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[6:17]
all right, good morning.
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>> I will now call the city
[6:20]
council meeting of Monday MARCH
[6:21]
2nd, 2026 to order.
[6:22]
>> Please call the roll.
[6:22]
Thank you.
[6:24]
Council PRESIDENT Council
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member Campbell.
[6:34]
Councilmember Whitburn Council
[6:35]
Member Foster Dear Council
[6:39]
Member Ron Wilber Council
[6:40]
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[6:41]
Councilmember Campo COUNCILMAN
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Moreno Present Councilmember
[6:46]
Eli Rivera and Council
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PRESIDENT Look, I can also
[6:48]
thank the meeting our city
[6:52]
Attorney Heather Ferber,
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independent budget analyst
[6:54]
Carlos Monica and myself, your
[6:54]
city clerk Diana Fuentes.
[6:58]
All right, Thank you, City
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clerk.
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A quorum is now present.
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We will begin this morning with
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an invocation by Clark Winters
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followed with
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the acknowledgment and
[7:05]
the Pledge of Allegiance let by
[7:09]
council member Foster Grant
[7:10]
those who hold office in
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the city the spirit of wisdom,
[7:11]
charity and justice that was
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steadfast purpose.
[7:16]
They MAY faithfully serve in
[7:17]
their offices to promote
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the well-being of our people.
[7:22]
We respectfully acknowledge
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that the culmination or
[7:28]
the original inhabitants of
[7:29]
the Unceded land now known as
[7:29]
San Diego despite enduring
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the horrors of genocide and
[7:34]
colonization, the Kumbayah
[7:35]
spirit remains unbroken.
[7:36]
We honor the resilience of
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their ancestors who fought to
[7:41]
protect their culture and land.
[7:42]
Today they carry their legacy
[7:45]
forward ensuring that their
[7:46]
traditions continue to thrive
[7:47]
in gratitude and strength.
[7:47]
We stand with the culmination
[7:53]
connected to our past and
[7:54]
committed to a thriving future.
[7:54]
Please face the flag hand over
[7:58]
your heart and begin.
[7:59]
I pledge allegiance to the flag
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of the United States of America
[8:04]
and to the Republic for which
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it stands One nation under GOD
[8:08]
indivisible with liberty and
[8:08]
justice for all.
[8:21]
So please remember how
[8:22]
the public can offer their
[8:22]
testimony.
[8:23]
Thank you.
[8:23]
Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
[8:24]
highlight the site on
[8:25]
the screen That would be to
[8:27]
tell the public enough for
[8:28]
their public testimony during
[8:28]
today's meeting.
[8:29]
If you are in person please
[8:29]
complete.
[8:30]
The speaker spoke at
[8:33]
the entrance of Chambers and
[8:33]
bring it to the front of
[8:34]
the room.
[8:34]
No further in-person testimony
[8:35]
will be taken once the Council
[8:38]
begins Virtual testimony for
[8:39]
better meeting measure purposes
[8:39]
each we will have one minute
[8:40]
per item per person for a
[8:46]
maximum of three minutes if
[8:46]
three or more items are on
[8:47]
the agenda.
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I think that's everything.
[8:48]
All right.
[8:48]
Thank you.
[8:50]
With that please read the close
[8:50]
session items into the record
[8:51]
and proceed with public
[8:51]
comment.
[8:52]
Thank you.
[8:52]
Conference with Legal Counsel
[8:56]
Existing Litigation Present
[8:57]
California Government Code
[8:57]
Section 5495 6.91 sec one.
[9:02]
Maria Natalie Brazil versus
[9:03]
City of San Diego.
[9:03]
Conference of Labor Negotiators
[9:04]
Present California Government
[9:07]
Code Section 54957.6.
[9:08]
If he has two city designated
[9:09]
management team representative
[9:13]
the purpose of this concession
[9:14]
meeting is to review the city's
[9:14]
position and instruct
[9:15]
the city's designated
[9:16]
representatives regarding meet
[9:19]
and confer negotiations for
[9:20]
successful Memorandum of
[9:20]
Understanding Surrealism
[9:21]
Employee Association American
[9:24]
Federation of State County and
[9:25]
Municipal Employees Local 127
[9:26]
Deputy City Attorney
[9:26]
Association of San Diego San
[9:32]
Diego City Firefighters iaf at
[9:32]
Local 145 California Teamsters
[9:36]
Local 986 Anti-illegal Police
[9:37]
Officers Association.
[9:37]
If you like to speak to these
[9:38]
items please be sure to submit
[9:42]
a Speaker's up to the front of
[9:42]
the room If you're
[9:43]
participating virtually now's
[9:44]
the time to raise your hand.
[9:44]
There are no speakers here in
[9:47]
council chambers going to those
[9:48]
participating virtually.
[9:51]
I started the five minute timer
[9:52]
from number 80 ending in 8700.
[9:53]
If you can please email and let
[9:53]
me know which item or items you
[9:58]
wish to speak to a Thank you
[10:03]
one and two but you'll have two
[10:03]
minutes.
[10:04]
Please proceed.
[10:04]
Thank you.
[10:08]
Join me at a cd three for one
[10:12]
trip And while I was wanting
[10:13]
one of you to pull item in city
[10:14]
attorney's office would provide
[10:18]
statics and seek direction.
[10:19]
This must have been a very
[10:20]
serious trip and fall You have
[10:23]
happened over seven years ago.
[10:24]
If perhaps there are
[10:25]
extenuating circumstances I
[10:30]
would really like to know what
[10:30]
is caused delay and settle this
[10:33]
litigation for all these years
[10:40]
To all you labor negotiations I
[10:41]
want you to know that I rewrote
[10:45]
and rewrote and rewrote my
[10:46]
comment for the item three
[10:46]
times.
[10:47]
I just couldn't do it.
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I finally this morning I
[10:51]
decided to just speak from my
[10:55]
heart So I'll say this every
[10:56]
single table I invite all of
[11:02]
you present to step out of your
[11:02]
role and become a family member
[11:06]
sitting together at kitchen
[11:07]
table to figure out how to
[11:13]
balance the family budget.
[11:13]
Is there an opportunity to cut
[11:18]
the budget pie that's fair to
[11:19]
all.
[11:19]
Thank you so much for
[11:20]
listening.
[11:20]
Have a beautiful day.
[11:21]
A beautiful week.
[11:23]
Love you all.
[11:24]
Thank you.
[11:24]
That does include public
[11:25]
comment on the closed session
[11:25]
agenda.
[11:26]
Thank you.
[11:29]
Council PRESIDENT.
[11:29]
All right.
[11:29]
Thank you.
[11:30]
With that we will now recess
[11:31]
into closed session and
[11:32]
reconvene council today at 2
[23:09]
P.M. Or shortly thereafter
[25:09]
and
[27:23]
then
[27:24]
.
[27:24]
All right.
[27:25]
Good afternoon.
[27:28]
I will now reconvene the city
[27:29]
council meeting of Monday MARCH
[27:29]
2nd, 2026.
[27:33]
Clerk Please call the roll.
[27:33]
>> Thank you.
[27:34]
Council PRESIDENT Council
[27:35]
Member Campbell here Council
[27:35]
Member Whitburn here Council
[27:39]
member Foster Council Member
[27:40]
Von Wilpert Council PRESIDENT
[27:43]
Pro Timely Hear Council Member
[27:44]
Campion Council Member Moreno
[27:48]
Present Council member Ella
[27:49]
Rivera and Council PRESIDENT
[27:53]
LaCava also attend the meeting
[27:54]
Our Assistant City Attorney
[27:54]
Michelle Garland Independent
[27:57]
budget analyst Charles Monica
[27:58]
Advisor in the Mayor's office.
[28:02]
MR. Wilde and myself your city
[28:03]
clerk Diana Fuentes.
[28:03]
Thank you.
[28:04]
All right.
[28:07]
Thank you MADAM City Clerk
[28:07]
Quorum is now present so we'll
[28:08]
start off first by asking if
[28:12]
there's any comments from
[28:13]
the mayor's office from city
[28:13]
council member, city attorney,
[28:16]
independent budget analyst or
[28:17]
the city clerk and we see
[28:18]
the city clerk cards comments I
[28:21]
just wanted to give a quick
[28:22]
update that we are going to be
[28:25]
ending our community engagement
[28:26]
survey at the end of this week.
[28:27]
There is a qr code during our
[28:30]
present during our slides that
[28:33]
go up and on my website w w w
[28:34]
dot San diego.Gov backslash
[28:34]
city clerk on the front web
[28:39]
page there we encourage
[28:39]
everyone to participate and
[28:40]
please give us feedback on how
[28:41]
we can better support public
[28:44]
engagement in city council
[28:44]
meetings.
[28:45]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[28:45]
right.
[28:46]
Thank you MADAM Clerk and thank
[28:48]
you for going for that extra
[28:49]
effort to get that public
[28:49]
input.
[28:50]
So with that please go over how
[28:53]
the public can offer their
[28:53]
testimony.
[28:54]
>> Thank you.
[28:54]
Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
[28:59]
highlight the slide that was on
[28:59]
the screen but the screen that
[29:00]
reviews how public offer can
[29:03]
how the public can offer their
[29:04]
public testimony during this
[29:04]
afternoon's meeting.
[29:07]
You can go and get the website
[29:08]
link at w w w dot San diego.Gov
[29:09]
backslash City Clerk on our
[29:12]
agenda it is there at the front
[29:13]
If you'd like to participate
[29:14]
via zoom it's w w w dot San
[29:18]
Diego dot gov slash c c m t g
[29:22]
It's back up on the screen now
[29:23]
as well as the webinar id
[29:23]
information.
[29:26]
If you are in person please
[29:27]
complete the speaker slip
[29:28]
located at the entrance of
[29:28]
chambers and bring it to
[29:29]
the front of the room in
[29:31]
the clear box.
[29:32]
There's also council
[29:33]
ambassadors that are available
[29:33]
near the entrance of chambers
[29:36]
and can assist with questions
[29:37]
and speaker slips.
[29:37]
If you are participating
[29:40]
remotely press star nine or
[29:41]
the raise your hand icon and no
[29:42]
further in-person testimony
[29:45]
will be taken once the Council
[29:46]
begins Virtual testimony.
[29:46]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[29:47]
right.
[29:47]
Thank you.
[29:49]
And with that please introduce
[29:49]
item 200.
[29:50]
Item 200 is an informational
[29:50]
item.
[29:54]
It is the annual update from
[29:55]
the San Diego City Port
[29:58]
Commissioners If you'd like to
[29:59]
if you'd like to speak on this
[30:00]
item, now is the time to submit
[30:01]
your speaker slip to the front
[30:04]
of the room into the clear box
[30:04]
or if you are participating
[30:08]
remotely come on in.
[30:09]
If you are participating
[30:10]
remotely please be sure to
[30:10]
raise your hand by pressing
[30:14]
star nine or the raise your
[30:14]
hand icon.
[30:15]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[30:18]
right.
[30:18]
Thank you.
[30:19]
Well welcome to our chambers
[30:20]
this time And these are our
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port commissioners that are
[30:23]
the commissioners representing
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the city of San Diego.
[30:24]
San Diego Excuse me.
[30:28]
Please introduce yourselves for
[30:29]
the record and let us know how
[30:29]
much time you need for your
[30:30]
presentation.
[30:33]
Good afternoon, Council
[30:34]
PRESIDENT.
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15 minutes, please.
[30:35]
All right, When you're ready,
[30:38]
Go ahead.
[30:39]
Next slide.
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Oh.
[30:39]
Oh, no.
[30:40]
Sorry.
[30:43]
I apologize.
[30:48]
I know you're very excited and
[30:49]
good afternoon, Council
[30:49]
PRESIDENT.
[30:50]
Members of the City Council.
[30:51]
I'm Michael Zuccato.
[30:54]
I'm the vice chair of the board
[30:55]
of Port Commissioners joined by
[30:55]
Commissioner Silver Opera and
[30:58]
Commissioner Daniel Moore.
[30:59]
We are your three San Diego
[31:00]
appointees.
[31:03]
We're going to give you a brief
[31:03]
update on a number of items
[31:07]
today broken down into three
[31:08]
categories parks and open space
[31:08]
economic development.
[31:09]
And we're going to tell you
[31:11]
about some exciting events
[31:12]
coming through our Tidelands
[31:12]
activation program.
[31:21]
Next slide please.
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No, no, no.
[31:35]
Very good.
[31:36]
So beginning with parks and
[31:37]
Open space, we're going to
[31:40]
begin with what will be
[31:40]
the largest veterans park on
[31:44]
the West Coast Freedom Park at
[31:45]
Burnham Navy Pier.
[31:46]
If you look at the rendering
[31:49]
there, that's Navy Pier on
[31:50]
the left side of this
[31:50]
photograph and the park will
[31:54]
begin at that eastern edge of
[31:55]
the pier ramp all the way
[31:59]
around the midway over the g
[32:03]
Street Mall on the other side
[32:04]
and ten acres in all.
[32:08]
So this is a very substantial
[32:08]
park that is under construction
[32:09]
today.
[32:09]
The port demolished last year
[32:13]
that had house warehouse
[32:14]
looking structure at the at
[32:18]
the base of the pier.
[32:18]
It's it's it's nearing
[32:22]
completion of the under under
[32:23]
water reinforcements and
[32:23]
engineering that's going on
[32:27]
the Midway Museum our partners
[32:28]
in this effort continue their
[32:29]
fundraising for their
[32:32]
construction and we're excited
[32:33]
that completion is scheduled to
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be in time for Veteran's Day
[32:37]
2028.
[32:37]
Next slide please.
[32:42]
Moving on to Cesar Chavez Park
[32:42]
improvements.
[32:46]
This is a this is a project
[32:47]
that is in a more preliminary
[32:47]
design phase.
[32:51]
We're working closely with
[32:52]
Councilmember Moreno,
[32:52]
the Barrio Logan Community
[32:56]
Planning Group which kind of
[32:56]
park steering committee.
[32:57]
We've had a few public
[33:01]
workshops and pop up events
[33:05]
trying to come up with a
[33:06]
collaborative design and a plan
[33:10]
to make these improvements at
[33:11]
the moment we're talking about
[33:11]
a splash pad.
[33:12]
We're talking about more lawn
[33:15]
space for picnics and
[33:16]
gatherings a perched beach sort
[33:19]
of above above the water Aztec
[33:20]
inspired hardscape shade
[33:24]
structures and other a
[33:25]
amenities although this is in
[33:25]
preliminary design the good
[33:30]
news is this this project is
[33:30]
basically already funded
[33:34]
through something at the port
[33:34]
called the Balance Capital
[33:35]
Program which is something
[33:36]
where each member cities
[33:39]
commissioners sort of guide
[33:40]
some public money And this is
[33:44]
the choice of the three
[33:45]
commissioners before you in
[33:45]
terms of San Diego.
[33:49]
And so this is this project is
[33:50]
largely funded construction
[33:51]
we're hoping is fall of 2027
[33:54]
completed in the spring of
[33:54]
2028.
[33:58]
Next slide please.
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Another ten acre park currently
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.
[34:06]
Next slide please.
[34:07]
Coming up for East Harbor
[34:07]
Island.
[34:11]
This is the part of East Harbor
[34:12]
Island that you probably
[34:13]
haven't been to before unless
[34:16]
you made a wrong turn.
[34:17]
This is the part that is right
[34:18]
by Harbor Island Drive.
[34:21]
It's currently parking lots for
[34:25]
overflow rental cars and
[34:26]
construction areas for the for
[34:27]
the airport right now It's
[34:31]
going to be the future site for
[34:32]
Topgolf which my colleague is
[34:33]
going to talk about in a second
[34:36]
But we're talking about that
[34:36]
what do you call that teal
[34:37]
aquamarine around it?
[34:40]
That's a ten acre park all on
[34:40]
the waterfront.
[34:45]
There's also a proposal for
[34:46]
about a six and a half acre
[34:46]
entertainment and restaurant
[34:50]
district in this area.
[34:50]
The part of Harbor Island that
[34:51]
most people are familiar with
[34:55]
is that part of the photograph,
[34:55]
part with the restaurants and
[34:56]
the hotels.
[34:56]
This is right now literally a
[35:00]
walled off sort of industrial
[35:00]
section of of of East Harbor
[35:05]
Island And it will and this
[35:05]
entire development and park
[35:10]
space will be transform at of
[35:10]
Next slide please.
[35:14]
Finally at least for for my
[35:15]
part of this presentation want
[35:16]
to update you on the maritime
[35:19]
clean air strategy Something
[35:20]
the port adopted in 2021.
[35:20]
The purpose of it was and
[35:24]
the goal of it was health
[35:25]
equity for all basically what
[35:28]
can we as a port do more to
[35:29]
improve on the lives of
[35:30]
the port communities who
[35:34]
surround the operations of
[35:34]
the port And and one of
[35:38]
the goals of the of the of
[35:39]
the strategy was to put our
[35:43]
goals make them aggressive and
[35:44]
put them in writing and hope to
[35:45]
generate federal and state
[35:48]
money to help fund those
[35:48]
activities.
[35:49]
And I think it's fair to say
[35:53]
that even our most optimistic
[35:53]
hopes were far exceeded to
[35:54]
date.
[35:58]
We've raised sort of a quarter
[35:59]
billion dollars in the last
[36:03]
five years to fund electric
[36:03]
cranes completely electrify
[36:08]
almost completely electrify
[36:08]
the 10,000 Marine terminal.
[36:09]
By the way, all that electric
[36:13]
equipment is is the electricity
[36:13]
from It comes from a solar
[36:16]
powered microgrid grid at
[36:17]
the 10,000 Marine terminal
[36:17]
which also saves money and
[36:21]
reduces further emissions.
[36:22]
So very grateful to the work of
[36:22]
our staff at the port
[36:26]
especially Jobe Nelson who you
[36:26]
already know and his team who
[36:27]
have really gone above and
[36:30]
beyond in securing this money
[36:31]
and the result of that of those
[36:35]
investments were demonstrated
[36:36]
in our emissions inventory
[36:40]
which was just published and it
[36:40]
showed that in a five year
[36:41]
period we had a 30% decrease in
[36:45]
nitrogen oxides and a 46%
[36:46]
decrease in diesel particulate
[36:50]
matter emissions from port
[36:51]
related activities in just a
[36:51]
five year period.
[36:55]
And so we're pretty excited
[36:55]
about that.
[36:56]
Just at our last board meeting
[37:00]
we we approved our clean cargo
[37:01]
port grant with epa which did
[37:01]
come through.
[37:05]
We have a couple of partners on
[37:06]
that goal.
[37:06]
Our main tenant at the 10th
[37:07]
Avenue Marine Terminal and
[37:10]
Patient Automotive who is our
[37:11]
who runs the terminal down in
[37:15]
National City also in that
[37:16]
grant we've got funded a
[37:16]
workforce development staff
[37:20]
member who's going to who's
[37:21]
going to help promote clean
[37:25]
tech careers And so we're
[37:25]
excited about these results and
[37:26]
look forward to continuing
[37:30]
the progress Moving on.
[37:31]
Commissioner Ferrara Good
[37:31]
afternoon.
[37:34]
Sid Baraka For the record I'm
[37:35]
happy to be here.
[37:36]
I also want to acknowledge as
[37:40]
Commissioner as you mentioned
[37:41]
Jobe Nelson, Jobe Nelson, Scott
[37:41]
Chadwick and Ron Powell I think
[37:45]
they need no introduction from
[37:45]
all of you have joined us today
[37:46]
as well.
[37:50]
I'm going to share three
[37:50]
projects all under
[37:51]
environmental review at this
[37:55]
point in time.
[37:56]
But as you'll see we see end of
[37:56]
the tunnel or the light at
[37:59]
the end of the tunnel on all
[38:00]
three of them starting with
[38:00]
Seaport San Diego.
[38:04]
It is our most ambitious
[38:05]
project in its planning stages.
[38:09]
I know you are all familiar
[38:09]
with it.
[38:10]
This mixed use project proposes
[38:14]
free public uses and commercial
[38:15]
ventures including plazas,
[38:19]
parks, promenades, piers
[38:20]
marinas, hotels, retail and
[38:20]
restaurants, Commercial fishing
[38:24]
uses multiple visitor
[38:25]
attractions and urban beach and
[38:29]
educational uses as well.
[38:30]
It would unfold on about 39
[38:35]
acres of land and 63 acres of
[38:35]
water that includes parts of
[38:40]
Seaport Village Tuna Harbor,
[38:41]
Embarcadero, Marina Park North
[38:41]
and Rucker Park.
[38:44]
So as I said it's under
[38:45]
environmental review and we
[38:45]
actually anticipate the next
[38:46]
the completion of that review
[38:47]
later this year.
[38:52]
Next slide please.
[38:53]
>> The second project I want to
[38:58]
share is the is 1220 Pacific
[38:58]
Highway.
[38:59]
So after completing a deal with
[39:02]
the us Navy to acquire its
[39:03]
leasehold the port staff is
[39:03]
preparing to present a proposed
[39:07]
use for the site at our MARCH
[39:08]
10th Board of Port
[39:12]
Commissioners meeting and we
[39:13]
are actually considering a
[39:13]
proposal that promises to bring
[39:14]
in a new public attraction to
[39:17]
the area next to
[39:18]
the Intercontinental Hotel
[39:18]
along the Embarcadero.
[39:23]
So I think all three of us are
[39:24]
excited to see a development
[39:25]
plan that transforms what has
[39:27]
been an unusable 3.4 acre
[39:32]
cluster of Navy office
[39:33]
buildings since 1949 into an
[39:33]
activated space for our
[39:37]
community.
[39:38]
>> Next slide please.
[39:43]
Vice Chair As you can also talk
[39:44]
a little bit about East Harbor
[39:45]
Drive our East River Island
[39:48]
excuse me and the park and this
[39:49]
is part of our activation
[39:49]
program with Topgolf.
[39:54]
So this proposed project sits
[39:55]
on ten acres again also
[39:59]
occupied currently by rental
[39:59]
car companies.
[40:00]
It's also under environmental
[40:04]
review and we're expecting an
[40:05]
air to be circulated for public
[40:06]
study and comment this fall.
[40:10]
Once it is the air is certified
[40:14]
by the Board of Commissioners.
[40:14]
It will be submitted to
[40:15]
the California Coastal
[40:16]
Commission for review.
[40:19]
And it is that's a crucial step
[40:20]
that would allow construction
[40:25]
to begin topgolf promises to
[40:26]
serve as a magnet that we think
[40:27]
will attract the public and
[40:30]
provides a jolt of energy to
[40:31]
East Harbor Drive between
[40:32]
the planned East Harbor Island
[40:35]
Park and Promenade and Topgolf.
[40:36]
We the three of us are in
[40:40]
particular looking to see how
[40:41]
we could reimagine this space
[40:41]
that as Vice chair you
[40:45]
mentioned has been just not
[40:46]
usable for the public in our
[40:46]
community.
[40:50]
Next slide.
[40:51]
>> And finally for me and my
[40:52]
portion of this presentation
[40:56]
are cruise industry.
[40:56]
So the port is experiencing
[40:57]
rebound in its cruise ship
[40:57]
business.
[41:01]
We had a 107 cruise ship calls
[41:05]
with 389,000 passengers this
[41:05]
season.
[41:09]
So as just to give a comparison
[41:09]
in the 2024 2025 cruise season
[41:14]
we recorded 75 cruise ships and
[41:14]
welcomed just about 260,000
[41:19]
passengers at that time.
[41:19]
So during that season cruise
[41:20]
lines had repositioned ships to
[41:24]
Asia and Australia and tested
[41:25]
other markets.
[41:30]
But I want to say
[41:31]
congratulations to our maritime
[41:31]
team who have really worked
[41:35]
hard to kind of engage
[41:35]
the cruise line industry.
[41:39]
And this year's performance is
[41:40]
similar to our 2023 2024 season
[41:40]
and that's what Global Travel
[41:45]
magazine recognized us San
[41:46]
Diego is the best cruise port
[41:47]
in the world at Seas and saw
[41:49]
101 cruise calls with 340,000
[41:49]
passengers.
[41:50]
So to give you a sense of why
[41:55]
this matters for all of us,
[41:56]
each voyage that begins and
[41:57]
ends in San Diego So a home for
[42:00]
all injects $2 million into
[42:01]
the local economy through ship
[42:02]
provisioning and visitor
[42:02]
spending.
[42:06]
>> a stop here by cruise ship
[42:06]
that originates at a different
[42:10]
port brings in about $600,000
[42:11]
into our local economy.
[42:11]
This year's fiscal year
[42:16]
the port's cruise businesses
[42:17]
will generate an estimated $157
[42:18]
million in economic impact to
[42:22]
the San Diego County.
[42:23]
And I see we're down to three
[42:24]
and half minutes so I'm going
[42:24]
to turn it over to my colleague
[42:25]
Commissioner Maurer.
[42:26]
Okay.
[42:27]
Hello.
[42:27]
Hello everyone.
[42:33]
Daniel Moore very proud to be
[42:37]
to serve on this board And one
[42:38]
of the best parts is being able
[42:39]
to serve with the other
[42:40]
commissioners commissioners who
[42:43]
can't is is modest when he
[42:43]
talks about the cas But I'm
[42:44]
sure you all observed how he
[42:49]
stood up a little taller his
[42:50]
chest out a little bit more and
[42:50]
that's because of the work that
[42:54]
was done with the with cas with
[42:55]
during his tenure as chair.
[42:55]
So at the advice chair this
[42:59]
year we are very excited about
[43:00]
his leadership next year so
[43:01]
that he can continue
[43:01]
introducing more innovative
[43:05]
ideas like cas.
[43:06]
I'm going to walk us quickly
[43:06]
through some other exciting
[43:10]
things that are happening at
[43:11]
the Port of San Diego the first
[43:11]
one being Harbor Drive 2.0.
[43:12]
And this project is about
[43:16]
modernizing movement.
[43:17]
We reduce truck idling, improve
[43:21]
safety and make access more
[43:21]
predictable while also moving
[43:22]
goods better and making
[43:27]
breathing easier, easier.
[43:28]
Harbor Drive is a front line
[43:29]
corridor and has to work for
[43:32]
freight visitors and nearby
[43:33]
neighbors especially
[43:33]
communities impacted by diesel
[43:34]
emissions.
[43:38]
And it is not just a traffic
[43:39]
project it's a health and
[43:43]
mobility project aligned with
[43:44]
our emissions reduction goals
[43:44]
and regional partners like
[43:49]
Caltrans and sandag who have
[43:50]
been instrumental in making
[43:50]
this project come to life.
[43:55]
And what we're modernizing now
[43:56]
One thing I also wanted to note
[43:57]
that is already this year
[43:58]
the port participated in a
[44:00]
joint federal race grant
[44:01]
application with Caltrans with
[44:02]
the goal of furthering this
[44:02]
corridor concept and also
[44:06]
environmental analysis is
[44:07]
expected to be released for
[44:08]
public review this fall.
[44:17]
Next slide please.
[44:18]
>> One of the exciting stories
[44:19]
that we are able to tell at
[44:23]
the Port of San Diego is about
[44:24]
the blue economy incubator.
[44:25]
You look at places like Silicon
[44:25]
Valley that have become known
[44:29]
for their tech innovation.
[44:30]
The San Diego Bay has really
[44:31]
become known all over the world
[44:35]
for the innovation that we are
[44:36]
doing in our San Diego Bay in
[44:36]
terms of incubating
[44:41]
technologies and concepts that
[44:41]
will improve the blue tech
[44:42]
economy.
[44:47]
And so the Board of
[44:47]
Commissioners last month
[44:48]
approved the addition of our 13
[44:49]
early stage water dependent
[44:53]
company to the roster of
[44:54]
the port's blue economy
[44:54]
incubator portfolio.
[44:59]
The new entrant is Naoko Design
[45:00]
Corp Corporation, also known as
[45:00]
Lux Blue.
[45:03]
And one of the things that
[45:04]
makes them so excited and
[45:04]
exciting is that they have
[45:05]
patented underwater
[45:08]
bioluminescent lighting
[45:09]
solution that will replace
[45:10]
plastic glow sticks which are
[45:15]
harmful to the environment.
