[11:11] council Ron Wolfram I'd

[11:14] like to do a magic I am here.

[11:15] >> Can you all hear me?

[11:15] Yes we can.

[11:16] Thank you so much.

[12:57] Thank you

[14:19] for doing

[14:19] it.

[14:19] >> Okay.

[14:20] Good morning and welcome back.

[14:23] After our legislative recess.

[14:24] I will now call the city

[14:25] council meeting on Monday,

[14:28] AUGUST 24th, 2026 to order

[14:29] Clerk Please call the roll.

[14:29] >> Thank you.

[14:30] Council PRESIDENT Council

[14:33] Member Campbell.

[14:34] Council Member Whitburn here.

[14:34] Council Member Foster.

[14:39] Council Member Von Wilpert for

[14:39] or.

[14:42] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[14:43] here.

[14:43] Council Member Campo here.

[14:44] Council Member Moreno

[14:44] PRESIDENT.

[14:48] Council Member Isla Rivera and

[14:49] Council PRESIDENT LaCava.

[14:49] Present Also attending

[14:53] the meeting Our city Attorney

[14:54] Heather Ferber, independent

[14:54] budget analyst Charles Monica

[14:55] and myself your city clerk

[14:58] Diana Fuentes.

[14:59] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[14:59] All right.

[14:59] Thank you.

[15:00] City Clerk and council member

[15:01] Vaughn Wolpert, would you like

[15:03] to make your statement at this

[15:03] point?

[15:04] >> Yes, Thank you very much.

[15:05] I am notifying the council that

[15:08] I will be attending the meeting

[15:08] today remotely due to medical

[15:09] accommodations pursuant to

[15:12] the Brown Act I am disclosing

[15:13] that there are no individuals

[15:14] over the age of 18 or older

[15:14] present in the room with me.

[15:18] I will update this disclosure

[15:19] to changes during the course of

[15:19] the meeting.

[15:19] Thank you.

[15:20] All right.

[15:23] Thank you very much And take

[15:24] care of yourself.

[15:24] A quorum is now present.

[15:25] Invocation.

[15:28] We will begin this morning with

[15:29] the invocation by Clarke 20th

[15:29] followed with the land

[15:30] acknowledgment and the Pledge

[15:31] of Allegiance led by counsel

[15:36] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Grant

[15:37] Those who hold office in this

[15:41] city the spirit of wisdom,

[15:42] charity and justice that was

[15:43] steadfast purpose.

[15:43] They MAY faithfully serve in

[15:45] their offices to promote

[15:51] the well-being of all people.

[15:51] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[15:52] that the communication or

[15:53] the original inhabitants of

[15:56] the Unceded land now known as

[15:56] San Diego Despite enduring

[15:57] the horrors of genocide and

[15:58] colonization, the ice spirit

[16:01] remains and broken.

[16:02] We honor the resilience of

[16:02] their ancestors who fought to

[16:06] protect their land and culture

[16:07] today to carry their legacy

[16:08] forward, ensuring that their

[16:08] traditions continue to thrive

[16:12] in gratitude and strength.

[16:13] We stand with the nation

[16:13] connected to our past and

[16:17] committed to a thriving future

[16:18] .

[16:18] If you please face the flag

[16:19] join me in the Pledge of

[16:21] Allegiance Again, I pledge

[16:22] allegiance to the flag of

[16:22] the United States of America

[16:27] and to the Republic for which

[16:28] it stands one nation under GOD,

[16:28] indivisible, with liberty and

[16:35] justice for all.

[16:40] City Clerk Please go over how

[16:41] the public can offer their

[16:41] testimony.

[16:42] >> Thank you.

[16:43] I'd like to highlight the slide

[16:43] on the screen that does review

[16:47] how the public can offer their

[16:47] public testimony during today's

[16:48] meeting.

[16:48] If you are in person please go

[16:49] to the speaker site located at

[16:51] the entrance of chambers and

[16:52] submit it at the front of

[16:52] the room in the clear box.

[16:56] No further in-person testimony

[16:57] will be taken once the Council

[16:58] begins virtual testimony for

[17:01] better meeting management

[17:01] purposes each speaker will have

[17:02] one minute per item per person

[17:03] up to a maximum of three

[17:07] minutes if there are three or

[17:07] more items on the closed

[17:08] session agenda.

[17:09] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[17:09] All right.

[17:11] Thank you Shelley Hawkins.

[17:12] With that please read

[17:12] the closed session items into

[17:13] the record.

[17:14] Conference with Legal Counsel

[17:17] existing Litigation pursuant to

[17:17] California Government Code

[17:21] Section 5495 6.90 161 Venue

[17:22] versus City of San Diego.

[17:22] Conference with Labor

[17:27] Negotiators pursuant to

[17:28] California Government Code

[17:31] Section 54957.662 The City

[17:32] Designated Management Team

[17:33] Representatives Conference with

[17:33] legal counsel significant

[17:37] exposure to litigation pursuant

[17:37] to California Government Code

[17:42] Section 5495 6.90 263 Number of

[17:43] claims to Conference Legal

[17:43] Counsel Existing litigation

[17:46] proceed to California

[17:47] Government Code Section 5495

[17:48] 6.91 Is this for labor law

[17:52] versus City of San Diego Those

[17:52] participating virtually that

[17:53] are part of an organized

[17:58] presentation.

[17:59] We do not have any organized

[17:59] presentations for the closed

[18:00] session agenda.

[18:01] Sorry for reading no worries

[18:03] with that please proceed with

[18:04] public comment.

[18:04] >> Thank you.

[18:05] We do have one person here and

[18:10] public comment Jesse Connor for

[18:10] c.

[18:11] S two If you can please come up

[18:11] to the microphone You will have

[18:12] one minute.

[18:12] Please proceed.

[18:17] Good morning MR. Chair.

[18:18] Honorable Council Jesse Carter

[18:18] Vice PRESIDENT Firefighters

[18:19] Local 145 speaking on item c

[18:21] has to in 2016 firefighters

[18:22] negotiate for an option to

[18:23] establish a medical veba for

[18:23] its membership a tax exempt

[18:28] trust to provide health care a

[18:28] benefit enjoyed by many groups

[18:29] across the state.

[18:30] We spent thousands of dollars

[18:33] on recognized experts as

[18:34] required by city attorney and

[18:34] risk management to demonstrate

[18:35] both the legality and

[18:36] the viability of such a plan.

[18:39] The city reaffirmed that option

[18:40] by approving it multiple mou

[18:40] cents.

[18:41] Now when firefighters here are

[18:46] ranked 23rd of 23 departments

[18:47] surveyed when firefighters

[18:47] would be going to work for

[18:48] the last 55 days without a

[18:51] contract, the city's

[18:52] negotiating team appears to be

[18:52] holding a new contract hostage

[18:53] on the premise that

[18:54] firefighters must agree to have

[18:58] this benefit stripped.

[18:58] This cost the city nothing.

[18:59] It already exists in our mou.

[19:00] We're no more important than

[19:03] other city employees but

[19:04] sometimes our needs are

[19:04] different.

[19:05] We should be allowed to pursue

[19:06] our needs just as other groups.

[19:06] We're not here to ask for

[19:09] anything more than what you've

[19:10] already approved.

[19:10] We respectfully request you

[19:11] preserve the status quo with

[19:12] regard to firefighter medical

[19:15] plan options Do not strike this

[19:16] language from our contract.

[19:16] >> Thank you very much.

[19:17] Thank you.

[19:17] That does include public

[19:21] comment here in council

[19:22] chambers have started the five

[19:22] minute timer going to those

[19:23] participating remotely.

[19:26] We currently have five people

[19:27] in the queue.

[19:27] When I unmute you please be

[19:28] sure to let me know which item

[19:34] or items you wish to speak to.

[19:34] >> Blair Beckman if you can

[19:35] please on you.

[19:38] All right, we're going to

[19:39] please you.

[19:39] >> Please proceed.

[19:40] You'll have one minute.

[19:40] Thank you.

[19:44] We're really nice public

[19:45] comment previously Thank you.

[19:50] I think it's worth debating,

[19:50] you know the future of benefits

[19:51] for San Diego employees.

[19:56] I've been learning really

[19:56] important lessons.

[19:57] We don't cut benefits.

[19:57] I think that's really

[19:58] important.

[20:02] Oakland is trying to do

[20:03] the same thing because you know

[20:04] there are serious budget issues

[20:04] they have They're doing

[20:08] the same thing the same thing

[20:08] to their city workers.

[20:09] I think it's a really wrong way

[20:09] to go.

[20:14] I really ask yourselves again

[20:15] to consider the idea of our

[20:19] city workers taking a 25 to $50

[20:20] pay cut a month That's like

[20:24] $600 a year And that actually

[20:25] brings a budget savings of

[20:25] close to 1 or $2 million.

[20:26] Can you please consider that

[20:31] option and keep our benefits?

[20:31] I think benefits are vitally

[20:32] important.

[20:33] Good luck to consider such an

[20:37] option for a future.

[20:37] >> Thank you.

[20:38] Thank you Million Mile Man If

[20:39] you can please unmute and let

[20:42] me know which item or items you

[20:43] wish to speak to.

[20:43] >> Are you on public?

[20:48] No we're on closed session

[20:48] agenda.

[20:49] >> Okay well then I would like

[20:54] to weigh in on what I just

[20:55] heard from You'll have one

[20:56] minute to speak on the agenda

[21:01] on the firefighter.

[21:02] Look, you know, it doesn't take

[21:06] a lot of intelligence to

[21:07] understand that you give

[21:07] the firefighters what they

[21:07] want.

[21:12] I mean, look at not only have

[21:13] they paid their dues and

[21:17] society, not only have they

[21:18] paid their dues too to humanity

[21:24] but they are deserving of of

[21:24] what they want, period.

[21:25] And it doesn't take much to

[21:26] understand it.

[21:30] This is all about common sense

[21:30] and that's all I have to say.

[21:36] But GOD bless all of those

[21:37] fellows that work in the San

[21:42] Diego rescue and lifeguarding

[21:43] and police and public safety.

[21:44] My GOD they can you imagine

[21:48] doing their job?

[21:49] i mean I can't imagine and I'll

[21:50] probably need them one day.

[21:54] So I hope not.

[21:55] But anyway, if you can hear me,

[22:00] MR. Connor man keep up the good

[22:00] work.

[22:01] >> I've got your back.

[22:01] Thank you.

[22:02] Thank you.

[22:02] Next to the original if you can

[22:07] please on mute and let me know

[22:08] which item or items you wish to

[22:08] speak to.

[22:09] I'm going to tap on all of it.

[22:12] You'll have three minutes.

[22:12] >> Please proceed.

[22:13] I really appreciate when people

[22:14] come in and give you their

[22:17] insight on what's really going

[22:18] on with these contracts and

[22:18] the fact that there's many of

[22:19] these employees that have been

[22:23] working uncontracted waiting

[22:23] to, you know, get things back

[22:29] over center.

[22:30] It's a little bit sad to think

[22:30] that, you know, that could be

[22:31] abused in such a way to have

[22:35] their benefits taken kind of

[22:36] force them to sign a contract

[22:41] which in that that would be

[22:42] null and void because you can't

[22:43] be forced to sign something.

[22:43] But you know, as we're talking

[22:47] about labor negotiations, it's

[22:47] a little bit interesting to see

[22:48] what's happening with

[22:49] the litigation with that and

[22:49] where you're going to be

[22:53] bringing in you know,

[22:54] discussing labor negotiations

[22:58] And when we have issues like

[22:59] this going on and for such a

[23:00] significant importance position

[23:05] because these guys do work that

[23:05] you know most people won't do

[23:06] but we need them And I feel

[23:11] like they get treated kind of

[23:11] you know, like they get

[23:12] the leftovers Whatever's left

[23:17] over after you know, you give

[23:18] all your employees in the city

[23:18] that are working with you guys

[23:22] all of their money, all of

[23:23] their benefits And then we have

[23:24] people that are on the job that

[23:28] are physically exerting a lot

[23:29] of energy and potentially, you

[23:30] know, getting injuries that

[23:34] nobody else that worked in

[23:35] the city are going to get And

[23:35] then we're cutting their

[23:36] benefits like they should

[23:36] actually have more.

[23:40] And if you do have to take from

[23:41] some of those employees that

[23:42] have been getting, you know,

[23:46] these significant pay raises

[23:47] that potentially, you know,

[23:48] work for the mayor or your

[23:48] guys's staff, I mean I think

[23:52] that these people deserve

[23:53] benefits over that pay raise

[23:54] that those people are getting.

[23:54] So if we have to make some hard

[23:58] choices, that's what needs to

[23:58] be done.

[23:59] And so I hope you guys do

[23:59] the right thing because you

[24:00] know, when they when you need

[24:05] them you're not going to want

[24:05] to, you know, have made a

[24:06] mistake for over a minute on

[24:06] that topic.

[24:10] On to another item There's two

[24:10] labor negotiation or one about

[24:15] fire and lifeguards and one

[24:15] about labor negotiations.

[24:16] So there's two of them in

[24:16] there.

[24:17] So thank you.

[24:20] But I'm going to keep going And

[24:21] for the other two with the trip

[24:26] and fall in the bike accident

[24:26] you guys need to you're with

[24:27] the way that you were telling

[24:32] us on the regular agenda how

[24:32] much the settlements are.

[24:33] It's no longer visible in just

[24:34] the itemized items.

[24:37] i think you guys need to bring

[24:38] that back so it can be

[24:39] transparent just right off

[24:39] the bat without having to go in

[24:43] search for the amount of money

[24:44] .

[24:45] And I think you guys need to do

[24:45] some kind of tally where you're

[24:49] saying this this year or this

[24:50] And all time we have spent on

[24:51] litigation for trip and falls

[24:55] for bike accidents for whatever

[24:56] and then show that you have

[24:56] gone into those areas where

[24:57] those accidents occurred and

[25:01] that has been mitigated and how

[25:02] much it cost to do that and

[25:07] what the cost benefit ratio is

[25:08] of you know the litigation and

[25:08] we're just fixing the roads and

[25:09] making sure that this kind of

[25:13] stuff doesn't happen on a

[25:14] continual revolving door basis.

[25:19] >> Our next week is 8700 if you

[25:20] can please I'm you and let me

[25:20] know which item or items you

[25:22] wish to speak to.

[25:23] The five minute timer also

[25:24] concluded we have one

[25:24] additional speaker after

[25:25] the speaker and no other

[25:26] speakers will be taken.

[25:27] >> Please let me know which

[25:27] items and proceed.

[25:32] Yes.

[25:33] >> One, two and three You'll

[25:34] have three minutes.

[25:39] Please proceed.

[25:40] Thank you, Julius And to

[25:41] welcome back everybody on c.

[25:44] S one which is another trip and

[25:45] fall I came up with this

[25:50] thinking on the agenda and

[25:51] feeling involved to then you

[25:56] Who is the one suing the city

[25:57] is a metaphor as all these

[26:02] people are that they have these

[26:03] suits against the city

[26:03] entrepreneurs.

[26:08] You're really a metaphor for

[26:08] this city is tripping and

[26:09] falling and tripping and

[26:13] falling on a public system for

[26:14] sidewalk maintenance and of

[26:19] course many, many other things

[26:19] .

[26:20] So I think it's a powerful way

[26:21] to look at this and to know

[26:25] that we're doing our best, that

[26:26] we are improving Regarding

[26:27] the sidewalks, that's for sure.

[26:33] I like this metaphor and it's

[26:34] just continuing and we need to

[26:34] just keep on top of

[26:38] the discussion We can see as to

[26:39] I'm not quite clear on

[26:40] the details of this item's

[26:43] purpose here and the speakers

[26:44] speak some very powerful words.

[26:49] I really respect and honor our

[26:50] and we'll use the memorandums

[26:51] of understanding.

[26:55] I think they're very powerful

[26:56] For some reason I really put my

[26:56] arms around the animal use and

[27:01] embrace them as a very positive

[27:02] support system for all of our

[27:02] beloved employees.

[27:07] And I do notice as I go out and

[27:07] about in the world that I can

[27:12] feel the tension in

[27:13] the employees as we go through

[27:14] these uncertain times and how

[27:18] we're having to meet them.

[27:19] So I love that there are so

[27:25] many names on that code section

[27:26] but there's just so many people

[27:27] that have the back of our

[27:27] employees and all the labor

[27:31] association.

[27:32] So if we're going to do it and

[27:32] just go with your employees, we

[27:33] love you firefighters,

[27:36] lifeguards please everybody we

[27:37] love you.

[27:42] Keep at it On Fire Street.

[27:42] Okay.

[27:43] Lifeguard service provision

[27:47] policy 2.9 Night crew I look

[27:51] like I read you the policy 2.9

[27:52] It does involve an animal you

[27:57] and excuse me I'm sitting on a

[27:58] sidewalk here.

[27:59] It's a long story but to me my

[28:04] crew work is still very

[28:04] crucial.

[28:05] It is a very strong policy and

[28:10] an mou which I think it has.

[28:10] Maybe it needs improvement.

[28:11] I also see us doing much better

[28:15] in honoring the needs of our

[28:16] excuse me of our valued and

[28:21] appreciated the lifeguards.

[28:22] We're really making progress

[28:23] with our lifeguards.

[28:28] I really feel good about it So

[28:29] if I keep at it it's going to

[28:29] be a great week.

[28:29] You're back.

[28:33] I hope you had a wonderful

[28:34] summer and I look forward to

[28:34] participating and hearing what

[28:39] you're sharing and sort of to

[28:39] all Thank you.

[28:40] Krypto Bradley if you can

[28:41] please unmute and let me know

[28:47] which item or items you wish to

[28:47] speak to.

[28:48] >> Thanks one and two please.

[28:51] This is Hector a I'd say on a

[28:52] good note the slip and fall

[28:57] that go into the airport Now

[28:57] what's great I dropped off my

[28:58] girlfriend at Southwest It's

[29:03] amazing how it works Really

[29:03] good.

[29:04] And then the slip and fall down

[29:04] at the island.

[29:09] The crosswalk that goes in

[29:09] there.

[29:10] I didn't get it done.

[29:11] That's like a dangerous

[29:15] situation And there's there's

[29:15] only one line left to

[29:16] the crosswalk and I've been

[29:16] going down there a lot

[29:21] different and it's gave me 543

[29:22] days that they're going to

[29:27] paint the crosswalk.

[29:28] So if we get it done that takes

[29:33] 531 days out of you.

[29:34] Just give us some paint at

[29:35] ourselves, you know, to speed

[29:35] it up.

[29:39] So because that could be a big

[29:40] time loss you could get a lot

[29:41] of traffic and people walking

[29:45] around on bikes and cars and

[29:45] the fire department you got to

[29:50] give them what they want.

[29:51] The attorneys are making all

[29:51] the money, maybe only have one

[29:57] city attorney on the job

[29:57] because that's what lawsuits

[29:58] are like.

[29:58] The attorneys, all those guys

[29:59] in the back, the attorneys or

[30:03] the fire, they could be getting

[30:03] paid by somebody anyway.

[30:09] That's just like any lawsuit.

[30:09] The attorneys are raking in

[30:10] the money to pay them and they

[30:11] put up warning signs that you

[30:14] want to river during the flood.

[30:14] It's going to be a massive

[30:21] health care disaster when

[30:21] the floods come and hit

[30:22] the water.

[30:22] Don't order any firemen or

[30:27] firefighter in the water.

[30:28] Don't even have them in there.

[30:29] Put up signs with your dumb in

[30:33] the water.

[30:34] You're on your all.

[30:34] Don't MISS Their last rescue

[30:35] When some idiot gets down there

[30:38] in the water during the storm

[30:39] that's common.

[30:40] It's not worth these guys lives

[30:43] to rescue something down there.

[30:44] So that's my thing with

[30:49] the lawsuits and the firemen.

[30:50] >> You got to give them

[30:50] the money.

[30:51] Thank you.

[30:55] Let us conclude closed session

[30:56] public comment.

[30:56] >> All right.

[30:57] Thank you, City clerk We will

[30:57] now recess and the close

[31:00] session and reconvene council

[31:01] today at 2 P.M. Or shortly

[36:42] thereafter

[38:42] and

[39:37] from the company we have like

[39:37] to make sure thank you for

[39:38] their official testimony.

[39:40] Yes I can thank you so much.

[39:40] Thank you.

[39:41] And Capital One welcome.

[39:41] Hello and thank you so much.

[40:11] >> Thank you.

[42:02] >> And I think

[44:02] really

[47:12] we're ready.

[47:18] >> All right.

[47:19] Good afternoon.

[47:19] Yeah.

[47:19] First day back from our

[47:20] legislative recess.

[47:24] I will now reconvene the city

[47:25] council meeting on Monday,

[47:25] AUGUST 24th, 2026.

[47:30] Clerk please call the roll.

[47:30] Thank you.

[47:31] Council PRESIDENT Council

[47:31] Member Campbell Councilmember

[47:37] Woodburn Councilmember Foster

[47:37] Yeah.

