[1:07] Good morning. Testing, testing.

[1:19] So, he said it's good. Um, so then we'll check on

[1:24] public comment. Good morning. I see audit LA on the line. Do you have

[1:29] general public comment and comment our on our agenda items today?

[1:33] » Good morning, Mr. Turski. Yes, I would like um general public and uh all items,

[1:38] please. >> Wonderful. We will get to you when we

[1:40] get started. >> Thank you.

[4:31] breaking.

[9:10] So this is for

[9:34] Hello. How are you?

[9:52] Sit up here. Sit up there.

[10:07] » How nice. Everybody get 60 seconds to speak.

[10:12] Okay.

[10:19] Okay.

[10:24] Diane, hi John. How are you?

[16:42] Good morning. Thank you for everyone joining us in person and on the Zoom

[16:46] platform. I'm gonna do a call for hands raised before we get started shortly.

[16:51] Good morning, Laura. Do you have general public comment or comment on any of our

[16:54] items? >> Yes, please. General public and uh all

[16:58] items, please. >> Thank you.

[17:02] » And Georgina, good morning. I see you have your hand raised. Do you have

[17:05] general public comment or comment on any of our items today?

[17:08] » Public comment and all agenda items, please.

[17:11] » Great. Thank you.

[18:35] All right, let me put us into record mode. Okay, President Kang, we're now

[18:39] recording. I can get started. Good morning everybody and welcome to

[18:44] the regularly scheduled meeting of the board of public works for Wednesday,

[18:47] February 4th, 2026. Miss Zatski, please take role and establish quorum.

[18:53] » Of course. Good morning everyone. Devon Zatski with the board of public works

[18:57] taking role in establishing quorum. We're joined by President Kang, Vice

[19:00] President Chavez, President Prom Grant, Commissioner Mitchell, and Commissioner

[19:04] Cardinas. We're also joined by our city attorney representative, Miss Virginia

[19:08] Choy. Um, we do have public comment today and multiple item commentary all

[19:14] on the Zoom platform only today and no neighborhood council comments.

[19:18] » Thank you very much. We will get started with general public comment which is an

[19:21] opportunity for the public to address the board on public interest items and

[19:25] will be provided up to one minute per person up to a cumulative total of 10

[19:28] minutes for the general public comment segment of each regular meeting.

[19:32] Testimony shall be limited in content to subject matters which are within the

[19:35] jurisdiction of the board of public works. The board may not take any action

[19:38] on any matters discussed during the public comment period. We do not have

[19:42] any inperson speakers, so we will transition to our virtual platform.

[19:47] » Okay. Our first caller, Audit LA. Good morning. You'll have one minute for

[19:50] general public comment. >> Good morning, everyone. Um, I want to

[19:54] start off, I did ask before. I wanted to um ask for a an investigation into what

[19:59] happened with the shrine, what went wrong, and why the Bureau of Street

[20:02] Services did uh collude with CD9 and LAPD to create an area where the

[20:09] sidewalks were um they were partially closed to only open to the public that

[20:16] lived there, not to the general public, which is illegal. It's it goes against

[20:21] your page two. The city attorney's office has already ruled on that that

[20:25] no, you cannot close it is a, you know, unconstitutional to close the entire

[20:30] sidewalk to a passing public. But they did it and they had Scientologists um,

[20:35] you know, checking everyone's ID to see whether or not they belonged in that

[20:39] block and to go down that street. And I don't know in what, you know, world that

[20:43] Scientology gets to decide whether or not I get to go down a street or not. So

[20:48] I am asking you to please this is something that really needs to be

[20:51] addressed. It needs to be looked like what went wrong fix it if it's

[20:55] internally. Thank you. >> Our next caller is Laura FM. Laura,

[21:00] you'll have one minute for general public comment.

[21:05] » Hi, good morning board. Again, I would like to bring up the revocable permit

[21:11] that Elron Hubard Way. have a street that is named literally from a cult

[21:17] human trafficking abusive organization that has been getting away with this as

[21:21] you know as we've been talking about this for the last 3 years. And so we

[21:26] would like that to be able to be put on the board uh on as a as an option for

[21:32] people to vote or to be looked into specifically because a they're not

[21:36] paying their insurance that they should be paying and there's many other fees

[21:40] and the what they the reason they're using the Elron Hover naming and all of

[21:44] that is because of their manipulative tactics of pretending they own the the

[21:49] whole neighborhood in the city. So, please can we get that revocable permit

[21:54] to get rid of Elron Hubard Way and put it back to North Barendo Street? Please,

[21:58] please, please get that on the uh or give us the option for that to be. And

[22:05] then also, if you can stop giving Scientology permits, that would be

[22:12] » okay. Our next caller is Georgina. And Georgina, good morning. You'll have one

[22:15] minute for general. >> Good morning. Thank you. Yeah. The fact

[22:19] that they were IDing people are you're not allowed to have a guest that day.

[22:24] You could only use a public street owned by the public if you lived on that

[22:30] street. What if you had a guest? What if you had a delivery? What if you wanted

[22:34] to order in pizza? You're not allowed to have uh services on a day where

[22:40] Scientology happens to be doing something on that block that day. That's

[22:44] ridiculous. It's amazing that you have allowed this to happen and their

[22:49] revocable permit absolutely needs to be revoked. They should be denied all

[22:53] permits as a consequence of their excessive abuses of every single permit

[22:58] they've been given. Thank you. >> Thank you, caller. All right, President

[23:03] Kang, that is the end of our hands raised for general public comment.

[23:07] » Thank you very much. With that, we will close general public comment and move

[23:11] forward with multiple agenda item public comment. The board will provide an

[23:15] opportunity for members of the public wishing to speak on more than one agenda

[23:19] item during multiple agenda item comment period for up to a minute per item up to

[23:24] a total of three minutes. Today we only have the minutes and one agenda items.

[23:29] So you have up to two minutes um for this meeting. This is the only time to

[23:35] speak on more than one agenda item and please identify the items that you will

[23:38] speak on when you are called. We do not have any inerson speakers, so we will

[23:42] transition to our virtual platform. >> Okay, audit LA, um I see you have your

[23:48] hand raised. You'll have two minutes. Please let us know which items.

[23:52] » Good morning. Um let's start with the agenda item. Um I guess number one

[23:56] first. Uh we're talking sidewalk and street amenities. Um amenities sounds

[24:02] great. That sounds fancy and upscale. What we really need is just sidewalks

[24:07] and streets that are paved, that are passable. I am already on my going on my

[24:12] fourth set of wheels for a chair. I've only had not less than a year. It's just

[24:17] insane. Um people go with me, they get shocked how I just like I can't navigate

[24:22] so many much of it. So, I don't need amenities cuz actually the amenities

[24:26] actually block things. it blocks my um my my travel uh because a lot of times

[24:32] there's not enough room and the sidewalk is bad. But but the other sidewalk I

[24:36] want to talk about is on Elron Harbor Way and amenities there is that if you

[24:41] go down there, especially if you're a former Scientologist that wants to just

[24:45] go back to maybe heal and relive the crimes against you, that you're going to

[24:50] be chased away. You're going to be intimidated by guards, Scientology

[24:55] guards who do not have a contract with the city to guard Elron Hoverard Way

[25:00] Street or sidewalks. Their job is inside their property. That's the only place

[25:04] that they have any authority, but they want to bring authority out to the

[25:08] street and it needs to stop. It needs to be investigated. I don't know if it

[25:12] needs to be just through public works or LA DOT or if you need to do a joint task

[25:17] force to make it stop, but there cannot be a street in America anywhere where

[25:22] the citizens feel intimidated to go down, especially people who are victims

[25:27] or who, you know, or anyone. No one should be intimidated. The nurses at

[25:31] Kaiser who want to pass through, people who want to go through protest, whoever.

