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[5:29] we'll now bring the August 7th 2024 city

[5:32] council uh meeting to order uh call upon

[5:35] the City attorney is there any

[5:37] reportable action no reportable action

[5:39] Mr Mayor thank you

[5:41] sir we'll now have the Pledge of

[5:43] Allegiance led by council member Berwin

[5:51] Hannah ready to

[5:53] begin Al to the of the United States of

[5:57] America to the for it stands

[6:03] na

[6:06] andice we'll now have the invocation by

[6:10] associate pastor Lazaro Santiago Beacon

[6:12] Hill Assembly of God good evening sir I

[6:14] don't think we've met before

[6:25] welcome peaceful and quiet lives in all

[6:28] godliness and Holiness this is good and

[6:31] pleases God our savior Heavenly Father

[6:34] we thank you for our city thank you for

[6:36] our elected and appointed officials the

[6:38] businesses the churches the families and

[6:40] the individuals that make our city the

[6:42] great place that it is I pray for this

[6:44] council meeting tonight give the council

[6:46] members wisdom and guidance as they

[6:49] deliberate on the items before them may

[6:51] every decision be righteous in your

[6:53] sight for our benefit and For Your Glory

[6:56] Almighty one I thank you for this

[6:58] meeting today Lord Lord there is an

[7:00] agenda and we ask that your Holy Spirit

[7:02] lead and direct all discussions that

[7:04] take place during this council meeting I

[7:06] pray that you will use the skills and

[7:08] abilities within each of our council

[7:10] members and participating citizens to

[7:13] accomplish the task set before us help

[7:15] us to remain positive in all decisions

[7:17] made and to maintain peace and Good Will

[7:19] towards each other God bless our great

[7:22] city of Norco in the name of the father

[7:24] and of the son and of the holy spirit

[7:26] amen thank you Mr sanago

[7:37] I'm going to bring up Joe holspa

[7:40] Joe here tonight there you

[7:51] go all

[7:57] right so I'm president of nor horse week

[8:00] uh we wanted to uh and thank you for

[8:03] giving us the opportunity uh to present

[8:05] some checks ceremonial checks to some of

[8:08] our larger donations we were fortunate

[8:10] enough to be able to contribute to this

[8:13] year uh for those of you don't know

[8:15] Norco horse week is a nonprofit

[8:18] organization we're run by volunteers

[8:20] strictly volunteers uh and everything

[8:23] that excuse me that we make and don't

[8:26] Reserve back to run our event for the

[8:28] next year we donate back out to uh local

[8:31] city organizations and uh some of the

[8:34] city uh departments itself uh we could

[8:37] not do this event without the help of

[8:40] the city and the city council and uh

[8:44] most importantly our

[8:45] volunteers so I won't take up too much

[8:47] your time uh but if I could have up uh

[8:51] Melvin Sparks please uh he'll be

[8:53] accepting on behalf of animal control

[8:56] and nart

[9:00] how you

[9:01] doing good

[9:14] good so we were able to donate $10,000

[9:17] to the animal shelter and uh $4,000 to

[9:24] nart you get both

[9:30] thank you so

[9:31] much thank you all right next can I

[9:35] please have the representative for Norco

[9:38] seniors and

[9:39] [Music]

[9:49] pets so would you like to say a little

[9:51] bit about your

[9:53] organization what you guys do Norco

[9:56] seniors and pets has been around Norco

[9:58] since 19 1989 and we help low-income

[10:01] seniors here in town we um help them

[10:04] with food we help them with uh pet

[10:06] expenses we U get donations of dog food

[10:10] and just try to help them

[10:13] out so as you can see a very worthwhile

[10:15] organization so we always like to give

[10:17] what we can uh so we're proud to be able

[10:20] to donate uh believe

[10:22] 10,000 to the Norco seniors and pets

[10:37] Here's the the real

[10:45] check thank thank you very

[10:47] much thank you thank you for all you

[10:50] guys

[10:53] do all right if we could have please a

[10:56] representative for the senior center

[10:58] it's uh Alejandra Gonzalez and Cindy

[11:06] Garcia so uh senior Center's always been

[11:10] an important Organization for uh uh a

[11:14] horse week right uh everybody gets old

[11:17] it's nice to give somewhere for

[11:19] everybody to go and enjoy so uh we were

[11:23] lucky enough to be able to donate

[11:24] $110,000 to the senior center this year

[11:42] thank you thank

[11:44] you uh and last but not least uh we have

[11:50] FFA so FFA every year uh I've been a

[11:56] part of horse week now uh for the better

[11:59] part of 20 years and for as long as I've

[12:02] been around I've known they've helped

[12:03] they've been a huge help and they

[12:05] increase every year so we're happy to be

[12:08] able to donate $10,000 to the FFA this

[12:10] year thank you

[12:14] [Laughter]

[12:34] uh so that's all I have for this year we

[12:36] did donate uh to several other

[12:39] organizations that helped us but I don't

[12:40] want to take up your whole night uh

[12:42] thank you for allowing us to present

[12:44] those and I look forward to next year

[12:46] thank you Joe appreciate

[12:49] [Applause]

[12:53] it so now we're going to call upon

[12:55] director Hamilton city of Norco mounting

[12:57] block pilot project

[13:04] good evening city council so tonight I

[13:07] have a presentation on the horse

[13:08] mounting block pilot project in our city

[13:15] parks you work

[13:27] good thank thank

[13:29] you this year the city has aligned with

[13:32] the community-based initiative Norco

[13:35] Mount up Mission

[13:37] 2024 this initiative advocates for

[13:39] placing safe mounting Platforms in local

[13:41] parks and business

[13:43] centers Maria pase and Kim Adams have

[13:46] spearheaded this initiative and while

[13:49] they are working on having donated

[13:50] mounting blocks installed at private

[13:52] businesses they have asked the city to

[13:55] add these amenities to our public parks

[13:57] installing mounting blocks in areas

[13:59] where Riders normally Dismount and mount

[14:02] can increase usage of noros trails and

[14:04] Parks uh many riders have difficulty

[14:07] getting on and off a horse and will

[14:08] search out large rocks stumps picnic

[14:12] tables and anything to give them

[14:14] themselves a boost um which sometimes

[14:16] can be unstable or slippery since this

[14:19] is H down USA is only fitting that we

[14:21] advocate for our Riders and the city has

[14:23] allocated funding for this project as

[14:25] part of fiscal year 2425

[14:29] for this pilot project $220,000 has been

[14:31] allocated to install ADA Compliant horse

[14:34] mounting blocks um with this being a

[14:36] pilot project uh we are going to be

[14:39] installing four ramps this year and

[14:41] we'll monitor the usage of those ramps

[14:43] along with maintenance

[14:46] factors depending on the pilot Project's

[14:49] outcomes uh the city May program

[14:51] additional funding for other parks and

[14:53] facilities in future years each ramp

[14:56] will cost about $5,000 and will be

[14:58] installed by City Crews it is important

[15:01] to note that this pilot project was

[15:02] brought to the parks and rec Commission

[15:04] on June 10th for review and discussion

[15:07] staff received positive feedback from

[15:08] the commission and has been working with

[15:10] handy ramp uh on an amenity that would

[15:13] also be Ada

[15:15] accessible the pilot project locations

[15:18] include coron staging area Pacer Park

[15:21] Hawk Crest Park and Norco Hills

[15:24] Park placement of these mounting blocks

[15:27] would sit adjacent to any holding pen or

[15:31] Arena and with that I have any if you

[15:34] have any questions but I would also like

[15:35] to bring up Maria and Kim just to say

[15:38] hello to the council and talk about an

[15:40] exciting uh reveal that they have this

[15:43] weekend at grocery

[15:45] allet thank you I'm Kim unfortunately

[15:47] I'm so sorry Maria got help helping

[15:49] somebody in distress so you got Kimmer G

[15:51] right here I'm going to bottle you I've

[15:54] decided I'm going to bottle that energy

[15:56] and sell it amen thank you bless by holy

[16:00] SP and Jesus thank you oh gosh you know

[16:03] what it all started with a with a dream

[16:05] um it's a on a saddle talk Marie and I

[16:08] one day in December were taking a ride

[16:10] and she's got some handicap disabilities

[16:12] and she rides a 17 hand thorough bread

[16:15] and whenever she gets on her horse at

[16:17] home she uses her Mount to go on safely

[16:20] and she always prays that nothing

[16:21] happens when she has to get off her

[16:22] horse and find something like she was

[16:24] saying which isn't safe and so

[16:26] especially we are riding by the parks

[16:28] and she's like oh my gosh sometimes I

[16:29] got to go potty you know but I can't get

[16:31] back on my horse so we got talking and I

[16:33] thought you know I bet you if it's not

[16:35] her you know um there's got to be more

[16:37] people like you out there so we got off

[16:40] our ride and ran in in the house and I

[16:42] grabbed my husband Peter beos and right

[16:45] over there and I said you got to make a

[16:46] video we're gonna get this out on

[16:48] Facebook and we're gonna hashtag Kevin

[16:50] bash and that's how it started many

[16:53] times don't give up on your dream big

[16:55] time Big Time so I am just honored Who

[16:58] would know that this little idea that we

[17:01] had would be here today and and it

[17:03] branched off you know to the to the

[17:05] private sector as people are paying for

[17:07] these beautiful wood Mount UPS our first

[17:10] one was set up in in July at Mavericks

[17:12] we're Happ we're having our second one

[17:14] this installation this Saturday at

[17:16] grocery outlet and um gosh and just the

[17:20] backup and just so many people on

[17:22] Facebook just like we love that idea we

[17:24] want more can you put one here can you

[17:26] put one there and just like oh it just

[17:30] so amazing I'm just honored to that you

[17:32] know God put that inspiration in our

[17:34] minds and we just didn't give up and uh

[17:36] hashtag you so so anyways thank you so

[17:40] much and I hope everybody can make it

[17:41] out Saturday 10: a.m. Grocery Outlet um

[17:45] and then we're moving up to uh um Boot

[17:47] Barn and just all the way up Sixth

[17:48] Street and then ster Brothers on coron

[17:51] and river and there she is right

[17:55] here she made it but anyways but thank

[17:58] you so so much and we'll have a m up

[18:00] everywhere in nor thank you thank you

[18:02] very much and uh

[18:06] Amanda where' Amanda go Amanda thank you

[18:08] and your staff for making this happen

[18:10] this is really uh it's one of those

[18:12] unique Norco winds so thank you Mayer

[18:16] yes I got a question yep the ramps are

[18:19] they made out of aluminum yes they are

[18:21] are they going to be slip proof on the

[18:24] yes they do have some grit to them and

[18:26] they're made specifically for um this

[18:28] type of application in parks and in

[18:30] Trails um yeah they will have a they

[18:32] will have a grit to them on the ramp

[18:34] area okay thank you any other

[18:38] questions congratulations so next uh

[18:42] going to call upon Isabelle heinrikson

[18:44] and Jamie Shin for the read to ride

[18:49] program how are you young lady I haven't

[18:51] seen you in a long time nice to see you

[18:54] do you know the lady at the end no not

[18:57] at all

[18:59] so for those of you that don't know my

[19:01] name is Izzy oh Isabelle Hendrickson but

[19:03] I do go by Izzy um when I joined so I

[19:06] kind of had this idea of joining the

[19:08] Norco Fair committee um and I thought

[19:10] what new ideas can I bring to the Norco

[19:12] Fair committee I knew other fairs that

[19:15] did this reading program um and from

[19:18] there we I brought it up to the naral

[19:20] fair committee so far we have one

[19:22] sponsor thank you

[19:23] Woody this is our pilot year um for this

[19:27] program so basically the the idea is the

[19:29] kids read um they write a summary and

[19:32] they get ride tickets in return um now

[19:34] I'll go ahead and hand it over to Jamie

[19:35] so she can explain more detail on

[19:39] that good evening everyone my name is

[19:41] Jamin I'm the branch manager for the

[19:43] Eastville and norgo libraries on behalf

[19:45] of the library we are very thankful for

[19:47] this opportunity to give you all a brief

[19:49] overview on the online platform

[19:50] beanstack which R toite is held on the

[19:53] Riverside County library system is

[19:55] currently using oops sorry currently do

[19:59] me a favor can you talk right into them

[20:01] it's there you go gotcha the Riverside

[20:04] County library system is currently using

[20:06] bean stack to hold multiple reading

[20:07] challenges throughout the year including

[20:09] the current collaboration between the

[20:11] Norco library and the Norco Fair called

[20:13] read to write beanstack is an online

[20:15] program where our library patrons are

[20:16] able to create accounts to participate

[20:18] in the reading challenges our system has

[20:20] published our patrons also known as

[20:22] readers participate in these challenges

[20:24] by logging the reading activity and

[20:25] completing tasks either through the

[20:27] beanstack app or the website

[20:29] more specifically our readers interact

[20:31] with beanstack by being able to choose

[20:32] which reading challenges they'd like to

[20:34] register for readers are in points and

[20:36] badges by completing the required

[20:37] activities determined by the associated

[20:39] challenges these activities can include

[20:41] submitting a book summary um and logging

[20:44] their total minutes of reading bean

[20:46] stack tracks the reader progress and

[20:47] allows Library staff to issue Awards

[20:49] corresponding to their

[20:50] participation the noral fair R toide

[20:53] program like isad explained is our first

[20:55] Branch specific Challenge on beanstack

[20:57] RTO ride will be active in until August

[20:59] 16th and is available to our nro patrons

[21:01] R toide encourages readers from

[21:03] preschool to 6th grade to Ride book

[21:04] summaries in exchange for ride tickets

[21:06] and a free shaved ice from Woody shaved

[21:08] ice to earn ride tickets each book

[21:10] summary will earn them an increasing

[21:11] number of Free Ride tickets for example

[21:13] readers that submit one book summary

[21:15] will earn two tickets two will earn

[21:17] three and so on until um they' submitted

[21:19] up to eight summaries which is rewarded

[21:21] by 10 ride tickets a free shaved ice

[21:24] kind of follows the same rule where

[21:26] they'll uh shave the shaved ice will

[21:28] increase in size depending on the book

[21:29] summaries they submitted so one to two

[21:31] will earn a small one and the jumbo free

[21:34] shaved ice is the um range between seven

[21:36] to eight book summaries um so yeah

[21:39] readers are then able to pick up their

[21:41] ride tickets and free shaped ice at the

[21:42] noral fair by using their first and last

[21:44] name at a designated R to ride check-in

[21:47] area currently we have a total of 52

[21:50] participants and a total of 120 badges

[21:52] earned um 55 book summaries have been

[21:55] submitted and 13 participants have

[21:56] completed all their activities

[21:59] uh my reports share that the age groups

[22:00] with the most participants are between 7

[22:02] to 8 years old and the majority of our

[22:04] patrons are noral patrons but local

[22:06] participants have joined the Challenge

[22:08] from nearby branches like Eastville and

[22:10] home gardens but they're all within the

[22:12] same county

[22:13] system the future of beanstack is full

[22:15] of upcoming CH reading challenges and

[22:17] programs the Riverside County library

[22:19] system has reading challenges available

[22:21] on beanstack year round for patrons for

[22:23] all ages to participate in we welcome

[22:25] any future collaborations as we work to

[22:27] serve our GR community at the noral

[22:29] library thank you do we have any

[22:35] questions this is wonderful this is

[22:38] really wonderful I I is there some way

[22:40] we can get this out to

[22:43] uh I I think we need to put this on our

[22:45] website and maybe put it on our Norco

[22:47] app and that kind of thing this is

[22:49] wonderful it's nice to see you're doing

[22:51] great things still I remember you when

[22:53] you were

[22:54] [Laughter]

