[0:03] All right. Good evening everyone. We'll call the Ovette City Council meeting on

[0:08] August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can we please have roll call?

[0:13] » Mayor Lewis >> here.

[0:14] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman >> here.

[0:16] » Council member Clark >> here.

[0:18] » Council member Solomonov >> here.

[0:20] » Council member Durgel >> here.

[0:22] » All righty. Uh, are there any communications to share at this time?

[0:26] » I have no written communications. All right, we'll move on to item number

[0:30] three, city manager report, please. >> Good evening.

[0:35] Let me

[0:40] share my screen.

[0:48] » We were late, so sorry. >> All right. Um, good evening everyone.

[0:57] Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming events. We are winding up summer and,

[1:03] uh, fall is always super busy for us. So, we encourage everybody to come out

[1:08] to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st, which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00

[1:15] a.m. in the morning to meet with one of our, uh, police officers. So, coffee

[1:20] with a cop uh, will be during that time. There will be coffee and some limited

[1:25] free pastries. So, if you have not had a chance to uh try a pastry at Paris

[1:31] Baguette, this would be a great opportunity to do that, as well as uh

[1:35] come talk to one of Olivet's finests.

[1:40] Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So, this is an opportunity for you and your

[1:46] neighbors to gather to have a block party and then if you sign up uh some

[1:52] oliveette city officials, including the uh police officers, the fire department,

[1:58] you might get the fire truck or the ambulance uh to come and to stop by and

[2:02] to say hello um meet and greet with uh our oliveette community. So, um we would

[2:08] encourage all of the neighbors to go ahead and sign up. If you have

[2:12] questions, uh, please reach out to Lieutenant Selzer in the police

[2:16] department.

[2:20] And every year we do the Battle of the Badges, which is a competition between

[2:26] the fire department and the police department. Uh, it is essentially a

[2:30] blood drive for the American Red Cross. And both our fire department and our

[2:36] police department have compelling stories, personal stories about

[2:41] grandchildren uh and their need for blood, hence the blood drive. And so

[2:46] individuals who come and donate blood are given an opportunity to cast a vote

[2:52] for either the police department or the fire department. Um and at the you know

[2:57] at the end of the drive the winning department receives some gift from the

[3:04] losing department. Um the fire department has more years that they have

[3:09] won uh than the police department. So come out donate for a good cause to the

[3:14] American cross and then choose which public safety group is your favorite.

[3:22] Trivia night is being hosted at Five Oaks on September 18th. There are nine

[3:28] tables left, so bring your friends uh for a table of eight. The theme this

[3:33] year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there should be something for everyone. Um

[3:40] register for your table and we hope to see you there. I think there's at least

[3:44] one staff table. Um and I think a couple other folks have gotten um tables for

[3:50] the trivia night.

[3:53] The great Olivet cleanout is happening again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.

[3:58] This is a change from um Stacy Park. So in years past it's been at Stacy Park.

[4:03] This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson. It's on the lower parking lot. So this

[4:08] is an opportunity for residents to either have documents shredded if you

[4:14] have some of those in your office or your home office. This is not for um a

[4:19] business cleanout, but if you do have a home office and you have documents that

[4:23] you would like shredded or if you have any um e-waste, so almost anything with

[4:28] a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle those for you.

[4:32] » Do you know if it's still a drive-thru? >> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a

[4:35] drive-thru. And so there is a very specific route for you to uh to come

[4:40] through. They will take the items um out of your vehicle. It's very easy. you

[4:45] should be um in and out in not much time at all. So, and we did receive the

[4:49] grant. So, we've signed off on that and we did receive the grant for this.

[4:56] » The fall and winter activity guide is out. These are all of the recreational

[5:01] programs that the city is offering through the fall and the winter. We have

[5:05] some hard copies out in the lobby if you would like. Uh it's also on the city's

[5:09] website and should be hitting should actually be in homes already. So, we

[5:14] would encourage you to check those out. We have activities for all ages.

[5:19] And then I just always encourage everyone to sign up for weekly, which is

[5:23] our weekly e newswsletter. And then just some general city updates.

[5:31] Um, our new finance director, Julia Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably

[5:38] uh in September, we will bringing be bringing her to council to to introduce

[5:41] her. Uh we are recruiting for another police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told

[5:48] you that we had made conditional officer offers to two individuals. Uh one of

[5:54] them accepted. They are in the pre-employment screening phase. Um the

[5:58] other candidate decided that uh he was going to remain at his uh his place of

[6:02] employment. Um and then the follow-up from the Hicks Carter Hicks the

[6:07] employment engagement committee is meeting this week. They're going to

[6:10] start working on um employee recognition and then um I have asked Hicks Carter

[6:17] Hicks to craft a proposal to help the city with an internal communications

[6:22] plan. uh one of the uh comments and areas of deficiency on the survey was

[6:29] communication and that's a pretty broad um topic and so I do think working with

[6:34] them to create and improve some of our internal communications is a good start

[6:39] to making headway on that uh survey result. Are they going to talk to

[6:44] employees to understand kind of like what I I know they have the survey

[6:48] results, but to understand like where they saw gaps in communication. Will

[6:51] they have those conversations before they craft?

[6:53] » They're going to craft me a proposal to do it. So like we'll get a scope of

[6:56] work. >> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk

[6:58] to people. Gotcha. >> Correct. Not build a plan and then say

[7:01] Okay. Correct. Gotcha.

[7:05] » Uh and then here are your upcoming meeting dates. And so with that, I can

[7:09] answer any council questions. questions?

[7:14] No. All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. We are going to move on to

[7:20] staff reports, please, then. >> All right. Uh, starting with fire

[7:23] department. So, we often talk about the fire department and their um

[7:27] firefighting training and their um calls for fire. But I thought this month we

[7:33] might just kind of highlight the fact that they do run an ambulance and that

[7:39] takes a a good amount of their time. They actually run quite a few medical

[7:43] calls. So just uh looking at this chart, this is on

[7:48] average about five calls a day that they're running. Um, as you can see,

[7:53] they spend a lot of time in the city of Alvette, but we are also contracted for

[7:58] um, fire service, fire and EMS service for the pocket of uninccorporated that's

[8:04] just north of us on Dealman. So, we respond there. St. Louis County

[8:09] contracts with us, pays us to provide that service to them. And then we do get

[8:13] called out of town um often to um Creve Corps or U City um or certain things on

[8:21] the highway we might get called out for for both police and or for EMS and fire

[8:28] parks and wreck. Uh we just finished earlier this month uh municipals. So,

[8:34] municipals is this uh part of this photo right here is h offered every other year

[8:41] and it is a camp that highlights the city departments. So, the police

[8:47] department had a day and brought out the mounted patrol from St. Charles County,

[8:54] brought out some therapy dogs, brought out some um other fun police things. The

[9:02] fire department had a day had an half a day and they got to go down the slide

[9:06] and the fire department because we have a slide and not a pole and they got to

[9:11] do some other fun uh firefighter things. This particular picture we had an

[9:16] opportunity to partner with Emerson who is a business here in the city of

[9:20] Alvette and they came and did uh science things with uh with the kids. So they

[9:26] did the egg drop project um learning about gravity and um force distribution

[9:32] and things like that. And so the kids had a good time. And then the other

[9:35] thing with uh the parks department, this happens to be the segment uh one of the

[9:40] new segments of the Centennial Greenway. So now that that greenway has been in

[9:45] for more than one year, maintenance falls to the city. And so this is our um

[9:50] horiculturalist and our park staff who are clearing um

[9:55] clearing the fence lines uh along along that particular section of the trail

[10:03] planning department. So these are fiscal year to date. So from June of 25 through

[10:09] July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through June of this year. So, as you can see,

[10:15] um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots of people got their roof replaced um in

[10:22] this particular fiscal year, most likely from uh the storm that came through in

[10:27] um in this in May of last year. Um and we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,

[10:34] this could be like reinvestment by businesses or new businesses coming in

[10:39] or updates to businesses. Uh so this is a good sign and what has um been keeping

[10:45] one aspect of what has been keeping um Carlos and his staff very busy over the

[10:51] course of the year.

[10:54] The police department uh officer Bagsby, this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to

[11:00] Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking about gun safety in particular uh

[11:06] gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department donated 50 gunlocks for this particular

[11:11] event. So, this is just a reminder that our police department has gunlocks

[11:17] available to anyone in the community who is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and

[11:22] they are available Monday through Friday, normal business hours. Just go

[11:26] see the records clerk um here at city center uh if that's something that you

[11:30] are interested.

[11:34] And then public works. Um, if you have driven at Price, North Price and Olive,

[11:41] you have seen a lot of work there. Uh, this happens to be the contractor. They

[11:46] did some paving overnight. They did a really um a really nice job on that

[11:52] work. The work here at the 9201 Olive site where um the CBDraton building was,

[12:02] there has been a delay. It is not a delay related to the city.

[12:07] It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't where wasn't as deep as we thought it

[12:12] was. That required some changes to storm

[12:16] water drains that MDOT took a long time trying to figure out what they wanted.

[12:20] Um but work is moving forward. In fact, Spire was on site today moving the gas

[12:25] line that needed to be moved in order to accommodate um the storm drain. So,

[12:29] we're a little bit behind on where we thought we would be to close out this

[12:33] project. Um, but it is related to situations beyond our control. And then

[12:39] we do have some good news. So, as you might recall, we um put in for a grant

[12:45] for um reconstruction of North Price between

[12:50] Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant. And while we have not received the grant

[12:56] yet, we are on the recommended list. So, um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this

[13:04] week to review that recommended list and hopefully approve that list and

[13:08] hopefully we will be approved so that we can um move forward

[13:15] with reconstruction of that section of North Price. It is a multi-year project.

[13:20] So there will be design time and right-of-way acquisition time and then

[13:24] construction time. So it's looking probably a 3 to four year long u process

[13:31] and that is all I have unless you have any additional questions for me.

[13:36] » Questions? Pencil? No, it's very thorough. Thank you very much.

[13:40] » Thank you. >> All right, we will move on to monthly

[13:44] financial reports, please.

[14:04] All right, I am filling in for our interim finance director who um she had

[14:10] a previously scheduled event this evening. So um you are seeing the report

[14:17] for the second month of the year. Um

[14:22] as you can see we are we are on track. Um general revenue started the year

[14:28] above expectations by about $37,000. General fund expenditures are also above

[14:35] expectations. Um this is normal. We have a variety of um like all of our

[14:41] insuranceances are due. So workers comp, liability, property, all of that is due

[14:47] um at the very beginning of the year. So um that's not unexpected.

[14:53] Um it does result in an unfavorable variance. But again, we are um this is

[14:58] the July financial report. So at this point, we were one month into uh into

[15:03] the into the into the year. Um it is not unusual for property taxes

[15:09] to be slow. Again, we get those in um December and January.

[15:15] And um parks and wreck revenues started the year mixed um and they do um they

[15:22] exceeded budget projections due to high soccer enrollments. So soccer is very

[15:26] very popular. And then the chart of our month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales

[15:33] tax, which we took out a bunch of the noise. If you might remember past

[15:37] graphs, there were a lot of lines there. So this is just the last two years. So

[15:43] fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we are um for 27. So we are of course

[15:50] higher than 25 and a little bit below um of 26.

[15:55] So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those for you.

[15:58] » We anticipate a drop off or I don't remember what the drop off. Yeah,

[16:02] » we don't anticipate the drop off, but I will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.

[16:09] So, anything that we uh receive in September is actually from people buying

[16:15] things in July because it's always a two-month lag.

[16:18] » Um, so we could it could also be um July is a

[16:27] is half the year and a quarter of the year. And so there are certain entities

[16:32] that only report sales tax half of the year, half of the way through the year

[16:36] and a quarter of the way through the year. So that um drop off could have

[16:40] been somebody missed the cut off. Um so there are a variety of of factors that

[16:47] could um account for that. >> But it bounced back up bounced back up.

[16:52] » Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. particularly if it's um they

[16:56] just miss the cut off because then you get to you know you get it the next

[17:00] month. So

[17:04] » that's all I have unless you have anything else.

[17:05] » No. Any questions? >> No.

[17:07] » Okay. >> All right. Thank you. All right. We're

[17:10] going to move on to city council liaison reports for each council member to give

[17:14] an update of kind of activities they've been up to. Uh council member Clark,

[17:18] » I have no reports at this time. Council member Jurgal.

[17:22] » Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of the meeting was the installation of two

[17:27] new commissioners. So uh was kind of orient or orienting them to the process.

[17:34] And it was great going through it again because u uh they went over all of you

[17:38] know of city government and uh I know I was given the training beforehand but

[17:44] when you hear it the second time it sinks in a little bit more. So that's

[17:48] always good. Um, one other thing that's coming up with uh the parks is going to

[17:52] be the review of the Indian Meadows uh pavilions. So, that that's on their

[17:57] agenda and uh should be moving along. >> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.

