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[1:58] » Commissioner Altstepper for Armstrong

[2:02] >> here.

[2:03] » here.

[2:03] >> Commissioner Arri

[2:04] » Commissioner Arri

[2:04] >> here.

[2:06] » here.

[2:06] >> Commissioner Bernal

[2:07] » Commissioner Bernal

[2:07] >> here.

[2:08] » here.

[2:08] >> Commissioner Bergus

[2:09] » Commissioner Bergus

[2:09] >> here.

[2:09] » here.

[2:10] >> Commissioner Carlson

[2:11] » Commissioner Carlson

[2:11] >> here.

[2:12] » here.

[2:12] >> Commissioner Kelly

[2:13] » Commissioner Kelly

[2:13] >> here.

[2:13] » here.

[2:13] >> Commissioner/Representative Noak

[2:15] » Commissioner/Representative Noak

[2:15] >> here.

[2:17] » here.

[2:17] >> Commissioner O'Brier

[2:18] » Commissioner O'Brier

[2:18] >> here. Commissioner Xavier

[2:20] » here. Commissioner Xavier

[2:20] >> here.

[2:21] » here.

[2:21] >> Vice Chair G

[2:22] » Vice Chair G

[2:22] >> here.

[2:23] » here.

[2:23] >> Chair Meadows

[2:24] » Chair Meadows

[2:24] >> here.

[2:25] » here.

[2:25] >> Representative Anderson

[2:26] » Representative Anderson

[2:26] >> here.

[2:27] » here.

[2:27] >> Representative Alt Ren for Foley

[2:29] » Representative Alt Ren for Foley

[2:29] >> here.

[2:30] » here.

[2:30] >> Representative Worth

[2:31] » Representative Worth

[2:31] >> here. Okay,

[2:32] » here. Okay,

[2:32] >> we do have a quorum and everyone

[2:33] » we do have a quorum and everyone

[2:33] present.

[2:34] >> Thank you, Terry.

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[3:15] The next item on the agenda is public

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[3:26] » We have not received any written public

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[3:45] >> We do not have any public comment.

[3:48] » We do not have any public comment.

[3:48] >> That concludes public comment. We do not

[3:50] » That concludes public comment. We do not

[3:50] have any presentation this evening.

[3:53] We'll now move to the next item on the

[3:55] agenda, the consent calendar. Are there

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[4:13] Terry, do we have any written or in

[4:16] person or remote comments?

[4:17] >> We do not have any public comment.

[4:19] » We do not have any public comment.

[4:19] >> Do I have a motion and second?

[4:22] » Do I have a motion and second?

[4:22] >> Move the consent calendar.

[4:23] » Move the consent calendar.

[4:23] >> Second.

[4:24] » Second.

[4:24] >> Second.

[4:30] » Terry, could you call uh do roll call

[4:33] vote, please? Commissioner Arnich.

[4:36] >> I.

[4:36] » I.

[4:36] >> Commissioner Bernol.

[4:37] » Commissioner Bernol.

[4:38] >> Yes.

[4:38] » Yes.

[4:38] >> Commissioner Bergus.

[4:39] » Commissioner Bergus.

[4:39] >> Yes.

[4:40] » Yes.

[4:40] >> Commissioner Carlson.

[4:41] » Commissioner Carlson.

[4:41] >> Yes.

[4:42] » Yes.

[4:42] >> Commissioner Kelly.

[4:43] » Commissioner Kelly.

[4:43] >> Yes.

[4:43] » Yes.

[4:43] >> Commissioner Noak.

[4:44] » Commissioner Noak.

[4:44] >> Yes.

[4:45] » Yes.

[4:45] >> Commissioner O'Brier.

[4:47] » Commissioner O'Brier.

[4:47] >> Yes.

[4:48] » Yes.

[4:48] >> Commissioner Altstepper.

[4:50] » Commissioner Altstepper.

[4:50] >> Yes.

[4:51] » Yes.

[4:51] >> Commissioner Xavier.

[4:52] » Commissioner Xavier.

[4:52] >> Hi.

[4:53] » Hi.

[4:53] >> Vice Chair G.

[4:54] » Vice Chair G.

[4:54] >> Yes.

[4:55] » Yes.

[4:55] >> Chair Meadows.

[4:56] » Chair Meadows.

[4:56] >> Yes.

[4:56] » Yes.

[4:56] >> Motion passes unanimously.

[4:58] » Motion passes unanimously.

[4:58] >> Thank you, Terry.

[5:01] First item, uh, regular calendar. The

[5:04] first item is an action item from the

[5:05] administration and project committee to

[5:08] be presented by Andy Dillard seeking

[5:10] approval to award construction contract

[5:12] number 728 with DC Electric Group and

[5:16] authorize the executive director to

[5:18] designate or design to enter in

[5:21] agreements and execute purchase orders

[5:23] to procure equipment and software for

[5:25] the town of Danville intelligent

[5:27] transportation systems

[5:29] [clears throat] traffic signal

[5:30] monitoriization project.

[5:47] Thank you, Chair Meadows. Good evening,

[5:49] commissioners. It's my pleasure to

[5:51] present this item to you this evening uh

[5:54] to approve a construction contract and

[5:56] authorize uh procurement of equipment

[5:59] for the town of Danville IT traffic

[6:01] signal modernization project. So, as you

[6:04] know, this is uh the first CCTA managed

[6:07] smart signals project in the county.

[6:09] It's one of four. We have of course our

[6:11] larger county smart signals project and

[6:14] we have currently have three federal

[6:16] earmark projects that CCTA will be AAA

[6:20] uh advertise awarding and administering.

[6:23] Um this project is one of course near

[6:25] and dear to my heart as I started uh on

[6:27] the other side of this project at the

[6:29] town of Danville. So very happy to see

[6:31] it come to fruition here. Uh this

[6:34] project it includes upgrading 26 signals

[6:37] along uh the Sycamore Valley Camino

[6:40] Tasahera corridor in the town of

[6:42] Danville. Uh it includes video detection

[6:45] systems, advanced traffic uh signal

[6:48] cabinets um and also intersection

[6:51] analytics that go along with that and

[6:53] then uh a few Ethernet communication

[6:56] switches. Um in total this project

[6:58] includes 78 video detection cameras. Um,

[7:02] as I mentioned, the two ATC traffic

[7:04] signal cabinets, those will be located

[7:06] at uh, Danville's largest intersection,

[7:08] which is Camino Tasahara and Crow Canyon

[7:11] Road, and then also the Sycamore Valley

[7:13] Camino Raone intersection, which is the

[7:16] U intersection in front of the uh, the

[7:18] Sycamore Valley Park and Ride. Um, in

[7:20] total, this project is a $1.29 2 $29

[7:23] million project uh of which there's a

[7:27] million dollars in the community project

[7:29] funding congressional directed spending

[7:32] federal earmark.

[7:34] Here's a look uh at the corridor. Uh

[7:37] it's it's basically 25 intersections

[7:40] that's east of the I680 corridor down

[7:42] Sycamore Valley and Camino Tass and Cro

[7:44] Canyon. And then there's one

[7:46] intersection up in the top left corner

[7:48] that's near the town offices at the

[7:50] intersection of Elsero and Laganda.

[7:55] So you've seen this slide many times

[7:57] before. This is basically the suite of

[7:59] elements that compro that compose the

[8:02] countywide project as well as the

[8:03] Danville earmark conquered earmark and

[8:06] Lamarinda earmark projects. Uh the

[8:08] bottom three elements in the screen are

[8:10] the focus of the Danville earmark. Um

[8:12] the the very bottom left corner there,

[8:15] that's that's a exhibit of uh the no

[8:18] traffic uh video detection systems that

[8:21] are the primary element of this project.

[8:26] As far as advertisement goes, we

[8:28] released in October uh bid submissions

[8:31] were due in December. We tonight before

[8:34] you is a contract award uh pending um

[8:37] approval this evening. we will proceed

[8:39] on to our pre-construction meeting

[8:41] followed by start of construction in

[8:43] March.

[8:45] So in total uh we received six

[8:48] responsive bids with the low bid from DC

[8:51] Electric Group. Uh their their main

[8:53] office is based in Katy but they also

[8:55] have an office here in Pacheco. Um and

[8:59] so we we as I as I mentioned we received

[9:01] six uh qualifying bids which is uh

[9:04] hopefully a good sign for the other the

[9:06] projects uh that are that are uh will be

[9:09] falling behind this one.

[9:12] The other uh element to this project and

[9:15] approval before you this evening is the

[9:17] authorization

[9:19] uh to procure equipment. So as part of

[9:22] the authorization from CALR we received

[9:25] a cost effectiveness of public in uh

[9:28] interest finding which allows CCTA to

[9:31] procure their equipment and provide it

[9:33] as agency furnished. Uh we do this

[9:35] because we want to make sure that uh the

[9:37] equipment we're providing for the

[9:39] project is in line with with Danville's

[9:42] current traffic signal network uh

[9:44] equipment and software. And uh [snorts]

[9:47] concurrently while this project was out

[9:49] to bid, staff gathered specifications.

[9:53] Uh we we uh negotiated prices with the

[9:56] vendors and discussed availability so we

[9:59] could better gauge our construction

[10:01] schedule. Uh in total, the equipment uh

[10:04] and authorization we're requesting this

[10:07] evening is for $790,625.

[10:12] So, as I mentioned, overall schedule,

[10:16] um, construction will start, uh, in the

[10:18] wintertime, uh, of course, in 2026,

[10:21] hopefully by mid-March once we procure

[10:24] the equipment. Um, the cameras will go

[10:26] up first. Uh, there's a shorter lead

[10:29] time on those, followed by the traffic

[10:31] signal cabinets, which will take a

[10:33] little bit longer. That will probably be

[10:36] uh early to midsummer before those are

[10:38] those are uh uh installed. and then

[10:40] we'll be able to close out the project

[10:43] hopefully by the early fall of 26.

[10:47] So again, uh the the action before you

[10:49] is approval of resolution 2603P

[10:53] which will award the construction

[10:54] contract number 728 to DC Electric Group

[10:58] uh for a constru uh total construction

[11:01] allotment of $235,62

[11:04] which includes a 15% contingency. Uh

[11:08] this will authorize executive director

[11:09] or designate to also shift funds between

[11:11] construction allotment categories uh as

[11:14] long as the expenditures do not exceed

[11:16] the total amount. And finally authorize

[11:18] executive director or designate into

[11:21] agreements and execute purchase orders

[11:23] with various vendors for the said uh

[11:25] amount of 790625

[11:28] to procure the equipment and software.

[11:30] Uh so with that I'd be happy to answer

[11:33] any questions.

[11:34] >> Thank you Andy. Are there any comments

[11:36] » Thank you Andy. Are there any comments

[11:36] from the authority board?

[11:38] >> I have a question.

[11:39] » I have a question.

[11:39] >> Vice Chair

[11:51] Andy, thank you very much. Um, I have my

[11:54] question for you is um are we as CCTA

[11:59] staff going to have some kind of a um a

[12:04] kind of a formalized lessons learned? Um

[12:08] um I guess I want to say you know uh

[12:12] docu you know um

[12:15] yeah but well as this progresses because

[12:18] we have so much more of it coming up I I

[12:20] want to make I want to make sure that we

[12:23] all get to take maximum advantage of

[12:25] what you learn as you go along the way

[12:27] given how much more is coming down the

[12:29] pike. So I guess I'm curious as to

[12:31] whether you have all thought about you

[12:33] know some kind of formalized system of

[12:36] you know lessons learned.

[12:39] >> Thank you for the question commissioner.

[12:41] » Thank you for the question commissioner.

[12:41] So that's an excellent question. So

[12:43] first I'll speak informally to that. So,

[12:45] as we've been developing the countywide

[12:47] smart signal projects and as we've been

[12:50] moving through the design of this

[12:52] project, we've been discussing on how to

[12:55] improve um and to be more efficient with

[12:58] how we manage these. Um but on the

[13:01] formal level um that's something that uh

[13:04] we haven't talked about to this point

[13:05] but we can certainly uh we'd be happy to

[13:08] bring a report back to the board um once

[13:11] this project is completed to to share

[13:13] that uh with the board with lessons

[13:15] learned.

[13:16] >> Yeah, I I think it would, you know, has

[13:18] » Yeah, I I think it would, you know, has

[13:18] the potential to have real value um as

[13:21] especially as we move into conquered and

[13:23] Lamarinda and the other parts of the

[13:25] county. um a as you build that data over

[13:29] each contract, it seems like that could

[13:31] be very very helpful.

[13:35] » Commissioner Oberinger,

[13:37] >> thank you. Thank you for your

[13:38] » thank you. Thank you for your

[13:38] presentation and I did read through the

[13:41] staff report and I did hear this is the

[13:43] first of several projects and so I think

[13:46] the context that I'm missing because I

[13:48] know this goes all the way back to the

[13:49] town of Danville getting awarded um the

[13:52] federal grant. So, could you just help

[13:55] me understand what the process is for um

[13:58] for a city or a region to be able to to

[14:02] participate in this? Do they have to get

[14:04] a federal grant? And then what is the

[14:06] what is the value ad that CCTA is

[14:09] providing as opposed to a city or region

[14:11] going it alone?

[14:14] >> Great. Thanks for the question,

[14:15] » Great. Thanks for the question,

[14:15] Commissioner Oberinger. So, very good

[14:17] question. So with this Danville earmark,

[14:20] uh the earmark was actually pursued by

[14:22] the town and it was initially awarded to

[14:25] the town. Um once it was awarded, CCTA

[14:29] uh approached the town to offer their

[14:31] assistance. Uh we didn't reach out to

[14:33] them, they reached out to us. That's

[14:35] when I was sitting in my other seat. So

[14:37] I remember the the day I got the call.

[14:38] So and we were we were certainly happy

[14:40] to do that. uh in the instance of the

[14:42] Lamarinda and conquered ear marks, I

[14:45] believe that was more of a collaboration

[14:48] with CCTA to help procure uh those

[14:50] earmarks as well as the countywide

[14:52] signal project which of course CCTA was

[14:55] the lead applicant for uh the the CMAC

[14:58] OBAC funds. So, it's kind of a hybrid of

[15:01] those things. But uh I think uh with the

[15:04] countywide success of that project and

[15:07] then the law mora and conquer projects I

[15:10] think that's what led CCTA to approach

[15:12] the town and say hey we have these other

[15:14] projects why don't we you know uh we

[15:16] have this effort we can help you deliver

[15:18] this federal project and the value it

[15:20] adds definitely for the locals is that

[15:22] because these are federalized um there's

[15:25] there's a bigger lift to deliver these

[15:27] projects so there there's there's just a

[15:29] ton of value for CCTA to to assist with

[15:32] that. And uh again, the countywide

[15:35] project, you know, is basically it

[15:37] encompasses everything that you see in

[15:39] these earmark projects. It's all

[15:41] basically the same thing that we're

[15:43] trying to do and accomplish. So, uh from

[15:45] an efficiency standpoint, it's kind of

[15:47] really a no-brainer for for what CCTA is

[15:49] doing and and uh I think the locals are

[15:52] very appreciative of the staff level of

[15:55] of the help.

