Agenda
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ROLL CALL
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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AGENDA (Add, delete or re-sequence items)
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ACTION ITEMS (Public comments accepted for each item; 5 minute limit)
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Interviews and Ranking of Responses to Request for Proposals for Land Leases for Development of North Quadrant Parcels 1 and 2
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Parcel 1 Respondents
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Parcel 2 Respondents
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CORRESPONDENCE/COMMISSIONER COMMENTS & REQUESTS/MEETINGS
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for our special meaning the top
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of the hour. Thank you.
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Good morning. This is the city
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of Naples airport authority
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Board of commissioners special
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meeting.
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Thursday.
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12/20/2018.
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record. Thank you for your
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interest
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and your participation. Robin
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would you please
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take the role to share Messer
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here it's near brusette act.
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Vice Chairman Here is your
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right now. And commissioner
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Justin has an excuse steps.
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We stand for the pledge of
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allegiance.
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That's likely to lose 2 right
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the United States of America
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and to the whims of his fans.
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One nation.
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It with liberty and justice for
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all.
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Roseanne ski do we have any
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changes to the agenda.
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This morning. No changes per se
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chair, but we did issue a
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correction in the briefing
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paper just to clarify was an
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address to the console
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selection committee but to the
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full board.
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Okay great. Thank you.
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>> All right so this
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morning we are going to be
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doing interviews and rankings
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of responses to requests for
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proposals for land leases for
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the development of the North
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quadrant parcels one 2. And we
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will be starting with parcel
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one responded.
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What we will is first we will
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have the presentation by each
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of the respondents.
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He interviews. Then we'll have
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questions from the
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commissioners and then we will
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rank first parcel one responds
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then parcel to respond.
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So I'd like to First
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Call up the purse of one
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respondents and I will start
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with Marco hangers llc.
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If you
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could begin by stating your
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name.
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Good morning, ladies and gent.
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And don't of Marco hangers.
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I've submitted a proposal to
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to develop a business aviation
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complex. And
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offering $0.55 for square foot.
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But police fate.
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And I'm big ocean on that.
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I currently
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own an affront fbo but Danbury
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Connecticut which offers
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similar as one of the polls in
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here market, I'm sorry in
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Naples.
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Hangar
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space Stein own offices.
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Lobbies course restrooms if a
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site.
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And there's nowhere for over.
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And I would like to take just a
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minute. So you've been where
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come from.
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Was born in use in Europe.
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when I was 13.
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I was their report, but it
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wanted to fly really bad it was
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really like anxious that it was
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really really poor.
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When it came to this country
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and I got this try to get a
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little image, but it can get
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about what's actually jorah
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itself.
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>> I was so course all I wanted
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to fly I could afford it.
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So I see use umbrellas to try
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to fly to get it went to the
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extent of meat taken my shoes
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off us you know shoes. No
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jackets I can actually be
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lighter. I didn't work out well
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always hurt when I fell
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the work I so I give that up,
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but I think about my dream.
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What I wanted to do a. After
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that. A I moved to more violent
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but 2 years ago.
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And if you connect a base that
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more on that. But sometimes I
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find me say that you ran
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from rights air or just 5
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months ago. Tonight we're a one
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Abels airport.
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That I heard
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Naples front of it out there it
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was very exciting to put a
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proposal in and that's how
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folks coming.
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Same time, I'm working with
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directed to all right that will
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do the manufacture. For these
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types of building and used them
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before. There are one
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of the largest in this country.
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What I like about them is that
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they do that building
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and the door versus lot of
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parties don't both.
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At the same time I'm working
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with whole mess team.
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This is a little carrier to
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look because I believe.
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Lou has done everything in here
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in Naples.
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He's familiar with Naples
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the Cubs but a whole long time.
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And his son was on hand years
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of the place.
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So I chose him to be my project
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manager and engineer. I believe
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is the best but his job.
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And now will let you come up
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come up and talk about site
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plan. And how come up in just
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2, 2, more and afterwards.
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If you've got any questions or
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I think that you can dance.
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Good
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morning for a record not look
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Carrie air.
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With whole month as read it
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times based in Fort Myers.
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Proposed development in a
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partial
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one basically we have a a lot
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that's a little bit more about
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1.3 acres about 58,000 square
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feet. We are proposing.
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To put in about
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25,000 spirit of a front that
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is capable of holding aircrafts
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a large corporate
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aircraft, 75,000. The apron
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will access directly onto a tax
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lien rather than on to the
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taxiway which is a bit more
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safer from an operation
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standpoint. A hanger
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building is actually 24,000
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square feet and will be divided
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into 2 sections far wall one
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of the advance of doing that is
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that minimizes the cost for
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fire suppression that's
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something that we will need to
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work out with the a
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city our department
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each show hangar will be about
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12 square feet.
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Along with that will be on the
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back of the
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building will be parking for
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that this note, including the
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required handicapped parking
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and then it'll be an office
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area that
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waiting room and restrooms
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that are all applicable
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consistent
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with your minimum standards.
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A part of the project requires
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us to extend the access road to
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the facility. You go from the.
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We'll be staying access road we
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probably 10 to ornate that with
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the development of parcel to
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since is going to be a joint
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issue along
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with that will be a requirement
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to extend
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water line. Sanitary sewer and
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electricity the building.
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Building This
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is a validation view of it.
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A the maximum height of
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buildings going to be 39 feet
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we've looked at the heart 77 f
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a a surface is to make sure
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that we're not going to violate
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that were well below that.
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The doors are going to have a
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Hi a
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27 feet.
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With about a 100 feet which
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will allow us
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Support some of the
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larger The gulf stream's which
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have close to 2526 foot tell
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Heights.
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The Finnish for elevation we
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it's actually did some
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preliminary design set the rate
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at 7.3 7 which gives us.
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The
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appropriate grade slope
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downwards to a
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connecting to the actually
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which is you know is already in
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place.
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But also to make sure that were
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above the fleet, fema
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elevation. Uh you know we need
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to make sure we need all those
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criteria is. The roof pitch is
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pretty much standard. A our
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office building Heisman be
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about 20 feet. So that that's
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going to be a well below the
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building. A
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this year John that gives you
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an idea
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we're proposing to to bill.
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Now back to turn back to rush
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this.
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So we're going to be offering
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aeronautical service. The
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public people.
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>> All and local standards on
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this project. Well extent the
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road and utility.
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It's going to quality
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construction. Hurricane
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resistant.
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All and in a's and
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minimum standards. For the 30
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year lease of $0.55
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like I mentioned before.
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We are negotiable that.
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Why choose us where local
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company. Experience and owner
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of the running the project.
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With the effective because
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market plan. Another service,
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the public.
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A teen design Lou carrier.
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High quality construction
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material will meet
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and a local standards. Safety
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on an arson and that security
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is a top priority. It will
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increase veteran too.
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>> I noticed on your pro forma
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incomes income statement for 5
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years project that out there's
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no interest costs are you
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financing this personally yet
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so no no bank loans.
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I am I'm finance when
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I probably is but that's
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something wholly separate.
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But for this there's no there's
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no fight there's no debt and
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the uh a.
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We mentioned this might be a
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question for
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You're splitting the building
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into 2 parts to 2 sections as
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but one big high.
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He said near reasoning is for
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fire suppression reasons lower
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costs too because you don't
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need the same was it
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one of the eye enough why do
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they use so far in these
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facilities who I a the net
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son of a building hangers
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control under and get 4 oh 9
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which took a entered specific
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threat or that if you main
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your bone, less than 12,000
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square feet or standard metal
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building. You don't need the
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fire suppression system okay
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see that the new and the home.
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Arson I got an ok which makes a
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lot more land right on work.
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Well that limit the size
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aircraft so that you can get
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into each
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section. Well it wasn't looking
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at pretty much the largest
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aircraft group 3 aircraft that
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a Gulfstream. Fenton Abels
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anyway. So.
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Well now that you see of you
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you a strategy for 50 in your
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diagram but that I've seen g 6
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50's come in here to know.
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I yeah, I thought so based on
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the field even bright. I mean
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theoretically you
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you could put just one hangar.
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They're right and be able to
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accommodate that larger than
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that, but you know.
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What is return on investment
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and and how many can you
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and the of those 6 50's you
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really have right now we're
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just asking the question now
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know we basically looked at the
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land that we had available.
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And. How do
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we best utilize action craft.
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When
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gets the you or talk about
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female a video of Asian the
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floor level elevations that's.
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I thought it was higher than
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that for some reason it it
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remember where it using
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you May be using 2 different at
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one of them is and if he 3
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which most current
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and actually it when you look
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at the fema flood maps, the
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ovation is on foot lowered that
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it used to be our up a base
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know the.
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It rolled by the existing
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airfield payments that we have
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understand yet.
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Just clarify some.
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I read a newspaper were Marco
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Island was expanding.
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This was so and your name is
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Marco c
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you do you have any interest a
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financial interest or are you
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building.
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>> And the un town I mean I
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think they put it at the end
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and I believe they got a
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moment.
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You know this is my passion.
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I love to see your planes uh
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well, the Asian and even Marco,
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but like I mentioned before
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else
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excited to put this proposal.
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>> And you're in the bidding
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process. As far as mark a
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violent.
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No I believe they decided.
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Yourself trying to get a feel
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for its that don't still going
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soft.
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>> I have said one other
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question to ask you what's the
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name of your business in
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Danbury
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it will exit aviation. Take
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executive executive air service
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but now no exit to the exit
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evasion got a k. And you know
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been in aviation business.
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Every day makes me happy to see
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Commissioners if I May.
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Being that we don't know Mister
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In eyes and yet that reference
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we call them
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and found that the positive
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feedback that news 10 in good
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standing at cut.
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That are or been
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in Danbury
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Connecticut you do flight
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instruction as well there.
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But when you do flight
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instruction as well as a white
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school. That's currently
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occupy.
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There s a ca. Search so
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basically.
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This space is that correct.
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You know we use of cell.
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No I'm going to be for Naples
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it's going to be rested for a
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business unit charter.
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Maintenance stuff like that.
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>> You were talking about the
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largest sized aircraft that you
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thought would.
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Are you willing to talk about
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modifying your designed to a
[30:11]
common a larger aircraft or is
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is this what you think you want
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to do.
[30:16]
I am definitely open to
[30:16]
modifying aircraft if we which
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if we have to be we won't put a
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wall in the middle we just make
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it one.
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So you can fit the g 6.50.
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But I think I mentioned I g
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6.50 is all here.
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To have the potential.
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Tenet right now that's look
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into paypal sites and they have
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a charter company.
[30:42]
Because I know where mage
[30:43]
but they would like to take if
[30:46]
if I if we get it, it went off
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i guess.
[30:51]
>> Also I notice that
[30:53]
you said you you were going to
[30:54]
be you're going to leave this
[30:57]
project. But you still have
[30:59]
your.
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Facility acted aviation and am
[31:03]
very and you also
[31:05]
working in Marco who is going
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to be responsible for your Dan
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Barry facility.
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Have person When you a long
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time. The budget and.
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You know other business down in
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New York. But
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>> we don't have to worry that
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you spending too much time
[31:33]
and and they're going up of the
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year. Okay I can understand
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okay.
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Think that's all I have anyone
[31:44]
else have They are.
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>> I assume from what's the
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incentive. The signs of 2.
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Spooner the combination and
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path and provide for 2
[31:58]
under current that that that
[31:59]
was predicated on. Fort Hood.
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You perceive that demand to be
[32:04]
4
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Reynolds faces that front.
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Right I figure we go with to
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just in case we don't get some
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money that big.
[32:13]
At least we can
[32:15]
fit too small a jets in there
[32:17]
and I think will probably be
[32:19]
able to rent that a faster sort
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of just one usual. But like I
[32:25]
mentioned before I do have a
[32:25]
potential tena don't want to
[32:26]
take it sure.
[32:28]
And we'll take it you there
[32:31]
with one or divide in the
[32:35]
middle.
[32:37]
I have another
[32:40]
question back to the fire
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suppression so with that
[32:42]
divided like that there's no
[32:43]
requirement cording an fda for
[32:46]
fire suppression on either side
[32:47]
correct. There is a we part
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fire suppression for system
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other air.
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A fire walls and.
[32:57]
Very specific elements right.
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But it doesn't
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are the phone. Our suppression
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so it would be a water or pri
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action system or this year a
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cut.
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>> I May have missed it.
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The sketch shows it under
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2 units 110.
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What does that do work.
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Opening.
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90's 90
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27 under what you propose, but
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what I'm hearing is that you
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are agreeable to modifying that
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design to potentially eliminate
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the partitions and if necessary
[33:45]
increase the door height.
[33:53]
Second
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question are you willing to
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accept a lease which only
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permits commercial uses
[34:04]
in other words it doesn't allow
[34:07]
for private storage. Yes.
[34:10]
The union like a business.
[34:10]
Yes, it does it is that this
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identified as the highest says
[34:12]
that's use in that are in our
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if I want something that can
[34:18]
bring revenue to name.
[34:32]
>> Thank you Gentlemen,
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anything else before you go.
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Yeah, I would I save one
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additional question cake ahead,
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you provided us some
[34:40]
information on are erected
[34:43]
tube.
[34:47]
The officer building that would
[34:50]
be attached to that very little
[34:51]
detail. Do you have anything
[34:54]
more specific on the office in
[34:54]
terms of an architectural
[34:57]
rendering or anything or is
[34:58]
this all you have
[35:01]
this all eh for now. It may
[35:01]
change and
[35:02]
we're looking to build
[35:05]
somebody. You know if you just
[35:06]
a silly when I look in to go
[35:07]
light. Bill like you know like
[35:07]
10 years ago looking to do
[35:10]
anything with it was going to
[35:13]
be Maher.
[35:19]
For us and that is
[35:22]
he's given us parcel won in 2.
[35:25]
2 would it be wise this find
[35:28]
out if there's anything
[35:31]
different.
[35:33]
>> Hang on to that later we
[35:35]
come back, a.
[35:36]
Know we're going to deal with
[35:36]
them completely separately
[35:39]
because they they really are
[35:40]
different. Thank you know.