[18:05] » Uh, no report for me this evening. I do have an EDC meeting next Monday.

[18:10] » It's on. >> It's

[18:14] Oh, the light is hitting my mistake. It's my first day. All right. uh

[18:17] chairman promis I attended the PCDC meeting on August

[18:22] 20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh metal canopy was approved for the brass

[18:30] tap to help extend the seasons for them um and extend some seating outside

[18:36] during the wintertime months. So, that was approved. Um, and that the roof of

[18:41] that structure will stay throughout the year, but then there's a wall kind of

[18:46] enclosure that's temporary for the uh months of November through Feb fe

[18:52] November through February. Um, we also discussed continued

[18:57] discussing a text amendment for coin operated laundromats.

[19:03] Um and a new single family home was approved for 1123 Hilltop

[19:10] and uh also had discussion on a text amendment to allow for other warehousing

[19:15] and storage that would be specifically for car condominiums.

[19:21] So, these are uh spaces that would be um condominiums that would be sold to

[19:29] individuals uh who would likely store their luxury cars, potentially

[19:35] um RVs and boats. Um but they would be individual condominiums. So, kind of a

[19:43] new thing um coming before the commission and and so it's um at the

[19:49] discussion stage at this point. Um and that's all. Thank you.

[19:54] » Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the privilege of speaking uh chamber of

[20:00] commerce uh for the state of the city and it's an opportunity where I get to

[20:03] go and give a state of the city of how we're doing from an economic and

[20:07] residential and development and just how we're overall you know what is all of

[20:11] that and get to brag on all of that which was very exciting and a big thank

[20:15] you to staff Kiana and uh others for helping you know draft things put

[20:20] together a great slideshow and it was you know really wellreceived and get and

[20:23] get to meet some people there so that was really nice and then today I

[20:26] attended the Olivet housing authority uh where they had a few procedural items

[20:30] reviewing the financial audit reports approving other things talking about

[20:33] next steps on everything around some of the policies we're moving forward on the

[20:37] housing. So that that is progressing as well. Um and then um yeah those were

[20:44] things that I got to attend. So uh we'll move on to item seven items from council

[20:49] members. So, a chance for us just if we've been hearing things that you want

[20:53] to bring up for a future topic, we won't go deep into them now. And uh just a

[20:57] open forum. >> Nope.

[21:01] » Nothing for me. >> All right. No,

[21:04] » nothing for me. >> Nothing for me either. The only things

[21:07] I'll mention um since not everyone probably was able to attend previous

[21:10] meetings we've had and since I see a lot of uh speakers here which is going to be

[21:13] great is we did at a previous work session a few weeks ago discuss the

[21:17] Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh council member Joel mentioned that's

[21:21] going to come before parks and wreck where they're going to we asked to go

[21:24] back to their ask for their assessment and then it'll come back to the council

[21:27] at that point um and we'd given the direction to look at what it would take

[21:31] to remove and what their thoughts were and then uh we'll get their feedback on

[21:35] that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously discussed block cameras with the uh

[21:39] chief of police and so that will be on a future agenda so just calling that out

[21:43] as well as the NIT policy will be on a future uh agenda in the future as well

[21:48] uh and then obvious

[21:52] uh I imagine people here to speak as well and so appreciated that we had

[21:56] committed ID committed back that we're going to meet with our legal team to

[21:59] understand what options all of it has because it is a unique situation and

[22:02] then uh happy to meet with the concerned citizens themselves and any council are

[22:06] welcome to join me to want to hear everyone's you know concerns in person

[22:09] and understand everything and then after that we'll take whatever the appropriate

[22:14] actions that we can and don't know what those are right now can't promise

[22:17] anything but you know want to hear from everyone and then we'll we'll see what

[22:20] comes of that so all right uh we're going to move on to hearing from

[22:25] citizens so this is a portion of the agenda where anyone present in person or

[22:28] virtually may address the city council regarding any topic including those

[22:32] later in the agenda each speaker is allowed up three minutes to address the

[22:35] mayor and city council. Hearing from citizens is designed for councils to

[22:39] receive feedback rather than for a direct dialogue. We will take speakers

[22:43] in person first followed by any online. If you are in person, please complete a

[22:47] speaker card and give it to the clerk. If you've already given your card to the

[22:49] clerk, we will take you in the order submitted on your card. If you are

[22:54] online, wish to speak, please use the raise your hand feature and you will be

[22:57] added as a speaker. For all speakers, we ask that you state your name and address

[23:01] for the record prior to leaving the remarks and that you keep the three

[23:05] minutes and just so for the equity for everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and

[23:10] Bob Martin, please.

[23:17] And if you don't mind turning on the mic, please.

[23:21] » Yep. Perfect.

[23:24] » Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin. Nancy Martin

[23:29] » and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week we sent all you guys an email regarding

[23:35] uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute. Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.

[23:42] Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding. >> Yes.

[23:46] » Um, following are excer ex excuse me excerpts from the Missouri state chapter

[23:50] 220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is any act done or committed or suffered to

[23:56] be done, committed by any person or any substance or thing kept, maintained,

[24:01] placed or found in any public or private property that is injurous to the public

[24:05] health, safety or welfare. are to permit premises to become unsightly,

[24:09] unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the vicini to the vicinity or offensive to

[24:16] the senses of users of the public way abudding the premises that depreciates

[24:21] the enjoyment and the use of the property in the immediate vicinity to

[24:26] such an extent that it is harmful to the community in which the property is

[24:30] situated or such a condition exists. AZZ Galvanizing fits every one of these

[24:35] definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned light industrial, but it's expanded

[24:39] several times over the years. It's not light industrial anymore. We are asking

[24:44] Alvette to protect its citizens from this nuisance and use statute title 7

[24:50] cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7 I'm sorry 71.780

[24:56] nuisances expensive suppression how paid the noise and toxic emissions are

[25:03] unbearable and hazardous to our neighbors health and quality of life and

[25:09] ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom that faces away from ACZ because we

[25:14] can't sleep in our master bedroom anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy

[25:18] our beautiful yard. We've lived in Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,

[25:23] » please help us. >> Please help us.

[25:26] Um, they're getting worse and worse. And we're up on Brford High where the

[25:33] noise really hits us, but our neighbors in Indian Meadows are just getting

[25:37] creamed. They're getting gassed. It's terrible. But thank you very much for

[25:41] coming. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you.

[25:43] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[25:46] » All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny Littleton.

[26:00] Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask

[26:06] my city council if they would please support and help all of the residents

[26:10] deal with this do's a galvanizing. It's to the point where my son who's

[26:16] seven, he's beginning to have temper tantrums because he has a trampoline, a

[26:22] basketball hoop, a soccer net that now he can't play because when he begins to

[26:28] play, I have to make him come in. And so now he's getting upset, stumping yelling

[26:35] in the house. What's the purpose of me having this if I can't play? When are

[26:39] they going to move that company? He's seven years old. This is the point where

[26:45] he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now he's having them because he's not

[26:49] getting to play outside. And this was for the summer. So, I had to make fun

[26:55] activities in my basement. So, I mean, now the children, it's to the point

[27:00] where I'm asking the kids and my subdivision, you you guys got to go home

[27:04] now. You can't play here. Can we come back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you

[27:07] can come back. So, now the kids, it's just getting to be too much. And then

[27:12] also, I'm I know you brought up about you're going to bring it up with the

[27:15] parks and you guys are going to redisuss about the pavilion. Please move that

[27:20] pavilion. There's so much going on that my son is seven. He said, "There's

[27:24] always something going on over here at this pavilion. Problems every day. He's

[27:31] seven. There was a time he didn't know anything about that. Now he's seven."

[27:35] And he's saying these things. And one of the neighbors, she couldn't be here

[27:38] today. She did ask me, "Until you guys decide about how you're going to move

[27:43] it, would you please at least move the tables underneath the pavilion while you

[27:47] guys are trying to figure out how you're going to move that pavilion?" So until

[27:52] you have a due date when you're going to move it, could you please at least move

[27:55] the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery that happens in the morning, afternoon,

[28:00] and night, they won't have anywhere to sit and lay and do all of that extra

[28:05] activity that's unwanted and that we don't need. So I just wanted to ask you

[28:10] guys, would you please bless our community to help all the residents

[28:13] dealing with a galvanizing and the nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?

[28:18] Thank you so much. Thank you very much for coming.

[28:23] All right. Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.

[28:34] » Good evening. >> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on

[28:38] first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's

[28:44] just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four o'clock. It wakes you up and then you

[28:49] can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I

[28:54] guess, when they figure people or whatever's going on. But it's just been

[28:57] ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we haven't really said a lot because, you

[29:02] know, that there were attorneys working on it. So, you know, we want to continue

[29:05] that. But we need the help of the city. So, I hope that that uh state statute

[29:09] will help. I got a couple other things real quick. Um, one is our park and I

[29:16] know when they redid the the uh the trail, but they didn't do anything to

[29:21] the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,

[29:25] the black that's in the actual park in Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly

[29:30] in some areas. So, the other concern is we have two spaces in uh the new park

[29:37] area that when it we get heavy rain, it's full of water. So the kids go out

[29:41] there and play. Then they muddy muddy up everything which is by the water park.

[29:46] And then the other area is by the playground area around one of the trees

[29:50] is set real low so if we can get that build back up so that the water won't

[29:54] set there. Um the other one is the trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I

[29:59] know they've cut some down but when we get any kind of a rain or wind, I should

[30:03] say wind, there's branches all over the park. And I realize it's more than one

[30:08] park. So sometimes it take them a while. But then the kids are playing and you

[30:11] got these big branches that are laying all over the park trail. Uh, one more

[30:15] thing. How chickens. We got the chicken coupoops gone from

[30:21] the side of the house, but there is a pin. So, I've asked over and over about

[30:25] an ordinance to be written so that I don't care about the chickens, but they

[30:28] need to be fenced in in the back of the house and not in the very front.

[30:34] This these chicken coops were on the front on the side of the home. and I've

[30:37] complained for a couple of years. And so it's my understanding that all of that

[30:42] has been washed aside. I don't know if anybody knows if that is true, but I'm

[30:46] going to I'm going to research it that that's over. The governor was is the one

[30:50] that uh approved that, but it's my understanding that they've been fighting

[30:55] it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we get an ordinance where they are are

[31:00] fenced in in the back? And then I think that's it. Um Oh. We have another area

[31:08] in our subdivision and I've complained about it several times. We need some

[31:11] help uh with uh enforcement of uh property upkeep. So, we got a lot of

[31:18] issues with that, but I understand we only have one part-time person

[31:23] and for this city, we could probably use one or two to just do property upkeep

[31:29] for the for uh all of the the entire uh et

[31:38] Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner of Grand View and La Hoya. There are

[31:44] huge papa trees that have grown out into the street. I've asked you can't even

[31:49] see the street sign. The the trees were trimmed back right at the sign, but of

[31:53] course they grow back. I'm asking that something be done about those trees

[31:57] because it's really a hindrance. If you are coming up to the stop sign and

[32:01] somebody's coming from the other direction, these trees are huge and they

[32:04] are actually in the street. You familiar with that? you know, been

[32:09] over there in >> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.

[32:13] So, we have several areas where the trees are actually growing into the

[32:17] street, ground up, not just hanging over. So, they actually block traffic.

[32:23] » That's it. >> Thank you very much.

[32:24] » Appreciate it. >> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.

[32:37] Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill Lane. So, I'm here to support the

[32:43] residents um near Indian Meadows and their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet

[32:49] resident, but also I'm representing the Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who

[32:54] have who the they have also gotten involved in these issues. There are

[32:59] really three issues. Light trespass, potential air pollution, and noise. The

[33:06] light trespass that is occurring should be easy to take care of because St.

[33:10] Louis County already has an ordinance against it. So, it'd be really good if

[33:16] someone from Alvette notified the county that light trespass from AZ shining into

[33:24] residents houses, shining off the property into residents houses and ask

[33:30] az to shield their lights. No, air pollution and noise are more

[33:35] difficult. However, Olivet can do something about it. The residents have

[33:40] been complaining about AZ for at least two years. But they didn't give up. They

[33:45] found a regulation that cities can enforce ordinances up to a half mile

[33:51] outside their boundaries. Alvette needs to step up and support its citizens. The

[33:57] county does not have the necessary equipment to determine if ACC is

[34:02] emitting pollutants and to

[34:06] and and to identify the pollutants. However, the outside groups that that

[34:13] they're working with um they're trying to um install air monitors and analyze

[34:20] air samples and noise monitors. So, I encourage you to work with them to get

[34:26] data to back up their claims. Um, noise is a harder problem, but put

[34:33] yourself in these resident shoes. How would you like to hear a loud bang

[34:38] several times in the middle of the night?