[15:58] >> Thank you. Just Commissioner Ober, if I

[15:59] » Thank you. Just Commissioner Ober, if I

[15:59] can just add because the the Danville,

[16:02] the Conquered, and even Pittsburgh got

[16:04] one. We just recently got another one

[16:06] for um Antioch and Oakley. And then we

[16:10] also um got the one for Lamarinda. And

[16:13] all of these are community benefit

[16:16] projects from Mark Donier, from

[16:19] Congressman Mark Don. So, so Congressman

[16:22] Mark Donier approached CCTA about like,

[16:25] you know, what are some of the things

[16:25] you're seeing in terms of priorities?

[16:27] and and so we started discussing to him,

[16:30] you know, safety at intersections and

[16:32] started talking to him about these smart

[16:34] signals and and Congressman Donia has

[16:37] been very very passionate about these

[16:39] projects and these earmarks um these

[16:41] community benefit projects and so we've

[16:43] been he's been actually working with

[16:45] CCTA to kind of prioritize and and how

[16:48] we can benefit all his all the

[16:50] communities within his region within his

[16:52] district for these for these smart

[16:54] signal community benefit projects. And

[16:56] so, um, so we're currently talking to

[16:58] Mark right now in terms of like what the

[17:00] next, you know, project is going to look

[17:02] like. And so, um, we were literally in

[17:04] DC last week actually having that

[17:06] conversation to kind of see what the

[17:08] what's going to be the next city that

[17:09] would be interested in doing these smart

[17:10] signal projects. So, it's really

[17:12] Congressman Mark Donier. I mean, we

[17:14] really need to give a shout out to him

[17:15] because he's the one that's been really

[17:16] pushing and sponsoring, you know, all of

[17:19] these projects. So,

[17:22] >> Commissioner Arri U, thank you. Um,

[17:25] » Commissioner Arri U, thank you. Um,

[17:25] Andy, it's it's great to see this going

[17:27] forward. We just as Danville, we just

[17:29] happen to be a little further ahead

[17:30] because we got the grant earlier. Um,

[17:33] but what's really important is CCTA's

[17:35] role is that they are designing and

[17:39] they're going to make sure that all

[17:40] these systems, if we do these all

[17:42] individually, guess what's going to

[17:44] happen? They're going to have 19

[17:46] different systems that don't talk to

[17:47] each other. So, that's really important.

[17:49] The secondly is the design team moves

[17:52] from project to project to project. So

[17:54] the lessons learned in all of those, we

[17:57] also, it's a little easier in our

[17:59] community because we had some empty

[18:00] conduits that got put in a long time

[18:02] ago. So to deploy it, we can get to it

[18:05] faster and we're going to be the guinea

[18:08] pig. So whatever we figure out in that

[18:10] and Andy and the team. Um so yeah, and

[18:14] that's that's okay. Um but I know you

[18:17] know the theory you got one throw the

[18:18] choke, it's I know where he sits. Um, I

[18:21] think this is really a great project and

[18:24] I don't think as a CTA board members we

[18:27] ever thought it would actually go this

[18:29] fast to get this many cities and

[18:32] actually make this connectivity. This

[18:34] was all theory. So, this is really cool

[18:38] and Mark Don needs a huge credit for

[18:41] this, but um, this is probably one of

[18:43] the best technology things we have on

[18:45] the table that's real

[18:47] and I'd be glad to make a motion when

[18:48] you get to it.

[18:50] >> [clears throat]

[18:50] » [clears throat]

[18:50] >> Representative Anderson.

[18:52] » Representative Anderson.

[18:52] >> Thank you. Um, so Andy, obviously this

[18:55] » Thank you. Um, so Andy, obviously this

[18:55] is in collaboration with the town of

[18:57] Danville. Each city sort of has their

[18:59] own standards of hours of construction,

[19:03] you know, especially these are all going

[19:05] into major major roads. So, are

[19:09] [clears throat] we going to let each

[19:11] city sort of set the construction hours

[19:13] so as to not conflict with school drop

[19:16] offs? And and again, I'm not just saying

[19:18] it because I go through the big

[19:20] intersection multiple times a day and

[19:22] down Sycamore Valley Road and Commino

[19:24] Tasahara, but but the reality is that a

[19:27] construction project timed at the wrong

[19:28] time would be a nightmare for any city.

[19:32] >> Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner

[19:33] » Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner

[19:33] Anderson, for the question. So, all

[19:35] these projects will follow the city's uh

[19:38] construction guidelines and and rules

[19:40] and regulations for hours of work. No,

[19:42] no question. So even though CCTA is

[19:45] managing and administering the project,

[19:47] it's still still the locals's uh final

[19:50] call on when and where we can work. So

[19:52] okay,

[19:53] >> special events, all those things.

[19:55] » special events, all those things.

[19:55] >> Appreciate that. Thank you.

[19:56] » Appreciate that. Thank you.

[19:56] >> Any other comments?

[20:00] » Any other comments?

[20:00] Is there any public comments on this

[20:02] item? Mr. Olsen?

[20:06] >> Yes, Bruce Olsen.

[20:10] » Yes, Bruce Olsen.

[20:10] >> Thank you. Is this working?

[20:12] » Thank you. Is this working?

[20:12] >> Yes.

[20:12] » Yes.

[20:12] >> Thank you. Good evening. I am Bruce

[20:13] » Thank you. Good evening. I am Bruce

[20:13] Olsen, East County's Mr. Bicycle.

[20:18] Contraosta County's bicycle community

[20:21] wishes to be assured that this traffic

[20:24] signal detection system is responsive to

[20:27] bicycles. Not only this Danville

[20:30] project, but throughout the entire

[20:32] county as you build it out. The

[20:35] bicyclist does not want to have to get

[20:38] off the bicycle and go over to the

[20:41] signal pole and push the pedestrian

[20:44] button. [clears throat]

[20:45] Uh we we expect that most of these uh uh

[20:51] the construction of these intersections

[20:53] are going to be on arterial streets and

[20:56] most already have bicycle lanes anyway.

[21:00] Thank you very much.

[21:01] >> Thank you, Mr. Olsson. Any other uh

[21:07] » Thank you, Mr. Olsson. Any other uh

[21:07] com public comments?

[21:15] » We have no additional public comment.

[21:18] Commissioner Stepper,

[21:20] >> I just wanted to follow up what Bruce

[21:21] » I just wanted to follow up what Bruce

[21:22] Olsson was saying because, you know, the

[21:24] first part of it is that it's going to

[21:25] detect all modes for pedestrians,

[21:27] bicycles, and vehicles, and we have long

[21:29] wanted to measure those separately for

[21:32] safety and to go towards a zero vision.

[21:35] So, thank you,

[21:36] >> Commissioner Honor. Do we have a motion?

[21:38] » Commissioner Honor. Do we have a motion?

[21:38] Um, some

[21:41] >> I'm sorry, she had a comment.

[21:42] » I'm sorry, she had a comment.

[21:42] >> I think you had a comment to uh respond,

[21:45] » I think you had a comment to uh respond,

[21:45] so I wanted to give you a chance.

[21:49] So I was I was happy for the question

[21:51] because that is a very important part of

[21:53] the video detection systems. Uh bikes,

[21:56] pedestrians, vehicles, these are

[21:58] advanced traffic video and radar

[22:01] detection systems. So not only do they

[22:03] do all that and detect, but they also

[22:05] give you the information and the data

[22:06] back so you can analyze near miss

[22:09] collisions, speeds, uh volumes, all

[22:13] those things. So that's just a a a

[22:16] another benefit of these uh these

[22:18] systems. So yeah,

[22:20] >> good point. Very good point.

[22:21] » good point. Very good point.

[22:21] >> Try it again.

[22:22] » Try it again.

[22:22] >> Yeah, [clears throat] I would be

[22:23] » Yeah, [clears throat] I would be

[22:23] delighted to move item number 8A

[22:27] um as presented here tonight.

[22:28] >> Is there a second?

[22:29] » Is there a second?

[22:29] >> I'll second that motion.

[22:31] » I'll second that motion.

[22:31] >> Thank you.

[22:32] » Thank you.

[22:32] >> Terry, could you conduct roll call vote,

[22:34] » Terry, could you conduct roll call vote,

[22:34] please?

[22:35] >> Commissioner Arri,

[22:36] » Commissioner Arri,

[22:36] >> I.

[22:37] » I.

[22:37] >> Commissioner Bernol,

[22:38] » Commissioner Bernol,

[22:38] >> yes.

[22:38] » yes.

[22:38] >> Commissioner Bergus,

[22:40] » Commissioner Bergus,

[22:40] >> I.

[22:40] » I.

[22:40] >> Commissioner Carlson,

[22:41] » Commissioner Carlson,

[22:41] >> yes. Commissioner Kelly,

[22:43] » yes. Commissioner Kelly,

[22:43] >> yes.

[22:44] » yes.

[22:44] >> Commissioner Noak,

[22:45] » Commissioner Noak,

[22:45] >> yes.

[22:46] » yes.

[22:46] >> Commissioner O'Berer,

[22:47] » Commissioner O'Berer,

[22:47] >> yes.

[22:48] » yes.

[22:48] >> Commissioner Altstepper,

[22:50] » Commissioner Altstepper,

[22:50] >> yes.

[22:51] » yes.

[22:51] >> Commissioner Xavier,

[22:53] » Commissioner Xavier,

[22:53] >> hi.

[22:53] » hi.

[22:54] >> Vice Chair G,

[22:55] » Vice Chair G,

[22:55] >> yes.

[22:55] » yes.

[22:55] >> Chair Meadows,

[22:56] » Chair Meadows,

[22:56] >> yes.

[22:56] » yes.

[22:56] >> Motion passes unanimously.

[22:58] » Motion passes unanimously.

[22:58] >> Thank you, Terry.

[23:02] The next item on is an action item to be

[23:05] presented by Tim seeking approval to

[23:07] award agreement number 739 with fair and

[23:10] peers to provide fresh professional

[23:12] services for the development of the

[23:14] transportation expenditure plan and

[23:16] approve resolution 26-04-P

[23:21] to appropriate measure J reserve funds

[23:23] for the development of a new

[23:24] transportation expenditure plan. Mr.

[23:27] Hail.

