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Good afternoon and welcome to our May Heritage Kitchener meeting. This afternoon we're pleased
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to have with us our reps who are going to talk about Victoria Park. And I just encourage
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everyone that, you know, if you have questions, we know the rules and how we do our reports
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and so on and so forth. So, again, for the audience, people interested
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in participating in future meetings can register online using the Delegation Registration
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form www.kitchener.ca delegation or via email at delegation at kitchener.ca.
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So first item of business, we would like to know if anybody has a disclosure of pecuniary
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interest and the general nature thereof.
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of. So are there any pecuniary interest? Seeing none, we'll proceed to the delegation.
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And
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what we're going to do is go straight to this presentation on Victoria Park. And you have
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as your agenda item, Heritage Consultation Memo for Victoria Park Master Plan.
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And we have two of our staff who are going to present because they've both been involved
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in this item.
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We have Michelle Drake, our Senior Heritage Planner, and Karen Lisa, Landscape Architect.
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So each of them will present, and we do have a five-minute presentation.
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However, I would think that this item may take longer than the five minutes.
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And since we don't have a long agenda, I will open it up,
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and you do what you have to do to present.
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All right.
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So, Michelle, are you going to present first?
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We're going to present together.
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Karen and Melissa and Michelle, please.
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Thank you, Jean, for that introduction.
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So both myself and Ms. Lizard are here tonight to talk about the Victoria Park Master Plan
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and the Heritage Review that was undertaken by the firm of Archaeological Services Inc.
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ASI. The purpose of our presentation today is to not walk you through every single recommendation
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of the Draft Master Plan but rather to sort of highlight the theme areas and the findings
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as they relate to heritage with respect to ongoing work with the overall Victoria Park
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master plan review process.
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So as I mentioned, ASI was retained to assess how
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the draft Victoria Park Master Plan recommendations aligned with, as you know,
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the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District Plan policies and
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guidelines. The review identified a few different things. One being, or I guess
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the purpose story of the review was to identify if there were any potential conflicts, but
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it also identified and looked at opportunities where we may be able to strengthen the heritage
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character that we see in Victoria Park today and in the broader Heritage Conservation District
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throughout the process.
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In terms of context, this committee should be fairly familiar that Victoria Park is
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the city's oldest park. It was established in the 1890s and forms a central feature within
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the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District. The plan that applies in that district
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identifies the park as a romantic landscape and then it mentions that it's characterized
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by things like the naturalistic forms, the meandering pathways, wooded areas, open
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lawns, framed vistas, and then it mentions the lake as a focal point within the park
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and the district.
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I'm going to turn it over to Karen for now.
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All good?
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Okay.
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Thanks, Michelle.
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Good afternoon.
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Thank you for taking the time to hear about the master plan and the progress we've made
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since we last met in November of 2025.
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I just wanted to bring some additional information to the committee in terms of the recommendations
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that we've brought forth and how it relates to what Michelle had just mentioned about
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the Heritage Review.
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As far as the process for the project, since we last met, we were working through draft
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recommendations.
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So we'd finalized phase one and phase two, and we were validating all the data we
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had collected from those two phases and drafting recommendations based on capital, policy and
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strategic initiatives. We worked through an internal stakeholder process where we verified
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that information and basically circled back to those folks in our working group and made
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sure that we weren't missing anything. And then we're looking at a prioritization of
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those recommendations. So in terms of the internal stakeholder verification, we worked
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through, like I mentioned, the internal working group, but also feedback from our CLT, our
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corporate leadership team. And then, as Michelle mentioned, we jointly retained ASI to look
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at the overall recommendations and are here today for our second update.
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And concurrently are working on the document in the background just to make sure that we
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meet our June 1st deadline for council.
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Next slide.
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So in terms of the internal stakeholder verification, that was in March that we went individually
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to heritage planning staff, economic development, our parks operations staff, as well as transportation.
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Those four were sort of key groups that we had heard from in our engagement process that
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had a lot of input when it came to some of those recommendations, and we wanted to make
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sure that what we were presenting aligned with staff's thoughts and strategic goals
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as well. And then CLT came in April where we confirmed support and or revisions to some
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of those recommendations, keeping in mind that the 43 recommendations that we presented
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in our memo to this committee as well as to ASI have since been refined. But we will
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move forward with the original list that we had presented just so we can have that
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discussion if there's any specific questions. And then, again, in April, we were working
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with ASI to make sure that we had that reference point for committee today. Next slide.
