[0:56] will

[1:02] Good morning.

[1:02] >> I will now call the City

[1:03] Council meeting of Tuesday MAY

[1:08] 19th, 2026 to order After

[1:08] yesterday's deadly shooting I

[1:09] reaffirm our Council's

[1:10] commitment to root out hate in

[1:14] any and every forum hate me

[1:14] have no safe place in our city.

[1:15] As a city and a city council we

[1:20] stand in solidarity with

[1:21] the Islamic center of San Diego

[1:21] and the broader Muslim

[1:22] community.

[1:23] No we are with you and your

[1:23] pain.

[1:26] We are with you and your

[1:27] weeping and we are with you in

[1:27] your sorrow.

[1:31] Three lives were lost yesterday

[1:31] falling victim to senseless,

[1:32] vile and hateful violence

[1:33] including the life of a

[1:37] security guard whose heroism

[1:38] prevented additional loss of

[1:38] life.

[1:39] I am grateful to him and for

[1:43] the swift action of our first

[1:44] responders who secured

[1:44] the building to ensure a safe

[1:45] outcome for the children and

[1:48] school staff.

[1:49] My heart is with the families

[1:50] and loved ones of those lost

[1:50] and those affected by

[1:53] yesterday's tragic events.

[1:54] Please join me in a moment of

[2:57] silence

[2:58] .

[2:58] Thank you.

[2:59] Would any of my colleagues like

[3:00] to share a few words?

[3:04] Council Member Campbell Thank

[3:05] you and thank you for your

[3:11] words.

[3:11] Council PRESIDENT My heart is

[3:16] in the hearts of my staff.

[3:17] Go out to the families and

[3:17] friends of those who lost their

[3:22] lives yesterday in a senseless

[3:22] act of hatred and violence.

[3:23] Our community is in shock from

[3:28] this violent hate crime in

[3:28] the strongest terms I condemn

[3:34] this act of anti-Islam advocate

[3:35] and all hate and all hate

[3:35] crimes.

[3:40] There's absolutely no place in

[3:40] San Diego for hate or violence

[3:41] of any kind.

[3:46] All San Diego does deserve

[3:46] dignity, respect and safety.

[3:52] America was founded on

[3:52] the principle of freedom for

[3:53] all people and act of hate

[3:58] based on race, religion, creed

[3:58] or sexual orientation are

[3:59] fundamentally un-American and

[4:04] do not represent our country's

[4:04] values.

[4:09] >> We appreciate the good work

[4:10] of our public safety officers

[4:16] and we send our heartfelt

[4:17] sympathy to the families

[4:17] involved.

[4:18] >> Thank you.

[4:18] Thank you.

[4:22] Council member Campbell.

[4:23] With that Mark, please call

[4:29] the roll if I MAY.

[4:29] Councilmember Foster Thank you.

[4:34] Council PRESIDENT And my

[4:35] apologies for coming on the mic

[4:40] late but I just want to take a

[4:45] moment from yesterday's

[4:46] actions.

[4:54] It's just heartbreaking And I

[4:55] think we have said over and

[5:00] over from this dais that there

[5:01] is no place for hate in San

[5:06] Diego.

[5:07] But I think as much as we say

[5:11] that I think we all need to

[5:15] understand that San Diego is

[5:23] that our words matter no matter

[5:23] the challenges that we face,

[5:34] the rhetoric that is being

[5:35] provided It has never been more

[5:41] divisive in my time in the 50

[5:47] years that I've been walking

[5:47] But I would like to think is

[5:52] the United States of America

[5:53] And I just want to throw

[5:58] caution to the wind.

[6:04] We can disagree on a policy but

[6:05] I'm just not understanding

[6:10] where the hate continues to

[6:10] come from.

[6:16] And so if we can as we continue

[6:16] to move forward and as we

[6:21] continue to look at how we make

[6:22] the United States a better

[6:27] place as we look to make

[6:28] the city of San Diego a better

[6:29] place, please, please let's

[6:33] spend more time loving our

[6:33] neighbors, learning our

[6:40] neighbors, accepting our

[6:40] neighbors.

[6:45] All of us are different.

[6:46] I'd like to say all of us are

[6:46] custom made.

[6:47] That's why you have your

[6:48] fingerprints.

[6:51] I have my fingerprints.

[6:51] We are going to be inherently

[6:52] different.

[6:57] But different is not wrong.

[7:02] Religious beliefs are not wrong

[7:03] .

[7:04] We must embrace and we must

[7:07] love on one another.

[7:13] I also just want to acknowledge

[7:14] I mean I believe the security

[7:19] guard that lost his life he was

[7:25] a District four resident and as

[7:25] a chief of police said

[7:30] yesterday he is a hero.

[7:31] It's my understanding if he

[7:32] would not have intervened that

[7:32] potentially those shooters

[7:37] would have found their way to a

[7:37] classroom full of young kids.

[7:38] And so I think we all need to

[7:43] understand that.

[7:48] And again, I just ask that we

[7:49] must spend more time loving on

[7:53] one another and trying to

[7:53] understand one another and

[7:54] accepting one another no matter

[7:59] what the differences are.

[8:00] And thank you, Council

[8:04] PRESIDENT And thank you to our

[8:05] first responders and thank you

[8:06] to the families.

[8:10] I can only imagine what

[8:11] the phone call could have been

[8:11] as a parent and you get that

[8:16] phone call of a situation like

[8:17] that happening with your kids.

[8:17] So my heart goes out to

[8:22] the community the entire city

[8:23] of San Diego and my heart goes

[8:28] out to MR. Ameena Abdulla and

[8:28] his family.

[8:34] He had a family kids life.

[8:34] So thank you.

[8:35] Thank you for the courage.

[8:40] But it this is just a tragic

[8:41] but a tragedy that we have to

[8:47] come endure this.

[8:48] So thank you council PRESIDENT.

[8:48] That concludes my comments.

[8:53] Thank you.

[8:53] >> Gloucester Council PRESIDENT

[8:54] Pro Tem Kelly Thank I suppose

[8:58] I'll be short here but thank

[8:58] you for offering some remarks

[8:59] on behalf of the Council and of

[9:00] course adjourning yesterday's

[9:03] meetings in light of everything

[9:03] taking place.

[9:04] I think as a parent like many

[9:09] others hearing the news

[9:10] recognizing that involved not

[9:15] just the mosque but a school

[9:16] was very jarring.

[9:16] The thing for me was to see

[9:17] the images and videos of

[9:21] children having to be evacuated

[9:21] and led to safety.

[9:22] I appreciate the words of

[9:27] Councilmember Foster because I

[9:28] think we do talk a lot about

[9:33] hate and we've seen it and it's

[9:33] in many forms in our community

[9:34] over the years And I think

[9:35] there's no doubt in people's

[9:39] minds that what we've seen in

[9:40] terms of hate has arisen And it

[9:41] says a lot about where we are

[9:45] as a society and our need to

[9:45] respond.

[9:46] There's one there's something

[9:51] that I often say which is that

[9:52] we have to be better than this

[9:53] And I just want to add

[9:57] the words from our arts

[9:58] commissioner from District six,

[9:59] Dennis just one who was

[10:03] capturing this last night some

[10:04] of his own thoughts and he very

[10:05] simple but he he noted that at

[10:09] some point we have to choose to

[10:09] be better than this.

[10:10] And for me that single sentence

[10:15] has been quite profound because

[10:15] I think we all think we know

[10:16] what's right and wrong and how

[10:17] we can be better.

[10:21] But at the end the day there's

[10:21] a choice to be made And it's

[10:27] not just whether folks are in

[10:28] hate, it's also how we respond

[10:29] as a community and especially

[10:32] in a time of mourning how we

[10:33] choose to come together.

[10:34] So that's what I hope we

[10:35] continue to do as a city moving

[10:38] forward.

[10:38] >> Thank you.

[10:39] Thank you.

[10:40] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[10:40] All right.

[10:44] With that?

[10:45] Clerk Please call the roll.

[10:45] Thank you.

[10:46] Council PRESIDENT Council

[10:51] member Campbell here Council

[10:52] Member Weber Council Member

[10:55] Foster here Council Member Von

[10:56] Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

[11:02] Lee here Council Member Campion

[11:03] Council Member Moreno Present

[11:04] Council Member Elk River and

[11:09] Council PRESIDENT McGovern

[11:09] present Also attending

[11:10] the meeting our Chief Deputy

[11:11] City Attorney Cathy Simon.

[11:11] Independent Budget analyst

[11:15] Charles Margo Council Affairs

[11:16] Advisor in the Mayor's office

[11:17] criticizing and myself your

[11:17] city clerk the elephant as

[11:21] the Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[11:21] City Clerk.

[11:22] >> Quorum is now present as we

[11:26] too often do at city council

[11:26] meetings.

[11:27] I want to remind everyone about

[11:27] the city's practices and

[11:32] procedures for public comment

[11:33] at city council meetings

[11:33] The city welcomes public

[11:34] participation at our City

[11:38] Council meetings speakers MAY

[11:38] address the Council during

[11:39] public comment and also in

[11:40] connection with a specific item

[11:44] of business on the agenda.

[11:44] However, the city must make

[11:45] sure that no one person or

[11:46] group of people disrupt

[11:46] the meeting in a way that

[11:51] prohibits other speakers from

[11:51] expressing their ideas and

[11:52] opinions excessive yelling,

[11:53] screaming or speaking beyond

[11:56] once a lot of time for examples

[11:57] of such behavior that disrupts

[11:57] the meeting.

[11:58] So to make sure that everyone

[12:03] here has an opportunity to

[12:03] address the council I will

[12:04] alert an individual or

[12:04] individuals if I think their

[12:08] conduct becomes disruptive.

[12:09] The disruption continues.

[12:10] I won't rule the individual out

[12:10] of order and after

[12:11] the disruption continues

[12:15] further I will declare a recess

[12:16] so we can restore order.

[12:16] At that point I will direct

[12:17] the individual to leave

[12:21] the room and if the individual

[12:22] refuses the police will escort

[12:22] the individual out of

[12:23] the building.

[12:26] If we have to repeat this

[12:27] process of warning and

[12:27] recessing the meeting, all

[12:28] members of the public will be

[12:29] excused from the council

[12:29] chamber.

[12:32] Credentialed media will be

[12:33] allowed to remain.

[12:33] Once again we have these

[12:34] practices and procedures to

[12:35] protect the rights of others

[12:38] who wish to address the Council

[12:39] and to allow the Council to

[12:40] conduct the public's business.

[12:44] With that we will begin this

[12:45] morning with the land

[12:45] acknowledgment and the Pledge

[12:46] of Allegiance led by Council

[12:50] member Moreno.

[12:55] Will you please stand?

[12:56] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[12:57] that becoming a nation are

[12:57] the original inhabitants of

[13:02] the Unceded land now known as

[13:02] San Diego.

[13:03] Despite enduring the horrors of

[13:04] genocide and colonization,

[13:08] the coming ice spirit remains

[13:09] unbroken.

[13:09] We honor the resilience of

[13:10] their ancestors who fought to

[13:15] protect their culture and land.

[13:15] Today they carry their legacy

[13:16] forward ensuring that their

[13:20] traditions continue to thrive

[13:21] in gratitude and strength.

[13:21] We stand with the United Nation

[13:22] connected to our past and

[13:27] committed to a thriving future.

[13:28] If you could please face

[13:28] the flag, put your hand over

[13:32] your heart and repeat after me

[13:32] .

[13:33] I pledge allegiance to the flag

[13:34] of the United States of America

[13:38] and to the Republic for which

[13:39] it stands one nation under GOD,

[13:41] indivisible with liberty and

[13:42] justice for all.

[13:48] Clerk Please go over how

[13:49] the public can offer their

[13:55] testimony.

[13:55] Thank you.

[13:55] Council PRESIDENT.

[13:56] I'd now like to highlight

[13:57] the slide on the screen that

[14:01] reviews the public enough of

[14:01] their public testimony during

[14:02] today's meeting.

[14:02] Please note the time

[14:03] allocations for proclamations

[14:05] and consent items for meeting

[14:06] management purposes is one item

[14:10] one minute per item with three

[14:10] minutes max For three or more

[14:11] items the order can be found on

[14:12] the agenda Summary found online

[14:17] or at the table in the back of

[14:17] the room.

[14:18] If you're in person please

[14:19] complete the speaker set

[14:19] looking at the entrance of

[14:22] chambers and bring it to

[14:22] the front of the room.

[14:23] Council members are available

[14:24] near the entrance and can

[14:24] assist with questions and

[14:27] speakers Lips no further

[14:28] in-person testimony will be

[14:28] taken once the council begins

[14:29] Virtual testimony.

[14:30] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[14:30] right.

[14:34] Thank you Clerk For our first

[14:34] order of business this morning

[14:35] I will be returning a few items

[14:40] back to staff First from our

[14:41] last use me proclamations I'm

[14:44] returning items 33 and 39 again

[14:45] 33 and 39 will not be heard

[14:50] this morning Then two items

[14:51] scheduled for our afternoon

[14:55] session item 330 and as final

[14:57] three again item 330 and as

[15:00] final three will not be heard

[15:01] this afternoon, These items are

[15:02] now returned to staff and will

[15:07] be heard at a later date.

[15:07] With that we will dispense with

[15:08] the balance of the proclamation

[15:12] items.

[15:13] >> City Clerk Thank you Council

[15:14] PRESIDENT The proclamation

[15:19] items being approved are items

[15:20] 30 through 3234 through 38 and

[15:23] s 502 s5o2 with as the Council

[15:27] PRESIDENT Noted item 33 and 39

[15:27] being returned to staff.

[15:31] We did receive comments on item

[15:32] 31 in favor of your comment

[15:33] form which have been

[15:33] distributed to the Council for

[15:38] the long period for

[15:38] the proclamation is now open

[15:39] Each speaker will have one

[15:40] minute per item per person.

[15:43] If you would like to speak on

[15:44] three or more items you'll have

[15:45] a maximum of three minutes If I

[15:45] can have the following

[15:49] individuals please come

[15:50] forward.

[15:55] Katrina Spears Bucket Please

[15:56] come forward and you have time

[15:56] to you by Cynthia Gilliam if

[15:57] you can please raise your hand

[16:01] So then thank you And you're

[16:05] speaking on item as 5o2 You'll

[16:06] have two minutes once you get

[16:11] to the microphone.

[16:18] Good morning everyone.

[16:19] First off I would acknowledge

[16:19] other council members and thank

[16:20] you for having us here today

[16:24] and everyone here as well.

[16:25] I have had my mother in

[16:29] the pink hat that is to Marcia

[16:30] Billie Joe Spears And I'm here

[16:31] today to not only honor her but

[16:37] to recognize her the knowledge,

[16:38] all the goodwill and work she's

[16:40] done in the city of San Diego

[16:40] since 1958.

[16:41] My mother was a young girl

[16:47] living in Louisiana and what a

[16:47] big dream she's always tell us

[16:48] when we were younger But

[16:49] the big dream she had about a

[16:53] bit of excuse me a big city

[16:54] with water surrounding it And

[16:58] that's what we have to American

[16:58] finest city San Diego,

[17:03] California Here she had seven

[17:04] She brought in her four kids

[17:04] out with her and the three that

[17:09] came later to San Diego and I

[17:09] want to let everyone know not

[17:10] only was she a great mother to

[17:15] us but a great teacher and a

[17:15] great pastor and she holds

[17:16] the title of a pastor.

[17:21] As a young girl she always

[17:22] wanted to help.

[17:23] She submit herself to GOD at a

[17:27] very, very early age And in

[17:28] doing so she left behind her

[17:28] career.

[17:29] She had a career with the city

[17:33] of Diego.

[17:34] She was a real estate agent.

[17:35] She is now full time and always

[17:39] has been a pastor.

[17:40] My mother unselfishly gave her

[17:40] life to street ministry.

[17:45] She had a church, a normal

[17:46] life, had a church several

[17:46] churches in San Diego And doing

[17:51] so she not only served people

[17:52] but she served GOD and

[17:52] providing we have set we have

[17:57] homes for men and women.

[17:57] She also did street ministry

[18:02] with tents for Ocean View Park

[18:02] .

[18:03] She had revivals, she did

[18:03] church you name it.

[18:06] My mom was one of the first

[18:07] women as a pastor and

[18:08] recognized as a pastor in

[18:13] the city of San Diego In

[18:14] the community she held many

[18:14] meetings feeding the homeless

[18:19] all while sharing the good news

[18:19] of Jesus Christ Our Lord, thank

[18:20] you for all your celebrations.

[18:25] >> Her 90th birthday she turns

[18:25] 90.

[18:26] Mom, raise your hand.

[18:31] There she is right there with

[18:32] somebody I would like to teach

[18:33] you time.

[18:33] Okay.

[18:33] Thank you so much.

[18:37] Okay.

[18:37] >> Thank you.

[18:38] Sorry.

[18:38] We do have to be fair, but

[18:39] somebody as good as you did

[18:41] your time.

[18:42] >> We have no additional

[18:43] speakers here in council

[18:43] chambers going to those

[18:48] participating remotely.

[18:49] We have four speakers in

[18:49] the queue.

[18:50] Please note again that items 33

[18:54] and 39 were returned so no

[18:54] comments to be should be to

[18:55] those items.

[18:55] Hector if you can please on

[18:59] mute and let me know which item

[19:00] or items you wish to speak to

[19:06] The proclamation items Which

[19:06] one?

[19:10] I don't know which

[19:15] the proclamation is 130 of

[19:15] the item 33.

[19:15] Please proceed.

[19:16] You have one minute.

[19:20] So in the history of our city

[19:21] especially at the time it is

[19:22] now we have got to make more

[19:27] proclamations to other groups

[19:27] of people and knowledge their

[19:32] suffering and kind of wide open

[19:32] especially right now I proclaim

[19:33] we're going to be in for a long

[19:38] meeting the next couple of days

[19:38] and you guys might want to

[19:39] order in order some Uber for

[19:44] some food in and just keep

[19:44] the meeting going so everyone

[19:50] can talk and have a good day by

[19:50] Blair Wickman If you can please

[19:51] unmute and let me know which

[19:53] item or items you wish to speak

[19:58] to.

[19:59] I'm Blair Beekman.

[20:03] I want to speak on three items

[20:04] with you If you can please let

[20:08] me know which three items for

[20:08] the record.

[20:09] >> Yeah.

[20:12] Item 31.

[20:18] Item 36 and item five hundred.

[20:23] >> Please proceed.

[20:24] Thank you.

[20:24] You know, it's my understanding

[20:29] that the Brown Act if a meeting

[20:30] an item is not been spoken

[20:35] before in council or committee

[20:35] you have to allow public

[20:36] comment if you take it off.

[20:40] >> So just a real note that we

[20:41] can talk about at a later time

[20:42] about the Buddha Buddha

[20:47] birthday celebration in day.

[20:48] This is a day to consider all

[20:53] of our religions and here in

[20:54] San Diego and that all have a

[20:54] good standing Buddhist

[20:59] traditions have a good way to

[20:59] understand that concept and

[21:04] that all all religions can be

[21:04] decent and respectable.

[21:05] >> Good luck What we can work

[21:09] on in San Diego.

[21:10] I want to talk a lot more on

[21:10] this subject.

[21:11] I feel a lot of sorrow in

[21:15] what's happened and ways that

[21:15] we can come together as a

[21:16] community.

[21:17] Thank you for the words of a

[21:21] counselor present.

[21:22] Foster It's a time to really

[21:22] work together in our

[21:28] differences and find good

[21:29] results in our differences And

[21:29] I think we can do that.

[21:30] I think there's ways to do that

[21:33] in our efforts.

[21:34] >> There's two other items you

[21:39] have on s500 a Filipino

[21:44] American employee the city of

[21:45] San Diego Filipino-American

[21:49] Employee Association de I spoke

[21:50] yesterday I made I really tried

[21:54] hard to speak on issues

[21:55] yesterday and I was really it's

[22:01] not my intention to bring out

[22:02] the worst of ourselves if I am

[22:07] it is what the real purpose of

[22:08] work and how to bring out

[22:08] the best of ourselves and what

[22:09] we need to be looking for.

[22:13] I try to work in a way where

[22:13] conversations are not kind of

[22:14] the regular conversation you

[22:14] guys have.

[22:17] I feel that you have them

[22:18] personally and internally but

[22:19] they're not conversations that

[22:24] are allowed openly and I hope

[22:24] when I do that it's with

[22:25] the intent to to offer fair,

[22:30] decent conversation not to

[22:30] inflame and not to play gotcha.

[22:31] I really want to work towards

[22:36] constructive good answers in

[22:36] the future.

[22:37] >> So what the San Diego

[22:41] Filipino item again I hope you

[22:42] guys can consider what a pay

[22:46] cut to city workers can mean to

[22:47] the community I think they

[22:47] would be incredibly agree to do

[22:52] and ways to find to to address

[22:53] you know morale issues that

[22:56] we're having as as the San

[22:57] Diego community and good luck

[23:03] in considering that concept and

[23:03] finally to the mentioned morale

[23:04] I mentioned Emergency Medical

[23:09] Services Week important things

[23:09] again, Andrea.

[23:10] I mean it's had difficulties

[23:14] with emt and cpd.

[23:15] I hope this can be a time to

[23:15] really decently review best

[23:20] practices and discover together

[23:21] learn together you know their

[23:21] problems.

[23:25] We can correct our problems.

[23:25] >> Thank you.

[23:26] Thank you, Tony.

[23:31] If you can please unmute I can

[23:32] I mean for you and let me know

[23:36] which item or items you wish to

[23:36] speak to.

[23:37] >> Hey, good morning.

[23:38] Can you hear me?

[23:42] Yes, please proceed.

[23:43] >> Let me know which item or

[23:43] items I wish to speak to

[23:46] the declarations.

[23:47] >> The declaration is part of

[23:48] the consent.

[23:48] Yes.

[23:52] The item number.

[23:53] What was it?

[23:54] Which were the two that were

[23:54] excluded That can't be spoken

[23:55] to you right now?

[24:02] Items 33 and 39 339 okay I will

[24:05] speak to item 31 please.

[24:06] Please proceed to You'll have

[24:06] one minute.

[24:10] Thank you.

[24:11] Hey, good morning, counsel.

[24:16] Just just wanted to say thank

[24:16] you.

[24:17] >> I know it's going to be a

[24:21] long day to day and yeah, I

[24:22] wanted to call in to support

[24:23] what Blaire Beekman said.

[24:27] I agree with what he was

[24:27] saying.

[24:28] I'm not sure I don't have much

[24:29] to say about this proclamation

[24:32] so I just wanted to say good

[24:37] morning and wanted to say look

[24:38] for looking forward to today.

[24:38] >> Thank you.

[24:39] Thank you.

[24:42] And our final speaker is 8700.

[24:43] The five minute timer has also

[24:43] concluded so no additional

[24:48] speakers will be taken 8700 If

[24:49] you can please email and let me

[24:52] know which item or items you

[24:53] wish to speak to.

[24:53] Yes, thank you.

[24:54] City Clerk I will be speaking

[24:58] to all of them.

[24:59] >> Please have three minutes.

[25:03] Please proceed.

[25:03] Good morning everyone and my

[25:04] condolences to all.

[25:08] And the way I'm going to

[25:08] proceed with this I hope it

[25:09] helps a little bit.

[25:10] Please forgive me if I

[25:13] mispronounce anything and I

[25:18] won't say the numbers but you

[25:19] know what they are National

[25:19] Public Works Week.

[25:24] Thank you for making this a

[25:30] better world for I hope I can

[25:35] do this and just say thank you

[25:40] for making this a better world

[25:40] .

[25:41] Torrie Wilson Thank you for

[25:44] making this a better world

[25:45] Garden Catering Thank you for

[25:51] making this a better World

[25:51] County Day.

[25:55] Thank you for making this a

[25:56] better world.

[25:56] Emergency Medical services for

[25:57] inmates.

[26:01] Thank you for making this a

[26:02] better world.

[26:06] Amy Taylor Martinez, thank you

[26:07] so much for making this a

[26:11] better world for Antibodies

[26:12] Day.

[26:12] Thank you for making this a

[26:16] better world.

[26:22] Filipino American employees

[26:23] thank you for making us a

[26:23] better world.

[26:26] To region three to Bueno Amino.

[26:30] Stay.

[26:31] Thank you for making this a

[26:32] better world.

[26:37] Billy Joel.

[26:37] Yeah.

[26:41] I'm not sure I got that right.

[26:41] Thank you for making this a

[26:42] better world.

[26:46] And to everybody else who works

[26:47] to make this a better world and

[26:48] there's so many people in

[26:51] the world.

[26:52] Thank you so much.

[26:53] It's a difficult day in a way

[26:57] It was difficult yesterday and

[26:58] I just assemble and get ready.

[27:01] Thank you.

[27:06] >> Does that conclude your

[27:07] comment?

[27:07] Yes.

[27:07] I'm sorry.

[27:08] Thank you.

[27:12] That does include public

[27:13] comment on the proclamations.

[27:13] >> All right.

[27:14] Thank you, city clerk.

[27:16] And with that I'll turn it over

[27:17] to my council colleagues for

[27:18] any questions and comments.

[27:19] Entertain a motion and we'll

[27:21] start with council member

[27:22] Moreno.

[27:22] >> Wonderful.

[27:22] Thank you.

[27:25] I have comments on item number

[27:26] 37 which is Amy Kremer Martinez

[27:29] And I would ask her to please

[27:34] come up to the podium.

[27:39] Thank you.

[27:40] Come right here.

[27:41] In honor of teachers

[27:45] appreciation Week we recognize

[27:46] an educator whose leadership

[27:50] has transformed Southwest High

[27:50] School into a place where

[27:51] students feel seen, supported

[27:52] and inspired.

[27:56] Last year Southwest High School

[27:57] celebrated its 50th anniversary

[28:00] and Mosquera Martinez has shown

[28:01] unwavering commitment to young

[28:05] people in District eight

[28:06] ensuring that every student has

[28:07] access to opportunities that

[28:10] help them thrive.

[28:11] As a graduate of Bonita Vista

[28:12] High School Southwestern

[28:12] College.

[28:16] Cfa.

[28:16] Fullerton National University.

[28:17] And Point Loma Nazarene

[28:21] University MISS Martinez

[28:22] embodies the strength and

[28:22] promise of the South Bay

[28:26] Education community.

[28:27] Since 2011 MS. Claire Martinez

[28:31] has served the Sweetwater Union

[28:32] High School District as a

[28:33] teacher and administrator

[28:37] supporting her heart into

[28:37] the community that raised her

[28:38] through assemblies athletic

[28:42] support, visual and performing

[28:43] arts programs and student

[28:43] engagement.

[28:47] MS..

[28:47] Martinez has strengthened

[28:48] campus pride and created a

[28:52] culture of belonging.

[28:52] MS. Claire Martinez Inclusive

[28:56] programing an equitable system

[28:57] ensures that every student from

[28:58] every background has a chance

[29:02] to participate lead and shine.

[29:02] She has forged meaningful,

[29:06] meaningful connections with

[29:07] families, staff and community

[29:12] organizations reminding us that

[29:13] schools thrive when communities

[29:13] come together.

[29:17] Now MS..

[29:17] Clara martinez has attended

[29:18] National Night Out at Robert

[29:21] Edgar Park where Southwest high

[29:22] school students consistently

[29:23] showcase a variety of

[29:26] performances.

[29:27] The event is recognized as

[29:27] the largest attended National

[29:32] Night Out celebration in San

[29:32] Diego County.

[29:33] Now as a first generation

[29:37] college student, MS. Claire

[29:38] Martinez has shown students

[29:38] what is possible when

[29:42] determination meets opportunity

[29:42] .

[29:42] Inspiring them to break

[29:43] barriers on their own.

[29:47] She is joined today with her

[29:48] loving husband Nick Martinez,

[29:52] mother and father and also

[29:52] Southwest High School asb

[29:53] PRESIDENT.

[29:57] They matter but there are no

[29:58] future as be PRESIDENT Zoe

[30:01] Garcia and future sb Attorney

[30:06] General Admi Gonzalez.

[30:07] I think yet another

[30:12] exemplification of how she

[30:12] brings and uplifts students.

[30:13] So MS. Claire Martinez you

[30:16] represent the very best of our

[30:16] educators those who change

[30:17] lives not with grand gestures

[30:21] but with daily acts of care,

[30:22] advocacy and belief in their

[30:26] students those who show up with

[30:27] heart, who lift students when

[30:28] they doubt themselves and who

[30:31] quietly shape the future for

[30:32] one young person at a time.

[30:33] So for those reasons and many

[30:36] more the city of San Diego

[30:41] proudly proclaims MAY 19th,

[30:41] 2026 as Amy Quiere martinez

[30:42] Day.

[30:50] >> Thank you.

[30:50] >> I'm ceding her my time.

[30:54] Council PRESIDENT.

[30:55] >> Thank you.

[30:55] If that's okay I'd like to

[30:56] welcome my students to come

[30:59] over.

[30:59] They'd like to say something.

[31:03] I cannot do this work if it

[31:04] wasn't for the support of my

[31:07] family at home and my family at

[31:08] work.

[31:09] So I'd like for them to say a

[31:09] few words because this this

[31:24] really is because of them.

[31:30] >> Hello everyone.

[31:31] My name is Zoe Garcia.

[31:31] I currently serve as a

[31:32] Southwest.

[31:35] Hi attorney General and I was

[31:36] recently elected as the future

[31:39] as your PRESIDENT For the 2026

[31:39] 2027 school year.

[31:40] It is a privilege to be here

[31:44] today recognizing MISS Your

[31:45] Martinez for her dedication and

[31:46] hard work as the assistant

[31:51] principal student activities

[31:51] and our acp advisor MISS

[31:52] Martinez always goes above and

[31:54] beyond for our school and

[31:54] students.

[31:55] Since joining us b as a

[31:55] freshman she has been nothing

[31:58] but kind, supportive and

[31:59] encouraging throughout

[31:59] the years She has become

[32:03] someone I look up to and turn

[32:04] to for guidance.

[32:04] Her passion for her work and

[32:05] the case she shows to every

[32:08] student truly makes her a role

[32:08] model.

[32:09] I can confidently say that she

[32:12] has helped shape me into

[32:13] the leader and person I am

[32:13] today and I will always be

[32:17] grateful for her support.

[32:18] MS. Martinez truly deserves

[32:18] this recognition for

[32:21] the positive impact she has

[32:22] made on so many lives.

[32:23] Congratulations MS. Martinez

[32:23] and thank you for everything

[32:26] you do and thank you all for

[32:27] your attention.

[32:31] >> Thank you.

[32:37] >> Good morning everyone.

[32:39] I am the L.A. Create 50th proud

[32:40] asu PRESIDENT At fault with

[32:40] high school.

[32:44] Honestly being PRESIDENT I

[32:44] would have not gotten to that

[32:45] position without the support

[32:49] And MISS Martinez believing in

[32:50] me and encouraging me to take

[32:50] on new positions and new roles.

[32:54] Challenging myself on a daily

[32:55] basis because she saw potential

[32:58] I didn't see myself.

[32:59] I have I've had the honor to

[33:04] work with her all my four years

[33:04] since I started in.

[33:07] It's been my freshman year to

[33:08] almost leaving.

[33:09] I'm going to MISS Her so much

[33:09] but I know she will continue to

[33:12] push me beyond graduating

[33:13] Southwest High School.

[33:17] She's been a role model and

[33:18] she's been one of the key

[33:19] people that will continue to

[33:22] motivate me and from winning

[33:26] the laurels for leaders and

[33:27] Community Service project I

[33:28] knew she was a big part of

[33:28] that.