[35:43]
Thank you Gentlemen, thank you.
[36:04]
>> Ouster of this uh
[36:04]
presentation somehow or another
[36:07]
on the computer I promise you.
[36:10]
Thank you for the time this
[36:12]
morning. My name is Matt Hagens
[36:12]
I'm the owner of Naples jet
[36:16]
center which is part of the
[36:16]
first
[36:17]
wing group of companies first
[36:19]
wing. Aviation companies,
[36:22]
including Eagle Creek aviation
[36:25]
in Indianapolis. First we get
[36:26]
Center northern in Annapolis
[36:27]
which is a reliever airport and
[36:30]
then the first wing jet center
[36:31]
Frankfort Indiana as well as
[36:34]
the tables get better. I also
[36:35]
own a main as you a
[36:38]
chartered management company
[36:39]
also called for swing so
[36:42]
use that Lot so. I'm here today
[36:45]
to request.
[36:48]
Space in the at number one to
[36:49]
expand my business.
[36:51]
To use for basically aircraft
[36:52]
management aircraft maintenance
[36:55]
and story Jeff of doing this
[36:58]
right.
[37:00]
I first want to
[37:03]
the staff of the airport
[37:06]
authority for help in And that
[37:07]
working with this very we
[37:10]
developed this and specifically
[37:10]
to headed to Luke. Thank you
[37:13]
Heather lot of phone calls back
[37:14]
and forth make sure we had
[37:16]
the proposal in on time and for
[37:19]
presentation ready to do so
[37:20]
thank you to her a lot of
[37:21]
emailing back and forth.
[37:24]
The criteria that the board set
[37:28]
out in the us. Proposal
[37:31]
is list
[37:31]
In the proposal and the it's
[37:35]
the cattery categories of that
[37:35]
will define
[37:36]
the decision-making process or
[37:37]
the use of the premises.
[37:39]
The quality the development the
[37:41]
proven record success of the of
[37:43]
the applicant financial
[37:46]
capability references and then
[37:46]
propose lease terms
[37:49]
professionalism and
[37:49]
presentation. I
[37:51]
thought today's best time to do
[37:52]
that use of time would be not
[37:55]
to go back to the presentation
[37:56]
or the proposal regarding
[37:57]
provided you that May be answer
[38:00]
some of these criteria,
[38:02]
directly and
[38:05]
that's where I get I plan to do
[38:06]
that real quickly.
[38:07]
Who is David jet center I'm the
[38:10]
founder I live here and in
[38:13]
Naples of at halftime
[38:14]
gray Oaks is outside the city
[38:17]
limit been here since 2006 open
[38:19]
Naples jets entered 2007.
[38:21]
I believe we're the largest
[38:24]
private employer at the airport
[38:24]
with about 42 employees.
[38:27]
A full-time employees plus part
[38:29]
time. And the team all here
[38:32]
we've been doing I've been
[38:36]
doing this 42 years.
[38:38]
Not rookie. I have a 135 years
[38:39]
of aviation operations and
[38:41]
management experience sitting
[38:42]
in that seat over there so
[38:44]
we're well experience in all
[38:45]
phases of
[38:47]
of the airport operation.
[38:50]
Air aircraft made this aircraft
[38:51]
management.
[38:51]
In an aircraft sale, so that's
[38:54]
a that's my team and they will
[38:58]
be on site.
[39:01]
Naples jet
[39:02]
Most of you was a hanger built
[39:04]
by a predecessor who got in
[39:06]
trouble with the airport
[39:08]
authority by selling fuel.
[39:11]
The airport took over the
[39:12]
property in 2004 5. I don't
[39:15]
remember the exact date we
[39:15]
bought the
[39:16]
rehabilitated it had that we
[39:19]
had its best as we had mold the
[39:19]
loss of
[39:20]
problems, but a million dollars
[39:23]
refurbishment and we steadily
[39:25]
grown our from 2007 to now
[39:28]
the change in the business.
[39:31]
Uh sorry. Well, I copy care.
[39:32]
This is our trend is
[39:34]
actually bet Craig is architect
[39:37]
met.
[39:40]
And the of them up in a This is
[39:41]
a rendering of the hangar
[39:44]
construction and offices that
[39:45]
we're going
[39:46]
to build it and the Naples
[39:49]
style. Quite frankly very
[39:49]
similar earlier prisoner in
[39:52]
size is about 25,000 square
[39:54]
feet of hangar space.
[39:57]
Whether I divide the center
[39:57]
with a fire wall or not quite
[39:58]
frankly, it's a lot depends on
[40:00]
the farmer for the same issue
[40:03]
he's got.
[40:04]
The fire. If you I have a
[40:06]
building bigger than 20 o'clock
[40:09]
1500 you have to have active
[40:12]
suppression. You May we May
[40:13]
have to have it anyway. And the
[40:14]
fire wall May cost more than
[40:17]
suppression so I have made that
[40:18]
decision either. Hangar
[40:19]
going summer side ransomware
[40:20]
size the buildings he is unable
[40:22]
style get into that just a
[40:24]
second.
[40:25]
The site we have and I can do a
[40:29]
little pointing I think with
[40:32]
this of told me right here a.
[40:35]
Our current is here.
[40:36]
And we're
[40:38]
importing the pointer that's
[40:40]
the 3.77 citation point
[40:41]
building that going has are
[40:43]
how's our maintenance at this
[40:45]
point. Hangar 3
[40:48]
a poll by a 3 is part of that
[40:49]
building complex
[40:52]
as used for storage. Hang this
[40:54]
building which was no here the
[40:58]
as the seal more hangar, we
[41:01]
purchased in 2015. It's fall.
[41:01]
Aircraft we both manage an
[41:04]
aircraft that we maintain we
[41:07]
will at some all over
[41:08]
maintenance over that hangar.
[41:09]
I think and then use this that
[41:11]
we're talking about building
[41:14]
for the manage airplanes.
[41:17]
We currently additional.
[41:19]
Well is this a hanger just
[41:20]
being built right now is the
[41:22]
Gulf Coast reactionary with
[41:25]
that I think right.
[41:26]
That was a regular in my space
[41:29]
eisold that when well does it
[41:32]
matter now but to go back and
[41:32]
have the bidding for now, but
[41:35]
that's why so that space and I
[41:38]
read this hangar from you now.
[41:41]
We caught hangar 5 it's at 3.99
[41:43]
staycation point Tucker.
[41:45]
I think it is and we're
[41:46]
proposing that was my hangar
[41:49]
bill to give that back to the
[41:49]
city if they want to have not
[41:52]
only that by continually sit at
[41:54]
your your choice. So.
[41:58]
And it that well the real quick
[42:01]
use the premises real quick.
[42:03]
I do what I do now i
[42:05]
manage airplanes, I maintain
[42:08]
airplanes I charter aircraft.
[42:09]
I do store airplanes.
[42:13]
The airplanes that Ickes store.
[42:13]
And offer stories to are not
[42:15]
us.
[42:16]
It ranks space. I usually have
[42:19]
on of almost exclusively have a
[42:20]
maintenance
[42:21]
management agreement minimally
[42:24]
so the airplanes are bringing
[42:25]
here.
[42:27]
And putting in the hangars are
[42:28]
being maintained at our
[42:31]
facility and we think a great
[42:33]
job instantly are up
[42:36]
our business is growing.
[42:39]
At all locations. The demand is
[42:41]
changing from aircraft
[42:44]
repair 2 aircraft modification
[42:47]
Hughes Electronics.
[42:50]
The the space we need is for
[42:51]
larger cabin aircraft we have
[42:53]
to larger aircraft coming very
[42:54]
soon and we don't really have
[42:57]
space the large cabin airplanes
[42:58]
or what we
[43:00]
really are a that those face
[43:02]
for. I mean im Bricklin
[43:03]
commander service in rare
[43:05]
produces both large and small
[43:06]
airplanes there you'll see a
[43:07]
reference letter your package
[43:10]
that the President Of ember
[43:11]
here has a included for me he
[43:12]
would like me to take over.
[43:13]
The larger aircraft maintenance
[43:15]
for every year we simply do not
[43:18]
have space at this juncture.
[43:24]
I through this
[43:26]
and here just to show you the
[43:26]
2 aircraft to hear the large
[43:27]
cabin airplanes that are that
[43:29]
need this type of hangar space
[43:30]
the left airplane is a Falcon
[43:33]
900 the right as it is a
[43:35]
Gulfstream 5.50.
[43:35]
I think you guys know, but I
[43:38]
discovered is that came out to
[43:41]
second ago.
[43:43]
The aircraft weight
[43:44]
limit here is is
[43:45]
75,000.
[43:47]
The g 5.15 g 6.50 operate its
[43:50]
95,000 gross takeoff weight,
[43:51]
but
[43:53]
each have a service bulletin
[43:53]
where they can operate at
[43:54]
75,000 give the information to
[43:56]
the pilots. The crew have
[43:59]
operate that level so we will
[44:00]
have 6 50's at this airport.
[44:03]
We have to 6 50's that would
[44:05]
like to be here.
[44:06]
If they want me to vanity
[44:07]
airplane on one of their they'd
[44:08]
only a manager that I just
[44:10]
don't want to be a hanger air
[44:13]
that's not my business.
[44:17]
Well the can of development.
[44:19]
The hanger steel will be this
[44:20]
same companies but up the Gulf
[44:23]
Coast anger that Golden giant
[44:24]
buildings out of Ohio they
[44:27]
built 9 hangar farming. They
[44:30]
have architects and they legal
[44:31]
to be a contract and state of
[44:33]
Florida that experience here
[44:34]
they're building right
[44:36]
now so they work with the Kerry
[44:39]
keven and the airport Airport
[44:42]
staff in an in depth.
[44:45]
The site development will be
[44:46]
the current the same Site
[44:47]
engineering firm that the
[44:47]
airport authority uses. I can't
[44:50]
remember the names Kelly's
[44:52]
coming e g solutions
[44:52]
e g solutions thank you.
[44:55]
Though that all the site
[44:58]
development. It will be us
[44:58]
similar height is above the
[45:01]
fema requirement, I think it's
[45:02]
I thought was
[45:03]
7 half. But that is summer that
[45:05]
with the with the 101 slope
[45:05]
down to the taxiway and it
[45:08]
won't have one row for 13 roof.
[45:08]
So I think both
[45:10]
both Africans are talking to
[45:13]
similar size hangar. I think
[45:14]
it's important that we talk
[45:15]
about you know new development
[45:17]
here what we want to look like.
[45:22]
I think we all like the
[45:23]
Naples style. I like a neck
[45:24]
breaking up a little bit and
[45:25]
talk about the style he
[45:27]
selected for the for this
[45:29]
building and what about
[45:29]
the mhk style has become very
[45:32]
popular. I think most of you
[45:32]
know.
[45:34]
Is is it buildings here but you
[45:37]
have to sta. 2 minutes, maybe
[45:40]
we don't have much time.
[45:45]
Good morning. For the record my
[45:46]
name is Matthew
[45:46]
Craig with mhk architecture
[45:47]
planning.
[45:50]
A 9.70 miles 6 Avenue souths us
[45:53]
we 200 city of Naples a
[45:54]
I was delighted when people
[45:55]
jet senator approached us and I
[45:56]
think that the main reason that
[45:58]
in the first 5 minutes of her.
[46:03]
First meeting is. It said when
[46:03]
their customers come and go
[46:04]
they wanted their customers to
[46:06]
feel like they were in Naples
[46:07]
and not seek p or some other
[46:10]
place in how can we achieve
[46:11]
that so we thought through you
[46:12]
know the hanger itself be a
[46:15]
metal building very clean
[46:17]
white. A box.
[46:17]
I'll tell you they have clean
[46:20]
is hangars that I've seen a
[46:22]
very impressed.
[46:25]
The architectural component
[46:26]
Oval Office component a waiting
[46:29]
area area to get a coffee and
[46:31]
so forth.
[46:34]
Outside along with the parking
[46:35]
areas. Will Well landscaped
[46:36]
meeting all the at all the f a
[46:37]
requirements and an a
[46:39]
requirements of the building me
[46:42]
all that in a requirements.
[46:44]
We are no stranger
[46:47]
to the city of Naples process
[46:50]
that design review board and so
[46:52]
for so we we'll have
[46:53]
under control that the style
[46:55]
architecture the building
[46:57]
really wanted to have it
[46:58]
reflects uh oh you know that
[47:00]
hey I'm home I'm in Naples and
[47:01]
ah this
[47:02]
is what the houses in my
[47:03]
neighborhood sort of feel like
[47:04]
but a more commercial clear
[47:05]
like we did with the Hyatt
[47:08]
Hotel born April square or
[47:10]
maker but also around the
[47:13]
airport. Even a little break
[47:14]
bridge structure that
[47:15]
currently connects the Naples
[47:16]
there the uh the Gordon River
[47:17]
Greenway to the city of Naples
[47:20]
has a structure similar to this
[47:23]
that we design recently so
[47:25]
we are we are pleased
[47:28]
to be a part of this it's just
[47:29]
there's been a great
[47:30]
company to work with and we
[47:31]
hope you go there direction if
[47:34]
you have any questions, I'm
[47:37]
happy to answer those 4.
[47:39]
>> Well as photos apart just
[47:42]
mention that the the road and
[47:43]
parking placement
[47:45]
in this rendering is that the
[47:48]
road is in the place as
[47:51]
proposed Kerry keys design.
[47:54]
We would anticipate
[47:56]
of we're going to extend pop
[47:56]
and Lane to that in
[47:59]
coordination with average the
[48:01]
us. The winner site too.
[48:02]
It will be some coordination
[48:05]
there. The only a rent
[48:06]
abatement we've asked for is if
[48:09]
the site to doesn't develop
[48:11]
quickly that you
[48:13]
Laos of a given that and the
[48:16]
until were reimbursed for half
[48:16]
caused by a
[48:17]
well remember to recite number
[48:20]
2. We go directly comparable
[48:23]
about out of time here.