[45:15]
The board agreed to fund
[45:19]
the Lux bio startup for up to
[45:20]
$350,000 for 18 months where
[45:20]
they will be able to use
[45:24]
the bay to test their enzyme
[45:25]
powered underwater lighting
[45:26]
technology at several
[45:26]
locations.
[45:30]
And in exchange they will pay
[45:31]
us up to $2.1 million over time
[45:32]
from eventual sales of their
[45:36]
product.
[45:37]
>> One of the proof points when
[45:42]
we look at our entire portfolio
[45:43]
is that we have had innovative
[45:48]
technologies that have removed
[45:49]
remove marine debris at a scale
[45:50]
of over 110,000 pounds.
[45:55]
We have also had letting short
[45:56]
land where 60 plus species were
[46:00]
documented on bio enhancing
[46:00]
armor units within months.
[46:01]
We're able to see real time
[46:02]
environmental monitoring that
[46:06]
replaces weeks long lab delays
[46:07]
with actionable data.
[46:08]
And so that same commitment to
[46:12]
a healthier, more accessible
[46:13]
bay shows up in how we invest
[46:13]
in our parks.
[46:15]
Starting with Cesar Chavez Park
[46:15]
.
[46:22]
Next slide please.
[46:23]
>> Commissioners, we get talked
[46:24]
about some of the work that is
[46:27]
doing to redesign the park in
[46:28]
collaboration with
[46:29]
Councilmember Moreno's office.
[46:33]
And I wanted to acknowledge
[46:34]
that that work is not about,
[46:35]
you know, consulting with
[46:35]
the community afterwards But
[46:39]
from the very beginning being
[46:39]
integrated in the community and
[46:40]
really getting feedback about
[46:41]
what they want.
[46:45]
And so the port will host a
[46:46]
free day at the park cultural
[46:46]
celebration etc. Etc..
[46:50]
Chavez Park on Saturday APRIL
[46:51]
11th from 11 to 3 P.M. This
[46:52]
family friendly event is part
[46:56]
of the port's expanded access
[46:56]
program that really is designed
[46:57]
to bring people out, bring
[47:01]
residents out to our parks to
[47:02]
be able to enjoy
[47:02]
the waterfront.
[47:03]
And we are able to sponsor a
[47:07]
day of fun and entertainment
[47:08]
And highlights include
[47:09]
multicultural entertainment
[47:09]
featuring local artists hands
[47:14]
on children's activities,
[47:15]
interactive community booths
[47:15]
and vouchers for free food and
[47:16]
beverages.
[47:20]
We are entering our third year
[47:21]
of water activation program and
[47:21]
we'll have similar events at
[47:27]
other parks throughout the bay.
[47:27]
All right.
[47:28]
Our last sighted focus on
[47:28]
the big bay boom.
[47:32]
Every JULY we get very excited
[47:32]
about this event that brings
[47:33]
hundreds of thousands of
[47:33]
visitors to San Diego.
[47:39]
The port began to be the title
[47:42]
sponsor of the Big Apple this
[47:43]
4th of JULY with the fireworks
[47:43]
event that draws crowds of
[47:44]
300,000 attendees.
[47:48]
The pyrotechnic show provides a
[47:49]
boost to hotels, restaurants
[47:49]
and small businesses and this
[47:54]
year's show will be special as
[47:55]
the nation celebrates the 250th
[47:55]
anniversary of the signing of
[47:56]
the Declaration of
[47:56]
Independence.
[48:01]
The port is partnering with
[48:01]
Fleet Week San Diego as events
[48:02]
new nonprofit partner and
[48:05]
fiscal sponsor aligning
[48:06]
the celebration with an
[48:07]
organization that directly
[48:07]
supports active duty service
[48:12]
members and veterans.
[48:18]
The cost are the benefit to
[48:19]
the bay is $1 million in terms
[48:20]
of the economic impact.
[48:24]
And we also are excited to
[48:25]
provide sponsorship to support
[48:25]
cruise ships that are
[48:30]
positioned in the bay during
[48:30]
the event.
[48:31]
All right.
[48:31]
Thank you all.
[48:35]
Thank you.
[48:36]
And that concludes our report.
[48:37]
We're happy to take any
[48:37]
questions.
[48:38]
I did just want to end on
[48:41]
something that Commissioner
[48:42]
Moore references which is we're
[48:42]
very grateful for
[48:43]
the opportunity to serve.
[48:48]
We appreciate their confidence.
[48:49]
You showed us to do that on
[48:49]
behalf of the people of San
[48:54]
Diego And we also think it's
[48:55]
been proven you really enjoy
[48:56]
working with each other as well
[49:00]
And so I want to thank you for
[49:00]
the opportunity.
[49:01]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[49:01]
All right.
[49:02]
Thank you.
[49:06]
Thank you for the presentation
[49:06]
.
[49:07]
Thank you for taking the time
[49:07]
to come here and make
[49:08]
the annual report and your
[49:09]
service to the port and to
[49:12]
the city as our representative.
[49:12]
So with that thought, please go
[49:18]
to public comment.
[49:18]
Thank you.
[49:19]
Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry
[49:20]
the five minute timer here in
[49:21]
council chambers because I do
[49:23]
not have any speakers for this
[49:24]
item here in council chambers
[49:24]
going to those on that line.
[49:30]
John Stump If you can please
[49:31]
unmute after that is Andrea
[49:34]
Everingham the 8700 Johnson Hi
[49:35]
,good afternoon.
[49:36]
You know the port report was
[49:41]
very good but the problem is
[49:42]
the port on one hand claims
[49:47]
that it's trying to reduce
[49:47]
carbon pollution, global
[49:53]
warming and the environment all
[49:53]
of the things that the port
[49:58]
does create global warming and
[49:59]
carbon production.
[50:05]
So what's needed in the future
[50:05]
is that for each activity we
[50:11]
need to have an accounting of
[50:11]
how much carbon, how much
[50:16]
global warming pollution was
[50:17]
created and what they did to
[50:18]
decrease it.
[50:23]
Folks, there's no free lunch.
[50:28]
We can't on one hand salute
[50:28]
climate change and global
[50:34]
warming reduction and on
[50:34]
the other hand increase our
[50:40]
activities that burn fossil
[50:40]
fuels and pollute
[50:41]
the atmosphere.
[50:47]
Thank you very much.
[50:47]
>> Thank you.
[50:48]
Next is Andrea I if you can
[50:52]
please unmute.
[50:52]
Hi guys.
[50:53]
That was a really good
[50:58]
presentation I think for
[50:59]
the court in the area is just
[51:00]
one of my favorite parts of San
[51:00]
Diego.
[51:05]
I think it's a really it's a
[51:05]
place where upon arrival
[51:06]
everyone is going to remember.
[51:11]
So I like the plans I just saw
[51:11]
a lot especially the last one
[51:17]
where you know what's kind of
[51:18]
like go over to Seaport Village
[51:19]
and then just to somewhat
[51:23]
piggyback on the last comment.
[51:24]
I, I know we have quite a long
[51:29]
history of fireworks and it's
[51:29]
part of our skyline as part of
[51:30]
San Diego for SeaWorld and all
[51:30]
that.
[51:35]
But I almost wonder if it's
[51:35]
time to start looking at drone
[51:41]
shows versus fireworks for
[51:41]
the images, that sort of thing
[51:42]
and the waste that is produced
[51:46]
from those shows.
[51:47]
I'm not quite sure what
[51:48]
the regulations would be faa
[51:48]
wise or aviation wise, but
[51:53]
there are certainly some really
[51:53]
solid vendors out there that do
[51:54]
amazing drone shows That could
[51:59]
be a great addition that
[51:59]
attraction to San Diego.
[52:00]
I think that whole area and
[52:01]
everything we just saw could
[52:06]
also be a great attraction for
[52:06]
I don't know if we're doing our
[52:07]
tourism What you can convince
[52:11]
convention Visitors Bureau We
[52:12]
have something like that but we
[52:13]
could start campaigning in
[52:18]
feeder markets.
[52:19]
What I just saw from that
[52:19]
visual is enough for me to want
[52:23]
to visit If it was like long
[52:24]
Beach or in a house or
[52:25]
something like that.
[52:25]
And that's it.
[52:26]
Thank you so much.
[52:26]
Thank you.
[52:29]
Next is 8700 if you can please
[52:29]
unmute.
[52:33]
After that is Hector and then
[52:40]
Kathleen Lippert.
[52:40]
Thank you Joyce and the other
[52:41]
three.
[52:44]
So good to see all of you
[52:44]
representing the court.
[52:49]
A great presentation from all
[52:49]
three.
[52:50]
And I have to say this on
[52:50]
record every time.
[52:55]
I love our working waterfront.
[52:56]
So you have three big
[53:00]
categories and you covered them
[53:01]
all very well.
[53:02]
I want to say a couple of
[53:02]
things.
[53:07]
First of all, the court honors
[53:07]
are military in big ways.
[53:08]
The military are one for a big
[53:13]
part of our San Diego family.
[53:13]
Thank you so much.
[53:19]
Health equity for all
[53:19]
maintaining the clear air
[53:20]
strategy.
[53:25]
I believe that's a correct
[53:25]
theme of that.
[53:25]
Thank you.
[53:26]
Thank you for that.
[53:27]
Love the Electric cranes.
[53:31]
I just when they were when they
[53:32]
arrived it's just beyond belief
[53:33]
They're they're so amazing.
[53:37]
Thank you for that.
[53:37]
1220 Pacific Highway looks
[53:43]
positive and fresh.
[53:44]
Wow 1940s buildings That's well
[53:48]
over I guess about 85 years old
[53:49]
that those are strong buildings
[53:54]
best crews port in the world
[54:00]
That's an amazing statement And
[54:01]
the amount of economic impact
[54:01]
because of our being the best
[54:06]
port cruise port in the world
[54:06]
is so, so appreciated.
[54:07]
We need more revenue.
[54:12]
Everybody love the little Billy
[54:13]
at the park.
[54:13]
It's terrific.
[54:18]
I would just ask you to do
[54:19]
this.
[54:19]
Most of the people I talk to
[54:20]
really in downtown area do not
[54:22]
know much about the working
[54:22]
waterfront.
[54:30]
It's about the word.
[54:31]
Thank you for those comments if
[54:31]
I MAY.
[54:32]
A timer has concluded here in
[54:33]
council chambers there are two
[54:33]
people in the queue No
[54:34]
additional people will be
[54:34]
taken.
[54:35]
Hector and Kathleen Lippert,
[54:35]
your final two speakers.
[54:40]
Hector begin, please.
[54:41]
>> I knew I have to hear that
[54:46]
the port has really have their
[54:47]
stuff together from the get go.
[54:47]
Guys did a great job.
[54:48]
I just wish the city could
[54:51]
model their game.
[54:52]
You guys Everything's looking
[54:52]
great.
[54:53]
The veterans things out of
[54:58]
Midway.
[54:59]
i think you guys got to get on
[55:00]
it because know there's burning
[55:03]
daylight guys getting old You
[55:04]
guys got to step it up like six
[55:09]
months so it can be done before
[55:10]
you check it out.
[55:11]
But he's a great guy So also
[55:17]
he's building on once we build
[55:18]
a tunnel on the Strand I told
[55:19]
you about it but now instead of
[55:22]
just trying to do that with
[55:22]
the Navy so you open up another
[55:28]
part of San Diego Bay and it
[55:28]
would be like on the southern
[55:29]
end there put up jetties in
[55:34]
there and have a tunnel go
[55:35]
the road go underneath it,
[55:36]
maybe another project to work
[55:38]
on to the port and whatever he
[55:39]
has to do is full speed ahead,
[55:40]
get it done And thanks a lot
[55:41]
for your time.
[55:45]
Thanks.
[55:46]
Thank you.
[55:47]
Our final speaker is Kathleen
[55:47]
Lippert.
[55:50]
If you can please unmute.
[55:51]
>> Thank you.
[55:52]
Good morning and thank you for
[55:52]
the presentation.
[55:56]
It was a great presentation.
[55:57]
Really do appreciate all of
[55:58]
your suggestions and plans to
[56:03]
increase and improve park
[56:08]
amenities and park acreage.
[56:09]
The Clean Air Strategy is
[56:10]
something that San Diego will
[56:15]
welcome and I am hoping that
[56:15]
there is pushback from
[56:21]
the board as to the taking or
[56:21]
transitioning of mission Bay
[56:26]
Park land to commercial
[56:27]
amenities and taking away any
[56:32]
of that from the public.
[56:32]
It's really a disturbing
[56:33]
prospect But thank you for all
[56:38]
you're doing right now.
[56:39]
>> Appreciate it.
[56:40]
Thank you for letting me think.
[56:40]
Thank you.
[56:43]
That concludes with a comment
[56:44]
on item 200.
[56:44]
All right.
[56:45]
Thank you, City Clerk.
[56:45]
As a reminder, this is an
[56:50]
information item and no motions
[56:50]
required turned over to council
[56:51]
members for questions Comment
[56:52]
and we'll start with
[56:55]
Councilmember Isla Rivera.
[56:56]
Resident Thank you to our port
[56:56]
commissioners.
[56:59]
Really appreciate all three of
[57:05]
you The time that you all spend
[57:06]
the way that you show up And
[57:06]
I'm really appreciating that
[57:07]
San Diego is super well served
[57:11]
by all three of you and I
[57:12]
appreciate you doing the work
[57:16]
that you do The update Great.
[57:17]
Lots of good stuff.
[57:18]
I really very much appreciate
[57:23]
how much of what is is coming
[57:24]
online will benefit or at least
[57:24]
can benefit San Diego and
[57:25]
provide access points for San
[57:29]
Diego and especially young
[57:30]
people even sheltered
[57:35]
the shelter island park
[57:36]
the little park that that there
[57:36]
I took my son there a couple
[57:37]
weeks ago and it's a great
[57:40]
little playground.
[57:41]
Um so appreciate the updates
[57:42]
there and the progress that's
[57:46]
being made still I think that's
[57:51]
pretty incredible in terms of
[57:52]
updates on on cruise ships.
[57:53]
I'm curious is is there
[57:58]
something in particular that
[57:59]
you think changed or is it like
[58:05]
they experimented elsewhere and
[58:05]
kind of forgot what the thing
[58:06]
they have here?
[58:06]
What do you think
[58:07]
the difference was on that
[58:10]
front?
[58:11]
Thank you Council Member I
[58:11]
think it's actually a
[58:16]
combination of multiple things
[58:16]
.
[58:17]
I think we've heard from
[58:22]
the cruise industry that their
[58:22]
guests, their cruisers they
[58:23]
actually really like the San
[58:23]
Diego homeport.
[58:28]
I think that actually drove
[58:29]
drives a lot of their thinking.
[58:30]
I think that they also did as
[58:34]
to your kind of like thinking
[58:35]
about it that they did do a lot
[58:36]
of experimentation in Asia And
[58:39]
I think just the you know
[58:40]
typically a 3 to 5 day kind of
[58:44]
trip to through Baja actually
[58:44]
is one that works really well
[58:45]
even just from a not just from
[58:49]
a visitor experience or
[58:50]
customer experience but also
[58:51]
just from an economics
[58:51]
perspective as well.
[58:55]
And and I can't thank enough
[58:55]
our maritime team who have been
[58:56]
really diligent about going out
[59:02]
and actually engaging each of
[59:02]
our cruise line industries and
[59:03]
keeping ones like Holland
[59:04]
America who's been on board for
[59:07]
some time now very much engaged
[59:08]
and excited about what we have
[59:14]
to offer and I know that there
[59:15]
are a couple of new cruise
[59:15]
liners that are looking at
[59:20]
doing home ports with us So I
[59:21]
actually think the next time we
[59:22]
come here we might have some
[59:22]
bigger updates for you but I
[59:23]
think it's a combination of
[59:23]
those three.
[59:26]
I just want to add to that You
[59:27]
know, I think when Commissioner
[59:27]
Barack Obama talks about they
[59:28]
like the San Diego home port,
[59:32]
they like being able to be
[59:32]
dropped in the middle of our
[59:33]
city and all that it offers.
[59:34]
They like being adjacent to
[59:37]
the airport where you look at
[59:38]
other places in Southern
[59:39]
California where it's so remote
[59:43]
the port is isolated from a lot
[59:44]
of things that are accessible.
[59:45]
But here in San Diego you get
[59:45]
dropped here and you get access
[59:49]
to our entire city, to our
[59:49]
transportation system, to
[59:50]
the train system.
[59:51]
And so it opens up so much for
[59:55]
people when they come to San
[59:55]
Diego.
[59:56]
They're not just coming to you
[59:57]
know, just go to the port.
[1:00:00]
They're coming to see San Diego
[1:00:01]
and see all that it has to
[1:00:01]
offer.
[1:00:02]
On that point I have to share a
[1:00:07]
quick anecdote which was I was
[1:00:08]
at Ralphs bagging my groceries
[1:00:09]
in line and I was where my port
[1:00:13]
San Diego jacket and
[1:00:14]
the cashier asked me Do you
[1:00:14]
work at the port?
[1:00:15]
And it's actually one of our
[1:00:16]
commuters here in San Diego And
[1:00:19]
she said What are you bringing
[1:00:20]
back a certain cruise line
[1:00:20]
because I hate going my
[1:00:21]
husband.
[1:00:21]
I hate going to Long Beach So I
[1:00:25]
kind of like several.
[1:00:25]
Thank you.
[1:00:26]
One question that I've asked
[1:00:31]
every time you all come upon 20
[1:00:32]
what's going on with line 20?
[1:00:36]
What's the progress there?
[1:00:37]
Thanks COUNCILMAN.
[1:00:42]
I feel like I just looked at
[1:00:48]
the potato so long process
[1:00:48]
obviously right And at
[1:00:49]
the moment So there are six
[1:00:54]
agencies participating in
[1:00:54]
the interagency review team to
[1:00:55]
develop a banking enabling
[1:00:59]
instrument along with port So
[1:01:00]
maybe I should start by for
[1:01:01]
those who are unfamiliar with
[1:01:01]
what a banking enabled
[1:01:07]
instrument is that's actually
[1:01:07]
the legal binding agreement
[1:01:08]
between the bank.
[1:01:08]
The bank sponsor Sorry to stop
[1:01:09]
you.
[1:01:13]
I think maybe maybe even a
[1:01:14]
little bit more about what
[1:01:14]
point one is if you don't mind
[1:01:15]
if I count the PRESIDENT's okay
[1:01:16]
with a little bit of an
[1:01:17]
overview for those who don't
[1:01:18]
know.
[1:01:18]
>> Sure.
[1:01:19]
Thank you Councilmember.
[1:01:19]
It's it's basically like
[1:01:25]
wetlands mitigation projects So
[1:01:25]
ensuring that there's specific
[1:01:31]
space that we at the port of
[1:01:37]
City will preserve for our it's
[1:01:37]
I want to say it's 80 acres.
[1:01:38]
Good job, Nelson Thank you very
[1:01:42]
much Councilmember.
[1:01:43]
I just needed to ask you that
[1:01:44]
That is preserve wetlands
[1:01:44]
mitigation.
[1:01:48]
So what happens is oftentimes a
[1:01:49]
developer will get as they're
[1:01:49]
trying to do a a project will
[1:01:55]
be required to have a specific
[1:01:55]
set aside for uplands
[1:01:56]
mitigation for the developer
[1:02:00]
that they're doing and they'll
[1:02:01]
typically pay off a certain
[1:02:01]
kind of amount of money for a
[1:02:06]
loop fee that says okay here's
[1:02:07]
this cash for preservation and
[1:02:07]
it's oftentimes just siloed and
[1:02:11]
in different spaces.
[1:02:12]
This particular project would
[1:02:13]
ensure that that space here at
[1:02:17]
the Tidelands would be
[1:02:18]
preserved and could be used as
[1:02:18]
this bank For other developers
[1:02:23]
who are looking to determine
[1:02:23]
projects, the money that's
[1:02:24]
received can be then turned
[1:02:29]
into an equity economic
[1:02:29]
development opportunities.
[1:02:30]
So it's actually the city of
[1:02:35]
San Diego and Imperial Beach
[1:02:35]
would be the recipients of
[1:02:36]
those potential resources.
[1:02:37]
I hope that's helpful.
[1:02:41]
Councilmember And then
[1:02:42]
the actual in banking enabling
[1:02:42]
instrument as I mentioned is
[1:02:47]
the legally binding agreement
[1:02:47]
between the regulatory agencies
[1:02:48]
and the bank sponsor which is
[1:02:52]
the port of San Diego.
[1:02:53]
And through that agreement
[1:02:54]
that's where we actually are
[1:02:59]
looking at defining how credits
[1:02:59]
are created.
[1:03:00]
Right?
[1:03:01]
So like again I just did a very
[1:03:01]
big overview but the agreement
[1:03:04]
itself is will determine how
[1:03:05]
those credits are created, how
[1:03:06]
they are released and then how
[1:03:06]
they are sold.
[1:03:11]
>> So the interagency review
[1:03:11]
team partly consists of
[1:03:12]
the Army Corps of Engineers,
[1:03:17]
the epa, the U.S. Department of
[1:03:17]
Fish and Wildlife Services,
[1:03:18]
noa, the California Regional
[1:03:22]
Water Quality Control Board and
[1:03:22]
California Coastal Commission.
[1:03:23]
So where we stand right now is
[1:03:24]
that there has been an
[1:03:28]
iterative process of back and
[1:03:29]
forth with questions being
[1:03:30]
addressed by the interagency
[1:03:34]
review team and currently we
[1:03:34]
have a thousand comments from
[1:03:41]
the that that team and we are
[1:03:41]
actually going through those
[1:03:42]
because they're all technical
[1:03:46]
in nature and the port's plan
[1:03:47]
is to resubmit with answers to
[1:03:48]
those questions later this
[1:03:48]
spring.
[1:03:52]
>> Got it.
[1:03:53]
And I don't know there's any
[1:03:54]
way of even projecting out or
[1:03:58]
is there a hope for when this
[1:03:59]
turns into the sort of Wetlands
[1:04:04]
rehab project that is
[1:04:05]
envisioned or I don't know if I
[1:04:05]
can say envision but nothing
[1:04:06]
simple.
[1:04:10]
So for sometimes like again
[1:04:11]
once we submit these these
[1:04:12]
questions are the easy answers.
[1:04:12]
I have a feeling there are
[1:04:15]
going to be multiple more
[1:04:16]
questions.
[1:04:16]
Keep on that.
[1:04:17]
I will say this Councilmember I
[1:04:21]
asked Port staff for a monthly
[1:04:22]
meeting to just keep you
[1:04:23]
updated on where things stand.
[1:04:27]
So the hope is that we can move
[1:04:28]
this along as fast as possible
[1:04:29]
because it's a real opportunity
[1:04:29]
We can turn this into an
[1:04:34]
economic development banking
[1:04:34]
instrument for inequity for San
[1:04:35]
Diego and Imperial Beach And I
[1:04:39]
think if it was natural
[1:04:40]
wetlands or at one point before
[1:04:45]
it was a salt like a commercial
[1:04:45]
salt pond.
[1:04:45]
That's right.
[1:04:50]
So that's the restoration as
[1:04:51]
well.
[1:04:51]
Thank you.
[1:04:52]
Appreciate that update And
[1:04:52]
thank you again everyone for
[1:04:57]
all the work that you're doing.
[1:04:58]
>> Really, really appreciate
[1:04:58]
everything that you're doing
[1:04:59]
and have done and I think got
[1:05:03]
some real reverb going back to
[1:05:03]
Councilmember Moreno.
[1:05:04]
>> Wonderful.
[1:05:04]
Thank you and thank you for
[1:05:08]
the presentation.
[1:05:09]
I want to thank our port
[1:05:09]
commissioners just for
[1:05:10]
everything they do San Diego
[1:05:14]
Port There is no other port
[1:05:15]
like it I would venture to say
[1:05:19]
in the whole world it's
[1:05:19]
extremely dynamic Hotels,
[1:05:20]
shipbuilding, navy, potential
[1:05:26]
mitigation banks and city
[1:05:26]
residents.
[1:05:27]
Right.
[1:05:27]
And there is nothing like this.
[1:05:32]
So it's really clear to me that
[1:05:33]
a great deal of planning and
[1:05:34]
coordinating and vision has
[1:05:34]
gone into the efforts that you
[1:05:38]
guys presented and I do
[1:05:38]
appreciate the transparency and
[1:05:39]
sharing the progress to us and
[1:05:43]
also to the public.
[1:05:44]
I am very excited about all
[1:05:45]
the projects In particular I
[1:05:50]
want to point out a Harbor
[1:05:55]
Drive 2.0 the pon 20 that was
[1:05:55]
just mentioned that's in
[1:05:56]
District eight and especially
[1:05:56]
the significant investment
[1:06:00]
the port is making into it as a
[1:06:01]
obvious park.
[1:06:02]
As was mentioned pon 20 is a
[1:06:06]
salt encrusted area which
[1:06:07]
the port will hopefully
[1:06:08]
transfer it into a mitigation
[1:06:12]
bank first of its kind in
[1:06:13]
the San Diego Bay.
[1:06:19]
I once upon a time was a
[1:06:19]
staffer where there were
[1:06:24]
proposals for this pon 20 and I
[1:06:24]
think one of the most
[1:06:25]
interesting one was a medieval
[1:06:30]
Times arena.
[1:06:31]
Obviously we're we're worlds
[1:06:36]
away from an arena but I will
[1:06:42]
say that I will be specifically
[1:06:42]
asking what delays have we
[1:06:43]
experienced in pon 20 at
[1:06:48]
the state level And you
[1:06:48]
mentioned that what was
[1:06:49]
the agency that you guys were
[1:06:55]
the port is Waianae is putting
[1:06:55]
together its response to this
[1:07:00]
agency right on an array of
[1:07:01]
questions that they have asked.
[1:07:02]
If I MAY just kind of clarify
[1:07:07]
that Councilmember that's so
[1:07:08]
we're the bank sponsor and so
[1:07:08]
we have to respond to the inner
[1:07:13]
agency review team.
[1:07:14]
So that's called the agency
[1:07:14]
review team And is that a state
[1:07:15]
agency or is that a federal
[1:07:21]
It's both.
[1:07:21]
So it's the six members of that
[1:07:25]
I r t is the Army Corps of
[1:07:25]
Engineers, epa, us Department,
[1:07:26]
Fish and Wildlife Services.
[1:07:32]
Noah Gotcha.
[1:07:33]
And then the Kaplan Regional
[1:07:33]
Water Quality Control Board and
[1:07:34]
the California coast of
[1:07:35]
California goes to thank you
[1:07:37]
for reiterate that I missed it
[1:07:38]
when you first mentioned it And
[1:07:43]
so you guys will respond or
[1:07:43]
the Port of San Diego will
[1:07:44]
respond.
[1:07:45]
>> How long will that response
[1:07:49]
take?
[1:07:50]
>> And again, I think that
[1:07:51]
we've been doing it's been an
[1:07:51]
interim process.
[1:07:52]
So to be clear like just so you
[1:07:55]
know, this isn't the first
[1:07:56]
response we've been having back
[1:08:01]
and forth but the most recent
[1:08:02]
set of questions and comments
[1:08:02]
we received were over a
[1:08:03]
thousand.
[1:08:07]
And so we're looking at and now
[1:08:08]
everybody at the Port of San
[1:08:08]
Diego are on the record because
[1:08:12]
I'm saying it that they told us
[1:08:13]
but it's going to be submitted
[1:08:13]
later this spring.
[1:08:14]
Later this spring, Correct.
[1:08:18]
So before JUNE 20th, 2026 And I
[1:08:19]
have a feeling you'll be
[1:08:23]
calling me when I do and I'm
[1:08:24]
just trying to I want to I
[1:08:25]
mentioned this earlier I have
[1:08:29]
until DECEMBER and since I have
[1:08:30]
been working at the city of San
[1:08:31]
Diego I feel like this is a
[1:08:36]
missed opportunity because of
[1:08:36]
the land The land that we have
[1:08:41]
in pon 20 is I mean Poseidon
[1:08:42]
used used it for mitigation
[1:08:46]
right next to upon 20 and they
[1:08:46]
mitigated it for
[1:08:47]
the desalinization plant in
[1:08:47]
the northern part of
[1:08:52]
the district and northern part
[1:08:53]
of the county And it's I think
[1:08:54]
it's a great opportunity and i
[1:08:54]
know developers and folks are
[1:08:59]
looking for land like pon 22 to
[1:08:59]
bring back to life and
[1:09:04]
obviously in the South Bay for
[1:09:05]
any folks who ever drive over
[1:09:10]
towards going on old state
[1:09:11]
Route 75 Palm Avenue and you're
[1:09:16]
going over towards the ocean
[1:09:17]
it's the big piece of land
[1:09:17]
that's over on your right hand
[1:09:18]
side.