[34:41] I'm asking you to find a way to stop the loud noise at night and determine if az

[34:46] is polluting the air and if they are to try to stop them. These problems should

[34:51] not be ignored and all of it can and should do something about them.

[34:55] » Thank you very much. Appreciate your time.

[34:59] » Right. Is there anyone else in the audience who wanted to speak?

[35:11] » Good evening. >> Evening.

[35:12] » My name is Denise Williams. I live at 9600 Hiron Drive.

[35:19] I just have to say I live ac across the street from the park

[35:24] where all this noise

[35:29] have been going on for quite a while.

[35:34] And hearing this noise all day

[35:40] and throughout your time of rest

[35:46] is depreciating your livelihood.

[35:51] I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest. I've retired to come home and enjoy the

[35:57] kids, enjoy my bed where I've been missing it for all this time. And then

[36:02] you come home and you're hearing all of this unnecessary

[36:08] noise that's not supposed to be a part of your life in Eloette.

[36:15] I used to call Alvette when I moved here sleepy hollow.

[36:20] Very quiet, very surreal.

[36:26] That has been stolen. And

[36:31] days and days and days have passed by and all of you all are sleeping

[36:38] comfortably while we're up in the I walk the trail three times a day. You hear

[36:44] it? It's supposed to be surreal on the um path. It's supposed to be something

[36:50] great that you all have done for the community.

[36:58] I don't think so. Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that

[37:03] stuff big just so much smoke it covers the whole

[37:10] park. The stench comes in your windows.

[37:15] You smell it at night. Not including the noise, but the smoke,

[37:21] the stench.

[37:25] So imagine, close your eyes and imagine

[37:29] that's how your days are going. Every day you got to deal with this every day.

[37:37] Your kids are inhaling this poison.

[37:43] We're at 70. They're cutting years off our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's

[37:48] chemicals that we're absorbing into our bodies. the kids are absorbing over at

[37:55] the park that is so nice to have in the neighborhood, but it's being blown

[38:00] straight to hell. Their lives are being cut short.

[38:06] And you guys are

[38:11] when y'all sleep at night, just think your glory oliveette

[38:17] is causing suffering for a lot of of your community and we're

[38:25] just asking you to really take this to heart and understand what we're dealing

[38:30] with. Thank you.

[38:32] » Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it.

[38:37] All right. Anyone else in the audience wish to speak?

[38:42] Is there anyone online? Please raise your hand.

[38:50] All right. Thank you for everyone for your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.

[38:55] All right. We are going to move on now to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please

[39:00] have the title be read? Bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit

[39:04] usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 9600

[39:10] and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

[39:15] outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with

[39:19] their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard. Second reading.

[39:24] » Thank you.

[39:29] Good evening, mayor, members of the council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm

[39:32] the director of planning and community development, and I'm requesting a second

[39:36] reading call for action for uh this bill. We had our public hearing on

[39:40] August 11th. Be glad to answer any questions, and we do have a

[39:43] representative in attendance if necessary.

[39:46] » The only question I had is I think there was a an ask to look at and I think

[39:50] council man had asked about it like in terms of the location, could it be

[39:53] wedged into the corner in the back or anything like that? Was that feasible?

[39:57] Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm remembering correctly,

[40:01] » that was related if like parking was an issue.

[40:04] » Yeah. >> If that and and that may be something

[40:06] that needs to be looked at if it becomes an issue or not.

[40:10] » That's fine. >> Um, and but I I think that's what we

[40:14] were talking about. >> That is correct. Okay.

[40:15] » That's my understanding. >> Yeah. And I guess my question is a

[40:18] procedural question related um just with us being a fairly new council. Should

[40:23] there be an issue that becomes apparent with parking um or traffic movement with

[40:31] the location safety um what what is the process for if if we approve the special

[40:38] permit as it is tonight but realize that it is not functioning in in the way that

[40:44] we intended it to. >> We'll engage with the uh first engage

[40:48] with the applicant or the petitioner that operates a special use permit. see

[40:52] what we can try to mitigate what is out there, get a better understanding, uh

[40:56] then ultimately report back to the council. The council does have the right

[40:59] to revoke a permit uh if it finds that there is some val validation to the

[41:04] concerns that are expressed

[41:08] » question. How do we define parking issues? Like what do we consider that to

[41:12] be? >> That's a very good question. I mean that

[41:14] that site I would assume uh that there will be some type of reported incident

[41:18] on Olive or so. But if somebody just can't find a parking space on a specific

[41:23] date uh you know they can bring that information we can try to log it and

[41:26] record it. But you know it would have to be something that that's known uh in

[41:32] there and then the the process that we had today of the people speaking before

[41:35] the council noting concerns or issues gets it on the record. I imagine that

[41:39] makes >> well and I imagine if the city got

[41:41] notified we that could be brought forward to us but I think about

[41:44] hypothetically a certain parking lot you know south of us at the end of 170 I

[41:48] hear people complain about you know all the time it's like you if we hear about

[41:51] citizens something we can bring up too hopefully it's not an issue and

[41:55] » ultimately that it is I mean we will report back to the council the council

[41:59] has you know if there's a consensus that it is an issue I would assume the

[42:03] council holds the authority to revoke the permit or push

[42:07] » modify solution.

[42:10] » And we talked about Dobs only using the first row of parking, right?

[42:16] » That is a private agreement, I believe, that they have with the property owner

[42:19] that they're supposed to be using only that.

[42:21] » Okay. That's not a city enforcable. >> It wasn't anything that we we put in

[42:24] into our our contingencies or so because that's more again that's open parking

[42:30] for this. >> Okay.

[42:32] » Is the parking lot itself owned by one parcel or another? It's the best the

[42:38] best of my understanding it's all owned by uh or the O3BP Associates which

[42:44] operates as Biano Properties. They have the the ownership of all the grounds and

[42:48] then dos leases from them in there. I know there are like three different

[42:53] parcels identified by county but it's one large site.

[42:57] » Okay. >> All right.

[43:00] » And then this is uh fairly random and I do apologize. I did not send this

[43:06] question to you ahead of time. Has there been any consideration with the little

[43:10] driveway, not driveway, but uh right ofway area in the front of that

[43:16] building where you have a curb cut on one side, a curve cut on the other side.

[43:20] Has there been any consideration to closing that driveway? This obviously is

[43:27] bigger than this particular special use permit, but through

[43:32] » it's it's one of those it's a long-term discussion. We put together the council

[43:36] had authorized the uh us to do the olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master

[43:43] plan and it identified uh you know areas and that that's one of the sides.

[43:47] Unfortunately with the curvature of the road is one problem. The intersections

[43:52] of the opposite streets on the north side is another problem. and then none

[43:56] of the aprons align. Um, easy solution is to place a median. That resolve all

[44:01] the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over

[44:06] time working with those property owners, we made them familiar with with the

[44:10] concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and we've had discussions about, you know,

[44:15] kind of nudging them to think think ahead of reassessing the whole parking

[44:20] layout on the the shopping center. It's a it's tough. It's something I got, you

[44:24] know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a determination of how that layout was was

[44:29] put in place and whether they looked at the the external factors and what was

[44:33] across the street. I can't tell you that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess

[44:40] we've made them aware. They know that there are issues. They're looking at

[44:43] some formal way that maybe uh over time that we can kind of like

[44:48] reshift or consolidate that but it get becomes expensive and that becomes the

[44:53] key question. Is it all on their dime or is it something that we collaborate with

[44:57] them and partner with uh in that process? If you go back to the catalyst

[45:01] tragedy uh another uh you know uh report that the council funded uh and there why

[45:06] it didn't go the full extent uh to old bonum road you know it talked about

[45:11] creating some type of uh traffic uh uh uh improvement district or or

[45:17] transportation improvement district to look at means of getting that you know

[45:22] re well it needs to be reassessed in terms of where are the best points of

[45:27] entry uh in there and and internal circulations are going to be also need

[45:32] to be looked at and of course the streetscape enhancements. So I hope that

[45:36] kind of addresses it. I mean it is as long as I my response to you

[45:40] » probably another night for >> but I think it can be done within within

[45:46] you know you know the the plan's horizon.

[45:50] » All right, any other questions? >> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a

[45:55] motion to approve bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit

[46:00] use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at

[46:07] 9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

[46:13] outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with

[46:18] their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard.

[46:23] » Second. All right. Motion made by Council Member Jagos, second by Council

[46:27] Member Clark. Can we please pull to council?

[46:30] » Council member Juel. >> Yes.

[46:31] » Council member Solomonov. >> Yes.

[46:33] » Council member Clark. >> Yes.

[46:34] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.

[46:36] » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.

[46:38] » The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes ordinance 2836.

[46:43] » Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on

[46:47] to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please have the title be read? Bill 3067, an

[46:52] ordinance authorizing a special permit usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the

[46:57] property grounds, addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced

[47:02] driver assistance systems to operate an indoor automotive repair facility within

[47:06] the tenants space addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second

[47:11] reading. >> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our

[47:16] previous meeting on August 11th along with a public hearing. be glad to answer

[47:19] any specific questions. We do have a representative, Mr. Corbin, and I

[47:22] believe one of the operators uh in attendance.

[47:27] » I didn't have any questions. I think we covered it last time as far as I'm

[47:30] concerned. Does anyone have any questions?

[47:34] Not to discredit. I think the work was great last time, so we got our answer.

[47:37] So, it's a very interesting new property to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone

[47:43] doesn't have any questions, um I'll entertain a motion. I'd like to make a

[47:48] motion to approve bill 3067, an ordinance authorizing a special permit

[47:52] use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 10401

[47:57] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced driver assistance systems to operate an

[48:02] indoor automotive repair facility within the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower

[48:08] Boulevard, Sweet B. >> Second.

[48:12] » All right. U motion's been made and a second. Can we please pull the council?

[48:16] Council member Dragal, >> yes.

[48:17] » Council member Solammanov, >> yes.

[48:19] » Council member Clark, >> yes.

[48:20] » Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman, >> yes.

[48:22] » Mayor Lewis, >> yes.

[48:24] » Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes ordinance 2837.

[48:28] » All right, moving on to item 11, please. Bill 3068. Can we please

[48:33] » have the title read? >> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and

[48:37] adopting chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 080 to 115.120

[48:43] conflict of interest for the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code and

[48:47] establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and

[48:50] substantial interests for certain municipal officials. Second reading

[48:55] » so we covered this last time procedural that we need to do this.

[48:59] » That's correct. >> All right. I did not have any questions.

[49:01] Did anyone on the council? >> I had none.

[49:04] » All right. Then I will entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve bill

[49:09] 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and adopting

[49:13] chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 through 115.120,

[49:21] conflict of interest of the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and

[49:25] establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and

[49:29] substantial interests for certain municipal officials.

[49:33] » All right, we hear a second. >> Second.

[49:35] » All right. Can we please pull the council?

[49:38] » Council member Duel. >> Yes.

[49:39] » Council member Solomonov, >> yes.

[49:41] » Council member Clark, >> yes.

[49:42] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.

[49:44] » Mayor Lewis, >> yes.

[49:46] » Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes ordinance 2838.

[49:51] » Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill 3069. Can we please have the title be

[49:56] read? >> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an

[49:59] easement to Spire for the installation of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.

[50:03] Second reading. Good evening, mayor and council members.

[50:07] Um, great news today. This buyer was on site to finally begin relocating that

[50:12] 2-in high-pressure man. Um, any questions about our discussion from a

[50:17] couple weeks ago or thoughts since then about the wonderful world underneath our

[50:21] pavement [laughter] >> when you put it that way.

[50:26] » Okay. >> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,

[50:28] » I do not. I mean, nothing new to add from the

[50:31] » Okay, so very good. >> Yeah. Nothing yet.

[50:34] » Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain a motion,

[50:40] I guess. Do we have a motion on this directly or We do have a motion, right?

[50:44] » Yeah. >> So, do do we need just reward it to

[50:48] approve this? >> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a

[50:51] motion to approve bill number 3069, etc. I would like to make a motion

[50:56] » for bill 3069, an ordinance, an ordinance granting an easement to spire

[51:02] for the installation of an underground gas m.

[51:04] » I second that. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can

[51:07] we please pull the council? >> Council member Duel.

[51:11] » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.

[51:12] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[51:14] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.

[51:16] » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis.

[51:17] » Yes. >> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes

[51:19] ordinance 2839. >> Thank you very much.

[51:22] » Thank you. Good luck. All right, move on to item 13. Bill

[51:27] 3070. If we could please have the title be read.