[22:56] little any questions

[22:59] comments well thank

[23:01] you yeah I saw

[23:04] yeah

[23:17] cely coming out of our pocket yeah go

[23:21] great thank

[23:24] you all right next up

[23:32] uh we have one other thing that we need

[23:33] to do um is the lieutenant

[23:36] here can you come on up

[23:41] here I'm gonna rub

[23:52] it for the first two years and Newton

[23:56] couldn't stand it so he brought a ringer

[23:59] this year and I would have won so with

[24:03] great

[24:05] reluctance I have to give you the cow

[24:09] throwing contest award but no it

[24:14] was a ringer an ex- minor leager I know

[24:17] and tell him we used to want him back in

[24:19] Norco but not

[24:23] anymore

[24:25] anyway and

[24:28] stands for cops and we want you to help

[24:31] proud we are even when you throw

[24:43] sh I'm gonna get so much trouble from my

[24:47] wife

[24:50] Lieutenant if if you would tell Andy

[24:53] that c does not stand for cops it stands

[24:56] for Cubs oh as at his

[25:00] request Riverside County deputies are

[25:02] not losers it's

[25:06] cops all right moving

[25:09] on uh we'll have city council reports on

[25:12] Regional boards councilman grun

[25:15] Meer uh nothing to report thank you Mr

[25:21] Mayor councilwoman Alman yes I on July

[25:24] 18th um I attended the north northwest

[25:27] mosquito and vector Control District

[25:28] Board of Trustees meeting and just a

[25:30] couple points out of that meeting um in

[25:32] terms of West Nile um the district only

[25:35] reports when mosquitoes are found that

[25:38] have West Nile in our County any reports

[25:41] of humans um who have been infected

[25:44] would come from the county department of

[25:45] health um and so you can check uh their

[25:48] website they have a social media and an

[25:49] Instagram um this year in the state I

[25:52] think there's only been two cases and

[25:54] they did just find the a first pool that

[25:56] had West Nile in our County um and then

[25:58] that they'll base their treatment plans

[26:00] based on that uh and then the second is

[26:02] that we have hired a new general Council

[26:04] and so we will begin working on our

[26:06] strategic plan one of which is to

[26:07] continue uh to be proactive and protect

[26:10] the health of the public when it comes

[26:11] to mosquitoes and Vector born

[26:15] diseases council member

[26:19] Hannah yeah tonight I want to read this

[26:21] about

[26:24] uh Joe tavalon he was uh longtime member

[26:29] of just about every Transportation

[26:31] Commission that there was in the state

[26:33] of

[26:33] California in July he just celebrated

[26:36] his 101st

[26:38] birthday and up until just a few months

[26:41] before that he was as sharp as anybody

[26:44] and a pleasure to talk to him I know

[26:47] several members of his family and

[26:50] everything but uh he joined the

[26:52] California Transportation Commission in

[26:55] 2002 and retired excuse me in July live

[27:00] 2024 and he had over 20 years of

[27:02] transportation and over 50 years in

[27:05] construction and he helped rctc receive

[27:08] state funding for a lot of major

[27:10] projects including the wiing of the I

[27:13] 215 State Route 91

[27:16] I-15 and State Route

[27:19] 60 and Senator Roth is preparing a

[27:22] resolution to dedicate the 60 91215

[27:26] interchange in his name but uh I

[27:31] remember I hadn't seen him in several

[27:34] years and when we did the groundbreaking

[27:37] on

[27:38] the express lanes of the 15 freeway over

[27:41] here well he walked up and started

[27:44] talking just like we'd seen each other

[27:46] the day before he he never forgot people

[27:49] and he was quite a gentleman and it's

[27:51] sad that he's passing but it's uh a good

[27:55] deal that they're going to name that

[27:56] interchange after he m over there and

[27:59] that's all I have mayor sir

[28:07] Greg thank you mayor uh last week U head

[28:11] board meeting Chino Bas and dalter

[28:13] Authority board of directors meeting um

[28:17] I was going to do a a riveting report on

[28:21] uh the Chino Basin uh plume that we

[28:25] spend uh a lot of time working on but

[28:28] I'm going to put that off and I'm going

[28:30] to show a little video U this was an

[28:33] item we went over um at our meeting uh

[28:38] it's done by

[28:40] jcsd and then I'm going to ask our fire

[28:42] chief with your permission mayor to um

[28:45] uh speak on this but this has to do with

[28:47] a article that U I read here a little

[28:51] bit ago about helip pods and helah

[28:54] hydrants and um

[28:58] and and I'll ask the chief to touch on

[29:00] it but we've had discussions on moving

[29:03] forward with Wildlife well Wildland

[29:07] protection Chief will touch on that go

[29:09] go ahead and play that it's only two

[29:18] minutes at herua Community Services

[29:21] District we pride ourselves on being

[29:24] Regional leaders in the services we

[29:26] provide every day jcsd provides

[29:29] essential services for our community and

[29:32] our commitment to Innovation and

[29:34] Community safety is stronger than ever

[29:36] through jcsds helah hydrant project

[29:39] designed to bolster our community's fire

[29:42] response and Public Safety the helah

[29:44] hydrant is a game changer in our

[29:46] emergency response strategy and is the

[29:49] first of its kind in the Inland Empire

[29:51] region each hydrant is a 15 ft wide

[29:55] nearly 10,000g tank designed to expedite

[29:58] the water collection process for

[30:00] firefighting helicopters each hel

[30:03] hydrant is a little different this

[30:04] particular one takes about 7 minutes and

[30:07] it'll fill to the top situated

[30:09] strategically in fire prone areas these

[30:11] helah hydrant are constructed to

[30:13] integrate seamlessly with jcsds existing

[30:16] Water Systems when a fire breaks out the

[30:20] jcsd hydrant quickly fills when

[30:22] activated by an approaching firefighting

[30:24] helicopter providing a valuable water

[30:27] source that SA critical time in the

[30:29] battle against fire when a fire

[30:31] emergency erupts firefighters can rely

[30:34] on jcsds H hydrant to be ready for

[30:37] action and allows for us to get water on

[30:39] the fire's Edge as as quickly as we can

[30:42] in the summer of 20124 we celebrated a

[30:46] major Milestone with the inauguration of

[30:48] the first jcsd helah hydron in service

[30:52] located in haropa Valley's Country

[30:54] Village neighborhood helping

[30:55] firefighting efforts in the area we

[30:58] initiated a discussion with calire and

[31:00] said hey can we look at doing a project

[31:02] like this over in JCS area through

[31:05] Forward Thinking and long-term planning

[31:07] the jcsd helah hydrant project will

[31:10] install a total of four helah hydrants

[31:13] across jcsd service area in Eastvale and

[31:16] haropa Valley ensuring robust coverage

[31:19] and protection for our region with the

[31:21] helah hydrons jcsd is not just helping

[31:24] fight fires we're building resilience

[31:27] and safe guarding our community's future

[31:29] for generations to come to learn more

[31:32] about our Innovative projects programs

[31:34] and Community initiatives visit

[31:46] jcsd.us thank you uh mayor this is

[31:49] something I'd like to with your

[31:50] permission to uh um do some further re

[31:55] research with uh staff and calire

[31:58] um this was also I believe it's um paid

[32:03] through with a grant from uh Riverside

[32:06] County flood control and and I think

[32:09] something like this is very appropriate

[32:11] um especially for our area

[32:14] and given what's going on recently so

[32:18] Chief would you like

[32:20] to make a few comments briefly

[32:24] and explain it a lot better than I

[32:29] good evening Mr Mayor and members of the

[32:31] city council um so yeah I'd say about

[32:34] two years ago jcsd uh approached myself

[32:38] and chief VI and they were interested in

[32:41] putting in these hydrants so what we did

[32:44] is we teamed with them and we went out

[32:46] to different locations within Hupa

[32:48] Valley and Eastville so the one you saw

[32:51] here is the first of four that are going

[32:53] in that one's off a Country Village Road

[32:55] just north and their next one's going to

[32:57] be in East down by the river bottom and

[32:59] then a couple more along the river

[33:00] bottom in herua Valley so um we team

[33:03] with them we had our Pilots come out and

[33:05] uh they they cleared the areas what's

[33:07] safe for them and this product really is

[33:10] safe for our pilots and that's one of

[33:11] the main reasons we did it it's quick

[33:13] easy access they control it from the air

[33:16] to fill the uh device up to fill the

[33:19] tank up and then they can drain it after

[33:21] they leave and water goes back down into

[33:23] the system so it's really a great system

[33:26] um I'm an advocate for it

[33:28] um the more the better for our Pilots

[33:30] the safer it's going to be for them so

[33:32] if you guys have any questions I'll try

[33:35] to answer them the best I

[33:37] can any

[33:39] questions thank you sir all

[33:42] righty Chief I appreciate it um just one

[33:46] other comment that it's controlled by

[33:48] the helicopter but it ties to our

[33:50] scatter system and

[33:54] um and I think we have some ideal

[33:56] locations

[33:58] where where this could be placed

[34:01] so with your permission mayor thank you

[34:04] yes please thanks Chief okay no worries

[34:07] okay

[34:10] anytime uh so a couple of things um the

[34:13] Western Regional Council of governments

[34:16] uh a couple of issues that we talked

[34:18] about first off we had a pretty

[34:19] interesting water um presentation that

[34:22] we have some water issues in Southern

[34:24] California what was very interesting to

[34:25] me is that the the Western principal

[34:28] water uh company director um I had gone

[34:31] on a water tour with him up to the Delta

[34:34] and at that time he did not know how

[34:36] many houses we had to build in the area

[34:37] and he said oh we have plenty of water

[34:39] for all the houses he's changed his tune

[34:42] he now realizes that the amount of

[34:43] houses that they want us to build

[34:45] Apartments um it's a real problem and

[34:49] the reality is they're asking us to do

[34:51] we all these houses they want us to

[34:52] build we don't have enough water we

[34:54] don't have enough all kinds of stuff so

[34:56] one of the things that um at the end of

[34:59] this meeting I'm going to talk about is

[35:01] I know it's an impossible task but I'm

[35:03] going to talk about um how do we truly

[35:06] beef up our recycled water program so

[35:08] I'll talk about that um uh Katherine and

[35:11] I went to the Riverside City College

[35:12] District trustees meeting I'm going to

[35:16] um basically there was a bond um did you

[35:19] stay for the whole thing Katherine did

[35:20] you say to the end um they actually are

[35:23] going to pass a bond uh it's one of the

[35:26] few bonds that I am actually supporting

[35:29] um we are hearing that there's going to

[35:32] be a lot of job loss in the state of

[35:33] California in the next coming year

[35:35] hundreds of thousand of jobs maybe we

[35:37] have people leaving and they're saying

[35:39] kids that are 20 years old are probably

[35:42] going to have to learn skills all

[35:44] through their life they predict they'll

[35:45] live to 100 and so junior colleges are

[35:49] an incredible way to retool they're also

[35:51] an incredible way to uh get your first

[35:54] two years in whenever I see somebody

[35:56] from Norco college and so I'm just going

[35:58] to Norco College say that's great that's

[35:59] fantastic your parents going to love you

[36:01] because it's almost free so um I am

[36:04] going to support that particular Bond

[36:07] and then finally I want to add this um

[36:09] to the council you've all been very

[36:10] supportive we've we have been trying to

[36:14] list expand the list to include the Navy

[36:17] base on the national register of

[36:19] historic places and after a lot of talk

[36:24] we finally spoke to an expert attorney

[36:27] in

[36:28] preservation law and I wish the heck we

[36:31] talked to this woman a long time ago um

[36:34] on February 2nd

[36:38] 2018 we unanimously received approval to

[36:41] expand the national register from the

[36:42] state historic preservation

[36:44] commission we didn't know this till we

[36:46] did fo requests but the Navy opposed it

[36:49] and they submitted in October of the

[36:52] same year a technical review that was

[36:55] just flat wrong we didn't know about It

[36:59] ultimately through a lot of gations we

[37:02] didn't know until almost in fact four

[37:04] years later that the keeper apparently

[37:07] agreed with the Navy but she didn't

[37:10] actually deny our petition she said I'm

[37:13] making no judgment

[37:16] well they had 45 days it says

[37:20] nominations will be included in the

[37:21] National register within 45 days of

[37:23] receipt by The Keeper a design unless

[37:25] the keeper disapproves a nomination an

[37:27] appeal is filed or the owner of the

[37:29] private property etc etc etc Navy

[37:32] actually waited 3 years to tell us

[37:35] keeper almost four years to tell us and

[37:38] it actually appears that if there's no

[37:41] decision it has to be treated as if it's

[37:43] on the national register so at the end

[37:45] of this meeting I'm going to be asking

[37:47] that we uh along with the lcf who's

[37:50] agreed to co-partner with us that we

[37:52] hire this attorney and make it known

[37:55] that this belongs on the national

[37:58] register if this is actually true we've

[38:01] overcome politicians we've overcome

[38:05] Navy bureaucrats we've overcome if this

[38:08] is as simple as it gets I'm going to be

[38:11] really upset because I spend a lot of

[38:12] time on this thing but 45 days is 45

[38:15] days and the soonest that the uh the

[38:19] Navy notified anybody

[38:22] was eight months later so this may well

[38:25] be a huge win and that's all I have so

[38:29] moving on to the consent calendar uh do

[38:32] council members have any items that need

[38:33] to be

[38:35] pulled mayor we're at public

[38:39] comments

[38:40] in I have

[38:43] um

[38:45] 3K

[38:48] 3M mayor we are at the um public comment

[38:52] item number two not consent calendar

[38:55] yet oh I'm sorry I I apologize yes I

[38:58] apologize hold that thought guys I

[39:00] apologize uh are there any public

[39:02] comments yes there is um this is the

[39:06] time on person's wishing to address the

[39:07] presiding governmental body regarding

[39:10] the consent calendar or matters not on

[39:12] the agenda may be heard please limit

[39:14] comments to 3 minutes or less the

[39:15] governmental body shall not discuss or

[39:17] act relative to any general public

[39:20] comment my first speaker is Dylan wimple

[39:29] hi Dylan how are

[39:30] you well

[39:33] good good evening Council my name is

[39:35] Dylan wimple here as a resident of Norco

[39:37] ask the city of Norco to implement an

[39:38] organic farm friendly weed and Pest

[39:40] Management plan organic farmers are

[39:43] limited in the chemicals they can use on

[39:44] or near their farms and the city's use

[39:46] of glyphosate and other similar products

[39:47] May overspray and jeopardize their

[39:49] Organic certification and many residents

[39:51] have worked hard to obtain this I ask

[39:53] the city review organic Alternatives and

[39:55] maintenance of our trails and public

[39:56] spaces and UTI regenerative agriculture

[39:58] practices in weed and pest suppression

[40:01] integrated Pest Management and ground

[40:02] cover such as mulch can help maintain

[40:04] the health of our soils and changes like

[40:05] these protect our small plot Farmers

[40:07] eliminating the risk of

[40:08] cross-contamination on their farmland

[40:09] and harvests thank you for your time

[40:11] great thank you sir our next speaker is

[40:14] Sergeant

[40:19] eof are we supposed to salute no I'm not

[40:23] I'm not a

[40:24] zero um um good good evening to the city

[40:28] council I just wanted to um thank the

[40:31] city of Narco the city council the staff

[40:35] Amanda over there um U Lori anybody else

[40:39] who is involved uh we got a call for our

[40:42] brick table at the National Night Out um

[40:46] when was that yesterday oh man and uh we

[40:50] were there from 2:30 till 8:00 at night

[40:54] and Larry how many people did we talk to

[40:58] 67 we talked to 67 people we're real

[41:03] picky about this we always have somebody

[41:05] that clicks the amount of uh people that

[41:08] we talk to but I just wanted to thank

[41:10] the the staff Amanda let me know about

[41:12] this uh and we set it up almost

[41:15] immediately and uh the staff came out

[41:18] there and set it up for us and they took

