[2:29] >>mayor jan harnik: I will now

[2:33] reconvene the city council

[2:37] successor agency meeting of

[2:46] thursday january 13, 2022.

[2:48] can we have roll call, please.

[2:56] >>clerk:

[3:07] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[3:11] present

[3:15] >>council member kathleen

[3:16] kelly: here

[3:18] >>council member gina nestande:

[3:20] here

[3:21] >>council member karina

[3:22] quintanilla: present

[3:23] >>mayor jan harnik: here.

[3:24] all present.

[3:26] thank you so much.

[3:29] >> we'll have the pledge of

[3:51] allegiance by staff.

[3:52] >>council member gina nestande:

[4:02] thank you.

[4:03] >> I pledge allegiance to the

[4:05] flag of the united states of

[4:06] america and to the republic for

[4:07] which it stands, one nation,

[4:08] under god, indivisible, with

[4:09] liberty and justice for all.

[4:26] >> thank you so much.

[4:36] we'll now have a little

[4:48] inspiration. I thought I would

[4:59] do a little refresher for us. I

[5:03] think everybody knows it but

[5:07] it's our mission statement and

[5:10] our palm desert community

[5:13] statement which is a great

[5:17] product from a wide -- the

[5:30] mission statement says the city

[5:37] of palm desert provides

[5:38] amenities and programs for the

[5:42] community. Our vision

[5:43] statement, palm desert is the

[5:47] heart of california's coachella

[5:50] valley. Palm desert's quality

[5:55] of life offers -- residents and

[6:05] visitors of all ages a wide

[6:16] array of educational and

[6:19] opportunities as well as arts

[6:30] and cultural activities and

[6:32] world class events in a

[6:36] uniquely and beautiful desert

[6:43] environment. This is a thriving

[7:02] safe and sustainable community

[7:13] that attracts innovative

[7:19] employers and synergistic

[7:21] educational partners.

[7:29] we rocked that in 2014 and it's

[7:40] still good.

[7:41] do we have a report from closed

[7:46] session?

[7:54] >> yes, we do. With respect to

[7:57] the agenda on the first item a

[8:02] 1 on family development, no

[8:10] action was taken.

[8:15] no reportable action nor

[8:19] direction was given.

[8:20] on the second item, with

[8:23] respect to the refuge that

[8:28] council unanimously authorized

[8:32] the purchase and sale agreement

[8:34] for the property described on

[8:37] the agenda and that agreement

[8:38] will be available to the public

[8:42] once it is finalized.

[8:46] that's all. We have. Thank

[8:59] you very much.

[9:00] >> thank you so much.

[9:02] >> we'll go mayor and council

[9:04] member reports and request for

[9:06] action. You can do them at

[9:13] once.

[9:22] so may I start please with

[9:24] council member kelly.

[9:28] >>council member kathleen kelly:

[9:35] thank you.

[9:38] I have nothing this evening for

[9:44] the general --

[9:52] >> I find that tremendously

[9:55] hard to believe but okay.

[9:59] council member nestande?

[10:02] >>council member gina nestande:

[10:07] mayor, thank you.

[10:09] I have nothing this evening to

[10:13] share as well. I appreciate

[10:18] your asking.

[10:20] >> okay.

[10:25] council member quintanilla?

[10:28] >>council member karina

[10:30] quintanilla: thank you mayor.

[10:36] I luckily have plenty of things

[10:38] to say so I will fill up that

[10:52] time.

[10:53] the mccallam education meeting.

[10:56] that was wonderful in hearing

[10:59] how many children have access

[11:01] to arts and social learning.

[11:04] they were able to reach 4500

[11:14] students and 165 classrooms and

[11:18] hearing the testimonials of

[11:20] teachers in the classroom was

[11:26] very rewarding.

[11:34] they

[11:40] have called to do. That is

[11:46] going on the 14. You can apply

[11:58] by january 19th. Art and public

[12:01] places will now be cultural

[12:03] arts committee. We were looking

[12:08] at the budget. And did convey

[12:16] to them where we stand with the

[12:18] discussion of the first

[12:19] committee. I want to report

[12:20] that we did have the

[12:23] resignation of a long standing

[12:26] member. And my deepest

[12:44] gratitude. She was on several

[12:47] commissions. I know she will be

[12:54] missed. If you are watching, I

[12:59] send lots of love and you will

[13:02] be missed.

[13:05] I have a request. At san pablo,

[13:08] when I go and visit and

[13:10] sometimes chat with the

[13:13] different merchants, I have

[13:14] seen that we need some sort of

[13:19] blinking light for pedestrians

[13:21] to cross from one end to the

[13:25] other. I have seen cars have a

[13:31] difficult time making a left

[13:35] turn. So I have seen drivers

[13:38] make a u-turn. So looking at

[13:43] the safety fact of that

[13:49] particular intersection of san

[13:52] pablo.

[13:53] I also want to have a request

[13:54] of staff to see if we can look

[14:00] at where the $25 million

[14:13] that is allocated for community

[14:17] resilience designated for

[14:18] agreement heat if we can

[14:22] capture those for palm desert

[14:27] given that we get some extreme

[14:34] heat. With that, I will pass

[14:39] that on, mayor.

[14:40] >>

[14:41] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

[14:43] I think we all owe gratitude to

[14:54] -- she's given a lot over the

[14:56] years.

[14:58] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[15:02] thank you, mayor.

[15:05] to my colleagues, I also made

[15:20] meetings and the desert willow

[15:26] management -- that took place

[15:30] earlier this week as many of

[15:37] us recall. We contract with

[15:40] sports for the management with

[15:46] desert willow. The 5-year term

[16:00] is up soon and the city put up

[16:05] the contract for request for

[16:10] proposal. And the city

[16:22] conducted interviews earlier

[16:24] this week and the process is

[16:26] moving forward.

[16:27] I have no request for action.

[16:31] thank you.

[16:32] >>

[16:40] >> great, thank you.

[16:43] I have a couple of comments I

[16:44] would like to make.

[16:48] first, I don't know if anybody

[16:53] else noticed but we have a

[16:55] tremendous up tick in graffiti

[16:57] throughout our city, and I

[17:00] think our public works

[17:01] department does a great job at

[17:06] immediately getting the

[17:10] graffiti abate mentment team

[17:18] out there but it is a

[17:21] significant increase. Please

[17:22] watch for that. And we do have

[17:28] the palm desert app that you

[17:35] can all have on your phone. The

[17:40] team will get out there and

[17:48] eradicate graffiti. We need to

[17:51] make that happen. So please

[17:56] paying attention to that and

[17:59] please help to be sure our city

[18:02] remains clean like it should be.

[18:18] the other thing I'm going to

[18:23] remind everybody is

[18:25] international holocaust

[18:26] remembrance day is thursday the

[18:31] 27.

[18:38] at 1:00.

[18:40] there will be a remembrance

[18:42] ceremony in our civic center

[18:48] park here in palm desert.

[19:05] and it's an important occasion

[19:08] and something we need to all

[19:11] think about.

[19:16] also, january 17th.

[19:20] martin luther king jr. So there

[19:22] is another day that is worth

[19:23] sitting and thinking about what

[19:26] it takes to be who we are as a

[19:31] nation.

[19:38] I also wanted to mention that

[19:42] at our lasts meeting which was

[19:45] december 16th, our then mayor

[19:50] kelly requested that we have a

[19:59] discussion on this agenda

[20:01] regarding the districting

[20:02] issue. I don't mean the census

[20:11] districting.

[20:19] but if we should put something

[20:23] on the ballot. Unfortunately

[20:29] with the planned vacations and

[20:34] covid surge, we didn't have

[20:35] enough time to go about that in

[20:37] a proper way. It will be on the

[20:45] agenda january 27th. I want to

[20:48] be sure for those who want to

[20:51] weigh in that we'll have that

[20:58] opportunity on january 27th. It

[21:02] will be on the agenda.

[21:04] so I apologize to council

[21:08] member kelly, who I know it was

[21:16] important to you, but between

[21:20] covid and the holidays, that's

[21:21] what happened. So we will get

[21:24] that back right on back on the

[21:28] agenda.

[21:37] I hope everybody had meaningful

[21:39] holidays and let's make 2022

[21:44] healthy and happy and dynamic.

[21:56] so now we'll go to non-agenda

[21:59] public comments.

[22:00] first I would like to give our

[22:03] clerk an opportunity to talk

[22:07] about how to participate.

[22:46] >>clerk: thank you. If you

[22:49] would like to participate in

[22:52] public comment, please raise

[22:57] your hand to speak.

[23:02] when you are called upon, press

[23:04] star 6 to unmute your line.

[23:11] please state your comments and

[23:12] state your name for the record.

[23:14] >>mayor jan harnik: I want to

[23:15] note this is an opportunity to

[23:19] address issues that are not on

[23:23] the agenda. If anybody would

[23:26] like to speak at this time.

[23:35] I do see a hand raised. I also

[23:37] want to make note that the

[23:40] brown act does not allow any of

[23:43] the bodies that are meeting

[23:47] today to respond to comments

[23:51] that are not on the agenda, but

[23:56] we will refer the matter to

[24:03] staff or record a

[24:07] recommendation.

