[1:22] >>>

[1:24] of the martinez city council, wednesday, november

[1:25] 19

[1:28] 7:is 7 p.m.

[1:31] city clerk please call the roll.

[1:34] >>

[1:40] [ roll call ]

[1:43] >> wonderful, please join me

[1:46] for the pledge of allegiance.

[1:48] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag

[1:50] of the united states of america and

[1:52] to the republic for which

[1:55] it stands, one nation

[1:57] under god, indivisible with liberty

[1:58] and justice

[2:01] for all.

[2:02] >>

[2:06] all right, to start up the meeting we

[2:07] have a couple

[2:08] of presentations and so I'm going

[2:10] to ask the council to come down and

[2:13] we will present from down there.

[2:34] >>

[2:37] okay, thank you.

[2:43] please, come on up.

[2:45] all right, good evening everyone.

[2:49] so I have the

[2:50] honor and we will go ahead and invite

[2:52] the whole community, those of you

[2:54] here for the sikh awareness and appreciation

[2:55] month

[2:57] if I can invite you all to come up

[2:58] and join

[3:00] the council, thank you very much.

[3:04] all right, so

[3:05] sikh awareness and appreciation month

[3:07] whereas

[3:09] sikh is the 5th largest religion with

[3:10] 25 million

[3:13] followers worldwide and more than

[3:14] 500,000 in the united states many

[3:16] of whom have called california home

[3:19] since the late 1800s whereas sikh

[3:20] americans

[3:21] have contributed significantly to

[3:22] the

[3:25] nations growth to their work

[3:26] in agriculture, business, education, technology

[3:28] and public service including

[3:31] the city of martinez where

[3:33] councilmember malhi became the city's

[3:34] 1st sikh

[3:40] american council member whereas the

[3:41] values of equality, service

[3:42] and justice are reflected through

[3:43] acts

[3:44] of community service including providing

[3:46] free meals,

[3:49] aiding seniors

[3:51] and supporting local relief efforts

[3:52] whereas despite

[3:53] facing discrimination and hate crimes

[3:55] sikh americans continue to demonstrate

[3:56] resilience,

[3:58] compassion and eternal optimism

[4:01] in opposing the dignity of

[4:04] all people.

[4:05] whereas the city of martinez honors

[4:07] and celebrates the many ways sikh

[4:08] americans

[4:09] strengthen communities and enrich

[4:10] the social and cultural

[4:12] fabric of our city and our nation.

[4:15] now therefore be it resolved that

[4:19] mayor zorn and

[4:21] city council on behalf of our entire

[4:22] council I should

[4:25] say do hereby proclaim november 2025 as

[4:28] sikh awareness and appreciation month

[4:29] in

[4:31] the city of martinez.

[4:40] and so, very quickly I

[4:42] have up here many local residents

[4:46] in martinez including business owners including

[4:49] daisy and

[4:52] , the owners of the subway and we

[4:53] have the

[4:55] owners of the marina minimart

[4:58] and pacheco truck stop

[5:00] and we have some other local residents

[5:01] here as well and

[5:04] I want to say thank you, we are so

[5:05] proud you

[5:07] have chosen to call martin is

[5:09] your home . We have a representative

[5:10] of the local

[5:13] house of worship

[5:16] where many of

[5:19] our local sikh go to worship. Did

[5:20] you

[5:22] want to say anything?

[5:25] okay. All right, very good. With that

[5:27] thank you all very much and very quickly,

[5:31] my mom is here in

[5:33] the audience and she made some traditional

[5:34] tea, so if you would

[5:37] like to have some , there was

[5:39] some in the corner along with some

[5:40] sweets. And

[5:43] a qr code where you can learn a little

[5:44] bit more

[5:45] about our faith, culture and history

[5:46] so if that is of

[5:49] interest I

[5:51] encourage you to partake in that as

[5:52] well, thank you very much. We will

[5:55] go ahead and get a couple of photos.

[8:32] >>

[8:33] good evening mayor and members of

[8:35] the council and members of the public

[8:38] for those who don't know me

[8:41] my name is andrew white chief of police

[8:42] for

[8:43] the city of martinez, tonight we are

[8:44] swearing in our 3 newest sergeants

[8:45] at

[8:46] this time I would like to call forward

[8:47] sgt. Mayberry,

[8:50] [ applause ]

[9:05] sgt.

[9:08] carney, scott

[9:11] carney.

[9:17] sgt.

[9:35] so, before we get started with

[9:36] their portion I wanted to recognize

[9:38] a few people 1st of all current serving

[9:39] officers

[9:40] that are here if you're not standing,

[9:41] stand up so we can recognize your

[9:44] service to our community.

[9:47] thank you. Some are still shy.

[9:55] secondly I want to recognize we have

[9:56] numerous retirees

[9:58] that have joined us, including 2 prior chiefs.

[10:02] thank you for joining us.

[10:14] I just want to point out in

[10:17] law enforcement

[10:20] particularly serving in

[10:21] the city of martinez service extends beyond

[10:23] any one of us

[10:24] it is about the connection to the

[10:25] community and connection to the profession

[10:26] and I was incredibly

[10:28] delighted to see all the retirees

[10:29] that have shown up to support

[10:31] this legacy. We have one individual

[10:35] sgt. Mayberry

[10:36] who essentially grew up through the

[10:38] department and it is nice to see people

[10:41] coming back and supporting, I

[10:43] want to stand here to say how much we

[10:44] appreciate all of your service

[10:46] and we never forget what you have

[10:47] done for the city

[10:49] and we will do everything to continue

[10:50] to take care of

[10:51] you, we are delighted to have one

[10:53] retired k-9 dog that's

[10:56] hiding in the corner.

[11:02] all right, without further ado if we can

[11:05] call forward folks that are going to be

[11:08] pinning the badge

[11:11] so for sgt. Mayberry, his daughter charlotte

[11:14] , come forward please.

[11:20] 1st sgt.

[11:23] king , his

[11:26] sister, marissa.

[11:32] and I will be pinning sgt. Carney's

[11:35] badge.

[12:33] >> at this

[12:34] time I would like to call forward

[12:37] our city clerk who will administer

[12:39] the oath of office and while

[12:42] she is preparing

[12:43] a want to recognize in the police department

[12:45] obviously police

[12:46] on the streets are delivering service

[12:48] that the community needs

[12:51] and keeps them safe

[12:53] but next to that work being done some

[12:54] of the most

[12:55] important people in the department

[12:57] in leadership

[12:59] by the front-line supervisors 24 hours

[13:00] a day

[13:01] providing support , leadership and

[13:03] guidance in the mentorship

[13:04] for officers coming into the agency

[13:15] .

[13:17] it takes a lot to go through the testing process.

[13:18] preparing yourselves to do it

[13:19] and these 3 individuals have done

[13:20] everything they need to do to earn

[13:21] this position.

[13:22] and the coming months the coming years

[13:23] will demonstrate that through their

[13:24] hard work. I

[13:25] appreciate you stepping up to do this

[13:27] and behind them we have

[13:30] 2 more sergeants promoted

[13:32] so it is a big deal for martinez police

[13:33] and maybe the most

[13:34] sergeants promoted in a short period

[13:36] of time.

[13:38] without further ado I will turn it

[13:39] over to the city

[13:40] clerk to minister the oath of office.

[13:42] >> thank

[13:43] you chief, good evening everyone.

[13:45] sergeants please raise

[13:48] your right hand and repeat

[13:51] after me. I, state your name

[13:54] to solemnly affirm

[13:57] that I will support and defend

[14:00] the constitution of the

[14:03] united states

[14:05] and the constitution of the state

[14:09] of california.

[14:11] against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

[14:15] that I will bear

[14:17] true faith. And allegiance to the same.

[14:21] that I

[14:24] take this obligation freely .

[14:27] without any mental reservation.

[14:30] or

[14:33] purpose of evasion. And I will

[14:36] well and faithfully discharge

[14:39] the duties

[14:41] of the office I am about to enter.

[14:45] that is it, congratulations.

[14:51] [ applause ]

[17:06] >>

[17:09] at this time all

[17:12] pd staff that have come you are free to

[17:14] go next door, for the dinner and to

[17:15] the rest of

[17:18] the community, thank you for your

[17:19] support we

[17:20] could not do the job without your

[17:21] support cheering these guys on that

[17:22] was a

[17:24] good cheering section, thank you.

[18:42] >> next up is the chamber of commerce,

[18:46] if you would like to

[18:49] come up.

[19:40] >>

[19:43] thank you, all right.

[19:46] hello everyone,

[19:48] I am the president of the chamber

[19:49] of

[19:51] commerce and tonight we are celebrating

[19:55] a special business of the month and

[19:58] I am honored to do this one in

[19:59] the business community we talk about,

[20:01] 1st of all sorry

[20:04] let me back up I want to thank

[20:06] the mayor and city council for having

[20:07] us tonight, thank

[20:10] you everyone and city staff and my

[20:11] chamber

[20:12] staff for being here. In the business community

[20:13] we

[20:16] talk about the successes

[20:19] of businesses and a special success

[20:22] is when a business is able to start and

[20:25] and last for a really long time and

[20:27] then move on without the business

[20:31] closing, have the business change hands

[20:34] and that is a

[20:35] huge tremendous success story when

[20:37] a small business can do that and the

[20:38] california

[20:40] magic club is a great example of that situation.

[20:43] jerry griffin started the

[20:46] magic theater many years ago.

[20:47] has been a fixture of martinez 21

[20:49] years and announced

[20:52] his retirement last month. And

[20:55] now taking the home he

[20:56] has bought the business and is carrying

[20:58] on the magic

[21:00] and we could not be more thrilled

[21:01] for knowing that jerry

[21:04] is able to lead

[21:07] , lead to the next phase of

[21:10] his dream and that john is

[21:12] going to be able to carry on his dream

[21:13] as well within

[21:16] the business. So I want to thank and

[21:17] honor both

[21:19] jerry and john as business

[21:21] of the month for chamber of commerce and

[21:25] to wish you both well, great success and

[21:26] to

[21:27] applaud you for what you are doing

[21:28] in the community

[21:31] right now. Before

[21:33] I turn it over we have a presentation,

[21:34] we will go with

[21:37] angela from senator grayson's office

[21:40] and then also making

[21:43] a presentation .

[21:44] >>

[21:46] thank you hello again

[21:48] my name is angela from the office

[21:49] of senator tim grayson, honored

[21:54] to be here to present certificate

[21:55] of recognition

[21:57] to the california magic club. I want

[21:58] to join with others recognizing the

[22:01] california magic club

[22:03] as the martinez business of the month,

[22:04] dedication to excellence and valued

[22:05] contribution in which the quality

[22:07] and strength of the community.

[22:10] on behalf of the 9 senate district

[22:11] congratulations.

[22:16] >>

[22:19] once again my name is ,

[22:21] and representing the assemblywoman

[22:25] district 15

[22:27] and on behalf of the california state legislature

[22:31] I would like to recognize california

[22:33] magic club. Proud to recognize california

[22:34] magic club

[22:36] as business of the month november

[22:37] 2025,

[22:40] this entertainment

[22:41] and dining establishment has enriched

[22:42] the community by blending exceptional

[22:43] hospitality with

[22:46] timeless artistry of live magic

[22:49] for its welcoming atmosphere, support

[22:51] for talent and dedication to offering memorable

[22:55] experiences, this

[22:57] reflect the dedicated service and

[22:58] meaningful role that you play in enriching

[23:01] the community. Congratulations

[23:04] on this milestone.

[23:13] >>

[23:16] I would also like to recognize you,

[23:19] mr. Jerry. Proud to celebrate the

[23:20] milestone of

[23:22] your retirement marking the culmination

[23:23] of

[23:25] more than 20 years of dedicated service

[23:26] to the california

[23:28] magic club

[23:31] and martinez community. Throughout

[23:32] your remarkable

[23:33] tenure artistry and commitment has

[23:35] made you a beloved figure

[23:38] in the

[23:39] martinez business district. I extend

[23:40] my heartfelt appreciation for outstanding

[23:41] contributions and wish

[23:43] you great fulfillment and joy in the years ahead.

[23:53] >> I will turn it over to say

[23:55] a few words.

[23:56] >> I will keep it short

[23:58] I am a person of few words. Thank

[24:00] you very very much for this. I am

[24:02] very humbled and grateful

[24:05] for this acknowledgment.

[24:08] as I looked around the

[24:09] room the 1st person I saw when I came

[24:11] in was joe sitting

[24:12] over there. That gentleman was here

[24:14] in town 21

[24:16] years ago when we 1st got started

[24:17] he would come in

[24:19] and have lunch when we were serving

[24:20] lunch but for

[24:21] anyone in business for themselves

[24:23] they know it's a lot of hard

[24:26] work, sweat and a few

[24:28] tears when you get started. I am very grateful

[24:29] we have been

[24:32] here as long as we have and it

[24:33] is a wonderful time and I want to

[24:35] say thank you to the city

[24:38] who welcomed me so well back in the day

[24:41] when we opened on april

[24:44] fools' day of 2004. I had been to

[24:47] a number of cities,

[24:49] the one I grew up in, antioch, pleasant

[24:50] hill where I had my

[24:51] magic store at the time and there

[24:53] was a lot of hoops to jump through

[24:55] and a young lady by the name of debbie

[24:56] dodson who had a

[24:58] business in town said you have to

[24:59] come to martinez and see

[25:01] what they are doing so when I came down

[25:05] a lady

[25:06] by the name of leanne I can't remember

[25:08] her last name she was

[25:10] the business development lady at the

[25:11] time, she

[25:12] took me around and showed me all of

[25:13] this. Everyone, the gentleman in charge

[25:14] of

[25:16] the business building codes and everything

[25:17] like that, he took

[25:20] me in and made it very easy

[25:25] to get started so I want to say how

[25:26] grateful I am to the city

[25:28] of martinez and all the help you have

[25:29] given me over the years

[25:32] now to my dear friend john

[25:33] who I have known at least 30 years

[25:35] and as the old song

[25:37] goes. I do believe that truly so thank

[25:38] you

[25:41] very much everyone. Thank you.

[25:46] >> I will keep it even shorter. I

[25:47] want

[25:50] to say thank you.

[25:52] a great honor to be welcomed to the

[25:53] community in this way.

[25:54] truly appreciate everyone coming down

[25:56] to recognize

[25:57] what jerry has done over the course

[25:59] of 21 years in business and I

[26:02] hope to have 21 more. Thank

[26:05] you very much.

[28:08] >>

[28:11] who has the microphone?

[28:23] >> all right, next item

[28:26] is a thrown labs update.

[28:29] mike, will you be introducing them?

[28:35] gotcha okay.

[28:37] they will be promoted there in the

[28:38] virtual audience.

[28:40] >> while getting promoted for anyone

[28:41] who is

[28:44] not aware the thrown labs is

[28:46] our free bathroom available to the public

[28:47] that

[28:50] is in the plaza downtown. And it has

[28:53] been a wonderful at to our plaza area

[28:56] and looking forward to hearing some

[28:57] of

[28:59] the statistics from thrown

[29:02] labs themselves. Hi natasha.

[29:05] >> hi how are you? >> great,

[29:08] thank you for joining us. Okay

[29:11] I will go ahead and jump in, thank

[29:12] you for

[29:14] introducing thrown labs as a new

[29:16] free bathroom you all have downtown

[29:17] I'm

[29:20] trying to share my screen but it is

[29:21] not allowing

[29:23] me to is there another

[29:26] , another thing I need to do

[29:28] to be able to share the screen?

[29:29] >>

[29:30] you should

[29:32] be able to share. Can you try again?

[29:35] >> yes.

[29:51] >> sorry

[29:53] it's going to have me leave and come back.

[29:57] I will be right back.

[30:09] >> she actually had

[30:12] to log out completely.

[30:15] it will be 1 minute.

[30:16] >> while she

[30:17] is doing that should we jump ahead

[30:21] to public , can I rearrange

[30:24] the agenda and to the consent

[30:26] calendar 1st then we go back to public comment?

[30:30] >> that is within your proper.

[30:33] >> let's do consent calendar

[30:34] as we wait for her to reconnect in

[30:35] case we get a bunch of public comments,

[30:36] for

[30:37] the consent calendar there are items

[30:39] 5

[30:42] through 16. Does

[30:44] anyone on council want to pull items off

[30:46] the consent calendar this evening?

[30:48] >>

[30:51] I don't have my agenda up

[30:54] but I think it is item 13.

[30:55] >>

[30:57] I was going to say 13.

[30:58] >>

[30:59] you want to pull that one okay. In

[31:00] that case I

[31:03] will open up

[31:05] to public comment. If there are any

[31:06] consent calendar items 5

[31:07] through 12 and 14 through 16 for those

[31:09] of you in council

[31:10] chambers does anyone have comments

[31:12] on

[31:14] consent calendar items excluding item 13?

[31:18] how about anyone

[31:21] in the virtual audience?

[31:22] >>

[31:23] those attending virtually please use

[31:24] the raise hand feature.

[31:30] I have no hands.

[31:31] >>

[31:32] all right we will bring this back

[31:33] to council for final

[31:36] comments or emotion.

[31:37] >>

[31:38] make a motion to pass consent calendar

[31:39] items 5 through 12 and 14

[31:42] to 16 correct?

[31:45] >> 2nd. >> all in favor?

[31:48] excellent.

[31:49] >> the motion

[31:50] passes.

[31:51] >> is she back online or can

[31:52] we proceed?

[31:54] >> she is back online. >>

[31:57] pause on item 13 go back to

[32:00] it and go back to natasha.

[32:09] >>

[32:12] all right

[32:14] trying again thank you everyone sorry

[32:15] about that.

[32:21] >> there we go.

[32:24] >> we were just admiring

[32:27] your santa claus earrings.

[32:28] >>

[32:30] thank you, they are actually cows

[32:33] dressed as santa.

[32:34] >>

[32:36] even more.

[32:37] >> thank you,

[32:39] they have been my mom's for 30 years

[32:42] so I will let her know you

[32:44] liked them. Thank you, as you heard

[32:45] before I

[32:48] am from thrown labs, the new free

[32:50] bathroom in martinez. Here today to

[32:51] give you a

[32:53] quick overview of what the thrown

[32:54] bathroom is. I want

[32:57] to give anyone who has not heard about thrown

[32:59] or is not familiar with the difference

[33:00] of what

[33:03] we have to offer versus a traditional

[33:04] public

[33:05] restroom we will give you a quick

[33:06] overview and talk about how the throne

[33:08] in martinez is going so far so one

[33:09] of the benefits

[33:12] is we are able to collect a lot

[33:15] of awesome data , not on your specific

[33:16] usage,

[33:18] I swear but on usage trends in general

[33:19] so

[33:20] we will go over that and time at the

[33:21] end if

[33:24] anyone has specific questions.

[33:27] jumping into how we

[33:29] got here today. Martinez was the 1st

[33:30] city to actually bring

[33:33] smart restrooms to the bay

[33:36] area and after you we had south

[33:38] san francisco and berkeley follow suit.

[33:42] one to highlight you as you are the

[33:44] leaders of innovation of the bay area

[33:45] when it comes to smart restrooms which

[33:47] has been exciting to see this newer

[33:48] innovative bathroom

[33:51] really take hold into your town

[33:54] and we have seen comments from

[33:57] users letting us know it has made

[33:59] it easier for residents to shop, dine

[34:00] and stay around main street

[34:03] known to have a public restroom option

[34:04] available

[34:06] to them. You might be

[34:07] wondering what is different about

[34:09] the thrown

[34:12] advised this public restroom something

[34:13] we're

[34:14] talking about today? The throne is a innovative

[34:15] new smart bathroom

[34:21] so it is ada compliant making it easy

[34:22] for folks to

[34:24] use even in a wheelchair,

[34:29] fast and flexible we can pick it up

[34:30] it is prefabricated and

[34:32] move it to the place we want to be

[34:33] in with no hookups and for

[34:35] that reason, no hassle, you don't

[34:36] have to have a sewage system or plumbing

[34:38] system underground and you don't have

[34:39] to have electrical hookups if you're

[34:42] able to access solar so that makes

[34:43] it easy for

[34:44] you to put it where you might need

[34:46] a portable bathroom.

[34:49] we also have smart systems

[34:50] in place that promote user accountability

[34:52] so while

[34:54] in some traditional bathrooms you

[34:55] may have issues

[34:58] around users using it or misusing

[35:01] the space we don't see that

[35:03] as much in throne because we have

[35:04] accountability

[35:06] systems built in and we have smart

[35:08] cleaning system we will talk more

[35:10] about where we are able

[35:11] to proactively and reactively clean

[35:18] thrones based off of usage patterns

[35:19] and we hold all the

[35:20] cleaning and maintenance for you.

[35:22] this slide

[35:24] says the same thing. Wanting the highlights,

[35:28] you don't have to do upfront capital cost

[35:31] where traditionally you may have to

[35:33] do a lot of planning to make a new

[35:34] public

[35:35] bathroom, this, you can deploy quickly

[35:37] because you

[35:39] don't have to spend the time planning

[35:43] and digging

[35:45] and doing the upfront capital that you would

[35:46] do

[35:47] in traditional bathrooms, able to

[35:49] deploy thrones within hours of knowing

[35:50] where

[35:52] we will put it and then planning

[35:53] in advance. Highlights include having

[35:55] a baby changing

[35:57] station in which we know parents comment

[35:58] they appreciate

[36:01] having a clean space to take their child

[36:04] into the restroom. We are

[36:07] launching this qr code

[36:10] integration with our system

[36:12] that makes it accessible for blind

[36:13] and low

[36:15] vision folks coming to all thrones

[36:19] fleetwide

[36:20] 2026 so we are excited to make it

[36:22] go beyond what is necessary

[36:25] to be ada compliant, but even

[36:28] become more accessible for a larger variety

[36:30] of folks and we have the option to

[36:31] add

[36:33] menstrual product dispensers and sharps

[36:34] containers and other things

[36:37] that make ours really accessible

[36:39] for a larger group of audience so this is

[36:40] a photo

[36:42] of what it might look like out in

[36:43] the wild.

[36:46] one of

[36:48] the things I mentioned was smart cleaning and

[36:51] the smart cleaning system is designed around

[36:52] a couple of

[36:55] different inputs. If we know the throne

[36:56] has

[36:57] been used a lot or folks are commenting

[36:58] the throne was

[37:01] really dirty, maybe somebody was washing

[37:03] their hands and they splashed everywhere

[37:06] where they had thrown the paper towels

[37:07] to the side rather than putting

[37:09] it in the bin users give us feedback,

[37:13] they ask how is the experience with

[37:16] throne today or can they rate cleanliness

[37:19] so if we start to see that going down

[37:20] that goes into the algorithm and how

[37:22] many times has

[37:25] the throne been used

[37:28] since the last clean as well as additional

[37:29] pieces

[37:30] that go into this formula. That tells

[37:31] us when do we need

[37:34] to go out and service the throne proactively

[37:35] so

[37:37] we can maintain a really sparkling

[37:38] service experience for any user who

[37:40] will use one

[37:43] so that's what the flow will look

[37:44] like

[37:45] a user uses the throne they are asked

[37:46] how it is

[37:49] that goes to the algorithm

[37:52] and you can see the algorithm of the

[37:53] cleaner who

[37:54] goes into clean the throne and send

[37:55] the update saying that it is good

[37:58] to go. So far

[38:00] while the throne has been in martinez

[38:01] here are results to date.

[38:04] from that cleanliness score that

[38:07] users are putting in

[38:10] after use we

[38:11] have maintained 4.3 out of 5 average

[38:12] cleanliness score for the duration

[38:13] of the time

[38:15] we had the throne which is pretty

[38:16] good anything

[38:19] over 4 is pretty remarkable. Seems

[38:21] like folks in martinez have taken

[38:22] good care of

[38:25] the throne and see it

[38:27] as part of their community. We can

[38:28] tell from

[38:31] pieces like

[38:32] there been no instances of vandalism

[38:34] to the bathroom and we have had

[38:37] no users with access restricted

[38:39] due to repeated misuse, to explain that

[38:40] we

[38:42] have this accountability mechanism built

[38:43] into the

[38:46] throne where if you're inside,

[38:49] your use is tied to a user id attached

[38:52] to your phone number

[38:55] so it does not tell us natasha is using

[38:57] the throne but user abc is using the throne

[39:01] and if the person goes in and misuses

[39:04] the throne which could mean they

[39:06] stay past the allotted 10 minute time

[39:07] period or

[39:10] their smoking in the throne or doing

[39:13] something else that can spark

[39:16] a sensor to tell us somebody is misusing it

[39:19] they will get a warning saying they

[39:20] have missed used

[39:22] the throne they are asked

[39:25] to not do it again

[39:27] and if they continue to misuse that

[39:28] they will have access restricted so

[39:30] that accountability is one of the

[39:31] ways we make sure folks are

[39:33] taking care of this shared resource.

[39:37] in martinez we have had 0% of

[39:40] total user base be restricted so it

[39:41] is being well

[39:43] taken care of it is not being vandalized

[39:44] and people

[39:45] having positive experience with how

[39:46] clean it is.

[39:49] we also see folks

[39:52] are not staying past the allotted time

[39:57] so, in 15 minutes 99.8% of people

[39:59] are leaving

[40:00] and most people take less than 2 minutes

[40:02] so it's not a place

[40:05] that's having any loitering or

[40:08] any vandalism issues. It has become

[40:09] a great shared resource and we see

[40:11] that in the data.

[40:13] one of the other positive things I

[40:14] wanted

[40:16] to highlight is 34% of users have

[40:17] come

[40:19] back more than once so this is a testament

[40:20] to

[40:22] how much this is a community resource,

[40:24] folks are using it multiple times.

[40:32] last year I want to share copy

[40:33] and pasted comments directly from users

[40:35] that they have shared with

[40:38] us. 1

[40:40] user uses the throne and asked how

[40:41] the

[40:43] expense was if they let us know on

[40:44] a

[40:46] scale of 1 to 5 over text they are

[40:47] asked if

[40:48] they would like to leave additional

[40:50] comments about their use.

[40:51] these are some comments that folks

[40:53] have shared

[40:56] and one of

[40:57] the best ones was amazing expense,

[40:58] I was panicking for any place for

[40:59] relief,

[41:02] this experience blew my mind,

[41:04] 10 out of 10 will be back again probably.

[41:07] great that folks are going out of

[41:08] their way to

[41:10] leave these positive comments and share

[41:14] their experience back with us

[41:16] and we want to make sure to share

[41:17] back with

[41:20] you all.

[41:26] I believe this slide up in case anyone

[41:27] is

[41:28] reading them but just wanted to pause.

[41:29] I know that was quick. Does anyone

[41:30] have

[41:31] questions or any high-level thoughts

[41:32] or reactions?

[41:34] >> all the council microphones are

[41:35] off, but they are

[41:36] giggling about it being a magical

[41:38] place.

[41:39] >> only disneyland is magical.

[41:41] >> I would like to state for the

[41:43] record when I have had friends, when

[41:44] we have

[41:46] been out and about and they have commented looking

[41:47] for a restroom or something

[41:50] and I remind them the throne is there

[41:53] and they come back and report

[41:56] that it

[41:57] was a magical place so that's real

[41:59] and it's possible that was my

[42:02] comment. Anyway,

[42:04] thank you very much for the report

[42:05] out, that is super

[42:06] helpful. Really nice to hear that

[42:08] there have been no

[42:11] recorded vandalism's because I know

[42:14] you know this, but we had put a party

[42:17] or 2 immediately adjacent

[42:20] to where the throne is located.