[48:25]
The company itself I
[48:28]
have been or 10 years. I know
[48:29]
most of You know I
[48:32]
very proud that group I've got
[48:33]
my my
[48:37]
Solid 40 years continuous
[48:37]
growth
[48:39]
we have a lot of long-term
[48:40]
employees. We've won the
[48:42]
Diamond award for training in
[48:45]
excellence more than a dozen
[48:46]
years in a row.
[48:49]
We sell to My main its clients,
[48:50]
my management clients in the
[48:53]
hangar Class a are 280,000
[48:54]
gallons worth of fuel
[48:54]
purchasing the airport
[48:57]
authority and they over billion
[48:59]
dollars so far
[49:02]
2006 2018. We are we do
[49:04]
represent a number of
[49:06]
aircraft manufacturers and
[49:08]
builders and will have and I
[49:09]
think we're doing we're doing
[49:11]
aircraft yet make this on this
[49:13]
airport when airplane brakes on
[49:14]
the runway or has a problem.
[49:15]
We get that call when they when
[49:16]
you need the airplane as it
[49:18]
like go out a flat tire on the
[49:20]
ramp. We respond 24 hours a
[49:21]
day. I think we've been good
[49:23]
citizens here in a proven our
[49:26]
worth.
[49:28]
We
[49:30]
currently bike on the a 160
[49:33]
total employees this project
[49:34]
will add 8 to 10 right
[49:34]
away just just but the physical
[49:36]
size that an additional
[49:37]
maintenance and what it
[49:38]
will bring with managed
[49:41]
aircraft. We believe that it
[49:42]
could at 20 to 25 I
[49:45]
think that will jobs within 3
[49:46]
to 5 years. And aircraft
[49:48]
technician jobs. Are in the 50
[49:51]
to 75 range pilots are in the
[49:54]
90 to one 50 range.
[49:58]
i have
[50:01]
the cash to start the project
[50:02]
and I have a good left a
[50:04]
commitment from Centennial bank
[50:06]
there's a letter in my proposal
[50:09]
from the President Pablo that
[50:11]
to as the mortgage
[50:14]
on one of my buildings now and
[50:15]
we've got a relationship with
[50:17]
him we've had since they were
[50:17]
they were partners banking and
[50:18]
stonegate bank and now central.
[50:21]
If you've been Centennial bank.
[50:24]
So that sets
[50:26]
that situation, I've included a
[50:29]
number of references in our
[50:31]
proposal.
[50:32]
Without re gonna come pull this
[50:35]
part of that a pretty well
[50:38]
known this business.
[50:41]
I've included a reference the
[50:42]
aircraft owners and pilots
[50:45]
Association President Mark
[50:45]
Baker who I know
[50:46]
personally servants, several
[50:48]
volunteer boards. I feel about
[50:49]
for for them, I style my
[50:52]
representation, the community
[50:55]
and my ethics. The the
[50:59]
in very aircraft. Here in
[51:00]
Florida and now
[51:02]
they they voted no for Florida
[51:04]
a name me one other key
[51:05]
strategic partner time on their
[51:07]
planning committee and they
[51:08]
would like to sit do the bigger
[51:10]
aircraft. We don't have space
[51:12]
for him. And I'd like to
[51:15]
Most of us know don't look back
[51:16]
in. He was here for the board
[51:18]
for I think 18 years that
[51:21]
factory that Mr. Higgins Griese
[51:22]
business into one of the
[51:23]
authorities largest and most
[51:24]
able candidates. The company
[51:25]
scrupulously followed the rules
[51:26]
and regulations of the
[51:28]
authority enhanced the attract
[51:31]
and activists of its sites.
[51:33]
There are a
[51:34]
number of other references in
[51:34]
our in our poll. You're in a
[51:37]
asking for is up on our
[51:38]
completion of the
[51:40]
Falcon lean extension of
[51:40]
parking lot that I until
[51:43]
unreimbursed by developers
[51:46]
adjacent to the red be abated
[51:49]
the lease rate we would
[51:50]
propose. We would definitely
[51:53]
support that the airport
[51:54]
authority should attach a 20%
[51:56]
premium for all the runway
[51:59]
facing air site leases
[52:00]
being on
[52:01]
the next to the runway has
[52:03]
value. The people see it if I
[52:04]
don't get this item want to be
[52:05]
penalised because I'm not going
[52:07]
to have it. So I believe that
[52:10]
should be a premium. I would
[52:11]
propose a support
[52:11]
paying a premium for that site
[52:12]
as long as everybody else was
[52:15]
on the on the new leases pay
[52:18]
the same. And the other 3 d a I
[52:19]
think.
[52:19]
>> You've got to fill use a
[52:20]
bring you we're we're going to
[52:23]
be I think we have a set rate
[52:24]
right now it's a
[52:25]
but is it.
[52:28]
Believe your proposal included
[52:29]
$0.48 per square foot it says
[52:30]
it 40 at what what what's the
[52:33]
what's the standard for bodies
[52:36]
rally fact now when the rfp.
[52:37]
>> The minimum was $0.40 per
[52:38]
square foot. Yeah, the current
[52:41]
is 40's 40 sense of what you're
[52:42]
charging I I think everybody
[52:44]
decides with the leaves are all
[52:45]
set at I
[52:48]
think that ought to be set a
[52:49]
premium. I I propose 20%
[52:51]
obviously out it's a gauche
[52:53]
avoid it, but I would think you
[52:54]
should do it all when they
[52:57]
renew. And we're the best a 30
[52:59]
year term.
[53:02]
i think that answering
[53:05]
questions.
[53:08]
In addition to our
[53:11]
you just a a.
[53:12]
>> In addition a need to be.
[53:14]
Additional space for expansion
[53:16]
of your business you.
[53:17]
Just stated that you got to
[53:20]
have that location on the
[53:23]
border from a a.
[53:29]
Publicity is that.
[53:31]
But your position were
[53:34]
in coming up. Credit would be
[53:37]
able to to see your
[53:38]
locations that are part of it
[53:40]
too.
[53:42]
I think it's location location
[53:42]
location. Yes, Sir.
[53:43]
The.
[53:46]
There have been a number of
[53:48]
failed. Aircraft
[53:51]
service businesses that are
[53:52]
tacked back.
[53:53]
We're difficult to get a taxi
[53:54]
to I I can't say one plane
[53:57]
Masters or something of that I
[53:57]
can't think of it couldn't get
[54:00]
back to the hangar. So they
[54:03]
went out of business. So yes,
[54:04]
they'll and vision but to
[54:04]
the runway site airside is
[54:07]
important and valuable. Yes
[54:10]
Sir.
[54:17]
>> You mention that letter from
[54:18]
Centennial bank is a commitment
[54:19]
that when I read this it says
[54:20]
this letter is not and should
[54:22]
not be interpreted as a
[54:25]
comeback.
[54:26]
>> There you can enjoy make it
[54:28]
specific applications, no lease
[54:31]
here but He wrote a strong as
[54:31]
he can
[54:34]
write without me having
[54:34]
anything to do it. Youhat day
[54:36]
that the money is there.
[54:37]
Well that's my qstion is I
[54:40]
mean are you I mean you look
[54:41]
very from what I can hear you
[54:43]
see of your current operations
[54:43]
in.
[54:45]
This you know want to make sure
[54:47]
that when I read that that kind
[54:50]
of most contradict a little bit
[54:50]
what you said firms would make
[54:51]
sure everything's. It's a legal
[54:53]
disclaimer he had to put in ok.
[54:56]
I promise
[54:59]
you a kind of money is
[55:00]
arranged. I have a
[55:02]
backup bank as well as it got
[55:03]
closer to I'm building a number
[55:04]
hangers right now as well, I'm
[55:05]
building at 2 hangars
[55:08]
Indianapolis net the financing
[55:11]
to all ranged ok.
[55:14]
Substantial cash to to handle
[55:14]
the beginning of that night are
[55:15]
portion that is probably that
[55:16]
probably borrow 2 thirds out
[55:20]
gas company that ring. That's
[55:21]
kind of what we don't know
[55:22]
previous ones country.
[55:24]
Commissioner lenhart one of the
[55:24]
term so far.
[55:26]
Standard lease of course when
[55:29]
you have an existing facility.
[55:34]
If they. She going to default
[55:35]
for financial considerations
[55:36]
obviously the authority as
[55:39]
remedies take back a hangar
[55:40]
right in the construction
[55:41]
situation, there is risk some
[55:44]
more recently. Past couple of
[55:45]
leases there's been a
[55:46]
requirement to provide either a
[55:47]
letter of credit or a
[55:50]
construction bond prior to
[55:54]
construction.
[55:56]
If anything should
[55:57]
happen whether be a financing
[56:00]
problem or some other okay,
[56:03]
this truck shun.
[56:04]
So you've got things
[56:05]
and put in place to as
[56:07]
protection from that will be
[56:09]
part of this lease is what
[56:12]
action a cut. And we're fine
[56:13]
with that of on
[56:14]
was plight.
[56:15]
Across that everybody is all
[56:16]
right I just picked being
[56:17]
picked out a right. That's
[56:20]
going to pick on I have to ask
[56:22]
these
[56:24]
know it's it's fair effect.
[56:25]
But you know that that is a
[56:27]
situation Chris Benz that that
[56:28]
could happen somebody gets you
[56:29]
know I have to hang a living
[56:31]
there now have built. Yes, I
[56:34]
get it.
[56:36]
And also I just got to make
[56:39]
comment that you these 2
[56:40]
hangars are going to be
[56:42]
very visible from the runway.
[56:43]
So I I think coordination
[56:46]
between the 2 winners of these
[56:49]
2 sites is I I know that
[56:52]
I would hope
[56:53]
that whoever wins site too
[56:55]
would work with us and we have
[56:56]
some are looking so you don't
[56:57]
have disproportionate looking
[56:57]
and we want to look back we
[57:00]
want the Naples look for
[57:03]
everybody right.
[57:12]
>> You talked about
[57:14]
the facility and
[57:15]
and mention that. You mentioned
[57:17]
for your jets. I know that you
[57:20]
have a in their proposal a 25
[57:23]
foot tall.
[57:26]
Well the door system.
[57:27]
I
[57:28]
thought so not proposals has uh
[57:31]
it's incorrect to be 28 that's
[57:34]
the typo.
[57:35]
>> Okay it did take 25 so my
[57:36]
question to you is going to
[57:36]
college eyes. President
[57:38]
Consider we had a few patients
[57:41]
to that.
[57:42]
And there are you
[57:43]
know it's state of the art of a
[57:44]
new aircraft coming on line new
[57:47]
corporate aircraft coming on
[57:50]
line that would we need
[57:52]
tall indoors.
[57:55]
You're the gulf strained right
[58:00]
now 25 a 26 feet. And we're
[58:01]
trying to put a satellite
[58:02]
receiving dollars on them again
[58:02]
at another foot to that.
[58:04]
You have to have a least a foot
[58:08]
clearance on top of We're
[58:10]
building 28 foot doors.
[58:11]
Bottom roller doors and that's
[58:14]
that's the style of your we're
[58:17]
probably going to use.
[58:21]
>> What is
[58:22]
the distance from the front of
[58:25]
your hangar to the edge of the
[58:28]
tax Elaine object.
[58:31]
>> I don't know dk you recall
[58:35]
that.
[58:43]
And it is definitely all this
[58:44]
is we've built before with
[58:46]
other authorities. We know
[58:49]
there might be some given taken
[58:51]
to integration with
[58:51]
Tory utilities the road
[58:54]
placement all signing that I
[58:57]
think so.
[58:58]
What we do is that
[59:01]
the I think free area. We are
[59:04]
good to build up the eu high.
[59:17]
>> And that's your play here.
[59:22]
But this was that prescribed
[59:23]
area here.
[59:26]
The footprint here that's why
[59:30]
we actually utilized a
[59:30]
putting the building. Office
[59:33]
component where the job in the
[59:36]
road against there. Okay.
[59:38]
>> We get the road in the
[59:41]
saces the proposal showed
[59:44]
the Dr. Extension.
[59:45]
>> And the death of the hangar.
[59:47]
I'm assuming car leads to the
[59:50]
size of the aircraft that
[59:50]
you're thinking about.
[59:52]
>> Yeah that right the comment
[59:53]
that the best side these
[59:55]
airplanes have about a 105 foot
[59:58]
we spend a
[1:00:00]
so a 120 by a 110 is that big
[1:00:03]
thing get and you was the under
[1:00:04]
17 if you can if you're going
[1:00:06]
to use a a. Separate a wall so
[1:00:08]
in that been hooked well for
[1:00:09]
something. So 120 by what the
[1:00:12]
one on I want to wait with some
[1:00:15]
number.
[1:00:19]
>> The cylinder this to the
[1:00:20]
funding question. I think
[1:00:23]
that's all ahead. Any other
[1:00:26]
questions.
[1:00:32]
>> Matt you
[1:00:33]
in Breyer is requested for you
[1:00:34]
to take on some of the larger
[1:00:37]
aircraft maintenance what does
[1:00:39]
that mean.
[1:00:41]
>> That they 3 sizes of
[1:00:41]
airplanes, the fee knows that
[1:00:42]
were that we see in airport and
[1:00:45]
very billion on your ramp with
[1:00:47]
net jets and others.
[1:00:50]
The neck size they they They
[1:00:51]
now call the Prater series.
[1:00:53]
That is an airplane we
[1:00:57]
currently don't work on in the
[1:00:57]
30's in some sales they make
[1:01:00]
a larger airplane which is the.
[1:01:04]
I called it's called the c
[1:01:06]
series. It's basically the
[1:01:09]
legacy 600 legacy 6.50. There
[1:01:11]
are underserved.
[1:01:14]
They have facility here in the
[1:01:15]
2 facilities and Florida.
[1:01:17]
One in Fort Lauderdale's and
[1:01:20]
one in Melbourne. They'd like
[1:01:21]
to get out of the large
[1:01:23]
aircraft maintenance in both of
[1:01:24]
those facilities there ask us
[1:01:25]
to to take a look at doing that
[1:01:26]
certain business case we have
[1:01:28]
to decide to meet a million
[1:01:31]
dollars and tooling for each of
[1:01:33]
those. So based on your part
[1:01:36]
polls all year.