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So as I mentioned, the 43 original recommendations, there was 25 capital, nine strategic, and
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nine policy. Of those, they're covered under the topics to the right. I know that's
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kind of small text but it gives you an understanding of the depth of the engagement and the feedback
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we received last year and how we sort of grouped those topics and moved forward in providing
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recommendations that align with what we heard internally and externally from the public.
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Next slide.
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I guess I'll pass it back to Michelle.
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So,
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in terms of the overall findings, what ASI reported back to us was that the majority
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of the draft recommendations found in the draft Victoria Park Master Plan were not inherently
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in conflict with the policies that this committee is familiar with within the Victoria Park
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Area Heritage Conservation District Plan.
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many of the recommendations actually present opportunities where we may be
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able to restore and or improve and enhance the character within the park in
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the broader district. The primary risk that they did share was the idea of
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like cumulative impact so the idea that if there are numerous small and or
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or uncoordinated changes in the park,
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that their collective impact could be a concern,
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and specifically with respect to the idea
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of cumulative visual clutter.
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So some of the key considerations that were outlined
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were related to focusing on protecting the Victoria Park
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in terms of its landscape elements.
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So looking at maintaining views to,
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from and around the lake preserving the open grassy sweeps such as the commons
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and the meadow retaining the wooded areas and then protecting the important
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vistas. Also of interest is the pathways where we would like to continue to see
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them meandering in their alignment instead of being perhaps you know
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straightened or hard angles, and ideally not
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over widening of the pathways as they exist today,
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and where new structures may be proposed,
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that there be thoughtful consideration to the need
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and then careful consideration of the appropriate location
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for those new structures.
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And so with respect to some of the details
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around these changes, the guidance emphasized compatibility rather than a
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replication of historic styles. So looking at new or replacement elements that
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are high quality, natural materials, muted tones, historically appropriate tones
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like those suggested in the Heritage Conservation District Plan, and gave
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these examples of like park furniture and signage looking to sort of coordinate how their design
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happens and vegetation strategies that can also help us reinforce that romantic landscape
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while still integrating some of the ecological and forestry best practices that the city would
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like to achieve. And
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with that I will turn it back to Karen.
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Great thanks Nichelle. So this
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Next slide references the active play zone in the back, like southern portion of the park.
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In speaking to Michelle's previous slide about designing with a thoughtful approach and in
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context of the space, we had some conversations about prioritizing work and with the picnic
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shelter that has recently come down and some of the other capital life cycle replacements
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at the back end in this zone that we're referring to. We were looking to find efficiencies in
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making improvements and for lack of a better phrase, getting the most bang for our buck
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in terms of that space. We know the following to be true currently in that existing location
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in Victoria Park.
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So the picnic shelter was removed last fall
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due to its age and safety concerns.
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The splash pad needs a complete overhaul.
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It's at the end of its life cycle as well.
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The playground's rubber eye surfacing needs repairs
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and a few minor play elements need to change.
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The trail surface needs repairs
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and there's some user conflicts there as well.
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Seating improvements and basketball court improvements
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for all sort of highlighted is initial targeted capital work that can be, we can look at funding
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within a short term period. Next slide.
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So it's hard to see from this slide up that high but
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we've tried to outline the like general area in context of the entire park itself
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Really, just including the playground, the splash pad area, the picnic shelter, the existing
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basketball court, the...
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The machine shop. It's all sort of working together in conjunction with some of those life
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cycle efficiencies that we are looking at moving forward. Next slide.
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So with that, we're really
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focusing on, for the master plan, bringing forward a bit of a conceptual overview of that
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space. We don't have specific finalized design to be presented in the master plan itself,
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but it's more of a conceptual understanding that we'd like to move forward with. Each
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one of those individual capital projects we'll talk to our colleagues in heritage planning
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and understand if the process would be to bring that forward to heritage each like
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in an individual sense or as a collective, we want to make sure that the point that Michelle
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made about cumulative impacts that were being cognizant of that and that as a whole we are
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making good choices in terms of the design and the final impact of the park itself.
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So the picnic shelter, we're looking at upgrading that to match the aesthetic of
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existing park buildings similar to the recently renovated bandstand and shifting that structure
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away from the machine shop as it's not in an ideal location currently. It's kind of pushed to the
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farthest back corner of the park. The summer kitchen considering potentially a new use there
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or location to support the Indigenous people's gathering space and the active play zone that
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I referenced, for the play area specifically, we'd like to move the swings a little bit
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closer to the existing play area because currently they are not meeting accessibility requirements
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and open up that VISTA as the Heritage District Plan references, VISTAs and sweeps of grass.
