[12:16] the mayor has been away for

[14:17] just a little

[17:44] .

[17:44] >> All right.

[17:45] Good morning.

[17:45] We're going to get started.

[17:46] Always great way to kick off a

[17:49] Tuesday with our proclamations

[17:50] and a very happy crowd.

[17:51] So with that I will call

[17:56] the city council meeting of

[17:56] Tuesday AUGUST 25th 2026 to

[17:57] order Clerk Please call

[17:57] the roll.

[17:58] Thank you.

[18:02] Council PRESIDENT Council

[18:03] Member Campbell Councilmember

[18:03] Whitburn Member Foster Council

[18:10] Everyone over from Council

[18:10] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[18:11] Councilmember Campo

[18:12] Councilmember Moreno

[18:13] Councilmember Ella Rivera and

[18:20] Council PRESIDENT Look over

[18:20] here also thank the media our

[18:21] city attorney Heather Herbert,

[18:22] independent media analyst

[18:25] Charles Maka council PRESIDENT

[18:26] And the mayor's office

[18:27] co-designer and myself for city

[18:27] clerk Diana Fuentes.

[18:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[18:32] Trump if you know All right

[18:33] with that a quorum is now

[18:37] present.

[18:37] We will begin this morning with

[18:38] the land acknowledgment and

[18:39] the Pledge of Allegiance led by

[18:40] we have the paperwork Council

[18:47] member Campbell please stand if

[18:47] you're able.

[18:48] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[18:52] that the committee nation or

[18:53] the original inhabitants of

[18:53] the Unceded land now known as

[18:58] San Diego Despite enduring

[18:59] the horrors of genocide and

[19:00] colonization, the Kumi spirit

[19:04] remains unbroken.

[19:05] We honor the resilience of

[19:06] their ancestors who fought to

[19:10] protect their culture and land.

[19:11] Today they carry their legacy

[19:15] forward ensuring that their

[19:16] traditions continue to thrive

[19:16] and gratitude and strength We

[19:21] stand with the culmination

[19:22] connected to our past and

[19:26] committed to a thriving future

[19:27] .

[19:27] Please raise the flag.

[19:28] Put your right hand over your

[19:33] heart and let's begin.

[19:33] Allegiance to the flag of

[19:34] the United States of America

[19:38] and to the Republic for which

[19:39] it stands One nation under GOD,

[19:40] indivisible with liberty and

[19:47] justice for all.

[19:48] So please go over how

[19:48] the public can offer their

[19:53] testimony.

[19:54] Thank you.

[19:55] Council PRESIDENT I would like

[19:55] to highlight the slide on

[19:56] the screen that reveals how

[19:56] the public can offer their

[19:58] public testimony during today's

[19:58] meeting.

[19:59] Please note the time

[19:59] allocations for proclamations

[20:00] and consent items for meeting

[20:04] management purposes The order

[20:04] can be found on the agenda

[20:05] summary and found online at

[20:06] the table in the back of

[20:06] the room.

[20:09] If you are in person please

[20:10] complete the speaker slip

[20:10] located at the entrance of

[20:11] chambers and bring it to

[20:11] the front of the room in

[20:15] the clear box For those that

[20:16] have submitted and organize

[20:16] presentation for an item on

[20:17] today's agenda please be sure

[20:20] to have all of your identified

[20:21] participants present when

[20:21] the item is introduced and if

[20:22] you have a virtual organized

[20:25] presentation please ensure you

[20:26] all have your identified

[20:26] participants raise their hand

[20:27] when prompted.

[20:27] Council ambassadors are

[20:31] available near the entrance of

[20:32] chambers and can assist with

[20:32] questions and speakers ups No

[20:33] further in-person testimony

[20:36] will be taken once the Council

[20:37] begins Virtual testimony.

[20:38] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[20:38] right.

[20:38] Thank you.

[20:39] And as a friendly reminder at

[20:41] the end of this morning session

[20:42] we will be taking our agenda

[20:43] public comment where you can

[20:43] speak on items within

[20:47] the city's purview But when you

[20:48] speak on docket items, a

[20:48] friendly reminder to speak to

[20:52] the docket item.

[20:53] We will now dispense with

[20:53] the approval of

[20:57] the proclamation items and for

[20:58] the record on item 30 we will

[20:58] be including Councilmember

[21:03] Foster as one of the presenters

[21:06] for the Item 30 proclamation

[21:07] With that clerk please proceed

[21:08] with public comment.

[21:08] >> Thank you.

[21:12] Council PRESIDENT.

[21:13] The proclamation for the call

[21:14] and prayer for the proclamation

[21:14] items is now open.

[21:16] Each speaker will have one

[21:17] minute per item per person.

[21:17] If you would like to speak on

[21:18] three or more items you will

[21:21] have a maximum of three

[21:22] minutes.

[21:22] Those participating virtually

[21:23] that are part of an organized

[21:26] presentation we actually have

[21:26] one organized presentation in

[21:27] proximity and it is in person

[21:28] but the proclamation items

[21:32] being approved are items 3031

[21:32] and 32.

[21:37] We will begin the public

[21:37] comment period with organized

[21:38] presentations that were

[21:39] submitted via the city's

[21:43] organized presentation web

[21:43] form.

[21:44] Organized presentation requires

[21:44] all the participants to be

[21:45] present and raise their hand if

[21:47] all participants are not

[21:48] present, do not raise their

[21:48] hand the allotted time MAY be

[21:52] reduced accordingly.

[21:53] Once organized presentations

[21:53] have concluded, no further

[21:54] organized presentations will be

[21:57] taken and one organized

[21:57] presentation has been submitted

[21:58] for item 30 and is led by

[22:02] Michelle Ceccarelli or my co

[22:02] Sugar.

[22:07] Yes please approach electing a

[22:07] total of five individuals were

[22:08] listed as part of this

[22:11] organized presentation.

[22:12] Will the following individuals

[22:12] who have registered as a part

[22:13] of this presentation raise

[22:16] their hand when your name is

[22:17] called and Smith Michael's okay

[22:21] Sam Serrano and Corrine Wilson

[22:22] thank you so much.

[22:26] You will have five minutes.

[22:26] Please proceed.

[22:27] Thank you and good morning.

[22:31] My name is Michelle Ceccarelli

[22:31] and I've been the meaa

[22:34] PRESIDENT Since 2022.

[22:35] It's my honor.

[22:39] I have been a city of San Diego

[22:40] employee for the Parks and

[22:43] Recreation Department for 37

[22:43] years.

[22:44] I am currently an area manager

[22:47] in the North Park Recreation

[22:48] Center.

[22:48] I want to thank the mayor and

[22:52] the city Council for their

[22:53] recognition this morning.

[22:57] Today we have with this meaa

[22:58] executive board members

[23:02] gathered behind me.

[23:02] We want to express our

[23:03] appreciation for the work you

[23:07] do every day to support city

[23:11] employees and help give us

[23:12] the tools we need to deliver

[23:15] services to the citizens of San

[23:16] Diego.

[23:16] We take great pride in our work

[23:21] and we're grateful for your

[23:21] support.

[23:22] I also want to recognize our

[23:26] fantastic general manager

[23:30] Michael Zukin who is obviously

[23:31] very familiar to all of you.

[23:35] And finally to turn it over to

[23:36] mta is amazing Longtime

[23:39] attorney and Smith.

[23:40] Thank you.

[23:40] Good morning.

[23:44] Your proclamation today

[23:44] perfectly captures the essence

[23:49] of America's long and

[23:49] distinguished role as city

[23:54] employee advocate and recognize

[23:54] employee organization.

[23:59] So with Jennifer with Michelle

[24:00] ,I happily thank you on behalf

[24:04] of the mta membership its

[24:04] elected city employee

[24:05] leadership and professional

[24:05] staff.

[24:09] I've been Mayor's Labor Council

[24:12] for 41 years having begun in

[24:16] AUGUST of 1985.

[24:17] Maybe before some of you were

[24:17] born.

[24:21] And in that capacity I've

[24:21] watched the mta was elected

[24:26] leadership fully, faithfully

[24:26] and without ever flinching

[24:30] fulfill the promise and

[24:31] commitment of mta to work

[24:35] tirelessly to improve working

[24:35] conditions for city employees

[24:36] and improve their wages and

[24:36] benefits.

[24:40] Your proclamation pays fitting

[24:45] tribute to nea's specific role

[24:46] in advocating for city employee

[24:49] pensions.

[24:50] And even before the landmark

[24:55] Bee case, mta was in the lead

[24:55] in court fighting to defeat

[24:59] city initiated litigation

[25:04] designed to reduce or roll back

[25:04] city employee pensions that had

[25:05] been earned and were vested

[25:10] under California law.

[25:10] And thanks to those successes,

[25:14] thousands of city employees

[25:15] over the past two decades have

[25:16] retired with the benefits that

[25:19] they were promised and had

[25:19] earned.

[25:20] It really would be hard to

[25:24] overstate mta ai's impact and

[25:29] leadership in fighting the Prop

[25:29] b case in order to achieve

[25:34] ultimately the invalidation and

[25:35] and striking of that

[25:35] proposition from the city

[25:39] charter.

[25:39] But what is less known and

[25:43] speaks volumes about mta is

[25:44] that the city employee leaders

[25:48] who made the decision to fight

[25:53] and fund that long legal battle

[25:53] were not themselves adversely

[25:58] affected by Prop b They were

[25:58] already employed and they had a

[25:59] defined benefit pension.

[26:03] So their decision was for

[26:04] the sake of those who would

[26:04] come after them.

[26:08] And by the time we had success

[26:08] ten years later more than half

[26:12] of set of mta as represented

[26:13] workforce had been denied a

[26:16] defined benefit pension and

[26:17] then had it restored to them

[26:21] made all the more important

[26:21] because city employees do not

[26:22] have the safety net of Social

[26:23] Security.

[26:26] And not just mta represented

[26:27] employees but firefighters and

[26:28] lifeguards.

[26:32] Deputy city attorneys asked me

[26:32] represented employees and even

[26:33] the unrepresented in

[26:37] the citizens residents of San

[26:37] Diego though they don't often

[26:38] appreciate it.

[26:41] They too were the winners as

[26:42] your proclamation recognizes

[26:46] because the invalidation of

[26:46] property restored the city's

[26:51] capacity to recruit and retain

[26:51] qualified employees.

[26:52] So let the next hundred years

[26:56] begin as mta continues its

[26:56] distinguished legacy as a

[27:00] champion of city employees.

[27:01] So thank you.

[27:05] Thank you.

[27:06] >> Thank you.

[27:07] We'll now move on to in-person

[27:10] public comment individual

[27:11] in-person public comment If

[27:11] Joyce initiative can please

[27:15] come forward.

[27:16] You're speaking on items 30 and

[27:20] 31 Joyce Sonata if you can

[27:21] please come forward to

[27:21] the lectern.

[27:24] >> You'll be speaking on item

[27:25] 30 and 31.

[27:28] You'll have two minutes after

[27:28] that It will be allegedly

[27:32] addressed.

[27:38] >> Good morning, everyone.

[27:38] This is a wonderful day.

[27:39] Okay.

[27:42] On 30.

[27:47] My favorite whereas is this

[27:47] where as without city employees

[27:51] there are no city services And

[27:52] when workers experience

[27:57] fairness in the workplace they

[28:01] can extend and uphold it in

[28:01] their daily tasks.

[28:02] On behalf of the residents I

[28:06] love that so much.

[28:07] So this morning I had the great

[28:11] honor of meeting Michelle and

[28:12] and Sian and I had never met

[28:16] them before.

[28:17] So all of you at meaa, I'm

[28:18] going to highlight to people

[28:21] now that I know from my work

[28:22] but I want you to know that

[28:25] everything I say about these

[28:26] two people is the same for you.

[28:29] So I'd like to highlight two

[28:30] meaa leaders two very, very

[28:34] fine human beings and

[28:39] professionals par excellence

[28:40] Our Michael Zoo Cat MR. Zoo

[28:40] Cat.

[28:45] He's the gentle manager of

[28:45] the meaa And Kathleen Higgins.

[28:49] I'm here and I hope you are.

[28:50] I'd love to see you.

[28:50] And she's the labor relations

[28:54] officer at meaa.

[28:58] So thank you both for your

[28:59] enormous contribution to all

[28:59] the people of San Diego.

[29:03] And of course also thank you to

[29:08] all other meaa workers And

[29:09] you're just absolutely great.

[29:09] We need you more than ever.

[29:10] Love to all.

[29:12] Now on 31 I'm celebrating

[29:16] AUGUST 20th, 26th as

[29:16] Transgender Month.

[29:20] Here's what I like from Google

[29:20] .

[29:24] Transgender people, non-binary

[29:25] individuals and third gender

[29:25] roles have been documented in

[29:30] culture and societies worldwide

[29:30] for thousands of years.

[29:35] That's thousands of years end

[29:35] of quote.

[29:41] Native Americans call them to

[29:41] Spirit.

[29:42] Thank you for that concluding

[29:42] statement Dignity to gently

[29:47] order Love to you.

[29:47] >> You're speaking on 3031 and

[29:48] 32 so you'll have three

[29:48] minutes.

[29:52] Please proceed.

[29:52] >> >> Yeah, I think it's good

[29:57] to have these employee

[29:57] associations because I think

[29:58] there needs to be

[30:01] accountability within

[30:01] the workplace.

[30:02] But I kind of wonder when

[30:05] you're talking about fairness

[30:06] in the workplace and

[30:07] prohibiting bias based on race

[30:11] when the way things are being

[30:12] pushed with equity it's like

[30:13] we're actually being racist by

[30:16] saying only you know like

[30:17] basically don't hire white

[30:17] people.

[30:21] And it's just weird to me And

[30:22] then I think about covid and

[30:22] how many employees didn't want

[30:25] to get a vaccination And I'm

[30:26] wondering if they were fighting

[30:30] for those employees or was it

[30:31] only ones that were in line?

[30:34] You know, the way that they

[30:35] were thinking because a lot of

[30:39] people lost their jobs during

[30:40] that time And so it's just a

[30:41] little bit sad that it's

[30:45] probably not always, you know,

[30:45] fairness that they are creating

[30:46] in that because that's creating

[30:50] bias And then this is

[30:50] unfortunate Transgender History

[30:55] Month.

[30:55] So I think adults should be

[30:56] able to do whatever they want.

[30:59] But when we encroach into

[31:00] the lives of children and we

[31:04] encourage them to cut off their

[31:05] body parts and put hormones

[31:09] into their bodies when they are

[31:10] extremely young like even four

[31:10] years old that is so

[31:13] detrimental to them and their

[31:14] ability to grow up and be able

[31:18] to function properly.

[31:19] And it's sad because it also,

[31:20] you know, sets them up for

[31:23] lifelong pain and different

[31:24] things.

[31:24] If you talk to a lot of these

[31:28] children who have gone through

[31:29] transitions and they're

[31:30] extremely upset that they did

[31:33] there's women who cut off their

[31:34] and then get pregnant and they

[31:35] can't even breastfeed And it's

[31:37] extremely painful because they

[31:38] get milk inside their And it's

[31:39] like all of these things they

[31:42] say are reversible and they're

[31:43] not And I think it's dangerous

[31:44] to do that to children because

[31:47] we're also sexualizing them And

[31:48] that leads to, you know,

[31:52] pedophiles running rampant like

[31:53] they do in this legal

[31:54] administrative assistant.

[31:58] It's interesting how we pay for

[31:58] like the city attorney And you

[32:02] know, any time that people want

[32:03] to go after what the government

[32:04] does, it's like we got to go in

[32:07] our own pocket Yet you guys go

[32:08] in our pockets when we have to

[32:08] fight you too.

[32:12] And if we win that money just

[32:12] comes from us anyway.

[32:16] So it's interesting that we pay

[32:17] for these things and we can't

[32:17] use them.

[32:18] It's not like we can go in

[32:21] there and be like Hey can we

[32:22] get some help?

[32:23] It's like no, this is only to

[32:26] protect this entity.

[32:27] And then when you bring forward

[32:28] things that are like illegal

[32:30] they don't really do their job

[32:31] and tell you that they are.

[32:32] They just kind of try and

[32:36] obfuscate and make excuses as

[32:36] to why it's okay that you guys

[32:37] do the things that you do.

[32:41] So it's just interesting

[32:41] the way things work.

[32:42] I like to, you know, bring

[32:42] light to those things because

[32:45] you guys want to brush it under

[32:46] the rug and make it so that

[32:46] these things are like

[32:47] everything's hunky dory when it

[32:50] really isn't So.

[32:51] >> Good job though.

[32:51] Everybody's going to clap and

[32:52] you guys are going to take your

[32:52] pictures.

[32:55] Same as usual.

[32:56] >> Start of the five minute

[32:57] timer going to those

[32:57] participating remotely.

[33:00] Blair Wickman if you can please

[33:00] unmute and let me know which

[33:01] item or items you wish to speak

[33:05] to.

[33:05] >> Hi.

[33:06] Blair Beekman I wanted to speak

[33:10] to you.

[33:11] I'm waiting for my Google to

[33:11] arrive.

[33:14] Item 30 You'll have one minute.

[33:15] >> Please proceed.

[33:19] Yeah.

[33:19] Thank you.

[33:20] Very nice public comment on

[33:23] item 30 At the beginning an

[33:26] employee association 100th

[33:27] anniversary day.

[33:27] They're trying to do important

[33:31] good work and retirement plans

[33:32] .

[33:32] I think with the same respect

[33:33] we're trying to get retirement

[33:37] plans in San Diego we should

[33:37] also be having towards health

[33:38] benefit plans that is being

[33:42] really questioned in San Diego

[33:42] at this time.

[33:43] Oakland is going through

[33:43] the same thing because they

[33:46] have the same large budget

[33:47] deficit issues forcing health

[33:51] care benefits up on

[33:51] the employees themselves is

[33:55] like it's not very good

[33:56] business.

[33:56] I don't think it's not our

[33:57] ideals And I think we have to

[34:00] consider that.

[34:01] I've continuously mentioned how

[34:01] city employees can take a very

[34:05] small cut and pay 25 bucks a

[34:05] month.

[34:09] That's like 300 bucks a year

[34:09] and that can help pay for our

[34:14] benefit plans And I think those

[34:15] are the sort of morale issues

[34:15] we have to be considering and

[34:19] working on together in defining

[34:20] our future budgets in San

[34:20] Diego.

[34:21] >> Thank you.

[34:24] Thank you.

[34:25] Lori Saldana If you can please

[34:26] unmute please let me know which

[34:29] item or items you wish to speak

[34:29] to.

[34:29] Yes.

[34:30] Good morning.

[34:30] Thank you.

[34:33] Item 30 and 31 please.

[34:37] Please proceed.

[34:38] I as a former city employee I

[34:43] was actually I worked for

[34:43] the city when I was still a

[34:48] high school student and I eight

[34:48] and that was 50 years ago.

[34:51] I have always appreciated

[34:52] the support that they have

[34:57] provided for the workforce and

[34:57] dealing with sometimes

[34:58] troubling incidents And

[35:01] the world is a very different

[35:02] place for those 50 years ago to

[35:06] be city employees.

[35:07] So congratulations on 100 years

[35:11] of advocacy for people who are

[35:12] working And I know from

[35:12] experience not only as an

[35:17] employee but as someone who

[35:21] calls city services that your

[35:21] employees are doing the very

[35:22] best they can under sometimes

[35:25] daunting circumstances.

[35:26] So thank you for your advocacy

[35:30] for your work to keep our city

[35:31] operating and functioning as

[35:35] best it can despite some of our

[35:39] financial and other setbacks.

[35:40] The next item 31 and I and I

[35:41] have to link a connection

[35:44] between these two items because

[35:45] what we see in the transgender

[35:49] community is increasingly

[35:50] vilification and we see that

[35:50] against public employees from

[35:53] time to time And historically

[35:58] we have seen frankly

[36:02] governments seeking to divide

[36:03] the populace, go after union

[36:04] workers, go after transgender

[36:04] people.

[36:08] So I think it's more important

[36:09] than ever to show support in

[36:12] proclamations like this but

[36:13] also in our experience every

[36:17] day of acknowledging the basic

[36:18] dignity and equality of people

[36:18] whatever people take in

[36:22] the workplace and how they

[36:23] choose to live their lives and

[36:27] express themselves.

[36:28] >> So I see some kind of sad

[36:32] linkage between these two

[36:32] proclamations today but I join

[36:36] in acknowledging the municipal

[36:37] employees and also uplifting

[36:37] transgender people.

[36:41] Thank you for that concluding

[36:42] remark.

[36:42] Kathleen Lippert if you can

[36:45] please unmute.

[36:46] Thank you.

[36:46] Good morning.

[36:51] Council.

[36:52] >> Which items will you be

[36:53] speaking on to the employee?

[36:53] I'm sorry, can you hear me?

[36:55] Which items will you be

[36:56] speaking on?

[36:56] Oh, I'm sorry.

[36:56] 30.

[36:57] Thank you.

[36:57] You'll have a minute.

[37:00] Please proceed.

[37:00] >> Okay.

[37:01] There is a little doubt that

[37:02] city employees do an excellent

[37:05] job in providing essential

[37:06] services for the city and

[37:06] the mta does an excellent job

[37:09] serving their interests.

[37:10] However, attention must be paid

[37:14] when an ever widening gap

[37:15] between city employee benefits

[37:15] and the private sector become

[37:19] unsustainable.

[37:20] When mta union influence

[37:20] becomes outsized after

[37:24] relentlessly pushing for ever

[37:25] expanding rights and

[37:29] protections for city employees

[37:30] ,the Office of Budget should

[37:30] monitor that balance.

[37:35] Thank you for letting me speak.

[37:36] >> Thank you Hector.

[37:36] If you can please unmute and

[37:39] let me know which item or items

[37:40] you wish to speak to.

[37:44] >> The transgender item.

[37:45] I will just listen.

[37:46] There's some young girl saying

[37:49] that she says there's three

[37:49] genders.

[37:50] There's the male gender,

[37:54] there's the female gender and

[37:54] there's the mentally ill

[37:55] gender.

[37:59] >> I think the it's an

[37:59] abomination to change kids

[38:00] gender.

[38:04] Whoa.

[38:05] On to Children's Hospital and

[38:05] the doctors and the nurses that

[38:09] participate in that because

[38:09] they're going to meet the Lord

[38:10] one day and they're going to go

[38:10] good.

[38:14] The young kids and change it's

[38:15] abomination to do it.

[38:18] If you're 18 go ahead man.

[38:19] You can do whatever you want

[38:23] But young kids who's ever

[38:24] touching that stuff is going to

[38:24] pay the price.

[38:28] And we've got the blind leading

[38:29] the blind up there anyway on

[38:33] the stage And like we're in a

[38:37] $5 billion debt right with

[38:37] the employees $5 billion in

[38:38] the hole maybe 10 billion by

[38:42] next year Who knows?

[38:46] But anyway, have a good day.

[38:47] >> That concludes public

[38:47] comment on the proclamation.

[38:48] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[38:48] All right.

[38:49] Thank you.

[38:52] City Clerk.

[38:53] And with that I will kick off

[38:53] the convert and the Council

[38:56] Council conversation on

[38:56] the proclamations and start out

[39:00] with item 30 a 100th

[39:00] anniversary day.

[39:01] A special welcome to mta board

[39:06] PRESIDENT Michelle Ceccarelli

[39:06] general manager Michael we get

[39:07] attorney and Smith and all

[39:10] the executive committee members

[39:11] and the other members that

[39:12] might be in the audience or in

[39:15] the chambers today.

[39:15] City employees are vital to

[39:16] providing the services that San

[39:17] Diegans want and deserve.

[39:20] And simply put there are no

[39:20] city services without our city

[39:24] employees.

[39:25] Mta is an important partner

[39:25] ensuring that the city can

[39:28] recruit and retain quality

[39:28] employees.

[39:29] So the city in turn runs

[39:30] efficiently and responds to San

[39:33] Diego's mta has been at

[39:34] the forefront of key city

[39:37] issues for 100 years providing

[39:38] wise counsel rising from

[39:42] the deep understanding of its

[39:43] members.

[39:44] So simply put thank you mta and

[39:47] all the officers for your

[39:48] service my honor and bringing

[39:51] today forward today is

[39:52] proclamation for versus both my

[39:53] professional experience and

[39:56] takes root in my personal life

[39:56] .

[39:57] My father was the head of a

[39:58] small local union operating

[39:58] engineers.

[40:01] My wife was an fda member for

[40:02] her tenure at Boardwalk

[40:02] Elementary.

[40:05] And my daughter wasn't in

[40:09] the Graduate Students Union uaw

[40:09] 5810.

[40:10] I understand the voice.

[40:14] I understand the need and I

[40:14] understand the opportunity

[40:15] the mta provides for its

[40:18] members.

[40:19] And it is interesting that

[40:19] somebody would castigate an

[40:23] employer for actually trying to

[40:24] do right by its employees.

[40:25] I think that's what the city is

[40:28] doing and we hope

[40:29] the corporations of the world

[40:29] would listen in and actually

[40:33] take care of their employees.

[40:34] How outrageous would it be to

[40:38] go to Costco and say hey, you

[40:38] should knock off your benefits

[40:39] and your salary because

[40:42] Wal-Mart doesn't do the same?

[40:43] It is the obligation of

[40:44] the employer to rise up and

[40:47] meet the needs.

[40:48] And we live in an expensive

[40:48] city.

[40:49] We want our employees to be

[40:52] able to live, enjoy and thrive

[40:53] in the city that we all that

[40:57] most of us call home.

[40:57] So with that again,

[40:58] congratulations on your

[40:58] centennial.

[41:02] In MAY our San Diego Municipal

[41:03] Employees Association continue

[41:06] its successful advocacy for

[41:06] the next 100 years.

[41:07] Thank you to my colleagues for

[41:11] bringing the transgender

[41:12] Proclamation.

[41:12] I'll let you speak more

[41:13] eloquently on that.

[41:16] But item 32 the legal

[41:17] administrate of Assistant City

[41:17] McNary Day.

[41:20] Congratulations city on your

[41:20] retirement.

[41:21] And thank you for your

[41:22] dedication to serving

[41:22] the people of San Diego and

[41:25] the Office of the City

[41:25] Attorney.

[41:26] Cindy Cindy has been an asset

[41:27] between the council and

[41:30] the city Attorney's office.

[41:31] Your keen eye for detail jovial

[41:32] disposition and prompt

[41:35] responsive.

[41:36] This has been crucial to her

[41:36] work with our office.

[41:40] I know that the Council

[41:40] PRESIDENT's team will

[41:41] especially MISS Working with

[41:42] you and wish you the best in

[41:45] your retirement.

[41:46] Enjoy your retirement and thank

[41:46] you for your service Cindy.

[41:49] And with that I will move

[41:50] the proclamations.

[41:50] And again repeating for

[41:53] the record that item 30 the mta

[41:54] proclamation is also being

[41:58] presented by Council member

[41:58] Foster.

[41:59] And with that I will now go to

[42:03] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

[42:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[42:04] I will go ahead and speak to

[42:04] item 30 as well.

[42:08] I am honored to join Mayor

[42:08] Gloria.

[42:09] Council PRESIDENT Acaba

[42:10] customarily Rivera and

[42:10] Councilmember Foster in

[42:13] recognizing the 100th

[42:14] anniversary of the San Diego

[42:14] Municipal Employees

[42:15] Association.

[42:18] For a century now mta has given

[42:19] city employees a voice when

[42:22] they've been fighting for fair

[42:23] wages, benefits, working

[42:23] conditions and ultimately to

[42:27] build a stable career when it

[42:28] comes to public service.

[42:32] As you had just helped to share

[42:33] with everyone here, that

[42:33] includes fighting for

[42:37] the important victories that

[42:37] mta has led to ensure that

[42:38] the benefits earned by that

[42:42] decades of service to our

[42:43] communities is actually kept.

[42:43] And this past year I think has

[42:47] been another meaningful

[42:47] reminder as why that

[42:48] representation matters.

[42:51] During one of the most

[42:52] difficult city budgets we've

[42:53] faced, we spent a lot of time

[42:55] talking about positions

[42:56] vacancies, reductions, dollars

[43:00] That all popped up on a

[43:01] spreadsheet.

[43:01] And the proposed budget often

[43:05] included reductions that we

[43:06] felt impacted all of our

[43:06] residents.

[43:07] For example, cutting back on

[43:11] operating hours at libraries

[43:11] and rec centers amongst other

[43:12] city services.

[43:15] But behind every one of those

[43:15] numbers I think we recognize

[43:19] there's an actual person and

[43:20] behind that person is service

[43:20] that San Diegans actually rely

[43:24] on.

[43:25] And that can be the librarian

[43:29] that helps to discover helps a

[43:30] child to discover a book that

[43:31] they want to read.

[43:31] It's that rec center staff

[43:32] member that's keeping a

[43:35] facility open in the evenings

[43:35] welcoming families for

[43:39] recreation.

[43:40] I think if planners who helped

[43:40] to shape the future of our

[43:44] communities and then engineers

[43:44] for example that help to

[43:45] deliver and design every road,

[43:49] every park, every facility that

[43:50] we see upgraded and at the end

[43:50] of the day there are thousands

[43:54] of employees that you help to

[43:55] represent that ensure that

[43:58] the actual service that our

[43:59] city residents rely on every

[44:00] single day a lot of that work

[44:03] happens very quietly.

[44:04] And I think residents despite

[44:05] not maybe knowing the names of

[44:09] those employees who to help to

[44:10] deliver the services they rely

[44:10] on certainly would feel it if

[44:13] those services didn't exist.

[44:14] And so that's why I think you

[44:15] see a council that has

[44:18] continued to not only fight for

[44:19] the services that our residents

[44:23] rely on but also the very staff

[44:24] and the people who power those

[44:28] services and to do so is just

[44:29] like what Council PRESIDENT

[44:30] LaCava mentioned.

[44:30] We have to value the actual

[44:33] people who serve the city and

[44:34] in turn ensure that in this

[44:38] challenging environment with

[44:39] the cost of living is what it

[44:40] is, they actually have an

[44:40] opportunity to live and enjoy

[44:43] the city that they help to

[44:44] deliver.

[44:45] So today is really more than

[44:47] just celebrating your 100 years

[44:47] as an organization.

[44:48] It's recognizing that that

[44:51] comes with generations of

[44:52] public service and ultimately

[44:57] allows us to to carry that on

[44:57] for the next hundred years.

[44:58] So congratulations to everyone

[45:02] here today from mta, all

[45:02] the members past and present

[45:03] and we certainly look forward

[45:04] to working together for

[45:07] the next century ahead.

[45:08] >> Thank you.

[45:08] Council PRESIDENT.

[45:09] I think there was a second in

[45:09] there.

[45:12] I will go in a second.

[45:13] >> The proclamation.

[45:13] All right.

[45:14] We have a motion by myself and

[45:15] a second by council PRESIDENT

[45:17] Pro Tem Lee to move

[45:17] the proclamation.

[45:18] >> We'll go next to council

[45:18] member Campbell.

[45:22] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[45:22] First of all I want to

[45:23] congratulate mta.

[45:27] I want to remind the public

[45:28] that only four council members

[45:29] are allowed to join on a block

[45:33] otherwise I'm sure every one of

[45:33] us would be on your proc.

[45:34] But we all do get to sign it as

[45:37] well as the mayor.

[45:38] So know that we love you and we

[45:39] appreciate you.

[45:42] On item 31 I want to thank

[45:43] Maritime Gloria and my

[45:43] colleagues.

[45:48] Council members would be open

[45:48] for joining me and bringing

[45:49] forward this proclamation

[45:52] declaring AUGUST 2026 as

[45:53] Transgender History Month in

[45:58] the city of San Diego.

[45:58] AUGUST holds a special

[45:59] significance in transgender

[46:00] history and this year

[46:04] especially as it marks the 60th

[46:08] anniversary of the 1966 Compton

[46:08] cafeteria riots in San

[46:09] Francisco.

[46:13] This was one of the earliest

[46:14] acts of collective resistance

[46:17] by transgender people against

[46:18] harassment and discrimination

[46:18] in the United States.

[46:23] Here in San Diego we believe in

[46:24] dignity, equality and

[46:25] authenticity for everyone.

[46:29] Today and every day I want to

[46:30] celebrate our transgender

[46:31] community and honor those who

[46:34] continue to fight for inclusion

[46:35] and justice Despite the attacks

[46:39] and discrimination we see

[46:40] across the country.

[46:41] And we hear even in our own

[46:45] place right here.

[46:46] This year we are recognizing

[46:47] the University of San Diego

[46:50] School of Law's Transgender

[46:51] name and gender marker change

[46:52] clinic which helps transgender

[46:57] individuals navigate the legal

[46:57] process of updating their names

[46:58] and gender markers on official

[47:02] documents.

[47:03] This work is so important

[47:03] because having id that reflects

[47:08] who you are can make an

[47:08] enormous difference in a

[47:09] person's ability to live safely

[47:13] and authentic authentically.

[47:19] As a family physician I've seen

[47:19] firsthand how people can thrive

[47:20] when they are supported as

[47:24] living their true authentic

[47:24] selves.

[47:25] Transgender people are like

[47:30] everyone else and need the same

[47:31] things we all do respect,

[47:36] support, dignity and access to

[47:36] affirming care.

[47:37] I'll end with this.

[47:41] To our trans community I see

[47:41] you.

[47:42] I respect you and I love you.

[47:46] Our city honors you and

[47:47] celebrates everything you

[47:47] contribute to San Diego.

[47:52] We are in this fight together

[47:53] So let us stand together as one

[47:57] big lgbtq family and one big

[47:58] San Diego family.

[47:58] Never stop fighting for

[48:02] the right to be who you are and

[48:03] to live with dignity, freedom

[48:03] and pride.

[48:04] Thank you.

[48:11] Council PRESIDENT.

[48:12] Thank you, Council Campbell.

[48:12] We'll go next to Councilmember

[48:13] Whitman.

[48:13] Thank you.

[48:15] Council PRESIDENT I too proud

[48:15] to join my colleagues in

[48:16] proclaiming AUGUST as

[48:16] Transgender History Month in

[48:17] the city of San Diego.

[48:21] Transgender people have been an

[48:21] instrumental part of the city

[48:22] of San Diego for many, many

[48:23] years throughout our history.

[48:27] Through their leadership, their

[48:28] creativity, their advocacy,

[48:28] their service.

[48:29] Transgender San Diego have

[48:33] strengthened our communities.

[48:33] They have advanced equality and

[48:34] helped to make our city a more

[48:39] welcoming place for everybody.

[48:39] This both gives us an

[48:40] opportunity to one of

[48:41] the trailblazers whose courage

[48:41] laid the foundation for that

[48:45] progress.

[48:46] We'll also celebrating those

[48:46] who continue to make history

[48:47] today or thank all those in

[48:51] attendance today to support

[48:51] this item today your continued

[48:52] work to uplift others, build

[48:57] community and advocate for

[48:57] dignity and equal opportunity

[48:58] inspires us all.

[49:02] Transgender history but also

[49:03] reminds us that progress is not

[49:03] inevitable.

[49:08] I have been horrified to see

[49:09] the attacks on the transgender

[49:10] community physical attacks,

[49:15] verbal attacks, legal attacks.

[49:16] There have been deaths.

[49:20] There have been legal setbacks

[49:20] .

[49:21] But there has also been courage

[49:22] and determination to fight for

[49:26] justice and equality.

[49:27] We must continue standing with

[49:28] the transgender community and

[49:28] ensuring that every San Diego

[49:33] can live openly and safely and

[49:33] authentically.

[49:38] And I am utter to recognize

[49:38] the lasting contribution to

[49:39] the transgender community and

[49:40] to reaffirm the City of San

[49:40] Diego commitment to inclusion

[49:44] and equality and respect for

[49:44] all.

[49:45] Today I'm also proud to join

[49:50] Gloria and my council

[49:51] colleagues to recognize the San

[49:52] Diego Police Association as it

[49:55] celebrates 100 years of

[49:55] service.

[49:56] For a century nba has stood up

[49:57] for city employees who work

[50:01] every day to serve San Diego to

[50:01] keep our city running.

[50:02] I'm glad Smith mentioned

[50:03] the fight to overturn

[50:07] Proposition b.

[50:08] Here you had a situation where

[50:08] city employees public servants

[50:09] who do not receive Social

[50:13] Security lost their pensions as

[50:13] well.

[50:14] Your successful work to reverse

[50:19] that not only helps city

[50:20] employees here but has sent a

[50:20] message statewide that city

[50:24] employees are to be respected.

[50:25] And as recently as earlier this

[50:26] year, nba had a profound impact

[50:30] on another matter.

[50:31] There was a threatened ballot

[50:31] measure that would have cost

[50:32] the city of San Diego hundreds

[50:37] of millions of dollars of

[50:37] revenue.

[50:38] It would have been crippling.

[50:38] Thank goodness.

[50:42] Nba general Manager Mike Scott

[50:43] and Council PRESIDENT McCarver

[50:44] were instrumental in

[50:44] the decision in the settlement

[50:45] and the threat of a crippling

[50:48] ballot measure was dropped to

[50:49] the benefit not only of our

[50:50] city workers but to all

[50:50] citizens.

[50:54] 100 years is a remarkable

[50:54] milestone and our congratulate

[50:55] its leadership and all of its

[50:59] members past and present.

[51:00] And finally on item 32, I am

[51:01] also pleased to join our city

[51:01] attorney and my cultural

[51:05] colleagues in congratulating

[51:06] City McNary on retirement.

[51:06] Thank you Sidney, for your many

[51:10] years of service to our city

[51:11] and bet you enjoy your

[51:12] well-deserved retirement.

[51:12] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

[51:13] thank you council member

[51:16] Whitman And we'll go next to

[51:17] Councilmember Foster.

[51:17] Yes, Thank you Council

[51:23] PRESIDENT And it's an honor and

[51:23] pleasure to join my colleagues

[51:27] in recognizing nba on 100

[51:27] years.

[51:28] Congratulations.

[51:34] You know, Mike, it's a good you

[51:35] know, it's hard to I can't you

[51:35] know, when I think of nba, I

[51:39] think of Mike Kaye.

[51:40] It's hard to separate you but

[51:40] you look good for 100 years, my

[51:45] friend, but just can't say

[51:46] enough about nba.

[51:46] As you hear some of the public

[51:51] comment, I'm a little taken

[51:56] aback because I was here in

[51:57] some other years when nba was

[51:58] not in a good place.

[52:02] Our employees really would I

[52:08] would say took a drastic hit

[52:09] over what I want to say a

[52:14] decade of hiring freezes,

[52:15] salary freezes, mandatory

[52:20] furlough.

[52:20] You're talking about living

[52:26] through a very, very concerning

[52:26] time.

[52:27] But I think we've turned

[52:28] the corner and I think that

[52:28] speaks to the leadership and

[52:32] the dedication of our

[52:32] employees.

[52:33] We made some progress.

[52:39] We were able to make some

[52:44] important increases to get our

[52:45] employees closer to where they

[52:46] need to be.

[52:51] i think there's still more work

[52:51] to do.

[52:52] I think if we are going to say

[52:57] we are the finest city, we need

[52:58] to make sure that we are taking

[52:58] care of our employees to

[52:59] provide the services that our

[53:03] residents rely and depend on.

[53:04] And I just want to say thank

[53:09] you for showing up to work

[53:09] every day even when your

[53:14] cubicle MAY not be the proper

[53:15] operational order.

[53:15] But it doesn't stop you from

[53:16] coming to work and to serve

[53:16] the public.

[53:21] So thank you for all of your

[53:21] efforts, all of your

[53:22] dedication.

[53:26] As you hear we have PRESIDENT

[53:26] Of the organization that has

[53:27] been with the city for 37

[53:27] years.

[53:32] I think that speaks to

[53:33] the importance of nba and

[53:33] the dedication of our employees

[53:38] So thank you for your continued

[53:38] service.

[53:39] Thank you for your continued

[53:39] fight.

[53:40] Thank you for holding us

[53:40] accountable.

[53:44] I think it's the right thing to

[53:44] do.

[53:45] And again, we have more work to

[53:45] do.

[53:49] And again, congratulations on

[53:50] 100 years.

[53:50] All right.

[53:51] Thank you, Councilmember

[53:51] Foster.

[53:51] And we'll go next to

[53:55] Councilmember Von Wilpert.

[53:56] Thank you very much to my

[53:57] colleagues Bring forth

[53:58] fantastic proclamations as

[54:00] always, Mike Happy birthday And

[54:01] Rafe and and and happy 29th

[54:02] birthday.

[54:07] You two are looking fantastic.

[54:08] Oh, but no, honestly,

[54:12] congratulations to nea and all

[54:13] of the city employees who have

[54:14] shown such excellent leadership

[54:18] to be joining a union.

[54:18] And thank you for fighting

[54:19] the lawsuit that you did to end

[54:24] the legal overturning of

[54:25] defined benefit and retirement

[54:26] for so many workers.

[54:26] You know, since we got elected

[54:30] we got to then implement that

[54:31] decision and we're seeing

[54:32] people come back to the city to

[54:32] work here again which is

[54:37] wonderful because that provides

[54:37] residents with the services

[54:38] that they need.

