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>> Chair Jefferson: I would
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like to go ahead and call the
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meeting to order.
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Let us begin with a moment of
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silence.
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[Moment of silence]
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Thank you.
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Please rise if you are able.
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>>> I pledge allegiance to the
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flag of the united states of
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america and to the republic for
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which it stands, one nation
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under GOD, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
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>> Chair Jefferson: before we
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begin I want to acknowledge we
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have a new member on the dais.
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He was previously mentioned
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during our finance and budget
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committee meeting, but this is
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the start of the official
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meeting.
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I wanted to take a quick moment
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to welcome george stewart who
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is a new gainesville district
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supervisor.
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So welcome.
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>> George Stewart: thank you
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very much MADAM Chair.
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To my fellow board members and
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staff back here, I have some
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pictures to fill from the
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predecessor who sat in the seat
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before me and I'm looking
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forward to getting to work.
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Thank you
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.
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>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
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we are going to move to agenda
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item number three and that is
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the approval of minutes.
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MAY I have a motion for items
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3a, b and c?
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>> Andrea Bailey: so moved.
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> Vice Chair Boddye: second.
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>> Chair Jefferson: any
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discussion?
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If not, I would like to call
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for the vote.
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>> vote unanimous supervisors
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to abstaining from vote.
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>> Chair Jefferson: we are
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going to move to agenda item
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for and that is accommodations
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and proclamations.
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I would like to note that for
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4c there is a request to
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reschedule that for DECEMBER so
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we will not be taking vote on
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4c today.
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So I would like to get a motion
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for fort a, b, d through f.
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>> I think it might be 4d.
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>> Chair Jefferson: I'm so
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sorry.
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I circled the wrong one.
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I would like to get a motion
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for b, c, d and f. Any
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discussion on these items?
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Let's go ahead and take a vote
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.
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>> vote unanimous.
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>> Chair Jefferson: from what I
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understand for item 4b and that
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is to commemorate the life and
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legacy of gerald e. Connolly,
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supervisor bailey, you want to
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take a picture with everyone?
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>> Andrea Bailey: with your
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permission.
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>> Chair Jefferson: yes.
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What we can do is we will go
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through all of these and take a
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photo and we will hold for b we
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will hold for the very end.
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> Andrea Bailey: if I made
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make a request on that.
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Misses, I'm not sure mrs.
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conley is in the audience yet
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and karen is outside waiting
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for her.
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So if we could take her last.
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>> Chair Jefferson: that's what
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I am saying.
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We will take those last.
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So I'm going to go down and you
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have a couple of here,
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supervisor bailey.
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If you could join me for 4c and
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then you will come down one
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supervisor, lisa families here.
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Do we have representatives from
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mount olive baptist church
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here?
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Thank you for coming.
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>> Chair Jefferson: commend
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mount olive baptist church on
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their 110th anniversary.
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Mount olive was founded in
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woodbridge virginia on OCTOBER
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17, 1915 by members of the
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mission sunday school.
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Since MARCH 3, 2001 mount olive
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baptist church has been led by
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reverend ellis who created
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pioneering and progressive
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ministries to develop the
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membership of the church on is
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truly dedicated and determined
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to lead his flock by example.
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Under the spiritual guidance of
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reverend ellis, not all of
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continues its growth as a
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church, as one family that
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believes in caring, sharing and
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loving.
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Over the course of its
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long history, the mount olive
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baptist church congregation has
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navigated through rough seas,
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dark nights and is faced the
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tempest and many storms, but
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through adult they learn to
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trust in their faith in one
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another.
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Therefore today the prince
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william county board of
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supervisors hereby commends the
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congregation amount all the
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baptist church on its 110th
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anniversary.
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Reverend ellis, do you have any
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words for us?
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Knowing you are a pastor.
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Let's keep it brief.
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>> it's dangerous
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to give a
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pastor a microphone.
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Thank you so much
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.
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Thank you CHAIRMAN Jefferson
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then to the prince william
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county board of supervisors on
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those who are present.
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Thank you so much for this
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honor.
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I always saw myself as a
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football player, obviously not
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in statute.
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Meaning is a pastor you get to
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be face of the congregation,
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but in reality he represents
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some dedicated and faithful
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people who are of course not
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here today.
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So I want to say thank you for
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recognizing and honoring the
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memory, the faith, and the
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courage little known to many
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people
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, the chin family members
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establishment all the baptist
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church.
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Nd of course the name
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mary jane graces are aquatic in
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library.
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It was her children who start
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amount all the baptist church
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and whose shoulders I now stand
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upon.
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With the assistance of the
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neabsco baptist church, all of
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us had a part in this community
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OCTOBER 17, 1915.
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So thank you all so much for
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honoring us.
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And I'm just so privileged to
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accept this on behalf of know
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all of baptist church
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congregation.
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Thank you so much.
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[Applause]
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>> Chair Jefferson: and then we
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will take a quick photo.
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>> Chair Jefferson: we are
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going to hold 4b and then 4c
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said, supervisor bailey, if you
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would come down for that.
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And anyone associated with the
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family caregivers proclamation
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.
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National family caregivers
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month, please come to the
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podium.
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>> Andrea Bailey: thank you
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MADAM Chair.
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It's a pleasure to do this
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today.
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As a caregiver for my mom, it's
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always a blessing first of all
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to be a caregiver but to
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acknowledge those who focus on
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the art and the prayerful
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service of caregiving.
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So with that, family caregivers
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are the backbone of our
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communities providing
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compassion and care and
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unwavering support to loved
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ones who are aging, ill, or
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living with disabilities.
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They provide billions of hours
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of unpaid care every year.
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Often balancing work, family
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life and health challenges
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along the way
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.
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NOVEMBER is recognized
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nationally as a family
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caregivers month
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, time to
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celebrate the selfless
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dedication
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, strength, and
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commitment and love of millions
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of americans who care for
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family members and friends
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.
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my recognizing national family
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caregivers month, we shine a
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light on their experiences and
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provided direct pathway to the
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resources, community, and
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support they deserve.
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Therefore today, the prince
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william county board of
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supervisors hereby proclaims
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NOVEMBER 2025 as national
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family caregivers month in
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prince william county.
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Congratulations
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.
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>> good afternoon manager
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jefferson the members of the
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board.
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Director of social services.
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Today I have with me my deputy
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director
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, [Name] The assistant
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director or advocacy prevention
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and protection better known as
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app.
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Josh is here from aging.
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And laura
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.
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Don.
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Thank you.
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Adult daycare.
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Great.
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Thank you.
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We are here today to jointly
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accept this proclamation.
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Caregivers, under their family
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members, friends and
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professional staff, give
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extraordinary support older
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adult, individuals with
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disabilities and those who
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cannot care for themselves.
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I understand the importance of
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the roll and responsibility of
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being a caretaker.
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As I was my mother's caretaker
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for several years at the age of
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23 after she had a massive
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stroke.
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Sometimes as caregivers you MAY
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feel forgotten as a lotta
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emphasis MAY be placed on
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individuals who are new to
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care.
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The love and commitment and
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support that is provided is
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very important much
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appreciated.
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I would like to thank ras team,
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in-home providers, community
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partners and friends of family
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who show up every day to
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provide support and care.
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Thank you again for this
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proclamation in your continued
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support to allow us to serve
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constituents of the county.
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[Applause]
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>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
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Let's go take a photo.
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>> Chair Jefferson: next we
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have 4e to proclaim NOVEMBER
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2029 small business saturday.
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Will everyone associated with
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small business saturday please
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come forward?
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Do we have economic development
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here?
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All right.
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I will go ahead and read it.
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Small business saturday
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celebrated annual between black
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friday and cyber monday is a
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day dedicated to supporting the
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small businesses that help
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create jobs, boost the economy,
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and keep communities thriving
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across the country.
[13:31]
Since 2010 small business
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saturday has illustrated the
[13:32]
significance of supporting
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small independently owned
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businesses across the country.
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Prince william county through
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the county department of
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economic development is
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committed to supporting small
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businesses to grading jobs and
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to preserving our communities
[13:42]
unique culture prince william
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county small business program
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established in DECEMBER 2019
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has assistant small businesses
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to great when and 63 milena p
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prince william county is
[13:53]
joining local governments
[13:54]
throughout the country to
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acknowledge and celebrate small
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business saturday.
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Therefore today the prince
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william county board of
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supervisors hereby proclaim
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saturday, NOVEMBER 29, 2025 a
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small business saturday and
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encourages our community
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support small businesses on
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small business saturday and
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throughout the year.
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Going to go international
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adoption date and then we will
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get back to 4b.
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With everyone associated with
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national adoption date please
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come forward?
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All right.
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Prince william county
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recognizes the importance of
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giving children permanent,
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safe, and loving families to
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adoption.
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More than 100,000 children and
[14:58]
the nazis foster care system
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are waiting to be adopted.
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More than 800 children in the
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virginia foster care system are
[15:05]
waiting to be adopted in more
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than 15 children in the prince
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william county foster care
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system have or have the goal of
[15:11]
adoption.
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To help these children find
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permanent nurturing families
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,
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the local courts of the 31st
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judicial district will open
[15:19]
their doors to celebrate
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national adoption day saturday,
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NOVEMBER 22, 2025, to finalize
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a mechanized the adoptions of
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local children and join other
[15:28]
organizations to celebrate all
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adoptions
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.
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Therefore today the prince
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william county board of
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supervisors hereby joins the
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department of social services
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proclaiming NOVEMBER 22, 2025,
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as national adoption day.
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Prince william county will
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celebrate NOVEMBER 22, 2025.
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Prince william county will
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continue to urge all citizens
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to join in a national effort to
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raise awareness about the
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importance of adoption.
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Do you have any words he would
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like to say?
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>> good afternoon again MADAM
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Chair and members of the board.
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Director of social services.
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Today I have with me my team,
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deputy director holly handy,
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jessica Mccauley who is
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assistant director of family
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support
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services, diane human
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services manager, fan support
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services unit and cheryl
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Mcmullen who is a services
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caseworker.
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Both for the adoption program.
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Prince william county
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department of social services
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is proud of the work we do to
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promote safety for children for
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whom we serve and protect.
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It is our thought children who
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live in permanent homes, caring
[16:47]
adoptive parents have an
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opportunity to thrive and grow
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into healthy adults.
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Adoption is an alternative that
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provides family life for
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children who can biological
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parents.
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T provides an
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opportunity for those children
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to find forever homes
[17:02]
.
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We all desire to be connected
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to someone, and family is the
[17:06]
foundation that keeps us with
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it.
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This saturday is mentioned
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NOVEMBER 22 we will celebrate
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our 22nd national adoption date
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and recognize nine families
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that will become a forever home
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for a child
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.
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I'm hoping you will be able to
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celebrate with us.
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I am proud to accept the
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proclamation on behalf of the
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department
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, and as always, we
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thank you for your continued
[17:35]
support and the recognition for
[17:36]
the work that we do.
[17:36]
Thank you.
[17:41]
[Applause]
[17:42]
>> Chair Jefferson: let's go
[18:24]
ahead and take another photo.
[18:25]
All right.
[18:29]
And supervisor bailey
[18:29]
, if you
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and MRS. Connolly can come up
[18:33]
and anyone else you have and
[18:36]
then we will take a picture for
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this out in the atrium.
[18:50]
>> Andrea Bailey: thank you
[18:58]
MADAM Chair.
[18:59]
It is the excitement and great
[19:00]
joy I present this to our
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citizens today.
[19:02]
On behalf of our friend jerry
[19:02]
connolly.
[19:07]
Congressman gerald e. Connolly
[19:07]
,
[19:11]
jerry as we know him, dedicated
[19:12]
his life to public service
[19:13]
representing the people of
[19:22]
northern virginia with vision,
[19:22]
integrity, love, and an
[19:23]
unwavering commitment to the
[19:23]
common good.
[19:24]
Is a member of the united
[19:25]
states house of representatives
[19:26]
for virginia's 11th
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congressional district,
[19:29]
congressman connolly worked
[19:30]
tirelessly to ensure prince
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william county in the entire
[19:35]
northern virginia region
[19:36]
received a strong federal
[19:39]
advocacy on critical issues
[19:40]
such as transportation
[19:41]
infrastructure
[19:42]
, economic
[19:44]
development
[19:46]
, veteran services,
[19:52]
and public education.
[19:53]
He was instrumental in
[19:54]
advancing regional
[19:55]
transportation initiatives such
[19:56]
as improvements to the I-95
[19:59]
corridor
[19:59]
, expansion of the
[20:03]
virginia railway express
[20:03]
, and
[20:04]
the extension of mass transit
[20:06]
options
[20:06]
.
[20:12]
Enhancing mobility and economic
[20:13]
opportunity for residents of
[20:13]
prince william county.
[20:14]
Congressman connolly was a
[20:15]
tireless advocate for public
[20:20]
service, federal employees, and
[20:22]
military families recognizing
[20:23]
their contributions to the
[20:24]
nation and ensuring prince
[20:26]
william county
[20:27]
, home to the
[20:30]
thousands of these individuals,
[20:33]
was well represented and well
[20:39]
served.
[20:39]
And therefore today the prince
[20:40]
william county board of county
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supervisors hereby commends,
[20:46]
honors, and remembers
[20:48]
congressman gerald e. Connolly
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for his exemplary public
[20:54]
service, his steadfast advocacy
[20:54]
for the people of northern
[20:58]
virginia, and his enduring
[20:59]
contributions to the progress
[21:02]
and prosperity of prince
[21:03]
william county.
[21:08]
Is wife, ladies and gentlemen.
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[Applause]
[21:12]
>> thank you very much
[21:14]
supervisor bailey.
[21:15]
Thank you MADAM CHAIRMAN and
[21:22]
all the members of the board
[21:22]
and supervisors.
[21:23]
And bring greetings from my
[21:24]
daughter who you don't want to
[21:25]
have in person because she is
[21:25]
sick.
[21:27]
We both thank you for this
[21:34]
recognition, this honor
[21:34]
.
[21:35]
You should know one of the
[21:36]
saddest days of jerry's life
[21:37]
was when he was redistricted
[21:40]
out of prince william county.
[21:41]
He loved this community and he
[21:42]
loved spending time here with
[21:44]
you all.
[21:44]
Friday marks six months since
[21:50]
he passed.
[21:51]
Jerry was fundamentally as a
[21:52]
human being and as a public
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servant others centered.
[21:57]
When he asked you how are you,
[22:04]
how are you doing, he actually
[22:05]
wanted to hear the answered.
[22:06]
It mattered to him.
[22:06]
It matter that if you had a
[22:07]
problem
[22:09]
, if you had an issue,
[22:11]
mother regardless of your party
[22:11]
or your circumstances, you are
[22:14]
a constituent of his or even
[22:15]
somebody he worked with or were
[22:22]
new that he was able to help.
[22:22]
He would step in to try to make
[22:29]
a difference.
[22:30]
Jerry understood what my needs
[22:31]
are, what my once are do not
[22:35]
help further our country or
[22:36]
democracy.
[22:39]
He understood public service is
[22:40]
about the other.
[22:46]
They
[22:47]
understood that effectiveness
[22:47]
mattered.
[22:48]
That getting elected was just
[22:49]
getting the job.
[22:50]
then you had to do it once he
[22:52]
were elected.
[22:58]
I cannot thank you enough for
[22:58]
this honor.
[22:59]
You all hold a special place in
[23:00]
our hearts as well.
[23:00]
Nd I want
[23:05]
to also thank you for the work
[23:06]
you do as others centered
[23:06]
public servants.
[23:13]
You make a difference.
[23:13]
Please keep up the good work
[23:14]
and in jerry's name, in your
[23:15]
own names, it doesn't matter.
[23:22]
In the publix name it matters.
[23:22]
Thank you so much.
[23:23]
[Applause]
[23:23]
>> Chair Jefferson: I would
[23:24]
like to invite all the board
[23:25]
members to come down for this
[23:58]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[23:59]
everyone.
[23:59]
We are moving to agenda item
[24:00]
number five and that is the
[24:01]
consent agenda.
[24:10]
I wanted to
[24:11]
see if there was anyone on the
[24:12]
board who would like to pull
[24:13]
anything off from the consent
[24:13]
agenda?
[24:17]
Supervisor vega
[24:18]
.
[24:18]
>> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM
[24:19]
Chair.
[24:21]
Item 5n
[24:21]
.
[24:23]
>> Chair Jefferson: 5n as in
[24:25]
nancy.
[24:27]
Anyone else?
[24:31]
All right.
[24:32]
Seeing none I would like to get
[24:33]
a motion.
[24:40]
Hold on.
[24:41]
You don't know what I could be
[24:42]
asking for a motion for.
[24:43]
I would like a motion from 5a
[24:53]
through 5m and 50 through 5e.
[24:53]
It has been moved and properly
[24:54]
second in.
[24:56]
Any discussion on these items.
[24:59]
>> Tom Gordy: 5w as the last
[25:03]
.
[25:05]
>> Chair Jefferson: 5n
[25:05]
.
[25:07]
5w.
[25:09]
Did you want to pull that?
[25:19]
>> it has been withdrawn.
[25:24]
That one has been withdrawn.
[25:25]
Supervisor angry.
[25:28]
>> Victor Angry: real quick
[25:29]
on 50
[25:33]
, q, r we have been
[25:34]
talking about the courts
[25:39]
district and we are in the
[25:45]
phases where the pain starts.
[25:45]
We are going to start seeing a
[25:46]
lot of movement of dirt,
[25:47]
trucks, construction signs.
[25:48]
Again, if you don't need to be
[25:50]
in the area of prince william
[25:54]
pkwy.
[25:55]
, find alternates.
[25:56]
I hate to put it that way but
[25:57]
this is going to get on until
[26:04]
we get the construction done.
[26:05]
Of course you know it is high
[26:06]
which is a single-point urban
[26:06]
interchange.
[26:06]
Copyright.
[26:07]
Okay.
[26:07]
That road is a major
[26:10]
construction road because we
[26:12]
heard and I heard that when we
[26:17]
do developments we don't
[26:17]
improve.
[26:18]
You are going to see parkway
[26:21]
going under many ville.
[26:22]
We have already had one town
[26:22]
hall meeting on this and we
[26:23]
will be having another real
[26:25]
soon because the next phase we
[26:27]
are in.
[26:33]
If you are not on my email list
[26:34]
I would ask for folks listening
[26:35]
in, shoot me an email, go to
[26:38]
the website neabsco news.Org.
[26:38]
Get on the list so you can come
[26:41]
out in here all the changes
[26:43]
that have taken place and
[26:43]
really be a part of the
[26:48]
discussion, any questions you
[26:49]
have that we could answer.
[26:50]
This is going to take a couple
[26:52]
of years, but at the end of all
[26:53]
of this he will be -- what we
[26:55]
have.
[27:07]
Thank you MADAM Chair.
[27:08]
>> Chair Jefferson: does anyone
[27:09]
else want to comment on
[27:10]
anything?
[27:10]
Supervisor bailey.
[27:11]
>> Andrea Bailey: thank you
[27:12]
MADAM Chair.
[27:12]
I just want to thank our fire
[27:13]
department facilities
[27:15]
department for the movement on
[27:15]
fire stations happen.
[27:16]
Every incremental movement is
[27:16]
great.
[27:21]
Might appreciate you keeping an
[27:22]
eye on the prize making sure
[27:27]
the fire station is there.
[27:27]
In terms of public safety and
[27:28]
taking care of our citizens.
[27:30]
Thank you MADAM Chair.
[27:31]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[27:31]
very much.
[27:32]
I would like to go ahead and
[27:36]
call the vote.
[27:36]
>> cote unanimous.
[27:41]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[27:42]
We are now going to go to 5n.
[27:48]
Supervisor vega
[27:52]
.
[27:52]
>> Yesli Vega: I understand we
[27:53]
are voting to authorize the
[27:54]
public hearing.
[27:55]
Still remain
[27:56]
fundamentally opposed to this
[27:57]
initiative even starting so I
[27:58]
wanted to see that for the
[27:58]
record.
[27:59]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[27:59]
Thank you.
[28:00]
Are there any additional
[28:00]
speakers?
[28:01]
If not I would like to get a
[28:03]
motion on 5n.
[28:04]
It has been properly moved and
[28:06]
seconded.
[28:07]
any discussion?
[28:09]
All right.
[28:11]
Let's go ahead and take a vote
[28:16]
on that item.
[28:16]
>> motion passes 7/1 supervisor
[28:23]
vega voting no.
[28:24]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[28:25]
Think is a very much.
[28:27]
We are moving to agenda item 6
[28:27]
and that is public comment
[28:27]
time.
[28:31]
I already have a sign-up sheet.
[28:32]
Going to call people up in
[28:32]
groups of five.
[28:36]
When I ask people that everyone
[28:37]
in the board room please take a
[28:37]
seat.
[28:45]
So going to have -- and I
[28:46]
apologize if I cannot make out
[28:49]
the handwriting.
[28:50]
Leave fay jones, brian landrum,
[29:00]
ron sachs, chris bley zia and
[29:01]
so everyone a few general
[29:07]
pointers make sure you speak
[29:08]
quickly and to the microphone.
[29:09]
On the screen it will have a
[29:09]
much time you have.
[29:10]
Please begin by stating your
[29:13]
name on the magisterial
[29:17]
district where you reside.
[29:18]
>> good afternoon.
[29:19]
My name is leif e jones and I
[29:23]
reside down the street.
[29:24]
I am new to this
[29:29]
.
[29:29]
The only comment that I wanted
[29:34]
to make is in reference to I
[29:39]
guess 7f with the kings grove
[29:40]
that is potentially going to be
[29:40]
here on
[29:43]
the corner.
[29:44]
My only concern with that is
[29:49]
the entry way to that facility
[29:54]
.
[29:55]
I would recommend the only
[29:58]
entryway to that facility is
[30:01]
going to be on black forest
[30:02]
lane, not prince will then
[30:03]
parkway because prince will
[30:13]
deem are quite is already a
[30:13]
backlog trying to
[30:14]
be in that
[30:14]
right-hand lane.
[30:15]
That is really my only comment
[30:16]
.
[30:17]
I don't know how the process
[30:19]
works but I did want to give my
[30:22]
opinion on that.
[30:28]
>> Chair Jefferson: generally I
[30:28]
will just give you -- the
[30:29]
public comment time you can
[30:30]
speak.
[30:32]
What you are referring to is
[30:32]
7f.
[30:34]
We have a separate process for
[30:42]
that
[30:43]
.
[30:44]
If you want you can speak again
[30:44]
and
[30:44]
that time or if you are
[30:45]
finished with the comments and
[30:46]
are satisfied you don't have to
[30:47]
speak again.
[30:51]
>> that is my, unless you speak
[30:52]
to something.
[30:52]
>> Chair Jefferson: I like
[30:53]
that.
[30:56]
Next speaker.
[31:00]
>> brian landrum, gainesville
[31:02]
district
[31:02]
.
[31:03]
MADAM Chair and supervisors,
[31:07]
thank you for the opportunity
[31:08]
to speak today on behalf of the
[31:09]
architecture review board about
[31:10]
agenda item 10 c the request
[31:30]
for $85,000 out of cycle
[31:31]
funding to develop the overlay
[31:32]
district design guidelines.
[31:33]
Thank you to the board for your
[31:34]
commitment to historic
[31:35]
preservation including the
[31:36]
recent purchase of ongoing
[31:37]
rehabilitation of the williams
[31:38]
goss house and the net
[31:39]
distiller home and thank you
[31:39]
supervisor for your
[31:40]
leadership
[31:41]
securing that funding and
[31:41]
moving the project forward.
[31:43]
it's a once in a generation
[31:44]
opportunity to preserve an
[31:45]
incredible piece of our shared
[31:45]
history.
[31:46]
Our county should be proud of
[31:47]
frank washington on the
[31:48]
thoroughfare community for
[31:51]
working diligently to ensure
[31:52]
future generations have the
[32:02]
opportunity to experience the
[32:03]
rich history represented there.
[32:04]
These design guidelines are
[32:05]
critical piece of the overlay
[32:06]
district project and out of
[32:07]
cycle funding is key to
[32:09]
ensuring it stays on schedule
[32:10]
pickup respect we request you
[32:11]
approve item 10 c on the out of
[32:11]
cycle
[32:11]
funding request for
[32:12]
the
[32:12]
thoroughfare design guidelines.
[32:13]
Thank you very much.
[32:14]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[32:16]
Next speaker, please.
[32:17]
>> Public Speaker: I'm chris,
[32:19]
brentsville district.
[32:20]
Thanks for letting me speak and
[32:21]
I do want to apologize to the
[32:22]
board.
[32:35]
I am a debbie downer.
[32:36]
I haven't been at
[32:36]
these meetings
[32:37]
because I do travel a lot.
[32:38]
But I just recently got laid
[32:38]
off.
[32:39]
As well as many other people in
[32:39]
virginia.
[32:40]
I just want to mention to the
[32:41]
board, priorities.
[32:41]
E are all
[32:45]
prince with them county
[32:45]
residents.
[32:46]
And I say that because I get
[32:47]
all these mailings and flyers
[32:51]
about data centers, personal
[32:54]
property taxes
[32:55]
.
[32:56]
I'm hoping the board has
[32:57]
priorities over this because
[32:59]
now I am hearing data centers
[33:02]
are taking public locations
[33:08]
like retail or nurseries and
[33:08]
providing lots of money to
[33:15]
build data centers.
[33:16]
I didn't know that was prince
[33:17]
williams goals or directives.
[33:18]
I'm sorry I didn't make any
[33:18]
meetings because I am
[33:19]
supporting my family every day.
[33:21]
There's a lot of state
[33:22]
.
[33:26]
I flight a lot.
[33:27]
And I know there are probably a
[33:28]
lot of other objectives the
[33:29]
board can work with other
[33:33]
politicians.
[33:34]
I am sure we can get rid of
[33:37]
property tax in general we know
[33:43]
it goes in the general fund.
[33:44]
And I just want the board to
[33:49]
put priorities that the prince
[33:50]
william property tax.
[33:51]
These are all the things you
[33:52]
mentioned running for office so
[33:54]
I would really like that to be
[33:54]
a priority.
[33:55]
Thank you for your time.
[34:00]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[34:01]
Next speaker, please.
[34:02]
>> Public Speaker: I'm ron.
[34:08]
I live in the -- district and I
[34:09]
guess I am talking to all of
[34:09]
the
[34:10]
board members.
[34:10]
Ecently we
[34:13]
lost a bus stop.
[34:14]
>> Chair Jefferson: can you
[34:17]
move the microphone closer?
[34:23]
We can barely hear you.
[34:24]
>> Public Speaker: anyway, we
[34:26]
lost a bus stop.
[34:31]
Two weeks
[34:36]
, woodbridge high
[34:37]
school, fred lynn student and
[34:38]
occoquan elementary
[34:42]
students.
[34:42]
They did not have any
[34:43]
information that they had
[34:47]
eliminated this bus stop.
[34:49]
i tried to get in contact with
[34:50]
them
[34:52]
.
[34:54]
Their computers were down
[34:57]
.
[34:58]
And radical with the telephone.
[35:00]
No response
[35:04]
.
[35:05]
I don't understand think they
[35:06]
been there for 60 years.
[35:07]
I
[35:15]
collect cans and I go ahead and
[35:16]
give the money to the kids when
[35:17]
they get off the bus at the end
[35:18]
of the school year so they want
[35:20]
opportunity to go swimming at
[35:22]
hammer mill pool.
[35:23]
This year was six dollars
[35:24]
.
[35:28]
But anyway, one of the problems
[35:31]
is the eliminated.
[35:32]
They are not going to put it
[35:36]
back.
[35:37]
I know we got information a
[35:40]
couple years ago that they are
[35:40]
changing the times of the bus
[35:41]
stop
[35:42]
.
[35:49]
It was on the paperwork of MR.
[35:50]
Lint.
[35:50]
He is the principle of occoquan
[35:55]
school.
[35:55]
He is not the one that
[35:56]
initiates this.
[35:57]
Do you want everyone to call
[35:57]
MR. Lint the principal about
[35:58]
the bus stop times?
[36:01]
It's crazy.
[36:03]
Whoever the entity was was made
[36:03]
anonymous.
[36:07]
We want the bus
[36:09]
stop back.
[36:11]
What is a child's life worth.
[36:17]
And then have people going up
[36:17]
to kilby.
[36:18]
They are
[36:18]
walking up these hills
[36:19]
I see, snowy.
[36:22]
I don't understand
[36:22]
.
[36:26]
have you ever pushed a carriage
[36:30]
up a hill with two kids?
[36:36]
I mean, it's difficult.
[36:37]
I don't know how you feel about
[36:38]
it, but can you even read and
[36:40]
write?
[36:41]
The declaration of independence
[36:43]
was written
[36:43]
.
[36:45]
Does no more writing in the
[36:46]
public schools.
[36:49]
What's going
[36:49]
on?
[36:54]
I'm blessed I went to a private
[36:54]
school.
[36:55]
Catholic school.
[36:55]
My time is running out.
[36:58]
Thank you for the time and good
[37:01]
luck on the valley drive.
[37:02]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank
[37:02]
you so
[37:07]
very much.
[37:08]
We are going to be moving on to
[37:09]
promote public
[37:09]
comment time and
[37:10]
I ask people, if you would
[37:21]
like to please have a seat.
[37:22]
Supervisor bailey, do we have
[37:22]
anyone signed up.
[37:23]
>> Andrea Bailey: we do,
[37:23]
MADAM Chair.
[37:25]
Re we ready?
[37:30]
[Inaudible]
[37:31]
I don't have anybody online as
[37:34]
of right now
[37:36]
.
[37:37]
>> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[37:38]
MADAM Chair, back to you.
[37:40]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[37:40]
so very much.
[37:41]
We are going to move to agenda
[37:42]
item number seven and that is
[37:45]
public hearings.
[37:46]
Before I opened the public
[37:46]
hearings I want to see if
[37:47]
anyone on the dais had any
[37:49]
questions or wanted any
[37:54]
clarification.
[37:55]
Supervisor boddye.
[37:56]
>> Kenny Boddye: before we get
[37:59]
to the public hearings
[38:01]
,
[38:02]
supervisor angry and I have
[38:02]
something we have to read.
[38:03]
Before the board holds a public
[38:10]
hearing and consider some votes
[38:11]
on item 7a which budget and
[38:12]
appropriate school board
[38:12]
carryover funds, I need to
[38:13]
declare a personal interest in
[38:14]
this matter.
[38:14]
School employee my wife is a
[38:15]
school employee.
[38:19]
The my wife and I are members
[38:20]
of a group affected by this
[38:21]
matter.
[38:22]
We are participating because I
[38:22]
know we can do so fairly,
[38:23]
objectively and in the public
[38:24]
interest.
[38:25]
>> Kenny Boddye: before the
[38:26]
board holds a public hearing
[38:37]
and vote on item 7a which
[38:38]
budget and appropriate school
[38:39]
board carryover funds I need to
[38:40]
declare personal interest in
[38:40]
the matter.
[38:41]
My wife is a school employee.
[38:42]
Is a schools employee my wife
[38:49]
and I are members of a group
[38:50]
affected by this matter.
[38:51]
I will be participating in this
[38:52]
matter because I am able to do
[38:53]
so fairly, objectively, and in
[38:53]
the public interest.
[38:54]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[38:55]
so very much.
[38:55]
Supervisor franklin?
[38:56]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[38:57]
well, I wanted to separate out
[38:57]
items.
[38:58]
I'm not sure if we are there
[38:58]
yet.
[38:59]
Want to separate out 7c.
[39:06]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[39:06]
All right.
[39:08]
Actually, what I'm going to do
[39:10]
is I'm going to open the public
[39:12]
hearing for everything and then
[39:17]
we will take 7c separately.
[39:17]
all right.
[39:18]
I'm going to open the public
[39:22]
hearing for seven a through f
[39:22]
.
[39:23]
Right now I have two people
[39:27]
signed up to speak.
[39:28]
The rules are you have similar
[39:29]
to public comment time you have
[39:29]
three
[39:30]
minutes.
[39:38]
The timer is going to be on the
[39:38]
screen.
[39:39]
If you're speaking as a
[39:40]
representative for a recognized
[39:41]
group, 501(C)(3), you have up
[39:43]
to five minutes
[39:43]
.
[39:44]
I have two people currently
[39:44]
signed up.
[39:45]
Again, state your name and
[39:46]
where you resign.
[39:56]
I have miriam and paula.
[39:57]
If you both make your way up to
[40:01]
the back.
[40:07]
Right over there.
[40:09]
>> my name is miriam.
[40:12]
I am here to speak on the kings
[40:15]
grove development.
[40:16]
>> Chair Jefferson: if you
[40:22]
could step into the microphone.
[40:23]
>> Public Speaker: I am a
[40:24]
homeowner in the reeds prospect
[40:27]
hoa which is across the street
[40:28]
from where this development is
[40:28]
being planned.
[40:29]
I have been a homeowner there
[40:35]
for 12 years
[40:35]
.
[40:35]
We have concerns about a
[40:36]
growing trend we have seen in
[40:38]
residential development in
[40:39]
which the integration of rental
[40:40]
apartment units into hoa under
[40:45]
the broad a misleading label of
[40:48]
multifamily housing units
[40:48]
.
[40:49]
We believe some developers MAY
[40:54]
be using the terminology to
[40:55]
obscure their true intent,
[40:55]
introducing rental units to
[40:56]
traditionally owner-occupied
[41:02]
communities.
[41:03]
This practice not only misleads
[41:04]
potential homeowners but can
[41:05]
also compromise their voting
[41:05]
rights and influence within the
[41:07]
hoa.
[41:07]
So this is what has happened
[41:08]
with reeds prospect which is
[41:11]
right across the street.
[41:12]
It was originally developed to
[41:12]
include 200 condo unit
[41:13]
.
[41:17]
That is what was approved by
[41:20]
the board of supervisors in 314
[41:21]
single family homes and
[41:24]
townhouses
[41:24]
.
[41:25]
Those units were later
[41:25]
transitioned into apartment
[41:29]
units
[41:30]
, but the documents that
[41:31]
were drafted by the same law
[41:32]
firm representing this
[41:32]
development here
[41:32]
, which is the
[41:37]
law firm of walsh belushi,
[41:38]
billy and walsh, drafted our
[41:39]
documents in such a misleading
[41:42]
manner so that now the 200
[41:46]
apartment units have 200 votes
[41:47]
in our hoa which are cast by
[41:50]
one person.
[41:50]
So the entire time I lived
[41:57]
there are hoa has been
[41:58]
effectively, practically, and
[41:59]
absolutely controlled by the
[42:00]
interests of one person.
[42:01]
Our hoa has put together
[42:06]
several collective actions
[42:07]
because we do have more votes
[42:08]
in the 200 but you can imagine
[42:12]
in our community we are a group
[42:13]
of homeowners, many thorough
[42:15]
workers for folks who don't
[42:22]
have english as their first
[42:23]
language so that kind of
[42:24]
collective action problem.
[42:25]
This represents a petition we
[42:26]
have worked to get signed as
[42:27]
well as proxy votes to try to
[42:29]
reclaim our voting rights this
[42:33]
has been met
[42:34]
, led by an hoa
[42:34]
attorney which they have hired
[42:38]
using their own funds to spend
[42:42]
$70,000 rejecting our efforts
[42:42]
this year.
[42:43]
So my concern regarding this
[42:43]
community.
[42:48]
We met last year with kenny
[42:48]
boddye office.
[42:49]
They said there's nothing we
[42:50]
can do to help with this
[42:51]
because this is a ready been
[42:52]
developed and plan.
[42:56]
My concern is having forward
[42:57]
when I look at the description
[43:02]
of these multifamily units
[43:02]
, two
[43:03]
over to mixed with attached
[43:04]
townhouses, my concern is you
[43:08]
guys protect homeowners who
[43:08]
make sure they can have the
[43:12]
same thing happened to them but
[43:13]
this is not a business deal for
[43:15]
us as it is the apartments,
[43:16]
this is our personal
[43:17]
investment.
[43:18]
>> Chair Jefferson: next
[43:28]
speaker, please.
[43:29]
>> Public Speaker: I and paula
[43:34]
kaiser with occoquan district.
[43:35]
I just want to discuss the
[43:39]
kings grove.
[43:40]
Last time kings grove was
[43:47]
brought to the planning meeting
[43:48]
there were several people who
[43:48]
spoke on the problem, the
[43:51]
issues with the schools
[43:52]
, the
[43:52]
traffic, congestion on the
[43:55]
parkway.
[43:56]
What I am here for is about the
[43:58]
dog park being adjacent to the
[44:05]
well house that is next door
[44:05]
.
[44:06]
I haven't heard on any of these
[44:07]
issues.
[44:10]
I don't know what is planned to
[44:18]
address any of those issues.
[44:19]
That is just what I wanted to
[44:19]
say.
[44:20]
Thank you.
[44:21]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[44:22]
so very much.
[44:22]
Do we have anyone signed up to
[44:26]
speak remotely?
[44:27]
>> Andrea Bailey: I have one
[44:27]
person.
[44:31]
Do we have anyone on remote?
[44:31]
>> we do not have anyone on
[44:31]
remote.
[44:32]
>> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[44:35]
Thank you.
[44:36]
>> Chair Jefferson: I would
[44:37]
like to close the public
[44:42]
hearings for seven a through f.
[44:43]
I would also like to request I
[44:44]
believe the first speaker said
[44:44]
she had a petition.
[44:45]
If you would like to share it
[44:46]
with the clerk?
[44:48]
Okay.
[44:49]
Thank you.
[44:53]
All right.
[45:04]
For agenda item seven I have a
[45:05]
request to pull off 7c and e.
[45:06]
And so we are going to take
[45:07]
those up individually and
[45:11]
separately.
[45:12]
Does anyone on the board have
[45:12]
questions because if not I
[45:13]
would like to get a motion for
[45:14]
7a, b, e and f
[45:15]
.
[45:15]
>> Andrea Bailey: a move.
[45:16]
>> Kenny Boddye: second.
[45:17]
>> Chair Jefferson: properly
[45:18]
moved and seconded.
[45:22]
Going to discussion.
[45:23]
>> Kenny Boddye: I didn't know
[45:24]
where to jump in on that but I
[45:27]
wanted to give -- to the
[45:28]
response.
[45:29]
>> Chair Jefferson: sorry.
[45:31]
This is the consolidated land
[45:34]
use
[45:34]
.
[45:35]
These are things that I've gone
[45:39]
through expedited.
[45:40]
So I would like to go ahead and
[45:41]
have our discussion.
[45:51]
Does any -- supervisor vega and
[45:52]
then boddye.
[45:52]
>> Yesli Vega: I have a few
[45:56]
questions on item 7a.
[45:57]
>> Chair Jefferson: hold on.
[45:58]
Had asked earlier if anyone
[46:01]
from the dais at any questions
[46:01]
.
[46:05]
Not a big deal.
[46:06]
Would you like to withdraw your
[46:11]
chance to speak?
[46:12]
Supervisor boddye.
[46:12]
>> Kenny Boddye:
[46:13]
I just wanted
[46:14]
to speak very quickly on 7f.
[46:18]
Good to see you again.
[46:19]
I know how you had more time I
[46:21]
understand and I hear you.
[46:22]
I know our offices and working
[46:27]
with our state delegates on the
[46:28]
state to try to work their
[46:30]
common interests and I know it
[46:30]
is frustrating because there's
[46:31]
only so much we can do so I
[46:36]
wanted to say first I hear you.
[46:37]
But I know something you've
[46:38]
been here before on is the
[46:39]
signal light to speak to one of
[46:40]
my other constituents, the
[46:44]
traffic backing up all the way
[46:45]
to the intersection there is
[46:46]
real
[46:46]
.
[46:51]
We would be hopefully fixing
[46:52]
that with the old bridge rd.
[46:52]
In
[46:53]
prince william parkway
[46:53]
realignment.
[46:54]
But with this will be putting
[46:57]
in the signal that is supposed
[46:58]
to have been there for
[46:59]
quite a
[46:59]
while.
[47:01]
It will warrant it based on the
[47:01]
traffic generation from kings
[47:06]
grove
[47:06]
.
[47:07]
I know a lot of people who want
[47:08]
to come out of reeds prospect
[47:11]
and turn left currently are
[47:12]
taking their lives into their
[47:16]
own hands by doing so.
[47:16]
Flashing yellow light, I don't
[47:17]
know why they did that but we
[47:17]
are aware we are with this
[47:20]
kings grove project it would be
[47:23]
a fully signalized intersection
[47:24]
that would allow people to
[47:27]
safely move through that more
[47:36]
freely and more safely.
[47:37]
This project does deliver 239
[47:37]
homes in a time people are
[47:38]
struggling to find homes that
[47:38]
are affordable.
[47:42]
It does obtain 24 new dwelling
[47:43]
units per gefilte counties
[47:43]
goals
[47:53]
a mixed-use development.
[47:54]
On that side of prince william
[47:55]
pkwy. It is all commercial pick
[47:56]
on the prospect site it's a
[47:56]
mixed-use.
[47:57]
On this site it is all
[47:58]
commercial.
[48:00]
When we talk about mixed use we
[48:00]
are actually bringing the
[48:01]
housing to that side to the
[48:02]
parkway to deliver a real
[48:02]
mixed-use area in that part.
[48:10]
This makes a small but
[48:11]
important step toward making
[48:12]
the county more affordable and
[48:13]
livable for close to this
[48:14]
employment center here, close
[48:14]
to retail, shopping.
[48:15]
There are bookends on the
[48:25]
parkway side and the hoadley
[48:25]
side.
[48:26]
This is the kind of place we
[48:27]
want to see more housing.
[48:27]
I wanted to say thank you to
[48:28]
the applicant in
[48:29]
planning staff
[48:30]
working through this one and I
[48:31]
will of course be supporting
[48:31]
it.
[48:32]
thank you MADAM Chair.
[48:33]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[48:35]
bailey?
[48:35]
>> Andrea Bailey: if you could
[48:36]
remind me who hold item 7e.
[48:37]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[48:38]
vega.
[48:38]
>> Andrea Bailey: okay.
[48:46]
Thank you very much.
[48:47]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[48:48]
I don't see any other
[48:48]
questions.
[48:49]
We are going to take a vote for
[48:55]
7a, b, d and f.
[49:00]
>> vote unanimously when we are
[49:03]
going to move to agenda item
[49:03]
7c.
[49:04]
Did you have any questions
[49:11]
supervisor vega?
[49:11]
That was c?
[49:12]
Supervisor franklin.
[49:12]
Okay.
[49:12]
All right.
[49:15]
So would like to entertain a
[49:22]
motion for 7c did you have a
[49:24]
question?
[49:25]
>> George Stewart: I was going
[49:29]
to make a motion.
[49:30]
>> Chair Jefferson: it has been
[49:32]
properly moved with and
[49:32]
seconded.
[49:33]
Supervisor franklin?
[49:34]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[49:39]
generally have not been
[49:40]
supportive of creating or
[49:40]
expanding homebase gun
[49:41]
businesses
[49:41]
.
[49:43]
And suggest keeping with that.
[49:46]
I will be voting no
[49:46]
.
[49:47]
>> Chair Jefferson: any further
[49:47]
discussion?
[49:52]
I am simply going
[49:53]
to abstain from this one.
[49:58]
I recognize the applicant has a
[49:59]
lot of support.
[49:59]
And giving this more or less to
[50:01]
keep a precedent.
[50:02]
So I will go ahead and call for
[50:13]
the vote.
[50:19]
>> motion passes 5/2
[50:20]
supervisors bailey and franklin
[50:21]
voting no, chair jefferson
[50:28]
abstaining from the vote.
[50:29]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[50:32]
very much in the other item is
[50:32]
7e.
[50:33]
>> Tom Gordy: moved to approve.
[50:34]
>> Andrea Bailey: second.
[50:36]
>> Chair Jefferson: any
[50:37]
questions where discussion on
[50:37]
this one?
[50:38]
Supervisor vega.
[50:39]
>> Yesli Vega: earlier this
[50:40]
year we had a presentation from
[50:42]
the chief and I know supervisor
[50:42]
gordy, there has been some
[50:43]
concern in regards to access to
[50:45]
emergency services
[50:52]
.
[50:53]
And so I wanted at least some
[50:54]
type of clarification in
[50:56]
regards to what the plan is
[50:58]
.
[50:59]
It is my understanding based on
[51:01]
the staff report that this does
[51:02]
follow outside the four-minute
[51:02]
travel time for emergency
[51:03]
response and I just want to
[51:05]
know what the plan is in
[51:09]
regards to that.
[51:09]
Not sure if it is for you or
[51:19]
for alice to respond to.
[51:20]
>> I will say we have a new
[51:21]
fire station planned.
[51:22]
It is programmed that is going
[51:33]
to help mitigate this probably
[51:34]
in the time from its
[51:34]
construction for this
[51:35]
development.
[51:35]
It is on wellington road not
[51:36]
more than two miles from its
[51:37]
location that is going to help
[51:38]
us solve the problem in the
[51:38]
area.
[51:39]
But I note it is pretty much in
[51:41]
this entire area.
[51:45]
We do desperately need more
[51:46]
fire support and I know the
[51:46]
chief, that is a priority for
[51:50]
him.
[51:51]
He has been working on getting
[51:52]
the and the news station on
[51:53]
wellington road is going to
[51:54]
help us get that.
[51:57]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[51:58]
Thank you so very much.
[51:59]
If there is no further
[52:02]
discussion I would like to get
[52:02]
a motion.
[52:03]
Sorry, we already have one on
[52:03]
the floor
[52:03]
.
[52:05]
Since there is no further
[52:09]
discussion, let's go ahead and
[52:11]
take the vote.
[52:16]
>> vote unanimous
[52:17]
.
[52:19]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[52:19]
Thank you so very much.
[52:20]
We are now going to go to
[52:23]
agenda item 8 and that is
[52:48]
county executive time.
[52:51]
>> MS. Roble:
[52:57]
>> MR. Shorter: good afternoon.
[52:58]
This is a bit of a surprise to
[52:59]
the team but I wanted to use
[53:00]
this as an opportunity to
[53:01]
really give recognition to our
[53:03]
transportation transformation
[53:04]
management office.
[53:07]
All of them behind me here in
[53:13]
the board chambers of.
[53:13]
They have two years ago this
[53:14]
office was created.
[53:15]
And I will tell you
[53:16]
, they have
[53:20]
become a model team and a model
[53:21]
organization.
[53:21]
We are getting calls from
[53:22]
jurisdictions around the
[53:23]
country and certainly here in
[53:24]
the commonwealth about the work
[53:28]
of transformation.
[53:29]
They been responsible
[53:32]
initiating 41 countywide
[53:34]
projects
[53:35]
.
[53:37]
Nine community-based projects
[53:40]
around the county and have been
[53:45]
doing absolutely phenomenal
[53:45]
work.
[53:45]
I wanted to take this
[53:50]
opportunity to recognize them
[53:51]
as they are transitioning out
[53:52]
in a new group of leaders will
[53:53]
be taking over in
[53:55]
transformation management.
[54:00]
The team has also transformed
[54:01]
key functions modernizing
[54:05]
processes and permitting land
[54:06]
acquisition, planning,
[54:07]
procurement, transportation
[54:08]
projects and community
[54:08]
outreach.
[54:13]
The team is also
[54:14]
supported the launch of offices
[54:15]
such as sustainability,
[54:17]
community safety.
[54:20]
We are very close as we get to
[54:26]
FEBRUARY to coming back to the
[54:26]
board for your consideration
[54:27]
with the department of
[54:28]
transportation and capitol
[54:29]
construction, which will merge
[54:30]
much of our construction and
[54:32]
capitol efforts.