[1:09:18]
Unfortunately that's or
[1:09:23]
fortunately that is what
[1:09:23]
the South Bay has.
[1:09:28]
What we got from the port And
[1:09:29]
so we really want to make sure
[1:09:30]
that it's put to work and that
[1:09:35]
we use it to the best of its
[1:09:35]
ability.
[1:09:36]
So we are going to respond
[1:09:41]
before summertime and we don't
[1:09:41]
know.
[1:09:42]
This is the first time I ever
[1:09:47]
hear of this agency so maybe we
[1:09:47]
need to dissect this in another
[1:09:48]
committee to get to know a
[1:09:53]
little bit more about what are
[1:09:54]
the next steps after that?
[1:09:54]
How long does it take?
[1:09:57]
I don't think we're the first
[1:09:58]
mitigation bank in the nation.
[1:09:58]
We might be I don't know.
[1:10:04]
So just to get more information
[1:10:04]
on what the steps to hold us as
[1:10:05]
legislators accountable and
[1:10:07]
also of you as our fearless
[1:10:08]
port commissioners accountable
[1:10:14]
as well.
[1:10:15]
That sounds great,
[1:10:16]
Councilmember.
[1:10:16]
I will say to you just very
[1:10:19]
quickly this council gave you
[1:10:20]
the honor of serving on our
[1:10:21]
Port Commission in FEBRUARY
[1:10:22]
2024 and I think it was in
[1:10:26]
MARCH of that year when I asked
[1:10:27]
for my first meeting about pon
[1:10:28]
20 because it seems such like
[1:10:31]
an opportunity for us.
[1:10:32]
I will also share that
[1:10:33]
Commissioner Dan Malcolm who
[1:10:37]
represents Imperial Beach he
[1:10:38]
and I have chatted about how he
[1:10:43]
actually was on the Imperial
[1:10:44]
Beach Council in the late 90s
[1:10:47]
when the agreement was made to
[1:10:48]
create pon 20 with a negotiated
[1:10:49]
agreement with environmental
[1:10:50]
justice community as well.
[1:10:54]
So we also have a strong
[1:10:54]
partner in our are our fellow
[1:11:01]
city national in Imperial Beach
[1:11:01]
for moving this forward So and
[1:11:02]
it's in Imperial Beach is
[1:11:06]
former redevelopment district
[1:11:07]
correct which is now confusing
[1:11:08]
because of the disillusion of
[1:11:09]
redevelopment But that's we're
[1:11:12]
not going to get into the weeds
[1:11:13]
of things.
[1:11:14]
I just want to make sure that
[1:11:14]
pon 20 comes to fruition in my
[1:11:15]
lifetime.
[1:11:18]
I'm 43 years old about to turn
[1:11:23]
44 so I will be pushing on that
[1:11:24]
front But thank you for that
[1:11:24]
and obviously more to come.
[1:11:29]
Also equally excited about
[1:11:30]
Harbor Drive 2.0.
[1:11:30]
It's a significant project that
[1:11:31]
will contribute to the vast
[1:11:35]
industry sector and Oriel Logan
[1:11:36]
and also the port And not only
[1:11:37]
will it bring it bring better
[1:11:41]
and nicer infrastructure, it
[1:11:41]
will also mitigate
[1:11:42]
environmental impacts that
[1:11:43]
affect neighboring communities
[1:11:47]
of barrio Logan.
[1:11:48]
For decades the community of
[1:11:49]
Barrio Logan has suffered from
[1:11:53]
systemic disinvestment, limited
[1:11:53]
green space and environmental
[1:11:59]
burden burdens I should say
[1:11:59]
plural.
[1:12:00]
I know Joe has taken the lead
[1:12:01]
on this and I do think I'm for
[1:12:05]
it every time I ask for an
[1:12:06]
update he's quick to respond on
[1:12:10]
what you guys if I MAY take
[1:12:11]
three more minutes of my my
[1:12:12]
time This is obviously a
[1:12:17]
priority for the port and it
[1:12:18]
took a while but I thank you
[1:12:21]
guys for making this one of
[1:12:22]
the lead priorities.
[1:12:22]
It is a significant project
[1:12:28]
within the port so thank you
[1:12:29]
for that Set up Travis Park
[1:12:30]
three acre Park on
[1:12:35]
the Waterfront in Barrio Logan
[1:12:35]
See Meaningful resources
[1:12:36]
directed into Cesar Chavez Park
[1:12:40]
is a major step in the right
[1:12:41]
direction and acknowledgment
[1:12:42]
that our communities deserve
[1:12:46]
the same level of care and
[1:12:46]
opportunity as any other.
[1:12:47]
I also I want to commend port
[1:12:52]
staff who work diligently to
[1:12:52]
advance this particular
[1:12:53]
project.
[1:12:58]
The community meetings
[1:12:58]
regarding Cesar Chavez Park
[1:12:59]
improvements have been just
[1:12:59]
astounding.
[1:13:04]
We give the community a
[1:13:04]
platform to voice their opinion
[1:13:05]
should they have one regarding
[1:13:10]
this this park that they have
[1:13:15]
and want to get a real
[1:13:16]
opportunity to share input
[1:13:16]
raised concerns And the last
[1:13:21]
part is really have them help
[1:13:22]
us shape the future of that
[1:13:22]
park.
[1:13:23]
I think this is what
[1:13:27]
collaboration should look like
[1:13:28]
Agencies working hand in hand
[1:13:32]
with residents listening first
[1:13:32]
and making investments that
[1:13:33]
reflect the community's
[1:13:34]
priorities And I know none of
[1:13:38]
that could have been done
[1:13:39]
without your guys's leadership.
[1:13:44]
So it's an honor to have you
[1:13:45]
guys as our port commissioners.
[1:13:49]
You guys are very open, candid
[1:13:50]
and I think you have
[1:13:51]
the community's best interests
[1:13:55]
at heart and I appreciate that.
[1:13:56]
I appreciate that partnership
[1:14:03]
And so do we have is there a
[1:14:03]
motion on the floor to it's
[1:14:04]
informational item?
[1:14:04]
Okay.
[1:14:05]
Wonderful.
[1:14:05]
We're happy to have you guys
[1:14:08]
when you guys come back before
[1:14:08]
DECEMBER I hope.
[1:14:15]
When do you want us back and do
[1:14:15]
they present is back next week
[1:14:16]
here but we can have to come
[1:14:20]
back maybe like a day after
[1:14:20]
spring is over.
[1:14:21]
No Thank you guys.
[1:14:26]
I appreciate it very much.
[1:14:27]
Counsel, if I MAY, in terms of
[1:14:27]
coming back, I think your idea
[1:14:28]
about a committee hearing with
[1:14:33]
respect to is is a great idea
[1:14:34]
and an appropriate thing
[1:14:34]
because it is a big deal.
[1:14:37]
It has taken forever.
[1:14:38]
Nobody's making any excuses And
[1:14:39]
you heard that list of
[1:14:39]
organizations.
[1:14:45]
It's a you know, no shade on
[1:14:46]
the Army Corps of Engineers or
[1:14:46]
epa or coastal.
[1:14:49]
But it is it is quite a process
[1:14:50]
And Commissioner Moore and I
[1:14:51]
are all in for sure And it's
[1:14:55]
fair to say that Commissioner
[1:14:56]
Ferrara has been particularly
[1:14:57]
all in and leading the way on
[1:14:57]
this.
[1:15:01]
And so I think I think I think
[1:15:02]
he will be the spokesperson for
[1:15:08]
that for the committee meeting
[1:15:09]
>> Thank you.
[1:15:10]
So I see that as a going away
[1:15:10]
present for Councilmember
[1:15:11]
Moreno.
[1:15:14]
I'll wrap it up by DECEMBER.
[1:15:14]
Thank you, Councilmember.
[1:15:14]
Right.
[1:15:15]
And we'll go next to
[1:15:19]
Councilmember Vaughn Wilbert
[1:15:20]
And thank you very much to our
[1:15:20]
three commissioners for your
[1:15:21]
excellent work and for
[1:15:24]
the presentation today you
[1:15:25]
represent the city of San Diego
[1:15:26]
very well and we're glad that
[1:15:26]
you're doing all that hard work
[1:15:30]
on top of your normal lives and
[1:15:31]
jobs.
[1:15:31]
And so please know that I know
[1:15:32]
how hard you work especially
[1:15:33]
since I sit on the airport or
[1:15:36]
you hear all the time about how
[1:15:37]
hard everyone is working.
[1:15:37]
So I appreciate you very much
[1:15:41]
for your work and a huge kudos
[1:15:42]
to the successes on emissions
[1:15:47]
and sustainability.
[1:15:48]
I mean you really are industry
[1:15:49]
leaders in this and it's been
[1:15:50]
incredible to watch And as you
[1:15:54]
know San Diego and we are all
[1:15:54]
beneficiaries of your work in
[1:15:55]
terms of cleaner environment,
[1:15:58]
clean air to breathe And so
[1:15:59]
just in cheaper cheaper energy
[1:16:00]
bills too, you know so it's
[1:16:01]
just really want to thank you
[1:16:04]
for all of that looking forward
[1:16:04]
to all the improvements coming
[1:16:05]
up.
[1:16:06]
I do have one question about
[1:16:10]
the convention center and I see
[1:16:11]
Joe and Scott are here too so
[1:16:12]
I'm excited to hear their
[1:16:16]
thoughts on this.
[1:16:17]
But I know that you know
[1:16:18]
previously the Port of San
[1:16:18]
Diego and the city of San Diego
[1:16:19]
have worked in great
[1:16:22]
partnership to make sure
[1:16:22]
the convention center is
[1:16:23]
maintained and the expansions
[1:16:27]
that we have been working on
[1:16:28]
Your 1996 the Port and the City
[1:16:28]
pointed to great powers
[1:16:32]
agreement issue $200 million in
[1:16:33]
lease revenue bonds to make
[1:16:33]
sure the convention center was
[1:16:34]
taken care of.
[1:16:37]
And I think we're at a point
[1:16:38]
now where we need to do a
[1:16:39]
similar long term bond again
[1:16:39]
for the convention center
[1:16:40]
because they are coming to
[1:16:43]
the city every budget year
[1:16:44]
saying you're $400 million in
[1:16:45]
back maintenance that they have
[1:16:48]
to do just for the basics of
[1:16:49]
the convention center And it's
[1:16:49]
one of our big economic revenue
[1:16:50]
generators that we share with
[1:16:55]
the port And we have been shown
[1:16:56]
videos of, you know, folks who
[1:16:56]
have booked out room in
[1:16:59]
the convention center for
[1:17:00]
the convention halls in water
[1:17:01]
leaking through the roof onto
[1:17:01]
their conventions And nobody
[1:17:05]
needs that when we're competing
[1:17:06]
with you, Francisco we're
[1:17:07]
competing with, you know,
[1:17:07]
the other areas.
[1:17:12]
And so now that we have finally
[1:17:12]
secured the funding of you
[1:17:13]
better see to come to the city
[1:17:16]
of San Diego to increase to you
[1:17:17]
t tax we do have an opportunity
[1:17:18]
to leverage that funding and do
[1:17:23]
another series of at least back
[1:17:23]
revenue bonds or infrastructure
[1:17:24]
bonds but it would be really
[1:17:28]
wonderful to have the ports
[1:17:28]
partnership in that as the city
[1:17:29]
had before because as you might
[1:17:33]
have seen the cities budget
[1:17:34]
deficit isn't the easiest hill
[1:17:34]
for us to tackle And so we MAY
[1:17:38]
need an additional predator
[1:17:39]
like the port to partner with
[1:17:40]
us on that but it's to our
[1:17:44]
joint benefit And so I'm just
[1:17:45]
I'm going to plug you know,
[1:17:46]
reprove it to him and say hey,
[1:17:46]
you guys need to get on this as
[1:17:47]
well.
[1:17:49]
But I'm just hoping the port
[1:17:50]
would be open to those
[1:17:51]
conversations because
[1:17:51]
the convention center is a gem
[1:17:54]
that we both share.
[1:17:55]
So let me just agree with
[1:17:59]
everything you said and begin
[1:18:00]
by thanking you and the rest of
[1:18:01]
the Council for your commitment
[1:18:05]
to the recent approval of
[1:18:06]
expenditure of some of that
[1:18:10]
measure c money for maintenance
[1:18:11]
and capital improvement at
[1:18:12]
the at the Convention Center As
[1:18:16]
you note it's absolutely
[1:18:17]
critical and an expansion
[1:18:22]
ultimately of could prove to be
[1:18:22]
important and a good thing.
[1:18:23]
But what has to happen is we
[1:18:27]
have to we have to not have
[1:18:28]
that tired facility get get
[1:18:28]
more tired And so thank you
[1:18:32]
very much for for for this
[1:18:33]
council's commitment to that.
[1:18:34]
And in terms of your question
[1:18:34]
about going forward and our
[1:18:37]
interest in engaging with you
[1:18:38]
on that, the answer is of
[1:18:39]
course and we look forward to
[1:18:39]
doing it.
[1:18:43]
Okay.
[1:18:44]
Thank you very much.
[1:18:44]
People much smarter than me
[1:18:45]
will be leading those
[1:18:45]
discussions.
[1:18:46]
I just wanted to put it out
[1:18:48]
there that something I think
[1:18:49]
could benefit all of us
[1:18:50]
especially since we finally
[1:18:54]
secured the tax revenue on an
[1:18:54]
ongoing basis.
[1:18:55]
We might as well leverage that.
[1:18:55]
So but thank you.
[1:18:59]
I'm really excited to see all
[1:19:00]
the new projects coming up.
[1:19:01]
The Rady Shell is one of my
[1:19:01]
favorite projects the city in
[1:19:04]
the port and the whole reuse
[1:19:05]
done recently So huge kudos to
[1:19:05]
that.
[1:19:09]
Looking forward to Topgolf and
[1:19:09]
everything else So thank you
[1:19:10]
again for your work.
[1:19:10]
Thank you for representing
[1:19:11]
the city of San Diego so well
[1:19:15]
on our behalf and we appreciate
[1:19:15]
you.
[1:19:15]
Thank you.
[1:19:16]
All right.
[1:19:16]
Thank you.
[1:19:17]
Get some more Bombo.
[1:19:20]
We'll go next to Councilmember
[1:19:20]
Whitman.
[1:19:21]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[1:19:21]
Thank you Vice chair is a cat
[1:19:24]
and commissioner of rock around
[1:19:25]
the commissioner more I was
[1:19:26]
quite an update I really
[1:19:30]
appreciate you taking the time
[1:19:31]
to come in and brief us on all
[1:19:35]
that is new and happening and
[1:19:36]
particularly within the city of
[1:19:36]
San Diego.
[1:19:40]
I think it's worth emphasizing
[1:19:41]
that the Port of San Diego is
[1:19:42]
its own agency, its own
[1:19:45]
jurisdiction But the activities
[1:19:46]
that you highlighted very
[1:19:51]
directly benefit City of San
[1:19:52]
Diego residents and people from
[1:19:52]
around the region.
[1:19:56]
But for our purposes San Diego
[1:19:56]
residents you are doing a lot
[1:19:57]
of good for the city And you
[1:20:01]
look just at some of the things
[1:20:01]
right here downtown Freedom
[1:20:02]
Park is going to be a beautiful
[1:20:06]
new park right along the bay
[1:20:07]
downtown you've got Seaport,
[1:20:07]
San Diego.
[1:20:11]
You were talking about
[1:20:12]
The environmental study are
[1:20:13]
underway and are underway and
[1:20:17]
concluding perhaps by the end
[1:20:17]
of the year that is going to be
[1:20:21]
just a wonderful addition an
[1:20:22]
economic driver to the city.
[1:20:23]
Thank goodness those Navy
[1:20:27]
office buildings are being
[1:20:27]
redeveloped.
[1:20:28]
That'll be good to see like
[1:20:31]
Pacific Highway.
[1:20:32]
You betcha.
[1:20:32]
The Maritime Clean Air
[1:20:37]
Strategy, the electrification
[1:20:38]
of the cruise ship terminal
[1:20:42]
that benefits all of us here
[1:20:43]
that just the number of cruise
[1:20:44]
ship passengers that are
[1:20:47]
activating downtown that I just
[1:20:47]
very much appreciate what
[1:20:52]
the three of you are doing and
[1:20:53]
accomplishing as the city of
[1:20:57]
San Diego as representatives to
[1:20:58]
the Port commission And I want
[1:20:58]
to thank the staff leadership
[1:21:02]
that's here as well for all
[1:21:03]
that they're doing.
[1:21:03]
So thank you.
[1:21:04]
Thank you for all
[1:21:08]
the accomplishments and thank
[1:21:09]
you Council PRESIDENT.
[1:21:09]
All right.
[1:21:10]
Thank you council member for
[1:21:12]
not seeing anybody else in
[1:21:13]
the lights.
[1:21:13]
I'll join the chorus.
[1:21:14]
Thank you to commissioners for
[1:21:17]
taking the time.
[1:21:17]
You know council PRESIDENT I've
[1:21:18]
been reviewing our council
[1:21:19]
policies and how many boards
[1:21:21]
and commissions are supposed to
[1:21:22]
report back to the council on a
[1:21:27]
regular basis and you all are
[1:21:28]
one of the ones that
[1:21:29]
consistently come back year
[1:21:29]
after year.
[1:21:30]
And as Councilmember Moreno
[1:21:32]
said, the transparency in not
[1:21:32]
only the work that you do every
[1:21:37]
day as commissioners as along
[1:21:37]
with your regular lives there
[1:21:38]
is very much appreciated and
[1:21:42]
communicating that to
[1:21:43]
the Council and I'm sure to
[1:21:43]
the mayor's office that
[1:21:44]
the good work that you're doing
[1:21:47]
to make sure that we're all
[1:21:48]
think of can manage this
[1:21:51]
incredible resource that we all
[1:21:58]
get to enjoy the projects you
[1:21:59]
did I my wife and I had a
[1:21:59]
chance to stay at the gallery
[1:22:00]
when I was first open and we
[1:22:01]
went out, took a walk and
[1:22:02]
suddenly we saw this incredible
[1:22:07]
renovation and rebuilding of
[1:22:07]
the environment coastal sage
[1:22:08]
and all that was done to
[1:22:12]
the north There really pretty
[1:22:12]
spectacular in that commitment
[1:22:13]
And I think that really
[1:22:17]
highlights what the port is all
[1:22:17]
about the good work you do
[1:22:18]
every day maybe some people
[1:22:21]
will see it, maybe they won't
[1:22:22]
but it's the right thing to do
[1:22:23]
on on any basis.
[1:22:26]
So thank you for that.
[1:22:27]
You have an amazing staff that
[1:22:28]
gets that work done every day
[1:22:31]
and navigates all
[1:22:32]
the challenges that the Park
[1:22:36]
District faces and has
[1:22:37]
navigated us through
[1:22:37]
the economic downturn of covid
[1:22:41]
and kind of bounced back both
[1:22:42]
for the working waterfront but
[1:22:46]
also for the port tenants and
[1:22:46]
the contribution they make.
[1:22:47]
And I'm certainly an important
[1:22:51]
part of what the city relies
[1:22:51]
on.
[1:22:55]
So thank you for that Good work
[1:22:56]
and I'll highlight
[1:23:00]
the electrification component
[1:23:01]
and yeah that there's no free
[1:23:05]
lunch But you don't you don't
[1:23:06]
turn on a dime when you make
[1:23:06]
that environmental commitment.
[1:23:07]
It takes time.
[1:23:10]
It takes money to make those
[1:23:13]
conversions first Electric
[1:23:18]
Tugboat the largest and most
[1:23:18]
capable electric cranes on
[1:23:23]
the West Coast.
[1:23:24]
Those are big, big ideas and
[1:23:25]
that really shows
[1:23:25]
the leadership And then
[1:23:28]
the whole blue economy and
[1:23:29]
trying to really figure out
[1:23:33]
what else can this bay really
[1:23:33]
provide as a resources Rather
[1:23:34]
extraordinary.
[1:23:37]
So thank you for your
[1:23:38]
commitment and your willingness
[1:23:39]
to continue to lead and I will
[1:23:42]
continue to be jealous about
[1:23:43]
how fast you can move compared
[1:23:48]
to the city and without adding
[1:23:48]
excuses As commissioners you
[1:23:49]
kept said have you been
[1:23:52]
involved in the formation of
[1:23:53]
mitigation banks?
[1:23:53]
It's serious business and every
[1:23:57]
eye has to be dotted and every
[1:23:57]
t has to be crossed to make
[1:23:58]
sure that those who use
[1:24:01]
the mitigation being what it's
[1:24:01]
formed really uphold what
[1:24:02]
the original vision was.
[1:24:06]
So it takes too much time but I
[1:24:07]
know you'll get it done.
[1:24:10]
So thank you for that Good work
[1:24:11]
Thank you To call for my
[1:24:12]
colleagues to good work to do
[1:24:12]
And again we'll just close by
[1:24:15]
saying thank you for taking
[1:24:16]
the time to come out this
[1:24:16]
afternoon.
[1:24:24]
>> Thank you.
[1:24:24]
All right.
[1:24:30]
So we're now we're going to be
[1:24:31]
talking about items two one and
[1:24:32]
two two for those items There
[1:24:34]
will be a joint presentation
[1:24:35]
and combined public comment, a
[1:24:39]
separate vote will be taken for
[1:24:43]
item 2 or 2 and no motion will
[1:24:44]
be required for 2a1 which is
[1:24:44]
just strictly information.
[1:24:49]
So with that clerk please
[1:24:52]
introduce items 201 and 202
[1:24:52]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:24:53]
Item two one is the Dam Safety
[1:24:57]
Program Annual update 2024 to
[1:24:57]
2025.
[1:25:00]
This is an informational item
[1:25:01]
and item 2 or 2 is the award of
[1:25:02]
the as needed dam design
[1:25:06]
services agreements with hdr
[1:25:09]
Engineering Inc age 24 2630
[1:25:10]
47-m and Step Stantec
[1:25:15]
Consulting Services Inc age 24
[1:25:19]
2634 eight hyphen and six words
[1:25:19]
are required pursuant to
[1:25:20]
Charter section 99.
[1:25:21]
If you'd like to speak on this
[1:25:24]
item now's the time to turn in
[1:25:25]
your speaker slip or raise your
[1:25:25]
hand.
[1:25:26]
Star nine I can't Thank you.
[1:25:26]
All right.
[1:25:27]
Thank you.
[1:25:29]
City Clerk With that staff
[1:25:30]
please introduce yourselves for
[1:25:31]
the record and let us know how
[1:25:31]
much time you need for
[1:25:33]
the present combined
[1:25:33]
presentation.
[1:25:38]
Lisa Sliwa came up Kelly Barlow
[1:25:39]
Deputy Director Tiffany Kirk
[1:25:43]
Assistant Deputy Director And
[1:25:43]
we'll need about 20 minutes.
[1:25:44]
All right.
[1:25:44]
When you're ready.
[1:25:47]
Good afternoon.
[1:25:48]
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[1:25:49]
City council members thank you
[1:25:52]
for the opportunity to provide
[1:25:53]
an update on the City of San
[1:25:57]
Diego's Dam safety program.
[1:25:58]
Today's presentation will walk
[1:25:58]
through the condition of our
[1:26:02]
dams and water tanks
[1:26:03]
The programmatic approach we
[1:26:03]
are using in close coordination
[1:26:07]
with our regulator the Division
[1:26:08]
of Safety of Dams as well as
[1:26:12]
the significant progress made
[1:26:13]
over the last over the past
[1:26:13]
year to address both immediate
[1:26:17]
safety needs and long term
[1:26:18]
system resilience.
[1:26:22]
As you will see dam safety is
[1:26:22]
not a single project or
[1:26:23]
timeline.
[1:26:26]
It is a sustained parallel
[1:26:27]
effort to protect public safety
[1:26:28]
Today while planning and
[1:26:32]
delivering the long term
[1:26:32]
investments required to
[1:26:33]
responsibly manage some of
[1:26:35]
the oldest infrastructure in
[1:26:40]
California.
[1:26:41]
>> Dams and water tanks are
[1:26:45]
essential infrastructure for
[1:26:46]
city water systems as they
[1:26:46]
store and deliver water to
[1:26:49]
treatment plants provide
[1:26:50]
emergency emergency reserves
[1:26:54]
during disasters and manage
[1:26:55]
flood risk.
[1:26:55]
The city's public utilities
[1:26:59]
departments dams Safety Program
[1:27:00]
oversees 11 dams and two
[1:27:04]
portable water tanks which all
[1:27:05]
thunder fall all fall under
[1:27:09]
the regulatory juristic ssion
[1:27:10]
of California Department of
[1:27:10]
Water Resources Division of
[1:27:14]
Safety of dams typically
[1:27:19]
referred to as dsd The public
[1:27:19]
Utilities Department
[1:27:20]
coordinates daily with the San
[1:27:20]
Diego Fire Department to ensure
[1:27:24]
our resources are available to
[1:27:24]
assist in their efforts
[1:27:28]
fighting fires.
[1:27:29]
>> To the right you will see
[1:27:30]
some of the different types of
[1:27:30]
water infrastructure the team
[1:27:33]
manages.
[1:27:34]
>> Dams are particularly
[1:27:38]
crucial as they act as barriers
[1:27:38]
creating reservoirs that
[1:27:43]
collect and store large volumes
[1:27:43]
of water.
[1:27:44]
Alongside dams, water tanks
[1:27:48]
play a vital role in our water
[1:27:48]
supply by providing storage
[1:27:52]
capacity, maintaining water
[1:27:53]
pressure throughout the network
[1:27:53]
and ensuring that treated of
[1:27:57]
drinking water remains readily
[1:27:58]
available for distribution
[1:27:59]
during peak You should usage
[1:28:03]
times or in emergency
[1:28:03]
situations.
[1:28:07]
Our reservoirs, dams and water
[1:28:08]
tanks are connected through a
[1:28:09]
network of pipelines, channels
[1:28:12]
and pump stations which
[1:28:13]
facilitate the movement of
[1:28:14]
water to drinking water
[1:28:17]
treatment facilities and to
[1:28:18]
approximately 1.4 million
[1:28:18]
customers.
[1:28:22]
The water from our reservoirs
[1:28:23]
on average makes up to 10 to
[1:28:27]
15% of the city's water supply
[1:28:28]
And we've been able to increase
[1:28:31]
that to 30% in recent years as
[1:28:32]
a result of receiving more
[1:28:36]
rainfall and maximize our
[1:28:37]
operations.
[1:28:37]
As a reminder, water collected
[1:28:41]
in our reservoir costs roughly
[1:28:42]
$400 per acre foot compared to
[1:28:46]
water purchased from our
[1:28:47]
wholesaler the San Diego Water
[1:28:50]
Authority that cost over $2,600
[1:28:50]
per acre foot.
[1:28:51]
With that I'll turn over to
[1:28:55]
Kelly.
[1:28:55]
Thank you, Lisa.
[1:28:59]
Dsd has mandated water level
[1:29:00]
height restrictions on five
[1:29:00]
reservoirs which will remain in
[1:29:04]
place until necessary repairs
[1:29:05]
and improvements are completed.
[1:29:05]
These reservoir restrictions
[1:29:09]
marked a fundamental shift for
[1:29:10]
our dam safety program.
[1:29:11]
Up until this point our program
[1:29:14]
was focused primarily on
[1:29:14]
routine operations and
[1:29:15]
maintenance.
