 25, 26 in the black with contributions to reserve.

[16:10] 26, 27, and fiscal year budget was just approved by our board of directors.

[16:14] And I believe you have that at your diast, and it shows, again, a balanced budget, it meets all the strategic goals that our board has set out.

[16:22] We had a strategic planning session earlier in the year, where the board laid out certain goals.

[16:27] And our budget is informed by those goals.

[16:29] And our budget supports affordability, reserve, building, and long-term financial

[16:34] sustainability.

[16:35] It contributes $14 billion to reserves at the end of the fiscal year, and it gets us back

[16:40] on the tract of rebuilding those reserves.

[16:43] It also has $2.2 million dedicated to customer programs.

[16:47] It also supports the green discount program.

[16:49] And so even as we fixed our rate for 2026, we do have a green discount program that are available

[16:55] to our customers that is pegged off the SE rate, 1% less than SE currently, and that's

[17:01] a program that we're prioritizing low-income qualified customers for, but it's open to

[17:07] everybody.

[17:07] And as Jackie just mentioned, there's a lot of dollars on the state and federal level.

[17:13] And so Orange County historically has not reached out for a lot of those dollars.

[17:16] So we are, we are a funnel for some of that, and just recently we've been able to, in the

[17:23] last fiscal year, $500,000 for our, for our, our cities, and that's just funding coming

[17:30] to OCPA.

[17:31] We also have funding that went to Buena Park and excessive that.

[17:35] There are some questions about reserves.

[17:37] So a pre-reserved policy for a load serving entity as Orange County Power Authority is around

[17:43] 30 to 50 percent of general fund costs within reserves.

[17:47] This allows for resiliency financial resiliency in the future.

[17:51] One of the biggest priorities would be the stabilization of rates into the future.

[17:56] We can dig deeper on this if you have questions on that.

[17:59] Here's the financial outlook for the next five years and reserves.

[18:02] A couple of things that I would say, high level, looking at that, the revenue requirement

[18:07] for OCPA is pretty flat, pretty stable over the next five years.

[18:11] And it also shows how we basically track with that 30% to 50% reserve margin over the next five years.

[18:19] Importantly, at 2028, you'll see the intersection of when we get up past the 30% because that's the important date that we spoke before in prior conversations that we've had here at the city council about a credit rating.

[18:30] And how important it is to have good credit for load serving entity like us because we're constantly in the market doing business purchasing energy.

[18:39] So the credit rating is extraordinarily important.

[18:42] So we're aiming to get that credit rating in 2028

[18:45] and we need to cross that line of that 30%

[18:47] to ensure a good credit rating.

[18:49] So that this is some of the planning,

[18:51] high level planning that we're selling.

[18:53] So rate setting, real fast about rate setting

[18:55] because I think this is something that has come up before.

[18:58] Generation rates have historically been set by OCPA

[19:02] at the beginning of each calendar year, right?

[19:05] And prior to 2026, our rates were essentially indexed or pegged off of Southern California

[19:12] Edison, meaning that wherever they're at, were either 2% less or were basically, you

[19:19] know, for smart choice, more one penny, more one penny and a half more for, for, for, for 100%.

[19:25] 2026 was a transitional year for us.

[19:28] We heard from our customers that they want a fixed rate, more predictability.

[19:31] Why? Because SEA's rates are 4 to 6 times a year up and down, 4 to 6 times a year up and down.

[19:38] And so can you basically hold your rates steady throughout the course of the year?

[19:44] And this is something that we proposed to our board directors.

[19:48] The rate that we had at the end of 2025,

[19:50] 13.4 cents a kilowatt hour, is a low rate.

[19:54] Everybody thought it was low in 2025.

[19:56] It was when you look at the average rate of setting California Edison over a three-year period of time

[20:02] 13.4 cents per kilowatt hour is exactly where they're at that was their norm for the last three years

[20:08] But for some regular toy changes and some shifts at the beginning of January of twenty twenty six

[20:13] They likely would be at 13.4 cents or higher. So

[20:18] In the get go they basically move to lower

[20:21] they're likely to go up. Why? Because they're at all time low now. But we locked our rates

[20:26] for 2025 for 2026 and we're also doing a cost to cost study which will allow our board

[20:33] of directors to see on a more long-term basis. What are what the resiliency, what the rates

[20:38] are for the long-term. It also allows us more information in terms of our strategy for our energy

[20:44] products and for setting our rates in the future.

[20:49] One of the things that we're looking at in this

[20:51] study is prioritizing a basic option that is indexed off the utility in the future.

[20:57] So we are going to bring back to our board of directors coming up when we set our rates,

[21:02] when we start to give information about what SCEs doing for 2027, we will present our

[21:07] board of directors with an option to have a basic option, which is less than more affordable

[21:13] than SCEs.

[21:14] So we've basically heard from our lot of our customers that the steady rate is important, but

[21:20] is a competitiveness and affordability. So we're looking at both those options of having the

[21:25] premium products that are competitive, but also having a base product that is affordable

[21:31] and less than the utility. The rate comparison, which a lot of folks have asked us about,

[21:35] is going to be on our website in early 2027 as soon as we know what the rates are going to be for

[21:41] 2027.

[21:44] So I wanted to just take a moment and share a little bit about how the enrollment process works

[21:49] for any new city coming onto a CCA, there's a 60 day window before the transition takes place

[21:55] for energy service for that city, within which the customers will all receive two regulatory

[22:01] mailings, 60 days ahead of time, and 30 days ahead of time.

[22:05] And so during that 60 day window, there is the opportunity to make changes to the plan that

[22:10] you are on.

[22:10] There is an opportunity to stay with SE and have no changes take effect to your electricity

[22:16] bill.

[22:17] And then when Spaton Valley changes over to service through OCPA in April of 2027 each customer will be rolled over to OCPA generation on their meter read date for April so that will be staggered throughout the month and upon that time you will get a second regulatory mailing and then you will get one another month out and within those 60 days you have the opportunity to make any changes to pick a different plan or to stay with SE with no changes to your electricity.

[22:45] but then you also have the opportunity to change your plan at any time or go back to

[22:51] SE at any time. So we are very flexible. We're all about choice. We certainly want

[22:55] people to be comfortable with what they feel is best for them and their family.

[22:59] And so that is something that we offer as a CCA.

[23:04] I did want to mention during the onboarding process that we are in Fountain Valley frequently.

[23:09] So we've been doing different community events. We'll be at summer fest next weekend.

[23:13] and so we're excited to see everybody there on Friday and Saturday.

[23:17] We have been doing organization presentations, just did one last week, look forward to more

[23:22] of those going back to those communities and speaking to them, which has been really great.

[23:27] We're looking at casual coffee and conversations and cafe meetings, we're working with

[23:32] our community advisory committee to do that.

[23:35] We have a couple of members here in Fountain Valley that have been critical to us, making

[23:39] sure that we're connecting with the right audiences.

[23:41] We are doing geo-targeted digital and informational videos right now so that people have familiarity with who we are and have a better understanding of what we're bringing to fountain valley

[23:50] We also have been partnering with Scott Rogers over fountain valley living to have the back cover of fountain valley living magazine every month so that people can get familiarity with who we are

[24:00] We've also had adversarial in the magazine explaining a little bit more about coming to fountain valley

[24:05] We have a landing page on our website specifically for Fountain Valley residents, and we also have one on the Fountain Valley City website

[24:12] We have static billboards running on PCTA right now. We'll be doing videos very soon to transition over to that.

[24:19] We have bus shelters and print ads. In 2027 we'll be doing some hours at the senior center to make sure that we can connect with as many people as possible if they have any questions or need any help with anything.

[24:32] And then I'll turn it back over to Joe to talk about the partnership and benefits that we offer.

[24:37] But I did want to highlight just a couple of them.

[24:39] And one that Joe spoke to earlier was the customer service that we offer.

[24:42] I get to oversee the community engagement team here at OCPA.

[24:46] And I will tell you we get frequent people in the community really grateful for the customer service that we offer.

[24:51] You can call with questions about your bill.

[24:53] We can help you save energy switcher plan.

[24:55] It comes directly to me and my team and we answer and respond to that.

[24:59] So that is definitely a benefit from what SEA is offering in addition to what they are offering.

[25:04] And they're also doing these programs that are really helping customers make better energy

[25:08] choices.

[25:09] Like Joe said, it's building a relationship with these customers so they have a trusted source

[25:13] to get information from and to seek out if they have questions about their energy and to make

[25:18] better choices in their home to save money on the long run, not just on a line on their

[25:23] bill.

[25:24] So we're a bigger value proposition than just what's going on your bill every single month.

[25:28] So, I'll turn it back over to Joe.

[25:32] I think our last slide is just simply to learn more about OCPA.

[25:36] We have all of our contacts there in terms of our, and also our social media handles.

[25:41] And we'll, we're available for questions.

[25:43] I see that you have some public comments.

[25:44] So we'll sit down if you don't have any questions.

[25:46] And we'll be here to answer any questions that you have in the future.

[25:50] Yeah, thanks, Joe.

[25:50] And Jackie, we appreciate you coming out tonight.

[25:53] And sharing information as we continue our learning about OCPA.

[25:57] uh... i don't know we have a lot of speakers

[25:59] counsel and grandest did you want

[26:01] comment

[26:02] i just a couple of questions if i could

[26:05] some of the things that i'm hit up on is that

[26:08] whitewood fountain valley join of so many cities within orange county have already

[26:13] who have participated have already dropped out

[26:16] can you tell us how many cities have actually dropped out of OCPA

[26:20] so there are uh... there's one city that has basically left

[26:24] OCP and that's the city of Huntington Beach okay, so that's just one, so yeah on social media

[26:31] I was unbarded with there's so many cities so there's been one

[26:35] Can you just I thought I heard you say this so the price right now

[26:40] Let's just be open the price right now

[26:43] At basic choice is more expensive than Edison correct 13. Yes, it's 13.4 a sense of kilowatt-hour

[26:51] Edison's is around 12 cents a kilowatt hour okay and but you said on average

[26:58] Edison goes up and down four to six times a year yes and there went on average

[27:04] over the last three years have we been more expensive less expensive are

[27:08] basically the same our basic product has been less expensive more affordable than

[27:14] the last, the entire time that OCPA has been in existence.

[27:19] So right now, a point in time is for a higher.

[27:23] Yes, because we chose to keep our rates steady,

[27:27] but we can have a product that is more competitive.

[27:31] And one thing that I heard from a lot of businesses

[27:35] is that for planning purposes and everything else,

[27:39] it's critically important to stay at the same rate

[27:42] so that it's predictable for the year.

[27:45] Are you finding that your business is?

[27:47] Yes, customers are asking.

[27:48] This is something that is very common with a lot

[27:51] of our commercial customers, small, large commercial customers.

[27:54] And the cost of study that we've endeavor to do,

[27:57] and that we're going to be presenting to you

[27:58] as a board of directors in the future,

[28:00] is really looking at that challenge

[28:02] of how do we have a basic product that is pegged

[28:06] or indexed off of utility and is less than the utility.

[28:08] But at the same time, have more dynamic

[28:12] rates such that our commercial customers have fixed rates and have more predictability and how their

[28:18] generation costs are coming in. So that's something that of a challenge that we're looking at

[28:23] and that we hope to solve in the upcoming fiscal year.

[28:27] Okay, and you talked about reserves. And basically, it's complicated issue, but from what I know,

[28:36] it's rate stabilization. So it's not reserves like the Fountain Valley General Fund reserves.

[28:41] etc. It's rate stabilization and you use those funds when prices go higher that we don't

[28:50] raise the price. You keep it the same and you any deficit you take out of the rate stabilization

[28:55] plan and then in those years when there's more, I don't want to say income, but more revenue

[29:01] than expenses, you then replenish that fund so when the rates go up and potentially in the future

[29:08] you could use that again. Is that what you use the reserves?

[29:11] Essentially, yes. Okay. One of the big concerns I hear people say is it's going

[29:19] to be hard to opt out. So can you give us in 15 seconds what it takes to opt out? Call

[29:26] us. Go online and there's a really simple process to say I want to opt out and we basically

[29:33] do a lot as Jackie just mentioned to let you know of what your options are to opt out and go back to

[29:41] SE or to go with OCPA and go with a different product than you're actually defaulted into.

[29:47] So how long do you say that would take if they went online?

[29:50] We're talking minute and hour.

[29:52] Seconds.

[29:53] So the time that it takes for people to write an email or post store.

[29:59] It's it would take

[30:00] Class time to actually opt out and stay on edison.

[30:03] And I would venture to say that you could email our customer service line and we would do it for you. So, yes.

[30:09] Okay. And then last question, and we'll get into, because I'm curious to hear the public as well, is a lot of people on social media recently have said it.

[30:18] I'm on solar panels. Can you just reconfirm? I thought you heard to say that you pay back 10% more than edison does if you have solar.

[30:27] If you're a solar customer, if you're a solar customer, you would be better off on OCPA than what they're getting through SEE.

[30:36] That is correct, yes.

[30:37] Okay, I just wanted to confirm that, because that's the question I was asked, so I wanted to ask you.

[30:42] That's like an even as of late as a state has moved toward the third iteration of NEM.

[30:49] We've stuck with the second iteration of NEM, and so we're still honoring that NEM2 program.

[30:55] And so it's even more beneficial for our customers today.

[30:59] Somebody that doesn't have rooftop solar.

[31:01] Somebody who's looking at that proposition today

[31:03] we're even more beneficial for.

[31:04] And the opt-out timing is if we start

[31:07] let's just say a pro first.

[31:08] So from February 1st, February, March, April,

[31:12] make through June 1st.

[31:14] Anybody could opt-out for any reason.

[31:16] They don't need excuse and suit your email.

[31:19] Yes.

[31:20] Phone call.

[31:20] Online fusel.

[31:21] Okay.

[31:22] All right. That sounds good.

[31:23] Thank you.

[31:24] Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead and start with public comments.

[31:29] Just one quick housekeeping item, Andrea Martell.

[31:32] You didn't put what you want to speak on.

[31:37] Is it this item?

[31:40] Okay. That's all I need to know.

[31:42] First speaker, Katie Wright.

[31:52] Hello, mayors.

[31:56] Many will come behind me, giving better statistics.

[32:01] I have a very strong opinion about

[32:05] what was freely described as adversarials.

[32:11] Anyone who's ever written for a paper knows

[32:14] actual news never allows adversarials.

[32:19] That's for the letters to the editor page.

[32:21] So the very publication that he's

[32:23] bragging about using the back page,

[32:26] I saw that right away, I know how expensive those pages are.

[32:30] I know that with this election season coming up,

[32:33] a lot of the candidates who have good funding

[32:35] are going to be buying big expensive flashy

[32:38] have tutorials and ads in that particular

[32:41] publication.

[32:46] So someone on our diet's referred to have we

[32:51] been more or less expensive.

[32:54] This person's on the board of directors.

[32:57] This person received at his mayor's ball

[33:01] a $1,500 donation to buy a table at the mayor's

[33:05] ball by OCPA.

[33:06] I'm sorry.

[33:07] I'm going to put a border.

[33:08] Yeah.

[33:08] That is a border.

[33:10] You need to address to the board on the issue.

[33:14] So to the board.

[33:16] OCPA made it.

[33:17] This is to the board.

[33:18] This is to let you know that your credibility as a group on a dius is impacted.

[33:26] Mr. Mayor, I want to go on record of saying, and this has already been talked about by our attorney, and it's been brought up at many meetings that the Chamber of Commerce put on.

[33:36] event and they bought a table there, I received no compensation, I don't know what you

[33:41] said about it, you alluded that.

[33:43] I did not allude to that, I'll just want to clear up.

[33:46] You inferred that.

[33:48] Okay.

[33:48] Go ahead.

[33:49] We've stopped with you.

[33:50] You can continue with your time.

[33:52] The big issue to me is the fact that so many citizens in this city do not have social media

[33:58] skills.

[33:59] I have mentioned this before and I know it would be expensive and not fruitful for anyone

[34:04] to try and produce a newspaper in this town.

[34:06] Newspapers go under because they're very expensive.

[34:09] They don't make a lot of money.

[34:11] But you're not communicating well enough with the public.

[34:15] The person, the entity that wants to promote this,

[34:18] has plenty of money to reinvest in the community

[34:23] and advertise and add tutorials.

[34:27] Think about that.

[34:28] Someone should look that up and give that consideration.

[34:30] The actual people who live in this town and pay taxes in this town and have decisions made for them against their will don't have the option of knowing what's going on.

[34:42] It took me two hours from Sunday till today to let someone that I care about who does not follow social media understand what OCPA even is.

[34:52] I will admit, I have it, I have a slant, but I made sure that a person knew where to look for more details and that there would be this meeting with several presentation points of you given.

[35:04] I'm not trying to tell someone what to think.

[35:08] Others are, and that's my big beef, and the city is not being transparent with letting people know the choices being made on their behalf that they don't agree with.

[35:17] Thank you.

[35:18] James Fullerton.

[35:26] Welcome. Nice presentation. My name is James Fullerton. I'm a 26-year

[35:32] fountain valley homeowner resident. I am adamantly opposed to fountain valley entering

[35:40] into an agreement with Orange County Power Association. For these reasons, OCPA does not

[35:49] generate power, OCEPA does not deliver power.

[35:54] Whatever power OCEPA buys just goes onto the grid,

[35:58] and you get the same power you are getting now.

[36:00] You're just paying more for it.

[36:03] SE provides 100% renewable electricity option to its customers as well.

[36:10] OCEPA acts as a middleman charging up to 18% more than SE.

[36:16] that's flat off of the city of Irvine's website.

[36:22] OCPA site is a misleading.

[36:25] It states alternative services,

[36:28] but it is still the CE services.

[36:32] Tax pairs, to which I am one,

[36:35] have to fund OCPA.

[36:38] If OCPA goes down,

[36:41] nice reserve study,

[36:42] Fountain Valley will lose all funding.

[36:46] That's a risk.

[36:48] Honeycomb Beach, our neighboring city, did leave OCPA due to mismanagement, the lack of transparency

[36:57] and rising electoral costs, and that also off the website.

[37:04] Mr. Grandus and Mr. Bury are board members of OCPA. Mr. Bury is an alternate.

[37:10] I don't like that brings ethics to mind for me. All I have to say is

[37:18] including, follow the money, not the climate change hyperbole. Thank you very much.

[37:27] Next speaker, Shankara Singh.

[37:40] Good afternoon, Mayor Kaneen, Vice Mayor Harper and

[37:44] city council members, Bui, Ganges, and Conciting.

[37:49] Did I pronounce it right?

[37:50] Yes, okay.

[37:52] Hi, my name is Chantala Singh,

[37:54] and I am with the Asian Business Association

[37:57] of Orange County.

[37:59] And so many of our members live and own businesses

[38:05] in this great city of Fountain Valley.

[38:09] We are also excited.

[38:12] Fountain Valley is bringing in OCPA because they are so community-centered and have demonstrated

[38:21] a genuine interest in serving all your residents, listening to diverse community voices

[38:28] and giving people something so powerful choice that we all love it. We so appreciate your leadership

[38:36] ship and all your time energy and hard work that makes Fountain Valley such a wonderful place

[38:44] to live, work and own a business in. Thank you.

[38:49] Harvey Lewis.

[39:01] Thank you, Mayor. Vice Mayor and Council members. I'm Harvey Lewis, a resident

[39:05] of Irvine since 1976, former Irvine Planning Commissioner and the License Professional Civil

[39:11] Engineer. First, I should say that this isn't really a study session. We've had a half

[39:16] of a propaganda session. You should offer me another half hour in the future to propose an opposition

[39:24] session in which it will get some facts which are very different for what you've just heard.

[39:30] Here is the easiest way to explain why it is impossible for OCPA to help the environment

[39:35] better than Southern Caledicin, what to change, charge low rates compared to SEE. 20 years

[39:42] to go. Renewable generated electric energy was much more expensive than fossil fuel generated

[39:47] energy. So then the investor owned utilities like SE purchased fossil fuel generated power

[39:54] rather than renewably generated electricity because it was a lot cheaper. In those days,

[40:00] the only way for environmentally concerned ratepayers to reduce their contribution to global

[40:05] warming was to subscribe to a community choice aggregator like OCPA that purchased the

[40:12] are expensive, then, renewably-generated energy, and, as due-gooder subscribers, happily

[40:18] paid the higher bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

[40:22] Now, renewably-generated electric power has, for the last five years or so, been much cheaper

[40:28] than fossil-feel-generated electric power.

[40:30] So the investor-owned utilities, like SE, purchase as much renewably-generated power as they

[40:36] can buy and actually get on the grid, saturating the grid with renewably-generated energy during

[40:42] Today, OCPA with no in-house energy trading expertise and lack of scale cannot compete with

[40:48] Southern Caledicin in the purchase of renewable-generated energy contracts.

[40:53] So OCPA must hire outside consultants and highly commissioned energy traders who charge

[40:59] big fees and have no incentive whatsoever to minimize costs while SE's employees with

[41:05] massive experience and the institutional need to maximize profit for SE have every incentive

[41:11] to minimize costs, which means maximizing their purchase of renewable-generated power that

[41:17] can be put on the grid.

[41:19] And SE's profit margin is roughly comparable to the Commission's paid by OCPA.

[41:25] So OCPA has no cost advantage whatsoever as an unprofit.

[41:29] It is impossible for OCPA to put cheaper electricity with higher-enoubles content than SE

[41:34] on the grid.

[41:36] And if they charge cheaper rates, it must be subsidized, and they cannot do that for

[41:40] long. SE has now abandoned their 50% and 100% tears of renewables for new subscribers, because

[41:49] the legitimate additional renewables generated power is not available.

[41:54] The SE recommends several significant community renewables programs with which is subscribed.

[41:58] They can contact contract directly and results in SE bill.

[42:02] However, your time is up.

[42:04] Thank you.

[42:05] Tom Chaman,

[42:14] thank you very much.

[42:15] Thank you very much everybody.

[42:18] is it on? Okay. My name is Tom Chowman from Irvine of the 30 years moved out here from Indiana

[42:25] 40 years ago. Back in 1972, I was crushing plastic and crushing cans for recycling before

[42:33] it was cool. So I do love an environment. However, as a resident of Irvine, I am not, I use

[42:45] how it was going to go. It was a good idea when it started, but it's kind of been a financial

[42:51] nightmare of $700,000. The city of Irvine pays more in electricity through OCPA than with

[42:57] SCE. What I did is I put solar panels on my house and that's helped me with my electricity bill.

[43:05] That's that's what I believe in. Something about Irvine, 75% of Irvine does participate in the OCPA,

[43:12] 25% are with SE State average, or is like 18%, and 82%, and the reason why is we tried to educate

[43:24] everybody in Irvine a lot more about the fine print and to get into it and out of it,

[43:29] it's fairly easy to get out if you want, you just got to read the five print.

[43:32] Most people don't even know they're in it until they get educated on it, so that's where Irvine's

[43:39] And I just believe that the renewable energy, also right now,

[43:46] residential in July of 2025, 96,000 people used basic choice only 1237 people use renewable energy.

[43:57] A question for someone to ask on this is in the city of Irvine, or in what do they expect

[44:02] in fountain valley?

[44:03] How many people can get 100% renewable energy like they're promoting?

[44:07] It's really not the case.

[44:08] They buy it from SE, SE doesn't have enough, they can only sell so much.

[44:13] So I hope you make a careful choice for your citizens and you save them money.

[44:18] There's no reason to raise their rates 8 to 15% for to give out $1,000 solar batteries.

[44:26] So that's all. Thank you.

[44:29] Stephen Schwartz.

[45:00] Good evening, mayor, and city council. Speaking tonight, regarding our city's partnership with Orange County Power Authority.

[45:09] When we talk about OCPA, there's a common misconception that this is a complete risky replacement of Southern California medicine.

[45:19] But it's vital to clarify that OCPA is not an alternative to SCE, but it's a partner.

[45:28] OCPA only handles power generation.

[45:31] The act is our local purchasing agent buying wholesale clean energy at levels each resident

[45:38] specifies and puts it into the grid.

[45:43] SE on the other hand, still owns operates 100% of the physical infrastructure.

[45:50] When something goes wrong, SE comes out.

[45:55] Our billing remains consolidated.

[45:58] We don't separate it for OCTA.

[46:01] SE just takes out the generation portion and puts in OCPAs.

[46:08] The most compelling reason, though, is in this partnership,

[46:13] is a win for the city, because it gives us low local accountability.

[46:18] With S.E. critical energy decisions are made by corporate executives and boards, accountable

[46:25] to Wall Street shareholders.

[46:28] The regulatory oversight happens way up in San Francisco with the CPEUC making nearly

[46:37] impossible for local input.

[46:42] OCPA has flipped that corporate top-down model.

[46:46] It's governed by a board of directors made up of city council members from the participating cities.

[46:59] Look, I've got it back up.

[47:20] Because there are local representatives, they're directly accountable to us, the voters.

[47:25] Furthermore, the community advisory committee, which I am a member,

[47:30] is comprised of appointed local residents and stakeholders, ensuring our community has direct seat at the table.

[47:38] Finally, wow, ACE prioritizes profit margins for global investors, OCPA, as a public non-profit agency.

[47:48] Any financial surpluses generated are designated to be reinvested back into our community.

[47:55] Allowing us to fund localized, rebates, energy efficiency programs, community incentives, tailored specifically for our needs.

[48:03] Stephen your times up. D fox. Mr Mayor. Mr Mayor. Just for clarification. But those who may

[48:13] know may not know. First of all I want to thank you Mr. Swartz. He also served on OCPA as the

[48:20] advisory committee on the residential side. So just for. Yeah, I know. But I pointed by my colleague

[48:29] the current director, so just want that there we go.

[48:33] And just the pause moment, I just wanted to check with the city clerk how many more speakers

[48:38] we have on the study session matters only. We have 13 more speakers. 13 more speakers. Okay, so

[48:46] we're five minutes past the start of the meeting.

[48:53] So why don't we talk about how we want to proceed on that? We could continue on with the speakers

[48:58] and do the full 13. I'll take us into at least 7 o'clock.

[49:05] Well, Robert.

[49:06] Yeah, and the interest of time, I think just maybe we continue this discussion until the next council meeting.

[49:14] And the next council meeting?

[49:16] Yeah, I think too many people are 13 people or been waiting an hour to speak.

[49:20] I don't think that's going to be too long for them to wait.

[49:22] And everything.

[49:23] I mean, this has been announced.

[49:24] I don't think you're microphone.

[49:27] Mr. Mayor, this meeting has been announced at this topic for funds.

[49:34] We must keep going because we're going to lose people theoretically here in the audience at home wherever they're watching.

[49:42] If this is true, the unfortunate situation, but this is our only chance to divide us this.

[49:50] Okay, let's continue on. Thank you, ma'am. Good and speak.

[49:58] Residents deserve a transparent comparison between the Orange County Power Authority and Southern California Edison.

[50:04] When OCPA was sold to the public, residents were promised cleaner energy, competitive rates, and local control.

[50:11] But today, many customers are paying more while receiving power that is not necessarily cleaner than what they would receive from Southern California Edison.

[50:19] The reality is that SE remains responsible for delivering electricity, maintaining the grid, restoring power during outages and handling customer related to transmission and distribution.

[50:33] OCPA does none of those things. OCPA simply purchases electricity on the market and adds its own layer of administration and overhead.

[50:41] Residents should ask a simple question, if SEE is providing the infrastructure and in many cases offering rates that are equal to or lower than OCPA, what exactly are rate pairs receiving any exchange for paying more.

[50:55] At the same time, OCPA has faced financial challenges, sought loans, relied on waivers from lenders and continues to carry significant operational costs.

[51:05] Yet we see discussions about enhanced employee benefits, generous retirement contributions and expanding compensation packages while rate payer struggle with rising utility bills.

[51:16] The public deserves full transparency. Every resident should be shown a side-by-side comparison of OCEPA and SCE rates. Power sources, greenhouse gas, admissions, executive compensation, employee benefits, opt-out rates and overall financial performance.

[51:32] If OCPA truly provides a better value, then let's let the data speak for itself, but if residents are paying more for electricity that is no cleaner while funding a growing bureaucracy, then local leaders have a responsibility to acknowledge that reality and consider whether continuing down this path is truly in the best interest of airline families and businesses, and I also want to add just space on what Mr. Moscow had stated.

[51:59] Um, originally signed up with the OCPA was late for his hunting to be each and the county of Orange.

[52:06] All three are out. Lake Forest got out, hunting to be each got out, and the county of Orange got out.

[52:11] In fact, Mr. Moscow should know that the county of Orange got out because they're in a lawsuit with them right now.

[52:18] And then also those programs that they speak of are referral sources.

[52:22] If you click on those on their website, you'll see OCPA does nothing in the way of helping communities.

[52:27] These programs are offered to everyone regarding solar panels, OCPA board member, Captain Intercedor stayed at that if you stay with OCPA, you do not have to put solar panels on your roof.

[52:39] She is also not an OCPA customer. She lives at UCI and they have their own microgrid.

[52:46] So there you go, while she sits there on the board of the OCPA and votes to increase rates, it doesn't affect her. Thank you.

[52:53] Connor Troy.

[53:00] Welcome. Hi.

[53:04] Good evening. Mayor Cunning and Vice Mayor Harper in City

[53:10] Council members. We grand is and Constantine. Hi. My name is Connor Troy and I'm a

[53:17] 24 year old entrepreneur and small business owner and I'm speaking today on behalf of

[53:21] my beloved great uncle Steve Tishiro. Who's right behind me and he has lived in

[53:30] city for partnering with the Orange County power authority and offering him and all of

[53:35] found values. Residents a choice to us that choice means freedom to decide where

[53:42] our energy comes from, where we want to be and the people that we want to have around

[53:47] us. We're excited to soon be able to choose OCPA as our provider because their top priorities

[53:54] are community and the environment and speaking for myself and my generation I've grown up

[53:59] in Orange County in an Irvine for over 18 years and my friends and I are genuinely grateful

[54:06] for the OCPA and all that they do for the community and for the people here in Orange County.

[54:11] We see them as helping protect the planet that we're going to inherit one day and that we're

[54:16] hopefully going to run with a good head on our shoulders and yes so I thank you for bringing

[54:21] OCPA to our community for listening to us and for giving us a voice. Thank you.

[54:28] Laura Sennanian.

[54:39] Good evening, Mayor and Honourable City Council. My name is Laura Sennanian and I serve

[54:48] actually nine boards. I have a leadership role in nine organizations including co-founder of

[54:56] Arab American Business Chamber, current president of the American Business Woman Association here in

[55:05] Orange County on the board of the Philippine Chamber, and as well as a member of the Fontam Valley Chamber.

[55:14] I want to take a moment to express my appreciation for your consideration of OCPA.

[55:20] As someone actively involved with businesses, nonprofits and community organizations throughout the region,

[55:27] I have seen firsthand the importance of partnering with organizations that are committed to serving residents

[55:34] and creating positive community impact.

[55:39] OCPA has demonstrated a strong commitment to community engagement, education,

[55:45] and providing resources that help individuals and families make informed choices.

[55:52] Their focus extends beyond services.

[55:54] They genuinely invest in the well-being of the communities they serve.

[55:59] Thank you for your leadership, your dedication

[56:02] to the residents of Fontam Valley and for taking the time to consider opportunities that

[56:09] can benefit our community.

[56:11] I appreciate your service and thoughtful consideration.

[56:15] Thank you.

[56:18] On Zoom, next is Tomas Castro.

[56:24] Good evening, Council.

[56:25] My name is Tomas Castro, and I am proud of organizing with climate action campaign.

[56:31] As you discussed this study session item tonight, I want to reiterate the many benefits

[56:34] that found belly residents receive once the city launches, whether that be in October or next

[56:40] date.

[56:41] So one, membership in the CCE.

[56:44] I'm sorry.

[56:44] Can you ask the speaker to speak a little louder?

[56:47] It's hard to hear him.

[56:50] I'm sorry.

[56:50] Can you speak a little louder, please?

[56:53] Sure.

[56:55] And so, in California, we are all familiar with so-called medicine, monopoly, utility, constantly

[57:01] raises rates on families.

[57:03] They're unchallenged market power.

[57:05] as resulted in one in five so-called households being behind of their bills by an average of

[57:10] beyond $100. With the CPA, more families have a path out of this unbounded relationship.

[57:16] And I would encourage everyone there who is going to bat for SE, whether they would do the same

[57:20] for you. The city council will need the right decision in 2024 to join us compete to delay the

[57:26] launch will ensure that programs and benefits associated with SE's are adequately implemented in

[57:32] I encourage you to stay with course, to not let misinformation from outside parties, the rail level will ultimately be a beneficial course of action for the city.

[57:42] Thank you.

[57:45] On Zoom, Craig Preston?

[57:47] Welcome.

[57:53] Craig?

[57:54] Hello, Found Valley Council Mayor and Vice Mayor.

[57:58] Craig Preston, coast of Mesa.

[58:00] I run a climate group called Citizens Climate Lobby, Orange County Coast.

[58:04] we have members all throughout the area there. Just wanted to speak briefly about how OCPA has

[58:11] been long and coming, it improves itself each year. It's kind of like sailing. Sometimes you go

[58:17] into the wind, sometimes you go downwind, you've got to tack back and forth and I'm so impressed

[58:21] with OCPA getting better every day in what they do. Mr. Moscow presented a slide of how their

[58:28] staff continues to be improved each year. So I'm just wanted to say that I've been waiting for

[58:34] is that out of all counties on the coast of California, Orange County is the last one that

[58:40] had the option of a CCA, a community choice aggregator, or community choice energy.

[58:46] I'm so glad we have this option. I live in coast to Mesa and our city. I hope it's going to

[58:50] be moving there soon. But we're watching to see other cities that are heroic to jump at

[58:54] something new. But yeah, it's a little scary sometimes. And I just want to say,

[58:59] it's obviously a monopoly of power is not going to go away easily. They make so much money

[59:04] off of us as ratepayers and they don't want to give that up so I'm wanting to thank you for

[59:09] your consideration to continue to build this program and be part of it and I hope you stay.

[59:16] I was impressed with the slide that said 21,000 megawatts of clean energy power have been put on the

[59:23] grid because of CCA's in California. They wouldn't have been there without them. It gets local control

[59:30] choice to consumers and is done by a nonprofit organization that is accountable to the public,

[59:36] just like all of you who are accountable to the public, they'd like to do CCSEE is not

[59:41] elected officials. Thank you.

[59:46] On Zoom, Eric Leaver. Welcome.

[59:57] Eric.

[1:00:00] This is my turn. My name is Eric Lieber. I'm a found dollar resident for 34 years. I'm speaking today in support of the Orange County

[1:00:10] power authority. I believe that having the option to choose between those TPA and Edison will have

[1:00:19] a beneficial effect on class. This has been pointed out. Edison has been raising its rates in

[1:00:25] system way and plan to raise the need and more. Without the pressure of competition, if

[1:00:32] they are kind of able to do that with impunity, I believe that competition has to have

[1:00:37] a beneficial effect on the toss of electricity for our residents. Also, I leave there's a lot of

[1:00:45] other benefits of having a choice. Costing our service, I think that, you know, Edison could do a better

[1:00:53] I think that having an option to go to a different server may induce them to provide better service.

[1:01:03] And residents will have a choice.

[1:01:05] They want to go with Edison or post EPA.

[1:01:07] They don't have to go with a CPA, but they will have a choice.

[1:01:11] And the other thing with the choice is that we will have a state in how our electricity can

[1:01:16] generated. We cannot currently tell Edison how we want them to generate electricity. We don't

[1:01:23] have the options to go to clean and non fossil fuel sources of electricity. We're kind

[1:01:31] of out there with their mercy. But I think that Edison is kind of put their cell on scale

[1:01:39] against rooftop solar, and in terms of their unwillingness to compensate, people who invest

[1:01:47] in rooftop solar,

[1:01:50] and therefore taking away that choice from value residents to be able

[1:01:54] to generate their own electricity and sell that back to the power authority in order to

[1:02:01] compensate themselves for the investment. And obviously, we need to move to cleaner source

[1:02:08] of energy to reduce greenhouse gases. Also, I'm understanding that OCDA has the option

[1:02:15] of certain programs for rebates on energy-efficient appliances and the ability to go to

[1:02:25] electrification to remove appliances that are producing greenhouse gases. So as a

[1:02:35] I was trying to find out the rest of it.

[1:02:37] We've heard a lot of people today who are from outside the city.

[1:02:41] I believe it will be very beneficial to our citizens and I hope that we will stay

[1:02:46] in the course and continue to go with the OCPA.

[1:02:51] The last speaker on Zoom, Beth Hambleton.

[1:02:55] Welcome.

[1:02:59] She's going to be a different issue.

[1:03:02] Beth?

[1:03:04] She's going to be far enough.

[1:03:07] Beth.

[1:03:11] Did you want to speak about OCPA or...

[1:03:13] or Orange Coast Memorial.

[1:03:25] Beth, you can't hear them, but they can hear you go ahead.

[1:03:29] Oh, thank you.

[1:03:30] Okay, very good.

[1:03:31] Good evening.

[1:03:32] My name is Beth Hamilton, and I just want to thank you, Mayor

[1:03:35] Coneen, Vice Mayor Harper, and Council for getting me the opportunity

[1:03:39] to remotely express my support for the parking structure

[1:03:43] proposal that's at Orange Coast Medical Center.

[1:03:46] Beth, is the wrong issue?

[1:03:49] This is the wrong issue.

[1:03:50] We're not on that item yet.

[1:03:52] I'm going to put you back on mute, okay?

[1:03:57] Next speaker is Libby,

[1:04:02] but I have a problem here

[1:04:03] and you, so I'll just interpret that.

[1:04:06] Welcome.

[1:04:10] Hi, my name is Libby Fallekman, a 27-year-homeowner here in Thoughton Valley. I'm here to support

[1:04:16] OCPA coming to Thoughton Valley and I've been anxiously awaiting its implementation.

[1:04:20] And as a homeowner with NM-2 panels on my roof, I am even more excited about it having heard

[1:04:27] that I'm going to get more money back from OCPA than I do for medicine.

[1:04:31] I believe we should have a choice in our electricity provider.

[1:04:34] For too long, we've been controlled by a monopoly-powered provider and forced to use Southern

[1:04:40] California Edison.

[1:04:42] As a result of deregulation, we have a choice for the source of our electricity.

[1:04:46] Like when AT&T was broken up, we didn't need new phone lines into our homes.

[1:04:51] We were able to select any phone provider and the service continued on the lines we had.

[1:04:56] In this case, Edison provides the lines into our homes, but we can choose a different

[1:05:01] energy provider.

[1:05:03] OCPA is not for profit and to be focused on the community, and I want to see that benefit

[1:05:08] for Fountain Valley.

[1:05:10] For those that like tradition or have some allegiance to Edison, they can choose to

[1:05:15] back to SEA any time they want. As for me, I can't wait until my household is part of the

[1:05:21] SEPA. Thank you.

[1:05:24] Thank you, Johnson.

[1:05:30] Welcome.

[1:05:30] Good afternoon, I'm Vicky Johnson. I lived in Irvine when OEPA started. I followed it a long time.

[1:05:37] It's really not performing well at all. I am absolutely amazed that the CEO,

[1:05:50] the

[1:05:50] prices are. Today, and for all of 2006, they say, SE would be $200,000 per month for

[1:06:00] an average home. OCPA, $25,000 more per month, $25 for at least for an average home is what

[1:06:12] OCPA is charging. Now some of the people here speaking in favor of OCPA may not even know

[1:06:19] that this year, the price is exploded.

[1:06:22] Now, why is that?

[1:06:23] Because OCPA lost 45 million from the reserves.

[1:06:28] Yes, they moved reserves into the rate stabilization fund,

[1:06:31] but now it's exhausted, 45 million they lost,

[1:06:34] and they have to make up for that loss

[1:06:37] and more expenses and hiring that they keep adding.

[1:06:41] So why?

[1:06:42] Should fountain valley pay for the 45 million

[1:06:46] reserves that OSP has already lost, and you saw a graph up there, they went to raise the reserves

[1:06:53] up to whatever 150 million. They went fountain valley to fund their reserves and all the

[1:07:01] XXX expenses. The solution is simple to this. OSP is not what you signed up for two years ago.

[1:07:09] It's changed. It's been financially troubled and struggling and it's just a mess.

[1:07:17] So, the easy solution is for fountain valley to withdraw from its agreement with OCPA.

[1:07:24] If you wait until April 2027, fountain valley will have started incurring a lot of liability.