[25:36] Nobody should be intimidated. It needs to stop. As far as the minutes, um I'm

[25:41] really glad you're getting Graticus. I hope you utilize it to its full um

[25:45] potential with the minutes because I think it's really important and it's not

[25:49] anything about, oh, we want to re we want to it's to see what we're saying.

[25:53] No, we just want it documented. >> We've been persistent with this.

[25:57] » Thank you. >> Our next caller is Laura FM. Laura,

[26:01] you'll have two minutes for minutes in item number one.

[26:04] » Thank you. I'm going to also uh echo Audit LA's comment there just now and um

[26:12] again with the minutes. Same with the just being able to have something that

[26:16] shows uh you know that the public call in and and but put in there exactly what

[26:23] it is. There's a system now that you'll be able to use and hopefully that will

[26:27] do that. But it's it's one thing if you feel like, oh, you're just, you know,

[26:32] you can't really do anything or you got something going on and some, you know,

[26:36] sometimes the permits and all this takes time and maybe you're sitting

[26:39] there like thinking you can't do anything. These are certain things you

[26:42] can do. It helps people like me who were raised in the cult of Scientology to

[26:46] show that look, these are the things that they're doing, infiltrating public

[26:50] works and public the city sidewalks and stuff like that by having fake programs,

[26:56] fake permits, fake street names, all of this. All of it does wind up on you guys

[27:01] and on the board of public works. So, I really do appreciate the whole thing

[27:05] with the minutes and that you do have granite kiss now to be able to reflect

[27:09] that because we need that reflection as the children born and raised in this

[27:13] cult that has destroyed our families. We need that reflection so

[27:17] that later we can go and show the judges and the court people what what legally

[27:23] what's going on and why Scientology is so manipulative and abusive in public

[27:27] works in the city. So, thank you for that and I yield my time. please revoke

[27:32] their sign their permit on Elron Hardway.

[27:34] » Thank you caller. Our next caller is Georgina. Georgina,

[27:39] you'll have two minutes for minutes and item number one.

[27:43] » Yeah, I'd like to speak on minutes first. I'm super excited about the

[27:47] prospects that will come with Granus. I expect great things from you guys. U as

[27:53] far as your YouTube channel goes, the fact that every video has the exact same

[27:58] name. I mean, I'm just asking bare minimum from you guys. Throw in a date.

[28:04] Make those records researchable. How are you supposed to look up anything when

[28:08] you have thousands of videos each with the exact same title? That's really uh

[28:14] shoddy worksmanship. I expect better. I'm just asking for bare minimum. Uh, as

[28:19] far as agenda item number one, um, sidewalk repairs and sidewalk amenities,

[28:26] you know what amenity I would like to see? I would like the public sidewalk to

[28:32] be publicly accessible to people. The fact that they deny access to the public

[28:38] on a public sidewalk. What gives them the right? They don't own the sidewalk.

[28:43] It's ridiculous. You need to do better. Thank you. I yield back my time. Thank

[28:48] you, caller. Um, all right, President Kang, that's the end of our hands raised

[28:51] on the Zoom platform. We have one. >> Thank you very much. I know we uh closed

[28:58] general public comment, but multiple is open. And so, I want to call up Jill

[29:01] Jill Scientology. You have up to two minutes since we only have two.

[29:06] » Thank you. Um, the reason why I'm late is because our public work is doing a

[29:10] great job. So I'm very happy I lose my minutes because I'm seeing our public

[29:15] work is doing the real work. So that's why the bus is delayed. So stop uh

[29:19] talking about the minutes is that um I'm here to support our um public work

[29:24] directors because in the past year actually past several years I've heard

[29:29] multiple comments attacking on the all department officials uh uh protest on

[29:35] all department appointment or or whether is LAPD chief, the public work director,

[29:42] you know the mayor, the city council, uh those are criminal protesters, they are

[29:46] just never happy with anyone. with anything. So I am here I'm the only one

[29:51] in Los Angeles who want to voice our support that our public work department

[29:57] needs improvement. There are room for improvement but at least I want to voice

[30:01] my support to all agency directors in public works even though I am the only

[30:06] one who support them. Uh number two, let's talking about the sidewalk issues.

[30:11] Yes, sidewalk issues. Um again I am here to support our Bureau of Street

[30:17] Services, Bureau of Sanitation. They need improvement but they are doing a

[30:22] decent job. I want to give them a huge round of applause. And then one of my

[30:26] friend DOA, one of my brother DOA actually uh lost um lost his truck his

[30:32] van uh due to his uh um ex-wife is a is a theft or whatever and then uh they

[30:39] steal his van and then the van was actually broken because of the broken

[30:43] sidewalk because of the broken street surfaces, right? So definitely I really

[30:49] wish uh my friend DOA can get his truck back and I definitely wish that in the

[30:53] future when we have a old old cheap car we don't have to uh damage our car just

[30:59] driving on the surface of the street support public work. Thank you sir.

[31:04] » Thank you very much. Do we have any other speakers on the queue?

[31:08] » No. >> All right. Thank you very much. With

[31:11] that, we will close multiple item public comment portion of today's meeting and

[31:15] move forward with the approval of minutes for Monday, January 26, 2026.

[31:21] Uh, commissioners, any questions or comments? Seeing no other discussion, is

[31:25] there a first and a second? >> So move.

[31:27] » Second. >> First by President Proim Grant, seconded

[31:30] by Commissioner Cardness. >> We will take the roll call starting with

[31:34] you. President K. >> I.

[31:36] » Vice President Chavez. >> I.

[31:38] » President Prom Grant. >> Hi. Um, Commissioner Mitchell.

[31:42] » And Commissioner Cardes. >> Hi.

[31:43] » Great. All eyes. The minutes are approved.

[31:46] » Thank you very much. Moving on to agenda item number one, sidewalk and transit

[31:51] amenities program from the Bureau of Street Services.

