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I will call to order the Ottawa City
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Commission meeting for Wednesday, June
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3rd, 2026. May I have roll call, please?
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>> Mayor Clayton.
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>> Present.
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>> Mayor pro tem Crawley.
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>> Present.
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>> Commissioner Allen.
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>> Present.
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>> Commissioner Skidmore.
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>> Present.
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>> And Commissioner Van Laeden.
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>> Present.
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>> We are all present and accounted for.
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Um, want to welcome everyone here in the
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audience and out in the hallway, as well
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as those watching online. We'll do the
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Pledge of Allegiance, followed by the
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invocation by Commissioner Skidmore.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America,
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and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation, under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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>> Let's pray.
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Father in heaven, we give you thanks for
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this gathering. We thank you for this
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beautiful city hall you've given to us.
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And Lord, for this beautiful city, as
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well. We think of all the city employees
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and the staff. We're just thankful from
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top to bottom for every single one of
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them, and just ask for you to bless them
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and their families each and every day.
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And Lord, as we look over the agenda
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today and the and items on this, we just
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ask for your direction and guidance as
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we make these decisions to bring honor
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and glory to you. All these things we
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pray in Christ's name. Amen.
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>> Amen.
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» Thank you, Commissioner Skidmore.
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That'll take us to item six, public
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comments.
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>> We have 12 registered.
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Perfect. Our first one is Susan Hughes.
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» Welcome, Susan. Please state your name
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and where you live. Thank you.
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>> Uh, I'm Susan Hughes. I live at 1201
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South Ash.
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Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners.
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I know this is a very important, big
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decision, what to do about the state of
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center.
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Um,
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a wise man takes counsel from many wise
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people. A lot of these people that are
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opposing this data center
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are intelligent, well-informed,
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well-educated on this issue. So, it's
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wise to listen to them.
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One thing is really a problem is it
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seems like we're not being told what's
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going on. There's no transparency.
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I know the city spent a lot of money on
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proximity park, and then nobody wanted
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it.
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So, some data center comes in and offers
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you some money and you grab it.
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At the time, I know they were told said
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it they were going to use solar panels
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to power it.
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And then the deal fell through, and now
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this group is going to use
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uh diesel engines.
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We're jumping full steam ahead into
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this, and they're going to create steam.
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They're going to use 5 million gallons
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of water a day to create steam.
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We don't have that kind of water.
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We We can't use that.
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We don't have regulations to zone this,
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to regulate the noise,
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the um
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the chemicals that are being released
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from this, how much water they're using.
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We really need to take some time, create
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a moratorium. Sedgwick County did
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because they need to rewrite their
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regulations. We do not have adequate
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regulations for a project of this size.
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JF
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RFK Jr. said it these data centers have
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a horrendous risk to human life.
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This is a serious matter. We need to
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really give it some serious thought. I
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don't know how far you're in the
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process. I don't care if you lose
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whatever money they gave you.
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I think we need to save our environment.
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We need to save our community. We need
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to preserve our water. We need to quit
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poisoning people downstream with it. And
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the noise and vibrations, there's just
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too many serious things. We just really
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need to slow down,
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take some time, do some study, go visit
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some of these people that already have
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them.
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Look at some of the regulations that
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some of other cities are writing up.
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What do we need to do to protect your
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people?
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Don't protect the company that's doing
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it. Don't protect the lobbyist. Protect
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us that voted you in.
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You are our voice. If this is a
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democracy, we could vote today and it
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would be down. But we're not a
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democracy.
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We're a constitutional republic.
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So, we have to have you be our voice and
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take our best interest at heart. Nobody
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else's, just ours. Thank you.
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» Rebecca Schmoe.
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» Thank you. Um, first and foremost, I
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want to say thank you to the commission
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and to uh Mayor Clayton.
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You guys are here because you love our
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community and I appreciate each and
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every one of you.
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I am also here because I am your
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constituents, um, living at 1526 South
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Cedar
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and I am opposed to the data center.
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That being said, the real reason I'm
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here is because these are our shared
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constituents
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and in order for me to share their voice
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and their values whenever I'm in Topeka
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and having these same conversations at
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the state level,
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I have to know what their voice is.
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So, thank you guys for taking the
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opportunity to listen to our
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constituents so that I can also share
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their values. Thank you.
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>> Thank you, Rebecca.
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» We have Rachel Rhodes.
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» My name is Rachel Rhodes. I live at 3267
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Kingman Road with my husband and seven
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children.
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Uh we are 2 mi away from Proximity Park
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and um
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I am not necessarily opposed to building
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an industrial park there. I actually
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kind of like the idea of my husband
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having a 2-minute commute versus a
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45-minute commute, but um I have real
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concerns with using the area as a data center. Um one of the issues that I
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see is um I don't see it as a being a
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real source of jobs for Ottawans. Um
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I've heard 30 jobs and I don't know
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anybody
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that um
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has that type of job that's capable of
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running a data center or a natural gas
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energy plant. Um
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and I'm not here to complain because
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it's ugly and I don't want it in my
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neighborhood. Um I know a lot of people
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are opposed to these type of things
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because they just don't want to look at
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them and that is not the case for me.
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Sorry, I'm nervous. I don't talk to
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adults, I talk to children.
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Um
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Uh my main concern is the water usage um
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that I've heard that these data centers
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use. Um
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So, I took what our household uses and
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it is a large household
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um and divided that by what I hear data
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centers use and it comes up to something
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like 11,000 the usage equal to 11,000
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homes.
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And my question is where does
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where are we going to get that type of
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water? You guys have seen the Meramec
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every July how low it gets. Where
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where's that water going to come from
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and how is it going to be disposed of?
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What what type of um
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erosion is that going to cause in in the
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riverbed? Um dumping that much back into
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the river daily. I'm assuming if it
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comes in daily, it's going out daily.
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Um and what type of contaminants is that
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going to um dump into the ecosystem
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downstream? Um So, these are questions
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that I feel like need to be answered
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before
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um we can
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um be happy with proceeding with this
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type or any type of um industry
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industrial um business that wants to
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come to Proximity Park. Thank you.
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>> Thank you, Rachel.
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» Roxanne Mettenberg
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» Hello, my name is Roxanne Mettenberg. I
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live in the county on Nevada Road, uh
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zip code 66078.
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And what I want to say to you is, um
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when I was 20 years old, I was given
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some advice from an employer.
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He said to me, "The only people who
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don't make mistakes are in the
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graveyard."
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The important thing is to own your
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mistake
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and correct it as quickly as possible.
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That advice has served me well for 60
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years.
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Late in 2024, I think most of us had
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little notion of economic and
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environmental environmental implications
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surrounding
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hyperscale data center construction and
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operation.
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That label data center at that time did
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not bring up visions of massive
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resource-sucking industrial enterprises.
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We also did not have federal or state
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legislation that incentivized this kind
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of build-out.
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So, it is not surprising that a proposal
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in late 2024 with promises of big
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revenues to a community would fail to
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raise false flags or or red flags.
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But now in 2026, the reality on the
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ground is quite different
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than any of us may have perceived in
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2024.
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The resource utilization around energy
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and water is staggering.
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Kansas is a state that is prone to
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drought, some lasting several years. I
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have lived through them.
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That is the case. Water has and is
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historic has historically and is
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one of our greatest
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most fragile resources.
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The energy demand is likewise
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overwhelming.
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Even if electricity is generated by the
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data center AKA behind the meter,
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hyperscale facilities will inevitably
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drive up electrical rates as they
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compete for natural gas that is subject
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to the laws of supply and demand on the
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commodity market.
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And itself, natural gas, is a finite
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resource.
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The economic benefits and employment
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benefits of data centers are also
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elusive.
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Fortunately, due to the extensions
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requested by Lightfield, you all have
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the opportunity to reevaluate this
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project more thoroughly from sources
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independent from these developers.
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I ask all of you to read this
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comprehensive analysis
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from University of Michigan Department
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of Science, Technology, and Public
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Policy.