[1:29:15]
In coordination with our
[1:29:19]
regulator, the Public Utilities
[1:29:20]
Department has been working to
[1:29:21]
implement and utilize a forward
[1:29:24]
looking program at dam safety
[1:29:25]
approach.
[1:29:25]
What this slide depicts is
[1:29:29]
the reality of our work today.
[1:29:30]
Dam safety is no longer
[1:29:30]
sequential.
[1:29:31]
It requires a proactive
[1:29:34]
sustained parallel effort where
[1:29:35]
continuous assessments,
[1:29:35]
inspections, maintenance and
[1:29:40]
repair projects are done while
[1:29:40]
we simultaneously plan and
[1:29:44]
develop a long term risk based
[1:29:44]
capital program that will
[1:29:45]
fundamentally reshape the dam
[1:29:49]
system through rehabilitation
[1:29:50]
and replacement and removal
[1:29:54]
over the coming decades.
[1:29:55]
Pd is continuing to implement a
[1:29:55]
nationally recognized dam
[1:29:58]
safety standard integrating
[1:29:59]
strategic planning with
[1:29:59]
comprehensive program
[1:30:00]
management to address both
[1:30:04]
safety and operational
[1:30:04]
challenges.
[1:30:05]
This slide shows the components
[1:30:08]
included in the comprehensive
[1:30:09]
Dam Safety Program which
[1:30:12]
include performing
[1:30:12]
approximately 400 maintenance
[1:30:13]
and inspection activities each
[1:30:16]
year, completing 159 condition
[1:30:17]
assessments to evaluate
[1:30:21]
facility conditions and
[1:30:22]
identify near-term interim and
[1:30:22]
long term risk reduction
[1:30:23]
measures.
[1:30:26]
Designing and construction
[1:30:27]
Constructing approximately 27
[1:30:28]
repair projects.
[1:30:31]
And we've identified at least
[1:30:32]
three long term improvements.
[1:30:35]
We currently estimate that
[1:30:36]
approximately $3 billion will
[1:30:37]
be needed over the coming
[1:30:37]
decades to complete all
[1:30:40]
the improvements.
[1:30:41]
Building our internal team has
[1:30:41]
been a priority.
[1:30:45]
We established a dedicated team
[1:30:46]
in 2020 and now have 110 team
[1:30:50]
members across the city
[1:30:50]
focusing on projects that
[1:30:51]
address critical deficiencies
[1:30:54]
including seismic stability,
[1:30:55]
overtopping, concrete
[1:30:59]
deterioration and erosion.
[1:31:00]
In parallel our last year alone
[1:31:01]
pardon me the program oversight
[1:31:03]
team grew from 8 to 20 full
[1:31:04]
time staff with expertise in
[1:31:04]
both engineering and
[1:31:08]
environmental.
[1:31:09]
>> Our our operations expanded
[1:31:12]
from 4 to 6 dedicated crews and
[1:31:13]
we doubled our equipment
[1:31:14]
resources to be able to deliver
[1:31:16]
more work in-house.
[1:31:17]
In parallel, the program
[1:31:21]
prioritizes ongoing dam safety
[1:31:22]
training to build internal
[1:31:22]
knowledge.
[1:31:26]
But in addition to these
[1:31:26]
internal resources, the dam
[1:31:29]
safety program also requires
[1:31:30]
specialized third party
[1:31:30]
expertise due to the complexity
[1:31:34]
and long term nature of
[1:31:34]
the projects involved.
[1:31:35]
All of these resource
[1:31:39]
resourcing efforts combined
[1:31:39]
enable us to meet increasingly
[1:31:40]
complex and evolving dam safety
[1:31:43]
requirements.
[1:31:44]
Without proper resourcing Puti
[1:31:48]
would not be in a position to
[1:31:49]
proactively manage risk as
[1:31:50]
opposed to reacting to findings
[1:31:53]
from our regulator.
[1:31:53]
Understanding the condition of
[1:31:58]
our dams and water tanks is
[1:31:59]
critical to informing risk
[1:31:59]
based decisions on maintenance
[1:32:02]
repair and long term
[1:32:03]
investments to protect
[1:32:03]
downstream communities and
[1:32:04]
water supply.
[1:32:07]
We are making significant
[1:32:08]
progress and completing
[1:32:09]
assessments for our highest
[1:32:12]
risk and poorest condition dams
[1:32:13]
To date we have completed 60
[1:32:17]
condition assessments with an
[1:32:17]
additional 13 currently in
[1:32:18]
progress and the remaining
[1:32:21]
assessments plan through
[1:32:21]
the year 2032.
[1:32:22]
>> Shown here are pictures of
[1:32:22]
helicopter supported
[1:32:26]
geotechnical drilling and
[1:32:27]
investigations completed last
[1:32:27]
year at Lower Otay and Barrett
[1:32:31]
Dam.
[1:32:31]
Helicopter access is required
[1:32:32]
due to the steep terrain
[1:32:35]
limited access and sensitive
[1:32:36]
environmental resources.
[1:32:37]
These investigations provide
[1:32:41]
critical information on
[1:32:41]
foundation conditions, help
[1:32:42]
confirm future design
[1:32:45]
assumptions and support
[1:32:46]
evaluations of whether the dams
[1:32:46]
can meet modern safety
[1:32:50]
standards.
[1:32:51]
>> While we continue to advance
[1:32:55]
long term planning, near-term
[1:32:55]
repairs and maintenance
[1:32:56]
projects are needed.
[1:32:59]
Over the past year we've
[1:33:00]
completed numerous repairs to
[1:33:01]
address known deficiencies.
[1:33:04]
These included clearing
[1:33:05]
the lower portion of
[1:33:05]
the spillway at El Capitan Dam
[1:33:08]
to restore hydraulic capacity.
[1:33:09]
Completing vault and valve
[1:33:10]
improvements at Miramar Dam to
[1:33:14]
improve reservoir operability.
[1:33:15]
Repairing handrails at Barrett
[1:33:16]
and Lower Otay Dams to support
[1:33:19]
crew access for inspections and
[1:33:20]
maintenance.
[1:33:20]
Looking ahead, 14 repair
[1:33:24]
projects are currently in
[1:33:25]
design to upgrade monitoring
[1:33:29]
systems repair concrete improve
[1:33:29]
outlet works, remove vegetation
[1:33:33]
and strengthen security for
[1:33:34]
additional projects are in
[1:33:35]
planning to address intake
[1:33:35]
restorations and emergency
[1:33:38]
drawdown requirements.
[1:33:39]
And construction on five
[1:33:40]
projects will begin this
[1:33:43]
upcoming calendar year.
[1:33:43]
Additionally, our operations
[1:33:48]
team actively manages Reservoir
[1:33:49]
levels to stay below desired
[1:33:49]
mandated thresholds and has
[1:33:50]
made important system
[1:33:53]
improvements including faster
[1:33:54]
reporting of field issues, real
[1:33:58]
time monitoring of raw water
[1:33:59]
reservoirs through the one rain
[1:33:59]
system and the first ever use
[1:34:03]
of high resolution lighter at
[1:34:04]
El Capitan and Marina Dams to
[1:34:04]
support ongoing monitoring and
[1:34:08]
movement of surface changes.
[1:34:09]
>> As always we are working to
[1:34:13]
balance critical infrastructure
[1:34:13]
needs with affordability for
[1:34:14]
our ratepayers.
[1:34:18]
Program funding comes from
[1:34:18]
the Water Utility Capital
[1:34:19]
Improvement Program and water
[1:34:22]
operating funds And as future
[1:34:23]
costs are refined they will be
[1:34:23]
reflected in party's annual
[1:34:24]
five year financial outlook
[1:34:27]
which informs the city's water
[1:34:27]
rate setting process.
[1:34:32]
We continue to proactively
[1:34:32]
pursue state and federal
[1:34:33]
funding opportunities to help
[1:34:37]
reduce costs for ratepayers.
[1:34:37]
To date $1.7 million in state
[1:34:38]
and federal funding has been
[1:34:41]
secured for ongoing initiatives
[1:34:42]
including seismic stability
[1:34:43]
analysis and geotechnical
[1:34:47]
investigations at El Capitan,
[1:34:47]
Berrett and Hodges Dams as
[1:34:48]
shown on the pictures to
[1:34:51]
the right.
[1:34:51]
>> In total the city has
[1:34:55]
applied for approximately $322
[1:34:55]
million in external funding
[1:34:59]
including $77 million in grant
[1:34:59]
funding and selection by
[1:35:00]
the U.S. Army Corps of
[1:35:01]
Engineers to submit a full
[1:35:04]
application for $241 million
[1:35:05]
and low cost loan financing.
[1:35:08]
Financing for dam improvement
[1:35:13]
projects through the year 2031
[1:35:14]
>> This slide shows a strategic
[1:35:18]
phasing plan to address dam
[1:35:18]
safety across all 13 dso
[1:35:19]
deregulated facilities based on
[1:35:23]
available financing.
[1:35:24]
At the top of the timeline.
[1:35:25]
Each facility is shown with its
[1:35:28]
dso condition rating.
[1:35:29]
In the year we plan to complete
[1:35:30]
long term improvement plans.
[1:35:34]
Dams in fair or unsatisfactory
[1:35:36]
condition are addressed first
[1:35:37]
followed by facilities in
[1:35:38]
satisfactory condition in later
[1:35:38]
years.
[1:35:42]
In addition to facility
[1:35:42]
condition, the timing of
[1:35:43]
the long term improvement
[1:35:46]
planning considers factors such
[1:35:47]
as downstream risk required
[1:35:47]
water level restrictions.
[1:35:51]
The role of each reservoir in
[1:35:52]
the water supply system and
[1:35:53]
coordination with the city's
[1:35:53]
pure water program.
[1:35:56]
At the bottom of this timeline
[1:35:57]
are the program level efforts
[1:35:57]
that guide system wide
[1:36:01]
decisions.
[1:36:01]
This work begins with updating
[1:36:02]
the water model to identify
[1:36:05]
the most critical reservoirs
[1:36:06]
for long term water supply.
[1:36:06]
>> Supporting is goal of
[1:36:09]
increasing local water use to
[1:36:14]
60% by the year 2040.
[1:36:15]
>> In 2028 we plan to complete
[1:36:18]
a program plan to help manage
[1:36:19]
risk and in 2032 we will have
[1:36:20]
the data and plans in place to
[1:36:23]
develop a strategic capital
[1:36:23]
improvement phasing plan that
[1:36:24]
sequences work across
[1:36:28]
the system for decades to come.
[1:36:28]
This information together with
[1:36:29]
condition assessments and long
[1:36:32]
term improvement plans will
[1:36:33]
give us a comprehensive and
[1:36:34]
holistic understanding of which
[1:36:37]
reservoirs are most critical.
[1:36:38]
Where long term infrastructure
[1:36:38]
investments provide
[1:36:39]
the greatest value allowing us
[1:36:42]
to strategically strategically
[1:36:43]
phase dam safety improvements
[1:36:46]
over time.
[1:36:47]
>> This planning is happening
[1:36:48]
alongside active projects with
[1:36:50]
repairs moving forward to keep
[1:36:51]
our dams safe and operational.
[1:36:52]
While long term strategic
[1:36:55]
planning efforts are underway
[1:36:56]
so we know we cannot replace or
[1:37:01]
upgrade all of our high risk
[1:37:01]
dams at the same time.
[1:37:02]
These projects are large
[1:37:06]
complex taking many years to
[1:37:07]
plan, fund design and build.
[1:37:11]
>> Because of this we're using
[1:37:12]
a phased risk based approach.
[1:37:16]
>> Long term improvements are
[1:37:17]
prioritized and sequenced over
[1:37:17]
time while interim repairs are
[1:37:20]
done to manage safety until
[1:37:21]
permanent solutions are
[1:37:25]
delivered.
[1:37:26]
>> City Council's prior
[1:37:26]
approval of our as needed
[1:37:30]
Program Management agreement
[1:37:30]
allows us to assess dam
[1:37:31]
conditions, set priorities and
[1:37:35]
plan this work in phases as
[1:37:36]
shown on the left side of
[1:37:36]
the slide.
[1:37:37]
However that agreement supports
[1:37:41]
planning and assessments only.
[1:37:41]
It does not include
[1:37:42]
the designer construction
[1:37:44]
oversight services needed to
[1:37:45]
implement repair projects.
[1:37:46]
The next step is securing new
[1:37:50]
as needed dam design service
[1:37:50]
agreements.
[1:37:51]
So priority dam safety projects
[1:37:55]
can move forward from planning
[1:37:55]
into design and construction
[1:37:59]
helping to avoid emergency
[1:38:00]
driven actions and to ensure
[1:38:00]
steady responsible progress.
[1:38:05]
Without these design service
[1:38:06]
contracts we would be unable to
[1:38:06]
move forward immediately with
[1:38:10]
critical dam safety repair
[1:38:10]
projects.
[1:38:14]
Shown on this slide are some
[1:38:15]
examples of upcoming dam safety
[1:38:16]
projects at Murray Sutherland
[1:38:18]
and Lower Otay Dams that
[1:38:19]
require design work before
[1:38:23]
the projects can move forward.
[1:38:24]
>> While long term improvements
[1:38:25]
are being implemented, a
[1:38:29]
process that can take decades.
[1:38:29]
Interim projects are needed to
[1:38:33]
manage risks and maintain
[1:38:33]
regulatory compliance.
[1:38:34]
Examples of projects include
[1:38:38]
seismic upgrades to Murray
[1:38:39]
Outlet Tower and Dam structure
[1:38:43]
intake and outlet improvements
[1:38:43]
at Sutherland Reservoir.
[1:38:48]
Concrete repairs at lower Otay
[1:38:49]
to main structural to maintain
[1:38:49]
structural integrity and safe
[1:38:52]
access all of these projects.
[1:38:53]
>> These projects range from
[1:38:57]
smaller but critical repairs
[1:38:58]
around $80 million to major
[1:38:59]
rehabilitation projects costing
[1:39:03]
upwards of 40 to $80 million.
[1:39:03]
From initial studies through
[1:39:07]
design, environmental review
[1:39:08]
permitting and construction
[1:39:11]
individual dam safety projects
[1:39:12]
can take 7 to 10 years or more
[1:39:16]
to deliver.
[1:39:16]
That brings us to the action
[1:39:17]
item for your consideration
[1:39:17]
today.
[1:39:21]
Pd is proposing 210 year as
[1:39:22]
needed dam design services
[1:39:22]
contracts.
[1:39:26]
Each in an amount not to exceed
[1:39:27]
$75 million.
[1:39:28]
It's important to note this
[1:39:31]
work was included in the water
[1:39:32]
rates Council approved last
[1:39:36]
year is in this budget as well
[1:39:36]
as our five year outlook.
[1:39:37]
Council will hear an annual dam
[1:39:40]
safety update and have an
[1:39:41]
opportunity during each budget
[1:39:42]
and five year outlook process
[1:39:45]
as well as any future rate case
[1:39:46]
to receive additional
[1:39:47]
information on this program and
[1:39:50]
its associated spending.
[1:39:51]
Highly skilled experts in dam
[1:39:55]
design and engineering,
[1:39:56]
environmental compliance and
[1:39:56]
construction support will
[1:39:57]
complement the strong internal
[1:40:00]
team we have built.
[1:40:00]
The proposed contract duration
[1:40:01]
and amount are based on
[1:40:04]
detailed engineering estimates
[1:40:05]
and historical data aligning
[1:40:06]
with the extensive time frame
[1:40:09]
needed for specialized dam
[1:40:10]
repair and rehabilitation
[1:40:14]
projects long term as needed
[1:40:15]
Design agreements ensure
[1:40:19]
continuity of expertise,
[1:40:20]
regulatory coordination and
[1:40:20]
timely delivery of required
[1:40:24]
critical dam safety work.
[1:40:24]
>> The rfp selection process
[1:40:28]
began in 2020 for two firms hdr
[1:40:29]
and stantec were selected as
[1:40:32]
the preferred providers
[1:40:32]
following a qualifications
[1:40:33]
based selection.
[1:40:34]
Both firms would work on a
[1:40:37]
rotating basis task order basis
[1:40:38]
ensuring fairness and
[1:40:38]
consistent access to dam design
[1:40:42]
expertise.
[1:40:43]
Listed on this slide are
[1:40:43]
the services the agreements
[1:40:47]
will provide including dam
[1:40:48]
engineering analysis, design
[1:40:48]
development permit and
[1:40:52]
regulatory coordination,
[1:40:53]
environmental planning and
[1:40:53]
construction phase engineering
[1:40:57]
support.
[1:40:58]
The consultants will support
[1:40:58]
the study delivery of
[1:40:59]
maintenance repair and
[1:41:02]
rehabilitation projects for
[1:41:03]
spillways outlets and dam
[1:41:07]
structures.
[1:41:08]
Pd is requesting your approval
[1:41:11]
of 210 year as needed dam
[1:41:12]
design services agreements with
[1:41:12]
hdr and Stantec each in an
[1:41:17]
amount not to exceed $75
[1:41:17]
million funded through
[1:41:18]
the water utilities ip and
[1:41:22]
operating fund and included
[1:41:22]
within both the recently
[1:41:25]
approved water rates and
[1:41:26]
periods five five year outlook.
[1:41:27]
Each agreement would carry a
[1:41:29]
minimum spend of $1,000.
[1:41:30]
These agreements are essential
[1:41:34]
for delivering critical dam
[1:41:35]
safety projects ensuring that
[1:41:36]
our dams and water tanks remain
[1:41:39]
safe, reliable and compliant
[1:41:40]
with dsd requirements while
[1:41:41]
continuing to meet community
[1:41:44]
needs for decades to come.
[1:41:45]
Importantly, these are as
[1:41:45]
needed agreements.
[1:41:49]
There is no obligation to use
[1:41:50]
the full contract amount.
[1:41:50]
The work is authorized only
[1:41:54]
through individual task orders
[1:41:55]
even if the full value were
[1:41:55]
utilized over the ten year
[1:41:55]
term.
[1:41:56]
It would equate to
[1:41:59]
approximately $7.5 million per
[1:41:59]
year.
[1:42:04]
Each contract this provides us
[1:42:04]
long term flexibility rather
[1:42:05]
than a single upfront
[1:42:05]
commitment.
[1:42:09]
Your support for these four
[1:42:10]
the ordinances requested today
[1:42:13]
for approval of the two as
[1:42:13]
needed dam design services
[1:42:14]
agreements will help us
[1:42:17]
continue to safeguard our water
[1:42:18]
infrastructure, protect
[1:42:18]
the public, meet our regulatory
[1:42:22]
requirements and enhance
[1:42:22]
the resilience and
[1:42:23]
sustainability of our water
[1:42:23]
system.
[1:42:27]
We thank you for your
[1:42:28]
consideration and we are here
[1:42:28]
to answer any questions you MAY
[1:42:31]
have.
[1:42:31]
All right.
[1:42:32]
Thank you very much for
[1:42:33]
the presentation And with that.
[1:42:36]
Clerk Please proceed with
[1:42:36]
public comment.
[1:42:37]
Thank you.
[1:42:37]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:42:38]
We have several speakers here
[1:42:41]
and online.
[1:42:42]
Rhonda Farrar If you come
[1:42:43]
please come forward.
[1:42:43]
You'll have time ceded to you
[1:42:46]
by Mary Ellen Lee here If you
[1:42:47]
can please raise your hand.
[1:42:48]
Thank you so much.
[1:42:51]
And if I can have the following
[1:42:51]
individuals please come forward
[1:42:52]
to the other reserved seats.
[1:42:56]
Monique Glacier Steve Lazar and
[1:42:57]
Robert Dudley.
[1:42:57]
If you can all please come out
[1:43:00]
to the other reserved seats.
[1:43:01]
You will have two minutes for
[1:43:01]
item 201.
[1:43:05]
Please proceed when ready.
[1:43:05]
Good afternoon.
[1:43:06]
Honorable Council PRESIDENT
[1:43:10]
Council members and City Staff.
[1:43:11]
My name is Rhonda Farrar and
[1:43:11]
I'm PRESIDENT Of the Friends of
[1:43:15]
Lake Hodges whose mission is to
[1:43:16]
support local government
[1:43:16]
efforts to improve Lake Hodges
[1:43:19]
Dam safety and capacity.
[1:43:20]
Water quality wildlife habitat
[1:43:24]
and public access for
[1:43:25]
the benefit of our community.
[1:43:26]
For over a hundred years Lake
[1:43:29]
Hodges has been a crown jewel
[1:43:30]
in North County a vital
[1:43:30]
drinking water reservoir, a
[1:43:34]
critical habitat for wildlife
[1:43:35]
and a recreational haven for
[1:43:35]
hikers, birders, fishermen and
[1:43:39]
paddlers.
[1:43:40]
But the dam that makes this
[1:43:41]
lake possible is currently
[1:43:43]
unsafe and in danger of
[1:43:44]
failing.
[1:43:44]
Council members This is not a
[1:43:45]
future problem.
[1:43:46]
This is a current crisis.
[1:43:48]
The existing dam is 108 years
[1:43:49]
old and deemed unsatisfactory
[1:43:49]
by the dsd.
[1:43:53]
It is the worst It's in
[1:43:54]
the worst shape of all the dams
[1:43:55]
in California which is why
[1:43:58]
the state has mandated
[1:43:59]
construction begin by 2029.
[1:44:03]
While we applaud the city's
[1:44:03]
plan to evaluate all the dams
[1:44:04]
in San Diego, it is most
[1:44:05]
concerning that the current
[1:44:08]
study of the Lake Hodges
[1:44:08]
alternatives is now expected to
[1:44:09]
be delayed until the end of
[1:44:12]
the year.
[1:44:13]
Lake Hodges has the largest
[1:44:16]
watershed in San Diego.
[1:44:17]
One inch of rain can raise
[1:44:18]
the lake and the entire lake a
[1:44:18]
foot.
[1:44:21]
There is too much building
[1:44:22]
downstream in Rancho Santa Fe
[1:44:23]
and the other communities there
[1:44:27]
for there not to be a dam for
[1:44:27]
flood control.
[1:44:28]
We need a new dam.
[1:44:28]
If the dam fails tomorrow
[1:44:31]
downstream communities would be
[1:44:31]
flooded.
[1:44:32]
Lake Hodges would become a
[1:44:35]
stagnant pool of wildlife that
[1:44:36]
and the wildlife that inhabit
[1:44:36]
the lake would die.
[1:44:37]
We would lose the ability to
[1:44:41]
provide water to the Rancho
[1:44:42]
Santa Fe and find a little
[1:44:42]
water districts.
[1:44:45]
The San Diego Lagoon which
[1:44:46]
taxpayers have spent millions
[1:44:46]
of dollars restoring would dry
[1:44:50]
up decimating the wetlands and
[1:44:50]
endangered bird populations
[1:44:51]
that depend on it.
[1:44:53]
And the $208 million pumped
[1:44:54]
storage facility our region's
[1:44:58]
largest battery for clean
[1:44:58]
energy would be rendered
[1:44:59]
useless.
[1:44:59]
We would lose the ability to
[1:45:00]
move water where it's needed
[1:45:03]
during a drought.
[1:45:04]
A new dawn needs to be
[1:45:05]
designed, funded and built as
[1:45:05]
soon as possible.
[1:45:08]
Is the best source of drinking
[1:45:09]
water for downstream water
[1:45:10]
districts and the lowest cost
[1:45:14]
water available to the region.
[1:45:15]
>> Although the water authority
[1:45:15]
does not care for that comment.
[1:45:17]
I thought four minutes.
[1:45:18]
You have two minutes.
[1:45:19]
You had one person set your
[1:45:19]
time.
[1:45:21]
You only submitted four Item
[1:45:22]
201 Did you want to speak to
[1:45:24]
item 2 or 2 as well?
[1:45:25]
Can I finish please continue.
[1:45:29]
I just have another minute.
[1:45:30]
Um a new down needs to be
[1:45:30]
designed, funded and built as
[1:45:31]
soon as possible Is the best
[1:45:33]
source of drinking water for
[1:45:34]
downstream water districts and
[1:45:35]
the lowest cost of water
[1:45:38]
available to the region.
[1:45:39]
Although the Water authority
[1:45:40]
does not currently believe it
[1:45:40]
needs the water in Lake Hodges
[1:45:43]
for the regions that is likely
[1:45:44]
to change over the hundred year
[1:45:45]
life Its life expectancy of a
[1:45:48]
new dam.
[1:45:49]
The new dam needs to be at
[1:45:49]
least of sufficient height to
[1:45:50]
allow the transfer of water to
[1:45:52]
the rest of the region's water
[1:45:53]
supply and for the billions of
[1:45:54]
gallons of water a precious
[1:45:58]
rainwater to not be released to
[1:45:59]
the ocean for the next hundred
[1:45:59]
years.
[1:46:02]
The friends of Lake Hodges
[1:46:03]
represents thousands of
[1:46:04]
residents who use this lake.
[1:46:04]
We're asking you to prioritize
[1:46:07]
the safety and reliability for
[1:46:08]
our region.
[1:46:08]
We're asking you to direct
[1:46:09]
staff to expedite the design
[1:46:12]
building and construction
[1:46:13]
process to meet the state's
[1:46:13]
2029 deadline for construction.
[1:46:18]
We ask you to collaborate with
[1:46:18]
the city, county and federal
[1:46:22]
governments to secure funding
[1:46:22]
for this project.
[1:46:23]
Every month we wait,
[1:46:23]
construction costs rise and
[1:46:26]
the risk of catastrophic
[1:46:27]
failure increases.
[1:46:27]
We are gambling with a critical
[1:46:28]
piece of our instruction
[1:46:32]
infrastructure.
[1:46:32]
Should this dam fail, the cost
[1:46:33]
of building a new down would
[1:46:36]
increase exponentially than
[1:46:37]
the cost of replacing the dam
[1:46:37]
now with existing down in
[1:46:38]
place.
[1:46:41]
Let's not wait for disaster.
[1:46:42]
Let's prevent it.
[1:46:43]
On behalf of the thousands who
[1:46:46]
live work and play around Lake
[1:46:46]
Hodges, I urge you to direct
[1:46:47]
staff to expedite this project.
[1:46:50]
Let's get this done.
[1:46:51]
>> Thank you.
[1:46:51]
Thank you.
[1:46:54]
Next is Monique.
[1:46:57]
You're speaking on item 2 or 2
[1:46:58]
You'll have one minute.
[1:47:03]
Please proceed.
[1:47:04]
My name is Monique Lesher and
[1:47:06]
I'm representing Ray's Lake
[1:47:07]
Hodges and 80,000 San Diegans
[1:47:12]
and an entire wetlands
[1:47:12]
ecosystem.
[1:47:13]
As someone who's worked for
[1:47:16]
environmental organizations for
[1:47:17]
most of my life, I'm happy to
[1:47:18]
see your devotion to
[1:47:18]
the environment.
[1:47:22]
But Lake Hodges is a
[1:47:23]
environmental tragedy waiting
[1:47:26]
to happen.
[1:47:27]
We support a new dam but
[1:47:30]
the city budget clearly does
[1:47:31]
not support a $300 million
[1:47:32]
repair replacement any time
[1:47:32]
soon.
[1:47:40]
So in the meantime, Lake Hodges
[1:47:40]
remains at 280ft.
[1:47:41]
That's roughly 16% capacity And
[1:47:45]
the sand to Gila River Valley
[1:47:46]
is paying the price.
[1:47:46]
The lake is not just a
[1:47:46]
reservoir.
[1:47:50]
It's wildlife corridor.
[1:47:50]
It's a wetland ecosystem and it
[1:47:51]
is a fire buffer.
[1:47:55]
There has been no environmental
[1:47:59]
impact upstream of the dam and
[1:48:00]
the lake bed is drying out.
[1:48:04]
The grabs there used to be Wow,
[1:48:05]
that was fast.
[1:48:05]
>> All right.
[1:48:06]
Thank you.
[1:48:10]
Thank you.
[1:48:10]
The timer is there in
[1:48:11]
the corner so you can monitor
[1:48:11]
your time.
[1:48:12]
Steve Leisure your speaking on
[1:48:18]
item 202.
[1:48:18]
Hello.
[1:48:19]
My name is Steve Lush.
[1:48:22]
I'm also part of the Hodges
[1:48:22]
gang here.