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We want to alleviate some issues with accessibility and consolidating those play
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areas, improving maintenance for our staff, but also kind of improving that VISTA at the
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same time.
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And as well as the seating options around the playground and the splash pad that would
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kind of concurrently work in tandem with those upgrades.
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The splash pad replacing what's existing, but adjacent to the playground.
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The basketball.
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We'll look at that as more of a dedicated team area close to the outdoor exercise equipment
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that's existing.
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And then the trail piece, keeping in mind the point made about meandering pathways and not
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expanding widths where absolutely not necessary, but looking at mitigating pedestrian conflicts
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and improving the surfaces where we can.
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Next slide.
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So this is just an example, and I believe heritage committee might have seen this previously,
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but we're looking at a Canadian supplier, ShaveView, that could potentially provide
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a replacement for the existing picnic shelter.
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We've discussed materiality and wish list options with our facilities management staff.
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So they've given us an understanding of what they'd like to see in terms of power, lighting, durability, specs as they relate to a new structure in the park.
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But we'll also obviously be considering the aesthetic to be consistent with, like Michelle had mentioned, the existing buildings and structures in the park.
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whether that be cedar shingles or stone cladding of the base, something that
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really fits within the context of the park next slide. And this is just another
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alternative with a metal structure roof but there's you know there's a lot of
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different opportunities to work with this supplier to achieve an aesthetic
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that's agreeable to Heritage and to all those stakeholders as well. Next slide.
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I think that's an alternative over to Michelle.
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And so I guess in conclusion
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what came out of the Heritage review was that as the draft
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recommendations are presented now they will not detract from the Heritage
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character and in some instances will actually create these opportunities to enhance the heritage
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character. Most of the changes that Karen had described are located in that south end
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of Victoria Park and when we move forward with implementation of the recommendations,
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we will need to consider, you know, what is the right process so that we have that bird's-eye view of the park as a whole
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and can understand sort of the cumulative impact of changes that might be more minor over time, but collectively, you know, could have a larger impact.
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And then depending as well on the scope of change,
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whether those changes are things that would be considered under our delegated approval authority bylaw
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and or whether the scope of change requires consideration through the Heritage Committee and potentially council.
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So that is the conclusion of the presentation by staff.
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We do have our consultant here, if there are questions with respect to the memo that you
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may want to address to the delegation, Karen and I are obviously available if there's questions
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of staff, but generally we just like to open it up to the committee for comments and questions.
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Thank
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you and it gives us a really good overview of both the practical and the heritage items.
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So I will open it up to committee for questions or comments, observations, and sure, Councillor
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Chatlin.
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Yeah thank you and thank you for this report. I just have a few questions and
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maybe it's too early to answer them but there's mention of signage. I hope we
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can keep that to a minimum, can we?
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Through the chair, I think what the
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recommendation is is to have a consolidated and comprehensive approach
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and I think that idea would be to sort of minimize the signage but also likely
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have sort of a consistent approach where we do introduce signs so that we
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reduce that visual clutter both in terms of number but also in terms of like
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design or style if that makes sense. Okay yeah just I'd hate to see the
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park full of signs. It's a large park but it's not that big I guess. You
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mentioned that the basketball area would be closer to the outdoor exercise area
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and I was just wondering if that would in any way impact the the parking in that
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area right now.
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Yeah I can take that. So we're looking at kind of adjacent to the
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existing parking lot. It won't impact the parking specifically it's just a
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kind of a shift closer to that space,
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so it reads as more of a consistent youth-focused space.
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But yeah, no specific concerns about parking impacts.
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Okay, great.
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There's no mention of barbecues or outdoor,
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I don't know if they're not called barbecues,
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but pits, fire pits.
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Have we decided not to do that?
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So that's kind of come in tandem
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with the picnic shelter I believe. We have sort of dedicated coal locations. There's a lot of
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independent sort of multi-generational gatherings that we've seen over the last few years in the
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park and people bringing their own facilities with them to the space. We do have a
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the Parks Master Plan does provide some information in terms of like moving
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forward with the pilot for that piece as well. So I don't know if Markey likes to
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speak to that in more detail. I think there's room for minor improvements such
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as that. So we didn't hear an outcome specifically for barbecues. We know it's
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used but a permanent facility like that we can certainly add it after the
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fact. It doesn't necessarily have to be part of the larger strategic plan. So
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So if it's a grassroots initiative or something maybe you hear from constituents, we're happy
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to place it in a location like that.