[41:21] it down but and these people that do

[41:24] this get paid for it and they of course

[41:26] they should get paid for it but that's

[41:28] not the point it's their attitude and I

[41:30] know I've talked about this before but

[41:32] it's always their attitude they do these

[41:35] things with a smile on their face if we

[41:37] ask them can we get another chair they

[41:40] just run out and get another chair

[41:42] they're so easy to work with and it's

[41:45] like they if if they could uh do it they

[41:49] would do it for free I mean this is how

[41:51] how good they are um the other thing is

[41:55] that Lori introduced me to a QR codes

[41:58] which I have which I have on my back and

[42:02] anybody behind me thinking about what's

[42:05] that weirdo gotta buy a brick on his

[42:07] back you you're more than welcome to

[42:09] come up behind me and take a picture of

[42:12] the of the QR code and thank you again

[42:15] Lori for bringing this you created a

[42:17] monster I'm a QR code nut uh the other

[42:22] thing is uh that I'd like to talk about

[42:24] is the um the fact that my wife and I or

[42:29] myself had decided that we're

[42:32] seniors I I know really I I'm not a

[42:36] senior so we went to the we go always go

[42:39] to the senior

[42:41] breakfast uh but we started going to Tai

[42:44] Chi and we did Tai Chi and we had again

[42:48] wonderful people over at the senior

[42:50] center I know these things don't happen

[42:53] by Magic and I have my the our taii and

[42:57] instructor could you please stand Cindy

[43:00] wonderful lady and we have a greeting

[43:02] that we

[43:05] do and she puts up with us I mean we we

[43:09] forget all these things and she say oh

[43:11] you're doing so great and we know we

[43:14] just screwed up the whole farm and

[43:16] everything but they have so many things

[43:18] so we went on from taiichi to chair of

[43:21] volleyball which is crazy if you stand

[43:24] up you lose a point but everybody just

[43:27] laughs the whole time uh they have a

[43:30] newly form formed uh chess club that

[43:34] Jordan runs he's great we do that and

[43:37] Sergeant eov I hate to interrupt you I

[43:40] can't believe you were tamed by the taii

[43:43] instructor over there but you're out of

[43:44] time I'm out of time thank you thank you

[43:47] sir and Alejandra would you please let

[43:49] your staff know that you were

[43:51] complimented by a sergeant from the

[43:52] United States Marine Corps

[43:57] our next speaker is Greg

[44:04] Bowen I'll make this short and sweet um

[44:08] for the norcar rodeo this year we're

[44:09] going to try something different on

[44:11] Sunday um I have

[44:15] contacted um four different counties and

[44:18] we're going to have law enforcement on

[44:19] Horseback on Sunday and we're going to

[44:22] have approximately over a 100 law

[44:24] enforcement that actually are doing that

[44:27] for a living uh coming to Norco and

[44:30] doing our grand

[44:32] entry uh we've got sanino County Sheriff

[44:36] sanino County Rangers sanino County PD

[44:40] sanino County uh Chino

[44:43] PD

[44:45] LAPD is a I haven't got a complete

[44:48] number from them yet but laso the

[44:50] sheriff Department's coming Orange

[44:52] County Sheriff Department's going

[44:54] Anaheim Irvine Fullerton Huntington

[44:57] Beach and most of these people live in

[44:59] this

[45:00] town uh Riverside Chad biano is going to

[45:03] be our Grand

[45:04] Marshall and Corona PD and possibly uh

[45:09] Palm Springs PD is going to be bringing

[45:10] horses um a quick breakdown what we're

[45:13] going to be

[45:14] doing um we're gonna everybody's going

[45:17] to check in early on Sunday they're

[45:20] going to get saddled up get their

[45:21] briefing uh then we're going to do a

[45:23] small trail ride down Sixth Street with

[45:27] approximately 100 horses we're gonna I

[45:30] have Saddles sword Rider going to come

[45:31] out and just like they do their trail

[45:34] rides that's all this is going to be is

[45:35] a trail ride and we're going to go down

[45:37] to tamiscal turn around and get all the

[45:38] bugs out of the

[45:40] horses then they're going to come up and

[45:41] they're going to line up and the rodeo

[45:44] starts at 5: so approximately 4:30

[45:46] they're going to be lining up in the

[45:47] back and then we'll go ahead and make a

[45:50] uh proceed into the arena and then after

[45:53] that the national anthem the Queens show

[45:56] the flag and all that stuff they're

[45:57] going to be dismissed but what I want to

[46:00] really capture on it's the first time

[46:02] this has ever been done in California uh

[46:05] we do it in Sacramento each year

[46:07] sometimes with 70 sometimes with 100

[46:10] it's phenomenal we ride all through

[46:13] Sacramento um and it's you don't really

[46:17] realize how many horses are in Southern

[46:19] California that actually do law

[46:21] enforcement on Horseback and what better

[46:23] City to promote that or even show it off

[46:26] is it Norco so we're going to do that uh

[46:29] this year at the Norco Rodeo September

[46:31] 25th the rodeo is at 5:00 if anybody

[46:33] wants to show

[46:35] up uh and that's all I got and by the

[46:38] way Amanda day the cowboy awesome and

[46:42] Berwin those uh mounting blocks those

[46:44] are made for just me and

[46:46] you all right thank you thank you

[46:50] sir our next speaker is JN Kiros

[47:00] good evening sir good evening um I

[47:03] appreciate your your warmth of how you

[47:05] conduct these these Council meetings

[47:07] they're they're uh they're a breath of

[47:09] fresh air well thank you okay

[47:13] um I'd like to my name is John Kos and

[47:16] I'm a a future resident of Norco and uh

[47:19] I want to thank you for the opportunity

[47:20] to address the city council and let me

[47:23] start by saying the city is doing so

[47:25] much good work across the board I agree

[47:27] 100% with the pastor that Norco is a a

[47:31] truly great City we love the traditional

[47:34] American values that Norco symbolizes we

[47:38] embrace the city's love of horses

[47:40] Agriculture and self-reliance Norco

[47:43] embodies the small town American Spirit

[47:45] that seems lacking throughout much of

[47:47] the State uh we love this town and we

[47:50] intend to call it home with that being

[47:53] said I'm here tonight to say my peace

[47:55] with respect to the 4030 Acacia home

[47:58] build it's just down uh as you go north

[48:01] on Hammer um right by the uh gy

[48:05] gymnasium it's it's the new Corner House

[48:08] it's it's gorgeous I think you'll agree

[48:11] um that it was built with love and pride

[48:14] and attention to

[48:15] detail uh the problem you're going to

[48:17] hear about from uh the owner Maria who's

[48:20] going to speak after me tonight is that

[48:22] after uh building plans were approved

[48:25] Corrections were given to the Builder

[48:27] the Builder made those corrections after

[48:30] the home was built after multiple

[48:32] inspections including two electrical

[48:34] inspections after the inspection card

[48:37] was signed the city has decided to

[48:39] change its uh enforcement of a 20 plus

[48:42] year old building code uh to require uh

[48:45] underground rather than above ground uh

[48:48] power source obviously this is added

[48:51] significant delays costs and not to

[48:53] mention

[48:54] heartache I think folks have the common

[48:56] sense to know that changing the

[48:59] rules at the end of the game um and to

[49:03] change the outcome smells to high heaven

[49:06] whether it's legal or not ask yourself

[49:09] this question why now why wait till the

[49:11] very end of the

[49:12] build uh the city has asked if the city

[49:16] had asked to change at the onset this

[49:19] would have been done by

[49:21] now um let me end by saying that the

[49:24] last hour changes to the Bild would seem

[49:27] to go against all the values that uh

[49:29] embody this great

[49:31] town this is the sort of mess you'd

[49:33] expect other places but not in Norco

[49:35] respectfully I request the council's

[49:37] attention to this matter and I

[49:39] appreciate your leadership to help the

[49:41] city come to mutually agreed upon

[49:43] solution uh sincerely thank you thank

[49:46] you sir Alma so I'm assuming you'll

[49:49] reach out and okay our next speaker is

[49:52] Maria Fernandez

[49:59] evening council members and

[50:02] mayor at all um 430 AA it's a home I

[50:06] built with a lot of love for my family

[50:08] we're all been trying to call nor homes

[50:10] we got three homes under construction uh

[50:13] my granddaughter starts school at

[50:14] turning point on uh Norco Street on the

[50:18] 12th but uh now we we're hoping to

[50:21] finish our home by um my daughter's home

[50:24] by the by July but that didn't happen um

[50:27] my concern is and I'm upset about it

[50:30] because I feel like if this would have

[50:32] been given to me in the very beginning

[50:34] of course there was no question about if

[50:35] it's underground requirements that's

[50:37] underground requirement from Power if

[50:40] we're not here to not do what we're

[50:42] supposed to do but for God's sake you

[50:44] know we got a panel that is going put in

[50:46] the north side of the property it looks

[50:48] like we don't even know what it's going

[50:50] to involved yet because we were just

[50:52] told on the 25th of July that um oh it

[50:56] looks like we you guys did not bring the

[50:58] power underground Our rough electrical

[51:01] was inspected on December uh last year

[51:05] our service panel was insed on July

[51:07] 1st and after the service panel passed

[51:11] obviously the next step is we continue

[51:12] calling so they can release this to the

[51:15] power company so then Edison can power

[51:17] up so we can test fire sprinklers

[51:21] um the rest of stuff um air conditioning

[51:26] so on so we're looking for a final

[51:28] towards the mid July and July so we can

[51:30] kind of make that move and now we're all

[51:33] stuck over here kind of crying and being

[51:35] upset and talking to different people at

[51:37] planning I honestly feel like um it's

[51:40] unfortunate that the planning department

[51:42] failed to notify it as even through the

[51:45] progress of it would have been framing

[51:48] okay but I mean when they passed these

[51:50] panels This individuals saw that the

[51:53] electrical was feed through the overhead

[51:56] driving to Norco I see a lot of

[51:58] properties that are newer near build I

[52:00] still see a lot of overhead and I'm not

[52:02] here to argue who's win and that's

[52:04] really not my department I'm glad to

[52:07] follow the rules I've done this for the

[52:09] last 26 years I bu for my family I buil

[52:11] for friends that's my trade I this is

[52:13] not the first home I built and I am just

[52:17] um I would say upset or surprised that

[52:20] it took this department this long to say

[52:24] there is no way I beg and asking hey is

[52:27] there a way we can at least power up the

[52:29] property for now and then in the next

[52:31] few months Edis is going to take at

[52:33] least four months to change the plans

[52:35] it's a big burden and I've asked to

[52:37] please look into it and to end I don't

[52:41] want to just come in complain I love the

[52:43] city if we have wonderful people Public

[52:46] Works have done an awesome job the girls

[52:48] at the counter they're just such a

[52:49] beautiful job they go on and beyond

[52:51] their Duty not to mention Lacy Davis

[52:53] she's such a great person so I'm not

[52:54] here to just complain great people

[52:56] people but right now I feel like a

[52:57] couple people in the planning um

[52:59] organization may be messed up by um not

[53:02] giving us directions in the very

[53:04] beginning thank you for your time did

[53:06] you bu did you also renovate the house

[53:08] next door excuse me was did you renovate

[53:11] the house right next door to that was

[53:12] that your house somebody else I just

[53:14] curious thank you we just put you the

[53:16] corner line yeah thank you ma'am thank

[53:18] you our next speaker is Bonnie slager

[53:29] hi Bonnie good evening everybody do you

[53:32] have well you know it's fair time and so

[53:35] I'm reminding everybody that you can buy

[53:38] Fair buttons now they're $15 ahead of

[53:41] time they're $2 at the gate and uh

[53:45] they're for sale at a lot of places on

[53:47] Sixth Street they're for sale here at

[53:49] City Hall and some places on Hamer and I

[53:53] just happen to have some with me tonight

[53:55] if anybody wants to to buy a fair button

[53:58] uh my second thing that I wanted to

[54:00] mention again tonight is that um with

[54:03] the election coming up uh Norco

[54:07] Horsemen's Association and Rural has

[54:09] partnered to have a candidates night and

[54:12] so I hope everybody will put on their

[54:15] calendar uh September 19th Thursday

[54:18] September

[54:19] 19th um at Nelly Weaver Hall I guess I'm

[54:23] sorry I always call it I guess it's the

[54:25] hall now but it's still Nelly waiver

[54:27] Hall to me and at 6:30 we'll be having

[54:31] candidates night so I think the

[54:34] um I think this Friday is when the the

[54:38] deadline is for money it actually

[54:42] extends if the um if one incumbent does

[54:45] not um put papers in so it'll extend to

[54:49] the 14th okay so so it may go till the

[54:52] 14th correct correct all right cuz then

[54:54] I want to get letters out to all of the

[54:56] candidates so I can't do that until that

[54:59] but anyway so please put on your

[55:01] calendar to come on September 19th and

[55:04] by Fair buttons thank you thank you

[55:07] Bonnie there's no further public comment

[55:11] mayor closing public comments now moving

[55:14] to the consent calendar I

[55:18] oh all right quickly we'll

[55:22] reopen that's all right it I'll be real

[55:26] brief uh Council she's new to Norco yeah

[55:29] right 30 some

[55:30] years no I just want to give my

[55:33] compliments to the young ladies that

[55:35] started the bean stack challenges I

[55:37] remember when I was that age not that

[55:40] long ago and it was so special for us

[55:43] because I was raised in the City of

[55:45] Pomona and they used to have King

[55:47] Arthur's Round Table during the summer

[55:50] at the library for the kids from K

[55:52] through sixth grade and it was a great

[55:55] place for us kids to go we couldn't go

[55:56] to the local plunge we got to go to the

[55:58] library where it was air conditioned but

[56:00] they had something very similar to this

[56:01] so my hats off to these gals that

[56:03] started this and I hope businesses will

[56:05] get behind them and help them their with

[56:07] their support thank you thank

[56:10] you anyone else no further comment mayor

[56:15] going once going twice closed all right

[56:18] moving on to consent calendar uh Greg

[56:21] you are giving me a list

[56:28] not quite a list two items 3K

[56:39] 3M move to approve the rest um

[56:43] I have

[56:47] one second hang on no I also want to

[56:51] pull I want to pull 3F

[56:57] now what's your

[57:04] motion

[57:08] sorry please vote

[57:34] Greg motion passage unanimous thank

[57:44] you you would be first yeah I was going

[57:47] to let you go first well since that's

[57:50] the truth um I just want to get actually

[57:53] just an update on the 2023 General plan

[57:56] annual progress report just a little bit

[57:59] from

[58:04] someone yeah this is uh every year we

[58:06] have to create the annual report based

[58:08] on the activities of pretty much the

[58:10] Community Development Department so

[58:12] we're um required to um there's not

[58:15] really a deadline but we're supposed to

[58:16] submit it yearly so this report is

[58:19] basically a a summary of what has gone

[58:22] on in basically the Planning and

[58:24] Building Division and for were submitt

[58:26] to the state so that's the purpose of

[58:28] this

[58:29] report um I guess my question is and

[58:33] looking at it it

[58:35] looks looks pretty impressive in my

[58:39] opinion

[58:40] um I'm pretty pleased with uh the way

[58:44] the report's laid out I'm really pleased

[58:47] with um the planning that's gone on I'm

[58:51] really pleased I'm just really really

[58:54] pleased I'm I'm I'm I'm impressed and I

[58:57] really want to give you and your

[58:58] department Kudos thank you yeah

[59:01] sincerely and I really really mean that

[59:03] can you let everybody in your department

[59:05] know that yes I will do that thank you

[59:06] and with that I will move to do we close

[59:08] them all at the same time or just one at

[59:09] a time motion

[59:12] to you vote on him one at a time okay so

[59:15] motion to

[59:20] approve please vote

[59:34] much passage unanimous thank you okay

[59:36] Greg

[59:38] 3K thank you

[59:41] mayor um

[59:44] Sam so this

[59:47] item is going to seem somewhat political