[1:48:23]
I just want to talk a little
[1:48:26]
bit about the unintended cost
[1:48:27]
you know the cascade of cost
[1:48:31]
that's involved in this.
[1:48:32]
So what happens is our property
[1:48:36]
taxes are elevated because
[1:48:37]
the amount of the our home
[1:48:37]
values actually continues to
[1:48:41]
decrease.
[1:48:41]
A great example that would be
[1:48:42]
the Pacific Palisades
[1:48:43]
The tragedy tragedies happened
[1:48:45]
there More than 90% of
[1:48:46]
the people have yet to receive
[1:48:47]
any insurance and
[1:48:51]
the California fire plan less
[1:48:51]
than 10% have received
[1:48:51]
anything.
[1:48:52]
Those that have have only
[1:48:56]
received an average of 10% of
[1:48:57]
what they file for were next in
[1:48:57]
line for that to happen.
[1:49:01]
So the cost of property taxes
[1:49:02]
are inappropriate and our
[1:49:05]
property taxes California for
[1:49:06]
our plan says no our properties
[1:49:07]
are worth less.
[1:49:12]
In addition our water costs are
[1:49:17]
higher borrowing rates are
[1:49:17]
higher, there's no competition.
[1:49:18]
Selling our properties will be
[1:49:22]
harder for most of our property
[1:49:22]
we can't get insurance for.
[1:49:23]
>> So anyway there's a lot of
[1:49:24]
cascade effects that go on.
[1:49:24]
Thank you for that concluding
[1:49:34]
comment Robert Good afternoon.
[1:49:35]
I'm Robert Dudley and I am
[1:49:39]
the city of San Diego as my
[1:49:40]
closest neighbor I also am on
[1:49:44]
the cac council which I
[1:49:44]
appreciate the patience and and
[1:49:49]
contribution of Council
[1:49:50]
PRESIDENT Lacob and and
[1:49:53]
Councilmember Wilbur I brought
[1:49:54]
this up probably two years ago
[1:49:59]
and in that time we have lost
[1:50:03]
we've lost opportunity.
[1:50:03]
The big difference is what
[1:50:06]
happened in L.A. The fires of
[1:50:11]
L.A. Have changed everything.
[1:50:12]
Last week the mayor directed
[1:50:16]
the pound of flesh more
[1:50:17]
precious water, local water
[1:50:17]
downstream to the ocean.
[1:50:18]
While the city has done nothing
[1:50:22]
to address dam conditions for
[1:50:22]
years.
[1:50:26]
So I stand in favor of
[1:50:26]
the action now before us.
[1:50:27]
Repair and replacement of
[1:50:28]
the dam Restoring the city's
[1:50:31]
commitment to the emergency
[1:50:31]
storage project.
[1:50:36]
Empirically there has been MAY
[1:50:39]
be extending an additional two
[1:50:40]
minutes for 2 or 1 It would be
[1:50:41]
an additional minute for 2a1.
[1:50:45]
Thank you.
[1:50:48]
See So there has been no major
[1:50:52]
dam collapse in California
[1:50:53]
since 1928.
[1:50:53]
At the same time we've seen
[1:50:58]
increases in the risk of fire
[1:50:58]
throughout California.
[1:51:03]
This body must recognize that
[1:51:03]
urban wildfire represents
[1:51:04]
the greatest acceptance of
[1:51:07]
natural threat to the citizens
[1:51:07]
of San Diego.
[1:51:10]
The Palisades and Altadena
[1:51:11]
Fires of 2025 and the Camp Fire
[1:51:15]
of 20 2018 Collective only
[1:51:18]
resulted in 116 deaths 255,000
[1:51:23]
displaced citizens and more
[1:51:23]
than 34,000 structures
[1:51:27]
destroyed with a loss of $16
[1:51:27]
billion.
[1:51:28]
What have we learned?
[1:51:32]
In the interim the incident
[1:51:32]
captains reported that each
[1:51:33]
that each situation the fires
[1:51:37]
were behaving like they'd never
[1:51:38]
seen before.
[1:51:38]
Fires are different than they
[1:51:42]
were in past years.
[1:51:43]
So we really need to address
[1:51:44]
this And I would support I
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would run that said that we
[1:51:48]
really need to look at
[1:51:48]
replacement of this dam.
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And in the meantime your time
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has expired.
[1:51:53]
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I started the five minute timer
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going to those that does
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conclude public comment here in
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council chambers.
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I've started the five minute
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timer going to those
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participating remotely.
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We currently have four speakers
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in the queue.
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Please be sure to let me know
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which item or items you wish to
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speak to when I unmute you.
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John Stump If you can please
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unmute.
[1:52:10]
>> Thank you.
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I'm speaking about items two.
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>> You'll have two minutes one
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minute each.
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Please proceed.
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Thank you.
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I support this item.
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I'm particularly concerned
[1:52:24]
about the dam called Troilus.
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The dam called Troilus is
[1:52:29]
the City Park Choice Lake.
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This dam is more than 110 years
[1:52:33]
old of a unique type.
[1:52:38]
No longer built And if it
[1:52:42]
failed it would flood to
[1:52:43]
the San Diego Bay, endanger
[1:52:46]
some 5000 homes and 10,000
[1:52:47]
sleeping residents.
[1:52:51]
You have engineers on your
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council and they could look at
[1:52:56]
the structure This dam it's
[1:53:00]
very strange.
[1:53:05]
What I ask is that the council
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look into opportunities to fill
[1:53:15]
Troilus Lake instead of with
[1:53:16]
potable water which it's doing
[1:53:20]
now but with either using pure
[1:53:25]
water or storm water.
[1:53:26]
Finally if you look at
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the staff report, nowhere in
[1:53:31]
the staff report do they talk
[1:53:34]
about the stakeholders as being
[1:53:39]
parks and Recreation and
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the recreation councils and
[1:53:44]
the community councils.
[1:53:45]
We need the staff reports in
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the future and this contract to
[1:53:54]
consult with parks and
[1:53:54]
Recreation concerning Troilus
[1:53:59]
Lake Dam.
[1:53:59]
>> Thank you very much.
[1:54:00]
Keep us safe.
[1:54:03]
Thank you.
[1:54:04]
Next is phone number ending in
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8700.
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If you can do sorry if you can
[1:54:09]
please unmute.
[1:54:23]
8700 apologies 8700 I have sent
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you to unmute your press star
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six to unmute.
[1:54:30]
Hello.
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Yes hello.
[1:54:31]
Are you speaking?
[1:54:35]
Can you hear me?
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Yes I can hear you.
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Okay well I did the story six
[1:54:40]
both times perfectly so I don't
[1:54:43]
know what happened.
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50 City Clerk I will be doing
[1:54:44]
both items.
[1:54:44]
Thank you.
[1:54:47]
Please proceed.
[1:54:52]
Um, first of all Pudi and and
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you know everyone involved in
[1:54:57]
this.
[1:54:58]
You have my full support.
[1:54:58]
This is a mess.
[1:55:02]
But to put that behind us we've
[1:55:03]
got what we've got Now you have
[1:55:06]
my full support.
[1:55:09]
The Colorado River Aqueduct is
[1:55:10]
42 miles long.
[1:55:11]
It provides 50 to 60% of our
[1:55:11]
water.
[1:55:15]
Local dams such as Lake Hodges.
[1:55:19]
Thank you speakers for speaking
[1:55:20]
up for Lake Hodges.
[1:55:20]
Love you.
[1:55:24]
So Lake Hodges and the other
[1:55:25]
dams act as critical storage
[1:55:29]
for this important water.
[1:55:34]
Blending it with local runoff
[1:55:34]
to supply the city with
[1:55:35]
the water we need.
[1:55:39]
Dam safety equals ongoing
[1:55:39]
maintenance.
[1:55:43]
Deferred maintenance is not
[1:55:43]
safe.
[1:55:44]
It creates high risk.
[1:55:48]
As I said, this whole thing
[1:55:53]
the whole water supply system
[1:55:53]
it's a mess.
[1:55:54]
But let let's look for
[1:55:58]
the opportunities and let's go
[1:55:59]
there and do it whatever we
[1:55:59]
need to do.
[1:56:03]
Now you have my full support
[1:56:04]
and I just love all of you.
[1:56:07]
This is really tough work.
[1:56:07]
Okay.
[1:56:08]
Until two quite a lot of
[1:56:13]
the under-representation is
[1:56:13]
there in both hdr and Stantec
[1:56:18]
Both.
[1:56:18]
Both companies do report
[1:56:22]
progress in reducing
[1:56:23]
the under-representation.
[1:56:24]
So I was glad to see that
[1:56:24]
statement.
[1:56:27]
But I'm really really not happy
[1:56:28]
with seeing how much is
[1:56:32]
underrepresented Asian
[1:56:32]
represented.
[1:56:33]
So I was confused by the tbd
[1:56:37]
that to be decided They were
[1:56:42]
all over the eeoc report.
[1:56:42]
And I've never seen that before
[1:56:43]
ever.
[1:56:46]
So I don't know what that's all
[1:56:46]
about.
[1:56:47]
But in any case water, water,
[1:56:51]
water your time has concluded.
[1:56:52]
My apologies Hector, if you can
[1:56:56]
please unmute.
[1:56:56]
That also concludes the five
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minute timer.
[1:56:57]
We have two additional
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speakers.
[1:57:00]
No other speakers will be taken
[1:57:01]
Hector, please let me know
[1:57:02]
which items you wish to speak
[1:57:02]
to.
[1:57:06]
I'd like to speak to both of
[1:57:06]
them.
[1:57:07]
Thanks for taking my call this
[1:57:07]
time.
[1:57:11]
Well, ma'am, when you listen
[1:57:11]
when you listen to this when I
[1:57:12]
listen to this, you guys are
[1:57:16]
way over your head on this man.
[1:57:17]
Here's five years.
[1:57:17]
You guys can't even figure out
[1:57:20]
a parking meter And the roof
[1:57:21]
leaks at the convention center
[1:57:25]
for months and you can't hire a
[1:57:25]
couple of roofers.
[1:57:26]
You guys are way over your
[1:57:26]
head.
[1:57:29]
I think the Lake Hodges lady
[1:57:30]
should contract a private
[1:57:34]
investor to build a dam for
[1:57:34]
profit.
[1:57:38]
Give them the water rights and
[1:57:39]
give them the electric
[1:57:40]
generator at the bottom.
[1:57:40]
They could generate
[1:57:41]
electricity.
[1:57:44]
Negotiate a rates through
[1:57:44]
the water.
[1:57:48]
Let him on the dam and he could
[1:57:48]
build a dam like 20ft higher
[1:57:52]
than it is State of the art
[1:57:53]
Like a 50 yards a hundred yards
[1:57:57]
below the other dam and water
[1:57:58]
rose up 20ft above the existing
[1:58:02]
dam and leave it and everyone
[1:58:03]
would be cool.
[1:58:04]
It's just a matter of
[1:58:04]
negotiating.
[1:58:07]
Talk to the back door.
[1:58:08]
What's up big company Big time
[1:58:09]
Guys can build the dam They
[1:58:12]
design it, they build it, they
[1:58:13]
own it and we'll let them and
[1:58:17]
we'll let them charge for
[1:58:17]
water.
[1:58:18]
Give us a discount rate on
[1:58:19]
the water and power that it
[1:58:22]
generates over time over 100
[1:58:22]
years.
[1:58:23]
There could be some guys
[1:58:27]
that'll do it big time dudes
[1:58:27]
and know how to build dams
[1:58:31]
instead of having the and
[1:58:32]
the other other guys don't even
[1:58:32]
talk about Lake Hodges.
[1:58:37]
Look at the other dams There's
[1:58:38]
so many other dams can look at
[1:58:40]
because if you study they cause
[1:58:41]
you know it's got to go and we
[1:58:42]
got to get some make it
[1:58:45]
profitable for somebody just
[1:58:46]
build it and you know they
[1:58:50]
build it huge It'll be a great
[1:58:51]
investment and the city won't
[1:58:51]
need to touch it.
[1:58:55]
Cities just wasting their money
[1:58:55]
looking at it they don't got
[1:58:56]
the money.
[1:58:59]
They don't even have The money
[1:59:00]
is it's not even there.
[1:59:04]
Thanks a lot.
[1:59:05]
Our next speaker is Blair
[1:59:05]
Beekman.
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If you can please unmute.
[1:59:14]
Okay that's perfect.
[1:59:15]
I hope you can hear me.
[1:59:16]
I think it's going to be really
[1:59:19]
bad today I'm on an airplane
[1:59:20]
headed back to San Diego from
[1:59:24]
Maui.
[1:59:29]
Um typically after uh we're
[1:59:29]
talking on both items work
[1:59:38]
after Yes yes, Yes, ma'am.
[1:59:38]
Please get in here.
[1:59:39]
Yes, sir.
[1:59:39]
It's okay.
[1:59:39]
Okay.
[1:59:43]
I have to hang up now.
[1:59:47]
Lake Yes, I offer I've got a
[1:59:48]
good for San Diego's going up
[1:59:48]
there but it is around You
[1:59:51]
keep up the good work.
[1:59:52]
>> Have these items a lot on
[1:59:53]
city council meetings.
[1:59:53]
Thank you.
[1:59:54]
Our final speaker is Kathleen
[1:59:58]
Lippert.
[1:59:59]
Thank you for letting me speak.
[2:00:04]
California is a I'd like to
[2:00:05]
speak to both items please.
[2:00:08]
>> 1 to 1 and 102 Can you hear
[2:00:08]
me?
[2:00:09]
Please proceed.
[2:00:13]
California is a desert and
[2:00:13]
water is a necessary and
[2:00:14]
limited resource of the highest
[2:00:17]
priority.
[2:00:18]
Instead the public has watched
[2:00:19]
as dam conditions have eroded
[2:00:23]
not just Lake Hodges.
[2:00:23]
The city was warned four years
[2:00:27]
ago that Lake Hodges was deemed
[2:00:28]
in need of critical repair but
[2:00:29]
once again City postponed and
[2:00:32]
redirected funds reserved for
[2:00:33]
addressing dam maintenance and
[2:00:33]
repair to numerous other
[2:00:37]
projects none of which are as
[2:00:38]
critical as potable water for
[2:00:42]
the public.
[2:00:42]
The costs of deferred spending
[2:00:47]
for critical resource our water
[2:00:48]
went has gone down from $400
[2:00:51]
per acre foot to 2600 for
[2:00:51]
imported water.
[2:00:55]
It's inexcusable that the city
[2:00:56]
failed to recognize that a dam
[2:00:57]
over 100 years old should have
[2:01:00]
been monitored regularly for
[2:01:01]
necessary repairs.
[2:01:05]
Its structural degradation and
[2:01:06]
defects were only discovered in
[2:01:06]
2022.
[2:01:10]
A full replacement of the Time
[2:01:11]
dam is currently being planned
[2:01:14]
for repair but it won't be done
[2:01:15]
until 2034.
[2:01:19]
We wasted $11 billion worth of
[2:01:20]
water that had to be flushed
[2:01:23]
out to the ocean because Lake
[2:01:24]
Hodges couldn't accommodate
[2:01:28]
the increased water levels to
[2:01:29]
preserve human life and
[2:01:29]
property and comply with state
[2:01:33]
regulators.
[2:01:38]
And in a 2019 order please stop
[2:01:39]
postponing projects that you
[2:01:43]
have money set aside to monitor
[2:01:47]
and start putting it towards
[2:01:48]
special interest projects.
[2:01:52]
Thank you for letting me speak
[2:01:53]
>> Thank you.
[2:01:54]
That concludes public comment
[2:01:54]
on these items.
[2:01:55]
All right.
[2:01:55]
Thank you.
[2:01:57]
City clerk We'll turn it over
[2:01:58]
to my colleagues for questions
[2:02:02]
and comments Again.
[2:02:03]
201 is a information item no
[2:02:06]
actions required 202 does
[2:02:06]
require a motion And we'll
[2:02:07]
start with the chair of
[2:02:11]
the active Transportation and
[2:02:12]
Infrastructure Committee,
[2:02:12]
Councilmember Whitman.
[2:02:13]
Thank you.
[2:02:16]
Council PRESIDENT.
[2:02:16]
A couple of other questions
[2:02:17]
since we did discuss this and
[2:02:20]
active transportation and
[2:02:20]
Infrastructure Committee but I
[2:02:21]
think the points are important
[2:02:25]
to capture here at the council
[2:02:26]
meeting as well The design
[2:02:30]
services that are covered by
[2:02:30]
these proposed contracts
[2:02:31]
between the city and hdr and
[2:02:34]
stantec those will be provided
[2:02:39]
and as needed basis and in
[2:02:40]
other words the city will only
[2:02:40]
pay for the design services
[2:02:44]
that it requests and receives,
[2:02:44]
correct?
[2:02:45]
That is correct, sir.
[2:02:49]
We've been hearing a lot of
[2:02:50]
discussion around the future of
[2:02:54]
Lake Hodges Dam.
[2:02:59]
The state has ordered that
[2:03:03]
the city conduct some measures
[2:03:04]
to reduce the risk of a dam
[2:03:04]
failure and those measures are
[2:03:08]
not going to be cheap.
[2:03:09]
So I want to ask for the record
[2:03:13]
given the questions about Lake
[2:03:14]
Hodges Dam, does the city have
[2:03:15]
a choice about whether or not
[2:03:18]
to perform the state mandated
[2:03:23]
risk reduction measures at Lake
[2:03:23]
Hodges Dam?
[2:03:24]
No, we're required to do those
[2:03:25]
risk reduction measures and
[2:03:28]
that is what these dam services
[2:03:29]
contracts will help us design
[2:03:32]
for it.
[2:03:33]
If we don't, what's
[2:03:37]
the consequence of of saying
[2:03:38]
that No, we're not going to do
[2:03:38]
that later has different
[2:03:39]
options at their play.
[2:03:42]
>> I mean you can they've been
[2:03:43]
wanting this This is the only
[2:03:43]
unsatisfactory dam in their
[2:03:47]
entire portfolio They can go
[2:03:48]
all the way up to and including
[2:03:51]
telling us to empty the entire
[2:03:52]
reservoir and emptying
[2:03:56]
the entire reservoir could
[2:03:57]
result in some of the very fire
[2:03:57]
risks that we're hearing nearby
[2:03:59]
residents express concerns
[2:04:04]
about fire risk.
[2:04:09]
So it has so I think we want to
[2:04:09]
separate the entire issue in
[2:04:10]
regards to fire risk in regards
[2:04:14]
to the level of the reservoir
[2:04:15]
as it is right now we have
[2:04:19]
the capability to pull from
[2:04:19]
the reservoirs and I'm going to
[2:04:20]
have Chief Deputy Chief
[2:04:20]
Brainard.
[2:04:24]
He is here from the Fire Safety
[2:04:24]
Fire Department and he can help
[2:04:28]
add any information on to that.
[2:04:29]
I do not believe that anything
[2:04:30]
about the level of the dam
[2:04:34]
impacts or increases that fire
[2:04:38]
risk but we can ask that
[2:04:39]
question to you Would you like
[2:04:39]
me to have them come up?
[2:04:40]
>> Well yes, I think that's
[2:04:42]
relevant If if a consequence of
[2:04:43]
not performing the state
[2:04:47]
mandated actions were to be
[2:04:52]
that the city had to empty Lake
[2:04:53]
Hodges, would that create an
[2:05:00]
additional fire risk?
[2:05:07]
But good afternoon Brant
[2:05:07]
Brenner I'm here for Assistant
[2:05:11]
Chief Eddy That's a fire
[2:05:12]
rescue.
[2:05:12]
We take all matters of fire
[2:05:15]
safety seriously and we from
[2:05:16]
all the way from the border all
[2:05:16]
the way up to Lake Hodges
[2:05:18]
anywhere where there's any type
[2:05:19]
of wildfire risk we take very
[2:05:24]
seriously.
[2:05:25]
>> So I guess the question is
[2:05:28]
in regards to specifically if
[2:05:29]
the dam was eliminated, that
[2:05:34]
removes one source of water in
[2:05:35]
regards to pulling from is that
[2:05:35]
correct?
[2:05:39]
Our helicopters as far as so
[2:05:40]
any of the dams or anything we
[2:05:42]
pull out we could pull from up
[2:05:42]
to two feet of water.
[2:05:43]
I just confirmed with my
[2:05:47]
helicopter crew chief that on
[2:05:47]
duty today our crews can pull
[2:05:48]
from everything from ponds to
[2:05:52]
anything and they near as
[2:05:53]
little as two feet of water.
[2:05:53]
Okay.
[2:05:56]
So that's I understand how
[2:05:57]
you're hearing the question but
[2:06:01]
let me restate the question and
[2:06:02]
in a different way We're
[2:06:03]
talking about approving these
[2:06:06]
contracts and I'm asking about
[2:06:07]
the consequence of not
[2:06:11]
approving them.
[2:06:12]
And you're saying that what are
[2:06:12]
the consequences of not
[2:06:16]
approving the contracts Could
[2:06:21]
be that and not conducting
[2:06:21]
these state mandated actions on
[2:06:26]
Lake Hodges Dam could be that
[2:06:26]
the state could order Lake
[2:06:30]
Hodges to be drained.
[2:06:31]
And my question is if we were
[2:06:36]
to drain Lake Hodges and leave
[2:06:40]
that landscape, is that not
[2:06:41]
fire fuel that would be
[2:06:41]
dangerous.
[2:06:42]
>> Maybe it's not.
[2:06:45]
But that's my question If
[2:06:46]
anywhere where there's a know
[2:06:47]
urban interface or any type of
[2:06:51]
wildfire brush or anything like
[2:06:52]
that, we will we're going to
[2:06:52]
treat exactly the same and
[2:06:54]
we'll aggressively attack with
[2:06:55]
all of our partner agencies
[2:06:56]
throughout San Diego County.
[2:06:57]
We'll have a joint unified
[2:06:59]
response.
[2:07:00]
But I think in regards to your
[2:07:01]
comment in regards to if we're
[2:07:05]
trying to address as it relates
[2:07:05]
to fire safety obviously also
[2:07:09]
dams are also used as
[2:07:10]
firebreaks too.
[2:07:11]
And so if there's no water in
[2:07:14]
there that is going to have a
[2:07:15]
problem in regards to fire as
[2:07:19]
it is right now whether or not
[2:07:19]
it's to 80 versus 295, those
[2:07:23]
are different conversations.
[2:07:24]
But if you have nothing there,
[2:07:24]
there's no dead pull.
[2:07:25]
There's nothing there that's
[2:07:28]
going to have impacts in
[2:07:29]
regards to fire safety.
[2:07:33]
Yes, it is.
[2:07:34]
But that is why these dam
[2:07:34]
services contracts are so
[2:07:35]
important because if we're
[2:07:37]
trying to at least maintain
[2:07:38]
what we have right now, then we
[2:07:42]
want to do these contracts.
[2:07:42]
Okay.
[2:07:42]
Thank you.
[2:07:47]
That concludes my questions.
[2:07:47]
All right.
[2:07:48]
Thank you.
[2:07:48]
Council member Whitburn.
[2:07:52]
We'll go next to Council member
[2:07:57]
Campbell My gosh, I didn't I, I
[2:07:57]
thank you very much for
[2:08:02]
the presentation.
[2:08:02]
I think it's very important
[2:08:03]
that we approve this especially
[2:08:06]
as is mandated by the state.
[2:08:07]
I wish that the state would pay
[2:08:08]
for whatever it mandates but it
[2:08:12]
doesn't And so I will move
[2:08:17]
the staff's recommendation.
[2:08:17]
Okay.
[2:08:17]
Thank you.
[2:08:18]
All right.
[2:08:18]
Thank you, Council member
[2:08:19]
Campbell.
[2:08:21]
So we do have a motion to move
[2:08:22]
the staff recommendation.
[2:08:23]
>> We'll go next to council
[2:08:26]
member Von Wolpert.
[2:08:26]
Thank you.
[2:08:27]
Thank you for the presentation
[2:08:31]
today on our dams program and
[2:08:32]
thank you for answering all
[2:08:33]
the questions.
[2:08:36]
I also want to thank Rhonda and
[2:08:37]
friend Hodges and everybody for
[2:08:37]
being here.
[2:08:38]
Thank you for coming down today
[2:08:39]
and for being engaged with
[2:08:41]
the whole process.
[2:08:42]
My incredible policy advisor aj
[2:08:46]
Baker has been wonderful in
[2:08:47]
making sure that the community
[2:08:48]
is involved in this discussion
[2:08:50]
because as you said when
[2:08:51]
the lake water diminishes that
[2:08:55]
leads to an explosion in an
[2:08:56]
growth of brush.
[2:08:57]
You know when I was a kid and
[2:08:59]
you drove in the 15 freeway up
[2:09:00]
to the North County fair that's
[2:09:01]
what I still call it.
[2:09:01]
You can see water on both sides
[2:09:04]
of the 15 freeway and that's
[2:09:05]
what we grew up with And we
[2:09:08]
were used to with Lake Hodges.
[2:09:09]
I understand this dam was built
[2:09:10]
before women had the right to
[2:09:10]
vote in this country.
[2:09:13]
I do understand how old this
[2:09:14]
dam is.
[2:09:15]
At the same time we are now
[2:09:18]
aware that this is the most
[2:09:19]
failing dam in the state of
[2:09:23]
California and so we have to do
[2:09:24]
something about this.
[2:09:27]
My first question is where is
[2:09:28]
the county water authority?
[2:09:35]
Are they paying for any of this
[2:09:36]
75 million over ten years Are
[2:09:37]
they going to be contributing
[2:09:40]
to the repair of Lake Hodges
[2:09:41]
because this is half their
[2:09:41]
asset.
[2:09:42]
So two different things.
[2:09:46]
So if we're looking at any
[2:09:50]
project that is for maintenance
[2:09:51]
activity is it is our belief at
[2:09:52]
Lake Hodges.
[2:09:54]
So remember the 75 million for
[2:09:55]
each of these contracts is for
[2:09:56]
all of our entire dam portfolio
[2:09:59]
If it is associated with Hodges
[2:10:00]
they do have a cost share
[2:10:00]
measure.
[2:10:04]
They are responsible for 50% of
[2:10:05]
the cost they have.
[2:10:08]
As a reminder though they have
[2:10:09]
told us if it's the full
[2:10:10]
replacement they do not believe
[2:10:14]
that they have are required to
[2:10:14]
pay for that And that is
[2:10:15]
different than our
[2:10:20]
understanding.
[2:10:20]
Okay.
[2:10:21]
Interim we'll get to
[2:10:21]
the replacement in a second.
[2:10:24]
But in terms of this item today
[2:10:25]
to approve you know our rate
[2:10:25]
payers will be paying for this
[2:10:29]
our rate payers plus So in this
[2:10:30]
specifically for this 75
[2:10:30]
million for these two contracts
[2:10:34]
if the work is for Lake Hodges
[2:10:34]
like we're talking about
[2:10:35]
the risk reduction risk
[2:10:38]
reduction reduction measures
[2:10:39]
they would be paying their 50%
[2:10:40]
of that.
[2:10:40]
Yes.
[2:10:40]
Okay.
[2:10:43]
And the county water authority
[2:10:44]
has agreed to do this.
[2:10:44]
Are they protesting this or it
[2:10:45]
is not understanding that they
[2:10:48]
would be protesting that they
[2:10:49]
would only be protesting
[2:10:49]
the full replacement is our
[2:10:53]
understanding.
[2:10:53]
Okay.
[2:10:57]
I'll get to the full replace in
[2:10:57]
a second.
[2:10:58]
But in terms of the current
[2:11:01]
state of the dam right now
[2:11:02]
the city has been doing repairs
[2:11:02]
on Lake Hodges because we've
[2:11:06]
been ordered to so has
[2:11:07]
the County Water Authority paid
[2:11:08]
their fair share of those
[2:11:08]
repairs?
[2:11:10]
Yes.
[2:11:15]
And how much have they paid?
[2:11:16]
I would have to get back to you
[2:11:19]
in regards to that one.
[2:11:20]
I'd have to get back to you.
[2:11:23]
But they have been paying their
[2:11:23]
50% of all of ours.