[31:58] » Good morning. Uh, good morning President Kang, uh, commissioners and city uh,

[32:04] representative. Um, I'm here today to My name is Kenneth Tang. I am the uh

[32:10] contract administrator for our sidewalk transit amendy program. Um today we're

[32:15] here to provide an oral um presentation and then give you some update on the

[32:21] previous uh two quarter starting July 1st to the end of the calendar year and

[32:27] um we wanted to provide context for three major item right first one is

[32:33] relating to the overall structure the contract how we doing is this new

[32:38] contract work and yes that's the uh uh bottom line of that The second piece is

[32:45] the implementation and roll out pace. How are we doing? Are we improving? And

[32:50] the answer is also a yes in that one. And the third and final piece and a lot

[32:54] of uh focus from you all for maintenance. And we also here to provide

[32:59] you some updated result from our audit and brings you with the number and the

[33:05] recommendation on how to proceed. Uh with that, starting off with the

[33:10] contract. Uh for those of you who are not aware um staff uh contract is very

[33:16] um uh innovative and h very uh new we are uh receiving over 65 and a half% of

[33:24] revenue on each of the advertisement revenue. The rest go to the uh contract

[33:29] to maintain and sell advertisement. And this is a new model. Um and the only

[33:34] caveat for this particular contract is we have to invest in initial capital. Um

[33:41] with that said the number that have been showing is very promising over the past

[33:47] two quarter that reported we have over 7 uh 38 million reported in uh as a

[33:53] revenue from the advertisement. portion that come to the city and that is the

[33:58] highest we ever received uh for any two consecutive quarter in the entire

[34:03] history of the program. Um the other number that I want to show

[34:08] is that since the beginning of the contract in 2022 2023 we have received

[34:14] over 36 uh million dollar. This number is significant because that

[34:21] is represent over 40% of what the previous contract were able

[34:27] to made over 20 years. So three year we already more than almost halfway through

[34:34] the uh what the previous contract was able to make. So uh the bottom line here

[34:40] is that this structure work and uh you see in the revenue um that is continue

[34:46] to grow and we anticipate to continue to grow in the coming year as the we build

[34:50] out more structure. Uh we anticipate we can bring up to uh

[34:55] $60 million for the city um in the when fully built out in 2032.

[35:01] The next item I want to uh talk about a little bit is the pace of

[35:05] implementations. Uh the goal for the program is to bring uh uh put in 3,000

[35:10] transit shelter uh 450 shaped structure and a few a bunch of other amenity as

[35:16] part of the staff program. Um so that's why it's important for us to create a

[35:21] process and a pace that we can sustain with the funding right and uh I'm happy

[35:27] to report that we for the most part have uh resolved the logistic of each

[35:32] department and process to get the location built and install the shelter.

[35:37] There are some uh uh administrative and there's some other smaller uh resource

[35:43] issue with vious department that continue to be the pipeline and

[35:48] constraint for the program to fully uh um roll out but at least we have the

[35:55] process established uh we're not figuring out for the first time it's

[35:58] become a more steady rate now we're working on controlling that pace

[36:03] um I also happy to report that during the that quarter we also resolve a

[36:08] pending SQA challenge to the program. So those are fully uh resolved and that's

[36:15] allow our program to uh uh uh get more freedom to actually do a lot of what we

[36:21] need to do for the program. Um we also increased capacity. We had uh funded uh

[36:30] 12 position at BSL which allow us to increase uh the ability for us to access

[36:36] BSL lighting and repair to our shelter. Um and we are hitting uh uh over 200

[36:44] service requests that um BSL support us on meaning we also help

[36:51] fix light as part of our program. So it's not just shelter program. We also

[36:56] bring some of the light uh infrastructure uh back online.

[37:01] I'm also uh happy to report that we continue to build partnership with Metro

[37:05] who is one of the largest transit operator in the in the region. Um and

[37:11] that partnership include um integrating our shelter design into

[37:17] their uh bus rapid transit corridor along Vermont and a nohole to Pasadena

[37:25] corridor. What that mean is they will be uh using our transit shelter on those

[37:30] stations allowing us to put advertisement on those platform. So it's

[37:35] revenue that's uh investment into the initial capital for the program that we

[37:39] continue to sustain and use advertisement to continue maintain them.

[37:43] We are working on finalizing the detail. Those will come to you once we have all

[37:48] the maintenance and the uh final uh um agreement uh in place with metro. But

[37:54] it's a exciting collaboration with Metro and we want to have a uniform uh look

[38:00] and feel across the region that this is about stop.

[38:06] Um the uh final thing that I want to uh

[38:11] bring up is that the program is rolling forward and we anticipate we will meet

[38:17] our goal this year. Um there are some constraint around material procurement.

[38:22] It's a nationwide issue but we anticipate we will be able to resolve

[38:26] those uh quickly and um uh bring to the uh goal for the year. Finally, the meat

[38:34] of the report, the maintenance and this is something that uh we are um very

[38:41] thorough in our uh investigation so that we present to you with fact and with a

[38:47] matrix that can represent the actual issue at hand.

[38:51] So from our uh uh analysis so far we uh see

[38:58] there is a traumatic increase in the number of requests and uh uh maintenance

[39:05] issue at bus stop. Um unfortunately this is not just at bus stop. Bus stop

[39:10] doesn't live in that uh isolated bubble. This is a a city-wide kind of uh issue

[39:17] that increase in vandalism and other uh type of requests is generally a trending

[39:24] across the city. But let me just report on staff program for the last two

[39:29] quarter.

[39:32] Um over the last two quarter we have over 3,000 vandalism requests open and

[39:39] closed. graffiti specifically

[39:43] um and sticker on those shelter. We have over 2,157

[39:49] uh report and and and address. Uh we also

[39:55] have quite a few broken glass and uh panel repair that happened at these bus

[40:01] stop over 900 of those. So um overall the last two quarter is following the

[40:08] same trends we saw uh over the past five years and I can go into more detail

[40:14] about the uh overall trend as well as part of the audit report but um the last

[40:22] two quarter total over 6,500

[40:28] um service requests was received and closed. that's averaging more than a

[40:33] thousand per month. So it is a a a big hall for um us to uh

[40:41] uh address and this is a systematic thing that we want to uh talk to you all

[40:46] about some of the potential solution that we propose moving forward. But

[40:50] before we dive into the uh solution, I do want to bring up a uh request by you

[40:57] all about the audit itself. how what was the result of it and what was the

[41:01] recommendation that came out of it. So the audit look at the data from 2019 uh

[41:07] pre- pandemic all the way till 2025 and this examination is looking at the

[41:14] trend of different kind of service requests that we receive and um here are

[41:19] some of the highlight we had received an increase of over 200%

[41:25] of graffiti incident over that past year five years we received over uh another

[41:32] 67% % increase since 2019. Uh overflow of trash and legal dumping

[41:38] over 400% increase since 2015 uh 2019. Total work order for the entire uh uh um

[41:47] staff program had increased over 200%. So the bottom line is uh it's a

[41:56] issue that we see trending that cannot be addressed

[42:01] only with the current contract obligations.

[42:06] And on that note, the contractor are performing above and beyond uh what is

[42:13] listed on a contract on a regular basis. They are visiting each site over uh um

[42:20] two and a half time uh per furniture per weeks. So two and a half time uh per

[42:27] weeks per furniture. Uh the contract only require about 1.6

[42:33] per weeks. So

[42:38] they are uh meeting the application and beyond. Uh the challenge right now is

[42:44] more than just the uh contract themsel not uh performing or not performing up

[42:50] to par is the increased volume of vandalism and all these requests.