[59:50] but there is a staff

[59:52] question

[59:54] um have

[59:57] um uh this change order I I understand

[1:00:01] our our backs are up against the wall on

[1:00:03] this

[1:00:05] um have you or Chad at this point

[1:00:08] reached out to our Edison rep

[1:00:13] representative on this item okay

[1:00:18] and I I don't want to make it political

[1:00:20] but I'm going to do a little bit we have

[1:00:23] a change order from Edison on um on a

[1:00:26] lift station which is legitimate as far

[1:00:29] as the request for change my request is

[1:00:32] um asking staff

[1:00:35] um $6,000 in

[1:00:39] labor $2,200 in material which would

[1:00:43] seem to be the bulk of a job

[1:00:46] $42,000 in

[1:00:51] other as it as it is um a $27

[1:00:56] credit for

[1:00:58] Salvage and a 24% tax rate or another

[1:01:04] $2,000 so a job that's

[1:01:07] approximately

[1:01:09] $10,000 is going to cost the residents

[1:01:12] six almost

[1:01:18] $66,000 and I think

[1:01:20] that it would be prudent to have staff

[1:01:24] reach out to to our our government

[1:01:27] representative and and question this I

[1:01:31] mean it it's

[1:01:33] just we all know Edison screws us right

[1:01:37] they impact every construction job uh

[1:01:40] the the time frame on this is ridiculous

[1:01:43] also but it's

[1:01:44] just I think we need to dig in a little

[1:01:46] bit and and try to fight it so okay and

[1:01:51] like I said I I would appreciate this I

[1:01:55] um I'll make a motion to approve because

[1:01:57] we have to move forward on it but not

[1:02:01] liking it at

[1:02:03] all do we have any thanks

[1:02:06] Sam cover public comments anything from

[1:02:08] Council I have no public

[1:02:11] comments nothing um I second that oh oh

[1:02:16] you did okay

[1:02:19] good please vote

[1:02:27] um for the record Berwin seconded

[1:02:36] it motion passes unanimous thank you

[1:02:39] thank you moving on to

[1:02:50] 3M so my questions are directed to Colin

[1:02:54] on on this item three um this is

[1:02:58] a to move forward with u an agreement

[1:03:02] with cosmon u transaction

[1:03:05] Services um one I'd like an explanation

[1:03:08] on where it says no Financial impact I I

[1:03:12] didn't see where that was addressed in

[1:03:14] this report and also this strikes me as

[1:03:18] a

[1:03:20] um like a cleanup item that was

[1:03:24] uh um

[1:03:26] over

[1:03:28] authorizations

[1:03:30] so it so yes it is it is like a cleanup

[1:03:34] item because uh we need additional

[1:03:37] authority to to go over the $50,000 city

[1:03:41] manager contract Authority on the fiscal

[1:03:44] impact portion I should have spelled

[1:03:46] that out better the reason there was no

[1:03:48] fiscal impact was because uh silverlakes

[1:03:51] is supposed to reimburse the city for

[1:03:53] 100% of the cost of this contract so we

[1:03:55] will pay the

[1:03:57] $90,000 but we'll get reimbursed 100% by

[1:04:00] Silver Lakes so it should be a wash with

[1:04:02] no fiscal impact but you're right that

[1:04:04] should have been spelled out better in

[1:04:05] in the

[1:04:06] section and

[1:04:12] then uh understanding and or

[1:04:15] notwithstanding their their expertise in

[1:04:19] um these type of

[1:04:22] transactions

[1:04:24] um would you feel it would also be

[1:04:26] prudent to have our accounting

[1:04:30] firm look at

[1:04:32] um at this

[1:04:36] situation and also do you think it would

[1:04:39] be prudent to put out a um an RFP for a

[1:04:44] firm that does um more large Sports

[1:04:50] Parks

[1:04:53] financing it's definitely something

[1:04:55] that's staff can look into uh it

[1:04:58] would provide another uh objective set

[1:05:01] of eyes to some of the numbers we're

[1:05:03] looking at so if if Council wants us to

[1:05:07] proceed down that we can go ahead and

[1:05:09] take a look and gather some information

[1:05:10] and come back to council with with what

[1:05:12] that would look like

[1:05:15] okay thank you that's all I

[1:05:18] have did you want to make a motion for

[1:05:23] that okay so you okay I'll move to

[1:05:27] approve but I would like it noted in the

[1:05:28] minutes that baloa management group is

[1:05:30] reimbursing the city for the cost of the

[1:05:33] services

[1:05:49] second please vote

[1:06:03] motion passes with council member or

[1:06:05] mayor protim Newton voting

[1:06:09] no moving on to

[1:06:12] 5A uh community development director

[1:06:15] will answer any questions you have does

[1:06:16] council have any questions or concerns

[1:06:18] about

[1:06:21] 5A do we have any public

[1:06:23] comments no public comments on 5 a uh I

[1:06:27] ask for a motion on

[1:06:29] 5A move to

[1:06:31] approve

[1:06:36] second please

[1:06:39] vote do you need to read this no Mr

[1:06:42] Mayor we read it on the first read

[1:06:49] okay motion passes unanimous thank you

[1:06:53] moving onone to 5B uh does council have

[1:06:55] any question questions or concerns with

[1:07:00] Sam any public comments no public

[1:07:03] comments on 5 b ask for a

[1:07:08] motion have a motion I need a second

[1:07:10] I'll

[1:07:12] second I know I was like that was a

[1:07:14] second second in a second sorry can I

[1:07:18] make the motion sign again I made a

[1:07:23] second please vote oh God I'm G to get

[1:07:38] fired motion passes unanimous thank you

[1:07:41] thank you moving on to 5c this will be

[1:07:43] for the

[1:07:44] attorney uh do we have any questions or

[1:07:46] concerns through

[1:07:49] Colin are there any public comments we

[1:07:52] have one public comment card Dylan

[1:07:54] wimple

[1:07:56] are there public comments on a second

[1:07:58] read yes there are okay okay thank

[1:08:03] you good evening good evening Dylan wimo

[1:08:07] is a resident I just want to say good

[1:08:10] help is hard to find I think you all put

[1:08:11] in a lot of work I think it's entirely

[1:08:12] reasonable to do a onetime adjustment on

[1:08:14] a 20-year-old decision and I support the

[1:08:16] motion thank you sir any other public

[1:08:19] comments no further comments closing

[1:08:21] public comments bringing it back to

[1:08:23] council for motion move to approve

[1:08:30] second please

[1:08:46] vote motion Was Defeated

[1:08:50] um we have council member Newton voting

[1:08:52] no council member grum Gren Meer voting

[1:08:56] no and council member Hannah abstaining

[1:09:00] from

[1:09:06] vote all

[1:09:10] right moving on discussion um order

[1:09:15] presentation for discussion items will

[1:09:16] be staff report presentation Council

[1:09:19] questions of Staff public comment

[1:09:21] Council discussion and

[1:09:22] action we'll begin with 6A

[1:09:27] um G

[1:09:30] Rios nice to see you is this your first

[1:09:32] time presenting it is good luck thank

[1:09:40] you good evening city council tonight I

[1:09:44] have before you the California Native

[1:09:45] tolerant Landscaping

[1:09:48] policy on April 17th of

[1:09:51] 2024 the Narco city council directed

[1:09:54] staff to create a California Native

[1:09:56] drought tolerant Landscaping policy for

[1:09:58] review at a future meeting the proposed

[1:10:01] policy will prioritize the use of

[1:10:03] California Native drought tolerant

[1:10:05] landscaping and will support noro's

[1:10:07] conservation goals along with complying

[1:10:09] with state and local water

[1:10:12] regulations the policy intends to apply

[1:10:14] these practices to City facilities

[1:10:16] during Landscaping upgrades or new

[1:10:18] projects striving to use native drought

[1:10:21] tolerant plants wherever feasible the

[1:10:23] city will make every effort to utilize

[1:10:25] ize California Native drought tolerant

[1:10:27] plans as reasonably

[1:10:30] achievable the purpose of this policy is

[1:10:32] to promote sustainable Landscaping

[1:10:34] practices at City facilities to conserve

[1:10:37] water enhance biodiversity and

[1:10:39] strengthen resilience to drought and

[1:10:41] climate

[1:10:42] variability this policy applies to all

[1:10:44] new Landscaping installations and

[1:10:47] Rehabilitation projects at City

[1:10:49] facilities which will be managed by the

[1:10:51] park

[1:10:52] superintendent the proposed guidelines

[1:10:54] include native plant

[1:10:56] selection the city encourages the

[1:10:58] selection of California Native drought

[1:11:00] tolerant plants as recommended by the

[1:11:02] California Native Plant Society and the

[1:11:05] Riverside Corona resource Conservation

[1:11:10] District water conservation the city

[1:11:13] will prioritize the use of low water use

[1:11:15] plants and efficient irrigation methods

[1:11:17] to significantly reduce water waste

[1:11:20] moreover Turf elimination Turf will be

[1:11:23] eliminated as a ground for option in

[1:11:26] medians Parkways and for purely

[1:11:28] ornamental

[1:11:31] purposes so why native plants native

[1:11:35] plants improve water conservation native

[1:11:37] plants are naturally adapted to thrive

[1:11:39] in Southern California's Aid climate

[1:11:42] requiring minimal supplemental

[1:11:43] irrigation once established this

[1:11:46] characteristic not only prevents Water

[1:11:48] waste but also eleviate strain on local

[1:11:51] Water

[1:11:52] Resources native plant support biodivers

[1:11:55] iers native plants are vital to noro's

[1:11:58] local ecosystems providing essential

[1:12:00] habitat sources food sources and nesting

[1:12:03] sites for indigenous Wildlife species

[1:12:06] including Birds insects and pollinators

[1:12:08] like bees and

[1:12:10] butterflies they also possess natural

[1:12:12] defenses against pests and diseases

[1:12:15] attracting beneficial insects and

[1:12:17] animals that enhance natural Pest

[1:12:20] Management native plants also adapt to

[1:12:23] climate change these species are

[1:12:25] inherently resilient and adaptable to

[1:12:27] climate variability making them well

[1:12:29] suited to cope with changing

[1:12:31] environmental conditions furthermore

[1:12:34] they advanc sustainability initiatives

[1:12:37] native planting serve as effective tools

[1:12:39] for carbon sequestration by absorbing

[1:12:41] carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and

[1:12:44] storing it in vegetation and soil this

[1:12:47] process mitigates carbon emissions and

[1:12:49] supports broader efforts to combat

[1:12:51] climate change

[1:12:55] the city of Norco is committed to

[1:12:57] partnering with the cnps to utilize

[1:13:00] their expertise on native plants and

[1:13:02] Landscaping through resources like

[1:13:04] calscape which is a database that offers

[1:13:07] detailed information on California

[1:13:09] native plants for Effective

[1:13:11] integration collaborations will also

[1:13:13] extend to the

[1:13:15] rccd which provides valuable services

[1:13:18] including Environmental Education soil

[1:13:20] Health assistance and Native Plant

[1:13:22] propagation or reproduction

[1:13:25] additionally Partnerships with the

[1:13:27] Western Municipal Water District will

[1:13:29] focus on promoting sustainable

[1:13:31] landscaping and securing grant funding

[1:13:33] to replace Turf with drought tolerant

[1:13:35] native plants at City

[1:13:40] facilities attached to this policy is

[1:13:43] the native plant species list the

[1:13:45] California native plant species list

[1:13:47] recommended by the cnps and the rccd

[1:13:51] includes plants that require moderate to

[1:13:53] very low water intake the city is

[1:13:55] committed to incorporating these native

[1:13:57] drought tolerant species were ever

[1:13:59] feasible however factors such as plant

[1:14:02] availability and maintenance

[1:14:04] requirements May necessitate the use of

[1:14:06] alternative drought tolerant plants

[1:14:08] including succulent and cacti when

[1:14:10] native options are not available

[1:14:13] furthermore under Norco municipal code

[1:14:16] alander is prohibited and must not be

[1:14:19] planted or maintained within City

[1:14:22] Limits thank you for your time and I

[1:14:24] will now answer any questions that you

[1:14:26] may have does council have any questions

[1:14:28] well done by the way thank

[1:14:31] you Robin I had a question for you on

[1:14:35] some of the native plants that are uh

[1:14:37] listed uh in the report a couple of

[1:14:42] them they're native so they're not

[1:14:44] invasive but they do have a tendency to

[1:14:46] spread pretty aggressively so when the

[1:14:50] planting decisions are made on the parks

[1:14:53] areas uh I would assume asse the

[1:14:55] superintendent would take that into

[1:14:56] consideration

[1:14:58] correct right yes okay perfect so and

[1:15:02] then just for you know if anybody's

[1:15:04] familiar equisetum or horse tail was

[1:15:07] listed in one of these morning glories

[1:15:10] um know at the a department we fight

[1:15:12] those all the time because we do have

[1:15:13] them planted but they do they're very

[1:15:15] aggressive and take over entire areas so

[1:15:19] just want to make sure as we're

[1:15:20] promoting native plants uh within the

[1:15:23] city and just in general for folks at

[1:15:26] home that they um that were

[1:15:28] communicating clearly with some of these

[1:15:30] that um they can be a bit aggressive in

[1:15:34] nature as far as how they spread so

[1:15:37] thank you for your report thank you

[1:15:39] anything yeah yeah I just I had sent in

[1:15:41] a question earlier just looking because

[1:15:43] when we were looking at doing this

[1:15:44] policy some feedback I had given was

[1:15:46] looking at is there a recommended

[1:15:47] percent of natives um and there wasn't

[1:15:51] from our uh subject matter experts so

[1:15:54] thank you

[1:15:59] GRE good report thank you so you

[1:16:02] graduated yeah I graduated last year all

[1:16:06] right well I know Amanda's happy with

[1:16:09] all your work and she's proud of you um

[1:16:12] couple of things i' and to you and to

[1:16:16] staff that I know you've been doing

[1:16:18] this quite um a while um with with

[1:16:24] Native plants this is nothing new to uh

[1:16:28] you know our staff I do appreciate in

[1:16:30] your report that U you took the time to

[1:16:34] list plants that are also available and

[1:16:37] coste

[1:16:39] effective okay um which is something

[1:16:42] that we should always be aware of

[1:16:47] um when you mentioned Oleander

[1:16:51] okay did we check any of these

[1:16:55] plants or Rec recommendation plants for

[1:16:58] toxicity to

[1:17:01] animals no okay

[1:17:05] so you know when you're looking for

[1:17:08] something to

[1:17:09] do maybe just want to run down that

[1:17:13] list we did not but we could we could

[1:17:15] definitely um look through it again yeah

[1:17:18] I

[1:17:19] mean that's all I have good job

[1:17:21] appreciate it

[1:17:25] any other questions

[1:17:27] bwin stay

[1:17:29] nearby um do we have any public

[1:17:32] comments no public comments on this item

[1:17:34] okay closing that bringing back to

[1:17:36] council for Action sorry mayor we do we

[1:17:40] have one Dylan

[1:17:46] wimple all hello

[1:17:49] again hi uh my name is Dylan wimple here

[1:17:52] as a resident of Norco to comment on the

[1:17:54] policy first I'd like to say thank you

[1:17:55] for Council for provid providing the

[1:17:57] direction and thank you to City staff

[1:17:58] for all of the invested time and effort

[1:18:00] that went into this I appreciate our

[1:18:01] commitment as a city to Green Space I

[1:18:03] would ask for a few clarification points

[1:18:05] and request some minor adjustments if

[1:18:07] possible uh we call out that water is a

[1:18:09] precious a precious resource and

[1:18:11] destructive force a native drought

[1:18:12] tolerant Landscaping policy neglects the

[1:18:15] potential use of riparian and other

[1:18:16] native plants that can help drain

[1:18:18] flooded areas that are prone to flooding

[1:18:20] during seasonal Water Events native

[1:18:22] riparian buffers can be installed to

[1:18:24] infiltrate and soak up storm water

[1:18:25] quickly reducing the burden on our storm

[1:18:26] water infrastructure please allow in

[1:18:29] certain instances high water use plants

[1:18:30] and include them in our storm water

[1:18:32] management plan I don't see any trees on

[1:18:34] the list there's shrubs perals and

[1:18:36] everything else trees are major points

[1:18:38] of biodiversity our native Oaks Willows

[1:18:40] and Cherry support hundreds of species

[1:18:42] of caterpillars and are keystones for

[1:18:43] biodiversity please take the opportunity

[1:18:45] to review our street tree list in a

[1:18:47] future session and work to increase

[1:18:48] native tree options ideally giving

[1:18:50] preference to them when site conditions

[1:18:51] allow long-term care and maintenance

[1:18:53] costs will be reduced so I ask Council

[1:18:55] take the opportunity to invest in

[1:18:57] training City staff on the maintenance