[51:34] Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for AC Richardson

[51:38] LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial

[51:42] Court, to permit SSM Health Health Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to

[51:47] operate a 4566qt medical clinic within the tenant space

[51:52] addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive. First reading and public hearing.

[51:56] » All right. As part of this public hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open

[51:58] up the public hearing for this bill. And good evening, Max.

[52:02] » Yeah, welcome back. >> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm

[52:04] the director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And

[52:07] tonight I'm here to present bill 3070, which is a special permit use request

[52:12] for uh medical offices and clinics at 9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next

[52:17] slide will kind of show the location. It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial

[52:21] Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which is on the lower left hand corner of of

[52:25] the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The

[52:30] building itself which you see the Lshape and the white roof there is roughly

[52:34] 31,596 ft. It's a multi-tenant office

[52:38] warehouse. You might be familiar with the uh the the artery is located in

[52:43] there along with uh the USGS uh is located in that facility. Uh the

[52:48] proposed uses of medical office and clinics and since this is light

[52:51] industrial uh medical offices and clinics are identified in the permitted

[52:55] uses but only as a special permit and that is why SSM health cardinal linen is

[53:00] here before you. It's zone L light industrial district and it is authorized

[53:05] uh as a uh special permit use in the LI district. Uh the next slide

[53:11] uh kind of talks about the special permit procedure where we try to uh

[53:16] facilitate and then further our vision and goals with the comprehensive plan

[53:19] which we hope is reflective of our ordinances in the CO district but allows

[53:23] us to look at the potential impact the the district itself the comp plan sites

[53:28] uh sustainability the surrounding impacts and then the council rights to

[53:33] buffer uh required from additional improvements and imposed some open space

[53:38] requirements. ments and to uh consider uh some limitations like in hours and

[53:43] and things of that nature. It goes to our planning and community design

[53:46] commission for review and a recommendation and then a council holds

[53:50] the public hearing and then considers actions via an ordinance. On the next

[53:55] slide, just a couple of things regarding special permit uses. There are some

[53:58] general conditions that are outlined with our ordinance. Those are that is it

[54:02] listed in the district? Does it further the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the

[54:06] location the parcel suitable for the environment surroundings? Is it

[54:09] complementaryary to the surroundings in the neighborhood and the improvements?

[54:13] Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to any potential spillover effects? And

[54:17] then of course it gives the city the authority to grant buffering designate

[54:20] areas for uh open space limit set limitations on operations implementation

[54:25] schedules meaning like over time they need to do this and consider adequacy of

[54:30] public services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and bolts. This is a

[54:34] street view of the building facility. They'll be taking that front corner that

[54:37] you see there. It's approximately I I believe it's a little over 4,500 square

[54:42] f feet. We'll get to that specifically uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial

[54:47] Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman Industrial Court is on the left hand

[54:51] side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a short street uh that leads directly to a

[54:55] building that's in the background there. The next slide,

[54:59] this is the the uh just the tenant improvement plans that they're proposing

[55:03] uh that kind of exist in the existing site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I

[55:08] believe. Um they are when you look at it in comparison to the overall building

[55:13] which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000 ft². Uh they're a little bit of around

[55:19] an eighth of the whole building uh in there. And you can see the corner area

[55:22] that they'll be taking up their space. It's kind of proportion to the the size

[55:26] on on the uh on the plan. The next slide will identify what are they doing. It's

[55:34] a 4,566 square foot outpatient physical therapy

[55:37] clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the clinic provides multiddisciplinary

[55:42] therapy for physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech therapy

[55:46] at their site. Uh they currently operate in Creve Corore and they're relocating

[55:50] to etc which is great. Uh the next slide uh kind of goes over the commission did

[55:55] review it and they motioned to recommend to the council that the uh council

[55:59] consider and approve authorization of the special permit. They use of course

[56:03] the comprehensive plan, our community goals in their review. Uh we look at the

[56:07] principles for economic development and our comprehensive update goals which is

[56:10] environmental sustainability investment, crime prevention, native plantings and

[56:15] strategic redevelopment. And you can see the check boxes as we go through in

[56:19] there to complete those boxes. Of course, they are asking uh for some

[56:23] additional landscaping along the Dealman Industrial Drive uh component, which is

[56:27] the west side uh when you enter from the stop sign area uh to replace exterior

[56:31] wallpack lights with those compatible with chapter 428, meaning that they're

[56:34] cut off facing down uh and there. And then to limit the hours of operation

[56:38] from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done in collaboration with the petitioner.

[56:42] And the concern was because it's a pediatric facility just to make sure

[56:46] that uh they're not interrupting or um throughout the evening or when we have

[56:51] industrial traffic. On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter

[56:54] a couple of items just for the record. Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,

[56:58] including the 5-year economic development plan, the Alvette municipal

[57:02] code and zoning map, uh, the staff presentation and memorandum that was

[57:06] presented to the planning and community design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,

[57:10] including the petition and supporting plans and documents. Our public hearing

[57:14] notice, this is a public hearing. We were required to post this 15 days prior

[57:18] uh to tonight and that was posted in the the county in St. Louis County on August

[57:24] 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the properties that were notified. Uh we did

[57:28] 300 ft which is above and beyond the 185 called by code. Uh and then this

[57:33] presentation before the city council. So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any

[57:37] specific questions and then we do have representatives here I'd like to

[57:40] introduce. >> What's what was their current

[57:42] previously? what was who occupied? Uh it was an engineering firm I believe was

[57:48] the last uh firm that was there >> and it they're going to be if you don't

[57:52] mind going back to the uh overlay of the office they're going to be doing

[57:55] outpatient um I guess so patients come in and are

[58:00] seen there or is the expectation but because these are these cubes I guess

[58:05] I'm just wondering where where that occurs

[58:06] » kind of like shows the internal layout I think there's going to be some changes

[58:09] and modifications I think that's what it looks like right now uh in there so they

[58:13] haven't applied but but yes they do one-on-one therapies with uh individual

[58:17] clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in there, probably a question that can

[58:21] better address than I could on the description.

[58:24] » Um before we bring them up, other questions people have or

[58:27] » I had the same question. >> Yeah, I don't have it.

[58:30] » I had a question on the hours. So, pediatric means all the way through 18,

[58:34] right? So, is the city limiting the hours or is that something that SSM is

[58:39] choosing? >> We talked with SSM about what hours and

[58:42] in there and that was within that range. which I think they they close at 5:30.

[58:46] Something we can check with them again. >> Okay. Okay.

[58:50] » And then I was just curious, I don't see a landscape plan here yet, but um want

[58:54] to be clear about the area that this business would be working,

[59:00] » like what part of the parcel they would be working on to improve the landscaping

[59:05] and hopefully get some trees out there and native plants, something other than

[59:09] just the turf. Um, and then also curious if there's going to be any signage on

[59:16] that corner there or that little kind of >> Mhm.

[59:21] » park that pokes out on the corner. >> Um, if there's any kind of signage that

[59:26] they're >> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,

[59:30] uh, on the right hand side, you'll see Deman Industrial Drive. That's where

[59:34] we're asking for some additional landscaping to be placed in there with

[59:37] 50% of that being native. The one thing along this corner both going north

[59:42] [snorts] you know where I'm when you're looking at that right road you are going

[59:48] north to south uh on the left you're going east to west uh on both portions

[59:54] of the road and you can see some of the the the fiber indication there's fiber

[59:57] and underground utilities all running through uh through there where I have

[1:00:02] the most excess of rightway believe it or not is going to be on the western

[1:00:06] side this used to be an easement and that's where I believe maybe that's why

[1:00:10] there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh in place. When the city took over the

[1:00:13] roads, we took over just a significant portion. A lot of times the parking

[1:00:18] would have been further back, we would have more area for landscaping and and

[1:00:22] things of that nature. So, we're looking here on the right hand side as you can

[1:00:25] go uh north to south that they do some uh some additional landscaping uh in

[1:00:30] their trees to be careful. probably preference would be more ornamental, but

[1:00:35] nothing that's going to be deeprooted because they're going to there's

[1:00:38] continue a matter of fact uh there was markings uh this morning again that

[1:00:42] somebody's running some type of fiber optics or things uh of that nature. So,

[1:00:46] it continuously gets torn out, but we'd like to get them more towards uh on the

[1:00:52] western or the eastern part of that hump as you see in the the grading uh in

[1:00:57] there to kind of hide some of the parking

[1:01:00] in there. We didn't look at the north as they're kind of more facing towards

[1:01:04] Olive uh in there. But again, I know I have a lot of uh

[1:01:09] utility stuff that runs uh underneath and the sidewalk kind of extends more

[1:01:13] along that area uh in there, but it could be discussion we can have with the

[1:01:17] property owner. In terms of signage, no signage has been proposed.

[1:01:20] Traditionally, the signage has been uh on the wall in there. I anticipate that

[1:01:25] they will continue to do so. I know ImageNet, which is also located on that

[1:01:29] building at the far uh left end uh which would be the eastern end of the building

[1:01:35] does have a monument sign at that back corner. So if they do another one, they

[1:01:39] have to place it uh towards the other apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate

[1:01:44] anything towards the front. >> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,

[1:01:50] obviously to increase our environmental sustainability and to have plantings

[1:01:54] along that um area as much as possible that not only are good for the

[1:02:00] environment but can also provide shade um and reduce the heat on that um

[1:02:05] asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the other piece with Oh, and safety as well

[1:02:12] because you're going to have kids in that parking lot and obviously it's

[1:02:15] worst case scenario thinking that somebody's jump going to jump the curb

[1:02:18] and go over, you know, that's obviously worst case scenario, but any buffer

[1:02:22] » uh that we can put in there is a good one. Um, and the same concern with

[1:02:26] safety for signage. Um just so that when we've got parents who are looking for

[1:02:31] the facility that it's clear and we don't have kind of that driving around

[1:02:36] trying to find it because it is you know somewhat tucked down um

[1:02:42] back behind there just so that it's it's clearly clearly seen and visible um for

[1:02:47] your visitors for your patients and their families.

[1:02:50] » It's something we can look at and discuss with it. And again, I just want

[1:02:53] to be clear in terms of the the two on the first comp component of that, the

[1:02:58] sustainability aspect as we're looking at some of the the plantings and the

[1:03:03] native species, the concern would be on the trees being too too big in there

[1:03:07] because of the >> uh because of the utilities that run on

[1:03:12] that north side. Now, right here where the bench is set, there is more depth

[1:03:16] and I think it's the parking stall length and we can talk with them if

[1:03:19] that's an area that they could do more of the shade aspect of it as opposed to

[1:03:23] the decorative part component of it. >> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes

[1:03:26] or something that it would help and put that barrier

[1:03:30] » is the you know the white and orange pole that you can see in the front of

[1:03:35] the picture but then also on that right side there is that the marking for the

[1:03:39] fiber optic cable >> one of the companies

[1:03:42] » I would assume it doesn't represent all of the companies and then you can see

[1:03:45] the little square in there represents somebody's vault

[1:03:49] » to get in in that space. So is the idea being though that the general location

[1:03:54] of those lines is approximately on the right side approximately the same as

[1:04:00] what we can see in the in the foreground of the image

[1:04:03] » at least for the ones that are marked. Yes.

[1:04:04] » Okay. >> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually

[1:04:08] about 2 feet below below grade which is not much when you kind of think about

[1:04:12] it. Okay.

[1:04:15] » Why don't we bring the petitioner? you ask questions.

[1:04:28] » How are you? >> Good. Hello.

[1:04:30] » My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional director for um SSM Health Cardinal

[1:04:34] Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you for letting us be here today.

[1:04:39] » Happy to answer any questions. >> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president

[1:04:43] of operations for the company. >> Um yeah, I think the question we had is

[1:04:46] just the layout. it patients will be seen in there and

[1:04:50] » is it is it just kind of open like your counseling so it is cubes or is it

[1:04:54] actually like private facility or how what what kind of things you know are

[1:04:58] happening usually >> there'll be an open space like a gym for

[1:05:01] more like physical therapy but we we'll probably have I mean I would say seven

[1:05:07] or eight individual treatment rooms that are more where speech therapists would

[1:05:11] work with individual patient >> so this is not necessarily what the

[1:05:15] layout >> this is this is what it looks like now

[1:05:17] we to do something different with it. Um, so where there'd be, you know,

[1:05:22] individual treatment rooms, again, they're not big, but they're

[1:05:25] » Yeah, and there Yep.

[1:05:28] » The treatment rooms will be around the perimeter and the gym space would be in

[1:05:31] the middle. >> Okay. For actual PT itself and things

[1:05:34] like that. >> Yep.