[54:33]
The team has been absolutely
[54:34]
phenomenal making much of that
[54:45]
happened and supporting it
[54:46]
across the county and they have
[54:47]
strengthened the customer
[54:48]
experience by mapping
[54:49]
processing and permitting,
[54:49]
planning libraries, public
[54:51]
works in the clerks office.
[54:52]
Really wanted to express
[54:59]
appreciation for the great work
[54:59]
they have done with a small
[55:00]
token and I have one
[55:01]
certificate for each of the
[55:02]
leaders within pmo.
[55:02]
I'm going to read the
[55:06]
certificate.
[55:09]
Why don't you all come on down
[55:18]
.
[55:19]
[Applause]
[55:19]
So MADAM Chair, this
[55:20]
certificate reads "certificate
[55:21]
of appreciation and recognition
[55:22]
of your outstanding dedication
[55:24]
and leadership to the
[55:27]
transformation management
[55:32]
office during 2024 through 2025
[55:33]
and this is signed by me and I
[55:38]
have one for each of our
[55:39]
phenomenal leaders in
[55:43]
transformation management.
[55:44]
Lisa, do you want to say a few
[55:44]
words?
[55:51]
>> on behalf of myself and
[55:52]
team, I want to thank you for
[55:55]
your innovative idea of this
[55:57]
opportunity.
[56:02]
We have had a great two years
[56:03]
getting to know the county
[56:03]
more, working across
[56:03]
departments
[56:04]
.
[56:06]
We loved being able to enhance
[56:11]
the customer experience and
[56:12]
offer meaningful and impactful
[56:13]
solutions and really just we
[56:22]
will take these tools and
[56:23]
skills back on are really
[56:24]
excited and thankful and really
[56:25]
excited it's continuing and
[56:25]
that the need two for the
[56:26]
office is valued and have
[56:27]
really been beneficial.
[56:29]
Thank you all
[56:33]
.
[56:33]
Thank you.
[56:34]
>> Kenny Boddye: MADAM Chair.
[56:35]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[56:38]
boddye
[56:38]
.
[56:39]
>> Kenny Boddye: I would be
[56:39]
remiss if I didn't mention for
[56:40]
the publix benefit that there
[56:41]
is a podcast.
[56:50]
If people didn't
[56:51]
know, they actually have their
[56:51]
own podcast.
[56:52]
It is for the good content so I
[56:53]
want to put it out for public
[56:53]
benefit.
[56:54]
Thank you.
[56:55]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[56:55]
thank you so very much.
[56:56]
I'm laughing because you are
[56:59]
tall.
[57:00]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you all
[57:09]
very much.
[57:09]
You can have a seat.
[57:10]
We are going to be
[57:11]
transitioning to a new timo.
[57:12]
Mandy has been named our next
[57:13]
transformation management chief
[57:14]
and she will be starting next
[57:14]
month.
[57:17]
Again, I wanted to use this as
[57:17]
an opportunity to say thank
[57:18]
you.
[57:28]
It's not every day and of
[57:29]
course we have the members of
[57:30]
the t mo here, but I will tell
[57:31]
you dozens and dozens of staff
[57:32]
across the county who had to
[57:32]
backfill them in the agency
[57:33]
also had two years of training
[57:37]
and professional development so
[57:38]
want to thank all of them for
[57:39]
serving on those active roles
[57:40]
as well
[57:40]
.
[57:41]
While I am here I wanted to go
[57:43]
ahead and provide the update I
[57:44]
always provide different cxo
[57:44]
time.
[57:49]
There were seven new
[57:50]
directives issued in our last
[57:55]
meeting.
[57:56]
Staff was directed to work with
[57:57]
the towing advisory board and
[58:02]
return in six months with a
[58:02]
report on data points in any
[58:03]
safety concerns or other
[58:08]
impacts related to the updates
[58:09]
to the towing ordinance this
[58:10]
directive was assigned to the
[58:11]
police department.
[58:16]
We were asked to provide a
[58:16]
report one year from now.
[58:17]
That includes an analysis of
[58:23]
the effectiveness of the noise
[58:24]
ordinance.
[58:24]
Any violations found, any
[58:26]
potential revisions to the
[58:26]
noise ordinance that needs to
[58:29]
be made on this was assigned to
[58:43]
our public works department.
[58:44]
Three, we were asked to develop
[58:45]
an inventory of all boards,
[58:46]
committees, commissions,
[58:47]
advisory and/or working groups
[58:48]
established by the board via
[58:49]
resolution or directive.
[58:50]
This directive was assigned to
[58:51]
the clerk of the board.
[58:56]
We
[58:56]
were asked to identify land to
[58:57]
purchase in the woodbridge
[58:58]
magisterial district suitable
[58:59]
to the development of the
[59:01]
community recreation center and
[59:02]
bring back appropriate
[59:03]
regulations for the board
[59:03]
consideration but this
[59:04]
directive was assigned to parks
[59:09]
and ffm.
[59:10]
Five, we were asked to develop
[59:11]
recommendations for
[59:12]
establishing a county owned and
[59:13]
maintained history museum
[59:14]
picked this directive was
[59:29]
assigned to parks
[59:30]
, facilities,
[59:30]
fleet management and to
[59:31]
planning.
[59:31]
Six, we were asked to develop
[59:32]
and present a framework for the
[59:33]
establishment of an
[59:34]
agricultural and forest reserve
[59:35]
picked this directive was
[59:35]
assigned to finance budget,
[59:36]
planning and public works.
[59:37]
And then finally, we were asked
[59:38]
to follow up to previous
[59:39]
directive to expedite the
[59:40]
exploration of the elimination
[59:41]
of the datacenter opportunity
[59:45]
zone overlay district in this
[59:46]
directive was assigned to
[59:50]
planning.
[59:51]
There were three directives
[59:55]
closed since our last meeting.
[59:56]
Response to explore options for
[59:57]
establishing additional
[1:00:00]
community gardens on county
[1:00:01]
owned property in the follow-up
[1:00:05]
directive to add a potential
[1:00:05]
botanical garden at fackler
[1:00:07]
park was sent earlier this
[1:00:11]
month to the board.
[1:00:15]
And finally response to develop
[1:00:15]
a recommendation for a new
[1:00:19]
framework to leverage the power
[1:00:20]
the arts was provided to the
[1:00:23]
board last week.
[1:00:24]
Yes, so those were all the
[1:00:37]
directives opened and closed.
[1:00:37]
I would also like to express
[1:00:38]
real excitement about an
[1:00:39]
opportunity.
[1:00:39]
And I will have the chief to
[1:00:40]
come up and talk a bit about
[1:00:41]
this for a minute or two
[1:00:41]
because it is such a big deal
[1:00:42]
for our county.
[1:00:43]
The county fire rescue system
[1:00:43]
is introducing two major
[1:00:47]
lifesaving advancements here in
[1:00:48]
the county.
[1:00:48]
Nce I got word
[1:00:49]
that we had gotten to this
[1:00:51]
point, I wanted the chief to
[1:00:57]
come up and talk about this
[1:00:58]
because I really wanted the
[1:00:59]
board to have awareness of it
[1:01:00]
but also our community to have
[1:01:00]
awareness of it.
[1:01:00]
Chief?
[1:01:08]
Are you around?
[1:01:09]
>> I appreciate you raising the
[1:01:12]
podium before I got here
[1:01:12]
Good afternoon.
[1:01:22]
Tom, your fire chief.
[1:01:23]
MADAM Chair, members of the
[1:01:24]
board, I am always excited.
[1:01:25]
I am always so proud of the
[1:01:26]
career volunteers staff of the
[1:01:28]
amazing fire rescue system.
[1:01:29]
Even more so when are able to
[1:01:30]
give them the resources they
[1:01:34]
need to literally save lives of
[1:01:35]
our residents and citizens.
[1:01:36]
Our two programs I want to talk
[1:01:37]
about.
[1:01:37]
The first will we will be
[1:01:40]
introducing ultrasound and that
[1:01:47]
means we would be able to look
[1:01:48]
inside of patients.
[1:01:48]
E will
[1:01:49]
look at whether or not they are
[1:01:50]
having congestive heart
[1:01:59]
failure, whether it is a
[1:02:00]
copd
[1:02:01]
issue or they have a collapsed
[1:02:01]
lung.
[1:02:02]
Also be able to see if their
[1:02:02]
heart has actually stopped.
[1:02:03]
All of those are incredibly
[1:02:04]
helpful in the field.
[1:02:05]
The second, just as exciting is
[1:02:06]
we will be delivering whole
[1:02:06]
blood in the field.
[1:02:08]
That means
[1:02:09]
when an individual has a
[1:02:15]
dramatic injury and is bleeding
[1:02:16]
out, right now we don't have
[1:02:17]
the ability unless we call
[1:02:17]
another community to provide
[1:02:18]
whole blood to that person on
[1:02:20]
scene.
[1:02:21]
We will have the ability around
[1:02:24]
the first week of DECEMBER
[1:02:24]
And I can tell he
[1:02:30]
unquestionably
[1:02:31]
, that will save
[1:02:31]
the lives of people in this
[1:02:32]
community who currently die
[1:02:37]
because we can't do it.
[1:02:37]
I'm also excited because we are
[1:02:38]
able to do this without asking
[1:02:40]
for resources and that's always
[1:02:40]
a good spot to be in.
[1:02:41]
As all
[1:02:45]
of you know, we've been looking
[1:02:46]
to try to be efficient with our
[1:02:46]
ems model.
[1:02:47]
We are continuing down that
[1:02:49]
road
[1:02:53]
The last two things is we could
[1:02:54]
not have possibly gotten this
[1:03:03]
done if you haven't approved
[1:03:03]
doctor.
[1:03:04]
[Name] To be our medical
[1:03:05]
director.
[1:03:05]
Most do you know I have a fair
[1:03:06]
amount of energy.
[1:03:06]
I'm not sure where he gets his
[1:03:07]
from.
[1:03:08]
He is bringing forward amazing
[1:03:09]
things for us.
[1:03:15]
This is a perfect example of
[1:03:16]
what we have been able to
[1:03:17]
accomplish with this medical
[1:03:18]
director.
[1:03:19]
I really enjoy working with
[1:03:19]
him.
[1:03:27]
In the last piece is this
[1:03:28]
saturday a volunteer station on
[1:03:29]
f st. We are going to be having
[1:03:30]
a blood drive because you can't
[1:03:30]
give out whole blood if you
[1:03:31]
don't have blood.
[1:03:33]
The good news is saturday from
[1:03:34]
8:00to 1:00.
[1:03:35]
The chief and I will be the
[1:03:41]
first to know the good news is
[1:03:42]
if you wait yourself beforehand
[1:03:45]
and after you will lose weight.
[1:03:46]
I really encourage everyone
[1:03:48]
listening to this to come out
[1:03:50]
from 8:00to 1:00 to our blood
[1:03:52]
drive
[1:03:54]
And a special shout out to.
[1:03:56]
[Name] Helping with this.
[1:04:08]
[Applause]
[1:04:09]
>> MR. Shorter: absolutely
[1:04:09]
amazing.
[1:04:09]
Ou can understand
[1:04:10]
why I wanted to have the chief
[1:04:11]
deliver that message.
[1:04:16]
It is such great news for our
[1:04:16]
community and for all of those
[1:04:17]
who will be helped by our
[1:04:24]
system in the future.
[1:04:31]
I wanted to quickly recognize
[1:04:32]
if you employees for their
[1:04:33]
outstanding work.
[1:04:34]
Big thanks to our planning
[1:04:35]
office in communication and
[1:04:35]
engagement for creating a small
[1:04:36]
area plan hub on the pwc works
[1:04:40]
platform
[1:04:41]
, on the pwc works
[1:04:41]
website.
[1:04:42]
We are going to have the
[1:04:42]
next
[1:04:43]
time we are together on
[1:04:46]
DECEMBER 2, the planning
[1:04:47]
office talk about what's
[1:04:50]
happening on pwc works and
[1:04:53]
highlight advancements they
[1:04:53]
have made.
[1:05:01]
Not just the smaller implants
[1:05:02]
but there been some other
[1:05:02]
advancements we want to
[1:05:03]
highlight.
[1:05:03]
Last but certainly not least, I
[1:05:04]
want to give a big shout out to
[1:05:08]
all of those involved in
[1:05:09]
responding to the gas leak
[1:05:11]
incident last friday.
[1:05:12]
I know that a few of you will
[1:05:16]
probably talk this as well at
[1:05:17]
some point.
[1:05:18]
The event necessitated in the
[1:05:29]
evacuation of 65 townhomes
[1:05:29]
leading to the need to
[1:05:30]
immediately shelter 82 people,
[1:05:31]
11 of whom were children at
[1:05:32]
woodbridge high school on
[1:05:32]
friday.
[1:05:34]
30 adults
[1:05:36]
, two children were
[1:05:37]
further assisted by further
[1:05:38]
emergency management and red
[1:05:41]
cross services and they could
[1:05:42]
not return home after the
[1:05:43]
emergency repair due to the
[1:05:47]
loss of heat.
[1:05:48]
We believe the certainly thanks
[1:05:52]
and recognition are in order
[1:05:55]
There are so many agencies that
[1:05:55]
had a roll to play in this
[1:05:56]
process.
[1:06:00]
We were able to accomplish what
[1:06:00]
we believe was one of the
[1:06:01]
largest if not the largest
[1:06:06]
emergency evacuations that has
[1:06:07]
happened for the purpose of how
[1:06:08]
to this hazardous material
[1:06:14]
relief in recent history
[1:06:15]
We did that seamlessly and
[1:06:16]
humanely and I wanted to
[1:06:17]
recognize all the agencies
[1:06:17]
involved.
[1:06:18]
Are prince william county
[1:06:24]
department of fire and rescue,
[1:06:25]
occoquan woodbridge volunteer
[1:06:26]
fire department, nokesville
[1:06:27]
volunteer department, prince
[1:06:28]
william emergency management,
[1:06:29]
prince william public safety
[1:06:30]
communications.
[1:06:35]
Of course prince william county
[1:06:36]
police, red cross, washington
[1:06:38]
gas, prince william department
[1:06:39]
of services, omni right in
[1:06:42]
prince william public schools
[1:06:43]
all played a part we want to
[1:06:48]
recognize the great work that
[1:06:49]
happened last friday.
[1:06:51]
[Applause]
[1:06:51]
That is all for me.
[1:06:55]
>> Chair Jefferson: hold on
[1:06:56]
supervisor franklin?
[1:06:57]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin: a
[1:06:59]
quick question.
[1:07:02]
I know a month ago you sent our
[1:07:04]
campaign that included a law of
[1:07:07]
important data points
[1:07:08]
I was also wondering whenever
[1:07:12]
you decide to schedule an
[1:07:13]
actual presentation for the
[1:07:14]
board if it can include our
[1:07:20]
marketing strategy for the --
[1:07:22]
whatever we are calling it.
[1:07:25]
The raccoon.
[1:07:26]
>> MR. Shorter: we absolutely
[1:07:33]
will
[1:07:34]
They MAY or MAY not be
[1:07:34]
appearance.
[1:07:35]
I think we are planning to come
[1:07:36]
in DECEMBER with a presentation
[1:07:37]
and an update to the board.
[1:07:38]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[1:07:38]
that is helpful.
[1:07:39]
i want to make sure we are
[1:07:40]
marketing in various parts of
[1:07:47]
the county, various modes
[1:07:48]
I haven't seen a lot but I'm in
[1:07:49]
the right places.
[1:07:50]
I'm certainly up and down route
[1:07:53]
1. I MAY have questions about
[1:07:54]
where exactly are we doing our
[1:08:03]
targeting and how effective is
[1:08:04]
the actual campaign.
[1:08:05]
I know the litter crew is doing
[1:08:06]
the work but we need to raise
[1:08:07]
awareness to residents so that
[1:08:08]
we all do better
[1:08:11]
>> MR. Shorter: happy to
[1:08:11]
include that.
[1:08:12]
>> Chair Jefferson: we did
[1:08:16]
speak about that and I
[1:08:16]
, for the
[1:08:16]
record.
[1:08:17]
I did not put her up to ask
[1:08:20]
about trash.
[1:08:21]
But I want everyone to know
[1:08:24]
whenever you pick up a piece of
[1:08:25]
litter, the spirit of trashy
[1:08:33]
lives within you.
[1:08:33]
I couldn't help it.
[1:08:33]
Love the
[1:08:34]
mom jokes.
[1:08:35]
Supervisor bailey?
[1:08:36]
>> Andrea Bailey: I wanted to
[1:08:36]
thank
[1:08:39]
, personally thank on
[1:08:45]
behalf of the board lisa as she
[1:08:47]
was a part of the team
[1:08:52]
One of the things I got scared
[1:08:53]
about was who is going to take
[1:08:54]
care of the crc.
[1:08:55]
And she took it with her.
[1:08:57]
She had two new assignments to
[1:09:01]
work with her team and I really
[1:09:02]
appreciate the delivery of the
[1:09:05]
crisis receiving center as you
[1:09:08]
embarked upon raising us up
[1:09:09]
with your team for prince
[1:09:11]
william county.
[1:09:12]
Your giftedness goes before
[1:09:13]
you.
[1:09:20]
So thank you.
[1:09:21]
>> Chair Jefferson: we don't
[1:09:22]
have any further comments or
[1:09:23]
you can roll into agency time.
[1:09:24]
I'm sorry.
[1:09:28]
County attorney time.
[1:09:50]
>> MS. Roble: this afternoon in
[1:09:52]
session we will have
[1:09:53]
consultation with legal counsel
[1:09:54]
and briefings by staff members
[1:09:55]
pertaining to the discussion or
[1:09:55]
consideration of acquisition of
[1:09:56]
real property for public
[1:09:57]
purposes to include for public
[1:09:58]
safety and other public uses
[1:09:59]
where discussion in an open
[1:10:00]
meeting would adversely affect
[1:10:01]
the bargaining position in
[1:10:01]
litigating posture or
[1:10:02]
negotiating strategy of the
[1:10:03]
public body.
[1:10:03]
We will have a personal
[1:10:04]
discussion relating to the
[1:10:05]
appointments and officers of
[1:10:06]
the potomac and transportation
[1:10:14]
commission chair pro tem of
[1:10:14]
the
[1:10:15]
board.
[1:10:15]
Members of the board audit
[1:10:16]
committee, members of the joint
[1:10:17]
audit committee, and members
[1:10:19]
the metropolitan washington
[1:10:20]
council of governments climate
[1:10:21]
energy and environmental policy
[1:10:22]
committee and chesapeake bay
[1:10:22]
and water resource policy
[1:10:24]
committee.
[1:10:24]
We will personal discussions
[1:10:25]
relating to the animal
[1:10:26]
evaluation of the county
[1:10:26]
attorney and the county
[1:10:27]
executive or consultation in
[1:10:28]
briefing and discussion in an
[1:10:29]
open meeting would adversely
[1:10:30]
affect the bargaining position
[1:10:34]
in litigating posture and
[1:10:35]
negotiating strategy and these
[1:10:35]
are appropriate for closed
[1:10:37]
session pursuant to 2.2-3711 a,
[1:10:39]
one entry of the code of
[1:10:40]
virginia.
[1:10:40]
>> Andrea Bailey: the moved.
[1:10:42]
>> Kenny Boddye: second.
[1:10:42]
>> Chair Jefferson: properly
[1:10:43]
moved and seconded.
[1:10:43]
Let's go ahead and take our
[1:10:44]
vote.
[1:10:49]
>> vote unanimous
[1:10:53]
>> Chair Jefferson: okay.
[1:10:54]
Now we can do agency time.
[1:10:55]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you very
[1:10:55]
much.
[1:10:56]
want to thank the sheriff and
[1:10:57]
all our constitutional officers
[1:11:02]
I see the clerk here as well
[1:11:03]
for their willingness to come
[1:11:03]
down.
[1:11:05]
What we wanted to do, unlike
[1:11:08]
last year, is out of our
[1:11:09]
constitutional officers present
[1:11:11]
directly to the board their
[1:11:12]
budget as part of the, as we
[1:11:15]
get started in terms of the fy
[1:11:18]
27 budget development process
[1:11:19]
for the process as we talked
[1:11:20]
about during the committee
[1:11:23]
meeting this morning will move
[1:11:23]
forward in the way that it
[1:11:27]
always does.
[1:11:28]
But we won't wanted to make
[1:11:29]
sure constitutional officers
[1:11:31]
had an opportunity to present
[1:11:34]
to the board directly.
[1:11:35]
We are starting that process in
[1:11:36]
earnest with the sheriff and I
[1:11:39]
want to thank him again for
[1:11:41]
being here.
[1:11:54]
You can take it away.
[1:11:55]
>> I am sheriff glenn hill, I
[1:11:56]
am elected every four years to
[1:12:06]
serve prince william county and
[1:12:07]
the city of manassas and
[1:12:07]
manassas park.
[1:12:08]
My sincere thanks to the board
[1:12:09]
for giving me the opportunity
[1:12:10]
to come before you to present
[1:12:11]
the sheriff's office fy 27
[1:12:13]
budget request.
[1:12:14]
With me this afternoon as chief
[1:12:15]
deputy
[1:12:18]
, budget analyst whitney
[1:12:23]
brown
[1:12:24]
During my presentation I will
[1:12:27]
talk briefly about who we are,
[1:12:28]
how we serve our mandated
[1:12:29]
responsibilities in our
[1:12:34]
prevention program that
[1:12:34]
contributes to a better quality
[1:12:40]
of life for our community.
[1:12:41]
I will conclude my fy 27 budget
[1:12:44]
request and answer any
[1:12:55]
questions you MAY have.
[1:12:56]
Our mission statement explains
[1:12:58]
our commitment to our values
[1:13:00]
profession, and the community
[1:13:01]
we serve
[1:13:13]
Who we are.
[1:13:13]
The
[1:13:14]
sheriff's office the oldest
[1:13:15]
numbers agency established in
[1:13:15]
prince william county.
[1:13:23]
The police department was
[1:13:23]
established in 1970 to provide
[1:13:24]
law enforcement duties picked
[1:13:25]
the prince william manassas
[1:13:26]
regional jail operation begun
[1:13:29]
in 1982.
[1:13:29]
All court functions remain with
[1:13:30]
the sheriff's office, but we
[1:13:34]
collaborate with all public
[1:13:35]
safety agencies to maintain the
[1:13:38]
highest level of service for
[1:13:44]
our community.
[1:13:48]
This slide is a summary of how
[1:13:53]
we serve our mandated primary
[1:13:54]
responsibilities and how we
[1:13:55]
assist other law enforcement
[1:14:02]
agencies.
[1:14:10]
The most important position on
[1:14:11]
our organization chart is at
[1:14:12]
the top.
[1:14:18]
The citizens and community we
[1:14:19]
serve.
[1:14:20]
additionally the chart allows
[1:14:20]
everyone to see the chain of
[1:14:23]
command and understand the
[1:14:24]
structure and
[1:14:24]
functions of our
[1:14:35]
office.
[1:14:36]
Courthouse security.
[1:14:38]
Providing courthouse security
[1:14:39]
is one of the many mandated
[1:14:44]
responsibilities of a sure.
[1:14:46]
The court services division is
[1:14:51]
responsible upholding the
[1:14:52]
integrity of the judicial
[1:14:52]
process provisions office
[1:14:54]
provides 24 hours a committee
[1:14:55]
in and around the judicial
[1:14:56]
center complex
[1:15:01]
In fy 25 the courthouse screen
[1:15:03]
300,137 individuals who entered
[1:15:05]
the courthouse
[1:15:11]
Approximately 90 people who
[1:15:11]
entered the courthouse and
[1:15:14]
therefore court purposes
[1:15:16]
Some of them are uncomfortable
[1:15:17]
entering and being in the
[1:15:17]
courthouse
[1:15:21]
That is why I'm so proud of my
[1:15:22]
deputies who do an outstanding
[1:15:25]
job reading, screening, and
[1:15:25]
assisting
[1:15:29]
individuals, entering
[1:15:30]
the courthouse to make them
[1:15:32]
feel comfortable.
[1:15:33]
They also assist the physically
[1:15:36]
impaired and ensure businesses
[1:15:38]
know how to get to their
[1:15:39]
destination.
[1:15:43]
You won't find too many
[1:15:43]
courthouse is anywhere that
[1:15:44]
greet the public when they come
[1:15:49]
in and assist them.
[1:15:52]
Deputies off often respond to
[1:15:56]
unusual circumstances and
[1:15:57]
situations in and around the
[1:15:58]
courthouse and are often the
[1:16:01]
first responders when someone
[1:16:02]
suffers a medical emergency
[1:16:06]
Some officers have alarms in
[1:16:12]
case of an emergency.
[1:16:13]
We work with other agencies in
[1:16:14]
the courthouse to implement
[1:16:15]
evacuation procedures
[1:16:16]
Deputies escort individuals and
[1:16:22]
families to ensure their safe
[1:16:28]
departure from the courthouse.
[1:16:29]
Courtroom security.
[1:16:29]
Will
[1:16:30]
focus on courtroom security
[1:16:35]
because this is a function of
[1:16:36]
our office of the requesting
[1:16:40]
additional personnel.
[1:16:42]
The courthouse is 18 courtrooms
[1:16:45]
Where the second busiest
[1:16:45]
courthouse.
[1:16:49]
Our circuit court has seven
[1:16:55]
courtrooms
[1:16:58]
Court room deputies primary
[1:16:58]
responsibility is
[1:16:59]
to provide
[1:17:00]
security and maintain order in
[1:17:00]
the court room, including
[1:17:03]
inmate supervision.
[1:17:04]
And prince of them county
[1:17:05]
deputies provide support to the
[1:17:10]
clerks and managing jurors and
[1:17:11]
handle additional related tests
[1:17:14]
and other duties are courthouse
[1:17:16]
security and courtroom security
[1:17:20]
is a collective effort
[1:17:21]
Everyone, regardless of their
[1:17:26]
rank, including me and the
[1:17:26]
captains of rain, we must all
[1:17:30]
participate to ensure every
[1:17:31]
courtroom is properly staffed
[1:17:32]
and advanced preparation is
[1:17:37]
required
[1:17:38]
In other words, we plan days
[1:17:39]
before how we are going to
[1:17:41]
manage our courtrooms
[1:17:42]
two deputies are assigned to
[1:17:46]
each circuit court room.
[1:17:47]
Some cases require additional
[1:17:52]
deputies for security.
[1:17:52]
Jury movement and other
[1:17:53]
additional screening of
[1:17:54]
courtroom attendees before
[1:17:59]
court begins frequently maria
[1:18:00]
signs from other duties to
[1:18:03]
assist in our courtrooms
[1:18:06]
I will talk later about the
[1:18:11]
presentation about the deputies
[1:18:12]
assistant and his impact on the
[1:18:14]
duties and responsibilities are
[1:18:18]
to assist us with court
[1:18:19]
responsibilities, we utilize
[1:18:21]
off-duty jail officers reserve
[1:18:27]
deputies.
[1:18:28]
Our general district court past
[1:18:31]
five courtrooms
[1:18:32]
If one deputy is assigned to
[1:18:38]
each courtroom the deputies
[1:18:39]
assist in this courtroom
[1:18:40]
receive most of the assistance
[1:18:42]
from the deputies assigned to
[1:18:43]
the deployment and inmate
[1:18:47]
movement.
[1:18:48]
Juvenile and domestic relations
[1:18:52]
court is our third court.
[1:18:54]
Uvenile domestic relations
[1:18:59]
court has six courtrooms.
[1:18:59]
Ne
[1:19:00]
deputy assigned to each one of
[1:19:02]
those courtrooms
[1:19:03]
A new law went into effect JULY
[1:19:06]
1 permitting the use of
[1:19:12]
juvenile restraints unless
[1:19:12]
approved by a judge.
[1:19:13]
We now have a court order to
[1:19:21]
request a special hearing to
[1:19:22]
use restraints there's no
[1:19:22]
guarantee our request is going
[1:19:23]
to be granted and we have had
[1:19:33]
some interesting experiences in
[1:19:33]
supervising our juveniles.
[1:19:33]
People
[1:19:34]
are waiting to appear in
[1:19:36]
court frequently asked for
[1:19:36]
assistance involving security
[1:19:39]
and safety in the courthouse.
[1:19:40]
Many people we escort to the
[1:19:41]
vehicles are involved in cases
[1:19:46]
out of juvenile court.
[1:19:47]
Are controls in a dispatch
[1:19:52]
The sheriff's office public
[1:19:53]
safety telecommunications for
[1:19:58]
calls for service and the
[1:19:59]
judicial center complex called
[1:20:00]
transportation and other units
[1:20:01]
communicate with the
[1:20:04]
dispatchers.
[1:20:05]
Process deputies, the ones out
[1:20:08]
in our community communicate
[1:20:09]
with prince william county
[1:20:12]
dispatchers
[1:20:14]
They receive and process all
[1:20:14]
incoming calls for
[1:20:16]
this office.
[1:20:17]
Our public safety
[1:20:18]
telecommunications required to
[1:20:23]
complete dispatch basic
[1:20:23]
academy.
[1:20:26]
Additionally they maintain a
[1:20:30]
level of certification through
[1:20:34]
a virginia criminal information
[1:20:37]
network.
[1:20:38]
They monitor over 200 cameras
[1:20:41]
to assist courthouse deputies
[1:20:44]
pick they monitor and dispatch
[1:20:45]
50 emergency alarms throughout
[1:20:49]
the courthouse so a lot of
[1:20:50]
offices have those in their
[1:20:52]
offices and our dispatcher
[1:20:57]
monitors those
[1:20:59]
They also checked the movement
[1:21:00]
of inmates in the courthouse
[1:21:03]
throughout the courthouse on a
[1:21:05]
daily basis
[1:21:09]
Our employment personnel are
[1:21:20]
assigned to vertical implement
[1:21:20]
to receive inmates from the
[1:21:21]
adult detention center from
[1:21:22]
court.
[1:21:23]
inmates are then escorted to
[1:21:23]
and
[1:21:25]
from courtrooms within the
[1:21:25]
courthouse.
[1:21:26]
Inmates remain in our custody a
[1:21:27]
return to the adult detention
[1:21:29]
center to serve a sentence,
[1:21:30]
remain in custody pending a
[1:21:31]
court date or they MAY be
[1:21:31]
released.
[1:21:33]
They also take into custody
[1:21:36]
persons committed to adult
[1:21:39]
detention center and process
[1:21:40]
and for them to the adult
[1:21:42]
detention center
[1:21:46]
In fy 25 this section escorted
[1:21:46]
30,000 inmates to and from the
[1:21:49]
courthouse to the adult
[1:21:54]
detention center.
[1:21:55]
The live scan section is
[1:21:56]
responsible for mandated
[1:21:57]
processing of section sexual
[1:22:05]
offenders for persons convicted
[1:22:05]
of certain offenses are
[1:22:06]
processed and dna is collected
[1:22:07]
and sent to the state forensic
[1:22:09]
laboratory.
[1:22:09]
Persons released by the police
[1:22:12]
on a summons for violations are
[1:22:17]
processed by this section after
[1:22:25]
their court appearances.
[1:22:26]
They also assist people
[1:22:27]
requesting fingerprints for job
[1:22:27]
applications
[1:22:31]
We also conduct background
[1:22:31]
checks for citizens applying
[1:22:32]
for
[1:22:32]
concealed weapons.
[1:22:36]
In fy
[1:22:37]
25 we conducted 6002 at a 24
[1:22:38]
background checks
[1:22:40]
The background checks done to
[1:22:42]
assist the clerk of the court
[1:22:45]
issuing concealed weapons
[1:22:45]
permits
[1:22:56]
Our operations division and
[1:22:57]
some of our core functions
[1:23:05]
Civil process deputies are very
[1:23:06]
busy.
[1:23:07]
Deputies assigned to our civil
[1:23:07]
process of legal documents
[1:23:08]
within prince william county
[1:23:09]
and the city of manassas and
[1:23:13]
manassas park.
[1:23:14]
Most we serve are posted on the
[1:23:18]
property, but some require
[1:23:19]
personal service and are often
[1:23:22]
times consuming.
[1:23:23]
There are several documents we
[1:23:26]
serve the required two
[1:23:29]
deputies.
[1:23:30]
In fy 25 we serve 73,522
[1:23:39]
To the document are
[1:23:39]
convictions.
[1:23:43]
To complete the execution of an
[1:23:46]
eviction requires at least
[1:23:51]
three visits to the residence
[1:23:52]
even though we get one document
[1:23:53]
that is going to require
[1:23:54]
several visits to that
[1:23:58]
residence for can fy 25 we
[1:24:07]
executed 3091 evictions with
[1:24:07]
four deputies.
[1:24:07]
Most deputies I
[1:24:08]
have on my eviction squad.
[1:24:09]
We also executed 172 letters
[1:24:14]
and conducted for sheriff
[1:24:15]
sales.
[1:24:16]
Also in fy 25 to assist the
[1:24:16]
eviction squad because they
[1:24:21]
need assistance to get their
[1:24:21]
work done, the civil process
[1:25:04]
deputy served 512 if they are
[1:25:07]
in the area.
[1:25:13]
Sometimes we are in areas where
[1:25:13]
there is no police presence and
[1:25:14]
when car comes out the deputy
[1:25:15]
would assist the police
[1:25:15]
department.
[1:25:19]
Sometimes the deputies are the
[1:25:25]
first ones on the scene.
[1:25:25]
Funeral escorts are mandated.
[1:25:26]
It is not a mandated
[1:25:32]
responsibility.
[1:25:32]
you sheriff it is absolutely
[1:25:34]
necessary to provide the
[1:25:38]
service to our community.
[1:25:39]
We get a lotta nice letters
[1:25:46]
from the citizens about how.
[1:25:47]
I especially like the letters
[1:25:49]
who come from people who visit
[1:25:49]
our community are here from a
[1:25:52]
funeral and see how we provide
[1:25:52]
this service for our community.
[1:25:58]
In fy 25 this section performs
[1:26:02]
333 funeral escorts.
[1:26:03]
Providing funeral escorts sends
[1:26:06]
a message to our community and
[1:26:10]
businesses about who we are and
[1:26:11]
as an agency in prince william
[1:26:17]
county in the city of manassas
[1:26:17]
and manassas park.
[1:26:18]
When discussing earlier there
[1:26:19]
is a minute deputies from other
[1:26:19]
duties
[1:26:22]
, the difference we
[1:26:24]
normally pole to assist us
[1:26:26]
they are our civil process
[1:26:32]
deputies.
[1:26:33]
Transportation to and from
[1:26:35]
criminal justice facilities is
[1:26:39]
a challenging daily process,
[1:26:42]
mainly because of the distance
[1:26:43]
to other jails and facilities
[1:26:47]
in the state.
[1:26:47]
Next we have temporary
[1:26:48]
detention orders.
[1:26:52]
By virginia code, all persons
[1:26:53]
committed to facilities for
[1:27:00]
treatment are transported by
[1:27:01]
primary law
[1:27:02]
enforcement agencies
[1:27:03]
in that jurisdiction for prince
[1:27:03]
william county it is all our
[1:27:04]
police department.
[1:27:07]
Before the law changed about 10
[1:27:07]
years ago it was the sheriff's
[1:27:10]
office responsibility.
[1:27:11]
If the person is in crisis, is
[1:27:14]
a juvenile and eight number
[1:27:15]
eight detention order is issued
[1:27:21]
in the juvenile is medically
[1:27:22]
cleared for transport, it is
[1:27:23]
the police departments
[1:27:24]
responsibility to transport the
[1:27:25]
person in crisis.
[1:27:26]
By state law, the petition is a
[1:27:30]
subpoena notifying the parent
[1:27:32]
or guardian of the hearing date
[1:27:32]
and time location.
[1:27:36]
This petition can only be
[1:27:42]
served by a deputy sheriff.
[1:27:43]
Regardless of when this occurs,
[1:27:44]
the sheriff's office agrees to
[1:27:51]
do all juvenile transport for
[1:27:52]
our police department is office
[1:27:53]
assists the police department
[1:27:58]
transporting persons in crisis.
[1:27:59]
The other times during the week
[1:27:59]
my office agreed to do to
[1:28:00]
career eat detention order
[1:28:04]
transports.
[1:28:05]
Our agency agreed help because
[1:28:07]
I know our police department
[1:28:08]
are busy and when you have a
[1:28:12]
transport such as a person in
[1:28:13]
crisis it takes to officers to
[1:28:17]
do the transports.
[1:28:18]
So we assist them to keep the
[1:28:19]
officers on the street and I
[1:28:21]
have deputy sheriffs on call so
[1:28:22]
we can do the transport for our
[1:28:25]
police department.
[1:28:29]
In fy 25 this section a civil
[1:28:29]
transport totaled 4107 hours
[1:28:30]
spent.
[1:28:34]
In fy 25 we assisted the police
[1:28:36]
department during civil
[1:28:37]
transports totaling 3599.
[1:28:41]
Starting this fiscal year the
[1:28:42]
courts are now sending court
[1:28:44]
orders to our offices to
[1:28:55]
transport -- in prince within
[1:28:55]
county.
[1:28:59]
These transports are statewide
[1:29:00]
and require at least two
[1:29:01]
deputies to perform the
[1:29:02]
transports.
[1:29:06]
So far we have done 47 of these
[1:29:17]
transports this fiscal year.
[1:29:18]
By mandate the sheriff's office
[1:29:19]
is responsible for post
[1:29:20]
commitment hearing transports
[1:29:21]
to include transports to mental
[1:29:22]
hospitals in the commonwealth.
[1:29:27]
Please keep in mind for
[1:29:28]
cautionary reasons and safety
[1:29:33]
reasons, each transport
[1:29:34]
requires two deputies.
[1:29:35]
80 percent of our transports
[1:29:40]
are done with two deputies.
[1:29:40]
I do not feel comfortable
[1:29:46]
sending one deputy on a
[1:29:46]
transport by themselves who
[1:29:48]
deputies frequently travel to
[1:29:49]
facilities all across the
[1:29:55]
commonwealth of virginia.
[1:29:56]
Depending on what time they
[1:29:56]
leave prince william county and
[1:29:58]
distance traveled, they often
[1:29:59]
stay overnight and return the
[1:30:02]
following day which means they
[1:30:03]
are not available for duty the
[1:30:04]
next day
[1:30:21]
Warrants the warrant section
[1:30:22]
handles all support imposed
[1:30:23]
eviction warrants who can fy 25
[1:30:24]
the warrant section serves 773
[1:30:25]
warrants.
[1:30:25]
We work very closely with the
[1:30:26]
adult probation office to
[1:30:27]
apprehend and serve probation
[1:30:27]
violations.
[1:30:30]
We serve court order violations
[1:30:31]
and failure to appear in court
[1:30:32]
violations as well.
[1:30:34]
Court
[1:30:35]
order executions are very
[1:30:38]
powerful report example, a
[1:30:39]
child removal order requires a
[1:30:44]
minimum of four deputies to
[1:30:45]
transfer the child to the
[1:30:46]
custody of the other parent or
[1:30:48]
guardian.
[1:30:53]
Those situations can be
[1:30:54]
emotional, time-consuming and
[1:31:03]
it requires good communication
[1:31:03]
skills and patient.
[1:31:04]
Dditionally the section is
[1:31:05]
responsible for out-of-state x
[1:31:06]
traditions.
[1:31:06]
If the extradition involves
[1:31:08]
flying
[1:31:08]
, deputies are required
[1:31:10]
to be trained and certified to
[1:31:16]
fly while owned.
[1:31:17]
Are deputies ensure the average
[1:31:19]
of 30 traffic and one is
[1:31:23]
In other words, we are on the
[1:31:28]
street a law and we see people
[1:31:29]
violating the law speeding my
[1:31:30]
deputies occasionally will
[1:31:33]
write a speeding summons
[1:31:47]
Our administration division and
[1:31:48]
core functions of our
[1:31:52]
administration division.
[1:31:56]
Our human resources division is
[1:31:57]
responsible for recruitment and
[1:32:05]
our application processing.
[1:32:06]
Training all deputies on law
[1:32:07]
enforcement is a certified and
[1:32:10]
trained with law enforcement
[1:32:13]
certification., deputies are
[1:32:14]
also certified in civil process
[1:32:15]
and courtroom security.
[1:32:19]
Some
[1:32:20]
deputies our jails are defined
[1:32:20]
to maintain certification.
[1:32:23]
Our deputies also mandated to
[1:32:27]
attend 40 hours of in-service
[1:32:31]
training every two years.
[1:32:32]
We have several other training
[1:32:33]
requirements that exceed an
[1:32:39]
additional 80 hours
[1:32:40]
We have two deputies
[1:32:41]
permanently assigned to the
[1:32:44]
criminal justice academy.
[1:32:45]
Accreditation, we were the
[1:32:47]
first agency in the
[1:32:50]
commonwealth to be accredited
[1:32:55]
through the virginia law
[1:32:56]
enforcement professional
[1:32:58]
standards commission.
[1:33:02]
We just completed our seventh
[1:33:03]
accreditation assessment and
[1:33:04]
should receive our
[1:33:08]
certification certificate in
[1:33:08]
DECEMBER.
[1:33:09]
This section also handles all
[1:33:28]
of our internal affairs.
[1:33:34]
As of today -- okay.
[1:33:38]
Community services
[1:33:40]
Let me back up.
[1:33:41]
Our community services
[1:33:45]
We start with project
[1:33:45]
lifesaver.
[1:33:53]
We placed bracelets on seniors
[1:33:54]
with alzheimer's and autistic
[1:33:55]
children who tend to wander or
[1:33:55]
run away.
[1:33:58]
The bracelets emits a signal on
[1:33:59]
a frequency and it allows us to
[1:34:03]
locate a missing client.
[1:34:07]
Revisit our clients to ensure
[1:34:08]
the bracelet is properly in
[1:34:09]
place and to change the
[1:34:12]
batteries.
[1:34:13]
Most of our clients refer to us
[1:34:21]
because the police department
[1:34:22]
as properly responded to the
[1:34:22]
residence because a person is
[1:34:23]
lost or walked away and the
[1:34:26]
referred most people to apply
[1:34:29]
for applications for us to come
[1:34:30]
out and put them on the project
[1:34:30]
lifesaver.
[1:34:36]
We use our tracking equipment
[1:34:37]
to locate missing clients.
[1:34:38]
All police station time
[1:34:38]
tracking equipment that can be
[1:34:39]
utilized by the sheriff's
[1:34:40]
office personnel or respondent
[1:34:45]
in 2022 we had 33 are lifesaver
[1:34:46]
program.
[1:34:50]
Currently we 54 clients.
[1:34:57]
28 adults, 26 children in the
[1:34:58]
program for gaza today we have
[1:34:59]
15 pending applications
[1:35:03]
, and I
[1:35:04]
do not want to say no to any
[1:35:05]
family who wants to put a
[1:35:12]
family member on project
[1:35:13]
lifesaver.
[1:35:14]
Unlike some jurisdictions we do
[1:35:14]
not charge a fee for families
[1:35:15]
to be on the program.
[1:35:19]
Also, I have a senior program.
[1:35:20]
restarted the safe program
[1:35:24]
about eight years ago because
[1:35:27]
we learned of a senior that
[1:35:28]
failed and it was a tragic
[1:35:33]
ending and we thought that we
[1:35:34]
could do something to help our
[1:35:35]
seniors.
[1:35:36]
We provide medical equipment to
[1:35:37]
seniors who cannot afford it at
[1:35:39]
no cost.
[1:36:01]
In 2022 -- for our community.
[1:36:04]
I get some good comments from
[1:36:09]
our seniors because they get a
[1:36:10]
joy out in the deputies coming
[1:36:11]
to the house spending time with
[1:36:11]
them
[1:36:14]
, talking to them about
[1:36:18]
security issues but it makes a
[1:36:18]
difference with our seniors.
[1:36:22]
Argon safety program
[1:36:23]
, argon
[1:36:23]
safety program is properly
[1:36:28]
programmed for children.
[1:36:29]
In fy 20 find this program is
[1:36:31]
presented to over 5000 students
[1:36:35]
In 2023 this program receive
[1:36:37]
the virginia association of
[1:36:38]
counties achievement award
[1:36:44]
Our rate aggression and defense
[1:36:45]
program are currently we
[1:36:46]
conduct about two classes a
[1:36:49]
year.
[1:36:49]
It's difficult to schedule
[1:36:56]
these classes, but I want to
[1:36:57]
see if we can do at least two
[1:36:58]
classes next year.
[1:37:10]
Unclaimed residents here come
[1:37:11]
the only agency in the county
[1:37:12]
that handles unclaimed
[1:37:12]
residence.
[1:37:13]
The primary law enforcement
[1:37:14]
agency is responsible for
[1:37:14]
residence.
[1:37:15]
It was the sheriffs
[1:37:16]
responsibility until the law
[1:37:19]
changed about 11 years ago.
[1:37:20]
Because I had a policy in place
[1:37:25]
to comply with the law, I agree
[1:37:26]
because I represent not only
[1:37:26]
prince william county but
[1:37:27]
manassas and manassas park to
[1:37:31]
continue this responsibility.
[1:37:32]
In fy 25 we received about 26
[1:37:34]
cases.
[1:37:35]
Each case requires about 20
[1:37:37]
hours of work.
[1:37:39]
Those are include locating
[1:37:42]
relatives working with -- and
[1:37:45]
to obtain a court order to
[1:37:47]
close out the case.
[1:37:51]
We also conduct a yearly
[1:37:52]
ceremony to honor and provide a
[1:37:56]
dignified burial for our
[1:38:01]
unclaimed deceased residents
[1:38:06]
Our civil disturbance union.
[1:38:11]
In 2020 200 demonstrators
[1:38:12]
attempted to enter the
[1:38:15]
courthouse and we persuaded the
[1:38:19]
crowd to leave and prevented
[1:38:21]
any confrontation.
[1:38:22]
I think some your board members
[1:38:23]
might have been there
[1:38:24]
that day.
[1:38:28]
I am very proud of how officers
[1:38:34]
reacted to our demonstrators
[1:38:35]
When we talk about treating
[1:38:36]
people with dignity and
[1:38:36]
respect, this is a prime
[1:38:38]
example of how we should treat
[1:38:45]
people in those situations.
[1:38:46]
We were not prepared to handle
[1:38:46]
a group of that size so to
[1:38:48]
prevent future issues I sent
[1:38:49]
staff to training and purchased
[1:38:51]
equipment to manage any
[1:38:55]
disturbances that MAY occur.
[1:38:56]
I would be remiss if I did not
[1:39:01]
mention the incredible work on
[1:39:01]
deputies do to support special
[1:39:03]
olympics.
[1:39:04]
Each year we hold a tournament.
[1:39:10]
We raise 50 $6000 to support
[1:39:11]
special olympics.
[1:39:16]
We hosted two golf tournaments.
[1:39:17]
We used those funds to buy a
[1:39:19]
drone and other equipment
[1:39:32]
needed for the program.
[1:39:33]
This is an agency basis.
[1:39:33]
Bensalem county revenues
[1:39:45]
include charges for service.
[1:39:46]
Charges for service are three
[1:39:47]
percent of our funding so we
[1:39:47]
can see how much we get from
[1:39:48]
the compensation board.
[1:39:49]
The
[1:39:50]
city of manassas, manassas
[1:39:51]
park.
[1:39:55]
Currently our full-time staff
[1:39:57]
99 part-time sworn, 5.5
[1:40:00]
We have 17
[1:40:07]
, 121.5 total.
[1:40:08]
Also, we have seven reserve
[1:40:13]
deputies that come in to assist
[1:40:13]
us.
[1:40:14]
We require them to come in once
[1:40:19]
a month.
[1:40:20]
I think CHAIRMAN Vega is on our
[1:40:21]
reserve deputies that comes in
[1:40:22]
hopes of sometimes.
[1:40:40]
Thank you.