[2:11:24]
>> Okay.
[2:11:27]
I would love to know how much
[2:11:28]
they have it contributing going
[2:11:28]
forward.
[2:11:32]
So if they're paying half of
[2:11:33]
the bill and we are currently
[2:11:37]
being ordered to do mandated
[2:11:38]
repairs by the State Department
[2:11:38]
of dam safety, why is it taking
[2:11:39]
so long?
[2:11:42]
We were supposed to get back
[2:11:43]
the options from
[2:11:44]
the geotechnical scientists
[2:11:47]
this summer and now it's pushed
[2:11:48]
back to DECEMBER of 2026, is
[2:11:51]
that correct?
[2:11:52]
Yes, we are expecting it by
[2:11:53]
DECEMBER of 2026.
[2:11:53]
Yes.
[2:11:54]
But we were expecting it this
[2:11:57]
summer.
[2:11:57]
Yeah.
[2:11:58]
Kelly, if you want to add
[2:11:59]
anything in regards to Kelly or
[2:11:59]
Tiffany, if you want to add
[2:12:02]
anything in regards to
[2:12:02]
the timeline.
[2:12:02]
Yeah.
[2:12:06]
Thank you.
[2:12:07]
So there's a number of
[2:12:07]
technical analyzes that we must
[2:12:11]
complete to come to a
[2:12:11]
recommendation for an
[2:12:12]
alternative to full dam
[2:12:16]
replacement for Hodges And
[2:12:16]
those technical analyzes take
[2:12:17]
some time.
[2:12:21]
So we do expect that we're
[2:12:21]
going to need more time.
[2:12:22]
So the end of the year is when
[2:12:26]
we expect to have a
[2:12:27]
recommendation on what we're
[2:12:28]
doing with Hodges in the long
[2:12:28]
term.
[2:12:28]
Okay.
[2:12:31]
Here we hired an outside
[2:12:32]
contractor to do this
[2:12:33]
recommendation for us.
[2:12:33]
Yes, We currently have gbi
[2:12:36]
doing the alternatives analysis
[2:12:37]
for us.
[2:12:37]
Okay.
[2:12:41]
So then I'd like an explanation
[2:12:42]
from them also why this is
[2:12:43]
taking so long.
[2:12:46]
Are they not working on it?
[2:12:47]
Do they have other projects?
[2:12:47]
I mean this is the highest
[2:12:51]
rated failure safety dam in
[2:12:51]
the state of California and
[2:12:52]
they have been working on it in
[2:12:56]
regards to some of the issues
[2:12:57]
Is that so every time that we
[2:13:01]
have to do anything in regards
[2:13:02]
to Hodges we want to make sure
[2:13:07]
we're doing our entirely due
[2:13:07]
diligence.
[2:13:08]
The state is one of
[2:13:08]
the assessments that do is on
[2:13:12]
the concrete itself cannot
[2:13:12]
withstand whatever
[2:13:13]
recommendations that we're
[2:13:13]
doing.
[2:13:14]
So then there's different
[2:13:18]
modeling on that.
[2:13:19]
I think the expectation was is
[2:13:19]
that we went with a shorter
[2:13:20]
timeline because we're trying
[2:13:22]
to push through and then each
[2:13:23]
thing we're trying to identify
[2:13:24]
does take us a little bit
[2:13:26]
longer and we want to make sure
[2:13:27]
we've done all of our due
[2:13:28]
diligence so that way when we
[2:13:28]
get into design and
[2:13:32]
construction we don't identify
[2:13:33]
things that pushed that
[2:13:33]
timeline around.
[2:13:38]
>> Okay, got it.
[2:13:39]
I have a request for next time
[2:13:40]
we hear a dam's updated api or
[2:13:40]
they can be bringing an
[2:13:42]
engineer as well.
[2:13:43]
We're paying them.
[2:13:43]
They should be here answering
[2:13:46]
our questions about what's
[2:13:51]
going on with the dam.
[2:13:52]
I was also asking a lot of
[2:13:53]
questions about how we're
[2:13:56]
communicating with our
[2:13:56]
residents at the committee
[2:13:57]
because the fire increased fire
[2:14:01]
risk is real.
[2:14:02]
Chief Eddy who I know can't be
[2:14:03]
here today actually lived in
[2:14:07]
the community and we received
[2:14:07]
over $1 million grant from
[2:14:08]
the state of California from
[2:14:09]
Assemblymember Joshua Patel's
[2:14:12]
office because the increased
[2:14:13]
fire threat because of
[2:14:13]
the brush growth when the water
[2:14:17]
went down has exponentially
[2:14:18]
increased fire concern in a
[2:14:19]
community that already lost
[2:14:23]
their homes and this is not a
[2:14:23]
theoretical concern.
[2:14:24]
This was where the Bridge Creek
[2:14:25]
fire went through And so you're
[2:14:27]
hearing from people who've
[2:14:28]
watched their homes burn
[2:14:28]
before.
[2:14:33]
And so my question is if
[2:14:34]
the Department of Dam Safety is
[2:14:34]
not going to allow us to raise
[2:14:35]
the water level which would
[2:14:38]
then flood some of the brush,
[2:14:39]
what is our plan going to be
[2:14:39]
going forward?
[2:14:40]
I know we have the million
[2:14:43]
dollar grant this year to do
[2:14:44]
extensive brush management and
[2:14:45]
get some of the native plants
[2:14:45]
out of the area.
[2:14:48]
But what about next year or
[2:14:49]
the year after?
[2:14:50]
And so you know Deputy Chief, I
[2:14:54]
know that you just had to fill
[2:14:54]
in today since he's not
[2:14:55]
available.
[2:14:55]
But my question for the fire
[2:14:58]
department is going forward,
[2:14:59]
can we have more involved
[2:14:59]
conversations with
[2:15:02]
the community about what to do
[2:15:03]
about this increased brush
[2:15:08]
management issues?
[2:15:09]
Yes, we can do that.
[2:15:13]
I can get in touch with Chief
[2:15:14]
Tasker to talk about the brush
[2:15:14]
management area and we can get
[2:15:15]
back to you.
[2:15:15]
>> Okay.
[2:15:15]
Thank you.
[2:15:18]
And I know that you know we're
[2:15:18]
currently waiting on our second
[2:15:19]
wildfire helicopter to get a
[2:15:24]
new part in which takes an
[2:15:24]
abnormally long amount of time.
[2:15:30]
But are we able to get a rock
[2:15:31]
up there?
[2:15:31]
Copter three if we need to
[2:15:32]
delay charges at this point?
[2:15:32]
Oh, yes.
[2:15:35]
Okay.
[2:15:36]
>> Three is in service.
[2:15:37]
Couple three is in service
[2:15:37]
today.
[2:15:37]
Okay.
[2:15:38]
Got it.
[2:15:38]
And then Cal Fire is able to
[2:15:41]
bring in on a more regular
[2:15:41]
basis when we are much more
[2:15:42]
prepared than we were in 2007,
[2:15:42]
correct?
[2:15:46]
Absolutely Are interagency
[2:15:46]
think they obviously are
[2:15:50]
coordination between Cal fire
[2:15:51]
all of our partners between us
[2:15:52]
can do to register fire and all
[2:15:55]
the surrounding jurisdictions
[2:15:56]
it has never been better right
[2:15:57]
now our Cal fire if I were to
[2:16:01]
as the commander recall for
[2:16:02]
fixing their package we could
[2:16:03]
bring it in.
[2:16:03]
I can keep bringing in as many
[2:16:07]
resources as necessary to
[2:16:08]
mitigate any incident as
[2:16:08]
possible.
[2:16:09]
This okay And cal fire of their
[2:16:13]
planes can dip in Lake Hodges
[2:16:14]
to correct I'm not I don't have
[2:16:14]
it that I'm not aware of their
[2:16:18]
capabilities with that correct
[2:16:19]
I could find out for you We can
[2:16:19]
get back to you.
[2:16:20]
Okay.
[2:16:20]
Thank you.
[2:16:21]
I think we just we need to have
[2:16:24]
a better conversation with
[2:16:24]
the committee members about
[2:16:25]
this because it is alarming to
[2:16:26]
see the exponential growth in
[2:16:29]
brush which is a result of
[2:16:29]
the lake lowering.
[2:16:34]
So thank you and thank you for
[2:16:35]
filling in for Chief Eddie.
[2:16:35]
I appreciate you being here
[2:16:36]
today.
[2:16:39]
I have one more question about
[2:16:40]
communication with our office
[2:16:40]
and our residents.
[2:16:44]
I have been asking for the city
[2:16:45]
in the Department of Dam Safety
[2:16:46]
to have a meaningful
[2:16:49]
conversation about whether we
[2:16:50]
can raise the water level
[2:16:51]
because we now know that we're
[2:16:55]
not going to be able to replace
[2:16:55]
this dam as quickly as we
[2:16:56]
wanted to because the County
[2:16:57]
Water Authority has
[2:17:00]
unilaterally decided they do
[2:17:01]
not have to share the cost
[2:17:01]
anymore.
[2:17:02]
>> One I hope we're getting a
[2:17:06]
legal opinion on that.
[2:17:06]
Okay.
[2:17:06]
All right.
[2:17:07]
Thank you.
[2:17:08]
We should be getting legal but
[2:17:11]
now that second, our
[2:17:11]
constituents have been rightly
[2:17:16]
asking what we're going to do
[2:17:17]
about this in the meantime.
[2:17:17]
So I wrote a letter last JULY
[2:17:18]
to the secretary of
[2:17:22]
the California Natural
[2:17:23]
Resources Agency, Secretary
[2:17:24]
Crawford asking for this ody to
[2:17:28]
work with Cal Fire to determine
[2:17:28]
if the risk of the dam breaking
[2:17:29]
is greater at this point or her
[2:17:34]
life and safety of the risk of
[2:17:35]
a wildfire resulting because of
[2:17:35]
the lower water levels.
[2:17:36]
And nobody has answered my
[2:17:37]
question I've asked our state
[2:17:38]
assembly members, our state
[2:17:44]
senators and then this morning
[2:17:44]
we received an email that my
[2:17:45]
office is not included on
[2:17:48]
the from a gentleman who is
[2:17:49]
the public affairs California
[2:17:55]
Department of Water Resources
[2:17:56]
Public Affairs office situation
[2:17:56]
in the in which he has been
[2:17:57]
explaining to constituents that
[2:18:00]
this dam is so dangerous that
[2:18:01]
not only are we required to
[2:18:07]
lower the water level at
[2:18:07]
because of a seismic event
[2:18:11]
because of an earthquake but in
[2:18:12]
2023 we discovered that a
[2:18:13]
concrete deterioration has
[2:18:13]
progressed to such a state.
[2:18:17]
The Department of Dam Safety
[2:18:18]
has determined the dam to be an
[2:18:19]
unacceptable condition that
[2:18:19]
could lead to failure under
[2:18:20]
normal or static conditions
[2:18:24]
meaning right now the dam could
[2:18:25]
fail and Council Working
[2:18:26]
Appeals Office insisted on this
[2:18:28]
email that my office was not
[2:18:29]
And so I'm just asking I have
[2:18:30]
been begging this department to
[2:18:36]
give communication to me and my
[2:18:36]
residents who come all the way
[2:18:37]
down here and why can I not
[2:18:40]
technically be sitting on an
[2:18:41]
email?
[2:18:47]
I just we're very frustrated.
[2:18:47]
Whangarei Public Utilities
[2:18:48]
Director Council member Yvonne
[2:18:49]
Walker I just want to apologize
[2:18:53]
to you for not including you on
[2:18:54]
those conversations earlier.
[2:18:55]
It was a request from d seven
[2:18:55]
and we're being responsive in
[2:18:58]
meeting with that constituent
[2:18:59]
and they followed up a few
[2:18:59]
times and then dwp got back to
[2:19:00]
them about two weeks ago and we
[2:19:04]
just got that to you today.
[2:19:04]
So I think it's a helpful
[2:19:05]
reminder that if there are
[2:19:08]
inquiries that come from other
[2:19:09]
council districts that we
[2:19:10]
include the council district
[2:19:10]
where concern is located in
[2:19:15]
this case Hodges will make sure
[2:19:16]
to keep you updated on any
[2:19:17]
communications related orders
[2:19:19]
to report politics.
[2:19:25]
>> Thank you.
[2:19:26]
I appreciate that commitment.
[2:19:27]
I also wondering when we're
[2:19:28]
going to have a newly updated
[2:19:32]
how to determine first of all
[2:19:33]
dam really quickly ask
[2:19:33]
questions Given this new
[2:19:34]
information the Department of
[2:19:37]
Dam Safety thinks this dam is
[2:19:38]
so unsafe that any moment it
[2:19:43]
could experience a structural
[2:19:44]
collapse that we can't raise
[2:19:45]
the water level if that is
[2:19:45]
the case and he put it in
[2:19:49]
writing here what are we going
[2:19:50]
to do on our own website What
[2:19:51]
Ali Bridger, deputy director of
[2:19:55]
External Affairs answer that.
[2:19:56]
Yeah Thank you Council members
[2:19:57]
I think he was in the process
[2:19:58]
of being completely updated and
[2:20:01]
will ensure that update is
[2:20:02]
finalized with the city's
[2:20:03]
perspective as well and it
[2:20:03]
should be uploaded to our
[2:20:06]
website within the near future
[2:20:07]
Will you let us know when
[2:20:07]
that's done please?
[2:20:12]
Okay.
[2:20:13]
And I want to thank
[2:20:14]
the residents who have been
[2:20:14]
consistently arguing this point
[2:20:18]
and particularly this morning
[2:20:18]
because you were able to get
[2:20:19]
answers quicker than sometimes
[2:20:21]
we get to you unfortunately
[2:20:28]
here in the city So okay.
[2:20:28]
Well I appreciate
[2:20:29]
the commitment to getting more
[2:20:34]
better communication with our
[2:20:34]
office.
[2:20:35]
My last question is I agree
[2:20:36]
with Rhonda's recommendation
[2:20:41]
that this is the worst dam in
[2:20:41]
the whole state of California.
[2:20:42]
>> Why are we not putting all
[2:20:47]
the pressure on this dam if
[2:20:48]
we're going to prove this $150
[2:20:49]
million for all we have in San
[2:20:53]
Diego because I just need
[2:20:54]
the most attention so why can't
[2:20:54]
we focus on this one first?
[2:20:58]
So I'll go back in regards to
[2:20:59]
that the most important thing
[2:20:59]
is making sure because we've
[2:21:00]
lost 50% of the person who's
[2:21:04]
going to fund it we got
[2:21:05]
estimates We were originally
[2:21:06]
looking at $275 million to
[2:21:10]
replace this dam.
[2:21:15]
The estimates now are between
[2:21:15]
500 and $700 million and that
[2:21:16]
would mean the city would be
[2:21:16]
responsible.
[2:21:19]
We've lost 50% of our funding
[2:21:20]
for that.
[2:21:20]
So that increases the liability
[2:21:25]
in the cost to actually do
[2:21:26]
the work on the city of San
[2:21:26]
Diego residents.
[2:21:27]
And so we are trying to right
[2:21:30]
now identify all options
[2:21:31]
available to us in regards to
[2:21:37]
what is the best use of all
[2:21:37]
ratepayer funds because we do
[2:21:38]
not have unlimited funds.
[2:21:42]
Our existing rate right now we
[2:21:43]
don't even have the rates to do
[2:21:44]
that replacement right now.
[2:21:48]
So that would also require
[2:21:49]
future increased rates And so
[2:21:50]
we want to make sure and come
[2:21:54]
back and make sure we've
[2:21:55]
identified that option that
[2:21:56]
gives us addresses the concerns
[2:21:56]
in regards to the safety of
[2:22:00]
that dam but also looks at
[2:22:01]
the affordability that we're
[2:22:02]
looking at and that's why we
[2:22:06]
chose to do that risk
[2:22:07]
alternative analysis and coming
[2:22:08]
back with also interim risk
[2:22:12]
reduction measures which I
[2:22:13]
appreciate My question I guess
[2:22:19]
still is are we going to direct
[2:22:26]
most of these resources
[2:22:26]
immediately to Lake Hodges?
[2:22:26]
Hodges is the number one
[2:22:27]
priority.
[2:22:27]
Yes.
[2:22:27]
Okay.
[2:22:27]
All right.
[2:22:27]
Thank you.
[2:22:27]
Well, thank you for answering
[2:22:27]
the questions.
[2:22:30]
Thank you for the commitment to
[2:22:31]
communicate better with us
[2:22:31]
going forward.
[2:22:32]
You know, we work with our city
[2:22:32]
partners.
[2:22:37]
That's how we got $2 million
[2:22:38]
with assembly Ever tell is
[2:22:38]
because when it does come to us
[2:22:39]
we can ask But if we don't get
[2:22:41]
that information I can't act on
[2:22:42]
it.
[2:22:42]
So given the commitment that
[2:22:43]
you will work with our
[2:22:48]
communities better and get us
[2:22:48]
more answers and we'll be
[2:22:49]
focusing the efforts
[2:22:50]
immediately on Lake Hodges if
[2:22:54]
we proved it today I will prove
[2:22:55]
the vote to approve the item
[2:22:55]
but we will continue to follow
[2:23:01]
up to make sure that these
[2:23:01]
commitments are actually
[2:23:02]
followed through.
[2:23:02]
The community can feel safer
[2:23:03]
and we can be more aware of
[2:23:07]
going to be with this very
[2:23:08]
precious resource that we will
[2:23:08]
count on for a long time.
[2:23:09]
So thank you very much.
[2:23:12]
I think COUNCILMAN I think you
[2:23:13]
said you would vote to approve
[2:23:13]
it.
[2:23:14]
You didn't actually sign it
[2:23:17]
though So we get to you.
[2:23:17]
Okay.
[2:23:18]
I'll jump in there And second
[2:23:18]
before I go to Councilmember
[2:23:23]
Foster offer a few thoughts
[2:23:23]
because I want to clarify some
[2:23:24]
of the things that we've been
[2:23:25]
talking about.
[2:23:28]
One, thank you for coming down
[2:23:29]
and taking the time to testify
[2:23:34]
there isn't anything more scary
[2:23:34]
than the possibility of changes
[2:23:40]
that could potentially threaten
[2:23:40]
our homes.
[2:23:41]
You know I I'm old enough to
[2:23:46]
remember when living next to
[2:23:47]
open space and Wildlands
[2:23:51]
actually was an asset given as
[2:23:51]
many people describe
[2:23:52]
the changes in our environment
[2:23:53]
and the risk of wildfire has
[2:23:57]
certainly turned people's
[2:23:58]
attention in a different
[2:23:58]
direction.
[2:24:02]
My district District one used
[2:24:03]
to enjoy the quality of life by
[2:24:09]
being separated by major pieces
[2:24:09]
of open space.
[2:24:10]
And what do they face today?
[2:24:15]
Difficulty getting insurance
[2:24:15]
The state introducing zone zero
[2:24:16]
which is going to require
[2:24:20]
everybody sense almost
[2:24:21]
everybody in the city to
[2:24:22]
actually clear everything
[2:24:22]
within five feet.
[2:24:26]
Circumstances have different
[2:24:27]
change and sadly it takes
[2:24:27]
dramatic incidents to actually
[2:24:32]
force us to change.
[2:24:33]
And I do want to emphasize
[2:24:33]
the world changed with
[2:24:38]
the arrival down and change
[2:24:39]
the vision of them safety and
[2:24:40]
how they looked at things for
[2:24:45]
better or for worse.
[2:24:46]
So I appreciate the pivot as
[2:24:51]
councilmember from over it in
[2:24:52]
the public mentioned I am a
[2:24:53]
civil engineer so I paid a
[2:24:53]
little bit extra attention and
[2:24:56]
I want to remind that we did do
[2:24:57]
upwards $10 million worth of
[2:24:57]
repairs at Lake Hodges.
[2:25:01]
Pretty extraordinary innovative
[2:25:02]
approaches to try to stabilize
[2:25:02]
the dam.
[2:25:08]
And I can remember we actually
[2:25:08]
began a pace to actually start
[2:25:13]
thinking about a new dam There
[2:25:14]
I don't know how far we got but
[2:25:19]
we certainly got slammed when
[2:25:20]
the County Water Authority said
[2:25:20]
Yeah, we don't care about
[2:25:21]
the hydroelectric capacity
[2:25:21]
there.
[2:25:25]
We don't care about the water
[2:25:26]
storage there.
[2:25:27]
We're not interested in being
[2:25:31]
your 50% partner And that
[2:25:31]
changed the landscape.
[2:25:32]
I want to reemphasize
[2:25:36]
the question I think
[2:25:36]
councilmember bubble raised but
[2:25:37]
there's nothing in the action
[2:25:38]
today that actually precludes
[2:25:42]
what we might do with that,
[2:25:42]
correct?
[2:25:43]
Correct.
[2:25:43]
Okay.
[2:25:48]
So I wanted to make sure that
[2:25:49]
we weren't doing anything in
[2:25:49]
that regard And I also don't
[2:25:54]
want to forget about the larger
[2:25:54]
picture that we're talking
[2:25:55]
about that we first heard in
[2:25:56]
Environment Committee where
[2:25:59]
the city again given the 2021
[2:26:00]
action actually took a look at
[2:26:05]
the entirety of our system of
[2:26:06]
water storage which is our
[2:26:11]
water storage that doesn't
[2:26:11]
belong to the County water
[2:26:12]
Authority.
[2:26:13]
It's ours and it does typically
[2:26:18]
we talk about it as 10% of our
[2:26:18]
water supply, maybe even
[2:26:19]
the rainy month that actually
[2:26:23]
is upwards You said 30% and
[2:26:23]
more importantly the cost of
[2:26:29]
$400 an acre foot as opposed to
[2:26:29]
$2,600.
[2:26:30]
And anybody who thinks about
[2:26:31]
privatizing the most expensive
[2:26:34]
water in your county is a
[2:26:35]
private desalinization plant.
[2:26:36]
So I'm not interested in going
[2:26:40]
in that direction.
[2:26:41]
But everything that we need to
[2:26:42]
do to make sure that that local
[2:26:46]
water continues to function in
[2:26:47]
a very efficient manner and
[2:26:47]
keeps health keep the rates
[2:26:53]
down So I appreciate that even
[2:26:53]
though this is a ten year
[2:26:54]
contract that you're asking
[2:26:58]
that you will come back to us
[2:26:59]
yearly and let us know
[2:27:00]
the progress Clearly after Ojai
[2:27:05]
completes its assessment of
[2:27:05]
Lake Hodges and options coming
[2:27:06]
back to api or investment
[2:27:11]
committee whatever makes sense
[2:27:11]
best I do feel inclined because
[2:27:12]
I heard it more than once about
[2:27:17]
Choice Lake It's not part of
[2:27:17]
our water story.
[2:27:18]
It's not part of our system
[2:27:23]
There it is a dam all dams
[2:27:24]
always have that risk of
[2:27:24]
breaking.
[2:27:25]
How do we it's not PUDs I
[2:27:28]
assume it's Park and Rec.
[2:27:29]
Yes, that is correct.
[2:27:30]
But we are in coordination
[2:27:30]
because we do kind of have
[2:27:35]
the expertise in regards to
[2:27:35]
doing the condition
[2:27:35]
assessments.
[2:27:36]
We are coordinating with Park
[2:27:37]
and Rec to give them
[2:27:40]
the information It is a
[2:27:41]
satisfactory dam at this point
[2:27:42]
in time which is within days or
[2:27:42]
days That's their highest
[2:27:43]
rating.
[2:27:47]
So but we do have it identified
[2:27:48]
in preparing the information
[2:27:49]
that is needed so that being in
[2:27:52]
future actions can be done but
[2:27:53]
that would be at the expense of
[2:27:54]
from the general fund.
[2:27:54]
Okay.
[2:27:58]
I don't want to put any undue
[2:27:59]
pressure in front of our
[2:27:59]
colleagues but we do have ten
[2:28:00]
members of the County Water
[2:28:05]
Authority board of directors
[2:28:05]
there and I think it's a pretty
[2:28:06]
big enough to convince
[2:28:10]
the other directors to pony up
[2:28:11]
that kind of dollars where they
[2:28:11]
MAY not see the benefit to
[2:28:12]
the County Water Authority's
[2:28:17]
entire vision of an area of
[2:28:17]
responsibility.
[2:28:18]
So I don't really hold whole
[2:28:22]
much hope there no matter what
[2:28:23]
the city or town are able to do
[2:28:23]
at the board level going
[2:28:24]
forward.
[2:28:29]
But again, you know, I also
[2:28:29]
don't want to lose
[2:28:30]
the incredible pivot that
[2:28:34]
Peabody went through past five
[2:28:34]
years going forward And you
[2:28:40]
responded to when the division
[2:28:41]
of dam safety said new rules
[2:28:45]
are in place you jumped on
[2:28:46]
every requirement And then when
[2:28:46]
County Water Authority said
[2:28:47]
again slammed the door on us
[2:28:51]
you pivoted again.
[2:28:52]
And that's an extraordinary
[2:28:53]
amount of work of something
[2:28:53]
that is not part of our day to
[2:28:54]
day work.
[2:28:58]
So I very much appreciate it.
[2:28:59]
I appreciate MR. McFadden being
[2:28:59]
here and participating in this
[2:29:04]
as the chief of infrastructure
[2:29:04]
Services.
[2:29:05]
So with that I'll close my
[2:29:10]
comments and my colleagues have
[2:29:11]
some comments as well that I
[2:29:12]
will second the motion.
[2:29:12]
>> So we do have a motion by
[2:29:16]
council member Campbell and a
[2:29:17]
second by Council PRESIDENT
[2:29:17]
LaCava to second the motion on
[2:29:22]
the floor And with that will go
[2:29:22]
next to Council Member foster
[2:29:23]
Thank you Chair and thank you
[2:29:27]
for the presentation We did
[2:29:28]
hear this previously I did and
[2:29:33]
continue to have some concerns
[2:29:33]
but listening to
[2:29:34]
the conversation today we have
[2:29:40]
this action that's before us
[2:29:41]
today But you mentioned that
[2:29:41]
there's another contract that
[2:29:42]
we have Programatic contract
[2:29:42]
with.
[2:29:46]
We're doing analysis to look at
[2:29:47]
options and how we are going to
[2:29:52]
approach the very dam we are
[2:29:53]
discussing with that work that
[2:29:54]
is still outstanding and work
[2:29:57]
is being done.
[2:29:58]
Can you help me to understand
[2:29:59]
why we are taking this action
[2:30:03]
today?
[2:30:04]
Absolutely and it's a great
[2:30:05]
question in regard to that.
[2:30:09]
We do have regulatory deadlines
[2:30:10]
that we must address right now.
[2:30:11]
We cannot wait to have every
[2:30:15]
analysis that the team went
[2:30:16]
through to have that all done
[2:30:17]
before we move.
[2:30:22]
We have definitely some
[2:30:23]
priorities just like Hodges
[2:30:27]
Berry, Ty Murray Dam we have
[2:30:27]
other commitments and other
[2:30:28]
requirements that are due and
[2:30:32]
so we need to move forward in
[2:30:33]
having that design work and
[2:30:34]
keep maintaining that as we
[2:30:39]
continue in a parallel path on
[2:30:40]
the entire overall programatic
[2:30:40]
analysis And so do we not have
[2:30:41]
any do we not have another
[2:30:46]
contract or an existing
[2:30:46]
contracted to expire?
[2:30:47]
What is the how are we taking
[2:30:47]
care of these regulatory
[2:30:52]
requirements prior to this item
[2:30:53]
in regards to So a lot of them
[2:30:57]
did require some of them didn't
[2:30:58]
require design.
[2:30:59]
We're moving into more major
[2:30:59]
maintenance as it relates to
[2:31:04]
design that we will need design
[2:31:05]
expertise on this And so and
[2:31:06]
then I'll have Kelly out
[2:31:10]
anything else.
[2:31:11]
So we have contracts at
[2:31:11]
engineering a capital project
[2:31:12]
department.
[2:31:16]
So they issued three as needed
[2:31:17]
contracts to assist with
[2:31:17]
the near term repair projects
[2:31:21]
and do design those contracts
[2:31:22]
are nearing completion and
[2:31:23]
capacity so we no longer have
[2:31:23]
the ability to issue work for
[2:31:28]
new repair projects hence
[2:31:29]
the need for these.