[23:28] >> Thank you, Chair Meadows. Um very

[23:30] » Thank you, Chair Meadows. Um very

[23:30] excited to present this item to all of

[23:32] you tonight. Um in November at the

[23:35] authority board meeting um we brought to

[23:37] you uh a a team to be able to move and

[23:41] and uh develop the transportation

[23:43] expenditure plan and and you authorized

[23:45] staff to begin negotiations of that

[23:48] contract um with the fair and peers team

[23:50] which was a a team of fair and peers but

[23:53] also multiple subconultants um which

[23:55] I'll uh get into the details here in a

[23:57] minute and we've completed those

[23:59] negotiations um and developed this very

[24:02] robust contract act um to really focus

[24:04] on really three major deliverables as

[24:07] part of the TE development. So um the

[24:11] team is really comprised of fair and

[24:13] peers um that's really going to be doing

[24:15] the overall program management as well

[24:16] as some of the graphics design some of

[24:18] the public engagement outreach um and

[24:20] it'll be very supported by multiple

[24:22] subconultants. Um one of those is Civic

[24:25] Edge. Civic Edge is going to be really

[24:27] focused on the public engagement and

[24:29] more of the um the extensive, you know,

[24:32] going into the public and doing the

[24:34] focus groups and and also doing the the

[24:37] popups and the surveys and all those

[24:40] things and really work with fair and

[24:42] peers and civic edge to be able to

[24:43] deliver on those things. fair and peers

[24:45] is really going to be helping and

[24:46] supporting more on the stakeholder

[24:48] engagement um you know in in support

[24:50] with the staff of CCTA and the other uh

[24:54] subconsultants are uh infra strategies

[24:56] which will be helping and supporting a

[24:58] lot of the governance discussions that

[24:59] we're going to be having as part of the

[25:01] TP including policy development um as

[25:03] well as ordinances and also

[25:06] implementation guides as we think about

[25:09] you know updating our local agency

[25:10] implementation guide updating the growth

[25:12] management program as well as um

[25:15] updating our growth management plan um

[25:18] implementation guide. So all of those

[25:19] things are kind of com in in that

[25:21] governance implementation guide and

[25:22] policy development. Um communication

[25:25] strategy is really going to be led by

[25:27] Clifford Moss um and Tommy Tommy

[25:29] Clifford. Also in support there is going

[25:32] to be Alex Evans um as you're all

[25:34] familiar with Alex Evans. And so that

[25:36] the two of them are going to be really

[25:37] supporting the communication strategy of

[25:39] the TEP and the TEP development as well

[25:41] as the messaging. And then kind of

[25:44] focusing on the actual deliverables

[25:46] themselves. There's really going to be

[25:48] three major deliverables. There's the

[25:49] actual TP which will be focused on

[25:52] really the TE that goes in the voter

[25:53] information guide. So something that

[25:55] like I learned or we learned in the 2020

[25:57] uh measure was you have to pay for every

[26:00] single page you put in the voter

[26:01] information guide. And so you ne don't

[26:04] necessarily want to develop a 3640page

[26:07] transfer expenditure plan. So we need to

[26:09] develop a really concise uh transfer

[26:11] expenditure plan. And then a lot of the

[26:13] ordinances, a lot of the policies, all

[26:15] those things, um, all of the kind of the

[26:18] meat of the of the of the policym,

[26:20] decision-m and the processes would then

[26:22] pro would go into the ordinance that

[26:24] would be approved by the board when we

[26:25] approve the TE. Um, the other major

[26:28] deliverable is uh the associated

[26:30] ordinances and and and implementation

[26:33] guides um to be able to support the the

[26:36] actual TP and implementation of the TEP

[26:37] to make sure we have a successful

[26:38] performance-based program. And that's

[26:41] another big part of this overall scope

[26:43] is as we're evaluating the projects and

[26:45] the programs to make sure that each of

[26:46] the projects and programs in the TEP um

[26:49] are being um really justified through

[26:52] KPIs, goals, metrics, and so there's a

[26:55] lot of time and effort that's put into

[26:57] evaluating, you know, how we're going to

[26:59] evaluate the projects, how we're going

[27:00] to screen the projects, how we're going

[27:01] to select the projects and programs that

[27:03] will get funded by the TE. And then also

[27:05] we're going to develop essentially like

[27:07] a trade-off tool um to be able to

[27:09] demonstrate to you, demonstrate to the

[27:11] public and demonstrate to stakeholders

[27:13] about, you know, when you invest in one

[27:14] thing, what are those trade-offs between

[27:16] some of the other things that may you

[27:18] may want to invest with the TE because

[27:19] there's only going to be a limited

[27:20] amount of funds. And so we need to make

[27:22] sure we're making the best

[27:23] performance-based kind of decisions in

[27:25] terms of funding the TP itself. Um,

[27:28] another big part of this uh in terms of

[27:30] the expenditure plan is also reviewing

[27:32] the governance um of CCTA um and looking

[27:36] at our role of the agency and in in

[27:38] relative to the future of transportation

[27:41] um particularly around things like the

[27:42] share mobility hubs like we've talked

[27:44] about you know bike share programs

[27:46] implementation of you know uh transit

[27:48] programs and student transit programs

[27:50] and those types of things uh expansion

[27:52] of 511 so all of those things and so

[27:54] really kind of looking at governance as

[27:56] part of the expenditure plan. So all of

[27:57] those things are built into this robust

[28:01] contract um that is going to be

[28:03] supported by this team. Now the contract

[28:06] itself will be a two-year overall

[28:08] contract. So um there's basically broken

[28:11] down into three phases at a very high

[28:13] level. Um the first phase is going to be

[28:15] an extensive public engagement. Um

[28:18] really kind of the listening phase

[28:19] that'll start immediately. Um and our

[28:21] goal is to have that listening phase

[28:23] between now and September. um and

[28:26] getting to the public in terms of doing

[28:27] a poll, doing a survey, doing popups, um

[28:31] doing community events and community

[28:33] meetings and then taking that

[28:35] information that listening and starting

[28:37] to develop the draft. And that draft, we

[28:40] would start developing that starting

[28:41] later this year. Um and then as SB63

[28:44] kind of runs its course, we can kind of

[28:46] feed that into the de the development of

[28:49] the framework, the development of the

[28:51] TP. Um and then the next phase of

[28:54] listening would be spring or summer of

[28:56] next year. Um to be able to really

[28:58] confirm the expenditure plan priorities

[29:01] that we've been listening, making sure

[29:02] that we captured those those priorities

[29:04] from the public that we got from the

[29:05] first phase of listening. And then the

[29:07] goal is to have the TP actually approved

[29:09] by November of of 2027. So the overall

[29:13] contract is a two-year contract um to

[29:16] get us to the end of 2027 basically. Um

[29:20] once the TE is approved, you know,

[29:22] considering depending on that's the

[29:24] direction and consideration of the

[29:25] board. Um and in order to get that

[29:27] approval, just as a reminder to

[29:29] everyone, um we do have to get

[29:31] resolutions to support from the majority

[29:33] of the cities with the majority of the

[29:34] population. So there's an extensive

[29:36] effort to really garner coalition

[29:38] building and getting that support behind

[29:40] the transportation expenditure plan. Um

[29:42] so that way the board here will feel

[29:44] confident that this is the right t to

[29:46] bring to the voters. um and then also

[29:48] bring to the board of supervisor who

[29:50] ultimately um gives us the approval to

[29:52] place it on the ballot. Um now the

[29:55] funding for the for this contract um is

[29:58] coming out of the Measure J reserves.

[30:00] And so if you remember about three years

[30:02] ago we created this Measure J reserves

[30:05] program. And so essentially what we

[30:07] started doing was we took um the

[30:10] mid-year budget, so the actual sales tax

[30:13] at the mid-year budget um and compared

[30:15] that to what we actually projected. And

[30:18] so that true up amount based on what we

[30:20] projected and the actual those amounts

[30:22] got put into a reserve. And so that

[30:25] accumulated roughly about $38 million in

[30:29] reserves over the last three years. And

[30:31] we and Brian and the finance team have

[30:33] done an excellent job of categorizing

[30:35] those reserves relative to how and where

[30:37] they would go in the expenditure plan.

[30:39] So we have a very detailed matrix in

[30:42] terms of like how much of those reserves

[30:44] would go to you know program 14 for

[30:46] express bus or or you know for the ferry

[30:48] program etc etc. So all of that has been

[30:52] accounted for and what we have done is

[30:55] because of this program reserve and I

[30:57] will say this has been very intentional

[31:00] um is that we've been able to generate

[31:02] earned interest on that reserve and so

[31:05] the intent is to fund this contract from

[31:07] the earned interest um on the reserves.

[31:11] There's currently 2.8 million in

[31:13] reserves today. Um, and so we would be

[31:16] issuing a limited notice proceed to the

[31:18] fair and peers teams for roughly $2 and

[31:20] half million dollars. And then the goal

[31:22] is as as as we receive more earned

[31:24] interest on the on the reserve starting

[31:26] this year and the following year and the

[31:28] following year after that um Brian and

[31:30] team and I have coordinated and and

[31:32] we're we're anticipating that we'll be

[31:33] able to fund this entire effort from the

[31:35] earned interest um in terms of the c in

[31:38] terms of cash flow right over the next

[31:40] like two to three years. Um and so we're

[31:43] asking the board to approve a

[31:45] resolution. This is the first time that

[31:47] the board has ever taken an action to

[31:49] release funds from this reserves

[31:51] program. Um and so and I think this is

[31:55] one of the eligible um activities based

[31:58] on that reserve policy which is attached

[32:00] to the staff report um to fund this

[32:02] contract. Um, and based on that funding,

[32:07] um, we will be able to continue and

[32:09] hopefully, you know, maintain the

[32:11] program level funding that's been

[32:12] allocated in the in the matrix of the

[32:14] funding that we've been keeping track

[32:15] of. At least that's the goal. Um, what

[32:18] we're asking the board though, I'm

[32:19] giving you a lot of detail about how we

[32:20] would manage the project, how we manage

[32:22] the cash flow, how we manage the

[32:23] contract, but in general, we're asking

[32:25] the board to release the the equivalent

[32:27] amount of the contract amount of the

[32:29] reserves to fund this contract. in terms

[32:31] of the management relative to earned

[32:32] interest and principal. That's something

[32:34] that Brian and I will be very closely

[32:36] watching in terms of managing this

[32:37] contract. Um

[32:40] the next step is I just want to kind of

[32:42] share a little bit of just some of the

[32:43] next costs that might that are going to

[32:45] be that we have to anticipate. Um I've

[32:48] been talking with Amra and we will need

[32:50] legal support, you know, obviously for

[32:52] the TE process. So, her and I have been

[32:54] talking about um getting a task order in

[32:57] place to be able to support the

[32:58] development of these ordinances and and

[33:00] the legal support work that would help.

[33:02] And so, that's that's going to be a

[33:03] cost. And so, I don't have an estimate

[33:05] for you right now, but it's in the

[33:06] sixdigit realm. Um and then the other

[33:09] big cost that's coming down the

[33:11] pipeline, which we won't have a good

[33:12] estimate on that until probably summer

[33:14] of 2028, is the actual cost to place the

[33:17] measure on the ballot. So, um, in 2016

[33:21] that cost was roughly $1.5 million. In

[33:24] 2020, because we had to pay for 36 pages

[33:26] in the voter information guide, which we

[33:27] will never do again, um, that cost was

[33:30] $2.7 million. And so, um, so we're

[33:34] anticipating, you know, somewhere in the

[33:35] ballpark of, you know, $1.5 to $2

[33:38] million. And again, and again, I think

[33:41] we're we're anticipating we'll be able

[33:43] to pay that amount through the earned

[33:44] interest on that third year beyond the

[33:47] beyond the life of this contract, right?

[33:48] Because there's going to be the 2.8

[33:50] million for earned interest is basically

[33:52] as of June 30th of 2025. So, there's got

[33:55] this fiscal year, the next fiscal year,

[33:57] and then another fiscal year beyond

[33:58] that. So, there's going to be three

[33:59] more, you know, anticipated um earned

[34:02] interest earnings on the reserve. And as

[34:05] Brian and I have been talking about,

[34:06] we've been anticipating that we'll be

[34:07] able to cash flow, you know, this entire

[34:09] process through the earned interest. Um,

[34:12] so I want to be really I'm want to be

[34:14] very transparent in terms of how we're

[34:16] funding this contract because I know

[34:17] there's a lot of eyes on this reserve. A

[34:19] lot of stakeholders are interested in

[34:20] this money. Um, and so I want to be

[34:22] really transparent in terms of how we're

[34:24] managing these funds, how we planning on

[34:26] fund this contract. And I think this

[34:27] this contract ultimately is really at

[34:29] the benefit of everyone because without

[34:31] the TP and without this contract, we're

[34:33] not gonna we're not going to move the

[34:35] needle towards getting to an approved

[34:37] TEP which ultimately extends everyone's

[34:39] funding. So, um, that concludes my

[34:42] presentation. Happy to take any

[34:44] questions that you may have about about

[34:46] the about the item.

[34:47] >> Thank you, Tim. Are there any questions

[34:48] » Thank you, Tim. Are there any questions

[34:48] or comments from the authority board?

[34:52] Commissioner Hriidge.

[34:54] >> Um, thanks, Tim. I I think this is

[34:57] » Um, thanks, Tim. I I think this is

[34:57] probably one of the most intelligent

[34:58] solutions that we've had and I'm going

[35:01] all the way back when we did Measure J.

[35:04] Um and I think it's much more

[35:05] transparent than it was in the past and

[35:07] a very clever way to not touch the

[35:10] principal funding. Um the other thing is

[35:14] if you look in Fear and Pur's contract

[35:16] and they list all the the top people

[35:18] that are working on this, there's some

[35:20] pretty pretty impressive names on there.

[35:23] And I think having all of those

[35:27] consultants under the control of one is

[35:30] based on our experiences of the past.

[35:34] Um, and those independent

[35:36] entities had conflicts. So I think this

[35:41] this sets us on a path for a greater

[35:43] chance of high level success.

[35:46] Um, and by the way, if we don't do this,

[35:50] shut the doors,

[35:52] quit fixing roads, quit fixing our

[35:54] projects, our county be completely out.

[35:58] This is a renewal. It's a responsibility

[36:01] we have. We still personally have to go

[36:03] out, form committees, raise money for

[36:06] the campaign and things like that. But

[36:08] as an agency, I think this is probably

[36:10] one of the more responsible

[36:12] um outlines and strategy that we've set

[36:16] forward, which I'm really confident this

[36:18] time. I'm confident in the way we're

[36:20] approaching it. I'm confident in the

[36:22] intelligence of what we're trying to do.

[36:25] We're staying in our lane. We're trying

[36:27] to keep it simple and make sure that a

[36:30] policy is backed up by all those actions

[36:33] necessary. So, um, I I think this is

[36:37] really really a great solution. So,

[36:40] thank you to everybody that's worked on

[36:42] this.

[36:44] >> Commissioner Noak.

[36:46] » Commissioner Noak.

[36:46] >> Yeah, I um, one, I love the simplicity

[36:49] » Yeah, I um, one, I love the simplicity

[36:49] factor because that's the thing I hated

[36:52] the last time. So, um, I think that's

[36:54] super important and hate is probably the

[36:56] accurate word for that. Um uh so on the

[37:00] on the earned interest um by the time

[37:03] the funds are released for this they

[37:06] will have come out of earned interest.

[37:08] So even though it's only 2.8 now before

[37:11] the money is actually released that you

[37:13] expect that that cash flow to be in.

[37:15] >> Yeah. I mean that's the I mean we're

[37:17] » Yeah. I mean that's the I mean we're

[37:17] we're giving fair and peers like limited

[37:19] notice proceeds. So we're we're managing

[37:21] the contract based on the available

[37:23] funds. So, so that's we're going to be

[37:25] very very fiscally responsible in terms

[37:27] of like how we do this.

[37:28] >> Yeah, I was just I wanted to make sure

[37:30] » Yeah, I was just I wanted to make sure

[37:30] that um because that's not that was not

[37:31] clear on the actual recommendation. And

[37:33] the third thing is I I just you know

[37:35] we're talking about going out right away

[37:37] to the public and I think I' I've told

[37:40] said this to you many times but it is

[37:43] concerning because we'll be MTC will be

[37:46] not the citizens initiative will be out

[37:48] for the SB63 ballot and I don't want the

[37:52] public to get confused thinking that the

[37:56] measure they're voting on potentially in

[37:58] November

[38:00] is what's delivering

[38:02] what our consultants are out there

[38:04] talking about now and so because

[38:06] otherwise they will be thinking why am I

[38:09] doing this a second time two years from

[38:10] now. So we've got to figure out a way

[38:13] that that communication is either really

[38:16] clear or it's very controlled so that um

[38:19] there's no confusion and neither ballot

[38:23] measure is impacted. Let's put it that

[38:26] way.

[38:27] >> I just on that point, Commissioner Noak,

[38:29] » I just on that point, Commissioner Noak,

[38:29] I think um the team's very aware of

[38:31] that. Um there's already been meetings

[38:34] and briefings with the consultant for

[38:36] SB63. So I think it to your point like

[38:39] it's going to be really key both for the

[38:42] success of the extension of our measure

[38:45] as well as SB63 that the message is

[38:48] coordinated and and can complement each

[38:50] other and not conflicting with each

[38:52] other. So agreed

[38:55] >> supervisor Bergus.

[38:56] » supervisor Bergus.

[38:56] >> Thank you. Yeah, I I agree Sue. So I

[38:58] » Thank you. Yeah, I I agree Sue. So I

[38:58] think particularly in these times of

[39:00] uncertainty, misinformation,

[39:03] lack of trust, uh to keep it as simple

[39:08] for people to understand what we're

[39:10] doing is really important. One of the

[39:12] things I know we're talking about kind

[39:14] of the process and who's doing what, how

[39:16] we're paying for it, but one thing

[39:18] that's been brought up to me is um the

[39:22] concern about how the RPTAs are

[39:25] participating participating versus the

[39:28] cities and the concerns about regional

[39:31] projects. Um can you talk a little bit

[39:34] about that? It was said, it was told to

[39:36] me and I wanted to clarify that folks

[39:39] like transplant wouldn't be leaning in

[39:42] as much as the cities. Is that correct?

[39:45] >> Yeah. So, we we actually went to the

[39:47] » Yeah. So, we we actually went to the

[39:48] PMA, the public management association.

[39:50] We talked to all the city managers um in

[39:53] January,

[39:54] like two weeks ago. I guess we're are

[39:56] still in January. Um times time flies

[39:59] but I think the city managers um when we

[40:02] discussed well let me take a step back.