[42:23] it was a burned down,

[42:24] we constantly had to pay more because

[42:26] things like

[42:28] debris and needles and things you

[42:29] cannot clean were

[42:30] getting thrown in it. So it was becoming

[42:32] quite the headache. These

[42:35] great stats are perfect.

[42:38] it's exactly what we were going for and

[42:41] I want to congratulate you and thank

[42:42] you

[42:43] and the engineering team. I'm not sure

[42:46] if it was you or someone else who

[42:47] found this and brought

[42:50] it to us, someone researched it.

[42:53] so our chief of police

[42:56] brought it to us and we were in agreement

[42:58] that this would be worth the money

[42:59] because we could get

[43:02] it out rolling quickly and

[43:04] we did from the day we improved it

[43:07] it was up and running in 3 months

[43:08] or less.

[43:10] less than 90 days which was amazing.

[43:11] so it was proof

[43:14] of concept

[43:16] that has proven itself and turned

[43:17] out to be a really good

[43:19] solution. Those are my very positive comments

[43:23] so thank you, appreciate

[43:25] it.

[43:26] >> thank you so much for sharing

[43:27] that. More than happy to

[43:28] do additional readouts later if you

[43:29] want more data

[43:31] with updates. Thank you all for having

[43:32] me today

[43:34] and it was great to get a chance to

[43:35] join you.

[43:36] >> before

[43:38] you go, thank you so much for

[43:40] the presentation. I appreciate it,

[43:41] I loved

[43:44] what you said at the outset which

[43:45] is we were

[43:47] the 1st in the bay

[43:49] so I'm happy to hear that martinez

[43:50] has won the proverbial

[43:53] game of thrones

[43:55] , thank you for that sorry I could

[43:56] not resist.

[43:59] >> years that if you would like.

[44:02] >> one quick question for you

[44:05] which was that

[44:07] , you know when this concept came

[44:08] before us

[44:11] initially we were looking at a couple

[44:12] of different

[44:13] models if I am not mistaken. Looking

[44:14] at the portable

[44:17] versus one that was permanent

[44:19] and was the permanent theirs or not?

[44:23] >> it was a actual build. >>

[44:26] okay, so that answers that so

[44:29] thank you. My question was

[44:32] , do you have like

[44:35] I don't think there's a way to capture

[44:36] this

[44:38] unless people volunteer, but

[44:40] curious to know the demographics of

[44:41] the people using it because I

[44:44] would still venture particularly for

[44:45] senior citizen

[44:47] population it might be

[44:49] a little intimidating because they

[44:50] are not really familiar with

[44:53] the scanning and all

[44:56] that involved so just wondering how

[44:57] have

[44:59] you worked to address that? Do you

[45:00] will

[45:02] send out ambassadors to help?

[45:07] like for instance we have a big holiday

[45:08] parade coming up in a couple

[45:10] weeks and I would imagine it's going

[45:11] to get used a lot hopefully. In

[45:14] fact we might need more. I

[45:16] was wondering do you have thoughts

[45:17] on that in terms of

[45:20] you get maybe

[45:22] the elder population to be comfortable with

[45:27] the technology?

[45:28] >> I heard

[45:29] 2 questions and I will answer the

[45:30] 1st, question about

[45:32] if we know anything about demographics

[45:33] we don't

[45:36] and one of the

[45:38] rules is don't be creepy so we don't have

[45:42] a way we don't want to

[45:44] create a way of knowing anything much about

[45:48] our users.

[45:49] we want them to have that privacy

[45:51] so it's in the

[45:52] privacy policy where not collecting

[45:54] that demographic data

[45:56] so not be able to insert that part.

[46:00] the question

[46:01] of making it accessible for the elderly

[46:03] we have a few ways of entering, so

[46:05] on the front live a qr code that says

[46:08] scan to enter that gives you a shortcut

[46:09] to a text message

[46:11] when you scan a text message pre-populated

[46:14] will come up on the phone and you

[46:15] click send,

[46:18] we know scanning is the barrier

[46:21] you're mentioning. Some folks

[46:22] are little bit less familiar with

[46:24] how to use the phone

[46:25] to scan so there is another option

[46:27] underneath that says

[46:30] or text this word to this

[46:33] phone number and the throne

[46:35] will open. Instead of doing shortcut

[46:36] through

[46:38] the scan they can text directly and

[46:39] we find

[46:41] that makes it a little more accessible

[46:42] where

[46:44] some folks may want to scan because

[46:45] it's faster,

[46:48] they cannot figure that out

[46:50] or if the phone is unable to get the

[46:51] qr

[46:52] code to work, some people struggle

[46:54] with that and they

[46:56] are able to use the text message option.

[46:57] >>

[47:00] thank you so much

[47:02] really helpful to know.

[47:03] >> question

[47:04] for the

[47:05] city manager for a short time we were

[47:06] talking about a 3rd option

[47:09] of having physical cards

[47:11] you could use, did we ever roll it out?

[47:15] >> we did get

[47:18] some cards. Interesting because this

[47:19] conversation

[47:21] about demographic and such that

[47:23] training either already has occurred

[47:27] will be scheduled at the senior

[47:28] center. We are going to do that for

[47:30] that reason

[47:33] in case people still see the barrier.

[47:36] but again , trying

[47:38] to encourage them through education

[47:42] to use the options available on the throne

[47:45] with the hopefully distant 3rd the

[47:47] cards themselves and there's a limited

[47:51] quantity anyway

[47:54] it is a finite number. How those will

[47:56] be distributed is up for discussion

[47:57] obviously the senior center

[47:58] is a logical place to host that so

[48:00] that is in the works.

[48:02] >> I have only ever received one complaint

[48:06] because they

[48:08] were struggling trying to get in. Otherwise

[48:09] I have received nothing

[48:12] but positive responses and I

[48:13] was surprised oftentimes with qr codes there

[48:15] is some thinking that

[48:18] the phone does but because this will

[48:19] prompt

[48:21] a pre-populated text message

[48:22] it is way simpler and sort of happens

[48:24] and you send it and the

[48:27] door opens so it becomes more intuitive

[48:30] than people might be concerned

[48:33] that it would be.

[48:36] I have only received

[48:38] one has anyone in council received complaints

[48:39] or compliments or concerns from the

[48:41] public?

[48:42] >> complements more than anything.

[48:45] were appreciative of the fact we responded

[48:48] to the need , the prior set

[48:51] up was placing

[48:53] undue burden on some downtown businesses

[48:54] so they

[48:56] very much appreciated. If anything

[49:00] I'm glad based on tonight's presentation

[49:02] I would love to find ways to see how

[49:03] we could bring an additional

[49:06] 1 at some point down the road

[49:08] but given where we are with financial.

[49:09] thank

[49:12] you.

[49:13] >> thank you

[49:15] , did you have a question?

[49:18] >> I wanted to commend you because

[49:19] this

[49:21] is amazing. I never thought we would

[49:22] get this far

[49:24] in and have 0 vandalism so whatever

[49:26] you're doing holding people accountable

[49:27] seems

[49:30] to work well I wish you

[49:32] would come down take over all parks because

[49:36] 0 vandalism is amazing

[49:39] and I get rave reviews,

[49:41] I walked downtown all the time and

[49:42] I get

[49:45] rave reviews from people down there

[49:46] quite often.

[49:48] I saw one person struggling to

[49:51] get in. And then one of the

[49:54] business owners took his time, came

[49:55] over and showed

[49:57] him the process

[50:00] and it worked out wonderful. So yes.

[50:06] I am a big fan and thank you.

[50:07] >> of

[50:08] course, one follow-up comment we

[50:09] can see the breakdown of how many

[50:10] people are entering via

[50:11] the text and how many are entering

[50:12] via

[50:15] the app and martinez overtime has

[50:18] moved more toward the app so

[50:22] they are 20% of total

[50:23] users individual users getting into

[50:25] the app so they are starting to

[50:27] see this as this is something that

[50:28] will

[50:29] be here forever and we want to go

[50:31] ahead and download

[50:33] the app because it's going to make

[50:34] it faster for them

[50:35] to open. In the app they can click

[50:37] one button that says

[50:39] begin use and they can walk in and

[50:40] we have seen

[50:43] that number the percentage

[50:45] took up overtime.

[50:46] >> that's great.

[50:49] >> I did not know there was

[50:51] an app and I have been paying attention

[50:54] . Thank you so much for joining us

[50:55] tonight. Really

[50:58] appreciate it. Say hello to

[51:00] the gang for us. We saw some of the

[51:04] throne

[51:05] folks at the conference in long beach

[51:06] and they give us the spectacular pins

[51:07] in

[51:08] the shape of thrones and we were wearing

[51:10] them and everyone

[51:12] was jealous and I'm really sad I forgot

[51:13] mine at home.

[51:15] >> really cool they create a conversation.

[51:16] people ask why do

[51:19] you have a throne ?

[51:20] >> thank you, have a great evening.

[51:22] >> have

[51:24] a great one everyone.

[51:25] >> all right,

[51:27] let's proceed through the agenda,

[51:28] I skipped

[51:31] public comment so I will

[51:32] go back to public comment then back

[51:34] to the consent calendar item.

[51:40] we

[51:41] don't normally take comments on the presentation

[51:44] but you are welcome to talk during

[51:45] public comment because we're going

[51:46] into

[51:48] it now so I can call on your 1st.

[51:49] okay so I have one

[51:52] speaker card and you can step up

[51:55] after that. 1st

[51:58] up.

[52:00] >> hard to follow that last presentation

[52:01] but I will

[52:04] try. Hello I live in

[52:07] pleasant hill I am here to as

[52:09] for the councils help with preventable

[52:11] public health crisis directly impacting

[52:13] the city's district 3

[52:16] and a lot more. We need

[52:18] help getting unleaded aviation fuel

[52:22] into the

[52:23] county buchanan field, years after

[52:25] other airports offer the widely available

[52:27] unleaded fuel, buchanan continues

[52:28] to

[52:31] only offer

[52:33] toxic leaded fuel, each propeller

[52:34] plane flying out of concord

[52:37] releases an estimated 2.3 teaspoons

[52:38] of

[52:40] toxic lead dust per hour.

[52:43] in 2016 there were over 122,000

[52:46] takeoffs and landings , that's a lot

[52:49] of lead. Flight schools based at

[52:52] buchanan burn leaded fuel

[52:55] as they do loops around the airfield

[52:56] all

[52:57] day long every day, our concern needs

[52:58] to focus on the counties

[53:01] lack of concern.

[53:03] please read the airport director's

[53:04] county

[53:06] website update regarding the transition

[53:07] to

[53:10] unleaded fuel it states that an

[53:13] unleaded option has been on the market

[53:16] for the last 6 years and

[53:19] he added only 68%

[53:25] of the

[53:27] piston powered planes can use it. He is

[53:28] pointing out the failure of the county

[53:30] to provide 60% of all propeller planes with an

[53:31] unleaded option for the last

[53:33] 6 years. Shame on them, lead is a

[53:34] well-known health risk delaying

[53:37] 6 years seems criminal what

[53:40] can we do? 1st, read about

[53:43] san jose's read

[53:45] hillview airport horrible results

[53:46] from a study in 2020

[53:49] on the lead levels

[53:52] in children's blood, they absorb easily

[53:55] and is only causes permanent

[53:57] cognitive damage. Next contact supervisor

[54:01] preston scales she is aware of the

[54:04] health crisis,

[54:06] urge her to use community benefit

[54:07] award funds to offer incentives to

[54:08] pilots so

[54:09] they will use unleaded fuel. Next,

[54:10] contact supervisor

[54:13] john , one of the

[54:16] reps on the board of the bay area

[54:17] air district and

[54:19] ask him to get

[54:21] blood testing done within a mile and

[54:22] a half of the end of the

[54:24] runway's of buchanan. In 2021 john

[54:25] and the board petitioned

[54:28] the state health department to do more

[54:31] blood testing at other airports,

[54:33] the air board told us it has a lot

[54:34] of money from fines. Our

[54:37] families need a study

[54:39] so they can know the danger and how

[54:40] to deal with it.

[54:42] I believe there are 7000 kids attending

[54:43] school within

[54:46] 1 1/2

[54:47] miles of buchanan, please work to

[54:49] protect kids from these lead spewing

[54:52] flying recreational vehicles.

[54:55] thank you.

[54:56] >>

[54:58] thank you all right. Would you like

[55:01] to comment? Come up

[55:04] to the microphone, otherwise people

[55:05] online cannot

[55:07] hear your.

[55:10] >> I was going to ask about this throne

[55:11] was

[55:12] going to keep people from sleeping

[55:13] in it? You know at nighttime the homeless

[55:17] people or whatever ?

[55:20] >> I think

[55:23] has natasha hung up

[55:26] the phone ? I

[55:27] will answer the question and we can

[55:28] get more information. Because of the

[55:29] way

[55:32] that the throne

[55:34] the way it works the doors automatically

[55:35] open

[55:36] after a set amount of time so they

[55:38] inherently cannot sleep in it because

[55:41] I have regular monitoring with

[55:44] access, via the phones so

[55:45] they are able to know someone is in

[55:47] there exceeding the 15 minute limit.

[55:49] that was the data she presented.

[55:50] >>

[55:53] thank you.

[55:56] some easier than having her.

[55:59] is anyone else in the

[56:00] council chambers with public comment

[56:02] this evening?

[56:08] would you like to?

[56:11] are you good? Okay

[56:13] all right how about in the virtual audience?

[56:17] >> for those attending virtually

[56:18] please use the raise hand feature now.

[56:26] I have no hands.

[56:29] >> all right will come back to

[56:30] council, sorry for rearranging the

[56:32] agenda as a reminder

[56:34] consent calendar we did approve items

[56:38] 5 through 12 and 14 through 16

[56:41] and we pulled item 13 which

[56:42] is adopt a resolution approving public

[56:46] art application. So I think you pulled

[56:47] 1st would

[56:48] you like to ask your questions?

[56:49] >>

[56:50] sure, thank you. I don't

[56:52] believe I am the only one that wanted

[56:53] to pull for

[56:56] additional questions.

[56:57] I have a couple of questions, the

[56:59] 1st one has to do with

[57:02] staff report there was a mention

[57:03] because I know we asked for neighbors

[57:05] to be notified and it did indicate

[57:08] november 7 there were notices

[57:11] distributed to the neighbors

[57:14] , that is all that it

[57:15] said in the staff report. There was

[57:17] not any follow-up

[57:19] if anyone had concerns or comments or

[57:20] anything like that

[57:23] so I was curious if we had

[57:25] information along those lines that

[57:26] we wanted to hear

[57:29] about tonight.

[57:32] >> so, in the notices

[57:35] we directed people to use the public comment

[57:38] when the agenda is posted so we

[57:40] did provide information about when

[57:41] that would

[57:44] be posted and also

[57:45] provided my direct contact information

[57:47] and I received

[57:50] one inquiry on how to submit

[57:52] public comment and provided the agenda information

[57:53] for

[57:56] that person.

[57:58] >> okay, thank you. My other questions

[57:59] have to

[58:01] do with some of the feedback that

[58:02] we provided

[58:05] in altering

[58:08] , somewhat the mural.

[58:11] I'm not sure

[58:14] what we asked for or what we

[58:16] had wanted the artist to consider was

[58:17] reflected

[58:20] in the new potential

[58:23] drawing.

[58:25] so I want to point out a couple of

[58:26] things. So the

[58:29] 1st drawing, the original has some beautiful

[58:32] little fish along the central

[58:35] and that actually

[58:38] kind of blends talking about stylistic

[58:41] and having everything planned

[58:44] the 2nd, the newest one to me

[58:47] not really

[58:50] conformed to our request to

[58:53] have it more stylistic

[58:56] content consistent

[58:59] that is one of my comments

[59:01] and we talked about the silhouette

[59:02] figures and we

[59:05] were not really

[59:07] we wanted something different from

[59:08] the silhouettes

[59:10] which is the black silhouettes in the

[59:11] upper

[59:14] right side so those are now , there

[59:17] is additional silhouette figures

[59:18] and I thought we talked about alternates

[59:20] to that.

[59:22] and I think there was another comment

[59:23] in the staff

[59:25] report about the boy on the skateboard

[59:29] and that seemed

[59:30] to be looking identical. So I'm not

[59:32] really sure that this

[59:35] rendering reflected what we had asked.

[59:38] so I just wanted to kind of put those

[59:41] comments out. On the original, the

[59:44] girl and all the greenery

[59:47] and the water because the water reflects

[59:50] the

[59:51] straits and the fish I did like that

[59:53] I think that is beautiful I don't

[59:56] know that I like

[59:58] the random flowers and things in the

[59:59] 2nd rendering

[1:00:01] it takes away from the waterfront and

[1:00:04] we wanted to have that reflected.

[1:00:08] those are some

[1:00:10] of my comments. I will let my colleagues

[1:00:11] express their comments.

[1:00:12] >> to piggyback

[1:00:14] on your comment regarding the ,

[1:00:17] the figure , the children figures,

[1:00:20] I thought we had said

[1:00:23] to decide if they were going

[1:00:25] to be silhouettes or if they were

[1:00:26] going to

[1:00:29] be lifelike. So, it

[1:00:32] appears from the

[1:00:34] update, that there was no changes

[1:00:35] to the children

[1:00:38] imagery

[1:00:41] there is still the, they are the same

[1:00:42] and

[1:00:44] I thought that was one of the key pieces

[1:00:47] to establish some consistency on the

[1:00:50] visual look of the

[1:00:53] young people. And then,

[1:00:56] I also had the

[1:00:59] question that

[1:01:01] that you brought up in terms of what

[1:01:03] was feedback from

[1:01:04] the surveys so that was addressed

[1:01:11] >> so just want to share we do have

[1:01:15] mce and the artist

[1:01:17] are present at tonight's meeting virtually

[1:01:20] so they can add to the information

[1:01:24] staff is going to share we

[1:01:25] did include in the written staff report

[1:01:27] a table

[1:01:29] which summarize the comments expressed

[1:01:30] by

[1:01:33] the council with a response, in terms

[1:01:36] of how the artist revised

[1:01:39] the mural design.

[1:01:42] the intent of doing that

[1:01:44] was because, there is a couple locations

[1:01:45] where

[1:01:47] the changes are ever so subtle. But

[1:01:51] when you have the ability of

[1:01:54] blowing it up and having it more in

[1:01:55] scale with what we will ultimately

[1:01:57] see, those changes are more apparent.

[1:01:58] a good example of that is with the

[1:02:03] boy figure so the

[1:02:06] boy figure how

[1:02:09] the boy is slightly different

[1:02:10] in particular the outline and it is

[1:02:12] being revised

[1:02:15] so the outline style

[1:02:16] is more consistent with the outline

[1:02:18] style of the primary

[1:02:21] woman figure in the foreground.

[1:02:27] >> I get that and I look at

[1:02:28] the comments in terms of what we propose

[1:02:30] and what the outcome was but

[1:02:33] I very specifically remember

[1:02:36] us making note

[1:02:39] determining which style we're

[1:02:42] going to use

[1:02:45] if we're going to make them all looked childlike

[1:02:47] and then the silhouettes should have been

[1:02:50] childlike or if the decision was to

[1:02:51] make them silhouettes and

[1:02:54] make everybody. So

[1:02:56] to the point, it seems like that was

[1:03:00] not addressed

[1:03:06] >>

[1:03:07] I think it may be helpful if we can check

[1:03:09] with the artist.

[1:03:12] timothy hahn.

[1:03:21] >>

[1:03:24] tim has been promoted it will take

[1:03:27] a 2nd.

[1:03:28] >>

[1:03:30] hi can you hear me?

[1:03:33] to address that,

[1:03:35] a lot of this has to do with not overwhelming

[1:03:39] the viewer so there is a

[1:03:42] visual hierarchy. We want a focal

[1:03:43] point and we

[1:03:45] want it to read we can

[1:03:48] definitely add details, but

[1:03:50] they are intentionally left simple

[1:03:54] so that it does not take

[1:03:55] away from the focal point, the main

[1:03:57] character and the 2nd read

[1:03:59] might be the kid where the flowers

[1:04:00] and the

[1:04:03] 3rd or 4th or 5th

[1:04:06] might be the children playing. So

[1:04:08] when it comes down to it I know they

[1:04:09] look like

[1:04:11] silhouettes and we will add detail

[1:04:12] as we do

[1:04:14] that, but a little bit of detail,

[1:04:17] just enough to make it fit but not enough

[1:04:21] to compete with the other things that

[1:04:22] is

[1:04:24] kind of my take.

[1:04:25] >> I appreciate that.

[1:04:27] looking at the children behind the

[1:04:28] young

[1:04:29] man on the skateboard, they look more lifelike.

[1:04:33] have a little more color than

[1:04:36] the silhouette so for me I

[1:04:37] don't think that's going to significantly

[1:04:39] disrupt the imagery

[1:04:42] , but again that was a

[1:04:45] specific ask out of this

[1:04:48] body, in particular if

[1:04:51] you look at , with the

[1:04:54] proposed design , the sunflowers have

[1:04:57] been removed so I do

[1:05:00] not think that making those

[1:05:02] silhouette children consistent with

[1:05:05] the ones behind the skateboarder is

[1:05:06] going

[1:05:09] to materially disturb this

[1:05:12] , this mural.

[1:05:15] >> I understand. Apologize for

[1:05:18] that. I thought you are mainly talking

[1:05:19] about

[1:05:21] the kid on the

[1:05:23] skateboard side and I missed that

[1:05:24] part.

[1:05:25] >> no problem.

[1:05:27] >> can I jump in? Hi

[1:05:30] thank you for clarifying. Is

[1:05:33] it possible to have those

[1:05:36] the black

[1:05:38] silhouettes kind of resemble more

[1:05:39] of the children

[1:05:40] on the bottom left? Is that something you

[1:05:42] could incorporate as a 2nd revision?

[1:05:45] is that something that

[1:05:48] you can do?

[1:05:51] >> yes we can definitely do

[1:05:54] that. Yes. I would love

[1:05:56] to do that on the fly with you guys

[1:05:57] if we get the

[1:06:00] approval and if we could not miss

[1:06:03] another month

[1:06:05] for approvals but yes my answer is

[1:06:06] yes we can definitely

[1:06:09] make that little more detailed

[1:06:12] than it is.

[1:06:13] >> okay thank you.

[1:06:15] before you got promoted onto

[1:06:18] the meeting I had made a comment about

[1:06:22] the fish that

[1:06:23] were in the original drawing and I

[1:06:25] feel like to me

[1:06:28] that is very beautiful

[1:06:29] and elegant and reflects the waterfront

[1:06:32] and the replacement with the flowers

[1:06:34] and other things

[1:06:37] I feel that,

[1:06:38] that actually takes away from the

[1:06:40] center image. It

[1:06:43] is distracting from the center

[1:06:46] image.

[1:06:47] >> can

[1:06:48] I jump in for a 2nd? I did reach out

[1:06:49] to a couple

[1:06:50] members of the public and they were very

[1:06:52] excited and supportive so

[1:06:54] I want to make sure we are not over

[1:06:57] projecting our personal artistic opinions

[1:07:00] on this particular design because

[1:07:04] I think there's a lot of ways

[1:07:06] murals like this can go so just so

[1:07:08] you know your comment now sort of

[1:07:10] negates your comment

[1:07:12] so we're back to neutral because she

[1:07:13] was super stoked

[1:07:15] on that.

[1:07:16] >> I would like to say I

[1:07:17] am super

[1:07:18] not stoked and I like the original

[1:07:19] rendering because I think

[1:07:22] it more reflects the waterfront

[1:07:23] and the picture, the blue around the

[1:07:25] center image

[1:07:28] really makes the image stand out

[1:07:31] a little bit

[1:07:32] more from the background and if you

[1:07:33] like the flowers are competing and

[1:07:34] that is I

[1:07:35] guess my personal opinion but I think

[1:07:37] others may share that.

[1:07:41] >> can I ask a clarifying question?

[1:07:43] in regards to

[1:07:46] the flowers ,

[1:07:49] if you could please

[1:07:51] transition to the other image. Okay so

[1:07:55] , if you are facing

[1:07:58] the mural , directly down and

[1:08:01] to the right of the primary

[1:08:03] female figure there is the flowers

[1:08:04] there were previously

[1:08:07] so I understand the comment

[1:08:10] in regards to that.

[1:08:13] do you share that same comment

[1:08:15] in regards to how the flowers have

[1:08:16] been added

[1:08:19] underneath text in the lower right-hand

[1:08:22] corner of the image? Or is it

[1:08:24] just the one portion immediately adjacent

[1:08:25] to

[1:08:28] the female figure that you are

[1:08:30] having problems with?

[1:08:31] >> for me is

[1:08:32] the flowers to the

[1:08:34] right of the child.

[1:08:37] and where the 2

[1:08:40] leaves and the fish were.

[1:08:41] >>

[1:08:43] thank you for clarifying.

[1:08:46] >> does anyone have

[1:08:48] any other comments about this, just

[1:08:52] those few?

[1:08:53] >>

[1:08:54] I really appreciate how we brought

[1:08:55] the

[1:08:57] boys and girls club logo forward.

[1:09:01] I think that is wonderful to call out.

[1:09:06] and I really appreciate all the hard work.

[1:09:10] >> if it is

[1:09:12] okay I will open up to public comment

[1:09:13] if we have any

[1:09:16] then we will bring it back anyone

[1:09:17] in

[1:09:18] council chambers wants to comment

[1:09:19] on the art? Yes,

[1:09:22] go ahead.

[1:09:23] >>

[1:09:24] why she the main focal part she's

[1:09:25] not a child? The other thing I think

[1:09:26] it

[1:09:28] should be more based on the kids that

[1:09:30] actually used to go to the boys and

[1:09:31] girls club that

[1:09:34] went to go play basketball

[1:09:36] and have a good time and get together

[1:09:37] as children. That is what

[1:09:40] should be, the unity of children

[1:09:42] getting together as a focal point

[1:09:43] on the building rather

[1:09:46] than flowers and whatever.

[1:09:48] you have that in the background maybe,

[1:09:49] but the main

[1:09:52] part is the children.

[1:09:55] thank you.

[1:09:58] >> thank you.

[1:10:01] any other comments?

[1:10:04] how about in the

[1:10:05] virtual audience anyone with comments on

[1:10:07] this item?

[1:10:08] >>

[1:10:10] please use the raise hand feature.

[1:10:16] I have no

[1:10:19] hands.

[1:10:20] >> I will bring this back

[1:10:22] to council. I appreciate the comments that

[1:10:25] debbie made. I think what I heard

[1:10:27] was that there is a couple of comments

[1:10:31] we would like to

[1:10:32] see incorporated, my preference would

[1:10:34] be to prove this evening so they can

[1:10:37] move forward. Does anyone

[1:10:39] on council have concerns with approving

[1:10:40] while making note

[1:10:43] of the comments?

[1:10:46] >>

[1:10:49] if we approve it, how do we

[1:10:51] have any kind of visual rendering

[1:10:52] of what's going up onto

[1:10:55] the wall of the boys and

[1:10:58] girls club?

[1:10:59] >> well michael did you

[1:11:01] want to respond?