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Okay.
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Because I do think, as Karen said, there are a lot of multi-generational families that
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do use the park.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, hold parties and that sort of thing.
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So it would be nice if they had that infrastructure available to them.
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I couldn't hold off if others have questions.
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No?
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Okay.
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What about the multi-use trail?
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What ideas do you have for that?
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Because I know it can be there is conflict
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with pedestrians and e-bikes in particular,
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or e-scooters.
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We are looking at, as part of that southern portion
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in the active play zone,
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to have a sort of bypass trail
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around the backside of that space
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if we can consolidate it closer together. Still meandering in a way, but I think that
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that would really help the conflicts we're seeing with pedestrians and e-scooters and
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the entrance from the parking lot near the pavilion. There's a lot going on in that
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space. There's a lot of crossover to the washroom facility if that becomes a change
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room in the future or if we look at retrofit for that building. There's even more sort
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crossover of pedestrians in that space and we're seeing that through our like
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sensor technology as well so I think that that provides even more data behind
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making a change there in terms of the pathway and providing a better
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connection from the iron horse trail around that space to neighboring side
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streets and to the rest of the park. Right okay and what about the
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indigenous people's gathering space? I know one concern when it was sort of an
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impromptu arrangement was the close proximity to the kids play area. So
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would it be moved back slightly to avoid that conflict? So our colleague Carol
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Bacon is managing that piece and the location is indigenous lead in terms of
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I'm citing that appropriately and it's quite a distance away from the playground in an open
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green space that I think we're going to have a communication of that publicly in the next
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couple of days.
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So yeah, we'll have a better understanding publicly of where that will be and where
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it'll be cited and what the materiality and the design will look like.
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Right. My other question had to do with the Victoria Park Working Group. They haven't seen
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this yet. Will they be seeing it before it comes to Council in June? I forget when the
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next meeting is. The entirety of the master plan? Well, at least, like, we can, I was
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aiming to for post heritage committee to forward ASI's report if I think that that we can
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keep that internal to the working group, but I think if need be, we would share that
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as well.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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I think it's, you've done a great job.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Councilor Chapman.
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Are there any other questions, comments?
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Yes.
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I just had a question about the, it was noted that there was potential for land
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acquisition and expansion of the park beyond the railway, keeping in mind that it
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be differentiated from the rest of the park if that happens from like a heritage perspective.
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I wondered if that is something that is being actively pursued or is it just a hypothetical
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depending on how things work out for some of these these plants.
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It is being pursued but it's part of the larger city initiative just because the
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resources to acquire properties is finite so it's not just Victoria Park it's across the
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city so it is being considered realistically and actively just as part of the larger picture.
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Okay, thank you.
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Thank you, Preston.
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Any other questions?
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I have one or two.
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With respect to the picnic shelter, I'm sure that's a capital cost.
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Is it planned for this year or is this when the plan is finished?
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That's the first one of the gate once we're through council approval.
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like assuming it is approved through council, that is our first project to replace that function
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and service as quickly as we can.
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So further, you showed a few designs, and I'm wondering if, like, how you will work
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Thank you.
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with our heritage committee.
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And I've seen now the two designs and I think I have a preference
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on one of them. However, I don't know what the other members of the committee feel about
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the design. So how will that proceed?
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So specific capital projects. We will come
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back to heritage committee similar to bridge replacements and any other major capital works.
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This would fall under that same process, so we're not here to talk about the specifics
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of the design, although we alluded to it and showed a nice picture about it and what we're
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thinking about it, but the specifics of the materiality, the design, the size, we will
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come back to this committee with the specifics and receive feedback accordingly and balance
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with our own facilities management and our own operations team too.
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In years past, it seemed to me that we did have committee reps sitting down with staff
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in building projects like this, and I wonder if this might be a project that would be worthy
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of maybe a member of the committee, and it sounds like there's a working group or
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of the Victoria Park community group, something like that to talk and have some discussion
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on this picnic shelter since it's part and parcel of their neighborhood.
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Certainly will include the Victoria Park working group. They are, like you said, part
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and parcel of the park itself, the neighborhood. They are part of one of the groups that
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we will speak to once the design is underway.
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Thank you. Another item that was brought to my attention and I have wondered
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about this as well. For instance you have a road that carries a fair amount of
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traffic through the park and I wondered like has there been any thought of how
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one would, instead of maybe having the stop at one point, like a different way of dealing
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with the traffic and the crossing, and I don't know if that's a concern.
