[11:21] at

[18:41] White.

[18:42] >> All right.

[18:42] Good morning.

[18:46] We're going to get started.

[18:47] I will now call the city

[18:48] council meeting of Tuesday,

[18:51] JULY 14th, 2026 to order.

[18:51] Clerk please call the roll.

[18:52] Thank you.

[18:52] Council PRESIDENT Council

[18:56] member Campbell here.

[18:57] Council Member Whitburn here.

[19:02] Council Member Foster.

[19:02] Council Member Von Wilber

[19:07] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[19:07] here Council Member Campo

[19:11] Council Member Moreno Present

[19:15] Council Member Eli Rivera and

[19:16] Council PRESIDENT LaCava.

[19:17] Present also attend the meeting

[19:21] Our city Attorney Heather

[19:21] Ferber Independent Budget

[19:26] Analyst Charles Monica and

[19:26] myself your city clerk Diana

[19:27] Fuentes.

[19:28] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[19:28] right.

[19:28] Thank you.

[19:30] A quorum is now present.

[19:31] We will begin this morning with

[19:32] the land acknowledgment and

[19:36] the Pledge of Allegiance led by

[19:36] council member Lauren Wolpert.

[19:40] Please stand if you are able.

[19:45] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[19:46] that the culmination are

[19:46] the original inhabitants of

[19:47] the Unceded land now known as

[19:50] San Diego.

[19:51] Despite enduring the horrors of

[19:51] genocide and colonization,

[19:52] the community spirit remains

[19:55] unbroken.

[19:56] We honor the resilience of

[19:56] their ancestors who fought to

[19:57] protect their culture and land.

[20:00] Today they carry the legacy

[20:01] forward ensuring that their

[20:01] traditions continue to thrive

[20:05] and gratitude and strength We

[20:06] stand at the culmination

[20:06] connected to our past and

[20:07] committed to a thriving future.

[20:10] Please turn and face the flag.

[20:11] >> Ready?

[20:11] Begin.

[20:19] But you had to give stands One

[20:24] nation under GOD indivisible

[20:29] with Clark please go over how

[20:30] the public can offer their

[20:34] testimony.

[20:35] Thank you.

[20:35] Council PRESIDENT I'd like to

[20:36] highlight the slide on

[20:37] the screen that does review how

[20:37] the public can offer their

[20:39] public testimony during today's

[20:40] meeting.

[20:40] Please note the time

[20:41] allocations for proclamations

[20:42] and consent items for meeting

[20:45] management purposes and

[20:45] the order can be found on

[20:46] the agenda Summary found online

[20:47] or at the table in the back of

[20:51] the room.

[20:52] If you are in person please

[20:52] come to the speakers up looking

[20:53] at the entrance of chambers and

[20:54] bring it to the front of

[20:55] the room and place it in

[20:55] the clear box.

[20:56] Council ambassadors are

[20:57] available near the entrance and

[20:57] can assist with questions and

[21:01] speaker slips.

[21:02] No organized presentations were

[21:02] submitted for today for any of

[21:06] the items on the agenda.

[21:07] No further in-person testimony

[21:08] will be taken once the council

[21:09] begins Virtual testimony.

[21:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[21:12] right.

[21:12] Thank you, City Clerk And as a

[21:13] reminder when you speak to an

[21:14] item on the agenda, please

[21:17] focus your comments on the item

[21:18] not agenda.

[21:18] Public comment is an

[21:19] opportunity to speak more

[21:19] freely on anything under

[21:22] the city's purview.

[21:23] With that we will now dispense

[21:24] with the approval of

[21:29] the proclamation item City

[21:29] Clerk The Pelican Period

[21:30] Proclamation is now open.

[21:33] >> Each speaker will have one

[21:33] minute per item per person.

[21:34] If you would like to speak on

[21:35] three or more items you'll have

[21:37] a maximum of three minutes.

[21:38] The proclamation items being

[21:42] approved are items 3830 1s5

[21:43] hundred s5o7 and s508

[21:44] Maximillian Schmidt If you can

[21:47] come forward you're speaking on

[21:51] items 3031 and s 500 you will

[21:52] have three minutes If I can

[21:53] have the following individuals

[21:53] please come forward to

[21:57] the yellow reserved seats Cielo

[22:02] Kim and Daniel on item as 508

[22:06] and Blair Beekman on items 30

[22:12] and as 508 Please proceed.

[22:12] Hi.

[22:13] Um I think that we should try

[22:17] to make less federal influence

[22:18] in California and give

[22:23] the power back to the state.

[22:23] I think having an entire month

[22:28] on called National Park and

[22:29] Recreation Month where I love

[22:34] the national parks but what I

[22:35] like more are the less

[22:40] expensive natural areas like

[22:41] National Forest or blm land or

[22:46] on even just local hiking

[22:51] trails where the national park

[22:51] is also one of the most

[22:52] expensive public places to go

[22:56] hiking Coincidentally so to

[22:57] have an entire month honoring

[22:58] the national park why don't we

[23:01] have a month just honoring like

[23:02] go outside and like go hiking

[23:03] Because people talk about

[23:08] the globalization of the world

[23:09] And I like to talk about

[23:10] the federalization of

[23:14] Washington dc's influence on

[23:15] and where the tax dollars are

[23:21] going exactly on in the United

[23:21] States.

[23:22] So I just would like to say

[23:27] that for San Diego to have this

[23:27] new ceremonial agenda for

[23:33] the rest of San Diego's history

[23:34] National Park and Recreation

[23:34] Month, maybe it should have

[23:40] been go outside and join nature

[23:45] because on I believe D.C. Is

[23:45] corrupt and I believe

[23:46] the federal government is

[23:50] corrupt And there's a lot

[23:51] better places on there's lot

[23:57] better places that our tax

[23:58] dollars should be going than

[23:58] straight to the federal

[24:03] government is what I believe.

[24:03] I believe that the federal

[24:04] income tax should be lower.

[24:05] I believe the national park fee

[24:08] should be lower.

[24:09] I think the discovery pass is

[24:10] too expensive.

[24:13] It's like over $100 to even

[24:14] enter the national park And

[24:14] then once you if you only go

[24:19] once it could be $23 to on

[24:25] backpack overnight where

[24:26] there's also free dispersed

[24:27] camping in places closed or

[24:27] national parks I would like to

[24:32] see our national I think

[24:32] the price of the national parks

[24:35] do make it less crowded which

[24:36] is one reason they have it.

[24:37] However, I don't want to go

[24:42] into a unhealthy habit of

[24:42] glorifying the national park

[24:43] system and how it could

[24:47] possibly be even more expensive

[24:48] And because I think

[24:49] the national parks are a great

[24:49] part of this country and I

[24:53] think it's a really special

[25:00] part and I just hope that we

[25:00] can maybe have a month

[25:05] promoting exercise and banning

[25:05] all even banning all electric

[25:06] e-bikes on the sidewalk and

[25:12] promoting exercise in San Diego

[25:13] not just for the national parks

[25:14] specifically.

[25:14] >> Thank you for that

[25:15] concluding comment.

[25:18] Cielo Kim and Daniel All

[25:22] speaking of items 508 it is one

[25:23] minute per person are you So

[25:23] it'll just be consequential So

[25:25] I'll be putting one minute for

[25:38] each time and I will ding good

[25:39] morning My name is Phil

[25:40] Offensive and I'm here because

[25:43] of Alina since ever I was in

[25:44] middle school I would always go

[25:45] to the library.

[25:50] I would do my homework and go

[25:51] read a book And Alina was

[25:57] always like very or and very

[25:58] there for the picture.

[25:59] And then I was a pitcher and I

[26:02] would go every day and then I

[26:03] slowly she started me going

[26:08] every single day And then she

[26:09] told me if I wanted to join

[26:09] council which I did And then I

[26:13] started working at the library

[26:14] But basically because of her

[26:20] I'm now a teacher and I just

[26:21] want to say thank you totally

[26:21] know for being always so kind

[26:25] and a heartwarming and being

[26:26] there for everybody and yeah

[26:26] thank you.

[26:31] Thank you.

[26:32] Interesting.

[26:32] Hello my name is Kim Williams

[26:37] speaking on behalf of all of us

[26:38] I just wanted to thank Alina

[26:39] for always being there for

[26:39] everybody for being the mother,

[26:43] the auntie of the entire Logan

[26:43] Heights community.

[26:44] Everything she does is for our

[26:49] children, for our elderly.

[26:50] >> I my favorite part of

[26:51] working with Alina is when

[26:55] people come up to me and they

[26:56] share their stories about her

[26:57] and I always ask that she make

[26:57] you laugh.

[27:02] Did she make you feel something

[27:02] that would make you cry if she

[27:03] made you cry as a child?

[27:09] >> You know that there's a big

[27:10] place you can be around to it

[27:11] But on my behalf thank you all

[27:11] enough for everything You have

[27:14] seen me grow up literally since

[27:15] I was in kindergarten.

[27:15] Now I finished my schooling and

[27:20] I'm working with her and it's

[27:20] not going to be the same.

[27:24] >> And yes, I don't think you

[27:25] Please proceed.

[27:25] >> Hello.

[27:31] My name is Daniel.

[27:32] I'm also here to congratulate

[27:32] Eileen Process.

[27:36] I moved to San Diego when I was

[27:37] 13 and I started going to

[27:38] the same local library that

[27:38] everybody else went to.

[27:43] Alina was one of the people

[27:44] that approached me got me to

[27:45] join the council.

[27:45] I certainly volunteered at

[27:46] the library.

[27:49] I worked for the library for a

[27:50] couple of years and I have

[27:50] slowly grown with the rest of

[27:51] my team.

[27:51] I honestly wouldn't be where I

[27:56] am today professionally or

[27:57] personally if it wasn't for

[27:57] Alina.

[27:58] So I just want to thank you

[27:58] from the bottom.

[28:01] Meredith, you know we love you.

[28:02] >> Thank you.

[28:07] This is where we come in If you

[28:08] can please come forward after

[28:08] that will be allegedly Andre

[28:09] and then Paul Kruger if you can

[28:15] please come up to the front row

[28:15] .

[28:16] >> Hi.

[28:22] We are Beekman I am 30 is

[28:23] National Park and Recreation

[28:23] Month.

[28:28] I think it helps a person.

[28:29] Ron Gilbert He talked about

[28:29] national park issues at this

[28:34] time last year.

[28:34] An interesting item is a lot of

[28:40] history to our national parks

[28:41] and what they've done Excuse me

[28:44] I'm Brooklyn I just had a sort

[28:50] of in our lives I wish I could

[28:51] say more.

[28:51] I take comfort in national

[28:52] parks.

[28:56] I think they're an interesting

[28:56] idea.

[29:02] Um, I think there was questions

[29:02] of what proclamation say within

[29:03] parks and the history lessons

[29:08] that do those sort of history

[29:09] lessons need revision and

[29:10] things good Look how we can be

[29:13] addressing that.

[29:14] It's a lot to understand

[29:15] the changes we're going through

[29:20] Um but look myself and others

[29:20] can figure out what those

[29:26] changes are Um, I guess we will

[29:27] at some point and for some

[29:31] things are good Hopefully some

[29:32] things from our past can stay

[29:32] and that are respectable as

[29:33] well.

[29:33] Good luck in such efforts to

[29:37] consider and for the arena

[29:43] Rosa's day thank you for this

[29:49] item Thank you It's nice that a

[29:50] librarian is being

[29:50] commemorated.

[29:55] I can't could not have gone to

[29:56] the library early today.

[29:56] It's hopeful that we're

[30:00] learning and we made a real

[30:01] commitment to make our

[30:02] libraries open all the time and

[30:02] I hope we can continue those

[30:03] efforts and how much we've

[30:07] tried recently That kind of

[30:07] subjects can be very clear to

[30:13] us in our future and sounds

[30:13] like this librarian was really

[30:14] well liked and had a good role

[30:15] in the community.

[30:21] Thank you.

[30:21] >> Allegedly.

[30:22] All right.

[30:22] You're speaking to us by way

[30:23] 3031.

[30:23] That's 505 seven.

[30:24] You'll have three minutes.

[30:24] Please proceed.

[30:29] You guys, I'm so honored that

[30:30] you're honoring me in your

[30:31] proclamations There's an order

[30:35] a national park.

[30:36] How cool is that?

[30:37] It's on the East Coast.

[30:37] But I just I knew it would come

[30:41] at some point.

[30:41] It's okay.

[30:42] You guys don't have to admit

[30:42] it.

[30:43] Yes, With National Parks let's

[30:46] talk about the things that are

[30:47] always committed here.

[30:47] So a lot of missing kids

[30:52] happened to be taken at

[30:53] national parks.

[30:54] Also a lot of unusual activity

[30:58] I know of you that read

[30:58] the Bible know about

[30:59] the naphthalene but they are

[31:00] still here.

[31:04] So that's something we need to

[31:05] be concerned about because

[31:05] they're going to be seen as

[31:06] aliens.

[31:06] That's what they're going to

[31:07] tell us.

[31:10] So just keep your eyes open and

[31:11] have some discernment.

[31:16] Yes, Micah Person I don't know

[31:17] I'm sorry.

[31:17] Day This is interesting because

[31:18] the Museum of Man turned into

[31:22] the museum of us just like men

[31:22] turned into women and we're

[31:23] erasing things.

[31:23] So I find that to be

[31:28] interesting as well.

[31:29] The cannibal museum that is

[31:29] there And speaking of missing

[31:34] children are people that are

[31:35] found in the Epstein files.

[31:40] A lot of children have been

[31:40] eaten.

[31:41] They also just kind of like to

[31:41] do it in their satanic rituals.

[31:46] It's something Hillary Clinton

[31:47] and you know that stuff that

[31:47] was found on Anthony Weiner's

[31:52] laptop pretty terrifying.

[31:52] >> a lot of guys killed

[31:53] themselves after seeing that

[31:58] But and then Coats Disease day

[31:58] I feel like there's a lot of

[31:59] things that happen to children

[32:03] and people that are manmade

[32:04] weaponization of drugs and you

[32:05] know spraying things in our

[32:10] skies or damage happens to our

[32:10] dna and things like that.

[32:11] I mean even things that people

[32:12] do to infants like putting all

[32:15] this stuff in their bodies when

[32:16] they're don't need it, that

[32:17] doesn't help.

[32:21] And then as far as the library

[32:22] goes, you know, it's like I

[32:22] have a problem that we continue

[32:27] to sexualize children and put

[32:28] up flags that are, you know,

[32:28] honoring pedophiles and

[32:34] glorifying the people who have

[32:35] sex with children which is

[32:36] actually rape because you can't

[32:41] just have sex with the child.

[32:41] But according to Scott Weiner,

[32:42] they can consent it.

[32:45] We're only, you know, ten years

[32:45] in difference age.

[32:46] But I would think that

[32:51] librarians would ensure that

[32:52] we're not teaching our children

[32:52] about sex and you know, putting

[32:57] them in a place to be groomed.

[32:58] So that's a problem to me is

[32:58] that we honor people.

[33:03] But why aren't these people

[33:03] concerned about children enough

[33:04] to protect them from things

[33:04] like this?

[33:09] And this is why all of these

[33:10] things that I've been talking

[33:11] about like the cannibal music

[33:11] like that gets normalized

[33:15] Having sex with children gets

[33:15] normalized and it's glorified

[33:16] and put over every building.

[33:20] And so if you are a victim it's

[33:21] like pretty terrifying to think

[33:22] that, you know, over a victim

[33:28] you would honor somebody who

[33:28] rapes a child.

[33:29] >> So good job.

[33:32] Paul Krueger on item 30.

[33:33] >> Oh, thank you.

[33:38] I'm really here to just speak

[33:38] very briefly about

[33:43] the ceremonial awards in

[33:44] general and to say I know

[33:45] you've heard discussion of

[33:49] moving this portion of

[33:50] the council meeting to another

[33:56] time or another day where you

[33:56] could honor those who who

[34:01] definitely deserve an honor But

[34:02] allow the floor of the council

[34:02] meeting to move faster.

[34:08] It's a very specific thing

[34:09] You're doing it, you know,

[34:10] often involves a photo op for

[34:14] for you as elected officials

[34:14] which I understand.

[34:15] But those of us who come to

[34:20] speak about more substantial

[34:21] issues sometimes wait up to an

[34:22] hour for this portion of

[34:27] the meeting and I hope that you

[34:27] will consider moving it.

[34:31] Maybe you could have it at 9:00

[34:32] or you could have it on a

[34:33] different day at a different

[34:33] time.

[34:37] Thank you.

[34:37] >> Thank you.

[34:38] That does conclude public

[34:38] comment here in council

[34:42] chambers going to those

[34:43] participating remotely 8700 if

[34:44] you can please unmute after

[34:49] that is Ernie Casco.

[34:49] Tony and Judy please proceed.

[34:50] Let me know which item or items

[34:54] you wish to speak to.

[34:57] >> 30 Excuse me 3500.

[34:58] You'll have two minutes.

[35:03] Please proceed.

[35:04] I want to begin with this

[35:09] starting this meeting at 10

[35:15] A.M. Is bumpy yet I want to say

[35:16] this We are all doing our best.

[35:25] Thank you And I know we

[35:25] shouldn't be here They are.

[35:26] I just think it's it's a

[35:32] beautiful flow so I want us to

[35:32] stay with that.

[35:33] If you believe in that too, I

[35:36] think you do too.

[35:37] On the National Parks and

[35:40] Recreation Month JULY 20th, 26

[35:41] My favorite part of Park is

[35:47] that they are a place to heal

[35:47] and return to wellbeing.

[35:48] Thank you to all the good

[35:53] people who keep our parks

[35:54] the way they are so beautiful

[35:58] for all of us It's a big job

[35:59] and my favorite national park

[36:00] is Yosemite a big thank you to

[36:06] GOD and his team for infinity

[36:10] number 500 years to year our

[36:14] martial Arts academy 30th

[36:15] anniversary Martial arts

[36:20] touches all the bases in

[36:21] fosters greatness in people of

[36:22] all ages.

[36:27] I find that in the presence of

[36:28] people who wear their special

[36:33] martial arts belts I often feel

[36:38] a very quiet present.

[36:39] I often feel a quiet presence

[36:45] of confidence power in them.

[36:45] Thank you Marshall Thomas Thank

[36:52] you MR. Thomas Kai the world

[36:52] needs more of you.

[36:57] Thank you for listening to me.

[36:58] >> I appreciate you being

[36:58] allowed to speak up to all.

[36:59] Thank you.

[36:59] Next is Ernie Casco.

[37:03] If you can please unmute and

[37:04] let me know which item or items

[37:04] you wish to speak to.

[37:05] >> Yes.

[37:05] Ernie Casco here.

[37:08] I'd like to speak on 511

[37:13] National Park and Retaliation

[37:13] on 3507 5556 I'm sorry some of

[37:19] those items that you were said

[37:20] are consent item agendas

[37:20] The park and month is

[37:25] the proclamation So then

[37:26] they'll be one minute unless

[37:27] you have something else on

[37:31] the parks.

[37:32] >> Yes I actually don't It is

[37:37] to retaliation for speaking out

[37:38] on all the proclamations I'm

[37:43] not allowed to speak So like

[37:44] what are you starting my

[37:44] minutes?

[37:45] >> Are you speaking on all

[37:49] the proclamations Because like

[37:50] I said the other items are

[37:50] retaliation on

[37:57] the proclamations I should have

[37:58] more than a minute.

[37:58] I just need you to identify

[37:59] which proclamations bravery

[38:02] speaking on all of them.

[38:02] I'll give you three minutes.

[38:03] Please proceed.

[38:06] 755 and 5655 and 56 are consent

[38:11] items sir So as 507 is just

[38:12] the proclamation.

[38:15] That's why I was giving you one

[38:16] minute.

[38:16] Well that's not enough, is it?

[38:21] Okay, well go ahead and start

[38:27] my minutes.

[38:27] >> Okay.

[38:28] I'm already Casco.

[38:33] There's been serious

[38:34] allegations brought to City

[38:35] council concerning Torrey Pines

[38:39] Blight report and I oppose

[38:39] issues Resolved.

[38:40] My first question are where

[38:45] the police reports and I have

[38:46] unanimous letters of support

[38:47] from the turnout I'm going to

[38:51] be that one that disrupts You

[38:52] said you want to speak on

[38:54] that's 5 or 7 Please speak on 5

[38:55] or 7 and then you can join us

[38:56] later this morning on that

[38:57] agenda public comment and you

[39:01] can speak on whatever you want

[39:02] to very simple rule them up

[39:03] until open public comment.

[39:03] >> Okay.

[39:07] Thank you very Joe McCarver You

[39:08] need it Tony, if you can please

[39:12] unmute and let me know which

[39:12] item or items you wish to speak

[39:17] to on the proclamation agenda

[39:18] The park You'll have a minute.

[39:23] >> Please proceed Right.

[39:24] >> I just wanted to say thank

[39:28] you wanted to say good morning

[39:29] .

[39:29] Wanted to comment on some of

[39:30] the comments that Audrey made

[39:34] appreciated the jokes,

[39:35] appreciate the levity and

[39:35] that's it.

[39:35] >> Thank you.

[39:36] Good morning.

[39:41] Thank you, Judy Strong.

[39:42] If you can please let me know

[39:42] which item or items you wish to

[39:46] speak to your final speaker of

[39:47] the five and minute timer has

[39:47] concluded.

[39:48] No additional speakers will be

[39:52] taken If you please unmute.

[39:52] >> Yes I wanted to speak to

[39:53] item 30 Park and Rickman.

[39:54] Please proceed.

[39:56] It's about this proclamation.

[40:02] It mentioned that Parks have

[40:02] power and they mentioned

[40:03] several.

[40:04] The three I was most taken with

[40:08] is the power of community where

[40:09] it offers spaces for everyone

[40:09] to gather and to celebrate and

[40:13] to heal the power of nature how

[40:14] it restores and inspires us and

[40:19] having parks around us ensure

[40:19] that everyone can have access

[40:20] to its benefits.

[40:23] And the third one the power of

[40:24] well being that park and rec

[40:28] opportunities advance our help

[40:28] and resilience and our shared

[40:29] community benefits.

[40:33] I think that those of us who

[40:34] work in public health this is

[40:35] part of the undercurrent of why

[40:38] smoke free and vape free parks

[40:39] and beaches are such an

[40:39] important part of our

[40:45] well-being For all of us as

[40:45] well as our sense of community.

[40:46] Thank you for let me share my

[40:49] thoughts.

[40:50] >> Thank you.

[40:51] And that concludes public

[40:51] comment on the proclamations.

[40:52] All right.

[40:55] Thank you, City clerk and with

[40:56] that I'll turn it over to my

[40:56] colleagues for comments and

[40:57] entertain a motion And we'll

[40:58] start with council member

[41:01] Whitman Thank you, Council

[41:01] PRESIDENT And thank you to my

[41:02] colleagues for bringing forward

[41:03] a number of meaningful

[41:06] proclamations This morning.

[41:06] There are obviously a lot of

[41:07] lederhosen fans here today I

[41:08] too will serve.

[41:11] I congratulate at a

[41:12] distinguished career in our

[41:12] library department and wish

[41:16] this process the very best at

[41:17] her retirement.

[41:17] I am honored to join Mayor

[41:18] Gloria in bringing forward a

[41:21] proclamation declaring like a

[41:22] Partizan day it recognizes 16

[41:22] years of leadership a

[41:26] transformational change at

[41:27] the Museum of Us and a park

[41:27] Under his leadership, Mr.

[41:31] Persson led the transformation

[41:32] of the San Diego Museum of Man

[41:33] into the Museum of Us, opened

[41:37] the California Tower to

[41:37] the public for the first time

[41:38] in over 80 years, expanded

[41:39] access to culture and learning

[41:42] for thousands of San Diego's

[41:43] and in doing so helped to

[41:43] provide free museum access to

[41:47] nearly 31,000 people in a

[41:47] single year.

[41:48] It He also started the museum

[41:52] to National Recognition earning

[41:53] the Kaleidoscope Award for good

[41:57] governance and becoming a two

[41:58] time finalist for the Institute

[41:59] of Museum and Library Services

[41:59] National Medal.

[42:03] His impact I would say Diego

[42:03] has really been tremendous and

[42:04] we wish him the very best as he

[42:08] moves on to tackle the next

[42:08] challenge.

[42:09] And finally just wish everybody

[42:09] a happy national park and

[42:13] recreation both to recognize

[42:14] and thank the employees of

[42:14] the city's Parks and Recreation

[42:17] department that our parks

[42:18] foundation for making our city

[42:18] parks so special And I will

[42:23] move approval of

[42:23] the proclamations.

[42:23] All right.

[42:24] Thank you, council members.

[42:25] So we have a motion by Council

[42:26] member Whitburn to move

[42:27] the proclamations and we'll go

[42:28] next to Council PRESIDENT Pro

[42:32] Tem Lee Thank you Council

[42:36] PRESIDENT First off on item 30

[42:37] I want to thank my colleagues

[42:40] I'm sorry I want to thank my

[42:41] colleagues for bringing forth

[42:41] this proclamation celebrating

[42:42] National Park and Recreation

[42:45] Month especially as we

[42:46] celebrate all that our Parks

[42:47] and recreation team here and

[42:50] the city does especially sort

[42:51] of supported by our Parks

[42:52] Foundation, which I appreciate

[42:52] seeing here today.

[42:56] Next I am going to speak to

[42:57] item s 500 where I'm proud to

[42:58] recognize Miramar Martial Arts

[43:01] Academy for its upcoming 30th

[43:01] anniversary since 1996 Miramar

[43:06] Martial Arts Academy has been a

[43:06] cornerstone of the Mira mesa

[43:07] and Miramar communities helping

[43:08] students of all ages build

[43:10] confidence, discipline,

[43:11] respect, leadership and a

[43:11] commitment to personal

[43:12] excellence through

[43:16] the traditional Korean martial

[43:16] art of Tang Sudo.

[43:17] I would also like to recognize

[43:20] Master Thomas Tai for his

[43:21] extraordinary leadership and

[43:24] dedication over the past three

[43:24] decades.

[43:25] Through his mentorship more

[43:26] than 160 students have achieved

[43:29] this distinguished rank of

[43:29] Black belt and countless

[43:30] families have been positively

[43:34] impacted by the values and life

[43:34] lessons taught at the Academy.

[43:35] His commitment to excellence is

[43:39] reflected not only in

[43:40] the success of his students but

[43:40] also in his achievements as a

[43:43] member of the su Burrito U.S.

[43:44] National team and as a master

[43:44] instructor.

[43:48] It's no surprise that many

[43:49] families in our community have

[43:49] often referenced the positive

[43:50] impact of Master Tai and his

[43:53] team have had on young people

[43:53] every day.

[43:54] >> And so as we celebrate

[43:57] Miramar Martial Arts Academy's

[43:57] 30th anniversary, we recognize

[43:58] its enduring legacy of

[44:01] community service excellence,

[44:02] mentorship and empowerment.

[44:02] And with that we're proud to

[44:06] proclaim AUGUST 15th, 2026 to

[44:10] be Miramar Martial Arts Academy

[44:11] 30th anniversary day in

[44:11] the city of San Diego Since

[44:12] Master Tom Cy is actually here

[44:15] in the audience I wanted to

[44:15] just invite you up if you

[44:16] wanted to share any remarks for

[44:24] a moment.

[44:25] Thank you.

[44:30] Just want to say thank you for

[44:30] acknowledging us and giving us

[44:34] this opportunity.

[44:35] You know, 30 years ago when I

[44:39] started the studio I was just a

[44:39] kind of last kid just got out

[44:40] of college, just got laid off

[44:44] from work, didn't have any

[44:45] where to go And it was just

[44:49] the passion and the art art and

[44:50] I just want to try it out and

[44:53] and I'm just happy that it's

[44:54] been here this long and got an

[44:58] opportunity to work with

[44:59] everyone and really in an honor

[45:03] to be here and to to be able to

[45:04] accept to acknowledge this.

[45:08] So thank you very much.

[45:08] >> Thank you.

[45:11] Next on item 507, I want to

[45:12] thank Councilmember Campbell

[45:13] for joining me on this

[45:16] proclamation recognizing Coates

[45:17] Disease Awareness Day.

[45:17] If many of you and these

[45:18] chambers have not heard of

[45:21] Coates disease before it,

[45:22] that's exactly why this item is

[45:22] important.

[45:25] Coates disease is a rare

[45:26] congenital and non hereditary

[45:27] eye disorder characterized by

[45:30] abnormal development of blood

[45:31] vessels in the retina resulting

[45:32] in trauma damage blindness or

[45:36] even removal of the eyes.

[45:37] A common disease a common sign

[45:41] of the disease is Luca chorea

[45:41] an abnormal white reflection of

[45:45] the retina and symptoms usually

[45:46] begin with blurred vision in

[45:47] one eye which is made more

[45:49] pronounced with one eye closed

[45:49] an early warning sign that's

[45:50] often seen especially with

[45:54] youth is yellow eyes in flash

[45:55] photography which is caused by

[45:59] light reflecting off

[46:00] the cholesterol deposits in

[46:00] the eye.

[46:03] And so if you see that that's

[46:04] something to be aware of

[46:05] observed each year on AUGUST

[46:08] 17th Coast disease awareness

[46:09] Day shines a light on this rare

[46:09] disease that does not yet have

[46:12] a cure and affects over 200,000

[46:13] people in the United States

[46:13] including thousands in San

[46:17] Diego.

[46:18] We also recognize those

[46:19] affected by Cote's disease and

[46:22] having their stories told and

[46:22] their journeys shared.

[46:23] And I'd like to specifically

[46:27] thank Paula Henning who's here

[46:28] in the audience with us.

[46:28] Paul, a regular attendee of

[46:29] the Mare Mesa Town Council.

[46:32] She's helped to bring forward

[46:33] this proclamation as a member

[46:33] of the community each year and

[46:36] she has often shared her story

[46:37] as someone who personally

[46:38] understands the significant

[46:40] impact of Curt's disease.

[46:41] And Paula, similarly if you'd

[46:42] like to come forward and share

[46:58] a few words.

[46:58] Yeah.

[46:58] Thank you, Council members.

[47:03] I'm sorry If you can speak into

[47:06] a microphone, you can pull them

[47:07] .

[47:07] There you go.

[47:08] Thank you so much.

[47:08] Thank you.

[47:17] And I do have a grandson that

[47:17] was diagnosed with the disease

[47:18] in 2008.

[47:21] It has been a very devastating

[47:26] journey but he has progressed

[47:26] pretty good with it.

[47:31] He now as of the last year

[47:31] become blind in one eye.

[47:35] And what's sad about these

[47:36] little kids, they don't get

[47:40] the diagnosis or the treatment

[47:40] that they have.

[47:41] A lot of them are in

[47:44] underprivileged communities

[47:45] that don't have the eye

[47:46] examinations.

[47:50] And like DR. MR. Kant said,

[47:51] just a flash photography

[47:55] parents can take a flash

[47:55] photography and see the glow of

[47:58] the white or the yellow eye

[47:59] which is extremely important to

[48:03] have diagnosed.

[48:08] It is very expensive for these

[48:09] kids to go through a disease

[48:13] regimen.

[48:14] And there's not that many

[48:18] people in San Diego which I

[48:19] hate to say a lot of

[48:19] the pediatricians and

[48:22] the ophthalmologists are still

[48:23] unaware of this condition which

[48:28] needs to be addressed to help

[48:29] these kids because it's sad to

[48:33] see a child lose their vision

[48:34] or even lose their eye because

[48:37] of it.

[48:38] But I want to thank the council

[48:42] here and I want to mention that

[48:46] San Diego was the first city to

[48:51] have the parkland Action for

[48:52] Coats Disease Awareness in

[48:52] the United States.

[48:56] So thank you.

[48:57] And I want to thank you for

[49:01] bringing this proclamation on

[49:05] AUGUST 17th of 2026 to bring

[49:05] this awareness to the facility

[49:10] to the communities.

[49:10] Thank you.

[49:11] One of the things really goes

[49:15] to Holland the for her

[49:16] leadership and her advocacy on

[49:17] this front.

[49:21] That concludes my remarks about

[49:21] PRESIDENT.

[49:22] Thank you.

[49:22] All right.

[49:23] My second that Oh yes, I will

[49:23] second the proclamation.

[49:25] All right.

[49:26] So we have a motion by

[49:27] Councilmember Whipper and

[49:27] the second by council PRESIDENT

[49:28] Pro Tem Lee.

[49:29] And we'll go next to council

[49:30] member Campbell.

[49:30] >> Thank you so much, Council

[49:31] PRESIDENT.

[49:34] Congratulations to everyone

[49:35] receiving plaques today.

[49:39] And I'm very happy to join my

[49:40] colleague council PRESIDENT Pro

[49:43] Tem Lee in proclaiming AUGUST

[49:44] 17th to be Coates Wear Coach

[49:48] Disease Awareness Day.

[49:49] In recognition of those who

[49:50] suffer from this rare disease,

[49:54] Coates Disease was discovered

[49:54] by ophthalmologist named George

[49:58] Coates in 1908.

[49:59] It occurs in young childhood

[50:03] and the cause is blood vessels

[50:03] in the eyes that develop

[50:08] abnormally resulting in eye

[50:08] trauma and loss of vision.

[50:09] There is no known cure for it

[50:13] but for those fortunate enough

[50:13] to catch it early treatment can

[50:17] sometimes slow the progression

[50:18] and help the symptoms.

[50:18] It's especially important to

[50:22] continue to raise awareness

[50:22] about lesser known diseases

[50:23] like Coates Disease.

[50:27] There are people in San Diego

[50:27] who live with Coates disease.

[50:28] And we must do everything we

[50:32] can to support them and their

[50:32] families.

[50:33] And thank you for all you have

[50:33] done to bring awareness.

[50:36] But by continuing to raise

[50:37] the awareness about this

[50:41] disease we can help to support

[50:42] research and make progress in

[50:42] treating and as soon as

[50:46] possible in curing this

[50:47] disease.

[50:47] Thank you.