[1:05:35] » Okay. >> Will it be possible to have uh the

[1:05:39] drawing of how how you envision this? it. I think it's just very helpful for

[1:05:43] us to actually have the drawing in front of us as opposed to each of our brains

[1:05:48] kind of thinking what it might look like.

[1:05:50] » I have I have we have a clinic that's very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza

[1:05:56] and I have that drawing that I can share with you that we will use that that kind

[1:06:02] of design for this space. So I can I would be would love to share that with

[1:06:06] you. bring that for the second reading or for Carla M the Trey House has

[1:06:09] probably forward it to us >> and this is eventually going to go to

[1:06:13] planning and zoning once if this is approved and then they'll have the full

[1:06:19] sets of drawings and landscape plans and things like that. Is that correct?

[1:06:24] » No. >> No.

[1:06:26] » Oh yeah. I want to see it now. >> No, it would be more regarding the use

[1:06:29] and the the operations of the use. The the improvements would be internal uh in

[1:06:34] there. So that generally that would go back to the commission for for review.

[1:06:38] Uh there was a code and the the number of exits and the use is going to dictate

[1:06:42] what how that space >> how people geointer currently is not

[1:06:46] necessarily our >> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the

[1:06:48] commissioner was comfortable with it administratively you know that as long

[1:06:51] as they submit some type of landscaping uh in there and then set the condition

[1:06:56] of the 50% native. >> Yes.

[1:06:57] » Uh in there gives us the guidance of what they're looking for. Okay, I

[1:07:01] understand. >> And that just be helpful if you send an

[1:07:03] example just so we can, you know, visualize it. Appreciate it.

[1:07:07] » Like before the second, you' like >> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward

[1:07:10] it to us and then we'll have it before the second and just helps us visual.

[1:07:13] Again, it's your internal not ours. But, uh, just that's where I was struggling.

[1:07:17] I'm like, I don't understand. >> What is it? You know,

[1:07:20] » hey, I'm like, it's your your your business,

[1:07:23] » you know. >> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having

[1:07:25] that information, you know, I know you you have presented this to the PCDC a

[1:07:30] few months ago. Um, and so like the the understanding that for a landscaping

[1:07:35] plan has been kind of out there for a little bit. So it would be nice to see

[1:07:39] some movement towards getting a clearer sense of what that is as well as what

[1:07:44] your layout internally is before the second reading.

[1:07:48] » Okay. >> So that we're really clear on what what

[1:07:50] we're approving. Um, >> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my

[1:07:54] hesitancy is not anything about this business or anything. I'm I think it's a

[1:07:58] good use. I think it's >> um great uh to have this here and all of

[1:08:03] it. And I'd like to have a clear sense of what we're approving before we

[1:08:07] approve it. >> Sure.

[1:08:10] » All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

[1:08:13] » Happy to be here. Thank you. >> Did you have

[1:08:15] » Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew Clary with Intel. I work with the

[1:08:21] landlord on this building. I just had a a quick comment question on the the

[1:08:27] conditions of the landscaping. Um, so Carlos mentioned there's some fiber

[1:08:31] optic optic cables that run on the inside or just on the outside of the

[1:08:36] sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very similar one just on the other side. You

[1:08:41] can't see it, but it's right there in front of a manhole. Um, would it be

[1:08:46] beneficial at all if we did more landscaping right where that park bench

[1:08:50] is instead of along the the western

[1:08:54] barrier? My view is more landscaping anywhere is

[1:08:58] good. Like so as many native or this council is generally I won't speak for

[1:09:03] everyone but it's generally in favor of native plants and beautifying and just

[1:09:06] adding sustainability. So um there's many many ways to attack that. So I

[1:09:10] think um yeah, we have to be sensitive to the cabling and not get in the way of

[1:09:14] utilities and trees and things like that. So we're not in any way saying,

[1:09:17] "Oh, no, just put trees everywhere." It's what are the best use of native

[1:09:20] plants sustainability that are aesthetically looking that are good

[1:09:24] maintenance, you know, and see and and I think it's just seeing what would look

[1:09:28] like. >> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple

[1:09:31] thoughts on what we were planning on doing to this building. So it's it's

[1:09:34] been under a new owner since about October. Um, the building, I don't know

[1:09:38] if you've driven by it frequently, but it looks very tired on the outside. So,

[1:09:43] the signage is all mismatched. Festive is is on that corner. Their signs about

[1:09:47] this big, literally. Um, and so we're trying to make the signage consistent.

[1:09:52] We trying to make it prettier, channel cut lettering if available. Um, repaint

[1:09:56] the exterior of the building. We were welcoming the light improvements. Um, we

[1:10:00] were planning on doing that anyway. Uh, and so I was trying to get to an

[1:10:06] understanding of is it more beautifification or is it more safety

[1:10:10] barrier now that you have a better understanding of their hours of

[1:10:13] operation or is it a little bit of both? Because I could probably do more

[1:10:17] landscaping near the park bench, more in front of

[1:10:22] the building. I guess what I'm getting at is I want to create the barrier. I

[1:10:26] want it to be pretty. I don't I I would love to not do too much because we're

[1:10:29] going to make the building look a lot nicer and I would hate for it to be

[1:10:32] obuscated >> if we have hedges grow too tall. But

[1:10:36] I'll you know >> that's nice to have not

[1:10:38] » at least from my perspective with the landscaping you know it's it's

[1:10:42] addressing sustainability and aesthetic purposes. Okay.

[1:10:46] » Um but with the sustainability piece you know trees provide benefits a multitude

[1:10:51] of benefits. storm water control, cooling, um biodiversity,

[1:10:57] uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So, and trees give you the biggest bang for

[1:11:03] your buck over time. >> Mhm.

[1:11:05] » Low low maintenance generally too. >> That is and it it is a triple net

[1:11:09] building and so increasing the maintenance cost does get passed back to

[1:11:12] the tenants and >> Yeah.

[1:11:14] » So, trying to find that happy medium. >> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not

[1:11:18] a dictative. It's just a anywhere we can, especially when we're approving new

[1:11:22] things, we're saying let's continue sustainability goals. I'm less concerned

[1:11:25] about the safety. It's always a nice thing, but at least there is also a

[1:11:28] ridge up, which is nice. It's a very large area versus just a curb.

[1:11:32] » Um, but yeah, I think we just like to see us continuing to grow and get more

[1:11:36] sustainable. So, but to your point, >> you don't want to block the signage

[1:11:39] you're going to put up either. It's a balance.

[1:11:41] » Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same page. we'll get you something has a

[1:11:44] really good sense of I think of >> what we're

[1:11:47] » we've had these conversations in multiple forms. So, um I think he's

[1:11:51] probably well equipped to advise on that.

[1:11:54] » He has been you guys have always been very helpful too. So,

[1:11:56] » what what color are you going to paint the building?

[1:11:58] » That's a good question. Um >> and are you going to paint? It looks

[1:12:03] like there's masonry. >> No, right now our our thought was just

[1:12:07] the facade. Um but it's it's a it's barely a thought. Are you are you

[1:12:13] familiar with what they did with the cone elevator building just a little bit

[1:12:16] further down? >> No.

[1:12:17] » It's probably it's right next to Stone Fabricators and PK Construction, but if

[1:12:22] you look at the before and after of what they did, they painted it white and blue

[1:12:25] accents. It looks incredible. So, it's it's something that would be tasteful

[1:12:30] and nice and and not obnoxious, but if if you go go look at it sometime this

[1:12:36] week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's just there's a light that's it just

[1:12:39] needs to be needs to be redone. So, >> if you can kind of describe what that's

[1:12:44] going to be, you know, what color, what what what you guys decide before the

[1:12:48] next reading, that would be great, too. >> Yeah, we'll try and um put something

[1:12:52] together like that along with a landscaping plan.

[1:12:55] » I could be wrong. These they're not necessarily tied together, right?

[1:12:58] Because we're talking you're talking about the entire building versus just

[1:13:00] this. So, good point. >> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the

[1:13:03] PNC. >> I don't want to stop this or makes

[1:13:05] sense. >> Let's do both. Yeah,

[1:13:07] » I don't I don't want to encumber that or but I just wanted to let you know of our

[1:13:11] plans anyway. >> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I

[1:13:12] appreciate the unification. So, >> of course.

[1:13:15] » Cool. All right. >> Thank you.

[1:13:17] » Thank you. Other public comments? >> No. All right. Anyone online?

[1:13:24] Anything else from the council? >> No.

[1:13:27] » All right. We will go ahead and close the public hearing then and then there

[1:13:31] will be a second reading of this bill on September 8th. Thank you very much for

[1:13:35] coming. Appreciate it. >> Thank you.

[1:13:38] » All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill 3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title

[1:13:44] to be read. Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a

[1:13:49] special permit use for New Blueprint Partners LLC, owners of the property

[1:13:53] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to

[1:13:57] operate a 6,614 square foot enclosed recreational use

[1:14:02] within the tenants space addressed as 1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First

[1:14:05] reading and public hearing. >> All right, I will go ahead and open the

[1:14:08] public hearing as well and another great presentation.

[1:14:11] » Good evening, mayor. And just for the record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the

[1:14:14] director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And

[1:14:17] tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071 which is a special permit request for an

[1:14:23] enclosed recreational use at 1220 North Price Road uh suite number four uh in

[1:14:28] that building. That is the same building where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on

[1:14:33] the northern end and underneath Pedell and Pickle is actually uh u

[1:14:39] beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm sorry I can think of the name. And then

[1:14:43] right in the middle you have uh uh door.com

[1:14:47] uh that that's located uh that kind of wraps. And then this is a little corner

[1:14:51] piece that I'll show you more specifically in a second. So if you go

[1:14:54] to the next slide, it is an old uh an older building that was built uh I

[1:14:58] believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre

[1:15:03] lot with 134,000 uh square foot uh was considered of

[1:15:08] office manufacturing, warehousing, and distilling uh that took place at one

[1:15:12] time. Now we have uh recreational use with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with

[1:15:17] auto beauty specialists and then some distribution and offices with locked uh

[1:15:21] with uh lock.com or door.com uh on the site. the there's

[1:15:28] one more piece uh of the building that is up for lease uh and it's roughly

[1:15:33] about 6,700 square ft² and that's where you see the orange door there at the

[1:15:37] lower right hand corner uh is where they're looking to take a a piece of

[1:15:42] that. It's very oddly configured because over time as that property was improved

[1:15:47] they they did it in phases and pieces uh in there and of course it was the old

[1:15:50] Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was operating on that site. property grounds

[1:15:55] are zone LI light industrial district and enclosed recreational uses and

[1:16:00] outdoor recreational uses are permitted uses in the LI district but subject to a

[1:16:05] special permit meaning they're not industrial but they can be compatible

[1:16:08] with a lot of the industrial uses that we have there and of course I noted we

[1:16:11] have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh just to the left of it you had the

[1:16:15] bridge uh facility um in there and then we used to have the old town in tennis

[1:16:19] just down the block uh not too far from where SSM was looking at the next slide

[1:16:25] We have a procedure for special permit requests. It's a recommend review and

[1:16:29] recommendation by the council by the commission. Uh they forward that to the

[1:16:33] council which holds a public hearing and then has a action via an ordinance

[1:16:38] special permit process. We have a procedure that's outlined within our

[1:16:41] ordinance that looks about looks at the impact to it to limitations. Uh but

[1:16:46] always, you know, trying to see how we can further our comprehensive plan uh

[1:16:49] goals and updates. And I'm sorry about the lower left hand that should have

[1:16:53] been LI district uh in there on that side. The next slide will kind of talk

[1:16:57] about general conditions of a special permit. So what do we do is that we make

[1:17:01] sure it's listed in the district that it first to go a comprehensive plan that

[1:17:05] the location is suitable to the environment and surroundings. Sometimes

[1:17:07] it could be doing topography some natural features is is the property flat

[1:17:12] is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh are the improvements complimentary to

[1:17:17] the neighboring uses? Did they demonstrate that they're mitigating any

[1:17:21] spillover effects that would adversely impact the addition properties? And then

[1:17:25] of course the city has the authority to require whether buffering aesthetic

[1:17:29] enhancements, designate areas for open space, set limitations on operations,

[1:17:33] implement a schedule and that is you know requiring things to happen over a

[1:17:37] certain amount of time and consider adequacy of public services such as fire

[1:17:43] uh medical police type of services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and

[1:17:46] bolts. This is a corner of the building. Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's

[1:17:51] a big building. Um, they're taking this uh kind of uh front view here where the

[1:17:58] orange door is, but not the whole thing. It's just the on the left hand side, the

[1:18:02] the first two uh components where you see the vertical uh things right there

[1:18:08] and then it kind of L-shapes and goes back. So, you actually enter the

[1:18:12] building uh from from that gap between where the cursor is and to the far left

[1:18:19] uh in there. There's a little cove that's a little bit further back. Thank

[1:18:22] you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the enter entrance is. And I'll show you a

[1:18:26] little bit more when we get into the aerial view. The next slide will kind of

[1:18:30] show how that is set up. And again, uh sorry, I'm using white on the white

[1:18:35] background. Uh, but you can see this L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto

[1:18:39] the 134,000 foot building. You can see that cove area in that cove area on the

[1:18:44] lefth hand side is the layout. There's a 66

[1:18:48] uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey

[1:18:56] projects facility. Who is your your petitioner? The next slide.