[33:32] She made a huge impact in that

[33:33] project and overall she's just

[33:34] been like a second one to me at

[33:37] school and now I can always run

[33:37] to her or tell her anything.

[33:41] Honestly.

[33:42] But she's been a great model,

[33:43] great role model And this

[33:46] recognition is beyond deserved.

[33:55] >> So thank you guys.

[33:56] >> Thank you.

[33:56] And without without Council

[33:57] PRESIDENT I'm happy to make a

[34:00] motion to move proclamations.

[34:00] >> Thank you.

[34:01] Thank you.

[34:01] Council members We have a

[34:07] motion by Council Memorandum.

[34:07] >> We'll go next to

[34:08] Councilmember Foster.

[34:12] Yes, thank you, Council

[34:12] PRESIDENT.

[34:13] And I'm going to try to keep my

[34:16] comments brief.

[34:21] Just congratulations to all of

[34:21] the organizations and

[34:25] individuals receiving

[34:26] the proclamation today.

[34:31] But I want to say a few words

[34:34] on item as 502 Billy Joe to

[34:39] Marcia Spears Day as we are

[34:43] here to celebrate Pastor Spears

[34:44] .

[34:44] As we approach your 90th

[34:48] birthday on the 21st, it is

[34:49] truly a blessing to recognize

[34:53] and celebrate you today.

[34:54] Your life has been grounded in

[34:58] faith service, family and love

[34:59] for community and so many

[35:03] people across the district for

[35:03] have been touched by your care,

[35:08] leadership and generosity over

[35:08] the years whether through

[35:09] ministry feeding families,

[35:13] mentoring young people or

[35:14] simply showing up for those in

[35:14] need.

[35:18] You have poured into this

[35:18] community for decades and I

[35:21] have to say 90 years young and

[35:22] still going strong is something

[35:26] we can all aspire to.

[35:27] On behalf of District four in

[35:31] the city of San Diego.

[35:31] Happy early birthday and thank

[35:35] you Thank you for all that you

[35:36] do and all that you have given

[35:37] not only to District four but

[35:40] to the city of San Diego.

[35:41] >> Thank you so much And yes

[35:48] indeed I just want to read one

[35:53] line from the proclamation as

[35:57] we are in this time.

[35:58] I just think for me personally

[36:02] family is just so, so important

[36:07] and hidden in the proclamation

[36:08] It reads As a devoted mother of

[36:12] seven grandmother of 19 and

[36:16] great grandmother of 26 Pastor

[36:20] Spears has built a lasting

[36:21] legacy grounded in love

[36:25] guidance and generational

[36:31] impact that truly is a blessing

[36:36] and GOD is good and thank you.

[36:37] >> Thank you for everything

[36:37] that you have done for the city

[36:40] of San Diego.

[36:45] And with that council PRESIDENT

[36:46] I do have some time remaining

[36:46] on the lights.

[36:48] >> I will second

[36:49] the proclamations but I would

[36:50] like to offer any time to any

[36:54] other family member that would

[36:55] like to come up and say a few

[37:07] words please.

[37:13] You.

[37:14] I really do.

[37:27] And then why don't Oh, we want

[37:33] to you know I want to thank you

[37:37] for all goes to GOD and of San

[37:41] Diego I don't mean they helped

[37:42] me all the way up to two

[37:43] different programs that were

[37:46] gifted to you.

[37:51] I really thank GOD and I pray

[37:56] full you politician after I

[37:57] thank you all for what you all

[38:04] have done and say Oh I am just

[38:05] so grateful that the Lord bless

[38:10] one of my children's pastor way

[38:10] about five years ago.

[38:14] GOD's been good to me, be good

[38:15] to my children and I just thank

[38:16] GOD for the youth program.

[38:20] Everything helped me and I'm in

[38:21] tears.

[38:21] I thought about how I had put

[38:24] their age up this was they

[38:25] supposed to be 50 Their youth

[38:29] program brought a lot of help

[38:33] to this city in San Diego in

[38:33] the southeast area.

[38:34] I wish they would get it back.

[38:38] We would have so many people on

[38:39] the street, young people if we

[38:42] could get that program back So

[38:43] I don't know if it can be done

[38:44] but I thank GOD But I you can

[38:50] do it if you put your trust in

[38:51] GOD sometime I feel that they

[38:52] had it I do it Lord seven years

[38:53] and not all the way up I

[38:54] received about six months I

[38:56] sent the checks back to them

[38:57] and told them I would do for

[38:58] myself And I thank GOD for

[39:01] the city of San Diego because

[39:02] you all have truly been good to

[39:05] my family and my children's.

[39:06] >> Thank you so much.

[39:10] Union and thank you.

[39:15] Thank you so much and MAY GOD

[39:16] continue to bless you with his

[39:19] love, with his grace and with

[39:20] good health.

[39:21] Thank you Counsel Present That

[39:25] concludes my comments.

[39:25] All right.

[39:26] Thank you.

[39:26] So we have a motion by council

[39:27] member Moreno, the second by

[39:29] Councilmember Foster to move

[39:29] The proclamations will go next

[39:30] to council member Campbell

[39:34] Thank you council PRESIDENT And

[39:35] thank you and congratulations

[39:39] to everyone receiving

[39:39] proclamations today I will

[39:44] speak on three very briefly 32

[39:48] 3436 and I'd like to start on

[39:48] behalf of my colleague council

[39:49] member Von Wilpert who couldn't

[39:53] be here today but who like to

[39:58] give a proclamation in honor of

[40:02] our Teatro Catering Company.

[40:03] She asked me to share her

[40:03] congratulations on this

[40:07] proclamation Recognizing Auntie

[40:11] Arturo Catering Day for more

[40:11] than two decades Arteta has

[40:12] been an important part of San

[40:15] Diego's small business

[40:16] community and a place that has

[40:17] brought people together through

[40:22] great food.

[40:22] Councilmember Von Wolford has

[40:23] been at lta through many times

[40:25] over the years and wanted to

[40:26] share that The food is always

[40:27] incredible especially the baked

[40:30] goods.

[40:31] Auntie Arturo has created a

[40:31] welcoming space in the heart of

[40:35] downtown in San Diego where

[40:35] people can enjoy quality food

[40:40] and European inspired cuisine.

[40:41] Nancy Daniels leadership and

[40:41] commitment to the community

[40:45] have helped make our Teatro

[40:46] such a long time Local favorite

[40:49] Congratulations on 22 years of

[40:49] service to the San Diego

[40:54] community and best wishes for

[40:55] continued for continued success

[40:59] in the many years ahead And I

[41:00] believe that they Would you

[41:04] please wave There you are.

[41:05] >> Yes, I knew you were here.

[41:13] Thank you And thank you on

[41:14] behalf of Council Member one

[41:17] Open And I would also like to

[41:18] make some remarks today for DR.

[41:19] Troy Wilson who I believe MAY

[41:23] also be here DR. Wilson or his

[41:23] family.

[41:28] DR. Wilson received the 2026

[41:32] Dwayne Roth Achievement Award

[41:32] for his leadership in

[41:33] developing developing a

[41:37] medication a new medication to

[41:38] treat cancer, his

[41:39] groundbreaking work to advance

[41:39] the treatment of certain

[41:43] aggressive types of leukemia

[41:43] will change the lives of many

[41:47] patients for years to come and

[41:48] give them many years of good

[41:48] living.

[41:51] As a family physician I can

[41:52] tell you firsthand how

[41:53] important it is to constantly

[41:56] be developing new innovative

[41:57] treatments so that we can help

[42:01] improve the lives of our

[42:02] patients.

[42:02] So congratulations to DR.

[42:06] Wilson on receiving this award

[42:07] and I thank him for all his

[42:11] Richard's research and

[42:12] contributions to the field of

[42:12] cancer treatment.

[42:16] My last remarks will be for

[42:17] item 36 Emergency Medical

[42:21] Services Week proc.

[42:22] I want to thank the emerging

[42:26] Emergency Medical Services for

[42:31] all that they do and say how

[42:32] much I appreciate this work

[42:32] which is observed across

[42:36] America to honor our first

[42:36] responders and our emergency

[42:40] medicine providers.

[42:41] Emergency medical service

[42:45] providers are EMTs, paramedics

[42:45] ,also firefighters,

[42:46] dispatchers, lifeguards and

[42:50] police department personnel.

[42:51] First responders go through

[42:51] many hours of training so they

[42:55] can administer care to

[42:55] residents in emergency

[42:56] situations which often makes

[43:00] the difference between life and

[43:00] death.

[43:01] And I want to thank our

[43:02] wonderful first responders for

[43:05] all that they do to keep San

[43:06] Diegans safe every single day.

[43:10] And thank you, council

[43:10] PRESIDENT.

[43:11] >> All right.

[43:11] Thank you, Council member

[43:19] Campbell Go and council member

[43:19] whispered Thank you very much

[43:20] Council PRESIDENT So very

[43:24] wonderful proclamation today

[43:24] and organizations and

[43:25] individuals being recognized.

[43:28] Congratulations to everybody

[43:29] being honored I have Cubbage in

[43:33] relation to sub including sub

[43:34] specifically district three it

[43:38] is my order to break forward a

[43:39] proclamation recognizing

[43:40] the sea fog temple in

[43:43] University Heights and

[43:44] celebrating Buddha's birthday

[43:44] on MAY 24th.

[43:48] This is at important cultural

[43:49] and religious observance for

[43:49] many members of San Diego's

[43:53] Buddhist community and I want

[43:53] to thank the Chief Temple for

[43:54] the role that it plays in

[43:54] fostering compassion

[43:58] mindfulness service and

[43:58] community connection here in

[44:01] District three and around

[44:02] the city of San Diego.

[44:03] I would also like to extend a

[44:07] special thank you to

[44:07] Superintendent Be outside for

[44:08] being here with us today.

[44:10] I would like to welcome

[44:11] the superintendent up to say a

[44:20] few words.

[44:25] Good morning Council PRESIDENT

[44:26] And Honorable Council members

[44:31] on behalf of Shivani Temple and

[44:31] the Greater Buddhist Community

[44:32] of San Diego we sincerely thank

[44:36] the City of San Diego for this

[44:36] proclamation.

[44:37] Recognizing MAY 24th as

[44:40] the Buddha's birthday

[44:40] celebration day This

[44:41] recognition carries deep

[44:45] meaning for us because Buddha

[44:46] spread they also known

[44:50] internationally as we thank is

[44:50] a celebration shared by

[44:54] Buddhists throughout the world

[44:54] .

[44:55] In 1999 the United Nations

[44:59] officially recognized Vesak as

[45:00] an international observation

[45:04] acknowledging Buddha's message

[45:04] of peace, compassion, wisdom

[45:09] and harmony for humanity.

[45:10] More than seven decades ago our

[45:14] founder Durban Master Xing Yang

[45:14] began promoting public Buddha's

[45:19] birthday celebrations across

[45:19] the communities in Taiwan.

[45:23] He believed that true kindness,

[45:24] mutual respect and

[45:25] understanding the society could

[45:28] become more peaceful and

[45:29] harmonious.

[45:33] Today that message fills

[45:34] especially important as the sad

[45:35] happening affecting the Islamic

[45:39] center of San Diego Yesterday

[45:39] we are reminded that our

[45:43] communities must continue

[45:44] standing together with

[45:45] compassion, friendship and

[45:48] mutual respect.

[45:49] Moments like this remind us

[45:53] that regardless of our

[45:54] different faith or backgrounds

[45:57] we are all interconnected as

[45:58] one big family.

[45:59] This proclamation is not only

[46:02] an honor for Shifang Temple it

[46:03] is also a recognition of

[46:07] contributions of the entire

[46:07] Buddhist community and all of

[46:11] those who work together to

[46:12] foster compassion, mindfulness

[46:13] service and peace in our

[46:17] society.

[46:17] >> Buddha's birthday is truly a

[46:18] celebration for everyone

[46:22] regardless of background or

[46:23] faith tradition because

[46:26] the values we celebrate are

[46:27] universal peace, gratitude,

[46:32] compassion and a consistence.

[46:33] We will only invite everyone to

[46:37] join us on MAY 24th Buddha's

[46:38] Birthday and Family Festival as

[46:41] we celebrate together in a

[46:42] spirit of harmony and

[46:42] friendship.

[46:46] Thank you Superintendent.

[46:47] >> Thank you for those words.

[46:51] Very well said.

[46:56] >> Today I am also pleased to

[46:57] join my colleagues in ordering

[46:57] the highly recognized

[47:01] restaurant Kelly and proclaim

[47:02] JUNE 4th as Kelly Day in

[47:03] the city of San Diego.

[47:07] Over the past five years chef

[47:07] Travis Ricard and Kelly have

[47:10] helped to establish say, Diego

[47:11] is a nationally recognized

[47:11] culinary destination Through an

[47:15] extraordinary commitment to

[47:16] hospitality, creativity and

[47:16] excellence.

[47:17] Beyond the restaurant itself,

[47:20] Kelly has made a meaningful

[47:21] impact on our local community

[47:21] by supporting local farmers and

[47:25] fishers and producers

[47:26] contributing to the East

[47:26] Village economy and helping to

[47:27] better the next generation of

[47:30] hospitality professionals here

[47:31] in San Diego.

[47:31] And I also want to recognize

[47:32] the restaurant's commitment to

[47:35] giving back including its

[47:35] partnership with feeding say

[47:36] Diego.

[47:40] JUNE 4th also carries a deep

[47:40] personal significance for

[47:41] Travis and his family as it

[47:44] honors the life and memory of

[47:44] his brother.

[47:45] I think it is particularly

[47:49] meaningful that they have

[47:50] chosen to transform a day

[47:51] rooted loss in the world that

[47:54] is centered on generosity and

[47:54] purpose of family and

[47:55] community.

[47:56] And I would like to thank Chef

[47:58] Swicord at Barnes Ricard,

[47:59] the owners of Kelly and their

[48:00] staff for everything that they

[48:04] have contributed to San Diego.

[48:04] And I would like to invite Mia

[48:05] and Travis to come forward at

[48:06] this time and share a few words

[48:20] with us.

[48:21] >> Thank you so much for this

[48:22] recognition and this

[48:25] proclamation.

[48:26] As a born and raised San Diego

[48:30] kid, it's a lot for me to stand

[48:31] up here today and feel this

[48:35] emotion.

[48:35] But I traveled all over

[48:36] the world cooking to learn how

[48:39] to be the very best chef I can

[48:40] be and be the best

[48:41] restauranteur I could be.

[48:41] And when I moved home after

[48:45] doing that I really felt a

[48:45] strong responsibility to be

[48:49] more than a chef and more than

[48:50] a restauranteur and have a true

[48:50] impact on my hometown.

[48:54] And I think that outside of

[48:55] having just a great restaurant

[49:00] it's been a true honor to have

[49:04] that ability and to really

[49:09] focus our energy and on giving

[49:09] back to the community.

[49:10] Just recently we've been able

[49:14] to open up a school pantry in

[49:15] our in our neighborhood in Bio

[49:15] Logan.

[49:18] And I can't tell you a more

[49:19] meaningful thing I've ever done

[49:23] in my life So to get this

[49:23] recognition today it means a

[49:24] lot to us And thank you so

[49:24] much.

[49:28] >> Thank you very much, Travis.

[49:28] Thank you.

[49:29] Be a congratulations.

[49:29] Thank you for being here this

[49:30] morning.

[49:34] Thank you.

[49:40] >> I am also pleased to joined

[49:40] by colleague culture Barbara

[49:41] Campbell and Councilmember Bart

[49:41] Wilpert.

[49:44] It recognizes the El Teatro

[49:45] Catering As you heard for over

[49:48] 22 years it has been a staple

[49:49] of our civic center providing

[49:50] city employees and theatergoers

[49:54] and visitors with great service

[49:54] and a wide variety of tasty

[49:55] foods and drinks.

[49:59] So congratulations to El

[50:00] Cerrito and 22 years as

[50:04] Councilmember Kimball pointed

[50:04] out, this is also Emergency

[50:05] Medical Services Week and I am

[50:09] delighted to join my colleagues

[50:09] in bringing forward

[50:10] the proclamation recognizing

[50:13] ems Week.

[50:13] Emergency responders have

[50:14] incredible courage and

[50:14] strength.

[50:18] They are there for every member

[50:19] of our community.

[50:19] But the call comes in for help

[50:22] no matter the circumstances

[50:23] They are a lifeline for people

[50:24] facing life threatening

[50:24] injuries or illness.

[50:27] Their ability to quickly

[50:28] perform their duties could

[50:29] absolutely be the difference.

[50:29] As we all know between life and

[50:32] death.

[50:33] I'd like to recognize all of

[50:34] our emergency responders across

[50:34] our city for their outstanding

[50:37] work to save countless lives

[50:38] many times putting themselves

[50:42] in the way of danger.

[50:43] And I would like to invite

[50:43] first responder Carlos Valdes.

[50:47] Acosta to come up at this time

[51:01] and please say a few words.

[51:01] >> Good morning City Council.

[51:02] On behalf of American Medical

[51:03] Response, I'm truly grateful

[51:07] for receiving this and a very

[51:08] knowledge ems week.

[51:08] I take a second to have my team

[51:17] stand up for a second.

[51:18] >> I want to take a moment to

[51:23] highlight what it takes to make

[51:23] ems great.

[51:24] We have EMTs, paramedics,

[51:27] dispatchers, nurses,

[51:28] dispatchers, servers and all

[51:29] our support staff that work

[51:33] together to make this you know,

[51:33] put a great service in the city

[51:34] along with other partners that

[51:35] we collaborate with City Fire

[51:40] or City Communication Center.

[51:41] It truly is a team sport and it

[51:42] really takes all of us to show

[51:43] up and really serve this

[51:45] community every single day.

[51:46] We're truly grateful and proud

[51:47] to serve the city of San Diego

[51:50] and we're extremely humble for

[51:51] everyone here to put the trust

[51:52] in us to provide that care.

[51:56] Thank you for recognizing ems

[51:56] Week and thank you for

[51:57] the people behind it.

[51:57] >> Thank you.

[51:58] Thank you very much, Carlos.

[51:59] Thank you to all of you for

[52:04] your service to our city.

[52:08] >> I'm pleased to join Bayer

[52:09] Gloria and councilmembers Lee

[52:09] played Isla Rivera in

[52:12] proclaiming City of Santiago

[52:13] Filipino American Employees

[52:17] Association Day As we celebrate

[52:18] the important contributions of

[52:18] the city of San Diego, Filipino

[52:22] American employees Association,

[52:23] Filipino Americans continue to

[52:23] play a vital role in

[52:27] strengthening say Diego through

[52:28] public service and community

[52:28] leadership, health care,

[52:32] education and so many other

[52:32] fields.

[52:33] And I want to thank

[52:34] the association's leadership

[52:34] and members for their

[52:37] dedication and continued

[52:38] commitment to serving

[52:38] the people of San Diego.

[52:43] And finally I will join in

[52:44] the thanks to Rita Cabello,

[52:46] comedian Ed Roos for 30 years

[52:46] of dedication to our city.

[52:47] Congratulations.

[52:50] For decades you served our city

[52:51] and we are deeply grateful for

[52:51] your service.

[52:52] Thank you and thank you.

[52:55] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[52:56] Council member Whitburn I will

[53:00] now go to Council PRESIDENT Pro

[53:01] Tem Lee I think as PRESIDENT

[53:02] And I want to thank my

[53:03] colleagues for the number of

[53:05] recognitions today including to

[53:06] everyone in ems.

[53:11] Thank you for being here too

[53:11] Kelly I've actually had a

[53:12] chance to visit once with my

[53:15] friends from Kingfisher and it

[53:16] was very enjoyable and

[53:16] congratulations to you and all

[53:20] your work in the community.

[53:21] I'm going to speak specifically

[53:22] to a couple of proclamations

[53:25] starting with item 31 where I

[53:25] want to thank Council member

[53:29] Whitburn for having us join him

[53:30] in proclaiming MAY 24th 2026 as

[53:33] Shipping Temple and Buddha's

[53:34] Birthday Celebration day in

[53:34] the City.

[53:35] I think you've already heard a

[53:36] little bit about them what they

[53:39] do and I just want to thank you

[53:39] for your remarks especially in

[53:43] light of the incident yesterday

[53:44] at the Islamic Center of San

[53:44] Diego and especially and

[53:48] recognizing that when it comes

[53:48] to getting people together of

[53:49] all faiths and all cultures, I

[53:50] think there's one thing that we

[53:53] can share in common in terms of

[53:54] calling out hatred and violence

[53:57] and that was meaningful for you

[53:58] to share in your time up here

[54:02] for item 32 for Troy Wilson Day

[54:02] we actually originally had

[54:07] intended to have DR. Wilson and

[54:08] his team with us today and I

[54:08] just want to share that in

[54:11] light of yesterday's events

[54:12] that they did make a choice,

[54:13] you know not to attend this

[54:16] morning but I do still want to

[54:17] take this moment to join

[54:21] council PRESIDENT LaCava, my

[54:22] colleague Councilmember

[54:22] Campbell in proclaiming JUNE

[54:25] 11th, 2026 is Troy Wilson Day

[54:26] in the city of San Diego on

[54:26] JUNE 11th.

[54:30] DR. Wilson will be presented

[54:31] with the 2026 Dwayne Roth

[54:32] Achievement Award for his

[54:35] leadership in cancer drug

[54:36] development and his impact on

[54:36] cancer patients.

[54:37] The Dwayne Roth Achievement

[54:40] Award is presented to health

[54:41] care leaders whose focus is

[54:41] solely on patients by

[54:42] overcoming institutional and

[54:45] scientific challenges to bring

[54:46] forward new research that leads

[54:47] to revolutionary treatment

[54:49] methods and as PRESIDENT Ceo

[54:50] and CHAIRMAN Of the Board for

[54:51] Cure Oncology, DR. Wilson has

[54:55] been a pioneer in that field.

[54:55] He's proven to be an

[54:56] accomplished leader in biotech

[54:57] through the founding building

[54:59] and leading of innovative

[55:00] companies that deliver

[55:00] transformative therapies for

[55:01] patients benefit.

[55:04] And with more than 25 years of

[55:04] experience has delivered

[55:05] groundbreaking therapies that

[55:08] have resulted in life changing

[55:09] results for oncological

[55:09] patients.

[55:10] So we're certainly honored to

[55:13] celebrate his innovation and

[55:14] achievements and DR. Wilson's

[55:15] deep commitment to innovation

[55:19] and patients certainly make him

[55:19] worthy of that recognition.

[55:23] Thank you to you cc D.A. For

[55:24] recognizing him and we're

[55:28] honored to join them in that.

[55:28] And then finally for item 500,

[55:29] we're proud to recognize

[55:32] Philippine independence Day and

[55:33] to celebrate the lasting

[55:34] contributions of our Filipino

[55:37] American community, especially

[55:38] through the dedicated city

[55:38] employees who serve our

[55:42] residents every day.

[55:42] This proclamation celebrates

[55:43] the city of San Diego

[55:47] Filipino-American employees and

[55:48] they hold a fantastic cultural

[55:52] celebration every year

[55:52] surrounding the Independence

[55:53] Day.

[55:53] It's a great luncheon.

[55:57] Last year they had a city band

[55:57] that performed which was fun in

[56:02] its own right and in these

[56:02] moments I think we we are

[56:03] appreciative that we get to be

[56:06] a city that really values this

[56:06] sense of diversity within our

[56:07] city and the impact that

[56:11] Filipino employees have

[56:12] throughout the city of San

[56:12] Diego.

[56:13] So with that concludes my

[56:16] comments.

[56:17] Thank you.

[56:17] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[56:18] Thank you.

[56:18] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Not

[56:21] seeing anyone else in

[56:21] the lights.

[56:22] i'll offer a few concluding

[56:25] comments as well recognizing

[56:30] everybody who got a

[56:30] proclamation an individual a

[56:35] cause Um I congratulate and

[56:36] thinking of my colleagues for

[56:37] bringing these and highlighting

[56:40] what makes San Diego so special

[56:41] to emergency medical services.

[56:44] Thank you to the first

[56:45] responders and what you do

[56:45] every day.

[56:49] As was said unfortunately too

[56:50] often yesterday you run into

[56:50] the danger to serve those in

[56:55] their most vulnerable

[56:55] conditions.

[56:56] >> So we're so appreciative.

[56:59] As the only Italian up here,

[57:00] I'm a little embarrassed that I

[57:01] didn't get my name added to

[57:04] the proclamation.

[57:05] But I will honor you by saying

[57:05] you have the best and freshest

[57:08] cannoli in the city and that's

[57:09] a very high bar.

[57:13] >> So thank you for for that.

[57:17] And to the proclamations on

[57:18] item 30 excuse me going to do

[57:22] 32 First of Troy Wilson Day

[57:23] I'll join Council PRESIDENT Pro

[57:23] Tem Lee and council member

[57:26] Campbell in congratulating DR.

[57:27] Wilson on receiving the 2026

[57:31] Dwayne Roth Achievement Award

[57:32] for your remarkable research in

[57:32] the field of oncology, your

[57:36] research and contributions are

[57:36] nothing short of remarkable

[57:37] from being the founder of

[57:38] multiple cancer research

[57:40] companies to developing

[57:41] groundbreaking therapies and

[57:42] medication.

[57:42] DR. Wilson's work continues to

[57:46] advance technologies that help

[57:46] fight cancer and improve

[57:51] the lives of so very many.

[57:52] Thank you DR. Wilson for not

[57:52] only making San Diego a leader

[57:53] in biotechnology research but

[57:56] for advancing lifesaving

[57:56] research that is changing

[57:57] the future of cancer treatment

[58:01] in the field of oncology and

[58:06] for countless patients I am 30

[58:06] National Public Works Week

[58:10] today Invite my colleagues to

[58:11] proclaim this week MAY 17th

[58:11] through 23rd as National Public

[58:15] Works Week in the city of San

[58:16] Diego so that we can highlight

[58:16] the public works employees who

[58:20] help keep our city up and

[58:20] running from maintaining our

[58:21] roads and buildings to

[58:24] protecting our water systems.

[58:25] These are the people that every

[58:26] day ensure our city's quality

[58:29] of life and protect our public

[58:29] health and safety.

[58:30] Thank you to all the engineers

[58:33] maintenance workers, managers

[58:34] and public works employees who

[58:35] continue to make our city as

[58:38] safe as it can be.

[58:39] Your knowledge, expertise and

[58:40] public service do not go

[58:43] unnoticed by the people of San

[58:43] Diego.

[58:44] And with that I will invite our

[58:48] chief community services

[58:49] officer and city engineer Ron

[58:57] Yamin to make some remarks.

[58:58] >> Good morning.

[59:02] Council PRESIDENT Angela Carver

[59:03] and members of the City Council

[59:04] on behalf of the Public Works

[59:07] professionals across the city,

[59:08] thank you for this

[59:08] proclamation.

[59:09] Recognizing National Public

[59:12] Works Week and all our

[59:12] dedicated Public works

[59:17] employees this year's theme

[59:17] Advancing Quality of Life for

[59:21] All reflects the essential work

[59:22] been done across so many

[59:25] disciplines and departments

[59:26] from maintaining our streets,

[59:27] sidewalks and stormwater

[59:30] systems to delivering clean

[59:31] water and wastewater services,

[59:32] managing capital improvement

[59:36] Project protecting public

[59:36] spaces, supporting fleet and

[59:37] facilities operation and

[59:41] responding during emergencies

[59:41] and storms.

[59:42] Public policies Often

[59:46] the unseen work that keeps our

[59:47] city moving safely, reliably

[59:47] and efficiently.

[59:51] Everything go day behind every

[59:52] service As a team of

[59:55] hardworking professionals who

[59:56] are deeply committed to

[59:57] improving the daily lives of

[1:00:00] residents in every neighborhood

[1:00:01] even with aging infrastructure,

[1:00:02] growing service demands and

[1:00:06] limited resources, our

[1:00:07] employees continue to be to do

[1:00:11] the absolute most with what

[1:00:12] they have The resilience and

[1:00:15] dedication allow critical

[1:00:16] services and projects to keep

[1:00:19] moving forward often behind

[1:00:20] the scenes We are incredibly

[1:00:24] proud of our city employees and

[1:00:25] grateful for everything they do

[1:00:26] for our communities And thank

[1:00:29] you again for the recognition

[1:00:30] and for the continued

[1:00:30] partnership and support of

[1:00:34] the public works.

[1:00:35] Thank you Ron.

[1:00:36] The comments well stated.

[1:00:39] All right.

[1:00:40] With that we have a motion by

[1:00:41] Councilmember Marino and a

[1:00:42] second by council member

[1:00:42] Foster.

[1:00:47] Clerk Please call the roll.

[1:00:48] Please start your voting system

[1:00:49] I'm sorry your voting system

[1:00:54] Please cast your vote That

[1:00:59] passes unanimously 6 to 0 with

[1:01:00] Council member Eli Rivera,

[1:01:01] Councilmember Campo and

[1:01:01] Councilmember Von Wilpert

[1:01:02] absent.

[1:01:02] Thank you.

[1:01:03] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:01:04] >> All right.

[1:01:05] Thank you, City Clerk And with

[1:01:06] that we will take a brief pause

[1:01:09] for photos and we will start

[1:01:10] with item 31 which is to say

[1:01:14] find Temple and Buddha's

[1:01:15] birthday celebration day if you

[1:01:58] can come up

[1:02:04] , buddy.

[1:02:12] >> But yet one thing we're

[1:02:58] going to and Great Thank you

[1:03:07] so

[1:05:04] hard to have it

[1:07:04] and

[1:12:11] all right continuing on with

[1:12:16] this morning's business, we

[1:12:17] will now proceed with

[1:12:17] the approval of the consent

[1:12:21] items item 50 which was

[1:12:22] previously heard at the Budget

[1:12:25] Committee will be returned to

[1:12:26] staff again.

[1:12:26] Item 50 which was previously

[1:12:27] heard at the Budget Committee

[1:12:31] will be returned to staff.

[1:12:32] Are there any request to pull

[1:12:32] an item by my council

[1:12:36] colleagues?

[1:12:37] I'm not seeing any such

[1:12:37] request.

[1:12:38] Clerk Please proceed with

[1:12:41] public comment.

[1:12:42] Thank you.

[1:12:42] Council PRESIDENT Please don't

[1:12:43] you Speaker We'll have one

[1:12:45] minute per item per person If

[1:12:46] you would like to speak on

[1:12:47] three or more items you'll have

[1:12:47] a maximum of three minutes.

[1:12:50] The consent agenda includes

[1:12:54] items ten items 103 104 items

[1:12:55] 504 and s505 Item 50 was

[1:12:55] returned.

[1:12:59] We also received comments on

[1:13:00] items 101 012 in favor

[1:13:04] respectively b r e comment form

[1:13:05] which have been distributed to

[1:13:08] the Council.

[1:13:09] We have Brian Helmick here to

[1:13:12] speak on item 100.

[1:13:14] You'll have one minute.

[1:13:21] >> Please proceed And that's a

[1:13:27] set strict and he does that

[1:13:28] team Ed is not just a funding

[1:13:29] board but it's actually

[1:13:32] the embodiment of a community

[1:13:32] community that voted into it

[1:13:33] into existence and it's

[1:13:34] residents coming together to

[1:13:37] show pride in their shared

[1:13:38] neighborhood and San Diego team

[1:13:39] and fully supports this banner

[1:13:42] district and has approved

[1:13:43] related funding for a display

[1:13:44] celebrating Talmage Centennial

[1:13:47] year.