[54:39] And so it's been just a win win

[54:39] all around.

[54:43] But the find extremely long

[54:44] legal battle because it also

[54:44] helped protect other employees

[54:48] and other municipalities from a

[54:49] similar attack.

[54:49] So very glad you're here.

[54:50] And I learned something about

[54:54] nea.

[54:55] I think this proclamation that

[54:56] when mba was founded city

[54:59] employees worked six days and

[54:59] 44 hours a week.

[55:00] They had no benefits little

[55:00] voice in their workplace

[55:05] overtime was not even mentioned

[55:06] as a possibility.

[55:06] But it was the union who

[55:07] secured health, dental vision

[55:11] and life insurance And with

[55:12] the bank collapsed shortly

[55:13] after the 1929 stock market

[55:13] crash.

[55:17] It was nea members who created

[55:18] their own credit union pulling

[55:19] together their membership dues

[55:22] to provide loans to other

[55:23] members to get to the financial

[55:23] crisis.

[55:24] I mean that's an incredible

[55:29] history that mta has so today

[55:29] we are very thankful for

[55:30] the people who make our city

[55:31] work every day from our parks

[55:35] and recreation directors who

[55:35] create safe welcoming spaces

[55:36] for families in the public to

[55:37] our librarians who connect

[55:41] residents with new portals to

[55:42] education opportunity to our

[55:43] planners and engineers who help

[55:46] shape our communities to our

[55:47] 911 dispatch responders who

[55:48] work day and night or some of

[55:53] the kind of the most patient

[55:53] individuals I've ever met in my

[55:54] life two analysts, inspectors,

[55:55] technicians, administrate

[55:59] professionals and countless

[56:00] others whose work happens

[56:01] behind the scenes but benefits

[56:01] every city diegan Every day.

[56:06] So thank you so much for all

[56:06] you do And I'm looking forward

[56:07] to another hundred years but

[56:08] hopefully at some point you'll

[56:10] give make a break.

[56:11] So I'm really honored to to be

[56:12] taking this proclamation today

[56:17] and then for item 31

[56:18] Transgender History Month, I'm

[56:18] very proud to join my

[56:19] colleagues in recognizing

[56:23] AUGUST 25th, 2026 as

[56:24] Transgender History Month in

[56:25] the city of San Diego.

[56:27] This year marks the 60th

[56:28] anniversary of the 1966

[56:32] Compton's cafeteria riots one

[56:33] of the earliest known acts of

[56:34] collective resistance by

[56:34] transgender and gender

[56:35] nonconforming people in United

[56:38] States even pre-dating

[56:39] the Stonewall riots.

[56:39] It was here in the San

[56:43] Francisco Tenderloin District

[56:44] in 1966 in which a riot was

[56:45] erupting in response to

[56:49] the violent inconsistent police

[56:50] harassment of trans people

[56:51] including for the crime at

[56:55] the time a female impersonation

[56:56] .

[56:57] Luckily we will be honest and

[56:57] this incident was one of

[57:01] the first lgbtq related efforts

[57:02] United States to actually

[57:02] recognize transgender activism

[57:03] And I'm very proud to recognize

[57:07] that here today and since we

[57:08] are coming up to

[57:09] the anniversary, I'm also very

[57:09] proud that Diego has been a

[57:13] leader in reversing the history

[57:14] of police discrimination

[57:18] against our trans community.

[57:18] In 2015 one of our very own

[57:19] first responders made history

[57:20] here in San Diego when

[57:25] Christine Garcia publicly came

[57:25] out as a transgender woman

[57:26] After years serving as an

[57:27] officer in a senior police

[57:31] force, she initially feared it

[57:31] would end her law enforcement

[57:32] career according to an

[57:33] interview she did with Tribune

[57:37] interviewing transgender woman

[57:38] because she thought she would

[57:38] cautiously at first telling

[57:39] only a close friend who was

[57:42] also a member of the lgbtq

[57:43] community.

[57:43] Sergeant Dan Meyer, who was one

[57:48] of our lgbtq liaison officers

[57:49] and he had the courage to go to

[57:50] that police chief Sailor

[57:51] Tamarin and say I didn't know

[57:51] what plan we'd have.

[57:54] We're going to work out a plan

[57:55] to make sure that she could

[57:56] continue serving in uniform

[57:56] with the badge.

[57:56] And they did.

[58:00] And as soon as Christine Garcia

[58:01] came out to appear she thought

[58:01] quote Maybe I'll lose respect

[58:06] from 50% of the department.

[58:07] But she said I'm a good cop and

[58:08] I hoped if I could show that

[58:11] i'm still a good cop only my

[58:12] appearance change I could

[58:13] change their perception.

[58:13] Well, guess what?

[58:14] According to her interview when

[58:18] that day came she received

[58:19] nothing but accepted.

[58:19] She said she made herself

[58:20] available to officers who have

[58:23] questions even personal ones in

[58:24] the hope that would help them

[58:25] better understand what being

[58:25] transgender means and what

[58:30] bravery she had.

[58:31] Unfortunately the public didn't

[58:31] react as well but she felt

[58:35] completely supported by

[58:36] the standing police department.

[58:37] She had to deal with public

[58:38] members who were coming in

[58:38] calling for her resignation.

[58:42] But the police department stood

[58:43] strong and she stayed out

[58:44] working at a traffic cop for

[58:44] quite a few years after that.

[58:48] She's now that other department

[58:48] But I'm just so proud to say

[58:49] they can help reverse that

[58:53] history making sure that trans

[58:54] people are treated as people as

[58:55] they should be.

[59:00] I also want to now recognize

[59:01] item 32 Legal Administrative

[59:01] assistant to David three Day

[59:02] And Cindy, if you'd like to

[59:07] come up to the podium I know

[59:07] you hear him.

[59:07] >> There you are.

[59:08] Come on up, City.

[59:19] City is I am honored to join

[59:20] the city attorney Heather

[59:21] Ferber and Counselor Ocampo in

[59:25] recognizing Sydney Victory Day

[59:25] in the more than 40 years of

[59:26] dedicated service you provide

[59:31] to the city of San Diego.

[59:31] I'm Cindy began her career in

[59:32] 1985 and serving on the police

[59:33] department's Patio Fire Rescue

[59:37] department and now in

[59:37] the city's attorney's office.

[59:38] Throughout her career she has

[59:39] earned the respect of

[59:39] colleagues including me When I

[59:42] was a deputy city attorney for

[59:43] her professionalism, attention

[59:43] to detail and commitment to

[59:44] public service.

[59:48] You have also been a trusted

[59:48] resource for colleagues always

[59:49] willing to share your knowledge

[59:50] to help others, always willing

[59:54] to share your knowledge with us

[59:55] Council members as you have

[59:55] prepared many closed session

[59:56] briefings over the years.

[1:00:00] I know your contributions will

[1:00:01] continue beyond your

[1:00:01] retirement.

[1:00:02] You have created manuals

[1:00:06] templates, databases, training

[1:00:07] materials to help the new city

[1:00:08] attorney and assistance coming

[1:00:08] up in the city attorney's

[1:00:13] office.

[1:00:14] You also help to navigate us

[1:00:14] through the challenges of 2020

[1:00:17] when you transition city

[1:00:17] council meetings and three

[1:00:18] virtual format including our

[1:00:19] closed session meetings.

[1:00:24] You are such a great example of

[1:00:24] public service and dedication.

[1:00:25] We're going to MISS You but

[1:00:26] with the remainder of my time

[1:00:26] If you'd like to say anything

[1:00:29] please please the microphone.

[1:00:31] I just want to say it's been an

[1:00:31] honor and a privilege to be an

[1:00:32] employee of the city of San

[1:00:36] Diego.

[1:00:37] I've always learned from where

[1:00:38] I've been People do good work

[1:00:43] for the city and especially in

[1:00:44] the attorney's office.

[1:00:44] I've had two stints there and I

[1:00:49] wish people understand how hard

[1:00:50] the attorneys work and doing

[1:00:50] the right thing for the city

[1:00:55] And it's just been a joy to

[1:00:55] work with so many wonderful

[1:00:56] attorneys and staff including

[1:00:57] when you and I have interacted

[1:01:01] on a few occasions, Marty and I

[1:01:02] would say the work I'm most

[1:01:02] proud of was coming through

[1:01:03] the transition.

[1:01:07] It was a lot Some of you all

[1:01:08] who are here remember how we

[1:01:12] got through But it's it's a joy

[1:01:13] and I'm going to MISS

[1:01:13] The people.

[1:01:14] I'm going to MISS The work And

[1:01:15] I've told so many of my

[1:01:18] colleagues it's hard to leave

[1:01:19] when you love what you do and

[1:01:19] you love who you're doing it

[1:01:24] for But it's time to move on.

[1:01:25] >> But I will never forget my

[1:01:41] time here.

[1:01:54] Thank you.

[1:01:54] Thank you very much.

[1:01:55] And that concludes my comments.

[1:01:55] All right.

[1:01:56] Thank you.

[1:01:58] Councilmember Marvel.

[1:01:59] And we'll turn it over to our

[1:02:00] city attorney for a few words.

[1:02:01] Thank you so much.

[1:02:04] First it's my privilege to

[1:02:05] congratulate mj on 100 years of

[1:02:05] service and thank their

[1:02:06] leadership for all their hard

[1:02:09] work on behalf of the city and

[1:02:10] its employees including

[1:02:11] the more than 200 mta

[1:02:11] represented employees in

[1:02:15] the city attorney's office.

[1:02:16] But today it is my honor to

[1:02:17] celebrate the career and

[1:02:17] service of one of those

[1:02:21] dedicated mta members and a key

[1:02:22] member of our team at the city

[1:02:23] Attorney's office Andy McNary.

[1:02:23] Since 1985 Cindy has been a

[1:02:28] steady positive force in so

[1:02:28] many departments in the city

[1:02:29] spending I think most of her

[1:02:30] time with the city attorney's

[1:02:32] office.

[1:02:33] She's the kind of person who

[1:02:34] makes things easier for

[1:02:34] everyone creating tools,

[1:02:35] manuals and resources that

[1:02:38] people still use today.

[1:02:38] Even on the eve of her

[1:02:39] retirement she is working on

[1:02:40] finalizing an updated ordinance

[1:02:43] drafting manual for our

[1:02:44] deputies and legal

[1:02:45] administrative assistant which

[1:02:49] is going to be fantastic.

[1:02:50] When the pandemic turned

[1:02:50] everything upside down, Cindy

[1:02:51] helped us move the city council

[1:02:51] meetings online.

[1:02:55] She also helped us move all of

[1:02:55] our paper routing processes.

[1:02:56] Attorneys love paper.

[1:02:56] She helped move all those

[1:03:00] online as well so we could make

[1:03:01] sure the city kept running

[1:03:01] smoothly.

[1:03:02] I will never forget calling

[1:03:05] Cindy during covid from my

[1:03:06] house about an issue with

[1:03:06] the housing ordinance package

[1:03:09] that was easily over 100 pages

[1:03:10] and I was losing my mind on how

[1:03:10] to get this thing done.

[1:03:15] Cindy jumped in to help get

[1:03:16] the ordinance on the right

[1:03:16] track and help me meet some

[1:03:17] really tight deadlines on

[1:03:17] the project.

[1:03:20] And I know I'm not the only

[1:03:20] person in the office who has

[1:03:21] benefited from Cindy's

[1:03:22] generosity and willingness to

[1:03:22] help.

[1:03:25] She's always there for her

[1:03:26] coworkers sharing her knowledge

[1:03:26] and lending a hand.

[1:03:27] People trust her and trust and

[1:03:31] she has earned that trust and

[1:03:31] she has earned that through

[1:03:32] years of hard work and

[1:03:32] integrity.

[1:03:36] Now Cindy, you're heading into

[1:03:36] retirement.

[1:03:37] Your cheerful attitude and can

[1:03:38] do spirit will be missed.

[1:03:41] We're so excited about your

[1:03:42] retirement plans and we know

[1:03:43] that you're going to make

[1:03:43] the most of it.

[1:03:44] Thank you for everything that

[1:03:46] you've done for San Diego.

[1:03:47] We're so grateful for your

[1:03:48] dedication, public service and

[1:03:48] the positive way you showed up

[1:03:51] every day willing to help and

[1:03:52] make a real difference.

[1:03:57] >> Congratulations.

[1:04:01] Thank you, MADAM City Attorney

[1:04:02] .

[1:04:03] >> And I'm going to turn over

[1:04:03] to city clerk for a few words

[1:04:04] as well.

[1:04:04] Thank you.

[1:04:08] Council PRESIDENT I never speak

[1:04:08] during proclamations but really

[1:04:09] just want to take a moment.

[1:04:10] For Cindy McNary Day I just

[1:04:12] wanted to thank you from

[1:04:13] the bottom of my heart and

[1:04:14] the office of the City Clerk

[1:04:14] for the countless hours you

[1:04:17] have worked alongside our

[1:04:18] deputy city clerks, our

[1:04:18] legislative recorders and all

[1:04:19] of our office to ensure that

[1:04:22] the city's record is always

[1:04:23] accurate and complete.

[1:04:24] You have done it all with such

[1:04:24] grace, kindness and

[1:04:25] professionalism.

[1:04:28] The legacy you are leaving

[1:04:28] behind with your kindness and

[1:04:32] joy I hope spreads through all

[1:04:33] .

[1:04:33] Continuing to work with our

[1:04:34] office.

[1:04:34] But the ordinance drafting

[1:04:38] manual as I mentioned by

[1:04:38] the city attorney is really

[1:04:39] your nuggets your legacy which

[1:04:43] I will call the McNairy manual

[1:04:43] from here forth because your

[1:04:44] knowledge, dedication and

[1:04:48] attention to detail are now

[1:04:48] part of that resource and will

[1:04:49] continue to guide and support

[1:04:50] others and our office.

[1:04:53] You definitely made a

[1:04:53] difference and I thank you for

[1:04:54] all your work for the office

[1:04:54] and for the city.

[1:05:00] Thank you Cindy.

[1:05:01] >> All right.

[1:05:01] Thank you, City Clerk And now

[1:05:03] we've got a council member Eli

[1:05:08] Rivera.

[1:05:09] >> Thank you, Council

[1:05:09] PRESIDENT.

[1:05:10] Thank you to my colleagues for

[1:05:13] bringing these proclamations

[1:05:13] forward.

[1:05:18] I'll start with our municipal

[1:05:18] Employees Association Hundred

[1:05:19] Anniversary Day.

[1:05:21] I'm very, very proud to be

[1:05:22] joining the mayor and my

[1:05:27] colleagues with this.

[1:05:27] A lot has been said about

[1:05:28] everything that he does for its

[1:05:29] members.

[1:05:32] I'm going to focus a bit more

[1:05:32] on why having such a strong

[1:05:37] union is so good for the public

[1:05:41] In a city that has long has a

[1:05:42] long history of villainizing

[1:05:45] public employees and making

[1:05:46] the problems of the city

[1:05:51] the result of city workers and

[1:05:52] not the result of poor

[1:05:56] leadership or dishonesty by

[1:05:56] politicians.

[1:06:01] You have been in a very, very

[1:06:01] tough spot for a very long time

[1:06:05] and despite that I have never

[1:06:06] flinched in being committed to

[1:06:07] your roles And those are roles

[1:06:11] that sometimes are front facing

[1:06:11] the librarians that people love

[1:06:15] and and folks like that but

[1:06:16] also even more often are people

[1:06:20] behind the scenes And none of

[1:06:20] the public services that people

[1:06:24] see need and appreciate would

[1:06:25] be provided without public

[1:06:26] servants providing those

[1:06:29] services and as has been

[1:06:30] mentioned before, the city

[1:06:30] couldn't do it in the way that

[1:06:31] we do it.

[1:06:34] We couldn't strive to be better

[1:06:35] without the expertise that you

[1:06:35] all provide.

[1:06:36] Without the commitment to

[1:06:39] public service that you have

[1:06:40] And oftentimes it's been done

[1:06:43] despite not being paid in a

[1:06:44] manner that is competitive with

[1:06:45] other cities directly next to

[1:06:48] ours.

[1:06:49] So thank you for everything you

[1:06:49] do and have done.

[1:06:53] I'm deeply appreciative for all

[1:06:53] of you.

[1:06:58] I'll now transition to our next

[1:06:58] proclamation Item 31

[1:06:59] Transgender History Month.

[1:07:03] Thank you to my colleagues and

[1:07:03] Mayor Gloria for bringing this

[1:07:04] one forward.

[1:07:08] I'm very proud to support

[1:07:08] the proclamation.

[1:07:12] I want to say thank you to our

[1:07:13] Trenton transgender community

[1:07:13] for your courage, your

[1:07:16] resilience, your creativity and

[1:07:17] the inspiration you provide to

[1:07:21] everyone to be our full

[1:07:21] authentic selves.

[1:07:22] There's also a chance here to

[1:07:26] honor the read The two

[1:07:27] recognize that gender gender

[1:07:28] diversity is not new to San

[1:07:28] Diego.

[1:07:31] The community people who have

[1:07:32] called this land home for

[1:07:32] thousands of years hold their

[1:07:35] own traditions recognizing

[1:07:36] gender beyond the binary in

[1:07:41] what many communities today

[1:07:41] call to spirit.

[1:07:42] And when we celebrate

[1:07:42] transgender San Diego, we're

[1:07:45] also honoring a history of

[1:07:46] gender that predates the city

[1:07:47] itself.

[1:07:47] So I'm glad to stand in support

[1:07:51] of this proclamation And every

[1:07:52] transgender San Diego And DR.

[1:07:53] Jen, you said it very well to

[1:07:55] our transgender community.

[1:07:56] We see you.

[1:07:56] We love you.

[1:07:57] We appreciate you.

[1:08:00] And then last but certainly not

[1:08:05] least, Cindy, thank you for

[1:08:05] the service you provided to

[1:08:06] the city.

[1:08:06] It's I'm so glad that you're

[1:08:10] here on the same day as mayor

[1:08:11] was was recognized because you

[1:08:14] are the embodiment of a public

[1:08:18] servant who for 40 years has

[1:08:19] done jobs that are oftentimes

[1:08:23] not appreciated by the public

[1:08:24] but are essential to making

[1:08:24] sure that the public gets what

[1:08:29] they they need and is just a

[1:08:29] model for what public service

[1:08:30] looks like.

[1:08:31] So thank you so much for

[1:08:34] everything that you've done.

[1:08:35] We deeply appreciate it.

[1:08:36] And thank you to the city

[1:08:38] attorney forever Councilor

[1:08:39] providing Wolpert and Catherine

[1:08:40] Campo for recognizing that that

[1:08:40] work as well.

[1:08:43] And I'll just conclude by

[1:08:48] saying, you know having

[1:08:49] the level of appreciation that

[1:08:53] I just saw from City Attorney

[1:08:54] Ferber and the clerk says a lot

[1:08:58] about the quality of work that

[1:08:59] you do.

[1:09:03] I know that the clerk has a

[1:09:04] very, very detailed eye.

[1:09:08] And and just a very, very good

[1:09:08] sign of the commitment to your

[1:09:13] job and everything that you

[1:09:14] have put into it for so long.

[1:09:14] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:09:15] All right.

[1:09:15] Thank you.

[1:09:17] Council member Eli Rivera.

[1:09:18] And now we'll go next next to

[1:09:19] council member Moreno.

[1:09:19] Thank you.

[1:09:22] I'll start off with item number

[1:09:22] 31.

[1:09:26] Transgender History Month to

[1:09:27] the transgender community.

[1:09:31] Vivian loves you and my whole

[1:09:31] family loves you.

[1:09:32] Item number 32 Legal

[1:09:36] Administrative assistant Cindy

[1:09:37] McNary De Thank you for your

[1:09:37] service.

[1:09:41] I think I can't say anything

[1:09:41] else.

[1:09:42] I will MISS All your emails and

[1:09:46] congratulations on retirement

[1:09:47] at such a young age.

[1:09:51] I would also like to say I

[1:09:51] think that's a that's a

[1:09:52] demonstration of of all

[1:09:55] the hard work that MAY does

[1:09:56] when we have such a wonderful

[1:10:00] human being that gets to retire

[1:10:01] and enjoy the rest of her life.

[1:10:01] I hear every day is Saturday

[1:10:05] I'll be joining you in DECEMBER

[1:10:05] .

[1:10:09] >> Moving on to item number 30

[1:10:09] San Diego Municipal Employees

[1:10:10] Association 100th anniversary

[1:10:14] day.

[1:10:14] Congratulations mda.

[1:10:17] When I first started working at

[1:10:18] City Hall, our city employees

[1:10:22] were vilified by elected

[1:10:23] officials who sat on this very

[1:10:27] dais and also by the by

[1:10:27] the media.

[1:10:28] They denigrated our city staff.

[1:10:31] In my 16 year tenure I've had

[1:10:32] the pleasure of meeting many

[1:10:36] hard working dedicated meaa

[1:10:37] members who have given up so

[1:10:41] much as public servants.

[1:10:42] I'm proud to have been a small

[1:10:46] part of the unwinding of prop b

[1:10:46] and thank you for your

[1:10:50] partnership And also I trust

[1:10:51] all my votes regarding mta

[1:10:52] members has demonstrated my

[1:10:56] unwavering commitment to our

[1:10:56] city workers.

[1:10:57] >> Thank you.

[1:10:57] All right.

[1:10:57] Thank you.

[1:11:01] Council member Moreno.

[1:11:01] And with that we have a motion

[1:11:05] by myself to move

[1:11:06] the proclamation seconded by

[1:11:06] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

[1:11:09] Clerk Please call the roll.

[1:11:09] >> I'm sorry.

[1:11:10] The voting system Please cast

[1:11:13] your vote.

[1:11:19] Working.

[1:11:20] >> My apologies, COUNCILMAN

[1:11:20] Campbell.

[1:11:21] We'll look at it over

[1:11:21] the recess.

[1:11:24] Would you like to let me know

[1:11:24] your vote?

[1:11:24] Yes.

[1:11:28] I vote yes.

[1:11:32] >> That does pass unanimously 8

[1:11:32] to 0 with Councilmember Campo

[1:11:33] absent.

[1:11:33] >> Thank you, Council

[1:11:34] PRESIDENT.

[1:11:34] All right.

[1:11:34] Thank you.

[1:11:37] And with that we will now pause

[1:11:38] for photos and we will start

[1:11:39] with item 30 San Diego

[1:11:42] Municipal Employees Association

[1:11:42] 100th anniversary day.

[1:13:44] >> So if we could join us in

[1:20:44] ready okay, we will get on with

[1:20:44] the rest of the council's

[1:20:48] business and proceed with

[1:20:49] the approval of the consent

[1:20:49] items with the exception of

[1:20:53] item 55 which I will be pulling

[1:20:54] from the consent agenda to be

[1:20:58] heard later this morning after

[1:20:58] our morning discussion item 330

[1:21:03] So again item 55 will be pulled

[1:21:04] and will be heard after our

[1:21:07] morning discussion item 330.

[1:21:08] So are there any other request

[1:21:11] to pull items by the council

[1:21:12] members not seeing any such

[1:21:12] request?

[1:21:13] Clerk Please proceed with

[1:21:17] public comment on the consent

[1:21:17] items.

[1:21:18] >> Thank you.

[1:21:20] Council PRESIDENT Please Now

[1:21:21] each speaker will have one

[1:21:21] minute per item per person.

[1:21:22] If you would like to speak on

[1:21:23] three or more items you will

[1:21:26] have a maximum of three minutes

[1:21:26] for those participating

[1:21:27] virtually that are part of an

[1:21:30] organized presentation should

[1:21:31] raise their hand in the virtual

[1:21:32] queue at this time.

[1:21:32] The consent agenda includes

[1:21:36] items 1050 through 62 minus

[1:21:40] item 55 that was pulled 100

[1:21:40] through 112.

[1:21:43] We received comments on items

[1:21:44] 54 two opposed via our e

[1:21:44] comment form which have been

[1:21:48] distributed to the Council.

[1:21:49] Also let me note for the record

[1:21:50] the potential appointments that

[1:21:53] are on the agenda this morning.

[1:21:54] Item 112 is the potential

[1:21:55] appointment of Kay Hobson and

[1:21:59] reappointment of Nick Galeano

[1:21:59] to the Consolidated Plan

[1:22:02] Advisory Board for terms ending

[1:22:03] JULY 1st, 2028 starting with

[1:22:09] Jacob Lewis.

[1:22:10] Edwards We actually did not

[1:22:10] have any organized

[1:22:11] presentations for the consent

[1:22:11] agenda.

[1:22:13] Jacob as we are speaking please

[1:22:16] come forward Items 5354 or 57

[1:22:17] you will have three minutes.

[1:22:18] Please proceed when you get

[1:22:18] there.

[1:22:19] But if Joyce Sonata can come up

[1:22:21] to the front row allegedly

[1:22:25] Audra Isabel okay.

[1:22:26] Paula Kruger and Laurie Saldana

[1:22:27] if you can all please come up

[1:22:31] to the front row That'd be

[1:22:31] great.

[1:22:32] >> Please proceed.

[1:22:32] Good morning, Council men and

[1:22:33] women.

[1:22:35] Thank you for Let me speak upon

[1:22:36] up for you today I'm speaking

[1:22:40] on these agenda items and they

[1:22:40] are amendments and prior to

[1:22:44] recess I spoke how important

[1:22:45] amendments are and I spoke upon

[1:22:49] the importance of amending

[1:22:50] the 27 budget is what I was

[1:22:55] referring to of of amending And

[1:22:59] while I'm here before you today

[1:23:00] is to consider amending the 27

[1:23:05] budget to include food The Neal

[1:23:09] de Goods Center's funding It's

[1:23:14] a homeless resource center for

[1:23:15] So we're really asking you to

[1:23:16] speak on the three items that

[1:23:16] you identified not a you can

[1:23:19] talk about it on agenda public

[1:23:23] comment on budget request You

[1:23:24] need to speak specifically to

[1:23:25] the three items that you

[1:23:28] identified not just generally

[1:23:29] about a minutes.

[1:23:29] Okay.

[1:23:32] Thank you.

[1:23:38] Joyce Any other Joyce anybody

[1:23:39] you're speaking on?

[1:23:41] 5051, 52, 58, 61 and 111.

[1:23:41] You'll have three minutes.

[1:23:45] Please proceed.

[1:23:46] Okay.

[1:23:46] On 50 Yes.

[1:23:50] To exempt a program coordinator

[1:23:51] position in I t for classified

[1:23:51] service.

[1:23:55] Yes To oversee cybersecurity

[1:24:00] policies and control that

[1:24:00] govern the security management

[1:24:05] of info systems.

[1:24:06] I can see that word for all

[1:24:10] across all city departments so

[1:24:10] love it.

[1:24:14] Thank you so much.

[1:24:14] 51 Yes To approve the fourth

[1:24:15] Amendment between the city and

[1:24:19] San Diego Futures Foundation to

[1:24:23] provide accessible community

[1:24:24] based digital skills training

[1:24:28] through the digital literacy

[1:24:28] program.

[1:24:28] Yes.

[1:24:32] Reach out Lift up everyone to

[1:24:33] ride the fast train into our

[1:24:38] new world Evolution for all

[1:24:43] Number 52 Yes to rev track

[1:24:44] direct your bank we have

[1:24:48] the back of I.T.

[1:24:49] Please keep the public in

[1:24:53] the info loop of I.T of Excuse

[1:24:54] me I did this very fast late

[1:24:58] last night I key into our new

[1:25:03] world of virtual reality.

[1:25:04] We need the real ness of all of

[1:25:09] you I.T the real ness.

[1:25:12] Please help us stay focused on

[1:25:13] 58 Yes to the Sixth Amendment

[1:25:16] Cooperative procurement

[1:25:17] contract with Real rig Pacific

[1:25:21] Company for waste carts,

[1:25:22] cycling carts and so forth a

[1:25:30] big yes to curb Brady Excuse me

[1:25:31] and the rest of

[1:25:35] the environmental services

[1:25:36] Department Team 61 Yes to

[1:25:40] the Office of the City Clerk

[1:25:41] for Electric Filing System with

[1:25:45] Pasadena Consulting Group will

[1:25:45] help you as much as we can.

[1:25:49] City Clerk We love all of you.

[1:25:50] And lastly number 111 Dear

[1:25:54] Office of the city attorney

[1:25:58] people $40 million settlement

[1:25:59] It's hard for me to speak.

[1:26:03] Please please help the public

[1:26:04] see through the clouds of

[1:26:08] litigation so we can understand

[1:26:09] stand the edge of the risks

[1:26:13] that shape our decisions.

[1:26:17] These decisions are for one

[1:26:17] people one family and one San

[1:26:18] Diego.

[1:26:21] It's been a great morning,

[1:26:22] hasn't it?

[1:26:22] Isn't this a great life?

[1:26:27] I'm so glad to be here with all

[1:26:27] of you.

[1:26:28] Love to all Thank you.

[1:26:32] Your next is allegedly Audra

[1:26:33] you'll be speaking on time is

[1:26:36] 5456, 58, 59, 104 to 111.

[1:26:39] You'll have three minutes An

[1:26:40] item 55 since it was pulled.

[1:26:40] We'll call you up then.

[1:26:41] Great.

[1:26:42] Thanks.

[1:26:47] Thanks for pulling that new Oh

[1:26:48] yeah.

[1:26:48] >> So this military equipment I

[1:26:52] just find it interesting You

[1:26:53] guys want to use that on

[1:26:53] the people We had our border

[1:26:57] invaded and nothing just or

[1:26:57] easier on the people.

[1:26:58] I don't know if you guys know

[1:26:59] that Trump is going to do

[1:27:02] nuclear weapons testing in our

[1:27:02] nation.

[1:27:03] He just opened it up hasn't

[1:27:05] been done since 1992.

[1:27:06] Wonder if they'll protect us

[1:27:07] against that?

[1:27:07] Who knows?

[1:27:10] But it's good, right?

[1:27:11] It's good radiation all around

[1:27:15] covering the entire nation So

[1:27:15] yes.

[1:27:20] So for 56 in this zone

[1:27:20] the meter zone boundaries I

[1:27:21] think instead of having

[1:27:25] employees being exempt from

[1:27:26] parking we should actually

[1:27:26] charge more, you know, because

[1:27:30] you guys get your city trucks

[1:27:31] that are exempt.

[1:27:32] You know, the mayor goes in

[1:27:32] parks in the red zone.

[1:27:35] It's like GOD forbid somebody

[1:27:36] else do that the danger zone.

[1:27:36] But it's cool if you're

[1:27:39] the mayor you can do it And

[1:27:40] then let's see 58 This is

[1:27:45] interesting you guys always

[1:27:45] love exceeding your not to

[1:27:46] exceed contracts And who would

[1:27:49] have thought one would start

[1:27:50] out at $3 Million and go up to

[1:27:53] 100 six and it still says not

[1:27:57] to exceed right I mean it's

[1:27:58] going to go up to 500 who knows

[1:27:59] because you guys are already

[1:28:06] getting you know 129,000,001 in

[1:28:07] 600,000 just from the fees that

[1:28:08] you guys are giving people and

[1:28:08] you're putting these rfid chips

[1:28:11] in there which is real

[1:28:12] interesting so that people can

[1:28:13] have their, you know, track

[1:28:16] trash tracked and traced and

[1:28:17] you know, have a gps location

[1:28:18] exact time, you know, So if you

[1:28:21] want to go in there and see

[1:28:22] what's in their trash and I'm

[1:28:23] wondering if you guys are going

[1:28:24] to do weight tracking which

[1:28:26] allows for a weight based fee.

[1:28:27] I'm sure that will come at some

[1:28:27] point.

[1:28:31] But this is very terrifying as

[1:28:32] we are collecting everybody's

[1:28:33] data and we have all of this

[1:28:37] surveillance and this goes all

[1:28:37] the way up to the people like

[1:28:38] BlackRock, Vanguard, State

[1:28:41] Street, JPMorgan, you know all

[1:28:42] the people that you guys love

[1:28:42] so much.

[1:28:43] >> And then with 59, I'm

[1:28:47] wondering, you know with

[1:28:48] the school board districts and

[1:28:52] this is for elections but I'm

[1:28:53] wondering if you can change

[1:28:57] the municipal code for

[1:28:58] the school to ensure that

[1:28:58] pedophiles don't get hired

[1:29:03] because what Scott Wiener is

[1:29:03] attempting to do is to allow

[1:29:09] pedophiles to work in any kind

[1:29:09] of like up here.

[1:29:10] It could be it could be on a

[1:29:11] school board.

[1:29:11] Right.

[1:29:14] Not a rapist, not somebody who

[1:29:14] rapes like an adult.

[1:29:15] But you know, if they rape

[1:29:19] children, it's cool we can hire

[1:29:20] them.

[1:29:20] So I think that's something

[1:29:21] that you guys should work to

[1:29:24] implement to ensure that we're

[1:29:25] not hiring pedophiles because

[1:29:25] that happens It happens with

[1:29:29] you know, teachers aides and

[1:29:30] stuff like that And we're not

[1:29:31] ensuring that that children are

[1:29:35] not getting molested during nap

[1:29:35] time.

[1:29:36] So I feel like you guys could

[1:29:40] do something better to, you

[1:29:40] know, ensure if you do care

[1:29:41] about kids which you guys have

[1:29:45] them And so it's like you're

[1:29:45] trusting them with people that

[1:29:46] you probably shouldn't Maybe

[1:29:47] you should do more about that.

[1:29:47] Thank you for that concluding

[1:29:51] comment.

[1:29:52] Isabelle Kay You're speaking on

[1:29:55] items 54 109 so you'll have two

[1:29:55] minutes.

[1:29:56] Please proceed.

[1:29:56] Thank you.

[1:30:00] Good morning.

[1:30:00] Council PRESIDENT LaCava,

[1:30:01] Council members and staff.

[1:30:05] I wasn't actually planning to

[1:30:06] be here at all today.

[1:30:07] I was just a resident of La

[1:30:11] Hoya Paris.

[1:30:12] Item number 109 and apparently

[1:30:17] we are attorney have settled

[1:30:18] with you for $10 million to

[1:30:22] rebuild 12 units that were

[1:30:23] unnecessarily damaged and red

[1:30:27] tagged and have to be torn down

[1:30:28] because you didn't act in time

[1:30:33] to prevent a Ryan from just

[1:30:34] letting our slide and damage

[1:30:38] all those buildings.

[1:30:39] And now it's been three years

[1:30:40] when people have had nowhere to

[1:30:40] live.

[1:30:44] You stop supporting the poor

[1:30:45] residents of those buildings or

[1:30:45] the people who rented them out

[1:30:50] and it's really been a mess And

[1:30:51] I don't think $10 million is

[1:30:52] enough And what are we going to

[1:30:56] do if it costs more?

[1:30:57] However, I was looking through

[1:31:01] the agenda and I came across

[1:31:02] item number 54 which I cannot

[1:31:03] believe that you are going to

[1:31:07] go ahead and acquire more

[1:31:08] military hardware.

[1:31:08] There's no cost associated with

[1:31:13] it in the agenda.

[1:31:14] And I guess the idea is to kill

[1:31:15] first and try to get to

[1:31:19] the bottom of the solution

[1:31:19] the problems of mental health

[1:31:20] and homelessness after for

[1:31:26] GOD's sake stop going down this

[1:31:26] path of supporting the military

[1:31:31] industrial complex and get

[1:31:31] the money and that effort and

[1:31:32] those expertise into

[1:31:32] the community.

[1:31:38] Stop militarizing our city.

[1:31:38] Please.

[1:31:38] Thank you.

[1:31:39] Oh, I guess I have a little bit

[1:31:40] more time.

[1:31:43] I think more significant really

[1:31:44] than the budget crisis here is

[1:31:49] a common sense crisis among

[1:31:49] decision makers and an empathy

[1:31:55] and integrity crisis to be very

[1:31:56] honest.

[1:31:56] Look at what is going on.

[1:32:02] You are funding for open

[1:32:03] military weapon for thank you

[1:32:03] statement.

[1:32:04] Paul Kruger if you can please

[1:32:07] come forward.

[1:32:08] 5658 12421 11.

[1:32:08] You'll have three minutes.

[1:32:09] Please proceed.

[1:32:13] Thank you very much.

[1:32:14] I want to first on item 56

[1:32:19] which is record keeping

[1:32:19] housekeeping for the parking

[1:32:20] meter zones to urge all of you

[1:32:25] when you are reviewing

[1:32:26] the installation of parking

[1:32:31] meters in residential areas to

[1:32:32] please listen to the businesses

[1:32:36] and the residents in those

[1:32:37] areas who would not.

[1:32:38] And for example in my area of

[1:32:43] Talmage Kensington would not

[1:32:43] strongly oppose a reasonable

[1:32:49] meter times and rates of say 10

[1:32:49] A.M. To 6 P.M..

[1:32:54] Those meters though are from 8

[1:32:55] P.M. To 8 P.M. And it's totally

[1:32:56] impractical for a restaurant or

[1:33:00] a business that's going to go

[1:33:05] for more than two hours in that

[1:33:05] timeframe.

[1:33:06] So please just listen to what

[1:33:10] the community tells you on

[1:33:10] those issues.

[1:33:15] On the $3 million increase on

[1:33:20] item 58, the $3 million

[1:33:20] increase in the waste in our

[1:33:21] recycling and trash bins.

[1:33:25] Two things One is council

[1:33:26] member Bowen Wolpert opposed

[1:33:27] this last time Assuming that

[1:33:31] you will oppose it this time

[1:33:32] could you please once again

[1:33:36] explain why And on this you

[1:33:37] know I was sitting in

[1:33:42] the audience after I asked you

[1:33:43] to please give more

[1:33:46] consideration to how did this

[1:33:47] contract become $106 million

[1:33:48] And I was approached

[1:33:52] unsolicited by a fellow who

[1:33:53] identified himself as a member

[1:33:53] as an employee of

[1:33:54] the Treasurer's department and

[1:33:59] said you need to keep looking

[1:33:59] at this.

[1:34:00] I'm not looking at it.

[1:34:01] I don't have the expertise.

[1:34:04] But what does that say about

[1:34:05] what's going on with this

[1:34:05] expenditure?

[1:34:11] And I would urge you and your

[1:34:11] roles as council members if

[1:34:12] the mayor is not going to take

[1:34:16] the initiative to review this,

[1:34:17] please there's something going

[1:34:17] on here I think.

[1:34:22] And then lastly,

[1:34:27] the settlements It's more than

[1:34:28] $57 million in settlements and

[1:34:31] these items 104 to 111 And some

[1:34:36] of them, you know, at least $7

[1:34:37] million are negligence on

[1:34:37] potholes.

[1:34:38] Another the $6.5 million for a

[1:34:42] scooter fatality, $40 million

[1:34:47] for the water rates, $10

[1:34:47] million for the broken water

[1:34:48] main that caused the flooding.

[1:34:53] Something is wrong here When we

[1:34:53] end up as taxpayers having to

[1:34:58] pay these huge settlements $56

[1:34:59] million and we're down here

[1:35:04] week after week after week

[1:35:05] approving these these

[1:35:11] settlements or jury verdicts.

[1:35:12] >> We need to do more about

[1:35:12] this.

[1:35:13] Thank you very much, Laurie,

[1:35:17] for dying African.

[1:35:18] Please come forward.

[1:35:18] You're speaking on 51 5460

[1:35:23] (210)010-8010 nine You'll have

[1:35:23] three minutes.

[1:35:23] Please proceed.

[1:35:24] Yes.

[1:35:24] First of all, I would say we

[1:35:28] just spent over an hour an hour

[1:35:29] on proclamations and we have

[1:35:32] less time to deal with 27

[1:35:33] items, maybe 1 or 2 less.

[1:35:34] So I personally find this

[1:35:39] practice even though I

[1:35:40] litigated on the proclamations

[1:35:40] nearly ten years ago to have

[1:35:45] the be take place in chambers,

[1:35:46] this is not a way to have

[1:35:46] substantive discussion and I

[1:35:51] would be sitting there if you

[1:35:52] really believe as you read a

[1:35:53] statement about valuing public

[1:35:53] comments you're not giving as

[1:35:57] much time to do that.

[1:35:58] So I don't know what the value

[1:35:58] actually is.

[1:35:59] i have indicated several items

[1:36:03] here and 51 the return on

[1:36:04] investment of digital literacy

[1:36:08] is extremely high So I

[1:36:09] absolutely support that.

[1:36:10] In contrast, item 54 I oppose

[1:36:10] because the return on

[1:36:15] investment of buying military

[1:36:16] resources to police our

[1:36:16] citizens with higher and higher

[1:36:21] grades of intensity a pepper

[1:36:22] ball three of I mean how about

[1:36:26] the escalation to say that

[1:36:27] there is no reasonable

[1:36:28] alternative for public safety

[1:36:28] is just frankly impossible to

[1:36:32] believe there are alternatives

[1:36:33] And you're going to see more

[1:36:34] and more litigation as people

[1:36:38] are harmed by these military

[1:36:39] grade not to mention how are

[1:36:40] you training police officers

[1:36:40] who maybe don't have military

[1:36:46] experience and many of them do?