[50:47] Council PRESIDENT.

[50:51] All right.

[50:52] Thank you, Council Mayor

[50:52] Campbell.

[50:53] We'll go next to council member

[50:55] Eli Rivera.

[50:56] >> All right.

[50:57] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.

[51:01] I want to start by thanking my

[51:01] colleagues for bringing forward

[51:02] these proclamations and say

[51:06] congratulation to all

[51:06] the recipients.

[51:07] Very quickly before I speak to

[51:11] to National Parks and

[51:12] Recreation but I did want to

[51:13] say thank you to MISS Rosas for

[51:15] her service to this city.

[51:16] The stories that we heard this

[51:20] morning in public comment were

[51:20] an incredible testament to

[51:24] the impact that librarians can

[51:25] make the libraries can make

[51:29] public employees can make and

[51:29] obviously the impact that

[51:34] you've made has been incredible

[51:35] and is just such a testament to

[51:39] the value of public service and

[51:40] why we appreciate those of you

[51:40] who've stayed with the city for

[51:44] such a long time.

[51:45] These are lifelong memories.

[51:45] I'm hearing that there are

[51:49] folks who are now educators

[51:49] because of the interactions

[51:50] that they had with you growing

[51:50] up.

[51:53] That's just incredibly

[51:54] inspiring to me And so I want

[51:54] to say thank you.

[51:58] As for National Park and

[52:02] Recreation Month, I will start

[52:03] by again thank you, my

[52:04] colleagues for bringing this

[52:08] forward with us.

[52:08] >> Parks are more than just

[52:09] green spaces.

[52:09] They're where community

[52:12] happens, where families gather

[52:13] ,kids find joy and neighbors

[52:13] come together across cultures

[52:17] and in too many neighborhoods

[52:17] access to safe quality parks

[52:18] has been treated like a luxury.

[52:22] But public space is not a

[52:22] privilege.

[52:22] It's a right.

[52:23] And every San Diego and in

[52:24] every zip code of our city

[52:27] deserves a clean welcoming

[52:27] place to connect, heal and

[52:28] thrive.

[52:28] Parks are essential

[52:31] infrastructure not only for

[52:32] public health but for climate

[52:32] resilience.

[52:35] And as we fight for

[52:36] environmental justice, we need

[52:36] to invest in green spaces that

[52:37] protect the people, protect

[52:41] people and protect our

[52:41] environment.

[52:42] Year after year our parks and

[52:46] recreation staff have been

[52:46] asked to do more with less.

[52:47] And nonetheless they still

[52:51] continue to show up for our

[52:51] communities.

[52:52] And as a result every day youth

[52:56] and families in San Diego form

[52:57] connections and memories that

[52:57] they will carry with them

[52:58] through the rest of our lives.

[53:00] And our elders are able to

[53:01] connect with one another and

[53:05] continue to find community.

[53:05] And none of this would be

[53:06] possible without Parks and Rec

[53:10] staff and the organizations

[53:10] that support them.

[53:11] I want to make sure I provide

[53:14] special thanks to the park

[53:14] Foundation and private

[53:15] charities for everything that

[53:19] you do to advocate for and

[53:20] invest in our park and rec

[53:21] system and to our parks and rec

[53:24] team here at the city.

[53:25] Thank you for strengthening our

[53:25] communities through hosting

[53:28] cultural celebrations, for

[53:29] cultivating relationships and

[53:30] uplifting our neighborhoods and

[53:33] all of their beautiful

[53:33] diversity.

[53:34] So let's celebrate our parks,

[53:38] honor the public servants who

[53:38] maintain them and recommit to

[53:39] building a San Diego where

[53:42] every child and every family

[53:48] has access to nature, joy and

[53:48] community.

[53:49] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[53:49] All right.

[53:50] Thank you, Council member

[53:50] Sheila Rivera.

[53:51] We'll go next to council member

[53:52] Moreno Thank you.

[53:53] >> I have comments on item 30.

[53:58] National Park and Rec month and

[54:01] also item s5a1 Elinor Rosas de

[54:02] item 30 celebrates parks and

[54:07] RECs across the nation.

[54:07] And I believe that access to

[54:08] parks helps create and maintain

[54:11] healthy communities physically

[54:12] but also mentally green spaces

[54:16] throughout our communities

[54:17] helps lessen the impact also of

[54:18] climate change and helps

[54:22] provide shade and cooler areas

[54:22] for people The people of

[54:25] District eight absolutely love

[54:26] and enjoy all the parks

[54:30] throughout our communities from

[54:31] Chicano Park and Memorial Park

[54:32] in the north to Montgomery,

[54:35] Waller and Cesar Solis in

[54:35] the South.

[54:38] But we need more parks in

[54:39] District eight.

[54:39] I am very proud to have built

[54:43] parks where there were once

[54:44] empty lots.

[54:45] Those empty lots are now being

[54:49] transformed to buyer Park

[54:49] Rivera del Sol Park, Hidden

[54:54] Trails Park and Grove Park.

[54:55] Rivera del Sol which was a

[54:58] vacant lot for 20 years, was

[54:58] recently opened in

[54:59] the community of Oceanview

[55:03] Hills and this year we expect

[55:04] Phase one of Beier Park to

[55:07] become an it b to become open

[55:08] to the public which will be a

[55:12] major victory for the people of

[55:13] San Ysidro who have long

[55:16] watched this site sit unused

[55:17] for three decades now It will

[55:21] be a focus of community

[55:21] activity.

[55:22] Also Hidden Trails Park is

[55:26] under construction and Grove

[55:26] Avenue Park is fully funded as

[55:31] of JANUARY eight and should be

[55:32] out to bid.

[55:32] I think it's really interesting

[55:36] because we have the Park and

[55:37] Rec Foundation here and when

[55:37] they asked me to give them a

[55:41] tour of our parks I took them

[55:42] to Grove Avenue Park and we

[55:45] went inside to the vacant lot

[55:46] and everybody looked around and

[55:51] was like Why do you why did you

[55:51] bring us here?

[55:52] And I told them I brought you

[55:55] here because I want you to feel

[55:56] what District eight residents

[56:00] feel And I think that was very

[56:00] powerful And that's why

[56:01] hopefully what we broke ground

[56:05] in JANUARY and I expect that

[56:06] we're in bed But I won't ask

[56:09] right now.

[56:10] In the last seven years we've

[56:13] also refurbished five existing

[56:14] parks That's Memorial Coral

[56:18] Gate Robert Eggers, Senior

[56:19] South Bay Sherman Heights and

[56:19] Colonel Solomon.

[56:23] The more parks we have

[56:24] the stronger and healthier our

[56:24] communities are And I will

[56:25] continue to be a fierce

[56:28] advocate to make sure our

[56:29] residents have access to parks

[56:29] in the neighborhoods.

[56:33] So I'm absolutely honored to

[56:34] co-sponsor this proclamation

[56:34] with Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[56:38] Foster and Isla Rivera as we

[56:42] proclaim JULY as National Park

[56:43] and Rec month in the City of

[56:48] San Diego Item as s508 is MISS

[56:52] Elinor Rosas day MISS Elinor

[56:53] Rosas will be retiring from

[56:56] Logan Heights Library in early

[56:57] AUGUST after 40 years of public

[56:57] service to the San Diego Public

[57:01] Library System and to the Logan

[57:02] Heights community.

[57:06] MISS Rosas began her career at

[57:07] the Logan Heights Library in

[57:10] 1988 when the library was small

[57:11] but mighty.

[57:11] MISS Rosas has played a

[57:15] significant role in the history

[57:16] of the Logan Heights Library.

[57:16] She played a role in the grant

[57:20] development process and even

[57:21] helped plan the grand opening

[57:21] of the new Logan Heights

[57:25] Library that sits just about

[57:30] 200 yards away from the old

[57:30] Logan Heights Library.

[57:31] MISS Rosa has brought a

[57:34] thoughtful library and programs

[57:35] to the community such as

[57:35] bilingual library programing

[57:39] for people of all ages and

[57:39] hosted Mother's Day

[57:44] celebrations at the library In

[57:44] 2020 she helped host the

[57:49] League baseball player Travel

[57:49] exhibition and a panel as part

[57:54] of as part of the Black History

[57:54] Month.

[57:55] There was a panel that was very

[57:56] enlightening to see some of

[57:59] the players that are still

[57:59] alive and also not forgetting

[58:04] what Lou what Logan Heights

[58:04] was.

[58:05] It wasn't just a Latino

[58:06] community but it was an African

[58:09] American community as well and

[58:09] still is.

[58:10] And for many years she also

[58:13] coordinated coordinated annual

[58:18] free tax preparation events.

[58:19] >> Earlier this year she helped

[58:19] coordinate a nationally

[58:20] significant event with

[58:23] the United States Postal

[58:24] Service to unveil the first low

[58:28] rider stamp here in Logan

[58:28] Heights Library.

[58:28] She's MS..

[58:32] Rosa has has earned a loving

[58:33] name as the Logan librarian for

[58:34] her deep and authentic sense of

[58:37] community.

[58:38] She has served several

[58:39] generations of Logan Heights

[58:42] residents who grew up in

[58:43] the library.

[58:43] And as you heard from public

[58:47] testimony, Logan Heights

[58:48] Library is not just your

[58:48] regular library it's community

[58:52] where innovation happens and

[58:52] it's a cultural hub.

[58:56] >> MS. Rosa has served on

[58:57] the on several committees

[58:58] including Library Rewards and

[59:02] Recognition community Committee

[59:02] as a founding member and later

[59:03] was nominated to serve on

[59:07] the San Diego Public Library's

[59:08] Tactical Plan Committee.

[59:08] MISS Rosa, thank you for your

[59:12] continue service for District

[59:12] eight.

[59:17] I think you exemplify the very

[59:18] best of the City of San Diego

[59:22] Employee You're loving your

[59:22] caring and you're a dedicated

[59:23] public servant and I thank you

[59:26] from the bottom of my heart for

[59:27] serving San Diego the way that

[59:31] you did.

[59:32] And I also want to note one of

[59:36] the managers once wrote MISS

[59:37] Olina is a role model for every

[59:41] city employee and exemplifies a

[59:42] standard of excellence that all

[59:43] employees strive for in a city

[59:46] career.

[59:47] And we're lucky to have her

[59:48] devoted service.

[59:52] Thank you for your dedication.

[59:52] So congratulations MS..

[59:53] Rosas on your service and I

[59:55] would like to invite you if you

[1:00:05] would like to say a few words.

[1:00:10] I wrote something down.

[1:00:11] >> Thank you, Councilmember

[1:00:11] Moreno.

[1:00:15] And I'm really I'm really proud

[1:00:19] and to have served the city for

[1:00:20] this length of time And I want

[1:00:25] to say that I was born in Logan

[1:00:25] Heights, grew up in Logan

[1:00:30] Heights, Logan Heights, the old

[1:00:30] Logan High Slavery was my

[1:00:31] childhood library I went to

[1:00:34] then Lowell Elementary no

[1:00:35] Perkins Elementary so we used

[1:00:39] to walk to the old library when

[1:00:40] I was a child and this is

[1:00:42] actually my second time

[1:00:43] addressing the council.

[1:00:44] The first time was in 1980.

[1:00:48] Some people in this room a lot

[1:00:48] of people in this room weren't

[1:00:49] even born yet.

[1:00:53] So and that was when I was

[1:00:53] involved with the barrio

[1:00:54] Station where I learned

[1:00:58] community service from Rachel.

[1:00:58] So she was a great teacher When

[1:01:03] I started at the Logan Heights

[1:01:03] Library.

[1:01:04] MR. 1 or 2 years was actually

[1:01:07] my first supervisor and biggest

[1:01:08] point the first thing he wanted

[1:01:12] me to learn was that we had to

[1:01:13] give the service to

[1:01:13] the community that it was not

[1:01:14] just a place where you went to

[1:01:17] look at books, check out books

[1:01:18] that we need it to give people

[1:01:21] a feeling of community, a

[1:01:22] feeling of family welcoming to

[1:01:26] everybody every single day.

[1:01:27] And when kids would act up one

[1:01:28] day he said okay, tomorrow when

[1:01:28] they walk in the door you

[1:01:31] pretend nothing happened.

[1:01:32] It's a brand new day and you

[1:01:33] welcome them again.

[1:01:36] You give them a chance and just

[1:01:36] give them direction.

[1:01:37] A lot of these kids just need

[1:01:41] direction So he allowed me to

[1:01:42] share my experience, my

[1:01:42] connections with the community

[1:01:45] I work with a federation,

[1:01:46] the barrio station.

[1:01:47] I had friends that worked in

[1:01:50] different organizations and

[1:01:51] those connections actually

[1:01:55] proved really important when we

[1:01:56] were working on the grant for

[1:01:59] the new building because they

[1:02:00] were able to give us letters of

[1:02:05] partnership letters agreeing to

[1:02:05] work with us after we opened

[1:02:06] during the during

[1:02:14] the construction I don't know

[1:02:15] so many things and so many

[1:02:19] things to say as the my kids my

[1:02:23] library kids told you we've had

[1:02:24] all these kids coming through

[1:02:25] experiencing all these things,

[1:02:28] sharing their lives with us.

[1:02:29] Parents have come back years

[1:02:32] later telling us the impact

[1:02:33] that we had on their lives

[1:02:34] unknowing to us because they

[1:02:37] didn't share with us what they

[1:02:38] were going through.

[1:02:39] But they said that us opening

[1:02:39] the space to them, sharing

[1:02:43] programing, arts and crafts,

[1:02:43] storytelling you know things

[1:02:44] how we were you know we were

[1:02:48] just you know, providing

[1:02:48] services to the community and

[1:02:52] it was allowing them an escape

[1:02:53] from whatever was going on at

[1:02:56] home And then with us sharing

[1:02:57] what we knew that was going on

[1:02:58] in the community services that

[1:02:59] were available to them, they

[1:03:02] were able to get out of that

[1:03:02] situation or improve their

[1:03:06] situation, get food, get

[1:03:07] served, get legal services,

[1:03:11] domestic violence assistance

[1:03:12] all these things you know,

[1:03:12] people come back later and tell

[1:03:16] us these things and it makes

[1:03:16] everything seem worthwhile what

[1:03:20] we do every day and I run into

[1:03:21] parents at the grocery store at

[1:03:26] Costco and then they there was

[1:03:27] a mom Oh she says let me show

[1:03:27] you pictures.

[1:03:29] My daughter just graduated from

[1:03:30] medical school.

[1:03:30] There's teachers in

[1:03:35] the community that grew up at

[1:03:35] the library.

[1:03:36] They're now teachers, they're

[1:03:36] principals.

[1:03:39] They're in neighborhood schools

[1:03:45] Emerson, Lincoln, you know, all

[1:03:46] you know, all our local schools

[1:03:46] they were kids that went to

[1:03:49] the library And you know,

[1:03:50] people that are administrators

[1:03:54] We have doctors to use.

[1:03:55] One of the moms told me her son

[1:03:56] has a Ph.D. And I was I can't

[1:03:59] remember what science with some

[1:04:00] sort of science There was a

[1:04:00] young man that came to the old

[1:04:03] library right before we closed

[1:04:04] .

[1:04:05] He wanted to see it one last

[1:04:05] time before it was closed

[1:04:06] because he was in the army and

[1:04:09] he was overseas and he was

[1:04:10] telling me all about how

[1:04:10] the library had really inspired

[1:04:13] him And he came back and talked

[1:04:14] about that.

[1:04:15] So I just want to say in

[1:04:18] closing that I hope the city

[1:04:18] can continue providing our

[1:04:23] communities the opportunity to

[1:04:24] access these services by having

[1:04:28] a place that's a place where

[1:04:33] they can go and you know, take

[1:04:34] part in all of these

[1:04:34] activities.

[1:04:35] And and I ask that you continue

[1:04:38] to search for ways to help

[1:04:39] the communities and help

[1:04:43] the staff because difficult

[1:04:43] times that we've gone through

[1:04:44] and I've seen a lot in the time

[1:04:48] I've been there, you know, we

[1:04:48] persevered and we try to

[1:04:53] continue giving people the same

[1:04:53] level of service And it does

[1:04:54] impact not only the public but

[1:04:57] also staff.

[1:04:58] But I want to thank you very

[1:04:59] much for this acknowledgment.

[1:05:02] Thank thank you.

[1:05:06] >> I also I would want I want

[1:05:07] to recognize our library

[1:05:08] director Misty Jones for being

[1:05:11] here.

[1:05:12] >> I thought I saw her this

[1:05:13] morning and that concludes my

[1:05:13] comments.

[1:05:16] Thank you.

[1:05:17] Thank you, Councilmember

[1:05:17] Moreno.

[1:05:21] And we'll go next to

[1:05:21] Councilmember Foster.

[1:05:22] >> Yes, Thank you.

[1:05:26] Council PRESIDENT, Just quickly

[1:05:26] want to say congratulations to

[1:05:30] all of the proclamation

[1:05:31] recipients.

[1:05:31] It's always good to take a

[1:05:35] moment out to acknowledge

[1:05:36] the good work of organizations

[1:05:41] and individuals Um, I call it

[1:05:42] the heartbeat of the city,

[1:05:42] right?

[1:05:43] And always always need to give

[1:05:46] that acknowledgment in National

[1:05:50] Park and Recreation Month.

[1:05:51] Hopefully since I've been on

[1:05:55] this council I've effectively

[1:05:56] conveyed just how important

[1:06:00] Park and Rec is to me how

[1:06:01] important park and rec is to

[1:06:05] district for um you know these

[1:06:10] spaces um quite honestly are

[1:06:11] more than parks and they're

[1:06:14] where fellowship happens There

[1:06:14] where community comes together

[1:06:15] where neighbors can meet

[1:06:19] neighbors and folks can

[1:06:19] celebrate.

[1:06:24] We just had a main event this

[1:06:28] weekend at Marie Whitman Park,

[1:06:29] the 2026 Encanto Block Party a

[1:06:33] music festival.

[1:06:34] I must say it was a very

[1:06:38] touching time for me as a as a

[1:06:42] young boy that grew up in

[1:06:42] District four that was familiar

[1:06:47] with the Encanto Street Fair.

[1:06:48] Um, for those that don't know

[1:06:52] that that name we can't use it

[1:06:52] was copyrighted.

[1:06:53] Um, but one of the things we

[1:06:57] set out to do was to figure out

[1:06:58] how can we bring that back And

[1:07:01] it came back in the under

[1:07:02] the auspices of the 2026

[1:07:06] Encanto Block party And I must

[1:07:09] say we probably had um well

[1:07:10] over a thousand people that

[1:07:14] came out to the park all ages,

[1:07:15] all ethnicities And I must say

[1:07:19] it was just truly, truly a

[1:07:20] beautiful beautiful event And

[1:07:25] um, that's why Parks and Rec is

[1:07:26] so important to me And it's not

[1:07:28] just one park and District

[1:07:28] four.

[1:07:29] We got a lot of things going on

[1:07:30] and I just want to say thank

[1:07:33] you to the Parks Foundation.

[1:07:38] Um, ever since you stood up as

[1:07:42] an organization um I must say

[1:07:42] you've been focused on District

[1:07:47] four bringing in events to

[1:07:48] the district movies in the park

[1:07:52] movies at night all the events

[1:07:52] that you do is just really been

[1:07:53] about community.

[1:07:57] Um, I think I see Michelle in

[1:07:57] the audience and in chambers

[1:08:01] and he always says until

[1:08:02] the Park Foundation was stood

[1:08:02] up we didn't have those

[1:08:03] amenities right?

[1:08:06] Councilmember We didn't have

[1:08:07] movies in the park.

[1:08:08] We didn't have a place for

[1:08:12] young folks, young families to

[1:08:12] go on those Friday nights or

[1:08:16] those Saturday nights.

[1:08:17] So I'll just thank you for

[1:08:17] that.

[1:08:18] I also would like to thank San

[1:08:21] Diego fc for all the things

[1:08:21] that they are doing,

[1:08:22] the investments they're

[1:08:26] bringing to the park.

[1:08:26] I'm really interested in park

[1:08:27] and what we just did in our

[1:08:27] hard core.

[1:08:31] It's just amazing, amazing

[1:08:31] work, beautiful work and so

[1:08:35] just really thankful Also

[1:08:36] thankful to the Parks and Rec

[1:08:41] staff for everything that they

[1:08:41] do.

[1:08:42] Um, you know it was up to me I

[1:08:45] might have every park open

[1:08:46] every hour of the day, lights

[1:08:51] in every park and just really

[1:08:51] bring a community together.

[1:08:52] So just really want to shout

[1:08:56] out National Park and

[1:08:56] Recreation Month and I'm going

[1:08:57] to continue to make sure we

[1:09:00] have our parks and rec

[1:09:01] facilities open.

[1:09:01] So that's how important this is

[1:09:06] to me making sure that we're

[1:09:06] making the appropriate upgrades

[1:09:07] and investments so that every

[1:09:10] family, every family has a

[1:09:11] place to go when they want to

[1:09:12] fellowship, have fun and just

[1:09:17] relax and and and love on one

[1:09:17] another.

[1:09:18] So congratulations and just

[1:09:21] thank you so much.

[1:09:22] And that concludes my comments.

[1:09:23] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[1:09:23] Thank you Councilmember Foster

[1:09:27] I think everyone's had a chance

[1:09:32] to speak Who wants to I'll

[1:09:32] offer a few comments myself.

[1:09:33] I'll start out with a response

[1:09:37] to one of the public commenters

[1:09:38] .

[1:09:38] Proclamations are part of

[1:09:39] the official business of

[1:09:40] the city of San Diego the city

[1:09:40] Council.

[1:09:43] It is a brown Act requirement

[1:09:43] that we do things out a notice

[1:09:48] to public hearing and I think

[1:09:49] Council then council PRESIDENT

[1:09:49] Eli Rivera wisely moved

[1:09:53] the proclamations up front And

[1:09:54] then when I took over I

[1:09:55] codified it so that we would do

[1:09:55] that.

[1:09:59] So you would have a time clock

[1:10:00] when you show up you wouldn't

[1:10:02] show up in the morning for

[1:10:03] the 2:00 session If you want to

[1:10:04] speak on the consent items

[1:10:09] probably I want to show up at

[1:10:09] 10:00 because we know we're

[1:10:10] going to go through the box.

[1:10:12] It's probably gonna take 45

[1:10:13] minutes an hour to do that But

[1:10:13] I think it is one of

[1:10:14] the special things that this

[1:10:17] city does as my colleagues

[1:10:18] mentioned is an opportunity to

[1:10:19] highlight something that maybe

[1:10:20] the general public doesn't know

[1:10:23] about or to recognize someone

[1:10:23] who has been in that long

[1:10:24] standing and city employee.

[1:10:28] So I always appreciate that And

[1:10:29] to the items it throws off it

[1:10:30] is always a sad day when we

[1:10:34] lose someone who is so beloved

[1:10:35] as a librarian But it's also a

[1:10:36] joyful day because now you get

[1:10:39] to enjoy all that hard work and

[1:10:40] the reward of retirement.

[1:10:40] So the best of luck in

[1:10:45] retirement and I'll speak on

[1:10:45] item 13 National Park and

[1:10:46] Recreation Month.

[1:10:50] As my colleague said in

[1:10:50] partnership with Councilmembers

[1:10:51] Foster Councilmember Moreno and

[1:10:52] Councilmember Eli Rivera, we

[1:10:56] proclaim the month of JULY 2026

[1:10:57] to be National Park and

[1:10:57] Recreation Month in the city of

[1:11:02] San Diego.

[1:11:02] Our parks at the heart of what

[1:11:03] makes San Diego the amazing

[1:11:04] place that it is from being

[1:11:07] the gathering place for

[1:11:08] neighborhood events sports to a

[1:11:08] place where people of all ages

[1:11:09] can enjoy being in our

[1:11:12] community and the outdoors.

[1:11:13] And all of this would not be

[1:11:14] possible without the public

[1:11:18] service of the employees of our

[1:11:19] Parks and Recreation Department

[1:11:19] who make it their mission to

[1:11:20] ensure that our green spaces

[1:11:24] are healthy, sustainable and

[1:11:25] enriching for every visitor in

[1:11:26] San Diego And I will give a

[1:11:30] shout out to the work to

[1:11:31] the Parks and Recreation

[1:11:31] Department is done in my

[1:11:32] district District one but also

[1:11:35] in particular what the Parks

[1:11:36] Foundation has done in District

[1:11:36] one as well.

[1:11:37] And while they've done amazing

[1:11:41] work in our under-resourced

[1:11:42] communities, we're certainly

[1:11:43] grateful in District one that

[1:11:47] you helped make possible

[1:11:48] separate turf tracking of

[1:11:49] the Scripps Park as well as us

[1:11:53] playground over at Fan Well

[1:11:53] Street Park nice additions for

[1:11:58] those particular neighborhoods

[1:11:59] to enjoy what the city has to

[1:11:59] offer.

[1:12:00] So thank you to everyone with

[1:12:01] the Parks and Recreation

[1:12:04] Department nonprofit

[1:12:05] organizations and volunteers

[1:12:05] for making San Diego more

[1:12:06] welcoming and accessible for

[1:12:10] all to enjoy.

[1:12:11] And with that we have a motion

[1:12:17] by council member Whitburn and

[1:12:17] a second by Council PRESIDENT

[1:12:18] Pro Tem Lee.

[1:12:22] Please call the roll I'm sorry

[1:12:23] the voting system Please cast

[1:12:28] your vote that passes

[1:12:29] unanimously 8 to 0 with

[1:12:29] Councilmember Campo absent.

[1:12:30] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[1:12:30] All right.

[1:12:33] Thank you.

[1:12:34] And we will now pause for

[1:12:35] photos.

[1:12:35] Now we're going to do things a

[1:12:36] little bit differently than we

[1:12:40] did in the past.

[1:12:40] It's really important to keep

[1:12:41] the both aisles clear for

[1:12:46] everyone's public safety.

[1:12:46] So if you're going to come up

[1:12:47] for pictures, please remain

[1:12:52] seated until you're called that

[1:12:53] way to ensure that our aisles

[1:12:53] are kept clear.

[1:12:57] But we're going to start with

[1:12:57] our 500th Miramar Martial Arts

[1:12:58] 30th anniversary day so you can

[1:13:03] come up and watch for Heidi

[1:13:03] Signal about who is next after

[1:13:04] that.

[1:13:04] But please remain seated.

[1:13:06] Keep those aisles clear.

[1:15:08] >> Thank you

[1:16:43] .

[1:18:44] And

[1:21:12] all right.

[1:21:18] As the public exits, we will

[1:21:19] now proceed with the approval

[1:21:19] of the consent items.

[1:21:24] Are there any request to pull a

[1:21:25] consent item by the council?

[1:21:26] I see there aren't any.

[1:21:31] So Clerk please proceed with

[1:21:32] public comment on the consent

[1:21:32] item.

[1:21:32] Thank you.

[1:21:35] Council PRESIDENT Please note

[1:21:36] each record of one minute per

[1:21:36] item per person.

[1:21:37] If you would like to speak on

[1:21:37] three or more items you'll have

[1:21:40] a maximum of three minutes.

[1:21:41] The consent agenda includes

[1:21:47] items 1053 56 6061 103 114

[1:21:51] That's 5a1274 and 5192 as 511

[1:21:51] we did receive comments on

[1:21:56] items one at 12 one in favor

[1:21:57] and items as 5042 opposed and

[1:22:02] one in favor of your comment

[1:22:02] form which have been

[1:22:03] distributed to the Council.

[1:22:04] Also let me note for the record

[1:22:04] the potential appointments that

[1:22:09] are on the agenda this morning

[1:22:09] .

[1:22:10] Item 114 is a potential

[1:22:10] appointment of Michelle Eastman

[1:22:11] to the Accessibility Advisory

[1:22:14] Board and item as my vote to is

[1:22:15] the potential reappointment of

[1:22:20] Darlene moment on record

[1:22:21] Stephen Chatzky, Walter Jordan,

[1:22:21] Senator Maria Lozano Diaz and

[1:22:25] Clovis honor to the Commission

[1:22:26] on Police Practices starting

[1:22:27] with Samuel Merrill.

[1:22:31] If you can please come up to

[1:22:32] the front speaking on item one

[1:22:38] at 12 and after that we have

[1:22:39] Maximilian Schmidt, Karen b and

[1:22:39] allegedly Andre as well as Paul

[1:22:45] Krueger.

[1:22:46] If you can all please come up

[1:22:46] to the front row.

[1:22:47] You're speaking at 112.

[1:22:47] You'll have one minute.

[1:22:50] Please proceed.

[1:22:50] Thank you.

[1:22:50] Good morning.

[1:22:51] I'm Samuel Merrill.

[1:22:51] Beyond the harm that

[1:22:57] discrimination causes, we see

[1:22:58] that it also creates a

[1:22:58] financial burden for the city.

[1:22:59] 3.1 million is the practice

[1:23:03] city has to pay for this

[1:23:04] particular settlement if you

[1:23:04] count back the past 12 months

[1:23:05] have seen the street

[1:23:07] discrimination settlements

[1:23:08] the figures close to 4 million.

[1:23:09] This is a clear indication that

[1:23:09] the city needs to address

[1:23:12] the root causes of

[1:23:13] discrimination in

[1:23:13] the workforce.

[1:23:14] There are a number of factors

[1:23:15] to consider and

[1:23:19] the underrepresentation in

[1:23:20] the management leadership

[1:23:20] promotion selection practices

[1:23:25] and organizational culture its

[1:23:26] accountability people policies,

[1:23:30] procedures with others

[1:23:30] accountability The city will

[1:23:36] continue to pay the price.

[1:23:37] Maximilian Schmidt You're

[1:23:42] speaking on item 5051 and 110

[1:23:43] You'll have three minutes.

[1:23:48] >> Please proceed on for

[1:23:54] the update to the parking meter

[1:23:55] zone boundaries on I just

[1:24:00] wanted to say that this sounds

[1:24:01] like a crazy thing to many

[1:24:06] people but a lot of cities are

[1:24:06] starting to have cheaper

[1:24:12] parking and even free parking

[1:24:18] And I know at Double Park on on

[1:24:18] the San Diego City Council did

[1:24:24] a good job on free parking And

[1:24:24] I think that parking should be

[1:24:30] on more places in the city You

[1:24:31] should be free to park And

[1:24:31] that's because sales on

[1:24:37] property and cannabis taxes are

[1:24:37] already too high.

[1:24:42] And as for the massive

[1:24:42] undergrounding utilities

[1:24:43] program going on all in San

[1:24:49] Diego, it's a huge undertaking

[1:24:50] and I think one of the grossest

[1:24:55] misallocation of resources

[1:24:55] that's currently happening in

[1:25:01] San Diego only a select number

[1:25:02] of cities across the world have

[1:25:03] put all their power lines

[1:25:03] underground.

[1:25:07] I saw like Tokyo, Japan on one

[1:25:12] of them and I just come from

[1:25:13] the perspective of someone who

[1:25:18] needs to use the library on

[1:25:19] pretty frequently to access

[1:25:25] the Internet and to charge my

[1:25:25] devices.

[1:25:26] The library is completely

[1:25:31] closed on Sunday and only opens

[1:25:32] at 11:30 A.M. On Monday and

[1:25:33] Tuesday and then hundreds of

[1:25:37] millions $250 million to put

[1:25:37] the utility power lines

[1:25:42] underground on for esthetic

[1:25:42] reasons.

[1:25:43] It seems as if as I said,

[1:25:49] the grossest misallocation of

[1:25:49] resources is happening in San

[1:25:54] Diego with the house prices

[1:25:55] becoming more expensive and

[1:25:56] many people not wanting to move

[1:26:01] on that's basically all that

[1:26:01] happens as the property tax

[1:26:02] goes up on the on the House It

[1:26:06] does It And so that's and

[1:26:07] the cannabis tax is extremely

[1:26:12] unfair and ridiculous And then

[1:26:13] also sales tax So then

[1:26:18] the parking I think should be

[1:26:19] cheaper and I think you

[1:26:19] shouldn't use all these taxes

[1:26:20] to put the power lines

[1:26:25] underground in this giant

[1:26:25] massive undertaking that only

[1:26:26] Tokyo Japan has done something

[1:26:30] like that And then the library

[1:26:31] can't even open all day Sunday

[1:26:36] or it opens at noon on Monday

[1:26:37] and Tuesday because of a lack

[1:26:37] of resources Seems like a

[1:26:42] misallocation and I and I just

[1:26:42] want to say that free parking

[1:26:47] isn't something that is like

[1:26:48] that far fetched.

[1:26:49] I think it's becoming more

[1:26:54] common and I'm Thank you thank

[1:26:55] you for that compelling comment

[1:27:07] Karen we're seeing in item 52

[1:27:14] is we seeing Okay.

[1:27:14] Thank you.

[1:27:14] Good morning.

[1:27:19] I last night I looked at

[1:27:20] the JUNE 18th Environmental

[1:27:25] Committee meeting where

[1:27:26] the contract extension was

[1:27:26] approved for Barrick the trash

[1:27:31] truck and container company.

[1:27:32] There was no presentation given

[1:27:33] and no questions asked and it

[1:27:37] was approved unanimously as

[1:27:38] part of that contract extension

[1:27:43] they approved the vision truck

[1:27:43] Services and the rfid reader to

[1:27:44] be implemented on the trucks

[1:27:50] and that is a hopper camera

[1:27:50] that looks at trash being

[1:27:54] dumped for every customer in

[1:27:55] San Diego And then on JULY 2nd

[1:28:00] with communication from Arnie's

[1:28:01] office they said it was just

[1:28:02] going to be a pilot program and

[1:28:06] that the information was not

[1:28:07] recorded or collected But

[1:28:07] the information from

[1:28:13] the website says at the push of

[1:28:13] a button they can create a

[1:28:18] report in real time with all of

[1:28:19] contamination including comment

[1:28:23] allegedly order You'll have

[1:28:24] three minutes for speaking And

[1:28:28] it was 50 5153 5661 101 50

[1:28:29] (212)210-5119 112 113 As we

[1:28:33] move forward please proceed.