[1:13:47] Our theme Putting down roots

[1:13:48] since 1926 recognizes not only

[1:13:52] talent as founding but also all

[1:13:53] who have made this part of San

[1:13:53] Diego their home through

[1:13:57] the last 100 years Today and

[1:13:58] also going forward we hope

[1:14:01] the council will support

[1:14:02] the community in authorizing

[1:14:03] this district and the council

[1:14:06] members and staff will join

[1:14:07] residents at the annual Talmage

[1:14:08] Block party in OCTOBER as this

[1:14:11] part of San Diego steps forward

[1:14:11] into its next 100 years.

[1:14:16] Thank you.

[1:14:17] Thank you.

[1:14:17] Started the five minute timer

[1:14:18] going to those participating

[1:14:18] remotely.

[1:14:21] We have four speakers in

[1:14:21] the queue.

[1:14:22] Hector if you can please and

[1:14:22] mute and let me know which item

[1:14:23] or items you wish to speak to

[1:14:28] today.

[1:14:30] The 100 The 1o4.

[1:14:31] >> You'll have two minutes.

[1:14:35] Please proceed guys.

[1:14:36] Got to circumvent the mayor or

[1:14:40] our mayor is opening as dumb

[1:14:41] And now I'm talking about

[1:14:42] America's finest city.

[1:14:46] America's finest city would not

[1:14:50] be closing the libraries

[1:14:51] letting Mexico dump their on

[1:14:55] us for 20 years He needs to

[1:14:56] calm his jets down.

[1:15:00] He's known for the mayor who's

[1:15:01] charged to go to the park and

[1:15:01] park.

[1:15:06] How he put up with want to for

[1:15:10] 20 years Who did the street

[1:15:11] $150 million debacle on tv You

[1:15:16] need to tell him to shut up on

[1:15:20] the on white racism on cnn or

[1:15:20] white supremacy or something

[1:15:21] like that That's his argument

[1:15:25] Hate So do your job and tell

[1:15:29] the mayor to shut up man And

[1:15:30] this is not right What he's

[1:15:34] doing.

[1:15:35] I couldn't find the number

[1:15:39] there to the other So the mayor

[1:15:40] is way out of line and tell

[1:15:43] the chicks chicks with blue

[1:15:44] hair to cool their jets at

[1:15:49] the meetings, man And we got to

[1:15:53] do a proclamation for the Garza

[1:15:54] Strip The genocide Genocide at

[1:15:58] Gaza Strip Proclamation.

[1:15:59] We need to denounce that.

[1:15:59] So okay.

[1:16:03] Thanks a lot.

[1:16:03] Next is 8700 If you can please

[1:16:04] unmute and please let me know

[1:16:05] which item or items you wish to

[1:16:10] speak to.

[1:16:10] Thank you.

[1:16:14] I will be speaking on 1 or 2 1

[1:16:15] or 3 and 5 or 5.

[1:16:15] >> Thank you.

[1:16:19] Please proceed.

[1:16:19] Thank you.

[1:16:22] 1 or 2 oh first of all here are

[1:16:25] two grant items and one

[1:16:26] donation items.

[1:16:31] So thank you for all for

[1:16:31] helping us make this a better

[1:16:32] world.

[1:16:35] 1 or 2.

[1:16:39] Yes And thank you for $1.5

[1:16:40] million grant for general fund

[1:16:44] help for wild fire prevention.

[1:16:45] It's just a great item.

[1:16:49] So love so much to the fire

[1:16:54] rescue people and their entire

[1:16:54] department.

[1:16:58] 103 Yes to accept donations

[1:16:59] from the San Diego Parks

[1:17:11] Foundation for f y 25 totaling

[1:17:12] $1,875,500.

[1:17:12] That's a wonderful funding

[1:17:16] amount And also and a big thank

[1:17:21] you to Parks and Rec and for

[1:17:22] all of the employees there and

[1:17:23] for everything you do for our

[1:17:26] wonderful parks And thank you

[1:17:31] to the donors who just love you

[1:17:32] love you a lot and we just

[1:17:35] appreciate your support And

[1:17:36] the more help you can get us is

[1:17:40] really appreciate so much.

[1:17:41] 505 Yes to accepting

[1:17:45] the highway bridge program

[1:17:49] grant and agreement Santee

[1:17:50] Irrigation District.

[1:17:54] And I'll just conclude with

[1:17:55] saying love to the entire

[1:17:56] engineering and capital

[1:18:00] projects of people for

[1:18:00] everything they do for us and

[1:18:04] wasn't the proclamation timing

[1:18:09] at the beginning of the meeting

[1:18:10] just the most beautiful spot

[1:18:13] for it to be today?

[1:18:14] It was so helpful for me and

[1:18:18] thank you so very much and

[1:18:19] we'll have a beautiful day.

[1:18:19] Love to all.

[1:18:23] Thank you.

[1:18:24] Next is Blaire Beekman.

[1:18:25] If you can please unmute and

[1:18:25] let me know which item or items

[1:18:27] you wish to speak to.

[1:18:33] Hi Player Beekman.

[1:18:34] Hold on a second.

[1:18:35] I got to when I'm up here and

[1:18:38] find my okay where I'm starting

[1:18:41] from item s final four and then

[1:18:45] items 1 to 1 one on to one of

[1:18:45] three and that's it.

[1:18:46] Thank you.

[1:18:50] Please proceed.

[1:18:50] >> Yeah.

[1:18:54] Hi, I'm Claire Beekman.

[1:18:55] >> I have been in two of these

[1:18:56] mass shootings in the San Jose

[1:19:00] area in the past ten years and

[1:19:00] or have been around and, you

[1:19:04] know, attending council

[1:19:05] meetings and getting into

[1:19:06] the work we do as a community

[1:19:10] going on to these items in our

[1:19:11] consent calendar regular agenda

[1:19:14] it can be really helpful just

[1:19:15] to see it and feel it back to

[1:19:16] seeing again and what we do

[1:19:20] well and good Look up what we

[1:19:20] can be doing well today for

[1:19:24] the Sally Ordinance for fiscal

[1:19:24] year 2027.

[1:19:28] Again, like I said earlier,

[1:19:29] good luck to the rating

[1:19:34] decreases salary decrease idea

[1:19:34] And two I just wanted to

[1:19:38] quickly add whatever you can

[1:19:39] manage you know whatever sort

[1:19:43] of cut you can take I think

[1:19:44] would make an incredibly

[1:19:45] helpful and important statement

[1:19:48] to everyone of San Diego And I

[1:19:49] think it can be really small

[1:19:50] and actually accomplish a lot

[1:19:54] because we we have good ideals

[1:19:54] and working towards good

[1:19:58] intentions and that will open

[1:19:59] our minds up to better ways of

[1:20:00] thinking and better logic is

[1:20:03] what I'm hoping for.

[1:20:04] We're set with budget issues so

[1:20:05] good luck with that And to

[1:20:11] really consider it item 101 is

[1:20:16] budget items for funding for

[1:20:17] Montgomery Gibbs Field and

[1:20:21] Brownfield airports.

[1:20:22] How is the item going?

[1:20:23] There was supposed to be kind

[1:20:26] of a after the accident at

[1:20:27] the recent airport it was

[1:20:31] really noted that there is a

[1:20:31] lack of communication between

[1:20:32] the different airports and

[1:20:35] perhaps, you know, the one

[1:20:35] airport that I know there's

[1:20:36] basic problems and and

[1:20:39] maintenance issues.

[1:20:40] How is all that communication

[1:20:44] going and maintenance upkeep is

[1:20:45] better dialog being created,

[1:20:46] better openness good luck and

[1:20:49] good luck in that effort and

[1:20:50] work with item 102 is Wildlife

[1:20:54] Wildfire funding for the Lake

[1:20:55] Hodges in San Francisco Valley

[1:20:59] area And I think you've been

[1:21:04] doing some interesting work as

[1:21:05] a community local neighborhood

[1:21:05] with the fire issues in

[1:21:08] the summertime.

[1:21:09] It's been really interesting to

[1:21:10] see that over the past year

[1:21:14] keep up that good work and to

[1:21:14] mention the Dora you know don't

[1:21:15] be afraid to have conversations

[1:21:18] about fire issues and where

[1:21:19] they come from and what exactly

[1:21:22] and where they're coming from.

[1:21:23] We need to have those

[1:21:24] conversations and about whether

[1:21:27] we can't be afraid of those

[1:21:28] conversations and that they

[1:21:29] can't be open.

[1:21:29] They can be open.

[1:21:32] Let's find ways to make open

[1:21:33] and safe conversation.

[1:21:36] And finally with Windows three

[1:21:37] Parks Foundation issues, I

[1:21:37] think we're making important

[1:21:42] strides to understand even

[1:21:42] Councilperson Bowman are just

[1:21:43] asking is there a difference

[1:21:44] between Parks Foundation

[1:21:46] funding and money that's going

[1:21:47] to the general fund at this

[1:21:47] time?

[1:21:47] It can be okay if that's

[1:21:51] happening Let's just be clear

[1:21:51] with each other about it and

[1:21:52] your time has.

[1:21:52] >> Thank you for that.

[1:21:53] Thank you.

[1:21:55] We have two speakers in

[1:21:56] the queue and the five minute

[1:21:56] timer has concluded no

[1:21:57] additional speakers will be

[1:22:00] taken.

[1:22:00] Tony if you can please unmute

[1:22:01] after that is Kathryn.

[1:22:04] Tony please let me know which

[1:22:05] item or items you wish to speak

[1:22:09] to me Yes I would like to speak

[1:22:13] to item 103 I'd like to speak

[1:22:17] to item 1 or 2 and I would like

[1:22:18] to speak to item 1 or 1 please.

[1:22:18] >> Please proceed.

[1:22:21] You have three minutes.

[1:22:21] >> Thank you.

[1:22:22] These seem like some pretty

[1:22:26] slam dunk knock out of the park

[1:22:30] resolutions here.

[1:22:30] It seems like we would just be

[1:22:31] accepting grants which I can't.

[1:22:35] I can't think of any reason why

[1:22:35] we wouldn't want to accept that

[1:22:36] money.

[1:22:39] The California Natural

[1:22:40] Resources Agency is a is a

[1:22:44] wonderful program and I think

[1:22:45] that's a fantastic grant.

[1:22:48] I'd love to see us accept that

[1:22:48] 1.5 million to support

[1:22:49] the General Fund for Wildfire

[1:22:52] Prevention activities.

[1:22:53] And again, I just want to

[1:22:57] reiterate something that I

[1:22:58] mentioned last week in Council.

[1:22:59] I hope that we are looking into

[1:23:03] strategic and how the fire

[1:23:03] department can be utilizing

[1:23:04] citrus tech in more ways.

[1:23:07] I know that they're using it in

[1:23:08] North County already and I know

[1:23:12] that the fire chief is already

[1:23:12] starting to implement it in

[1:23:13] some of his practices.

[1:23:17] So hopefully we can get

[1:23:17] acquainted with that process

[1:23:18] here as well.

[1:23:22] And then moving on to item one

[1:23:27] of three, let's see it looks

[1:23:31] like that would be awesome to

[1:23:32] receive the those donations

[1:23:34] from this for the San Diego

[1:23:44] Parks Foundation Looks like we

[1:23:49] could possibly receive up to 2

[1:23:49] million from that grant I'm

[1:23:50] reading sorry I'm just reading

[1:23:53] agenda right now So yeah

[1:23:58] hopefully we can utilize that

[1:23:58] money you know for everything

[1:24:03] that it's needed for And yeah,

[1:24:03] that's all I wanted to comment

[1:24:04] on.

[1:24:04] >> Thank you and good morning.

[1:24:05] Thank you.

[1:24:07] Katherine Rounds, if you can

[1:24:08] please unmute and let me know

[1:24:09] which item or items you wish to

[1:24:12] speak to And yes if I could

[1:24:13] speak to item as final for

[1:24:18] salary ordinance and as five of

[1:24:21] five The bridge Sure You heard

[1:24:21] those two items?

[1:24:22] >> Yes, please.

[1:24:22] Thank you.

[1:24:23] You have two minutes.

[1:24:26] Please proceed.

[1:24:27] >> Okay.

[1:24:27] Forward the salary ordinance

[1:24:27] here.

[1:24:31] It looks like you you you know

[1:24:31] did you already approve your

[1:24:36] memorandum of understanding or

[1:24:36] did you not during closed

[1:24:37] session yesterday or the other

[1:24:41] time before where people said

[1:24:41] you actually signed something?

[1:24:45] Anyway, this report here that's

[1:24:46] about a month old it said, you

[1:24:50] know, at this time it didn't

[1:24:51] say exactly what the pending

[1:24:51] salary and wage impacts are on

[1:24:55] page two of your report.

[1:24:56] So exactly how much more in

[1:25:00] salary and wages are you

[1:25:00] expecting to bring in?

[1:25:05] You know, I don't know.

[1:25:05] I think this should actually be

[1:25:06] a discussion item where we

[1:25:09] could actually get a an

[1:25:09] analysis of this.

[1:25:14] But anyway, you know what I of

[1:25:15] course go back to what I think

[1:25:16] you guys should be doing is I

[1:25:19] think you should be firing all

[1:25:19] 300 of the nonunion

[1:25:24] unclassified employees who got

[1:25:25] double and triple their pay

[1:25:28] rates compared to their regular

[1:25:29] union counterparts doing

[1:25:33] the same work in the same job

[1:25:33] description.

[1:25:34] But because they're called

[1:25:35] middle managers and they're I

[1:25:38] would say friends of Todd's or

[1:25:39] friends of somebody who somehow

[1:25:43] they get to make more money

[1:25:44] than the regular union people

[1:25:48] in our I believe our our our

[1:25:48] budget problems or structural

[1:25:53] budget deficit could be solved

[1:25:53] in part by firing all these

[1:25:57] people and then hiring back as

[1:25:58] regular union workers And you

[1:25:59] could call them managers if you

[1:26:02] want to.

[1:26:03] You just can't you know, they

[1:26:07] just have to be not the middle

[1:26:07] managers who are nonunion who

[1:26:11] have no you know, labor

[1:26:12] protections at all.

[1:26:16] And then for the El Camino real

[1:26:17] Bridge to the Via Della Valley

[1:26:21] I look forward to actually

[1:26:22] reading all about it.

[1:26:23] I didn't know about this but it

[1:26:26] seems like that would be quite

[1:26:26] lovely.

[1:26:27] Thank you.

[1:26:28] And that concludes with a

[1:26:30] comment on the consent agenda.

[1:26:31] All right.

[1:26:31] Thank you City clerk With that

[1:26:35] will turn it over to my council

[1:26:36] colleagues for questions

[1:26:40] comments and entertain a motion

[1:26:41] and we'll start with Council

[1:26:42] member Moreno Thank you.

[1:26:45] >> I have comments on item 1 or

[1:26:46] 3 the acceptance of donations

[1:26:49] from the San Diego Park

[1:26:50] Foundation during fiscal year

[1:26:50] 2025.

[1:26:51] First and foremost I want to

[1:26:55] thank the San Diego Parks

[1:26:56] Foundation for this donation.

[1:26:56] I am pleased to see that

[1:27:00] several projects in my district

[1:27:01] receive funding through this

[1:27:05] item Enfield That laser

[1:27:06] leveling and soil improvements

[1:27:06] has been a longstanding request

[1:27:11] by the board of the Lucky Wild

[1:27:11] Little League Board at our

[1:27:14] monthly community Rec group

[1:27:15] meetings and I'm pleased to see

[1:27:16] their commitment to the park

[1:27:16] and its players being

[1:27:20] recognized And through these

[1:27:20] improvements these upgrades

[1:27:21] directly support

[1:27:24] the longstanding tradition of

[1:27:25] baseball practice in District

[1:27:26] eight and also ensures that

[1:27:29] every player has a field worthy

[1:27:30] of their hard work and passion

[1:27:34] for the game.

[1:27:34] The South Crest lighting

[1:27:35] project illuminates

[1:27:36] the pedestrian path to ensure

[1:27:39] that residents can utilize

[1:27:39] the park in the evening and

[1:27:40] increase their feeling of

[1:27:43] safety.

[1:27:44] Additionally, the illumination

[1:27:45] allows park and rec staff with

[1:27:48] the opportunity to broaden

[1:27:49] their offerings by hosting

[1:27:53] programing like soccer in

[1:27:53] the evening hours.

[1:27:54] Now with the San Isidro Larson

[1:27:56] Field Community Center being

[1:27:57] one of the most visited rec

[1:27:58] centers in San Ysidro,

[1:28:02] the installation of Retract

[1:28:02] retractable back board

[1:28:06] standards modernize

[1:28:07] the facility that is home to

[1:28:08] many families and helps support

[1:28:11] the growth in the recreational

[1:28:12] recreation, growth and

[1:28:16] recreational needs of

[1:28:16] the community.

[1:28:17] The improvement will provide

[1:28:17] hundreds of local children and

[1:28:21] families with the significant

[1:28:21] enhancement experience for

[1:28:25] their indoor basketball and

[1:28:26] sports programing.

[1:28:26] I would also like to record a

[1:28:31] no vote on item s5o4 which is

[1:28:31] the salary ordinance for fiscal

[1:28:35] year 2027.

[1:28:35] I understand that it's

[1:28:40] the intention to bring an

[1:28:40] amendment forward at a future

[1:28:41] date but as it stands today I

[1:28:45] cannot support this item in its

[1:28:45] current form.

[1:28:46] I do not believe a car

[1:28:49] allowance is an appropriate use

[1:28:54] of city resources for

[1:28:55] the mayor's d-colo and deputy

[1:28:56] chief of staff especially in

[1:28:59] light of the city facing

[1:29:00] significant fiscal challenges.

[1:29:04] So with that no vote I am happy

[1:29:09] to make a motion to support

[1:29:09] the balance of the agenda.

[1:29:10] >> Thank you.

[1:29:10] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[1:29:14] Thank you Council members.

[1:29:15] So we do have a motion by

[1:29:15] Council member Marino to move

[1:29:18] the consent items and we'll go

[1:29:23] next to myself I guess so

[1:29:24] Councilmember Foster see if I

[1:29:28] can help you out.

[1:29:29] Council PRESIDENT I guess just

[1:29:33] if I MAY if I heard you

[1:29:33] correctly, you said item 50 was

[1:29:34] sent back to staff.

[1:29:38] I did not have that in my notes

[1:29:39] is being sent back to staff.

[1:29:42] Can you let me know why it was

[1:29:43] sent back to staff?

[1:29:44] It might be something changing

[1:29:47] with the item no councilmember

[1:29:52] but with the absences on

[1:29:52] the council today we do have a

[1:29:53] technology in place that will

[1:29:57] ensure no interruption of

[1:29:57] services for that software.

[1:29:58] >> It will return sometime in

[1:29:58] JUNE.

[1:30:03] What is I'm sorry if you can

[1:30:03] clarify what do you mean by

[1:30:06] it's six vote Amazon It's a six

[1:30:07] vote item Council member okay

[1:30:10] You didn't pull the salary

[1:30:11] ordinance, correct?

[1:30:15] Not yet.

[1:30:16] >> That that's a charter

[1:30:16] requirement.

[1:30:17] That's a little stickier for us

[1:30:23] but it requires six correct?

[1:30:24] >> I believe it's a five vote

[1:30:24] item.

[1:30:24] Sorry, Is it a five?

[1:30:25] Oh, I thought it said six.

[1:30:27] Okay.

[1:30:27] All righty.

[1:30:31] With that I will second

[1:30:37] the member's motion but I would

[1:30:38] also like to register a no vote

[1:30:38] on as five vote four.

[1:30:41] So thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[1:30:41] All right.

[1:30:45] So to the city attorney,

[1:30:46] the salary ordinance is

[1:30:47] actually a charter requirement

[1:30:50] that mandates that we take

[1:30:54] action before MAY 30th.

[1:30:55] So there's six of us here.

[1:30:58] It looks like there's two no

[1:30:58] votes.

[1:30:58] Okay.

[1:31:02] What's what's next?

[1:31:03] Councilmember Assistant City

[1:31:04] Attorney Jim McNeil thanks for

[1:31:04] the question.

[1:31:07] So yes, under charter Section

[1:31:07] 11.1, the council is charged

[1:31:12] with sending the salaries by

[1:31:13] MAY 30th through the salary

[1:31:17] ordinance.

[1:31:18] If it isn't passed by then then

[1:31:18] there's some ripple effects

[1:31:21] that take place because

[1:31:22] the appropriations ordinance

[1:31:25] which was to be passed by JUNE

[1:31:26] 30th relies on the adopted

[1:31:30] budget and the salary ordinance

[1:31:30] .

[1:31:31] And so in looking at it, if

[1:31:32] it's not passed and

[1:31:35] the appropriation ordinance

[1:31:36] comes forward, we still don't

[1:31:37] have a passed salary ordinance.

[1:31:40] The appropriations ordinance

[1:31:41] would be relying on the salary

[1:31:41] ordinance from last year which

[1:31:45] means that we have an issue of

[1:31:46] trying to deal with the ammo

[1:31:47] use that are coming forward for

[1:31:51] approval by the council and

[1:31:52] being able to actually pay

[1:31:52] under those mou years at that

[1:31:55] point in time What

[1:31:56] the authorization would be for

[1:31:56] that.

[1:32:00] And then I'll add this as a

[1:32:01] second reading so we can't

[1:32:01] change the ordinance which was

[1:32:05] clarified for me because that

[1:32:06] starts to make it a first

[1:32:09] reading Then we'd have to have

[1:32:10] a second reading which we

[1:32:10] cannot do before the end of

[1:32:13] the month, correct?

[1:32:14] Council PRESIDENT So

[1:32:15] the council has already passed

[1:32:18] this once the mayor has

[1:32:19] returned it to council now it's

[1:32:19] up for its second reading.

[1:32:20] If you made any changes it

[1:32:23] would have to be a first

[1:32:24] reading and I think it's pretty

[1:32:25] clear where the council wants

[1:32:28] to make amendments But for

[1:32:29] the JUNE 16th Amendment item to

[1:32:30] incorporate the newly agreed

[1:32:34] upon mou, you can't make an

[1:32:34] amendment there if there's

[1:32:35] nothing to make amendments on

[1:32:37] If we don't pass something

[1:32:38] today there's no future

[1:32:39] decision to make.

[1:32:42] And so I think if something

[1:32:43] fails today and then we go

[1:32:44] forward with introducing a new

[1:32:44] ordinance incorporating

[1:32:48] the council's you know, desired

[1:32:48] amendments, we kind of go into

[1:32:52] uncharted territory here post

[1:32:57] JUNE basically Um I want to

[1:32:58] respect my colleagues are

[1:33:02] voting their conscience.

[1:33:03] I do know that some council

[1:33:07] members MAY show up in this

[1:33:08] afternoon session so unless

[1:33:12] there's any objection I'm going

[1:33:13] to suggest that we trail

[1:33:17] the item So you can vote

[1:33:18] the way that you feel like you

[1:33:19] need to vote And I don't know

[1:33:22] if it'll make a difference this

[1:33:23] afternoon but I know at least

[1:33:23] one more council member will be

[1:33:27] attending.

[1:33:27] So again without objection and

[1:33:32] without any protest by the city

[1:33:33] Attorney's office as I navigate

[1:33:37] new waters we will trail as

[1:33:38] 504I guess what we'll do is

[1:33:41] pull out 504 and trail it to

[1:33:45] this afternoon and so each

[1:33:46] council member can continue to

[1:33:50] vote their conscience going

[1:33:51] forward and we'll see if we can

[1:33:52] navigate the charter

[1:33:56] requirement and the ripple

[1:33:56] effect.

[1:33:57] So unless there's any objection

[1:34:02] to that, well I mean I'm on

[1:34:02] the list but I don't know if

[1:34:03] you're trailing It means we're

[1:34:06] not commenting on the item

[1:34:06] anymore.

[1:34:10] So I know while I'm I'm happy

[1:34:11] to take any comments but we

[1:34:12] clearly don't have five votes

[1:34:16] with us today or this morning.

[1:34:17] >> I guess I'd like to

[1:34:20] understand the approach from

[1:34:21] the administration bringing

[1:34:22] this item back this week

[1:34:22] recognizing that there were

[1:34:26] challenges last week and as I

[1:34:31] can tell is the response simply

[1:34:32] that there is not a willingness

[1:34:32] to make any changes and

[1:34:36] therefore I was a desire to

[1:34:37] just test the waters.

[1:34:42] I know someone count them and I

[1:34:42] appreciate the question.

[1:34:46] Pro-Tem potentially it's to

[1:34:47] second reading I can't change

[1:34:47] the item from what was

[1:34:48] originally voted on and passed

[1:34:51] by council several weeks ago

[1:34:52] and so it had to return as is.

[1:34:56] I wasn't anticipating some of

[1:34:57] the absences I guess for today

[1:34:58] and we are also out of council

[1:35:01] meetings for the rest of this

[1:35:02] month knowing that we have to

[1:35:02] have something voted on and

[1:35:05] passed by MAY 30th.

[1:35:06] If I could just interject also

[1:35:07] it's a timing issue with

[1:35:10] respect to what it's coming

[1:35:11] back for which is which is set

[1:35:12] up in this current imo this

[1:35:16] current salary ordinance is

[1:35:16] the fact that we have menus

[1:35:17] that are in process that are

[1:35:20] being approved and so it's

[1:35:21] going to have to be changed.

[1:35:22] It's noted in the salary

[1:35:23] ordinance to adapt to those

[1:35:25] employees and so it has to be

[1:35:26] brought back at that point in

[1:35:31] time for an amendment And so if

[1:35:31] you pass it now and you have

[1:35:32] commitment at the same time

[1:35:35] the ammo user brought back any

[1:35:36] of the amendments that you want

[1:35:37] can be brought back at that

[1:35:37] point in time.

[1:35:38] But in the meantime you've

[1:35:40] passed a salary ordinance in

[1:35:45] compliance with the charter and

[1:35:45] there's at least two if not

[1:35:46] three members that were

[1:35:50] anticipated to be present this

[1:35:51] morning that are not here for

[1:35:55] various personal reasons.

[1:35:56] >> I understand that.

[1:36:00] But I think implication in that

[1:36:01] front is that somehow we're

[1:36:05] here because either people are

[1:36:05] voting their conscience or

[1:36:06] because they're unable to be

[1:36:10] here for whatever reason And

[1:36:15] and frankly some I don't I

[1:36:16] don't think it's as simple as

[1:36:17] just saying our colleagues are

[1:36:21] the ones that are leading us to

[1:36:21] this position if we're just

[1:36:22] going to see the same thing

[1:36:23] brought forward over and over

[1:36:26] again and to see the same

[1:36:26] issues come up over and over

[1:36:27] again.

[1:36:27] So I understand that that we're

[1:36:31] going to argue that we can't

[1:36:32] make a change in a second

[1:36:32] reading Fine.

[1:36:33] We've made changes in second

[1:36:35] readings and brought them back

[1:36:35] for a second reading to get

[1:36:36] them approved.

[1:36:36] We knew this was a problem a

[1:36:41] week ago so I you know we can

[1:36:45] get this look as if no one

[1:36:45] cares that that's the case But

[1:36:46] I don't think that's an

[1:36:47] acceptable response from what

[1:36:50] we're seeing.

[1:36:51] Council Member If I could just

[1:36:52] again maybe I wasn't clear in

[1:36:56] terms of even if we made

[1:36:56] the change today and then

[1:36:57] brought it back to a second

[1:37:02] reading, we still have to come

[1:37:02] back and make an amendment

[1:37:03] again for the employees.

[1:37:04] And so the notion was just

[1:37:07] doing it once.

[1:37:08] I totally, totally understand

[1:37:09] that that was always the case.

[1:37:09] That's part of the process.

[1:37:10] We're going to hear this again.

[1:37:13] I think what I heard was that

[1:37:13] if all else fails and nothing

[1:37:14] happens we'll be in uncharted

[1:37:15] territory and will bring

[1:37:17] forward a new salary ordinance

[1:37:18] for consideration in that JUNE

[1:37:22] meeting Not a not a amendment

[1:37:23] to the existing one.

[1:37:24] So either way I assume

[1:37:24] something is going to get

[1:37:28] brought forward in JUNE.

[1:37:29] Where it differs from

[1:37:29] the charter I think is

[1:37:30] the issue that that we seem to

[1:37:37] be at So I have additional

[1:37:38] thoughts but I don't think is

[1:37:38] particularly relevant will

[1:37:41] trail or pull this item and

[1:37:42] bring it back this afternoon

[1:37:46] and see if there is a outcome

[1:37:47] one way or the other.

[1:37:50] >> All right.

[1:37:51] >> People continue to vote

[1:37:57] their conscience.

[1:37:58] Let's say we did have a motion

[1:38:01] by Councilmember Moreno and a

[1:38:01] second by Councilmember Foster.

[1:38:02] Was there any other comment on

[1:38:03] the consent items?

[1:38:06] I'll make?

[1:38:07] I'm not seeing any I'll make a

[1:38:10] quick comment on item one, two,

[1:38:11] three.

[1:38:11] And some of my colleagues

[1:38:16] highlighted thank you to Parks

[1:38:17] and Rec staff and the Single

[1:38:18] Parks Foundation for working

[1:38:18] together and delivering

[1:38:21] community events programs on

[1:38:21] park improvements across

[1:38:22] the city as was mentioned

[1:38:26] programs and range from

[1:38:27] the basketball backboards to

[1:38:28] summer long programs like Parks

[1:38:32] and After Dark there's all of

[1:38:33] the things and again

[1:38:33] the increased enjoyment

[1:38:34] engagement with our

[1:38:34] neighborhood parks and

[1:38:37] recreation centers as we create

[1:38:38] safe places for all San Diego.

[1:38:39] And once again thank you to

[1:38:42] the Parks Foundation and

[1:38:43] the donors for improving our

[1:38:44] parks and recreation centers.

[1:38:48] >> So we have.

[1:38:49] Item 50 was previously

[1:38:50] the Budget Committee and have

[1:38:54] been returned to staff items

[1:38:55] 504 has been pulled and will be

[1:39:00] trailed to the afternoon

[1:39:00] session But we have on

[1:39:01] the balance a motion by

[1:39:05] Councilmember Moreno and a

[1:39:05] second by Councilmember Foster.

[1:39:10] So please call the roll.

[1:39:15] This is being a bit wonky today

[1:39:15] .

[1:39:16] >> Thank you for casting your

[1:39:22] votes that passes unanimously 6

[1:39:23] to 0 with Councilmember Eli

[1:39:23] Rivera.

[1:39:24] Councilmember Campeon

[1:39:27] Councilmember Von Wilpert

[1:39:28] absent and item five of were

[1:39:28] trailed to the afternoon.

[1:39:32] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[1:39:33] right thank you City Clerk Do

[1:39:34] we have any comments by mayoral

[1:39:38] office, Council members, City

[1:39:38] attorney Independent budget

[1:39:42] analyst or city Clerk not

[1:39:43] hearing any requests We will

[1:39:48] now take up knowledge of

[1:39:49] the public comment.

[1:39:49] Council members respect and

[1:39:50] appreciate the public input are

[1:39:54] fully committed to protecting

[1:39:55] every participant's free speech

[1:39:55] rights at council and committee

[1:39:58] meetings with that clerk.

[1:39:59] >> Please proceed with public

[1:40:04] comment.

[1:40:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT For

[1:40:06] all 2.7 on agenda Public

[1:40:06] comment is an opportunity for

[1:40:07] members of the public to

[1:40:10] comment on items that are not

[1:40:11] on the agenda but within

[1:40:12] the subject matter jurisdiction

[1:40:12] of the City Council.