[40:05] So in the contract there's four groups

[40:07] right four groups to engage with there's

[40:09] the board which is you there's the

[40:11] cities there's the stakeholders and then

[40:14] there's the public again trying to keep

[40:16] things really simple in terms of like

[40:17] these are the groups that we have to

[40:18] engage and and garner support. So with

[40:22] the team and with the city managers, you

[40:25] know, we went to talk to the PMA and we

[40:26] said, "Hey, like what do you think is

[40:29] the best way to engage with the cities,

[40:31] you know, and you know, what was some of

[40:32] the lessons learned that you all got in

[40:34] 2016 and 2020?" And they specifically

[40:39] said they they raised concerns in terms

[40:41] of how we were engaging with the RTPC's

[40:44] and not directly with the cities. And

[40:46] the city managers were basically saying,

[40:48] "Hey, like we really felt we were late

[40:49] to the table on the last one." and

[40:51] because you guys were engaging with the

[40:52] RTPC so much and so knowing that the

[40:55] cities are really we all know in 2020 we

[40:58] didn't necessarily have this big hurrah

[41:00] you know behind all the local

[41:02] jurisdictions and the cities and that

[41:03] coalition building and so so I think

[41:06] strategically the team has been really

[41:07] thinking about what's the best way to

[41:09] engage with the cities and we feel like

[41:11] engaging directly with the city managers

[41:14] you know at the PMA we feel like that's

[41:16] going to be the the venue or the place

[41:18] that we're going to be really getting

[41:20] that input from the cities and the local

[41:21] jurisdictions and really work with the

[41:23] city managers rather than really working

[41:25] through the RTPCs because when we were

[41:27] when we're working through the RTPC's

[41:29] it's there's a gap because we're talking

[41:31] to staff and we're assuming staff is

[41:33] briefing the city managers which in some

[41:35] cases is not happening and so there's a

[41:37] massive gap in terms of communication

[41:39] and then the city managers were late to

[41:40] the table. So like and so we're briefing

[41:43] you know all of you the electeds and

[41:45] we're briefing the staff and so there's

[41:47] just a gap there in terms of like this

[41:49] the decision-m that's happening at the

[41:50] local city level which is really you all

[41:53] what you all serve you know and so so I

[41:56] think so the city managers unanimously

[41:58] said that that they would like to be

[42:00] directly involved in the process and not

[42:03] necessarily like go through the RTPCs.

[42:06] Now the RTPC's will still be involved.

[42:10] It's like this RTPC's will be brought

[42:12] into the into the discussion and briefed

[42:14] as needed as we go through the process.

[42:16] But I think at the November board

[42:18] workshop, you know, I think we heard it

[42:20] loud and clear that we need to bring

[42:21] everyone to the table and really get

[42:23] communication across the board at with

[42:26] everyone at the table. And I think, you

[42:28] know, going to four RTPCs and the sub

[42:30] regions like not everyone's able to hear

[42:32] everyone, not everyone's able to see

[42:34] everything. And so what we feel like

[42:36] making sure that everyone feels heard,

[42:38] everyone's at the table, that we're

[42:40] going to be coordinating directly with

[42:42] all 19 cities at the same time in the

[42:44] same venue, in the same conversation and

[42:46] the county um to be able to build this

[42:49] this transputed expenditure plan.

[42:51] >> Yeah. I just I'm concerned about kind of

[42:53] » Yeah. I just I'm concerned about kind of

[42:53] the regional um view when when I when

[42:58] Transplant gets together. you know,

[43:00] we're we definitely represent the areas

[43:03] that we represent, but we're also

[43:05] thinking on a regional level. And I know

[43:08] that each city has a responsibility to

[43:10] think about their city.

[43:12] Um, and I'll just say, uh,

[43:15] unincorporated Contraosta, if it was a

[43:18] city, would be the largest city

[43:21] geographically and, uh, populationwise.

[43:25] So, you know, I just I I'm concerned

[43:28] about the regional effects because uh

[43:32] unincorporated contraosta is so spread

[43:34] out that um will the cities do that? So,

[43:39] I I hope it's not an eitheror. I think I

[43:42] think it should be and

[43:44] >> yeah, I think that's I think consulting

[43:46] » yeah, I think that's I think consulting

[43:46] the RTPC's I think when we are dealing

[43:49] with more of these re these like

[43:50] subregional things. Um but the county is

[43:53] at the table too. I mean, the county

[43:54] attends the PMA.

[43:55] >> Mhm.

[43:56] » Mhm.

[43:56] >> You know, and so and you know, I've been

[43:58] » You know, and so and you know, I've been

[43:58] talking with Monica. We've been making

[43:59] sure they've been installed. John

[44:00] Coptic's involved. And so, we've been

[44:02] making sure that leadership at the

[44:03] county level is also at the table as

[44:05] well at the PMA level. So, I think it's,

[44:07] you know, and I think what we're trying

[44:09] to accomplish is really making sure that

[44:11] like it's if you have everyone at the

[44:14] table, then that entire subregion is

[44:16] also at the table as well, you know. So

[44:19] it's it's because I think we've already

[44:21] been kind of strategizing in terms of

[44:22] like the May board workshop about how we

[44:25] want to get everyone to the table. And

[44:27] so the thought process and the goal

[44:29] would be that we would invite every RTPC

[44:33] member to that board workshop. Every

[44:36] elected official would get invited to

[44:38] that board workshop. I also think it's

[44:40] important because people kind of

[44:43] transition in and out of those

[44:45] committees

[44:47] and

[44:48] um particularly if you're new

[44:51] understanding the hat that you're

[44:53] wearing as a regional member. I think it

[44:55] would be great for us to kind of help

[44:58] people understand that regional

[45:01] um filter that they need to be

[45:03] approaching because what happens at the

[45:05] conquer naval weapons station h you know

[45:08] affects what happens in east county.

[45:10] >> I know

[45:12] » I know

[45:12] [laughter]

[45:13] >> you know what happens on Vasco road

[45:16] » you know what happens on Vasco road

[45:16] affects in other places what happens in

[45:18] Kirker Pass or Highway 24 or you know

[45:22] out in West County. So, I just want to

[45:25] make sure that and I totally support

[45:28] cities, but I do want this regional

[45:31] um vision to be included as an and not

[45:35] an or.

[45:36] >> Thank you,

[45:38] » Thank you,

[45:38] >> Mr. Stepper.

[45:40] » Mr. Stepper.

[45:40] Thank you. Um I'll be very brief, but I

[45:43] was on the first uh well, I guess David,

[45:46] who ran the first one that when I came

[45:48] on board, so we've been through one of

[45:50] these is a little easier when you're

[45:51] presenting to them. you're having the

[45:53] fourth bore of the tunnel. It's pretty

[45:55] visual. Um, and so I'm very concerned

[45:58] that the program be more sophisticated

[46:00] this time than the last one that was

[46:02] here because these are um we're a highly

[46:05] technical area. The AI is taking over

[46:07] everything right now. And um and beyond

[46:11] that, the kind of vehicles that you see

[46:13] every year when you go to the

[46:14] transportation agencies, people want to

[46:17] know that they're going to see the

[46:19] sophistication, technology, and speed of

[46:21] the vehicles, how it's going to make a

[46:23] difference to them, whether it's a bike

[46:25] or whether it's a car or whatever

[46:27] vehicle you're on. So, um I'm concerned

[46:30] about the program. Um I love the way you

[46:32] presented that it would be much briefer

[46:34] on the ballot because people just don't

[46:36] read all that. and um and the interest

[46:40] and funding this because when I read

[46:43] this yesterday, I could all I could

[46:45] think of was how much this was costing

[46:46] versus when I looked up some old

[46:48] programs from SWAT from way back when.

[46:50] Um and this is taking care of it in such

[46:54] a a really creative way. So, thank you

[46:56] very much for that. I think that people

[46:58] will be very um responsive to that.

[47:00] Thank you,

[47:02] >> Commissioner Kelly.

[47:03] » Commissioner Kelly.

[47:03] >> Oh, yeah. Thank you. I want to echo what

[47:05] » Oh, yeah. Thank you. I want to echo what

[47:05] uh Diane said about it being both and so

[47:08] we should go we got a lot of firepower

[47:10] here with the consultants so we should

[47:12] go out to the RTPCs and see what those

[47:14] different regional needs are and each

[47:16] region is different and we should also

[47:18] talk to the city managers you know and

[47:20] one thing that's really important we've

[47:22] all said this before is return to source

[47:24] local streets and roads or you know or

[47:26] maybe you use it for bicycles in your

[47:28] city but with gas tax revenues going

[47:31] down because everybody's transitioning

[47:33] to um zero emission vehicles. We're

[47:36] going to need money to work on our PCI

[47:38] on our pavement and for other things too

[47:41] in the local area. And if you can reach

[47:43] those cities, then you can reach the

[47:45] people in those cities and those people

[47:47] are the voters. My second point is I

[47:49] want to agree with Sue. SB63 that's

[47:52] coming. This is a transit measure that

[47:54] hopefully will be coming here in

[47:55] November. But when we go out for our

[47:58] measure, it's going to be different.

[47:59] It's going to include pavement. it's

[48:01] going to include bicycles and you know

[48:03] safe streets for all and a whole bunch

[48:05] of different things. So I think there is

[48:07] a way to differentiate it but we don't

[48:09] want to confuse the people. So we got to

[48:13] >> Mr. Oberger.

[48:15] » Mr. Oberger.

[48:15] >> Thank you. So um I was not on this body

[48:19] » Thank you. So um I was not on this body

[48:19] for the last measure and I just remember

[48:21] bits and pieces of it. So it's helpful

[48:23] to hear from others about what has

[48:26] improved you know over this approach.

[48:29] Um, I think it would be helpful if

[48:31] there's some kind of like cliffnotes

[48:33] version of, okay, this is how we're

[48:35] improving things because when I saw the

[48:36] amount of money for the consultant, it

[48:39] just it gave me a little bit of pause.

[48:41] So, I I'm getting, like I said, like the

[48:43] context from some of the other

[48:44] commissioners who have more experience,

[48:46] but it would just be helpful for some of

[48:47] us who are new to better understand so

[48:50] we can communicate to people um why this

[48:53] is a a large investment, but a good

[48:55] investment. And then the other question

[48:57] I had in terms of categories um so was

[49:00] there a definition for stakeholder

[49:03] versus public because you know a member

[49:06] of the public would consider themselves

[49:08] a stakeholder. So how are you

[49:10] differentiating between those

[49:11] categories?

[49:12] >> No, that's a good question. Uh

[49:14] » No, that's a good question. Uh

[49:14] Commissioner Bringer, I think the public

[49:16] is really the general public. Um I mean

[49:18] that's really what we're kind of really

[49:20] focusing on is that that kind of boots

[49:22] on the ground public engagement, you

[49:24] know, with the constituents. um

[49:26] stakeholders are going to be a it's

[49:28] going to be managed probably we're still

[49:30] trying to strategize exactly how we're

[49:32] going to do this but I think you know

[49:34] we're thinking that you have like NOS's

[49:37] you have businesses you have labor

[49:38] you've got um um the CBOS the transit

[49:43] operators you know all of these are just

[49:46] to keep it really again we're trying to

[49:48] keep things simple so it's like we have

[49:49] four groups right board city

[49:52] stakeholders public and the stakeholders

[49:54] really kind of a catchup call right for

[49:56] all the other folks that we really need

[49:58] to engage with um that are going to help

[50:00] guide you know the investments you know

[50:03] into the measure and so and each of

[50:05] those groups will have you know again we

[50:07] got to strategize on this but each of

[50:09] these groups will have different

[50:11] different venues different meetings

[50:12] different engagement structures you know

[50:14] that we have to really work with the

[50:16] team once we get the team on board and

[50:17] engaged we will be coming back I mean

[50:20] yeah I just want to be clear like we're

[50:23] going to be talking about this every

[50:25] single month for the next two years,

[50:27] >> you know, and so meetings are going to

[50:29] » you know, and so meetings are going to

[50:29] start getting long. We're going to be

[50:30] here for a long time. We're going to be

[50:32] talking about policy. We're going to be

[50:33] talking about all this stuff,

[50:34] engagement, like it's it's that the

[50:37] rubber is going to hit the road here

[50:38] pretty quick. So, so I think, you know,

[50:40] once we get this team engaged, the next

[50:43] step is to come to you with a a full

[50:45] engagement strategy and and go into the

[50:48] details of exactly all of these things,

[50:50] right? And so, um, I mean, there's a

[50:53] there's if you look at the scope,

[50:55] there's, you know, there's probably

[50:57] 2,000 slides that have to be prepared in

[50:59] the scope, you know, and so, so there's

[51:02] a long road ahead of us. It's going to

[51:04] be a lot of time and we plan to bring

[51:06] all this back to you to get input with

[51:08] you from you every step of the way you

[51:11] know and so so this kind of four group

[51:13] pyramid that we that we have set up and

[51:15] this engagement process you know we want

[51:17] to confirm that this is the right

[51:18] process with all of you you know and so

[51:20] I think but public is general public and

[51:22] then stakeholders is kind of you know

[51:24] all these other stakeholder groups that

[51:26] are going to have interest in the

[51:27] expenditure plan and the funding.

[51:29] >> Thank you. And just one quick followup

[51:31] » Thank you. And just one quick followup

[51:31] again, I think it would be really

[51:33] helpful because I understand the

[51:35] expectation is going to be, you know, if

[51:37] we put this together, we should be out

[51:39] advocating in our communities, but I

[51:41] really don't know as I'm sitting here

[51:43] right now how um how how my city, you

[51:47] know, voted last time, right? like it

[51:49] would be just I think really helpful to

[51:51] understand where did the previous

[51:52] measure succeed, where did it fail so

[51:55] that we have that baseline of

[51:56] understanding about how our community

[51:58] felt and that'll help us approach our

[52:01] advocacy.

[52:02] >> Yeah, we ju just to be clear, we we plan

[52:05] » Yeah, we ju just to be clear, we we plan

[52:05] to bring all that back to the board like

[52:07] lessons learned. I mean there's there's

[52:09] a lot to learn from the 16 measure.

[52:11] There's a lot of learn to learn from the

[52:12] 2020 measure. And so yeah, we're we'll

[52:14] we'll bring all this data. I mean, I

[52:16] think one thing I want you to be really

[52:18] clear on is this is going to be a very

[52:20] datadriven approach, you know, and so

[52:23] the goal, the key here is to really make

[52:26] show many slides with lots of data and

[52:28] to your eyeballs or like glazed over,

[52:31] you know, I'm just joking. But I think

[52:33] the idea here is to really show you lots

[52:34] of data and get you get show you where

[52:37] we're going and get input from you on

[52:38] where we're going on every step of the

[52:40] way. So,

[52:43] >> Commissioner Berno.

[52:44] » Commissioner Berno.

[52:44] >> Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for the

[52:45] » Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for the

[52:45] presentation, Tim. So, a couple

[52:47] questions. Um, one is, so this is, uh,

[52:50] being funded in total by the reserve,

[52:54] but the interest is going to pay for it

[52:56] over time. Is that correct?