[1:28:34] >> Free parking isn't good for

[1:28:34] business.

[1:28:35] This is a business so you know

[1:28:35] what I mean.

[1:28:38] You got to do that.

[1:28:39] But I think we should ban all

[1:28:39] paid parking.

[1:28:40] That'll never happen.

[1:28:43] I mean $75 parking tickets are

[1:28:43] crazy.

[1:28:44] You guys are making a lot of

[1:28:48] money and then Henry, you care

[1:28:49] about Parks?

[1:28:49] >> That's so funny.

[1:28:50] Only if your family's not going

[1:28:54] to profit.

[1:28:55] >> Right?

[1:28:55] Because you know, you put a

[1:28:56] development there if you are

[1:29:00] and then with this rfid chip

[1:29:01] that's pretty crazy.

[1:29:01] And then also like because

[1:29:06] these parts and the waste cards

[1:29:06] someone just came in and said

[1:29:07] that their tractors are being

[1:29:10] picked up if they're not three

[1:29:10] feet apart.

[1:29:11] So I think you guys need to

[1:29:12] really think about that because

[1:29:12] these people are paying and

[1:29:15] they don't even get their trash

[1:29:15] picked up.

[1:29:16] That's that's not good.

[1:29:20] And then prevailing wage Yeah

[1:29:21] you guys are just gaslighting

[1:29:22] the people Now with this

[1:29:25] amendment to the municipal code

[1:29:26] regarding the Unified School

[1:29:26] District Board of Education I

[1:29:30] think you guys need to be aware

[1:29:31] that Scott Wiener has taken a

[1:29:32] bill where it was going to make

[1:29:36] sure that sexual predators

[1:29:37] including pedophiles were not

[1:29:41] allowed to be a public official

[1:29:41] .

[1:29:42] However, he wanted to take out

[1:29:43] the pedophiles because you

[1:29:47] know, we have to glorify them

[1:29:47] and that would be totally

[1:29:48] discriminatory.

[1:29:49] >> So they're going to be in

[1:29:49] the schools.

[1:29:52] Well, they already are at

[1:29:52] Sunset Elementary, right,

[1:29:53] Vivian?

[1:29:53] Right.

[1:29:56] Naptime children just being

[1:29:57] sexually molested.

[1:29:57] It's so good they do it.

[1:29:58] They just get real comfortable.

[1:30:02] They do.

[1:30:03] They do it right out in

[1:30:03] the open.

[1:30:04] So nothing to worry about there

[1:30:04] though.

[1:30:05] Let's not protect children.

[1:30:07] Just give them some sexual

[1:30:08] books and those people will

[1:30:09] just be a magnet for them.

[1:30:12] These poisons that you're

[1:30:13] putting in the pure water Why

[1:30:18] is use for acclimation?

[1:30:18] >> So I'm wondering are we

[1:30:19] going to put bodies in there to

[1:30:20] dissolve them?

[1:30:23] How is that not going to grow

[1:30:24] the metal in the pipes?

[1:30:24] It does but that would mean

[1:30:28] that it it doesn't harm soft

[1:30:29] tissue or anything like that.

[1:30:29] But it's cool because all

[1:30:32] the aborted babies that people

[1:30:33] are flushed down the toilet

[1:30:34] will you know, be taken care of

[1:30:43] and then let's see the uh hmm

[1:30:43] Oh yes.

[1:30:44] >> No spraying of your

[1:30:45] glyphosate with these

[1:30:48] landscaping initiatives that

[1:30:48] you guys have.

[1:30:49] Roundup is being sprayed and

[1:30:53] it's extremely toxic to

[1:30:54] children to wherever So it's

[1:30:55] being put in parks and things

[1:30:58] like that.

[1:30:59] I think you guys need to think

[1:30:59] about poisoning people but

[1:31:00] we're doing it with the water.

[1:31:03] We can dissolve those bodies to

[1:31:04] the fencing.

[1:31:04] Tent city is like a prison

[1:31:08] because the fencing is going in

[1:31:09] So that's interesting.

[1:31:10] I wonder if they're going to

[1:31:10] maybe turn it around so those

[1:31:14] people don't get stuck in there

[1:31:14] with the fire.

[1:31:15] As far as these settlements, I

[1:31:16] think you need to start putting

[1:31:19] those amounts back up where you

[1:31:20] don't just have to click on to

[1:31:20] the item.

[1:31:24] And as far as housing goes it's

[1:31:25] like nobody can afford to rent.

[1:31:26] And so the fact that you guys

[1:31:29] want to put them in housing I

[1:31:30] don't think that they

[1:31:31] understand what they're getting

[1:31:31] into there And you're but I

[1:31:34] mean you can take their home so

[1:31:34] that's cool.

[1:31:35] >> Paul Kruger you're speaking

[1:31:42] on items a 5050 to 112 and s504

[1:31:43] you will have three minutes.

[1:31:43] Please proceed.

[1:31:44] Thank you.

[1:31:47] Um, I'm not sure of

[1:31:48] the protocol here but please

[1:31:51] give more discussion to item

[1:31:52] 52.

[1:31:55] This is a $106 million For

[1:31:56] what?

[1:31:56] According to the report is just

[1:32:00] trash bin repair errors.

[1:32:01] It doesn't even say

[1:32:05] replacements.

[1:32:05] The second paragraph of pure

[1:32:10] government talks about

[1:32:14] the contract going from 8

[1:32:14] million to 38 million and then

[1:32:18] being adjusted in 2022 to an

[1:32:19] unspecified amount And then we

[1:32:22] have JULY 14th where it went to

[1:32:23] $103 million.

[1:32:30] Now there's another $3 million

[1:32:30] to $106 million.

[1:32:31] We have to have an explanation.

[1:32:35] You MAY know more about this

[1:32:36] than members of the public but

[1:32:39] this is an expenditure related

[1:32:44] to the trash fee that

[1:32:45] the public wants to understand

[1:32:49] How could we be spending $106

[1:32:53] million Again the item backups

[1:32:58] as necessary for repairs and

[1:32:59] maintenance of containers.

[1:32:59] Nowhere does it say that it

[1:33:02] involves the replacement of

[1:33:07] the containers.

[1:33:08] Thank you for doing what you

[1:33:12] can to assure more public

[1:33:13] discussion on this very

[1:33:17] important item.

[1:33:21] Just very briefly on item 112

[1:33:22] the settlement this is another

[1:33:26] example of the millions of

[1:33:26] dollars that we are paying

[1:33:27] every week.

[1:33:31] It seems like certainly every

[1:33:31] month for questionable

[1:33:32] settlements.

[1:33:36] I'm not saying in any way that

[1:33:37] this case shouldn't have been

[1:33:38] settled but it looks like it

[1:33:40] went on for three years with

[1:33:40] two separate lawsuits.

[1:33:45] There must be a better way to

[1:33:49] both settle on on better terms

[1:33:49] earlier perhaps and more

[1:33:54] importantly to avoid these

[1:33:55] lawsuits.

[1:33:55] I'll use my last moment to

[1:34:00] please urge you to discuss item

[1:34:03] s five over four.

[1:34:04] My colleague Jeff Tudor wrote a

[1:34:08] very important note to you

[1:34:12] about concerns regarding

[1:34:13] the construction defect change

[1:34:16] on sb 1903.

[1:34:21] Please do not approve today's

[1:34:22] item if you include sb 1903

[1:34:26] please read about Please read

[1:34:27] Jeff's note to you about

[1:34:31] suggested changes to

[1:34:35] the wording of sb 1903 before

[1:34:36] you endorse it.

[1:34:40] Do not endorse as a package

[1:34:40] please.

[1:34:41] Thank you very much for your

[1:34:43] time.

[1:34:43] >> Thank you.

[1:34:48] Blair Beekman You're speaking

[1:34:51] on items as final two as 503

[1:34:52] and 110.

[1:34:57] Hi Beekman I'm going to

[1:34:57] substitute item 54 110 with

[1:35:01] the administrative update

[1:35:02] Parking meter zoning boundary

[1:35:02] descriptions for Uptown and

[1:35:06] Midtown Mid-City communities um

[1:35:07] with our parking things that

[1:35:11] we're working on at this time,

[1:35:12] is it possible to be

[1:35:13] considering again the ideas of

[1:35:13] parking commissions?

[1:35:16] I think it was a good way to

[1:35:17] create community and democracy

[1:35:21] and there was some really

[1:35:21] undemocratic ideas in taking

[1:35:22] those concepts away.

[1:35:26] The past year in order to

[1:35:26] consolidate your new parking

[1:35:27] ideas.

[1:35:31] Now that we're returning to all

[1:35:31] forms, can we return to

[1:35:32] the parking commission process

[1:35:35] and what that offered community

[1:35:36] or at least for it to have a

[1:35:37] place in our future We can have

[1:35:40] some sort of, you know, working

[1:35:41] within Chamber of commerce

[1:35:42] groups you know, local business

[1:35:45] associations or anything you

[1:35:46] know, to get that sort of

[1:35:47] process uh, a democratic

[1:35:50] process Again good luck in

[1:35:51] the efforts I wanted to speak

[1:35:55] to item as 503 which is

[1:35:59] the buyer park parking a

[1:36:00] funding for issues.

[1:36:00] Our Park Department has an

[1:36:04] awesome job to working on to a

[1:36:05] degree on tech and

[1:36:09] accountability and that our

[1:36:10] data is going to be safe,

[1:36:11] secure and that we're doing

[1:36:15] best practices.

[1:36:15] Um they made pretty strong

[1:36:16] demands of federal agencies

[1:36:19] that we're working on good

[1:36:19] terms and I hope we can

[1:36:20] continue those sort of efforts

[1:36:23] for ourselves.

[1:36:24] I hope the park by our park

[1:36:28] funding ideas can connect to

[1:36:29] the housing development that's

[1:36:33] planned for the same area Will

[1:36:34] they be working in conjunction?

[1:36:34] Should they be working in

[1:36:37] conjunction there should be

[1:36:38] really obviously important

[1:36:39] concepts of environmental

[1:36:47] concerns and efforts and let's

[1:36:47] not forget the importance of

[1:36:48] environmental concerns with our

[1:36:52] land issues.

[1:36:52] We have to note the history of

[1:36:56] our land issues as well.

[1:36:57] Uh, good luck how we do all of

[1:36:58] that with with the prior park

[1:37:01] and the animal health ideas to

[1:37:02] conclude with the reappointment

[1:37:06] to the Commission on Police

[1:37:06] practices.

[1:37:07] I really wanted to say

[1:37:10] yesterday I hope that

[1:37:11] the Police Commission on Police

[1:37:15] Practices will be reviewing can

[1:37:16] have an open public process on

[1:37:17] the future of hope for use in

[1:37:20] real time in San Diego.

[1:37:20] That has to be a public

[1:37:21] conversation in our future.

[1:37:24] Good luck how it can be

[1:37:25] accessible.

[1:37:26] Good luck in your efforts to

[1:37:29] try to make that accessible.

[1:37:30] I hope you can do that as

[1:37:30] councilperson.

[1:37:31] And the other comment that I

[1:37:34] think the aclu person who

[1:37:39] applied for a job on

[1:37:39] the commission was not elected

[1:37:44] and I thought that I thought

[1:37:44] that a bit disconcerting.

[1:37:49] I hope we do not fear having

[1:37:50] open conversations in

[1:37:53] the public eye and here in

[1:37:54] the following months you know

[1:37:54] what I'm trying to do a best

[1:37:55] practices.

[1:37:55] >> Thank you.

[1:37:56] Thank you.

[1:37:59] I started the five minutes I'm

[1:38:00] we're going to those

[1:38:01] participating remotely.

[1:38:01] We currently have three people

[1:38:03] in the queue starting with

[1:38:04] Zachary.

[1:38:04] If you can please unmute and

[1:38:05] let me know which item or items

[1:38:09] you wish to speak to.

[1:38:13] Zachary DeFazio Farrow I can't

[1:38:14] unmute for you.

[1:38:14] There you go.

[1:38:14] Hello.

[1:38:17] It's 504.

[1:38:17] Please proceed.

[1:38:21] You have one minute.

[1:38:21] Okay.

[1:38:21] Good morning.

[1:38:22] Council PRESIDENT Members of

[1:38:27] the Council My name is DR.

[1:38:28] Fazio and the Treasurer of

[1:38:28] the Democrats of Seminole

[1:38:30] County.

[1:38:31] I'm speaking in support of item

[1:38:32] as far as 504 the resolution

[1:38:35] backing Assembly bills 19 zero

[1:38:39] 314 zero six and 70 in 1834 San

[1:38:39] Diego is the fifth most

[1:38:40] expensive metro area in

[1:38:44] the country to buy a home and

[1:38:45] only about 70% of local

[1:38:46] households can afford a medium

[1:38:49] priced home here.

[1:38:50] >> This package addresses real

[1:38:50] barriers to homeownership

[1:38:54] reducing costs of construction

[1:38:54] defect litigation, lowering

[1:38:55] financing risk for builders and

[1:38:58] easing permitting for missing

[1:38:58] middle housing duplexes,

[1:38:59] townhomes and condos.

[1:39:03] I want to thank Council

[1:39:03] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee for

[1:39:04] introducing this resolution and

[1:39:05] steering committee.

[1:39:08] >> We urge the Council to adopt

[1:39:08] s504 as presented on today's

[1:39:13] consent agenda I sent

[1:39:13] Sacramento a clear message that

[1:39:14] San Diego supports expanding

[1:39:18] homeownership.

[1:39:18] >> Thank you.

[1:39:19] Thank you.

[1:39:19] Next is Lori Saldana.

[1:39:23] If you can please unmute Morris

[1:39:28] Although I knew I can move for

[1:39:28] you but if you can unmute and

[1:39:29] let me know which item or items

[1:39:32] you wish to speak to.

[1:39:33] My apologies please On mute.

[1:39:33] Hello.

[1:39:37] Yes, hi.

[1:39:37] Yes Hi there.

[1:39:43] Yes I'd like to see an item 112

[1:39:43] 113 and 114.

[1:39:44] >> Please proceed.

[1:39:49] You'll have three minutes.

[1:39:49] Thank you.

[1:39:50] So item 112 it was already

[1:39:53] mentioned that these types of

[1:39:54] discrimination cases they are

[1:39:58] costly on a financial level but

[1:40:04] also costly capabilities fairly

[1:40:08] poor but represent the case

[1:40:08] employment opportunities I

[1:40:12] throughout San Diego there are

[1:40:13] many not only within the city

[1:40:17] but there are many contracts

[1:40:18] given to companies that when

[1:40:22] you review their employment

[1:40:23] reports they clearly are not

[1:40:28] meeting the level of diversity

[1:40:28] that the city has envisioned

[1:40:32] when they step forward certain

[1:40:32] goals and certain programs

[1:40:36] Sometimes it's costly as in

[1:40:37] this case on a legal settlement

[1:40:38] but other times it is costly

[1:40:41] because frankly people don't

[1:40:42] see themselves represented.

[1:40:46] Job sites where contractors are

[1:40:47] doing work that's supposed to

[1:40:47] be beneficial to everyone In

[1:40:51] San Diego And I went there 13

[1:40:52] the settlement about an

[1:40:55] accident on a sidewalk in these

[1:40:55] cases used to be relatively

[1:40:56] rare there I got to sit there

[1:41:00] increasing I've mentioned in

[1:41:00] the past the incident with a

[1:41:01] member of my own family who

[1:41:04] tripped over City Hall and

[1:41:05] the injuries resulted in her

[1:41:09] death a few months later It's

[1:41:10] it is not only again costly in

[1:41:10] terms of the settlements that

[1:41:15] are being paid but it's costly

[1:41:15] to the people that are

[1:41:16] supportive of those who are

[1:41:19] injured And these trips involve

[1:41:19] and related to this area,

[1:41:23] Pacific Beach.

[1:41:24] I will be speaking soon

[1:41:25] regarding what is happening in

[1:41:28] our coastal communities.

[1:41:29] I was born and raised in San

[1:41:29] Diego.

[1:41:30] I have seen the changes in our

[1:41:33] neighborhoods.

[1:41:34] I I've lived in Pacific Beach

[1:41:35] and other coastal communities

[1:41:38] and I believe these these

[1:41:38] incidents tripping and falling

[1:41:39] and other accidents are going

[1:41:43] to increase very quickly And

[1:41:43] I'll explain why during

[1:41:47] the public comment and then

[1:41:48] finally the reappointment to

[1:41:48] the Commission on Police

[1:41:52] Practices as others have

[1:41:52] mentioned, this commission was

[1:41:57] created following just to give

[1:41:58] us a brief history of 15 years

[1:42:01] ago there was an activity right

[1:42:02] outside this building Occupy

[1:42:06] San Diego and people were

[1:42:07] camping overnight and in

[1:42:07] the early morning hours police

[1:42:11] raided the encampment and ended

[1:42:16] up putting people into

[1:42:16] basically locking them down in

[1:42:20] vehicles And it was

[1:42:20] dehumanizing.

[1:42:25] It was frightening And some of

[1:42:26] the people that experienced

[1:42:30] this worked very hard for many

[1:42:30] years to get this commission

[1:42:31] established.

[1:42:34] The fact that it has taken this

[1:42:35] it continues to take months and

[1:42:39] years to establish and fully

[1:42:40] operate.

[1:42:40] This commission does not speak

[1:42:45] well of police practices in San

[1:42:45] Diego and I encourage you to

[1:42:46] manage this as quickly as you

[1:42:46] can.

[1:42:50] Thank you.

[1:42:51] Next is 8700.

[1:42:52] If you can please unmute and

[1:42:55] let me know which item or items

[1:42:55] you wish to speak to.

[1:43:03] Yes I have eight items 501 50

[1:43:07] (510)010-1102 110 504 and 511

[1:43:08] please.

[1:43:08] Thank you.

[1:43:11] You'll have three minutes.

[1:43:12] I'll also note that the five

[1:43:12] minute timer did conclude there

[1:43:13] are three people in the queue

[1:43:16] No additional speakers will be

[1:43:16] taken.

[1:43:17] >> Please proceed Missing out

[1:43:21] of Thank you five one Yes to

[1:43:25] the electronic filing system

[1:43:25] for the office of the City

[1:43:29] Clerk This will help keep

[1:43:30] the city clerks team and their

[1:43:34] stellar work stellar work

[1:43:35] moving forward for all

[1:43:39] the people of San Diego All 55

[1:43:43] I am on the fence three Yes or

[1:43:47] no On its first amend to

[1:43:47] the contract with Evernorth

[1:43:51] Care Solutions 185 and then

[1:43:54] admin employees 42 white male 1

[1:43:55] or 3 white female

[1:43:59] underrepresented Asian Asian in

[1:44:00] management and financial

[1:44:04] African-American and Asian in

[1:44:05] sales plus also due to some of

[1:44:09] the some parts of the staff

[1:44:10] report is too long for me to

[1:44:11] say them but I'm a yes or no on

[1:44:11] that.

[1:44:15] Thank you very much.

[1:44:18] One 100 yes to the contract for

[1:44:19] as needed Independent legal

[1:44:23] counsel for the Office of

[1:44:23] the City Auditor and the Audit

[1:44:24] Committee.

[1:44:28] That's a big yes 101 combined

[1:44:33] with 102 Yes And both for

[1:44:34] chemicals to the North City

[1:44:38] Pure water facility.

[1:44:39] Have we finally got a handle on

[1:44:43] pricing 110 Yes.

[1:44:47] Two utilities undergrounding

[1:44:52] program a question what percent

[1:44:52] of collaboration is happening

[1:44:56] with sdg and the these

[1:44:57] processes?

[1:44:57] And another question what

[1:45:01] percentage is being taking

[1:45:02] place for outreach with

[1:45:07] the communities And if dg And

[1:45:07] each of these processes I'm

[1:45:11] looking for improvement in both

[1:45:12] areas Thank you Bible for I am

[1:45:16] on the fence yes and no On

[1:45:17] supporting the four assembly

[1:45:21] bills aimed at expanding home

[1:45:21] ownership as a long term

[1:45:25] apartment renter I need to get

[1:45:26] right to the bones.

[1:45:30] These bills and to evaluate

[1:45:35] their clear intentions.

[1:45:36] I'm all for them.

[1:45:36] Thank you.

[1:45:39] And lastly by 11 yes to 15

[1:45:40] apartments I'm still not clear

[1:45:44] on the history of

[1:45:44] the amendments and so forth yet

[1:45:48] I have fond memories of working

[1:45:53] on this project to fruition in

[1:45:54] 2009 with cdc The increase in

[1:45:58] their provision and love to

[1:45:58] all.

[1:45:59] >> Thank you.

[1:46:00] Judy Strang If you can please

[1:46:03] unmute Judy Sorry I can't I'm

[1:46:07] here for you.

[1:46:08] >> I will need to move on.

[1:46:08] There you go.

[1:46:12] Sorry I'm at my work site and

[1:46:12] that's always a little

[1:46:13] challenging.

[1:46:16] I'd like to speak to items 55

[1:46:23] 100 and 109I have a question

[1:46:24] about 109 and that has to do

[1:46:25] with the installation of

[1:46:28] fencing Because of

[1:46:29] the conversation yesterday I

[1:46:30] decided to take a deep dive and

[1:46:33] those it those items today that

[1:46:34] had to do with contracts and if

[1:46:38] I understand in this correctly

[1:46:38] it looks to me like

[1:46:42] the contract for fencing is

[1:46:47] increasing from $3 million to

[1:46:47] 8,000,900.

[1:46:48] I tried as I examined

[1:46:52] the finances behind this to

[1:46:52] understand what would have

[1:46:53] happened to create that sort of

[1:46:57] increase.

[1:46:58] I must admit maybe I didn't

[1:46:58] read carefully and I couldn't

[1:47:01] find the answers I, I was

[1:47:02] looking for it but my golly

[1:47:07] that $6 million increase I

[1:47:11] having discussing what we would

[1:47:12] like to spend our money on not

[1:47:13] the least of which are

[1:47:15] restrooms that was startling

[1:47:20] Then I'd like to speak next to

[1:47:21] item 100.

[1:47:21] Yes.

[1:47:21] Oh my gosh.

[1:47:22] Yes.

[1:47:25] Let's get our idea Any

[1:47:26] individual or individualized

[1:47:30] council that they would need

[1:47:31] that would make their services

[1:47:31] easier for them to do.

[1:47:35] It is a job that the public

[1:47:36] greatly appreciate and values

[1:47:36] their opinion and anything that

[1:47:40] makes their job easier.

[1:47:41] And finally I especially wanted

[1:47:45] to address item 55 about

[1:47:46] something I know quite a bit

[1:47:46] about employee assisted

[1:47:50] progress.

[1:47:51] I have a high regard for those

[1:47:54] enterprises those businesses

[1:47:55] which the city certainly is

[1:47:55] that realize the importance of

[1:47:59] a good employee assistance

[1:48:04] program And as your staff

[1:48:04] report mentions this very

[1:48:09] important behavioral health

[1:48:10] resource that the erp,

[1:48:13] the employment Assistance

[1:48:14] program provides to your

[1:48:18] employees is essential for

[1:48:19] their personal and workplace

[1:48:19] challenges.

[1:48:24] It often includes mental health

[1:48:24] challenges.

[1:48:25] This is not your staff report.

[1:48:25] This is me having worked on

[1:48:28] these programs The type of

[1:48:29] mental health problems that

[1:48:33] people in your business might

[1:48:34] have and their alcohol,

[1:48:37] tobacco, marijuana drug

[1:48:38] problems that they have really

[1:48:38] create an issue to

[1:48:39] the workplace.

[1:48:42] When I first entered this field

[1:48:43] 40 years ago, one of the first

[1:48:46] things I was involved with is

[1:48:47] bringing erp programs to

[1:48:48] businesses And one of

[1:48:52] the things that we learned from

[1:48:53] those who had gone before is

[1:48:53] the last thing that people who

[1:48:57] have drug problems let loose of

[1:48:58] is their job because of course

[1:49:02] it's important for them to have

[1:49:02] a source of funding for their

[1:49:03] alcohol and drug use.

[1:49:06] So this is the place if we're

[1:49:07] going to help people at their

[1:49:08] workplace, if we can do it then

[1:49:11] it is money well spent.

[1:49:12] >> Thank you.

[1:49:12] Thank you, Tony.

[1:49:13] Your final speaker if you can

[1:49:17] please unmute and let me know

[1:49:18] which item or items you wish to

[1:49:21] speak to.

[1:49:21] Yes.

[1:49:22] Can you hear me?

[1:49:22] Yes.

[1:49:26] I would like to speak to item

[1:49:26] 56.

[1:49:30] I would like to speak to item

[1:49:31] 100.

[1:49:35] I would like to speak to item

[1:49:39] control Sorry item 112 I

[1:49:45] believe it is So those two yet

[1:49:48] Those three okay Sorry.

[1:49:49] >> Three minutes Please

[1:49:49] proceed.

[1:49:52] Thank you.

[1:49:53] First I'll start by saying I'm

[1:49:57] in big support of item GOD this

[1:50:03] is item 100 and in favor of

[1:50:07] the eBay getting as much

[1:50:07] support as possible with

[1:50:08] whatever council they MAY need

[1:50:24] and then moving on to item item

[1:50:28] 112 a $3.1 million settlement

[1:50:33] with the city of San Diego due

[1:50:38] to a discrimination case with

[1:50:43] the San Diego Police Department

[1:50:43] .

[1:50:48] I I've spoken about this issue

[1:50:48] so many times.

[1:50:49] I've come to city council about

[1:50:52] this issue so many times but I

[1:50:53] haven't seen the tone of

[1:50:54] the five people that voted for

[1:50:57] Flock of the five people that

[1:50:58] continually vote in favor of

[1:51:02] giving sd pd all the toys and

[1:51:02] all of the budget increases

[1:51:03] that they ask for.

[1:51:07] I never see the tone of any of

[1:51:08] your change.

[1:51:08] I never see you asking them

[1:51:12] the critical questions.

[1:51:12] I never see any of these

[1:51:13] lawsuits change your tone in

[1:51:17] terms of greater accountability

[1:51:18] that you should be asking from

[1:51:22] them and yesterday in

[1:51:23] the appointment of the people

[1:51:23] to the Commission on Police

[1:51:27] Practices, I'm glad that all

[1:51:27] those people were appointed But

[1:51:28] some of the questions that you

[1:51:32] asked were really, really

[1:51:33] reflective of some of your

[1:51:37] positions and your lack your

[1:51:42] own personal lack of

[1:51:42] objectivity in assessing police

[1:51:43] accountability.

[1:51:45] It seems like you're more

[1:51:57] concerned with people having a

[1:51:58] a view that's favorable that sd

[1:52:02] pd over people holding them

[1:52:03] accountable over the only

[1:52:03] regulatory body that we have

[1:52:06] that's responsible for holding

[1:52:07] them directly accountable.

[1:52:08] It seems like y'all are more

[1:52:12] interested in having allies on

[1:52:16] cp that won't recommend changes

[1:52:17] that c pd won't even make

[1:52:21] because the cp is totally

[1:52:22] disempowered from being able to

[1:52:22] make these changes.

[1:52:25] So it's all just a dog and pony

[1:52:26] show anyway.

[1:52:26] It's all just a charade anyway

[1:52:30] and it's super concerning that

[1:52:31] because this is coming out of

[1:52:35] the public liability d fund

[1:52:36] y'all don't seem to care.

[1:52:40] Your d doesn't change any of

[1:52:41] your tones and I don't know

[1:52:42] what it will take for you to

[1:52:45] realize that this is our money

[1:52:46] and we are in a budget crisis

[1:52:50] and we can't afford grocery yet

[1:52:51] We're continually paying these

[1:52:51] massive settlements for steep

[1:52:55] needs.

[1:52:55] I'm sorry your time has

[1:52:56] concluded.

[1:52:58] If you raised your hand

[1:52:59] the five minute timer had

[1:52:59] already concluded and that does

[1:53:00] conclude public comment on

[1:53:03] the consent agenda.

[1:53:03] >> Thank you, Council

[1:53:04] PRESIDENT.

[1:53:04] All right.

[1:53:05] Thank you, City Clerk.

[1:53:06] With that I'll turn to my

[1:53:08] colleagues for comments,

[1:53:09] questions and entertain a

[1:53:09] motion and we'll start with

[1:53:13] Councilmember Moreno.

[1:53:13] >> Thank you.

[1:53:14] I have comments on item 100 a

[1:53:18] request for the approval of a

[1:53:19] contract between the city of

[1:53:23] San Diego and Rene Public Law

[1:53:24] Group to provide as needed

[1:53:28] independent legal counsel for

[1:53:29] the Office of the City Auditor

[1:53:33] and the Audit Committee measure

[1:53:37] a asked the citizens of San

[1:53:38] Diego for a charter amendment

[1:53:42] authorizing the City auditor

[1:53:43] and the audit committee to use

[1:53:43] outside legal counsel instead

[1:53:47] of our elected city attorney.

[1:53:52] I signed the ballot argument in

[1:53:57] favor of the measure and I was

[1:54:00] very happy to see that 67.24%

[1:54:01] of voters agreed with this

[1:54:01] measure.

[1:54:06] So I want to start off by

[1:54:06] thanking the audit Committee ad

[1:54:07] hoc subcommittee for

[1:54:11] the implement ation of Measure

[1:54:12] a And I also want to take this

[1:54:15] opportunity to thank City

[1:54:16] attorney Heather Ferber for not

[1:54:20] standing in between the will of

[1:54:20] the voters.

[1:54:21] This has been a very long time

[1:54:25] coming and I'm glad to see that

[1:54:26] we are reaching this point.

[1:54:26] This represents another

[1:54:30] important tool for the city

[1:54:30] auditor to ensure that taxpayer

[1:54:34] funds are being used

[1:54:35] responsibly and also

[1:54:35] transparently.

[1:54:39] I also do want to recognize and

[1:54:40] extend my gratitude to public

[1:54:41] committee members.

[1:54:45] Halpern And Maffia for their

[1:54:45] outstanding work in helping

[1:54:46] guide this effort.

[1:54:49] Thanks to that collaborative

[1:54:50] effort, we now have a contract

[1:54:51] that represent that reflects

[1:54:55] the commitment made to

[1:54:55] the voters the economic

[1:54:56] statement presented to voters

[1:55:00] when they considered Measure a

[1:55:00] is consistent with the contract

[1:55:04] amount before us today and this

[1:55:04] independent legal Council is

[1:55:05] important because the city

[1:55:09] attorney represents

[1:55:10] the departments that the city

[1:55:13] auditor is auditing So

[1:55:14] ultimately this helps

[1:55:15] the mission of the city auditor

[1:55:15] to advance open and accountable

[1:55:19] government through independent

[1:55:19] objective and accurate audits

[1:55:24] and investigations that seek to

[1:55:24] improve the efficiency,

[1:55:25] effectiveness and equity of

[1:55:29] city government.

[1:55:32] I also have comments on item as

[1:55:33] 5o3I want to take this

[1:55:33] opportunity to thank Council

[1:55:37] member Campbell for bringing

[1:55:38] this item forward and for

[1:55:38] keeping the Buyer park

[1:55:41] development project in mind

[1:55:42] while serving on the San Diego

[1:55:47] River River Conservancy Board.

[1:55:48] If awarded this grant funding

[1:55:51] would fully fund Phase two

[1:55:51] Buyer Park a long anticipated

[1:55:52] project that was promised to

[1:55:56] the San Isidro community by

[1:55:57] the city of San Diego decades

[1:56:00] ago fully funding Phase two is

[1:56:01] a critical step towards turning

[1:56:05] that longstanding promise into

[1:56:05] a tangible reality for our

[1:56:06] community.

[1:56:09] This represents and this

[1:56:10] project represents more than

[1:56:11] just park improvements.

[1:56:14] It represents long overdue

[1:56:15] investment in San Ysidro

[1:56:19] families, youth and residents

[1:56:20] who deserve access to quality

[1:56:20] public space.

[1:56:21] So I'm extremely proud to

[1:56:24] support this item and look

[1:56:25] forward to seeing my support

[1:56:28] continue moving forward and

[1:56:29] with that Council PRESIDENT I'm

[1:56:30] happy to make a motion to

[1:56:30] accept the consent agenda

[1:56:35] before us today.

[1:56:35] All right.

[1:56:36] Thank you.

[1:56:36] Council members we have motion

[1:56:37] by Councilmember Moreno to move

[1:56:40] the staff recommendation on

[1:56:40] the consent items and we'll go

[1:56:43] next to council member on Open

[1:56:44] .

[1:56:44] Thank you very much And I'm

[1:56:47] going to have questions on item

[1:56:48] 52 for both environmental

[1:56:49] services and purchasing

[1:56:49] contracting.

[1:56:51] So hopefully there are folks

[1:56:56] here who can answer it.

[1:56:57] I do have a question for

[1:57:00] the city attorney as well as an

[1:57:01] item as 509 which is

[1:57:02] the settlement by voting for

[1:57:05] the settlement that doesn't

[1:57:06] lock us into voting for a

[1:57:07] certain amount of the water

[1:57:10] rate going forward.

[1:57:11] It will like we do have to do a

[1:57:12] singular water rate because of

[1:57:15] the court decision but we don't

[1:57:16] have to set an amount in this

[1:57:16] settlement.

[1:57:20] Correct That as 509 was pulled

[1:57:20] from the consent agenda.

[1:57:21] So I'm happy to discuss with

[1:57:24] you.

[1:57:24] Okay.

[1:57:25] All right.

[1:57:25] Thank you.

[1:57:25] Sorry about that.

[1:57:28] Okay then I'm question items

[1:57:29] five vote two please.

[1:57:32] I'm sorry Item 52 are the last

[1:57:43] day I was there I was there.

[1:57:43] >> Good morning.

[1:57:44] Customer Jeremy Bauer

[1:57:44] Governmental Services.

[1:57:46] Thank you.

[1:57:47] So this is a $3 million

[1:57:48] extension to the contract to

[1:57:52] allow procurement of rfid

[1:57:52] reader hardware and software

[1:57:56] which enables the city to

[1:57:57] provide service protection to

[1:57:57] its customers.