[1:40:16] Each speaker will have two

[1:40:16] minutes.

[1:40:17] Please know if there are eight

[1:40:17] or more speakers on a single

[1:40:21] topic the maximum time for

[1:40:21] the topic will be 16 minutes.

[1:40:22] If you're in chambers please

[1:40:23] submit your speaker slip.

[1:40:23] If you're joining us virtually

[1:40:26] please raise your hand to speak

[1:40:27] by tapping the raise your hand

[1:40:30] icon now or the call

[1:40:31] participant Star nine Gene Wong

[1:40:32] if you can please come forward.

[1:40:41] >> You'll have two minutes for

[1:40:48] your Thank you all for having

[1:40:48] me here today.

[1:40:49] Yesterday was a very hard day

[1:40:50] and I just want to acknowledge

[1:40:52] that it's not what I'm talking

[1:40:53] about today though.

[1:40:54] Let's talk about transparency.

[1:40:58] I really thought that morning

[1:40:59] was going to be here today

[1:41:00] because apparently love that

[1:41:03] word at city hall right now

[1:41:04] Transparency, accountability

[1:41:04] and trust.

[1:41:05] So let's do that.

[1:41:10] So my question was actually for

[1:41:10] COUNCILWOMAN Marni Wilpert

[1:41:11] According to reports and a

[1:41:11] settlement agreement now

[1:41:15] publicly circulating, taxpayers

[1:41:16] paid $50,000 over disputes and

[1:41:16] controversies in more

[1:41:21] meaningful involving her former

[1:41:21] chief of staff.

[1:41:22] Our taxpayer money Our taxpayer

[1:41:27] money and allegations tied to

[1:41:27] this are not pretty.

[1:41:28] Reports and witnesses are

[1:41:28] alleging an employee was

[1:41:33] battling cancer while fired

[1:41:33] while taking care of her time

[1:41:34] off of chemotherapy.

[1:41:39] Now maybe that's not true.

[1:41:40] Maybe there's more context and

[1:41:40] I would love for her to have

[1:41:44] and I wish she was here because

[1:41:45] I would love for an opportunity

[1:41:46] to speak to this because right

[1:41:46] now the public gets stuck

[1:41:49] paying a bill while the details

[1:41:50] disappear Behind settlement

[1:41:51] language and pr cleanup You

[1:41:55] can't stand and brand yourself

[1:41:56] as a health care advocate and

[1:41:56] protector of workers while

[1:41:57] people are reading allegations

[1:42:01] that someone in your own office

[1:42:02] got pushed out while literally

[1:42:03] fighting cancer That's not

[1:42:08] working protection That's

[1:42:08] the exact kind of political

[1:42:09] behavior that people are

[1:42:09] exhausted by.

[1:42:13] And honestly this is why we've

[1:42:14] lost trust in our government.

[1:42:15] Regular people don't get golden

[1:42:15] parachutes and confidential

[1:42:20] settlements when they screw up

[1:42:20] at work.

[1:42:21] Regular people get fired.

[1:42:21] But somehow elected officials

[1:42:26] always seem to find taxpayer

[1:42:26] money when things get messy.

[1:42:27] San Diegans can barely afford

[1:42:31] groceries but somehow we can

[1:42:32] afford $50,000 settlement tied

[1:42:33] to alleged misconduct of a city

[1:42:37] council office And now she

[1:42:38] wants a promotion to Congress

[1:42:38] before asking for more power,

[1:42:43] more staff clean your own house

[1:42:44] first because transparency

[1:42:45] doesn't count when you're

[1:42:50] pointing fingers at everybody

[1:42:50] else.

[1:42:51] >> It counts when the light is

[1:42:51] on you.

[1:42:52] Thank you all so much.

[1:42:53] I appreciate you Sharrock so

[1:42:54] that if you can please come

[1:43:07] forward.

[1:43:08] Well my name is Sherry

[1:43:08] Accelerometer.

[1:43:12] I reside at 3713 Mount Ashland

[1:43:18] Place and 92111 that I brought

[1:43:18] some paperwork here with me to

[1:43:19] to lead to live here with you

[1:43:24] guys So one is a copy of

[1:43:25] the building permit for my home

[1:43:25] for the address that I just

[1:43:29] read.

[1:43:30] It was built back by a man

[1:43:30] named Harry Summers.

[1:43:35] He used a fake address for his

[1:43:35] contact information.

[1:43:36] I checked with the city permit

[1:43:37] department and there is no

[1:43:41] history for issuing a permit

[1:43:41] for 4430 Street.

[1:43:42] And I also checked with

[1:43:46] the county tax collectors.

[1:43:47] There's no history of ever

[1:43:48] collecting tax for that

[1:43:48] property.

[1:43:53] A lot of things are wrong with

[1:43:53] the house.

[1:43:54] One of them is a huge concern

[1:43:55] is a rectangular box in my

[1:43:58] garage.

[1:43:59] It's attached to the ceiling of

[1:44:00] the garage.

[1:44:04] It has eight electrical cables

[1:44:05] ,wires, a gas pipe and two

[1:44:06] water pipes inserted into

[1:44:06] the box.

[1:44:10] The box is about 8 to 10ft long

[1:44:11] and it's connected to a dock

[1:44:16] box which is connected to

[1:44:17] the furnace of the house And

[1:44:17] that dock box is connected to

[1:44:22] another dog box via a duck tube

[1:44:28] And I have pictures of those I

[1:44:29] have brought with me to leave

[1:44:35] out for the record duck box one

[1:44:36] of the duck boxes it's 100in

[1:44:38] above ground level and it

[1:44:39] stands at 33in.

[1:44:39] It doesn't have a bottom and

[1:44:44] one of the sidewalls is missing

[1:44:45] about a foot away from it is a

[1:44:45] duck tube.

[1:44:48] It's just hanging down Again

[1:44:49] it's about 100in above ground

[1:44:49] level.

[1:44:50] All of these are connected to

[1:44:55] the box and have the gas pipe

[1:44:55] leaked into it.

[1:44:59] We got this house in 1979 and

[1:45:00] as a child growing up in that

[1:45:00] house always smelled gas and

[1:45:05] frequently things of that

[1:45:05] nature.

[1:45:06] >> But the people that built

[1:45:07] the house and designed

[1:45:11] the house MAY I continue?

[1:45:12] >> No.

[1:45:12] I'm sorry your time has

[1:45:13] concluded.

[1:45:13] If you have any written

[1:45:14] comments we could definitely

[1:45:18] distribute that and we can make

[1:45:19] sure that gets into the record.

[1:45:19] I don't have to.

[1:45:20] Yes I will go down there and

[1:45:23] get it.

[1:45:24] I started the five and a timer

[1:45:24] going to those participating

[1:45:25] remotely.

[1:45:28] We currently have ten speakers

[1:45:28] in the queue Blair Beckman if

[1:45:33] you can please and you All

[1:45:39] right we're Beakman thanks for

[1:45:39] the meeting today.

[1:45:40] It's a sad time Like I said

[1:45:45] previously you know the work we

[1:45:46] do as local government, as

[1:45:51] community together it's usually

[1:45:51] a labor of love.

[1:45:52] You know we disagree on issues

[1:45:53] but now when we get into our

[1:45:57] work it's just it's we're doing

[1:45:57] our love, you know?

[1:46:02] And it's sad that this incident

[1:46:03] is happening and that the young

[1:46:08] people can better understand

[1:46:09] concepts of love in the future.

[1:46:10] I think they do have their own

[1:46:14] concept of love and it's I

[1:46:15] think probably a little out of

[1:46:15] whack And I mean we really have

[1:46:16] to learn concepts, you know,

[1:46:21] like covid 19 Somebody has some

[1:46:22] great design to do something

[1:46:26] beautiful for our humanity

[1:46:27] human future but we don't have

[1:46:28] to kill each other in order to

[1:46:28] get there.

[1:46:32] And that's an important lesson

[1:46:33] I hope we're learning.

[1:46:34] i think we've actually made

[1:46:34] strides in working on gun

[1:46:39] issues and gun violence with

[1:46:40] young people and this incident

[1:46:40] happened yesterday can be kind

[1:46:45] of an end.

[1:46:46] Hopefully we can really see it

[1:46:46] as a beginning of an end.

[1:46:47] You know, I think young people

[1:46:51] are better understanding that,

[1:46:51] you know, this is possibly

[1:46:52] going to create more violence,

[1:46:53] more you know, surveillance

[1:46:57] tech laws.

[1:46:58] Hopefully we're not going to go

[1:46:59] in that route And everybody's

[1:46:59] keeping a cool head about what

[1:47:03] to do with this time And we

[1:47:03] work on our issues.

[1:47:09] We continue the practices of

[1:47:10] love, negotiation, working

[1:47:10] together And I think we can do

[1:47:16] that on a number of issues and

[1:47:17] different parts of our

[1:47:17] community or religious

[1:47:18] communities of San Diego.

[1:47:21] It's really a time in in

[1:47:22] figuring out the ways how we

[1:47:23] can work together And I think

[1:47:24] there is good ways and good

[1:47:27] luck how we can be doing that.

[1:47:28] Thanks for the meeting today.

[1:47:29] Thanks for the words of Tony

[1:47:29] and other people that we're

[1:47:34] trying to be helpful and

[1:47:34] constructive and hopefully

[1:47:35] those good voices won't be

[1:47:36] marginalized and heard at this

[1:47:39] time.

[1:47:39] Thank you.

[1:47:40] Next is Conner Conner.

[1:47:46] If you can please.

[1:47:47] I mean after that will be

[1:47:47] Catherine's and pick you up.

[1:47:48] Oh, thank you.

[1:47:50] Clark, this is Conner from

[1:47:51] District three.

[1:47:52] I want to start by offering my

[1:47:55] condolences to the families of

[1:47:56] the three individuals who were

[1:47:57] killed yesterday in yet another

[1:47:57] act of violence, hatred or

[1:48:01] harassment against members of

[1:48:02] the Muslim and Jewish

[1:48:03] communities in this city and

[1:48:07] across the country more broadly

[1:48:07] We've heard testimony from

[1:48:08] members of those communities at

[1:48:09] city council meetings in

[1:48:09] the past and some of the things

[1:48:13] we've heard are just truly

[1:48:14] horrific And when left

[1:48:15] unchecked, I'm afraid that can

[1:48:15] lead to events like what

[1:48:20] occurred yesterday.

[1:48:21] Now it's gotten exponentially

[1:48:22] worse since OCTOBER 7th And

[1:48:22] the cause war MAY be a conflict

[1:48:25] that's occurring halfway across

[1:48:26] the world but we're feeling

[1:48:26] the repercussions of it here at

[1:48:27] home.

[1:48:27] I genuinely believe that each

[1:48:31] additional dollar that we add

[1:48:32] of American taxpayer money to

[1:48:32] this conflict makes things

[1:48:36] worse and not better.

[1:48:37] And in that respect I do want

[1:48:38] to express my disappointment

[1:48:38] although I don't think she's

[1:48:44] here with the council member

[1:48:44] from District five for

[1:48:45] accepting an endorsement from

[1:48:45] the mfi.

[1:48:49] This is of course an

[1:48:50] organization that is calling

[1:48:50] for yet another multi year

[1:48:55] multibillion dollar mou of

[1:48:56] the us sending military

[1:48:56] assistance to the state of

[1:48:56] Israel.

[1:49:01] And again I really think this

[1:49:01] is going to make things worse

[1:49:02] and not better.

[1:49:03] I would encourage her to

[1:49:03] reconsider her position on that

[1:49:07] issue To the Council more

[1:49:07] broadly I would encourage

[1:49:08] members to consider what they

[1:49:09] can personally do to help fix

[1:49:13] the broken poisonous political

[1:49:14] culture of this country to help

[1:49:18] lower the temperature and to

[1:49:19] allow us to have robust,

[1:49:20] meaningful, productive debates

[1:49:20] on issues that are really

[1:49:24] important and that need to be

[1:49:25] discussed without it careening

[1:49:30] off into hatred, invective and

[1:49:31] in potentially up to the loss

[1:49:32] of life like we saw.

[1:49:32] We can't afford to continue

[1:49:33] with the status quo.

[1:49:36] We can't afford to have more

[1:49:37] people more innocent people die

[1:49:38] overseas and in our own

[1:49:43] community here at home And I

[1:49:44] would encourage council members

[1:49:44] to consider what they could do

[1:49:45] to help curb some of that.

[1:49:45] Thank you.

[1:49:50] Thank you.

[1:49:50] Next is Katherine Rhodes and

[1:49:51] after that is Becky Rep

[1:49:51] Katherine Rhodes.

[1:49:54] Please email.

[1:49:55] >> Hello, this is Katherine

[1:49:56] Rhodes, our council PRESIDENT

[1:49:56] Joe LaCava.

[1:50:01] Mary Todd Gloria the city

[1:50:01] attorney and the rb working

[1:50:02] with expedia.Com and or other

[1:50:06] online travel companies to

[1:50:07] undermine the City Council and

[1:50:08] the Rules Committee by not

[1:50:12] allowing the public hearing to

[1:50:13] repatriate the 20% to 34%

[1:50:18] amounting to 77 244 million

[1:50:23] existing transit occupancy tax

[1:50:23] revenue from national and

[1:50:24] international online travel

[1:50:29] companies to the city's general

[1:50:34] fund City Council District two

[1:50:35] candidate Mandy Havlik The My

[1:50:36] Transit I can see tax reform

[1:50:37] ballot measures that were to be

[1:50:40] heard at the upcoming

[1:50:41] Wednesday, MAY 20th, 2026 Rules

[1:50:45] Committee hearing at 9 A.M.

[1:50:49] They also included four other

[1:50:50] ballot measures from city

[1:50:50] council members.

[1:50:56] Now none of us are having a

[1:50:56] hearing on Wednesday because

[1:50:57] they want to sabotage or

[1:51:01] hearings and I think it's just

[1:51:01] terrible.

[1:51:02] So anyway, on MAY 11th we

[1:51:03] received an email from city

[1:51:08] Council PRESIDENT Joe

[1:51:08] McCarthy's office stating that

[1:51:09] we are kicked off the Rules

[1:51:10] Committee's agenda and no

[1:51:13] longer involved in presenting

[1:51:14] our tort reform ballot measures

[1:51:14] to the Rules Committee or

[1:51:15] the City Council.

[1:51:19] Then Joe LaCava by myself

[1:51:20] without the rest of the Rules

[1:51:20] Committee or the full city

[1:51:21] council will be deciding

[1:51:22] the fate of our tort reform

[1:51:26] ballot measures that can delete

[1:51:27] the city's structural budget

[1:51:27] deficit by spreading

[1:51:28] the wealth.

[1:51:31] So what I'm asking for now is

[1:51:32] one of you other city council

[1:51:33] members here to send this to

[1:51:37] the city attorney You can

[1:51:38] during on agenda public comment

[1:51:39] you can still refer things to

[1:51:39] the city attorney or to

[1:51:43] the mayor to the idea.

[1:51:44] So I'm asking you to send it to

[1:51:45] the city attorney Any idea this

[1:51:49] is a question of leadership.

[1:51:50] So anyway, is it possible that

[1:51:50] Joe LaCava is being influenced

[1:51:56] by online travel companies,

[1:51:56] Expedia.Com or others to

[1:51:57] sabotage Trump has concluded

[1:52:03] Becky Rob if can please a new

[1:52:03] after that is Tony and then

[1:52:04] 8700 like you wrote.

[1:52:08] >> Good afternoon My name is

[1:52:09] Becky and I'm here today to ask

[1:52:09] the city to prioritize

[1:52:10] enforcement against illegal

[1:52:14] trade on flavored tobacco sales

[1:52:14] and intoxicating hemp products

[1:52:15] happening and selling openly

[1:52:19] across our neighborhoods.

[1:52:20] One neighboring city Oceanside

[1:52:26] is actively enforcing law.

[1:52:26] According to recent reports,

[1:52:27] the police and code enforcement

[1:52:30] sees one 6300 prohibited

[1:52:30] products during one operation

[1:52:31] alone under their municipal

[1:52:36] code Every violation can be

[1:52:37] treated as a separate offense

[1:52:37] and each day the violation

[1:52:38] continues can create additional

[1:52:42] penalties.

[1:52:43] Businesses are reportedly

[1:52:44] facing hundreds of thousands of

[1:52:44] dollars in fines.

[1:52:48] Meanwhile, San Diego we have

[1:52:49] smoke shops selling flavored

[1:52:49] vapes illegal nicotine

[1:52:54] products, creative extracts and

[1:52:55] high potency substances with

[1:52:56] little to no oversight.

[1:53:00] Our penalties are minimal and

[1:53:00] many businesses simply treat

[1:53:01] them as a cost of doing

[1:53:01] business.

[1:53:05] It's San Diego has roughly 200

[1:53:06] smoke shops and enforcement

[1:53:09] officers seized just 100

[1:53:10] illegal products from each

[1:53:11] location at a penalty of 500

[1:53:11] per illegal item.

[1:53:15] The city could potentially

[1:53:16] collect $10 million in fines.

[1:53:17] That estimate does not even

[1:53:21] account for repeat violations,

[1:53:22] daily penalties or the sheer

[1:53:23] volume of products Many of

[1:53:23] these stores appear to be

[1:53:28] selling at a time when the city

[1:53:29] is constantly discussing budget

[1:53:29] shortfalls, cuts to services

[1:53:34] and limited resources.

[1:53:34] Why are we ignoring laws

[1:53:35] already in place that could

[1:53:39] both protect public health and

[1:53:40] generate substantial revenue

[1:53:41] for enforcement and prevention

[1:53:41] efforts?

[1:53:45] I urge this Council to direct

[1:53:46] Code Enforcement and San Diego

[1:53:47] Police Department to prioritize

[1:53:51] inspections of smoke shops,

[1:53:52] strengthen penalties for repeat

[1:53:52] offenders and begin treating

[1:53:57] these violations seriously.

[1:53:58] Thank you.

[1:54:03] Tell me if we complete a new

[1:54:04] then 8700 and the Madison.

[1:54:05] The five minute timer also did

[1:54:09] conclude there were nine

[1:54:10] speakers of the queue at that

[1:54:11] point eight speakers in

[1:54:11] the queue.

[1:54:12] Now no additional speakers will

[1:54:12] be taken.

[1:54:15] Tony, please proceed.

[1:54:15] Yes?

[1:54:16] Can you hear me?

[1:54:16] Yes.

[1:54:17] Hey, good morning.

[1:54:20] City Council.

[1:54:21] What I have to say is going to

[1:54:22] sound really harsh but it needs

[1:54:26] to be said.

[1:54:27] Some of you have blood on your

[1:54:28] hands as a result of

[1:54:28] yesterday's incident.

[1:54:32] You were warned several months

[1:54:33] ago that the hra definition of

[1:54:33] anti-Semitism was woefully

[1:54:39] inadequate, that it did not

[1:54:40] protect our brothers and

[1:54:40] sisters in the Muslim community

[1:54:44] in the Islamic community.

[1:54:45] You were warned and you were

[1:54:46] told that the hrc definition of

[1:54:51] anti-Semitism needed to include

[1:54:51] those members of the community.

[1:54:52] Stephen Whitburn You had ample

[1:54:56] opportunity to take that

[1:54:56] definition back to your office

[1:54:57] and work on it as was asked you

[1:55:02] by Sean Eli Rivera.

[1:55:03] You chose not to and the rest

[1:55:04] of you chose to be cowards and

[1:55:08] vote for something

[1:55:08] The ultimately does not protect

[1:55:09] all of the people of San Diego

[1:55:10] in giving preference to

[1:55:14] the Jewish community over our

[1:55:14] Muslim and Islamic community.

[1:55:20] You have shown that you that

[1:55:21] you are biased in favor of

[1:55:21] Zionists and favor of Israel

[1:55:25] which is currently dragging us

[1:55:26] into war with Iran which is

[1:55:27] currently bombing Lebanon which

[1:55:28] is currently putting us in such

[1:55:32] a precarious position all over

[1:55:33] the world with this draconian

[1:55:38] disastrous foreign policy that

[1:55:39] for you all to accept it, that

[1:55:40] for you all to protect

[1:55:43] the Jewish people and not

[1:55:44] protect any other people of

[1:55:45] Semitic background is shameful

[1:55:49] and it's contributing to what

[1:55:50] happened yesterday.

[1:55:50] And guess what?

[1:55:51] The fact that Chief of Police

[1:55:55] Scott Wall is claiming to Alper

[1:55:56] could have been utilized or was

[1:55:57] utilized yesterday to prevent

[1:56:01] this from happening is a

[1:56:02] shameful blatant lie.

[1:56:03] These kids were out for two

[1:56:03] hours.

[1:56:07] The police knew that they were

[1:56:08] out and that they had weapons,

[1:56:09] that they had stolen a vehicle

[1:56:09] and they weren't stopped.

[1:56:14] How's that for a response time

[1:56:14] ?

[1:56:15] >> How is that serving and

[1:56:15] protecting our community?

[1:56:16] Shame on all of you.

[1:56:20] Do better.

[1:56:21] >> Next is 8700 If you can

[1:56:24] please unmute 8700 and then

[1:56:24] I'll be Madison.

[1:56:31] >> Thank you, Joy.

[1:56:31] Senator.

[1:56:32] Before I start I just want to

[1:56:32] say this.

[1:56:39] Council Member Foster Third

[1:56:39] thank you for these three words

[1:56:44] and I like the order of them.

[1:56:44] i don't know if you meant that.

[1:56:49] Loving learning and accepting.

[1:56:50] That's what I had to do just

[1:56:50] then.

[1:56:55] Okay.

[1:56:56] So I'm going to talk about

[1:56:57] the structural budget deficit.

[1:57:01] The speed.

[1:57:02] So I'm going to say words that

[1:57:07] were spoken by people.

[1:57:08] I'll start with the idea.

[1:57:13] They said critical to align

[1:57:13] ongoing expenses with ongoing

[1:57:19] revenue to provide stability

[1:57:19] and restore public trust.

[1:57:20] Given.

[1:57:26] It's so vital that quote from

[1:57:27] the Department of Finance these

[1:57:31] are those very recent staff

[1:57:32] report.

[1:57:32] As the city continues to

[1:57:37] address the structural budget

[1:57:37] deficit, the importance of

[1:57:43] maintaining cash reserves to

[1:57:44] strengthen the city's fiscal

[1:57:48] position and effectively manage

[1:57:49] potential future economic

[1:57:49] downturns.

[1:57:55] As you never repeat that has

[1:57:56] never been more critical to end

[1:57:57] of quote.

[1:58:01] Now this This is for me so I

[1:58:07] can't get why we can't get a

[1:58:08] handle on this core issue of

[1:58:13] the structural budget deficit.

[1:58:14] I think it's 20 to 30 years old

[1:58:18] now and I just don't get it.

[1:58:19] All of you are extremely

[1:58:20] intelligent.

[1:58:20] You love your constituents.

[1:58:25] I'm sure.

[1:58:26] And you get it.

[1:58:26] You get the structural budget

[1:58:27] deficit and you bring it all

[1:58:31] here in there.

[1:58:32] >> You put it all the time

[1:58:37] because my apologies metaphors

[1:58:38] .

[1:58:38] >> Our next speaker after that

[1:58:39] is Hector.

[1:58:39] i thank you.

[1:58:40] Today I want to address

[1:58:43] the growing public safety

[1:58:44] impact of marijuana

[1:58:44] commercialization, especially

[1:58:45] on impaired driving.

[1:58:49] A new bipartisan transportation

[1:58:50] bill in Congress would require

[1:58:50] federal agencies to develop

[1:58:56] evidence based impairment

[1:58:56] standards for marijuana and

[1:58:57] other drugs while also

[1:59:00] investing more than $100

[1:59:01] million into better crash data

[1:59:01] collection, toxicology testing

[1:59:07] and impaired driving prevention

[1:59:07] research.

[1:59:08] That should tell us something

[1:59:09] important at the federal level.

[1:59:12] Leaders from both parties

[1:59:13] recognize that marijuana

[1:59:14] impairment on our roads is a

[1:59:18] serious and unresolved issue.

[1:59:19] Unlike alcohol, there is still

[1:59:20] no universally accepted

[1:59:20] standard for marijuana

[1:59:21] impairment.

[1:59:25] Yet communities like San Diego

[1:59:26] continue expanding access,

[1:59:31] normalization and visibility of

[1:59:31] high potency marijuana

[1:59:32] products.

[1:59:32] Meanwhile, families share

[1:59:33] the roads every day with

[1:59:37] drivers who MAY be impaired by

[1:59:38] marijuana or multiple

[1:59:38] substances combined.

[1:59:39] Federal transportation

[1:59:39] officials themselves recently

[1:59:44] stated that marijuana use is

[1:59:44] not compatible with safety

[1:59:45] sensitive functions.

[1:59:50] Airline pilots, truck drivers

[1:59:50] and other transportation

[1:59:51] workers are still prohibited

[1:59:52] from using it because the risks

[1:59:56] are real.

[1:59:56] As our city discusses public

[1:59:57] health, transportation safety

[2:00:02] and well-being, I urge you to

[2:00:03] take these warnings seriously.

[2:00:03] We should not move faster on

[2:00:08] marijuana normalization than

[2:00:09] the science and safety

[2:00:09] standards can keep up with.

[2:00:10] Parents should not have to

[2:00:14] wonder whether the driver next

[2:00:14] to their child's school bus or

[2:00:15] crosswalk is impaired.

[2:00:16] Please prioritize policies that

[2:00:20] protect public safety.

[2:00:21] Support prevention, education

[2:00:22] and recognize the very real

[2:00:26] consequences of impaired

[2:00:27] driving on San Diego families.

[2:00:27] Thank you.

[2:00:28] Thank you.

[2:00:31] If you can please unmute after

[2:00:38] that will be 7499.

[2:00:38] Can you hear me?

[2:00:38] Yes.

[2:00:39] Please proceed.

[2:00:39] Oh yeah.

[2:00:40] Thanks for taking my call.

[2:00:43] Yeah I was thinking about those

[2:00:44] license plates readers and I

[2:00:49] live up on top of Mission

[2:00:50] Valley where those fires were.

[2:00:51] And if I go to Ralphs down

[2:00:51] the hill about a mile and a

[2:00:55] half away, I passed through

[2:00:56] like five cameras for license

[2:00:57] plate readers and it's no

[2:01:01] problem with me.

[2:01:02] And I'd say maybe the mass of

[2:01:02] the churches have got to get

[2:01:07] some license plate readers of

[2:01:08] their own arts or eat up to

[2:01:08] the system.

[2:01:09] I wouldn't be against it.

[2:01:13] I know everyone's worried about

[2:01:13] with the immigration thing

[2:01:14] going on with that but it looks

[2:01:18] like we passed the mark and

[2:01:18] then I don't know how anyone

[2:01:19] could beef up their place

[2:01:25] better than those guys did

[2:01:25] already The Muslim guys You

[2:01:26] know I had our guard right

[2:01:30] there as a big dude You just

[2:01:35] can't dispense everything but

[2:01:36] one thing in the neighborhood.

[2:01:37] I talked to a guy who used to

[2:01:37] house up there.

[2:01:38] There is a beef in

[2:01:41] the neighborhood about

[2:01:42] the parking like all the Muslim

[2:01:43] guys parked there on Friday and

[2:01:47] they take up all the parking

[2:01:48] spaces and all

[2:01:48] the neighborhood's kind of in a

[2:01:53] bad way And he didn't like it

[2:01:53] and he was worried about

[2:01:54] they're going to put the call a

[2:01:59] prayer out and he was like

[2:02:00] really incensed about that.

[2:02:01] He did what the Muslim guys

[2:02:01] have in the court prayer but

[2:02:05] there could be a beef in

[2:02:06] the neighborhood.

[2:02:07] I think there is a beef that

[2:02:12] they take up the parking they

[2:02:12] might need to build a parking

[2:02:13] lot.

[2:02:13] There's a parking lot right in

[2:02:14] front of them by the freeway

[2:02:17] that could build like a five

[2:02:18] story parking garage right

[2:02:18] there and have a walkway over

[2:02:23] to their mosque that would kind

[2:02:24] of alleviate that or the city

[2:02:25] can work with them And but you

[2:02:30] know, that's no reason to do

[2:02:30] what they did.

[2:02:31] But we have to get all

[2:02:34] the facts, get the guns, get

[2:02:35] the letters before we give our

[2:02:36] opinion about why it happened.

[2:02:42] But good luck by next 27499 if

[2:02:43] you can please on mute And then

[2:02:50] after that Jerry and Kelly Bob

[2:02:51] because this guy here I'd like

[2:02:51] to start off by thanking City

[2:02:52] Clerk Fuentes for a truly

[2:02:56] remarkable citizen support over

[2:02:57] the last few days and weeks.

[2:02:57] I had originally complained

[2:02:58] about not being able to bring

[2:03:02] media to council on thumb drive

[2:03:03] and it appears that City Clerk

[2:03:04] Fuentes has resolve that issue.

[2:03:08] Thanks and good job.

[2:03:09] City Clerk Fuentes and Matthew

[2:03:09] Hilario have also been

[2:03:10] extremely responsive to email

[2:03:14] requests, even responding late

[2:03:15] in the evening and on weekends

[2:03:16] to help me track down a few

[2:03:20] city documents.

[2:03:20] Good job again.

[2:03:21] Having said that, however, I'm

[2:03:22] increasingly concerned about

[2:03:26] the outsourcing of the city's

[2:03:27] public services to private

[2:03:27] businesses.

[2:03:28] I don't think citizens should

[2:03:32] be forced to interact with

[2:03:33] private businesses such as

[2:03:33] Highland Cloud or next request

[2:03:38] or constant contact in order to

[2:03:39] obtain basic information and

[2:03:39] services from the city.

[2:03:40] I am particularly disturbed to

[2:03:44] hear that the city's entire

[2:03:44] municipal code and council

[2:03:45] resolution systems and possibly

[2:03:49] others MAY be contracted out to

[2:03:50] private businesses later this

[2:03:50] summer.

[2:03:51] I believe that all of the city

[2:03:55] support for citizens should be

[2:03:56] direct without any third party

[2:03:56] gatekeepers involved.

[2:04:01] The city is certainly welcome

[2:04:02] to hire contractors who provide

[2:04:03] services within the city's

[2:04:03] infrastructure but it is

[2:04:08] disturbing to see cities and

[2:04:09] have to go to third party

[2:04:09] vendors and third party

[2:04:10] websites to get basic city

[2:04:14] services and resources.

[2:04:15] I ask the mayor, city clerk and

[2:04:16] this council to please

[2:04:20] reconsider and reverse this

[2:04:21] disturbing trend.

[2:04:21] And as always I am again asking

[2:04:26] the city and this means you Joe

[2:04:27] LaCava to reactivate the Torrey

[2:04:28] Pines City Park Advisory Board

[2:04:31] and implement a flight waiver

[2:04:32] system similar to the one

[2:04:32] that's been in use in Los

[2:04:33] Angeles since 2017.

[2:04:38] That's another example where

[2:04:39] city resources have been turned

[2:04:39] over to a private commercial

[2:04:40] business at the public's

[2:04:40] expense.

[2:04:44] Shame on you Joe Lacob and

[2:04:45] shame on every member of this

[2:04:46] council for ignoring this

[2:04:46] problem for decades.

[2:04:50] Thank you.

[2:04:51] >> Thank you.

[2:04:51] Next is Gerry and Scully.

[2:04:56] If you can please unmute.

[2:04:56] >> Good afternoon City and City

[2:05:01] City Council Chair LaCava.

