[0:00] Okay, now we're ready to start.

[0:02] We need to finish the roll call, though. Yes. Okay, council member Roussen.

[0:06] Here.

[0:07] Council member Johnson. Here.

[0:09] Council member Nagan gas. Here.

[0:10] Vice-Mayor Penrose. Here. Mayor Radik. Here. We have a party.

[0:15] We have one public comment.

[0:17] Yes. We're going to vote.

[0:20] We're going to vote.

[0:21] We're going to vote.

[0:21] We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote. We vote.

[0:22] Close session, aye.

[0:23] We have item 4A conference with Labour negotiators.

[0:26] for the Community Adversion,

[0:27] pursue into government code section 549576,

[0:32] for V conference on legal counsel and existing litigation,

[0:35] pursuant to govern around section 54956.9.

[0:38] Up section D1, I have a foresee Cambridge

[0:42] of Legal Counsel on anticipated litigation

[0:44] and for the account to a legal counsel

[0:46] and anticipate the litigation.

[0:49] And do we have any public comment

[0:51] and close sessions by those?

[0:53] We have one in person who's always waiting in any that are online. Please raise your hand.

[1:02] If you would like to speak

[1:05] Right here, you can sit down if you'd like

[1:15] Not a matter of

[1:18] How requested that he have more than three minutes to speak.

[1:23] Well, our meeting starts at 7 o'clock. How about

[1:28] You know, give it to three

[1:29] My specific west is just that it's a rather than a hat on. Hopefully that you've

[1:35] been very small minutes of the concise.

[1:37] Well, I'm going to put the right approach to the tens of thousands of dollars that

[1:42] things can end up costing, which we want to avoid every once in a while.

[1:46] I believe.

[1:50] Okay.

[1:51] I'm going to start the time now.

[1:53] You're right.

[1:54] Thank you.

[1:56] First, May I ask, you know, have all the council members seen both the mayor letter from Brian

[2:02] and the response letter from the city's locker.

[2:08] What do you say?

[2:10] They've been sent to them.

[2:12] I'm asking if they've actually seen it with them.

[2:15] Well, so why don't you get to public comment?

[2:17] This isn't really a question and sort of type of situation.

[2:20] It's still in any communications that I would

[2:22] be sentenced to the council or attorney point privilege.

[2:26] So it's better for you to just start your public comment

[2:28] given the time.

[2:30] My point here, Denise, is that the council is weighing your advice against other things.

[2:37] I understand that you're advising them not to listen to potentially other things, so I appreciate that you're in that position.

[2:48] So basically, the public interest is served by this going to the voters, it's going to the voters.

[2:55] The public interest is served by the voters, having hearing the arguments from both sides

[3:01] and being able to weigh them in the side, and this will extinguish the controversy that

[3:05] exists in our time.

[3:07] So, the fact that the city attorney, you know, is basically saying that the city court exceeded

[3:15] her authority in writing on August 3, sending me a letter that said the deadline, counting

[3:24] and not calling attention to anything else and in that letter saying these are the rules.

[3:31] And then when I came in on the 10th for the recommendation in the letter and I don't know if all of you have seen

[3:37] the letter that the city clerk had sent me on August 3rd but if not I have a couple of copies like

[3:45] you guys can pass around later if you're just starting to hear it. It said the county deadline

[3:51] I said, this is the list we send anybody asking what arguments, county deadline for all

[3:55] arguments in August 11th, we recommend submitting any written argument paperwork to the

[3:59] City Park's office.

[4:01] Prior to this deadline to ensure all requirements have been met again in the office, 345,

[4:06] Tuesday, what they afternoon, the clerk was not in the deputy clerk contacted her upon discovering

[4:13] the discrepancy between the City Council Resolution and the letter written to me by the

[4:21] this depending on what the city court told. And after conferring, they didn't say to me,

[4:28] you got an hour and a quarter buddy, hurry up, they said, we'll accept this tomorrow.

[4:33] But I came back with it tomorrow. They said as soon as possible tomorrow, I came in with it after

[4:37] lunch, the city court, and the city deputy court together, we'll start going through it.