[1:58:02] I thought that we I I'm wholly

[1:58:02] against the city getting

[1:58:03] neutrality and I voted no on

[1:58:06] this every single time but I've

[1:58:06] lost on this.

[1:58:07] So now the new trash cans are

[1:58:07] here.

[1:58:11] I thought the whole reason that

[1:58:12] we were told we had to do

[1:58:13] the new trash cans was because

[1:58:17] they'd have rfid chips in them

[1:58:17] and then we could read them.

[1:58:18] So why is it that now we need

[1:58:21] an additional $3 million to

[1:58:21] read the rfid trips?

[1:58:22] Wasn't that why was that part

[1:58:25] of the original negotiation?

[1:58:26] >> Great question.

[1:58:26] So two and for the opportunity

[1:58:30] to clarify the primary reason

[1:58:31] for the new containers is

[1:58:32] customer verification to

[1:58:32] validate that we're only

[1:58:36] providing service to customers

[1:58:36] that are city customers and

[1:58:37] that we're providing service

[1:58:41] level that they're paying for.

[1:58:42] This is because the fee is

[1:58:43] based it's a function of

[1:58:43] the size of the trash container

[1:58:46] and how many total containers

[1:58:47] they have.

[1:58:47] And recognizing that most of

[1:58:48] the containers that were

[1:58:51] deployed in the past were well

[1:58:51] past their useful life,

[1:58:52] the city weighed doing a manual

[1:58:56] audit of what was out in

[1:58:57] the field versus replacing and

[1:58:57] we did determine that replacing

[1:59:01] them was the most effective and

[1:59:02] efficient way to validate

[1:59:02] service levels.

[1:59:06] With that said to your question

[1:59:07] ,we did communicate to

[1:59:08] the public that all of the new

[1:59:08] containers come with rfid

[1:59:12] reader rfid is embedded in them

[1:59:13] and that our plan would be to

[1:59:13] test technology for

[1:59:14] the hardware that would be

[1:59:17] attached to the trucks.

[1:59:18] And then going forward would

[1:59:19] allow us to collect service

[1:59:22] level information to allow for

[1:59:23] continuous improvement over

[1:59:23] time.

[1:59:24] Also allow us if we detect a

[1:59:28] container outside of where it's

[1:59:29] supposed to be we could get it

[1:59:32] back to where it belongs.

[1:59:33] >> And part of why we wanted to

[1:59:34] do a pilot first was before

[1:59:38] spending the money to buy

[1:59:39] the hardware to attach

[1:59:39] the trucks.

[1:59:41] It was important to us to test

[1:59:42] the technology first and sure

[1:59:43] it's working before making that

[1:59:43] that significant investment in

[1:59:48] hardware for the trucks.

[1:59:49] >> Did we competitively bid

[1:59:49] the hardware for the trucks?

[1:59:51] We did one or the other pilot

[1:59:52] with another firm right where

[1:59:57] the Detectability rate was not

[1:59:58] high enough for our business

[1:59:58] needs and also the amount of

[2:00:04] staff time to load the data and

[2:00:04] the versatility of

[2:00:08] the technology As a result of

[2:00:09] doing the pilot we determined

[2:00:09] that it wasn't going to meet

[2:00:10] our needs, that hardware was

[2:00:13] able to be returned without

[2:00:14] without costs.

[2:00:15] That was part of what was

[2:00:15] desirable about that initial

[2:00:19] pilot With this new pilot

[2:00:19] the pilot itself should cost

[2:00:20] about $30,000 and if the pilot

[2:00:25] is successful only if and only

[2:00:26] at that point would we spend

[2:00:30] the 3 million to buy the at

[2:00:30] about 2 million actually to buy

[2:00:31] the hardware And then

[2:00:32] the latter million is for

[2:00:32] the software needs for

[2:00:36] the remainder of the at

[2:00:37] the period the fifth period

[2:00:40] through fiscal year 29.

[2:00:41] So then why did we pick these

[2:00:42] two companies as a part of a

[2:00:46] competitive bid like we usually

[2:00:46] do?

[2:00:47] >> How how did this work?

[2:00:50] We have an existing contract

[2:00:51] with Varig for the container

[2:00:52] pavilion repair and replacement

[2:00:56] and leveraging that We already

[2:00:57] had that contract recognizing

[2:00:57] that that's the same firm that

[2:01:02] makes the containers with

[2:01:02] the rfid and them We anticipate

[2:01:07] that the hardware that the firm

[2:01:08] makes should be successful in

[2:01:09] detecting containers.

[2:01:12] >> We didn't at first because

[2:01:13] you said you met with another

[2:01:13] company previously.

[2:01:14] >> That's right.

[2:01:14] We had a we also had an

[2:01:18] existing contract with Radware

[2:01:18] And so being able to leverage

[2:01:19] that existing contract through

[2:01:23] this when the very contract was

[2:01:24] presented last last JULY for

[2:01:28] the container rollout we

[2:01:29] presented that this contract

[2:01:30] would be for the purposes of

[2:01:30] rolling out the new containers

[2:01:34] and that we would continue to

[2:01:35] look into what's what's next.

[2:01:36] And as part of that exercise we

[2:01:41] did determine that the existing

[2:01:42] contract with Varig allowed for

[2:01:42] that.

[2:01:42] The scope of that contract

[2:01:47] allowed for provision of rfid

[2:01:47] hardware And so we determined

[2:01:48] that that would be an efficient

[2:01:53] way of lifting that existing

[2:01:53] contract with the city but it

[2:01:54] would require adding capacity

[2:01:58] to the contract to fund for

[2:01:59] the hardware purchase.

[2:01:59] >> Got it.

[2:02:00] So we have not done a

[2:02:01] competitive bid to see what

[2:02:06] would be the cheapest.

[2:02:07] We're just kind of picking

[2:02:07] contracts before I answer

[2:02:08] customer x I want to confirm

[2:02:15] with you know it's part of

[2:02:15] the equipment procurement

[2:02:16] agreement which was

[2:02:20] competitively bid That includes

[2:02:21] not only carts but the rfid

[2:02:22] technology as well and cost

[2:02:22] number this is Chase.

[2:02:23] >> We have an intern program

[2:02:25] manager with our program Now

[2:02:26] I'm reading all the staff

[2:02:30] reports The original contract

[2:02:31] was in 2016 and it was for

[2:02:31] trash containers.

[2:02:32] It wasn't competitively bid for

[2:02:36] this new rfid software.

[2:02:37] We just checked it on

[2:02:38] the original cooperate

[2:02:38] procurement agreement from

[2:02:42] the Omni partnership included

[2:02:43] not only carts but the rfid

[2:02:44] technology as well which was

[2:02:49] completely bid but it's used

[2:02:50] through multiple municipalities

[2:02:50] across the country.

[2:02:51] Where does it say that in a

[2:02:55] contract on the original a

[2:02:56] contract there is services that

[2:03:01] specify that rfid technology as

[2:03:01] part of this corporate

[2:03:02] procuring agreement for 2016?

[2:03:02] Correct?

[2:03:03] Okay.

[2:03:04] >> That's not the back of

[2:03:10] materials.

[2:03:11] >> The only thing we purchased

[2:03:12] anywhere I think with you about

[2:03:17] it we rejected a contract

[2:03:17] yesterday because it wasn't

[2:03:18] competitively bid and I don't

[2:03:19] see anywhere this was in

[2:03:23] Claudio's view came of I see in

[2:03:23] your report that we're

[2:03:24] accepting an extension to this

[2:03:28] contract because there's three

[2:03:29] what three criteria We have to

[2:03:34] be an emergency or

[2:03:34] extraordinary circumstances

[2:03:35] exist.

[2:03:35] So what are the emergency or

[2:03:36] extraordinary circumstances

[2:03:41] that exist that allow us to not

[2:03:41] do a bigger process and just

[2:03:42] take $3 million out of

[2:03:42] the contract?

[2:03:46] Okay.

[2:03:47] >> So just to backtrack thank

[2:03:48] you for the question.

[2:03:48] Councilmember Michael for

[2:03:52] Claudio Burkett, Director of

[2:03:53] Purchasing Contracting.

[2:03:53] Just to backtrack, cooperative

[2:03:54] procurement is allowable.

[2:03:58] What we did it has to meet our

[2:03:59] criteria that it was solicited.

[2:04:00] There were multiple bids and

[2:04:04] there was an award process that

[2:04:05] is in line with the city's own

[2:04:05] procurement process.

[2:04:10] So yes, this contract was

[2:04:11] awarded previously There is a

[2:04:12] provision that allows us to

[2:04:16] extend in the event that it is

[2:04:17] in the best interest of

[2:04:18] the city And if we go beyond

[2:04:22] that cooperative procurement

[2:04:23] period, the department has

[2:04:23] indicated that they have a very

[2:04:28] you need to get these trash

[2:04:29] cans rolled out very quickly

[2:04:29] because of the adoption of

[2:04:34] the ordinance and that is why

[2:04:34] we allow the extension of

[2:04:35] the cooperative contract that

[2:04:36] existed at that time.

[2:04:40] So it seems the need is created

[2:04:41] because we didn't do this

[2:04:41] earlier.

[2:04:46] You know, potentially I will

[2:04:46] let the department of.

[2:04:47] Okay got it.

[2:04:51] Of my last question is how do

[2:04:52] we know that we can afford any

[2:04:57] of this Because the city got

[2:04:58] into a settlement where we

[2:04:59] arbitrarily lowered the trash

[2:05:03] fee.

[2:05:04] >> Yes, good question,

[2:05:04] Councilmember.

[2:05:05] So the Postal Service model and

[2:05:10] the budget did include cost to

[2:05:10] provide the relative containers

[2:05:11] and included in the amount that

[2:05:12] is collected.

[2:05:15] That amount is sufficient to

[2:05:18] fund $3 million that the pilot

[2:05:25] okay.

[2:05:26] Okay.

[2:05:26] Thank you for answering

[2:05:27] questions.

[2:05:32] I continue to assert we did not

[2:05:33] need to spend now $63 million

[2:05:33] buying your trash cans for

[2:05:37] the entire city.

[2:05:37] So I would second the motion

[2:05:38] with a friendly amendment that

[2:05:39] we move to vote No.

[2:05:42] One Item 52 are the maker of

[2:05:47] the motion doesn't accept

[2:05:48] the friendly amendment.

[2:05:49] Okay then I will be seconding

[2:05:54] the and I'll be voting no one

[2:05:54] Item 52 and no one Item 112

[2:05:55] Thank you.

[2:05:55] Thank you COUNCILMAN.

[2:06:00] All right.

[2:06:01] Thank you all summer from a

[2:06:01] good line of questions or I

[2:06:02] will go next to Councilmember

[2:06:04] Eli Rivera.

[2:06:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[2:06:06] Let me start by seconding

[2:06:10] the motion and then I will

[2:06:11] express my appreciation to

[2:06:16] Michelle Eastman for stepping

[2:06:17] up to serve on

[2:06:18] the Accessibility Advisory

[2:06:18] Board.

[2:06:19] Michelle brings nearly a decade

[2:06:19] of disability advocacy,

[2:06:23] education and strategy into

[2:06:23] this role, including serving as

[2:06:24] the inaugural program manager

[2:06:25] of a disability resource hub at

[2:06:28] uc San Diego.

[2:06:29] So that experience will be of

[2:06:30] great benefit to the city and

[2:06:30] I'm very appreciative of

[2:06:37] Michelle's willingness to serve

[2:06:37] .

[2:06:44] >> I will move on to item 56

[2:06:49] just to express a quick

[2:06:50] appreciation to the city

[2:06:50] Attorney's office again for

[2:06:55] stepping up and helping enforce

[2:06:56] our living wage prevailing wage

[2:06:57] minimum wage ordinances

[2:07:01] The workers in this city

[2:07:02] hospitality workers in the city

[2:07:03] received a raise on JULY 1st.

[2:07:07] As a result of the actions of

[2:07:08] the Council and this will help

[2:07:09] us ensure that those workers

[2:07:14] get raise that they deserve.

[2:07:15] I want to thank city attorney

[2:07:19] for for going out with me and

[2:07:20] helping let some workers know

[2:07:20] that they are entitled to this

[2:07:24] raise now And obviously

[2:07:25] the work that will come after

[2:07:26] this to ensure the enforcement

[2:07:30] is done well and then lastly

[2:07:31] item 112 I wanted to speak to

[2:07:40] that briefly Last month

[2:07:40] Councilmember Foster as chair

[2:07:41] the Budget Committee initiated

[2:07:45] an important conversation about

[2:07:46] settlements that have involved

[2:07:52] the settlement across the city

[2:07:52] really but especially those

[2:07:53] involving the single police

[2:07:54] department at that point in

[2:07:58] time there was a $160 million

[2:07:59] over the last ten years that

[2:08:00] did not include the $3.1

[2:08:01] million that's been approved

[2:08:07] today.

[2:08:12] It did however, account for

[2:08:13] the $30 million for the death

[2:08:14] of Keno Wilson and $10 million

[2:08:14] for that to their bill.

[2:08:17] McCormack Those are those when

[2:08:21] combined with the $3.1 million

[2:08:27] here equates to almost $45

[2:08:27] million just from three

[2:08:28] lawsuits since DECEMBER of last

[2:08:28] year.

[2:08:33] That's an enormous amount of

[2:08:33] money within each of those

[2:08:39] dollar amounts Our stories that

[2:08:40] involve the death of two miners

[2:08:45] and a officer who alleged

[2:08:45] experiencing racism

[2:08:50] discrimination for over a

[2:08:51] decade.

[2:08:51] So important on multiple

[2:08:52] fronts.

[2:08:57] And so I am hoping that

[2:08:57] the initiation of

[2:08:58] the conversation that

[2:09:03] Councilmember Foster led helps

[2:09:04] us as a city and helps us to

[2:09:09] epd as a department wrestle

[2:09:10] with what can be done to not

[2:09:15] just avoid these costs but

[2:09:15] the even more important cost to

[2:09:18] public trust that each of these

[2:09:23] settlements represent.

[2:09:24] And lastly, it's yet another

[2:09:25] example of why I think it's

[2:09:30] important for us to to figure

[2:09:31] out between now and next budget

[2:09:32] year a way to account for these

[2:09:37] settlement costs and and and

[2:09:37] verdicts when they do go

[2:09:43] against the city in the budgets

[2:09:43] for the departments that are

[2:09:44] for the departments generally

[2:09:49] but specifically for city pd at

[2:09:50] this point you know I don't

[2:09:54] think it would be improper for

[2:09:55] us to take an average of what

[2:09:56] departments are paying out on

[2:10:00] an annual basis and include

[2:10:01] that in the department budget

[2:10:02] When we approve the budget each

[2:10:07] year to give us a more accurate

[2:10:08] reflection of what each

[2:10:08] department is spending and

[2:10:12] costing the city as we balance

[2:10:13] that with the services and

[2:10:14] resources that they're

[2:10:19] providing So I am again

[2:10:19] supportive of the consent

[2:10:20] agenda.

[2:10:24] I'm offering a second but I

[2:10:25] also do think that there's some

[2:10:25] stuff for us to wrestle with

[2:10:26] here.

[2:10:26] >> Thank you.

[2:10:30] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[2:10:30] Thank you, Council members.

[2:10:31] And we do have a motion by

[2:10:32] COUNCILMAN Randall to move

[2:10:32] the consent items to the second

[2:10:35] by council member Della Rivera

[2:10:36] and we will go to Councilmember

[2:10:36] Foster.

[2:10:37] Yes, Thank you, Council

[2:10:37] PRESIDENT.

[2:10:41] I'll try to keep my comments

[2:10:47] brief very quickly.

[2:10:47] I will be supporting

[2:10:48] the consent agenda except I

[2:10:53] would like to register a no

[2:10:54] vote for item 52 which I

[2:10:59] believe is associated with

[2:10:59] the trash item.

[2:11:00] I also would like to

[2:11:06] congratulate the reappointment

[2:11:07] of two of our Commissioners to

[2:11:07] the Commission on these

[2:11:12] practices Living and MR. Clovis

[2:11:13] on Red Just thank you for your

[2:11:13] continued service and your

[2:11:18] willingness to serve on what I

[2:11:19] think is one of the most

[2:11:19] critical boards and commissions

[2:11:20] that we have at the city of San

[2:11:23] Diego And it takes a tremendous

[2:11:30] commitment and dedication to to

[2:11:31] serve on that body By all means

[2:11:31] don't want to take away from

[2:11:36] anybody other commissions or

[2:11:37] boards and with this one is

[2:11:38] just very, very intensive and

[2:11:42] highly critical to what we do

[2:11:43] here at the city.

[2:11:47] Also I just want to speak to

[2:11:48] item 112 quickly.

[2:11:54] I've known Officer Art Scott

[2:11:54] for quite some time.

[2:12:00] He is someone that is was born

[2:12:01] and raised in District four,

[2:12:06] has a wonderful family his

[2:12:06] daughters that are doing great

[2:12:11] things Son in the military and

[2:12:12] just an all around what I like

[2:12:18] to say a good person.

[2:12:19] I think as Councilmember Rivera

[2:12:23] indicated brought forward

[2:12:24] the item last month because we

[2:12:28] need to improve it to see in

[2:12:35] cota I have to put this to

[2:12:40] the mayor's office and yourself

[2:12:41] but I'm looking for what steps

[2:12:46] are we taking to address

[2:12:47] the issues within the San Diego

[2:12:52] Police Department $116 Million

[2:12:57] in Misconduct As we see this

[2:12:58] item where we clearly have

[2:13:03] discriminatory practices we

[2:13:09] need to do better And if

[2:13:10] the mayor's office is not

[2:13:10] looking to make change I can't

[2:13:15] sit back and just look at how

[2:13:16] we are going to be complicit

[2:13:16] and continue this type of

[2:13:17] behavior, continue this type of

[2:13:21] culture.

[2:13:22] So I'll give you a moment if

[2:13:27] you'd like to let me know and

[2:13:28] I'd like to think my colleagues

[2:13:29] would be interested in how are

[2:13:33] we going to address this

[2:13:34] behavior in this culture within

[2:13:39] the police department.

[2:13:39] I appreciate the opportunity,

[2:13:40] Councilmember, and thank you

[2:13:41] for inviting us to your

[2:13:45] committee Last month to speak

[2:13:46] on just overall pd settlements

[2:13:47] and judgments And I think

[2:13:47] through that conversation we

[2:13:51] saw the necessary training and

[2:13:51] investment that department

[2:13:52] needs to be able to improve how

[2:13:53] we engage with the public.

[2:13:57] I don't know enough details on

[2:13:57] the case before you today to

[2:13:58] speak on what internal controls

[2:14:03] we can offer for conduct within

[2:14:04] the department.

[2:14:04] But again I appreciate

[2:14:05] the opportunity last month to

[2:14:09] really speak on the types of

[2:14:09] training, the type of continued

[2:14:10] monitoring of how we engage

[2:14:11] with the community to improve

[2:14:15] the police services that we

[2:14:16] provide so that we don't have

[2:14:16] the items that we've had in

[2:14:17] the past in DECEMBER and

[2:14:21] JANUARY with the horrific

[2:14:22] settlement that we had back

[2:14:22] then.

[2:14:26] So it's I think just a

[2:14:27] consistent effort that needs to

[2:14:28] be prioritized not only during

[2:14:33] budget season but year round

[2:14:34] And I think you have

[2:14:34] the support and belief within

[2:14:35] the department to execute on

[2:14:39] that So thank you.

[2:14:40] I want to thank you for that

[2:14:40] And I just cannot stress enough

[2:14:45] and I've said this police

[2:14:45] training is not new and we do

[2:14:46] do a considerable amount of

[2:14:51] training for our officers.

[2:14:51] I think we need to make sure

[2:14:52] that we look at

[2:14:53] the effectiveness of that

[2:14:53] training but also we need to

[2:14:57] make sure that we have

[2:14:58] accountability And I think

[2:14:59] that's a very, very important

[2:15:03] factor And something that we

[2:15:03] cannot set aside.

[2:15:04] So just as we talk about

[2:15:09] looking at our training,

[2:15:10] looking at de-escalation, we

[2:15:11] also need to look at

[2:15:11] accountability.

[2:15:15] And one thing I will say and I

[2:15:16] saw a statement that came out

[2:15:16] regarding the play that came

[2:15:21] out addressed to the Commission

[2:15:21] on Police practices

[2:15:26] Unacceptable, unacceptable.

[2:15:32] I understand why the play

[2:15:32] exists.

[2:15:33] >> But you know what Let's do

[2:15:38] right.

[2:15:39] The executive board needs to

[2:15:40] get in a role.

[2:15:40] They need to have a

[2:15:44] conversation and they need to

[2:15:44] help address the issues within

[2:15:45] the department.

[2:15:46] Don't look externally, don't

[2:15:50] blame the commission

[2:15:51] the misconduct that we're

[2:15:53] that's being discussed or a

[2:15:59] direct result of our officers

[2:16:00] And that's where that

[2:16:01] conversation needs to make sure

[2:16:02] where we keep that conversation

[2:16:06] and that goes back to

[2:16:06] accountability.

[2:16:07] And so it's time for the police

[2:16:12] to step up and do what's right

[2:16:12] .

[2:16:13] Quit throwing rocks, quit

[2:16:13] blaming other people.

[2:16:14] You're the ones that put

[2:16:17] the uniform on every day.

[2:16:18] You're the one that that goes

[2:16:19] out to be able to protect and

[2:16:19] serve.

[2:16:20] Let's protect and serve

[2:16:23] everyone.

[2:16:24] >> Let's make sure that we're

[2:16:29] making opportunities available

[2:16:30] to him.

[2:16:30] >> Three minutes.

[2:16:31] You're right.

[2:16:31] We're discussing a case on an

[2:16:32] officer, an African-American

[2:16:35] officer.

[2:16:36] I don't believe we have one

[2:16:36] African-American officer that's

[2:16:37] on the executive board of

[2:16:41] the play.

[2:16:42] Before you want to attack

[2:16:43] the commission, let's address

[2:16:43] that.

[2:16:47] Let's be inclusive and let's

[2:16:47] fix that.

[2:16:48] So thank you.

[2:16:53] I look forward to the continued

[2:16:54] conversations, Kota because we

[2:16:55] have work to do And so Council

[2:16:59] PRESIDENT I will conclude my

[2:16:59] comments there.

[2:17:00] Thank you.

[2:17:00] All right.

[2:17:04] Thank you, Councilmember Foster

[2:17:05] looks like everyone has spoken

[2:17:06] who wants to offer a couple of

[2:17:10] comments mainly driven by

[2:17:10] public comment.

[2:17:11] You know we're always

[2:17:12] interested in public insight

[2:17:17] about how we put our agenda and

[2:17:17] how we word things.

[2:17:18] But when I am 100 says

[2:17:19] independent legal counsel for

[2:17:23] the Office of the City Auditor

[2:17:23] and the Audit Committee, I'm

[2:17:24] not sure what else we can do

[2:17:28] and why it gets confused with

[2:17:29] the office of the aba But if

[2:17:30] you want to make some

[2:17:35] improvements about how our

[2:17:35] languages are please let us

[2:17:36] know.

[2:17:36] Thank you MR. Right now for

[2:17:40] being in the audience on this

[2:17:41] one and the work that it took

[2:17:41] to get this item forward and

[2:17:46] also brief comments as final

[2:17:46] two.

[2:17:47] I want to congratulate those

[2:17:48] commissioners on the cpd that

[2:17:52] are willing to continue their

[2:17:52] public service and be

[2:17:53] reappointed to the acp.

[2:17:57] The Commission on Public Police

[2:17:58] Practices and to the public

[2:17:58] comment that suggest that

[2:18:03] yesterday's action that

[2:18:03] the Council did any cherry

[2:18:04] picking of who would be

[2:18:05] appointed to the vacant seat I

[2:18:08] thoroughly and completely

[2:18:09] reject that If you actually had

[2:18:14] paid attention to that I'm not

[2:18:15] sure there was a 100% but

[2:18:15] the Commission on Police

[2:18:16] Practices did their own vetting

[2:18:20] of a candidate and made their

[2:18:20] recommendation.

[2:18:21] I don't know that we hit 100%

[2:18:22] of their recommendations but

[2:18:25] pretty darn close.

[2:18:26] And so I'm very proud of

[2:18:27] the work that those people that

[2:18:31] are willing to step up to serve

[2:18:31] on the commission who

[2:18:32] understand the assignment in

[2:18:33] front of them and the process

[2:18:36] that we went through to make

[2:18:36] appointments you're always

[2:18:37] going to lose someone who is

[2:18:42] highly qualified but there's

[2:18:42] always openings that reemerge

[2:18:43] on the commission and I hope

[2:18:47] they will engage again.

[2:18:48] But I just want to make that

[2:18:48] point.

[2:18:53] So with that we have a motion

[2:18:54] by Councilmember Moreno and a

[2:18:55] second by Councilmember Ila

[2:18:55] Rivera.

[2:18:59] The move the consent items

[2:18:59] please call the vote.

[2:19:00] >> I start the voting system.

[2:19:10] Please cast your vote That

[2:19:10] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with

[2:19:11] Councilmember Campos absent and

[2:19:15] Councilmember Van Wilpert

[2:19:16] voting no when I was 52 and 112

[2:19:17] and Councilmember Foster voting

[2:19:20] no on item 52.

[2:19:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[2:19:21] All right.

[2:19:21] No objection.

[2:19:22] Thank you for catching those no

[2:19:25] votes.

[2:19:26] Next, do we have any comments

[2:19:27] from the mayor's office?

[2:19:31] Councilmember City attorney,

[2:19:32] independent budget analysts or

[2:19:32] city clerk Not seeing any.

[2:19:36] Oh, sorry.

[2:19:37] Councilmember Rivera Thank you,

[2:19:37] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:19:38] I appreciate the opportunity.

[2:19:41] I did want to speak to

[2:19:42] something that troubled me over

[2:19:46] the last week and it's killing

[2:19:50] of two men Lorenzo Legado Raul

[2:19:51] and Johann Sebastian Guerrero.

[2:19:55] Lorenzo was 52 years old.

[2:19:56] He had spent 35 years in this

[2:19:57] country, had three American

[2:20:00] sons, one a teacher, one an

[2:20:01] engineer, one still in college.

[2:20:02] He had no criminal record and

[2:20:05] he was driving his construction

[2:20:06] crew to a job site in Houston

[2:20:07] Last Tuesday morning when I saw

[2:20:10] officers shot him and killed

[2:20:14] him as a sunset after nearly 35

[2:20:15] years of working to give us

[2:20:16] the American dream, he made

[2:20:17] the choice to begin the process

[2:20:17] of obtaining his American dream

[2:20:20] through a work permit.

[2:20:21] We dotted every I crossed every

[2:20:21] t field, every document

[2:20:24] attended every appointment.

[2:20:25] He was close to obtaining his

[2:20:28] legal status and he even had a

[2:20:28] biometric scan and fingerprints

[2:20:33] done earlier this year

[2:20:34] Reynaldo, his son said that his

[2:20:35] mother was told something bad

[2:20:39] had happened to his dad around

[2:20:40] 7 A.M. Last Tuesday after

[2:20:40] frantically looking for him at

[2:20:41] his job site and finding his

[2:20:47] empty van.

[2:20:48] His son saw a video and he said

[2:20:49] I recognized him not from his

[2:20:51] appearance but from his voice

[2:20:52] crying for help as he lay on

[2:20:56] the street.

[2:21:01] >> He was crying for help while

[2:21:01] he was bleeding in the street

[2:21:02] with handcuffs on.

[2:21:06] That's not how his son wants

[2:21:07] his father to be remembered not

[2:21:07] as someone who got shot and

[2:21:11] killed but as a family man a

[2:21:12] man who understood the good

[2:21:12] things come to those who put in

[2:21:16] hard work.

[2:21:16] Yohan was 26.

[2:21:21] He was a delivery driver and

[2:21:21] authorized to work here

[2:21:22] Yesterday morning on his way to

[2:21:25] work ice agents rammed his car,

[2:21:26] fired through his windshield

[2:21:31] and killed him And he was also

[2:21:35] not the subject of of a warrant

[2:21:41] His partner was on her knees in

[2:21:41] the street.

[2:21:42] Their three year old daughter

[2:21:43] was standing next to her in her

[2:21:49] blue pajamas.

[2:21:50] >> In both cases the Department

[2:21:50] of Homeland Security said

[2:21:51] the same thing It has said

[2:21:52] again and again that the man

[2:21:58] weaponized his vehicle and that

[2:21:58] the officer feared for his

[2:21:59] life.

[2:21:59] We've heard that account before

[2:22:03] We heard that in Minneapolis.

[2:22:04] We heard that in Texas.

[2:22:05] We've heard that again and

[2:22:07] again.

[2:22:08] And when footage has emerged it

[2:22:12] has not matched what we're told

[2:22:12] The men who witness

[2:22:13] the shooting of Lorenzo, his

[2:22:16] brother and two of their

[2:22:17] coworkers spoke to their family

[2:22:18] members while on Immigration

[2:22:18] and Customs Enforcement

[2:22:21] detention where officers are

[2:22:22] urging them to sign paperwork

[2:22:23] for their removal from

[2:22:26] the country so that they cannot

[2:22:31] testify to what they saw.

[2:22:31] Neither of these men was

[2:22:32] stopped for a crime.

[2:22:34] Neither was accused of one.

[2:22:35] They were going to work.

[2:22:36] They were brown men going to

[2:22:39] work and they were targeted

[2:22:40] exactly for that.

[2:22:44] We've heard the stories that

[2:22:45] ice has told about both of

[2:22:49] these killings already change

[2:22:50] Again, these allegations of

[2:22:50] quote unquote weapons

[2:22:54] weaponization of vehicles has

[2:22:54] now become a more vague claim

[2:22:58] of concern for public safety.

[2:22:59] As of this morning ice agents

[2:23:03] have been told to immediately

[2:23:04] halt most vehicle stops

[2:23:04] nationwide.

[2:23:05] That's not enough.

[2:23:08] The families of Lorenzo and

[2:23:09] Johan deserve truth and

[2:23:09] justice.

[2:23:10] Why does that matter here?

[2:23:14] Because San Diego is a border

[2:23:15] city obviously, But we're also

[2:23:15] the city we are because of our

[2:23:18] immigrant refugee communities.

[2:23:19] So folks who take care of our

[2:23:19] children who run small

[2:23:20] businesses and who literally

[2:23:23] build a city, they're watching

[2:23:23] what's happening and doing

[2:23:27] the math about whether it's

[2:23:28] safe to go to work.

[2:23:32] That fear is not incidental,

[2:23:33] that terror is the point that

[2:23:34] this regime is intending to

[2:23:37] inflict upon our communities.

[2:23:38] We cannot pretend that it's

[2:23:38] normal.

[2:23:42] Ice is beyond reform.

[2:23:43] It should be disbanded,

[2:23:44] abolished however you want to

[2:23:47] say it.

[2:23:48] One last point on this There's

[2:23:51] no footage for either of these

[2:23:52] killings.

[2:23:55] That's despite Congress giving

[2:23:56] a $75 billion making it

[2:23:56] the highest funded law

[2:23:57] enforcement agency in

[2:24:00] the federal government with

[2:24:01] more money than the fbi,

[2:24:01] the dea, the atf and the U.S.

[2:24:05] Marshals combined.

[2:24:06] It's a choice not to have

[2:24:10] cameras, a choice to inflict

[2:24:11] this sort of terror on our

[2:24:14] communities and it's critical

[2:24:15] that it stop.

[2:24:16] So with that council PRESIDENT,

[2:24:19] I'd ask that we hold a moment

[2:24:20] of silence for Lorenzo Yohan

[2:24:39] and their families.

[2:24:39] Thank you.

[2:24:40] Go to prison.

[2:24:40] All right.

[2:24:41] Thank you.

[2:24:42] Councilmember member Rara.

[2:24:42] >> We'll go next to council

[2:24:47] member Von Wilpert.

[2:24:48] >> I want to thank COUNCILMAN

[2:24:51] Little Rivera for your comments

[2:24:51] .

[2:24:52] >> What ice is doing in our

[2:24:56] nation is completely lawless.

[2:24:56] It's completely chaotic and

[2:24:57] it's wrong.

[2:25:01] We here voted at the city of

[2:25:02] San Diego to join the lawsuit

[2:25:02] with Minneapolis to stop ice

[2:25:03] from coming into our

[2:25:06] communities without warrants

[2:25:06] with their guns.

[2:25:10] We train police around this

[2:25:11] nation not to shoot into moving

[2:25:15] vehicles unless it's absolutely

[2:25:16] necessary And none of

[2:25:16] the circumstances that are

[2:25:17] coming out about the shootings

[2:25:20] in Texas or in Maine would lead

[2:25:20] us to believe that was

[2:25:24] necessary at all.

[2:25:25] >> So I hope that we can

[2:25:29] continue to push forward with

[2:25:30] this lawsuit.

[2:25:30] We can continue to push forward

[2:25:31] doing everything we can to keep

[2:25:33] ice out of our communities here

[2:25:34] in San Diego.

[2:25:38] But I'm also really completely

[2:25:39] baffled by the fact that our

[2:25:44] U.S. Government won't even put

[2:25:44] basic constitutional guardrails

[2:25:45] on ice like our police have to

[2:25:49] do And that's a federal issue.

[2:25:49] We can't vote on that here

[2:25:53] The city of San Diego.

[2:25:54] But I hope that we continue to

[2:25:54] push our federal officials if

[2:25:55] they're going to continue this,

[2:25:57] they have to do their job in

[2:25:58] making sure every agency

[2:25:59] follows the United States

[2:26:04] Constitution in this country.

[2:26:05] But thank you member over here

[2:26:05] for raising up the families

[2:26:07] that are suffering.

[2:26:08] All right.

[2:26:09] Thank you, Council member Von

[2:26:09] Wolpert.