[24:16] so our first speaker. We have

[24:20] joanne speer. Would you like to

[24:26] address the council?

[24:33] >>clerk: joanne speer, you have

[24:38] 3 minutes.

[24:39] public speaker: okay, thank

[24:41] you for taking my comments.

[24:53] and I'm wondering why we are

[24:55] spending so much time on

[24:58] redistricting for two districts

[25:01] when going to a five district

[25:11] 5th district system now

[25:13] provides local and fair

[25:16] representation for all parts of

[25:19] palm desert. And I do

[25:24] acknowledge that this is being

[25:38] put on the agenda for the next

[25:40] meeting. Thank you very much.

[25:45] >> thank you.

[25:52] is there anyone else? I see

[26:08] luis --

[26:32] public speaker: being this is

[26:35] your first public hearing and 2

[26:37] weeks from tonight is the

[26:40] second public hearing and we'll

[26:42] have our chance to review --

[27:28] and the third public hearing,

[27:32] the final draft map published

[27:34] on the 17, and we have the

[27:40] third.

[27:46] and fourth public hearing for

[27:50] the final map to approve that

[27:55] final map and the deadline for

[28:02] the final approval is april

[28:04] 17th and we go to november

[28:07] election.

[28:08] that concludes my presentation.

[28:10] it's fairly straight forward.

[28:14] it is dictated by state law.

[28:32] there was the question about

[28:38] this and so I'm happy to answer

[28:40] any questions about this

[28:41] process. I would love to take

[28:42] the input of both public and

[28:45] the council in this mapping

[28:46] process. Thank you very much

[28:50] for your time.

[28:58] >> thank you so much.

[29:03] okay. We'll have questions now.

[29:07] the first question is council

[29:10] member quintanilla.

[29:27] >> thank you, mayor.

[29:30] thank you for the presentation.

[29:32] I have questions in regards to

[29:35] the mapping software. Are there

[29:38] plans to do maybe a tutorial in

[29:44] advance. The last time it was

[29:46] not an easy process and I'm

[29:52] wondering if you can either

[29:54] share this, if it's optimized

[29:59] for the other systems and if

[30:01] the map is available. If we can

[30:07] get that answer.

[30:14] and my second question would be

[30:16] what is the proper for the

[30:20] paper maps because some prefer

[30:23] drawing their paper maps. Is

[30:28] that all -- also something that

[30:40] will be provided at the other

[30:44] meeting?

[30:45] >> yes. Thank you for the

[30:48] question. I have been involved

[30:56] in districting process and

[30:58] without software it can be very

[31:02] difficult to submit draft maps.

[31:13] so our mapping tool is very

[31:17] intuitive. There will be

[31:18] instructions given.

[31:23] as far as the tutorial goes, I

[31:25] will have to refer to the clerk

[31:29] for that, but having used it,

[31:32] it's very intuitive. I believe

[31:37] it's available both on a

[31:41] desktop or laptop as well as

[31:46] mobile. I will have to come

[31:47] back to confirm that forks. As

[31:51] far as paper maps, I will put

[31:57] that question to the clerk.

[32:27] >> the question was that some

[32:30] may not have access to that. Is

[32:34] there a possibility that we can

[32:47] have some of the presentations

[32:49] held at a school and available

[32:55] to residents. Thank you.

[33:06] >> from a legal perspective,

[33:09] there is nothing that holds the

[33:11] city from making any number of

[33:17] workshops at any location in

[33:19] the city.

[33:23] >> thank you.

[33:26] >> thank you.

[33:29] >> council member kelly?

[33:40] >> it looks like ms. Harnik has

[33:45] some information to share which

[33:50] is not why I raised my hand,

[33:58] but --

[34:00] >> yeah, that's correct.

[34:01] there was a couple of questions

[34:02] in there. I do want to note

[34:08] that the first work we'll go

[34:13] over the mapping tool and how

[34:14] to use that. That is one of the

[34:15] things that is going to be

[34:19] discussed there as

[34:20] demonstrating how to use that.

[34:31] it is available on a website.

[34:32] so I have that information

[34:34] there. I don't have the rest of

[34:37] the answers.

[34:38] >> all right. Thank you very

[34:41] much.

[34:52] >>council member kathleen

[34:54] kelly: thank you. I'm glad you

[34:57] moved back to this slide

[34:58] because that is what I wanted

[35:02] to talk about.

[35:05] this slide issays that at our

[35:14] next council meeting, we will

[35:20] review and consider tract maps

[35:31] and the written staff report as

[35:39] they schedule which says next

[35:49] to january 27th, held prior to

[35:57] the release of tract map.

[36:07] so I'm confused about what we

[36:11] will or will not have tract

[36:18] maps at next council meeting

[36:33] >> if I can again ask the

[36:39] clerk, I know that -- if our

[36:50] process is to review tract maps

[36:52] at the second public hearing,

[36:55] but I want to make sure I'm in

[37:00] line with staff's plan for this

[37:02] meeting. I will also ask the

[37:04] clerk to chime in there.

[37:08] >> the written staff report you

[37:09] have is consistent with the

[37:13] first timeline that was

[37:21] presented at city council.

[37:37] is that what we are to assume

[37:42] is the accurate timeline?

[37:48] >> you know, frankly --

[38:10] >> so we know that the public

[38:17] knows what to expect when. So

[38:29] what is accomplished and

[38:39] clarity. My way of thinking,

[38:40] this is for a second

[38:48] introductory session. So if we

[39:01] do the tract map, but as I

[39:02] said, we need to figure out how

[39:08] to make sure that our

[39:21] communications are clear.

[39:23] >> our intent and our practice

[39:28] is to have the draft maps

[39:35] available for review at the

[39:40] second public hearing.

[39:41] and that is the plan is to have

[39:46] it a draft map at the second

[39:53] public hearing.

[39:54] the public has the ability to

[39:57] submit draft maps all the way

[39:59] up to the third public hearing.

[40:11] there is a longer window to put

[40:16] together their draft maps to

[40:18] consider. But you will have a

[40:24] draft map that complies with

[40:30] all of the requirements, the

[40:33] settlement agreements and with

[40:36] the input we receive tonight

[40:41] and the intent there is to give

[40:47] both the council and the public

[40:54] enough time to mole over that

[40:58] draft map and make any tweaks

[41:07] with their own submitted draft

[41:10] maps to kind of again have more

[41:12] time for that part of the

[41:15] process as it really is the

[41:17] most important part of this

[41:22] process.

[41:23] >> thank you. That was clear.

[41:27] we just might need to scrub

[41:34] what is out -- to be sure it's

[41:41] consistent.

[41:45] >> thank you. Good catch.

[41:51] council member nestande?

[41:52] >>council member gina nestande:

[41:57] thank you, mayor.

[41:58] mr. Richardson, I just wanted

[42:01] to say our city of palm desert

[42:09] is 50,000 population, and doing

[42:18] like a redistricting of a big

[42:24] city like los angeles, almost

[42:28] seems to be an easier job to

[42:42] do. As palm desert, can we

[42:46] redraw these maps as some sort

[42:48] of priority. Should they be

[42:49] looking at the homes that are

[42:56] unique in golf courses, that

[42:59] are gated. We have 55 plus, we

[43:07] have 55 plus in manufactured

[43:13] home communities. So we are

[43:15] somewhat unique in a lot of

[43:16] work that you are doing in

[43:23] redistricting.

[43:25] so, it just seems so wrong and

[43:32] I would hope that we can give

[43:36] the public some more fine

[43:38] tuning tools to more prioritize

[43:40] this as they draw these maps.

[43:43] I'm not sure if you are aware

[43:45] of this or not, but the city of

[43:50] palm desert, north frank

[44:10] sinatra drive, is in the desert

[44:15] sanders school district. That

[44:16] is one that pops in my mind for

[44:19] community of interest. Thank

[44:24] you. Those of my comments.

[44:27] >> if I can respond briefly to

[44:29] that. I think you've nailed the

[44:32] primary issue on the head when

[44:35] it comes to redistricting.

[44:36] actually while we certainly

[44:42] have worked with bigger

[44:44] jurisdictions, most of our

[44:50] clients are small to mid-size

[44:53] cities just like palm desert. I

[44:58] serve the city attorney as well

[45:02] and just like palm desert in

[45:06] terms of being served by

[45:14] multiple school districts,

[45:15] having hoa's. Those are pretty

[45:20] distinct areas in the city.

[45:21] that is exactly what we want to

[45:25] look at.

[45:26] unfortunately the fair maps act

[45:28] which is the law that informs

[45:32] what we do isn't that specific

[45:40] with the criteria. So we know

[45:42] that the districts have to be

[45:48] geographically contiguous. It

[45:52] can't look like an octopus with

[45:57] tentacles.

[45:58] we know they have to be

[46:02] compact, right. But the bulk of

[46:05] our work is going to be exactly

[46:10] like you articulated. 55 plus

[46:12] communities that are clustered

[46:15] together and gated communities

[46:19] and hoa's and breaking up those

[46:26] types of communities up

[46:27] probably isn't consistent with

[46:29] the fair maps act.