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This report documents the true costs and
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limited benefits surrounding this
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nationwide gold rush to hyperscale
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data center activity.
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Both the state and Everett, Kansas, and
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this city are stumbling into every
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mistake
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itemized in this report.
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So, we ask you to pause
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this effort, engage the public, and put
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in place very specific zoning
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ordinances targeted to the negative
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aspects of data center development
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before you continue to pursue this
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endeavor. We also ask that you eliminate
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>> Sorry.
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>> the tax incentive financial incentive as
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per recommendations.
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>> Thank you, Roxanne.
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» Jim Wonderly.
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>> Thank you.
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» I didn't prepare a speech or anything,
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but uh
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in my previous life I was a mechanical
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engineer and I know these systems can be
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put together with a very minimal water
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consumption,
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relative minimal,
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but the demand will have to be on you
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all to make sure the specs are there to
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reduce water consumption.
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They can put in
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closed-loop systems on the cooling,
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which is probably what's going to
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consume most of the water,
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and if that's not a closed water tower
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system, the the demands are going to be
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high, and that the your developer that
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you're dealing with is not going to want
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to do that.
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Because it's a lot more expensive than
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the conventional cooling system for
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these computers.
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So, you guys are going to have to put
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the feet to the fire to make sure they
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do what's
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best for us.
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The other part of it is the noise, and
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the noise levels can be horrendous.
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And same thing, noise can be attenuated
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based on building construction, but they
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have to put the technology into that construction in
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order to keep the noise contained.
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Cuz within a mile, it's going to be
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unbearable.
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And 5 mi it's going to be heard,
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but it can be avoided.
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So, I ask you to again, as previous
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speakers have said, stop, pause, make
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sure you get a
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engineer on board before you even sign
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the agreement to see what means you can
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go to the extreme to save water and to
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avoid noise. That's all I have. Thank
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you.
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>> Thank you, Jim.
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» Jan Coons?
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Hello, commissioners. My name is Jan
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Coons. I live at 3442 Rock Creek Road in
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Ottawa.
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I respectfully ask that you place a
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pause on allowing Lightfield Energy or
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any data center project to move forward
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in our community until additional
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research, public input, and careful
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evaluation can take place.
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Please listen to the concerns of the
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many local residents who call Ottawa and
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Franklin County home.
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We are deeply concerned about the
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enormous energy demands, strain on
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infrastructure, environmental impacts,
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noise pollution, significant water
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consumption, and the gradual loss of the
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rural character that makes our community
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so special.
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Once a project of this scale is
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approved, the impacts can be permanent.
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We are simply asking you to pause, fully
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evaluate the risks, and protect the
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people, land, and resources that have
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sustained this community long before
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outside corporations arrived with
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promises of economic development.
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More than 700 Franklin County residents
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have signed a petition opposing data
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centers in our county in 1 week.
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Their voices deserve to be heard and
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carefully considered.
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We have confidence that you will do what
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is best for Ottawa and future
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generations by thoughtfully
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reconsidering this proposal before
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moving forward. Thank you for your time,
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your service, and your commitment to our
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community.
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>> Thank you, Jan.
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» Chris Maze.
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I live here in Ottawa.
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On Locust.
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And um in the past I've talked about
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much of what has been talked to already,
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but I kind of wanted to hit home a
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little harder this time and speak to the
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codes that you already have, like
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14-101, which addresses stormwater
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pollution.
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Its purpose is preventing the discharge
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of contaminated stormwater runoff and
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illicit discharges within the city. It
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goes on to say that this also applies to
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pollution the water of the United
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States.
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It sets a precedent that both it and the
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city can be held accountable to. It goes
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on to say that this applies to the
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improper discharge
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of Sorry, I lost my place.
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Wastewater, petroleum products.
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Sorry.
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Uh petroleum products, cleaning
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products, hazardous waste.
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Um the code speaks to the termination of
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utility services even for this
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pollution.
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Um after notices of violation, fines,
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orders of abatement. It says city
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representatives can enter facilities, um
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and it's a lot It's unlawful to try to
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stop them.
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I ask at the very least that you make
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sure you apply those same standards that
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may apply to stormwater. I'm not sure if
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it directly applies to the data center
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or not, but a public statement saying
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that all of that will be
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applied to the data center as well would
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go a long way for me.
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Um
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but we also I mean you were also told
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about that University of Michigan
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report. Um and it says that tax breaks
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for data centers do not deliver the
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promised benefits such as high-paying
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jobs. They can reduce tax revenues. They
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shift burdens on the communities.
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Um it says their massive energy demands
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are prolonging the operation of fossil
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fuel plants and undermining green energy
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goals. It advises the mitigation of data
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centers environmental impacts with
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substantial or sustainability goals,
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laws like the German Energy Efficiency
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Act, requirements for green energy use,
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uh transparency through mandatory
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reporting.
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But I also ask you to just reconsider
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this project. I don't think it's fitting
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the values of this city. I think that
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would be much better applied proximity
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park to
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uh housing development,
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to small business development. Those are
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things that I think anybody in this
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community would applaud you for, love
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you for.
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Uh and this is a very controversial
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thing that's seeing a lot of opposition.
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The more people know about it, the more
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word gets out, the more opposition I'm
[17:25]
seeing even. It's surprising me. I mean,
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this community's working together across
[17:29]
party lines in ways that I never thought
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I'd see.
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So, it's been remarkable, it really has.
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So, and if you don't think that
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water pollution really applies to us,
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that's just not a real thing. I mean,
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there's reports by KDHE that will list
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pollutants that are already in the
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water. Now, I will grant you, not trying
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to lie to you here, that some of those
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can be naturally occurring, but they
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also cite potential industrial causes as
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well.
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So, it's not like it doesn't happen, it
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does happen, and it also doesn't get
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abated.
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It just continues.
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I mean, do we all want to go to going to
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the store to buy all our water and not
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drink out of the faucet? Cuz if this
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goes in, that's the first thing I'm
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going to do. I'm not going to trust the
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tap anymore.
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Thank you for your time. I think my
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time's up.
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>> Thank you, Chris.
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» Michael Lewis.
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» My name is Michael Lewis, Ottawa
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resident 433 South Poplar.
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Thank you, Mayor, Commissioners,
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everyone in attendance, those watching.
[18:38]
Last meeting, you approved an ordinance
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pertaining to dog control.
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Section two of that ordinance read, "To
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protect protect and promote the public
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health, safety, and general welfare of
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the citizens of the city of Ottawa."
[18:52]
Chronic bronchitis and emphysema,
[18:55]
heart disease, heart attacks, strokes,
[18:58]
asthma,
[18:59]
neurological effects,
[19:01]
cancer,
[19:02]
premature birth, low birth rate.
[19:05]
Those are just some of the increased
[19:07]
health risks associated with a natural
[19:08]
gas power plant.
[19:10]
And yet, air pollution is only one part
[19:12]
of the conversation.
[19:15]
We are being asked, well, rather told,
[19:18]
to accept the water demands of a massive
[19:20]
data center,
[19:21]
the health and environmental impacts
[19:23]
that come with it, and the uncertainty
[19:25]
of what these combined burdens will mean
[19:27]
for our community in the years ahead.
[19:30]
When the health of our families, the
[19:32]
quality of our air,
[19:34]
the security of our water are all on the
[19:35]
line,
[19:37]
caution is not obstruction, it's a
[19:38]
responsibility.
[19:41]
When is the last time you've seen this
[19:42]
room filled week after week after week?
[19:47]
Just look around. This is not politics,
[19:49]
it is community.
[19:51]
I urge this body simply to do what you
[19:53]
are supposed to do in your role every
[19:54]
day,
[19:55]
highlighted by section two of our new
[19:56]
dog ordinance,
[19:58]
protect and promote the public health,
[20:00]
safety, and general welfare
[20:02]
of the citizens of the city of Ottawa.
[20:04]
Thank you.
[20:06]
>> Thank you, Michael.
[20:11]
Rich Colson.