[1:36:46] What is the cost of training

[1:36:47] them to you safely use if there

[1:36:51] is such a thing some of this

[1:36:51] equipment.

[1:36:51] Okay.

[1:36:52] You pulled one of the items

[1:36:53] here to the afternoon jumping

[1:36:58] ahead I put in a slip for item

[1:36:58] 62 sole source contract for

[1:37:03] emergency storm drain projects.

[1:37:03] Our coastal bluffs are eroding

[1:37:08] and we're about to see a

[1:37:09] massive El Nino cycle continue

[1:37:14] that erosion I remember in

[1:37:15] the 1980s I was working on

[1:37:16] building the new post office in

[1:37:19] Pacific Beach when we had

[1:37:20] the last major El Nino cycle I

[1:37:20] was a carpenter.

[1:37:21] I would show up and we would be

[1:37:21] flooded out.

[1:37:26] I watched Crystal Pier fall to

[1:37:26] pieces and we are about to

[1:37:27] watch a similar thing with our

[1:37:31] coastal bluffs.

[1:37:32] So these damages we are seeing

[1:37:33] are about to happen again in

[1:37:37] real time and these emergency

[1:37:38] repairs are insufficient and

[1:37:44] related to that, why are we

[1:37:45] giving sd any an amendment to

[1:37:50] expand capacity around

[1:37:51] the Mission Bay San Diego River

[1:37:51] area across from where Midway

[1:37:52] is being proposed and Midway

[1:37:56] development Is it related to

[1:37:57] that or is there saltwater

[1:37:57] intrusion in their existing

[1:38:02] lines and they need to expand

[1:38:03] by thousands of square feet of

[1:38:03] their easement so that they can

[1:38:08] move things into the drier

[1:38:08] ground Running out of time here

[1:38:09] let me just say Isabel has been

[1:38:14] out of her home the woman who

[1:38:14] just spoke again because

[1:38:15] the city is not doing enough on

[1:38:20] storm waters and I will speak

[1:38:21] more to that and non agenda

[1:38:21] comment.

[1:38:27] >> Thank you.

[1:38:28] >> That was all done yet we did

[1:38:29] not receive a speaker slip from

[1:38:31] you for 55 which was trailed to

[1:38:31] after 331 this morning.

[1:38:32] So if you would like to speak

[1:38:33] on that item please be sure to

[1:38:37] submit a speaker So we'll go to

[1:38:37] those participating online

[1:38:38] starting with clarification If

[1:38:39] you can please let me know

[1:38:41] which item or items you wish to

[1:38:46] speak to.

[1:38:47] >> Hi Claire Beekman I wanted

[1:38:57] to speak to items 50 5150 four

[1:38:58] and I wanted to speak to 55 But

[1:38:58] it's not going to be it's going

[1:38:59] to be pulled and talk to you

[1:39:02] later So I can just speak to it

[1:39:03] at that time.

[1:39:04] So I guess the other item I

[1:39:09] would like to possibly speak on

[1:39:10] but I MAY not have a lot to say

[1:39:13] is the item 62.

[1:39:14] >> You'll have three minutes.

[1:39:14] Please proceed.

[1:39:19] Thank you.

[1:39:20] To speak first to item 51 this

[1:39:21] was an item that was a digital

[1:39:25] literacy program.

[1:39:26] It was brought to committee a

[1:39:27] few months ago Now it seemed

[1:39:31] like a pretty good program.

[1:39:31] I was interested in it.

[1:39:37] I am still feeling that as this

[1:39:38] item has a certain way to be

[1:39:38] working to be working towards

[1:39:42] digital literacy goals of

[1:39:43] describing open accountable

[1:39:43] practices how a person can be a

[1:39:48] part of the process a

[1:39:49] technology future to describe

[1:39:50] their civil rights and civil

[1:39:55] protection ideas.

[1:39:56] It builds out the ideas of good

[1:39:56] community practices of being a

[1:40:01] good citizen you know, just our

[1:40:02] civil protections, our civil

[1:40:03] rights and it builds our good

[1:40:07] stuff And I think that should

[1:40:08] be a part of how we build our

[1:40:08] digital digital literacy

[1:40:09] programs.

[1:40:13] >> I don't know how to better

[1:40:14] say it, but I think you get

[1:40:14] the gist of what I'm trying to

[1:40:19] say and it's important and I, I

[1:40:20] think it can help young people

[1:40:20] all people I think and everyone

[1:40:21] gets enthused and excited when

[1:40:25] they able to talk about their

[1:40:25] own civil rights and

[1:40:26] constitutional rights.

[1:40:27] So good luck and how to develop

[1:40:30] that into digital literacy

[1:40:36] programs that speak to item 54

[1:40:37] military equipment under

[1:40:42] Assembly Bill 481 I just a

[1:40:43] quickly comment I felt that

[1:40:44] Councilperson pastor brought up

[1:40:44] a really good point In

[1:40:49] the previous months that sdp is

[1:40:49] a bit skimping on how they

[1:40:54] practice their open public

[1:40:54] meeting process.

[1:40:55] They MAY have technically had a

[1:40:56] legal language they technically

[1:41:00] MAY not have and there they

[1:41:01] were skipping that was clear

[1:41:02] and how to talk to the public

[1:41:06] and be accessible in their

[1:41:06] technology practices.

[1:41:07] So they had a good meeting in

[1:41:08] JULY I heard Good luck with

[1:41:12] that.

[1:41:13] It has to be very, very clear

[1:41:14] how we do our things with

[1:41:14] technology in the future.

[1:41:18] You can't just skim around it

[1:41:19] and say you're getting away

[1:41:19] with it.

[1:41:20] You have to be a real earnest

[1:41:20] effort that we're building a

[1:41:24] future of openness and

[1:41:25] accountability for ourselves as

[1:41:25] a full committee process and

[1:41:30] not just for a select few.

[1:41:31] It's important to learn that we

[1:41:31] got to keep learning that and

[1:41:32] that's how we build That helps

[1:41:36] build our better sustainable

[1:41:36] future.

[1:41:40] >> And I quickly offer item 62

[1:41:41] is I wish I had more to say.

[1:41:46] I should have more say on

[1:41:47] the item of a building

[1:41:47] emergency starting a

[1:41:48] replacement project for Crest

[1:41:52] Canyon Park System Hopefully I

[1:41:53] can just noted that this time

[1:41:53] and good luck how you can talk

[1:41:59] about it and good luck how we

[1:42:00] can talk about upcoming item 55

[1:42:00] it's been pulled and get it own

[1:42:04] special time Thank you.

[1:42:04] Thank you.

[1:42:05] Next.

[1:42:09] 7499 If you can please unmute.

[1:42:16] Oh oh does this I'd like to

[1:42:17] speak to items 52 and 61.

[1:42:18] >> You'll have two minutes.

[1:42:21] Please proceed.

[1:42:22] >> Both of these items are

[1:42:23] related to our new computer

[1:42:23] driven electronic environment

[1:42:27] but do these contracts ensure

[1:42:28] that these contractors will

[1:42:28] serve all of the people?

[1:42:29] I have to ask this because I

[1:42:33] continue We see the city giving

[1:42:34] contracts to businesses who

[1:42:35] fail to provide services to

[1:42:39] significant segments of our

[1:42:39] population.

[1:42:40] For example, the city clerk now

[1:42:41] uses a business at Seamless

[1:42:45] Vox.Com where citizens can

[1:42:45] upload their media files for

[1:42:46] this council.

[1:42:46] But the seamless Vox.Com

[1:42:51] website does not work with all

[1:42:51] web browsers.

[1:42:52] So I contacted the city about

[1:42:53] it and I was told just this

[1:42:58] morning that the support and

[1:42:58] port supported browsers for

[1:42:59] seamless docs forms are only

[1:43:03] the current versions of

[1:43:03] the major browsers So anyone

[1:43:04] with older browsers MAY not be

[1:43:05] able to upload media files for

[1:43:09] presentations to this council.

[1:43:10] Those people apparently don't

[1:43:10] matter.

[1:43:11] Let me ask would it be

[1:43:11] appropriate for the city's

[1:43:15] parking meters to only allow

[1:43:16] parking of cars built since

[1:43:16] 2020?

[1:43:17] Would it be appropriate for

[1:43:22] the city to only accept phone

[1:43:22] calls from telephones built to

[1:43:23] 2023?

[1:43:27] Would it be appropriate for

[1:43:28] the city to only accept email

[1:43:28] from software written since

[1:43:29] 2025?

[1:43:29] Of course not.

[1:43:33] Yet that's what some of your

[1:43:34] contractors are effectively

[1:43:35] doing right now Under your

[1:43:39] authority The city must realize

[1:43:40] that private businesses have

[1:43:40] agendas that are not 100%

[1:43:45] compatible with the public good

[1:43:45] .

[1:43:45] It's your duty as

[1:43:46] representatives of the people

[1:43:47] to ensure that all contracts

[1:43:51] with private businesses

[1:43:52] guarantee that all of

[1:43:52] the people are equally served.

[1:43:53] But you are failing that duty

[1:43:57] with so many of your contracts

[1:43:58] from seamless docks to

[1:43:58] the airport concession.

[1:44:03] Shame on each of you for being

[1:44:03] either too lazy or too corrupt

[1:44:04] to ensure that your contractors

[1:44:05] serve all the people.

[1:44:10] No thank you.

[1:44:10] >> Back to the manager If you

[1:44:11] can please email and let me

[1:44:15] know which item or items you

[1:44:15] wish to speak to.

[1:44:16] >> Good morning.

[1:44:20] I have three items I wanted to

[1:44:24] speak to 5354 and 58.

[1:44:25] >> Please proceed.

[1:44:25] You have three minutes.

[1:44:26] Okay, thanks.

[1:44:30] First I just wanted to say how

[1:44:31] an echo Lori Saldana has come

[1:44:32] at them.

[1:44:34] This is completely

[1:44:35] inappropriate.

[1:44:36] Just that too much together so

[1:44:41] many items and have so little

[1:44:42] conversation and no

[1:44:43] presentations about some of

[1:44:48] the items that are on the JULY

[1:44:48] 14th meeting.

[1:44:49] I think there was 30 items and

[1:44:49] like Lori said within an hour

[1:44:54] of proclamation and then like

[1:44:55] 45 minutes on 30 items it's

[1:44:55] completely inappropriate.

[1:44:59] So item 53 is the vehicle lease

[1:45:00] agreement.

[1:45:00] I was going back through my

[1:45:04] notes.

[1:45:05] It looks like SEPTEMBER 15th,

[1:45:08] 2025 we approved the $95

[1:45:09] million in medium heavy duty

[1:45:10] trucks 40 million in light

[1:45:10] duty.

[1:45:15] So it looks like we're going to

[1:45:15] do another 40 million on top of

[1:45:16] that.

[1:45:20] Everyone driving around sees

[1:45:21] all these brand new cars

[1:45:21] driving around everywhere and

[1:45:22] you're telling us we have a

[1:45:23] huge budget deficit?

[1:45:26] It's it's really silly.

[1:45:27] Like I wouldn't be buying a

[1:45:28] brand new car if my you know,

[1:45:32] if I need to reapply my entire

[1:45:33] house.

[1:45:33] And so I just wanted to say

[1:45:34] that.

[1:45:37] And I also couldn't find any

[1:45:37] documentation regarding

[1:45:38] the competitive bidding process

[1:45:43] or I think it 72 our llc dba

[1:45:44] National Authorization Fleet

[1:45:48] Group.

[1:45:49] I saw online that that OCTOBER

[1:45:54] 5th, 2016 based on the results

[1:45:54] of a competitive process in

[1:45:55] Miami-Dade County

[1:45:59] the administering agent on

[1:46:00] behalf of us communities blah

[1:46:01] blah blah entered into a

[1:46:01] contract with Pacific.

[1:46:06] Oh sorry That's down but okay

[1:46:09] sorry Running on item 34 That

[1:46:10] irony that irony we're here

[1:46:14] praising unions and the power

[1:46:15] of unions and mta and good work

[1:46:16] and thank goodness for unions

[1:46:20] while we're military the cpd

[1:46:21] who would have prevented from

[1:46:22] us from having a labor movement

[1:46:25] at all and having unions and

[1:46:26] having a middle class at all.

[1:46:31] We're completely against

[1:46:31] militarizing our our local

[1:46:35] police So it looks like we're

[1:46:36] giving them $100 million from

[1:46:40] the general fund In addition to

[1:46:40] the 18 million we get from

[1:46:41] the us.

[1:46:41] I, I also saw on the fema

[1:46:45] website that a minimum of 10%

[1:46:46] of grant money from the usa

[1:46:46] must be used dedicated to

[1:46:50] supporting collaboration

[1:46:51] between state and local law

[1:46:52] enforcement and ice through

[1:46:56] the 287 b program.

[1:46:56] Pretty sure we're in California

[1:47:00] Pretty sure we don't

[1:47:00] participate in the 287 g

[1:47:01] program so I'm not sure how

[1:47:03] we're getting funding If 10% of

[1:47:04] it has to be dedicated.

[1:47:05] The us Army needs to be

[1:47:09] dedicated to using I don't know

[1:47:12] how we got the $80 million item

[1:47:13] 58 Lastly, no explanation at

[1:47:14] the last meeting for the $3

[1:47:18] million increase to represented

[1:47:19] came up told us nothing.

[1:47:20] $3 million contract ballooned

[1:47:23] to 106 million and there was no

[1:47:24] competitive bid process that I

[1:47:24] could find online or emailing

[1:47:30] and Montana It's ridiculous.

[1:47:30] >> Thank you.

[1:47:31] Your time is concluded.

[1:47:32] The five minutes are also

[1:47:33] concluded.

[1:47:33] There are two speakers in

[1:47:34] the queue.

[1:47:34] No additional speakers will be

[1:47:35] taken.

[1:47:35] Natalie I ask you if you can

[1:47:36] please unmute and let me know

[1:47:37] which item or items you wish to

[1:47:42] speak to.

[1:47:46] >> Continental Rescue 5354 and

[1:47:46] 50 Please proceed to me.

[1:47:47] >> Yes please proceed.

[1:47:51] You have three minutes 50 354

[1:47:51] and 55.

[1:47:56] >> So the 55 was pulled from

[1:47:56] the agenda So we'll give you

[1:47:57] two minutes and then you can

[1:48:00] speak to that one at the at

[1:48:01] the appropriate time.

[1:48:01] >> Please proceed with the two

[1:48:05] items.

[1:48:09] So I do agree with having to

[1:48:10] rush through all of these items

[1:48:15] and get your thoughts together

[1:48:16] and make a comment on all of

[1:48:17] these things in a matter of a

[1:48:19] few minutes.

[1:48:24] But with this the vehicle lease

[1:48:25] agreement so we're financing

[1:48:29] with jp Morgan and Jp Morgan

[1:48:30] Chase has faced major

[1:48:34] controversy for years in

[1:48:35] the last five years who is

[1:48:39] directly associated with

[1:48:44] Jeffrey Epstein these are

[1:48:44] the things that I'm talking

[1:48:48] about when we do business with

[1:48:48] big banks.

[1:48:49] >> I don't care if they're big

[1:48:50] banks, big business that are

[1:48:53] associated with people that are

[1:48:54] directly harming our country,

[1:48:58] the world children and we're

[1:49:02] still doing contracts with this

[1:49:03] bank.

[1:49:08] So to me that just pushes

[1:49:08] everything forward And living

[1:49:13] in this inverted world it's

[1:49:13] crazy to me.

[1:49:14] I don't see how nobody is

[1:49:20] Question anything like how that

[1:49:21] still happens.

[1:49:22] This is why we're in this

[1:49:26] problem because we're

[1:49:27] associating and making it when

[1:49:31] we do business with them then

[1:49:32] we're saying it's okay that

[1:49:32] they do these things In my

[1:49:36] opinion 54 Oh man So it goes

[1:49:36] fast.

[1:49:41] Military equipment How are we

[1:49:45] going to trust that they are

[1:49:50] trained enough to use these

[1:49:50] this equipment I had direct

[1:49:55] contact with sd pd on a

[1:49:56] continuous basis and I'm going

[1:49:59] to say maybe two interactions

[1:50:03] were comfortable and I'm a 411

[1:50:03] woman Thank you.

[1:50:09] >> Thank you.

[1:50:10] Judy Strang If you can please

[1:50:10] unmute and let me know which

[1:50:11] item or items you wish to speak

[1:50:17] to, I'd like to speak to item

[1:50:21] 58 and item 104 Please proceed.

[1:50:22] I'm struggling with the sound

[1:50:26] on my computer so I hope you

[1:50:26] can hear me.

[1:50:27] I'm at work and it's always

[1:50:30] more difficult.

[1:50:31] >> We can hear you.

[1:50:32] Please proceed.

[1:50:32] Very useful to the public In my

[1:50:35] case as I was reviewing 58 and

[1:50:39] one of four in particular that

[1:50:43] when you received the agenda

[1:50:44] through the calendar you cannot

[1:50:48] use the link to open up to get

[1:50:49] the staff report.

[1:50:53] I wonder if there's a way that

[1:50:54] that can be mitigated.

[1:50:55] You have to go back and enter

[1:50:58] it separately directly so that

[1:50:59] you can read the staff report.

[1:51:03] One way this could help us in

[1:51:04] the solving the big problem is

[1:51:04] in a small problem is if you

[1:51:08] could give us just a little bit

[1:51:08] more information for example on

[1:51:12] I'm speaking to these out of

[1:51:13] order I apologize to item 1o4.

[1:51:17] It talks about the payment for

[1:51:23] a settlement that a young woman

[1:51:28] had bought her scooter at 1090

[1:51:28] Roselle Street Street.

[1:51:32] I happen to know really well

[1:51:33] and I know that probably

[1:51:34] the dangerous condition that

[1:51:34] she's responding to and there

[1:51:37] are a lot of them in that area

[1:51:38] I need to drive back and see if

[1:51:38] they've been fixed.

[1:51:42] The last time I saw a fix they

[1:51:42] took a very what could have

[1:51:46] been a very nice met walkway

[1:51:47] and instead or black asphalt I

[1:51:51] guess that somebody's idea of

[1:51:52] fixing it But if you could put

[1:51:53] more information about what

[1:51:56] that alleged was and how much

[1:51:57] the payout was then we wouldn't

[1:51:58] have to go searching in

[1:52:01] the staff report And if we

[1:52:02] could help us very quickly i

[1:52:09] too am gravely concerned about

[1:52:10] $3 million to go to

[1:52:11] the contract regarding our

[1:52:17] co-op to a procurement with

[1:52:22] the Reader Pacific Company man

[1:52:22] $3 million and we are worried

[1:52:23] about our public restrooms So

[1:52:26] some sort of disconnect there.

[1:52:27] >> Thank you.

[1:52:27] Thank you.

[1:52:28] That concludes public comment

[1:52:31] on the consent agenda.

[1:52:31] >> All right.

[1:52:32] Thank you, city Clerk.

[1:52:35] And with that we'll turn over

[1:52:36] to my council colleagues for

[1:52:37] questions, Comments Entertain a

[1:52:38] motion and we'll start with

[1:52:42] council member Campbell Oops,

[1:52:43] my apologies.

[1:52:47] I didn't Thank you.

[1:52:53] >> Council PRESIDENT I will be

[1:52:53] very brief.

[1:52:56] I would like to speak on item

[1:52:57] 111 Kay Hobson will be

[1:53:01] appointed to the Consolidated

[1:53:01] Plan Advisory Board.

[1:53:05] Kay is currently retired but

[1:53:06] prior to that she served as

[1:53:07] Director of finance for

[1:53:10] the County of San Diego and

[1:53:11] after nearly ten years of

[1:53:15] serving it then she then

[1:53:15] retired.

[1:53:19] Prior to that she was

[1:53:20] responsible for financial for

[1:53:21] financial and budgetary

[1:53:24] oversight at the county's

[1:53:25] general services purchasing

[1:53:29] contracting, housing and

[1:53:29] Community Development

[1:53:30] Redevelopment Agency Library

[1:53:33] Registrar of Voters And

[1:53:34] additionally Kay was

[1:53:35] the assistant vice PRESIDENT Of

[1:53:39] Investments at San Diego

[1:53:39] National Bank.

[1:53:43] She also volunteers on the arts

[1:53:44] District Liberty Station Board

[1:53:48] of Directors.

[1:53:49] Kaye earned her Bachelor of

[1:53:49] Arts from the University of

[1:53:52] Texas in Austin and a

[1:53:53] professional certificate in

[1:53:54] accounting from uc San Diego.

[1:53:58] Given her background in finance

[1:53:58] government I believe Kaye

[1:53:59] Hobson would be a great

[1:53:59] addition.

[1:54:03] The consolidated Plan Advisory

[1:54:04] Board and I so appreciate her

[1:54:04] willingness to serve.

[1:54:07] Thank you.

[1:54:08] >> All right.

[1:54:08] Thank you.

[1:54:09] Councilmember Campbell.

[1:54:11] Can I take that as a motion to

[1:54:12] approve the proclamation or

[1:54:12] the consent items?

[1:54:13] All right.

[1:54:13] Thank you.

[1:54:17] And we'll go next to Council

[1:54:17] Moreno.

[1:54:18] >> Thank you.

[1:54:21] I have comments on item 53

[1:54:22] the master lease agreement to

[1:54:26] finance General fund vehicles

[1:54:27] and equipment.

[1:54:27] I'd like to register a no vote

[1:54:31] on item 53.

[1:54:32] I've become uneasy with

[1:54:33] the structure by which the city

[1:54:36] purchases then leases vehicles.

[1:54:37] Last year I didn't support a

[1:54:42] similar items that have come

[1:54:42] through the council now.

[1:54:43] I do understand that this is

[1:54:47] how the city has purchased

[1:54:47] vehicles in recent years but

[1:54:51] I'm uncomfortable with the city

[1:54:52] perpetually issuing debt to

[1:54:52] fund vehicles and equipment for

[1:54:56] our fleet.

[1:54:56] So I will be voting no on this

[1:54:57] item but will be supporting

[1:55:01] the balance of the consent

[1:55:01] agenda.

[1:55:02] And that concludes my comments.

[1:55:03] Thank you.

[1:55:03] All right.

[1:55:04] Thank you, Councilmember

[1:55:04] Moreno.

[1:55:06] So we have a motion by Council

[1:55:09] member Campbell to move

[1:55:09] the consent item from

[1:55:10] the second by council member

[1:55:11] Moreno And we'll go next to

[1:55:15] Councilmember John Wolpert.

[1:55:15] >> Thank you.

[1:55:16] I also would like to register a

[1:55:19] no vote on item 63 and 5855 was

[1:55:20] pulled, right?

[1:55:20] Yes.

[1:55:23] Okay.

[1:55:24] And I just I do have a question

[1:55:29] about the new rfid readers that

[1:55:31] we're purchasing as part of

[1:55:37] item 53.

[1:55:38] >> Do I have that right or item

[1:55:39] 58.

[1:55:39] Good morning.

[1:55:43] Customer one over Jeremy Bauer

[1:55:43] Environmental Services

[1:55:44] Assistant Director.

[1:55:44] >> Okay.

[1:55:45] Sorry I'm 58.

[1:55:49] I have questions on it.

[1:55:50] >> So all of the new trash bins

[1:55:53] that the city purchased were

[1:55:54] equipped with rfid chips but

[1:55:54] we're just now we can't read

[1:55:55] them.

[1:55:58] The trash trucks can't read

[1:55:58] the chips.

[1:55:59] >> The plan has always been to

[1:56:02] do a pilot to buy the actual

[1:56:03] hardware.

[1:56:03] To answer your question, yes

[1:56:04] all the containers comes

[1:56:07] standard with the tags

[1:56:08] themselves embedded in

[1:56:08] the container.

[1:56:12] What we had to subsequently do

[1:56:13] as a step is buy the hardware

[1:56:16] to scan them And we did a pilot

[1:56:17] on one technology.

[1:56:17] The detection rate wasn't high

[1:56:18] enough to meet our operational

[1:56:21] needs so we did not come back

[1:56:22] for a contract amendment to

[1:56:22] purchase the that vendor.

[1:56:26] This action would be to allow

[1:56:27] us to if this current pilot

[1:56:27] were about to begin a

[1:56:31] successful would give us

[1:56:32] the capacity to then buy

[1:56:32] the hardware for that

[1:56:33] technology.

[1:56:36] Okay How open?

[1:56:37] This is why I voted against

[1:56:38] buying new trashcans in

[1:56:38] the first place But I assumed

[1:56:40] when the trash cans were

[1:56:41] purchased we would have already

[1:56:42] tested the technology.

[1:56:45] So how is the council going to

[1:56:46] know whether or not this next

[1:56:47] procurement works And what are

[1:56:50] the rfid program is actually

[1:56:50] working?

[1:56:51] So we are we are comfortable

[1:56:56] coming back in probably around

[1:56:57] DECEMBER to share the results

[1:57:00] of the either via communication

[1:57:01] to council members or if you

[1:57:02] would like us to present an

[1:57:04] informational item to share

[1:57:06] the outcome of the pilot to

[1:57:09] share from there whether we

[1:57:11] would proceed with full

[1:57:12] implementation.

[1:57:12] >> Okay.

[1:57:14] I'm guessing this goes to

[1:57:15] the Environment Committee

[1:57:16] likely we would begin with

[1:57:17] environmental committee first,

[1:57:18] correct?

[1:57:19] >> I will leave that to

[1:57:21] the chair to decide what to do

[1:57:22] but I would request a memo to

[1:57:24] know how the additional money

[1:57:25] we're spending on new rfid

[1:57:25] pilot programs actually works

[1:57:27] out.

[1:57:29] Absolutely.

[1:57:31] Thank you.

[1:57:33] >> Thank you.

[1:57:35] And I'll still be voting no on

[1:57:36] those two items.

[1:57:38] Thank you.

[1:57:40] All right.

[1:57:42] Thank you.

[1:57:44] Council member Yvonne Wolpert.

[1:57:45] And we'll go next to council

[1:57:47] member Isla Rivera.

[1:57:49] All right.

[1:57:52] Thank you so much, Council

[1:57:53] PRESIDENT.

[1:57:55] I just wanted to make sure that

[1:57:57] I register a no vote on item

[1:57:58] 54.

[1:57:59] Um, as I mentioned in the past

[1:58:01] I have concerns about a few of

[1:58:02] the pieces of military

[1:58:03] equipment that are included in

[1:58:04] this action specifically or

[1:58:06] maybe most notably flashbangs

[1:58:07] which while less lethal are

[1:58:11] still dangerous and have

[1:58:12] injured, maimed or killed

[1:58:14] people in the past.

[1:58:19] So understand that within this

[1:58:20] action there are some pieces of

[1:58:24] equipment that are quite

[1:58:25] regular in their use.

[1:58:25] However I have concerns about

[1:58:30] others and so I will be casting

[1:58:31] another vote for that reason.

[1:58:31] Thank you.

[1:58:34] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:58:35] All right.

[1:58:35] Thank you, Councilmember Yellow

[1:58:36] Rivera.

[1:58:36] And we'll go next to

[1:58:37] Councilmember Foster.

[1:58:39] Yes, Thank you, Council

[1:58:40] PRESIDENT.

[1:58:40] I would just like to quickly

[1:58:44] register a no vote for item 50

[1:58:47] for item 58 and item 111.

[1:58:48] And that concludes my comments.

[1:58:48] Thank you.

[1:58:49] All right.

[1:58:53] And did you catch that city

[1:58:54] clerk?

[1:58:54] No.

[1:58:56] Could you repeat those for

[1:58:57] the no vote on item 54?

[1:59:01] Item 58 and item 111.

[1:59:01] I missed the first one.

[1:59:02] Thank you so much.

[1:59:02] All right.

[1:59:05] Thank you for that.

[1:59:06] Not seeing anybody else on

[1:59:10] the lights.

[1:59:11] I'm going to offer just some

[1:59:11] couple of quick comments.

[1:59:15] I know there was unusual amount

[1:59:15] of criticism about the consent

[1:59:19] items.

[1:59:20] One, I certainly encourage

[1:59:20] the public.

[1:59:21] I don't think there's anybody

[1:59:24] in this room that can look at

[1:59:25] the name of a docket item.

[1:59:26] But all that backup material is

[1:59:29] there if you're interested.

[1:59:29] All of these items have had

[1:59:30] robust conversation before

[1:59:33] getting placed on the consent

[1:59:33] item.

[1:59:34] Whether it's a committee and at

[1:59:38] full council And I want to

[1:59:39] thank our city clerk and her

[1:59:43] team for the work they do and

[1:59:44] putting this docket materials

[1:59:48] in front of us and also would

[1:59:48] encourage you to look at

[1:59:49] the current version of

[1:59:49] the Brown Act which actually

[1:59:51] changed consent items and

[1:59:56] actually took actually

[1:59:56] encourage people to have less

[2:00:01] public comment on consent items

[2:00:01] .

[2:00:02] As council PRESIDENT I've

[2:00:02] chosen not to do that.

[2:00:06] I continue our traditional

[2:00:06] practice that whether it's a

[2:00:07] second reading, whether it's

[2:00:08] been heard a committee, whether

[2:00:11] it's been heard at city council

[2:00:12] to continue to add that to

[2:00:12] the consent items.

[2:00:16] So that there another one more

[2:00:16] opportunity for the public and

[2:00:20] for council members to weigh

[2:00:20] in.

[2:00:21] The Brown Act actually changed

[2:00:21] that standard a little bit.

[2:00:24] To my surprise I also want to

[2:00:29] mention a couple of comments

[2:00:30] about the settlement items So I

[2:00:31] have to be careful because they

[2:00:35] were settlement items.

[2:00:35] But on the path item I don't

[2:00:36] know that I can possibly

[2:00:40] explain to the public about

[2:00:41] the nature of that And there

[2:00:45] MAY be a little bit when we

[2:00:45] bring this the water rates

[2:00:50] later this fall and it's just

[2:00:50] an astounding one.

[2:00:55] I also want to mention a little

[2:00:56] bit about the larger Terrace

[2:00:59] Homeowners Association because

[2:01:00] one of the things I thought

[2:01:01] about during proclamations with

[2:01:04] mta is that, you know,

[2:01:05] the mayor and the city council

[2:01:08] make a number of decisions In

[2:01:08] the past two years we've made

[2:01:09] some very difficult decisions

[2:01:10] and yet it is our front line

[2:01:13] employees that are out there

[2:01:14] interfacing with the public and

[2:01:17] MAY be suffering the wrath of

[2:01:18] the public on decisions that we

[2:01:19] have made here at City Hall.

[2:01:23] And I always try to be aware

[2:01:24] and sensitive to that which is

[2:01:24] one of the reasons why I'm

[2:01:25] going to getting off track.

[2:01:27] So let me stop there.

[2:01:31] But the settlement on 109 we're

[2:01:32] paying the price because a

[2:01:36] developer or a civil engineer

[2:01:36] or a city permit process

[2:01:37] allowed a private development

[2:01:41] to build inappropriately close

[2:01:42] to 11 foot diameter storm

[2:01:42] drain.

[2:01:42] The proximity didn't cause

[2:01:46] the sinkhole but appropriate

[2:01:47] stop setbacks had been

[2:01:47] respected.

[2:01:48] It could have been a much

[2:01:51] different story.

[2:01:51] That proximity also made

[2:01:55] the emergency repairs that much

[2:01:56] more expensive.

[2:01:56] So as a registered civil

[2:02:00] engineer I want to emphasize

[2:02:01] design standards matter And

[2:02:01] every time we take a shortcut

[2:02:02] or let somebody get away with

[2:02:06] something it leaves both

[2:02:07] the city and the taxpayers on

[2:02:10] the hook In the future.

[2:02:11] And when that doesn't happen we

[2:02:12] should consider ourselves very

[2:02:12] lucky.

[2:02:15] So with that we have a motion

[2:02:16] by council member Campbell and

[2:02:17] a second by Council member

[2:02:20] Moreno to move the balance of

[2:02:21] the consent items.

[2:02:21] >> clerk Please call the roll.

[2:02:22] I'm sorry the voting system

[2:02:32] Please cast your vote And that

[2:02:33] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with

[2:02:37] Council District five and eight

[2:02:38] voting no on 53 council

[2:02:41] districts four and nine voting

[2:02:42] no on 54 Council districts four

[2:02:42] and five voting no on 58.

[2:02:46] And Council District four

[2:02:47] voting No on item 111.

[2:02:47] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[2:02:48] All right.

[2:02:50] Thank you, City Clerk And thank

[2:02:51] you for paying close attention

[2:02:52] to those no votes on

[2:02:56] the consent items to make sure

[2:02:56] we get it just right.

[2:03:00] All right.

[2:03:00] So at this moment in

[2:03:01] the docket, do we have any

[2:03:04] comment, Mayor, from

[2:03:05] the mayoral office?

[2:03:06] Council member City attorney

[2:03:06] Independent budget analyst or

[2:03:10] city clerk And Wolf, I see

[2:03:11] council member Von Wilbert on

[2:03:11] the lights.

[2:03:11] Yes.

[2:03:14] Thank you.

[2:03:14] I'm guessing everybody is

[2:03:15] seeing the news alert that one

[2:03:16] of our American heroes has just

[2:03:19] passed on.

[2:03:20] Dolly Parton just died at 80

[2:03:20] years old And I want to thank

[2:03:24] her for her incredible

[2:03:25] musicianship, her journey, all

[2:03:25] of the incredible philanthropy

[2:03:26] she did throughout the world

[2:03:29] including teaching children to

[2:03:30] read And Dolly, we will always

[2:03:30] love you.

[2:03:33] So thank you.

[2:03:33] All right.

[2:03:34] Thank you for that.

[2:03:35] We will now proceed with

[2:03:38] the discussion agenda And as a

[2:03:39] reminder we will hear item

[2:03:42] three 31st and then item 55

[2:03:43] which was pulled from

[2:03:43] the consent agenda this

[2:03:44] morning.

[2:03:47] So with that clerk please

[2:03:48] introduce item 330.

[2:03:48] >> Item 330 is a resolution

[2:03:49] condemning the Trump

[2:03:52] administration's attacks on

[2:03:53] higher education and affirming

[2:03:53] the city of San Diego's

[2:03:54] commitment to protecting higher

[2:03:57] education from political

[2:03:58] interference.

[2:03:58] >> Thank you, Council

[2:03:58] PRESIDENT.

[2:04:01] All right.

[2:04:02] >> Thank you.

[2:04:03] So this item is being brought

[2:04:06] forward by District five so

[2:04:06] I'll turn it over to council

[2:04:07] member Von Wolpert before she

[2:04:09] turns it over to her staff for

[2:04:10] the presentation.

[2:04:11] >> Council Member Thank you

[2:04:11] very much Council PRESIDENT And

[2:04:15] as my staff are settling in

[2:04:16] thank you for your hard work on

[2:04:16] this resolution.

[2:04:20] I'm proud to bring forth this

[2:04:20] resolution reaffirming the city

[2:04:21] of San Diego's commitment to

[2:04:22] academic freedom and to

[2:04:25] the tens of thousands of

[2:04:26] students who call San Diego

[2:04:26] home.

[2:04:29] San Diego is one of

[2:04:29] the strongest higher education

[2:04:30] and research communities across

[2:04:30] the country.

[2:04:34] Our universities, colleges and

[2:04:34] research institutions educate

[2:04:35] the next generation, drive

[2:04:39] innovation, support thousands

[2:04:40] of jobs and advance research

[2:04:41] that improves the lives here in

[2:04:43] San Diego and around the world

[2:04:44] .

[2:04:44] The federalist landscape

[2:04:45] surrounding higher education

[2:04:48] continues to create uncertainty

[2:04:48] for institutions across our

[2:04:49] region Here at home

[2:04:53] the campaign by the federal

[2:04:53] Trump Administration to exert

[2:04:54] pressure on our higher

[2:04:55] education institutions and

[2:04:57] reshape federal policy

[2:04:58] affecting our universities and

[2:04:59] colleges is creating turmoil

[2:05:03] across our institutions.

[2:05:03] When institutions face

[2:05:04] uncertainty about funding and

[2:05:07] federal policy, it can affect

[2:05:08] their ability to plan for

[2:05:08] the future, recruit and retain

[2:05:09] talented faculty and

[2:05:11] researchers and maintain

[2:05:11] important programs to support

[2:05:16] our students.

[2:05:17] Trump has raised serious

[2:05:17] concerns regarding his pressure

[2:05:21] to exert political interference

[2:05:21] in higher education

[2:05:22] institutions through his

[2:05:23] threats to withhold federal

[2:05:26] funding depending on whom

[2:05:27] the institution supports and

[2:05:27] accepts his attacks on

[2:05:31] diversity, equity or lgbtq

[2:05:31] community.

[2:05:32] All of our Hispanic serving

[2:05:33] institutions and more shows

[2:05:36] that he is willing to use his

[2:05:37] political bully pulpit as a

[2:05:37] cudgel against our students

[2:05:41] restrictions on academic and

[2:05:42] scientific research,

[2:05:43] suppression of student speech

[2:05:46] and lawful protest in policies

[2:05:46] targeting our transgender and

[2:05:47] international students.

[2:05:51] These actions undermine our

[2:05:51] long standing democratic

[2:05:52] principles including academic

[2:05:52] freedom.

[2:05:53] And we're here as a city to

[2:05:56] stand up and say no.

[2:05:57] So now turn it over to my

[2:05:58] staff.

[2:05:58] Eric Young and Lauren

[2:06:00] Hirschman, thank you.

[2:06:01] >> Good morning.

[2:06:01] Council PRESIDENT And honorable

[2:06:05] San Diego City Council.

[2:06:06] My name is Eric Young, Deputy

[2:06:06] chief of Policy and Director of

[2:06:11] Community Relations for

[2:06:11] Councilmember Monica Wolpert

[2:06:12] and my colleague beside me is

[2:06:13] Lauren Hirschman Community

[2:06:16] Engagement Coordinator for

[2:06:16] Councilmember many of them

[2:06:17] Walberg Today's resolution

[2:06:20] speaks to a core responsibility

[2:06:20] of the city ensuring that

[2:06:21] seniors, universities, colleges

[2:06:25] and research institutions

[2:06:25] remain strong, independent and

[2:06:26] capable of serving the public

[2:06:30] good without undue political

[2:06:30] interference or instability in

[2:06:31] the federal funding.

[2:06:34] This is about protecting not

[2:06:35] just institutions but students

[2:06:40] workers research issues and

[2:06:40] the long term economic and

[2:06:44] civic health of our region.

[2:06:45] San Diego is home to one of

[2:06:49] the most diverse and impactful

[2:06:50] higher education ecosystems in

[2:06:50] the state of California Across

[2:06:54] our city and region, academic

[2:06:55] institutions and

[2:06:55] internationally recognized

[2:06:59] research for research centers

[2:06:59] play a vital role in shaping

[2:07:00] our economy.

[2:07:03] Strengthening our workforce and

[2:07:04] driving innovations that

[2:07:08] benefits communities.

[2:07:09] These institutions are not only

[2:07:10] centers of learning but also

[2:07:13] major economic engines For

[2:07:13] the city of San Diego they

[2:07:14] support thousands of jobs

[2:07:18] throughout the region,

[2:07:18] contribute billions of dollars

[2:07:19] in economic activity and help

[2:07:23] prepare the next generation of

[2:07:23] professionals.

[2:07:24] Research in San Diego continues

[2:07:28] to advance scientific discovery

[2:07:28] ,medical innovation and public

[2:07:29] health initiatives that improve

[2:07:33] lives both within our region

[2:07:34] and across the world.

[2:07:34] The continued success and

[2:07:38] independence of higher

[2:07:39] education institutions is

[2:07:39] directly tied to long term

[2:07:43] prosperity, competitiveness and

[2:07:44] future growth of the city of

[2:07:48] San Diego.

[2:07:49] Recent federal funding cuts,

[2:07:49] grant freezes and legal

[2:07:50] challenges have created a

[2:07:52] significant uncertainty for

[2:07:53] educational institutions across

[2:07:57] the San Diego region.

[2:07:58] Research institutions depend

[2:07:58] heavily on federal grants to

[2:07:59] conduct life saving medical

[2:08:02] research, scientific

[2:08:02] innovation, public health

[2:08:03] studies and workforce

[2:08:07] development programs.

[2:08:08] Reports indicate University of

[2:08:08] California San Diego could face

[2:08:11] potentially losses ranging from

[2:08:12] tens to hundreds of millions of

[2:08:13] dollars annually, forcing

[2:08:17] hiring freezes, delaying

[2:08:17] critical research and

[2:08:18] construction projects and

[2:08:22] reduction in graduate education

[2:08:22] and research opportunities.

[2:08:23] The uncertainty itself has

[2:08:27] created instability, making it

[2:08:28] more difficult for universities

[2:08:28] to recruit.

[2:08:31] Researchers retain talent plan

[2:08:32] long term projects and continue

[2:08:36] major scientific initiatives

[2:08:37] that benefit the public.