[46:33] so the communities job and the

[46:39] council's job is to articulate

[46:44] where those boundaries are,

[46:45] what those communities are that

[46:48] you don't want to break up as

[46:51] you redraw the lines between

[46:54] these two districts.

[46:57] that school district line -- if

[47:11] there is specificity what you

[47:18] just articulated is exactly the

[47:21] rule that we want to be looking

[47:27] at. Do you have specific and

[47:34] distinct communities that

[47:38] shouldn't be separated.

[47:41] that's what the fair maps act

[47:44] wants us to look at when we are

[47:48] separating those into

[47:50] boundaries. Sometimes we have

[47:52] to separate them, but often you

[47:53] can keep them together because

[47:56] they should be together. I hope

[47:58] that answers the question.

[48:02] >> thank you, mr. Richardson.

[48:06] >> I think it would be helpful.

[48:19] although I'm not sure if it's

[48:29] going to help. That should be

[48:33] at the next meeting for sure.

[48:43] >> council member quintanilla?

[48:44] >>council member karina

[48:46] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

[48:47] from the school district, there

[48:49] is no possible way that it

[48:55] could be now away from the

[49:04] north district issue. Unless

[49:09] mr. Richardson, I'm mistaken

[49:12] but with we do get to the

[49:15] boundary districts to keep that

[49:16] in mind. Thank you.

[49:18] >> are there any other

[49:26] questions? Then we'll open

[49:59] the public hearing and ask if

[50:03] there are any comments anyone

[50:06] would like to make? I don't

[50:12] see any.

[50:14] I wonder if our clerk see's

[50:17] any?

[50:18] >> I'm not aware of any.

[50:19] >> I don't see any either.

[50:24] okay.

[50:25] then I will close the public

[50:29] hearing and we will have any

[50:48] discussion needed at this time

[51:02] from council? No?

[51:03] >> I do have the request or the

[51:13] desire so when we have some of

[51:16] these sections that the

[51:19] location is identified to give

[51:22] residents access to use

[51:28] computers so we are not worried

[51:31] about whether or not the access

[51:32] they have in their home is

[51:35] equitable for them to

[51:37] participate. This is democracy

[51:39] after all. I hope the city will

[51:42] keep that in mind and create

[51:45] some of these opportunities

[51:49] either the middle school or

[51:51] high school, a place that is

[51:56] centrally located, if not the

[51:59] library. Thank you.

[52:04] >> I see ms. Horning taking

[52:15] notes.

[52:33] I will entertain a motion at

[52:34] this time.

[52:35] >> one more comment. Basically

[52:40] as we'll draft the first map

[52:50] and that is similar and we have

[52:52] to add the population to

[52:56] district 1. The one thing to

[52:58] understand is at the lower end

[53:07] of the range and the middle end

[53:09] and the high end.

[53:14] >> thank you.

[53:15] I see a hand up.

[53:19] council member kelly, do you

[53:23] have a comment?

[53:28] >>council member kathleen

[53:29] kelly: yeah. The key objective

[53:36] should not be a set number.

[53:40] that would make it easy for

[53:42] you, but that's not really

[53:47] helpful.

[53:51] what I said in december, I will

[53:59] say again. This is established

[54:04] to come as close as possible to

[54:17] the district in palm desert. So

[54:20] the priority is to receive that

[54:27] identity. And might come at the

[54:33] low range and might come at the

[54:43] high end of range.

[54:53] >> council member quintanilla?

[54:54] >>council member karina

[54:55] quintanilla: I echo the

[54:56] sentiment that there is no

[55:02] magic number that should be our

[55:05] goal. I appreciate that you

[55:07] want some guidance and aiming

[55:10] for the middle would be a good

[55:13] guidance but because we can't

[55:18] say fix -- I think the

[55:24] importance of keeping the

[55:27] contiguous boundaries and

[55:28] communities of interest is only

[55:29] the priority and what makes

[55:34] sense for the community. When I

[55:44] was canvassing, I was in

[55:55] monterey and residents didn't

[55:58] know what was here.

[56:03] so I echo the previous mayor,

[56:06] council member and somewhere in

[56:07] the middle but that we can't

[56:10] necessarily give a number to

[56:13] start. I know that's not as

[56:15] helpful and you came for

[56:19] direction but I think somewhere

[56:27] in the middle, but we can't

[56:29] give an exact number.

[56:31] >> I think I heard the

[56:32] direction loud and clear. It's

[56:38] very very clear.

[56:40] >>>

[56:42] >>mayor jan harnik: are there

[56:44] any other questions or

[56:46] additional direction that might

[56:48] be helpful, mr. Richardson?

[56:52] >> I think I'm good. Thank you

[56:53] very much for your time.

[57:03] and your input. I look forward

[57:05] to have a new map to look at.

[57:10] >> thank you.

[57:11] we do need a motion.

[57:15] >> I make a motion to approve.

[57:17] mr. Richardson to come back

[57:18] with a map to approve it at his

[57:31] earliest timeframe.

[57:32] >> we have a motion and second.

[57:36] >> roll call, please.

[57:37] >> I just ask, is it important

[57:48] to follow of the last promotion

[57:50] that we receive the report and

[57:52] so forth. I didn't hear that in

[57:54] the motion. I don't know if

[57:57] it's legally required, mr.

[58:00] richardson or is the proposed

[58:02] motion is sufficient from a

[58:05] legal standpoint?

[58:06] >> yes, it is sufficient from a

[58:08] legal standpoint.

[58:10] >> thank you, sir. .

[58:12] >> okay, so we are moving the

[58:17] motion as presented, is that

[58:20] accurate, council member

[58:22] nestande?

[58:23] >> yes.

[58:24] >> thank you.

[58:25] >> thank you.

[58:28] >> roll call, please.

[58:30] >>clerk:

[58:31] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[58:34] aye.

[58:35] >>council member kathleen

[58:36] kelly: yes.

[58:37] >>council member gina nestande:

[58:39] yes.

[58:42] >>council member karina

[58:44] quintanilla: yes.

[58:45] >>mayor jan harnik: yes.

[58:47] >> motion passes unanimously.

[58:48] thank you.

[58:50] >> thank you so much.

[59:05] thank you very much mr.

[59:10] richardson.

[59:11] we are going back to where we

[59:18] were which is no. 15.

[59:24] >>15. Ordinance no. 1374:

[59:41] update palm desert municipal

[59:42] code sections relative to

[59:43] organicwaste recycling

[59:49] requirements to comply with

[59:50] senate bill 1383 (1st reading)

[59:56] (

[59:58] >> good evening, honorable

[59:59] mayor and council members. This

[1:00:05] is the municipal code to

[1:00:10] coincide with organic waste and

[1:00:23] I'm available for answering any

[1:00:26] questions if needed.

[1:00:27] >> great, thank you.

[1:00:29] I see a hand up.

[1:00:32] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[1:00:34] thank you, mayor. The report

[1:00:35] and it's also my understanding

[1:00:38] that it indicates that

[1:00:40] implementation is required by

[1:00:44] january 1, 2022, and of course

[1:00:50] we are maybe 12 days past that.

[1:00:57] so are we behind the eight

[1:01:14] ball, are we going to be

[1:01:18] arrested?

[1:01:19] >> no. We are not behind the

[1:01:22] eight ball and we are ahead of

[1:01:23] the game and in good graces

[1:01:28] with recycle at this time.

[1:01:29] >> I don't have much to add

[1:01:32] other than what amy presented.

[1:01:35] >> I feel better already. Thank

[1:01:42] you.

[1:01:43] >> okay.

[1:01:51] >> council member kelly,

[1:01:56] please.

[1:02:03] >> you are muted.

[1:02:04] >>council member kathleen

[1:02:11] kelly: in that vain, for the

[1:02:15] benefit of listening, what do

[1:02:16] we expect to be the actual

[1:02:21] implementation where people

[1:02:26] will be expected to change

[1:02:31] their practices and by which

[1:02:37] time we will equip them to do

[1:02:41] that.

[1:02:42] >> we have a prop 218 notice

[1:02:47] going out to palm desert

[1:02:50] residents. Beginning tomorrow

[1:02:56] and next week. That is a 45-day

[1:03:01] notice before the public

[1:03:02] hearing at the city council at

[1:03:04] the first council meeting in

[1:03:09] march.

[1:03:13] that is to bring the proposed

[1:03:19] amending agreement and upon

[1:03:22] city council approval of that

[1:03:34] agreement will bring for july

[1:03:39] 1st.

[1:03:40] >> any other questions or

[1:03:44] comments?

[1:03:55] >> that is quite an agreement.

[1:04:01] okay.

[1:04:09] if there are no questions nor

[1:04:17] comments, I will entertain a

[1:04:24] motion.

[1:04:28] >> I move.

[1:04:29] >> second.

[1:04:30] >>

[1:04:31] >> roll call, please.