[1:19:02] What is being proposed? The operations are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor

[1:19:06] field hockey practice facility. In this facility, the operations will include

[1:19:10] training, one-on-one coaching, office operations, and then video productions

[1:19:15] that they use for uh uh for promoting purposes for the uh for the individual

[1:19:19] athletes uh for schools and and things of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we

[1:19:25] go through the PCDC, they went and they reviewed it. Again they have a process

[1:19:29] to review it in accordance with uh our ordinance in special permit uses and

[1:19:33] then also our comprehensive plan. Uh when you look at economic development

[1:19:37] and investment, it also has its own specific goals about environmental

[1:19:41] sustainability, investment, crime prevention, uh native plantings and

[1:19:45] strategic redevelopment. So in their review, the commission uh motioned that

[1:19:49] the council consider authorizing the special permit through this ordinance.

[1:19:53] However, they also laid out the following conditions. One is to limit

[1:19:56] the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,

[1:20:00] that was a discussion with the petitioner of what their operating hours

[1:20:03] would be. Uh, and there uh to replace the exterior wallpack lights with uh

[1:20:07] those that are cut off and facing down compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree

[1:20:12] health assessment and replacement plan with 50% of those being native. There

[1:20:16] was several trees along the perimeter of the the the site as itself. you know,

[1:20:20] different differentiating it from the petitioner here. Uh, and there and some

[1:20:25] of them had been cut down and some of them uh seemed like they they were not

[1:20:29] as healthy. And then to replace some of the deteriorated fencing sections uh

[1:20:33] that were on the uh south side of the property uh uh in there the next slide,

[1:20:40] mayor, if I can just enter a couple of items into the record. Uh, one is our

[1:20:44] 2024 comprehensive plan update, including our 5-year economic

[1:20:47] development plan, the Olivette municipal code and zoning map, the staff

[1:20:51] presentation and memorandum presented to the planning and community design

[1:20:54] commission dated July 23rd, 2026, including the petition and supporting

[1:20:58] plans and documents. The public hearing notice, of course, this is a public

[1:21:02] hearing. We're required to post this in the county and St. Louis County. It was

[1:21:06] published on August 10th, 2026. And then you have a list of the properties that

[1:21:09] were identified or notified uh regarding that twice. Uh they get a postcard

[1:21:14] before it goes to the commission and then they also get a public hearing

[1:21:18] notice uh prior to our meeting here at council and then the presentation before

[1:21:22] council dated August 25th, 2026. I do have representatives here in attendance,

[1:21:27] but I'd like be glad to answer uh specific questions about the building

[1:21:30] and the operations. >> I have questions mostly for the

[1:21:33] petitioner. So before we bring them up, anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.

[1:21:38] » Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to

[1:21:41] see the parking lot when they're when it's gets a little bit busier.

[1:21:45] » It does it just want to make sure that there are enough spots for all the

[1:21:48] tenants if this goes through. Especially if you know there's a team or a couple

[1:21:53] of teams practicing, everyone drives in their own cars.

[1:21:57] » End up with an extra with an extra 30 cars. [snorts]

[1:22:00] » Would that be enough space? And if not, where would the overflow be?

[1:22:04] » Well, good question. Uh if you we can go back to the aerial. I think it's about

[1:22:09] uh three on on this site. Well, one

[1:22:14] uh on this site. So you can see um there's that center parking uh in in

[1:22:20] that area primarily used by by lock uh door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and

[1:22:26] pickle uses part of that and then they uh expanded their have the uh the

[1:22:30] parking facility there on the lower left corner uh in there. and you see that

[1:22:35] that aisle in there. Uh they've always wanted to expand in that green space,

[1:22:39] but then that would trigger MSD review and and storm water. So, there's always

[1:22:42] that caveat that we have available there. But then there's some additional

[1:22:46] parking on the far right end of the building uh in there. It's kind of

[1:22:50] separate and independent, but they also operate this. Yes.

[1:22:54] » To the f Okay, >> that that area where the cursor is at.

[1:22:58] » Would would that be another entrance or would people have to walk around?

[1:23:01] » They would have to walk around. They're they're not in the way the in the

[1:23:06] original building everything was all within within [snorts] reach. Now that

[1:23:09] things have been separated, yes, the parking is all kind of uh disassociated

[1:23:13] with the with the spaces. >> But it's always a good question. I mean,

[1:23:18] I always hear, you know, that's a lot of parking. You know, do do they really

[1:23:22] need all that surface area? And you try to balance that. Do they really have

[1:23:25] enough parking uh in there? You know, from a planning perspective, there are

[1:23:30] in our code, there are some some minimums. We go by minimums uh in there

[1:23:35] that they have to have a minimum amount based on the type of activity that takes

[1:23:39] place. For recreational uses, it's based on square footage. There's a simple

[1:23:42] calculation that we use to calculate that. For the office, it's based on on a

[1:23:47] similar weight. Uh but then they're in a match. And then our code allows us to

[1:23:52] provide some overlap. So if this use needs this much parking, this use need

[1:23:56] needs this much parking, this use needs this much parking, you can have some

[1:23:59] overlap that that some may come in at night, some may come in during the day

[1:24:03] um in there. So it allows for that process in there to help try to balance

[1:24:07] it uh in there. But again, it's, you know, from a professional view, it's

[1:24:13] like I I think if if people are unhappy with

[1:24:18] the parking, they're going to go somewhere else to find a better facility

[1:24:21] that can accommodate them. And it impacts the user in there. We want to

[1:24:24] keep these uses viable. We want to keep our residents and and and the region

[1:24:29] coming to our our our location uh in there, but this is a fine balance as

[1:24:34] opposed to having over parking. We had the conversation when uh Murthy Health

[1:24:38] Systems was looking at the pharmacy and we were asking can we get rid of parking

[1:24:42] spaces uh back there and it's tough >> for this area specifically. I just want

[1:24:47] to make sure people are not parking along the road or something like that.

[1:24:50] So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if we have that lot in the back.

[1:24:55] » But a good question. I mean it's it's one of the things we struggle with and

[1:24:59] finding that right mix, right balance. Mhm.

[1:25:01] » Um, related to parking, I'm interested in kind of hearing your perspective on

[1:25:06] the traffic flow on this lot. Just recognizing that it has kind of an

[1:25:10] unusual setup with the two entrances. Um, you

[1:25:15] know, it's not a cir circle drive, but you know, kind of coming in from both

[1:25:20] sides. And then the extended part that I'm assuming when this was more serving

[1:25:26] an industrial purpose um was set up for truck loading and unloading. Um and I

[1:25:34] guess I'm just I'm curious in this parcel recognizing how the uses have

[1:25:40] shifted um pretty significantly. Um, other than Door, perhaps Door still uses

[1:25:47] the larger trucks for uh deliveries and loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd

[1:25:53] be curious to know um if this current traffic configuration

[1:26:00] is the best um

[1:26:04] use of that space um and or the safest use recognizing

[1:26:11] that you know for field hockey you'll have parents driving but you my guess

[1:26:15] [clears throat] is potentially some of the clients will be uh older

[1:26:20] kids young adults who are driving themselves and aren't necessarily known

[1:26:24] for being the best drivers. Um, and trying to trying to make that that

[1:26:31] particular area work in a way that um it seems a little the setup as it is now

[1:26:39] is a little odd for the uses that are being

[1:26:42] » No, it's a very good question. >> Those buildings

[1:26:45] » in there a good question uh just on the timing on on here. So, and and this is

[1:26:53] this is why it's a special permit. I mean, we have seen our industrial parks.

[1:26:58] There's not much industrial going on in those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen

[1:27:04] the the the the road and all that. This used to be all private. So, those dock

[1:27:09] doors all worked uh in there because they were not under our jurisdiction uh

[1:27:14] and in place. Now, we've taken up those spaces in there. And these buildings

[1:27:18] still are industrial buildings trying to be retrofitted for uses that that were

[1:27:24] or you know that that were not designed or or built. And that's why we go

[1:27:29] through these processes. You know, this is the third time that I've been here

[1:27:33] just for this building. You know, we did that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it

[1:27:36] for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath uh in there and then now we're doing it

[1:27:41] for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there. You know, I couldn't give you a straight

[1:27:47] answer of is this, you know, professionally, is this the ideal

[1:27:51] parking configuration? No. No, it's not. This is what what I have to work with

[1:27:56] and what how it's put in place. uh things that would I would would be ideal

[1:28:01] for that parking is to make it more uniform and and uh

[1:28:07] you know uh polygono or or so but then it triggers things because then you get

[1:28:13] rid of that green space and then MSD gets involved in all that and then the

[1:28:16] cost of trying to retrofit these buildings becomes more difficult um uh

[1:28:21] in there. I think it's something we have to kind of look over time uh in there.

[1:28:28] We I'm not aware that that there's been any incidents uh in the spaces, but we

[1:28:32] only have three of the four tenants in in there right now. Uh with uh auto

[1:28:37] beauty, that's solely storage and those are moved from just kind of back and

[1:28:40] forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle, you know, I know they have their their

[1:28:46] their their operation their times kind of fluctuate over time and it's just

[1:28:50] going to be kind of looking at how that mixture works between the two. The only

[1:28:53] constant is Door.com. We know who's there during during the regular hours

[1:28:57] and then when when they leave uh in there, it could be something that we

[1:29:01] could look at, you know, how are the hours of operating working with with

[1:29:04] that over time. uh or you know talk about how do we get more connectivity uh

[1:29:10] with some of the other spots in there depends on when I go out there you know

[1:29:14] it's full and you can see uh to the left on on the on the slide you know all that

[1:29:20] parking right there is bridge uh in there and it was like when we were going

[1:29:26] through that we didn't anticipate you know that volume um in that place but

[1:29:30] we've been fortunate that the mix of that building has been you know kind of

[1:29:33] balances pretty well you don't go there during the bridge time, you're going to

[1:29:37] get pretty good parking. If it's during bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're

[1:29:40] kind of moving around trying to find a space in there, but then they have a

[1:29:43] similar pattern where the parking wraps around the building and then there's a

[1:29:47] whole another field on the north side uh of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough

[1:29:52] spots. It certainly does meet our code. Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.

[1:29:58] It it isn't. But I think we have to see how we, you know, how these buildings

[1:30:02] kind of transition and how this parking kind of works over time.

[1:30:07] » What the current hours for paddle and pickle? Do you happen to know?

[1:30:12] » Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have an early start like 6:00 a.m.

[1:30:19] » And paddle pickles where on here with the curses are

[1:30:22] » Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there. >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:30:26] » And they do actually use a parking lot. That's where that blue truck, blue roof

[1:30:31] » right in that area. >> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking

[1:30:34] too. Like >> an old old picture then.

[1:30:37] » It's I don't know that it's marked right now, but people just park there in a row

[1:30:41] and it's pretty organized. >> Oh, okay.

[1:30:44] » I've seen it many times. >> How crowded is it when you're if you've

[1:30:48] been there? >> I think I mean from what I've seen, they

[1:30:52] only take up that wider part of the parking. They don't even end up much on

[1:30:56] the pavement. So,

[1:30:58] » okay. >> So, it sounds like it there should be

[1:31:01] room. >> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other

[1:31:03] parking lot on the far right, I mean, that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I

[1:31:08] imagine it's also by hour times things make difference

[1:31:11] » because I love this reuse. >> Yeah. It's exciting

[1:31:15] » to these types of >> and it draws people. They want to get

[1:31:19] dinner afterwards. They want to do things like that. It's great

[1:31:22] » and it's unique to the community, right? >> It's it's a great

[1:31:27] bring up the petitioner. So I have just random questions. I'm curious more

[1:31:30] curiosity questions. So like

[1:31:37] » evening >> evening. Thank you guys so much for your

[1:31:39] time with this and consideration. I'm Lauren Kornweight, the founder and

[1:31:42] director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been at this for 20 years and have a vision

[1:31:46] for for the next step. So >> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a

[1:31:51] representative for Lauren and the real estate.