[20:15]
» Good evening. Rich Colson, 1610
[20:17]
Bluestem, Ottawa.
[20:18]
Um at the beginning of this meeting, we
[20:20]
all stood and we pledged allegiance to
[20:22]
the Republic. A republic is defined as a
[20:24]
form of government in which the power
[20:25]
belongs to a body of citizens entitled
[20:27]
to vote and is exercised by the leaders
[20:29]
and representatives of those people. You
[20:31]
are not
[20:32]
representing these people.
[20:35]
I think a recent Gallup poll
[20:38]
indicated that 71% of US citizens oppose
[20:41]
data centers.
[20:44]
This community, I think, is a pretty
[20:46]
good representation of the American
[20:48]
public as a whole.
[20:49]
So, I think you could probably
[20:50]
extrapolate that around 70% of the
[20:53]
Ottawa citizens would be against this.
[20:55]
But, instead, this project was initiated
[20:59]
and advanced in secret, behind closed
[21:01]
doors, with no public input. That is a
[21:04]
violation of the trust we have given you
[21:06]
by voting for you, and a violation of
[21:08]
your responsibility and duty of the
[21:11]
office that you hold.
[21:13]
Everyone has stood up here and has told
[21:14]
you of the the water pollution, air
[21:17]
pollution, all of the negative impacts
[21:19]
that this has on the community. My point
[21:21]
is that you have done wrong by the
[21:24]
citizens of Ottawa by permit by by
[21:26]
perpetuating this by bringing this up by
[21:28]
even broaching the subject without some
[21:30]
sort of a ballot or at least initial
[21:33]
input from the citizens of Ottawa. You
[21:35]
did none of that. You sat behind closed
[21:37]
doors and you voted for this. That is
[21:40]
not okay.
[21:41]
And it will be remembered come voting
[21:43]
time. Thank you.
[21:45]
>> Thank you, Eric.
[21:49]
» Sean Torres
[22:04]
» All right.
[22:05]
Hello. My name is Sean Xavier Torres. I
[22:08]
can go, right?
[22:09]
>> Good. Okay.
[22:09]
>> Name Sean Xavier Torres. I've been a
[22:11]
resident of Ottawa since 6th grade. I've
[22:13]
been working at KOFAB since I was 15
[22:15]
years old and I own my own house in
[22:16]
town.
[22:18]
Um I haven't been able to hear too much
[22:19]
of everyone what everyone's been saying,
[22:21]
so I'm not sure if anybody's talked
[22:22]
about actually drafting an ordinance to
[22:24]
uh redo the regulations on what a data
[22:26]
center is and actually defining what a
[22:28]
data center is.
[22:29]
>> Chris, can you pull the mic down? Uh
[22:31]
sorry, Sean.
[22:32]
>> Yeah, no, you're fine. Is that better?
[22:33]
>> That's Thank you.
[22:34]
>> All right.
[22:35]
>> Good deal. Uh so, I had a whole draft
[22:36]
ordinance that I sent all the uh city
[22:38]
commissioners via email a few days ago
[22:41]
um to look at and look over and see if
[22:42]
you guys can't make that work and turn
[22:44]
it into an ordinance.
[22:45]
But uh I did have it here to submit to
[22:48]
you all if you wanted to see the
[22:49]
paperwork uh for yourselves. Actually,
[22:51]
I'd like to submit it for uh public
[22:53]
record. I think it is, right? Good deal.
[22:55]
Uh anyway, uh it's a whole four-section
[22:58]
deal here talking about amending the
[22:59]
local zoning regulations to define,
[23:01]
categorize, and regulate data centers
[23:03]
based on the infrastructure demand and
[23:05]
operational scale.
[23:07]
I could go through all of this, but I'm
[23:09]
not. I'm just going to go talk about the
[23:10]
definitions that it talks about here
[23:12]
because I think that's really key in
[23:13]
regulating data centers.
[23:15]
Uh first of which is enterprise data
[23:17]
centers. These are localized facilities
[23:19]
designed, constructed, and operated
[23:20]
primarily for the internal data
[23:22]
processing and storage needs of a single
[23:24]
primary organization.
[23:26]
So, like if Microsoft were to move to
[23:27]
town and build their own data center.
[23:29]
Uh the next one's colocation, and this
[23:31]
is a a facility designed to provide
[23:34]
services to other smaller enterprises.
[23:37]
And then we have the ones that we're
[23:38]
talking about now, which are hyperscale
[23:40]
or AI, which uh you can read through
[23:43]
this and figure out all the uh specifics
[23:44]
here, but it says things like a total
[23:46]
cumulative electrical power demand
[23:47]
exceeding 50 MW, continuous power
[23:50]
consumption design rates exceeding
[23:51]
50,000 gallons per day, which I know has
[23:53]
recently been resolved. Uh the inclusion
[23:56]
of onsite dedicated electrical
[23:58]
substations or high voltage transmission
[24:00]
line upgrades, and aggregated backup
[24:03]
generation capacity utilizing more than
[24:05]
20 industrial diesel generators, and a
[24:08]
whole list of other things that talks
[24:10]
about here as to defining the
[24:12]
regulations and all the stuff here. I
[24:14]
don't really want to go through it all
[24:15]
in a public meeting setting, but like I
[24:17]
said, I will submit it to you all for
[24:19]
public record.
[24:20]
That's all I had today.
[24:21]
>> Thank you, Sean.
[24:22]
>> Thank you.
[24:27]
so much.
[24:30]
Okay, Scott Yergens.
[24:43]
» You You guys are pretty patient.
[24:47]
I'm Scott Yergens, 3332
[24:50]
Rock Creek Road.
[24:53]
My dad was a mayor. I think I told Zach
[24:57]
this
[24:59]
twice
[25:01]
on the city council then mayor two term.
[25:04]
Mexico, Missouri, a town about
[25:08]
3/4 the size of this town.
[25:12]
When I was about 12, I asked my dad why
[25:16]
people voted for him.
[25:19]
And I did been 13 and he said,
[25:23]
"I thought it was the black people." But
[25:26]
my dad, I'm pretty old, so he might have
[25:29]
said colored people. I don't remember.
[25:33]
And I asked him why and he said,
[25:37]
"I'll show you after dinner." So he came
[25:40]
home from his store. He owned a store in
[25:42]
Mexico.
[25:44]
And um
[25:47]
he said, "Let after dinner." He said,
[25:49]
"Let's get in the car and
[25:52]
uh
[25:53]
so he drove us to where it was a
[25:56]
segregated
[25:58]
community.
[26:00]
And he said, "After when we got there,
[26:03]
my brother said, 'Roll down your window
[26:05]
and tell me what you see and smell.'"
[26:08]
So it was kind of shacks with lights
[26:13]
penetrating through these vertical
[26:16]
slats.
[26:17]
And I asked my dad like, "What is that?"
[26:20]
And he said, "These people have
[26:22]
newspapers for insulation."
[26:25]
And he said, "What do you smell?" And I
[26:27]
said said,
[26:29]
"You're right." And he daddy said,
[26:33]
"You mean piss?" And I said, "Yeah,
[26:35]
that's what I smell."
[26:37]
And I asked him why and he said,
[26:39]
"There's no These people have
[26:41]
outhouses."
[26:43]
And they um
[26:45]
there's one guy
[26:47]
um Mr. Morris who owns most of this
[26:51]
these black houses.
[26:54]
And he said
[26:56]
these houses are grandfathered in
[27:01]
to the zoning code and it's a
[27:04]
I can't remember what my father said, a
[27:07]
competition between law
[27:09]
and what's right.
[27:11]
And um
[27:15]
So, and he said this is what results.
[27:18]
So,
[27:19]
it's an analogy. Proximity Park,
[27:23]
I think it should be zoned before this
[27:27]
Lightview comes here or any similar
[27:29]
entity.
[27:31]
The zoning
[27:32]
helps us prevent
[27:36]
what my dad showed me in Mexico,
[27:40]
Missouri when I was 12 or 13.