[47:38] Council Member Von Wilpert

[47:38] Present Council PRESIDENT Pro

[47:42] Tem Lee Your Council member

[47:42] Campo Yeah.

[47:43] Councilmember Moreno Present

[47:48] Council Regular Rivera and

[47:48] Council PRESIDENT Like other

[47:49] PRESIDENT Also attend

[47:49] the meeting Our Assistant city

[47:54] Attorney Michelle Garland

[47:55] Independent Budget Analyst

[47:56] Charles Monaco Council Affairs

[47:56] Advisor to the Mayor's office

[48:01] Code advisor and myself or City

[48:02] clerk Diana Fuentes.

[48:02] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[48:03] right.

[48:03] Thank you.

[48:04] City Clerk Councilmember Van

[48:06] Wolpert Would you like to make

[48:06] your statement?

[48:07] >> Yes, Thank you.

[48:08] Council PRESIDENT I am

[48:08] notifying the council that I

[48:09] will be attending this

[48:12] afternoon to be remotely due to

[48:12] medical accommodations pursuant

[48:13] to the Brown Act.

[48:13] I'm disclosing that there are

[48:17] no individuals 18 years of

[48:18] older person in the room with

[48:18] me.

[48:19] I will update this disclosure

[48:20] if it change during the course

[48:20] of the meeting.

[48:25] Thank you.

[48:25] >> All right.

[48:26] Thank you.

[48:26] And Councilmember Campos thank

[48:27] you Council PRESIDENT As

[48:28] similar to a couple of words

[48:29] I'll be joining virtually this

[48:30] afternoon under just copies of

[48:31] the Brown Act for childcare

[48:35] purposes there's no one over

[48:36] the age of 18 or over with me

[48:36] and if that changes I will

[48:41] notify the council and

[48:41] the public.

[48:41] >> Thank you.

[48:42] All right.

[48:42] Thank you both for taking

[48:43] the time to participate Given

[48:46] your particular challenges.

[48:47] A quorum is now present.

[48:53] Are there any mayoral council,

[48:53] city attorney, independent

[48:54] journalist or city clerk

[48:59] comments Not seeing any.

[48:59] We'll move right along.

[49:00] Please go over how the public

[49:01] can offer their testimony.

[49:05] Thank you.

[49:06] Council PRESIDENT I would like

[49:06] to highlight the slide on

[49:07] the screen that reveals how

[49:08] the public can offer their

[49:10] public testimony during this

[49:10] afternoon's meeting.

[49:11] The order can be found on

[49:11] the agenda summary found online

[49:12] or at the table in the back of

[49:15] the room.

[49:16] If you are in person please

[49:17] complete the speaker slip

[49:17] looking at the entrance of

[49:18] chambers and bring it to

[49:19] the front of the room.

[49:21] Place it in the clear box where

[49:22] the arrow indicates council

[49:23] ambassadors are available near

[49:26] the entrance of chambers and

[49:27] can assist with questions and

[49:28] speaker slips and no further

[49:28] in-person testimony will be

[49:32] taken once the council begins

[49:32] Virtual testimony.

[49:33] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[49:33] All right.

[49:34] Thank you.

[49:38] And again as I have started to

[49:39] do last before the recess when

[49:39] you're speaking to a docket

[49:44] item, please speak to

[49:44] the docket item.

[49:45] We will be having an agenda

[49:45] public comment where you have a

[49:49] much freer reign as to what you

[49:49] want to talk about at the end

[49:54] of this afternoon session.

[49:54] >> And with that clerk please

[49:55] introduce item 200.

[49:59] Item 200 is the proposed fiscal

[50:00] year 2027 Statement of

[50:05] Budgetary Principles.

[50:06] If you'd like to speak on this

[50:06] item now's the time to raise

[50:07] your hand by pressing Star nine

[50:08] or if you are here in person

[50:10] please be sure to bring your

[50:11] speakers up to the front of

[50:12] the room so that we can have it

[50:12] ready.

[50:12] Thank you.

[50:16] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[50:17] Thank you.

[50:17] All right.

[50:18] This item is being brought

[50:18] forward by the Office of

[50:19] the Independent Budget and also

[50:21] kick it over to MR. Monica to

[50:22] start the presentation.

[50:22] Great.

[50:22] Thank you.

[50:23] Council PRESIDENT Council

[50:26] members So this item is

[50:27] the city's 20th Annual

[50:28] Statement of Budgetary

[50:28] Principles.

[50:32] The documents that staff will

[50:32] be going over are essentially

[50:33] an agreed upon set of reporting

[50:34] and communication

[50:38] responsibilities for both this

[50:38] Council and administration as

[50:42] it actually implement the fy

[50:42] 2027 budget.

[50:43] So the best practice to ensure

[50:43] that both the administration

[50:48] and the Council agree on

[50:49] the communication and roles and

[50:49] responsibilities associated

[50:50] with the budget that are before

[50:53] each of those bodies.

[50:54] Sergio I'll call the on my

[50:54] staff will walk you through

[50:57] the actual statement itself.

[50:58] I would just note at the outset

[50:59] that this statement of

[50:59] principles essentially covers

[51:03] everything that you saw in

[51:04] the prior statement for fy 2026

[51:05] with one addition and that is a

[51:08] requirement of

[51:09] the administration to provide

[51:09] an annual update to the Council

[51:10] on Settlements and Judgment

[51:13] payments that the city makes

[51:14] each year.

[51:14] With that I'll kick it over to

[51:17] Sergio and his presentation

[51:18] will take about six minutes.

[51:18] >> Thanks, Charles.

[51:19] I'm sorry I'll call the office

[51:22] of the aba On JUNE 30th 2026

[51:26] Our office released Iberia

[51:26] Report 26 Dash 18 which

[51:27] includes the proposed fiscal

[51:30] year 2027 Statement of

[51:31] Budgetary Principles Since

[51:32] the Statement of Budgetary

[51:32] Principles is an annual

[51:35] agreement between Council and

[51:36] the Mayor our office obtain

[51:37] review and input from

[51:37] the Department of Finance as

[51:40] well as the City Attorney's

[51:40] Office.

[51:41] We appreciate their

[51:41] collaboration.

[51:42] We're asking the Council to

[51:46] review and adopt the principles

[51:46] with any desired modifications.

[51:50] By way of background,

[51:51] the Statement of Budgetary

[51:51] Principles represents an

[51:52] agreement between Council and

[51:56] the Mayor for administration of

[51:56] the budget.

[51:57] It clarifies budgetary

[51:57] authority and facilitates

[52:01] communication regarding

[52:01] the budget.

[52:02] The need for the principles

[52:02] came with the transition to

[52:05] the strong mayor strong council

[52:06] form of government.

[52:07] At the time there was a lack of

[52:10] clarity between the executive

[52:11] and legislative branches about

[52:12] budget administration and

[52:12] handling of related fiscal

[52:15] matters.

[52:16] The statement of budgetary

[52:20] principles was put into place

[52:20] in fiscal year 2008 as an

[52:24] accompanying resolution to

[52:24] the fiscal year 2000.

[52:25] The appropriation ordinance

[52:26] since then has been adopted

[52:29] each year and we recommend it

[52:29] to continue for fiscal year

[52:29] 2027.

[52:33] The proposed principles were

[52:34] heard on the JULY 8th Budgeting

[52:38] Government official commit

[52:39] Government Efficiency Committee

[52:39] which forwarded it to council

[52:40] without any additional

[52:43] adjustments.

[52:47] The principles can be broken

[52:48] down into three sections.

[52:49] First the communication on

[52:52] budget programs services.

[52:53] The second is the Appropriation

[52:56] ordinance.

[52:57] And third is the principles for

[52:58] an effective, collaborative and

[53:01] transparent city budget

[53:01] process.

[53:02] I will provide highlights for

[53:03] these functions for these

[53:06] sections later in this

[53:07] presentation.

[53:07] The proposed fiscal year 2027

[53:11] principles largely mirrored

[53:12] those of fiscal year 2026 with

[53:13] most revisions consisting of

[53:16] updated dates and technical

[53:16] adjustments.

[53:17] I do want to note that there is

[53:18] one proposed substantive

[53:21] judgment which is a requirement

[53:21] for an annual update on

[53:22] the city's settlement and

[53:22] judgment payments including

[53:26] related expenses and claim

[53:26] information for the police

[53:27] department.

[53:30] This adjustment stems from a

[53:31] request that came out of

[53:31] the JUNE 17th Budget and

[53:32] Government Efficiency Committee

[53:35] meeting.

[53:39] >> Moving on to the three

[53:40] sections of the proposed

[53:40] principles the first outlines

[53:44] how communications should occur

[53:45] regarding budget to programs

[53:45] and services.

[53:49] The principles require

[53:50] the mayor to provide quarterly

[53:51] reports to the council which

[53:51] are done through the quarterly

[53:54] budget monitoring reports.

[53:55] The mid-year budget process is

[53:56] also included in this

[54:00] requirement under which

[54:00] the Mayor MAY recommend to

[54:01] council how to budget any

[54:02] projected surplus or how to

[54:04] adjust any projected deficit.

[54:05] For the third bullet the mayor

[54:09] must provide written notice to

[54:09] council before implementing any

[54:13] significant reduction or delay

[54:14] to a funded program.

[54:15] This written notice must

[54:18] include justification and a

[54:19] description of service level

[54:20] impacts including potential

[54:23] unintended consequences that

[54:24] create disproportionate

[54:25] inequity for communities of

[54:25] concern.

[54:28] We emphasize the importance of

[54:29] both clear communication and

[54:30] making any reductions

[54:33] thoughtfully.

[54:38] >> The next section sets out a

[54:39] sets of principles for

[54:40] the Appropriation Ordinance or

[54:43] aoe The principles preserve

[54:44] the intent that the aoe is a

[54:45] document to implement adopted

[54:47] budget and does not provide

[54:48] policy direction.

[54:48] The principles also state that

[54:53] neither the mayor nor Council

[54:53] have unilateral authority to

[54:54] make changes to the spending

[54:57] authority in the budget.

[54:58] Accordingly, Council cannot

[55:01] change the budget without first

[55:02] receiving a funding

[55:03] recommendation from the mayor.

[55:07] And finally the mayor must in

[55:07] good faith fulfill

[55:08] the legislative intent

[55:12] reflected in the budget.

[55:12] The principles further include

[55:13] Council's intent that services

[55:14] be implemented equally and

[55:19] equitably.

[55:20] >> The final section in

[55:20] the principles applies to an

[55:23] effective city budget process.

[55:24] This line lists some of

[55:25] the principles for a fiscally

[55:26] responsible budget process

[55:28] including eliminating

[55:29] the structural budget deficit

[55:30] for pursuing service delivery

[55:34] efficiencies, maintaining

[55:34] reserves and planning for

[55:35] deferred capital infrastructure

[55:43] and its maintenance.

[55:44] >> Other principles for an

[55:44] effective city budget process

[55:45] include limiting programmatic

[55:48] supplemental positions.

[55:49] The principles note that

[55:49] programmatic supplemental

[55:53] positions should only be

[55:54] requested after the fiscal

[55:55] year's first quarter unless

[55:58] the need for these positions

[55:59] could not have been anticipated

[55:59] during the budget adoption

[56:03] process and waiting until

[56:03] the end of the first quarter

[56:04] would restrict the city's

[56:05] ability to provide critical

[56:08] services.

[56:08] Other principles include having

[56:09] council committees review key

[56:13] performance indicators or KPIs

[56:13] and ensuring collaboration and

[56:18] carrying out council's policy

[56:18] directives including

[56:19] the Programs Council has

[56:22] included in the adopted budget

[56:23] and the city's labor

[56:23] negotiation policies.

[56:28] The principals also encourage

[56:28] council members to discuss any

[56:29] proposed adjustments with our

[56:32] office before Council's final

[56:33] budget adoption meeting so that

[56:33] we MAY provide feedback.

[56:38] As we noted earlier, there is

[56:38] one proposed substantive change

[56:39] to the principals.

[56:42] This new change would require

[56:42] the risk management department

[56:43] to give City Council an annual

[56:44] presentation on the city's

[56:47] settlement and judgment

[56:48] payments including related

[56:48] expenses and claim details for

[56:52] the city's police department.

[56:53] Again, this proposal reflects a

[56:58] request a request made at

[56:58] the JUNE 17th dng Committee

[56:59] meeting following a similar

[56:59] presentation from risk

[57:02] management.

[57:03] >> What that our office is

[57:06] requesting the Council to

[57:07] review and approve the proposed

[57:08] fiscal Year 2027 Statement of

[57:09] Budgetary Principles along with

[57:11] any desired changes.

[57:12] Note that since this is an

[57:13] agreement between the City

[57:16] Council and the mayor, any

[57:17] proposed revisions to

[57:18] the principles will be subject

[57:18] to mayoral approval.

[57:21] That concludes my presentation.

[57:22] Council PRESIDENT And we're

[57:23] happy to answer any questions.

[57:23] All right.

[57:26] With that thank you very much

[57:26] with for the presentation of

[57:27] the work to bring this item

[57:31] forward and the work with

[57:31] the Budget Committee.

[57:32] With that city Clerk please

[57:35] proceed with public comment And

[57:36] again we'll be looking for your

[57:37] comments on item 200.

[57:40] Thank you.

[57:41] Council PRESIDENT We do have

[57:41] several speakers here in

[57:42] council chambers.

[57:42] We did not received any

[57:45] organized presentation requests

[57:46] for this item so we'll be

[57:49] starting with Joyce Senora And

[57:50] as noted on the agenda it is

[57:51] two minutes per person.

[57:54] So Joy, if you can please come

[57:55] forward if I can have

[57:55] the following individuals

[57:56] please come up to the reserved

[57:59] seats at the front.

[57:59] Paul Krueger, Laurie Saldana

[58:00] and allegedly Audra please

[58:03] proceed.

[58:04] >> Thank you.

[58:08] Okay.

[58:09] The slip that I gave to our

[58:13] dear city clerk is one that has

[58:17] red letters on it and it says

[58:18] opposed.

[58:22] And I want you to know that I

[58:23] am a strong no on this item.

[58:31] I am a strong no.

[58:36] >> Sergio, thank you for

[58:36] presenting it.

[58:36] Very good.

[58:40] And thank you to everybody who

[58:41] worked on it and for these

[58:42] many, many years.

[58:45] Thank you so much.

[58:46] So it's a great document.

[58:47] There's no doubt about it And

[58:50] it's needed And I love

[58:51] the authority part of it

[58:54] clearing that up on

[58:55] the executive and legislative

[58:55] branches.

[58:56] I love the communication and

[59:00] the collaboration portion of

[59:00] it.

[59:01] I love that it's you know,

[59:05] helps with the budget changes.

[59:05] I like that the framework is

[59:09] there for administering

[59:10] the administration of

[59:13] the budget each fiscal year.

[59:18] Here's what I don't like.

[59:19] >> Support a physically

[59:21] responsible budget process.

[59:26] >> It does not.

[59:27] How long have we had a

[59:30] structural budget deficit?

[59:31] We're not addressing it and you

[59:36] don't address it clearly in

[59:36] this document?

[59:40] We don't we're not supporting a

[59:41] fiscally responsible budget

[59:41] process.

[59:45] Period.

[59:46] And I don't know when we're

[59:46] going to start.

[59:51] We nibble at it and all we do

[59:51] is nibble.

[59:55] And I ask you for several years

[59:56] to remove the word any as it

[59:56] relates to the structural

[1:00:00] budget deficit.

[1:00:00] Any to me is a question any

[1:00:05] structural budget deficit?

[1:00:05] >> No, we have one.

[1:00:06] Anyway, thanks for listening.

[1:00:17] Love to all No on this item.

[1:00:18] >> Uh, good afternoon, council

[1:00:18] members.

[1:00:22] I wanted to thank you first of

[1:00:23] all especially Councilmember

[1:00:26] Foster for the increased

[1:00:27] scrutiny that you're going to

[1:00:28] have on police settlements.

[1:00:32] I think it's important that you

[1:00:33] thoroughly review and try to

[1:00:36] take affirmative early action

[1:00:42] to understand why we're making

[1:00:42] these settlements and ways that

[1:00:43] we can avoid them And that goes

[1:00:47] much further to all forms of

[1:00:48] public liability.

[1:00:48] Look at the number of

[1:00:49] settlements you have on this

[1:00:55] Tomorrow's budget for trip and

[1:00:56] falls and flooding that are

[1:00:57] totaling tens hundreds of

[1:00:59] millions of dollars a year.

[1:01:00] But I wanted to speak most to

[1:01:04] this issue on that aspect of

[1:01:04] effective collaborative and

[1:01:08] transparent communication in a

[1:01:09] mayor council form of

[1:01:13] government as Apple clickable

[1:01:14] to the city's budget process.

[1:01:19] My concern or my example I

[1:01:19] would give about the really

[1:01:24] significant importance of this

[1:01:24] is this complete breakdown that

[1:01:25] we had on the restrooms in

[1:01:29] mission Bay.

[1:01:29] I wasn't the only one to

[1:01:33] express concerns about

[1:01:33] the closure of those restrooms

[1:01:37] in JULY before you went on your

[1:01:38] hiatus.

[1:01:39] The fact that it got past

[1:01:42] the budget approval process

[1:01:43] when at least one of you

[1:01:48] opposed the closure of those

[1:01:49] restrooms and that they

[1:01:49] continued closed for another

[1:01:53] month in the face of

[1:01:57] significant public outcry for

[1:01:58] want of a better word is really

[1:02:02] unacceptable.

[1:02:03] That should not have happened

[1:02:04] And I don't think as members of

[1:02:07] the public we care what

[1:02:08] the reason why they were closed

[1:02:12] and more importantly why it

[1:02:13] took more than a month to open.

[1:02:14] But nobody and I think

[1:02:17] yourselves included wants to

[1:02:18] see that happen again.

[1:02:18] >> Thank you.

[1:02:22] Thank you.

[1:02:22] Hold on.

[1:02:23] You and I understand you have a

[1:02:25] presentation materials to share

[1:02:30] for the.

[1:02:30] But did you want to start with

[1:02:35] the video or start speaking

[1:02:36] videos for this is just images.

[1:02:36] >> Oh I don't know what that

[1:02:37] music came from.

[1:02:39] My apologies either but I

[1:02:40] wanted to start by saying that

[1:02:44] in order to have these

[1:02:44] budgetary principles work you

[1:02:48] need to have good faith

[1:02:48] negotiations with the mayor.

[1:02:53] And if the mayor is in

[1:02:53] Sacramento negotiating on

[1:02:54] issues such as exemptions for a

[1:02:59] project to take place at

[1:02:59] the council then has no control

[1:03:00] over.

[1:03:03] You are being encumbered

[1:03:03] legislatively in ways that I

[1:03:04] don't think are good faith

[1:03:08] principles If your ability and

[1:03:09] specifically I'm talking about

[1:03:17] efforts by the mayor and body

[1:03:18] to have exemptions to secure

[1:03:22] for a major development project

[1:03:22] in an area that lacks

[1:03:23] the infrastructure to support

[1:03:23] it.

[1:03:26] Go ahead to the next slide

[1:03:27] please.

[1:03:27] So while the mayor is supposed

[1:03:31] to be communicating in good

[1:03:32] faith with you, he is making it

[1:03:33] impossible for you to safeguard

[1:03:37] people in an area.

[1:03:37] If I could have the next image.

[1:03:38] Thank you.

[1:03:41] That is rapidly this is an

[1:03:42] image from Rotterdam is rapidly

[1:03:42] sinking much like other cities

[1:03:46] around the world because of sea

[1:03:46] level rise.

[1:03:50] And PRESIDENT Lacob, you're an

[1:03:51] engineer.

[1:03:51] I don't think we need to tell

[1:03:52] you that saltwater intrusion

[1:03:55] into structures is not a good

[1:03:55] combination and the city's

[1:03:56] ability to deal with it.

[1:04:00] Your council ability.

[1:04:01] >> I'm going to I'm also

[1:04:02] the council PRESIDENT And we

[1:04:04] ask people to speak to

[1:04:05] the budgetary principles

[1:04:05] whether the language is good or

[1:04:06] whether you like the addition

[1:04:10] rather than veer off into other

[1:04:11] conversations that might be

[1:04:11] more appropriate for the next

[1:04:13] item or certainly for non

[1:04:18] agenda No.

[1:04:19] >> Well we'll put it back If I

[1:04:22] did say it for you and one

[1:04:23] reason you have the budgetary

[1:04:23] principles was because you were

[1:04:27] not having good communication.

[1:04:28] There was a pension crisis that

[1:04:29] was underfunded that wasn't

[1:04:32] communicated And I would say

[1:04:32] that the same thing is

[1:04:33] happening now where you are

[1:04:36] being obligated for some

[1:04:37] expenses that you were not

[1:04:37] privy to and that you would

[1:04:41] have no control over and that

[1:04:42] has to do with some development

[1:04:42] projects specifically But

[1:04:46] there's other things as well.