[1:07:31] $17 million a year in power purchases.

[1:07:36] You can't wait and easily get out of this mess.

[1:07:40] By the way, I think the beach gave good reasons for getting out, so did Lakeport so did

[1:07:45] the county of Orange.

[1:07:47] Costa Mesa, just last November, recommended against joining OSUGA, because of financial disability,

[1:07:55] just financial instability.

[1:07:57] So, it's very important, I think, that you consider withdrawing from OCPA immediately until

[1:08:04] its financial performance really, truly improves, and you're not hearing the marketing

[1:08:09] spiel because all of fountain values can be paying a lot of money just to rebuild reserves.

[1:08:16] Let alone all the extra expenses they add to the cost of energy.

[1:08:21] Thank you.

[1:08:22] Andrea Martel.

[1:08:30] Welcome.

[1:08:30] council members. I'm kind of new to this issue, but my background was in financial planning, administrative services, real estate.

[1:08:41] It seems to me that this OCPA is a new layer of administration inserted in there.

[1:08:48] They're leaving the balance of the maintenance of the infrastructure on Southern California, Edison, and just taking profits for beating a purchasing agent.

[1:08:59] And that doesn't make sense to me and I don't understand why there are so many cities that are bailing out of this, but that should be a big red flag. It would be to me.

[1:09:13] And I don't see why we need this. I mean, I love all the PR and the community service and all of that.

[1:09:18] But Southern California, Edison is still going to have to maintain all the infrastructure.

[1:09:23] And it's not like a phone line which it now is on, you know, out and mid-air, they've got wiring and telephone poles.

[1:09:30] I've got two telephone poles in my backyard and they're right there and they, anyway.

[1:09:36] I appreciate the service I get from them.

[1:09:39] Thank you.

[1:09:41] Lest in True Blood.

[1:10:02] I go down.

[1:10:04] Well, I've been in sales and marketing probably about 50 years and I really love fantasy.

[1:10:12] fantasy land, wizard of eyes, pretty, you know, lure in the water, glitter presentations and that's pretty much what I've seen tonight from O.C.

[1:10:24] What do we call power authority?

[1:10:28] As a resident and a taxpayer, I would specifically love to see bullet points from the cities

[1:10:37] that have been mentioned of why they first associated with this organization and left.

[1:10:43] As a resident, I'd like to see that.

[1:10:44] I haven't seen that.

[1:10:45] I've heard all the, you know, wonderful.

[1:10:48] It's going to be green and you're going to just love it kind of stuff.

[1:10:51] But I'd love to see those bullet points, and I'd love to have these folks answer those specific questions that are supplied by these other cities and their residents of why it just kind of didn't work out and they decided to divorce themselves from the power authority.

[1:11:13] I'd also like to know that if the Orange County Power Authority makes some really bonehead financial moves,

[1:11:22] and they go into the red or their sued individuals or organizations, what is the liability to the City of Fountain Valley and its residents?

[1:11:35] Thank you very much for hearing me.

[1:11:41] Brian Jennings.

[1:11:54] Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Kineen, Vice Mayor Harper, a steam city council and city staff.

[1:11:58] My name is Brian Jennings. I'm a community volunteer here in Fountain Valley,

[1:12:03] group here in Fountain Valley, went to Cox, Masuda, and a family high school.

[1:12:08] So I've been here quite a while. I've seen a lot of changes happen in the area,

[1:12:11] served in the community volunteer position the last 14 years. So I've been in chair of various

[1:12:18] Organizations on the panels for other organizations and see many things. I think a most of the point is all the misinformation we're getting here tonight about OCPA

[1:12:27] I think they're getting a bad rap or stuff that happened three years ago that no longer exists the situation is totally different. It's not the same organization

[1:12:33] They were then

[1:12:34] If you do your homework, you go back and look and see all the finances all that stuff

[1:12:39] This is totally different organization that was that. So if you come back and leave everything now if you don't have change

[1:12:44] You don't have competition, let's say we didn't have all these gas stations on the corner right

[1:12:48] here, would you be getting $6 gas, maybe getting $12 gas.

[1:12:53] What happened to your homeowners insurance policies the past three years have they gone down?

[1:12:58] You know why?

[1:12:59] There's no competition out there.

[1:13:02] Neacompatition to breed change and to breed price seam structures and stuff like that.

[1:13:05] It's six-time to do that, but what's not right for you to keep this in mind?

[1:13:09] Might be right for your neighbor, so give them a chance that these policies and things

[1:13:12] because you know just because it doesn't work for you, you don't have to change. You can stick with what you have now. That's not, you know,

[1:13:19] taking take on away from you. So let's keep that in mind going forward and I really appreciate your

[1:13:24] base last night, everybody can out tonight and looking forward to your guys decision. I'm obviously in favor of

[1:13:29] of OCPA. So thank you. Chris. Yes, I can't read your last name.

[1:13:39] Yes, sir.

[1:13:54] Thank you. Mary, welcome, Mayor Coneen and the members of City Council. My name is Chris

[1:14:02] Hillgrave, I've lived in Fountain Valley since 1986. We are paying exorbitant rates for

[1:14:08] a basic human necessity right now. That's our entire community is paying rates that have

[1:14:14] raised 83% since 2016.

[1:14:19] Such extreme increases in rates happen in part because there is no competition.

[1:14:24] That's a topic that's been brought up a lot here, but it has an enormous value for everybody

[1:14:29] in this country.

[1:14:32] We citizens of Fountain Valley have had no choice up to now, but to give all our energy

[1:14:38] business to Southern California Edison.

[1:14:41] and Southern California Edison is a monopoly that is set up to make profits for their shareholders.

[1:14:48] Not to do what is best for their customers.

[1:14:51] That might explain a little bit about the increase in rates over the last 10 or 15 years.

[1:14:58] They don't...

[1:15:00] Profit by reducing costs for us. They profit by creating new infrastructure that they build. Our welfare is not their biggest priority. In fact, it doesn't seem to be a priority at all to them.

[1:15:14] Change outside the walls of Southern California Edison is way overdue and can only be a good thing for the citizens of Fountain Valley.

[1:15:25] And the reason for that is because we will surely benefit from some competition for our energy business.

[1:15:32] Nobody will have to actually sign up for Orange County Power Authority.

[1:15:37] They can stick with Southern California Edison. It's no problem.

[1:15:40] Even if Orange County Power Authority starts off saving

[1:15:46] Fountain Valley citizens just 3% that's better than our present

[1:15:50] SE rate and Orange County Power Authority would be motivated

[1:15:55] to continue to work to reduce costs even more to keep

[1:15:59] and grow their business because that's something that they're

[1:16:02] interested in accomplishing unlike Southern California Edison.

[1:16:07] I don't know any more than any of you, and I'm not smarter than any of you.

[1:16:12] Our city has elected many of you for your extensive business experience.

[1:16:18] I just want to express my appreciation for all the hard work and many hours spent by each

[1:16:23] of you on the City Council for us.

[1:16:27] And express appreciation as well for the work of our wonderful fountain valley city staff

[1:16:32] to reach this point.

[1:16:33] I am hopeful that all this garnered expertise in large amount of effort will provide the expected

[1:16:41] result that has been planned for and submitted as being recommended by the city staff that

[1:16:49] fountain valley will join with the Orange County Power Authority to give fountain valley an

[1:16:54] exciting and less costly energy future for all of us citizens of fountain valley.

[1:17:00] Chris, your time is up. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:17:03] Anna Katsuki.

[1:17:13] Thank you. Anna Katsuki. And I'm a resident of Fountain Valley wasn't planning to speak tonight.

[1:17:18] I am not an expert when it comes to utilities. OCPA versus Edison. All I can tell you is my own personal feelings.

[1:17:28] So, I don't know about everybody else, but it seems like every, I'm going to exaggerate a little bit.

[1:17:34] Every few months I get that little piece of paper that says your rates are going to go up.

[1:17:39] And I felt so frustrated because every time I turned around, Edison's rates were going up.

[1:17:44] And I felt like if I lit a candle, I'd go from Tier 1 to Tier 3 without doing anything.

[1:17:52] So I, in last year, OCPA came to the Fountain Valley Women's Club meeting.

[1:17:56] And so I did a little homework and I did go on an AI platform to compare OCPA with SE for my personal situation.

[1:18:04] and OCPA came out a little bit ahead.

[1:18:08] In 2014, because I was sick and tired of Edison raising their rates,

[1:18:13] I was paying 22.3% per kilowatt.

[1:18:16] We got solar.

[1:18:18] I know it was expensive and I convinced my husband.

[1:18:21] He went along with it.

[1:18:22] Best decision I ever made.

[1:18:24] Today you're paying 34 to 35 cents per kilowatt.

[1:18:27] It's going to 50 to 60%.

[1:18:30] I don't do that.

[1:18:32] I don't pay that.

[1:18:32] Now, I do have to say, I have not had to pay an electric bill for years.

[1:18:37] For the first time this year, I had to pay money to Edison.

[1:18:42] So, I'm checking on the AI plate and it's because of the rates increasing.

[1:18:47] And now, instead of them paying me, I know I had to pay them for the first time.

[1:18:51] And I've had the electric solar panels since 2014.

[1:18:55] So, for me, I'm very open to OCPA. I believe in giving them a shot. If you don't like

[1:19:03] them, opt out. But my experience with Edison has not been a good one, and that's the reason

[1:19:09] I went with solar because I was sick and tired of having my rates raised every, I felt like

[1:19:15] every few months. So, thank you.

[1:19:18] Microwave.

[1:19:27] Thank you.

[1:19:27] I'm Microwave.

[1:19:29] Oh, choice.

[1:19:30] Yeah, that's a really good idea.

[1:19:33] Right?

[1:19:33] It's really a good idea.

[1:19:34] Here's a way to implement that.

[1:19:37] Instead of having OCPA automatically opt you in, have them automatically opt you out.

[1:19:46] And then each individual customer can look and examine and ask themselves,

[1:19:51] Is this something I want to do my cadress the council I'll excuse me my voice carries over the back of my head

[1:20:00] But so I think that would be a great way to implement choice instead of just leaving it up to a council where the dyes is already sort of unbored with

[1:20:13] OCPA the way I read it another thing outside forces coming to speak here

[1:20:20] It's not the fountain valley of power authority, it's not the fountain valley power authority, it's the Orange County power authority.

[1:20:31] Anyone in Orange County is appropriate to speak about this subject.

[1:20:38] Even Mr. Castro, if he lives in Orange County, welcome a board, sir.

[1:20:42] So, let's get realistic about what choice means, and let's recognize that it's not the fountain valley authority, power authority, it's the Orange County power authority, and they will have a superrogatory power over your government, and it's not going to be good for you.

[1:21:06] By the way, let's see how much time do I have here.

[1:21:10] I attend many of the OCPA board meetings, and I see gentleman on this dyes there.

[1:21:19] I never see them speaking against anything or actually voting rather against anything that OCPA asks them to approve.

[1:21:30] They always perform almost.

[1:21:32] It's almost as if their obligation is primarily to OCPA, not to the residents that you represent or should represent here at home.

[1:21:45] You have a fiduciary obligation to look out for your customers. Why charge them more from something they can get cheaper from a reliable regulated source. OCPA ain't really regulated.

[1:22:00] did. Thank you very much. I have no other request to speak. Okay, thank you. Open up to

[1:22:08] Council for maybe some closing comments.

[1:22:12] Closing. Councilwoman Constantine. Mayor Kenine, I came prepared. I mean, a lot of it I have

[1:22:18] notes from here, but this is going to take a while. And I mean, it's well-deserved because

[1:22:26] we are here, this is our only opportunity and there's so many holes in this thing.

[1:22:31] You want me to go ahead?

[1:22:33] You have it before.

[1:22:34] Okay.

[1:22:34] Thank you.

[1:22:35] Well, quite frankly, when I voted up here in October of 2024 and then again, on November of 2024, I got it right.

[1:22:43] Lake Forest was actually a member.

[1:22:46] And our meetings are recorded and they are part of our city's history, so they really should be accurate.

[1:22:52] As we've heard, SE is much more.

[1:22:54] Council member Constantine, can you speak to them?

[1:22:56] I got people in this, they can't hear you from them.

[1:22:59] no problem. So anyway, Southern California rates are more reasonable. There's a lot of people

[1:23:06] excited to pay over $300 a month. Good for you guys. I do have some questions for OCPA

[1:23:13] if I may and may I please have Mr. Moscow join the microphone. Thank you Joe. A couple of things

[1:23:20] here, the official vote by OCPA board was not until June 8 but we understood in our city council meeting

[1:23:28] on June 2nd, that we were going to be pushed from this October to April to start up.

[1:23:37] And I questioned that.

[1:23:38] I questioned the validity of that.

[1:23:39] I also questioned how we go from, first of all, I don't want to see P. I'm not going to

[1:23:46] make any bones about it, but I will be respectful.

[1:23:49] So with that being said, how we go from October to April, and your intention is to start

[1:23:55] by power for us starting a January, but you don't know what the rates are going to be.

[1:24:01] So this question is multi-levels here, and we do need a lot of answers, unfortunately,

[1:24:06] because the public is really wanting to know.

[1:24:09] Well, thank you, Councilwoman.

[1:24:11] So in terms of the change of launch date from October of 2026, that was something that was

[1:24:16] originally discussed with the city council while over a year ago when we were putting

[1:24:21] together our implementation plan.

[1:24:23] The goal for Orange County Power Authority is a very smooth transition from SC for energy

[1:24:30] generation services to OCPA. We want to make sure to smooth from a customer experience.

[1:24:36] We want to make sure that there's no hiccups.

[1:24:38] And so in conjunction in collaboration with all of our partners, the City of Fountain Valley,

[1:24:43] Southern California Edison, we've decided that it was best from a customer experience perspective

[1:24:49] to shift the launch date just a little bit to April of 2027 so that we can have that smooth transition.

[1:24:57] So that we can work with all of our partners to make sure that the transition from SC to OCPA service is without a hiccup, without a problem.

[1:25:06] And so it was really about ensuring the customer programs were flawless and making sure that everything was perfect.

[1:25:14] Okay, one Mr. Mosca. So why we want to commit to April and I still question the validity of that vote because I did question numerous times up here about the start date, and is this really the case?

[1:25:28] How can you, so you can't guarantee that what the power rates are going to be in January then?

[1:25:33] So, the Board of Directors will get information on what Southern California Edison will

[1:25:40] is forecasting for 2027 because the competitive margin is always important so as we're

[1:25:46] setting our rates and I showed you a slide on our five-year forecast, fairly steady in terms

[1:25:52] of the revenue requirement for OCPA. We'll continue to brief our board on the revenue requirement

[1:25:58] for OCPA on the rates that SCE is filing with the California Public Utilities Commission and

[1:26:04] will make a decision.

[1:26:05] The Board of Directors will make a decision by the end of 2026 about rates for 2027.

[1:26:10] So we could get pushed, it's the more theoretically speaking.

[1:26:15] The change in launch date has nothing to do with the rates.

[1:26:18] It has everything to do with thousands of customers being transitioned from SCE service

[1:26:24] to OCPA.

[1:26:25] And wanting to make sure that that is a done in a flawless way so that there are no

[1:26:30] hiccups and that we're communicating constantly with our customers.

[1:26:34] Having a little bit more time allows us to continue communicating with our customers.

[1:26:38] Jackie Henderson laid out some of the plans that we have.

[1:26:41] It allows us to continue to communicate with our customers.

[1:26:43] Work with our partners such as Southern California medicine to make sure that the transition

[1:26:48] is as smooth as possible.

[1:26:49] Is your company bleeding at least $5 million a month?

[1:26:52] I just showed you the financials.

[1:26:54] are you really not bleeding much monthly. So just like the City of Fountain Valley, our budgets are

[1:27:02] online and they're also third party audit on a yearly basis. All of our budgets dating back

[1:27:09] to the founding of OCPA, all of the third party audits are online and no, we're not bleeding

[1:27:17] whatever $5 million that you just said. So as far as duty power then, I'm seeing that

[1:27:24] The latest data reflects that the power from OCPA is nearly twice, twice worse than Edison.

[1:27:35] Is that not true?

[1:27:36] So, it's not true.

[1:27:38] So, I said in my slide deck that for the third consecutive year, a national agency has said Orange County Power Authority is the largest provider,

[1:27:48] largest provider of green sales in the United States of America.

[1:27:52] So it cannot be true that we're dirty,

[1:27:55] and that we're the largest provider of green energy in the country.

[1:27:57] Are we a game changer for Orange County?

[1:28:00] Yes, do we provide more renewable energy?

[1:28:02] Do we buy more renewable energy and have less carbon emissions

[1:28:05] than SC? Yes, it is our mission.

[1:28:08] SC does not even claim to buy as much renewable energy as we do.

[1:28:13] 99% of their customers are at their base product.

[1:28:16] their base product is less renewable energy than our base product.

[1:28:21] We have 100% product and a smart choice base product.

[1:28:24] So there is no way that when you look at the totality of our portfolio that they would

[1:28:30] have less carbon emissions.

[1:28:33] We have less carbon emissions when you look at the totality of our portfolio.

[1:28:38] We have less carbon emissions and we purchase more renewable energy by far.

[1:28:42] We're not only purchased more renewable energy than SE, but all of our competition, our last power content label,

[1:28:53] which is what the California Energy Commission puts out, so that we purchase 80% renewable energy,

[1:28:59] 80% of our portfolio is from renewable energy. The power content label for 2025 is coming out in September,

[1:29:07] for SE and for OCPA, and will continue to make progress in terms of reducing carbon emissions

[1:29:13] and increasing the amount of renewable energy that we're putting onto the grid.

[1:29:17] Okay, so as far as opting out, you know, that you when your business associate, we're pretty

[1:29:23] much stating that people could come and go as they want to change their plans as they wanted.

[1:29:28] I'm hearing that if you opt out, and something doesn't go well, you are basically locked in

[1:29:34] a six-month period. Is that not true? And there's certain periods that one can opt out. Is that you

[1:29:39] cannot opt out whenever you want to. So the

[1:29:49] pre-60 day window people can make choices to switch

[1:29:52] to their energy plan or stay with SE for any amount of time. No changes to their electricity

[1:29:59] be serviced.

[1:30:00] That all 60 days after the transition, you can make any transition immediately and opt-out or change your plan immediately.

[1:30:08] After the fact, after we do come into Fountain Valley, there is a transition period if somebody does want to opt-out.

[1:30:15] There is a six month transition period. Essentially, the Southern California Edison would need to procure the amount of energy that they thought we were procuring for that customer on their behalf.

[1:30:26] And so there is a six month period where they would either be with SE and a transitional rate or they would stay with OCPA for six months.

[1:30:34] Yeah, because for me, soundbites to our residents and our businesses just don't cut it and I really mean that with all due respect.

[1:30:43] So just letting people think they can opt out and make changes whenever when in reality that's not the case.

[1:30:48] It's a tough situation, I don't know, I'm just going to just black and white this.

[1:30:54] So when asked about fountain value potentially getting out of this contract that we have

[1:31:00] even though we're not getting any energy from OCPA, what are we in for financially if

[1:31:08] we wanted to cancel the contract?

[1:31:11] So we hope that we have a long future with fountain value that we're helping you with all

[1:31:17] your goals, but if you wanted to withdraw from OCPA, then yes, then the contract would be

[1:31:24] the guide. I would say that we certainly would work collaboratively with your team.

[1:31:31] As we have always worked collaboratively with your team, to ensure that whatever cost there is,

[1:31:37] it's mitigated to the greatest extent possible. So there's no, it would be better to exit soon

[1:31:45] rather than later I take it.

[1:31:47] So any cost of which are all would be based on the energy

[1:31:52] that there are several different ways that you look at this.

[1:31:56] But the two buckets would be the cost of energy

[1:31:58] that we procured on behalf of the city of Fountain Valley

[1:32:01] and any resource adequacy that we basically

[1:32:03] purchase on behalf of Fountain Valley.

[1:32:06] We would basically reuse resell that if we had to.

[1:32:10] And we would mitigate as much of the cost as possible.

[1:32:13] So we hope that you're with us for a long period of time and if, but if there's a future date down the line that there is a discussion and you feel that we haven't performed.

[1:32:25] We haven't competed in the way that we said we are.

[1:32:28] And there's a moment that you are thinking about withdrawal.

[1:32:31] Then we would work collaboratively with you to ensure that there's, from a customer experience,

[1:32:37] It's as smooth as possible to transition back to S.E. and there is little cost if not any cost to go back to S.E.E.

[1:32:44] What did it cause time to repeat to drop out?

[1:32:48] It didn't cost anything to be anything.

[1:32:52] And they had service with O.C.P.A.

[1:32:57] I'm finished.

[1:32:58] I think we need to cycle out.

[1:33:00] I would really, I mean, how irresponsible are we as a city?

[1:33:03] I really implore my council members to really think about this quickly, though.

[1:33:09] Thank you.

[1:33:09] Any other council comments?

[1:33:13] Councilmember Boy.

[1:33:14] Yeah, I see.

[1:33:14] There's another person here in the room that is also appointed by Councilmember Grindus as an advisory for the community from the business side, which is Elizabeth.

[1:33:25] It's really.

[1:33:25] I'd like to hear if you have anything to say.

[1:33:28] Especially be serving on that board.

[1:33:36] Welcome.

[1:33:37] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:33:38] Councilmember.

[1:33:38] Thank you.

[1:33:39] Check Councilmember Boy for the opportunity to speak.

[1:33:41] I want to be clear that comments that I express are as a private citizen of the City of

[1:33:47] Van Valley, long-term privacy citizen, they are not to represent any other opinions that

[1:33:52] I may hold.

[1:33:53] So, I do have the privilege of serving as a community advisory council member with the history

[1:33:59] of supporting community programs, building, awareness, my perspective in my role with OCPA in

[1:34:07] this volunteer advisory role is to ensure

[1:34:10] that the residents of Mount Valley understand what this means.

[1:34:14] We have heard of a variety of comments here tonight,

[1:34:17] some factual, some perhaps not.

[1:34:20] And so as I look ahead at the future of Mount Valley

[1:34:23] and our partnership with OCPA, what mechanisms

[1:34:26] do we have in place to ensure that appropriate communication

[1:34:30] is slowing to the residents so that anyone can make the choice

[1:34:33] that is best for them?

[1:34:35] I do believe in choice, I think that OCPA

[1:34:37] from my experience over the last, almost 18 months,

[1:34:43] has been that of how do we support the community?

[1:34:46] I've sat on a variety of grant application reviews

[1:34:51] for other cities, because found Valley has not qualified

[1:34:54] for those yet.

[1:34:55] But I envision a time where fountain valley residents

[1:34:58] will benefit from some of these additional community

[1:35:01] benefits that OCP provides.

[1:35:02] And so, in short, there is benefit and choice.

[1:35:07] Overall, I think we all like a variety of choices.

[1:35:11] And OCPA does provide that.

[1:35:13] And again, in my role in supporting with the Community Advisory Council,

[1:35:17] I've had an opportunity to see what some of the other communities

[1:35:23] have been able to benefit from in the way of grants,

[1:35:26] support, and community engagement.

[1:35:28] So thank you for the opportunity to speak.

[1:35:32] Thank you. Thank you for serving. Okay, I think that will. Vice Marraver. Thank you.

[1:35:41] I'd be question about the budget. And I noticed in the back of the budget, page 26 you have a forecast of a five year

[1:35:52] pro-forma, 2627 to 231, 232, and if I look at the breakdown of the revenue, it has basic

[1:36:02] plan and then smart choice and 100% renewable. And it appears that about 96% of the revenues

[1:36:11] coming from basic choice and 4% is coming from smart choice and 100% renewable. Is that right?

[1:36:19] That's correct. Okay, so I guess one question for me is, you know, a lot of the, I guess the theory behind

[1:36:30] Moving to a community choice aggregator is that the, you know, a number of people would be opting to pay a little more for these

[1:36:41] Cleaner options and if, you know, it seems like only 4% of your customers are actually choosing the Cleaner options

[1:36:50] And to me, it's not really a very compelling story that's being told by the numbers.

[1:37:01] And getting back to the, I guess, the rate question.

[1:37:07] I do think that if we move forward with the power authority,

[1:37:14] One of the reasons I voted to move forward is because of the 3% discount over so Caledicin,

[1:37:26] which was going to benefit the 96% of people that maybe aren't going to be in the smart

[1:37:32] choice or clean renewable.

[1:37:33] So I think that's really important if we decide to move forward.

[1:37:39] So I'd but I appreciate the presentation tonight and I have no doubt about your

[1:37:45] visibility to deliver on the, you know, the operational site, but thank you, Council Member.

[1:37:53] So I would say that that smart choice is, you know, it's a bargain.

[1:37:57] I mean, you'll see when the power content label comes out soon for both SC and OCPA.

[1:38:03] You'll see that that, that smart choice delivered 95 percent between renewable energy and

[1:38:09] carbon-free energy, 95% renewable and carbon-free energy, so it's a bargain, and it's price

[1:38:17] well, and it's a reason why about 50% are at the basic choice. All the others are between

[1:38:24] the smart choice and the 100% choice, but that you're right in terms of numbers. And we are aiming

[1:38:30] to prevent our board of directors, even though this was a transitional year for us, we are aiming

[1:38:35] to go back to what we've learned from the past, which is to have a basic product, which is less

[1:38:41] than SE, and then also to deal with the other products where we do give our commercial

[1:38:46] customers some sort of predictability that they've been wanting.

[1:38:50] Yeah, I think they're going to have kind of a hybrid option if that is the case.

[1:38:54] You know, one of the things that was talked about in the comments was competition and how

[1:38:59] competition is supposed to bring down price. It doesn't seem like it's bringing down the price,

[1:39:04] at least not at this time. So for those who think that competition is going to bring you a lower

[1:39:10] price as I would, I guess I would push back a little bit on that with what we've seen so far.

[1:39:17] And, you know, one thing I will note though is that the Southern California Edison,

[1:39:22] they do have a green rate, which is, you know, an option for renewable energy, but it's fully

[1:39:27] subscribe so even if you wanted to get on their green program you couldn't so I do see a kind

[1:39:34] of a legitimate argument that those that do want to have renewable energy that you know

[1:39:41] with OCP there could be a choice so those are my comments you know I think I think we need

[1:39:52] to figure out when the, you know, if we're going to make a decision on this that's not in

[1:39:58] our current direction, what would be the dates that we'd have to hit in order to do that?

[1:40:06] If I could, I would just say that, that in terms of competition, that it's not only about

[1:40:13] the rates, it's about the overarching kind of idea of affordability and rates are just

[1:40:18] part of your affordability when you're basically investing money and customer programs that are all

[1:40:23] aimed at reducing your energy consumption and reducing your cost that is also about affordability.

[1:40:30] Some can say that maybe the programs don't go for enough. I think the programs that we've launched

[1:40:35] and the programs that are part of other agencies that we're helping bring to Orange County

[1:40:40] are really moving the dial, but let's say some folks differ in terms of whether the effectiveness.

[1:40:46] If OCPA didn't exist, those programs wouldn't exist.

[1:40:50] The only thing you would have is Southern California medicine.

[1:40:53] Our programs are all filling the gap and

[1:40:56] complementing what you already get with medicine.

[1:40:59] So it's an added value.

[1:41:01] So competition is increasing the customer excellence.

[1:41:03] You heard tonight a lot of folks talking about customer service,

[1:41:07] customer excellence.

[1:41:09] So competition increases not only the affordability,

[1:41:11] but customer excellence increases the options.

[1:41:15] The ability to tailor some of the programs to your needs, I think, are all part of that competition as well.

[1:41:25] Councillor Grettis?

[1:41:26] Yeah, so a couple things, one thing with competition, too, you say that it's really not having an effect.

[1:41:32] I would argue that if there was in competition, how much higher would the rates be today than they are, even, which is really high?

[1:41:41] So, I don't think there's a simple answer to that one.

[1:41:44] also I want to make sure people understand this is nothing this is something new to Orange County

[1:41:49] it's not new to California again there are 200 cities throughout the state that participate

[1:41:55] in a CCA which OCPA is one of how many other 25 25 throughout the state there are 15 million

[1:42:04] people participating so don't feel like we're gambling with your life here like this is something brand new

[1:42:11] This is new to Orange County.

[1:42:15] You mentioned, what's the reserve balance?

[1:42:18] Currently $45 million.

[1:42:20] So we have a reserve balance of $45 million.

[1:42:23] Miss Johnson mentioned that we used reserves of $45 million.

[1:42:28] And we're going to, I don't know if that rate per is going to have to pay it.

[1:42:30] I look at it at the opposite.

[1:42:31] We're walking in and have reserves of $45 million without putting a penny in yet.

[1:42:36] So I think we're going to be a big advantage.

[1:42:38] I'll turn that around on you there.

[1:42:42] Hunting to Beach dropped out, why did Hunting to Beach dropped out?

[1:42:45] I don't think we gave a really straight answer on that.

[1:42:48] There's two reasons in my opinion, this opinion.

[1:42:51] One is we had a new council that came in that basically reversed, just about everything

[1:42:57] the old council did.

[1:42:59] So I believe it was a lot of politicalness there.

[1:43:02] The second thing is the old council, I think, made a mistake.

[1:43:06] And when they started with OCPA as did Irvine, they started everybody at the 100% rate.

[1:43:16] So, you're right.

[1:43:16] They were way more expensive than Edison, because I shouldn't say way more, but they were paying

[1:43:24] everybody at the 100% rate.

[1:43:27] We're not doing that in Fountain Valley.

[1:43:28] We're bringing everybody in at the basic rate.

[1:43:32] So, I would have voted if we had to bring everybody in at the 100% rate.

[1:43:36] I would have owed it no, because that's not right.

[1:43:38] That's not, that's not the choice.

[1:43:41] Less than two blood asked a question about the liability

[1:43:45] to fountain valley.

[1:43:47] So I don't know if Scott Smith is here.

[1:43:51] Oh, there you are.

[1:43:51] I don't know if Scott or Colin or who wants to answer this.

[1:43:55] But if we join this, well, we have joined this JPA.

[1:44:00] We are a member.

[1:44:02] As a member, if OCPA makes the catastrophic

[1:44:08] this something and they get sued and they go out of business,

[1:44:12] what is the liability to fountain valley as a JPA member?

[1:44:17] The JPA has a limitation that the individual city members are not liable for the deaths

[1:44:22] of the JPA.

[1:44:23] There's a lawsuit.

[1:44:24] So I hope that answers your question, Mr. Trooplug.

[1:44:28] So the liability, the citizens, oh, they couldn't hear you, Colin, I'm getting told.

[1:44:35] So if the GPA has a judgment against it and for whatever reason needs additional funds,

[1:44:42] goes into the red, the individual city members are not liable for that.

[1:44:46] So the GPA expense.

[1:44:48] Earlier, somebody said the taxpayers' response, the taxpayers are not responsible.

[1:44:52] I just want to make sure that's clear.

[1:44:55] Talk about hunting beach cameras and let's see, let me just one other thing.

[1:45:00] Oh, somebody, somebody I think Mr. Ruff mentioned that, you know, it seems like we're always going along with whatever staff says, I literally meet with staff twice a week. Every single week, at least on average, twice a week. And let me tell you, I don't agree with everything that goes forward. But they get the feedback from us before the meeting, they make adjustments to what they're bringing forward. And in a lot of cases, you know,

[1:45:30] what they originally proposed, the board members advise

[1:45:32] and to do something differently.

[1:45:34] So I just want to explain that just a little bit.

[1:45:36] That being said, the bottom line is this.

[1:45:43] I and somebody who wants to pay literally

[1:45:46] a cup of coffee at Starbucks a month, one cup of coffee

[1:45:50] for 100% green energy over regular basic choice.

[1:45:56] You may not want to, but that's my choice.

[1:45:59] And I should be allowed to do that.

[1:46:01] I grew up in Fountain Valley, I went to Fountain Valley high school and I remember the days

[1:46:06] of we can't go out and do PE this day because of Smog.

[1:46:11] You know, you remember the Smog days there, all the time,

[1:46:14] especially this time of year in Fountain Valley and all over something, California,

[1:46:19] and the environmental agencies may change.

[1:46:22] Well, greenhouse gases, you may not believe this doesn't matter.

[1:46:27] To me, I do, and I think it's an issue.

[1:46:29] And if we can do everything that we can, hopefully I have grandchildren one day crossing my fingers, I really hope so.

[1:46:37] But I would hope my grandchildren, the greenhouse effects that are being felt right now don't happen.

[1:46:44] So all I'm saying, Council Member Constantine, is you don't have the right to tell me that I don't have the choice to go to 100%.

[1:46:53] You went opt out to Edison.

[1:46:56] God bless you.

[1:46:57] That's your right.

[1:46:58] Less than we talked about it on email.

[1:47:01] You want to stay with Edison?

[1:47:03] You have that choice.

[1:47:05] Everybody has the right to choice.

[1:47:08] So there was some people that we didn't get to vote on it.

[1:47:10] Well, yeah, you do.

[1:47:11] You're getting to vote on it by opting in or opting out.

[1:47:15] That's your vote.

[1:47:16] And we heard it should take a minute to make that decision.

[1:47:20] So with that, I'm glad that we're in OCPA, I'm glad we have choice and I'm glad that we're moving forward.

[1:47:29] Mr. Mayor, one quick statistic.

[1:47:31] Councilwoman Constantine.

[1:47:32] Thank you.

[1:47:33] I googled Lake Forest was a founding member and the City Council members voted there in February 2021

[1:47:42] more than five years ago to exit.

[1:47:46] So that tells you something, this company is not-

[1:47:49] this was not started up last night this they've been in business for more than five years

[1:47:53] here and you are going to bring no not really because of the convenience we're being led to

[1:47:59] believe well there's only a couple of cities part of this point of park full of tin and Irvine

[1:48:04] and like give it a chance and all this no and that's it thank you. I'm sorry you haven't given a

[1:48:11] reason to go. I've given plenty of reasons I had a bad feeling in October 2024 when I voted

[1:48:18] I couldn't specifically say I'd a very I feel nauseous now. I'd a very bad feeling in November of 2024

[1:48:25] There's so much wrong with this. Don't even go there. Thank you. Council member

[1:48:31] I'm constantly you told me specifically and directly that you were upset that this was not going to go forward in October

[1:48:37] Because you wanted to make this your campaign is no no no no no that's not true

[1:48:42] You're supposed to go there. That's a lie. That is not true. I never said that to you. How dare you lie?

[1:48:47] That is not true. I've never made a campaign progress promise. So don't even go there. The reality is

[1:48:55] We should even be having this discussion. There's so many holes in this

[1:48:59] Situation. This is not appropriate and don't ever say that I said something. I never ever would consider saying. Thank you. Yeah, dude. I did not

[1:49:12] Okay, so our

[1:49:13] 45-minute study session has almost gone two hours, but

[1:49:18] We appreciate the the time from OCPA for coming out tonight

[1:49:22] We appreciate all of the speakers and I think council and buoy you have one more comment

[1:49:27] I'm sure if you okay, you were going to say anything else beside that. Oh, just go wrap it up

[1:49:32] Yeah, I think I think we've got a lot of meeting to go. We've got 19 items tonight

[1:49:35] We've got very patient people waiting in the in the FOIA to lobby

[1:49:40] And well, let's

[1:49:41] Mr. Mayor. Yes, let's try to wrap up our thoughts on this. We need to have clarification where we're going to go going forward

[1:49:46] I mean, that's the whole purpose of this, if I not correct.

[1:49:49] This was a discussion item, and we're continuing forward because I continue to support the

[1:49:54] efforts, and I think we've heard from all of the council, that this is why we're here discussing

[1:50:01] this.

[1:50:01] Okay.

[1:50:02] We continue to support it.

[1:50:03] Are there any other questions or comments about the council?

[1:50:06] Yeah.

[1:50:07] I just have a quick a few questions for Mr. Westpool, the CEO of OCPA.

[1:50:13] Just you mentioned earlier that it costs 13 cents or 14 cents a kilowatt on the generation rate for the basic choice.

[1:50:27] But I think in the future is when you speak about cents, I think you should speak globally, which is actually the total cost is 40, almost 44 cents per kilowatt, not 13 cents.

[1:50:39] And I was doing the math,

[1:50:43] I think if we go by sense, we can't see it looks such a small numbers, but when you do the math, it's about a 12% more than OCP, than SE currently right now.

[1:50:58] That is based on an average of 523 kilowatt per hour. That's an average.

[1:51:04] But for those who consume more, let's say 800 kilowatt with that difference in

[1:51:12] sense, you mentioned. It's almost a 53% increase higher. If you compare with

[1:51:20] SE, so, you know, if you go by percentage, I think the public can see a better

[1:51:26] visualizations of cost difference, rather than sense. I think it's kind of misleading on that aspect.

[1:51:33] I want to know, you mentioned, or my colleague mentioned, there's a $45 million reserve.

[1:51:41] And he's talking about suit liability.

[1:51:44] My question is, if one of the city currently on there goes bankrupt, what's going to happen to the existing city?

[1:51:57] I'm sorry the question is if one of our member agencies goes bankrupt right like one of the city because we've been hearing

[1:52:04] Fullerton is you know on the financial

[1:52:08] Concern on you know on the operations so if they go bankrupt what's gonna happen to other city?

[1:52:14] Are they gonna pick up the bills or the seat of bankrupt? What's gonna happen?

[1:52:18] So as your attorney said in terms of of your city's liability

[1:52:22] there is no liability

[1:52:25] for Fountain Valley.

[1:52:32] I'm not sure that was the question that the council member was asking.

[1:52:35] I'm not sure that I understand the question.

[1:52:36] If the city of Floor 10 goes bankrupt.

[1:52:39] It sounds like there's one less person putting into the pot if there's exactly what it needs to go into the pot.

[1:52:43] All right, but in terms of any liabilities,

[1:52:46] your city would not be liable for anything if that's related to or associated with a bankrupt

[1:52:53] bankruptcy for another city.

[1:52:54] In terms of hypothetically, if another city went bankrupt,

[1:52:59] how would that change the cost calculation?

[1:53:03] All I could say is it would change the cost calculation,

[1:53:05] but we'd have to take a look at that.

[1:53:07] We would also, our revenue requirement would go down.

[1:53:12] So if I'm not purchasing energy for that number agency,

[1:53:16] I'm certainly not.

[1:53:17] Yeah, hold on a sec.

[1:53:19] So with full of tin, I mean, this is quite the stretch.

[1:53:23] Filerton goes bankrupt, their residents still need electricity, and they're still buying electricity.

[1:53:30] It has nothing to do with the city going bankrupt.

[1:53:33] Now, the city themselves may not be able to pay their portion of that city's power bill.

[1:53:40] So, if does that what you're asking?

[1:53:42] Because the residents still have to pay their bill if Filerton goes bankrupt, which is not going to happen.

[1:53:49] Well, if the city's going to go bankrupt, that's what I'm trying to say, how is that going

[1:53:54] to affect those who aren't bored with OCP? And how is that going to affect you?

[1:53:58] It won't change anything.

[1:53:59] Just if that is, if I, I, I, I, I, I found Valley went bankrupt.

[1:54:03] Do you think that I have to stop paying my electric bill?

[1:54:06] Yeah.

[1:54:07] I can't only want that respond from OCP.

[1:54:09] I would be happy to look into it for you.

[1:54:11] It's a hypothetical that we've not thought about, but it'd be happy to look at it.

[1:54:14] It doesn't appear that it would impact anything that we're talking about today.

[1:54:18] but I'd be happy to look into that. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Joe. To the German earlier,

[1:54:23] as a questions, in terms of updating and opt-out, what there's rules is, it's a governance

[1:54:31] statute, public duty, section three, six, six point two. So once the city decides to join OCPA,

[1:54:38] we're on MacLeod. All of the residents are on MacLeod in it. We just can't opt-out. It is up to

[1:54:45] about opt-out, means because of that rule. Okay, I just want to have a clarification on that.

[1:54:52] Someone, you know, we talked about competitions and predictability.

[1:54:57] And I agree that change and choice is good. But if the price is higher than SE, then in my opinion,

[1:55:07] predictability is less important. And two, I mean, a lot of people have heard today, it's very complicated.

[1:55:13] But at the end of the day, if my bill is higher than SE, then I have an issue with that.

[1:55:20] And that's why last time I vote based on your previous model, which is I think you call the index model.

[1:55:27] That I'm okay because I was looked at or a reasonable payload in SE, but your current model, I'm not sure I'm okay with that model.