[42:57] Uh our recommendation and step forward

[43:02] we uh are working on a uh privatization exercise to

[43:08] target location that consider hotspot. So there will be more uh stopped by

[43:15] these uh contractor at that hotspot locations and then less on the other

[43:21] that doesn't need that same cleaning or have other kind of resource that already

[43:26] associate with it. Maybe a bit is already taking care of some of these

[43:30] spot, right? So, we wanted to make sure that we have a a method that fairly

[43:36] judge where location is needed more or less and monitor it, not just release it

[43:40] after we change the um the schedule maintenance. The second thing we also

[43:46] plan to do is lessen the target of uh thing at the amenity for people to tag

[43:52] on. Remove the back panel where it's not needed. This is like a white uh back

[43:57] panel that people place um for various reason but if it's not needed for that

[44:03] location we'll remove it and that would be less things for people to tag on. The

[44:08] a few other thing that uh our program is also uh working on is an audit of the

[44:14] other side of the house

[44:20] at bus stop right now. Um there's two major player right. Uh one is the

[44:25] shelter over 2,000 of them. The other one we have over almost 56 5700 bus

[44:33] bench that also require the same maintenance. So we are auding the other

[44:38] side of the house to see how we can marriage this and align the way they do

[44:42] things out there so that it's not just optimizing a shelter and not taking care

[44:47] of the bench contract. And that's something that we are working on and we

[44:52] will present with you a separate audit for the bus bench and that would lead to

[44:56] our recommendation also for a renewal or the uh request of proposal for a new bus

[45:03] bench contract. And finally, uh we are anticipate to

[45:09] submit to the board for a campaign for keeping our bus stop clean to help uh uh

[45:15] um you get information out there how to get our shelter clean and help keep the

[45:18] shelter clean because it's not just a solution with uh with our contract

[45:23] continue to increase the maintenance but also community uh buying in and also own

[45:28] that location that's amenity for them. So we also like to have that campaign

[45:34] and work with you all to sponsor these and so that we can uh put that out there

[45:38] on our shelter as part of the public service announcement.

[45:43] Um finally just conclude the maintenance issue. Uh we understand that a a lot of

[45:48] eyes on bus stop because it's the most visible and a lot of people stop by it.

[45:53] Um but it is a more broader issue and we would recommend if uh uh with your

[46:01] leadership to help bring stakeholder together and we will be at the table to

[46:07] talk about how all the amenity that under staff program and the bus bench

[46:12] program can support the entirety but uh we are not the only player at the table.

[46:18] There are a few other that also uh work at bus stop and we would like to uh

[46:23] under your leadership to bring that uh cohesiveness across the department and

[46:29] other entity to help address the bus stop cleanliness issue. And with that I

[46:34] conclude my oral presentation. Um let me know if you have any question or other

[46:39] uh clarification you would like to hear.

[46:45] » Thank you very much. Um, I have several questions, but commissioners, uh,

[46:50] Commissioner Mitchell, >> thank you for your report. Do I

[46:54] understand you say that there's a court challenge pending

[46:58] » as to the program? >> Can you repeat

[47:01] » a court challenge pending >> uh

[47:05] » lawsuit? >> As far as I know, we don't have any

[47:08] pending. >> Okay.

[47:09] » All the uh um legal challenge to the program have been resolved.

[47:15] » Okay. And with regard to these maintenance repair issues

[47:20] pursuant to the contract is who's responsible for maintenance of the

[47:24] staff? >> Uh a contractor named Shelter Clean.

[47:27] They've been in uh and maintain our shelter over 40 years. So you have some

[47:31] recommendations with regard to because of the overwhelming need and obviously

[47:37] you mentioned the current contractual obligation doesn't really address it

[47:42] adequately because of the number of requests for service right

[47:47] » that's correct uh we do have the list recommendation that we provide earlier

[47:52] they are more smaller uh recommendation uh but we like to try all these other

[47:58] thing before revisiting contract negotiations.

[48:03] » Okay. If if possible, I'd like to be further briefed on it. Maybe we can

[48:07] discuss some some resolutions. It might be like you said with regard to any

[48:12] further contracts that we let we might need to be a little bit more creative

[48:17] about how we address ongoing maintenance issues. It's kind of hard with graffiti

[48:23] abatement all over graffiti all over the city in terms of how to prevent it andor

[48:30] act on it sooner given the uh as large as the city is these issues aren't

[48:37] confined to any particular area. They're all over so to speak even to the extent

[48:42] that you know even city signs get graffiti or we with regard to the

[48:46] protest we've had with regard to ice and those issues we find that you know even

[48:52] the the pavement gets graffiti so I don't know how to address that maybe

[48:58] we can talk about that further and develop some ideas and maybe it's also

[49:04] possibility of talking about how other cities may address similar concerns.

[49:10] Thank you. >> Thank you,

[49:14] » commissioners. Um I'm happy to ask a couple questions. So I um I'm a little

[49:21] puzzled by um the findings in your audit because that is not what I've seen and

[49:28] that is not what I hear. And um I think all of us here recently got an email

[49:34] from a constituent saying they reported on January 21. It's been 10 days no

[49:41] change. The first staff that was installed Western and Olympic

[49:47] that's been heavily graffiti damaged for over a month. So,

[49:55] you're saying they're going above and beyond, and I know there are challenges

[50:00] uh um for graffiti and others, but our in my estimation, I think our graffiti

[50:05] contractors are doing a better job of removing graffiti when reported most are

[50:12] completed within 48 to 72 hours. um and staff there's no funding issue because

[50:20] clearly the revenue is there and Transto is uh an external third party vendor so

[50:26] they're not restricted by many of the city processes so I'm not sure where um

[50:33] the disconnect is happening um and I'm sure we'll have further thoughts but in

[50:39] the current contract um what is their um contractual agreement to visit Is it?

[50:46] How often do they need to visit each shelter?

[50:50] » So, at minimum uh let me just give you a quick rundown on this uh number. um

[50:57] regular uh visit on-site visual uh they have to do at least weekly uh 100% of

[51:05] the time or 100 of the sh uh% of the shelter hotspot

[51:10] uh all the preventative and regular maintenance they have to do three time

[51:14] per weeks up to 30% of the total inventory that we have deep

[51:20] cleaning power washing um and structural repair they have to you 100%

[51:28] uh at least once per year uh every six months.

[51:34] » Every six month. Every six month at least once.

[51:38] So, if you're saying they're visiting each shelter once a week,

[51:43] clearly they're not visiting um once a week and we're only at 3

[51:51] and uh 32 shelter constructed with the goal of 3,000. [snorts]

[51:59] I don't think the graffiti issue is going anywhere anytime soon. So, I I

[52:03] think this board is very concerned. Um, I'm sure you heard that the mayor just

[52:08] announced a new clean corridor initiative on major corridors and these

[52:14] staff shelters are installed on ma many of these you know major corridors and if

[52:20] you know we're the city is maintaining our responsibility of cleaning the

[52:25] streets and the sidewalks and the weed abatement but if the staff shelters

[52:30] are looking like it is today that is going to be very problematic. So

[52:37] » yeah, um just one one more point of clarification. Um the 300 is a new one

[52:42] that we put in the we still have over 1,600 of legacy shelter that's still

[52:50] being maintained uh to transition out. So total we have over 1,800

[52:56] shelter with trash receptacle and many of those site to still to be maintained.