[1:04:34] >>clerk: [roll call] motion

[1:04:47] passes unanimously.

[1:04:55] >> thank you very much. We'll

[1:05:00] go to 16.

[1:05:02] >>6. Resolution no. 2022-02:

[1:05:15] rescind resolution no. 2021-25

[1:05:16] and updating the homelessness

[1:05:23] taskforce bylaws; and appoint

[1:05:25] members to serve on the

[1:05:26] homelessness taskforce

[1:05:27] that is ms. Horning who is

[1:05:32] presenting.

[1:05:33] >> that's correct.

[1:05:34] good evening, mayor and

[1:05:36] council.

[1:05:37] I would like to start my

[1:05:39] presentation this evening by

[1:05:40] pointing out that there is this

[1:05:43] revised staff report with

[1:05:50] supplemental information this

[1:05:51] afternoon.

[1:05:55] the revised report is intended

[1:05:59] to clarify changes in the

[1:06:00] staff's recommendation and I

[1:06:02] will go over this in the

[1:06:07] presentation.

[1:06:08] bear with me as I'm going to

[1:06:12] share this on my screen.

[1:06:23] okay, everybody can see my

[1:06:24] presentation all right?

[1:06:30] >> yes.

[1:06:31] >> okay.

[1:06:33] >> I wonder if you can make

[1:06:38] that bigger.

[1:07:04] >> I think I shared the wrong

[1:07:08] screen. Here we go.

[1:07:13] all right.

[1:07:20] >> is that better?

[1:07:25] >> wonderful.

[1:07:33] >> okay.

[1:07:35] >> okay.

[1:07:36] the city council as you all

[1:07:38] know has been working onseting

[1:07:41] up a homelessness task force

[1:07:43] for a while now. Interviews for

[1:07:47] open positions were held in

[1:07:52] december and resulted in and

[1:08:03] council will appoint 8 members

[1:08:09] and two alternates.

[1:08:14] consist of two council members,

[1:08:28] the chair, two community

[1:08:39] members, business member,

[1:08:40] alternate.

[1:09:48] this also removes the question

[1:09:58] to include bylaws.

[1:10:05] which are incorporated in the

[1:10:08] staff report for reference and

[1:10:10] they are on your screen.

[1:10:13] the request is to wait until

[1:10:15] after the homeless task force

[1:10:17] is able to be established and

[1:10:20] be able to review the bylaws

[1:10:22] and all the changes will be

[1:10:24] brought back to council at the

[1:10:27] same time at a future date.

[1:10:41] at this time, I'm happy to

[1:10:43] answer any questions you may

[1:10:47] have.

[1:10:48] >> I see we have a few hands.

[1:10:53] we'll start with council member

[1:10:55] jonathan.

[1:10:56] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[1:10:59] thank you, mayor. Just very

[1:11:02] briefly ms. Horning and council

[1:11:05] member quintanilla, my

[1:11:10] recollection is that the is

[1:11:33] that it's consistent with the

[1:11:35] selection committee. Is that

[1:11:36] correct?

[1:11:38] >> yes.

[1:11:39] >>

[1:11:40] >>council member kathleen

[1:11:41] kelly: that's exactly what I

[1:11:43] wanted to confirm. So thank you

[1:11:46] chl. Are there any other

[1:12:11] questions or comments?

[1:12:14] >> I move.

[1:12:15] >> we have a motion and second.

[1:12:17] >>council member kathleen

[1:12:18] kelly: is that a motion to

[1:12:24] approve both the alternates

[1:12:25] that has been presented, if so,

[1:12:30] second.

[1:12:31] >> that is correct. Thank you.

[1:12:36] >> we have a motion and second.

[1:12:43] >> roll call, please.

[1:12:52] >>clerk: [roll call]

[1:12:53] >> motion passes 5-0.

[1:13:07] >> thank you so much.

[1:13:32] 17. Request to approve

[1:13:33] amendment no. 1 to contract no.

[1:13:34] c37040b with southstar

[1:13:40] engineering and consulting of

[1:13:42] riverside, california in an

[1:13:43] amount not to exceed $350,000

[1:13:54] for additional construction

[1:13:55] management services related to

[1:13:56] president£s plaza east and west

[1:14:04] parking lot improvements

[1:14:05] (project no. 758-14) (cc)

[1:14:07] is that mr. Fireside who is

[1:14:11] willing to present this? No.

[1:14:13] there is mr. Bauman.

[1:14:17] >> thank you, mayor and city

[1:14:23] council. Audrey prepared this

[1:14:25] report. Audrey, are you

[1:14:28] connected?

[1:14:29] >> I'm here.

[1:14:30] >> there she is.

[1:14:35] I'm here to back up audrey as

[1:14:44] needed.

[1:14:45] >> okay, I'm going to start

[1:14:46] this presentation up real

[1:14:49] quick. Can you see it?

[1:14:53] >> yes.

[1:15:02] >> today we are requesting

[1:15:09] additional budget for

[1:15:10] engineering to provide

[1:15:13] additional construction

[1:15:14] management services to complete

[1:15:17] the construction for the

[1:15:18] president plaza the parking

[1:15:25] renovation project.

[1:15:26] throughout construction project

[1:15:31] has experienced numerous

[1:15:32] challenges and resulted in

[1:15:35] additional work and overall

[1:15:37] expended construction schedule.

[1:15:38] for now, I want to start by

[1:15:52] summarizing some of the

[1:15:53] additional work items that have

[1:15:59] been required during

[1:16:00] construction. Here is just a

[1:16:11] few of the bigger examples that

[1:16:16] we have. As you probably all

[1:16:26] heard, our construction team

[1:16:29] has found to date 18 septic

[1:16:36] tanks throughout the project

[1:16:46] site. Many of which were

[1:16:51] properly abandoned and

[1:16:53] connected the affected

[1:16:55] businesses to the sewer system.

[1:16:57] we also had a lot of issues

[1:17:01] while grading with dealing with

[1:17:07] wet and dry utilities.

[1:17:18] dpw has had a lot of delays. So

[1:17:27] our contractor had to wait and

[1:17:36] work around the infrastructure

[1:17:37] around all the bright water

[1:17:40] lines that should have been

[1:17:42] vacated and in turn we had the

[1:17:47] lower a lot of those and we

[1:17:52] also had to replace a lot of

[1:17:56] wet and dry utilities because

[1:17:57] they were shallow and also a

[1:18:03] lot of them were sewer lines

[1:18:08] and private lines and aged

[1:18:10] and/or damaged during

[1:18:19] construction.

[1:18:20] as for dry utilities, we had

[1:18:36] spectrum and sce come out for

[1:18:38] the lower area that was graded.

[1:18:41] we also ran into several

[1:18:44] unmarked system lines that had

[1:18:46] to be lowered and they were in

[1:18:53] both in east and west lots.

[1:18:58] very expensive amount of work.

[1:19:01] in addition, our contractors

[1:19:04] refined the ada improvement

[1:19:05] design. We got a lot of

[1:19:10] comments from businesses that

[1:19:20] there weren't enough ada ramps

[1:19:22] coming from the parking lot. So

[1:19:24] we added some of those. Also we

[1:19:28] refined the larger ramps to the

[1:19:31] businesses that needed them so

[1:19:32] they really match well with the

[1:19:37] existing buildings. They were

[1:19:39] being applied to.

[1:19:44] due to the cwd delays, we also

[1:19:47] had some rework for the

[1:19:50] contractor. They had to leave

[1:19:56] out some segments of the and

[1:20:46] make connections so cwd had to

[1:20:51] redo some work that resulted in

[1:20:54] this -- for this type of work.

[1:21:10] we also chose to install

[1:21:14] temporary light towers

[1:21:21] throughout project site, as a

[1:21:31] safety measure until we can get

[1:21:34] the new lighting put in.

[1:21:39] the additional sidewalk redesign

[1:21:47] from the contractor included

[1:21:50] curb ramp designs to match the

[1:22:00] existing conditions and

[1:22:01] additional drainage

[1:22:05] improvements that work better

[1:22:07] with the lower profile curb

[1:22:11] design, and also some redesign

[1:22:13] around palm trees and sidewalks

[1:22:17] that are going to remain.

[1:22:28] this map, we included this. I

[1:22:29] know it's hard to see but I'm

[1:22:32] not going to spend a lot of

[1:22:34] time on it. This just shows all

[1:22:40] of those improvements

[1:22:45] throughout the project site. So

[1:22:46] this is the east lot and you

[1:22:49] will see this is a spectrum

[1:22:51] line I was talking about here.

[1:23:07] and it shows the improvements

[1:23:11] are not located in individual

[1:23:14] project site. We have run into

[1:23:17] issues all over every time we

[1:23:19] put a shovel in the ground.

[1:23:24] that was the east lot.

[1:23:30] this is the west lot and

[1:23:36] another large spectrum line

[1:23:37] that we found while we were

[1:23:42] digging and septic and all the

[1:23:51] sidewalks and utilities.

[1:23:52] this shows the severity of the

[1:23:55] additional work that's been

[1:24:03] completed.