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Sure.
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So, we had a pretty substantial engagement phase last summer that included internal
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and external engagement.
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We had a transportation charrette, so staff internally from our transportation department
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talked about a lot of these pieces in terms of crossover of active transportation,
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parking, the connection along Jubilee.
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There's even in some of the older documentation that Rich Mills had shared with us,
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There was reference to closing Jubilee back in the 70s and the 80s, and it seems to come
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up every decade.
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So there was a lot of conversation about is the park for cars, is it for pedestrians,
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and back and forth about how we're managing that overlap.
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I think that we've landed on a point where we're focusing more through this master plan
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on over the next 10-year period on pedestrian circulation through the park space.
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We have a parking strategy that we're looking at and strategic items that we're bringing
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forward over the next 10-year period that try to get at the crux of some of those conflicts.
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But yeah, I think that that's become an ongoing dialogue in our engagement and you'll
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see it represented in the master plan as well.
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Thank you. One last item we've got Nandering Pathways and I do believe in
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the script I read about perhaps sand and gravel finishes and I think that might
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be a bit difficult and I wondered whether there might be some consent. I'm
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I'm just trying to think of the Romantic era or the landscape era, the late Victorian period,
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and how you blend that, and I will be honest, I abhor Ashfalt, and I don't think it has
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a place in the park for it, but I wondered whether something like an aggregate or a brushed
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aggregate brushstone might work on the paths where you are suggesting the
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gravel and the sand and then again I don't know where those paths are but I
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just put it out there for your consideration if you want to respond.
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We probably hold off until maybe we do that work but I know any asphalt
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installations there they use a different type it's a rougher category
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of asphalt to maybe allude to that sand and gravel finish.
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But beyond that, it's typically a cost decision really.
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If we're speaking of concrete to brush concrete
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or expose aggregate concrete or something to that effect,
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to do it in mass quantity is costly.
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So asphalt is the better, is the balance I say,
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of both of those where we get the accessibility benefits
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of a firm stable surface.
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and not quite as expensive as concrete so we'll consider that I mean I think it's
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part of the cost considerations but doing this under budget is also part of it
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too and there are modifications we can do to ask well to help the the visual or
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to help the what it what it appears like
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thank you are there any other
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comments.
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So staff have you any concluding remarks or do you feel you've
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exhausted what we need to know? Michelle and Kieran. Karen. Through the chair, Doe,
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we just wanted to present the information to the committee today and
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acknowledge that you know parks and heritage planning will continue to
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work together as the broader master plan moves forward but also as some of
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those implementation pieces are sort of targeted
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to start work on and absolutely where
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a heritage permit is required,
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we will seek advice from the neighborhood representative
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to see whether those permits need to come to committee
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or whether they can be processed
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at a staff level under delegated approval.
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Very good, thank you.
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Any further direction?
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Great.
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All right.
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We'll now proceed to our Bill 23 Municipal, and thank you again for coming.
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Bill 23 Municipal Heritage Register Review.
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So it looks like we have two properties, 130 Weber Street West and 105117 Onward Avenue.
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And I assume, Victoria, you're going to be working on this and presenting.
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All right.
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Thank you, Madam Chair.
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So the first property that we're bringing forward to this evening as part of our municipal heritage register review is 130 Weber Street West.
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The property contains a two-story early 20th century brick building constructed in the industrial vernacular style with subtle Art Deco influences.
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influences. I just wanted to note to the committee that the statement of significance refers
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to the building having subtle classical revival influences, but after some reassessment these
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appear to be more aligned with the art deco architectural style. So the building is situated
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situated on a 0.59 acre parcel of land located on the northeast corner of Bright
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Up Street and Weber Street West within the warehouse district cultural heritage
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landscape and the principal resource that contributes to the heritage value
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of the property is the commercial building.
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So the property has designed
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physical value as it is a representative example of industrial
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vernacular architecture with subtle art deco influence. The property has
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historical and associative value. So Charles Dorr, founder of
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Dare Foods, was the original owner of these lands and the property formerly
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housed the Dare Foods factory before a fire destroyed the building in 1943.
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free. Dare Foods has since relocated to its location on Kingsway Drive. So A.B. Kaya of
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Kaya Fabrics purchased the property and relocated the company to 130 Weber Street West in 1947.