[1:55:37] I understand that you talk about the particularity, I understand that in the average moment.

[1:55:42] Yeah, I did end the day.

[1:55:45] If wherever AC goes up or lower, and we stoop, lower, is still lower.

[1:55:50] That's the way to look.

[1:55:50] Exactly.

[1:55:51] I agree with you on this.

[1:55:54] And as the representative for the city of Fountain Valley, when we come to setting our rates

[1:56:00] for next year, I will be pushing very hard for the index rate again.

[1:56:04] Okay, that's all I have to say for now.

[1:56:08] May if I can wrap it up, the commissations.

[1:56:11] So the CityFound Valley is currently part of the OCPA.

[1:56:15] We are a member of OCPA.

[1:56:18] And so the understanding right now is that it will go live

[1:56:24] in April of 2027.

[1:56:28] There will be 60 days in advance for any those

[1:56:32] that would like to opt out when we are part of OCPA transition.

[1:56:39] and then they would notify 60 day before, 30 days before, and then there's also a 60 day

[1:56:49] potentially window after April 1st, and so if found value resident do want to say with

[1:56:57] SE, you do have that choice to say, or you can go with OCPA once it's live on April 1st

[1:57:06] of 2027. There will be a lot of community outreach, both from OCPA and also from staff from

[1:57:14] the City of Mountain Valley to ensure that the resident is aware of the transition and so we will

[1:57:22] update you as we progress along. So it goes live on April Fool's Day, right?

[1:57:30] Councilman Boy, I'm happy to hear that you said that you will fight on the next cycle.

[1:57:37] Can you explain on this particular cycle, why you did not fight for that index?

[1:57:45] For a couple of reasons, based on the financial state of OCPA for the year, A, B was, I was very much supportive of making sure that the

[1:57:58] 2025 rate did not increase that it stayed steady for the year, so I was in favor of that as well.

[1:58:05] And three, the other four board members were definitely in favor of this and their customers,

[1:58:12] are their residents, were customers, and hours this year are not.

[1:58:16] So, to me, to try to override the other council members, I didn't think it would be fair.

[1:58:22] But for next year, I am very confident we're going to have an index rate again.

[1:58:30] Okay any other comments? Okay, thanks. We're done. Thank you so much. Oh, yeah,

[1:58:41] all right, we're now going. Yes

[1:58:44] You got to restart soon. Okay, we're gonna take up two minute recess

[2:08:37] 723,

[2:08:41] start with the invocation. If you could please rise, welcome John Borek.

[2:08:54] City Council. Truly my pleasure to be able to offer a brief word of prayers we begin the meeting.

[2:09:01] Heavenly Father, as we gather together this evening, we ask your spirit of unity to be present among us in the city council chambers.

[2:09:10] Help us to put aside any personal agendas or differences and work together in harmony toward our common goal.

[2:09:16] doing what is best for the City of Fountain Valley.

[2:09:20] In Psalm 133 it states,

[2:09:22] behold how good and pleasant it is when brothers and sisters dwell in unity.

[2:09:27] Let this be our desire as we engage in discussions

[2:09:29] and make important decisions that impact our community.

[2:09:33] Lord, we give thanks to you tonight for your humble servants, our mayor, our city manager,

[2:09:38] our city staff, and our city council members.

[2:09:42] Help give them guidance and wisdom as they discuss the issues on tonight's agenda.

[2:09:45] May our words this evening be filled with love and respect for one another and may our actions reflect the unity we strive for in your holy name we pray. Amen.

[2:09:56] Thank you, John. Next we'll be our salute to the flag.

[2:10:01] Councilwoman Kim Ponsente. Please join me in the salute to the flag.

[2:10:05] Ready begin.

[2:10:18] Thank

[2:10:22] you very much.

[2:10:27] Next is City Council's successor agency housing authority roll call.

[2:10:31] Council member Booy.

[2:10:32] Yeah.

[2:10:32] Council member Constantine.

[2:10:33] Yeah.

[2:10:34] Council member Grandis here.

[2:10:35] Vice Mayor Vice Chair Harper.

[2:10:37] Here.

[2:10:37] Mayor Chair Coneen.

[2:10:38] All members are present.

[2:10:40] Thank you.

[2:10:40] Are there any supplemental communications?

[2:10:44] We do have some.

[2:10:45] They have been provided to the City Council and to members of the public.

[2:10:48] And are there any items to report out of closed session?

[2:10:52] There are Mr. Mayor on item number two.

[2:10:54] There's a vote 5-0 to allow the City Attorney to commence the

[2:10:58] Bateman process on items 1 through 4.

[2:11:00] There's no report of election.

[2:11:03] Okay.

[2:11:03] Thank you.

[2:11:03] Next we'll move into City Manager update.

[2:11:07] Yes, thank you Mayor and City Council wanted to inform the public that City Hall will be closed on Thursday from 3 to 6 p.m. for employees day at some of us, the mayor will go into a little bit details about the hour and hour of some of us.

[2:11:23] I also want to introduce Keiko Keoki, a guest from Heckenman City, from Japan, Tamwin,

[2:11:33] a family resident, and a board member of the housing and community development advisory board,

[2:11:40] and Frank Ikuchi, president of the Hunting Beach sister city program.

[2:11:47] Kiko is home staying with Tam Wind Family and my family through June 25th to experience fountain

[2:11:56] valley and fountain valley some of us. We have a sister city advisory committee and have been

[2:12:02] in communication with Pekken and City Mayor Kouiki for the past few months. The goal is to establish

[2:12:10] a sister city relationship between the two communities ideally in 2027.

[2:12:17] We are in the phase of a relationship building to learn about each other's communities.

[2:12:23] Heckerman City has a population of 72,864 with 29,139 households.

[2:12:31] The city is approximately 14 square miles.

[2:12:35] Other communities advisory is evaluating our Sakura city and Fukushima, our first mayor,

[2:12:45] Kano's hometown.

[2:12:47] Kiko, do you want to go ahead and say hi and tell your age and what you like so far on your trip?

[2:12:58] My name is Kiko. I'm 10 in.

[2:13:04] I'm 10 in one. Yes or not.

[2:13:09] I think

[2:13:10] Hunting Barrett is around the for place. We are at the nature and I'm

[2:13:15] enjoying my time here. Thank you.

[2:13:23] Then I believe Kiko have some

[2:13:25] presents gifts for the City Council.

[2:13:29] So if you want to share with us and then Mr. Tamwin and Mr. Frank,

[2:13:34] if you would like to add a comment, you'll welcome to do that too.

[2:15:12] Okay, I'll just give a free speaker first. Hi, my name is Tamwin. I'm honored to serve as host family for

[2:15:17] Kiko. It's been amazing for my family to have our guest from Japan. We look forward to visiting her. Her family as well. I know her, her mom's a mayor and she's been such a great ambassador for Japan and enjoying everything from in and out and fall here in Fountain Valley.

[2:15:39] My name is Frank Iguchi, I'm a president of Huntington Beach Sister City Association.

[2:15:46] We have programs like student exchange and adult delegation exchange with our sister

[2:15:54] city, in Japan, which is Anjo, it happens to be right next to Hikunan City, you know,

[2:16:03] goes from. So I'm very happy that Fante Valley is

[2:16:10] considering a sister city in Japan because I see a lot of potential

[2:16:15] collaborations with Huntington Beach and Fante Valley.

[2:16:21] As well as hiking on the city right next to our sister city,

[2:16:26] Angel, south of Nagoya. So I'm very happy

[2:16:30] throughout the valley is considering the system in the future.

[2:16:33] Hopefully you would choose Hitchinana.

[2:16:36] After.

[2:16:37] Thank you very much.

[2:16:38] Thank you.

[2:16:48] Okay, for the mayor's updates,

[2:16:49] something California Edison SE will be replacing their vault that is located near the intersection of Euclid Street and Warner Avenue.

[2:16:58] SE will notify residents in the adjacent residential quadrants for upcoming power outages,

[2:17:03] needed to facilitate completion of the work.

[2:17:06] Construction began on June 1st, 2026, and is tentatively scheduled to be completed by the end of July, 2026.

[2:17:12] Due to traffic control, expect delays when traveling around, traveling eastbound on Warner Avenue, between Ward Street and Euclid Street.

[2:17:21] Detour signs and message boards will be posted for the duration of the work.

[2:17:25] We thank everyone for your patience during the construction period.

[2:17:29] Like a PIA and Ellis playgrounds will be closed for maintenance, the playgrounds at those two parks will be closed for maintenance beginning Monday, June 15, 20, 26 at 7am.

[2:17:40] Temporary Fencing will be installed to prevent access to the rover-play surface during the maintenance activities.

[2:17:48] The playground is scheduled to reopen on Friday June 19th at 5 p.m.

[2:17:53] And please feel free to call civil 1, 4, 5, 9, 3, 4, 6, 1, 2, if you have any questions regarding the closures or maintenance being performed.

[2:18:01] Senior Expo, join us Wednesday, June 17th, that's tomorrow at the Center at Founder's

[2:18:08] Village, it's on Bouchard Street from 9.30 a.m. to 12 p.m. to check out the resources offered

[2:18:14] for today's seniors. Discover a variety of vendor booths, health screenings, and vital

[2:18:19] information. There will be door prizes, opportunity drawings, giveaways, music, and free

[2:18:24] food. Do I say free food?

[2:18:27] Alright, don't miss out on the information that can help you be healthy, enjoy life, and plan for the future.

[2:18:34] Thank you to our big Kahuna sponsors, Memorial Care, Caloptima Health and Surrents' Clinical Research.

[2:18:44] Summer Fest, June 18th, the 21st.

[2:18:49] Join us Thursday, June 18th through Sunday, June 21st for the highly anticipated event of summer, FV Summerfest.

[2:18:57] Come out and enjoy live music, all weekend long, carnival rides and games, a beer and wine garden, food and retail vendors and much more admission is $5.

[2:19:08] Special perks at the park all weekend long will include on Thursday a $3 ride night and

[2:19:17] $22 on site unlimited ride wristbands on Friday the 19th it's $5 beer and why night along with the country kickback

[2:19:26] On Saturday the 20th

[2:19:28] Comes with the Hyundai firework show and then on Sunday. Let's celebrate dad on father's day

[2:19:35] From information or to purchase your tickets, visit summerfestfv.com, and that concludes my

[2:19:42] measures update.

[2:19:45] Okay.

[2:19:46] Next, we've actually moved the council member items for future consideration up to the front

[2:19:54] part of the meeting, and so now I'm going to open it up for items for future consideration.

[2:19:59] Are there any members who have any items?

[2:20:01] I have one.

[2:20:02] Councilwoman Constantine.

[2:20:04] Well, after what we just heard in the study session, I proposed that the City of Fountain Valley

[2:20:12] seeks to get us out of that contract, cancel the contract with OCPA, which is the Orange County

[2:20:18] Power Authority.

[2:20:21] That's my thought.

[2:20:27] I have a comment.

[2:20:28] Nice to meet you.

[2:20:29] Nice to meet you.

[2:20:29] I'm not going to second the motion, but I do think that we should

[2:20:38] maybe bring it up, but I think

[2:20:42] we should determine a timeline a calendar, like if we were going to withdraw will be the appropriate date,

[2:20:52] but at this time I will not second that motion. I do think if we can get the indexed rate, then I think I'm good with it next.

[2:21:05] That's unbelievable.

[2:21:07] So, Council, Vice Mayor Harper, are you proposing that as an item of future situation?

[2:21:14] No, no, I'm just, I'm just saying, I think we should know what the calendar is for, you know, with drawing if that's something we in the future decide.

[2:21:25] Is it December 31st? Is it October 1st?

[2:21:29] So we have that data.

[2:21:30] As a represent, I'll commit to get that for you and present it as part of AB-1234 in the future.

[2:21:37] Any other items for consideration?

[2:21:40] All right, let's move into presentations.

[2:21:43] First, we're going to have recognition of the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club,

[2:21:47] for the recognition as Club of the Year, are the Leo Club members in the house?

[2:21:53] All right, all right.

[2:21:55] So let me read a little bit of background.

[2:21:57] Welcome.

[2:21:58] So, Family Leo's don't just participate, they lead.

[2:22:02] Being named District 4L4 Club of the Year for 2025-2026 is not simply an award, it is a

[2:22:09] powerful reflection of their passion, service, and extraordinary commitment to the communities

[2:22:13] they serve.

[2:22:15] This honor carries special significance as District 4L4 represents a wide and diverse region,

[2:22:22] spanning Orange County, parts of Los Angeles County and parts of San Bernardino County,

[2:22:26] To be recognized among so many outstanding clubs is a true testament to the dedication and impact of every member of the Fountain Valley Leo Club.

[2:22:36] This past year, the Fountain Valley Leo's demonstrated what it means to serve with purpose.

[2:22:40] They partnered with the City of Fountain Valley to bring joy to local families by preparing thousands of plastic eggs for the Mile Square Park Easter Egg Hunt.

[2:22:49] They celebrated unity and culture by actively participating in the Fountain Valley High School Culture Fest.

[2:22:55] Their impact extended far beyond single events.

[2:22:58] In partnership with the Orange County, Korean-American Lions Club, they helped create over

[2:23:03] 15,000 meals, directly supporting individuals and families facing food insecurity.

[2:23:09] They also showed their commitment to environmental responsibility by taking part in multiple

[2:23:13] beach cleanups, helping preserve the beauty of our coastline.

[2:23:17] Through their strong collaboration with the Huntington Beach Hostline Club, they consistently

[2:23:21] demonstrated leadership and reliability where they're cooking and serving at the city

[2:23:25] camp out, supporting the Santa, Santa breakfast, or helping run the annual crab fest

[2:23:31] fundraiser, which really sets the fat valley Leo's a part, however, is their dedication beyond

[2:23:36] the local level. At the district level, they helped bring joy to families through the Ronald MacDonald

[2:23:42] House trunk or treat and provided comfort through baking days for families in need. They supported

[2:23:48] meaningful causes, including pediatric cancer fundraising through events like the Leo Roller

[2:23:54] Skating for a cause. At the state level, they continue to grow as leaders, attending the

[2:23:59] California Lions Convention, participating in the walk for a cause, leadership seminars and

[2:24:05] completing first aid training to better serve their communities in the future. The Fountain Valley

[2:24:09] Leo Club represents the very best of what you service can be, a club that doesn't just attend events,

[2:24:15] But leads them a club that doesn't just volunteer, but creates meaningful impact a club that doesn't just grow

[2:24:22] But inspires others to grow alongside them

[2:24:24] So this recognition is not only about what they have accomplished it is about how they have accomplished it with heart

[2:24:32] With teamwork and with an unwavering commitment to serving others

[2:24:36] Please join us in honoring the Fountain Valley Leo Club truly deserving of the title club of the year and so I would like to

[2:24:44] Yes.

[2:24:47] So if I could bring up Poen the win to come up and accept, okay.

[2:25:10] So on behalf of the city of

[2:25:13] Fountain Valley, we want to recognize the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club for 2025-2026 district

[2:25:21] 4L4 club of the year. Congratulations.

[2:25:34] And on behalf of our supervisor for district 1, Janet Win,

[2:25:39] She also wishes to present the Certificate of Recognition to the Fountain Valley High School Leo Club

[2:25:45] Congratulations.

[2:25:49] But wait, there's more.

[2:25:54] You've also been recognized by the California Assembly, our local Assemblyman Treetah from the 70th District.

[2:26:03] This is a very nice certificate of recognition, much bigger.

[2:26:07] Okay, that's not to be out done.

[2:26:10] Bat Valley High School Leo Club being named as the club of the year and dedication to serving

[2:26:14] the community, congratulations.

[2:26:36] Council, do you want to take a stretch?

[2:26:37] Come on down.

[2:26:38] All right.

[2:27:21] Okay, next we're going to have a recap of the annual I.C.

[2:27:25] the SEC conference, presentation by Assistant Planner Ron Vargas and Management Analyst Victor

[2:27:31] Vittor Montes.

[2:27:40] Welcome.

[2:27:49] Good evening, Mayor Canina and on Will City Council today we're going to be providing an update

[2:27:54] on the Economic Development Action Plan implementation and also providing an update or a recap

[2:28:00] of the Innovating Commerce, Serving Communities, ICSC, Vegas Conference that we recently

[2:28:06] attended.

[2:28:11] First of all, a little quick timeline here as far as how we got where we're at right now.

[2:28:17] The main thing here to point out is where the EDAP was originally adopted in November 2023.

[2:28:25] So we're quickly coming up to three years since we adopted the plan.

[2:28:33] The way the plan is organized, there's several focus areas.

[2:28:36] and then there's action items related to those focus areas.

[2:28:42] So these are some highlights for 25, 26,

[2:28:46] including an action item of creating a hotel and restaurant guide.

[2:28:51] So we have a draft put together that we've been going with to the

[2:28:55] semester and areas and we've been, so we have a draft.

[2:28:58] We think we're pretty close to kind of getting that finalized.

[2:29:02] We did a comprehensive update to the Shopping Center Retail Guide, which we added hotels in there, so

[2:29:11] that was recently done. We're looking probably to do another update pretty soon on that too.

[2:29:18] Action item working with hotels for package deals, so we've worked with, we talked to the

[2:29:22] and they here is they both agreed to provide a discount code so that's going to be

[2:29:28] included in the hotel guide here once we get that all wrapped up.

[2:29:34] A focus area here is for city hauling gaugements a couple action items develop

[2:29:41] be toolkit for businesses of available programs like resources for businesses.

[2:29:47] So we did a fountain valley small business conference we held that in February this year

[2:29:51] and it was attended by a Sydney Flonterpreneurs who worked with SBDC on that, they provide

[2:29:56] the speaker to provide the facility and also the chamber.

[2:30:00] So we came to help us get the word out. Then we had a resource fair where there was a bunch of

[2:30:05] business resources available for all the attendees. We've been from we've been more actively promoting

[2:30:12] SBDC and score business learning opportunities on city of social media. So if you guys had been seeing those, but we've been trying to get those out,

[2:30:19] make sure it's going out to our residents. For action item, develop a strategic foreign direct investment plan.

[2:30:26] One thing we did this year is we attended the Select LA Conference, which is put on by the LA EDC.

[2:30:34] So it's kind of one day conference for trade, cultural exchange, we were able to meet folks from a couple of different consulates.

[2:30:43] And there may also be more FDI opportunities through the Orange County Business Council.

[2:30:48] They now have FDI committees, so we're going to start looking to maybe get involved with them on that.

[2:30:56] Continuing on City Hall engagement,

[2:30:59] Strington Social Media presents.

[2:31:01] So this year we've done several mayors messages

[2:31:03] working with PCTA and filmed a couple of social media clips

[2:31:09] that featured fountain valley businesses.

[2:31:13] And that's a couple of lists of the businesses

[2:31:17] that we included this year.

[2:31:20] Continuing on City Hall engagement,

[2:31:22] This featuring Azure 9 featuring new business successes in the openings, so we're actively

[2:31:29] trying to be consistent in highlighting new businesses in the Fountain Valley newsletters,

[2:31:35] so we make sure we're conscious of that, and we've had a couple of grand openings this year,

[2:31:40] actively participate in industry organizations and community engagement, so we've been working

[2:31:45] closely with the chamber.

[2:31:47] We worked on several initiatives including the Fountain Valley Small Business Conference, and

[2:31:52] regularly attend their board meetings. So we just try and get a collaboration with the chamber there.

[2:32:02] So focus area here is restaurant and nightlife. So explore the possibility, actually I'm

[2:32:07] going to explain the possibility of a night market. So we had a night market that we started

[2:32:11] over at the fountain full, 25 ran through most of the year there. Fountain ball has some new

[2:32:19] leagues coming in. So it's like we're not going to be able to continue it there, but we're looking

[2:32:22] for the vendor wants to come back and we want them to come back so we're starting to look

[2:32:28] and trying to identify a permanent location for them so we're continuing to work on the

[2:32:32] night market.

[2:32:35] Other economic development activities conduct a survey a small business community

[2:32:39] so we collaborated with the SPDC and then the chamber. SPDC does an annual small business survey

[2:32:47] And they welcome cities to come on board to help promote it.

[2:32:53] So we kind of took them up on that offer and we want to make sure we got a good response from our found value businesses.

[2:32:59] So their survey included orange, Riverside, Semberneo counties.

[2:33:03] They had about 1200 responses and they received three two responses from found value businesses.

[2:33:13] This is focus area shopping centers.

[2:33:15] So this is action item is to participate in trade shows.

[2:33:18] So, this is the ICSC, which is 10 of the, well, Western Conference in Palm Springs, and the ICSC Las Vegas Conference, May of this year, which we take our city booth there, and so that kind of leads us into a recap of the ICSC event.

[2:33:39] So, who do we meet with the very real estate representatives, developers, retailers, representatives, some of our current centers and then consultants also?

[2:33:53] So, it's a one day one and a half day pretty much is what it kind of comes out to and then there's a half day where we kind of bring everything down and close up shop there.

[2:34:04] So, a couple of major takeaways from ICSC this year, so you mark a, they represent

[2:34:11] several restaurants that want to be in fountain valley,

[2:34:16] so that our current retail vacancy

[2:34:18] rate at 0%, so 0.7% is what we just checked right now, it's not a whole lot out there,

[2:34:25] but we do know restaurants want to come to the city. Real TN come, who owns the center corner

[2:34:32] with the Curacao, the advice that they extended their lease.

[2:34:37] So they're going to be there.

[2:34:38] Looks like for the foreseeable future that we talked about,

[2:34:43] maybe exploring the addition of potential restaurant

[2:34:46] pads in their parking area.

[2:34:48] So that might be some options as there.

[2:34:52] Housing developers, still interesting,

[2:34:53] coming to Fountain Valley, but there's limited opportunities

[2:34:56] right now.

[2:34:58] And we talked with representatives of the former Chase Building

[2:35:01] on Garfield that Magnolia, Chase is still playing on that building and their lease is going

[2:35:07] to continue going to 2033. So they're actively marketing it but that's going to be a challenging

[2:35:14] site for is eventually getting something there. It's our advisors, they provide an update on the

[2:35:21] Mimi's Cafe so it's unknown if Mimi's going to renew their lease so they're exploring options

[2:35:26] And we've been talking about them, about potential helping them with the potential options

[2:35:34] and city questions that they may have.

[2:35:40] So earlier we talked about we're coming up soon under a three year of our current economic

[2:35:45] development action plan.

[2:35:46] So we have kind of we're starting looking to kind of the next steps and so we have kind of

[2:35:51] of a timeline to do possibly an update.

[2:35:53] So, we're looking at maybe a total of November doing an RFP awarding agreement in December 26th

[2:36:00] and then getting the consultants started in the gathering information phase January 27th

[2:36:07] and then hopefully have a new EDAP adopted by June 2027.

[2:36:12] So, we're starting a couple of consultants at ICSE and we kind of started talking about opportunities

[2:36:19] there for that.

[2:36:22] kind of as we've been implementing this current one, we kind of talked about where some kind

[2:36:27] of focusaries and challenges that maybe we'll address in the new EDAP and then we're talking

[2:36:33] about maybe looking at the crossing specific plan again, taking another look at that, you

[2:36:38] know, there's tight markets for retail, industrial and office, so kind of how can we kind

[2:36:46] address that if we still want to do business attraction but there's not a whole lot of options

[2:36:52] there so we're going to maybe talk about that during that cost of commercial kitchens that has

[2:36:58] been real obstacle as far as anyone trying to open a restaurant in the city. Part of the reason

[2:37:06] in this implementation was vacant for so long. It's just that cost of a commercial kitchen so

[2:37:12] And then support for manufacturing businesses.

[2:37:15] We still have significant manufacturers in the city,

[2:37:17] so we want to make sure whatever we come up with

[2:37:21] with that we include them on there.

[2:37:27] And that's it.

[2:37:32] All right.

[2:37:32] Thanks for that presentation.

[2:37:34] Are there any comments from Council?

[2:37:36] Vicemer Harper.

[2:37:38] Thank you.

[2:37:40] Can you go back to the first slide to talk about the hotel guide?

[2:37:42] I think it was.

[2:37:47] So this one.

[2:37:48] What is that available is that in print form or

[2:37:52] We're still we're still we have like a really close draft that we kind of haven't finally yet

[2:37:57] So we got some last comments from

[2:38:00] The semester on it, so we're kind of in the process of getting their last comments in on that and then once it's finalized where will it be circulated?

[2:38:08] It would be digital. So I mean we can get it out a bunch of different ways now the

[2:38:12] The focus area here is Myosquirt Park, so in the action plan, it talks about a recreation

[2:38:18] department when we have leagues that come in and they're staying for the weekends and

[2:38:23] so.

[2:38:24] Yeah, wherever the organizer is for that league, we can make sure we're getting that over to

[2:38:29] them and getting them to come stay at our fountain valley hotel instead of going to our neighboring

[2:38:33] cities.

[2:38:35] Okay.

[2:38:35] All right.

[2:38:35] That's good.

[2:38:36] Thank you.

[2:38:37] Yeah, Vice Mayor Harper.

[2:38:38] It's a really nice brochure.

[2:38:40] I picked what up here in the city hall and it's got, you know, it shows like 3037

[2:38:47] actual locations. Pretty cool. Yeah, so it's my gift to you.

[2:38:57] Just curious, it seems like this is a big effort, a lot of money, et cetera,

[2:39:02] with the vacancy rate of 0.7% especially in retail. What more can we do? Like

[2:39:11] It's not a lot, you know, we could, we could try to get people to come, but there's no room.

[2:39:16] Yeah, that's what we're finding that's presents and challenging, but I think it's important to still continue to

[2:39:21] go to like the ICC conferences to continue these relationships with these real estate folks.

[2:39:28] There will come a time where it's, you know, it's not as good as it is right now.

[2:39:33] So it's good to have those connections though.

[2:39:35] Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.

[2:39:37] I can turn up the opportunity to talk about economic development.

[2:39:40] And first, I want to thank Victor.

[2:39:42] He's doing an amazing job coming into the city and strengthening our team.

[2:39:46] This is actually Ron's last meeting with us.

[2:39:48] He's taken a position somewhere else.

[2:39:50] I want to thank him for his efforts as well.

[2:39:52] I vote no one there.

[2:39:53] Yeah, he's here.

[2:39:54] He'd let me vote on an either.

[2:39:56] One of the things we are trying to do is create more space.

[2:40:00] So in that Carousel shopping center, we've talked to the property owner to see if we can add

[2:40:04] some additional pads because we have such a low vacancy rate.

[2:40:07] And so one of the things that we can do at ICSC and the conferences is not only

[2:40:12] tried to attract more folks and we make sure we have people that want to come

[2:40:16] in town but then also try to either bring them into spaces that we have or

[2:40:20] maybe create new spaces and show property owners that there is demand and if

[2:40:24] they build it that we have so many that would be interested in it.

[2:40:27] Good answer.

[2:40:31] Councilwoman Constit?

[2:40:32] Sure. I want to say Victor. Thank you very much for a great

[2:40:35] presentation and Ron, we're going to miss you for sure. You can't leave. But anyway, we had

[2:40:42] such a great time at ICSC. Both of you are stellar and really enjoy all the progress that

[2:40:48] we're making, you know, sometimes businesses close, new ones open, business is shift around

[2:40:54] and it's great to connect with other cities and developers and investors and people really

[2:41:03] very highly of you guys both the city and our staff and it was really a great experience and thank you

[2:41:10] so much from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. All right, thanks so much appreciate it gentlemen.

[2:41:23] Okay, last presentation is a new citywide recruitment video introduction by Human Resources Manager

[2:41:29] Tamron Roberts. Welcome.

[2:41:37] Good evening Mayor and members of the city council. My name is Tamron Roberts

[2:41:41] and a Human Resources Manager here with the City Pountain Valley.

[2:41:45] I'm pleased to introduce the City's new recruitment video,

[2:41:49] a project that directly supports one of the city's adopted three-year goals,

[2:41:54] attracting and retaining quality staff through best practices

[2:41:57] and emerging recruitment trends.

[2:42:00] And as you may recall, this video was also a short term goal

[2:42:04] as part of our six-month strategic objective.

[2:42:07] As competition for qualified employees continues to increase throughout local government,

[2:42:13] it's important that the city utilizes modern and effective recruitment tools that help us tell a story

[2:42:18] and showcase what makes Fountain Valley a great place to work.

[2:42:23] Development of this recruitment video began in January of 2026 and has been a collaborative effort

[2:42:29] involving staff for multiple city departments.

[2:42:32] From the outset, our goal was to create a video that authentically represents our organization, our employees, and our community.

[2:42:41] Rather than relying on stock images or outside actors, we wanted the individual's featured in the video to be the people who make city services possible every day.

[2:42:52] Representatives from numerous departments participated in the project, allowing us to showcase the wide variety of career opportunities available within the city.

[2:43:01] The purpose of the recruitment video is three folds.

[2:43:05] Number one to showcase our people.

[2:43:08] We want to perspective applicants to see the dedicated professionals who serve our community every day,

[2:43:14] and gain a sense of the collaborative culture that exists throughout the organization.

[2:43:18] Number two to reflect our workforce.

[2:43:21] The city is fortunate to have a workforce that represents a broad range of backgrounds, experiences and perspectives.

[2:43:27] It was important that the video reflect the diversity of our employees and demonstrate that

[2:43:33] Fountain Valley is a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

[2:43:37] And finally, number three, to highlight Fountain Valley is a great place to live and work.

[2:43:42] In addition to showcasing our employees, we wanted to feature the community itself.

[2:43:47] Fountain Valley offers an exceptional quality of life outstanding public services, beautiful

[2:43:52] parks and facilities, and a strong sense of community pride.

[2:43:55] The video emphasizes not only why someone would want to work here, but also why they want to be a part of the Fountain Valley community.

[2:44:04] This video will serve as a valuable recruitment tool by enhancing job announcements and recruitment campaigns,

[2:44:11] providing candidates with a better understanding of our organizational culture, helping our city stand out in a competitive labor market,

[2:44:19] Supporting ongoing efforts to attract highly qualified and engaged applicants and strengthening our employer brand and reputation as an employer of choice.

[2:44:31] This video will be utilized across multiple platforms including the city's website, social media channels, recruitment postings, job fairs and other outreach efforts.

[2:44:41] I would like to thank the employees and departments who participated in this project, both as an organizer and a featured employee.

[2:44:49] They're willingness to share their experiences and represent a city made it possible to create a video that genuinely reflects the people and values

[2:44:57] to make Fountain Valley such a special organization.

[2:45:00] And of course, we think the council for supporting this important endeavor. At this time, I'm pleased to present the city's new recruitment video.

[2:45:10] It's like we need a drum roll.

[2:45:21] 1957, the City of Bound Valley has earned this reputation as a nice place to live.

[2:45:25] Define by the City's beautiful parks, well maintained streets, and excellent recreation programs.

[2:45:31] This reputation didn't happen by chance, but it's the result of the people who show up every day.

[2:45:36] Committed to serving the Bound Valley community.

[2:45:39] We're getting a local government out of the community so that we can give the authors to these leaders

[2:45:43] direct impact on the community.

[2:45:45] Can they provide a small business and a private sector working for the city

[2:45:48] about the value of the spending rate of students?

[2:45:50] For me, it is very broad back to the sense of community

[2:45:52] and cooperation between working with the police.

[2:45:56] Even though the city is a smaller agency,

[2:45:59] having the ability to work with so many different phases

[2:46:02] and many different perspectives has brought us

[2:46:05] a new light to everything that I do,

[2:46:07] and I really appreciate that.

[2:46:10] located in the heart of Orange County in home to over 55,000 residents, but Boutin Valley is known for its state.

[2:46:17] The neighborhood is providing local economy and outstanding quality of life.

[2:46:21] The Comcactin Size, Boutin Valley is a full service city, equipped to serve our community through a comprehensive range of departments,

[2:46:29] including administration, city clerk's office, community development, finance, fire, human resources, information technology, police,

[2:46:37] Public Works and Recreation and Community Services, the prestigious nature of the city opens the doors to taping on meaningful challenges alongside a close-knit helpful staff.

[2:46:48] Our team is empowered with access to leadership, professional development opportunities, tuition reimbursement and with your pathways for advancements,

[2:46:56] bringing your best towards the table also requires a healthy workload and our team's work-life balance is outstanding.

[2:47:01] Can you come work on a low-income agency?

[2:47:05] It's a choice.

[2:47:06] And maybe I'm sure it's a start-up as it is.

[2:47:09] Whether to be in the airing of the words, working for any part of the low-income agency.

[2:47:15] Just open doors to the community and all of the community's best.

[2:47:18] When they come to the community, you can move five years from the start-up.

[2:47:22] You work for the office, and they're different.

[2:47:24] They can see a lot better.

[2:47:25] And maybe your agency is easy to get lost.

[2:47:28] a couple of times in a part of it, so you'll get to know your colleagues and know how the others

[2:47:35] participate because you are so close to it. And I really pray that that's in terms of

[2:47:41] integrated. What truly says Mount Valley Apart is its culture.

[2:47:45] One of the values of fresh perspectives encourages growth and brings a genuine sense of

[2:47:50] money. Our team is guided by a citywide vision to be a safe, inclusive, and desirable community.

[2:47:56] for everyone to live their best life and by addition to deliver exceptional service through a team oriented approach.

[2:48:03] That commitment is grounded in poor values that shape everything we do.

[2:48:07] Physical responsibility, honesty, integrity, teamwork, excellent customer service, innovation and dedication to advancing quality of life.

[2:48:15] being in such small communities, everything that we can do as an impact on people that work in the business.

[2:48:21] Just being contactable person.

[2:48:24] You can actually consider that.

[2:48:25] The work we're going to realize is really great.

[2:48:27] We need support and the support from the supervisors and the co-workers.

[2:48:31] This is something I've never seen before.

[2:48:32] And really, it's really, really fantastic.

[2:48:34] Rather than just support.

[2:48:35] If someone was considering a job that you see,

[2:48:38] if I'm not going to have a job that's not going to be done.

[2:48:40] If someone was considering a job that you see, if I'm not going to have a job.

[2:48:42] If someone was considering a job that you see,

[2:48:45] the day of the day is just fantastic.

[2:48:47] We're looking at the investments in the size of section.

[2:48:50] It's a very small nip that we've got in the position.

[2:48:54] How we encourage the little fighter.

[2:48:56] I love working here.

[2:48:57] How the forward coming work.

[2:48:59] And I enjoy serving as students.

[2:49:01] Joining our team also comes with access to an exceptional

[2:49:05] benefits package, including Calculus Health Insurance

[2:49:08] Plan Options, basication and six-time.

[2:49:11] 11 paid holidays, membership in the California Public Employees

[2:49:14] retirement system, flexible spending accounts, generous tuition reimbursement, deferred compensation

[2:49:20] matching, flexible work schedules, such as 410 and 980, employee assistance program, and a widely

[2:49:27] full-paid program. If you're looking for a career where you can make an impact, found

[2:49:32] Valley is the place for you. Learn more about joy in our team and about Valley Talk Up.

[2:49:43] All right, that was great. I'm going to look forward to

[2:49:50] your applause.

[2:49:50] Good evening. I just wanted to thank everyone for their support in this recruitment video.

[2:49:54] It really is a testament of the wonderful people that work here in serve the community and thank you,

[2:49:59] Cameron, for all that you've done for this as well.

[2:50:01] So thank you.

[2:50:02] Great job.

[2:50:09] Okay, next is first city council's successor agency housing authority public comments on unscheduled matters only.

[2:50:15] Do we have any requests to speak?

[2:50:16] We have no request to speak.

[2:50:19] Okay, next is public comments on scheduled matters only.

[2:50:22] Are there any requests to speak?

[2:50:23] We have a few requests to speak.

[2:50:25] on items 10 and 16 at least 10 and 16.

[2:50:35] So if it's a pleasure of the council,

[2:50:37] we'll do those comments at those agenda items.

[2:50:43] Next is consent calendar items 1 through 8,

[2:50:47] which would be approved simultaneously with one motion,

[2:50:50] unless separate action or discussion is requested.

[2:50:53] Are there any items that council wishes to pull?

[2:51:01] OK, here I am now.

[2:51:02] So, entertain a motion.

[2:51:03] Make a motion to approve items number 1 through 8.

[2:51:09] And have a second.

[2:51:10] How's that good?

[2:51:11] It's a vote.

[2:51:21] Just waiting for Vice Mayor Harper to vote.

[2:51:28] It's items 1 through 8 past 5-0.

[2:51:33] Okay, we're moving to public hearings.

[2:51:35] Just a reminder each person will have up to three minutes to speak on each public hearing.

[2:51:40] So, we'll start with item 9, code amendment 26-0-3,

[2:51:43] amending Fountain Valley Municipal Code Section 21.18-13-0.

[2:51:48] establishing objective design standards for multi-family and mixed residential

[2:51:52] excuse residential projects presentation deputy city manager community development director on our dad boy

[2:51:58] Welcome. Yes, sir. Good evening once again

[2:52:00] We have before you this evening consideration of a set of objective design standards to guide future residential and

[2:52:07] mixed use developments in the city

[2:52:09] The reason this item is being presented to you for consideration is that the states

[2:52:14] continues to fundamentally reshape how housing is being processed and the applications move

[2:52:22] forward in the city. Traditionally in what you've seen in the last year or two is

[2:52:26] we brought you entitlement packages that are discretionary that comes to the planning commission

[2:52:30] in city council for your review. However the state is pushing cities more and more to

[2:52:36] administratively or by-right approval which means a meet certain criteria and if the meet those

[2:52:41] criteria they get approved. And so there's a number of state laws that have been recently passed

[2:52:46] that push continually pushed the city in that direction. Recently you saw an ordinance

[2:52:53] that came before you that conforms with state law which requires the city to consider housing

[2:52:58] projects that provide 20% affordable units to be considered ministerially. That was something

[2:53:04] that state ACD asked us to do, even though it was part of state law, which the city council

[2:53:10] did.

[2:53:11] But once something becomes administrative by right and not an entitlement, our ability to work

[2:53:18] with the applicant somewhat diminishes, or greatly diminishes actually, as I said as long

[2:53:24] as they meet certain criteria, then that application continues to move forward and get approved.

[2:53:30] And so what many cities are doing is adopting objective design standards.

[2:53:36] So right now we have subjective discussions between staff and the applicant in terms of design and see a number of parking spaces, amenities, those types of things.

[2:53:48] And so what this does is it creates those objective design standards that are measurable that developers know that they have to meet.

[2:53:57] and if they don't meet those, and they go through a ministerial process, then their project

[2:54:01] does not get approved.

[2:54:03] It does not replace our zoning code.

[2:54:06] The zoning code still deals with things like setbacks and stepbacks and height limitations.

[2:54:11] These would be more related to design work.

[2:54:16] The Planning Commission did hear this at their April 8th meaning and by a vote of 4 to 0,

[2:54:21] did recommend that the city council adopt the ordinance before you.

[2:54:25] We did receive comments from one of the major landowners in the city.

[2:54:30] They recommended some changes.

[2:54:31] We thought there's ability to some of those.

[2:54:33] And so you have a red line version in front of you with some of those changes incorporated.

[2:54:38] And now I like to turn over the microphone to Alan Lumis.

[2:54:42] He is with placeworks.

[2:54:43] As you recall, placeworks helped us, excuse me, adopt our new general plan.

[2:54:49] They helped us with our inclusionary housing ordinance with our resounds.

[2:54:52] And this is one of the last items that they are assisting us, which to implement our

[2:54:59] general plan and housing elements.

[2:55:00] So I want to walk you through some of the major focus areas of the design standards.

[2:55:08] Welcome, Alan.

[2:55:09] Thank you.

[2:55:10] Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, pleasure to be here this evening.

[2:55:13] I know you have a busy evening, still to come, so I'm done to be efficient and presentation.

[2:55:20] That being said, how do I move this slide?

[2:55:22] you can just use the arrow key on the keyboard exponent.

[2:55:28] So as a community development director indicated,

[2:55:32] the reason we're here is because the state legislature

[2:55:35] of the past 10 years has passed the battery of flaws

[2:55:37] intended to accelerate housing production.

[2:55:40] And one of the key components of that is pushing approval

[2:55:43] of housing developments that incorporate

[2:55:45] affordable units to a ministerial approval.

[2:55:50] And the cities are now obligated to use what is referred to as objective design standards as they evaluate those proposals and offer them approval or send them back to the drawing board.

[2:56:04] One of those state laws, Senate Bill 35, one of the early ones, does provide a definition of what is meant by objective design standards, so this is the definition that comes out of the California government code.