[27:43]
It's a city that smells like piss.
[27:47]
So, I appreciate your time. Thank you
[27:49]
very much.
[27:50]
>> Thank you.
[27:54]
» Brooke Sheets
[27:59]
I'm actually not Brooke Sheets. I'm
[28:00]
reading on her behalf, but before you
[28:02]
start the timer, I just want to make
[28:03]
sure the commissioners are aware that
[28:05]
the live stream is not working. I hope
[28:07]
that means we are recording, but just
[28:08]
not streaming.
[28:10]
>> Cuz we have some frustrated people who
[28:12]
thought they were going to be able to
[28:13]
watch it, but cannot watch it. So,
[28:15]
Okay, so I'm reading on behalf of um
[28:19]
Brooke Sheets. Um let me find my notes
[28:22]
for her. She lives at 1409 South Elm.
[28:25]
She's unable to be here tonight due to a
[28:27]
family emergency.
[28:29]
We all share the same air, the same
[28:30]
water source, and the same soil.
[28:33]
When hearing that a power plant would be
[28:34]
built directly outside our city to
[28:36]
accommodate a data center near homes
[28:38]
with farmland, I was concerned that the
[28:40]
zoning was not appropriate for this
[28:42]
use case or that surrounding areas would
[28:44]
be can affected by eminent domain.
[28:47]
But now I have even more concern in the
[28:49]
area of light pollution, air pollution,
[28:52]
and general disruptions to our health.
[28:54]
There are many third-party studies
[28:55]
pertaining to the impacts of data
[28:57]
centers.
[28:58]
Maybe you've heard of Data Center Alley
[29:00]
in Virginia.
[29:01]
It's been studied extensive extensively,
[29:03]
and these studies have shown many amp
[29:05]
impacts to the people of Virginia per a
[29:07]
subject matter expert
[29:09]
on the Virginia Data Center Belt.
[29:12]
Additionally, many groups have been
[29:13]
working to inform the public of the
[29:14]
risks associated with low-frequency
[29:17]
noise or LFN.
[29:19]
exposure has been associated with
[29:22]
negative physical and mental health
[29:23]
effects to children,
[29:25]
the elderly, and those who live within a
[29:26]
2.5-mile radius of constant long-term
[29:29]
exposure.
[29:31]
Anthropogenic noise, and if you don't
[29:33]
know what that multisyllabic word means,
[29:35]
it refers to unwanted excessive sound
[29:37]
generated by human activities such as
[29:39]
transportation, industrial processes,
[29:42]
and construction that negatively affect
[29:44]
human health and the environment.
[29:47]
This type of noise is distinct from
[29:48]
natural sounds, and it can disrupt
[29:51]
ecosystems and wildlife behaviors.
[29:54]
This noise from data centers can be
[29:55]
heard and or felt by humans and animals
[29:57]
from distances radiating for many more
[29:59]
miles.
[30:00]
The human autonomic nervous system is
[30:02]
subject to cardiovascular disease, high
[30:05]
blood pressure, sleep disorders,
[30:07]
migraines, anxiety, and depression.
[30:10]
I'm sure all of us have experienced this
[30:12]
when we are under stress. Our body goes
[30:14]
haywire.
[30:16]
Is this what we want for our children
[30:17]
and our grandchildren's brain
[30:18]
development while they're at school, or
[30:20]
playing at a park, or participating in
[30:22]
after-school activities?
[30:24]
John Lever, a retired NASA analyst,
[30:27]
actually tracked the noise from a data
[30:29]
center in his own neighborhood as an
[30:31]
advocate for the public interest for the
[30:33]
Prince William Data Center Ordinance
[30:34]
Advisory Group, and he was himself a
[30:37]
member of the Prince William
[30:39]
Planning Commission.
[30:41]
He said, quote, "I'm finding that the
[30:42]
noise is far worse than anybody ever
[30:44]
figured it was going to be, end quote.
[30:47]
Is this possibility really what we want
[30:49]
in our community?
[30:50]
Thank you, and I urge you to take time
[30:52]
to reflect on the situation that we all
[30:53]
find ourselves in. And as others have
[30:56]
said, please pause.
[30:58]
When we know better, we do better. Thank
[31:00]
you.
[31:01]
>> Thank you, Corrine Linda.
[31:09]
Thank you all.
[31:10]
Uh we'll skip item seven, appointments,
[31:13]
proclamations, recognitions, and
[31:14]
nominations, as there are none.
[31:16]
That'll take us to item eight, consent
[31:18]
agenda, which which consists of minutes
[31:20]
from the May 20th, 2026 regular meeting,
[31:23]
minutes from the May 27th study session,
[31:25]
and agenda approval.
[31:27]
>> Motion to approve.
[31:28]
>> A motion, is there a second?
[31:29]
>> I'll second.
[31:30]
>> Motion and second, all in favor say I.
[31:32]
>> I.
[31:32]
>> All opposed?
[31:34]
Motion passes.
[31:36]
Item nine, declaration. At this time,
[31:38]
I'd like to give the commissioners a
[31:39]
chance to declare any conflict or
[31:40]
communication they might have they have
[31:43]
had that might influence their ability
[31:45]
to consider issues impartially.
[31:48]
Hearing none,
[31:50]
we'll skip item 10, unfinished business,
[31:52]
as there is none. Item 11A, conditional
[31:55]
use permit, 628 South Willow Street.
[31:58]
The planning commission recommends
[32:00]
approval of the conditional use permit
[32:02]
for 628 South Willow Street with the
[32:04]
condition that the sidewalk along South
[32:06]
Willow be completed in accordance with
[32:08]
city standards. And we have city planner
[32:10]
Welms.
[32:11]
Welcome.
[32:12]
>> Good evening, commission.
[32:14]
All right, so this conditional use is
[32:15]
for 628 South Willow Street.
[32:20]
And uh planning commission did recommend
[32:22]
approval of the conditional use with a
[32:25]
um condition.
[32:28]
A little bit of background, this lot is
[32:29]
a vacant 75 by 150 lot, which is about
[32:33]
11,250 square feet. It's currently
[32:35]
vacant and zoned R1.
[32:38]
Uh duplexes are allowed with approval of
[32:40]
a conditional use permit
[32:42]
uh provided that the lot area is greater
[32:44]
than 9,000 sq ft um and the duplex
[32:48]
will also require two parking spaces per
[32:51]
unit.
[32:52]
Uh here's a little bit of background.
[32:55]
The overview shows um it's north of 7th
[32:59]
Street, the second lot in off of Willow.
[33:04]
Ooh.
[33:06]
Here's currently what the street view
[33:08]
looks like.
[33:11]
Uh this is what the developer proposes
[33:14]
uh the duplex to look like. Uh he said
[33:16]
minus the
[33:18]
uh stone facade.
[33:20]
Um but a reminder that nothing is final
[33:23]
until a building permit uh has been
[33:25]
issued.
[33:27]
The findings, staff found that the
[33:29]
proposed conditional use is consistent
[33:31]
with the intent and purpose of the zone
[33:33]
in which it is located.
[33:34]
That the proposed duplex is compatible
[33:36]
to other land uses in the surrounding
[33:38]
neighborhood.
[33:39]
That the proposed duplex will not place
[33:41]
an undue burden on the existing
[33:42]
transportation, utility, and service
[33:44]
facilities in the area.
[33:46]
The proposed duplex is not necessary due
[33:48]
to changed or changing conditions.
[33:51]
The subject property has been vacant for
[33:53]
over 5 years.
[33:54]
The subject property is suitable for the
[33:56]
proposed use.
[33:58]
Staff ha- did recommend approval.
[34:01]
The proposed duplex is in conformance
[34:03]
with the future land use map and the
[34:04]
comprehensive plan duplex will not
[34:07]
adversely affect surrounding properties
[34:09]
so long as all standards are met.
[34:13]
And the planning commission recommended
[34:15]
approval of the condition use permit
[34:18]
with the condition that the sidewalk
[34:19]
along South Willow is completed in
[34:21]
accordance with the city standards.