[2:08:37] Federal support programs also

[2:08:41] play a major role in expanding

[2:08:42] educational access and

[2:08:42] opportunities for underserved

[2:08:43] communities throughout the San

[2:08:47] Diego region such as Hispanic

[2:08:48] serving institutions otherwise

[2:08:52] known as hci, which funding

[2:08:53] supports counseling services,

[2:08:57] tutoring workforce training,

[2:08:57] academic support programs,

[2:08:58] cultural resource centers and

[2:09:01] first generation student

[2:09:02] success initiatives.

[2:09:02] >> Recent reporting from

[2:09:06] California higher education

[2:09:07] coverage including Cal Matters

[2:09:07] highlights that federal

[2:09:11] proposals and executive actions

[2:09:12] have explicitly targeted

[2:09:16] programs supporting lgbtq

[2:09:16] students and diversity related

[2:09:17] campus services.

[2:09:21] We rely on these programs to

[2:09:21] support working families,

[2:09:22] veterans, immigrant communities

[2:09:26] and other students who MAY

[2:09:26] otherwise face barriers to

[2:09:27] higher education reduction or

[2:09:31] instability in these funding

[2:09:31] streams could

[2:09:32] disproportionately impact first

[2:09:33] generation and historically

[2:09:36] underserved students while also

[2:09:36] weakening the region's long

[2:09:37] term workforce pipeline and

[2:09:41] limiting economic mobility

[2:09:41] across San Diego.

[2:09:45] >> The impact of this

[2:09:46] uncertainty is not abstract it

[2:09:46] is local and immediate.

[2:09:50] San Diego Institute fans rely

[2:09:51] heavily on federal research

[2:09:52] grants and student support

[2:09:55] funding even the perception of

[2:09:56] instability can disrupt long

[2:10:01] term research planning, hiring

[2:10:01] and student services If funding

[2:10:02] streams are reduced or

[2:10:05] conditioned on political

[2:10:06] criteria, the consequences

[2:10:07] include reduced access to

[2:10:11] academic support for first

[2:10:12] generation and low income

[2:10:12] students cuts to counseling,

[2:10:15] tutoring and retention programs

[2:10:16] ,loss of research capacity in

[2:10:20] key academic and research

[2:10:21] fields such as medicine and

[2:10:21] engineering, increased strain

[2:10:23] on local workforce development

[2:10:28] pipelines.

[2:10:29] These attacks are not unique to

[2:10:34] San Diego Other California

[2:10:34] jurisdictions have already

[2:10:35] taken former action to address

[2:10:39] concerns about political

[2:10:39] interference in higher

[2:10:40] education.

[2:10:40] The city of Los Angeles and

[2:10:45] the city and county of San

[2:10:45] Francisco have both adopted

[2:10:49] resolutions affirming academic

[2:10:49] freedom, scientific integrity,

[2:10:50] institutional independence and

[2:10:55] constitu tional protections on

[2:10:56] college campuses.

[2:10:56] These are the solutions

[2:10:59] emphasized that higher

[2:11:00] education institutions should

[2:11:00] be governed by academic and

[2:11:05] scientific standards not

[2:11:05] political ideology and that

[2:11:06] research funding should be

[2:11:10] allocated based on merit and

[2:11:10] professional review at

[2:11:11] the state and local, state and

[2:11:15] national level.

[2:11:16] There's also growing concern

[2:11:17] about policy actions affecting

[2:11:20] admission oversight, diversity

[2:11:21] programs, campus speech and

[2:11:25] research autonomy.

[2:11:26] San Diego now has

[2:11:26] the opportunity to align with

[2:11:27] these principles and reaffirm

[2:11:30] its commitment to protecting

[2:11:31] its own higher education

[2:11:36] ecosystem.

[2:11:36] The resolution before you would

[2:11:37] formally affirm the city of San

[2:11:38] Diego's commitment to

[2:11:41] protecting academic freedom,

[2:11:42] institutional independence,

[2:11:46] scientific integrity,

[2:11:47] diversity, equity, inclusion,

[2:11:51] free speech and the rights of

[2:11:52] students, faculty and staff.

[2:11:56] It also formally condemns

[2:11:57] political interference in

[2:11:57] higher education when such

[2:12:02] actions are used to restrict

[2:12:02] funding or influence academic

[2:12:03] decision making based on

[2:12:07] ideological grounds.

[2:12:07] >> Importantly, this resolution

[2:12:12] also directs the city clerk to

[2:12:13] transmit this action to key

[2:12:13] stakeholders including

[2:12:17] the governor of California

[2:12:18] California Congressional

[2:12:18] Delegation Leadership of the uc

[2:12:23] csu and community college

[2:12:24] systems and local higher

[2:12:25] education institutions

[2:12:29] throughout San Diego.

[2:12:29] This ensures that San Diego's

[2:12:30] position is clearly

[2:12:31] communicated and aligned with

[2:12:35] broader statewide efforts to

[2:12:36] protect higher education.

[2:12:40] In closing this resolution is

[2:12:41] about ensuring that San Diego

[2:12:41] remains the national leader in

[2:12:45] education research and

[2:12:46] innovation.

[2:12:46] It is about protecting students

[2:12:47] access to opportunity,

[2:12:51] safeguarding scientific

[2:12:52] progress and preserving

[2:12:52] the institutional independence

[2:12:53] that allows universities to

[2:12:57] serve the public interest.

[2:12:58] >> I respectfully ask for your

[2:12:58] support.

[2:12:59] Thank you.

[2:12:59] All right.

[2:13:04] Thank you for the presentation

[2:13:04] .

[2:13:05] >> With that clerk please go to

[2:13:05] public public comment and

[2:13:10] confront the PRESIDENT

[2:13:11] Addressing it.

[2:13:11] If you can please come forward

[2:13:12] to the microphone After that

[2:13:15] will be Jonathan Burgos and

[2:13:15] then Lori Saldana.

[2:13:16] Jonathan, if you can please

[2:13:17] come forward to the reserved

[2:13:21] seats at the front And then on

[2:13:25] the agenda one minute per

[2:13:25] person.

[2:13:30] >> This is a great one, isn't

[2:13:31] it?

[2:13:31] It's just a great one.

[2:13:32] You have my total support on

[2:13:32] this.

[2:13:36] Higher education takes us

[2:13:37] higher.

[2:13:42] Higher education takes us

[2:13:42] higher.

[2:13:43] I just absolutely love higher

[2:13:48] education.

[2:13:49] I went very late in life.

[2:13:49] About 40 was the first one in

[2:13:54] my family on both sides to get

[2:13:55] their bachelor's degree.

[2:14:00] So you've got my support.

[2:14:01] My four likes are protecting

[2:14:06] academic freedom, scientific

[2:14:07] research, diversity,

[2:14:08] constitutional rights and

[2:14:13] institutional dependance.

[2:14:14] Therefore be a great

[2:14:14] presentation.

[2:14:19] Thank you so very much And

[2:14:19] being supported I'm a

[2:14:20] cheerleader on this.

[2:14:20] Thank you.

[2:14:25] Love to all Jonathan Burgos

[2:14:25] Good morning Council PRESIDENT

[2:14:26] And council members.

[2:14:32] >> My name is Jonathan Burgos,

[2:14:32] executive director of Christian

[2:14:33] Scholars and Outstanding

[2:14:35] Residents and I'm here in

[2:14:36] support of Resolution item

[2:14:36] three 34,000 personal income

[2:14:37] students that we serve who are

[2:14:41] currently in college.

[2:14:42] Higher education is more than a

[2:14:42] degree It's a pathway to

[2:14:43] economic mobility.

[2:14:48] This fall students were

[2:14:49] the first in their families to

[2:14:49] go to college.

[2:14:50] From our program already to

[2:14:51] Columbia, Cornell, UPenn,

[2:14:55] Caltech and Chu to Harvard on

[2:14:55] full rights Locally we have

[2:14:58] over 200 students attending

[2:14:59] ucsd and over 100

[2:15:00] quintessential states and this

[2:15:00] matters to our entire region.

[2:15:05] San Diego's economic strategy

[2:15:05] calls for 20,000 newly skilled

[2:15:06] workers every year starting at

[2:15:10] 2030 with 84% of those new jobs

[2:15:10] requiring a college degree.

[2:15:11] Higher education is economic

[2:15:15] infrastructure for our region.

[2:15:16] I go down to my son's

[2:15:17] orientation at ucla and I'm

[2:15:21] heading back right after this.

[2:15:22] But as important for me to come

[2:15:23] down here to say that vote in

[2:15:24] favor of this resolution means

[2:15:27] protecting our colleges and

[2:15:28] universities and protecting

[2:15:29] opportunity, economic mobility

[2:15:29] and funding of future.

[2:15:30] >> Thank you for that

[2:15:34] concluding remark, Lawrence I

[2:15:35] don't know if you can please

[2:15:36] come forward and then our

[2:15:36] speaker in chambers of

[2:15:37] the allegedly order please

[2:15:37] proceed.

[2:15:39] But thank you for introducing

[2:15:40] this.

[2:15:41] This is important not only to

[2:15:45] support faculty and researchers

[2:15:46] but remember Department of

[2:15:49] Education and Higher Education

[2:15:50] Title nine This is where women

[2:15:51] and nontraditional students

[2:15:55] have access to equal

[2:15:56] opportunity because of federal

[2:15:56] legislation 50 years ago and we

[2:16:01] really still haven't caught up

[2:16:02] in many ways although women are

[2:16:02] now exceeding that in our

[2:16:03] universities and colleges

[2:16:04] enrollment And maybe that's

[2:16:07] what's driving this.

[2:16:08] San Diego State has the oldest

[2:16:09] women's studies department in

[2:16:09] the country.

[2:16:13] I taught there many years ago

[2:16:14] and I will tell you that we

[2:16:15] were seeing that cuts and

[2:16:15] pushbacks against occupations

[2:16:20] where women tend to enter.

[2:16:20] So make no mistake this is a

[2:16:21] systemic attack not just

[2:16:25] against the current researchers

[2:16:26] and academics and faculty

[2:16:26] members.

[2:16:27] It is also against students,

[2:16:27] especially diverse students who

[2:16:31] are seeking simply the same

[2:16:32] opportunities that previous

[2:16:32] generations of Americans have

[2:16:33] had in higher education.

[2:16:37] So thank you for bringing this

[2:16:37] forward.

[2:16:49] >> Allegedly legislature.

[2:16:50] I actually think we should

[2:16:50] defund education.

[2:16:55] It's not education.

[2:16:56] It's indoctrination

[2:16:56] the Rockefeller slave system.

[2:16:57] Do you guys know anything about

[2:17:02] the Rockefellers You by educate

[2:17:02] yourselves because you guys

[2:17:07] care about Trump and it's like

[2:17:07] he's so minuscule compared to

[2:17:08] these billionaires that are

[2:17:13] running everything.

[2:17:14] i mean they created the medical

[2:17:15] system and it's like you don't

[2:17:19] go in there And I mean we have

[2:17:20] things that are fictitious that

[2:17:20] they're learning like that a

[2:17:24] man can be a woman that's like

[2:17:25] basics And we're teaching

[2:17:31] people that we're redefining

[2:17:31] what things are.

[2:17:32] So it's it's disturbing because

[2:17:33] it is you know, you have to

[2:17:39] control the people by, you

[2:17:39] know, dumbing down to say kids

[2:17:40] can't even read and write when

[2:17:41] they go to school but they sure

[2:17:43] know what genders are They sure

[2:17:44] know how to have incest.

[2:17:44] And it's like it's just that

[2:17:50] because you know it has been

[2:17:51] weaponized and it's unfortunate

[2:17:55] I'm sorry at the moment of time

[2:17:56] we're going to those

[2:17:56] participating remotely.

[2:17:57] We currently have seven

[2:17:57] speakers in the queue.

[2:17:59] Hector if you can please on

[2:18:00] mute you'll have one minute.

[2:18:00] >> Please proceed.

[2:18:05] I agree with what you said, man

[2:18:06] .

[2:18:06] Now you guys got to start

[2:18:07] paying on student loans.

[2:18:12] The school systems enslaving

[2:18:13] the young guys Wait till they

[2:18:16] get out of there with a

[2:18:16] $100,000 student loan for 40

[2:18:17] years.

[2:18:17] 20 years?

[2:18:25] That's what it's getting real.

[2:18:26] Those guys are enslaved at ucsd

[2:18:27] that built those two new high

[2:18:29] rises And you can't get out

[2:18:29] the window.

[2:18:30] The windows just crack because

[2:18:31] they don't want kids when they

[2:18:31] figure out they're going to be

[2:18:34] in debt for 150,000 and they're

[2:18:35] gonna start making 15 bucks an

[2:18:42] hour, they're going to jump

[2:18:43] that a lot of the jobs.

[2:18:47] So no bathrooms in there anyway

[2:18:47] ,let's get real now Kids going

[2:18:48] to go to the library and

[2:18:52] reading your book you want and

[2:18:52] plus I'm for diversity.

[2:18:53] We need some maga hats on

[2:18:54] the board on the council There

[2:18:59] aren't we Got to diversify this

[2:19:00] democratic giant and it's going

[2:19:04] on that it's like an

[2:19:05] abomination to our state your

[2:19:06] time I think that Madison if

[2:19:13] you can please them you all

[2:19:14] right So I'd also like to

[2:19:14] support the important

[2:19:15] principles in my life.

[2:19:18] I'm 330 and protecting academic

[2:19:19] freedom, independent research

[2:19:20] and the ability of scientists

[2:19:20] and universities to follow

[2:19:24] the evidence wherever it leads

[2:19:25] .

[2:19:25] As the wife of a San Diego

[2:19:26] State University professor, I

[2:19:30] support freedom in academic

[2:19:30] research and want

[2:19:31] the transparency of scientific

[2:19:32] principles to be the foundation

[2:19:37] of how we make decisions for

[2:19:38] our families and for our city.

[2:19:38] I want the policies affecting

[2:19:39] children to be based on

[2:19:43] the best available evidence not

[2:19:44] just on political ideology.

[2:19:45] Public health research was

[2:19:50] mentioned multiple times in

[2:19:50] the staff presentation and I

[2:19:51] spent a lot of time speaking to

[2:19:52] this council about youth

[2:19:55] substance use And there's a

[2:19:55] reason that I emphasize

[2:19:56] research when it comes to these

[2:19:57] public health concerns.

[2:20:01] We need researchers to be free

[2:20:01] to study these issues honestly

[2:20:02] and report what they find.

[2:20:03] So I encourage the Council to

[2:20:07] affirm the importance of

[2:20:07] independent higher education

[2:20:08] and scientific research and

[2:20:13] academic freedom that can help

[2:20:13] us make decisions.

[2:20:14] Thank you.

[2:20:15] Thank you, Kathleen Lippert, if

[2:20:20] you can please you can go.

[2:20:25] Thank you.

[2:20:26] This is definitely one of those

[2:20:26] good schools I'd like to share

[2:20:30] some data And troubling

[2:20:31] findings from Cal Matters

[2:20:32] regarding California schools.

[2:20:32] Although school scored big

[2:20:37] increases in funding, their

[2:20:38] academic performance did not

[2:20:38] seem to merit those increases

[2:20:43] And basically the skip basic

[2:20:44] skills such as reading and

[2:20:44] mathematics they measured in

[2:20:49] state federal testing.

[2:20:50] California schools were found

[2:20:50] to be to compare poorly to

[2:20:55] other states For decades

[2:20:55] California voters were told

[2:20:56] the solution was to spend more

[2:20:56] money.

[2:21:01] But the latest data found per

[2:21:05] pupil spending was thousand

[2:21:06] $2,000 above the national

[2:21:06] average with local taxes and

[2:21:11] federal spending increased to

[2:21:12] 17,000 per student And Newsom's

[2:21:17] latest budget it would raise

[2:21:18] the student spending 27,000

[2:21:24] Idaho came in That came in last

[2:21:25] in the Educational Law Center's

[2:21:25] ranking included Blair Beckman

[2:21:29] if you can please and you.

[2:21:29] All right.

[2:21:30] Thank you, Blair Beekman,

[2:21:35] thanks a lot for the efforts on

[2:21:35] this item.

[2:21:40] For every idea that the current

[2:21:41] Trump administration has, I

[2:21:42] mean a couple of them can

[2:21:42] actually be helpful and

[2:21:47] interesting.

[2:21:47] There's several others that

[2:21:48] it's just the absolute idea of

[2:21:48] misery.

[2:21:52] It's really sad and you're

[2:21:53] taking your time here to try to

[2:21:54] work out ways to mitigate that

[2:21:58] misery.

[2:21:59] It'll be so good when he is

[2:22:00] gone and we can deal with

[2:22:01] Republican Party candidates

[2:22:04] that are working more within,

[2:22:05] you know, California structures

[2:22:06] and ideas.

[2:22:10] And I think we'll understand a

[2:22:11] better world that way as simple

[2:22:12] as that and give credit to, you

[2:22:16] know, I to be honest our

[2:22:17] Democratic Party has gone a

[2:22:17] little off the rails and a

[2:22:22] little large.

[2:22:23] It's good luck how we bring

[2:22:24] back a conversation where we're

[2:22:24] all included and contributing

[2:22:28] and from that place.

[2:22:29] I think the decisions here

[2:22:29] today are just awesome and

[2:22:30] the only way to go or the best

[2:22:34] way to go good luck to them has

[2:22:34] concluded.

[2:22:40] >> Jackson Williams Hello, I'm

[2:22:40] Jackson Williams, a

[2:22:41] undergraduate student at ucsd.

[2:22:46] I'm studying political science

[2:22:46] and I'm here to urge you to

[2:22:47] support this resolution

[2:22:47] condemning the Trump

[2:22:52] administration.

[2:22:52] As a ucsd student, I've watched

[2:22:53] this unfold in real time as my

[2:22:54] university is under and under

[2:22:58] federal investigation for a

[2:22:58] medical school admission

[2:22:59] practices.

[2:22:59] We've seen research funding

[2:23:00] frozen international student

[2:23:03] visas revoked and federal

[2:23:04] pressure on administrators to

[2:23:05] eliminate programs or face

[2:23:10] financial retaliation.

[2:23:11] This is an abstract policy that

[2:23:11] affects my education, my

[2:23:12] classmates and my future.

[2:23:16] But more importantly these

[2:23:17] attacks on the principle

[2:23:17] the principles universities are

[2:23:18] supposed to stand for.

[2:23:19] That being academic freedom

[2:23:22] the free exchange of ideas and

[2:23:23] equal access to education.

[2:23:23] When the federal government

[2:23:24] uses funding as a weapon to

[2:23:28] control what universities teach

[2:23:29] and who they admit we all lose,

[2:23:30] our city depends on ucsd

[2:23:34] research and innovation and I

[2:23:35] urge this council to pass

[2:23:35] the resolution.

[2:23:36] Thank you.

[2:23:36] Thank you that I'm out of time

[2:23:41] has concluded There are five

[2:23:41] speakers and the keynote

[2:23:42] additional speakers will be

[2:23:43] taken Tony if you complete and

[2:23:53] you Yes Can I Can I can I see a

[2:23:53] point of order Clarity Is there

[2:23:54] going to be can I just ask are

[2:23:55] you going to be tuned on agenda

[2:23:58] public comment portions today

[2:23:58] Is there one at the 2:00

[2:23:59] meeting as well?

[2:24:03] >> Stay tuned Tony After this

[2:24:04] item concludes I'll give you an

[2:24:05] update on the meeting

[2:24:05] management.

[2:24:06] >> Okay.

[2:24:09] Thank you.

[2:24:10] Then speaking to this item I am

[2:24:15] in support of this item but I

[2:24:15] do feel like at a certain point

[2:24:16] it's sort of a pointless

[2:24:17] resolution because it's just a

[2:24:22] condemnation and that doesn't

[2:24:22] really do anything to actually

[2:24:27] stop the Trump administration

[2:24:28] from being able to do whatever

[2:24:28] it wants.

[2:24:29] We've seen that and we're

[2:24:33] continuing to aid them in other

[2:24:33] ways.

[2:24:34] >> So it's kind of really

[2:24:38] counterproductive.

[2:24:39] It's kind of on paper it says

[2:24:40] that we're opposing Trump and

[2:24:41] that's what it looks like to

[2:24:44] voters and we're appeasing our

[2:24:45] constituent base but we're not

[2:24:46] actually following through with

[2:24:47] that with solid action that

[2:24:51] would entities from being sued

[2:24:56] by the federal government And

[2:24:57] and that's reflected in our in

[2:24:58] our public security and

[2:25:03] surveillance policies.

[2:25:04] Thank you for your comments.

[2:25:07] Yes, Thank you.

[2:25:07] Amanda, if you can please.

[2:25:14] I'm you Yeah my city council I

[2:25:15] mean the district seven are

[2:25:20] huge fan of higher education I

[2:25:24] have worked at ucsd with on

[2:25:24] the campus with these 50

[2:25:25] students for the last six

[2:25:25] years.

[2:25:26] I teach a class at a community

[2:25:31] college and I just like

[2:25:32] the ucsd students and I spoke

[2:25:35] earlier last year I had two

[2:25:36] students and I work with a

[2:25:37] small place that had to

[2:25:42] self-deport And I've had all

[2:25:42] the time students are telling

[2:25:43] me that they're getting their

[2:25:47] grants pulled and getting

[2:25:48] defunded and all their life's

[2:25:49] work is you know, they're

[2:25:53] having to adjust soon and I

[2:25:54] really like this resolution.

[2:25:54] I do echo Tony though that it

[2:25:55] kind of feels like the clearing

[2:26:00] more not necessarily for me

[2:26:00] weapons to actually fight

[2:26:01] the war And so my suggestions I

[2:26:05] wrote was providing a city

[2:26:06] funded space for collaboration

[2:26:07] between universities for them

[2:26:07] to discuss strategy or

[2:26:13] providing legal funding or like

[2:26:13] a legal hotline for them to

[2:26:14] collaborate and figure out what

[2:26:15] kind of weapons they have, what

[2:26:17] think their time is good but

[2:26:23] it's 7499 if you can please you

[2:26:28] please proceed.

[2:26:29] This item speaks of diversity

[2:26:30] and of affirming the city's

[2:26:30] commitment to protecting

[2:26:31] academic freedom, institutional

[2:26:35] independence, scientific

[2:26:36] research, freedom of speech and

[2:26:36] so on.

[2:26:37] That all sounds good but it's a

[2:26:37] lie.

[2:26:38] There is no freedom of speech

[2:26:41] in these institutions.

[2:26:42] There's only freedom of one

[2:26:42] point of view.

[2:26:43] I know this from personal

[2:26:44] experience I worked at the Salk

[2:26:48] Institute in Milwaukee for

[2:26:48] nearly a decade.

[2:26:49] I had an excellent work record

[2:26:50] and all excellent reviews But

[2:26:53] during the George Floyd Mass

[2:26:54] insanity I lost my job because

[2:26:54] I dared to say that quote Good

[2:26:55] lives matter most.

[2:26:56] My statement wasn't out of

[2:27:00] the blue The discussion of

[2:27:01] George Floyd and blm was

[2:27:01] initiated by Fox on Society

[2:27:02] Research Fellow.

[2:27:06] They sent a broadcast email to

[2:27:06] all employees supporting

[2:27:07] the blm movement implying that

[2:27:08] George Floyd was killing

[2:27:11] the institutional racism which

[2:27:12] had never been proven.

[2:27:12] That letter was followed by a

[2:27:13] stream of one sided messages

[2:27:14] supporting that letter.

[2:27:16] I was the first person to

[2:27:17] suggest a different diverse

[2:27:18] opinion and I was fired for

[2:27:18] that opinion.

[2:27:22] There is no freedom of speech

[2:27:22] in these institutions If this

[2:27:23] Partizan Council actually cared

[2:27:24] about real diversity of thought

[2:27:25] and speech you'd be condemning

[2:27:27] the Salk Institute in your own

[2:27:28] backyard rather than making

[2:27:29] your pathetic play on

[2:27:29] the national stage.

[2:27:35] >> Your time has concluded

[2:27:35] Natalie if you can please

[2:27:36] unmute after that Our final

[2:27:37] speaker yesterday String by

[2:27:39] Natalie Rushing.

[2:27:39] So like the last gentleman just

[2:27:44] said this is against all

[2:27:44] humanity.

[2:27:45] If we are not recognizing that

[2:27:46] yet then we're in a real big

[2:27:49] problem.

[2:27:50] There's no Republican there's

[2:27:51] no Democrat.

[2:27:51] This is to get us to a new

[2:27:56] world order a state control

[2:27:57] like he's saying.

[2:28:01] They push this narrative and

[2:28:02] then if you don't agree with

[2:28:03] it, he lost his job.

[2:28:07] This is all by design.

[2:28:08] One administration comes in

[2:28:12] sets it sets us up for the next

[2:28:13] administration, comes in,

[2:28:14] blames them, sets us up for

[2:28:18] more and more and more.

[2:28:18] We aren't seeing that yet.

[2:28:24] It's against everybody All of

[2:28:24] education.

[2:28:29] It's so right in our faces.

[2:28:30] The solution is everybody stand

[2:28:34] down, Pull your kids from

[2:28:34] the school system.

[2:28:35] Don't go to work at

[2:28:35] the university.

[2:28:40] Everybody needs to stand down.

[2:28:40] Thank you.

[2:28:41] Thank you.

[2:28:42] And you do strain if you can

[2:28:42] please.

[2:28:45] And you.

[2:28:45] Good afternoon.

[2:28:51] I wanted to share some thoughts

[2:28:51] regarding item 330.

[2:28:52] They're sort of uncomfortable

[2:28:56] for me.

[2:28:56] While I heavily support higher

[2:28:57] education and I'm well

[2:29:01] acquainted by San Diego State

[2:29:02] and ucsd and our wonderful

[2:29:07] community college system and I

[2:29:08] have grandchildren in all of

[2:29:08] those schools and many other

[2:29:12] California supportive schools

[2:29:12] throughout California.

[2:29:17] I am concerned about

[2:29:18] the capacity for the diversity

[2:29:18] of opinions to flourish on our

[2:29:23] campuses And this does seem

[2:29:23] like bashing Trump doesn't get

[2:29:27] us there.

[2:29:28] A more healthy dialog could

[2:29:32] occur regarding what we'd like

[2:29:33] to see first on campus Are they

[2:29:34] really getting the full world

[2:29:38] view?

[2:29:39] What's going out there?

[2:29:39] I'm concerned about the optics

[2:29:43] of this particular proposal.

[2:29:44] Is it in all of our best

[2:29:48] interest to help our students

[2:29:49] by this type of resolution?

[2:29:49] >> Thank you.

[2:29:49] Thank you.

[2:29:53] That concludes a comment on

[2:29:54] this item.

[2:29:54] >> All right.

[2:29:55] Thank you, City Clerk I'll turn

[2:29:57] over to my colleagues.

[2:29:58] Please be aware of the time and

[2:29:59] a couple of items that we need

[2:30:03] to take care of before we break

[2:30:04] for the lunch recess and we'll

[2:30:04] go to council member Von

[2:30:08] Wolpert.

[2:30:08] >> Thank you very much.

[2:30:09] I'm happy to make the motion to

[2:30:10] approve this resolution and

[2:30:13] thank you to my incredible

[2:30:14] staff for all the work you've

[2:30:18] done on this in MAY or MAY 30th

[2:30:18] of 25 a headline came out

[2:30:19] Raquel Cameras that said Trump

[2:30:22] signed California lgbtq Plus

[2:30:23] centers to justify big cuts to

[2:30:26] their campuses and he named

[2:30:27] the San Diego Community College

[2:30:31] System in his remarks from

[2:30:36] FEBRUARY 26th, 26, EdSource, a

[2:30:37] national paper on education,

[2:30:38] claimed that Trump

[2:30:41] administration Congress leave

[2:30:42] Hispanic serving serving

[2:30:46] colleges confused over funding

[2:30:47] because he wanted to cut so

[2:30:48] much of the hsa grants that

[2:30:51] were canceled simply because

[2:30:51] they had the word Hispanic

[2:30:52] serving in their name.

[2:30:53] This is an attack on our

[2:30:56] academic freedom.

[2:30:57] It is attack on our students,

[2:30:58] an attack on our way of life

[2:30:58] here in San Diego.

[2:31:01] Earlier this year we held a

[2:31:01] press conference to raise

[2:31:02] awareness of this and I was

[2:31:06] proud to be joined at the press

[2:31:06] conference announcing this

[2:31:07] resolution by Ricardo Miranda,

[2:31:10] the vice PRESIDENT Of external

[2:31:11] affairs for Associated Students

[2:31:12] at uc San Diego, Chancellor

[2:31:15] Gregory Smith to the City of

[2:31:15] Community College District, our

[2:31:16] community college PRESIDENT And

[2:31:17] members of the Board of

[2:31:20] Trustees and students who are

[2:31:21] facing the academic pressures

[2:31:25] from our federal government on

[2:31:25] a daily basis.

[2:31:26] I especially want to recognize

[2:31:26] Chancellor Smith for his

[2:31:30] leadership When the Federal

[2:31:30] grants supporting certain

[2:31:31] student success initiatives

[2:31:32] were no longer available due to

[2:31:34] the discrimination in

[2:31:35] the federal government, the San

[2:31:36] Diego Community College

[2:31:36] District stepped up and

[2:31:37] reallocated funding to help

[2:31:39] continue programs supporting

[2:31:40] stem students from historically

[2:31:44] underserved communities.

[2:31:45] I would also like to thank and

[2:31:45] recognize Jonathan Burgos for

[2:31:46] being here today.

[2:31:49] Thank you for coming down from

[2:31:49] your son.

[2:31:50] The admission weekend to ucla.

[2:31:51] It's very exciting that he's

[2:31:54] going to ucla who is

[2:31:55] the founder and director of

[2:31:55] first Gen scholars for your

[2:31:59] leadership and commitment to

[2:31:59] supporting our first generation

[2:32:02] students throughout San Diego.

[2:32:03] First Gen Scholars was created

[2:32:03] specifically to address cold

[2:32:04] exceptions college acceptance

[2:32:07] retention and graduation among

[2:32:08] some of San Diego's most

[2:32:08] underserved communities.

[2:32:12] And Jonathan, your work is

[2:32:13] exactly why investments in

[2:32:13] these programs matter.

[2:32:17] As you said, they become some

[2:32:18] of the best workforce retention

[2:32:19] grants and agreements we can

[2:32:22] have.

[2:32:22] Thank you for getting the next

[2:32:23] generation of workers ready to

[2:32:27] serve San Diego and First Gen

[2:32:27] scholars helped provide

[2:32:28] guidance to the mentorships

[2:32:29] community and described as

[2:32:31] organization is helping first

[2:32:32] generation low income students

[2:32:33] navigate the incredibly complex

[2:32:37] college admission process

[2:32:37] financial aid and they are

[2:32:38] ultimately go on to graduate

[2:32:42] oftentimes without student

[2:32:42] debt.

[2:32:42] The federal government has

[2:32:46] moved to eliminate funding for

[2:32:47] several minority institution

[2:32:48] programs which will increase

[2:32:48] the student debt load on many,

[2:32:51] many students here.

[2:32:52] So this resolution sends a

[2:32:53] clear message San Diego Values

[2:32:56] Academic freedom, scientific

[2:32:57] integrity, institutional

[2:32:58] independence, free speech and

[2:33:01] the ability of our institutions

[2:33:02] to pursue education and

[2:33:02] research based on expertise,

[2:33:06] evidence and professional

[2:33:07] standards By standing up for

[2:33:07] higher education we are

[2:33:11] standing up for our students,

[2:33:12] our workforce, our economy, our

[2:33:13] government and our democracy.

[2:33:16] I respectfully ask for your

[2:33:17] support for this resolution.

[2:33:17] Thank you.

[2:33:18] And that concludes my motion.

[2:33:19] All right.

[2:33:21] Thank you Council member.

[2:33:22] Also we have a motion by

[2:33:23] council member Vaughn Wolpert

[2:33:23] to move the resolution.

[2:33:27] We'll go next to council member

[2:33:28] Whitman.

[2:33:28] Thank you very much Council

[2:33:29] PRESIDENT I have a lot I could

[2:33:30] say about the Trump

[2:33:31] administration's approach to

[2:33:31] higher education but given

[2:33:32] the hour I will thank Council

[2:33:36] member Wilpert and her team for

[2:33:37] bringing this forward and I

[2:33:37] will second the motion.

[2:33:38] >> All right.

[2:33:38] Thank you, sir.

[2:33:42] So we have a motion by council

[2:33:42] member Von Wilpert and a second

[2:33:43] by Council member Whitburn.

[2:33:45] See no one else in the lights.

[2:33:46] >> Clerk Please call the roll.

[2:33:46] I started the voting system.

[2:33:54] Please cast your vote That

[2:33:58] passes unanimously 7 to 0 with

[2:33:59] Council Member Campo and

[2:34:00] Council member Foster Absent

[2:34:02] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:34:03] right.

[2:34:03] >> As promised to one of

[2:34:08] the public speakers, one of

[2:34:09] the jobs of the Council

[2:34:09] PRESIDENT Is to manage

[2:34:10] the meeting.

[2:34:13] So item 55 which was pulled off

[2:34:16] the consent will be heard at 2

[2:34:17] P.M. And we will take that item

[2:34:22] first and we will take all of

[2:34:22] the non agenda public comment

[2:34:23] for those that are in chambers

[2:34:26] right now and I believe there's

[2:34:27] six of them and we will take

[2:34:31] the virtual non agenda public

[2:34:32] comment at the end of this

[2:34:32] afternoon session.

[2:34:36] So I want to make sure at least

[2:34:37] four of my colleagues are

[2:34:39] hanging tough for the six not

[2:34:40] agenda public comments that are

[2:34:41] actually in person and respect

[2:34:44] the time that they have waited

[2:34:45] to be here.

[2:34:46] So I'm going to take a picture

[2:34:51] with our Okay Yeah okay.

[2:34:56] >> So let's go to non agenda

[2:34:57] public comment for those in

[2:34:58] person And again virtual will

[2:35:01] be taken after the afternoon

[2:35:07] session So business there

[2:35:08] council PRESIDENT Perl 2.7 on

[2:35:09] agenda public comment is an

[2:35:09] opportunity for members of

[2:35:10] the public to comment on items

[2:35:11] that are not on the agenda

[2:35:12] within the subject matter of

[2:35:12] the City Council.

[2:35:15] Each speaker will have two

[2:35:16] minutes.

[2:35:17] Jacob Lewis if you can please

[2:35:17] come forward to the microphone

[2:35:18] after that.

[2:35:21] Joyce initiative you can come

[2:35:21] to the front row as well as

[2:35:25] Bailey Murphy allegedly Audra

[2:35:25] Paul Krueger and Lori Saldana.

[2:35:26] If you can all please come

[2:35:30] forward to the front row.

[2:35:30] Jacob, please proceed with

[2:35:31] the two minutes.

[2:35:34] Good afternoon, Council men and

[2:35:35] women standing before you today

[2:35:43] to speak of proposing amending

[2:35:44] the 27 budget to include

[2:35:48] the Neil Daigle Center.

[2:35:49] There was a situation a couple

[2:35:50] months back a few months back

[2:35:53] where federal money is used as

[2:35:53] a weapon and federal money was

[2:35:58] used as a weapon over

[2:35:58] the Father Jones organization

[2:36:02] which included the Neil Diamond

[2:36:03] Center.

[2:36:03] Now this New Day Goods Center

[2:36:04] is a resource center for

[2:36:08] homeless folk.

[2:36:09] It does more than folk would

[2:36:12] ever realize for these people's

[2:36:13] livelihoods.

[2:36:13] Now for federal money to be

[2:36:17] held over organization heads it

[2:36:18] is an outrage.

[2:36:23] I ask I ask that local leaders

[2:36:28] you all consider amending

[2:36:28] the 27 budget to assist

[2:36:32] the Neil j Good Center getting

[2:36:32] the funding it needs.

[2:36:33] It's going to be moving

[2:36:37] locations and it needs funding

[2:36:37] to please consider that.

[2:36:38] I mean if you look at

[2:36:41] the budget and the way we're

[2:36:42] spending money I think it could

[2:36:47] be amended for the Neil Daigle

[2:36:48] Center to be funded locally So

[2:36:51] we should respect and Father

[2:36:52] Joe should not put up with

[2:36:56] federal money held over its

[2:36:56] head or any other organization

[2:37:00] nor locally should we put up

[2:37:01] with it that federal money

[2:37:02] should not be used as a weapon.

[2:37:06] Federal money That's our money.

[2:37:07] We pay federal taxes to assist

[2:37:11] us not be used against us as a

[2:37:11] weapon.

[2:37:16] So I'm standing here before you

[2:37:16] to ask to please consider

[2:37:21] the funding of Neil Daggett

[2:37:22] Center to amend the 27 budget

[2:37:25] to do just that and that is for

[2:37:26] the livelihoods of homeless

[2:37:27] folk that need that center.

[2:37:30] Thank you and GOD bless you

[2:37:31] Jason, if you can please come

[2:37:35] forward I'll add a little bit

[2:37:39] to what he just said.

[2:37:40] Yes, it's happening with

[2:37:44] the Neil Good day Center And so

[2:37:44] here we go.

[2:37:49] Could we just look everybody

[2:37:49] John Brady and everyone look at

[2:37:50] where is the golden opportunity

[2:37:54] And it's closing.

[2:37:54] Let's not get discouraged or

[2:37:58] give up.

[2:37:59] Okay?

[2:37:59] Let's look for the golden

[2:38:00] opportunity and have a robust

[2:38:04] conversation between all and

[2:38:04] make that happen.

[2:38:05] I'm actually speaking on

[2:38:08] lifeguards So here we go.

[2:38:13] More work needs to be done at

[2:38:13] the state of California

[2:38:14] government level to keep

[2:38:18] the momentum going on changing

[2:38:22] lifeguards to be classified as

[2:38:23] first responder was a big thank

[2:38:24] you to state Senator Catherine

[2:38:28] Blake spear for her work on

[2:38:32] this matter and for plans to

[2:38:32] introduce a formal statutory

[2:38:37] bill in a future legislative

[2:38:37] session.

[2:38:42] I encourage all of San Diegans

[2:38:43] let's all of us rise up and

[2:38:46] fight for this.

[2:38:47] It doesn't look like it's going

[2:38:47] to be a fight.

[2:38:48] It's got really good momentum.

[2:38:51] Well it's got legs so I

[2:38:52] encourage all San Diego to do

[2:38:56] whatever you can to back our

[2:39:00] lifeguards on this change

[2:39:05] Lifeguards do respond first and

[2:39:10] by doing so they guard life

[2:39:15] love all lifeguards and they're

[2:39:15] coming forward with their power

[2:39:19] And I'm so happy for that.

[2:39:20] So it's been a great, great day

[2:39:21] already.

[2:39:24] So thank you everybody.

[2:39:25] I just loved it.

[2:39:29] Love to all Bailey Murphy.

[2:39:30] Bailey Murphy, are you here?

[2:39:31] Allegedly.

[2:39:42] Audra, please come forward real

[2:39:42] quick.

[2:39:43] Can I call a point of order

[2:39:44] about what you said about

[2:39:47] the Brown Act That's actually

[2:39:47] not true.

[2:39:48] It was the reverse with

[2:39:49] committees You didn't have to

[2:39:50] put it and allow people to

[2:39:52] speak but now you actually do

[2:39:52] Anyway, Thanks.

[2:39:53] I just thought that was

[2:39:57] interesting.

[2:39:57] Why would they do that?

[2:39:58] I need you guys to go further

[2:40:02] than your You guys hate Trump.

[2:40:02] Let's keep going to understand

[2:40:06] the people above Trump Right?

[2:40:07] I'm talking these bankers like

[2:40:08] I don't understand why you guys

[2:40:11] focus on Trump.

[2:40:12] He's a puppet.

[2:40:12] You guys realize that, right?

[2:40:16] Every PRESIDENT Is they all

[2:40:17] pick them.

[2:40:17] It's not by chance that these

[2:40:20] things happen But I think that

[2:40:21] you guys need to be concerned

[2:40:21] about all of these the ones

[2:40:25] above like I'm talking

[2:40:26] Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Jp

[2:40:30] Morgan, all of these banking

[2:40:31] entities that you guys engage

[2:40:35] in and we're giving all our

[2:40:36] data to them And this is I'm

[2:40:36] talking in the echelons of

[2:40:40] the Epstein own cia Mossad

[2:40:41] operation that you guys should

[2:40:44] be concerned about because

[2:40:45] these people are taking data of

[2:40:49] our children and they do very

[2:40:50] nefarious things to children.

[2:40:51] I don't I'm sure you guys don't

[2:40:55] want to look into the Epstein

[2:40:55] files but it's pretty

[2:41:00] disturbing What is taking place

[2:41:00] and how there is no

[2:41:01] accountability.

[2:41:01] That is why Epstein's not dead.