[1:01:37]
Conceptually looking to serve
[1:01:38]
that market which would the
[1:01:40]
something that's not presently
[1:01:43]
offered that's correct. We
[1:01:46]
don't have space now for that
[1:01:46]
we have to class looking at
[1:01:47]
Gulfstream so we do not remains
[1:01:50]
and we would manage those
[1:01:53]
airplanes. A prophetic ruining
[1:01:56]
the services.
[1:02:09]
Thank you thank you very much.
[1:02:12]
Thank her.
[1:02:18]
Are we ready to.
[1:02:25]
Just for personal one. This is
[1:02:29]
Janet Parshall one yet.
[1:02:32]
Jump right in there. He wanted.
[1:02:40]
>> To say and we can for a
[1:02:41]
couple of reasons on nothing
[1:02:44]
negative. These you know that.
[1:02:51]
We've got business for that
[1:02:54]
front some period of time.
[1:02:57]
We we got on really Joe o
[1:02:58]
what he's got to
[1:03:01]
who was she of to the hardest
[1:03:04]
part protect you Naples.
[1:03:11]
Uh this is a couple months ago,
[1:03:14]
I guess o I was impressed how
[1:03:16]
poisoned
[1:03:18]
an orderly and everything
[1:03:21]
looked. I don't really think
[1:03:22]
about
[1:03:25]
aircraft maintenance season.
[1:03:26]
Experiences would use of it.
[1:03:29]
There's and most of those are
[1:03:30]
true, she said.
[1:03:33]
But his training and everything
[1:03:36]
looked at it. Wilmington.
[1:03:38]
Now ferntree life the a
[1:03:41]
the designer that he proposing
[1:03:43]
for the facility.
[1:03:44]
So are our guests to those of a
[1:03:47]
major the reasons are with him.
[1:03:50]
>> I think what you're saying
[1:03:53]
is you would rank who says or
[1:03:54]
it too.
[1:03:57]
If right. The former for him I
[1:04:00]
were if you want.
[1:04:09]
Signs members to it.
[1:04:22]
>> And I guess I would also say
[1:04:22]
you know they are both very
[1:04:25]
good presentations and I think
[1:04:27]
they both
[1:04:29]
both companies could.
[1:04:31]
Could do a good Developing the
[1:04:32]
site. But my my suggestion
[1:04:35]
would be Naples their center
[1:04:38]
simply because
[1:04:38]
no offense to we we they're
[1:04:41]
known quantity for us they've
[1:04:43]
been you know
[1:04:44]
in Naples airport for quite a
[1:04:44]
while we know what they can do
[1:04:47]
what they can perform so that
[1:04:48]
would be my purse. That would
[1:04:51]
be number one or the other
[1:04:55]
would be number 2. To
[1:04:55]
clarify believing needles jet
[1:04:57]
center.
[1:04:58]
And I say there's a maple
[1:04:59]
general sorry you're right.
[1:05:01]
You're able to get sent us what
[1:05:04]
I meant to say.
[1:05:07]
I've got the same feeling.
[1:05:12]
>> Is passionate, I'm a
[1:05:15]
passionate about airplanes that
[1:05:17]
the just.
[1:05:19]
Hedges that just slightly 2
[1:05:22]
neighbors. And that Naples jet.
[1:05:29]
And that's one of the more
[1:05:29]
thing.
[1:05:31]
What I want one thing I liked
[1:05:33]
about market was their offer
[1:05:37]
$0.55 a square foot. It was
[1:05:39]
very generous of that.
[1:05:42]
Shooting Mabel's jet center.
[1:05:48]
>> The curve with what these
[1:05:50]
gentlemen have
[1:05:53]
I I believe I sank on this
[1:05:56]
tough times for His
[1:05:57]
proposal and flexibility.
[1:06:00]
I think that's really important
[1:06:01]
because he showed a lot of
[1:06:04]
flexibility when we asked him
[1:06:04]
questions and his agreed to
[1:06:08]
modifications but I would agree
[1:06:09]
that the ranking should be
[1:06:12]
first for Naples jet center and
[1:06:15]
2nd for.
[1:06:19]
>> They deserve and that is my
[1:06:22]
vote was based on
[1:06:24]
personal one. Something May
[1:06:25]
come up National right to it
[1:06:26]
really just talking about for
[1:06:28]
some time.
[1:06:31]
This is all about porcelain.
[1:06:32]
Well we're just talking a
[1:06:33]
person want. So we're in a move
[1:06:36]
to press them to in a minute.
[1:06:39]
So not to worry.
[1:06:42]
>> Do we
[1:06:44]
need a motion for this.
[1:06:46]
>> I would really recommend
[1:06:47]
that ok. All right do I have a
[1:06:50]
For the ranking of parcel won.
[1:07:01]
>> And just to clarify a is the
[1:07:02]
motion that you are proposing
[1:07:04]
that Naples Jen center be
[1:07:05]
ranked number one for parcel
[1:07:07]
one in Marco hangers lcv ranked
[1:07:10]
number 2 for first it is thank
[1:07:13]
you.
[1:07:18]
>> And though the 2 when we get
[1:07:21]
to one I mean to 2
[1:07:26]
when I think about too.
[1:07:27]
Time it into a really talk
[1:07:27]
about it will be what will
[1:07:29]
offer too. The reason that were
[1:07:30]
slipped to also get so they'll
[1:07:31]
have an opportunity to come
[1:07:33]
back up and speak out to
[1:07:36]
present a threat.
[1:07:46]
Oh you did I'm sorry ending
[1:07:46]
here
[1:07:49]
all in favor signify by saying
[1:07:50]
aye aye. She cares unanimously
[1:07:53]
thank you. Ok so we will move
[1:07:56]
to parcel to.
[1:08:02]
Call it hangers.
[1:08:29]
Simple parcel to.
[1:08:33]
No one of our clangers
[1:08:34]
submitted a proposal to build a
[1:08:36]
aviation business complex
[1:08:37]
partial to and currently
[1:08:41]
offering $0.55 a square foot
[1:08:42]
and negotiable at that.
[1:08:45]
Comey own an f b on the Emory
[1:08:49]
Connecticut.
[1:08:52]
Same thing offers you know on
[1:08:53]
hangar space
[1:08:54]
flight school lobbies and it I
[1:08:55]
don't we also sell fuel
[1:08:57]
additive when I can sell fuel
[1:08:58]
line here.
[1:09:01]
Been a pilot for over 20 years.
[1:09:02]
An aircraft owner
[1:09:05]
I moved to mark about 3 years
[1:09:07]
ago.
[1:09:08]
And based in Mark all. I fly a
[1:09:10]
lot of people say got in on a
[1:09:12]
full screen. Well.
[1:09:13]
People's when it gets so
[1:09:16]
excited to put propose and I
[1:09:19]
did that's a folks see that.
[1:09:25]
And that it about myself came
[1:09:28]
from the us and Europe. I can
[1:09:29]
use the same show twice.
[1:09:29]
You know I don't I don't want
[1:09:32]
to buy what you hear. There as
[1:09:33]
Bella's anyway, but
[1:09:36]
>> sudden to mark about 3 years
[1:09:37]
ago
[1:09:38]
keep neck will be standing, I
[1:09:41]
you know I said I but in
[1:09:42]
Naples.
[1:09:43]
I'm working with the wreck to 2
[1:09:46]
which I work with them before.
[1:09:51]
25 different hangers before
[1:09:54]
so it's not my first rodeo.
[1:09:55]
On No you guys don't know if
[1:09:58]
you know I've done stuff like
[1:10:00]
this before.
[1:10:02]
What I like about them is like
[1:10:04]
I said before they do the
[1:10:05]
building and your door sorts of
[1:10:06]
never go so wrong. You can only
[1:10:08]
blame or cop instead of the
[1:10:11]
other one.
[1:10:15]
And I'm also working
[1:10:15]
with the homeless team. A low
[1:10:16]
carrying is going to be a
[1:10:19]
project manager and engineer
[1:10:22]
foot this parcel also.
[1:10:26]
I believe look has done.
[1:10:29]
Everything read enables
[1:10:31]
he knows Naples very well, he's
[1:10:32]
done numerous other airports.
[1:10:32]
I believe there is no one
[1:10:34]
better than him for this
[1:10:37]
project. He knows there.
[1:10:40]
The regulations and everything
[1:10:43]
about it. And now we'll have a
[1:10:44]
look come up and talk
[1:10:45]
about the site planned. And
[1:10:48]
then afterwards, few folks have
[1:10:51]
been questions like that.
[1:10:57]
If Oregon
[1:10:58]
again look carrier.
[1:11:01]
>> a whole month as Fort Myers.
[1:11:01]
We're going to my
[1:11:04]
discussion on the on the hanger
[1:11:06]
specifics,
[1:11:08]
just a bit. The interested to
[1:11:08]
know one of the favorite
[1:11:10]
hangars that I design was among
[1:11:12]
the Big Bang are currently
[1:11:13]
owned by hurts that was a very
[1:11:17]
that was kind of a a statement
[1:11:20]
there.
[1:11:22]
The first one
[1:11:23]
sided where the condominium
[1:11:25]
work while the enterprise back
[1:11:27]
in 1990's.
[1:11:30]
Are the bottom right hand
[1:11:33]
corner. And then.
[1:11:33]
A little bit more recently the
[1:11:37]
a c c a a sheriff's office only
[1:11:40]
at but their helicopter.
[1:11:42]
>> With regards to
[1:11:45]
this particular parcel. It's a
[1:11:46]
little bit smaller than
[1:11:46]
partial want it's uh it's it's
[1:11:49]
it somewhat constrained.
[1:11:51]
It's about a
[1:11:52]
51,000 a 1.2 acres. We are able
[1:11:55]
to put in the 24. A 1000 square
[1:11:59]
foot.
[1:12:02]
Higher
[1:12:04]
the were we're constrained
[1:12:06]
with the frontage at a 100
[1:12:09]
feet. So if you are to put
[1:12:11]
rolling doors on your.
[1:12:15]
Going to be losing about 20
[1:12:15]
foot of opening snow years
[1:12:16]
down to their opening of 80
[1:12:18]
feet. We're looking to utilise
[1:12:19]
of by full doors which gives
[1:12:22]
us. Mason that the rolling
[1:12:24]
doors.
[1:12:24]
Gives us greater flexibility.
[1:12:26]
But there is a limitation on
[1:12:29]
the size that they can actually
[1:12:32]
be
[1:12:33]
fight it.
[1:12:36]
Again here going to be
[1:12:36]
providing
[1:12:38]
about 1800 square feet of a
[1:12:41]
friend again we're constraining
[1:12:41]
the access to
[1:12:42]
the apron so that it's a little
[1:12:44]
bit more controlled. Staying
[1:12:45]
out of the attacks actually not
[1:12:48]
get free area for tax Lady too.
[1:12:53]
The buildings will be divided
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again without fire suppression
[1:12:59]
wall. A
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they will be provided
[1:13:02]
with all of parking and the
[1:13:03]
office areas that include
[1:13:05]
waiting and restrooms the type
[1:13:09]
of facilities that we have
[1:13:10]
propose
[1:13:11]
and a consistent with the
[1:13:13]
minimum standards. They can we
[1:13:16]
will be extending the roadway
[1:13:16]
along with the water disorder
[1:13:19]
electrical utilities to support
[1:13:23]
a Sony
[1:13:23]
as per jet center.
[1:13:24]
You know we'll be working with
[1:13:27]
them in terms of coordinating
[1:13:31]
that that effort.
[1:13:36]
Are very
[1:13:37]
a rudimentary in that they they
[1:13:40]
kind of show what we're going
[1:13:43]
to be looking the.
[1:13:46]
The the hunger buildings
[1:13:46]
themselves are the engineer
[1:13:49]
metal buildings, they don't
[1:13:49]
they there's not a lot of to
[1:13:52]
them you want to keep it simple
[1:13:55]
you don't want to stand out.
[1:13:59]
Again we'll be identifying the
[1:14:01]
use of the by fold that
[1:14:04]
because of the constraint and
[1:14:05]
with and the structural
[1:14:07]
members in the in the building
[1:14:10]
itself Republican be limited to
[1:14:11]
about a 90 foot.
[1:14:12]
Opened clear opening. So we're
[1:14:14]
not going to be able to get the
[1:14:16]
very largest aircraft assuming
[1:14:17]
we go with this I Russia's
[1:14:19]
indicate a willingness to say
[1:14:21]
maybe we want to put in one
[1:14:23]
opening just as we discussed it
[1:14:25]
the other which then we could
[1:14:26]
go a little bit higher using
[1:14:28]
the role indoors but for
[1:14:31]
purpose of this discussion and
[1:14:34]
our initial proposal.
[1:14:36]
We're looking a 20 foot door
[1:14:36]
thatfoot clear opening
[1:14:37]
again the finish floor
[1:14:39]
elevation would be consistent
[1:14:42]
with tying into the existing
[1:14:45]
taxi ways ticks to tax Lane
[1:14:46]
and meeting the fema
[1:14:49]
regulations. The roof pitches
[1:14:52]
one on 12 very similar to
[1:14:53]
jet center as proposed in
[1:14:56]
office height of a of 20 feet.
[1:15:09]
It's going to be serviced the
[1:15:12]
public. Meet
[1:15:12]
all standards.
[1:15:15]
We're looking to work with
[1:15:17]
whoever get the other parts.
[1:15:20]
Well the quality. Her can
[1:15:23]
resist and hangars we'll meet
[1:15:26]
all and in I'm standing.
[1:15:29]
Lisa 30 years $0.55.
[1:15:32]
These freight which because
[1:15:35]
have a point but civil.
[1:15:41]
Mangia myself.
[1:15:44]
We have the finance. There's no
[1:15:45]
baby no no to.
[1:15:48]
Effect of business marking
[1:15:51]
plan.
[1:15:52]
Service the public.
[1:15:55]
Exceptional team design low
[1:15:57]
Kariya I
[1:16:00]
quality construction material.
[1:16:03]
And we need all and and Locust
[1:16:06]
and its safety it party
[1:16:09]
and the increase
[1:16:12]
revenue to Naples airport.