[1:04:47] So if you're against

[1:04:47] the administration, the mayor

[1:04:52] is going to lobby on behalf of

[1:04:52] the city for a specific piece

[1:04:56] of legislation or to that is an

[1:04:57] encumbrance of future fiscal

[1:05:01] responsibilities And it is not

[1:05:01] in good faith And I don't

[1:05:02] believe you're going to meet

[1:05:07] the goal of of this.

[1:05:07] >> Thank you.

[1:05:07] Thank you.

[1:05:08] I did pause of your time during

[1:05:09] that So allegedly Andre, if you

[1:05:09] can please come forward.

[1:05:10] >> You'll have two minutes as

[1:05:14] well.

[1:05:19] >> I love here Enjoy Come out

[1:05:19] here and really start holding

[1:05:20] you guys accountable because it

[1:05:24] is very clear what's going on

[1:05:24] And you guys's actions speak

[1:05:25] louder than your empty words

[1:05:28] because even if you brought

[1:05:29] forward this ordinance to stop

[1:05:33] the things that you talk about,

[1:05:34] these things are still taking

[1:05:35] place and so you can't be

[1:05:39] trusted that you know, even if

[1:05:40] you continue to pass this that

[1:05:40] it's going to stop it.

[1:05:43] I mean because I think there's

[1:05:44] a lack of communication between

[1:05:48] you guys and the mayor And I

[1:05:48] don't believe there is an

[1:05:49] effective collaborative process

[1:05:52] that is taking place which is

[1:05:53] really unfortunate because you

[1:05:54] guys need to be good stewards

[1:05:54] of our money.

[1:05:57] But if there's this constant

[1:05:58] battle and one side's doing

[1:05:59] something that the other side

[1:06:02] isn't stopping, then you know

[1:06:03] how how strong is that for

[1:06:07] the city And what happens if

[1:06:08] you guys don't pass this?

[1:06:09] I feel like that's something

[1:06:09] that you guys should put in

[1:06:12] here, you know, like do you

[1:06:13] have to because you guys get

[1:06:16] into these situations where you

[1:06:17] pretty much have to pass

[1:06:17] the item and so you go ahead

[1:06:21] and do it just because you have

[1:06:22] to instead of going is this

[1:06:25] really what's best If we

[1:06:26] brought it forward to stop

[1:06:27] the things that we're talking

[1:06:27] about, it hasn't done that

[1:06:30] because then you're just

[1:06:31] gaslighting the people acting

[1:06:32] like you're you're you know,

[1:06:35] doing what's best because even

[1:06:36] still like the fulfilling

[1:06:36] the intent of the budget does

[1:06:40] that ever happen I mean

[1:06:40] potentially because your guys

[1:06:41] is in the mayor's intent is

[1:06:44] different than what you present

[1:06:45] to the people so you're filling

[1:06:46] your own pockets and things

[1:06:49] like that But what you present

[1:06:50] to the people isn't what's

[1:06:50] happening and the impacts.

[1:06:51] It's like who knows what

[1:06:54] the impacts are like even

[1:06:54] closing the bathrooms.

[1:06:55] Is that something that

[1:06:56] the mayor let you guys know

[1:06:59] what those impacts were going

[1:07:00] to be and how would he know

[1:07:00] that?

[1:07:03] How could you trust that he

[1:07:04] would provide you enough

[1:07:05] information that would really

[1:07:05] show what the people are going

[1:07:09] to be, you know, suffering?

[1:07:09] I mean because he's not going

[1:07:10] there and having to suffer

[1:07:10] that.

[1:07:14] So I just think you guys need

[1:07:15] to be more mindful about

[1:07:15] the way you do this And we need

[1:07:16] to be hearing about what

[1:07:17] the impacts are if you don't

[1:07:19] pass it.

[1:07:25] Anthony Ralphs Okay then we'll

[1:07:25] go to those that are

[1:07:30] participate voting online

[1:07:31] starting with calling user one

[1:07:31] If you can please unmute you'll

[1:07:37] have two minutes.

[1:07:37] Say hello.

[1:07:43] Hello.

[1:07:44] >> Yes we can name it Gore on

[1:07:48] my name is Gore Button and I

[1:07:48] live in Tule Lake.

[1:07:49] I just want to say on

[1:07:50] the budget they are going to

[1:07:53] both we should not be giving

[1:07:54] money to Breaking Bad.

[1:07:58] Sure that we need to we are

[1:07:59] women or we are women in

[1:08:04] bathrooms and basically get

[1:08:04] what are you thinking and will

[1:08:05] there be an increase?

[1:08:08] I hate you pretty much if you

[1:08:09] are too weak and by you are a

[1:08:12] man and you do not belong in

[1:08:17] men's race men women,

[1:08:18] restrooms, women's locker rooms

[1:08:22] and women's jails I'm sick

[1:08:22] Entire training taking over San

[1:08:27] Diego GOD bless America GOD MAY

[1:08:28] appease Really GOD bless Donald

[1:08:31] Trump are eternal I think GOD

[1:08:35] bless our governor takes barely

[1:08:40] That concludes your comments.

[1:08:40] Okay Starting with next going

[1:08:44] to Kathleen Lippert.

[1:08:45] >> Thank you.

[1:08:50] Good afternoon.

[1:08:50] Council My name is Kathleen

[1:08:54] Lippert at over the past two

[1:08:55] decades the city of San Diego's

[1:08:59] workforce has expanded from

[1:09:03] 11,000 employees in 2005 to

[1:09:07] 13,000 in 2025 a 20% increase.

[1:09:07] Notably during that period

[1:09:08] management level positions

[1:09:12] surged by 461% this year.

[1:09:17] Meantime, along a 10% rise in

[1:09:22] the city's population, I want

[1:09:22] to point out that there is an

[1:09:26] example that the city could

[1:09:27] follow and perhaps collaborate

[1:09:27] with the city of Temecula.

[1:09:35] It became debt free after

[1:09:35] $76.86 million was paid off.

[1:09:36] The officially declared itself

[1:09:39] debt free.

[1:09:40] The city including the city

[1:09:44] manager announced

[1:09:45] the achievement in JULY 2026

[1:09:49] Temecula City Council Under

[1:09:50] the city's definition debt

[1:09:54] included mortgages facility

[1:09:54] loans, unfunded pension

[1:09:55] obligations and long term

[1:09:59] liability.

[1:10:00] If the payoff was the result of

[1:10:04] a multi-year financial strategy

[1:10:05] that addressed facility loans,

[1:10:09] mortgages unfunded pension

[1:10:10] obligations and other long term

[1:10:11] liabilities By resolving these

[1:10:15] obligations the city not only

[1:10:16] removed debt from its balance

[1:10:20] sheet but also reduced future

[1:10:21] interest costs significantly.

[1:10:25] However, this can only be done

[1:10:29] if there is a market solution

[1:10:30] and and dedication to being

[1:10:34] into integrity and and

[1:10:35] the public good.

[1:10:39] So thank you for letting me

[1:10:39] speak.

[1:10:40] >> Thank you.

[1:10:41] Next is John If you can please

[1:10:43] unmute.

[1:10:48] Good afternoon City Council

[1:10:49] members I'm sorry your and we

[1:10:50] can I can hear you very very

[1:10:54] faintly.

[1:10:54] Sorry about that.

[1:10:55] Is this better?

[1:10:55] Yes that's better.

[1:10:56] Please proceed.

[1:10:58] Excellent.

[1:10:59] >> John Brady with Lived

[1:10:59] Experience advisors.

[1:11:00] Good afternoon City Council.

[1:11:03] I am concerned about how

[1:11:03] the budget process played out

[1:11:07] this year.

[1:11:08] It seemed that we were going to

[1:11:09] protect everything related to

[1:11:12] our services for the homeless

[1:11:13] community.

[1:11:14] And at the very end it appeared

[1:11:14] that we were going to

[1:11:18] discontinue funding for the Neo

[1:11:19] good day center and now it

[1:11:19] appears that the denial good

[1:11:22] day center is going to be

[1:11:23] permanently closed and licensed

[1:11:24] from operation.

[1:11:27] That is a very different

[1:11:28] outcome from what we expected

[1:11:29] at the beginning and I can

[1:11:32] assure you the community

[1:11:33] response would have been much

[1:11:33] more aggressive had we known

[1:11:37] that a as a decrease in funding

[1:11:38] was going to be an absolute

[1:11:39] shutdown of the neo good day

[1:11:43] center To put that in

[1:11:43] perspective.

[1:11:44] The name of the Day Center has

[1:11:46] either 6 or 8 men's and women's

[1:11:47] stalls four bathrooms.

[1:11:50] That is over 50% of

[1:11:51] the available public bathrooms

[1:11:51] in the city of San Diego for

[1:11:55] people experiencing

[1:11:55] homelessness.

[1:11:56] >> That is an outrageous

[1:11:56] outcome.

[1:12:00] John I'm going to interrupt

[1:12:01] because I have to be fair to

[1:12:01] everyone.

[1:12:02] We're talking about

[1:12:04] the budgetary principles not

[1:12:05] about any facility or any

[1:12:06] budget allocation So understood

[1:12:09] and understood And what I'm

[1:12:10] seeking is more clarity when a

[1:12:14] shift like that is going to

[1:12:14] occur.

[1:12:15] So I and I apologize for

[1:12:19] getting into in depth into that

[1:12:20] I understand.

[1:12:20] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:12:24] So I really hope that in

[1:12:25] the future we are able to

[1:12:25] provide a lot more clarity

[1:12:29] about the impact of decisions

[1:12:30] like this as well as cutting

[1:12:35] cutting public bathrooms across

[1:12:36] the board.

[1:12:36] >> Thank you.

[1:12:37] Blair Beckman if you can please

[1:12:39] unmute.

[1:12:39] All right.

[1:12:45] Thank you.

[1:12:45] Beakman I really second

[1:12:46] the words of the previous

[1:12:46] caller.

[1:12:50] I'm very, very much so.

[1:12:50] >> We can continue to talk

[1:12:51] about these issues.

[1:12:54] Thank you.

[1:12:55] To me for me to speak on

[1:12:56] principles of budgetary

[1:13:00] concerns at this time it's my

[1:13:01] sincere hope that we're

[1:13:04] understanding that we can't

[1:13:05] just simply offer, you know,

[1:13:10] the best practices of budget

[1:13:10] austerity to immediately solve

[1:13:11] our budget issues a budget

[1:13:16] deficit issues.

[1:13:17] >> It was a fine that was a

[1:13:18] program that was created kind

[1:13:20] of in the 80s and 90s and it

[1:13:20] was the accepted standard way

[1:13:21] to work.

[1:13:25] But we're trying to understand

[1:13:26] the concepts that human beings

[1:13:30] come first before ledger books

[1:13:30] .

[1:13:31] And that is been a bit of a

[1:13:32] difficult journey for

[1:13:32] ourselves.

[1:13:35] We're learning how to navigate

[1:13:35] it.

[1:13:36] I hope we can continue that

[1:13:37] important journey into next

[1:13:40] year into 2027.

[1:13:41] So you know budget time in MAY

[1:13:47] of next year for 2028 we will

[1:13:47] be much more ready to talk

[1:13:51] about equity and talk about

[1:13:52] best practices so people don't.

[1:13:52] Services don't get cut.

[1:13:57] And then how we learn those

[1:13:57] principles.

[1:13:58] I want to be better prepared

[1:13:59] about how we learn

[1:14:02] the principles that we feel

[1:14:03] that continuing health care

[1:14:08] benefits and retirement

[1:14:08] services for our city

[1:14:09] government workers in times of

[1:14:13] stress is I think an important

[1:14:14] principle and that a pay cut

[1:14:15] MAY actually possibly be a

[1:14:19] little easier than cutting.

[1:14:19] You know, our concerns and our

[1:14:24] and our retirement concern for

[1:14:25] city workers it's learning a

[1:14:26] principle system that we're

[1:14:30] trying to navigate and better

[1:14:30] understand for all of us

[1:14:31] because look how we can do that

[1:14:32] And I think it can make our

[1:14:35] future better decisions better.

[1:14:36] And it has to be based on

[1:14:37] the choices of humanity and not

[1:14:41] serving economic forecasts and

[1:14:41] and ledger books.

[1:14:42] So good luck in the efforts.

[1:14:47] Thank you.

[1:14:48] Thank you.

[1:14:48] The five minute timer To

[1:14:49] conclude during Blair's

[1:14:49] comments there were three

[1:14:50] people in the queue.

[1:14:53] Additional speakers will be

[1:14:53] taken.

[1:14:54] Catherine Rose If you can

[1:14:54] please unmute.

[1:14:56] After that is Natalie Raskin

[1:14:57] 7499.

[1:14:57] >> Hello this is Catherine

[1:14:57] Rhodes.

[1:15:02] I wanted to talk about

[1:15:03] the structural budget deficit.

[1:15:03] You know maybe have and I put

[1:15:08] forward about proposed ballot

[1:15:09] measures that would have gone

[1:15:09] on the NOVEMBER ballot to

[1:15:13] eliminate the structural budget

[1:15:14] deficit.

[1:15:14] But instead of the debate

[1:15:19] giving a written report on why

[1:15:19] they think our numbers were

[1:15:24] incorrect, all we got was a

[1:15:25] verbal thing saying that it

[1:15:30] wouldn't make that much money

[1:15:31] wouldn't solve the structural

[1:15:31] budget deficit.

[1:15:35] But instead of using our

[1:15:36] numbers of about $140 million

[1:15:37] that would have came here that

[1:15:37] would have solved all your

[1:15:38] problems.

[1:15:42] And I just want to I would like

[1:15:43] the idea to actually put

[1:15:48] something in writing instead of

[1:15:49] just have it being verbal.

[1:15:50] You know, this was a plan to

[1:15:54] eliminate the structural budget

[1:15:54] deficit by identifying new

[1:15:55] revenue sources.

[1:16:00] One good thing is that the city

[1:16:00] of Los Angeles in JUNE did

[1:16:01] the same thing where they had

[1:16:06] know this was part of changing

[1:16:07] the municipal code to say

[1:16:11] online travel agencies are

[1:16:12] considered hotel operators and

[1:16:13] that they would have to pay

[1:16:15] the full transit occupancy tax

[1:16:22] instead of only a portion of it

[1:16:22] .

[1:16:23] Pretty soon we'll be getting

[1:16:23] information from Los Angeles

[1:16:24] that will probably show that

[1:16:28] they're going to be making so

[1:16:28] much more money.

[1:16:29] They think that they're only

[1:16:33] going to be making an

[1:16:33] additional $3 million for

[1:16:34] the whole year.

[1:16:38] I bet you they will make $3

[1:16:38] million in a couple of weeks

[1:16:39] and they're going to be making

[1:16:43] so much more money and using

[1:16:44] that information you'll see how

[1:16:45] much you guys totally lost

[1:16:45] the ball on this.

[1:16:50] The other thing about this is

[1:16:51] the idea and I believe also

[1:16:51] the city attorney tried to say

[1:16:56] that we needed a two thirds

[1:16:57] voter approval because of

[1:17:03] the measure c because it's a

[1:17:03] special tax.

[1:17:04] >> How about you're talking

[1:17:04] about concluded that only if

[1:17:11] you complete them you not only

[1:17:16] rushfield experience advisors

[1:17:17] When we talk about principals

[1:17:18] it is it is confusing I'm

[1:17:22] confused on all the principals

[1:17:22] .

[1:17:23] I would have changed my what I

[1:17:28] was going to say when I had my

[1:17:29] two minutes to speak on

[1:17:29] the budget If I would have

[1:17:30] understood what these proposals

[1:17:35] are, what we're going to be on

[1:17:36] there, what we're going to be

[1:17:36] on there, what was already

[1:17:37] decided.

[1:17:40] It's very frustrating because

[1:17:41] I'm passionate about what I do.

[1:17:41] I'm passionate about my family

[1:17:42] and what happens to them and

[1:17:46] what these decisions that are

[1:17:47] made that affect me personally

[1:17:47] and the rest of the community

[1:17:53] and those principles Are we

[1:17:53] going off the air,

[1:17:59] the bathrooms being shut down?

[1:18:00] Are they mayors, principals?

[1:18:04] Are we not having shelter?

[1:18:05] We are having shelters.

[1:18:05] Are they planning on putting us

[1:18:10] on on Break Ranch?

[1:18:11] I think there should be

[1:18:11] clarity.

[1:18:12] There should be What's the word

[1:18:16] transparency because it affects

[1:18:17] me personally my children

[1:18:23] personally and the principles

[1:18:24] that I stand by or live by

[1:18:28] don't seem to be the same as

[1:18:29] anybody else's which is fine.

[1:18:35] But the principles that we're

[1:18:36] who are beating us in this

[1:18:40] administration I don't I don't

[1:18:41] think we should be doing

[1:18:42] anything that goes along with

[1:18:42] those principles.

[1:18:47] Thank you.

[1:18:48] So I have to say thank you.

[1:18:49] And our final speaker lowered

[1:18:50] their hand so that does

[1:18:51] conclude public comment on this

[1:18:57] item.

[1:18:58] >> I think it took a second for

[1:18:59] that to sink in.

[1:19:02] All right.

[1:19:03] Thank you, city clerk.

[1:19:04] And with that we'll turn it

[1:19:04] over to council members for

[1:19:09] questions and comments and

[1:19:10] entertain a motion And we'll

[1:19:10] start with the chair of

[1:19:11] the Budget Committee.

[1:19:15] >> Councilmember Foster Yes.

[1:19:16] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[1:19:20] And thank you to the aba's

[1:19:21] office for the work that goes

[1:19:26] into this document.

[1:19:27] Thank you for putting in

[1:19:28] the information regarding risk

[1:19:32] management and having them

[1:19:33] included in the conversation.

[1:19:33] I think that's an important

[1:19:39] department and important fund

[1:19:40] as it is you know the backstop

[1:19:44] it is the general fund.

[1:19:45] And so I think that's something

[1:19:46] that is of value as we go

[1:19:46] through our budget

[1:19:51] deliberations.

[1:19:52] Also for transparency just so

[1:19:53] that the public can understand

[1:19:56] where our dollars are are

[1:19:57] going.

[1:20:03] Just quickly just listening to

[1:20:03] public comment.

[1:20:09] Quite frankly, I do have

[1:20:09] concerns about this document,

[1:20:16] this effort as it is a

[1:20:16] resolution.

[1:20:17] It is I say an agreement

[1:20:20] between the council and mayor

[1:20:21] in regards to the simply

[1:20:21] communication.

[1:20:26] It does not have any true teeth

[1:20:27] in regards to when that

[1:20:32] agreement is not adhered to,

[1:20:33] whether it's the mayor or

[1:20:33] the council in regards to that.

[1:20:34] But I think the overall

[1:20:39] frustration quite honestly

[1:20:39] relates to our current system.

[1:20:44] And that's the stronger form of

[1:20:45] government.

[1:20:45] I think you are seeing just

[1:20:46] what was put in place, what

[1:20:50] those impacts are and what it

[1:20:51] means to be in a stronger

[1:20:51] system in that authority that

[1:20:56] the mayor has now.

[1:20:57] And so as we continue to move

[1:20:58] forward, that is one thing that

[1:21:01] will be on my mind as we

[1:21:02] continue to move forward and

[1:21:03] that is a discussion of strong

[1:21:08] mayor versus city manager form

[1:21:08] of government.

[1:21:09] So with that I'll begin.

[1:21:10] Thank you for the efforts on

[1:21:15] this item and I will move

[1:21:15] staff's recommendation.

[1:21:16] All right.

[1:21:16] Thank you sir.

[1:21:20] So we have a motion by Council

[1:21:20] member Foster to move the staff

[1:21:21] recommendation and we go next

[1:21:22] to Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

[1:21:26] Lee then council PRESIDENT And

[1:21:27] I will start by seconding

[1:21:32] the motion and maybe to thank

[1:21:32] Council Member Foster for

[1:21:33] the additions that he made to

[1:21:34] this year's budget principles

[1:21:34] In terms of some of

[1:21:37] the additional transparency but

[1:21:38] also to echo some of his

[1:21:39] comments I think these

[1:21:39] principles exist and only work

[1:21:44] as well as they do based on how

[1:21:45] both sides choose to adhere to

[1:21:50] it and how we work with each

[1:21:50] other.

[1:21:51] And I think we have seen in

[1:21:51] the last couple of years

[1:21:55] the limitations of that as well

[1:21:55] .

[1:21:56] And so I don't come in

[1:21:57] pretending like that's not

[1:21:57] the case but look forward to

[1:22:02] continuing to try to see how we

[1:22:03] can improve our communications

[1:22:03] and efforts across the board as

[1:22:10] we work towards another what I

[1:22:10] think is going to be expected

[1:22:11] to be a challenging budget

[1:22:11] year.

[1:22:12] So thank you Council present.

[1:22:14] All right.

[1:22:14] Thank you, sir.