[2:41:05] The operation is still in full

[2:41:05] flux and that's why it should

[2:41:06] concern you guys that we're

[2:41:07] actually getting bed with

[2:41:09] Israel which was created in

[2:41:14] 1948 by the Rothschilds.

[2:41:19] It is not the GOD Israel of

[2:41:20] the Bible, it is the synagogue

[2:41:20] of Satan.

[2:41:21] And it is very disturbing that

[2:41:24] these people do satanic rituals

[2:41:24] on children and other human

[2:41:29] beings And it's like and we're

[2:41:29] giving them our data through

[2:41:34] this surveillance And so it's

[2:41:35] like you guys concentrate on

[2:41:39] Trump But I don't understand

[2:41:39] why you can't go further than

[2:41:41] that, especially those of you

[2:41:46] that have children because I'm

[2:41:47] talking they eat the intestines

[2:41:51] of babies when it has curdled

[2:41:52] milk in it and put it on bagels

[2:41:56] Your time is concluded Paul

[2:41:57] Krueger I don't call Krueger

[2:41:57] here.

[2:41:58] Laurie Saldana if you can

[2:42:02] please come forward.

[2:42:03] >> Laurie Saldana Yeah because

[2:42:09] I hear left okay I will just

[2:42:10] say regarding the Brown Act

[2:42:11] there is the law and then there

[2:42:13] is what makes sense and what's

[2:42:14] right And if you're dealing

[2:42:18] with millions of dollars in

[2:42:19] investments and not giving us

[2:42:23] reports it's it's not really

[2:42:23] right.

[2:42:24] Case in point a civil engineer

[2:42:27] just recently noted that

[2:42:28] shortcuts around major

[2:42:29] infrastructure are not a good

[2:42:33] idea under the star that

[2:42:36] represents the Midway area is a

[2:42:37] 96 inch sewage line that a

[2:42:37] contract was awarded or

[2:42:41] exclusive negotiation rights

[2:42:42] was awarded to a company and

[2:42:43] that 96 inch sewer line was not

[2:42:46] properly identified.

[2:42:47] So shortcuts don't make sense

[2:42:51] including the Midway Project.

[2:42:51] Next slide please.

[2:42:52] The Midway Project You know

[2:42:56] yesterday we were speaking

[2:42:56] about it despite your best

[2:42:57] efforts to block it.

[2:43:00] >> But the fact is we have sea

[2:43:01] level rise.

[2:43:01] >> Pardon the noise.

[2:43:02] This is happening during high

[2:43:02] tide.

[2:43:05] Not storm high tides Not only

[2:43:06] new high tides just regular old

[2:43:10] high tides and if you're going

[2:43:11] to build in the coastal

[2:43:11] communities you need innovative

[2:43:15] ways to do so without sediment

[2:43:15] Threaten the public safety

[2:43:16] going forward.

[2:43:20] Next slide please I think is

[2:43:20] the Blasio effect and you've

[2:43:24] seen this before but I know as

[2:43:25] somebody who has taught tech

[2:43:25] and information technology for

[2:43:26] many years you have to repeat

[2:43:30] things to people for them to

[2:43:30] get the message.

[2:43:31] So when the storm water is

[2:43:34] coming up that is our

[2:43:35] stormwater system being

[2:43:35] overwhelmed.

[2:43:36] I call that the Bellagio effect

[2:43:38] because the storm water

[2:43:39] department welded those in

[2:43:40] place to prevent them from

[2:43:43] rising up from the storm water

[2:43:44] and cause a tripping hazard.

[2:43:45] So now we have jets and

[2:43:48] fountains of water representing

[2:43:49] just how powerful the sea does

[2:43:49] not respond to legislation.

[2:43:53] It is coming after us and it is

[2:43:54] coming after what we build in

[2:43:54] the coastal zone.

[2:43:58] So you MAY have repealed

[2:43:58] Measure c but I think

[2:44:02] the intent of the state

[2:44:03] legislature is to still build

[2:44:04] in an area that even civil

[2:44:07] engineers agree is a shortcut.

[2:44:08] >> Midway area is sinking.

[2:44:13] Please don't build there.

[2:44:13] >> Thank you.

[2:44:14] That does include knowledge in

[2:44:15] a public comment hearing

[2:44:15] Council chambers All right.

[2:44:16] Thank you.

[2:44:18] City Clerk And just to repeat

[2:44:18] we will take the virtual non

[2:44:19] agenda public comment at

[2:44:19] the end.

[2:44:22] At the end of our afternoon

[2:44:23] session and we will also take

[2:44:27] item 55 which was pulled from

[2:44:30] the consent agenda First up at

[2:44:31] 2 P.M. When we reconvene.

[2:44:32] So we will now adjourn for

[2:44:32] the noon recess and reconvene

[2:44:34] in open session at 2 P.M. Or

[2:44:53] shortly thereafter.

[2:54:13] Following

[2:58:48] and

[2:58:48] All right, good afternoon.

[2:58:53] >> I will now reconvene

[2:58:54] the City Council meeting of

[2:58:54] Tuesday, AUGUST 25th 2026.

[2:58:58] Clerk Please.

[2:58:59] Clerk Please call the roll.

[2:58:59] Thank you.

[2:59:00] Council PRESIDENT Council

[2:59:03] Member Campbell Council Member

[2:59:04] Whitburn here Council Member

[2:59:08] Foster You're Council Member

[2:59:09] Ron Wilpert Council PRESIDENT

[2:59:13] Pro Tem Lee Council Member Can

[2:59:17] you hear Council Member Moreno

[2:59:18] present Council member Eli

[2:59:19] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT

[2:59:23] LaCava present Also attend

[2:59:24] the meeting Our Assistant City

[2:59:25] Attorney Lizzie Fitzgerald

[2:59:25] Independent Budget Analyst

[2:59:29] Charles Monica Council Affairs

[2:59:29] Advisor in the Mayor's office

[2:59:30] Curtis Iser and myself your

[2:59:33] city clerk Diana Fuentes Thank

[2:59:34] you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:59:34] right.

[2:59:34] Thank you.

[2:59:35] City Clerk We will start this

[2:59:37] afternoon with item 55 Paul

[2:59:38] from the consent agenda this

[2:59:38] morning and then trailed to

[2:59:42] this afternoon Before I ask

[2:59:43] the city clerk to introduce

[2:59:47] item 55 Councilmember Moreno,

[2:59:48] would you like to make a

[2:59:48] statement?

[2:59:49] >> Thank you.

[2:59:51] I'm recusing myself from an

[2:59:51] agenda item 55 Southwest

[2:59:52] Village Specific plan Project

[3:00:00] number pr Jade Dash 0614279.

[3:00:01] I have a conflict of interest

[3:00:02] because the project will have a

[3:00:05] material financial interest on

[3:00:06] residential property that I

[3:00:06] own.

[3:00:07] I will leave the status and not

[3:00:08] participate in the discussion

[3:00:13] or vote.

[3:00:14] All right, Thank you council

[3:00:15] member and only for you to

[3:00:18] leave Chambers And with that

[3:00:23] clerk please introduce item 55.

[3:00:24] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[3:00:26] Item 55 is a Southwest Village

[3:00:30] specific plan Project number

[3:00:30] prj0614791 If you'd like to

[3:00:31] speak on this item please

[3:00:35] submit a speaker slip now or

[3:00:36] raise your hand by pressing

[3:00:37] pressing star nine or the raise

[3:00:39] your hand icon There will be

[3:00:40] one minute per person.

[3:00:41] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[3:00:41] right.

[3:00:41] Thank you.

[3:00:44] As noted this item was

[3:00:45] originally heard by the full

[3:00:46] council with robust public

[3:00:49] participation on JULY 6th of

[3:00:50] this year During the items

[3:00:54] first reading the item in front

[3:00:54] of the city is a second reading

[3:00:55] required under our municipal

[3:00:55] code.

[3:00:59] So I will be waiving today's

[3:01:00] presentation unless any of my

[3:01:04] colleagues object not seeing

[3:01:04] any.

[3:01:05] >> So with that clerk please

[3:01:06] proceed with public comment

[3:01:10] Allegedly.

[3:01:11] Andrew if you can please come

[3:01:12] up to the microphone after that

[3:01:12] will be joining item And then

[3:01:15] we do have two people Alan

[3:01:16] Kershaw and Elizabeth Hanson

[3:01:19] here that would like to

[3:01:20] register their position in

[3:01:20] favor but do not wish to speak.

[3:01:24] Please proceed.

[3:01:25] >> Yes, I think you guys need

[3:01:25] to recuse yourself or sometimes

[3:01:30] Henry when you guys are going

[3:01:31] to be profiting off of projects

[3:01:34] school Yes, this is interesting

[3:01:35] because you guys have a lawsuit

[3:01:39] about this and and so it'll be

[3:01:40] interesting to see what happens

[3:01:44] with that And it's confusing

[3:01:45] when you say this is going to

[3:01:49] be a complete community and it

[3:01:50] seems contradictory to your

[3:01:51] plan when it's not really near

[3:01:55] anything.

[3:01:55] It's in the middle of nowhere,

[3:01:56] right?

[3:01:56] I mean if we build it they will

[3:02:00] come right eventually people

[3:02:01] will have public transit and it

[3:02:01] will be a complete community.

[3:02:02] But there's another concern is

[3:02:05] try point homes is got a

[3:02:06] consistent pattern of

[3:02:10] workmanship and structural

[3:02:10] issues.

[3:02:11] They have warranty denials and

[3:02:12] different things like that and

[3:02:16] they have also completely sold

[3:02:17] their properties to investors.

[3:02:17] So I'm wondering if you have

[3:02:21] anything in place to make sure

[3:02:21] that this property isn't going

[3:02:22] to be sold to an investor and

[3:02:23] not really be affordable at

[3:02:26] some point.

[3:02:27] Jason Yard if you can please

[3:02:31] come forward.

[3:02:37] >> Thank you so much.

[3:02:38] I really struggled with saying

[3:02:43] these words but I did fill out

[3:02:43] a slip that said in opposition

[3:02:47] Yet let me clarify that a bit.

[3:02:48] How do you say yes to the good

[3:02:52] the bad and the ugly?

[3:02:53] No, that's pretty strong.

[3:02:57] And I want to tell you

[3:02:58] the honesty about that.

[3:02:59] I need to go back and become a

[3:03:03] child in the community area and

[3:03:04] find out what it means to learn

[3:03:09] to be an underserved community,

[3:03:10] to be somebody that strives for

[3:03:15] these beautiful projects.

[3:03:15] I'm looking at it from such a

[3:03:16] superficial surface I don't

[3:03:20] like I don't want you to vote

[3:03:20] yes on some item.

[3:03:21] See I don't like that road

[3:03:22] Bridge Street going over

[3:03:26] the Parkland.

[3:03:27] That's my first No, no.

[3:03:28] So Audra said some very good

[3:03:32] points and so I only have a

[3:03:32] minute so I'll leave this up to

[3:03:33] you.

[3:03:38] I hope you agree to speak a

[3:03:39] little bit on it.

[3:03:39] Thank you for that concluding

[3:03:40] remark Going to those

[3:03:40] participating remotely I'm

[3:03:43] sorry the five minute timer if

[3:03:44] Blair McQueen please on mute.

[3:03:44] >> All right.

[3:03:48] Thank you.

[3:03:49] >> Where we going?

[3:03:49] Yeah.

[3:03:50] Good public comment previously

[3:03:54] thank you as this project was

[3:03:55] debated about JULY 6th I

[3:03:55] thought it was the intention to

[3:04:00] be slowly working and

[3:04:01] developing ideas.

[3:04:01] I don't I didn't feel it was

[3:04:06] like going into things full

[3:04:07] bore but just a continued

[3:04:11] development and understanding

[3:04:12] and a process of learning

[3:04:13] rather than everything is going

[3:04:13] to be now completed And this is

[3:04:17] what we're doing.

[3:04:18] There has to be a lot more give

[3:04:19] and take and dialog to figure

[3:04:19] things out with this item it

[3:04:23] seems like and that was what

[3:04:23] was presented at JULY 6th and I

[3:04:24] wish that more responsible

[3:04:29] position was more talked about.

[3:04:29] That's how we talk about this

[3:04:30] project and it was mentioned by

[3:04:35] the previous public speakers.

[3:04:35] A lot of additional things need

[3:04:36] to be addressed.

[3:04:36] You're being sued because

[3:04:37] things aren't being better

[3:04:41] addressed.

[3:04:42] Just please are you going slow

[3:04:42] with this project or not

[3:04:46] Quickly I think that's an

[3:04:46] important first step.

[3:04:47] >> Thank you.

[3:04:47] Thank you Natalie If you can

[3:04:51] please unmute.

[3:04:52] Hi Natalie.

[3:04:53] I didn't get to make it to

[3:04:57] the JULY sixth meeting so

[3:04:58] trying to be caught up on this

[3:04:59] information for my

[3:05:03] understanding this is a company

[3:05:04] that's based out of Japan.

[3:05:05] If that is true, why are we

[3:05:10] winning Japanese?

[3:05:11] Japan come in right.

[3:05:15] That's a lot of makers.

[3:05:16] Second of all for my

[3:05:17] understanding it's going to go

[3:05:21] over some crummy historical

[3:05:21] property.

[3:05:22] I'm not sure if they were

[3:05:27] contacted what they're their

[3:05:27] opinion was about it.

[3:05:28] I couldn't find that

[3:05:32] information and all

[3:05:33] the research that I do and it

[3:05:38] is hard to understand

[3:05:39] the language that's being used

[3:05:44] when it feels are happening So

[3:05:45] I'll save the rest for public

[3:05:45] comment.

[3:05:45] Thank you.

[3:05:46] Thank you Tony.

[3:05:53] If you can please unmute.

[3:05:59] Yes, I just wanted to support

[3:06:00] some of the comments that were

[3:06:01] sent earlier and I wanted to

[3:06:05] thank Vivian Moreno for

[3:06:06] recusing herself.

[3:06:06] She did so a couple of weeks

[3:06:11] ago as well for another issue

[3:06:12] and I thought it's a very

[3:06:13] classy, respectable move.

[3:06:17] So I very much appreciate that

[3:06:18] I'm going to register a neutral

[3:06:23] position on this item just

[3:06:23] because I don't know enough

[3:06:24] about it to have a strong

[3:06:25] opinion one way or the other.

[3:06:29] Thank you.

[3:06:29] >> Thank you.

[3:06:30] That does conclude public

[3:06:30] comment on this item.

[3:06:31] All right.

[3:06:35] Thank you city clerks.

[3:06:36] I'll turn over to my colleagues

[3:06:41] to have any questions, comments

[3:06:41] and entertain a motion.

[3:06:42] I will start with Councilmember

[3:06:46] Taylor regarding a motion by

[3:06:47] COUNCILMAN Real Rivera to move

[3:06:51] the staff recommendation I can

[3:06:52] I get a second and

[3:06:58] Councilmember Whipper All

[3:06:58] right.

[3:06:59] >> Okay.

[3:06:59] Anybody else?

[3:07:00] No lights We do have a motion

[3:07:04] by Councilmember Eli Rivera and

[3:07:05] a second by Councilmember

[3:07:06] Lippert to move a staff

[3:07:06] recommendation.

[3:07:07] Clerk Please call the roll.

[3:07:07] I'm sorry The voting system

[3:07:23] Please cast your vote That

[3:07:24] passes 5 to 2 with

[3:07:25] Councilmember Moreno recusing

[3:07:30] and Councilmember Campbell

[3:07:30] absent.

[3:07:31] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[3:07:31] All right.

[3:07:32] Thank you And thank you to

[3:07:33] staff for making yourself

[3:07:36] available for this hearing on

[3:07:37] consent item.

[3:07:40] So with that the clerk please

[3:07:41] introduce item 331 Item 331 is

[3:07:42] the performance audit of City

[3:07:46] of the city's management of its

[3:07:47] lease golf property portfolio.

[3:07:48] This is an informational item

[3:07:51] It will be two minutes per

[3:07:52] person for comment on this item

[3:07:52] If you are here please be sure

[3:07:53] to submit your speakers up to

[3:07:57] the front of the room or if

[3:07:58] you're participating remotely

[3:07:58] now's the time to raise your

[3:07:59] hand by pressing Star nine or

[3:08:00] the raise your hand icon.

[3:08:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[3:08:03] right.

[3:08:04] Thank you for using the item I

[3:08:08] see staff of settling in so if

[3:08:09] you could when you're ready

[3:08:09] introduce yourselves for

[3:08:10] the record and let us know how

[3:08:11] much time you need for your

[3:08:15] presentation.

[3:08:16] Good afternoon.

[3:08:16] Council PRESIDENT The other

[3:08:17] council members Andino City

[3:08:21] Auditor And we're here to

[3:08:21] present our performance audit

[3:08:22] of the city's lease to golf

[3:08:26] property portfolio and can we

[3:08:27] have about 12 minutes please?

[3:08:27] All right.

[3:08:28] Start when you're ready.

[3:08:28] Thank you.

[3:08:31] As we get started, I want to

[3:08:32] thank the Economic Development

[3:08:33] Department, the Parks and

[3:08:33] Recreation department golf

[3:08:38] division and the Office of

[3:08:39] the City Treasurer for all

[3:08:39] the assistance and perspective

[3:08:40] they provided our team on this

[3:08:44] audit.

[3:08:45] First to give you an overview

[3:08:45] of our presentation today our

[3:08:46] audit had two findings.

[3:08:50] Number one the city should

[3:08:51] collect and report performance

[3:08:51] data and lease information for

[3:08:55] its leased golf courses to

[3:08:56] assess lessee performance and

[3:08:56] maximize city revenue and

[3:08:57] public benefit.

[3:09:02] For example, we found a lease

[3:09:03] contained an opportunity to

[3:09:04] increase revenue from a country

[3:09:08] club The city owns and has

[3:09:08] taken action on this which

[3:09:09] we'll discuss later in our

[3:09:09] presentation.

[3:09:14] And number two, a lack of

[3:09:15] regular site inspections and

[3:09:16] ongoing holdovers.

[3:09:19] But this put the city's leased

[3:09:20] golf course properties at risk

[3:09:20] of property deterioration,

[3:09:21] reduced public benefit and lost

[3:09:26] financial value.

[3:09:26] We made seven recommendations

[3:09:27] all of which Eadie agreed to

[3:09:32] implement and as noted in

[3:09:33] the management response epd

[3:09:34] stated they recognize the value

[3:09:34] in enhancing performance

[3:09:38] monitoring, reporting and

[3:09:38] inspections of golf course

[3:09:39] properties and has also has

[3:09:43] already taken several steps

[3:09:44] towards implementing

[3:09:45] the recommendations and will

[3:09:45] highlight the steps taken in

[3:09:50] the presentation as well.

[3:09:51] With me here today is is

[3:09:52] Assistant City Auditor Matt

[3:09:56] Helm and performance under

[3:09:56] Kayla Edwards also want to

[3:09:57] recognize principal performance

[3:09:58] outdoor Megan Jaffer who is

[3:10:01] the manager on this project but

[3:10:02] could not be here today So I'll

[3:10:03] turn it over to Matt and Kayla

[3:10:04] to go over the details of what

[3:10:07] we found and recommended as

[3:10:08] well as the steps taken since

[3:10:08] the audit.

[3:10:08] >> Great.

[3:10:09] Thanks and good afternoon.

[3:10:13] Council PRESIDENT Members of

[3:10:14] Council I'm Matthew Home

[3:10:14] Assistant City Auditor.

[3:10:15] Just to add to things I did

[3:10:16] want to give a special

[3:10:19] recognition to John Howard and

[3:10:20] his team in the Parks and Rec

[3:10:20] Golf division.

[3:10:25] We do have golf experts in

[3:10:25] the city.

[3:10:26] John is one of them.

[3:10:27] He kind of gave us the golf

[3:10:31] course Management for Dummies

[3:10:31] tutorial and his assistance was

[3:10:32] really valuable throughout.

[3:10:33] So the reason I bring that up

[3:10:37] is because leveraging our

[3:10:38] in-house expertise is sort of

[3:10:38] part and parcel of some of

[3:10:39] the findings and

[3:10:39] recommendations that you'll

[3:10:43] hear in just a moment here.

[3:10:44] So largely due to the amount of

[3:10:44] revenue public interface and

[3:10:49] the overall value at risk given

[3:10:50] the property sizes throughout

[3:10:51] the city.

[3:10:51] Golf routinely scores high on

[3:10:55] our annual risk assessment this

[3:10:55] year so sorry.

[3:10:56] We previously conducted an

[3:10:57] audit of the city operated golf

[3:11:02] courses in 2015.

[3:11:02] I'm pleased to note that

[3:11:03] the Golf division has

[3:11:03] implemented all of those

[3:11:04] recommendations.

[3:11:07] But for this particular audit

[3:11:08] we focus on the other a

[3:11:09] substantial portion of

[3:11:09] the city's golf portfolio

[3:11:10] specifically those courses

[3:11:14] owned by the city but operated

[3:11:14] by the city golf course leases

[3:11:19] bring in a significant amount

[3:11:20] of revenue for the city

[3:11:20] approximately 3.7 million in

[3:11:26] 2020 for which are which is

[3:11:26] the end of our school period.

[3:11:27] And generally our objective was

[3:11:28] to ensure that the city is

[3:11:31] maximizing the value and

[3:11:32] the public benefit of its

[3:11:33] leased golf property portfolio.

[3:11:37] The specific parts of

[3:11:38] the objectives are list on that

[3:11:39] slide but I won't read those

[3:11:43] through for you just by way of

[3:11:44] background and to provide some

[3:11:44] context on there's a lot on

[3:11:45] the slide but I'll try to

[3:11:45] summarize.

[3:11:49] So the city owns 11 golf

[3:11:49] courses, right?

[3:11:50] Three are the ones you know of

[3:11:53] probably Torrey Pines mission

[3:11:54] Bay and Balboa Park and those

[3:11:55] are like as I said previously

[3:11:56] operated by the Parks and

[3:11:59] Recreation Department by

[3:12:00] the Golf division.

[3:12:00] Revenues from these courses go

[3:12:01] to the Golf Enterprise Fund

[3:12:06] which supports their operations

[3:12:06] and the city knows well that

[3:12:07] these revenues have proved

[3:12:12] valuable in our budget process

[3:12:13] this year over the remaining

[3:12:13] eight courses or at least by or

[3:12:14] at least a third party

[3:12:14] operators.

[3:12:18] So four courses are owned by

[3:12:19] the Public utilities

[3:12:19] department.

[3:12:20] These revenues go to the water

[3:12:24] fund helping offset repair

[3:12:25] water bills for example And

[3:12:29] calendar year 24 of the lease

[3:12:30] courses generated 2.1 million

[3:12:31] for the water fund.

[3:12:31] Four of the other courses are

[3:12:35] owned by the parks and recs

[3:12:36] department and those revenues

[3:12:37] go to the city's general fund

[3:12:37] in calendar 24 of these courses

[3:12:42] generated about 1.6 million for

[3:12:42] the city's general fund In

[3:12:43] general Eadie is responsible

[3:12:47] for managing the golf course

[3:12:48] the least golf course

[3:12:48] portfolio.

[3:12:53] So although our audit focused

[3:12:54] on the city's leased golf

[3:12:55] courses as I said earlier, we

[3:13:00] did rely on the city operated

[3:13:00] courses as points of comparison

[3:13:01] and solicited their expertise

[3:13:02] throughout the engagement.

[3:13:05] So let me get into the findings

[3:13:06] here and finding one.

[3:13:07] We found that the city's golf

[3:13:07] courses are valuable properties

[3:13:10] that bring in over 3.3 million

[3:13:11] a year.

[3:13:11] However, the lease agreements

[3:13:16] do not include the standard

[3:13:17] performance reporting

[3:13:17] requirements and the city does

[3:13:18] not require does not report

[3:13:19] lease terms or performance of

[3:13:22] the leased golf courses

[3:13:23] publicly through any mechanism

[3:13:23] such as the real estate

[3:13:28] portfolio management plan or

[3:13:29] the golf business plan update.

[3:13:30] So it's not consolidated in one

[3:13:30] place.

[3:13:34] This means that city management

[3:13:34] ,the city council and

[3:13:35] the public aren't aware of how

[3:13:36] the city's leased golf courses

[3:13:40] are performing and whether

[3:13:40] there are opportunities to

[3:13:41] increase revenue, for example,

[3:13:46] or increase the public benefit.

[3:13:47] And in fact some stakeholders

[3:13:48] MAY not even be aware that we

[3:13:48] own a live of courses I didn't

[3:13:52] prior to starting this

[3:13:52] engagement and just by way of

[3:13:53] benchmarking we really did do

[3:13:58] our level best to try to focus

[3:13:58] apples to apples because

[3:13:59] there's a lot out there in

[3:14:00] the space But the what shown on

[3:14:00] the slide we think is a

[3:14:03] reasonable comparison.

[3:14:04] Other jurisdictions golf

[3:14:04] courses have performance

[3:14:05] reporting requirements and

[3:14:09] the golf division our own golf

[3:14:10] division collects and publicly

[3:14:11] reports performance on city

[3:14:11] operated golf courses.

[3:14:16] Public reporting increases

[3:14:17] transparency and accountability

[3:14:17] Help can help drive

[3:14:18] improvements.

[3:14:21] This approach has worked well

[3:14:22] for city operated courses.

[3:14:23] For example, at the time of our

[3:14:23] previous audit of the city

[3:14:28] system, Torrey Pines was

[3:14:28] subsidizing the other two

[3:14:29] course systems.

[3:14:30] But that situation has changed.

[3:14:30] Those courses are self

[3:14:34] sustaining and a lot of that

[3:14:35] has to do with the strategic

[3:14:35] management the golf division

[3:14:39] has executed and that is that

[3:14:40] effort has been informed by

[3:14:41] various performance analytics.

[3:14:45] So performance and lease term

[3:14:46] reporting is essential for

[3:14:46] spotting trends and revenue

[3:14:47] opportunities as shown in

[3:14:52] the graphic on the slide we

[3:14:52] found that the financial return

[3:14:53] to the city very significantly

[3:14:53] across Les's.

[3:14:58] There's lots of reasons for

[3:14:58] that.

[3:14:59] Those leases were negotiated at

[3:14:59] different points in time.

[3:15:00] They have different provisions

[3:15:04] in that in and of itself makes

[3:15:04] sense.

[3:15:05] However higher revenues for

[3:15:06] lessees don't always mean

[3:15:09] higher returns for the city and

[3:15:10] rent The percentage of total

[3:15:11] revenue that lessees paid to

[3:15:14] the city varies widely ranging

[3:15:15] from 1% to 25%.

[3:15:15] That would be a percentage of

[3:15:16] that operator's revenues right

[3:15:22] for that property.

[3:15:22] On the next slide we'll show

[3:15:23] you some examples of how those

[3:15:24] data can benefit the management

[3:15:26] of this valuable portfolio So

[3:15:27] performance reporting can help

[3:15:32] the city identify and quickly

[3:15:33] pursue opportunities to

[3:15:34] increase city share of revenue

[3:15:34] and adjust lease terms when

[3:15:38] it's appropriate to do so which

[3:15:39] is shown on this slide.

[3:15:40] So in the report we highlighted

[3:15:44] the Fairbanks Ranch Country

[3:15:45] Club which earns about 17 at

[3:15:46] the time of the audit earned

[3:15:49] about 17 million in revenue

[3:15:50] about 8 million in expenses

[3:15:54] annually but pays the city

[3:15:54] 864,000 rent.

[3:15:55] This is largely due to that to

[3:15:59] the terms of the lease that

[3:16:00] were amended in 2016 for

[3:16:01] Fairbanks and it's structured

[3:16:04] in a way that results in

[3:16:05] the operator only paying 5% of

[3:16:05] its gross revenues as shown on

[3:16:06] the slide.

[3:16:10] Another lease course by way of

[3:16:11] comparison is mission trails

[3:16:11] that make significantly less

[3:16:12] than overall revenue pays more

[3:16:16] in rent and about 22% of its

[3:16:17] gross revenue.

[3:16:21] So that's 22% versus the 5% for

[3:16:22] the one shown on the slide In

[3:16:27] reviewing the Fairbanks lease

[3:16:28] at the time of this audit we

[3:16:28] did note there was a provision

[3:16:29] in the lease that the city

[3:16:34] could notify the operator of an

[3:16:34] intent to reappraise and

[3:16:35] provided a potential for them

[3:16:35] to adjust the ramp.

[3:16:40] We discussed that with Ed and

[3:16:41] they did take action on that.

[3:16:41] So as noted in the report we

[3:16:46] indicated that if

[3:16:47] the percentage rents were set

[3:16:47] at 20% which again is similar

[3:16:48] to what is paid in mission

[3:16:52] trails and for example

[3:16:53] technology we estimate the city

[3:16:56] could gain approximately 2.5

[3:16:57] million more for the general

[3:16:58] fund annually.

[3:16:58] There was a hypothetical at

[3:16:59] the time based on what

[3:17:02] the rates that that the other

[3:17:03] courses were paying.

[3:17:03] So we'll discuss that a little

[3:17:04] bit more.

[3:17:05] Kelly can go to the next slide.

[3:17:09] So performance reporting can

[3:17:09] also help identify

[3:17:10] under-performance and improve

[3:17:10] transparency.

[3:17:11] So again thanks to John Howard

[3:17:14] and his team for kind of

[3:17:15] explaining how certain

[3:17:16] performance indicators can help

[3:17:20] assess these types of things.

[3:17:21] On this slide you see for

[3:17:22] example Galena Park and

[3:17:22] Presidio Hills are similar in

[3:17:26] size but cleaner had three

[3:17:27] times the rounds played in

[3:17:27] 2025.

[3:17:28] We don't make any judgment.

[3:17:32] There could be reasons for that

[3:17:33] but it's the type of data that

[3:17:33] would help inform at least a

[3:17:34] line of inquiry into why that

[3:17:38] might be The rounds it rounds

[3:17:39] data where consistently

[3:17:40] reported the city could

[3:17:40] identify underperforming

[3:17:41] courses and inquire to

[3:17:44] determine potential underlying

[3:17:45] classes causes.

[3:17:50] Sorry So why are performance

[3:17:50] measures important?

[3:17:51] It's not just data for data

[3:17:51] sake.

[3:17:52] I know you know auditors like

[3:17:56] that kind of stuff but in in

[3:17:57] the case of golf it really does

[3:17:57] matter.

[3:17:58] So collecting and analyzing

[3:17:58] performance information could

[3:18:02] also be used by city management

[3:18:03] and policymakers to determine

[3:18:03] the highest and best use of

[3:18:07] these golf properties.

[3:18:08] Assess whether the public is

[3:18:08] receiving fair value and verify

[3:18:09] the accuracy of revenues

[3:18:14] reported by lessees as shown on

[3:18:14] the exhibit.

[3:18:15] On this slide we found that

[3:18:19] city revenue per acre varies

[3:18:19] widely across city operated and

[3:18:20] lessee operated golf courses

[3:18:21] for its three city operated

[3:18:26] courses As the ones you all

[3:18:27] know at Mission Bay Torrey

[3:18:28] Pines Balboa City received an

[3:18:30] average of 9097 per acre By

[3:18:31] comparison its eight least

[3:18:36] courses average revenue of

[3:18:36] about 4736 Without performance

[3:18:41] reporting the public and

[3:18:42] policymakers do not have

[3:18:42] information about what drives

[3:18:43] these differences whether it's

[3:18:44] lease terms, course conditions

[3:18:48] or other operator performance.

[3:18:49] The next slide Kenneth.

[3:18:50] So we made it through this

[3:18:54] finding finding one We made six

[3:18:55] recommendations To Ed's credit

[3:18:59] they they agreed and it was

[3:19:00] the type of agreement where

[3:19:01] they didn't write agree and

[3:19:01] then write, you know, an

[3:19:02] explanation about why they

[3:19:05] actually disagreed.

[3:19:06] They actually wrote a good

[3:19:07] response to all of these.

[3:19:07] We recommended that Eadie

[3:19:08] should work with the golf

[3:19:11] division to ensure new leases

[3:19:12] include performance reporting

[3:19:13] requirements and ebd has

[3:19:17] indicated to us that this

[3:19:18] included performance

[3:19:19] requirements in its new golf

[3:19:19] course lease agreements that

[3:19:23] are currently under

[3:19:23] negotiation.

[3:19:24] I know we haven't verified this

[3:19:25] this would be part of our

[3:19:25] normal recommendation follow up

[3:19:28] so we will follow up per our

[3:19:29] normal process.

[3:19:30] We also recommended that

[3:19:30] the golf division and eads

[3:19:34] should report leased golf

[3:19:34] performance information in

[3:19:35] the annual golf business plan

[3:19:36] update That's an existing

[3:19:40] report that covers the cities

[3:19:40] and the city operated courses.

[3:19:41] Our recommendation was is that

[3:19:45] we make everything together and

[3:19:46] include all of the golf golf

[3:19:46] courses in there for all

[3:19:50] the comparative reasons that I

[3:19:51] just previously indicated and

[3:19:51] that a cost reimbursement

[3:19:52] mechanism for the golf fund

[3:19:56] should be established for work

[3:19:56] performed for the least

[3:19:57] courses.

[3:19:57] So to the extent that they're

[3:20:01] utilizing John in his team

[3:20:02] there should be some mechanism

[3:20:02] for them to be compensated for

[3:20:03] that But that's not currently

[3:20:06] part of their portfolio.

[3:20:07] Our understanding is that

[3:20:08] the mechanism for so doing is

[3:20:12] in process and as I said we

[3:20:13] will verify that as part of our

[3:20:16] normal process.

[3:20:17] Just to continue on here we

[3:20:18] also recommended that edc

[3:20:21] conduct an appraisal and of

[3:20:22] the Fairbanks Ranch Country

[3:20:22] Club specifically and adjust

[3:20:27] the rent as appropriate and as

[3:20:28] allowed by the 2016 lease Since

[3:20:28] the time of the audit is

[3:20:32] conducted in appraisal and

[3:20:33] adjusted percentage rents,

[3:20:33] however the estimated

[3:20:37] the estimated percentage rent

[3:20:38] adjustment that will result in

[3:20:42] the lessee paying about 7%

[3:20:42] above.

[3:20:43] So it's currently five so we'll

[3:20:46] be paying 7% Now that's

[3:20:47] the again not included in

[3:20:47] the report but that's

[3:20:52] information that we have most

[3:20:52] currently.

[3:20:53] i'll now turn it over to

[3:20:53] the present.

[3:20:56] I apologize We're over on time

[3:20:57] a little bit but I'll now turn

[3:20:57] over to Kayla to wrap this up

[3:20:58] and be briefer than I was.

[3:21:02] >> Thanks.

[3:21:02] Thanks Matt.

[3:21:03] For a second finding we found

[3:21:07] that it has a goal to inspect

[3:21:08] all properties in the city's

[3:21:08] real estate portfolio annually

[3:21:12] however inspects the city's

[3:21:12] eight leased golf course

[3:21:13] properties at an average

[3:21:15] interval of 3.4 years.

[3:21:16] >> The value of golf courses

[3:21:21] degrades rapidly relative to

[3:21:21] other property types.

[3:21:22] If they're not properly

[3:21:22] maintained, poor maintenance

[3:21:26] can lead to higher repair

[3:21:26] costs, weaken the city's

[3:21:27] position in lease negotiations

[3:21:31] and reduce both playability and

[3:21:31] revenue Potential consistent

[3:21:32] inspections help ensure

[3:21:36] operators continue investing in

[3:21:36] and maintaining the courses

[3:21:37] including when leases are in

[3:21:41] hold over.

[3:21:42] It uses a general inspection

[3:21:42] form for all city leased

[3:21:45] properties including its golf

[3:21:46] courses.

[3:21:46] However, working with the Golf

[3:21:47] division on inspections will

[3:21:49] help ensure golf specific

[3:21:50] property conditions are

[3:21:55] properly assessed.

[3:21:56] >> At the time of the audit

[3:21:57] the city had four golf course

[3:22:00] leases in holdover These leases

[3:22:00] are listed here on this slide

[3:22:01] with notably one being in

[3:22:04] Boulder where for 11 years one

[3:22:04] of our recommendation is to

[3:22:05] report on the lease terms

[3:22:09] specifically lease expiration

[3:22:09] dates So this will provide more

[3:22:13] visibility into when leases are

[3:22:14] expiring.

[3:22:15] Renewing leases before they

[3:22:18] expire allows the city to

[3:22:19] adjust the rent to receive

[3:22:24] current fair market value.

[3:22:25] >> We made one recommendation

[3:22:26] in findings You and edt should

[3:22:28] work with the golf division to

[3:22:29] inspect the city's leased golf

[3:22:30] course properties at least

[3:22:33] annually and report on their

[3:22:34] conditions in the annual golf

[3:22:35] business plan update Eddy is

[3:22:38] working with the Golf division

[3:22:38] to fully implement this

[3:22:42] recommendation Management

[3:22:43] agreed to implement all seven

[3:22:43] of our recommendations and with

[3:22:44] that this concludes our

[3:22:47] presentation of this

[3:22:48] informational item and we are

[3:22:48] available for any questions you

[3:22:49] MAY have.

[3:22:52] >> All right.

[3:22:52] Thank you for the work and

[3:22:53] thank you for the presentation

[3:22:54] this afternoon with that clerk

[3:22:54] Please proceed with public

[3:22:57] comment.

[3:22:57] Thank you.

[3:22:58] Council PRESIDENT Allegedly.

[3:22:59] Audrey, if you can please come

[3:23:02] up to the microphone after that

[3:23:03] will be Joyce Senator and then

[3:23:04] Laurie Saldana if you can

[3:23:05] please come up to the front row

[3:23:05] .

[3:23:10] You'll have two minutes.

[3:23:11] I'm going to share something

[3:23:11] real quick and I don't care if

[3:23:14] you start me but I just was

[3:23:15] giving my lunch to a homeless

[3:23:16] man on the way back and he gave

[3:23:19] me this necklace and I thought

[3:23:20] it was really special because I

[3:23:23] want him to pick it And he did

[3:23:24] .

[3:23:25] The one I picked wasn't like

[3:23:25] this but I just thought, you

[3:23:29] know, always makes a difference

[3:23:30] when you do something good

[3:23:30] because I was still hungry but

[3:23:33] I wanted him to eat because I

[3:23:34] can still get food Anyway, this

[3:23:35] is interesting because it's

[3:23:38] like you guys hate Trump.

[3:23:39] His name was Ricardo by

[3:23:40] the way, which is Richard was

[3:23:40] great.

[3:23:43] He's just over by the trolley.

[3:23:48] But this is interesting because

[3:23:48] it's like we are talking about

[3:23:49] No, I just lost my train of

[3:23:55] thought Oh my gosh The with

[3:23:55] the golf funds it's like you

[3:23:56] guys are sitting here and

[3:23:57] saying that you don't like

[3:23:59] Trump.

[3:24:00] I'm wondering if you're I mean

[3:24:01] he uses these golf courses So

[3:24:01] are you guys going to stop him

[3:24:05] from doing that at some point?

[3:24:05] No, because you want his money,

[3:24:06] right?

[3:24:09] I know it's good And I feel

[3:24:10] like if you guys can't I mean

[3:24:14] poor maintenance it's like

[3:24:14] these are opportunities to make

[3:24:15] money off of people who and

[3:24:18] this is hard because I don't

[3:24:19] really like you guys making

[3:24:19] money because I can't trust you

[3:24:22] when you make the money.

[3:24:23] So it's like I don't know that

[3:24:24] I want to give you ideas on how

[3:24:25] to make it because you're not

[3:24:28] good stewards of it And that's

[3:24:32] the unfortunate thing is like

[3:24:33] you know the way that you guys

[3:24:33] do business isn't what's

[3:24:37] beneficial for the people but

[3:24:38] it's more what's beneficial for

[3:24:42] the pockets of others And I

[3:24:43] just feel like when you guys

[3:24:44] could make money that would

[3:24:47] benefit us that would you know

[3:24:48] you that you could spend on

[3:24:49] things that we're going to you

[3:24:52] know, improve our communities

[3:24:56] then it's like absolutely But

[3:24:57] again like I feel like I just

[3:24:58] don't even want to tell you how

[3:24:58] to make more money with this

[3:25:02] because I just can't trust you

[3:25:02] with it And that's unfortunate.

[3:25:06] I wish you guys were, you know,

[3:25:06] doing what you were there to do

[3:25:11] and not the opposite.

[3:25:12] >> But this is an inverted

[3:25:12] world and we're in scenes

[3:25:13] playground so hey, that's what

[3:25:16] you get an incentive.

[3:25:17] Joyce Anybody if you can please

[3:25:20] come forward.

[3:25:21] Thank you, Audra It was a

[3:25:25] beautiful example.

[3:25:26] We needed to hear that.

[3:25:30] You know, folks, I really work

[3:25:35] hard for us these kind of items

[3:25:40] make We want to go home, pack

[3:25:41] up a picnic lunch, go have a

[3:25:43] picnic in a park and count

[3:25:47] butterflies.

[3:25:48] These kind of reports should

[3:25:52] not be heard ever.