[1:16:13]
Last one us $0.55 the street.
[1:16:17]
I know what you folks don't
[1:16:19]
know.
[1:16:23]
I'm very interested in this
[1:16:26]
project.
[1:16:28]
And it's hard sometimes to take
[1:16:29]
some hey you know what I don't
[1:16:30]
always fun and this and that
[1:16:31]
then I get the point but
[1:16:33]
everybody's got us thought a
[1:16:35]
summer.
[1:16:38]
I appreciate you guys taking
[1:16:41]
the title of my proposal.
[1:16:45]
>> Yeah
[1:16:48]
you mentioned earlier in this
[1:16:51]
prison that you built over some
[1:16:54]
roughly 25 angers whatever.
[1:16:56]
Do you still on 25 angry life
[1:16:57]
sold them all so I went and I
[1:17:00]
sold them. Kinds of 55 might or
[1:17:01]
might have a cold.
[1:17:02]
Buildable were corrected to
[1:17:05]
before. Also the board and
[1:17:08]
then.
[1:17:08]
Use the run tonight slowly,
[1:17:10]
everybody was kind of biting of
[1:17:11]
Isis hole are they on Danbury
[1:17:17]
are there different. Louis Van
[1:17:25]
Plans to do that.
[1:17:26]
But these are was well Mike
[1:17:27]
list yet believe what I'm
[1:17:28]
looking to his is put it
[1:17:29]
business using can print
[1:17:32]
revenue and to Naples so we
[1:17:32]
could be
[1:17:33]
you know neighbors can make
[1:17:36]
more money at the same terms of
[1:17:37]
business for me.
[1:17:38]
I'm looking to bring a business
[1:17:41]
here don't raise revenue to
[1:17:43]
name.
[1:17:44]
And it's like look talk about
[1:17:45]
it we have to take this this
[1:17:47]
building just make one hangar.
[1:17:50]
We'll do that if
[1:17:51]
we have the client to come in
[1:17:54]
like I mentioned. We did have
[1:17:57]
to find the parcel.
[1:18:02]
And so while uh uh huh it opens
[1:18:04]
up a investment, you know if
[1:18:05]
that's possible. And if if we
[1:18:08]
have to just make one huge and
[1:18:11]
their space will do so.
[1:18:13]
>> Talk a little bit more about
[1:18:16]
that talk a little bit more of
[1:18:19]
that.
[1:18:34]
>> As always you know.
[1:18:42]
Place we can run ads and
[1:18:43]
market this off.
[1:18:45]
And the difference between
[1:18:49]
have.
[1:18:54]
But the defense I think is the
[1:18:57]
cost to build the because we.
[1:19:03]
Because I figured.
[1:19:05]
Man what a bigger one. Well
[1:19:08]
maybe change, but it's all up
[1:19:11]
to us get in to buy.
[1:19:13]
And to add something to that
[1:19:13]
there there is.
[1:19:14]
Constraints and looking at that
[1:19:17]
you Britain yet the hangar
[1:19:20]
building.
[1:19:26]
Various 95 feet.
[1:19:27]
So when you bring an aircraft
[1:19:29]
out for fueling you've got to
[1:19:31]
make sure that that aircraft is
[1:19:32]
outside of the so you can to
[1:19:34]
kind of constraint in terms of
[1:19:35]
aircraft sizes so if you were
[1:19:38]
to put in yell 7. When some 37
[1:19:40]
in there.
[1:19:41]
>> It's just not going to be
[1:19:42]
able to heal. So you you've got
[1:19:45]
a look at all the various
[1:19:48]
considerations.
[1:20:03]
>> And go ahead Chris one
[1:20:03]
looking think he's probably
[1:20:06]
more so Lou that the death of
[1:20:09]
the hangar.
[1:20:12]
Willing to reduce the death of
[1:20:15]
the hangar that is.
[1:20:30]
It's not just the are.
[1:21:26]
But if you if you get to one
[1:21:26]
unit. Let me make it is it.
[1:21:29]
How high do you think will be
[1:21:32]
the maximum door.
[1:21:56]
>> does it matter
[1:21:59]
to us whether a divided.
[1:22:01]
Good too. Sections of the bill
[1:22:01]
does have one section. What is
[1:22:05]
our our as long as they're not
[1:22:08]
drawn.
[1:22:08]
10 in a
[1:22:11]
5 bag are you.
[1:22:14]
It is ours it will work.
[1:22:17]
>> Well we do and maybe this is
[1:22:20]
one additional question.
[1:22:20]
You mentioned in your Pryor
[1:22:23]
parcel I believe it was a
[1:22:26]
charter tenant yeah
[1:22:27]
and is that still an
[1:22:27]
option here right side is
[1:22:30]
enough no case. This layout is
[1:22:31]
more suitable to in
[1:22:34]
private. Lee Stuart aircraft,
[1:22:35]
not.
[1:22:37]
And are there but the business
[1:22:41]
want a larger hangar with a
[1:22:41]
business for Naples
[1:22:44]
probably lean towards the
[1:22:47]
singular.
[1:22:49]
Is it possible, yes,
[1:22:52]
but then your neighbors, your
[1:22:53]
compete for ramp space when you
[1:22:54]
pull the aircraft out pending
[1:22:56]
up on how many you got the move
[1:22:59]
aircraft around you might they
[1:23:01]
might try to temporary least
[1:23:02]
ircraft on the tax Elaine
[1:23:03]
and that's going then lead to a
[1:23:06]
problem with some of the other
[1:23:09]
neighboring hangers so yes,
[1:23:12]
it's accurate to say it's
[1:23:15]
constrain site but.
[1:23:17]
Delicate balance
[1:23:17]
and trying to make all these
[1:23:19]
things work together so apart
[1:23:21]
from his stamp or a devotion
[1:23:23]
worker.
[1:23:24]
Look at you the same got well
[1:23:26]
we're probably looking at odds.
[1:23:28]
They want it.
[1:23:29]
Workers say a demand. The size
[1:23:31]
of aircraft are going to fight
[1:23:34]
about it. The event is greater.
[1:23:37]
Oh okay, only in that one.
[1:23:40]
But also the fire divide it
[1:23:42]
in reactor 2 sides. What is the
[1:23:45]
he did as compared with Warren
[1:23:48]
yet from one big coming m.
[1:23:50]
Its sister or numbers,
[1:23:53]
their games for time. Of course
[1:23:55]
the worse it is All of these
[1:23:58]
people are applied. Word is
[1:23:59]
much on a visit the broke
[1:24:00]
and that's certainly
[1:24:01]
understandable. We want to be
[1:24:03]
successful. We don't want to
[1:24:04]
hurt somebody
[1:24:05]
you know who's on successor,
[1:24:08]
we've got. We will be shared
[1:24:09]
some of his from Sir. That's
[1:24:09]
world.
[1:24:12]
But by the same token the
[1:24:15]
logistics have to.
[1:24:16]
Questions that are asked to
[1:24:19]
respond Korea. But in on the
[1:24:22]
stem. What difference it made
[1:24:24]
the us is as long as the going
[1:24:24]
green major problems racial
[1:24:25]
obviously rainiest this
[1:24:28]
question also you you intend to
[1:24:31]
manage the property as well
[1:24:32]
right, yes, and so after
[1:24:32]
its lease, it you'll be working
[1:24:33]
with tenants it.
[1:24:35]
Prospective tenants indicate a
[1:24:38]
preference for an individual
[1:24:39]
unit or
[1:24:39]
do they mind a common space
[1:24:40]
well.
[1:24:41]
This what if this gets Lisa
[1:24:43]
somebody would be one company
[1:24:46]
one beat per cent.
[1:24:48]
Would have the whole hangar.
[1:24:49]
Well they would just have don't
[1:24:52]
you want to cut one side.
[1:24:55]
One company won't be to Sept.
[1:24:58]
The less had expired.
[1:25:11]
>> Holly enterprises.
[1:25:26]
Good morning. I.
[1:25:26]
I'm
[1:25:26]
Howard Merle quality
[1:25:27]
enterprises, apf development,
[1:25:30]
the 2827 so relief plane over
[1:25:33]
gray Oaks.
[1:25:34]
Like the first of all.
[1:25:37]
Thank the commission and the
[1:25:38]
staff let us participate in
[1:25:41]
this a solicitation give us the
[1:25:44]
opportunity to be here.
[1:25:45]
Yes
[1:25:46]
actually yesterday was a
[1:25:48]
controlling County doing
[1:25:48]
something similar to this
[1:25:50]
sitting down talking to
[1:25:52]
somebody not for aviation
[1:25:52]
before another business
[1:25:54]
venture. The one thing that we
[1:25:57]
came to a three-man on was it
[1:25:57]
a good business venture knees
[1:25:58]
be a win-win for all parties
[1:26:01]
and if I do my job right here
[1:26:04]
today at the end.
[1:26:07]
At the end this presentation.
[1:26:10]
You should be an agreement that
[1:26:11]
where the right party to work
[1:26:12]
with you and the people
[1:26:15]
Southwest Florida. We provide
[1:26:18]
presentation in 2 or 3 parts.
[1:26:21]
First part is talking about 3
[1:26:22]
that meeting the requirements
[1:26:22]
of the solicitation just the
[1:26:25]
highlights of it and we're not
[1:26:26]
going over the whole proposal
[1:26:26]
is you want to go or death.
[1:26:29]
Then there's some drawings and
[1:26:30]
Matt from a
[1:26:33]
had to leave, but he also did
[1:26:33]
Ares also.
[1:26:36]
And then questions for you
[1:26:38]
guys.
[1:26:41]
First of all it takes time tell
[1:26:44]
you who we are.
[1:26:45]
It when you got up this morning
[1:26:47]
can make coffee. The water that
[1:26:48]
you're to work transportation
[1:26:50]
contractor with the water you
[1:26:53]
drink this morning most likely
[1:26:55]
we touched you though water
[1:26:57]
treatment plant the Wells or
[1:26:58]
the pipes that you doing if you
[1:26:59]
play golf. The other day during
[1:27:01]
the dry season. The irrigation
[1:27:04]
systems and everything we've
[1:27:04]
done that what when I drove
[1:27:07]
here today. I drove across
[1:27:07]
Central Avenue that that
[1:27:08]
beautification project with the
[1:27:11]
roundabouts everything we we
[1:27:14]
did that.
[1:27:17]
You don't do it this weekend
[1:27:18]
because of the weather but you
[1:27:19]
went out you vote last week and
[1:27:20]
looked all the big houses from
[1:27:21]
the water. We dredge most of
[1:27:24]
those canals and in addition to
[1:27:27]
that we use aviation alive.
[1:27:35]
I moved here in 1994. And a
[1:27:38]
watch our planes that out on
[1:27:39]
the ramp that air attack in
[1:27:41]
Naples or they can some inseon
[1:27:42]
one summer decide there's got
[1:27:42]
to be a better way to what
[1:27:45]
we're doing now because a what
[1:27:48]
an one much ramp space.
[1:27:48]
And actually when you want to
[1:27:49]
win over to the facility.
[1:27:51]
There's a little metal building
[1:27:53]
that you guys had little that I
[1:27:56]
had garden Whitman in tractors
[1:27:59]
in the other side the offices.
[1:28:00]
What a match she would do can
[1:28:01]
for the first time. It looked
[1:28:03]
like they'd cleaned out of
[1:28:04]
closet. Mayor
[1:28:07]
So you guys have really come a
[1:28:10]
long way, but we could we got
[1:28:11]
together and work and in a
[1:28:12]
proxy 1996. That we work with
[1:28:14]
look Carol that project and
[1:28:16]
other people.
[1:28:16]
And we did the first apf
[1:28:19]
development private development
[1:28:22]
for you guys that we did
[1:28:23]
the bill for hangers and
[1:28:25]
6,000 square foot office space.
[1:28:28]
And that that it that's got our
[1:28:29]
planes inside
[1:28:30]
and other people's planes
[1:28:31]
inside stuff like that. One
[1:28:32]
long after we did that we were
[1:28:33]
trying to build something for a
[1:28:35]
plea was Clark aviation the
[1:28:37]
freight company and
[1:28:40]
they want in our facility.
[1:28:40]
So they bought ours for from us
[1:28:42]
and then we went over the rail
[1:28:44]
Road. Another sluss Taishan
[1:28:47]
with you guys. Pf 2 next 12
[1:28:50]
years.
[1:28:51]
So and then and that was
[1:28:54]
probably around 2002 thousands
[1:28:57]
to uh I forget
[1:28:58]
and then around I lo
[1:29:01]
2006 7 something like that we
[1:29:04]
we started apf 3 which were
[1:29:04]
finishing up now that started
[1:29:05]
office 12 more hangers but the
[1:29:08]
dew recommendations from staff
[1:29:09]
and everything that the last
[1:29:11]
building so that the planes are
[1:29:13]
getting bigger bigger. They're
[1:29:15]
coming here. So we increased
[1:29:17]
the sides is from a process 60
[1:29:18]
by 60 hangers the 90 by night
[1:29:20]
and that were condition that up
[1:29:23]
now and that project a
[1:29:24]
we've self-funded that
[1:29:25]
ourselves we cable and thing
[1:29:27]
like that. In addition to that
[1:29:29]
in the meantime what we're
[1:29:29]
doing all that that
[1:29:30]
construction for ourselves and
[1:29:31]
the airport. We did a lot of
[1:29:34]
construction for you. We've
[1:29:36]
we've put.
[1:29:39]
The fuel far that we modified
[1:29:40]
the fuel farm, the backup
[1:29:43]
generators here. We just
[1:29:44]
finished or in the
[1:29:47]
process of finishing taxiway b
[1:29:48]
don't other
[1:29:49]
taxiways would build a bunch of
[1:29:50]
tea hangers here. Cleared the
[1:29:51]
all the woods out front
[1:29:53]
interest to the commercial
[1:29:56]
facility.