[1:11:02] >> can I recommend

[1:11:04] if there is support from the council

[1:11:06] you could designate one member on

[1:11:07] the council that staff

[1:11:10] will share the revised proposal

[1:11:13] in response to

[1:11:15] your specific direction to ensure

[1:11:16] that it is in

[1:11:19] adherence with that direction.

[1:11:25] >>

[1:11:28] this is the most

[1:11:30] comments our council has ever provided

[1:11:31] on any art that has gone up on the

[1:11:33] walls and I think we are overthinking this

[1:11:36] and I don't think we should be providing

[1:11:37] input like that so that is

[1:11:40] my opinion.

[1:11:43] if I am outvoted that's fine if the

[1:11:44] rest of my

[1:11:45] counselor like to have somebody who

[1:11:46] follows us to otherwise every other

[1:11:47] art piece

[1:11:48] we have approved at 75% conceptual level

[1:11:51] and we have entrusted the artist to

[1:11:53] paint it and

[1:11:55] I would like to point out tim has

[1:11:57] been the artist for all the other

[1:11:58] murals and everyone has been okay

[1:11:59] up

[1:12:01] to this point so I'm not super excited

[1:12:02] about

[1:12:05] holding go ahead.

[1:12:08] >> to

[1:12:09] me this is a little different because

[1:12:11] I think there is

[1:12:13] an understanding I had it changed

[1:12:14] last time

[1:12:15] there was a understanding or misunderstanding that

[1:12:19] this had to do with the boys and girls club

[1:12:20] we

[1:12:21] had a speaker talk about that and

[1:12:23] in actuality

[1:12:24] this does not have to do necessarily with

[1:12:28] the boys and girls club this is about

[1:12:31] an energy company talking about the future.

[1:12:33] so it is confusing because when I

[1:12:35] was here I thought it had to do

[1:12:37] with the boys and girls club and had

[1:12:38] the same questions where

[1:12:41] they're not children why does it not

[1:12:42] reflect the boys and girls club so

[1:12:44] I was mistaken

[1:12:46] so this is more about the energy company

[1:12:47] and

[1:12:50] and the mce and their vision and

[1:12:53] their future and the vibrancy of

[1:12:56] the company.

[1:12:57] >> I'm sorry.

[1:12:58] mce is the utility company that provides

[1:12:59] energy not

[1:13:02] an arbitrary company

[1:13:04] that has come in.

[1:13:05] >> correct they

[1:13:06] provide energy. It

[1:13:07] is different from a merrill that depicts

[1:13:11] you know the animals on the

[1:13:14] floor and that's not

[1:13:16] very controversial or has any issues

[1:13:17] or

[1:13:20] whatever. To me it is different I

[1:13:22] feel this is different where it is placed

[1:13:23] and

[1:13:26] what they are depicting it

[1:13:27] is a little bit different from the

[1:13:29] other murals that we have had I want

[1:13:31] to make sure that we are all in agreement

[1:13:32] and what

[1:13:33] it is reflecting in the consistency

[1:13:35] in the image across the entirety?

[1:13:41] >>

[1:13:44] thank you does anyone have any other comments?

[1:13:53] >> with a lack of comments would

[1:13:56] anyone be interested in making

[1:13:59] a motion?

[1:14:02] I will make a motion that we approve

[1:14:05] this

[1:14:08] art proposed proposed to

[1:14:11] us sorry. Which

[1:14:14] is item 13

[1:14:17] item 13 on the consent

[1:14:20] calendar.

[1:14:21] >>

[1:14:28] >> does that include the suggestions

[1:14:29] around the children?

[1:14:32] >> I will restate.

[1:14:35] I'm a we adopt

[1:14:36] resolution approving the public art

[1:14:38] application and proposed mural to

[1:14:41] include the recommendation provided

[1:14:44] by council but not requiring it and

[1:14:47] allowing the artist to have

[1:14:49] artistic license with the final design.

[1:14:50] >> 2nd.

[1:14:53] >> all in favor please say aye.

[1:14:59] any opposed any abstaining?

[1:15:02] >> the motion passes.

[1:15:05] >> to put it on the record

[1:15:08] if there is as staff

[1:15:09] determines a more significant departure

[1:15:11] from the direction where the

[1:15:12] recommendations that were provided

[1:15:14] this evening,

[1:15:16] similar to what happened with another mural

[1:15:20] we would bring it back to the

[1:15:21] entire council for consideration.

[1:15:22] >>

[1:15:26] thank

[1:15:27] you. Moving on public hearing items

[1:15:29] number 18 I know this is why the rest

[1:15:30] of

[1:15:31] you are here this evening conduct

[1:15:32] public hearing and adopt resolution

[1:15:35] adopting the

[1:15:38] marina fee schedule.

[1:15:39] >> we have a

[1:15:40] general business item

[1:15:41] number 17.

[1:15:42] >> sorry I skipped it receive

[1:15:43] update whole discussion provide input

[1:15:44] to staff on the 2526 general fund budget

[1:15:45] and

[1:15:47] cip project list. Thank you, I am

[1:15:50] so sorry.

[1:15:51] >> so tonight

[1:15:53] we will give you a brief

[1:15:55] check in on where we are with the

[1:15:56] budget and where we are with

[1:15:59] capital improvements.

[1:16:01] to lead us in the presentation I will

[1:16:02] turn it over to assistant city manager.

[1:16:05] >> great, thank you. I will try to

[1:16:06] keep

[1:16:08] this brief and we have folks for the

[1:16:11] next item so bear with me if I

[1:16:13] talk a little fast. As mike mentioned

[1:16:14] when we adopted

[1:16:17] the annual budget for this fiscal

[1:16:18] year we made

[1:16:20] a commitment to come back to you before

[1:16:22] regularly scheduled midyear review

[1:16:23] in the fall

[1:16:26] to say checking on how we are doing

[1:16:28] for the economic uncertainty that

[1:16:29] we had.

[1:16:32] the information that

[1:16:34] fit into this report is from july

[1:16:35] 1 to october 31.

[1:16:38] a little over 1/4.

[1:16:41] junior sitting here next to me,

[1:16:43] in case there is detailed questions,

[1:16:44] we will do our

[1:16:46] best to pull up details on the fly

[1:16:47] , but

[1:16:49] I will give a pretty good check in

[1:16:50] on various

[1:16:53] department budgets that I think

[1:16:55] were of higher interest during the

[1:16:57] budget adoption back

[1:17:00] in june. And as a reminder we

[1:17:02] do have our midyear review which is

[1:17:06] more comprehensive, more detail

[1:17:09] , that's coming up in february.

[1:17:11] so a quick agenda I will provide a

[1:17:14] budget overview sort of where we were

[1:17:18] when we adopted the budget,

[1:17:19] what were the conditions, I will be

[1:17:21] focusing tonight

[1:17:23] progress on the general fund, expenditures

[1:17:25] and revenues. I will give a brief

[1:17:29] marina fund update although I know

[1:17:30] that

[1:17:31] will be the focus of one of the upcoming

[1:17:33] items and then our public works

[1:17:36] director will provide a cip

[1:17:38] update, everything fairly high-level.

[1:17:41] a quick strategic plan alignment, this

[1:17:45] item tonight aligns with goal

[1:17:48] a fiscal around

[1:17:49] financial sustainability. A quick

[1:17:51] budget overview.

[1:17:54] going into this fiscal year

[1:17:56] we had various cost drivers and revenue drivers

[1:18:00] that went into the formation of the

[1:18:01] budget ultimately resulting in a starting

[1:18:03] deficit of $1.5 million

[1:18:09] so I will not go through each

[1:18:10] of these individually, but you may

[1:18:11] recall cost drivers include continued

[1:18:12] increases to

[1:18:14] insurance, continued labor increases

[1:18:15] due

[1:18:18] to cola and step and

[1:18:20] merit increases, unfunded liabilities

[1:18:23] which are said to continue ramping

[1:18:24] up

[1:18:27] starting this fiscal year over the

[1:18:29] next 5 years as well as retiree health

[1:18:30] and

[1:18:31] of course one of our biggest cost

[1:18:33] drivers which is the general

[1:18:36] fund support to the marina

[1:18:39] which has continued to be a subsidy, year-over-year.

[1:18:42] on the revenue side

[1:18:44] as we have reported over a handful

[1:18:45] of years now

[1:18:48] expenses are just rising

[1:18:50] at a pace faster than revenue is increasing.

[1:18:54] so, there has been

[1:18:56] slowing revenue over the last couple

[1:18:57] of years, of

[1:18:59] course we know there's a lot of economic

[1:19:01] uncertainty now we are keeping track

[1:19:03] of so we have budgeted

[1:19:06] underperforming sales tax

[1:19:09] with reduced permit, we budgeted

[1:19:10] for reduced permit and inspection

[1:19:12] revenues although

[1:19:14] I think I have good news tonight about

[1:19:15] that, lower

[1:19:18] interest income

[1:19:19] and lower-than-expected franchise

[1:19:21] fees. So how did we deal with that

[1:19:23] when we were here in june trying to

[1:19:26] figure out how to close the $1.5 million gap?

[1:19:29] all of the departments came together and

[1:19:32] every single department submitted

[1:19:35] budget cuts, I want to remind you

[1:19:36] that there is

[1:19:38] no potential to restore the budget cuts,

[1:19:41] these are ongoing budget cuts that have

[1:19:44] to remain until we figure out more revenue.

[1:19:47] until we find more revenue so budget

[1:19:48] cuts what

[1:19:51] we did was we looked at

[1:19:53] 3 year trends across all city departments

[1:19:54] and

[1:19:57] we focused on making sure we could

[1:19:59] maintain baseline services or core services

[1:20:02] and anything that was nice to have

[1:20:03] that could

[1:20:06] be deferred is what we focused

[1:20:08] on reducing. So, in administration

[1:20:11] a lot of this was looking holistically

[1:20:14] at all departments were clean above supplies,

[1:20:17] meeting costs, training, we centralize costs

[1:20:21] to make it more efficient. We took

[1:20:23] a good look at part-time staff, even

[1:20:24] full-time staff when

[1:20:27] we were feeling the vacancies.

[1:20:30] we could achieve budget savings by

[1:20:35] filling a position later in the fiscal year,

[1:20:36] we opted to do that.

[1:20:37] as always we looked at consultants

[1:20:39] and really considered the minimum need

[1:20:42] for the city. So we

[1:20:44] did give up our emergency services contract

[1:20:47] that was under the police department.

[1:20:48] we

[1:20:51] gave up a planning consultant to defer

[1:20:54] short term housing

[1:20:57] and we reduced , for the reduced

[1:21:00] planning on call consultant

[1:21:03] within the planning department.

[1:21:06] we also eliminated private security

[1:21:09] at

[1:21:11] the homeless and this was a priority

[1:21:12] robust conversation

[1:21:15] we were dust maintenance

[1:21:20] but it was based on 3 year trends

[1:21:21] we felt good about. In

[1:21:23] light of these budget reductions we

[1:21:24] made if you recall

[1:21:27] we also increased we chose

[1:21:29] to increase city manager contingency budget

[1:21:32] up to 130,000 so the thought was if

[1:21:33] something came up, we

[1:21:36] have some wiggle room we can go to

[1:21:38] the city manager and request it for

[1:21:39] . So,

[1:21:42] a very quick progress report on current

[1:21:45] general fund, this always looks

[1:21:47] pretty stunning after the 1st quarter because

[1:21:50] we always have a lot more expenses

[1:21:51] than we do revenue

[1:21:54] so I want to caution how

[1:21:56] we look at the information. Early

[1:21:57] expenses come in right in july

[1:22:00] which is the

[1:22:02] up from pension and insurance payments,

[1:22:03] large lump-sum payments

[1:22:05] along with all the typical labor costs

[1:22:08] that happen in the 1st several months

[1:22:09] of the fiscal year. And

[1:22:12] then on the revenue side while we

[1:22:13] are collecting

[1:22:16] sales tax and franchise fees and

[1:22:19] cannabis fees

[1:22:21] are not collecting property tax. So

[1:22:22] we don't get property

[1:22:23] tax until later so that is why there

[1:22:25] is a significant

[1:22:27] imbalance. On the expenditure side

[1:22:28] I

[1:22:29] will give a quick highlight on some

[1:22:31] of the, how the

[1:22:34] department's are doing, but

[1:22:36] if you look at this slide here we are

[1:22:39] doing fine. We are 41% a budget, we

[1:22:40] don't see any

[1:22:42] red flags, as I mentioned up from

[1:22:46] we spent $7.6

[1:22:47] million toward insurance and pensions in

[1:22:49] july. Our

[1:22:51] operating expenses are tracking with

[1:22:52] budget. There has

[1:22:55] been no impact to core services

[1:22:58] and I was

[1:22:59] telling this to somebody earlier.

[1:23:01] since I have been

[1:23:02] here this is the 1st quarter where

[1:23:04] we have

[1:23:06] not had an emergency. So in the past

[1:23:07] we had

[1:23:10] a mercury spill or the incident

[1:23:12] that occurred where we needed to run high

[1:23:16] on police overtime or

[1:23:17] help with certain department expenses

[1:23:21] and we are tracking just well for once

[1:23:22] , so we're

[1:23:23] happy to hear that. Let me explain

[1:23:25] briefly because

[1:23:28] these items came up in

[1:23:29] the budget process, repair and maintenance,

[1:23:31] we have 52%

[1:23:34] that has been spent

[1:23:38] overall, so far. About $3.2 million

[1:23:40] repair maintenance budget across the city.

[1:23:43] namely what we

[1:23:44] are tracking if there's anything high

[1:23:46] it is

[1:23:49] utilities across the city that

[1:23:51] we have seen that might come in a

[1:23:52] little over budget.'s we will track

[1:23:54] for the midyear and if we have to

[1:23:55] make changes

[1:23:58] down the road we will. I did talk

[1:24:01] to our superintendent and I asked

[1:24:04] his subjective opinion on how

[1:24:07] things are going and again with

[1:24:09] no unforeseen issues that have popped up

[1:24:12] but we know it is early and inclement

[1:24:13] weather

[1:24:15] is coming and that is usually where

[1:24:16] his crew starts to

[1:24:19] see the

[1:24:20] unbudgeted and unplanned expenses

[1:24:22] pop up due to

[1:24:25] rain or any other sort of inclement

[1:24:28] weather. Also,

[1:24:30] the pool is something most expenses

[1:24:31] occurred or significant

[1:24:33] portion occurred over the summer.

[1:24:37] that is tracking the budget.

[1:24:39] we expect to be on target and then

[1:24:42] lastly I will mention the city manager

[1:24:43] contingency

[1:24:45] which I said we bolstered we have

[1:24:49] only spent 2500 of that contingency fund

[1:24:51] so everything is looking very good.

[1:24:55] on the

[1:24:58] revenue side, we are 10% of budget

[1:24:59] at

[1:25:01] this point. We

[1:25:04] are sales tax and measure x

[1:25:06] is tracking on target we budgeted

[1:25:07] $9.8 million for the

[1:25:10] whole fiscal year. So far we

[1:25:13] have received $2.1 million.

[1:25:14] mentioned earlier property tax will

[1:25:16] come later. One of the

[1:25:19] , one of the benefits

[1:25:20] that I have seen digging into the

[1:25:22] data as our permit

[1:25:25] and fees which we thought would

[1:25:28] be slowing or low is actually doing

[1:25:30] pretty well so we are ahead of the budget

[1:25:31] on

[1:25:34] permit fees

[1:25:36] and one of the things that jill told

[1:25:37] me could be the reason

[1:25:38] was we have had several significant

[1:25:40] tenant improvement

[1:25:42] projects come through, increased activity

[1:25:43] at

[1:25:44] the refineries with recent submission

[1:25:46] of the river house

[1:25:49] of the housing application which again

[1:25:52] is a pretty significant

[1:25:55] permit fee to be processed

[1:25:56] with 94 additional building permits

[1:25:57] received for the same timeframe than

[1:25:58] last year

[1:26:01] compared to last year.

[1:26:04] >> can I interrupt?

[1:26:07] you said activities at the

[1:26:10] refineries are we talking about because

[1:26:13] the refinery is not in

[1:26:15] the city so we don't get any permit

[1:26:16] fees or

[1:26:19] anything.

[1:26:20] >> a small portion

[1:26:21] of the refinery that does come to

[1:26:22] us with permits.

[1:26:23] >>

[1:26:25] is that what happened last year? We're

[1:26:26] talking

[1:26:28] about the other ones?

[1:26:29] >> this year.

[1:26:31] it would be.

[1:26:34] >> okay I know we will dig

[1:26:37] into the marina a

[1:26:39] little more robustly next. I want

[1:26:40] to note

[1:26:43] we had budgeted $560,000

[1:26:46] to be on loan from the general fund

[1:26:47] to the

[1:26:49] marina fund.

[1:26:52] so far we are at $126,000 or just

[1:26:55] over. That is lower than what

[1:26:57] we budgeted and the reason for that

[1:26:58] is because

[1:27:01] early on in the fiscal year

[1:27:03] f3 was fully staffed so they were

[1:27:04] not operating with

[1:27:07] the budget provided with the number

[1:27:10] of staff. I think it is 3 or 4 people

[1:27:11] in total

[1:27:13] so we do expect

[1:27:15] those expenses to go up. Revenue collected

[1:27:16] over there

[1:27:19] is $90,000,

[1:27:22] expenditures have been $117,000.

[1:27:25] total expenditures at 57% of

[1:27:28] the budget and it is primarily

[1:27:31] due to the labor cost savings as I

[1:27:32] mentioned.

[1:27:34] the net loss is 27,000 now so we

[1:27:37] will continue to track.

[1:27:39] it is early but if we can come in

[1:27:40] under budget on 560,000 we

[1:27:43] will be happy with that.

[1:27:46] and before turnover to joe

[1:27:49] a quick reminder we adopted the 5 year

[1:27:53] cip at the same time as

[1:27:56] the budget.

[1:27:57] one small amendment made to the cip

[1:27:59] when we adopted it where we

[1:28:00] shifted $50,000 from the downtown plaza

[1:28:05] to the centennial project.

[1:28:07] and then one item I want to mention

[1:28:10] coming up midyear we don't have to

[1:28:14] flush it out tonight, but since

[1:28:16] we do have a waterfront revitalization

[1:28:17] project

[1:28:19] underway which is exploring the amphitheater

[1:28:24] and obviously adding robust activity in

[1:28:26] the area including

[1:28:28] entertainment and retail we are recommending

[1:28:33] an amendment midyear regarding the

[1:28:35] waterfront stage so

[1:28:38] this is the

[1:28:39] budget we have been partnering with

[1:28:41] kiwanis on.

[1:28:43] and a to have a personal conversation

[1:28:44] about this

[1:28:46] it is not make logical sense to build

[1:28:47] a waterfront stage

[1:28:49] when we have a whole project being built

[1:28:53] so what we have

[1:28:55] committed to in the spirit of them

[1:28:57] wanting to partner with us on a project

[1:28:59] will go back

[1:29:02] to the drawing board with them

[1:29:04] in a future discussion to see what

[1:29:05] we can collaborate

[1:29:08] on so I will turn it over

[1:29:11] to joe.

[1:29:14] >> yes. Good evening.

[1:29:17] a quick update

[1:29:18] on some of these completed projects.

[1:29:23] when we started listing them it

[1:29:26] became quite a list and covered all phases

[1:29:28] , some highlights were definitely

[1:29:32] the fishing pier long

[1:29:34] awaited with the ribbon-cutting a

[1:29:35] few

[1:29:37] weeks ago. It had been packed almost

[1:29:40] every day from what I have heard.

[1:29:43] the other one I wanted to highlight

[1:29:44] was

[1:29:47] the hydrant maintenance, we serviced

[1:29:50] nearly 1000 fire hydrants

[1:29:53] to confirm that they were

[1:29:56] flowing and functional.

[1:29:59] we did find I believe 3

[1:30:02] that were out of service

[1:30:04] for a couple of reasons typically

[1:30:08] they had been repaired and the valve

[1:30:11] had been reopened.

[1:30:17] if you have been anywhere

[1:30:19] downtown we have completed a huge

[1:30:20] amount of paving,

[1:30:23] alhambra avenue paging.

[1:30:26] we are wrapping up the

[1:30:29] zone 3, the downtown paving

[1:30:32] with a lot of downtown the final

[1:30:35] pieces remaining is striping

[1:30:38] probably about 4 days left

[1:30:41] of striping.

[1:30:44] the zone 3 is

[1:30:47] , or zone 4

[1:30:50] is in design and zone 2

[1:30:53] was completed last summer.

[1:30:56] sidewalk projects , you know we did

[1:30:59] the accessibility curb ramps,

[1:31:01] updated the reimbursement program.

[1:31:05] shaving program which we completed

[1:31:07] last year over 900 locations shaped

[1:31:11] and we are about to go out with another project

[1:31:13] and there will be more significant

[1:31:14] this spring.

[1:31:17] sidewalks with

[1:31:20] the gap closure.

[1:31:23] we touched on facilities

[1:31:25] city hall improvements, the roof is completed.

[1:31:32] parks , last year both

[1:31:35] sports courts and the

[1:31:37] grand opening of pine meadows park

[1:31:44] with water, water projects had

[1:31:45] extensive water main replacement administered

[1:31:47] to the

[1:31:50] fire hydrants. We

[1:31:51] are about to start construction on

[1:31:53] the next water main project and we

[1:31:54] are wrapping

[1:31:56] up a pump station project

[1:31:59] and then if you have been in

[1:32:01] the downtown the last couple days

[1:32:02] we have finally started

[1:32:05] the long awaited infill

[1:32:08] on parking lot 4. Started

[1:32:11] on monday, depending on the

[1:32:14] weather, they might possibly be completed

[1:32:17] before thanksgiving.

[1:32:20] we

[1:32:23] are close to wrapping up the design phase

[1:32:26] on the parking meter and destination

[1:32:29] sign program

[1:32:34] and we are ready to place the order

[1:32:35] for the downtown bike racks as

[1:32:38] well. So it is moving forward

[1:32:41] I think those were the

[1:32:44] some of the main highlights.

[1:32:47] one of the ones

[1:32:49] we wanted to point out was phase 1

[1:32:50] street trees

[1:32:53] the 150 trees. Unless

[1:32:56] we get weeks of weather

[1:32:59] our contractor

[1:33:01] assures us he can have those completed

[1:33:02] by the end of

[1:33:05] the year.

[1:33:06] >> great.

[1:33:14] >> I know

[1:33:16] we have bounced back and forth but

[1:33:17] I believe it

[1:33:20] was 30 ,

[1:33:23] 32, yes.

[1:33:26] >>

[1:33:28] I did not hear you say amtrak elevator,

[1:33:29] but I can see it.

[1:33:30] >>

[1:33:32] I was about to say that is under design

[1:33:33] right

[1:33:35] now and so we have

[1:33:38] a contractor, he has looked at it.

[1:33:41] he has a plan for that

[1:33:43] and we are coordinating security improvements.

[1:33:44] with

[1:33:47] the capital corridor amtrak improvements.

[1:33:50] they have completed

[1:33:53] their bid package and their scheduled

[1:33:56] to go to coverage by next spring.

[1:34:00] >> so, the construction

[1:34:03] to clarify , so the

[1:34:04] amtrak elevator is on us, security

[1:34:06] is on

[1:34:09] them and when

[1:34:10] security improvements are made we

[1:34:12] can move forward.

[1:34:15] >> correct. We are going to do

[1:34:17] some additional security and hardening improvements

[1:34:21] that would be on the city

[1:34:24] to secure some of the , the

[1:34:27] heating and

[1:34:28] ventilation equipment on the platform

[1:34:30] and then some

[1:34:33] of the ,

[1:34:35] securing those so they are not hiding

[1:34:36] in

[1:34:39] hiding spots and then

[1:34:42] lastly one

[1:34:45] of our strategic projects and

[1:34:47] for the 150th our park master plan

[1:34:51] not necessarily cip per se

[1:34:54] but it is one of the key projects and

[1:34:56] you know we are probably one month

[1:35:00] into that . I

[1:35:01] think we had our 4th project team

[1:35:03] meeting

[1:35:06] last week , lauren gave a

[1:35:08] pretty complete update on that last week

[1:35:11] but we will be kicking off a robust

[1:35:12] public

[1:35:14] engagement process right after the

[1:35:18] 1st of the year.

[1:35:22] >> so just to conclude, next steps 2026

[1:35:24] back to

[1:35:27] budget season for us. January,

[1:35:29] we will be scheduling a budget and

[1:35:32] finance subcommittee meeting. We will

[1:35:33] be

[1:35:36] bringing the

[1:35:37] midyear budget to the finance subcommittee

[1:35:39] before going to city council.

[1:35:41] we will be kicking off fiscal year

[1:35:42] 26-27 budget

[1:35:45] development process that

[1:35:46] happens largely at the staff level

[1:35:48] initially before

[1:35:50] we bring conversations to the council.

[1:35:51] in february we will

[1:35:54] bring midyear budget

[1:35:56] and then we will bring the cip amendment

[1:35:57] we spoke about.

[1:35:59] in march we will be a little earlier

[1:36:00] but at least by march bringing the

[1:36:03] recreation fee update, so

[1:36:05] debbie hernandez is working now on

[1:36:06] that

[1:36:08] and they are studying all of the various

[1:36:09] user fees

[1:36:12] so they will bring

[1:36:14] recommendation to you on that. April is

[1:36:15] when we typically

[1:36:18] bring the broad city administrative fees

[1:36:21] that we bring annually.

[1:36:24] in april we will have

[1:36:26] a study session, we will update the

[1:36:27] long-range forecast

[1:36:32] and we will want to talk with council

[1:36:33] on fiscal sustainability measures.

[1:36:34] we

[1:36:36] have spoke , we focus a lot on expenditures

[1:36:39] over the last few years pretty much

[1:36:40] we

[1:36:41] have been taking a chopping block

[1:36:45] to a lot of city services and we have

[1:36:47] cut millions out of the budget, but

[1:36:50] we still have no revenue coming in

[1:36:51] so we

[1:36:53] really have to sit down and figure

[1:36:57] that problem out. So june and I were

[1:36:58] talking

[1:36:59] about this today putting a study session together

[1:37:02] to look at all the options on the

[1:37:03] table and get a

[1:37:05] sense from the council where you want

[1:37:06] us to further pursue.

[1:37:11] look forward to that, in may we will

[1:37:12] have the fiscal

[1:37:14] year 26-27 budget workshop and june

[1:37:15] is the adoption. That

[1:37:18] concludes our presentation.

[1:37:19] >>

[1:37:21] thank you so much for the presentation.

[1:37:23] the action tonight was to provide

[1:37:24] input and hold

[1:37:27] discussion. Any specific item that

[1:37:29] you would like guidance on or any

[1:37:30] feedback on a

[1:37:33] particular portion?

[1:37:34] >>

[1:37:36] so, I think this is more

[1:37:39] of a informational update,

[1:37:42] if you have questions we are happy to

[1:37:44] take them but there is no specific

[1:37:45] area. We are tracking well

[1:37:48] to budget now with no concerns.