[2:26:10] Anybody else requesting to

[2:26:11] speak at this time We will now

[2:26:12] take up not agenda public

[2:26:16] comment Council members respect

[2:26:17] and appreciate the public.

[2:26:18] Some are fully committed to

[2:26:18] protecting every participant's

[2:26:22] free speech rights at Council

[2:26:22] and committee meetings.

[2:26:23] >> Please proceed with public

[2:26:23] comment.

[2:26:24] Thank you.

[2:26:26] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 on

[2:26:26] Agenda Public comment is an

[2:26:27] opportunity for members of

[2:26:30] the public to comment on items

[2:26:31] that are not on the agenda but

[2:26:31] within the subject matter

[2:26:32] jurisdiction of the City

[2:26:32] Council.

[2:26:35] Each speaker will have two

[2:26:36] minutes.

[2:26:36] Please note if there are eight

[2:26:37] or more speakers on a single

[2:26:38] topic the maximum time for

[2:26:40] the topic will be 16 minutes.

[2:26:41] If you're in chambers please

[2:26:41] submit your speaker slip to

[2:26:42] the front of the room If you're

[2:26:45] joining us virtually please

[2:26:46] raise your hand to speak by

[2:26:46] tapping the raise your hand

[2:26:47] icon or if you're calling

[2:26:50] participant Star nine We'll

[2:26:51] start with Brother Steven

[2:26:51] Gerrard z Lasky if you can

[2:26:55] please come up to the podium.

[2:26:55] I know you have something on

[2:26:56] the docket that we will be

[2:26:59] sharing Paul Krueger and Laurie

[2:27:00] Saldana If you can also please

[2:27:04] come up to the Yellow Reserves

[2:27:04] seats as well as allegedly

[2:27:05] Andre and Maximilian Schmidt.

[2:27:09] You'll have two minutes.

[2:27:09] >> Thank you.

[2:27:14] San Diego Council member

[2:27:14] citizens and all listening and

[2:27:15] participating Steven Gerrard's

[2:27:18] would love ski a third order

[2:27:19] Franciscan I'd like to up with

[2:27:22] open with holy Scripture

[2:27:23] because the Holy Bible guides

[2:27:27] us lovingly Proverbs 815 says

[2:27:28] By me Kings reign and rulers

[2:27:32] issued decrees that are just

[2:27:33] emphasizing that all earthly

[2:27:36] authority leadership and fair

[2:27:37] governance are ultimately

[2:27:38] derived from GOD's wisdom.

[2:27:42] Sounds like our leaders need to

[2:27:43] move to the Holy Bible and

[2:27:43] GOD's wisdom is what it sounds

[2:27:47] like to me with what's going on

[2:27:47] in America today.

[2:27:51] I continue to amplify new usa

[2:27:56] preborn personhood cities.

[2:27:57] It's a new direction that

[2:28:01] America can move in.

[2:28:01] I put upon the overhead

[2:28:06] the many verses of theological

[2:28:10] covenant theology and as you

[2:28:11] continue to delve into your

[2:28:15] holy Scripture from time to

[2:28:15] time, covenant theology is what

[2:28:16] our wonderful Founding Fathers

[2:28:20] knew very well and that's how

[2:28:24] the us Constitution came about

[2:28:24] .

[2:28:25] I will let you know I have

[2:28:26] attended the Washington dc

[2:28:29] MARCH for Life also

[2:28:29] the California MARCH for Life

[2:28:30] and on various occasions

[2:28:34] the San Diego a Walk for Life.

[2:28:35] There is no place for violence

[2:28:39] in the world and there's no

[2:28:39] place for violence of

[2:28:40] the innocent little ones

[2:28:43] developing in the mother's.

[2:28:44] There is a beating heart in

[2:28:48] the mother's with separate dna

[2:28:48] .

[2:28:49] Pre-Born personhood can now be

[2:28:53] established possibly even in

[2:28:54] the district's mission.

[2:28:54] San Diego is in District seven.

[2:28:58] Let's do it there.

[2:28:58] That's beautiful.

[2:28:59] We've got the festival

[2:29:00] The bells coming up here this

[2:29:00] weekend.

[2:29:03] I invite all of you to come

[2:29:04] listen to the beautiful

[2:29:05] festival The bells, the ringing

[2:29:08] of the bells will be 12 noon

[2:29:08] Sunday.

[2:29:09] i hope to be there for

[2:29:11] the blessing of the animals

[2:29:12] Bring your animals 12 noon

[2:29:17] Saturday like that.

[2:29:17] GOD bless you.

[2:29:21] Next we have Paul Kruger.

[2:29:22] >> You also have a presentation

[2:29:26] that will be put up.

[2:29:27] Thank you very much.

[2:29:28] I'm disappointed that

[2:29:32] the council member from my

[2:29:32] district left the days before

[2:29:36] listening to these comments but

[2:29:41] if Kevin chosen it's not

[2:29:41] important.

[2:29:41] I'm just here to restate

[2:29:45] the importance of your taking

[2:29:46] any action you can to reopen

[2:29:50] the closed restrooms in Mission

[2:29:50] Bay.

[2:29:54] Um I think the postings I've

[2:29:55] seen on social media have

[2:29:59] received at least 5000

[2:29:59] responses from San Diego who

[2:30:03] are concerned upset,

[2:30:04] frustrated, angry about these

[2:30:05] closures.

[2:30:09] And while I understand your

[2:30:09] power over the budget is

[2:30:14] limited, I urge you to please

[2:30:15] take some action to work to

[2:30:19] either find the money to reopen

[2:30:20] the restrooms or to work with

[2:30:24] groups that will do this work

[2:30:24] voluntarily.

[2:30:28] As I said yesterday, I have no

[2:30:29] idea of the constraints on

[2:30:33] volunteer groups handling

[2:30:34] issues like this because of

[2:30:38] labor but please examine that

[2:30:39] possibility.

[2:30:43] You know I spoke before about

[2:30:43] what I thought was a terrible

[2:30:48] dereliction of responsibility

[2:30:48] when the mayor cut $70 million

[2:30:52] from arts without first

[2:30:53] surveying the available money

[2:30:57] in the nonprofit contribution

[2:31:02] area or working closely with

[2:31:03] arts groups to come up with

[2:31:07] ways to backfill all this money

[2:31:07] before it was cut.

[2:31:08] Now we know it was reinstated.

[2:31:12] That's fine.

[2:31:13] But I think it's also

[2:31:13] absolutely even more

[2:31:17] unacceptable that the money was

[2:31:18] cut for these restrooms without

[2:31:21] looking for alternatives to

[2:31:22] keep them open And I hope that

[2:31:27] one of them or more of you will

[2:31:28] take some action to work with

[2:31:31] these groups that are trying to

[2:31:32] keep these restaurants

[2:31:32] restrooms open.

[2:31:33] >> Thank you.

[2:31:33] Thank you.

[2:31:36] Laurie Saldana, You have a

[2:31:41] video you'd like to share?

[2:31:41] Yeah.

[2:31:44] Do you want the photo first or

[2:31:44] the videos first?

[2:31:45] >> The video please.

[2:31:49] Thank you.

[2:31:50] So what this is going to show

[2:31:54] is a last night high tide in

[2:31:55] Mission Beach at the south end

[2:32:01] of Mission Boulevard and high

[2:32:04] tide came last night about 9:00

[2:32:05] And this is becoming

[2:32:06] increasingly a public safety

[2:32:06] issue.

[2:32:09] The high tide without any storm

[2:32:10] surge behind it is routinely

[2:32:11] flooding the alleyways and

[2:32:15] the parking lots at the south

[2:32:15] end of Mission Beach.

[2:32:16] So I can pause for your time

[2:32:17] until we can.

[2:32:18] >> All right.

[2:32:22] Thank you.

[2:32:26] I'm standing at the corner here

[2:32:32] and that wasn't the entire one

[2:32:32] that doesn't really show this

[2:32:33] truck.

[2:32:33] >> And there were other trucks

[2:32:36] that were speeding through this

[2:32:37] standing water and the water is

[2:32:40] now completely exceeded

[2:32:41] the storm drain capacity.

[2:32:41] This is becoming increasingly

[2:32:45] it needs to be a planned

[2:32:46] retreat zone.

[2:32:50] You can plan to move these

[2:32:51] buildings out And there is an

[2:32:51] image showing the high tide

[2:32:55] table there you can plan or you

[2:32:56] can have a catastrophic retreat

[2:33:00] which is when we see a choice

[2:33:01] where in the Choice Creek area

[2:33:02] where people's lives are at

[2:33:04] risk as well as property.

[2:33:05] I want to encourage this

[2:33:05] council to think in terms of

[2:33:09] public safety, to think in

[2:33:10] terms of how people are acting

[2:33:14] when the water is flooding And

[2:33:15] this actually is right outside

[2:33:15] of what used to be apartments

[2:33:19] and is now 90% in one building.

[2:33:20] Short term vacation rentals

[2:33:24] offer these people some

[2:33:24] compensation to move them out

[2:33:25] of this area and create a

[2:33:29] retreat area or you will have

[2:33:30] catastrophic losses along these

[2:33:33] coastal areas.

[2:33:34] Finally I just want to say

[2:33:34] thank you MR. Foster.

[2:33:39] I guess he is departed his

[2:33:39] comment about p away Anyone of

[2:33:44] you who has taken money from

[2:33:45] pay and use that for your

[2:33:46] campaigns or plans to do so in

[2:33:48] the future I think their

[2:33:49] attitude as reflected in their

[2:33:50] comments tells you all you need

[2:33:53] to know about why that is not a

[2:33:54] good idea and why I moved for

[2:33:58] the county party platform to

[2:33:58] refuse money from law

[2:33:59] enforcement agencies.

[2:34:00] They rely on you for their

[2:34:03] salaries.

[2:34:04] >> You should not be getting

[2:34:04] money in return.

[2:34:05] Thank you for that concluding

[2:34:05] comment.

[2:34:08] Allegedly address And then

[2:34:08] Maximillian Schmidt is the last

[2:34:11] person here in council chambers

[2:34:11] .

[2:34:16] I can't forget about Blair.

[2:34:21] >> I mean Bernie, I just find

[2:34:22] it extremely difficult to

[2:34:25] listen to you speak

[2:34:26] hypocritically about wanting to

[2:34:31] uphold the Constitution And

[2:34:31] because you're infringing on

[2:34:36] our Second Amendment and it

[2:34:36] even says in there shall not be

[2:34:37] infringed.

[2:34:40] So I mean you can't be on both

[2:34:45] sides of that either You're

[2:34:46] totally supportive of all of it

[2:34:46] or have none of it And I find

[2:34:50] that you're probably supportive

[2:34:50] of none of it because otherwise

[2:34:51] you would uphold all of it And

[2:34:55] that goes for all of you guys.

[2:34:55] But it's sad to hear you talk

[2:34:59] about deaths of people.

[2:35:00] Nobody should be dying and

[2:35:01] murdered of course, but it's

[2:35:04] happening in your guys's city.

[2:35:06] I come to you time and again

[2:35:09] until you guys about people

[2:35:10] dying at Tent City and it's

[2:35:13] because they're homeless that

[2:35:14] you guys don't care if they

[2:35:18] were illegal or undocumented as

[2:35:19] people would like to say then

[2:35:20] you guys would What you did at

[2:35:24] Cesar Chavez Park immediately

[2:35:24] get those people out of that

[2:35:25] encampment because it was

[2:35:29] sensitive And it's like yet

[2:35:34] people die like I mean even

[2:35:34] Sean last year was saying like

[2:35:38] we need to look into this and

[2:35:39] imagine if he would have ten

[2:35:39] more 12 more people wouldn't

[2:35:43] have died.

[2:35:44] >> But it's okay.

[2:35:44] They're homeless.

[2:35:45] It's more money.

[2:35:45] You know, check the boxes of

[2:35:48] like you know, saying that

[2:35:49] there's more of them So we need

[2:35:52] more money to come in And i

[2:35:53] just find it sad because he

[2:35:54] just went on the news and was

[2:35:54] like talking about Tent City

[2:35:57] and Tim Allen's death And it's

[2:35:58] like what a slap in the face to

[2:36:02] that man because he didn't have

[2:36:02] to die And it's like it would

[2:36:03] have been better to have Henry

[2:36:04] up there just so he could

[2:36:07] virtue signal because the guy

[2:36:08] was African American or black

[2:36:08] whatever we want to call it

[2:36:11] these days.

[2:36:12] It's just so sad that you guys

[2:36:13] care about people you don't

[2:36:16] even know while you have people

[2:36:17] presently dying in your own

[2:36:21] city and you don't care.

[2:36:21] >> Maximillian Schmidt, if you

[2:36:30] can please come forward on I

[2:36:35] have no family or friends that

[2:36:39] I'm close with and have been

[2:36:44] homeless in Southern California

[2:36:44] living on the streets for

[2:36:49] almost two years and on

[2:36:50] the vast majority of that time

[2:36:50] I have not been staying at

[2:36:54] the shelter.

[2:36:54] I've been sleeping on

[2:36:59] the streets and I am not a

[2:37:03] victim of drug addiction or a

[2:37:08] victim of just a mental illness

[2:37:09] because I've also been told

[2:37:13] them schizophrenic.

[2:37:14] I'm a victim of the Masonic

[2:37:15] Lodge depopulating homeless

[2:37:19] people and the Freemasons.

[2:37:20] A lot of people don't know

[2:37:22] about the Freemasons but

[2:37:22] the three Masons are

[2:37:23] depopulating homeless people

[2:37:28] across the world And when

[2:37:28] the Freemasons do occult group

[2:37:32] rituals in the Masonic Lodge

[2:37:33] they actually become possessed

[2:37:33] by the devil and telepathic And

[2:37:37] what they do is called Zeus

[2:37:37] said Song.

[2:37:38] A lot of people know what Zeus

[2:37:39] had sign Gaslighting is but

[2:37:41] they don't know that

[2:37:42] the Freemasons are doing it to

[2:37:46] homeless people and literally

[2:37:47] depopulating them in San Diego

[2:37:51] And what they do is they

[2:37:51] pretend to have a conversation

[2:37:52] with each other and really they

[2:37:56] say your thoughts out loud and

[2:37:56] it's called a targeted

[2:38:00] conversation And if you're

[2:38:01] homeless living on the streets

[2:38:01] they're surround you at all

[2:38:02] times doing this.

[2:38:05] So they're constantly acting

[2:38:06] like some GOD figures And who

[2:38:10] are you supposed to turn to?

[2:38:10] No one.

[2:38:11] No one believes you if you tell

[2:38:12] them If you go to the police

[2:38:15] they say you're crazy.

[2:38:16] No one What do you do in a

[2:38:19] society that normalizes

[2:38:20] the third eye makes it clear

[2:38:21] that they can see through your

[2:38:21] eyes and they can read your

[2:38:25] mind and they constantly are

[2:38:26] making make you aware of that.

[2:38:26] What do you do?

[2:38:30] And no one believes you and all

[2:38:30] city council are Freemasons and

[2:38:31] guilty of depopulating.

[2:38:32] That does conclude your time.

[2:38:52] >> Blair Beekman Right where?

[2:38:53] Beekman Thank you to Gary for

[2:38:53] your words.

[2:38:54] I hope the city of Oakland will

[2:38:57] continue to develop its current

[2:38:58] 18 month process of community

[2:39:03] participation to help find a

[2:39:04] future better principal

[2:39:04] The help prevent provided

[2:39:06] besides plaque a reminder that

[2:39:06] these are surveillance

[2:39:07] technology policy ideas that

[2:39:07] are open participatory

[2:39:12] democracy and best practices.

[2:39:12] These are ideas that tend to

[2:39:16] develop sustainability peace,

[2:39:17] open dialog and not war.

[2:39:18] To note Oakland has a love life

[2:39:21] philosophy that I feel can

[2:39:22] include the idea of do no harm

[2:39:22] to others in their policy

[2:39:23] making promise.

[2:39:26] I want to address and respect a

[2:39:27] long time ally ship between

[2:39:28] the U.S. And Israel and these

[2:39:31] relations ups with the Mideast

[2:39:31] overall.

[2:39:32] But I also want to note I am

[2:39:36] simply dedicated as many people

[2:39:36] are at this time in history to

[2:39:37] be developing concepts of peace

[2:39:40] dialog and participatory

[2:39:41] democracy is how to address

[2:39:42] policymaking before the policy

[2:39:46] practices of state violence,

[2:39:47] genocide and continual war upon

[2:39:47] innocent people.

[2:39:51] Interestingly, people of local

[2:39:52] us communities are starting to

[2:39:52] better address us data

[2:39:56] companies like Floc at this

[2:39:56] time as clock seems to be over

[2:39:57] Developing this data within

[2:39:58] the context of supporting

[2:40:00] international policies of war

[2:40:01] and its harm To admit I'm not

[2:40:05] fully understanding these

[2:40:06] things but my words are trying

[2:40:07] to connect to a decent reasoned

[2:40:10] approach that MAY be developing

[2:40:10] around the world at this time

[2:40:11] and wanting to collectively try

[2:40:12] to better address the future of

[2:40:15] new corporations like plaque

[2:40:15] and that we can begin to more

[2:40:16] openly and vaguely clearly ask

[2:40:20] and address Are these efforts

[2:40:20] to leave more than just anger

[2:40:24] and hatred towards Israel after

[2:40:25] the past 25 years of shocking

[2:40:25] state violence, pandemics,

[2:40:29] genocide and continual war?

[2:40:30] Hopefully there is a deeper

[2:40:31] question at work at this time

[2:40:32] that asked all of us How can we

[2:40:34] practice the ideals of peace

[2:40:35] and dialog to solve issues and

[2:40:35] not war?

[2:40:38] i hope this can be clarifying

[2:40:39] some of my recent words.

[2:40:40] I would also like to work to

[2:40:44] end work sooner in San Diego if

[2:40:44] possible but I also hope that

[2:40:45] we can all see a good purpose

[2:40:48] to simply create a more

[2:40:49] neutral, safe, clearer

[2:40:50] discussion in the fall of 26

[2:40:50] and 20 seven.

[2:40:52] >> Thanks.

[2:40:53] >> Thank you.

[2:40:54] That does conclude your time.

[2:40:54] I have started the five minute

[2:40:57] timer and we will turn to

[2:40:58] virtual comment or begin with

[2:41:00] Madison.

[2:41:06] Please begin.

[2:41:07] >> Hello San Diego City

[2:41:07] Council.

[2:41:08] I'm here to follow up on my

[2:41:11] comment from yesterday's

[2:41:12] meeting and highlight why youth

[2:41:12] drug prevention should be a

[2:41:13] bigger priority for city

[2:41:16] council.

[2:41:16] Despite years of commercial

[2:41:17] marijuana sales, California is

[2:41:20] still fighting a massive

[2:41:21] illegal marijuana market.

[2:41:22] That means our response cannot

[2:41:26] simply be about enforcement.

[2:41:26] It must also include

[2:41:27] prevention.

[2:41:31] As a parent my greatest concern

[2:41:32] is the impact on young people.

[2:41:35] Today's marijuana is far more

[2:41:35] potent than what previous

[2:41:36] generations were exposed to.

[2:41:40] And research continues to link

[2:41:41] frequent adolescent use with

[2:41:42] increased risks of addiction

[2:41:46] psychosis, depression, anxiety

[2:41:50] impaired learning and changes

[2:41:51] to the developing brain all of

[2:41:52] which will obviously harm

[2:41:55] society at large as this

[2:41:55] generation grows up.

[2:41:56] When marijuana becomes more

[2:42:00] visible and more normalized,

[2:42:01] many young people perceive it

[2:42:01] as less harmful.

[2:42:05] That makes prevention even more

[2:42:06] important.

[2:42:06] We need to invest in education

[2:42:10] That gives youth accurate

[2:42:11] science based information

[2:42:15] before they begin experimenting

[2:42:15] .

[2:42:16] I encourage the city to

[2:42:17] continue supporting youth

[2:42:20] prevention programs, public

[2:42:20] education and community

[2:42:25] partnerships that help delay or

[2:42:25] prevent marijuana use

[2:42:26] altogether.

[2:42:26] Every dollar invested in

[2:42:30] prevention can spare a young

[2:42:31] person from lifelong health

[2:42:35] consequences and reduce future

[2:42:35] costs to our health care and

[2:42:36] behavioral health care systems.

[2:42:40] Enforcement is important

[2:42:40] because it addresses today's

[2:42:45] illegal market.

[2:42:45] But prevention protects

[2:42:46] tomorrow's generation.

[2:42:50] So I urge you to make forth a

[2:42:50] priority.

[2:42:51] >> Thank you.

[2:42:51] Thank you.

[2:42:55] Our next speaker is Terry and

[2:42:55] Scully.

[2:42:59] >> Please begin.

[2:43:00] >> Good afternoon.

[2:43:00] San Diego City Council

[2:43:01] PRESIDENT McEvoy.

[2:43:04] My name is Terry and Scully and

[2:43:05] I attend my planning group and

[2:43:08] I also work in public health

[2:43:09] and youth mentoring and

[2:43:09] tutoring programs.

[2:43:14] I applaud the city's vision of

[2:43:14] just healthy and safe

[2:43:18] environment and future for all

[2:43:19] ,especially for those

[2:43:19] communities.

[2:43:20] Historically, a storied glade

[2:43:25] will have to be known as city

[2:43:25] council person Morano described

[2:43:28] this morning regarding Parks.

[2:43:29] My youth mentoring and tutoring

[2:43:30] programs in the city include

[2:43:33] teens from very diverse

[2:43:33] backgrounds on their behalf.

[2:43:37] I came today to report that it

[2:43:38] is these very teens from

[2:43:38] diverse backgrounds who

[2:43:42] experience health inequities

[2:43:43] especially as they've been

[2:43:43] targeted by tobacco and their

[2:43:48] marijuana companies.

[2:43:48] The African-American Tobacco

[2:43:49] Control Leadership Council

[2:43:52] released more excellent

[2:43:53] research regarding how I quote

[2:43:57] Big tobacco strategic Wrigley

[2:43:58] targeted blacks and the deadly

[2:43:58] consequences.

[2:44:03] Now they are taking a close

[2:44:03] look at the role of big

[2:44:04] marijuana as well in creating

[2:44:07] health inequities through their

[2:44:08] promotion of smoking and

[2:44:08] vaping.

[2:44:12] Research continues to grow

[2:44:13] regarding the role of these

[2:44:14] products in creating cancer and

[2:44:17] chronic disease related health

[2:44:18] inequities among my minor

[2:44:23] minority population Asians.

[2:44:23] I respectfully suggest that

[2:44:27] the cities enforcement efforts

[2:44:28] to eliminate intoxicating

[2:44:32] products sometimes nicotine,

[2:44:33] sometimes marijuana sometimes

[2:44:37] cbd be increased and that no

[2:44:38] new business no new business

[2:44:42] permits be allowed for tobacco

[2:44:42] and marijuana businesses They

[2:44:47] only harm those populations and

[2:44:48] you must strive to serve.

[2:44:48] Thank you for hearing my

[2:44:52] concerns this afternoon.

[2:44:52] Thank you.

[2:44:53] Our next speaker is Tony.

[2:45:01] Please begin.

[2:45:02] >> Our next speaker is Tony.

[2:45:04] Tony again.

[2:45:09] Commute for you.

[2:45:10] >> Hello?

[2:45:10] Can you hear me?

[2:45:16] Yes, please begin your comments

[2:45:17] .

[2:45:17] Yes.

[2:45:18] I just submitted something to

[2:45:18] the city clerk.

[2:45:19] Is it possible to pull up

[2:45:24] the document?

[2:45:25] >> No, I'm sorry.

[2:45:28] Submissions do need to be

[2:45:29] submitted 24 hours ahead of

[2:45:29] time.

[2:45:30] >> Okay then is it possible to

[2:45:34] reset my time?

[2:45:34] >> Yes.

[2:45:35] Well, reset the time.

[2:45:35] Yes.

[2:45:35] Think.

[2:45:38] Thank you.

[2:45:39] I agree with Audra in

[2:45:39] the comments that she made

[2:45:43] earlier regarding Martin von

[2:45:43] Wilpert.

[2:45:44] You can't call yourself an

[2:45:45] activist when you cherry pick

[2:45:47] the Constitution and disregard

[2:45:48] our Fourth Amendment rights by

[2:45:49] voting in favor of floc.

[2:45:52] And as a Chicano mexicano

[2:45:53] American man, I'm tired of

[2:45:54] hearing you politicize the pain

[2:45:57] our people are suffering from

[2:45:58] being targeted through flock

[2:45:58] cameras.

[2:46:02] You voted to empower and I'm

[2:46:02] tired of hearing you cherry

[2:46:03] pick the lowest hanging fruit

[2:46:06] regarding abuse of authority in

[2:46:07] relation to the state owned

[2:46:08] monopoly on violence.

[2:46:11] It's easy for you to pop up

[2:46:12] your chest and pass ordinances

[2:46:13] pretending to hold ice

[2:46:17] accountable when you're serving

[2:46:17] in a sanctuary city.

[2:46:18] It's not so easy for you to

[2:46:21] hold sd pd accountable for 42

[2:46:22] million in public reserve

[2:46:22] funds.

[2:46:26] They've cost us this year

[2:46:27] alone.

[2:46:31] No mention by you ever about

[2:46:31] police brutality.

[2:46:32] On the contrary.

[2:46:33] You vote to give them any toy

[2:46:36] they claim to need and you

[2:46:37] fabricate the reasons why your

[2:46:37] support is justified.

[2:46:40] Just last week you erroneously

[2:46:41] claimed that the half $1

[2:46:45] million armored tac cat was

[2:46:45] used to stop the shooting in

[2:46:46] San Isidro.

[2:46:50] That's not the case.

[2:46:51] That shooter was stopped by a

[2:46:55] sniper and that case is another

[2:46:56] case just like Valade just like

[2:46:59] Columbine where the response by

[2:46:59] law enforcement was so slow

[2:47:04] that it caused a needless

[2:47:04] amount of suffering.

[2:47:05] Just like what happened at

[2:47:09] the Islamic Center in San Diego

[2:47:10] a couple months ago, the all

[2:47:10] the tools, all the funding, all

[2:47:14] the training goes out

[2:47:15] the window The moment that it's

[2:47:15] required to stop innocent lives

[2:47:16] from being lost.

[2:47:19] The moment that courage is

[2:47:20] needed to actually stop the bad

[2:47:23] guys that we give them all

[2:47:24] these tools to go after.

[2:47:24] Just earlier this week lapd

[2:47:28] canceled their contract with

[2:47:29] Flock.

[2:47:33] I sent an article documenting

[2:47:34] how there's been over 161

[2:47:39] drivers that were subjected to

[2:47:39] armed high risk stops after

[2:47:40] automated.

[2:47:40] >> Thank you though does

[2:47:41] conclude your time.

[2:47:44] Dolan Our next speaker is

[2:47:44] Kathleen Lippert.

[2:47:53] Please begin.

[2:47:53] >> Thank you.

[2:47:54] Good afternoon.

[2:47:57] Thank you for letting me speak

[2:47:57] .

[2:47:58] I advocate for sound public

[2:47:59] health prevention policies that

[2:48:02] are effective economical and

[2:48:03] sustainable cities that end up

[2:48:08] with budget deficits are often

[2:48:09] not coincidentally cities that

[2:48:13] have failed to recognize

[2:48:13] the importance of prevention

[2:48:14] strategies.

[2:48:18] Prevention strategies are by

[2:48:19] their nature proactive versus

[2:48:22] reactive reactive policies are

[2:48:23] rarely sustainable but they are

[2:48:28] always costly and their costs

[2:48:29] continue to rise over time.

[2:48:33] Cigaret butts have always one

[2:48:38] of them one of the many of

[2:48:38] the industries that create

[2:48:39] these type could create toxic

[2:48:42] waste that require the public

[2:48:43] to be charged for cleaning them

[2:48:47] up.

[2:48:48] Our tobacco industry alcohol

[2:48:52] industry what they typically do

[2:48:53] is they they privatize, they

[2:48:58] profit and they publicize

[2:49:03] the big cost cigaret butts

[2:49:04] we've been cleaning up for

[2:49:07] decades and telling people that

[2:49:07] they are one of the number one

[2:49:12] waste products in the world But

[2:49:12] we have never taken the step

[2:49:13] the policy step that would

[2:49:17] address genesis of the problem

[2:49:18] and that is we should not allow

[2:49:22] them to be sold in the first

[2:49:22] place.

[2:49:27] >> It would be the city would

[2:49:28] benefit, the public would

[2:49:28] benefit and public health would

[2:49:32] benefit as well as

[2:49:33] the environment.

[2:49:33] If we started we prohibited

[2:49:37] the sale of all single use

[2:49:42] plastic vapes marijuana

[2:49:42] cigarets and cigaret butts with

[2:49:47] filters which do not that that

[2:49:48] do not break down and they

[2:49:53] cause a lot of harm to

[2:49:53] the animals and the wildlife

[2:49:58] and some of the recently

[2:49:58] they've done studies.

[2:49:59] >> Thank you.

[2:50:00] That does conclude your time.

[2:50:02] The five minute timer did go

[2:50:03] off.

[2:50:03] We have six speakers remaining

[2:50:04] in the queue.

[2:50:06] Our next speaker is Becky Rapp.

[2:50:11] >> Please begin.

[2:50:12] >> Good afternoon.

[2:50:13] My name is Becky Rapp and I'd

[2:50:18] like to add my voice to

[2:50:18] the many residents who have

[2:50:19] spoken yesterday and again

[2:50:20] today about the ongoing closure

[2:50:23] of public restrooms and around

[2:50:24] our most popular beaches.

[2:50:25] I want to add my voice because

[2:50:29] this issue affects every

[2:50:29] resident, every visitor and

[2:50:30] the image of our city.

[2:50:34] San Diego's beaches are our

[2:50:34] greatest attraction.

[2:50:35] They bring millions of visitors

[2:50:36] from across the country and

[2:50:39] generate the tourism revenue

[2:50:40] that supports our local

[2:50:40] economy.

[2:50:41] If we allow our beach

[2:50:44] communities to be known for

[2:50:45] closed restrooms, unsanitary

[2:50:46] conditions and hazardous waste,

[2:50:50] we risk losing visitors to

[2:50:51] neighboring destinations like

[2:50:55] our neighbors up north in

[2:50:56] Orange County.

[2:50:56] I urge the Council to

[2:50:57] reevaluate our priorities and

[2:51:00] dedicate funding to reopening,

[2:51:01] maintaining and cleaning public

[2:51:02] beach restrooms.

[2:51:07] I understand funding is a

[2:51:07] problem and encourage you to

[2:51:08] reevaluate enforcement against

[2:51:09] smoking vape shops that

[2:51:12] continue to sell or advertise

[2:51:13] illegal products.

[2:51:14] Fines and fees collected from

[2:51:18] those enforcement actions

[2:51:19] should be reinvested directly

[2:51:20] into the communities most

[2:51:25] impacted especially Pacific

[2:51:25] Beach Mission Beach and

[2:51:26] the Bayfront.

[2:51:26] We also need stronger

[2:51:30] enforcement against illegal

[2:51:30] advertising and the signage in

[2:51:31] storefront windows that are

[2:51:32] blatantly promoting illegal

[2:51:36] products such as kratom

[2:51:37] flavored tobacco and

[2:51:38] intoxicating hemp products that

[2:51:42] are marketed as cbd plus.

[2:51:43] These storefronts and

[2:51:43] billboards send the wrong

[2:51:44] message as they are in

[2:51:47] residence and tourist faces

[2:51:48] when they visit our beautiful

[2:51:48] beach communities.

[2:51:54] Our beach communities are

[2:51:54] the first impression many

[2:51:55] visitors have of San Diego.

[2:51:56] They should reflect a city that

[2:52:00] is clean, safe, healthy and

[2:52:00] welcoming.

[2:52:01] By enforcing existing laws,

[2:52:05] cleaning up our commercial

[2:52:06] corridors and reinvesting those

[2:52:06] revenues into open functional

[2:52:11] public restrooms and beach

[2:52:12] beautification, we can

[2:52:12] strengthen tourism while

[2:52:13] improving the quality of life

[2:52:15] for residents.

[2:52:15] Thank you.

[2:52:18] Please these prior Our next

[2:52:19] speaker is Judy Strange Please

[2:52:25] begin.

[2:52:26] Good afternoon San Diego City

[2:52:31] Council.

[2:52:31] I'd like to continue

[2:52:32] the conversation that began

[2:52:33] yesterday regarding how

[2:52:38] important roads safety is here

[2:52:39] to our city and the cost when

[2:52:44] our city roads aren't safe.

[2:52:45] And bring to your attention to

[2:52:46] the work that's been going on

[2:52:49] nationally regarding

[2:52:50] the serious safety concerns

[2:52:51] that one of the very largest

[2:52:56] organizations, the American

[2:52:57] Trucking Association has

[2:52:57] brought to the national scene

[2:53:02] And that's the concern that

[2:53:02] perhaps marijuana testing would

[2:53:03] be dropped from

[2:53:03] the requirements.

[2:53:04] They very much want it to

[2:53:08] continue.

[2:53:09] As I point out, this includes

[2:53:10] truck drivers, pilots, transit

[2:53:15] operators and they go on to say

[2:53:15] other safety sensitive workers

[2:53:16] and then they list those

[2:53:16] workers.

[2:53:20] They include bus drivers,

[2:53:21] flight attendants, air traffic

[2:53:26] controllers, air mechanics,

[2:53:26] rail operating personnel

[2:53:27] dispatchers, its signal

[2:53:32] personnel, transit operators

[2:53:32] and pipeline workers.

[2:53:33] They all provide safety

[2:53:38] critical high risk duties that

[2:53:39] are so important to us not only

[2:53:40] the city of San Diego but

[2:53:40] nationwide.

[2:53:44] And how important it will be to

[2:53:45] test real time marijuana

[2:53:46] impairment through the testing

[2:53:51] that is now in place.