[1:29:58]
Rental facility in the car wash
[1:29:59]
We you know we have a lot of
[1:30:02]
experience here at the airport
[1:30:05]
in addition to we do
[1:30:05]
much
[1:30:06]
more work outside the airport
[1:30:09]
and in Naples and what it what
[1:30:11]
what benefit is that you guys
[1:30:12]
will first of all. We know what
[1:30:13]
your we've been here for a long
[1:30:14]
time. You know we know how to
[1:30:17]
be a good neighbor. We know the
[1:30:20]
badging system
[1:30:21]
we know the security. We know
[1:30:22]
the design review, we know they
[1:30:25]
would hate we just as well as
[1:30:25]
we know things it took us 7
[1:30:26]
months to get that last
[1:30:28]
permanent that didn't count the
[1:30:31]
design review board,
[1:30:34]
okay, so 7 months of going back
[1:30:36]
and forth different Well, fi
[1:30:37]
restriction all that so that
[1:30:37]
takes a you know a contractor
[1:30:40]
that's been here. You know over
[1:30:40]
20 years
[1:30:41]
7 months and knows the system.
[1:30:44]
It's difficult to take a a new
[1:30:47]
person lot longer to do that.
[1:30:51]
The other advantage is we do
[1:30:54]
most of the workers selves we
[1:30:56]
all the paving the cancri a
[1:30:58]
a lot of the work we don't rely
[1:31:00]
on it. You know one of the
[1:31:02]
overhead doors break, we one of
[1:31:03]
our mechanics out and the
[1:31:05]
candidates trucks and laptops
[1:31:08]
we have over 200 employees.
[1:31:21]
The use of the premises.
[1:31:23]
When we look at the promise of
[1:31:24]
the
[1:31:25]
week as we look at both piece
[1:31:26]
of property. But for what we
[1:31:26]
want to do we didn't really
[1:31:29]
think the bigger piece we
[1:31:30]
thought was more
[1:31:33]
suited for an f the than what
[1:31:34]
we're doing a large fbo soar
[1:31:36]
like what you see Naples jet
[1:31:37]
center. Do now so we looked at
[1:31:38]
the other piece of property and
[1:31:41]
and we did something similar we
[1:31:42]
divide the building up all
[1:31:43]
right. We didn't do it for fire
[1:31:44]
suppression or something like
[1:31:47]
that but more for versatility
[1:31:48]
okay because the
[1:31:50]
when you see are going to we're
[1:31:52]
going to get to the sketches
[1:31:55]
and stuff like that. But it
[1:31:58]
gives you more opportunity.
[1:31:58]
And diversity with the have
[1:32:01]
down the road you guys are
[1:32:03]
going to.
[1:32:05]
Somebody else that you're in it
[1:32:08]
too. So you can put 2 different
[1:32:11]
businesses in it. The offices
[1:32:11]
are designed to the all be used
[1:32:12]
to one or 2 different also and
[1:32:14]
it also prevents a lot to hang
[1:32:15]
a rash because it would you
[1:32:17]
have that big hangar and you
[1:32:18]
move in planes in and out of
[1:32:21]
it's just for for those signs
[1:32:24]
planes. We didn't feel like
[1:32:30]
jets like the gulf stream's and
[1:32:32]
stuff like that. We're
[1:32:34]
we're going to work because out
[1:32:37]
to free year. And and what we
[1:32:38]
did by drawing there.
[1:32:40]
You see that as a counterpoint
[1:32:41]
to that one in the upper right
[1:32:44]
hand corner on the drawing.
[1:32:47]
That's a g 6 that this is all
[1:32:48]
the scale.
[1:32:49]
We've got the software to do
[1:32:51]
all this to scale. I is not
[1:32:53]
that I was in the state where I
[1:32:53]
have to the tail of the plane
[1:32:55]
partially in hangar showing if
[1:32:58]
the nose is right at the object
[1:32:59]
free area. That's where that
[1:33:00]
the tail the plane's going to
[1:33:00]
be is still be sticking.
[1:33:04]
And that's with that hangar boy
[1:33:07]
being 100 feet wide
[1:33:07]
with offices in front of it.
[1:33:08]
We modified it slightly we're
[1:33:09]
open to suggestions. But we
[1:33:11]
went ahead and it was the
[1:33:14]
original drawings 165 feet
[1:33:15]
we've increased to 206 75.
[1:33:16]
Because you only need 50 feet
[1:33:17]
fire clears between the new
[1:33:19]
building that's being built.
[1:33:21]
But we did we did.
[1:33:25]
Pull it back some in order get
[1:33:25]
the
[1:33:26]
extra offices, which everybody
[1:33:26]
wants nobody wants the box
[1:33:28]
inside a the office inside the
[1:33:32]
hangar anymore.
[1:33:35]
We we we wanted to put planes
[1:33:36]
that wouldn't be a nod to free
[1:33:39]
year. But what happens is.
[1:33:40]
The owner says hey Poma
[1:33:41]
the pilot full the plaintiff
[1:33:43]
you about a b there 08:00am he
[1:33:46]
shows up at 10:00am it's been
[1:33:47]
set up to the whole time.
[1:33:48]
So I've got my plane pulled out
[1:33:49]
there Steve over Naples
[1:33:50]
jetsetter says hey I'm putting
[1:33:52]
it might play out from behind
[1:33:55]
you guys write in the way I
[1:33:55]
can't do that. So they were
[1:33:57]
open the door sticking the
[1:33:58]
thing back in or worst case
[1:34:00]
when the guy lands and then he
[1:34:00]
goes pull into his hangar in
[1:34:03]
the back of his 3 hangars that
[1:34:04]
this would be in the lay of the
[1:34:06]
hurts. The new hangar this
[1:34:08]
being built in the one that
[1:34:09]
that Steven them operate out of
[1:34:10]
now the small one in the back
[1:34:12]
of your head. I could see him
[1:34:13]
by trying to text or call and
[1:34:14]
say hey somebody is going to be
[1:34:15]
the plane bounced up with the
[1:34:17]
rain so that's that's kind of
[1:34:19]
why we chose this.
[1:34:20]
This I mean we changed the
[1:34:22]
building the offices from this
[1:34:24]
and what you'll see on the
[1:34:27]
drawings further down. But the
[1:34:30]
hanger sides is like that.
[1:34:30]
The uses of the hangar. I mean
[1:34:34]
we really what the hangar.
[1:34:37]
For us. A.
[1:34:38]
Part one 35,
[1:34:42]
mostly for internal use we do a
[1:34:42]
lot of travel we do a lot to
[1:34:44]
airport work in the Southeast.
[1:34:47]
We worked in Puerto Rico for 5
[1:34:49]
years we work over Panama law
[1:34:51]
that doesn't the water tower in
[1:34:52]
Guantanamo Bay and we use
[1:34:55]
aviation for that. So that's
[1:34:58]
that's
[1:35:01]
we're the customer for ours.
[1:35:06]
And we can come back to that if
[1:35:07]
you have anything else. But
[1:35:10]
well on but I don't want to run
[1:35:13]
out of time.
[1:35:17]
The financial benefits. Dan a a
[1:35:18]
no
[1:35:19]
the rent is such a small
[1:35:22]
component of this only put
[1:35:23]
$0.45 and you do that time to
[1:35:24]
think but the part that you
[1:35:25]
know the are you guys really
[1:35:28]
going to generate revenue is
[1:35:29]
off fuel sales.
[1:35:29]
Okay, and and what we're
[1:35:30]
looking to do different
[1:35:31]
increase are up for us because
[1:35:33]
we want to add another 100
[1:35:36]
people are our operations and
[1:35:38]
they will all be able work
[1:35:39]
here. So we want to add some to
[1:35:40]
similar to midsize jet like the
[1:35:44]
sovereign and a larger
[1:35:47]
turboprop up the beach 1900.
[1:35:51]
What we did was
[1:35:51]
on here you can see when we
[1:35:54]
took some very a conservative
[1:35:55]
numbers will use $300 a year.
[1:35:57]
You know like net jets and then
[1:36:00]
fly like 7.50 or something like
[1:36:01]
that.
[1:36:02]
And did some fuel at at $4 a
[1:36:04]
gallon. And if you sit there
[1:36:05]
projected revenue produces 2
[1:36:05]
planes and that ripped would be
[1:36:08]
almost half half a million
[1:36:11]
dollars a year.
[1:36:17]
The other thing about the
[1:36:18]
financial benefit and this
[1:36:18]
isn't necessary to enable us to
[1:36:20]
the community and which I kind
[1:36:23]
of consider to take everybody
[1:36:24]
into consideration.
[1:36:25]
It all kind of works out for
[1:36:29]
everybody. Everything we do now
[1:36:30]
like what we pay through
[1:36:31]
taxiway d. We have a paper at
[1:36:32]
the time we bought it zoellick
[1:36:34]
25 in the country that runs
[1:36:35]
bite Robotics,
[1:36:38]
somebody like a would carry or
[1:36:39]
s the.
[1:36:40]
It's all put in the model and
[1:36:44]
it's all put in and that paver
[1:36:45]
Hayes
[1:36:46]
off total stations, they
[1:36:48]
actually follows kind of we're
[1:36:50]
watching that that go. I mean
[1:36:52]
the people don't tell the paper
[1:36:55]
what to do anymore. The
[1:36:56]
bulldozers all like that
[1:36:59]
the motor graders, a like that
[1:37:00]
can't Caterpillar which for a
[1:37:03]
big user up. Its goal is to be
[1:37:03]
operator list by 2025. So
[1:37:06]
I mean it might seem unusual to
[1:37:08]
you guys. But hey in
[1:37:11]
10 years from now it wouldn't
[1:37:12]
surprise me
[1:37:15]
if you taking new driverless
[1:37:15]
uber you know passed by our
[1:37:18]
operator list construction site
[1:37:19]
not seeing people will be there
[1:37:19]
she got to have the technical
[1:37:22]
people and then jump into your
[1:37:25]
pilotless plane. It might be
[1:37:27]
scary. But how things have
[1:37:30]
changed the iPhone and but what
[1:37:33]
I'm saying is with the
[1:37:33]
equipment that we use. Now we
[1:37:34]
do a lot of work in this area.
[1:37:36]
But we do a lot of work outside
[1:37:38]
this and you know we pave a lot
[1:37:39]
of runways and unity is not
[1:37:41]
enough in the area. We use the
[1:37:44]
airplanes to get the people
[1:37:47]
there.
[1:37:49]
Back when we worked in of a cut
[1:37:50]
from Katrina New Orleans who
[1:37:50]
worked for 5 years there.
[1:37:53]
We had 2 jets, one people back
[1:37:54]
and forth every week
[1:37:57]
just to get to me just because
[1:37:57]
when you have a disaster
[1:37:59]
like that you go working there,
[1:38:00]
there's many people there work
[1:38:01]
you've got to take your own
[1:38:02]
people there, especially when
[1:38:04]
you start get involved with all
[1:38:06]
this technology. So that's
[1:38:07]
truly what we're trying to do
[1:38:08]
we we need we need the hangar.
[1:38:10]
So that we can add another 100
[1:38:13]
jobs.
[1:38:22]
The folly of the development.
[1:38:24]
You know we've been I I've
[1:38:27]
worked in this airport after
[1:38:28]
the Hurricanes I picked up
[1:38:30]
rowling doors by full doors.
[1:38:31]
All different things we've seen
[1:38:32]
everything that that kind of
[1:38:33]
destroys the hangars here a
[1:38:36]
foot planes right side up and
[1:38:39]
work with Ron and
[1:38:40]
it all in. I'm not a big fan of
[1:38:41]
the rolling doors, not a big
[1:38:42]
fan of the the by full doors,
[1:38:43]
what happens in the hurricane.
[1:38:46]
When you get that negative
[1:38:48]
pressure. The roof lives up
[1:38:51]
okay. And in the rolling door.
[1:38:54]
The bottom is hanging in the
[1:38:55]
air. And you do have pins
[1:38:56]
the locket if that if people
[1:38:58]
remember a lock it or and if
[1:38:59]
the pens are long enough for
[1:39:01]
the bill that the the Ritz much
[1:39:04]
as 6 inches. And then when that
[1:39:05]
wind blows it that's what we're
[1:39:07]
picking up grow indoors.
[1:39:08]
You know
[1:39:08]
500 feet from what you know the
[1:39:10]
hangar. The by full doors are a
[1:39:11]
little bit better but we're
[1:39:15]
working on this. The single
[1:39:16]
panel doors
[1:39:19]
that are hydraulically operated
[1:39:19]
so even if
[1:39:22]
the guy doesn't put the pins in
[1:39:24]
there that that you'd have to
[1:39:25]
offset those Hydraulic
[1:39:26]
cylinders which a win would
[1:39:26]
never do. You know other things
[1:39:29]
we do is we increased the
[1:39:31]
concrete stuff.
[1:39:33]
Higher specifications so you
[1:39:36]
don't have that spider cracking
[1:39:37]
down the road. We put
[1:39:38]
5 or mention it so you don't do
[1:39:41]
that the sub base underneath
[1:39:42]
that we use crush countries to
[1:39:44]
the sand that when they were
[1:39:44]
talking about that what
[1:39:47]
whatever we talk about how the
[1:39:48]
everything was going to flood
[1:39:50]
and we were fortunate enough
[1:39:51]
not to have it. He was that you
[1:39:53]
know that type of sub great
[1:39:54]
would resist the undermining
[1:39:56]
the new the hangars and stuff
[1:39:56]
like that. And that's I mean
[1:39:57]
there's a lot of other things
[1:40:00]
that through the years we've
[1:40:02]
changed in our hangers yet.
[1:40:05]
And we use local vendors.
[1:40:06]
Well I'm not Ohio are
[1:40:07]
wherever erected to but all
[1:40:09]
those people are we used in
[1:40:11]
steel metal buildings used them
[1:40:13]
all the time. Last hurricane
[1:40:14]
came a gutter strapper it.
[1:40:17]
They came down fixed, you know
[1:40:20]
and so and we
[1:40:23]
do that not only for the.
[1:40:25]
You know for the the metal
[1:40:26]
building but most of the
[1:40:27]
vendors we use a lot and we use
[1:40:29]
a lot of vendors locally so we
[1:40:30]
have a lot of I guess you'd say
[1:40:32]
poll, you know when people are
[1:40:35]
trying to do one hangar a new
[1:40:36]
one. You know if
[1:40:39]
we need to my to design
[1:40:39]
something
[1:40:40]
typically there when the design
[1:40:43]
duo designed built with us on a
[1:40:46]
much bigger prize.