[1:37:49] >>

[1:37:51] the only question I have was in

[1:37:54] the staff report talking about park

[1:37:55] maintenance because

[1:37:56] I remember the discussion we have lumped

[1:38:00] the park maintenance budget reduction

[1:38:01] under the city

[1:38:03] manager contingency fund. It read

[1:38:04] in

[1:38:05] the staff report we have reduced park

[1:38:06] maintenance

[1:38:09] so can you clarify if that

[1:38:12] reduction is people related

[1:38:15] and action related or

[1:38:18] things?

[1:38:19] >> things,

[1:38:21] we assumed this

[1:38:23] budget assumes all positions filled

[1:38:24] whether it is

[1:38:27] in any department. So it is more

[1:38:30] you know equipment or

[1:38:35] a fence falls over and we need to

[1:38:36] rebuild the fence things

[1:38:39] like that, arborists, tree related things

[1:38:41] and we are pretty, we feel pretty

[1:38:42] good right now that we

[1:38:45] have enough budget to deal with those issues.

[1:38:49] >> great, thank you. >>

[1:38:52] yeah, just

[1:38:54] more of a comment, I really appreciate staff's

[1:38:58] fiscal responsibility.

[1:39:00] you all are doing everything that

[1:39:01] you

[1:39:04] can, given our

[1:39:07] tight budget. This is just more

[1:39:10] of a comment.

[1:39:11] we need to continue to be mindful

[1:39:13] of impacts

[1:39:16] that can trickle down

[1:39:19] , the federal level .

[1:39:22] I know today it

[1:39:24] was just announced and california

[1:39:25] is

[1:39:26] forecasting instead of a $13 billion

[1:39:28] budget deficit

[1:39:31] for next fiscal year, an

[1:39:34] $18 billion budget

[1:39:36] deficit and we know when there is a

[1:39:37] deficit,

[1:39:40] that means more cuts. On

[1:39:42] state programs so we just need to

[1:39:43] be

[1:39:46] mindful because it always has a

[1:39:48] trickle-down approach. So, there are

[1:39:52] a lot of moving parts that are somewhat

[1:39:55] out of our control

[1:39:57] at the state and federal level so

[1:39:58] we need to

[1:40:01] be vigilant and stay close

[1:40:03] to see how some of these things happening

[1:40:04] above our

[1:40:05] head are going to impact us locally.

[1:40:07] great job

[1:40:10] .

[1:40:16] >> I have a question for joe.

[1:40:19] you mentioned

[1:40:22] the hydrant project we have.

[1:40:24] so come early on I think people talked

[1:40:25] about

[1:40:28] the hydrant project

[1:40:29] checking the hydrants could cause

[1:40:31] pressure changes and water leaks.

[1:40:33] have we experienced anything like

[1:40:34] that with

[1:40:36] hydrant checks we have been doing

[1:40:39] as part of the project?

[1:40:40] >> I think

[1:40:41] there is

[1:40:42] a couple complaints of discolored water

[1:40:46] , but it was pretty limited. Actually

[1:40:49] it went pretty smoothly.

[1:40:52] all the way around.

[1:40:53] >>

[1:40:55] okay great to hear. 1

[1:40:58] other question. This is not

[1:41:01] necessarily related, it is related

[1:41:03] to paving. I've got comments about paving

[1:41:06] I don't think it was paving on ramps

[1:41:07] to

[1:41:10] highway 4 with that be caltrans?

[1:41:12] >> that is a caltrans project. Long

[1:41:16] and ongoing. Disruptive.

[1:41:19] >> okay I did not

[1:41:22] think it was us, but

[1:41:23] the striping delay has caused people

[1:41:25] a lot of confusion on and off the

[1:41:27] highway. The ramps are not striped

[1:41:30] and it is difficult to know how to

[1:41:31] navigate that

[1:41:34] especially at night and it is dangerous

[1:41:35] and

[1:41:37] I have had some residents talk

[1:41:40] about that thinking the city is responsible.

[1:41:43] I don't know

[1:41:44] if the ramps have been striped already.

[1:41:46] I did experience it too

[1:41:49] so if there is any

[1:41:51] way to speak with them about maybe

[1:41:52] more timely

[1:41:55] striping because it

[1:41:56] is a danger to the residence driving

[1:41:58] in the evening.

[1:41:59] >> we

[1:42:01] can relay those concerns.

[1:42:03] some of the off ramp lower portions

[1:42:04] have the final

[1:42:07] paving have not been striped

[1:42:09] , but as of last week they were put

[1:42:10] in the final layer

[1:42:13] of asphalt on the outside

[1:42:15] lanes and striping would be subsequent

[1:42:16] to that

[1:42:19] in the clear weather.

[1:42:22] >> thank you, if you can relay

[1:42:24] comments to them to try to do this

[1:42:28] more quickly it could cause accidents.

[1:42:31] it may have already caused

[1:42:33] an accident I'm not sure but people

[1:42:34] have been frightened to drive

[1:42:37] on and off the highway in the evening

[1:42:38] >>

[1:42:40] speaking of striping there is a handful

[1:42:43] of downtown paving areas not striped

[1:42:46] and I reached out to you and you

[1:42:49] said in the next couple of weeks

[1:42:52] pending the rain?

[1:42:53] >> we think there is

[1:42:55] 3 or 4 days left of striping.

[1:42:58] in the clear weather.

[1:43:01] >> great, better than I

[1:43:04] was thinking.

[1:43:05] >> yeah,

[1:43:07] I echo

[1:43:10] those comments and

[1:43:12] I will speak a little bit more about

[1:43:13] that at the end of

[1:43:16] tonight's meeting. To piggyback

[1:43:19] off of what greg said, thank you

[1:43:22] this is very helpful. I think

[1:43:25] it underscores the work that is

[1:43:26] already been undertaken with work

[1:43:28] that is before us.

[1:43:31] appreciate the opportunity to

[1:43:34] provide additional input at the

[1:43:37] appropriate time but everything

[1:43:40] greg says , spot on.

[1:43:42] certain things are within our purview, but

[1:43:46] there's a lot of things not within

[1:43:47] our purview,

[1:43:49] independent factors. Just

[1:43:51] like everybody has household budgets

[1:43:52] there are things you

[1:43:54] can manage and some things you are

[1:43:55] not able to manage and the city is

[1:43:58] no different. So we have got to focus

[1:44:01] on what we can manage. Also

[1:44:04] be able to prepare for some of the

[1:44:05] things that

[1:44:07] might be on the horizon.

[1:44:10] federal economic indicators give

[1:44:13] me a lot of pause and

[1:44:16] then to

[1:44:19] greg's point in terms of the headwinds

[1:44:20] that the

[1:44:21] state is continuing to face as well that

[1:44:22] is all going to have

[1:44:25] impacts on municipalities such as ours

[1:44:28] . To bring it more local

[1:44:31] it really underscores the pressing

[1:44:34] need for us to be able to identify

[1:44:35] the revenue.

[1:44:38] so from my standpoint

[1:44:41] I think oftentimes we

[1:44:43] have seen other jurisdictions there

[1:44:44] has been a

[1:44:46] quick pivot to let's just ask residents

[1:44:52] to pony up more. They go through it

[1:44:53] 2 years later and

[1:44:54] say pony up some more and it is a

[1:44:56] never ending cycle and am

[1:44:57] grateful that has not been a practice

[1:44:59] of this city at

[1:45:01] least historically and of the recent council

[1:45:05] and debbie is the

[1:45:07] veteran here. And I really appreciate

[1:45:08] the

[1:45:11] fact that you know we have had a

[1:45:14] fiscally conservative approach

[1:45:17] and are trying to continue to do that,

[1:45:18] but I think it really underscores

[1:45:20] the importance of the discussion

[1:45:22] we are having and we will continue

[1:45:23] to have certainly

[1:45:25] with the community in terms of where

[1:45:26] opportunities

[1:45:28] are to help bring us that revenue.

[1:45:32] so, those are just my thoughts.

[1:45:35] thank you very much.

[1:45:38] >>

[1:45:41] thank you for the update I think

[1:45:44] it is wonderful we have not had

[1:45:46] any big things happen to us. So far.

[1:45:50] winter is coming, so

[1:45:53] I appreciate your hard work.

[1:45:56] >>

[1:45:58] all right I'm going to open up to

[1:45:59] public

[1:46:00] comment. Anyone in the council chambers

[1:46:02] want to provide?

[1:46:05] go ahead, kevin.

[1:46:13] >> kevin, you know we are on the cip

[1:46:16] budget not the marine item, you know

[1:46:17] we

[1:46:20] are on cip not the marina?

[1:46:25] I will call on you when we get to

[1:46:26] the item.

[1:46:29] so sorry. Anyone else on

[1:46:32] the cip and the

[1:46:37] budget update item? He has got flyers.

[1:46:41] this is important. Anyone

[1:46:42] in the virtual audience want to provide

[1:46:44] comment on the cip project list?

[1:46:47] >> please use the race

[1:46:50] hand feature.

[1:46:53] >> I have no

[1:46:55] hands.

[1:46:56] >> thank you for the update,

[1:46:57] since

[1:46:59] there is nothing to vote on

[1:47:02] it was a good conversation thank you.

[1:47:03] moving

[1:47:04] on public hearing item 18. Conduct

[1:47:05] public hearing

[1:47:07] and adopt resolution amending the

[1:47:08] marina fee schedule

[1:47:11] related to mooring utility and

[1:47:13] fees. Who will be presenting tonight?

[1:47:17] jill? Go ahead.

[1:47:18] >>

[1:47:20] put the presentation on.

[1:47:38] great.

[1:47:41] are you walking out?

[1:47:44] okay.

[1:47:49] thank you mayor and council members.

[1:47:50] tonight we are here

[1:47:53] to discuss the

[1:47:54] marina fee schedule and recommendation

[1:47:56] to adopt resolution amending

[1:47:58] the marina fee schedule related to

[1:47:59] mooring

[1:48:02] utilities and liver board fees.

[1:48:05] a brief update how this

[1:48:08] particular item aligns with strategic plan

[1:48:11] and

[1:48:13] that is under the goal of fiscal sustainability

[1:48:14] promoting financial health

[1:48:16] through long-term planning responsible

[1:48:17] budgeting,

[1:48:19] cost recovery which is what we are

[1:48:20] here tonight

[1:48:23] and increased

[1:48:25] awareness. To provide a little background,

[1:48:26] in october awareness. To provide a

[1:48:27] little background, in

[1:48:28] october 2024, the staff brought forward

[1:48:31] the similar item to have a discussion

[1:48:32] about increasing the fees

[1:48:34] after our marina operator had left

[1:48:38] and we were in the process of taking over

[1:48:39] the

[1:48:40] marina. It was identified the fees

[1:48:41] were not

[1:48:44] demonstrated full cost recovery

[1:48:46] or getting close to cost recovery

[1:48:50] at the time council

[1:48:52] provided direction so after hearing

[1:48:53] from the community

[1:48:56] they wanted to wait

[1:48:57] until improvements had been made to

[1:48:59] the marina as well as

[1:49:01] having staff research a little bit

[1:49:02] further about a

[1:49:05] water leak as to why we're using so

[1:49:08] much water at the time.

[1:49:10] since then the water leak has been

[1:49:11] resolved, this was

[1:49:14] a main underneath the ramp

[1:49:16] that has been corrected and fixed.

[1:49:17] as

[1:49:20] well as the city, in january the city,

[1:49:21] in january

[1:49:23] 2025 brought on f3, to manage

[1:49:26] the marina. Since they have arrived

[1:49:27] they

[1:49:29] have done incredible amount of improvements

[1:49:32] and enhancements.

[1:49:34] everything related to safety lighting

[1:49:35] security, painting, they

[1:49:37] have done a lot of repairs to docs,

[1:49:38] building ramps

[1:49:40] to get infrastructure out of the water

[1:49:41] so boaters

[1:49:44] can get to the vessels during the

[1:49:45] day

[1:49:47] related to the tides moving up and

[1:49:48] down as well

[1:49:49] as overall operational managements

[1:49:53] and maintenance and so forth.

[1:49:56] october of this year

[1:49:58] we brought this item to the marina

[1:49:59] and waterfront

[1:50:02] subcommittee and had a hearty discussion

[1:50:05] which we will talk about. Additionally

[1:50:08] following off the previous presentation

[1:50:11] , the marina has long-standing

[1:50:16] deficits because we talked about the

[1:50:17] $560,000 loan that was made and

[1:50:20] it is projected we may

[1:50:23] be around 650

[1:50:26] in loans moving forward creating a compromise

[1:50:29] on the city's future reserves.

[1:50:32] at this time I will turn

[1:50:34] it over to talk a little bit more

[1:50:35] about the

[1:50:38] financial aspect.

[1:50:39] >> sure,

[1:50:41] so what is

[1:50:43] up on the screen is the long-range

[1:50:44] forecast done

[1:50:47] in may or june of the last year and

[1:50:48] this

[1:50:50] scenario assumes an ongoing

[1:50:52] subsidy from the general fund, to

[1:50:53] the marina.

[1:50:56] on an ongoing basis, something

[1:50:59] we have decided to do

[1:51:01] as a council and city organization

[1:51:04] is start planning for the next 5 to

[1:51:05] 10 years making sure

[1:51:07] we are being responsible today and understanding

[1:51:10] what the long-term liabilities are

[1:51:15] on the city's general funds

[1:51:16] so this is what the picture depicts

[1:51:18] for your. As mentioned, the

[1:51:20] marina enterprise fund has had a long-standing

[1:51:23] structural deficit. We brought on

[1:51:25] f3, they have done a fabulous job

[1:51:27] from everything we have heard

[1:51:30] and seen, but now we

[1:51:31] are paying for that, things are getting

[1:51:33] fixed. We have more employees at

[1:51:36] the marina. Like

[1:51:37] I said earlier we are coming under

[1:51:39] budget right now

[1:51:41] but it is something we assume is going

[1:51:42] to continue

[1:51:44] to be of high cost on the city. Since

[1:51:45] fiscal

[1:51:48] year 21 -22 the general fund

[1:51:50] , there has been $2 million general

[1:51:51] fund

[1:51:53] reserves spent toward the marina 's

[1:51:54] we

[1:51:55] are trying to be careful. We want

[1:51:57] to meet

[1:51:59] the reserve target, we are nervous

[1:52:00] about the next

[1:52:03] few years so in order to sort of maintain

[1:52:05] status quo with the subsidy to the marina,

[1:52:09] which includes the

[1:52:11] loan to the state, the utility cost and

[1:52:14] f3 operation costs we are looking at

[1:52:18] needing $1.2 million

[1:52:20] in a new ongoing budget with budget cuts

[1:52:24] over the next few years

[1:52:26] phased in over the next few years.

[1:52:27] always

[1:52:29] trying to keep your eyes on that and

[1:52:30] again it

[1:52:33] comes down to it is cutting into our

[1:52:36] core services as a city

[1:52:39] and that is why it is critical,

[1:52:40] jill is bringing forward a proposal

[1:52:42] tonight to modestly

[1:52:45] fill the gap a little bit.

[1:52:51] >>

[1:52:52] all right, again with the fee schedule

[1:52:54] the goal is to reduce dependency on

[1:52:56] the general fund, in research we have discovered

[1:52:57] the last

[1:53:00] fee increase was in 2014

[1:53:02] and as you know the cost of operations

[1:53:04] have dramatically increased since

[1:53:06] that time. As well as with

[1:53:09] f3 coming on and

[1:53:10] permits being made everything from

[1:53:11] lumber and labor has all increased.

[1:53:15] when looking at the methodology

[1:53:17] of what's the best way of doing this

[1:53:18] we looked to

[1:53:19] our partners in some of the other

[1:53:21] regional markets with

[1:53:24] comparisons and

[1:53:26] a lot of the increases are based on

[1:53:27] consumer price

[1:53:29] index and when we are talking about tonight

[1:53:32] is the consumer price index for inflation

[1:53:33] for the bay area region

[1:53:36] as well

[1:53:39] as we received information

[1:53:40] from the bureau of labor statistics

[1:53:42] and pg&e data with

[1:53:45] utility rates and we did a market

[1:53:46] analysis

[1:53:48] with some of the similar

[1:53:51] marinas

[1:53:53] in the area comparable to us and that

[1:53:54] would be monisha, vallejo, pittsburgh

[1:53:55] and

[1:53:56] antioch. That also to touch upon it

[1:54:00] , several of those also have

[1:54:03] wooden docs similar to ours so we

[1:54:06] were only pulling those forward

[1:54:08] not necessarily the nice concrete or

[1:54:11] covered structures. Some of the marinas

[1:54:12] have expensive rates

[1:54:14] as well. Even with the comparison

[1:54:15] you

[1:54:18] will see in the attachment

[1:54:20] martinez has the lowest rates and

[1:54:21] one of the things

[1:54:23] of the follow-up the subcommittee

[1:54:24] wanted to do was to

[1:54:26] find out when jurisdictions had their

[1:54:27] last increases so

[1:54:30] we went back and they did increase

[1:54:33] in 2025,

[1:54:35] vallejo 2023, pittsburgh 2025 and antioch

[1:54:39] in 2023. To give you an idea

[1:54:41] where they are with the rates that are

[1:54:42] relatively recent

[1:54:45] . So, tonight

[1:54:48] as part of the fee schedule in

[1:54:51] exhibit a there's

[1:54:53] a lot of fees associated with the

[1:54:54] marina, tonight we

[1:54:56] are asking for increases for the 3 fees

[1:54:57] the

[1:54:59] morning fee, the vessel and the monthly rate

[1:55:03] the utility fee which is electricity

[1:55:06] and gas provided by the marina

[1:55:09] it does not include water because

[1:55:11] we never had a water rate listed and

[1:55:12] then the

[1:55:15] fee which is the surcharge for the boaters

[1:55:18] permitted to remain on their vessels

[1:55:19] longer than

[1:55:20] 72 hours with 72 hour restriction.

[1:55:21] we will start

[1:55:24] with the mooring fees again proposed

[1:55:27] based on cpi index. Local

[1:55:30] marina market and best practice of

[1:55:31] what other

[1:55:33] marinas are doing and

[1:55:34] our recommendation is to align the

[1:55:36] fee with cumulative

[1:55:39] cpi from 2014 to 2025

[1:55:42] which is 40.69%.

[1:55:45] very straightforward methodology and improves

[1:55:46] the

[1:55:48] overall enterprise ,

[1:55:50] the marina enterprise financial position.

[1:55:51] competitive with other marinas

[1:55:54] but far below the average and we're still

[1:55:57] getting toward the lower end.

[1:56:00] implementation for the fee the

[1:56:02] recommendation that was to the subcommittee

[1:56:03] and I will go back when I

[1:56:06] get to the end I will tell you what

[1:56:09] the recommendation was. We provided

[1:56:10] 2 options do

[1:56:12] we implement all at once or look at

[1:56:15] the phase in model over 2 years which

[1:56:17] is what we do with some of the other

[1:56:18] fees especially administrative

[1:56:21] fees restart was 75%

[1:56:24] 1st year and then 25% in the 2nd

[1:56:27] year on them.

[1:56:30] so, this particular attachment is

[1:56:32] a little different from the one in

[1:56:33] the staff report

[1:56:36] this is what we presented showing

[1:56:38] you an idea of what it would look like if

[1:56:40] we did 75/25.

[1:56:43] one of the things I

[1:56:44] want to point out is the ones that

[1:56:46] are color-coded, those

[1:56:49] are actually the vessels at the

[1:56:50] marina currently. While we have rates

[1:56:52] going from 20 foot

[1:56:55] all the way to 70

[1:56:58] foot slips, because of the

[1:56:59] marina being downsized, losing docs

[1:57:01] and so forth

[1:57:03] the primary vessel slips are 30, 35 and

[1:57:07] 45 with just one , 60 being

[1:57:10] occupied. That gives you an idea

[1:57:11] of where the main increase will affect those

[1:57:13] that

[1:57:15] have boats at the marina. If you look

[1:57:20] or actually the other thing I want

[1:57:22] to point out

[1:57:23] is the dry storage comparison. A lot

[1:57:25] of times

[1:57:27] it is more of a luxury to have your

[1:57:28] boat in the marina

[1:57:31] to get on and go so

[1:57:32] if you look at the dry storage comparison

[1:57:34] which is more

[1:57:36] of a process to get your boat to the

[1:57:37] water that is averaging

[1:57:39] from 200 to 300 for the uncovered storage.

[1:57:43] and

[1:57:44] then again as I mentioned, the antioch,

[1:57:46] pittsburgh and

[1:57:49] vallejo rates are covered

[1:57:52] because they do include , you know

[1:57:55] --

[1:58:30] the increase for the

[1:58:33] utility fee they felt made

[1:58:34] sense, understanding the need for

[1:58:36] the increase.

[1:58:39] I mean they understood there was a

[1:58:40] need

[1:58:41] and why. They did acknowledge the

[1:58:42] acknowledgment of

[1:58:44] improvements under

[1:58:46] f3 leadership and it was nice to hear the

[1:58:47] praise given to them

[1:58:48] by the voters that were out there.

[1:58:50] I did forget to

[1:58:53] mention jamie is on the line, he is sick

[1:58:55] he is here but with us online should

[1:58:57] we have questions that

[1:59:00] are asked.

[1:59:02] and then some of the comments were

[1:59:03] about some additional improvements

[1:59:05] they would like to see, comments about the

[1:59:06] pump out being

[1:59:09] replaced, the bathrooms, isolated

[1:59:10] incident at the bathrooms having issues

[1:59:12] with that corrected

[1:59:15] and locks have been updated as

[1:59:17] well as the water and

[1:59:19] electricity upgrades like there are

[1:59:20] things they will

[1:59:23] upgrade their. The pump out had a recent

[1:59:27] inspection of compliance and I

[1:59:28] don't recall the agency that is required

[1:59:30] it might be the health

[1:59:33] department and it did pass just fine.

[1:59:35] but we are looking at options that

[1:59:36] if we have the

[1:59:39] ability to improve that we

[1:59:41] will look at that as well in the future.

[1:59:45] again, complements

[1:59:47] about f3 and then you know there was understanding

[1:59:49] of additional funding to help close

[1:59:50] the gap a little bit.

[1:59:53] so, we went

[1:59:56] through forward subcommittee.

[1:59:58] the recommendation that they came

[2:00:01] back with

[2:00:02] --they felt like 40% was a big bite

[2:00:04] right off the bat and wanted to pass

[2:00:05] on this cost with the understanding

[2:00:06] of

[2:00:07] knowing that we had to look towards

[2:00:08] cost recovery and having to close

[2:00:09] the

[2:00:10] gap anyway we can. So they estimate

[2:00:11] --the recommendation that was passed

[2:00:12] forward to

[2:00:13] the council, they created option three,

[2:00:14] which is to look at

[2:00:20] 2026 of

[2:00:23] rolling in half of that increase

[2:00:25] in 2026 and half of that increase

[2:00:26] in 2027. For the utility fees, they

[2:00:27] agreed that doubling

[2:00:28] the cost made sense and adding the

[2:00:29] five dollars a month and

[2:00:31] they asked for the five dollars a

[2:00:32] month to be rolled into the fee

[2:00:34] itself. [ inaudible ] which is the

[2:00:35] standard practice that are some of

[2:00:36] the

[2:00:39] other marinas are also doing. As

[2:00:40] for the liveaboard fee, increasing

[2:00:42] that fee

[2:00:46] by $75 to 275. The implementation

[2:00:47] for the utility fee and liveaboard

[2:00:48] fee

[2:00:50] was recommended january 1st and then

[2:00:54] just the facts he would have a

[2:00:55] timeframe over two years. If you look

[2:00:57] at number one, it

[2:01:00] gives you an

[2:01:01] idea that by 2027, we should see an

[2:01:03] increase

[2:01:09] of 129,000.

[2:01:15] while that is a great increase

[2:01:16] based on what we talked about it doesn't necessarily

[2:01:18] get closer to that larger

[2:01:19] gap so we'll have to look at other

[2:01:21] things which we can do to either

[2:01:22] increase revenue or look at how our

[2:01:23] services are being offered. On that.

[2:01:24] so,

[2:01:25] with that, staff is available for

[2:01:27] any questions. And

[2:01:29] the council.

[2:01:30] >> thank you very much.

[2:01:31] does

[2:01:32] anyone want to start us off, and if

[2:01:33] not, can I have the folks that

[2:01:34] are in the marina subcommittee maybe

[2:01:36] just provide their

[2:01:39] input on the conversation I

[2:01:42] was had?

[2:01:48] >> yeah.

[2:01:51] I really appreciate your report

[2:01:52] and all the hard work and I appreciate

[2:01:53] all the stakeholders that came down

[2:01:54] to the

[2:01:55] subcommittee meeting and had their

[2:01:57] input. I think --can you tell me a

[2:01:58] little

[2:02:00] bit more about the bathrooms in

[2:02:05] the keys. [ inaudible -low volume

[2:02:06] ]

[2:02:07] >>

[2:02:08] there was an incident in which there

[2:02:09] was a key being used by

[2:02:10] a prior tenant, and they were not

[2:02:12] happy with the marina, so there was

[2:02:13] some damage that was done internally

[2:02:15] to the bathrooms and so it we ended

[2:02:18] up

[2:02:20] doing is f3 changed all the locks

[2:02:21] to have box as an

[2:02:24] interim solution until we do

[2:02:26] more research on whether it makes

[2:02:27] sense to re-key

[2:02:30] everything.

[2:02:31] >> [ inaudible ]

[2:02:35] >> it was about 6000 just to do regular

[2:02:36] heart keys and

[2:02:39] it was somewhere in the 20+ range

[2:02:41] if we were going to do key fobs. And

[2:02:42] given our track of moving

[2:02:48] forward with

[2:02:49] reyna revitalization discussions,

[2:02:51] we wanted to be mindful not to spend

[2:02:52] that kind of funding.

[2:02:53] >> and I really

[2:02:54] appreciate you putting up option three.

[2:02:55] in

[2:03:00] our conversation.

[2:03:02] >> given the situation with the bathrooms,

[2:03:03] has there been any additional

[2:03:05] incidents or are the keys working

[2:03:06] well? Do the residents feel

[2:03:09] like they

[2:03:12] have privacy

[2:03:30] --I'm just curious.

[2:03:32] >> it is a keypad box so it's not keys. They

[2:03:33] have a code that only

[2:03:34] the residents have. I've not heard

[2:03:35] of any incidents since that time.

[2:03:36] >> okay. That

[2:03:37] was my concern was, you know, we have

[2:03:39] a solution but has it actually solved

[2:03:40] the problem and made people feel safer

[2:03:41] when using the bathroom, especially

[2:03:42] after hours, and

[2:03:43] again, thank you for presenting the

[2:03:45] 50-50 rollout, as opposed to the 7525

[2:03:46] because

[2:03:47] jay and I both felt that was a little

[2:03:48] bit easier to transition these increases

[2:03:49] more gradually over the next two years.

[2:03:51] so.

[2:03:52] >> I think you spelled out

[2:03:54] all of

[2:03:57] the changes. That one slide

[2:03:59] --I think one or two back --if you

[2:04:00] want to push

[2:04:03] that back. Just one more

[2:04:06] forward. Yes. So

[2:04:09] I think that

[2:04:12] side represents some of

[2:04:13] the comments that we had, jay, and

[2:04:15] I think that kind of sums up

[2:04:20] our recommendations. So, that's all we

[2:04:21] have

[2:04:27] this year.

[2:04:32] >> and I stepped out at the very beginning.