[53:01] With that though uh we also have the same kind of input from constituent and

[53:07] various entity about this kind of maintenance concern. One of the thing

[53:11] that we um express and put in other budget request in the coming year is to

[53:17] get more eyes and ear to better quality control the uh contractor. Currently our

[53:25] staff is small and focusing on a lot of implementation and uh overseeing the

[53:31] service requests uh that coming in and make sure the contract perform those the

[53:35] quality and the level of service that we need for them to perform would need

[53:42] additional staff for us to keep an eye out there. It doesn't have to be all us.

[53:45] It could be other people who help monitor this constituent um bit who see

[53:50] things we like to see that those reported to us so we can actually keep

[53:55] these contractor uh and hold them to their quality of that we expect. So we

[54:03] understand on the uh audit itself it's based on purely number that uh was

[54:08] reported based on the system that was generated by the system. How uh the

[54:13] quality of their work at each of these location we uh request that we have

[54:19] additional staff to help us monitor these kind of uh uh and manage that

[54:24] activity uh better. So what what would be are there any penalties or

[54:29] repercussions about not them not meeting the contractual obligations?

[54:35] » Yes. So there is ability for us to site them for the first incident that they uh

[54:41] don't meet that obligation is a $200 and then

[54:44] » how many how much >> uh $250. Let me just get that number for

[54:47] you. Exactly. >> Per per site

[54:50] » per incident >> per incident.

[54:51] » So we report it and they didn't address it. Right. that's escalate um and we can

[54:57] do as many as so this become hey get it done right

[55:01] » what if it wasn't reported but they're not doing their weekly checks

[55:06] » uh the system that they are reporting in shonet that they are um if the narrative

[55:12] and the what we shown out there isn't uh aligned

[55:16] we will uh dive deeper into those uh number as well um and also perform

[55:23] additional internal audit about the uh quality rather than the number of visit.

[55:30] Um again the process right now because of staffing uh issue for our bureau we

[55:37] focus on the higher level management of the program and in order for us to go

[55:41] out there and do more of quality check spot by spot on a regular basis we uh

[55:46] asked to get more resource and we did request it as part of the upcoming year

[55:49] budget >> and anything higher than the 250. Yes.

[55:53] Uh this an escalating cost I can provide it back to you here. Uh the second

[55:59] incident this increase to additional cost the third incident. So it's an

[56:04] escalating and will continue until they address the issue. Um so again I think

[56:09] the the major thing that we can hold them to the fire is report get more

[56:13] people to report and keep an eye on it and so that we can um

[56:18] uh see whether they are meeting that obligation or not and we can use that to

[56:22] help them um change their uh practice. What would be the the the the most

[56:29] severe penalty that the city can levy on Transito?

[56:35] » Will be the contract itself, right? Uh but that's a very um extreme

[56:42] end. Um but uh there is a financial uh penalty for each incident that can be

[56:49] imposed until resolved and it could be very significant for a uh contractor

[56:54] that uh optim operating at their um at the very optimal of their program.

[57:02] Their people are uh working really really really uh uh stretch forward to

[57:08] make to meet the city need right now. So it is will be a big penalty if we start

[57:13] issuing those citations. >> The last question and then I'll have um

[57:18] the commissioners chime in as well is so after they are reported um how how

[57:24] quickly do they need to respond? What's the expectation?

[57:28] » So for emergency within 24 hour broken glass or something like that that you

[57:33] know caused some harm um a car hit it or something we need to address it and

[57:37] remove the the uh the the the the challenge out of the way at least

[57:44] mitigate it right. Um we might take some more time to replace the glass and other

[57:48] thing because it take time to order those in but uh they have to get someone

[57:52] out there within 24 hour. the uh regular request uh the obligation for uh the

[57:58] contract is within the week. >> Within one week, you're saying

[58:03] » one week. >> One week.

[58:06] » Okay. Um Commissioner uh President Tim Grant.

[58:15] » That's all. I may have not turned on my mic. Um, I may have not heard this, but

[58:20] with respect to the scheduled visits, every site is supposed to be visited

[58:27] weekly. >> That's right.

[58:29] » Do we have is there a report out of just because they visit it, do they maintain

[58:36] or clean it or they just I mean it could just be a driveby with no action taken.

[58:40] So apart from the request where someone takes the initiative a resident takes

[58:45] the initiative on their own I think what one aspect we're looking at is what is

[58:49] the obligation responsibility that transito is taking when they visit

[58:55] every week do we know how many repairs how many um

[59:00] cleaning up um repairing that they're doing each week do we get a report

[59:07] » we do um and that's also part of the audit that was reported out. Um

[59:14] the visit is a primary driver on getting the eye out there and generate work for

[59:20] location that need uh power washing. They will be uh creating a a new uh work

[59:26] order for them to go out and and actually perform those power washing. So

[59:31] um we have the work order creation associated with each site after that

[59:35] visit. >> Okay. And

[59:37] » we have those we have those numbers for each week. How many power washes, how

[59:41] many repairs are being done. >> That's correct.

[59:44] » And that's where the number that I report at beginning of the uh

[59:47] presentation came from. The number of vandalism, the number of graffiti. So

[59:52] those are recorded uh uh as part of that visit.

[59:55] » And similarly on the hotspots which are visited three times a week,

[1:00:01] my assumption would be that there are repairs or washing

[1:00:07] at least one of those three three visits a week. Correct.

[1:00:11] » Can you repeat? >> Well, there's the hotspots are visited

[1:00:14] three times a week as I understood. >> That's correct.

[1:00:18] » And we have report on those of of those three visits a week for the hotspots.

[1:00:24] What actions been taken on those? Is that also listed in the audit?

[1:00:29] So similar uh on the regular location the hotspot get the same type of uh

[1:00:36] treatment um just more frequence uh trash or empty and any loose debris

[1:00:41] graffiti uh stickers and stuff get removed right so those uh hotspot is

[1:00:47] increased frequencies >> and the list of hotspots how is that

[1:00:52] determined and how often is that updated?

[1:00:55] So the hotspot itself um the list is determined by the number of work order

[1:01:00] that's get generated >> by the number of what

[1:01:03] » the work order uh that generated per of each of these location um the

[1:01:10] rep prioritization or revising that list it's uh based on adjustment of that work

[1:01:16] order that get generated. Um we uh as part of this exercise we want to

[1:01:23] incorporate a more thorough way to prioritize.