[52:58] >> Correct.

[52:59] » Correct.

[52:59] >> That's the plan. And it's it's sounds

[53:02] » That's the plan. And it's it's sounds

[53:02] like it's going to be pretty tight

[53:03] between all the different consultants to

[53:07] keep it pacing with the interest.

[53:09] Correct. I mean, it's

[53:11] >> we So, we have right now there's 28

[53:13] » we So, we have right now there's 28

[53:14] million. So, we're confident we'll be

[53:16] able to fund the first year of this

[53:18] contract, you know, with what was

[53:20] already in there, which was already in

[53:21] the earned interest. So, so there'll be

[53:24] there'll be another another payment of

[53:26] earned interest that gets dropped in

[53:27] there sometime June or June or July of

[53:29] this year, you know, and so and after we

[53:32] get this full fiscal year of earned

[53:33] interest on the reserves.

[53:36] >> And so, and that'll be that I mean,

[53:38] » And so, and that'll be that I mean,

[53:38] we're anticipating that'll be roughly

[53:40] about a million and a half or so. you

[53:42] know, that's been kind of what we've

[53:43] been seeing in general. Um, and so as

[53:45] the as the as the invoices are coming in

[53:48] from the consultant, the goal is to cash

[53:50] flow those invoices and pay those

[53:51] invoices from the earned interest. So,

[53:53] we're we're far enough ahead in the

[53:55] curve to be able to support, you know,

[53:57] those invoices that are going to get

[53:58] paid through the whole process.

[54:00] >> Does this is this contract uh have any

[54:03] » Does this is this contract uh have any

[54:03] contingency built into it?

[54:05] >> Yeah. Uh, no, there's no contingency

[54:06] » Yeah. Uh, no, there's no contingency

[54:06] built into the contract. So like we we

[54:09] wanted to make it if if anything

[54:11] changes,

[54:12] we want to make sure this board knows

[54:14] about it. So there's there's no

[54:16] contingency. So if we have to add do an

[54:18] amendment or anything like that, I

[54:20] wanted to make sure that you are fully

[54:22] aware about this contract. You know,

[54:24] like like if if if there is a situation

[54:27] where cash flow is not meeting and we

[54:29] start looking at it and we're like, "Oh,

[54:30] we may have to dip into the principal."

[54:32] You will all be the first to know. Like

[54:34] I will bring an item back and we will

[54:36] talk about it. So like again I want to I

[54:37] know this reserve is very sensitive to

[54:40] all of you and to our stakeholders and

[54:43] we are going to be extremely transparent

[54:45] in terms of how we manage this contract

[54:47] you know so um so I just want to make

[54:49] that really clear

[54:51] >> and we've all seen um these contracts

[54:53] » and we've all seen um these contracts

[54:53] kind of creep right they get bigger so

[54:57] uh

[54:58] what I guess my question is who's who's

[55:01] ultimately responsible obviously you are

[55:02] but how is this going to be managed who

[55:05] within CCTA DTA.

[55:06] >> So I'm personally going to manage this

[55:08] » So I'm personally going to manage this

[55:08] contract. So you can hold me responsible

[55:10] for every every everything on it. So

[55:13] obviously the team is going to be this

[55:15] is a large supported team effort, you

[55:17] know, within CCTA. There's going to be

[55:19] tons of people involved um from the

[55:21] planning team, the projects team, the

[55:22] finance team, you know, the admin, every

[55:24] everyone's going to be involved. This is

[55:25] a huge undertaking for our team, you

[55:28] know, and so um so yeah, I mean I will

[55:31] be managing the contract, reviewing

[55:33] invoices, but there are going to be

[55:35] components of this, you know, for

[55:36] example, like public engagement. I'll

[55:38] make sure Lindy re reviews that part of

[55:40] the invoice, etc., etc. You and so it's

[55:43] going to be a it's going to be a staff

[55:44] undertaking, you know, to make sure that

[55:46] everything stays, you know, stays

[55:48] consistent. Um, and making sure again to

[55:51] manage the scope creep, you know,

[55:53] because I mean, and again, if there's

[55:54] scope creep, then again, there'll be

[55:56] like I'll make if there's an amendment,

[55:57] you know, we'll need an amendment. And

[55:58] that's why I didn't want to add

[55:59] contingency because again, I want

[56:00] everything to be very very transparent.

[56:02] >> Sure. And although I know you're really

[56:04] » Sure. And although I know you're really

[56:04] busy, I think that's the right answer to

[56:06] that you're ultimately responsible

[56:07] because um this has got to be really,

[56:10] you know, you have you got to know every

[56:12] what's going on with it. And I guess my

[56:14] final comment is just I agree with the

[56:16] the comment about the the manag you know

[56:19] the the PMA the city managers and um the

[56:22] RTPC's both being involved because city

[56:24] managers come and go get busy focus on

[56:27] other things. So it's not a guarantee

[56:29] just because they're being told you know

[56:31] what's happening that they're going to

[56:32] be able to translate that to councils

[56:34] and to people that need to know.

[56:37] >> Yeah. And and again we'll we'll bring

[56:38] » Yeah. And and again we'll we'll bring

[56:38] all this back to the board for

[56:40] engagement. You know, I think um in

[56:42] terms of how and when we're going to

[56:44] engage the RTPCs, I I I 100% agree with

[56:47] all of you on the and it's not an or.

[56:49] Okay, it's I think the question is is

[56:51] how do we engage the RTPCs and when do

[56:53] we engage with the RTPCs? Um and so

[56:57] because and and we can come up with

[56:59] scenarios and we can talk about that,

[57:01] you know, as we kind of get into the

[57:02] details. So, so I agree with engaging

[57:06] with both. Uh I mean, we need to have

[57:09] the subregional projects in there or I

[57:12] don't believe it'll go, but the cities

[57:14] are going to want their little little

[57:15] bits, too. Uh talking about the contract

[57:18] amount, I understand, you know, wanting

[57:21] to spend all the money wisely, but if we

[57:23] don't if we don't do this and we don't

[57:25] do it, we don't spend it and we don't

[57:26] spend it and do it right,

[57:29] >> we won't even be sitting here in a few

[57:30] » we won't even be sitting here in a few

[57:30] years. So I mean it has to in my mind it

[57:33] has to be done has to be done right and

[57:35] we need to we need to put the resources

[57:36] into it that will allow us to be

[57:39] successful in the next ballot measure.

[57:44] So

[57:45] >> any other

[57:47] » any other

[57:47] >> representative work

[57:48] » representative work

[57:48] >> thank you sir um first of all I think

[57:51] » thank you sir um first of all I think

[57:51] this is an excellent approach and I

[57:53] think Tim's leadership to manage this

[57:55] process is going to be so invaluable. Um

[57:59] the different dynamics right now is we

[58:01] are looking at a situation where the the

[58:04] revenue flow will stop if we can't uh

[58:08] renew this measure. So it's very

[58:09] different dynamics than than than

[58:12] previously when we were looking at

[58:13] adding on to an existing tax. So um I

[58:17] think that the engagement of various

[58:19] parties particularly the PMA and other

[58:21] groups that really understand how vital

[58:23] this is to our county are going to be

[58:25] really important. The other piece that I

[58:27] think is extremely important to engage

[58:30] is our our other JPA colleagues in the

[58:33] county and those are the transit

[58:35] agencies. they are going to be really in

[58:38] and including Bart here in terms of uh

[58:42] you know the when you look at the voters

[58:44] you know BART consistently uh polls

[58:49] very positively in this county um as

[58:52] well as the you know things like we've

[58:54] talked about school transportation home

[58:56] transportation seniors so I think early

[58:58] on also engaging with our colleagues on

[59:01] the transit agencies will be really

[59:04] vital in terms of putting together. Not

[59:06] only a pro, you know, first the polling

[59:09] to really test what the voters are um

[59:14] want to support and second of all the

[59:17] the engagement in developing the

[59:19] programs because we we realized when we

[59:22] were headed out to the retreat uh in

[59:25] Oakley in the morning and seeing the

[59:27] massive traffic going the other way that

[59:30] we're not going to be riding widening

[59:32] lanes. we're going to be looking at

[59:33] alternative ways of of moving people uh

[59:38] for example using using transit and uh

[59:41] so I I think this is a great approach

[59:43] and I know everybody is looking forward

[59:45] to really rallying to support this

[59:47] effort collectively

[59:52] » commissioner I I would just add to that

[59:55] conversation um having been through

[59:59] measure J then two rounds so this would

[1:00:01] be the fourth one Um, to be honest, in

[1:00:03] the in the the last couple, we were

[1:00:06] hijacked. We're hijacked by groups,

[1:00:08] organizations. I'm not going to name

[1:00:10] them because we lost focus

[1:00:15] with the people who count, which are the

[1:00:17] voters.

[1:00:18] The groups aren't the voters. They're

[1:00:20] just people. They have self-interest.

[1:00:22] It's money. A very large organization

[1:00:25] hijacked us. We had a consultant that

[1:00:27] was representing both. and it and it

[1:00:30] just took us and we spent too much time.

[1:00:35] So all of what's organized in this

[1:00:38] that's not really out there is to avoid

[1:00:42] that from happening because all that

[1:00:44] counts is getting people to clearly

[1:00:46] understand what we're we're doing. We're

[1:00:49] renewing this. here's what the value

[1:00:52] propositions everybody will share and

[1:00:54] there's regional equity and all of those

[1:00:56] things and that somebody votes for all

[1:00:59] those other entities

[1:01:01] we have to listen to them and go through

[1:01:03] them but we have to balance that and

[1:01:05] that's our job because we have to have

[1:01:08] something because we have to approve it

[1:01:10] ultimately the county says yeah you put

[1:01:11] on the ballot it has to be something

[1:01:13] that the voters will approve if we make

[1:01:16] all of our agencies happy and they're

[1:01:18] all they don't vote I mean they

[1:01:20] represent, you know, a raindrop

[1:01:23] relative to the voting population. So,

[1:01:26] it's really important. And I think what

[1:01:28] strategized here is that we recognized

[1:01:31] what we made mistakes last time. Not

[1:01:33] that there weren't great ideas and

[1:01:34] things, we just didn't get it

[1:01:35] communicated to the voters. So, this

[1:01:38] one, we should all remember that.

[1:01:39] Remember, the RTCPs are sitting right

[1:01:42] here. There are two of you from each

[1:01:44] RTCP.

[1:01:46] I'm the only one that reps. I represent

[1:01:48] the 19 cities. So we have that

[1:01:51] representation, we have that structure

[1:01:53] of how they do that, but we lost a

[1:01:56] little bit of the connection directly

[1:01:58] with the voters.

[1:02:00] So I think we have a strategy that is

[1:02:03] better focused this time and I think as

[1:02:06] a board I think we all get that. Um and

[1:02:10] I think some of those other entities

[1:02:13] realize what happened in the past. So I

[1:02:15] think our goals were all headed towards

[1:02:16] the same direction. There will be

[1:02:18] different ways. We need to make sure

[1:02:19] there's a little flexibility in the

[1:02:21] future. We were pretty tight this time.

[1:02:23] You can't do this, you can't do that

[1:02:25] because 25 years from now, I don't know

[1:02:27] what's going to be out there. Do we want

[1:02:29] to make it that oh, there shall only be

[1:02:31] this type of vehicle. There only should

[1:02:33] be, you know, you got to be careful in

[1:02:35] doing that. And I think that's a value

[1:02:37] proposition that we saw from the voters,

[1:02:39] you know, unless it's a call to cut

[1:02:41] tunnel. That's forever.

[1:02:43] But on some of these other things and

[1:02:44] the way with technology is moving, the

[1:02:47] voters need to hear that because they

[1:02:49] see it every day. So I think again we're

[1:02:52] headed the right direction. We have the

[1:02:54] right leadership. We have a consultant

[1:02:57] team that is really smart and again

[1:03:00] because they're not independently

[1:03:02] working against each other. They're all

[1:03:04] controlled by one entity. So the

[1:03:06] messaging, our board has to get to that

[1:03:09] point of having one clear strong message

[1:03:12] that shows that voter value proposition.

[1:03:14] Commissioner Noak.

[1:03:16] >> So I I don't want to be a

[1:03:19] » So I I don't want to be a

[1:03:19] pessimist or anything but

[1:03:22] >> but you are

[1:03:24] » but you are

[1:03:24] >> but I'm going to be just now only

[1:03:26] » but I'm going to be just now only

[1:03:26] because I want there to be enough

[1:03:27] flexibility and thought process because

[1:03:30] um I am hoping SB63 passes in November

[1:03:34] but to the extent it doesn't

[1:03:37] this measure could change drastically.

[1:03:40] >> Right. And so I just want everybody to

[1:03:42] » Right. And so I just want everybody to

[1:03:42] sort of be aware of this to not get so

[1:03:44] focused on what it's going

[1:03:45] [clears throat] to do because it may

[1:03:46] have to change based on what happens,

[1:03:51] you know, by this November. We will know

[1:03:54] one way or the other and that may change

[1:03:57] what we're looking at here. So I I don't

[1:04:00] think that was totally pessimistic, but

[1:04:02] it's it's just just a slight bit. You're

[1:04:04] laughing at me.

[1:04:06] >> Nine months a week.

[1:04:09] » Nine months a week.

[1:04:09] >> Yeah. So anyway, I just I just want to

[1:04:11] » Yeah. So anyway, I just I just want to

[1:04:11] make sure that we don't get so wed to

[1:04:14] certain ideas beforehand and then all of

[1:04:15] a sudden our world

[1:04:17] >> changes and and we're going to have to

[1:04:18] » changes and and we're going to have to

[1:04:18] rethink stuff. So

[1:04:20] >> any other comments or questions?

[1:04:26] » Sure.

[1:04:27] >> No.

[1:04:31] » Terry Han, do we have any public

[1:04:33] comments?

[1:04:35] >> We do not have any public comment.

[1:04:39] » We do not have any public comment.

[1:04:39] Okay. Do we have a motion?

[1:04:42] >> I'll make a motion.

[1:04:44] » I'll make a motion.

[1:04:44] >> Second. Terry, could you uh conduct roll

[1:04:47] » Second. Terry, could you uh conduct roll

[1:04:47] call vote, please?

[1:04:48] >> Sorry. Who was a second?

[1:04:51] » Sorry. Who was a second?

[1:04:51] >> Thank you.

[1:04:52] » Thank you.

[1:04:52] >> Commissioner Arnrich.

[1:04:54] » Commissioner Arnrich.

[1:04:54] >> Hi.

[1:04:55] » Hi.

[1:04:55] >> Commissioner Bernol,

[1:04:56] » Commissioner Bernol,

[1:04:56] >> yes.