[1:18:58] and care of native plantings this will

[1:19:00] help save on cost for failed

[1:19:01] installations and ensures that the right

[1:19:03] plant is chosen for the right place in

[1:19:05] larger projects I'd ask that bloom

[1:19:07] periods are taken into account to

[1:19:08] support pollinators with forage of

[1:19:09] nectar and pollen throughout the entire

[1:19:11] year smaller installations may be exempt

[1:19:14] as side conditions

[1:19:16] allow if suitable plant material is not

[1:19:18] available aset before switching to a

[1:19:19] non-native option an alternative native

[1:19:22] option or an alternative native size so

[1:19:23] if it's a one gallon that we can only

[1:19:25] find in three gallons or Etc that that

[1:19:27] be given preference and finally I would

[1:19:29] ask that as this effort is a municipal

[1:19:32] program that when we contract out work

[1:19:34] and when we uh push for commercial

[1:19:36] applications that we encourage the

[1:19:38] inclusion of native plants in those so

[1:19:40] potentially and Landscaping contracts I

[1:19:42] know we bid everything out and apply

[1:19:44] weighted scores to everything if we can

[1:19:45] include a native plant weight on our

[1:19:48] analyses and sorry my fault and in

[1:19:52] commercial plantings when we're

[1:19:53] requiring native green or we're

[1:19:55] requiring green space and all of these

[1:19:56] if we can offer support to these

[1:19:58] commercial Endeavors make it easy for

[1:19:59] them to just plug and play an approved

[1:20:01] option that works with their conditions

[1:20:03] and take the burden off of them so that

[1:20:04] it's more easily adapted changes like

[1:20:06] those I think will better reflect our

[1:20:07] city and keep a cohesive vision for the

[1:20:09] entire city and I thank you for your

[1:20:11] time thank you

[1:20:12] sir no further comments mayor all right

[1:20:16] bring you back to council for

[1:20:22] Action I'd just like to comment uh thank

[1:20:25] you to this uh staff and the parks

[1:20:27] department for and facilities for

[1:20:30] already implementing some of this if you

[1:20:31] look at the Cathy aavo Memorial if you

[1:20:33] look at the Veterans area the

[1:20:35] Landscaping in front of the community

[1:20:36] center has all been done already with

[1:20:38] this in mind prior to policy so I want

[1:20:40] to thank staff for being proactive on

[1:20:42] that and with that I will move to

[1:20:45] approve second

[1:21:00] please

[1:21:13] vote motion passes unanimous thank you

[1:21:17] moving on to

[1:21:18] 6B um do we have

[1:21:23] any staff report first of all yes

[1:21:28] yes good evening

[1:21:32] Council this agenda item uh 6B is the

[1:21:36] required annual review of accessory

[1:21:38] building our accessory building

[1:21:40] ordinance was is chapter 1868 of our nor

[1:21:42] municipal code and this is uh

[1:21:45] non-habitable accessory buildings

[1:21:47] consisting primarily of um RV garages

[1:21:50] garages and barns so part of when when

[1:21:54] the count adopted this um this ordinance

[1:21:56] it was required to be um reviewed on an

[1:21:59] annual basis so here we are uh the um

[1:22:02] annual review typically consists of uh

[1:22:05] provides the the council well our

[1:22:07] Planning Commission and city council a

[1:22:09] history of what the changes that have

[1:22:11] been done um uh beginning in 2017 when

[1:22:15] the ordinance was adopted and it

[1:22:17] provides um the number of accessory

[1:22:20] buildings that were approved in the

[1:22:21] prior calendar year and it goes into

[1:22:24] issu isues that may have come up as um

[1:22:26] during the year that may warrant some

[1:22:28] changes so tonight's presentation is

[1:22:30] basically going to focus on uh

[1:22:32] discussion items of uh just issues

[1:22:35] potential changes that have come up in

[1:22:37] the previous year that are worthy for of

[1:22:40] consideration to see if there's any

[1:22:41] potential changes so the first

[1:22:43] discussion item um that um is being

[1:22:46] recommended for discussion is that um in

[1:22:48] the approval of an accessory building

[1:22:50] there's required findings that have to

[1:22:52] be made and there are in ordinance staff

[1:22:55] is recommending uh that an additional

[1:22:58] finding be added so that um when an

[1:23:01] accessory building is approved um that

[1:23:04] we analyze and make sure that there's

[1:23:06] still room to add an Adu of the minimum

[1:23:09] size of 800 square feet um I incorrectly

[1:23:12] mentioned 850 Square F feet but for an

[1:23:14] Adu the minimum size that we have to

[1:23:15] allow is 800 square feet now the reason

[1:23:19] being that um we allow for a detached

[1:23:22] accessory dwelling unit or Adu we allow

[1:23:24] 1,200 sare fet but if they can't meet

[1:23:26] all the requirements we have to add a

[1:23:28] minimum allow 800 square fet that could

[1:23:30] potentially end up in the in the pack if

[1:23:32] it's not you know um feasible anywhere

[1:23:35] else so what we want to add is the

[1:23:37] finding that you know after with the

[1:23:39] approving of this garage for example

[1:23:41] garage there's still room to um add an

[1:23:44] Adu that's not going to obstruct the um

[1:23:46] animal keeping area uh Planning

[1:23:48] Commission reviewed this and they they

[1:23:50] agreed with straff recommendation that a

[1:23:52] finding should be added so the second

[1:23:54] item is that we amend the development

[1:23:56] standards to address conversion of

[1:23:58] accessory buildings into adus so um as

[1:24:01] the council is aware uh in addition to

[1:24:03] allowing a detached new newly

[1:24:05] constructed Adu uh residents do have the

[1:24:08] ability to convert uh an accessory

[1:24:11] building like for

[1:24:12] example a garage into an additional Adu

[1:24:15] so what what uh the discussion was the

[1:24:18] plan with the Planning Commission is

[1:24:19] that we look at the development

[1:24:21] standards of the accessory buildings and

[1:24:24] um potentially amend them to not make it

[1:24:27] as easy I guess to facilitate a

[1:24:30] conversion so what the the Planning

[1:24:31] Commission directed or or recommended

[1:24:33] that we look at the

[1:24:36] um uh the uh RV garages and the RV

[1:24:40] garages are allowed at 1,000 sare ft²

[1:24:42] with an additional 400 square F feet uh

[1:24:44] the recommendation is that we consider

[1:24:46] um removing the additional 400 square F

[1:24:48] feet and maybe making them more narrow

[1:24:51] uh so that they're basically built only

[1:24:52] to accommodate uh RVs or or structure as

[1:24:56] opposed to an additional Adu uh the

[1:24:58] second item for discussion is that we C

[1:25:00] centralize the requirement for an AA or

[1:25:03] an animal keeping open animal keeping

[1:25:04] area in chapter 1868 right now the way

[1:25:07] it's written it just defers to the

[1:25:09] underlying Zone staff has recommended

[1:25:11] that as part of the development

[1:25:12] standards the um the provision for the

[1:25:15] AA uh be specified in in chapter 1868

[1:25:19] and plan commission said yes that's a

[1:25:21] good idea so um the other item for

[1:25:24] discussion is that we codify the number

[1:25:26] of accessory buildings Allowed by type

[1:25:29] um you know for example the code allows

[1:25:32] RV

[1:25:32] garage uh and smaller buildings 864 s

[1:25:36] feet and Barnes um the recommendation is

[1:25:38] that we codify for example that only one

[1:25:41] RV

[1:25:42] garage um with be allowed and not

[1:25:46] several um and that if conditions

[1:25:48] warranted they can apply for a variance

[1:25:50] to allow for more uh another point of

[1:25:52] discussion is that um we did get a a

[1:25:56] letter written by a a property owner

[1:25:58] that we look at the height of of for

[1:26:02] example RV garages versus animal keeping

[1:26:04] structures um right now the height of an

[1:26:06] RV garage is uh the wall actually the

[1:26:09] wall is is uh taller than um 16 ft than

[1:26:13] was it allowed for a um animal keeping

[1:26:15] structure which is limited at at 10 ft

[1:26:18] um and that we consider the concern was

[1:26:21] that we're more permissive for arvi

[1:26:23] garage height as opposed to a barn but

[1:26:26] there was a reason for um why we limited

[1:26:29] it because again for um an RV garage the

[1:26:33] cap is at a th000 square feet for a barn

[1:26:35] it could go much bigger depending on the

[1:26:38] number of animal units and hence you're

[1:26:40] you can go ultimately go transition up

[1:26:42] to 18 ft but it starts low because you

[1:26:45] know you're when it's a big structure

[1:26:47] you're actually breaking up the

[1:26:48] appearance of a big block as opposed to

[1:26:51] um uh as opposed to a big large um um

[1:26:55] Square so uh and finally um increase the

[1:26:59] square footage of buildings except from

[1:27:01] Planning Commission review um let me

[1:27:04] Backtrack on the the height reviewing

[1:27:06] the height the commission said you know

[1:27:07] just basically leave it alone and there

[1:27:09] is a variance process to um you know to

[1:27:12] um warrant discussion for individual

[1:27:14] Property Owners on a case-by Case basis

[1:27:16] so the last point of discussion is that

[1:27:19] um increasing the square footage of

[1:27:22] buildings that are exempt from Planning

[1:27:23] Commission review right now buildings

[1:27:25] that are 240 ft don't require Planning

[1:27:27] Commission review they still have to

[1:27:29] meet with the requirements but they

[1:27:30] don't require Planning Commission review

[1:27:33] the recommendation was that we possibly

[1:27:35] go all the way up to 864 square feet for

[1:27:38] exempt from Planning Commission review

[1:27:40] Planning Commission uh reie uh basically

[1:27:42] said that no let's just leave it how it

[1:27:44] is to only exempt those that are 240

[1:27:46] square fet or less so again part of the

[1:27:50] this is just discussion uh part of the

[1:27:53] um required um anual review of accessory

[1:27:55] building uh ordinance chapter

[1:27:57] 1868 um and discussion for issues and um

[1:28:02] concerns are always discussed as part of

[1:28:04] our review and the purpose of this um

[1:28:07] agenda item is for the uh uh city

[1:28:09] council to review um uh the planning

[1:28:12] commission's recommendations and

[1:28:13] determine whether we should move forward

[1:28:15] with code amendments and with that I

[1:28:17] will conclude and answer any questions

[1:28:18] thank you uh Council have any questions

[1:28:22] bwin

[1:28:30] Greg there we go

[1:28:34] um on that explanation where it was um

[1:28:39] concerned from the property owner that's

[1:28:41] on page 288 of 341 yeah U middle of the

[1:28:45] page Wall height

[1:28:48] um

[1:28:51] so it's on a barn yes it's 10 feet from

[1:28:58] the eve yes right

[1:29:02] but we can go up to 18

[1:29:06] ft right so I don't really understand

[1:29:09] the concern in in this

[1:29:12] case that since it can be larger right

[1:29:17] yes then let's say the RV storage so

[1:29:26] yeah I was just trying to it it didn't

[1:29:28] read real clear to me on that

[1:29:33] um so it goes back to something you said

[1:29:37] earlier um where we can impact pacas or

[1:29:41] animal keeping areas based on what's

[1:29:45] feasible so my question

[1:29:47] is how how do we determine

[1:29:51] feasibility um is as far

[1:29:55] as I don't like the idea of giving up an

[1:29:58] animaling area for an Adu or any other

[1:30:01] structure so um would it be feasible um

[1:30:07] like in a definition to say well you

[1:30:08] have to remove a another structure to

[1:30:11] make your Adu fit instead of impacting

[1:30:14] the animal keeping

[1:30:17] area so definition of what's feasible

[1:30:21] and how would we determine that well

[1:30:24] gener generally speaking what staff um

[1:30:26] was looking at for example um accessory

[1:30:29] buildings these like U garages barns are

[1:30:32] not um they're not an automatic approval

[1:30:35] so it's a discretionary approval by the

[1:30:37] Planning Commission so they can be

[1:30:38] denied M ad cannot they they're

[1:30:41] ministerial they don't have to go before

[1:30:42] the Planning Commission they're approved

[1:30:44] at staff level uh and we have to allow

[1:30:47] them we have to so what we were staff's

[1:30:52] um uh

[1:30:55] consensus on this was basically and in

[1:30:57] the consensus by the Planning Commission

[1:30:59] was that when we look at accessory

[1:31:01] buildings like an nvy garage um we need

[1:31:04] to look and see whether if some in

[1:31:08] addition to that garage if somebody

[1:31:09] comes in and wants to build an Adu we

[1:31:12] want to make sure that there's still

[1:31:13] room for that Adu outside of for

[1:31:17] primarily the animal keeping area so

[1:31:19] basically how they would show that is

[1:31:20] maybe just do like a square of at least

[1:31:23] 800 square Fe showing hey you know you

[1:31:25] guys allow This Barn uh we can still

[1:31:28] make provision for an Adu that's not

[1:31:30] going to be inside the Packa or obstruct

[1:31:33] the access to it so they just they would

[1:31:35] have to show it demonstrate if they

[1:31:38] can't um demonstrate well then I guess

[1:31:40] they would have to reduce the size of

[1:31:42] their um accessory building if they

[1:31:46] can't I'm sure that it could accommodate

[1:31:47] because again if we can accommodate if

[1:31:49] we after applying all the restrictions

[1:31:51] like a Packa access to it all the step

[1:31:54] backs and you can't at least accommodate

[1:31:56] a a new detached 800t Adu it's got to go

[1:32:00] either in the front yard or in what we

[1:32:02] have as our animal keeping area and it

[1:32:04] could be the Packa or the animal keep

[1:32:05] and that's what we want to avoid

[1:32:08] okay I like that we can become proactive

[1:32:11] on this right yes that's the that's the

[1:32:13] intent thanks to you planning staff and

[1:32:16] Planning

[1:32:19] Commission but they you can also put an

[1:32:21] Adu in your front yard you can if that's

[1:32:24] the only place that's left yeah

[1:32:27] MH or take out the animal keeping pretty

[1:32:30] much

[1:32:32] yes

[1:32:35] okay good luck thank

[1:32:37] you C but I appreciate that Alma

[1:32:42] thanks yes what is the cost for a

[1:32:46] variance um it's listed in some cases if

[1:32:49] if this were to go through someone could

[1:32:51] apply for a variance what would the cost

[1:32:52] be for a variance the cost for variance

[1:32:55] in in addition to um the review for the

[1:32:57] accessory building is

[1:33:04] $3,885 and then um to build on what Greg

[1:33:08] had said with the barns I drew myself a

[1:33:10] little picture so I guess I'm thinking

[1:33:12] most of our lots are half acre so the

[1:33:14] way our accessory building ordinance is

[1:33:16] currently written your barn can have 10

[1:33:18] foot walls but it can go quite up to 18

[1:33:22] but your RV garage can have 16t yes so

[1:33:27] in that sense you are allowed a higher

[1:33:29] building right not in the center but on

[1:33:31] the side of your walls um on the same

[1:33:33] size lot yes which was the the instance

[1:33:36] where you know I think that person saw

[1:33:38] an RV garage and thought well I can

[1:33:40] build my barn in a similar fashion and

[1:33:43] then found out that they could not

[1:33:45] correct that it well based on the

[1:33:47] description that they were providing us

[1:33:49] it was intended for a barn so that's

[1:33:50] where the Restriction came in okay and

[1:33:53] then in the staff

[1:33:55] report the recommendation cuz some of

[1:33:58] them had to do with each other so I was

[1:34:00] you know reading them all trying to

[1:34:01] connect all the dots

[1:34:03] um there was a suggestion of limiting

[1:34:07] the size then of the RV garage so that

[1:34:10] it would be a narrow building if the

[1:34:12] walls were that high yes the the

[1:34:14] suggestion basically came from you know

[1:34:17] you're creating situations where you're

[1:34:18] it's not easily converted into

[1:34:20] a Adu so what was the recommendation is

[1:34:24] that to eliminate the additional 400 ft

[1:34:26] that is allowed in addition to 1,000

[1:34:28] square F feet and then um establish some

[1:34:31] kind of limit as to the width of it to

[1:34:33] where it's only wide enough to basically

[1:34:35] accommodate um what's intended for an RV

[1:34:38] or a large vehicle so that way it would

[1:34:42] be more of a skinny building um as

[1:34:45] opposed to something that's wide that

[1:34:46] could be turned into potentially an 18

[1:34:49] okay and then what would the limit be

[1:34:50] because I know one of the

[1:34:51] recommendations later on that that did

[1:34:54] not the Planning

[1:34:56] Commission didn't recommend to adopt was

[1:34:58] to allow more of a ministerial approval