[2:56:15] And so you can see one of the kind of key components is an external or uniform benchmark that an applicant can't know before they submit the application.

[2:56:26] What does that look like in practice? Well, on the left-hand side of this table, you have subjective design guidelines, which is what cities have relied on for many years to evaluate projects.

[2:56:40] And so it's not uncommon that cities might have adopted design guidelines and the kind of key criteria that's being used as a phrase like as on the bottom left development should put the character of the community.

[2:56:53] Well under the current state law, there's a lot of ambiguity about that. What is character mean what is community is community mean the entire city. Does it mean just the immediate neighborhood? How big is that immediate neighborhood? Is it the immediate block?

[2:57:05] Or is it just the two parcels directly adjacent to the development and question?

[2:57:11] All of that is unknown with that kind of language.

[2:57:15] Whereas on the right hand side you have language like will, shall, must, and then very kind

[2:57:21] of clear sort of statements of intent that could be measured or kind of evaluated objectively.

[2:57:28] To put this into visual terms, the illustrations on the left are not from Fountain Valley,

[2:57:34] from other communities, but they're pretty typical of the kinds of illustrations, cities, design

[2:57:40] guidelines might have used in the past. So it's about the modulation of building heights

[2:57:46] and it kind of up and down pattern of roof lines. So if you could even read the many zero-ox

[2:57:53] times over illustration, I'm still would not tell you exactly what is expected other than to have

[2:57:58] some different roof forms.

[2:58:00] The illustration on the right is the exact same discussion

[2:58:03] and the proposed objective design standards

[2:58:05] that are in front of you for fountain valley.

[2:58:08] So it provides very clear definitions about what's expected.

[2:58:12] The illustration is on the right.

[2:58:14] We relate to the modulation of building heights.

[2:58:17] All those are dimensions, strings that give very precise

[2:58:19] dimensions and expectations.

[2:58:22] So an applicant would know what the expectations are.

[2:58:25] Your city staff could pull out a ruler

[2:58:27] and measure whether an applicant actually meets the expectations or not.

[2:58:34] So, in summary, what this, the implications of all of this is that we really need to shift

[2:58:40] from a sort of format where we would say, should please encourage to do this on the design

[2:58:47] side and move to this kind of very precise shell and must-language.

[2:58:52] And so this now enables what is mandated by the state which is ministerial or effectively over the counter reviewed by your planning staff of qualifying housing development and becomes the only basis by which your staff can turn projects back to the drawing board if the development comes forward doesn't meet the objective design standards city staff can say you don't meet the standards go back to the drawing board kind of dialogue you typically have in public hearing.

[2:59:19] The state's intention of all this is to make development more predictable and streamline housing development.

[2:59:32] So onto the document that's in front of you for consideration the planning commission reviewed a few months ago.

[2:59:40] It is a standalone document that exists outside of your development code.

[2:59:45] So we're not integrating this into the development code.

[2:59:47] by a very strategic amendment to your development code that we'll incorporate this by reference.

[2:59:54] One of the key features of this is it means that this independent document that we present.

[3:00:00] It should you find that it's not working for you. It'll be fairly effective and easy just to amend this individual document without having to open up the entire development code.

[3:00:11] It will cover single-family, multi-family development and mixed-use development as indicated in the bullets.

[3:00:18] These standards will apply city-wide, so they will cover the entirety of the city, but they will only apply to new construction.

[3:00:27] And we do have a definition about how to deal with kind of major renovations, so we're covering

[3:00:33] ourselves there.

[3:00:34] And as a community development director indicated, these do not change or modify your

[3:00:39] development code standards that relate to allowable density, allowable height, your basic

[3:00:44] setbacks, et cetera.

[3:00:45] You're existing development code standards remain in place.

[3:00:49] This is a kind of overlay of design criteria that goes on top of those standards.

[3:00:55] So there's five basic chapters, we have a section on purpose.

[3:01:01] This is important in that it defines different development skills, small, medium, and

[3:01:05] large based on overall acreage or number of units are building height and on the chart

[3:01:11] on the right, all the standards apply to the large developments but as you get to the

[3:01:17] or small-scale developments less standard supply.

[3:01:21] So this is intended to make it more effective and easier for less well-finance,

[3:01:28] they're kind of small-scale developers, your mom and pop developers,

[3:01:31] who have smaller lots to be able to move through the process more effectively.

[3:01:36] And quite frankly, a number of these standards that we wrote really don't apply

[3:01:39] to small-scale development, but they do to very large development.

[3:01:44] As mentioned, there is a section that deals with single family

[3:01:47] development.

[3:01:50] And so, again, this is related to new construction. One of the key kind of criteria

[3:01:54] that this is attempting to address is the scale and the size and the footprint and location

[3:02:01] of second story kind of additions, if you will. New houses that are kind of for homes that are

[3:02:09] being demolished entirely and then they're building a two story house and a neighborhood that

[3:02:12] maybe is historically single family. How are you supposed to position that second floor? There's

[3:02:17] some basic criteria for how to make the front of the house attractive, I would say we took

[3:02:25] pains as we wrote this to try and include in here the things that pretty much any homeowner

[3:02:29] would aspire to. You would want to have an attractive front door and you'd want to have some

[3:02:33] decoration on the front of the house for maybe a mixed materials. So this is fairly light handed again

[3:02:38] intended to apply to new construction, not the renovations of people's existing homes.

[3:02:44] On the multi-family side, this is where the bulk of the document works.

[3:02:49] We have a big discussion on site planning and how to organize vehicle circulation

[3:02:53] on sites.

[3:02:54] So these sections, for example, only apply to those large sites, not to the small

[3:02:58] sites that might be under two acres, where it's really just one building.

[3:03:03] We have a pretty extensive discussion on open space.

[3:03:07] So one of the key components here is that you have standards for a certain amount of

[3:03:12] or footage of open space per units, and then applicants

[3:03:16] can sort of decide under a current regime,

[3:03:18] kind of decide how they wanted to distribute that open space.

[3:03:22] So here we're saying there are specific things we'd like to see

[3:03:25] in terms of amenities based on the scale of the development.

[3:03:29] It is a sort of menu option.

[3:03:32] So we say, if you're a development, for example,

[3:03:34] between 21 and 30 units, you either have to provide us

[3:03:38] with one major amenity or two minor amenities.

[3:03:41] And then we define what we mean by a major amenity or minor amenity, so an applicant has the ability to tailor their project based on how they intend to market the project, who they see their future residents to be, etc.

[3:03:54] So there's still a high degree of choice, but what those amenities are gets pretty precise in a way it's measured.

[3:04:02] Big discussion on mass and scale that really kicks in when you have buildings that get over three stories tall.

[3:04:07] So this is your larger multifamily structure, such as what's being built across the street.

[3:04:11] So again, a bunch of standards that relate to the articulation of the upper floors of that building being set back or kind of terrorists and some fashion, some standards that relate to preventing a giant blank facade and having the sort of in-out patterns of, you know, the facade being having some degree of sort of articulation and then some special thinking about like a buildings occupied corners or other unique sites how they should address architecturally those kind of particular characteristics.

[3:04:40] Discussion on material details, the resusciting of windows, all that sort of is covered here.

[3:04:49] And then some standards related to mixed use that go beyond what's in your zoning code,

[3:04:54] which is kind of a proto version.

[3:04:56] Your zoning code today has objective design standards related to mixed use development.

[3:05:02] We helped write those as part of the general plan efforts, so there's sort of the beginning of an objective design standards

[3:05:08] that you already have, we're building on this by trying to talk about how entries should be

[3:05:13] located for vertical mix to use where you have commercial on the ground for residential

[3:05:17] above or what you should do when you have one site with a commercial building setting next

[3:05:22] to residential building and potentially a parking garage that might serve us one or both

[3:05:27] of those uses. So we have standards associated with those problems. As a community development

[3:05:33] director indicated after we went to planning commission we received a letter from one of the

[3:05:38] development companies active in the city. They had very specific comments that are based on their

[3:05:45] experience doing development and found valley and kind of the Orange County region. We looked

[3:05:50] at most of those and thought they were perfectly sound and legitimate comments based on construction

[3:05:55] logic. And so the red line version, that's in front of you, though, we'd be asking you

[3:06:02] to adopt, does it incorporate the majority of those comments and be prepared to kind

[3:06:06] of talk to any of those if you are so inclined? And so with that, I thank you for your time,

[3:06:13] intention, and leave it with a recommendation from the Community Development Director.

[3:06:19] Great, thanks so much. I'll open up two comments from Council.

[3:06:21] Thanks, my harbor.

[3:06:24] Thank you.

[3:06:25] I had a couple of questions.

[3:06:27] So you mentioned applies to single family multi family mixed use, so not industrial commercial.

[3:06:32] I guess there's no ministerial.

[3:06:34] Correct.

[3:06:35] You know, for better or worse, the state of California legislature doesn't seem to care if it takes you 10 years to entitle a car dealership or anything.

[3:06:43] But they do care how long it takes you to go housing development.

[3:06:46] And for a single family, if there's some standards in there, what would be an example of a single family ministerial approval type of a project?

[3:06:58] Can I turn to the community development to work around that one?

[3:07:05] So this was also meant to satisfy some of the issues we're having with the infill development.

[3:07:09] So if you've built this single family home, it's not in, there's no entitlement, currently it's good to ministerial process.

[3:07:16] And so we wanted to make sure we covered one unit being built to you and is being built as we have in the city.

[3:07:25] So how is it different from what we do now?

[3:07:29] It just covers, so we have some very dated, I say,

[3:07:32] 30 or 40 year old standards for infill that are outdated.

[3:07:36] And so this covers line of sites and other people's windows and backyards and those types of things.

[3:07:43] if you're putting a home in a single-family area and in filling.

[3:07:49] Okay, but it wouldn't be a it's different from the multi-family

[3:07:55] grant, a ministerial process, okay.

[3:07:58] And this is one of the areas a planning commission chair actually wanted us to come back with

[3:08:02] and do a little deeper into which we'll do in the near future.

[3:08:05] Okay, all right, thank you.

[3:08:07] Councilwoman Constantine.

[3:08:08] So, I've looked through now a couple of times, I don't have a red line version, do we know

[3:08:15] it's specific pages, the Mr. Sakioka has a situation with?

[3:08:23] Because I don't see anything red in here, and I literally just went page by page, not knowing

[3:08:30] that there was anything like this. So while we're waiting on that, so how does this potentially

[3:08:36] change what's across the street. I mean, it's not going to change because it's already approved,

[3:08:40] but looking at the big scheme of things, if this would have been the case that this might have

[3:08:45] been approved back in 2022, what might have been affected a light version of that, what for the

[3:08:52] former boomerslot at Magnoia and Warner and then the Yucca in Hile, just some nuances that if this

[3:09:02] have been approved before those had gone through technically speaking.

[3:09:07] So since those were discretionary projects, we would still have the same discussion.

[3:09:12] We hopefully would have gotten to the same point.

[3:09:15] This allows us to, even if it's discretionary permit, still rely on these standards.

[3:09:21] So it does still impact those projects, but we still, with those discretionary projects,

[3:09:24] have the ability to negotiate with the developer.

[3:09:27] Because I'm not crazy for this. I don't like, I mean most people think I like a lot of government, but

[3:09:33] This is a California state thing, am I not correct?

[3:09:36] Yes, there are other states doing this or

[3:09:38] So right now we're kind of unprotected. So if somebody comes in for a ministerial project, I don't want under one of those bills that Alan listed out there

[3:09:44] We would not have anything in place that would

[3:09:48] Create list out any objective design standards. So there's amenities

[3:09:53] architectural features, those types of things that we care about in the city.

[3:09:58] We would not have the ability to regulate that in the way that we need to.

[3:10:02] So this puts a layer, a protection in for the city in case somebody does come back with

[3:10:06] that type of application.

[3:10:07] Sure.

[3:10:07] I mean, I'm all for consistency at the counter, and I think we do a really good job of that,

[3:10:12] but this is kind of heavy.

[3:10:16] So do we have any news about the red line situation, or do we have a specific, are there

[3:10:21] certain pages that we are noting?

[3:10:28] I would say that that's for a cross

[3:10:30] about 10 pages, approximately.

[3:10:36] The city of Quebec is providing you with that copy.

[3:10:38] OK, thank you.

[3:10:41] Any other questions from Council?

[3:10:43] Yes, well, wait for that.

[3:10:46] Oh, she's back.

[3:10:48] No, OK.

[3:10:51] OK, what you're proposing here, I

[3:10:55] assume it's by reference to the SB9.

[3:10:59] SB9, AB-2011, there's a bill up or consideration right now is AB-206, so there's a slew

[3:11:06] bills that have been passed and that are being considered.

[3:11:09] Which is, I understand that this is actually help protect our city, right, and what you're

[3:11:14] proposing.

[3:11:16] But have you communicate with each city prior to, this is the road that you want to take,

[3:11:23] and have they given a feedback, what you're trying to propose tonight?

[3:11:25] Now, Alan can speak to that because he has experience with other jurisdictions.

[3:11:29] I think ATD doesn't really have any guidelines on objective design standards, but they are, I think they're in favor of cities adopting them.

[3:11:42] Yeah, if I may on this, that it's correct, HCD, the state, while they say, if you're going to review a affordable housing qualifying developments in provide ministerial review,

[3:11:54] you need to do that using objective design standards, they do not, however, tell you exactly

[3:12:00] how to construct your objective design standards.

[3:12:02] So that is a matter of local policy as, you know, if you will, the state takes away local control,

[3:12:07] but they give a little bit back in the other, in one hand.

[3:12:10] So that's kind of what's happening here.

[3:12:13] So to answer the other question, this is not being communicated to HCD, we're not sent

[3:12:20] document to them, but we have worked in over 20 communities in the state of California that

[3:12:26] has not been part of the practice, the housing and community development department does not

[3:12:31] typically review objective design standards before cities adopt them. And so what I just said

[3:12:40] by 20 plus communities, you're certainly not alone amongst communities adopting objective design

[3:12:46] standards every city in the City of California is working down this path. And so we've

[3:12:53] done this work from Shastolake, all the way down to Elisa Viejo, and everywhere in between.

[3:13:00] Okay. I'm glad that you say that. But my concern here is I don't want us to make one step

[3:13:05] forward and to a two step backward. Here's what I'm going with this. Because the city of

[3:13:11] Anyhow, did receive a conflicting reference to the Objective Standard.

[3:13:19] It's made a fact that received a letter from March 24, 2025, from ACT say that, hey,

[3:13:25] your Objective Standard does not promise the state reference to that, which is the government

[3:13:32] section code section 65852.21, parentheses B, parentheses 3, and it reads as follow.

[3:13:40] A local energy shall not impose objective zoning standard. That's what we're trying to do.

[3:13:48] Objective subdivision standard and objective design standard that do not apply uniformly to development within the underlying zone.

[3:13:59] This division shall not prevent a local agency, us, from adopting or imposing objecting zoning standard.

[3:14:07] on the development authorized by this sections, if those standard are more permits than

[3:14:14] applicable standard within the building underlying zone. So I'd have just received that,

[3:14:21] they received that in 25. The city of the town of Los Altos Hill received a letter from

[3:14:29] ACD January 26 of this year. That's why I'm trying to say I don't want to do one support until

[3:14:35] because we'll get challenged by the state.

[3:14:38] That's why I ask you.

[3:14:38] Have you come here with a city on your objective standard?

[3:14:44] We have not.

[3:14:45] We didn't want to get into the practice of setting our ordinances

[3:14:47] to ACD prior to adoption.

[3:14:50] What normally happens is that they have an enforcement division

[3:14:53] so they'll eventually review our code

[3:14:55] if they have if they take issue with it

[3:14:57] then they'll contact us, they do that.

[3:15:00] Regularly with our ADU ordinances, and then we come back to you and make those minor changes. Those two technical, I'm guessing, I'm guessing, there are technical assistance letters to those cities.

[3:15:10] Some very specific to something they adopted. I believe Placerworks has done a number of these as Alan mentioned and none of them have been challenged. And so, you know, we're coming into this after a number of cities have adopted them.

[3:15:24] And so we have that benefit of the history of not being challenged with the ECD, so I'm hoping

[3:15:30] that will be the case here.

[3:15:32] Well, I just mentioned 2C received a letter from HD challenging the objectives standard.

[3:15:38] And there are S1 zoning, which is residential, is governed by the objectives of standards,

[3:15:43] such as lot area, lot coverage setback, so forth.

[3:15:48] So as one I'm saying, I don't want to make a one step forward to step backward.

[3:15:51] Well, make sure we spend adequate time on this.

[3:15:55] Yeah.

[3:15:55] I will say, I don't know.

[3:15:57] We did not work on Los Altos Hills as far as I'm aware.

[3:16:00] We're pursuing some work in that region right now.

[3:16:03] On the city of Anaheim, we did assist Anaheim and preparing their objective design standards.

[3:16:08] And they took the approach of integrating their objective design standards directly into their development code,

[3:16:16] which kind of opened the door for conflicts with other parts

[3:16:20] their development code, they have an extraordinarily complicated code, or different parts

[3:16:25] of the city, almost have completely separate zoning codes from other parts of the zoning

[3:16:31] code.

[3:16:32] It's an extraordinarily complex zoning code to navigate.

[3:16:35] So it doesn't surprise me that there is potential conflicts between what they ultimately

[3:16:39] adopted, but I will also say they've not communicated to us that they're working on specific

[3:16:45] that they receive letters from HCD, that they are attempting to resolve.

[3:16:49] Okay, so I guess you're looking for direction for tonight, whether to adopt this or not.

[3:16:54] I don't know how my other colleagues feel, but for me, it's a no,

[3:16:59] until you can make it with HD because if it's a no, if this gets approved,

[3:17:05] what happened is the developers go in and you force them to go objective standard, design their challenges.

[3:17:13] And it's going to take to HD that we have to fight it.

[3:17:15] It's going to cost us money.

[3:17:17] So that's my intake on this.

[3:17:20] Until we get a clear direction from HCD, then I'm ready to vote.

[3:17:24] But now to the end.

[3:17:25] Two city has been received later from the memory.

[3:17:29] We still need to do a public hearing,

[3:17:32] but we need the clerk to be here.

[3:17:34] Are there any other questions from Council in the meantime?

[3:17:39] Well, I mean, is it something that we could continue if we needed to,

[3:17:43] or is it time sensitive?

[3:17:46] I would say there is some time sensitive.

[3:17:48] It's sensitivity to it.

[3:17:49] If there is an application, we just had one come in for a different project and from our understanding

[3:17:57] they tried to get that project in prior to the standards being adopted by Council so that

[3:18:06] the application tried to come in before you adopted the object design standards so that they don't

[3:18:10] have to meet them.

[3:18:11] So we're now going to protect it.

[3:18:12] We, again, as an example, we adopt ADU ordinances.

[3:18:18] If there's a provision within those that ACD objects you, we can go and fix it.

[3:18:24] But the whole ordinance isn't thrown out, and I believe that would be the case here,

[3:18:27] where if there was a provision or two that ACD objected to the whole ordinance wouldn't be thrown out,

[3:18:32] but those specific provisions may be looked at.

[3:18:36] But again, we can have the city attorney way on this.

[3:18:43] Okay, why don't we go ahead and open the public hearing?

[3:18:48] Are there any requests to speak?

[3:18:51] I have no requests to speak on this item.

[3:18:53] Okay, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing.

[3:18:58] All right.

[3:18:59] Any other questions from Councillor Paismarov?

[3:19:01] No.

[3:19:01] I just understand Councillor Boos concerns.

[3:19:07] However, I think our practice has always been to adopt the standards using experts like a place

[3:19:15] It works in the field and if a GD has issues with any of it, they can, they can contact us and we'll work it out.

[3:19:24] So I'm supportive of this and I will move the item.

[3:19:30] I will go ahead and second.

[3:19:32] Mayor, can I read the title?

[3:19:33] Yes, please.

[3:19:34] This is an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Fountain Valley.

[3:19:36] Approving Code Amendment 2603,

[3:19:39] Amending Fountain Valley Municipal Code Section 2118 130,

[3:19:42] to establish citywide objective design standards for multifamily residential

[3:19:46] and residential mixed use development projects.

[3:19:50] Any final discussion before vote?

[3:19:52] Just one of the clarifications that I'm voting note is because if the applicants is refused

[3:20:00] because of the objective standard design then it's going to challenge the city and when they

[3:20:17] will win on this case. I read the code already. And two CD have received. Notice from them

[3:20:25] miners are in one CD is removing the standard, the objectives standard, or we design in it.

[3:20:32] And but in the meantime, it causes the money to respond to the other type of game. So I don't want

[3:20:36] to put or CD in that position. So I will be in favor voting for yes. If we present this objective

[3:20:43] standard to HD, and you say, yep, you'll be objective standard,

[3:20:48] work accepted, then a work, oh well, yes, but not into that.

[3:20:53] So, Mr. Mayor, I have a question. Yes.

[3:20:54] Okay, so I just received the, we, it looks like we all received the red line version now,

[3:20:58] but I don't see how we can vote at this moment without, first of all, did you

[3:21:02] guys have the red line version? Because there's quite a bit of red lining here,

[3:21:06] and, um, I just went through it though, it's very minor, and

[3:21:09] why I've been going through it too, it's, is there a particular,

[3:21:12] Well, there's a lot of red talk about and we we can take my time to go through there's about ten pages

[3:21:18] It's not that much. I just went through it. Yeah, well,

[3:21:27] they're more developed at the developer friendly. That's for sure

[3:21:32] It's all very minor.

[3:21:42] I'm fine. I'll vote. Thank you. Hey, we have a person second. Please vote.

[3:21:53] I have a number nine passes for one

[3:21:56] Hey, when we move on to item 10, public hearing and introduction of code amendment 24-01-CA24-01,

[3:22:04] precise plan 5-8-1, P-P-5-8-1, and mitigated negative declaration and mitigation monitoring,

[3:22:12] reporting plan for the memorial, care, orange-coast medical center parking structure, presentation

[3:22:18] by senior planner, Matt Jenkins.

[3:22:22] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[3:22:23] member of the City Council.

[3:22:27] Before each night is the Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center Parking Structure Project.

[3:22:32] It includes the Code Amendment 24-01 and a proposed mitigated negative declaration and

[3:22:38] mitigated mitigation monitoring and reporting program for this project for Orange Coast

[3:22:44] Memorial.

[3:22:45] The Planning Mission previously reviewed the project and approved for a size plan number

[3:22:50] 581 for the project and recommended approval of the initial study M&D and mitigated monitoring

[3:22:57] reporting program to you tonight.

[3:23:02] So this slide shows the larger Orange Coast Memorial

[3:23:07] campus at the southeast corner of Talver and Brookhurst Street consists of five buildings and one

[3:23:13] existing parking structure. The proposal tonight is to demolish the existing surface parking lot

[3:23:20] which is in planning area 3 on the upper left of the aerial.

[3:23:26] Commonly known as the foster lot,

[3:23:29] at the corner of foster and towered avenue.

[3:23:32] The project proposes to demolish this surface parking lot with 2301 parking spaces

[3:23:37] for a five-level parking structure for Orange Coast Memorial employees and physicians.

[3:23:46] So the existing 2301 parking space parking lot,

[3:23:51] is directly west of the 9900 Talbot Medical Office Building.

[3:23:57] Again, at the southeast corner of Foster in Talbot Avenue.

[3:24:02] The location is

[3:24:07] surrounded by a different variety of different land uses

[3:24:10] with a commercial to the north and west and east and south town homes to the south

[3:24:18] and single family residential homes to the west and to the north across Talbot Avenue.

[3:24:27] So again, the project would demolish the existing surface parking lot for the construction of a free standing parking structure, with a basement level,

[3:24:38] three levels above ground and a rooftop level, four or five total levels of parking with 784 parking spaces.

[3:24:44] The parking structure would have 40 EV charters and would have a pedestrian bridge connecting to the Orange Coast Memorial campus adjacent to the 9900 Talvard Medical Office building.

[3:25:00] So again, the parking structure would be 784 parking spaces for Orange Coast Memorial employees.

[3:25:07] Just under 300,000 square feet, the height to the rooftop of the parapet of the structure would be just over 36 feet.

[3:25:16] Elvator tower, height the freestanding tower next to the Edinger Medical Group, the Talbert office building, would be just under 42 feet tall.

[3:25:28] And bridge clearance over Foster Street would be over 18 feet of clearance above the roadway.

[3:25:34] Here we have the site plan, entrance to the structure would be from Foster Street, from vehicles traveling south on Foster Street and making a turn right turn going west into the structure with two lanes for vehicle queuing for up to 22 cars before a gate automatic gate that will be triggered by either a license plate reader or other electronic device to let employees in.

[3:26:04] Again, five levels with 784 bargaining spaces.

[3:26:13] The basement level consists of 176 parking spaces,

[3:26:17] and the largest floor area of the structure, which also includes an 9800 square feet of storage for the hospital.

[3:26:25] The basement level is important part of the design because it screens.

[3:26:29] Part of the structure from view, reducing its overall height, adjacent to other land uses,

[3:26:36] and reduces that mass while being able to provide the parking that the project seeks.

[3:26:46] Back to the first level of the structure, which consists of 102, 62 parking spaces.

[3:26:53] Again, vehicles will be traveling with two lanes for the queue to automatic gates entering.

[3:26:59] Exiting for this feature will be right turn only for eastbound talbor avenue travel.

[3:27:09] Again, there will be gates automatic gates for vehicles that will be able to be triggered by either license plate readers or other electronic devices to make for a speedier exit for employees exiting.

[3:27:23] The first level also, the first level, also has the structure was designed with walls built

[3:27:33] along the first floor to prevent mid-block crop, destiny and crossings on Foster Street.

[3:27:39] Currently, it's familiar with a lot.

[3:27:42] Visitor parking is permitted over here, and there's no stripe crosswalk across Foster Street

[3:27:51] further south of Talbert, so there's a lot of unpermitted pedestrian crossings quite a few.

[3:28:00] And so this city has recognized this problem and through the design changes to that,

[3:28:06] some restrictions with all perimeter walls,

[3:28:11] will channel pedestrians towards the crosswalk at Talbert and Foster Street,

[3:28:15] so they can use a signalized crosswalk at Talbert,

[3:28:18] or if they're parking on the upper levels,

[3:28:21] we'll be directed to the pedestrian bridge

[3:28:25] that's highlighted in the blue on the first level,

[3:28:28] to provide access to the campus

[3:28:30] at a more central location closer to where

[3:28:34] the existing unpromoted crosswalk is today.

[3:28:39] So our second level has 160 spaces

[3:28:44] with about 56,000 square feet.

[3:28:47] Now since the first design iteration of the project and through meetings and planning

[3:28:55] commission input the project was revised and this second level incorporates that revision

[3:29:04] and you can see a 36 setback for the second level to the west property line which is those

[3:29:12] homes on lemon street, the backyards of this single family homes. So again, on the second

[3:29:17] level, we have an increase setback of 36 feet to the property line. And that setback carries

[3:29:25] on the third level as well, a 36 foot setback on the west side and this will allow for a reduced

[3:29:34] massing and that reduced presence of the building facing the homes on the west side on lemon street.

[3:29:46] Again, this is a third level with the 160 parking spaces being a copy of the second level and now the rooftop level

[3:29:55] Which has less than a hundred and twenty six bases, but a much larger

[3:30:00] Set back to the residential of 64 feet on the west side.

[3:30:09] So, the part of the project, in order to allow for the development,

[3:30:14] Code Amendment 241 is necessary because the existing specific plan anticipated an expansion

[3:30:20] of the current parking structure rather than construction of a new structure on the foster lot.

[3:30:25] The amendment updates the updates and makes changes to this plan to allow this parking

[3:30:31] structure in the planning area 3.

[3:30:34] It also proposes to reduce the setbacks on Talbot Avenue for the structure establishing

[3:30:40] a height maximum for the structure and vertical elements such as elevator towers.

[3:30:47] It also updates the parking standards of the specific plan to be in line with the current

[3:30:52] parking standards for the city.

[3:30:57] So as I mentioned, the setbacks, the existing setback for a Talbot is, I believe it's 50 feet,

[3:31:03] so the specific plan had to be amended in order to accommodate the proposed setback at 23 feet,

[3:31:11] Bon Talbot. The structure would be setbacks, 17 feet to foster, and on the west side,

[3:31:18] 18 feet on the first level, the second and third levels would be 36 feet at the top at 64

[3:31:24] and on the south side, all levels will be set back,

[3:31:28] 60, 60 feet to the Nervous, the town homes to the south.

[3:31:36] And this slide on the left side shows the original design

[3:31:41] with all three levels being the exact same footprint,

[3:31:45] and with the 18 foot set back to the single family homes

[3:31:48] on one and three.

[3:31:50] After several community meetings and a planning commission meeting,

[3:31:55] The study session in April, August, the applicant came back with a revised, tiered design,

[3:32:02] minimizing the massing, again, towards the Homes on Land and Street.

[3:32:08] And this section shows this proposal with the revision to the second and third floor,

[3:32:15] and then the top level with a 64 foot set back to the residents to the west.

[3:32:23] additional comments from the planning commission. One was about the stairwell location, the

[3:32:27] picture on the left side shows exposed stairwell adjacent to the single family homes. And

[3:32:34] with the tiered revision, the stairwell was also relocated to area farther away and so people

[3:32:41] will not be able to stop at the top of the stairs and have visibility over the single family

[3:32:47] homes in our backyards.

[3:32:51] This slide shows again shows this increase that back from the first

[3:32:56] middle showing the 18-foot set back to the west property line and with the revisions showing

[3:33:03] the vehicles on the first level on the picture there on ground level will still be at the 18-foot

[3:33:10] set back over the structure. You see the second level structure and their level structure will be

[3:33:16] and then with additional 28 feet, you get 264 feet for the top level for a setback.

[3:33:25] And this is another section showing that revision from the 18th of a setback to the increased

[3:33:31] setbacks from second and third and fourth levels.

[3:33:40] So additional elements to screen and buffer the project from residential, the applicant's proposed

[3:33:49] approximately 15 trees on the south side that will be intended to create vertical

[3:33:55] screening and more mature over time as in the pictures of the village

[3:33:59] traded

[3:34:03] shows at planting and five years after planting on the south side

[3:34:09] this view would be looking east. So if you were in the backyards of a

[3:34:15] home on lemon street and if you were to look east this is the rendering of

[3:34:19] And that should look like this view looks towards those backyards of the single family

[3:34:30] homes on Lennon.

[3:34:31] This view is looking west down the access road to the parking structure.

[3:34:38] And this view shows a view looking north of the structure.

[3:34:44] So if you were at the town homes to the south, this is a proposed rendering of what that

[3:34:49] look like with the mature trees after five years of planting and in its 66 feet set back

[3:34:57] to the homes here.

[3:35:01] The table provided here reflects the

[3:35:06] current parking situation at the hospital

[3:35:09] and where the existing parking is located. It's important to note that there's an existing five-level

[3:35:16] parking structure with 942 parking spaces, this proposal would shift the parking and that

[3:35:29] employee parking and that existing parking lot would transition over to this proposal

[3:35:33] a lot on foster street, freeing up space and the existing parking structure for more

[3:35:38] patients and visitors.

[3:35:41] So the parking is why we have different locations of the parking.

[3:35:46] Zone D is Zone D and two other areas are the areas where they will maintain the valet

[3:35:52] after the proposed structure and so there is currently 1353 parking spaces provided on the property.

[3:36:03] All right, Taylor here. Now keeping in line with the city's parking requirements,

[3:36:09] A one parking space for 200 square feet for medical, the table reflects the proposed parking

[3:36:18] requirements for the specific plan at a 1585 parking spaces required with an existing parking

[3:36:26] supply of 153, there is a deficit of parking after the proposed structure that would be

[3:36:39] surplus parking, you get a total number of 379 surplus parking spaces for the entire Orange Coast medical center campus.

[3:36:53] As I previously mentioned, the original

[3:37:02] specific plan has the future parking called out for as an expansion of the existing parking structure.

[3:37:13] What drives the need for this parking structure actually is, in 2007, the City Council approved the

[3:37:22] tall patient carepability that you've probably seen.

[3:37:26] And with that project, it was approved in phases, phase two was an expansion and remodel

[3:37:31] of the emergency room and phase three was parking to be constructed at a undetermined time.

[3:37:37] Well, that time is now,

[3:37:41] and Orange Custon Memorial has, over the years, looked at expanding

[3:37:44] the existing structure to the east towards Brooker Street and found that there's many utilities

[3:37:53] underground that would be costly to move the proximity to the newer patient care pavilion building

[3:38:00] would possibly require the parking structure or the patient care pavilion building to be modified

[3:38:07] because of the proximity to the parking structure.

[3:38:12] If they're to add to the existing parking structure,

[3:38:15] you have to keep in mind the existing parking structure was built

[3:38:18] in early 90s and before a lot of building code

[3:38:23] changed structurally so there may be significant upgrades

[3:38:27] that they would have to do to the existing parking structure to be

[3:38:31] to co-compliance today.

[3:38:33] So those things present challenges that could be extremely

[3:38:37] cost-per-hitted and just not workable for them.

[3:38:42] And so they proposed the parking structure on this foster law here.

[3:38:53] The Americans had several outreach meetings in September

[3:38:58] of last year and March of earlier this year.

[3:39:02] Memorial Care did provide 500 letters and they included it

[3:39:05] the Planning Commission staff report and presented that to the Planning Commission meeting.

[3:39:11] That was also included with the Planning Commission staff report, which I provided a link to you in

[3:39:18] support of the structure. Again, through these public outreach and meetings, the applicant

[3:39:25] revised their plan. They went from 862 parking spaces for their structure and with the tiered

[3:39:32] approach being mindful of the homes to the west, we reduced it to 784 parking spaces.

[3:39:42] So as a part of the project staff consulted with an ultra-systems environmental to review the

[3:39:52] project,

[3:39:56] ultra-systems and Michael Miller, which is your tonight, prepared a mitigated negative

[3:40:01] deck and

[3:40:05] MMRP for the project.

[3:40:06] That public review period was from March 3rd of this year to April 2nd.

[3:40:11] We received 16 comment letters,

[3:40:22] so the M&D identified areas of potential concern in

[3:40:25] cellar areas and were able to be found to reduce where the impacts were found to be reduced to less

[3:40:35] insignificant with mitigation and those were in areas of biological resources, cultural resources,

[3:40:42] This is geology, soils, and tribal culture resources.

[3:40:47] And again, the NMRP was prepared to ensure the implementation of measures were carried out

[3:40:53] through the project.

[3:40:55] Then additional areas have concerned to staff were reviewed in the environmental analysis

[3:41:00] that were included under as follows.

[3:41:04] So for aesthetics, we looked at lighting for aesthetics and later on with the design changes

[3:41:12] and the Plenty Commission meeting last month. I'll talk about it later. The applicant has

[3:41:18] revised the rooftop lighting for the structure.

[3:41:24] I, in aesthetics, one of the components to review

[3:41:28] aesthetics was the impacts of shadows to the homes. Now, the sun being in the south sky,

[3:41:36] the shadows, largely affects homes to the west and the applicant provided a shadow study.

[3:41:43] Over

[3:41:46] several times, showing the shadow effects over there, so a significant impact of shadows would be if it is casting over more than four hours during the hours of 90m to 5pm, during these times,

[3:42:07] and at no point does it, are the shadows more impactful than four hours at any time, and as shown several times,

[3:42:17] of the year in this equinoxin census that after 10 a.m. there should be no shadows on the west side

[3:42:28] up from the structure onto the properties on lemon street and there is some shadow

[3:42:35] effects you see in these images and a lot of that is the landscaping that will provide

[3:42:41] provided as an additional buffer on the west side and on the south side as well.

[3:42:50] So the top left being what the shadow effects would be at 7 a.m. and bottom right showing 10 a.m.

[3:42:58] in June that there would be no shadow effects from the structure onto the residential homes to the west after 10 a.m.

[3:43:11] So, with respect to transportation,

[3:43:15] this being a parking structure project

[3:43:18] for an existing hospital for existing employees,

[3:43:21] there will not be any increase in trips to the structure,

[3:43:26] because it's not generating any new trips.

[3:43:29] Therefore, since it's not intended to increase hospital staffing or services

[3:43:33] or the intensity,

[3:43:37] the project vehicle miles travel

[3:43:39] document indicated that the project would screen out because it doesn't produce any new

[3:43:44] trips in order for a project to screen out. It would have to produce less than 110 trips to

[3:43:52] the project a day. If we produce more than additional transportation analysis would be

[3:43:58] warranted. The applicant did provide a transportation impact analysis as a part of the project

[3:44:04] along with a parking management plan, and a parking study to back up their support for the

[3:44:12] structure.

[3:44:15] So, with respect to the transportation, we look at the ingress and egress of the structure,

[3:44:19] and as I previously mentioned, ingress will be a foster street from southbound vehicles, traveling

[3:44:27] southbound on a foster street from Talbert.

[3:44:30] There will be a space for approximately 22 cars on the two lanes and the drive up to there with a gate access.

[3:44:38] So that every 8 to 9 seconds, or I mean every 60 seconds, more than 8 to 9 vehicles could be going through that analyze or that number comes from analysis that did not take into consideration any license plate readers or electronic devices that would speed up the process of the gate operation.

[3:45:01] The gate operations were operated a little bit differently than maybe a fast food drive through, or a structure that is open to the public, because this structure is for employees only, so as employees returned to work, and on a daily basis they'll get familiar with the structure and the operations, and it should be a little bit quicker than your average open to the public parking structure would be familiar with operations on the territory.

[3:45:29] So,

[3:45:34] ultra-systems provided the response to comments,

[3:45:40] as a part of the environmental analysis.

[3:45:43] This slide shows recommendations from the Planning Commission and based on public comments.

[3:45:51] During the Planning Commission, it was suggested that pedestrian safety elements be added to the gate

[3:45:59] to the sidewalk for pedestrian safety and for vehicle safety. That the tower and

[3:46:07] foster traffic signal be reviewed in the timing be reviewed after

[3:46:12] occupancy of the structure to with public works to see if there's any traffic

[3:46:19] signaling that could be changed to help traffic if there is an issue that not the

[3:46:29] Hospital also provide post occupancy parking monitoring within 12 months to see how the effects

[3:46:37] of the structure and operations are affecting the neighborhood and if we need to add any additional

[3:46:44] measures that

[3:46:48] would alter operations. Also a recommending condition from the Planet Commission

[3:46:53] is at the OCMC shell implement the approved parking management plan and this one of the elements

[3:47:02] to the parking management plan and circulation that I forgot to mention from the structure

[3:47:08] to prohibit unwanted vehicle traffic traveling from Philip Street and Foster Street, Philip Street,

[3:47:16] connects Valkyr Street on the south side, which does connect to Talbert.

[3:47:24] We proposed for the site modifications to the driveway entrance to the structure to where it would be prohibited from a car,

[3:47:33] say, driving from Philips Street, snaking up, foster and trying to make a left turn, northbound, left turn into the structure where we proposed the driveway

[3:47:46] modifications so vehicles would not be able to do so. So let's prevent more traffic coming

[3:47:51] in off Phillips and then on to foster going through the townhome property into the structure.

[3:47:58] So keeping all the traffic on Talver and foster solely,

[3:48:06] that goes with the construction traffic.

[3:48:10] I'm sorry, one of the conditions with a construction plan for parking during construction.

[3:48:18] and also a neighborhood notification plan of construction activities of when those would be taking place.

[3:48:28] And another condition for lighting and glare for the parking structure after occupancy.

[3:48:37] This slide highlights some of those operational elements that the planning commission asked for such as a

[3:48:45] traffic calming devices, just basically warning elements to warn pedestrian to warn vehicles

[3:48:53] exiting of that situation. Public works review this and it will be a condition of approval

[3:49:01] and as a part of their plan check that this vehicle is part of that. And respect to lighting.