[2:04:33] when I came in, I

[2:04:35] heard you were reporting out on the

[2:04:36] water fix, so thank you very much

[2:04:37] for that information. That was something

[2:04:39] and it was important for all of us.

[2:04:40] I

[2:04:41] think we were all here when this conversation

[2:04:42] happened last time. There was concern

[2:04:44] about passing on utility costs for

[2:04:45] water. When we had not yet resolved

[2:04:48] the

[2:04:51] water main

[2:05:00] leakage, so

[2:05:01] thank you for reporting out on that.

[2:05:03] I did ask earlier today about the

[2:05:04] cost difference,

[2:05:05] which was sort of the trigger for

[2:05:06] us realizing there was a leak. Did

[2:05:08] you have a chance to report out on

[2:05:09] that?

[2:05:10] >> I did not have a

[2:05:11] chance.

[2:05:12] >> would you mind? >> previously,

[2:05:13] we were paying a little over $16,000

[2:05:18] per month. Every other month

[2:05:20] now is down to about $850.

[2:05:21] >> that's

[2:05:22] great. That is --that is much

[2:05:23] more realistic. Just to clarify, the

[2:05:24] five dollars for

[2:05:29] the water is based on $850 a month.

[2:05:30] not the 16,000.

[2:05:31] >> yeah.

[2:05:32] and it still far below anything we

[2:05:33] would recover.

[2:05:34] >> I want to make

[2:05:36] a correction. $850 just

[2:05:39] for the

[2:05:42] meter --the leak. There's other

[2:05:43] meters out there.

[2:05:44] >> thank you. >>

[2:05:45] if you look

[2:05:51] at the

[2:06:00] --did we fix that in 2024? I think

[2:06:02] we did that or talked about the water

[2:06:03] at 82. We were over --we were

[2:06:05] up in the 140,000 --116,000 --something

[2:06:06] like that range. There's multiple

[2:06:07] water meters.

[2:06:08] great. Thank you. And just making

[2:06:09] sure. Those were my two questions

[2:06:10] then. Great.

[2:06:15] thank you. Any other comments? I know

[2:06:17] we have several folks hear from the

[2:06:18] public, and kevin has flyers so how

[2:06:20] about we start with kevin for public

[2:06:21] comment and anyone else who

[2:06:24] has comments can raise their

[2:06:26] hand.

[2:06:27] >> I just had a quick question

[2:06:28] as a point of clarification. In the

[2:06:30] staff report, it

[2:06:33] plays out

[2:06:52] --lays

[2:06:53] out --there's two options and then

[2:06:55] there was a third option so what

[2:06:56] am I missing?

[2:06:57] >> with the staff report,

[2:06:58] we wanted to talk about what we submitted

[2:06:59] to the subcommittee but our aggradation

[2:07:00] is what came out of the subcommittee

[2:07:01] which

[2:07:02] is the 50%. When you look at the attachments,

[2:07:03] attachment a shows the 50-50. The

[2:07:05] model. It shows you how much money

[2:07:06] will be collected and then we did

[2:07:07] that

[2:07:08] with the slide to show you what would

[2:07:10] be collected based on the two

[2:07:11] different areas. [ inaudible ]

[2:07:12] >>

[2:07:13] so option three that's listed on the

[2:07:14] slideshow

[2:07:16] came about after.

[2:07:17] >> it is

[2:07:18] a subcommittee that came up with option

[2:07:19] three. We came forward with the recommendation

[2:07:20] and they wanted to look at how we

[2:07:22] --is the delivery of the rates

[2:07:23] a little bit more? So that's where

[2:07:24] they came up with the recommendation

[2:07:25] for

[2:07:27] the council tonight. To go with the

[2:07:28] 50% instead of

[2:07:34] 75 25 . Were full. And

[2:07:37] this is the morning rate,

[2:07:38] so, yeah. The other two rates, they

[2:07:40] would like to be full

[2:07:43] in effect january 1st.

[2:07:44] >>

[2:07:46] okay. Got

[2:07:48] it. Okay. I'm going to reserve further

[2:07:49] comment until

[2:07:50] I've had an opportunity to hear from

[2:07:52] some of the stakeholders

[2:07:58] that have patiently waited to chime

[2:07:59] in, so thank you.

[2:08:00] >> okay. Now kevin

[2:08:01] can hand out those fires.

[2:08:04] I'm sorry.

[2:08:46] >> hi. My name is

[2:08:47] kevin bacon. I live on arlington street

[2:08:49] just down the road from here and

[2:08:52] also use the marina with

[2:08:54] a boat [ inaudible ] I just wanted

[2:08:55] to touch base

[2:08:58] on the narrative

[2:09:00] of the expense and the income generated

[2:09:01] by the

[2:09:04] marina by itself and so this is

[2:09:07] handed to you the 20 year income

[2:09:09] expense accounting produced by the

[2:09:10] city

[2:09:16] staff as pulled

[2:09:17] off of your website. It's from 2006.

[2:09:19] it ends

[2:09:22] around 2023, '24. It's the budget

[2:09:23] and it

[2:09:24] is pretty detailed. And it condensed

[2:09:25] down

[2:09:31] to just an expense and income on that

[2:09:34] first page. And this

[2:09:37] is in an effort to address the

[2:09:43] staff report goal b, strategy 2, engage

[2:09:46] the community about

[2:09:49] the marina's fiscal reality and

[2:09:50] its future. And the reality is that

[2:09:52] the budget shows near break

[2:09:55] even income

[2:09:58] to

[2:10:00] operational expenses. It's got nothing

[2:10:01] to do with the

[2:10:04] capital expenditures. But

[2:10:07] the marina operational expenses

[2:10:09] are conflated with the outlays of

[2:10:10] the

[2:10:12] enterprise fund. Staff writes, the

[2:10:13] city

[2:10:19] has used $1.7 million to cover marina

[2:10:20] needs.

[2:10:22] the message we hear is that

[2:10:25] the marina is costing us

[2:10:27] $1.7 million and I think jay was outraged when

[2:10:28] he heard that back

[2:10:31] in july

[2:10:34] and said we probably want to shut

[2:10:35] down the marina because of that. But

[2:10:37] that's not really the

[2:10:40] case. When you look

[2:10:43] at the --breaking down the

[2:10:46] $1.7 million, dredging project,

[2:10:49] $750,000. That's

[2:10:51] in the 1.7. That is a capital expenditure.

[2:10:54] that's not an operational expense.

[2:10:55] the water

[2:10:58] front

[2:11:00] trust --half $1 million. That is not

[2:11:01] an operational expense. That is a

[2:11:07] capital expenditure.

[2:11:10] design fees for the eastern wall,

[2:11:12] we don't know if that's been spent

[2:11:13] but that's $250,000. I don't think

[2:11:14] we

[2:11:15] spent that. Temporary repairs --the

[2:11:16] fishing pier --the fishing pier is

[2:11:19] not a marina. It's part of

[2:11:22] the enterprise fund, but that

[2:11:28] is not

[2:11:34] an operational expenditure. The funds set aside for

[2:11:35] entrance doc d,

[2:11:36] $60,000, that probably wasn't even

[2:11:37] spent. I don't think so. That was

[2:11:38] the gangway. So,

[2:11:40] in supplemental

[2:11:43] funding for the bates shore, $50,000.

[2:11:44] >>

[2:11:45] your time is up.

[2:11:46] >> so anyhow, that

[2:11:47] bait shop

[2:11:49] operation fund is --shouldn't be part

[2:11:51] of the marina as well. That's been

[2:11:58] closed down.

[2:11:59] >> thank you. >> I

[2:12:00] just want you to address the narrative,

[2:12:01] please.

[2:12:02] >> thanks, kevin. >>

[2:12:07] go ahead.

[2:12:19] >> my

[2:12:21] name is bob emanuel. I live in pacific

[2:12:22] grove but I do have a boat

[2:12:24] here. As a longtime resident, as a

[2:12:25] kid, in fact, my father was a city

[2:12:27] manager here back in the 60s and this

[2:12:28] place has really shrunk. He used

[2:12:30] to be much bigger when I was a kid

[2:12:31] in my mind. Anyway, I was

[2:12:33] out on the ferry --the marine --the

[2:12:34] ferry dock today and I

[2:12:36] was really glad that you left the

[2:12:37] old fairy. When I was a kid,

[2:12:39] there was no bridge. You have to take

[2:12:40] the ferry across

[2:12:42] and it is nice to see people live

[2:12:43] with that. [ inaudible ] but

[2:12:45] I would like to say before I get to

[2:12:46] my main point is

[2:12:49] you compared a lot of marinas. Those

[2:12:50] are

[2:12:51] very nice. I'm familiar with a lot

[2:12:52] of them. The difference is my

[2:12:54] boat is here in the mud twice a day

[2:12:55] and in those other marinas, they are

[2:12:58] not. That said, I don't have any issue

[2:12:59] with

[2:13:01] the 40% increase. I would

[2:13:04] just say almost 40 years I was a civil

[2:13:05] servant for

[2:13:07] the department

[2:13:10] of defense.

[2:13:25] I ran municipal and county services on

[2:13:26] army and navy bases.

[2:13:27] the went through a similar situation

[2:13:28] where we did not want to raise rates.

[2:13:29] we

[2:13:30] kept them low, kept them low, kept

[2:13:32] them low and then all of a

[2:13:33] sudden, we are in a situation where

[2:13:34] we have to jack them up pretty high.

[2:13:36] there are a lot of wonderful people

[2:13:38] living at the marina. For me, no big

[2:13:39] deal. It's a good I come here once

[2:13:41] a week to reacquaint myself with

[2:13:42] my high school friends but for the

[2:13:44] people who live there, I think that

[2:13:45] could be quite expensive. My advice

[2:13:46] per the lesson I learned myself, two,

[2:13:47] three, four,

[2:13:48] 5% per year, rather than 40% every

[2:13:50] --you guys get the point.

[2:13:51] anyways, thank you.

[2:13:52] >> thank you.

[2:13:53] >> who else has

[2:13:56] comments? Jonas pique.

[2:13:57] >> any of

[2:13:59] you own a boat down

[2:14:04] at the -- marina? You live on one.

[2:14:05] so you are familiar

[2:14:08] with

[2:14:09] our docks. I'm on a dock. I can't

[2:14:11] even get my boat out of

[2:14:13] the slip because I'm sitting in the

[2:14:14] mud. Not only is it

[2:14:17] --I can't get out, but

[2:14:20] it is wearing my bottom

[2:14:21] paying off the boat. [ inaudible ]

[2:14:23] I'm sucking up

[2:14:26] mud into mansion so it's causing

[2:14:32] engine problems. B, the

[2:14:33] docks, you can't even walk on them,

[2:14:34] basically and if you do, you have

[2:14:35] to

[2:14:36] watch where you are walking because

[2:14:38] you are going to put your foot through

[2:14:41] the wood. Or

[2:14:42] you stub your toe and you trip. I

[2:14:44] mean, I think all of us

[2:14:47] should go on a field trip and walk

[2:14:48] the docks. You go to the niche, you

[2:14:50] go to

[2:14:56] any other

[2:15:05] marina,

[2:15:06] they are nice concrete docks. They have so

[2:15:08] much more to offer. Yes, you are

[2:15:09] the cheapest here, but you have nothing to

[2:15:11] offer us. There's no fuel. We can't

[2:15:13] get in and out. I don't know how you

[2:15:14] are going to do your light

[2:15:15] parade because everyone is going to

[2:15:17] get stuck at the mouth at the marina.

[2:15:18] and definitely if you are a sailboat.

[2:15:20] you know. I mean, literally, the money

[2:15:21] should

[2:15:22] be going to the marina because that's

[2:15:23] what brought everybody here in the

[2:15:26] first place.

[2:15:27] you got the symbol of a sailboat.

[2:15:29] nobody can come in here with a

[2:15:32] sailboat. The yacht

[2:15:35] club has

[2:15:39] a problem with people coming in on

[2:15:41] cruises. I mean, it's time to work

[2:15:42] on that. That is your moneymaker that

[2:15:44] we are paying for so help us

[2:15:45] out as boat owners. Thank you very

[2:15:47] much.

[2:15:48] >>

[2:15:50] thank you.

[2:15:51] >> any other

[2:15:56] comments tonight?

[2:15:59] all right. How about in the

[2:16:00] virtual audience?

[2:16:01] >> please use the

[2:16:02] raise

[2:16:05] hand

[2:16:08] feature.

[2:16:09] >> I have

[2:16:11] no hands.

[2:16:16] >> all right, so, I'm going to bring

[2:16:17] this back. Sandra,

[2:16:18] you indicated you had some other comments.

[2:16:20] would you like to provide your

[2:16:26] comments now?

[2:16:29] [ inaudible ]

[2:16:30] >> you know, reading

[2:16:31] this staff

[2:16:32] report, it took me back to the recent

[2:16:33] discussion we had on our

[2:16:34] garbage rates. And, you know, how

[2:16:35] he had to do, I think it was a

[2:16:38] double-digit increase on our

[2:16:41] garbage rates and similarly, we

[2:16:47] had prior administrations hadn't done the

[2:16:49] consistent sort of, you know, increases

[2:16:50] that

[2:16:53] certainly I a

[2:16:56] very much

[2:16:59] --I think is very much prudent,

[2:17:00] and I know that our current executive

[2:17:02] team in council all feel that way.

[2:17:08] and

[2:17:20] I am

[2:17:21] very, very -- I share the frustration

[2:17:23] that was expressed here tonight, and

[2:17:24] to the point of,

[2:17:25] you know, what we are doing about

[2:17:26] it, I think staff had laid out

[2:17:28] thank you for that. Some of the improvements

[2:17:29] and it sounds like those improvements

[2:17:30] were

[2:17:31] acknowledged. That f3 has done an

[2:17:32] admirable job in the short amount

[2:17:33] of time

[2:17:34] that we had them. But we have a lot

[2:17:35] more work

[2:17:40] to do, and there is what is doable

[2:17:41] in the short term and then

[2:17:43] it's more of the long term, as well,

[2:17:44] and that we are working to

[2:17:45] address both. So, I wanted to clarify

[2:17:47] that from

[2:17:49] staff because the options before us

[2:17:53] here tonight. The

[2:17:59] third option is in

[2:18:00] the slideshow to go back to the earlier option.

[2:18:02] that is specific to the morning.

[2:18:05] is that --is that correct?

[2:18:06] >> no.

[2:18:07] the third -- yes. The third option

[2:18:11] we presented under the

[2:18:13] mooring fees is a third option recommended

[2:18:14] by the subcommittee. The utilities

[2:18:20] and the

[2:18:26] liveaboard fee, the subcommittee

[2:18:27] accepted as presented.

[2:18:28] >> then my

[2:18:29] question was --in other user fees,

[2:18:30] like

[2:18:32] for parks

[2:18:34] and rec, I believe we have a system

[2:18:35] in place where if somebody demonstrates

[2:18:38] financial

[2:18:39] hardship, that we have some options

[2:18:41] available

[2:18:46] for them. Is there a similar --is

[2:18:47] there some recourse here that

[2:18:50] if somebody does come forward to

[2:18:56] show some

[2:18:59] financial hardship, do we have a way

[2:19:00] to work with them

[2:19:01] or offer any type of relief?

[2:19:02] >> no.

[2:19:03] that is not

[2:19:05] being presented.

[2:19:07] >> so we don't have that. That would've been

[2:19:08] something that I would have liked

[2:19:09] to have

[2:19:11] seen. You are talking 40%.

[2:19:14] you know.

[2:19:17] that is a pretty steep increase. I

[2:19:19] understand why we have to do it. I

[2:19:20] do. I'm not questioning that, but

[2:19:23] I'm also --and I appreciate the subcommittee's

[2:19:25] recommendation, as well, with respect

[2:19:26] to phasing it in. That

[2:19:29] is helpful. But, you know, I personally

[2:19:30] would

[2:19:32] have liked to have seen some type

[2:19:33] of

[2:19:39] financial hardship

[2:19:42] waiver or something there to

[2:19:43] help, but that's just me. But I think

[2:19:45] sort of moving forward, it is

[2:19:48] really incumbent upon

[2:19:49] us to manage these much more closely

[2:19:51] than

[2:19:53] we have, to the commentators earlier

[2:19:54] point,

[2:19:59] you know, the annual two, three, 5%

[2:20:00] we need to

[2:20:01] do --it needs to keep up. Because

[2:20:03] this is a lot to hit

[2:20:09] them with.

[2:20:12] I

[2:20:13] get it. And I share that frustration.

[2:20:14] I'm just trying to figure out how

[2:20:16] we manage it and I think the subcommittee

[2:20:18] has come forward with as

[2:20:19] good as a recommendation as there's

[2:20:21] going to be at this point. But,

[2:20:22] yeah. Those are just some of my thoughts

[2:20:24] that I have, so,

[2:20:30] thank you.

[2:20:31] >> yeah. I

[2:20:33] just had a question

[2:20:39] for staff.

[2:20:40] based on the information that was

[2:20:42] submitted here to council, can you

[2:20:44] all kind of speak to the expenditures

[2:20:45] and

[2:20:46] operational versus capital, just so we

[2:20:48] have clarity?

[2:20:54] >> yes.

[2:21:03] q

[2:21:04] for that. I was just going to ask

[2:21:05] if I could make some clarifications

[2:21:06] on

[2:21:07] that. So, one of the things to understand

[2:21:09] about the marina enterprise fund is

[2:21:10] it

[2:21:11] has five funds and those five funds

[2:21:12] are divided up into different things.

[2:21:13] you

[2:21:14] have capital. You have the marina

[2:21:15] itself. The waterfront area. There's

[2:21:16] one for --what

[2:21:17] is it? Railroad. And what was the

[2:21:18] last one? And debt service for

[2:21:20] debt service. The amounts that we

[2:21:22] put into this presentation were focused on the

[2:21:24] marina and that is fund 78. What kevin presented

[2:21:27] here was how mars

[2:21:28] budget from what their revenue might've

[2:21:30] been from the 10

[2:21:31] year projection. But it is important

[2:21:33] to note on this back in

[2:21:39] 2025 and a lot of this year, we

[2:21:40] had more slips. We had a lot more

[2:21:42] slips. We had the bait shop which

[2:21:43] was

[2:21:45] bringing in revenue. All of

[2:21:46] that revenue went back to the operations

[2:21:48] of the marina. Over time, as we have

[2:21:49] gone through the plaintiff the deficit

[2:21:51] and having to close

[2:21:57] down docs,

[2:21:58] losing boaters and so forth, that

[2:22:00] is what has changed and shifted it

[2:22:01] to what

[2:22:02] we are getting out to the point of

[2:22:03] the discussion we are having tonight

[2:22:04] with the amount. So this is just almar's

[2:22:06] part. It doesn't include --because

[2:22:07] one

[2:22:08] of the things that the city took on

[2:22:09] was a lot of the

[2:22:12] utility cost. There was a

[2:22:15] set utility that they had

[2:22:21] almar

[2:22:24] that they were paying and the rest

[2:22:26] that the city covered in a different fund.

[2:22:27] this is not accurate when you're talking

[2:22:29] about the bigger picture of the entire

[2:22:30] arena. --marina. It

[2:22:33] is only telling part of

[2:22:36] the story.

[2:22:39] expenditures --none of

[2:22:41] them made it was collected in fund 78

[2:22:42] goes to any of these types of

[2:22:45] items so those all come out of fund

[2:22:46] 74,

[2:22:47] which is our capital fund. So the

[2:22:48] marina --the boaters of the

[2:22:54] marina

[2:22:57] do not pay for these

[2:22:58] items. That something that's important

[2:22:59] to clarify. I just wanted to make sure

[2:23:00] --and that's

[2:23:02] --all the --the peer --the work at

[2:23:03] --doing the capital project

[2:23:06] --the land

[2:23:09] use plan

[2:23:15] which is a requirement by the state

[2:23:17] of california. That was not paid for

[2:23:18] by the boaters. Just wanted to verify

[2:23:19] that on those two points.

[2:23:20] >> sorry,

[2:23:21] joe. Just to clarify, then, where

[2:23:22] do those funds

[2:23:23] come from?

[2:23:24] >> a little bit of everything.

[2:23:25] from the general fund, krantz.

[2:23:26] >>

[2:23:27] for the marina operations, since almar's

[2:23:28] budget is not paying especially the

[2:23:29] water

[2:23:30] bill and insurance and a lot of the

[2:23:31] other,

[2:23:36] costs --doing maintenance on

[2:23:37] the marina itself. Those funds before

[2:23:39] I come up to the 2023 fiscal year,

[2:23:40] the

[2:23:42] funds itself [

[2:23:44] inaudible ] in particular for 78 we

[2:23:45] talk

[2:23:51] about, --$97 in deficits in the balance

[2:23:54] --and that's on top of the

[2:23:57] $109,000 loan we already loaned

[2:23:59] them at that point in time. The total

[2:24:00] deficit before fiscal year 2024 is

[2:24:03] $506,000 for marina operations.

[2:24:06] so almar's budget in here is just

[2:24:07] a

[2:24:09] part of it. Only. There's

[2:24:15] a more

[2:24:30] portion and then the portion the city

[2:24:31] handles the

[2:24:32] operation as well. [ inaudible ]

[2:24:33] >>

[2:24:34] can I add the thing I feel like

[2:24:35] neither of you mentioned? I requested

[2:24:37] a copy of the fund 78 so I

[2:24:38] could see the individual line items,

[2:24:39] and the largest line item is salary

[2:24:40] and benefits

[2:24:41] for the employees that work at the

[2:24:42] marina. Right? And that's a 300,000

[2:24:44] --so all of the repairs that are being

[2:24:46] made using this budget, but we

[2:24:47] are paying them, and so I think this

[2:24:49] conversation feels not quite --

[2:24:50] we are not comparing the same buckets

[2:24:53] of monies. We are talking about one

[2:24:55] thing over here and

[2:24:56] then they are talking about something

[2:24:57] completely different, so I don't know

[2:24:58] if it is worth

[2:25:01] providing the council

[2:25:04] the full

[2:25:10] fund

[2:25:11] 78 to talk to if we have additional

[2:25:12] questions about this because that

[2:25:13] has been

[2:25:14] --has always felt a little awkward,

[2:25:15] and I think that the deficit that

[2:25:16] you

[2:25:17] are talking about, and it does not

[2:25:19] --you said

[2:25:22] 390,000

[2:25:23] deficit but that does not include

[2:25:24] the debt service to write to the state,

[2:25:25] so

[2:25:26] it's in addition to that and that's

[2:25:28] how we are coming up with

[2:25:31] this 500 some odd

[2:25:32] thousand year rite, of the loans we

[2:25:33] are giving to the fund and those numbers

[2:25:35] are never really presented at the

[2:25:36] same time so I think from our perspective

[2:25:37] it

[2:25:39] gets confusing why we are saying how

[2:25:40] we are spending the

[2:25:42] money.

[2:25:43] >> I can help because I know I

[2:25:44] brought this up in my

[2:25:46] last presentation, so there are

[2:25:49] two things.

[2:25:59] there is operational, right? And there's

[2:26:01] a loan, as well. In the

[2:26:03] mix of the $560,000, so what we started putting

[2:26:04] into our budget and also the

[2:26:05] forecast, and I'm sorry, june, if

[2:26:07] I'm off on the number but I recall

[2:26:10] it is

[2:26:13] $375,000 for f3

[2:26:14] operations. Then I get that correct?

[2:26:16] >> yes. >> there is the loan

[2:26:17] payment and then the utility payment

[2:26:18] that makes up the 516,000 print in

[2:26:19] ongoing years it

[2:26:20] is 650,000, right, in total. There

[2:26:21] was capital projects mentioned earlier.

[2:26:22] that's a whole

[2:26:23] different bucket, but what I have

[2:26:31] to reinforcement

[2:26:37] --reinforce with the council --this

[2:26:38] council in prior councils, by the

[2:26:40] way, I have taken money out of the

[2:26:41] reserves

[2:26:42] to pay for those capital improvements,

[2:26:43] so, either, whether it's operations

[2:26:44] or whether it

[2:26:45] is capital, we have been taking money

[2:26:46] out of reserves for

[2:26:48] the marina, and it's unsustainable.

[2:26:49] one point I do want to

[2:26:50] make, too, and this is where it is

[2:26:52] unfortunate because there is an impact,

[2:26:55] right?

[2:26:58] two people,

[2:27:09] and I have set up here for the last three

[2:27:10] years having to take similar

[2:27:11] conversations on our city administration

[2:27:12] fees, that were significantly behind

[2:27:13] --you remember a few

[2:27:14] years ago, mike chandler had to bring,

[2:27:16] you know, we hadn't touched those

[2:27:17] in

[2:27:18] 10 years and we had to just rip the

[2:27:19] band-aid off. And in same with

[2:27:20] our recreation fees. Just two years

[2:27:22] ago, had to bring fee increases of

[2:27:23] 50,

[2:27:24] 60% because we hadn't touched the

[2:27:28] fees, and

[2:27:30] --in 10, 15, 20 years, but at the

[2:27:31] same time, we are sitting here,

[2:27:32] cutting every department down to its

[2:27:34] core. We almost had to freeze positions

[2:27:35] this past

[2:27:38] fiscal year. Right, so it's very difficult.

[2:27:40] it's not that we

[2:27:42] don't empathize with that user groups

[2:27:43] who are

[2:27:46] affected by

[2:27:49] this, but,

[2:27:57] everyone in the community --tonight,

[2:27:58] it's obviously the boaters. Right?

[2:27:59] and

[2:28:00] the live aboards, but in the past,

[2:28:01] we've had to deal with other user

[2:28:02] groups

[2:28:03] within the committee, so it's never

[2:28:04] easy, and I just want to recognize

[2:28:05] that, but at the same time, there's

[2:28:07] really not

[2:28:09] much --we are operating at a skeleton

[2:28:10] at this point in the city. It's

[2:28:11] a give-and-take and I recognize a

[2:28:13] difficult decision in front

[2:28:19] of you.

[2:28:21] >> okay, so, lauren, thank you for

[2:28:22] that context. Very helpful. So

[2:28:24] I guess sort of --assuming --okay

[2:28:25] --so we are

[2:28:28] going to act on

[2:28:30] this tonight. What is the next step?

[2:28:31] how do we ensure there's

[2:28:37] regular reviews --that we are bird

[2:28:38] dogging this

[2:28:39] and doing actual work necessary to

[2:28:40] make sure

[2:28:46] that our

[2:28:49] dose that we are keeping up with

[2:28:50] the actual expenses, if that makes

[2:28:52] sense. What reassurance can we provide

[2:28:53] to the stakeholders

[2:28:54] moving forward that we are not going to

[2:28:55] find ourselves in a situation like

[2:28:57] this. What are the sort of --what

[2:28:58] have we learned? What sort of

[2:29:00] policy changes will we be making to

[2:29:01] ensure that a future council

[2:29:04] doesn't find themselves in a situation

[2:29:06] like this.

[2:29:07] >> it's already done. You adopted

[2:29:08] a

[2:29:13] strategic plan.

[2:29:15] it spells out loud and clear that

[2:29:16] this council is committed to reducing

[2:29:18] subsidies that are straining the general

[2:29:19] funds. So we have it very clearly

[2:29:20] spelled

[2:29:25] out.