[1:24:04] so that has ultimately extended

[1:24:06] the work schedule for

[1:24:08] construction. Right now I want

[1:24:09] to give you a quick update,

[1:24:19] where we are at.

[1:24:22] by the site, you will see the

[1:24:25] east lot was paved on the 23rd.

[1:24:28] most of the parking lot now

[1:24:31] open for parking. We do have

[1:24:33] some staging and the contractor

[1:24:36] is going to to continue

[1:24:39] installing other improvements

[1:24:40] in that lot and they plan to be

[1:24:45] done with most to the

[1:24:57] construction and that lot by

[1:25:00] the end of february. That is

[1:25:05] club landscaping, lighting,

[1:25:12] closures, the works.

[1:25:16] cwd is expected to complete

[1:25:18] their work next week and should

[1:25:21] have the sidewalks finished and

[1:25:24] should look really good. And

[1:25:29] now the west lot is scheduled

[1:25:33] for february 23rd and 24. The

[1:25:38] remaining lots will be closed

[1:25:40] to vehicle traffic until the

[1:25:42] lot is paved. The contractor is

[1:25:46] only required to

[1:25:53] have 150 spots on the lot and

[1:25:58] agreed to have spots open in

[1:25:59] the area as feasible as long as

[1:26:03] they are safe to provide as

[1:26:09] much parking as possible to the

[1:26:12] businesses. We still don't have

[1:26:20] a solid date to cwd's work

[1:26:23] schedule yet but they are

[1:26:31] hoping to be at the lot by the

[1:26:35] end of this month. That's where

[1:26:36] we stand now. I wanted to

[1:26:41] highlight the construction

[1:26:42] schedule. When we set up the

[1:26:46] contract, the contractor was

[1:26:47] getting 125 working days to

[1:26:49] complete the interim portion of

[1:26:55] the project.

[1:27:00] it's primarily getting the lots

[1:27:01] paid and that was planned for

[1:27:05] december 1, 2021. And then the

[1:27:10] completion date for the total

[1:27:14] project was january 29, 2022.

[1:27:26] based on the additional work,

[1:27:28] we have granted 40 extra

[1:27:31] working days for the

[1:27:35] contractor. So now the interim

[1:27:39] completion date is february 8,

[1:27:43] andth, and the total completion

[1:27:56] date is april 11th.

[1:27:59] the interim date is where the

[1:28:05] lots are primarily open,

[1:28:13] drivable, usable and the

[1:28:14] completion date in april will

[1:28:16] be for all the other

[1:28:22] improvements that would require

[1:28:29] -- once the lots are paved, we

[1:28:37] should see improvement.

[1:28:39] with that being said, we need

[1:28:48] the management and on-site

[1:28:59] during construction and extra

[1:29:05] management required for the

[1:29:09] construction for april.

[1:29:10] I'm happy to answer any

[1:29:12] questions if you have them.

[1:29:16] >> okay, we have hands up.

[1:29:28] council member kelly.

[1:29:33] >>council member kathleen

[1:29:35] kelly: yes. I would like to try

[1:29:41] to understand this correctly

[1:29:42] and members of the public who

[1:29:48] are listening.

[1:29:50] do I understand correctly, we

[1:29:58] have already approved the

[1:30:01] additional construction work

[1:30:28] that is necessary for the work

[1:30:33] and the contract for the entity

[1:30:43] that we contracted to over see

[1:30:46] that work.

[1:30:52] >> correct.

[1:30:53] we are still grading. There is

[1:30:56] still potential for some

[1:31:01] additional constraints.

[1:31:14] >> we have identified the

[1:31:17] additional work and received in

[1:31:25] the budget if we find any other

[1:31:32] issues. This is just for

[1:31:35] management on site to help

[1:31:39] watch over the contractor, help

[1:31:42] redesign the field, help

[1:31:47] resolve issues. Through the

[1:31:52] construction.

[1:31:55] >> thank you.

[1:31:57] >>> thank you.

[1:32:11] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[1:32:13] thank you.

[1:32:14] I have to ask again, the

[1:32:17] original cost estimate was $8.6

[1:32:22] million. Through no call of

[1:32:33] staff or our management team,

[1:32:37] you know the cost has

[1:32:43] skyrocketed almost $3 million

[1:32:48] from 8.6 to 11.5. And we've

[1:32:55] discovered these previously

[1:32:56] unknown conditions under the

[1:33:04] ground that has largely caused

[1:33:06] these increases and they keep

[1:33:08] rising from the deep.

[1:33:10] here is the question.

[1:33:16] are we -- do we have a sense

[1:33:24] whether there is control and

[1:33:28] whether there is more monsters

[1:33:29] down there?

[1:33:30] >> yes, we are in the last, the

[1:33:33] north side of the west lot is

[1:33:39] the west quadrant of the site

[1:33:40] that has to be graded. The

[1:33:45] other three -- that have

[1:33:53] previously been closed, we've

[1:33:57] already graded them out. They

[1:33:59] are a finished grade. So this

[1:34:04] week, we have identified

[1:34:12] utilities that the contractor

[1:34:13] has addressed and we have found

[1:34:16] additional cesspool, but as we

[1:34:23] get to that final grade, then

[1:34:27] we feel much more confident

[1:34:31] that we will not hit anymore

[1:34:35] surprises. The sooner we can

[1:34:41] close the ground,

[1:34:46] the more confident that we

[1:34:49] feel.

[1:34:50] >> thank you so much. All of

[1:34:54] your hard work. Very much

[1:34:57] appreciated.

[1:34:58] >> thank you.

[1:34:59] >> I have a question. By the

[1:35:01] way, that's why there are

[1:35:04] surprises because no one knows

[1:35:14] about it.

[1:35:15] do you have any idea of the age

[1:35:22] of the septic systems, the

[1:35:31] surprise septic systems? Do

[1:35:33] you have any idea of the age?

[1:35:34] >> I don't know the exact age,

[1:35:38] but they haven't been permitted

[1:35:39] in a very long time. I know the

[1:35:49] east lot was originally

[1:35:51] developed in 1970. I wouldn't

[1:35:54] be surprised if they were 40-50

[1:35:59] years old.

[1:36:00] >> I wanted to make the point

[1:36:03] that a lot of this system,

[1:36:08] before the city was

[1:36:11] incorporated. So we don't have,

[1:36:13] unfortunately, we don't have

[1:36:14] the plans for some of this. So

[1:36:19] I know on the level of

[1:36:29] frustration for staff and I

[1:36:30] know for the merchants is

[1:36:33] really difficult.

[1:36:34] at some point, we had to take

[1:36:36] this on. And we chose to do it

[1:36:39] and we are going to get it done

[1:36:40] and it will be an amazing

[1:36:45] project when it's finished and

[1:36:51] it has to be done.

[1:36:57] so thank you for doing what you

[1:37:04] are doing. And now cvwd has

[1:37:09] some problems with the chain

[1:37:12] and what next. Thanks for

[1:37:14] hanging in there and trying to

[1:37:20] keep people informed as you

[1:37:31] can. I know it's important and

[1:37:33] difficult for you and difficult

[1:37:35] for everybody involved. Thank

[1:37:36] you.

[1:37:37] >> I see a couple more hands

[1:37:40] up.

[1:37:41] council member kelly.

[1:37:48] >>council member kathleen

[1:37:50] kelly: if it's time, I would

[1:37:55] move to approve.

[1:38:06] council member nestande may

[1:38:07] have something to express

[1:38:10] first. I should move we should

[1:38:15] have one heck of a party but I

[1:38:17] will leave that to staff.

[1:38:23] >> we'll have nice lots of nice

[1:38:39] smooth pavement.

[1:38:40] >>council member gina nestande:

[1:38:42] yes, I will second the motion.

[1:38:49] I just wanted to add if at all

[1:38:52] possible because staff is not

[1:38:55] busy enough if we can come up

[1:39:01] with a plan b or c with the

[1:39:05] parking. Is what I'm hearing

[1:39:08] with businesses is that there

[1:39:11] is no place to park to frequent

[1:39:13] their business. I have been

[1:39:14] thinking and thinking about it

[1:39:17] and I know february 8th is

[1:39:20] almost here for the interim

[1:39:24] completion. But I'm just

[1:39:36] throwing that out there for

[1:39:39] staff.

[1:39:40] >> I thought it was very good.

[1:39:50] >> okay.

[1:39:51] >> do I give an overview?

[1:40:03] >> the partners with the

[1:40:08] development department, tried

[1:40:14] to secure temporary leases of

[1:40:16] two existing parking lots. The

[1:40:20] old union bank site being one

[1:40:26] of them.

[1:40:36] and we have been encouraging

[1:40:39] businesses and customers and

[1:40:44] business employees to use those

[1:40:51] lots particularly when we've

[1:40:54] had to do closures for bathing.