[2:31:29]
And how much were those
[2:31:35]
contracts I we got the same
[2:31:36]
concept What's the capacity and
[2:31:36]
timeline on these?
[2:31:40]
Yeah so for each one it was a
[2:31:41]
five year duration they were as
[2:31:44]
needed and they were each
[2:31:45]
approximately 7 million so $21
[2:31:46]
million total for all the years
[2:31:46]
needed.
[2:31:47]
>> Okay.
[2:31:50]
And then with this with this
[2:31:56]
contract what is the maximum I
[2:31:57]
guess authority or capacity of
[2:32:01]
a task order?
[2:32:08]
The task orders are not limited
[2:32:08]
in dollar value.
[2:32:09]
I'm asking with the mayors what
[2:32:10]
is the mayoral authority for a
[2:32:13]
task order Based on my comments
[2:32:18]
at 80 I had concerns on one
[2:32:18]
commitments.
[2:32:18]
Right.
[2:32:19]
How are you going to break down
[2:32:20]
some contracts and things like
[2:32:20]
that?
[2:32:24]
If I remember the conversation
[2:32:24]
right there to be determined
[2:32:25]
later as we go through actual
[2:32:26]
task order process.
[2:32:30]
My question is what is
[2:32:30]
the mayor's authority?
[2:32:31]
I'm trying to understand what
[2:32:32]
we will see coming back and
[2:32:36]
what we will not within those
[2:32:36]
$75 million it is within
[2:32:41]
the mayor's authority up to $75
[2:32:42]
million within the term of
[2:32:47]
the contract.
[2:32:47]
But getting coming back we can
[2:32:48]
come back each year In regards
[2:32:53]
to our update.
[2:32:53]
Is that accurate?
[2:32:54]
I believe there's a limit on
[2:32:59]
each task order regarding City
[2:33:05]
Attorney's Council approval If
[2:33:06]
you Deputy City Attorney there
[2:33:11]
is no limit on tasks for as
[2:33:12]
needed consultant contracts
[2:33:12]
with you.
[2:33:16]
>> So essentially we're issuing
[2:33:16]
$75 million of capacity to
[2:33:17]
the mayor.
[2:33:21]
Not one item will come back to
[2:33:21]
us in the ten year process for
[2:33:26]
additional authority.
[2:33:27]
Is that what I'm understanding?
[2:33:32]
Why could you clarify if task
[2:33:32]
orders are capital funded if
[2:33:33]
that would trigger an
[2:33:38]
additional approval?
[2:33:39]
There is no cap on task for as
[2:33:44]
needed consultant contracts.
[2:33:45]
There's no limit within
[2:33:49]
the municipal code for this
[2:34:02]
type of this type of contract
[2:34:02]
And what they're talking about
[2:34:03]
this evening I'm going to add
[2:34:09]
something Councilmember I would
[2:34:10]
just offer that we couldn't
[2:34:10]
issue a task today to the total
[2:34:13]
to the tune of $75 million
[2:34:14]
because that is not what's
[2:34:15]
included in the rates that you
[2:34:15]
all approved this past fall.
[2:34:19]
That's also not included in our
[2:34:20]
five year work budget that
[2:34:21]
the full amount in year one.
[2:34:26]
So that's where we noted that
[2:34:27]
every opportunity that we will
[2:34:27]
be coming back for every annual
[2:34:28]
dam safety update with an
[2:34:32]
update on this program but also
[2:34:32]
in every five year outlook,
[2:34:33]
every budget and every rate
[2:34:37]
case we have moving forward
[2:34:38]
there will be additional
[2:34:38]
information on the planned
[2:34:39]
spend for these contracts
[2:34:43]
included within our dam safety
[2:34:48]
program line items is putting
[2:34:49]
and contracting on the call.
[2:34:50]
I just want to make sure I
[2:34:50]
understand this.
[2:34:55]
I didn't realize that consulted
[2:34:56]
contracts did not come within a
[2:34:56]
limit attached to the task
[2:35:01]
orders.
[2:35:02]
Yes it is online.
[2:35:02]
Yeah.
[2:35:03]
Good afternoon Councilmember
[2:35:07]
Foster.
[2:35:08]
That is correct.
[2:35:08]
Currently as we look at
[2:35:09]
municipal code there are no
[2:35:12]
limits for task orders Under as
[2:35:18]
many contracts.
[2:35:19]
Okay, so how much do we have
[2:35:20]
budgeted for this cycle?
[2:35:21]
What's the budget impact Or any
[2:35:25]
rate I'm assuming what we have
[2:35:26]
is included in the rates and
[2:35:26]
we're not going what I just
[2:35:27]
heard we're not going to go
[2:35:30]
over that Correct.
[2:35:30]
The amount is currently within
[2:35:36]
this fiscal year as identified
[2:35:37]
in a rate case and also with
[2:35:37]
our five year.
[2:35:38]
Okay.
[2:35:38]
All right.
[2:35:42]
I'm Thank you.
[2:35:42]
All right.
[2:35:43]
Thank you Councilmember Foster
[2:35:43]
for your questions.
[2:35:48]
We'll go next to council
[2:35:48]
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[2:35:49]
Thank you PRESIDENT.
[2:35:50]
We had a pretty extensive
[2:35:54]
discussion of listening to So i
[2:35:55]
think for me to summarize I'm
[2:35:55]
going to recapping it quickly
[2:35:56]
is perhaps helpful.
[2:35:59]
I think everyone in the room
[2:36:00]
understands the need for many
[2:36:01]
of our dams especially for Lake
[2:36:05]
Hodges.
[2:36:05]
We already as a council had
[2:36:06]
initiated funding for the study
[2:36:11]
of the conditions of the dams
[2:36:12]
And then the next step frankly
[2:36:12]
is to have this contract in
[2:36:17]
place to allow for funding to
[2:36:17]
ensure that design the design
[2:36:18]
phase for any future projects
[2:36:22]
can occur And I know this is
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under a ten year period I feel
[2:36:23]
comfortable with the budget
[2:36:27]
authority piece being where we
[2:36:28]
the council is going to have
[2:36:28]
some ability to annually in
[2:36:29]
terms of determining what's
[2:36:34]
actually implemented within
[2:36:34]
the budget.
[2:36:35]
We're authorized within
[2:36:36]
the budget for projects and so
[2:36:36]
that it's not all just going to
[2:36:39]
be spent But I presume that
[2:36:40]
without this we wouldn't be
[2:36:45]
able to address any of
[2:36:46]
the identified potential
[2:36:46]
repairs replacement water
[2:36:51]
levels as have been requested
[2:36:52]
by the Department of Safety of
[2:36:52]
Dams.
[2:36:53]
That is correct.
[2:36:54]
I mean we have already have
[2:36:58]
identified projects right now
[2:36:58]
at Lower Ojai, at Murray at
[2:36:59]
their at risk reduction
[2:37:03]
measures at Hodges.
[2:37:04]
All of those wouldn't be able
[2:37:04]
to be completed without these
[2:37:05]
contracts.
[2:37:10]
Thank you.
[2:37:11]
That concerns and I'm happy to
[2:37:11]
support that and look forward
[2:37:12]
to the work Continue.
[2:37:15]
All right.
[2:37:15]
Thank you.
[2:37:16]
Council PRESIDENT Personally I
[2:37:17]
don't see anyone else in
[2:37:17]
the lights.
[2:37:18]
Let me ask one last question.
[2:37:21]
This is just a sign.
[2:37:22]
So when you identify
[2:37:22]
construction contracts those
[2:37:23]
will come back because I
[2:37:27]
suspect they will be quite
[2:37:28]
sizable.
[2:37:28]
Yes.
[2:37:28]
Okay.
[2:37:29]
Just one Want to double check
[2:37:29]
up on that.
[2:37:30]
Okay.
[2:37:34]
We have a motion by
[2:37:34]
Councilmember Campbell and
[2:37:35]
second by myself to move
[2:37:36]
the staff recommendation.
[2:37:37]
Clerk please call the roll.
[2:37:37]
I'm sorry The voting system.
[2:37:43]
Please cast your vote That
[2:37:50]
passes unanimously So sorry.
[2:37:51]
That is not that announcing
[2:37:52]
that passes 7 to 1 with
[2:37:56]
Councilmember Foster voting no
[2:37:56]
and Councilmember you absent.
[2:37:57]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[2:37:57]
All right.
[2:37:58]
Thank you to my council
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colleagues for all
[2:38:01]
the questions and comments.
[2:38:02]
Thank you to the good folks at
[2:38:07]
pd for putting this together
[2:38:07]
and answering all the questions
[2:38:08]
And of course, gentlemen from
[2:38:13]
Fire Rescue for showing up as
[2:38:13]
well.
[2:38:14]
>> So with that clerk please
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introduce item 203 Item 2 or 3
[2:38:19]
is the naming of an existing
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alley in the Cabrillo Heights
[2:38:21]
neighborhood within the Sara
[2:38:24]
mesa community Plan area it's
[2:38:28]
Highway Padre Dash 1130 27 six
[2:38:29]
If you'd like to speak to this
[2:38:30]
item please be sure to submit
[2:38:31]
your speaker slip to the front
[2:38:34]
of the room into the clear box
[2:38:35]
and if you are participating
[2:38:35]
remotely now's the time to
[2:38:40]
raise your hand by pressing
[2:38:40]
Star nine or the raise your
[2:38:41]
hand icon.
[2:38:42]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:38:42]
right Thank you.
[2:38:46]
I see staff filling in.
[2:38:47]
Please introduce yourselves for
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the record and let us know how
[2:38:48]
much time you need for your
[2:39:02]
presentation.
[2:39:02]
>> Good afternoon Council
[2:39:03]
PRESIDENT The following Council
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members My name is Daniel Neri
[2:39:08]
,Development Project Manager
[2:39:09]
with Development Services and
[2:39:09]
joining me today is senior land
[2:39:14]
Surveyor Greg Jeffries and land
[2:39:15]
Surveyor assistant Michael
[2:39:15]
Burkhardt.
[2:39:18]
I will need approximately three
[2:39:18]
minutes for today's
[2:39:18]
presentation.
[2:39:30]
All right, we're ready.
[2:39:30]
>> Okay.
[2:39:35]
Item number 203 on today's
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docket is project number pr
[2:39:36]
j11302764.
[2:39:41]
The naming of an existing alley
[2:39:42]
in the Cabrillo Heights
[2:39:42]
neighborhood within the seven
[2:39:43]
Mesa Community Plan area each
[2:39:49]
highway.
[2:39:50]
The item before you today
[2:39:51]
proposes the naming of an
[2:39:51]
existing unnamed public right
[2:39:56]
of way alley to each highway.
[2:39:57]
The street name change was
[2:40:02]
brought forth by a petition
[2:40:02]
from all affected property
[2:40:03]
owners and tenants fronting
[2:40:04]
the subject property in
[2:40:04]
accordance with San Diego
[2:40:09]
Municipal Code 1251120b
[2:40:09]
Although the municipal code
[2:40:15]
allows for a process one
[2:40:15]
decision for petitions
[2:40:16]
containing signatures
[2:40:19]
indicating 100% support.
[2:40:19]
The item before you requires a
[2:40:20]
process five Decision by City
[2:40:25]
Council Because the circulated
[2:40:26]
petition received less than
[2:40:26]
100% support a recommendation
[2:40:31]
from the Planning Commission is
[2:40:31]
not required for this action
[2:40:32]
for the San Diego Municipal
[2:40:37]
Code the naming was determined
[2:40:37]
to be categorically exempt from
[2:40:38]
the California Environmental
[2:40:39]
Quality Act pursuant to equal
[2:40:43]
sections 153a1 for existing
[2:40:44]
facilities and section 15311
[2:40:49]
for accessory structures.
[2:40:49]
The project is within the third
[2:40:53]
Mesa Community Plan area of
[2:40:53]
Council District seven and
[2:40:54]
the site lies between Parkdale
[2:40:57]
Avenue and McCullough Avenue
[2:40:58]
within the room one one and r's
[2:40:59]
one seven zones The Cabrillo
[2:41:03]
Heights neighborhood lies east
[2:41:07]
of Interstate 85 west of
[2:41:08]
Interstate 15 and approximately
[2:41:09]
2.6 miles south of Montgomery
[2:41:14]
Gibbs Airport, the existing 20
[2:41:15]
six foot wide and 0.4 mile long
[2:41:20]
alley was established for map
[2:41:21]
number 3003 of the Rancho
[2:41:24]
Cabrillo subdivision in 1960
[2:41:25]
Known today as the Cabrillo
[2:41:25]
Heights neighborhood, the Alley
[2:41:31]
serves as a divide between
[2:41:31]
the multiple dwelling unit
[2:41:32]
residential and one one zone to
[2:41:35]
the north shown here in total
[2:41:36]
and the single dwelling unit
[2:41:37]
r's one seven zone to the south
[2:41:41]
shown here in yellow.
[2:41:42]
The development pattern of
[2:41:43]
the Cabrillo Heights
[2:41:43]
neighborhood is characterized
[2:41:48]
by multifamily use military
[2:41:48]
housing to the north along
[2:41:49]
Parkdale Avenue and single
[2:41:54]
family residences to the south
[2:41:54]
along McCollough Avenue in
[2:41:55]
accordance with the street name
[2:41:59]
change regulations under this
[2:42:00]
end the San Diego Municipal
[2:42:04]
Code the applicant provided
[2:42:05]
identified 85 property owners
[2:42:05]
or tenants with either property
[2:42:10]
abutting the alley or property
[2:42:11]
within an address on
[2:42:11]
the affected segment of
[2:42:12]
the subject right of way That
[2:42:17]
petition was circulated via
[2:42:18]
door to door canvasing
[2:42:18]
resulting in 25 signatures in
[2:42:23]
favor which equates to 29% in
[2:42:24]
support and exceeded the 25%
[2:42:28]
minimum threshold required by
[2:42:29]
the code.
[2:42:29]
It's important to note here
[2:42:30]
that addresses without
[2:42:30]
signatures were not non
[2:42:34]
responsive and should today's
[2:42:35]
action be approved all fronting
[2:42:36]
properties will have the option
[2:42:41]
to submit an address change
[2:42:44]
request for information
[2:42:45]
Bulletin 185 In accordance with
[2:42:50]
San Diego Municipal Code
[2:42:50]
Section 1251120 See staff
[2:42:51]
determine that the project does
[2:42:52]
not adversely affect the multi
[2:42:55]
agency computer aided dispatch
[2:42:56]
service for police, fire and
[2:42:57]
paramedic vehicles or
[2:43:02]
the policies and procedures of
[2:43:03]
the United States Postal
[2:43:03]
Service as each highway is not
[2:43:04]
currently in assigned street
[2:43:09]
name in the city On MARCH 20th
[2:43:10]
2025 the third Mesa Community
[2:43:14]
Planning Group voted 601 in
[2:43:15]
support of a recommendation to
[2:43:15]
approve the naming of the alley
[2:43:20]
to each highway citing enhanced
[2:43:20]
safety navigation property
[2:43:25]
addressing and community
[2:43:26]
identity as a reason for their
[2:43:31]
support In consideration of
[2:43:32]
the staff report and some
[2:43:32]
supporting materials staff
[2:43:33]
recommends that City Council
[2:43:34]
adopt a resolution for
[2:43:38]
the secret exemption pursuant
[2:43:42]
to secret Section 15301 and
[2:43:43]
15311 Staff further recommends
[2:43:43]
that the Council adopt a
[2:43:44]
resolution approving street
[2:43:47]
name change pmt 3349350.
[2:43:47]
This concludes today's
[2:43:48]
presentation and staff and
[2:43:53]
the lead applicants are here to
[2:43:54]
answer any questions.
[2:43:54]
All right.
[2:43:55]
Thank you for the presentation
[2:43:55]
Clark Please proceed with
[2:43:59]
public comment.
[2:44:00]
We have we have a few speakers
[2:44:06]
here.
[2:44:06]
Glad a doctor if you can please
[2:44:07]
come up to the microphone and
[2:44:08]
if I can have the following
[2:44:11]
individuals please come up to
[2:44:12]
the other reserved seats at
[2:44:13]
the front.
[2:44:17]
In fact DR. Avila, Doctor and
[2:44:22]
room Room doctor You'll have
[2:44:22]
two minutes each.
[2:44:23]
Please proceed.
[2:44:23]
I would like to all speak
[2:44:25]
together.
[2:44:26]
The 20.
[2:44:33]
Would you like to speak
[2:44:34]
together as an organized
[2:44:34]
presentation?
[2:44:35]
All right.
[2:44:38]
We shall support We do live on
[2:44:39]
that alley.
[2:44:44]
The biggest issue right now is
[2:44:45]
both delivery emergency
[2:44:45]
services because it's such a
[2:44:51]
distinct situation.
[2:44:52]
The houses that are facing
[2:44:57]
alley very difficult to find So
[2:44:57]
we'll see Like those living
[2:45:03]
around I know from the table
[2:45:03]
that somebody called
[2:45:04]
the emergency ambulance and
[2:45:05]
they came to the house facing
[2:45:09]
the street and were unable to
[2:45:10]
find the house that they were
[2:45:14]
called to entirely.
[2:45:15]
So we are here to show support
[2:45:21]
and hope to get that open.
[2:45:21]
Thank you.
[2:45:27]
That concludes your comments.
[2:45:28]
Appreciate you being here.
[2:45:29]
We'll go to those participating
[2:45:30]
remotely starting the five
[2:45:30]
minute timer.
[2:45:36]
There's actually nobody nobody
[2:45:37]
in the virtual queue That
[2:45:38]
concludes public comment on
[2:45:38]
this item.
[2:45:39]
>> Okay thanks.
[2:45:43]
The city clerk You MAY begin.
[2:45:44]
Thank you for for taking
[2:45:45]
the time and sitting through
[2:45:49]
this afternoon's conversations
[2:45:50]
This is my district something
[2:45:51]
we wouldn't normally go to
[2:45:51]
The District seven Council
[2:45:52]
member for Guidance and
[2:45:56]
geographic courtesy He is not
[2:45:57]
here so we'll go first to
[2:46:02]
Councilmember Bunglers.
[2:46:02]
Thank you.
[2:46:02]
Yes.
[2:46:03]
Since council our campaign was
[2:46:04]
up on paternity leave with his
[2:46:04]
baby.
[2:46:07]
I'm happy to make the motion to
[2:46:08]
approve recommendation to
[2:46:08]
change the always name.
[2:46:09]
>> Okay, we have Councilmember
[2:46:09]
Bone.
[2:46:12]
What about moving
[2:46:13]
the recommendation And we go
[2:46:13]
next to council member
[2:46:14]
Campbell.
[2:46:19]
I'm happy to second the motion
[2:46:19]
All right.
[2:46:20]
We have a motion by
[2:46:21]
Councilmember Campbell
[2:46:21]
the second the motion to staff
[2:46:22]
recommendation on here.
[2:46:23]
I don't see anybody else in
[2:46:24]
the lights.
[2:46:25]
I've got a couple of questions.
[2:46:30]
This is a request by private
[2:46:31]
property owners or residents
[2:46:32]
Who's going to pay for the new
[2:46:36]
site?
[2:46:36]
Thank you.
[2:46:42]
This conversation was held with
[2:46:43]
the Transportation Department
[2:46:48]
and on AUGUST 7th of this past
[2:46:49]
year we received confirmation
[2:46:50]
from senior traffic engineer
[2:46:50]
Gary Pentz in
[2:46:51]
the Transportation Department
[2:46:54]
that once approved by council
[2:46:55]
this would become a named alley
[2:46:56]
like the rest of the city and
[2:46:56]
there is no charge for
[2:47:00]
the street sign installation to
[2:47:01]
the applicants that
[2:47:02]
transportation will issue work
[2:47:02]
orders to the streets divisions
[2:47:06]
for the signs and it will be
[2:47:07]
funded from the general fund.
[2:47:08]
Okay I have to admit I have a
[2:47:11]
little heartburn even though
[2:47:12]
it's like 3500 bucks going
[2:47:18]
forward given the very long
[2:47:18]
needs list that we have
[2:47:19]
the city to identify this as a
[2:47:23]
problem for something to be
[2:47:24]
solved.
[2:47:25]
And so I have a little bit of
[2:47:25]
heartburn about doing that
[2:47:29]
especially with the military
[2:47:30]
housing benefit from this.
[2:47:30]
Apparently the military didn't
[2:47:35]
offer to jump in on this
[2:47:36]
conversation.
[2:47:36]
I appreciate the comment about
[2:47:37]
the emergency response.
[2:47:42]
I don't want anybody to think
[2:47:43]
that any of you or house in
[2:47:44]
the back of a property that
[2:47:47]
fronts on the street and has an
[2:47:48]
alley behind it is dangerous.
[2:47:53]
I don't know why at 911 call
[2:47:54]
wouldn't be unified where
[2:47:55]
the problem was going forward
[2:47:55]
but I don't want anybody to
[2:47:59]
think that it's dangerous But I
[2:47:59]
do have these terrible,
[2:48:00]
terrible budget conversations
[2:48:04]
that we're having even $3,500.
[2:48:05]
That's kind of a big deal going
[2:48:06]
forward.
[2:48:11]
So I wish the 25 people or
[2:48:12]
the 25 people that did find out
[2:48:13]
would have been willing to pay
[2:48:16]
up for that sign to their
[2:48:17]
mutual benefit.
[2:48:17]
So but I just wanted to clear
[2:48:18]
that up and bring that to
[2:48:24]
everybody's attention so nobody
[2:48:24]
else on the lights.
[2:48:25]
We have a motion by
[2:48:26]
Councilmember Paul Wilbert and
[2:48:27]
a second by council member
[2:48:27]
Campbell to move the staff
[2:48:32]
recommendation As far as
[2:48:33]
the voting system, please cast
[2:48:44]
your vote That passes
[2:48:45]
unanimously 8 to 0 with Council
[2:48:46]
Member Campos And thank you
[2:48:50]
Council PRESIDENT.
[2:48:50]
All right.
[2:48:51]
Congratulations on getting this
[2:48:51]
action and look forward to a
[2:48:52]
meaningful change update To
[2:48:56]
clarify some of those
[2:48:56]
questions.
[2:48:57]
With that we will now take up
[2:48:57]
non agenda public comment.
[2:49:01]
The council members respect and
[2:49:02]
appreciate the public input and
[2:49:02]
are fully committed to
[2:49:03]
protecting every participant's
[2:49:08]
free speech right to counsel
[2:49:08]
and committee meetings.
[2:49:09]
Clerk Please proceed for public
[2:49:09]
comment.
[2:49:12]
Thank you for oral 2.7 on
[2:49:13]
the public comment is an
[2:49:13]
opportunity for members of
[2:49:14]
the public to comment items
[2:49:15]
that are not on the agenda but
[2:49:19]
within the subject matter
[2:49:19]
jurisdiction of the City
[2:49:19]
Council.
[2:49:20]
Each speaker will have two
[2:49:20]
minutes.
[2:49:21]
Please note if there are any
[2:49:26]
more speakers on a single topic
[2:49:26]
the maximum temperature will be
[2:49:27]
60 minutes.
[2:49:28]
If you're in chambers please
[2:49:28]
submit a speaker step to
[2:49:29]
the front of the room in
[2:49:30]
the clear box If you're
[2:49:31]
participating remotely now's
[2:49:32]
the time to raise your hand by
[2:49:32]
pressing Star nine or the raise
[2:49:36]
your hand icon If I can have
[2:49:37]
Christina everybody Taylor
[2:49:38]
please come to the front and
[2:49:42]
then Anthony Rose If you can
[2:49:43]
also come to the other reserved
[2:49:44]
seats you'll have two minutes.
[2:49:48]
Please proceed If you can just
[2:49:49]
back into that microphone that
[2:49:50]
is your timer will start when
[2:49:54]
you speak I Hello everybody.
[2:49:55]
My name is Christina Taylor and
[2:49:56]
I am here representing
[2:50:00]
residents from the thousand
[2:50:05]
block of Granger Street 9215 4
[2:50:06]
million Moreno is our district
[2:50:11]
rep or city council member am
[2:50:12]
Just to give you some brief
[2:50:15]
history in 2022 my husband was
[2:50:16]
in connection with MS. Moreno
[2:50:22]
to repair resurface the street
[2:50:23]
we live in the pci which is
[2:50:28]
public record Our street hasn't
[2:50:29]
been touched in over 30 years.
[2:50:34]
I have pictures here you know
[2:50:34]
this doesn't do justice.
[2:50:38]
She's been there three years
[2:50:39]
ago or so.
[2:50:40]
We've been anxiously waiting
[2:50:44]
for repair and just continue
[2:50:45]
waiting.
[2:50:45]
So I was proactive this year
[2:50:50]
the beginning of the year I
[2:50:51]
emailed Mayor Todd Gloria four
[2:50:51]
times including MS..
[2:50:56]
Moreno, the Department of
[2:50:56]
Transportation.
[2:50:57]
I am just here representing my
[2:51:02]
community and my husband and I
[2:51:03]
as well as every resident has
[2:51:07]
paid and continues to pace
[2:51:08]
taxes.
[2:51:09]
So I think we need to make our
[2:51:14]
voice heard and we will do what
[2:51:15]
it takes to make some noise and
[2:51:19]
get everybody's attention.
[2:51:20]
With that being said, let me
[2:51:21]
see Hopefully I'm not missing
[2:51:23]
anything in these two minutes I
[2:51:24]
did I would like to end with
[2:51:29]
something from the media 2026
[2:51:30]
State of the City address
[2:51:34]
The voices of residents on
[2:51:35]
the thousand thousand block of
[2:51:39]
Granger Street and 1400 block
[2:51:40]
of Illinois Avenue have gone
[2:51:40]
unheard.
[2:51:41]
Request for resurfacing in our
[2:51:44]
neighborhood has been ignored
[2:51:45]
for decades and then the mayor
[2:51:50]
in his recent and that means
[2:51:51]
roads are smooth sidewalks
[2:51:52]
without trip hazard three
[2:51:56]
lights that work anyway you
[2:51:56]
know it Thank you Thank you for
[2:51:59]
your time and hopefully we can
[2:52:00]
give that concluding comment.
[2:52:11]
Anthony Hello City Council I
[2:52:12]
wanted to start today by
[2:52:13]
thanking Johnny Lou Rivera for
[2:52:16]
the proposed empty homes tax
[2:52:17]
and I wanted to thank everybody
[2:52:18]
else on the board that voted in
[2:52:23]
favor of that including Kent
[2:52:23]
Lee, including MR. Whitburn and
[2:52:24]
I believe as well.
[2:52:29]
And Joe LaCava and Raul Camille
[2:52:30]
who's not here today.
[2:52:31]
But I wanted to start by
[2:52:33]
thanking y'all for pushing that
[2:52:34]
legislation forward That means
[2:52:34]
a lot to the people of San
[2:52:38]
Diego and that will go a long
[2:52:39]
way in making housing
[2:52:40]
affordable for everyone here in
[2:52:40]
San Diego.
[2:52:43]
So thank you very much for
[2:52:44]
doing that.
[2:52:44]
Part of the reason why I'm here
[2:52:45]
today is because I wanted to
[2:52:49]
talk about Floc which has meant
[2:52:50]
a lot to me and my safety or my
[2:52:51]
feeling of lack of safety And I
[2:52:55]
wanted to talk about how
[2:52:56]
everything from a human being
[2:52:59]
down to the smallest electron
[2:53:00]
changes its behavior when it
[2:53:01]
knows that it's being observed.
[2:53:05]
And this issue is to me a
[2:53:06]
violation of the Fourth
[2:53:06]
Amendment.
[2:53:07]
And I'm very concerned that
[2:53:10]
activists like myself will no
[2:53:11]
longer feel comfortable and
[2:53:16]
safe doing the work and trying
[2:53:17]
to keep everyone in our town
[2:53:17]
safe with the issues that we
[2:53:22]
love When we find out about
[2:53:22]
issues like Operation Road
[2:53:23]
flayer which just surfaced
[2:53:27]
which we now know is a project
[2:53:28]
of which ice is engaged with
[2:53:32]
along with the dhs in targeting
[2:53:33]
activists specifically Gene
[2:53:33]
Wong and Arturo Gonzalez who
[2:53:38]
are both friends of mine.