[2:29:31] in prior fee increases that

[2:29:33] we've taken in other areas, though,

[2:29:34] you have consistently said to us,

[2:29:35] yeah, let's put

[2:29:36] this on a more routine schedule, so,

[2:29:37] for example, as you know, our administrative

[2:29:38] fees

[2:29:39] come every year. Our rec fees come

[2:29:40] every --years, so things don't fall

[2:29:42] behind. Same --same potential here.

[2:29:43] once very challenging here is we have

[2:29:44] a project

[2:29:46] coming up, so it's hard

[2:29:49] to know when we would actually come with

[2:29:50] another fee

[2:29:52] increase in

[2:29:54] the future, because, we don't --we

[2:29:55] don't really understand the timeline

[2:29:56] with

[2:29:58] the project, and the other piece of

[2:29:59] this

[2:30:01] is when we come in

[2:30:04] the spring

[2:30:13] and jim and I

[2:30:15] bring, you know, a discussion about

[2:30:16] long-term fiscal sustainability, I

[2:30:17] think we will have a

[2:30:18] better sense there about what our

[2:30:19] options are on how to close the gap

[2:30:20] at

[2:30:21] the marina, so it's hard to answer

[2:30:22] now, whether in another two years

[2:30:23] we

[2:30:24] are going to be coming back --because

[2:30:26] the project might be moving in

[2:30:27] a direction at that point, where,

[2:30:29] yeah. Exactly. It's hard to know

[2:30:32] today.

[2:30:33] >> no. I --I --

[2:30:35] I recognize

[2:30:36] the discomfort. I'm sitting here,

[2:30:38] having

[2:30:41] flashbacks because my day job, I

[2:30:42] work for the state, and we went through

[2:30:44] this same

[2:30:50] exercise, where,

[2:30:59] fees for the work we do had

[2:31:00] not been adjusted for 20, 30 years,

[2:31:01] and for some of our licensees, it

[2:31:02] was

[2:31:03] sticker shock, and we can get into

[2:31:06] why previous administrations weren't

[2:31:08] raising fees every two or

[2:31:11] 3% per year, but we had to make

[2:31:17] the adjustment

[2:31:21] because if we didn't, we were moving

[2:31:22] towards the brink of insolvency, but

[2:31:23] in some

[2:31:25] cases, we did do a step approach so

[2:31:26] over

[2:31:32] two years, in some cases

[2:31:33] we would say, hey, we would work with

[2:31:35] licensees to provide some

[2:31:38] type of payment

[2:31:39] plan if there was --was --was hardship,

[2:31:41] but it's about writing

[2:31:43] the ship and very similar to what

[2:31:47] we are

[2:31:53] experiences tonight,

[2:31:56] even with the increases, it's still

[2:31:58] not covering all of the cost. But

[2:31:59] we have to

[2:32:02] try to

[2:32:05] do something to try

[2:32:06] to prevent the bleeding. Now, if we

[2:32:08] were down

[2:32:11] the path with

[2:32:12] some other projects on the horizon,

[2:32:13] we probably wouldn't be sitting here

[2:32:14] having

[2:32:15] this conversation, but unfortunately,

[2:32:17] we

[2:32:20] aren't there yet.

[2:32:22] but we have to try to do something

[2:32:26] because, again, this is taking

[2:32:29] away from our

[2:32:32] general fund and if

[2:32:35] our reserves

[2:32:37] go below a certain threshold with

[2:32:38] our general fund, then this is

[2:32:41] a very different conversation here.

[2:32:43] that we are having as a council and

[2:32:44] having to talk of

[2:32:50] --

[2:32:56] to

[2:32:57] our residents about it. I know having

[2:32:59] gone through it, it is an uncomfortable

[2:33:00] situation. You're talking about increases

[2:33:02] and my boat is stuck

[2:33:08] in mud. I --I --I hear

[2:33:10] it. So, we are just trying to --given

[2:33:11] the hand that we have

[2:33:13] to play, to just tried to do something

[2:33:14] to mitigate what we are having to

[2:33:17] fund to keep

[2:33:20] the marina operational at this

[2:33:23] time, so.

[2:33:24] >>

[2:33:26] I just want to

[2:33:31] remind everyone that we are in a very

[2:33:32] different place than we were just

[2:33:35] a couple of

[2:33:38] years ago.

[2:33:44] there's been posts on rants and raves

[2:33:45] where people say,

[2:33:46] have they even dredged up marine in

[2:33:47] the last few decades

[2:33:48] and someone that jackson says, yes,

[2:33:50] we dredged in 2020 22

[2:33:56] -- 2022 --and the seawalls --

[2:33:58] we just finished the repairs of the

[2:33:59] fishing pier which blocked an

[2:34:05] entire hole that had been set a minting

[2:34:07] in that whole side of the marina and

[2:34:08] one of the things that has been

[2:34:10] brought up over the last couple of

[2:34:11] years is

[2:34:12] talking about public-private partnership.

[2:34:14] that's the direction we need to go

[2:34:15] and anyone who

[2:34:16] has been here knows that is what our council

[2:34:17] had to present to

[2:34:19] us in july and we are in the process

[2:34:20] of talking through some of

[2:34:21] that, so we are not raising rates

[2:34:23] and

[2:34:26] doing nothing.

[2:34:28] we are raising rates while we are

[2:34:29] doing a bunch of other stuff and

[2:34:32] I do want to thank you

[2:34:35] for including all of the work that

[2:34:37] f3 has done that again, a couple of

[2:34:38] years ago --last december

[2:34:41] --f3

[2:34:43] has only been around since last january.

[2:34:44] at this time last year, we couldn't

[2:34:45] you

[2:34:46] all in the face and say that things

[2:34:47] were happening because

[2:34:50] a lot of that repair was not

[2:34:55] getting done, and in this calendar

[2:34:56] year, I've seen so

[2:34:57] many improvements. I acknowledge they're

[2:34:59] not perfect but we've all been

[2:35:05] down there. We've all taken --

[2:35:06] we either have friends with bullets

[2:35:07] or we've done field trips. We know

[2:35:08] what it looks like

[2:35:09] and it has improved significantly,

[2:35:11] so I recognize that --what you

[2:35:14] said --

[2:35:16] we are always the ones stuck approving

[2:35:17] rate increases which is super frustrating,

[2:35:18] but

[2:35:19] we know that it's not just the rate

[2:35:20] increases. This

[2:35:22] is a much bigger project and a much

[2:35:23] bigger problem and we are here

[2:35:29] for it,

[2:35:35] and we are playing the wrong game

[2:35:36] for the

[2:35:37] marina and so I appreciate, lauren,

[2:35:38] your comment about, we don't know

[2:35:39] where we

[2:35:40] are going to be because potentially,

[2:35:41] you know, this time next year, we

[2:35:42] are

[2:35:44] going

[2:35:47] to be

[2:35:53] talking about

[2:35:55] steps 4 for that partnership. We are

[2:35:56] going to be in a different place

[2:35:58] in a couple of months if everything

[2:35:59] goes the way that it was propose to

[2:36:01] us over the summer, so, yeah. That

[2:36:02] was my comment because I know we have

[2:36:04] received lots of --some frustration

[2:36:05] from the public and from people here

[2:36:06] tonight.

[2:36:07] I'm sorry. We already close to the

[2:36:09] public comment process but I'd

[2:36:10] be happy to talk to you after the

[2:36:11] meeting. Yeah. Thanks. So, let's see.

[2:36:12] tonight, it's

[2:36:13] the public hearing. We are supposed

[2:36:14] to adopt a resolution. Was there any

[2:36:16] concern --any changes we wanted to

[2:36:18] make? I

[2:36:19] believe option three was on the table

[2:36:21] tonight. It was

[2:36:27] to reduce

[2:36:29] from the 75, 25 to the 50, 50 split.

[2:36:30] were

[2:36:31] there any other changes that people

[2:36:33] wanted to make or based on

[2:36:39] comments received. I think kevin

[2:36:45] for his

[2:36:47] comments about changing the narrative.

[2:36:49] I think that is absolutely a fair

[2:36:50] comment. Just understanding that the

[2:36:51] folks that are

[2:36:57] renting slips,

[2:37:18] they are --

[2:37:19] they are not spending $500,000 a year.

[2:37:21] so that's why I think that's the narrative

[2:37:22] he wanted to make so I just wanted

[2:37:24] to acknowledge that. Thank you for

[2:37:25] pointing

[2:37:26] that out. So what handed us was the

[2:37:27] expenses associated with renting slips,

[2:37:28] but

[2:37:29] then we did have a follow-up conversation

[2:37:30] about the other expenses that the

[2:37:31] city has

[2:37:32] to deal with. So. So, anyway, yeah.

[2:37:33] was there anything anyone wanted to

[2:37:34] add

[2:37:35] before we --anyone would like to make

[2:37:36] a motion then, as written?

[2:37:37] >>

[2:37:38] I make a motion that we adopt a resolution

[2:37:39] amending the marina fee schedule related

[2:37:40] to mooring, utility, and liveaboard

[2:37:42] fees

[2:37:43] >> second. >> all in favor,

[2:37:45] please say

[2:37:48] aye .

[2:37:51] >> aye. >> motion passes. >> all

[2:37:54] right. Our next

[2:37:57] item is

[2:38:03] conduct a public hearing, waive

[2:38:05] the reading, and introduce an ordinance

[2:38:06] in approving zoning text amendment

[2:38:09] to the mmc.

[2:38:15] thanks.

[2:38:16] >>

[2:38:21] thank you, mayor zorn. I

[2:38:24] am here to discuss several

[2:38:30] text amendments.

[2:38:36] [ inaudible - low volume ]

[2:38:42] okay. So before

[2:38:48] we get too far into things, I

[2:38:49] would like to discuss why we are here

[2:38:51] and some other

[2:38:57] important context.

[2:39:09] so there's a couple of things

[2:39:10] in the ordinance. I'll get into the

[2:39:11] specifics shortly, but here's a high-level

[2:39:12] summary. The vast

[2:39:13] majority of the ordinance and what

[2:39:15] we'll be discussing tonight is the

[2:39:16] establishment of

[2:39:17] an inclusionary housing program. We

[2:39:18] are also providing some additional

[2:39:19] modifications to our offstreet

[2:39:20] parking standards, permitting unbundled

[2:39:21] parking, establishing ground mounted

[2:39:22] mechanical equipment, clarifying some

[2:39:23] adu regulations --

[2:39:24] state exemption adus, throughout

[2:39:30] the ordinance.

[2:39:33] now we know what's in the ordinance.

[2:39:34] here's some important policy context

[2:39:35] that the streets why we are here.

[2:39:36] for scott housing

[2:39:37] element provides direction for the

[2:39:39] city to consider adopting

[2:39:44] an inclusionary housing ordinance.

[2:39:45] second is consistency with the metropolitan

[2:39:46] transportation

[2:39:47] commission's transit oriented communities,

[2:39:48] also known as the toc policy. The

[2:39:49] toc policy is a voluntary program

[2:39:51] that rewards the

[2:39:54] sword significant

[2:39:59] funding including inclusionary housing

[2:40:00] requirements and some of

[2:40:01] the parking management strategies

[2:40:03] that we are discussing today.

[2:40:04] >>

[2:40:06] I'm sorry. In the

[2:40:09] back --

[2:40:12] I'm sorry, sir.

[2:40:13] >>

[2:40:15] gentlemen.

[2:40:16] >>

[2:40:21] it's

[2:40:22] difficult to hear the presentation.

[2:40:24] thank you.

[2:40:25] >> and just as her mother, city council

[2:40:26] has

[2:40:27] previously directed staff to update our policies

[2:40:28] and regulations to be consistent with

[2:40:29] the toc

[2:40:30] policy. Ab 1505 has

[2:40:36] requirements . This is

[2:40:37] consistent with goal c, economic development

[2:40:39] and housing from strategic

[2:40:45] policies.

[2:40:48] so we are going to be talking about

[2:40:49] a

[2:40:50] lot of technicalities around affordable

[2:40:51] housing. Before we dive too deep,

[2:40:52] it is impertinent

[2:40:53] to take a moment and talk about what

[2:40:54] affordable housing actually means.

[2:40:55] there are a

[2:41:00] lot of

[2:41:06] concerns. I want to make sure we are

[2:41:08] all on the same page. Affordable housing

[2:41:09] is just a blanket term that is also

[2:41:10] sometimes called lower income housing

[2:41:12] or below market rate housing. What

[2:41:13] it boils down

[2:41:18] to is

[2:41:21] affordable housing is a requirement

[2:41:22] that homes

[2:41:23] to be printed or so the film is based

[2:41:24] on one, their household income and

[2:41:26] two, their household size. Not all

[2:41:27] affordable housing is the same. Based

[2:41:28] on

[2:41:29] these two variables of income and

[2:41:30] size, there are different tiers of

[2:41:31] affordable housing

[2:41:33] but it is based on ami, which

[2:41:36] is the median income level for house

[2:41:37] hold levels based

[2:41:39] on the county so half of the households

[2:41:40] in

[2:41:41] the county earn more. Half earned

[2:41:42] less. For

[2:41:44] example in contra costa county, the

[2:41:45] jiggling for a family of

[2:41:48] four was

[2:41:51] $155,700. Now that we know

[2:41:54] what the

[2:41:56] ami is, we can do calculations to

[2:41:57] figure out what the various income

[2:41:58] and

[2:42:00] affordable --affordability

[2:42:03] levels are for different

[2:42:05] budgets. They generally fall into the categories

[2:42:06] you see in the columns. Acutely low

[2:42:07] is

[2:42:10] 17%

[2:42:12] aye --ami very low is up to 50. Close

[2:42:13] up to

[2:42:19] 80.

[2:42:22] water it is up to 120. When

[2:42:23] summons is affordable housing, I can

[2:42:24] mean a lot of different things depending

[2:42:25] on

[2:42:26] who it is intended to serve. Now,

[2:42:28] one of the biggest

[2:42:29] misconceptions about affordable housing

[2:42:30] is that it is for only the lowest

[2:42:31] wage

[2:42:32] earners. While that can be true for

[2:42:34] some projects --15, 30% ami,

[2:42:35] it's not actually usually the case.

[2:42:37] for instance, nausea contra

[2:42:40] costa

[2:42:46] county --

[2:42:49] hundred $86,000 is

[2:42:50] considered moderate income. Both of

[2:42:51] these families could qualify for affordable

[2:42:52] housing. And

[2:42:53] that really surprises people because

[2:42:54] they don't realize that affordable

[2:42:55] housing

[2:42:56] --they're not thinking families that

[2:42:58] make six figures.

[2:43:04] so, with that out of the way, let's

[2:43:05] get into what the actual inclusionary housing

[2:43:07] program that

[2:43:10] we are proposing is. So,

[2:43:11] starting off what is inclusionary

[2:43:12] housing? Sometimes it is referred

[2:43:16] to as

[2:43:17] inclusionary zoning but it refers

[2:43:18] to requirements imposed on developers

[2:43:19] of residential projects to set

[2:43:22] aside a

[2:43:23] shared --a share of their proposed

[2:43:24] units as affordable housing. Inclusionary

[2:43:25] housing can be

[2:43:31] limited to

[2:43:39] address segregation by ensuring housing

[2:43:40] is available for lower

[2:43:41] wage workers, guarding against concentrations

[2:43:42] of poverty and events and making it

[2:43:43] possible for lower

[2:43:44] income households to live in higher

[2:43:45] resourced neighborhoods. Okay, so

[2:43:46] now that we have covered

[2:43:49] our bases let's talk

[2:43:50] about the program. So the next two

[2:43:52] slides are the most important for

[2:43:53] understanding. Projects which generally

[2:43:55] have the creation

[2:44:01] of 11

[2:44:05] new dwelling units will be required

[2:44:06] to comply. However, there are certain

[2:44:07] types of exclusions.

[2:44:08] that includes projects like reconstructions,

[2:44:09] modifications to existing buildings

[2:44:10] and other projects that you see

[2:44:11] listed here. Now, these types of qualifying

[2:44:13] projects would be

[2:44:19] required to dedicate 15% of their

[2:44:20] total units to affordable housing. Depending

[2:44:21] on if they are rental or ownership,

[2:44:22] the average ami

[2:44:25] must meet 80 or 120% of

[2:44:28] ami average. 120

[2:44:34] for ownership.

[2:44:42] to kind of put these regulations into

[2:44:43] a little bit of

[2:44:44] context, I provided two real-world

[2:44:45] examples of recently approved projects.

[2:44:46] the first is the

[2:44:49] amare apartments project which

[2:44:52] is

[2:44:53] currently approved for 183 units.

[2:44:54] hypothetically, if we were to apply

[2:44:55] our program here,

[2:44:57] 15% of their units would need to be

[2:44:58] affordable which would equate to

[2:45:00] 28 units being the restricted. Affordable.

[2:45:01] from there, again, rental

[2:45:03] would have to have an average of no

[2:45:04] more

[2:45:07] than 80% ami, so there's a different

[2:45:08] way you

[2:45:09] can break that down but here's just

[2:45:10] an example of a

[2:45:13] potential income unit mix there. And

[2:45:14] then the

[2:45:15] same thing for the wyoming heights

[2:45:16] project which was just recently approved

[2:45:17] and

[2:45:19] is

[2:45:20] the ownership project for 21 townhomes.

[2:45:22] if we were to apply these standards,

[2:45:23] seven

[2:45:25] of the

[2:45:28] units would

[2:45:34] be required to be affordable

[2:45:36] housing. And again, that one is 120% ami,

[2:45:37] so the mix can be a little

[2:45:38] bit different depending on the rental

[2:45:40] or ownership components.

[2:45:41] >> can I

[2:45:42] interrupt really

[2:45:43] quickly? This is not the actual breakdown

[2:45:44] of

[2:45:45] affordable units. These are hypothetical

[2:45:46] numbers.

[2:45:47] >> and just for context,

[2:45:48] amare project

[2:45:50] isn't entitled for nine affordable

[2:45:52] units and the wyoming heights project

[2:45:53] is

[2:45:55] entitled

[2:45:58] 48. --

[2:46:00] for 8. Leon two general requirements

[2:46:07] of inclusionary units. Any units built on

[2:46:08] site would need to be of a standard

[2:46:10] comparable to the above

[2:46:16] moderate units

[2:46:27] or the market rate units. This includes

[2:46:28] the design, the finishes, the access

[2:46:29] to amenities. These units need to

[2:46:30] be reasonably dispersed throughout

[2:46:31] the project site kind

[2:46:33] of how you would envision it in this

[2:46:34] image that you see here. Really, the

[2:46:36] goal is to make affordable units indistinguishable

[2:46:37] from market rate units. You shouldn't

[2:46:38] be able

[2:46:39] to go to a project site and figure

[2:46:40] out which ones are affordable and

[2:46:42] which ones are market rate. So, to

[2:46:43] assist in offsetting the cost of incorporating

[2:46:44] affordable housing into these types

[2:46:49] of projects,

[2:47:18] we do make sure that these projects

[2:47:19] are available for a couple

[2:47:20] of different incentives. The first

[2:47:22] is they would still be eligible for

[2:47:23] california state density

[2:47:24] bonus law which provides a pretty

[2:47:25] significant density bonus to projects

[2:47:26] already providing affordable housing.

[2:47:27] it also allows them several concessions

[2:47:28] and waivers to development standards.

[2:47:29] things like heights,

[2:47:30] setbacks, and light coverage, or projects

[2:47:31] would be eligible for development

[2:47:32] incentive and community benefits

[2:47:33] program which was passed I believe

[2:47:34] last year, which provides even greater

[2:47:35] residential

[2:47:36] density bonus then under state. The first

[2:47:37] is we are proposing to explicitly

[2:47:43] permit unbundled

[2:47:44] it allows

[2:47:46] them several

[2:47:48] this would not be a

[2:47:50] requirement of projects. It would

[2:47:51] just

[2:47:52] create the option. Another requirement

[2:47:54] of the chick told us we

[2:47:57] are providing

[2:47:58] --administrative offices for any new

[2:48:00] development. And while not

[2:48:03] a requirement

[2:48:06] of the

[2:48:09] toc

[2:48:10] policy we are proposing a couple of

[2:48:11] additional cleanup to create some

[2:48:12] parking standards and ratios

[2:48:13] for retail complexes and shopping

[2:48:16] centers. The code currently lacks

[2:48:17] regulations relating to small ground

[2:48:18] mounted income

[2:48:21] such as

[2:48:24] hvac and [ inaudible ] which

[2:48:25] has been a gray area and as I could.

[2:48:27] we are proposing to allow

[2:48:29] them to project into the side yard

[2:48:30] setbacks.

[2:48:33] no closer than three pairs --

[2:48:36] feet

[2:48:37] --closer to the primary structure

[2:48:39] as opposed to the

[2:48:40] property line. So just add some clarification

[2:48:42] to

[2:48:48] the zoning.

[2:48:51] we also have a couple of updates

[2:48:52] to our adu code. The first one is related

[2:48:54] to privacy standards. So the zoning

[2:48:57] ordinance generally only permits adus

[2:48:58] to

[2:48:59] be two stories if they are additions

[2:49:00] to existing structures or if there's

[2:49:01] some

[2:49:03] kind of approval

[2:49:04] of an exception. So to alleviate the

[2:49:06] potential privacy concerns of a two-story

[2:49:07] adu we incorporated devisee standards

[2:49:09] such as frosted

[2:49:10] or opaque windows or windows having

[2:49:18] to be

[2:49:25] a certain height above the floor level. The

[2:49:27] intent was always for these standards

[2:49:28] to apply to windows only on second

[2:49:29] stories, however, that's not unfortunately

[2:49:30] the way it is

[2:49:31] written in the codes of this is more

[2:49:33] of a cleanup to make sure

[2:49:34] that these privacy standards are enforced

[2:49:36] on the second story

[2:49:41] windows only. And second adu has to

[2:49:42] do

[2:49:43] --amendment has to do with the state

[2:49:45] exemption adus. I'll kind of get into

[2:49:46] what

[2:49:47] those are in just a second but generally

[2:49:48] we are just doing a little

[2:49:49] bit of cleanup related to those. So

[2:49:51] after publication of the

[2:49:57] planning commission

[2:49:58] ordinance we received one public comment from

[2:49:59] the california housing defense --

[2:50:00] I forget the acronym.

[2:50:02] defense fund. Thank you. So calhdf.

[2:50:03] they had

[2:50:06] two comments. One is that we

[2:50:07] are incorrectly referencing the state

[2:50:09] good. We corrected

[2:50:10] that any state ordinance. It just

[2:50:12] hasn't been reflected in the online

[2:50:13] code

[2:50:14] yet. [ inaudible ] the second had

[2:50:15] to do with how we

[2:50:20] treat state exemption adus. The state

[2:50:21] exemption adus are an envelope

[2:50:22] for adus. High requirements, square-foot

[2:50:24] requirements

[2:50:29] pretty you meet those requirements,

[2:50:30] the city basically has no

[2:50:31] discretion and you're allowed to go

[2:50:33] straight for building

[2:50:34] permit. Calhdf had a common related

[2:50:36] to how he described those in our

[2:50:41] code. And we were applying some of

[2:50:42] our discretionary standards to them that

[2:50:45] for clarity we were never

[2:50:48] doing that.

[2:50:50] we already had some carveout at the

[2:50:51] beginning but we went

[2:50:52] ahead and made some additional clarifications

[2:50:54] to ensure that that is extremely clear

[2:50:55] in

[2:51:00] our code.

[2:51:06] and finally, we presented the

[2:51:07] ordinance to the planning commission

[2:51:08] on october 28th. There was a minority

[2:51:09] concern about

[2:51:10] the unbundled parking amendment in

[2:51:11] the ordinance. There was a citation

[2:51:12] of concerns that it

[2:51:13] could potentially result in price

[2:51:15] gouging separating the pricing --

[2:51:16] leases

[2:51:17] --and there was a motion to remove

[2:51:18] it from the ordinance but the motion

[2:51:21] failed and

[2:51:24] --adopted --with some other

[2:51:30] minor amendments.

[2:51:53] okay. So with that, tonight's recommendation

[2:51:54] is a little long so please bear

[2:51:55] with me. Staff's recommendation is

[2:51:56] to conduct a public hearing, waive

[2:51:57] the reading, and introduce

[2:51:58] an ordinance approving zoning text

[2:51:59] mems to the martinez municipal code

[2:52:00] by 1, adding chapter

[2:52:01] 22.82, inclusionary housing, 2, amending

[2:52:02] chapters 22.04, definitions, and chapters

[2:52:03] 22.12, residential districts to

[2:52:04] reference a new chapter 22.82, 3,

[2:52:09] amending

[2:52:10] chapter 22.3 for general requirements

[2:52:11] and exceptions to add regulations

[2:52:12] related to ground mounted mechanical

[2:52:13] equipment, 4,

[2:52:14] amending chapter 22.36, offstreet

[2:52:15] parking and loading facilities to

[2:52:16] update

[2:52:18] automobile and bicycle parking ratios

[2:52:19] for residential, commercial,

[2:52:20] and office projects and permit unbundled

[2:52:21] parking pursuant to the housing element

[2:52:27] and ntc,

[2:52:36] metropolitan transpiration commissions

[2:52:37] parking

[2:52:38] pursuant to the housing element and

[2:52:39] metropolitan transportation commission's

[2:52:40] transit oriented communities, policy,

[2:52:41] 4 amending chapter

[2:52:42] 22.43 accessory to units and junior

[2:52:43] accessory dwelling in a stick or fight

[2:52:44] privacy standards

[2:52:45] for two-story and second-story detached

[2:52:46] accessory

[2:52:51] dwelling units.

[2:52:57] with that, I

[2:52:59] am happy to answer any questions from

[2:53:00] the council.

[2:53:01] >> thank you very much

[2:53:02] for

[2:53:03] all of that. Everyone, please make

[2:53:04] a note that he read the whole thing

[2:53:05] so

[2:53:06] we need to make a motion, we are good.

[2:53:07] >> well, just one, the numbering

[2:53:08] seems like it was off. It was 1234,

[2:53:09] and then five. Shouldn't it be

[2:53:11] six?

[2:53:12] >> yes. It should be. >> yeah.

[2:53:13] so.

[2:53:14] >> thank you for catching that.

[2:53:15] >> my only comment was I really appreciate

[2:53:16] so

[2:53:17] many of the clarifications you made

[2:53:18] and some of

[2:53:21] the graphics. Oftentimes, people who

[2:53:22] aren't in

[2:53:23] planning have a hard time understanding

[2:53:24] some of the words that are used so

[2:53:27] I appreciate the

[2:53:30] visual. Does have questions for

[2:53:34] him about

[2:53:35] any of the items presented tonight?

[2:53:36] >> no. I appreciate the clarity. It

[2:53:37] made a

[2:53:40] lot of sense.

[2:53:42] I too share concerns around just the

[2:53:43] term affordable

[2:53:46] housing because it just has a

[2:53:52] different connotation

[2:53:57] if you say workforce housing then

[2:53:58] people perk up than affordable

[2:53:59] housing so I appreciate you just laying

[2:54:00] out the chart and really, we were

[2:54:01] kind

[2:54:02] of going back and forth. It is just

[2:54:04] unfathomable that one

[2:54:06] is considered low income off of $120,000

[2:54:10] a year. That's a whole

[2:54:13] other story but thank you for

[2:54:14] your presentation.

[2:54:15] >> welcome to the

[2:54:16] bay

[2:54:22] area.