[1:41:01] in addition, working on

[1:41:04] temporary timed parking

[1:41:05] restrictions, for instance, on

[1:41:07] palm desert drive south to

[1:41:13] allow for greater customer

[1:41:27] access to the businesses and

[1:41:30] there are tweaks we have been

[1:41:33] making to the parking to add to

[1:41:36] the growing shifting and

[1:41:38] phasing of the parking. For

[1:41:42] instance, we are considering

[1:41:44] handicap parking for one of the

[1:41:51] businesses while they are for

[1:42:00] every department of ada parking

[1:42:03] was moved. Staff is working

[1:42:04] with the businesses to make

[1:42:08] these temporary arrangements so

[1:42:12] far.

[1:42:13] >> thank you, randy. I

[1:42:17] appreciate it.

[1:42:18] >>mayor jan harnik: we have a

[1:42:23] motion and second. Unless there

[1:42:25] is any other discussion, can we

[1:42:28] have a roll call vote, please.

[1:42:37] >>clerk: [roll call]

[1:42:38] >> motion passes unanimously.

[1:43:03] >> thank you so much.

[1:43:05] >> okay, we will move to 18.

[1:43:10] >>

[1:43:25] 18. Request to approve the

[1:43:26] annual council liaison

[1:43:27] assignments for calendar year

[1:43:28] 2022

[1:43:29] we have named on that. It's

[1:43:31] something that the mayor does

[1:43:33] and I will give a quick

[1:43:36] overview if that's okay with

[1:43:40] you.

[1:43:47] madam clerk?

[1:43:48] >> absolutely.

[1:43:49] >> okay.

[1:43:50] this is something we just

[1:43:51] review to make sure that the

[1:43:56] city is well represented and

[1:44:02] the council is asked to review

[1:44:05] and confirm their appointments.

[1:44:06] and we have gone through this

[1:44:12] process.

[1:44:14] are there any comments or

[1:44:22] questions regarding these

[1:44:23] appointments? I think we have

[1:44:30] strong representation in all of

[1:44:33] the entities that are on this

[1:44:36] matrix and I thank you for all

[1:44:38] the extra work you have done

[1:44:44] with this.

[1:44:51] can we have a motion, please.

[1:44:53] >> I motion to approve the

[1:44:55] committee assignments.

[1:44:57] >> thank you very much.

[1:44:58] is there a second.

[1:44:59] >> second.

[1:45:01] >>

[1:45:03] >> roll call, please.

[1:45:08] >>clerk: [roll call]

[1:45:30] motion passes 5-0.

[1:45:31] >> thank you so much.

[1:45:35] >>19. Request to appoint two

[1:45:47] (2) city councilmembers to the

[1:45:48] palm desert ihub advisory board

[1:45:54] >> good evening mayor and

[1:45:55] council. I'm the business

[1:45:58] advocate and also over see the

[1:46:03] agreement between the city and

[1:46:12] the coachella valley economic

[1:46:15] partnership for their oversight

[1:46:20] of the palm desert hub. Part of

[1:46:21] the agreement is the advisory

[1:46:23] committee that has two

[1:46:24] representatives from the city

[1:46:26] council as part of it as well

[1:46:33] as business members and

[1:46:40] representatives from cal state

[1:46:44] san bernardino palm desert. So

[1:46:45] with the staff report, staff is

[1:46:50] asking for two appointees for

[1:46:55] that.

[1:46:58] >> okay. Are there any

[1:47:02] questions regarding these

[1:47:03] appointments? I see a hand up.

[1:47:07] >>council member karina

[1:47:08] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

[1:47:11] my question is what is the

[1:47:14] projected time that these

[1:47:18] meetings are scheduled for the

[1:47:24] I-hub advisory?

[1:47:25] >> I believe the meetings will

[1:47:29] be more of an ad hoc schedule.

[1:47:33] at this point in time it will

[1:47:36] be through zoom. It will depend

[1:47:43] on -- this advisory board will

[1:47:46] be setting up the policies for

[1:47:53] the I-hub. Most of which is

[1:47:58] spelled out in the agreement

[1:48:03] between the city. So I don't

[1:48:05] anticipate a large period of

[1:48:09] time. There may be some changes

[1:48:13] necessary otherwise there would

[1:48:19] not be a regular standing

[1:48:21] committee.

[1:48:22] >> okay.

[1:48:24] may I offer at this point that

[1:48:28] I do represent the city on v

[1:48:47] cva. In my mind, I think it

[1:48:50] would be best to represent the

[1:48:54] city in this position.

[1:48:55] council member kelly?

[1:48:59] >>council member kathleen kelly:

[1:49:05] >> yes.

[1:49:20] I know that the assignment that

[1:49:22] we just approved included the

[1:49:29] mayor's continuing appointment

[1:49:39] as our representative to c

[1:49:50] back and will council members

[1:49:52] want to seek a second pointy or

[1:49:56] go in a different direction?

[1:50:02] >>

[1:50:13] >> I'm open to whatever the

[1:50:17] council decides.

[1:50:19] >> thank you.

[1:50:20] >>council member gina nestande:

[1:50:30] >>council member karina

[1:50:32] quintanilla: thank you. My

[1:50:35] question is the point of

[1:50:40] interests and the city

[1:50:41] understood and the academy. If

[1:50:43] the intention is to grow more

[1:50:48] of the student centered and may

[1:50:56] work and I feel I have a lot

[1:51:00] of experience and would serve

[1:51:03] as a representative should I be

[1:51:05] selected. Thank you.

[1:51:07] >> I do want to note and I saw

[1:51:13] your eyes light up at this

[1:51:20] agenda item that work with csd

[1:51:26] and the academy is what we call

[1:51:32] one future.

[1:51:37] >> it was actually the post

[1:51:42] secondary committee to see that

[1:51:44] I was on the committee.

[1:51:48] >> that's why and one --

[1:51:57] >> however, having said that, I

[1:52:01] wanted to add that clarity. I

[1:52:05] think it's a great idea if you

[1:52:07] would like to be on committee

[1:52:11] that would be great.

[1:52:13] council member nestande, what's

[1:52:16] your thought on that?

[1:52:17] >>council member gina nestande:

[1:52:19] I defer to you, mayor. It

[1:52:27] sounds like council member

[1:52:28] quintanilla has spoken. So I

[1:52:33] don't need to debate this

[1:52:35] issue. So congratulations.

[1:52:36] >> great. I do think we need a

[1:52:41] motion for that.

[1:52:47] please.

[1:52:52] >> so I move that our

[1:53:04] appointees be mayor harnik and

[1:53:07] council member quintanilla.

[1:53:08] >> I second.

[1:53:09] >> we have a motion and second.

[1:53:10] >> roll call, please.

[1:53:15] >>clerk: [roll call] motion

[1:53:41] passes unanimously.

[1:54:04] a ¿bicycle rack incentive

[1:54:05] program½ for private commercial

[1:54:06] properties

[1:54:10] >> who will be presenting?

[1:54:15] >> good evening mayor and

[1:54:19] council. Eric for development

[1:54:20] services. We had a request to

[1:54:23] initiate a bicycle rack

[1:54:39] incentive program. With the

[1:54:48] number of bicycle rack

[1:54:53] improvements on san pablo, we

[1:54:55] need places to also park the

[1:54:57] bicycles. The incentive of this

[1:55:00] program is the city would work

[1:55:06] with private property owners.

[1:55:12] the city would purchase bicycle

[1:55:16] racks and install them on-site

[1:55:19] with the property owner

[1:55:23] maintaining them for 10 years.

[1:55:24] tonight we are looking for

[1:55:27] direction because we are

[1:55:34] focused on areas around cv

[1:55:36] link. And would like to have

[1:55:40] council provide some feedback

[1:55:42] onseting a price limit on the

[1:55:50] bicycle racks.

[1:55:58] probably some consideration

[1:55:59] that you may want to go with a

[1:56:03] different aesthetic. We want to

[1:56:08] make sure that we

[1:56:22] are aware of this.

[1:56:25] I stand for questions and

[1:56:30] direction.

[1:56:31] >> we have a question from

[1:56:37] council member kelly.

[1:56:46] >>council member kathleen

[1:56:53] kelly: a couple of questions.

[1:57:04] first question is if we set up

[1:57:12] a ceiling for what this city is

[1:57:14] willing to do by way of

[1:57:17] incentive, could it also be a

[1:57:20] part of the program that the

[1:57:26] site owner would do something

[1:57:34] more as decor, more compatible

[1:57:39] with their --

[1:57:45] >> we would design the program

[1:57:48] that way.

[1:57:49] >> the second question is, I

[1:57:52] see that the staff report

[1:57:55] requests to us supply three

[1:57:57] bicycle rack options from the

[1:58:00] list attached to the report. I

[1:58:03] didn't come up with how many

[1:58:09] options there are. And we have

[1:58:23] 100.

[1:58:26] could it be possible to perhaps

[1:58:37] for staff to narrow the field

[1:58:42] space for issues of

[1:58:45] practicality and design to use

[1:58:46] palm desert to get some public

[1:58:48] input because I think we

[1:58:56] discovered what's around that

[1:58:57] part that questions around what

[1:59:05] people are going to see on a

[1:59:10] continuing basis, really to

[1:59:15] ignite public interest. So it's

[1:59:17] a great way to drive people to

[1:59:21] the palm desert site. Would

[1:59:25] that be a possible option?