[2:05:02] As a community volunteer with

[2:05:02] our youth afterschool programs

[2:05:03] I feel like my observations

[2:05:07] regarding city decisions that

[2:05:08] support them are important.

[2:05:09] How a city treats its most

[2:05:14] vulnerable members reveals its

[2:05:15] true nature Or as it can be

[2:05:15] stated the way a society cares

[2:05:19] for and protects its total is a

[2:05:20] strong indicator of its overall

[2:05:25] morality, values and level of

[2:05:25] civilization.

[2:05:26] So thank you for making it

[2:05:26] possible for a parent and

[2:05:31] community volunteer like me to

[2:05:32] speak virtually what we work in

[2:05:32] youth programs.

[2:05:33] Recently the California

[2:05:37] Department of Public Health

[2:05:38] wrote that suicide is

[2:05:38] the second leading cause of

[2:05:39] death among adolescents and

[2:05:44] young adults aged 15 to 24.

[2:05:45] Teen and young adult mental

[2:05:50] health is a complex situation.

[2:05:51] However, the risks of today's

[2:05:51] high potency thc marijuana

[2:05:56] products must never be

[2:05:56] overlooked for its role in

[2:06:02] generating suicide ideation.

[2:06:02] Hopefully our city council can

[2:06:03] be counted among those trusted

[2:06:08] adults who are concerned about

[2:06:08] the harmful effects of its

[2:06:09] sales and consumption and not

[2:06:14] enlarge the footprint of

[2:06:14] marijuana storefronts in our

[2:06:15] city.

[2:06:15] Now will be a great time to

[2:06:20] reduce the pot businesses

[2:06:20] impact on our youth with its

[2:06:21] predatory advertising and

[2:06:25] billboards and remove them.

[2:06:26] Thank you for hearing my

[2:06:27] concerns this afternoon.

[2:06:30] Thank you.

[2:06:31] >> Judy Strang If you can

[2:06:36] please unmute.

[2:06:36] >> Judy Strang again for you.

[2:06:37] There you go.

[2:06:43] Hi, Good afternoon.

[2:06:43] How is difficult to call in

[2:06:44] from my work site?

[2:06:49] I wanted to share a stream of

[2:06:50] thought that I had when I read

[2:06:50] the Wall Street Journal article

[2:06:54] this morning that talked about

[2:06:55] the role of allergies in health

[2:06:55] care and employment and health

[2:07:00] costs and pointed out that for

[2:07:01] allergies related to food that

[2:07:02] there's an admittance into our

[2:07:06] health care our hospitals once

[2:07:06] every three minutes.

[2:07:12] I did a little research more on

[2:07:13] allergies and I'm well

[2:07:14] acquainted I think as many of

[2:07:14] you are with the role that

[2:07:18] allergies plays and health care

[2:07:19] costs and miserable living

[2:07:19] experiences.

[2:07:25] I might also add.

[2:07:25] And I pointed out that

[2:07:26] secondhand smoke and vape is a

[2:07:30] serious trigger for allergies.

[2:07:31] And it goes on to point out

[2:07:32] that what happens is it

[2:07:37] triggers the immune system, our

[2:07:37] individual immune systems to

[2:07:38] react and in doing so it can

[2:07:43] inflame our nasal passages and

[2:07:43] airways.

[2:07:44] It can lower the threshold for

[2:07:44] other allergens to bother us

[2:07:49] even more And it causes a sort

[2:07:50] of sensitization that in

[2:07:55] childhood can lead to asthma.

[2:07:56] I got to looking at our

[2:07:57] policies here at the city and

[2:08:01] many of us have asked you about

[2:08:02] smoke free public places and

[2:08:02] smoke free.

[2:08:07] And I thought Chromecast

[2:08:07] perspective this has got to be

[2:08:08] anything that would lower our

[2:08:13] city's citizens allergic

[2:08:14] reaction that they can have a

[2:08:14] second hand smoke and they

[2:08:19] would deeply decrease the cost

[2:08:19] of our health services, our

[2:08:20] hospital cost and improve

[2:08:21] the quality of life for

[2:08:26] everyone around us.

[2:08:27] So perhaps this is a way to

[2:08:27] save ourselves some money.

[2:08:28] It's not one you'll see

[2:08:33] automatically but it's

[2:08:33] certainly one that will happen.

[2:08:34] >> Thank you.

[2:08:34] Thank you.

[2:08:35] And our final speaker is Peggy

[2:08:35] Walker.

[2:08:38] If you can please unmute.

[2:08:38] >> Thank you.

[2:08:39] Good afternoon and thank you

[2:08:44] for your compassionate remarks

[2:08:45] this morning.

[2:08:45] I came today to acknowledge

[2:08:50] that Sun is not its world No

[2:08:50] Tobacco Day.

[2:08:51] In light of that observation

[2:08:52] which calls attention to

[2:08:56] Smokey's smoking devastating

[2:08:57] health and environmental

[2:08:57] impacts.

[2:09:01] I want to congratulate the city

[2:09:02] attorney's office and law

[2:09:03] enforcement for recent actions

[2:09:07] against smoke shops selling

[2:09:08] hemp and marijuana products

[2:09:09] without a license.

[2:09:09] Snapshots, gas stations and

[2:09:14] other small convenience stores

[2:09:15] have become exceptionally bold

[2:09:15] in selling what's called gas

[2:09:16] station.

[2:09:20] We products like Delta eight

[2:09:21] Vapes and thc infused beverages

[2:09:26] without a license.

[2:09:26] As noted earlier, some also

[2:09:31] sell prohibited flavored vapes

[2:09:32] and unregulated mushroom kratom

[2:09:37] and nitrous oxide products that

[2:09:38] can be highly addictive.

[2:09:39] These are often hidden in

[2:09:44] backrooms which makes ongoing

[2:09:44] undercover compliance checks

[2:09:45] especially critical.

[2:09:50] Prohibited flavored tobacco is

[2:09:50] timely and the fda in a

[2:09:55] controversial move just

[2:09:56] approved two fruit flavored

[2:09:57] nicotine vapes for adult users.

[2:10:01] The fda called this neither

[2:10:02] quote approval nor endorsement.

[2:10:02] I bring it to your attention

[2:10:08] because the fda's action does

[2:10:08] not mean flavored tobacco

[2:10:13] products can be sold locally

[2:10:14] flavored tobacco remains banned

[2:10:14] in California and we're assured

[2:10:20] fda authorized action does not

[2:10:20] override state or local

[2:10:21] prohibitions.

[2:10:25] Please remain vigilant in

[2:10:26] helping kids keep tobacco free

[2:10:32] and keeping unauthorized and

[2:10:32] intoxicating tobacco products

[2:10:33] off store shelves.

[2:10:39] Thank you for your attention.

[2:10:39] Thank you.

[2:10:40] That does include knowledge on

[2:10:41] the public comment for today's

[2:10:41] meeting.

[2:10:41] All right.

[2:10:42] Thank you.

[2:10:44] City clerk.

[2:10:44] We will now adjourned for

[2:10:45] the noon recess and reconvene

[2:10:46] in open session at 2 P.M. Or

[2:10:46] shortly thereafter.

[2:19:26] And

[2:21:06] if you

[2:23:05] don't

[2:27:31] already

[2:27:31] .

[2:27:36] >> Good afternoon.

[2:27:37] >> I will now reconvene

[2:27:38] the city council meeting of

[2:27:39] Tuesday, MAY 19th, 2026.

[2:27:43] Clerk Please call the roll.

[2:27:43] Thank you.

[2:27:44] Council PRESIDENT Council

[2:27:44] Member Campbell.

[2:27:45] Councilmember Whitburn

[2:27:50] Councilmember Foster Councilor

[2:27:51] Von Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro

[2:27:56] Tem Lee here Councilmember

[2:27:56] Campos here.

[2:27:57] Councilmember Moreno present

[2:27:57] Councilmember Isla Rivera and

[2:28:01] Council PRESIDENT Other

[2:28:02] present.

[2:28:02] Also attending the meeting are

[2:28:03] City Attorney Leslie

[2:28:03] Fitzgerald, independent budget

[2:28:07] analyst Charles Moraga, Council

[2:28:07] Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's

[2:28:08] office, code advisor and myself

[2:28:09] your City Clerk Thank you

[2:28:09] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:28:12] >> All right.

[2:28:13] Thank you, City Clerk.

[2:28:14] Quorum is now present.

[2:28:18] As a reminder from announcement

[2:28:19] made this morning items 330 and

[2:28:23] item f503 have been returned to

[2:28:24] staff and will not be heard

[2:28:30] this afternoon again that's

[2:28:31] items 330 and item f five all

[2:28:31] three return to staff will not

[2:28:35] be heard today before we get on

[2:28:40] with item 331 we have a little

[2:28:40] bit of unfinished business from

[2:28:41] this morning.

[2:28:47] Clerk please introduce item 504

[2:28:47] which was trailed from this

[2:28:48] morning's consent agenda.

[2:28:52] Thank you.

[2:28:53] Item s5o4 is the salary

[2:28:53] ordinance for fiscal year 2027.

[2:28:58] Public comment was taken on

[2:28:59] this during the morning

[2:28:59] session.

[2:29:00] >> Thank you.

[2:29:00] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:29:01] All right.

[2:29:01] Thank you.

[2:29:05] So item five four of the clerk

[2:29:08] indicated is the second reading

[2:29:09] for the salary ordinance.

[2:29:10] We did take public comment on

[2:29:15] this this morning.

[2:29:16] There is no need for a

[2:29:16] presentation.

[2:29:17] I think the council all

[2:29:20] understands and recalls this

[2:29:21] item.

[2:29:22] So I'm going to move item as

[2:29:25] five of four to kick things off

[2:29:26] as a purely procedural item

[2:29:27] which doesn't actually fund

[2:29:32] anything or allocate

[2:29:33] appropriate any dollars or set

[2:29:34] a budget but as a procedural

[2:29:38] thing mandated by the charter.

[2:29:39] So I will put a motion on

[2:29:43] the floor to approve item 5 or

[2:29:44] 4 and turn over to my

[2:29:47] colleagues questions Comments

[2:29:48] Looking for a second

[2:29:48] Councilmember Campbell.

[2:29:49] >> I will be all right.

[2:30:03] I'd like to just say that okay

[2:30:03] .

[2:30:10] >> This is who was it who set

[2:30:11] the laws and as I think was it

[2:30:11] Shakespeare?

[2:30:14] This is this is one of those

[2:30:15] deals where because of dates in

[2:30:20] the charter we have to do

[2:30:21] certain procedures by a certain

[2:30:21] time.

[2:30:26] However, it is my understanding

[2:30:32] that in the further revisions

[2:30:32] of the budget to come there

[2:30:37] will be amendments to this such

[2:30:38] that the Council last week had

[2:30:44] had given its information as to

[2:30:44] how we felt about a certain

[2:30:50] part of this and my

[2:30:50] understanding was that we had

[2:30:56] been promised promised.

[2:30:57] We have been assured by

[2:30:57] the administration that that

[2:31:02] particular item would be

[2:31:03] considered and put in there to

[2:31:08] meet what we expected in

[2:31:09] the final version And so

[2:31:09] therefore I'm happy to second

[2:31:10] it.

[2:31:15] I'm happy to meet the legally

[2:31:16] required dates and I will be in

[2:31:20] favor of it today.

[2:31:21] >> Thank you.

[2:31:21] All right.

[2:31:22] Thank you.

[2:31:22] Councilmember Campbell Good.

[2:31:27] I got a little ahead of myself.

[2:31:28] Did you want to speak to what

[2:31:29] I'm referring to?

[2:31:29] Yeah.

[2:31:30] Thank you, Counsel Present And

[2:31:32] to follow up on Councilmember

[2:31:33] Campbell's comments.

[2:31:33] Yes.

[2:31:34] You have the commitment of this

[2:31:34] administration to modify and

[2:31:38] reduce the car allowances.

[2:31:39] I realize this has been a

[2:31:42] frustrating process over

[2:31:43] the last two weeks.

[2:31:44] I realize there are pieces in

[2:31:44] here that do not have

[2:31:45] the support of this council.

[2:31:49] I am limited in what I can

[2:31:49] change in a second reading.

[2:31:50] The other commitment of this

[2:31:51] administration to work with

[2:31:55] this Council before the JUNE

[2:31:55] 16th Amendment to make those

[2:31:56] modifications and bring this

[2:31:56] back for Council's

[2:32:00] consideration.

[2:32:01] >> MAY I just add I believe

[2:32:07] Councilmember Campo had educate

[2:32:08] me a little bit on that

[2:32:09] statement about the lobbying

[2:32:13] and I have something that it

[2:32:14] said that wasn't as an English

[2:32:19] writer right?

[2:32:19] >> An English writer?

[2:32:20] Yes.

[2:32:20] That's first beside Shakespeare

[2:32:25] Another.

[2:32:25] >> Okay.

[2:32:26] Thank you.

[2:32:26] All right.

[2:32:27] Health Council PRESIDENT Pro

[2:32:32] Tem Lee thinking as PRESIDENT

[2:32:33] And co to thank you for thank

[2:32:37] you for talking to the back and

[2:32:37] forth about this.

[2:32:38] I think certainly we're all

[2:32:38] dealing with the same

[2:32:39] frustrations trying to get

[2:32:42] something across the board And

[2:32:43] so that acknowledgment does

[2:32:43] mean a lot and I'm not sure I

[2:32:49] fully grasp exactly the changes

[2:32:50] that DR. Jane because we're

[2:32:51] Campbell is alluded to and

[2:32:54] the degree to which this

[2:32:55] changes are being made.

[2:32:56] But I think knowing that we're

[2:32:56] going to get something

[2:32:57] delivered that that matches

[2:32:58] the intent is helpful.

[2:33:01] Thank.

[2:33:01] All right.

[2:33:01] Thank you, sir.

[2:33:06] And Councilmember Foster.

[2:33:06] Oh, yes.

[2:33:07] As I stated earlier, I'm still

[2:33:13] going to be voting no.

[2:33:15] I think we set a bad precedent

[2:33:20] as we you know, I think we kind

[2:33:21] of pick and choose what we

[2:33:22] consider the law at certain

[2:33:26] times and how we do certain

[2:33:26] things.

[2:33:32] But I do think as we continue

[2:33:32] to move forward that as we

[2:33:33] found ourselves in a situation

[2:33:38] that hopefully we can plan

[2:33:39] better as we continue to move

[2:33:39] forward.

[2:33:43] What I would like to request as

[2:33:44] I am unclear as to what's in

[2:33:45] here, what the discussion was

[2:33:50] on what's in, what's out, what

[2:33:51] that looks like If when we

[2:33:56] finish our negotiations or

[2:33:56] whatever we where we land as we

[2:33:57] continue to move forward I'd

[2:33:58] like to formally requested

[2:34:01] briefing to where I can be

[2:34:02] fully well versed to understand

[2:34:03] where we land and all

[2:34:07] the changes that are being made

[2:34:08] to the salary ordinance as we

[2:34:08] move forward.

[2:34:09] Yeah Councilmember I think

[2:34:15] the initial introduction of

[2:34:15] this ordinance had challenges

[2:34:16] and so yes you have

[2:34:17] the commitment to brief your

[2:34:17] offices in advance.

[2:34:19] Thank you for that.

[2:34:20] >> Right And Councilmember

[2:34:25] Moreno thank you And I want to

[2:34:26] put this on the record.

[2:34:27] As I stated earlier, I

[2:34:32] understand an amendment will be

[2:34:32] brought forward but my concern

[2:34:33] with this item stems from

[2:34:34] the city's failure to fully

[2:34:38] address the fiscal challenges

[2:34:39] we're currently facing I think

[2:34:39] Councilmember Campbell for

[2:34:44] bringing updates and I want to

[2:34:45] put on the record when did

[2:34:46] staff work on this ordinance?

[2:34:50] >> I get a call from H.R.

[2:34:55] On the timing.

[2:35:02] Thank you, councilmember moreno

[2:35:03] and this is an ongoing item

[2:35:03] that's addressed each year in

[2:35:07] preparation for the budget we

[2:35:08] have to have a first reading by

[2:35:09] APRIL 14th so we work with our

[2:35:09] city's departments,

[2:35:14] the personnel department, risk

[2:35:15] management Department of I.T

[2:35:15] and we get all that information

[2:35:16] in preparation for the fiscal

[2:35:19] year And so it's multifaceted

[2:35:20] but we work from JANUARY

[2:35:21] through APRIL and the changes

[2:35:27] that happen as changes happen

[2:35:27] daily depending on we're out

[2:35:28] with negotiations in the like

[2:35:29] two weeks leading up to

[2:35:32] the beginning of the year is

[2:35:32] when you guys started it was

[2:35:33] this after the mayor's state of

[2:35:38] the city or during around

[2:35:38] the same time as the state of

[2:35:43] the city Yet during.

[2:35:44] Okay Thank you Thank you for

[2:35:44] Councilmember Campbell for

[2:35:50] bringing updates because this

[2:35:50] action proposes a car allowance

[2:35:51] for the mayor's dco and other

[2:35:55] staff while at the same time

[2:35:56] the city is cutting funding for

[2:35:57] arts and culture.

[2:36:01] Now I do understand that while

[2:36:02] the savings from eliminating

[2:36:02] these car allowances alone

[2:36:03] would not fully restore arts

[2:36:07] funding, the optics are deeply

[2:36:08] concerning deeply concerning to

[2:36:13] me it sends the wrong message

[2:36:13] to provide perks for top

[2:36:19] officials while residents in my

[2:36:20] district will feel the impact

[2:36:20] of reduced investment in their

[2:36:24] community.

[2:36:25] This was first heard in APRIL

[2:36:31] and I think that gave plenty of

[2:36:31] opportunity for this

[2:36:36] administration to take out

[2:36:42] the line item that states

[2:36:42] adding that assistant of

[2:36:43] the city manager, deputy chief

[2:36:48] of staff and chief Financial

[2:36:48] Officer for officer

[2:36:52] classification Sorry I'm

[2:36:53] reading the wrong one adding

[2:36:53] the assistant dco and assistant

[2:36:54] to the city Manager Deputy

[2:36:58] Chief of Staff Classification

[2:36:59] to exhibit f Auto Allowance I

[2:37:05] just I can't believe you know

[2:37:06] we're being told that we're at

[2:37:11] the word we have to pass it.

[2:37:11] This is we have to make this we

[2:37:12] have to finish this.

[2:37:16] We have to complete this year.

[2:37:16] Procrastination is not my

[2:37:17] emergency.

[2:37:21] I want to state that very

[2:37:22] clear.

[2:37:22] We're talking serious talk

[2:37:27] The mayor has proposed very

[2:37:28] deep cuts in my district while

[2:37:29] at the same time adding a car

[2:37:33] allowance to one of his top

[2:37:34] chiefs.

[2:37:34] I'm not going to be supporting

[2:37:39] this before us and I hope that

[2:37:40] and this is not the first time

[2:37:41] this administration doesn't

[2:37:44] listen to what this council is

[2:37:45] saying or the second or

[2:37:45] the third.

[2:37:45] And I want to make a

[2:37:46] distinction.

[2:37:47] I want to put a line in

[2:37:50] the sand so that the residents

[2:37:50] of the city of San Diego

[2:37:51] understand very clearly what is

[2:37:55] happening not only with this

[2:37:56] budget but with a lot of things

[2:37:57] happening here at City hall.

[2:37:58] So I will be registering a no

[2:38:02] vote.

[2:38:03] All right.

[2:38:03] Thank you, Council member Reno.

[2:38:07] I don't see anyone else on

[2:38:08] the lights I motion I made

[2:38:09] the motion to move the staff

[2:38:14] recommendation as 5 or 4.

[2:38:15] We have a second by council

[2:38:19] member Campbell and please call

[2:38:19] the I sorry the voting system

[2:38:24] Please cast your vote.

[2:38:33] The that passes 5 to 2 with

[2:38:34] Councilmember Moreno and

[2:38:35] Councilmember Fuster voting no

[2:38:35] and Council regular Rivera

[2:38:38] Council member of until absent

[2:38:39] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:38:39] right thank you to the clerk So

[2:38:43] that does pass with five yes

[2:38:44] votes and I appreciate

[2:38:48] everybody's candor in

[2:38:49] communicating to the mayor's

[2:38:50] office where their levels of

[2:38:55] concern exist as we did last

[2:38:55] week.

[2:38:56] We'll look forward to this

[2:39:00] coming back and also part of

[2:39:01] the budget conversation as well

[2:39:02] which is what we do before we

[2:39:07] do the appropriations and

[2:39:07] therefore what we do before

[2:39:08] salaries.

[2:39:08] So with that clerk please

[2:39:12] introduce item 331.

[2:39:13] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[2:39:13] Item 331 is the appeal of

[2:39:14] development permit Coastal

[2:39:17] development permit and

[2:39:22] tentative map project number

[2:39:23] 1085883 through regarding 8303

[2:39:23] La Hoya Shores Drive This item

[2:39:29] is not subject to the mayor's

[2:39:29] veto.

[2:39:30] If you'd like to speak to this

[2:39:31] item now's the time to raise

[2:39:34] your hand or press star nine if

[2:39:34] you are in the virtual queue

[2:39:35] and if you were here in council

[2:39:36] chambers please be sure to

[2:39:39] submit a speaker slip to

[2:39:40] the front of the room in

[2:39:40] the clear box.

[2:39:41] >> Thank you.

[2:39:45] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[2:39:46] >> Thank you.

[2:39:47] So for those of you who have

[2:39:51] not been at a quiet judicial

[2:39:51] hearing especially in

[2:39:52] particular in particular appeal

[2:39:57] hearing the way to run a show

[2:39:58] will go is that staff will make

[2:39:58] their presentation.

[2:40:02] We will then invite

[2:40:03] the appellant to make their

[2:40:04] presentation and then

[2:40:09] the applicant will be invited

[2:40:09] to make their presentation.

[2:40:14] After that we will open it up

[2:40:15] for any other public comment

[2:40:16] that might be interested in

[2:40:20] speaking and then from there we

[2:40:21] will turn it over to council

[2:40:25] members for questions comments

[2:40:26] and to entertain a motion.

[2:40:27] So with that staff please

[2:40:27] introduce yourself for

[2:40:33] the record and let us know how

[2:40:33] much time you need for your

[2:40:34] presentation.

[2:40:34] >> Good afternoon.

[2:40:39] I'm Veronica De Nissan, project

[2:40:39] manager with the Development

[2:40:40] Services Department And I

[2:40:41] wanted 20 minutes please.

[2:40:41] All right.

[2:40:44] Begin when you're ready.

[2:40:45] >> Good afternoon, Council

[2:40:50] PRESIDENT Like other council

[2:40:51] members and members of

[2:40:51] the public.

[2:40:52] The item before you is the 83

[2:40:57] or 3 Thrive project Appeal Page

[2:41:02] 1085883.

[2:41:03] >> The project site is 4.45

[2:41:03] acres and is located in

[2:41:08] the larger resource plan

[2:41:09] District Single Family zone

[2:41:10] the coastal zone and

[2:41:13] the quarter height limit

[2:41:14] overlay zone within the La Hoya

[2:41:15] Community Plan.

[2:41:15] The site is previously

[2:41:20] developed with an existing 5958

[2:41:21] square foot single dwelling

[2:41:26] unit and an attached garage.

[2:41:27] >> The project site is located

[2:41:27] within an urbanized area

[2:41:32] approximately half a mile

[2:41:33] eastern Pacific Ocean and is

[2:41:33] now between the first public

[2:41:34] roadway and the ocean.

[2:41:39] The site is currently

[2:41:40] accessible via the private coda

[2:41:41] connecting westward to

[2:41:45] the shore drive.

[2:41:45] The project site does not

[2:41:46] contain any sensitive

[2:41:47] biological resources or special

[2:41:50] flood hazard areas.

[2:41:55] The project includes

[2:41:56] consolidating three parcels

[2:41:57] into a single lot for its

[2:42:00] subdivision into six

[2:42:00] residential lots with common

[2:42:01] access to the public right of

[2:42:01] way.

[2:42:07] Demolition of the existing

[2:42:08] single dwelling unit and

[2:42:08] garage.

[2:42:09] Construction of a single

[2:42:10] dwelling unit at each new lodge

[2:42:13] plus an accessory dwelling unit

[2:42:14] on not six only for a total of

[2:42:14] seven dwelling units.

[2:42:19] In addition, the project

[2:42:20] includes underground drainage

[2:42:21] and sewer improvements on first

[2:42:25] quarter connecting to public

[2:42:25] resistance along the La Hoya

[2:42:31] short Drive at.

[2:42:31] As previously noted,

[2:42:32] the project site comprises

[2:42:32] three parcels.

[2:42:36] Parcel one is developed with a

[2:42:37] single dwelling unit and an

[2:42:37] attached garage proposed for

[2:42:38] demolition.

[2:42:42] The existing structure is older

[2:42:43] than 45 years and supports

[2:42:48] historic evaluation.

[2:42:48] City staff determined that

[2:42:49] the property does not meet

[2:42:50] the local designation criteria

[2:42:53] as an individually significant

[2:42:54] historic resource.

[2:42:57] However, Oscoda shown in yellow

[2:42:58] is a 60 foot wide strip of land

[2:42:59] identified as a shared easement

[2:43:00] in the original deed recorded

[2:43:07] in 1949.

[2:43:08] >> The proposed subdivision

[2:43:09] would result in six numbered

[2:43:12] residential lots and one letter

[2:43:13] not designated as a private

[2:43:13] access road to the north.

[2:43:18] The project involves

[2:43:18] the construction of a single

[2:43:22] dwelling unit at each new large

[2:43:27] ranging from 11,739 to 6000

[2:43:28] 16,270ft with pool facilities

[2:43:29] and landscape related

[2:43:29] improvements.

[2:43:34] Lot six would also include an

[2:43:35] accessory dwelling unit and

[2:43:38] have clear access to the first

[2:43:38] quarter.

[2:43:39] City staff reviewed and

[2:43:43] accepted technical study for

[2:43:44] the project which concluded

[2:43:44] that the site is suitable for

[2:43:45] the proposed development.

[2:43:49] In addition, a preliminary

[2:43:50] drainage study prepared for

[2:43:51] the project complies with

[2:43:55] current stormwater regulations

[2:43:55] .

[2:43:56] All improvements are subject to

[2:43:56] the approval of the city

[2:43:57] engineer at the time of

[2:44:01] the construction permit.

[2:44:06] >> The project is surrounded by

[2:44:07] one and two stories single

[2:44:08] units with site amenities

[2:44:08] including tennis courts and

[2:44:09] swimming pools.

[2:44:13] The project aligns with

[2:44:14] the community character of

[2:44:14] the surrounding neighborhood

[2:44:15] and is consistent with

[2:44:18] the average development

[2:44:19] patterns within a 300 foot

[2:44:20] radius of the project site.

[2:44:21] As required by the La Hoya

[2:44:24] Schwartz Plan District

[2:44:25] Ordinance, the project complies

[2:44:25] with all the development

[2:44:31] standards required by the b

[2:44:32] zone including density building

[2:44:33] setback floor area ratio not

[2:44:37] coverage and the 30 foot

[2:44:37] maximum structural height

[2:44:38] allowed in the coastal

[2:44:42] limitation overlay zone.

[2:44:43] >> The required approval a

[2:44:48] process for tentative map for a

[2:44:49] land population creating five

[2:44:50] or more parcels a process three

[2:44:55] site apartment permit for

[2:44:55] the development of a major

[2:44:56] project in the La Hoya Resource

[2:45:00] Plan District a process to

[2:45:00] coastal development permit for

[2:45:01] the increase in density and

[2:45:02] demolition of an existing

[2:45:05] single dwelling unit.

[2:45:06] The project includes an

[2:45:07] addendum to program

[2:45:12] Environmental Impact Report pr

[2:45:13] number 920199 for the La Hoya

[2:45:14] and Pacific Beach Community

[2:45:18] Plan and local Coastal Program

[2:45:19] Land Use Plan updates prepared

[2:45:20] in accordance with 30 islands.

[2:45:24] These consolidated approvals

[2:45:25] were presented to the Planning

[2:45:26] Commission on DECEMBER 4th,

[2:45:26] 2025.

[2:45:31] The Planning Commission voted

[2:45:31] five zero to to approve

[2:45:32] the project and adopt addendum

[2:45:36] to p r number 920199 on

[2:45:42] DECEMBER 17th, 2025 an appeal

[2:45:42] was filed by Kenneth Jones of

[2:45:43] Fletcher Max llp.

[2:45:49] Representing Arthur in

[2:45:49] the Cabinet cite citing factual

[2:45:50] error conflicts with other

[2:45:53] matters and findings not

[2:45:54] supported of grounds for

[2:45:54] appeal.

[2:45:59] Legal standard for appeal.

[2:46:03] Pursuant to Civil Code Section

[2:46:04] 1120508c An appeal of a process

[2:46:05] for decision MAY be granted

[2:46:10] with evidence supporting one of

[2:46:10] the following grounds for

[2:46:11] appeal factual error When

[2:46:16] the statements or evidence

[2:46:16] relied upon by the decision

[2:46:17] maker when approving

[2:46:17] conditionally approving or

[2:46:22] denying a permit map or other

[2:46:23] matter where inaccurate new

[2:46:23] information when new

[2:46:28] information is available to

[2:46:29] the applicant or the interested

[2:46:29] person that was not available

[2:46:30] through that person's

[2:46:34] reasonable efforts or due

[2:46:35] diligence at the time of

[2:46:35] the decision.

[2:46:40] Findings that supported when

[2:46:40] the decision maker stated

[2:46:41] findings to approve

[2:46:41] conditionally approve or deny

[2:46:46] the permit map or other matter

[2:46:47] are not supported by

[2:46:48] the information provided to

[2:46:52] the decision maker.

[2:46:53] Conflicts when the decision to

[2:46:53] approve or conditionally

[2:46:54] approve or deny the permit map

[2:46:58] or other matter is in conflict

[2:46:59] with a land use plan issued

[2:47:04] council policy or the municipal

[2:47:04] code or city what significance

[2:47:05] when the matter being appealed

[2:47:10] is a citywide significance

[2:47:15] appeal issue number one

[2:47:15] unresolved easement in

[2:47:16] the right of way consent is

[2:47:21] required before utilities are

[2:47:21] installed within this private

[2:47:22] right of way and any reliance

[2:47:23] on easement language concerning

[2:47:27] public utilities does not

[2:47:28] authorize private drainage and

[2:47:29] sewer facilities serving a

[2:47:33] single development without

[2:47:33] owner approval.

[2:47:34] The claimed easement its scope

[2:47:35] and any required consents must

[2:47:39] be completed in resolved prior

[2:47:40] to city approval Staff response

[2:47:46] to appeal Issue number one

[2:47:46] The disposition is that

[2:47:47] the applicant MAY construct

[2:47:51] the proposed underground

[2:47:51] drainage and sewer improvements

[2:47:52] within the first quarter

[2:47:53] because of the original grant

[2:48:01] deed document number 43967

[2:48:02] recorded in MAY 18th 1949

[2:48:03] states that the 60 foot wide

[2:48:08] strip of land or parcel is to

[2:48:09] be used for road and street

[2:48:09] purposes and for

[2:48:10] the installation repair and

[2:48:14] replacement of public

[2:48:14] utilities.

[2:48:15] The proposed improvements are

[2:48:16] designed to connect the subject

[2:48:20] property to an approved public

[2:48:21] utility system and public

[2:48:26] drainage system Installation of

[2:48:26] private utility laterals within

[2:48:27] private roadways and utility

[2:48:32] easements is a customary and

[2:48:32] accepted practice for

[2:48:33] the improvements are

[2:48:34] constructed in accordance with

[2:48:38] city standards and did not

[2:48:38] unreasonably interfere with

[2:48:39] existing access or utility

[2:48:44] rights.