[3:49:08] So this is a photometric plan of the rooftop lighting deck. The original proposal had over 20

[3:49:17] Polites at 14.5 feet tall on the exterior edges of the structure and six in the middle

[3:49:28] as you see here. So in this photometric plan here, the little black marks are where the

[3:49:36] lights will be. So to see the six in the middle are Polites in the middle. After the planning

[3:49:43] mission meeting last month, lighting was brought up and the applicant proposed to alternatives

[3:49:50] for lighting and this one keeps six lights in the middle of the structure on the rooftop,

[3:49:57] but increases the height to 18 feet and the lights on the exterior will be wall mounted

[3:50:03] lights showing on the image on the bottom left so there will be mounted on the parapet not

[3:50:08] visible to anybody from the exterior of the structure so nearly life that would be visible

[3:50:14] would be these poles that would be to be taller than 14 and a half they would be 18 feet

[3:50:20] but through the photometric plan proves that sufficient lighting would be able to be provided

[3:50:27] on the rooftop deck and then you see it on the border on the west and east west and south sides

[3:50:32] the photometrics meaning the amount of light that is being produced reads at zero on those sides

[3:50:39] and the second option that the applicant provided was six lights but they would be at 28 feet tall to

[3:50:46] provide that lighting that's needed for visibility on the top and a 28 foot light pole on top of a

[3:50:59] very tall and probably the visibility of a 28-foot tallite pole would be visible from farther

[3:51:08] away from the exterior of the structure. So meaning down the street you would probably

[3:51:14] be able to see a 28-foot light pole a lot more than the proposed 18-foot light pole in the middle

[3:51:21] of the structure.

[3:51:24] As I mentioned, parking during construction as a condition of approval.

[3:51:29] Orange Cross Memorial has an agreement with living water's church that's directly across

[3:51:35] the street that has 111 parking spaces that they could accommodate construction work

[3:51:40] of parking and for employee parking during this time because the foster lot will be demolished

[3:51:48] and so that would be taking away to an 31 parking spaces during this time. Orange Cross Memorial

[3:51:54] has already begun running a shuttle service from their office buildings to the north of us here

[3:52:00] at the 1700 Brookhurst Street and their three office buildings with sufficient parking over there

[3:52:08] with three shuttles running at different times a day starting at 5.30 a.m. to shuttle employees over to

[3:52:15] the hospital during the construction phase.

[3:52:20] So with that staff recommends the city council adopt a

[3:52:24] resolution, improving mitigated negative declaration and mitigation, monitoring and reporting program,

[3:52:31] and introducing ordinance and approved code amendment 2401 to amend the Orange Coast

[3:52:36] Medical Center specific plan to allow for the development of the free standing parking

[3:52:41] structure and planning areas three of the specific plan. And that concludes my report.

[3:52:46] The applicant is here and I'm available for any questions.

[3:52:49] Thank you, Matt. I think what we should do is move into the public caring. I'm seeing at least

[3:52:54] twenty speakers. Yeah, okay. So I'm going to open the public hearing.

[3:53:05] First public speaker,

[3:53:07] Gary Jones.

[3:53:18] Would you like the applicant to speak?

[3:53:22] First or? Yeah, okay. That would be great.

[3:53:26] That would be good. Please approach the podium.

[3:53:31] I'm trying a good slide.

[3:53:35] Go to a sit-on.

[3:53:43] Good evening, Mayor Kunine and members of the council. My name is Emily Randall and I have the

[3:53:49] to serve as the Chief Executive Officer of Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center.

[3:53:55] Thank you for providing me with the opportunity to speak before you tonight

[3:53:59] about this critical project for the Fountain Valley Community and those we serve.

[3:54:05] Memorial Care Orange Coast Medical Center is honored to provide valuable health services to Fountain Valley

[3:54:10] and the surrounding community.

[3:54:11] Our 30 year legacy of clinical excellence is built on a foundation of trust, expertise, and patient-centered care.

[3:54:19] We have always believed that a great hospital should also be a good neighbor.

[3:54:24] This means addressing the needs of the people we care for inside our medical facilities

[3:54:28] while respecting the needs of the surrounding community as well.

[3:54:32] Our success and continued demand for services have created a parking shorter shortage that

[3:54:37] is stressful for those who are coming to seek care for family members or for family members

[3:54:42] visiting a loved one.

[3:54:43] The lack of available parking has also created issues for neighbors when visitors and staff are forced to find parking off campus.

[3:54:53] Despite offering free valet services, adding additional valet stations and other parking management strategies, the demand for parking far exceeds available spaces.

[3:55:04] This is supported by the parking demand study, the city parking requirements and the daily experience of patients and visitors circling and circling.

[3:55:13] campus in search of a place to park.

[3:55:16] When we began planning this parking structure, we started by reaching out to our neighbors.

[3:55:22] Over the past two years, we've worked collaboratively with the city and the community and

[3:55:27] the project has evolved in response to that input.

[3:55:31] These efforts are reflected in the more than 500 letters of support submitted to the planning

[3:55:36] commission by residents and stakeholders who recognize the need for this project.

[3:55:43] Early in the process, we made the decision to dedicate the parking structure for staff and physicians with access restricted through a key card badge system.

[3:55:52] This approach was intentional for two reasons.

[3:55:55] First, it allows patients and visitors to park closer to the medical offices and facilities improving convenience during what can often be a stressful time.

[3:56:04] Second, by limiting the structure to employees, we can better manage operations, reduce

[3:56:09] constant and in-out traffic, and ensure accountability, since all users are identified

[3:56:14] and identifiable through their access batch.

[3:56:18] It's also important to note that this project is not introduced any new services or programs

[3:56:23] for the OCMC Hospital campus, and therefore will not generate any new trips.

[3:56:29] The city's parking codes require 1585 spaces for the existing uses.

[3:56:35] However, that calculation does not account for the operational realities of running a hospital 24-7.

[3:56:45] Case in point is our shift overlap.

[3:56:47] So the majority of our employees are nurses who work 12-hour shifts.

[3:56:53] The day shift comes in at 7am and goes to their unit, but they can't start their work until they've received report from the outgoing shift.

[3:57:07] So, the the day shift comes in, the night shift gives report, the hand off about, about all the patients that they've taken care of, and then the night shift leaves.

[3:57:19] So, for at least 30 minutes and sometimes longer there is double the nurses on our parking, in our parking lot.

[3:57:29] just don't have enough space with what the city parking codes require to do that shift

[3:57:36] hand-off. So, definitely creates temporary peaks in our parking demand. To address

[3:57:45] these real conditions, the proposed structure includes approximately 300 spaces above the minimum

[3:57:51] code requirement. These spaces are not for growth in services, but to accommodate those existing

[3:57:57] operational needs.

[3:58:02] Finally, this project fulfills both the city's requirements and the

[3:58:05] commitment that we made when the patient care pavilion was approved back in 2007. Through

[3:58:11] two community open houses and countless meetings with the surrounding neighbors, we made

[3:58:15] significant modifications based on the feedback and ideas that were shared through these

[3:58:20] conversations and meetings. The modifications include, as I mentioned earlier, restricting

[3:58:26] the structure to staff, physician, and volunteer parking only with badge-controlled access.

[3:58:32] Lowering the structure by placing one floor below grade to reduce the overall height, removing

[3:58:38] a planned green belt walkway along the southern part of the property to reduce the opportunity

[3:58:45] for folks to set up any type of lounging, adding a pedestrian bridge so that staff, physicians,

[3:58:54] and volunteers could safely cost foster without interfering with vehicular traffic that has

[3:59:00] been a long-standing problem that this is really the only way that we can fix.

[3:59:05] Expanding the entry to accommodate approximately 23 vehicles with two lanes for stacking

[3:59:10] to ensure traffic will not back up on foster.

[3:59:14] We enhance the landscaping along the west and southern borders to provide a stronger green

[3:59:19] buffer.

[3:59:19] We've improved the circulation and convenience for patients by having staff use one designated

[3:59:26] area for parking and patients and visitors using the existing parking structure and nearby

[3:59:32] close-up surface parking areas.

[3:59:36] And we directed, we're directing the ex-sing traffic to Tauber to improve the ingress and egress

[3:59:43] without affecting the neighborhood streets.

[3:59:46] In addition, continued dialogue with residents led to further refinements.

[3:59:51] We increased the setbacks along the west edge by terracing or stair stepping that Matt

[3:59:56] discussed the upper levels to reduce perceived height, bulk, and

[4:00:00] And shading impacts on the neighboring residences. We eliminated the parking facing the west edge at upper levels to improve privacy for adjacent residences.

[4:00:11] We expanded the landscape buffer along the west edge. We shifted the staircase along the northwest corner of the parking structure to ensure privacy for adjacent residences.

[4:00:22] And we added a Choker Curb and signage at the parking structure entrance on Foster to prohibit left turns into the parking structure.

[4:00:32] These refinements reflect our commitment.

[4:00:36] I think that's the right slide that I'm showing you. Sorry. We won't worry about it.

[4:00:42] These refinements reflect our commitment to listening and responding to community input that collaborative approach continue during the planning commissions review of the project.

[4:00:52] On April 22nd, we presented the project to the Planning Commission, which voted unanimously to recommend approval.

[4:01:00] During its discussion, commissioners offered several recommendations related to rooftop roof deck, lighting, signage, site access and pedestrian safety.

[4:01:09] We appreciated that input, and in response shared two alternative roof deck lighting plans.

[4:01:14] No idling, signage concepts, a license plate, reader system, design to facilitate efficient employee access into the structure and enhance pedestrian crossing features and signage at the Talbot Avenue exit.

[4:01:29] We are pleased to continue working with the city staff to evaluate these recommendations and incorporate appropriate refinements into the project.

[4:01:36] The last slide I was going to show was all of our staff who are many of them behind me and who are behind this project.

[4:01:49] They know it's what the city or you're going to get me to where I need to be.

[4:01:56] Okay, that's the picture.

[4:01:58] Wait, stop.

[4:02:00] Don't touch it.

[4:02:04] Okay, there we are, that many of the staff that care for patients every day are pictured

[4:02:10] in this picture because regardless of facilities, parking structures, technology, it all

[4:02:18] comes down to people and the people that take care of this community are pictured in this

[4:02:23] picture and are here with me tonight.

[4:02:25] This project is critical to meeting the parking needs of our existing medical campus, honoring

[4:02:29] the commitments we've made to the community and ensuring that we can continue providing outstanding

[4:02:35] health services to Vountain Valley.

[4:02:37] At the end of the day, our goal is simple to provide exceptional care while also being good

[4:02:43] neighbors.

[4:02:44] The project helps us achieve both.

[4:02:46] Thank you for your time.

[4:02:56] Thank you so much.

[4:02:58] There's been a request to actually take a break, maybe about five minutes, recess before

[4:03:02] public speaking, for open the public hearing.

[4:03:05] So let's take a five-minute recess to be back at 9.25.

[4:03:09] Thank you.

[4:13:51] Take their seats.

[4:13:58] As a reminder, we are on item 10.

[4:14:09] We'll actually do that.

[4:14:11] So we are now at the public hearing stage.

[4:14:16] All right.

[4:14:16] I'll open the public hearing.

[4:14:19] Are there any requests to speak?

[4:14:21] Just a couple.

[4:14:22] Just a couple.

[4:14:24] First speaker, Gary Jones.

[4:14:30] Okay.

[4:14:31] next speaker would be Tamwin.

[4:14:38] Welcome. Hello, good evening, Americanine,

[4:14:42] Vice Mayor Harper, council members, buoy, grandads, consenting. My name is Tamwin. I'm a

[4:14:48] fountain valley resident, local business owner. Also we're in the head of host family here in

[4:14:54] fountain valley for Kiko. And very proud to be the incoming Vice Chair for this hospital.

[4:15:01] I'm here to tonight, respectfully ask for your approval of the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure project.

[4:15:08] This hospital is much more than if this hospital is a non-profit institution that served this community for more than 30 years,

[4:15:16] providing exceptional health care while continually giving back to the residents of Fountain Valley and our surrounding communities.

[4:15:21] It's commitment that commitment service to is one of the reasons why I first joined this

[4:15:26] hospital's community benefit oversight community as volunteer before later serving on

[4:15:31] its board of directors.

[4:15:34] Mission of the hospital is simple, but profound.

[4:15:38] It ensures access to health care.

[4:15:40] That means the emergency care when seconds matter means outpatient inpatient services when

[4:15:45] families need it need support.

[4:15:47] It means preventive screenings, physical therapy, maternal health services, countless other programs that help people live healthier and happier lives.

[4:15:56] For me, this is not just professional, it's also very personal.

[4:16:00] My mother receives care here at Orange Coast Medical Center.

[4:16:05] My wife Christine worked there as a pharmacist.

[4:16:08] Our three children were all born there.

[4:16:11] Earlier this year my uncle spent his final moments in last breath.

[4:16:15] surrounded by very compassionate caregivers at this hospital.

[4:16:20] Like so many families in our community,

[4:16:22] my family's experience both the joyful beginnings,

[4:16:24] as well as difficult goodbyes that happen within this hospital.

[4:16:28] At 30-year legacy of clinical excellence

[4:16:30] built on trust, expertise, compassion, and patient-centered care,

[4:16:35] which is the best healthcare professionals

[4:16:37] and doctors, nurses, and service staff, there's amazing.

[4:16:41] As a board member, I also have a responsibility

[4:16:43] to help ensure health care remains accessible, not only just for our

[4:16:46] family residents, but our patients and families of travel here every day

[4:16:49] from our neighboring communities that seek care here. I also want to recognize the

[4:16:54] person who presented earlier, Emily Randall. She's a recently appointed CEO of Orange

[4:17:01] Coast Medical Center. Emily is an exceptional leader. You just like her predecessor,

[4:17:06] Marcia Manker, who they genuinely care about our community. This community for years,

[4:17:11] They've worked closely with city staff, neighbors, community members, and stakeholders to listen to concerns and address them thoughtfully and respectfully.

[4:17:22] Emily is shown up for this community. I've got to observe that for myself.

[4:17:27] Her commitment reflected in more than the 500 letters of support submitted by a resident's patients, seniors, physicians, nurses, and employees who understand the importance of this project.

[4:17:39] She listened. The hospital listens in the project is evolved to what we got today.

[4:17:45] Damn. I'm sorry. Okay, I'll take you. Well, thank you for your time, leadership, and your consideration, and approval of this project.

[4:17:53] Thank you.

[4:17:54] Come along.

[4:18:08] Good evening, Mayor Queen, Vice Mayor Harper, City Council.

[4:18:13] Thank you for the opportunity to voice my support for the parking structure at Orange Coast Medical Center.

[4:18:21] Most of you know me for those who don't.

[4:18:24] I am Linda Balani's husband, Prem Balani.

[4:18:29] I'm proud to live in Fountain Valley with my wife for over 30 years.

[4:18:33] We are also active in our community and serve as volunteers with various organization in Fountain Valley and other communities.

[4:18:42] We live next to the hospital campus on BirdCourt in the Mariposa community and adjacent to the proposed parking structure.

[4:18:53] It is true this city is a nice place to live to have access to excellent health care, schools,

[4:19:01] and the city staff that responds to the needs of its residents.

[4:19:05] Like a good community partner, my neighbor Orange Coast Medical Center has been delivering

[4:19:11] on their promise to provide excellent healthcare.

[4:19:15] The hospital and its staff have taken care of me and my family over the years.

[4:19:20] I have seen firsthand how the team of healthcare professionals led by compassion and deliver

[4:19:27] quality medical care.

[4:19:29] I recently went through a medical issue which required me and my wife to go to the facility

[4:19:35] 3 times a week along with numerous doctor appointments over span of 6 months.

[4:19:41] My dad also spent his last few days at the hospital.

[4:19:46] While I live in walking distance of the hospital, I was able to walk to most of my appointments.

[4:19:52] Others in my group, or visiting the hospital, or to the doctor's appointments, are not

[4:20:03] times a week, and if you have been in that position, you know how difficult it is.

[4:20:09] The hospital leadership team has been thoughtful and work closely with the found value

[4:20:14] residents and neighbors of the hospital to listen and continue to make adjustments to

[4:20:20] the parking structure, design, to address their concerns around landscaping, easements,

[4:20:26] security, shadows, noise, and traffic.

[4:20:32] Today I ask you to approve the Orange Coast Medical Center

[4:20:34] Parking Structure to approve access to health services

[4:20:38] for patients, caregivers, residents, and hospital staff.

[4:20:44] Thank you for your time.

[4:20:51] Cueber Wong?

[4:20:56] Welcome.

[4:20:59] Good evening.

[4:21:00] Mayor of Kenan, Vice Mayor Harper, and members of the City Council.

[4:21:04] Thank you for this opportunity to share my support for the Orange County Orange Coast Medical Center Parking Structure.

[4:21:10] My name is Dr. Hubert Wong. I'm the chair of the Emergency Department at Orange Coast Medical Center.

[4:21:17] And I've had the privilege of serving the community caring for this community for over 20 years.

[4:21:24] I want to particularly thank the city for their support for the expansion of our emergency department back in 2019,

[4:21:31] right in the nick of time before the COVID pandemic kit.

[4:21:35] It provided us critical capacity to really be able to care for this community.

[4:21:40] And in the, you know, just a few years since, it's just,

[4:21:44] I just find it absolutely remarkable that we now serve over 50,000 patients a year

[4:21:50] through our emergency department.

[4:21:52] Our emergency department, of course, is open, you know, 24-7.

[4:21:56] And in the emergency department, we are seeing patients that sometimes end up being

[4:22:01] charts sometimes being sometimes they're admitted. And regardless, they have concerned

[4:22:06] family, friends, caregivers that want to attend to them. And one of the biggest challenges

[4:22:13] that we hear constantly is how they're circling around the parking lot, trying to find

[4:22:17] parking, trying to get to their loved one, trying to get to the bedside. For us, as providers,

[4:22:23] it's especially vital that we see family and friends and caregivers there because sometimes they

[4:22:30] provide absolutely critical information.

[4:22:31] And we see these people in some of their most vulnerable and stressful moments.

[4:22:36] And so this parking structure really will go a long way to serving the needs of the community

[4:22:42] to allow patients to be able to park in the existing parking structure and be able to get

[4:22:47] to where they need to go quickly.

[4:22:48] And at the same time for staff and for physicians and nurses really to be able to get where

[4:22:54] they need to go quickly.

[4:22:55] And so, you know, I do ask for your support for this parking structure, and I want to thank you for your time.

[4:23:10] James Callahan.

[4:23:16] Welcome.

[4:23:20] Good evening, Mayor, and City Council.

[4:23:22] Thank you for allowing me to voice my support for the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure proposal.

[4:23:29] My name is Jim Callahan.

[4:23:30] I'm a proud to say that my family is called Found Valley.

[4:23:33] It's home for 32 years.

[4:23:35] As the sign says, behind you, it is truly a nice place to live.

[4:23:41] One of the essential needs for any city is readily available health care.

[4:23:46] Orange Coast Medical Center and its team of doctors and nurses and staff provide valuable

[4:23:50] health services to our city and the surrounding community.

[4:23:55] The hospital's mission is to improve the health and wellbeing of individuals, families, and

[4:23:59] the community.

[4:24:01] I know this to be true as my late wife Cindy was the former director for the breast

[4:24:05] and imaging at the hospital.

[4:24:08] Cindy's biggest concern was that patients were treated with dignity and respect in their patient care experience.

[4:24:16] Cindy wanted every patient and visitor to have as positive experience as possible when visiting the hospital and what often is a stressful time.

[4:24:26] When a patient is given an unfortunate diagnosis of cancer, as was in the case for my late wife,

[4:24:32] It is a frightening and stressful time for the patient as well as the patient's family members.

[4:24:39] Once diagnosed, these patients are cared for by a high-quality team of oncologists that design and prescribe a treatment plan that is then administered at the hospital.

[4:24:49] These treatment plans require frequent patient visits to the hospital accompanying by family or friends.

[4:24:56] Difficult to be finding parking during ease of appointments, create much-own-needed stress

[4:25:02] on this already daunting cancer journey.

[4:25:04] I can attest to that.

[4:25:07] As this is, I experienced this stress firsthand.

[4:25:13] It's imperative to find a solution to the parking shortage at Orange Coast Memorial Medical

[4:25:17] Center.

[4:25:18] This proposal before you today addresses the needs of the hospital's patients, employees,

[4:25:23] and our community.

[4:25:25] Orange Coast Medical Center's legacy of clinical excellence is built on a foundation of trust, expertise, and patient-centric care.

[4:25:35] Part of this care should include safe and readily available parking.

[4:25:40] I implore this city council to approve the parking structure proposal and provide the much-needed solution to this parking problem.

[4:25:49] Passing this proposal will make Fountain Valley a nicer place to live.

[4:25:53] Thank you.

[4:26:01] Brian Jenavise.

[4:26:13] Good evening.

[4:26:13] Thank you.

[4:26:13] Yeah.

[4:26:14] I think last time up here was actually light outside.

[4:26:16] I was up here before.

[4:26:18] So thank you, Mayor Canine, Vice Mayor Harper, and a steam city council and a city staff.

[4:26:25] My name is Brian Jenavise.

[4:26:27] One time resident and business constituent of the city here and also a huge volunteer

[4:26:35] here in the city.

[4:26:37] So, you guys remember, remember, FHP used to be here, most of you guys have probably been around that long.

[4:26:42] So, that was what originally was there, and Orange Coast medical took it over and made it into what it is today,

[4:26:49] which is a trusted community partner that gives back their nonprofit that does so much great work here in the city,

[4:26:55] and they did such a great job organizing to bring all of us out here tonight, and I feel very flattered, I was asked to come out to speak tonight.

[4:27:02] But I think, you know, the main point is it's one of those things where this, this is much needed and our residents are getting older.

[4:27:09] We have, we're going to have a lot of new residents coming in too. My friend just had a baby, more or less, so we got a lot that happening.

[4:27:17] And the current situation, it's a health and safety issue.

[4:27:20] So the parking situation and all that, that needs to be corrected because we don't want people to have to worry about coming to access the facility and the time of the crisis that they're in already.

[4:27:31] So, you know, Matt Jenkins has done a lot of work on this project.

[4:27:34] There you don't pay enough attention to our city staff.

[4:27:36] Sometimes it's not all the hard work they do, and they get a big, big, big, big

[4:27:39] money to do these reports and bring recommendations back to you guys to vote.

[4:27:45] So, on behalf of them, I'd say, right here, staff's requesting city council

[4:27:49] approval, turn to number one, to adopt a solution of proving to mitigate a negative

[4:27:52] declaration, blah, blah, blah, blah, you guys know what I'm going to say?

[4:27:56] So request you guys approve this from Memorial Care and for the rest of the community.

[4:28:02] Thank you.

[4:28:10] Charlene Freeman,

[4:28:17] welcome.

[4:28:18] Thank you and good evening.

[4:28:20] I appreciate the opportunity to voice my support for the parking structure at Memorial Care

[4:28:25] Orange Coast Medical Center.

[4:28:27] My name is Charlene Freeman and I'm the Director of Patient Relations.

[4:28:30] I've worked for our hospital for over 36 years.

[4:28:33] So, in 1990, when I did start as he just mentioned, my tenure began at FHP Hospital, which was a four-profit hospital, and at that time we had restricted access to only FHP members, and in 1996 when Memorial Care acquired FHP, we became that non-profit hospital opening the opportunity to care for our community.

[4:28:57] So my role is to help our patients navigate their care at the hospital, which is quite a journey.

[4:29:05] And my team makes sure that patients and their caregivers have a plan access to all the necessary additional health services to make a full recovery.

[4:29:14] And as is mentioned, many of our patients have treatments way beyond their hospitalization with the radiation or chemotherapy or physical therapy.

[4:29:22] And as a result, our patients and family members

[4:29:25] come to our hospital campus multiple times

[4:29:28] and parking is always an issue.

[4:29:31] So despite offering the free valet parking,

[4:29:33] which we do and implementing other parking management

[4:29:36] strategies, the demand for parking

[4:29:39] far exceeds the available spaces that we have.

[4:29:42] Over the years, we definitely have tried to be creative

[4:29:45] and attempted many parking solutions

[4:29:48] to include partnering with my sister,

[4:29:51] the pastor of living waters, Dean Aquaria, across the street from the hospital, so that

[4:29:56] the additional employees could park there during the work week.

[4:30:00] Still again, we do not have enough parking spots for our patients and the employees. So our success and the

[4:30:06] high demand for healthcare services have created a parking shortage that can be stressful as people

[4:30:12] have mentioned for those who come to our campus for medical care and for their loved ones as well

[4:30:17] as the staff that are compassionately caring for them. So please approve this project from a

[4:30:22] memorial care to continue to provide the best care possible. And I respectfully thank you for your time

[4:30:28] consideration.

[4:30:36] Mitchell Sue Gomez.

[4:30:42] Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for the excuse me. Thank you for

[4:30:47] this opportunity to speak and support of the parking structure. My name is Mitchell Tudor Dome.

[4:30:52] I am an outpatient physical therapist for Orange Coast Medical Center. I have been proudly and happily

[4:30:59] employed at Orange Coast for the past 15 years. My wife and I and soon to be two-year-old daughter

[4:31:04] are also proud and happy residents of Fallen Valley.

[4:31:08] We're about us here was that of course the proximity to work,

[4:31:11] but also the city spirit and pride, the safety, the schools, and the health care.

[4:31:16] Fallen Valley has certainly exceeded that of a nice place to live.

[4:31:21] Two months into my wife's pregnancy, she developed double vision.

[4:31:25] Under the care of at an end in your medical, it was discovered she had a brain tumor.

[4:31:30] It was a benign brain tumor, but this set forth a journey that was stressful.

[4:31:34] uncertain, challenging, and emotional.

[4:31:39] Medicine started on the day we called our doctor.

[4:31:42] It continued through the multitude of tests and appointments.

[4:31:45] Medicine was the day of surgery to remove this tumor.

[4:31:48] And I remember driving to the surgery center and being the longest car ride of my life.

[4:31:53] And I remember talking, but I don't remember thinking we talked about.

[4:31:57] Medicine was the check-in, the pre-op, the surgery, the waiting, the recovery,

[4:32:02] and mother returning home to her two-month-old daughter. Medicine was the

[4:32:06] fallable appointments to tests and culminated with my wife being able to

[4:32:10] ring the bell after two rounds of radiation. It is hard to convince anyone

[4:32:15] that a parking structure is as important as this that what my wife went through

[4:32:20] or a cardiac procedure, blood and fusion, a check-up for the flu or the birth of a

[4:32:26] child, but medicine is the whole experience from beginning of the journey the healing

[4:32:30] and the recovery.

[4:32:32] I'm here to support my patients in physical therapy

[4:32:35] who are commonly seen two to three times a week

[4:32:37] for multiple weeks to address their functional difficulties

[4:32:40] in discomfort.

[4:32:42] Our patients were Parkinson's disease,

[4:32:45] vertical, dizziness, balance deficits,

[4:32:50] post-sturgical joint or spine rehabilitation,

[4:32:53] speech, memory, and cognitive decline,

[4:32:55] lymphedema from cancer recovery.

[4:32:57] Many of which who have expressed

[4:32:59] is the appointment with the parking or had to arrive much earlier than expected, much earlier

[4:33:05] than scheduled to find a parking space. I'm here to support the patients of Orange Coast

[4:33:10] and their family members and friends so that they can experience a positive experience as

[4:33:16] possible in what is stressful, uncertain, and challenging from the beginning of the journey,

[4:33:22] the healing, and the recovery. Thank you very much.

[4:33:33] Jessica Kwan.

[4:33:38] part to go after that one, but thank you. Mayor Kenyenne and as a council member, thank you for the opportunity to share my support for the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure.

[4:33:51] I'm here today as a very proud found valley resident and vice president for population health and memorial care.

[4:33:58] From newborns to seniors and including my parents, my children, everyone in between Orange Coast has been providing exceptional care

[4:34:06] you've heard to our community for over 30 years. My family, my neighbors, my friends,

[4:34:13] often share with me how fortunate we are to have this service, this excellent health care

[4:34:18] right in our community at Memorial Care. However, I know personally, ease of access is a major issue.

[4:34:26] My parents, my father, who's undergoing four years now of chemotherapy, circle the lot,

[4:34:32] every single time we go there. My mom with her cardiac issues circle the lot every time we go over there.

[4:34:39] This need for parking is no secret and when the city approved the specific plan it required

[4:34:45] construction for a parking structure at the Orange Coast campus. We're at a crossroads now with

[4:34:52] patients like my parents, like my children, are now telling doctors and nurses they cannot deal with

[4:34:57] stress of parking. And in some cases we have seen them forego care or try to find other hospitals

[4:35:03] for timely care, which is further from their homes. This is the reason we're here today

[4:35:09] and we need approval for this critical parking structure. This hospital is dedicated to the wellness

[4:35:14] of our community, always looking for ways to improve access to care. And as a resident I ask you

[4:35:23] not wait any longer, but to approve the parking structure. So we can make sure we continue to

[4:35:29] provide that access. Thank you.

[4:35:38] Peter Swanson.

[4:35:45] Welcome. Thank you. Good evening Mayor,

[4:35:51] Vice Mayor, and City Council members. My name is Peter Swanson, and I'm here to tell you that Orange

[4:35:56] Coast Memorial Care is not a nice place to park.

[4:36:02] I'm here to offer my strong support for the proposed

[4:36:05] parking structure at the corner of Taliburton Foster, I think we've heard a lot of the stories

[4:36:10] about people driving around, but I think one of the other things that hasn't come up is all

[4:36:16] the different nooks and crannies people find a park across the streets and on residential

[4:36:21] streets become safety issues as people are crossing at not at lights and whatnot.

[4:36:30] Anyhow, my wife and I have been residents of Fountain Valley for 35 years.

[4:36:35] We bought our starter home in Stardust, and we're still there.

[4:36:39] I don't think I can afford ever to sell it.

[4:36:42] Our family has been coming to Memorial Care at an Edendure Medical Group for more than three

[4:36:46] decades.

[4:36:50] Everyone has mentioned our motto about Fountain Valley being a nice place to live.

[4:36:54] And I live today, my story today is because of the health care provided by the doctors and

[4:36:59] nurses at Memorial Care.

[4:37:01] Three years ago, my watch told me I was at A-Fib, and I should go get attention quickly after

[4:37:08] a battery attests.

[4:37:10] The doctors did confirm the regular heart beat, but also told me I needed to have open heart

[4:37:14] surgery in the next two weeks.

[4:37:17] That led to a 15 month, I won't say or deal, but a journey with two surgeries, four

[4:37:24] outpatient procedures for hospital stays, totaling 19 days, 15 nights, dozen cardiology appointments,

[4:37:32] 36 cardiac rehab sessions, the nursery rhyme that says you can't put Humpty Dumpty

[4:37:38] back together again as wrong, because here I stand. My wife and I did come to the hospital

[4:37:44] over 93 times, we calculated and we can say that parking is a problem.

[4:37:53] I do want to say

[4:37:54] that now, now that my health is strong, I've been blessed with a super power by the hospital where

[4:38:01] I get to be a volunteer. I've been doing that for two years. I'm blessed to work in the pre and post-op

[4:38:06] department for cardiology. I get to team with all the surgeons, doctors, and nurses that did the

[4:38:13] work on me, the last two to three years. Twice a week, I arrive at 6.30 in the morning to

[4:38:19] to sit with patients and their loved ones to tell them that they can get through the open

[4:38:24] heart surgery and everyone goes into it with a little bit more optimism.

[4:38:29] The only complaint I ever get in the hospital as I escort to the three dozen patients in

[4:38:34] every shift I do is about the parking.

[4:38:37] It's never about the food, it's just the parking.

[4:38:40] So as everyone else has said today, let's approve this parking structure and fix this problem.

[4:38:46] Thank you.

[4:38:53] Courtney Harris.

[4:39:01] Welcome. Thank you. It's going to be hard to follow my friend Peter.

[4:39:05] Hi. Mayor, vice mayor and city council members. I'm here to support the hospital parking

[4:39:12] structure. My name is Courtney Harris. I'm a nurse and director of cardiovascular services

[4:39:16] at Orange Coast Medical Center. I have the privilege of leading the Orange Coast Medical Center

[4:39:21] as hard institute. Both men and women may experience heart conditions throughout their lives. It's

[4:39:27] the leading cause of death in the United States.

[4:39:32] We at Orange Coast Medical Center are here to help the patients who suffer from heart disease

[4:39:36] with our team of cardiologists, surgeons, nursing staff, and our cardiac rehab team.

[4:39:42] After cardiac event requiring surgery or invasive procedure,

[4:39:46] there are necessary therapies to support the patient to full recovery,

[4:39:51] which may mean cardiac rehab, pulmonary rehab, or physical therapy.

[4:39:55] Our patients receiving life-changing care of cardiac rehab will visit our facility up to 36

[4:40:01] times for cardiac rehab exercise sessions.

[4:40:05] I've seen firsthand many patients who are coming into the facility struggling with physical

[4:40:11] limitations caused by their heart conditions, coming into cardiac rehab with an undue amount

[4:40:16] of stress and physical strain, these patients of circled the facility multiple times looking

[4:40:22] for parking space.

[4:40:24] They finally sometimes release their car to a valet,

[4:40:26] which they don't like to do, even though it's free.

[4:40:29] They still don't like it.

[4:40:30] I don't blame them, or they park in a boon docks,

[4:40:34] and hastily walk to their appointments

[4:40:36] hoping to not be late.

[4:40:38] At that point, they're so frustrated that the blood pressure

[4:40:40] is through the roof, and sometimes they're even out of breath

[4:40:45] from rushing to make it to their appointment.

[4:40:48] This type of physical stress is far from ideal

[4:40:50] for this patient population, placing them at risk for worsening conditions.

[4:40:56] And these conditions that they're therefore working so hard to improve.

[4:41:02] Our patients deserve to be able to come to our hospital campus, receive the care

[4:41:07] that they require without any undue stress.

[4:41:10] I believe finding a parking place should not be on their list of worries.

[4:41:15] With that said, I have the privilege of meeting our neighbors living in the orange, living near orange coast

[4:41:22] during the 2025 and 26 open house events to give community members opportunities to see the plans on the parking structure

[4:41:30] and provide feedback.

[4:41:33] As you can see and have seen, Memorial Care is updated as the design and plans to address the feedback received.

[4:41:40] I'm here today asking you to please approve the parking project for memorial care patients and for our staff.

[4:41:48] Thank you.

[4:41:55] Katie, you were let?

[4:42:02] Thank you.

[4:42:03] Good evening members of the City Council.

[4:42:05] Thank you for taking the time to meet with all of us this evening.

[4:42:08] My name is Katie Roulette.

[4:42:09] I'm the Director of Social Services, EBS, and Emergency Management and Oracle's Medical Center.

[4:42:15] And I've also had the privilege of being a patient there.

[4:42:17] I think they kind of put us heart people together because I'm going to share an experience regarding the importance

[4:42:21] of parking while visiting members in the hospital.

[4:42:25] My son was born with a rare heart defect, which is required to open heart surgeries to date.

[4:42:31] As Courtney mentioned, it requires a lot of visits to the hospital and unfortunately hospitals

[4:42:36] in Orange County can accommodate those appointments and what it entails so we have to go

[4:42:41] up to LA.

[4:42:43] We enjoy our beautiful drive at LA multiple times a year, but following that drive in LA traffic

[4:42:49] we're faced with parking issues there as well.

[4:42:53] As silly as it sounds, finding a parking spot without having to circle for an extended period of time,

[4:42:58] impacts my strength as a mom to go into those appointments with my son.

[4:43:01] If we find a spot right away, Alex and I always joke that everything else that we are going to experience

[4:43:06] in here is going to be a piece of cake.

[4:43:10] It's not, it's still very difficult, but when I find parking, I can go in there with a little bit more support for him.

[4:43:15] This parking structure will impact so many other family members, such as myself, with everything else there about to experience parking should not be a stressor.

[4:43:24] As I mentioned, I'm the director of social work at my hospital. My social workers are often at times the people.

[4:43:31] The first staff members who greet our families to deliver difficult news. Many times they are on the phone with family members who are trying to get into the hospital to say their final goodbye.

[4:43:40] It's said in all of us at Orange Coast that the parking lot and parking can be a barrier to them being able to see these device in person.

[4:43:50] This parking structure will not only allow our patients the ability to park stress-free, it will allow our staff to park stress-free as well.

[4:43:58] Where we can focus on what is important, most, which is providing great care and exceptional care to our patients.

[4:44:04] Most of the time as you've heard our loved ones, and my ask of you today is to approve the parking structure for Orange Coast Medical Center, so we can continue to provide exceptional care from members of our community. Thank you.

[4:44:22] Up next is Beth Hamilton on Zoom.

[4:44:31] Beth.

[4:44:42] Beth, whatever you're speaking into, we can't hear.

[4:45:11] Hello. Hello. Thank you, everybody, for such a long evening. My name is Lillin Yao. I am a long time resident felt valley. My parents moved here when I was 10. I am an owner over in the Mariposa townhouse area.

[4:45:26] And I can assure you that I am in full agreement that Orange Coast Memorial needs parking.

[4:45:35] What I'm a little bit confused about is back in 2007 when the city approved the patient pavilion.

[4:45:44] The Orange Cosmo Royal had made a commitment to use the property off of Brookerson Law

[4:45:51] Alameda over behind City Bank for employee parking.

[4:45:56] If they're going to use that as employee parking during construction so that their employees

[4:46:02] can park there so that visitors can still park over at Orange Cosmo Royal, what I'd really

[4:46:07] like to see is for them to do it now.

[4:46:10] If parking is such an issue today, why not start implementing that now?

[4:46:16] If that works and alleviates parking for all the visitors, then why not make that permanent?

[4:46:23] And then, if it's a cost issue, how much is it going to cost to put up a parking structure?

[4:46:29] As a person that lives in the neighborhood, I am not so sure that I want to drive into my neighborhood with this massive building

[4:46:39] at the entrance of a residential neighborhood.

[4:46:44] The Hyundai facility off over by Talbert and the 405 freeway.

[4:46:49] It's a massive structure.

[4:46:51] Granted, the parking structure is not going to be as big,

[4:46:54] but it's set back significantly.

[4:46:57] And so that's just one of my curiosity is that

[4:47:02] that facility, the parking lot over there

[4:47:05] has never been utilized.

[4:47:06] I go to city bank often in the parking lot empty. If we moved all the employee parking

[4:47:11] there today, then visitors can park easily over at Orange Coast Memorial. So I would just throw

[4:47:18] that out there for your consideration. Let me see what my notes.

[4:47:26] Oh, that's right. I worked

[4:47:29] at Long Beach Memorial for two plus decades. I also worked at Long Beach VA Medical Center.

[4:47:35] Both of my parents had cancer, I had to go to USC, USC hospital,

[4:47:42] Holocaust hospital, City of Hope, UC San Diego, all the various large institutions in the area.

[4:47:51] And parking was at least a 10-minute walk.

[4:47:54] Even if I was a visitor, I still had to walk at least 10 minutes.

[4:47:59] As an employee, those two campuses were significant, such that it was a 10-minute walk,

[4:48:04] 15-minute walk depending on where my station was and what time I got there.

[4:48:10] So the commute from the existing property that is not being utilized,

[4:48:17] they're not supposed to ask.

[4:48:20] Thank you very much.

[4:48:22] Megan Taylor.

[4:48:33] Welcome.

[4:48:34] Thank you.

[4:48:35] Good evening, Mayor.

[4:48:36] Vice Mayor and City Council members.

[4:48:37] My name is Megan Taylor and I live on lemon street.

[4:48:41] 18 feet from the proposed structure.

[4:48:43] My family has lived in this home for nearly 50 years.

[4:48:48] First, I want to thank Memorial Care the staff and the Planning Commission for listening.

[4:48:52] We do appreciate the rose visions that have been made.

[4:48:55] However, there are still several concerns that remain unresolved.

[4:49:00] First, and foremost, is our privacy.

[4:49:04] The structure still allows views into established residential properties from multiple levels.

[4:49:10] This issue is not whether someone intends to look in our yard.

[4:49:16] The issue is that the design creates the opportunity for thousands of people each week, 24 hours a day, to do so.

[4:49:25] While the landscaping may screen the portions over time,

[4:49:29] the residents should not lose a reasonable expectation of privacy in their backyards and their home,

[4:49:35] because a multi-level structure is built directly behind them.

[4:49:39] I understand that there's a need for ventilation, but I struggle that this idea is the idea is that ventilation and privacy are mutually exclusive.

[4:49:51] Every day we see louverd screens used around rooftop equipment that allows airflow while blocking views.

[4:49:58] We're simply asking that these designs be considered to give our families beside the structure some privacy.

[4:50:05] This would translate to fixed horizontal lovers pointing upward between levels two and three,

[4:50:11] and then extending the parapet wall on three and four to go up at least five feet.

[4:50:21] Finally, Memorial Cares are cresting an amendment to their precise plan 581 with the code amendment 24.24-1.

[4:50:29] That would increase the allowable building height.