[1:31:53] » Great. Um I was curious two things. hours only because again I feel like it

[1:31:58] might be different thinking about my son's soccer and the private things like

[1:32:00] they easily do things till 10 o'clock at night and so it's you're comfortable

[1:32:04] with the hours because it is light industrial so we have a little bit of

[1:32:07] give so >> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of

[1:32:10] um the you know during the day is going to be just office use for we just have

[1:32:15] four of us in there so it's not like a huge you know for parking or whatever um

[1:32:21] and then I am comfortable with the hours it's going to be a lot of small group

[1:32:24] and private training and not like loads of teams coming in that space.

[1:32:29] » Okay, >> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm

[1:32:31] surprised too like your choice field hockey, but you guys don't ever open it

[1:32:36] up to anything else like football or other, you know, trainings. You just it

[1:32:40] only dedicates to field. >> I mean, this is again we've been doing

[1:32:42] this 20 years and we just focused on field hockey, but

[1:32:45] » it's a win. Okay, >> great.

[1:32:48] » How many uh players are training at any one time? Oh, thank you.

[1:32:53] » We'll we'll be looking at doing small group. Well, some will be literally

[1:32:56] private one-on-one, but we'll be looking at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.

[1:33:02] » Yeah, that's right. >> So, this is kind of a new concept, so

[1:33:06] it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence kind of gone out on a limb here because

[1:33:10] all these indoor practice facility, anyone who uses turf, they're all

[1:33:14] fighting over each other for Veta in the different turf

[1:33:17] » areas. So, Lauren's still going to utilize those spaces. This will be a

[1:33:21] complimentary facility for her where she can do smaller group training

[1:33:26] one-on-one. She does a lot of recruitment videos for college and

[1:33:29] things like that. So, it'll have like a video production room.

[1:33:33] » Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think she knows what she's gone through a

[1:33:38] heavy business plan. So, I think it's going to be a great facility. And

[1:33:43] honestly, the um the previous meeting we went to, they were like, "We think

[1:33:49] you're going to outgrow this facility and need to go get a bigger facility."

[1:33:51] So, it's going to it's a new concept in the indoor space. There's no one else

[1:33:55] doing it. We're excited about it. We're happy to be in Alvette. This is a great

[1:33:59] location. The property is well lit and it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the

[1:34:04] all the other businesses are in the afternoons, they'll be winding down on

[1:34:07] their business where she'll be picking up from when kids get out of school

[1:34:11] until the evening hours. So I think it's complimentary and then a lot of the

[1:34:15] parents when they drop their kids off they can go support the other businesses

[1:34:19] in the community or go over to pet pedal and pickle and make reservations and so

[1:34:23] maybe that helps from the parking standoint as well.

[1:34:26] » Could I address just your question earlier also um we serve like

[1:34:32] three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of our clients are are parent drivers. Um,

[1:34:39] we do have some, you know, the 16, 17, 18 year olds and I do understand your

[1:34:43] question with that, but it's that's going to be a small percentage.

[1:34:47] » I do imagine you will do quite well because I can imagine a lot of people

[1:34:50] that's why I asked about other sports because the recruitment as my son's

[1:34:53] going through that kind of thing right now. It's um a space where you could do

[1:34:57] that privately and get that and have video. I question do you plan maybe you

[1:35:00] don't because the size isn't like food. You're not selling food. We're not No,

[1:35:04] we don't have like a grillin bar or anything like that. think like a veta or

[1:35:08] something like that. Okay. >> You don't want any part of that.

[1:35:11] » I don't want to venture into that. >> I understand. I just wanted to check.

[1:35:14] So, >> all right.

[1:35:17] » Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use. I love to see the building repurposed um

[1:35:22] and and especially providing something that's unique um and sounds like a

[1:35:28] really great market to address. Um, and yeah, my my concerns really are more

[1:35:35] about the building and the kind of weird driving situation that exists. I don't

[1:35:40] have any concerns about the business other than the potential that you will

[1:35:44] be more successful and uh outgrow this space too quickly.

[1:35:50] So, we are in a little bit of a So, when we negotiated this deal on the building,

[1:35:56] the there was a new buyer coming in for the building, which is the Bluepoint or

[1:36:00] whatever LLC that's on the agenda for this evening. It is kind of an emergency

[1:36:06] situation. and Lauren got busy in the spring and we burned some time and then

[1:36:10] we realized when we went to permits that we figured pedal and pickle and it

[1:36:15] wasn't talked about with the previous lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit

[1:36:18] within the light industrial without a special use permit. So now we're in a

[1:36:22] situation where construction's been delayed. So really what we're trying to

[1:36:26] achieve is to get this thing off center because it's she's a small business and

[1:36:32] she's got time burning on at least right now and we're confident we can get

[1:36:35] through this with you guys and make the compromises needed to make sure everyone

[1:36:39] in the city is happy with the use. But it's kind of like we need I think what

[1:36:44] Carlos suggested is that we need to have it as an emergency so we can get a first

[1:36:48] and second reading. So whatever accommodations

[1:36:51] Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see if we can move this forward this evening

[1:36:59] if you guys would be open to that. >> Don't know from policy how that works in

[1:37:03] terms of because because we have to post agendas

[1:37:06] » start the review of the uh the permit plans with them uh and then that's

[1:37:10] something we can offer >> to move I'm sorry

[1:37:13] » to kind of facilitate and start the the permit review the the building permit

[1:37:17] plans before the council authorizes. So, it's a risk we take, but it's something.

[1:37:22] » Yeah. And I think if it sounds like they're willing to work, so I think that

[1:37:25] makes sense to start early. We can't authorize until the second reading, but

[1:37:28] I think that gets you forward versus waiting to the second reading then to do

[1:37:32] that, right? So, it keeps us on track, if that makes sense. So,

[1:37:35] » what is the policy? Can we do a first and second reading on one day?

[1:37:39] » I don't know how we can do that. >> Technically, you can. Um, it was not

[1:37:43] advertised on the agenda that you were going to vote on it this evening. So, um

[1:37:48] that would have been useful, but uh technically you could you need to vote

[1:37:53] as a council. Someone needs to make a motion to hold the second reading this

[1:37:58] evening and then you need to vote on that motion and then you would be um you

[1:38:03] could then vote um on the

[1:38:10] » vote. Correct.

[1:38:14] And I guess though, Carlos, does it speed us up that much? Because the

[1:38:16] plans, how long is it going to take you guys to work through that?

[1:38:19] » Takes about right now we're about 15 days out for review comments.

[1:38:24] » Okay. So, if you start working with them immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days

[1:38:27] anyway. And so, to me, >> it's going to be two weeks before we

[1:38:31] vote on this again, right? >> And so, I I don't think it's going to

[1:38:34] change anything anyway. And I'd rather if we didn't need to um if it was going

[1:38:38] to dash but so I think starting as soon as we can on just review to help them

[1:38:41] out would be great if >> it's something we can do without you

[1:38:43] with or without the >> okay before the only concern is in it

[1:38:47] was my understanding in the past it it sets a precedent and then they're always

[1:38:51] asking us the staff you know about >> yeah I think I think it's understood and

[1:38:56] so we need to be careful on that and not and not uh so recognizing that there's a

[1:39:01] need to burn and we really excited about the reuse of the building so you know

[1:39:04] open to that. But, uh, it's a good call out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.

[1:39:08] » I would be comfortable if we entertained a second rating tonight. Does how does

[1:39:14] anybody else feel? >> I mean, if it if it's going to

[1:39:20] if it's going to expedite helping them move forward faster, I'm okay with it.

[1:39:24] But if it's not going to make any difference, stick to what we're doing

[1:39:27] now. >> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I

[1:39:29] wouldn't be totally objecting to it except it does set precedent for us,

[1:39:33] too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's going to accelerate at this point in the

[1:39:37] period. >> And I say leave everything the way it

[1:39:38] is, but it might help Carlos so he doesn't get

[1:39:42] » Well, it's one of these where one way or the other we're establishing a tricky

[1:39:46] precedent. >> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with

[1:39:50] Carlos working with the petitioner on the building permit side of things than

[1:39:57] making a decision in the middle of a council meeting to adjust our processes.

[1:40:02] Um, that we we were not prepped for ahead of time to do something like that.

[1:40:07] And I think adjusting something like that in in a council meeting at itself,

[1:40:12] I I don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos

[1:40:18] the question for you is or Mr. is it any concerns from you moving forward on your

[1:40:22] side sooner than later? >> No, I mean they started off with permit

[1:40:26] plans. So I think they're they're they should have the contractor is here uh in

[1:40:31] » I don't want to put you guys in a bind either if that's something that you guys

[1:40:34] can't staff timing or anything like that either. So that would

[1:40:37] » correct but I think we can coordinate and get that that okay you know that

[1:40:40] first round going >> if you guys are good we'll have move

[1:40:42] forward that way. I think it'll end about the same time either way and I I

[1:40:45] would agree with Chairman Bam on that. >> So, realistically, when would the second

[1:40:49] reading be? >> ETH.

[1:40:51] » ETH. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> And signage for the building. I don't

[1:40:54] know if we covered that. I apologize. >> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I

[1:40:59] have talked about it. It would go if you go forward a couple, you can see the

[1:41:03] orange door.

[1:41:08] » Oh, wrong way. We could put a sign there to

[1:41:11] » Yeah, you could put a big arrow. >> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it

[1:41:17] hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM above that loading door

[1:41:22] um on that orange panel right there. >> But the loading door is not you're not

[1:41:26] using that door as an entrance. >> No.

[1:41:29] » Okay. >> And just to so you guys understand, this

[1:41:32] space only accounts for about 2% of the entire building. And um the the way this

[1:41:38] space lays out, the entry will be on the other side of that orange door, but

[1:41:42] directly on the other side of the space. So that'll be the main entry point.

[1:41:45] You're not going to be entering from the price side. But the way it's laid out

[1:41:49] and the previous owner, they were basically talking about mothballing that

[1:41:54] space because it's laid out so inefficiently for really any other use

[1:41:58] than recreational or special use. So just because it's hard to get into stuff

[1:42:04] on the right side of this drawing which used to be a rail loaded is really tired

[1:42:08] space that you know frankly Lauren's spending a lot of money that she's

[1:42:13] investing into the space herself rather than landlord and the other space that

[1:42:16] Lord loading dock comes up and it makes a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is

[1:42:21] really it sat for a long time where they almost said let's just forget about

[1:42:26] leasing it and move on. So, all reason exciting to reuse it.

[1:42:29] » Yeah. >> Wish you the best of luck. So,

[1:42:32] » we'll move forward then. Um, any other questions from council?

[1:42:37] » Uh, does anyone in the public have questions to ask?

[1:42:40] » I just had one quick one. >> Come on up.

[1:42:45] » So, I did represent the landlord when we signed this lease. Um,

[1:42:50] is there is there not have is there not more of a or less of a pre precedent to

[1:42:56] have a second reading at the council meeting, first reading and second

[1:43:00] reading, and to do the drawings early? >> Do you guys normally have you never done

[1:43:03] the second reading? >> It's not that we've never done it. My my

[1:43:06] concern is that everything we do generally we need to give the notice to

[1:43:09] the public so they expect what what we're voting on, what we're talking

[1:43:12] about, which is why we can't bring up random topics and discuss them and just

[1:43:15] forget at a given time. Um, and so it sets that precedent that we could do

[1:43:20] something and then people get upset that like you did something without letting

[1:43:22] us know. I would have come and spoken. I would have objected. I would have

[1:43:25] brought something up. >> Whereas this, while we usually staff

[1:43:28] would not usually work with you until it's put forward,

[1:43:32] » we recognized this is going to go forward. So staff working with you now,

[1:43:35] I think puts us in the exact same spot at the end of the day. So

[1:43:38] » Gotcha. >> Yeah.

[1:43:39] » Yeah. When we when we signed the lease, we figured um and I actually remembered

[1:43:43] it at the end, but when we did the paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had

[1:43:47] a special use permit athletic for the whole building and it was specific to

[1:43:50] their use. So, >> I want them to get going as soon as

[1:43:54] possible. >> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this

[1:43:56] will end up that's why our question of if it's going to be 15 days, if it's

[1:43:59] going to take that long anyway, we'll approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's

[1:44:02] done. We're at the same spot. If that was not the case, I'd be much more

[1:44:05] willing to entertain at this point. So, >> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank

[1:44:09] you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?

[1:44:12] » You know, the only drawback is that I've been frequenting Paris Baguette ever

[1:44:17] since discovering this place. So, >> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You

[1:44:21] know, so >> thank you.

[1:44:24] » Thank you. All right. Anyone online? Questions, comments? All right. I will

[1:44:29] close the public hearing. All right. And then we'll have it the

[1:44:32] second reading on the 8th. Thank you very much.