[1:40:41]
Requesting $15,000 no fte to
[1:40:41]
assist us with additional
[1:40:45]
equipment to support project
[1:40:52]
lifesaving.
[1:40:53]
We 15 people applications and
[1:40:54]
waiting to be processed.
[1:40:55]
I have been wanting to say no
[1:41:03]
to any of these clients -- in
[1:41:04]
case something happens we can
[1:41:08]
find it.
[1:41:09]
We also will be asking uniform
[1:41:11]
stuffer 12 fte.
[1:41:15]
We also asked for a leading
[1:41:16]
business service specialist in
[1:41:29]
our communications analysts.
[1:41:29]
I talked about some of them
[1:41:30]
earlier in the transportation
[1:41:32]
and court services division to
[1:41:34]
address inmate jury and chris's
[1:41:38]
transportation.
[1:41:39]
We certainly need extra
[1:41:40]
deputies to help us in
[1:41:40]
transportation
[1:41:48]
Course one of the big issues is
[1:41:49]
i do not want to san juan
[1:41:50]
deputy on a transport with a
[1:42:04]
person that is in crisis.
[1:42:05]
Uniform stop operation impacts.
[1:42:06]
Deputies are frequently
[1:42:10]
reassigned from other essential
[1:42:11]
duties are going to mention
[1:42:12]
pulling people from the civil
[1:42:14]
process to come here and help
[1:42:18]
us in our courtrooms
[1:42:18]
, that's
[1:42:23]
because we have a law and
[1:42:24]
trials that require more than
[1:42:25]
two deputies in the courtroom.
[1:42:26]
To get additional help optical
[1:42:27]
from other areas to come into
[1:42:29]
assist that.
[1:42:35]
Also we had to pull from the
[1:42:36]
adult detention center to use
[1:42:46]
those off-duty to assist us.
[1:42:47]
Deputies often juggle multiple
[1:42:48]
high-risk duties increasing
[1:42:49]
fatigue and safety.
[1:42:49]
When I mentioned deputies have
[1:42:50]
to travel long distance other
[1:42:51]
facilities to do the transport,
[1:42:52]
a lot of times they are tired
[1:42:53]
when they get back and we can't
[1:42:54]
use them so it has an impact on
[1:42:59]
our staffing.
[1:43:00]
Also, when I talked about the
[1:43:01]
hours a mandated training we
[1:43:03]
are required to do with 40
[1:43:04]
hours mandated but we have
[1:43:06]
other hours a training
[1:43:08]
required.
[1:43:10]
For example, each deputy has to
[1:43:14]
be trained and be certified in
[1:43:39]
case they have to use it.
[1:43:40]
Some of the operational
[1:43:42]
benefits increased case
[1:43:42]
faulting.
[1:43:43]
We look at a number of cases
[1:43:49]
have a court
[1:43:51]
We talked about the legislative
[1:43:51]
change.
[1:43:52]
One of the legislative changes
[1:43:54]
was in juvenile court
[1:44:01]
that legislative change
[1:44:02]
requires us to have one
[1:44:07]
deputies because as I mentioned
[1:44:08]
earlier the unpredictable
[1:44:08]
actions of juvenile sometimes
[1:44:09]
they have to make sure the
[1:44:11]
deputies on site.
[1:44:15]
We had injuries restrained
[1:44:16]
juveniles in our court so to
[1:44:19]
prevent those things we need
[1:44:20]
extra deputies in our juvenile
[1:44:23]
courts.
[1:44:24]
Also mentioned in the hallways
[1:44:25]
a lotta people they are in
[1:44:27]
juvenile court they simply do
[1:44:34]
not like each other and threats
[1:44:35]
are made and we are asked to
[1:44:36]
come in
[1:44:40]
Certainly we have to do that to
[1:44:41]
protect everyone in the
[1:44:46]
courthouse.
[1:44:47]
Also high-profile trials
[1:44:48]
require greater security.
[1:44:48]
Sometimes we have to double
[1:44:55]
screen people going in to make
[1:44:56]
sure everyone is safe and make
[1:44:57]
sure no one is carrying devices
[1:44:58]
that could interfere with court
[1:44:59]
proceedings.
[1:45:00]
That requires extra deputies
[1:45:22]
I want to make sure.
[1:45:24]
Me back this one up
[1:45:27]
Improve courtroom security
[1:45:28]
enables transport for increase
[1:45:32]
deputy safety is something I
[1:45:33]
want to focus on to make sure
[1:45:34]
the board understands the
[1:45:37]
importance of having two
[1:46:04]
deputies owner transports.
[1:46:09]
And establish a dedicated --
[1:46:18]
excuse me.
[1:46:19]
>> I think we are interfering
[1:46:24]
with your progress here, sir.
[1:46:35]
>> slide number 18.
[1:46:35]
>> thank you.
[1:46:38]
Additionally support inventory
[1:46:43]
management procurement and
[1:46:43]
operations are currently one
[1:46:44]
civilian is managing the
[1:46:48]
accounts payable those duties
[1:46:49]
include purchase orders,
[1:46:52]
accounts available, traveler
[1:46:53]
funding itineraries,
[1:46:54]
expeditions, off-duty detail
[1:46:58]
management
[1:46:58]
, supply purchases,
[1:47:05]
issuing equipment
[1:47:06]
, procurement
[1:47:06]
allocations.
[1:47:07]
In addition we helping
[1:47:08]
alleviate the current work load
[1:47:09]
to better support the crucial
[1:47:11]
functions of our office
[1:47:17]
And simply one person has a lot
[1:47:21]
to do and basically with work
[1:47:25]
and needing in seville and help
[1:47:30]
us manage that position.
[1:47:31]
Some requesting one civilian
[1:47:32]
position to assist in managing
[1:47:34]
our request
[1:47:35]
, social media,
[1:47:44]
graphic designs and it.
[1:47:45]
Are service levels performance
[1:47:49]
Is easy our cases increased
[1:47:57]
from fy 24 from 230 to over
[1:47:57]
240.
[1:47:58]
Our security screenings
[1:48:00]
increased to 305,000.
[1:48:01]
Are is in our courtroom
[1:48:04]
facility increased to 4 to
[1:48:07]
7629.
[1:48:08]
Police assist.
[1:48:11]
Now, when I'm talking about
[1:48:12]
most of the hours we have to
[1:48:16]
bring in deputies to assist us
[1:48:19]
in the courtroom increased to
[1:48:21]
47,000 hours
[1:48:27]
Police assist in the hours pick
[1:48:28]
these are the hours we spent
[1:48:30]
assisting police with our
[1:48:33]
temporary detention orders
[1:48:34]
And as I mentioned
[1:48:35]
, our offices
[1:48:40]
want to be committed in the
[1:48:41]
assisting our police because we
[1:48:42]
know they are busy and we want
[1:48:43]
to help them so they don't have
[1:48:51]
to leave their duties.
[1:48:52]
I want to thank you for
[1:48:53]
allowing me to come before you
[1:48:53]
today.
[1:48:53]
I know it has been a lengthy
[1:48:54]
presentation and I apologize
[1:48:59]
for it please ask me any
[1:49:00]
questions you have.
[1:49:01]
>> Chair Jefferson: well, thank
[1:49:02]
you so very much for coming
[1:49:03]
here and giving us a thorough
[1:49:06]
overview of the services and
[1:49:07]
everything you provide the.
[1:49:08]
I really wanted to focus in on
[1:49:13]
something I saw on page 18 and
[1:49:14]
16.
[1:49:14]
You don't have to bring it up.
[1:49:18]
But you mention you provide
[1:49:19]
court order transport to and
[1:49:20]
from correctional and medical
[1:49:33]
facilities
[1:49:35]
And on page 16 you mentioned
[1:49:35]
the mental health hearings.
[1:49:36]
I'm just curious about the roll
[1:49:37]
of the crc.
[1:49:38]
Will sheriff's deputies be
[1:49:38]
responsible for those
[1:49:39]
transports?
[1:49:40]
Because some of them I assume
[1:49:40]
won't be court order but what
[1:49:41]
is your roll working with the
[1:49:41]
crc?
[1:49:42]
>> our roll by definition that
[1:49:47]
when we get the khol's and
[1:49:48]
orders, it's our responsibility
[1:49:48]
by state code to do those
[1:49:50]
transports.
[1:49:51]
>> Chair Jefferson: all
[1:49:51]
right.
[1:49:52]
Supervisor gordy.
[1:49:55]
>> Tom Gordy: thank you MADAM
[1:49:55]
Chair.
[1:49:56]
Just getting an update on the
[1:50:02]
case pertaining to our
[1:50:03]
district.
[1:50:04]
i appreciate the work the
[1:50:04]
sheriffs department has been
[1:50:05]
doing in supporting the court
[1:50:06]
cases that are certainly
[1:50:11]
important to our community.
[1:50:12]
A couple questions.
[1:50:16]
Ith the
[1:50:17]
change in law related to
[1:50:18]
juvenile defendants on the
[1:50:21]
inability to restrain them.
[1:50:24]
In terms of transporting, when
[1:50:25]
I worked with kids in different
[1:50:26]
aspects of my life you could
[1:50:33]
never have one child alone with
[1:50:34]
another adult.
[1:50:34]
Ou always need
[1:50:35]
a second but it always required
[1:50:36]
1/3.
[1:50:37]
How many people do you actually
[1:50:39]
have to have in order to
[1:50:41]
transport and secure in
[1:50:46]
juvenile defendant between
[1:50:47]
while they are in custody of
[1:50:50]
the courthouse.
[1:50:50]
>> we picked them up at the
[1:50:52]
juvenile detention home most of
[1:50:57]
the time we tried to send to
[1:50:57]
deputies to pick them up.
[1:50:58]
If it is only one child we send
[1:51:00]
to deputies and we bring them
[1:51:04]
to the courthouse for the court
[1:51:04]
case.
[1:51:06]
Nd wobbly are there we
[1:51:07]
put them by themselves.
[1:51:10]
We put
[1:51:11]
them in over there juveniles
[1:51:14]
with obvious reasons.
[1:51:15]
One of the things that happened
[1:51:21]
, we find out some history on
[1:51:22]
the juvenile or if the
[1:51:24]
juveniles acting a certain way
[1:51:27]
we cannot by law put restraints
[1:51:29]
on them
[1:51:33]
We have to get a special case
[1:51:36]
before the judge and explain
[1:51:37]
why we have to put restraints
[1:51:37]
on them.
[1:51:40]
And they just make
[1:51:41]
rent our request
[1:51:48]
>> Tom Gordy: in terms of the
[1:51:49]
increase of man hours and
[1:51:52]
number personnel to facilitate
[1:51:56]
this new policy
[1:51:58]
What has been the net impact on
[1:52:01]
your staffing to meet the
[1:52:01]
requirements.
[1:52:03]
We know juvenile crime is not
[1:52:04]
in decline
[1:52:11]
In terms of trying to manage
[1:52:15]
under this new regime, what is
[1:52:16]
that under your staffing
[1:52:19]
requirements?
[1:52:20]
>> it required us to bring in
[1:52:21]
more deputies to the courtroom
[1:52:22]
and we have to pull them from
[1:52:26]
other duties to make sure there
[1:52:27]
is order in the courtroom.
[1:52:28]
Make sure decorum is in the
[1:52:30]
courtroom and make sure no one
[1:52:35]
gets hurt so it is always
[1:52:35]
better to have extra deputies
[1:52:42]
to help out.
[1:52:43]
>> Tom Gordy: when we look at
[1:52:43]
the 12 fte you are looking at,
[1:52:44]
how much of that goes to
[1:52:45]
helping alleviate some of the
[1:52:46]
challenges that have been
[1:52:48]
presented because of this new
[1:52:49]
law.
[1:52:49]
>> I intend about six in the
[1:52:52]
courthouse in six in operation.
[1:52:53]
As I mentioned earlier about
[1:53:02]
the transports we have to do,
[1:53:03]
those deputies would be
[1:53:04]
assigned to assist with our
[1:53:05]
process and transports.
[1:53:06]
And of course all the deputies
[1:53:06]
am asking for is going to help
[1:53:07]
us out with high-profile trials
[1:53:12]
and a lot of the court cases we
[1:53:12]
have now that require extra
[1:53:13]
deputies.
[1:53:17]
Extra screening going into the
[1:53:19]
court rooms.
[1:53:19]
Also, there's a lot of activity
[1:53:23]
in the hallways.
[1:53:24]
they are there on both sides.
[1:53:24]
We want to make sure that
[1:53:27]
everyone is safe.
[1:53:30]
Occasionally we do have
[1:53:31]
disruptions, therefore the
[1:53:32]
defense and the defendants
[1:53:42]
also.
[1:53:43]
>> Tom Gordy: okay.
[1:53:44]
On the uniform we know you are
[1:53:45]
having to upgrade uniforms
[1:53:45]
across your force here can you
[1:53:46]
give us more insight into what
[1:53:47]
is driving that and how that is
[1:53:50]
impacting your budget?
[1:53:50]
>> yes.
[1:53:52]
We are looking at changing the
[1:53:53]
brown uniform to another
[1:53:55]
uniform because the brown
[1:53:59]
uniforms are so hard to get and
[1:54:01]
it is hard to match up the
[1:54:04]
colors but they do an
[1:54:06]
outstanding job helping us
[1:54:07]
, but
[1:54:07]
that person is overwhelmed and
[1:54:11]
because of all of the
[1:54:17]
requirements meeting 1/4
[1:54:17]
master.
[1:54:18]
Keeping the records, issuing
[1:54:19]
the uniforms, replacing
[1:54:22]
uniforms and also handling the
[1:54:23]
other duties such as overtime
[1:54:25]
requirements that we have to
[1:54:26]
process
[1:54:30]
That person is also responsible
[1:54:38]
for that also.
[1:54:39]
>> Tom Gordy: thank you.
[1:54:39]
Appreciate it.
[1:54:40]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[1:54:40]
boddye.
[1:54:41]
>> Kenny Boddye: thank you for
[1:54:42]
coming before us again.
[1:54:43]
Appreciate everything you and
[1:54:44]
your team can do to keep folks
[1:54:45]
safe all throughout the
[1:54:45]
community so I wanted to say
[1:54:46]
that.
[1:54:50]
I wanted to check in
[1:54:50]
with you because
[1:54:50]
you're
[1:54:51]
obviously asking for more
[1:54:58]
positions.
[1:54:59]
How has hiring then?
[1:55:00]
I know you had vacancies
[1:55:00]
previously and have been
[1:55:01]
working on that.
[1:55:03]
Can you talk about that piece?
[1:55:08]
>> filling vacancies is not
[1:55:08]
easy.
[1:55:09]
We are in a competitive process
[1:55:11]
with other chores offices in
[1:55:12]
the police department in the
[1:55:12]
area.
[1:55:17]
We have to be very competitive.
[1:55:18]
I have not lowered my standards
[1:55:19]
as far as recruiting
[1:55:20]
We want to make sure we get the
[1:55:23]
best and the brightest to come
[1:55:26]
to work
[1:55:28]
So it is a challenge
[1:55:32]
Our best recruiters are the
[1:55:32]
people who work at the
[1:55:34]
sheriff's office
[1:55:35]
They tell me they want to be
[1:55:41]
able to helped me because they
[1:55:43]
know what type we want and they
[1:55:44]
actually go out and help us
[1:55:47]
recruit those types of deputies
[1:55:53]
so they want to work with them.
[1:55:54]
>> Kenny Boddye: I always love
[1:55:55]
it when we are trying to coach
[1:55:56]
people from other places as
[1:55:57]
opposed to the other way
[1:55:57]
around.
[1:55:59]
That is great to hear.
[1:56:00]
I know we have had difficulty
[1:56:01]
in the past.
[1:56:02]
We've been trying to help you
[1:56:04]
to get us where we need to be
[1:56:04]
to make you a lot more
[1:56:07]
attractive of an employer
[1:56:08]
I'm glad we have been working
[1:56:10]
on that.
[1:56:11]
Mother question to go in the
[1:56:14]
other direction is on the same
[1:56:15]
program I really appreciate
[1:56:16]
everything you have been doing
[1:56:17]
with that.
[1:56:18]
Obviously literally lifesaving
[1:56:18]
work
[1:56:22]
$15,000 I hate to say it.
[1:56:27]
Is a very small amount of money
[1:56:28]
and that is based on the
[1:56:29]
waitlist he said you have your
[1:56:31]
car you able to project out and
[1:56:33]
tell us how much you MAY need
[1:56:38]
with that knowing we have an
[1:56:38]
aging population in prince
[1:56:40]
william county and chances are
[1:56:43]
the folks that we have
[1:56:46]
You said 90 something folks on
[1:56:49]
it.
[1:56:50]
That is underrepresented the
[1:56:53]
people who need to be on it.
[1:56:56]
Spoke project lifesaver is a
[1:56:56]
program I am proud of.
[1:57:01]
I don't want to say no to a
[1:57:04]
family who put application
[1:57:07]
The 15,000 asking for is simply
[1:57:09]
an amount to help us by
[1:57:13]
additional equipment
[1:57:14]
Bracelets and batteries and
[1:57:17]
other replacement equipment
[1:57:19]
that we need for that program.
[1:57:21]
Hopefully to 15,000 would last
[1:57:23]
a year
[1:57:27]
As I mentioned earlier,
[1:57:28]
sometimes when we go to our
[1:57:29]
families to replace the
[1:57:33]
bracelet, sometimes they get
[1:57:44]
damaged and we want to make
[1:57:46]
sure we have a good bracelet on
[1:57:46]
the families.
[1:57:47]
But one of the things I like
[1:57:48]
about that program is the
[1:57:49]
families like for us to come to
[1:57:49]
the residence and visit with
[1:57:50]
them.
[1:57:50]
The kids absolutely love the
[1:57:51]
deputies that come in.
[1:57:52]
i get good comments from
[1:57:57]
families about how we visit the
[1:57:58]
families and the time we spend
[1:57:58]
with them.
[1:57:59]
So that is important.
[1:57:59]
>> Kenny Boddye: I know you
[1:58:00]
guys are popular with all age
[1:58:02]
groups.
[1:58:03]
I brought my son to an event
[1:58:03]
different I think around JUNE
[1:58:13]
and both of my kids got a lotta
[1:58:14]
pictures with him.
[1:58:15]
>> we start recruiting early.
[1:58:15]
> Kenny Boddye: I don't know
[1:58:16]
if my wife would be okay with
[1:58:17]
you recruiting my son, but I
[1:58:17]
would
[1:58:17]
say.
[1:58:18]
My last question if you would
[1:58:19]
let me
[1:58:22]
In terms of the transportation
[1:58:25]
piece, you narrowed in on why
[1:58:26]
you need the extra folks and
[1:58:30]
what have you and I appreciate
[1:58:34]
the chair bringing up the
[1:58:36]
crisis receiving center because
[1:58:37]
the crisis receiving centers
[1:58:38]
are established only in prince
[1:58:39]
william county
[1:58:40]
, how do you
[1:58:43]
suspect both from our end but
[1:58:46]
also with the crc centers being
[1:58:49]
established closer frankly then
[1:58:50]
where they have been.
[1:58:51]
How do you see that helping you
[1:59:41]
in the long run?
[1:59:53]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[1:59:54]
so very much.
[1:59:55]
I don't see anyone else in the
[1:59:55]
cupid thank you so very much
[1:59:57]
share film and to the people
[1:59:57]
you brought out today for your
[1:59:58]
team.
[1:59:58]
We appreciate you and your
[1:59:59]
work.
[1:59:59]
>> thank you for allowing me to
[2:00:13]
come before you.
[2:00:14]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you met
[2:00:14]
in turn members of the board.
[2:00:15]
again, thank you for the
[2:00:16]
presentation and for your
[2:00:17]
service to the county.
[2:00:17]
I will now ask our clerk jackie
[2:00:52]
smith take over.
[2:00:52]
>> what did I do?
[2:02:03]
Customer
[2:02:04]
service in the commonwealth
[2:02:06]
always.
[2:02:07]
We are professional, we inspire
[2:02:11]
combatants, and our customers
[2:02:12]
needs are met completely.
[2:02:21]
We value our customers
[2:02:23]
, the
[2:02:24]
taxpayer dollar, our people,
[2:02:25]
integrity and teamwork and we
[2:02:26]
always remember that we serve
[2:02:28]
the people of prince william
[2:02:28]
manassas and manassas park.
[2:02:29]
When most people think of the
[2:02:33]
clerk of the court
[2:02:35]
, they think
[2:02:35]
of the person sitting left or
[2:02:36]
right of the judge taking
[2:02:41]
notes, assisting the judge,
[2:02:42]
keeping the record but this is
[2:02:43]
a small fraction with the clerk
[2:02:44]
of the court does.
[2:02:51]
Most notable probably for this
[2:02:52]
type of meeting as we collect
[2:02:52]
our recordation taxes for the
[2:02:53]
county.
[2:02:54]
Of course we create, maintain,
[2:02:59]
and protect the official court
[2:02:59]
record.
[2:03:00]
We also issued concealed
[2:03:01]
handgun permits as you heard
[2:03:02]
from the sheriff earlier and we
[2:03:03]
are again this year on target
[2:03:05]
to produce more concealed
[2:03:05]
handgun permits than any other
[2:03:06]
jurisdiction in the
[2:03:11]
commonwealth.
[2:03:12]
We still do it faster than
[2:03:12]
anyone else and we do it as
[2:03:13]
cheap as you can find in the
[2:03:17]
commonwealth.
[2:03:18]
It's a service to our
[2:03:23]
constituents picked are also
[2:03:24]
under more duties described in
[2:03:25]
the statute but these are the
[2:03:28]
highlights.
[2:03:28]
We work with multiple
[2:03:33]
government agencies
[2:03:35]
Most notably we added fema this
[2:03:35]
year.
[2:03:36]
They contacted us with interest
[2:03:42]
in our self-service kiosk to
[2:03:43]
see how they can implement them
[2:03:44]
in the federal government to
[2:03:45]
benefit their operations.
[2:03:48]
And so4 and annual update.
[2:03:53]
We support safe and secure
[2:03:54]
communities in many initiatives
[2:04:06]
for the first is accessibility.
[2:04:07]
We operate seals on wheels are
[2:04:08]
fully mobile clerks office on
[2:04:09]
saturdays once a month to
[2:04:10]
provide services to prince
[2:04:10]
william county residents as
[2:04:11]
well as the residence of the
[2:04:12]
two cities in a location
[2:04:13]
convenient to them outside of
[2:04:16]
normal business hours
[2:04:17]
, give us
[2:04:18]
a plug our last event is on
[2:04:19]
gainesville district from
[2:04:22]
10:00to 1:00
[2:04:23]
We also host judicial center
[2:04:27]
pop-ups which occur on campus
[2:04:29]
after business hours to allow
[2:04:31]
people who need to get their
[2:04:37]
business done after working a
[2:04:38]
full day have an opportunity to
[2:04:39]
do that without having to take
[2:04:41]
time off of work.
[2:04:42]
As I mentioned earlier we
[2:04:51]
deployed self-service kiosks
[2:04:52]
throughout the county including
[2:04:53]
in this building.
[2:04:54]
Through the kiosks you can
[2:04:54]
interact with our office.
[2:04:55]
You can interact with other
[2:04:56]
courts, pay your taxes and even
[2:05:01]
registered to vote.
[2:05:01]
We deployed kiosks at half of
[2:05:03]
the county libraries and we are
[2:05:04]
deploying another for this
[2:05:04]
year.
[2:05:04]
We will have three more to
[2:05:05]
deploy the year after in this
[2:05:06]
program is completely grand
[2:05:07]
fund and park will some operate
[2:05:16]
litigant self center.
[2:05:17]
The self-help center is aimed
[2:05:18]
at giving people access to the
[2:05:19]
courts whether they can afford
[2:05:29]
an attorney or not.
[2:05:30]
We provide different legal
[2:05:31]
resources as well as exemplars
[2:05:32]
and forms some people take care
[2:05:33]
of the business in the court
[2:05:34]
been possible without the
[2:05:40]
assistance of an attorney.
[2:05:41]
Last year you MAY remember we
[2:05:42]
launched our real property
[2:05:43]
fraud alert service.
[2:05:44]
This is a service we provide
[2:05:55]
for free to our constituents
[2:06:00]
There are some services you can
[2:06:01]
subscribe two for a
[2:06:02]
subscription fee, but we were
[2:06:03]
able to secure grant funding to
[2:06:04]
provide service free of cost
[2:06:05]
per call the resident asked to
[2:06:06]
do is go on the system,
[2:06:07]
register their property in any
[2:06:08]
time someone tries to do any
[2:06:08]
activity in land records on
[2:06:09]
that property the registered
[2:06:17]
owner will be notified.
[2:06:18]
This doesn't prevent deed to
[2:06:19]
fraud but it makes it a lot
[2:06:19]
less harmful and a lot easier
[2:06:20]
to correct if it should happen,
[2:06:27]
which it has not in prince
[2:06:28]
william county.
[2:06:28]
We also provide free gun locks
[2:06:29]
to promote safe and secure
[2:06:30]
communities and we expanded our
[2:06:33]
online services to include
[2:06:34]
online scheduling, online
[2:06:35]
probate of most wills, historic
[2:06:36]
records were all our historic
[2:06:37]
records can be accessed from
[2:06:42]
your home and coming in MAY
[2:06:43]
2026 we will be announcing the
[2:06:44]
artificially fully digitized in
[2:06:54]
a record system.
[2:06:55]
Another issue with
[2:06:56]
accessibility has been the
[2:06:57]
availability of parking at the
[2:06:58]
judicial center.
[2:07:03]
We undertook a lotta talk and
[2:07:04]
research on how to improve this
[2:07:09]
at a low to no cost
[2:07:10]
What we came up with was
[2:07:11]
creating a network of google
[2:07:12]
maps that show all of the
[2:07:13]
available parking areas in and
[2:07:18]
around the judicial center on
[2:07:19]
the judicial center campus we
[2:07:21]
have signage everywhere with qr
[2:07:27]
code so people can scan it with
[2:07:28]
their phone and have their
[2:07:29]
phone direct them to the
[2:07:29]
nearest available parking.
[2:07:33]
We also expanded our language
[2:07:33]
services.
[2:07:34]
We can communicate with
[2:07:35]
customers in more than 50
[2:07:37]
different languages in writing
[2:07:42]
and verbally.
[2:07:43]
That offer an judicial ability
[2:07:51]
has been recognized by virginia
[2:07:52]
lawyers weekly, fox five, D.C.
[2:07:53]
101 and wto p news on the
[2:07:53]
virginia state bar has
[2:08:06]
appointed us to the access to
[2:08:07]
legal services board to share
[2:08:08]
innovations we brought to
[2:08:09]
prince william to help spread
[2:08:10]
them across the commonwealth
[2:08:11]
the communities that would
[2:08:11]
benefit.
[2:08:12]
We also endeavor to provide
[2:08:14]
civic education.
[2:08:22]
We had our first annual fair on
[2:08:23]
the square which is a private
[2:08:24]
public partnership that brought
[2:08:24]
together 60 local businesses
[2:08:25]
and government agencies to
[2:08:26]
share with the community what
[2:08:27]
services were available.
[2:08:35]
Although we didn't plan it this
[2:08:36]
way it was timely with the
[2:08:36]
government shutdown.
[2:08:37]
There were a lot of people in
[2:08:38]
need.
[2:08:38]
It was well attended and we are
[2:08:40]
looking forward to expanding it
[2:08:44]
even further next year.
[2:08:45]
We also were able to host a
[2:08:46]
successful animal supply drive
[2:08:46]
at that event.
[2:08:55]
My office was full of dog food.
[2:08:55]
We participate in the animal
[2:08:56]
town of dumfries expungement
[2:08:57]
clinic along with the
[2:08:58]
constitutional officers.
[2:09:01]
We also printed this
[2:09:01]
participated in clinics in
[2:09:02]
other communities but by far
[2:09:09]
the town expungement clinic is
[2:09:09]
the most popular and I would
[2:09:10]
say it is down to the dumfries
[2:09:11]
town council who does an
[2:09:24]
excellent job running that
[2:09:24]
event.
[2:09:25]
We also host a student art
[2:09:26]
contest every year for law day.
[2:09:26]
The theme is always a
[2:09:27]
constitutional theme and the
[2:09:28]
children are asked to interpret
[2:09:29]
that theme and what it means to
[2:09:29]
them.
[2:09:30]
It is open to prince william
[2:09:30]
county school students,
[2:09:31]
manasses
[2:09:32]
, manassas park and private
[2:09:33]
school students and homeschool
[2:09:39]
students.
[2:09:40]
As you probably realize we are
[2:09:41]
and supervisor gordy district.
[2:09:52]
Supervisor gordy has been so
[2:09:53]
supportive of the art contest.
[2:09:54]
I appreciate you entered a
[2:09:55]
proclamation about the art
[2:09:55]
contest.
[2:09:56]
Supervisor gordy can then read
[2:09:57]
it to the kids but they were
[2:09:57]
very excited.
[2:09:58]
I appreciate your support of
[2:10:01]
that program.
[2:10:02]
We also provide presentations
[2:10:03]
and trainings to the league of
[2:10:05]
voters, girl scouts and the
[2:10:12]
scouts of america.
[2:10:13]
We provide services to the
[2:10:18]
justice like me initiative
[2:10:19]
within the courthouse.
[2:10:25]
Would provide access to
[2:10:26]
different artifacts to
[2:10:27]
homeschool groups to bring
[2:10:27]
history alive for them based on
[2:10:28]
what they are studying at that
[2:10:29]
time.
[2:10:30]
We also do that for different
[2:10:31]
community groups who express
[2:10:32]
interest.
[2:10:34]
We are also focused on
[2:10:38]
potential efficiency
[2:10:39]
improvements.
[2:10:40]
One of the greatest areas of
[2:10:42]
the success we have seen is an
[2:10:43]
employee developments
[2:10:49]
satisfaction and retention.
[2:10:50]
We have developed a three-tier
[2:10:52]
training model for people
[2:10:52]
, your
[2:10:58]
employees we bring into our
[2:10:59]
agency the first is the new
[2:11:00]
employee skills training
[2:11:02]
module.
[2:11:02]
That is a one year module where
[2:11:05]
one month our benchmarks to
[2:11:06]
meet.
[2:11:08]
E use the resources
[2:11:09]
provided the county through pwc
[2:11:12]
university.
[2:11:13]
We also form discussion groups
[2:11:14]
around the different lessons
[2:11:17]
learned to set a bar of
[2:11:17]
professionalism for our
[2:11:21]
employees
[2:11:22]
And also to promote positive
[2:11:24]
mental health.
[2:11:25]
Because we can be put in very
[2:11:27]
difficult situations in the
[2:11:31]
courthouse and we interact with
[2:11:34]
a law of different people every
[2:11:36]
day and it can be difficult
[2:11:36]
sometimes.
[2:11:40]
But knowing our employees have
[2:11:41]
that support within their own
[2:11:44]
agency community.
[2:11:45]
They have their classmates that
[2:11:46]
I've gone through the same
[2:11:47]
training has been very
[2:11:52]
beneficial to help create solid
[2:11:53]
partnerships within our agency
[2:11:54]
and to promote employee
[2:11:54]
retention.
[2:11:59]
After that we have
[2:12:00]
our rebound reality based rules
[2:12:01]
of the workplace module which
[2:12:01]
is sort of the next level.
[2:12:02]
If you show promise for
[2:12:03]
leadership in the office we
[2:12:07]
will have you attend that class
[2:12:08]
It focuses on mental health,
[2:12:10]
how we treat others, how we
[2:12:13]
treat ourselves and after that
[2:12:14]
level we look to the reality
[2:12:20]
-based leadership program which
[2:12:20]
we focus on taking all the
[2:12:22]
tools we learned from the first
[2:12:27]
two levels and taking it to the
[2:12:27]
next level so you can be
[2:12:28]
leadership and management
[2:12:28]
within the office.
[2:12:30]
On the systems are modeled
[2:12:38]
after colin powell's addition
[2:12:39]
program and we have modified it
[2:12:39]
to be specialized to our
[2:12:40]
agency.
[2:12:40]
For fiscal responsibility we do
[2:12:46]
an annual audit of all our
[2:12:47]
expenditures to analyze their
[2:12:48]
necessity.
[2:12:48]
After six years we
[2:12:50]
independently $5 million in
[2:12:52]
grants.
[2:12:53]
We used those grants to
[2:12:57]
completely outfit seals on
[2:12:58]
wheels for the preservation of
[2:12:59]
our shared history and
[2:13:02]
self-funded the renovation of
[2:13:02]
our space in the judicial
[2:13:08]
center.
[2:13:12]
This year we added transparency
[2:13:14]
as an office focus
[2:13:16]
We are primarily focused on
[2:13:23]
better data analysis
[2:13:24]
We are analyzing service
[2:13:25]
trends, community needs,
[2:13:25]
community usage.
[2:13:26]
Again, giving efficiency audits
[2:13:27]
both in process and
[2:13:32]
expenditure.
[2:13:33]
We are looking at national
[2:13:34]
trends that we are seeing in
[2:13:35]
the courts and also evaluating
[2:13:36]
court case volume and how we
[2:13:36]
can best and most efficiently
[2:13:42]
handled that.
[2:13:43]
So for the new mandates, this
[2:13:43]
is an interesting one.
[2:13:48]
The
[2:13:48]
rules of the supreme court of
[2:13:49]
virginia dictate the operation
[2:13:56]
of the circuit court and the
[2:13:57]
supreme court has modified
[2:13:57]
their rules in the past year to
[2:13:58]
allow self represented
[2:14:06]
litigants to e-file the self
[2:14:07]
represented litigants had
[2:14:08]
previously been excluded from
[2:14:09]
e-filing or however, the
[2:14:10]
systems we use which are
[2:14:10]
provided by the supreme court
[2:14:11]
of virginia do not allow for
[2:14:18]
self represented litigants to
[2:14:19]
e-file and indications are or
[2:14:19]
representations are there
[2:14:20]
aren't any plans to include
[2:14:21]
this in the future.
[2:14:23]
So we will talk about the cure
[2:14:24]
for this issue a little later
[2:14:31]
in the presentation.
[2:14:32]
We also have a legislative
[2:14:32]
mandate.
[2:14:33]
Amended automatic ceiling of
[2:14:34]
certain criminal cases from
[2:14:34]
1986 until the present about
[2:14:45]
automatic in quotation marks
[2:14:46]
because the code calls it
[2:14:47]
automatic and it is for the
[2:14:48]
citizen but someone has got to
[2:14:48]
do it.
[2:14:49]
We begin preparation for the
[2:14:50]
significant undertaking in
[2:14:51]
fiscal 23 with the help of
[2:14:52]
smart budgeting by the county
[2:14:55]
to accelerate our final
[2:14:56]
digitization of our historic
[2:14:59]
case files
[2:15:00]
The 100 percent digitization
[2:15:01]
would be complete in MAY at 26
[2:15:11]
which is ahead of schedule a
[2:15:12]
right on time for this mandate
[2:15:13]
her glass to the state
[2:15:13]
compensation board in
[2:15:14]
conjunction with the board of
[2:15:15]
county supervisors funded a
[2:15:16]
full-time equivalent employee
[2:15:16]
who could fill that
[2:15:17]
position
[2:15:24]
almost immediately.
[2:15:25]
She is already training for the
[2:15:26]
project to begin JANUARY 1 but
[2:15:27]
we are ready to hit the ground
[2:15:31]
running when it comes.
[2:15:32]
If there is no disruption of
[2:15:33]
operations I have learned to
[2:15:34]
say that since covid took no
[2:15:34]
additional needs are
[2:15:35]
anticipated to achieve this
[2:15:38]
mandate.
[2:15:41]
So service level trends your
[2:15:49]
current jury pool is continuing
[2:15:50]
to grow which means the amount
[2:15:51]
of postage it costs to send out
[2:15:51]
the jury
[2:15:51]
questionnaires
[2:15:52]
continues to grow.
[2:15:52]
Ou can
[2:15:54]
see from the graph the blue
[2:15:55]
line is the number of jury
[2:15:57]
questionnaires we need to send
[2:15:58]
out each year.
[2:15:58]
During that time period are
[2:16:09]
posted budget has been static
[2:16:10]
there's been no growth in that
[2:16:10]
budget line hook I will share
[2:16:11]
with you how we have been able
[2:16:12]
to make up the shortfall and
[2:16:13]
what we need to do for the
[2:16:14]
future to prevent shortfall.
[2:16:18]
We have seen rapid growth in
[2:16:19]
the area of probate
[2:16:19]
administration.
[2:16:28]
We did anticipate this growth.
[2:16:29]
We have been talking about it a
[2:16:30]
few years.
[2:16:30]
This year is the first year we
[2:16:31]
saw a real spite, which is what
[2:16:37]
I consider a spike.
[2:16:38]
14 percent.
[2:16:39]
It's attributable in my opinion
[2:16:39]
into the aging population, our
[2:16:40]
population growth.
[2:16:41]
We are seeing increased
[2:16:44]
property values an increase
[2:16:44]
asset complexity.
[2:16:45]
We have also seen an increase
[2:16:46]
in popularity of estate
[2:16:47]
planning which is a wonderful
[2:16:48]
thing our people are planning
[2:16:50]
for their future.
[2:16:51]
But it does more frequently
[2:16:52]
require court intervention.
[2:16:58]
We
[2:16:59]
have also seen rapid growth
[2:17:00]
this year in our self
[2:17:01]
represented litigants center
[2:17:01]
and law library.
[2:17:02]
Specifically 30 percent
[2:17:09]
increase in the number of
[2:17:10]
residents served.
[2:17:10]
I attribute this primarily to
[2:17:11]
the fact we expanded the
[2:17:18]
services we provide in the self
[2:17:19]
represented litigants entered a
[2:17:20]
knot just include circuit court
[2:17:21]
but include general district
[2:17:21]
court in the juvenile and
[2:17:31]
relations courts.
[2:17:31]
The clerks of those courts as
[2:17:32]
well as the chief judges of
[2:17:33]
those courts have been very
[2:17:34]
helpful in allowing us to do
[2:17:35]
that and maintain accurate
[2:17:36]
exemplars and resources so we
[2:17:44]
are happy to support that.
[2:17:45]
That does not result in
[2:17:45]
additional cost.
[2:17:46]
Where we are seeing the
[2:17:47]
additional cost need is in the
[2:17:51]
resources not available
[2:17:52]
digitally.
[2:17:53]
there are some legal resources
[2:17:54]
only available in print and
[2:17:58]
their resources used regularly.
[2:17:59]
So because of the nature of the
[2:18:00]
law we are required to update
[2:18:04]
or even replace the volumes
[2:18:05]
every year and these are
[2:18:05]
expensive books.
[2:18:06]
Think back to buying textbooks
[2:18:11]
for school.
[2:18:12]
There expensive and the only
[2:18:14]
increased in cost over the last
[2:18:14]
three years by 20 percent which
[2:18:15]
is attributable not just to the
[2:18:16]
increase in the cost of goods
[2:18:17]
but the rapid increase in the
[2:18:31]
cost of postage.
[2:18:32]
So here is an overview of the
[2:18:33]
budget initiatives.
[2:18:33]
Estore
[2:18:34]
annual access fees revenue.
[2:18:35]
The e-filing system upgrade
[2:18:36]
drupal expansion postage, jury
[2:18:37]
questionnaire return postage
[2:18:37]
self represented law center in
[2:18:40]
law library.
[2:18:54]
We will go into each one.
[2:18:55]
The first is to restore the
[2:18:55]
excess fees revenue to the
[2:18:56]
county.
[2:18:56]
This is the second request.
[2:18:57]
has been included in the 2026
[2:18:58]
county legislative priorities
[2:18:59]
thank you.
[2:19:00]
I appreciate that.
[2:19:00]
Excess fees are those fees
[2:19:12]
collected in excess of her
[2:19:13]
state allotted budget.
[2:19:14]
Those excess fees, two thirds
[2:19:15]
of the fees are supposed to
[2:19:16]
come back to the locality as
[2:19:17]
unrestricted revenue.
[2:19:24]
That revenue goes to the county
[2:19:24]
to you to use as you deem fit.
[2:19:25]
It does not go back to the
[2:19:26]
clerks office, he goes to the
[2:19:27]
county coffers and we will be
[2:19:28]
working in richmond
[2:19:28]
side-by-side this year to try
[2:19:30]
to get that restored.
[2:19:35]
Next we have the e-filing
[2:19:36]
system for self represented
[2:19:39]
litigants
[2:19:40]
As I mentioned, the supreme
[2:19:41]
court has modified the rules to
[2:19:44]
allow e-filing for self
[2:19:45]
represented litigants as well
[2:19:46]
as attorneys
[2:19:49]
We identified a compliant
[2:19:50]
e-filing service currently
[2:20:03]
functioning in some other
[2:20:04]
localities comparable to prince
[2:20:04]
william.
[2:20:05]
It is working effectively.
[2:20:06]
It's about $25,000 but it would
[2:20:07]
be a seamless transition and
[2:20:08]
allow self represented
[2:20:09]
litigants and attorneys to
[2:20:10]
e-file equally.
[2:20:11]
It is also just a better, more
[2:20:11]
streamlined system.
[2:20:13]
It is more
[2:20:16]
recently created.
[2:20:19]
The jury pool expansion postage
[2:20:22]
increase
[2:20:24]
Our jury pool continues to
[2:20:27]
expand.
[2:20:31]
The way the jury process starts
[2:20:32]
is the chief judge orders
[2:20:33]
questionnaires be sent out to
[2:20:34]
residents
[2:20:41]
Those questionnaires ask
[2:20:41]
questions that would inform us
[2:20:42]
if someone is qualified to
[2:20:43]
serve on a jury or not.
[2:20:44]
Are you over 18, are you a
[2:20:47]
citizen of the united states,
[2:20:48]
are you a resident of the 31st
[2:20:48]
judicial circuit.
[2:20:51]
The clerk then collects all the
[2:20:53]
answers to those questionnaires
[2:20:56]
and appoints jury commissioners
[2:21:02]
to look at all the responses
[2:21:03]
and decide is this person
[2:21:04]
qualified or is this person not
[2:21:06]
qualified.
[2:21:07]
If someone says I'm 17 years
[2:21:08]
old they go into the
[2:21:10]
nonqualified pile.
[2:21:11]
All the questionnaires deemed
[2:21:15]
qualified
[2:21:15]
, supervisor stewart
[2:21:16]
knows well.
[2:21:16]
E served as a
[2:21:17]
jury commissioner.
[2:21:20]
All of those people get a
[2:21:20]
summons.
[2:21:21]
For some point in the year to
[2:21:22]
report to the circuit court for
[2:21:28]
duty.
[2:21:28]
That doesn't mean they won't
[2:21:29]
sit on the jury.
[2:21:30]
Doesn't mean they're going to
[2:21:34]
come to the court, but it means
[2:21:35]
they have to be at the rate he
[2:21:35]
should the need arise for
[2:21:35]
their
[2:21:36]
services on a given day.
[2:21:43]
They call us every monday or
[2:21:44]
every tuesday or every
[2:21:45]
wednesday that month or look at
[2:21:46]
our social media preferably.
[2:21:46]
And see do I have to
[2:21:47]
report this
[2:21:47]
day?
[2:21:48]
We are faced with quite a lot
[2:21:51]
of postage given the
[2:21:52]
questionnaires have to be
[2:21:53]
mailed.
[2:21:54]
The jury summons have to be
[2:21:58]
mailed and sometimes there is
[2:22:02]
back-and-forth to make up that
[2:22:03]
shortfall we have I'm looking
[2:22:04]
for $73,000.
[2:22:06]
Again
[2:22:07]
, this budget line is not
[2:22:13]
been increased in over 15 years
[2:22:14]
progressive 15 years because
[2:22:14]
that's the records we have.
[2:22:15]
I don't know the last time it
[2:22:22]
was updated but it is time.
[2:22:23]
Also related to postage is jury
[2:22:28]
questionnaire return postage.
[2:22:29]
Because we had a shortfall in
[2:22:30]
availability of postage sending
[2:22:31]
out the juror questionnaires
[2:22:31]
we had to make up the
[2:22:37]
shortfall.
[2:22:37]
The way we made up the
[2:22:38]
shortfall was we did not
[2:22:39]
provide return postage for our
[2:22:45]
residents to return there jury
[2:22:46]
questionnaires.
[2:22:46]
It did result in some
[2:22:47]
complaints.
[2:22:48]
More complaints than we would
[2:22:50]
have expected.
[2:22:51]
But in order to eliminate the
[2:22:53]
undue burden to the citizens to
[2:22:54]
provide what is almost a dollar
[2:22:58]
now for a stamp and frequently
[2:22:59]
the larger issue is the
[2:23:00]
inconvenience of going to buy a
[2:23:01]
stamp.
[2:23:02]
I'm asking we have a separate
[2:23:04]
line item $26,000 to cover that
[2:23:12]
return postage.
[2:23:13]
It would be business reply
[2:23:13]
mail.
[2:23:14]
We only pay for the postage we
[2:23:15]
use but our citizens would have
[2:23:24]
the option to do that.
[2:23:25]
Finally, our self represented
[2:23:26]
litigants center and law
[2:23:26]
library.
[2:23:26]
As I mentioned, the number
[2:23:27]
customer served increased by 30
[2:23:37]
percent this year.
[2:23:38]
Our services have expanded to
[2:23:39]
include all three levels of
[2:23:39]
court.
[2:23:40]
The cost to update and replace
[2:23:41]
the print materials has
[2:23:41]
increased by 20 percent over
[2:23:42]
the last three years.
[2:23:43]
We are looking to make that on.
[2:23:44]
I should add that this is one
[2:23:45]
of the areas where we are
[2:23:46]
continually evaluating the
[2:23:50]
expenditure because it is my
[2:23:50]
hope the printed materials that
[2:23:52]
are quite costly will
[2:23:53]
eventually be available by
[2:23:54]
electronic subscription
[2:23:57]
So every year we audit the
[2:23:59]
collection to see can we shift
[2:24:00]
more over to the electronic
[2:24:04]
site
[2:24:05]
, but as of right now this
[2:24:09]
is where we stand.
[2:24:10]
Again, that's our summary of
[2:24:14]
the request.
[2:24:14]
Thank you again for having me
[2:24:16]
here to speak with you.
[2:24:17]
Thank you to those of you who
[2:24:19]
visited our office
[2:24:26]
You have almost 65 county
[2:24:26]
employees out in our office and
[2:24:27]
if you haven't stop by I am
[2:24:31]
sure we would be happy to meet
[2:24:31]
with you.
[2:24:32]
And I hope you will join us
[2:24:32]
saturday I gainesville
[2:24:33]
haymarket library from 10:00to
[2:24:39]
1:00for our sales on wheels.
[2:24:39]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[2:24:51]
for coming and thank you for
[2:24:52]
everything your office does.
[2:24:53]
I love seeing when you guys pop
[2:24:54]
up somewhere like montclair
[2:24:55]
library and all the services
[2:24:56]
you are able to provide.
[2:24:56]
Supervisor franklin?
[2:24:57]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:24:58]
thank you.
[2:24:59]
Thank you for the presentation
[2:24:59]
and thank you for the tour I
[2:25:00]
took recently.
[2:25:01]
I got a lot more insight into
[2:25:01]
how everyone is doing their
[2:25:02]
best
[2:25:02]
work together within our
[2:25:03]
court system.
[2:25:06]
A quick question.
[2:25:07]
On slide 16 were mentioned
[2:25:10]
about the number of trials
[2:25:11]
requiring jurors to being
[2:25:11]
summoned.
[2:25:12]
It's a that is in decline
[2:25:17]
Is that for civil or criminal?