[2:54:23] >> thank you very much and for the

[2:54:25] presentation.

[2:54:28] appreciate it.

[2:54:29] looking at the staff report, a couple

[2:54:31] of questions that had come

[2:54:34] to mind. The section on

[2:54:37] page five, alternative means

[2:54:39] of compliance. So you referenced ab

[2:54:44] 1505 . There are these alternatives

[2:54:46] that are laid

[2:54:52] out. So, this --if this is

[2:54:55] adopted

[2:54:56] tonight, and these are the options

[2:54:57] that would be available to affordable housing

[2:54:58] developers

[2:55:04] to meet

[2:55:08] their requirements. Correct? They

[2:55:09] could take advantage of one of these,

[2:55:10] all of

[2:55:11] these? Is there a limit? How does

[2:55:13] that work?

[2:55:14] >>

[2:55:15] for clarification, this would be for

[2:55:16] any developer. Not just affordable

[2:55:17] housing developers.

[2:55:18] >>

[2:55:21] thank you.

[2:55:22] >> yeah. They would be

[2:55:23] --the

[2:55:24] language in the code is carved out

[2:55:25] that they can take advantage of one,

[2:55:28] multiple combination

[2:55:31] of these options and alternatives.

[2:55:33] >> okay. So, in the cities that have

[2:55:37] moved and adopted inclusionary

[2:55:43] housing policy,

[2:55:53] what has been the general trend? Have they

[2:55:55] actually seen -- have they

[2:55:56] been able to move the needle on these

[2:55:57] types of projects in their respective

[2:55:58] communities?

[2:55:59] >> yeah,

[2:56:00] so, in my research, the turner center

[2:56:01] out of uc berkeley, which is one of

[2:56:02] the foremost leaders in housing policy

[2:56:03] research, they did a pretty thorough

[2:56:04] study

[2:56:09] and analyzed the effects of inclusionary

[2:56:10] housing ordinance and their general consensus

[2:56:12] is that it tends to slightly reduce overall

[2:56:17] housing production but increase overall

[2:56:19] housing production.

[2:56:20] >>

[2:56:22] interesting. Okay.

[2:56:23] >>

[2:56:24] and then the last question I had was

[2:56:25] with

[2:56:28] respect to

[2:56:29] the parking that you referenced as

[2:56:31] part of

[2:56:34] your presentation. I

[2:56:37] could see unbundled parking making

[2:56:38] sense,

[2:56:40] particularly if you are within a certain

[2:56:43] diameter

[2:56:46] radius of [ inaudible ]

[2:56:49] forgive me. I get

[2:56:52] my terminology --

[2:56:53] >> major transit stops. >> if you

[2:56:55] say okay, we built

[2:57:01] something not too

[2:57:02] far from the amtrak station. Somebody says,

[2:57:04] I don't need a car. I have

[2:57:07] the train, or I can walk to

[2:57:08] the bus. Fair. Right? We build something

[2:57:10] closer to virginia hills, it becomes

[2:57:13] --it

[2:57:14] becomes a little bit of a different

[2:57:16] ball

[2:57:21] game. Right? But if I understand you

[2:57:22] correctly, it's not a mandate. It's

[2:57:25] an option. So, that would be

[2:57:28] up to the developer

[2:57:31] to say,

[2:57:34] I think

[2:57:36] I'm going to get more people here.

[2:57:37] parking is going to have to

[2:57:38] be a necessity based on the layout

[2:57:40] of the proposal. Right? So, I just

[2:57:41] wanted

[2:57:42] to kind of feel that out and make

[2:57:43] sure I was understanding that correct

[2:57:44] because

[2:57:48] from a developer standpoint, I could

[2:57:49] see it being advantageous

[2:57:51] on one hand but then on the other

[2:57:52] hand, it may not

[2:57:58] make sense,

[2:58:01] but we are not, we are just

[2:58:02] giving them the option to do that.

[2:58:04] we are not requiring them to do that.

[2:58:06] >> right. >> and I just want to clarify,

[2:58:07] generally speaking, it's been seen

[2:58:08] that

[2:58:09] unbundling parking reduces the cost

[2:58:10] of housing because if you are paying

[2:58:11] for the price

[2:58:16] of parking

[2:58:25] but

[2:58:27] you don't use it, you are basically

[2:58:28] subsidizing all of your neighbors,

[2:58:29] or they are

[2:58:30] subsidizing you, and that's already

[2:58:31] included in the cost of your housing

[2:58:32] as opposed to

[2:58:33] if you detach the two, you technically

[2:58:34] could lower the cost of overall housing.

[2:58:35] >>

[2:58:36] okay. And the last question I had

[2:58:37] here was --I appreciated the hypothetical

[2:58:40] you put in

[2:58:43] there with

[2:58:45] respect to amare and wyoming heights. I

[2:58:46] guess the question that came to

[2:58:48] mind is if such a policy was in place

[2:58:49] before the projects were

[2:58:51] [ inaudible -low volume ] I don't

[2:58:52] know what

[2:58:58] the right

[2:59:00] word is, permitted.

[2:59:01] >> entitled. >>

[2:59:02] entitled. Excuse me. Do you think

[2:59:03] the developers

[2:59:04] would've moved forward in the way

[2:59:05] that they did?

[2:59:06] >> you know, I'm not

[2:59:07] really sure. But like I --that's why

[2:59:08] I

[2:59:10] kind of mentioned before, that generally

[2:59:11] speaking,

[2:59:13] cities with inclusionary

[2:59:16] housing have seen slightly

[2:59:19] decreased overall

[2:59:24] housing production, but in turn, have

[2:59:25] seen higher affordable so I

[2:59:27] don't want to speak for any of those

[2:59:28] other developers, but,

[2:59:31] you know, affordable housing is

[2:59:33] not cheap. It's very expensive, which

[2:59:34] is why it's really important that

[2:59:37] we included the certain incentives

[2:59:38] like our community

[2:59:39] benefits program, like allowing them

[2:59:47] to utilize

[2:59:54] state density bonus. Those things are

[2:59:55] -- result in significant cost savings

[2:59:57] and help offset the price of affordable housing.

[2:59:58] >>

[2:59:59] I appreciate you bringing that up

[3:00:00] because sometimes, we

[3:00:01] have to remind folks, we are not in

[3:00:02] the business

[3:00:05] of building housing. We don't build

[3:00:07] houses, but we do help create the

[3:00:08] conditions hopefully that

[3:00:09] fosters housing, so I just want to

[3:00:10] make sure as we are going through

[3:00:11] this

[3:00:12] policy and related items, that we

[3:00:13] are hopefully making it easier and

[3:00:14] more attractive

[3:00:17] for folks to be able to help us

[3:00:20] move this needle on bringing

[3:00:21] more affordable workforce housing

[3:00:23] to our community, which

[3:00:26] it

[3:00:28] sounds like based on what I'm hearing

[3:00:29] tonight, it will.

[3:00:30] >>

[3:00:31] I'm going to give additional context

[3:00:32] and additional

[3:00:33] information with what brandon said.

[3:00:35] as

[3:00:39] he said earlier in his presentation

[3:00:41] using wyoming heights as an example,

[3:00:44] the affordability requirement

[3:00:47] under the

[3:00:49] inclusionary ordinance is 15%, but

[3:00:50] with each

[3:00:51] of the overlays, is adopted, it's

[3:00:52] actually 20%, so this is not actually

[3:00:53] impeding

[3:00:54] them anymore than the incentives that

[3:00:56] they actually

[3:00:59] already have, so where we

[3:01:00] had envisioned from her housing element

[3:01:02] that we are going to see housing growth

[3:01:05] -- these regulations won't

[3:01:08] impact them. Amare is a

[3:01:14] different

[3:01:17] story. It's

[3:01:18] an abnormality. It's not a typical

[3:01:19] project we are going to have. I don't

[3:01:20] foresee a

[3:01:21] project like that in the foreseeable

[3:01:22] future. Housing element does not envision

[3:01:23] a project

[3:01:26] of that skill for the

[3:01:29] foreseeable future.

[3:01:31] I wouldn't recommend making a decision

[3:01:32] based on that and we

[3:01:33] have included a carveouts of that because that

[3:01:35] project is already entitled, these

[3:01:36] regulations

[3:01:37] won't impact that project.

[3:01:38] >> I do

[3:01:39] also want to add one more thing. [

[3:01:40] inaudible ] I have an extra slide

[3:01:41] for

[3:01:46] it. In contra costa county, we are

[3:01:47] only one

[3:01:49] of four or five --I don't recall --

[3:01:50] cities that do not have

[3:01:54] an inclusionary housing ordinance

[3:01:55] and of those four or five cities, only

[3:01:56] two that

[3:01:57] we are aware of are not actually planning

[3:01:59] on doing one, so, almost every single

[3:02:02] city in contra costa county will have

[3:02:04] an inclusionary ordinance.

[3:02:05] >> so,

[3:02:06] in the text

[3:02:11] of the staff report, it says it

[3:02:14] is less

[3:02:17] than 15%.

[3:02:20] would be allowed but

[3:02:21] it requires a feasibility study. Can

[3:02:23] you just restate that or speak to

[3:02:24] it one

[3:02:25] more time?

[3:02:26] >> yeah. So, one of the

[3:02:27] caveats for adopting this is

[3:02:32] that the toc policy has

[3:02:33] a minimum requirement for affordability

[3:02:35] which is

[3:02:38] 15%. They do allow

[3:02:39] us to reduce it or developers to reduce

[3:02:40] it if they can provide substantial

[3:02:46] proof that that would result in infeasibility

[3:02:47] of

[3:02:50] their project. So.

[3:02:51] >> all right. Then

[3:02:53] the

[3:02:55] other question --

[3:02:56] >> from our perspective,

[3:02:57] I was

[3:02:59] going through, what our options were,

[3:03:00] and this

[3:03:01] happened a couple of times with some

[3:03:02] of

[3:03:08] the items

[3:03:10] you brought to us where we start with 30%

[3:03:11] but we end up

[3:03:13] at 50 or whatever but in this particular

[3:03:14] case, 15 is the lowest we

[3:03:17] can go. We don't have any

[3:03:22] flexibility there'd , tonight, at

[3:03:23] least.

[3:03:24] >> so we can

[3:03:25] start at 15%, and if the city conducts

[3:03:26] a feasibility study, we can potentially

[3:03:29] lower it. That would have to be

[3:03:32] reviewed by mtc following but in terms of

[3:03:33] timelines

[3:03:34] for getting the discretionary funding

[3:03:35] ball rolling

[3:03:41] from

[3:03:58] mtc, it's important that we adopt

[3:03:59] an ordinance today and then if

[3:04:01] we need to amend it after we do a

[3:04:02] study, we can do so.

[3:04:03] >>

[3:04:04] on the slide before we had all the

[3:04:05] other cities, there were a couple

[3:04:06] that

[3:04:07] said 5% or something. They would've

[3:04:08] done a feasibility study?

[3:04:09] >> some

[3:04:10] of them

[3:04:11] may have. We weren't able to get into

[3:04:12] that level of research but we are

[3:04:13] also aware that a lot of the cities, knowing

[3:04:14] that they are also going

[3:04:16] to comply with toc policy are probably going

[3:04:17] to have to update their percentages

[3:04:19] as well.

[3:04:20] >> okay. The other thing

[3:04:21] that's in the staff report --

[3:04:22] the weight it was worded in my notes

[3:04:23] are bad but something like it needs

[3:04:25] to average out to 80% ami for those

[3:04:26] 15%. Why did we write it

[3:04:28] that way? Is there another state law

[3:04:29] that requires it?

[3:04:30] >> it is toc policy

[3:04:31] requirement.

[3:04:32] >> toc policy --because

[3:04:33] from

[3:04:38] my perspective,

[3:04:41] I think that I would like to remove

[3:04:43] the requirement for what percentage of

[3:04:44] ami and I would love to

[3:04:45] leave that up to the developer because

[3:04:47] from --it was my understanding that there

[3:04:53] is often

[3:04:55] like grant funding. There's other funding

[3:04:56] sources for low and very

[3:04:58] low, but maybe not for the higher,

[3:04:59] and so if you're a developer that

[3:05:01] has access to that funding, you would want

[3:05:02] to do possibly one way and

[3:05:07] then other developers may want to

[3:05:08] have all of their

[3:05:10] units be moderate and I would rather

[3:05:11] us not dictate that.

[3:05:12] >> again,

[3:05:14] it is a requirement

[3:05:17] in the

[3:05:48] toc policy, but in

[3:05:49] a way, it does provide flexibility

[3:05:50] kind of like in the example that I

[3:05:51] pulled

[3:05:52] up here. They are required to provide

[3:05:53] 28 units but the distribution can

[3:05:54] be up

[3:05:55] to them, so they could say, well,

[3:05:57] we are going to do one acutely

[3:05:58] low at 15% and then do the rest that

[3:06:00] moderate.

[3:06:01] >> so it averages out.

[3:06:02] >> so it averages up. The example

[3:06:03] I provided here is supposed to be

[3:06:04] like an even balance mix.

[3:06:05] >> that one

[3:06:06] doesn't qualify theoretically the

[3:06:07] way you did

[3:06:08] it. Would that be approved?

[3:06:09] >> well,

[3:06:10] the average --it is supposed to be

[3:06:11] less than 80%.

[3:06:12] >> oh, I see. Sorry.

[3:06:13] >> honestly, the way that

[3:06:14] we are hearing from developers is

[3:06:15] a lot of them don't even want to do

[3:06:16] moderate because it is too hard to

[3:06:17] find buyers and renters because the

[3:06:18] people

[3:06:19] in that income category, a lot of

[3:06:20] them don't realize they are eligible

[3:06:21] because

[3:06:22] $180,000, you wouldn't think you would

[3:06:23] be eligible for affordable housing

[3:06:24] but to a lot

[3:06:25] of people in that income category

[3:06:26] have so much upward mobility that

[3:06:27] they could see

[3:06:28] themselves out of affordable housing,

[3:06:29] so. They're not really trying to do

[3:06:30] a lot of

[3:06:31] moderate housing from what we've heard.

[3:06:32] >> so for now, staff recommendation

[3:06:33] is to

[3:06:34] be consistent with the way the toc

[3:06:36] policy is written

[3:06:38] and if we find any acute problems,

[3:06:39] we

[3:06:40] can circle back with a feasibility

[3:06:42] study or something.

[3:06:43] >> yes.

[3:06:48] >> okay.

[3:06:51] >>

[3:06:52] I was going to say very quickly, sorry,

[3:06:54] that the framing that you did, brandon,

[3:06:57] at the outset in

[3:06:59] terms of affordable, that was spot

[3:07:00] on.

[3:07:01] I've had similar conversations with folks in the

[3:07:02] community. They are shocked when I

[3:07:03] tell

[3:07:09] them that.

[3:07:11] people have such a negative connotation

[3:07:12] in terms of what

[3:07:13] affordable is. They are thinking the

[3:07:15] lowest of the low, and that is not

[3:07:16] theirs

[3:07:18] that is simply not true.

[3:07:19] I mean, the statistics that you shared

[3:07:21] bear that out and I think it's something

[3:07:22] that we collectively need to be mindful

[3:07:24] of as in our negations with

[3:07:30] community members, as affordable is

[3:07:31] not,

[3:07:33] you know, what you think it is.

[3:07:35] you know. And getting more and more

[3:07:36] challenging if

[3:07:37] anything. Even for folks, like you

[3:07:45] said --

[3:07:57] and other

[3:07:58] parts of the country, sure. Six figures.

[3:07:59] the six figures. He would be pretty comfortable.

[3:08:00] that is not

[3:08:01] the case here, and I think that's

[3:08:03] really important for us, so what I

[3:08:04] really

[3:08:05] like about this, you know, and I appreciate

[3:08:06] the earlier conversation, is providing

[3:08:07] that

[3:08:08] flexibility. Not making it so rigid

[3:08:09] that it's going to

[3:08:10] unnecessarily drive up the cost because

[3:08:12] our goal --certainly michael --has

[3:08:13] been,

[3:08:14] had we make this a more attractive

[3:08:15] place for developers to come and say,

[3:08:16] hey,

[3:08:17] we want to invest in your community.

[3:08:18] we want to help those folks that

[3:08:21] are, you know, that are

[3:08:23] fit that affordable [ inaudible ]

[3:08:30] the affordability

[3:08:45] equation you laid out.

[3:08:46] we need to create those options. Because

[3:08:47] right now, we historically have not met

[3:08:48] that challenge, so we have a

[3:08:50] lot of work to do, but I appreciate

[3:08:51] you bringing this forward to us

[3:08:52] tonight, so, hopefully --I would love

[3:08:54] to get a report out within a year

[3:08:56] to see where we stand.

[3:08:57] >> just to

[3:08:58] opine on that, we do the

[3:08:59] annual progress report every year

[3:09:00] which is

[3:09:03] required by hcd which

[3:09:04] we update with unit counts including

[3:09:05] any affordable units and we present

[3:09:06] it to the

[3:09:07] city council it's a year. That comes

[3:09:09] around in april or march. Yeah.

[3:09:10] >>

[3:09:11] okay.

[3:09:12] I'm going to open this

[3:09:15] up to

[3:09:16] public comment because we have not

[3:09:18] done that yet. Tom, would you like

[3:09:19] to make

[3:09:20] any comments this evening? We got a

[3:09:21] note thank you headshake. Anyone in

[3:09:22] the

[3:09:23] virtual audience like to provide comment

[3:09:24] on this item?

[3:09:25] >> please use the

[3:09:27] virtual

[3:09:30] hand feature. I have

[3:09:31] no hands.

[3:09:32] >> audit. With the council

[3:09:33] like to make any final comments or

[3:09:34] make

[3:09:36] a motion?

[3:09:37] >> so

[3:09:39] how do we

[3:09:42] freeze this

[3:09:48] without reading all

[3:09:50] of this?

[3:09:51] >> you can say move the staff

[3:09:52] recommendation.

[3:09:53] >> yeah. >> I'd like

[3:09:54] to

[3:09:55] move the staff recommendation.

[3:09:56] >>

[3:09:57] second.

[3:09:58] >> all in favor, please say

[3:10:00] aye.

[3:10:05] >> aye. >> wonderful. Thank you so

[3:10:06] much.

[3:10:07] >> normally

[3:10:08] I would pause and say it is 10:20

[3:10:09] and we want to continue but we

[3:10:11] are at the end of the agenda and it's just going

[3:10:12] to

[3:10:13] be comments and things. I would like

[3:10:14] to recommend that we keep going. Is

[3:10:15] available with that?

[3:10:18] all right. Chief of

[3:10:21] police comments.

[3:10:29] >> thank you, mayor. We did unfortunately

[3:10:30] on tuesday evening had a

[3:10:31] physical altercation which reported

[3:10:33] --resulted in a death. That case is

[3:10:34] being investigated as

[3:10:35] a homicide and there was an arrest

[3:10:36] made and we

[3:10:39] send out a press release regarding

[3:10:40] that and our hearts

[3:10:41] go out to the folks invited by the

[3:10:42] situation including the victim that

[3:10:43] lost

[3:10:45] her life. That

[3:10:48] concludes my report.

[3:10:49] >> thank you. Can I

[3:10:50] ask a follow-up on

[3:10:51] this? There were several comments

[3:10:54] on rants and raves and

[3:11:00] social media

[3:11:02] about this with half information.

[3:11:03] where does the police

[3:11:04] department post their press releases so we

[3:11:06] can just simply respond and direct

[3:11:07] people

[3:11:09] to that?

[3:11:10] >> so we send them out to

[3:11:11] the media

[3:11:12] outlets, but I can look at putting

[3:11:13] it somewhere so you

[3:11:19] can respond

[3:11:40] back with that.

[3:11:41] >> said if someone is not already

[3:11:42] on the police department's mailing

[3:11:43] list, they wouldn't

[3:11:44] necessarily get that press release.

[3:11:45] >> correct but they also usually get

[3:11:46] put out on

[3:11:47] social but I don't know this one has

[3:11:49] gone out in that direction. I

[3:11:50] don't believe that it has.

[3:11:51] >> okay.

[3:11:52] I'll follow up with you and it may

[3:11:53] --I think it may have gotten to the

[3:11:55] news already.

[3:11:56] >>

[3:11:57] it did. We did it on camera while you

[3:11:58] were in closed session.

[3:11:59] >>

[3:12:00] thank you.

[3:12:01] >> all right. City manager

[3:12:02] update.

[3:12:03] >> all right. We are going

[3:12:04] to start with an update from yves

[3:12:05] on the 2025 holidays. Community events

[3:12:08] and programs.

[3:12:09] >> good evening, council. We

[3:12:10] have a lot of holiday events coming

[3:12:11] up.

[3:12:12] I'll try to keep this quick and brief

[3:12:13] but there is a lot of

[3:12:14] exciting things to share, so starting

[3:12:15] off actually this friday, and the

[3:12:16] downtown from 5:00

[3:12:17] to 9:00 p.m., we have pink friday,

[3:12:19] and this event has a

[3:12:20] lot going on. It has the other evening

[3:12:21] holiday market, sip and shop candycane

[3:12:22] lane, live

[3:12:23] entertainment, toys for tots toy drive

[3:12:25] and the christmas tree lighting also

[3:12:26] and very excited to have the council

[3:12:34] at the

[3:12:35] christmas tree lighting. That will be

[3:12:37] at 7:30 p.m. So looking forward

[3:12:38] to celebrating the start of the festive

[3:12:40] season downtown

[3:12:43] on friday. Then on

[3:12:44] saturday, november 22nd from 9:00

[3:12:45] a.m. To 3:00 p.m., we have the harvest

[3:12:46] craft fair at

[3:12:49] the

[3:12:52] senior center. And you get free

[3:12:53] hot chocolate, and it's a free public

[3:12:55] event where you get to get

[3:12:56] the jump on your holiday shopping

[3:12:58] from

[3:13:01] local artisans. Great crafts, and

[3:13:02] it really is a very big event for

[3:13:04] the senior center so we hope to

[3:13:06] see everyone there, also. Santa house

[3:13:08] hours are going to start after thanksgiving,

[3:13:10] november

[3:13:14] 29th. Downtown martinez will be posting

[3:13:15] information on their website soon

[3:13:16] for the

[3:13:17] actual schedule of days and hours

[3:13:19] were you can go visit santa downtown so

[3:13:20] that's always an exciting part for

[3:13:22] the community. Friday,

[3:13:25] december 5th is the parade

[3:13:30] of lights. The annual holiday parade downtown. That

[3:13:31] will be at

[3:13:34] 7:00 p.m. We

[3:13:35] do have a new parade route this year

[3:13:37] that we are going to be trailing where

[3:13:40] we start on ward and go

[3:13:46] down towards

[3:13:48] el hambra. This will be giving the

[3:13:49] community a ton more room to

[3:13:52] get that front seat spectator spot

[3:13:55] to watch the parade

[3:13:58] go by.

[3:14:00] you don't have to tread a crane your

[3:14:01] neck over a

[3:14:03] bunch of people in front of you. You

[3:14:04] can see it up close and

[3:14:05] personal so we are looking forward

[3:14:07] to having the community be able to

[3:14:08] get that

[3:14:10] front road --row and spread out a

[3:14:11] little bit. Not for credit but still

[3:14:13] be in the downtown area to enjoy it.

[3:14:14] there's

[3:14:16] also a I spy

[3:14:22] a ranger team this year. We will show

[3:14:23] that on social media all the different

[3:14:25] ways to participate in that scavenger

[3:14:28] hunt. And then, also,

[3:14:31] let's see.

[3:14:32] on december 12 at 6:00 p.m. There

[3:14:34] is a committee organized event

[3:14:37] for the martinez

[3:14:38] lighted boat parade and this will

[3:14:40] be the first year hopefully of this

[3:14:41] new annual

[3:14:42] tradition, and, we invite everyone

[3:14:45] to go down to the martinez fishing

[3:14:46] pier and watch the

[3:14:47] parade of festively decorated boats

[3:14:55] go by.

[3:14:58] so, those were all of the main

[3:14:59] holiday events that are currently

[3:15:00] scheduled. There may be more to come,

[3:15:01] and we look forward to sharing

[3:15:04] this with you at

[3:15:06] that time.

[3:15:07] >> yves, can you repeat

[3:15:08] the date

[3:15:09] of the senior center craft fair?

[3:15:10] >>

[3:15:11] that is november 22nd. It is actually

[3:15:13] this saturday.

[3:15:14] >> and

[3:15:15] are the council assumed to be in the

[3:15:16] parade

[3:15:19] of lights? Do we already have a spot?

[3:15:24] >> yes. You have to have a spot with all

[3:15:25] the bells and whistles.

[3:15:27] >> perfect. >> I'll be calling all

[3:15:28] of you

[3:15:34] for that.

[3:15:39] >> when is that? What's the date on

[3:15:40] that?

[3:15:41] >> december 5th on the first

[3:15:43] friday

[3:15:46] of december.

[3:16:03] >> and to clarify, we are doing the

[3:16:04] tree lighting this friday.

[3:16:05] >>

[3:16:06] yes. The tree lighting is this friday,

[3:16:07] november 21st.

[3:16:08] >> before thanksgiving.

[3:16:09] >> before

[3:16:10] thanksgiving because we really love

[3:16:11] holidays and it will be at 7:30 p.m.

[3:16:12] the

[3:16:13] actual pink event friday is going

[3:16:14] to be from 5:00 p.m. To 9:00 p.m.

[3:16:15] >>

[3:16:16] okay. All right.

[3:16:18] say nothing. You should let folks

[3:16:19] cut the turkey before you

[3:16:21] light the tree but that's just me.

[3:16:22] but hey, costco thought it was christmas

[3:16:23] in august

[3:16:24] so what do I know.

[3:16:25] >> so, jay, since

[3:16:26] you are the vice mayor and

[3:16:27] I booked my flights for thanksgiving

[3:16:28] before I knew the tree lighting was

[3:16:29] on the

[3:16:30] 21st, you are officially in charge

[3:16:31] on

[3:16:33] friday. Great.

[3:16:34] >> those are all the

[3:16:35] holiday

[3:16:40] events.

[3:16:41] >>

[3:16:43] excellent. Thank you so much.

[3:16:44] >>

[3:16:45] so, a couple more things. Jill has

[3:16:46] an update on the holiday guide that

[3:16:47] she

[3:16:48] wants to share with everyone.

[3:16:49] >> [

[3:16:50] inaudible ] I wanted to add,

[3:16:52] as well, that

[3:16:55] the downtown

[3:16:57] martinez in partnership with the city

[3:16:58] is creating the first ever holiday

[3:17:00] gift guide. 16 pages, and it will be

[3:17:02] inserted

[3:17:08] into your

[3:17:10] town monthly, which they have presence

[3:17:11] and a lot of our surrounding jurisdictions

[3:17:13] but not in martinez so they are new to

[3:17:15] the martinez for this. It will reach

[3:17:16] over 10,000 households as well as

[3:17:17] we will have

[3:17:19] standalone guides that will be pulled

[3:17:20] out

[3:17:21] and shared at the tree lighting event,

[3:17:22] as well as the participating businesses

[3:17:23] will have

[3:17:24] copies. We'll also have qr codes in

[3:17:25] different posters around at the stores

[3:17:27] that people can scan and then view

[3:17:29] the guide with

[3:17:31] all the [ inaudible ] layers --shop

[3:17:32] local

[3:17:38] --

[3:17:47] 's all with the intent

[3:17:48] to get to the shop local this holiday season.