[1:22:15] So we have a motion by Council

[1:22:16] member Foster in a second by

[1:22:19] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[1:22:20] to move the staff

[1:22:20] recommendation.

[1:22:21] I don't see anyone else on

[1:22:26] the lights or any hands up.

[1:22:27] I'll just add my thank you to

[1:22:28] Charles and the sergeant on

[1:22:31] the team for working on this

[1:22:32] year after year.

[1:22:32] You know perhaps we're getting

[1:22:37] more clarification that this is

[1:22:38] a statement of communication

[1:22:38] between the mayor and

[1:22:43] the council and unnecessary

[1:22:44] only translate to what

[1:22:45] the public MAY or MAY not need

[1:22:49] in understanding the budget

[1:22:49] process.

[1:22:50] And while some of us think

[1:22:51] the budget process is long and

[1:22:51] tedious drawn out, it actually

[1:22:57] moves pretty fast and it's hard

[1:22:57] to wrap your head around a

[1:23:00] thousand pages a budget and two

[1:23:01] plus 2 billion plus and all

[1:23:01] the different components of

[1:23:07] what we are as I have I want I

[1:23:08] want to really respond to some

[1:23:08] of the public comments but that

[1:23:13] really is not the item in front

[1:23:13] of us.

[1:23:14] I see the work continuing KPIs.

[1:23:15] I've never been a big fan but

[1:23:19] I'll respect those who do see

[1:23:24] those as valuable and continue

[1:23:25] to make to my commitment with

[1:23:26] my amazing staff to make sure

[1:23:30] that we'll do everything we can

[1:23:30] to dig into the budget,

[1:23:31] understand what

[1:23:31] the implications are.

[1:23:32] But as the budgetary principal

[1:23:36] say that when the Council

[1:23:37] adopts the budget that it is

[1:23:37] the mayor on the operation

[1:23:42] sides to carry it out and

[1:23:42] sometimes we find out things

[1:23:43] that we didn't appreciate or

[1:23:48] did not figure out what

[1:23:49] the implications were going

[1:23:49] forward as we saw happen in

[1:23:54] dramatic fashion this month.

[1:23:55] I'm glad we were able to even

[1:23:55] if it took us six weeks to get

[1:23:56] that taken care of.

[1:24:00] I think.

[1:24:01] Thank you Council member

[1:24:02] Campbell for that partnership

[1:24:02] so that we can always do

[1:24:03] better.

[1:24:05] We need to do better and have

[1:24:06] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[1:24:07] said that we will have another

[1:24:12] challenging budget ahead and

[1:24:13] I'll throw in a little final

[1:24:17] out Temecula sales tax is a

[1:24:18] full 1% higher than the city of

[1:24:21] San Diego's which would mean

[1:24:22] $400 Million if we have

[1:24:23] the same sales tax as the city

[1:24:29] of Temecula.

[1:24:29] Anyway, with that we have a

[1:24:30] motion by Councilmember Foster

[1:24:31] and a second by Council

[1:24:34] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move

[1:24:35] this off Recommendation City

[1:24:36] Clerk Please call them I'm

[1:24:36] sorry the voters and please

[1:24:42] cast your vote.

[1:24:43] Council Member Bond Wilford if

[1:24:43] I can get your vote for

[1:24:44] the record I vote yes And

[1:24:51] Council Member Campo Yes and

[1:24:52] that passes unanimously 9 to 0.

[1:24:52] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[1:24:53] right.

[1:24:53] Thank you.

[1:24:57] City Clerk Committee And thank

[1:24:58] you to the Office of the aba

[1:24:59] for the good work on that item

[1:24:59] With that clerk please

[1:25:03] introduce item to or what item

[1:25:04] to a one is the repeal of

[1:25:05] Measure c amending the People's

[1:25:05] Ordinance and associated

[1:25:08] amendments to the Standing on

[1:25:08] this bill code and Local

[1:25:09] coastal program.

[1:25:10] If you'd like to speak to this

[1:25:15] item please be sure to submit a

[1:25:15] Speaker's up to the front of

[1:25:16] the room or raise your hand by

[1:25:17] pressing Star nine the raise

[1:25:17] your hand icon I will Now that

[1:25:20] the public comment time for

[1:25:21] this will be two minutes so

[1:25:22] that you can be prepared and

[1:25:23] that no organized presentations

[1:25:23] were submitted Thank you

[1:25:26] Council PRESIDENT All right

[1:25:26] thank you.

[1:25:27] Realizing this is primarily a

[1:25:28] bookkeeping effort but

[1:25:31] nevertheless it's an important

[1:25:32] work in front of us staff

[1:25:33] Introduce yourselves for

[1:25:33] the record and let us know how

[1:25:37] much time you need for your

[1:25:38] presentation Just good

[1:25:38] afternoon.

[1:25:38] >> Thank you.

[1:25:43] Council PRESIDENT My name is

[1:25:44] Corey Funk and I am here with

[1:25:45] the with that I'm senior

[1:25:46] planner with the City Planning

[1:25:49] Department.

[1:25:49] We request five minutes for

[1:25:50] the presentation when you're

[1:25:55] ready.

[1:25:56] Okay.

[1:25:56] Thank you.

[1:25:56] Good afternoon.

[1:26:01] Members of the city council

[1:26:02] again, my name is Corey Funk,

[1:26:02] senior planner with City

[1:26:03] Planning Department Joining me

[1:26:07] today our planning director

[1:26:08] Heidi Van Bloom and deputy

[1:26:12] director Seth Whitney.

[1:26:13] The item before you today is

[1:26:14] for the repeal of Measure c

[1:26:18] amending a people's ordinance

[1:26:18] and associated amendments to

[1:26:19] San Diego Municipal Code and

[1:26:24] Local Coastal Program on

[1:26:31] NOVEMBER seventh, 1972, voters

[1:26:31] approved a citizens initiative

[1:26:32] that established the coastal

[1:26:36] height limit overlay zone.

[1:26:37] This initiative is also known

[1:26:38] as the People's Ordinance

[1:26:42] Number Oh Dash 10960.

[1:26:43] The coastal height limit

[1:26:43] overlay zone limits the height

[1:26:48] of buildings to 30ft for

[1:26:49] the area located generally

[1:26:53] within city limits And west of

[1:26:53] Interstate five on NOVEMBER

[1:26:58] 8th, 2022, Measure c was passed

[1:26:59] by a majority of the city of

[1:27:03] San Diego voters.

[1:27:04] The ballot measure amended

[1:27:05] the People's Ordinance and

[1:27:05] the coastal height limit

[1:27:06] overlay zone.

[1:27:10] The purpose of the measure was

[1:27:11] to exclude the Midway Pacific

[1:27:14] Highway Community Plan area

[1:27:15] from the 30 foot high limit

[1:27:20] Measure c was subsequently

[1:27:24] challenged through a lawsuit on

[1:27:25] OCTOBER 17th of 2025

[1:27:26] the California Court of Appeals

[1:27:31] ruled that the city needed to

[1:27:32] complete additional

[1:27:32] environmental review to study

[1:27:35] the impacts of buildings

[1:27:36] exceeding the 30 foot high

[1:27:37] limit On MARCH 12th of 2026,

[1:27:42] the San Diego Superior Court

[1:27:43] issued a writ of mandate

[1:27:43] directing the city to set aside

[1:27:48] the approvals for Measure c.

[1:27:49] This action is intended to

[1:27:54] comply with the court's writ of

[1:27:54] mandate.

[1:27:55] The action requested and would

[1:27:56] repeal the ordinance which

[1:28:00] submitted Measure c to the city

[1:28:01] voters and the associated

[1:28:01] amendments to the San Diego

[1:28:02] Municipal Code.

[1:28:06] There The repeal of Measure c

[1:28:07] means that the 30 foot high

[1:28:07] limit on buildings in

[1:28:08] the coastal high limit overlay

[1:28:11] zone remains in effect for

[1:28:12] the Midway Pacific Highway

[1:28:16] Community Plan Area.

[1:28:17] The request of staff is that

[1:28:18] City Council adopted ordinance

[1:28:23] to repeal ordinance number

[1:28:24] o-21508 which submitted Measure

[1:28:30] c to city voters and associate

[1:28:30] amendments related to

[1:28:31] the Coastal Highway overlay

[1:28:32] zone in the Midway Pacific

[1:28:38] Highway Community Plan Area.

[1:28:39] This concludes staff's

[1:28:39] presentation.

[1:28:40] We are available for questions.

[1:28:40] Thank you.

[1:28:44] All right.

[1:28:45] Thank you for the work on this

[1:28:45] bringing it forward and

[1:28:46] the presentation with that

[1:28:46] clerk.

[1:28:50] Please proceed with public

[1:28:51] comment on item 201 Thank you

[1:28:52] Council PRESIDENT Starting with

[1:28:56] Leslie Morgan if you can please

[1:28:56] come forward to the microphone

[1:28:57] and if I can have the following

[1:28:58] individuals in the front row.

[1:29:01] Angela better Joyce Senator

[1:29:07] Paul Krueger, Lori Saldana and

[1:29:08] allegedly Audra those are

[1:29:08] speakers here.

[1:29:09] Please proceed.

[1:29:09] Good afternoon.

[1:29:12] I'm Leslie Martin, executive

[1:29:13] director of San Diego Fair

[1:29:14] Housing Loud, an independent

[1:29:18] fair housing research and

[1:29:18] advocacy group working to

[1:29:19] expand fair housing access and

[1:29:20] homeownership opportunity

[1:29:23] across San Diego as high as

[1:29:24] three source neighborhoods.

[1:29:25] i know the council has no

[1:29:26] discretion on this item so my

[1:29:29] comments are purely for

[1:29:29] the record.

[1:29:30] In a JULY 15th, 2022 memo your

[1:29:35] own planning department wrote

[1:29:35] that the coastal height limit

[1:29:36] remains as a barrier to

[1:29:37] maximizing construction of

[1:29:40] homes and residential

[1:29:40] developments with restricted

[1:29:41] units.

[1:29:44] The memo sampled 13

[1:29:44] developments both inside

[1:29:48] the overlay zone since 2001 is

[1:29:49] only three stories.

[1:29:49] Just one has been restricted

[1:29:54] homes The Department recorded

[1:29:55] that barrier, never asked where

[1:29:55] the barrier falls or on whom So

[1:29:59] we did in our first report

[1:29:59] Coastal Opportunity and Housing

[1:30:04] Access in San Diego which

[1:30:05] publishes tomorrow.

[1:30:06] The city has had it since

[1:30:06] Friday If you doubt I you

[1:30:10] personally inside the coastal

[1:30:10] height limit 80% of census

[1:30:11] tracts are higher highest

[1:30:15] resource areas versus 54%

[1:30:16] citywide In the current housing

[1:30:20] cycle the overlay has only

[1:30:20] permitted 32.5 homes per

[1:30:21] thousand existing versus

[1:30:26] citywide 62% homes affordable

[1:30:29] below the original median two

[1:30:30] per thousand against 11 for

[1:30:30] the city.

[1:30:35] So that's half the citywide

[1:30:36] rate on housing of every kind

[1:30:36] and a fifth the citywide rate

[1:30:40] on affordable.

[1:30:40] Today a staff report concedes

[1:30:41] that this means less

[1:30:45] development It contains no

[1:30:46] federal housing analysis.

[1:30:47] A cap on building is not in

[1:30:50] neutral as static rule on

[1:30:51] the most valuable land in

[1:30:51] the city decides who gets to

[1:30:52] live there.

[1:30:54] Thank you very much.

[1:30:59] Thank you Angela Better.

[1:31:00] Hello When you repealed Measure

[1:31:04] c today as the court has

[1:31:05] ordered don't turn around and

[1:31:10] use the state density bonus law

[1:31:11] as a backdoor to accomplish

[1:31:15] the same thing Allowing midway

[1:31:15] rising to exceed 30 foot height

[1:31:16] limit.

[1:31:19] Now we have sb 958 and sb 344

[1:31:20] coming out of Sacramento

[1:31:24] creating yet another backdoor

[1:31:24] around the environmental

[1:31:25] review.

[1:31:29] This massive project is I'm

[1:31:30] really going to ask you to

[1:31:30] speak on Measure c There's

[1:31:33] plenty of opportunity to speak

[1:31:34] on that item but I know what

[1:31:39] you're saying.

[1:31:40] I understand it.

[1:31:41] I fully respect it and I would

[1:31:41] hope that it knowledge in a

[1:31:43] public comment you come and

[1:31:44] make that powerful statement

[1:31:45] but talk about whether or not

[1:31:48] we should repeal Measure c

[1:31:51] Thank you for that choice And

[1:32:00] yet if I'll try this one you

[1:32:04] notice I have no comments in my

[1:32:05] hand so I'm going to wing it on

[1:32:05] this one.

[1:32:09] I'll start with this is this

[1:32:14] little illegal voice or is this

[1:32:18] the voice of the people winning

[1:32:23] on this one And council member

[1:32:24] DR. Campbell I really support

[1:32:29] your position on this totally

[1:32:29] and I'm looking forward to

[1:32:33] hearing you speak.

[1:32:38] I think that we can go

[1:32:39] overboard on the environmental

[1:32:43] concerns and if you get me

[1:32:47] started on density you probably

[1:32:48] won't like me a lot of you

[1:32:52] because I love density Joy I

[1:32:53] have to be fair to everyone and

[1:32:58] we all do love you But speak to

[1:32:58] the whether we should rescind

[1:32:59] Measure c or not.

[1:33:02] You start talking about density

[1:33:03] and you love density.

[1:33:04] This is just a question of

[1:33:07] whether we should repeal

[1:33:08] the measure c which is a court

[1:33:12] order back on and I'll try

[1:33:12] again.

[1:33:16] Okay So I did look at you know

[1:33:21] glance at this very quickly So

[1:33:22] all I can say is that it seems

[1:33:26] like a legal thing that we're

[1:33:26] following that all we're doing

[1:33:31] is following the legal decision

[1:33:31] that was made in the court that

[1:33:36] we can't implement in Measure c

[1:33:41] as it was chosen by correct

[1:33:41] majority of the people.

[1:33:45] And that sort of shocks me and

[1:33:46] I don't really understand how

[1:33:51] these things can end up this

[1:33:51] way.

[1:33:56] So I appreciate sorry about

[1:33:56] that PRESIDENT LaCava And I

[1:33:57] really do appreciate when you

[1:34:01] take that stance on it not just

[1:34:02] for me but for everyone that I

[1:34:06] think that's the right way to

[1:34:06] go.

[1:34:07] Thank you.

[1:34:10] So I'll just say that I'm going

[1:34:11] to look forward to listening to

[1:34:16] council member DR. Campbell

[1:34:16] This is her Council District

[1:34:20] two item and I'll I'll go from

[1:34:21] there.

[1:34:25] So thank you and love to all

[1:34:26] Thank you Paul Krueger And I

[1:34:26] understand you have a

[1:34:31] presentation or images to share

[1:34:32] so staff will get those up for

[1:34:39] you.

[1:34:40] >> So I don't know where

[1:34:40] the music is coming because

[1:34:42] it's your walk up songs.

[1:34:43] >> I do appreciate that you

[1:34:44] bring a little levity in

[1:34:47] the chamber.

[1:34:47] There's another video coming in

[1:34:48] every time we share for some

[1:34:49] reason the audio sharing or

[1:34:53] that other video that's prepped

[1:34:53] but it's a nice walk up song.

[1:34:54] Please proceed.

[1:34:57] Can you zoom in on that a

[1:35:01] little bit to the circled area

[1:35:02] if possible?

[1:35:02] If not all I'll just explain.

[1:35:03] If not we'll print and share

[1:35:09] with the council as well.

[1:35:10] Back when you decided to appeal

[1:35:12] this measure is to the Supreme

[1:35:12] Court.

[1:35:13] Two of you voted against it.

[1:35:14] Raul Campo explained that he

[1:35:17] didn't think that your appeal

[1:35:18] would be successful and

[1:35:22] COUNCILWOMAN Moreno declined to

[1:35:22] offer to explain why she voted

[1:35:23] against it.

[1:35:26] But there's the bill from

[1:35:30] Everett Delano $446,000 he was

[1:35:31] awarded by he hasn't been

[1:35:32] awarded by the court.

[1:35:35] He submitted his fees and costs

[1:35:39] recently for his work on

[1:35:45] overturning Measure c.

[1:35:49] I'd like to say that I don't

[1:35:50] keep chipping away at

[1:35:54] Proposition d with issues like

[1:35:55] Measure c If you and your

[1:35:56] colleagues in the building

[1:35:59] industry and the labor unions

[1:36:04] don't like Proposition d, put

[1:36:04] it on the ballot, give

[1:36:08] the voters a chance to agree or

[1:36:13] disagree with your position

[1:36:14] that many of you have That

[1:36:15] measure d should be voided and

[1:36:18] that we should be approving

[1:36:23] items like Measure c do not

[1:36:23] take a piecemeal approach to

[1:36:25] this issue as you did with

[1:36:30] Measure c Most importantly what

[1:36:36] you did with Measure c was you

[1:36:36] put before voters an incomplete

[1:36:40] analysis by any means by a

[1:36:41] unanimous Supreme Court

[1:36:45] decision that by any means of

[1:36:46] interpretation deprived voters

[1:36:50] of the information that they

[1:36:50] needed to know to make a

[1:36:54] decision on measure c And you

[1:36:55] did it twice not you the city

[1:36:59] It wasn't I don't know

[1:37:00] the extent to which the council

[1:37:00] approved a supplemental each

[1:37:04] year but you did have a chance

[1:37:05] to take a position as Raul and

[1:37:08] Vivian did when it came before

[1:37:09] you to take it to the Supreme

[1:37:10] Court and you decided to do it

[1:37:10] anyway.

[1:37:12] Thank you for that Concluding

[1:37:12] comment.

[1:37:22] >> Lori Saldana So to continue

[1:37:23] on what was just said I agree

[1:37:23] that this was and I probably

[1:37:28] submitted the wrong slip I

[1:37:29] should have supported repealing

[1:37:32] c but not for simply reasons of

[1:37:33] height but also because frankly

[1:37:36] local coastal program will

[1:37:37] needs to recognize that rising

[1:37:41] sea level is causing inundation

[1:37:42] in this area.

[1:37:43] So if you were going to be

[1:37:46] honest with a consideration

[1:37:47] with an environmental impact

[1:37:49] report about building in

[1:37:54] the Midway area, I don't think

[1:37:59] you hit the mark on this And

[1:38:00] the hazards are many.

[1:38:00] This this area is not just a

[1:38:04] matter of building too high.

[1:38:05] It's a matter of having

[1:38:08] liquefaction underneath it and

[1:38:13] having an unsteady ground to

[1:38:13] build anything upon.

[1:38:14] So I'm sorry you repealing this

[1:38:17] at a time when there are bills

[1:38:18] going through the legislature

[1:38:19] and I know I'll be interrupted

[1:38:22] about that once again but it

[1:38:23] you're an engineer you know

[1:38:23] things are connected.

[1:38:24] You can't have one without

[1:38:27] the other And we can't have a

[1:38:28] repeal at the local level if

[1:38:31] there's push to approve and

[1:38:32] remove the height

[1:38:32] considerations at the state

[1:38:33] level.

[1:38:36] So when this comes before MR.

[1:38:37] Lee's committee in just a few

[1:38:41] weeks there's going to be a

[1:38:42] major contradiction.

[1:38:42] The council is repealed on

[1:38:43] the height but now the state is

[1:38:46] working on saying the height

[1:38:47] shouldn't be considered.

[1:38:51] So you're you're setting

[1:38:51] yourself into quite a quandary

[1:38:52] here And I don't know how

[1:38:56] you're going to figure this out

[1:38:56] .

[1:38:57] But what I do know if you go on

[1:38:58] to another image I've lost

[1:39:01] track of which images I've

[1:39:02] submitted here This is already

[1:39:02] happening in our coastal areas

[1:39:06] The sea level does not respond

[1:39:06] to legislation.

[1:39:07] So MR. Lee, when you look at

[1:39:11] this housing and land use,

[1:39:12] consider water use also because

[1:39:16] that is really what is at stake

[1:39:16] if you're going to build

[1:39:21] anything in these coastal areas

[1:39:21] .

[1:39:21] >> Thank you.

[1:39:22] Allegedly order you were doing

[1:39:26] so well you really nailed

[1:39:26] the testimony for repealing

[1:39:27] Measure c until right at

[1:39:32] the end.

[1:39:33] Obviously this is circumventing

[1:39:34] the will of the people because

[1:39:38] the people voted to have this

[1:39:39] be in place And it doesn't

[1:39:39] matter if a judge rules a

[1:39:43] certain way, it can still be

[1:39:43] illegal and it can still be

[1:39:44] something that you guys push

[1:39:47] back against because moving

[1:39:48] forward with this would be

[1:39:48] extremely negligent.

[1:39:52] There is a lot of issues that

[1:39:56] are not being addressed and no

[1:39:57] offense to other speakers but

[1:40:01] it's not that sea level is

[1:40:01] rising.