[2:25:21]
>> we don't break it out by
[2:25:21]
civil took a mental pick these
[2:25:22]
are statistics that come out
[2:25:25]
our jury division
[2:25:26]
When we have a jury trial on
[2:25:29]
the docket, if it hasn't been
[2:25:30]
resolved prior to the night
[2:25:32]
before the trial we have to
[2:25:33]
summon the jurors to come in
[2:25:40]
here sometimes the case might
[2:25:41]
resolve that morning.
[2:25:42]
Sometimes it might resolve
[2:25:43]
later in the morning, but we
[2:25:44]
have to have the jurors
[2:25:44]
available in case the case goes
[2:25:52]
forward
[2:25:53]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:25:54]
understood.
[2:25:54]
Thank you.
[2:25:55]
MR. Shorter, if someone can
[2:25:56]
remind me with regard to the
[2:25:57]
annual excess fees if that is
[2:26:04]
in our legislative agenda
[2:26:05]
I think it is.
[2:26:06]
> it is included.
[2:26:06]
E work
[2:26:07]
with the clerks office months
[2:26:08]
ago to include the language in
[2:26:08]
the agenda.
[2:26:09]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[2:26:10]
know we talked a little bit
[2:26:13]
about it on obviously the state
[2:26:14]
gets a lot of money when they
[2:26:15]
are not returning it back to
[2:26:15]
the counties.
[2:26:16]
We will do as much as we can to
[2:26:17]
push for that within our
[2:26:21]
delegation so thank you.
[2:26:22]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:26:23]
Supervisor bailey.
[2:26:28]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:26:29]
thank you MADAM Chair.
[2:26:30]
Thank you for your
[2:26:30]
presentation.
[2:26:31]
You and the sheriff did a great
[2:26:32]
job making sure we totally
[2:26:34]
understand what you do and why
[2:26:34]
you need.
[2:26:35]
i really appreciate both
[2:26:35]
presentations.
[2:26:37]
My question to
[2:26:41]
you is you are a very
[2:26:49]
innovative in securing grants
[2:26:49]
Do you foresee, as you go
[2:26:51]
forward, that being interrupted
[2:26:55]
at all, if you will, in the
[2:26:56]
plan you have, the strategic
[2:26:57]
plan you have for your
[2:26:57]
department?
[2:27:02]
>> so we evaluated all the
[2:27:03]
grants we received right now.
[2:27:06]
He recurring grants we have
[2:27:09]
that are virtually zero risk of
[2:27:12]
going away.
[2:27:16]
The restoration grants that we
[2:27:17]
get from the library of
[2:27:17]
virginia
[2:27:24]
we used to take books.
[2:27:25]
We refer to them as our ancient
[2:27:25]
books, but books from the early
[2:27:29]
1700s, even early 1800s that
[2:27:30]
are sort of deteriorating.
[2:27:31]
The library of virginia we can
[2:27:33]
apply to for grants to restore
[2:27:39]
those books pick those grants
[2:27:39]
are?
[2:27:40]
Right now but we don't plan to
[2:27:43]
rely on those grants.
[2:27:44]
Those are nice to have but if
[2:27:54]
we don't have them the book is
[2:27:55]
going to have to wait another
[2:27:56]
year.
[2:27:56]
It's not a question of having a
[2:27:57]
shortfall of the budget.
[2:27:58]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:27:59]
another question is in
[2:28:00]
reference to that, are you
[2:28:01]
looking to digitize any of your
[2:28:01]
documents in the office to make
[2:28:07]
sure they are restored in that
[2:28:07]
regard?
[2:28:08]
That is going to be a cost as
[2:28:10]
well.
[2:28:10]
>> as of MAY we will be 100
[2:28:20]
percent digitized the
[2:28:20]
digitization of the historic
[2:28:21]
books is a little more
[2:28:21]
difficult.
[2:28:22]
When digitization first
[2:28:23]
started, we were doing it by
[2:28:24]
photograph because they were
[2:28:25]
browned, very brittle books.
[2:28:31]
Ut when we have a grant or
[2:28:32]
available funds to send it to
[2:28:33]
an actual restore, they
[2:28:35]
completely diss and symbol the
[2:28:35]
book and they do a high-quality
[2:28:39]
scam of every single page and
[2:28:49]
then bind that into a book.
[2:28:50]
If you didn't see downside to
[2:28:51]
know this was a new book when
[2:28:51]
you opened it up you would
[2:28:53]
thank you were looking at the
[2:28:53]
original.
[2:28:54]
So we do have digital images of
[2:28:55]
everything.
[2:28:55]
They are not the best.
[2:29:02]
We use the grant monies to make
[2:29:03]
them the best and restore the
[2:29:03]
physical book.
[2:29:04]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:29:05]
the last question, if I MAY.
[2:29:06]
For the expungement clinics and
[2:29:07]
they been quite successful
[2:29:08]
since the inception of them
[2:29:13]
starting the program.
[2:29:14]
How do you see that program
[2:29:21]
expanding across the county?
[2:29:22]
>> we have had other elected
[2:29:23]
officials reach out to hold
[2:29:26]
expungement fairs
[2:29:27]
I don't know if it is a
[2:29:33]
question of need but they just
[2:29:33]
haven't been as popular of
[2:29:38]
dumfries.
[2:29:39]
The town of dumfries does a
[2:29:40]
phenomenal job promoting the
[2:29:41]
event, draining the people
[2:29:42]
working the event, and making
[2:29:43]
sure we have the resources
[2:29:43]
to
[2:29:44]
successfully kick off the event
[2:29:59]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:30:00]
thank you MADAM Chair.
[2:30:01]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[2:30:01]
i don't have any other
[2:30:02]
questions or comments and thank
[2:30:03]
you very much for coming here
[2:30:03]
today.
[2:30:04]
I also want to recognize we
[2:30:05]
have our chief public defender
[2:30:06]
tracy here with us as well
[2:30:14]
today.
[2:30:15]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:30:17]
Chair and members of the board.
[2:30:17]
And again, to our clerk jackie
[2:30:18]
smith, thank you for the
[2:30:18]
presentation.
[2:30:19]
The next presentation we have.
[2:30:21]
Really excited about this
[2:30:21]
presentation.
[2:30:22]
Rachel taylor from our office
[2:30:25]
of community safety will come
[2:30:26]
forward and talk about domestic
[2:30:26]
violence fatality review.
[2:30:28]
This is a long-standing
[2:30:28]
opportunity for us.
[2:30:30]
I think we
[2:30:34]
are going to have our deputy
[2:30:35]
county executive kick this
[2:30:39]
presentation off.
[2:30:40]
This was a very good
[2:30:43]
opportunity for the county to
[2:30:48]
have this review happening.
[2:30:49]
Spoke thank you.
[2:30:56]
Deputy county executive.
[2:30:57]
Thank you for the opportunity
[2:30:58]
to share and represents a
[2:30:59]
milestone in our work to build
[2:31:00]
a safer more resilient prince
[2:31:00]
william county.
[2:31:04]
We are proud to launch the
[2:31:05]
domestic violence review team.
[2:31:06]
Multidisciplinary initiative
[2:31:07]
rooted in their mission is
[2:31:10]
office a community safety.
[2:31:11]
Circumference and well-being as
[2:31:22]
a community we use lessons from
[2:31:23]
the fatality review is to spot
[2:31:23]
missed
[2:31:24]
warning signs.
[2:31:29]
Improve service coronation and
[2:31:30]
do more effective intervention
[2:31:31]
for individuals and families at
[2:31:32]
risk.
[2:31:34]
we are putting a process in
[2:31:37]
place to reduce breakdowns,
[2:31:38]
ensuring we learn what leads to
[2:31:39]
better outcomes
[2:31:46]
It is about improving the
[2:31:47]
entire community safety
[2:31:47]
ecosystem.
[2:31:48]
The review team is part of a
[2:31:49]
larger counsel focused on a
[2:31:52]
holistic approach to how we
[2:31:58]
deal with domestic violence.
[2:31:59]
And certainly reflects our
[2:32:00]
offices roll less convenient,
[2:32:09]
connector, and capacity builder
[2:32:09]
across systems.
[2:32:10]
With that it is my
[2:32:10]
pleasure to
[2:32:11]
introduce doctor.
[2:32:11]
[Name] And rachel taylor to
[2:32:12]
provide more detail about the
[2:32:13]
council, the team, and the
[2:32:13]
process.
[2:32:18]
Thank you.
[2:32:19]
>> thank you MADAM Chair and
[2:32:21]
members of the board.
[2:32:22]
I am the director of the office
[2:32:24]
I community safety.
[2:32:32]
As dan reiterated, the domestic
[2:32:33]
-- is part our offices larger
[2:32:33]
effort in creating data
[2:32:38]
informed pathways
[2:32:40]
Over the last year as MS.
[2:32:40]
Taylor will discuss, the data
[2:32:41]
we compiled really proves that
[2:32:42]
there is a need for further
[2:32:43]
development of coordinated
[2:32:49]
response pathways.
[2:32:50]
What we have been working on is
[2:32:50]
the improvement of the
[2:32:51]
ecosystem around prevention and
[2:32:52]
intervention.
[2:32:57]
As well as risk identification.
[2:32:58]
And so it is really just one
[2:32:58]
effort in the revival of our
[2:33:04]
domestic violence counsel which
[2:33:05]
leads as well as our
[2:33:06]
replacement triage work with
[2:33:07]
our agency partners.
[2:33:08]
remote positive MS. Taylor
[2:33:19]
>> thank you did dan alexander
[2:33:20]
and doctor.
[2:33:20]
[Name].
[2:33:21]
I would like to thank the board
[2:33:22]
and MADAM Chair for the
[2:33:23]
opportunity to come and talk to
[2:33:23]
you today.
[2:33:24]
Domestic violence in the states
[2:33:27]
kills three people every day
[2:33:28]
It is also the leading cause of
[2:33:29]
death among pregnant women
[2:33:31]
across the nation
[2:33:32]
Nationally and account for one
[2:33:43]
in every five homicides that is
[2:33:44]
15 to 20 percent parking
[2:33:45]
virginia the picture is a
[2:33:45]
little bit more bleak with
[2:33:46]
about 20 to 25 percent of all
[2:33:47]
homicides been linked to
[2:33:48]
domestic violence can print
[2:33:48]
with them county we find the
[2:33:54]
numbers to be even more serious
[2:33:55]
with an average of 30 percent
[2:33:56]
of all homicides attributed to
[2:33:57]
domestic violence broken 2024
[2:33:58]
that number was 45 percent.
[2:34:00]
Since 2020 ask who operates our
[2:34:02]
local domestic violence hotline
[2:34:04]
, since 2020 days on increase
[2:34:13]
in calls for help 500 percent.
[2:34:14]
At the office a community
[2:34:15]
safety we joined with community
[2:34:16]
partners addressing this
[2:34:17]
critical issue by reviving
[2:34:19]
domestic violence counsel in
[2:34:19]
conducting domestic violence
[2:34:20]
resource mapping, conducting a
[2:34:21]
gap analysis we identified
[2:34:22]
there are scarce resources for
[2:34:23]
victims within our county.
[2:34:26]
In particular concern is the
[2:34:27]
fact only emergency safe house
[2:34:35]
only has five bedrooms for a
[2:34:36]
population of 500,000 people.
[2:34:36]
We one forensic nurse for the
[2:34:37]
entire county that is also at
[2:34:38]
this time unable to serve
[2:34:42]
children so all children in the
[2:34:43]
vast majority of victims have
[2:34:44]
to go to neighboring counties
[2:34:45]
to get forensic exams.
[2:34:46]
The fatality review works is a
[2:35:01]
type of social autopsy for our
[2:35:02]
community.
[2:35:03]
It includes the analysis of
[2:35:04]
local homicides to identify
[2:35:05]
systems gaps, improve agency
[2:35:06]
collaboration, and strengthen
[2:35:07]
prevention efforts to reduce
[2:35:07]
future deaths.
[2:35:08]
Who's at risk in the community
[2:35:09]
are questions we would like to
[2:35:10]
have answered.
[2:35:11]
Want to know what is the
[2:35:11]
information related to
[2:35:12]
characteristics of violence in
[2:35:13]
the relationship of those
[2:35:14]
involved reported the red flags
[2:35:15]
for domestic violence within
[2:35:15]
prince william county what are
[2:35:16]
the resources in our community
[2:35:17]
more importantly, are they
[2:35:17]
working?
[2:35:18]
From these conclusions how does
[2:35:23]
the team prevent future
[2:35:24]
domestic violence fatalities
[2:35:24]
pick the work being done here
[2:35:25]
among our community has been
[2:35:38]
truly inspiring following
[2:35:39]
training provided by the
[2:35:40]
national domestic violence
[2:35:41]
fatality review initiative out
[2:35:42]
of arizona state university, we
[2:35:43]
created an interagency
[2:35:44]
agreement and protocol to
[2:35:45]
hopefully establish the greater
[2:35:46]
principal and county domestic
[2:35:47]
violence fatality review team
[2:35:47]
through this effort included
[2:35:49]
the signature of 16 agencies so
[2:35:49]
far with hopefully more to
[2:35:50]
come.
[2:35:50]
I would like to recognize she
[2:35:51]
public defender office tracy.
[2:35:52]
We have acting director, and
[2:35:59]
adjusted services
[2:36:00]
[Name] And the domestic
[2:36:01]
violence coordinator oksana
[2:36:02]
sure from prince william county
[2:36:03]
police.
[2:36:03]
In addition would like to point
[2:36:04]
out this is indeed the greater
[2:36:05]
prince william county fatality
[2:36:06]
review.
[2:36:07]
We representation signed the
[2:36:08]
principal and county police
[2:36:09]
department as well as manassas
[2:36:09]
city of manassas park with
[2:36:10]
hopefully more to grow.
[2:36:12]
The foundation however is built
[2:36:13]
upon confidentiality.
[2:36:16]
Under code section 32.1-283.3
[2:36:17]
the records are confidential
[2:36:26]
and they are not subject to
[2:36:27]
virginia freedom of information
[2:36:27]
act.
[2:36:27]
Review materials cannot
[2:36:29]
be subpoenaed, requested in
[2:36:29]
discovery were used as evidence
[2:36:30]
in any civil or criminal case
[2:36:31]
pickup would like to note on
[2:36:32]
the cases under review are
[2:36:36]
completely closed.
[2:36:37]
There is no pending litigation,
[2:36:38]
no investigations of civil or
[2:36:39]
criminal matter.
[2:36:39]
Participants cannot be
[2:36:40]
compelled to testify about what
[2:36:41]
occurred during the fatality
[2:36:42]
review or what information was
[2:36:50]
collected and civil immunity
[2:36:51]
applies to team members and
[2:36:52]
anyone providing information
[2:36:53]
unless there is gross
[2:36:53]
negligence or
[2:36:54]
willfulness
[2:36:54]
conduct.
[2:36:55]
And recognize initiative in
[2:36:56]
principle them county, we join
[2:36:57]
20 other teams across the
[2:36:58]
commonwealth, 49 other states
[2:37:01]
in the nation and several other
[2:37:01]
countries that are also
[2:37:02]
conducting these important
[2:37:03]
reviews.
[2:37:03]
we are all working to
[2:37:05]
implement, prevent, implement
[2:37:08]
and build resiliency.
[2:37:09]
So far the committee members
[2:37:10]
and the greater prince william
[2:37:26]
county developed their mission,
[2:37:27]
vision, values, team protocol
[2:37:28]
an interagency agreement.
[2:37:29]
In order to proceed under the
[2:37:30]
protection of the code of
[2:37:30]
virginia we respectfully ask
[2:37:31]
today the prince william county
[2:37:33]
board of supervisors recognizes
[2:37:34]
and supports the creation of
[2:37:35]
the greater prince william
[2:37:35]
domestic violence fatality
[2:37:36]
review team.
[2:37:36]
Thank you.
[2:37:37]
>> Chair Jefferson: think is a
[2:37:38]
very much.
[2:37:39]
Supervisor bailey?
[2:37:42]
>> thank you for your
[2:37:44]
presentation.
[2:37:45]
Thank you for your presentation
[2:37:49]
and elevating the importance of
[2:37:52]
this program.
[2:37:53]
It is something that dan and I
[2:37:54]
talked about when we first came
[2:37:55]
on board
[2:37:58]
Something resonating in our
[2:38:01]
communities
[2:38:02]
Something the percentage of the
[2:38:06]
need is increased since covid
[2:38:07]
so we are way overdue
[2:38:11]
I totally support how we go
[2:38:12]
forward because it is
[2:38:18]
absolutely essential and there
[2:38:18]
are advocates in our community.
[2:38:20]
I know specifically in mind
[2:38:20]
district when they did their
[2:38:24]
annual breast cancer
[2:38:25]
awareness/domestic violence
[2:38:27]
month awareness program that
[2:38:28]
are interested in this
[2:38:29]
endeavor.
[2:38:33]
So thank you for your foresight
[2:38:33]
and again, back to mental
[2:38:38]
health
[2:38:39]
, you will the land and
[2:38:39]
protecting our citizens so I
[2:38:43]
really, really appreciate it.
[2:38:44]
>> thank you.
[2:38:44]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:38:46]
boddye
[2:38:47]
>> Kenny Boddye: thank you dan,
[2:38:48]
doctor.
[2:38:51]
[Name], MS. Taylor for this
[2:38:52]
Long time coming, glad you are
[2:39:01]
able to provide that previous
[2:39:01]
efforts and inject new life
[2:39:02]
into something near and dear to
[2:39:03]
the hearts of everyone on the
[2:39:04]
dais and throughout the
[2:39:04]
community.
[2:39:05]
We know often the percentages
[2:39:11]
on the stats, a law and this
[2:39:12]
happens by folks with closes in
[2:39:13]
proximity and it happens
[2:39:13]
unfortunately when there are
[2:39:14]
warning signs we just don't
[2:39:15]
have enough resources to sense
[2:39:22]
at a time.
[2:39:23]
This really gets at the heart
[2:39:23]
of that.
[2:39:24]
It is my hope that as you
[2:39:25]
continue to build your team,
[2:39:28]
build the work move to identify
[2:39:29]
cases and talk to folks and
[2:39:30]
what have you, they are able to
[2:39:36]
see those warning signs
[2:39:37]
hopefully save the lives and
[2:39:38]
change the trajectory of
[2:39:40]
everyone involved in these
[2:39:41]
situations
[2:39:46]
Obviously I'm going to be
[2:39:48]
supporting this
[2:39:54]
Once you get our support and
[2:39:55]
are able to establish this team
[2:39:57]
would have you what are your
[2:40:00]
immediate next steps and to
[2:40:01]
model I have seen pop up around
[2:40:06]
the region around the country
[2:40:07]
are the family justice centers
[2:40:07]
that have a broader continuum
[2:40:10]
on this and get at the heart
[2:40:11]
similar to what we do in the
[2:40:12]
child advocacy centers abroad
[2:40:13]
in that out to the entire
[2:40:14]
family and the victims we are
[2:40:15]
talking about here.
[2:40:17]
Can you
[2:40:17]
talk about that and with the
[2:40:20]
forward vision is?
[2:40:21]
>> I love what your head is at.
[2:40:30]
Immediate steps
[2:40:31]
We are fortunate to have doctor
[2:40:31]
neil and his team at the
[2:40:32]
national domestic violence
[2:40:33]
fatality review initiative.
[2:40:34]
He literally invented fatality
[2:40:35]
review back in 1990.
[2:40:36]
We have been working with his
[2:40:36]
team to do our training earlier
[2:40:37]
this year like I said.
[2:40:42]
We are also going to be in the
[2:40:43]
back and up conduct our very
[2:40:44]
first review and figure out how
[2:40:48]
to select that case.
[2:40:48]
Into moving ahead as he said
[2:40:49]
there are so many
[2:40:50]
opportunities, family justice
[2:40:53]
center is wonderful.
[2:40:54]
As we develop our data and
[2:40:54]
understand the circumstances a
[2:40:55]
little bit more we will find
[2:40:56]
out what that would need to
[2:40:57]
look like here in prince
[2:40:58]
william.
[2:41:04]
Thank you.
[2:41:05]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:41:06]
franklin.
[2:41:07]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:41:07]
thank you.
[2:41:10]
Thank you for the presentation.
[2:41:11]
I would point out, and you
[2:41:12]
alluded to this.
[2:41:18]
In 2024, particularly as most
[2:41:19]
crimes of prince william county
[2:41:19]
was on the decrease, incidents
[2:41:20]
of domestic violence was
[2:41:21]
actually on the increase.
[2:41:22]
This is incredibly important.
[2:41:24]
i do have a couple of questions
[2:41:28]
Once this is fully set up, are
[2:41:32]
you looking to derive more data
[2:41:33]
from some of these domestic
[2:41:35]
violence cases and then turn
[2:41:37]
them into recommendations for
[2:41:42]
how to handle some of these
[2:41:43]
cases?
[2:41:44]
>> absolutely.
[2:41:45]
Applications are determined
[2:41:50]
upon what we find, but ideally
[2:41:50]
we would be being able to
[2:41:55]
compile regular reports that
[2:41:56]
would to be provided to the
[2:41:57]
board itself, and the community
[2:42:13]
members and agencies
[2:42:20]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:42:21]
okay.
[2:42:22]
There is a data point where you
[2:42:22]
collect all the data and then
[2:42:23]
you develop recommendations
[2:42:23]
from their
[2:42:24]
>> that is correct.
[2:42:25]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:42:26]
how does this relate to the
[2:42:27]
community safety initiative.
[2:42:27]
Is it part of it, under it,
[2:42:28]
working in
[2:42:28]
tandem?
[2:42:29]
>> the community safety
[2:42:30]
initiative, as a goal of a
[2:42:31]
convenient couple together
[2:42:32]
these court and then the
[2:42:33]
community responses.
[2:42:33]
One of the things I will notice
[2:42:34]
there is domestic violence
[2:42:35]
counsel prior to the pandemic
[2:42:36]
but it fell apart.
[2:42:36]
Through the work
[2:42:37]
here with the
[2:42:38]
county what we found is people
[2:42:39]
volunteering their time to come
[2:42:39]
together and really trying to
[2:42:47]
pull this up, however, it is
[2:42:48]
unstable unless there is a
[2:42:48]
particularly clear entity for
[2:42:49]
that.
[2:42:50]
And so here we are able to
[2:42:50]
spearhead that I make sure that
[2:42:51]
there is continuity so that way
[2:42:52]
we don't lose this again and we
[2:42:53]
don't look away from this
[2:42:54]
really important topic in the
[2:42:54]
future.
[2:43:01]
I don't know if we would like
[2:43:01]
more expansion on that?
[2:43:02]
>> briefly, if you think about
[2:43:03]
the connective tissue around
[2:43:04]
what we do it is driven by
[2:43:05]
engagement informed by evidence
[2:43:12]
and ecosystem
[2:43:13]
And so there are a number of
[2:43:14]
areas we identify domestic
[2:43:15]
violence being a big one.
[2:43:16]
We talked about human
[2:43:23]
trafficking a little bit.
[2:43:24]
We are on gangs right now with
[2:43:24]
another member.
[2:43:25]
There are focus areas that
[2:43:26]
allow us in this office is a
[2:43:27]
convenient to reach across
[2:43:27]
systems where we typically
[2:43:28]
haven't to the degree that we
[2:43:29]
can now and drive work along
[2:43:30]
three elements I talked about
[2:43:30]
earlier.
[2:43:35]
This is absolutely an important
[2:43:35]
program piece to the work we
[2:43:36]
are doing broadly in the
[2:43:37]
office.
[2:43:37]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
[2:43:45]
thank you for that.
[2:43:45]
Thank you for the work we are
[2:43:46]
doing.
[2:43:47]
MR. Shorter, maybe we could at
[2:43:47]
some point get an update on the
[2:43:48]
overall community safety
[2:43:49]
initiative to see how the
[2:43:50]
working group is going to to
[2:43:50]
see how things are looking to
[2:43:51]
be rolled out.
[2:43:53]
Thank you.
[2:43:54]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:43:55]
Supervisor vega and then the
[2:43:56]
lease before thinking that
[2:43:57]
entire.
[2:44:01]
My question is about the work
[2:44:01]
distribution.
[2:44:02]
I know that this had been the
[2:44:05]
fight manassas a manassas park.
[2:44:07]
Ticket get off the burden would
[2:44:08]
fall in prince william county,
[2:44:12]
correct in terms of stop and
[2:44:13]
the work that they have to do?
[2:44:20]
>> not necessarily.
[2:44:21]
That objectives moving ahead
[2:44:22]
would determine how who we have
[2:44:23]
is a chair and we would like to
[2:44:24]
seek representation from the
[2:44:31]
greater area.
[2:44:32]
I don't necessarily think that
[2:44:32]
has to be true.
[2:44:33]
I think we can have number step
[2:44:34]
up and participate equally.
[2:44:35]
>> Yesli Vega: that is good.
[2:44:42]
The reason why I ask is I'm
[2:44:43]
trying to identify if this
[2:44:44]
would add an additional
[2:44:44]
financial burden and or
[2:44:45]
additional responsibilities to
[2:44:46]
our county staff and whether it
[2:44:49]
is the clerk of the court or
[2:44:50]
sheriff's office, they service
[2:44:51]
the cities and pay their fair
[2:44:51]
share.
[2:44:52]
I was thinking along those
[2:44:58]
lines but this would require
[2:44:59]
the same type of mou, if that
[2:45:01]
is what we want to call it.
[2:45:02]
I'm happy to hear there would
[2:45:03]
be some type of collaboration
[2:45:04]
and I look forward to seeing
[2:45:04]
how that develops.
[2:45:04]
Thank you.
[2:45:06]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:45:06]
bailey?
[2:45:07]
B6 you MAY have answered this
[2:45:07]
at a different time.
[2:45:13]
There are organizations and
[2:45:14]
subject matter experts.
[2:45:15]
One of the things the community
[2:45:15]
program that dan created was
[2:45:17]
good at is bringing
[2:45:18]
organizations within the
[2:45:20]
community that have been
[2:45:27]
strategically working on this
[2:45:27]
on
[2:45:27]
brady.
[2:45:28]
What does that look like in
[2:45:29]
terms of how you're going to
[2:45:32]
move forward.
[2:45:33]
>> that is also a great
[2:45:33]
question.
[2:45:33]
We are developing the
[2:45:34]
structure.
[2:45:35]
We are working to pull in a
[2:45:39]
variety of different partners
[2:45:40]
I don't know if you wanted to
[2:45:45]
jump in on any aspect of that.
[2:45:46]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I
[2:45:47]
know it won't happen overnight
[2:45:48]
but I want to know is that in
[2:45:48]
the plan?
[2:45:59]
>> you look at the current team
[2:46:00]
members involved on this.
[2:46:01]
I'm going to go off your list
[2:46:02]
for criminal justice services,
[2:46:03]
ax, community services, health
[2:46:04]
districts, social services,
[2:46:05]
homeless services, the police
[2:46:05]
departments we mentioned
[2:46:06]
before.
[2:46:06]
08 argument adult detention
[2:46:07]
center.
[2:46:08]
It's very inclusive in terms of
[2:46:09]
process and how we would
[2:46:19]
involve in this work but we can
[2:46:20]
expand beyond that to other
[2:46:20]
governmental and
[2:46:21]
nongovernmental entities for us
[2:46:22]
to work on this issue and all
[2:46:22]
the other issues.
[2:46:23]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey: I
[2:46:24]
was just thinking the non-for
[2:46:30]
profits.
[2:46:30]
When you mentioned human
[2:46:31]
trafficking, that's a tender
[2:46:32]
spot.
[2:46:32]
But there are not for profits
[2:46:34]
within our community that would
[2:46:34]
be elated that we are starting
[2:46:35]
on this.
[2:46:36]
That is what I was alluding to.
[2:46:40]
Thank you.
[2:46:41]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:46:41]
boddye.
[2:46:42]
>> Kenny Boddye: last couple
[2:46:43]
questions and I appreciate my
[2:46:44]
colleagues stirring
[2:46:44]
more
[2:46:49]
thoughts and questions.
[2:46:49]
The school system.
[2:46:50]
Where does the school system
[2:46:51]
sit in the partnership to the
[2:47:01]
point my colleague made on the
[2:47:01]
team.
[2:47:02]
>> we are still collecting
[2:47:03]
signatures being knowable to
[2:47:04]
formally recognize the team
[2:47:05]
would be a great way to attract
[2:47:05]
new members.
[2:47:06]
Work closely with the schools
[2:47:07]
in a human trafficking task
[2:47:10]
force we operate so hopefully
[2:47:10]
sometime soon.
[2:47:16]
>> Kenny Boddye: appreciate
[2:47:16]
that.
[2:47:17]
Last question we have, it goes
[2:47:18]
back to something supervisor
[2:47:19]
franklin asked is when you are
[2:47:22]
talking about some of the
[2:47:23]
current situation ask as he
[2:47:26]
brought up
[2:47:28]
I assume the answer is yes but
[2:47:29]
also identifying the gaps that
[2:47:31]
we have frankly in being able
[2:47:39]
to address these needs, detect
[2:47:40]
them in the on the left and
[2:47:40]
right of way.
[2:47:41]
Is that part of it?
[2:47:47]
>> that is absolutely correct.
[2:47:48]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[2:47:48]
very much.
[2:47:54]
I don't see any further
[2:47:54]
questions.
[2:47:55]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:48:00]
Chair and members of the board.
[2:48:01]
>> Chair Jefferson: I was
[2:48:02]
getting ready to go through my
[2:48:02]
agenda.
[2:48:07]
This is a resolution
[2:48:08]
I would like to get a motion
[2:48:09]
directness and support the
[2:48:10]
creation of the greater prince
[2:48:13]
william domestic violence
[2:48:13]
fatality review team.
[2:48:14]
>> so moved.
[2:48:15]
>> Vice Chair Andrea Bailey:
[2:48:15]
second.
[2:48:16]
>> Chair Jefferson: any further
[2:48:17]
discussion on this?
[2:48:19]
I want to
[2:48:25]
say quickly if that we need
[2:48:25]
this.
[2:48:26]
I've spoken to a number of
[2:48:26]
police officers who say
[2:48:30]
domestic violence calls are the
[2:48:34]
most dangerous in reading
[2:48:35]
through the staff report and
[2:48:36]
reading through this, domestic
[2:48:41]
violence is the highest cause
[2:48:46]
of death among pregnant women.
[2:48:47]
That is sobering and actually
[2:48:47]
quite scary.
[2:48:48]
Often times people are in
[2:48:49]
relationships and there is a
[2:48:52]
loft of trust built and that is
[2:48:54]
how people fall prey to things
[2:48:55]
It's something I'd be remiss if
[2:49:03]
I didn't say, it doesn't just
[2:49:04]
impact women but also men are
[2:49:05]
victims and that is something
[2:49:06]
we cannot lose sight of.
[2:49:13]
There are men who are victims
[2:49:14]
of domestic violence often
[2:49:15]
times because of social stigma
[2:49:15]
they are afraid to speak up.
[2:49:16]
Thank you for the work you do
[2:49:17]
around this issue.
[2:49:17]
Supervisor angry?
[2:49:18]
> Kenny Boddye: I want to
[2:49:18]
thank you.
[2:49:36]
I know this is a touchy subject
[2:49:37]
There is a lot of work
[2:49:37]
involved.
[2:49:38]
There's a lot of unknowns now.
[2:49:39]
Ask these questions, build your
[2:49:39]
team.
[2:49:40]
I can't wait for you to get
[2:49:41]
back and let us know once you
[2:49:42]
have the package in place and
[2:49:42]
how well it's doing.
[2:49:43]
i know it's going to take time
[2:49:44]
and it's going to be well worth
[2:49:44]
it so thank you for the work
[2:49:48]
you have done thus far.
[2:49:56]
>> vote unanimous.
[2:49:57]
>> MR. Shorter: thank you MADAM
[2:49:57]
Chair.
[2:49:58]
Into the team, thank you very
[2:50:00]
much.
[2:50:01]
This was rachael's first time
[2:50:02]
in front of the board so
[2:50:06]
rachel, great job.
[2:50:07]
So with item 10 feet we are
[2:50:11]
asking for a transfer of 85,000
[2:50:27]
of contingency funds.
[2:50:28]
The planning office is bringing
[2:50:29]
this forward consulting
[2:50:29]
services and I will turn into
[2:50:31]
tonya to answer any questions.
[2:50:32]
Co-director washington to
[2:50:32]
answer questions.
[2:50:33]
>> good afternoon.
[2:50:33]
Onya
[2:50:35]
washington director of the
[2:50:35]
planning office joined today by
[2:50:36]
eric griffiths who is with our
[2:50:37]
cultural resources team and our
[2:50:44]
countywide planning division.
[2:50:44]
We are here to request the
[2:50:45]
board transfer $85,000 for an
[2:50:46]
contingency to the planning
[2:50:50]
office for consultant services
[2:50:50]
to support the
[2:50:51]
reduction on the
[2:50:52]
thurau fair historic overlay
[2:50:54]
district design guidelines.
[2:50:55]
As I am sure you are aware we
[2:50:56]
have an initiative underway to
[2:50:57]
create a new historic district
[2:50:58]
for the thorough fare
[2:51:01]
community.
[2:51:02]
We have a lot of work that has
[2:51:03]
already been taken place
[2:51:04]
already
[2:51:18]
We conducted three community
[2:51:19]
meetings between JUNE 20 24 and
[2:51:20]
SEPTEMBER this year.
[2:51:21]
We have already done a lot of
[2:51:22]
work on the first phase which
[2:51:22]
is producing the historic
[2:51:29]
register, the national historic
[2:51:30]
places and virginia landmarks
[2:51:30]
register nomination.
[2:51:31]
That process is still going
[2:51:32]
through the state review
[2:51:33]
process
[2:51:36]
One big change that took place
[2:51:37]
after one of our community
[2:51:38]
meetings was that community
[2:51:38]
members asked for consideration
[2:51:48]
to expand the boundaries of the
[2:51:48]
area that is being recommended
[2:51:50]
or nominated for the national
[2:51:50]
register in virginia landmarks
[2:51:52]
process and that triggered
[2:51:52]
additional review on the
[2:52:04]
stateside.
[2:52:05]
That is taking longer than what
[2:52:06]
we anticipated.
[2:52:07]
And so we decided in SEPTEMBER
[2:52:07]
to start the work on a second
[2:52:08]
phase to develop the zoning
[2:52:09]
text amendment that would
[2:52:10]
create the historic overlay
[2:52:11]
district.
[2:52:12]
As part of that, to a company
[2:52:21]
that is eta we also need design
[2:52:22]
guidelines that is actually the
[2:52:23]
mechanisms that would help to
[2:52:24]
regulate matters such as
[2:52:24]
architectural changes,
[2:52:25]
archaeological resources and
[2:52:26]
other historic resources within
[2:52:27]
the overlay district once that
[2:52:30]
is established as soon as the
[2:52:32]
board establishes it.
[2:52:36]
Because we are getting started
[2:52:37]
earlier we do need resources
[2:52:48]
during this fiscal year for the
[2:52:49]
design guidelines in order to
[2:52:50]
procure consultant, specialized
[2:52:51]
consultant resources and
[2:52:52]
support to produce that.
[2:53:04]
The goal is when we complete
[2:53:05]
the draft on the zoning text
[2:53:05]
amendment we would bring the
[2:53:06]
design guidelines at the same
[2:53:07]
time so the board can approve
[2:53:08]
both at the same time.
[2:53:09]
So happy to answer any
[2:53:10]
questions if you have any.
[2:53:10]
Thank you.
[2:53:11]
>> Chair Jefferson: first time
[2:53:12]
supervisor franklin, vega, then
[2:53:12]
boddye.
[2:53:13]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[2:53:14]
know we put some money toward
[2:53:15]
creating the interactive park I
[2:53:15]
guess so to speak.
[2:53:20]
Is that separate from what we
[2:53:20]
are looking to do now?
[2:53:21]
>> yes.
[2:53:26]
I'm not entirely sure are not
[2:53:27]
familiar with what you
[2:53:27]
referring to.
[2:53:28]
And you provide more details?
[2:53:28]
Okay.
[2:53:30]
Yes.
[2:53:38]
It is a separate project.
[2:53:39]
>> are encrypted, evidence
[2:53:39]
resource
[2:53:39]
specialist with the
[2:53:40]
planning office.
[2:53:46]
So the original thoroughfare
[2:53:47]
initiative included both the
[2:53:50]
interpretive park and historic
[2:53:57]
overlay district, but they were
[2:53:58]
parceled off into separate
[2:53:58]
agencies.
[2:53:59]
The planning office is handling
[2:54:00]
the historic overlay district
[2:54:00]
and parks and recreation
[2:54:02]
historic is doing the
[2:54:07]
historical park aspect part of
[2:54:12]
that project.
[2:54:13]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[2:54:14]
Supervisor vega?
[2:54:24]
>> Yesli Vega: for
[2:54:25]
clarification purposes I thank
[2:54:26]
you might have answered my
[2:54:26]
question.
[2:54:28]
We need to spend this amount on
[2:54:29]
consultants for design
[2:54:29]
guidelines?
[2:54:29]
>> yes.
[2:54:32]
>> Yesli Vega: do we anticipate
[2:54:33]
the $85,000 will be enough?
[2:54:34]
>> that is what we are
[2:54:35]
requesting is the budget so if
[2:54:37]
we get those funds that is what
[2:54:38]
we will use.
[2:54:38]
>> Yesli Vega: thank you.
[2:54:39]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:54:39]
boddye.
[2:54:40]
>> Kenny Boddye: laissez
[2:54:49]
question, or a common.
[2:54:50]
MS. Washington, I appreciate
[2:54:51]
your thought process having
[2:54:51]
things run concurrent frankly
[2:54:52]
because sometimes we are
[2:54:53]
waiting for things to be
[2:54:54]
subsequently we end up spending
[2:54:56]
more time frankly.
[2:54:57]
This journey for a thorough
[2:54:57]
fare has become a long time.
[2:55:00]
appreciate the fact you are
[2:55:00]
thinking about the design
[2:55:02]
guidelines
[2:55:04]
Having this come to us
[2:55:04]
concurrently.
[2:55:10]
At the state
[2:55:11]
level it works itself out for
[2:55:12]
the historical part of it in
[2:55:17]
the register you there, you are
[2:55:18]
starting to work through the
[2:55:19]
process of having our land use
[2:55:26]
policies conformed to that.
[2:55:27]
That leads me to my question.
[2:55:28]
One of the things I have seen,
[2:55:29]
sometimes and I imagine it
[2:55:29]
won't be the case here.
[2:55:31]
Overlays that we adopt
[2:55:32]
sometimes contradict underlying
[2:55:33]
zoning of what is already
[2:55:45]
there.
[2:55:45]
The context of the conference
[2:55:48]
and zoning ordinance, a lot of
[2:55:48]
moving pieces are going on at
[2:55:49]
the same time.
[2:55:50]
Can you speak of how this will
[2:55:51]
fit into that and knowing the
[2:55:53]
encumbrance of
[2:56:05]
with the historic overlay
[2:56:07]
district will not change the
[2:56:08]
underlying zoning for the areas
[2:56:10]
that will be considered and
[2:56:11]
included in the boundaries for
[2:56:13]
the parties historical district
[2:56:15]
will not run into that issues
[2:56:17]
that it is something we shared
[2:56:18]
with the community the other
[2:56:20]
piece I wanted to note with
[2:56:22]
regard to the national register
[2:56:23]
and estate process that
[2:56:25]
boundary and the boundary that
[2:56:27]
will be used for the county's
[2:56:28]
historical district they MAY
[2:56:30]
not necessarily be the same
[2:56:32]
they do not have to be the
[2:56:32]
same.
[2:56:34]
Additionally with regards to
[2:56:34]
the
[2:56:35]
national register process
[2:56:39]
which again, that ultimately
[2:56:40]
the state has to sign off on
[2:56:42]
that then it goes to the
[2:56:44]
national park service. For
[2:56:46]
that ultimate approval, the
[2:56:47]
state uses a specific criteria
[2:56:52]
in terms of what types of
[2:56:54]
properties are eligible to be
[2:56:55]
considered for those
[2:56:59]
nominations. Eric it's an
[2:57:01]
expert on that but that is
[2:57:02]
something we've also discussed
[2:57:04]
with the community that the
[2:57:06]
national register boundary MAY
[2:57:08]
be different than what the
[2:57:09]
counties boundary it could be
[2:57:11]
the same for the county's
[2:57:13]
boundary does not necessarily
[2:57:15]
have to follow the national
[2:57:16]
register entries. I just wanted
[2:57:18]
to provide that clarification
[2:57:20]
but to get to your first
[2:57:22]
question, the overlay district
[2:57:23]
essentially will sit on top of
[2:57:25]
the existing zoning for that
[2:57:25]
community.
[2:57:27]
>> Kenny Boddye: to follow up I
[2:57:28]
would imagine the overlay will
[2:57:30]
follow the counties boundary if
[2:57:32]
they are different they will
[2:57:34]
not follow the state right.
[2:57:40]
>> we could if we wanted to
[2:57:41]
with the community support
[2:57:43]
follow the national register
[2:57:44]
boundary but again because
[2:57:46]
these very specific criteria
[2:57:47]
their heavy other areas that
[2:57:49]
for the counties boundaries for
[2:57:52]
the actual historic overlay
[2:57:53]
district it MAY be different it
[2:57:55]
MAY be expanded what have you
[2:57:57]
sell during the last community
[2:57:59]
meeting in SEPTEMBER there was
[2:58:00]
something that we raised.
[2:58:02]
We said are there areas that we
[2:58:10]
should consider that maybe
[2:58:12]
outside of the boundaries that
[2:58:14]
have been identified for the
[2:58:15]
national register combination
[2:58:17]
that is still undergoing
[2:58:19]
review. That is something we
[2:58:20]
will be working out with the
[2:58:20]
community.
[2:58:22]
>> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[2:58:24]
that my final point is thank
[2:58:26]
you ultimately in order was
[2:58:28]
community interest from this I
[2:58:30]
appreciate how you been feeling
[2:58:31]
using it because ultimately we
[2:58:33]
don't have we MAY not adopt the
[2:58:40]
same exact boundaries as the
[2:58:42]
state and national but knowing
[2:58:44]
that we MAY be more inclusive
[2:58:46]
frankly than they are and be
[2:58:48]
very clear with the committee
[2:58:49]
on that process that we don't
[2:58:51]
naturally have to handshake we
[2:58:53]
MAY end up having to recognize
[2:58:55]
and put the overlay over a
[2:58:56]
larger area versus a smaller.
[2:58:58]
>> Tanya Washington: that's
[2:58:59]
correct.
[2:59:01]
>> Chair Jefferson: supervisor
[2:59:02]
stewart.
[2:59:02]
>> George Stewart:
[2:59:04]
hello MS. Washington good
[2:59:06]
afternoon just a simple
[2:59:06]
question.
[2:59:08]
The necessity to spend $85,000
[2:59:10]
on a consultant for the long
[2:59:11]
range planning commission is
[2:59:13]
there not a skill set in house
[2:59:14]
to do this yourself to develop
[2:59:16]
the design guidelines.
[2:59:18]
>> Tanya Washington: it's a
[2:59:19]
combination of specialized
[2:59:21]
skills and staff capacity.
[2:59:23]
This product is being managed
[2:59:24]
by within our countywide
[2:59:25]
planning division and
[2:59:27]
specifically within our
[2:59:28]
cultural resources team gave a
[2:59:37]
very packed work plan.
[2:59:38]
Additionally with regards to
[2:59:40]
design guidelines it goes into
[2:59:42]
much greater level of
[2:59:43]
specificity such as
[2:59:45]
architectural design and other
[2:59:46]
matters, that is really more of
[2:59:48]
a specialized skill set.
[2:59:49]
In order for us to produce
[2:59:51]
these design guidelines in a
[2:59:53]
timely fashion, along with the
[2:59:55]
zta it would take us longer if
[2:59:56]
our own staff had to we do have
[2:59:58]
some architectural design
[3:00:00]
backgrounds within the team,
[3:00:02]
but they have a lot of other
[3:00:03]
projects they are managing such
[3:00:05]
as the conference of zoning
[3:00:07]
ordinance update the
[3:00:08]
sustainability resilient zta
[3:00:10]
the historic overlay district
[3:00:12]
on the conference of plan
[3:00:14]
amendment's it would be a major
[3:00:15]
limitation on our ability to
[3:00:17]
continue to advance those
[3:00:18]
projects if we had to pull to
[3:00:20]
staff that MAY have that skill
[3:00:22]
set to work on this as it's
[3:00:23]
much more efficient for us to
[3:00:25]
hire a consultant to do this
[3:00:27]
type of work regularly and get
[3:00:28]
this done in a timely fashion
[3:00:30]
so we can focus on creating
[3:00:32]
zoning text amendment which the
[3:00:33]
same team has to produce.
[3:00:38]
>> George Stewart: thank you.
[3:00:40]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:00:42]
so very much we don't have any
[3:00:43]
more questions really
[3:00:44]
appreciate this MS. Washington
[3:00:45]
thank you.
[3:00:47]
last speaker supervisor stewart
[3:00:49]
went to see if you want to move
[3:00:52]
this forward.
[3:00:52]
>> George Stewart:
[3:00:53]
so moved.
[3:00:56]
>> second
[3:00:58]
>> Chair Jefferson: that was
[3:00:58]
simultaneous.
[3:01:01]
I thought it was supervisor
[3:01:04]
franklin fred I said franklin
[3:01:05]
franklin fred.
[3:01:07]
[Laughter] Any further
[3:01:08]
discussion.
[3:01:12]
On this agenda item.
[3:01:13]
Let's go ahead and take our
[3:01:23]
vote.
[3:01:26]
Vote unanimous.
[3:01:34]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you.
[3:01:36]
>> thank you very much MADAM
[3:01:37]
Chair and to director
[3:01:39]
washington and eric thank you
[3:01:40]
for the presentation MADAM
[3:01:42]
Chair members of the board with
[3:01:43]
1030 manassas park is asked
[3:01:45]
that the county review
[3:01:47]
remaining requirements
[3:01:49]
associated with 1989 voluntary
[3:01:51]
settlement agreement that is we
[3:01:53]
are asking for the board's
[3:01:54]
consideration
[3:01:55]
>> Chair Jefferson: all
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right
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thank you anybody have any
[3:01:58]
questions?
[3:02:02]
Any additional information?
[3:02:06]
Is that you supervisor vega
[3:02:08]
>> Yesli Vega: I will just move
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it forward it's in the coles
[3:02:11]
district.
[3:02:12]
>> Kenny Boddye: second.
[3:02:14]
>> Chair Jefferson: any further
[3:02:15]
discussion?
[3:02:16]
Et me call for
[3:02:20]
the vote.
[3:02:24]
>> vote unanimous.
[3:02:25]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:02:28]
thank you. No we have a
[3:02:31]
supervisors time normally I
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break out calendar changes I
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don't know if anybody has any
[3:02:42]
questions on 11 e or 11 f if
[3:02:44]
not I will go ahead and just do
[3:02:46]
everything in one motion.
[3:02:48]
Hold on I guess supervisor
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franklin.
[3:02:50]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin: we
[3:02:52]
can talk about item 11 f we are
[3:03:01]
canceling the meeting
[3:03:04]
>> Chair Jefferson: and adding
[3:03:06]
a one on. The applicant
[3:03:07]
scheduled for tuesday, DECEMBER
[3:03:09]
2 has pulled their obligation
[3:03:11]
there is nothing else lined up
[3:03:12]
for that day.
[3:03:14]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin: I
[3:03:15]
just want to make sure for the
[3:03:17]
planning department I guess I
[3:03:18]
would imagine we have cases
[3:03:20]
ready to go I just want to make
[3:03:21]
sure if there are other cases
[3:03:24]
we can get them out of the way.