[3:25:59] Why haven't we cleaned this up

[3:25:59] ?

[3:26:04] Why does this continue to come

[3:26:05] out from our beautiful other

[3:26:05] department?

[3:26:09] I've been doing this for years.

[3:26:10] >> You asked former Chair

[3:26:14] Falconer.

[3:26:19] I cannot believe that we

[3:26:24] continue Fairbanks example Is

[3:26:24] that shocking or what?

[3:26:29] >> Joy, I'm going to pause you.

[3:26:30] We're going to save your time

[3:26:31] and give you a chance to start

[3:26:31] over.

[3:26:33] We've lost audio so we have to

[3:26:34] pause the meeting until we can

[3:26:38] fix the city tv So sorry you're

[3:26:39] right in the middle but we're

[3:26:40] required to kind of interrupt

[3:26:40] the meeting.

[3:26:43] >> What you're saying I have to

[3:26:44] completely stop.

[3:26:44] >> Completely stop.

[3:26:49] Look at the screen.

[3:26:49] >> We've lost the doors empty.

[3:26:52] I did it online.

[3:26:53] >> So the zoom feed is We will

[3:26:54] start your clock.

[3:26:54] You'll have a chance to start

[3:26:58] from the beginning But we're

[3:26:59] pausing the meeting until we

[3:27:02] can get it fixed.

[3:27:03] You know my hearing goes in and

[3:27:03] out some time.

[3:27:04] Do you want me to continue now

[3:27:07] You have to stop and we'll let

[3:27:08] you know because you want me to

[3:27:08] sit.

[3:27:29] Yeah, but bigger idea similar

[3:27:34] to that.

[3:28:46] No, no, no, no, no

[3:28:46] .

[3:28:55] And thank you for your

[3:28:55] patience.

[3:28:59] We are back online.

[3:28:59] >> Okay.

[3:29:04] We are ready for you, Joy.

[3:29:05] Yeah, we'll start We'll give

[3:29:12] you the full two minutes That

[3:29:17] didn't feel good.

[3:29:17] Okay.

[3:29:22] I have no idea where I was.

[3:29:23] But anyway, I know I started

[3:29:24] with the butterflies and

[3:29:27] the picnic and I'm still there.

[3:29:28] Maybe that's what I'll do

[3:29:36] tomorrow.

[3:29:37] >> I need to talk with Panda

[3:29:38] Bear.

[3:29:41] What?

[3:29:42] And I need to find out what's

[3:29:42] happening.

[3:29:43] What The key performance

[3:29:46] indicators.

[3:29:47] They're not happening.

[3:29:47] I'm going to have order

[3:29:48] droughts Going to be nice

[3:29:52] enough to come up.

[3:29:52] >> We're still here.

[3:29:53] So they're still fixing it,

[3:29:53] huh?

[3:29:55] They're still fixing it.

[3:29:56] I thought you told me to come

[3:29:57] up with They did, but it's

[3:29:57] okay.

[3:29:59] Let's go.

[3:30:00] >> So let her know that we're

[3:30:01] talking about Right.

[3:30:04] We're breaking.

[3:30:05] No, I know, darling.

[3:30:05] I know.

[3:30:05] Let's go.

[3:30:08] You know You know what?

[3:30:09] And then you start over.

[3:30:10] No, you just stay right here.

[3:30:10] Good.

[3:30:10] Okay.

[3:30:15] Automakers you notice about

[3:30:15] the got the audit and the golf

[3:30:16] course These you're not

[3:30:18] recording it but you people do

[3:30:19] have ears and you can listen to

[3:30:20] us So I know what's happening

[3:30:24] But I want you to know that

[3:30:25] this is order right here So I'm

[3:30:26] sorry I missed and yada because

[3:30:28] of the Brown Act and the way it

[3:30:29] is the council cannot proceed

[3:30:30] with the meeting If the Zoom is

[3:30:32] not in place due to sb 707

[3:30:33] which is why they need to pause

[3:30:37] people when the people at home

[3:30:38] need to hear you as well until

[3:30:42] they go back online because

[3:30:43] otherwise they can't hear it so

[3:30:44] they'll let us know.

[3:30:48] Yeah it went out again can

[3:30:49] still see like you can see that

[3:30:53] they Yeah I can hear me get

[3:30:53] the money or they can but they

[3:30:56] can't proceed because open to

[3:31:10] the public and right now get

[3:31:39] these Are you still on Twitter

[3:31:43] I kicked everyone out right

[3:31:44] they try going back in I want

[3:31:57] to become the host Yeah And it

[3:32:02] was on such a roll.

[3:32:10] Yeah yeah, yeah And time I'm

[3:32:11] okay.

[3:32:25] We Oh yeah I'm on We can walk

[3:32:53] up and know if city tv can call

[3:32:57] me confirm that they're getting

[3:33:11] video from the chambers Okay

[3:35:11] okay

[3:35:22] .

[3:35:23] Thank you for your patience

[3:35:23] Again the meeting has been

[3:35:27] restored.

[3:35:28] All right.

[3:35:29] For those listening in, we did

[3:35:31] lose the Zoom connection.

[3:35:32] We did pause the meeting once

[3:35:37] we learned of that and now

[3:35:37] we're going to resume

[3:35:41] the meeting So Audra, you think

[3:35:55] she's ready to okay.

[3:36:00] >> So butterflies and picnics

[3:36:01] are looking much better as

[3:36:05] the moment goes on.

[3:36:06] Just want to let you know that

[3:36:13] So this is stuck at two or

[3:36:13] what's going on here?

[3:36:14] Let it be.

[3:36:19] Thank you.

[3:36:19] So all right.

[3:36:23] I said the butterfly thing

[3:36:28] Panda bear Panda bear Panda

[3:36:33] performance and Alex know that

[3:36:34] I love them and that I respect

[3:36:38] them and that their work is

[3:36:42] enormously important And I.

[3:36:43] I have still have a love affair

[3:36:47] with get it done yet something

[3:36:48] is happening that's not good

[3:36:53] with the KPIs and I don't think

[3:36:58] he used kpi when the audit

[3:36:58] report was done I think he use

[3:37:04] performance something or other

[3:37:05] .

[3:37:06] I don't think he even said

[3:37:06] performance indicators But you

[3:37:10] said performance in that as

[3:37:11] everyone knows after what you

[3:37:14] just said the performance was

[3:37:15] ugly and we just swept under

[3:37:19] the carpet and let it happen.

[3:37:20] So this seems to be a

[3:37:24] reoccurring thing that happens

[3:37:25] at city council where we I

[3:37:29] don't know if we sweep it under

[3:37:29] the carpet, maybe we don't lift

[3:37:33] the carpet up and look and see

[3:37:34] what's there.

[3:37:34] i don't think we're the ones

[3:37:38] that sweep it but it's there.

[3:37:42] It's been carried on or what So

[3:37:43] thank you all That department I

[3:37:47] think what you did is fabulous

[3:37:47] .

[3:37:48] What you continue to do is

[3:37:48] fabulous.

[3:37:52] I wish you could overlay

[3:37:57] the basic process that you do

[3:37:58] for us and tell us what really

[3:38:02] is happening that would help us

[3:38:03] straighten out the structural

[3:38:07] budget deficit and get a handle

[3:38:08] on that And that would keep us

[3:38:12] from going to these dark places

[3:38:12] and seeing things that are

[3:38:13] really happening that hurt our

[3:38:14] our citizens.

[3:38:24] >> Thank you very much.

[3:38:25] Peggy Walker, can you hear me?

[3:38:30] Can you unmute Oh wait.

[3:38:33] Oh, Lori Saldana my apologies.

[3:38:42] No, no, no.

[3:38:43] This reminds me of the saying

[3:38:47] It is a truth universally

[3:38:48] acknowledged that a city in

[3:38:48] possession of a good climate

[3:38:52] and a tourism based economy is

[3:38:52] in need of golf courses.

[3:38:56] Everyone knows that.

[3:38:57] And so the fact that we are

[3:39:01] subsidizing the wealthiest

[3:39:02] players of golf in the city of

[3:39:06] San Diego is just shocking.

[3:39:07] I'm shocked.

[3:39:08] How many golf courses do we

[3:39:11] have south of the 94 or

[3:39:11] the communities in the south

[3:39:15] area of San Diego?

[3:39:16] I'm just curious how many golf

[3:39:19] courses do we have for

[3:39:20] the communities that we

[3:39:20] continue to refer to as

[3:39:24] under-resourced?

[3:39:25] And here we have the most

[3:39:26] resourced community with

[3:39:29] the highest per capita income

[3:39:30] per zip code I think in

[3:39:32] the country paying the least to

[3:39:37] golf.

[3:39:38] Thank you for doing this

[3:39:38] report.

[3:39:42] You cannot improve I say this

[3:39:43] so often to this council you

[3:39:43] cannot improve what you don't

[3:39:46] measure.

[3:39:47] We are not measuring now we

[3:39:48] will begin to measure golf

[3:39:52] courses and how much we're

[3:39:52] generating in revenue to

[3:39:53] the city of San Diego.

[3:39:57] So congratulations on achieving

[3:39:57] that.

[3:39:58] I think we need to look even

[3:40:01] though I mentioned we have a

[3:40:02] good climate and a tourism

[3:40:03] based economy there are things

[3:40:06] that are working against that

[3:40:07] like climate change and

[3:40:08] increased heat and the need to

[3:40:08] supplement golf courses because

[3:40:11] we don't get as much rain So

[3:40:12] they need more water and water

[3:40:15] is more expensive And how many

[3:40:16] golf courses can we really keep

[3:40:17] going forward within the budget

[3:40:21] constraints as the climate

[3:40:21] changes?

[3:40:22] But most importantly how many

[3:40:26] golf courses can we continue to

[3:40:27] subsidize while other

[3:40:33] communities have and we're out

[3:40:39] right we're offline again is no

[3:40:39] it this is it still we're

[3:40:40] fixing some audio.

[3:40:43] It's going in and out But

[3:40:43] the zoom is still going.

[3:40:44] Oh, okay.

[3:40:47] So the question for San Diego

[3:40:48] is really how much money do we

[3:40:49] want to use to subsidize

[3:40:50] the wealthiest people not just

[3:40:53] in our region but in

[3:40:54] the country per capita income

[3:40:54] versus how much do we want to

[3:40:57] make available for youth

[3:40:58] opportunities to play golf, to

[3:41:03] learn golf which is a social

[3:41:07] activity that many people don't

[3:41:07] learn unless they have some

[3:41:08] early education and

[3:41:08] opportunities.

[3:41:11] So thank you for doing this

[3:41:20] study.

[3:41:21] >> Okay, so video seems to be

[3:41:21] working.

[3:41:22] The audio is kind of touch and

[3:41:23] go So they're going to do a

[3:41:28] full reboot reboot And so if

[3:41:29] you're listening we are pausing

[3:41:31] the council meeting for this

[3:43:31] reboot

[3:45:17] .

[3:47:18] >> It's

[3:47:47] a test test test 12342 quick

[3:47:48] staff if you can let me know in

[3:48:08] the chat if you can hear me and

[3:48:09] test test 123 city quick staff

[3:48:10] and you can let me know in

[3:48:21] the chat if you can hear me for

[3:48:21] an eventful day And we have

[3:48:26] audio and video backup.

[3:48:27] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[3:48:28] The public and the council

[3:48:28] members for your patience with

[3:48:33] technology.

[3:48:33] All right.

[3:48:34] As a reminder again the council

[3:48:35] fees doing business while we

[3:48:38] resolve those technical issues

[3:48:38] and I believe we're on public

[3:48:43] comment Any more public comment

[3:48:44] in person?

[3:48:44] Are we now going to go to

[3:48:45] virtual virtual virtual?

[3:48:45] Okay.

[3:48:49] Thank you.

[3:48:50] I'm sorry the five minute timer

[3:48:51] to those participating online.

[3:48:54] So Taylor, if you can please

[3:48:55] unmute and let me and proceed

[3:48:59] with your public comment for

[3:48:59] item 331.

[3:48:59] Right.

[3:49:00] Can you hear me?

[3:49:00] Yes we can.

[3:49:01] Okay.

[3:49:01] Yeah.

[3:49:05] Okay.

[3:49:05] That was exciting.

[3:49:06] My name's Sue Taylor and I used

[3:49:07] to work for the city of San

[3:49:12] Diego in the real State

[3:49:12] Department so I'm kind of

[3:49:13] familiar with these golf

[3:49:13] courses.

[3:49:16] I actually live down video

[3:49:17] Anyway, just two things One,

[3:49:23] the Carlton Oaks Golf course.

[3:49:24] The city hasn't owned the whole

[3:49:25] thing so it can't really be

[3:49:25] treated as the same as all

[3:49:28] the courses They only owned

[3:49:29] like nine holes of that golf

[3:49:29] course and the pro shop and

[3:49:35] everything is on the private

[3:49:36] property So you have to take

[3:49:36] that in consideration.

[3:49:40] Also the then golf course is

[3:49:41] kind of like see this can do

[3:49:42] those municipal course and they

[3:49:46] run it with an operator and we

[3:49:46] own like 50% of the land.

[3:49:47] They're not the whole thing

[3:49:47] either.

[3:49:48] So I just want to point out

[3:49:51] those two are not the same as

[3:49:51] all the others.

[3:49:51] >> That's it.

[3:49:52] Thanks.

[3:49:52] Thank you.

[3:49:53] Hector, if you can please

[3:50:01] unmute I hope you guys can keep

[3:50:01] this Hector He didn't cut off

[3:50:02] on the zoom but that condition

[3:50:06] Yes.

[3:50:07] >> We can't Please proceed.

[3:50:08] Well, Fairbanks ranch is

[3:50:08] planned.

[3:50:09] You know there are a bunch of

[3:50:14] attorneys there We get

[3:50:15] the backroom deal through Todd

[3:50:16] or maybe the last mayor Those

[3:50:19] guys are attorneys are playing

[3:50:19] big time.

[3:50:20] The Olympics was played there

[3:50:20] in 84.

[3:50:20] I was there.

[3:50:24] The event was on the course.

[3:50:25] That's a high golf course.

[3:50:26] You should triple the rent on

[3:50:26] them.

[3:50:31] You know, just do it by triple

[3:50:32] it but don't do it by how much

[3:50:35] revenue they have because

[3:50:36] they're scamming the revenue.

[3:50:36] They can make it seem like

[3:50:37] they're losing money and

[3:50:41] they're not They're attorneys

[3:50:42] Accountants triple the rent.

[3:50:43] Just don't do it by revenue

[3:50:47] whatever it is now triple it

[3:50:48] and they'll be saying how hard

[3:50:49] you closed down the bathrooms

[3:50:54] and they probably owe you $1

[3:50:54] million a year for like ten

[3:50:55] years they've been playing.

[3:50:55] Yeah.

[3:50:59] You know these guys are not pay

[3:51:00] top dollar played golf They're

[3:51:06] not ignorant They know they

[3:51:06] don't want it They don't want

[3:51:07] to rock the boat man But it

[3:51:11] could be the golf gods or

[3:51:12] the golf gods are intervening

[3:51:12] on all these low budget things

[3:51:18] You have.

[3:51:18] I believe in GOD and I also

[3:51:19] believe in the golf gods.

[3:51:20] He might be protecting

[3:51:23] the golfers because you guys

[3:51:24] are so naive.

[3:51:25] This is like huge money you

[3:51:30] walking away from four years,

[3:51:31] two years, six years You don't

[3:51:31] know how to do it.

[3:51:36] I don't know what it's worth.

[3:51:36] That's just that's just it's

[3:51:42] either stupid or it's naive And

[3:51:43] I know when you guys shut down

[3:51:43] the bathrooms I know the guys

[3:51:44] that clean the bathrooms

[3:51:48] they're in Mission Beach and

[3:51:49] they didn't get fired.

[3:51:49] They just didn't have to clean

[3:51:55] so many bathrooms.

[3:51:55] So you're saving $500,000 a

[3:51:56] year doing that you don't have

[3:51:59] It's all just toilet paper and

[3:52:00] cleaning up from the homeless

[3:52:04] guys That's concluded Next is

[3:52:04] Barbara Gordon if you can

[3:52:10] please I'm you Barbara Gordon

[3:52:11] Academy Before you I will have

[3:52:12] to go on to the next caller If

[3:52:16] you can't fix your technical

[3:52:16] difficulties.

[3:52:26] Barbara Gordon 7499 if you can

[3:52:32] please a new Bob because this

[3:52:33] year I agree with the earlier

[3:52:38] caller that many leases lessees

[3:52:39] are likely underreporting their

[3:52:39] income.

[3:52:40] As I mentioned many many times

[3:52:44] a great portion of the city's

[3:52:45] wealth is in the extensive real

[3:52:46] estate holdings by the city of

[3:52:46] San Diego.

[3:52:50] Yet the real estate assets

[3:52:51] department or whatever you call

[3:52:51] them now has done an abysmal

[3:52:56] job of managing those assets

[3:52:56] for the public.

[3:52:57] Our public land should be

[3:52:58] operated for the benefit of

[3:52:58] the public.

[3:53:01] Yet this city leases those

[3:53:02] lands to private businesses and

[3:53:03] organizations without any

[3:53:07] meaningful accountability

[3:53:08] reporting or oversight.

[3:53:08] Is it any surprise that

[3:53:09] business is leasing our public

[3:53:13] lands and take advantage of

[3:53:14] the city's incompetent

[3:53:14] oversight?

[3:53:18] How many times since 2007, 20

[3:53:18] years ago have you heard me

[3:53:19] asking for better oversight of

[3:53:23] our public lands such as

[3:53:24] the Torrey Pines Glider for how

[3:53:24] many times?

[3:53:30] Joe LaCava I see the remainder

[3:53:31] of my two minutes for Joe

[3:53:31] LaCava to formulate an answer

[3:53:32] for us Otherwise please

[3:53:33] consider the ensuing silence as

[3:53:34] a rhetorical portion of my

[3:53:35] speech.

[3:54:33] Thank you

[3:54:34] .

[3:54:41] >> Next week goes where Beekman

[3:54:42] the five minute timer did

[3:54:42] conclude there are three

[3:54:43] speakers in the queue and

[3:54:44] additional speakers will be

[3:54:47] taken.

[3:54:47] >> Blair Beekman Hi Blair

[3:54:48] Beekman.

[3:54:48] Thank you that you fixed

[3:54:51] the zoom issue with this item

[3:54:51] to ask.

[3:54:52] It's my understanding with

[3:54:57] the new California state rules

[3:54:57] about Zoom use that came in

[3:54:58] JULY 1st doesn't didn't they

[3:55:02] say that you have to allow for

[3:55:03] one hour to work on Zoom issues

[3:55:04] if there are problems and after

[3:55:05] one hour then you can call

[3:55:09] the meeting or go on as without

[3:55:10] the zoom.

[3:55:10] I think that's the official

[3:55:15] rulebook that you guys better

[3:55:15] review if this happens again.

[3:55:16] Thank you.

[3:55:16] You fixed it though.

[3:55:21] Thank you greatly And my my

[3:55:21] simple ask at this time with

[3:55:28] this item I really hope that

[3:55:29] goldfish who's San Saturday had

[3:55:29] this sort of issue previously

[3:55:33] when I was living there.

[3:55:33] I hope that you can be resolved

[3:55:34] that can serve that there can

[3:55:39] be a way to make money off golf

[3:55:39] courses yet still want to

[3:55:40] promote golfing for everyone.

[3:55:41] And is there a way that for

[3:55:45] instance a race can be for

[3:55:45] people of lower income that

[3:55:50] they can get discounted rates

[3:55:51] compared to people who can

[3:55:56] afford to pay a bit more and

[3:55:57] that's one option to help.

[3:55:58] I think the option of golf

[3:56:02] being available shouldn't be

[3:56:03] none of it not available to

[3:56:03] lower income people.

[3:56:04] i think it can be a it's a

[3:56:09] really meditative sport if you

[3:56:10] think about it and it can be a

[3:56:11] really good form of exercise

[3:56:14] and thought it should be

[3:56:15] available to to all levels of

[3:56:15] income.

[3:56:21] Good luck how to do that And I

[3:56:22] still think there can be ways

[3:56:22] that money can be made for

[3:56:23] the city from the golf course.

[3:56:24] Good luck on working on that

[3:56:25] and figuring that out with that

[3:56:33] can be I, I guess with that

[3:56:33] thank you for your time.

[3:56:34] >> Natalie rush to complete on

[3:56:35] you and then back you up as our

[3:56:42] final speaker.

[3:56:43] I was a little lost because I

[3:56:43] think that my daughter got my

[3:56:48] stuff and so I'm not quite sure

[3:56:49] I lost my train of thought on

[3:56:50] the subject On item 331

[3:56:56] the performance audit.

[3:56:57] Sorry I lost my train of

[3:56:57] thought.

[3:56:58] I'm multitasking and all these

[3:57:02] golf courses I'm I'm just

[3:57:03] confused on a lot of things

[3:57:07] that we do as business and

[3:57:08] where the money goes and what

[3:57:14] we're doing and revenue Is it

[3:57:15] revenue or is it getting put

[3:57:19] back for the public?

[3:57:20] I mean just the word language

[3:57:26] revenue for whom It's a lot.

[3:57:26] It's a lot what we're dealing

[3:57:32] with listening to these kids

[3:57:33] I'm sorry what they come and

[3:57:39] get there Oh my gosh I'm got

[3:57:43] their slideshow and audits and

[3:57:44] we have people that are staff I

[3:57:45] mean on the golf course this

[3:57:50] revenue feeding people or

[3:57:51] housing people or helping with

[3:57:51] mental disabilities I mean it's

[3:57:56] just all crazy to me.

[3:57:57] I'll leave the rest for my

[3:57:57] public not to comment.

[3:58:01] Thank you Becky.

[3:58:02] You wrap if you can please

[3:58:07] unmute.

[3:58:08] >> Yes, good afternoon.

[3:58:09] My name is Becky Rapp and I

[3:58:09] appreciate this audit report.

[3:58:13] It is as it is crucial that

[3:58:14] places are held accountable and

[3:58:23] that they are operating above

[3:58:23] the line.

[3:58:24] We need to consider

[3:58:30] the priorities of our city as

[3:58:30] we are in this budget deficit

[3:58:35] holding leases accountable

[3:58:35] should be of the utmost

[3:58:36] priority In my community we are

[3:58:42] facing our community rec center

[3:58:42] and pool closing at the end of

[3:58:43] this month for four months not

[3:58:47] just cutting hours but

[3:58:48] completely closing down for

[3:58:49] four months Yet we have pot

[3:58:53] shops and tobacco stores that

[3:58:54] we have still yet to not been

[3:58:59] able to have a detailed audit

[3:59:00] telling us if they're even

[3:59:00] paying their taxes.

[3:59:01] These are things that need to

[3:59:06] be considered and they need to

[3:59:07] be made a priority as basic

[3:59:11] necessities of our city Are are

[3:59:12] are suffering and put being put

[3:59:12] last.

[3:59:13] Thank you.

[3:59:18] Thank you.

[3:59:19] And then Judy Strang, if you

[3:59:30] can please unmute Judy Strain

[3:59:36] Oh Oh thank you.

[3:59:37] A mute button just barely came

[3:59:37] up.

[3:59:38] Thank you for working out

[3:59:41] the tech problems.

[3:59:42] That's always a little

[3:59:43] frustrating at our end As

[3:59:47] watchers I can only guess that

[3:59:47] I'm quite well acquainted with

[3:59:48] the Fairbanks Golf course and

[3:59:53] yes how it was described to you

[3:59:54] as being a losing proposition

[4:00:00] for the city is so true.

[4:00:01] That's that's the first place

[4:00:01] to start and I'm reluctant to

[4:00:05] say it out loud since I know

[4:00:06] people who play there and I

[4:00:07] feel a little bit traitorous.

[4:00:07] But yeah, the city got

[4:00:11] the wrong end of that stick

[4:00:12] when I really called in about

[4:00:13] was my concern for

[4:00:17] the mitigation opportunity for

[4:00:18] students.

[4:00:18] We have several grandsons who

[4:00:19] are in high school and like to

[4:00:24] play in our golf courses and

[4:00:24] some of the golf courses have

[4:00:25] allowed for that.

[4:00:29] Others haven't And it would be

[4:00:30] nice if the policy was

[4:00:31] consistent across all of

[4:00:35] the golf courses.

[4:00:36] But certainly something has to

[4:00:36] be built here and we have high

[4:00:41] school golf now It has just

[4:00:42] grown in popularity and some of

[4:00:46] our local colleges not

[4:00:47] the least of which is San Diego

[4:00:53] State has a well-respected golf

[4:00:54] team.

[4:00:54] So you're going to see more and

[4:00:55] more high school students

[4:00:56] coming through that will want

[4:01:00] access to our public courses.

[4:01:01] >> Thank you.

[4:01:01] Thank you.

[4:01:02] That does conclude from a

[4:01:02] comment on the title.

[4:01:03] All right.

[4:01:07] Thank you, city Clerk and thank

[4:01:07] you for you and the team idea

[4:01:08] and city 24 and anybody else

[4:01:12] who weighed into the result

[4:01:12] those problems And again as a

[4:01:13] reminder when we were offline

[4:01:14] we were not conducting any

[4:01:18] business here in chambers.

[4:01:19] So with that I'll turn it over

[4:01:19] to my council colleagues for

[4:01:20] questions Comments This is an

[4:01:24] information item No motion is

[4:01:25] required and we'll start with

[4:01:25] the chair of the audit

[4:01:29] committee council member Marino

[4:01:29] Thank you and thank you for

[4:01:30] the presentation And I want to

[4:01:31] once again thank the City

[4:01:36] auditor and the whole team for

[4:01:37] the work that they're putting

[4:01:37] that they put into this report

[4:01:42] and others as well stated

[4:01:42] the city owns a golf courses

[4:01:46] which totals about 868 acres of

[4:01:47] land that are leased to private

[4:01:53] and nonprofit operators In

[4:01:53] fiscal year 24.

[4:01:57] These leased golf courses

[4:01:58] generated $34 million in

[4:01:58] revenue for course operators

[4:02:03] while the city only received

[4:02:03] $3.7 million of rents.

[4:02:04] The revenue from leased golf

[4:02:09] courses support essential

[4:02:09] general fund services like

[4:02:10] parks, libraries and also our

[4:02:14] streets.

[4:02:15] The leased golf courses also

[4:02:16] support the water fund which

[4:02:20] helps offset repairs water

[4:02:21] bills.

[4:02:21] We first discussed this item at

[4:02:22] our OCTOBER Audit Committee

[4:02:26] meeting and I do appreciate

[4:02:27] the follow up and the work

[4:02:27] that's gone into identifying

[4:02:32] identifying an opportunity to

[4:02:32] increase the rent that

[4:02:33] Fairbanks ranch pays to

[4:02:37] the city And I especially want

[4:02:38] to thank the city auditor's

[4:02:39] office for bringing this to

[4:02:39] the attention of city staff.

[4:02:43] This is exactly the kind of

[4:02:44] oversight that can help

[4:02:45] the city make sure that it's

[4:02:49] getting the best possible

[4:02:50] return from public assets that

[4:02:51] cannot be used by residents

[4:02:56] unless they pay a hefty fee.

[4:02:57] If a resident wanted to use

[4:02:57] the golf course in Fairbanks

[4:03:02] Ranch, it would cost them about

[4:03:03] $25,000 for admission for an

[4:03:07] initiation fee and monthly dues

[4:03:12] of about 1270 In fiscal year

[4:03:13] 2025 Fairbanks Ranch Country

[4:03:13] Club reported 16.7 million in

[4:03:18] lease revenues while the city

[4:03:19] received only $863,000 in

[4:03:23] calendar year 24.

[4:03:23] At a time when the city is

[4:03:24] making very difficult decisions

[4:03:29] about budget about its budget,

[4:03:30] it must consider whether these

[4:03:30] lessees are getting a fair

[4:03:35] return.

[4:03:35] Around 25% of the city's leases

[4:03:40] are in holdovers meaning we're

[4:03:41] leaving potential revenue on

[4:03:41] the table that could help fund

[4:03:42] critical services that are

[4:03:46] residents rely on like arts and

[4:03:47] culture, libraries and parks.

[4:03:51] One of the lessees that

[4:03:52] generated the most for the city

[4:03:57] is mission Trails who is leased

[4:03:57] by the American golf course.

[4:03:58] The American golf generated

[4:04:03] about approximately 4.9 million

[4:04:07] in lessee revenues in fiscal

[4:04:08] year 2025 and the lessee paid

[4:04:12] the city approximately 1.1

[4:04:12] million in fiscal year 24.

[4:04:17] American golf has golf courses

[4:04:17] in California, Florida, New

[4:04:22] Mexico, New York and Texas and

[4:04:22] has over 50 years of experience

[4:04:23] handling golf course golf

[4:04:23] courses.

[4:04:27] And yet during the city

[4:04:28] auditor's review of the golf

[4:04:29] course leases, mission trails

[4:04:33] had been in hold for over four

[4:04:34] years.

[4:04:35] We have a responsibility to be

[4:04:38] good stewards of taxpayer

[4:04:39] resources and the entities that

[4:04:40] lease from the city.

[4:04:44] I think the crux of the issue

[4:04:45] is that ultimately this is an

[4:04:45] example of how the city's

[4:04:50] standard for residents and

[4:04:51] multi million dollar

[4:04:51] institutions are starkly

[4:04:55] different.

[4:04:56] If there's an opportunity to

[4:04:56] generate additional revenue

[4:04:57] without raising taxes and

[4:05:01] without cutting services that

[4:05:02] our community rely on, we

[4:05:03] should take the opportunity

[4:05:03] seriously.

[4:05:07] The city should not be waiting

[4:05:08] up to the last minute to act on

[4:05:13] reappraisal and adjustments of

[4:05:13] rent.

[4:05:14] With enough time the city can

[4:05:18] do proper appraisals, let

[4:05:19] leaseholders know of their

[4:05:19] rents being adjusted and start

[4:05:23] the new lease as soon as

[4:05:24] possible basically ensuring our

[4:05:25] residents receive their fair

[4:05:28] share from these multimillion

[4:05:29] dollar institutions.

[4:05:33] Once again I think the city

[4:05:34] auditor enough and in

[4:05:34] particularly for letting

[4:05:35] the Economic Development

[4:05:39] Department know of

[4:05:40] the opportunity to raise rent

[4:05:40] to Fairbanks Ranch And I also

[4:05:44] want to I do want to thank

[4:05:45] economic development staff for

[4:05:45] reacting to this opportunity

[4:05:49] and making this a top priority

[4:05:50] given the importance of this

[4:05:50] opportunity and the city's

[4:05:54] effort to make it a top

[4:05:54] priority.

[4:05:55] I do believe it's appropriate

[4:05:56] to provide the public with an

[4:06:00] update on the status of these

[4:06:00] negotiations.

[4:06:01] So city staff, can you please

[4:06:04] provide an update to the public

[4:06:05] on how negotiations have gone

[4:06:14] with Fairbanks Ranch thing?

[4:06:15] >> Thank you for the question.

[4:06:16] Councilmember Kristina Butler,

[4:06:17] Director of Economic

[4:06:20] Development.

[4:06:21] We had sent our letter of

[4:06:25] readjustment on time in

[4:06:26] economic development to

[4:06:26] Fairbanks Ranch.

[4:06:30] Within that time frame we were

[4:06:30] able to conduct the appraisal

[4:06:35] on time and received roughly a

[4:06:35] 41% increase in the overall

[4:06:36] rent.

[4:06:40] It was received well and all

[4:06:41] backed by data.

[4:06:42] So that has concluded and is

[4:06:42] effective this current fiscal

[4:06:46] year and went into effect on

[4:06:46] time on JULY 18th or JULY 18th.

[4:06:47] Wonderful.

[4:06:51] And so does that mean that

[4:06:52] Fairbanks ranch is paying

[4:06:52] market rate?

[4:06:53] They are paying market rate.

[4:06:56] Wonderful.

[4:06:56] Thank you.

[4:06:57] I'd like to request that

[4:06:57] the rba review their appraisal

[4:07:01] and also let the council know

[4:07:01] if they have any concerns about

[4:07:05] this too.

[4:07:06] A high stake here.

[4:07:07] I mean I've only driven by

[4:07:10] Fairbanks ranch and I could say

[4:07:11] that you can't even go in

[4:07:11] there.

[4:07:15] And unless you have authority

[4:07:20] by the security so I'd like to

[4:07:21] know whether this is a fair

[4:07:25] market or whether they're

[4:07:26] paying a fair market rate.

[4:07:27] Is this something that could be

[4:07:30] accommodated?

[4:07:31] >> I'm happy to discuss that

[4:07:31] with your office and our real

[4:07:35] estate consultant and get back

[4:07:35] to council member.

[4:07:36] >> Thank you so much Once again

[4:07:39] to the auditor.

[4:07:40] Thank you for everything

[4:07:41] Everybody in the office Thank

[4:07:44] you guys for all that you do

[4:07:45] for the citizens of San Diego.

[4:07:48] Do you have any comments that

[4:07:49] you want to add regarding this

[4:07:54] audit?

[4:07:54] >> You're asking me, correct?

[4:07:55] Yes.

[4:07:59] No, I think we covered it in

[4:07:59] the presentation.

[4:08:00] I do agree.

[4:08:03] I think it would be good for

[4:08:04] the aba to look into this.

[4:08:07] You know that's good that they

[4:08:08] were able to negotiate an

[4:08:09] increase but it is still far

[4:08:12] below the rate that other

[4:08:13] courses are paying that make

[4:08:14] far less money and are far less

[4:08:17] profitable.

[4:08:18] So I'm not saying anything is

[4:08:18] necessarily wrong but I think

[4:08:22] it's we should make sure that

[4:08:22] we are getting the best

[4:08:23] possible deal.

[4:08:26] I'm sorry I might have missed

[4:08:27] that part of the presentation.

[4:08:31] Do you mind taking us back to

[4:08:31] that part of the presentation

[4:08:35] where you show other rates that

[4:08:36] other golf courses are paying

[4:08:36] just so that we could?

[4:08:39] I still have two minutes on

[4:08:44] the lights so we're controlling

[4:08:45] it from over here.

[4:08:46] >> You can just tell us which

[4:08:52] slide it is so you could get

[4:08:52] slide six.

[4:08:58] I can I can step ma'am if you

[4:08:58] please.

[4:08:59] I can I can step through what's

[4:08:59] on that slide and know it's

[4:09:02] small and kind of hard to read

[4:09:03] .

[4:09:03] But these if you look down

[4:09:04] the left side there that is

[4:09:04] the list of lessees.

[4:09:07] So the least the courses that

[4:09:08] the city owns and leases out if

[4:09:12] you just skip over to the far

[4:09:12] right that's the percentage

[4:09:13] lease that was paid to the city

[4:09:16] at the time of the audit.

[4:09:17] So you can see it runs

[4:09:19] the gamut there clean up park

[4:09:20] at 1% but that that's a

[4:09:24] different kind of arrangement

[4:09:25] as a as a nonprofit.

[4:09:26] So if you just focusing on

[4:09:29] the couple that you referenced

[4:09:30] if you look at Fairbanks ranch

[4:09:30] they pay 5% That's average

[4:09:34] across all categories.

[4:09:35] By comparison, Mission Trails

[4:09:35] is at 22%.

[4:09:39] Technology at 25%.

[4:09:40] Again, this is at the time of

[4:09:40] the audit.

[4:09:44] So that kind of gives you an

[4:09:49] idea of gamut.

[4:09:49] Does that answer your question,

[4:09:50] ma'am?

[4:09:53] That makes me very angry.

[4:09:54] But yes, it does answer my make

[4:09:58] you angry but okay.

[4:09:59] Okay.

[4:09:59] Well thank you once again to

[4:10:00] everybody.

[4:10:03] I think we all have our work

[4:10:04] cut out for us And once again

[4:10:05] thank you to the auditor for

[4:10:08] bringing this to light and

[4:10:11] hopefully generating 40% more

[4:10:12] from Fairbanks Ranch.

[4:10:12] All right.

[4:10:16] Thank you, Councilmember Moreno

[4:10:17] .

[4:10:17] >> We'll go next to council

[4:10:18] member Isla Rivera.

[4:10:18] Thank you.

[4:10:22] Council PRESIDENT Thank you to

[4:10:23] you and your team for for this

[4:10:26] report.

[4:10:26] Thanks to Chair Moreno for her

[4:10:27] work on the audit committee.

[4:10:31] I'm I share the anger and I'm

[4:10:31] glad we're having this

[4:10:35] conversation.

[4:10:41] The new agreement with

[4:10:42] Fairbanks Ranch we are

[4:10:42] expecting 1.1 to 1.2 million

[4:10:43] per year.

[4:10:47] >> Is that correct?

[4:10:48] >> Correct.

[4:10:52] Councilmember It's over 1.2

[4:10:52] million.

[4:10:54] It's an increase of 375,000

[4:10:59] annually And why does it why is

[4:11:04] the negotiated rate less than

[4:11:04] other courses?

[4:11:05] >> Thank you for

[4:11:06] the opportunity to answer that

[4:11:06] question.

[4:11:09] So what This is a reevaluation

[4:11:12] based on a period in time at

[4:11:13] actual obligation so it is not

[4:11:14] a full renegotiation in

[4:11:18] the same way of the rfp

[4:11:19] negotiations that we're

[4:11:19] currently in With the others it

[4:11:23] has a very strict parameter as

[4:11:24] to what we can evaluate and

[4:11:27] then bring it to market.

[4:11:28] So it is starting from a

[4:11:32] baseline that originated when

[4:11:33] the lease was initiated and

[4:11:36] then re-upped in 2016 for

[4:11:40] the frequency.

[4:11:45] That answer your question Yes.

[4:11:50] >> Well kind of So your your

[4:11:55] position is is that this is

[4:11:55] the best the city could do

[4:11:56] based on the contract that

[4:11:58] the city has with Fairbanks

[4:12:02] Ranch.

[4:12:03] I think that's a broad

[4:12:03] characterization.

[4:12:07] What we negotiated is not only

[4:12:12] market but in some cases a 50%

[4:12:12] increase.

[4:12:13] Only two of the categories that

[4:12:17] we were allowed to reevaluate

[4:12:18] maintained at the rate they

[4:12:22] were at the rest of them

[4:12:23] increased significantly for an

[4:12:26] overall increase of rent of 41%

[4:12:27] And all of that is backed by

[4:12:34] market data and that that's

[4:12:38] tied to benchmarking with other

[4:12:39] properties that Right

[4:12:43] benchmarking with other

[4:12:43] categories related to

[4:12:44] concessions and what those

[4:12:48] categories are that are defined

[4:12:49] in that lease.

[4:12:49] Correct.

[4:12:50] I'm sorry, could we ask you to

[4:12:51] go to the Taller Mike are

[4:12:53] having difficulties hearing you

[4:12:54] in the zoom?

[4:12:54] Thank you.

[4:12:58] Sure.

[4:13:07] Okay.

[4:13:08] Andy, your contention is that

[4:13:12] there's still more that or at a

[4:13:17] minimum we should be asking why

[4:13:18] continue to ask why

[4:13:22] the difference in in rates and

[4:13:26] why Fairbanks is playing

[4:13:27] comparable amounts or sometimes

[4:13:32] less than far less profitable

[4:13:32] course is correct.

[4:13:33] >> We I don't know why You know

[4:13:37] I think it is surprising that

[4:13:40] the rate would have come out to

[4:13:41] only 7%.

[4:13:44] What other courses are paying

[4:13:44] 20 to 25%.

[4:13:45] But as MS..

[4:13:45] Miller pointed out, they have

[4:13:49] possibly some limitations from

[4:13:49] the agreement.

[4:13:52] The amendment that was made in

[4:13:53] 2016 that lowered basically

[4:13:57] lowered the rates at that time

[4:14:01] And then there's parameters on

[4:14:02] how that can be reassessed if

[4:14:07] comps can be found which I

[4:14:07] don't think good comps could be

[4:14:08] found for the membership

[4:14:11] categories specifically which

[4:14:12] is pretty important because

[4:14:15] that's 80% of the country

[4:14:16] club's revenue.

[4:14:20] How can I think I'm confused

[4:14:20] why there wouldn't be able to

[4:14:21] be comps found.

[4:14:25] There's other country clubs and

[4:14:26] I forgive me I think that's

[4:14:30] somewhat speculation.

[4:14:31] We do have comparable ranges

[4:14:35] And so in the membership alone

[4:14:43] and an appraised range is

[4:14:43] between 5 and 10% of similar

[4:14:48] like comparing things And so

[4:14:51] our negotiated rate there is

[4:14:52] six based on how much we could

[4:14:58] fluctuate within that threshold

[4:14:59] .

[4:14:59] >> Okay.

[4:15:04] Thanks for saying that thinking

[4:15:05] and I'm looking at a photo of

[4:15:08] Haring's country club and it's

[4:15:08] beautiful.

[4:15:14] It's yeah it's just stunning

[4:15:18] and I'm This is city property

[4:15:18] right?

[4:15:23] Okay.