[1:01:27] Uh when we consider hotspot it may not be the same as how they see as hot spot

[1:01:32] for them is just the number of frequency >> right for us it's also including the

[1:01:36] important of those locations and the uh uh how uh the cleanliness uh that also

[1:01:43] provide by external entity at that locations. So again this

[1:01:49] is something that we would like to revisit oursel in the coming month to

[1:01:52] rep prioritize those hot spot

[1:01:58] » and we happy to share those result. >> Thank you v uh vice president chavez.

[1:02:05] » Thank you. Um I had some questions about um just the rate. I know that there has

[1:02:14] been challenges on the installations with parts procurement, you know,

[1:02:19] delays, um, initial uh, challenges with um, coordination. Um, how are we today

[1:02:28] in terms of the rate of installations, the coordination with the, you know,

[1:02:36] internal bureaus and public works, both BSL and BCA as well as LWP. Are we in a

[1:02:42] good place? And what's our rate of installation currently?

[1:02:47] » So, um, our current, uh, rate of installation is roughly around, um, 20,

[1:02:55] uh, or so per month. Um, so about one to two per day. Um the like I brought up at

[1:03:04] the beginning of the presentation we know

[1:03:09] what are the landscape of the implementation are. Now the challenge

[1:03:14] here is within that parameter or that landscape. How can we make things

[1:03:18] faster?

[1:03:22] The main bottleneck for us right now is the ability to energize and activate our

[1:03:29] shelter with DGP. And this is a resource constraint um that uh we

[1:03:36] seeing on a regular basis. We install a shelter out there that's have no power

[1:03:41] until someone go out there and connect us to power and in some cases we wait a

[1:03:45] while. Um so that's where uh where we are in term of that me primary uh

[1:03:52] bottleneck for us is that uh resource uh constraint to come out and do our

[1:03:58] energization at bus stop. And are you staff actively working at um

[1:04:05] improving you know whether it's expediting or um improving the

[1:04:11] coordination or whatever information that is needed is this more on the LWP

[1:04:16] like permitting side or is this just what like where is the source of getting

[1:04:23] the approvals I know it's it depends but >> correct

[1:04:27] » most of them >> uh to answer your question we are in in

[1:04:31] fact we have a regular check-in with each of these department every on a

[1:04:35] weekly some case bi-weekly basis and DP is one of them. Um the uh permitting and

[1:04:42] the review side I think we're at a pace that we're comfortable to uh move things

[1:04:47] along. Um but the constraint is the construction crew that need to go out

[1:04:54] there and actually connect us to power or um you know um create a new service

[1:05:00] location for our program. So it's more of the field side that is concerned and

[1:05:05] this is something that we understand that there are other demand on their on

[1:05:10] them across the city. They are not only supporting staff program. So they are uh

[1:05:15] doing what they can uh in term of process it's an ongoing thing and we uh

[1:05:20] have there at the table with us to figure out the challenge but again I

[1:05:24] think this is bottom line is resource um to how we can bring more shelter online

[1:05:31] each day we don't energize we lose money right and bus stop will be less safe

[1:05:40] how can we bring our bus stop priority above of uh some of the other um it's a

[1:05:46] significant loss and we won't get it back. Once you lose that advertisement

[1:05:51] window, you're not going to regain that money back for the city.

[1:05:55] » So, what's the plan to address that? >> So,

[1:05:59] uh we've been uh in active communication with EDP to see uh the commitment that

[1:06:05] they uh are willing to um go out there and address on a weekly basis. um 10 to

[1:06:12] 12 location per weeks. We are um not seeing that number yet for various

[1:06:18] reason. Maybe there are you know a rain events or um other uh uh holiday issue.

[1:06:26] We have not seen the 10 or 12 that we were expecting and that's become a main

[1:06:31] bottleneck for our program.

[1:06:35] And so and so the bottleneck on the utility coordination I understand that

[1:06:41] um is not necessarily revenue funded but the positions at street services and

[1:06:48] street lighting are correct NBCA as well right there's they're basically it's

[1:06:52] this unique model where we're specifically have identified positions

[1:06:57] and funding to to um cover the cost of that work because this is revenue

[1:07:03] generating for the city. Um, have there have there been or do you expect any

[1:07:10] future impacts to those staffing levels given the budget situation? Have you

[1:07:17] heard of any potential issues um coming down the frey so that we know

[1:07:23] uh because again these are revenue funded. They're not special funded per

[1:07:27] se, but they're revenue fund. They're revenue generating positions. So I want

[1:07:31] to make sure that um wanted to hear from you if there's any concerns on the

[1:07:36] budgeting side. >> The projected staff revenue is uh like I

[1:07:42] reported it's continue to look positive and stable moving forward. Uh at the

[1:07:48] very least we can uh sustain the the existing staff that is funded right for

[1:07:53] BCA, BSL and uh BCA BSS. Um but again the uh constraint of other department

[1:08:04] that is not funded by our revenue is where we run into issue. We don't fund

[1:08:09] them and we don't control that pace. Um but our revenue on our side it continue

[1:08:15] to uh be positive and look like the trend is

[1:08:20] growing. So we don't see that as an issue. Where that become an issue is as

[1:08:25] the program uh grow we need to install more site the capital for those are

[1:08:30] taking from the same bucket of money and so that's where uh as the trends grow we

[1:08:36] like to also uh uh do more site um based on those uh revenue increase um but we

[1:08:44] don't anticipate seeing the the the uh funding for that part uh decreasing. Uh

[1:08:50] we also seeing a lot of interest in grant developer and metro specifically

[1:08:56] to invest into uh bus stop infrastructure.

[1:09:00] Um in fact uh in next few weeks I'll be coming before the board asking for

[1:09:07] authorization to execute part of year two of our agreement with Metro which is

[1:09:13] worth around $16 million that Metro will be investing into staff program. So in

[1:09:18] term of funding I don't anticipate that we have uh that major uh challenge

[1:09:24] moving forward but I think the pace and the control of the installation will

[1:09:28] become a major issue for at least the the folk outside the the department the

[1:09:34] the sphere influenced by the staff program.

[1:09:37] » Okay. And then shifting over to maintenance, your your report talks

[1:09:42] about um the obviously the overwhelming

[1:09:47] maintenance demands that were not foreseen when we issued the contract. Um

[1:09:53] but obviously it's a new day and we're seeing increases

[1:09:59] um of dramatic proportions that that we haven't seen in a long time. I see that

[1:10:05] um the contractor did submit a plan in October

[1:10:12] outlining data driven strategies um and reallocating maintenance resources. Have

[1:10:17] any of these been implemented? >> So the uh reason why we Oh, so we have

[1:10:23] implemented one of the um back panel removal at Saba Pacific site. The reason

[1:10:29] why we uh are taking a slower action is because we need to justify each of these

[1:10:36] actions because we are taking a certain maintenance activity for location and

[1:10:40] put it somewhere else. We need to be uh uh make sure that we do a systematic and

[1:10:45] show that this actually doesn't have a negative impact on the location that

[1:10:49] getting less right. That's why we create wanted to make sure we create a

[1:10:53] structure to actually review each of these location each of these action so

[1:10:58] that we don't uh um just broadly put out a lot of these initiative without

[1:11:04] monitoring and seeing result before we put it out citywide. So the one that I'm

[1:11:10] uh bringing uh a talk about today is the back panel removal, right? We uh working

[1:11:16] on a few uh removal to see how would that work first. Did that uh removing

[1:11:21] that panel actually uh lessen the graffiti or people simply put the

[1:11:28] graffiti on another part of the shelter? So we want to study and make sure that

[1:11:32] we're not just implement a solution citywide without having a thought and a

[1:11:36] a a process to review whether something is uh working effectively or not. So uh

[1:11:43] that's where it take us a time to uh develop that process and see make sure

[1:11:46] that these uh uh approach that we that proposed are roll out in a methodical

[1:11:52] methodical uh fashions. Um but again we are uh at that phase that we are able to

[1:11:59] see more of those roll out um of these solution that proposed by the the the

[1:12:04] contractor because we have the uh process in place now. So you'll see um

[1:12:10] few location here with shelter back panel remove the location hotspot that

[1:12:15] get shift around and monitor the effectiveness of this. So um again we at

[1:12:19] that stage where we can start seeing a lot of those improvement.