[3:03:26]
>> Tanya Washington: we already
[3:03:28]
have cases scheduled through
[3:03:29]
the end of this year including
[3:03:31]
the DECEMBER 16 meeting it is
[3:03:33]
really over timing of there's a
[3:03:34]
lot of things that have to get
[3:03:36]
lined up we have to get them by
[3:03:37]
a certain timeframe in order to
[3:03:39]
then produce the staff report
[3:03:40]
and get it in the queue for
[3:03:42]
specific board dates.
[3:03:44]
This is really more of a matter
[3:03:47]
of his health the church is
[3:03:49]
described we do so have other
[3:03:50]
cases for DECEMBER 16 we have
[3:03:53]
several cases coming.
[3:03:55]
>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
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thank you for that MS.
[3:03:58]
Washington because I talked to
[3:04:00]
her about this I just want to
[3:04:01]
make sure we are moving cases
[3:04:03]
along we've had several
[3:04:04]
meetings or a couple of
[3:04:06]
canceled for 7 pm I just want
[3:04:07]
to make sure we're getting
[3:04:09]
through the land use cases.
[3:04:11]
>> Tanya Washington: we are
[3:04:16]
very much getting through the
[3:04:18]
land use cases just today the
[3:04:20]
board approved for cases during
[3:04:22]
a consolidated agenda the
[3:04:25]
majority of the cases the board
[3:04:26]
takes action on is the
[3:04:26]
consolidated agenda it's only
[3:04:29]
in the afternoon is a small
[3:04:31]
number of cases that are the
[3:04:31]
evening cases we definitely
[3:04:33]
have cases already looking into
[3:04:35]
dates for next year we will
[3:04:37]
definitely make progress to
[3:04:43]
continue to keep cases just one
[3:04:45]
less thing you should looking
[3:04:47]
at the planning commission's
[3:04:48]
agenda which is even more
[3:04:50]
filled. Always roll over to the
[3:04:51]
board we are definitely getting
[3:04:52]
through our cases.
[3:04:54]
>> Chair Jefferson: I just want
[3:04:56]
to piggyback on that I swear I
[3:04:58]
am not asking supervisor
[3:04:59]
franklin to see the thing about
[3:05:01]
these questions myself I want
[3:05:04]
to know it does original and 7b
[3:05:05]
we were doing and off cycle
[3:05:07]
budget request we want to make
[3:05:09]
sure that planning team has the
[3:05:10]
resources that they need to
[3:05:11]
continue to move these cases.
[3:05:13]
Again the consolidated land-use
[3:05:15]
agenda we do get through quite
[3:05:17]
a few things the cases in the
[3:05:18]
evening they can be more
[3:05:19]
contentious I know in DECEMBER
[3:05:21]
we will have at least one
[3:05:23]
late-night because of a case.
[3:05:25]
I really do appreciate planning
[3:05:29]
and it gets awfully will have
[3:05:31]
more stuff we would have to
[3:05:32]
cancel some in evening sessions
[3:05:34]
moving forward.
[3:05:35]
Anyone else want to speak?
[3:05:42]
Albright I heard that.
[3:05:45]
Didn't need a microphone thank
[3:05:46]
you so very much. I would like
[3:05:47]
to go ahead and ask for a
[3:05:49]
motion for 11 a-11 f.
[3:05:50]
>> so moved.
[3:05:54]
>> second
[3:05:56]
>> Chair Jefferson: any
[3:05:58]
additional comments let's go
[3:06:04]
ahead and take the vote.
[3:06:10]
>> vote unanimous.
[3:06:11]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:06:13]
very much now we will go around
[3:06:15]
the deus I will actually start
[3:06:17]
with our newest supervisor
[3:06:19]
supervisor stewart anything you
[3:06:20]
would like to do for
[3:06:22]
supervisors time.
[3:06:22]
>> George Stewart: yes.
[3:06:23]
I have a card trick.
[3:06:24]
[Laughter].
[3:06:25]
His past
[3:06:28]
saturday, OCTOBER 25, the
[3:06:35]
gainesville district had held a
[3:06:37]
bulk dumpster day there was no
[3:06:39]
siding by the trashing code.
[3:06:40]
In our office parking lot.
[3:06:43]
The following results from the
[3:06:45]
gainesville district dumpster
[3:06:48]
day we collected 5080 pounds or
[3:06:53]
2.55 tons of trash and 2160
[3:07:05]
pounds or 1.608 tons of metal a
[3:07:07]
total of 3.63 tons of discarded
[3:07:09]
household items and metal were
[3:07:10]
collected from the community.
[3:07:12]
Also I want to announce we will
[3:07:14]
be playing a lot of mariah
[3:07:15]
carey's christmas album there
[3:07:17]
is a holiday party at the
[3:07:19]
gainesville district office.
[3:07:21]
We will have an open house on
[3:07:22]
friday we will have an open
[3:07:24]
house on friday, DECEMBER 12.
[3:07:28]
From 5 pm-8 pm be there or be
[3:07:34]
square.
[3:07:35]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:07:37]
that was short and simple.
[3:07:40]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[3:07:41]
thank you MADAM Chair good
[3:07:43]
evening everyone. OCTOBER 29 I
[3:07:44]
was my staff and I participated
[3:07:49]
in the 2025 salute the armed
[3:07:51]
forces with oliver north who
[3:07:58]
was the wonderful guest speaker
[3:07:59]
we are grateful for his service
[3:08:01]
he is a decorated marine and
[3:08:02]
thank you to the chamber for
[3:08:11]
the event. If then on NOVEMBER
[3:08:13]
7 had the opportunity of
[3:08:14]
cutting the cake with the
[3:08:16]
marine corps again thank you
[3:08:17]
col. Colegate for inviting me
[3:08:19]
and to be able to be in the
[3:08:20]
presence of the oldest marine
[3:08:21]
sgt.
[3:08:22]
Jim wescott who is 104 years
[3:08:24]
young yes and the youngest
[3:08:25]
marine private joseph tele age
[3:08:27]
19 it was an exciting day wendy
[3:08:29]
but the cake was good. NOVEMBER
[3:08:31]
11-NOVEMBER 8-11th I persuaded
[3:08:35]
in the annual virginia
[3:08:36]
association of counties
[3:08:38]
conference with my colleagues
[3:08:39]
in bath county we had a great
[3:08:43]
time I want to say
[3:08:44]
congratulations to our new
[3:08:47]
chair supervisor victor angry
[3:08:48]
happy man thank you so much for
[3:08:52]
serving in that capacity.
[3:08:53]
On the eighth I attended my
[3:08:54]
staff attended the annual
[3:09:01]
anniversary gala for.
[3:09:03]
[Listing names] Or to thank
[3:09:05]
them for the information I was
[3:09:06]
not able to attend myself
[3:09:07]
because I was at.
[3:09:09]
[Listing names] My chief of
[3:09:10]
staff presented a proclamation
[3:09:13]
to them for their dedication
[3:09:15]
innovation and community impact
[3:09:16]
prince william county and
[3:09:18]
manassas county to serve the
[3:09:20]
development disabled they are
[3:09:21]
great at it on the 12th I was
[3:09:23]
able to participate in a
[3:09:24]
ceremony with one of our
[3:09:30]
citizens dora mohammed who
[3:09:32]
allowed me to principate in a
[3:09:33]
doctoral study department
[3:09:35]
outreach strategy program that
[3:09:38]
talked about sustainability and
[3:09:39]
interfaith engagement in local
[3:09:40]
government it was very
[3:09:42]
exciting. MADAM Chair thank you
[3:09:44]
for being there with us and
[3:09:46]
congratulations to DR. Dora
[3:09:47]
mohammed my body my friend.
[3:09:49]
NOVEMBER 13, I was so proud the
[3:09:51]
economic develop at department
[3:09:53]
had their annual make your mark
[3:09:55]
award ceremony and is a
[3:10:01]
celebration to christina when
[3:10:02]
and her staff you actually rock
[3:10:04]
it was an exceptional program I
[3:10:06]
was really grateful that you
[3:10:08]
asked me to be one of the guest
[3:10:10]
speakers there at the program
[3:10:12]
on NOVEMBER 14 my staff
[3:10:13]
attended the abc risk academy
[3:10:15]
42 graduation congratulations
[3:10:22]
to the strong students that
[3:10:24]
were able to finish the program
[3:10:25]
and to feel good about
[3:10:27]
themselves and the things that
[3:10:29]
they do 25 graduates from
[3:10:30]
prince william county academy.
[3:10:34]
We are very proud of that.
[3:10:39]
Yesterday NOVEMBER 17, we had
[3:10:41]
our potomac district town hall
[3:10:42]
would like to send my sincere
[3:10:44]
thanks to and appreciation to
[3:10:46]
the economic development
[3:10:47]
committee team the planning
[3:10:49]
team transportation team and
[3:10:52]
prince william county water.
[3:10:54]
They were exceptional rib 70
[3:10:59]
guests there they all said that
[3:11:00]
they garnered a lot of
[3:11:02]
information from them so thank
[3:11:03]
you so much for coming to the
[3:11:05]
district and making sure that
[3:11:07]
people are aware and educated
[3:11:08]
of what's going on in the
[3:11:11]
district. Upcoming events
[3:11:12]
NOVEMBER 20, we look forward to
[3:11:14]
having the opportunity to
[3:11:16]
present the military veterans
[3:11:18]
and public safety council and
[3:11:20]
women's leadership conference.
[3:11:21]
I will be participating in
[3:11:24]
that.
[3:11:26]
On the 22nd, 3's polar express
[3:11:28]
holiday parade in dumfries
[3:11:31]
bring your santa claus hat and
[3:11:32]
come and principate because it
[3:11:34]
will start at 9 am on the 22nd
[3:11:37]
it's a saturday in dumfries.
[3:11:40]
I just want to thank region
[3:11:50]
eight for reelecting me to the
[3:11:52]
virginia association of
[3:11:53]
counties board again. I wanted
[3:11:55]
to continue in serving for
[3:11:57]
prince william county and as
[3:11:58]
the chair of health and human
[3:12:00]
resources that's all have until
[3:12:01]
then happy thanks giving.
[3:12:03]
I have 45 seconds.
[3:12:04]
I'm also delighted to serve as
[3:12:06]
the vice chair northern
[3:12:09]
virginia and the rc preterm
[3:12:11]
25/26 that is excelling as well
[3:12:13]
that's all have really MADAM
[3:12:14]
Chair thank you so much.
[3:12:16]
Chair Jefferson: all right
[3:12:19]
thank you so much supervisor
[3:12:20]
boddye.
[3:12:22]
>> Kenny Boddye: thank you
[3:12:23]
MADAM Chair I will go in
[3:12:25]
reverse order of events first
[3:12:27]
want to thank everyone who came
[3:12:28]
out last night to occoquan
[3:12:29]
elementary for old bridge road
[3:12:32]
123 old bridge rd.
[3:12:33]
Public information meeting
[3:12:35]
really big kudos to the
[3:12:37]
transportation staff powell and
[3:12:39]
his team that cannot do support
[3:12:41]
we got a lot of good feedback
[3:12:45]
on some two very important
[3:12:47]
intersections on the old bridge
[3:12:49]
road corridor really glad that
[3:12:50]
so many folks cannot and have
[3:12:52]
some really good feedback and
[3:12:54]
conversation for us as we
[3:12:55]
continue to look at ways to
[3:12:57]
alleviate traffic and increase
[3:12:58]
safety in pedestrian
[3:13:00]
connectivity and them one of
[3:13:03]
the most important corridors in
[3:13:04]
the occoquan district. Also got
[3:13:06]
a chance to sit in on the joint
[3:13:07]
cog metro board meeting
[3:13:10]
yesterday both boards did
[3:13:12]
indeed adopt the dmv moves
[3:13:14]
initiative which does not touch
[3:13:16]
us as much as it touches the
[3:13:18]
inner core but it does set up a
[3:13:19]
scheme to hopefully stabilize
[3:13:21]
metro and also continue talking
[3:13:23]
about regional transit
[3:13:24]
hopefully there will be some
[3:13:26]
fruits of that effort that will
[3:13:28]
hopefully touch bre and be able
[3:13:29]
to establish some more stable
[3:13:33]
libel and frequent transit all
[3:13:35]
the way down here in prince
[3:13:37]
william county doses those in
[3:13:39]
other jurisdictions. Also had
[3:13:49]
the opportunity to pass friday
[3:13:51]
to be part of the swearing-in
[3:13:53]
ceremony for our new colleague
[3:13:54]
supervisor stuart it was really
[3:13:57]
great to meet his family I
[3:13:57]
should've brought my
[3:13:58]
four-year-old I didn't realize
[3:14:01]
you were going to bring your
[3:14:03]
four-year-olds. We have to
[3:14:04]
rectify that at some point I
[3:14:06]
was really happy to see that
[3:14:07]
historic moment for you I
[3:14:09]
wanted to celebrate you in that
[3:14:11]
regard. Also friday in the
[3:14:13]
morning I had a chance to go to
[3:14:15]
alongside my colleagues to the
[3:14:17]
ferc housing work session which
[3:14:19]
it was really productive it is
[3:14:23]
part of a new initiative to set
[3:14:23]
aside and create a strategic
[3:14:25]
plan for the northern virginia
[3:14:27]
regional commission on an issue
[3:14:29]
that I know is near and dear to
[3:14:31]
a lot of our hearts housing now
[3:14:32]
in the rc can step up and help
[3:14:34]
play more regional role in
[3:14:35]
helping all of the northern
[3:14:37]
virginia jurisdictions tackle
[3:14:39]
and find good policy and
[3:14:40]
messaging around housing that
[3:14:43]
was really great opportunity as
[3:14:43]
well.
[3:14:45]
Finally in terms of events i
[3:14:46]
think that is almost dead.
[3:14:48]
The last thing I will say on
[3:14:50]
events as supervisor bailey
[3:14:52]
said this our last meeting
[3:14:53]
before the thanksgiving holiday
[3:14:55]
I want to wish everybody a
[3:14:56]
great thanksgiving last thing I
[3:14:59]
will say on DECEMBER 2 when we
[3:15:00]
come back we will be looking at
[3:15:09]
the affordable dwelling unit
[3:15:11]
before the housing trust fund
[3:15:13]
staff put a lot of work into
[3:15:14]
that I know the met with
[3:15:16]
offices over the past month or
[3:15:18]
so because we did adopt
[3:15:19]
students back during the summer
[3:15:21]
I know we are near the finish
[3:15:25]
line on that.
[3:15:27]
I will be sending an email to
[3:15:29]
my colleagues shortly people
[3:15:30]
talk about some findings my
[3:15:32]
staff and I found recently in
[3:15:33]
regards to that and some
[3:15:35]
conversations we've had with
[3:15:36]
liza johnson and jones docket
[3:15:38]
about brief conversations with
[3:15:40]
ken executive as well so we are
[3:15:42]
almost there there are couple
[3:15:43]
of tweaks I would like to
[3:15:45]
consider before we adapt before
[3:15:47]
the housing trust fund policy
[3:15:48]
guidelines one of which is
[3:15:50]
loudoun county back in JUNE
[3:15:51]
adopted I should say revised
[3:15:53]
and reformed the policy to
[3:15:55]
develop more streamlined and
[3:15:56]
more friendly to getting awards
[3:15:58]
out faster frankly lot easier
[3:16:00]
to understand from applicants
[3:16:03]
and also this idea that some
[3:16:04]
other localities in the
[3:16:06]
commonwealth allow for the
[3:16:08]
process of actually reporting
[3:16:10]
company being administrative
[3:16:11]
process versus going through
[3:16:13]
the board again not proposing
[3:16:15]
anything for tonight but want
[3:16:17]
to give my colleagues heads up
[3:16:19]
about that will send a pretty
[3:16:20]
verbose everybody is used about
[3:16:22]
email for me here shortly I
[3:16:23]
want to put that on everyone's
[3:16:23]
radar
[3:16:25]
before I sent it out thank
[3:16:26]
you MADAM Chair.
[3:16:28]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[3:16:29]
so very much I will save the
[3:16:31]
best for last I will go over to
[3:16:32]
supervisor gordy.
[3:16:34]
>> Tom Gordy: that was
[3:16:35]
insulting.
[3:16:36]
[Laughter] Scored
[3:16:37]
the rest of
[3:16:38]
you are second best to last
[3:16:38]
spring.
[3:16:43]
>> Tom Gordy: [Laughter]
[3:16:44]
Chopped liver.
[3:16:51]
There we go.
[3:16:52]
Quite a few things going on I
[3:16:54]
attended the prince william
[3:16:56]
chambers salute the armed
[3:16:57]
forces really appreciated col.
[3:16:58]
North's comments did a
[3:17:00]
fantastic job talking about our
[3:17:02]
veterans and service members
[3:17:03]
and their families and their
[3:17:05]
service and sacrifice on behalf
[3:17:07]
of our nation.
[3:17:09]
It was really great event and
[3:17:10]
congratulations to the chamber
[3:17:11]
for that event.
[3:17:12]
On the
[3:17:13]
fifth on 5 NOVEMBER.
[3:17:22]
[Unclear audio] The knoxville
[3:17:24]
horn baker lines this can be
[3:17:25]
something that we will be
[3:17:27]
talking more about in a couple
[3:17:31]
of weeks as we look at these
[3:17:33]
lines do cross lot of county
[3:17:34]
property we need to have a
[3:17:35]
conversation about that.
[3:17:37]
On NOVEMBER 8 I attended the
[3:17:40]
american legion post 14 veteran
[3:17:42]
appreciation luncheon it was a
[3:17:43]
great day to learn about
[3:17:46]
program they are raising funds
[3:17:53]
for to build veterans homes to
[3:17:55]
meet the veteran homeless
[3:17:56]
issues on their property in
[3:18:05]
manassas.
[3:18:06]
great effort they have got
[3:18:08]
there. Really appreciate the
[3:18:10]
invite to participate in that
[3:18:12]
luncheon. On 9 NOVEMBER, my
[3:18:14]
church, oakdale baptist church
[3:18:16]
celebrated its hundred 65th
[3:18:17]
anniversary.
[3:18:18]
It was great to for that
[3:18:20]
homecoming and to continue to
[3:18:21]
see the community of faith
[3:18:23]
continue to remain strong.
[3:18:34]
On 10 NOVEMBER first of all
[3:18:35]
happy birthday brains 250,
[3:18:37]
there you go. That day was
[3:18:38]
honored to join a lot of
[3:18:43]
veterans at t clay woods
[3:18:45]
elementary school veterans day
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celebration and parade they do
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a great job in celebrating our
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veterans and bring out the
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veterans from the knoxville
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bristol committee also tended
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to make your mark event on the
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13th a great evening lot of
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great brentsville company
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recognized that night whether
[3:19:01]
they were one or whether they
[3:19:05]
were in the final running.
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Really congratulation all of
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the community businesses that
[3:19:15]
are certainly making a
[3:19:17]
difference for prince william
[3:19:18]
county. This past saturday I
[3:19:20]
was joined by chair jefferson
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and supervisor vega at the pump
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track drain ribbon-cutting
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really appreciate the work of
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parks foundation in helping to
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raise the funds get that to
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fruition I tell you to watch
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three-year-old kids on a
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bicycle riding up and down
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these pump trucks it's amazing.
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It was more amazing watching
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the old guys do it.
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Congratulations to the
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community sorry serving as a
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tourist destination as we have
[3:19:47]
people coming from outside the
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county to participate.
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mr. Shorter was there as well
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thank you MR. Schlueter coming
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out as well.
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Ouple of items
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on DECEMBER 8 we will be having
[3:19:57]
a listening session with chair
[3:19:58]
jefferson.
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Regarding the
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[Listing names] Will take place
[3:20:09]
from 630 from 6:30 pm to 8 pm
[3:20:11]
at the knoxville firehouse in
[3:20:13]
knoxville we want to invite the
[3:20:14]
community to come out and share
[3:20:16]
their perspectives amount want
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to wish everybody a happy thing
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skipping.
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>> Margaret Angela Franklin:
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thank you.
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As mentioned by several of my
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colleagues I also attended the
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[Listing names] Conference also
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just want to say
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congratulations to our new
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PRESIDENT Supervisor victor
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angry those not familiar with.
[3:20:38]
[Listing names] Incredibly
[3:20:39]
important group basically
[3:20:41]
leading on behalf of all local
[3:20:43]
elected officials for the
[3:20:44]
entire commonwealth to the
[3:20:47]
general assembly it's a big job
[3:20:48]
obviously you have this board a
[3:20:50]
bus and looking forward to
[3:20:52]
bridging some gaps with the
[3:20:55]
general assembly looking
[3:20:57]
forward to supporting you
[3:20:59]
however I can also want to
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congratulate supervisor kathy
[3:21:03]
smith from fairfax county who
[3:21:04]
is the new second vice
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PRESIDENT Of congratulations
[3:21:07]
all of us are going to be able
[3:21:09]
to work really well together.
[3:21:11]
Also on the 12 hosted a
[3:21:13]
community meeting with several
[3:21:17]
communities in the foundation
[3:21:18]
of soil management program for
[3:21:20]
them to ask questions to give
[3:21:24]
an update on where things stand
[3:21:26]
so thank you to county staff
[3:21:27]
who was able to be there to
[3:21:29]
help answer some of those
[3:21:31]
questions. On the 13th I also
[3:21:32]
attended the make your mark
[3:21:34]
event hosted by economic
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development committee great
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event also just want to thank
[3:21:40]
carlos castro a total
[3:21:41]
supermarket cooperates to
[3:21:44]
stores in woodbridge on winning
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one of the wards very proud of
[3:21:48]
all of our woodbridge
[3:21:49]
businesses. Also just want to
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point out on the 15th, this
[3:21:52]
past weekend I hosted two
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cleanups with keep prince
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william beautiful on separate
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structures of route 11 on the
[3:22:00]
northern end and one on the
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southern and I would do thank
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keep prince william beautiful
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two helped organize and all the
[3:22:09]
volunteers who came out for
[3:22:09]
that.
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Also I want to thank our local
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chapter of omega psi phi
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fraternity for their annual
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scholarship banquet we were
[3:22:17]
also joined by former defense
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secretary lloyd alston who
[3:22:22]
shared some remarks that was a
[3:22:24]
great event I just want to
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thank the omega for the
[3:22:26]
incredible work to do here
[3:22:28]
locally.
[3:22:29]
Lastly in terms of recent
[3:22:33]
events I was able to be joined
[3:22:35]
by supervisor angry last night
[3:22:37]
for the gen. Assembly's
[3:22:39]
appropriations committee annual
[3:22:41]
retreat which was held here in
[3:22:42]
prince william county.
[3:22:43]
It was great to meet other
[3:22:45]
members of the committee to
[3:22:51]
talk about casually what some
[3:22:53]
of our priorities are with the
[3:22:55]
general assembly is looking to
[3:22:56]
do potentially, the next
[3:23:02]
session.
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I just want to thank the
[3:23:05]
delegation and also other
[3:23:07]
members of the preparations
[3:23:09]
committee for having their
[3:23:10]
retreat here in town for
[3:23:12]
upcoming events very quickly on
[3:23:13]
the 21st, and a stone bridge
[3:23:15]
will be participating once
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again validate treat lighting
[3:23:19]
at stonebridge towncenter the
[3:23:21]
holiday artesian market and
[3:23:22]
activities will start at 5 pm,
[3:23:24]
the tree lighting will be at 7
[3:23:26]
pm so feel free to come and
[3:23:28]
join and on DECEMBER 12, I will
[3:23:30]
be hosting the annual senior
[3:23:31]
holiday luncheon at the
[3:23:36]
woodbridge senior center I look
[3:23:38]
forward to seeing chris shorter
[3:23:40]
and liza johnson and whoever
[3:23:41]
else on the county staff was to
[3:23:43]
come and dance with our seniors
[3:23:45]
that will be fun allegedly
[3:23:47]
later that day I am going to
[3:23:48]
gainesville holiday party I
[3:23:50]
will tell you supervisor weir
[3:23:51]
and I had a thing where we had
[3:23:53]
the bourbon and eggnog you have
[3:23:55]
just a little bit of shoes to
[3:23:57]
fill their we always had a good
[3:23:59]
time looking forward to joining
[3:24:00]
you there welcome to the team.
[3:24:02]
>> Chair Jefferson: do you want
[3:24:04]
to say that out loud.
[3:24:06]
All) What is your event I want
[3:24:07]
to write that down so I can
[3:24:09]
compare holiday parties for
[3:24:11]
>> Yesli Vega: I thought we
[3:24:13]
were saving the best for last.
[3:24:15]
[Laughter] Undertaking let's
[3:24:17]
dive into it further I want to
[3:24:18]
thank our sponsors who were
[3:24:20]
able to donate 100 coats for
[3:24:22]
our annual coles district
[3:24:37]
co-chair this year I'm not sure
[3:24:38]
if it's government shut down
[3:24:40]
what's going on there's a lot
[3:24:42]
of need in our community if you
[3:24:44]
have generous donors that are
[3:24:45]
constantly asking during this
[3:24:48]
time year what they do to help
[3:24:49]
I would consider talking about
[3:24:51]
the various ways they can help
[3:24:53]
the community. Thank you to the
[3:24:54]
generous donors in every big
[3:24:56]
amount we certainly know that
[3:24:57]
those courts will be a blessing
[3:24:59]
for children they will not be
[3:25:01]
cold this winter season. On
[3:25:02]
NOVEMBER 5 I attended the
[3:25:04]
dineen transmission line open
[3:25:06]
house I attended the press
[3:25:07]
conference I also attended the
[3:25:09]
formal open house session I
[3:25:11]
wanted to hear for myself and
[3:25:13]
listen and talk to some of my
[3:25:14]
colleagues on the dais we
[3:25:15]
expressed that mutual
[3:25:16]
agreement
[3:25:18]
that we believe those
[3:25:20]
transmission plans should go
[3:25:21]
underground ethical position we
[3:25:23]
will continue to have I want to
[3:25:25]
thank all of the members of the
[3:25:26]
committee that showed up and it
[3:25:29]
to the organizers of the press
[3:25:30]
conference leading up to the
[3:25:33]
open house on 11/9 I attended.
[3:25:34]
[Listing names] It was a long
[3:25:36]
essay long because I was in
[3:25:38]
such good company that I didn't
[3:25:40]
want it to end up missing that
[3:25:41]
sarcastically I mean it. We had
[3:25:43]
a great time prince william
[3:25:45]
county was represented well I
[3:25:46]
want to give a special shout
[3:25:48]
out to nikki always goes above
[3:25:50]
and beyond ensuring we are
[3:25:52]
taken care of and to glenn who
[3:25:53]
does a great job at advocating
[3:25:55]
for priorities here in prince
[3:25:57]
william county and of course
[3:25:59]
the county attorney who keeps
[3:25:59]
us in line.
[3:26:01]
The second set of eyes that we
[3:26:03]
have with county executive.
[3:26:05]
Thank you for joining us at.
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[Listing names] On the 12th, i
[3:26:09]
attended the veterans docket
[3:26:11]
ceremony with supervisor angry
[3:26:13]
and supervisor franklin at our
[3:26:14]
last board meeting I talked
[3:26:16]
about the drug treatment court
[3:26:18]
and how incredible it is to be
[3:26:20]
able to put his faith in these
[3:26:22]
folks achieving such a great
[3:26:24]
accomplishment I will put a
[3:26:25]
plug-in if you have not gone to
[3:26:28]
the veterans docket ceremony I
[3:26:29]
recommend that you do because
[3:26:31]
it is really good to see that
[3:26:33]
the work that this program does
[3:26:34]
and how folks are able to
[3:26:36]
overcome and continue to become
[3:26:38]
productive members of society.
[3:26:39]
N the 13th, I had my early
[3:26:41]
thanks giving lunch with folks
[3:26:43]
at the manassas health and
[3:26:44]
rehab center for bill who want
[3:26:46]
to volunteer or have kids high
[3:26:48]
schoolers thought to help out
[3:26:49]
we have a lot of need at
[3:26:51]
nursing homes and facilities of
[3:26:53]
the sort you don't have loved
[3:26:55]
ones during the holiday season
[3:26:56]
if you have some spare time I
[3:26:58]
would recommend that you go by
[3:27:00]
and sit down and have a cuppa
[3:27:01]
coffee lunch with these folks
[3:27:03]
who would be very blessed to
[3:27:05]
have some company I will say
[3:27:07]
that joanne is such a blessing
[3:27:09]
she's the one that runs this
[3:27:10]
program she says that typically
[3:27:12]
during NOVEMBER and DECEMBER
[3:27:14]
she does not know what to do
[3:27:15]
with the amount of people that
[3:27:17]
want to come by. She says there
[3:27:19]
are other months throughout the
[3:27:21]
year where we are lonely and
[3:27:22]
nobody comes. You have 12
[3:27:24]
months in the year so if you
[3:27:25]
have the time or have somebody
[3:27:31]
that is interested I recommend
[3:27:33]
these organizations. Two
[3:27:34]
attended MR. Mark event will
[3:27:36]
take it in a different
[3:27:38]
direction christina your
[3:27:39]
rockstar thank you for putting
[3:27:40]
such a great event on also what
[3:27:42]
I like trevor I did not know he
[3:27:44]
was quite the comedian in my
[3:27:46]
opinion he was the highlight of
[3:27:46]
the night.
[3:27:48]
Of course everybody had won an
[3:27:49]
award but he was great thank
[3:27:51]
you to victoria from cakes by
[3:27:53]
happy eatery was one of my
[3:27:54]
guests along with lisa the
[3:27:55]
owner of east coast wings and
[3:27:55]
grill.
[3:27:57]
I attended the pump truck
[3:27:59]
opening along with supervisor
[3:28:01]
gordy and chair jefferson I
[3:28:02]
think this a great addition to
[3:28:05]
our parks and recreation
[3:28:06]
portfolio when the staff is
[3:28:08]
part of anytime we get to it he
[3:28:10]
becomes even happier on the
[3:28:16]
20th I will be partaking as a
[3:28:18]
panelist on the own your voice
[3:28:19]
public speaking and leadership
[3:28:21]
presence this is hosted by the
[3:28:23]
realtors association of prince
[3:28:25]
william county and the women's
[3:28:27]
council of realtors I want to
[3:28:28]
end by quickly inviting
[3:28:30]
everybody will not name you I
[3:28:31]
will say expect to see every
[3:28:33]
member of the board attend the
[3:28:35]
coles district annual district
[3:28:36]
christmas tree lighting
[3:28:38]
ceremony I did have most of the
[3:28:40]
board attend last year I think
[3:28:41]
it was a good time. I hope to
[3:28:43]
see everybody this year it will
[3:28:45]
take place on DECEMBER 6 at the
[3:28:47]
lucasville school at 5 pm
[3:28:48]
lastly, it's been a rough year
[3:28:50]
for a lot of us I know you're
[3:28:52]
on the dais we had some very
[3:28:59]
challenging times in our
[3:29:01]
personal lives I just want to
[3:29:03]
say that not just in the month
[3:29:04]
of NOVEMBER or around at the
[3:29:06]
time of things event but
[3:29:08]
throughout the whole year I'm
[3:29:09]
thankful for the love of my
[3:29:11]
family the support of my
[3:29:13]
friends a lot of you sit on the
[3:29:15]
status despite our political
[3:29:16]
differences I just want to let
[3:29:18]
the people prince william
[3:29:20]
county no there is a lot of
[3:29:21]
love lot of respect goes on
[3:29:23]
behind the scenes that we MAY
[3:29:24]
go at it from time to time on
[3:29:26]
the dais but at the end of the
[3:29:28]
day we are there for each other
[3:29:30]
it is not just words that are
[3:29:32]
said it is a true reflection of
[3:29:33]
love that has been demonstrated
[3:29:35]
to me personally by your
[3:29:36]
actions I just want to say I'm
[3:29:38]
very thankful for you all and
[3:29:40]
wish everybody a happy thanks
[3:29:42]
giving hope to see you all at
[3:29:43]
the christmas tree lighting
[3:29:45]
ceremony school and thank you
[3:29:47]
so very much that means all is
[3:29:48]
forgiven with what I said
[3:29:50]
earlier the best for last.
[3:29:52]
Sometimes somebody is to be
[3:29:54]
valedictorian for today today
[3:29:55]
it is victor angry holland is
[3:29:56]
out of order.
[3:29:58]
>> there is something I just
[3:29:59]
learned. We have an
[3:30:00]
announcement from the
[3:30:02]
governor's office that we
[3:30:04]
received $1.1 million for the
[3:30:06]
that goes to the american
[3:30:07]
battlefield trust for the
[3:30:09]
acquisition of hundred 52.2
[3:30:10]
acres at bristow station
[3:30:12]
battlefield to further expand
[3:30:14]
the bristol battlefield and so
[3:30:15]
that was announced today I just
[3:30:17]
want to get that out to the
[3:30:18]
community thank the governor
[3:30:20]
for including the bristol
[3:30:22]
battlefield entities grants
[3:30:23]
over $15 million was given away
[3:30:25]
we got 1.1 million of it thank
[3:30:26]
you.
[3:30:28]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[3:30:29]
[Applause].
[3:30:31]
Let's stop trying to steal
[3:30:36]
victor's shine
[3:30:39]
[Laughter] Ability first of all
[3:30:41]
I do look forward to doing the
[3:30:42]
town hall with you tom
[3:30:44]
supervisor gordy on DECEMBER 8
[3:30:46]
because I think there a lot of
[3:30:48]
important discussions to be
[3:30:48]
had.
[3:30:49]
I really want to say that
[3:30:51]
prince william county is making
[3:30:52]
moves.
[3:30:53]
Congratulations to supervisor
[3:30:57]
bailey for been named to chair
[3:30:58]
at brc. I didn't really want
[3:31:00]
uplift supervisor victor angry
[3:31:05]
supervisor franklin was saying
[3:31:07]
[Listing names] Virginia
[3:31:09]
association of counties plays a
[3:31:11]
very important role within our
[3:31:11]
commonwealth.
[3:31:13]
With being the voice of the
[3:31:15]
counties legislating for our
[3:31:16]
combined advocating for our
[3:31:18]
combined legislative agenda so
[3:31:20]
the fact that supervisor angry
[3:31:21]
has been named the PRESIDENT
[3:31:29]
Really is truly a big deal.
[3:31:31]
The last person there have been
[3:31:32]
three other people from prince
[3:31:34]
william county who were named
[3:31:36]
the chair last one was john
[3:31:37]
jenkins. That was back in 1997.
[3:31:39]
We don't want to know I don't
[3:31:41]
want to know how old anyone
[3:31:42]
was.
[3:31:49]
Stop that.
[3:31:50]
We are cowboys fans that is
[3:31:52]
okay. I really want uplift that
[3:31:53]
that is such a big deal it is
[3:31:57]
been decades since prince
[3:31:59]
william county somebody from
[3:32:00]
prince william county has been
[3:32:02]
a chair so thank you for taking
[3:32:04]
on this tremendous
[3:32:06]
responsibility this amazing
[3:32:06]
opportunity.
[3:32:08]
We are looking forward to great
[3:32:10]
things from you this is really
[3:32:12]
significant as you've heard
[3:32:14]
from a number of people saying
[3:32:15]
it I want to use my time to
[3:32:17]
really uplift you victor
[3:32:18]
because I'm so very proud of
[3:32:20]
you I'm so very proud of the
[3:32:22]
work you've done you are the
[3:32:24]
most senior member of this
[3:32:25]
board which that's not saying
[3:32:27]
much but that's okay.
[3:32:28]
[Laughter] You are the most
[3:32:30]
senior member of this board
[3:32:32]
looking forward to your
[3:32:33]
leadership on.
[3:32:34]
[Listing names] With that I
[3:32:36]
will turn the floor over to you
[3:32:37]
for your update.
[3:32:39]
>> Victor Angry: no comments.
[3:32:39]
Laughter].
[3:32:40]
Let me open this up it's kind
[3:32:41]
of a lot.
[3:32:43]
Salute to the armed
[3:32:45]
forces great event you heard a
[3:32:50]
lot about that you heard a lot
[3:32:51]
about that.
[3:32:52]
[Listing names] Thank you
[3:32:54]
everybody that was there
[3:32:57]
veterans docket I got to tell
[3:32:58]
you I will say what supervisor
[3:33:00]
vega said if you have not
[3:33:01]
attended one please attend
[3:33:03]
those we must always ensure we
[3:33:05]
keep our dockets in prince
[3:33:06]
william county are drug docket
[3:33:08]
in our veterans docket and the
[3:33:09]
other docket they want to
[3:33:11]
create we will first that it
[3:33:13]
make sure is good I think you
[3:33:15]
dockets are missing the MR.
[3:33:17]
Mark event christina wang and
[3:33:19]
your team outstanding I just
[3:33:21]
want to recognize my businesses
[3:33:23]
businesses throughout the
[3:33:26]
county are very important rj
[3:33:28]
sinkler with prince william as
[3:33:29]
consider this man was homegrown
[3:33:31]
he was a kid it's getting there
[3:33:33]
he bought the building is
[3:33:34]
teaching kids now remember we
[3:33:36]
got the deal with the
[3:33:38]
washington capitals during the
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following piece he is doing big
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things robert arrington came to
[3:33:43]
the county out of dc he was a
[3:33:44]
lawyer and his wife they opened
[3:33:46]
the afc urgent care on many
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feel right bundle wendy's I
[3:33:49]
forget the grocery store in
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that area.
[3:33:51]
[Listing names] School of rock
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he has a school of rock just
[3:33:54]
like the movie where he is
[3:33:55]
teaching kids and adults and
[3:33:59]
make go over there and want to
[3:34:01]
play for base with this because
[3:34:03]
he just opened his business
[3:34:09]
great for is sam holman with
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rock creek properties purchased
[3:34:13]
for shopping centers here in
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bell city and started literally
[3:34:18]
remodeling refurbishing them he
[3:34:19]
did the concrete the asphalt
[3:34:22]
the painting of the buildings
[3:34:23]
it is been great I just want to
[3:34:25]
thank all of them for what they
[3:34:26]
have done.
[3:34:27]
Then the jail basic academy
[3:34:29]
graduation had the privilege of
[3:34:31]
being the speaker over there to
[3:34:33]
the graduating class which went
[3:34:35]
very well. Thank everybody that
[3:34:36]
was in the house that was
[3:34:37]
really good.
[3:34:39]
We've had a few anyway thank
[3:34:40]
everybody for being there for
[3:34:42]
that welcome to the family to
[3:34:44]
our latest 25 employees are
[3:34:53]
not. I do want to thank omega
[3:34:55]
psi phi fraternity inc. They
[3:34:57]
honored me with being a citizen
[3:34:59]
of the earth there. That was
[3:35:00]
really big deal big event
[3:35:02]
didn't know that was happening
[3:35:04]
I was very honored to receive
[3:35:05]
that award from them.
[3:35:08]
I just wanted to mention that
[3:35:09]
congratulations to pastor
[3:35:11]
sandra james they will do her
[3:35:13]
best royal investiture if you
[3:35:14]
all for saturday she is now
[3:35:18]
running first mountain zion
[3:35:20]
church congratulations to her
[3:35:22]
I'm sure we will hear more from
[3:35:23]
her in attending the church.
[3:35:25]
Want to just mention and see
[3:35:26]
where we go with this I gave
[3:35:28]
the director for the arts
[3:35:30]
council to look at dissolving.
[3:35:31]
You also saw that memo I don't
[3:35:34]
know if this is what it needed
[3:35:40]
the next steps for providing
[3:35:42]
directly to staff to draft a
[3:35:43]
resolution to dissolve it
[3:35:45]
within a date they got in here
[3:35:47]
basically before 30 JUNE 2026
[3:35:49]
I'd like to start the year off
[3:35:51]
without being dissolved I don't
[3:35:52]
know if you need or you need to
[3:35:57]
or we need to come back to that
[3:35:58]
I know the last meeting is
[3:36:00]
DECEMBER 16 I don't know if we
[3:36:02]
can make that decision now I
[3:36:03]
want to give you a date because
[3:36:05]
we have not given you a date if
[3:36:06]
that is something to discuss
[3:36:08]
with this board you want to
[3:36:10]
talk about that now or hold it
[3:36:12]
until DECEMBER 16?
[3:36:13]
I don't know if it is a
[3:36:14]
directive I'm just trying to
[3:36:20]
give a date on that.
[3:36:21]
>> it would need to be a
[3:36:22]
directive. The directive was
[3:36:26]
really a recommendation of
[3:36:28]
ultimately you or another board
[3:36:29]
member would be
[3:36:30]
interested in
[3:36:31]
providing the directive we
[3:36:33]
would need for it to be done.
[3:36:35]
>> Victor Angry: do we want to
[3:36:37]
come back on DECEMBER 16 and
[3:36:39]
provide that
[3:36:40]
>> please share your directive
[3:36:42]
language with the board and the
[3:36:44]
chief of staff then you can
[3:36:45]
come back give the directive.
[3:36:47]
>> Victor Angry: let me swing
[3:36:49]
through to make sure I got the
[3:36:50]
last and the greatest one i
[3:36:52]
want to thank michael and ari
[3:36:54]
from first lego league metal
[3:37:00]
jackets let me tell you
[3:37:02]
something we must always
[3:37:03]
support these young folks and
[3:37:05]
what they are doing they had a
[3:37:17]
two day competition we have
[3:37:19]
folks coming in from chantilly
[3:37:20]
from loudoun county from
[3:37:22]
richmond county from forth
[3:37:23]
south of richmond county all
[3:37:25]
the schools came to be part of
[3:37:27]
this competition this lego tech
[3:37:29]
competition I would tell you a
[3:37:30]
note this is the schools
[3:37:32]
program I was there with tracy
[3:37:33]
blake yet so schools that was
[3:37:35]
amazing what you think michael
[3:37:37]
and ari for giving me the
[3:37:38]
tour's these two young people
[3:37:40]
stood up a lot of the stuff and
[3:37:42]
they wanted they have kids and
[3:37:43]
they are as young as five years
[3:37:45]
old it was pretty amazing to
[3:37:47]
watch over the weekend.
[3:37:48]
If you have not seen that I
[3:37:50]
would ask that we get involved
[3:37:51]
and we keep this first lego
[3:37:54]
league movement going because
[3:37:56]
that is exactly what we need in
[3:37:57]
this county for our youth going
[3:37:59]
forward. That is it that is my
[3:38:00]
I'm done I want to praise what
[3:38:02]
they are doing over there that
[3:38:03]
is a great thing. I'm done
[3:38:04]
thank you venture.
[3:40:35]
>> Chair Jefferson: we are back
[3:40:37]
before we go to 7 o'clock we
[3:40:38]
have some things to finish with
[3:40:39]
closed session.
[3:40:43]
I'd like to go ahead and
[3:40:45]
certify what we discussed we
[3:40:46]
will continue in closed session
[3:40:48]
we have other additional items
[3:40:50]
we were not able to get to for
[3:40:52]
the first item I would like to
[3:40:53]
guess we will have to do a
[3:40:54]
motion correct emotion
[3:40:56]
certified I like to get a
[3:41:00]
motion to certify we discussed.
[3:41:01]
>> so moved.
[3:41:02]
>> second.
[3:41:06]
>> Chair Jefferson: do I need a
[3:41:08]
motion or report out what we
[3:41:08]
agreed to
[3:41:10]
>> Michele Robl,County
[3:41:13]
Attorney: [Unclear audio]
[3:41:14]
>> Chair Jefferson: I would
[3:41:19]
like to get a motion to
[3:41:20]
>> this is just to certify.
[3:41:22]
>> Chair Jefferson: this is
[3:41:24]
just to certify that is
[3:41:26]
unanimous thank you I would
[3:41:30]
like to get a motion to name
[3:41:31]
supervisor
[3:41:32]
yesli vega as chair
[3:41:32]
pro tem.
[3:41:32]
>> Kenny
[3:41:34]
Boddye: I make a motion
[3:41:34]
to approve.
[3:41:36]
> Chair
[3:41:38]
Jefferson: and discussion.
[3:41:50]
Let's take a vote.
[3:42:00]
Vote unanimous supervisor vega
[3:42:02]
or abstaining from the vote.
[3:42:04]
>> Chair Jefferson: for the
[3:42:06]
next one would likely get a
[3:42:07]
motion to replace victor angry
[3:42:08]
as a regular member of the
[3:42:09]
board
[3:42:10]
audit committee or
[3:42:10]
and name
[3:42:12]
of supervisor george stewart.
[3:42:14]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice
[3:42:14]
Chair: I
[3:42:16]
make a motion to approve.
[3:42:18]
Chair Jefferson: including MR.
[3:42:20]
Angry is an alternate.
[3:42:22]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[3:42:23]
make a motion to approve
[3:42:26]
>> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[3:42:26]
motion.
[3:42:28]
>> Chair Jefferson: I can do
[3:42:30]
all of those the rest I will do
[3:42:31]
I would like a motion to we
[3:42:46]
will do that when over to name
[3:42:48]
george stewart as a regular
[3:42:50]
member of the board audit
[3:42:51]
committee he will replace
[3:42:53]
supervisor victor angry will
[3:42:54]
not be an alternate on the
[3:42:56]
committee I would like to name
[3:42:57]
george stewart to join the
[3:43:00]
audit committee as an alternate
[3:43:01]
would like to name george
[3:43:03]
stewart as a regular for the
[3:43:05]
potomac and rappahannock
[3:43:06]
transportation commission known
[3:43:08]
as prtc and to name
[3:43:09]
him on the
[3:43:10]
climate energy environment
[3:43:11]
policy committee and the
[3:43:12]
chesapeake
[3:43:13]
bay and water
[3:43:14]
resources policy committee
[3:43:16]
those are two separate
[3:43:18]
committees in the metropolitan
[3:43:19]
washington council of
[3:43:19]
governments.
[3:43:21]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[3:43:23]
make a motion to approve.
[3:43:24]
Kenny Boddye: I second the
[3:43:27]
motion he will be an alternate
[3:43:28]
chesapeake bay.
[3:43:29]
>> Chair Jefferson: it is been
[3:43:31]
properly moved and seconded any
[3:43:33]
discussion let's vote.
[3:43:34]
Vote unanimous supervisor
[3:43:36]
stewart abstaining from the
[3:43:36]
vote.
[3:43:38]
>> Chair Jefferson: just to
[3:43:40]
name after we finish with
[3:43:41]
everything with the 7 o'clock
[3:43:43]
meeting will go back into
[3:43:44]
closed session we have two
[3:43:46]
additional items to discuss
[3:43:47]
with that it is now 7:03 pm we
[3:43:49]
are going to start our evening
[3:43:51]
session I would like to begin
[3:43:52]
with 13 a with 13 ai would like
[3:43:54]
to ask the applicant to come up
[3:43:55]
and present to us.
[3:43:57]
>> MADAM Chair if I could
[3:43:59]
afford the applicant comes up
[3:44:00]
and speaks I would like to note
[3:44:02]
that tonight as we start to
[3:44:03]
take a look at this case we
[3:44:08]
will notice that there will be
[3:44:09]
different from the usual cases.
[3:44:11]
We've seen in the past.
[3:44:12]
As you MAY be aware of the comp
[3:44:18]
plan opened up shortly after
[3:44:19]
the passage developers began
[3:44:21]
drawing up plans to bring
[3:44:23]
presidential communities to the
[3:44:25]
area between sudley manor drive
[3:44:26]
and rawlins ford road now
[3:44:28]
renters of other commitments of
[3:44:30]
the smart growth sustainable
[3:44:31]
peripheral plan for road
[3:44:36]
schools parks please inquire
[3:44:39]
the mistakes of overdevelopment
[3:44:41]
before road schools and several
[3:44:42]
services already are what led
[3:44:44]
to the challenges we saw in the
[3:44:46]
2000 along lindholm road and a
[3:44:47]
severe opposition to further
[3:44:49]
develop meant at the time
[3:44:51]
unfortunately the bad memories
[3:45:01]
of that approach still linger
[3:45:03]
for many in our community when
[3:45:05]
I saw that seven members were
[3:45:06]
being proposed I sat down with
[3:45:09]
the developers and asked him to
[3:45:10]
take a different approach.