[2:48:45] The extent of the improvements

[2:48:45] would not interfere with

[2:48:46] existing access or utility

[2:48:50] rights since it would not

[2:48:51] encumber a significant portion

[2:48:51] of the easement.

[2:48:52] The city, in reviewing

[2:48:55] the original granted and

[2:48:56] the project determined that

[2:48:57] the proposed improvements fall

[2:48:57] within the scope of

[2:49:02] the recorded easement and

[2:49:02] comply with applicable

[2:49:03] regulations.

[2:49:04] The project permit includes

[2:49:08] conditions of approval to

[2:49:08] ensure conformance with

[2:49:09] the current version of

[2:49:10] the Stormwater Standards Manual

[2:49:13] and drainage design Manual.

[2:49:14] The city does not interfere

[2:49:17] with third party disputes over

[2:49:24] the use of private easements.

[2:49:24] Population number two right of

[2:49:25] way scope public utilities

[2:49:30] versus private improvements.

[2:49:30] The right of way as

[2:49:31] characterized by the applicant

[2:49:36] allows use for road and street

[2:49:37] purposes and for

[2:49:37] the installation repair and

[2:49:38] replacement of public

[2:49:38] utilities.

[2:49:42] The projects drainage and sewer

[2:49:42] improvements are private

[2:49:43] serving the project rather than

[2:49:47] constituting public utility

[2:49:48] infrastructure and that exceeds

[2:49:49] the scope of any easements

[2:49:54] permitting public utilities.

[2:49:55] City approval should not rely

[2:49:55] on private works shoehorned

[2:49:59] into public utility easement

[2:50:00] language without a clear legal

[2:50:01] basis and documented consent

[2:50:06] from all necessary parties.

[2:50:07] Staff response to Appeal Issue

[2:50:11] number two As stated before

[2:50:11] the will be determined

[2:50:12] the construction of the storm

[2:50:16] water and sewer improvements is

[2:50:17] permitted based on the language

[2:50:18] in the original granted for

[2:50:22] the easement and what is

[2:50:23] customary practice for private

[2:50:24] Internet infrastructure being

[2:50:24] tied into public systems.

[2:50:28] The appellant interprets

[2:50:29] the term public utility as

[2:50:34] requiring that all facilities

[2:50:34] within the easement be publicly

[2:50:35] owned or operated Private sewer

[2:50:40] laterals, drainage conditions

[2:50:40] and similar facilities that

[2:50:41] serve individual properties by

[2:50:46] connecting to a public utility

[2:50:46] system are allowed within

[2:50:47] utility easements.

[2:50:47] The proposed stormwater

[2:50:52] facility is considered utility

[2:50:52] infrastructure that connects to

[2:50:57] and relies upon a public system

[2:50:58] for discharge via a curb

[2:50:58] outlet.

[2:50:59] The proposed sewer lateral is

[2:51:03] designed to connect to

[2:51:04] the public through Remain via

[2:51:05] an existing public sewer

[2:51:08] easement within four quarters.

[2:51:08] Population number three.

[2:51:13] Ownership and authority within

[2:51:14] the private right of way

[2:51:14] The right of way parcel is

[2:51:19] privately owned and undivided

[2:51:20] fee by five core owners

[2:51:20] including the applicant and

[2:51:21] there is no recorded easement

[2:51:25] bordering that parcel in favor

[2:51:26] of the project's proposed

[2:51:27] private stormwater discharge or

[2:51:31] the other owners interests.

[2:51:31] The applicant lacks a written

[2:51:32] consent from the other owners

[2:51:37] for such use.

[2:51:37] This raises fundamental

[2:51:38] authority and access concerns

[2:51:39] that should be resolved before

[2:51:43] any city approval dependent on

[2:51:44] the use of the private right of

[2:51:48] way.

[2:51:49] Staff Responds to Appeal Issue

[2:51:50] number three.

[2:51:50] The city's review of

[2:51:55] the original granting lady to

[2:51:55] determine that the right to

[2:51:56] allow construction of

[2:51:59] the stormwater infrastructure

[2:52:00] and sewer lines are permitted

[2:52:01] based on the easement language

[2:52:05] And because they both tie into

[2:52:06] public systems.

[2:52:07] These improvements comply with

[2:52:11] applicable regulations.

[2:52:12] The city does not interfere

[2:52:12] with third party disputes over

[2:52:17] the use of private easements.

[2:52:18] Appeal Issue number four.

[2:52:18] Drainage system concerns

[2:52:23] requiring commission direction

[2:52:24] In addition to the easement and

[2:52:25] authority issues above our

[2:52:29] clients request that

[2:52:30] the Commission ensure

[2:52:30] the following issues are

[2:52:31] addressed to the city

[2:52:32] satisfaction and reflected as

[2:52:35] enforceable conditions of

[2:52:35] approval.

[2:52:36] 4.1.

[2:52:40] Disruption during construction

[2:52:40] .

[2:52:41] 4.2.

[2:52:41] Maintenance Responsibilities.

[2:52:45] 4.3 Potential Drainage Problems

[2:52:46] and downstream impacts.

[2:52:50] 4.4 Risk of backup at a 12 inch

[2:52:50] pipe outlet.

[2:52:54] 4.5 Hedge replacement and

[2:53:00] surface restoration.

[2:53:00] Staff Response to Appeal Issue

[2:53:01] number 4.1.

[2:53:05] Disruption during construction

[2:53:05] .

[2:53:05] Austerity policies regarding

[2:53:06] Construction Act venues

[2:53:11] including emergency access and

[2:53:11] ingress and egress issues.

[2:53:12] Hours of operation and noise

[2:53:17] control that will be required

[2:53:18] as part of the ministerial

[2:53:18] review process and will be

[2:53:19] verified to the satisfaction of

[2:53:22] the city engineer.

[2:53:23] The project is subject to

[2:53:24] temporary construction best

[2:53:24] management practices for

[2:53:27] stormwater standards,

[2:53:28] construction work hours of

[2:53:29] operation and noise regulation

[2:53:33] are applicable.

[2:53:34] Fire safety and access during

[2:53:34] construction are required for

[2:53:38] sending a pharmacy standard a7.

[2:53:39] The project is also subject to

[2:53:39] street damage repair to

[2:53:44] existing pavement from

[2:53:44] excavation work determined by

[2:53:45] the city engineer.

[2:53:49] Staff response to Appeal Issue

[2:53:50] 4.2.

[2:53:50] Maintenance Responsibilities.

[2:53:55] Permit Conditions required.

[2:53:55] Stormwater Mitigation and

[2:53:56] Discharge Control Management

[2:53:57] Plan to the satisfaction of

[2:54:01] the City Engineer as an

[2:54:01] encroachment Maintenance and

[2:54:02] removal agreement will be

[2:54:03] required for the proposed

[2:54:07] private storm drain right of

[2:54:08] way encroachment into the La

[2:54:08] Hoya Schwartz Drive Curb outlet

[2:54:09] discharge.

[2:54:12] Indemnification and insurance

[2:54:12] between property owners is a

[2:54:13] third party matter not enforced

[2:54:17] by the city.

[2:54:18] Staff response to Appeal Issue

[2:54:22] number 4.3 Potential drainage

[2:54:23] Problems and downstream

[2:54:23] Impacts.

[2:54:28] A drainage study for

[2:54:29] the proposed project includes

[2:54:29] peak flow attenuation details.

[2:54:33] The project is required to

[2:54:33] mitigate developed condition

[2:54:34] peak flows to levels below pre

[2:54:38] developed conditions to

[2:54:39] the satisfaction of the city

[2:54:39] engineer.

[2:54:40] Runoff will be fully contained

[2:54:44] in the proposed storm drain

[2:54:45] system and the corresponding

[2:54:46] phasing will be determined

[2:54:49] through a hydraulic analysis to

[2:54:50] ensure the proposed development

[2:54:51] does not cause flooding of

[2:54:51] surrounding properties to

[2:54:55] the satisfaction of the city

[2:54:56] engineer.

[2:54:56] The proposed storm drain will

[2:54:57] discharge directly to the curb

[2:55:01] line in De La Hoya Shores right

[2:55:02] via a proposed curb alert

[2:55:05] system.

[2:55:10] Staff response to Appeal Issue

[2:55:10] number 4.4.

[2:55:11] Risk of backup at the 12 inch

[2:55:15] btc outlets.

[2:55:16] >> Permit conditions require an

[2:55:16] encroachment maintenance and

[2:55:17] removal agreement including

[2:55:21] specifications to prevent

[2:55:21] potential clogging or back up

[2:55:22] of the curb outlet discharge or

[2:55:25] other potential clogging

[2:55:26] impacts associated with

[2:55:27] the proposed private storm

[2:55:27] drain.

[2:55:28] This agreement will be subject

[2:55:30] to review by the city The city

[2:55:35] engineer.

[2:55:36] Staff Responsibility Number 4.5

[2:55:37] Hedge replacement and surface

[2:55:41] restoration in all graded

[2:55:42] disturbed or eroded areas that

[2:55:46] will not be permanently paved

[2:55:47] or covered by structures shall

[2:55:47] be permanently revegetated and

[2:55:48] irrigated.

[2:55:52] Updated landscape condition

[2:55:53] number 26 required complete

[2:55:53] construction documents for

[2:55:57] the premeditation and hydro

[2:55:58] sealing of all disturbed land

[2:55:59] in accordance with the city of

[2:55:59] San Diego Landscape standards.

[2:56:03] The stormwater defined manner

[2:56:04] and to the satisfaction of

[2:56:04] the city and the Development

[2:56:08] Services Department.

[2:56:14] Staff Recommendation.

[2:56:14] >> Staff has reviewed

[2:56:15] the proposal and concluded that

[2:56:16] the improvements are consistent

[2:56:19] with the purpose and intent of

[2:56:19] the recorded easement and

[2:56:20] the applicant's rights to

[2:56:21] the easement.

[2:56:24] Further, the project is

[2:56:25] conditioned to comply with all

[2:56:25] standard city policies and

[2:56:28] regulations for construction

[2:56:29] access and maintenance.

[2:56:30] Staff recommends that

[2:56:30] the Council deny the appeal and

[2:56:34] affirm the Planning

[2:56:34] Commission's decision to

[2:56:35] approve with modifications.

[2:56:38] Coastal Development permit

[2:56:39] number 3213964 Site Development

[2:56:43] Permit Number 3213965.

[2:56:48] Tentative map number 3213966 In

[2:56:51] adopting addendum number

[2:56:56] 21285883 to be r number 912199

[2:56:56] The intention to the staff and

[2:57:00] the applicant team are

[2:57:01] available for questions.

[2:57:06] Thank you.

[2:57:11] I have I'm sorry.

[2:57:11] >> Staff has advised for

[2:57:15] conditions and provided to new

[2:57:16] conditions that will as

[2:57:16] follows.

[2:57:31] Oh yeah.

[2:57:31] Copies of these conditions have

[2:57:36] been provided in hard copy.

[2:57:41] The there is engineering

[2:57:42] condition number 25 addressing

[2:57:42] requirements of the drainage

[2:57:46] study to landscape conditions

[2:57:51] addressing requirements of

[2:57:52] the replacement of the existing

[2:57:56] hedges where needed to public

[2:57:57] utilities conditions to address

[2:58:01] sewer facility requirements and

[2:58:02] one one tentative map condition

[2:58:06] and requiring drainage and

[2:58:07] sewer improvements to comply

[2:58:08] with the California Civil Code

[2:58:08] requirements.

[2:58:12] Thank you.

[2:58:12] >> All right.

[2:58:13] Thank you.

[2:58:13] Now that concludes your

[2:58:14] presentation.

[2:58:16] Right.

[2:58:17] >> This concludes my

[2:58:17] presentation.

[2:58:18] Thank you.

[2:58:18] Okay.

[2:58:18] Thank you.

[2:58:19] Before I turn over to

[2:58:22] the appellant, I'll turn it

[2:58:23] over to the Officer city

[2:58:23] attorney for comment.

[2:58:24] >> Thank you.

[2:58:26] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:58:27] When hearing and deciding upon

[2:58:28] a project appeal the Council

[2:58:32] MAY affirm reverse or modify

[2:58:33] the Planning Commission's

[2:58:36] decision a decision to reverse

[2:58:37] or modify the Planning

[2:58:38] Commission's decision must be

[2:58:38] based on one or more of

[2:58:42] the following factual error New

[2:58:43] information findings that are

[2:58:47] not supported conflict with

[2:58:48] the Land Use Plan Council

[2:58:48] policy or the municipal Code or

[2:58:52] citywide significance.

[2:58:53] A court will uphold

[2:58:54] the Council's decision if it is

[2:58:57] supported by substantial

[2:58:58] evidence in the record.

[2:58:58] Thank you.

[2:58:59] That concludes my comments.

[2:59:02] All right.

[2:59:03] Thank you for that reminder as

[2:59:03] we do these appeals.

[2:59:07] So now I will turn it over to

[2:59:12] the appellate for the project.

[2:59:13] >> Well, you I think you've

[2:59:15] been advised you'll have 15

[2:59:16] minutes if you could introduce

[2:59:17] yourself for the record and

[2:59:21] begin when you're ready.

[2:59:21] >> Good afternoon, Council

[2:59:22] PRESIDENT.

[2:59:22] Council members.

[2:59:26] My name is Anna Ludtke and I am

[2:59:27] from the law firm of Higgs

[2:59:27] Fletcher and Mack I am here

[2:59:31] today on behalf of DR. And MRS.

[2:59:35] Cavanaugh who live at 80 to 75

[2:59:36] La Hoya Drive and are

[2:59:36] downstream neighbors of

[2:59:40] the proposed project.

[2:59:41] The Cavanaugh's timely filed a

[2:59:41] project appeal after

[2:59:45] the planning Commission

[2:59:45] approved the permits on

[2:59:46] DECEMBER 4th, 2025.

[2:59:47] The appeal challenges

[2:59:50] the planning Commission

[2:59:51] findings on drainage adequacy

[2:59:51] An applicant's legal authority

[2:59:55] with respect to the private

[2:59:56] roadway higher first quarter

[2:59:59] Through this appeal process I

[3:00:00] have discussed these issues

[3:00:00] with neighboring property

[3:00:05] owners who also have concerns

[3:00:05] about the project and we are

[3:00:06] here today.

[3:00:10] I am here today to respectfully

[3:00:11] request a short continuance of

[3:00:11] this hearing so that we MAY

[3:00:15] further study and review

[3:00:16] the new and modified project

[3:00:20] conditions and also continue

[3:00:21] our discussions with

[3:00:21] the project applicant.

[3:00:22] Prior to this hearing we were

[3:00:25] in discussions with them on

[3:00:26] some modifications to

[3:00:33] the conditions of approval that

[3:00:33] you asked the applicant.

[3:00:38] >> I have not asked

[3:00:39] the applicant for a continuance

[3:00:43] yet know it's a little

[3:00:43] difficult because I think there

[3:00:44] are some people here that are

[3:00:45] not connected with you know,

[3:00:47] the appellant or the applicant

[3:00:47] who came down here in good

[3:00:48] faith.

[3:00:52] The council is ready.

[3:00:53] What I will give you is kind of

[3:00:56] a half response is

[3:01:01] the applicant also has a 15

[3:01:02] minute presentation.

[3:01:05] I don't know if 15 minutes is

[3:01:05] going to be enough for you to

[3:01:09] confer with them and or staff

[3:01:10] with this very lengthy and very

[3:01:14] small print modification to

[3:01:15] the conditions.

[3:01:18] But why don't you go through

[3:01:19] that and see where you land and

[3:01:20] see if there's any comfort

[3:01:20] level there?

[3:01:24] I know that's a lot to ask of

[3:01:25] you but I think you can

[3:01:25] understand docketing These

[3:01:29] items don't come easy And again

[3:01:29] there's other people that I

[3:01:30] want to extend a courtesy to

[3:01:33] them for showing up here with

[3:01:34] their own issues which MAY be

[3:01:34] different.

[3:01:35] So do you want to run through

[3:01:39] your presentation in any way or

[3:01:42] do you want to use that time to

[3:01:47] confer with the applicant?

[3:01:48] If I elect to take a few

[3:01:49] minutes to confer with

[3:01:53] the applicant if they do not

[3:01:53] agree MAY I come back and

[3:01:54] complete my presentation?

[3:01:54] Yes.

[3:01:57] We extend the courtesy of

[3:01:58] having you go first but yes at

[3:02:01] your request you can certainly

[3:02:01] do a second.

[3:02:02] Okay?

[3:02:02] Okay.

[3:02:05] All right.

[3:02:06] Yeah.

[3:02:07] I'm putting you in a tough spot

[3:02:07] so I understand that.

[3:02:11] I appreciate that.

[3:02:12] I'm trying to navigate running

[3:02:12] the meeting.

[3:02:13] So is any member of

[3:02:16] the applicant willing to I

[3:02:17] shouldn't put words in your

[3:02:20] mouth but to sit down with her

[3:02:21] and work through the changes

[3:02:23] You have a copy of them?

[3:02:23] Yeah.

[3:02:32] Yeah, I do.

[3:02:33] Good.

[3:02:38] After Good afternoon, Counsel.

[3:02:39] This is Sandra Slavin On behalf

[3:02:42] of the applicant we have

[3:02:43] reviewed the conditions that

[3:02:43] staff has provided and we're in

[3:02:47] agreement with them and we

[3:02:47] believe they more than address

[3:02:48] the issues that were raised

[3:02:51] both in the PowerPoint and

[3:02:52] the letters we've received thus

[3:02:52] far.

[3:02:53] Therefore we're asking that

[3:02:57] the hearing continue.

[3:02:57] Okay.

[3:02:58] We weren't asking you that

[3:02:58] question.

[3:02:59] What we were asking whether you

[3:03:02] would be willing to talk with

[3:03:02] the appellants representative

[3:03:06] about the conditions that you

[3:03:07] MAY or MAY not agree with them.

[3:03:15] But I think what I'll I mean I

[3:03:15] don't expect we have a few

[3:03:16] minutes please.

[3:03:16] Yeah.

[3:03:18] So what I'm going to do is I'm

[3:03:19] going to go to the rest of

[3:03:20] the public and take their

[3:03:30] testimony for the public I have

[3:03:34] of Bernard Siegel.

[3:03:38] Bernard Siegel, are you here if

[3:03:43] you'd like to come up to speak

[3:03:44] after Bernard Siegel I have

[3:03:49] Michael Feinstein Would it be

[3:03:49] permissible or have been

[3:03:50] changed to speak first?

[3:03:53] Lynne Shank Sure.

[3:03:54] Lynne Shenk You have time ceded

[3:03:57] to you by Kyle Alderman if you

[3:03:58] can please raise your hand and

[3:04:10] by John Doe many thank you.

[3:04:11] How much time I think MR.

[3:04:15] Domini seated his time to MR.

[3:04:19] Siegel I have here John Dominy

[3:04:20] and Kyle Alderman both ceded

[3:04:24] their time to you.

[3:04:24] Lynch Okay.

[3:04:27] And then you will be having

[3:04:32] three, four, three, 4.5

[3:04:32] minutes.

[3:04:33] It's going to be a minute and a

[3:04:35] half for each person So you'll

[3:04:36] have 4.5 minutes.

[3:04:36] All right.

[3:04:41] Well, thank you, PRESIDENT

[3:04:41] LaCava and members of the City

[3:04:42] Council.

[3:04:42] My name is Lynn Shank.

[3:04:46] I reside at 2446 Valla Zito's

[3:04:50] Court in in La Hoya.

[3:04:51] Let me just start by saying

[3:04:51] that my attorney Robin

[3:04:55] Modafferi who was going to be

[3:04:56] here I just learned a few hours

[3:04:59] ago is quite ill and for that

[3:05:00] reason and others I would

[3:05:04] support the continuance request

[3:05:05] so that we could have her here.

[3:05:09] But if not I will go on with my

[3:05:14] remarks if that's okay.

[3:05:14] Uh, frankly I haven't been in

[3:05:18] this council chamber since

[3:05:19] the late 80s when I was

[3:05:20] appointed to the Port

[3:05:20] Commission by a previous

[3:05:24] council and never thought I'd

[3:05:24] be here again.

[3:05:28] But this project is of such

[3:05:31] magnitude the whole project

[3:05:32] entire four and a half acres

[3:05:33] and the six McMansions that are

[3:05:37] being proposed have such an

[3:05:37] impact on my life that I.

[3:05:38] i had to show up.

[3:05:42] Yes this project is in La Hoya

[3:05:46] but but the incompatible

[3:05:47] construction that impacts

[3:05:48] the lives of neighbors can

[3:05:52] happen in any neighborhood in

[3:05:52] any district.

[3:05:56] My property is immediately

[3:05:57] contiguous to the project

[3:06:01] separated only by a chain link

[3:06:01] fence.

[3:06:02] There's no alley there, no

[3:06:02] roads, nothing.

[3:06:06] It's just one continuous piece

[3:06:06] of land.

[3:06:11] The plan is to build six very

[3:06:12] large homes two of them

[3:06:15] immediately abutting my home

[3:06:19] and they will be three maybe

[3:06:20] four times the size of my house

[3:06:21] within ten feet of my house.

[3:06:24] Now I'm five seven and I don't

[3:06:25] know adding a few feet here

[3:06:28] above my hand That's

[3:06:29] the distance from these very

[3:06:34] large homes to to mine Uh, I'm

[3:06:34] not here to ask you to to kill

[3:06:35] this project.

[3:06:39] I'm here to ask you to either

[3:06:39] grant the continuance or to

[3:06:42] delay approval so that we can

[3:06:43] work in a very real neighborly

[3:06:44] and good faith manner to come

[3:06:47] up with mitigation measures.

[3:06:48] I didn't appear before

[3:06:53] the planning Commission.

[3:06:54] Well, first my my daughter my

[3:06:58] stepdaughter died just a couple

[3:06:59] of weeks before But also we had

[3:07:03] a we thought my attorney and I

[3:07:04] that we had come up with some

[3:07:08] agreements with the owners of

[3:07:09] Lot three and we relied on that

[3:07:12] in good faith.

[3:07:13] But I'm here to tell you say

[3:07:13] that from that moment on they

[3:07:18] have not acted in good faith

[3:07:18] Their applicants lawyers

[3:07:21] applicant of the project have

[3:07:22] have delayed and generally

[3:07:23] ignored entreaties by my lawyer

[3:07:27] to reduce our agreement to

[3:07:28] writing their lawyer as they

[3:07:33] delayed it didn't return calls

[3:07:33] and in fact finally called her

[3:07:37] when the notice of this hearing

[3:07:37] finally came out that's when he

[3:07:38] called her.

[3:07:41] But that's been the tenor of

[3:07:42] this saga.

[3:07:42] It's been cloaked in secrecy,

[3:07:46] lack of transparency and devoid

[3:07:47] of a fair process.

[3:07:47] We've tried to find out who

[3:07:51] the owners are of these six

[3:07:52] slots who's going to be our

[3:07:52] neighbors.

[3:07:55] One must wonder about this

[3:07:59] secrecy Who are the unknown

[3:08:00] Three out-of-state owners that

[3:08:00] the u-t referred to when they

[3:08:04] wrote about this project?

[3:08:05] I have no idea who's going to

[3:08:06] be my neighbors Who who do I

[3:08:06] talk to?

[3:08:09] It took over a year to learn

[3:08:10] about one neighbor.

[3:08:10] We met the Senate.

[3:08:14] Very nice people refused to

[3:08:15] tell us who the other owners

[3:08:19] were a couple of years later

[3:08:20] meaning a few months ago I met

[3:08:23] with the owners of Lot three

[3:08:23] that does abut my house again

[3:08:24] very nice people.

[3:08:27] I thought we had an agreement

[3:08:32] but not nothing a lot for and I

[3:08:32] have passed out this lot lot

[3:08:37] for will immediately but my my

[3:08:41] home and the way it is designed

[3:08:42] the windows and their

[3:08:42] entertainment deck looks right

[3:08:46] into my house, into my living

[3:08:47] room, into my my dining room

[3:08:51] because I have cathedral

[3:08:52] ceilings.

[3:08:52] The house was built in the 60s

[3:08:56] by owners who never thought

[3:08:57] that they would have a house

[3:08:57] right next to them looking in

[3:09:01] on on their life this way built

[3:09:02] on an artificial pad they're

[3:09:05] going to tear down a big hill

[3:09:10] and create a pad filling in a

[3:09:11] valley That should not be done.

[3:09:15] >> That does conclude your time

[3:09:16] .

[3:09:17] I am not sure if anybody else

[3:09:17] wants to cede your time but

[3:09:18] that is the full time.

[3:09:20] I'm sorry.

[3:09:21] Well it's it's a mystery why

[3:09:25] the local advisory board was

[3:09:25] ignored when voted against is

[3:09:26] unanimous.

[3:09:26] Thank you for that And I thank

[3:09:30] you for your time and I hope

[3:09:31] that you will read my letter.

[3:09:32] It's just I have to ask you.

[3:09:37] >> Thank you, Bernard Siegel

[3:09:38] Bernard Siegel After that is

[3:09:43] Philip Merton to the left And

[3:09:48] MR. Burke, are you okay with

[3:09:48] that?

[3:09:49] MR. Burton Because we do do a

[3:09:49] first come first serve unless

[3:09:50] you're okay with it.

[3:09:54] Please come up.

[3:09:55] Good afternoon.

[3:10:00] Council members.

[3:10:01] My name is Philip Merton.

[3:10:03] I reside at 1236 New Orleans

[3:10:04] Vista Way in the community of

[3:10:08] La Hoya.

[3:10:09] I'm here today representing MR.

[3:10:09] Lynch.

[3:10:13] I want my comments are also on

[3:10:17] my own behalf as a 15 year

[3:10:17] member of the Community

[3:10:18] Planning Association and as an

[3:10:22] elected trustee for 12 of those

[3:10:26] years in the late 1960s and

[3:10:26] early 1970s the residents of La

[3:10:30] Hoya Shores concluded that

[3:10:31] the character of their

[3:10:31] community was unique and

[3:10:35] deserved protection.

[3:10:36] In 1974 the San Diego City

[3:10:37] Council adopted De La Hoya

[3:10:41] Shores precise Plan de La Hoya

[3:10:42] Shores Design Manual and the La

[3:10:45] Hoya Shore's Plan District

[3:10:46] Ordinance The La Hoya Surance

[3:10:46] Plan District ordinance has

[3:10:49] been the controlling

[3:10:50] regulations in La Hoya Shores

[3:10:51] for more than 50 years and are

[3:10:55] contained in Chapter 15 Article

[3:10:55] one of the San Diego Municipal

[3:11:00] Code The Design Principles

[3:11:00] section of the Shores Ordinance

[3:11:05] states original quality and

[3:11:06] diversity in architecture are

[3:11:09] encouraged The same unity and

[3:11:09] variety shall be a guiding

[3:11:10] principle.

[3:11:13] Unity without variety means

[3:11:14] simple monotony but variety by

[3:11:14] itself is chaos.

[3:11:19] It says that no structure will

[3:11:19] be approved which is

[3:11:23] substantially like any other

[3:11:24] structure located on adjacent

[3:11:24] parcel.

[3:11:29] It also says conversely no

[3:11:30] structure will be approved that

[3:11:30] is so different in quality For

[3:11:33] that concluding statement that

[3:11:34] does include But if you have

[3:11:35] written statements you can

[3:11:35] definitely hand those to my

[3:11:36] staff and then we can

[3:11:38] distribute those to the council

[3:11:38] so that they can continue

[3:11:39] reading them.

[3:11:40] Do you have a handout for

[3:11:43] council member group Mo Samak

[3:11:51] Summary.

[3:11:52] Good afternoon.

[3:11:57] Council PRESIDENT McCarver

[3:11:58] Council Members My name is Mo

[3:12:02] Samik I am with the Office of

[3:12:03] San Diego Land Lawyers and we

[3:12:06] represent MISS Lynn Schenck who

[3:12:07] actually as you mentioned owns

[3:12:07] property directly adjacent to

[3:12:11] this particular project.

[3:12:11] In addition to the concerns

[3:12:16] that was raised by others there

[3:12:17] are a couple of technical items

[3:12:17] that I would like to bring it

[3:12:20] to Council's attention before

[3:12:20] their decision.

[3:12:24] First is about the grading.

[3:12:25] This project proposes a grading

[3:12:29] of six different lots with no

[3:12:30] particular order in which

[3:12:35] the lots are going to be

[3:12:35] graded.

[3:12:36] The amount of grading is

[3:12:36] significant.

[3:12:40] It varies from for each lot.

[3:12:43] It varies from 560yd to about

[3:12:47] 40 800yd of excavation and

[3:12:51] 460yd to about 20 500yd of

[3:12:52] fill.

[3:12:53] And if there are no conditions

[3:12:56] to proper address the amount of

[3:12:57] grading, it is possible that

[3:13:01] these type of activities

[3:13:02] continues on for a significant

[3:13:03] period of time which you can

[3:13:07] imagine if your next door

[3:13:07] neighbor you would be impacted

[3:13:11] by trucking by dust and noise

[3:13:12] for an indefinite period of

[3:13:12] time.

[3:13:16] So we believe there should be

[3:13:20] some requirements for adjusting

[3:13:21] the grading With respect to

[3:13:22] drainage which counsel actually

[3:13:25] mentioned.

[3:13:26] I want to briefly mention that

[3:13:27] we understand that they are

[3:13:31] discharging something and I'm

[3:13:31] sorry that does conclude your

[3:13:35] time.

[3:13:35] If you have any written

[3:13:36] statements we can definitely

[3:13:37] distribute those to

[3:13:37] the council.

[3:13:40] I just wanted to mention that

[3:13:40] the amount of discharge is

[3:13:41] significantly higher with

[3:13:44] the curb capacity.

[3:13:45] Thank you for that concluding

[3:13:45] statement.

[3:13:46] Michael Feinstein.

[3:13:52] Michael Feinstein And then our

[3:13:53] last public comment is Bernard

[3:13:56] Siegel That's here in council

[3:14:15] chambers.

[3:14:15] >> Good afternoon, MR.

[3:14:16] PRESIDENT.

[3:14:19] And for the same for

[3:14:24] the members of the Council.

[3:14:25] I reside at 2406 via Zito's

[3:14:29] court which is property on

[3:14:29] the street adjacent to this

[3:14:30] development.

[3:14:34] Early on I spoke with MR.

[3:14:35] Faust, the architect involved

[3:14:35] in this project.

[3:14:38] I asked him to identify who

[3:14:43] the owners actually would be in

[3:14:44] the homes that are being built

[3:14:45] and he refused to give me that

[3:14:45] information.

[3:14:48] I asked MR. Fosh if he would

[3:14:49] give me a copy of the agreement

[3:14:52] between him and the owners that

[3:14:53] would show his authority to act

[3:14:57] on behalf of the owners and he

[3:14:58] would not furnish that to me

[3:14:58] either.

[3:14:59] He referred me to a man by

[3:15:02] the name of Scott Sennett who

[3:15:02] happens to be the managing

[3:15:03] partner of a limited

[3:15:07] partnership called the Cielo Ma

[3:15:07] Project.

[3:15:08] I met with him.

[3:15:11] Now this is the limited

[3:15:12] partnership that was reputed to

[3:15:16] be from MR. Faucheux, the owner

[3:15:16] of the actual parcel that is

[3:15:17] being developed and is

[3:15:21] the subject of seeking these

[3:15:21] permits.