[2:53:39]
And these documents were
[2:53:39]
revealed in Gene Wong's court
[2:53:44]
appearance down at the Superior
[2:53:44]
Court a couple of weeks ago.
[2:53:45]
And this is exactly what we
[2:53:49]
were fearing.
[2:53:49]
A couple of months ago when we
[2:53:50]
were having this discussion
[2:53:51]
about Floc in these chambers
[2:53:54]
was that this technology could
[2:53:55]
and would be utilized to begin
[2:53:59]
going after activists.
[2:54:00]
And so now I'm asking you all
[2:54:01]
to please reconsider your
[2:54:04]
position on Floc And please
[2:54:05]
don't continue casting this
[2:54:06]
mass surveillance dragnet on
[2:54:10]
activists like myself and my
[2:54:11]
friends.
[2:54:11]
>> Thank you.
[2:54:12]
Thank you for that concluding
[2:54:12]
comment.
[2:54:13]
So in the meantime we're going
[2:54:16]
to those participating
[2:54:16]
remotely.
[2:54:17]
We currently have eight
[2:54:18]
speakers with their hands
[2:54:18]
raised starting with Terri and
[2:54:22]
Scully.
[2:54:23]
Please unmute After that will
[2:54:24]
be Francine Maxwell Terri and
[2:54:26]
please proceed.
[2:54:27]
Good afternoon City of City
[2:54:28]
Council.
[2:54:32]
My name is Terri Skelly.
[2:54:33]
I'm a planning group member, a
[2:54:33]
parent and a public health
[2:54:37]
educator.
[2:54:38]
Last week kp we interviewed
[2:54:39]
Grady's Children's Hospital
[2:54:43]
pediatrician DR. Natalie Long
[2:54:46]
regarding the increase of 600
[2:54:47]
adolescents to its emergency
[2:54:51]
room in 2025 because they
[2:54:51]
needed treatment of some kind
[2:54:52]
for their cannabis use.
[2:54:56]
She said that and I quote Prior
[2:54:57]
to 2020 we were only seeing a
[2:55:02]
handful of adolescent a year,
[2:55:02]
maybe 20 or 30.
[2:55:03]
Cannabis products are far more
[2:55:07]
potent today than what previous
[2:55:08]
generations were exposed to.
[2:55:12]
End quote.
[2:55:13]
Pbs interviewed DR. Lab in
[2:55:14]
response to the new research
[2:55:17]
published in the Journal of
[2:55:18]
American Medical Association
[2:55:19]
regarding cannabis use with
[2:55:23]
increased risk for serious
[2:55:24]
mental health conditions.
[2:55:24]
The strongest associations
[2:55:28]
the study found was for
[2:55:29]
psychotic and bipolar disorders
[2:55:33]
where the risk was about
[2:55:33]
doubled.
[2:55:34]
And importantly teens reported
[2:55:38]
on their cannabis use about 1
[2:55:38]
to 2 years before their mental
[2:55:43]
health diagnosis.
[2:55:44]
Again, DR. Lab is low but is
[2:55:49]
quoted and I quote We see this
[2:55:49]
public health crisis emerging
[2:55:50]
in children and young adults
[2:55:54]
with early initiation of
[2:55:55]
cannabis use.
[2:55:55]
End quote.
[2:55:59]
I think we as residents need to
[2:56:00]
ask ourselves what this early
[2:56:04]
use marijuana means for
[2:56:05]
the long term well-being of our
[2:56:06]
younger residents and the many
[2:56:10]
who care about them and take
[2:56:11]
responsibility for reducing
[2:56:14]
visibility and promotions that
[2:56:15]
come with selling marijuana
[2:56:15]
here in our city.
[2:56:20]
Thank you for hearing me this
[2:56:20]
afternoon.
[2:56:21]
Thank you.
[2:56:21]
Next is Francine Maxwell.
[2:56:25]
If you can please unmute.
[2:56:26]
After that is medicine Francine
[2:56:30]
Maxwell Southeastern San Diego
[2:56:30]
resident.
[2:56:31]
I think I heard from
[2:56:34]
the diocese today that we want
[2:56:35]
the community to feel safer and
[2:56:36]
so this council should be
[2:56:40]
asking why they're not getting
[2:56:41]
more updates from the dpp.
[2:56:45]
We are extremely excited to
[2:56:46]
have an executive director.
[2:56:46]
But you haven't shared with
[2:56:47]
the community why we don't have
[2:56:50]
our attorney.
[2:56:51]
We have been in meet and Confer
[2:56:52]
for almost three years so that
[2:56:55]
also erodes the trust.
[2:56:56]
We completely understand that
[2:56:57]
we will be in meet and confer
[2:56:57]
for a while.
[2:57:01]
But again any opportunity to
[2:57:01]
share information with
[2:57:05]
the community on where we are
[2:57:06]
because the cp does not have
[2:57:10]
their own attorney and that's
[2:57:11]
what that's what we voted for.
[2:57:16]
And so again we want to build
[2:57:16]
trust and not having an
[2:57:17]
attorney doesn't do that.
[2:57:21]
But what could build trust and
[2:57:21]
what should open up
[2:57:22]
the communication with
[2:57:25]
the council along with
[2:57:26]
the community is that post is
[2:57:29]
in town MARCH 3rd, fourth and
[2:57:30]
fifth and some of our San Diego
[2:57:34]
pd MAY be in those particular
[2:57:34]
conversations and in those
[2:57:35]
presentations.
[2:57:38]
And so we need to be educated
[2:57:39]
and make sure that if people
[2:57:43]
have the time can go on MARCH
[2:57:44]
3rd, fourth and fifth down to
[2:57:45]
the post meeting which is going
[2:57:49]
to be down at Caltrans, very
[2:57:50]
important opportunity to find
[2:57:53]
out about other officers that
[2:57:54]
MAY help educate people and get
[2:57:58]
them to file more complaints
[2:57:59]
against some of our officers so
[2:58:00]
that we can change some of
[2:58:03]
the training, love
[2:58:04]
the direction that we're going
[2:58:04]
in for training.
[2:58:09]
But sometimes training is just
[2:58:09]
not enough.
[2:58:10]
There's an undergird and
[2:58:10]
there's a lot of private
[2:58:13]
conversations.
[2:58:14]
There's a lot of back door
[2:58:15]
conversations going on But
[2:58:18]
you're not holding a hearing
[2:58:18]
with the constituents and
[2:58:19]
you're not holding town halls
[2:58:20]
on public safety.
[2:58:24]
So again, let's let's let's
[2:58:24]
dive in and let's build trust
[2:58:26]
and have hard conversations in
[2:58:32]
safe places.
[2:58:33]
Madison if you can please
[2:58:33]
unmute after that is Andrea in
[2:58:36]
Madison Please unmute.
[2:58:36]
>> Okay.
[2:58:37]
Thank you.
[2:58:37]
Good afternoon.
[2:58:41]
City Council members.
[2:58:42]
I'm here this afternoon as a
[2:58:43]
community member concerned
[2:58:46]
about an issue affecting young
[2:58:47]
people in San Diego which is
[2:58:51]
the rise in use of inhalants
[2:58:51]
including nitrous oxide
[2:58:52]
products commonly known as
[2:58:52]
whippets.
[2:58:56]
These products are inexpensive,
[2:58:57]
widely available and often
[2:59:01]
perceived by teens as harmless
[2:59:01]
because they're sold legally
[2:59:02]
for culinary purposes.
[2:59:06]
But when misused, inhaling
[2:59:07]
nitrous oxide can deprive
[2:59:11]
the brain of oxygen in seconds
[2:59:11]
That can lead to a loss of
[2:59:12]
consciousness seizures,
[2:59:16]
traumatic falls and in some
[2:59:17]
cases sudden death.
[2:59:21]
Repeated use carries longer
[2:59:21]
term risks.
[2:59:22]
Medical professionals have
[2:59:26]
documented nerve damage spinal
[2:59:27]
cord injury, vitamin b12
[2:59:30]
depletion, cognitive impairment
[2:59:31]
,depression and psychosis all
[2:59:32]
linked to heavy nitrous oxide
[2:59:36]
exposure because it acts so
[2:59:37]
quickly on the brain.
[2:59:38]
It can also be psychologically
[2:59:41]
reinforcing for adolescents
[2:59:41]
whose brains are still
[2:59:42]
developing.
[2:59:45]
>> What makes this especially
[2:59:46]
concerning is how accessible
[2:59:46]
these products are.
[2:59:47]
In many neighborhoods they are
[2:59:51]
sold in smoke shops alongside
[2:59:51]
other intoxicating substances.
[2:59:55]
We are normalizing retail
[2:59:56]
environments that cluster mind
[3:00:00]
altering products together and
[3:00:01]
our youth are paying attention.
[3:00:02]
As a city we often talk about
[3:00:05]
mental health and equity and
[3:00:06]
preventing youth access to
[3:00:09]
harmful inhalants fits squarely
[3:00:10]
within those goals.
[3:00:10]
I encourage the Council to
[3:00:15]
examine enforcement retailers
[3:00:15]
education and whether
[3:00:16]
additional safeguards might be
[3:00:20]
needed to limit youth access
[3:00:20]
and reduce bulk sales that
[3:00:21]
clearly signal misuse.
[3:00:25]
Brain development continues
[3:00:25]
into the mid-twenties.
[3:00:26]
The decisions we make about
[3:00:31]
retail environments and public
[3:00:31]
health protections matter.
[3:00:32]
>> Thank you.
[3:00:32]
Thank you.
[3:00:35]
The five minute timer did
[3:00:35]
conclude during her comment.
[3:00:36]
There were eight people in
[3:00:37]
the queue and no additional
[3:00:39]
speakers will be taken after
[3:00:39]
those eight.
[3:00:40]
Next is Andrea evening and
[3:00:41]
after that is phone number
[3:00:44]
ending and 8707 for 99.
[3:00:44]
Please proceed Andrea.
[3:00:51]
Is Andrea ebbing and I am a
[3:00:52]
mother of three beautiful girls
[3:00:57]
who were all abducted from San
[3:00:57]
Diego.
[3:00:58]
They're in two separate states
[3:00:58]
with two felony charge
[3:01:01]
perpetrators of domestic
[3:01:02]
violence.
[3:01:02]
With me as their name victim.
[3:01:06]
So my daughters were ripped out
[3:01:07]
of their home away from each
[3:01:11]
other, taken thousands of miles
[3:01:16]
away from me and each other on
[3:01:16]
a permanently suspended license
[3:01:17]
by somebody who just had
[3:01:21]
strangled me on video.
[3:01:21]
My other ex, the one who paid
[3:01:22]
for their shared attorney whose
[3:01:25]
name is Ben Embry who is also
[3:01:26]
an attorney and another case in
[3:01:30]
which summer Stephan protected
[3:01:31]
and defended only her husband
[3:01:35]
and perpetrator who is a Rancho
[3:01:36]
Santa Fe doctor.
[3:01:37]
>> This woman was pushed to
[3:01:37]
suicide.
[3:01:40]
Her name is Alexander von
[3:01:40]
Alexander von Tonder.
[3:01:44]
She survived but she was
[3:01:45]
abandoned too.
[3:01:46]
We are traumatized And I know
[3:01:50]
you got these emails and I want
[3:01:51]
to know like it is you people
[3:01:54]
sitting up there did not take
[3:01:55]
my children.
[3:01:55]
You didn't sell my children.
[3:02:00]
Judge Paula Rosenstein did
[3:02:01]
summer stuff and did Harold all
[3:02:01]
of her Did you kill your mom?
[3:02:05]
Did Billy Driver or did Kelly
[3:02:09]
Thomas did did haul into fire
[3:02:13]
did right So but when I'm
[3:02:14]
reporting stuff like my ex's
[3:02:18]
partner is an opioid dealer who
[3:02:19]
had written 78,000 scripts and
[3:02:22]
dead people and prisoners names
[3:02:22]
and had rehab patients and
[3:02:23]
homeless people pick them up
[3:02:27]
and distribute those drugs and
[3:02:28]
he only got 18 months for it
[3:02:29]
After his sixth medical license
[3:02:33]
revocation as well as Prakash
[3:02:34]
Bashir, a psychiatrist that
[3:02:34]
summer Stephan used to commit
[3:02:37]
Nancy Sussman is also an opioid
[3:02:38]
dealer And then these people
[3:02:38]
continue to get contracts.
[3:02:42]
I'm begging you guys to hold
[3:02:43]
these people accountable.
[3:02:43]
I don't know if you have
[3:02:46]
the power to do it but I am
[3:02:47]
begging you to hear my voice
[3:02:48]
because we need each other.
[3:02:52]
Thank you.
[3:02:52]
Thank you.
[3:02:53]
Next is 8700 if you can please
[3:02:56]
unmute after that is 74998 700.
[3:02:57]
There you go.
[3:03:03]
I thank you.
[3:03:03]
I join you out of the three.
[3:03:04]
A couple of things before I
[3:03:06]
make my point.
[3:03:10]
PRESIDENT Thank you For what
[3:03:11]
you said regarding the budget
[3:03:11]
on that Ali naming item I
[3:03:15]
really really appreciated that
[3:03:20]
That was just such a little
[3:03:20]
thing but it was a great
[3:03:21]
statement.
[3:03:21]
Thank you.
[3:03:25]
Now I want to say this before I
[3:03:25]
get to my main point I'm
[3:03:26]
probably going to run out of
[3:03:26]
time.
[3:03:29]
City Clerk But anyway, so be it
[3:03:30]
San Diego County Water
[3:03:34]
Authority.
[3:03:35]
When are we going to wake up to
[3:03:39]
them Now?
[3:03:39]
I'm going to research this
[3:03:43]
later But are they Do they have
[3:03:44]
a vested interest and are
[3:03:49]
legally obligated to do what
[3:03:49]
they make us do with the 50% or
[3:03:53]
if it to do with being they
[3:03:54]
don't pay for it or whatever?
[3:03:54]
What are they doing?
[3:03:58]
Are they putting ourselves Are
[3:03:59]
they just I don't get what's
[3:03:59]
going on here.
[3:04:03]
We have a great city attorney's
[3:04:04]
office.
[3:04:07]
Why don't they know legally
[3:04:08]
obligated to do with these
[3:04:13]
people And it's not a blessing
[3:04:13]
to the people.
[3:04:14]
It's the systems that they work
[3:04:18]
with that they condone that
[3:04:19]
make me so angry.
[3:04:20]
So I'll have to wait and speak
[3:04:23]
later.
[3:04:24]
But I'll say something briefly.
[3:04:27]
I'll speak on that Colorado
[3:04:28]
River crisis article probably
[3:04:32]
tomorrow.
[3:04:33]
But I just want to say that if
[3:04:34]
you go before the water comes
[3:04:38]
out of the dams that's at
[3:04:39]
the fence and within to
[3:04:39]
reservoir which is 15 miles
[3:04:42]
northeast of the city and then
[3:04:43]
you go north in a canoe
[3:04:47]
backwards look at that network,
[3:04:48]
start with the snow in
[3:04:49]
the mountains and throw our
[3:04:51]
water down.
[3:04:52]
You won't believe what's
[3:04:52]
happening.
[3:04:57]
It's not nice and we've got to
[3:04:58]
do something about it.
[3:04:58]
>> Thank you.
[3:04:59]
Love to all Thank you.
[3:05:02]
Next 27499 if you come please
[3:05:03]
on mute After that is back you
[3:05:06]
wrap for Bob Kozinski here.
[3:05:10]
>> I've noticed that more and
[3:05:11]
more city departments are using
[3:05:12]
constant contact to send
[3:05:15]
marketing email to citizens.
[3:05:16]
So I did a search on constant
[3:05:16]
contact abuses.
[3:05:20]
Here's what and a summary that
[3:05:20]
I got back said quote Constant
[3:05:21]
contact has been associated
[3:05:25]
with various abuses including
[3:05:26]
credential phishing attacks
[3:05:26]
where threat actors compromised
[3:05:30]
accounts to send malicious
[3:05:30]
email.
[3:05:31]
These incidents highlight
[3:05:35]
the risks of using shared email
[3:05:35]
marketing platforms as
[3:05:36]
compromised accounts can lead
[3:05:39]
to widespread phishing attempts
[3:05:40]
leveraging the platform's
[3:05:41]
trusted reputation to deceive
[3:05:41]
recipients.
[3:05:45]
Cybercriminals have also abused
[3:05:46]
content contacts infrastructure
[3:05:46]
to create malicious links
[3:05:50]
leading to credential theft and
[3:05:51]
quote.
[3:05:51]
So why is the city using
[3:05:54]
constant contact to communicate
[3:05:55]
with citizens?
[3:05:56]
For example, the city clerk's
[3:05:56]
website has a button that says
[3:05:59]
quote Sign up for city council
[3:06:00]
agenda and updates distribution
[3:06:00]
list quote.
[3:06:04]
But that link goes to constant
[3:06:05]
contact pages.Com The city's
[3:06:05]
Parks and Recreation department
[3:06:09]
has a link title quote Sign up
[3:06:10]
to receive meeting agendas news
[3:06:14]
and updates end quote.
[3:06:14]
But there sign up link also
[3:06:15]
goes to constant contact icon.
[3:06:18]
Why can't the city send its own
[3:06:18]
email messages to citizens
[3:06:19]
without involving a third party
[3:06:19]
business?
[3:06:22]
Similarly why are the City
[3:06:23]
Council agenda archives
[3:06:27]
maintained by Highland Cloud?
[3:06:28]
If you go to the city Clerk's
[3:06:29]
website City clerk Official
[3:06:31]
Docs Ledgers Docs Brown Act
[3:06:32]
you'll find that the current
[3:06:32]
agenda in pdf format is there.
[3:06:33]
It's beautiful.
[3:06:36]
Thank you City Clerk.
[3:06:37]
But none of the archived
[3:06:37]
agendas are there.
[3:06:41]
Instead there's a link to quote
[3:06:41]
past agendas and minutes and
[3:06:42]
that link of course redirects
[3:06:45]
to Highland cloud.Com.
[3:06:46]
Why is it that the city Clerk
[3:06:47]
can post the current agenda to
[3:06:50]
the city's own website but
[3:06:51]
can't just leave it there as an
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archive?
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Why is the city paying private
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businesses to deliver public
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content?
[3:06:57]
As we've learned from Torrey
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Pines Glider Port the mixture
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of government monopoly and
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private greed is never good.
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Please stop selling your
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citizens to private businesses.
[3:07:06]
>> Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Next is Becky Wrap if you can
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please unmute Also if you raise
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your hand after the five minute
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timer we will not be able to
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take you today but you can
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definitely email your comments
[3:07:19]
in the city clerk at San Diego
[3:07:20]
and those will be distributed.
[3:07:21]
Please proceed.
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Becky.
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>> Thank you and good afternoon
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Council PRESIDENT And council
[3:07:26]
members.
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My name is Becky Rapp and today
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I'd like to draw your attention
[3:07:34]
to a major new brain imaging
[3:07:34]
study published in jama by
[3:07:35]
researchers at the University
[3:07:38]
of Colorado.
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This was the largest mri study
[3:07:43]
ever conducted on marijuana and
[3:07:43]
cognition testing more than a
[3:07:44]
thousand young adults between
[3:07:47]
the ages of 22 and 36.
[3:07:48]
Findings are very concerning.
[3:07:51]
Heavy marijuana use was
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associated with significantly
[3:07:56]
reduced brain activity.
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63% of users showed diminished
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neural response.
[3:08:02]
The reduced activity was seen
[3:08:02]
in parts of the brain
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responsible for executive
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control, attention and
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emotional processing.
[3:08:07]
These are the very areas we
[3:08:11]
rely on for judgment, impulse
[3:08:12]
control and safe decision
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making.
[3:08:16]
Young adulthood is a critical
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time for brain development and
[3:08:20]
exposure to high potency
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marijuana which is being sold
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in our city's pot shops has
[3:08:25]
serious consequences.
[3:08:26]
I urge this Council to ensure
[3:08:27]
that public education and
[3:08:31]
prevention become a top
[3:08:31]
priority.
[3:08:32]
San Diego has an opportunity to
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lead with evidence based
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studies.
[3:08:36]
So I urge this Council to
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consider what will the future
[3:08:41]
look like look like in San
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Diego?
[3:08:44]
If younger generations are
[3:08:45]
suffering from preventable
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cognitive impairment.
[3:08:49]
Thank you.
[3:08:50]
>> Thank you.
[3:08:50]
Next is John Stump.
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If you can please unmute the.
[3:08:58]
Thank you.
[3:09:03]
To be quick I want to talk to
[3:09:07]
particularly the PRESIDENT And
[3:09:08]
the council about the format
[3:09:12]
and content of staff reports.
[3:09:17]
The format and content of staff
[3:09:22]
reports needs to be seriously
[3:09:22]
reviewed to consider what's not
[3:09:27]
in there and what's not in
[3:09:27]
there is that free lunches and
[3:09:32]
hidden subsidy.
[3:09:32]
The council PRESIDENT Made a
[3:09:33]
good point about the street
[3:09:37]
side and its cost but of course
[3:09:41]
those costs didn't include
[3:09:42]
the cost to install and
[3:09:42]
the cost to have that on
[3:09:46]
the agenda today.
[3:09:51]
Hidden subsidies.
[3:09:52]
Many organizations who do great
[3:09:56]
things get a free lunch.
[3:09:56]
They get support from
[3:10:00]
the council for their lease or
[3:10:01]
their activity.
[3:10:05]
But the council never considers
[3:10:06]
what it costs to maintain that
[3:10:11]
facility or activate.
[3:10:11]
In the end I'll give you an
[3:10:12]
example.
[3:10:13]
You know the Lake Hodges thing
[3:10:16]
is a clear example.
[3:10:17]
One guy one group says we don't
[3:10:20]
need like Hodges and we don't
[3:10:20]
want to subsidize.
[3:10:24]
That's a sound decision at
[3:10:25]
the city.
[3:10:29]
It's get we have SeaWorld which
[3:10:34]
has a contract which provides
[3:10:35]
for reimbursement of this to
[3:10:35]
the city and the city costs
[3:10:39]
associate it with SeaWorld
[3:10:40]
activities But the other venues
[3:10:44]
operate like the zoo my
[3:10:45]
favorite and they don't
[3:10:49]
reimburse the city for its cost
[3:10:53]
just because they say we're
[3:10:54]
going to bring in revenues
[3:10:59]
really is not financial
[3:10:59]
analysis that's betting on that
[3:11:04]
Come okay Thank you very much.
[3:11:04]
>> Thank you.
[3:11:05]
Next is Judy Strang If you can
[3:11:08]
please unmute.
[3:11:09]
>> Good afternoon City Council.
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Thank you for this opportunity
[3:11:14]
to share some thoughts I've
[3:11:14]
had.
[3:11:17]
We are planning our afterschool
[3:11:18]
program for mentoring and
[3:11:22]
touring of bike lanes for
[3:11:23]
elementary school students.
[3:11:24]
And as such I receive a lot of
[3:11:28]
information about research
[3:11:29]
going on for teens and a lot of
[3:11:33]
information regarding
[3:11:33]
the challenges they face And
[3:11:34]
since I work with them every
[3:11:38]
day I get to see it firsthand.
[3:11:39]
A previous speaker mentioned a
[3:11:43]
research that's just come out
[3:11:43]
and reported in the Journal of
[3:11:44]
the American Medical
[3:11:47]
Association And I'd like to
[3:11:48]
tell you a little bit more
[3:11:49]
about it because it gets to
[3:11:49]
the heart of some of
[3:11:52]
the questions that we've had
[3:11:52]
regarding marijuana use and
[3:11:56]
mental health issues which
[3:11:57]
causes what?
[3:11:57]
This is a research using Kaiser
[3:12:02]
Permanente health system in
[3:12:06]
Northern California.
[3:12:07]
460,000 teenagers were followed
[3:12:10]
until they were 25 years old.
[3:12:11]
They were asked about their
[3:12:15]
marijuana use and then later if
[3:12:15]
they had mental health issues
[3:12:16]
they were trying to understand
[3:12:20]
what came first.
[3:12:20]
So they did not include in
[3:12:21]
the study anyone who was
[3:12:25]
already showing signs of mental
[3:12:25]
health issues.
[3:12:26]
They could just wanted to make
[3:12:29]
the connection between cannabis
[3:12:30]
use and mental health issues.
[3:12:31]
So they found that there was a
[3:12:34]
high number of teens who began
[3:12:35]
cannabis use as young teens who
[3:12:38]
later manifest in mental health
[3:12:43]
issues.
[3:12:43]
And particular the two they
[3:12:44]
noticed were the psychotic
[3:12:48]
disorders like schizophrenia as
[3:12:48]
well as bipolar.
[3:12:53]
These two particular diseases
[3:12:53]
are extremely expensive to
[3:12:58]
treat and debilitating for
[3:12:58]
everyone around them.
[3:12:59]
i think it becomes ever more
[3:13:02]
important for us to understand
[3:13:03]
the role of marijuana in
[3:13:03]
the role of our young people as
[3:13:07]
they travel this journey to
[3:13:08]
adulthood.
[3:13:08]
>> Thank you.
[3:13:09]
Thank you.
[3:13:13]
Next is Barbara Gordon If you
[3:13:13]
can please unmute Barbara.
[3:13:17]
Your final speaker.
[3:13:17]
>> Good afternoon.
[3:13:22]
I am here today to urge you to
[3:13:22]
address the alarming rise in
[3:13:27]
tobacco pouches such as Xen and
[3:13:27]
their impact on our youth.
[3:13:31]
These products marketed by
[3:13:32]
the tobacco industry as tobacco
[3:13:36]
free contain but that contain
[3:13:37]
nicotine are often perceived as
[3:13:40]
harmless particularly by
[3:13:41]
younger people.
[3:13:42]
Our high school and college
[3:13:45]
campuses are littered with
[3:13:46]
these packages.
[3:13:46]
These the low risk of
[3:13:50]
perception has led to
[3:13:51]
the increase of experimentation
[3:13:54]
and addiction among adolescents
[3:13:55]
jeopardizing their health and
[3:14:00]
future nicotine pouches during
[3:14:00]
adolescence can cause
[3:14:01]
significant cognitive
[3:14:04]
impairment and negatively
[3:14:05]
affect in attention learning
[3:14:09]
and impulse control.
[3:14:10]
Furthermore, young people who
[3:14:11]
use tobacco pouches are more
[3:14:14]
likely to transition to
[3:14:15]
traditional cigarets marijuana
[3:14:20]
and perpetuating the cycle of
[3:14:21]
addiction and health risk.
[3:14:21]
The flavored varieties of these
[3:14:25]
products further entice youth
[3:14:25]
masking the harshness of
[3:14:30]
tobacco making it easier for
[3:14:30]
them to start using.
[3:14:31]
I am asking the City Council to
[3:14:34]
consider a public service
[3:14:35]
campaign or initiative to raise
[3:14:40]
the awareness about the dangers
[3:14:41]
of these tobacco pouches.
[3:14:41]
By working together we can
[3:14:45]
foster a healthy environment
[3:14:46]
for our youth protecting them
[3:14:49]
from the manipulative tactics
[3:14:50]
of the tobacco industry and
[3:14:54]
ultimately reducing
[3:14:55]
the prevalence of tobacco use
[3:14:55]
in our community.
[3:15:00]
Thank you for letting me speak.
[3:15:00]
>> Thank you.
[3:15:01]
That does conclude our agenda
[3:15:04]
Public comment for this meeting
[3:15:05]
All right.
[3:15:05]
Thank you, City Clerk.
[3:15:09]
Does the city attorney have
[3:15:10]
anything to report out from
[3:15:10]
closed session?
[3:15:11]
There is nothing to report out
[3:15:12]
from closed session.
[3:15:14]
All right.
[3:15:14]
Thank you for confirming that.
[3:15:15]
We will now adjourn council to
[3:15:16]
the regularly scheduled council
[3:15:19]
meeting on Tuesday MARCH 3rd,