[1:35:00] for buildings that are 864 square feet

[1:35:03] so are we talking about other than an RV

[1:35:05] Garage in that

[1:35:07] instance anything that's 8 uh no it

[1:35:10] would it yes anything the height limit

[1:35:13] to be ministerial would be at at 8 foot

[1:35:15] walls and 14 foot tall so yes it would

[1:35:18] not include an arv

[1:35:21] garage and 86 64 ft and under okay I

[1:35:25] just wanted to follow where all those

[1:35:27] pieces were were coming okay I think

[1:35:29] those are all my questions right now

[1:35:30] thank you

[1:35:33] Robin um what would it take to outright

[1:35:36] ban

[1:35:37] them ban accessory buildings because the

[1:35:41] problem that we have is that we're

[1:35:42] trying to promote animaling large plot

[1:35:45] farming small plot farming we're trying

[1:35:48] to promote a lifestyle of Elbow Room

[1:35:50] with the last one left and so in

[1:35:54] um I'm I'm actually surprised because we

[1:35:57] actually have an Adu being built in the

[1:35:58] front yard on somebody on California

[1:36:00] Avenue and because they claimed they

[1:36:03] didn't have the room in the back when

[1:36:04] they did have room in the back but your

[1:36:07] hands were tied and so I think that if

[1:36:12] we're being forced to do this I think we

[1:36:14] need to get rid of accessory buildings I

[1:36:17] think I I totally get people want to

[1:36:19] park motor homes and those kind of

[1:36:20] things but how many motor homes will

[1:36:23] take to sustain 7,000 rooftops to

[1:36:26] maintain a Halfacre

[1:36:27] parcel what would it take a Cote

[1:36:30] Amendment from uh approved and adopted

[1:36:33] by Council great thank you uh do we have

[1:36:35] any public

[1:36:37] comments no public comments on this item

[1:36:39] right closing public comments bringing

[1:36:41] back to council for comments

[1:36:47] action always was like a good discussion

[1:36:49] with you Kevin so I think Banning

[1:36:54] accessory buildings would be difficult

[1:37:03] um where would I park my horse

[1:37:06] trailer horse trailer isn't as high as a

[1:37:09] motor

[1:37:11] home

[1:37:13] um so are you suggesting all accessory

[1:37:16] buildings or just certain uses like an

[1:37:17] RV garage I think RV garages I think

[1:37:20] that's really what I'm talking I'm

[1:37:21] talking about workshops I'm talking

[1:37:23] about the these big high

[1:37:24] structures that

[1:37:27] um that we've allowed in the past and

[1:37:30] you know you know what you can you can

[1:37:32] blame the city

[1:37:34] council but the reality is this is the

[1:37:38] state doing this this is their fault and

[1:37:42] the reality is I'd rather have a horse

[1:37:44] in the backyard or a workshop in the

[1:37:46] backyard than a frig RV because remember

[1:37:49] Orange Park Acres he used to shoe over

[1:37:52] there guess what what that's RV Heaven

[1:37:55] there's no horses there

[1:37:57] anymore and it's not even so much the

[1:37:59] horses it's that we are becoming RV

[1:38:03] heaven and so I I'm not even proposing

[1:38:06] we do that but I think that the reality

[1:38:08] is is they put in an RV you have animal

[1:38:10] keeping so it goes on top of that or it

[1:38:13] goes in the front yard and if we buck

[1:38:15] that we'd have the privilege of the

[1:38:17] State of California saying guess what

[1:38:19] you people don't know how to Zone and

[1:38:21] they're just going to rip your zoning

[1:38:22] away and I see the leac cities guy he's

[1:38:24] shaking his head they're shaking their

[1:38:25] head up and down up and down you don't

[1:38:27] think that won't

[1:38:29] happen that's why we can't play around

[1:38:32] as Council people and I'm not saying we

[1:38:33] do but this is a very serious situation

[1:38:37] they walk up to the counter they slap it

[1:38:39] down say I'm building an Adu and I'm

[1:38:40] going to put it in my front yard because

[1:38:42] in my opinion it doesn't fit in the

[1:38:45] backyard so I think we really need to we

[1:38:48] need to be coldhearted on this and maybe

[1:38:51] go to our legislators I mean I know it

[1:38:53] doesn't help because we're on the wrong

[1:38:55] side of the aisle but the reality is is

[1:38:59] that is the reality and we're trying to

[1:39:01] protect the last one we're the last

[1:39:03] Community like

[1:39:04] this so you know a lot of people right

[1:39:07] now you right now we're hearing about

[1:39:09] the flight from the cities because of

[1:39:11] the disasters they' become and Norco is

[1:39:13] a Target and by the way just so we're

[1:39:15] clear everybody thinks we're so

[1:39:17] expensive we're cheap compared to you

[1:39:20] know what you buy a postage stamp in Los

[1:39:22] VES you're going to pay $2 million and

[1:39:25] it's it's half the size of this room so

[1:39:29] I don't know I'm not saying we do it but

[1:39:31] I think we need to be serious about this

[1:39:34] are we going to be RV Heaven I get the

[1:39:36] horse trailer situation maybe we need to

[1:39:38] do some investigation in terms of that

[1:39:42] but it's the adus and I and we are doing

[1:39:45] everything we possibly can to legalize

[1:39:49] adus School District doesn't want to

[1:39:51] play ball with us that's what what's

[1:39:53] happening they they're like hey we need

[1:39:55] that money it's not my fault there're I

[1:39:57] mean I know what everybody says but

[1:39:59] school district is not in great

[1:40:00] financial shape I don't care what

[1:40:02] anybody says right now nobody can be in

[1:40:04] good shape because we don't know what's

[1:40:05] going to happen we all pretend like you

[1:40:08] know nothing's happening there's no

[1:40:09] recession it's a crazy it's a crazy time

[1:40:13] and all I'm trying to do is protect our

[1:40:15] lifestyle how do we do that and how do

[1:40:18] we make those hard choices I mean you

[1:40:20] know Greg you and I we I mean my first

[1:40:22] meeting we were talking about this right

[1:40:24] Berwin that was my first topic of

[1:40:26] discussion were were huge

[1:40:30] buildings

[1:40:31] so we have to we have to decide how does

[1:40:35] this fit into our scheme of what we want

[1:40:38] Norco to look like in 25 years that's

[1:40:42] the key we lose animals or small lot uh

[1:40:45] if we lose what keeps the large

[1:40:48] Lots the next councils are going to come

[1:40:51] along and they're just going to cut them

[1:40:53] up because the way communities like ours

[1:40:56] fall is they go well you know what if we

[1:40:58] just reone that part that'll bring us

[1:41:00] enough property tax that we'll be able

[1:41:03] to take care of this part but then

[1:41:04] eventually you go well that part's not

[1:41:06] so expensive and besides that those

[1:41:08] streets are kind of old and then if you

[1:41:09] get districts then this District what

[1:41:11] they'll do is they'll say well I don't

[1:41:14] care about that it's happening Riverside

[1:41:15] they're going to run those lines right

[1:41:16] through one of their own districts I

[1:41:19] mean you don't think that won't happen

[1:41:20] in Norco

[1:41:23] so I don't mean to I just what do you

[1:41:26] guys want to do how do we want to

[1:41:27] protect it can I yeah please thanks I'm

[1:41:30] I'm

[1:41:31] done no you're not

[1:41:37] um on your discussion

[1:41:39] item

[1:41:41] um explain a little more on the last

[1:41:44] item increase the square footage of a

[1:41:45] building exempt from Planning Commission

[1:41:48] review and what was what specifics with

[1:41:53] that that and what was the planning

[1:41:55] commission's um

[1:41:57] opinion so uh the the to give you a

[1:42:00] little more explanation on that right

[1:42:02] now um accessory buildings like

[1:42:04] workshops that are no taller than 14t to

[1:42:07] the peak and 8ot to the wall if they're

[1:42:09] 240 feet or less we review them over the

[1:42:13] counter they don't have to go to

[1:42:14] Planning Commission 240 240 okay the

[1:42:17] recommendation here was to increase the

[1:42:19] exemption to for buildings up to 864 ft

[1:42:23] where we would just approve them at

[1:42:25] staff level and the reason for that is

[1:42:27] that those are rarely an issue they're

[1:42:29] very easily able to accommodate all the

[1:42:32] requirements and I have not seen one

[1:42:34] that has been denied by Planning

[1:42:36] Commission because usually when they get

[1:42:37] there they've met all the requirements

[1:42:38] so it would be easier for the uh members

[1:42:41] of the community to get those approved

[1:42:43] because they're they're smaller Planning

[1:42:45] Commission said no let's let's leave it

[1:42:47] as it is 240 we want those to keep

[1:42:49] coming to the Planning Commission that

[1:42:51] was our recommendation and um yeah

[1:42:53] that's okay so

[1:42:55] currently we're just stopping at 240 for

[1:42:59] staff approval correct that's the code

[1:43:00] that's the way it's it's

[1:43:02] codified nothing against staff I concur

[1:43:05] though with the Planning Commission

[1:43:06] recommendation only for an extra set

[1:43:09] ofis yes right

[1:43:13] um you know like we talked earlier about

[1:43:17] feasibility right okay

[1:43:21] um that's all I have right now thank you

[1:43:23] anybody

[1:43:25] else do we have a motion do we have a

[1:43:29] thought

[1:43:30] discussion we've already asked for

[1:43:32] public

[1:43:35] com so if if I can kind of help guide

[1:43:38] the discussion a little bit um yeah so

[1:43:40] again this is just a discussion this is

[1:43:42] just uh to get some input on whether we

[1:43:44] should move forward so if I can start

[1:43:46] with the first item uh the first item is

[1:43:48] whether we should go ahead and um come

[1:43:50] back with at a future time I mean this

[1:43:52] is not something think it's in a hurry

[1:43:54] but that we should come back with a um

[1:43:57] uh an amendment for a finding that you

[1:44:00] know they can still accommodated ad

[1:44:02] you that's my question yeah so to go by

[1:44:05] one by one by these and see yes I love

[1:44:07] that so I agree with the first

[1:44:11] bullet does anybody else not

[1:44:14] agree okay

[1:44:18] okay okay so that's that's okay and the

[1:44:21] second one is amend the standards for

[1:44:22] example the commission told us to focus

[1:44:24] on just um the um RV garages to where

[1:44:28] you know maybe put us a limit on how how

[1:44:31] wide they can be and eliminate the 400

[1:44:33] sare F feet additional 400 square feet

[1:44:36] and then can you just review almost so

[1:44:38] what if it's not an RV garage how large

[1:44:39] could someone they they could no longer

[1:44:41] be, 1400 square feet right because that

[1:44:43] was only well it's not I mean again The

[1:44:46] Way It Was Written it's a large vehicle

[1:44:48] so it could be a large truck I mean

[1:44:50] pickup truck it could be just a large

[1:44:52] vehicle

[1:44:54] so then that would limmit all buildings

[1:44:56] to 1,000 square F feet just what's for a

[1:44:59] large vehicle parking building which for

[1:45:00] example we keep using the RV because

[1:45:02] that was the was the original right so

[1:45:04] I'm exempting animal keeping from

[1:45:06] because that depends on animal units but

[1:45:07] let's say I wanted to build a workshop

[1:45:09] what's the size limit for my workshop

[1:45:11] 864 feet okay this would be just for the

[1:45:14] ones that are 100 1,000 square feet and

[1:45:16] an additional 400 square feet on the

[1:45:18] side so the suggestion is to amend that

[1:45:22] that type of building

[1:45:23] only to where we would no longer allow

[1:45:26] an additional squ ft it's just a th000

[1:45:28] ft and then just make a maximum uh a

[1:45:32] what is it width to where it's you know

[1:45:35] it's intended only to accommodate a

[1:45:37] large vehicle and not converted into to

[1:45:39] a house okay so you could have your

[1:45:40] animal keeping

[1:45:42] facility and up to 864 square feet for

[1:45:45] some other kind of Workshop out building

[1:45:49] or an RV structure that would be

[1:45:54] below a th000 square feet I'm assuming

[1:45:56] well it would stay a thousand but you

[1:45:57] would make it just more narrow so it

[1:45:59] could be long and skinny yeah that's

[1:46:02] that's kind of what would they ask us to

[1:46:03] consider but again okay I just want to

[1:46:05] make sure I'm understanding the

[1:46:06] recommendations yeah and again we would

[1:46:08] just come back with the recommendation

[1:46:09] for how we would change it if if the

[1:46:11] council decides uh determines that we

[1:46:13] should move forward with uh a code

[1:46:15] Amendment okay yeah mayor if I may so I

[1:46:17] think that the general direction is good

[1:46:19] we can what you decide today we'll draft

[1:46:21] and then you can ultimately decide

[1:46:22] tomorrow modify as you give them more

[1:46:27] thought any other comments

[1:46:32] yeah Al on

[1:46:35] that vehicle parking buildings versus

[1:46:39] the large animal keeping shelters MH

[1:46:42] should they be the same height what

[1:46:43] height are you talking about the Wall

[1:46:46] height the Wall height yes okay what how

[1:46:48] tall are you talking about the the

[1:46:51] concern was that for a large L vehicle

[1:46:53] parking building like an RV garage we

[1:46:55] allow Wall height of

[1:46:58] 18t 16 my my apologies 16 feet and then

[1:47:01] ultimate Peak height at 18 feet for an

[1:47:04] animal keeping structure the Wall height

[1:47:06] maximum is 10 feet but but it could you

[1:47:09] know kind of go up to um the peak height

[1:47:12] maximum at 18 so that's where the

[1:47:15] concern the concern was like Hey you

[1:47:17] know you allow a taller wall high for an

[1:47:19] Arvy than you do for an animal keeping

[1:47:21] structure but there was a reason for

[1:47:23] that when back in 2017 when all of this

[1:47:26] was drafted so that that was the

[1:47:30] conc taller the wall is on a horse

[1:47:33] barn the harder the temperature control

[1:47:37] for the animals is that's why most of

[1:47:40] them standard are about 8 ft everywhere

[1:47:43] and you go on up to 12 or M 14 then

[1:47:48] you're going to have a hard time

[1:47:50] controlling the the temperature like the

[1:47:53] cold weather it's colder in there in a

[1:47:55] taller building it's hotter in the

[1:47:57] summertime in a taller building so I

[1:48:00] couldn't imagine I mean there's some

[1:48:01] people probably do it but

[1:48:04] uh I couldn't imagine having one animal

[1:48:08] keeping Barn 18t walls on it or 16

[1:48:11] whatever Planning Commission said just

[1:48:14] they their consensus was just leave it

[1:48:15] as as it is if somebody needs a variance

[1:48:18] we can consider it on a Case by case

[1:48:20] basis

[1:48:21] so and staff concurs with anyway that's

[1:48:24] my

[1:48:26] nickelsworth so I'm

[1:48:29] sorry Rob you're okay

[1:48:32] um where was

[1:48:39] it I want to let that wall height slip

[1:48:42] away yet

[1:48:48] um I'm still thinking about this well I

[1:48:51] think I'm okay on the the build an

[1:48:53] exemption on the square footage um you

[1:48:56] know as Berwin said I think based on

[1:48:59] that letter um 10 foot

[1:49:02] high from the the Eve for animal keeping

[1:49:06] is fine right

[1:49:10] um and you can go up to

[1:49:13] 16 at the ridge 18 at thege 18 on the

[1:49:17] ridge all the way still an animal an yes

[1:49:20] you it could just kind of progress all

[1:49:24] right I think I'm good with all these

[1:49:26] discussion items to okay

[1:49:29] yeah let staff move forward a little bit

[1:49:32] more with the

[1:49:35] commission okay so it sounds like

[1:49:36] there's consensus based on a

[1:49:38] recommendation yeah clarification

[1:49:40] clarifying question you say move forward

[1:49:42] with the commission because they gave

[1:49:44] their feedback on this I just want to

[1:49:46] make sure understand what you're saying

[1:49:47] well yeah but I mean staff would what

[1:49:49] the commission tying some of these

[1:49:51] discussion items together and I would

[1:49:53] assume that you

[1:49:55] would whatever these changes are run it

[1:49:58] at the Planning Commission yeah so it

[1:50:00] sounds like the clation that uh

[1:50:03] Catherine um council member Alman is

[1:50:05] saying is move forward with with the

[1:50:07] recommendations of the Planning

[1:50:08] Commission and come back with a code uh

[1:50:10] code amendment to address all of them

[1:50:12] how based on the recommendation so all

[1:50:14] that would come back I guess what I was

[1:50:16] saying then is if there's any other

[1:50:17] little changes is

[1:50:20] discussion what has to come back in to

[1:50:22] run that to plan yeah it oh I see yeah

[1:50:26] the actual yes the ordinances will go

[1:50:28] that in then they'll come back to us

[1:50:29] with the actual fleshed out language so

[1:50:32] so we're good

[1:50:35] okay okay moving

[1:50:37] on thank you

[1:50:39] [Music]