[3:45:12]
Noting that the whole would be
[3:45:13]
greater than the sum of the
[3:45:15]
parts I asked him to come up
[3:45:16]
with a unified approach to
[3:45:18]
roads parks and schools fire
[3:45:20]
and police to community design
[3:45:21]
along ben hill rd. And other
[3:45:23]
elements. While there are legal
[3:45:25]
limitations imposed by the gen.
[3:45:28]
Assembly and how far we can go
[3:45:31]
resort to work within the
[3:45:32]
parameters we have district the
[3:45:34]
right balance tonight is the
[3:45:35]
first case we will see that
[3:45:37]
incorporates a unified plan a
[3:45:38]
lot of work over the past
[3:45:40]
nearly 2 years has been put
[3:45:42]
into identifying the challenges
[3:45:43]
engaging with neighboring
[3:45:45]
communities and seeking
[3:45:46]
solutions to address the
[3:45:47]
challenges.
[3:45:49]
My hope is that this helps us
[3:45:51]
take a smarter more holistic
[3:45:52]
approach to development I
[3:45:54]
appreciate county staff support
[3:45:56]
for this approach particularly
[3:45:58]
those within our transportation
[3:46:01]
planning departments and I hope
[3:46:02]
this will better serve our
[3:46:04]
county going forward thank you
[3:46:05]
MADAM Chair.
[3:46:07]
>> Chair Jefferson: that you so
[3:46:08]
very much.
[3:46:09]
You MAY approach.
[3:46:11]
>> Applicant: good evening and
[3:46:13]
CHAIRMAN And members of the
[3:46:15]
board I'm sherman patrick with
[3:46:17]
competence and doing we are
[3:46:19]
here for present brookfield
[3:46:21]
homes in the supplication for
[3:46:22]
rezoning the property is
[3:46:24]
located on the ben hill rd.,
[3:46:26]
glendora appreciated MR. Gray's
[3:46:27]
introduction it will cut down
[3:46:29]
on the amount of time I will be
[3:46:31]
spending your your this evening
[3:46:33]
trying to keep this as brief as
[3:46:34]
possible. I have about 15
[3:46:36]
slides I will spend more time
[3:46:37]
on this first slide probably
[3:46:38]
then any of the others.
[3:46:41]
The property on this case is
[3:46:42]
located on the north side of
[3:46:44]
ben hill rd. W. Of great mark
[3:46:47]
brad johnson plan community the
[3:46:48]
application was submitted in
[3:46:50]
2023 FEBRUARY 2023 it was hard
[3:46:52]
by the planning commission the
[3:46:54]
first time in FEBRUARY 2025 and
[3:46:56]
then in MAY 2025. The planning
[3:46:58]
commission recommended approval
[3:47:00]
after hearing this past MAY
[3:47:01]
proffered conditions include
[3:47:03]
master zoning plan design
[3:47:04]
guidelines for architectural
[3:47:07]
and landscaping treatments
[3:47:08]
throughout the community a 50
[3:47:10]
foot buffer along ben hill rd.
[3:47:12]
And many other measures to
[3:47:13]
assure a quality of design that
[3:47:15]
would be a benchmark along ben
[3:47:16]
hill rd.
[3:47:18]
And be continued throughout the
[3:47:19]
length of ben hill rd.
[3:47:20]
As supervisor gordy was
[3:47:22]
striving for.
[3:47:23]
In addition there is a water
[3:47:25]
quality monitoring contribution
[3:47:27]
that is proffered $75 per acre
[3:47:29]
there is a fire rescue
[3:47:31]
contribution of $1200 personal
[3:47:33]
family dwelling $1170 personal
[3:47:36]
family attached townhouse.
[3:47:37]
The schools will receive a
[3:47:44]
$5000 per unit for the market
[3:47:46]
rate units in the proposed
[3:47:47]
development and if the parks
[3:47:50]
and recreation department will
[3:47:52]
receive 47 for the market rate
[3:47:53]
units in the proposed
[3:47:55]
development and if the parks
[3:47:57]
and recreation department will
[3:48:07]
receive $4700 per single-family
[3:48:08]
dwelling in $3900 per single
[3:48:10]
family attached in addition to
[3:48:12]
the dedication of a 10.5 acre
[3:48:14]
property that brookfield owns
[3:48:16]
that is a long broad run it is
[3:48:17]
somewhat separated from the
[3:48:20]
site it fills in the missing
[3:48:21]
link of the broad run linear
[3:48:22]
trail that is along linton hall
[3:48:24]
road. There are 310 foot wide
[3:48:26]
shared use path's the trails
[3:48:28]
paved asphalt trails along ben
[3:48:28]
hill rd.
[3:48:30]
1 both sides of ben hill rd. I
[3:48:32]
will cover that were in the
[3:48:33]
transportation section there
[3:48:35]
will be one notably also that
[3:48:36]
will extended northward from
[3:48:38]
ben hill rd. This development
[3:48:40]
to connect to the adjoining
[3:48:42]
property so it will eventually
[3:48:44]
become a connection to the
[3:48:45]
direct connection to the broad
[3:48:46]
run linear trail.
[3:48:48]
That is north of this property.
[3:48:50]
There is a $17,000 per unit
[3:48:51]
contribution both townhouses
[3:48:53]
and single-family detached for
[3:48:55]
the improvement of ben hill rd.
[3:48:57]
And many of the details about
[3:48:59]
the improvement of the road
[3:49:01]
that will be covered further on
[3:49:02]
in the application for the
[3:49:04]
discussion. The property is 55
[3:49:11]
acres it is the conference of
[3:49:12]
planets calling for 1-4
[3:49:14]
dwelling units per acre the
[3:49:15]
existing zoning is a applicant
[3:49:17]
is proposing three dwelling
[3:49:20]
units per acre or total of 168
[3:49:22]
it dwelling units there will be
[3:49:24]
151 market rate dwelling units
[3:49:29]
at different price points and
[3:49:31]
they will be affordable
[3:49:33]
commitment to affordable
[3:49:34]
workforce housing of 17 minutes
[3:49:36]
that is 10% of the total 46%
[3:49:38]
open space which is generous
[3:49:39]
open space area of a project of
[3:49:43]
this size.
[3:49:45]
Housing chapter of the
[3:49:46]
conference of plan knows the
[3:49:48]
area in fact the entire nation
[3:49:51]
is facing a significant housing
[3:49:53]
shortage the net result of that
[3:49:58]
is escalating housing prices
[3:50:00]
the comprehensive plan does two
[3:50:02]
things in that regard it
[3:50:04]
encourages a diversity of
[3:50:06]
housing at different price
[3:50:07]
points which this project
[3:50:09]
includes it also encourages the
[3:50:11]
provision of affordable housing
[3:50:13]
and workforce housing which
[3:50:15]
this application also provides
[3:50:28]
it will be eight households
[3:50:29]
eight homes that will be
[3:50:31]
constructed that will be
[3:50:32]
affordable to households
[3:50:34]
earning 80% of the area median
[3:50:36]
income and then home still be
[3:50:37]
affordable to households
[3:50:39]
earning 120% of the area median
[3:50:41]
income balance of the homes
[3:50:43]
will be considered market rate
[3:50:45]
homes as you can see from this
[3:50:46]
exhibit house types are varied
[3:50:46]
by with.
[3:50:52]
In this case we are
[3:50:54]
talking about a 70 foot wide
[3:50:55]
lot with that affects the width
[3:50:57]
of the house that affects the
[3:50:58]
size of the homes some of the
[3:51:00]
single family detached will be
[3:51:02]
smaller lots houses will follow
[3:51:04]
that in comparison to the size
[3:51:05]
of them then with respect to
[3:51:07]
the single family attached it's
[3:51:09]
a little bit easier to see a
[3:51:11]
direct relationship between the
[3:51:14]
lot size and the unit with but
[3:51:16]
there will be 24 foot wide
[3:51:18]
single-family attached 20 foot
[3:51:20]
and 16 foot wide single-family
[3:51:22]
attached. This provides you a
[3:51:24]
mixture of five different
[3:51:25]
housing styles that gives you a
[3:51:27]
diversity of price points that
[3:51:29]
is something that is very badly
[3:51:30]
needed in the market.
[3:51:32]
At the planning commission in
[3:51:34]
FEBRUARY we heard from a
[3:51:35]
neighbor that owns this
[3:51:37]
property here accesses 6 acres,
[3:51:39]
it's immediately adjacent to
[3:51:40]
the strathmore proposal
[3:51:42]
strathmore has a 50 foot buffer
[3:51:43]
against that property this
[3:51:49]
neighbor was very interested in
[3:51:50]
what the impacts might be or
[3:51:52]
how that was going to affect
[3:51:54]
their enjoyment of their own.
[3:51:54]
The property
[3:51:56]
is outlined here in
[3:51:58]
this aerial photograph, that
[3:51:59]
issue has been resolved
[3:52:00]
brookfield met with them they
[3:52:02]
have the property under
[3:52:03]
contract now this property will
[3:52:06]
be purchased by brookfield they
[3:52:08]
have a good arrangement between
[3:52:14]
the two of them for their
[3:52:15]
transitioning from the site
[3:52:17]
settlement would occur after
[3:52:18]
the rezoning. Then there will
[3:52:20]
be some time for them to take
[3:52:23]
their time to relocate
[3:52:25]
eventually brookfield will
[3:52:26]
probably come in with the
[3:52:28]
rezoning for this piece of
[3:52:30]
property it is in nonconforming
[3:52:32]
a1 zone lot you can see from
[3:52:33]
this photograph there is a
[3:52:35]
large water feature upon the
[3:52:36]
property you cannot quite make
[3:52:38]
it out but there is a stream
[3:52:40]
that comes into the property
[3:52:42]
through here it is pretty much
[3:52:43]
environmentally constrained
[3:52:46]
there will be no significant
[3:52:47]
increase in the number of
[3:52:49]
dwelling units as a result of
[3:52:53]
this when it comes in later on.
[3:52:55]
Schools is always a very
[3:52:56]
important component of the
[3:52:57]
analysis you heard supervisor
[3:52:59]
gordy mentioned earlier school
[3:53:01]
capacity in enrollment is
[3:53:03]
something we give careful
[3:53:05]
consideration the analysis of
[3:53:06]
available school capacity in
[3:53:12]
this area focus to some
[3:53:13]
challenges that the school
[3:53:15]
system is facing. Those
[3:53:17]
challenges include instances
[3:53:18]
where there are schools that
[3:53:21]
are substantially overcrowded
[3:53:25]
and the schools that are being
[3:53:27]
utilized under capacity. If a
[3:53:29]
school is being utilized in the
[3:53:30]
capacity and it is not
[3:53:32]
operating efficiently sometimes
[3:53:34]
they do not have sufficient
[3:53:36]
funding to provide the special
[3:53:37]
programs that are expected in
[3:53:39]
the community. There is a
[3:53:41]
negative impact of being under
[3:53:43]
enrolled if you will there is a
[3:53:44]
declining public school
[3:53:50]
enrollment across the county we
[3:53:51]
were not able to get a
[3:53:53]
memorandum this is an issue
[3:53:55]
that is still unfolding for the
[3:53:56]
school board there will have to
[3:53:58]
be making some difficult
[3:54:00]
decisions in the future to
[3:54:01]
address these challenges what
[3:54:04]
we provided this evening is a
[3:54:06]
collection of public statements
[3:54:08]
that have been in the media
[3:54:10]
about their recommendation this
[3:54:11]
is an issue that gets resolved
[3:54:14]
at their level possibly through
[3:54:16]
school district as through the
[3:54:17]
school assignments which I will
[3:54:19]
show you an example of in the
[3:54:21]
second. The knoxville school
[3:54:22]
provides elementary and middle
[3:54:24]
school education for this site
[3:54:26]
at the present time when the
[3:54:27]
district boundaries are drawn.
[3:54:29]
The knoxville school is
[3:54:29]
overcapacity.
[3:54:31]
The brentsville district
[3:54:33]
article is under capacity it
[3:54:35]
has available capacity to serve
[3:54:36]
the needs of this particular
[3:54:36]
project.
[3:54:41]
We mentioned let's
[3:54:50]
see, I think I skipped a slide.
[3:55:02]
I did.
[3:55:04]
This is showing the declining
[3:55:06]
enrollment challenges the
[3:55:08]
school board is facing there is
[3:55:09]
been a's persistent reduction
[3:55:11]
over the past seven years of
[3:55:12]
3000 students fewer than are
[3:55:14]
enrolled in county schools in
[3:55:16]
the next four years there is
[3:55:18]
expectation that another 43,000
[3:55:19]
students would be in the system
[3:55:20]
if you will.
[3:55:28]
[Unclear audio] The boundaries
[3:55:31]
of the seven applications that
[3:55:34]
supervisor gordy mentioned that
[3:55:36]
were requested to do a
[3:55:38]
collaborative effort to analyze
[3:55:42]
the theme public infrastructure
[3:55:43]
impacts that would come from
[3:55:45]
the collective results of these
[3:55:50]
different developments.
[3:55:52]
There was a lot of focus on
[3:55:53]
schools and transportation
[3:55:55]
there was some significant
[3:55:56]
challenges there.
[3:55:58]
The conclusions of this
[3:55:58]
, worked
[3:56:09]
up the $5000 per unit monetary
[3:56:10]
contribution would be
[3:56:11]
consistent with the impacts
[3:56:13]
that were being created and
[3:56:15]
consistent with the state code
[3:56:16]
parameters for providing
[3:56:18]
monetary providing for
[3:56:20]
offsetting impacts of public
[3:56:22]
infrastructure. Also the other
[3:56:23]
would rezoning is dedicating a
[3:56:24]
middle school site.
[3:56:26]
On this map you see then hill
[3:56:28]
road coming through the
[3:56:30]
property this alignment here is
[3:56:32]
sutley manor road the
[3:56:32]
development did you see over
[3:56:36]
here is.
[3:56:38]
[Listing names] There is quite
[3:56:40]
a bit of residential
[3:56:42]
development in this area
[3:56:43]
suburban residential type
[3:56:44]
development on the north side
[3:56:46]
of ben hill wrote today about
[3:56:48]
this out of the view is
[3:56:50]
kingsburg development that is
[3:56:52]
asked by by linville road it is
[3:56:53]
coming in the direction of
[3:56:55]
linda hall road corridor.
[3:56:56]
Trathmore is outlined right
[3:56:57]
here we recommend the shape
[3:57:03]
here there's a gold color to
[3:57:05]
try to help it stand out these
[3:57:07]
other applications have been
[3:57:08]
filed most of these have been
[3:57:10]
filed by other applicants
[3:57:11]
brookfield has recently filed
[3:57:13]
the silver bell case that is
[3:57:16]
been into the county for a
[3:57:18]
little over six weeks we are
[3:57:20]
awaiting comments on the first
[3:57:22]
review.
[3:57:26]
The applicant in the master
[3:57:27]
develop and study came up with
[3:57:35]
a commonsense type of approach
[3:57:37]
that could be used for selling
[3:57:38]
students from these
[3:57:39]
developments to existing
[3:57:40]
schools in the area.
[3:57:42]
It would relieve the capacity
[3:57:45]
problems at knoxville school.
[3:57:47]
This is not this chart showing
[3:57:49]
how students would flow from
[3:57:51]
elementary school to middle
[3:57:53]
school twice school is not
[3:57:55]
requiring the redistricting of
[3:57:56]
any students that are currently
[3:57:58]
attending school.
[3:57:59]
These are from vacant parcels
[3:58:00]
that are part of this rezoning
[3:58:02]
or these seven rezoning
[3:58:03]
applications that we talk
[3:58:04]
about.
[3:58:05]
Actually I'm sorry there were
[3:58:08]
an additional six proposals
[3:58:10]
that were added to the analysis
[3:58:11]
there were six zoning cases
[3:58:14]
that had been approved or were
[3:58:16]
very near approval going
[3:58:18]
through the system those were
[3:58:20]
added. When it comes to schools
[3:58:22]
analysis we are not analyzing
[3:58:26]
just the seven applicants that
[3:58:31]
we've given the title
[3:58:33]
application where including six
[3:58:35]
other applications there in the
[3:58:36]
vicinity and also served by the
[3:58:41]
same schools I have several
[3:58:42]
slides to give you a sense of
[3:58:44]
what the enrollments are at the
[3:58:45]
present time and what they
[3:58:50]
would be as a result of this
[3:58:51]
development this late
[3:58:53]
projection up to 2037 you see
[3:58:59]
here that for the elementary
[3:59:03]
school level the glenn kirk
[3:59:07]
elementary school after the
[3:59:09]
projected students that are
[3:59:11]
based on without the approval
[3:59:18]
of the seven cases, then read
[3:59:19]
these cases into the mix there
[3:59:21]
are still hundred 59 and the
[3:59:24]
seats capacity beyond what is
[3:59:26]
being required for the
[3:59:27]
developments. Cedar point
[3:59:29]
elementary school you have a
[3:59:30]
similar margin it's still 51
[3:59:32]
empty seat after all of these
[3:59:34]
rezoning's are addressed.
[3:59:37]
Through the assignment process
[3:59:41]
that is been proposed for rt
[3:59:42]
clay would after all of the
[3:59:44]
students are added would have
[3:59:46]
124 empty seats what is
[3:59:49]
striking about these charts is
[3:59:55]
uc that these schools and the
[3:59:56]
school are 50% or below
[4:00:00]
capacity without some type of
[4:00:01]
growth being added to those.
[4:00:04]
Which is problematic.
[4:00:06]
This is the same type of format
[4:00:13]
we have the force dollar middle
[4:00:14]
school even after the addition
[4:00:16]
of the 13 cases you have
[4:00:18]
hundred and 10 empty seats that
[4:00:20]
is including the 210 seat
[4:00:26]
expansion that is in the 2028
[4:00:28]
cip. It will be funded with a
[4:00:29]
$5000 per unit contribution
[4:00:31]
would come from this
[4:00:32]
application and the other vint
[4:00:34]
hill applicants. Over
[4:00:36]
gainesville middle school same
[4:00:38]
thing only there would be 398
[4:00:39]
empty seats after the addition
[4:00:41]
of all three of these all 13 of
[4:00:43]
these proposals.
[4:00:45]
Then high school again sort of
[4:00:50]
the same situation patriot high
[4:00:51]
school would have 534 empty
[4:00:54]
seats afterwards gainesville
[4:00:56]
high school but have 81 seats.
[4:00:58]
What we tried to propose is a
[4:01:05]
commonsense way of distributing
[4:01:07]
the students that will be
[4:01:09]
generated by this new growth as
[4:01:10]
opposed to saying that you have
[4:01:18]
to redistrict existing
[4:01:20]
communities which is always a
[4:01:22]
very sensitive point. There MAY
[4:01:24]
be some other efficiencies that
[4:01:26]
the school board games and they
[4:01:27]
decide to buy redistricting
[4:01:29]
that is a decision that would
[4:01:30]
be up to them we think there is
[4:01:32]
an opportunity here to address
[4:01:33]
the need.
[4:01:34]
With respect to the vint hill
[4:01:36]
road widening and making it
[4:01:38]
consistent there is a design
[4:01:40]
that is been agreed upon by the
[4:01:44]
vint hill road developers they
[4:01:46]
have agreed to this 120 foot
[4:01:48]
right-of-way section to see
[4:01:49]
right here there will be two
[4:01:51]
lanes in each direction 16 foot
[4:01:53]
median and a 10 foot wide
[4:01:54]
shared use path on both sides
[4:01:56]
of the road which is not
[4:01:58]
required in the normal county
[4:01:59]
standards or aetna v.Standards
[4:02:01]
in addition to that there is a
[4:02:03]
utility easement and a 50 foot
[4:02:05]
landscape buffer along both
[4:02:07]
sides of the road which is also
[4:02:08]
not required under the existing
[4:02:10]
standards requirement.
[4:02:12]
This exhibit is showing for
[4:02:19]
same project that all of the
[4:02:21]
projects that are part of the
[4:02:23]
proposal these are the traffic
[4:02:24]
generating vint hill
[4:02:27]
applications the strathmore
[4:02:28]
piece is right here again.
[4:02:36]
With respect to strathmore
[4:02:38]
there is no negative impact on
[4:02:39]
the level of service or
[4:02:41]
capacity on the vint hill road.
[4:02:43]
It is only through the
[4:02:45]
participation and collaborative
[4:02:46]
effort that strathmore is
[4:02:49]
obligated to provide additional
[4:02:51]
improvements and monetary
[4:02:52]
contributions to make sure that
[4:02:55]
vint hill road has a uniform
[4:02:56]
cross-section and is built in a
[4:02:57]
way that is addressing the
[4:02:59]
needs of growth.
[4:03:01]
The proffers that are being
[4:03:04]
proposed provide for the
[4:03:12]
oversight of a development
[4:03:14]
agreement coordinated effort by
[4:03:16]
the prince william county
[4:03:18]
department of transportation
[4:03:20]
there is a commitment to join
[4:03:22]
develop meant agreement by the
[4:03:23]
applicant's will be dedication
[4:03:25]
of right away and monetary
[4:03:26]
contributions to the county or
[4:03:28]
to the joint development fund
[4:03:29]
and phasing that assures that
[4:03:31]
the impacts of home
[4:03:32]
construction to not get ahead
[4:03:34]
of the road construction and
[4:03:36]
road level of service. I think
[4:03:37]
that was a very important
[4:03:38]
feature that supervisor gordy
[4:03:51]
wanted to attain from this.
[4:03:53]
There also provisions for
[4:03:55]
interim improvements is
[4:03:56]
necessary to maintain the
[4:03:58]
levels of service if the
[4:03:59]
opportunity arises for the
[4:04:01]
county to be able to leverage
[4:04:02]
the additional improvements in
[4:04:04]
the corridor through taking
[4:04:06]
direct supervision of the
[4:04:08]
deconstruction of these road
[4:04:10]
improvements the county has the
[4:04:11]
flexibility to do that if we
[4:04:13]
take all the funding being
[4:04:14]
provided by the joint
[4:04:16]
development agreement fund and
[4:04:17]
use that for road construction.
[4:04:19]
This is a flowchart prepared by
[4:04:21]
the transportation department
[4:04:23]
to keep track of the different
[4:04:24]
pieces would go.
[4:04:26]
I'm going to try to summarize
[4:04:28]
that very briefly the first
[4:04:29]
column here is the first
[4:04:31]
scenario is actually just if
[4:04:32]
one reason we submitted that
[4:04:34]
lays out how they funding would
[4:04:36]
be collected then the applicant
[4:04:38]
would complete clearing and
[4:04:39]
grading across their property
[4:04:42]
and provide improvements
[4:04:43]
necessary to maintain the
[4:04:45]
levels of service. They also
[4:04:46]
dedicate the right way.
[4:04:48]
The second scenario is if all
[4:04:50]
of these seven or 11 zoning I'm
[4:04:52]
getting the numbers mixed up
[4:04:53]
all seven cases that were part
[4:04:58]
of the transportation agreement
[4:05:00]
are approved in that instance
[4:05:02]
you have really two columns
[4:05:05]
this is just decision points
[4:05:07]
made along the way but you have
[4:05:08]
two columns because the first
[4:05:10]
column is indicating the
[4:05:12]
developers are completing the
[4:05:23]
road through their joint
[4:05:25]
element agreement through their
[4:05:27]
private clinician overseen by
[4:05:29]
the prince william county
[4:05:31]
transportation department the
[4:05:33]
other column is in the event
[4:05:35]
the prince william county
[4:05:36]
trepidation department decides
[4:05:38]
it would like to take the
[4:05:39]
project and provided direct
[4:05:40]
supervision.
[4:05:42]
That would presumably happen if
[4:05:43]
there is a wait to get
[4:05:45]
regularly sharing funds or
[4:05:46]
additional funding that would
[4:05:48]
allow them to leverage things
[4:05:50]
and get bit better and more
[4:05:51]
improvement in that quarter.
[4:05:53]
Then the final scenario here is
[4:05:54]
for in the event over several
[4:05:56]
of the seven applications that
[4:05:58]
are part of the transportation
[4:06:01]
agreement would be approved
[4:06:02]
operationally is the same as
[4:06:04]
this over here there still
[4:06:06]
decision where the county can
[4:06:07]
take it over if the county does
[4:06:09]
not take over there is a joint
[4:06:11]
develop meant agreement and
[4:06:12]
improvements will be provided
[4:06:14]
in a phased fashion and in a
[4:06:15]
way that will maintain levels
[4:06:18]
of service throughout the
[4:06:19]
length of the concept area for
[4:06:20]
the improvements to vint hill
[4:06:21]
road.
[4:06:22]
This concludes the presentation
[4:06:25]
the applicant is addressing the
[4:06:27]
prince william county needs as
[4:06:28]
well as the master development
[4:06:29]
plan is looking at the prince
[4:06:31]
william county needs for
[4:06:33]
schools particularly
[4:06:35]
transportation it is compatible
[4:06:36]
with the densities that are in
[4:06:38]
the area of the development
[4:06:40]
area of the project obviously
[4:06:41]
[Listing names] Which is a
[4:06:43]
large plant community school
[4:06:45]
assignments are suggested that
[4:06:48]
could avoid the issue that,
[4:06:50]
from redistricting but that is
[4:06:52]
truly a schoolboard discussion
[4:06:54]
that needs to be made at a
[4:06:55]
later date. But the vint hill
[4:06:57]
road four-lane improvements on
[4:06:59]
the part of this application
[4:07:01]
and the agreement between the
[4:07:02]
collaborative effort that
[4:07:05]
really stands out from all the
[4:07:07]
earth is only cases that I've
[4:07:09]
witnessed the time I've been
[4:07:10]
around here in doing this. This
[4:07:12]
is really pretty exceptional
[4:07:14]
type of project that has been
[4:07:16]
undertaken I think everyone
[4:07:18]
involved transportation
[4:07:19]
department as well as the
[4:07:21]
different applicants are to be
[4:07:22]
commended for this effort.
[4:07:24]
If you have any questions I'd
[4:07:26]
be happy to answer them.
[4:07:28]
>> Chair Jefferson: I don't see
[4:07:29]
anything in the queue.
[4:07:31]
Thank you so very much we will
[4:07:41]
now go on to the county.
[4:07:49]
>> Scott Meyer: planning
[4:07:51]
office. As sherman pointed out
[4:07:53]
that this project has been a
[4:07:58]
collaborative effort for the
[4:07:59]
vint hill corridor this is been
[4:08:01]
in process for just about 2.5
[4:08:03]
years to clarify it is counter
[4:08:05]
numerous different iterations
[4:08:08]
of different layout changes it
[4:08:10]
initially went to the planning
[4:08:12]
commission in FEBRUARY then it
[4:08:14]
went to the planning commission
[4:08:15]
for final action in MAY then it
[4:08:17]
went to the planning commission
[4:08:19]
for final action in MAY 2025,
[4:08:21]
there has been a lot of
[4:08:23]
coordination with the various
[4:08:24]
applicants parties in this
[4:08:26]
corridor just to kind of point
[4:08:30]
that out.
[4:08:32]
you've been oriented with the
[4:08:33]
site busier this is strathmore
[4:08:35]
this is the first project in
[4:08:38]
the seven the 720 quarter
[4:08:40]
projects to which sherman was
[4:08:41]
mentioning just to clarify this
[4:08:42]
is the first project in the
[4:08:50]
density is 3.03 dwelling units
[4:08:52]
per acre proposed bridge which
[4:08:53]
we feel is very much in line
[4:08:58]
with the 1-4 in the residential
[4:09:00]
expected densities. Staff is
[4:09:02]
recommended approval is 55
[4:09:12]
acres we will have a total of
[4:09:13]
168 residential units
[4:09:15]
consisting of single-family
[4:09:17]
detached and single-family
[4:09:18]
attached all of the affordable
[4:09:21]
units are the single-family
[4:09:22]
attached there is various
[4:09:24]
widths and so forth that
[4:09:25]
sherman mentioned just wanted
[4:09:27]
to get your orientation on that
[4:09:28]
matter this is on the north
[4:09:30]
side of vint hill road. Just to
[4:09:32]
clarify that this is and what
[4:09:34]
is the development area braemar
[4:09:36]
is to the east you will see
[4:09:38]
right here we are looking for
[4:09:39]
compatibility that is not to
[4:09:41]
ignore the fact that there is a
[4:09:46]
massive infrastructure outlay
[4:09:48]
for this whole area. This is
[4:09:49]
drastically going to change the
[4:09:51]
whole corridor of this area we
[4:09:53]
have been in coordination with
[4:09:54]
the applicant and know
[4:09:56]
supervisor gordy office has
[4:09:57]
been doing a lot of endeavors
[4:09:59]
with that. This is where we are
[4:10:00]
right now is currently zoned
[4:10:11]
a-1 just to give you an idea.
[4:10:12]
This is showing all project
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right here I just marked with
[4:10:16]
red start the strathmore
[4:10:17]
product again just the first
[4:10:19]
one that is before the board
[4:10:21]
this is showing material this
[4:10:23]
in the context of the project
[4:10:25]
the frontage improvements are
[4:10:27]
being made there is a proposed
[4:10:31]
realignment of pioneer drive
[4:10:33]
there is a roundabout that is
[4:10:35]
ultimately proposed in this
[4:10:35]
area.
[4:10:37]
We are focusing here on the
[4:10:39]
strathmore site itself.
[4:10:40]
This is from the design
[4:10:47]
guidelines as sherman mentioned
[4:10:49]
there numerous connections to
[4:10:51]
the external part of the site
[4:10:52]
is just trying to give you an
[4:10:54]
orientation of any perspective
[4:10:55]
of how it will link to the
[4:10:57]
other projects greenhaven to
[4:10:59]
the east the village of broad
[4:11:01]
run to the west although what
[4:11:02]
is on the south side of vint
[4:11:04]
hill road and as sherman
[4:11:06]
mentioned the stewart project
[4:11:08]
property bargaining is now
[4:11:10]
under contract it was cold
[4:11:11]
outside before we are looking
[4:11:13]
at 50 foot contiguous buffer
[4:11:16]
along the frontage that was
[4:11:18]
another very important aspect
[4:11:24]
of this along with different
[4:11:26]
easements and so forth. This is
[4:11:28]
showing the layout again not to
[4:11:30]
go into a lot of detail, the
[4:11:31]
affordable most affordable
[4:11:33]
units are in the interior part
[4:11:35]
of the site here in yellow, all
[4:11:38]
the single-family attached we
[4:11:41]
have single-family detached,
[4:11:41]
throughout the site 46% open
[4:11:48]
space which we feel is quite
[4:11:50]
noted this from the master
[4:11:51]
zoning plan which sherman has
[4:12:02]
talked about. One of the
[4:12:04]
environmental things just to
[4:12:05]
mention is that the
[4:12:06]
prioritization of the resources
[4:12:08]
we had some discussion with
[4:12:10]
over time we feel we are in a
[4:12:11]
better spot now than we were
[4:12:13]
before there is a 55 inch wide
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what you think is the county
[4:12:20]
champions the white oak the
[4:12:21]
applicant is doing significant
[4:12:23]
strides to save it but however
[4:12:25]
we are still concerned about
[4:12:27]
how well this will be done in
[4:12:28]
total because the applicant on
[4:12:30]
the west side of the village
[4:12:32]
side is not doing exactly what
[4:12:33]
this applicant is doing what
[4:12:35]
you do when you have a tree on
[4:12:37]
the property line can do the
[4:12:39]
best you can on your side. I
[4:12:41]
just want to mention that as
[4:12:43]
well this is included in a
[4:12:44]
self-report vint hill
[4:12:46]
improvement concept plan this
[4:12:48]
is the current alignment of
[4:12:48]
pioneer.
[4:12:50]
This is in the back of the
[4:12:52]
staff report there will be a
[4:12:53]
roundabout plan here we feel
[4:12:55]
the applicant is doing their
[4:12:57]
share forth their impacts to
[4:12:59]
the axis improvements along the
[4:13:00]
frontage.
[4:13:01]
These are from the design
[4:13:03]
guidelines of single-family
[4:13:05]
detached single-family
[4:13:07]
attached. There is a modified
[4:13:08]
townhouse detail which is
[4:13:10]
allowing for reduction of 16
[4:13:11]
feet in width we feel this
[4:13:13]
provides the variety of houses
[4:13:15]
that were looking for in this
[4:13:16]
area there is also a berm
[4:13:18]
utility easement it took a
[4:13:19]
while to get to this point this
[4:13:22]
is just showing different
[4:13:24]
perspectives there is entrance
[4:13:31]
features we try to look for
[4:13:33]
continuity with the site and
[4:13:35]
the other sites I cannot speak
[4:13:36]
to all the other sites since
[4:13:38]
this is the first one without
[4:13:40]
disabilities going to set the
[4:13:41]
trend for what happens down the
[4:13:43]
stream with the other
[4:13:44]
developments.
[4:13:45]
This is another perspective
[4:13:47]
here with the staff report we
[4:13:49]
feel all the planning
[4:13:51]
components are consistent
[4:13:52]
environment want to point out
[4:13:55]
that these are still permitting
[4:13:56]
weaknesses that I need to
[4:13:58]
mention because were telling
[4:14:00]
all sides in our analysis feels
[4:14:02]
the applicant has done a really
[4:14:04]
commendable job with their
[4:14:07]
impacts to these best ministry
[4:14:08]
at white oak but we feel that
[4:14:10]
we still are not sure how
[4:14:12]
successful that would be in
[4:14:14]
time with the other development
[4:14:16]
to the west there are residual
[4:14:17]
impacts to on-site wetlands
[4:14:19]
extremes overall could feel the
[4:14:24]
applicant has observed the lay
[4:14:26]
of the land and resources with
[4:14:28]
the schools, there is available
[4:14:35]
hospital capacity staff has not
[4:14:37]
vetted the additional analysis
[4:14:39]
that the applicant is done for
[4:14:41]
schools. Just to point out the
[4:14:43]
combined applicants have done
[4:14:44]
their separate analysis for
[4:14:46]
this corridor and it vint hill
[4:14:48]
for schools this is included in
[4:14:50]
the back of my staff report.
[4:14:51]
Sherman spent a lot of time
[4:14:53]
talking about schools
[4:14:55]
redistricting. My planning
[4:14:57]
staff report does not get into
[4:14:57]
that scope.
[4:14:59]
We are going by what schools
[4:15:01]
has provided us it goes back to
[4:15:04]
MARCH 2025 redistricting and
[4:15:06]
other things is another
[4:15:08]
conversation to be had I know
[4:15:09]
supervisor gordy we discussed
[4:15:11]
that.
[4:15:13]
We just have not done a lot of
[4:15:14]
additional analysis with
[4:15:14]
schools.
[4:15:15]
We feel that there is a level
[4:15:23]
of uncertainty based on
[4:15:24]
assumptions that are made we
[4:15:26]
feel with the monetary
[4:15:27]
contribution that is provided
[4:15:28]
the extra capacity the trends
[4:15:35]
in producing yield from others
[4:15:39]
developments will have on
[4:15:41]
schools we feel it will be
[4:15:42]
mitigated we can only speak to
[4:15:44]
the analysis the schools have
[4:15:45]
given us.
[4:15:47]
Just want to mention that as
[4:15:48]
well.
[4:15:49]
Also there was quarter study
[4:15:51]
which was kicked off last small
[4:15:53]
area plan for the vint hill
[4:15:56]
corridor that was last night of
[4:16:07]
course the timing of this
[4:16:08]
strathmore has been in the
[4:16:10]
pipeline for a long time
[4:16:11]
strathmore is before you
[4:16:14]
tonight but the small area plan
[4:16:15]
was officially kicked off last
[4:16:17]
night by the planning office
[4:16:19]
with these different products
[4:16:20]
we now have more formal
[4:16:22]
guidance and help we are going
[4:16:24]
to assess the cumulative impact
[4:16:26]
in this quarter. I also want to
[4:16:28]
mention the process timing of
[4:16:29]
the small area plan is in its
[4:16:31]
early stages obviously those
[4:16:33]
impacts are not known right now
[4:16:34]
strathmore has done as much as
[4:16:36]
it could have done given the
[4:16:38]
timing and its evolution over
[4:16:39]
time.
[4:16:40]
We feel we are in a supportable
[4:16:43]
spot with the application
[4:16:45]
planning commission did
[4:16:47]
ultimately recommend approval
[4:16:49]
with proffers they did it in
[4:16:56]
JANUARY there was additional
[4:16:58]
consideration by the board of
[4:16:59]
county supervisors that was
[4:17:01]
made they've been reflected in
[4:17:05]
the proffers we are permitting
[4:17:06]
are provoked with the proffers
[4:17:08]
dated OCTOBER 3 we feel the
[4:17:10]
density is consistent it is a
[4:17:11]
cohesive plan makes development
[4:17:13]
we need rooftops if it feels
[4:17:15]
different affordable housing
[4:17:23]
needs.
[4:17:24]
It's in line with various
[4:17:26]
objectives of the strategic
[4:17:28]
plan reduced transportation
[4:17:29]
staff here we have also
[4:17:31]
environment. Here of course the
[4:17:32]
applicant and I am happy to
[4:17:34]
answer any questions for you
[4:17:35]
thank you very much.
[4:17:37]
>> Chair Jefferson: anybody
[4:17:38]
have any questions for staff?
[4:17:40]
All right supervisor stewart.
[4:17:42]
>> George Stewart: I have a
[4:18:05]
question for transportation.
[4:18:07]
By the look of the overall?
[4:18:09]
It appears from the least we
[4:18:10]
have four lanes with things
[4:18:12]
down to two lanes open back up
[4:18:14]
to four lanes and back down to
[4:18:15]
two lanes. Once more open up
[4:18:17]
the four lanes for very short
[4:18:19]
period of time back down to two
[4:18:19]
lanes.
[4:18:21]
According to the traffic
[4:18:22]
study there is going to be
[4:18:24]
23,000 more trips have you
[4:18:26]
first of all coordinated with.
[4:18:28]
[Listing names] County so they
[4:18:29]
can handle that much traffic
[4:18:31]
coming their way [Listing
[4:18:32]
names] County so they can
[4:18:34]
handle that much traffic coming
[4:18:36]
their way, #1, and number two
[4:18:36]
why not
[4:18:38]
just make it four lanes
[4:18:40]
all the way through to avoid
[4:18:41]
bottlenecking it occurs to me
[4:18:43]
you will get bottlenecking
[4:18:45]
anyway once you enter.
[4:18:46]
[Listing names].
[4:18:47]
>> department of
[4:18:49]
transportation. Supervisor
[4:18:50]
stewart great?
[4:18:52]
I will start with your first
[4:18:55]
regarding coordination in terms
[4:18:56]
of the traffic analysis we work
[4:19:01]
with the applicant and v.The
[4:19:03]
study area typically when we
[4:19:05]
look at a rezoning like this or
[4:19:06]
multiple in an area we look at
[4:19:08]
a specific study area we
[4:19:09]
typically don't go beyond the
[4:19:12]
limits especially if it's in a
[4:19:13]
different county unless it's
[4:19:15]
adjacent to a neighboring
[4:19:15]
county.
[4:19:17]
N our comp plan we
[4:19:18]
have vint hill's four lanes
[4:19:19]
between rollins fourth road and
[4:19:31]
route 28 west of rollins fourth
[4:19:33]
road comes to length there are
[4:19:34]
certain assumptions made to
[4:19:36]
answer your question we do not
[4:19:37]
coordinate with.
[4:19:37]
[Listing names]
[4:19:39]
County we focus
[4:19:41]
within the study area at the
[4:19:42]
intersections that play.
[4:19:43]
>> can address your other
[4:19:46]
question when it comes to the
[4:19:47]
widening.
[4:19:48]
[Listing names] Is our
[4:19:49]
transportation case planner
[4:19:51]
he's been heavily involved away
[4:19:51]
the
[4:19:53]
vint hill corridor is
[4:19:54]
developed is essentially 2
[4:19:56]
miles widening between.
[4:20:04]
[Listing names] And cattle run
[4:20:06]
when we look at the widening we
[4:20:07]
look at impact electric and tio
[4:20:09]
for different days look that
[4:20:11]
developments individually also
[4:20:17]
looked at development as a
[4:20:19]
whole to include the seven that
[4:20:21]
we are discussing. But that tia
[4:20:22]
showed was impacts to several
[4:20:24]
key intersections within the 2
[4:20:26]
mile corridor since the focus
[4:20:28]
of the lightning was within the
[4:20:29]
2 mile corridor.
[4:20:31]
>> George Stewart: that doesn't
[4:20:33]
exactly answer my question I
[4:20:35]
will put more in a flat footed
[4:20:39]
parts before collecting that
[4:20:41]
bend in the road to the west
[4:20:42]
that is more of a blind corner
[4:20:44]
the point is this is a very
[4:20:46]
dangerous rural road to have
[4:20:47]
been fatalities and other
[4:20:49]
accidents, is that part of the
[4:20:51]
road not being widened because
[4:20:52]
proffers did not want to be
[4:20:54]
given for that specific area to
[4:21:12]
make the whole thing for lanes
[4:21:13]
all the way through.
[4:21:15]
>> it was part of the oral
[4:21:17]
discussion with one of the
[4:21:18]
things we look at when we
[4:21:20]
looked at the quarter
[4:21:22]
improvement was the roadway
[4:21:23]
improvement we want to look at
[4:21:24]
what is feasible within the
[4:21:26]
number of developments coming
[4:21:28]
in and the improvements being
[4:21:29]
proposed when it comes to
[4:21:31]
safety that is something
[4:21:31]
we
[4:21:33]
looked at the applicant is
[4:21:34]
relying as part of the cattle
[4:21:35]
run case there relighting
[4:21:36]
the
[4:21:38]
curve in the road one of the
[4:21:39]
things we work with the
[4:21:40]
applicant on is the roundabout
[4:21:42]
and allison asked alex when he
[4:21:44]
returns from 2-4 lanes around
[4:21:46]
about will serve as a traffic
[4:21:48]
control but a safety measure as
[4:21:50]
you transition from 2-4 lanes.
[4:21:51]
>> George Stewart: no more
[4:21:52]
questions.
[4:21:52]
School and.
[4:21:54]
>> Yesli Vega: come back.
[4:21:56]
I have just a few questions I
[4:21:57]
will ask for very brief
[4:21:59]
responses so I don't run out of
[4:22:01]
time and later manager if there
[4:22:03]
is another opportunity for
[4:22:05]
folks to expand they can do so.
[4:22:07]
Based on discussions with my
[4:22:08]
office on the 13th we were
[4:22:10]
informed that the currently the
[4:22:12]
only reason vint hill needs
[4:22:13]
widening is because of the
[4:22:15]
proposed projects on the table.
[4:22:19]
Is that still the understanding
[4:22:21]
>> that is correct.
[4:22:23]
>> Yesli Vega: my question is
[4:22:25]
understanding that this project
[4:22:26]
stands alone for scrutiny for
[4:22:28]
the products plan to come to
[4:22:29]
the area are related as they
[4:22:30]
side.
[4:22:32]
>> the intent is for them to
[4:22:36]
come to a jd
[4:22:38]
>> Yesli Vega: have those
[4:22:39]
circumstances changed.
[4:22:40]
>>,where.
[4:22:42]
>> Yesli Vega: does this mean
[4:22:43]
these products are initiating
[4:22:45]
the need for the road
[4:22:45]
improvements.
[4:22:47]
>> yes they are
[4:22:48]
>> Yesli Vega:
[4:22:48]
if traffic
[4:22:50]
volumes were unchanged from
[4:22:51]
current levels with these
[4:22:53]
improvements be necessary for
[4:22:54]
public safety or traffic flow.
[4:22:56]
>> for congestion purposes it
[4:22:58]
would not be necessary.
[4:22:59]
>> Yesli Vega: thank you does
[4:23:13]
this now then mean that the
[4:23:15]
current road is suitable for
[4:23:16]
travel should nothing change.
[4:23:17]
>> yes.
[4:23:19]
>> Yesli Vega: I was also
[4:23:20]
informed that there are no
[4:23:22]
current safety concerns as the
[4:23:23]
accident but have been
[4:23:25]
occurring in this area are
[4:23:27]
largely due to driver behavior
[4:23:28]
rather than road conditions is
[4:23:29]
this likert.
[4:23:31]
>> that is a part of it there
[4:23:33]
was a recent incident at owl's
[4:23:34]
nest we believe it was related
[4:23:36]
to behavior I have to confirm
[4:23:38]
we did look into that x and.
[4:23:40]
>> Yesli Vega: thank you MADAM
[4:23:41]
Chair those are the questions I
[4:23:42]
have for now.
[4:23:44]
>> Chair Jefferson: before I go
[4:23:45]
to supervisor and group when
[4:23:47]
you talk about driver behavior
[4:23:48]
he took my speeding.
[4:23:50]
>> speeding if it's not related
[4:23:52]
to the design of the roadway
[4:23:54]
not yielding to traffic
[4:23:55]
speeding typically under the
[4:23:55]
influence.
[4:23:57]
>> Chair Jefferson: I just want
[4:23:59]
to go back to that blind spot
[4:24:01]
that curve. Haven't there been
[4:24:02]
a lot of fatalities or anything
[4:24:04]
related to that curve if people
[4:24:06]
are speeding not paying
[4:24:08]
attention going fast or on that
[4:24:08]
curve.
[4:24:10]
>> in a recent review after
[4:24:11]
confirm there's been some
[4:24:13]
incident what we call off road
[4:24:14]
losing control that is typical
[4:24:16]
in a roadway like this we can
[4:24:18]
come back with the exact
[4:24:19]
incident.
[4:24:20]
>> Chair Jefferson: I guess my
[4:24:22]
question driver behavior is
[4:24:23]
dependent on the road and
[4:24:24]
design
[4:24:25]
because vint hill is a
[4:24:27]
place absent people go fast
[4:24:28]
because they feel they can
[4:24:29]
correct.
[4:24:29]
>> correct.
[4:24:31]
>> Chair Jefferson: I have no
[4:24:32]
more questions.
[4:24:34]
>> Victor Angry: not for you in
[4:24:37]
the seven projects all of these
[4:24:38]
developments come together I
[4:24:40]
don't know if I heard this I
[4:24:42]
know we are just talk about one
[4:24:44]
now interpersonal connections
[4:24:45]
are we going to connect these
[4:24:46]
neighborhoods I will ask for
[4:24:48]
your one of them I guess we
[4:24:49]
have six more to go I would
[4:24:52]
really hope so that is kind of
[4:24:53]
the best way to get around.
[4:24:55]
>> Applicant: there was a great
[4:24:59]
deal of attention for these
[4:25:01]
interpersonal connection police
[4:25:03]
department whenever the
[4:25:03]
opportunity was
[4:25:03]
available and
[4:25:04]
was provided.
[4:25:06]
>> Chair Jefferson:
[4:25:08]
>> Kenny Boddye: scott if you
[4:25:22]
can come back up.
[4:25:23]
Thank you for the presentation
[4:25:25]
thank you to the applicant
[4:25:27]
taken to the transportation
[4:25:29]
staff a couple of quick
[4:25:30]
questions for me scott in your
[4:25:32]
presentation you always do a
[4:25:33]
really good job of establishing
[4:25:35]
the context of the land use
[4:25:37]
around both proposed and
[4:25:38]
current if you can bring that
[4:25:39]
back up quickly.