[4:44] They pointed to a couple of nits, if you will, that are not an issue here, and they were in

[4:51] process of accepting it, they gave me file stamped copies of what I submitted, and what

[4:57] having called Denise, they then got into the situation where, okay, Denise said he can't

[5:04] accept it. And at that point, they said, okay, we're going to have to figure this out. We will

[5:09] get back to you. Right? So, in the course of that, I should also mention that the court carefully

[5:18] examined, the argument submitted, out of the words, saw the formatting, said, no, didn't

[5:24] raise any issues about the formatting.

[5:26] It was in the process of accepting the argument.

[5:29] So I asked, well, please, while you're figuring this out, send it to the county, but they

[5:33] have it.

[5:34] It's the 11th.

[5:35] The county deadline is the 11th.

[5:36] They may just run with it.

[5:37] If the other side says, oh, they came on the 11th instead of the 10th, you know, maybe they

[5:42] can raise an issue.

[5:42] Then we get to all go to a judge, like, don't be raised by them.

[5:46] One of the public interests being the city's arguments on both sides to the voters, that's what

[5:52] we're asking finally to be accomplished. To be told that the city that the county can't meet these

[5:59] deadlines if the city asks it to. Probably they're actually have a hard deadline when they send

[6:05] things off to the printer, whether it requires a judge or a lawyer or whether it requires a city council

[6:11] resolution directing the court to ask them, we're simply in action by this council informally directing the court to ask them.

[6:20] You know, that, a pretty large earnings is very doable.

[6:24] They make progress the timeline if they need you.

[6:26] But the public interest is see these things in the argument.

[6:31] So in the letter that was sent back to us, I also wish to point out that there's actually some things that are just not true.

[6:37] you know, to say the Mr. Wagner was fully aware of the August 10th deadline is simply not true.

[6:44] To say that the argument did not comply with the city's formatting requirements of which Mr. Wagner was also aware.

[6:51] It was not true. The letter, the ignores that the city clerk wrote August 11th and no other date in the email address.

[6:57] third branch of approval is a bit tomorrow on August 10th to person. Well, she was on the phone,

[7:04] the in person was with her deputy. But the two of them confirmed, I was told this. And then

[7:10] tentatively accepted the formatting on August 11th. But for your information, I went and took the

[7:16] timestamp copies here to county elections before 5 p.m. on Tuesday. They have copies on

[7:22] that they know were submitted here.

[7:24] So if they raise a question of, you know,

[7:26] if there's an error and it's to be corrected somehow,

[7:29] they do know that it was, in fact, brought in by their deadline.

[7:33] So the news of the things I asked that, you know, the council finds some way,

[7:38] you know, to let us keep forward.

[7:40] If it takes a little bit of time, you know, let's go through that.

[7:45] If you wish to call me back in,

[7:47] for any questions, I'll be available to you to finish the procession.

[7:52] Thank you very much.

[8:02] I'll check and see if there's any other questions.

[8:04] Yeah, I'll just stand for the statement.

[8:06] It's not raised to someone.

[8:11] Dan, do you want to talk at all?

[8:20] Dan, three.

[8:24] Yeah, so Dan pulled on a minute

[8:28] or Matthew's checking for other public commenters.

[8:58] Dan, Alex,

[9:04] Dan, you're available to speak.

[9:07] I would just make it quick that I agree with the general sentiment of the previous speaker.

[9:13] Thank you.

[9:20] The agrees with the previous speaker.

[9:22] Oh, that's it.

[9:23] All right.

[9:23] Thank you.

[9:25] Yeah.

[9:25] No, that's fine.

[9:26] But before we go into closed session,

[9:29] Vice Mayor Penro,

[9:30] if you want to make an announcement about your attendance,

[9:32] be at the just cause circumstance.

[9:35] I don't know.

[9:36] I'm from the hospital with pneumonia,

[9:39] and I'm doing a lot better than I'm very tired.

[9:42] So I'm here for the closed session.

[9:47] Okay.

[9:47] You can never.

[9:50] Okay.

[9:51] So we will end the open portion of this meeting and move into the private portion.

[9:56] So Deborah, the second length that I sent you when you could log into it down.

[10:01] Okay.

[10:02] I'll take that out of this.

[10:04] And I think I'll let's stay on the phone.

[10:07] And that way, if the audio is still an issue, you can just roll right in.

[10:10] Sorry. Thank you.

City Council Closed Session

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