[1:59:30] >> absolutely. We can do that

[1:59:38] and take a look at the number

[1:59:44] of bikes presented and get that

[1:59:50] communication to you.

[1:59:53] >> cv links will probably be a

[1:59:56] great resource also.

[2:00:00] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[2:00:06] thank you, mayor.

[2:00:07] so I do have some feedback for

[2:00:11] staff and I will hold back for

[2:00:13] the appropriate time as far as

[2:00:19] questions.

[2:00:21] number one, good evening to you

[2:00:25] sir. Thank you.

[2:00:29] I indicated a cost to about 400

[2:00:40] to $1,000. In my experience,

[2:00:42] installation is often equal to

[2:00:49] a greater cost fof finding it.

[2:00:56] is your cost estimate for the

[2:01:00] cost installation?

[2:01:02] >> that would be for the public

[2:01:08] works team.

[2:01:09] >> I'm super ethiopia hear that

[2:01:11] because that was the second

[2:01:13] question I had. Can we use our

[2:01:18] own staff to do the

[2:01:25] installation on private

[2:01:26] property and I think you are

[2:01:28] saying yes?

[2:01:29] >> yes, we would be drafting an

[2:01:34] agreement that requests to let

[2:01:38] us on to their property.

[2:01:47] >> my other question is whether

[2:01:49] or not staff has considered

[2:01:52] allowing the use of a parking

[2:01:59] space without the owner coming

[2:02:02] into violation of the zoning

[2:02:03] ordinance or development

[2:02:04] agreement or whatever

[2:02:06] restriction there are on the

[2:02:09] number of parking spaces. Has

[2:02:11] staff considered this program

[2:02:12] to be allowed as a parking

[2:02:14] space to a bike rack?

[2:02:19] >> we have appropriate some of

[2:02:34] our larger regional centers and

[2:02:38] we will look at that on a case

[2:02:42] by case basis. We want to work

[2:02:45] with the property owner for the

[2:02:48] location of the bicycle rack so

[2:02:51] they are easily identifiable

[2:02:53] and people are going to be

[2:02:56] using these bicycles. We can

[2:02:59] use this parking space as part

[2:03:02] of that.

[2:03:04] >> as part of that question,

[2:03:05] you want to keep in mind the

[2:03:08] process with the number of

[2:03:10] bicycle riders that don't have

[2:03:12] access to street parking. So

[2:03:15] they are limited in terms of

[2:03:21] where they can put this.

[2:03:27] >>

[2:03:28] >>council member karina

[2:03:29] quintanilla: thank you for

[2:03:31] your very comprehensive list of

[2:03:34] options here. In thinking of my

[2:03:36] time in working with higher

[2:03:40] education the university has

[2:03:44] the ones that are allowable for

[2:03:47] extra space. Is there some

[2:03:50] installation or something that

[2:03:52] was thrown into the list of

[2:03:55] options?

[2:03:56] >> it was a list of options.

[2:04:03] >>

[2:04:04] >>council member gina nestande:

[2:04:06] this might be more of a

[2:04:08] comment, but I will go for it.

[2:04:13] for the city link, this is

[2:04:15] perhaps something that our

[2:04:17] committee can look at our next

[2:04:19] meeting as well because looking

[2:04:24] at -- and maybe just the

[2:04:27] standard bike rack is the ideal

[2:04:31] situation that can hold the

[2:04:32] most bikes. I think we need to

[2:04:41] look at practicality to staff

[2:04:42] in my opinion. Thank you.

[2:04:46] >>mayor jan harnik: council

[2:04:57] member kelly?

[2:04:58] >>council member kathleen

[2:04:59] kelly: what is staff's

[2:05:00] recommendation?

[2:05:01] >> we don't have a

[2:05:03] recommendation. The cost of

[2:05:06] those will draw the program

[2:05:09] quicker. You have maximum

[2:05:12] amount to spend on this.

[2:05:16] >> thank you.

[2:05:20] >> council member?

[2:05:22] >> thank you, mayor.

[2:05:25] I have another question,

[2:05:28] something that is very

[2:05:35] minimalistic and functional and

[2:05:37] if someone wants to get a

[2:05:42] little fancier.

[2:05:43] >> I think we can set up the

[2:05:45] program that way.

[2:05:46] >> time for comments?

[2:05:54] >> due to inadequate needs,

[2:05:55] this is a great idea and I love

[2:05:58] it.

[2:06:00] I think that it occurs to me

[2:06:03] that this might lend itself to

[2:06:06] the subcommittee to work with

[2:06:07] staff to address those details

[2:06:11] and I would be happy and

[2:06:12] something like the icon edge or

[2:06:16] some of the other hedges that

[2:06:18] are just for a bike rack. Even

[2:06:22] the artistic ones are very

[2:06:24] sturdy. There is a lot of good

[2:06:28] options there and using

[2:06:30] something with the icon edge

[2:06:34] with an artistic manner gives

[2:06:36] the owner the option of

[2:06:44] installing with.

[2:06:45] I think this shouldn't be just

[2:06:50] the high demand areas because

[2:06:52] there are some areas that is

[2:06:57] part of the encouraging to go

[2:07:01] green these days.

[2:07:02] that covers my feedback for

[2:07:04] now. Thank you.

[2:07:07] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

[2:07:09] >>council member karina

[2:07:15] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

[2:07:16] the policy, is that something

[2:07:20] that could be added to the palm

[2:07:26] desert --

[2:07:27] >>council member kathleen

[2:07:30] kelly: let me take a stab at

[2:07:37] the motion to establish the

[2:07:47] subcommittee. As council member

[2:07:50] stated is using the reservation

[2:07:52] and motion to give the staff

[2:07:53] direction is yes, we love the

[2:08:03] idea, no. 2, is the city, that

[2:08:09] goes for both, and thirdly, to

[2:08:16] using the suggested and

[2:08:20] deferring the issue of the cap

[2:08:27] on subsidy.

[2:08:30] >> okay.

[2:08:32] >>mayor jan harnik: we have a

[2:08:34] motion and second. I'm going to

[2:08:37] add a few comments because I do

[2:08:41] also ride a bike. So let's ask

[2:08:45] those bicyclist who are out

[2:08:50] there and council member

[2:08:56] nestande and uc davis and they

[2:08:57] have bicyclist and the stands

[2:08:58] and repairs and of course I

[2:09:00] have pictures of all of them.

[2:09:13] >> roll call, please.

[2:09:19] >>clerk: [roll call]

[2:09:22] >> this passes unanimously.

[2:09:30] >> thank you.

[2:09:31] >> next.

[2:09:41] 21. Request for direction on

[2:09:42] the meeting format for

[2:09:43] committee, commission and

[2:09:45] council meetings (

[2:09:46] this is for the council if you

[2:09:48] would prefer to have virtual

[2:09:51] meetings during the pandemic.

[2:09:53] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[2:09:54] thank you. Yeah, I think

[2:09:57] staff's recommendation makes

[2:09:58] sense. I think this is a long

[2:10:00] time that we are in a surge. We

[2:10:08] should go to hybrid meetings

[2:10:10] once the council chamber has

[2:10:15] been completed and the acr and

[2:10:23] omicron and some other variant.

[2:10:25] >>council member gina nestande:

[2:10:26] I was just going to say is that

[2:10:30] I don't know if we can give

[2:10:33] that option to those that want

[2:10:43] to do that.

[2:10:44] >>council member karina

[2:10:48] quintanilla: that's what I

[2:10:50] have heard from other

[2:10:54] residents.

[2:10:55] >> some of the flexibility

[2:10:56] there. And the key thing is

[2:11:01] number one keeping people safe,

[2:11:07] no. 2, we have lived here for

[2:11:10] decades and we have the zoom

[2:11:11] format and we have to comply

[2:11:13] with one or the other. We can

[2:11:17] kind of modify wherever you are

[2:11:19] to zoom and that level of

[2:11:23] participation. So we are really

[2:11:29] rather constrained.

[2:11:32] >> does that answer your

[2:11:35] question?

[2:11:36] >> yes. It does. Thank you.

[2:11:39] >>mayor jan harnik: I think we

[2:11:41] always have standards put in

[2:11:44] place by the county or the

[2:11:49] state.

[2:11:52] >>

[2:11:53] >>council member karina

[2:11:55] quintanilla: with that, I will

[2:11:57] add my comment now.

[2:11:59] I think it's still the safest

[2:12:03] until the surge has dropped. Is

[2:12:07] there a threshold that staff

[2:12:09] has for this committee but I

[2:12:13] would be in favor to stay

[2:12:18] virtual to preserve public

[2:12:25] health.

[2:12:26] >> it can be virtual and in the

[2:12:30] conference room. So we have 25

[2:12:32] days away from the rooms to

[2:12:37] start to become available. We

[2:12:44] can reevaluate that climate.