[1:04:57] » yes.

[1:04:57] >> Commissioner Bergus,

[1:04:58] » Commissioner Bergus,

[1:04:58] >> yes.

[1:04:59] » yes.

[1:04:59] >> Commissioner Carlson,

[1:05:00] » Commissioner Carlson,

[1:05:00] >> yes.

[1:05:01] » yes.

[1:05:01] >> Commissioner Kelly,

[1:05:02] » Commissioner Kelly,

[1:05:02] >> yes.

[1:05:03] » yes.

[1:05:03] >> Commissioner Noak,

[1:05:04] » Commissioner Noak,

[1:05:04] >> yes.

[1:05:04] » yes.

[1:05:04] >> Commissioner O'Brier,

[1:05:05] » Commissioner O'Brier,

[1:05:05] >> yes. Commissioner Altstepper,

[1:05:08] » yes. Commissioner Altstepper,

[1:05:08] >> yes.

[1:05:08] » yes.

[1:05:08] >> Commissioner Xavier,

[1:05:09] » Commissioner Xavier,

[1:05:09] >> hi.

[1:05:10] » hi.

[1:05:10] >> Vice Chair G,

[1:05:11] » Vice Chair G,

[1:05:11] >> yes.

[1:05:11] » yes.

[1:05:11] >> Chair Meadows,

[1:05:12] » Chair Meadows,

[1:05:12] >> yes.

[1:05:13] » yes.

[1:05:13] >> Motion passes unanimously.

[1:05:14] » Motion passes unanimously.

[1:05:14] >> Thank you, Terry.

[1:05:18] » Thank you, Tim, for for uh presenting

[1:05:19] that. The next item is an action item

[1:05:21] from the planning committee to be

[1:05:23] presented by Matt Kelly seeking approval

[1:05:25] to transmit an annual urban limit line

[1:05:28] policy advisory letter to all Contraosta

[1:05:31] County jurisdictions.

[1:05:36] Thank you, Chair Meadows. Good evening,

[1:05:38] authority members. Matt Kelly, director

[1:05:40] of planning for the authority. Great to

[1:05:42] be here tonight. Um, as you know, I'm uh

[1:05:46] frequently up here kind of giving you

[1:05:48] guys uh some history on um aspects of

[1:05:52] Measure J. Um hopefully that uh helps

[1:05:55] inform what we were just talking about.

[1:05:58] um you know a new measure um learning

[1:06:00] about what we've what we did as part of

[1:06:02] measure J and how we can uh you know uh

[1:06:07] move that into the future. I think the

[1:06:09] urban limit line is one of the you know

[1:06:11] very important component of measure J.

[1:06:14] Um certainly had the voters's attention

[1:06:17] uh back in 2004. Um, so tonight I'm

[1:06:21] going to give you um the the item for

[1:06:25] approval on the on the agenda is our

[1:06:28] annual uh urban limit line policy

[1:06:30] advisory and the letter uh that we use

[1:06:33] to advise the jurisdictions about the

[1:06:35] UL, but I'll also be providing a short

[1:06:37] update on uh the county's um effort to

[1:06:41] update their urban limit line.

[1:06:45] So let's move through it. So, uh, just a

[1:06:49] little bit of history on on the urban

[1:06:51] limit line. Um, uh, so as you probably

[1:06:54] all know, we we started back in 1988

[1:06:57] with, uh, measure C, [clears throat] and

[1:07:00] that was our original sales tax. Um then

[1:07:04] in 1990

[1:07:06] uh the county enacted their measure C uh

[1:07:09] 20-year uh measure which um established

[1:07:13] the the 6535

[1:07:15] uh urban limit line which basically

[1:07:17] required that 65% of the county lands

[1:07:21] were to be preserved for agricultural

[1:07:24] uh non-urban uh uses that can be open

[1:07:27] space, parks, recreation,

[1:07:30] uh things like that. um non-urban uses.

[1:07:33] Um and then uh they established an urban

[1:07:36] limit line uh beyond

[1:07:40] which point uh no urban uses can be uh

[1:07:43] designated. Um

[1:07:46] so that uh that then fed into measure J

[1:07:51] which was uh adopted as I mentioned back

[1:07:53] in 2004 that extended measure C uh or a

[1:07:57] sales tax in contraosta for 25 years and

[1:08:00] we're approaching uh those 25 years in

[1:08:03] 2034 which is why we're talking about a

[1:08:05] TEP. Um, Measure J required

[1:08:09] uh that all 20 jurisdictions or at least

[1:08:12] the 19 other than the county uh comply

[1:08:15] with the principles and agreements of

[1:08:18] establishing the urban limit line in

[1:08:20] order to receive the 18 uh% of return to

[1:08:23] source funds plus two additional percent

[1:08:26] in certain parts of the county. So that

[1:08:28] is uh you know it you you have to have

[1:08:32] adopted an urban limit line to receive

[1:08:34] uh any return to source funds from

[1:08:36] measure J.

[1:08:39] Um then [clears throat]

[1:08:40] uh around the time uh uh a couple years

[1:08:45] later uh before measure J was actually

[1:08:47] implemented in 2009

[1:08:49] uh the county uh proposed measure L uh

[1:08:52] which extended that 6535 ordinance uh

[1:08:56] through 2026. Um and what um so it was a

[1:09:00] 30-year measure required four fifths

[1:09:03] vote of the board of supervisors. We've

[1:09:05] got two of them in here tonight. Um

[1:09:10] Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. Can't

[1:09:12] >> sorry, Commissioner Anderson. We have

[1:09:15] » sorry, Commissioner Anderson. We have

[1:09:15] >> We have a majority of the board of

[1:09:16] » We have a majority of the board of

[1:09:16] supervisors in the room tonight. Um

[1:09:20] though only two are technically

[1:09:22] representing I think the the board

[1:09:24] tonight. Um so um we will um so and and

[1:09:29] that was to approve any changes to the

[1:09:32] ulll of more than 30 acres. uh smaller

[1:09:36] changes were uh you know approved by by

[1:09:38] a vote of the board. Um it adopted a new

[1:09:42] uh new at the time urban limit line map

[1:09:46] uh which most of you are probably

[1:09:47] familiar with and I'll show you in just

[1:09:48] a second and uh established uh review

[1:09:52] procedures for uh when there is a

[1:09:55] proposed change to the urban limit line,

[1:09:57] what that review process looks like. Um

[1:10:00] and uh and and then there's an actual

[1:10:03] review of the measure itself uh which

[1:10:06] was done in 2016. There was a one-time

[1:10:09] uh review as part of measure L. And what

[1:10:11] that did is the county reviewed the

[1:10:13] measure for um its capacity to uh

[1:10:20] accommodate the planned growth for the

[1:10:22] county. So basically the county looked

[1:10:24] at the growth planned around the county

[1:10:25] and made sure that the current line

[1:10:28] could accommodate all of that growth

[1:10:30] both in population and jobs. And at the

[1:10:32] time 10 years ago they they um they

[1:10:35] confirmed that it would.

[1:10:38] So then uh measure J um as as the

[1:10:42] authority was um updating the growth

[1:10:45] management program for measure J uh the

[1:10:49] uh ULL requirement uh was was uh

[1:10:53] included in in measure J and required

[1:10:56] the cities to adopt each city to have

[1:10:59] adopt a voter approved UL uh by April of

[1:11:02] 2009 just a couple months ahead of uh

[1:11:06] the measure going live. Um, so that

[1:11:10] voter approved UL could look different

[1:11:13] in each jurisdiction. Uh, they could

[1:11:15] either approve a the the MAC UL, the

[1:11:18] mutually agreed upon countywide UL,

[1:11:21] which um wasn't chosen by our

[1:11:24] jurisdictions. Uh, what they most of

[1:11:27] them went with was the uh adopting the

[1:11:29] county's Measure Line.

[1:11:32] Um so 16 of our jurisdictions

[1:11:35] uh adopted that um under voter

[1:11:39] referendum uh or initiative. Um and

[1:11:43] three of our jurisdictions, Antioch,

[1:11:45] Pittsburgh and San Ramon adopted their

[1:11:48] own urban growth boundary. So we took

[1:11:51] those three those three individual lines

[1:11:53] and the uh county's line and kind of

[1:11:55] morphed them into uh this uh

[1:12:00] pinkish maroon uh form that you see

[1:12:03] there. And that's what we've uh what has

[1:12:06] basically remained unchanged since since

[1:12:09] that time.

[1:12:11] So every year because there's turnover

[1:12:13] at the cities, you know, city manager

[1:12:15] level and elected officials, uh we like

[1:12:17] to remind uh staff and electeds of their

[1:12:22] responsibilities as part of the GMP and

[1:12:25] the ULL requirement. Um so we send a

[1:12:28] letter. It's basically the same every

[1:12:31] year. It reminds each jurisdiction uh

[1:12:34] what their responsibilities are that

[1:12:37] when they are considering a change to

[1:12:39] the urban limit line that they should uh

[1:12:42] request an evaluation by the authority.

[1:12:44] Basically, you send us information of

[1:12:46] the project and have us make a

[1:12:48] determination on whether it meets the

[1:12:51] the requirements of the ulll or requires

[1:12:54] an adjustment. Um so the authority

[1:12:56] responds. Um in many cases the proponent

[1:13:00] will come to our planning committee um

[1:13:03] and present their case uh for the the

[1:13:06] planning committee to to hear.

[1:13:10] Um the criteria that is considered is

[1:13:12] whether or not the development uh lies

[1:13:15] with fully within the ulll. uh whether

[1:13:18] the development involves a nonsequential

[1:13:21] or non-ontiguous adjustment of 30 acres

[1:13:24] or less or does not involve an extension

[1:13:27] or expansion of urban services that be

[1:13:31] fire, sewer, water, things like that

[1:13:33] across the ul boundary. So if it meets

[1:13:36] uh those three then um then you know

[1:13:40] then it we determine that there is no

[1:13:43] ull issue.

[1:13:45] [clears throat]

[1:13:46] So that that's basically what the letter

[1:13:49] says. So it's just a reminder to

[1:13:51] everyone what their responsibilities

[1:13:53] are. Um and that is the the ask tonight

[1:13:57] that we recommend that you uh have staff

[1:14:00] issue the letter to all 20

[1:14:02] jurisdictions. However, um I'd also like

[1:14:05] to update you on what the county's been

[1:14:07] up to and they probably don't need a

[1:14:09] reminder uh this year because it's been

[1:14:12] uh front and center for them uh because

[1:14:14] as I mentioned earlier, the uh current

[1:14:17] measure LULL uh expires at the end of

[1:14:21] this year, December 31st. So last month

[1:14:24] the county uh supervisors uh voted uh to

[1:14:27] place uh an extension of measure L on

[1:14:31] the June 2nd ballot uh of this year. Uh

[1:14:34] what that would do is extend that 6535

[1:14:37] ordinance um through December 31st of

[1:14:42] 2011. So uh 25 years uh that uh

[1:14:47] maintains

[1:14:49] all all the requirements related to the

[1:14:51] expansion. the 30 uh acre rule. Um but

[1:14:56] what it also does um it provided a

[1:14:58] mechanism for uh an expansion of the

[1:15:02] Byron airport up to 500 acres or around

[1:15:05] 500 acres. Um and uh so that that is

[1:15:10] kind of built in but it does ensure that

[1:15:13] the development that goes on out there

[1:15:17] basically is is there to focus on

[1:15:19] economic development and viability of

[1:15:21] the airport. So it's a it would be a

[1:15:23] very focused expansion of the urban

[1:15:26] limit line. Um and there is already an

[1:15:29] urban limit line around the airport. It

[1:15:31] would just be allowed to be expanded.

[1:15:33] Um, so the it aligns ull reviews. So I

[1:15:37] believe there's two reviews built into

[1:15:38] this one. And it is instead of just

[1:15:41] saying we'll do it, you know, in uh, you

[1:15:43] know, at the 10-year mark, it's it's um,

[1:15:46] designed to be done around the Reena um,

[1:15:50] Reena updates and updates of each city's

[1:15:52] housing element. So there's some

[1:15:54] alignment there. Um and then um and then

[1:15:58] there's a new map that has been

[1:16:00] developed uh and the the county uh did a

[1:16:04] lot of work developing this new map.

[1:16:06] They did some trimming of of the urban

[1:16:10] limit line. Basically, they made sure it

[1:16:12] was matching up with existing

[1:16:15] boundaries, city boundaries, um creeks,

[1:16:18] other natural or or existing uh

[1:16:22] administrative boundaries. Um and that

[1:16:25] allowed them to um contract the UL by

[1:16:28] about 11,000 acres. Uh but there were

[1:16:31] also uh 1,600 acres of UL expansion and

[1:16:36] and most of that was really just to

[1:16:38] account for um those minor corrections

[1:16:42] but around the entirety of the county

[1:16:44] which you know equal the the 1,600

[1:16:47] acres. So it's it really is a

[1:16:49] contraction. Um this is a black and

[1:16:52] white version of of the new map. It

[1:16:54] really doesn't look any different than

[1:16:55] the old map. Uh maybe except for around

[1:16:59] the Byron airport. Um but they've given

[1:17:01] us a little inset there so you can see

[1:17:04] uh what that looks like.

[1:17:06] Um so that is my presentation. Um we're

[1:17:10] we're currently um working with legal on

[1:17:12] what you know um what the cities will

[1:17:15] need to do once the uh county's ul is uh

[1:17:21] extended assuming that that happens in

[1:17:23] June. Um just because each uh of the the

[1:17:27] 16 cities I mentioned uh do adopt that

[1:17:30] that uh urban limit line. So, we'll make

[1:17:33] sure we are equipped to uh advise the

[1:17:36] cities of anything they need to do uh to

[1:17:39] maintain uh consistency with that new

[1:17:42] urban limit line. Um but I can I'll

[1:17:46] remind you that the recommendation

[1:17:47] tonight is to issue that annual UL ul

[1:17:52] policy advisory letter, but I can take

[1:17:54] any questions on that or uh the county's

[1:17:57] measure. But we do have three experts in

[1:17:59] the room that could probably help me

[1:18:01] out.

[1:18:02] >> Thank you, Matt. Are there any comments

[1:18:04] » Thank you, Matt. Are there any comments

[1:18:04] or questions from the authority board?

[1:18:08] I would uh

[1:18:11] make a small comment to thank the county

[1:18:13] for all their work of making this

[1:18:15] adjustment. This used to be a very

[1:18:17] politically charged. It's it's well

[1:18:20] thought out. Um, and I absolutely

[1:18:24] support to send the letter out and get

[1:18:27] everybody's response.

[1:18:29] Any other comments?

[1:18:31] Is there any public comments?

[1:18:35] >> We have not received any public comment.

[1:18:39] » We have not received any public comment.