[34:24]
And with that
[34:25]
I can answer any questions.
[34:28]
>> Thank you. And first of all, it's nice
[34:30]
to meet you. This is the first time
[34:32]
you've come before us and presented.
[34:34]
>> Yes. So is there is there anything
[34:35]
before we start asking questions that
[34:36]
you want to say about yourself?
[34:38]
>> I grew up in Topeka, went to K State.
[34:42]
My first job out of college was in
[34:45]
Laramie, Wyoming.
[34:46]
And now I'm here. And my last name is
[34:48]
pronounced Wilmes.
[34:49]
>> Oh, thank you. Wilmes.
[34:55]
» Mr. Wilmes did the planning commission have a
[34:59]
public hearing on this?
[35:01]
>> They did.
[35:01]
>> Was there any opposition?
[35:03]
>> There was there was a public comment.
[35:06]
And they commented on the parking.
[35:09]
Um
[35:10]
but I believe their comment was taken
[35:11]
care of after finding out that we would
[35:14]
require two parking spaces per unit.
[35:17]
Um
[35:18]
off-street.
[35:19]
>> No other opposition?
[35:21]
>> Thank you.
[35:22]
>> Is there parking allowed on both sides
[35:24]
of Willow? Is that correct?
[35:25]
>> I believe so, yes.
[35:26]
>> I just thought that was an issue or not
[35:28]
there, too. Well, I live next door to a
[35:29]
duplex and I see no problem with this
[35:31]
and then the way the construction
[35:33]
appears on what you're describing there
[35:35]
showed me to it'd be certainly be an
[35:37]
improvement even to the neighborhood, so
[35:38]
I think it's a great deal we have before
[35:40]
us.
[35:43]
» Yeah, I drove by it today. It looked to
[35:45]
me like there's plenty of room. I mean,
[35:46]
it's a big enough lot and there's not
[35:48]
Yeah, there's not a lot of cars on that
[35:50]
street anyway.
[35:54]
» I know they're concerned about kids
[35:56]
walking to school, but I don't think
[35:57]
that school would be used currently for
[36:00]
full-time students. I believe that's not
[36:02]
a
[36:03]
traditional grade school or any anymore.
[36:05]
So I wasn't too concerned about kids
[36:06]
walking by there, but I guess that's
[36:08]
been mitigated with regard to the two
[36:10]
parking places and so yeah.
[36:14]
» I'll go ahead and make the motion we
[36:15]
approve item 11A on our agenda.
[36:19]
>> We have a motion. Is there a second?
[36:20]
>> Second.
[36:22]
>> Motion and second. Any other discussions
[36:24]
or
[36:25]
questions?
[36:27]
May I have roll call, please?
[36:29]
>> How do you vote, Commissioner Skidmore?
[36:30]
>> Yes.
[36:31]
>> Commissioner Van Leyden?
[36:32]
>> Yes.
[36:33]
>> Commissioner Allen?
[36:34]
>> Yes.
[36:34]
>> Mayor pro tem Crowley?
[36:36]
>> Yes.
[36:37]
>> And May- Mayor Clayton?
[36:39]
>> I vote yes. Motion passes.
[36:41]
Thank you.
[36:43]
It was nice to meet you as well.
[36:46]
» That'll take us to item 11B. Consider
[36:49]
resolution setting a public hearing for
[36:51]
the condemnation of structures located
[36:53]
at 1641 South Main Street.
[36:56]
Staff will present a resolution setting
[36:58]
a public hearing to consider whether the
[37:00]
commercial structures at 1641 South Main
[37:03]
should be condemned and ordered repaired
[37:05]
or demolished. And we'll have property
[37:07]
improvement partner Hodges.
[37:11]
» Greetings.
[37:13]
I'm Keith Hodges. I work for the
[37:14]
community development department and for
[37:15]
you. Uh
[37:17]
We have two items that are very similar
[37:19]
on today's agenda. Both of them ask you
[37:22]
to consider setting a hearing date to uh
[37:26]
consider ordering a demolition or
[37:29]
repairs on two separate properties.
[37:31]
Uh this is the first. It's Knights Inn,
[37:33]
which I'm sure you're all familiar with.
[37:36]
At 17th and Main here in Ottawa, was
[37:38]
destroyed in the tornado.
[37:40]
Um
[37:42]
Pretty significant damage.
[37:47]
The The background on this is is pretty
[37:49]
simple. Severely damaged by the storm.
[37:52]
The property is at one of Ottawa's
[37:54]
busiest intersections, highly accessible
[37:56]
to the public, and highly visible.
[37:59]
Multiple buildings lost their roofs, as
[38:01]
you can see in the pictures.
[38:04]
Remained open to the weather, and so
[38:05]
they further deteriorate- deteriorated
[38:08]
since the uh storm.
[38:13]
Building materials have continued to
[38:14]
blow outside of the fencing that we
[38:16]
required them to put up to control for
[38:18]
access and to control for
[38:21]
um the damage spreading out into the
[38:23]
public.
[38:25]
Uh no repair or demolition permits have
[38:27]
been pulled.
[38:28]
More than 6 weeks have passed since the
[38:30]
tornado.
[38:32]
KDHE has required that an invest
[38:34]
asbestos inspection
[38:36]
be performed before any demolition
[38:37]
begins.
[38:39]
Now, the owner has been cooperative with
[38:41]
us and is actually supportive of this
[38:43]
process and hopes that it will help uh
[38:45]
apply pressure to its insurance carrier
[38:47]
to make a decision on the claim here. He
[38:50]
wants to demolish these buildings
[38:53]
uh and and uh and move on. But, uh the process has has not been as fast
[38:59]
as he had hoped. Our city attorney, uh
[39:02]
Mr. Finch, has contacted the carrier and
[39:06]
uh
[39:07]
sent a pretty uh compelling message
[39:10]
notifying them of our lien rights and uh
[39:13]
urging a prompt resolution to this.
[39:19]
The financial considerations.
[39:22]
Uh the owner is Mar Parvati LLC.
[39:26]
The property was appraised at $814,000
[39:29]
by the county.
[39:31]
Uh 453 of that has been the improvements
[39:34]
on the property and about 312,000 in
[39:36]
land land value.
[39:39]
Taxes are
[39:40]
uh not behind.
[39:42]
They have paid the the uh
[39:44]
the half that they needed to pay and owe
[39:46]
another 15,546
[39:49]
later on this year.
[39:51]
It is mortgaged for most of the
[39:53]
appraised value
[39:54]
at 728,200
[39:57]
uh to Oxar Bank.
[39:59]
It's insured by Lloyd's of London.
[40:01]
The claim is actually being processed by
[40:03]
a claims administrator and not by
[40:05]
Lloyd's themselves.
[40:08]
If the city decides to um
[40:11]
after the hearing Of course, this is not
[40:13]
what we're asking you to decide today.
[40:14]
We're just asking that you consider it
[40:16]
important enough to set a hearing date
[40:18]
to hear from all sides.
[40:22]
But if after the hearing the city
[40:24]
determines that repairs or demolition is the right route and so
[40:31]
orders that
[40:33]
if the property owner doesn't carry out
[40:36]
those orders then the city has the right
[40:38]
to contract for that and charge the
[40:41]
expenses to the property.
[40:44]
Then if they're not paid, tax lien on
[40:46]
the property is possible.
[40:49]
So
[40:52]
I wanted to briefly outline to you this
[40:54]
process according to article 14 of codes
[40:57]
which govern this process.
[40:59]
Uh
[41:00]
number one is where we're at today,
[41:01]
which is just setting a hearing date.
[41:04]
Then the uh our department would carry
[41:07]
out the proper notifications.
[41:09]
Which is why we ask for some time
[41:11]
between now and the hearing date to
[41:12]
carry that out according to the uh statutes.
[41:17]
And we would mail certified letters and
[41:19]
publish notifications in the newspaper.
[41:21]
And then when the hearing is held you
[41:24]
will hear from the property owners.