[3:17:50] [ inaudible ]

[3:17:51] >> great. Thank

[3:17:52] you.

[3:17:53] >> yes. The last thing I want

[3:17:54] to mention is we did have

[3:17:55] a fantastic ribbon-cutting reopening

[3:17:56] of fishing pier back on november

[3:17:59] 8th. In the mist, in the

[3:18:00] fog that was rolling in that morning

[3:18:01] with 100+ of our closest friends.

[3:18:02] it was

[3:18:04] fantastic. One thing that wasn't ready for the

[3:18:05] grand opening but is about

[3:18:08] to be installed at

[3:18:11] the peer

[3:18:13] are the fishing pole holders. Joe

[3:18:14] just got 12 of them

[3:18:15] in. Public works is going to be installing

[3:18:17] them. They might even be ready by

[3:18:18] the weekend. That was one thing that

[3:18:20] we hadn't quite gotten to.

[3:18:21] >> and

[3:18:22] they want to be pvc pipes screwed

[3:18:23] into the

[3:18:29] railing. Right?

[3:18:32] great.

[3:18:33] >> that's all I had. >>

[3:18:34] okay. Next one is subcommittee and

[3:18:35] outside agency reports. You are welcome

[3:18:36] to keep

[3:18:37] it brief. I think many of the things

[3:18:38] that we've talked about tonight were

[3:18:41] covered already. Is there anything

[3:18:42] else

[3:18:43] from subcommittee that you would like

[3:18:44] to report out on? Economic developers

[3:18:45] or budget

[3:18:46] and finance?

[3:18:47] >> yes, mayor. Just very

[3:18:48] quickly, council member mckillop and

[3:18:49] I sit on

[3:18:50] the economic development

[3:18:53] subcommittee. We had a robust discussion

[3:18:56] with kaiser permanente and

[3:18:59] the county

[3:19:04] hospital who provided of reviews of their

[3:19:05] operations here in martinez and a

[3:19:06] discussion

[3:19:07] about the impacts of some of the rim

[3:19:08] healthcare cuts as a result

[3:19:11] of recent federal actions that

[3:19:14] were undertaken.

[3:19:16] one thing which was news to me was

[3:19:17] that in

[3:19:18] spite of that, the county hospital

[3:19:20] is actually looking at a very ambitious

[3:19:21] expansion, so they are going to be

[3:19:23] doing a lot of construction

[3:19:26] it sounds like in the very

[3:19:29] near future.

[3:20:00] which will no doubt bring a lot of construction workers

[3:20:02] into martinez, but also, there will

[3:20:03] be some

[3:20:04] associated headaches, perhaps with

[3:20:05] that. We want to make sure we mitigate

[3:20:06] that to

[3:20:07] the extent possible, and so, I think

[3:20:08] we got a commitment from them. They

[3:20:09] have

[3:20:10] a plan in place to do that. The v-8

[3:20:11] was not able to participate because

[3:20:12] of the federal government shutdown

[3:20:14] which is still going on but we hope

[3:20:15] to

[3:20:16] bring them back, but would love to

[3:20:17] be able to schedule tours of all

[3:20:18] of those facilities at some point

[3:20:20] next year, as well, so. But that was

[3:20:21] it. Debbie, did I miss anything?

[3:20:22] >>

[3:20:23] I think you mentioned all the things

[3:20:24] we discussed.

[3:20:25] coincidentally, this morning, I got

[3:20:26] to meet with david culberson, the

[3:20:27] ceo of the

[3:20:28] hospital, and we got to see where

[3:20:29] the new building is going to be built

[3:20:31] in the future. I was there on another

[3:20:32] unrelated matter but got

[3:20:33] to visit the hospital, and they will

[3:20:35] be a lot of change and I'm looking

[3:20:37] forward to that, as well.

[3:20:38] >> the one

[3:20:39] thing I think was really a

[3:20:41] big take

[3:20:44] away was, we

[3:20:46] are a city of 36,000 but we have these

[3:20:47] three medical centers and they

[3:20:49] are a huge linchpin for our community. There's

[3:20:50] a lot of martinez residence and played

[3:20:52] at those centers but then when you

[3:20:53] think about

[3:20:55] the economic impact that these facilities

[3:20:56] have, it was a

[3:20:58] really good, it was one of the better

[3:20:59] subcommittees I have to say that

[3:21:00] --meetings that I've had the opportunity

[3:21:02] to participate in. Anyway, that was

[3:21:08] it.

[3:21:09] >>

[3:21:14] one of the

[3:21:15] additional challenges they talked about

[3:21:17] was parking and so hopefully we can find

[3:21:18] ways in which

[3:21:19] we can help support some of their

[3:21:20] parking needs especially during construction

[3:21:21] phases in

[3:21:22] early next year or by 2026.

[3:21:23] >> are

[3:21:24] you about kaiser? Or the county?

[3:21:25] >>

[3:21:26] the county.

[3:21:27] >> mike, would you like

[3:21:28] to speak to the parking coronation

[3:21:29] that

[3:21:30] you are doing with the county?

[3:21:31] >>

[3:21:32] you

[3:21:33] can.

[3:21:34] >> the county has approached

[3:21:35] the city asking to be able to use

[3:21:36] part

[3:21:37] of the marina temporarily for a few

[3:21:38] years.

[3:21:39] we also wanted to coordinator with

[3:21:40] state

[3:21:41] lands to see if that was acceptable

[3:21:42] and they believe they can make an

[3:21:43] exception

[3:21:44] for that type of

[3:21:46] use for a temporary basis. We've been

[3:21:47] working with

[3:21:53] the county

[3:22:02] they

[3:22:04] need to go forward to the board of supervisors

[3:22:05] to get approval before we

[3:22:07] were able to bring it back to the

[3:22:08] council for discussion, and they did

[3:22:09] that yesterday,

[3:22:10] so they got approval yesterday so

[3:22:11] the goal would be to try to bring

[3:22:12] something

[3:22:13] before the council before the end

[3:22:14] of the year because they actually

[3:22:15] need the

[3:22:16] temporary parking as soon as possible.

[3:22:17] and then we figured, the two years,

[3:22:18] we would

[3:22:19] have a discussion based on where we

[3:22:20] are the conversation to see if we

[3:22:21] get

[3:22:22] accepted for another year.

[3:22:23] >> with

[3:22:24] that generate revenue?

[3:22:25] >> it would

[3:22:26] actually, yes.

[3:22:27] he would generate revenue. Part of

[3:22:28] the agreement would

[3:22:31] be -- [ inaudible ] that went on out

[3:22:32] there as well as some restriping that

[3:22:33] will

[3:22:34] happen. It's part of the agreement

[3:22:35] that the county will be reimbursing

[3:22:36] us

[3:22:37] for that cost as well as doing $12,000 a

[3:22:38] year for license agreement.

[3:22:42] >> and this is coming back

[3:22:43] to us at a future date, so you have to

[3:22:45] go into

[3:22:50] much detail.

[3:22:51] >> thanks. >> the other subcommittee

[3:22:52] report out

[3:22:53] is for budget and finance subcommittee. You

[3:22:54] guys

[3:22:59] met two days ago. As testing boy scouts

[3:23:00] --'s but you came

[3:23:01] in and disrupted our meeting. I wanted

[3:23:03] to note that

[3:23:09] for our

[3:23:12] . We were heavily in a

[3:23:13] budget and finance subcommittee.

[3:23:14] >>

[3:23:15] and they were respectful. They were

[3:23:16] quiet and

[3:23:17] they made squeaky noises with their

[3:23:18] shoes.

[3:23:19] >> they did squeak. A lot of

[3:23:20] squeaking. [

[3:23:21] inaudible -overlapping speakers ] 's

[3:23:22] but just the two items that we heard

[3:23:23] in regards to the purchasing policy,

[3:23:24] because we are working on a revised

[3:23:25] purchasing

[3:23:26] policy for the city, and the other

[3:23:27] was reviewing the citywide payment

[3:23:33] processing system.

[3:23:57] there

[3:23:58] are some vendors we need to select

[3:23:59] from so we've narrowed down the field

[3:24:00] and that

[3:24:02] will come back to us, but it was awfully cute

[3:24:03] to see all the boy

[3:24:04] scouts come in. The council chambers

[3:24:05] were empty. I don't think there was

[3:24:06] like

[3:24:07] one person there. And all of a sudden,

[3:24:09] it was filled with all of these

[3:24:10] children, and they sat quietly for,

[3:24:11] you know, a good 10 minutes, taking

[3:24:12] it

[3:24:14] all in. And then they just left, and

[3:24:15] went on their way, so it is

[3:24:16] really nice to see them. It was kind

[3:24:18] of cute.

[3:24:19] >> we did debrief and

[3:24:20] I asked them for any feedback of what they had heard

[3:24:21] and learned.

[3:24:22] >>

[3:24:23] and what did they say?

[3:24:24] >> I can't

[3:24:25] even remember but they all earned

[3:24:26] their

[3:24:27] badges for community involvement that

[3:24:28] night.

[3:24:29] >> they were riveted. >> they

[3:24:30] did report

[3:24:31] words

[3:24:33] I know

[3:24:35] you had been saying so I knew they were

[3:24:36] listening.

[3:24:37] >> is

[3:24:38] for us at that agency report outs,

[3:24:39] I wanted to give a quick note that

[3:24:40] we

[3:24:41] had our quarterly meeting with the

[3:24:42] county representatives. A report out on

[3:24:43] this periodically.

[3:24:44] we have a standing meeting with the

[3:24:45] folks from the jail, from housing

[3:24:46] and

[3:24:48] homelessness services with

[3:24:50] a 3 with the hospital and david culberson's

[3:24:51] on that call because he represents

[3:24:52] the hospital. The biggest concerns of course

[3:24:54] are releasing people from the jail,

[3:24:55] releasing people

[3:24:56] from psychiatric emergency services

[3:24:57] and everyone

[3:25:03] kind of being

[3:25:04] in martinez and not necessarily having

[3:25:05] transportation or taking advantage

[3:25:06] of transportation and leaving, so,

[3:25:08] that was the driver for starting that meeting

[3:25:09] this past meeting that we

[3:25:10] had really was talking a lot about

[3:25:11] mental health issues, and we were

[3:25:12] able to

[3:25:13] provide after that meeting some stats

[3:25:15] for --from martinez on some of the

[3:25:16] issues

[3:25:18] that we have been

[3:25:21] having with

[3:25:24] mental health

[3:25:25] calls and not getting the support

[3:25:27] that we need from the county, so that

[3:25:28] was that

[3:25:29] meeting that we had. Any other outside

[3:25:30] agency meetings that we attended?

[3:25:31] >> yeah. Celeste

[3:25:32] thursday, november 13th, attended

[3:25:33] our trans pack

[3:25:35] committee meeting. One of the big

[3:25:39] items

[3:25:42] is measured j21a

[3:25:47] fund safe transportation for children

[3:25:48] which includes funding

[3:25:51] to improve

[3:25:52] transportation access and safety for

[3:25:54] students in our sub impact region.

[3:25:55] so, we approved funds in

[3:25:57] the amount

[3:26:00] of 41,000 two

[3:26:03] participate

[3:26:06] in a two-month

[3:26:08] summer program. It would be june and

[3:26:09] july of 2026 for

[3:26:12] youth ages

[3:26:14] 6 to 18 can ride buses free without

[3:26:15] passes.

[3:26:18] and then, on the heels of that will

[3:26:21] be the existing past the class school

[3:26:27] your program

[3:26:33] which is august

[3:26:34] to september next year, providing

[3:26:35] free passes to enrolled students.

[3:26:36] so we

[3:26:38] will be contributing $41,000 so students can

[3:26:39] ride free in june and july. We

[3:26:40] also asked staff because it seems

[3:26:44] a bit cumbersome, but we have asked

[3:26:45] staff to

[3:26:48] see about if we

[3:26:51] could extend that free time

[3:26:57] without enrollment

[3:26:59] because with children being able to write

[3:27:00] for free for june and july, they

[3:27:03] just get on a bus. They

[3:27:05] don't have to enroll. And some of

[3:27:06] the information we got back is that

[3:27:07] the

[3:27:08] parents really appreciate it because

[3:27:09] it kept them out

[3:27:11] of cars. Kept gas bills down. So we

[3:27:12] want to just

[3:27:15] see about --because in

[3:27:20] our measured j21a fund, we've got 4.2 million

[3:27:21] available, so we can easily

[3:27:24] for four months

[3:27:26] have folks write for free, so that

[3:27:27] came out of

[3:27:32] our meeting.

[3:27:33] >> anybody? >> just very quickly, I

[3:27:34] did have

[3:27:36] an opportunity to attend the unveiling

[3:27:37] of the

[3:27:39] latest fairy was introduced

[3:27:42] by our ferry operator, so I would like

[3:27:48] to think jim wonderment and the staff for

[3:27:49] their hospitality.

[3:27:51] they recognize the

[3:27:52] city of martinez at the event so I

[3:27:54] appreciated

[3:27:57] that.

[3:27:59] and, yeah. It was really nice to be able

[3:28:00] to connect with other local

[3:28:03] elected's and see and learn more about

[3:28:04] the

[3:28:09] upcoming technologies

[3:28:12] they helped unveil, so that's it.

[3:28:13] >>

[3:28:14] right. The only thing that's left

[3:28:15] is city council comments. Debbie,

[3:28:16] do you want

[3:28:18] to start?

[3:28:19] >> I just wanted to call

[3:28:21] out that tonight in

[3:28:24] our

[3:28:26] consent calendar, we approved the free

[3:28:27] parking in the

[3:28:32] downtown area. I don't think I was like

[3:28:33] touched on. I don't

[3:28:34] know if we actually said anything

[3:28:36] about that, but that goes into effect

[3:28:40] november 27th through january

[3:28:43] 5th, so,

[3:28:47] unfortunately, it's just after the

[3:28:49] 21st, when we are going

[3:28:50] to do the tree lighting, so the tree

[3:28:51] lighting is before the free parking,

[3:28:52] but,

[3:28:54] I don't know. Maybe we should meet

[3:28:55] at the november 21st.

[3:28:56] anyway, so just want to let people

[3:28:58] know they can go down there and

[3:28:59] park for free and that could hopefully

[3:29:01] encourage them

[3:29:07] -- shopping

[3:29:09] experiences down there. Looking forward to that.

[3:29:11] I'll be at the tree lighting with

[3:29:13] some of my colleagues and I know it's

[3:29:14] a little bit earlier than normal,

[3:29:15] but we are starting the holiday season

[3:29:17] a little early this year. More time

[3:29:18] for shopping. I don't have anything

[3:29:19] else

[3:29:25] to add.

[3:29:29] >> you have anything? >> thank you.

[3:29:30] thank you very much. I too look forward

[3:29:32] to joining everyone at the upcoming

[3:29:33] tree lighting and holiday frolic.

[3:29:34] I want to just call

[3:29:35] out that we have a couple of tree

[3:29:37] plantings that are

[3:29:42] coming up. This saturday at hidden

[3:29:43] valley

[3:29:44] park, november 22nd. 9:00 a.m. In

[3:29:46] collaboration I

[3:29:49] believe with the school. Is

[3:29:55] that correct?

[3:29:58] mpg and e. That will be

[3:29:59] taking place and then we go over to

[3:30:01] pine meadow park on

[3:30:04] december 6th, so both

[3:30:07] coincidentally in district 3,

[3:30:10] so.

[3:30:11] >>

[3:30:22] you are always doing something

[3:30:23] in district 3.

[3:30:24] >> getting some trees

[3:30:25] planted. So come one, come on. I'd

[3:30:26] like

[3:30:27] to thank staff for the excellent job

[3:30:28] that was done with the fishing pier

[3:30:29] which

[3:30:30] was talked about earlier, but also

[3:30:31] the veterans day events. It took a

[3:30:32] lot

[3:30:33] of coordination. It has really great

[3:30:34] turnouts for both and I know there's

[3:30:35] a

[3:30:36] lot of work that goes in behind the

[3:30:37] scenes. That doesn't happen by

[3:30:40] accident, so my

[3:30:43] hats off to

[3:30:44] public works, parks and rec, and everyone.

[3:30:46] it was a team effort. So job well

[3:30:47] done,

[3:30:48] team. Thank you very much. Appreciate

[3:30:49] that. I did want to just very quickly

[3:30:50] follow

[3:30:52] up on the earlier item

[3:30:53] regarding caltrans that came up. I

[3:30:54] too have heard similar concerns and

[3:30:55] you know

[3:30:57] think it speaks to a broader issue

[3:30:58] where it's

[3:31:00] not just the lack of timely response

[3:31:02] on the striping and what have you,

[3:31:04] but, that stretch of highway

[3:31:07] 4,

[3:31:09] folks, between hercules in martinez,

[3:31:10] it's a dump, and it is

[3:31:13] frustrating. Every

[3:31:16] time I

[3:31:19] am

[3:31:20] driving by there, that's like the

[3:31:22] gateway to our city. I'm like, why

[3:31:23] aren't

[3:31:24] they picking this up? How often are

[3:31:25] they sending crews? Highway 24 don't

[3:31:26] look like

[3:31:28] that. It's like, can

[3:31:31] we --

[3:31:34] I

[3:31:35] think there's an opportunity here

[3:31:37] to really engage them and if we need

[3:31:38] to engage our state representatives

[3:31:39] in this conversation, but caltrans

[3:31:40] really needs to step up their

[3:31:41] game. I just feel that more could

[3:31:45] be done. We have a real safety issue

[3:31:46] quite frankly but it's

[3:31:48] also we've spent a lot of time on

[3:31:49] beautification of

[3:31:50] our city. What about beautification

[3:31:52] of the entryway into our city?

[3:31:58] highway 4. So maybe this is something

[3:31:59] we could work collaboratively with

[3:32:00] our counterparts in hercules and see

[3:32:01] if maybe we

[3:32:02] can collectively lean on caltrans

[3:32:04] to

[3:32:10] step up.

[3:32:22] the striping and -- that's

[3:32:23] got to be a priority and the fact -- the

[3:32:25] lack of lighting as well is a

[3:32:27] contributing factor, as well, I have to

[3:32:28] say. It's really dark on highway 4

[3:32:29] at certain points, so you combine

[3:32:31] that with the lack of striping and

[3:32:32] it's a

[3:32:33] real safety issue. So we need to get

[3:32:34] that done. Happy to connect off-line

[3:32:35] in

[3:32:36] terms of how best we can advocate

[3:32:37] on that. The last thing I wanted

[3:32:39] to say --I just wanted to extend my

[3:32:40] heartfelt condolences to the family

[3:32:41] of gwen moore, a longtime munro --

[3:32:43] pardon me. Excuse

[3:32:45] me. Munro. A longtime downtown business

[3:32:46] owner. So I

[3:32:52] was just

[3:32:54] very saddened, like many in our community,

[3:32:55] to learn of her

[3:32:57] passing but just wanted to offer my

[3:32:58] heartfelt condolences to her

[3:33:01] mother, donna, and to all who knew

[3:33:02] and

[3:33:04] loved her, so,

[3:33:07] thank you.

[3:33:22] >> so, for my update,

[3:33:24] just so you know, after you made the

[3:33:25] comment about the striping, I sent

[3:33:26] an email to

[3:33:27] caltrans to our contact and I've seen

[3:33:28] a handful of staff, so

[3:33:29] he is the person who would respond

[3:33:31] to us and I think we can take advantage

[3:33:32] of

[3:33:33] that relationship, and request additional

[3:33:34] things, so, that's that update. So,

[3:33:35] for me, today, I

[3:33:36] got a chance to go to --high school

[3:33:37] to their leadership exchange. We

[3:33:39] had kids in the leadership program

[3:33:46] from seventh

[3:33:57] --2nd to 5th grade. There was a lot of

[3:33:58] local folks and

[3:34:00] the kids got to ask us questions and

[3:34:01] I really enjoyed it, so kudos to

[3:34:03] luciana who is a freshman who coordinated

[3:34:04] all of that. There were about 50 kids

[3:34:06] there. We talked about the tree lighting that I'm able

[3:34:08] to join --so I'm

[3:34:09] glad that you all will be covering

[3:34:10] it. A reminder that the downtown cleanup

[3:34:12] is on saturday the 22nd, and that

[3:34:14] is the last cleanup

[3:34:15] of the year, and that is really to help

[3:34:17] kick off the

[3:34:18] holiday season, you know, spruce up

[3:34:20] our

[3:34:21] downtown for shopping. Happy thanks giving to everybody. I

[3:34:22] will be out of town with extended family

[3:34:23] for the thanksgiving week, so

[3:34:24] thanks to everybody who is covering

[3:34:25] all of the events that are happening.

[3:34:26] the

[3:34:32] hospice tree

[3:34:34] fell a couple of weeks ago so I just wanted

[3:34:36] to remind everybody that the ceremony

[3:34:37] will not be held here in martinez

[3:34:38] on

[3:34:39] december 2nd. They are taking all

[3:34:40] the pleasant hill people and all the

[3:34:41] martinez people

[3:34:42] and going to the concord hospice tree.

[3:34:44] I did into the --with the

[3:34:47] director of hospice

[3:34:50] east bay

[3:35:05] a

[3:35:06] couple of days ago to talk about with

[3:35:07] an entry might look like. Other cities

[3:35:08] aren't finding new trees. They're

[3:35:10] finding new trees to make the hospice

[3:35:11] tree out of so

[3:35:12] I wanted to pass that on to all of

[3:35:14] you because she had even

[3:35:15] acknowledged that our hospice treat

[3:35:16] was in a really weird place. The fact

[3:35:17] that it

[3:35:18] was in the middle of the road someone

[3:35:20] we had events, we had to

[3:35:21] close the road down together. So if

[3:35:23] we can find a beautiful old tree, that's

[3:35:24] in a park or something, that would

[3:35:25] be much more conducive to what they

[3:35:26] are

[3:35:27] looking for, and it would be consistent

[3:35:29] with other cities so if anybody has

[3:35:30] any ideas, I was thinking can part

[3:35:31] might be an interesting location.

[3:35:32] golden hills park

[3:35:33] would be great. There are a lot of

[3:35:35] old trees there, too. Let me know

[3:35:37] if you have any ideas and I know that

[3:35:38] mike had been in touch

[3:35:40] with them, as well, but I don't think

[3:35:41] we have made any decisions,

[3:35:42] right? Okay.

[3:35:43] >> the light of the boat

[3:35:44] parade.

[3:35:45] >> there are fires

[3:35:46] around. And that would be --if anyone

[3:35:47] would like

[3:35:50] to participate,,

[3:35:51] that and just enjoy the new fishing

[3:35:53] pier at night. That is half the goal

[3:35:55] and there will be music and refreshments

[3:35:56] and a variety of things. It

[3:35:58] should be a lot of fun. And then, are you

[3:35:59] going to

[3:36:04] bring up the -- I'll talk about it.

[3:36:05] yeah. So last

[3:36:06] week or the last time, remember, I

[3:36:08] sat in on the board

[3:36:12] of supervisors meeting about covering

[3:36:14] snap benefits.

[3:36:17] step benefits have theoretically been

[3:36:18] funded,

[3:36:20] but food insecurity

[3:36:22] is really even more of an issue this

[3:36:23] year than it

[3:36:26] has been in years past. And so,

[3:36:27] I've been speaking with loaves and

[3:36:29] fishes and

[3:36:31] with jay about the potential for city

[3:36:32] council to

[3:36:34] help contribute toward a protein fund

[3:36:35] for

[3:36:41] the holidays. Turkey,

[3:36:42] chicken, ham, tofu, whatever you might want

[3:36:44] to have for the

[3:36:50] holidays. So

[3:36:51] city council actually has a little

[3:36:52] bit of money in our discretionary

[3:36:53] fund that

[3:36:54] has been unspent so I wanted to propose

[3:36:56] this as an option to donate a

[3:36:58] little extra to our contra costa food

[3:36:59] bank on behalf

[3:37:02] of the city.

[3:37:03] >> yes. >> I second

[3:37:04] that motion.

[3:37:05] >> are you comfortable

[3:37:06] with that,

[3:37:10] as well?

[3:37:11] >> is that --is that intended to

[3:37:12] be direction to the

[3:37:17] city --

[3:37:19] >> yes. >> it's because you are directing

[3:37:20] money to be spent --you can

[3:37:23] direct him to bring it back

[3:37:29] --

[3:37:30] >>

[3:37:35] exactly. I wanted to make

[3:37:36] sure everyone was okay with it. I

[3:37:38] would like to direct mike to bring

[3:37:39] back

[3:37:40] to us at a future --thank you for

[3:37:41] clarifying. I was getting fair --

[3:37:43] to come back to us. Ideally, it would

[3:37:44] be 2000 that we can split

[3:37:45] 1002 each organization, so if you

[3:37:46] can double check to make sure that

[3:37:47] the numbers

[3:37:48] are correct from what's left of the

[3:37:50] budget and then if you can bring it

[3:37:52] back at our next agenda, that would

[3:37:53] be great. Thank you.

[3:37:54] >>

[3:37:55] we don't meet again until december

[3:37:56] 10th, so I

[3:37:59] know that

[3:38:00] probably --I'm sure there will still

[3:38:02] be a need through the holiday but

[3:38:04] it's a little ways out.

[3:38:05] >> thank you

[3:38:06] for the reminder on that. We can

[3:38:07] coordinate.

[3:38:08] >> and I intended to close

[3:38:09] the meeting in honor of gwen

[3:38:11] this evening.

[3:38:12] thank you for bringing [ inaudible

[3:38:14] ]

[3:38:15] >> just do something that's been on

[3:38:16] my mind

[3:38:17] --the day job --and

[3:38:19] we are in the holiday season. Adjust

[3:38:20] the number

[3:38:23] of scams and a

[3:38:26] deep fakes. There is so

[3:38:32] much activity going on in this space

[3:38:34] right now, so the message is, for

[3:38:35] friends, for family, elderly, just

[3:38:38] be careful

[3:38:41] online shopping. Providing

[3:38:47] any information,

[3:38:50] because it is a

[3:38:51] huge, huge issue, and on a daily basis,

[3:38:53] we are getting information on folks

[3:38:56] who have been scammed. Through

[3:38:59] a.I. And social media, so

[3:39:05] just those in this season just for

[3:39:06] folks to just be careful. Just

[3:39:07] be careful, and wishing everybody

[3:39:08] a happy, restful,

[3:39:12] prosperous thanksgiving.

[3:39:13] >> the mayor

[3:39:14] pretty

[3:39:15] much covered all of my talking points,

[3:39:17] which

[3:39:23] is great.

[3:39:29] and I can't

[3:39:30] wait for the tree lighting and cleanup

[3:39:32] and I want to wish everybody a happy

[3:39:33] thanksgiving.

[3:39:34] >> great. Excellent. Well, in that

[3:39:35] case, I would like to adjourn this

[3:39:36] meeting in

[3:39:37] memory of glenn and all that she contributed

[3:39:38] to the martinez community in the downtown

[3:39:40] community and all the activities she

[3:39:41] did at

[3:39:44] first friday for children in transit.

[3:39:45] this meeting is

[3:39:47] now adjourned to our regular scheduled

[3:39:48] meeting on december

[3:39:50] 10th.

City Council Regular Session

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