[4:15:27] And country club members there

[4:15:27] pay $25,000 a year to use that

[4:15:34] course to enjoy that And we

[4:15:39] pull up photos of some

[4:15:40] restrooms at a park in Mount

[4:15:44] Hope in my district And this is

[4:15:49] what was there And now there's

[4:15:50] porta potties and we had a

[4:15:54] fight until the last second of

[4:15:54] this budget savings previous

[4:15:56] budget cycle to get funding for

[4:16:02] a new restroom to be built.

[4:16:02] And so the anger that

[4:16:05] Councilmember Moreno shared I

[4:16:11] feel the same exact way We just

[4:16:16] approve the transfer

[4:16:16] opportunity funds to rec

[4:16:17] centers in districts four,

[4:16:18] eight and nine that are

[4:16:21] scraping by on budgets of less

[4:16:21] than $100,000 After we did

[4:16:25] considerable work after

[4:16:26] the Council had to fight to

[4:16:31] have a nother for profit very,

[4:16:31] very very profitable entity in

[4:16:35] the same part of of the county

[4:16:39] pay more of their fair share

[4:16:44] for the use of city property

[4:16:45] And I, I want to understand

[4:16:49] what is the mayor's philosophy

[4:16:49] on maximizing revenue from city

[4:16:50] property so that it can be

[4:16:54] utilized for the good of San

[4:16:55] Diegans specifically as it

[4:16:59] relates to Parks and Rec

[4:17:00] Councilmember I think it's in

[4:17:04] line with the council's

[4:17:04] philosophy.

[4:17:05] I don't I don't know that it is

[4:17:05] Councilmember.

[4:17:08] I also think that if

[4:17:09] the conversations that

[4:17:09] initiated this deal decades ago

[4:17:13] took place today, the structure

[4:17:14] would be very different And I

[4:17:14] think through the work that

[4:17:15] we've done together through

[4:17:19] budget and new parks and new

[4:17:19] projects that we capitalize as

[4:17:23] much as we can.

[4:17:24] And I think the deal points

[4:17:25] that Christina just mentioned

[4:17:28] earlier head in that direction

[4:17:29] of working within the confines

[4:17:30] of the existing contract to try

[4:17:33] to maximize as much as we can.

[4:17:34] And so I get where you're

[4:17:35] saying this is it's an

[4:17:38] egregious example, right?

[4:17:39] It really is in those pictures

[4:17:42] I think you know, really do say

[4:17:43] a thousand words But I do think

[4:17:43] that if those conversations

[4:17:44] took place today, the situation

[4:17:47] would be much different.

[4:17:48] And I hope that the work that

[4:17:49] eda has done to maximize as

[4:17:52] much as we can at the intervals

[4:17:53] that we're allowed to do so

[4:17:56] indicates that I appreciate

[4:17:57] that response but I don't I

[4:17:58] don't know that we're aligned

[4:18:01] because consistently

[4:18:02] the council is the one that has

[4:18:03] to come in in the back end and

[4:18:09] and fight for more and and I

[4:18:10] have not seen that has been

[4:18:14] given direction from

[4:18:14] the mayor's office to go after

[4:18:19] the wealthiest most profitable

[4:18:24] users of city property the ones

[4:18:24] that are in holdover and

[4:18:28] the ones that got sweetheart

[4:18:29] deals decades ago and continue

[4:18:33] to profit from those.

[4:18:34] At what point is the mayor's

[4:18:38] office say enough is enough and

[4:18:38] everyone who's in hold over

[4:18:39] who's making the most money get

[4:18:43] in line because it's your turn

[4:18:44] to finally pay your fair share

[4:18:47] Because I don't think that

[4:18:48] direction has been given to d I

[4:18:52] think that direction has been

[4:18:53] given to E.D. You know we've

[4:18:54] had a conversation I think

[4:18:57] sometime last year about

[4:18:58] the prioritization of holdover

[4:18:59] leases 900 leases citywide and

[4:19:01] a real estate team of what 1214

[4:19:02] agents.

[4:19:02] And so the direction has been

[4:19:06] given to them and I think

[4:19:07] through explicitly focus on

[4:19:07] the most profitable entities

[4:19:11] those who are have the best

[4:19:12] deals from the city, those

[4:19:13] who've made the most money on

[4:19:13] city property for the longest

[4:19:16] period of time.

[4:19:16] Yeah Councilmember thank you

[4:19:20] for your question Specifically

[4:19:21] that No but what we have been

[4:19:22] targeted with doing is driving

[4:19:25] as much revenue and profit as

[4:19:26] we possibly can with the leases

[4:19:27] that become available to us at

[4:19:27] that time.

[4:19:31] So we are to Christina and

[4:19:32] the teams benefit We've

[4:19:35] retooled it to focus on those

[4:19:36] leases to focus on revenue not

[4:19:36] just for the general fund side

[4:19:37] but also for rate payers on

[4:19:47] the port side there was a

[4:19:48] question asked and I actually

[4:19:48] think it's a fair one for San

[4:19:51] Diegans to ask because of

[4:19:52] the frustrations that everyone

[4:19:56] is feeling on a regular basis.

[4:19:57] Pools are closed, libraries are

[4:20:01] closed, rec centers are hours

[4:20:05] are reduced, restrooms closed

[4:20:06] And we just saw reporting that

[4:20:09] Balboa Park has between 500

[4:20:10] million and $1 billion in

[4:20:14] deferred maintenance and their

[4:20:15] country club continues to look

[4:20:15] the way it does.

[4:20:16] The profits there continue to

[4:20:23] pile up And so how much are we

[4:20:24] willing to subsidize golf

[4:20:26] rounds for country club members

[4:20:27] And is it the mayor's position

[4:20:28] the profits of country clubs

[4:20:32] like Fairbanks Ranch are more

[4:20:32] important than the services and

[4:20:37] resources that are provided by

[4:20:37] the city's parks, parks and rec

[4:20:38] centers.

[4:20:38] I think these are fair

[4:20:42] questions for residents to ask

[4:20:42] and as much as I know that we

[4:20:46] need to increase revenue across

[4:20:47] the city, I also understand why

[4:20:51] it would make residents blood

[4:20:52] boil to know that rich people's

[4:20:52] golf rounds are being

[4:20:57] subsidized raised at a $25,000

[4:21:02] per year country club while

[4:21:02] their rec centers hours are

[4:21:03] being slashed and they're being

[4:21:06] asked to pay more.

[4:21:07] And if we're actually going to

[4:21:11] get this ship turned in

[4:21:12] the right direction and get

[4:21:12] residents to believe that this

[4:21:16] is a city worth investing in

[4:21:16] their needs, they're going to

[4:21:17] need to see the executive of

[4:21:20] this city fight for its

[4:21:21] residents and actually take on

[4:21:21] the people who are making

[4:21:25] the most money and enjoying

[4:21:25] the benefits of this city

[4:21:26] the most.

[4:21:30] Well, everyone else struggles

[4:21:31] to know whether or not they're

[4:21:34] going to pay next month's rent

[4:21:35] And I can appreciate

[4:21:39] the efforts of the employees of

[4:21:40] Ed and the work that this bill

[4:21:44] does And I do not think by any

[4:21:45] stretch of the imagination that

[4:21:49] this administration has put

[4:21:49] the most profitable entities in

[4:21:53] San Diego on notice that it is

[4:21:54] about time that they pay their

[4:21:58] fair share and that if they

[4:21:59] don't the city will find new

[4:22:03] partners or run these things

[4:22:03] ourselves so that San Diegans

[4:22:08] can actually enjoy the benefits

[4:22:08] of being one of the most

[4:22:09] beautiful places in the world

[4:22:12] that people from around

[4:22:13] the world want to come to And

[4:22:14] wealthy people are willing to

[4:22:17] pay significant amounts of

[4:22:22] money to visit to recreate.

[4:22:22] And right now the only people

[4:22:27] who are benefiting from that

[4:22:28] are other rich people who are

[4:22:28] piling up millions and millions

[4:22:32] in profit.

[4:22:32] So Andy, thank you again for

[4:22:37] the work you did on this.

[4:22:37] Thank you To the audit

[4:22:38] committee as always counts From

[4:22:41] what I know I, I can appreciate

[4:22:42] that there will be more money

[4:22:46] coming in as a result of this

[4:22:46] audit and the work that was

[4:22:47] done after that and at the same

[4:22:50] time be extremely frustrated

[4:22:55] that it takes audit reports, it

[4:22:56] takes conversations like this

[4:22:57] to actually kick things into

[4:23:00] gear and far more often than

[4:23:01] not the council is the ones are

[4:23:01] the ones who are left coming in

[4:23:08] at the back end to squeeze more

[4:23:08] out of these profitable

[4:23:13] entities to make sure that

[4:23:14] the city is actually not

[4:23:15] getting screwed in these deals.

[4:23:15] Thank you.

[4:23:17] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:23:18] All right.

[4:23:19] Thank you, Council member Eli

[4:23:19] Rivera.

[4:23:23] We'll go next to council member

[4:23:23] Von Wilbert.

[4:23:27] Thank you for the audit in

[4:23:28] the work and thank you to your

[4:23:28] team and for the briefing on

[4:23:31] this ahead of time.

[4:23:32] i mean I had very similar

[4:23:36] questions to my colleagues

[4:23:37] about why Fairbanks Ranch

[4:23:41] Country Club isn't paying 25%

[4:23:45] or to be another 2 million or

[4:23:45] so dollars a year.

[4:23:46] It'd be put them out around $44

[4:23:49] million because technology

[4:23:50] Canyon is paying 25%, Mission

[4:23:51] trails are paying 22%.

[4:23:54] Even Hodges is paying 2020 15%

[4:23:55] of their lease revenue paid to

[4:23:56] the city And yet Fairbanks

[4:23:59] Ranch Country Club is now

[4:24:00] paying what, seven?

[4:24:04] So why can't they be paying 25?

[4:24:04] They're the most likely to

[4:24:08] afford it and other golf

[4:24:08] courses are.

[4:24:13] So that's my question Did they

[4:24:14] tell you and you answered it

[4:24:17] why they were different?

[4:24:18] I mean I cannot speak to

[4:24:22] the negotiations if you're

[4:24:23] asking me I know that the this

[4:24:28] is covered in the audit in 2016

[4:24:28] There was an at the lease was

[4:24:32] transferred to a new operator

[4:24:33] and at that time there was a

[4:24:36] lease amendment that lowered

[4:24:37] lowered the rates At that time

[4:24:41] the most important rate is

[4:24:42] the rate for memberships

[4:24:45] because that's 80% of their

[4:24:46] revenue and I think that went

[4:24:49] from 10% to 4% at that time.

[4:24:50] So that's why it's been like

[4:24:51] that for the last ten years.

[4:24:55] But I can't speak to that.

[4:24:55] That's a question for

[4:25:03] the administration as to the 7%

[4:25:03] .

[4:25:03] Okay.

[4:25:04] Did anybody this was just

[4:25:05] worked on wasn't there If I

[4:25:08] could call Christine about to

[4:25:09] talk through the deal point on

[4:25:12] why.

[4:25:12] So thank you for the question.

[4:25:16] 25% is not within market and it

[4:25:21] is a data point that is in

[4:25:21] the report but not what is

[4:25:22] allowable contractually within

[4:25:25] the lease itself.

[4:25:26] Each of the categories is

[4:25:27] broken out and then we have

[4:25:30] the determination to find

[4:25:31] within the category what is

[4:25:32] market, what is the range of

[4:25:35] market within that And we can

[4:25:36] negotiate within that range.

[4:25:40] So it's not a broad assessment

[4:25:40] of a number.

[4:25:44] It frankly has to be tied to

[4:25:45] market.

[4:25:46] So we started a lower number as

[4:25:50] I was explaining to

[4:25:51] Councilmember Ila Rivera and

[4:25:53] then that number has increased

[4:25:54] by 50%.

[4:25:54] That is now justifiable within

[4:25:55] the range from the starting

[4:25:59] point we were given back in

[4:25:59] 2016.

[4:26:03] When does what is the 2016

[4:26:07] lease end The lease started

[4:26:08] back in the 80s with a 70 year

[4:26:09] lease and it will be

[4:26:12] reevaluated every ten years.

[4:26:13] That's per the Civil code 718

[4:26:17] And so the next revaluation

[4:26:18] will be in 2036 and it will

[4:26:19] determine market from that

[4:26:26] point and it goes until 2050,

[4:26:27] 2056 to then applied in 2016.

[4:26:31] Did you not you know if you

[4:26:32] were here but did the city

[4:26:32] amend it?

[4:26:35] I can't speak to

[4:26:39] the negotiations at the time.

[4:26:40] Okay.

[4:26:41] We are the same path of all

[4:26:44] leases.

[4:26:47] Councilmember Santa School has

[4:26:48] about 18 different leases under

[4:26:49] negotiation Within my office

[4:26:53] we've reassign two property

[4:26:54] agents to help with that.

[4:26:58] Um, it would be great to have

[4:26:59] San Pasquale leaseholders be

[4:27:03] more communicative and that

[4:27:03] would be my ask if we could

[4:27:04] partner on that.

[4:27:07] We'd like to get some across

[4:27:08] the finish line before the end

[4:27:08] of the calendar year.

[4:27:08] Got it.

[4:27:12] Well I'm on their farms a lot

[4:27:13] and communication from them

[4:27:16] doesn't seem to be the problem

[4:27:17] so I'm happy to talk about

[4:27:17] later.

[4:27:18] I bring this up because it

[4:27:21] seems like our real estate at

[4:27:26] his department is just it's not

[4:27:26] functioning well and this is

[4:27:31] not new And the golf leases are

[4:27:32] one example.

[4:27:33] This is before Christina became

[4:27:38] the head of this And I know

[4:27:39] there's a lot of political

[4:27:40] leadership that's been a

[4:27:44] problem But the city bought one

[4:27:44] on one ash skyscraper across

[4:27:45] the street.

[4:27:48] It's still empty and real

[4:27:49] estate assets at the time and

[4:27:50] told this council it wasn't us

[4:27:53] but people before us that it

[4:27:53] needed a $10,000 power wash.

[4:27:58] What does that even mean?

[4:27:59] And I know we have leases in

[4:27:59] Balboa Park that are on hold

[4:28:00] over I know we have leases

[4:28:01] admission bay there on hold

[4:28:03] over And so part of the problem

[4:28:06] is that real estate asset only

[4:28:07] has what you said 12 to 14

[4:28:09] leasing agents for 900

[4:28:10] properties.

[4:28:10] That's correct.

[4:28:11] We have 12 property agents for

[4:28:15] our portfolio So we can I'm

[4:28:15] glad that we're doing this

[4:28:15] audit.

[4:28:19] I'm glad we're getting more

[4:28:20] money from the golf courses as

[4:28:23] we should.

[4:28:24] But the fact that someone from

[4:28:25] real estate assets negotiated a

[4:28:29] very poorly drafted provision

[4:28:29] in 2016 with the wealthiest

[4:28:33] golf course operator we have

[4:28:34] and has now locked us into less

[4:28:35] money is just another symptom

[4:28:39] of how this department is not

[4:28:40] functioning well and it's not

[4:28:43] necessarily the fault of the 12

[4:28:43] to 14 agents who were there

[4:28:44] because they're overworked and

[4:28:44] overburdened.

[4:28:48] But Mark Kersey, my

[4:28:48] predecessor, tried for his

[4:28:49] entire eight year term to get

[4:28:52] this Yampa Squaw Valley Farm

[4:28:52] leases done.

[4:28:55] I'm ending the end of my 282

[4:28:56] years or two terms and I'm

[4:28:56] still don't have them done and

[4:29:00] I've been begging for them.

[4:29:01] It's not for lack of trying And

[4:29:04] so my overall question is if

[4:29:05] the real estate assets

[4:29:06] department is a revenue

[4:29:09] generating department because

[4:29:10] obviously this audit just

[4:29:11] brought in I don't know you

[4:29:13] said 41% more so over $1

[4:29:14] million more in lease revenue

[4:29:17] I'm guessing from the Fairbanks

[4:29:23] Ranch property.

[4:29:24] >> No, it was we're paying 800

[4:29:24] something now It's paying 2.1

[4:29:29] 300 75 k per year for that

[4:29:34] particular lease.

[4:29:35] The reassessment for Fairbanks

[4:29:38] Ranch which made almost $17

[4:29:38] million was only 375 k

[4:29:43] additional dollars.

[4:29:43] I believe that's accurate.

[4:29:44] I'll defer to staff for them.

[4:29:45] Okay.

[4:29:50] That's correct.

[4:29:55] I see That's that's the problem

[4:29:55] .

[4:29:56] And so when we're having these

[4:30:00] budget hearings about staffing

[4:30:01] ,I feel like this, you know,

[4:30:05] better equipped property agents

[4:30:05] would pay for not only for

[4:30:06] themselves but could bring in

[4:30:12] even more money over the future

[4:30:12] .

[4:30:13] And Councilmember, I don't

[4:30:13] disagree with you.

[4:30:14] I think you know, there have

[4:30:17] been active discussions about

[4:30:17] how we can solve the staffing

[4:30:18] levels in real estate which

[4:30:22] includes carving off a

[4:30:23] percentage.

[4:30:23] If you look at real estate as a

[4:30:24] private business, you come in

[4:30:26] and say all right, I'm going to

[4:30:27] take 5% of my revenues and I'm

[4:30:28] gonna use it to manage my

[4:30:31] portfolio.

[4:30:32] We've looked at that.

[4:30:32] The problem with looking at

[4:30:33] that and doing that is we're

[4:30:34] taking millions of dollars

[4:30:37] potentially I don't quote me on

[4:30:37] the exact number but we're

[4:30:38] taking money away from

[4:30:39] the general fund that otherwise

[4:30:42] would go to other resources.

[4:30:42] So having this discussion right

[4:30:43] now is good but it's also not a

[4:30:46] good time to have that

[4:30:47] discussion because if we were

[4:30:48] to bring forward a proposal to

[4:30:50] say we're going to take 3 to 5%

[4:30:51] of the entire real estate

[4:30:52] portfolio and allocated towards

[4:30:55] property agents, that means

[4:30:56] less money coming into

[4:30:57] the general fund to pay for

[4:31:00] restrooms and other things.

[4:31:01] So you know, it really is about

[4:31:05] where the priorities are at and

[4:31:06] we've batted around different

[4:31:06] proposals over the years.

[4:31:10] I'm happy to have further

[4:31:10] discussions with you and

[4:31:11] the rest of Council on a

[4:31:12] proposal that would look like

[4:31:15] that.

[4:31:16] But the reality is is it would

[4:31:17] take money away from other

[4:31:20] general fund services.

[4:31:20] It would but the goal is

[4:31:21] the people you bring in would

[4:31:25] generate more money than it

[4:31:25] would take away.

[4:31:26] It's much more money.

[4:31:30] Yeah, I don't I don't disagree

[4:31:30] with you on that.

[4:31:31] >> I don't And that's the long

[4:31:35] term vision I'm seeking from

[4:31:35] the city administration.

[4:31:40] These problems are not new and

[4:31:40] but when we do the budget we

[4:31:41] sit here and we ask if you're

[4:31:42] understaffed and how we can

[4:31:44] help and there's just no real

[4:31:45] plan to put it on the right

[4:31:45] track.

[4:31:52] So basically to have it I am

[4:31:53] but a council member I can't

[4:31:55] force the Health administration

[4:31:56] to change everything I can just

[4:32:00] budget where I can So thank you

[4:32:01] for the audit.

[4:32:02] Hopefully we can do better and

[4:32:06] hopefully we can actually staff

[4:32:07] properly a real estate assets

[4:32:07] department so that we can

[4:32:10] maximize the leases that

[4:32:11] Councilmember Eli Rivera is

[4:32:12] talking about which are some of

[4:32:13] the most beautiful places in

[4:32:15] the world And yet we're not

[4:32:16] able to even maintain them.

[4:32:21] So thank you.

[4:32:22] All right.

[4:32:22] Thank you.

[4:32:23] You have some fun.

[4:32:24] Well, we'll go next to

[4:32:26] Councilmember Campion.

[4:32:27] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.

[4:32:28] Thank you to our city out here

[4:32:28] for good work.

[4:32:31] I just want to ask a basic

[4:32:32] question as well.

[4:32:36] The lessee revenue what do we

[4:32:37] what do we verify that against?

[4:32:38] We look at their entire payroll

[4:32:41] or their excuse me their entire

[4:32:42] set of income.

[4:32:42] Is it different between

[4:32:47] different lessees?

[4:32:48] I just want to make sure that

[4:32:49] we're actually getting

[4:32:49] the amount of money they're

[4:32:52] bringing in and actually

[4:32:53] holding them to the percentage

[4:32:53] that are in their contracts

[4:32:58] because a lot of times even

[4:32:58] that math sometimes falls

[4:32:59] through the floor.

[4:33:03] How do we verify what they're

[4:33:03] the revenue that's coming in

[4:33:04] and that we're actually

[4:33:08] collecting the right amount?

[4:33:09] Councilmember I can take a

[4:33:10] swing at that part Pardon

[4:33:14] the horrible intentional pun

[4:33:14] And so the revenue audits are

[4:33:15] conducted by the Treasurer's by

[4:33:16] the by the city attorney's

[4:33:20] office And so when they do

[4:33:20] revenue audits it would depend

[4:33:21] on the categories that are in

[4:33:22] there but they do go in and

[4:33:25] review the books for those.

[4:33:26] One of the things that and

[4:33:31] again thanks to MR. Howard from

[4:33:31] golf one of the one of

[4:33:32] the things about enhancing

[4:33:36] the amount of the type of

[4:33:36] performance data that we get

[4:33:37] from them is it would help

[4:33:37] verify revenue.

[4:33:42] There's certain things that

[4:33:43] that they can that Golf

[4:33:43] division currently does that we

[4:33:44] don't ask of our lessees to

[4:33:47] triangulate the amount of

[4:33:48] revenue and ensure that we're

[4:33:48] collecting the amount that we

[4:33:49] are Regarding the specifics of

[4:33:53] how they do revenue audits, I

[4:33:53] would defer to

[4:33:54] the administration on that but

[4:33:55] that's a separate division that

[4:33:55] does that.

[4:33:58] They do that throughout

[4:33:59] the city for example in Mission

[4:33:59] Bay etc. So they do those

[4:34:00] revenue audits periodically for

[4:34:05] all all leaseholders that have

[4:34:05] a revenue split agreement with

[4:34:06] the city.

[4:34:10] Okay.

[4:34:11] I figure if we're not

[4:34:11] inspecting the golf courses

[4:34:12] themselves regularly and their

[4:34:15] inspector books accordingly so

[4:34:16] do we have does it look like

[4:34:24] that happens every single year

[4:34:24] ?

[4:34:25] Thank you Councilmember.

[4:34:26] So one of the things that we

[4:34:31] instituted with the update of

[4:34:32] the council policies on 1012

[4:34:37] and 32 was the frequency to

[4:34:37] which the audits would occur

[4:34:38] and that the city Treasurer's

[4:34:39] office and economic development

[4:34:43] would work on a work plan of

[4:34:44] what are the leases that are

[4:34:44] coming up that are within their

[4:34:48] lease time frame not only in

[4:34:49] the annual audit but then to

[4:34:50] ensure that the audit is

[4:34:55] reflecting what rent should be

[4:34:55] collected.

[4:34:56] That's been very successful

[4:34:56] over the last two fiscal years

[4:35:00] in that partnership and again

[4:35:01] I'd love to remember

[4:35:02] the council that the books were

[4:35:06] in bad shape in terms of where

[4:35:07] things were cataloged Within

[4:35:07] our system we've upgraded our

[4:35:08] system.

[4:35:08] We've put a lot of internal

[4:35:13] controls in place so that

[4:35:14] revenue is categorized

[4:35:15] appropriately per

[4:35:15] the leaseholds.

[4:35:18] All of this has been remedied

[4:35:19] really in the last 18 months

[4:35:20] And so what we're seeing now is

[4:35:25] accuracy within that audit.

[4:35:26] It occurred prior to those

[4:35:26] controls being in place.

[4:35:29] So this was calendar year 21

[4:35:30] through 24.

[4:35:30] All of those controls are

[4:35:31] actively in place and working

[4:35:36] collectively to ensure the city

[4:35:37] is receiving the revenue that

[4:35:37] it should.

[4:35:38] >> Okay, that lessons was very

[4:35:38] important.

[4:35:42] I appreciate the good work on

[4:35:42] that.

[4:35:43] Thank you.

[4:35:43] Thanks, PRESIDENT.

[4:35:44] All right.

[4:35:44] Thank you.

[4:35:45] Council member Campi.

[4:35:45] We'll go next to Councilmember

[4:35:46] Foster.

[4:35:52] Yes, I guess I will Thank you

[4:35:57] for audit.

[4:35:58] Thank you.

[4:35:59] You know for my colleagues in

[4:36:01] their in their questions and

[4:36:08] their concern.

[4:36:09] I guess what I'm struggling

[4:36:14] with is I feel as if we throw

[4:36:15] we say we have a contract that

[4:36:20] was put in place 20 years ago

[4:36:25] or whatever the case MAY be and

[4:36:26] we continue to operate and

[4:36:31] function within these within

[4:36:31] state contract.

[4:36:32] But it seems like we are

[4:36:33] constantly running into an

[4:36:38] issue with these.

[4:36:39] I'm a common like a check on

[4:36:40] legacy contracts or whatever

[4:36:40] you want to call them on but

[4:36:43] typically every contract that

[4:36:44] I've dealt with over the years

[4:36:49] there's clauses to exit

[4:36:49] the contract And I guess I'm

[4:36:55] not necessarily understanding

[4:36:56] as we are the city of San Diego

[4:37:01] when we we do business with

[4:37:02] certain groups to where I feel

[4:37:07] they dictate how we do business

[4:37:08] versus us being the city of San

[4:37:12] Diego, the second largest city

[4:37:12] in the state and being in a

[4:37:18] position to Gucci better terms

[4:37:19] we're not negotiating for you

[4:37:24] MR. Smith, or for the mayor.

[4:37:25] We're negotiating on behalf of

[4:37:25] the residents, on behalf of our

[4:37:31] taxpayers And it seems we don't

[4:37:31] go in with the proper position

[4:37:42] or goal to maximize our

[4:37:42] opportunities in their best

[4:37:43] interest And I think that is

[4:37:48] really a theme that I struggle

[4:37:48] with especially coming from

[4:37:54] the industry that I came from

[4:37:55] certain organizations I work

[4:37:55] for.

[4:37:56] You signed a contract.

[4:38:00] The contract was very well

[4:38:01] written and very well written

[4:38:02] to where I could look at

[4:38:02] someone to say I'm going to

[4:38:07] turn you up So if you don't do

[4:38:08] what I say do I'm going to turn

[4:38:08] you upside down and shake you

[4:38:09] until nothing falls out of your

[4:38:12] pockets.

[4:38:13] But let me and I'm just

[4:38:18] confused and and so can you

[4:38:19] help me to understand And even

[4:38:23] if we go through and we have an

[4:38:24] agreement you go from 5% to 7%

[4:38:30] but yet there are still from if

[4:38:31] I understand the numbers that

[4:38:31] were presented in this audit

[4:38:35] even with that percentage

[4:38:36] change, they are still

[4:38:41] profiting substantially.

[4:38:42] And yet my colleague in

[4:38:47] District nine has no restroom

[4:38:48] And I think there's a you know,

[4:38:54] we just went through a series

[4:38:55] of conversations and everyone

[4:38:55] wanted to go to bat and fight

[4:39:00] for restrooms at Bishan Beach

[4:39:06] which I understand but I don't

[4:39:07] have restrooms at my parks in

[4:39:12] my community And so can you

[4:39:13] help me to understand how we

[4:39:13] have this long term lease?

[4:39:14] What types of provisions are on

[4:39:18] their why are we not taking a

[4:39:19] different position and looking

[4:39:23] to change?

[4:39:24] I'm not understanding.

[4:39:25] The other question I have is

[4:39:25] and I think it was very

[4:39:29] specific on when I would

[4:39:30] oftentimes I talk about

[4:39:31] understanding our book of

[4:39:36] business and I'm a little taken

[4:39:36] back that we have not if we

[4:39:41] have however many holdover

[4:39:42] leases we have, why are we not

[4:39:43] understanding what those are

[4:39:45] prioritizing accordingly so

[4:39:46] that we are maximizing our

[4:39:52] return?

[4:39:53] If I understand the way you

[4:39:54] answered that question on

[4:39:57] Casey, it seems as if we don't

[4:39:58] have that type of thought out

[4:39:59] process in place so that we are

[4:40:04] approaching this from a very

[4:40:09] informed intentional way so

[4:40:10] that as we are having our

[4:40:15] budget conversations that we

[4:40:16] are maximizing opportunities to

[4:40:21] better serve the residents of

[4:40:21] the city of San Diego.

[4:40:22] If someone can help me to

[4:40:27] understand that because I think

[4:40:27] the line of questioning of hey,

[4:40:28] where does the mayor stand on

[4:40:33] this Because again I'm going to

[4:40:34] go back to these are

[4:40:34] the inherent problems of a

[4:40:43] strong mayor form of government

[4:40:43] because I think everyone's

[4:40:44] attitude would be different

[4:40:48] when we have a conversation

[4:40:49] about is the operations in line

[4:40:54] with the council.

[4:40:55] If we had a city manager that

[4:40:56] reported to the council I think

[4:40:58] our conversations I would like

[4:41:04] to think would be different.

[4:41:05] So if someone can help me to

[4:41:06] understand because I've been

[4:41:09] here two years I haven't been

[4:41:10] here eight but I know if I've

[4:41:11] been asking for something for

[4:41:12] eight years and I didn't get it

[4:41:15] no conversation would be

[4:41:15] pleasant.

[4:41:21] Not one So help me to

[4:41:22] understand it.

[4:41:22] Matter of fact eight plus eight

[4:41:26] is my math is 16 so help me to

[4:41:31] understand please.

[4:41:32] >> If I could maybe address

[4:41:33] your first question about

[4:41:38] the contracts and why perhaps

[4:41:38] they're different in a real

[4:41:39] property solution.

[4:41:39] It is not as simple as a

[4:41:40] contract where there are

[4:41:43] termination clauses.

[4:41:44] I would love to say that each

[4:41:45] of our leases have a

[4:41:45] termination clause.

[4:41:50] I can tell you right now they

[4:41:51] don't looking across the entire

[4:41:51] portfolio.

[4:41:54] So issue number one issue

[4:41:54] number two, it's not a contract

[4:41:55] for services in the same way

[4:42:00] that delivery doesn't happen

[4:42:01] when you have real property.

[4:42:01] There are technically property

[4:42:02] rights associated with

[4:42:06] the lease that then likely have

[4:42:07] remedies default clauses.

[4:42:08] All of those have to be

[4:42:12] exercised in order for us to

[4:42:13] completely disrupt and then

[4:42:13] prove that they truly are out

[4:42:18] of compliance with their lease.

[4:42:19] We have several of those we are

[4:42:20] pursuing right now.

[4:42:24] Additionally with we the way

[4:42:25] that the department has been

[4:42:25] restructured within economic

[4:42:30] development we have put

[4:42:30] together a work plan.

[4:42:31] We have put together a

[4:42:32] strategic memo prioritizing

[4:42:36] revenue generating sites that

[4:42:37] were either in holdover or not

[4:42:37] maximizing the city's

[4:42:38] potential.

[4:42:42] We are actively working through

[4:42:43] those to date.

[4:42:43] I'll defer to the mayor's

[4:42:44] office to speak to the other

[4:42:47] question but I wanted you to

[4:42:48] know it's not as simple

[4:42:49] potentially as some MAY

[4:42:49] perceive about contracts

[4:42:54] termination based on general

[4:42:55] performance, real property

[4:42:56] contracts like leases, licenses

[4:42:57] etc. They are different.

[4:43:04] >> So thank you I think

[4:43:05] Councilmember if you'd like I

[4:43:06] can take that question about

[4:43:06] how we reposition

[4:43:07] the department to focus on

[4:43:10] revenue generating

[4:43:10] opportunities.

[4:43:11] You know Christina and team

[4:43:12] have a very robust work plan.

[4:43:15] That work plan is based It is

[4:43:16] really looking at tackling

[4:43:17] revenue generating

[4:43:17] opportunities, leases and

[4:43:21] holdover and trying to balance

[4:43:22] that to see what is going to

[4:43:23] generate what can we focus on

[4:43:23] that's going to generate

[4:43:27] the most return on investment

[4:43:27] for the city.

[4:43:28] So we do collectively look at

[4:43:28] that.

[4:43:29] That is something that her and

[4:43:32] her team actively work on and

[4:43:33] they do have clear direction

[4:43:34] and we've got plenty of

[4:43:39] examples of we can point to

[4:43:40] where we've been trying to

[4:43:40] focus on that.

[4:43:41] >> So how does the public hold

[4:43:45] the mirror accountable?

[4:43:46] What information do you have on

[4:43:46] the website?

[4:43:51] What transparency do you have?

[4:43:52] Do you have a place to go to

[4:43:53] where every single lease is

[4:43:53] indicated?

[4:43:57] How do we do this?

[4:43:58] I can't and I guess I ask this

[4:43:59] question I'm asked this

[4:44:04] question because we have

[4:44:04] the audit It's my understanding

[4:44:05] you went through negotiated

[4:44:09] whatever terms you

[4:44:09] renegotiated.

[4:44:10] I don't think any of us have

[4:44:10] seen it.

[4:44:11] I didn't receive a briefing on

[4:44:11] it.

[4:44:15] I don't know if you call my

[4:44:16] office or not as we've been on

[4:44:16] legislative recess but now

[4:44:17] we've gone through if I

[4:44:22] understand you correctly put a

[4:44:23] new updated release in

[4:44:27] the course whatever those bad

[4:44:28] terms are and no one saw it.

[4:44:29] Did you see it?

[4:44:34] Did the city auditor see it?

[4:44:35] Did you guys get consulted

[4:44:36] before everyone text on

[4:44:39] the dotted line or again it was

[4:44:40] the mayor in the room in

[4:44:45] negotiating.

[4:44:45] So those are market

[4:44:46] readjustments.

[4:44:47] They're different than bringing

[4:44:47] forward the leases.

[4:44:50] So the other leases in the Gulf

[4:44:51] portfolio related to this audit

[4:44:51] that are underway in

[4:44:52] negotiation, this council will

[4:44:57] have the opportunity to vote on

[4:44:58] all of those and see

[4:44:58] the negotiated terms and see

[4:44:59] the increase in revenue that

[4:45:00] we've been successfully

[4:45:03] negotiating over the last few

[4:45:03] months.

[4:45:04] So that's the process for

[4:45:04] council and none of the leases

[4:45:05] that we are currently

[4:45:08] negotiating or short term

[4:45:09] leases which then fall under a

[4:45:09] three year period or less all

[4:45:14] of these are longer term leases

[4:45:14] with an exchange to create

[4:45:15] revenue and operate maintain a

[4:45:16] city golf course to

[4:45:20] the standard the city demands.

[4:45:21] And I do appreciate the audit

[4:45:21] from the auditor because we do

[4:45:22] want more performance.

[4:45:26] Very few of our leases today

[4:45:27] have performance indicators at

[4:45:28] all whereas if you look at

[4:45:32] the nonprofit contracts that

[4:45:32] the department manages we have

[4:45:33] a lot of performance metrics so

[4:45:34] we're happy to have that

[4:45:38] partnership and work alongside

[4:45:39] the golf division to improve

[4:45:39] that going forward.

[4:45:44] But that's I appreciate that I

[4:45:45] still I still have to take

[4:45:50] issue with the response because

[4:45:51] again I'm going to go back to

[4:45:51] any contract that is done is

[4:45:56] put in place by us And so good,

[4:45:57] bad or indifferent a bad

[4:46:02] contract is a bad contract And

[4:46:03] if we are continuing to operate

[4:46:07] and you are working I guess

[4:46:08] I'll call it a silo to where we

[4:46:09] don't have the true

[4:46:13] transparency I don't think it's

[4:46:14] our responsibility to go out

[4:46:19] and explain to individuals that

[4:46:20] bad contract to explain to

[4:46:20] individuals all of those

[4:46:21] issues.

[4:46:26] That's the job of operations is

[4:46:27] the same way the mayor tells us

[4:46:28] who we can call and talk to who

[4:46:32] we cannot.

[4:46:32] >> Right.

[4:46:33] I forgot to mention

[4:46:33] the transparency part was a

[4:46:34] really key component.

[4:46:37] I would love this council to

[4:46:38] know One of the things that

[4:46:39] the department spent an

[4:46:39] exorbitant amount of time

[4:46:44] producing is the leases,

[4:46:45] the amendments and various

[4:46:45] different These documents we

[4:46:50] are making those available and

[4:46:50] working with the end in it to

[4:46:56] ensure that the public has all

[4:46:56] of the agreements right now

[4:46:57] they don't the easiest way they

[4:46:58] can get them is the praise this

[4:47:02] will advance the ability for

[4:47:03] people to do their own searches

[4:47:04] in the same way that special

[4:47:04] use permit are available on

[4:47:08] the website to I.

[4:47:14] I hate to say this but as bad

[4:47:14] as this is the public should

[4:47:20] not have to pray again this is

[4:47:20] taxpayer dollars and we are

[4:47:26] going to what's the term owners

[4:47:27] it's it's it's we're putting

[4:47:27] another level on them to figure

[4:47:31] out how the mayors is

[4:47:37] protecting their dollars and to

[4:47:38] say hey let's just do a pray.

[4:47:39] >> I don't think that's

[4:47:44] the appropriate response.

[4:47:45] Forgive me that wasn't what I

[4:47:45] was if my wording wasn't

[4:47:46] correct.

[4:47:50] We are getting an overabundance

[4:47:50] of yours to request

[4:47:51] the existing leases because

[4:47:52] they're not available.

[4:47:56] They're not attainable and

[4:47:56] they're not searchable.

[4:47:57] We're making that readily

[4:47:58] accessible for the entire

[4:47:58] portfolio.

[4:48:03] So forgive me if I wasn't clear

[4:48:04] that that is what we mean.

[4:48:05] So what's our timeframe for

[4:48:05] that?

[4:48:08] Actually it should be up again

[4:48:08] the next month.

[4:48:09] So Councilmember, I'll just

[4:48:10] note a lot of the leases are

[4:48:14] already online as attachments

[4:48:15] to the council committee

[4:48:16] meetings When the council files

[4:48:16] when they were approved.

[4:48:20] It's a it's a roundabout way to

[4:48:20] getting it.

[4:48:21] It's not a good user interface

[4:48:22] but I don't want there to be a

[4:48:23] perception that the leases are

[4:48:27] not available at some point to

[4:48:27] the public only accessible

[4:48:28] through appeal.

[4:48:28] >> Right.

[4:48:31] I can appreciate that But again

[4:48:32] that's a bureaucratic that's a

[4:48:38] bureaucratic approach already I

[4:48:39] think I heard my time run out

[4:48:44] on council PRESIDENT I will end

[4:48:45] here But again I have to say we

[4:48:50] need to find a way to deal with

[4:48:51] this in a more efficient

[4:48:51] manner.

[4:48:56] I don't know.

[4:48:56] The city attorney needs to get

[4:48:57] involved but at some point we

[4:49:01] need to take a different

[4:49:02] position and approach And so

[4:49:02] I'll be pushing out to make

[4:49:08] sure we do that as we move

[4:49:09] forward.

[4:49:09] Thank you.

[4:49:09] All right.

[4:49:10] Thank you, Governor Foster.

[4:49:11] I'll go to Councilmember

[4:49:12] Whitman.

[4:49:13] Thank you very much.

[4:49:13] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:49:19] We absolutely need to make sure

[4:49:20] to maximize revenues in our

[4:49:20] city.

[4:49:24] We absolutely need to eliminate

[4:49:30] disparities And I'll tell you

[4:49:30] the person I'm most unhappy

[4:49:31] with, the person I'm most

[4:49:36] unhappy with is the mayor who

[4:49:36] originally signed this lease

[4:49:41] who signed on the dotted line

[4:49:42] to commit this city to a

[4:49:43] sweetheart deal a deal that we

[4:49:44] have been stuck with for

[4:49:48] decades and we will continue to

[4:49:48] be stuck with for decades and

[4:49:49] we will be stuck with this

[4:49:53] until it ends.

[4:49:54] And the mayor who signed on

[4:49:56] the dotted line was Mayor

[4:50:01] People.

[4:50:07] >> So let's make that clear.

[4:50:12] This is not a holdover release

[4:50:13] .

[4:50:14] It's not a lease that has

[4:50:14] expired and that we have an

[4:50:18] opportunity to renegotiate.

[4:50:19] >> It is an act of current

[4:50:19] lease and we're stuck with this

[4:50:23] act of current lease until

[4:50:24] the end of the act of current

[4:50:24] lease.

[4:50:25] But we do have an opportunity

[4:50:26] to do is revisit it

[4:50:28] periodically and update

[4:50:34] the terms and I appreciate

[4:50:35] the recent efforts to do that

[4:50:40] and I know the as future

[4:50:40] opportunities come up we'll

[4:50:41] continue to do our best to

[4:50:42] maximize the revenue available

[4:50:45] to us.