[1:12:23] Okay. Can you include in the next update more detail about what's been

[1:12:28] implemented and when and what the, you know, what the data shows in terms of

[1:12:33] has this been effective or not? Because if this was submitted in October, now

[1:12:37] we're in February and you're um waiting to justify I'm still unclear by whom. Um

[1:12:45] and then you're testing certain thing ideas right now. Is that is that

[1:12:50] correct? Are you in the process of testing certain things? That's correct.

[1:12:54] So let me give you just a quick example. >> Back panel. It's simple, right? Just

[1:12:58] remove it. >> But uh we are looking at a parameter on

[1:13:02] what criteria should we select to remove those back panel because there are uh if

[1:13:07] it's behind a gas station that could use it for a barrier against um traffic. So

[1:13:12] there all criteria need to be created to see hey what is a a list of location

[1:13:18] that we can test out without um have major impact but also measuring what is

[1:13:23] success look like uh decrease by 5% is that effective or

[1:13:29] increase by 50%. So that kind of a success uh matrix we know that this is

[1:13:35] uh something that we should be um execute uh as fast as we can as well. Uh

[1:13:40] but we want to do it methodically so that we don't uh uh roll this out

[1:13:44] citywide and seeing a bigger uh um uh blowback on the the the new solutions. I

[1:13:53] mean, I know we tend to address the symptoms as as opposed to the root

[1:13:58] causes of vandalism and dumping and graffiti. Um,

[1:14:06] but I'm just curious if if what if any coordination currently exists with LAPD

[1:14:11] or sanitation or homeless outreach teams or office of community beautifification,

[1:14:17] graffiti abatement teams. Are you sharing is this information being

[1:14:20] shared? Like for example, if there's a serious um issue, you know, at a

[1:14:26] shelter, I would hope that that's being reported. Uh it's a public safety item,

[1:14:31] but I just think information sharing, especially hotspots, is that being

[1:14:35] actively shared with with with other departments.

[1:14:40] » So for the uh uh trash receptacle, that's the one of primary one that we

[1:14:45] coordinate with. >> I'm sorry, what?

[1:14:46] » Trash receptacle. >> Oh, trash recept. Yeah.

[1:14:48] » Yeah. This is the one that we primary coordinate a lot with sanitations and so

[1:14:52] uh sanitation uh actually getting a lot of their um

[1:14:57] requests uh and routed to our program when it is on our shelter or on our

[1:15:01] bench. So that coordination happened during the service request stage

[1:15:08] and where I think we uh need to take a step further is actually identify site

[1:15:12] that need more of those trash receptacle cleanliness of

[1:15:18] this area need an increase whether that from that from the staff uh program or

[1:15:22] the bus program or sanitation right I think that's there's a gap that we can

[1:15:26] improve there um the uh other discussion around LAPD uh this something that is an

[1:15:33] ongoing uh issue. We have repeated location that have

[1:15:38] vandalism, breaking glasses, same location and this is uh uh with the

[1:15:43] support from LAPD. We report those uh to make sure it get into a record so that

[1:15:49] uh further investigation and track down on uh perpetrator

[1:15:54] uh in term of graffiti abatement with OCB and other this is an area also that

[1:16:00] we wanted to bring all the pieces together. Um as I mentioned at the

[1:16:05] beginning of the uh or report we um our bureau uh and our program will continue

[1:16:10] to optimize the way bus stop with our amenity uh uh maintains. Uh but again

[1:16:17] we're not the only one. uh if we uh you know continue uh have

[1:16:23] conversation and with your leadership to bring a lot of these energy to the table

[1:16:28] would really appreciate and bring our uh solution more holistic rather than just

[1:16:33] individual location or individual program that have a certain

[1:16:39] stake at bus stop. So yes um I agree that's the next uh uh piece that we uh

[1:16:46] would be interested in continue that conversation with other identity other

[1:16:49] agency to uh improve that uh quality of service.

[1:16:55] » Okay. So I mean I would recommend we put together a working group with um all the

[1:17:01] affected entities. I want LA sanitation there. I want OCB there and their

[1:17:06] contractors. Um we need someone from LAPD. I think that um and you know also

[1:17:12] the homeless outreach teams. I think that this is I've seen a lot of camping

[1:17:16] at staff locations. Um I think we need to sort of address sort of deterrence

[1:17:25] um deterrence. Uh I know a novel concept. Um things like you know

[1:17:31] enhanced cameras, lighting, extra lighting. You know are there street

[1:17:36] lights out? I bet you there are near these locations. Um and so just have a

[1:17:41] better coordinated um method of addressing some of these issues because

[1:17:47] as you said there might be graffiti and vandalism happening at that loc shelter

[1:17:52] but I guarantee you there's other activity happening in that area and I

[1:17:57] think if everyone is on notice everyone who's doing work in that vicinity is on

[1:18:03] notice that there's extra eyes and ears on it there can be better communication

[1:18:08] um to address and deter some of this um activity and make

[1:18:12] it safer for the people that are riding transit.

[1:18:17] » Appreciate that. And your leadership will be uh uh very much uh uh needed for

[1:18:23] uh bring the conversation together and we'll uh bring all the contractor and

[1:18:28] making sure that they are uh by the contractual obligation and even beyond.

[1:18:33] So um thank you for your leadership for that.

[1:18:39] Thank you very much, Commissioner Cartness. Uh,

[1:18:41] » yeah, thank you. Just going back [clears throat] to the citations or the

[1:18:46] infractions, um, how many locations have had a first,

[1:18:51] second, or even a third infraction imposed because they didn't they didn't

[1:18:55] complete the work or or didn't satisfactory

[1:18:58] um, hold hold up their end of the of the contract.

[1:19:01] » Uh, we have not issued any citations. Um and uh so from uh

[1:19:09] we again we have not issued any of those uh infractional citation for not meeting

[1:19:14] the quality of and the contractual obligations because uh again the data

[1:19:19] has shown that they have u meet those obligations.

[1:19:24] » So they met their obligations self-reported met their obligations.