[1:40:49]
Nhk was an architect which
[1:40:49]
he said he's doing the you
[1:40:51]
know the latest and greatest.
[1:40:55]
We also cut coordinate with the
[1:40:56]
Naples jet center so
[1:40:59]
ours is the same style is
[1:41:00]
theirs.
[1:41:03]
The financial capability of our
[1:41:04]
company.
[1:41:06]
I mean we do over $60 million a
[1:41:08]
year with the companies.
[1:41:11]
We have huge funding, you know
[1:41:14]
we do roads bridges.
[1:41:16]
We're We we've done of much of
[1:41:18]
aviation we just finished doing
[1:41:18]
a $25 million expansion Hilton
[1:41:19]
head but we extended the runway
[1:41:22]
for commercial traffic a lot of
[1:41:22]
other stuff.
[1:41:27]
We have a 20 to $20 million
[1:41:27]
paving contract at the Marine
[1:41:29]
Corps base open Buford a do
[1:41:30]
paving for them.
[1:41:31]
I mean really I mean this
[1:41:33]
project is what probably 2
[1:41:34]
or $3 million it pretty small
[1:41:37]
for us. It's a very important.
[1:41:40]
But financially it's it's I
[1:41:41]
mean we wouldn't the bar at the
[1:41:43]
one we're finishing up we're
[1:41:47]
not.
[1:41:51]
We and we do
[1:41:54]
understand with the costs or to
[1:41:55]
build here. It's not like we're
[1:41:55]
in or in this case. I can tell
[1:41:57]
you that you be in for a rude
[1:41:58]
awakening if you never built
[1:42:01]
anything here before. So we do
[1:42:04]
understand that.
[1:42:13]
References and we list.
[1:42:16]
We've and we do.
[1:42:19]
We've done over $60 million
[1:42:22]
worth of work and the airport
[1:42:23]
for you guys for.
[1:42:24]
Developers of over the 20
[1:42:27]
years. And we do more than that
[1:42:30]
every year construction.
[1:42:37]
I guess really uh I mean.
[1:42:40]
For questions a little bit
[1:42:43]
spend on I knew it.
[1:42:50]
Really
[1:42:51]
this get you guys do so in
[1:42:52]
parts of one of our that show
[1:42:55]
in the 2 buildings on it as
[1:42:58]
laid out for.
[1:43:04]
One on the right there.
[1:43:08]
And that's that show a
[1:43:11]
challenger 3.51 large midsize
[1:43:14]
jet.
[1:43:27]
That's that's the offices
[1:43:31]
and like I said the offices are
[1:43:34]
designs that you can.
[1:43:35]
You lock that door so
[1:43:38]
they want to do you so that the
[1:43:41]
rest of drought in the open.
[1:43:41]
Or you can use it always was I
[1:43:44]
think that a nice job on that.
[1:43:47]
That's an overhead to 2 side by
[1:43:50]
side in an example what they
[1:43:53]
could be.
[1:44:01]
That's a Frontage of the of the
[1:44:02]
office space like I said trying
[1:44:05]
to use what but the tract of in
[1:44:08]
southwest Florida.
[1:44:21]
Over 7. Craig to to to go.
[1:44:24]
Part of the unit 2.
[1:44:29]
That arms and you correct it.
[1:44:32]
2 roads would be yours.
[1:44:34]
Brett the space to the elders
[1:44:34]
that.
[1:44:37]
That's just that's uses of
[1:44:37]
example, what
[1:44:40]
you could put in there. At
[1:44:42]
least 2 of them would be ours
[1:44:45]
whether we use one or 2.
[1:44:46]
I mean I we've got numbers
[1:44:47]
you know to show you mine if
[1:44:49]
they will see from there.
[1:44:52]
But first us and that one is
[1:44:54]
citation x o and very 300 c j
[1:44:56]
one and I think that's another
[1:44:57]
siege, a one a. There's a those
[1:44:58]
are just some examples because
[1:45:01]
when we look at this we're
[1:45:02]
looking about our use
[1:45:04]
you know you know maybe 25
[1:45:04]
years down the road somebody
[1:45:05]
else we have this anger.
[1:45:08]
So we want to create something
[1:45:08]
that's take that great for
[1:45:11]
us, but a white whale for
[1:45:11]
everybody else.
[1:45:14]
>> I'm a little bit confused
[1:45:16]
about that too.
[1:45:20]
You talked a lot about you need
[1:45:22]
a facility for your own use.
[1:45:25]
But also in your. I didn't seen
[1:45:26]
in your proposal but in the
[1:45:28]
other parts, your presentation.
[1:45:32]
You have proposed uses
[1:45:32]
Charles a charter shuttle
[1:45:33]
service is with one committed
[1:45:36]
party is that uss at to you ok
[1:45:39]
and then and another when you
[1:45:40]
talk about the financial
[1:45:43]
benefits to the n a a you have
[1:45:46]
one charter midsize jet.
[1:45:51]
2 charted turboprops. Is that
[1:45:52]
us both us ok so that's not
[1:45:53]
okay so then what's the other
[1:45:56]
piece of this. The other side
[1:45:58]
of it.
[1:45:58]
Yeah.
[1:45:59]
Like weather weather weather.
[1:46:00]
The other side is used for
[1:46:03]
something else or whether it we
[1:46:06]
you know he's its tickets.
[1:46:08]
More for private planes whether
[1:46:11]
it's just you know we add
[1:46:14]
another player night.
[1:46:15]
We we have
[1:46:16]
a lot of contacts here. You
[1:46:17]
know we have another party this
[1:46:19]
interest in doing maintenance
[1:46:22]
out of it.
[1:46:25]
And we don't have any problem
[1:46:28]
seen about still enough.
[1:46:32]
>> Highest and best use a
[1:46:35]
specify for Kyra shul.
[1:46:38]
Intend to use it for your own.
[1:46:45]
>> We're putting it into an
[1:46:47]
apartment one 35 is also hoping
[1:46:48]
to the chart uses a charter
[1:46:50]
addition, so it would be your
[1:46:51]
aircraft that would be used as
[1:46:52]
charter.
[1:46:55]
Service available to the pump
[1:46:58]
exactly.
[1:47:03]
>> I mean that's I mean that's
[1:47:05]
deathly on the low side if you
[1:47:06]
if you if you look at numbers
[1:47:07]
for charter service isn't it
[1:47:08]
typical charter what's the run
[1:47:09]
the thing between 506 or ours.
[1:47:12]
The reason we use the low
[1:47:15]
amount of hours because
[1:47:18]
I just I wanted to to under
[1:47:19]
promise and over deliver.
[1:47:21]
You know I could around and
[1:47:22]
said oh we're going to 100 a
[1:47:24]
million dollars worth of fuel
[1:47:26]
sales a year but I don't I
[1:47:26]
don't want to do that was this
[1:47:29]
something that I think is a
[1:47:30]
minimal a realistic thing
[1:47:32]
to happen.
[1:47:34]
So then along with that with
[1:47:34]
you proposed to sell the other
[1:47:37]
unit were lease it out to
[1:47:40]
another business.
[1:47:41]
>> I wasn't looking to sell it.
[1:47:42]
I mean we've met with a you
[1:47:44]
know we were looking to use it
[1:47:45]
for the
[1:47:46]
commercial operations that you
[1:47:47]
guys requested.
[1:47:49]
And that's where I'm going to
[1:47:51]
I'm I'm thinking heist and this
[1:47:52]
uses well and wondering where
[1:47:55]
the revenue to date is is going
[1:47:57]
to come from.
[1:47:57]
To the airport. Yes. From us
[1:48:01]
would be from fuel sales right,
[1:48:03]
right
[1:48:05]
and rain threat of rent.
[1:48:06]
If you look at rates of smoking
[1:48:09]
has it all came over fly it a
[1:48:09]
small you
[1:48:12]
know it's to the size of the
[1:48:13]
property.
[1:48:15]
I spent fuel cells. Obviously
[1:48:17]
right ahead doesn't matter with
[1:48:17]
them here that we work up there
[1:48:18]
the signature but it but it's
[1:48:21]
how best you use the facility
[1:48:22]
that right.
[1:48:25]
>> Active it is or how idol it
[1:48:26]
is so.
[1:48:29]
That's what risk in the
[1:48:30]
question and what we're looking
[1:48:32]
to do just let you know is have
[1:48:35]
a plane leave taking crews to
[1:48:36]
different places
[1:48:36]
then the plane to pick up the
[1:48:37]
crews that are already at those
[1:48:41]
places and bring them back to
[1:48:44]
the round Robin. Both ways.
[1:48:47]
Said Sheriff, the
[1:48:49]
>> We've had a number
[1:48:52]
of enquiries from a charter
[1:48:53]
operators and aircraft
[1:48:55]
management companies that are
[1:48:57]
desperately some of the macbook
[1:48:58]
condo hangars and understanding
[1:48:59]
that they can't conduct their
[1:48:59]
this is from there. But the
[1:49:01]
store an airplane there May be
[1:49:03]
of a small office they pull air
[1:49:06]
after word of the f b o there
[1:49:09]
are a number of charter.
[1:49:12]
You're successful businesses
[1:49:13]
looking for
[1:49:16]
hangars that situated like
[1:49:17]
these pad sites are
[1:49:19]
and so are in 10 ton issuing
[1:49:19]
the r p for hysen that's used
[1:49:22]
for commercial operations was
[1:49:25]
with that.
[1:49:33]
To a degree it's and it's
[1:49:34]
nothing against q leader Howard
[1:49:37]
he does a great job with every
[1:49:39]
project he's done here.
[1:49:41]
It's just it's hard how do we
[1:49:42]
different if we're trying to
[1:49:44]
evaluate highest and best use.
[1:49:46]
He's getting used air this
[1:49:46]
hangers the aircraft for his
[1:49:49]
own business purpose in for
[1:49:51]
charter. We are not
[1:49:52]
we don't want to get involved
[1:49:54]
in splitting hairs and say how
[1:49:55]
many hours for this how many
[1:49:56]
hours for that in order to
[1:49:58]
determine compliance with the
[1:50:01]
minimum standards it's either
[1:50:03]
come that I consider a company
[1:50:03]
such as one of our other
[1:50:06]
corporate tenants to be private
[1:50:09]
that's private. It's not
[1:50:11]
offering services available to
[1:50:12]
the public where is a charter
[1:50:14]
company as a website phone
[1:50:15]
number call a son. It's just it
[1:50:16]
that's it I appreciate what
[1:50:18]
he's proposing is a hybrid
[1:50:21]
model.
[1:50:25]
Outside of our into.
[1:50:26]
>> I'd like to comment on
[1:50:29]
that I mean it will be a part
[1:50:32]
one 35 operation. I mean
[1:50:33]
quality will just the one of
[1:50:34]
the companies that use
[1:50:35]
customers it's not I mean we
[1:50:38]
have a company's this will be
[1:50:41]
in qualities name.
[1:50:44]
So I do beg to differ on that.
[1:50:46]
think the difference is I have
[1:50:49]
somebody that the you know that
[1:50:50]
willing to put 2 planes here
[1:50:53]
and in China and you not like
[1:50:53]
you said I hear a lot
[1:50:56]
about charter companies who
[1:50:57]
want to do stuff, I've been in
[1:50:58]
the aviation business for a
[1:50:58]
long time a lot and we'll talk
[1:50:59]
a lot about what they want to
[1:51:02]
do, but they don't have the
[1:51:05]
money to do it. Okay.
[1:51:06]
>> I found that
[1:51:07]
my experience to be less so the
[1:51:10]
case at Naples and more so the
[1:51:11]
case said perhaps some other
[1:51:12]
Mark. They certainly get called
[1:51:15]
tire kickers he retired and
[1:51:18]
here. So.
[1:51:31]
We're in the clients.
[1:51:40]
Well I understand the to some
[1:51:42]
kind of see how from the
[1:51:46]
airport.
[1:51:51]
If the revenue stream to the
[1:51:54]
airport.
[1:52:05]
That is the key
[1:52:06]
so yes, the airport authority
[1:52:08]
needs to be financially
[1:52:10]
self-sustaining but we also as
[1:52:13]
we just spoke about in the
[1:52:14]
strategic plan
[1:52:15]
need to ensure that word
[1:52:17]
responding to what the market
[1:52:20]
is providing an airport
[1:52:21]
facilities and services
[1:52:21]
is responding to customer to
[1:52:22]
and we know there's tremendous
[1:52:25]
demand for charter in this
[1:52:28]
smart.
[1:52:32]
And that's what we feel like
[1:52:33]
we're providing a me if we can
[1:52:35]
meet that standards by saying
[1:52:38]
we have the aircraft Washington
[1:52:39]
company in there too.
[1:52:39]
With that provides 0 fuel.
[1:52:41]
We could say that we've met
[1:52:44]
that standard by putting a
[1:52:45]
maintenance facility in there
[1:52:47]
which would add 0 fuel. So I
[1:52:50]
love and I'm thinking is what
[1:52:53]
we're proposing is a win-win.
[1:52:54]
New in that when those to the
[1:52:57]
way that you would oppose rent
[1:53:00]
was $0.45 a square foot is.
[1:53:02]
Right. So that is the
[1:53:02]
lowest propose for rent as
[1:53:03]
well. We're we're open to that
[1:53:04]
because it that such a minor
[1:53:07]
thing in the overall scheme of
[1:53:09]
it, I mean we need to act
[1:53:10]
the hangar space for that not
[1:53:13]
only the charter put to the to
[1:53:16]
move people in and out of
[1:53:16]
Naples
[1:53:18]
where do you currently operate
[1:53:18]
your aircraft. Right now what
[1:53:21]
we do were over Naples
[1:53:24]
jetsetter.
[1:53:26]
You have one aircraft currently
[1:53:29]
currently we've we had numerous
[1:53:32]
ones we probably had 3 of 4
[1:53:35]
jets here. 2 or 3 turboprops.