[4:50:46] Thank you.

[4:50:46] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:50:46] All right.

[4:50:47] Thank you.

[4:50:50] Council member Whitburn Only

[4:50:51] one item on this afternoon's

[4:50:51] agenda.

[4:50:55] I want to jump in now.

[4:50:56] Nobody else is on the lights.

[4:50:57] Thank you Andy and the entire

[4:51:01] team for the audit work And I

[4:51:06] know this was we're hearing

[4:51:06] this today from you.

[4:51:07] This was heard previously by

[4:51:08] the audit committee and I think

[4:51:12] was available in the spring And

[4:51:12] I think it actually inspired

[4:51:13] some conversations during

[4:51:17] the budget budget cycle not not

[4:51:18] a lot of room to maneuver but I

[4:51:23] think it was very formative and

[4:51:23] continues to emphasize why

[4:51:24] having an independent city

[4:51:25] auditor is a good thing for for

[4:51:31] all of us that my my colleagues

[4:51:36] covered a lot of ground and in

[4:51:36] fact we probably covered a lot

[4:51:37] more ground than the audit in

[4:51:40] front of us.

[4:51:41] And so I'm going to start out

[4:51:46] by suggesting that one of

[4:51:47] the council committees think

[4:51:51] about how this item that I

[4:51:52] think everybody is focused on

[4:51:56] So less than the audit itself

[4:51:56] than the larger questions and

[4:51:57] whether it's the air land use

[4:52:00] and housing or budget where we

[4:52:05] perhaps can have dig in a

[4:52:06] little bit deeper and have a

[4:52:07] better conversation about where

[4:52:11] we are and where we're going.

[4:52:12] I'm going to ask just one

[4:52:16] question of you for context.

[4:52:16] One Was real estate folded into

[4:52:20] economic development Officially

[4:52:25] within the fiscal year 25

[4:52:26] budget season I became director

[4:52:30] of both departments in NOVEMBER

[4:52:31] of 23.

[4:52:31] >> Okay.

[4:52:35] I'd just like to remind people

[4:52:35] of that time and what you

[4:52:36] inherited and the reason it was

[4:52:39] folded in and the work that you

[4:52:47] and your staff have done which

[4:52:47] we're still in difficult

[4:52:48] positions, you're still doing a

[4:52:48] lot of catch up.

[4:52:52] You still don't have the staff

[4:52:53] to go back with all the old

[4:52:56] leases and relook at them.

[4:52:57] But I didn't want this moment

[4:52:58] to pass without recognizing

[4:53:01] that good work And then we come

[4:53:02] up with new things for you to

[4:53:03] work on which I'll go remain

[4:53:06] nameless and to the point that

[4:53:11] that Councilmember Whitburn

[4:53:12] raised in a couple of my

[4:53:16] colleagues raised this was done

[4:53:16] in 2016.

[4:53:17] This is not the original lease

[4:53:18] that you were referring to with

[4:53:21] Pete Wilson but 2016 which is

[4:53:26] really what sets the bar for us

[4:53:26] which also was when surf up

[4:53:30] another problematic lease that

[4:53:35] we have to deal with And it is

[4:53:36] done as good a job as you can

[4:53:37] within the confines of that

[4:53:40] lease language that I remember

[4:53:40] Councilmember Leitner voted

[4:53:44] against.

[4:53:45] I think the skydiving center

[4:53:46] falls somewhere in there and

[4:53:48] one on one ash fall somewhere

[4:53:49] in there seems to be a little

[4:53:53] bit of a pattern of things that

[4:53:54] not as excuses We're here now

[4:53:54] It's our job to make things

[4:53:58] right and do the best we can

[4:53:58] But it doesn't.

[4:54:03] It makes me think twice about

[4:54:03] it to the point that was well

[4:54:08] for the audit team the table

[4:54:09] you preside which shows all

[4:54:13] this golf course leases on city

[4:54:17] on the percentage is all over

[4:54:17] the map and they don't

[4:54:18] necessarily see the city in

[4:54:22] what it can do as to being

[4:54:26] the market and I suspect that

[4:54:27] there's a different story for

[4:54:30] each lease and why there is one

[4:54:31] at 1% and there's one at 25%

[4:54:36] and it would be nice to say why

[4:54:39] can't they all be 25% their Is

[4:54:40] there anything in the work that

[4:54:45] you did so far Because I we

[4:54:45] always have conversations about

[4:54:48] what your job is as an auditor,

[4:54:49] a performance auditor.

[4:54:50] Was there any look about why

[4:54:53] there was such that wide range

[4:54:54] was a just that was a deal that

[4:54:55] was cut with that leaseholder

[4:54:59] on that particular day or

[4:54:59] you're talking about

[4:55:00] the Fairbanks furniture All of

[4:55:03] them All of them I mean if

[4:55:04] we're trying to say what it

[4:55:05] should be based on that table

[4:55:08] well we again I think I

[4:55:09] mentioned this whom we talk

[4:55:13] about we're not appraisers.

[4:55:13] Right.

[4:55:14] You know, we use that example

[4:55:15] at 20% because it's a little

[4:55:18] bit less than the most

[4:55:18] comparable courses which are

[4:55:25] technology and mission trails.

[4:55:26] If you look at that if you look

[4:55:27] at that list if you remember it

[4:55:27] Vineyard I think there was a

[4:55:30] public commenter mentioned we

[4:55:31] only owned half of that course

[4:55:33] so we get 11% but that's only

[4:55:34] for half the course.

[4:55:38] Carlton Oaks same thing We only

[4:55:39] own half of that.

[4:55:41] We get 9% even though we only

[4:55:46] own half of it.

[4:55:47] So again we're not appraisers

[4:55:51] and this MAY be the best that

[4:55:51] can be done with the deal that

[4:55:55] was struck in 2016, you know

[4:55:57] that has certain limits on what

[4:56:02] they can use.

[4:56:03] But I just think it is notable

[4:56:07] in some way, you know, either

[4:56:08] it's 2016 or you know, maybe

[4:56:12] there's a little more room for

[4:56:13] something now And so I think

[4:56:13] it's worth discussing.

[4:56:13] Sure.

[4:56:16] No, I completely agree And

[4:56:17] without stepping on the toes of

[4:56:21] my colleagues we probably

[4:56:22] shouldn't leap too much on

[4:56:25] the variety on that table And

[4:56:26] of course we would want

[4:56:27] the high end.

[4:56:30] But as we're all talking we

[4:56:31] have legacy leases that were

[4:56:35] kind of have to be stuck with

[4:56:36] One of the things I was hoping

[4:56:36] with that would come out of

[4:56:37] the conversation is

[4:56:40] the condition of our city

[4:56:41] managed golf courses versus

[4:56:41] these nonprofits.

[4:56:45] I don't MR. Howard would you

[4:56:45] because I think some question

[4:56:46] has been maybe we ought to take

[4:56:50] back these without speaking to

[4:56:50] the legality of that But

[4:56:55] whether we should take back how

[4:56:55] good what is the condition of

[4:56:59] these leased golf courses

[4:57:00] compared to what you manage on

[4:57:04] a day to day basis?

[4:57:04] No.

[4:57:05] Well thank you for the question

[4:57:08] Once again, my name is John

[4:57:09] Howard, Deputy Director.

[4:57:09] All of these courses are

[4:57:12] actually very different from

[4:57:13] one to the next.

[4:57:14] So when you look at Torrey

[4:57:17] Pines there is obviously a high

[4:57:18] end golf course But when we

[4:57:23] start talking about some of

[4:57:24] these executives like tech

[4:57:24] technology mission trails,

[4:57:27] those are going to be very

[4:57:27] different.

[4:57:28] So I think we really have to

[4:57:28] think about what are

[4:57:31] the expectations for each one

[4:57:32] of those golf courses.

[4:57:32] Fair enough.

[4:57:36] I think that's a very generous

[4:57:37] answer.

[4:57:37] But I think the reality is is

[4:57:38] that they are very different

[4:57:42] golf courses and whereas

[4:57:42] Fairbanks Ranch you might

[4:57:43] expect might be at the highest

[4:57:46] quality Presidio probably

[4:57:47] hovers around the bottom there

[4:57:51] and that's a whole other

[4:57:52] conversation going forward And

[4:57:52] I think technology is closed

[4:57:56] right because of the massive

[4:57:56] sewer project there.

[4:58:01] So do we know when technology

[4:58:01] is coming back online?

[4:58:02] >> Yeah.

[4:58:06] Currently we're in the process

[4:58:06] right now of working with

[4:58:07] economic development to get a

[4:58:10] long term lease there.

[4:58:11] We are working with one of

[4:58:15] the partners to be able to take

[4:58:15] over operations.

[4:58:16] Since MARCH 1st the Golf

[4:58:16] division has been managing that

[4:58:20] property.

[4:58:21] Construction is scheduled to be

[4:58:25] complete by I believe SEPTEMBER

[4:58:25] 14th.

[4:58:30] So there will be a a little bit

[4:58:30] of a break in between

[4:58:31] construction and reopening.

[4:58:34] But we are going to wait until

[4:58:35] there's a long term lease in

[4:58:35] place.

[4:58:36] Okay, great.

[4:58:36] Thank you.

[4:58:39] Well, thank you for the amazing

[4:58:40] work.

[4:58:41] It's I think a very big point

[4:58:42] of pride Torrey Pines I mean

[4:58:45] that small golf course that is

[4:58:46] hosted the us Open and is

[4:58:49] the envy of every other private

[4:58:50] golf course as well as every

[4:58:50] other municipality And a large

[4:58:54] tribute to you and the entire

[4:58:54] golf division.

[4:58:59] So thank you for that.

[4:59:00] You know, I'm trying to figure

[4:59:00] out what I can add to this

[4:59:01] lengthy conversation and

[4:59:04] the comments of of my

[4:59:04] colleagues.

[4:59:08] I guess to the point and I'm

[4:59:09] going to ask you, Casey,

[4:59:10] because I think most people are

[4:59:13] have just about done an 18 hole

[4:59:14] golf course coming up and down

[4:59:17] from there.

[4:59:23] Point that was raised by my

[4:59:23] colleagues in terms of

[4:59:27] the investment in terms of

[4:59:28] investing in resources to move

[4:59:33] quicker on leaseholds, whether

[4:59:33] they're in carryover, whether

[4:59:37] they're ready to expire and we

[4:59:38] should think about whether to

[4:59:42] renew or to go back out.

[4:59:43] You've kind of suggested that

[4:59:44] that kind of analysis has been

[4:59:46] done and doesn't seem to be

[4:59:47] It's never reached a tipping

[4:59:48] point where we ought to invest

[4:59:53] more in it Indeed staff or I

[4:59:57] think you know, counsels fully

[4:59:58] aware of this You know it is a

[5:00:02] general fund department.

[5:00:03] You know we are able to bill

[5:00:03] for some of the work we do on

[5:00:04] pad leases and enterprise

[5:00:07] leases but it is a general fund

[5:00:08] department and it's essentially

[5:00:08] as long as I've been with

[5:00:11] the city been treated just like

[5:00:12] a general fund department, you

[5:00:13] know, no different than you

[5:00:16] know, when budget reductions

[5:00:16] are requested.

[5:00:17] You know every general fund

[5:00:21] department is is you know,

[5:00:21] assigned a percentage to hit,

[5:00:25] you know, 2 or 3% reductions.

[5:00:26] We had reductions in this past

[5:00:29] fiscal year previous years

[5:00:30] they've seen reductions.

[5:00:30] So you know, I don't think

[5:00:31] we've added to that department

[5:00:33] in many years.

[5:00:34] I think you know, what I'm

[5:00:35] hearing from council is a

[5:00:38] desire to put more investment

[5:00:39] into the real estate side of

[5:00:43] the house and I'm happy to work

[5:00:44] on a proposal to bring that

[5:00:44] forward.

[5:00:45] I think there are risks

[5:00:48] associated with that which

[5:00:49] would be, you know, potential

[5:00:49] reductions in other areas of

[5:00:50] the general fund in order to

[5:00:53] support that.

[5:00:54] You know, we're talking you

[5:00:55] know, I don't have a number off

[5:00:58] the top of my head but it is a

[5:00:59] percentage of the revenue that

[5:00:59] we bring in on the general fund

[5:01:02] side that we would essentially

[5:01:03] hold back to preserve and build

[5:01:08] staff within the department to

[5:01:09] address the backlog of leases

[5:01:09] that you know, have been there

[5:01:13] for decades frankly.

[5:01:13] Okay.

[5:01:14] I'm trying to get one last

[5:01:17] question.

[5:01:18] One of the things my staff

[5:01:19] hears me say often I heard I

[5:01:22] thought I remember wasn't so

[5:01:22] correct me if I'm wrong I could

[5:01:27] very well be wrong.

[5:01:27] I thought there was some

[5:01:28] conversation about actually

[5:01:31] going outside to help catch up

[5:01:32] that we actually had some

[5:01:32] conversations with maybe meaa

[5:01:37] to navigate that we decided

[5:01:37] that wasn't productive.

[5:01:38] I think most people are going

[5:01:43] to jump out of her chair so

[5:01:43] let's we're talking about our

[5:01:44] property management.

[5:01:45] >> So it was our property

[5:01:45] management.

[5:01:46] Okay.

[5:01:46] Yes.

[5:01:47] To augment the resources that

[5:01:51] we had we put together an rfq

[5:01:51] build bench So we do have

[5:01:52] consultants available to us

[5:01:56] ready to roll out ab 339 slowed

[5:01:57] us up a bit So we've had to go

[5:02:01] through a lot more of the kind

[5:02:01] of process but we're just now

[5:02:06] on the other side of that So

[5:02:06] the first one we're rolling out

[5:02:07] actually benefits Puddy.

[5:02:10] We did a mini scope for five of

[5:02:11] the leases that are in Holdover

[5:02:12] and we're actively putting that

[5:02:15] out to shop it.

[5:02:16] So we are getting some support

[5:02:17] and nea has been very generous

[5:02:20] working with us for a time

[5:02:21] period to allow us to try to

[5:02:21] catch up and bring additional

[5:02:24] resources to bear.

[5:02:25] >> So we are we're finally

[5:02:25] getting there.

[5:02:26] Okay.

[5:02:26] It's good.

[5:02:29] I'm glad we got that kind of on

[5:02:33] the record And I know I have

[5:02:34] council members.

[5:02:34] We often don't care Public

[5:02:39] certainly doesn't care But

[5:02:39] there's even this point about a

[5:02:40] new state law that says okay,

[5:02:41] you got to stop what you're

[5:02:43] doing, deal with this new law

[5:02:44] and how it interferes with our

[5:02:48] operations doesn't help us And

[5:02:49] so we try to crawl our way out

[5:02:52] of some of these holes that

[5:02:53] the prior administrations

[5:02:57] handed over to us.

[5:02:58] But I think I'm going to stop

[5:02:58] there.

[5:02:59] I think we've talked in and

[5:03:02] around it but again I continue

[5:03:03] to encourage my committee

[5:03:07] chairs are I don't for my

[5:03:07] committee chairs but there are

[5:03:08] committee chairs to think about

[5:03:12] which committee might be a good

[5:03:12] candidate to have a deeper

[5:03:17] discussion on these issues that

[5:03:18] have been raised both through

[5:03:18] the audit and our conversation

[5:03:22] this afternoon.

[5:03:23] So I'll close this and say

[5:03:24] again thank you to the audit

[5:03:26] committee.

[5:03:27] Thank you to Casey and thank

[5:03:31] you to Christina for engaging

[5:03:36] with the council this afternoon

[5:03:37] and a very long but hopefully a

[5:03:38] productive conversation so that

[5:03:40] we're a little smarter and see

[5:03:41] different opportunities go

[5:03:45] forward.

[5:03:46] And with that, as long as we're

[5:03:47] still holding five of us and

[5:03:49] staying awake and a long

[5:03:55] afternoon, we are now done with

[5:03:55] the information.

[5:03:56] This again was an information

[5:03:57] item and no motion was required

[5:04:00] as I stated this morning we

[5:04:00] will now take up virtual not

[5:04:04] agenda public comment that was

[5:04:05] trailed from this morning.

[5:04:05] Council members respect and

[5:04:09] appreciate the public input and

[5:04:10] are fully committed to

[5:04:10] protecting every participant's

[5:04:13] free speech rights at Council

[5:04:14] and committee meetings And I

[5:04:14] probably don't have to say this

[5:04:15] but if you spoke in person this

[5:04:19] morning please do not call in.

[5:04:20] You have one opportunity to

[5:04:21] speak on not a general public

[5:04:23] comment per council meeting

[5:04:24] with that clerk Please proceed

[5:04:29] with our virtual public

[5:04:29] comment.

[5:04:29] >> Thank you.

[5:04:30] Council PRESIDENT Pearl $2.7

[5:04:33] General public comment is an

[5:04:34] opportunity for members of

[5:04:35] the public to comment on items

[5:04:35] that are not on the agenda but

[5:04:36] within the subject matter

[5:04:38] jurisdiction of the City

[5:04:39] Council.

[5:04:42] Each speaker will have two

[5:04:43] minutes since everyone should

[5:04:43] be joining us virtually.

[5:04:44] Please make sure to raise your

[5:04:47] hand now or dial star nine

[5:04:51] starting with Thank you wrap if

[5:04:51] you can please unmute.

[5:04:52] We do have seven speakers in

[5:04:56] the queue.

[5:05:01] >> Good afternoon.

[5:05:02] My name is Becky Rapp and today

[5:05:03] I'd like to bring your

[5:05:06] attention to a study that was

[5:05:10] published in jama Psychiatry by

[5:05:11] researchers from the National

[5:05:12] Institute on Drug Abuse.

[5:05:16] The study analyzed more than

[5:05:20] 186,000 adults using data from

[5:05:21] 2021 through 2024.

[5:05:25] >> The researchers found that

[5:05:26] cannabis use disorder is

[5:05:26] increasing while alcohol use

[5:05:30] disorder has declined or

[5:05:31] remained stable.

[5:05:35] This study is critical because

[5:05:36] it addresses a very important

[5:05:37] misconception that marijuana is

[5:05:40] safer than alcohol.

[5:05:41] That comparison is being used

[5:05:42] to justify expanding marijuana

[5:05:45] access and products across

[5:05:46] the country.

[5:05:47] According to the study in 2024

[5:05:50] more than 1 in 3 men who use

[5:05:53] marijuana that's 36% had

[5:05:53] responses consistent with

[5:05:57] cannabis use disorder.

[5:05:58] Among women who use marijuana

[5:06:01] it was more than 1 in 4 27%.

[5:06:02] And for young adults

[5:06:06] the numbers are even more

[5:06:06] alarming.

[5:06:07] The cdc is also clear when it

[5:06:10] identifies cannabis use

[5:06:11] disorder and warns about

[5:06:12] impairment and other health

[5:06:15] risks Its own materials say

[5:06:16] cannabis can result in

[5:06:16] psychoactive effects.

[5:06:20] So when someone says marijuana

[5:06:21] is safer than alcohol, we

[5:06:25] should point out that it is not

[5:06:26] the standard we should use for

[5:06:26] public policy.

[5:06:29] We should not be choosing

[5:06:30] between two public health

[5:06:31] problems If alcohol related

[5:06:34] disorders declining.

[5:06:35] Why would we want to fill that

[5:06:36] space with increasingly potent

[5:06:40] marijuana products?

[5:06:40] Council members Please follow

[5:06:44] the science not the industry

[5:06:44] Talking points.

[5:06:45] Marijuana use disorder is

[5:06:45] increasing.

[5:06:49] The severity is increasing and

[5:06:50] our policies should reflect

[5:06:50] that reality.

[5:06:51] >> Thank you.

[5:06:54] Thank you.

[5:06:55] >> Next is Peggy Walker.

[5:06:56] If you can please unmute.

[5:06:58] Thank you.

[5:06:59] Good afternoon.

[5:07:00] Because our guest is Substance

[5:07:04] Abuse Prevention Month.

[5:07:04] I come with that request.

[5:07:05] As rates rise for marijuana use

[5:07:08] and related addiction child

[5:07:09] poisonings, cannabis

[5:07:13] hyperemesis syndrome cycle

[5:07:14] since early stroke and heart

[5:07:18] attack violence and suicide I

[5:07:18] respectfully ask you to support

[5:07:23] legislation to cap thc potency

[5:07:24] in marijuana products.

[5:07:24] Other jurisdictions are doing

[5:07:28] this.

[5:07:29] It makes sense in light of

[5:07:29] the recent statement by San

[5:07:33] Diego Doctor Ronny Lev,

[5:07:34] national author of Drug Policy

[5:07:38] she called marijuana the number

[5:07:38] one drug addiction.

[5:07:42] Thc caps could help stem

[5:07:43] addiction because experts say

[5:07:44] marijuana is the hardest

[5:07:47] addiction to treat with fewer

[5:07:48] medications for recovery than

[5:07:52] opioids And methamphetamine.

[5:07:52] Through my youth substance use

[5:07:57] prevention work I witnessed

[5:07:58] firsthand some marijuana's

[5:07:58] devastating effects on young

[5:08:02] people.

[5:08:03] Kids are especially vulnerable

[5:08:03] to high potency thc due to

[5:08:07] ongoing brain development to

[5:08:08] age 26.

[5:08:11] Early pot use negatively

[5:08:12] impacts decision making impulse

[5:08:16] control emotions and has

[5:08:17] lasting effects on brain

[5:08:17] structure function and

[5:08:18] behavior.

[5:08:22] My work aims to prevent ill

[5:08:26] substance use prevent

[5:08:27] the progression to dependance

[5:08:27] and prevent consequences

[5:08:32] associated with use Marijuana

[5:08:32] Cancer.

[5:08:33] Nearly half of admissions for

[5:08:36] youth 12 to 17 into substance

[5:08:41] use treatment reflecting

[5:08:42] the fact that Prep 64 has

[5:08:42] failed its promise to keep our

[5:08:45] kids safe.

[5:08:46] Thc caps would help lessen

[5:08:50] the negative health impact on

[5:08:50] youth.

[5:08:51] Thank you.

[5:08:52] Thank you Barbara Gordon If you

[5:08:55] can please unmute.

[5:08:56] Thank you.

[5:09:00] As a public health educator I

[5:09:01] am urging the city to renew

[5:09:04] their investments in prevention

[5:09:05] and push back against

[5:09:09] the industry's best efforts to

[5:09:10] normalize drug use.

[5:09:10] Prevention remains one of

[5:09:14] the most effective and cost

[5:09:15] conscious tools we have in

[5:09:15] fighting against the drug

[5:09:19] crisis.

[5:09:20] In a recent sandag juvenile

[5:09:24] arrestee drug use in the San

[5:09:25] Diego region reports 98% of

[5:09:29] the that juveniles interviewed

[5:09:30] reported using at least one

[5:09:34] illicit substance and 68% of

[5:09:35] youth arrested said marijuana

[5:09:38] was the first substance they

[5:09:39] experimented with.

[5:09:42] And fortunately numerous

[5:09:43] marijuana predictors and

[5:09:43] policymakers that pursue

[5:09:48] profits at the expense of

[5:09:48] public health actively

[5:09:49] undermine our prevention

[5:09:53] efforts.

[5:09:53] Our children are given

[5:09:54] conflicting messages when they

[5:09:57] tell them not to use it at

[5:09:58] addictive substances that are

[5:10:02] now being promoted throughout

[5:10:03] our neighborhoods.

[5:10:04] A study published in

[5:10:07] the Journal of American Academy

[5:10:08] of Children and Adolescents

[5:10:08] Psychiatry found that states

[5:10:12] that permit marijuana was

[5:10:13] associated with increase in

[5:10:17] past months marijuana use among

[5:10:17] youth ages 12 to 17.

[5:10:22] We need to maximize prevention

[5:10:22] effectiveness.

[5:10:23] This lack of prevention

[5:10:27] education has serious

[5:10:27] implications for the health

[5:10:28] equity of our communities

[5:10:32] especially with our young

[5:10:32] people.

[5:10:33] Thank you for letting me speak.

[5:10:34] Thank you.

[5:10:38] Next is Blair Beckman.

[5:10:38] If you can please unmute.

[5:10:39] After Blair it's Hector and

[5:10:42] then Tyler and 7499.

[5:10:43] Blair please proceed.

[5:10:43] All right.

[5:10:44] Thank you.

[5:10:47] Blair Beckman.

[5:10:47] Thankfully San Diego City

[5:10:48] government is not as

[5:10:49] competitive and demanding of

[5:10:52] new technology use of say

[5:10:53] the San Francisco Bay Area and

[5:10:53] Silicon Valley.

[5:10:57] A reminder that before Stanford

[5:10:58] ,Palo Alto and Menlo Park,

[5:10:59] Silicon Valley was a land of

[5:11:01] the lonely coasts and no one

[5:11:01] nation's.

[5:11:02] And this fall election time I

[5:11:02] hope San Diego can be having

[5:11:06] more regular community

[5:11:06] conversations about our public

[5:11:07] safety future.

[5:11:11] Along with the crime, most

[5:11:11] people simply fear our

[5:11:12] technology future more open,

[5:11:16] accountable responsible tech

[5:11:17] policies is simply meant to

[5:11:17] help alleviate these fears of

[5:11:21] our technology future.

[5:11:22] And that good tech policy

[5:11:22] practices simply can create a

[5:11:26] more efficient use of tech or

[5:11:26] reduction of tech need and

[5:11:27] yearly budget savings.

[5:11:30] And all of this can continue to

[5:11:31] maintain responsible tech use

[5:11:31] and good public safety

[5:11:35] practices to also address

[5:11:36] There's a genuine concern and

[5:11:36] fear of technology and its

[5:11:37] current leaders.

[5:11:40] Many people in San Diego and

[5:11:41] across the country are speaking

[5:11:41] this time that we should not

[5:11:42] have to feel overly pressured

[5:11:45] in the placement of tech in our

[5:11:46] local San Diego neighborhoods.

[5:11:47] And do we even need technology

[5:11:47] placement?

[5:11:50] And can we continue to perform

[5:11:51] tasks without the use of

[5:11:51] technology?

[5:11:54] I hope all of these ideas and

[5:11:55] concepts along with community

[5:11:56] healing strategies can be more

[5:11:59] regularly acknowledged by our

[5:11:59] community, our elected

[5:12:00] officials and San Diego city

[5:12:01] government and how we can more

[5:12:04] clearly talk about the future

[5:12:05] of our San Diego neighborhood

[5:12:05] public safety.

[5:12:06] In the fall election

[5:12:09] conversations of 2026 as you

[5:12:09] simply can be the ways to

[5:12:13] develop as a more folk

[5:12:13] community.

[5:12:14] And being on the same page with

[5:12:17] future tech issues in 2027.

[5:12:17] To conclude as there currently

[5:12:18] seems to be a growing number of

[5:12:23] people around Father Joe's

[5:12:24] villages at 14th and Imperial

[5:12:27] Avenue it is maybe a bit

[5:12:27] alarming.

[5:12:28] The New Day Center simply needs

[5:12:31] to simply MAY be needed to

[5:12:32] return to service in the near

[5:12:32] future.

[5:12:36] It seems a bad idea to sell

[5:12:37] the Neal Good Day Center.

[5:12:38] I think we're making a bad

[5:12:38] decision all around there.

[5:12:42] I hope we really can be

[5:12:43] addressing it upcoming in

[5:12:44] the coming weeks and months.

[5:12:47] Thank you.

[5:12:47] >> Thank you.

[5:12:48] Next is Hector.

[5:12:51] If you can please unmute

[5:12:51] the five minute.

[5:12:52] I had already noticed the five

[5:12:55] minute timer did conclude there

[5:12:55] are eight speakers in

[5:12:56] the queue.

[5:12:56] No additional speakers will be

[5:12:57] taken.

[5:12:57] Hector, if you can please.

[5:13:00] Alright.

[5:13:01] Thanks for taking my call.

[5:13:02] On the all the city leases like

[5:13:05] in Mission Bay like six months

[5:13:06] ago when there 30% of them were

[5:13:06] way behind.

[5:13:09] Of all the revenues like

[5:13:10] the height of the catamaran is

[5:13:12] but all the different

[5:13:13] businesses 30% of them were

[5:13:14] either not paying the rent or

[5:13:18] back on the lease or why are we

[5:13:19] back once a week out?

[5:13:23] Let's collect the money day and

[5:13:23] get everyone's names.

[5:13:24] Then even the guys that owned

[5:13:28] the golf course up there

[5:13:28] Fairbanks it's a couple of

[5:13:29] guys.

[5:13:29] They have corporations that

[5:13:30] hide their stuff.

[5:13:32] Who knows the actual owner

[5:13:33] unless it's BlackRock or

[5:13:37] something But just go on.

[5:13:37] >> They're probably community

[5:13:38] leaders.

[5:13:38] They know they're getting a

[5:13:39] huge deal.

[5:13:42] We could I don't know if we

[5:13:43] have to shame them but they

[5:13:43] want to do best for San Diego.

[5:13:46] We could say Hey man, have

[5:13:47] those couple bathrooms down

[5:13:50] there in the in in the south

[5:13:51] south Park, you know, And we

[5:13:52] tell the kids about how come we

[5:13:56] have a Porta John and we don't

[5:13:56] get a bathroom.

[5:13:59] Because the city's not mine in

[5:14:00] the store.

[5:14:01] It's not because we're poor and

[5:14:05] we're Mexicans or we're this or

[5:14:06] that or it's the city's not

[5:14:06] mine in the store.

[5:14:10] So you got to use the porta.

[5:14:11] These other guys are live in

[5:14:14] live large and they have great

[5:14:15] bathrooms and tennis courts and

[5:14:19] they're paying like one tenth

[5:14:20] of what it's worth I think at

[5:14:23] least at least like one maybe

[5:14:23] one one out of eight.

[5:14:28] What it's really worth And even

[5:14:28] the owner, the Padres he might

[5:14:31] pay us 5000 a year 5 million a

[5:14:32] year to rent it from us and let

[5:14:37] him do whatever he wants.

[5:14:38] He can have his friends up

[5:14:38] there as buddies.

[5:14:39] That's a write up on his

[5:14:41] business.

[5:14:42] He could He can run it, do

[5:14:42] the grass.

[5:14:46] He pays five bucks, 5 million a

[5:14:46] year to rent it.

[5:14:47] Just let him take care of

[5:14:51] everything else.

[5:14:52] I was wonder who pays the taxes

[5:14:52] on the property.

[5:14:57] Are we paying the tax property

[5:14:57] tax or is the owner paying

[5:14:58] the property tax?

[5:15:01] The plus is a fortune too.

[5:15:02] >> So anyway, thank you.

[5:15:06] Next to Tyler if you can please

[5:15:09] on mute after Tyler is seven

[5:15:09] for 99.

[5:15:10] >> Hi I live in Park village

[5:15:14] right and skeeters came in

[5:15:14] the entirety of my backyard is

[5:15:18] up against a city owned steep

[5:15:19] Now that we've had two

[5:15:20] wildfires in the canyon this

[5:15:21] summer I am once again pleading

[5:15:23] for help with a fire and soil

[5:15:24] erosion hazard that my neighbor

[5:15:24] has intentionally created.

[5:15:29] If you look at the satellite

[5:15:30] view of 845 record you'll have

[5:15:31] some context for what I'm

[5:15:31] talking about.

[5:15:33] My neighbor has repeatedly

[5:15:33] cleared the city of land

[5:15:35] without permission creating a

[5:15:37] soil erosion risk on city

[5:15:38] property in advance of what's

[5:15:41] expected to be one of

[5:15:44] the wettest winters in years.

[5:15:48] This neighbor has also dumped

[5:15:52] all the trimmings and dead

[5:15:58] branches right there in

[5:16:05] the canyon creating a fire

[5:16:14] hazard for our entire

[5:16:25] neighborhood.

[5:16:37] These neighbors have been

[5:16:50] treating the canyon which they

[5:17:04] do not own as their own

[5:17:16] personal trash dump.

[5:17:29] For years I've asked this

[5:17:40] neighbor and their contractor

[5:17:53] to stop and clean up this

[5:18:05] hazard multiple times over

[5:18:16] the years.

[5:18:27] This behavior is not only

[5:18:37] selfish and reckless it is

[5:18:47] illegal for San Diego Municipal

[5:18:58] Code sections 142 143 and

[5:19:08] the Incorporated Landscape

[5:19:20] regulations.

[5:19:32] They continue to do this

[5:19:45] because there are no

[5:19:57] repercussions over the multiple

[5:20:09] years this has been happening

[5:20:22] that contacted these residents

[5:20:36] the fire department multiple

[5:20:51] times the brush management

[5:21:03] department get it done and

[5:21:14] Councilmember Yvonne Gilbert's

[5:21:24] office multiple times.

[5:21:37] This is not a private dispute

[5:21:46] between neighbors.

[5:21:56] This is a reckless individual

[5:22:06] creating unnecessary risk for

[5:22:16] the city and its entire

[5:22:27] neighborhood which is clearly

[5:22:36] in violation of established

[5:22:47] law.

[5:22:57] This hillside needs to be

[5:23:06] revegetated.

[5:23:15] The fire hazard cleared and

[5:23:24] the individual stopped from

[5:23:33] damaging this property every

[5:23:42] year.

[5:23:52] I'm begging for your help And

[5:24:01] if you've seen what is

[5:24:10] happening with homeowners

[5:24:19] insurance lately, I trust you

[5:24:26] understand that I frankly can't

[5:24:32] afford to drop this issue.

[5:24:37] >> Thank you for your time.

[5:24:41] Thank you.

[5:24:44] 7499.

[5:24:48] If you can please unmute.

[5:24:51] I know you do have some a

[5:24:54] presentation.

[5:24:57] 749 I have asked you to unmute

[5:25:00] star six or you go please

[5:25:02] please play my video.

[5:25:05] >> Thank you.

[5:25:08] >> Bug does this get here?

[5:25:10] I'm going to read from several

[5:25:13] letters written to Joe LaCava

[5:25:16] regarding the Torrey Pines

[5:25:18] letter.

[5:25:21] I'll start with this 2021

[5:25:23] letter written from the Hawaii

[5:25:25] Town Council.

[5:25:27] Quote On APRIL eight, 2021

[5:25:30] the committee reported its

[5:25:32] findings to lgc which

[5:25:35] unanimously supported that

[5:25:38] the city of San Diego

[5:25:41] reconvened the Torrey Pines

[5:25:43] Advisory Board.

[5:25:45] We are requesting that the city

[5:25:48] of San Diego consider whether

[5:25:50] the solo pilot suppliers should

[5:25:52] have to pay annual membership

[5:25:54] fees or cost of insurance to

[5:25:56] fly the bike or end quote.

[5:25:58] Next letter from Ohio Issuers

[5:26:01] Association on NOVEMBER 13th,

[5:26:02] 2025.

[5:26:04] Quote The assured

[5:26:06] The association respectfully

[5:26:08] submit this letter in support

[5:26:10] of establishing the title Park

[5:26:11] Advisory Board at all and

[5:26:13] overseeing operations at

[5:26:14] the Torrey Pines Airport.

[5:26:15] Our association believes this

[5:26:16] matter is vital to the safety

[5:26:18] of park users, visitors and

[5:26:19] the surrounding community.

[5:26:20] We encourage the City of San

[5:26:21] Diego to carefully evaluate

[5:26:23] whether solo flier pilots

[5:26:24] should be required to pay

[5:26:25] annual membership fees and or

[5:26:27] maintain insurance coverage to

[5:26:28] fly the glider for end quote.

[5:26:30] Next letters from

[5:26:31] the University Community

[5:26:33] Planning Group.

[5:26:34] On MARCH 10th, 2026, the cpg

[5:26:35] passed the following resolution

[5:26:36] request for Pine City Park has

[5:26:38] unique and replaceable natural

[5:26:39] resources.

[5:26:41] And.

[5:26:42] Whereas, citizen input over

[5:26:44] these resources is both

[5:26:45] appropriate and timely.

[5:26:46] University Community Planning

[5:26:47] Group recommends that the city

[5:26:48] establish a 29 City Park

[5:26:50] Advisory Board under Charter

[5:26:51] Section 43 to advise the city

[5:26:53] on planning maintenance and

[5:26:54] operation of Torrey Pines City

[5:26:56] Park.

[5:26:57] And finally this is a second

[5:26:58] letter from the town council

[5:26:59] AUGUST 13th, 2026 while you

[5:27:00] were on vacation.

[5:27:02] Quote The town council

[5:27:03] respectfully submit this letter

[5:27:04] in support of reactivating

[5:27:05] the 40 Pine City Park Advisory

[5:27:05] Board, our city charter section

[5:27:07] 43 and its essential role in

[5:27:07] providing oversight of

[5:27:08] operations of Torrey Pines by a

[5:27:09] fourth Pine City Park Advisory

[5:27:10] Board should be tasked with

[5:27:11] advising the city on matters of

[5:27:11] safety and fair access to

[5:27:12] the Torrey Pines City Park.

[5:27:13] Matters of fair access should

[5:27:14] include a review whether pilots

[5:27:15] should be required to maintain

[5:27:16] annual membership fees and or

[5:27:16] individual insurance coverage

[5:27:17] as a condition of flying

[5:27:18] the glider for end quote.

[5:27:19] Joe LaCava.

[5:27:20] Why are you ignoring all of

[5:27:20] these important local

[5:27:21] organizations?

[5:27:22] >> Your time has concluded.

[5:27:23] We will bring that down.

[5:27:24] Next is Natalie Roski If you

[5:27:24] can please unmute.

[5:27:25] Natalie Rushing Academy before

[5:27:26] you there you are here.

[5:27:26] Natalie Freshman So I didn't

[5:27:27] get a chance to speak yesterday

[5:27:28] because my coaches I'm just so

[5:27:29] beside myself.

[5:27:29] I was ready for my coach.

[5:27:30] I went to a town hall where

[5:27:31] Sara Jacobs spoke about how

[5:27:32] easy it was.

[5:27:32] >> There's a real disconnect on

[5:27:33] what is what I was asked to

[5:27:34] leave what I was going to be

[5:27:34] asked to leave and I ended up

[5:27:35] exiting myself and I'm not a

[5:27:36] real person and I don't yell

[5:27:37] and I don't say disrespectful

[5:27:37] things or I don't you know, I'm

[5:27:38] one of four children who takes

[5:27:39] what's happening seriously.

[5:27:40] There's a real disconnect If

[5:27:40] extremely overwhelming to watch

[5:27:41] And you would think I'm telling

[5:27:42] you people that oversee what is

[5:27:42] happening in city or country.

[5:27:43] It's mind boggling.

[5:27:44] She sat there If there's video

[5:27:45] this video will be aired And

[5:27:45] there was giggling There was

[5:27:46] her tone changed on the whole

[5:27:47] Trump administration.

[5:27:47] So I mean that right there was

[5:27:48] an issue for me because at

[5:27:49] first it seemed like to

[5:27:50] the people and I'm like I don't

[5:27:50] even know what that means but

[5:27:51] at one point she was one way

[5:27:52] and then at another point she

[5:27:52] was another way.

[5:27:53] She talked about it being like

[5:27:53] high school.

[5:27:54] I mean it was cringe school and

[5:27:55] everything She said was word

[5:27:56] salad.

[5:27:56] What is happening?

[5:27:57] Gosh, I wish I had more to

[5:27:58] speak but this is real life

[5:27:58] happening to me in real time in

[5:27:59] my children.

[5:28:00] Everybody's body was covered

[5:28:01] except for the 350 some odd

[5:28:01] that are in the city.

[5:28:02] L.A. Your time has concluded.

[5:28:03] Terrance Kelly If you can

[5:28:03] please email.

[5:28:04] Good afternoon City council

[5:28:05] members and welcome back from

[5:28:05] your legislative break.

[5:28:06] My name is Terrence Gilliam, a

[5:28:07] parent of public health

[5:28:07] educator and a planning group

[5:28:08] attendee.

[5:28:08] I'm a parent of three young

[5:28:09] adult sons.

[5:28:10] So this article from

[5:28:10] yesterday's City News brought

[5:28:11] me great grief.

[5:28:11] It was entitled and I quote two

[5:28:12] Sentenced to first degree

[5:28:13] Murder and Shooting Death of

[5:28:13] Cannabis delivery driver Andre

[5:28:14] Domingues in Oak Park

[5:28:14] neighborhood which is in

[5:28:15] District four.

[5:28:15] Brian and Kevin were 16 and 18

[5:28:16] at the time as the article

[5:28:17] describes that they planned to

[5:28:17] place an order with a delivery

[5:28:18] service and then rob its

[5:28:18] driver.

[5:28:19] There are so many steps along

[5:28:19] the way that could have been

[5:28:20] produced could produce a

[5:28:20] different outcome for these

[5:28:21] young men.

[5:28:21] What messages are we sending

[5:28:22] that Rob being a delivery man

[5:28:22] of his part was okay or worth

[5:28:24] their lives?

[5:28:24] And how come a 16 year old and

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