[4:50:32] Because this city is being asked to modify this existing development standard,

[4:50:37] I'm respectfully asking that the council consider whether this additional height should be granted

[4:50:43] immediately adjacent to establish residential homes.

[4:50:48] As a council, not to approve the proposed increase in allowing this building height and the miniscule setback behind her home.

[4:50:58] Instead, require the project to comply with the height limits that are currently established in the specific plan.

[4:51:05] We respectfully ask the Council to not approve the additional levels.

[4:51:10] Continue to work with Memorial Care and the neighborhood to address the remaining concerns.

[4:51:17] Thank you.

[4:51:18] We're going to try Beth again one more time here. Beth Hamilton.

[4:51:34] We still can't hear you.

[4:51:35] I don't know what you're talking into, but we cannot hear you.

[4:51:46] So we're sitting.

[4:51:52] Perhaps we can move on to the next speaker.

[4:51:56] I can hear her.

[4:51:57] We chat with her.

[4:52:09] She supports it. She's under the access.

[4:52:17] I can't hear her.

[4:52:22] Beth, I can barely hear you from

[4:52:24] whatever you're speaking into. It's not coming in over the speakers in the council chamber,

[4:52:29] but I did hear that you support it.

[4:52:39] Thank you. Sorry about that. She said thank you.

[4:52:44] Larry Krandell.

[4:52:58] Welcome. Thank you.

[4:53:07] Good evening. Good evening, Mayor Coonine and Vice Mayor.

[4:53:11] Harper City Council Members. My name is Larry Krandell. I have lived in the Maraposa

[4:53:18] Condominiums for 34 years. My wife and I are 399 steps from the far front door to

[4:53:26] the Orange Coast Medical Center parking structure is being proposed. One could assume

[4:53:32] that we would give, give us, and then be, not in my backyard,

[4:53:39] mentality. However, we hold the

[4:53:41] exact opposite opinion. When I started with the City of Fountain Valley as a council member in

[4:53:46] three time mayor over the course of 15 years, this issue came before us. Since then, the population

[4:53:54] of Fountain Valley and this surrounding areas has aged requiring more medical care. Since then,

[4:54:01] Emergency room care a new siege has increased, since then Orange Coast Medical Center is a

[4:54:07] destination facility for top-notch specialty doctors. Orange Coast Medical Center

[4:54:13] banners hang with the message called to care. We care about the continued success of the entire

[4:54:22] Orange Coast Medical Center organization for the community at large and for the personal

[4:54:27] superb care we have received we encourage you to vote in favor of their thoughtful and refined

[4:54:34] proposal to allow them to continue to do what they do best support the health care needs

[4:54:41] of the ever-increasing number of people they serve. Thank you.

[4:54:54] My kubbas.

[4:55:02] Welcome. Thank you. Well I'm in take a considerably and more selfish point of view.

[4:55:08] I live in the closest unit to the foster entrance, and I'm directly affected by view, smell, and noise.

[4:55:19] View, current parking lot is the young views parking lot in the world.

[4:55:24] Sorry,

[4:55:27] but that a church across the street wouldn't pass your number 9 proposal tonight.

[4:55:34] It's not a good view, and if I want to see the mountains, we're just not going to see them anyways.

[4:55:40] Smell, because it's guess using that parking lot, it's behind my fence, that they smoke.

[4:55:47] And the hospital's tried real hard, but having, thinking, employees, I want to deal with that anymore.

[4:55:56] Moys is huge. I can't imagine the construction of the new parking lot being louder than

[4:56:03] it currently is there. Talbot with the gas trucks with the kids racing their little cars

[4:56:12] with the turbochargers, constant noise on the road.

[4:56:20] It's just, it's so loud. The guests

[4:56:24] arguing over grandma's dishes and she hasn't even died yet.

[4:56:29] It's unbelievable the amount of noise.

[4:56:33] Can't wait to see it go on.

[4:56:36] Early morning landscaping because they can't get landscape

[4:56:39] present there when people are already parked.

[4:56:42] So they have to landscape before the parking starts.

[4:56:46] They want to do that anymore.

[4:56:47] Because now there won't be any cars blocking the trees.

[4:56:50] the landscapers can service that lot during the middle of the day, who's now they're waking

[4:56:55] up. The people stealing the catalytic converters in the middle of the night. Those things

[4:57:02] will all be gone. So yeah, I'm being very selfish, very selfishly, put it in that parking lot.

[4:57:11] A bigger thing, the J walkers, I've almost hit five of them. One of your doctors may be here at

[4:57:19] had words with me. They walk across to the speed that, and when we're driving, they sit on our

[4:57:25] appolar. We don't see them. My son twice yelled at me, stop. You're about to add them. We don't

[4:57:31] see them. If you're at the right spot, they just stay in your appolar. Thank you for the overhead

[4:57:40] pathway. And please let the police department enforce Jaywalkers after it's done, because we hate

[4:57:46] almost hitting them. We don't try to. It just happens.

[4:57:53] I don't mean my wife.

[4:57:56] Currently, the guests, the drug sales people, they're constantly

[4:58:02] parking in a parking lot at the community.

[4:58:07] We see it constantly. They're like, well, Mike, I don't

[4:58:10] sorry your time is up. Thanks.

[4:58:14] Dr. Stanley Arnold.

[4:58:24] Good evening.

[4:58:25] Mayor Kanin, Vice Mayor Harper, and members of the City Council.

[4:58:30] My name is Dr. Stan Arnelem,

[4:58:31] I'm a practicing internist and president of Edens your medical group.

[4:58:36] Private physician-owned medical group, serving in the communities since 1961.

[4:58:42] We've been partnered in delivering value-based care

[4:58:45] with the memorial system in North Dakota's memorial for over 25 years.

[4:58:51] And in that time, I've seen them the hospital transform

[4:58:54] from a sleepy little community hospital to the premier state of the art institution is today.

[4:59:01] And to say that the original parking structure is antiquated and in need of a transformation

[4:59:09] with more parking is an understatement. And so I ask for your permission to proceed with the

[4:59:18] new structure. Thank you very much.

[4:59:23] At the Arnold. At the Arnold. I actually have a question for you, Dr. Arnold.

[4:59:28] So, Dr. Arnold was my doctor for years at an intermedical group.

[4:59:33] And I understand that parking lot really well.

[4:59:36] And I was one of those Jaywalkers all the time.

[4:59:39] But what I don't understand is especially for

[4:59:42] your medical group, where are your patients going to park now? Because if that's for doctors only,

[4:59:49] where will your patients park? Reddinger. When the new structure is completed? Yeah. The park

[4:59:56] in the existing structure. So that's much further.

[5:00:00] From where are we park now? No, it's close to right now the patient's park in the structure. When they

[5:00:08] can find a spot, most of the staff is parking in the physician's, we're privileged and we get

[5:00:15] spots on the, in the structure. But the patient's park in the structure, or they're parking

[5:00:21] by Valle, but the staff parking the foster lot, where the current proposal is for the new parking

[5:00:31] structure. Okay, I still see the old structure, to your office, to me, is much further than

[5:00:39] just walking across and entering the back door of the, no. Okay, yeah. Thank you. You bet.

[5:00:48] Next speaker is Theresa Stern.

[5:00:57] Welcome.

[5:01:00] Mayor Kineen, Vice Mayor Harper, Members of the City Council.

[5:01:04] Thank you for allowing me to be here today in support of the parking structure at Orange Coast Medical Center.

[5:01:10] My name is Theresa Stern, and I have the privilege of overseeing Orange Coast Medical Center's Ancillary Services,

[5:01:16] which includes supportive, diagnostic, and therapeutic services for our patients and their loved ones.

[5:01:22] One of the areas I oversee is our Parkinson's and Movement Disorders program.

[5:01:27] Parkinson's disease is the fastest growing neurologic disease worldwide.

[5:01:32] In Orange Coast Medical Center, proudly offers one of the most robust Parkinson's programs in all of Orange County.

[5:01:40] When a patient is diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, they will develop neuromuscular movement disorders that works in over time.

[5:01:46] Every day activities such as walking, eating, and speaking become extremely difficult.

[5:01:54] My team supports these patients with the menu of services throughout this difficult journey.

[5:02:00] From speech therapy, physical therapy, to complementary exercise classes, patients of poor groups, and even caregivers of poor groups.

[5:02:09] As you can imagine, receiving and benefiting from these support services requires many visits to our hospital campuses.

[5:02:18] Monthly, weekly, or even daily, depending on the stage of disease.

[5:02:23] This need can go on for many, many years.

[5:02:28] This means people suffering from Parkinson's disease and their caregivers are driving to the hospital for much needed care and are dealing with the stress of finding parking.

[5:02:38] stress that can intensify their already difficult symptoms as they fear potentially being

[5:02:44] late or even worse missing these complementary services services they very much need.

[5:02:53] As we live longer, it is a fact that individuals will develop a variety of diseases that

[5:02:59] require an array of services to support them on their difficult journey and I am here today

[5:03:06] We're speckfully asking you to make it easier for them to receive the care they need.

[5:03:14] Please vote to approve this parking project from a moral care so that we can continue to best care for our patients and their caregivers.

[5:03:22] Thank you.

[5:03:29] Rosa Evans.

[5:03:32] Risa.

[5:03:33] Oh.

[5:03:39] Welcome.

[5:03:40] Thank you.

[5:03:41] Good evening.

[5:03:42] Mayor Coonan, Vice Mayor Harper, and Council members.

[5:03:48] My name is Risa Evans, and I am chair for the Memorial Care Health System Board, and I'm

[5:03:55] also on the Orange County Hospital Board, and I'm a patient at Orange Coast also.

[5:04:01] Memorial Care and my work through the board has given me the opportunity to collaborate

[5:04:07] with physicians, nurses, and leaders to improve timely access to healthcare services through our

[5:04:14] hospitals and all of our clinics. Together we understand that it's our employees who are the

[5:04:21] foundation of Memorial Care's culture of caring for our patients and visitors that come through

[5:04:26] our doors every day. But it's becoming harder and harder in our orange coast hospital for our

[5:04:33] employees to find a place to leave their vehicles so that they can come in and provide that

[5:04:39] exceptional care. Currently our employees at Orange Coast Park in a multiple location throughout

[5:04:46] the campus and staff consider themselves lucky if they can find a spot in one of those

[5:04:52] multiple locations. They start their day on the front end frustrated before they even started

[5:05:01] the long work day ahead of them as incredible health workers.

[5:05:06] The prepping structure is something the employees need and want.

[5:05:09] It's a regular topic of conversation and the anticipation is very high that you will

[5:05:15] approve our project and we can get construction started.

[5:05:20] We are so appreciative to Emily Randall for her time that she spent to meet with residents,

[5:05:25] neighbors, staff, and community leaders to listen and find parking solution that would strike

[5:05:32] the right balance for hopefully everyone. And with over 500 letters of support from

[5:05:38] Fountain Valley residents, nurses, physicians, employees, community leaders, and patients,

[5:05:45] she's handled all of that with grace. This solution will now streamline parking on campus,

[5:05:51] to just one employee parking structure at the corner of Talboton Foster and a bridge to take the traffic off of the foster where people are Jay walking and we're having dangerous situations.

[5:06:05] The parking structure will alleviate a lot of daily stress for our compassionate health care teams so that they can focus on patient care instead.

[5:06:16] Help us in this endeavor, please, and support the parking lot center development for Memorial Care.

[5:06:30] I have no further requests to speak.

[5:06:35] Okay.

[5:06:35] Thanks.

[5:06:35] I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open up to comments from Council.

[5:06:43] That's all I'm in.

[5:06:44] Good.

[5:06:46] Great presentation.

[5:06:47] And so I know, I understand, you know, that this will be just for employees and there'll be a key card badge system for the employees, the volunteers and the physicians.

[5:07:00] Somebody was just off earlier asking about security. Do we have any information on that? Any kind of patrolling or anything?

[5:07:10] That

[5:07:14] question for you. Yes, we have a security that will be on patrol in that area.

[5:07:21] So, regular patrol to make sure that everything stays in order as it should and will also have the badge system to be able to get from area area.

[5:07:33] It was suggested that the planning commission that the elevators would run with badge access as well to prevent interlopers from coming into the

[5:07:43] structure, and so that is our plan as well, and we also have the officers that stand outside

[5:07:55] of the emergency entrance just across the foster, so they have a great view of the overall

[5:08:01] area as well.

[5:08:03] One last question, when will construction start?

[5:08:07] Well, we'll have to take it once we receive approval from the City Council.

[5:08:14] We would take it forward to our Board of Directors at both Orange Coast and at Memorial Health

[5:08:20] Services.

[5:08:22] So there's a process involved in that, then it would go out to bid or for final designs and

[5:08:28] bid probably construction wouldn't start until spring of next year.

[5:08:34] Great.

[5:08:34] I'm very excited.

[5:08:35] Thank you so much, thank you.

[5:08:39] Any other council comments?

[5:08:41] Council member Lee.

[5:08:43] Thank you, Mayor.

[5:08:44] So, I have a question.

[5:08:46] My understanding, you also own an in the piece of property, which is south of the hospital.

[5:08:52] Do you have any plans of that business,

[5:08:56] Plaza or?

[5:08:58] Uses.

[5:08:59] Mariposa Plaza.

[5:09:00] Yeah, shopping center.

[5:09:02] Yes, we actually are using it to full extent to move.

[5:09:06] we've moved a number of office offices out of the hospital to make room for patient care.

[5:09:14] And so anything that any service or activity that doesn't require that is not required

[5:09:23] to be inside the acute care hospital, we have moved some of those services there.

[5:09:28] So we are using it as it currently exists.

[5:09:32] There's the strip mall and two pretty sturdy buildings

[5:09:37] that we plan to use just as we're using them now.

[5:09:41] OK.

[5:09:42] Well, Ms. Randall, first of all, thank you for your outstanding

[5:09:45] committee outreach and congratulations on your appointment

[5:09:49] as chief executive of the hospital.

[5:09:52] Thank you.

[5:09:53] I also want to thank the resident and the everyone

[5:09:57] who came out and to speak on this matter, for the lending their words today. I also would

[5:10:04] like to share my two experience. My family has had with this institutions. So two decades ago,

[5:10:14] my son received exceptional care with this wall. And last year, the same standard of excellent

[5:10:22] shown once again. For that, I extend my gratitude to the hospital, and to the remarkable

[5:10:29] team of dedicated professional. Thank you for caring for my family and across the, and across

[5:10:38] the years, and for caring for this white, the whole community. Thank you.

[5:10:50] That's all, and grannies? Yeah, so a couple of questions. First off, I also have experience

[5:10:55] here. My son was born, one of my two boys were born on that property, but he's 36, so it was

[5:11:03] FHP and not Orange Coast, so I'm old. One of the biggest issues, actually before I get

[5:11:16] to that, is that always been a parking lot, like forever, back even FHP days, or what was

[5:11:22] that before. Does anybody know the

[5:11:28] boys on girls, a girl's club on that property, okay?

[5:11:34] Brian's even older than me. Okay, thanks Brian. I'm just curious about that.

[5:11:43] Obviously

[5:11:44] those homes, I was curious what was there before the parking lot. What were they behind?

[5:11:52] So, the movie to try the movie theater, that's right, now I've been there many times.

[5:11:58] Okay, that's right, now it's all coming back.

[5:12:02] So, I think one of the biggest issues I talk to my buddy, Herb Fallen, who lives back there,

[5:12:08] and I think the biggest issue is people parking in the neighborhood.

[5:12:12] So, how do we, what are we going to do to discourage patients, I think doctors will have enough room now, but how do we discourage patients from parking in the neighborhood?

[5:12:28] I think you'll obviously will have adequate parking for employees and for physicians, but that means that there will be areas in the existing parking structure,

[5:12:40] and all of the surface slots around the edge or medical building, as well as the HW, the

[5:12:46] health and wellness pavilion. There's a lot of surface parking that will be freed up because

[5:12:51] there won't be employees and physicians parking in that area. So that'll give us more parking

[5:12:57] for patients. So I really don't believe that there will be the need for our patients and visitors

[5:13:04] to overflow onto the streets.

[5:13:08] When I was out doing a lot of community outreach, that was a real concern of the neighbors

[5:13:16] across Talbot as well on Chestnut, no, Keshu, that there was, they wanted to be assured

[5:13:26] that there would not be parking with the construction, while the construction was going

[5:13:30] that there wouldn't be construction trucks there, and we took care of that with our agreement

[5:13:36] with the church. The other thing is that it is anybody parking in the area and they wondered

[5:13:43] if we would be supportive, if the hospital would be supportive of signage on those streets with

[5:13:49] the city, with the city's help to prohibit patient parking on there. There's that it was signed

[5:13:57] somehow, so that was some feedback that we received, anything that we can do to support, not having

[5:14:03] folks park in the nearby neighborhoods, we would be willing to support.

[5:14:10] Okay, I'm glad to hear that. I think that's something that I don't think we can prohibit parking

[5:14:14] there, it's public street, but maybe a no-patient parking or something, I think, could be helpful.

[5:14:21] The other issue brought up was truck deliveries going through the neighborhoods.

[5:14:25] What could we do to prevent delivery trucks from continuing through?

[5:14:33] Yeah. The truck deliveries should come off of Brookhurst into the dock area.

[5:14:40] That's the most direct route.

[5:14:42] So going through Phillips and Foster is not really a good route for any trucks,

[5:14:48] but I'm sure that there's some that get way laid and go through that neighborhood.

[5:14:53] So, we can work with our vendors to basically, you know, emphasize the

[5:15:00] The direct route for the drop-off of deliverance and so forth.

[5:15:05] Well, I'm hoping you give me a commitment now that you guys will reach out to your vendors,

[5:15:09] because many of them may not even realize that's a big issue for the neighbors.

[5:15:13] Absolutely, yeah, we have our commitment.

[5:15:16] Okay. And then, is there any way for when they exit onto Talbert, and I'm glad they're exiting on to Talbert?

[5:15:25] But sometimes, Talbert backs up, we don't want them to cut through foster and then go through

[5:15:32] the neighborhood too.

[5:15:34] I know that you're blocking them from going the other way and left into the parking lot.

[5:15:38] Is there any way that, I don't know, I guess they're all going to be doctors, so it's not

[5:15:46] like it's patients coming out of that parking lot.

[5:15:49] How do we motivate them to make sure they don't cut through the neighborhood?

[5:15:58] Well, I think those instructions will be very clear when we establish the parking lot.

[5:16:05] All of the rules of the road for the parking structure will be part of policy for us.

[5:16:10] And so if it will mostly be employees, there will be some doctors and volunteers, but all

[5:16:17] of those are under our supervision and if they don't follow the rules, then we take action

[5:16:24] to make sure they get in line.

[5:16:27] Okay, that's good.

[5:16:28] This has been recorded and if you're going to play this back, if you don't, so that's good.

[5:16:33] That's good.

[5:16:33] Oh, lower the boom.

[5:16:34] There you go.

[5:16:36] I was going to ask you the same question as Dr. Arnold, because I didn't wait

[5:16:40] get the answer I was hoping for, but you did say that I didn't realize doctors were parking

[5:16:46] in those lots right next to the building as well. Yeah, we have a lot of docs that park on the

[5:16:53] first floor of the existing parking structure, but others that park in those surface lots around

[5:17:01] the buildings so that that we should dissipate because it will be really plenty of parking

[5:17:09] for staff and for physicians so it was a surface parking lots should be available for patients.

[5:17:16] Okay and you're going to give that same commitment if you see doctors parking there anyway

[5:17:20] that you'll absolutely they all they have the badges as well as the parking permits so

[5:17:26] Okay. We will find them.

[5:17:30] All right. You know, we, you know, I agree that a parking structure is important, but I think

[5:17:35] it's important to address the residents needs as well. So you're going to make, and I know

[5:17:39] I've worked with you for a short while now, but I believe that when you say that, that you

[5:17:44] will follow through, so appreciate it. Thank you.

[5:17:51] Vice-merhopper.

[5:17:53] Thank you. I request for Matt Jenkins.

[5:18:00] So, if I read the staff report correctly, there's, after we build a parking structure, there'll be a surplus of 318 or 379 parking spots.

[5:18:18] I certainly, while I recognize that there's a need for a parking additional parking at the Memorial Care.

[5:18:26] I have, I'm struggling with the need for a five-story parking structure.

[5:18:33] It seems like the first three levels would meet the needs that are sort of identified in the staff report.

[5:18:43] So, I just, you know, I guess I, and given the surrounding neighborhoods,

[5:18:50] It's like five stories, that's a big parking structure and if we can satisfy the need with

[5:18:59] three stories, I don't see why we need to go to five.

[5:19:05] So with respect to the numbers, historically the city had fairly restrictive parking requirements

[5:19:12] and when the project was first, well, years ago when Orange Coast Memorial first looked at it,

[5:19:22] they used the city's parking ratios, again, which were very restrictive, and so that's how they

[5:19:27] planned their structure and coming up with the code calculated required parking under the old

[5:19:35] provisions we came to 2000 and 16 parking spaces required per the calculated code for the hospital

[5:19:45] campus, the entire campus. The city is since revised its parking standards to kind of be more

[5:19:53] in line with industry standards and from engineering studies based on real world applications of

[5:20:00] and what they're parking generates, and those studies suggested

[5:20:04] a more conservative parking ratio of five parking spaces

[5:20:09] per thousand, which is what the city recently updated its parking ratios to.

[5:20:17] Thus at the beginning of this project, Orange Coast Memorial still was using the old parking ratios,

[5:20:23] which required more parking spaces, and so when they were planning their parking structure,

[5:20:28] They were under the assumption using the old ratios that the whole campus required

[5:20:35] 2,000 parking spaces, so the design is a parking structure, then being 860 parking spaces.

[5:20:46] Then since through public outreach they revised it to increase the step back to the west

[5:20:53] decreasing the total amount of spaces to the 784 now, but by doing that decreasing the size

[5:21:05] of the structure, using the old code requirement to which are not the current requirements

[5:21:09] of the city, but the older requirements located in the specific plan of one space per

[5:21:14] 1143 square feet by doing that under the old parking requirement with the post structure,

[5:21:26] the project only gained 26 parking spaces.

[5:21:31] Because the parking requirement was so high of 2,000 under the older requirements.

[5:21:36] So they revised their parking structure to reduce the amount of spaces that they're going

[5:21:41] building and revise the parking ratios to be online with the city which require less parking

[5:21:51] than what we previously required in the past. So the number looks like the project is building

[5:22:00] more parking than what is needed. However, these numbers are based on calculations. I think the

[5:22:09] hospital and their staff that has been there for years, understand the daily operations of the parking

[5:22:15] challenges there and with the overlap of employees with the nursing situation they provided.

[5:22:24] Yeah, I understand that.

[5:22:25] To accommodate their needs.

[5:22:27] But I guess, you know, there's going to be with the just building a three-level structural

[5:22:31] and 267 parking spaces compared to what they have now, and I've heard like, oh well, we need

[5:22:42] for the shift. I guess I haven't seen any numbers that really justify the additional parking

[5:22:49] that they're requesting. So that's where I'm having an issue.

[5:22:56] I think one thing that council member Booy brought up is that shopping center that's next to the hospital that's currently

[5:23:08] be using for offices. I don't think that's going to be used for offices forever and I think eventually that's going to

[5:23:18] additional parking. So, you know, there's just no way you buy your shopping

[5:23:23] center like that for office space. So, I think there's some future planning

[5:23:28] whether they could talk about that or not now. I would expect that. Do you know

[5:23:33] what I'm saying? No, I don't. I had something that could happen maybe in the future

[5:23:41] someday. Well, you're planning a parking structure now. You have to plan for the

[5:23:46] as well. And there's a shopping center right next to it. But they haven't, what's in the

[5:23:51] Stanford for what I've heard is that they've got 369 extra parking spaces. And we don't

[5:23:59] wide-build a five-story structure. If you only three, it's much less impact on the, on the neighborhood.

[5:24:07] And that's what I, you know, that's where I am with it right now.

[5:24:13] Yeah, I mean, when do I think she wants to speak on that?

[5:24:17] They all quite speak.

[5:24:19] Just want to remind the council that the parking structure is, you know, we went one,

[5:24:27] one for below grade to decrease the height and there are only three stories and a rooftop parking.

[5:24:36] So it doesn't have, it's not the size of a five story parking structure,

[5:24:41] like the one at the south side of the campus.

[5:24:45] So it's really a three-story structure with an extra floor underneath

[5:24:49] and the rooftop parking.

[5:24:51] So we've tried to optimize as much parking as we can.

[5:24:56] We've obviously taken some out by stair stepping

[5:24:59] that parking structure back.

[5:25:02] What do you need all the extra parking?

[5:25:03] I mean, if there's only you've only

[5:25:06] in the staff report, you haven't shown me a need for that many

[5:25:10] many spaces. You've told me while we didn't were parking with the shift, but there's no parking

[5:25:14] demand study or anything like that. It's getting to that number. It's based on the old code.

[5:25:22] The shift overlap is real. It's an operational. Every day, every 12 hours, there is an overlap of staff,

[5:25:32] the nurses from the day shift to the night shift. They have to give reports. So it's only for a

[5:25:37] period of time about 30 to 45 minutes, but it's real and it's there. And if we, if we are

[5:25:44] stingy with the parking and go down to just exactly what the regulations say, we won't have

[5:25:50] enough parking and we'll have overflow into the neighborhoods, which is what we want to avoid.

[5:25:56] We need a little bit of padding so that that shift exchange can take place and that the overflow

[5:26:03] into the neighborhoods does not occur so that's that's my sense that we've got we've

[5:26:09] paired it down as much as we can we've gone underground and we've done the rooftop

[5:26:13] parking so as to not be such a large structure for the neighborhood.

[5:26:21] Okay yeah I just you know one of my first I joined a planning commission in the year

[5:26:28] 2014, and one of the first projects that we approved was demolishing the office building right there,

[5:26:37] and turning it in a parking lot because Memorial Care said they needed that for parking, and it's been empty since then.

[5:26:45] So, while I appreciate the need for extra parking, I think I would need more than we have to approve the project.

[5:26:57] And probably it sounds like maybe one or five, but that's where I think you don't want to recognize

[5:27:03] the applicant.

[5:27:05] I'm Shane Green with LLG engineers and I did the part we work on the parking study.

[5:27:09] Just to give a little bit of context, you know, you have almost roughly 2,000 spaces

[5:27:14] as well as being recommended.

[5:27:16] And out of the 2,000, we have a surplus from a closed standpoint of about 300, which is about 15%.

[5:27:22] So normally, normally when I'm talking part, I'm talking shopping centers, and normally you want a contingency of about 15%.

[5:27:31] Once you get to about 15%, or beyond 15%, it starts to feel full.

[5:27:36] So you're searching, you're starting to look, so we're building into this contingency and that convenience factor for that.

[5:27:45] So it's covering that plus the shift that they're talking about.

[5:27:48] So it sounds like a big number that a whole level or two, but it's really not.

[5:27:54] It's providing enough surplus for a good experience.

[5:27:58] And that's what we're trying to accomplish here.

[5:28:03] Councilwoman Constantine.

[5:28:05] Sure.

[5:28:05] I just want to say my mother was there.

[5:28:08] My mom's still alive and everything.

[5:28:10] But there's so many medical office buildings there.

[5:28:15] It's not just hospital.

[5:28:16] There's constant in and out.

[5:28:19] It's a tremendously busy place, ice-marre harbour.

[5:28:23] And it's true about the shopping center,

[5:28:26] the adjacent shop, the former shopping center.

[5:28:29] I mean, we don't know what is going to be with that.

[5:28:34] I would imagine that in the future,

[5:28:37] there will be a need for parking by the physicians

[5:28:42] and staff that use that former shopping center right now.

[5:28:46] And so it just makes sense that they would be parking the parking structure so truly for me

[5:28:51] it's a non-ish.

[5:28:52] Thank you.

[5:28:53] So I'd like to provide many reasons why I support this project.

[5:28:57] So first, we talked about the increase in the increase parking capacity, which is clearly

[5:29:03] important to Orange Coast Memorial.

[5:29:06] I think that goes without saying at this point.

[5:29:09] We talked about improving the traffic flows and I think the design does that and a thoughtful

[5:29:15] away from Talbert, to Foster, Phillips, so I think that's an improvement overall in that area.

[5:29:24] Third, the pedestrian bridge, as we heard, will increase safety by providing a dedicated

[5:29:30] elevated parkway, and so hopefully we'll detour the unpermitted pedestrians, I think they

[5:29:41] I truly believe the applicant has gone well above and beyond on all aspects of the design and particularly in the community outreach.

[5:29:55] The number five, the planning commission has approved this unanimously.

[5:30:00] Six, the pedestrian bridge itself, I think, is beautifully designed.

[5:30:06] I mean, there's, there's world-stealed tubing, which is very expensive. I mean, these are some features that I think are really going to enhance that project.

[5:30:18] There's over 500 letters of support, which should have been provided of the 20 speakers tonight.

[5:30:25] 17 were in favor of this project. And then lastly, I also have, you know, a story to tell

[5:30:34] from our, our time there. My, my wife was diagnosed with stage two breast cancer in 2017.

[5:30:42] And that triggered at least 50 trips over the next year, you know, and so we spent a lot of time with these

[5:30:53] exact same issues of trying to find parking. And I remember the stress of, okay, this is

[5:30:59] what's coming up. I can't find a spot, you know? And so I think this facility is more

[5:31:10] than just another kind of place to build a parking structure. It has a deeper meaning for me personally

[5:31:17] as well. And I think for those reasons I support the project. Any other questions from Council?

[5:31:23] Yeah, I'm sorry one other. Um, so the resident to back sit brought up the

[5:31:31] When they call those lovers or

[5:31:35] Can

[5:31:36] What can be done to help the people who live back there to

[5:31:41] Whether you put up screens or something to to put you know block their view because they're they're right they're back there and

[5:31:49] I wouldn't be happy if somebody was looking into my backyard

[5:31:58] I'll start and Ted can jump in if I don't cover everything.

[5:32:03] There are screens planned to be on the tower side on the north side of the parking structure

[5:32:10] as to impact the look of it in the neighborhood, et cetera.

[5:32:16] And so we have not screened on the south side and the west side as heavily because we felt like that the green buffer with all of the trees would help with that screening.

[5:32:33] What we need to be careful about is that if we take screening we have to make sure that the ventilation remains natural through the center.

[5:32:44] but there's no mechanical ventilation in that center,

[5:32:47] because we didn't want to add that noise to the area.

[5:32:51] So we want natural ventilation to go through that parking structure.

[5:32:56] So we have to make sure that if we add screens on the south

[5:33:01] or the west side, that we take some from the north side.

[5:33:08] And I think that correctly.

[5:33:09] Well, the north side is telbert, right?

[5:33:11] Right.

[5:33:11] So nobody's yard is being looked into on tell it.

[5:33:16] It's the design of the building that we wanted it to be softened a bit with that screening.

[5:33:24] So that is a purpose of the screening on that north side.

[5:33:30] But we certainly can consider it.

[5:33:31] We just need to make sure that the natural ventilation is balanced and that we don't put

[5:33:37] extra screening in one place that is already covered up by trees or whatnot. So that's something that we can do.

[5:33:45] Those trees will be five years. So even if we did something temporary, you know, I just need a commitment.

[5:33:52] You guys are going to at least look into that portion for them.

[5:33:56] We can certainly look into it more.

[5:33:58] Okay, and if it's feasible, you'll do it.

[5:34:02] If it's feasible, we'll do it.

[5:34:03] Okay.

[5:34:04] All right. Thank you. That's my boy.

[5:34:11] I spoke with Ted earlier this week on conditions of approval for the

[5:34:15] ventilation of the structure, and this will come back to you for a second reading.

[5:34:21] Should you approve it tonight, but we will bring back also if you want to

[5:34:26] amend any conditions or add anything.

[5:34:28] But again, I was working with Ted on option 4, adding the screen on either of the west or south sides with language that would not necessarily transfer all the screening or have fully screened, but to so that we could verify that the structure will be able to be naturally ventilated.

[5:34:53] That must be so worth it, right? I'm like, I don't remember talking to you. Not this dead.

[5:34:59] This dead. Yeah. But that we will bring back at the next meeting of some proposed language for a condition that would

[5:35:06] acquire speech subject to certain conditions. I'm sure the hospital wants to be a good neighbor,

[5:35:12] so anything they can do, they I'm sure they will. Okay. I feel better.

[5:35:16] I just have quick questions if the hospital would explore the possibility in the future

[5:35:25] to perhaps answer some Council Member Harper's Concern, and my colleague here at Council

[5:35:31] McGranis, that people are, you know, how can we leave it people parking in the neighborhood?

[5:35:36] Perhaps once you have identified that well, you know what?

[5:35:40] We don't need all this space.

[5:35:41] perhaps, you know, possibly open up for

[5:35:47] patient that really need, I don't know, you know, perhaps open up portion of it.

[5:35:53] I don't know, that's, I'm going to leave that up to you.

[5:35:56] Yeah, do you realize that for those who are there for like critical care,

[5:36:01] or whatnot, that have to come back,

[5:36:03] repeat the months at the month, like some of the patients,

[5:36:06] and you know, calling them to have cancer patients,

[5:36:08] perhaps give them a batch for that,

[5:36:10] because they might go three or four months treatment. Perhaps open that up for them so you don't

[5:36:15] have that overflow that goes into Nibba. Just just a thought. Thank you. It's a good idea.

[5:36:21] Any other council comments? It's a really good idea. Okay. Right, I'll entertain a motion

[5:36:28] on the side of them. Our second. Oh. There's a councilman, boy. Our second.

[5:36:37] Okay.

[5:36:37] Just American every the title. Yes, please. Thank you.

[5:36:40] This is in order to the City Council of the City of Fountain Valley approving a mitigated

[5:36:44] negative declaration and adopting a mitigation and monitoring and reporting program and

[5:36:48] approving code amendment number 2401 to amend the Orange Coast Memorial Medical Center

[5:36:53] specific plan to include modifications to the development standards that would permit

[5:36:57] a freestanding parking structure in planning area three of the Orange Coast Medical Center

[5:37:01] specific plan. I just want to verify any more discussion before we vote?

[5:37:05] Nope. Okay, please vote.

[5:37:09] We got this done before 11.

[5:37:10] I

[5:37:15] have number 10 passes for one

[5:37:23] thanks everyone.

[5:37:26] Okay, we're gonna move on to

[5:37:27] administrative items item 11. Maybe we'll just take let's give like a couple minutes

[5:37:33] recess and appreciate everyone coming out tonight.

[5:43:28] We'll move in to administrative

[5:43:30] items item 11 or what a contract to AAA oil ink does business as California

[5:43:37] fuels and lubricants ink for unleaded and renewable diesel bulk fuel services presentation by Cassandra

[5:43:46] Burkhardt, welcome.

[5:43:52] Good evening Mayor and members of the council. The item I'm presenting

[5:43:55] tonight is a proposed contract with Triple A oil for bulk fuel services. So the city purchases

[5:44:02] bulk gasoline and diesel fuel for all our emergency vehicles. This fuel is delivered to above ground

[5:44:08] located at fire station number 1 and 2, feeling fueling our fire apparatus and ambulances.

[5:44:15] Our current contract with SC fuels expires on June 30, 2026, historically the city has

[5:44:22] piggybacked off of other municipal agreements to secure short-term pricing, while the

[5:44:27] satisfied the short-term staff decided to initiate a comprehensive IFB to transition to a multi-year

[5:44:34] agreement.

[5:44:38] So on March 10th, 1226, the city issued a comprehensive bid for unlettered and

[5:44:44] renewable diesel bulk fuel services. On April 1st, one formal bid proposal was received from

[5:44:50] Triple A oil ink. To ensure a competitive and fair bid process staff conducted a post solicitation

[5:44:58] survey of

[5:45:00] All non-responding firms and a total of 14 non-responding vendors cited one of the three or all the three primary barriers to bidding. First, the volume of the bulk field did not meet logistical capacity for smaller regional suppliers.

[5:45:18] Secondly, vendors cannot meet the city's performance bond requirements.

[5:45:23] Third, prospective bidders indicated they cannot meet the specific delivery timelines,

[5:45:29] or the renewable fuel-sourcing requirements of the city.

[5:45:37] So here we have the contract breakdown.

[5:45:40] So with this contract, fuel shall be ordered and delivered on an as needed basis with no minimum delivery volume requirements.

[5:45:47] Pricing is based on 10 AM, LA, Opus, daily rack, average, plus a vendor, fixed markup.

[5:45:56] The markup includes all delivery costs with no additional surcharges.

[5:46:02] Quick overview of the chart here. On the first column, we have the rack average per gallon

[5:46:08] for 2025. Next is the vendor markup on the next column.

[5:46:12] And then after that, as standard taxes and fees, and second to last is the estimated total consumption of fuel that the city requires for diesel and gasoline.

[5:46:24] Given that this market is highly volatile, we included a 10% contingency for margin, which led to our total projected annual cost equaling around $108,000 for this contract.

[5:46:41] So next for the fiscal review, the adopted budget for fiscal year 2627 includes efficient funding for the contract.

[5:46:51] There is currently $445,000 allocated for gasoline and diesel within the fleet management fund.

[5:47:00] That total estimated costs for the entire initial three-year term is $324,000.

[5:47:08] While this contract covers bulk fuel deliveries, there are many budget, is reserved for

[5:47:15] fuel card expenses for vehicles, fueling at commercial stations, fuel card expenses cost

[5:47:22] approximately $337,000 a year.

[5:47:30] So staff recommends that the city council approve alternative number one, which is to award

[5:47:35] contract to triple a oil ink for unlettered and renewable diesel book

[5:47:40] bill services. And I'll be happy to answer any questions.

[5:47:45] Thank you for your presentation. Open up to council comments for questions.

[5:47:50] I do.

[5:47:51] That's right.

[5:47:52] I had a real concern with this that I talked to staff about before that's only one

[5:47:58] bit around this. How many, I mean every city does there are many cities do this?

[5:48:04] Right. I mean, it doesn't seem like it's that unique what we're asking for. It does the

[5:48:13] AAA, it's AAA oil, who's winning this thing. I mean, do they supply every city around or

[5:48:21] why are our restrictions too great that we're not getting other bidders?

[5:48:28] Well, like I said, the three barriers were the volume that we're asking for.

[5:48:33] to high to low. It was too high for smaller local retail chains or gas chains and then

[5:48:40] plus the performance bond. We were asking for a performance bond. I know some studies they don't

[5:48:46] require that but we were asking for that. Well, should we be asking for that? Is that too restrictive?

[5:48:53] I mean why are we only getting one bid? Well our purchasing officers she just said that

[5:49:02] was the three main barriers, was the volume, the logistics of it, because we asked for a 24-48-hour

[5:49:10] business day range of time for the fuel to be delivered to us, and they weren't able to

[5:49:18] other vendors were able to get that to us, and that's what we're asking for, it's 48 hours

[5:49:23] to receive the fuel.

[5:49:28] So, so

[5:49:33] on the staff report, we cited the reasons. We can't exactly

[5:49:37] staff. We can't answer their business reasons why they don't want to bid. We had 14 interesting

[5:49:41] companies. So that's why we did. We looked the same thing. We have a concern. One bid does

[5:49:46] that seem reasonable. Then we found out that that seemed reasonable. Then we looked at the pricing.

[5:49:51] And the pricing is competitive versus where we were at before. And so as a result of those two

[5:49:57] evaluations. If you look at the pricing, the gasoline drops 27%. Because really the gas, the gas

[5:50:04] price stays the same. The taxes stay the same. We're talking about the delivery charges

[5:50:09] essentially and so that we're paying before this 20% percent higher and then for the gas

[5:50:15] and 41% higher. You told me that and that we saving money and I'm glad that we're saving

[5:50:21] money and it sounds like it's something just sounds off. To me I just can't get my arms around one

[5:50:27] better. We can look a little bit more into it but at this point in time yeah that's okay it's always

[5:50:33] nice to get the extra bits. And then a dumb question, why do we use retail fuel stations when

[5:50:40] we have this available? Is it cheaper at the retail fuel? It's not cheaper, it's a volume.

[5:50:47] My inner stand is the volume. I haven't been here when it first got set up, but it's a volume,

[5:50:52] but also to force every vehicle to go back to one of the fire stations to fuel up is also challenging

[5:50:57] to. They weren't designed as a fuel station. You're going into the fire stations and

[5:51:02] going to fill them up regularly.

[5:51:04] But I see them on public works, trucks, and such

[5:51:07] fill up this way, don't they?

[5:51:08] Or do they use them retail?