[2:53:51] So they have written

[2:53:52] the federal government

[2:53:52] the American Trucking

[2:53:56] Association and now they have

[2:53:57] been joined by the National

[2:53:58] Transportation Safety Board who

[2:54:02] also warned about compromising

[2:54:03] our safety by not testing for

[2:54:08] marijuana any longer.

[2:54:09] At this point this requirement

[2:54:10] to test is still in place And I

[2:54:15] think for the sake of

[2:54:15] the traveling public that it

[2:54:16] should stay in place and as a

[2:54:17] hub for travel.

[2:54:21] i think here at San Diego we

[2:54:22] would agree.

[2:54:22] >> Thank you.

[2:54:22] Thank you.

[2:54:24] Our next speaker is Eddie

[2:54:24] Harms.

[2:54:30] Please begin.

[2:54:31] >> Thank you.

[2:54:32] Can you show the second page of

[2:54:32] the document that I apply to

[2:54:36] please?

[2:54:37] I'm sorry Submissions do need

[2:54:37] to be provided 24 hours before

[2:54:42] it was provided last week.

[2:54:43] I'm sorry we do not have that

[2:54:50] at this time So if you could

[2:54:50] please begin.

[2:54:51] If you could reset my time and

[2:54:51] let me start.

[2:54:55] Thank you.

[2:54:55] Good afternoon.

[2:54:56] Comes from across

[2:54:56] the presidents, mayor and

[2:54:57] council members.

[2:54:57] My name is Eddie Harness.

[2:55:01] Everybody knows from being a

[2:55:01] resident of the great city

[2:55:02] something since 2008.

[2:55:03] I'm here today to expose

[2:55:07] the legalize came a computer is

[2:55:08] running on the printers for

[2:55:08] your studio has finalized

[2:55:09] anyone moving to new residents

[2:55:12] by automatically charging

[2:55:12] the absolute maximum for sewer

[2:55:13] services under the arbitrary

[2:55:14] meter monitoring policy.

[2:55:22] Because I'm moving to my home

[2:55:22] in JUNE 2025 be said to

[2:55:23] continue in NOVEMBER to wait

[2:55:24] for monitoring when I was

[2:55:25] forced to pay maximum charges

[2:55:25] for entire year.

[2:55:26] This policy punishing renters

[2:55:27] to stay in one place is

[2:55:30] becoming impossible due to

[2:55:31] constant rate hikes economic

[2:55:32] economic downturn when forced

[2:55:37] to move to move the city resets

[2:55:37] to trap the move.

[2:55:38] The moment I sign a new lease

[2:55:39] I'm hit with a new maximum

[2:55:43] surcharge all over again.

[2:55:44] These are the absurdity.

[2:55:44] It's clear I live in a one

[2:55:48] bedroom, one bathroom home with

[2:55:49] zero landscaping from my

[2:55:50] building and in JUNE 22nd I use

[2:55:56] five acres of water averaging

[2:55:57] 64 gallons per day.

[2:56:01] Yet my total utility bill

[2:56:02] reached $244.

[2:56:06] My water my water based fuel

[2:56:06] surcharge 23% to $71 My source

[2:56:10] ever starts reach $106 as a

[2:56:11] cost of 70%.

[2:56:11] I'm just going to jump here

[2:56:16] because I don't have enough

[2:56:16] time.

[2:56:17] I demand a fair a fair sewer

[2:56:23] rate based on actual water

[2:56:24] usage not a dream of maximum

[2:56:24] capacity scenario designed to

[2:56:25] price Each residence is

[2:56:28] affiliated with a ship and

[2:56:28] needs to be fixed immediately.

[2:56:29] Thank you for your time.

[2:56:29] Thank you.

[2:56:34] Next speaker is caller with

[2:56:34] the last four digits 8700.

[2:56:43] Please begin Joyce in a thank

[2:56:49] you deputy city clerk.

[2:56:50] So like I've done a few times

[2:56:55] before I was really prepared

[2:56:56] and polished to speak on what I

[2:57:01] was going to speak to in

[2:57:02] the public column today and

[2:57:07] they're gone.

[2:57:07] Those comments are gone and I'm

[2:57:08] going to speak extemporaneously

[2:57:13] right now.

[2:57:14] Every single word is coming out

[2:57:19] about what thought what

[2:57:19] happened in these chambers

[2:57:20] today.

[2:57:24] If you feel this is what we've

[2:57:30] been doing all year together,

[2:57:31] this is the only thing for me

[2:57:36] to do together is to struggle

[2:57:43] is the beauty is the fight is

[2:57:44] the love.

[2:57:44] It's the truth.

[2:57:45] It's all of that.

[2:57:49] It's part of the human

[2:57:49] condition.

[2:57:55] It's a miracle but it's also a

[2:57:56] beautiful struggle.

[2:58:01] And I just want to say to every

[2:58:02] body who participated today I

[2:58:07] celebrate you.

[2:58:08] I just This is it, kids.

[2:58:13] This is life.

[2:58:14] Don't MISS It for a minute

[2:58:20] because it's all there is and

[2:58:21] it's precious.

[2:58:21] And ticks, ticks, ticks.

[2:58:26] I I can't believe how fast my

[2:58:31] life has gone in And so I do

[2:58:32] need to say that to all of you

[2:58:32] because you're going on

[2:58:33] the beautiful summer recess.

[2:58:37] Enjoy it.

[2:58:37] I wish you just a great time

[2:58:38] but I don't want us to look at

[2:58:43] this as anything but beautiful.

[2:58:49] This is life itself together.

[2:58:50] Thank you.

[2:58:50] That does conclude your time.

[2:58:51] Thank you all.

[2:58:53] Our next speaker is Amanda.

[2:58:59] >> Please begin.

[2:59:05] I hate to be Debbie Downer in

[2:59:06] up in contrast to the last

[2:59:06] caller but I was actually just

[2:59:11] popping in to think that what

[2:59:11] happened in these chambers

[2:59:16] today was disgraceful.

[2:59:17] >> We spent an hour dueling

[2:59:22] proclamations and celebration

[2:59:23] which I think is beautiful.

[2:59:28] I love that we had 30

[2:59:29] consistent items on the agenda.

[2:59:34] I heard city Council members

[2:59:35] ask what ten questions?

[2:59:43] Maybe we gave 15 million to

[2:59:44] soltero 106,000,002 or

[2:59:45] 3,850,000 to Pasadena

[2:59:48] Consulting 1.2 million to Orion

[2:59:49] Construction right where we

[2:59:55] didn't talk about steel 15

[2:59:56] apartments that we've now spent

[2:59:59] $8 million of interest on a $60

[3:00:00] million loan.

[3:00:00] We spent an hour doing

[3:00:05] celebration and we spent less

[3:00:05] than an hour.

[3:00:06] We didn't get a presentation.

[3:00:11] I didn't know that my my

[3:00:12] garbage was getting recorded.

[3:00:12] I didn't know until I started

[3:00:19] digging that the contractor

[3:00:19] rate rig has increased.

[3:00:23] Where's my numbers Here?

[3:00:24] >> I have a.

[3:00:28] So 2018 City Council entered a

[3:00:29] $3 million contract with for

[3:00:33] the trash collection 2021 up to

[3:00:33] 8.5 million 2021 went up to 38

[3:00:34] million.

[3:00:39] And now today 2035 we're going

[3:00:40] up to $106 million on freaking

[3:00:45] trash cans.

[3:00:46] I think we should spend a

[3:00:47] little bit longer than an hour.

[3:00:47] We need a lot more transparency

[3:00:52] in the city council.

[3:00:52] Honestly, this is embarrassing.

[3:00:53] It's a joke.

[3:00:53] Have a good resource and start

[3:00:57] looking for new jobs because

[3:00:58] whoever we can vote out in

[3:00:58] NOVEMBER is getting voted out.

[3:00:59] >> Thank you.

[3:00:59] Our final speakers Natalie

[3:01:07] Maskey please begin.

[3:01:07] >> Hi Natalie.

[3:01:07] Rush here.

[3:01:13] I just wanted to touch base

[3:01:13] with the gentleman who brought

[3:01:14] up the bathrooms.

[3:01:15] I always forget to mention why

[3:01:19] we were out there on

[3:01:19] the streets.

[3:01:20] I should have said this during

[3:01:21] the budget.

[3:01:24] My children started holding

[3:01:25] going to the bathroom That can

[3:01:30] really really mess up someone's

[3:01:31] intestines and all sorts of

[3:01:31] things.

[3:01:35] i always forget to mention that

[3:01:35] .

[3:01:35] That's sad.

[3:01:41] It's sad.

[3:01:41] With information at our

[3:01:42] fingertips.

[3:01:42] And I've said this before.

[3:01:47] We need to start really doing a

[3:01:48] lot of research on what is

[3:01:49] being implemented by our

[3:01:54] federal government with

[3:01:54] the plaque They're picking up

[3:01:55] blue tubes.

[3:01:59] They're picking up a lot of

[3:01:59] stuff.

[3:02:00] And like I said, I don't want

[3:02:05] to be round up and put on ranch

[3:02:05] because I don't see any other

[3:02:06] direction where the city MAY be

[3:02:11] going with no shelters, no

[3:02:12] bathrooms.

[3:02:12] What are we setting people up

[3:02:13] for?

[3:02:19] Now the city the cow fresh to

[3:02:23] the medical I just don't

[3:02:23] understand.

[3:02:24] And the information has been

[3:02:29] brought to me just for everyone

[3:02:30] to know that has children when

[3:02:30] you go to jump around.

[3:02:34] If you look at the fee waiver

[3:02:35] or data recording our children

[3:02:40] and you're signing up saying

[3:02:41] that it can be used live

[3:02:42] wherever they want to use it in

[3:02:47] other countries.

[3:02:48] So when you go to a jump around

[3:02:48] or bounce around place

[3:02:53] the waiver they're in all of

[3:02:53] them.

[3:02:54] And they're feeding our

[3:02:54] streaming our children's lives

[3:02:58] while they're playing to other

[3:02:58] countries.

[3:02:59] It says it right there in

[3:03:04] the local jump around here.

[3:03:05] We need to start really doing

[3:03:05] research in where we're

[3:03:06] investing our time and our

[3:03:06] money.

[3:03:11] Thank you.

[3:03:11] >> Thank you.

[3:03:12] That does conclude the agenda.

[3:03:12] Public comment.

[3:03:13] I think you Deputy City Clerk

[3:03:18] council members I'm open.

[3:03:18] Thank you.

[3:03:19] I should have said this during

[3:03:19] council comments or we're on

[3:03:20] recess.

[3:03:22] I just want to note that I care

[3:03:23] deeply about people who are

[3:03:23] suffering from overdose and

[3:03:28] addiction whether they're in a

[3:03:29] house, whether in camping,

[3:03:29] whether it parking.

[3:03:34] And I should mention earlier at

[3:03:35] a deputy city attorney I got to

[3:03:39] be one of only litigators suing

[3:03:40] the pharmaceutical companies

[3:03:41] who caused this problem

[3:03:41] including Purdue

[3:03:42] Pharmaceuticals in a for

[3:03:42] feeling themselves who were

[3:03:46] which themselves off the death

[3:03:46] of all of us.

[3:03:47] And then when I got here I

[3:03:48] fought with the mayor over how

[3:03:51] we're going to use

[3:03:52] the settlement funds And I

[3:03:52] fought with the county too,

[3:03:58] including using the funds to

[3:03:59] purchase a medical ban and

[3:04:00] funding put it into system so

[3:04:00] we could actually do street

[3:04:03] medicine that provides Suboxone

[3:04:04] to people on the street so they

[3:04:04] wouldn't have to come into

[3:04:05] the yards to get care.

[3:04:05] We partnered with ucsd Health

[3:04:08] and there are three emergency

[3:04:09] rooms in the college area and

[3:04:10] ucsd and Hillcrest to hire on

[3:04:16] call psychologist and here

[3:04:17] navigators If someone over

[3:04:17] overdoses and survives they no

[3:04:20] longer have a sheet of paper

[3:04:21] and say good luck they actually

[3:04:22] have someone to hold their hand

[3:04:22] to get them into rehab and help

[3:04:26] with that earlier because we do

[3:04:27] care deeply about it.

[3:04:27] So thank you.

[3:04:28] Thank you Councilmember.

[3:04:32] So we will now adjourn for

[3:04:33] the recess and reconvene open

[3:04:33] session at 2 P.M. Or shortly

[3:12:07] thereafter And not

[3:12:48] have

[3:13:50] to

[3:15:50] go

[3:17:21] .

[3:17:21] All right.

[3:17:21] Good afternoon.

[3:17:25] I will now reconvene the city

[3:17:26] council meeting of Tuesday,

[3:17:28] JULY 14th, 2026.

[3:17:29] >> clerk Please call the roll.

[3:17:30] Thank you.

[3:17:30] Council PRESIDENT Council

[3:17:33] member Campbell Council Member

[3:17:34] Whitburn here Council Member

[3:17:39] Foster Council Member Von

[3:17:43] Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro

[3:17:43] Timely Council Member Campo

[3:17:48] Councilmember Moreno Present

[3:17:48] Council Member Ella Rivera and

[3:17:53] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[3:17:53] present.

[3:17:54] Also attending the meeting are

[3:17:54] Assistant City Attorney Leslie

[3:17:57] Fitzgerald, Independent Budget

[3:17:58] Analyst Charles Monica, Council

[3:17:59] Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's

[3:18:03] office, Code advisor and myself

[3:18:03] your city Clerk Diana Fuentes

[3:18:04] Thank you.

[3:18:04] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[3:18:05] Thank you.

[3:18:06] City Clerk a quorum is now

[3:18:07] present with that clerk Please

[3:18:11] introduce item f five oh six

[3:18:12] items 5o6 is the acceptance of

[3:18:15] the Stantec memorandum

[3:18:16] modifying the 2025 water cost

[3:18:16] of service study and

[3:18:19] authorization to issue

[3:18:20] the Proposition 218 notice and

[3:18:21] to set a public hearing date

[3:18:25] for a water rate adjustment.

[3:18:26] If you'd like to speak on this

[3:18:26] item please be sure to raise

[3:18:29] your hand by pressing Star nine

[3:18:29] or you raise your hand icon

[3:18:30] You're here in council chambers

[3:18:33] Please submit your speaker slip

[3:18:33] .

[3:18:34] Thank you and have All right.

[3:18:35] Thank you City Clerk and staff

[3:18:37] as you settle yourself in

[3:18:38] introduce yourselves for

[3:18:39] the record and let us know how

[3:18:39] much time you need.

[3:18:40] >> Okay?

[3:18:40] Thank you.

[3:18:43] Good afternoon.

[3:18:43] I'm Lisa Sliwa, interim

[3:18:44] director of the Public

[3:18:44] Utilities department.

[3:18:47] And with me is Adam Jones,

[3:18:48] deputy director of finance.

[3:18:51] We'll need about ten minutes

[3:18:52] for our presentation today.

[3:18:52] All right.

[3:18:53] When you're ready.

[3:18:56] So as noted today I'll be

[3:18:57] presenting item s5o6 acceptance

[3:19:00] of the Stantec memorandum

[3:19:01] modifying the 2025 water cost

[3:19:02] of service study and

[3:19:06] authorization and to issue

[3:19:07] the Proposition 218 notice and

[3:19:08] set a public hearing date for

[3:19:13] water rate adjustment two items

[3:19:13] today.

[3:19:14] >> First we are requesting

[3:19:18] Council set a public hearing

[3:19:22] date for OCTOBER 6th, 2026 to

[3:19:22] consider and vote on

[3:19:23] the proposed water rate

[3:19:27] adjustments required as a

[3:19:28] result of the Patz litigation.

[3:19:31] Second, I will walk through

[3:19:31] the details of the proposed

[3:19:32] rate adjustments that

[3:19:36] transition at our rates to a

[3:19:37] unitary structure and

[3:19:38] the anticipated monthly impact

[3:19:43] to customers.

[3:19:44] We are here today because of a

[3:19:45] legal decision that is forcing

[3:19:48] a shift in how we structure

[3:19:49] water rates.

[3:19:49] While the city believes

[3:19:53] the rate structure is legally

[3:19:53] compliant, the courts have

[3:19:54] established a different legal

[3:19:58] standard now that all available

[3:19:59] legal remedies have been

[3:20:02] exhausted.

[3:20:03] Our role today is to implement

[3:20:07] the Court's decision.

[3:20:08] As a result, rates will be

[3:20:09] changing for all customer

[3:20:12] categories.

[3:20:13] Our priority is to be proactive

[3:20:14] and transparent in how we

[3:20:17] communicate this change so

[3:20:18] customers understand what is

[3:20:22] happening and why.

[3:20:23] First I'll provide an overview

[3:20:23] of the Pats versus the city of

[3:20:27] San Diego litigation how rates

[3:20:27] are set, what was challenged

[3:20:32] and how the courts ruled.

[3:20:32] Before getting into

[3:20:33] the litigation itself.

[3:20:36] It is important to understand

[3:20:37] how rates are set in our

[3:20:37] industry nationally.

[3:20:41] Utilities use accepted cost of

[3:20:42] service methodologies

[3:20:46] allocating costs to customer

[3:20:46] classes based on engineering

[3:20:50] standards and best assumptions

[3:20:51] about how customers use

[3:20:51] the system.

[3:20:56] Our Industry guidebook is

[3:20:56] the American Waterworks

[3:20:57] Association's m-1 Principles of

[3:21:01] Water Rates, fees and charges

[3:21:02] similar to how engineers relied

[3:21:05] on standard reference codes or

[3:21:06] accountants rely on gasb

[3:21:07] accounting standards.

[3:21:11] >> The city goes a step further

[3:21:11] independently of public

[3:21:12] utilities.

[3:21:16] The aba hires a third party

[3:21:16] party consultant to review our

[3:21:20] cost of service methodology and

[3:21:21] raise any public policy

[3:21:24] concerns or recommendations.

[3:21:25] Tiered water rates are widely

[3:21:26] used throughout California

[3:21:30] because they help balance costs

[3:21:30] ,recovery conservation and

[3:21:31] equity.

[3:21:31] >> With conservation is a

[3:21:35] natural outcome of tearing not

[3:21:40] an objective proposition to 18

[3:21:40] has historically been

[3:21:41] implemented as allowing

[3:21:44] agencies to use reasonable

[3:21:45] engineering judgment within

[3:21:46] accepted cost allocation

[3:21:50] methodologies.

[3:21:51] This is how agencies statewide

[3:21:51] and across the country have

[3:21:58] operated for decades.

[3:21:58] Pass was filed 11 years ago

[3:21:59] today challenging the city's

[3:22:02] Single-family residential

[3:22:03] tiered water rates.

[3:22:06] Under Prop 218 parts represent

[3:22:07] high volume single family

[3:22:11] residential user and their

[3:22:12] claim was that the high volume

[3:22:12] users were subsidizing lower

[3:22:13] volume tiers.

[3:22:16] The Supreme Court ruled

[3:22:17] the city did not meet its

[3:22:21] burden of proof under Prop 218.

[3:22:22] In MARCH of 2020 to

[3:22:26] the appellate court affirmed

[3:22:26] that decision in JULY 2025 and

[3:22:30] the California Supreme Court

[3:22:31] denied our petition for review.

[3:22:34] In late OCTOBER 2025.

[3:22:35] At this point we have exhausted

[3:22:39] all legal remedies.

[3:22:40] Importantly, the courts did not

[3:22:43] disagree with our use of

[3:22:44] industry standards for

[3:22:45] allocating cost to various

[3:22:48] customer categories.

[3:22:49] What they said is that those

[3:22:53] methodologies do not satisfy

[3:22:54] Prop 218 evidentiary burden

[3:22:58] which effectively requires

[3:22:59] direct proof that every

[3:23:03] allocation exactly corresponds

[3:23:04] to proportional cost of

[3:23:04] service.

[3:23:05] The dissenting appellate judge

[3:23:08] warned that the majority

[3:23:09] opinion exceeds traditional

[3:23:14] engine engineering and utility

[3:23:14] practice standards and could

[3:23:15] make tiered water rates very

[3:23:19] difficult for agencies

[3:23:20] statewide to defend.

[3:23:24] This is becoming a pattern.

[3:23:24] The same attorneys who brought

[3:23:25] Patz previously overturned Otay

[3:23:29] Water District's tiered rate

[3:23:30] structure and are currently

[3:23:34] challenging Wp's tiered rates.

[3:23:34] Based on the court's decision.

[3:23:38] The city is now required to

[3:23:39] modify its rate structure.

[3:23:43] That means moving to a single

[3:23:43] unitary or flat rate for volume

[3:23:48] metric charges along with some

[3:23:48] adjustments to fix monthly

[3:23:49] service charges to reflect

[3:23:53] the new volumetric approach.

[3:23:54] The city will also have to pay

[3:23:56] a $40 million settlement.

[3:24:00] Council previously adopted a

[3:24:01] 14.5% rate increase effective

[3:24:04] JANUARY 1st, 2027.

[3:24:04] It's important to emphasize

[3:24:08] the total revenue public

[3:24:09] utilities collects under these

[3:24:10] adjustments is the same as

[3:24:13] authorized last OCTOBER.

[3:24:14] We are not asking for more

[3:24:14] money.

[3:24:18] We are required to change who

[3:24:18] pays and how much.

[3:24:19] With lower volume users paying

[3:24:23] somewhat more and high volume

[3:24:23] users paying less in order to

[3:24:24] comply with the court's

[3:24:28] findings.

[3:24:28] Next we'll walk through

[3:24:29] the specifics of the proposed

[3:24:33] rate adjustments.

[3:24:34] >> The shift to a unitary rate

[3:24:34] and the expected monthly impact

[3:24:37] on customers.

[3:24:38] This slide depicts

[3:24:38] the transition from our

[3:24:39] previously adopted tier

[3:24:42] structure to the proposed

[3:24:43] unitary rate.

[3:24:47] Under the previously adopted

[3:24:48] JANUARY 1st, 2027 rates single

[3:24:52] family residential customers

[3:24:52] had three tiers with separate

[3:24:53] volumetric rates for

[3:24:57] multifamily commercial,

[3:24:57] industrial and irrigation

[3:24:58] customers.

[3:25:02] Under the proposed unitary rate

[3:25:02] every customer class pays

[3:25:03] the same rate per volume of

[3:25:07] water use and this is in

[3:25:08] compliance with the patch

[3:25:12] litigation on this table.

[3:25:16] These are estimated average

[3:25:17] monthly bill impacts by

[3:25:17] customer category.

[3:25:21] To give a sense of the impact.

[3:25:22] But we do understand that each

[3:25:23] bill and its impact to our

[3:25:26] customers is unique to that

[3:25:27] customer.

[3:25:28] As you will see a single family

[3:25:32] low volume user would see an

[3:25:35] increase of about $5.62 per

[3:25:35] month or 7.1%.

[3:25:40] Conversely, a single family a

[3:25:41] high volume user would see a

[3:25:44] decrease of about $19.52 per

[3:25:48] month or 5.9%.

[3:25:48] Multifamily properties will

[3:25:52] also see a slight decrease of

[3:25:53] 2%.

[3:25:53] And it should be noted that

[3:25:58] this is on the entire ca

[3:25:58] customer and not maybe

[3:25:59] the individual.

[3:25:59] Sorry.

[3:26:02] To be clear the multifamily

[3:26:03] figure reflects the properties

[3:26:07] bill as a whole not the impact

[3:26:07] to each individual tenant.

[3:26:08] In addition irrigation

[3:26:12] customers will also see a

[3:26:12] decrease.

[3:26:16] Now we'll be briefly review our

[3:26:17] planned outreach activities

[3:26:20] from JULY through OCTOBER 2026

[3:26:21] leading up to the public

[3:26:21] hearing.

[3:26:25] State law requires us to mail a

[3:26:26] Proposition 218 notice to all

[3:26:27] affected customers in advance

[3:26:30] of the public hearing.

[3:26:31] The notice will be mailed to

[3:26:33] approximately 286,000 customers

[3:26:34] in late 20th JULY to 2026.

[3:26:39] It will be translated into ten

[3:26:39] different languages to reach

[3:26:40] our full customer base and will

[3:26:43] also be posted on the dedicated

[3:26:44] rate adjustment web page.

[3:26:48] As I just noted, we have

[3:26:49] created a dedicated web page as

[3:26:53] a central source of information

[3:26:53] for customers on this rate

[3:26:54] adjustment.

[3:26:58] The page will be updated as

[3:26:58] each key milestone in

[3:27:03] the outreach process occurs.

[3:27:03] From JULY through OCTOBER we

[3:27:08] are deploying a multi-channel

[3:27:08] approach effort so customers

[3:27:09] understand what is changing and

[3:27:12] why.

[3:27:13] That includes a simplified

[3:27:13] flier, an explainer video

[3:27:17] social media contact in a set

[3:27:18] of frequently asked questions.

[3:27:19] The goal is to reach customers

[3:27:22] through multiple touchpoints.

[3:27:23] Given the scope of this change

[3:27:24] that nearly all rate payers are

[3:27:27] affected.

[3:27:28] To conclude we are requesting

[3:27:31] the Council to accept the 2026

[3:27:35] Stantec Memorandum modifying

[3:27:35] the 2025 water cost of service

[3:27:36] study and set a public hearing

[3:27:40] date to consider approval of

[3:27:41] the transition to the unitary

[3:27:42] rate structure that will comply

[3:27:45] with the outcome of the past

[3:27:46] litigation.

[3:27:46] Thank you and we are available

[3:27:47] for any questions.

[3:27:50] All right.

[3:27:50] Thank you for the work and

[3:27:51] thank you for the presentation

[3:27:52] and we'll now turn it over to

[3:27:54] the office of the rba for

[3:27:55] comments.

[3:27:56] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

[3:27:56] members of the Council.

[3:27:57] Good afternoon.

[3:28:00] My name is Jordan Moore with

[3:28:01] the Office of the rba.

[3:28:01] Our office has been following

[3:28:05] the Patriotic action closely

[3:28:05] and have been in frequent

[3:28:06] communication with public

[3:28:07] utilities regarding the item

[3:28:10] before you today.

[3:28:10] We thank Beauty for keeping us

[3:28:11] informed on their efforts to

[3:28:15] develop a unitary volumetric

[3:28:15] rates that comply with

[3:28:16] the court decision which is

[3:28:20] what is before you today.

[3:28:21] Rates that comply with a court

[3:28:21] order.

[3:28:25] We want to highlight that this

[3:28:25] rate adjustment is not being

[3:28:26] driven by the needs to operate

[3:28:29] the water system which are what

[3:28:29] most cases are based upon but

[3:28:30] rather this is purely about

[3:28:34] adjusting rates to comply with

[3:28:35] current legal requirements.

[3:28:39] Importantly the rates to be

[3:28:40] noticed do not increase

[3:28:41] the overall revenue requirement

[3:28:44] for the water system and will

[3:28:45] not result in Puti collecting

[3:28:46] any more total revenue than

[3:28:50] what they were projecting to

[3:28:50] them than what they were

[3:28:51] projecting to in the most

[3:28:54] recent cost of service study

[3:28:54] and rate case that council

[3:28:55] approved last year.

[3:28:58] To the extent beauty incurs

[3:28:59] additional costs in the near

[3:29:00] future those would have to be

[3:29:04] absorbed in the short term and

[3:29:04] ultimately reflected in a

[3:29:05] future rate case.

[3:29:08] But today's action is simply to

[3:29:09] set a rate case to adopt

[3:29:10] uniform rates that will bring

[3:29:13] in the same total revenue as

[3:29:14] our existing rates which is

[3:29:14] necessary to comply with

[3:29:18] the legal decision.

[3:29:18] To that end, our office

[3:29:19] recommends that Council approve

[3:29:23] the staff recommendation today.

[3:29:24] Thank you and we are available

[3:29:28] for any questions you MAY have

[3:29:28] .

[3:29:28] All right.

[3:29:29] Thank you Jordan.

[3:29:30] We always appreciate the input

[3:29:30] of the aba or the office of

[3:29:32] the aba.

[3:29:33] >> With that city clerk please

[3:29:34] proceed with public comment.

[3:29:34] Thank you.

[3:29:37] Council PRESIDENT I will note

[3:29:38] as I noted this morning that

[3:29:38] there were no organized

[3:29:39] presentations submitted for

[3:29:42] this item or any items this

[3:29:42] afternoon.

[3:29:43] Starting with Michael Schmidt.

[3:29:44] If you can please come up to

[3:29:47] the podium You will have one

[3:29:47] minute after that is allegedly

[3:29:51] Audra and then Blair Beekman.

[3:29:51] >> Hello.

[3:29:52] Good.

[3:29:52] Yes, hello.

[3:29:56] Good afternoon.

[3:29:57] Michael Sherman from District

[3:29:57] four.

[3:30:01] Nice to see you guys.

[3:30:02] I just don't like the fact that

[3:30:06] there are going to be raising

[3:30:06] the water rates for customers

[3:30:11] and even families.

[3:30:12] Um, I don't know what to say

[3:30:15] about it.

[3:30:16] >> It's not cool.

[3:30:16] Thank you.

[3:30:26] Allegedly Audra, you've given

[3:30:26] us one minute.

[3:30:29] >> Yeah, to 18 is quite an

[3:30:30] interesting dichotomy that is

[3:30:34] unique to California where it's

[3:30:35] like, you know, for taxes you

[3:30:35] need a majority to pass it.

[3:30:39] But for things like rate

[3:30:40] increases you need a majority

[3:30:40] protest.

[3:30:44] I mean that allows you guys to

[3:30:45] sit here and increase our rates

[3:30:50] like nobody's business And you

[3:30:51] know the sad thing is is that

[3:30:51] we sell water.

[3:30:52] We sit here and act like we're

[3:30:55] in a drought.

[3:30:56] But I mean if we were I would

[3:30:56] pour out half of my water and

[3:30:59] give it to somebody else.

[3:31:00] So that is proven in your

[3:31:00] tactics.

[3:31:04] And so as far as like following

[3:31:05] the Constitution, this seems I

[3:31:05] mean when this be

[3:31:09] unconstitutional when it's like

[3:31:10] you're going to need over

[3:31:10] 100,000 people to say no, we

[3:31:11] don't want this.

[3:31:15] Nobody's here.

[3:31:16] Outside of your staff Pretty

[3:31:16] much.

[3:31:17] So it's like you don't give

[3:31:20] the people the ability outside

[3:31:21] of your you know, warning them

[3:31:21] kind of.

[3:31:22] But I mean these people don't

[3:31:23] even look in their bills and

[3:31:25] see that kind of stuff.

[3:31:26] So it's extremely sad to see

[3:31:27] and to know that I is also

[3:31:29] going to be taking all of our

[3:31:30] fresh water.

[3:31:30] >> Thank you for that

[3:31:31] concluding comment.

[3:31:46] Blair Beekman Hi we're Beekman

[3:31:46] could public comment.

[3:31:50] It would be sad to think this

[3:31:51] is a backdoor way that grapes

[3:31:52] are going to continue to be

[3:31:56] increased.

[3:31:56] Mm hmm.

[3:31:57] I wish I knew how to better

[3:32:01] address this type of issue.

[3:32:01] Thank you for the presentation.

[3:32:06] I hope the public process for

[3:32:07] the future of the water board

[3:32:07] issues is starting to better

[3:32:08] develop.

[3:32:11] We're all understanding how

[3:32:12] important that can be and

[3:32:13] the important importance of

[3:32:17] the public process overall in

[3:32:17] our local practices.

[3:32:22] Good luck How the public can

[3:32:23] have input and making that

[3:32:28] available to understand this

[3:32:29] issue better and how we move

[3:32:29] forward with it.

[3:32:30] >> Thank you.

[3:32:30] Thank you.

[3:32:33] That does conclude public

[3:32:34] comment here in council

[3:32:34] chambers going to those

[3:32:37] participating remotely and we

[3:32:38] have two speakers in the queue.

[3:32:39] Michael Dyer if you can please

[3:32:39] unmute.

[3:32:42] You'll have one minute.

[3:32:42] >> Please proceed.

[3:32:43] Yes, thank you.

[3:32:43] Michael Dwyer.

[3:32:46] District two.

[3:32:46] I'm confused by

[3:32:47] the presentation especially

[3:32:51] slide number nine and ten on

[3:32:56] slide nine it's presenting that

[3:32:57] the volumetric for the lowest

[3:33:00] single family residential is

[3:33:04] $9.75 going up to 1109 That is

[3:33:05] a 14% increase.

[3:33:10] However on Slide ten all of

[3:33:15] the single family users are

[3:33:16] shown at half or less on

[3:33:16] the percentage.

[3:33:20] So on that one slide you're

[3:33:24] increasing the rate by 14%.

[3:33:24] On the other side it's half of

[3:33:25] that.

[3:33:30] So I'm confused and maybe

[3:33:30] the council is as well.

[3:33:31] >> Thank you.

[3:33:31] Thank you.

[3:33:32] Next is Zoom user if you can

[3:33:39] please the mute.

[3:33:40] >> Well Lake Mead and Lake

[3:33:41] Powell are at all time low man

[3:33:44] The water is running out of our

[3:33:44] system.

[3:33:45] Do not sell any of our water.

[3:33:50] We wait for a few months when

[3:33:50] Phenix is begging for water.

[3:33:55] Now's the time Not to sell any

[3:33:55] water.

[3:33:56] Lake Mead and Lake Powell are

[3:34:00] all time lows.

[3:34:05] That means sell high or or

[3:34:06] we're going to They're going to

[3:34:07] be begging for water.

[3:34:08] Now's not the time to sell

[3:34:12] anything.

[3:34:13] Wait till I have the bag and

[3:34:14] cry and then we'll double.

[3:34:18] We'll have we'll get double

[3:34:18] the money for it if we sell any

[3:34:19] of it.

[3:34:24] But that's the typical game And

[3:34:25] it also open the bathrooms in

[3:34:30] South Beach and come on.

[3:34:31] Well we don't need to save

[3:34:31] water.

[3:34:35] We need to flush some toilets.

[3:34:36] >> Good luck.

[3:34:40] Next is 8700 If you can please

[3:34:46] unmute join.