[41:26]
Uh and uh and from our department, our
[41:30]
recommendations.
[41:31]
And you'll have the opportunity to order
[41:34]
repairs or demolitions.
[41:37]
You have other opportunity other options
[41:38]
as well, but those are the two
[41:40]
significant options that you can that
[41:43]
you can order.
[41:44]
And you can issue a deadline to begin
[41:45]
work.
[41:48]
The community development department
[41:49]
within within monitor that process
[41:52]
to make sure that your orders are being
[41:53]
carried out.
[41:55]
And if the work is not started on time
[41:58]
or diligently pursued once it is begun
[42:02]
then the city has the option as I said
[42:04]
before to carry out the demolition
[42:06]
repairs with its own contractor.
[42:10]
If we pay for the repairs, the owner is
[42:12]
billed. If the owner doesn't pay, then
[42:14]
uh the city can place a tax lien on the
[42:15]
property.
[42:17]
Which does run with the land, so that if
[42:18]
there is a buyer,
[42:20]
that tax lien still holds.
[42:26]
So, our recommendation is that a public
[42:29]
hearing be set
[42:30]
no earlier than July 22nd,
[42:33]
and the resolution that we are
[42:34]
recommending does name July 22nd as the
[42:36]
date
[42:38]
to consider ordering ordering the repair
[42:40]
or demolition of the structures.
[42:43]
Your alternatives are to follow our
[42:45]
recommendation or deny the request
[42:48]
or defer
[42:51]
to a future agenda for continued
[42:54]
deliberation.
[42:57]
» Thank you.
[42:57]
>> Oh, I'm good. I have a question for you
[42:59]
on that. Um, so July 22nd being well
[43:03]
over a month out, say um the ball gets
[43:05]
rolling with the insurance company,
[43:07]
everything, we've already set the public
[43:09]
hearing date. Are we then able to cancel
[43:11]
that hearing legally since it's been
[43:13]
published or do you still have to have
[43:15]
the hearing to go through the motions or
[43:17]
how does that work?
[43:19]
>> If the commission decided to take the
[43:20]
public hearing off of its agenda, it
[43:22]
could do that.
[43:23]
>> Okay.
[43:25]
Thank you.
[43:26]
>> And thank you to you as well for
[43:28]
everything, and it's nice to meet you,
[43:29]
too. So, a lot of new faces tonight from
[43:31]
community development.
[43:32]
>> the city.
[43:33]
>> Yeah. Thank you. Um
[43:35]
is it all of the buildings? Just the
[43:38]
specific buildings that are most
[43:39]
extensively damaged? Do we Do we have an
[43:41]
assessment on what that condemnation
[43:43]
would look like? Is it
[43:45]
at this point is it Are we looking at
[43:46]
>> That's a great question. There are Let
[43:48]
me see if I can back up a little bit.
[43:50]
You can see Can you see all five
[43:53]
structures there? Yeah. Um if you look
[43:55]
at the top picture, you'll see on the
[43:57]
left there's a little office building.
[43:59]
>> Mhm.
[43:59]
>> And then it is the only building that
[44:02]
the owner feels, and uh some of our advisors agree with this is
[44:08]
the only building that might be
[44:09]
salvageable.
[44:11]
However, the insurance company is
[44:12]
arguing that the largest building that's
[44:14]
shaped like an L
[44:16]
is at least partially salvageable.
[44:18]
So, the insurance company at this point
[44:20]
has designated
[44:23]
two of the five buildings as as
[44:26]
uh
[44:28]
ready for demolition. That when they
[44:30]
settle they haven't settled yet. They
[44:32]
said when they when we settle, we're
[44:33]
pretty comfortable with ordering it with
[44:36]
uh paying for a demolition on these, but
[44:39]
uh two or three of the other buildings
[44:41]
they're still debating.
[44:43]
>> Thank you.
[44:43]
>> Um but to answer your question, the city
[44:45]
would have options. And you as the
[44:48]
governing body would be able to order
[44:49]
various options and it might be a
[44:52]
building-by-building decision or it
[44:53]
might be a whole property all at once.
[44:56]
>> Thank you.
[44:59]
And then do you have an idea you'd
[45:00]
mentioned we would set the time frame
[45:02]
from if we you know, deemed it condemned
[45:05]
to when it would have to be torn down or
[45:08]
you see meaningful work towards that.
[45:10]
Is there a typical time frame that that
[45:12]
looks like? Is that 60 days, 30 days,
[45:13]
90?
[45:14]
>> Finch has said typically 30 days and
[45:16]
then you would have the option of
[45:17]
extending deadlines. The code says a
[45:19]
reasonable amount of time to carry out
[45:21]
the work.
[45:24]
» Thank you.
[45:26]
>> Mr. Hodges, I know we're talking about
[45:29]
the Knights Inn right now, but while we
[45:30]
have this picture up, the front built
[45:32]
that the bottom picture,
[45:34]
um that's the McCarty Mechanical
[45:36]
Building or Mechanics Building.
[45:38]
Uh do we have any update on the
[45:39]
structure on the north side of it
[45:41]
because it's, you know, pretty much uh
[45:43]
demolished, too.
[45:44]
>> Um yes, we they are working on getting
[45:47]
that demolished. They don't have any
[45:49]
precise plans right now. Um I don't want
[45:51]
to divulge too much because of private
[45:53]
discussions, but they're they're in uh
[45:56]
um some discussions about the ownership
[45:57]
status of of the property and and that
[45:59]
may affect their plans. Okay. they've
[46:01]
been very cooperative as well
[46:04]
and and
[46:05]
I expect they're going to resolve that
[46:07]
problem maybe not as soon as we'd like,
[46:08]
but we do know that the structure itself
[46:10]
the rest of that structure
[46:13]
it doesn't appear to be an unsound
[46:15]
structure at this point.
[46:17]
>> Just the adjoining structure on the
[46:19]
north.
[46:19]
>> Right. And we did have them fence that
[46:21]
off. So, I don't know if you can even
[46:22]
see it in this picture, but we did have
[46:24]
them at least fence that off so it's
[46:26]
less of attraction for uh
[46:30]
>> People are breaking in
[46:32]
>> do things that I would have done when I
[46:33]
was young.
[46:34]
>> Thank you.
[46:37]
Um thank you. Along with that um
[46:40]
pending you know determination, would
[46:41]
that also include filling in the the
[46:43]
pool or would it be structure demolition
[46:46]
leaving the pool? Would that be included
[46:47]
in potential
[46:48]
>> That's a good question. I don't know the
[46:49]
answer to that.
[46:52]
I imagine you would have options on that
[46:53]
as well.
[46:57]
» Uh do you know does the owner you know
[46:59]
prefer to prefer to rebuild or or what their plans are? Have they
[47:03]
mentioned
[47:04]
>> The owners made it clear that they want
[47:05]
to demolish. They wanted to they want it
[47:08]
all gone.
[47:09]
>> Uh-huh.
[47:09]
>> And whether he wants to hang on to the
[47:11]
land and rebuild, he wasn't so clear on
[47:15]
that, but
[47:17]
my suspicion is he wants to take the
[47:18]
money and move on.
[47:26]
» Thank you for this and you said the
[47:27]
resolution that we'd be voting on is
[47:29]
July 22nd.
[47:30]
>> It was a public hearing.
[47:34]
» Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion that we
[47:36]
set a public hearing for the
[47:37]
condemnation of structures located at
[47:39]
1641 South Main for
[47:42]
July 22nd of 2026.
[47:45]
>> I'll second that.
[47:46]
>> We have a motion and a second. Any other
[47:48]
discussion?
[47:51]
>> Can I Can I just clarify that motion
[47:53]
that you're passing the resolution that
[47:55]
sets that date for that time?
[47:57]
Perfect. How do you vote, Commissioner
[47:58]
Skidmore?
[47:59]
>> Yes.
[48:00]
>> Commissioner Van Leyden?
[48:01]
>> Yes.
[48:02]
>> Commissioner Allen?