[1:53:38]
You depend on on the demand.
[1:53:41]
We have one jet now.
[1:53:48]
No no word up and up of an
[1:53:48]
airplane
[1:53:49]
that that that that that that's
[1:53:52]
for that that's more for
[1:53:53]
corporate
[1:53:54]
news we're no we're going to
[1:53:56]
I'm a got that that our jet is
[1:53:56]
not going in that's more for
[1:53:58]
corporate news, what's going on
[1:53:59]
here. And we're going by 2
[1:54:02]
points. You know and that's
[1:54:03]
what happened when charter.
[1:54:06]
Our charter that through
[1:54:09]
somebody else.
[1:54:16]
Come depends on the size of the
[1:54:18]
Plains.
[1:54:20]
>> Would you accept a
[1:54:21]
commercial only lease. That's
[1:54:24]
what you said that the way the
[1:54:25]
rules are written and just
[1:54:25]
clarify again.
[1:54:28]
And that's what I thought we
[1:54:29]
were doing.
[1:54:32]
And we have leases on other
[1:54:36]
pieces.
[1:54:51]
>> Their son out there.
[1:54:56]
It it says
[1:54:59]
Every kid here who chose the 2
[1:55:02]
people.
[1:55:06]
>> There's 2 is the Sunni the
[1:55:08]
Iranians receive responded to
[1:55:11]
the.
[1:55:18]
>> Naples
[1:55:20]
care center jet senator
[1:55:21]
responded the parcel parcel one
[1:55:22]
into right there now.
[1:55:24]
Just porcelain there which is
[1:55:27]
personal one.
[1:55:33]
They were just porcelain ok.
[1:55:36]
Trying to be fair do we have
[1:55:39]
any questions for Kiwi.
[1:55:43]
Good I'm here with so much.
[1:55:46]
Thank you for that opportunity
[1:55:49]
have you early.
[1:55:54]
But we're ready to
[1:55:57]
any questions for crestor we're
[1:56:00]
ready to do the ranking.
[1:56:15]
And some of them still.
[1:56:19]
>> His mind or used to say when
[1:56:22]
she was about 5 on the stand e.
[1:56:25]
And I.
[1:56:29]
>> I'm still sorting through it
[1:56:32]
myself.
[1:56:35]
The problem is that it is in
[1:56:38]
Atlanta. Israel he Mister Morel
[1:56:41]
even said as much.
[1:56:44]
So I think.
[1:56:47]
Marshall least that it would
[1:56:50]
commercial use that site.
[1:56:52]
Why saying that but commercial
[1:56:53]
in the sense that it would be
[1:56:54]
serving his own company, it's
[1:56:57]
gets down a splitting hairs and
[1:56:58]
uh.
[1:56:59]
Commercial user with a
[1:57:01]
marketing and advertising to
[1:57:01]
them public.
[1:57:04]
I don't think that point was so
[1:57:07]
clear.
[1:57:26]
I can think
[1:57:27]
of at least 2
[1:57:30]
operating number of aircraft.
[1:57:31]
Not based in
[1:57:32]
Naples but had a significant
[1:57:33]
market in Naples inquiring
[1:57:35]
asking us for availability of
[1:57:38]
Hank.
[1:57:41]
Couple leaves that none of them
[1:57:43]
are really suitable because
[1:57:45]
most
[1:57:46]
of which several which are in
[1:57:46]
condominium complexes which do
[1:57:49]
not permit commercial
[1:57:52]
activities. We had.
[1:57:55]
Individual condominium units
[1:57:58]
and various complexes many of
[1:57:58]
which she we developed.
[1:58:01]
None of those permit
[1:58:03]
commercial.
[1:58:04]
With the location of these pad
[1:58:05]
sites the highest and best use
[1:58:08]
as for service is available to.
[1:58:12]
And so there are a lot of other
[1:58:15]
hangers on the air or from
[1:58:17]
which an entity.
[1:58:20]
It's the shuttle for its own
[1:58:21]
company employees Mister Morel
[1:58:22]
spoke specifically to that and
[1:58:23]
they can conduct that activity
[1:58:25]
from any one of those
[1:58:28]
condominium had.
[1:58:33]
And as we define an arm
[1:58:33]
minimum standards, the key
[1:58:36]
distinguishing factors making
[1:58:39]
services.
[1:59:06]
And for a Saudi candid.
[1:59:08]
I don't want to be in the
[1:59:12]
business of. Splitting those
[1:59:15]
hairs.
[1:59:15]
There's no good way
[1:59:18]
for us is the Air Force
[1:59:21]
sponsor.
[1:59:38]
You know as a a Ford you have
[1:59:39]
to take into
[1:59:40]
consideration all a factor so
[1:59:41]
clearly for us and the rfp
[1:59:44]
document made clear that there
[1:59:48]
is great importance placed
[1:59:49]
on the ice and that's you so
[1:59:50]
clearly in to make your
[1:59:51]
decision you need to take that
[1:59:53]
into consideration along with
[1:59:54]
all the other factors also
[1:59:57]
consider he offered
[2:00:00]
significantly lower.
[2:00:07]
So you this would be a canned.
[2:00:14]
It's for their own
[2:00:17]
private company use land urban
[2:00:20]
structures.
[2:00:25]
This is a little bit of a high.
[2:00:30]
>> ok are we ready to discuss
[2:00:34]
the rankings.
[2:00:45]
Clearly it is so Lance the.
[2:00:47]
It is
[2:00:50]
a group are strong presentation
[2:00:54]
interview experience uh
[2:00:56]
the community.
[2:00:57]
Foreign trips, truth. And with
[2:01:00]
this last issue a really crowds
[2:01:03]
for me.
[2:01:05]
And into law.
[2:01:06]
He said it was in significant,
[2:01:08]
maybe even some of his company
[2:01:12]
it isn't clear, but that means
[2:01:15]
something to us.
[2:01:18]
We have not been able to for is
[2:01:21]
all. All right go marcheline
[2:01:24]
has a.
[2:01:36]
I tell you one thing that.
[2:01:45]
One thing I was pleased with
[2:01:48]
their full.
[2:02:09]
These 2 very visible.
[2:02:12]
So lucky.
[2:02:39]
>> The reasonable for you to
[2:02:42]
ask Marco hangers whether he.
[2:02:48]
If he'd be willing to.
[2:03:21]
What what I brought up wasn't
[2:03:24]
presentation.
[2:03:27]
Renditions and so on.
[2:03:47]
>> I I just feel like and
[2:03:50]
being it says these are 2 new
[2:03:53]
parcels into new
[2:04:11]
Absolutely want to make it the
[2:04:14]
same. Yes.
[2:04:17]
Okay a then if you have any
[2:04:20]
other discussion I would just
[2:04:23]
suggest that for you.
[2:04:30]
But after on any of your
[2:04:33]
discussion. Any other.
[2:04:58]
When I reviewed the
[2:05:01]
application. I was blown away
[2:05:04]
uh by.
[2:05:05]
Power of everything you get
[2:05:06]
you.
[2:05:09]
Anze into the dew.
[2:05:12]
My feeling was.
[2:05:15]
He should be building it.
[2:05:22]
He's good for engineer.
[2:05:25]
At a presentation
[2:05:28]
he filled in.
[2:05:36]
All these fancy lasers to that
[2:05:39]
actually Renee a.
[2:05:51]
I've got to to women.
[2:05:54]
>> Could could I address uh
[2:05:57]
yes, Sir, okay, then.
[2:05:58]
I mean just like Marco was
[2:05:59]
given that opportunity to say
[2:06:02]
that they a change the look the
[2:06:04]
look like the one we designed.
[2:06:05]
I mean maybe I misunderstood
[2:06:06]
the solicitation we don't have
[2:06:10]
to put our facility in there.
[2:06:12]
I mean I would we can do.
[2:06:15]
Charter like Chris wants with a
[2:06:17]
you know I I said that we would
[2:06:17]
follow the part one 35 and mean
[2:06:20]
that's fine with people that
[2:06:23]
are points in there.
[2:06:24]
It would you know that when the
[2:06:25]
original presentation we said
[2:06:28]
that we we we we are talking to
[2:06:29]
somebody else
[2:06:30]
who wants to use it for planes
[2:06:30]
and maintenance. And I'm
[2:06:31]
perfectly fine with that with
[2:06:33]
the stipulation we will put our
[2:06:36]
stuff in there. I
[2:06:36]
just I misunderstood because we
[2:06:40]
were doing it as a part one 35.
[2:06:42]
I thought we
[2:06:43]
would be one of the customers
[2:06:44]
but I have no problem must not
[2:06:44]
be one of the customers we have
[2:06:47]
we have other hand we can work
[2:06:47]
out.
[2:06:50]
I just want to I just would
[2:06:53]
make that.
[2:07:24]
I mean that's part of the
[2:07:27]
police say.
[2:07:44]
>> Still retain ownership
[2:07:45]
or would you sell units like
[2:07:47]
you traditionally do have done
[2:07:48]
in your other developments that
[2:07:49]
that's a different model.
[2:07:51]
I mean that's it with on those
[2:07:54]
the Internet.
[2:07:54]
That's a development that to
[2:07:55]
buy and sell it would no we're
[2:07:58]
not looking for that will look
[2:08:01]
into a lease it out.
[2:08:08]
>> Because you have done sense
[2:08:11]
of the psyche.
[2:08:15]
Absolutely that what we
[2:08:16]
eat angers and stuff like that
[2:08:17]
doesn't mean obviously we built
[2:08:18]
ourselves over 25 years on here
[2:08:21]
so they Dole sell you know we
[2:08:24]
you know with a gun.
[2:08:28]
No we definitely a pilot.
[2:08:31]
You know I thought $200 myself
[2:08:34]
out
[2:08:38]
I just I just want to make e
[2:08:38]
if there was a misunderstanding
[2:08:40]
my parks, I thought I was
[2:08:43]
meeting that I to to know that
[2:08:43]
you have some fuel sales.
[2:08:45]
But you know if Chris has some
[2:08:48]
charter companies that want to
[2:08:51]
put their planes in there.
[2:08:54]
And like I said we are
[2:08:55]
talking to another company this
[2:08:58]
interest it lease out the whole
[2:09:01]
facility to.
[2:09:04]
So you're going to run this
[2:09:07]
business the fb o k.
[2:09:10]
You know I I have to
[2:09:13]
tell you that we have 200
[2:09:14]
people I mean there's we
[2:09:14]
probably have 10 or 20 in our
[2:09:17]
staff right now they could do
[2:09:20]
that.
[2:09:30]
They they they do a
[2:09:32]
typical like it an f where they
[2:09:33]
do that
[2:09:35]
the airplane storage and they
[2:09:36]
do the airplane maintenance.
[2:09:39]
You know obviously the can to
[2:09:42]
an airplane point fueling.
[2:09:45]
The line service
[2:09:54]
I hope that.
[2:09:59]
Helps clarify so that was a
[2:10:00]
little bit cloudy but we
[2:10:01]
definitely will follow the
[2:10:02]
rules and regulations so just
[2:10:04]
scratch. We think that what I
[2:10:06]
suggested was a hybrid.
[2:10:09]
When did the same exact thing
[2:10:12]
the other 2 are doing.
[2:10:28]
>> Soon but he didn't make.
[2:10:49]
The I tell you one thing.
[2:11:44]
You know like it's not an easy
[2:11:48]
out to us now.
[2:12:00]
It's
[2:12:01]
relatively new Year and the
[2:12:02]
Naples area but up north he's
[2:12:05]
run.
[2:12:08]
B o's and.
[2:12:49]
I guess when I look at your
[2:12:52]
your income statement.
[2:12:59]
>> Investment bankers, this is
[2:13:02]
for polls right now I
[2:13:03]
now I understand it. But what
[2:13:03]
that indicates to me also is
[2:13:06]
you know you look at the value
[2:13:09]
look at.
[2:13:14]
And I guess that's true of
[2:13:16]
every business person, you
[2:13:18]
know.
[2:13:21]
I guess my question is I guess
[2:13:22]
you know
[2:13:25]
quality enterprises could be
[2:13:28]
looking at the same thing.
[2:13:32]
Imagine you probably want to do
[2:13:33]
that is your do you have like a
[2:13:35]
five-year plan for this are you
[2:13:38]
feel like you're going to.
[2:14:38]
Don't change look.
[2:14:39]
Cent you can send mebody to
[2:14:42]
be James throughout my whole
[2:14:45]
life hausen draw. There's no
[2:14:48]
record not so.
[2:15:06]
Okay, she's right.
[2:15:09]
Yet this is a really difficult
[2:15:11]
decision I think
[2:15:14]
I agree with my fellow
[2:15:17]
commissioners I think for me.
[2:15:18]
It's all about highest and best
[2:15:21]
use that's what this. He was
[2:15:24]
all about.
[2:15:27]
While it is true.
[2:15:30]
The lease revenue whoa where
[2:15:34]
near
[2:15:34]
what the fuel revenue is I
[2:15:36]
appreciate the intent. In what
[2:15:37]
Mister Mister Fatah she has
[2:15:40]
brought forward in his $0.55
[2:15:41]
per square foot.
[2:15:44]
That's the intent is not in
[2:15:47]
significant in my my.
[2:15:51]
appreciate his his flexibility
[2:15:53]
and the design as well. This
[2:15:56]
with this is really tough and I
[2:15:57]
I really appreciate she worries
[2:16:00]
a proposal and also your
[2:16:02]
flexibility. But I think that I
[2:16:03]
agree with my fellow
[2:16:06]
commissioners. I think we have
[2:16:08]
a consensus.
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Well we we need a motion I
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guess you know notion.
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So we need
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2.
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I'm Marco hangers
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ranking number one.
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Ranking
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number 2 for parcel to.
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Are make that motion.
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>> And Mister Leonhardt second
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Mister Russo own favor signify
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by saying aye
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are a motion carries
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unanimously thank you thank you
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everyone who participated in
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all your proposals we greatly
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appreciate.
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And this meeting
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is where 3 do that just for the
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record. Yes, it sure there's no
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public comment. Ok is there any
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public comment. Okay
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this meeting is Karen. Thank
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you.