[4:25:41]
I think it is your first or
[4:25:42]
second slide I think your
[4:25:44]
second slide I appreciate that
[4:25:46]
code I think this is a really
[4:25:48]
good job of highlighting where
[4:25:50]
this is lot of folks who have
[4:25:51]
given concern has tried to make
[4:25:53]
it seem like there's some
[4:25:55]
far-flung place in the rural
[4:25:56]
area where there is an existing
[4:25:58]
rpc community but not
[4:26:05]
predicable parcels to the east.
[4:26:06]
From your expertise as a
[4:26:07]
planner to me given how much
[4:26:09]
open space is being proposed
[4:26:19]
here would this be an
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appropriate transition point
[4:26:22]
from the very heavy
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or
[4:26:24]
preestablished community as we
[4:26:25]
go further out?
[4:26:26]
>> Scott Meyer: we feel yes
[4:26:28]
given the context it does
[4:26:30]
provide for that transition.
[4:26:32]
>> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[4:26:33]
that resent this is in the
[4:26:35]
development area can you
[4:26:36]
elaborate on that.
[4:26:38]
>> Scott Meyer: correct we had
[4:26:39]
air rural area the rural
[4:26:41]
crescent we don't have that
[4:26:43]
anymore there are areas where
[4:26:45]
we are sensitive to density but
[4:26:47]
being on the north side of vint
[4:26:48]
hill road this is kind of like
[4:26:50]
where srl was suburban
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residential lower density
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nothing is changed with where
[4:27:06]
where the lower density
[4:27:08]
suburban development could have
[4:27:10]
been anticipated for english.
[4:27:12]
>> Kenny Boddye: I appreciate
[4:27:14]
that I think that's an
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important context to me is
[4:27:17]
looking at the score door it
[4:27:18]
felt like to seven section was
[4:27:20]
where we really want to be a
[4:27:22]
lot more sensitive to the
[4:27:23]
densities that was the actual
[4:27:25]
boundary line the rural
[4:27:26]
crescent was down there that is
[4:27:28]
why all that when we redid the
[4:27:30]
comp plan was designated c rise
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versus suburban style density
[4:27:33]
is that?
[4:27:34]
>> Scott Meyer: left everything
[4:27:37]
on the north side is more about
[4:27:37]
suburban low-density.
[4:27:39]
>> Kenny Boddye: that is all
[4:27:42]
for you scott I think that was
[4:27:43]
an important place making paolo
[4:27:44]
back to you for second.
[4:27:46]
To go back to transportation
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and the roadway considerations
[4:27:49]
here I noticed some of this is
[4:27:51]
sort of just a product of how
[4:27:53]
this is being planned out how
[4:27:55]
there is going to be six other
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applications brought the way
[4:28:05]
let's talk about the traffic
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safety piece about this little
[4:28:09]
bit where we have planned
[4:28:11]
roundabout signalized
[4:28:12]
intersection that were not
[4:28:12]
there
[4:28:14]
before more collectively
[4:28:16]
around pedestrian and things
[4:28:18]
like that can you talk about
[4:28:19]
the glendora vision for that
[4:28:20]
piece.
[4:28:21]
>> when it comes to the vint
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hill corridor plan work with
[4:28:24]
the applicant for the
[4:28:26]
compliment someone arterial
[4:28:28]
roadway it's intended to carry
[4:28:30]
over 15,000 vehicles per day
[4:28:31]
one of the things we work with
[4:28:33]
the applicant on is modifying
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the typical sections included
[4:28:37]
lower the design speed from a
[4:28:39]
safety point of view that helps
[4:28:40]
with the character of the
[4:28:42]
roadway weekly chore as far as
[4:28:44]
the development of self we have
[4:28:45]
turn lanes you have your
[4:28:47]
crashes mostly at intersection
[4:28:48]
that is we have the most
[4:28:50]
conflict points to make sure
[4:28:51]
all entrances had adequate
[4:28:53]
families to meet the standards
[4:28:55]
that we have the two
[4:28:56]
roundabouts that are proposed
[4:28:58]
within the corridor plan one
[4:28:59]
and three line pioneer as part
[4:29:01]
of strathmore and at the other
[4:29:03]
as part of al's nest with
[4:29:04]
transition from four lanes to
[4:29:06]
two lanes focus at the major
[4:29:07]
intersections mullins forge
[4:29:09]
road and vint hill to see a lot
[4:29:12]
of congestion therefrom safety
[4:29:13]
point of view we want to
[4:29:15]
separate traffic so you have
[4:29:16]
dedicated left and right turn
[4:29:18]
lanes in addition to three
[4:29:19]
lanes same thing when it comes
[4:29:21]
to suddenly manner and vint
[4:29:23]
hill you have adequate turn
[4:29:24]
lanes and facilities there. The
[4:29:26]
plan itself as CHAIRMAN Mission
[4:29:28]
has a shared use path on both
[4:29:30]
sides will will project will do
[4:29:32]
one trail and once on the
[4:29:33]
sidewalk on the other it is
[4:29:35]
what makes this corridor plan a
[4:29:37]
little unique address some of
[4:29:39]
the safety and connectivity
[4:29:39]
concerns.
[4:29:41]
>> Kenny Boddye: left point
[4:29:42]
MADAM Chair thank you for
[4:29:44]
lending on that shared use path
[4:29:46]
is the current condition of
[4:29:49]
pedestrian connectivity on this
[4:29:50]
part of vint hill road.
[4:29:51]
>> there is none or minimal we
[4:29:53]
have it any paved shoulders
[4:29:53]
it's
[4:29:55]
a ditch sections there isto
[4:29:55]
walk.
[4:29:57]
>> Kenny Boddye: or we would be
[4:30:00]
going from dishes to shared use
[4:30:00]
path's on both sides.
[4:30:02]
>> Kenny Boddye: appreciate
[4:30:04]
that thank you MADAM Chair
[4:30:04]
throughout.
[4:30:06]
>> Yesli Vega: paolo you are
[4:30:07]
the men of the night.
[4:30:09]
Sort of crew the tia shows the
[4:30:10]
daily trips on this project
[4:30:12]
will drive up a 2% increase
[4:30:13]
right.
[4:30:14]
>> that is a projection use
[4:30:16]
when we do traffic analysis
[4:30:17]
that's
[4:30:18]
typical growth when you
[4:30:19]
look at traffic study 's.
[4:30:22]
>> Yesli Vega: according to the
[4:30:24]
tia on this product any need
[4:30:25]
for major road improvements.
[4:30:27]
> yes frontage improvements
[4:30:31]
typically
[4:30:34]
>> Yesli Vega: what type of
[4:30:34]
improvements.
[4:30:37]
>> frontage improvements mainly
[4:30:38]
turn lanes accessed on its own
[4:30:40]
when we look at development
[4:30:41]
individually all it required
[4:30:42]
was frontage
[4:30:44]
improvements left
[4:30:45]
and right turn lanes.
[4:30:47]
>> Yesli Vega: can have scott,
[4:30:48]
please thank you paolo.
[4:30:50]
>> Yesli Vega: scott you
[4:30:53]
mentioned staff had not had
[4:30:55]
enough time to properly get the
[4:30:56]
school analysis can you
[4:30:58]
elaborate a little bit on that.
[4:30:59]
> Scott Meyer: a couple of
[4:31:07]
things. I'm glad you are asking
[4:31:09]
we received our development mac
[4:31:11]
statement from the schools
[4:31:13]
that's attached misstep report
[4:31:15]
the applicant at the same time
[4:31:18]
has gone a collaborative vint
[4:31:19]
hill corridor study on their
[4:31:21]
assessment of schools that was
[4:31:22]
sent to the schools the county
[4:31:26]
schools we are reflecting that
[4:31:28]
in the report but we are basing
[4:31:30]
our analysis on what the
[4:31:32]
schools are given us. We have
[4:31:35]
not done we don't have the
[4:31:36]
expertise to do an extra level
[4:31:39]
of analysis.
[4:31:40]
It is acknowledged and
[4:31:41]
understood that the trends MAY
[4:31:43]
be changing but we don't have
[4:31:46]
the metrics behind what if the
[4:31:49]
applicant is done.
[4:31:50]
Sherman can
[4:31:51]
probably answer that
[4:31:53]
a lot better than I would be
[4:31:53]
able to.
[4:31:55]
>> Yesli Vega: I was just
[4:31:57]
curious since you said you had
[4:31:59]
outfitted the school analysis
[4:32:02]
okay I brought this up earlier
[4:32:04]
today in a different project it
[4:32:06]
seems to be a reoccurring trend
[4:32:14]
here one that we need to figure
[4:32:15]
out and figure out rather
[4:32:16]
quickly it also has to do with
[4:32:18]
the required four minute travel
[4:32:20]
time for basic life support
[4:32:22]
this falls outside of that
[4:32:24]
radius what are the plans maybe
[4:32:24]
it MAY
[4:32:25]
be supervisor gordy the
[4:32:27]
presentation to mention the one
[4:32:28]
that will service this entire
[4:32:29]
area.
[4:32:30]
[Unclear audio] Are you aware
[4:32:32]
can you share any of that scott
[4:32:34]
are you in a position to do so.
[4:32:36]
>> Scott Meyer: I don't have
[4:32:37]
specifics on that supervisor
[4:32:39]
gordy if there is anything you
[4:32:40]
want to say.
[4:32:43]
>> Yesli Vega: I do have more
[4:32:44]
things speed there is a
[4:32:46]
proposed fire station site that
[4:32:49]
would be offered as another one
[4:32:50]
of the departments at sellers
[4:32:53]
road now was last note the fire
[4:32:55]
departments already working
[4:32:56]
with the developer on and
[4:32:57]
compositions about
[4:32:58]
that site.
[4:33:03]
>> Yesli Vega: is the county
[4:33:06]
arborist here.
[4:33:07]
I have a couple of questions
[4:33:14]
for you sir.
[4:33:19]
We heard a little bit about the
[4:33:20]
white oak tree and at the
[4:33:21]
clearing and all of that can
[4:33:23]
talk a little bit about the
[4:33:24]
concerns I did read a little
[4:33:27]
bit about it misstep report but
[4:33:28]
for the public awareness I like
[4:33:29]
to hear it from you.
[4:33:35]
>> our requirements talks about
[4:33:37]
tree preservation is basically
[4:33:38]
what it states is every inch
[4:33:41]
diameter should be out 1 foot
[4:33:46]
radius that would be with the
[4:33:48]
54 inch tree it should go out a
[4:33:49]
minimum of 54 feet to no
[4:33:55]
disturbance no compaction no
[4:33:57]
impact to the tree roots none
[4:33:59]
whatsoever. The concern that we
[4:34:01]
have is the adjacent
[4:34:05]
development is not doing a
[4:34:07]
mirror image. My industry
[4:34:08]
actually calls for more
[4:34:13]
protection as 1.5 feet but rdc
[4:34:15]
only requires 1 foot radius per
[4:34:16]
inch. They are
[4:34:17]
offering to do a
[4:34:18]
chemical treatment with.
[4:34:20]
[Listing names] Which is a
[4:34:21]
growth regulator growth
[4:34:24]
regulator physically slows the
[4:34:26]
tree down so it can handle
[4:34:27]
certain impacts specifically
[4:34:32]
with the root compaction and
[4:34:33]
root damage of some kind.
[4:34:35]
>> Yesli Vega: okay. Thank you
[4:34:37]
for that explanation scott
[4:34:39]
think it is going to be you I'm
[4:34:40]
sorry sir I did not catch her
[4:34:46]
name.
[4:34:52]
Scott can you show me I don't
[4:34:54]
know if you have it in the
[4:34:55]
presentation I know there are
[4:34:57]
some concerns about impacted
[4:34:58]
wetlands in different parts
[4:34:59]
can
[4:35:00]
you talk to me a little bit
[4:35:01]
about that.
[4:35:04]
>> Scott Meyer: this I guess it
[4:35:08]
is probably unclear there is a
[4:35:11]
it is up in this area here.
[4:35:14]
I should probably go to the
[4:35:23]
excuse me.
[4:35:25]
Where this road is right here
[4:35:29]
it is crossing.
[4:35:31]
This area as well. We always
[4:35:33]
tried to look for a connected
[4:35:39]
contiguous network of areas but
[4:35:41]
we have that mostly. Again when
[4:35:43]
this came in didn't have the
[4:35:48]
scope one of the issues was
[4:35:49]
where is this road going to
[4:35:51]
when you see how it fits into
[4:35:54]
the surrounding development it
[4:35:56]
does link to adjacent
[4:35:58]
development this is been around
[4:36:00]
for a while we didn't have the
[4:36:01]
benefit of the aerial of the
[4:36:03]
context of how everything
[4:36:06]
blinks together.
[4:36:08]
We feel the applicant could
[4:36:09]
have changed the layout with
[4:36:11]
this because this might be more
[4:36:12]
of a question for will.
[4:36:13]
We talked about the
[4:36:17]
prioritization of the resources
[4:36:19]
I would rather have will
[4:36:19]
clarify that.
[4:36:23]
>> of course with wetlands
[4:36:24]
there is a process to disturb
[4:36:31]
wetlands it is not through the
[4:36:32]
counties it is through the
[4:36:34]
state and federal permitting.
[4:36:36]
When we see wetlands they serve
[4:36:38]
a purpose in the natural
[4:36:39]
environment would try to
[4:36:41]
minimize or reduce any kind of
[4:36:47]
impact whatsoever.
[4:36:48]
When we see a wetland is going
[4:36:49]
to
[4:36:50]
be disturbed with roads or
[4:36:52]
with some kind of development
[4:36:54]
we always discouraged that in
[4:36:56]
some fashion and try to have a
[4:36:57]
different layout proposed for.
[4:36:59]
>> Yesli Vega: was done here.
[4:37:01]
>> they adjusted it thought
[4:37:02]
maybe they could do more but
[4:37:04]
they did adjust the did listen
[4:37:05]
to our comments.
[4:37:05]
>> Yesli
[4:37:07]
Vega: okay thank you.
[4:37:09]
That's all have MADAM Chair
[4:37:10]
school at all).
[4:37:12]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[4:37:13]
paolo please I just have a
[4:37:15]
quick question about the
[4:37:17]
roundabout.
[4:37:19]
And going back to something
[4:37:20]
supervisor stewart was asking
[4:37:23]
for it on the roundabouts I
[4:37:23]
know it is his traffic is it
[4:37:25]
also there is a couple in my
[4:37:25]
district.
[4:37:32]
In this instance are we on a
[4:37:33]
trend of using roundabouts to
[4:37:35]
ease not only is the traffic
[4:37:38]
but also there's been
[4:37:40]
fatalities that prevent that a
[4:37:41]
little bit more as well.
[4:37:43]
>> Scott Meyer: does
[4:37:45]
roundabouts typically causes
[4:37:49]
you to slow down there is a
[4:37:51]
small pinch point it forces you
[4:37:53]
to slow down as you approach
[4:37:55]
the intersection there is a
[4:37:59]
trend with roundabouts dude
[4:38:01]
need right away in a situation
[4:38:02]
where it is part of a
[4:38:04]
development it does make it
[4:38:05]
easier to implement a
[4:38:07]
roundabout as implement is
[4:38:09]
being provided as part of the
[4:38:10]
improvement.
[4:38:12]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: is
[4:38:13]
more cost-effective.
[4:38:15]
>> long-term has signal prices
[4:38:17]
are going up as well it is a
[4:38:18]
knowledge of how much right
[4:38:20]
away and how much room is
[4:38:22]
available to complete the
[4:38:23]
improvement.
[4:38:24]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[4:38:26]
last question as we progress
[4:38:28]
with the other projects should
[4:38:29]
we expect more.
[4:38:31]
>> at this time only to his
[4:38:32]
being proposed the tool
[4:38:33]
roundabout is part of the
[4:38:35]
entire: the jda would implement
[4:38:37]
the roundabout as part of the
[4:38:39]
one thing but the way the
[4:38:40]
properties are set up it is
[4:38:42]
possible others can occur.
[4:38:43]
The possibility in the proper
[4:38:44]
burden.
[4:38:45]
> George Stewart:
[4:38:51]
this is for scott.
[4:38:52]
When your mention of this in my
[4:38:57]
area plan from last night you
[4:38:59]
said that certain impacts are
[4:39:00]
not known yet and combining
[4:39:03]
that with your lack of
[4:39:06]
information about the impact
[4:39:15]
from schools how can you check
[4:39:16]
this out to say this is
[4:39:18]
something that should be going
[4:39:18]
forward?
[4:39:20]
>> Scott Meyer: our director
[4:39:21]
tonya washington can address
[4:39:24]
that.
[4:39:25]
>> good evening tonya
[4:39:27]
washington rector of the
[4:39:30]
planning office supervisor
[4:39:32]
stewart when the board
[4:39:37]
initiated the vint hill court
[4:39:38]
or small area plan included
[4:39:40]
note to the board of these
[4:39:42]
applications had already been
[4:39:44]
submitted and already under
[4:39:46]
county review that he will
[4:39:47]
likely be most certainly be
[4:39:48]
coming to the board fraction
[4:39:50]
prior to the small area plan
[4:39:54]
being completed small area plan
[4:39:56]
will be focusing on a larger
[4:39:57]
area not just the area covered
[4:40:01]
by these applications given
[4:40:03]
that it will take about two
[4:40:06]
years to complete the small
[4:40:07]
area plan we could not hold out
[4:40:09]
these rezoning applications
[4:40:11]
which are on it when your clock
[4:40:12]
before we could complete the
[4:40:15]
small area plan the focus is to
[4:40:22]
continue to staff review
[4:40:23]
working with supervisor gordy
[4:40:25]
on these applications to
[4:40:34]
ultimately get a product
[4:40:35]
depending upon what happens
[4:40:37]
with the other applications the
[4:40:38]
board can make a decision on
[4:40:40]
with the garlic to the small
[4:40:42]
area plan itself whatever
[4:40:43]
decisions the board ultimately
[4:40:45]
makes almost applications will
[4:40:47]
get folded into the larger
[4:40:48]
analysis for this area. For the
[4:40:50]
small area plan these
[4:40:51]
applications again were
[4:40:53]
submitted quite some time
[4:40:55]
before the small area plan was
[4:40:56]
initiated because they are
[4:40:58]
rezoning applications and for
[4:41:00]
the state code there is a time
[4:41:01]
clock on them we needed to
[4:41:03]
continue to move forward this
[4:41:12]
is somewhat unique situation.
[4:41:13]
Just to the extent we have a
[4:41:15]
small area plan started later
[4:41:17]
we did have to move forward
[4:41:18]
with the review of these
[4:41:19]
applications for.
[4:41:21]
>> George Stewart: I am kind of
[4:41:21]
new.
[4:41:23]
How much time is left on the
[4:41:24]
clock.
[4:41:25]
>> Tanya Washington: or
[4:41:26]
strathmore what is the
[4:41:26]
timeframe?
[4:41:28]
For strathmore when your clock
[4:41:42]
has already passed.
[4:41:43]
[Unclear audio] It was
[4:41:44]
submitted APRIL 2023.
[4:41:46]
>> George Stewart: got you
[4:41:47]
taking more time for smart
[4:41:48]
community
[4:41:49]
input will still have
[4:41:50]
is the past.
[4:41:52]
>> Tanya Washington: I will say
[4:41:55]
for this rezoning application
[4:41:56]
as well as further land-use
[4:41:58]
applications going through the
[4:41:59]
entitlement process the
[4:42:01]
planning office has guidelines
[4:42:06]
that strongly encourage
[4:42:08]
applicants to do community
[4:42:09]
engagement prior to coming to
[4:42:11]
public hearings prior to the
[4:42:13]
planning commission public
[4:42:15]
hearings. This project did go
[4:42:16]
through community engagement
[4:42:18]
I'm sure MR. Patrick can speak
[4:42:26]
to that we do encourage that so
[4:42:27]
the community has an
[4:42:29]
opportunity for the product is
[4:42:30]
still going through the county
[4:42:30]
review
[4:42:32]
to be able to provide
[4:42:34]
their feedback and applicant
[4:42:36]
have the opportunity to make
[4:42:38]
adjustments to those
[4:42:39]
applications prior to starting
[4:42:40]
the formal public review
[4:42:41]
process.
[4:42:42]
>> George Stewart: thank you.
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>> Chair Jefferson: before I
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want to supervisor gordy I want
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to invite the applicant to come
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back up if you can answer
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questions about your community
[4:42:58]
engagement will be up for the
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committee has multiple points
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obviously the applicants do
[4:43:03]
their community town halls
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clearly plan commission meeting
[4:43:07]
for approval given but if you
[4:43:08]
can give us a bit more
[4:43:09]
information about that.
[4:43:11]
Turn on the microphone.
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>> Applicant: thank you for
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asking the question. We had
[4:43:16]
three community engagement
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efforts on this property we did
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one that was all mine which was
[4:43:21]
reasonably well attended we
[4:43:22]
also had two other open house
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type community engagement
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sessions we notified within 1
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mile of this property we had
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sent out 4000 notices two
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different property owners.
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There was a great deal of very
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expensive notice to the
[4:43:37]
community and opportunities to
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participate this is in addition
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to the notices because he sends
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out when an application is
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first filed then for the
[4:43:45]
planning commission public
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hearings and also for the
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meeting this evening.
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>> Chair Jefferson: just a note
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after we go through the
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questions for the applicant and
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for the county staff will open
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the public hearings that is
[4:44:01]
another time to hear from
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people. That's all I have I
[4:44:04]
will go to supervisor gordy
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speak I will note onto that
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this application we tapped the
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brakes on it many times much to
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the angst I would say of the
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applicant because I want to get
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a holistic plan done they were
[4:44:26]
patient and actually
[4:44:27]
contributed I would say
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[Listing names] Did tremendous
[4:44:36]
amount of work in studying and
[4:44:38]
analyzing what was going on
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with the schools we have three
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elementary schools that are
[4:44:47]
closer to this development than
[4:44:49]
the one that they are zoned to.
[4:44:50]
All under capacity.
[4:44:50]
N one of
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the schools had to cancel
[4:44:53]
programs because of the lack of
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enrollment.
[4:45:06]
Within their schools t claims
[4:45:08]
would cost their drama program
[4:45:09]
which they were noted for
[4:45:11]
because they don't have enough
[4:45:12]
students to fund the programs
[4:45:14]
we already seen the community
[4:45:16]
in this area aging our schools
[4:45:17]
are losing enrollment.
[4:45:19]
We are seeing yet we know that
[4:45:21]
there is capacity as the school
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system has continued I've had
[4:45:24]
from day one I've had meetings
[4:45:29]
with superintendent Mcdade with
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cheryl latif with my own school
[4:45:32]
board member and other school
[4:45:34]
board members to talk about how
[4:45:35]
the way we analyze schools
[4:45:37]
during a planning process in my
[4:45:39]
view has been broken.
[4:45:41]
When we take these developments
[4:45:57]
in isolation you can have one
[4:45:59]
development that you take it
[4:46:01]
one time they will save this
[4:46:03]
development will put the
[4:46:05]
schools over capacity then of
[4:46:06]
four months later we can have
[4:46:08]
another development impacting
[4:46:10]
the same exact schools and they
[4:46:11]
can say there is no impact.
[4:46:13]
Because we don't take a
[4:46:14]
holistic look at what's
[4:46:16]
happening in the environment
[4:46:17]
they've agreed to take that
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holistic look and say it is not
[4:46:21]
just about what my development
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is doing but it is about what
[4:46:25]
my department is doing along
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with everything else they don't
[4:46:28]
have to do this.
[4:46:30]
They did not have to do this at
[4:46:32]
all. They willingly did it at
[4:46:33]
my request so we could take a
[4:46:35]
better approach to development
[4:46:37]
and understanding and
[4:46:39]
mitigating the impact of these
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developments potentially would
[4:46:43]
have on our community. Then on
[4:46:44]
transportation as well.
[4:46:46]
I've asked them to maintain
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moral character.
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Give us a design along vint
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hill that is seamless it is
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every development of the same
[4:46:53]
design putting the traffic
[4:46:55]
circles it maintains several
[4:46:57]
character does not bring up the
[4:46:58]
flashing lights he doesn't have
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all those things it helps us to
[4:47:02]
maintain the rural character
[4:47:04]
along different recorder pro as
[4:47:06]
we've gone through this process
[4:47:08]
to understanding the impact on
[4:47:10]
the schools and the impact on
[4:47:12]
the world was and how this will
[4:47:14]
work together who tried to look
[4:47:15]
at this from a bigger picture
[4:47:17]
more contextual approach rather
[4:47:19]
than just taking each and every
[4:47:21]
case in isolation because as I
[4:47:23]
said earlier the whole is
[4:47:24]
greater than the sum of the
[4:47:25]
parts.
[4:47:26]
That is something to see happen
[4:47:28]
over and over again throughout
[4:47:31]
the county but never changed
[4:47:32]
our practices to get better at
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it. To better mitigate against
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separate I appreciate all the
[4:47:37]
questions my colleagues scared
[4:47:39]
I will save the one accident
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they could tell you that we had
[4:47:52]
at owl nest that was caused
[4:47:54]
because the view was blocked by
[4:47:56]
construction equipment
[4:47:58]
replacement waterlines for the
[4:47:59]
city of manassas. They had at
[4:48:01]
the corner blocked and the
[4:48:03]
driver literally cannot see the
[4:48:05]
truck that was coming up vint
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hill road the vehicles the
[4:48:09]
construction vehicles blinded
[4:48:10]
the intersection that is what
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caused that.
[4:48:13]
Other than that what this will
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do right now the speed limit
[4:48:16]
elders 50 mph I can tell you
[4:48:17]
nine times out of 10 I'm going
[4:48:19]
45 or slower. Because people
[4:48:21]
are just driving slower out
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there.
[4:48:23]
Nonetheless we are looking at
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trying to make this a world a
[4:48:26]
safer and addressing the
[4:48:33]
impacts of the potential
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developments in the area.
[4:48:36]
That's all I have for now MADAM
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Chair school and don't have
[4:48:39]
anyone else in the queue what
[4:48:41]
I'm going to do thank you so
[4:48:42]
very much I am going to if we
[4:48:43]
can get the sheets I am going
[4:48:45]
to open the public hearing for
[4:48:47]
agenda item 13 a I'm waiting to
[4:48:54]
get the sheets.
[4:48:55]
I do have you can go to the
[4:48:57]
back I do have throughout the
[4:48:58]
sign-up we will go through the
[4:49:00]
walls with you guys you have
[4:49:02]
three minutes to speak. Unless
[4:49:04]
you are an approved 501(C)(3)
[4:49:06]
Or something recognized by the
[4:49:08]
board when you go to the back
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please state your name and
[4:49:14]
where to reside which
[4:49:16]
magisterial district you reside
[4:49:18]
you will go over there to the
[4:49:23]
microphone with the pink
[4:49:24]
microphone and make sure that
[4:49:26]
you have it close to you so we
[4:49:28]
can hear you. That is a common
[4:49:34]
concern that I have.
[4:49:35]
No other people are signing up
[4:49:36]
we will
[4:49:37]
get to them I will start
[4:49:38]
with.
[4:49:39]
[Listing names]
[4:50:16]
>> you start screwing are you
[4:50:17]
ready to begin.
[4:50:20]
>> I'm trying to compose my
[4:50:21]
notes please give me a minute.
[4:50:25]
>> Chair Jefferson: if you need
[4:50:26]
additional time I can call the
[4:50:28]
next speakers.
[4:50:29]
>> please.
[4:50:31]
>> Chair Jefferson: we will get
[4:50:36]
the sheets.
[4:50:42]
[Listing names] Amy crosby
[4:50:43]
[Listing names] If you can go
[4:50:45]
to the back again state your
[4:50:46]
name where you generally
[4:50:48]
reside.
[4:50:50]
We needed for the public
[4:50:57]
record.
[4:50:59]
Good evening is my first time
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attending my name is amy crosby
[4:51:01]
11.
[4:51:05]
[Listing names] My son attends
[4:51:07]
t claim would it is great
[4:51:09]
congratulations stuart as I
[4:51:10]
read some of your stuff today
[4:51:12]
to prepare myself MR. Gordy
[4:51:14]
would be my district as follows
[4:51:16]
being in brentsville. I've been
[4:51:18]
a resident almost 5 years I've
[4:51:22]
done a lot of planning
[4:51:24]
commission meetings but not in
[4:51:26]
the state my ex-husband is a
[4:51:27]
former military very familiar
[4:51:29]
with a lot of the things that
[4:51:33]
happen in indiana. You guys
[4:51:35]
don't mind I will read off the
[4:51:37]
notes I've been planning I only
[4:51:38]
get three minutes the weight
[4:51:40]
kind of put some things out
[4:51:41]
there if that's okay.
[4:51:43]
First of all it is really good
[4:51:44]
to know there are seven
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different things because I
[4:51:48]
don't think I realized that in
[4:51:49]
my head. For the utilities how
[4:51:51]
will this endowment add to the
[4:51:54]
newly overloaded grid in
[4:51:57]
conjunction with all the data
[4:51:59]
centers that are coming along?
[4:51:59]
Secondly the
[4:52:01]
schools I already
[4:52:03]
own this question it was what
[4:52:04]
elementary school to his feet
[4:52:07]
into t claim would I sort.
[4:52:08]
[Listing names] Would go into t
[4:52:09]
claim would when gentleman said
[4:52:12]
we are under capacity in our
[4:52:13]
schools I didn't know that I
[4:52:14]
have 1/5 grader and letter to
[4:52:16]
clay would we did lose the
[4:52:17]
drama program I did not know it
[4:52:19]
was because it was under there
[4:52:31]
was under enrollment second
[4:52:33]
thing if the timeline can't do
[4:52:35]
notes on your timeline for the
[4:52:36]
rezoning in a planning
[4:52:38]
commission when I change that
[4:52:39]
ordinance as you noted it was
[4:52:41]
two years already in the making
[4:52:43]
but couldn't go ahead and
[4:52:45]
accommodate these different
[4:52:49]
things I felt there was counter
[4:52:51]
intuitive the roads. Vint hill
[4:52:53]
road before you get there
[4:52:54]
mullins ford it's a nightmare
[4:52:56]
it's very sharp curves it is
[4:52:58]
tulane's MR. Gordy who said he
[4:53:00]
go under 50 in that area I can
[4:53:02]
promise you at night people are
[4:53:04]
going over 60 miles an hour in
[4:53:06]
that area because it is so dark
[4:53:08]
there's no streetlights I also
[4:53:09]
was thinking with her ever be
[4:53:11]
any eminent domain to connect
[4:53:13]
to either glenn kirk or rollins
[4:53:15]
sport a different way because
[4:53:17]
of fraud run over which my
[4:53:18]
house except to plug and
[4:53:20]
pervert on solitary efforts the
[4:53:22]
connection if you look at play
[4:53:24]
more it's an award-winning
[4:53:25]
subdivision I've only been
[4:53:27]
there for years you can connect
[4:53:29]
at several different places you
[4:53:30]
can connect at vint hill you
[4:53:32]
can connect the linden hall
[4:53:34]
those connections make other
[4:53:36]
connections to glenn kirk to
[4:53:37]
rollins sport that gives a lot
[4:53:39]
of other ways to go around
[4:53:41]
anyways just thinking of that.
[4:53:43]
I was wondering about eminent
[4:53:45]
domain you have to think about.
[4:53:46]
[Listing names] How many homes
[4:53:48]
are expected microphone and
[4:53:53]
said that teaching staff the
[4:53:54]
shortage equals more teachers
[4:53:57]
how do you plan to accommodate
[4:53:58]
staffing for those teachers
[4:54:00]
that might be why the
[4:54:01]
elementary schools are under
[4:54:03]
filled is because there MAY not
[4:54:04]
be seven effort for that which
[4:54:07]
did see some rezoning which I
[4:54:08]
thought was good at last one
[4:54:10]
was utility what is the current
[4:54:11]
load capacity.
[4:54:13]
>> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry I
[4:54:15]
know you have a lot but frankly
[4:54:16]
next speaker please.
[4:54:21]
>> I'm angela klein I'm from
[4:54:22]
brentsville as well as seen
[4:54:24]
most of the congratulations
[4:54:25]
supervisor stuart on being part
[4:54:35]
of the board I'm here asking to
[4:54:36]
deny order for this draft
[4:54:38]
rezoning application
[4:54:39]
development in the rural areas
[4:54:42]
will require substantially more
[4:54:44]
for structure improvements
[4:54:45]
including but not limited to
[4:54:47]
the transportation as was
[4:54:49]
alluded to on vint hill road
[4:54:50]
another connecting roads and
[4:54:52]
the proffers offered them I
[4:54:54]
reviewed the applicant or
[4:54:56]
inadequate to confidential sure
[4:54:57]
needs understand a lot of
[4:54:58]
planning has gone to this I
[4:55:00]
just don't think it equates to
[4:55:04]
what we see on a daily basis.
[4:55:06]
Their meeting last night the
[4:55:08]
others refer to the peremptory
[4:55:09]
small area plan was clearly
[4:55:11]
attended I think the committee
[4:55:13]
should out for that it was well
[4:55:15]
received I think it offers the
[4:55:17]
county of the applicant to plan
[4:55:18]
thoughtfully and intentionally
[4:55:20]
by taking a holistic approach
[4:55:22]
to the entire nvrc corridor
[4:55:23]
when we think of q of the
[4:55:25]
infrastructure then needs and
[4:55:27]
the fragile watersheds and
[4:55:28]
natural resources for
[4:55:30]
conservation by approving
[4:55:32]
strathmore application
[4:55:34]
residents will save the county
[4:55:36]
and the supervisor approving a
[4:55:38]
developer-based vision for the
[4:55:40]
vint hill corridor and wonder
[4:55:42]
why we had been had a kickoff
[4:55:44]
meeting for the vint hill
[4:55:45]
quarter meeting this area and
[4:55:47]
what the applicants are
[4:55:49]
strathmore applicant than
[4:55:51]
others along the vint hill
[4:55:52]
quarter are asking for rezoning
[4:55:54]
is a big part of the event till
[4:55:56]
vint hill corridor small area
[4:55:57]
plan I don't see how that can
[4:56:05]
be part of the equation as well
[4:56:06]
vint hill thought most about
[4:56:08]
the roads vint hill is
[4:56:10]
currently a two-lane road we
[4:56:12]
see a lot of speeders just as
[4:56:13]
the neighbor alluded to in
[4:56:15]
there I live on salish drive
[4:56:19]
across from owls nest we
[4:56:20]
mentioned that road was going
[4:56:22]
to get relined in roundabout
[4:56:24]
would be put there we got the
[4:56:26]
police on a nightly basis
[4:56:27]
because people like to use vint
[4:56:29]
hill as a drag race we are in
[4:56:31]
favor of the roundabout but
[4:56:32]
traffic is expected to increase
[4:56:34]
to approximately 22,000 trips
[4:56:36]
along vint hill road which
[4:56:38]
currently sees about 11,000
[4:56:40]
daily trips I'm using just the
[4:56:42]
applicant's estimate of 9.583
[4:56:43]
daily trips. It's important for
[4:56:45]
you to understand as residents
[4:56:47]
of that road it takes about
[4:56:48]
15-20 minutes every morning for
[4:56:50]
us to get onto vint hill road
[4:56:51]
because of the traffic and
[4:56:53]
another 20-30 minutes for us to
[4:56:57]
go from rollins poured onto
[4:56:58]
linton hall if you want to go
[4:57:00]
to 66 just in the waiting times
[4:57:02]
given the current density. I'd
[4:57:04]
really like to see a lot more
[4:57:06]
attention to vint hill road
[4:57:07]
understanding right now going
[4:57:09]
from four lanes counted
[4:57:10]
tulane's willie is called a
[4:57:12]
bottleneck that area given who
[4:57:18]
is already out there and what
[4:57:20]
we are going to eventually see
[4:57:22]
growth no matter if it is this
[4:57:23]
application or others thank
[4:57:24]
you.
[4:57:25]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[4:57:26]
next speaker please.
[4:57:31]
>> good evening everyone my
[4:57:32]
name is.
[4:57:35]
[Listing names] And from that
[4:57:36]
ketchup and part of the
[4:57:38]
gainesville district mutual
[4:57:40]
encouragement newly elected
[4:57:42]
supervisor possibly overwhelmed
[4:57:43]
supervisor to vote in favor of
[4:57:45]
the strathmore project and
[4:57:51]
supervisor gordy district 1st
[4:57:53]
formal supervisor gordy
[4:57:55]
supports this project as the
[4:57:57]
elected representative for
[4:57:59]
their principal district no one
[4:58:00]
knows the interest and the
[4:58:02]
needs of the district better
[4:58:07]
than supervisor gordy for the
[4:58:09]
more black petition many of the
[4:58:11]
democrats and the board will be
[4:58:13]
crossing the political islands
[4:58:15]
according supervisor gordy's
[4:58:16]
efforts to improve his district
[4:58:18]
with this development project
[4:58:20]
this is a classic opportunity
[4:58:22]
for the board to provide good
[4:58:25]
bipartisan government about the
[4:58:38]
beach and a packet think the
[4:58:40]
proper is also eligible to sell
[4:58:43]
the staff support additionally
[4:58:44]
it's important not to overlook
[4:58:46]
the interest of the current
[4:58:48]
landowners many in our county
[4:58:50]
uncertain as to help they would
[4:58:52]
support their children's higher
[4:58:54]
education or have a secure
[4:58:55]
retirement when the top suites
[4:58:57]
constituents can achieve those
[4:58:58]
goals by exercising the private
[4:59:00]
property rights to sell the
[4:59:02]
properties to developers clinic
[4:59:03]
supervisors for to get the
[4:59:05]
project devoted not those
[4:59:06]
constituents that private
[4:59:08]
property rights in the night
[4:59:10]
his constituents the ability to
[4:59:12]
accomplish is very personal and
[4:59:14]
important life goals.
[4:59:15]
Sometimes opposing the project
[4:59:17]
is the right thing to do and be
[4:59:20]
very skeptical of permitting a
[4:59:22]
plastics factory which are
[4:59:24]
industries known to chemicals
[4:59:25]
to waterways but this product
[4:59:27]
like the majority does not pose
[4:59:29]
significant harm to our
[4:59:31]
community although there will
[4:59:32]
be people with small change in
[4:59:34]
MISS How things once were along
[4:59:36]
for the past cannot come at the
[4:59:38]
expense of our future we also
[4:59:39]
need to understand that
[4:59:41]
perfection is something that is
[4:59:43]
worth pursuing but is not a
[4:59:45]
standard that we hold because
[4:59:46]
if we do we won't be voting on
[4:59:48]
any project ever because
[4:59:49]
nothing is ever going to be
[4:59:51]
perfect when it comes to us.
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Supervisor stuart is a
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constituent navigated vote if
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you you have my support in
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voting in favor of this project
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thank you all for your time and
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service to our community for
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elected officials and the staff
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we all deal with a lot of
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difficult people and certainly
[5:00:08]
appreciated thank you all so
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much.
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>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
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and ms Mcvary ready to speak.
[5:00:13]
>> I was here in APRIL of the
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planning commission for the
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first planning commission
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hearing for I came back for
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negative referral they brought
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nothing new to the table the
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applicant I recommend denial
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because they brought nothing
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forth after 90 days to increase
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transportation other than a
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traffic circle at the point of
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pioneer drive they have not
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whether it is 15,000 per unit
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the road has been putting first
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they made no contribution to
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read and think of the road
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filled of elements.
[5:00:43]
MR. Patrick, once again talking
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to apollo in transportation the
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road needs to be put in before
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the infrastructure I saw this
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happen 45 years ago and brooke
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senator hazel did not build the
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parkway it cost me $2 million
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of taxpayer money 20 years
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later to do it the road vint
[5:00:58]
hill cannot go from four lanes
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to two lanes and schaefer
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factor four lanes from cattle
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run to simply drive two lanes
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down it was supposed to be from
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[Listing names] [Unclear audio]
[5:01:13]
as you go from four lanes from
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reed street [Listing names]
[5:01:17]
[Unclear audio] As you go from
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four lanes from reed st., tampa
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mile it goes back to two lanes
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then it becomes four lanes from
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the side of tranmere at the
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traffic circle all the way down
[5:01:32]
to silas which is only almost
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9/10 of a mile. Then stanley
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once said michael joe biden
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vint hill from owls nest down
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to rollins we will widen the
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curve. The canticle 4 lanes
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counted tulane's counterpoints
[5:01:52]
counted tulane and have nothing
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but bottleneck grid brookville
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775 is not enough to put 15,000
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cars a day on a
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two-lane/four-lane road and
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congested with traffic circles
[5:02:08]
so there's no floor traffic
[5:02:10]
movement there is no flow of
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traffic it will become pure
[5:02:12]
gridlock and go to hell her on
[5:02:14]
owls nest has had one fidelity
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I've been there 22 years event
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with one fidelity they had two
[5:02:22]
motorcycle accidents in last
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year two car accidents with a
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flipped over the hill I might
[5:02:33]
cars address they are spitting
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on owls nest right when I come
[5:02:37]
out of my driveway there's been
[5:02:39]
one fidelity. Two major
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motorcycle injuries and two
[5:02:42]
cars that you got the
[5:02:43]
neighbor's fence.
[5:02:44]
The three people that were
[5:02:46]
injured were my neighbors.
[5:02:47]
Very prominent old-school
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family golf family that is been
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in the community for 70 years
[5:02:53]
and one son is so injured he
[5:02:55]
cannot work is on worker's
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compensation he is to get
[5:02:57]
surgery he will have to have
[5:02:58]
litigation
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>> Chair Jefferson: I'm sorry
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your times up can you say your
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name and the magisterial
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district where you are for the
[5:03:09]
record
[5:03:10]
>> my name is paul short I
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limit brentsville magisterial
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district 42490 owls nest road
[5:03:20]
can I have a additional
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minutes.
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>> Chair Jefferson: what I will
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do next is go to promote public
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comment on that I was getting
[5:03:27]
additional
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questions supervisor
[5:03:31]
bailey I will toss to for the
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public hearing.
[5:03:34]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
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have three people are we ready
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for
[5:03:37]
our guests.
[5:03:40]
[Unclear audio]
[5:03:50]
>> good evening chair jefferson
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and the board of supervisors
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might name is jessica girl I'm
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in the gainesville district I
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would like five minutes with
[5:04:02]
the coalition to protect prince
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william county on this one.
[5:04:09]
Stevie I'm sorry you have three
[5:04:15]
minutes.
[5:04:17]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: I
[5:04:18]
am sorry you have three
[5:04:19]
minutes.
[5:04:21]
>> Chair Jefferson: are you a
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representative of the coalition
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to
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>> I'm in the board of the
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coalition to protect prince
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william county.
[5:04:32]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
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please continue with your five
[5:04:36]
minutes I didn't hear you.
[5:04:38]
>> I would like to ask you guys
[5:04:39]
to defer or deny this project I
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was looking through the proper
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statement for page 21 of 26 of
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the strathmore proposal on
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section I it says in the domain
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in the event of the applicant
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is not able to acquire
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right-of-way required in order
[5:05:16]
to provide the road
[5:05:18]
improvements identified in
[5:05:19]
proffer conditions above for
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clothes and associated
[5:05:23]
pedestrian facilities
[5:05:24]
identified in the comprehensive
[5:05:26]
plan including but not limited
[5:05:28]
to easement required for
[5:05:30]
utilities utilities locations
[5:05:31]
grading and storm water
[5:05:33]
management for the road
[5:05:34]
improvements and any other
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property interests the
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applicant shall request the
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county to acquire the necessary
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property interest by exercising
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of its condemnation powers at
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the applicant's expense. The
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applicant request shall be in
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riding and shall comply and be
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in respect with the eminent
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domain policy this sounds to me
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like they have purchased a
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piece of land they don't have
[5:05:55]
enough room to do what they
[5:05:57]
want to do they are going to
[5:05:58]
take more land of hebron
[5:06:00]
property I think is kind of
[5:06:01]
despicable to think that
[5:06:03]
anybody would vote in favor and
[5:06:10]
without and destroy established
[5:06:12]
labor to put in infrastructure
[5:06:14]
for a new housing department is
[5:06:17]
not very neighborly also I sent
[5:06:18]
everybody an email today I
[5:06:29]
would like to read hopefully I
[5:06:30]
will get through it welcome
[5:06:32]
supervisor stuart I really look
[5:06:34]
forward to having
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representation in gainesville
[5:06:37]
again who is willing to listen
[5:06:39]
to the residence last night I
[5:06:41]
saw you at the small area plan
[5:06:43]
for vint hill I'm really
[5:06:44]
confused I feel the cats have
[5:06:46]
been let out of the barn if you
[5:06:47]
approve this project will not
[5:06:49]
be able to put them back in
[5:06:51]
what is the plan here?
[5:06:52]
Are you just getting community
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outreach danny going to say
[5:06:55]
your opinion did not matter
[5:06:56]
there were a lot of people
[5:06:58]
there last night were worried
[5:07:02]
about their community I feel if
[5:07:04]
you do approve this plan
[5:07:05]
tonight you owe everybody an
[5:07:07]
email who attended last night
[5:07:09]
to say that you are sorry that
[5:07:10]
you wasted their time and that
[5:07:12]
their opinion really did not
[5:07:16]
matter in any case. In western
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and of prince william county
[5:07:19]
have been talking about the
[5:07:25]
reinvestment I think this plan
[5:07:27]
needs to be implement citizens
[5:07:28]
possible design density housing
[5:07:30]
in these rural areas is
[5:07:31]
detrimental to the residents
[5:07:33]
and mourners who have invested
[5:07:36]
so much into their community
[5:07:37]
only to have it plowed over and
[5:07:39]
impacts their quality of life
[5:07:40]
that they have worked so hard
[5:07:43]
to develop some help this is
[5:07:44]
nothing fair especially if the
[5:07:45]
new development impacts things
[5:07:47]
like road schools and their
[5:07:49]
wells adding 2000 houses is
[5:07:50]
going to bring a lot of school
[5:07:52]
age children and how will that
[5:07:54]
affect the traffic in the area
[5:08:01]
as well as the schools in the
[5:08:03]
classroom especially since
[5:08:04]
multiple schools are slated to
[5:08:07]
be overcapacity right from the
[5:08:08]
same time to small area plan
[5:08:12]
would be due. Which would be
[5:08:13]
spending two more years trying
[5:08:15]
to figure out where he will
[5:08:16]
send the kids. Then I came
[5:08:18]
across two very interesting
[5:08:20]
pieces of information this week
[5:08:21]
one from dep with virginia
[5:08:23]
trout monitoring task force
[5:08:30]
they have expended the drought
[5:08:32]
advisory to 50 counties and 23
[5:08:34]
cities prince william county is
[5:08:36]
included in this all origin is
[5:08:38]
encouraged to protect water
[5:08:40]
supply by minimizing water use
[5:08:41]
and monitoring drought
[5:08:43]
conditions how is that water
[5:08:45]
study coming in prince william
[5:08:46]
county are you guys prepared to
[5:08:48]
pay for people's wells that are
[5:08:51]
affected by this?
[5:08:52]
Another piece of news cannot
[5:08:54]
from nbc washington according
[5:08:57]
to a report from the national
[5:08:58]
association of realtors
[5:09:00]
first-time homebuyers are
[5:09:01]
putting in average of 10% down
[5:09:03]
and most of them are getting
[5:09:05]
loans from family or friends
[5:09:07]
the average first-time
[5:09:09]
homebuyer is now four years old
[5:09:11]
all-time high the national
[5:09:13]
association of realtors says an
[5:09:15]
economist says you need
[5:09:16]
household income of about
[5:09:17]
$300,000 if you want to
[5:09:19]
purchase a single-family
[5:09:20]
detached home in northern
[5:09:22]
virginia. It seems to me that
[5:09:23]
times are changing and that
[5:09:25]
prince william county is again
[5:09:27]
behind the ball. Please defer
[5:09:28]
denied this project until
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adequate proffers and or
[5:09:32]
decreased density are in place.
[5:09:33]
Thank you very much.