[48:03]
>> Yes.
[48:03]
>> Mayor Pro Tem Crowley?
[48:05]
>> Yes.
[48:05]
>> And Mayor Clayton?
[48:06]
>> I vote yes. Motion passes. Thank you.
[48:10]
That'll take us to item 11C.
[48:12]
Consider resolution setting a public
[48:14]
hearing for the condemnation of
[48:15]
structures located at 1017 South Ash
[48:18]
Street. Staff will present a resolution
[48:20]
setting a public hearing to consider
[48:22]
whether the structures at 1017 South Ash
[48:25]
should be condemned and ordered repaired
[48:27]
or demolished.
[48:30]
>> Thank you. Yeah, so here we have same
[48:33]
question, different property. Uh 1017
[48:36]
South Ash, close to the high school. I'm
[48:38]
uh some of you may be familiar with this
[48:40]
property. This is the view from uh Ash
[48:43]
Street
[48:44]
uh looking east toward the property.
[48:47]
There are two structures here, and I'll
[48:49]
refer to the one on the left as the
[48:51]
north structure, and the structure on
[48:53]
the south on the right as the south
[48:55]
structure. The structure on the right
[48:58]
um has has five units, and they face to
[49:01]
our right, so they don't face Ash
[49:03]
Street. Uh it's it's bigger than it
[49:05]
looks in that picture.
[49:07]
And once again, the staff recommends the
[49:08]
city commission set a public hearing
[49:11]
date. Again, we're not talking about
[49:13]
what to do today with the buildings, but
[49:14]
to just to decide to set a hearing
[49:18]
to order the repair or demolition of the
[49:20]
structures at 1017 South Ash.
[49:24]
The background on this, uh as I said,
[49:27]
there are two structures. The top
[49:28]
building is the north structure,
[49:30]
and the bottom building is the uh south
[49:33]
structure.
[49:34]
The north building has had two units. It
[49:37]
was fire damaged in October of last
[49:39]
year. It's currently unoccupied,
[49:42]
and uh it's it's beyond repair.
[49:46]
The south building has five units.
[49:50]
There was also a fire in this building
[49:51]
in 2022 and two units were burned.
[49:55]
One unit that was burned, the more
[49:57]
severely burned of the two,
[49:59]
remains gutted with charred joists. It's
[50:01]
unrepaired and unoccupied.
[50:04]
The other unit that was damaged appears
[50:07]
to be occupied.
[50:08]
The owner has on at least two
[50:11]
occasions
[50:12]
prevented denied access to city
[50:15]
inspection.
[50:18]
But there's no reason there's no
[50:20]
evidence in the system right now that it
[50:21]
has been repaired. Permits and such are
[50:24]
lacking.
[50:27]
Um
[50:29]
of the of the five units
[50:32]
three
[50:34]
uh
[50:34]
appear to be lived in. One by the owner
[50:37]
one in the fire-damaged unit, the
[50:39]
suspected fire-damaged unit, and one in
[50:41]
another unit. We were not We were
[50:43]
allowed to inspect the owner's unit. The
[50:47]
unoccupied fire-damaged unit, which
[50:49]
you'll see later in pictures right
[50:51]
there.
[50:52]
Um and but we were not allowed to
[50:54]
inspect either of the units occupied by
[50:56]
tenants.
[50:58]
Uh further
[51:00]
uh
[51:01]
possible correction is that there is a
[51:05]
attic space that the owner was trying to
[51:09]
repair and rent out as a sixth unit. But
[51:13]
um
[51:13]
he he was told during a recent
[51:15]
inspection that that he cannot do that.
[51:19]
Both structures have additional code
[51:21]
violations beyond the fire damage.
[51:26]
In addition to the structural code
[51:28]
violations, there are many code
[51:30]
violations on regarding the the general
[51:33]
management of the property and the
[51:35]
grounds.
[51:36]
In the past 9 years, 19 nuisance cases
[51:40]
uh show up in our system.
[51:42]
29 written notices were sent. No
[51:45]
responses are in our system from the
[51:47]
owner.
[51:49]
The code violations that persisted
[51:52]
several years ago persist today.
[51:55]
They include things like inoperable
[51:57]
vehicles on the grounds.
[52:00]
Construction materials that are just
[52:02]
piled up.
[52:04]
Trailers full of garbage, things like
[52:06]
that. Chapter 10 environment code
[52:08]
violations.
[52:11]
Furthermore,
[52:12]
um
[52:13]
there have been 175 police calls for
[52:16]
service in the last 10 years.
[52:20]
And two fires in the last 4 years.
[52:23]
These are things that you can take into
[52:25]
consideration beyond just the structural
[52:27]
considerations on this building.
[52:31]
Uh financial considerations.
[52:36]
It's owned by
[52:38]
the uh LLC 1017 South Ash LLC.
[52:41]
It was appraised at $84,000
[52:44]
uh for 2025.
[52:47]
Of that 84,000, 11,000
[52:50]
760 is the appraised value combined for
[52:54]
the two structures.
[52:56]
So, the vast majority of that appraised
[52:58]
value is land.
[53:00]
The taxes are up to date.
[53:03]
Uh total tax bill 1358 for the year. 653
[53:09]
is the balance still owed.
[53:12]
Uh one thing to consider, and this is
[53:14]
true for both properties, and this may
[53:16]
come into play should you hold a hearing
[53:18]
and and decide on on on on uh what
[53:21]
action to take, uh or it may not. Um it
[53:24]
one thing to note though is that
[53:27]
the code requires that if the repair
[53:28]
costs exceed 50% of the fair market
[53:31]
value of the structure, then the order
[53:34]
must be demolition and not repairs.
[53:38]
Uh once again, in In case if the owner
[53:40]
fails to act, the city can proceed with
[53:42]
its own demolition or repairs.
[53:44]
Um and if necessary, this steam the city
[53:47]
can place a tax lien on the property to
[53:48]
recover its costs.
[53:52]
» And just to go back to that slide, just
[53:53]
a quick question here. So, the uh
[53:55]
okay. So, if the 50% of fair market
[53:58]
value of both structures, we're not
[53:59]
talking about the $12,000 there. We're
[54:01]
talking fair market value of the
[54:04]
structures.
[54:05]
>> Not the property as a whole.
[54:07]
>> Mhm.
[54:07]
>> Yeah, but just but just that the 12,000
[54:09]
right there.
[54:09]
>> Right.
[54:10]
>> So, 50% would be about 6,000, right?
[54:13]
>> Well, repairs can
[54:13]
>> Combined.
[54:15]
>> Both properties.
[54:16]
>> Okay.
[54:16]
>> I think anybody's going to be able to
[54:17]
repair that for 6,000 or less. So, okay,
[54:20]
I get the
[54:21]
>> I'm no builder, but
[54:22]
>> I think Mr. Clayton would agree.
[54:24]
Make sure I asked him that. Thanks.
[54:29]
» So, once again, the legal considerations
[54:31]
here are the same as for Knights Inn,
[54:32]
but um
[54:33]
just for clarity's sake, we'll repeat
[54:35]
them. Uh the city commission sets a
[54:36]
public hearing date. That's what we're
[54:38]
asking for today.
[54:40]
The next thing that the Article 14
[54:43]
uh
[54:44]
requires is that we notify
[54:46]
anyone with an interest in the property.
[54:49]
Then the hearing is held.
[54:51]
Commission listens to the owner and
[54:53]
staff and the public.
[54:56]
And the commission then may
[54:58]
issue a resolution with its finding to
[55:01]
uh repair or demolish with a deadline to
[55:03]
begin work.
[55:05]
Then your community development
[55:06]
department would monitor the compliance
[55:08]
with that.
[55:10]
And if the work is not started on time
[55:12]
or if the work is not diligently
[55:13]
pursued,
[55:15]
city can carry out the orders uh
[55:17]
themselves.