[5:51:09] They use a retail because they're all over the city.

[5:51:12] Now, the question did come up from Vice Mayor Harper

[5:51:14] before we were looking at the fire station about adding

[5:51:16] a larger above ground fire or fuel tank,

[5:51:19] and we will look at that, too.

[5:51:22] OK.

[5:51:22] All right, thank you.

[5:51:24] That's a good one.

[5:51:26] I want to ask a follow-up questions to my colleague here.

[5:51:30] you mentioned that you require them to have a performance ball and other city are they doing it the same thing

[5:51:39] and are they asking for a ball as well or are we the only one?

[5:51:44] I want to be able to answer that.

[5:51:45] I think our procurement officer should be able to answer that.

[5:51:50] I can find out for you but

[5:51:52] Because typically, when you ask additional, you know, bonds or insurance, it's cost more for business owners.

[5:52:01] That causes usually transitions to whoever's need the service.

[5:52:06] So, in the past, you know, do we have any historical data that we went to problem?

[5:52:12] That's why we asked.

[5:52:13] Well, we never went out to bid before for fuel.

[5:52:16] this is the first time, so it was kind of a new endeavor for us, but our legal team said it

[5:52:22] would be best to have a performance on too. So, recommendation there, so.

[5:52:28] Sure. I can't wait no, it's not an important point today at decision, but in the future

[5:52:33] to look at other city, how are they doing it? I mean, the county has to buy a few as well.

[5:52:38] Other cities by few as well, are they asking for a bond? Just as a curious.

[5:52:43] Okay, I can further look into that.

[5:52:46] Thank you.

[5:52:49] Okay.

[5:52:50] I'll call for a motion on the item.

[5:52:51] I make a motion to approve item number 11.

[5:52:54] All second?

[5:53:10] Just waiting for a count of number constant.

[5:53:12] Oh, it didn't come up.

[5:53:14] I don't have a voting screen.

[5:53:17] It has item 11 and public speakers on the right.

[5:53:24] No, there's no voting for me.

[5:53:28] Well, I mean, yes, if you want to know.

[5:53:31] Okay.

[5:53:35] Thank you so much.

[5:53:38] Got to go.

[5:53:40] Okay, item 12.

[5:53:41] Rehabilitation and resurfacing of Euclid Street from Slater Avenue to Talbot Avenue.

[5:53:46] And Talbot Avenue from Brookhurst Street to Bouchard Street project number 2401.

[5:53:50] Presentation by Engineering Associate Ryan Damon.

[5:53:53] Welcome.

[5:54:02] Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

[5:54:03] Members of the Council.

[5:54:04] Tonight we're excited to bring for your consideration the award of the construction contract

[5:54:08] for the city's next arterial paving project.

[5:54:11] The project limits will be a Euclid Street

[5:54:13] from Slater Avenue to Talbot Avenue

[5:54:15] and Talbot Avenue from Brooker Street to Bershard.

[5:54:20] Similar to the previous paving jobs,

[5:54:22] the scope of work includes pavement rehabilitation

[5:54:24] by grinding overlay in the street

[5:54:26] with fiber reinforced rubberized asphalt

[5:54:28] as well as the reconstruction of sidewalks,

[5:54:31] curb, gutter, and driveway approaches

[5:54:34] to ensure ADA compliance throughout the project area.

[5:54:39] Additionally, there are a series of trees on the west side of Euclid that have caused damage to the city's infrastructure to address the staff structure of the project with alternative bid items.

[5:54:48] That will remove the trees and install landscape planners that are designed to match the existing conditions on the east side of the street.

[5:54:56] Staff have determined that leaving the remaining trees in place would result in continued damage and additional repair costs in the future.

[5:55:03] So as you can see, a couple pictures of the current conditions, the trees have been the

[5:55:09] tree roots that have caused damage to the sidewalk, kerbs, gutters, and even the asphalt

[5:55:15] street.

[5:55:17] We're proposing to install five planners on the west side.

[5:55:21] This is what's currently constructed on the east side of the street.

[5:55:24] So we want to match and improve the corridor.

[5:55:30] So staff solicited bids on April 16th and received nine competitive bids on May 14th with

[5:55:37] Calmex Engineering being the lowest responsive and responsible bidder based upon the base bid

[5:55:43] amount.

[5:55:44] This total remains well below the engineers estimate of 3.1 million and within the project

[5:55:49] to prove budget.

[5:55:50] And as a result, staff recommends the inclusion of all alternative bid items for a total

[5:55:55] out not to exceed $2,643,731.50 cents. The city hasn't worked with

[5:56:03] CalMix Engineering, but they do have over 30 years of roadway

[5:56:06] experience throughout Southern California. Staff also contacted their

[5:56:10] references from recently completed Paving Projects and received very

[5:56:15] positive feedback regarding their work'smanship, professionalism, communication

[5:56:20] and communication with both agency staff and residents.

[5:56:25] To ensure a

[5:56:26] of oversight and quality control during construction, staff also recommends issuing a P.O. to

[5:56:31] will then engineering from the cities approved on-call consultant list for construction management

[5:56:37] inspection and material testing services in an amount not to exceed 141,196 dollars. Staffs listed

[5:56:46] multiple proposals and recommends will then because they offer the best overall value. They have

[5:56:51] extensive pavements, rehabilitation, experience, and they maintain an in-house material

[5:56:56] testing laboratory that will improve efficiency throughout the duration of the project.

[5:57:01] And if a proof tonight, construction is anticipated to begin this summer and be completed

[5:57:06] later in the fall.

[5:57:11] The total of proof project budget is 3.5 million and that's comprised of a combination of

[5:57:16] general fund SB1, measure M and water and sewer funds.

[5:57:20] The table on the bottom shows a breakdown of the project costs, and the total comes in under budgets under the budget amount at $3,058,100 and $48.50.

[5:57:35] And accordingly, staff recommends that City Council will work the construction contract to CalMex Engineering and authorize staff to issue a purchase order to build an engineering for construction management inspection and materials testing services.

[5:57:48] So thank you for your time, and I'll take any questions.

[5:57:50] Right, I have a question.

[5:57:51] So on the Euclid section, are the subtly property

[5:57:57] of project limits, including the intersection of Talbert

[5:58:01] and Euclid or does it end right where it includes the intersection.

[5:58:06] Yeah, the intersection is higher.

[5:58:07] It's okay, you beat up.

[5:58:08] So that's important because that's probably one of the most

[5:58:10] damaged intersections from, or I'm really the 405 project.

[5:58:14] And then on the north, at the slater, Euclid intersection, is it the same that that entire

[5:58:22] intersection?

[5:58:23] Yeah, we're matching the, I'll see you from the existing page and project.

[5:58:26] Very good.

[5:58:27] Any other questions?

[5:58:28] That's from Granus.

[5:58:30] And then we'll do it on you.

[5:58:32] Nice marker.

[5:58:33] Can you go back to the pictures of the trees?

[5:58:37] Yeah.

[5:58:39] So, in the next one, so this is, you said, this is going to be what it looks like.

[5:58:44] like on the other side now. Okay, so there'll be a line of bushes on the bottom with the trees

[5:58:53] like that. Yeah, just like that is about 45, 45 foot long planters that will match the

[5:59:00] the other side. Okay, I think that's an improvement because the other side now it's just those trees

[5:59:05] that are kind of lonely there and they get there under the under the power lines too. So, okay.

[5:59:12] And I was another issue as well, the trimming from SEE is caused many of them to be decayed and diseased.

[5:59:19] And so we'd like to leave them, but it also caused damage to future infrastructure.

[5:59:24] Yeah, okay, thank you.

[5:59:25] That's my grandest.

[5:59:26] Getting to go back to the list of bidders.

[5:59:31] It's late.

[5:59:32] I'm tired, but I made a mistake.

[5:59:36] You said you can include the alternative bid amount too.

[5:59:39] If that's the case, why isn't elegant construction the lowest bidder?

[5:59:45] When we got construction estimates for this project, the cost of asphalt fluctuated was fluctuating a lot.

[5:59:53] We didn't, we weren't sure if the alternative work would be able to be included in this project.

[6:00:00] The bid to have this alternative bid item, if it was cost prohibitive,

[6:00:08] and as a city, when we bid these projects out, we

[6:00:11] we base it on the base bid amount. If it wasn't, if the project came in over budget, then we would have just awarded

[6:00:19] the base work, which would be to remove just the most troublesome trees and do localized concrete repairs.

[6:00:29] This gave us the flexibility to possibly include it if it fit into the project budget.

[6:00:34] So, Rupert, comment, if you don't mind. Under the public contract code, we have to do it this way if we're going to do an alternate item.

[6:00:40] We have to have a way that we're going to select otherwise the concern is cities will put a bunch of alternate bid items out and then.

[6:00:46] Move one select one not the other and it will lead to favoritism so we're going to use alternatives which gives us flexibility to say we don't want that.

[6:00:52] We don't want that to expensive. We have to have a set objective way of selecting the lowest bidder.

[6:00:57] low-spitter here is basement amount so no matter what the alternatives are we go by

[6:01:00] basement okay that explains it thank you

[6:01:05] I'll move the item all second okay

[6:01:08] please vote I can't vote though because my screen is still stuck in 11

[6:01:12] yeah do a

[6:01:14] voice point sure

[6:01:20] did that fix it oh no it hasn't moved you don't get to vote

[6:01:27] all those in favor say I I all those opposed I don't number 12 passes five

[6:01:33] Thank you so much, Ryan.

[6:01:37] The item 13,

[6:01:41] approval resolution of the City Council of the City

[6:01:43] Fav Valley, approving and authorizing permanent implementation of the

[6:01:48] police officer and dispatcher hiring incentive program, presentation,

[6:01:53] please captain Jared from.

[6:01:55] Thank you.

[6:01:56] Good morning.

[6:01:57] Honorable Mayor.

[6:01:58] You remember the City Council?

[6:02:00] I mean, we're close enough.

[6:02:02] How many about it?

[6:02:03] Tonight's staff is requesting City Council approved to transition our police officer and dispatch

[6:02:08] hiring center program from its initial trial period into permanent status. This proposal

[6:02:14] directly supports our city's strategic goal to attract and retain high quality individuals.

[6:02:21] To provide some context, this program is originally approved as a one year trial period

[6:02:26] beginning in December of 2024 to combat our staffing issues. Currently, the police department is facing

[6:02:33] 12 police officer vacancies and roughly two dispatcher vacancies.

[6:02:39] The trial period has proven successful.

[6:02:41] From December 2024 through present, the city has expended a total of $30,000 in an employee

[6:02:49] sign-on and employer referral bonuses alongside $200 of comp time.

[6:02:56] To break down the data a little bit further in the past 18 months, we have brought in 13

[6:03:02] recruits, representing $25,000 paid, and $32,000 in pending milestones. We've hired

[6:03:10] two lateral dispatchers and one lateral police officer who received those bonuses. Furthermore,

[6:03:16] our own personnel took an active role in recruitment, resulting in three successful employees

[6:03:19] and employee referrals. This structured approach is no longer optional. It is a necessity to remain

[6:03:28] competitive. Our direct neighbors and

[6:03:31] peer agencies, including Westminster,

[6:03:32] Buena Park, and the Orange County Sheriff's

[6:03:34] Department, all utilized highly similar

[6:03:37] incentives ranging from $10,000 to $15,000

[6:03:42] in bonuses for new hires. The permanent

[6:03:46] incentive structure will strictly mirror

[6:03:47] the successful guidelines established during

[6:03:49] our trial period. A lot of police officers,

[6:03:52] they get up to $10,000 and that's broken

[6:03:54] up into two separate payments. Once they get

[6:03:56] hired and if they pass probation, they'll

[6:03:58] with the last payment, which is $5,000.

[6:04:01] For recruit, police officers and lateral dispatchers,

[6:04:04] it's $5,000, and again, that's broken up

[6:04:07] and into two payments once they get hired

[6:04:08] and if they pass probation.

[6:04:11] And then employee referrals, you get $2,000

[6:04:13] if you refer somebody, they get hired

[6:04:16] and then if they pass probation.

[6:04:19] From a financial perspective,

[6:04:21] I want to emphasize that no additional budget appropriations

[6:04:23] being requested tonight.

[6:04:25] The police department's personal budget

[6:04:27] can have to completely absorb these costs through salary savings.

[6:04:31] Therefore, staff recommends that the City Council approved alternative number one to permanently

[6:04:35] implement the police officer and dispatch hiring incentive program.

[6:04:39] Thank you, and I'm here for any questions.

[6:04:42] Thank you, Captain.

[6:04:43] Any questions from Council?

[6:04:45] That's my book.

[6:04:49] Thank you.

[6:04:51] Officer Fran, how's the existing officer that's currently on the force?

[6:04:55] How do they feel about this?

[6:04:57] Are they supportive of this?

[6:04:58] I mean...

[6:05:00] Because you said staff, I just want to know

[6:05:02] what about the police department officer?

[6:05:04] How do you feel about this?

[6:05:05] It is pretty morale for potentials and all that?

[6:05:09] 100% supportive of it.

[6:05:11] Okay, thank you.

[6:05:14] Any other questions or comments?

[6:05:16] That's what I'm requesting.

[6:05:17] Thank you very much, Lieutenant Fram.

[6:05:19] Great presentation, and I love the program.

[6:05:23] Thank you, ma'am.

[6:05:24] Sure, all right.

[6:05:25] I moved to approve, maybe have any questions?

[6:05:26] A second.

[6:05:29] actually think it doesn't go far enough to be honest. I think we have a critical

[6:05:34] need in this area. We're short 12 officers. So for up to me I would do more.

[6:05:41] Yep me too. Okay. What's that? I agree. Okay.

[6:05:53] I had a number 13 past

[6:05:54] this 5-0. Thanks so much. Guess it is up to me. I'm 5th. Next is item 14. Adopt

[6:06:01] resolution to affect certain changes to the city's Master Salary Schedule and conformance

[6:06:06] with Title II of the California Code of Regulation Section 570.5 and the California Public

[6:06:12] Employees Retirement System presentation by Human Resources Director, Tanya Narehase.

[6:06:18] Hi, good evening.

[6:06:19] I know it's late, but thank you for having me today.

[6:06:23] Tonight, I'm presenting an administrative item number 14, requesting council adoption

[6:06:28] of an updated Master Salary Schedule.

[6:06:29] I'll walk through the purpose of the schedule, the changes included in the recommended action.

[6:06:36] As background, the City Council is responsible for establishing the basic compensation plan for all city employees across every classification.

[6:06:45] In addition, Title II California Code of Regulation Section 570.5 requires all public agencies to maintain,

[6:06:53] and publish a complete master salary schedule that is formally approved and adopted by the City Council.

[6:06:58] Updates presented tonight ensure that our salary schedule remains compliant with state

[6:07:03] requirements and accurately reflects the compensation actions already approved through

[6:07:07] our MOU's and employment resolutions.

[6:07:14] Updates included in this year's salary schedule are as follows, first the cost to live in

[6:07:18] adjustments have been applied to full-time and hourly part-time classifications which have

[6:07:23] a full-time equivalent consisting with the memorandums of understanding and employment

[6:07:27] resolutions previously adopted by the council. These adjustments take effect in the paper

[6:07:32] including July 1, 2026. Secondly, we've updated the hourly rates for several part-time

[6:07:38] classifications specifically firefighter training, firefighter paramedic training, and police

[6:07:43] recruit. These adjustments are to ensure alignment with the current part-time resolution.

[6:07:50] In terms of fiscal impact, there's none beyond what has already been budgeted. These

[6:07:55] Allure adjustments are fully incorporated into the fiscal year 2627 budget adopted by the council so no additional funding is required.

[6:08:06] Staff is recommending alternative number one adopt a resolution affecting changes to the city's master's salary schedule.

[6:08:14] Do you guys have any questions for me tonight?

[6:08:18] Move to approve.

[6:08:20] I'll second.

[6:08:22] Good report.

[6:08:23] Thank you.

[6:08:23] Good night.

[6:08:34] Item number 14 passes five zero.

[6:08:37] Okay, next is item 15, amendment number 4 to extend contract number 2-1-1 from July 1-2026 through July 1-2027 with CityNet for homeless outreach services in the amount of 366,874 dollars

[6:08:55] presentation by Lieutenant Robert Cortez and Captain Jared Fram, I'll go back.

[6:09:02] Thank you, Mayor. Let's go out to be back.

[6:09:06] In a moment, you're going to hear a presentation from Lieutenant Cortez and

[6:09:10] representatives from CityNet regarding a recommendation to extend our contract

[6:09:13] with their services. I was absolutely honored to lead our special operations bureau,

[6:09:19] especially during a time of such uncertainty when it came to finding

[6:09:22] viable solutions for a sustaining unhoused and improving the quality of life for our citizens.

[6:09:28] Fortunately, the recent legislative changes and waivering support from the Chief of Police,

[6:09:34] the City Manager, and the consistent backing of the City Council,

[6:09:39] we have successfully found those solutions. I want to take a moment to recognize the individuals who

[6:09:44] have done the heavy lifting on the ground. We have an amazing special operations team led by

[6:09:52] and they're standing in the back for they've been standing and I think for about three or four hours.

[6:09:57] Through their dedication, I'm sorry for their dedicated hard work alongside storm partnerships with other city departments, including public works, community service,

[6:10:07] and the city of attorney's office.

[6:10:09] We have dramatically decreased the number of unhoused individuals in our city.

[6:10:13] You will see the impressive results of these efforts in our upcoming presentation.

[6:10:18] What has truly made this entire initiative of work is our seamless collaboration with CityNet.

[6:10:22] who are also here. They have been an invaluable asset in helping our team achieve these goals.

[6:10:29] But as we all know, this work is never entirely done. Moving forward, we will continue to utilize

[6:10:35] a compassion first approach when engaging with the unhaused while maintaining safety and a high

[6:10:41] quality of life for all of our citizens. With that, I will turn the presentation over to Lieutenant

[6:10:46] court has? Thank you very much.

[6:10:53] Before I begin it, I want to first let everyone know that

[6:10:56] that good morning joke with my joke, but the catficker for me. So, good evening, the

[6:11:00] mayor, vice mayor, city council.

[6:11:05] I'll keep it real quick. The captain already said a lot

[6:11:07] of good words about our partnership with what's sitting at and our special operation bureau.

[6:11:14] So,

[6:11:16] over the past four years, city nets have become a trusted and valuable partner to the

[6:11:20] City and Police Department and addressing homelessness.

[6:11:24] Their team works directly with conduct health individuals,

[6:11:27] helping connecting with shelter, medical care, mental health services,

[6:11:31] and ultimately pathways towards stability.

[6:11:36] What has made this partnership especially effective

[6:11:38] is a strong collaboration between city and our police department,

[6:11:43] specifically our special operation bureau.

[6:11:45] City Network closely with our community resource officer

[6:11:47] providing a compassionate and service oriented response

[6:11:52] to individuals experiencing homelessness.

[6:11:56] This collaboration allows officers to focus on public safety concerns while ensuring individuals

[6:12:01] in the interconnected, with housing, mental health services and other critical resources.

[6:12:07] The relationship has foster trust and proof coordination can help create more sustainable solutions

[6:12:12] for some of our communities, most vulnerable residents.

[6:12:16] The results speak for themselves.

[6:12:19] Through 2026, there have been 109,000 successful street exits, helping individuals

[6:12:23] transition from homelessness into stable, into stable housing, and supportive environments.

[6:12:30] It is of equally important to note that this partnership has also played a critical role

[6:12:35] and you are alive in our dedicated beds at the Central State East Navigation Center

[6:12:39] where today, semi-sick individual, have been successfully placed.

[6:12:46] These efforts have contributed to measure reductions, to measure where reductions here in our city of the homeless population.

[6:12:54] The county's point of time counter identified 114 homeless individuals in 2024 compared to 44 individuals this year.

[6:13:03] Representing a substantial increase, I believe it's about 62%.

[6:13:08] Well, homelessness remains a complex issue,

[6:13:10] but no single solution.

[6:13:12] This progress demonstrates what can be accomplished

[6:13:14] to consistent power reach a strong partnership

[6:13:17] in coordinating response.

[6:13:22] While this data demonstrates sitting this impact,

[6:13:25] they only took part of the story

[6:13:29] to provide a more personal perspective

[6:13:30] on the meaningful work being done in our community.

[6:13:33] I would like to invite and introduce Andrit Hernandez,

[6:13:37] who is sitting that's L.A. and L.C. team supervisor,

[6:13:40] who we're sure some success or success stories that call the ball comes through this partnership.

[6:13:50] Good to see you.

[6:13:52] Good to see you everyone again. May you're by Sumerier, Council.

[6:13:56] Thank you, Lieutenant.

[6:13:58] So success stories.

[6:14:00] Let's go start with the first one.

[6:14:02] Oh, they're just, yeah.

[6:14:07] You're going to just talk about that.

[6:14:08] Okay.

[6:14:09] So the first success story involved a long-term client,

[6:14:14] usually, like to hang around this area, cause a lot of noise disturbances, including affecting

[6:14:20] a lot of our residents.

[6:14:22] So with this client, of coordination with the police department, we were able to not only

[6:14:30] make many interactions with her and eventually leading her to trust us.

[6:14:36] She eventually was able to successfully enter shelter at the CCNC.

[6:14:42] The first time didn't take granted, we didn't give up, we tried engaging her multiple times until eventually she's still there and she's finding lots of success along with the partnership with Daniel the Director at the CCNC.

[6:15:00] That's only the first one. The second I'd like to share involves a woman farmer believe resident who was currently our was currently battling cancer and living out of their vehicle.

[6:15:14] There's been many attempts with our law enforcement officers to make sure that they were getting the care they needed.

[6:15:21] They did give her a lot of opportunities. She did have a vehicle that was nonoperable and just kind of taking it to space.

[6:15:27] you know, piling a debris, all that sorts of that kind of thing.

[6:15:31] Eventually she did accept resources.

[6:15:33] She was promptly placed into a very stabilized location, again, also a CCNC.

[6:15:41] And I'm sure you all have been communication with Mr. Daniel at CCNC.

[6:15:46] A lot of the residents that we interact with here and refer to the shelter itself find a lot of success.

[6:15:53] out of the three cities are clients, tend to retain their spot there the most.

[6:16:00] The final one is a very recent one that I had privileged to be there myself during the

[6:16:05] shelter transport.

[6:16:08] This resident had, was actually fleeing domestic violence and she found a safe haven in

[6:16:14] the parking lot of the Sam's Club.

[6:16:17] Now obviously, that's not ideal for someone to be living in out of a parking lot with

[6:16:23] all their belongings, hopefully dodging the abuser.

[6:16:29] But she did find success, also at the CCNC,

[6:16:33] not only with continued rapport building

[6:16:36] and getting the trust of this individual

[6:16:38] who for the right reasons was very, very apprehensive

[6:16:41] at the first time, but her and her supportive

[6:16:44] emotional support animal were very appreciative,

[6:16:48] not only to the officers that took the time to engage

[6:16:51] with her and offer solutions to her current dilemma and also impending safety.

[6:16:58] She as soon as she was approved she was super grateful and again I have the privilege to be there

[6:17:04] which I don't have very often being behind the desk most of the time but when during the transport

[6:17:11] of it it just kind of reminded me that this kind of work is very important not only to the residents

[6:17:16] that are suffering from their current situation of homelessness, but also to the residents around

[6:17:22] so that way we make sure that the streets are cleaned up and safe for everybody.

[6:17:28] The final one I want to talk about includes a long-term client that I'm sure everybody at the

[6:17:35] city of Fountain Valley is familiar with. Well that naming names, they were a long-time resident

[6:17:41] of Mao Square Park, particularly on the golf site, finding loopholes to set up a very large

[6:17:49] tent. After about, I want to say a year, which was what we estimated about year and a half,

[6:17:56] they were matched to housing and she, sorry, they are currently going to be moving to an apartment

[6:18:04] complex within the next couple months and that will end the cycle of 20 years of homelessness for her.

[6:18:12] And I was very, very, very fortunate to receive the congratulations letter on their behalf while the team also were CCed on the email and the big moment for us.

[6:18:24] Definitely having the report there over many years, four years to be exact and having her just reject services outright and not having to do one and anything do with us or the police department.

[6:18:37] So there's just a few of the ones that we decided to go with along with the other folks that were highly visible before and I'm open to any questions that y'all might have.

[6:18:50] Thanks so much.

[6:18:51] Any comments?

[6:18:52] Yes.

[6:18:53] We'll go with Councilwoman Constantine first and then.

[6:18:56] Thank you.

[6:18:58] So, Andres.

[6:19:00] The first time I did approve the contract when you guys were new and then last time I did not approve it.

[6:19:05] simply because I wanted the hours to be a little bit more

[6:19:11] to be different somewhat, you know, a little bit of evening coverage,

[6:19:16] a little bit of weekend coverage, and I saw that that was not the case.

[6:19:20] I will, though, yes, this time. I do have faith in you. I have faith in our new

[6:19:24] police chief and everything. I like the way this is all going, and while I do wish,

[6:19:29] we had just a little bit of evening coverage, and maybe a little bit of weekends,

[6:19:33] The program is working well, and that's all that matters.

[6:19:37] Thank you so much.

[6:19:39] Thank you.

[6:19:40] Sure.

[6:19:40] A little bit of a brand.

[6:19:41] I just want to echo that.

[6:19:43] The tremendous work on part of CityNet.

[6:19:47] It's an entire team.

[6:19:51] It's noticeable out there.

[6:19:54] What an impact it's made.

[6:19:56] So I think it's a lot of money.

[6:19:58] It's a big investment from our residents to fund us.

[6:20:02] Um, but I think it's, I think it's worthwhile and then you've done a tremendous, the whole team has done a,

[6:20:09] a tremendous job, so thank you.

[6:20:11] Vice-mahoffer?

[6:20:12] Yeah, I just want to, I just want to point out that it's funded, I think it's fully funded with grants.

[6:20:16] It's grant money, so I don't think it even comes out of the general fund, is that correct?

[6:20:22] Yeah, yeah, so it's, so, you're even better.

[6:20:25] It's in the grant.

[6:20:26] Yeah, it's in the grant.

[6:20:26] I didn't take it as fully funded.

[6:20:28] I didn't take it as fully funded.

[6:20:29] There's a portion.

[6:20:34] Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I think I'd like to thank you to the officers that, you know, you're out there in the back on the front lines every day

[6:20:45] Keeping our keeping our streets clean and helping the people that are that need help out there. So yeah, nice job

[6:20:53] Thank you. That's been great. Yeah, the department we see about here at her in 35,000 for for the year

[6:20:59] 2019 to 2023. I believe for the grant money. My question for you is you say that currently there's about 44

[6:21:09] homeless out there, right? Can you, I mean, I like to take a tour to see where those 44

[6:21:16] count where they're at, throughout the city, on reason why I'm asking that is because I want to find out

[6:21:23] if they are on the county area or in the city area. And if it is on the county area,

[6:21:31] you want to see how we could cooperate with the county and address that. And perhaps on the

[6:21:37] next cycle when you come back, the numbers can be smaller. I can actually shed some insight to

[6:21:45] that. The 44 number was based on that day that was essentially all the volunteers, police department

[6:21:52] and sitting at staff went out in that point in time.

[6:21:58] Homelesses, I think, is fluid, you know, folks in nature are transient, so they will go back and forth between cities.

[6:22:04] So that number of conflicts, wait, it just happened to be that point in time. It was 44, and I would say it's pretty accurate.

[6:22:11] Our officers and our team know where all the hotspots are, including the ones that are not frequently visited, but can have folks at one given time.

[6:22:20] But yeah, we would like to have you along and show you around where most folks like to congregate.

[6:22:26] There are some spots that are definitely at a site out of mind.

[6:22:29] And those are usually the ones that we encounter most folks nowadays.

[6:22:34] Okay, great.

[6:22:35] Yeah.

[6:22:35] All right, let's move to see that.

[6:22:36] Thank you.

[6:22:37] The county is they do full enforcement.

[6:22:40] No overnight period, right?

[6:22:42] So I wouldn't expect it to be too many.

[6:22:44] The county side you talk in Moscow, Park.

[6:22:47] Correct.

[6:22:47] I can't attest to the partnership also. While our team has been outreaching within

[6:22:52] mouse square, they have to notice more presence from the Sheriff's Department in the

[6:22:56] county side. So I can't share that. Unfortunately our team members had a leave. They were

[6:23:02] reaching the 12th hour. However, they could be here to attestify that as well.

[6:23:13] I'll move to approve.

[6:23:13] A second.

[6:23:16] Yeah, I just want to say thank you for coming out here this morning.

[6:23:19] Thank you for everything that you do.

[6:23:24] One of the highlights of the past year for me was to go on a ride along with Officer

[6:23:30] Daniel Shaw and see firsthand the work that you all do and until you see it and experience

[6:23:39] it, it doesn't quite have that impact but taking all of those actions together, we're seeing

[6:23:47] results and it's because of you all so thanks for everything you do for making our city

[6:23:53] safer and just better. Okay thank you it's boat

[6:24:05] we go. I had a number of 15 passes

[6:24:09] five zero. Thank you very much. Have a good morning.

[6:24:15] Okay next is item 16 approval of

[6:24:18] surface contracts for police telling services for a period of five years be

[6:24:21] beginning July 1st, 2026 to June 30th, 2031, with an option of two additional one-year extensions,

[6:24:30] presentation by police sergeant Jennifer Pratt. Welcome. This is for towing the police or police towing.

[6:24:38] Police towing.

[6:24:41] Some of them like that. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning.

[6:24:47] So this is our RFP that we put out, the background in the purpose was the police

[6:24:53] towing contract that we currently have expires on June 30th, 2026.

[6:24:59] This is the city put out an RFP on April 2nd, 2026 and the objective of the RFP was to locate

[6:25:07] and provide qualified towing operators to provide police-directed towing and services on a

[6:25:13] of basis. Currently what we do is we have toe services from one company from the first

[6:25:19] or the 15th and then on the 15th that's which is and we use the second company for the second

[6:25:23] half of the month. So the services must comply with the found out in your spokeode and also with

[6:25:29] the found belly toe policy guidelines and requirements. The procurement went out. We had six companies

[6:25:35] look at the RAP for companies submitted proposals and the evaluation that we submitted to you

[6:25:41] was based on the approach to plans, qualifications, and the past performance.

[6:25:47] Ultimately, our facility inspections, we evaluated the following criteria.

[6:25:52] It was based on their total yard location, outdoor storage capacity, indoor storage capabilities, security and surveillance, vehicle damage,

[6:26:01] inspection resources, customer service, and operational readiness.

[6:26:05] The final results that we came up with were the two companies that scored the highest

[6:26:10] G and W towing in Southside towing. Our request is that the staff will approve.

[6:26:16] Our staff request that the council approve their proposal for the two companies G and W on

[6:26:22] Southside.

[6:26:30] Are there any requests to speak on the side? We have five requests to speak

[6:26:41] Kelly Moses.

[6:26:53] Good evening.

[6:26:54] Thank you so much for having me.

[6:26:56] My name is Kelly Moses, and I'm the owner of best-towing service.

[6:26:59] I'm here today to address the approval of the service contract for police towing services.

[6:27:04] Best towing has provided the city of Fountain Valley with the police directed towing services

[6:27:08] for the past 40 years.

[6:27:10] We recently submitted our proposal and I see on the agenda tonight that the recommendation

[6:27:14] is for south side towing and G&W towing to be a war at the contract.

[6:27:19] This would be devastating to our business.

[6:27:22] We have the staff, the equipment, and the storage already in place to continue with our services.

[6:27:28] To lose this contract will mean we will have to sell equipment and do layoffs.

[6:27:32] The significance of losing this contract will destroy us.

[6:27:36] I want to bring it to your attention, a fact that has been overlooked.

[6:27:39] The minimum requirement is for the business office to be located within a five-mile radius of the Fountain Valley PD at 1-0-200 Slater Avenue.

[6:27:47] Southside towing does not meet that requirement, therefore they should not receive any further consideration.

[6:27:55] I also want to address the scoring for inside stores GNW towing and Southside Bull scored a 173.33 and best scored 73.33.

[6:28:06] Secured evidence and hold and GNW and Southside Bull scored 180, best towing scored 40.

[6:28:14] I believe these scores are incorrect and best towing should be re-evaluated.

[6:28:18] The large gap between scores tells me they're had to be of a stake.

[6:28:22] Best towing serves as located at 7472 Warner for the past 30 years, and we have provided

[6:28:27] the contracted towing services for a Fountain Valley PD.

[6:28:30] We have never had a single problem with being able to store any vehicle inside or outside

[6:28:36] and evidence.

[6:28:37] Best towing service meets all the requirements related to storage.

[6:28:40] We have 24 hour a day on-site personnel, block walls with razor wire, electric security gates, 24 hour videos, railings.

[6:28:47] There's a log of every person that enters our secured light and individuals are escorting their vehicles and are never left unattended in order to preserve the evidence vehicles.

[6:28:57] Southside does not have inside evidence storage available at their business office.

[6:29:02] It is off site, which I believe they do not have personnel at that location 24 hours a day.

[6:29:07] We have one centrally located business so it is much quicker and easier for a person to retrieve their vehicle

[6:29:13] rather than having to go to multiple locations like Southside.

[6:29:17] In addition to the meeting all the requirements I believe the services we have provided the city

[6:29:21] a fountain valley for the past 40 years should be considered.

[6:29:25] We have always maintained a professional working environment and have done nothing that would warrant us not to be granted this contract.

[6:29:33] We are always open to making any adjustments requested by the PD.

[6:29:37] We have never been asked to make any additional, any additions or changes to our facility

[6:29:42] and the storage of our cars.

[6:29:43] That is why I am so shocked to hear the scores that we were given and our facility being

[6:29:48] the reason that we have not been recommended to award this contract.

[6:29:52] I am asking for you to not vote on this matter tonight and to review the facts that I have

[6:29:57] brought to your attention and for the committee.

[6:29:59] I am so excited.

[6:30:00] The recommendations.

[6:30:03] Madison Moses,

[6:30:11] welcome.

[6:30:13] Hi, Mayor, and council members. I'm Madison Moses, the daughter of the business owner, Kelly Moses. I'm also an active member of the Community of Fountain Valley.

[6:30:23] I'm a substitute teacher in the school district. I wanted to be here tonight to support what is being presented to you.

[6:30:30] You have been informed that Southside Tone does not meet the minimum requirement.

[6:30:34] And if you look on page 749, toe operators should submit documentation to meet the following

[6:30:42] minimum requirements.

[6:30:43] All requirements must be met at the time of proposal.

[6:30:47] If these requirements are not met, the proposal may not receive further consideration.

[6:30:53] I have printed out photos for you to physically see the five mile radius in green.

[6:30:58] You can see south side towing is located far south side of Costa Mesa boardering Newport Beach.

[6:31:06] This is it if you want to see, but it is in Costa Mesa Newport Beach.

[6:31:11] I have also printed close-ups of their border.

[6:31:17] The fountain valley police department is located here where we are.

[6:31:22] And you can see that the five mile radius in green is clearly shows that FEPD is outside of the five mile radius, which will automatically disqualify them.

[6:31:35] This requirement is very important because we need to respond quickly within 20 minutes.

[6:31:40] Being that far out of this city will make it nearly impossible to make that ETA.

[6:31:45] The business is a family business and it was started by my grandpa.

[6:31:49] It means a lot to our family, but not only our families, the families that are employed by us.

[6:31:55] I grew up going to this company and seeing these workers, and they have become part of our family.

[6:32:01] And without this business and without this contract, you're not just putting my family at risk, but a lot of others.

[6:32:09] So I ask you to please see the dedication and commitment that best-toing service has given to the City of Fountain Valley for over 40 years

[6:32:16] and that you will continue to be a part of our success.

[6:32:20] I would recommend to the mayor and city council members to recognize

[6:32:23] Southside does not meet the minimum requirement, and therefore should be taken out of consideration

[6:32:29] of being awarded the towing contract.

[6:32:32] And since I have more time, the numbers just really don't make sense when you look at them.

[6:32:38] I feel like it's worth looking back and re-evaluating the site and just giving us another

[6:32:47] chance.

[6:32:48] This would really be detrimental to a lot of people in the community.

[6:32:53] Thank you.

[6:32:57] Thank you.

[6:33:06] Thank you.

[6:33:07] Good to see you.

[6:33:10] Can't Hammond over?

[6:33:16] Welcome.

[6:33:19] Thank you.

[6:33:19] Arnold Merra and members of the City Council.

[6:33:23] My name is Kent Hammond.

[6:33:25] I'm a manager of best-towing service.

[6:33:28] I've worked for this amazing company for the past 20 years.

[6:33:32] I'm here today to request best-towing via water

[6:33:35] of the fountainbelly-towing contract based on our past performance over

[6:33:40] the 40 years we have held the contract.

[6:33:44] We have always supported Found Valley PD and consistently provided exceptional service to the patrons of Found Valley.

[6:33:52] We are an ethical company that is committed to performing at the highest level.

[6:34:00] If we were to lose the opportunity to be awarded the Toing Contract, it will significantly affect the loyal employees of best-towing service.

[6:34:09] Many of our employees have been with us for 20 years.

[6:34:14] They know the police officers, which allows us a great working relationship.

[6:34:20] We have put our heart and soul into best-towing service as an employee

[6:34:24] I can say that this is the best company I've ever worked for.

[6:34:29] And I would hate to see the destruction this company will endure if we lose our

[6:34:39] So heart-preserved over the many years we have provided service.

[6:34:45] I truly believe awarding best-towing the contract will not only be a benefit found valid

[6:34:52] police department based on the longstanding great working relationship,

[6:34:57] in addition to being able to continue providing service

[6:35:01] and meeting all the requirements set forth by the city.

[6:35:06] We are also the only AAA contractor that serves as Found Valley, the City of Found Valley.

[6:35:15] So when there's an accident or a stranded vehicle in the city, and they are a AAA member,

[6:35:21] we are the tow company that's called.

[6:35:27] Sorry about that.

[6:35:31] Best time is also closest company to one zero, two zero zero slater.

[6:35:39] This building were 2.7 miles away, south side is further than five miles, as a crow flies.

[6:35:53] This allowed even to be eligible to be awarded the contract in almost 10 miles driving.

[6:36:01] We have worked without incident in providing safe and secure facility and storage.

[6:36:06] Our facility is always met and exceeded the requirements of city and I know that Kelly would do anything

[6:36:14] for PD request to improve our facility.

[6:36:19] We will do anything not to lose this contract.

[6:36:22] I am asking the mayor and city council members not to approve the recommendations awarded.

[6:36:28] Can't your time's up, I'm sorry.

[6:36:30] Dave Moses.

[6:36:40] Thank you.

[6:36:41] Good morning.

[6:36:43] Mayor and honorable council members, thank you for allowing me this time and staying out this

[6:36:48] late.

[6:36:50] I realize that this is well past.

[6:36:52] My bed time as well is probably most of yours as well, but let me get to the matter.

[6:36:59] I'm Kelly's husband.

[6:37:01] I also work at best telling, I watch John Bond who is my wife's husband and the best father-in-law

[6:37:09] a man could ever have build this company and he built it right beside you guys for 40 years.

[6:37:17] He was working with you guys going out of his house in the middle of the night picking up cars

[6:37:23] so that people in fountain valley are safe and secure and working hand in hand with both the police

[6:37:29] department and the fire department. So we're reliable, we're trustworthy, we're carrying business

[6:37:37] that we are today then John got cancer and he fought it and he turned over the business to

[6:37:44] his daughter and me watching my wife step in and take control of best. It let John fight his cancer

[6:37:54] and inevitably he lost that fight and we have taken on a best tone and her capable hands and just

[6:38:04] seen her work side by side with both Triple A, Fountain Valley, CHP and Huntington Beach Police

[6:38:12] Department, whom we've had relationships with for over 35 years with those departments

[6:38:19] as well.

[6:38:22] To lose this contract would be devastating to us.

[6:38:26] We just hired two new employees.

[6:38:29] We bought two new trucks.

[6:38:30] We have the newest fleet in all of the area.

[6:38:35] We work with AAA and they tell us time and time again.

[6:38:38] How do you guys do it?

[6:38:39] How do you get no equipment?

[6:38:41] How do you put money back in to both Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley?

[6:38:47] It's because we care.

[6:38:49] It's because we care about the citizens of Fountain Valley

[6:38:53] and we want the best for them and we love working with you guys.

[6:38:58] Over the past 40 years, we've never had a disciplinary action taken against this.