[3:15:22] MR. Sennett refused to disclose

[3:15:26] to me give me a copy of

[3:15:27] the escrow instructions that

[3:15:31] showed who the limited who were

[3:15:31] the owners of these things.

[3:15:32] So to this day the applicant so

[3:15:35] called applicant has refused to

[3:15:36] tell us who the actual

[3:15:40] individual owners of these six

[3:15:40] homes are going to be.

[3:15:41] Now we have to have that

[3:15:45] information And now MR. Fosh is

[3:15:49] presumably seeking a permit on

[3:15:50] behalf of people.

[3:15:51] >> That does conclude your

[3:15:51] time, sir.

[3:15:53] I have one but six parties

[3:15:54] exceeding to me.

[3:15:58] I have nobody who ceded time to

[3:15:58] you in my records.

[3:15:59] Sorry I'm up here.

[3:16:02] There's nobody that seated time

[3:16:03] in your records.

[3:16:04] >> If they can raise their hand

[3:16:04] we can get a speaker slip from

[3:16:05] them.

[3:16:08] I have MR. Doheny I think is

[3:16:09] here to share the time to me.

[3:16:10] >> MR..

[3:16:12] Don't be seated.

[3:16:13] His time and his speaker slip

[3:16:13] to Lynn Schenck.

[3:16:17] He ceded his time to Lynn

[3:16:17] Schenck.

[3:16:18] >> I can't hear you.

[3:16:18] I'm sorry.

[3:16:22] He ceded his time to Lynn

[3:16:22] Schenck.

[3:16:23] Myself will come down and talk

[3:16:25] to you and show you

[3:16:26] the speaker's slip.

[3:16:27] I actually need more time to

[3:16:30] show you that MR. Bush does not

[3:16:31] have the authority legal

[3:16:32] authority to speak on behalf of

[3:16:36] this applicant.

[3:16:36] >> Understood, sir.

[3:16:37] You If there's anybody else

[3:16:38] that can see due time then they

[3:16:41] can give you time.

[3:16:42] But there's no other speakers

[3:16:43] up here and I have to be before

[3:16:45] I can.

[3:16:46] >> Must expressed the hope that

[3:16:46] if the applicant.

[3:16:50] I'm sorry, sir.

[3:16:51] I do have to move on to

[3:16:52] the next speakers.

[3:16:57] Do we go to um I'm going to be

[3:16:58] looking for an update.

[3:17:02] We're going to go to the folks

[3:17:03] participating remotely get take

[3:17:05] their comments and then we'll

[3:17:06] circle back with the two

[3:17:11] parties going to those

[3:17:11] participating remotely I'm

[3:17:15] sorry the five minute timer We

[3:17:15] have three speakers in

[3:17:16] the queue.

[3:17:19] Tony if you can please unmute.

[3:17:24] >> Hello?

[3:17:24] Can you hear me?

[3:17:25] Yes, Please proceed.

[3:17:26] Hey I just wanted to say that

[3:17:29] I'm in support of the residents

[3:17:29] of La Hoya.

[3:17:30] I'm not acquiescing and I hope

[3:17:33] that the council won't

[3:17:34] acquiesce to the demands of

[3:17:34] the developers.

[3:17:37] I know from my own personal

[3:17:38] experience how much our living

[3:17:42] conditions are affected by

[3:17:43] incessant development and a lot

[3:17:44] of times the development

[3:17:48] doesn't necessarily support

[3:17:49] the community and it doesn't

[3:17:52] give the local residents

[3:17:53] anything particularly

[3:17:53] beneficial.

[3:17:54] And in this case it sounds like

[3:17:58] that's what a lot of the local

[3:17:59] residents are saying.

[3:18:02] So I hope that this town can be

[3:18:03] one that continues to

[3:18:03] accommodate the people that

[3:18:04] live here, not the people that

[3:18:06] want to build here.

[3:18:07] And it's very quickly becoming

[3:18:11] a town that is building homes

[3:18:16] for private equity to sit and

[3:18:17] hang on to.

[3:18:17] I know that was the case.

[3:18:20] It was reported back in 2024 in

[3:18:24] the Union-Tribune that almost

[3:18:25] 19% 20% of the homes sold in

[3:18:29] Georgia were for private

[3:18:29] equity.

[3:18:30] So I just have some concerns

[3:18:33] about especially what the last

[3:18:34] gentleman who spoke raised

[3:18:38] about not knowing who

[3:18:39] the purchasers of these

[3:18:43] developed lots would be.

[3:18:44] Yeah, that's a that's very

[3:18:48] concerning.

[3:18:48] >> So anyway, thanks for your

[3:18:49] time.

[3:18:49] Thank you.

[3:18:49] Next is Hector.

[3:18:52] If you can please unmute.

[3:18:53] >> After that our final speaker

[3:18:54] is 8700.

[3:18:58] Thanks for taking my call.

[3:18:59] Hey Mike.

[3:19:02] She's like a great person in

[3:19:03] San Diego.

[3:19:07] Give her a break And she says

[3:19:08] this is the fight for even

[3:19:13] the rich guys in La Hoya.

[3:19:14] Yeah, if there's say guys in

[3:19:17] Bay Park they just built

[3:19:18] the four story u next to my

[3:19:23] neighbor So my driveway looking

[3:19:24] into you know it's terrible he

[3:19:27] couldn't do nothing about it

[3:19:27] man.

[3:19:28] He didn't have the millions of

[3:19:33] lawyers though So I know the La

[3:19:34] La Hoya game is you know, it's

[3:19:37] a terrible session.

[3:19:37] Do those guys do this?

[3:19:38] Do that but just take it could

[3:19:43] be like a lot of Black Lives

[3:19:43] Matter and then they turn it

[3:19:47] into a duty party yourself.

[3:19:48] Who knows how to apply it But

[3:19:50] it's going to be a battle.

[3:19:51] I say take the law.

[3:19:54] You guys give them a grain of

[3:19:55] salt.

[3:19:55] Let them have them.

[3:19:56] Let them have their way because

[3:20:01] they all got buddies and

[3:20:01] they're older defend them And

[3:20:02] it's more and it's going to be

[3:20:05] a loss Who you know what's

[3:20:06] going to happen there Obviously

[3:20:09] the lawyers are definitely

[3:20:09] conceal and reveal the truth

[3:20:14] That's what they get paid for.

[3:20:14] They're going to lie.

[3:20:15] That's the whole game that Oh

[3:20:22] good luck with your life.

[3:20:22] Thank you.

[3:20:23] That concludes your comments.

[3:20:25] Oh yeah.

[3:20:25] Thank you.

[3:20:32] Next is 8700 8700 if you

[3:20:33] complete.

[3:20:38] >> There you go.

[3:20:39] Sorry about that.

[3:20:39] Thank you.

[3:20:39] City clerk.

[3:20:40] City clerk.

[3:20:40] I apologize.

[3:20:42] Is that 1 or 2 minutes?

[3:20:43] It's a minute and a half a

[3:20:47] minute and a half.

[3:20:48] Thank you so much, Joy.

[3:20:51] As soon you are to First of

[3:20:52] all, I've just come out of

[3:20:53] the gate saying this that I

[3:20:56] agree with the staff and

[3:20:57] they're recommending that you

[3:20:57] deny the appeal.

[3:21:01] Now a couple of things I want

[3:21:01] to say as I live in District

[3:21:05] three but I try to get a stay

[3:21:06] abreast of what's happening in

[3:21:10] our entire San Diego area as

[3:21:11] best I can by this kind of

[3:21:15] process Really, really upsets

[3:21:15] me.

[3:21:16] And the reason it does is

[3:21:20] because, you know, appeals are

[3:21:21] good and they're not too good

[3:21:21] at the same time.

[3:21:25] But what causes these appeals

[3:21:26] is they begin to listen to

[3:21:30] the parties involved.

[3:21:30] I feel very sad and very upset

[3:21:31] at the same time because they

[3:21:35] see this this this push pull

[3:21:36] this fight in a negative way

[3:21:39] between the parties who are

[3:21:40] involved, whether it's

[3:21:45] neighbors or you know, making

[3:21:45] the appeal the developers,

[3:21:46] whatever and you choose of

[3:21:50] the word somebody use the word

[3:21:50] today secrecy and

[3:21:51] nontransparent And there are

[3:21:54] some other very negative word

[3:21:57] to use And yet she was I

[3:21:58] believe which one she was

[3:21:59] asking that if we could have a

[3:22:02] neighbor who had neighborly

[3:22:03] good faith collaboration.

[3:22:07] Well, you know where was that

[3:22:08] we're has that been in in a lot

[3:22:11] of cases that just doesn't

[3:22:12] happen.

[3:22:12] So that's what we want.

[3:22:17] We want all these parties to

[3:22:17] sit together and collaborate

[3:22:22] and share and come to the good.

[3:22:22] My apologies.

[3:22:25] And that does conclude the five

[3:22:25] minute timer.

[3:22:26] >> So that does include public

[3:22:26] comment on this item.

[3:22:27] All right.

[3:22:29] Thank you, City Clerk So at

[3:22:30] least we got through that part

[3:22:30] of that.

[3:22:31] So where do we stand with

[3:22:34] the appellant and the applicant

[3:22:35] Chandler Slavin On behalf of

[3:22:39] the applicant we respectfully

[3:22:40] request that the hearing be

[3:22:41] continued today and not be

[3:22:44] extended.

[3:22:45] Did the Appellant We've reached

[3:22:49] out multiple times and this is

[3:22:50] the first time we've heard from

[3:22:50] them in six months They do not

[3:22:53] have their civil engineer nor

[3:22:54] their clients here We are

[3:22:58] accepting of the conditions

[3:22:59] that staff took a lot of time

[3:23:00] and effort to write and we

[3:23:03] would like our hearing to

[3:23:04] continue and the appeal to be

[3:23:04] withdrawn today.

[3:23:07] Thank you.

[3:23:07] >> All right.

[3:23:12] The appellant realizing that

[3:23:17] puts you in an awkward position

[3:23:17] .

[3:23:18] >> I'm sorry could you come to

[3:23:22] the mic just so everybody else

[3:23:22] can hear?

[3:23:23] Yes, of course.

[3:23:29] Thank you.

[3:23:30] We are not going to withdraw

[3:23:34] our appeal today if

[3:23:35] the applicant or the applicant

[3:23:39] has not agreed to continue

[3:23:39] the hearing to a future date.

[3:23:40] I put that to the council but I

[3:23:44] understand Council PRESIDENT

[3:23:45] LaCava your hesitancy to do

[3:23:45] that So we are prepared.

[3:23:49] I am prepared to continue with

[3:23:50] the hearing if that is

[3:23:53] the direction given to me.

[3:23:54] >> I believe my clients

[3:23:59] the Cavanaugh's are online so

[3:23:59] they are also here with us

[3:24:03] today.

[3:24:04] All right so we'll give you so

[3:24:08] that they reach out to you

[3:24:08] during this hearing?

[3:24:09] >> No, not yet, no.

[3:24:13] We spoke with Bill Prior to

[3:24:14] the hearing.

[3:24:14] Okay.

[3:24:15] So for the second time that was

[3:24:15] the question I was asking is

[3:24:17] whether the two sides could sit

[3:24:17] down not thinking there was

[3:24:18] anything fanciful or rose

[3:24:22] colored glasses that would be

[3:24:22] resolved.

[3:24:23] But I remember the good words

[3:24:27] of fresco, right.

[3:24:27] Who else?

[3:24:31] Eric Netherland that said Just

[3:24:32] talk if there's an opportunity

[3:24:33] to talk But people make their

[3:24:36] choices so I will invite you

[3:24:37] with your 15 minutes to make

[3:24:41] your presentation.

[3:24:41] Excellent.

[3:24:42] Thank you very much.

[3:24:42] Well good afternoon again.

[3:24:46] I'm sure this doesn't happen

[3:24:47] often but you know it's always

[3:24:51] a good time as I previously

[3:24:51] mentioned, my name is Anna and

[3:24:52] i represent the appellant's

[3:24:55] doctor, MRS. Cavanaugh who live

[3:24:56] at 8270 five La Hoya Shores

[3:24:56] Drive downstream neighbors of

[3:25:00] the proposed project.

[3:25:01] We were here today to request a

[3:25:01] continuance but given that that

[3:25:05] is not an option on the table,

[3:25:05] we will continue and we

[3:25:09] respectfully request that you

[3:25:10] after hearing my presentation

[3:25:14] decide to continue and require

[3:25:15] future study future analysis of

[3:25:19] the applicant, the Cabinets

[3:25:20] appeal challenges the Planning

[3:25:20] Commission findings on drainage

[3:25:21] adequacy and the applicant's

[3:25:25] legal authority with respect to

[3:25:25] the private roadway Kyra.

[3:25:29] >> First go to the applicant

[3:25:29] has hired a third party

[3:25:33] engineer who reviewed

[3:25:34] the grading and drainage plans

[3:25:34] provided by the applicant and

[3:25:38] has found substantive and

[3:25:39] legitimate concerns with

[3:25:39] the drainage and grading of

[3:25:43] report.

[3:25:43] The project proposes to

[3:25:46] discharge approximately 6.7

[3:25:47] cubic feet per second of

[3:25:51] stormwater towards Kyra First

[3:25:51] cota and the Hoya Shores Drive.

[3:25:55] This equates to roughly 50

[3:25:56] gallons of water per second or

[3:25:59] approximately 3000 gallons of

[3:26:00] stormwater per minute during a

[3:26:03] storm event.

[3:26:04] This is the equivalent of

[3:26:05] draining a typical residential

[3:26:08] swimming pool into the streets

[3:26:09] system every few minutes

[3:26:10] creating a concentrated

[3:26:14] discharge that raises

[3:26:14] substantial concerns regarding

[3:26:15] the downstream impacts street

[3:26:18] capacity and public safety.

[3:26:19] This is the Hoya Shores Drive a

[3:26:20] very significant roadway in

[3:26:23] this part of the town.

[3:26:24] >> It is our engineers belief

[3:26:28] that the curb cannot handle

[3:26:28] this amount of water.

[3:26:29] We are requesting that

[3:26:33] the applicant perform

[3:26:34] downstream analysis for

[3:26:34] the water being discharged onto

[3:26:38] the Hoya Shores Drive.

[3:26:39] The current drainage study that

[3:26:40] was presented with this product

[3:26:41] does not currently contain this

[3:26:51] downstream analysis.

[3:26:52] The Cavanaugh residents please

[3:26:58] continue.

[3:26:59] >> Perfect.

[3:26:59] So here you can see

[3:27:04] the proposed project location.

[3:27:05] The Cavanaugh residence is at

[3:27:05] the corner of q four Scotia and

[3:27:09] La Hoya Shores Drive at

[3:27:10] the furthermost edge You can

[3:27:11] see it there on the far left.

[3:27:14] It is particular It is also

[3:27:15] downhill of La Hoya Shores

[3:27:18] Drive so therefore it is

[3:27:18] particularly vulnerable to any

[3:27:19] concentrated discharges or

[3:27:20] failures in the proposed

[3:27:23] drainage system serving

[3:27:23] the project and adjoining

[3:27:24] parcels.

[3:27:27] My clients and other adjacent

[3:27:28] homeowners would be directly

[3:27:29] affected by any surface or

[3:27:33] subsurface discharge rooted

[3:27:33] through that corridor.

[3:27:34] The Kavanagh third party water

[3:27:38] resources engineer conducted a

[3:27:38] study of the stormwater

[3:27:43] assessment and a and produced a

[3:27:47] memo reflecting its five

[3:27:47] findings and proposed

[3:27:48] conditions.

[3:27:48] A copy of said memo was

[3:27:53] provided last week and I

[3:27:54] believe you all have a copy in

[3:27:58] hand when you go back can you

[3:28:03] actually reverse please?

[3:28:08] >> The key concerns identified

[3:28:09] by the engineer were

[3:28:09] the following Western boundary

[3:28:13] routing the brown ditch along

[3:28:14] the western boundary is shown

[3:28:14] routing directly into a 12 inch

[3:28:15] storm drain on Caiaphas.

[3:28:18] Go to bypassing the West Basin

[3:28:19] and undermining q100 mitigation

[3:28:23] and water quality treatment.

[3:28:23] Prior versions also reference

[3:28:24] prior versions of

[3:28:24] the applicant's plans also

[3:28:28] referenced a pump to lift flows

[3:28:28] to Basin b one But current

[3:28:32] documents lack the clarity on

[3:28:33] whether or not that pump is

[3:28:33] there or not.

[3:28:34] Additionally, the engineer

[3:28:37] found that the Basin two is

[3:28:38] marginally undersized for water

[3:28:42] quality performance.

[3:28:42] Also a conjunctive use basin

[3:28:46] shows inadequate freeboard for

[3:28:47] q100 water events and appears

[3:28:48] to rely on low flow under drain

[3:28:52] orifices for q 100 discharge

[3:28:52] which is not allowed.

[3:28:53] Conjunctive use just means

[3:28:57] shared uses for both stormwater

[3:28:58] treatment and collection during

[3:29:01] storm events.

[3:29:02] Pump design and failure

[3:29:02] contingencies If a pump is used

[3:29:07] to lift western flows to Basin

[3:29:07] b one the applicant's

[3:29:11] submittals lack design sizing,

[3:29:11] housing power reliability and

[3:29:12] redundancy of this pump.

[3:29:16] Emergency overflow analysis has

[3:29:16] also absent from its report.

[3:29:21] And lastly the 12 inch storm

[3:29:22] drain proposed in Cairo for

[3:29:26] Skoda omits hydraulic sizing

[3:29:26] and in the capture analysis And

[3:29:30] as I previously mentioned that

[3:29:31] downstream water analysis of

[3:29:35] the flows coming off from

[3:29:35] the project site and flowing

[3:29:44] into the higher shores drive in

[3:29:45] addition to the question as to

[3:29:45] the drainage design and

[3:29:49] the storm water deficiencies

[3:29:50] identified by the third party

[3:29:54] water resources engineer.

[3:29:55] There remains the issue of

[3:29:56] the ownership of Cairo First go

[3:29:59] to this private roadway and

[3:29:59] whether or not the applicant

[3:30:00] has the right to utilize Cairo

[3:30:04] for Skoda for the installation

[3:30:04] repair and replacement of

[3:30:08] public utilities without

[3:30:08] the consent of the other

[3:30:13] co-owners including Cavanaugh's

[3:30:13] .

[3:30:14] According to the document that

[3:30:17] was referenced document number

[3:30:18] 43 967 the original grant deed

[3:30:22] It states that an interest is

[3:30:23] granted in the property in

[3:30:27] interest which implies for

[3:30:28] ownership.

[3:30:29] The at the appellants advocate

[3:30:32] the hire for Skoda is not an

[3:30:33] easement for use by

[3:30:36] the developer but instead it is

[3:30:37] privately owned in undivided

[3:30:40] fee interest by five co-owners

[3:30:41] including the Cavanaugh's.

[3:30:45] There is no record it easement

[3:30:46] burdening that parcel in favor

[3:30:50] of the projects proposed

[3:30:50] private stormwater discharge

[3:30:51] over the other owners interests

[3:30:56] further Kenya for Skoda has its

[3:30:57] own assessor's parcel number

[3:31:00] and for many years the county

[3:31:00] tax collector issued a secured

[3:31:01] tax bill specifically for this

[3:31:05] private right of way In

[3:31:06] California, paying property

[3:31:06] taxes is a strong indicia of

[3:31:10] fee interest.

[3:31:10] To date the applicant has not

[3:31:11] received written consent from

[3:31:15] the other co-owners for

[3:31:15] installing private drainage and

[3:31:16] sewer improvements proposed for

[3:31:20] the project from my clients

[3:31:21] the Cavanaugh's or any of

[3:31:22] the other property owners along

[3:31:24] Kyra for Skoda we therefore

[3:31:25] state there remains fundamental

[3:31:29] authority and an access

[3:31:30] concerns that should be

[3:31:30] resolved before any city

[3:31:34] approvals of the project

[3:31:34] dependent are given that are

[3:31:35] dependent on the use of this

[3:31:52] private right of way that

[3:31:52] the third party engineer also

[3:31:56] provided corrective conditions

[3:31:57] in its report.

[3:32:02] Here are a few Prior to

[3:32:02] granting approval we recommend

[3:32:06] again that the Council continue

[3:32:07] to study these conditions and

[3:32:08] whether or not they actually

[3:32:11] meet with the concerns

[3:32:12] addressed today.

[3:32:16] But first we require we request

[3:32:17] that the Council require final

[3:32:17] stamp plans that positively

[3:32:18] route all tributary flows from

[3:32:21] the Western brow ditch into

[3:32:26] basin be one also before

[3:32:27] permits are issued We require

[3:32:31] detention provisions

[3:32:32] demonstrating one foot of

[3:32:32] freeboard above q 100 ponding

[3:32:36] in each basin and no reliance

[3:32:39] on under drain or orifice for q

[3:32:39] 100 discharge condition

[3:32:40] approval on field pump design

[3:32:43] peak flow head calculations

[3:32:44] exposure and power reliability

[3:32:45] emergency overflow routing and

[3:32:49] redundancy including a backup

[3:32:49] pump for the Western system If

[3:32:54] a pump is used And again is

[3:32:54] there going to be a water pump,

[3:32:55] is there not?

[3:32:56] What is going to happen for

[3:33:01] this water flow require

[3:33:01] complete hydraulic sizing and

[3:33:05] inlet capture analysis for

[3:33:06] the 12 inch water line,

[3:33:07] reconcile alignment across plan

[3:33:10] sets and demonstrate

[3:33:11] the concentrated discharge at

[3:33:12] La Hoya shorts Drive is safely

[3:33:12] accommodated in the public

[3:33:15] right away.

[3:33:16] We maintain that it is not

[3:33:17] clear from the applicant's

[3:33:21] plans whether or not it will be

[3:33:21] safe for that amount of water

[3:33:22] to be discharged into La Hoya

[3:33:25] Shore's Drive.

[3:33:26] >> We'd also like the applicant

[3:33:30] to confirm all bio filtration

[3:33:30] facilities meet minimum water

[3:33:31] quality sizing including

[3:33:32] the correction of any

[3:33:40] undersized.

[3:33:40] The applicant believes that

[3:33:45] there are significant questions

[3:33:45] about the drainage studies that

[3:33:46] were done and submitted to

[3:33:50] the city staff for review and

[3:33:51] therefore we would like

[3:33:51] the Council to continue this

[3:33:55] hearing to further analyze

[3:33:55] the applicant's plans and tell

[3:33:59] us whether or not the plans

[3:34:00] adequately address storm water

[3:34:00] concerns.

[3:34:05] I, I would now like to give

[3:34:06] some of my time to my clients

[3:34:12] if they are available on Zoom.

[3:34:17] Yes we are available.

[3:34:17] Hi.

[3:34:22] Let me know when to start.

[3:34:23] We can hear you here in council

[3:34:23] chambers.

[3:34:26] Okay.

[3:34:27] All right.

[3:34:28] Well thank you to the council

[3:34:33] members and and I'm already

[3:34:33] Cavenagh and my wife Lynn and

[3:34:34] we live here and lived here for

[3:34:36] a long time and we are just

[3:34:37] trying to do what's right for

[3:34:41] the overall community here.

[3:34:42] I was very disappointed to hear

[3:34:43] the applicant's lawyer say that

[3:34:46] they had reached out to us.

[3:34:46] That is absolutely not true.

[3:34:47] We have reached out to them

[3:34:50] multiple multiple times And

[3:34:51] what we have found is when they

[3:34:52] finally did respond it was

[3:34:55] bullying barely responsive,

[3:34:56] basically saying they could do

[3:35:00] whatever they want and that

[3:35:01] basically that was that.

[3:35:02] So not transparent at all.

[3:35:06] We did engage some engineers to

[3:35:06] look at this.

[3:35:07] We went with one The engineer

[3:35:11] had a difficult time because

[3:35:11] the plans kept changing in fact

[3:35:12] throughout this whole process

[3:35:16] is not clear what the final

[3:35:16] result is going to be which for

[3:35:20] an engineer it makes it very

[3:35:21] difficult to estimate

[3:35:25] the accuracy of the plans and

[3:35:26] how that will store it out.

[3:35:26] We asked them about

[3:35:30] the maintenance and that's of

[3:35:31] course very important when

[3:35:35] you're talking about situations

[3:35:36] in which a drain can be

[3:35:36] blocked.

[3:35:37] Maintenance can be very

[3:35:40] important and there is no

[3:35:40] answer on that.

[3:35:41] And now I begin to understand

[3:35:44] with hearing from other

[3:35:45] neighbors about the fact that

[3:35:46] it's an issue if they have

[3:35:49] the legal authority to act on

[3:35:50] behalf of the whoever

[3:35:53] the owners are which is not up

[3:35:54] to us but we need to know that

[3:35:59] there is some maintenance plan

[3:35:59] for a complex set of drainage

[3:36:04] designs such as this.

[3:36:08] We need to see those new

[3:36:09] additions.

[3:36:13] We had not seen those shown by

[3:36:14] the city city staffers

[3:36:14] mentioned just now and with all

[3:36:19] due respect, MR. LaCava, the if

[3:36:23] I was a seeing a patient and

[3:36:24] said here here's a new medicine

[3:36:29] read this 20 pages of Plant ten

[3:36:32] and decide right now if you

[3:36:33] want to take this medicine that

[3:36:33] would be malpractice.

[3:36:37] So I think we need time to look

[3:36:38] at what is proposed And I'm a

[3:36:39] little worried when I see

[3:36:42] the things that are proposed

[3:36:43] because it all says to be

[3:36:44] approved by the city engineer.

[3:36:44] It's almost like we have to

[3:36:47] approve the project and started

[3:36:47] to be able to see what

[3:36:52] the final plans are and then by

[3:36:53] then it MAY be too late to know

[3:36:53] if they're going to be adequate

[3:36:57] for this situation.

[3:36:57] So I think a continuance is

[3:36:58] absolutely indicated so we can

[3:37:03] address these issues and was as

[3:37:04] raised by COUNCILMAN When

[3:37:06] Schenck has the city engineer

[3:37:07] weighed in on this as of yet?

[3:37:08] I'd be pretty uncomfortable

[3:37:12] kicking that down the road and

[3:37:12] saying well they'll review it

[3:37:13] and make sure everything is

[3:37:16] okay by them.

[3:37:17] We understand that the easement

[3:37:21] versus the title that that's a

[3:37:22] dispute that the city doesn't

[3:37:26] want to get into But we think

[3:37:27] it's very important And again

[3:37:31] trying to approach

[3:37:32] the applicants they've been

[3:37:32] bullying and just say we

[3:37:35] basically can do whatever we

[3:37:36] want will tear out all your

[3:37:37] bushes don't have to put it

[3:37:37] back Now we understand that

[3:37:40] that's not actually the case

[3:37:40] either.

[3:37:41] So we would request further

[3:37:45] time to look at this further

[3:37:45] analysis.

[3:37:46] We MAY have to get

[3:37:50] the engineers reengaged because

[3:37:50] the plans keep changing and

[3:37:55] they couldn't actually tell how

[3:37:56] adequate it was.

[3:37:56] But as you heard from

[3:38:00] the attorney, a lot of serious

[3:38:01] issues are raised just based on

[3:38:01] the information that they had

[3:38:05] provided to them very little by

[3:38:05] the applicant other available

[3:38:10] online So respectfully we would

[3:38:11] ask that this be continued

[3:38:11] because we think these are very

[3:38:15] important issues and for

[3:38:16] the good of this community they

[3:38:19] need to be resolved before

[3:38:20] proceeding with a very

[3:38:21] substantial project such as

[3:38:21] this.

[3:38:27] Thank you.

[3:38:28] Any other concluding remarks or

[3:38:32] so some time on the clock?

[3:38:33] >> If not we will If I would

[3:38:37] like to give some concluding

[3:38:38] remarks then cede whatever time

[3:38:39] I have left to Bernie Siegel

[3:38:42] That is a lot of your time is

[3:38:42] running.

[3:38:43] >> So All right.

[3:38:43] Well, thank you.

[3:38:47] Members of the council for our

[3:38:47] hearing our hearing to hear in

[3:38:51] our appeal today.

[3:38:52] >> We believe that there are

[3:38:52] substantive drainage issues and

[3:38:55] legal questions surrounding

[3:39:00] the applicant's ability to

[3:39:01] perform this work in the public

[3:39:02] right in the private right of

[3:39:05] way as well as the applicant's

[3:39:05] ability to control stormwater

[3:39:06] runoff from the project site

[3:39:10] Applicant's appellants stated

[3:39:10] intent is a responsible

[3:39:11] approval of this project

[3:39:15] The protects downstream

[3:39:15] properties while allowing

[3:39:16] compliant drainage for design

[3:39:16] design.

[3:39:20] We are not in a we are not in

[3:39:20] total objection to the project

[3:39:24] we just have questions that

[3:39:24] need answers.

[3:39:25] There are gaps in the analysis

[3:39:29] and the applicant has not been

[3:39:30] able to answer those to our

[3:39:30] satisfaction.

[3:39:36] >> Thank you.

[3:39:37] All right.

[3:39:37] If you have very little time if

[3:39:41] you'd like to come up there's

[3:39:46] 30s that we have to continue.

[3:39:46] Can you tell Bernard he only

[3:39:50] has 30s so So that he knows I

[3:39:55] believe that the count this

[3:39:56] council does not have

[3:40:00] jurisdiction to hear project

[3:40:01] that's being proposed by MR.

[3:40:04] Bush because he the owner of

[3:40:05] record is still the limited

[3:40:05] partnership which was

[3:40:08] the original according to

[3:40:09] the Internet original applicant

[3:40:10] the named applicant in this

[3:40:14] proceeding and MR. Fosh does

[3:40:15] has nothing in writing that's

[3:40:18] been displayed publicly to show

[3:40:19] that he has authority to do any

[3:40:20] of these things or file any

[3:40:23] documents or speak on behalf of

[3:40:24] the actual and the actual

[3:40:27] members the six members Thank

[3:40:28] you for showing any authority

[3:40:29] your time has concluded sir.

[3:40:29] Thank you for that concluding

[3:40:32] remark.

[3:40:38] >> All right now give

[3:40:38] the applicant equal

[3:40:39] opportunity.

[3:40:43] >> Does the applicant want to

[3:40:44] speak up for the records And

[3:40:47] you have up to 15 minutes for

[3:40:47] your presentation.

[3:40:48] >> Thank you very much.

[3:40:52] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

[3:40:53] distinguished Council members.

[3:40:53] My name is Brian Will.

[3:40:57] I'm the architect for

[3:40:57] the Claymore subdivision along

[3:40:58] with my business partner Andy

[3:40:59] Fortune who was previously

[3:41:04] mentioned.

[3:41:04] I'll be brief What you're

[3:41:09] looking at is a subdivision of

[3:41:09] the proposed development as it

[3:41:14] would appear within the fabric

[3:41:14] of Illinois shores six new

[3:41:15] custom homes on a four and a

[3:41:18] half acre site each designed

[3:41:19] with an argument home homeowner

[3:41:23] who has been directly involved

[3:41:24] in every stage of this project

[3:41:24] from the concept through

[3:41:28] permitting.

[3:41:28] Admittedly these are six

[3:41:33] gracious homes but in a

[3:41:34] neighborhood surrounded by

[3:41:38] gracious homes we're here today

[3:41:38] on an appeal that centers

[3:41:39] solely on the stormwater

[3:41:39] drainage.

[3:41:41] However, I'd like to briefly

[3:41:42] walk through the projects

[3:41:43] context and community history

[3:41:47] before turning to the technical

[3:41:47] question.