[2:12:46] >>council member kathleen

[2:12:47] kelly: which was just clarified

[2:12:49] to keep our meetings virtual

[2:12:55] until we are concurrent with

[2:12:58] many of the comments that are

[2:13:00] made and our committees need

[2:13:05] clarity. We need that and

[2:13:10] staff's recommendation is very

[2:13:11] sound.

[2:13:12] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

[2:13:15] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[2:13:20] thank you, mayor.

[2:13:21] that direction being to

[2:13:23] continue with virtual meetings

[2:13:26] for now with the target of

[2:13:32] converting.

[2:13:33] >> okay.

[2:13:37] >>mayor jan harnik: it's

[2:13:39] important to remain flexible

[2:13:40] because who knows what the next

[2:13:44] variant might be.

[2:13:45] we have a motion and second.

[2:13:49] >> roll call, please.

[2:13:56] >>clerk: [roll call]

[2:14:00] >> we are going back to public

[2:14:04] hearings.

[2:14:17] 22. Ordinance no. 1375: amend

[2:14:18] the palm desert municipal code,

[2:14:19] chapter 25, modifying section

[2:14:28] 5.60.60 (public hearing and

[2:14:29] public notice), adding section

[2:14:30] 25.60.160 ¿community

[2:14:39] engagement,½ and chapter 5,

[2:14:40] section 5.11 ¿disclosures upon

[2:14:41] transfer of residential

[2:14:52] property½ regulating the public

[2:14:53] engagement process (1st

[2:14:55] reading) (cc)

[2:14:56] >> I'm sorry, madam mayor. I'm

[2:15:06] having technical difficulties.

[2:15:07] >> this is for notifying the

[2:15:21] policy of community engagement.

[2:15:23] >> can you see my screen?

[2:15:26] >> yes, perfect.

[2:15:27] >> this is the community

[2:15:30] engagement ordinance being

[2:15:33] proposed.

[2:15:35] early in the planning process

[2:15:37] leads to better outcomes to

[2:15:42] committee concerns. The

[2:15:43] community engagement intended

[2:15:44] to have the following. The city

[2:15:48] supports increasing the public

[2:15:54] notification of certain

[2:15:55] developments, broadening the

[2:15:58] audience and also as part of

[2:16:04] the application the community

[2:16:05] engagement plan to be reviewed

[2:16:07] by staff to adequately closing

[2:16:11] documents of long-term planning

[2:16:14] efforts and potential future

[2:16:16] projects including the

[2:16:20] disclosures of the city's --

[2:16:21] respond to public hearing and

[2:16:28] public notifications.

[2:16:37] so, our section 25.60.060, with

[2:16:39] what 300 feet is which is what

[2:16:43] is required and the new

[2:16:46] requirement.

[2:16:48] the developers are required to

[2:16:50] submit a community engagement

[2:16:52] plan for projects 5 acres or

[2:16:55] more. That is done at the time

[2:17:00] -- a method of communication

[2:17:01] with the public and locations

[2:17:02] for the public outreach to take

[2:17:05] place. It is also a requirement

[2:17:11] to submit any package.

[2:17:13] the requirement is one meeting

[2:17:16] at minimum with follow up

[2:17:19] meetings as directed by the

[2:17:23] department of services and

[2:17:24] project engagement with the

[2:17:28] public.

[2:17:29] the notification of the

[2:17:31] meetings will include a

[2:17:34] thousand notifications as well

[2:17:37] and how those concerns are

[2:17:41] being met.

[2:17:45] the third ordinance

[2:17:47] recommendation is any

[2:17:48] residential property located

[2:17:50] within our city is to deliver

[2:17:53] the prospective buyer through

[2:17:57] closing documents, the real

[2:17:58] estate tax disclosure, the

[2:18:00] resale of homes in older

[2:18:03] subdivisions to benefit from

[2:18:05] awareness of likely development

[2:18:14] in the vicinity.

[2:18:16] this concludes the staff

[2:18:18] report.

[2:18:19] >> thank you so much.

[2:18:20] I see two hands for questions.

[2:18:25] >>council member karina

[2:18:27] quintanilla: would anyone like

[2:18:30] attendance sheets be required

[2:18:33] or sign in sheets? I believe

[2:18:35] that was brought up in a

[2:18:39] previous conversation.

[2:18:41] >> so part of those meetings,

[2:18:43] city staff will have to

[2:18:45] participate. City staff will be

[2:18:47] there and if it is an in person

[2:18:50] meeting, there will be those

[2:18:53] sign in sheets. There is no

[2:18:54] requirement of the number of

[2:18:56] people that will show up.

[2:19:09] >>council member kathleen

[2:19:13] kelly: we essentially -- is

[2:19:16] that correct?

[2:19:17] >> that's correct.

[2:19:18] >> what I see in the staff

[2:19:29] requirement that resale of

[2:19:30] homes would lead to the

[2:19:35] disclosure called for. It's not

[2:19:41] the 5 acres issue.

[2:19:44] what I'm looking at in page 5,

[2:19:52] clarifying that the new

[2:19:55] language on disclosures only

[2:19:58] applies to new.

[2:20:03] >> also wanted to provide the

[2:20:09] opportunity to have, for

[2:20:15] example, for

[2:20:18] today.

[2:20:19] >> thank you. That's helpful.

[2:20:30] >> thank you.

[2:20:31] >> when this issue came up, of

[2:20:37] course it was enforcement and

[2:20:42] when the california real estate

[2:20:53] disclosure and fire risk, with

[2:20:57] this issue and directed to the

[2:21:03] city's website and ends up

[2:21:06] building their own home. If you

[2:21:10] follow the state law that

[2:21:14] already has the format. So

[2:21:15] that's why it went this way.

[2:21:20] it's something that is already

[2:21:25] there and we can develop this

[2:21:31] straight forward for that to

[2:21:33] happen.

[2:21:34] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

[2:21:38] thank you.

[2:21:39] so, item 5. That is under scope

[2:21:44] of regulations. It says the

[2:21:56] following.. And something that

[2:22:13] wouldn't create basically

[2:22:17] unlimited power.

[2:22:18] >> how to correct this or

[2:22:19] revise this if the council

[2:22:22] wishes. The thought process

[2:22:24] really was to see what kind

[2:22:30] those community members are,

[2:22:31] what are we going to see from

[2:22:35] our backyard. So they already

[2:22:38] provide those line of site. So

[2:22:40] we just wanted to reserve our

[2:22:41] right to be able to request

[2:22:47] those various kinds to really

[2:22:51] help and assist.

[2:22:54] >> let me help you direct your

[2:22:56] answer to my question.

[2:22:57] >> sure.

[2:22:59] >> I understand what developers

[2:23:01] provide and what they don't

[2:23:05] provide. This particular

[2:23:07] provision -- staff is not cost

[2:23:15] conscious, right? A

[2:23:18] 3-dimensional plan can cost,

[2:23:19] has staff considered some kind

[2:23:21] of limitation on this

[2:23:24] open-ended authority for staff

[2:23:29] to request additional items.

[2:23:33] >> to give me a week or so

[2:23:44] with staff. To address the

[2:23:47] concerns that are being

[2:23:48] generated to the city council

[2:23:49] this last year. I'm not quite

[2:23:54] sure how that procedurally

[2:23:55] require that before we take it

[2:23:58] to the city council. I tend to

[2:24:01] agree with you. This is not

[2:24:05] intended to be a bureaucratic

[2:24:11] backstop.

[2:24:27] >>council member kathleen kelly:

[2:24:32] mayor pro tem jonathan's

[2:24:38] suggestion, because certainly

[2:24:45] can -- the rails for the

[2:24:51] perspective. We'll find the

[2:24:56] middle ground.

[2:25:00] >> our next meeting.

[2:25:03] >> that will end the public

[2:25:06] hearing.

[2:25:08] >> good point.

[2:25:11] >>

[2:25:12] >>mayor jan harnik: so why --

[2:25:17] or do we have to open the

[2:25:18] public hearing if we are going

[2:25:25] to continue it? Mr. Hargrave?

[2:25:28] >> if we know we are coming

[2:25:31] back in 2 weeks, we go to a

[2:25:37] public hearing. And then

[2:25:42] continue to a date certain so

[2:25:45] that way we don't have to

[2:25:47] renotice it.

[2:25:48] >> why don't we do that to

[2:25:50] speak on it at this point.

[2:25:52] unless there are additional

[2:25:53] questions of staff, I will open

[2:25:59] the public hearing.

[2:26:03] and now why don't we move to

[2:26:05] continue this to the next

[2:26:10] meeting.

[2:26:12] >> second.

[2:26:19] >> we have a motion and second.

[2:26:22] can we please have a roll call

[2:26:29] vote.

[2:26:32] >>clerk: [roll call]

[2:26:33] >> motion to continue passes

[2:26:48] 5-0.

[2:26:49] >> that public hearing remains

[2:26:53] open at our next meeting.

[2:26:55] that marks the end of our

[2:26:59] meeting except for city manager

[2:27:03] comments.

[2:27:04] >> I have no comments tonight,

[2:27:06] mayor.

[2:27:07] >> thank you. And seeing no

[2:27:12] unfinished business, this

[2:27:14] meeting stands adjourned.

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