[5:09:34]
>> Chair Jefferson:
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>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:09:38]
thank you MISS Growth.
[5:09:39]
>> the second speakers are
[5:09:40]
smacked.
[5:09:41]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:09:43]
MS. Carol please begin.
[5:09:47]
>> MS. Carol you can begin.
[5:09:47]
>>.
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[Listing names] I would like to
[5:09:55]
request five minutes of.
[5:10:01]
[Listing names] I live in
[5:10:03]
principal as you all know
[5:10:04]
welcome supervisor stuart I
[5:10:06]
actually live along vint hill
[5:10:08]
road owls nest is my point of
[5:10:12]
access into the world how I get
[5:10:19]
around.
[5:10:21]
I traversed this area very
[5:10:22]
regularly. What I heard tonight
[5:10:24]
was a discussion of a lot of
[5:10:25]
things around about adele's
[5:10:31]
best fire station land for fire
[5:10:33]
station land for middle school
[5:10:34]
the curve on the vint hill road
[5:10:36]
and how that is going to be
[5:10:37]
addressed.
[5:10:38]
Let's be clear those are not
[5:10:40]
proffers associated with this
[5:10:41]
application.
[5:10:43]
I heard a lot of discussion of
[5:10:44]
proffers and mitigation and
[5:10:50]
what other projects are doing
[5:10:51]
my understanding is that you
[5:10:53]
all are not allowed to discuss
[5:10:55]
any proffers that commit board
[5:10:57]
to future vote I pulled the
[5:10:58]
zoning ordinance while I was
[5:11:11]
listening to all. It is pretty
[5:11:12]
clear is pretty explicit only
[5:11:14]
those written and graphic
[5:11:15]
materials that have been
[5:11:16]
referenced in a proper
[5:11:18]
statement MAY be displayed in
[5:11:19]
the public hearing before the
[5:11:21]
planning commission or the
[5:11:22]
board of county supervisors why
[5:11:25]
are we really discussing this
[5:11:27]
year we're discussing
[5:11:29]
strathmore a standalone
[5:11:33]
application we are discussing
[5:11:35]
strathmore's impacts on schools
[5:11:37]
strathmore's impacts on roads.
[5:11:39]
Strathmore's impact on our
[5:11:40]
natural resources like the
[5:11:42]
watershed like our fire
[5:11:43]
department our parks our
[5:11:44]
libraries and I appreciate what
[5:11:51]
the applicant has done with
[5:11:53]
their master plan. I want to
[5:11:55]
just the developer and the
[5:11:56]
master plan I was a little
[5:11:58]
confused again this was brought
[5:12:00]
up tonight. So I went in and
[5:12:01]
pulled it well and listen to
[5:12:03]
all speak it was submitted on
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APRIL 22, 2025.
[5:12:05]
Over six months ago. Over six
[5:12:07]
months ago before the committee
[5:12:09]
meeting before the planning
[5:12:11]
commission hearings. Before the
[5:12:15]
small area plan kickoff. None
[5:12:16]
of four silver bell which the
[5:12:18]
applicant acknowledged was only
[5:12:20]
submitted about six weeks ago.
[5:12:21]
Silver bell is not even in
[5:12:23]
there in a comprehensive
[5:12:24]
manner. I'm a little confused
[5:12:26]
by this developer master plan
[5:12:28]
is now being held up as the
[5:12:29]
plan for the vint hill area.
[5:12:31]
In the vint hill quarter when
[5:12:33]
last night my family we raised
[5:12:34]
our schedule so my husband
[5:12:36]
could take the time to be at a
[5:12:46]
vint hill small area kickoff
[5:12:48]
meeting I thought that was the
[5:12:50]
plan I'm confused is this the
[5:12:51]
community driven process to
[5:12:53]
develop at this area or is this
[5:12:54]
the developer driven process
[5:12:56]
when I hear about this
[5:12:58]
developer master plan that
[5:12:59]
butler was never presented to
[5:13:01]
the community it was never
[5:13:02]
presented to the community was
[5:13:04]
there a committee meeting for
[5:13:06]
the developer master plan?
[5:13:08]
There was a community meeting
[5:13:10]
for strathmore there was a
[5:13:11]
committee meeting for stella
[5:13:13]
martin project and a committee
[5:13:14]
meeting for cheryl resource
[5:13:16]
probably I would say what about
[5:13:17]
the traffic on the owls nest
[5:13:19]
they said we not deal with owls
[5:13:21]
nest we are strathmore senegal
[5:13:23]
to save product he says we are
[5:13:25]
not dealing with owls nest we
[5:13:26]
are on the other side of the
[5:13:28]
road than I go to the spec says
[5:13:30]
we are that owls nest will not
[5:13:32]
bring the density the community
[5:13:34]
is not getting a fair answer
[5:13:35]
then I'm expected to sit here
[5:13:37]
and save the developer master
[5:13:39]
plan has it all figured out the
[5:13:41]
schools the road the fire
[5:13:42]
department all of it let's be
[5:13:44]
clear what is proffered from
[5:13:46]
strathmore is less than $1
[5:13:47]
million per schools it is less
[5:13:48]
then $700,000 for parks.
[5:13:50]
It is way less the matt forte
[5:13:51]
higher.
[5:13:56]
I'm a little confused if we are
[5:13:57]
at a school board registering
[5:13:59]
meeting or a board of county
[5:14:01]
supervisors hearing because
[5:14:02]
when you're sean patrick
[5:14:04]
telling me for all these kids
[5:14:05]
in the area going to go to
[5:14:07]
school I have concerns because
[5:14:09]
I did not vote for sean patrick
[5:14:11]
my ballot for school board or
[5:14:12]
board of county supervisors
[5:14:14]
county chair I do appreciate
[5:14:16]
supervisor stuart bring up the
[5:14:18]
fatality and owls nest I was at
[5:14:20]
that fatality within 10 minutes
[5:14:22]
of happening with my kids in
[5:14:23]
the car it was horrific.
[5:14:25]
It was because of construction
[5:14:33]
supervisor gordy is correct but
[5:14:35]
there have been other accidents
[5:14:36]
right in front of the house
[5:14:38]
multiple accidents people being
[5:14:40]
branded motorcycles a few weeks
[5:14:42]
later our table and
[5:14:43]
internetworking out there was
[5:14:45]
an accident the cut the cable
[5:14:47]
it is not just because of one
[5:14:48]
person speeding or when
[5:14:50]
construction there is a real
[5:14:52]
problem in this area and adding
[5:14:53]
density while I'm supportive of
[5:14:55]
the roundabout and supportive
[5:14:58]
of traffic improvements but
[5:15:00]
adding density and not properly
[5:15:02]
planning that is not a partisan
[5:15:03]
issue you do not have the
[5:15:05]
another set of any aisle to
[5:15:06]
understand that poor planning
[5:15:08]
is poor planning and the people
[5:15:10]
that suffer are the people who
[5:15:12]
live in the area. I appreciate
[5:15:13]
that MR. Patrick sent out
[5:15:16]
mailers people within a 1 mile
[5:15:17]
radius when I see that he is
[5:15:19]
now talking about mitigation
[5:15:21]
along the road along a 4 mile
[5:15:23]
span of road brought all those
[5:15:24]
people on that road century
[5:15:24]
mailers MR.
[5:15:26]
Patrick I don't
[5:15:27]
think so I did not get one.
[5:15:29]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:15:30]
MS. Carol next speaker please.
[5:15:32]
>> there are no more speakers.
[5:15:34]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:15:36]
that includes the speakers for
[5:15:37]
the evening.
[5:15:39]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:15:41]
so very much. I'm going to go
[5:15:42]
ahead unless there is anybody
[5:15:44]
else wants to speak if you have
[5:15:46]
not spoken I don't see anybody
[5:15:47]
I will go ahead and close the
[5:15:49]
public hearing for agenda item
[5:15:51]
number 13 ai would like to have
[5:15:51]
either the
[5:15:53]
applicant if there's
[5:15:55]
anything you want to respond to
[5:15:56]
I've closed the public hearing
[5:15:57]
did you have?
[5:15:59]
I'm so sorry how this is with
[5:16:01]
the public hearing everyone
[5:16:02]
gets a chance to speak once.
[5:16:04]
Unless you are with an approved
[5:16:08]
hoa one c3 then you get five
[5:16:10]
minutes otherwise everybody is
[5:16:17]
limited to three minutes.
[5:16:19]
It is so we can move the
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meeting along. What I'm doing
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and allowing the applicant to
[5:16:24]
come back up and respond to any
[5:16:26]
questions or anything that he
[5:16:28]
or she is hard for it does how
[5:16:30]
the rules work. I'm sorry but I
[5:16:31]
do appreciate you for coming
[5:16:33]
out today MR. Patrick the guy
[5:16:34]
with two last names.
[5:16:39]
>> Applicant: thank you very
[5:16:41]
much for the opportunity?
[5:16:43]
And comment on things that were
[5:16:45]
raised I will go to these
[5:16:47]
quickly as they were fred tried
[5:16:49]
to give you some additional
[5:16:50]
perspective on some of these
[5:16:52]
there was a comment about the
[5:16:53]
small area plan and the timing
[5:16:55]
of the small area plan while it
[5:16:57]
is not ideal for small area
[5:16:59]
plan was conceptualized and
[5:17:01]
initiated after these rezoning
[5:17:04]
applications were filed it is
[5:17:08]
not incongruous the small area
[5:17:10]
plan will continue to have a
[5:17:11]
very important purpose. In
[5:17:13]
looking at the remaining
[5:17:16]
properties and for the
[5:17:18]
different infrastructure
[5:17:20]
decisions that are going to be
[5:17:21]
made for this area in the
[5:17:24]
future.
[5:17:26]
As the planning director said
[5:17:27]
small area plan will cover a
[5:17:33]
much larger area as well.
[5:17:34]
If you look at the map I don't
[5:17:36]
have it on the screen now if
[5:17:37]
you look at the map and you
[5:17:39]
look at the seven rezoning
[5:17:40]
applications that are being
[5:17:42]
discussed this evening in the
[5:17:44]
context of our one our 155 acre
[5:17:47]
rezoning application there is
[5:17:50]
quite a bit of land left and
[5:17:52]
there would be we've had a
[5:17:54]
little operation because of the
[5:17:55]
three developers involved in
[5:17:57]
this article or case the small
[5:17:58]
area plan will assure the
[5:18:03]
continued cooperation and
[5:18:04]
consistency of future
[5:18:06]
applications that you would
[5:18:07]
receive in this area. With
[5:18:09]
respect to the amount of
[5:18:10]
traffic on vint hill road vint
[5:18:12]
hill road after the development
[5:18:14]
after the traffic impact
[5:18:16]
analysis was completed which
[5:18:17]
added traffic from this
[5:18:19]
proposal has about a 30% pass
[5:18:20]
through traffic on it that is
[5:18:35]
traffic that is coming from
[5:18:36]
vulture county or other
[5:18:38]
pointing going into prince
[5:18:39]
william county and
[5:18:40]
back-and-forth that is while we
[5:18:42]
have a state highway department
[5:18:44]
because roads are not traveled
[5:18:47]
just within the county people
[5:18:48]
go from one county to the next
[5:18:50]
we have to recognize the fact
[5:18:51]
that traffic is going to grow
[5:18:53]
on vint hill road as adjoining
[5:18:56]
counties grow and as implement
[5:18:57]
opportunities grown prince
[5:18:59]
william county but whatever
[5:19:00]
residential not the traffic and
[5:19:02]
the road is going to be widened
[5:19:04]
and it is going to need
[5:19:06]
additional improvement in fact
[5:19:07]
it's already in our
[5:19:09]
comprehensive plan for some
[5:19:11]
substantial improvement as MR.
[5:19:13]
Paolo explained when he was
[5:19:14]
standing there.
[5:19:15]
Traffic impact analysis also
[5:19:17]
want to explain is a very
[5:19:19]
complicated and sophisticated
[5:19:20]
computer modeling process that
[5:19:23]
is completed by professionals
[5:19:24]
this is not a group of
[5:19:25]
developers going out and saying
[5:19:27]
we think it is going to be this
[5:19:29]
many trips are that many trips
[5:19:31]
there are companies that make a
[5:19:33]
great deal of effort and apply
[5:19:35]
their best professional
[5:19:36]
knowledge as well as I said
[5:19:39]
before automated techniques for
[5:19:40]
determining how traffic might
[5:19:41]
grow.
[5:19:42]
His is a very
[5:19:44]
substantial effort that is been
[5:19:45]
undertaken not only by
[5:19:47]
strathmore for their particular
[5:19:49]
project which did not show any
[5:19:49]
negative impact on traffic
[5:19:51]
capacity on vint hill road but
[5:19:52]
also with the collective
[5:19:54]
efforts of the seven developers
[5:19:57]
who are part of the vint hill
[5:19:59]
application. There was little
[5:20:00]
discussion about the white oak
[5:20:03]
tree and uncertain see about
[5:20:04]
the white tree the rest of the
[5:20:06]
property line that is more on
[5:20:08]
the adjoining property line
[5:20:09]
that it is on the brookville
[5:20:11]
property it would make it clear
[5:20:12]
the field has done everything
[5:20:14]
it can on its property and it
[5:20:16]
is even offered with the
[5:20:18]
applicant with the neighbors
[5:20:19]
permission to go on to their
[5:20:21]
property and apply the chemist
[5:20:23]
that which is a chemical that
[5:20:24]
is very effective in preserving
[5:20:26]
trees that are being disturbed
[5:20:27]
or their roots are being
[5:20:29]
disturbed to try to slow the
[5:20:30]
growth during a couple of
[5:20:34]
seasons after the construction
[5:20:35]
occurs. So if there is lesser
[5:20:38]
impact on the strathmore side
[5:20:39]
it was clearly said they have
[5:20:40]
done what they can and they
[5:20:42]
have complied with the design
[5:20:44]
and construction standards
[5:20:46]
requirements for critical root
[5:20:53]
zone protection.
[5:20:55]
There is 46% open space on this
[5:20:57]
property I think that got
[5:20:58]
overlooked as we were going
[5:21:00]
through some of the comments.
[5:21:01]
That is a very significant
[5:21:03]
amount of open space on the
[5:21:05]
development of the size and
[5:21:06]
part of the reason that is
[5:21:12]
possible is your smaller lots
[5:21:14]
we talked for years about what
[5:21:15]
we need to cluster development
[5:21:17]
to preserve our natural
[5:21:19]
resources and preserve
[5:21:21]
environmental sensitive areas
[5:21:23]
like wetlands that's exactly
[5:21:24]
what is developers doing that
[5:21:26]
is why we are 40% 46% open
[5:21:27]
space is because those wetlands
[5:21:29]
are being protected the design
[5:21:31]
is sensitive to the
[5:21:33]
environmental sensitivity of
[5:21:34]
the particular property.
[5:21:36]
a comment was made about the
[5:21:41]
eminent domain proffer is in
[5:21:43]
the proper conditions want you
[5:21:44]
to note that as of property
[5:21:46]
condition the county has been
[5:21:47]
accepting for 35 years that
[5:21:49]
came up a really fun time ago
[5:21:51]
it is the result of a need that
[5:21:52]
was recognized by the county
[5:21:54]
and the county attorney's
[5:21:56]
office up to crafted that many
[5:22:02]
years ago that was necessary
[5:22:05]
because occasionally you need
[5:22:06]
to get a sliver of land from
[5:22:08]
the property next door you need
[5:22:10]
to get an easement for the
[5:22:11]
storm water pipe that needs to
[5:22:13]
go under the road a private
[5:22:15]
property owner cannot get those
[5:22:16]
things on their own. That is
[5:22:18]
why they look to the government
[5:22:20]
to help them with that is not
[5:22:22]
stealing anyone's property is
[5:22:23]
being done on the basis of the
[5:22:29]
greater good consistent with
[5:22:31]
the county's authority to make
[5:22:33]
decisions for the greater good
[5:22:35]
and to provide for the public
[5:22:36]
safety and public
[5:22:37]
infrastructure is necessary to
[5:22:38]
serve us all.
[5:22:40]
The fact that the average
[5:22:41]
first-time buyer was reported
[5:22:43]
to be 40 years old that is
[5:22:45]
pointing directly to the issues
[5:22:47]
that are mentioned at the very
[5:22:48]
beginning that we have a
[5:22:50]
housing crisis in this country
[5:22:52]
housing crisis is the direct
[5:22:54]
result of people opposing
[5:22:55]
housing wherever it might go.
[5:22:56]
I can tell you that every
[5:22:58]
application that we process
[5:23:00]
I've been doing it for a long
[5:23:02]
time there are people who are
[5:23:04]
opposed to the housing on the
[5:23:09]
property next door every one
[5:23:11]
agrees we need more for the
[5:23:12]
housing everybody joints their
[5:23:14]
own children to be able to buy
[5:23:16]
homes and to have the
[5:23:17]
opportunity that they had to
[5:23:19]
gain the wealth through the
[5:23:21]
purchase of a home when it's in
[5:23:22]
their neighborhood they don't
[5:23:22]
want it.
[5:23:26]
Hat type of approach
[5:23:27]
and attitude is making it
[5:23:30]
extremely difficult for you as
[5:23:32]
a governing body to make sure
[5:23:34]
that everybody has housing and
[5:23:38]
has opportunity to buy housing
[5:23:39]
in the county so you can there
[5:23:41]
is a direct correlation the
[5:23:47]
availability of housing to the
[5:23:49]
employment opportunities and
[5:23:50]
tax base in the county. If you
[5:23:52]
have any additional questions
[5:23:55]
if there's anything you want me
[5:23:57]
to expound upon happy to try to
[5:23:59]
do that hope this evening you
[5:24:00]
will be able to take action on
[5:24:02]
this case which is been in it
[5:24:04]
since FEBRUARY 2023 not APRIL
[5:24:05]
but since
[5:24:06]
FEBRUARY 2023.
[5:24:07]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right
[5:24:09]
thank you I don't see anybody
[5:24:12]
amadeus jumping thank you much
[5:24:14]
for the clarification I don't
[5:24:16]
know if staff has anything who
[5:24:25]
has a good
[5:24:28]
>> Tom Gordy: thank you to the
[5:24:29]
folks that came out and spoke
[5:24:31]
tonight thank you for again for
[5:24:32]
all the work is done by our
[5:24:37]
staff to help us get a better
[5:24:38]
approach a smarter approach
[5:24:40]
more holistic approach to try
[5:24:42]
to be thousand needs of this
[5:24:44]
community in prince william
[5:24:48]
county while it is definitely
[5:24:54]
different my hope is that we
[5:24:56]
get better development as a
[5:24:57]
result of it MADAM Chair I move
[5:24:58]
to approve item 13 a
[5:25:00]
>> Kenny Boddye: I second the
[5:25:04]
motion
[5:25:07]
>> Chair Jefferson: it's been
[5:25:08]
probably moved and seconded in
[5:25:08]
the
[5:25:09]
discussion.
[5:25:11]
>> Kenny Boddye: I will be
[5:25:13]
quick on this one person wanted
[5:25:18]
to thank supervisor gordy for
[5:25:20]
his vision on this note as you
[5:25:21]
said before you pump the brakes
[5:25:24]
on this a lot not really got
[5:25:25]
into this alongside this
[5:25:26]
applicant and build applicant
[5:25:28]
we are here to talk about this
[5:25:30]
product and will stay there
[5:25:31]
what this product hundred and
[5:25:33]
68 presidential dwelling units
[5:25:35]
17 affordable units $840,000
[5:25:37]
goes to the school of
[5:25:38]
compliments on your mind
[5:25:40]
sections planning commission
[5:25:42]
and staff recommended approval
[5:25:44]
for rezoning is itself a single
[5:25:46]
gas on the comprehensive plan
[5:25:53]
as staff reported out we see
[5:25:55]
this as an opportunity to do
[5:25:56]
things differently as
[5:25:58]
supervisor gordy said also in
[5:26:00]
the context I appreciate scott
[5:26:02]
myers for calmness and the
[5:26:04]
compensation we had along the
[5:26:05]
way context matters again this
[5:26:07]
is not some far-flung court
[5:26:09]
over rural areas this is next
[5:26:19]
to a planned residential
[5:26:20]
community at one point was also
[5:26:22]
a form that somebody at some
[5:26:24]
point did not want to happen we
[5:26:26]
need to make sure that we have
[5:26:27]
that in context and continue to
[5:26:29]
look at this project and other
[5:26:31]
projects as well I want to
[5:26:33]
highlight the almost 50% open
[5:26:34]
space that is been preserved
[5:26:36]
here that is important because
[5:26:38]
again as we look at context as
[5:26:39]
we shift away from more
[5:26:41]
developed areas in the suburbia
[5:26:43]
proper that kind of
[5:26:44]
preservation open space helps
[5:26:46]
to create the context of us see
[5:26:48]
a more gradual transition to a
[5:26:50]
more rural area both south
[5:26:52]
across vint hill road as we go
[5:26:53]
west with the potter county
[5:26:55]
line I think that's important
[5:26:57]
point ultimately as was said by
[5:26:58]
some of the speakers but by
[5:27:00]
supervisor gordy and by the
[5:27:01]
applicant we have a shortage of
[5:27:03]
housing in this region in this
[5:27:07]
county you cannot get at that
[5:27:08]
housing affordability we cannot
[5:27:10]
stabilize housing prices
[5:27:11]
midcounty if we don't approve
[5:27:13]
more housing for us it's a
[5:27:14]
simple as that. But I do
[5:27:19]
appreciate about this project
[5:27:21]
they are looking at a continuum
[5:27:23]
of housing types not just
[5:27:25]
having one cookie-cutter type
[5:27:27]
that is over the entire thing
[5:27:28]
like we see with other housing
[5:27:31]
in presidential development I
[5:27:32]
wanted to highlight and say
[5:27:34]
that both MS. Context of this
[5:27:36]
project but in the greater
[5:27:37]
context of what is coming after
[5:27:39]
that having a diversity of
[5:27:41]
housing is out we are able to
[5:27:43]
provide an opportunity several
[5:27:44]
people have not only a place to
[5:27:46]
live but homeownership which is
[5:27:47]
a way to start generating
[5:27:49]
wealth and build a social
[5:27:50]
ladder to climb up in the world
[5:27:52]
we cannot get it that
[5:27:52]
if we
[5:27:54]
don't approve and build more
[5:27:56]
housing in responsible smarts
[5:27:58]
ways like this one I support
[5:27:59]
just thank you manager.
[5:28:01]
Yesli Vega: thank you to the
[5:28:03]
residence of the brentsville
[5:28:04]
district document to speak I
[5:28:18]
think you to the county staff
[5:28:20]
thank you to the applicant as
[5:28:22]
well I know supervisor gordy
[5:28:24]
you have put in a lot of time
[5:28:25]
and effort in this project with
[5:28:27]
that being said I do recognize
[5:28:30]
the county has developed a
[5:28:31]
document from 1990 which
[5:28:33]
predates the constitutional
[5:28:34]
amendment that was adopted in
[5:28:36]
2012 I will read that for
[5:28:38]
awareness it says taking of
[5:28:39]
private property is not for
[5:28:40]
public use if the primary use
[5:28:42]
is for private gain private
[5:28:44]
benefit increasing jobs
[5:28:46]
increasing tax revenue or
[5:28:47]
economic to vomit what we've
[5:28:48]
established your tonight is
[5:28:50]
simple and very clear this road
[5:28:52]
widening is not needed today by
[5:28:54]
the public it becomes necessary
[5:28:56]
only because seven private
[5:28:58]
developments are adding
[5:28:59]
thousands of new trips to his
[5:29:00]
corridor without those projects
[5:29:02]
this improvement would not be
[5:29:04]
required I think we made that
[5:29:06]
very clear based on the answers
[5:29:08]
provided by department of
[5:29:09]
transportation that matters
[5:29:11]
because when government uses
[5:29:13]
its power especially the power
[5:29:16]
to take property the virginia
[5:29:18]
constitution requires that the
[5:29:19]
primary purpose be public and
[5:29:21]
not incidental. Not secondary
[5:29:23]
primary. Clearly the primary
[5:29:25]
driver is private development.
[5:29:26]
The immediate benefit is
[5:29:29]
private development that raises
[5:29:30]
constitutional concerns permit
[5:29:32]
the goal will be on the
[5:29:34]
something is merely defensible
[5:29:35]
in a legal proceeding or
[5:29:35]
not. I
[5:29:37]
take property rights very
[5:29:39]
seriously everybody on this day
[5:29:41]
is knows that I take the
[5:29:43]
constitution seriously I cannot
[5:29:45]
in good faith support rezoning
[5:29:47]
is critical unstructured needs
[5:29:48]
exist only because a private
[5:29:50]
project demands it. That
[5:29:51]
manager I will be voting no.
[5:29:53]
>> Chair Jefferson: anyone else
[5:29:54]
before I speak.
[5:29:56]
>> George Stewart: I do believe
[5:29:58]
in housing I do believe we do
[5:30:00]
need more housing I just
[5:30:02]
believe it needs to happen in
[5:30:03]
the right way it needs to
[5:30:04]
happen also in the right area.
[5:30:06]
I don't think this is the right
[5:30:08]
area I don't think this is the
[5:30:09]
right way.
[5:30:10]
Unfortunately I will also be
[5:30:11]
voting no.
[5:30:13]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right
[5:30:15]
real quickly I am going to jump
[5:30:16]
and I apologize to everyone I
[5:30:18]
really truly meant to attend
[5:30:20]
the vint hill small area plan
[5:30:22]
last night unfortunately I did
[5:30:24]
have core issues that is why I
[5:30:30]
was unable to attend I've been
[5:30:32]
going to listen to the comments
[5:30:34]
breeding females we got I will
[5:30:36]
say yes jessica grote were
[5:30:37]
right you will need around
[5:30:39]
$300,000 to porterhouse
[5:30:40]
nowadays you need to have two
[5:30:41]
incomes the problem I think is
[5:30:44]
because we are behind it people
[5:30:45]
that is causing the problems
[5:30:46]
with portability we are behind
[5:30:56]
it people obviously I would
[5:30:58]
like to conserve land that's a
[5:30:59]
whole separate compensation
[5:31:01]
that we need to have what is
[5:31:03]
the best way to preserve land?
[5:31:05]
Just as those who oppose this
[5:31:07]
project we feel it compromises
[5:31:08]
their own quality of life I
[5:31:10]
just want to be careful with
[5:31:13]
that have a home that you love
[5:31:15]
I want other people to have a
[5:31:19]
home that they love.
[5:31:21]
We cannot do that right now in
[5:31:23]
this moment. Without looking at
[5:31:24]
different ways to create more
[5:31:30]
housing stock.
[5:31:31]
I will not going to say we have
[5:31:34]
a housing crisis we have an
[5:31:36]
affordability crisis people
[5:31:42]
cannot afford to live here.
[5:31:44]
That is a problem that is
[5:31:45]
something I take personally. I
[5:31:47]
came to prince william county
[5:31:49]
because this was the affordable
[5:31:51]
place to be. It is not
[5:32:10]
affordable anymore.
[5:32:12]
Someone like me 10 years ago
[5:32:13]
adjusting for inflation they
[5:32:14]
still cannot afford to live
[5:32:16]
there. I want people to be able
[5:32:18]
to come to this community and
[5:32:19]
make it their home. It is
[5:32:21]
become so much harder. Because
[5:32:23]
of that. I've heard a lot of
[5:32:24]
people talk about at least on
[5:32:26]
email talk about how density:
[5:32:28]
this project is one project but
[5:32:31]
the whole corridor as well high
[5:32:32]
density. High density is
[5:32:34]
multistory apartments they are
[5:32:34]
condos.
[5:32:36]
There is something that
[5:32:38]
maximizes the land and building
[5:32:40]
vertically. This is suburban
[5:32:41]
developments. Just as people
[5:32:43]
who have a single family homes
[5:32:45]
love their homes we need more
[5:32:46]
of that. Other people want to
[5:32:48]
have their piece of the
[5:32:48]
american dream.
[5:32:50]
I cannot stand in the way of
[5:32:50]
that.
[5:32:53]
I think there is a lot of
[5:32:54]
conversations we need to have
[5:32:56]
around housing and land use.
[5:32:58]
Again preservation is an
[5:32:59]
important part of that
[5:33:01]
discussion but just because you
[5:33:04]
have your piece of the american
[5:33:05]
dream don't deny to somebody
[5:33:07]
else. I am supporting this
[5:33:08]
project I am going to give
[5:33:10]
praise to my colleague
[5:33:11]
supervisor gordy I know you've
[5:33:13]
taken some hits on this. I want
[5:33:15]
to be very clear all of this
[5:33:16]
stuff the ball on this project
[5:33:18]
on these projects started
[5:33:21]
before supervisor gordy and
[5:33:23]
supervisor stuart government
[5:33:24]
office yes the small area plan
[5:33:26]
is playing catch-up it
[5:33:28]
should've come many years prior
[5:33:30]
but it didn't. I still see a
[5:33:33]
need for that there is still
[5:33:34]
still need to look at how this
[5:33:36]
whole corridor is going to work
[5:33:37]
together it is not ideal.
[5:33:39]
But a lot of our government is
[5:33:43]
not ideal.
[5:33:44]
What I want to get away from
[5:33:46]
what I like about this project
[5:33:48]
is it is not piecemeal or
[5:33:49]
patchwork.
[5:33:50]
We have a lot of that in this
[5:33:52]
county we have a lot of
[5:33:57]
piecemeal patchwork projects
[5:33:58]
that is why I'm supporting it
[5:34:00]
and doing what to say to my
[5:34:04]
colleagues supervisor gordy
[5:34:06]
this is in your district I
[5:34:08]
appreciate the work that you've
[5:34:10]
done also trying to bring the
[5:34:11]
different developers to the
[5:34:13]
table I truly appreciate that.
[5:34:15]
I will let you have a blessed
[5:34:15]
lord.
[5:34:17]
>> Victor Angry: I didn't want
[5:34:19]
to speak I don't do this I feel
[5:34:21]
the need to because I've been
[5:34:23]
on this board six years you've
[5:34:31]
heard it I'm the last standing
[5:34:32]
longest surviving the sport is
[5:34:34]
been over the place I'm talking
[5:34:36]
to the board I've always said
[5:34:38]
this the public gets to hear us
[5:34:40]
we are fishable we talk to each
[5:34:42]
other and not done they get
[5:34:44]
treatments then begin a public
[5:34:45]
hearing for an effort to
[5:34:47]
support core all over the place
[5:34:49]
support the district supervisor
[5:34:50]
when they make a motion what's
[5:34:52]
in their district it's been
[5:34:53]
supported not supported there
[5:34:56]
is one county in prince william
[5:34:57]
county it is prince william
[5:35:01]
county there is not seven
[5:35:03]
counties in principal and
[5:35:04]
county even the products we put
[5:35:06]
in these districts we have an
[5:35:08]
obligation at this board is the
[5:35:10]
status to prevent move this
[5:35:11]
county forward the staff does a
[5:35:13]
great job with it the plan
[5:35:15]
commission because a great job
[5:35:16]
with it we have everything in
[5:35:18]
place to do the job we supposed
[5:35:20]
to be doing make these
[5:35:20]
decisions.
[5:35:22]
I'm sorry I love it's recorded
[5:35:24]
in people get to hear but in
[5:35:26]
talking to all supervisor gordy
[5:35:27]
you put a whole lot of work
[5:35:29]
into this you public on the
[5:35:30]
best solution out of lowering
[5:35:32]
density of which just to prove
[5:35:34]
a public human way higher
[5:35:35]
you've done all you could with
[5:35:38]
this it is your product that is
[5:35:39]
why I give you credit for the
[5:35:41]
district that you represent you
[5:35:43]
brought it to the board I think
[5:35:45]
you brought a great product to
[5:35:47]
the board I get everything that
[5:35:49]
is been set around it at the
[5:35:50]
end of the day when we talk
[5:35:52]
about these housing and the
[5:35:54]
prices housing in the county
[5:35:56]
the only lower pricing when you
[5:35:58]
get more homes built that is
[5:35:59]
exactly what you did you could
[5:36:01]
have done more but you did what
[5:36:03]
you need to do to keep that
[5:36:04]
corridor balanced that is what
[5:36:06]
you've done I just want to say
[5:36:08]
that folks typically spend a
[5:36:09]
lot of time going around and
[5:36:11]
stuff I will just operate there
[5:36:11]
thanks
[5:36:13]
supervisor gordy thank
[5:36:15]
you I appreciate it.
[5:36:16]
>> Chair Jefferson: all right.
[5:36:18]
>> Tom Gordy: thank you for
[5:36:21]
cheerful what you said about
[5:36:23]
what is going on with housing
[5:36:24]
and thank you everyone else for
[5:36:26]
your input I just want to
[5:36:29]
remind the community and at
[5:36:31]
this board how we got to where
[5:36:33]
we are right now.
[5:36:35]
There was land for residential
[5:36:36]
development along the linton
[5:36:39]
whole quarter the people said
[5:36:41]
don't put houses there.
[5:36:45]
It had a sewer and water there
[5:36:47]
were roads there were schools.
[5:36:50]
What they said don't put
[5:36:53]
houses there.
[5:36:55]
What did they put their. Data
[5:37:00]
centers.
[5:37:01]
Raise your hand if you are
[5:37:03]
happy about the data centers
[5:37:04]
going along linton whole
[5:37:05]
corridor?
[5:37:11]
Nobody.
[5:37:16]
When we govern in fear we end
[5:37:22]
up with decisions like that.
[5:37:26]
Now here we are 10 years later
[5:37:31]
we have a housing crisis I do
[5:37:33]
call it a crisis I don't know
[5:37:34]
how my kids are ever going to
[5:37:36]
be able afford house if it were
[5:37:37]
not for homeownership I would
[5:37:39]
still be paying student loan
[5:37:43]
debt.
[5:37:44]
If it were not for
[5:37:46]
homeownership I would still be
[5:37:48]
stuck with a lot more debt but
[5:37:50]
homeownership is the greatest
[5:37:52]
opportunity in this country
[5:37:54]
wealth building.
[5:37:55]
Right now in prince william
[5:37:57]
county upward mobility has come
[5:38:05]
to a screeching halt.
[5:38:06]
I know this because I get
[5:38:08]
complaints from neighborhoods
[5:38:10]
like braemar complaining about
[5:38:12]
the number of families living
[5:38:13]
in a house.
[5:38:16]
Jamming up the road with cars
[5:38:22]
we can be blind to the problem
[5:38:23]
but the reality is we are going
[5:38:25]
to have to build houses
[5:38:33]
somewhere.
[5:38:35]
Now we've got to find a way to
[5:38:36]
adjust this if we don't build
[5:38:38]
it here they are going to build
[5:38:40]
it somewhere else.
[5:38:41]
He will build it in culpeper
[5:38:44]
bulkier stafford go to
[5:38:45]
fleetwood in the morning and
[5:38:47]
see much traffic is coming to
[5:38:49]
prince william county from
[5:38:52]
stafford county guests who will
[5:38:53]
have to pay to fix fleetwood
[5:38:55]
how taxpayers will still have
[5:38:57]
to use eminent domain on that
[5:38:59]
except it's for public deed
[5:39:00]
caused by stafford county. We
[5:39:02]
get no economic benefit from it
[5:39:09]
but we have to pay for it.
[5:39:10]
This is going to be a repeated
[5:39:16]
pattern of bad behavior if we
[5:39:18]
don't take a look at the need
[5:39:20]
that we have before us and
[5:39:21]
begin to address this prince
[5:39:22]
william county as part of
[5:39:24]
northern virginia.
[5:39:25]
While I do want to preserve
[5:39:27]
open space and have a directive
[5:39:29]
aimed at doing just that so we
[5:39:42]
can establish a free market
[5:39:44]
approach to land conservation
[5:39:45]
and land preservation through
[5:39:47]
pdr purchase department rights
[5:39:49]
transfer debarment rights and
[5:39:50]
conservation easements.
[5:39:52]
So we also have a plan for that
[5:39:54]
but he gets back to 1.5
[5:39:55]
continue to use since I got
[5:40:00]
sworn and it is about balance.
[5:40:01]
Right now we are out of
[5:40:03]
balance. We are out of balance
[5:40:05]
with data centers we have too
[5:40:06]
many of them to we have to get
[5:40:09]
it back to balance. We have out
[5:40:10]
of balance and housing a
[5:40:11]
single-family home on a less
[5:40:13]
than half acre lot in my
[5:40:14]
district just went for $1.9
[5:40:16]
million.
[5:40:19]
It is insane what's happening
[5:40:22]
guess what that means our taxes
[5:40:23]
are going up.
[5:40:26]
We will pay for
[5:40:41]
this one way or the other.
[5:40:42]
By saying no there is a
[5:40:44]
downstream effects. On all of
[5:40:46]
us by saying yes there is a
[5:40:47]
downstream effect on all of us.
[5:40:49]
My job is to figure out what is
[5:40:51]
the right balance I think we
[5:40:53]
strike the right balance here I
[5:40:55]
will continue to work to try to
[5:40:56]
strike that right balance
[5:40:58]
because it is what is necessary
[5:40:59]
for a good community.
[5:41:01]
I appreciate all the hard work
[5:41:03]
that is here I appreciate we
[5:41:05]
will agree to disagree amongst
[5:41:06]
ourselves that is okay. When
[5:41:08]
it's all said and done you will
[5:41:10]
get together we will still
[5:41:11]
respect one another we will
[5:41:13]
continue to work for the good
[5:41:14]
of this community. I appreciate
[5:41:16]
all the input that people are
[5:41:18]
afraid we just got to continue
[5:41:20]
to work towards the right
[5:41:22]
balance I appreciate all the
[5:41:23]
work has been done so far we
[5:41:25]
will continue to do thank you.
[5:41:27]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:41:29]
very much I would like call for
[5:41:29]
the vote.
[5:41:34]
>> motion passes 6/2 supervisor
[5:41:38]
vega until PRESIDENT Stewart
[5:41:45]
supervisor stuart
[5:41:47]
>> Chair Jefferson: it's what
[5:41:49]
happened when I don't have the
[5:41:51]
agenda public comment time I'm
[5:41:52]
sorry who do we have.
[5:41:54]
We have
[5:42:19]
[Listing names] Then we have
[5:42:20]
this is public comment if you
[5:42:22]
want to quickly take the sign
[5:42:24]
off do we have another sign-up
[5:42:32]
sheet back there.
[5:42:33]
You can go ahead and then we
[5:42:37]
have other people we can you
[5:42:42]
have three minutes.
[5:42:46]
>> this is pertaining to
[5:42:49]
default on what topic for
[5:42:51]
>> Chair Jefferson: you can
[5:42:56]
topic.
[5:42:57]
Are you prepared or should I
[5:42:59]
invite the other one backup.
[5:43:02]
>> I think I'm prepared this
[5:43:04]
applicant is not part of the
[5:43:07]
medial contribution to the
[5:43:09]
widening of the comprehensive
[5:43:10]
road plan which is what the
[5:43:30]
other developers are proposing
[5:43:32]
to do to vint hill road they
[5:43:34]
made no contribution to the
[5:43:36]
road they are taking 10 school
[5:43:38]
credits from knoxville and
[5:43:39]
transfer those 10 school
[5:43:41]
credits leaders school is at an
[5:43:43]
expansion each school has 10
[5:43:44]
the overcapacity. Why is the
[5:43:47]
plan commission by the board of
[5:43:49]
supervisors not more hundred
[5:43:51]
percent involved with the
[5:43:52]
school board as a whole the
[5:43:54]
find out you will find these
[5:43:56]
they offered to new sites in.
[5:43:57]
[Listing names] No school in
[5:44:03]
this strap development who will
[5:44:05]
fund the schools $300 million
[5:44:13]
is what they quoted I'm
[5:44:14]
crunching the numbers because
[5:44:16]
the planning commission asked
[5:44:18]
the developer stanley martin
[5:44:19]
how much will he make profit
[5:44:21]
for house he said $30,000
[5:44:21]
300c
[5:44:23]
000 $300 million will fund
[5:44:24]
the schools we cannot continue
[5:44:28]
to put the burden of taxation
[5:44:30]
on the residence of this county
[5:44:31]
to keep funding for roads and
[5:44:33]
keep funding the schools when
[5:44:35]
the developers need the proper
[5:44:37]
office and make a concession to
[5:44:39]
the county as part of their
[5:44:41]
development package going back
[5:44:43]
to what they said if we were
[5:44:45]
building schools was going to
[5:44:46]
find these calls will state is
[5:44:48]
a negative drag it does not
[5:44:50]
produce economics for the
[5:44:52]
county more taxation more
[5:44:53]
taxation will virtually be
[5:44:55]
taxed out of the county this
[5:44:56]
happened to me in fairfax
[5:44:58]
county I dealt with the
[5:45:01]
planning tax administration
[5:45:16]
Real estate is a negative
[5:45:18]
amortization does not bring
[5:45:20]
economic growth to the county
[5:45:21]
more houses more houses
[5:45:22]
changing the rural present
[5:45:24]
density zoning to what's called
[5:45:26]
moral planned master
[5:45:31]
development the next seven
[5:45:39]
applicants are still 1000
[5:45:41]
houses is 150. The next guy has
[5:45:42]
24th yes 476.
[5:45:46]
Too much is too much more
[5:45:47]
housing for housing is not
[5:45:52]
bringing a relief to the
[5:45:53]
problem houses do not bring
[5:45:59]
economic spread the more houses
[5:46:00]
will not bring down the price
[5:46:02]
of the house. The builder wants
[5:46:04]
to maximize their
[5:46:05]
profitability.
[5:46:06]
We can build and build and we
[5:46:08]
destroy the whole question
[5:46:09]
prince william county.
[5:46:16]
>> Chair Jefferson: I am sorry
[5:46:18]
just say your name and we
[5:46:19]
reside woman temporally set.
[5:46:21]
>> my name is paul short I
[5:46:21]
reside on
[5:46:22]
the brentsville
[5:46:24]
district and owls nest road.
[5:46:25]
>> Chair Jefferson: next
[5:46:27]
speaker sacred name when you
[5:46:31]
reside is a county attorney who
[5:46:33]
will look at me if we don't do
[5:46:33]
it.
[5:46:35]
>> did you get my name is amy
[5:46:37]
crosby a live-in respect to the
[5:46:39]
principal district I do think
[5:46:40]
this the right location I
[5:46:42]
believe that because I know
[5:46:48]
vint hill myself we currently
[5:46:50]
bulkier from prince william
[5:46:51]
county almost 5 years he's been
[5:46:53]
a mechanic it's the right
[5:46:55]
location because what I'm
[5:46:56]
seeing more often than not is
[5:46:59]
families phaseout which is what
[5:47:00]
I believe I wrote inside the in
[5:47:02]
the article it was the family
[5:47:03]
please outperforming and no
[5:47:05]
longer want to do that all the
[5:47:07]
current residents MAY want to
[5:47:09]
hold off and not want that was
[5:47:10]
to save their children will
[5:47:12]
want to maintain at the same
[5:47:13]
location in 20 or 30 years we
[5:47:15]
don't have any homes we could
[5:47:17]
have data centers as atrocious
[5:47:19]
it is a great location however
[5:47:20]
the traffic study I think the
[5:47:22]
biggest key here vint hill road
[5:47:24]
is a dangerous road and I do
[5:47:26]
think infrastructure needs to
[5:47:27]
change regardless of these
[5:47:29]
homes coming in I think it's
[5:47:31]
been dangerous for a while hope
[5:47:33]
you guys will look at that also
[5:47:36]
look at the water rollins horde
[5:47:38]
that can be a great area of
[5:47:39]
connection I think that needs
[5:47:41]
to be figured in with
[5:47:42]
connecting doors and eminent
[5:47:44]
domain is the lower part of the
[5:47:46]
water brought right which no
[5:47:48]
bridges in over it so it can
[5:47:49]
connect and people can go a
[5:47:51]
different way that would help
[5:47:51]
ease congestion.
[5:47:53]
Then looking at lake manassas
[5:47:55]
is used for the city of
[5:47:56]
manassas could be used to help
[5:47:58]
water with the prince william
[5:48:00]
water on the side of the county
[5:48:02]
and the way thank you again
[5:48:07]
this was a great first meeting
[5:48:08]
for me hope to see you again
[5:48:09]
soon.
[5:48:10]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:48:12]
very much if you want to join
[5:48:13]
to frequent flyer,
[5:48:14]
it's free to
[5:48:15]
join up thank you for everybody
[5:48:16]
who is
[5:48:17]
come out and spoken to
[5:48:19]
have anybody from remote.
[5:48:20]
>> we have one person from
[5:48:21]
remote.
[5:48:22]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:48:24]
guess we do please proceed
[5:48:24]
>>.
[5:48:26]
[Listing names] Can you hear
[5:48:26]
me.
[5:48:28]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:48:29]
yes I can hear you.
[5:48:29]
> just
[5:48:31]
making sure I just wanted to
[5:48:32]
make two brief comments one I
[5:48:34]
didn't hear any discussion of
[5:48:38]
housing cost or hoa fees for
[5:48:39]
this project. Maybe I missed
[5:48:41]
it. And number two I want to
[5:48:50]
read from the planning
[5:48:51]
commission meeting JULY 27,
[5:49:02]
2022 cpa 2022 000 teen devlin
[5:49:04]
technology park recommended for
[5:49:06]
approval motion made by
[5:49:08]
commissioner gordy seconded by
[5:49:09]
Mcphail then the subsequent
[5:49:12]
rezoning 2022-000 22 devlin
[5:49:14]
technology park motion for
[5:49:17]
approval made by commissioner
[5:49:20]
gordy seconded by commissioner
[5:49:22]
Mcphail.
[5:49:24]
I do have a problem with the
[5:49:25]
data centers on linton hall
[5:49:25]
road.
[5:49:27]
I also remember how they got
[5:49:33]
there thanks so much you'll
[5:49:34]
have a great night.
[5:49:35]
>> Chair Jefferson:
[5:49:37]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:49:39]
thank you MS. Carol and the
[5:49:39]
others online.
[5:49:45]
>> vice chair no other speakers
[5:49:47]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:49:48]
thank you very much for your
[5:49:49]
help.
[5:49:50]
>> Chair Jefferson: thank you
[5:49:52]
very much everyone who is come
[5:49:53]
up to speak to escrow can
[5:52:10]
>> Chair Jefferson: we are back
[5:52:13]
from closed session I need a
[5:52:26]
motion to certify.
[5:52:27]
let's go ahead and
[5:52:29]
take a vote.
[5:52:29]
>> vote unanimous.
[5:52:29]
>>
[5:52:31]
Chair Jefferson: we have two
[5:52:33]
motions we are going to make a
[5:52:34]
percent supervisor bailey.
[5:52:36]
>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair:
[5:52:37]
thank you bencher I moved to
[5:52:39]
county executive annual
[5:52:40]
performance review and
[5:52:41]
compensation adjustment.
[5:52:42]
>> Kenny Boddye: I
[5:52:43]
second the
[5:52:43]
motion.
[5:52:45]
> Chair Jefferson:
[5:52:46]
let's take our vote.
[5:52:46]
>>
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vote unanimous
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supervisor
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stuart abstaining from the vote
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>> Chair Jefferson: in the
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second.
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>> Andrea Bailey,Vice Chair: of
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the county attorney's annual
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performance review and
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compensation adjustment.
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>> Kenny Boddye: I second the
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motion.
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> Chair
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Jefferson:
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let's take our vote.
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Vote unanimous supervisor
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stuart abstaining from the
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vote.
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>> Chair Jefferson: a most
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important vote of the evening
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is to adjourn for an.
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>> motion to adjourn.
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[Laughter]
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>> Tom Gordy: I make a motion
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to approve.
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>> Kenny Boddye: I second the
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motion
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>> vote unanimous.