[1:50:40] um mayor if I may yes might be if if you

[1:50:43] I would suggest we take item D next

[1:50:46] since I know we have you have a

[1:50:48] colleague from the mayor from City of

[1:50:49] camesa here all right so we will jump to

[1:50:52] d uh consider the city's city of Norco

[1:50:56] current participation League of

[1:50:57] California cities and future

[1:50:58] participation in California contract

[1:51:00] cities

[1:51:01] Association Lori thank you mayor so this

[1:51:03] was brought up at a prior on June 5th

[1:51:06] council meeting to come back to you for

[1:51:08] a discussion so we've provided you with

[1:51:11] some information about both about the

[1:51:12] league of California cities the members

[1:51:15] um the member benefits that we receive

[1:51:17] the du's amounts and so forth so and we

[1:51:20] do have tonight our um our regional

[1:51:22] public affairs manager Jesse Ramirez is

[1:51:24] here and then yeah I just learned

[1:51:26] tonight Linda Molina from the city of

[1:51:28] camesa is here tonight so they're here

[1:51:30] on this item so really we're looking for

[1:51:32] direction from you on this item with

[1:51:35] regard to our membership in the league

[1:51:37] of cities I provided some comments to

[1:51:39] you in the staff report and then also as

[1:51:41] part of that discussion you it was um

[1:51:43] direction to also for you to discuss

[1:51:45] contract cities so contract City

[1:51:47] separate organization about 80 members

[1:51:49] most of those members virtually all

[1:51:51] those members are also cities members

[1:51:53] they're really focused on cities that

[1:51:56] have that Contract Services model like

[1:51:58] we do here um and they provide other

[1:52:00] sorts of levels of of advocacy and

[1:52:04] support to cities that provide Contract

[1:52:07] Services through the contract model the

[1:52:09] Lakewood plan if you will to the

[1:52:10] old-timers that's what it was called so

[1:52:13] with that we're just looking for your

[1:52:14] direction and discussion great um so

[1:52:19] I'll just bring it to council for

[1:52:20] comments I guess because I was the one

[1:52:22] that kind of started this ball rolling

[1:52:23] and the reason I did is uh I was having

[1:52:27] some issues with some of the things that

[1:52:28] were occurring but a lot of those issues

[1:52:29] have now gone

[1:52:31] away um the new chair of the state folks

[1:52:38] uh is actually from Ranch kukamonga we

[1:52:40] had a we have a very like interest in

[1:52:43] that both of our cities are trying to

[1:52:45] figure out a way to fairly receive some

[1:52:48] of the funding coming from uh the

[1:52:51] warehousing and the issue with the

[1:52:52] warehousing of course is that for

[1:52:54] whatever reason they kind of pulled the

[1:52:55] rug out from under us we get the trucks

[1:52:57] they get the money and so that was

[1:53:01] extremely upsetting but what most upset

[1:53:03] me was the fact that the uh League of

[1:53:05] California cities we actually had a

[1:53:08] decision to go forward with trying to

[1:53:09] make it more fair and what happened was

[1:53:12] the cities that had the warehouses and

[1:53:15] were making all this money they went

[1:53:16] outside the league and there were no

[1:53:19] ramifications and they lobbied actually

[1:53:21] against the position of our city um then

[1:53:25] there was sort of a purge of a lot of

[1:53:27] the folks that um were from our region

[1:53:31] and there was a purge at the state level

[1:53:35] a lot of that has now changed um we

[1:53:39] Aaron sassy was was a pretty outstanding

[1:53:44] um uh Regional rep for us and this last

[1:53:48] meeting I have to say was really

[1:53:49] excellent I now kind of wish everybody

[1:53:51] had been there uh it was really put

[1:53:53] together well I really appreciated it I

[1:53:56] sense there's a big change coming I had

[1:53:58] a long talk with um the rep that if

[1:54:03] that's the rep for rev and tax revenue

[1:54:06] and Taxation um there's a new direction

[1:54:09] that appears we can go is the Inland

[1:54:11] Empire um these are all very interesting

[1:54:14] changes the reason that I thought about

[1:54:16] maybe going to contract cities is the

[1:54:18] fact that contract cities seems to be

[1:54:23] more in touch with what this housing is

[1:54:28] really doing to cities it's destroying

[1:54:30] them and it's it's it's literally C it's

[1:54:33] literally giving developers a license to

[1:54:35] steal and we're facing it right now in

[1:54:38] the city of Norco and

[1:54:40] so that said

[1:54:43] the the contract cities are pretty weak

[1:54:47] at the moment in the Inland Empire I'm

[1:54:50] also sensing that Within the Inland

[1:54:53] Empire there is a new Strength um in

[1:54:56] terms of the cities that are coming

[1:54:58] together there's a real frustration with

[1:55:01] how Northern California is kind of

[1:55:03] pushing us around so my personal opinion

[1:55:07] is is I think we need to and and not

[1:55:09] that it's me but it looks like I'm about

[1:55:11] ready to be the chair of revent tax

[1:55:13] which means I will have the ability to

[1:55:15] really tune get in touch and in tune

[1:55:18] with ranch kukamonga and I'm very

[1:55:21] pleased uh that that may happen um I

[1:55:25] also think let's just face it League of

[1:55:28] cities the most important part A lot of

[1:55:30] times of the conferences is that we're

[1:55:32] connecting with the other cities um I

[1:55:35] know a lot of the Cities now that have

[1:55:36] left that I was talking to with before

[1:55:38] are now coming back to the league of

[1:55:40] cities and so with that said um I'm I'm

[1:55:44] open to discussions and that kind of

[1:55:45] thing but I just wanted to to let you

[1:55:47] know that my position is I think at

[1:55:50] least for the coming year we need to

[1:55:51] stay with the Le with the league um do

[1:55:54] we have any comments or anything

[1:55:59] questions okay um would would you mind

[1:56:02] if we invited up uh our league

[1:56:06] representative or our our Inland Empire

[1:56:09] chairman I don't know well I just want

[1:56:11] to make sure I can come on up and then

[1:56:14] we'll have public comments after

[1:56:18] that long time no see thank you for this

[1:56:21] opportunity uh my name is Linda Molina

[1:56:24] I'm here from a city much like uh Norco

[1:56:27] calesa it's a rural City we're just a

[1:56:29] little bit smaller by population and

[1:56:31] square footage square miles I should say

[1:56:34] but I'm really here um as president of

[1:56:36] Riverside County Cal cities and here to

[1:56:39] talk to the value of Cal cities this

[1:56:42] year has been so challenging every year

[1:56:44] we have at least, 1500 new bills good

[1:56:47] ones bad ones and it's up to the city's

[1:56:50] representatives to sorted out and work

[1:56:54] together and I think this year more than

[1:56:56] any other year prior Partnerships are

[1:56:59] key getting information out is key and

[1:57:02] so we have as president of ight County

[1:57:05] and when I heard that there was some

[1:57:07] discussion for Norco I thought it

[1:57:09] prudent to come and show my support and

[1:57:12] re reiterate how important it is to for

[1:57:15] our cities for funding success for um

[1:57:19] getting information out and and

[1:57:21] encouraging all members of of the city

[1:57:24] not just councils and thank you mayor

[1:57:26] bash for for letting me talk here in

[1:57:28] Council and City staff and Community I

[1:57:31] appreciate this but um funding funding

[1:57:34] success and education and and awareness

[1:57:38] is key and so I think what we've done in

[1:57:40] Riverside county is we have this year re

[1:57:43] reached out to San Bernardino Division

[1:57:46] and Mountain cities division we're

[1:57:47] looking at Imperial County LA and Orange

[1:57:50] County we're all in the same boat we all

[1:57:52] have core issues we're all uniquely

[1:57:54] different but the key thing is sorting

[1:57:58] through the bad laws and the good laws

[1:58:00] and supporting each other in that

[1:58:01] respect and so I thought it prudent for

[1:58:03] me to come here tonight to tell you

[1:58:05] there is a value in Cal cities it's not

[1:58:08] a perfect system just like any

[1:58:09] everything else but um it's worked it's

[1:58:12] working well in Riverside County and I

[1:58:14] hope that you will continue to support

[1:58:17] Riverside County excuse me there are

[1:58:19] seven policy committees we encourage

[1:58:22] all cities to participate in those it

[1:58:25] gives you a just like a council has five

[1:58:27] or seven different perspectives and you

[1:58:29] make a decision as a whole the policy

[1:58:32] committees are designed for the same

[1:58:33] thing you give your input and then the

[1:58:36] the the board hopefully listens and and

[1:58:37] we move forward and we're successful and

[1:58:40] so I think we've done well this year the

[1:58:41] evil housing laws are just that um

[1:58:45] funding is is being challenged at the

[1:58:47] from the federal level all the way down

[1:58:48] to the city level and um Partnerships

[1:58:51] are are what working and getting

[1:58:53] information out so we have uh member

[1:58:55] meetings every other month we encourage

[1:58:58] council members to come we encourage

[1:58:59] encourage city managers we have

[1:59:01] trainings this is this the strength of

[1:59:03] Kel cities is the trainings new elected

[1:59:05] trainings Brown act ethics um those are

[1:59:09] key for successful for new for newly

[1:59:12] electeds I remember when I first um got

[1:59:14] on Council it was it there was a

[1:59:16] learning curve and and you don't really

[1:59:19] realize what the job is until you get in

[1:59:20] that seat so so I hope that you'll

[1:59:23] consider keeping uh strength in Cal

[1:59:26] cities by participating and joining us

[1:59:28] at our member cities I invite you invite

[1:59:30] you all to come if you haven't been um

[1:59:33] I'm I'm president this year of Riverside

[1:59:34] County so I'm very proud to do so um

[1:59:37] it's a passion for me to mainly get

[1:59:40] information out and get input from every

[1:59:42] city that's the only way we're going to

[1:59:44] succeed is to have our voice heard and

[1:59:46] so I'm here just just to say that please

[1:59:49] um keep our our our County Strong

[1:59:52] and um and be active I know Jesse has a

[1:59:55] few things to say as well but um that

[1:59:58] was the most important thing that I

[2:00:00] wanted to to share is how important it

[2:00:02] is for us to have our voice heard

[2:00:03] because we have a lot to say thank you

[2:00:06] thank

[2:00:07] you hi Jesse good evening uh mayor and

[2:00:12] council members uh thank you for your

[2:00:13] time staff thank you for your time uh I

[2:00:16] just want to give you guys a quick

[2:00:17] overview and I want to start um uh at

[2:00:20] this housing conversation with Adu since

[2:00:22] it was fresh um we hired a housing

[2:00:25] lobbyist shortly after I was hired there

[2:00:27] in November uh he joined our team in

[2:00:30] January and he hit the road running um

[2:00:33] we have been playing defense uh as you

[2:00:35] can imagine in Sacramento with some of

[2:00:37] these housing laws coming through but

[2:00:39] folks we have some real serious laws

[2:00:41] coming out um currently that we're

[2:00:44] opposing um ab1 1885 which uh enacts

[2:00:48] Builder remedy for cities who haven't uh

[2:00:50] had their housing element

[2:00:52] uh approved is a big one they're

[2:00:54] changing the housing element our housing

[2:00:56] lobbyists worked with the Senate to

[2:00:58] provide them with information on why hcd

[2:01:01] should be audited and that's happening I

[2:01:04] mean we're doing some really cool stuff

[2:01:06] uh at the state level uh in and really

[2:01:08] trying to protect that local zoning

[2:01:10] control so I just wanted to start off

[2:01:11] with that um I do want to give you a

[2:01:13] quick uh just overview of Kel City's uh

[2:01:16] as it is I'm going to break this down

[2:01:18] into three different areas education

[2:01:20] advocacy and then our political side um

[2:01:23] our advocacy uh we have a legislative

[2:01:25] director named Jason Ry and we have six

[2:01:27] lobbyists at the state level that are

[2:01:28] here to serve you um those areas include

[2:01:31] Housing Development Public Safety power

[2:01:34] energy and

[2:01:35] transportation environmental Tax and

[2:01:37] Revenue governance transparency and

[2:01:39] Labor Relations uh and this year at our

[2:01:42] legislative Summit our our uh lobbyist

[2:01:44] did a really good job of connecting our

[2:01:46] delegation to some of those members on

[2:01:48] key committees uh and so we had a really

[2:01:50] good conversation with those Folks up in

[2:01:52] Sacramento around some of our regional

[2:01:54] issues uh education just for next year

[2:01:56] already we have a total of eight events

[2:01:59] on the calendar uh Mayors and Council

[2:02:01] Academy a city manager conference a

[2:02:03] planning Commissioners conference Public

[2:02:05] Works officers Institute uh city leaders

[2:02:08] Summit which is our advocacy day in

[2:02:10] Sacramento uh our city attorneys

[2:02:12] conference and our annual conference

[2:02:14] those conferences are outside of our

[2:02:16] division uh conferences we have a total

[2:02:19] of like M Linda mentioned six division

[2:02:22] meetings per year and we're adding two

[2:02:24] more next year one of them is going to

[2:02:26] be a workshop for planning Commissioners

[2:02:27] to better understand the laws and better

[2:02:30] understand their responsibilities as

[2:02:31] count as as planning Commissioners uh a

[2:02:34] lot of folks uh in different areas of

[2:02:36] the state their planning Commissioners

[2:02:37] are not dealing with the types of

[2:02:39] projects that we're dealing with here in

[2:02:40] Riverside County and so that was super

[2:02:43] important to them and so I've added that

[2:02:45] I've gotten approval from Kel cities to

[2:02:47] do that within the division so we'll be

[2:02:48] doing that next year as well um the last

[2:02:51] last aspect that I wanted to discuss was

[2:02:53] the political arm of Kel cities as you

[2:02:55] all know we have a fundraiser every

[2:02:57] division has a fundraiser once a year

[2:02:58] for City pack this pack goes toward

[2:03:01] ballot measures that are directly

[2:03:03] affecting negatively affecting local

[2:03:05] control um this year we had a big win

[2:03:07] with the cbrt ballot measure the Supreme

[2:03:10] Court ruled it out uh but that would

[2:03:11] have uh really impacted cities

[2:03:13] negatively from a financial planning

[2:03:15] process as well as a collection of fees

[2:03:17] process Kel cities uh approached this in

[2:03:20] a three-way approach we did a legal

[2:03:22] Amicus brief where we fought it legally

[2:03:24] we did a legislative approach where we

[2:03:26] submitted ACA 13 and and put out a uh

[2:03:30] opposition ballot measure and then we

[2:03:32] ran a PR campaign where we submitted

[2:03:34] over 220 resolutions from cities across

[2:03:37] the state opposing this ballot measure

[2:03:39] um as you may have heard uh at our last

[2:03:41] meeting and I think mayor bash alluded

[2:03:43] to it we got an update from our DA's

[2:03:45] office as well as Sheriff bianco's

[2:03:47] office on uh prop 36 this is the

[2:03:50] District Attorney's ballot measure that

[2:03:52] is uh aiming to repeal some aspects of

[2:03:55] Prop 47 Kel City's board did vote to

[2:03:58] support that measure and so we we're

[2:04:00] going to be the face of that campaign

[2:04:01] here in Riverside County um Kel cities

[2:04:04] has again an aspect of of uh in kind

[2:04:07] donation through my time uh that I will

[2:04:10] put forth toward that that effort and so

[2:04:12] um those are three the three advocacy

[2:04:14] areas that we really approach um our our

[2:04:17] legislative and and uh I guess