[1:18:39] >> Thank you. Is there a motion?

[1:18:42] » Thank you. Is there a motion?

[1:18:42] >> So moved. I'll second that motion.

[1:18:45] » So moved. I'll second that motion.

[1:18:45] >> First and second. Tianne, could you

[1:18:48] » First and second. Tianne, could you

[1:18:48] conduct roll call vote vote, please?

[1:18:50] Commissioner Arnrich.

[1:18:52] >> I.

[1:18:52] » I.

[1:18:52] >> Commissioner Bernal.

[1:18:53] » Commissioner Bernal.

[1:18:53] >> Yes.

[1:18:54] » Yes.

[1:18:54] >> Commissioner Bergus.

[1:18:55] » Commissioner Bergus.

[1:18:55] >> Yes.

[1:18:55] » Yes.

[1:18:55] >> Commissioner Carlson.

[1:18:56] » Commissioner Carlson.

[1:18:56] >> Yes.

[1:18:57] » Yes.

[1:18:57] >> Commissioner Kelly.

[1:18:58] » Commissioner Kelly.

[1:18:58] >> Yes.

[1:18:59] » Yes.

[1:18:59] >> Commissioner Noak.

[1:19:00] » Commissioner Noak.

[1:19:00] >> Yes.

[1:19:01] » Yes.

[1:19:01] >> Commissioner Obringer.

[1:19:02] » Commissioner Obringer.

[1:19:02] >> Yes.

[1:19:02] » Yes.

[1:19:02] >> Commissioner Altstepper.

[1:19:04] » Commissioner Altstepper.

[1:19:04] >> Yes.

[1:19:05] » Yes.

[1:19:05] >> Commissioner Xavier.

[1:19:06] » Commissioner Xavier.

[1:19:06] >> Hi.

[1:19:06] » Hi.

[1:19:06] >> Vice Chair G.

[1:19:07] » Vice Chair G.

[1:19:08] >> Yes.

[1:19:08] » Yes.

[1:19:08] >> Chair Meadows.

[1:19:09] » Chair Meadows.

[1:19:09] >> Yes.

[1:19:09] » Yes.

[1:19:09] >> Motion passes unanimously.

[1:19:11] » Motion passes unanimously.

[1:19:11] >> Thank you, Terry. That concludes our

[1:19:13] » Thank you, Terry. That concludes our

[1:19:13] regular calendar items.

[1:19:17] Item A, correspondence and

[1:19:19] communications. We have no

[1:19:20] correspondence in this agenda packet. Uh

[1:19:23] item nine, associated committee reports.

[1:19:26] Uh the next item is associated committee

[1:19:29] reports. We have meeting reports in the

[1:19:32] agenda packet from three of the RTPC's.

[1:19:36] Uh item 10, authority board and staff

[1:19:40] comments. Uh chair's comments.

[1:19:44] I I want to thank uh Commissioner

[1:19:46] Bernell for serving on CCTA. This is

[1:19:49] unfortunately his last meeting

[1:19:51] us. But thank you.

[1:19:54] [applause]

[1:20:01] » I have no other comments at this time.

[1:20:03] >> May I say something or is it not my

[1:20:06] » May I say something or is it not my

[1:20:06] turn?

[1:20:08] >> Uh item 10 A, Commissioners [laughter]

[1:20:11] » Uh item 10 A, Commissioners [laughter]

[1:20:11] and exofficial representatives comments

[1:20:13] and reports on activities and meetings.

[1:20:15] Commissioner Bernell.

[1:20:16] >> All right. Thank you. I'd just like to

[1:20:18] » All right. Thank you. I'd just like to

[1:20:18] um say it's been a pleasure to work with

[1:20:21] the board. I worked for so many years on

[1:20:22] the other side of the construction part

[1:20:24] of it and hundreds of millions of

[1:20:26] dollars spent in East Contraosta County

[1:20:28] and seeing how that worked and so being

[1:20:30] here with uh with you all as a policy

[1:20:33] maker has been really eye opening and uh

[1:20:36] this is really important work and I have

[1:20:39] a a new appreciation for what we need to

[1:20:41] do to make sure that we're successful

[1:20:43] moving forward um as uh as CCTA. Also

[1:20:47] just want to say super impressed with um

[1:20:50] Tim and with the team that he has here.

[1:20:53] I mean it's it's A+ level the reports,

[1:20:57] the the expertise and so um we're in

[1:21:00] really good hands in that regard and

[1:21:02] super excited about that. And I also

[1:21:05] just want to say that um love the new

[1:21:07] branding and uh wish I would have stayed

[1:21:10] around long enough to get more swag but

[1:21:12] um have to try to you know get that off

[1:21:15] of some of you guys. But thank you very

[1:21:16] much for just letting me be a part of

[1:21:18] this.

[1:21:19] >> Thank you. Thank you. [applause]

[1:21:24] » Commissioner Kelly.

[1:21:26] >> Oh, we're at board comments. Is that

[1:21:28] » Oh, we're at board comments. Is that

[1:21:28] right? Yeah. So, I just want to report

[1:21:30] on something. Last week, um Candace

[1:21:33] Anderson and I were part of East Bay

[1:21:34] Economic Development Alliance tour of

[1:21:37] the Zuk's manufacturing facility off

[1:21:40] Highway 92 down in Hayward. Um, and it's

[1:21:43] in an old um, uh, Gillig bus uh,

[1:21:46] facility. They Gillig moved out, went to

[1:21:48] Liverour. So, Zuks took it over. It's

[1:21:51] pretty amazing. Two to 300, maybe 400

[1:21:54] square feet, thousand square feet. It's

[1:21:56] huge. Absolutely huge. Racks of all

[1:21:58] kinds of equipment. They have the uh,

[1:22:01] they have 21 stations where they can

[1:22:03] build the Zuks robo taxis with 65

[1:22:05] people. There's robotic elements that

[1:22:08] will lift the heavy parts. And get this,

[1:22:11] they can build when they're up and

[1:22:13] running completely, 5,000 to 10,000 robo

[1:22:16] taxis a year, one every 20 minutes, and

[1:22:19] that includes testing. So, I was really,

[1:22:21] really impressed. And having ridden on

[1:22:24] one of the robo taxis in San Francisco

[1:22:26] this past November, it was just an

[1:22:28] amazing an amazing experience. So, you

[1:22:31] all can sign up to go and take a test

[1:22:33] ride for free in San Francisco. Go to

[1:22:36] the Zuk site. And I talked to the

[1:22:38] government affairs people a little bit

[1:22:40] and one of the things I said was, you

[1:22:42] know, maybe in years to come as they

[1:22:44] ramp up, um, there might be

[1:22:46] opportunities for public agencies to

[1:22:48] partner with them or contract with them

[1:22:50] or use a license to bring something to

[1:22:53] their areas geoenced for first mile,

[1:22:56] last mile to try and solve some of the

[1:22:58] transportation problems that we have

[1:23:00] here. So, uh, stay tuned.

[1:23:03] Commissioner Stepper.

[1:23:05] >> Oh, so

[1:23:07] » Oh, so

[1:23:07] >> never mind.

[1:23:10] » never mind.

[1:23:10] Any other commissioner comments?

[1:23:13] You're a representative.

[1:23:16] >> We're waiting for represent.

[1:23:18] » We're waiting for represent.

[1:23:18] >> I thought you'd already been I thought

[1:23:20] » I thought you'd already been I thought

[1:23:20] you'd already been making comments the

[1:23:21] whole meeting.

[1:23:23] >> Any comments from representatives?

[1:23:27] [clears throat]

[1:23:28] >> Representative

[1:23:29] » Representative

[1:23:29] >> Ren. All right. Thank you. It's great to

[1:23:32] » Ren. All right. Thank you. It's great to

[1:23:32] be here. Good to be back. Uh, alternate

[1:23:34] exeicio board of director Bart person

[1:23:37] [laughter] Matt Red here.

[1:23:39] >> I am running out of titles there, but I

[1:23:41] » I am running out of titles there, but I

[1:23:41] happy to be here

[1:23:44] >> of Pleasant Hill with these two

[1:23:46] » of Pleasant Hill with these two

[1:23:46] >> these two knuckleheads over here. But

[1:23:47] » these two knuckleheads over here. But

[1:23:47] anyways, it's a honor to be here and uh

[1:23:51] good things are happening at BART. Just

[1:23:53] wanted to share uh as we close out 2025.

[1:23:56] Uh we installed all the new fairgates.

[1:23:58] Uh the last thing we did was implement

[1:24:00] the tap to ride which is turning out to

[1:24:02] be a great success. Uh anytime you roll

[1:24:03] out a massive software upgrade like

[1:24:06] that, there's a couple little hiccups,

[1:24:07] but we've kind of worked through most of

[1:24:08] those. We have a few reiterations coming

[1:24:10] down the road. And what that is is for

[1:24:12] those uh who may not know, uh you not

[1:24:14] necessarily need a Clipper card anymore.

[1:24:16] You can just if you're flying into SFO

[1:24:17] or Oakland or something, you can just

[1:24:18] tap a credit card, jump on BART, jump

[1:24:21] off tap it, and get out of the system.

[1:24:23] So a lot more convenient for people.

[1:24:24] We're about 13% tap ratio right now. um

[1:24:28] on those. Uh so we're really excited

[1:24:30] about that. And then yesterday uh many

[1:24:32] of you saw the announcement that BART

[1:24:34] has done a pilot program with Uber and

[1:24:37] we're in negotiations with other TNC

[1:24:39] carriers. So those that uh you know want

[1:24:41] to vote for their favorite TNC carrier.

[1:24:43] There are discussions about those. But

[1:24:44] this pilot program uh through the BART

[1:24:47] app, you will be able to coordinate an

[1:24:49] Uber pickup um or delivery to the

[1:24:51] station. It's all coordinated timing of

[1:24:53] the trains uh the technology behind it.

[1:24:56] Uh part of pickle to Contraosta County

[1:24:59] is BART is offering a $5 diff discount

[1:25:02] uh at the Antioch contra conquered

[1:25:04] station uh Walnut Creek and Richmond uh

[1:25:08] for those those stations.

[1:25:10] >> That's that's the new station.

[1:25:12] » That's that's the new station.

[1:25:12] >> The new

[1:25:13] » The new

[1:25:13] the one I represent half of [laughter]

[1:25:16] >> Do you mean do you mean

[1:25:18] » Do you mean do you mean

[1:25:18] >> and Conquered Station?

[1:25:20] » and Conquered Station?

[1:25:20] >> All those two. Okay.

[1:25:21] » All those two. Okay.

[1:25:21] >> Okay. Those four. I'm sorry. I should

[1:25:22] » Okay. Those four. I'm sorry. I should

[1:25:22] have paused and entered the comment. I

[1:25:24] was just so excited to talk. I just

[1:25:25] ramble some. And then uh also on that uh

[1:25:29] through the BART app uh if you've ever

[1:25:31] used the trip planner feature continues

[1:25:33] to include walking biking options as

[1:25:36] well as other transit bike share,

[1:25:38] scooter share options for getting to and

[1:25:40] from BART stations. Riders can also uh

[1:25:43] customize preferences such as walking,

[1:25:46] biking speeds, or planning their trips.

[1:25:48] to enhance regional transport transit

[1:25:50] coordination. BART's trip planner

[1:25:52] includes schedules for regional rail

[1:25:54] services such as Cal Train, Capital

[1:25:56] Corridor, ACE, as well as buses,

[1:25:59] fairies, and even cable cars. So, just

[1:26:01] wanted to let you know we are continuing

[1:26:04] to innovate and drive transportation.

[1:26:06] >> Thank you, Representative Brand.

[1:26:07] » Thank you, Representative Brand.

[1:26:07] >> Thank you for your time.

[1:26:08] » Thank you for your time.

[1:26:08] >> Before we move on to Representative

[1:26:09] » Before we move on to Representative

[1:26:09] Noak, I'm just glad to see you all from

[1:26:11] Pleasant Hill get along so well.

[1:26:14] >> You like each other so much. It's

[1:26:16] » You like each other so much. It's

[1:26:16] actually posted on Facebook already.

[1:26:19] >> He did call them knuckleheads.

[1:26:21] » He did call them knuckleheads.

[1:26:21] >> I believe it is already posted on

[1:26:22] » I believe it is already posted on

[1:26:22] Facebook. I believe you

[1:26:23] >> or it didn't happen.

[1:26:24] » or it didn't happen.

[1:26:24] >> It did already happen. Yeah.

[1:26:25] » It did already happen. Yeah.

[1:26:25] >> Representative Noak.

[1:26:28] » Representative Noak.

[1:26:28] >> Yeah. Thank you. I'm one of the three

[1:26:29] » Yeah. Thank you. I'm one of the three

[1:26:29] knuckleheads from Pleasant Hill. Um

[1:26:32] still on Pleasant Hill. You two left. Um

[1:26:37] okay. Uh uh yeah, MTC. Sorry, switching

[1:26:41] hats. Um,

[1:26:44] for those of you that are interested in

[1:26:46] the TOC policy

[1:26:48] item,

[1:26:50] uh, part of it will come up next week on

[1:26:54] Wednesday. Uh, and then the second half

[1:26:57] will come in February. First half being

[1:27:00] the allocation of the money between the

[1:27:02] county and the region and how the

[1:27:04] SP12500 million that has to come out of

[1:27:07] that money is being split. Um and then

[1:27:10] monies that might be set aside for a TOC

[1:27:12] incentive program. That that piece is

[1:27:15] going to be voted on next week and then

[1:27:18] the following the following month it

[1:27:20] will be more details of changes to the

[1:27:23] TOC policy as it stands currently. So um

[1:27:29] those a lot of cities are concerned

[1:27:31] about this but a lot of things will get

[1:27:33] squared away and voted on this month and

[1:27:35] next month on the TOC. Uh, and that's

[1:27:38] probably about it. You don't need to

[1:27:40] hear Well, oh, one other thing. Um,

[1:27:42] signatures are starting to be gathered

[1:27:44] for the citizens initiative. Um,

[1:27:48] kickoff is on Friday, uh, at Pleasant

[1:27:51] Hill BART. I understand there are people

[1:27:54] according to Rita. Rita saw them today.

[1:27:57] They're on BART taking, uh, getting

[1:27:59] signatures, but the big kickoff is on

[1:28:01] Friday at five different locations. Um,

[1:28:03] Pleasant Hill BART is uh the Contraosta

[1:28:06] location and that's at 12:30 on Friday,

[1:28:09] right? Yeah. Okay,

[1:28:17] Tim, please provide your report.