[3:41:48] Next slide please.

[3:41:51] This overhead view shows

[3:41:51] the six proposed proposed lot

[3:41:52] footprints in the context of

[3:41:56] the surrounding neighborhood.

[3:41:57] The site at the sits at the end

[3:42:02] of Cadel Cielo from the North

[3:42:02] and q four Scotter from

[3:42:05] the west.

[3:42:06] >> Each of the six lots has

[3:42:06] been designed to be consistent

[3:42:10] with the scale and character of

[3:42:11] surrounding properties floor

[3:42:12] area ratios across the project

[3:42:15] range from 0.18 to 0.33 well

[3:42:20] below the zoning code maximum

[3:42:21] and within the range you see on

[3:42:21] the neighboring parcels shown

[3:42:25] on this plan all lots comply

[3:42:26] with the applicable setback and

[3:42:30] zoning requirements with no

[3:42:30] zone, with no variances or

[3:42:31] deviations requested.

[3:42:35] This is not a developer driven

[3:42:35] projects.

[3:42:36] Six families came together to

[3:42:39] form an llc so that they could

[3:42:43] purchase this property Once six

[3:42:44] parcels are created by this

[3:42:48] action they can take individual

[3:42:49] ownership but there's no other

[3:42:49] way to do that besides to form

[3:42:53] the llc Previously mentioned

[3:42:54] every family at this table has

[3:42:54] been personally involved in

[3:42:57] this project for the past four

[3:42:58] years.

[3:42:58] That personal investment is

[3:43:02] reflected in how this project

[3:43:02] has been handled within

[3:43:03] the community.

[3:43:06] This project has attended not

[3:43:10] less than seven community

[3:43:11] community subcommittee and

[3:43:15] local planning group meetings

[3:43:16] culminating in unanimous

[3:43:20] support from the local planning

[3:43:20] group numerous one on one

[3:43:24] meetings with neighbors

[3:43:25] listening to their concerns,

[3:43:25] incorporating suggestions and

[3:43:29] making changes even after

[3:43:30] receiving unanimous approval

[3:43:34] from the planning condition

[3:43:34] Commission, our team has

[3:43:35] continued to work in good faith

[3:43:39] with neighbors relocate a

[3:43:40] swimming pool and increase

[3:43:41] sound walls to address neighbor

[3:43:44] noise concerns over ordinary

[3:43:45] residential use offered to

[3:43:49] voluntarily restrict

[3:43:49] construction hours to minimize

[3:43:50] disruption to neighbors and

[3:43:54] drafting an easement to allow

[3:43:54] one neighbor to continue

[3:43:55] enjoying some encroaching

[3:43:59] landscape on our property.

[3:43:59] None of these items were

[3:44:00] required as part of our

[3:44:04] approval but necessary in my

[3:44:05] client's eyes as to be good

[3:44:09] neighbors.

[3:44:09] The appeal before you today is

[3:44:10] focused entirely on stormwater

[3:44:10] drainage.

[3:44:13] We have both our land use

[3:44:14] attorney and our civil engineer

[3:44:14] on hand to answer any technical

[3:44:19] questions on the matter But let

[3:44:19] me first orient you to our

[3:44:20] drainage design.

[3:44:23] >> Could I see the next slide?

[3:44:28] >> The site drains from east to

[3:44:28] west.

[3:44:29] >> It's on the low lying slopes

[3:44:32] in La Hoya Shores the three

[3:44:33] lots in yellow and the majority

[3:44:37] of the cul de sac drain to

[3:44:38] the bayou basin at the top of

[3:44:42] the page in orange the lower

[3:44:42] three lots drain towards

[3:44:48] the green bio base and and then

[3:44:50] any access is routed underneath

[3:44:50] q four scudder to the curb cut

[3:44:51] that was previously a curb

[3:44:52] outlet that was previously

[3:44:57] mentioned.

[3:44:58] >> The project approval already

[3:44:59] carries a condition requiring

[3:45:03] the stormwater system to be

[3:45:03] designed by ministerial permit

[3:45:07] to the satisfaction of the city

[3:45:07] engineer.

[3:45:08] You've heard today that

[3:45:12] conditions were updating and

[3:45:13] updated to specifically address

[3:45:17] the items mentioned in

[3:45:17] the appellants expert's memo

[3:45:22] and we really just want to

[3:45:23] thank staff for getting that

[3:45:26] update done.

[3:45:27] These are all items that really

[3:45:31] reside in the ministerial

[3:45:32] permits where technical

[3:45:32] questions of calculations

[3:45:36] should be answered.

[3:45:36] >> Drainage has always moved

[3:45:41] from East to west across

[3:45:41] the site and now with this

[3:45:42] project we finally have

[3:45:45] the opportunity to improve it.

[3:45:50] So council members we believe

[3:45:51] the record before you clearly

[3:45:51] supports the city's approval of

[3:45:54] this project.

[3:45:55] The stormwater system has been

[3:45:56] designed to meet and exceed

[3:46:00] applicable standards.

[3:46:00] The community process has been

[3:46:01] thorough and transparent.

[3:46:04] Six families are ready to build

[3:46:05] homes and become neighbors in

[3:46:05] the community.

[3:46:08] They clearly care about.

[3:46:09] We respectfully ask that you

[3:46:13] deny this appeal and affirm

[3:46:14] the Planning Commission's

[3:46:14] approval before our time

[3:46:15] expires.

[3:46:18] I would like to introduce one

[3:46:19] of the six families whose home

[3:46:19] depends on your decision today.

[3:46:23] Natasha Alice, a future

[3:46:28] homeowner at Cielo Mart.

[3:46:28] >> Thank you.

[3:46:29] Good afternoon.

[3:46:32] PRESIDENT LaCava and everybody

[3:46:33] else The council members thank

[3:46:34] you for your time.

[3:46:38] Like Brian mentioned my name is

[3:46:38] Natasha Ellis.

[3:46:42] I'm one of the six families I

[3:46:42] currently occupy.

[3:46:46] Our home is on the same street

[3:46:47] as the development where we're

[3:46:48] trying to build all of our

[3:46:52] future homes.

[3:46:53] We have been painstakingly

[3:46:56] working on this project for

[3:46:56] nearly four years and we just

[3:46:57] are looking to build a home

[3:47:01] where all of our children can

[3:47:01] grow up.

[3:47:02] We actually all our friends all

[3:47:05] of us six families So I can

[3:47:05] confirm that we are not

[3:47:06] developers.

[3:47:09] We're actually part of

[3:47:10] the community and we are

[3:47:14] families along with the five

[3:47:14] other applicants.

[3:47:15] We started this process with

[3:47:16] the commitment that we would

[3:47:18] work with and all city

[3:47:18] requirements not push

[3:47:19] the envelope, respect our

[3:47:19] neighbors and the neighborhood

[3:47:23] that we love along with

[3:47:23] the city regulations.

[3:47:28] That's exactly what we feel

[3:47:28] that we have done.

[3:47:29] We have incorporated input.

[3:47:32] We heard along this journey

[3:47:32] both from neighbors,

[3:47:33] professional engineers and

[3:47:34] technical experts as well as

[3:47:37] city staff.

[3:47:38] On behalf of all of

[3:47:38] the families.

[3:47:39] I would like to thank the city

[3:47:41] staff for their detailed review

[3:47:42] and we appreciate their

[3:47:43] diligence and feedback.

[3:47:46] All of that help earned

[3:47:47] the support of our Communities

[3:47:47] Planning Association and

[3:47:51] the Planning Commission.

[3:47:52] There is still a ways to go as

[3:47:53] the next level of fine details

[3:47:56] are part of the ministerial

[3:47:57] process where city staff

[3:47:57] experts continue to ensure that

[3:48:01] our plans fully comply with

[3:48:02] the technical and building

[3:48:03] regulations and we can continue

[3:48:06] to have dialog with our

[3:48:07] neighbors along the way we

[3:48:08] respect We respectfully request

[3:48:12] that you deny the appeal so

[3:48:12] that we can move forward

[3:48:13] through the ministerial process

[3:48:16] and eventually occupy our

[3:48:16] family homes.

[3:48:17] Thank you again to city staff

[3:48:20] and thank you Council members

[3:48:21] for your thoughtful

[3:48:21] consideration.

[3:48:22] And Chandra wanted to have a

[3:48:25] few words.

[3:48:25] Thank you.

[3:48:26] Thank you, Natasha.

[3:48:26] Thank you.

[3:48:30] I just wanted to respectfully

[3:48:31] add for the record that we have

[3:48:35] been waiting since DECEMBER to

[3:48:35] hear back from the cabinets on

[3:48:39] our grading design and

[3:48:40] stormwater and so forth.

[3:48:41] We have been willing and able

[3:48:45] to work with them.

[3:48:46] Again, this is why we have our

[3:48:49] civil engineer here today and

[3:48:50] we only received their comments

[3:48:50] a few days ago.

[3:48:54] Again I want to hand it to

[3:48:55] staff for working with us to

[3:48:58] address even what they recently

[3:48:59] brought up.

[3:49:00] So just wanted to let you know

[3:49:00] put that in the record and

[3:49:06] thank you again for your time.

[3:49:07] >> Good afternoon.

[3:49:12] City Council members.

[3:49:13] My name is Lee Anderson of

[3:49:13] Honest and Linen Corn.

[3:49:14] I'm the attorney for

[3:49:16] the applicant.

[3:49:17] I first of all to reiterate

[3:49:21] what MS..

[3:49:21] Slaven said.

[3:49:22] We've been asking for

[3:49:26] the comments of the civil

[3:49:27] engineer for the Cavanaugh's

[3:49:31] actually for over a year and we

[3:49:32] just barely got them less than

[3:49:36] a week ago.

[3:49:36] >> So you know the request to

[3:49:40] continue this hearing to to

[3:49:40] consider those comments it just

[3:49:41] seems like a predicament that

[3:49:45] they put themselves in and they

[3:49:49] shouldn't be able to delay us

[3:49:49] through those kinds of tactics.

[3:49:54] I also want to just very

[3:49:54] quickly address the property

[3:49:55] rights issue.

[3:49:59] There was a deed granted on MAY

[3:50:02] 13th, 1949 that granted

[3:50:07] the parcel that is now called q

[3:50:08] Frisco to two of the five

[3:50:11] adjacent property owners which

[3:50:12] include the predecessor to

[3:50:16] the applicant and that property

[3:50:17] was granted quote subject to

[3:50:21] the right of each and every

[3:50:22] grantee in this deed and their

[3:50:26] successors and assigns.

[3:50:27] And then skipping ahead a

[3:50:31] little bit to use that property

[3:50:31] for the installation repair and

[3:50:32] replacement of public utilities

[3:50:36] and then it goes on to say said

[3:50:37] rights of said grantees are for

[3:50:41] the benefit of and are

[3:50:41] pertinent to the respective

[3:50:45] parcels of land now owned by

[3:50:46] said grantees and immediately

[3:50:47] adjoining the above described

[3:50:51] strip strip of land.

[3:50:51] So the these are rights that

[3:50:52] were granted to our clients

[3:50:56] predecessor or it was intended

[3:50:57] to be a private street for

[3:51:00] ingress and egress and also for

[3:51:01] utilities to run under

[3:51:05] the street and it gave and

[3:51:05] that's an easement whether it

[3:51:09] uses the term easement or not.

[3:51:10] But regardless the document is

[3:51:11] very clear that it gives each

[3:51:14] of the adjacent parcels

[3:51:18] the right to tap into public

[3:51:19] utilities through that street.

[3:51:20] I don't think they're going to

[3:51:23] be any question about that.

[3:51:24] The document was reviewed by

[3:51:25] not only staff but also that

[3:51:27] the city attorney's office and

[3:51:32] found sufficient.

[3:51:33] You know, it's really a

[3:51:37] specious argument that

[3:51:37] the opponents have raised.

[3:51:38] But to the extent it does have

[3:51:42] any merit, that's a private

[3:51:43] matter As a staff said in his

[3:51:47] presentation with that we're

[3:51:48] available for any questions I'm

[3:51:48] not going to address point by

[3:51:51] point everything that's been

[3:51:52] brought out.

[3:51:52] There were a lot of things

[3:51:53] brought up that are outside far

[3:51:57] outside any of the issues that

[3:51:57] were properly raised in

[3:51:58] the appeal.

[3:52:01] Questions about design and

[3:52:02] questions about noise.

[3:52:02] Those kinds of things.

[3:52:06] But we're happy to answer

[3:52:07] questions either myself or

[3:52:07] the appropriate member of

[3:52:11] the team if there are questions

[3:52:12] and further discussion is

[3:52:14] desired on any of those points.

[3:52:19] >> Thank you.

[3:52:19] >> All right.

[3:52:24] So that closes the applicant to

[3:52:25] the great.

[3:52:25] I have questions for

[3:52:26] the applicant or the appellant

[3:52:26] or my colleagues.

[3:52:31] Do you can be called up.

[3:52:32] So this is in district one.

[3:52:37] So as we traditionally do I'll

[3:52:41] take the lead on this and I'm

[3:52:42] going to ask my colleagues to

[3:52:43] bear with me on this as we kind

[3:52:46] of delve into the issues.

[3:52:47] When I was a baby engineer, my

[3:52:51] boss at that time told me make

[3:52:52] it easy for the decision maker

[3:52:55] in a way I can successfully say

[3:52:56] that neither side has done

[3:52:56] that.

[3:53:00] So I've taken a lot of notes

[3:53:01] during the course of

[3:53:01] the testimony by all

[3:53:05] the parties.

[3:53:06] So when you see me scrambling

[3:53:06] between my computer and my

[3:53:10] written notes you'll understand

[3:53:10] why.

[3:53:11] So I'm going to start out with

[3:53:12] the typical preamble as I do

[3:53:14] when I hear an appeal.

[3:53:15] I want to thank city staff.

[3:53:19] I want to thank the appellant.

[3:53:20] I want to thank the applicant

[3:53:20] for your presentations.

[3:53:21] I want to thank those who took

[3:53:24] the time to come down or spoke

[3:53:25] online or submitted comments

[3:53:25] online.

[3:53:29] I've reviewed the material

[3:53:30] attached to the docket as well

[3:53:30] as the public comments

[3:53:31] submitted online.

[3:53:34] Listen to the presentation sent

[3:53:35] by staff by appellant, by

[3:53:36] the applicant and comments by

[3:53:39] the public.

[3:53:40] i'm going to state the obvious

[3:53:41] I'm not going to make a motion

[3:53:44] for continuance.

[3:53:45] I don't understand why people

[3:53:46] didn't get that when we didn't

[3:53:46] do that at the get go.

[3:53:52] But in case there was any doubt

[3:53:53] .

[3:53:53] So here's the kind of things

[3:53:57] that have been raised that I

[3:53:57] don't find relevant to

[3:53:58] the decision in front of us

[3:54:02] today.

[3:54:02] One of them is the 1949

[3:54:03] granted.

[3:54:06] Now staff has their

[3:54:07] interpretation about that.

[3:54:12] >> I believe that the grant

[3:54:12] deed is a matter between

[3:54:13] the two parties to arbitrate

[3:54:14] among themselves in

[3:54:16] the affected parties

[3:54:21] the whether the development has

[3:54:22] the right to enter into that or

[3:54:22] not.

[3:54:23] I don't think relevant in my

[3:54:23] decision.

[3:54:26] That is the risk that

[3:54:29] the applicant is taking in this

[3:54:34] conversation.

[3:54:34] The other element that I feel

[3:54:39] kind of compelled to talk about

[3:54:39] bear with me.

[3:54:44] Like I said, I'm bouncing a

[3:54:44] little bit between all

[3:54:48] the comments things that okay

[3:54:49] staff included the applicant's

[3:54:53] rendering and its presentation

[3:54:53] .

[3:54:54] I find the rubber not a true

[3:54:58] representation of

[3:54:58] the neighborhood.

[3:54:59] The assurance community has a

[3:55:02] long history with project

[3:55:03] renderings given its unique

[3:55:03] residential zoning.

[3:55:04] Sometimes it makes the project

[3:55:07] look larger, look smaller,

[3:55:08] blending in.

[3:55:08] And for the record I'm not

[3:55:11] relying on the rendering and my

[3:55:12] review of the project documents

[3:55:13] or as part of this afternoon's

[3:55:17] discussion.

[3:55:18] >> a lot of reasons sort of

[3:55:18] rendering said okay one thing

[3:55:21] that the applicant raised and

[3:55:22] actually the applicant raised

[3:55:25] that I kind of had a question

[3:55:26] about this is for staff

[3:55:30] the ownership disclosure Who

[3:55:31] owns this property?

[3:55:32] I have to make a decision

[3:55:32] whether I have a conflict of

[3:55:36] interest, whether anybody has

[3:55:37] given me a campaign donation

[3:55:39] and my 2024 campaign who owns

[3:55:40] the property?

[3:55:44] >> Who are the legal owners

[3:55:44] With all due respect.

[3:55:45] Yes, Thank you.

[3:55:49] I need a few minutes to look

[3:55:53] for the application but I have

[3:55:54] that.

[3:55:54] Oh, I'm sorry.

[3:55:58] I have the permit to draft here

[3:55:58] .

[3:56:07] >> So it's Salem or La Hoya.

[3:56:08] >> Limited Liability company is

[3:56:12] the owner of record.

[3:56:12] >> Okay.

[3:56:13] I'm used to disclosure of

[3:56:17] individuals that are part of

[3:56:21] that ownership and I'm hearing

[3:56:22] that there are six or maybe

[3:56:26] seven owners.

[3:56:27] One of them is here today.

[3:56:30] I have here Scott Sinnott as

[3:56:31] the owner committee.

[3:56:31] >> Okay.

[3:56:35] I came in here thinking that he

[3:56:36] was the sole owner.

[3:56:44] He's not the sole owner Before

[3:56:45] this is over can you give me a

[3:56:46] list to make sure that I don't

[3:56:50] have a conflict?

[3:56:51] Council Member My name is

[3:56:51] Christian Niles.

[3:56:55] I am one of the owners of out

[3:56:56] of Lot three on lot on

[3:57:00] the proposed lot two We have

[3:57:00] scouts in it on the proposed

[3:57:04] lot one we have Adrian Diaz on

[3:57:05] the proposed lot for Webb

[3:57:10] Barbara Santiago Sula, Capell

[3:57:11] and Lot five We have Charlie

[3:57:14] and Charlie and Race and a lot

[3:57:15] six We had David and Natalia

[3:57:15] Bond.

[3:57:18] >> Okay thank you for

[3:57:19] disclosing that.

[3:57:20] I don't recognize any of those

[3:57:20] names.

[3:57:21] I feel confident that I don't

[3:57:23] have a conflict or that none of

[3:57:24] them gave me a campaign

[3:57:28] contribution as far as I can

[3:57:29] remember back in 2024 I wasn't

[3:57:37] so hard wasn't the okay those

[3:57:42] were the harder questions.

[3:57:46] Okay.

[3:57:47] So as I read through all

[3:57:54] the material over this weekend

[3:57:54] ,I will say there's been

[3:57:55] important issues raised by

[3:57:59] the appellant and I'm also

[3:58:00] encouraged that the appellant

[3:58:01] has narrowly targeted their

[3:58:03] focus especially in their

[3:58:04] letter of MAY 14th And while

[3:58:05] the language he appellant

[3:58:09] offered is not necessarily

[3:58:10] appropriate for permit

[3:58:10] conditions, I thought the tone

[3:58:11] of the scope resonate with me

[3:58:14] So I don't know about your

[3:58:15] consultants but I was able to

[3:58:17] read the thing in one day and

[3:58:18] figure out what they were

[3:58:18] talking about and understood

[3:58:22] the issues that were at risk.

[3:58:23] >> So I worked Some days maybe

[3:58:27] your consultants don't.

[3:58:28] I was also equally encouraged

[3:58:32] by the applicant's response in

[3:58:33] an undated response to

[3:58:33] the appeal as well as

[3:58:37] information that was in their

[3:58:38] slide deck which is attached to

[3:58:41] that but was not actually used

[3:58:42] .

[3:58:42] So one of the questions I want

[3:58:46] to ask to the applicant one of

[3:58:47] the things that showed up in

[3:58:50] your slide deck on Slide six

[3:58:51] was indicating that you would

[3:58:52] be securing letters of

[3:58:56] permission from the property

[3:59:00] owners along first going out.

[3:59:01] That is an important change to

[3:59:10] me is that but we have property

[3:59:10] rights to That's not what I'm

[3:59:15] asking sir in your presentation

[3:59:19] Slide six indicate that you

[3:59:20] would be securing letters of

[3:59:21] permission by the people who

[3:59:26] live along that street.

[3:59:27] Yes.

[3:59:31] Slide six was prepared by

[3:59:32] the appellant is what I'm being

[3:59:32] told.

[3:59:36] Yeah we didn't have a six slide

[3:59:44] so not you didn't show on today

[3:59:44] .

[3:59:45] Can you bring up the PowerPoint

[3:59:50] for us The we are the applicant

[3:59:51] PowerPoint so I can that way I

[3:59:51] can better understand which

[3:59:54] slide you're referring to and

[3:59:56] then I'm happy to address it

[4:00:11] and you help them go back.

[4:00:19] One of you almost had it There

[4:00:19] it is.

[4:00:24] This slide was not part of our

[4:00:24] formal presentation.

[4:00:25] We had it as a back up slide

[4:00:28] Should any questions arise.

[4:00:29] Okay it's back up material

[4:00:33] attached to this item prepared

[4:00:33] now acknowledged by you.

[4:00:34] Correct.

[4:00:38] So what am I to make of this

[4:00:39] Because this is this is kind of

[4:00:39] a big deal.

[4:00:43] >> It is And can you please

[4:00:44] repeat your question?

[4:00:47] >> So this slide as part of

[4:00:48] the slide deck that you

[4:00:48] submitted to the city as backup

[4:00:52] as material for this item shows

[4:00:53] that for each of the lots

[4:00:57] adjoining you're indicating an

[4:00:59] intent to secure letters of

[4:01:05] permission.

[4:01:06] PRESIDENT LaCava That that's

[4:01:06] not the case.

[4:01:10] We have an easement over okay

[4:01:11] I'm not asking that question.

[4:01:15] So so the easement allows us to

[4:01:15] proceed without occasion.

[4:01:16] Again, that's not the question

[4:01:17] I'm asking.

[4:01:19] I'm asking about you submitted

[4:01:20] this slide for which I was very

[4:01:25] excited about because that

[4:01:25] would show that there was some

[4:01:29] meeting of the minds.

[4:01:30] >> So you're telling me that

[4:01:33] that was a false smell At

[4:01:34] the moment we're going to have

[4:01:39] our civil engineer Dan Valdes

[4:01:39] come speak to this slide.

[4:01:40] >> Okay.

[4:01:40] Hello.

[4:01:44] Thank you, Daniel Valdez,

[4:01:45] coffee engineering engineer.

[4:01:48] I've worked for the project.

[4:01:49] A little bit of background

[4:01:50] history behind this slide.

[4:01:53] The intention of this slide

[4:01:53] wasn't to show letters of

[4:01:54] permission issues.

[4:01:58] It was intended to show

[4:01:59] the plan along here First go to

[4:02:02] the call outs for letters of

[4:02:07] permission which have blanks

[4:02:07] They you know, don't reflect

[4:02:08] any letters of commission that

[4:02:12] have actually been obtained.

[4:02:13] Yeah, they were added to this

[4:02:17] sheet was a part of

[4:02:17] the ministerial grading plan

[4:02:22] that has not yet been approved.

[4:02:22] It's currently in review with

[4:02:26] the city engineering staff.

[4:02:27] The addition of those call outs

[4:02:28] was in response to a comment

[4:02:31] that we needed to get letters

[4:02:32] of permission so it was added

[4:02:35] to a to address a comment.

[4:02:36] But as the review process

[4:02:40] proceeded our attorney

[4:02:41] determined that we did not need

[4:02:45] to get letters of permission So

[4:02:46] the final plans will not have

[4:02:52] that call out.

[4:02:52] You realize how difficult that

[4:02:53] makes it for me because now I

[4:02:54] begin to question everything

[4:02:57] you've put out there, right?

[4:02:58] This is part of the ministerial

[4:03:01] set the ministerial set to get

[4:03:02] secure grading plans.

[4:03:02] >> Correct.

[4:03:06] But until the discretionary

[4:03:07] approval comes through no

[4:03:07] ministerial plans will be

[4:03:08] approved.

[4:03:12] No, I understand that but it's

[4:03:12] a message to me.

[4:03:13] I understand that.

[4:03:17] I understand the impression

[4:03:17] that you MAY have gotten you

[4:03:18] don't have up here to provide

[4:03:19] some clarification on what it

[4:03:22] does You're looking at it.

[4:03:22] Yeah.

[4:03:23] So I'm a civil engineer so I

[4:03:25] know exactly what I'm looking

[4:03:26] at But so this is a false

[4:03:27] representation of what your

[4:03:30] intention is going forward.

[4:03:31] It's not a current

[4:03:35] representation.

[4:03:40] I won't argue the words.

[4:03:40] >> That's too bad.

[4:03:41] I thought that was a pretty big

[4:03:44] step forward So let me see if

[4:03:46] there's anything else that we

[4:03:52] can dance around.

[4:03:53] So one of the things that as I

[4:03:57] mentioned was that especially

[4:04:02] for my colleagues into staff

[4:04:03] that I struggle with it like

[4:04:04] you said, I think some of

[4:04:04] the issues raised by

[4:04:06] the appellant actually were on

[4:04:07] point And the challenge is that

[4:04:11] it's somewhat ironically it is

[4:04:12] that during the discretionary

[4:04:13] review process neighbors

[4:04:17] actually have access to more

[4:04:17] information than

[4:04:21] the ministerial process When if

[4:04:22] this project were to be

[4:04:22] approved we'd be going through

[4:04:26] grading construction or

[4:04:27] building permits because

[4:04:28] everything kind of closes in at

[4:04:31] that time.

[4:04:31] So that presented a little bit

[4:04:32] of a quandary to me because I

[4:04:35] think the issues raised that

[4:04:36] you MAY in good faith

[4:04:37] understand everything they're

[4:04:41] saying and actually actually

[4:04:41] comply with everything that

[4:04:45] they're asking for which is

[4:04:46] actually just convince us that

[4:04:46] the design that you have

[4:04:50] actually works which is I think

[4:04:55] quite a gross simplification of

[4:04:55] course.

[4:04:56] But I think at the end of

[4:04:57] the day that's what they're

[4:04:57] saying Now some of the other

[4:05:00] folks that spoke have bigger

[4:05:01] issues with the project but I

[4:05:05] think the appellant really

[4:05:06] narrowed down just saying we

[4:05:06] can't figure out your plan.

[4:05:10] The plan changing quite evident

[4:05:14] from the exchange We just had

[4:05:15] And so they're getting kind of

[4:05:15] nervous and I've done

[4:05:19] discretionary permits where you

[4:05:20] have not done everything to a

[4:05:23] position that you do during

[4:05:24] construction documents going

[4:05:24] forward.

[4:05:28] So I started thinking of a

[4:05:32] number of ideas about how to

[4:05:33] address that.

[4:05:34] I exchanged some conversations

[4:05:38] with staff and with the city

[4:05:39] attorney's office because I

[4:05:43] believe in having my ideas

[4:05:44] valid.

[4:05:44] And so while I am

[4:05:48] extraordinarily frustrated by

[4:05:49] the conversations that we've

[4:05:53] had today and in this

[4:05:54] particular hearing at the end

[4:05:54] of the day this is not about my

[4:05:59] frustration and

[4:05:59] misrepresentations a slight but

[4:06:03] whether at the end of the day

[4:06:04] that I can make the findings or

[4:06:05] not worth what the project

[4:06:09] actually is and I was very

[4:06:14] close to it no but working with

[4:06:14] staff and the city attorney's

[4:06:21] office I found that with their

[4:06:22] very detailed changes in

[4:06:27] the conditions of approval that

[4:06:32] I can get their.

[4:06:32] So with the city attorney stand

[4:06:37] ready to correct my language

[4:06:37] because sometimes I get it

[4:06:38] wrong.

[4:06:38] But the two new conditions that

[4:06:42] have been added and the four

[4:06:43] modifications that strengthen

[4:06:47] the permit I am able to make

[4:06:48] findings before I go to

[4:06:48] the motion.

[4:06:52] I do appreciate the other

[4:06:53] issues that were raised by

[4:06:53] the other testimony

[4:06:54] the neighbors, the community as

[4:06:57] a whole.

[4:06:58] I do note or I did note that

[4:07:01] the pto advisory board voted

[4:07:02] five zero to oppose the project

[4:07:03] but didn't give me

[4:07:03] the specifics by which I could

[4:07:07] actually take them into

[4:07:07] account.

[4:07:11] The cpa was not unanimous but

[4:07:12] it did vote seven four to

[4:07:13] support the project and

[4:07:16] the planning Commission as was

[4:07:17] noted also supported

[4:07:20] the project five zero And with

[4:07:25] due respect to the community

[4:07:26] members I did not file find

[4:07:27] that the testimony rose to

[4:07:30] the level Overturning

[4:07:31] the action quite a bit was made

[4:07:31] of who the owners are.

[4:07:35] We actually got that answer in

[4:07:36] this afternoon's conversation.

[4:07:40] So with that I move the staff

[4:07:41] recommendation with

[4:07:41] the amendments to permit

[4:07:46] conditions 25, 26, 31 and 45

[4:07:51] and the addition of a new

[4:07:51] tentative map condition 28 and

[4:07:55] permit condition 15 as shown in

[4:07:56] the staff presentation and that

[4:08:00] will conclude my comments.

[4:08:01] I'll turn over to my colleagues

[4:08:01] looking for a second and

[4:08:04] certainly a any questions or

[4:08:09] comments you might have.

[4:08:11] >> >> Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

[4:08:16] Let all have for a second

[4:08:16] the motion.

[4:08:16] All right.

[4:08:18] We have a second and I don't

[4:08:19] see anybody else on the lights

[4:08:25] the slide up there does right?

[4:08:25] Oh the other part was directing

[4:08:26] the city attorney to prepare

[4:08:28] the appropriate resolutions

[4:08:29] according to section 40 of

[4:08:29] the city charter.

[4:08:33] So without any other comments

[4:08:34] or questions by my colleagues

[4:08:39] again I'll thank staff the City

[4:08:39] Attorney's office,

[4:08:45] the appellant for the work they

[4:08:46] put in and the committee

[4:08:46] members this time to show up as

[4:08:47] well as the applicant In

[4:08:49] answering my questions And with

[4:08:53] that I'll call for the vote I'm

[4:08:54] sorry the voting system Please

[4:09:04] cast your vote That does pass

[4:09:05] unanimously 7 to 0 with council

[4:09:09] member Elio Rivera and

[4:09:10] Councilmember Von Wilpert

[4:09:10] absent.

[4:09:10] >> Thank you.

[4:09:11] All right.

[4:09:15] Thank you and everyone to wrap

[4:09:15] up this afternoon's meeting,

[4:09:16] does the attorney city attorney

[4:09:19] have anything to report out

[4:09:20] from yesterday's closed

[4:09:20] session?

[4:09:21] >> There's nothing to report

[4:09:21] out from closed session.

[4:09:25] Okay.

[4:09:26] That was necessary because we

[4:09:26] adjourn the afternoon In

[4:09:30] the evening session we will now

[4:09:31] adjourn council to the special

[4:09:32] council meeting on Wednesday,

[4:09:34] MAY 20th, 2026 at 9 A.M..

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