[1:40:02] It's going back to where it was

[1:40:06] at one time because California

[1:40:06] used to be an island

[1:40:07] technically and the water has

[1:40:11] been, you know, dammed up in

[1:40:12] different things And so it's

[1:40:13] just coming up to where it had

[1:40:16] been prior to all of that.

[1:40:17] And so to build on those types

[1:40:17] of things and have the height

[1:40:21] levels that are going to be

[1:40:22] extremely high and potentially

[1:40:26] I mean these things are going

[1:40:26] to be blocking even just

[1:40:27] the beach for some people but

[1:40:31] it's dangerous to build on

[1:40:32] marshlands like that when

[1:40:32] people claim that they are

[1:40:36] going to be able to, you know,

[1:40:37] deal with the weight of it so

[1:40:37] it wouldn't sink in.

[1:40:38] But I don't think that that's

[1:40:38] really true.

[1:40:40] I believe that these unions

[1:40:41] want the jobs and so they want

[1:40:45] to go in and build but and

[1:40:46] they're doing what their part

[1:40:46] is.

[1:40:47] But these engineers even though

[1:40:50] they're saying they're going to

[1:40:50] be putting posts down, it is

[1:40:51] still putting the potential

[1:40:55] danger of it being in like

[1:40:55] with quicksand.

[1:40:56] And so it's more of a public

[1:41:00] safety issue as opposed to

[1:41:01] anything else When you guys are

[1:41:04] doing stuff like this And I

[1:41:05] understand people want jobs and

[1:41:06] you guys want housing but you

[1:41:09] shouldn't be putting people in

[1:41:10] danger just to do it and

[1:41:10] repealing things that

[1:41:14] the people voted for.

[1:41:15] You say you represent

[1:41:15] the people so if you're going

[1:41:19] to repeal this then obviously

[1:41:20] you don't because you're going

[1:41:20] against what the will of

[1:41:24] the people was So I mean you

[1:41:25] guys need to really think about

[1:41:26] that If you if you claim to

[1:41:28] represent us then put your

[1:41:29] money where your mouth is and

[1:41:30] not just doing something

[1:41:34] because it's going to benefit

[1:41:34] construction.

[1:41:35] >> Thank you.

[1:41:35] That concludes your time.

[1:41:36] I'm sorry The five minute timer

[1:41:38] going to those participated

[1:41:39] remotely.

[1:41:39] Katherine Rhodes if you can

[1:41:42] please unmute you'll have two

[1:41:43] minutes.

[1:41:43] >> Wonderful.

[1:41:47] This is Katherine Rhodes and as

[1:41:48] most of you know I'm a civil

[1:41:48] engineer.

[1:41:51] I have problems regarding

[1:41:56] Midway Rising and the midway

[1:41:57] area due to my concerns

[1:42:01] regarding liquefaction,

[1:42:02] regarding groundwater

[1:42:03] intrusion, regarding the king

[1:42:07] tides for waters actually and

[1:42:08] sea level rise often we've

[1:42:09] already talked about that this

[1:42:12] is just a measure of c and

[1:42:13] whether we should repeal it or

[1:42:14] not write my agenda will give

[1:42:17] you an opportunity to speak on

[1:42:17] it.

[1:42:18] I gave people a little bit of

[1:42:21] leeway but let's just focus on

[1:42:26] Measure c and not on

[1:42:27] liquefaction or the ground

[1:42:27] conditions.

[1:42:28] Should we should we repeal

[1:42:31] measure c or not?

[1:42:32] >> Oh I'm talking about

[1:42:35] the reason why you have to

[1:42:36] repeal Measure c is regarding

[1:42:40] decision by the judge that told

[1:42:41] you that you guys did not

[1:42:45] analyze a whole bunch of

[1:42:46] things.

[1:42:50] >> One of the things that you

[1:42:51] you know the only thing that

[1:42:52] San Diego has regarding sea

[1:42:55] level rise is porous pavement

[1:42:56] That is your mitigation force

[1:43:00] for sea level rise that that is

[1:43:03] incomplete.

[1:43:09] Yes, of course you should This

[1:43:09] should go forward.

[1:43:10] It has to go forward.

[1:43:13] It's a law.

[1:43:14] It shouldn't have gone forward

[1:43:18] in the first place because one

[1:43:18] of the great things that

[1:43:19] the Port of San Diego used to

[1:43:23] have in their master plan is

[1:43:24] that there had to be two levels

[1:43:27] of underground parking or

[1:43:28] basement under every project in

[1:43:32] areas of let's look with viable

[1:43:33] soils and a great example of

[1:43:37] what to do in this area is

[1:43:38] the Navy Broadway complex or

[1:43:42] Manchester's Pacific Gateway.

[1:43:43] Another great example that that

[1:43:46] is used in San Diego is

[1:43:47] the County Administration

[1:43:52] Center building that has two

[1:43:52] levels of underground also

[1:43:53] where what you do is you

[1:43:56] actually get rid of

[1:43:56] the liquefaction.

[1:43:57] You guys don't even have any

[1:44:01] type of engineering standards.

[1:44:02] So yes, this is good to get rid

[1:44:03] of but you also have to have

[1:44:06] basic engineering Standard and

[1:44:07] Poor's pavement is not you know

[1:44:11] does not cut it.

[1:44:12] So you guys have a lot of work

[1:44:12] to do.

[1:44:16] Your time has concluded Just

[1:44:17] did anybody think it odd that I

[1:44:17] looked at the screen when I was

[1:44:18] talking to MISS Rhodes She's

[1:44:21] not up there.

[1:44:22] Jeff Tutor if you can please

[1:44:30] unmute Yeah, Thank you Counsel

[1:44:30] You know obviously we just want

[1:44:35] to be clear that the reason

[1:44:36] we're repealing probably a

[1:44:40] major c and restoring the high

[1:44:41] limit is so we can exceed it by

[1:44:44] other means which is either

[1:44:45] going to happen to

[1:44:49] the legislature or you know by

[1:44:50] state law I just you know we

[1:44:55] just need to be up front.

[1:44:55] The goal here isn't really to

[1:44:58] protect the height limit.

[1:44:59] >> It's really to protect this

[1:45:00] Midway Rising project.

[1:45:03] Thank you.

[1:45:03] >> Next is Blaire Beekman if

[1:45:04] you can please.

[1:45:08] And you.

[1:45:08] All right.

[1:45:09] Thank you.

[1:45:09] We're Beekman to weigh in on

[1:45:13] the measure c issue and its

[1:45:13] judgment I'm assuming from

[1:45:18] Katherine's words words that

[1:45:19] the judge he had many items

[1:45:22] that he was addressing and why

[1:45:23] he he made the decision that he

[1:45:26] did possibly very much included

[1:45:27] in that is the idea of sea

[1:45:28] level rise issues that I think

[1:45:32] has to be a part of the future

[1:45:33] of this conversation and that

[1:45:33] you guys are working on it on

[1:45:37] the state level you have a

[1:45:37] vested interest to not talk

[1:45:38] about sea level rise issue and

[1:45:42] I hope that and when this item

[1:45:42] comes up at council person

[1:45:46] leave meeting in the future

[1:45:47] that we can be allowed to have

[1:45:47] a more open conversation.

[1:45:50] I feel our current PRESIDENT Is

[1:45:51] is being a little too narrow in

[1:45:52] his definitions how we can talk

[1:45:55] about this issue.

[1:45:56] There is sea level rise that we

[1:45:56] have to be able to talk about

[1:46:00] more openly and clearly for

[1:46:01] the future of this area.

[1:46:01] It's an important conversation.

[1:46:05] It needs to be open and not

[1:46:06] just for this item but for our

[1:46:07] environmental future of San

[1:46:09] Diego how we address our issue

[1:46:10] as well.

[1:46:11] So good luck how we work on

[1:46:11] this issue together.

[1:46:11] Thank you.

[1:46:14] An open Thank you John If you

[1:46:24] can please unmute and and John

[1:46:25] Brady lives experience advisors

[1:46:28] I am calling in because I think

[1:46:29] that the intent of this measure

[1:46:29] was to remove the height limit

[1:46:33] in areas that were not

[1:46:33] necessarily beach adjacent and

[1:46:38] and completely made sense as to

[1:46:39] the legal I can't address but I

[1:46:43] think the intent was you know

[1:46:47] this is clearly not a near

[1:46:48] beach area even though it's

[1:46:48] near marshland.

[1:46:52] I really struggle with the fact

[1:46:53] that we would not be able to

[1:46:54] build in what is clearly semi

[1:46:57] industrial area.

[1:46:58] So I would vote against

[1:47:05] repealing Measure c thank you

[1:47:06] next 27499 if you can please

[1:47:11] unmute.

[1:47:16] Bob Kozinski here.

[1:47:17] I just want to express my

[1:47:17] disgust of Joe LaCava

[1:47:20] demonstrating his disregard for

[1:47:21] the public by repeatedly

[1:47:21] cutting people off.

[1:47:22] >> Thank you.

[1:47:25] Coming No Vega If you can

[1:47:29] please unmute regarding

[1:47:30] the Vega district eight I

[1:47:34] didn't do as much research

[1:47:34] necessarily on this but I did

[1:47:38] want to just point out that

[1:47:38] something that someone said in

[1:47:39] person that just because

[1:47:40] something is legal doesn't mean

[1:47:43] it's right but definitely

[1:47:48] trying to consider who is going

[1:47:48] to be most affected by this

[1:47:53] based on the areas where Well

[1:47:58] will this will affect Thank

[1:47:58] you.

[1:47:59] >> Thank you Then Amanda, if

[1:48:02] you can please unmute.

[1:48:07] >> Hi, Good afternoon City

[1:48:07] Council.

[1:48:08] >> Welcome back.

[1:48:12] And so I take a few minutes

[1:48:13] this morning to look through

[1:48:17] ruling from the Superior Court

[1:48:17] because I really wasn't

[1:48:18] familiar with the whole court

[1:48:22] process about Measure c And so

[1:48:26] from what I understand is that

[1:48:27] you guys put a dangerous

[1:48:32] measure on for up for a vote

[1:48:36] without considering

[1:48:37] the important environmental

[1:48:37] impacts.

[1:48:38] I'm going to read from

[1:48:41] the court ruling We will

[1:48:41] reverse an agency's

[1:48:42] determination regarding school

[1:48:46] compliance only where there was

[1:48:46] a prejudicial abuse of

[1:48:50] discretion applying

[1:48:51] the environmental impact

[1:48:51] reports at ground water levels

[1:48:55] which are expected to be near

[1:48:56] sea level throughout most of

[1:48:57] the Midway Pacific Highway area

[1:49:00] can result in response to

[1:49:01] changes in precipitation and

[1:49:01] runoff.

[1:49:05] As a result, the environment

[1:49:06] Impact report recognized most

[1:49:07] of the Midway Pacific Highway

[1:49:10] area has a high potential for

[1:49:11] liquefaction because the area

[1:49:16] has shallow groundwater or

[1:49:16] major drain drainages and

[1:49:20] hydraulic spills.

[1:49:21] I'm really disappointed that

[1:49:22] and again I know we need more

[1:49:25] housing.

[1:49:26] We need more affordable

[1:49:26] housing.

[1:49:27] We don't need any more luxury

[1:49:27] housing.

[1:49:30] We have quite enough of that.

[1:49:31] But I just wanted to say that

[1:49:31] I'm really disappointed that

[1:49:34] this ever got put up for a vote

[1:49:35] and that you guys were

[1:49:36] practicing prejudicial

[1:49:40] prejudicial abuse of discretion

[1:49:40] and lying to the voters.

[1:49:41] That's all.

[1:49:44] Thanks.

[1:49:44] Thank you.

[1:49:45] That does conclude public

[1:49:46] comment on this item.

[1:49:49] All right.

[1:49:49] >> Thank you city Clerk And

[1:49:54] thank you to the comments.

[1:49:54] If anyone is curious about my

[1:49:56] feelings about the course I'll

[1:50:01] limit and Sacramento's

[1:50:05] intrusion on local land use

[1:50:05] authority.

[1:50:06] I think I've been pretty

[1:50:10] eloquent on that But there's

[1:50:11] also going to be an opportunity

[1:50:11] to speak on some of the issues

[1:50:15] that I think is pent up in this

[1:50:16] chambers on non agenda public

[1:50:17] comment and of course on

[1:50:20] project specific opportunities

[1:50:20] .

[1:50:21] So I look forward to hearing

[1:50:25] from you And with that we'll

[1:50:25] turn over to the Council for

[1:50:26] questions comments entertain a

[1:50:30] motion and we'll start out with

[1:50:30] the council member representing

[1:50:31] District two which is where

[1:50:31] Midway is located.

[1:50:34] Council member Kim Thank you.

[1:50:39] >> Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[1:50:39] guys for the presentation.

[1:50:40] I think we're all a little bit

[1:50:44] sad those of us who are

[1:50:44] interested in making

[1:50:47] the biggest housing development

[1:50:48] in one place that the state has

[1:50:52] seen including half the living

[1:50:53] arrangements being affordable.

[1:50:56] However, the court has ruled

[1:50:57] and we have exhausted all legal

[1:51:02] appeals Our case was not taken

[1:51:02] by the Supreme Court and so

[1:51:03] we're stuck with what

[1:51:07] the superior Court ruled and we

[1:51:07] must abide by the court's writ

[1:51:12] of mandate because we believe

[1:51:12] in following the law and

[1:51:16] because of the writ of mandate

[1:51:17] which says we must remove this

[1:51:17] language from the municipal

[1:51:22] code by amending Measure c with

[1:51:22] this amendment the only effect

[1:51:26] our Midwood District we must do

[1:51:27] it and if we don't we will be

[1:51:31] in contempt of court.

[1:51:32] And when we're in contempt of

[1:51:33] court we open the city to

[1:51:36] tremendous numbers of fines

[1:51:37] which we can ill afford and

[1:51:41] besides which is good citizens

[1:51:42] who even disagree with

[1:51:42] the court.

[1:51:47] We still think that we must

[1:51:47] follow the court's orders

[1:51:48] because that is the law And so

[1:51:51] therefore I move the staff

[1:51:52] recommendation to do so as

[1:51:56] ordered by the court and I so

[1:51:57] move.

[1:51:57] >> Thank you.

[1:51:58] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[1:51:58] Thank you Council members.

[1:52:01] So we have a motion by Council

[1:52:02] member Campbell to move

[1:52:02] the staff recommendation

[1:52:05] Nothing He went on the lights.

[1:52:06] I'm happy to second that motion

[1:52:08] again not see anybody else in

[1:52:13] the lights call a vote.

[1:52:14] We have a motion by council

[1:52:15] member Campbell and the second

[1:52:18] by myself I started the voting

[1:52:19] system Council member Von

[1:52:23] Wilber Please register your

[1:52:24] vote orally I vote yes.

[1:52:27] >> Council member can you

[1:52:28] please register your vote

[1:52:28] early?

[1:52:32] Yes.

[1:52:33] And that passes unanimously.

[1:52:42] All right.

[1:52:43] >> Yeah.

[1:52:44] Thank you for out for this

[1:52:47] bookkeeping item.

[1:52:48] I appreciate the work.

[1:52:48] So with that we will now take

[1:52:53] up non agenda public comment.

[1:52:53] This is the opportunity to go

[1:52:54] big on whatever you want within

[1:52:57] the city's purview.

[1:52:58] Council members respect and

[1:52:58] appreciate the public input and

[1:52:59] are fully committed to

[1:53:02] protecting every participant's

[1:53:03] free speech rights at council

[1:53:04] and committee meetings.

[1:53:07] Clerk Please proceed with non

[1:53:08] agenda Public Comment Thank you

[1:53:13] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 Non

[1:53:13] Agenda Public comment is an

[1:53:14] opportunity for members of

[1:53:15] the public to comment items

[1:53:17] that are not on the agenda but

[1:53:18] within the subject matter

[1:53:18] jurisdiction of the City

[1:53:19] Council As the Council

[1:53:22] PRESIDENT Just noted each each

[1:53:23] public member will have two

[1:53:26] minutes to speak.

[1:53:27] If there are eight or more

[1:53:28] speakers on a single topic

[1:53:28] the maximum time for the topic

[1:53:30] will be 16 minutes.

[1:53:31] If you are in chambers please

[1:53:31] submit your speaker slip.

[1:53:32] If you're joining us virtually

[1:53:35] please raise your hand to speak

[1:53:36] by tapping the raise your hand

[1:53:37] icon or if you're a call

[1:53:39] participant The Star nine We're

[1:53:40] starting with those here in

[1:53:44] chambers starting with Jeff

[1:53:45] Bartlett.

[1:53:45] Please come up to

[1:53:46] the microphone.

[1:53:51] After that we'll have Charlene

[1:53:52] Antonio, Antonino Alto, Lino,

[1:53:55] Lori Saldana, Joyce Kenyatta

[1:53:56] and Irene Ramirez.

[1:54:00] Please proceed.

[1:54:01] >> All righty.

[1:54:01] All right.

[1:54:02] My name is Jeff Bartlett.

[1:54:05] i reside down in Tijuana.

[1:54:06] I do commute across the border

[1:54:07] to work security out here in

[1:54:11] downtown San Diego.

[1:54:12] I'm in a leadership supervisor

[1:54:12] position out here and I'm going

[1:54:17] to address some concerns I have

[1:54:17] about how sd pd responds.

[1:54:22] I mean we have the lack of

[1:54:23] community policing out here

[1:54:27] long sd pd response times I can

[1:54:28] go an entire shift without them

[1:54:29] showing up and dispatchers can

[1:54:33] get kind of unprofessional at

[1:54:33] times.

[1:54:34] I don't like how the city

[1:54:38] police will send the entire

[1:54:39] squad out to arrest like one

[1:54:39] unarmed person but then they

[1:54:40] don't show up when I call them

[1:54:44] in for something in other

[1:54:45] states sometimes you might only

[1:54:45] need 1 or 2 officers to arrest

[1:54:49] someone.

[1:54:50] Also I think we need a better

[1:54:51] system to report crimes instead

[1:54:56] of your online system to report

[1:54:56] crimes because that's limited.

[1:55:01] So if you don't know the person

[1:55:02] I think San Diego clean and

[1:55:02] safe has a system where you

[1:55:03] know you can take a picture and

[1:55:07] report things maybe the city

[1:55:08] police should adopt something

[1:55:08] like that.

[1:55:13] But I running low on time here

[1:55:14] But I do want to point a few

[1:55:14] things.

[1:55:15] I think we need some dui

[1:55:18] checkpoints on Fourth Avenue

[1:55:19] where Gaslamp Quarter is

[1:55:20] especially near large parking

[1:55:25] garages.

[1:55:26] I think we need to crack down

[1:55:26] on the drugs in the city.

[1:55:31] I mean trolley stops like Fifth

[1:55:32] Avenue and 12 in Imperial even

[1:55:37] here at Civic Center you have

[1:55:37] people hanging out using drugs

[1:55:38] near the trolleys.

[1:55:42] i think the city needs to crack

[1:55:43] down on the drugs in this city

[1:55:44] and we need to also find

[1:55:49] resources to assist and help

[1:55:50] our homeless people so they're

[1:55:51] not getting arrested and then

[1:55:54] coming back out on the streets

[1:55:55] ,find ways to rehabilitate

[1:55:56] them And I am running low on

[1:55:56] time So thank you for

[1:55:59] the opportunity to speak.

[1:56:00] Thank you.

[1:56:06] Next is Charlie.

[1:56:07] Good afternoon.

[1:56:12] My name is Charlene El and I am

[1:56:13] here on behalf of the San Diego

[1:56:14] Committee on Employment of

[1:56:14] People with Disabilities.

[1:56:18] I am the chair and ceo.

[1:56:19] Each OCTOBER our committee

[1:56:19] hosted OCTOBER 1st one of

[1:56:20] the largest disability focused

[1:56:25] job bears in California serving

[1:56:29] up to 1500 job seekers annually

[1:56:30] For the past 27 years this

[1:56:31] event has connected individuals

[1:56:31] with disabilities to employment

[1:56:36] opportunities and economic

[1:56:36] independence which remains

[1:56:37] especially important giving

[1:56:41] the disproportionate high

[1:56:42] unemployment rate with

[1:56:42] the disability community.

[1:56:43] For the last 20 years we have

[1:56:48] been honored to hold you

[1:56:49] OCTOBER 1st at the Balboa Park

[1:56:50] Club and we are deeply grateful

[1:56:54] to the City of San Diego for

[1:56:54] its longstanding partnership

[1:56:55] and generosity in providing

[1:56:55] this venue.

[1:56:56] While we sincerely appreciate

[1:56:59] the city support, we

[1:57:00] respectfully ask the Council to

[1:57:01] consider the intended impact

[1:57:06] that recently implemented

[1:57:06] parking fees in Balboa Park MAY

[1:57:07] have on attendance this event

[1:57:11] this year Many city residents

[1:57:12] with disabilities MAY not have

[1:57:16] had an opportunity or ability

[1:57:17] to register in advance for

[1:57:18] the resident parking waiver

[1:57:18] program.