[1:19:29] So, I mean, based on the information that we're getting from from the

[1:19:34] community, it looks like locations haven't been meeting those obligations.

[1:19:37] So, I find it um you know, both things can't be true. So, something something's

[1:19:43] going on here. And moving on to to the construction, you were saying there's

[1:19:48] approximately 20 plus locations per month that are [snorts] slated or

[1:19:54] scheduled for installation. Is that was that the right number I was listening

[1:19:58] to? >> Uh yeah, monthto month is

[1:20:01] » roughly 20 plus. >> Um so but some of those aren't getting

[1:20:05] the power installations that are needed and like you're saying because there's

[1:20:09] no power the city's not getting their revenue but we're just continuing on to

[1:20:13] the next month and starting another 20. So what what's the you know if if if the

[1:20:17] first month isn't getting completed and you and you're working on the second

[1:20:20] month what's [snorts] the backlog on the power installations that are

[1:20:24] accumulating uh you know you know say when you get to month number three

[1:20:31] » right uh but I just want to also uh they are doing some not at the rate that

[1:20:37] » no that's exactly they're doing some which means they're not doing others and

[1:20:41] the ones that are not being done are still not done and we're going on the

[1:20:44] next month and building another 20. Not all of the 20 are power uh have power

[1:20:50] requirements, but that number isn't getting smaller. It's getting bigger in

[1:20:53] terms of the backlog of the of the power that's being installed. Is that what I'm

[1:20:58] hearing? >> That's correct. Uh right now we balloon

[1:21:00] to roughly 20 30 locations of uh location that need some sort of actions

[1:21:07] uh either connect to power or pull new service point. So, does it make sense to

[1:21:12] continue doing power locations if the power backlog I mean, would it make

[1:21:16] sense to go ahead and just install the ones that don't require power until the

[1:21:19] backlog is completed? That way, you don't you're not you're the number of

[1:21:23] locations you have to go back to to complete isn't getting bigger. Does is

[1:21:27] that logical or does that make sense or were you thinking about anything like

[1:21:30] that? the uh even if we don't have power uh for location that uh do sidewalk

[1:21:38] construction and uh transit shelter is still providing that benefit of um shade

[1:21:43] and advertisement during the day. >> Understood. But that but what you were

[1:21:47] saying but what we were saying earlier is the the city wasn't benefiting from

[1:21:51] the advertisement right >> for location that is digital for

[1:21:56] location >> for the digital

[1:21:57] » digital because you splat screen in the cases where we have uh um uh the static

[1:22:02] the poster one those during the day can be seen just not at night

[1:22:06] » correct correct okay so just curious on how that's how that's working um what's

[1:22:13] the number of you said there was rough roughly 1400 existing shelters.

[1:22:19] » 1,600. >> 1600. Thank you. So, what's the what's

[1:22:22] the number or percentage of locations that are considered on the hot hotspot

[1:22:27] list? Do you know what that number is? >> So, 30% of the 1,800

[1:22:33] » approximately or 30% are are >> uh currently slightly lower. Uh but

[1:22:39] we're working to bring that back up to 30% uh of the contractual obligation.

[1:22:44] the number could uh you know enter and exit. So this flux throughout uh each on

[1:22:49] a regular basis but we try to get that sailing

[1:22:53] » understood trying to do it but the say we install another 300 locations

[1:22:59] and all 300 of those are hotspot locations. So the percent of the percent

[1:23:04] of hotspots are going to go up. Right? So it's not a it's not a it's not a it's

[1:23:09] not a static number. it is what it is in terms of hot hotspot locations of of

[1:23:14] locations that have to be monitored on a regular basis and and and and need more

[1:23:19] more attention. So, is that um how do we how are we going to figure that out? I

[1:23:25] mean, when we're when when the locations are being uh reviewed prior to

[1:23:30] construction, are we looking at the amount of graffiti in the area or the

[1:23:34] amount of activity, homeless activity that's going on in the area? what what

[1:23:38] what goes into that that discussion pre preconstruction to figure out okay we

[1:23:45] know this is going to be a hot spot and and the contractor is going to know day

[1:23:49] one it's going to be a hot spot is that is that the communication that that's

[1:23:53] that's happening with with our vendor >> the current process that hotspot

[1:23:58] identification happened after >> can't hear you

[1:24:00] » the current process uh the hotspot identification happened after

[1:24:06] » understood but Can you agree that some locations, you know, it's going to be a

[1:24:10] hot spot? >> We can. Again, it's up to us to

[1:24:12] establish criteria and when we input this uh location into the hotspot list.

[1:24:18] » So, so day one, day one, they're going to know, you know what, this this one's

[1:24:22] going to be a problem. We got to stay on top of it.

[1:24:24] » That's correct. we can and uh I I think that's a great suggestion for us to uh

[1:24:30] take 311 and other graffiti uh vandalism information to our design process and

[1:24:36] the construction process so that we could uh um on day one have that as part

[1:24:42] of this. >> So 30% every uh three of them that we

[1:24:47] put in one of them could be hotspot. >> Okay. Well, I I see you this this is a

[1:24:52] great program. I don't want to be all negative but we have to understand that

[1:24:55] once we we increase our numbers and and we get up to the additional 1400 plus or

[1:25:02] 1300 plus when we we complete the 3,000 uh locations.

[1:25:07] » Um we need to really have a good understanding of how we're going to

[1:25:10] maintain these because buildings buildings one thing maintenance never

[1:25:13] ends. So, we need to make sure that we're on top of that and and that we do

[1:25:16] it successfully so that the the city can benefit, you know,

[1:25:21] as much as they can and still keep these uh locations for the public accessible

[1:25:26] and and safe. So, I look forward to seeing what our plan is going forward.

[1:25:30] Thanks. >> Thank you.

[1:25:34] » Thank you very much. Any last minute comments or questions, commissioners?

[1:25:37] » Yes. Is it possible to get a copy of the report?

[1:25:41] C >> can you repeat? Do you have a report

[1:25:44] sent to all the commissioners so we can actually review it and if we have some

[1:25:48] further questions or comments we can direct them directly to you.

[1:25:52] » A report for the uh >> is there an audit report?

[1:25:56] » Yes. >> Okay.

[1:25:58] » Yeah, we can definitely share this is a copyright.

[1:26:00] » Okay. We just want you to make it available to the commissioners through

[1:26:03] the executive officer. >> Yes. Uh we can share this after the

[1:26:06] meeting. >> Thank you.

[1:26:09] » All right. Any other last minute questions or comments? So, we would uh

[1:26:14] given the urgency of the item, I would love to I would like to reschedu um uh

[1:26:20] for you to come back sooner than later. So, uh we'll coordinate with our

[1:26:26] executive officer and our team to schedule another briefing in the next

[1:26:30] couple of weeks uh to follow up. Um with that, thank you very much.

[1:26:35] » Thank you. I believe that concludes our items for

[1:26:40] today. All right. Thank you very much. Our next regular meeting of the board of

[1:26:44] public works will be on Friday, February 6, 2026. The meeting is now adjourned at

[1:26:51] 11:08 a.m.

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