[1:28:20] Thank you very much, Chair Meadows, and

[1:28:22] everyone. Um, just my report's actually

[1:28:25] very short today tonight. Um, couple

[1:28:28] things in terms of housekeeping. So, one

[1:28:30] of the things I want to kind of get your

[1:28:32] attention on is we did uh change our

[1:28:35] domain. So, if you might be noticing,

[1:28:38] we're now ccta.ca.gov

[1:28:41] and we moved away from ccda.net. So,

[1:28:44] when you look at our website, it is now

[1:28:45] ccta.ca.gov. We did that on purpose,

[1:28:48] intentionally because it obviously

[1:28:50] better aligns with our mission and

[1:28:52] purpose in terms of being a government

[1:28:53] agency. it's easier to find now CCTA,

[1:28:56] you know, on the internet when people

[1:28:58] are searching, etc. And so it was a very

[1:29:01] kind of important change to kind of

[1:29:03] support, you know, our identity um in

[1:29:05] the digital world um in terms of how

[1:29:07] people find us in search um in this new

[1:29:10] this new world. So we we supported that

[1:29:12] change. All the email addresses um have

[1:29:14] been changed. Um our website's been

[1:29:16] changed, etc. So just want to bring that

[1:29:18] to everyone's attention. Kind of a

[1:29:19] little bit of a housekeeping item. And

[1:29:21] then some of the exciting things that

[1:29:23] have kind of happened since the

[1:29:25] holidays. Um, you know, Ryan and team

[1:29:28] have worked really hard on this

[1:29:30] broadband grant. Um, and so we were I

[1:29:33] sent an email to all of you, but we were

[1:29:35] successful in terms of getting the 15

[1:29:37] million from the California Public

[1:29:38] Utility Commission for the two broadband

[1:29:41] both the wet the the east county and the

[1:29:43] west county um projects. And it's a very

[1:29:46] long drawn out process. Um it's I think

[1:29:49] we must have amended the application

[1:29:50] like 16 17 18 times because the way CPU

[1:29:55] approaches it is they put it out for

[1:29:56] public review and then the other

[1:29:58] existing telecom companies are actually

[1:30:00] able to review and provide comment and

[1:30:03] and protest you know because it's

[1:30:05] competition essent essentially. Um and

[1:30:08] so they uh we so the project based on

[1:30:12] what we submitted and what actually got

[1:30:13] awarded. There were some tweaks along

[1:30:15] the way, you know, but generally the

[1:30:18] program is basically focused on

[1:30:20] providing underserved communities in

[1:30:22] East County and in West County. And when

[1:30:24] we talk about underserved, these are

[1:30:26] folks that have, you know, less than,

[1:30:28] you know, I think what 100 megabytes, I

[1:30:31] think, right, Ryan? 100 megabytes. So

[1:30:33] these are people that have less than 100

[1:30:34] megabytes of internet access. That's

[1:30:36] what underserved is like kind of um

[1:30:39] defined as. So, we're excited to get

[1:30:41] that grant. We're officially in the

[1:30:42] broadband business and so we believe be

[1:30:44] moving to procurement um and working

[1:30:46] with the county and working with those

[1:30:48] cities and those jurisdictions um and

[1:30:50] initiate, you know, initiating and

[1:30:52] implementing that project. The second

[1:30:54] award that we got was a safe streets for

[1:30:57] all grant. Um and I'm going to kind of

[1:31:00] talk a little bit about this in terms of

[1:31:01] DC and kind of the lay of the land, but

[1:31:03] Safe Streets for All is interesting. And

[1:31:05] it's always been like a bike pedestrian

[1:31:07] safety program. And this administration

[1:31:10] has been obviously realigning and and

[1:31:13] kind of resetting priorities for a lot

[1:31:15] of these discretionary grant programs.

[1:31:17] And we actually were awarded um an

[1:31:20] autonomous vehicle communications uh

[1:31:22] grant um out of out of this SS4A grant.

[1:31:26] It's for about just over $3 million. And

[1:31:30] the purpose of the grant is to really

[1:31:32] just uh do a pilot to communicate to

[1:31:36] emergency vehicles with autonomous and

[1:31:38] connected vehicles. So really kind of

[1:31:40] working towards some of the challenges

[1:31:42] that Whimo and crews have had in San

[1:31:44] Francisco with emergency vehicles. And

[1:31:46] so what the project does is once there

[1:31:49] is an incident identified whether it be

[1:31:51] on a highway or a fire the system

[1:31:54] automatically puts a geoence around that

[1:31:57] location and communicates that to all

[1:31:58] the connected autonomous vehicles. So

[1:32:00] that way all the connected Thomas

[1:32:01] vehicles know there's an emergency

[1:32:04] incident occurring you know at this

[1:32:06] location. The next thing is once a

[1:32:08] vehicle's dispatched, police, you know,

[1:32:10] sheriff, fire, we put a moving geoence

[1:32:14] on it and basically that so basically

[1:32:17] the connected Thomas vehicles know where

[1:32:18] that emergency vehicle is in this in the

[1:32:21] network being dispatched to the

[1:32:24] incident. And so, um, this has never

[1:32:27] been done before. Um, when we were in DC

[1:32:30] last week for Transportation Research

[1:32:31] Board, there was an extreme amount of

[1:32:33] buzz around this grant. I specifically

[1:32:35] had emails from the secretary office

[1:32:37] saying that we want to be briefed on

[1:32:39] this grant when you come to DC next

[1:32:40] week. And so um so we were very excited

[1:32:44] about this award. And I will tell you um

[1:32:47] you know in this in these meetings in DC

[1:32:50] both on the policy side which we met

[1:32:52] with Lauren Smith as well on the

[1:32:54] research side we met with Lee White.

[1:32:57] both on both sides of the house. Um

[1:33:00] there's a tremendous amount of interest

[1:33:02] with autonomous vehicles and autonomous

[1:33:04] shuttles. Um when you look at the

[1:33:06] leadership there based with Jonathan

[1:33:08] Morrison, he came from Apple. Seville Oz

[1:33:11] came from um oh my god, but she came

[1:33:13] from the from Silicon Valley. Um Lee

[1:33:16] White came from too simple which is a

[1:33:18] freight autonomous vehicle company. So

[1:33:19] there's a lot of expertise in the

[1:33:22] secretary's office right now surround

[1:33:24] that have autonomous vehicle background

[1:33:26] and they are very focused on how to

[1:33:29] scale and deploy not just Whimo but very

[1:33:32] focused on how to scale and deploy these

[1:33:34] autonomous shuttles um to really support

[1:33:38] public transit and public

[1:33:39] transportation. So there was a there was

[1:33:41] a lot of discussions um and a lot of

[1:33:44] questions on our automated driving

[1:33:46] system grant because we did the

[1:33:48] deployment in Rossmore and Bishop branch

[1:33:50] as well as with county connection on the

[1:33:52] main mobility project and there was a

[1:33:54] lot of interest in terms of how those

[1:33:56] projects were deployed, what did we

[1:33:58] learn from them and how do we plan to

[1:33:59] scale. So, um, we did learn in terms of

[1:34:03] like future discretionary grant

[1:34:04] programs, there will be set aides and

[1:34:08] focus programs directed towards

[1:34:11] autonomous and connected vehicles. Um,

[1:34:14] the smart program is going to be coming

[1:34:15] out that's going to have an autonomous

[1:34:16] vehicle set aside in it. Um, and then

[1:34:19] also build is also out now which will

[1:34:22] have an autonomous vehicle component.

[1:34:23] Um, and then the other one is attain

[1:34:26] which will also have a technology

[1:34:28] autonomous vehicle component. So um as

[1:34:30] you are very aware obviously we're very

[1:34:32] well positioned. We are very considered

[1:34:35] much we're very much considered a leader

[1:34:38] in this space. I mean it's and so um we

[1:34:40] were able to meet all of most of

[1:34:43] everyone in the secretary's office in DC

[1:34:45] and that was very intentional. Number

[1:34:47] one, we talked about the mega grant um

[1:34:49] and all signs were positive on the mega

[1:34:52] grant from the secretary's office. And

[1:34:55] then number two, um, we talked about

[1:34:57] future grant opportunities and we wanted

[1:34:59] to learn more about their priorities,

[1:35:00] which I've kind of have described to

[1:35:02] you. So, um, interesting enough, they

[1:35:05] want a they wanted a shuttle so bad they

[1:35:08] deployed one in Washington DC, and it's

[1:35:10] the first one in DC ever. And

[1:35:13] interesting enough, they're actually

[1:35:14] doing it with one of our partners with

[1:35:15] Beep as well as um, Carson and Addest,

[1:35:19] which is the EJS. and we had the eje at

[1:35:21] Gmentum Station um about 3 or 4 months

[1:35:24] ago. It's a small little mini bus um and

[1:35:29] and so anyway, so it's interesting that

[1:35:31] they're, you know, learning from the

[1:35:33] partners that we've been working with

[1:35:34] relative to the projects that we've been

[1:35:36] doing. So um so there's a lot of

[1:35:38] interest there. The team was in strong

[1:35:40] force at TRB. Um Lindy gave a po gave a

[1:35:44] poster session. Um Danielle was on an AI

[1:35:47] panel. Um and we attended num numerous

[1:35:50] sessions. Um obviously lots of

[1:35:52] networking, very very valuable, an

[1:35:54] intense uh three days, four days in DC

[1:35:57] in terms of um you know kind of really

[1:36:00] continuing to elevate CCTA's presence

[1:36:02] there with the with the new

[1:36:03] administration. Um

[1:36:06] really quick on the other side of the of

[1:36:08] the house here, um the other thing I

[1:36:11] wanted to kind of talk about is speaking

[1:36:13] about innovation is the redefining

[1:36:15] mobility summit. So, I know you should

[1:36:18] have gotten calendar invites. So, that

[1:36:20] has been saved the date for June 16th.

[1:36:23] Um, as well as a demonstration day on

[1:36:25] June 17th. And for those of you that are

[1:36:28] interested, um, and willing to

[1:36:30] participate, um, I encourage you to set

[1:36:33] aside uh time throughout the entire

[1:36:35] week, and I'll explain why. Um, we have

[1:36:37] a a a delegation coming from the

[1:36:40] Netherlands for that entire week. Um,

[1:36:43] and the state of California and CCTA are

[1:36:46] hosting that mission. So, we will have

[1:36:49] the equivalent of the governor from the

[1:36:51] province of North Holland, which is

[1:36:52] called the King's Commissioner, as well

[1:36:54] as the Secretary of Transportation from

[1:36:56] the province of North Holland, as well

[1:36:58] as 35 of his other partners and

[1:37:00] colleagues coming to Contraosta County.

[1:37:03] Um, and the entire program is focused

[1:37:06] around air mobility. And so um so there

[1:37:10] will be uh Monday will be hosted in

[1:37:12] Sacramento with governor's office and

[1:37:14] and policy makers from the governor's

[1:37:16] office around this topic and and also

[1:37:18] around smart mobility. Um and the

[1:37:21] Netherlands call it it's air mobility

[1:37:22] and smart mobility. So still autonomous

[1:37:24] connected intelligent transportation

[1:37:26] system etc. Tuesday is RMS, Wednesday is

[1:37:29] a demo day. The demo day is going to

[1:37:32] include Byron Airport. Um, and we're

[1:37:36] going to be seeing demonstrations from

[1:37:38] Elroy Air as well as Mighty Fly. And

[1:37:41] then we're going to be going all the way

[1:37:42] out to Richmond to go see Glideways. Um,

[1:37:45] and then Thursday is going to be a a

[1:37:48] demonstration by NASA down in Mountain

[1:37:50] View as part of the overall tour. And

[1:37:52] then Friday, we're going to Monterey to

[1:37:53] the drone automation research technology

[1:37:55] to see Joby in action um down there on

[1:37:58] Friday. So, um, high obviously all of

[1:38:02] that is open to all of you and I've

[1:38:04] asked staff to make sure we get this on

[1:38:05] everyone's calendars and holds, etc. to

[1:38:08] make sure that if you want to

[1:38:09] participate, um, you know, you're

[1:38:11] welcome to participate in any way that

[1:38:12] you want. Um, and because of air

[1:38:15] mobility, we are considering moving RMS

[1:38:20] to um to conquer. And so we're going to

[1:38:24] be having the summit in conquered and

[1:38:26] we're kind of looking at venues and

[1:38:27] trying so we will confirm and confirm

[1:38:29] that with all of you. Um and so and it's

[1:38:32] also the demonstration zone will be

[1:38:35] potentially at Buchanan airport and so

[1:38:38] and the idea is to kind of really

[1:38:40] showcase what we're doing with airports

[1:38:41] and everything in Contraost County since

[1:38:43] it will be like an air mobility mission

[1:38:45] and and the important thing about this

[1:38:46] is that you're going to have very highly

[1:38:49] high representatives from the state of

[1:38:51] California coming. So you'll have folks

[1:38:52] from the governor's office. You'll have

[1:38:54] folks from CALR and the sec and the

[1:38:56] California uh secretary of

[1:38:57] transportation's office um as well as

[1:39:00] you know people from the Bay Area etc.

[1:39:02] So it's going to be a really great week,

[1:39:04] great event showcasing Contraosta County

[1:39:07] and all the innovations happening in

[1:39:08] Contraosta County. So um so we'll get

[1:39:10] those get all that information you know

[1:39:12] out to everyone. So I think that was

[1:39:16] everything on my list. Um oh sec last

[1:39:19] thing sorry. So just want to confirm

[1:39:21] it's in the it's in the staff report or

[1:39:23] the executive reg report but December

[1:39:24] 31st the main mobility project has come

[1:39:27] to an end. So we are we are not

[1:39:29] operating autonomous shuttles right now.

[1:39:31] They're all done and complete. So, we

[1:39:34] are in the program evaluation mode

[1:39:36] collecting data and so we will bring

[1:39:38] back to the board sometime in the spring

[1:39:41] um a whole overview in terms of the

[1:39:44] goals, the data, what we've learned and

[1:39:47] all those things in terms of also what

[1:39:49] we're hearing from the National Highway

[1:39:50] Traffic Safet Administration and

[1:39:52] recapping a lot of what we heard in DC

[1:39:55] um and really kind of showing how we're

[1:39:56] kind of targeting for the future um

[1:39:59] around this around the autonomous

[1:40:00] vehicles and and and how to scale and

[1:40:02] deploy in Contra Costa County. So, so

[1:40:05] that'll be a presentation coming. So,

[1:40:08] that's it. Thank you,

[1:40:09] >> Chairman. Thank you, Tim.

[1:40:10] » Chairman. Thank you, Tim.

[1:40:10] >> Item 11, uh, calendar. The calendars

[1:40:13] » Item 11, uh, calendar. The calendars

[1:40:13] were included in the packet.

[1:40:15] Item 12, adjournment. That concludes our

[1:40:18] meeting. This meeting is adjourned at

[1:40:21] 7:42

[1:40:23] p.m.

Authority Board Meeting - 01/21/2026

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