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Kaya Fabrics is a well-known entity in the Canadian textile industry. The company collaborated
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with a Danish-based designer and artist
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to produce textile art prints
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that helped shape Canadian art textile styles.
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And the company also had exclusive rights
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to a line of fire-retardant fabrics,
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making kaia fabrics a leading supplier
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to schools, hospitals, and other institutions
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throughout the 1960s and 1970s.
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The current building at 130 Weaver Street West
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was designed by B.A. Jones.
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Jones worked with W. H. Schmaltz and assisted with the design of the 1922-23 Kitchener City
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Hall building. And Jones also designed the 1932 public utilities building and the 1936-37
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Church of the Good Shepherd.
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And this property also has contextual value as it contributes
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to the continuity and character of the Brightup Street and Weber Street West
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streetscapes as well as the warehouse district CHL. So that concludes my
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presentation on this property. Madam Chair would you like me to just move to
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the next one and we can consider them both together or do you want to pause
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here and have a discussion? Perhaps we can pause and we can take them
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together but I'll ask the question. Are there any questions for Victoria on
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this property.
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Well, I have one. It's a bit of nostalgia. Does anyone remember buying
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kaya fabrics or having someone make clothing of kaya fabric? I do.
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I was really sorry when
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that fabric company left our city and it was kind of a pleasant surprise to read
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this in the in the script and I hadn't realized where this was made. Good. All
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right. Are there any other comments or questions? All right. We'll proceed then
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to the onward property.
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All right. Thank you Madam Chair. So the second
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property that's being brought forward this evening is the property
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municipally addressed as 105 to 117 Onward Avenue. This property contains a
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three-story mid-20th century brick apartment building constructed in the
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structuralist architectural style. The apartment building is situated on a
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1.19 acre parcel of land located at the corner of Onward Avenue and Weber
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Street East in the Onward Avenue neighborhood cultural heritage
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landscape. The principal resource that contributes to the heritage value of the
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property is the apartment building.
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So the property has designed physical value
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as the building is a representative example of the structuralist architectural
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style. The property has historical associated value given its association
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with the original owner and builder Michael Krauss and it also has the
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potential to yield information about post-war development within the city
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of Kitchener. So Michael Krause was founder of Krause
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Carbon Mills and Struidex Fibers and was a prominent member of the new apostolic church.
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His religious work and his work as a builder were intertwined. He served as the contractor
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for the church building at 182 Victoria Street North and helped build the current new apostolic
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church at 160 Margaret Avenue. Krause was the founder and president of Stam Investments,
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a company owned by the new Apostolic Church of Canada, which was involved in apartment
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construction and land development. The company's proceeds were partly dedicated to the church's
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missionary work in Asia, Africa, South America, and the Caribbean. The building at 105 to 117
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Onward Avenue illustrates the role of apartment buildings in addressing post-war housing needs
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in Kitchener. This building is part of a series of several apartment buildings
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constructed by different owners on the same or modified plans around 1948.
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And
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the property has contextual value as the building contributes to the continuity
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and character of the Onward Avenue streetscape. The building is in its
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original location and maintains its original use as an apartment building.
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Prior to World War II, the area around this property represented the limits
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of Kitchener's Urban Development and there is a link between this building
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So that concludes my presentation on these properties and I'm just going to put the recommendation
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up on the slide for the committee. Thank you.
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Thank you, Victoria. Are there any questions about this? Yes, Councillor Michele.
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Thank you. It's nice to see this apartment being put on the list. Was there not another
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apartment beside that at the same heritage at one point? I'm sure there was
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two. Through the chair I don't know if there was one like directly beside this
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property but on 265 Weber Street East which is very close to this property
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there is an H plan apartment building and then the the two properties that
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I mentioned at Borden Avenue are also sort of H plan blocks as well. Yeah I
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I thought there was one up closer towards going towards East Ave, but that's okay.
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It's nice to see this.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Councillor Michel.
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Any other questions for Victoria?
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Well seeing none, I'm going to read the motion that pursuant to Section 29 of the Interior
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Heritage Act, the cultural heritage value or interest be recognized and designation be
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pursued for the following properties. 130 Weber Street West 105 117 Onward Avenue. Are
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there any questions? Who would move this? Magda, thank you. Any further questions? All
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right. All those in favor? It's carried. And this will go to Council for approval
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June 29, 2026. Now we have the information items our heritage permit
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applications tracking sheet. Are there any questions about that one? Seeing none
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who would like to adjourn the meeting.
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Thank you Councillor Chapman.