[3:34:51] A couple of things.

[3:34:52] First of all I don't really

[3:34:56] know this well I didn't go for

[3:34:56] it.

[3:34:57] $40 million settlement to be

[3:34:58] paid by the city.

[3:35:02] Could one of you on the council

[3:35:03] explain that to the public?

[3:35:04] That would be great And this is

[3:35:09] a legal obligation on

[3:35:10] the unitary rate.

[3:35:11] So I'll say this we have equity

[3:35:17] Excuse me That's equality and

[3:35:17] we have equity.

[3:35:20] There are two very different I

[3:35:21] learned that about three years

[3:35:21] ago.

[3:35:22] It looks like this is striving

[3:35:26] for equality of all income

[3:35:27] levels but there's not equity

[3:35:28] involved in it But it's a legal

[3:35:32] obligation So what is one to do

[3:35:33] but to obey the rules of

[3:35:33] the law?

[3:35:39] So best of luck with this and

[3:35:40] of course looking and setting

[3:35:40] the hearing date.

[3:35:41] Thank you.

[3:35:41] Well, thank you, Tony.

[3:35:44] And then Natalie Rashidi is

[3:35:45] currently the last one with her

[3:35:49] Henry's Tony Academy Before you

[3:35:50] just hear me, you sound a

[3:35:55] little far away.

[3:36:01] >> Once again.

[3:36:02] >> But we can't hear.

[3:36:02] We can't hear you.

[3:36:07] Make you out.

[3:36:08] >> Please proceed.

[3:36:08] Okay.

[3:36:09] I just wanted to say I

[3:36:13] registering a neutral position

[3:36:14] on this particular topic.

[3:36:19] I feel like it's probably a

[3:36:20] necessary evil.

[3:36:20] But while we're on

[3:36:25] the conversation as of this

[3:36:25] topic I noticed in one of

[3:36:26] the agenda topics earlier today

[3:36:27] one of the consent items was

[3:36:31] talking about some of

[3:36:32] the chemicals that were to be

[3:36:33] purchased to be put into this

[3:36:33] water.

[3:36:34] I hope that we can have a

[3:36:38] discussion about some of

[3:36:38] the things that we're putting

[3:36:39] into the water for water that

[3:36:40] succeeded And I know that I

[3:36:43] need to get to that for

[3:36:44] different reasons with

[3:36:44] different things.

[3:36:47] But I do also know that in 2011

[3:36:47] we were the last city in one of

[3:36:54] the last major cities in the us

[3:36:55] to Florida on water And I know

[3:36:55] eating our water is not a good

[3:37:00] thing for all kinds of

[3:37:01] independent studies about it.

[3:37:01] So yeah that's because again

[3:37:02] you not only of this what this

[3:37:06] what the consequences of this

[3:37:07] tax would be but also what what

[3:37:11] it entails by putting your time

[3:37:12] has concluded.

[3:37:12] >> Natalie if you can please

[3:37:17] unmute.

[3:37:17] Hi.

[3:37:18] Hi Natalie here That slide was

[3:37:19] confusing.

[3:37:23] I agree with that gentleman.

[3:37:23] I was kind of confused and

[3:37:24] anything I'm going to repeat it

[3:37:29] anything that we do who is to

[3:37:30] benefit the most when we make

[3:37:34] these decisions?

[3:37:35] >> That is what's most

[3:37:35] important to me.

[3:37:36] What are the intentions behind

[3:37:41] the people We do business with

[3:37:42] and how does it benefit our

[3:37:46] city and how does it benefit

[3:37:46] the people?

[3:37:47] >> Thank you.

[3:37:47] Thank you.

[3:37:48] That does conclude public

[3:37:48] comment on this item.

[3:37:49] All right.

[3:37:52] Thank you, City Clerk I'll kick

[3:37:53] things off.

[3:37:58] So I'll start out by thanking

[3:37:59] you, Lisa and the Public

[3:38:00] Utilities Department for

[3:38:00] preparing the updated analysis

[3:38:04] and proposal.

[3:38:05] Thank the city attorney's

[3:38:05] office for the very good fight

[3:38:06] that in the end we didn't

[3:38:10] prevail on.

[3:38:11] But I appreciate the legal work

[3:38:11] that was done to defend

[3:38:12] the city and more importantly

[3:38:16] defend the ratepayers.

[3:38:17] Thank you Jordan on the aba for

[3:38:21] your analysis.

[3:38:22] And as we've heard, unlike past

[3:38:23] rate changes this comes at

[3:38:28] the direction of the courts and

[3:38:29] ties our hands.

[3:38:29] I can't emphasize enough and I

[3:38:30] hope this come across in

[3:38:34] the presentation.

[3:38:35] This was not about pd but it

[3:38:36] was about the courts

[3:38:36] overturning how all water

[3:38:40] districts and jurisdictions set

[3:38:41] water rates.

[3:38:41] And I appreciate that.

[3:38:45] If I could find it real

[3:38:46] quickly.

[3:38:46] The dissenting opinion at

[3:38:52] the appellate level warned that

[3:38:53] the majority opinion exceeded

[3:38:53] traditional engineering utility

[3:38:54] practices and could make tiered

[3:38:57] water rates extremely difficult

[3:38:58] for agencies statewide to

[3:38:58] defend.

[3:39:03] Again, with every jurisdiction

[3:39:03] every water district does.

[3:39:04] The courts decided we've

[3:39:09] settled with the courts.

[3:39:09] We got in their direction.

[3:39:10] I personally remain committed

[3:39:15] to pursuing all options to keep

[3:39:16] water rates and water bills low

[3:39:17] for San Diego And so when you

[3:39:18] use less you should be able to

[3:39:18] pay less.

[3:39:21] Again, the courts thought

[3:39:21] otherwise.

[3:39:22] As for today's item, our action

[3:39:27] is not about adopting water

[3:39:28] rates.

[3:39:28] That's why there's probably

[3:39:33] nobody here to either object or

[3:39:33] protest this.

[3:39:34] This is out of date OCTOBER 6th

[3:39:39] That will be the time for

[3:39:40] people to register their

[3:39:40] protest or objection.

[3:39:45] Our action today is primarily

[3:39:45] to set that hearing date of

[3:39:46] OCTOBER 6th and approve

[3:39:47] the public notice to be mailed

[3:39:51] out.

[3:39:52] So I want to thank pd staff for

[3:39:53] working with my office on

[3:39:58] the public notice to make sure

[3:39:58] it is helpful and clear to

[3:39:59] the public as possible while

[3:40:03] complying with Prop 218 because

[3:40:04] we need to follow that law

[3:40:04] which by the way was adopted by

[3:40:08] a vote of the people and that's

[3:40:09] what we have to live by.

[3:40:15] So with that I will move

[3:40:16] the staff recommendation and

[3:40:16] I'll turn it over to

[3:40:21] Councilmember Eli Rivera.

[3:40:22] The PRESIDENT Can we put

[3:40:23] the slide that had

[3:40:25] the different the impacts with

[3:40:31] the changes portfolio?

[3:41:00] No thank you.

[3:41:05] The next one yeah I appreciate

[3:41:10] the work on this and the effort

[3:41:11] to help us understand this help

[3:41:17] the public understand it.

[3:41:18] I just I think this is really

[3:41:22] an important slide because it

[3:41:23] and some of the public was

[3:41:28] picking up on this This is a

[3:41:29] overtly anti equitable ruling

[3:41:34] that requires us to to then you

[3:41:35] know implement in this

[3:41:35] direction.

[3:41:36] So you know when I think of

[3:41:40] single family low user I'm

[3:41:46] thinking about a single senior

[3:41:47] maybe a couple that is using

[3:41:47] very little water They're being

[3:41:52] very conscious about that.

[3:41:53] And on the other end of

[3:41:59] the spectrum, Pat's a wealthy

[3:42:04] owner of a large home that has

[3:42:05] made choices to continue using

[3:42:05] significant some significant

[3:42:10] amounts of water despite

[3:42:11] the impacts on the environment

[3:42:16] and that wealthy individual now

[3:42:17] receive receiving a reduction

[3:42:22] in their bill while the water

[3:42:23] conscious senior has to pay

[3:42:28] more and that makes me angry.

[3:42:28] I think it should make most

[3:42:35] folks who are trying to save

[3:42:35] money just try to get by And in

[3:42:39] this city and in a state this

[3:42:40] is a state wide ruling to make

[3:42:51] everyone angry So Katherine was

[3:42:52] trying to get to this just to

[3:42:53] make sure we're 110 explicit

[3:42:53] about it.

[3:42:55] >> There's nothing that we

[3:42:56] believe we can do about this

[3:42:57] short of an amendment of

[3:43:01] the California Constitution.

[3:43:02] >> Is that accurate?

[3:43:02] Yes, because we've exhausted

[3:43:03] all legal remedies in this is a

[3:43:08] is a part of the state

[3:43:08] constitution And the only thing

[3:43:09] to change that is a vote of

[3:43:13] the people right.

[3:43:14] So I just I can't emphasize

[3:43:19] this enough While marketing

[3:43:25] behind something like Prop 218

[3:43:31] is it is attractive to too many

[3:43:37] people the implications are

[3:43:37] situations like this where

[3:43:38] we're prohibited from not even

[3:43:44] just from being fair but even

[3:43:45] comment using common sense and

[3:43:46] how we charge folks for

[3:43:49] something like water usage for

[3:43:50] the impacts that users have on

[3:43:55] our system and what that means

[3:43:56] for us as a society.

[3:44:00] So it's just worth remembering

[3:44:01] the Prop 218 is the result of

[3:44:02] anti-government radicals trying

[3:44:06] to drown trying to tie

[3:44:12] the hands of local government

[3:44:13] from providing the services

[3:44:18] that people depend on.

[3:44:19] And this is just I think this

[3:44:19] is really unfortunate and I

[3:44:24] appreciate the dissenting

[3:44:25] opinion here but I very much

[3:44:30] think it requires all of us to

[3:44:31] take a look at just the ways

[3:44:35] that policies that are guys as

[3:44:36] protections for taxpayers are

[3:44:37] really just the opposite and

[3:44:42] make it more difficult for for

[3:44:42] local government to serve

[3:44:43] the public well and that you

[3:44:48] know I'll go off the soap box

[3:44:49] here in a moment the resident

[3:44:50] But you know it's water rates

[3:44:53] It's also the ability to tell

[3:44:54] the public what we'd like to

[3:44:59] dedicate revenue for and taxes

[3:45:00] but that requiring a two thirds

[3:45:00] threshold instead of a simple

[3:45:01] majority the thing that would

[3:45:05] actually provide voters more

[3:45:06] trust and their ability in our

[3:45:07] ability to use the tax dollars

[3:45:13] that we receive and the exact

[3:45:13] way that they'd like them used.

[3:45:14] So all of this comes before us

[3:45:17] with the same radical

[3:45:23] anti-government think tank and

[3:45:23] organization that put us in

[3:45:24] this in this bind here That's

[3:45:29] extremely unfortunate And I

[3:45:30] will second the motion because

[3:45:36] we don't have a choice.

[3:45:36] >> All right.

[3:45:37] Thank you, Council member Ella

[3:45:37] Rivera.

[3:45:41] And again, we do have a motion

[3:45:42] by myself to move the staff

[3:45:43] recommendation, the second by

[3:45:43] council member Eli Rivera.

[3:45:44] We'll go next to Councilmember

[3:45:47] Bond.

[3:45:47] Woolverton Thank you very much.

[3:45:48] Thank you for the presentation

[3:45:48] on this.

[3:45:53] I have some questions as well

[3:45:54] and I'll have comments on

[3:45:55] the court decision which is not

[3:45:59] the water department's Civil

[3:46:00] the two slide slides nine and

[3:46:05] ten that some of our commenters

[3:46:06] asked about is it 14% and it's

[3:46:06] 7%?

[3:46:07] Can you explain the difference?

[3:46:10] Yes.

[3:46:11] Slide nine only focus on

[3:46:12] the volumetric charges which is

[3:46:12] only one component of

[3:46:16] everybody's bill because that

[3:46:16] is what is changing

[3:46:17] significantly in things like

[3:46:18] ten includes both volumetric

[3:46:22] and fixed charges.

[3:46:23] So that is why there's a

[3:46:24] difference.

[3:46:24] So it's kind of reduced down

[3:46:25] because there's not that many

[3:46:28] changes happening on it.

[3:46:29] The Prop 218 notice gives all

[3:46:30] these details by both fixed and

[3:46:35] volumetric rates.

[3:46:36] Okay.

[3:46:36] Yeah hopefully that explained

[3:46:37] it for the court.

[3:46:40] It is very complicated but

[3:46:41] the water rate is not the only

[3:46:41] portion of bill so that's why

[3:46:42] it's not impacting it in

[3:46:46] the same way.

[3:46:47] I also have a question about

[3:46:50] could you bring up slide 8 or 9

[3:46:56] or 10 to 1 please?

[3:46:56] Thank you.

[3:47:03] So in the population the class

[3:47:03] that was certified was all

[3:47:09] single family homeowners or all

[3:47:10] single family users single

[3:47:15] family residential customers

[3:47:15] have the exact wording And so

[3:47:21] why are we now lumping in those

[3:47:22] rates with multifamily and

[3:47:22] urban customers Because they

[3:47:26] weren't part of the class.

[3:47:27] Yes, I'll talk about that and

[3:47:28] then the attorneys can jump in

[3:47:28] as needed.

[3:47:33] The court made a very broad

[3:47:33] discussion specifically as it

[3:47:34] relates to something called a

[3:47:35] peaking factor or a demand

[3:47:38] factor.

[3:47:39] So basically this looks at how

[3:47:40] customers deviate from

[3:47:40] the average.

[3:47:45] So if you have a large swing

[3:47:45] from your most extreme users to

[3:47:46] the average, you have a high

[3:47:47] peaking factor.

[3:47:51] They specifically said unless

[3:47:52] you had really clear data on

[3:47:52] peaking factors like at the as

[3:47:53] we've described in briefings

[3:47:57] like hour by hour that you

[3:47:58] didn't have enough to meet

[3:47:58] proposition to 18 factors that

[3:48:03] was very specific by the court

[3:48:04] and saying that that was not a

[3:48:07] rational usage under 218

[3:48:08] because those factors were used

[3:48:09] to differentiate between

[3:48:13] classes like single family

[3:48:13] residence, multifamily and

[3:48:14] irrigation in order to be fully

[3:48:19] compliant with the ruling we

[3:48:20] needed to remove the peaking

[3:48:21] factors from from all customer

[3:48:25] classes And then again

[3:48:25] the attorneys can step in on

[3:48:31] that specifics I echo Adam's

[3:48:31] statements.

[3:48:32] >> It really is that they

[3:48:36] attacked our methodology and so

[3:48:37] we can't just adjust it in

[3:48:38] the single family residential

[3:48:38] class because it also

[3:48:43] implicates the other classes as

[3:48:43] well.

[3:48:44] So if we adjust it we have to

[3:48:48] adjust it across the board And

[3:48:49] if not I think that would

[3:48:50] subject us to another challenge

[3:48:51] to those rates based on

[3:48:58] the decision.

[3:48:58] >> Okay.

[3:48:59] Is there a different way we

[3:49:03] could in irrigation customers I

[3:49:04] assume watering lawns, golf

[3:49:05] courses, things like that I

[3:49:05] mean that's completely

[3:49:10] different Use than a single

[3:49:11] family home that's using it to

[3:49:11] wash their dishes and take a

[3:49:16] shower So in order to comply

[3:49:16] this was why we made

[3:49:17] the decision to go to unitary

[3:49:22] right in order to comply we

[3:49:22] would need two sets of data

[3:49:23] points on the customer site.

[3:49:24] We would need to know their

[3:49:27] usage every single user every

[3:49:28] single minute of every single

[3:49:29] day And then on our side we

[3:49:33] would need to know expenses and

[3:49:34] when we incur those expenses at

[3:49:39] each point of the day and then

[3:49:40] we would have to allocate cost

[3:49:41] between those two different

[3:49:41] sites Essentially the only

[3:49:45] thing we probably come up with

[3:49:46] is a 286,000 customer rate case

[3:49:51] because we'd have to do rates

[3:49:51] by every single person.

[3:49:52] There was no way we could

[3:49:53] identify it in regards to

[3:49:57] meeting the court's level of

[3:49:58] proof which is why

[3:49:58] the dissenting judge says

[3:49:59] you're making it impossible

[3:50:05] across the state.

[3:50:13] Okay.

[3:50:13] >> And today we're just we're

[3:50:14] just setting the date for

[3:50:15] the hearing So I could still

[3:50:19] argue my points on this at

[3:50:19] the hearing.

[3:50:19] Okay.

[3:50:20] Thank you.

[3:50:20] You can take the slide down.

[3:50:21] All right.

[3:50:24] Because I understand your

[3:50:25] argument and I'm trying to

[3:50:30] comply but I think I'd like to

[3:50:31] dig into that a little more

[3:50:32] because it just seems so unfair

[3:50:36] to charge the senior citizen

[3:50:37] who's using a little bit of

[3:50:38] water at the same rate as

[3:50:42] the golf course irrigator.

[3:50:43] There's completely different

[3:50:43] customers.

[3:50:48] So and because the Court in

[3:50:49] order to do that that's where

[3:50:54] I'm a little uneasy about it

[3:50:55] But given that we are being

[3:50:55] forced to do this by the court

[3:51:00] I will support the item today.

[3:51:01] I don't know if I will support

[3:51:02] in OCTOBER the rate I don't

[3:51:02] think I quite agree with you.

[3:51:06] I will have time to dig into

[3:51:06] that.

[3:51:07] I do understand we do have to

[3:51:08] notice the hearing though to

[3:51:14] comply with the court order and

[3:51:15] I don't think any of the judges

[3:51:16] are listening to this but maybe

[3:51:17] they are or maybe their court

[3:51:17] folks are.

[3:51:21] >> But the Pat versus City of

[3:51:21] Claims decision undermines one

[3:51:22] of the most effective tools

[3:51:26] that cities have to encourage

[3:51:27] water conservation which is

[3:51:31] pricing that rewards people who

[3:51:32] use less water And by striking

[3:51:37] down our tiered water rates,

[3:51:38] the court's decision makes it

[3:51:39] so much harder for cities

[3:51:39] because this decision applies

[3:51:44] to all cities in California.

[3:51:45] This is not just a San Diego

[3:51:45] issue.

[3:51:46] Other cities were facing

[3:51:46] litigation too.

[3:51:49] So now none of us can use

[3:51:50] pricing to incentivize

[3:51:54] conservation.

[3:51:55] So instead of allowing us to

[3:52:00] allow lower volume users to

[3:52:01] benefit from lower rates, we're

[3:52:01] being forced to do a single

[3:52:05] tiered pricing structure for

[3:52:06] everybody no matter how much

[3:52:06] they use.

[3:52:11] And this is so backwards.

[3:52:12] You know the cost of living in

[3:52:12] California is already

[3:52:17] incredibly high and we

[3:52:17] shouldn't be charging customers

[3:52:22] the same rate as high use

[3:52:23] customers And if we're serious

[3:52:23] about protecting our water

[3:52:27] resources and lowering costs

[3:52:28] for our residents, local

[3:52:28] governments should have

[3:52:29] the flexibility to set tiered

[3:52:30] water rates to incentivize

[3:52:33] people to use less water.

[3:52:34] But since the California Court

[3:52:38] of Appeals and the Supreme

[3:52:39] Court have interpreted Prop 218

[3:52:39] differently and disagree with

[3:52:43] every city in California, we

[3:52:44] now have to do this.

[3:52:46] And I just think it's

[3:52:52] completely unfair and wrong.

[3:52:53] >> So I mean we usually set our

[3:52:57] our lobbying goals at

[3:52:58] the beginning of the year.

[3:52:59] But I would encourage us to ask

[3:53:03] our Sacramento lobbying firms

[3:53:03] to start talking about this.

[3:53:09] I mean maybe Prop 218 is a

[3:53:10] constitutional amendment to

[3:53:10] the voters of California to

[3:53:13] have to vote on it.

[3:53:14] But there's also lots of

[3:53:15] interpretation to be had and

[3:53:15] possibly the state of

[3:53:19] California legislature could

[3:53:20] write a law to help conserve

[3:53:21] water again in the state.

[3:53:25] So just I'll leave it up to

[3:53:25] them.

[3:53:27] My last question is about

[3:53:28] the $40 million settlement and

[3:53:29] how that's going to work

[3:53:33] because at the end of the day

[3:53:34] that just gets built in to

[3:53:34] the rate increases, right?

[3:53:35] Correct.

[3:53:39] At this point in time even

[3:53:39] though we are we are needing to

[3:53:40] do a $40 million settlement

[3:53:43] which is in addition to what we

[3:53:44] previously identified, we

[3:53:44] decided not to ask for

[3:53:48] additional increases.

[3:53:49] We are going to have to take

[3:53:50] some potential impacts on our

[3:53:54] code to offset that increase

[3:53:54] because at this point in time

[3:53:55] we're not asking for anything

[3:53:58] Obviously will recover that

[3:53:59] when we come forward with

[3:54:00] the next rate setting.

[3:54:00] I do not have the details

[3:54:04] specifically on the cip

[3:54:05] projects that are being

[3:54:05] deferred.

[3:54:06] I've asked the team to go and

[3:54:06] do that detail because we need

[3:54:09] to have we just entered

[3:54:10] the fiscal year 26.

[3:54:10] We want to have updated

[3:54:14] information we'll have that way

[3:54:14] in advance of the OCTOBER

[3:54:15] hearing and the $40 million is

[3:54:19] refunding property owners who

[3:54:20] use more water and we're

[3:54:24] charged a higher rate.

[3:54:24] It's three components.

[3:54:28] It obviously pays for

[3:54:29] the plaintiffs attorneys and

[3:54:34] then also provides refunds for

[3:54:34] the impacted customers.

[3:54:34] Yes.

[3:54:35] Okay.

[3:54:39] And the court is in line with

[3:54:40] all of this and that is still

[3:54:40] subject to being going forward

[3:54:44] before the courts It is

[3:54:44] expected this fall.

[3:54:45] Okay.

[3:54:45] So we have to authorize it and

[3:54:46] then the court will review it.

[3:54:46] >> Okay.

[3:54:48] Got it.

[3:54:54] Okay.

[3:54:55] Well thank you for the work on

[3:54:55] this.

[3:54:55] Again, I will reserve more

[3:54:58] questions about the actual

[3:54:59] dollar amount of the rate but

[3:55:00] since we are being forced by

[3:55:04] the California courts to set a

[3:55:04] single rate that's why we have

[3:55:05] to have this hearing and our

[3:55:09] hands are tied and I will I'll

[3:55:10] vote to set the hearing.

[3:55:10] Thank you.

[3:55:11] All right.

[3:55:11] Thank you.

[3:55:13] Council member of I'm Wolpert

[3:55:14] we'll go next to council member

[3:55:21] Foster thank you thank you for

[3:55:26] the presentation um this is

[3:55:31] quite concerning for me in just

[3:55:35] listening to public comment and

[3:55:35] I appreciate the technical

[3:55:40] approach in this but I think in

[3:55:40] listening to the public comment

[3:55:41] I think there's several other

[3:55:42] questions that I think are

[3:55:44] relevant to this discussion And

[3:55:49] as we talk about impact based

[3:55:49] on the way it's presented, I

[3:55:50] don't think folks can truly

[3:55:53] understand exactly what's

[3:55:54] taking place.

[3:55:55] And I just want to look at this

[3:55:58] from the standpoint of what we

[3:55:59] just went through with trash,

[3:55:59] right?

[3:56:00] District four was hit pretty

[3:56:04] hard with trash because of our

[3:56:08] single family to multifamily

[3:56:08] ratio.

[3:56:12] We were hit hard And I'm

[3:56:13] assuming if you can answer

[3:56:17] this, is this the same type of

[3:56:18] impact that we are seeing kind

[3:56:22] of in the same relation of

[3:56:26] trash where District four one

[3:56:26] of the communities that has

[3:56:30] historically been resource

[3:56:35] disinvested that we are going

[3:56:36] to see the major impact of this

[3:56:36] result.

[3:56:39] Is that fair?

[3:56:39] Have we looked at that?

[3:56:44] Do we understand that?

[3:56:45] So it's a little bit different

[3:56:45] in regards to being a single

[3:56:49] family versus multifamily

[3:56:49] because within the single

[3:56:50] family are the high end users.

[3:56:53] So if we look at it in regards

[3:56:54] to where high and high volume

[3:56:58] users are, yes it impacts it's

[3:56:59] benefiting the high volume

[3:57:03] users and it is impacting

[3:57:04] greatly the lower volume users.

[3:57:08] And where do we typically find

[3:57:09] our large smaller lots like our

[3:57:13] large volume users?

[3:57:13] >> Yeah.

[3:57:14] Where do we find those?

[3:57:18] I think everybody has a

[3:57:18] everybody has I do not have

[3:57:19] the specific okay well let's

[3:57:20] just take whoever filed

[3:57:22] the lawsuit whoever did this.

[3:57:23] Where are they at?

[3:57:27] Yes, they are in Council

[3:57:28] district two there in two.

[3:57:32] >> But what what area District

[3:57:32] two is spread out.

[3:57:33] Right.

[3:57:33] How big is their lot?

[3:57:35] How big is their home?

[3:57:40] >> What is it?

[3:57:40] >> Yes.

[3:57:41] So it is a larger lot compared

[3:57:45] to in the average size.

[3:57:45] Yes.

[3:57:49] What does that mean 20,000ft?

[3:57:52] What is it Do we know ten

[3:57:55] The one thing I would would add

[3:57:56] Councilmember one of the key

[3:57:56] things that came up as we were

[3:58:00] going through this process it

[3:58:01] doesn't matter how people are

[3:58:01] using the water, we have to

[3:58:05] look at what that how much

[3:58:05] water they're using.

[3:58:06] So if they choose to leave

[3:58:08] their water running on their

[3:58:09] faucet 20 473 65 or if they

[3:58:13] choose to use it outdoor for

[3:58:13] irrigation we can't tell and

[3:58:14] it's not part of our thing And

[3:58:15] the courts have said that we

[3:58:18] can't differentiate between

[3:58:18] them.

[3:58:19] We can differentiate between

[3:58:23] how much people use versus how

[3:58:24] much it costs us to do that.

[3:58:24] And so while your questions are

[3:58:27] very valid about how people are

[3:58:28] using their water, it's not

[3:58:29] something under 218 that we can

[3:58:33] consider We can consider how

[3:58:33] much it costs to deliver a unit

[3:58:34] of water to a customer at their

[3:58:34] parcel.

[3:58:38] I'm not asking you what to

[3:58:38] consider for 218.

[3:58:42] I'm asking for the relevant

[3:58:43] information on the impacts of

[3:58:47] what we are experiencing today

[3:58:48] with this item.

[3:58:52] I think that if I understand

[3:58:53] public comment and what was

[3:58:54] being asked, I think that's

[3:58:57] what's being asked right And

[3:58:58] that's where I think we missed

[3:59:01] the mark when we talk about

[3:59:02] communication because I'm very

[3:59:04] concerned on the communication

[3:59:09] side of this.

[3:59:10] Councilmember if I MAY, would

[3:59:11] it be helpful to you if we

[3:59:14] provided a breakdown by

[3:59:15] the council district office

[3:59:19] like typical users and high

[3:59:20] users Was that to the kind of

[3:59:21] information I think that would

[3:59:21] be helpful not only for this

[3:59:24] council but for the public

[3:59:25] because I would like to think

[3:59:28] if we are truly following to 18

[3:59:29] they have a decision to make.

[3:59:30] There's a way that they need to

[3:59:33] respond.

[3:59:34] Right.

[3:59:34] And then I'm going to ask

[3:59:35] the city attorney this is

[3:59:37] litigation We're going through

[3:59:38] prior to 18.

[3:59:42] So what happens if the public

[3:59:42] responds and says no?

[3:59:46] Where does that leave us since

[3:59:51] we have to follow 218 we will

[3:59:52] be happy to give you get get

[3:59:52] that information well in

[3:59:56] advance of before we come back

[3:59:57] to you for consideration, what

[3:59:57] happens if this is not

[3:59:58] approved?

[4:00:01] I think it was your other

[4:00:01] question.

[4:00:04] My question is we are following

[4:00:04] 8 to 18 process The way that

[4:00:10] process works And I don't know

[4:00:10] if the public truly understands

[4:00:13] this The way to 18 works this

[4:00:14] is where they truly have an

[4:00:18] opportunity to take things away

[4:00:18] from the council If they

[4:00:23] respond and there's enough

[4:00:24] protest that come in it's my

[4:00:27] understanding they take it out

[4:00:28] of our hands, right?

[4:00:29] So this is one time where I

[4:00:32] truly feel that the public is

[4:00:37] truly the power is in their

[4:00:37] hands.

[4:00:38] What happens if they come back

[4:00:42] in and we get the proper

[4:00:42] threshold from the public?

[4:00:47] This is no you can't even have

[4:00:47] the public hearing that would

[4:00:48] happen.

[4:00:51] >> That would be what it is.

[4:00:52] You can't even vote on it if

[4:00:53] enough protests are received

[4:00:56] And what happens in regards to

[4:00:57] what got us here

[4:01:01] the litigation, the change in

[4:01:02] rates, what happens in the risk

[4:01:07] is in regard yes or no.

[4:01:08] >> That's what I'm trying to

[4:01:10] find out.

[4:01:11] That's why I say what how what

[4:01:12] and how we communicate is very,

[4:01:15] very important.

[4:01:16] That's why I'm asking this

[4:01:20] question What happens?

[4:01:21] Councilmember Foster I don't

[4:01:25] think that's a tested area of

[4:01:26] the law where a court has

[4:01:27] ordered you to change your

[4:01:30] rates to unitary and then there

[4:01:31] were enough protests from

[4:01:32] the public to to stop that

[4:01:34] change.

[4:01:35] I think we could still run

[4:01:36] the risk of being in contempt

[4:01:39] of court for not complying but

[4:01:40] we would offer that as a

[4:01:41] defense of attempted to comply

[4:01:44] But we were stopped But it's

[4:01:44] untested.

[4:01:45] We probably wouldn't know how

[4:01:53] that would result but we still

[4:01:54] have to go through this 218

[4:01:57] process.

[4:01:57] Correct?

[4:01:58] And the courts indicated that

[4:02:02] and understand that wasn't part

[4:02:02] of this discussion.

[4:02:07] >> Yes, we're currently under a

[4:02:07] court order to comply with

[4:02:08] imposing unitary rates.

[4:02:12] We have stipulated to the date

[4:02:13] of JANUARY.

[4:02:13] >> That's not that's not my

[4:02:14] question.

[4:02:16] Are they understand to 18 in

[4:02:17] the process And they again when

[4:02:19] we talk about what's tested and

[4:02:24] what's not tested, that's

[4:02:25] probably up for debate to be

[4:02:25] honest.

[4:02:28] I'll take that as a no.

[4:02:29] Okay.

[4:02:34] Um I'm not going to vote

[4:02:34] affirmative for this.

[4:02:38] I think this is um unfortunate.

[4:02:42] Um I think it speaks to when I

[4:02:43] say every day our system is

[4:02:47] flawed goes back to when I say

[4:02:48] certain things happen.

[4:02:51] It's intentional.

[4:02:52] There's a reason why district

[4:02:57] four is under resourced.

[4:02:57] It's a system issue.

[4:02:58] I mean, quite honestly, I'm

[4:03:01] disgusted.

[4:03:06] Um, Chris um, Kota, I do think

[4:03:07] this comes down to um,

[4:03:10] communication and how we

[4:03:11] communicate to the public and I

[4:03:15] think this is a good

[4:03:15] opportunity to let the public

[4:03:16] know they have more power than

[4:03:19] we do is we release these 218

[4:03:20] documents and I don't think

[4:03:24] they truly, truly understand

[4:03:25] and how significant that is

[4:03:30] because this is this is

[4:03:34] unacceptable And yet we have

[4:03:40] someone from a what do you

[4:03:40] what's the term we use an elite

[4:03:41] And I don't know I don't even

[4:03:43] know the term wealthy wealthy.

[4:03:47] There you go.

[4:03:48] Who who who is utilizing

[4:03:52] the system to their advantage

[4:03:53] And I think that's a very, very

[4:03:57] unfortunate and I really don't

[4:04:02] like the fact that we have to

[4:04:03] sit here and say well that's

[4:04:07] what the courts told us to do.

[4:04:08] Um but okay I'll leave that

[4:04:11] there.

[4:04:12] Council PRESIDENT Thank you and

[4:04:13] thank you for the work on this

[4:04:16] but I'm really interested to

[4:04:16] see what the communication plan

[4:04:17] is.

[4:04:21] I hope you put your 218 package

[4:04:21] together Very well.

[4:04:22] Move that protest form to

[4:04:25] the front not the back buried

[4:04:26] in the back.

[4:04:27] It should be in a different

[4:04:30] color, a different hot pink

[4:04:30] whatever you want to do it in

[4:04:34] So it is highly visible and

[4:04:35] folks return those um because

[4:04:39] this is this is just ridiculous

[4:04:40] So thank you.

[4:04:40] All right Thank you

[4:04:41] Councilmember Foster will go

[4:04:44] next to council member Campbell

[4:04:45] thank you thank you for

[4:04:49] the comments of my colleagues

[4:04:50] First of all I'd just like to

[4:04:51] say that one other thing we can

[4:04:55] do is always remember that we

[4:04:56] need to take into account who

[4:04:59] in the heck are we voting for

[4:05:04] for judges There are two judges

[4:05:08] that ruled against common sense

[4:05:08] .

[4:05:09] >> They didn't care about

[4:05:09] the volume of water used.

[4:05:13] They only cared about the rate

[4:05:17] being the same no matter what

[4:05:18] volume used it.

[4:05:23] It's crazy Big commercial users

[4:05:23] of water use more volume and

[4:05:28] you pay more than single family

[4:05:33] homes or homes that house

[4:05:33] people in an apartment.