[55:18]
And then once again, the city if
[55:20]
the city pays for the demolition or
[55:22]
repair costs,
[55:23]
the owner's billed, and if the owner
[55:25]
doesn't pay, tax lien can be filed on
[55:26]
the property.
[55:31]
As with before,
[55:33]
the recommendation is that the
[55:35]
commission set a public hearing date
[55:37]
uh
[55:38]
on or after July 22nd and again July
[55:40]
22nd is the hearing date in the
[55:42]
resolution that we suggest
[55:45]
uh
[55:46]
to consider ordering repair or
[55:47]
demolition of the structures at 1017
[55:49]
Ash.
[55:50]
The alternatives are to deny the request
[55:53]
or to defer to a future agenda date.
[56:03]
» Thank you. Do you know
[56:04]
with these being potentially rentals
[56:07]
is there any process from today when we
[56:09]
if we if we do set the public hearing
[56:12]
date to notify the tenants
[56:14]
that there is a possibility that they
[56:17]
may not have a place to live in 90 days
[56:19]
or if the owner's not telling the
[56:21]
tenants
[56:22]
that they would be notified now so they
[56:24]
can at least start a process?
[56:26]
>> Yes, sir. They're they're one of the
[56:27]
people who get notified by certified
[56:29]
mail and Mr. Finch has also advised us
[56:33]
to post it on their door and I will
[56:34]
personally knock on their doors and talk
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to them to make sure they understand.
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>> Thank you.
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» And that'll happen
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almost immediately after your vote today.
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>> Okay.
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Do we have any other questions or how do
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we like to proceed with item 11C?
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» Mr. Mayor
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I move that we approve item 11C on our
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agenda.
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>> We have a motion. Is there a second?
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>> Second.
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>> Motion and a second. Any other
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discussion?
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Hearing none, may I have roll call,
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please?
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>> How do you vote, Commissioner Skidmore?
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>> Yes.
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>> Commissioner Commissioner Van Leyden?
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>> Yes.
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>> Commissioner Allen?
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>> Yes.
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>> Mayor Pro Tem Crowley?
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>> Yes.
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>> And Mayor Clayton?
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>> I vote yes. Motion passes.
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Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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» That will take us to item 12, comments
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by our city manager.
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» Don't Don't take that as a sign of they don't
[58:03]
want to listen to you.
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>> Yeah, that's I'm a little disappointed.
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We're just getting to the good parts.
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» Uh honorable mayor and commission, uh
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water plant continued troubleshooting on
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the three basin and managed ongoing pool
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system issues. Uh
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pool has been a little foggy with the
[58:18]
rain, but you know, just want to let
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everyone know if there are safety issues
[58:23]
with that water, we will close down the
[58:24]
pool. We are testing it, but trying to
[58:27]
get it dialed in with the excess rain
[58:29]
here. Um water distribution crews
[58:32]
responded to a water main break,
[58:34]
completed sewer repairs, and continued
[58:36]
work on the 19th Street waterline
[58:38]
project. Uh production completed
[58:41]
cleaning and inspections on critical
[58:43]
cooling tower and uh fuel stool storage
[58:45]
infrastructure.
[58:49]
Over in public works, uh parks
[58:51]
department completed mowing and weed
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eating across parks, trails, and
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cemeteries. Uh streets department
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continued work on uh 10th Street
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improvements.
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Few pictures of those there.
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Just wanted to remind everyone, got
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quite a few events in Ottawa here on
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Saturday. I have the duck race down at
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City Park. That's from 10:00 a.m. to
[59:11]
1:00 p.m. Uh Treasures in Ottawa down at
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Lake Legacy Square from 9:00 a.m. to
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3:00 p.m.
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Uh city band concert at the OMA on
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Tuesday, June 9th. That's at 7:30.
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And then reminder of those uh two watch
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parties uh coming up this month for
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the upcoming World Cup.
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I just got a flyer here for Teen Safety
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Academy.
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Attendant of items for the June 10th
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meeting recognition of
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I won't try to say his name Raymond for
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completion of the power plant operator
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course KMEA Board of Directors
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auto representative Kansas Municipal Gas
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Agency appointment of a representative
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to that board and then proclamation
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recognizing June 19th, 2026 is June
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10th.
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Just reminder we have some open
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positions right now. So encourage folks
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to go to our website and apply for those
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vacancies.
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I'll take any questions.
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Thank you.
[1:00:24]
I don't know if
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>> Any questions for city manager or staff?
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Nope. I don't think so this week. Thank
[1:00:30]
you.
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That'll take us to item 13 comments by
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governing body Commissioner Van Leeton.
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I got no comment tonight.
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Commissioner Allen.
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>> I was just going to add to the busy down
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June 6th.
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I was trying to pull up the email. It
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looks like there is a Prairie Spirit
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Rail Trail 30th Anniversary celebration
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in Garnett at 9:30 to which of course
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goes through Ottawa. The trail does so
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let's go celebrate in Garnett.
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>> Yeah.
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>> That's all I have.
[1:01:00]
>> Thank you.
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Commissioner Skidmore.
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>> Well, I just wanted to commend DJ on
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your mowing again uh
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with all the rains we've had and you
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guys been able to sandwich those in
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between the rains. I don't know how you
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do it. I can't even do that on my small
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yard. You did it for the whole city. So
[1:01:15]
thank you for that. I played disc golf
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at
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Kansas Park this today. It was nicely
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all mowed. I can't blame the tall grass
[1:01:21]
for my scores, so it was well well
[1:01:23]
manicured, I must say. But, it looks
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nice and then again, compliments to you
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and your department. Kudos.
[1:01:29]
>> Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem Crawley.
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>> I have no comments.
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>> Um I will just say you stole my one
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about the Prairie Spirit Rail Trail. Um
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the event begins at 9:30. They're having
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a bike ride, run, walk, and a few other
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things down there in Garnett um for the
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30-year anniversary of the trail. Along
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with trails, this past weekend was the
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Unbound Gravel Race in Emporia. Um and I
[1:01:52]
know last week there were several folks
[1:01:53]
in town from that. I think they said
[1:01:55]
seven continents, 54 countries, and
[1:01:57]
every single state was in Emporia last
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week and
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um it was a muddy mess, it looked like.
[1:02:02]
Um I know some businesses here in town
[1:02:04]
were down there.
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Um so, that was just a a great thing for
[1:02:07]
the trail community as well.
[1:02:09]
Um
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I do want to welcome uh our Ottawa Main
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Street Association is hosting quarterly
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training for all of the Kansas directors
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who are in town this week.
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Um and then I did want to ask a question
[1:02:21]
of staff. I'm not sure who would be the
[1:02:22]
best person to direct to.
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Um I've heard there's a building
[1:02:26]
downtown that has had a roof collapsed
[1:02:28]
and we
[1:02:30]
and just wondered if there was any
[1:02:31]
updates about that, if there's any
[1:02:34]
concerns, anything with that.
[1:02:36]
>> Uh Mr. Mayor, I believe we'll have
[1:02:38]
something on the commission agenda for
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next week on that subject, so
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um probably similar to what you saw
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tonight, just go ahead and setting that
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public hearing and
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you know, again, when we're setting
[1:02:49]
these hearings, we're not really taking
[1:02:51]
action on the first time, so it allows
[1:02:53]
an opportunity for the owners to to
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visit, attend that public hearing, and kind of make the case of what the
[1:03:00]
plans are for repairs, so
[1:03:02]
>> Okay.
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>> obviously, if repair, temporary or
[1:03:04]
permanent, happens before then, we can
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always
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take that off the agenda if it's added,
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but that'll be up for your consideration
[1:03:10]
as early as next week.
[1:03:13]
>> Perfect.
[1:03:13]
>> Thank you.
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Um
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with no other comments,
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that'll take us to item
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14, announcements.
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June 10th commission meeting is here at
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4:00 p.m. in City Hall. June 17th
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commission meeting is here at 10:00 a.m.
[1:03:29]
in City Hall. And June 24th study
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session is here at 4:00 p.m. in City
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Hall.
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No other matters to come before the
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commission, we are adjourned.