[1:57:19] I can also share that we have

[1:57:23] received reports from community

[1:57:24] members that the parking waiver

[1:57:24] registration process can be

[1:57:29] difficult to navigate even with

[1:57:29] eligible city residents

[1:57:30] Challenges with obtaining

[1:57:30] information completing

[1:57:35] the process and sharing

[1:57:36] the waiver registration process

[1:57:37] can be difficult to navigate.

[1:57:37] So I see I'm running out of

[1:57:42] time and we have contacted city

[1:57:42] council members.

[1:57:43] We have contacted the mayor's

[1:57:49] office and this is going to be

[1:57:49] a challenge in OCTOBER on

[1:57:50] the seventh for people with

[1:57:50] disabilities.

[1:57:54] So we have typically 75

[1:57:58] employers, 60 volunteers and

[1:57:59] upwards of 1500 job seekers And

[1:58:00] again most of our job seekers

[1:58:00] don't have physical

[1:58:05] disabilities but mental and

[1:58:05] intellectual disabilities which

[1:58:06] will affect them with

[1:58:10] the parking.

[1:58:11] Larry Saldana If you can please

[1:58:12] come forward I understand you

[1:58:17] have some materials to share.

[1:58:17] Thank you.

[1:58:18] So now I think we can

[1:58:22] unencumbered discuss

[1:58:22] the challenge of sea level rise

[1:58:23] in our coastal areas and in

[1:58:29] particular one that is being

[1:58:29] scheduled or being discussed as

[1:58:35] dense high housing.

[1:58:36] If that does come before a

[1:58:37] council committee I hope that

[1:58:37] you can go to the next slide

[1:58:40] please.

[1:58:41] You will take into account what

[1:58:42] other cities are doing to

[1:58:47] combat the tide That is

[1:58:47] overwhelming our infrastructure

[1:58:48] as we speak.

[1:58:48] This is not a future

[1:58:52] consideration and this is only

[1:58:53] the words that we see on

[1:58:54] the surface What is happening

[1:58:54] below ground is even more

[1:58:58] troubling and more challenging

[1:58:59] when it comes to adding housing

[1:58:59] to the coastal areas.

[1:59:00] The Storm Stormwater Department

[1:59:05] is aware of this.

[1:59:05] They have gone out and welded

[1:59:06] the storm water covered sheet

[1:59:07] and the pressure of

[1:59:10] the incoming tide is still

[1:59:11] getting out because the sea

[1:59:11] level rise is exceeding

[1:59:17] the height of the storm water

[1:59:17] system.

[1:59:18] And I know you're getting a

[1:59:19] report on that very soon as we

[1:59:22] go on to the next images.

[1:59:22] Saltwater is extremely

[1:59:23] corrosive.

[1:59:29] It is destroying you can see

[1:59:29] the really rough surface of

[1:59:30] the streets.

[1:59:30] This is the end of Mission

[1:59:34] Boulevard And again, this is

[1:59:35] only what you see on

[1:59:35] the surface.

[1:59:36] What's going on below surface

[1:59:40] is in the case of Mission Beach

[1:59:40] their sewage and wastewater

[1:59:41] system is at serious repair or

[1:59:46] needs serious repairs.

[1:59:46] Next slide please.

[1:59:47] And just for standing water it

[1:59:47] gets quite deep.

[1:59:52] Next slide.

[1:59:53] And I guess I.

[1:59:54] I submitted several things I

[1:59:58] don't recall exactly which ones

[1:59:58] but I am repeating this because

[1:59:59] I don't think that it is being

[2:00:00] taken seriously enough.

[2:00:04] I realize you were preparing

[2:00:05] for El Nino.

[2:00:05] You were talking about storm

[2:00:06] water.

[2:00:06] This is not storm water.

[2:00:10] This is simply high water in

[2:00:11] the ground that is going to

[2:00:12] continue to rise with the sea

[2:00:12] level.

[2:00:17] We need to learn from Rotterdam

[2:00:17] and other coastal cities and I

[2:00:18] will continue to come back and

[2:00:21] introduce that in the future.

[2:00:21] >> Thank you.

[2:00:22] Thank you, Joyce.

[2:00:27] Again, it first of all I

[2:00:34] support San Diego Police

[2:00:34] Department's work to keep our

[2:00:35] people safe and the results are

[2:00:39] in.

[2:00:40] Crime continues to decrease and

[2:00:46] keep our beautiful city at

[2:00:47] the top of the list as one of

[2:00:47] the safest cities.

[2:00:52] Dear Public I'm sure some of

[2:00:53] you have read this past

[2:00:58] Monday's usa Today front page

[2:01:04] article on flock safety.

[2:01:05] After reading it I spent about

[2:01:05] two hours Googling information

[2:01:09] on Flock safety With the large

[2:01:10] outpouring of public concern

[2:01:16] about the use of this

[2:01:17] technology like safety has made

[2:01:22] the necessary changes to help

[2:01:22] people feel more comfortable

[2:01:23] and safe as as the people move

[2:01:28] around living their lives.

[2:01:29] Our whole nation is affected by

[2:01:34] these changes and the federal

[2:01:35] government has stated it will

[2:01:35] come forward soon with its

[2:01:40] position on the use of this

[2:01:41] surveillance technology.

[2:01:42] A big thank you to Keith Wall

[2:01:46] and all others for the JULY

[2:01:47] 27th excuse me JULY 22nd public

[2:01:52] meeting on this matter and for

[2:01:53] public input Also online until

[2:01:58] JANUARY till JULY 29th.

[2:01:59] Again I support sd pd and their

[2:02:04] use of this technology.

[2:02:05] Our trust ordinance is working

[2:02:06] and with a robust conversation

[2:02:11] on this important matter.

[2:02:12] Dear Public Trust Trust will

[2:02:18] win.

[2:02:18] One people One family one San

[2:02:19] Diego.

[2:02:20] Love to all this Been a great

[2:02:24] day.

[2:02:24] >> Welcome back, everybody.

[2:02:25] Thank you.

[2:02:31] Irene Ramirez is a second

[2:02:31] assistant here on location and

[2:02:38] that is Cortez.

[2:02:39] We're impressed about

[2:02:39] the timing of those those

[2:02:41] comments.

[2:02:49] We know and what they will

[2:02:50] because they are key.

[2:02:50] They can be read into your

[2:02:52] table.

[2:02:53] The reason that I'm here is a

[2:02:54] little bit different than what

[2:03:01] I thought.

[2:03:01] Meramec have portion this year

[2:03:02] an opportunity though they have

[2:03:04] a lot of they looking for

[2:03:05] things.

[2:03:05] But I stayed because I was told

[2:03:06] I have the opportunity to speak

[2:03:13] about what is before what I

[2:03:14] want to speak about.

[2:03:14] If any the problem of up

[2:03:18] tomorrow I will lay low.

[2:03:19] I've been having several

[2:03:19] problems with my invoices for

[2:03:23] my water bill.

[2:03:23] They are what I'm doing.

[2:03:30] And with the doubling of water

[2:03:30] as well.

[2:03:31] Okay.

[2:03:36] And I will not let them go.

[2:03:36] They'll be 23.

[2:03:37] The other thing we want to do

[2:03:40] the meals budget.

[2:03:41] The first one is with

[2:03:42] the property that I have that's

[2:03:45] a duplex that I received in

[2:03:46] 2023 an invoice for $1,068 or

[2:03:52] lengthy phase that will help

[2:03:56] them for their metering take

[2:03:57] courtroom.

[2:03:57] And then last month I received

[2:04:03] another invoice for the same

[2:04:04] property for 1034 and can

[2:04:07] always ask for us and can send

[2:04:13] me that.

[2:04:13] I don't see the reason of why

[2:04:14] these two different invoices

[2:04:15] give us losses on them Looking

[2:04:19] at those dollars Million that

[2:04:23] both of them are coming out to

[2:04:24] 1500 the two different invoices

[2:04:25] are half a year Tambi\n Antonio

[2:04:31] Campbell's fha the De la

[2:04:31] Factotum yacht any of the as

[2:04:32] you know having a color

[2:04:42] populated in our to the upper

[2:04:42] middle and then the invoice

[2:04:43] dates are changing as well they

[2:04:45] used to be the 18th and 19th of

[2:04:45] each month and now they're

[2:04:46] the 30th and first of each

[2:04:46] month.

[2:04:50] I'm not sure when they change

[2:04:51] your why you're not away I

[2:05:01] would guess your well you know

[2:05:05] they get on us a lot of them on

[2:05:06] end of the year if we could get

[2:05:11] them really so much on me this

[2:05:12] the like Brazil and then I

[2:05:13] don't it seems to me that

[2:05:14] the water billing is a bit

[2:05:14] dysfunctional because of so

[2:05:15] many changes from bill to Bill

[2:05:19] and in the property where I

[2:05:19] live in the change in water

[2:05:20] bill changes quite frequently

[2:05:21] and they are looking at it

[2:05:25] because I have a lot of issues

[2:05:26] where I sometimes have high

[2:05:26] water pressure and sometimes I

[2:05:34] have little to no water

[2:05:34] pressure on my property your

[2:05:35] property angle problem and that

[2:05:36] in order to have it be

[2:05:37] amplified or you know and then

[2:05:38] go back and put pressure on

[2:05:43] them which I me to be the last

[2:05:44] people And then I've had a lot

[2:05:45] of problems with my water

[2:05:45] meters and that with the water

[2:05:49] pressure that comes in and even

[2:05:50] explode some of my pipes are

[2:05:57] stuck and nobody intended to

[2:06:03] correct me in our you think a

[2:06:07] little on our solar panel

[2:06:08] services telling us they tell

[2:06:08] me that they finally found

[2:06:09] the problem but they still

[2:06:12] haven't been able to come out

[2:06:13] and fix it And now they're

[2:06:13] still having issues with

[2:06:14] the water pressure and that is

[2:06:18] changing the bill cycles and

[2:06:19] the amount of the bill that's

[2:06:28] being paid are charged.

[2:06:28] So yeah.

[2:06:31] MR. Cochran Bill, our now these

[2:06:32] last two they are finally

[2:06:33] starting to charge me water for

[2:06:40] the use cabana I started out on

[2:06:41] the house because I maybe

[2:06:42] because they said that they

[2:06:43] weren't going to start charging

[2:06:43] me until they started making

[2:06:44] the adjustments necessary to my

[2:06:48] house because if if I don't do

[2:06:49] I want to show you.

[2:06:50] But that's not true because I

[2:06:53] have been paying water the last

[2:06:53] two months.

[2:06:53] Okay.

[2:07:04] And so people see that we now

[2:07:05] see what that is going to be

[2:07:06] And my comment is that but it

[2:07:07] that it must be a plan

[2:07:10] approximate using a manyama or

[2:07:11] it's criminal what is a little

[2:07:16] better and multiple Yeah he got

[2:07:16] his but also he said he also

[2:07:22] can put that away in the bills

[2:07:22] he's like a little thing but

[2:07:24] almost enables me not this this

[2:07:25] and I'm again going to the next

[2:07:27] speaker Anthony Ross after

[2:07:27] Anthony Ralph says Angela

[2:07:31] better and after Angela better

[2:07:32] is Paul Kruger If you can all

[2:07:33] please come up to the front

[2:07:44] room I think we know who

[2:07:50] the bad guy is now but I think

[2:07:51] what the whole world wants to

[2:07:51] know is who wants to be

[2:07:56] the good guy?

[2:07:57] My phone has been blowing up

[2:07:57] off the hook.

[2:07:58] I'm being interviewed this

[2:07:58] morning.

[2:08:01] I was interviewed twice by four

[2:08:01] more media and by The Daily

[2:08:02] Wire.

[2:08:07] I have a request to be

[2:08:07] interviewed this entire week

[2:08:08] And what I would like to ask is

[2:08:09] of the five council members

[2:08:12] that voted for Flock, when will

[2:08:13] this end?

[2:08:13] When will you listen to

[2:08:14] the vast majority of your

[2:08:14] constituents?

[2:08:15] When will you respect

[2:08:19] the Constitution that you swore

[2:08:19] an oath to defend?

[2:08:20] When will you respect our

[2:08:23] privacy rights that are

[2:08:24] enshrined in the Fourth

[2:08:24] Amendment?

[2:08:25] These are non-negotiables.

[2:08:25] It should not have had to come

[2:08:26] to this.

[2:08:29] I came respectfully.

[2:08:30] I presented my position

[2:08:30] respectfully with hundreds of

[2:08:31] other organizations that

[2:08:35] expressed the exact same

[2:08:36] sentiment that I'm expressing

[2:08:37] before you now I should not

[2:08:37] have had to wear this Darth

[2:08:41] Vader outfit in order to get

[2:08:42] your attention in order to

[2:08:42] raise global awareness about

[2:08:43] this issue.

[2:08:47] But now that I have I'm glad

[2:08:48] I'm glad that this is going

[2:08:48] viral.

[2:08:49] I'm glad that this is now a

[2:08:52] viral conversation that

[2:08:53] the whole world is happening

[2:08:53] because now this is an

[2:08:54] opportunity for you to see This

[2:08:57] is an opportunity for you to

[2:08:58] continue your political careers

[2:08:58] if you still want them.

[2:08:59] There is nothing that is

[2:09:03] uniting the right and the left

[2:09:04] faster than our disdain for

[2:09:05] this Orwellian surveillance

[2:09:09] technology.

[2:09:09] That's abundantly clear by

[2:09:10] the fact that I could wear this

[2:09:11] costume once and it could go

[2:09:15] globally viral be picked up by

[2:09:16] cnn Washington Post I've seen

[2:09:16] this I've seen my video

[2:09:17] translated in Arabic.

[2:09:20] I've seen it translated in

[2:09:21] Spanish that showcases that

[2:09:21] should demonstrate to all of

[2:09:22] you who couldn't read the room

[2:09:26] when the vast majority of your

[2:09:27] constituents were opposed to

[2:09:27] flock that the world is against

[2:09:31] flock, that the world is

[2:09:32] against being surveilled, that

[2:09:32] we understand that poverty is a

[2:09:37] symptom of rampant inequality

[2:09:38] that billionaires not paying

[2:09:38] their taxes are the ones that

[2:09:43] approve this technology

[2:09:43] Billionaires, boomers, cops and

[2:09:44] fascists and those that don't

[2:09:48] respect the Constitution are

[2:09:49] the only ones that want Angela

[2:09:53] better.

[2:09:59] Hi I want to say I'm really sad

[2:09:59] that I was cut off earlier

[2:10:00] because when I was talking

[2:10:04] about and if you would have let

[2:10:05] me finish it would have gotten

[2:10:06] to the point where, you know,

[2:10:10] Measure c was about the 30 foot

[2:10:10] height limit and repealing

[2:10:11] that.

[2:10:14] >> But anyway I'll start here

[2:10:20] sb 344 Okay.

[2:10:24] Sb 344 is a bill that is going

[2:10:32] through Sacramento that that

[2:10:37] Senator Weber Pearson has

[2:10:42] decided to get and change it to

[2:10:43] Midway Rising and sequel And

[2:10:46] you know it was about human

[2:10:47] remains dispose of human

[2:10:48] remains so to me that just

[2:10:52] that's like taking a shirt that

[2:10:53] you see at a store and saying I

[2:10:58] don't like the price so I am

[2:10:58] going to remove that price tag

[2:11:02] and switch it for something

[2:11:02] that's on sale.

[2:11:03] >> The other thing is that you

[2:11:07] know, as a physician she should

[2:11:08] understand why, you know, just

[2:11:13] like all of you that you don't

[2:11:13] decide a patient's outcome

[2:11:17] first and then eliminate tests

[2:11:17] that might reveal something

[2:11:22] that you don't want to hear And

[2:11:22] just because there's

[2:11:23] legislature that allows that to

[2:11:26] happen doesn't mean it's right

[2:11:26] .

[2:11:27] >> So I just want to say, you

[2:11:28] know, traffic emergency

[2:11:31] response infrastructure, air

[2:11:32] quality, you know, other

[2:11:37] impacts, you know, they just

[2:11:38] don't disappear because

[2:11:42] Sacramento Bill says that needs

[2:11:42] to.

[2:11:43] >> So I hope you don't find

[2:11:44] another way to eliminate the 30

[2:11:47] foot height limit and you know

[2:11:52] respect the San Diego residents

[2:11:52] because ultimately the voters

[2:11:55] are the ones that put all of

[2:11:55] you out there.

[2:11:59] Thank you.

[2:12:00] >> Paul Kruger, if you can

[2:12:08] please come up.

[2:12:09] Thank you.

[2:12:13] First I like to say speaking on

[2:12:14] behalf of the non billionaire

[2:12:23] non fascists but boomers I did

[2:12:23] support Floc I do support Floc

[2:12:27] It's a tough call but you all

[2:12:28] know there's another side out

[2:12:32] there Also Council PRESIDENT I.

[2:12:37] I will always remember the very

[2:12:37] powerful comments you and Raul

[2:12:41] Campo gave about

[2:12:42] the construction of the eight

[2:12:46] storey project on Coronet near

[2:12:47] Mission MAY Drive That's going

[2:12:51] up now that again the issue is

[2:12:52] not whether or not we need

[2:12:52] the housing.

[2:12:56] The issue is whether or not

[2:12:56] we're going to respect voters

[2:12:57] on Proposition d and properly

[2:13:01] put the measure before them for

[2:13:01] appeal.

[2:13:05] That's the issue I just wanted

[2:13:06] to do on the record thank

[2:13:07] people who I believe made it

[2:13:08] possible to reopen

[2:13:14] the restrooms and with

[2:13:14] favoritism towards none and

[2:13:15] thank you towards all I just

[2:13:18] put it in alphabetical order

[2:13:19] Again just to put on the record

[2:13:24] those who who reversed that

[2:13:27] really unfortunate policy.

[2:13:28] First of all council member

[2:13:29] Campo who acknowledged his vote

[2:13:32] for the budget but was

[2:13:33] the first to forcefully come

[2:13:37] out and argue for there be in

[2:13:38] statement of the funds to open

[2:13:39] it to spite been ignored by

[2:13:41] the mayor The letter writer

[2:13:42] through the Union-Tribune who

[2:13:46] week after week refused to let

[2:13:46] the issue die.

[2:13:47] Audrey Pham, the pediatrician

[2:13:51] at Children's who on Tuesday

[2:13:52] before the mayor announced

[2:13:52] the openings pointed out

[2:13:56] the problem of communicable

[2:13:56] diseases caused by closed

[2:13:57] restrooms.

[2:14:01] Chris Read at the Union-Tribune

[2:14:01] who endlessly, tirelessly and

[2:14:05] sometimes a little too

[2:14:06] vociferously urged the opening

[2:14:07] of the restrooms.

[2:14:11] Bradshaw fell from the mission

[2:14:12] Bay Conservatory Thank you all.

[2:14:15] >> Thank you.

[2:14:16] I'm sorry The five minute time

[2:14:17] we're going to those

[2:14:17] participating remotely We

[2:14:18] currently have 11 people in

[2:14:19] the queue.

[2:14:19] >> The original if you can

[2:14:23] please unmute Yes with all this

[2:14:24] focus on flock it's interesting

[2:14:28] because it's the surveillance

[2:14:29] technology that we need to be

[2:14:29] focusing on.

[2:14:33] You guys like to concentrate on

[2:14:33] these billionaires and what

[2:14:37] they're doing to encroach on

[2:14:38] everybody's lives and

[2:14:38] the billionaires that you speak

[2:14:39] of and want to you know, hold

[2:14:42] back are the very ones that are

[2:14:43] owning these technologies And

[2:14:47] it's not about flock but it was

[2:14:48] a great bait and switch for

[2:14:52] them to bring in flock and do a

[2:14:52] corporate cannibalism of it by

[2:14:57] bringing in some a partner who

[2:14:57] supported Flock in

[2:14:58] the beginning in fact gave

[2:15:02] funding to it which is Axon.

[2:15:03] And so Axon is going to be

[2:15:04] coming in and taking the place

[2:15:07] of flock.

[2:15:08] Axon already got the contracts

[2:15:12] on the body worn cameras on

[2:15:13] the 911 dispatch on Alpers

[2:15:17] within the law enforcement

[2:15:17] vehicles.

[2:15:18] And so as we sit here and we

[2:15:22] concentrate on one entity and

[2:15:23] not the entire system as a

[2:15:24] whole and understand that Peter

[2:15:28] Teal who is very well connected

[2:15:32] with Epstein and Larry Fink

[2:15:33] with BlackRock it's you know

[2:15:33] all of these JPMorgan's

[2:15:34] the people that you guys even

[2:15:38] contract out but instead you

[2:15:38] want to focus on Trump.