[6:39:04] We've never had a problem with the Fountain Valley Police Department, the Huntington Beach

[6:39:08] Police Department, the CHP.

[6:39:11] So I just can't get my head around how we didn't get the contract, how the numbers are

[6:39:21] so different from the other two companies that haven't done it for 40 years.

[6:39:26] We have the same property, we have the same evidence looms, you know, that the thing is

[6:39:36] Sussite does not meet the minimum requirements that you guys set.

[6:39:41] They are not within five miles.

[6:39:43] They are ten miles driving to where you guys are at,

[6:39:47] Dave, you're talking about that.

[6:39:49] Right down the road.

[6:39:51] So please take in consideration the 40 years that we've served together.

[6:39:59] I

[6:40:13] have no further request to speak.

[6:40:15] Okay, thank you.

[6:40:17] Oh, a little bit up to council comments.

[6:40:24] Vice-meroper?

[6:40:26] Yeah, I would like to, I guess,

[6:40:31] request the evaluators, the foot from the police maybe.

[6:40:41] So, on the scoring of the proposals,

[6:40:44] I'm just trying to get to that page.

[6:40:48] Yeah, it looks like page 743 of the agenda,

[6:40:54] page 3 of the staff report,

[6:40:58] if you could

[6:40:59] maybe.

[6:40:59] I don't have that with you.

[6:41:00] Can you put that up on the screen?

[6:41:18] That's on page 743 of the staff report,

[6:41:37] so I do agree, they do bring up an interesting

[6:41:40] point.

[6:41:41] If you look at the center column with the scores, the inside storage says 173, then 73,

[6:41:47] the other ones 173 that secured evidence is 180 40 and 180 so it does it does look a little

[6:41:59] strange is kind of looking at it not knowing anything about it do you I mean are you have

[6:42:04] you had a chance to review the scoring and kind of verify those numbers are accurate or

[6:42:11] So there were three evaluators that conducted these numbers.

[6:42:17] I can speak for mine and in speaking with the other ones and yes, we verified these.

[6:42:22] They were all reviewed and it was done in a fair and impartial process.

[6:42:29] We evaluated each of the documents that were submitted by each company and like I said,

[6:42:36] it was based on the criteria that they gave.

[6:42:39] Okay, and what about the I guess five mile radius excuse me the five mile radius quite criteria. If you go that's on page

[6:42:51] 740 let's see where

[6:42:55] it is 749

[6:43:00] So the the way that it's worded is says that the business needs to be within five miles of fountain valley police department

[6:43:11] the business office. Yeah, there you go. Um, when we spoke to,

[6:43:22] I'm sorry, uh,

[6:43:24] south side, Tony. No, well, south side, Tony. Yes, but when we spoke to, uh,

[6:43:29] Amanda, when we put out the RFP, we verified that it was okay because by

[6:43:33] way the crow flies, the distance from the city of Vountain Valley to both G and W and to south

[6:43:39] side is by miles from the city of found valley.

[6:43:43] Yeah, according to my Google maps, it's actually more than five miles.

[6:43:48] So I don't know if that would necessarily

[6:43:51] disqualify the proposal or not.

[6:43:53] Is it from City Hall or is it from anywhere from the city?

[6:43:58] And we've any part of that was okay that their business

[6:44:01] office from the city of found valley was because we actually

[6:44:08] I'm questioning whether Google was the driving route or as the way the crow flies which is

[6:44:12] direct in over any building straight line between two points and apparently the purchasing

[6:44:17] officer is interpreted as by the way the crow flies. So if you draw a five mile circle around FEPD

[6:44:22] any business falling within that circle would qualify. Yeah, I think they're outside the circle.

[6:44:28] That's my.

[6:44:29] That's my.

[6:44:31] P.D.

[6:44:31] So, yes, I see.

[6:44:33] So, so my.

[6:44:36] Our understanding.

[6:44:37] It was accepted by the purchasing director and we asked if it was within the city.

[6:44:44] Um, because it was with with.

[6:44:46] With by miles of the city.

[6:44:48] Um, I think.

[6:44:50] Whether that was the city of Mountain Valley or the city.

[6:44:53] So they're looking at Garfield and Brookhurst not city hall. Okay, but I'm just pointing out

[6:45:00] In the RFP, that's kind of what it says. Correct. I understand what you're saying. What you're asking when we asked for clarification, the understanding that we got back was it was by way of the crow flies. It was within five miles of the city.

[6:45:15] Our contract we went through with that. And again, after reviewing everything.

[6:45:22] With all of the other criteria, even that one excluded, we still felt that Southside and

[6:45:32] GNW provided better service for what we were looking for and could better suit the needs

[6:45:41] of the city of Fountain Valley at this time.

[6:45:43] Okay.

[6:45:47] You know the questions. Yeah. I was looking at the chart actually you know full for all

[6:45:55] best-towing performance is not that bad for example in the procurement

[6:46:00] that which is up for 742. There were second, right? I'm sorry.

[6:46:07] The page 742. Okay. On the on the procurement. Okay. So best-towing perform pretty well. They came in second.

[6:46:16] But then we, when you go down to, to, to, to, uh,

[6:46:20] Vice Mayor Harper points is where the lack performance is really in the

[6:46:27] operation and facilitated security, uh, security, uh, above that,

[6:46:31] which is security in evidence home. My question would be, the years that they've been

[6:46:37] circused the city of Farn Valley, has that any really issue with,

[6:46:42] Secure evidence that's been on hold.

[6:46:46] So if they never had an issue, so how's it important to the evaluator?

[6:46:52] Scoring.

[6:46:54] So they have then I could see the legal aspect of it.

[6:46:59] Yeah. Okay.

[6:47:01] Would it be commit to improve that? So next time it would be better on the evaluator?

[6:47:07] That's more important if they have historical data that lead me to believe that it is a concerning

[6:47:14] because they have record that it's that create an issue.

[6:47:18] But if they don't have a record, it's a management of the business that they need to improve.

[6:47:24] That's only thing, but over that, that's where we live where the score will be dropped.

[6:47:32] In that aspect, and of course, in science storage.

[6:47:34] That's a little bit, you know, do a bit to some house cleaning in the business to sort it out.

[6:47:39] Like in an improvisation?

[6:47:41] Yeah, yeah.

[6:47:42] I'm sure.

[6:47:43] Okay.

[6:47:44] So the inside storage was in the secure and evidence hold was the concern for us.

[6:47:49] Obviously, we deal with security and chain of custody.

[6:47:53] We deal with the DA's office.

[6:47:55] So anytime we have a fatal traffic collision, that becomes a concern for us.

[6:47:59] both G and W and Southside towing have more up-to-date and secure, secure storage, meaning that in order to access their secure storage or their evidence storage,

[6:48:13] there is a lockpad process to get through that. There's a chain of custody where you have to sign in and out everything is tracked.

[6:48:21] They have more room for evidence storage. We're not competing with spaces in such a limited space.

[6:48:26] Unfortunately, best only has six bases available that we share with

[6:48:32] CHP and Huntington Beach, G&W, and Sausside.

[6:48:36] They offer more storage and availability for us when we have fatal traffic collisions or evidence

[6:48:41] hold for the detectives and security and chain of custody were huge problems for us that we needed to make sure that we were addressing.

[6:48:50] It's a liability issue, as I'm sure you can understand.

[6:48:54] We don't want to lose criminal cases, because the chain of custody isn't properly

[6:48:59] followed.

[6:49:01] I guess at this point, I'm glad to ask you the question back to our city attorney as the

[6:49:05] requirements and rules on the five-mile radius, right, because they clearly fall outside

[6:49:14] that requirement rules. So if we approve this, we pretty much are not following the

[6:49:21] word self. So what's your thought on that? So the RFP says shall be within five miles

[6:49:26] of found out by police department. That's a must. It's a

[6:49:30] youth. It's a shell. So technically to me, the salad with his out, the rules

[6:49:36] to show. So that's a must. So we can't. Again, the staff came back and said,

[6:49:48] as of this within

[6:49:49] the city of Mount Valley. So that's the way it was interpreted not city hall. Yeah, it does

[6:49:58] say the end of the first program so that if these requirements are not met, the proposal may not

[6:50:03] see further consideration, but then it says has determined the sole discretion of the city,

[6:50:10] which I soon would give us something leeway, although it's kind of contradictory.

[6:50:16] Yeah, this isn't a public works contract, but we're stuck within the very narrow confines

[6:50:21] of how we can bid. The issue is if we make an exception for that, have we missed other bidters

[6:50:26] that would have bid, knowing that they could have bid six miles away, six and a half miles away.

[6:50:31] Those are the policy considerations to think about.

[6:50:34] Well, at the same time, we cannot overlook our police and their needs and situations that have been apparently arising here.

[6:50:46] Are we hearing that?

[6:50:49] I understand.

[6:50:50] I appreciate that.

[6:50:52] It's number one, above anything else, their experiences and their needs and requirements

[6:51:02] because we don't need any liability here.

[6:51:07] Well, it's very interesting.

[6:51:09] We have very interesting situations because we have rules within the five miles, right?

[6:51:14] And then, of course, we here to support a law enforcement.

[6:51:16] we don't want to live it. That's for sure. But at the same time, you know, we also have

[6:51:21] another rules that we suppose to support business owners that are in five by. Right? Obviously,

[6:51:28] this company is following that rule as well. I guess perhaps a way to compromise if there's a commitment

[6:51:37] from the applicant who's here tonight, past midnight.

[6:51:43] If they're willing to improve

[6:51:46] And that's so address our city council staff. I'm not sure how that works. I see how she's shaking her head

[6:51:55] It doesn't now

[6:51:57] So if I can make a few

[6:52:01] Excuse me excuse me sir, so let me make a few comments kind of what just to kind of put us where we're at right now in the agenda

[6:52:09] So what we have before us a procurement process

[6:52:13] We have a procedure with our police department, that procurement process has been executed

[6:52:19] according to policy.

[6:52:22] We have a contract before us right now.

[6:52:25] There may be a bid protest ability for a party that was not successful to have a protest

[6:52:35] process, but that's not what we're doing right now.

[6:52:39] We're evaluating what the police department is giving us.

[6:52:44] And there may be a way for a

[6:52:49] proposal who was unsuccessful to get a debriefing from the police department.

[6:52:55] So you might want to think about that.

[6:52:56] That's always, that's always available to a company that isn't successful.

[6:53:02] So my thinking at this point is they've gone through their process.

[6:53:09] I trust their process at the police department.

[6:53:13] But there are opportunities for those firms that are not successful to find out why.

[6:53:20] And so what I encourage any party that doesn't win,

[6:53:25] contract is to go through that process first.

[6:53:28] And so those are my thoughts at this point.

[6:53:32] I trust the process and I want to make a motion to approve.

[6:53:35] I did number 16.

[6:53:39] So when I have a little bit more discussion before.

[6:53:40] That's fine.

[6:53:41] I think the mayor is sort of framed the issue correctly and although I understand you may not agree with

[6:53:52] the outcome there are I guess remedies that you can pursue if you're not if you don't agree with it.

[6:54:07] I guess my feeling on this, too, is that if the best telling has been here for 40 years

[6:54:15] and our police department is not supporting their renewal, there's got to be a bigger

[6:54:24] reason. I have a feeling that everything is being said tonight for whatever reason.

[6:54:32] I think

[6:54:33] It's pretty clear the place department wants the two companies that won the bid so I will support it as well

[6:54:44] Okay, I'll second this.

[6:54:49] I'd like to see if our city attorney next time we really need to do something about the qualifications and requirements. I mean

[6:54:59] We need to be really firm reference to how we got apply the rules

[6:55:03] because this is, for example, down the road, I'm concerned about the exceptions that we don't

[6:55:10] fall into the teeth to the rules, and that means we could break other rules down the road.

[6:55:15] Because you were saying, you've done it before.

[6:55:20] It can't remember, I don't understand it because we just went over this thing about the

[6:55:23] crow flying.

[6:55:25] Am I not correct on that?

[6:55:27] So that has already been put aside.

[6:55:30] There's nothing wrong.

[6:55:31] It's actually that's not correct.

[6:55:33] It's not as the crow flies.

[6:55:34] the exception, the exception is that it's not city hall, it's anywhere within five miles

[6:55:42] of Mount Valley, and I would assume Brookhurst and Garfield would be the award and Garfield,

[6:55:48] as a closest point to where they are, and that's within five miles, even though city hall

[6:55:55] is not.

[6:55:55] Is there anything in my correct in that assumption or no?

[6:55:59] I don't know where the measurement was from. I was just told that if that's

[6:56:04] what it was told is, we could do it because it was within five miles.

[6:56:11] Yeah, so there's been no improprieties and the police have done an evaluation. I mean, these are

[6:56:16] police. And I trust in them. So no one say here, no one trusts them. I'm saying that the rules,

[6:56:24] the rules we have to see what are the rules. And the rules clearly say right here, five miles from

[6:56:29] the family puts the department. That's where the rule apply. I'm not saying we're not

[6:56:35] trusting. So if we are not going to follow this rule, so what are we going to do

[6:56:40] it perhaps? I understand that there are some concern evidence, storage, and all that. I

[6:56:45] can play understand what you're saying. But my point is if we break one rule, we have to

[6:56:52] be, how we go, oh, the situation down the road that we go break other rules.

[6:57:00] That's my point.

[6:57:03] Okay, we've got a first and a second. Just just like the officers, you know, when they have some wool, they have to apply the wool. They can't break it.

[6:57:12] Well, I don't believe it's been broken. Thank you.

[6:57:14] Excuse me, here are five miles.

[6:57:16] I'm not going to ask.

[6:57:17] Let's vote.

[6:57:18] Yeah, please vote.

[6:57:33] I'm pushing, yes.

[6:57:34] I'm just being on countermeasure.

[6:57:36] Oh, yeah, I'm struggling.

[6:57:41] On the rules.

[6:57:42] And vote now,

[6:57:50] and for me, I understand the evaluators, I do really want, I mean, I support the law enforcement, but I'm not performing up big rules with rules or rules, and then if this is not the rule that we must rewrite the rules, that it's not within the five miles radius from the police department, we have to change that.

[6:58:15] You can't break the home.

[6:58:17] But

[6:58:20] we need control.

[6:58:23] Yeah.

[6:58:23] So now we have a decision with our board.

[6:58:26] We're going to continue the vote.

[6:58:28] Please.

[6:58:29] How was that fair?

[6:58:32] Council member, are you voting?

[6:58:34] He voted.

[6:58:35] Okay.

[6:58:35] Item number 16 passes.

[6:58:39] Four one.

[6:58:40] Thank you.

[6:58:40] And as I mentioned I encourage any party who was not successful,

[6:58:43] reach out for a debriefing.

[6:58:45] Thank you.

[6:58:48] Okay.

[6:58:49] Moving on item 17.

[6:58:50] Approved amendment number two to contract number

[6:58:57] I'm going to I'm going to pause while we have

[6:59:02] Chamber clear

[6:59:07] Okay,

[6:59:14] when we move on item 17 improve amendment number two to contract number 21 dash 35 for the tennis and pickleball concession agreement

[6:59:22] The Fountain Valley Sports Park presentation by Deputy City Manager, Community Services Director,

[6:59:28] Rob Frasil.

[6:59:28] Good morning.

[6:59:29] Thank you so much.

[6:59:30] It is a good morning.

[6:59:33] Mayor Kineen and Council Member Sanky for the opportunity.

[6:59:36] Tonight we'll be presenting the proposed amendment number two to contract 2135 for the

[6:59:41] Tennis and Pickleball Concession Agreement at the Fountain Valley Sports Park with me tonight

[6:59:45] is Amy Pazonek and she is the owner of a Goppy Tennis Academy.

[6:59:50] Okay, can we table this to the next meeting maybe, since it's only, let's go ahead.

[6:59:57] Oh boy.

[7:00:00] That was a good one. It's late. It took me a while to get it. Amy is available. Should there be any questions? Or if she would like to make any comments, you did see in the staff report that she submitted a letter of interest to the city for the extension and amendment number two. On the screen here, you can see the beautiful found valley sports park tennis and pickleball center. Unfortunately, this isn't the newest picture, because all four of those courts on the left hand side there.

[7:00:29] closest to brokers are all now dedicated pickleball courts that any time you drive by there

[7:00:35] you can definitely see everybody out there enjoying the courts.

[7:00:40] So quickly to go over the term of this agreement, the concession agreement with the

[7:00:44] Gapet tennis Academy, if she'll be three years from the date of execution, July 20th,

[7:00:49] 2021 was when we expected a Gapet tennis Academy and not to keep us here any longer, but

[7:00:55] it was a little bit of a funny story, we actually had to call and make sure Amy knew there

[7:00:59] in a fountain valley in Georgia when she applied for the tennis

[7:01:02] concession. We did. We asked Amanda a purchasing officer. Can you

[7:01:08] call her make sure she knows where she's applying? And she's definitely was

[7:01:11] aware it was something California wanted to be out here. And we we

[7:01:16] appreciate she she made the journey out here and she's had terrific success in

[7:01:20] Southern California and has now gained the concession of a number other

[7:01:25] 10 of the facilities in Southern California.

[7:01:29] So on the term of the agreement, the city reserves

[7:01:31] to write the right to exercise the option to renew

[7:01:33] by annually, not to exceed a maximum of seven years.

[7:01:38] And with this amendment, we're recommending exercising

[7:01:42] and they're available to your concession agreement

[7:01:44] from July 20, 2026 through July 19, 2028.

[7:01:50] Just a quick snapshot of kind of the overall performance

[7:01:53] of the concessionary since they started August 2021 through July 2022. They had revenue of $736,000.

[7:02:02] Regular patrons of tennis pickable and special events of just under 10,000 people and had 12 staff.

[7:02:11] And they are on pace for August of 2025 through the end of this fiscal year to bring in just under $1.4 million.

[7:02:18] dollars and expect to have over 30,000 regular participants and have 26 staff.

[7:02:26] So, you can see there's been terrific success over the first five years of this contract.

[7:02:33] Just briefly, a couple of highlights of the amazing things the Gopper has been able to do.

[7:02:39] Coach Amy and a number of her head pros were all certified by the Global Professional Tennis Coaches Association,

[7:02:46] which was also held here at the City of Found Valley.

[7:02:49] They were a speaker for the Racket Sports Professional Association of Southern California

[7:02:53] and a keynote speaker at the International Racket Records Conference

[7:02:57] with the tennis registry and professional pickleball registry

[7:03:01] and 2024 they hosted an actual ESPN pickleball madness tournament

[7:03:07] getting national exposure for the City of Found Valley.

[7:03:10] And in 2023, Agape was selected as the National Public Provider of the Year by the Professional

[7:03:17] Pickleball Registry, so that's a really awesome stuff.

[7:03:21] And in 2022, she was also a top 15 leader from the Chamber of Commerce in the City of

[7:03:26] Found Valley and also awarded the City of Kindness Award.

[7:03:34] Just briefly, they offer programs for seniors, youth, young adults, adults with special

[7:03:39] needs disadvantaged groups, naturally diverse and inclusive staff attracts diverse

[7:03:44] clientele that is reflective of our community.

[7:03:47] Free and discounted offerings is something that's important.

[7:03:51] They offer that through grand openings, appreciation days, holidays, free classes and free

[7:03:55] course times, partnerships, local businesses and schools and organizations, and continue

[7:04:00] to market and looking for new players.

[7:04:02] Obviously, you see the growth from 9,000 to over 30,000 that's doing well.

[7:04:07] Financial aid, do the positive performance we do recommend to move forward with the additional

[7:04:11] two years at the direction of Council at this year's strategic plan.

[7:04:16] We did negotiate a 4.3 CPI increase for the year six of the contract and a 5.8 CPI increase for

[7:04:24] year seven of the contract.

[7:04:25] If the final two year approval extension is approved, it will be over a 26% increase over the term

[7:04:34] of the entire contract.

[7:04:38] So the actual financials in the agreement is $71,400 for year six and $75,600 for

[7:04:46] year seven.

[7:04:48] And lastly, in the letter that Amy did share with interest in City of Found Valley at the

[7:04:54] conclusion or during this to your agreement, she would love to engage with the city at the

[7:05:04] program investment through possibly the Parks Master Plan and other means to have a long

[7:05:10] term agreement with the City of Found Valley because I'll speak for her. She continually

[7:05:14] tells us how much she loves and her team loves being in the City of Found Valley and we

[7:05:19] appreciate having you here. And with that, I'm open to any questions and our recommendation

[7:05:23] is to move the second amendment.

[7:05:28] Thanks so much.

[7:05:31] Any questions from Council?

[7:05:34] I just want to say that it's such night and day comparison to our past providers to now.

[7:05:43] It's been a phenomenal job.

[7:05:47] I can't say enough good things and we'll happily move this item.

[7:05:54] Any other discussion?

[7:05:55] Yeah, yeah, I want a little bit some discussions before you vote on this one. I know it's late. I want to go home too.

[7:06:03] I need to go ahead. I'm sorry. I've noticed that for the year 27 and 28. They didn't make any projected revenue. They put the same number. Why is that?

[7:06:22] Oh, is that in the software board?

[7:06:24] We didn't ask for projections in for the next two years.

[7:06:27] We just asked for projections through 2026, the end of this calendar year, to compare to the previous years.

[7:06:34] What do you mean, I mean, ideally is, maybe we extend to more years, you should have that projections.

[7:06:43] Because to your point, earlier that, you asked you to raise on the CPI.

[7:06:48] But if I looked from the time that they came on board with a city, back then the revenue was

[7:06:59] 736,000 with a fees share with a city was 8.1, but as the year goes by, they increased, like I've said last time,

[7:07:13] to, for this year, 26.1.3, 9.1 millions, their fees are percentage revenue to the city

[7:07:21] decrease to 4.9. To me, it's, I know you try hard on the CPI, but the more money they make,

[7:07:29] the less we'll make the percentage wise. So to me, it doesn't make sense. As a policy maker, it's either

[7:07:38] you stay the same rate or you increase what it couldn't see that but we went back

[7:07:44] word. I know on their staff report they hired 26 people. I don't I went out there

[7:07:51] I don't know where are those 26 people or staff where they at. There's never a time

[7:07:56] there's more I never seen any time on out there. I see like 10 staff. The most I've seen

[7:08:03] is like 3-4. So I don't know how are they having 26 tasks just for a small.

[7:08:10] Well, it is a 7-day week operation, so not all staff will be working on a single day.

[7:08:15] I understand, but when you think about it, it's 26 sounds a lot, but it's probably 26

[7:08:19] couple hours. Yeah, so I kind of want to know really, I think that's how they justify it

[7:08:26] because we have costs. Well, there might be 26, but 26 part-time, or where they're working

[7:08:31] really. And thank you for being here so we appreciate

[7:08:34] you. Hey everybody, Amy Pads and Henning, the CEO of OGOP810

[7:08:38] is the Academy. Yeah, to answer that question, we absolutely

[7:08:40] have 26 staff, because that includes me, our COO or HR

[7:08:44] director who aren't on site, but are also helping to run the

[7:08:47] operation here, as well as a lot of part-time people. We actually

[7:08:52] probably have more than 26 staff if you're including our

[7:08:55] summer helpers as well. So that's absolutely an accurate number

[7:08:59] between part-time and then like myself and as I just mentioned, the HR director and the COO.

[7:09:08] Okay, yeah, I think that's all I have, like I said, my concern is the profit-shank

[7:09:14] diversity, it gets smaller as they increase, so that's concerning for me.

[7:09:20] I understand.

[7:09:22] Okay, thank you.

[7:09:23] So we have a first-in-a-second, please vote.

[7:09:36] I had him 17 passes 5-0.

[7:09:39] Okay, thank you.

[7:09:40] We'll move on to item 18.

[7:09:42] Approve resolutions relating to the calling of the November 3rd,

[7:09:46] 2026, General Municipal Election,

[7:09:49] presentation by City Clerk Rick Miller.

[7:09:55] Since I have item 18 and 19,

[7:09:57] this one should be fairly quick.

[7:09:58] The only reason it's here is just so I can show this one slide.

[7:10:03] So remember this is the public.

[7:10:04] Yes, these are the three resolutions that we present to you

[7:10:09] every evening of the year, right around this time,

[7:10:11] calling for the election, having the registrar of voters conduct the election for us,

[7:10:17] and setting the amount of words used in a candidate statement had 200 words.

[7:10:26] So, yes.

[7:10:27] I was saying, like a luggage tank or something, I was trying to be creative.

[7:10:37] Okay.

[7:10:41] Anyway, just for the public awareness in the resolutions, candidates that are choosing

[7:10:48] to run for City Council can pull their nomination papers starting July 13th, which is a Monday

[7:10:53] till Friday, August 7th, 2026, all people must be turned in to me prior to August 7th.

[7:11:00] If an incumbent does not file by the August 7th deadline, we will get extended five calendar days,

[7:11:06] Which would make it August 12th being our deadline. If anybody is interested in running

[7:11:12] They can contact me in my phone number and email address are there and

[7:11:18] But that I

[7:11:19] Happy to answer any questions

[7:11:22] Are there any questions from council? I do actually on page 819

[7:11:30] Monday, you'll laugh it's it's

[7:11:51] uh, 900

[7:11:54] But Recon, just because we're waiting on the other thing, but if a council member, if an incumbent doesn't pull papers by the six,

[7:12:04] how would that doesn't apply?

[7:12:07] That's only if an incumbent isn't going to run.

[7:12:11] Well, then that's why not pulling papers that would mean you're not running and all three incumbents are eligible to run.

[7:12:18] Right. So if it was not able to run, and that person did not pull papers, that doesn't qualify.

[7:12:25] Right. Go, Jack.

[7:12:31] Okay.

[7:12:32] All right, pitch eight, nineteen.

[7:12:35] The area where you set resolution calling for the elections for the office,

[7:12:40] for the office of two members.

[7:12:43] I think it should have been three members.

[7:12:46] Oh, today.

[7:12:48] It's three. I mean, it should be.

[7:12:50] It's a reference here. I'm not seeing where it says to. If it says to, that's a typo,

[7:12:59] the resolution is called for three. Yeah. So I was just wondering, what do you see, two, kid?

[7:13:05] Oh, I see it. There's two. On the right about three quarters of the way down. Right up, higher, right, right?

[7:13:16] So it's inconsistent.

[7:13:18] So you.

[7:13:19] It was evolution calls for three.

[7:13:21] Right, I have an error in my staff report.

[7:13:24] Okay, and then page 823-824.

[7:13:33] This is just for the section consistency because it

[7:13:39] went from section to and then directly to section 4.

[7:13:43] And so there's no section 3.

[7:13:45] It's skipping.

[7:13:46] So you probably want to go back and go section 1, 2, 6, 3, number, it's missing 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

[7:13:57] So there?

[7:14:00] Yeah, 24, 8, 25.

[7:14:04] I have never, okay.

[7:14:06] I will remember those.

[7:14:08] Yep.

[7:14:11] It's it?

[7:14:12] Sorry.

[7:14:12] My apologies.

[7:14:18] I know it's amended.

[7:14:20] We love to use template, I get it.

[7:14:25] I moved as a mid did.

[7:14:27] Okay.

[7:14:29] I'll second.

[7:14:30] I'll second as a mentor.

[7:14:31] Correct.

[7:14:32] I did.

[7:14:32] Same thing.

[7:14:39] I see.

[7:14:40] I think.

[7:14:42] All in favor.

[7:14:43] This system is.

[7:14:46] It's after voting.

[7:14:47] Hi.

[7:14:47] It is revolting on the threefold thing.

[7:14:50] It is not wanting to operate now.

[7:14:53] I have a first and a second.

[7:14:55] All those in favor say hi.

[7:14:56] Hi.

[7:14:57] All those opposed.

[7:14:58] I didn't need team to have such 5-0.

[7:15:00] Thank you, and move on to item 19 approval of the agreement for consultant services, between the city of Fount Valley and Harper and Burns L.O.P. to provide city attorney services to the city.

[7:15:12] Presentation by city clerk.

[7:15:14] Mr. Mayor, I have to step outside. I have a conflict. This is my firm's contract.

[7:15:17] Yes. Thank you.

[7:15:20] You sure you still want to do it?

[7:15:23] That's

[7:15:32] the seat, how good I can be here.

[7:15:34] He's got to be late.

[7:15:36] Okay.

[7:15:38] This is the RFP for legal services as we are nearing our five-year time period with Harper

[7:15:46] and Burns as the attorney for the city.

[7:15:50] Harper and Burns have been the attorney for the city for quite some time since 1982.

[7:15:54] The most recent agreement for attorney services was approved back in September of 2021.

[7:16:00] There were two, one year extensions built into that, we are currently on the second of the two year extensions, which will expire in September of this year.

[7:16:12] We are presenting the contract a little bit earlier than in September just so we can align this with our fiscal year.

[7:16:19] These are some of the various responsibilities that are required of the city attorney's office.

[7:16:27] These are the main, main things, brown act, elections law, contract law.

[7:16:33] General plans, CEQA, city attorney's involved with everything.

[7:16:40] Now on the procurement, the RFP process and accordance with the city's purchasing policies.

[7:16:44] We issued a request for proposals for the Attorney Services on April 13th of this year.

[7:16:52] The RFP was publicly advertised through Planet Bids with an invitation through the city's website.

[7:16:57] There were 15 firms that viewed and downloaded the RFP.

[7:17:03] The city received on May 11th, 7 submittals to the proposal.

[7:17:09] The city's evaluation team consisted of three department heads who evaluated the proposals on a 10-point system with a weighted score of 800 points in three areas.

[7:17:20] The general approach and work plan qualifications experiences and the firm's past performance and references.

[7:17:27] after scoring the proposals based on the criteria above.

[7:17:31] We were then anything, any firm that scored 575 or higher, moved on

[7:17:39] and at that point we started looking at their costs.

[7:17:45] We don't look at their proposed work and cost at the same time.

[7:17:51] So you're not skewing the possible candidate

[7:17:56] for one reason or another.

[7:17:59] So based on that information,

[7:18:03] this is a breakdown of how each of the firms

[7:18:05] scored the top two being heartburn burns and Jones

[7:18:11] and Air.

[7:18:13] Burke Williams and Swanson was a very close third

[7:18:18] on the first portion of the RFP process, and then as we, this, this screen shows the breakdown

[7:18:33] of the interview process that we had our top two of Jones Mayor Harper Burns, then we

[7:18:39] in in-house interview with both firms, three three directors and these were the

[7:18:47] scoring of that as well. So on this last page you get the round one which was

[7:18:55] the proposal broken down between the services and their costs and then round two

[7:18:59] being the interview process. With again, Harper and Burns coming out ahead just

[7:19:08] over a hundred and forty points over Jones Mayor.

[7:19:13] I'm sorry, can you go back?

[7:19:17] More?

[7:19:18] No, it's good.

[7:19:19] I'm just, I'm good.

[7:19:21] Thank you.

[7:19:24] So with that, staffs recommendation to the City Council is to approve alternative number one.

[7:19:33] Approval of the agreement for Consultant Services between the City of Found Valley and

[7:19:38] LOP provides city attorney services to the city for an initial term of three years with again two additional one-year

[7:19:44] extensions if agreed to by both parties.

[7:19:49] Thank you, Rick.

[7:19:50] I'm hopefully happy to answer questions, sir.

[7:19:54] Okay, open it up to questions, comments from Council.

[7:19:59] I'd like to go first.

[7:20:00] I will.

[7:20:01] Well, I think Colin and his firm are doing well, and you would like to have him continue.

[7:20:13] Right.

[7:20:14] That's unbelievable.

[7:20:15] I have a comment to make for, in the future, for the proposal,

[7:20:22] Keterian,

[7:20:25] perhaps we could put the years as a practice is important as part of evaluations.

[7:20:30] right. The person could be practicing municipal law, but there's a difference between a

[7:20:37] personal practice five years versus a person who practiced two decades. Absolutely. And

[7:20:42] that and I believe most of not all of them referenced how long they've been in municipal law.

[7:20:49] Yeah, I just didn't see anything. And it was in the proposals that were submitted. That was certainly

[7:20:54] something that we looked at. There were some firms that were, you know, seven years eight years

[7:20:58] as opposed to 30, 40 years, that's certainly way, ways with the departments.

[7:21:05] Okay, so you do have that, you just put in here.

[7:21:07] Yes.

[7:21:07] Got it.

[7:21:08] It's just part of the overall proposal.

[7:21:09] Yeah, okay.

[7:21:10] I'm okay with it.

[7:21:11] I just didn't, I wasn't sure if that was part of the equations.

[7:21:16] Any more discussions?

[7:21:18] If not, don't quite.

[7:21:18] I do.

[7:21:19] Okay.

[7:21:20] That's my grandest.

[7:21:21] Yeah.

[7:21:22] I haven't had a chance to read it.

[7:21:23] I saw that the cost for, by council member and total cost that came up came out yesterday, I think it was, but I haven't, I haven't been able to go through it in detail, but,

[7:21:36] I concerned that I saw was that it was way over budget and that the budget was used up, the total budget for the year was used up after 10 months.

[7:21:48] So my concern is, you know, when you get to cost

[7:21:55] and he's got the highest rating, which

[7:21:58] is good, because the price is an inefficiency, is it, we're contacting too much, are we

[7:22:05] budgeting wrong, I think we need to get our arms around this, because, you know, you're

[7:22:13] going to come back for approval for more money, because he's done the work and we got to

[7:22:18] but it's over budget and it's I would say at times it's probably a combination of

[7:22:26] a little bit of everything and I think with us having that providing you a

[7:22:32] quarterly look at here's where we are with the city attorneys costs that I think

[7:22:40] we're hopeful will give us a tighter grip on on how the attorney for the city's

[7:22:44] was being utilized? Yeah, I couldn't open it on my phone for some reason. I haven't had a chance

[7:22:49] to open it on my computer, so could have been. So be my understanding from finance director,

[7:22:57] when we are evaluating the proposal, we base up per hour, the rates, increase on per hour.

[7:23:06] are early rates. Not like the full budget and I think the legal cost varies from year to year and

[7:23:18] the feedback that the finance director had shared with me is we've been under budget the last few

[7:23:26] years and I think with this upcoming fiscal year instead of 425,000 will put 450 and again

[7:23:36] It really depends on the year, depending on the city council conversation, discussion based on policy that are being directed by staff.

[7:23:47] I think in this last year for sure, a good chunk of it had to do with group homes and public hearings and charter city charter city.

[7:24:01] Yes, so those did the Zoom a lot of legal time, but again, it really varies depending on the subject matter depending on what is the council priority and so, but I think for sure, hearing from finance director, you know,

[7:24:22] I initiate to include legal services at 450,000 this time around instead of 425,000.

[7:24:31] Yeah, I'm, you know, again, I didn't look at it closely, but it sounded like we used our budget up

[7:24:37] in 10 months. So I don't think that increase, which is 5% to whatever it is,

[7:24:43] for sure. Vice Mayor Harper knows the top office head. But that doesn't sound like either enough

[7:24:51] of a budget increase or we need to stop spending so much.

[7:24:58] And again, I didn't look at it, so I don't, is that a public record?

[7:25:06] I haven't seen it, so I wouldn't be able to tell you.

[7:25:10] If it's dollar amounts, then I believe it would be,

[7:25:13] but if there's things attributed in there

[7:25:16] of what they're happening, what conversations are occurring

[7:25:20] or what it's reflecting, then there's some protections in there.

[7:25:24] Okay.

[7:25:24] Not being a public document.

[7:25:25] I just raised it as a concern, it's a red flag that we're high and we're renewing the

[7:25:35] contract and the prices artificially low but the hours are being high and that's something

[7:25:41] we have to look at as well.

[7:25:43] I think recently with the City Council direction in providing a quarterly update on legal

[7:25:49] services and so forth, that potentially could help, you know, monitor the expense and

[7:25:57] social expenses.

[7:25:59] Yeah, I just want to add to appreciate the procurement process.

[7:26:03] I think there were a number of firms that were competitive.

[7:26:06] I think it's healthy to do this every three years.

[7:26:12] And, you know, I think Harper and Burns has a long history of service.

[7:26:17] But we know that's, you know, that's just the factor, it still comes down to today's market and, you know, scoring well on all of the factors, so.

[7:26:30] But I too am pleased with the service and work really well with the firm and have always thought highly of all of the services they're diverse, and so I'll continue to support the findings of staff on this.

[7:26:46] I'm surprised BBK's not on the list.

[7:26:49] They downloaded and reviewed the proposal or the RFP and they did not submit.

[7:26:55] I will tell you I talked to them because I was surprised as well.

[7:27:01] And the feedback I got was they felt that Harper and Burns was a formality.

[7:27:07] So they didn't want to make the effort to bid because they've been with us for 42 years.

[7:27:12] So that's their problem.

[7:27:17] No, it has history.

[7:27:19] Yeah.

[7:27:19] Okay.

[7:27:22] Okay, so thanks so much.

[7:27:25] Well, I'll call for a motion on the other.

[7:27:28] Motion to approve.

[7:27:28] We did already.

[7:27:29] Oh, it's on there.

[7:27:31] It's on there.

[7:27:32] It's on there.

[7:27:32] It's on my mind.

[7:27:33] It's on my mind.

[7:27:34] So it's on there.

[7:27:35] Oh, wait, wait.

[7:27:36] It's on there.

[7:27:37] It's on there.

[7:27:38] It's on there.

[7:27:39] It's on there.

[7:27:40] It's on there.

[7:27:43] Was there a motion I think I started out motion by council member Constantine chair second bike

[7:27:56] Consol those in favor say I I all those opposed

[7:28:00] I have 19 pets is five zero making if we could call the city attorney back

[7:28:06] You should all turn our back on us.

[7:28:12] Take a seat away.

[7:28:17] Sorry, you don't need this anymore.

[7:28:20] We're telling you gradually.

[7:28:24] Rack.

[7:28:25] Great.

[7:28:25] Thank you.

[7:28:27] We're punchy at 12.

[7:28:28] 45 in the morning.

[7:28:30] OK.

[7:28:31] Moving on.

[7:28:31] City Council.

[7:28:32] Successor Agency.

[7:28:33] Housing Authority.

[7:28:34] Public comments.

[7:28:37] On unscheduled matters, are there any requests to speak?

[7:28:45] All right, City Council's Access Regency.

[7:28:46] Housing Authority AB1234 General Comments.

[7:28:51] At this late hour, kind of leave it as an option.

[7:28:55] Any council member would like to speak if not?

[7:28:58] I think.

[7:28:59] Okay.

[7:29:00] We'll start with Council.

[7:29:01] One minute.

[7:29:01] Yeah, I just want to say, I've recently submitted my list.

[7:29:05] But this past Saturday, I forgot to put it on my social media.

[7:29:08] but fountain valley celebrated our 69th birthday.

[7:29:13] Happy birthday fountain valley.

[7:29:14] And that's it, good night.

[7:29:17] OK.

[7:29:17] We need to do a bed job.

[7:29:19] But if not, next time, I have to be a charger

[7:29:20] because the second time I found a day.

[7:29:24] We'll be near what says three o'clock?

[7:29:27] Yes, yes.

[7:29:28] Can I just couple a couple of quick comments?

[7:29:31] So it's been over nine hours.

[7:29:34] So I would like to congratulate the mayor

[7:29:36] for the longest meeting in Council Member Bully, I owe you lunch, so for that.

[7:29:42] And then I just want to remind everybody, because maybe somebody is recorded and maybe somebody

[7:29:48] is watching tomorrow, but we got some of the fast coming up, so just to remind a Thursday

[7:29:53] through Sunday, it's the big party that we put on for the city, so be there for some of

[7:29:58] test.

[7:30:01] And then we have the 4th of July, we won't have another meeting before the 4th of July, so Happy Birthday America.

[7:30:09] And then the last thing is we saw that HR video that earlier, and it talked multiple times about us being an inclusive city,

[7:30:20] And we're inclusive whether you live work in play and part of that inclusiveness

[7:30:26] It's unfortunate. We didn't do a resolution on this, but I would like to wish those that celebrate a happy Pride month

[7:30:35] Great. Thank you. Caltsman. Three. Any comments?

[7:30:41] No sir. I'll go ahead and submit it. It's okay. Someone's one o'clock. Okay. Vicemer Harper

[7:30:49] No comments.

[7:30:51] And I too will submit my comments.

[7:30:55] So we will adjourn to our next meeting, which will be the second Tuesday July 14th.

[7:31:03] Here in chambers at 6 p.m.

[7:31:05] And until then, a good morning.

[7:31:10] We're adjourned.

City Council Meeting - Jun 16th, 2026

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