[4:05:38] It's just people need to get a

[4:05:38] break were overcharges on just

[4:05:42] about everything Anyway I think

[4:05:43] that we need to find out who

[4:05:47] are these two judges who voted

[4:05:47] in the majority on this Of

[4:05:48] the three judges in

[4:05:52] the appellate court and take

[4:05:52] them to task and only

[4:05:56] the voters can do that And then

[4:05:57] we also have recall as you

[4:05:58] know, in this democracy what

[4:06:02] were some what's left of it.

[4:06:03] So that's what we need to do.

[4:06:06] We need to do what you suggest,

[4:06:11] Councilmember Foster We need to

[4:06:11] talk to the public about using

[4:06:16] common sense in judicial

[4:06:17] matters And we need to make

[4:06:21] sure that the judges we elect

[4:06:22] have common sense and don't get

[4:06:25] so tied up in the minutia of

[4:06:26] every little dot and cross t in

[4:06:30] a in a amendment to the state

[4:06:31] constitution that they lose

[4:06:35] sight of the real question

[4:06:36] which they obviously did in

[4:06:39] this case.

[4:06:40] Obviously if you own a golf

[4:06:41] course and you're sprinkling it

[4:06:45] constantly to keep it green

[4:06:46] you're using more volume than

[4:06:49] the families use.

[4:06:50] So there should be a difference

[4:06:54] And the for some reason this

[4:06:58] court did not see that And

[4:06:59] the Supreme Court refused to

[4:07:00] even take the case.

[4:07:00] Isn't that correct?

[4:07:04] They didn't even take up

[4:07:04] the case.

[4:07:05] >> We have to ask our Supreme

[4:07:08] Court judges what is wrong with

[4:07:09] you that you didn't take this

[4:07:09] up?

[4:07:10] Obviously on the face of it it

[4:07:13] makes absolutely no sense.

[4:07:14] Do you want people to to quit

[4:07:19] using too much water so that we

[4:07:19] can have enough when drought

[4:07:23] occurs or what?

[4:07:24] You know?

[4:07:25] So anyway I think is just I

[4:07:28] agree with all my colleagues

[4:07:29] This is not and I would like to

[4:07:34] vote today in order to bring it

[4:07:34] to the public's attention So

[4:07:37] they will vote OCTOBER 6th And

[4:07:42] in the meantime we can find out

[4:07:42] who exactly are those two

[4:07:45] judges and we can find out

[4:07:46] who's the third one and support

[4:07:47] them because they were the only

[4:07:50] one that made sense.

[4:07:51] And we can also ask our Supreme

[4:07:55] Court justices to reconsider.

[4:07:56] I don't know if that's legal or

[4:07:56] not.

[4:07:57] Can we ask Supreme Court to

[4:08:00] reconsider an appeal?

[4:08:05] Not at this time.

[4:08:06] >> So it looks like we're stuck

[4:08:09] with the vote The recall and

[4:08:10] the public vote on OCTOBER 6th.

[4:08:14] >> Yes or no on the rates.

[4:08:19] So I, I really appreciate

[4:08:20] everything you said And we're

[4:08:22] all in the same terrible boat.

[4:08:27] But thank you so much.

[4:08:28] We'll go over to council member

[4:08:33] Eli Rivera.

[4:08:34] Thank you Class PRESIDENT I

[4:08:34] forgot to ask this earlier but

[4:08:38] I'm almost glad I did it

[4:08:38] because my colleagues had a

[4:08:39] chance to ask the questions

[4:08:40] that they've asked to make

[4:08:42] the points that they made.

[4:08:43] This makes non rate revenue

[4:08:46] that much more important since

[4:08:47] we can't use the rates

[4:08:55] themselves to reward or even

[4:08:56] account for the better behavior

[4:09:01] of folks non rate revenue

[4:09:05] becomes a tool that we can use

[4:09:06] to keep that to keep costs down

[4:09:10] but to help people help

[4:09:15] mitigate the impacts of higher

[4:09:15] rates for folks.

[4:09:16] We had a conversation about

[4:09:20] getting to work in a much more

[4:09:20] assertive way last fall about

[4:09:24] on the utilization of public

[4:09:29] utilities assets.

[4:09:29] Can you give us an update on

[4:09:30] where that stands and

[4:09:34] the progress being made So that

[4:09:34] if these rates do go into

[4:09:38] effect we'll be able to utilize

[4:09:39] non rate revenue for folks?

[4:09:40] >> Yes, and we do agree in

[4:09:44] regards to working towards on

[4:09:45] rate revenue to offset

[4:09:48] the impact on our rate payers

[4:09:53] as we committed last fall.

[4:09:54] We have made progress on moving

[4:09:56] forward in regards to 17 active

[4:09:57] negotiations as it relates to

[4:09:58] our leases and updating those

[4:09:58] leases.

[4:10:02] So we can get additional

[4:10:02] revenue in that way.

[4:10:03] We've had conversations in

[4:10:06] regards to opportunities not

[4:10:07] only with community power but

[4:10:08] others so that way we can see

[4:10:08] they're still developing their

[4:10:11] information So we're working

[4:10:11] towards that.

[4:10:12] In addition we're reviewing all

[4:10:16] of our assets as we've talked

[4:10:16] about how close they are to

[4:10:17] the electric grid

[4:10:17] infrastructure.

[4:10:21] Our existing power purchase

[4:10:21] agreements specifically at

[4:10:22] Alvarado and Otay water

[4:10:26] treatment plants to see if we

[4:10:26] can make those get better deals

[4:10:30] on those and then all other

[4:10:30] facilities as it relates to So

[4:10:31] we are moving all of those

[4:10:35] around to make progress in

[4:10:35] regards to it because we do

[4:10:36] agree with you in regards to

[4:10:40] identifying opportunities and

[4:10:40] increasing non rate revenue.

[4:10:41] >> Okay.

[4:10:41] I appreciate that and I think

[4:10:44] that's an important that

[4:10:45] information would be important

[4:10:49] to come forward as we are faced

[4:10:53] with additional decisions as

[4:10:57] with water rates, the 17 leases

[4:10:58] that are being worked on if I

[4:11:03] recall and I'm going off memory

[4:11:06] it was somewhere in the 80s I

[4:11:09] believe that we're in holdover

[4:11:10] status of about 110 leases that

[4:11:14] he has yet we have about 60

[4:11:15] that are in So we're working at

[4:11:15] that through 17 of those And

[4:11:16] that's just we are constrained

[4:11:19] by resources.

[4:11:20] We are also identifying if we

[4:11:20] should ask for additional

[4:11:21] resources next budget so that

[4:11:24] way we can also do more work.

[4:11:25] >> Yeah but those resources I

[4:11:28] mean that's a cost recoverable

[4:11:29] resource, right?

[4:11:33] It's very much as an investment

[4:11:34] ,correct.

[4:11:34] And my understanding is that

[4:11:39] our partners at mta have been

[4:11:43] willing to to see some of this

[4:11:44] work contracted out so that we

[4:11:44] can play catch up.

[4:11:48] Yeah, we are identifying

[4:11:48] whichever way whether or not

[4:11:49] that's in-house or even outside

[4:11:53] consultants if it's on a

[4:11:54] temporary Yes, all of that.

[4:11:54] >> Okay, great.

[4:11:55] I appreciate that.

[4:11:57] And then the work with

[4:11:58] committee power and the power

[4:11:59] purchase agreement I'm glad to

[4:12:02] hear that that is happening as

[4:12:02] well.

[4:12:03] Every dollar saved on that end

[4:12:07] is a dollar that we don't have

[4:12:08] to pass along and cost.

[4:12:09] So I'm hitting this from both

[4:12:12] directions but the cost savings

[4:12:17] perspective and revenue side of

[4:12:17] things non rate revenue side of

[4:12:21] things super important for

[4:12:22] again we can't lower rates

[4:12:23] necessarily in an equitable

[4:12:23] way.

[4:12:27] We could do it across the board

[4:12:28] but we can also utilize those

[4:12:31] sort of those revenues for for

[4:12:32] programs to serve lower income

[4:12:36] residents to serve seniors,

[4:12:37] people who would be most

[4:12:37] negatively impacted by

[4:12:41] the changes being imposed upon

[4:12:41] us by the courts.

[4:12:42] >> Correct.

[4:12:42] And we're looking at all all

[4:12:43] avenues.

[4:12:43] Yes.

[4:12:43] All right.

[4:12:46] Thank you for that.

[4:12:47] Thank you.

[4:12:47] All right.

[4:12:47] Thank you.

[4:12:48] Councilmember Ella Rivera.

[4:12:50] We'll go next to council member

[4:12:51] Whitburn.

[4:12:51] >> Thank you.

[4:12:51] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:12:52] This is frustrating.

[4:12:55] We've been fighting for lower

[4:12:55] rates because so many people

[4:13:00] are struggling and now we have

[4:13:01] a court ruling that interferes

[4:13:04] with those efforts In addition

[4:13:09] to the court ordered rate

[4:13:09] impacts.

[4:13:13] There is also the $40 million

[4:13:14] in refunds that have been

[4:13:18] ordered.

[4:13:19] But I do want to make it clear

[4:13:20] that that will not come out of

[4:13:24] the general fund That will be

[4:13:24] entirely within the water

[4:13:29] utility fund, correct?

[4:13:29] >> It is only from the water

[4:13:30] utility fund.

[4:13:33] So that will not impact

[4:13:34] homelessness funding.

[4:13:38] It will not impact public

[4:13:38] safety funding.

[4:13:39] It will not impact street

[4:13:43] paving.

[4:13:43] It will all have to be dealt

[4:13:48] with within the finances of

[4:13:49] the public utilities department

[4:13:52] And in the short term you're

[4:13:53] saying it will result in

[4:13:57] deferred capital improvement

[4:13:57] projects?

[4:13:58] >> Yeah, we are currently

[4:14:00] looking at we have identified a

[4:14:01] potentially about $30 million

[4:14:02] that we'll have to offset but

[4:14:06] we are trying to identify

[4:14:07] whether or not we really truly

[4:14:07] have to defer that or if

[4:14:08] there's any other places for

[4:14:11] savings because we're trying to

[4:14:12] do our due diligence in regards

[4:14:12] to that.

[4:14:13] We won't have that information

[4:14:16] completely finalized until a

[4:14:16] little bit later in the summer.

[4:14:17] >> Okay.

[4:14:17] I appreciate that.

[4:14:20] My hope would be that it

[4:14:21] doesn't hit rates so and I

[4:14:22] appreciate your attentiveness

[4:14:22] to that.

[4:14:25] We will not be asking for it to

[4:14:26] be increasing this revenue

[4:14:26] requirement right now.

[4:14:30] So what's going through on 2027

[4:14:31] is exactly what was previously

[4:14:31] adopted by Council.

[4:14:32] >> Thank you.

[4:14:34] Thank you.

[4:14:35] >> Council PRESIDENT.

[4:14:35] All right.

[4:14:36] Thank you.

[4:14:39] Council member Whitburn.

[4:14:39] A lot of good questions, a lot

[4:14:40] of trying to really work

[4:14:45] through this I think by some of

[4:14:45] the comments of my client, my

[4:14:50] clients I my clients,

[4:14:51] the consultant that comes back

[4:14:55] on I would urge you to think

[4:14:55] very carefully when you look at

[4:14:58] the cip and which projects you

[4:14:59] opt to defer.

[4:14:59] I know you were deferring some

[4:15:03] already to keep the rates that

[4:15:03] we previously approved but

[4:15:04] think about it district by

[4:15:08] district would be my suggestion

[4:15:12] going forward the engineer

[4:15:13] wants to come out me and do a

[4:15:14] whole different explanation but

[4:15:17] I don't think anybody wants to

[4:15:17] hear it from me so I'm not

[4:15:22] going to go there But I think

[4:15:23] you heard there's unanimity

[4:15:26] across the council that no

[4:15:27] one's happy with this but court

[4:15:28] order is a court order.

[4:15:31] So with that we have a motion

[4:15:32] by myself to move the staff

[4:15:33] recommendation a second by

[4:15:33] council member Eli Rivera

[4:15:36] Please call the roll.

[4:15:37] I started the voting system.

[4:15:45] Please cast your vote That

[4:15:50] passes 7 to 1 with

[4:15:51] Councilmember Foster voting no

[4:15:52] and Councilmember Kemp you

[4:15:52] absent.

[4:15:52] Thank you.

[4:15:54] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:15:55] All right.

[4:15:55] Thank you.

[4:16:00] City Clerk All right.

[4:16:00] With that the City Clerk Please

[4:16:04] introduce items as final five

[4:16:05] and item 330 that will be heard

[4:16:05] together.

[4:16:09] Thank you.

[4:16:10] Council PRESIDENT Item s5o5 is

[4:16:12] declaring the results of

[4:16:13] the JUNE 2nd, 2026 municipal

[4:16:13] primary election held in

[4:16:18] the city of San Diego This item

[4:16:18] is not subject to the mayor's

[4:16:19] veto.

[4:16:19] An item 330 is calling a

[4:16:22] general election in the city of

[4:16:23] San Diego to be held on

[4:16:26] Tuesday, NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026 and

[4:16:26] consolidating the election with

[4:16:32] the statewide general election.

[4:16:32] This item is not subject to

[4:16:33] the mayor's veto.

[4:16:33] Thank you.

[4:16:37] Council PRESIDENT All right

[4:16:37] with that I see you have one of

[4:16:38] your city clerk staff so please

[4:16:39] introduce yourself for

[4:16:41] the record and let us know how

[4:16:42] much time you need for

[4:16:42] the combined presentation.

[4:16:45] I'll be requesting four minutes

[4:16:45] today.

[4:16:45] Okay.

[4:16:46] Good afternoon.

[4:16:46] Honorable Council PRESIDENT And

[4:16:50] City Council members.

[4:16:50] My name is Christine Hernandez

[4:16:51] and I am the Deputy Director of

[4:16:54] Elections and City Connections

[4:16:55] with the Office of the City

[4:16:55] Clerk.

[4:16:56] I am here to report a summary

[4:16:59] of the results of the primary

[4:17:00] election held on Tuesday JUNE

[4:17:03] 2nd, 2026 as outlined in Item

[4:17:04] 330 and give you a brief

[4:17:07] presentation on item s5o5

[4:17:08] calling the general municipal

[4:17:09] election in the City of San

[4:17:12] Diego to be held on Tuesday

[4:17:13] NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026 and

[4:17:15] consolidating the election with

[4:17:20] the statewide general election

[4:17:21] .

[4:17:21] The top two vote getters in

[4:17:22] each of the four races are as

[4:17:26] follows For the Office of

[4:17:26] Council District two Richard

[4:17:27] Bailey and Nicole Crosby for

[4:17:31] the Office of Council District

[4:17:31] four Henry Foster the third

[4:17:35] incumbent and Martha Abraham

[4:17:36] for the Office of Council

[4:17:36] District six Ken Lee incumbent

[4:17:40] and Mark Powell for the Office

[4:17:41] of Council District eight

[4:17:41] Antonio Martinez and head out

[4:17:45] of out Ramirez.

[4:17:46] The percentage of the vote an

[4:17:47] outcome for ballot measure a

[4:17:50] city of San Diego non primary

[4:17:50] homes tax on the JUNE 2nd 2020

[4:17:54] sixth primary election is as

[4:17:55] follows There were 155,050

[4:18:00] votes in favor or 46.85% and

[4:18:03] there were 175,898 votes

[4:18:07] against or 53.15%.

[4:18:08] This measure required a

[4:18:12] majority vote for approval

[4:18:13] Measure a did not receive

[4:18:13] the affirmative vote of a

[4:18:14] majority of the qualified

[4:18:17] voters voting on the measure

[4:18:18] and is hereby declared to have

[4:18:23] been failed Item as five of

[4:18:23] five calls the general

[4:18:24] municipal election and

[4:18:24] consolidates the election with

[4:18:27] the statewide general election

[4:18:28] to be held on Tuesday NOVEMBER

[4:18:30] 3rd, 2026.

[4:18:31] The ordinance and resolution

[4:18:32] before the Council are required

[4:18:35] to call this election and

[4:18:36] authorize the City Comptroller

[4:18:37] to reimburse the County of San

[4:18:41] Diego for the actual and direct

[4:18:41] cost of the services performed

[4:18:42] by the Registrar of Voters in

[4:18:45] connection with the election

[4:18:45] services.

[4:18:46] This the cost will be borne by

[4:18:50] the city's general fund

[4:18:51] the approved fiscal year 2027

[4:18:51] budgeted amount for this

[4:18:55] election in the citywide

[4:18:59] program expenditures is $2.331

[4:18:59] million.

[4:19:00] The actual costs will vary

[4:19:00] depending on how many

[4:19:04] jurisdictions participate.

[4:19:05] The term voters assigns

[4:19:05] election costs in a

[4:19:09] consolidated election using a

[4:19:09] weighted average method.

[4:19:10] This attributes cost to each

[4:19:14] jurisdiction based on

[4:19:14] the number of contests,

[4:19:15] the number of registered voters

[4:19:16] and the number of sample ballot

[4:19:19] pages.

[4:19:23] The city of San Diego has

[4:19:26] 840,544 registered voters as of

[4:19:27] the JULY 1st 2026 report

[4:19:27] provided by the Registrar of

[4:19:31] Voters This concludes my

[4:19:32] presentation and the City Clerk

[4:19:32] and I are happy to answer any

[4:19:36] of your questions.

[4:19:36] All right.

[4:19:37] Thank you Christine for that

[4:19:37] report.

[4:19:38] Clerk Please proceed with

[4:19:41] public comment on both items.

[4:19:42] >> Thank you.

[4:19:42] Council PRESIDENT Anthony

[4:19:45] Ralphs If you can please come

[4:19:46] forward you will have two

[4:19:47] minutes to speak on both items

[4:19:51] 505 and item 330.

[4:19:51] After that we have Blair

[4:20:00] Beekman and allegedly Audra.

[4:20:04] Good afternoon Council.

[4:20:05] >> There's different ways of

[4:20:06] saying thank you.

[4:20:09] I don't want mine to be empty

[4:20:13] words So I bring these flowers

[4:20:13] and one of them is for

[4:20:14] the Carver and the other is for

[4:20:15] you, MS..

[4:20:17] Fuentes, for all of your work

[4:20:18] ensuring that we will be able

[4:20:19] to continue group presentations

[4:20:20] online I know that's not part

[4:20:23] of the agenda item so I will

[4:20:23] get on topic.

[4:20:28] I would love to see I wonder if

[4:20:29] there's a possibility I know

[4:20:29] that we have an ordinance

[4:20:32] making sure that NOVEMBER 3rd

[4:20:32] nationally is the same day that

[4:20:33] we vote with the other places

[4:20:34] in the country.

[4:20:36] But I'm curious to see what

[4:20:37] would happen, what kind of a

[4:20:37] voter turnout we would get if

[4:20:41] we could do it on a Saturday.

[4:20:41] I know nationally it's we have

[4:20:42] all those studies that have

[4:20:46] shown that we'd get much bigger

[4:20:46] voter turnout if we could have

[4:20:47] it on a day that a majority of

[4:20:50] the people in this country

[4:20:51] don't have to work.

[4:20:51] But I don't know if that's

[4:20:52] actually feasible.

[4:20:55] Thank you for the clarifying

[4:20:56] comments on the positions

[4:20:59] earlier that were spoken to.

[4:21:00] I also got these flowers for

[4:21:01] you Henry Foster Good luck with

[4:21:05] your race.

[4:21:05] I actually just put out one of

[4:21:06] your signs which I got from one

[4:21:09] of your constituents Michelle I

[4:21:10] put out one of your yard signs

[4:21:11] in front of my parents house in

[4:21:14] Coronado which I know obviously

[4:21:15] that's not in your area in your

[4:21:19] district but I know that

[4:21:20] there's a lot of workers from

[4:21:21] your district that work in

[4:21:24] Coronado and we're trying to

[4:21:25] get visibility out there So let

[4:21:25] me know if you need help

[4:21:28] walking and canvasing.

[4:21:29] I'm happy to do that and I

[4:21:29] appreciate you routinely being

[4:21:33] someone on this council that

[4:21:34] stands up to police brutality,

[4:21:38] stands up for police

[4:21:38] accountability, stands up for

[4:21:43] civilian oversight for not only

[4:21:44] and you've discussed use in

[4:21:44] your own words Accountability

[4:21:48] is a bare minimum.

[4:21:48] Accountability is just a start

[4:21:49] And I completely agree.

[4:21:50] So I want to thank you

[4:21:53] wholehearted Lee for all

[4:21:54] the work that you're doing and

[4:21:55] I want to support you in your

[4:21:58] upcoming election And thanks

[4:21:59] everybody.

[4:21:59] Thank you.

[4:22:04] Item s5 five and 330 for Blair

[4:22:04] Beckman.

[4:22:05] >> You'll have two minutes.

[4:22:06] Please proceed.

[4:22:17] Oh, hi.

[4:22:17] By Beekman.

[4:22:21] Um, thank you.

[4:22:22] Thank you for this item.

[4:22:23] It's very nice to speak to uh,

[4:22:27] the ideas of procedures and

[4:22:27] what we've been through in

[4:22:31] the past six months three

[4:22:32] months and what we'll be going

[4:22:35] forward to ensure the next hall

[4:22:35] and for the remainder of this

[4:22:36] year.

[4:22:40] >> Um, thank you for these

[4:22:41] efforts And then our election

[4:22:45] process is continuing.

[4:22:46] We have two persons on our

[4:22:50] council who I think are very

[4:22:51] well liked.

[4:22:51] They have good ideas and good

[4:22:56] ways to work and they are going

[4:22:56] for election.

[4:22:57] They're up for election at this

[4:23:01] time and they have some tough

[4:23:02] campaigns to look how they can

[4:23:03] uh how how they're there.

[4:23:04] Election process will continue.

[4:23:10] Um I in the spirit of that in

[4:23:10] the spirit of learning

[4:23:14] the election process you

[4:23:15] probably know my feelings that

[4:23:16] I'm learning you know my own

[4:23:19] process of how a community can

[4:23:20] work better And I've been

[4:23:25] really wanting a certain item

[4:23:26] and items to be thought about

[4:23:27] and moving forward And I mean

[4:23:30] it's been my personal feeling

[4:23:31] we to move forward with

[4:23:32] the block things this fall but

[4:23:33] I realize that we MAY have to

[4:23:35] wait And in the spirit of

[4:23:36] the election process I've been

[4:23:40] trying to develop ideas for her

[4:23:40] .

[4:23:41] The process can be a process

[4:23:45] process as part of a dialog of

[4:23:46] just better understanding where

[4:23:47] people are coming from and why

[4:23:50] they want to leave.

[4:23:50] We don't have to have final

[4:23:51] answers this fall but just if

[4:23:52] we're talking about the subject

[4:23:55] matter as part of the election

[4:23:56] process, as our procedures of

[4:24:00] community best practices that i

[4:24:01] figured out, that's the way we

[4:24:01] should be working and I think

[4:24:05] it'll accomplish a lot for all

[4:24:06] of us to the community.

[4:24:07] Everyone can get a better sense

[4:24:08] of what our surveillance and

[4:24:11] tech is.

[4:24:12] Lapd is leaving Flock They just

[4:24:13] announced that today.

[4:24:18] So it's an important matter.

[4:24:19] >> We can't just push under

[4:24:19] the rug.

[4:24:20] Let's hope we can keep it an

[4:24:20] open subject this fall And good

[4:24:22] luck.

[4:24:23] >> Thank you for that

[4:24:24] concluding remark allegedly

[4:24:27] Andrea Also on both items just

[4:24:32] really quick for a point of

[4:24:33] information as far as a charter

[4:24:38] city, can you guys do you not

[4:24:39] have the autonomy to govern

[4:24:44] locally without a kind of

[4:24:45] negating the constitution?

[4:24:49] I understand that to 18 is part

[4:24:50] of the Constitution but

[4:24:50] anything that is in law or

[4:24:55] anything like that that is

[4:24:55] against people's rights would

[4:24:56] be unconstitutional.

[4:25:01] So I'm just wondering do you

[4:25:02] not have the ability to stand

[4:25:03] outside that if you would In a

[4:25:03] point of order?

[4:25:04] I would like point of order.

[4:25:06] That's what I meant.

[4:25:07] Well, whatever.

[4:25:07] Okay.

[4:25:08] Point of order.

[4:25:08] The attorney says we're on

[4:25:10] solid ground with Prop 218 and

[4:25:11] how we implement.

[4:25:12] I know, but what I'm saying is

[4:25:16] if you're a charter, can you

[4:25:16] not?

[4:25:17] >> I don't know And I can take

[4:25:18] it up with the city attorney's

[4:25:18] office.

[4:25:18] Okay.

[4:25:21] I just think that you guys need

[4:25:22] to think more about that

[4:25:22] because you should have

[4:25:23] the autonomy to go outside of

[4:25:23] that.

[4:25:27] All of you guys are upset So I

[4:25:28] mean if you are a charter then

[4:25:28] you should be able to go

[4:25:29] outside of that.

[4:25:32] So I didn't because I didn't

[4:25:33] say point of order for real.

[4:25:37] Oh my gosh.

[4:25:38] Well what it's like you're

[4:25:39] learning You know what I'm

[4:25:39] saying?

[4:25:43] Like I mean whatever That's

[4:25:44] what's so ridiculous is like

[4:25:45] you guys want to Okay, well

[4:25:45] they always calling a point of

[4:25:52] order then because that's.

[4:25:53] Yeah.

[4:25:53] Anyway, this is interesting

[4:25:54] because it's like I mean you

[4:25:59] guys sit here and you know,

[4:26:00] want to talk about voting and

[4:26:03] it's like I mean Prop 218

[4:26:03] totally negates people's

[4:26:04] ability to make sure that they

[4:26:05] don't have water rate increases

[4:26:09] and like this ensures that they

[4:26:09] will always go through because

[4:26:10] if you guys think that you're

[4:26:15] going to be held in contempt if

[4:26:15] people protest like doesn't

[4:26:16] that negate the fact that if

[4:26:21] people protest that's their

[4:26:22] voice and that's what should be

[4:26:22] heard.

[4:26:23] It's just that because it's

[4:26:23] like you're basically saying

[4:26:27] that even if the people do

[4:26:28] you're going to pass it anyway.

[4:26:29] >> So I mean how is it that's

[4:26:29] not what we said.

[4:26:32] You're not talking to the two

[4:26:33] agenda items which are Yeah I'm

[4:26:34] talking about voting them.

[4:26:37] Yeah, it's about elections.

[4:26:38] So I'm just saying like with

[4:26:39] elections I mean if we're

[4:26:39] talking about something in

[4:26:44] voting in this prior item and

[4:26:45] then you want us to trust

[4:26:45] the process here, how can we do

[4:26:50] that when it's not really

[4:26:51] the people's voice?

[4:26:51] It's like it's 144,000 people

[4:26:56] come in here and you say that's

[4:26:57] people's voice being heard.

[4:26:58] It is it It's actually people's

[4:26:59] voice being silenced And that's

[4:27:03] time has concluded.

[4:27:04] I'm sorry that I'm out of time

[4:27:04] or going to those participating

[4:27:07] remotely starting with 8700.

[4:27:08] If you can please unmute will

[4:27:09] you be speaking to one or both

[4:27:12] of the items?

[4:27:13] Both Please proceed.

[4:27:14] You'll have two minutes.

[4:27:19] Thank you.

[4:27:20] Office of the City Clerk for

[4:27:25] all you do on these ballot

[4:27:25] measures and voting and all of

[4:27:26] that.

[4:27:30] It's so important to democracy

[4:27:30] to our city.

[4:27:38] Thank you so much for that You

[4:27:38] thank you to anyone who is

[4:27:42] willing to serve to run for

[4:27:42] office.

[4:27:43] We really appreciate you

[4:27:48] putting your chin out there.

[4:27:54] Number three $2 million plus

[4:27:54] 4th NOVEMBER election.

[4:27:55] Boy, that's inflation, isn't

[4:27:55] it?

[4:27:58] I know that like a million or

[4:27:58] so.

[4:27:59] Anyway, I know you understand

[4:28:00] all of that but that's a high

[4:28:03] figure, isn't it?

[4:28:03] Number four.

[4:28:10] Be careful of what you load on

[4:28:16] up to 18 because the ripples on

[4:28:16] and on and on and on.

[4:28:23] We are no we are not a closed

[4:28:23] system.

[4:28:24] We are not a pound in

[4:28:26] the ripples from 1818.

[4:28:27] And Google says it's about 40

[4:28:31] million It's up to 120 million

[4:28:32] That's a settlement is against

[4:28:37] the city and please let us know

[4:28:38] how it's going to hit our rates

[4:28:38] for water.

[4:28:43] Who love you all so much.

[4:28:44] >> Have a great summer recess.

[4:28:44] Thank you.

[4:28:49] Next is Natalie Rush if you can

[4:28:54] them you Hi Natalie Rafiki

[4:28:59] after them The council talked

[4:29:00] about this to 18 It was made

[4:29:05] more clear to me what we're

[4:29:10] dealing with what it's I'm

[4:29:11] almost speechless It anything

[4:29:12] that we're voting on anymore

[4:29:17] does it matter?

[4:29:18] And the people that are holding

[4:29:23] positions right now we need

[4:29:24] the ability to have leadership

[4:29:24] to say no more.

[4:29:33] That's like an inversion.

[4:29:33] I'm going to be paying the same

[4:29:34] amount as a golf course But I

[4:29:39] live in the apartment complex

[4:29:39] and we're kind of rated

[4:29:40] the same way.

[4:29:41] I know this is not that simple

[4:29:45] but everything just seems

[4:29:46] inverted and I hope people who

[4:29:51] are listening are really

[4:29:51] intentionally start to pay

[4:29:52] attention and show up because

[4:29:57] like they were saying, it's

[4:29:57] going to come down to

[4:29:58] the people and what are we

[4:30:02] willing to sacrifice a little

[4:30:03] so that we're not left with

[4:30:08] nothing?

[4:30:09] It's crazy to me.

[4:30:10] I have four children in this

[4:30:15] world that we're living in.

[4:30:15] It's not the same anymore.

[4:30:16] It's not going to go back to

[4:30:17] being the same and systems are

[4:30:20] going to fall.

[4:30:21] But how do we want to move

[4:30:21] forward?

[4:30:22] We really need to start

[4:30:27] researching everything that

[4:30:27] comes at us and be intentional

[4:30:33] with how we move intentional

[4:30:33] for the people, intentional in

[4:30:34] the choices we make and what

[4:30:39] we're leaving for our children

[4:30:39] and what we stand for.

[4:30:40] Because when we do nothing and

[4:30:41] be compliant then we're just

[4:30:45] guilty ourselves And I don't

[4:30:46] want to live in that type of

[4:30:46] world.

[4:30:47] Thank you.

[4:30:51] That doesn't the public comment

[4:30:51] on this item items.

[4:30:52] >> All right.

[4:30:57] I'm going to break my own rule

[4:30:58] and I guess I'll also kick this

[4:30:58] off.

[4:30:59] You're not gonna be paying

[4:30:59] the same amount as the golf

[4:31:02] course.

[4:31:06] A golf course uses probably

[4:31:07] 15,100 cubic feet a month.

[4:31:08] Somebody live in a condominium

[4:31:13] Probably does five 15,000

[4:31:14] versus five.

[4:31:14] You're not going be paying

[4:31:18] the same amount using the same

[4:31:19] rate.

[4:31:19] It's just like you go to

[4:31:25] the gas station no matter how

[4:31:26] good your mileage is, we all

[4:31:26] pay the same rate for gas.

[4:31:27] I want to make sure everybody

[4:31:28] understands that.

[4:31:31] So with that I don't see

[4:31:32] anybody else on the line.

[4:31:32] Thank you for the work.

[4:31:36] This is a requirement and you

[4:31:37] in the city clerk's office does

[4:31:38] such a very good job and it's

[4:31:38] very much appreciated.

[4:31:43] One question just wanted to

[4:31:44] double check that the estimated

[4:31:49] cost of the ballot to the city

[4:31:49] of San Diego was accounted for

[4:31:50] in the f y 27 budget.

[4:31:55] Yes it was.

[4:31:55] >> Okay, great.

[4:31:55] Thank you.

[4:31:56] I just wanted to verify that.

[4:32:01] With that I will move item s

[4:32:02] but that's 5 or 5.

[4:32:07] Council Councilmember Eli

[4:32:08] Rivera I will second your

[4:32:08] motion.

[4:32:08] >> All right.

[4:32:13] So a motion by myself and

[4:32:14] second by Councilmember Eli

[4:32:14] Rivera to move the staff

[4:32:17] recommendation at 5o5 Please

[4:32:18] vote or call the roll.

[4:32:26] Please cast your vote That does

[4:32:27] passed unanimously 8 to 0 with

[4:32:32] Councilmember Campo Absent.

[4:32:33] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[4:32:33] All right.

[4:32:34] On an item 330 calling

[4:32:37] the general municipal election

[4:32:38] ,I will again make the motion

[4:32:39] for that Councilmember Eli

[4:32:42] Rivera.

[4:32:43] So somebody else wants to jump

[4:32:51] in.

[4:32:52] >> So a motion by myself in

[4:32:53] the second by council be

[4:32:54] regarding the staff

[4:32:54] recommendation I have 330.

[4:32:55] Please call the roll and start

[4:32:55] the voting system.

[4:33:05] Please cast your vote No that

[4:33:06] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with

[4:33:06] Councilmember Campo absent.

[4:33:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[4:33:11] right.

[4:33:12] >> Thank you, City Clerk And

[4:33:13] with that what a way to end

[4:33:13] the first half of

[4:33:17] the legislative year.

[4:33:18] So we will now adjourn Council

[4:33:18] to the next regularly scheduled

[4:33:19] council meeting on Monday

[4:33:24] AUGUST 24th, 2026 at 10 A.M.

[4:33:26] Have a good recess.

[4:33:33] >> No to the flowers so we'll

[4:33:34] find a suitable home for them.

[4:33:36] I thank you very much for

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