[2:15:39] You need to be focusing on

[2:15:42] these entities that are

[2:15:43] collecting our data on a

[2:15:44] massive scale bringing in these

[2:15:47] A.I. Data centers and are

[2:15:48] surveilling our children

[2:15:51] wherever they go And this is an

[2:15:52] Epstein operation.

[2:15:53] Jeffrey Epstein is not dead.

[2:15:57] His operation is in full flux

[2:15:57] And the concern is not only

[2:16:01] that it's a satanic Lucifer

[2:16:02] Korean ritual abuse that

[2:16:02] happens on children but it's

[2:16:06] also a blackmail system because

[2:16:07] you know, Jeffrey Epstein is a

[2:16:11] cia and Mossad agent And so as

[2:16:12] we see these things

[2:16:13] encroaching, we need to really

[2:16:16] be concerned about where our

[2:16:16] data is going.

[2:16:17] And so you guys need to be

[2:16:18] standing against surveillance

[2:16:22] as a whole not flock, not Axion

[2:16:22] but surveillance as a whole and

[2:16:26] understand that your children

[2:16:27] are being watched by the very

[2:16:27] people that you think shouldn't

[2:16:28] be in jail.

[2:16:31] >> Time has concluded.

[2:16:32] Becky Wrap if you can please

[2:16:33] unmute after that is Barbara

[2:16:37] Gordon and Katherine Rhodes.

[2:16:37] Thank you Rob.

[2:16:38] I can hear me.

[2:16:40] There you go.

[2:16:41] >> Good afternoon.

[2:16:42] My name is Becky Rapp and I'm a

[2:16:45] parent in a public health

[2:16:45] educator And today I come to

[2:16:46] ask the Council for

[2:16:51] Transparency when it comes to

[2:16:51] the city's cannabis tax

[2:16:51] revenue.

[2:16:55] A neighboring city, Los Angeles

[2:16:56] has significantly more

[2:16:56] marijuana businesses than San

[2:16:59] Diego.

[2:17:00] And in MARCH of this year they

[2:17:01] were able to report that its

[2:17:04] marijuana businesses owe

[2:17:05] approximately 400 million in

[2:17:05] back taxes and fees.

[2:17:09] The city is now considering an

[2:17:10] amnesty program because so much

[2:17:14] money remains uncollected.

[2:17:15] If a city of this size with

[2:17:15] hundreds of pot shops can

[2:17:19] provide this detailed

[2:17:19] information, why can't San

[2:17:20] Diego residents are still

[2:17:24] asking how much marijuana tax

[2:17:25] is actually owed?

[2:17:25] How much was supposed to be

[2:17:29] collected and how much was

[2:17:30] actually collected including

[2:17:30] interest charges and late

[2:17:34] penalty fees.

[2:17:35] The city tells us that

[2:17:35] marijuana businesses are free

[2:17:38] to read to be audited and

[2:17:43] the city's own tax materials

[2:17:43] state that audits can identify

[2:17:44] underreported taxes and that

[2:17:48] penalties and interest can be

[2:17:48] assessed.

[2:17:49] So where's the public

[2:17:50] accounting of those results?

[2:17:53] The city treasurer has a

[2:17:54] delinquent accounts program

[2:17:57] that collects past receivables

[2:17:58] including audit deficiencies

[2:17:58] But the public deserves to know

[2:18:02] specifically what is happening

[2:18:03] with cannabis tax

[2:18:03] delinquencies.

[2:18:07] So I'd like to ask the Council

[2:18:08] to once again direct the City

[2:18:12] Treasurer and City Auditor to

[2:18:12] provide an update publicly

[2:18:13] available cannabis revenue and

[2:18:17] tax compliance report.

[2:18:17] Appreciate your time.

[2:18:18] Thank you.

[2:18:20] Next is Barbara Gordon.

[2:18:25] If you can please unmute.

[2:18:30] >> Good afternoon.

[2:18:31] In San Diego it's hard to MISS

[2:18:31] The many cannabis businesses

[2:18:34] and billboards promoting

[2:18:35] cannabis as a treatment for

[2:18:39] virtually every condition.

[2:18:40] Medical izing commercializing

[2:18:44] of high potency thc has

[2:18:45] produced rising rates in

[2:18:45] addiction emergency room

[2:18:49] visits, traffic fatalities,

[2:18:50] serious psychiatric harm

[2:18:51] especially among youth.

[2:18:55] Recently a dea scientist

[2:18:59] testified about the widespread

[2:19:00] abuse and the lack of

[2:19:01] standardized cannabis products

[2:19:05] and the absence of rigorous

[2:19:05] scientific evidence necessary

[2:19:10] to establish acceptable cold

[2:19:11] medical use for cannabis under

[2:19:14] the Controlled Substance Act.

[2:19:14] Congress established

[2:19:15] the scientific standard for

[2:19:19] drug scheduling to help ensure

[2:19:19] that these decisions are based

[2:19:24] on evidence rather than

[2:19:24] political pressure.

[2:19:25] If those standards can be

[2:19:29] reinterpreted whenever they

[2:19:29] become politically inconvenient

[2:19:34] scientists scientific integrity

[2:19:34] gives away to political

[2:19:35] expedience.

[2:19:39] We know lowering

[2:19:39] the restrictions will increase

[2:19:40] availability, reduce public

[2:19:43] perception of risk, encourage

[2:19:44] greater use and ultimately

[2:19:48] increase addiction especially

[2:19:49] among vulnerable young people.

[2:19:49] Our young people deserve

[2:19:53] protection when they repeatedly

[2:19:54] hear that marijuana is harmless

[2:19:58] or it is simply medicine.

[2:19:58] They MAY underestimate

[2:19:59] the risks.

[2:20:02] The profit driven marijuana

[2:20:03] industry big weed mirrors

[2:20:07] the tactics of big tobacco big

[2:20:07] alcohol.

[2:20:08] These developments are not

[2:20:08] accidental.

[2:20:12] I urge the city to take

[2:20:12] stronger actions by limiting

[2:20:17] marijuana businesses and

[2:20:17] advertising and marketing of

[2:20:18] this drug.

[2:20:22] Thank you for letting me speak

[2:20:22] .

[2:20:23] >> Thank you.

[2:20:24] Next is Katherine Rhodes than

[2:20:25] Kathleen Lippert in 7499 after

[2:20:28] the five minute timer has also

[2:20:29] concluded there were 13 people

[2:20:30] with their hands raised.

[2:20:30] No additional speakers will be

[2:20:31] taken.

[2:20:34] Kathleen, please proceed.

[2:20:35] >> Hello, this is Katherine

[2:20:39] Rhodes and I'm calling again

[2:20:39] regarding our ballot measure

[2:20:43] That was not allowed to be

[2:20:44] heard for a second reading at

[2:20:44] the Rules Committee and was

[2:20:49] taken out by PRESIDENT Joe La

[2:20:49] Cava based on I believe false

[2:20:54] information from both the Ebert

[2:20:54] which said that which only gave

[2:20:59] a verbal response saying that

[2:20:59] there's only going to be a

[2:21:03] minimal amount of money, not

[2:21:04] 140 million that would have

[2:21:05] solved our city structural

[2:21:08] budget deficit but also a

[2:21:13] verbal legal opinion by

[2:21:14] the city attorney that tried to

[2:21:18] say that if we just wanted to

[2:21:19] have the words online travel

[2:21:19] agency as part of a hotel

[2:21:23] operator in the municipal code,

[2:21:27] it would require a

[2:21:27] supermajority or two thirds

[2:21:28] public voter approval because

[2:21:31] this was a special tax.

[2:21:32] What I'm trying to say is

[2:21:32] that's not true.

[2:21:36] That again is false

[2:21:36] information.

[2:21:37] I would like for both the ipa

[2:21:41] to write a written response

[2:21:42] regarding exactly how much

[2:21:46] money should should be created

[2:21:51] by changing the municipal code

[2:21:51] plus a legal opinion a written

[2:21:52] legal opinion by the city

[2:21:56] attorney because they said you

[2:21:57] know what you guys did is a

[2:22:01] validation lawsuit for Measure

[2:22:05] c and what you guys said there

[2:22:05] is that because it was a

[2:22:09] special tax proposed by a

[2:22:10] citizens initiative even though

[2:22:11] it's a special tax, it only

[2:22:15] needs 50% or a majority voter

[2:22:18] approval not the two thirds

[2:22:19] supermajority.

[2:22:19] And so you guys won that

[2:22:23] lawsuit And so of course it's

[2:22:27] only 50% for that And it was

[2:22:28] it's always been 50% And I just

[2:22:32] think you guys just totally

[2:22:33] ruined all the work, all

[2:22:38] the hundreds of hours of work I

[2:22:42] put into this for no reason.

[2:22:43] My apologies.

[2:22:43] Thank you.

[2:22:46] Next is Kathleen Lippert.

[2:22:50] >> If you can please unmute.

[2:22:51] Thank you.

[2:22:55] Good afternoon again.

[2:22:56] >> I'd like to share some

[2:22:57] information from Paul Light.

[2:23:00] He writes that the first step

[2:23:01] in preventing future failures

[2:23:01] is to look at past policy

[2:23:05] failures to prevent worsening a

[2:23:06] growing behavioral health

[2:23:06] problem.

[2:23:10] >> There is plenty of

[2:23:11] historical evidence for drug

[2:23:12] policies that have failed in

[2:23:15] the past.

[2:23:15] The fda has asked and opposed

[2:23:20] cooperation with county public

[2:23:20] health departments questions

[2:23:24] that can determine whether

[2:23:25] the policy was necessary in

[2:23:26] the first place or whether it

[2:23:29] would resolve the problem at

[2:23:29] hand.

[2:23:30] They don't.

[2:23:30] The city's marijuana

[2:23:34] legalization expansion policy

[2:23:35] is a perfect example.

[2:23:36] It should have been clear from

[2:23:38] the beginning that attempting

[2:23:39] to partner with an addictive

[2:23:40] drug industry was destined to

[2:23:44] fail at regulating itself.

[2:23:44] The ordinance and the industry

[2:23:49] became undeterred undermined by

[2:23:49] corruption and unethical

[2:23:50] conduct.

[2:23:53] Well beyond monitoring.

[2:23:54] Ironically, The New York Times

[2:23:55] once an advocate on marijuana

[2:23:58] commercialization, has

[2:23:59] acknowledged that marijuana

[2:23:59] became too potent.

[2:24:02] What did they expect?

[2:24:03] Of course industry addiction

[2:24:04] industries like alcohol,

[2:24:08] tobacco now marijuana strive to

[2:24:08] increase their potency of

[2:24:09] products.

[2:24:12] Then year ago city and County

[2:24:13] both collaborated with

[2:24:14] the industry to increase

[2:24:17] availability and allow rapid

[2:24:18] changes in marijuana products

[2:24:22] Selling Bud along with highly

[2:24:22] concentrated vape cartridges,

[2:24:23] gummies, edibles, waxes and

[2:24:27] beverages infused with

[2:24:28] the psychoactive compound thc.

[2:24:32] These newer products evolve to

[2:24:37] max to engineer maximum thc to

[2:24:37] be used conveniently and

[2:24:38] discreetly.

[2:24:41] Of course concern is for our

[2:24:42] adolescents whose brains are

[2:24:43] still developing and are more

[2:24:46] vulnerable to the effects of

[2:24:47] repeated exposures to high

[2:24:47] levels of thc.

[2:24:52] Regulation are are supposed to

[2:24:53] allow for public education and

[2:24:59] teaching but concluded next to

[2:24:59] sound for nine nine.

[2:25:00] If you can please unmute.

[2:25:08] After that is Blair Beekman.

[2:25:09] >> Apology 7499 If you can

[2:25:14] please unmute.

[2:25:15] Bob does this get here?

[2:25:16] I'm going to read from several

[2:25:16] letters written to Joe LaCava

[2:25:17] regarding the Torrey Pines

[2:25:19] Light report.

[2:25:19] i'll start with this 2021

[2:25:20] letter written from the Horry

[2:25:21] Town Council.

[2:25:22] Quote On APRIL 8th, 2021

[2:25:23] the committee reported its

[2:25:23] findings to lgc which

[2:25:27] unanimously supported that

[2:25:27] the City of San Diego

[2:25:28] reconvened the Torrey Pines

[2:25:28] Advisory Board.

[2:25:29] We are requesting that the City

[2:25:33] of San Diego consider whether

[2:25:33] the solo pilot suppliers should

[2:25:34] have to pay annual membership

[2:25:38] fees or cost of insurance to

[2:25:39] fly the glider for end quote.

[2:25:39] Next is a letter from

[2:25:40] the Higher Shores Association

[2:25:42] on NOVEMBER 13th, 2025.

[2:25:43] Quote The Lahaina Shores

[2:25:43] Association respectfully submit

[2:25:46] this letter in support of

[2:25:47] establishing the Torrey Pines

[2:25:48] City Park Advisory Board and

[2:25:48] its role in overseeing

[2:25:52] operations at the Torrey Pines

[2:25:52] y Airport.

[2:25:53] Our association believes this

[2:25:54] matter is vital to the safety

[2:25:56] of park users, visitors and

[2:25:57] the surrounding community.

[2:25:58] We encourage the city of San

[2:25:58] Diego to carefully evaluate

[2:26:01] where the solo flier pilots

[2:26:02] should be required to pay

[2:26:02] annual membership fees and or

[2:26:03] maintain insurance coverage to

[2:26:06] fly at the glider airport end

[2:26:06] quote.

[2:26:07] Next letter is from

[2:26:07] the University Community

[2:26:10] Planning Group Quote On MARCH

[2:26:10] 10th, 2026, the U.S. Passed

[2:26:14] the following resolution quote

[2:26:15] where whereas Torrey Pines City

[2:26:16] Park has unique and

[2:26:16] irreplaceable natural resources

[2:26:19] and.

[2:26:19] Whereas, citizen input over

[2:26:20] these resources is both

[2:26:21] appropriate and timely,

[2:26:21] the University Community

[2:26:24] planning Group recommends that

[2:26:24] the city establish a Torrey

[2:26:27] Pines City Park Advisory Board

[2:26:28] under Charter Section 43 to

[2:26:29] advise the city on planning

[2:26:29] maintenance and operation of

[2:26:33] Torrey Pines City Park end

[2:26:33] quote.

[2:26:34] Finally this is a second letter

[2:26:36] from your town council on

[2:26:37] AUGUST 13th 2026 while you were

[2:26:37] on vacation.

[2:26:38] Quote the law your town council

[2:26:41] respectfully submit this letter

[2:26:42] in support of reactivating

[2:26:43] the Torrey Pines City Park

[2:26:45] Advisory Board under City

[2:26:46] Charter Section 43 and its

[2:26:47] essential role in providing

[2:26:47] oversight of operations at

[2:26:50] Torrey Pines Flight Report.

[2:26:51] Torrey Pines City Park Advisory

[2:26:52] Board should be tasked with

[2:26:53] advising the city on matters of

[2:26:55] safety and fair access to

[2:26:55] the Torrey Pines City Park.

[2:26:56] Matters of fair access should

[2:26:59] include a review of whether

[2:27:00] solo flier pilots should be

[2:27:00] required to maintain annual

[2:27:01] membership fees and or

[2:27:04] individual insurance coverage

[2:27:05] as a condition of flying

[2:27:06] the glider for end quote.

[2:27:06] Joe LaCava.

[2:27:09] Why are you ignoring all of

[2:27:10] these important local

[2:27:14] organizations?

[2:27:15] >> Why your time did conclude

[2:27:18] Blair Beckman If you can please

[2:27:23] unmute.

[2:27:23] >> Hi, Thank you.

[2:27:24] Blair Beekman.

[2:27:24] Thank you for that beginning of

[2:27:27] our meetings today.

[2:27:28] I wanted to thank Anthony for

[2:27:28] his work.

[2:27:32] He's bringing light to hpr and

[2:27:36] surveillance technology issues

[2:27:37] overall in San Diego the same

[2:27:42] time he was a council in

[2:27:42] the past few weeks with his

[2:27:43] showing what he can do well.

[2:27:51] There was also on on npr Radio

[2:27:52] in San Diego ktvu kpbs It was

[2:27:56] it was National you know

[2:27:57] consider pr week Do we do we

[2:28:01] leave hpr Weekly?

[2:28:02] How can we live our.

[2:28:05] It was a week to do that and

[2:28:06] npr and and kpbs picked up on

[2:28:07] that.

[2:28:11] They were covering stories.

[2:28:12] Should we be leaving?

[2:28:12] Aoki argues.

[2:28:13] That's an amazing concept.

[2:28:15] I think.

[2:28:16] And for all the years I've been

[2:28:17] talking to you guys trying to

[2:28:19] be accountable more

[2:28:20] responsible, good policy

[2:28:21] practices, open policies,

[2:28:25] working with community more.

[2:28:26] There's a part I'm not offering

[2:28:29] enough and that technology

[2:28:30] overall is really uncomfortable

[2:28:31] to a lot of people.

[2:28:34] And when you sit here and say

[2:28:35] how wonderful and magical

[2:28:39] billboards are each each year,

[2:28:40] each time it makes people

[2:28:41] really uncomfortable.

[2:28:44] For the most part our

[2:28:45] technology future is not that

[2:28:46] much of a price.

[2:28:49] And I think there's more of a

[2:28:50] price at this time in how to

[2:28:51] talk about the open accountable

[2:28:54] democratic process.

[2:28:55] And you guys I really hope want

[2:28:55] to make these efforts this fall

[2:28:58] towards such efforts.

[2:28:59] You know, with all the election

[2:29:03] issues I hope is real talk

[2:29:04] about accountability and

[2:29:04] working with the community on

[2:29:05] the future of our cec.

[2:29:08] How do we talk about the future

[2:29:09] of Waymo?

[2:29:09] I think we're all uncomfortable

[2:29:10] with that subject.

[2:29:13] I think there's ways to better

[2:29:14] talk about how we can have a

[2:29:17] trial period for them and then

[2:29:18] a real serious public process

[2:29:19] if they should be here in

[2:29:19] the future or not.

[2:29:23] We can do that.

[2:29:23] >> We have the ability to say

[2:29:24] no to technology.

[2:29:25] Let's do things well.

[2:29:27] Guys, thank you.

[2:29:28] Concluded John if you can

[2:29:28] please unmute.

[2:29:29] After that is not only asking

[2:29:32] John.

[2:29:33] >> Good afternoon.

[2:29:40] Oh MAY not be able to hear me.

[2:29:40] You hear me now?

[2:29:41] Yes.

[2:29:41] Please proceed.

[2:29:42] There we go.

[2:29:42] Thank you.

[2:29:44] John Brady lived experience

[2:29:45] advisors.

[2:29:46] I wanted to talk about the safe

[2:29:46] sleeping site.

[2:29:50] We're concerned about where

[2:29:50] we're headed with the safe

[2:29:54] sleeping site in terms of

[2:29:55] quality of life.

[2:29:55] When we supported the initial

[2:29:59] operation it was our

[2:30:00] understanding that it was going

[2:30:01] to be, you know, one maybe, you

[2:30:04] know, 200 individuals or tents

[2:30:09] that were going to be on that

[2:30:09] site And now we are approaching

[2:30:12] just shy of 600.

[2:30:13] In the meantime, we've not

[2:30:13] provided any shade cover.

[2:30:17] We've not provided any ground

[2:30:17] cover.

[2:30:18] I know the city has tons of

[2:30:22] trees and tree limbs that it

[2:30:23] shreds on a regular basis.

[2:30:24] Why can't we just dump some of

[2:30:27] that onto the ground so people

[2:30:27] are not tracking dirt or even

[2:30:31] worse mud into the places that

[2:30:32] they're living in.

[2:30:32] And we see continuous issues

[2:30:36] with people's ability to shower

[2:30:37] with that number of people.

[2:30:38] It appears that our trailers

[2:30:41] have not been expanded for

[2:30:42] showers as well as access to

[2:30:46] and from the facility via

[2:30:47] the provided electric

[2:30:47] transport.

[2:30:51] I really am concerned

[2:30:52] the direction that we're

[2:30:52] headed.

[2:30:56] We've decided not to build any

[2:30:57] formal shelter since the mega

[2:31:01] shelter proposal.

[2:31:02] And with this administration

[2:31:06] we've laid a pretty pretty bare

[2:31:06] bones example of what an

[2:31:11] internment camp could be as an

[2:31:12] operating function if if that's

[2:31:12] the direction it truly decides

[2:31:15] to head which seems to be all

[2:31:16] indicators forcing homeless

[2:31:16] people into some sort of

[2:31:20] containment facility ice.

[2:31:25] >> So I really think that we

[2:31:26] need to look at you know, when

[2:31:26] we saw the budget lines

[2:31:29] presented, you know, there was

[2:31:30] ,you know, less than $50 a

[2:31:30] day.

[2:31:31] The question needs to be is

[2:31:34] that really adequate?

[2:31:35] Are we treating people

[2:31:36] humanely, cramming them into

[2:31:39] these facilities when

[2:31:40] originally we talked about

[2:31:40] small encampments around

[2:31:44] the city, not one large sided

[2:31:44] location.