[2:04:20] policymaking decisions from so I'd be

[2:04:23] happy to answer any questions in the

[2:04:24] report um but that's kind of a general

[2:04:26] update on on how Kel City operates and

[2:04:29] what we're doing here in Riverside

[2:04:30] County in addition to that I want to

[2:04:32] throw one last thing out there we we as

[2:04:34] as Linda mentioned we this is the first

[2:04:36] year we've actually partnered with

[2:04:38] sanino County and Mountain division um

[2:04:41] our strategy going in and this was uh a

[2:04:43] lot a lot to do with Linda's leadership

[2:04:45] here was to put all of these divisions

[2:04:48] not together as one division but to talk

[2:04:50] about similar issues warehousing

[2:04:52] warehousing sales tax being one of them

[2:04:55] um and what we've learned is that in the

[2:04:59] first meeting we had over 220 attendees

[2:05:01] housing homelessness warehousing these

[2:05:04] are all issues that impact us

[2:05:05] differently than other areas of the

[2:05:07] state and so being able to put the

[2:05:09] numbers together through Kel cities has

[2:05:11] been very important with that being said

[2:05:13] we also have an incoming president from

[2:05:15] rancha kukamonga um council member Lynn

[2:05:19] um gosh dang it I'm forgetting ly

[2:05:21] Kennedy thank you um she'll be our

[2:05:23] incoming president and so we'll have a

[2:05:25] regional president and I'm really hoping

[2:05:27] that uh between the collaboration of

[2:05:29] both of those divisions we really move

[2:05:31] some some good policy forward next year

[2:05:33] so thank you do anybody have any

[2:05:37] questions okay thank you sir yep um

[2:05:40] moving to public comments I have no

[2:05:42] public comments mayor bring back to

[2:05:44] councel

[2:05:52] well it would be my suggestion we stay

[2:05:53] with League of cities at least for the

[2:05:54] next year um one of the things I forgot

[2:05:56] to mention was the fact that for the

[2:05:58] first time we're linking with three

[2:06:00] other counties that has never happened

[2:06:01] before that's a huge positive step um

[2:06:05] and that's while acknowledging maybe the

[2:06:07] last year was not the strongest year

[2:06:08] that we've had because of the

[2:06:10] transition but I would also sort of want

[2:06:13] to wait on the contract cities simply

[2:06:15] because they're really just sort of

[2:06:18] establishing in um Riverside County

[2:06:22] um I don't think they have that many

[2:06:24] cities and I think they're also kind of

[2:06:27] reeling because the Three Counties

[2:06:29] coming together has never happened

[2:06:31] before so it would

[2:06:33] be my recommendation that we go ahead

[2:06:36] and we we stick it out for another year

[2:06:38] and just kind of see what happens

[2:06:39] because I really do see some positive

[2:06:41] things

[2:06:46] happening do we that's a motion oh go

[2:06:51] for my next

[2:06:52] yeah we're going to be discussing uh the

[2:06:54] Supreme Court decision on homelessness

[2:06:55] and homelessness encampments uh we're

[2:06:57] going to have a really good panel to

[2:06:59] discuss that so I encourage all of you

[2:07:00] to come out to that it'll be September

[2:07:02] 9th I'll be sending out the flyer early

[2:07:04] next week thank

[2:07:05] you anyway that's a motion to stay with

[2:07:08] the league of cities for the next year

[2:07:11] and uh kind of just keep an eye on the

[2:07:13] contract cities and see how they grow

[2:07:15] and and I'd like to see how this Tri

[2:07:17] County thing works by the way another

[2:07:19] piece of that is that we are position in

[2:07:22] ourselves in terms of the tech bridge

[2:07:24] and the reason I'm bringing up the tech

[2:07:26] bridge is because we are the center it's

[2:07:29] not something that can be taken from us

[2:07:31] by an education U Consortium although

[2:07:34] parts of it are a little bit but we are

[2:07:37] in the center of it and I I am hoping

[2:07:40] that we might be able to within the

[2:07:42] Norco Corona maybe the Eastville area we

[2:07:45] might be able to utilize League of

[2:07:47] cities to help us strengthen the tech

[2:07:49] Bridge nobody else has what we have have

[2:07:51] in our city so we're not just a one

[2:07:53] horse Town we're not just a sports

[2:07:55] Capital we could actually be a technical

[2:07:57] hub for the entire Riverside sanino

[2:08:00] County so it be nice to have help to do

[2:08:03] that thank

[2:08:08] okay please vote

[2:08:27] and motion passes unanimous thank you

[2:08:29] thank you

[2:08:31] guys uh moving back to does can we keep

[2:08:35] going do we need a break are we all

[2:08:37] right okay moving on to

[2:08:40] 6C um uh before you begin I'd like to

[2:08:43] recuse myself I have a conflict of

[2:08:44] interest do the due to the location of

[2:08:46] my personal

[2:08:48] property oh you going to miss all the

[2:08:50] fun

[2:09:07] so first have a staff report yes uh good

[2:09:10] evening Council this agenda item 6C is

[2:09:13] um a request for an extension of 12

[2:09:16] month extension of time to record uh the

[2:09:19] final map for uh tenative partial map 9

[2:09:22] excuse me

[2:09:24] 37939 with a new expiration dat of

[2:09:26] September 7th 2025 as the council may

[2:09:29] recall this um map was approved in

[2:09:33] conjunction with the mixed use

[2:09:34] development back in September 7th 2021

[2:09:37] the map was approved for two years and

[2:09:39] would expire unless it's extended uh

[2:09:43] last year uh which was the expiration

[2:09:45] date of September 7th 2023 uh last year

[2:09:48] the council granted um the first of six

[2:09:50] allowed uh map extensions uh with a new

[2:09:53] expiration date of September 7th

[2:09:56] 2024 the um request before you this

[2:09:58] evening is to extend um that date to uh

[2:10:02] 20 September 7th

[2:10:04] 2025 uh and staff is recommending

[2:10:07] approval uh the applicant is here and um

[2:10:11] we can answer any questions that the

[2:10:12] commission may have I also also point

[2:10:14] out that Erica Vega lus attorney is also

[2:10:16] here to um assist in answer any

[2:10:18] questions should they come up with that

[2:10:20] I will conclude and answer

[2:10:22] uh any questions thank you do we have

[2:10:23] any questions

[2:10:24] bwin

[2:10:30] Greg all right Robin I have none any

[2:10:33] public

[2:10:36] comments I have no public comment mayor

[2:10:39] closing public comments bringing you

[2:10:40] back

[2:10:41] for motion comments

[2:10:47] discussion seeing done I make a motion

[2:10:49] to approve

[2:10:58] please vote

[2:11:23] GRE your supposed to CH is

[2:11:33] it I'm pushing

[2:11:42] it I but maybe it's telling me

[2:11:46] different motion passes thank you

[2:11:52] so moving on to seven I think I covered

[2:11:54] them all right jumping back I got them

[2:11:55] all yep all right moving on to seven

[2:11:58] public hearings presentation for public

[2:12:00] hearing items staff report presentation

[2:12:02] Council questions of Staff uh open

[2:12:05] public hearing um public hearing is to

[2:12:08] open uh then we will close the public

[2:12:10] hearing I will state that it's going to

[2:12:12] close Council discussion and action so

[2:12:40] call upon director

[2:12:41] freed hi good evening mayor and council

[2:12:44] members uh we're here tonight to um

[2:12:48] recommend amendments to our purchasing

[2:12:49] ordinances in order to meet our

[2:12:51] regulatory

[2:12:53] requirements uh related to our recycling

[2:12:56] purchasing and federal requirements

[2:12:58] through um the office of uh management

[2:13:01] and budget uh the state requirements

[2:13:04] basically uh requires us to uh procure

[2:13:08] recycled product and is setting

[2:13:10] standards and uh specifications on on um

[2:13:15] our paper products and as well as some

[2:13:16] organic uh products and the Office of

[2:13:19] Management and budget uh is announcing

[2:13:22] um changes to the uniform grants

[2:13:25] guidance and with that um we also uh

[2:13:29] will be uh notifying staff of those

[2:13:33] requirements uh once this uh passes um

[2:13:37] our our uh policy or sorry excuse me our

[2:13:43] um our city ordinance currently doesn't

[2:13:46] require changes for the federal

[2:13:47] requirements because we uh have a line

[2:13:50] just saying that we're going to comply

[2:13:52] with those requirements but the Recycled

[2:13:55] product we don't have that specific

[2:13:56] language in there so we are recommended

[2:13:58] to add that section for the Recycled

[2:14:01] purchasing and with that if you have any

[2:14:05] questions Council I have any questions

[2:14:07] for

[2:14:09] LTE

[2:14:11] Robin LTE what state agency enforces

[2:14:15] this policy uh this is coming from

[2:14:18] California um State be and it's uh we

[2:14:21] we're participating with the Cal recycle

[2:14:23] Grant and that's part of the requirement

[2:14:25] through that Grant um requesting the

[2:14:28] requirements with that and our public

[2:14:31] works department is the one

[2:14:32] administering that Grant and then how or

[2:14:36] when are audits for compliance

[2:14:39] done uh since Public Works would be

[2:14:42] required to um report on some of the

[2:14:45] numbers on this so that I don't have the

[2:14:47] specifics but we could uh look into that

[2:14:50] to to see when those requirements will

[2:14:52] be so essentially since we've applied

[2:14:54] for the grant we have to meet the

[2:14:55] requirements and then we

[2:14:57] self-report I I I don't know the the

[2:15:01] details of the grant itself but I could

[2:15:03] look into that okay thank you

[2:15:08] Catherine

[2:15:13] Greg you're not going to be forced to

[2:15:15] use single ply are you um it says 45% uh

[2:15:20] recycled climb for toilet paper

[2:15:26] okay I had to

[2:15:30] S

[2:15:34] bwin right

[2:15:37] um public hearing is now

[2:15:40] open I have no public comments

[2:15:43] mayor public hearing is now

[2:15:46] closed was that good Sophia I do it

[2:15:49] right thank you

[2:15:52] all right bringing back to council for

[2:15:54] discussion

[2:15:59] action second

[2:16:01] retitle yep please ordinance number 1123

[2:16:04] an ordinance of the city council of the

[2:16:06] city of Norco amending chapter 3.24

[2:16:09] purchasing system of the norcan

[2:16:11] municipal code code Amendment 202

[2:16:16] 24-9 please vote

[2:16:30] motion passes unanimous thank

[2:16:32] you all right moving on to city council

[2:16:35] and staff Communications anything from

[2:16:37] City

[2:16:41] staff uh City attorney no thank you Mr

[2:16:44] Mayor not a thing city

[2:16:46] manager

[2:16:48] Berwin Greg yes

[2:16:53] the public comments that were made today

[2:16:55] by the the two residents regarding their

[2:16:58] electrical

[2:17:00] services and

[2:17:02] their dilemma that they're in with with

[2:17:05] the construction

[2:17:09] um I know Alma

[2:17:12] that you're you're aware of that

[2:17:14] situation obviously but I like to see

[2:17:17] Council be given a a a a report

[2:17:22] of of what what the situation

[2:17:28] is and maybe a

[2:17:38] timeline thank you it's a good one I

[2:17:41] like that

[2:17:43] Katherine just want to thank City staff

[2:17:45] for all of their work and the volunteers

[2:17:47] at day of the cowboy and also at

[2:17:48] National Night Out so thank you

[2:17:52] Robin would just like to wish the Little

[2:17:55] League team from East Bale best of luck

[2:17:58] tomorrow in their game so here's my

[2:18:01] little plug and a little props to

[2:18:03] Eastvale for their little league team so

[2:18:06] best wishes to them tomorrow in their

[2:18:07] game so awesome um I just have two

[2:18:11] things one um I'd like to agendize a

[2:18:14] discussion about the national register

[2:18:16] it's very possible um I don't know

[2:18:18] what's going to happen but the lmcf has

[2:18:20] offered to

[2:18:21] join us in that effort and if we could I

[2:18:23] have to bring it before

[2:18:24] Council um if we could uh agendize that

[2:18:28] at a future

[2:18:32] meeting thank

[2:18:38] you please vote

[2:18:55] yeah there it comes motion passes

[2:18:58] unanimous and then finally I know this

[2:18:59] is a a much much bigger lift but I would

[2:19:02] like to

[2:19:04] um I would like to agendize a discussion

[2:19:09] regarding we are in a very unique

[2:19:11] position as a city of norin that we have

[2:19:13] our own Waterworks and one of the things

[2:19:14] that is coming is a need for recycled

[2:19:18] water and I know it's very expensive and

[2:19:20] know we can't do it overnight but what I

[2:19:22] would like to do is at least begin the

[2:19:24] groundwork and have discussions on how

[2:19:27] to begin to expand recycled water not

[2:19:30] only to our Parks but into our cities I

[2:19:32] know it's a huge lift but I think that

[2:19:35] given the fact that the state refuses to

[2:19:40] create storage I think that we need to

[2:19:42] begin to include that the other thing

[2:19:45] I'd also like to include I really liked

[2:19:47] uh Greg's idea in terms of the putting

[2:19:49] out the fires where the number one fire

[2:19:51] zone in the entire United States so I'd

[2:19:54] like to discuss what's that water

[2:19:56] storage system cost

[2:19:59] calledd helah hydrant or hel pod I'd

[2:20:02] like to discuss putting a couple of

[2:20:04] those in if it's possible I have no idea

[2:20:06] but then the other thing is I'd like to

[2:20:08] have a discussion on recycled water and

[2:20:10] utilizing it because we're about ready

[2:20:12] to get a whole bunch of recycled water

[2:20:14] from the in fact we're already getting

[2:20:15] it but I think that uh I'm not talking

[2:20:18] this isn't tomorrow this isn't next week

[2:20:20] but if we have a plan for the next 25

[2:20:22] years as we're putting in

[2:20:24] infrastructure uh we're doing a lot of

[2:20:26] Street work there's no re well maybe

[2:20:28] there is a reason but at least we look

[2:20:30] at as we break open streets we begin to

[2:20:33] put in Rec recycled water lines when we

[2:20:35] can so I'd like to agendize that to at

[2:20:38] least have a

[2:20:39] discussion can we have a workshop on

[2:20:41] that would you is

[2:20:43] that whatever I mean I'm I'm open to

[2:20:46] that so to have a workshop on that to

[2:20:48] talk about water and the other thing too

[2:20:52] is AG meters I mean all these things are

[2:20:53] trying to do with a farm to Fork farming

[2:20:56] I think I think a workshop would be

[2:21:01] great mayor I think we need Clarity on

[2:21:04] the motion again we need a Clarity on

[2:21:06] the motion okay um so I make a motion

[2:21:10] that we have a workshop on recycled

[2:21:13] water and beginning to do the

[2:21:15] infrastructure for that throughout the

[2:21:16] city of Norco and at the same time I'd

[2:21:19] like to talk about the um the water

[2:21:21] storage system in the case of fires um

[2:21:25] like it or not I I have no trust in

[2:21:27] Edison in terms of what they want to run

[2:21:29] down our throats and in fact one of the

[2:21:31] things that makes me frustrated about

[2:21:33] the league of cities just so we're clear

[2:21:35] is that that's one of the areas we don't

[2:21:36] stick together so we're going to have to

[2:21:38] protect ourselves in the event of a fire

[2:21:40] I think I think Greg's Greg's idea is an

[2:21:43] excellent one so we talk about that and

[2:21:45] we talk about recycled water okay and

[2:21:48] with the use for a because I've had

[2:21:49] questions about that as well yep so

[2:21:51] those would be the three topic using the

[2:21:53] Recycled water for agricultural uses

[2:21:55] within the city and how we could make

[2:21:57] that work before the infrastructure is

[2:21:59] put in place so a water Workshop that

[2:22:01] covering those topics yes okay

[2:22:11] great please vote

[2:22:22] a motion carries thank you thank you and

[2:22:25] with that we are adjourned

City Council - Aug 07 2024

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