[1:44:34] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:44:36] » Okay. Move on to item 16. Uh, surface transportation we will be

[1:44:41] blocked. I will have you read it. How about that?

[1:44:46] » Or do I? >> Yes, sir.

[1:44:48] » Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill

[1:44:53] 3072. If we can have the title right, please.

[1:44:56] » Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section 405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and

[1:45:02] additional requirements being part of the subdivision code of the city of

[1:45:05] Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of title 4, land use of the

[1:45:10] Alvet municipal code to allow for both residential and non-residential

[1:45:13] condominium plats and additional requirements. First reading and public

[1:45:17] hearing. >> All right, we'll open the public hearing

[1:45:19] on bill 3072 and presentation, please. >> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my

[1:45:24] name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director of planning and community development

[1:45:27] with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the

[1:45:31] site plan and illustrations all the pretty pictures uh and there we're

[1:45:35] looking to amend our subdivision code specifically the section referring to

[1:45:39] condominiums plats and additional requirements. The next slide will show

[1:45:42] the the specific section and the changes in that is to remove the references to

[1:45:46] multif family or anything residential. Uh what this does it gets us more

[1:45:51] consistent with the condominium act. You see there reference of chapter 448 the

[1:45:55] revised statutes of Missouri. They kind of say that we we really can't hold a uh

[1:46:00] a distinction in terms of condominiums whether they're residential or

[1:46:04] non-residential that they can be applied to buildings a building replace or the

[1:46:08] sale of the building uh and they're I'm hoping I address that correctly with and

[1:46:14] there and we're just getting our code more consistent with the state.

[1:46:17] » This is what most other cities in >> that is correct.

[1:46:20] » Correct. Okay. >> Does that also apply to like industrial

[1:46:23] or office space as well? Yeah. >> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium

[1:46:27] doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you learn something new every day.

[1:46:34] » Is there any uh with the word subdivision in there, does that does

[1:46:39] that word imply one thing or another? I'm not sure what a you know, a

[1:46:42] condominium as a building versus a condominium subdivision.

[1:46:48] » Condominium is a form of subdivision. And so I think when you go through

[1:46:50] chapter 405 and go through the the definition sections that's where that

[1:46:55] that term subdivision is refer representing both a process and then a

[1:47:00] product of that process too. I think that's what where the that you're trying

[1:47:04] to address >> feels similar the word dwelling but you

[1:47:07] again I don't care I trust if this is what this

[1:47:09] » the code's going towards and it gets us clear of that that makes sense.

[1:47:14] » All right questions from the council. Anyone in the public online would like

[1:47:19] to speak to this? >> I think there are some items that record

[1:47:24] through our 2024 comprehensive plan update, the municipal code and zoning

[1:47:29] map uh the staff presentation and memorandum to the plan commission dated

[1:47:33] July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation and and that is part of your link uh in

[1:47:38] your staff memo, uh there are references to what other communities had uh in

[1:47:42] there, what they they were all doing, all of them being consistent. uh this

[1:47:46] public hearing notice because this is a public hearing and it was posted in the

[1:47:49] county in St. Louis County on August 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a

[1:47:54] list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't take that off uh there and then this

[1:47:58] presentation before the commission.

[1:48:02] Any other questions from council? >> All right. Anyone online?

[1:48:08] » Yep. We will close the public hearing and the second reading will be on

[1:48:12] September 8th. Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you.

[1:48:16] » All right, moving on to item 16, surface

[1:48:20] transportation block grant agreement with Missouri Highways and

[1:48:23] Transportation Commission for the North Price Phase One Grant Project.

[1:48:27] » Good evening, Mayor.

[1:48:31] » Good evening, mayor and council members. Again, Bruce McGregor, public works

[1:48:34] director. Um back in January uh work session, we discussed our second uh

[1:48:40] application for a surface transportation suballocated grant for North Price Road

[1:48:47] section one or phase one old bottom road to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100

[1:48:53] linear feet. We had applied the previous year and and didn't score high enough.

[1:48:58] So we made some strategic amendments to our application and uh basically

[1:49:03] offloaded some of the uh engineering work out of the grant as the city

[1:49:08] responsibility to try to meet a threshold to score more points which is

[1:49:13] one of the criteria used when the uh committee is reviewing the uh the grant

[1:49:18] applications. Uh so we found out a little bit earlier by looking at the

[1:49:23] agendas for the uh commission at East West Gateway that we were on the

[1:49:27] recommended list and then a couple weeks ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT

[1:49:33] from the local projects uh administrator that we were on the list for the uh

[1:49:39] meeting this week for award approval and that they recommended uh to hit the

[1:49:45] ground running that we present our uh the agreement to council for a

[1:49:48] pre-authorization uh to uh to uh execute the agreement

[1:49:54] should the uh board uh go ahead and do the expected uh you know decision this

[1:50:00] week. Uh be glad to answer any questions about the project, the timing, um next

[1:50:06] steps, what we've already completed, anything like that.

[1:50:11] » Excited about it. >> Yeah.

[1:50:12] » Yeah. >> Good snooping.

[1:50:15] » Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since Amron had been so busy there, we've

[1:50:20] received notice for them that they've done all of the energizing work on the

[1:50:25] circuits, uh, they may be coming back into town over the next few months,

[1:50:30] removing some obsolete cable uh, from the runs, but everything is in service

[1:50:35] uh, for that uh, load balancing or load relief project uh, for the distribution

[1:50:41] in University City and Leoo uh, just since it's in that same area that that

[1:50:45] project is done. Uh there >> so if we were to get final approval for

[1:50:50] this, I think this is question in everyone's mind. When would this project

[1:50:54] be realistically done? >> Well, so that's a a very fair question.

[1:50:59] What we have done uh last year uh we had committed to doing the survey. Uh this

[1:51:05] year what we had began we began in last budget year which is in the spring was

[1:51:09] the design work. Uh our intent is to have our what what they call an RE

[1:51:16] request for environmental review. So that is a uh a submitt that goes to

[1:51:21] Jefferson City to basically clear any environmental impacts we have and that

[1:51:26] might be more than just like hazardous materials but like native people or some

[1:51:31] other social economic uh impacts uh along with uh ecology as well. You know

[1:51:37] are we displacing any bats? The biggest unknown we have is rightaway

[1:51:42] acquisition. So, we have a 40-way rightway width. We want to maximize our

[1:51:48] existing condition of two sidewalks, right? One on either side. Uh we want to

[1:51:53] have a safe roadway for motorists and for cyclists. And we still want to have

[1:51:59] that appearance that's, you know, I think feels softer to us, which is a

[1:52:02] tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and relocate utilities and and other things,

[1:52:08] we need at minimum a temporary construction easement for grading uh

[1:52:14] from probably all of the uh property owners along the alignment. Okay. So um

[1:52:22] once we start through this process and get the rear submitted, we'll be

[1:52:26] planning public meetings. Um we'll be getting the word out, maybe going

[1:52:31] doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around with a vest with the engineer and we're

[1:52:35] looking at conditions, you know, interested parties come out. So many

[1:52:39] folks are quite excited about it. But, you know, once you start talking about

[1:52:43] changing, you know, the side of your house, people, you know, can start to

[1:52:47] question things. So, um, we always hope that we don't get to condemnation. We've

[1:52:53] done it before. And on the old bottom project, I think we submitted the final

[1:52:58] court documents 2 or 3 days before our grant expired uh which was uh almost $2

[1:53:04] million for that project. So um we hope we never get there again uh on there. So

[1:53:11] that's our biggest announcement. So So the long story short, we would hope to

[1:53:16] be doing construction for the schedule in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be

[1:53:21] ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that our residents will be enthusiastic.

[1:53:26] We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll be able to start the negotiation sooner

[1:53:31] in the involvement and, you know, get everybody signed off on. So any type of

[1:53:36] um federal grant or grant run through MODOT requires the city to do a lot more

[1:53:43] um work and there are a lot more steps that need to be taken than if we were

[1:53:50] just doing a regular street project, right? And so that is why it requires a

[1:53:55] lot more time. Uh realistically, you know, I would tell people three to four

[1:53:59] years. Give yourself a little uh leeway because it's not just us that has to do

[1:54:04] the work. Um when we do rideway acquisition, we do

[1:54:10] all of that and then MDOT has to go through and approve all of that and we

[1:54:14] can't get started on the next step till we finish right away. And then plans,

[1:54:18] MDOT has to approve all of that. So there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot

[1:54:22] of work and then waiting on others and then doing a lot of work and waiting on

[1:54:26] others. So if you want to give um give your constituents kind of a realistic

[1:54:30] answer, 3 to four years. >> We have the same concerns of

[1:54:34] hypothetically a gas line that isn't marked where

[1:54:37] » Yeah. And and and one of the challenges is like what we ran into on the cost

[1:54:41] share project is the area team meets once a week. So and we aren't privy to

[1:54:47] the meeting. So they meet, they review, they ask a question. Well, then we have

[1:54:51] a week to respond and then they ask another question and then we have

[1:54:55] another week to respond. So, you know, it's not like we can make these

[1:54:59] decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so so that's exactly right. And and we have

[1:55:06] we follow and we do everything by the rules anyway, but we we have extreme

[1:55:11] oversight on rightway acquisition following what's called the Uniform Act.

[1:55:15] Okay. It is uh designed to protect the property owner, you know, and make sure

[1:55:20] that everything is done, everything is properly appraised, every opportunity is

[1:55:25] given for the the owner to review and sign off on, you know, without being

[1:55:30] coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good that I know we did the right thing. You

[1:55:34] know, we always appraise everything. We sometimes we get second opinions. We did

[1:55:38] that on the cost share project because we wanted to make sure it was such a big

[1:55:42] acquisition that we were doing the right thing and everything was being fair uh

[1:55:47] you know for oversight. >> So to answer your question are we going

[1:55:50] to find something unexpected? Yes. >> And it could be something positive

[1:55:55] unexpected. It might not be something positive. it. Who knows?

[1:55:59] » Um, >> one of the most positive that's ahead.

[1:56:02] » Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.

[1:56:08] Um, there will almost always be something unexpected.

[1:56:11] » Yeah. >> All right. Fun times.

[1:56:13] » All right. Any other questions? And anyone want to make

[1:56:18] » uh make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute an STBG agreement

[1:56:24] with the Missouri Transportation Commission for the North Price Road

[1:56:29] phase 1 project contingent upon final award approval.

[1:56:34] » Second. >> All right. Motion made second. Can we

[1:56:36] please pull the council? >> Council member Dragal.

[1:56:40] » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.

[1:56:41] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[1:56:43] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[1:56:45] » Yes. Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.

[1:56:46] » Motion has passed. >> Thank you very much.

[1:56:48] » Thank you very much. Good luck. >> Excited.

[1:56:51] » All right. Item 17, hearing from citizens part two. Does anyone in the

[1:56:56] audience or online wish to make a comment?

[1:57:02] » We're looking at one person. >> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move

[1:57:05] on to item 18, review and acceptance of minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections

[1:57:09] or notes to call out on the minutes? >> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to

[1:57:14] approve. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the

[1:57:17] council minutes from uh August 11th, 2026.

[1:57:20] » Second. >> All right. Could we please pull the

[1:57:22] council? >> Council member Juel,

[1:57:25] » yes. >> Council member Solomonov,

[1:57:27] » yes. >> Council member Clark,

[1:57:28] » yes. >> Chairman Prom Halman,

[1:57:30] » yes. >> Mayor Lewis,

[1:57:31] » yes. >> Motion has passed. All

[1:57:33] » right. Thank you. We'll move on to item 19, city attorney's report.

[1:57:36] » No report this evening. >> All right. But we do have a close

[1:57:39] session. >> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on

[1:57:42] to item 20, close session. So, can I please get a motion to go into close

[1:57:46] session? >> Like to make a motion go into close

[1:57:48] session pursuant to the revised statutes of the state of Missouri. Discuss

[1:57:54] client, excuse me, attorney client privileges, communications pursuant to

[1:57:58] section 610.021 and real for and real estate matters

[1:58:04] pursuant to section 610.0212.

[1:58:10] » All right. All right. Do I hear a second?

[1:58:11] » Second. >> Please pull the council.

[1:58:15] » Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is this is the wrong one. Council member

[1:58:21] Duel. >> Yes.

[1:58:22] » Council member Solomon. >> Yes.

[1:58:23] » Council member Clark. >> Yes.

[1:58:25] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.

[1:58:27] » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes. All right. We will now close this

[1:58:30] regular session and move into executive floor session.

[1:58:36] » All right. We'll call the we'll close the executive session and call the

[1:58:39] regular session back to order. Um no major decisions were made uh at this

[1:58:45] point. Um >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn

[1:58:48] » and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at 9:45 p.m. Thank you.

August 25, 2026 City Council

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