[2:31:45] >> But now over 600.

[2:31:48] Natalie Raskin If you can

[2:31:52] please unmute your immediate we

[2:32:03] do not hear you.

[2:32:09] Hello.

[2:32:09] Sorry.

[2:32:10] Your mike does not seem to be

[2:32:13] working.

[2:32:14] You will have to move on to

[2:32:17] the next caller and we'll try

[2:32:17] one more time.

[2:32:22] I see that you're in a meeting

[2:32:23] but the device that you're

[2:32:24] speaking into MAY be muted as

[2:32:26] well.

[2:32:27] We will have to move on to

[2:32:31] the next caller.

[2:32:32] Call in user two if you can

[2:32:36] please unmute.

[2:32:41] >> Hi.

[2:32:42] I am concerned about collection

[2:32:43] of city council members

[2:32:48] physically just stupid whopping

[2:32:48] old giddy gleeful Perry Como

[2:32:53] What mother Julia Colbert

[2:32:54] the eccentric moneybags and I'm

[2:32:55] now crippled but the fear as

[2:33:01] you feel would sleep on them

[2:33:02] laying low Hola Just not happy

[2:33:03] to pay for a car but probably

[2:33:04] why one of his political

[2:33:05] opponents Well tell me what

[2:33:06] feels in California If you go

[2:33:07] back to New Jersey, New York

[2:33:11] you go up a big floppy county.

[2:33:14] >> got it all next says

[2:33:15] Madison.

[2:33:19] If you can please unmute it.

[2:33:19] Hi, good afternoon.

[2:33:24] City Council I want to remind

[2:33:25] the Council that when we talk

[2:33:25] about cannabis policy we cannot

[2:33:29] lose sight of the kids that are

[2:33:30] growing up in this environment.

[2:33:34] We are creating a teenager's

[2:33:35] brain is still developing into

[2:33:35] their mid-twenties.

[2:33:36] Cannabis can affect memory

[2:33:40] attention learning, decision

[2:33:40] making and coordination and

[2:33:45] teens who use cannabis are more

[2:33:45] likely to experience problems

[2:33:46] such as cannabis use disorder

[2:33:50] and difficulties Completing

[2:33:50] school.

[2:33:51] But the consequences are more

[2:33:55] than just statistics because

[2:33:56] for a young person losing

[2:33:56] motivation can mean falling

[2:34:00] behind in school and poor

[2:34:00] judgment can mean getting

[2:34:01] behind the wheel impaired

[2:34:06] Regular use can turn into more

[2:34:06] and become a dependance issue

[2:34:07] And for some young people

[2:34:11] cannabis use is associated with

[2:34:11] serious mental health

[2:34:12] consequences including

[2:34:12] psychosis.

[2:34:16] As adults we have a

[2:34:17] responsibility to make sure our

[2:34:18] children understand that

[2:34:21] marijuana is not harmless

[2:34:21] simply because it is available

[2:34:22] to adults.

[2:34:23] San Diego can be a leader in

[2:34:27] prevention by investing in

[2:34:27] evidence based youth education,

[2:34:32] supporting parents and schools

[2:34:32] ,enforcing protections around

[2:34:33] cannabis businesses and making

[2:34:34] sure prevention doesn't get

[2:34:37] treated as an afterthought.

[2:34:38] We spend enormous resources

[2:34:39] helping people recover after

[2:34:43] substance use has caused

[2:34:43] damage.

[2:34:44] I hope we will remember that

[2:34:44] preventing that damage in

[2:34:48] the first place especially for

[2:34:49] children and teenagers is one

[2:34:49] of the best investments

[2:34:50] the city can.

[2:34:54] Thank you.

[2:34:54] >> Thank you.

[2:34:59] Remember back and please unmute

[2:34:59] .

[2:35:00] >> Hi, good afternoon again I'm

[2:35:04] in the district seven.

[2:35:05] I'm so first I wanted to bring

[2:35:09] up I just found out about

[2:35:10] recently like a couple of

[2:35:11] months ago about this program

[2:35:15] the keep Homeland Security

[2:35:15] grant program that's

[2:35:16] administered through fema.

[2:35:20] Apparently it's a $1 billion

[2:35:24] program and we as a big city

[2:35:25] receive funds from this program

[2:35:26] through the u.

[2:35:31] A I urban area security

[2:35:31] initiative.

[2:35:35] I actually when I first learned

[2:35:36] about it in early JULY, I put

[2:35:37] in a public records request and

[2:35:41] it's been delayed now three

[2:35:41] different times.

[2:35:42] So from JULY 9th they've now

[2:35:46] delayed until SEPTEMBER 1st.

[2:35:47] I don't know if that's normal.

[2:35:48] I haven't done a ton of public

[2:35:51] record requests yet.

[2:35:52] I've done a few and I've never

[2:35:53] taken this long.

[2:35:54] And I just wanted to bring that

[2:35:57] up.

[2:35:58] Secondly, I'll just read and I

[2:35:59] read this to you guys before

[2:35:59] but I'm just going to keep

[2:36:03] coming back and reading it.

[2:36:04] I'm in a city full of sailors,

[2:36:09] soldiers and veterans.

[2:36:10] It absolutely disgusting that

[2:36:10] our city council so easily

[2:36:15] decimates the Fourth Amendment

[2:36:16] protections that our military

[2:36:19] families sacrifice for bled for

[2:36:27] and died to protect.

[2:36:28] >> That concludes your

[2:36:28] comments.

[2:36:29] No, sorry.

[2:36:29] I'm okay.

[2:36:33] I I'm going to help them with

[2:36:33] practice.

[2:36:34] They're taking the economy on

[2:36:34] purpose.

[2:36:35] So small farms, small

[2:36:38] businesses fail and big

[2:36:38] corporations can buy scraps and

[2:36:39] monopolize exports even more.

[2:36:40] They're running up our national

[2:36:44] debt while they still can so

[2:36:45] they can go through defense

[2:36:45] contracts and corporate tax

[2:36:46] cuts even removing required

[2:36:50] social support and removing

[2:36:51] social support and services so

[2:36:51] they have more money to

[2:36:52] embezzle and defense contracts

[2:36:52] and tax cuts.

[2:36:56] They're creating a surveillance

[2:36:56] system and desensitizing

[2:36:57] massive paramilitary on

[2:36:58] the streets of the rebellion

[2:37:02] When the air bubble pops.

[2:37:03] Our fallen kids evaporate in

[2:37:04] places devastated.

[2:37:04] The people have nothing to lose

[2:37:08] by rebelling because nothing

[2:37:08] like history.

[2:37:09] >> Smash and grab robbery.

[2:37:09] I'm sorry your time has

[2:37:10] concluded.

[2:37:10] Great.

[2:37:13] Thank you.

[2:37:13] Catherine Douglas and then

[2:37:14] Fannie after that.

[2:37:19] Hello.

[2:37:19] >> Hello.

[2:37:20] Yes, I can hear you.

[2:37:20] Okay.

[2:37:21] Patricia Filet.

[2:37:24] Previously District three now

[2:37:25] District two Old town.

[2:37:26] The supplemental air for San

[2:37:26] Diego is Measure c was found

[2:37:29] legally deficient for failing

[2:37:30] to properly analyze impacts on

[2:37:30] cultural resources and

[2:37:35] neighborhood character in areas

[2:37:36] adjacent to the Midway District

[2:37:36] such as Ultium.

[2:37:37] The review downplayed

[2:37:41] the effects of increased

[2:37:41] density and traffic on historic

[2:37:42] sites leading to a court ruling

[2:37:47] that the city violated Sequoyah

[2:37:48] the city's failure to conduct a

[2:37:48] proper analysis regarding

[2:37:53] Measure c and its resulting

[2:37:53] coastal height limit in

[2:37:54] the Midway District directly

[2:37:59] impacts Presidio Park

[2:37:59] assignments specifically

[2:38:00] recognized as a national

[2:38:05] historic landmark by

[2:38:06] challenging but weakly

[2:38:06] deficient air successfully

[2:38:11] argued that the that

[2:38:12] the environmental review

[2:38:12] treated areas like Presidio

[2:38:17] Park and Old Town as isolated

[2:38:18] islands completely ignoring how

[2:38:22] a wall of high rises in

[2:38:23] neighboring Midway would

[2:38:24] visually and culturally degrade

[2:38:29] a national historic landmark.

[2:38:30] In short, while Measure c

[2:38:30] attempts to adjust municipal

[2:38:35] height boundaries locally.

[2:38:36] Section 106 ensures that

[2:38:36] federal planning standards

[2:38:37] treat Presidio Park as a

[2:38:41] protected asset whose visual

[2:38:41] horizon early California

[2:38:42] landscape and ancestral

[2:38:47] archeology cannot be legally

[2:38:48] disregarded by a full vote.

[2:38:53] Our surrounding neighborhoods

[2:38:53] matter as much as our native

[2:38:54] and descendent voices too For

[2:38:58] any major developments to

[2:38:59] further attempt to erase our

[2:39:05] historic and cultural heritage.

[2:39:05] >> Thank you.

[2:39:05] Thank you.

[2:39:06] Katherine Douglas, if you can

[2:39:06] please.

[2:39:10] I'm you.

[2:39:10] >> I hadn't planned to speak

[2:39:11] this afternoon but I am

[2:39:16] appalled at some of

[2:39:17] the comments regarding Alpers.

[2:39:22] The police department has great

[2:39:23] oversight from multiple

[2:39:23] committees.

[2:39:28] The police department put on a

[2:39:28] technology informational

[2:39:34] technology meeting on I believe

[2:39:35] it was JULY 22nd.

[2:39:38] I happened to go to the one in

[2:39:39] my area.

[2:39:40] There were four officers there.

[2:39:40] There were three people from

[2:39:41] the public.

[2:39:46] There were a few more at Anchor

[2:39:46] Church.

[2:39:47] Most of the as we went through

[2:39:51] the meeting and they explained

[2:39:51] technologies which are super

[2:39:58] important to our public safety

[2:39:58] they're force multipliers where

[2:40:04] 230 officers short as of last

[2:40:04] Wednesday maybe even shorter

[2:40:05] today.

[2:40:10] But did any of those people go

[2:40:10] to those meetings?

[2:40:11] Did any of those people learn

[2:40:12] about the technology?

[2:40:16] Do any of those people Basham

[2:40:17] and Alpers realize that

[2:40:22] everybody has on everybody has

[2:40:22] a smartphone.

[2:40:23] A lot of people have Apple

[2:40:23] watches.

[2:40:27] People have ring cameras and

[2:40:28] public safety surveillance

[2:40:34] cameras on their homes and

[2:40:34] businesses.

[2:40:35] You're being surveilled all

[2:40:35] the time.

[2:40:40] The technology this particular

[2:40:41] technology just caught someone

[2:40:41] who shot into a crowded

[2:40:46] restaurant and injured someone

[2:40:47] with a gun Last week that

[2:40:52] happened to be in Vista But it

[2:40:52] happens in San Diego And they

[2:40:53] because of Alpers they were

[2:40:58] able to catch the suspect.

[2:40:58] He's been charged with

[2:40:59] attempted murder and he's

[2:41:04] probably going to jail.

[2:41:04] So I caution people to learn

[2:41:11] about the technology before

[2:41:11] they speak without

[2:41:12] understanding it.

[2:41:12] Thank you.

[2:41:13] Thank you.

[2:41:17] That is funny.

[2:41:18] Esquivel The next speaker is

[2:41:19] Fannie Esquivel who has

[2:41:19] requested translation fantasy

[2:41:23] before that idea is allowed in

[2:41:28] France's courts before

[2:41:28] Parliament.

[2:41:34] >> When a service member goes

[2:41:35] it's funny as we communion in a

[2:41:40] way that Good afternoon members

[2:41:40] of the San Diego City Council.

[2:41:41] >> My name is and I am here

[2:41:42] today as a member of

[2:41:44] the community a concerned

[2:41:52] member of the community of Soda

[2:41:53] is a product of the tobacco tax

[2:41:57] and using dairy.

[2:41:58] >> I'm concerned because of

[2:41:58] the tobacco product litter that

[2:41:59] is scattered throughout my

[2:42:01] neighborhood.

[2:42:12] >> We see what this is.

[2:42:12] My children and grandchildren

[2:42:13] are curious about the cigaret

[2:42:14] butts and pick them up to play

[2:42:14] with them.

[2:42:19] So you have political opponents

[2:42:27] in cities meeting looking to

[2:42:29] put in their little hands and

[2:42:30] clothes become contaminated

[2:42:30] with these toxic substances

[2:42:35] even though they're not smoking

[2:42:35] them By touching these products

[2:42:36] the chemicals can come into

[2:42:37] contact with their bodies and

[2:42:42] consume it.

[2:42:43] >> Yes.

[2:42:44] In the study on tobacco use and

[2:42:48] throwing these products on

[2:42:49] the ground has become

[2:42:49] normalized and that is not

[2:42:50] okay.

[2:42:57] >> And where they put it that

[2:42:57] is because then what are you

[2:43:00] standing against in a context

[2:43:01] of combustion popsicle Instead

[2:43:02] of being able to relax while my

[2:43:03] children and grandchildren play

[2:43:03] outside?

[2:43:08] >> I'm constantly worried that

[2:43:08] they will come into contact

[2:43:09] with this toxic litter.

[2:43:13] But I know that it's important

[2:43:13] that in especially in what is

[2:43:17] seen a little bit most of our

[2:43:17] children deserve to be able to

[2:43:18] play in a clean and safe space

[2:43:19] without the risk of becoming

[2:43:21] sick or being exposed of

[2:43:22] tobacco related substances that

[2:43:28] is toxic that can duplicate

[2:43:29] tobacco.

[2:43:29] But I know so many fundamental

[2:43:34] issues that only that I see

[2:43:39] programs but I'm exactly sick.

[2:43:40] >> The amount of tobacco

[2:43:41] product waste is harmful to our

[2:43:41] environment and our community

[2:43:45] just as there are programs to

[2:43:46] collect and recycle recycle

[2:43:53] hazardous products.

[2:43:54] >> What's the point?

[2:43:58] What is the picture that that

[2:44:03] hazardous product such as

[2:44:03] batteries and motor oil We

[2:44:04] should also implement programs

[2:44:05] to collect and recycle tobacco

[2:44:05] waste.

[2:44:11] For me that is a ticket to

[2:44:12] the polls.

[2:44:16] Some people say But what about

[2:44:16] media?

[2:44:17] >> Our is asking you prioritize

[2:44:20] our community and the health of

[2:44:21] everyone.

[2:44:21] San Diego represents itself as

[2:44:22] a clean, safe and family

[2:44:29] friendly city and in particular

[2:44:29] political.

[2:44:33] >> And as it stands city must

[2:44:33] get to win.

[2:44:34] >> However, our current

[2:44:34] policies do not reflect that

[2:44:35] standard.

[2:44:39] We ask that you take action.

[2:44:40] >> Did I say positive things?

[2:44:40] Thank you for your time and

[2:44:41] attention.

[2:44:45] I'm grateful for our witnesses

[2:44:45] .

[2:44:46] >> Next is Korina Vega.

[2:44:49] If you can please unmute

[2:44:50] District eight.

[2:44:50] I continue to be baffled that

[2:44:51] many necessary programs are

[2:44:56] partially or fully cut off and

[2:44:57] we're constantly told there's

[2:44:57] no money when the department

[2:44:58] year after year increases their

[2:45:02] budget at the expense of every

[2:45:03] citizen safety health

[2:45:03] especially the safety of our

[2:45:04] brown and black brothers and

[2:45:08] sisters who if I remind you are

[2:45:09] seven times more likely to

[2:45:09] experience unnecessary force

[2:45:12] four police officers and nine

[2:45:13] times more to be charged with

[2:45:14] resisting an officer all while

[2:45:18] crime has been down.

[2:45:19] I was at the church meeting

[2:45:20] with 15 other comrades for that

[2:45:23] technology presentation and I

[2:45:24] can not support the police

[2:45:25] department or them getting more

[2:45:25] surveillance technology.

[2:45:26] They do not keep all members of

[2:45:30] the community safe.

[2:45:31] The city of San Diego is a

[2:45:32] large community.

[2:45:32] When you aren't true community

[2:45:35] if you see one member

[2:45:36] struggling you balance their

[2:45:36] need by looking at who has an

[2:45:37] excess to share To alleviate

[2:45:42] that need.

[2:45:43] At dpd has enough excess to fix

[2:45:43] our city's budget and then some

[2:45:47] We do not need to invest 2

[2:45:47] million a year with a lpr for

[2:45:48] surveillance like Darth Vader

[2:45:53] supports nor an underwater

[2:45:54] rovers or smart glasses.

[2:45:55] There is no tough call in

[2:45:55] saying that truth.

[2:45:59] The truth that all hail pr

[2:46:00] surveillance is a threat to our

[2:46:00] constitutional rights.

[2:46:05] The whole nation agrees.

[2:46:06] Tony's video has gone viral

[2:46:06] internationally the left,

[2:46:07] the center and the right here

[2:46:11] in this country are in

[2:46:12] agreement that our rights

[2:46:12] matter, our environment matters

[2:46:13] And this technology is not

[2:46:17] about safety but rather 24/7

[2:46:18] surveillance to keep the rebel

[2:46:18] scum in check.

[2:46:23] Like in any dictatorship there

[2:46:23] are enough billions in

[2:46:24] the world to take a moral

[2:46:25] stance and please be a hero.

[2:46:30] >> Thank you.

[2:46:31] Our next speaker is Roseanne

[2:46:37] Barr started by opening

[2:46:38] Parabolas which will crossover

[2:46:42] across the translation.

[2:46:49] >> Like what?

[2:46:49] I'm.

[2:46:50] What about cutting open it?

[2:46:50] Why not?

[2:46:54] Like I said when you know.

[2:47:00] Good afternoon to City council

[2:47:01] My name is Roseanne.

[2:47:02] Can also be the funny bone and

[2:47:03] people it's not that typically

[2:47:10] member of the community.

[2:47:10] I'm here as a constituent a

[2:47:12] concerned mother about tobacco

[2:47:13] product waste on the streets of

[2:47:19] San Diego.

[2:47:29] The folks that call my mother

[2:47:33] generally in uniform people

[2:47:38] from discarded tobacco products

[2:47:39] are not just litter they're

[2:47:43] most commonly littered consumer

[2:47:43] waste product in the world and

[2:47:44] preventable source of plastic

[2:47:48] pollution That's going to

[2:47:56] become apparent.

[2:47:57] Also pretty interesting that

[2:47:59] people will the exposure to

[2:47:59] toxic chemicals and increase in

[2:48:00] cleanup costs to cities like

[2:48:12] San Diego With that in on our

[2:48:18] fans and what it can throw

[2:48:22] people making or farming one

[2:48:26] way that we know what I bet

[2:48:27] people do not realize that

[2:48:27] tobacco litter contaminates our

[2:48:28] water our land and environment.

[2:48:33] For example, in my building my

[2:48:34] upstairs neighbors smoke When

[2:48:34] they finish they throw their

[2:48:35] cigaret their cigaret waste

[2:48:36] outside their home.

[2:48:44] >> I think I'll be honest i

[2:48:50] pick them to be the nails in my

[2:48:55] as I get on to something before

[2:48:56] it becomes as much attention as

[2:49:00] I get it and it ends up inside

[2:49:01] the homes below They do not

[2:49:02] recognize how their actions

[2:49:02] affect the lives of the people

[2:49:09] around them And a baby was just

[2:49:09] born with a heart defect.

[2:49:13] They know somebody I tell them

[2:49:18] to be.

[2:49:28] I don't think they can And then

[2:49:29] and science has shown us

[2:49:30] the consequences of tobacco use

[2:49:30] including exposure to

[2:49:33] secondhand smoke.

[2:49:34] >> We have to protect children

[2:49:34] from the harm caused by

[2:49:42] tobacco, nicotine influence

[2:49:43] things in anything we politic.

[2:49:47] I think that lacking in some

[2:49:48] evil form very thankful for

[2:49:57] that think this is what we can

[2:49:58] do We ask that you take action

[2:49:58] and implement a policy that

[2:49:59] helps protect the people of San

[2:50:00] Diego from the harm caused by

[2:50:00] tobacco.

[2:50:01] Thank you for your time and

[2:50:03] attention and I just want that

[2:50:03] does conclude on agenda public

[2:50:04] comment for today's meeting.

[2:50:04] >> All right.

[2:50:05] Thank you.

[2:50:09] City clerk With that will turn

[2:50:09] it over to the office of

[2:50:10] the city attorney Is there

[2:50:10] anything to report out in

[2:50:11] closed session?

[2:50:14] There's nothing to report

[2:50:14] today.

[2:50:15] All right.

[2:50:15] Thank you for that.

[2:50:16] And with that we will now

[2:50:16] adjourn council to

[2:50:19] the regularly scheduled council

[2:50:23] meeting on Tuesday AUGUST 25th,

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